Ogre's Politics & Views
December 19, 2006
New Advertiser
Have you seen my new advertiser over there at the top of the left sidebar? If you haven't why not take a quick peek? I know you're always looking around for extra blogs to read and check out. You never know when you'll find one you really like and start reading it every day, do you?
This week it's
DC Mr Anthrope. That thing you see in the thumbnail picture over there is a snake wrapped around an apple. I'll let you decide what meaning that has for you. In the meantime, head on over and see what he's got in store for you. Some interesting stuff and some excellent writing to boot!
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Freedom in your Lifetime
Can you even imagine that idea? Wherever you live in the entire world, how free do you really believe you are? Seriously. How much freedom do you really, honestly have? And are you working now to try and change that? Perhaps you've sent money to pro-freedom candidates. Perhaps you've wanted to support Libertarian candidates, but were afraid they wouldn't win. Maybe you're working now to make sure that in 2008 your favorite freedom people will win your local elections. And how's that working out for you?
In most places (NC not included), there's some hope for freedom. You know that if you keep working where you are, little by little you may be able to advance freedom. But how many really believe that you're going to succeed in the next 2, 5, or even 20 years? Take a look at your local elected officials and state legislature. How long is it going to take to change a majority of them to pro-freedom? Is that in your lifetime?
Instead, how would you like to have freedom right now. More freedom than you've ever had before. And how would you like to have hundreds, even thousands, of people living near you that all strongly support freedom, too? Can you imagine a few hundred people working together to increase freedom and reduce government? And right now, in your lifetime?
That's the goal of the
Free State Project. Over 400 people have already moved and are already having a HUGE effect on politics. And that's just 400 people. Imagine what a few more hundred would do. And imagine how free you can be when thousands gather, all in the name of freedom. It is possible, and it is possible
right now.
They are still gathering signatures on
a petition, hoping to get 1,000 people committed right now to move for freedom. Here's what it says:
I will move to New Hampshire by 12/31/2008 where I will work to bring about a society in which government’s maximum role is protecting life, liberty, and property but only if 999 other liberty minded individuals will too.
Just imagine 999 others moving with you for freedom. With just 400 people scattered across the state, freedom is already advancing. Just imagine what will happen when that number is tripled, then multiplied by 10.
Consider it a moment, if you will. And if you're thinking that New Hampshire is not for you because you don't like it, three points to further consider:
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101 Reasons to Move to NH.
2. What sacrifices are truly worth having actual freedom in your lifetime.
3. That's where freedom really is advancing. If you want freedom, that's where you need to go.
If you would consider it, please see the Free State Project site for more information and do consider signing the
First 1000 pledge -- we're trying to get 1,000 people to agree to move by the end of the year (no, you don't have to move in the next two weeks, just agree that you will make every possible attempt to move in 200

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The only way New Hampshire will ever be a free state is to burn it down and start over without one of the current residents present. One rotten apple left in the basket will rot the next bushel. Insanity (aka BDS) in uncurable and the state is ate up with it.
Posted by: Scrapiron at December 19, 2006 08:28 PM (0Co69)
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We still have majority rule here (despite the Constitional provisions against it). If enough people who want freedom move to one place (NH), they CAN vote in freedom without total destruction. Sure, there will be opposition, but such is the price of freedom.
Posted by: Ogre at December 19, 2006 08:33 PM (oifEm)
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Ogre writes more about NH than I do and I live here. WE NEED people to come up here who cherish true freedom- we've been invaded by liberals from MA who got sick of paying income taxes and sales taxes..so they're still liberal as heck and want that nanny state thing.
SO MOVE ON UP HERE. It's not a bad place to live. I wouldn't live anywhere else (except Maine)...
Posted by: Raven at December 19, 2006 11:27 PM (E4QRU)
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I really believe we can have freedom in our lifetime and this IS the way.
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Political Idea
So, I've got an idea for a slight change to the political system in America.
Anyone -- an individual, corporation, non-profit group, or employee of any of the above; if they receive direct cash or direct benefits from the government, including cash, vouchers, grants, tax incentives, etc; automatically loses the right to vote. After all, anyone who receives anything directly from government has a vested interest in taking more, so they should not be able to vote.
Do you think anyone would be left in the country that would be eligible to vote?
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Good idea. But there's only one problem.
Those who possess the greatest power to address a societal problem are almost always the same group of people who have the most to lose by actually addressing the problem. Government beneficiaries are an important voting block.
This rule can be applied to almost any problem that lasts any significant length of time. Problems that don't adhere to this rule tend to be solved very quickly.
Posted by: Weapon of Mass Disturbance at December 19, 2006 02:49 PM (j4p/t)
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Well, they're an important voting block if you believe government should solve problems. I don't.
Posted by: Ogre at December 19, 2006 03:08 PM (oifEm)
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There are few if any that don't fall into this category. I get a deduction cause I've got a kid or school loans - does that count?
Posted by: oddybobo at December 19, 2006 03:24 PM (mZfwW)
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In my plan, that would be your option (I like freedom). If you choose to take the deduction, you give up your vote. If you want to vote, don't take the deduction.
And don't worry, if this were the case, taxes would drop like a rock because the scummy politicians couldn't buy ANY votes with taxpayer cash!
Posted by: Ogre at December 19, 2006 03:28 PM (oifEm)
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I have been receiving grants for education, as well as (of course) my tax refund every year, so does that count?
Posted by: Smokey at December 19, 2006 04:50 PM (xBtls)
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Tax refund doesn't count, as that's an overpayment on your part, not a government expenditure.
The education grant? Yup, you're out.
Posted by: Ogre at December 19, 2006 04:55 PM (oifEm)
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The school loan thing would depend on the loan really. Because I received student "loans" during school but I had to pay them back, and yes I did pay them back 100% plus interest.
But I would be excluded because I receive unemployment payments ... but does it really count if you are receiving payments from something you paid into all your life?
Posted by: Quality Weenie at December 19, 2006 05:38 PM (BksWB)
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Loans are different. They would not cause you to lost your voting rights. Grants would. Unemployment payments? If that system were entirely privatized so that the government wasn't getting cash from it, that would be okay. As it stands, the government pays out that cash, so you'd have a very, very strong incentive to vote for politicians who could buy your vote with more cash, so I'd have to say no on that one.
(Hey, it's my dream!)

Posted by: Ogre at December 19, 2006 06:07 PM (oifEm)
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Ya, that $322 dollars I am getting a week on unemployment is going to keep me voting for the jackasses that are "giving" me that huge amount of money ... man I may never go back to work
Posted by: Quality Weenie at December 19, 2006 09:37 PM (BksWB)
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Luxury.
We used to have to get out of the lake at six o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of 'ot gravel, work twenty hour day at mill for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would thrash us to sleep with a broken bottle, if we were lucky!
Posted by: Ogre at December 19, 2006 10:02 PM (3KZT9)
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BWAHAHAH!! I like your idea Ogre.
Posted by: Raven at December 19, 2006 11:30 PM (E4QRU)
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Heck, I'd settle for non-property owners not getting a vote, but I still like this idea better. Anyone oppose it?
Posted by: Ogre at December 20, 2006 12:11 AM (/kUV8)
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In Robert Heinlein's book: Starship Troopers (not the horrible movie), only veterans could vote or serve in public office.
What do you think of that idea?
Posted by: Weapon of Mass Disturbance at December 20, 2006 02:45 PM (0eOeQ)
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There's certainly some merit in that option, too. Maybe veterans who aren't on government aid. Damn, if that were the case, I think about 100 people would get to elect the next president -- but I bet it would be a damn good choice!!!
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City of Charlotte Lies Again
For some reason, I'm just not surprised. Are you? It is a government agency, and it's ruled by Democrats, so I guess we should be surprised if they actually told the truth. This time, they're preparing their whines complaints Christmas List "legislative requests" for the General Assembly. Are you ready?
They want
extra taxes or fees to raise money for road projects, its highest priority
That's an outright lie. Complete and total, blatant lie. Here, let's try and experiment. What is your personal highest priority when it comes to spending money? Think about it a minute, then answer.
Now, is that what you spend the most money on? Then it's simply NOT your highest priority. For most of us, the single largest expense for us is our home. That's what most important to us, so we spend the most money on it. And if you're short on cash, do you skip the house payment or going out?
So, what is the city spending money on? Arenas, stadiums, parks, baseball stadiums, light rail, buses, welfare, and free health care. They seriously have absolutely ZERO interest in roads. They honestly DISLIKE roads! Part of their grand plan is to allow the roads to deteriorate so that you will not use them -- instead you will submit to their soviet-style planning and live in high rises on their grand light rail.
Liars, the lot of them.
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December 18, 2006
People of NC: Hold Your Wallet
Well, that is, if you actually work. If you do not work, rejoice! If you are a slug who lives off the backs of others (you take government cash payouts), celebrate your horribleness. Enjoy being lazy and know that you will be rewarded soon! You see, the government of North Carolina is preparing to give away even MORE cash to lazy, worthless, non-working people!
Yes, in this year when all predictions and estimates show that the state will have nowhere near enough money the next year due to vast overspending by Democrats, they are really going to give away even MORE money! And where will they get it? The same place Democrats ALWAYS get money to give away and spend: by stealing it from those who actually work and produce (unlike them).
So get ready, North Carolina. There will be an income tax increase, many property tax increases, and sales tax increases. But I guess you get what you vote for, don't you? Keep on voting Democrat if you don't like keeping the money you earn.
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December 16, 2006
Doctors need government watching
So says the Charlotte Observer. Their latest hit piece demands, wait for it, more money to be spent by government. It's pretty much their standard editorial. I think they have a Word template that looks something like this:
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_____________________ (insert scary thing here) is getting worse! More and more participants in this activity might possible get hurt. In fact, if you even so much as talk to these people, you might get hurt or even killed. Currently, the government is (not/lightly/somewhat) regulating this industry. But (hundreds/thousands/billions) of people could be saved from potential injury and death if there were more regulation. The ___________ (make up new, cool sounding name) commission, formed by Democrats, has suggested that there should be more oversight and regulation for safety.
(Note: leave out all references to freedom of choice and all references to any costs associated with enormous government monitoring of things which free people should be allowed to do).
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And it doesn't even have to make sense to make it into print. This complaint is that doctors aren't regulated and therefore people shouldn't trust them. I guess the Observer missed the
latest survey on who they trust with ethics and honesty the most -- for Doctors, 69% of people thought they were very highly trusted. Journalists? Only 26% thought they were highly ethical.
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A better solution would be to stop allowing hospitals to treat new doctors as a source of cheap labor. Doctors often begin their careers working absurdly long hours for very little money. This creates a situation where the least experienced doctors are required to make complex medical decisions on very little sleep. This is an enormous source of malpractice suits.
Posted by: Weapon of Mass Disturbance at December 17, 2006 03:42 PM (j4p/t)
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Instead, I'd like to see freedom. Let the doctors and the hospitals do as they like. If the doctors don't want to work long hours, let them find a hospital that offers them that. But that would require freedom and LESS government, so that's not going to happen, is it?
Posted by: Ogre at December 17, 2006 05:40 PM (eznLF)
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Ever think they'll insert abortion for a category? Nevermind.
Posted by: AliV at December 17, 2006 07:55 PM (hDlfX)
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I won't be surprised when Democrat government agents start ordering doctors to perform abortions -- like they have in England.
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December 15, 2006
Monday Jokes on Friday
Every have one of those weeks where you're behind a day? All week long, I thought it was one day later than it actually was. That makes today extra-bad because my body thinks it's Saturday and yet I'm at work. So here's some humor to hopefully lighten your way into the weekend.
Tech support: What kind of computer do you have?
Blonde: A white one...
Tech support: Click on the 'my computer' icon on to the left of the screen.
Blonde: Your left or my left?
Tech support: Good day. How may I help you?
Blonde: Hi, good afternoon, this is Martha, I can't print. Every time I try, it says 'Can't find printer'. I've even lifted the printer and placed it in front of the monitor, but the computer still says he can't find it..
Blonde: I have problems printing in red...
Tech support: Do you have a color printer?
Blonde: Aaaah....................thank you.
Tech support: What's on your monitor now, ma'am?
Blonde: A teddy bear my boyfriend bought for me at the 7-11.
Tech support: How may I help you?
Blonde: I'm writing my first e-mail.
Tech support: OK, and what seems to be the problem?
Blonde: Well, I have the letter 'a' in the address, but how do I get the circle around it?
Tech support: Your password is the small letter "a" as in apple, a capital letter V as n Victor, the number 7.
Blonde: Is that 7 in capital letters?
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I work in tech support. One day I got a call from this guy who was trying to install Quicken. He said that he had put the floppy in the disc drive and nothing happened. This was in the days when Quicken was on floppy and you had 7 disc's to load. He had jammed all 7 in one after the other on top of each other and had ruined his floppy drive.
Posted by: Skyler_the_Weird at December 16, 2006 04:54 AM (KkQmZ)
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Hey, I thought they were all supposed to go in at one time!

Posted by: Ogre at December 16, 2006 03:50 PM (eznLF)
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i work for a cable isp, we get them all the time... my favorite one is "sir, what lights are flashing on the front of your modem?"... "well the first, the third and the last one".... like we can tell which side their modem is sitting on...
also, why is it that every 3rd caller has their smoke alarm beeping every 30 seconds??? is there a shortage of 9v batteries?
Posted by: chris at December 16, 2006 10:55 PM (rBjHa)
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"The green light is flashing."
And my smoke alarm used to beep -- until I ripped the damn thing out of the ceiling because it wouldn't shut up. No it's very quiet.
Posted by: Ogre at December 16, 2006 11:05 PM (eznLF)
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ogre, ive been reading this page a long time, i just moved to the triad, and if you ever make it up to this area, hit me up, ill buy ya a beer
Posted by: chris at December 17, 2006 05:07 PM (rBjHa)
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Thank you very much! And you're in the Triad? I'm not sure that you'll be able to afford a beer after you start paying taxes there, but thanks very much for the offer. If I'm ever headed that way, I'll drop you a line!
Posted by: Ogre at December 17, 2006 05:41 PM (eznLF)
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yeah near high point, the taxes aren't all that bad, i mean i get about $90 per check taken out for state taxes, but what gets me is the asinine gas taxes (a full 14 cents above SC) and the liquor laws... i mean who ever heard of a state run liquor industry... WTF is that nonsense... but I'm loving the weather, i hear all my Florida friends complaining that its cold when its 60 down there and i just laugh at em
Posted by: chris at December 17, 2006 05:58 PM (rBjHa)
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And strangely enough, that is the #1 reason people will put up with this abusive government in NC: the weather! The state runs the liquor industry for one reason -- the same reason they do everything they do in this state: for cash to spend.
Posted by: Ogre at December 17, 2006 06:32 PM (eznLF)
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well coming from a state where tourism tax was the main income, this is definitely a little different. one thing i haven't figured out is that i get hit with different % sales taxes on different items... its like a 1st grader laid out the tax system
Posted by: chris at December 17, 2006 09:40 PM (rBjHa)
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Don't try and figure it out -- it's going to change this year when the Democrats raise taxes by another billion. Current word is that sales taxes will rise by 1/2% to 7.5 and 8 percent, depending on where you live.
Posted by: Ogre at December 17, 2006 09:54 PM (eznLF)
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I used to do level 1 support in college part time. My favorite is:
User: "when I press the power key nothing happens. [Sound of clicking button] See!"
Me: "Ma'am, have you checked the power cord?"
User: "Ohhhhhh, yeah... the cord was unplugged"
Posted by: michele at December 18, 2006 02:40 PM (etwyR)
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Ah yes, the true classic. It's absolutely amazing how many people never check the power cords!
Posted by: Ogre at December 18, 2006 02:55 PM (oifEm)
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Hey, I'm a natural blonde, and I'm offended. Okay, not offended. Actually my kids come home with the best dumb blonde jokes for me.
Posted by: Stacy at December 21, 2006 09:17 PM (92p8H)
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It's okay, if you're offended you get to burn stuff. That's the rules these days, apparently.
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Bill of Rights Day
Happy Bill of Rights Day! Thanks to a reminder from Always on Watch, I remembered! Today is a day set aside by the government to remember the Bill of Rights. For more details, check out AOW's link above -- there's also a link there to area celebrations, so check that out.
Unfortunately, I think Bill of Rights day has become more of an day to honor something that has passed, rather than celebrating what we have. Indeed, I'm not saying that this country isn't the freest in the world, just that we lose more and more freedoms every day and very, very few people seem to care.
Another thing that isn't taught any more in government schools -- the government doesn't GRANT rights. They're not capable of it. Instead, the Bill of Rights was intended as a specific list of rights that the government was to never, ever, trample upon. However, today, I think every single one of the original bill of rights has been violated by our government, including all three branches in cooperation.
If you do truly love the Bill of Rights, there is but one possible solution today that will allow YOU to live in a place of freedom. There is a very small, but growing, group of people who honestly love freedom. They want to claim a small area of the country and make it as the founders intended. They don't want socialism or communism as today's governments want. They want open, unrestrained freedom. They want government to do as it should in a free society: as little as possible. Who are they?
They are
The Free State Project. And they need you, if you want real freedom, to join them. And if you're really, really serious about freedom, join them in the
First 1000 pledge -- trying to find simply 1,000 people who will agree to move and work for freedom
in our lifetime -- but only if 999 others will join them.
Celebrate the Bill of Rights -- by restoring those rights to the people where they belong.
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The Bill of Rights isn't dead. It's just dying a slow death because the 'rights' have been spread to criminals that slip across the border, and the enemy that will eventually kill millions of Americans.
Liberalism will be the death of the country, and the death will include the same liberals that will not protect America and American citizens.
A United States Congressman called Miami, Fl a third world country. What do the people of Miami do? They prove him 100% correct. I now look at Miami as a worse place for freedom of speach than Iran, Syria and Russia and will never visit the state of Fl again. Wall the state off and drop a nuke inside the wall. I won't miss the state at all.
Thank the liberals (aka democrats) for the destruction of freedom in America.
Posted by: Scrapiron at December 15, 2006 04:42 PM (Eodj2)
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You speak as if this destruction will happen in the future. I am afraid that it is not the case -- I think the destruction has already happened and that freedom and the Bill of Rights are already gone today. They only apply to those whom the government favors now, instead of all free citizens.
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Well, since the vast majority of Americans neither understand exactly what the Bill of Rights says and/or the purpose behind the Amendments, particularly the first 10, I would have to agree with you, Ogre.
And the same people I described pick and choose what they like, and modify them.
Sad, when you think about it.
Posted by: William Teach at December 15, 2006 10:40 PM (IRsCk)
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The only hope is to start over.
Posted by: Ogre at December 15, 2006 10:41 PM (eznLF)
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I'm just glad to see that the FSP is still growing, slowly but surely.
Posted by: Harvey at December 16, 2006 06:37 AM (L7a63)
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Very slowly. We need a few hundred more to sign up in the next couple weeks to really reach a HUGE milestone and completely renew my faith in freedom!
Posted by: Ogre at December 16, 2006 03:47 PM (eznLF)
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Why Freedom is Lost Today
Overheard this morning:
I was late today because of all the fog. It's because we don't have lights. We should have lights on all our highways. Why don't they build lights when they build all these roads.
And this is in an area where we might get 3-5 days in an entire year with enough fog to actually affect visibility -- and 100 days with enough rain to make streetlights reflect on the blacktop and make visibility worse.
But yet there are way too many people who honestly believe "They" -- the government, via massive, heavy taxes, should do everything for everyone. That just stinks.
Oh, how I yearn for freedom and responsibility.
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Just watch Osama Hussien Obama's first presidential campaign AD and you'll see a big problem. In one ad he proposes spending the entire GNP of the country on entirely give away programs, not just the taxes collected by the feds. The bad thing about the ad is that the mental retards (aka democrats) of the country will believe he can do it and stand around with their hands out for a handout.
Posted by: Scrapiron at December 15, 2006 04:46 PM (Eodj2)
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And they will think he is wonderful for stealing money from one person and giving it to them.
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Who does Government Love?
It's Friday, so I thought I'd have some funnies. Then I read the cartoon and the text that follows (that I received in email from VW Bug and was disappointed at the true content. Ah well, the truth is painful sometimes:

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5 million of our older Americans have not signed up yet for their
Medicare, Part D, drug plan------they are old and confused.
We are NOT going to grant them an extension.
However, 12 million illegal aliens are in our country and we are
going to allow them to stay, protest, procreate, receive support
monies, attend schools, avoid paying income taxes, have our
teachers take 300 hours of ESL(English as a Second Language)
training at our expense, etc.
WE MUST REALLY DISLIKE OUR OLD PEOPLE......
OR WE MUST REALLY LOVE TACOS!!!
Don't forget to pay your taxes......
12 million illegal aliens are depending on you!
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Ya know, I really love me my taco's!
Posted by: Quality Weenie at December 15, 2006 07:01 PM (BksWB)
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Taco, taco, taco!
(Just not from Taco Bell with lettuce...)
Posted by: Ogre at December 15, 2006 07:15 PM (oifEm)
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I like tacos.
LOL!!!
There is a sad truth to this though. Our elderly are treated far worse than illegals- who have their hands held at every corner. It sucks. It really does.
Posted by: Raven at December 19, 2006 12:17 AM (vFsNB)
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NC Seeks Billions to Give Away
The NC Legislature is already working on a $1 billion tax raise for 2007. Since the legislature is ruled by corrupt leftist Democrats, they will likely pass a tax increase of more than $1 billion next year. But they've just now discovered that they really need an additional $24 billion to cover "future health care expenses for retired state employees."
What another load of crap. WHY are there hundreds of thousands of state employees? Why do they get ANYTHING when they retire, much less full health benefits? Sorry, state employees, your jobs should NOT be better than the private sector. In a free country, the state would not EVER compete with the private sector. It's just wrong.
But no, North Carolina is run by Democrats. They have absolutely no problem taking more and more and more from anyone who works and give it to someone who does not. Oh, how I yearn for freedom.
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December 14, 2006
Snowman Mugging

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Damm, beat me too it! I actually had a post with that photo saved. LOL!
That ad thing threw me a bit

Posted by: William Teach at December 14, 2006 08:19 PM (doAuV)
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I guess you found the "Skip this Ad" link? It shouldn't show up very often. I have a hard time getting it to show up when I do testing...
Posted by: Ogre at December 14, 2006 08:46 PM (IuJ8j)
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new post and I didn't get that ad. The ad's not bad, just getting past it can be. ;-)
Posted by: vw bug at December 14, 2006 08:57 PM (ZbLU8)
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Cool. Someone please let me know if it gets too annoying, common, or too difficult -- I'll get rid of them. And they only show up on the permalink pages, so if you view the main page, they should never show up.
Posted by: Ogre at December 14, 2006 09:03 PM (IuJ8j)
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Yo Ogre!..I luv this toon..haha
thanks for the comment at my site hun!
Posted by: Angel at December 14, 2006 09:43 PM (IhCeX)
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Glad you liked it! Thanks for stopping along, everyone.
Posted by: Ogre at December 14, 2006 11:03 PM (IuJ8j)
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Dude, has anyone ever told you that you might benefit from electroshock therapy? Because I need to find another person to see if they tried it and what the result was. I just don't trust a "doctor" who wants to pass ELECTRIC CURRENT through my brain.....
Posted by: Smokey at December 15, 2006 09:40 AM (xBtls)
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I have a car battery and some wire, since you don't trust doctors...
Posted by: Ogre at December 15, 2006 12:27 PM (oifEm)
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Rabbit = ISG
Hair Dryer = ISG report
Snow Woman = Democrats
Snow Man = Bush
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Stop the ACLU
Crossposted from Stop The ACLU
Via the ACLU we find out the U.S. government is finally being proactive against the ACLU in protecting classified information from being leaked for our enemies to know.
The American Civil Liberties Union today announced that it has asked a federal judge to quash a grand jury subpoena demanding that it turn over to the FBI "any and all copies" of a December 2005 government document in its possession.
The ACLU called the subpoena, served on November 20 by the U.S. Attorney's office in New York, a transparent attempt to intimidate government critics and suppress informed criticism and reporting.
"The government's attempt to suppress information using the grand jury process is truly chilling and is unprecedented in law and in the ACLU's history," said ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero. "This subpoena serves no legitimate investigative purpose and tramples on fundamental First Amendment rights. We recognize this maneuver for what it is: a patent attempt to intimidate and impede the work of human rights advocates like the ACLU who seek to expose government wrongdoing."
The three-and-a-half page document, issued in December 2005, is marked "Secret" and apparently is classified. The ACLU received the document, unsolicited, on October 23, 2006.
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National Demcrats: SPEND MONEY!
Well it seems the Democrats are running around, touting their agenda for the next year. Not surprising to anyone who knows what Democrats stand for, one of their top items is to spend BILLIONS and BILLIONS "for the children." They want to give away tens of billions in free college money. After all, according to Democrats, everyone has a government-given RIGHT to a college degree.
You there, peon, keep working now because although they and their pals in the press seem to forget, in order for government to give away billions, they first have to take away from someone who actually worked for it. Yup, that's you and I. Get ready for the massive tax increases in 2007. The state of NC is likely to add a billion or so, the city of Charlotte is looking at a few hundred million, and the federal government is going to need at least $100 billion more.
Well, those of you who voted Democrat, this is what you get. Back to work, slave. The government needs more.
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I always like asking leftards why they do not send more money to the feds if they hate tax cuts so much.
Always greeted by crickets or deflections.
Posted by: William Teach at December 14, 2006 03:13 PM (doAuV)
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Because that wouldn't be fair! After all, it's the rich that need to pay more because they've won life's lottery.
Posted by: Ogre at December 14, 2006 03:16 PM (oifEm)
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Well I just got student loans and it's going to KILL me to pay them back BUT--- the education I'm going to get will give me the income to do so without KILLING me. LOL...I didn't apply for grants and all that. I want to do this the right way- the hard way- the old fashioned way. I'm going to pay back every penny.
Posted by: Raven at December 14, 2006 04:12 PM (qwC9w)
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I have an enormous pile of student loans. But all mine are loans, not grants and "free" money taken from the working people.
Posted by: Ogre at December 14, 2006 04:19 PM (oifEm)
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There are some scholarship monies available but to be honest- I didn't seek any of that because I would rather see it go to kids. I donate money to those funds -around my area these monies are derived from fund raisers and corp donations.
Posted by: Raven at December 15, 2006 12:13 AM (CXMqZ)
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Don't worry, the government will take their share before they give out the grants to "the poor."
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Bureaucrats want MORE Criminals
Yes, folks, the members of the North Carolina Child Fatality Task Force want to make more criminals. That seems to be their purpose. This task force is actually encouraging the NC Legislature to throw you in jail for 5 years if your child is in your car out a car seat -- even for a second.
Currently it is legal for a person in a motor vehicle to see to a child's needs and take them out of the car seat -- for example, in the back of a van if something falls underneath a child, you can pick the child up and then put them back. Under the new proposed laws, you will go to jail for at least 5 years if you do that.
What should the laws be? There should be zero laws forcing people to use child seats, period. They're stupid, anti-freedom laws. In fact, in all likelihood, these proposed laws won't be passed because it has the potential to reduce revenue to the state -- because that's the primary purpose of the child-seat laws to begin with.
What's really sad is that the primary discussion about this law will be the financial impact on the state -- rather than what government should care about: freedom.
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They get more and more ridiculous everyday. Sometimes I can't even believe what you posted, because it is so stupid!!! But I know if you posted it, it is true. Sad, but true.
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And it's not like I actually search out the weird and incredible! I just get updates and reports on the current activities of the legislature -- and it's almost always weird and incredible.
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December 13, 2006
Men & Women
ROMANCE MATHEMATICS
Smart man + smart woman = romance
Smart man + dumb woman = affair
Dumb man + smart woman = marriage
Dumb man + dumb woman = pregnancy
OFFICE ARITHMETIC
Smart boss + smart employee = profit
Smart boss + dumb employee = production
Dumb boss + smart employee = promotion
Dumb boss + dumb employee = overtime
SHOPPING MATH
A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.
A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.
GENERAL EQUATIONS & STATISTICS
A woman worries about the future until she gets a husband.
A man never worries about the future until he gets a wife.
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A
successful woman is one who can find such a man.
HAPPINESS
To be happy with a man, you must understand him a lot and love him a
little. To be happy with a woman, you must love her a lot and not try to
understand her at all.
LONGEVITY
Married men live longer than single men do, but married men are a lot
more willing to die.
PROPENSITY TO CHANGE
A woman marries a man expecting he will change, but he doesn't. A man
marries a woman expecting that she won't change, and she does.
DISCUSSION TECHNIQUE
A woman has the last word in any argument.
Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument.
(From
Raven).
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Posted by: Raven at December 14, 2006 04:09 PM (qwC9w)
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I will propogate this wisdom to the four corners of our flat earth.
Or something like that.
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Damn, I hate spelling errors.
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So shall you enter into the "dumb" category above? (I'm kidding, folks!)
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Banana Phone
Oh yes. When I get a new cell phone, I think I must absolutely have one of these. Strangely enough, I found it while searching for security items. Unfortunately, The Boss won't let me use the 120VAC power line to ensure no one steals my stuff again...
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I don't understand that. A wet carpet and 120 VAC will not only prevent a thief at the time, but prevent future thiefs. One touch, one casket, one hole in the ground for one deep fried thief. Works for me.
Posted by: Scrapiron at December 13, 2006 11:22 PM (YadGF)
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See, now that's exactly what I was proposing. But for some odd reason, they don't want me to do that. I don't understand management sometimes...
Posted by: Ogre at December 13, 2006 11:23 PM (IuJ8j)
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which begs the question to ask of someone using one of these, "is that a banana you're talking into or are you just happy to see me."
my bad........................
Posted by: Dave Drake at December 14, 2006 01:32 AM (S83Pv)
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The possibilities are endless! lol!
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i find that hollowpoints work much better than electricity, and a 12ga works even better, usually you don't even have to load it, you can just rack the slide and most people will stop doing what they were doing
Posted by: chris at December 16, 2006 11:03 PM (rBjHa)
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Yeah, I have that method of protecting my stuff -- but it doesn't work when I'm not physically present!
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Fair Taxes
Why our Political Leaders Should Embrace the FairTax Plan
by John DeJong of NotMeUSA.com
The Fair Tax Plan (HR.25/S.25) has been out for well over a year now and yet there are still many people who have never even heard of it. One would think that a plan as bold and beneficial as this would be sounded from one coast to the next. Yet that is not the case. As a point of fact there are many liberal political leaders who continually ridicule the Fair Tax Plan whenever it is mentioned. They’re acting under the misguided belief that this wonderful plan favors the “rich”. That is the farthest from the truth as one can come.
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That sounds fair to me. Instead of taking all our money and then pretending to give it back to the poor with social welfare programs, why can't we all just keep a larger share of our money? What about the flat tax?
Posted by: High-end designer jeans at December 14, 2006 01:16 PM (3Ep+x)
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In the minds of government, ANYTHING that keep money from the government isn't fair. Today, in the United States, the sole, overriding, and primary purpose of all governments is to obtain money from working people. It's really sad, but that IS their reason for existing today.
Posted by: Ogre at December 14, 2006 03:01 PM (oifEm)
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McCain Shows His Ignorance
Well, Senator McCain has decided to show how clueless he is when it comes to technology. He's authored a bill that will require sex offenders to register their email addresses, somehow actually believing that this will have some affect on something -- other than, of course, costing the government piles of cash. Apparently McCain doesn't realize that email addresses can be obtained and used at will, changing them as often as one wants.
Government, stay the hell out of things that you don't understand. And yes, that's pretty much everything. Morons, the lot of them.
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Whiny Criminals
Well it seems the news is that more illegal alien criminal invaders are whining that their parents are being taken away. The one holding this sign is 26 years old. She's complaining about the Swift and Co Processing plants that hired criminals who had broken immigration laws and committed fraud. So they whine that these criminals shouldn't be arrested because it's Christmas. Well, I have a sign for these people:

Michelle Malkin
correctly notes that nothing will be done to these criminals -- the employees or the employer.
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I think anyone that has their identity stolen should be allowed to shoot the thief with no penalty. Ruin my life and I'll surely ruin yours if I find out who you are. That's a promise, not a threat.
As the man in the old gangster movie said, killing the person who wronged you doen't hurt them. Find out who they love most in the world and kill them and let the idiot know why you did it. That will hurt them.
Sounds fair to me.
Posted by: Scrapiron at December 13, 2006 11:29 PM (YadGF)
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I'm with you. The punishment should fit the crime. Unfortunately, today's liberal justice system wants to feel sorry for the criminals more than the victims.
Posted by: Ogre at December 13, 2006 11:31 PM (IuJ8j)
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