Things have changed for kids, since you were one

Rural Constitution Day Parade, 2016

History and Old Books

If there's one thing that the new experts in education don't want, it's children grounded in and informed by history and old books. Does your local school have a Constitution Day parade? If we want kids to know about these important things, we may need to find a way other than school to help them learn. Harvard, in the news this week, has warned against old books, like hard cover reading, writing and arithmetic books, or even . . . the Bible! Quelle horreur!

That was 2020. Of course, the other implication of this artwork is that homeschoolers will be trapped away from play with other children by their prison-keeper parents who only care about "the basics". This does not reflect the reality of the home schooling world, where children tend to have more experience with a wide variety of people.

J.J. Sefton picked up an interesting piece in his Thursday Morning Report that could serve as the basis for an interesting activity for kids, especially teens who care about their rights. Okay, Bill of Rights Day was yesterday. Doesn't matter:

December 15th marks Bill of Rights Day, which commemorates the 232nd anniversary when the first ten amendments to the U.S. Constitution were ratified. December 15th should be a day all Americans reflect on the unique blessings the Bill of Rights safeguards - the freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, and being protected from undue searches and seizures, to name just a few.
But Bill of Rights Day also offers us the opportunity to reflect upon another unique aspect of our republic: the Preamble to the United States Constitution.
Originally penned by Gouverneur Morris, the Preamble states, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain this Constitution for the United States of America."
And although today we can find little to argue with in such beautiful - and familiar - language, at the time of its framing, and immediately after, the Preamble was the subject of much debate, all intimately tied to the deliberations that resulted in the Bill of Rights.

This language may not be familiar to most kids. Making it sound beautiful to them may also take some effort.

The ideas might also be more interesting to some kids than others. Do you find this to be true? Starting in-home education early may be a good idea, when possible:

Something I hear from parents constantly is that their daughters are embracing critical social justice ideology and their sons are rejecting it completely. I see the same dynamic in families I know personally. . .

This seems like a bad development to me, for several reasons. I kind of like the idea of young men and young women getting along with each other. How about you?

A stupid and provocative development in education right here - the last time this happened, it was a woman who was sworn in:

A Virginia school board member was sworn into office Wednesday on a stack of porn. Because this is 2024 America, where such things have become not only commonplace, but laudable.
His name is Karl Frisch, and he's the newest member of the Fairfax County School Board in Fairfax, Virginia. If that rings a bell, it might be because it's the same hard-left school board that got caught withholding National Merit Awards from students last year for "equity." Or it could be because they shucked out nearly half a million in taxpayer cash to promote "equal outcomes for every student, without exception," regardless of their actual achievements, grades, or work ethic.
So perhaps it shouldn't come as a surprise that Frisch took his oath of office with his right hand placed solidly on a stack of books that contain pornographic imagery, graphic sexual content, and explainers on oral and anal sex.

Proud Moment

They're absolutely amazing.
First, they ban books through "decolonization" and "sensitivity" (Dr Seuss, anyone).
Then, they provoke with pornography.
Then they project "book banning" onto their opponents.
Then they push legislation to cement the inversion.

Demons. https://t.co/91mzhTMjxO
— James Lindsay, against magic (@ConceptualJames) December 14, 2023

Rep. Ayanna Pressley introduces legislation to fight book bans

There was some discussion in another post this week about James Lindsay's thoughts as a non-Christian on advantages of Christian theology. Maybe it's best not to ban those Bibles:

James is right.

Christianity acknowledges the failings of Man and affords people capacity to repent of their own free will

This requires an acceptance of individual self-responsibility if one chooses to walk the path

If you can do this you are somewhat insulated from Wokeness https://t.co/BTCdNbRPXj
— Classic__Liberal (@ClassicLibera12) December 10, 2023

Abigail Shrier, June 2021: The Books Are Already Burning
The question is only: How long will decent people stand by quietly and watch it happen?

One hundred and forty-six people in Halifax, Nova Scotia wait on a list to borrow a library book. A question hangs over them: Will activists let them read it?
The book is mine -- Irreversible Damage -- and it is an investigation of a medical mystery: Why is the number of teenage girls requesting (and obtaining) gender reassignment skyrocketing in the United States, Canada, Scandinavia and Europe? In Great Britain, it's up 4,400% over the last decade.
Though it shouldn't be, this has become a highly controversial area of inquiry. The book is an exploration of why so many girls would, in such a short timeframe, decide they are transgender. And it raises questions about whether they're getting appropriate medical treatment.

The book is not about whether trans people exist. They do. And it is not about adults who elect to medically transition genders. As I have stated endlessly in public interviews and in Senate testimony, I fully support medical transition for mature adults and believe that transgender individuals should live openly without fear or stigma.
Yet since publication, I have faced fierce opposition -- not just to the ideas presented, challenged, or explored -- but to the publication of the book itself. A top lawyer for the ACLU called for it to be banned. Powerful organizations like GLAAD have lobbied against it and pressured corporations -- Target and Amazon among others -- to remove Irreversible Damage from their virtual shelves.
There's a pattern to such censorship campaigns. . .

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Mental Health

Paraphrase of Jonathan Haidt: Here is a 14th explanation for the teen mental health crisis which does not work: parents are increasingly abusive since 2010 (they are not).

Nobody has yet proposed an explanation for the crisis that works -- especially internationally -- other than the rapid teen transition from flip phones to smart phones around 2012. This also explains why academic achievement stopped rising around 2012 and started declining, as shown in both NAEP and PISA scores. Students with smartphones pay less attention to teachers, and to fellow students.

Data on studies for all 14 explanations available at the link.

Maybe parents and schools are accidentally abusive by being too attentive. Abigail Shrier is releasing a book at the end of February: BAD THERAPY: Why the Kids Aren't Growing Up

A single question motivates BAD THERAPY: Why does the generation that received the most therapy, the most mental health diagnoses, the most psychiatric medication also seem to have the worst mental health? How did a generation raised so gently come to believe it had experienced debilitating trauma? And when faced with tasks teenagers a generation ago handled with ease, why are so many of today's young people falling apart? Why are they not able to do for themselves? Why are they not growing up?
BAD THERAPY is the product of hundreds of interviews with parents, teenagers, child psychiatrists, academic psychologists, sociologists, parenting coaches, teachers and school counselors. And what I learned is this: The experts are a big part of the problem. For more than a generation, our mental health experts have been treating healthy young people, making them sick, feeding the well into an unending mental health pipeline.
But we parents can fix this. . .

Well, she was ahead of the curve on late onset transgenderism . . . .

Naming the bad therapies:

America threw more preventative "mental health resources" at Gen Z than at any generation prior. Therapeutic techniques guided how these kids were parented. Our kids were treated to "Social Emotional Learning," and "Empathy Education," and "Restorative Justice" at school.

Many of these "therapies" also involve overly powerful organizations tracking kids in creepy ways . . .

Mental health therapies (and educations) should make things better -- not worse.

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Weekend

Maybe this is a good time to relax a little and spend some time with a kid, maybe even outdoors! Maybe even read something good to a kid.

Got plans?

Don't send the kids to Harvard to study liberal arts.

Steven Hayward: The Week in Pictures: Gay Context Edition

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Music

O come, O come, Emmanuel

Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring; Medley

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, December 9, California Rant

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:08 AM

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1 And nary a peep about today being 250 years since the Boston Tea Party or July 4, 2026 being the 250th Independence Day.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 16, 2023 11:13 AM (FgV+x)

2 Baby fitted with hearing aids has sweet reaction to
Hearing mom's voice for the first time:

https://tinyurl.com/3vjv9zsm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:13 AM (HYrcC)

3 O Come, O Come Emmanuel my favorite carol.

Posted by: Tuna at December 16, 2023 11:14 AM (oaGWv)

4 I have farcebook friends who often post the side by side memes, showing "when we were growing up" pic next to "kids now" pics.

There is nothing distorted about the comparisons. The differences are stark, and obviously, have consequences.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:16 AM (QBaJw)

5 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 16, 2023 11:13 AM

I peeped about the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party I posted something about in ihe tech thread at about 5:40 this morning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:16 AM (HYrcC)

6 O Come, O Come Emmanuel my favorite carol.
Posted by: Tuna at December 16, 2023 11:14 AM (oaGWv)

Same here. Sung by a large choir, with just an organ as accompaniment.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:16 AM (QBaJw)

7 Call 1 877 PORN 4 KIDS,
1 877 PORN 4 KIDS,
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Donate your porn today!

Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at December 16, 2023 11:17 AM (/QIWP)

8 Posted by: Tuna at December 16, 2023 11:14 AM

We always sing two verses of that lovely carol every Sunday during Advent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:18 AM (HYrcC)

9 I appreciate all the work Abigail Shrier is doing. I'll buy her book, not because I'm going to read it, but because I want to support her efforts.

I'm not saying I wouldn't learn anything from reading her work, but I already know most of this. Others don't, and they should read what she has written. She should make her way around all the podcasts, people should talk about her work.

Whenever anyone says journalists are bad and evil, that's true, except there ARE real journalists working independently, who are getting the word out. We should reward them for their efforts.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:21 AM (QBaJw)

10 Some things never change when dealing with your kids.
We used to spend days putting the kids toys together before Christmas.
Now I'm putting a BBQ together for one of those same kids, and yes he was homeschooled.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 16, 2023 11:21 AM (UL8Eh)

11 Just stop it!

Of Course: Human Breathing Blamed for Climate Change

https://tinyurl.com/ybtyre4n

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:22 AM (FVME7)

12 >>> And nary a peep about today being 250 years since the Boston Tea Party or July 4, 2026 being the 250th Independence Day.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

History is so last year.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 16, 2023 11:22 AM (cOq4q)

13 Because tomorrow is "Joyful Sunday" in which we light a pink candle in our Advent weath and rejoice that Christ is with us and coming again.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:23 AM (uvTOp)

14 The cartoon of the "dangers" of home-schooling is frightening. The child is looking out of a prison formed by Reading, Writing, Arithmetic, and the Bible. The "educators" obviously think that those skills, grounded by a good understanding of the Judeo-Christian ethic, encourage Thought Crime.

A new Dark Age is coming. If you are aren't buying old books, start now!

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 16, 2023 11:23 AM (pJWtt)

15 We always sing two verses of that lovely carol every Sunday during Advent.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:18 AM (HYrcC)

Yeah, no offense to the two fellas in the highly produced video posted. I'd rather hear any church choir singing it. And honestly, just the music without the words? Something important is missing.

Maybe this year more than others recently, the words matter.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:23 AM (QBaJw)

16 Harvard Aims to Reduce Jews to 1-2% of Student Population

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But that's only a temporary solution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:23 AM (FVME7)

17 "...Originally penned by Gouverneur Morris, the Preamble states, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain this Constitution for the United States of America."

And although today we can find little to argue with in such beautiful - and familiar - language, at the time of its framing, and immediately after, the Preamble was the subject of much debate, all intimately tied to the deliberations that resulted in the Bill of Rights.

This language may not be familiar to most kids. Making it sound beautiful to them may also take some effort."

Schoolhouse Rock had a song that used Morris' exact quote as the lyrics to a song. I remember those words to this day.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:24 AM (d1mAO)

18 The cartoon of the "dangers" of home-schooling is frightening. The child is looking out of a prison formed by Reading, Writing, Arithmetic, and the Bible. The "educators" obviously think that those skills, grounded by a good understanding of the Judeo-Christian ethic, encourage Thought Crime.

A new Dark Age is coming. If you are aren't buying old books, start now!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 16, 2023 11:23 AM (pJWtt)

If you home school your kids, teach them to read, raise them in faith, you are threatening "our democracy."

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:24 AM (QBaJw)

19 Is there nothing those damn Republicans won't do?

Butler University Investigates College Republicans for Condemning Antisemitism

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:25 AM (FVME7)

20 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 16, 2023 11:26 AM (T4tVD)

21 E plabnista ...

The sacred words.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:26 AM (W/lyH)

22 Thank goodness math is not allowed!

U.S. Intel Report Indicates Russia Has Lost 90% of Its Troops in Ukraine War

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:26 AM (FVME7)

23 We are in the midst of a Bolshevik Revolution

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 11:26 AM (fwDg9)

24 On a personal note, my ex and her kids' dad were home schooling their kids. I noted with some concern, my ex didn't seem to be putting a great deal of effort into it, and their kids, who are extremely smart, weren't really putting in much effort either.

At least when they were with us, they didn't. I had to realize after the fact, how much I had a distorted view of their father. It was not possible for me at the time to recognize, he was/is the good parent.

So I sent them Christmas gifts yesterday, contacted him and let him know they're coming. Initially he seemed willing to keep in touch with me, but lately he hasn't. Among all the other distortions my ex perpetrated, I have no doubt she's told him lies about me that might be on a similar plane to the lies she told me about him. So be it. It's about the children. Always is.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:28 AM (QBaJw)

25 BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:16 AM

I like Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring, too. Maybe partly because I've accompanied string groups playing it (on piano).

Posted by: KT at December 16, 2023 11:28 AM (rrtZS)

26 Tragedy!

San Francisco Eliminates Reparations Office Due to Budget Deficit

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:28 AM (FVME7)

27 >>> U.S. Intel Report Indicates Russia Has Lost 90% of Its Troops in Ukraine War

So highly improbable it is ludicrous.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 16, 2023 11:30 AM (cOq4q)

28 So when the Senate and their staffers aren't busy screwing us, they're busy screwing each other. In the senate. No debauchery is too great for these scum.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:30 AM (W/lyH)

29 9 I appreciate all the work Abigail Shrier is doing. I'll buy her book, not because I'm going to read it, but because I want to support her efforts.

I'm not saying I wouldn't learn anything from reading her work, but I already know most of this. Others don't, and they should read what she has written. She should make her way around all the podcasts, people should talk about her work.

Whenever anyone says journalists are bad and evil, that's true, except there ARE real journalists working independently, who are getting the word out. We should reward them for their efforts.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:21 AM (QBaJw)

I'll buy her book as well, even though the BAD THERAPY book was written over 50 years ago. It's called The Myth of Mental Illness, written by Thomas Szasz, M.D.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:30 AM (d1mAO)

30 The ACLU wants to ban books now?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2023 11:31 AM (63Dwl)

31 Kremlin Says Putin Wants a More “Constructive” U.S. President

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I guess he means one who is not a babbling idiot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:32 AM (FVME7)

32 Morning.

Still have coffee.

Still not wearing pants.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 11:32 AM (1Yy3c)

33 It seems the education "field" besides being overrun with marxist democrats of all types also attracted sodomites, rapists, weirdos, purple haired freaks, perverts, pederasts, rapists, pedophiles, layabouts, moochers, short haired mamma jammas and rapists.

Predators always hunt where their prey is located.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2023 11:33 AM (R/m4+)

34 Posted by: BurtTC at December

We don't have a church choir since we are so very small but we do have some folks with very nice voices, and a part of the service they seem to like is my explaining about the background of the hymns and the theological significance of the hymns or the background of the time it was written during. That particular hymn has such moving words and because it was probably a monastic devotional element it is very prayerful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:33 AM (UVWK5)

35 Harvard Aims to Reduce Jews to 1-2% of Student Population

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But that's only a temporary solution.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:23 AM (FVME7)

I'm guessing Harvard has a committee going working on a permanent solution. A final solution, if you will.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 11:34 AM (1Yy3c)

36 Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 had an offer to play soccer at Harvard.
She went elsewhere.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:34 AM (W/lyH)

37 Now they've gone and done it!

Elon Musk’s Mom "Furious" After FCC Denies Rural Broadband Subsidies for Starlink

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:35 AM (FVME7)

38 I'm not a fan of David Brooks, but one thing he said that was devastating because it's true is liberals have all the cultural power in America and conservatives have zero.

People can act like absolute demons and revel in evil and no one will ever lay a finger on them. In fact, if you so much as call them out, your life will be ruined.

Posted by: Blago at December 16, 2023 11:37 AM (dDaoY)

39 36 Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 had an offer to play soccer at Harvard.
She went elsewhere.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:34 AM (W/lyH)

I've never posted this before (see Dilbert cartoon), but both my brother and I went to Yale. My brother has already arranged for his daughter to go to Yale (she's 9). If I can help it, my son's never going there, much less Harvard.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:37 AM (d1mAO)

40 We don't have a church choir since we are so very small but we do have some folks with very nice voices, and a part of the service they seem to like is my explaining about the background of the hymns and the theological significance of the hymns or the background of the time it was written during. That particular hymn has such moving words and because it was probably a monastic devotional element it is very prayerful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:33 AM (UVWK5)
***
Heh
My old church was always asking for more men for the choir. Every time I raised my hand, the pastor would say, "Not so fast Diogenes! We need men to do the offering plate too."
Apparently they heard my singing.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:38 AM (W/lyH)

41 24 On a personal note, my ex and her kids' dad were home schooling their kids. I noted with some concern, my ex didn't seem to be putting a great deal of effort into it, and their kids, who are extremely smart, weren't really putting in much effort either.

At least when they were with us, they didn't. I had to realize after the fact, how much I had a distorted view of their father. It was not possible for me at the time to recognize, he was/is the good parent.

So I sent them Christmas gifts yesterday, contacted him and let him know they're coming. Initially he seemed willing to keep in touch with me, but lately he hasn't. Among all the other distortions my ex perpetrated, I have no doubt she's told him lies about me that might be on a similar plane to the lies she told me about him. So be it. It's about the children. Always is.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:28 AM (QBaJw)

Good for you! Stay strong.

Posted by: m at December 16, 2023 11:38 AM (T7nlx)

42 I'm guessing Harvard has a committee going working on a permanent solution. A final solution, if you will.
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 11:34 AM

The train cars were a giveaway.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:39 AM (W/lyH)

43 Granddaughter of Diogenes #2 had an offer to play soccer at Harvard.
She went elsewhere.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:34 AM (W/lyH)

I've never posted this before (see Dilbert cartoon), but both my brother and I went to Yale. My brother has already arranged for his daughter to go to Yale (she's 9). If I can help it, my son's never going there, much less Harvard.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:37 AM (d1mAO)

Won't Yale be a little tough on a 9-year old?

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)

44 And nary a peep about today being 250 years since the Boston Tea Party or July 4, 2026 being the 250th Independence Day.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 16, 2023 11:13 AM (FgV+x)
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I believe yesterday was the anniversary of the first state ratification to the Constitution.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2023 11:40 AM (7oI32)

45 I like Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring, too. Maybe partly because I've accompanied string groups playing it (on piano).
Posted by: KT at December 16, 2023 11:28 AM (rrtZS)

I'm sure that's nice. I do have a bias, that pianos are too perfect sometimes, too refined. That a harpsichord or some other... shall we say, well-tempered clavier, just sound better, with their limitations.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:41 AM (QBaJw)

46 I love almost any version of "O Come, O Come, Emmanuel." That one was beautiful.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at December 16, 2023 11:42 AM (MTm8X)

47 I'll buy her book as well, even though the BAD THERAPY book was written over 50 years ago. It's called The Myth of Mental Illness, written by Thomas Szasz, M.D.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:30 AM (d1mAO)

Hmmm, myth? Mental illness is most certainly not a myth. Perhaps he meant something else by that rather stark title.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:42 AM (QBaJw)

48 Schoolhouse Rock had a song that used Morris' exact quote as the lyrics to a song. I remember those words to this day.

Yup. But you’d have to add a lot of rape and bitches for networks to feel comfortable teaching airing that today.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 11:42 AM (EXyHK)

49 Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:38 AM (W/lyH)

People often complain about their voices, but I've never heard anyone who sounded S bad as they thought they did. However I had lunch with a congregant yesterday and she told me not to sing in the microphone- that it was too loud and I sounded better when I was softer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:43 AM (pzZ8h)

50 Kremlin Says Putin Wants a More “Constructive” U.S. President

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I guess he means one who is not a babbling idiot.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:32 AM (FVME7)

It occurred to me not too long ago, not only has Pootin been quite restrained in his efforts in Ukraine, he must also be holding his tongue for some reason, on topics that could and would be not just embarrassing, but perhaps quite destructive for U.S. politicians.

Surely he knows the kinds of graft we've engaged in over there, and has knowledge of the bio and chemical weapons labs we have over there. I'm not really sure why he doesn't say anything about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:45 AM (QBaJw)

51 Won't Yale be a little tough on a 9-year old?
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 11:40 AM (1Yy3c)

Funny story. One of my brother's classmates is Johnny Rice (Susan Rice's brother). He's on the board of the Yale Corporation. My brother came back from a reunion this year and said that when the time comes, my niece was going. It's been arranged, he said.

Wild. The Ivy League has become a joke.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:46 AM (d1mAO)

52 We don't have a church choir since we are so very small but we do have some folks with very nice voices, and a part of the service they seem to like is my explaining about the background of the hymns and the theological significance of the hymns or the background of the time it was written during. That particular hymn has such moving words and because it was probably a monastic devotional element it is very prayerful.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:33 AM (UVWK5)

Yes, I'm not sure the origin, but I assume it originated with monks.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:46 AM (QBaJw)

53 Evil costs nothing to learn. Except your soul.

Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 11:46 AM (J4YJJ)

54 However I had lunch with a congregant yesterday and she told me not to sing in the microphone- that it was too loud and I sounded better when I was softer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:43 AM (pzZ8h)

Learn to sing like this chick.

https://youtu.be/RcMt6zI7VkM

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 11:47 AM (1Yy3c)

55 Hmmm, myth? Mental illness is most certainly not a myth. Perhaps he meant something else by that rather stark title.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:42 AM (QBaJw)

He did. The title is proactive, but his argument is more nuanced. He was a psychologist, so he definitely believed there was an illness to treat.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:48 AM (d1mAO)

56 I'm not a fan of David Brooks, but one thing he said that was devastating because it's true is liberals have all the cultural power in America and conservatives have zero.

People can act like absolute demons and revel in evil and no one will ever lay a finger on them. In fact, if you so much as call them out, your life will be ruined.
Posted by: Blago at December 16, 2023 11:37 AM (dDaoY)

Yeah, that's not true.

People are fighting back, and winning some of these fights. If the old scolds of a bygone era want to keep complaining, it might be due to them not really paying attention.

I don't get discouraged when I see trannies in the White House, or some idiot swearing on a stack of pron.

Show it. Show who you are. People are recoiling against this, and that means they won't win.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:49 AM (QBaJw)

57 Good for you! Stay strong.
Posted by: m at December 16, 2023 11:38 AM (T7nlx)

Thank you, it'll be a small victory if the package I sent doesn't get returned. I assume they'll get it, but you never know.

As much as I had to pay for shipping, they better get it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:51 AM (QBaJw)

58 Several nights ago on the ONT, a choir singing a song from the soundtrack from the videogame Far Cry 5 was posted. The bad guys in that game are Christian nationalists and the posted song, Keep Your Rifle By Your Side, is one of their hymns. It's really quite pleasant in a folksy way. The other songs on the album are also. Their religion is slightly more radical than mine focusing, as it does, on an apocalyptic vision and weapons for the final battle but, still, much less offensive than the featured items in this posts.

Keep Your Rifle By Your Side

https://tinyurl.com/48ns29h5

Another example of the powers that be creating villains that are actually more the good guys.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 11:51 AM (FVME7)

59 BurtTC , I wish you were right and hope that you are. But I'm just not seeing it.

The school board president that is taking his oath on a stock or pron, this kind of disgusting behavior would not have been tolerated even 10 years ago. Much less in what was once a conservative state, Virginia.

We're moving backwards and it's scary.

Posted by: Blago at December 16, 2023 11:52 AM (dDaoY)

60 He did. The title is proactive, but his argument is more nuanced. He was a psychologist, so he definitely believed there was an illness to treat.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 11:48 AM (d1mAO)

How we treat mental illness is in many ways a disgrace.

And we focus so much of our attention treating symptoms, we overlook way too often, the underlying causes.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:52 AM (QBaJw)

61 Show it. Show who you are. People are recoiling against this, and that means they won't win.

I’m currently reading A.E. van Vogt’s Slan. There’s a line from some old guy in there about how the Slan slowly took over all of the institutions of America (and probably the world). But they made a mistake: they tried to force people to mutilate their children into Slan, too. That’s what got people to rise up against them in enough numbers to drive them away.

(No idea yet how the Slan in general fit into the story… so far there really are no good guys except maybe the protagonist’s mother, and that’s only because she died in the first couple of pages.)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 11:53 AM (EXyHK)

62 O Come, O Come Emmanuel my favorite carol.
Posted by: Tuna at December 16, 2023 11:14 AM (oaGWv)

Same here. Sung by a large choir, with just an organ as accompaniment.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:16 AM (QBaJw)
***

Mary, exhausted, finally gets Baby Jesus to sleep and turns around to see little Yitsak standing there. Yitsak has decided that what she needs now is a nice drum solo.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:54 AM (W/lyH)

63 Interesting list of trustees ("Overseers") at Harvard. The list is entirely Marxist, no doubt, and includes a couple of Obama judges, a 28 year old professional womens soccer player and the infamous Fiona Hill. What a collection.

https://shorturl.at/tCKLW

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2023 11:54 AM (31WUl)

64 Tuna - Give this rendition a go. Somewhat unlikely source, but nice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vatvUREAPY0

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 11:55 AM (XeU6L)

65 BurtTC , I wish you were right and hope that you are. But I'm just not seeing it.

The school board president that is taking his oath on a stock or pron, this kind of disgusting behavior would not have been tolerated even 10 years ago. Much less in what was once a conservative state, Virginia.

We're moving backwards and it's scary.
Posted by: Blago at December 16, 2023 11:52 AM (dDaoY)

The danger is if autocratic government, in the service of oligarchs, takes hold enough to prevent any fighting back. Otherwise, if the idiots who do stupid things keep doing them in the open, people will reject it. We ARE rejecting it.

Brooks and people of his ilk are living in a vacuum, who only see traditional journalism as the means of fighting back, and one of the greatest areas of progress we've seen, in just this past year or so, is the emergence of alternative media. They're not winning! They're getting more and more desperate, because fewer and fewer people listen to their stupid idiot teevee nonsense. People like Elon and Tucker and Rogan and many others, their voices are getting louder. While the likes of Brooks become irrelevant.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 11:57 AM (QBaJw)

66 " I fully support medical transition for mature adults and believe that transgender individuals should live openly without fear or stigma."

Well, there's your problem right there, Abby. The entire edifice of trannyism boils down to the notion that God made a mistake by putting a soul of one sex into the body of another sex, and that Man can "fix" that mistake through surgery. That is Satanic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 11:57 AM (3H2ms)

67 "San Francisco Eliminates Reparations Office Due to Budget Deficit"

That whole thing was nothing but political theater. It was a farce from inception, and the blacks who went along with it are made to look like fools. Additionally it became an excuse for all manner of racial civil unrest, shoplifting, muggings, carjackings, etc. Because gib me dats.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 16, 2023 11:58 AM (MeG8a)

68 I have very fond memories of schoolhouse rock when I was in grammar school. Schoolhouse rock taught me the preamble to the constitution…. I can still sing that song! Good tune…. Probably not on TV anymore

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:00 PM (xT8gx)

69 (No idea yet how the Slan in general fit into the story… so far there really are no good guys except maybe the protagonist’s mother, and that’s only because she died in the first couple of pages.)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 11:53 AM (EXyHK)

Well, back here in the real world, there are guys who will see a shrine of the devil in their state house, and will smash the thing to bits.

When they get arrested and charged for it, that too will show the rest of us what we're up against.

It can't last. It won't last.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:00 PM (QBaJw)

70 We're moving backwards and it's scary.
Posted by: Blago at December 16, 2023 11:52 AM (dDaoY)
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What amazes me the most is most people support some element of social degradation, but without considering its impact. It's like they think our society is bullet-proof, and weird as hell. I must know any number of "climate activists", for example, and they have literally zero idea they are hurting the world and themselves.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 16, 2023 12:01 PM (31WUl)

71 O Come, O Come Emmanuel my favorite carol.

“And ransom captive Israel.”

Why, it’s almost a modern song.

There was a meme going around a week or so ago about how so many Christmas songs highlight that the Jews were in Israel in Jesus’s time. Now I can’t not notice it. Bethlehem, Israel, it’s all over Christmas. How can anyone not know that Israel is the homeland of the Jews?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:01 PM (EXyHK)

72 17, 68 — Evidence I read the content but not the comments before commenting myself!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:02 PM (xT8gx)

73 Well, there's your problem right there, Abby. The entire edifice of trannyism boils down to the notion that God made a mistake by putting a soul of one sex into the body of another sex, and that Man can "fix" that mistake through surgery. That is Satanic.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 11:57 AM (3H2ms)

I agree with her. I fully support these people being able to mutilate themselves. As long as I'm not paying for it.

Otherwise, sure, walk around like a bunch of Frankenstein monsters, show the world who and what you are. I'm sorry you are so mentally ill that you felt the need to do that, but I'm not going to hassle you about it. You're sick, and you don't want to acknowledge it. So be it. I'll leave you alone. Just leave me, and LEAVE THE KIDS alone.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:03 PM (QBaJw)

74 How can anyone not know that Israel is the homeland of the Jews?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

How can anyone not know that boys are boys and girls are girls?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 12:04 PM (FVME7)

75 BurtTC @ 65-
I believe the left will put human flesh on the menu before the end of the decade, as Soylent Green or solely for elite epicureans is a tossup.

Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 12:05 PM (J4YJJ)

76 The old Christmas carols are the best carols…. Somehow O Come, O Come Emmanuel and Silent Night move me more than Wham!’s Last Christmas….

I love O Holy Night as well

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:05 PM (xT8gx)

77 Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:54 AM (W/lyH)

Well, it’s probably best not to think too much about modern carols.

Anyway, kids do stuff without thinking and have done forever. The idea of some kid banging away on a drum to Mary makes me laugh and I guess she did finally get caught up on sleep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 12:06 PM (YoJwC)

78 Mary, exhausted, finally gets Baby Jesus to sleep and turns around to see little Yitsak standing there. Yitsak has decided that what she needs now is a nice drum solo.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 16, 2023 11:54 AM (W/lyH)

One of those songs that belong on a bonfire. Right alongside damn near everything recorded in the past 40 years. And that stupid birds for 12 days song.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:07 PM (QBaJw)

79 KT, sorry to bother you, but did my email for pet thread arrive?

Posted by: barbarausa at December 16, 2023 12:07 PM (enw9G)

80 That homeschool cartoon doesn't illustrate the advantage of keeping your kids away from the vermin infecting government schools.

Posted by: fd at December 16, 2023 12:08 PM (vFG9F)

81 How can anyone not know that Israel is the homeland of the Jews?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

How can anyone not know that boys are boys and girls are girls?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 12:04 PM (FVME7)

Any kid who went to Sunday school even occasionally in the 70s 80s and 90s would know the Jews’ homeland was Israel thousands of years ago. Very large percentages of kids have no exposure to church anymore… this is at the root of our problems I think. Oh… and if you go to church you might be acquainted with Genesis 1: male and female created he them…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:10 PM (xT8gx)

82 I agree with her. I fully support these people being able to mutilate themselves. As long as I'm not paying for it.

Otherwise, sure, walk around like a bunch of Frankenstein monsters, show the world who and what you are. I'm sorry you are so mentally ill that you felt the need to do that, but I'm not going to hassle you about it. You're sick, and you don't want to acknowledge it. So be it. I'll leave you alone. Just leave me, and LEAVE THE KIDS alone.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:03 PM (QBaJw)

Well, I'm not sure about allowing the insane to mutilate themselves, even if by proxy, because they will do it regardless of its legality, somehow. "Christine Jorgenson" got the slice and dice in Denmark, didn't it?

But what we can do is mock the ever-loving Hell out of them, and refuse to hire them for any but the most menial work, and always refuse to indulge them in their insanity.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:10 PM (3H2ms)

83 BurtTC @ 65-
I believe the left will put human flesh on the menu before the end of the decade, as Soylent Green or solely for elite epicureans is a tossup.
Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 12:05 PM (J4YJJ)

Maybe it's the season, but one of the things that makes me hopeful is, these idiots are counting on everyone coming along with their evil insanity.

People may be gullible and easily duped, but you can only push them so far.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:10 PM (QBaJw)

84 I love O Holy Night as well

Absolutely beautiful. That’s the one I chose for my Christmas hymn post this year. I was inspired by the Brian Setzer Orchestra version. I found their Boogie Woogie Christmas at a yard sale last May. Nice album.

Natasha Owens’s version is very good, too.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:11 PM (EXyHK)

85 Home work project done, to do a home outdoor project next?

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 12:11 PM (fwDg9)

86 I believe the left will put human flesh on the menu before the end of the decade, as Soylent Green or solely for elite epicureans is a tossup.
Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 12:05 PM (J4YJJ)

I think there was a "Large with extra long pork and olives" called the Man Eater on the menu at Comet Pizza at one time.

Of course, it was all de-bunked.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2023 12:12 PM (R/m4+)

87 One of those songs that belong on a bonfire.

I have a soft spot for the Joan Jett version of Little Drummer Boy. But that probably proves your point…

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:13 PM (EXyHK)

88 Well, I'm not sure about allowing the insane to mutilate themselves, even if by proxy, because they will do it regardless of its legality, somehow. "Christine Jorgenson" got the slice and dice in Denmark, didn't it?

But what we can do is mock the ever-loving Hell out of them, and refuse to hire them for any but the most menial work, and always refuse to indulge them in their insanity.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:10 PM (3H2ms)

That's it. You just sit back and let them display themselves. And refuse to participate.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:13 PM (QBaJw)

89 Babylon Bee: Southwest Introduces New C-17 Cargo Plane Capable Of Carrying Your Mom

https://tinyurl.com/mr2wh2b6

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 12:13 PM (1Yy3c)

90 One of those songs that belong on a bonfire. Right alongside damn near everything recorded in the past 40 years. And that stupid birds for 12 days song.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:07 PM (QBaJw)

Fist bump! The whole premise of the "carol" is stupid. I will say, though, that I have heard one or two instrumental renditions, one by a jazz combo, that were really quite pretty. No twee vocals at.all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:14 PM (3H2ms)

91 Oh… and if you go to church you might be acquainted with Genesis 1: male and female created he them…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:10 PM (xT8gx)

Concur. It's Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2023 12:14 PM (R/m4+)

92 Don't send the kids to Harvard to study liberal arts.

Joel Pollack of Breitbart News (who went to Harvard) notes on X:

Email from Harvard Jewish Alumni group: “We have heard from multiple sources at the University that it is the official, undisclosed policy of the school to drive down Jewish admissions to 1-2% of the student body, proportionately matching Jews’ percentage of the U.S. population.”

The Nazis passed a similar law in April, 1933.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2023 12:15 PM (YAtuc)

93 I have a soft spot for the Joan Jett version of Little Drummer Boy. But that probably proves your point…
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:13 PM (EXyHK)

Can't say I've heard it.

Somewhat related, I saw a photo the other day, Dolly Parton and Debbie Harry, with someone or other, I don't remember who. Some guy.

But Dolly and Debbie? I'm not exactly sure how old either of them are, but would I?

You damn right I would.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:15 PM (QBaJw)

94 There was a Mr T looking guy standing on a corner by the mall this morning with a sign that said "God made man for woman and woman for man, amen". I honked and waved.

Posted by: fd at December 16, 2023 12:16 PM (vFG9F)

95 And that stupid birds for 12 days song.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:07 PM (QBaJw)

Fist bump! The whole premise of the "carol" is stupid. I will say, though, that I have heard one or two instrumental renditions, one by a jazz combo, that were really quite pretty. No twee vocals at.all.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:14 PM (3H2ms)

That bird song would absolutely benefit from losing the lyrics.

And not doing 12 verses, of course.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:17 PM (QBaJw)

96 While listening to CJN Speaks

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 12:18 PM (fwDg9)

97 Fifty years ago, I read a syfy novel.that had, as a minor character, a rock star who had had surgery to make his penis enormous. I thought, how stupid! No one would mutilate his genitalia like that! OK, so I was wrong.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 12:18 PM (FVME7)

98 There was a Mr T looking guy standing on a corner by the mall this morning with a sign that said "God made man for woman and woman for man, amen". I honked and waved.
Posted by: fd at December 16, 2023 12:16 PM (vFG9F)

Obviously not one of us. A true Moron would had a sign that read, "God made man for woman and woman for sammiches."

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 12:18 PM (1Yy3c)

99 I never thought my beliefs and opinions would place me on the wrong side of the barbed wire but here I stand.

Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 12:19 PM (J4YJJ)

100 Concur. It's Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2023 12:14 PM (R/m4+)

I just feel sorry for Steve, he keeps getting lumped into this.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:19 PM (QBaJw)

101 Fifty years ago, I read a syfy novel.that had, as a minor character, a rock star who had had surgery to make his penis enormous. I thought, how stupid! No one would mutilate his genitalia like that! OK, so I was wrong.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 12:18 PM (FVME7)

So.... what's this surgeon's name and phone number?

Not for me, I'm asking for a friend.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:20 PM (QBaJw)

102 Concur. It's Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 16, 2023 12:14 PM (R/m4+)

I just feel sorry for Steve, he keeps getting lumped into this.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:19 PM (QBaJw)

I dunno, it sounds apocryphal. As a name, Steve doesn't strike me as being all that Hebrew-y.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 12:20 PM (1Yy3c)

103 The old Christmas carols are the best carols…. Somehow O Come, O Come Emmanuel and Silent Night move me more than Wham!’s Last Christmas….

I love O Holy Night as well
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Well, during this season, I (probably tediously) tout Fbcradio.org. A click on the streaming button (upper right hand corner) will produce a non-stop play of traditional hymns and carols. Nice to listen to while on the computer. Ironically, they just played 'O Come, O Come Emmanuel'
Silent Night
12:09:23
O Come, O Come, Emmanuel
12:14:38
Winds Through the Olive Trees
12:17:37
From Heaven Above to Earth I Come
On-Air Now
12:19:14
Comfort, Comfort Ye My People

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 12:21 PM (XeU6L)

104 That bird song would absolutely benefit from losing the lyrics.

And not doing 12 verses, of course.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:17 PM (QBaJw)

I think the "Twelve Days" song is very ancient, and was meant for ensemble singing, not radio airplay.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:22 PM (3H2ms)

105 it is the official, undisclosed policy of the school to drive down Jewish admissions to 1-2% of the student body

Some commenters doubted this, on the grounds that Ivy League schools get so many large donations from Jewish alumni, but I think they ignore the beliefs of the DEIsters.

The DEIsters think that talented Jews who went to Harvard and became rich did so not because they were talented, but because they went to Harvard.

So they think that all the diversity admits that they are currently admitting will be equally successful and equally rich, and will make equivalent donations to Harvard.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 16, 2023 12:22 PM (YAtuc)

106 Can't say I've heard it.

It was only on the album for a few months. I Love Rock ’n Roll came out some time in the autumn, and after Christmas passed they replaced Little Drummer Boy with a mostly forgettable filler track.

Confused the hell out of me when I went to replace my faded cassette with a more durable media.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:23 PM (EXyHK)

107 >>So when the Senate and their staffers aren't busy screwing us, they're busy screwing each other. In the senate. No debauchery is too great for these scum.
Posted by: Diogenes

At least I'm not the only thing in the Senate that smells like shit.

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at December 16, 2023 12:23 PM (HQ9Sl)

108 I dunno, it sounds apocryphal. As a name, Steve doesn't strike me as being all that Hebrew-y.
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 12:20 PM (1Yy3c)

Steven, or Stephen, was a Saint.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:24 PM (3H2ms)

109 I just want my two front teeth.

Posted by: Sister Susie sitting on a thistle at December 16, 2023 12:24 PM (NBVIP)

110 An opportunity for the culture vandals is that more and more kids are in households where there are no stay-at-home parents. This gives a lot of mind-molding power to schools and daycares.

And in homes where there is a stay-at-home parent living off taxpayers there's not much motivation to equip your kids to live a healthy life.

Posted by: Emmie at December 16, 2023 12:26 PM (Sf2cq)

111 the rapid teen transition from flip phones to smart phones around 2012

I'll say it again. The problem is not smart phones. The problem is social media.

Blaming smart phones is like blaming guns.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 16, 2023 12:26 PM (CHHv1)

112 At least I'm not the only thing in the Senate that smells like shit.
Posted by: Jerry Nadler at December 16, 2023 12:23 PM (HQ9Sl)

As I said last night, that table should be regarded as hopelessly contaminated, like a Superfund site. Drag it to the nearest open plaza, douse it in Diesel fuel, and burn it to ashes. Then bill Senator Bill Cardin for its replacement, since it was his pet fag that caused the contamination. Bet you it's a 20,000 table.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:27 PM (3H2ms)

113 I think the "Twelve Days" song is very ancient, and was meant for ensemble singing, not radio airplay.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:22 PM (3H2ms)

I just assumed it was a drinking song, sorta like 99 Bottles of Beer On the Wall.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

114 I dunno, it sounds apocryphal. As a name, Steve doesn't strike me as being all that Hebrew-y.
Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 12:20 PM (1Yy3c)

Steven, or Stephen, was a Saint.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:24 PM (3H2ms)

All the more reason to doubt Steve had anything to do with this.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:29 PM (QBaJw)

115 Wouldn't you like some of this old Phillipino creamy come in his shorts in quarts?

Posted by: Firesign at December 16, 2023 12:29 PM (QB+5g)

116 At least I'm not the only thing in the Senate that smells like shit.
Posted by: Jerry Nadler
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I suspect that the Bwaney Fwank odor still faintly lingers over the House.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 12:30 PM (XeU6L)

117 Blaming smart phones is like blaming guns.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 16, 2023 12:26 PM (CHHv1)

Smart phones made possible the 24/7 addiction to social media. And, of course, TikTok and other evil shit were built for smart phones. Fecesbook is old-school.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:30 PM (3H2ms)

118 This does not reflect the reality of the home schooling world, where children tend to have more experience with a wide variety of people.

Homeschooled children also know that arithmetic is not spelled arithmatic. Harvard isn't getting the best and brightest any longer.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 16, 2023 12:30 PM (0VUL0)

119 CHURCH · DEC 11, 2023 · 169
Pope Francis Excommunicates Apostle Paul Over Outdated Views On Women, Marriage

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 12:31 PM (FVME7)

120 I believe the left will put human flesh on the menu before the end of the decade, as Soylent Green or solely for elite epicureans is a tossup.
Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 12:05 PM (J4YJJ)

As we learned during Covid (if we didn't already know) a lot of medicines involve the use of human flesh. Kinda cannibalistic if you ask me.

Posted by: Emmie at December 16, 2023 12:32 PM (Sf2cq)

121 Drag it to the nearest open plaza, douse it in Diesel fuel, and burn it to ashes.
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By guys wearing EPA suits.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 12:32 PM (XeU6L)

122 Well, there is always me.

It's Adam and Eve, Not Adam And The Beave.

Posted by: Jerry Mathers at December 16, 2023 12:32 PM (R/m4+)

123 Homeschooled children also know that arithmetic is not spelled arithmatic. Harvard isn't getting the best and brightest any longer.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 16, 2023 12:30 PM (0VUL0)

Good catch!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:33 PM (3H2ms)

124 12 Days does sound like a drinking song now that you mention it

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 12:33 PM (fwDg9)

125 I want a hippopotamus for Christmas.

Posted by: Only a hippopotamus will do at December 16, 2023 12:33 PM (NBVIP)

126 By guys wearing EPA suits.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 12:32 PM (XeU6L)

Full supplied-air respirators.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:34 PM (3H2ms)

127 Take one down, pass it around!
Twelve days of Christmas y’all!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2023 12:35 PM (u73oe)

128 12 Days does sound like a drinking song now that you mention it
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 12:33 PM (fwDg9)

You say that as though it were a bad thing. Wasn't the tune to Star Spangled Banner originally a song song in pubs?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:36 PM (3H2ms)

129 123 Good catch!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:33 PM (3H2ms)

I remember when they got flamed over that. It was a beautiful moment.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 16, 2023 12:37 PM (0VUL0)

130 I remember when they got flamed over that. It was a beautiful moment.
Posted by: NR Pax
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Missed it. What was the context, by whom?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 12:38 PM (XeU6L)

131 Rhymes with aromatic.

Posted by: Just the punchline at December 16, 2023 12:38 PM (NBVIP)

132 My particular favorite is O Holy Night because it distills the significence of God made flesh. Enduring nail and spear, Jesus is "in all our trials, born to be our friend. He knows our needs. To our weakness he's no stranger." I get choked up reading that, much less singing it.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 16, 2023 12:38 PM (p0oYG)

133 And today on the classical music station they played the most requested Christmas song. The great and seasonally appropriate/ sarc song by Mariah Carey, "All I Want for Christmas is you" which I don't think is accepting Jesus into your heart.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 12:39 PM (RSbhh)

134 You say that as though it were a bad thing. Wasn't the tune to Star Spangled Banner originally a song song in pubs?

Yup. I often hear people complain about how hard the song is to sing. The whole point of that melody is that you don’t have to sing in harmony. The more out of tune people, the better.

Not that I don’t enjoy a really good solo in tune, like that Marine? from several years ago.

If Twelve Days of Christmas is a drinking song originally, you can bet there were alternate lyrics involving having one beer, two shots, three sacks, and so on.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:40 PM (EXyHK)

135
At least I'm not the only thing in the Senate that smells like shit.
Posted by: Jerry Nadler
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I suspect that the Bwaney Fwank odor still faintly lingers over the House.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Don't forget Gerry Studds.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2023 12:41 PM (63Dwl)

136 I've just about had it with D.C. Nothing good comes from there anymore. Take down the Washington monument and put up a statue of Baphomet for all I care.
It would be more honest.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 16, 2023 12:41 PM (MeG8a)

137 I want a hippopotamus for Christmas.
Posted by: Only a hippopotamus will do at December 16, 2023 12:33 PM (NBVIP)

Could I interest you in a Diplodocus?

https://tinyurl.com/2s38tryz

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:41 PM (3H2ms)

138 There was a meme going around a week or so ago about how so many Christmas songs highlight that the Jews were in Israel in Jesus’s time. Now I can’t not notice it. Bethlehem, Israel, it’s all over Christmas. How can anyone not know that Israel is the homeland of the Jews?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:01 PM (EXyHK)

I once substituted in a class for which the teacher assigned a Christmas carol word search for the busywork. I was amazed at how many songs these high schoolers didn't know. Consider that their exposure is likely mostly store music or TV, which leans heavily secular and modern.

Posted by: Emmie at December 16, 2023 12:41 PM (Sf2cq)

139
I'm such a pill these days. I can't help being bitter about the decades of $upport Bill Ackman and his suddenly aware cohorts gave to the evils of DEI and the collapse of moral and intellectual standards in our society.

Now he's the champion of justice and humanity. He says he feels "embarrassed." He needs to feel GUILTY. He needs to dedicate the rest of his life to undoing the damage he's done. It's incalculable and it will be felt for generations.

I don't think he's fully aware yet. I think he's still half asleep about how bad the situation is.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 16, 2023 12:42 PM (lCaJd)

140 I like The Drummer Boy carol. Sung in the right setting and venue, it can be very beautiful.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2023 12:44 PM (BdMk6)

141 I realize I’m strange but Dan Fogelberg’s Auld Lang Syne always sounds Christmas-y to me…. Makes me think of Christmas; not sure why. Fogelberg was a fine singer-songwriter

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:46 PM (9Tih0)

142 Cardin has released a statement saying the ass bandit is no longer employed in the senate and they’ll have no further comment.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2023 12:47 PM (u73oe)

143 I'm such a pill these days. I can't help being bitter about the decades of $upport Bill Ackman and his suddenly aware cohorts gave to the evils of DEI and the collapse of moral and intellectual standards in our society.

==

Cohorts ? Like the Koch foundation ?

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:49 PM (V13WU)

144 Cardin has released a statement saying the ass bandit is no longer employed in the senate and they’ll have no further comment.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2023 12:47 PM (u73oe)

He should still replace the table as a matter of honor. Oh, wait...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:49 PM (3H2ms)

145 Homeschooled children also know that arithmetic is not spelled arithmatic. Harvard isn't getting the best and brightest any longer.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 16, 2023 12:30 PM (0VUL0)

Good catch!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:33 PM (3H2ms)

Isn't Arithmetic the original language of the Gospels?

No wonder the heathens can't spell it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:50 PM (QBaJw)

146 It's warming up out there! Sun is shining brightly, little or no wind, and the thermometer is creeping above the freezing point.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:51 PM (3H2ms)

147 How can anyone not know that Israel is the homeland of the Jews?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Wilful blindness and ignorance.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 12:51 PM (FVME7)

148 Just watched an hour podcast of Tucker Carlson, Kid Rock and John Daley. What an odd 3-some... but some good laughs as they tell stories, drink, and smoke cigars in a basement. Adult language.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 16, 2023 12:51 PM (Q4IgG)

149 If Twelve Days of Christmas is a drinking song originally, you can bet there were alternate lyrics involving having one beer, two shots, three sacks, and so on.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 12:40 PM (EXyHK)

No doubt the maids were not originally milking... nor word the lords leaping.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:51 PM (QBaJw)

150 Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2023 12:47 PM (u73oe)

No Longer employed "IN" the Senate. They probably gave him some off site job.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 12:51 PM (RSbhh)

151 O come, O come, Immanuel.

Posted by: And ransom captive Israel at December 16, 2023 12:52 PM (NBVIP)

152 There is a $chool in Harvard named after Ken Griffin. Who donated 300 million Perhaps he can a$k them to rename the $chool of arts and sciences after someone else ??

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:52 PM (V13WU)

153
Isn't Arithmetic the original language of the Gospels?

No wonder the heathens can't spell it.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Translation of Aramaic to Geek was difficult.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 12:52 PM (XeU6L)

154 Pat a pan. Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at December 16, 2023 12:54 PM (NBVIP)

155 No Longer employed "IN" the Senate. They probably gave him some off site job.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 12:51 PM (RSbhh)

He could work at an Amazon "fulfillment center" packing shit. He has experience.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:54 PM (3H2ms)

156 Or is Ken Griffin not a cohort worthy of disparagement for his affiliations and donations ?

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:54 PM (V13WU)

157 How can anyone not know that Israel is the homeland of the Jews?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Wilful blindness and ignorance.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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They also think that Moses got water from Iraq.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 12:54 PM (XeU6L)

158 I realize I’m strange but Dan Fogelberg’s Auld Lang Syne always sounds Christmas-y to me…. Makes me think of Christmas; not sure why. Fogelberg was a fine singer-songwriter
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:46 PM (9Tih0)

Back when I was pitching woo to various gals, I had to listen to a lot of his stuff. It's not always terrible, but that song in particular reminds me of one gal. I was so desperately in love, but she wasn't willing to commit in any meaningful way. But kept showing up anyway.

So... there's sadness in that song, it hit way too close to home.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:55 PM (QBaJw)

159 Same people who think that Cleopatra was black.

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:55 PM (V13WU)

160 Isn't Arithmetic the original language of the Gospels?

No wonder the heathens can't spell it.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Translation of Aramaic to Geek was difficult.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Well, it isn't in Algebra.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 12:55 PM (FVME7)

161 Or is Ken Griffin not a cohort worthy of disparagement for his affiliations and donations ?
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:54 PM (V13WU)

Ball player?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:56 PM (3H2ms)

162 He could work at an Amazon "fulfillment center" packing shit. He has experience.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 12:54 PM (3H2ms)

Come join me in the fudge factory!

Posted by: T. Cruise at December 16, 2023 12:56 PM (QBaJw)

163 "Parenting coaches"? Oh FFS!

We used to call them grandparents and aunts and uncles. We're doomed.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at December 16, 2023 12:57 PM (gf7Ez)

164 23 We are in the midst of a Bolshevik Revolution
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 11:26 AM (fwDg9)

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Sadly, we are not. We are in the aftermath of a Bolshevik Revolution, and a successful one at that. We are in the midst of what is hopefully the blossoming of an anti-Bolshevik counterrevolution.

I understand the reflex to assume that things are still good and that the barbarians are still at the gates, but that's about two steps behind reality. They're through the gates, it's their keep, and we are on the outside now. The question is, what happens next?

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 16, 2023 12:58 PM (Npnb7)

165 All I know is, stay away from the Geek yogurt.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:58 PM (QBaJw)

166 Cardin has released a statement saying the ass bandit is no longer employed in the senate and they’ll have no further comment.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2023 12:47 PM (u73oe)

“No further comment”….it’s good to one of the elites from a. liberal (Marxist) state.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 16, 2023 12:58 PM (6vqEw)

167 so many bitter people

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:59 PM (V13WU)

168 There were two ass bandits. Was the other a prostitute ?

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:59 PM (V13WU)

169 So... there's sadness in that song, it hit way too close to home.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:55 PM (QBaJw)

Yes…. I lost a girlfriend around Christmas one year and that song is somehow in my memories as being present … as I turned to make my way back home, the snow turned into rain. How melancholy can you get?! And yet it’s still a net-positive memory for me

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 01:00 PM (9Tih0)

170 We are in the midst of a Bolshevik Revolution
Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 11:26 AM (fwDg9)

Sadly, we are not. We are in the aftermath of a Bolshevik Revolution, and a successful one at that. We are in the midst of what is hopefully the blossoming of an anti-Bolshevik counterrevolution.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 16, 2023 12:58 PM (Npnb7)

Seems to me the parallel here is the fall of Rome.

But I've not studied it enough... was the fall of Rome a bad thing, in the long run?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:01 PM (QBaJw)

171 Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:59 PM (V13WU)

Senate aide made a comment about people questioning him about someone he loved, so possibly not.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 01:01 PM (RSbhh)

172 Trump's gonna turn off the internet.

https://instapundit.com/622446/

No. Don't. Stop.

Posted by: Robert at December 16, 2023 01:01 PM (1Yy3c)

173 total rot...

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:02 PM (V13WU)

174 Just think. Exactly a year from now, we still won't know who our next president will be.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2023 01:03 PM (BdMk6)

175 142 Cardin has released a statement saying the ass bandit is no longer employed in the senate and they’ll have no further comment.

Link?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 16, 2023 01:03 PM (NBVIP)

176 There were two ass bandits. Was the other a prostitute ?
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 12:59 PM (V13WU)

Probably a Grindr pickup, which amounts to the same thing, doesn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 01:04 PM (3H2ms)

177 Yes…. I lost a girlfriend around Christmas one year and that song is somehow in my memories as being present … as I turned to make my way back home, the snow turned into rain. How melancholy can you get?! And yet it’s still a net-positive memory for me
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 01:00 PM (9Tih0)

I contacted the gal in question... in fact, not long before my ex came along. She was sweet, but did not seem very receptive to striking up a correspondence.

Too many years, I guess. She had remarked that those days carried a lot of fond memories, but also some not so fond ones. I understood what she meant, but had long since put the negatives behind me. I guess she hadn't done so, not as completely as I did.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:04 PM (QBaJw)

178 172 Trump's gonna turn off the internet.

He's also got a weather machine.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 16, 2023 01:06 PM (NBVIP)

179 Just think. Exactly a year from now, we still won't know who our next president will be.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2023 01:03 PM (BdMk6)

Hell, we haven't known who our real president is for almost 3 years.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:06 PM (QBaJw)

180 130 I remember when they got flamed over that. It was a beautiful moment.
Posted by: NR Pax
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Missed it. What was the context, by whom?

It was on Twitter if I recalled correctly. The graphic up above was used as the thumbnail image for the article. They ended up having to edit it after being thoroughly dragged over a misspelling.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 16, 2023 01:07 PM (0VUL0)

181 I believe the left will put human flesh on the menu before the end of the decade, as Soylent Green or solely for elite epicureans is a tossup.
Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 12:05 PM (J4YJJ)

If I remember correctly, that already happened in Germany pre-covid.

At that time, there was a disgusted outcry.

Now? I guess the main question would be , did he/she/xe identify as a main course?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2023 01:09 PM (QzZeQ)

182 178 172 Trump's gonna turn off the internet.
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He's also got a weather machine.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 16, 2023 01:06 PM (NBVIP)

There's a movie coming out, I think it's called Civil War. They did a dive into the trailer on Nerdrotic's podcast. It's still not clear what perspective they're taking, but it looks like a lefty version of the possible events.

With a "three term president" in office.

Uh huh.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:09 PM (QBaJw)

183 I noticed something very interesting, until recently everybody applauded when someone either switched sides, or joing Rs on issues. Attaboys were passed around. No one lambasted them for spending their lives supporting Dems and their policies. Their conversion was celebrated! But for some reason, some people just can's do nothing right! No matter what they do, even when it is in support of Conservatism, they are met with " oh, but ..." there is no "oh, but". There is "thanks", happy you've seen the light !

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:11 PM (V13WU)

184 1 I believe the left will put human flesh on the menu before the end of the decade, as Soylent Green or solely for elite epicureans is a tossup.
Posted by: Eromero at December 16, 2023 12:05 PM (J4YJJ)

If I remember correctly, that already happened in Germany pre-covid.

At that time, there was a disgusted outcry.

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It'll be in hamburger meat to start. Then they'll start introducing the finer cuts later.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2023 01:13 PM (BdMk6)

185 158 I realize I’m strange but Dan Fogelberg’s Auld Lang Syne always sounds Christmas-y to me…. Makes me think of Christmas; not sure why. Fogelberg was a fine singer-songwriter
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 16, 2023 12:46 PM (9Tih0)

Back when I was pitching woo to various gals, I had to listen to a lot of his stuff. It's not always terrible, but that song in particular reminds me of one gal. I was so desperately in love, but she wasn't willing to commit in any meaningful way. But kept showing up anyway.

So... there's sadness in that song, it hit way too close to home.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 12:55 PM (QBaJw)

It reminds us of this time of year because it ends with a few mournful notes of Auld Lang Syne. (and the snow) Fogelberg has said this was a completely true story for him, with the girl he had intended to marry in high school. You can sense they both still care for each other - but too much has happened, and their paths have diverged.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2023 01:13 PM (q3gwH)

186 There is "thanks", happy you've seen the light !
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:11 PM (V13WU)

Maybe because we are rightfully suspicious of their motives for doing something that we would normally applaud?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 01:13 PM (3H2ms)

187 There's a movie coming out, I think it's called Civil War. They did a dive into the trailer on Nerdrotic's podcast. It's still not clear what perspective they're taking, but it looks like a lefty version of the possible events.

From the trailer it looks like the main protagonist
is a journalist.

So, I think you can be pretty confident of what the political slant of this movie will be.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2023 01:14 PM (QzZeQ)

188 Only think it's the start of the Bolsheviks is they have a good grip on power but haven't yet sealed their envelope

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 01:14 PM (fwDg9)

189 Back when I took French in high school--um, 50 plus years ago--we used to sing familiar carols in French. Ever since then I have heard "O Holy Night" as "Minuit Chretien." For some reason, the words in French are more moving to me.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 16, 2023 01:15 PM (FEVMW)

190 I have hope for many of the kids today. There is a local charity that 'adopts' poor kids for Christmas and ensures they have presents and something to eat. Many of the volunteers are teenagers from our high school. They are provided with $$ to do so and go out and shop, usually by themselves, for the other kids.

They are blessedly happy and joyful when doing so. Their parents obviously raised them right.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2023 01:15 PM (QG3cQ)

191 Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 16, 2023 01:03 PM (NBVIP)

It's apparently on "X" from Cardin's office but I haven't checked that. NY Post is also reporting the firing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 01:15 PM (RSbhh)

192 The question is, what happens next?
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at

Camps.

They are openly saying you're an existential threat. And they're not fugging around.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at December 16, 2023 01:17 PM (xW9NH)

193
Trump's gonna turn off the internet.
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He's also got a weather machine.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

It's always sunny in Trumpadelphia.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 16, 2023 01:18 PM (63Dwl)

194 Maybe because we are rightfully suspicious of their motives for doing something that we would normally applaud?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 01:13 PM (3H2ms)

doubt it

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:18 PM (V13WU)

195 I have hope for many of the kids today. There is a local charity that 'adopts' poor kids for Christmas and ensures they have presents and something to eat. Many of the volunteers are teenagers from our high school. They are provided with $$ to do so and go out and shop, usually by themselves, for the other kids.

They are blessedly happy and joyful when doing so. Their parents obviously raised them right.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 16, 2023 01:15 PM (QG3cQ)

Kaboom sales must be lit .

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 16, 2023 01:18 PM (BdMk6)

196 I need to practice with my phoe camera, Santa went by and got nothing

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 01:19 PM (fwDg9)

197 I noticed something very interesting, until recently everybody applauded when someone either switched sides, or joing Rs on issues. Attaboys were passed around. No one lambasted them for spending their lives supporting Dems and their policies. Their conversion was celebrated! But for some reason, some people just can's do nothing right! No matter what they do, even when it is in support of Conservatism, they are met with " oh, but ..." there is no "oh, but". There is "thanks", happy you've seen the light !
Posted by: runner

We've been cheated
Been mistreated
When will we be loved
We've been put down
We've been pushed 'round
When will we be loved

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 01:20 PM (FVME7)

198 Ok, can't believe I'm gonna ask about this, but here goes.
In the ghey pr0n video recorded in the Hart Senate office building the person you can see has what appears to be two tattoos on his back. Can't make out the one on the left, but the one on the right looks to be the outline of the District of Corruption. They're both pretty large.
Please tell me those are not real permanent tattoos, but instead some sort of temporary rub on thing.
I know, it's illogical to question the judgment of some who decides to commit homosexual acts in Senate office building and agrees to let himself be recorded doing so, but that's just me.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 16, 2023 01:20 PM (NBVIP)

199 There's a movie coming out, I think it's called Civil War. They did a dive into the trailer on Nerdrotic's podcast. It's still not clear what perspective they're taking, but it looks like a lefty version of the possible events.

With a "three term president" in office.

Uh huh.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:09 PM (QBaJw)

We've talked about it here a bit, Larry Correia has been ripping the idea to shreds on twitter. It's not really left or right, it's mainly idiotic - the writer is a Brit who knows absolutely nothing about American politics. Plot in a nutshell - California and Texas team up and attack the rest of the United States for fun and profit.

Of all the ways this topic could have been addressed, this movie picked the most stupid. (in the background Kurt Schlicter is waving and saying "hey I've written 5 books about this!")

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2023 01:21 PM (q3gwH)

200 Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 16, 2023 01:20 PM (NBVIP)

wait, what? you watched it?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2023 01:22 PM (q3gwH)

201 The photo of Frisch, his lover looking adoringly at him, and the ponytail judge.

How to tell me you are both pedophiles without telling me your both pedophiles.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 16, 2023 01:23 PM (Rbu5d)

202 About the movie "Civil War".... someone pointed out that Rob Reiner (IIRC) was behind this movie. So you can pretty much surmise the narrative.

Supposedly there's a break-away by an axis lead by Texas and California. So right off the bat you know it's bullshit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 16, 2023 01:23 PM (Q4IgG)

203 "Can't make out the one on the left, but the one on the right looks to be the outline of the District of Corruption."

"American Graffiti, 2023".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 16, 2023 01:24 PM (3H2ms)

204 189 Back when I took French in high school--um, 50 plus years ago--we used to sing familiar carols in French. Ever since then I have heard "O Holy Night" as "Minuit Chretien." For some reason, the words in French are more moving to me.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 16, 2023 01:15 PM (FEVMW)

French Carols are wonderful, all so happy and joyous. "Bring a torch Jeanette, Isabella" was always a favorite of mine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2023 01:24 PM (q3gwH)

205 Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 16, 2023 01:20 PM (NBVIP)

—————

The other tattoo says “Abandon hope, all ye who enter here.”

Or so I hear.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 16, 2023 01:25 PM (u73oe)

206 I acknowledge that there are people who always complain. Just a state.

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:25 PM (V13WU)

207 From the trailer it looks like the main protagonist
is a journalist.

So, I think you can be pretty confident of what the political slant of this movie will be.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 16, 2023 01:14 PM (QzZeQ)

Yeah, Gary (Nerdrotic) was saying it sure looks like it, but he didn't want to assume too much from the trailer. Sometimes they do misdirect in those, and the movie isn't as bad as it looks.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:26 PM (QBaJw)

208 Speaking of music, a Klingon boy band.

https://youtu.be/kk5t4bHz6oI

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 01:27 PM (FVME7)

209 Plot in a nutshell - California and Texas team up and attack the rest of the United States for fun and profit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 16, 2023 01:21 PM (q3gwH)

Yeah, that's dumb, unless it IS a leftist revolution, and the "Texas" of the movie is really just Austin.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:27 PM (QBaJw)

210 For some reason, the words in French are more moving to me.

One of the interesting things about the song is that the verse about slaves was taken up by abolitionists, and associated with American slavery, and so (I think) is mostly discarded today in English. But the line is also in the French version, where it presumably wasn’t about a specific kind of slavery but a more general one—possibly associated with the French revolution.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 16, 2023 01:30 PM (EXyHK)

211 14...If you are aren't buying old books, start now!
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 16, 2023 11:23 AM (pJWtt)

^^^this

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at December 16, 2023 01:31 PM (Rbu5d)

212
There is "thanks", happy you've seen the light !
Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:11 PM (V13WU)

Maybe because we are rightfully suspicious of their motives for doing something that we would normally applaud?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

===============

I just don't think Bill Ackman and all the law firms that are planning to skip recruitment events on the Harvard campus (but are still willing to hire Harvard law school grads) are anywhere near as aware or active as they need to be. Runner, have the Koch brothers said anything about Hamasvard or the plagiarist?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 16, 2023 01:32 PM (lCaJd)

213 As awful as it is to see the push for indoctrination in the schools, it's also a sign of hope. The various groups who were becoming mainstream - to use their own phrase "out and proud" - exposed themselves for parents to see.

I cheered when Gllaad stupidly changed the name of their GSA school club from "gay-straight alliance" to "genders & sexualities alliances". People who didn't believe there was anything wrong with being gay or straight were leery of "gen-sex club" (as the kids nicknamed it). Membership dropped and even the advisor who originally organized it quit.

And as an added bonus, here's something these "no book ban" people don't understand: Even the best books become hated when kids are forced to read them for school. Bring in gross topics that kids hate, and within a year the good teachers will quietly put them in storage and return to old favorites if the administrators aren't constantly checking up on them. When cleaning storage closets a couple years ago, we found barely-read hardcovers of "acclaimed" stories. Meanwhile, students read taped-up copies of old novels and short stories by Ray Bradbury and Kurt Vonnegut.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 16, 2023 01:32 PM (fxCK2)

214 Yes, Tom Servo, "Un Flambeau, Jeanette Isabelle" is another favorite! How I can still remember the words is a mystery to me.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 16, 2023 01:33 PM (FEVMW)

215 It will soon be five years since we moved out of Houston. Only an hour away but it is a night and day difference. Today was the annual Truck Day Parade benefitting Toy 4 Tots. About 40 Semis and a lot more smaller trucks of every type rolled down Mechanic Street. Last week was the Christmas Parade that rolls down our that same main street. It was at least an hour long. We celebrate Veterans Day and every school has a program. Memorial Day has every cemetery fully polished with flags and flowers for all veterans.

We brought our grandkids out the visit the Battleship Texas last year before they moved it to Galveston for restoration. My mom told me stories of Texas kids throughout the state collecting nickels to go for the purchase of that ship after WWII and it remains a Texas possession. A grandson had finished 7th grade that year and taking them to the San Jacinto Battleground and Monument had him reciting more Texas history than I could believe.

Get out of the cities if you can.

Posted by: DanMan at December 16, 2023 01:39 PM (8uzBS)

216 Yes, Tom Servo, "Un Flambeau, Jeanette Isabelle" is another favorite! How I can still remember the words is a mystery to me.
Posted by: Art Rondelet
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In recent years, it has become one of my favorites. This is curious since it was not (for me) one of the familar carols of my youth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 01:40 PM (XeU6L)

217 Morticia, I am not aware of anything of that sort coming from Koch family. They donate to MIT.

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:40 PM (V13WU)

218 Here's a nice instrumental version:
https://youtu.be/967MKP923CQ

Posted by: Jeanette Isabella at December 16, 2023 01:41 PM (NBVIP)

219 other colleges and universities too, but when we are talking about hundreds of millions, that would be MIT

Posted by: runner at December 16, 2023 01:42 PM (V13WU)

220 >>If you are aren't buying old books, start now!

wow! Just this week I told DanMa'am to keep an eye out for a set of pre-1980 encyclopedias!

Posted by: DanMan at December 16, 2023 01:43 PM (8uzBS)

221 As awful as it is to see the push for indoctrination in the schools, it's also a sign of hope. The various groups who were becoming mainstream - to use their own phrase "out and proud" - exposed themselves for parents to see.

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Posted by: NaughtyPine at December 16, 2023 01:32 PM (fxCK2)

Yeah, that's basically where I am. But parents (and grandparents) have to take action about it. More than they seem to be doing now.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 16, 2023 01:44 PM (QBaJw)

222 I just don't think Bill Ackman and all the law firms that are planning to skip recruitment events on the Harvard campus (but are still willing to hire Harvard law school grads) are anywhere near as aware or active as they need to be. Runner, have the Koch brothers said anything about Hamasvard or the plagiarist?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 16, 2023 01:32 PM (lCaJd)

David's not saying much these days. He died a couple of years ago.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 16, 2023 01:48 PM (d1mAO)

223 If there's one thing that the new experts in education don't want, it's children grounded in and informed by history and old books.

I'm all for old books. Like "War is a Racket" by Butler. And the Anti-Federalist Papers. Are we talking those old books ?

No, I'll bet you are not.

Posted by: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me at December 16, 2023 01:56 PM (p+Efp)

224 Just this week I told DanMa'am to keep an eye out for a set of pre-1980 encyclopedias!
Posted by: DanMan
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I have a complete 1989 set. 33(?) volumes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 16, 2023 01:56 PM (XeU6L)

225 Harvard Aims to Reduce Jews to 1-2% of Student Population

-But that's only a temporary solution.

"They thought they were burying us, but they were planting seeds"

Posted by: waepnedmann at December 16, 2023 02:00 PM (fgKxS)

226 If you haven't, listen to CJN Speaks

Posted by: Skip at December 16, 2023 02:21 PM (fwDg9)

227 America threw more preventative "mental health resources" at Gen Z than at any generation prior.

No. Not "Americans". Late stage Baby Boomers. Gen X isn't in charge of that money. Millennials are not in control of that money.

Who bitches the most about participation trophies ? Baby Boomers. And how made them ? Baby Boomers.

Posted by: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me at December 16, 2023 02:33 PM (p+Efp)

228 Posted by: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me at December 16, 2023 01:56 PM (p+Efp)

Also not talking about Mein Kampf or The Communist Manifesto.

Posted by: Drive By redo at December 16, 2023 03:00 PM (PCUPG)

229 Also not talking about Mein Kampf or The Communist Manifesto.

Out talk the books, instead of banning them. Easy enough, they are nonsense.

Folks here, for as long as I've been here, have certain problems with Capitalism and Freedom. And the Anti-Federalist papers.

Be a cold day in Hell before I'd ban Mein Kampf. Or all the history that led up to it. I'd teach it every day.

Posted by: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me at December 16, 2023 03:19 PM (4OOMF)

230 No. Not "Americans". Late stage Baby Boomers. Gen X isn't in charge of that money. Millennials are not in control of that money.

Who bitches the most about participation trophies ? Baby Boomers. And how made them ? Baby Boomers.
Posted by: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me at December 16, 2023 02:33 PM (p+Efp)

We just can’t stomach talking about people as individuals anymore, can we?,

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 16, 2023 04:04 PM (FgV+x)

231
We've been cheated
Been mistreated
When will we be loved
We've been put down
We've been pushed 'round
When will we be loved
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 16, 2023 01:20 PM (FVME7)

Only when y’all are gone.

Posted by: Nightwish at December 16, 2023 04:06 PM (FgV+x)

232 Posted by: You Have Got To Be Shitting Me at December 16, 2023 02:33 PM (p+Efp)

You can change your socks, Scogg, but the same tiring stench always emanates from your posts.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 16, 2023 04:10 PM (pJWtt)

233 BeckoningChasm at December 16, 2023 12:26 PM

You may have a point there, but it's a challenge keeping kids with smart phones off social media. It's also hard to keep their parents off social media sometimes. Especially with the tiny kids.

Posted by: KT at December 16, 2023 04:33 PM (rrtZS)

234 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at December 16, 2023 04:10 PM (pJWtt)

Thanks for the confirmation. I thought it was Scogg, but since some people think that I believe every new poster is Scogg, I thought I'd wait and see if somebody else confirmed it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 04:49 PM (RSbhh)

235 The child is looking out of a prison formed by Reading, Writing, Arithmetic, and the Bible.

Yeah? Have another look!
That book is ARITHMATIC. Go, look and see it.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 16, 2023 05:05 PM (FCs/J)

236 FenelonSpoke at December 16, 2023 11:33 AM

Nice idea. Even the stories of some of the hymn writers are worth telling.

One reason I didn't include a sung version of the first hymn here is that the words of various versions differ. People have different versions in their heads.

Posted by: KT at December 16, 2023 08:50 PM (rrtZS)

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