December 23, 2009

"F" Obama: Is Race The Only Thing Keeping This President From Being Rated The Worst Ever?

No, you won't see it on White House organ MSNBC, the dinosaur media, or CNN, but the British have noticed that despite the fact our arrogant neophyte gives himself a grade of "B+" for his first year in office, the American people gave him an F:

Barack Obama gave himself a B+ on Oprah Winfrey's White House Christmas Special on ABC, but the American public is far less generous. The latest influential Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll of likely US voters gives Obama a thumping 56 percent disapproval rating – an F grade by any measure. 46 percent strongly disapprove of the president’s job performance, while just 25 percent strongly approve. That’s a Presidential Approval Index rating of -21 percentage points, a staggering figure for a president just 11 months into his term of office.

These are historically low approval ratings for a US president, that concur with those released by several other pollsters, including NBC News/Wall Street Journal, who recently reported a 47 percent approval for Obama, and Quinnipiac and Marist, both at 46 percent.

The article then goes on to cite specific examples of just how bad fairs in comparison to other post-war Presidents (hint: not good), but what was really intriguing were the comments associated with the article.

The Telegraph is a UK paper and presumably most of the comments are therefore left by Brits and they are excoriating Obama's Presidency.

Among the more interesting claims was this one:

It is really far worse when you look at the breakdowns. Obama's STRONGLY disapproval is over 52% among the crucial swing independent voters and his strongly approve is only 47% among Democrats. When you consider that 98% of blacks still approve of his performance, and if they weren’t basically making their judgement on race alone, his actual approval amongst non-racially biased voters is close to a dismal 40%.

Are there any polling experts out there able to pass judgment on the accuracy of that claim?

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 10:07 AM | Comments (24) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

1 I have to admit, I'm surprised that Black Americans would continue to support the man simply because he's black...or half-black, take your pick. I have many black friends and neighbors and, in speaking with them candidly about O Bomber, most of them readily admit he's made a ton of mistakes - especially in picking the powerful members of his administration. They seem to feel that he should be "given more time" to fix all that ails America. At the very same time, I've noticed the "Obama-Biden" bumper stickers coming off their vehicles at a record pace.

At the rate he's going, we may not have anywhere near enough time left! With deficit spending alone, it will take at least four generations to pay the tab - and that's only if he quit spending today. God knows he plans on spending trillions more. And that's in just ONE term.

Posted by: Dell at December 23, 2009 10:38 AM (LpD4b)

2 I had heard that support from blacks was down to 90%, but not sure where I saw it .

Posted by: Kevin at December 23, 2009 11:51 AM (FDaFm)

3 I think I saw that too. Gallup had him at around 90 in black voters in july and november. I'm not sure what the breakdown is now.

Posted by: MANstreammedia at December 23, 2009 12:00 PM (5q/vg)

4 His mixed race heritage is the only reason he won, so it's no wonder some folks continue to support him because of it.

Posted by: arb at December 23, 2009 12:21 PM (AHLGS)

5 William Jefferson - Randall "Duke" Cunningham

Crooked felons who deserve every minute of jail time they got. I could care less that one of them is white and the other black. They're BOTH crooks!

I judge our elected leaders the exact same way...including the President. What I have trouble understanding, I guess, is why others don't.

And, given the pure numbers, I don't think it was the "Black vote" that got him elected. Millions of Independent voters came to his rescue in the critical states where major electoral college votes are gleaned. They helped, certainly, but the Independent vote in key states was the difference.

Posted by: Dell at December 23, 2009 12:40 PM (LpD4b)

6 Dell - really?

Remember a large majority of blacks wanted OJ simpson aquitted. It would be hard to exaggerate the amount of racism displayed by blacks.

Posted by: bandit at December 23, 2009 01:06 PM (/R+6i)

7 Dell

From my perspective, race was virtually the only reason Obama was elected. While he was reasonably gifted when speaking from a prepared text, his ad hoc responses were very poor. His inconsistent policy pronouncements and incredibly self-aggrandizing persona (greek columns and claiming the seas will now recede??!!) should have sunk his presidential bid.

But the combination of white guilt and black bigotry provided the winning margin. While black bigotry & tribalism will probably not go away for many years, I suspect the white guilt is over with.

Posted by: iconoclast at December 23, 2009 01:22 PM (O8ebz)

8 It is not merely the high level of approval from African-Americans that distorts Obama's ratings upwards. There are no doubt many non-blacks who in fact "disapprove" but are reluctant to say so either because they are "rooting for him" as the first black president, or because they find it socially unacceptable to disapprove. Note that in Rasmussen there are 10% of likely voters who disapprove but not strongly, while 20% approve but not strongly. You would expect a symmetrical distribution. This suggests that some of the non-strong approvers really disapprove (perhaps not strongly) but don't want to say so, even to a robocall.

Posted by: Mahon at December 23, 2009 05:07 PM (hPOpf)

9 Telegraph is an awesome newspaper and they often cover American events more throughly than our MSM does; however, FYI, Telegraph is the British equivalent of FOX news.
Not in a bad way but it is a Tory(conservative)- leaning paper frequently read & commented on by Americans. There are lots of Brits there as well, but many of those comments may be from U.S. readers.
Check out Gerald Warner's Telegraph blog for even more Obama-blistering commentary!

Posted by: Slveryder at December 23, 2009 05:20 PM (lWEvg)

10 I hope Obama is planning his exit strategy, because he is NOT getting reelected. With approval ratings like this, he is already a lame duck.

Posted by: Pat at December 23, 2009 06:15 PM (sHdW0)

11 As far as I'm concerned, giving himself a B+ is proof of the study that showed incompetent people overrated their competence.

Posted by: wheels at December 24, 2009 04:30 PM (AvSW+)

12 I don't know how much more tone-deaf Obama can be. My sense of it is that he has about three more months before he retreats into the White House under a deluge of hostile disapproval running up to the 2010 elections.

After that, his only role will be ceremonial and reduced to vetoing Republican legislation.

If I read it right, Obama will be America's first one-term black president, as if race has anything whatsoever to do with it.

Posted by: bobdog at December 24, 2009 05:49 PM (SKEgy)

13 "F" Obama.

Sounds like a bumper sticker.

Posted by: SicSemperTyrannus at December 28, 2009 12:34 PM (EAESv)

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Sometimes You Feel Like a Nut...

...And if so, this lady is for you:

Kristy Lee Roshia, 35, was charged with threatening a family member of the president and assaulting a federal agent after being arrested Saturday less than two miles from the Kailua home where the Obama family planned to stay during a holiday visit later this week.

Roshia called the Secret Service's Boston office last month and told a receptionist, "I will kill Michelle Obama" and "I will kill Marines," according to a Secret Service affidavit.

During the same call, she said she would "blow away" Michelle Obama, the document states.

A message left at the federal public defender's office in Honolulu was not immediately returned.

Roshia has a history of leaving rambling messages and sending poems, love letters and photographs of herself to the Secret Service, according to the affidavit.

As early as 2004, she told the agency that "although her mission is to assassinate the president, she has no desire to hurt him," the document states.

As Obama wasn't a blip on anyone's radar in 2004, we can only assume she was sending death threats throughout the Bush Presidency as well, and that the Secret Service simply didn't consider her any sort of a credible threat until she traveled to Hawaii.

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Build-A-Bear Tries to Terrify Kids With Climate Change in Cartoon

Be sure to read the entire article by Maura Flynn at Big Government for the background and the transcript, but if you want to cut to the case, jump to 1:07 in the video below.

Any company that tries to scare the crap out of kids and put the thought in their heads that Christmas might not be coming because of [insert cause here] deserves to go out of business, just on the general principle that it isn't okay to terrorize children.

If you're irritated about this—and I can't imagine any reason any parent wouldn't be—you can dash off an email to the company by clicking this link.

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December 22, 2009

Americans Strongly Opposed to Taxpayer-Funded Abortion in Democrat's Senate Bill

The American people overwhelming don't want to pay for abortions with the tax dollars Democratic Senators want to extort from them, a fact reflected in the 72 - 23 split in the latest Quinnipiac University national poll.

As the Senate prepares to vote on health care reform, American voters "mostly disapprove" of the plan 53 - 36 percent and disapprove 56 - 38 percent of President Barack Obama's handling of the health care issue, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

Voters also oppose 72 - 23 percent using any public money in the health care overhaul to pay for abortions, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

[snip]

"While the Senate leadership reportedly has the votes to pass a health care overhaul plan this week, outside the Beltway there appears to be weak support, both to what voters understand as the plan, and the need to pass that plan now," said Brown. "Although a small majority favors abortion rights, allowing the use of public money for the procedure under a national health care plan, which has been a matter of some dispute in both houses of Congress, is extremely unpopular."

A super-majority of Americans do not want to pay for procedures that many equate to the murder of an innocent child. If Democrats continue to try to ram through such heinous legislation against the will of the American people, they have only themselves to blame for all they will lose as a result.

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Camouflage FAIL

The British are breaking out a new camouflage pattern for the first time in 40 years, as their standard issue DPM (Disrupted Pattern Material) isn't faring well in the varied terrain of Afghanistan, where soldiers have to shift from sun-washed arid desert backdrops to the deeper and darker colors of lush green river valleys within the same mission. Instead of helping hide British troops, their current uniforms were making them stand out. The new uniforms, however, won't hide the poor material support British soldiers are otherwise receiving.

The new pattern is based upon Crye Multicam, a pattern originally developed for the U.S Army that was shelved in favor of the digital Universal Camouflage Pattern (UCP) currently being worn by the Army... which is the same pattern that is failing American soldiers in Afghanistan.

Now the U.S Army is taking a second look at Multicam, along with different and darker version of the current UCP.

My advice?

Better start stocking up on the discount flecktarn camo from your local Army/Navy store, before Uncle Sam recognizes the deal and buys it all up.

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Tyranny in the Senate

Via the John McCormack and Erik Ercikson this morning comes the disturbing news that the Democrat-controlled Senate is moving—unconstitutionally—to impede or entirely block any future Congress from repealing the Independent Medicare Advisory Board—the death panel Democrats claim doesn't exist—created by Harry Reid's health care rationing bill.

The language of Section 3403 seems rather explicit:

SUBSECTION.—It shall not be in order in the Senate or the House of Representatives to consider any bill, resolution, amendment, or conference report that would repeal or otherwise change this subsection.

Ed Morrissey's take is that Congress lacks the Constitutional authority to bind the decisions future Congresses can make, which would including passing new laws, amending existing laws, or repealing laws. Reid is demanding not just power over the current Congress, but any future Congress as well.

Democrats deny that the death panels exist, but then take explicit steps that undermine the Constitution to make them unaccountable and untouchable.

Erickson says in his post that we are no longer a nation of laws, and cites the Declaration of Independence.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We are not yet to the point where a rebellion against or a separation from the current government is necessary, but those in power seem amazingly fixated on pushing this nation towards having to make that decision.

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Another Police Ambush in Washington State

Here we go again:

Two Pierce County deputies were "basically ambushed" Monday night when responding to a domestic violence call near Eatonville, about an hour south of Seattle, a sheriff's spokesman said.

It was the third apparent police ambush in Western Washington since Oct. 31. Eight deputies or officers were shot in those cases; five fatally. Investigators say the incidents are unrelated.

Police said the latest shooter, identified as David Edward Crable, 35, was shot and killed during the incident, which happened shortly after 9 p.m. in the 34300 block of Tanwax Court East.

One deputy was flown to Harborview Medical Center in Seattle and was in critical condition Tuesday morning. The other was rushed to Madigan Army Medical Center and was upgraded to serious condition early Tuesday, Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said.

Some of the officers that worked the case of four officers murdered in a coffee shop ambush several weeks ago are also working this crime scene.

In sharp contrast to the coffee shop ambush, however, in this instance the daughter and brother of the shooter apparently risked their lives to drag one of the wounded deputies to safety and begin first aid. Family members and friends of Maurice Clemmons helped him evade law enforcement even after they knew he gunned down officers in cold blood.

Note: I removed the word "Fatal" from the headline. While the suspect that ambushed the officers did in fact die during the attack, the headline could easily have misconstrued as meaning that the law enforcement officers seriously injured in this attack were killed at that time.

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December 21, 2009

How Dare You Wish Our Klansman to Die! Die, Rethuglican!

It seems our friends on the political left are all but soiling themselves over a post I wrote last night, where I wished West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd to do his nation a favor and go into the light before the Senate votes to destroy the American health care system.

Matt Yglesias seems to think my musings are on par with that of a senator, and his friends Andrew Sullivan are attempting to claim that I speak for the entire political right. Not to be out-done, Larisa Alexandrovna chose to weave in a comparison to a anti-gay dog-park stalkerette in an effort to demonize Christians as well.

While I'm flattered by their attention, I suspect they've overestimated my political clout or my ability to accurately serve as a totem of whichever particular group they'd like to demonize today.

I take full responsibility for posting a blog entry that calls for Senator Robert Byrd to die at a politically-convenient moment, and I won't attempt to walk it back and pretend that I said or meant anything else. I still would find it quite convenient if the senior Senator from Pangea expired prior to the Senate Democratic plot to force through rushed, potentially catastrophic legislation.

But much to the (assured) dismay of of these critics and others, I can only claim to speak for myself.

Likewise, I will not assume that the dozens of comments and emails sent to me by the readers of these sites are representative of the sentiments that these bloggers would publicly profess.

I've found the enraged responses of some of my detractors (primarily in the form of emails and comments) to be mildly amusing. By saying that they wish me to die for posting my preference for Byrd's timely demise, they've exposed the fact that they are entirely comfortable with calling for someone's death over politics.

They just lack the intellectual honesty to admit it.

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Is There a Breaking Point?

To say that the American political landscape has become highly polarized is to describe our nation's current state of affairs mildly. Debates over health care, climate change, the economy, terrorism and war have revealed increasingly great divides not just between the radicals on the left and right, but the vast rift between the citizenry and a political class that seems to fancy itself as a permanent ruling class.

The debate over health care is just one example how radically different the left and right view the essence of the United States. The widening gap between the will of people of this nation and actions of our elected representatives is an example of this gaping void.

Conservatives, moderates, and independents are overwhelmingly against the current rushed scheme of Obamacare, where votes are purchased with publicly-funded bribes, with one senator reaching into our wallets to pay off the vote of another. The American people wold rather no vote pass than a rushed hidden bill that no Senator has read, but the political class doesn't care. The big debate in Congress and the Senate between Democrats and Republicans isn't specifically against stealing our tax dollars, but instead over how much to steal, and how long they think they can tax us before we break as a nation or revolt.

We all read blogs (or you wouldn't be here) and follow news stories from the major media, many of which have comment sections. Increasingly, calls to violence and cries for revolt are becoming more commonplace. People rightly fear a federal government that seems to be usurping our freedoms at a great pace, and with a growing appetite.

The very government feeding on this corruption has responded by labeling those who feel this way as fringe extremists, and attempts to marginalize them. It appears that the rhetoric will only get worse on both sides... but will it stop at rhetoric?

As we are all well aware, there has been a tremendous surge in the sale of firearms and ammunition that started in mid to late 2008. Part of the reason for the surge is a growing desire for personal security at a time where the economy is faltering and criminal activity is on the rise. But a significant number of the firearms being purchased—and much of the ammunition being hoarded—are potentially military in nature. Semi-automatic rifles based upon the world's most popular military arms are sold out in many locations, and those stores with access to AR-15 and AK-47 clones are busy filling orders for customers that don't even seem to blink at the premium prices these firearms demand.

In a time where the real unemployment rate is north of 17% (and the official number is still more than 10%), people are buying weapons that regularly approach or exceed $1,000, only to follow that up by stockpiling thousand-round cases of ammunition. It is a pattern that has continued now for more than a year, and shows only little sign of slowing.

Americans are armed to the teeth, are increasingly marginalized by their government, and rightly fearful of the sweeping changes being pushed with a breakneck pace by legislators who don't even bother to read the massive and costly plans for encroachment and expansion they pass. Presently, Democrats are attempting to seize one-sixth of the U.S. economy and put it under government control. Could this massive power grab of the health care system by Democrats trigger violence? Could the economy-killing cap-and-trade legislation become a trigger? Something else?

The simple fact is that it is almost impossible to know the future. No one understands beforehand the precise moments where grumbling dissent becomes open revolt, governments collapse, and nations fall. Nor can anyone predict what kind of state and governance would arise in the aftermath of such an upheaval.

We simply don't know if we are close to a breaking point, because such events are rarely predictable. What we do know is that governments that begin to treat armed citizens as servants are typically faced with the choice of disarming them or being deposed by them. It's been quite a few years since blood has been shed is a major revolt on American soil, but it has happened, and there is no reason to think it will not eventually happen again.

When. Why. How... We simply don't know. But we do know in our guts as a nation we are flowing towards a confrontation, and we can only hope that it stops with a war of words, and the use of ballots instead of bullets.

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Wanted: Dead, or Alive?

If they can't tell the dead from the living, can the anti-gun Violence Policy Center be trusted to get anything right?

In a word, no.

Note: This article was written Dec. 15, and the VPC web site was updated again December 16. They have new information... but can you trust it?

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December 20, 2009

All I Want Is A Byrd Dropping For Christmas

Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) has seen far better days, and is often little more than a warm body when he is helped into the Senate. Granted, lucidity and coherence is not a priority among Senate Democrats, but Byrd is an embarrassment even for a party that regular drafts the imaginary or dead to vote.

Robert Byrd has been around a very long time, and his many decades of service have made West Virginia a wonderful state in which to manufacture methamphetamine or frame the locals for murder*. But it's time for Senator to do the right thing, and expire.

It isn't too much to ask for Byrd to step off for that great klavern in the sky before the Senate vote that may force this nation to accept government-rationed health care. Even a nice coma would do.

Without his frail, Gollum-like body being wheeled into the Senate's chambers to cast the deciding vote, the Senate cannot curse our children and grandchildren with crushing debt and rationed, substandard healthcare.

I suppose some will be shocked and appalled that I'd wish for the former kleagle to die on command. I'd remind them that the party wheeling in a near invalid to vote in favor of this unread monstrosity of a bill is the one that should feel shame.

12-21 Update: Dana Milbank of the Washington Post notes I'm not the only person to think this way with the lede of his most recent op-ed:

Going into Monday morning's crucial Senate vote on health-care legislation, Republican chances for defeating the bill had come down to a last, macabre hope. They needed one Democratic senator to die -- or at least become incapacitated.

At 4 p.m. Sunday afternoon -- nine hours before the 1 a.m. vote that would effectively clinch the legislation's passage -- Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) went to the Senate floor to propose a prayer. "What the American people ought to pray is that somebody can't make the vote tonight," he said. "That's what they ought to pray."

It was difficult to escape the conclusion that Coburn was referring to the 92-year-old, wheelchair-bound Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.V.) who has been in and out of hospitals and lay at home ailing. It would not be easy for Byrd to get out of bed in the wee hours with deep snow on the ground and ice on the roads -- but without his vote, Democrats wouldn't have the 60 they needed.

Final Update: Some amusing revelations about our liberal visitors.

* As noted by a commenter, the death of the census worker that left-wing bloggers blamed on right-wing extremists (but that was actually a suicide banking on the predictable left-wing hysteria for an insurance payoff) occurred in Kentucky, not West Virginia. My apologies.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 09:46 PM | Comments (139) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

1 If the bill passes, Byrd should be forced to live by it. I'll take "Death Panels" for $500, Alex.

Posted by: arb at December 20, 2009 10:07 PM (CznUh)

2 NATIONAL STRIKE JAN 20, 2010 to coincide w/ STATE OF UNION SPEECH NATIONWIDE STRIKE over Obamacare...

Call into work sick. Buy nothing. Find a union hall, congress creature office, State or Federal building and form picket lines. Come ready to party...

NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE! Put that right back in their face!

NATIONAL STRIKE JAN 20, 2010 to coincide w/ STATE OF UNION SPEECH NATIONWIDE STRIKE over Obamacare...TAKE BACK AMERICA!

If the left wants grassroots movements, then by God let us give it to them!...

Posted by: Toaster 802 at December 20, 2009 10:55 PM (8YJVR)

3 Oh my gosh...my side hurts so bad from cracking up at your post. Every sentence a classroom of comedy. Good work.

Posted by: Eric at December 20, 2009 11:14 PM (5ixpM)

4 ...and little lost if he does.

Posted by: kahr40 at December 20, 2009 11:23 PM (EgGZI)

5 Don't feel bad, I wished the same on Strom Thurmond and that drooling mental turnip Ronald Reagan for many. Only the good die young...

Posted by: majorarse at December 20, 2009 11:31 PM (LgpMF)

6 He'd be doing his country a greater service than he's ever done.

Plus, imagine the nutroots going ape-s**t if he were to keel over. 'Twould be a joy to behold.

Posted by: Russ at December 20, 2009 11:31 PM (UHp/e)

7 Those of us who support Universal Health care for all Americans are praying, too. We're praying that Senator Byrd will hang in there for just a few more days.

I'm not totally pleased with this bill, either. However, it's a start. Hopefully, within a few more years we'll have a completely government funded health care insurance program that will ensure that ALL Americans have affordable, cradle to grave health care, with a government funded insurance program that pays private providers, (For the most part)to deliver health care in America. Of course, payments to these providers, especially specialists and over priced hospitals will controlled, taking into account the greed factor. Oh, Doctors will still make a good living, as they should. However, the demise of the health insurance companies, hopefully, is in the foreseeable future.

Sure, it'll take a while. But we'll get there. It's inevitable. The only question is will it happen before the current system crashes or will it happen as a result of the meltdown of the current system that will occur as the current parasitic system destroys itself.

One step at a time............I have a dream!!

Posted by: Dude at December 20, 2009 11:32 PM (5gxhz)

8 Is it too much to ask that Senator Kleagle take some of his most ardent fans with him?

Posted by: Dr. Horrible at December 20, 2009 11:56 PM (Dj4BX)

9 Excuse me Bob Owens sir, is this a joke? It doesn't appear to be, and it certainly crosses a line. Unworthy thoughts, kept private, should be dealt with in private. They should not be published. While I can certainly sympathize with the frustration and anger, I am obligated to condemn the public expression of such a wish. It is wrong.

You will not exact vengeance on,
or bear any sort of grudge against,
the members of your race,
but will love your neighbor as yourself.

Leviticus 19:18

Please consider how Bush 43 treated his elder:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1811211/posts

http://www.hinzsightreport.com/dave/dave-040207.html

Let our thoughts, words and deeds be guided by H-s presence, and lead us to greater understanding.

Best regards, Peter Warner.

Posted by: Peter Warner at December 21, 2009 12:35 AM (JRnGT)

10 Over the line. You should think again.

Posted by: RNB at December 21, 2009 07:19 AM (lSJnL)

11 No big surpise really that they would drag out Klansman Bob to vote. This is the same party that brought Patrick Kennedy out of rehad so he could vote on the Cap and Trade bill in the house.

Dems truly are the big tent party. Their tent has room for klansman, murderers, drug addicts, plagiarizers, race hustlers, and tax cheats.

Tarheel Repub Out!

Posted by: Tarheel Repub at December 21, 2009 07:28 AM (prDeJ)

12 While Senator Byrd should be the poster child for term limits, publicly wishing death on your pponent is truly bad form. this blog loses respect from many by such a deed, and ads fodder to the liberal flame fanning against conservatives in general. You give them fuel for their media sponsored attacks on "right wing whacko's".

Farewell.

Posted by: DavidB at December 21, 2009 07:37 AM (GirPy)

13 Dude said "demise of the health insurance companies, hopefully is in the foreseeable future"

This is classic liberal/Progressive/Leftist dim speech. 60% of the health insurance market is controlled by non-profits and the remaining have the second lowest return on equity of any American industry. If someone has no insurance, or cannot buy it, why blame the insurer's if the medical profession decides not to do pro-bono work?

Insurer's must make certain premiums are adequate to remain in business. Simply look at Medicare to see that this constraint does not apply to a government only plan. A government only plan will become a colossal new entitlement, and with the debt of Medicare about to pull this country under, the last thing needed is the entire population piled ontop. Are Leftist's totally blinded by ideology that rational thought cannot get inside the head?

Posted by: Rick at December 21, 2009 10:04 AM (GmIEI)

14 Hopefully, within a few more years we'll have a completely government funded health care insurance program that will ensure that ALL Americans have affordable, cradle to grave health care, and state mandated abortions for the poor.

I may have changed that last line to match your position.

I don't think the current bill has a mandate for forced abortions, and that's why Dude, and so many Libs think it falls short.

I'm not totally pleased with this bill, either. However, it's a start.

Democrats/Libs sure do love the KKK, and burning churhes of their political opponents, and abortion.

Posted by: brando at December 21, 2009 10:07 AM (IPGju)

15 Hey Dude, I see you no longer post on "man-made" global warming/climate change issues. Why is that?

Posted by: Rick at December 21, 2009 10:14 AM (GmIEI)

16 I hate to say it but in order to get a return of control of the government to the people, we may have to wish that a number of established politicians meet an untimely end. Have you tried to contact your senator or congressman lately? They aren't listening or responding. My senator in Landrieu and she has turned her phones off. Even the press can't contact her. She will come up for re-election in 5 years and by that time the government will have figured out how to get the Katrina people back here and she will win again.

Dude, as a physician, I do wish that you get the national health care that you so desire. The only problem is that a number of innocent people will be stuck with it as well. Then I want you to post about how great it is. Not too many in other countries brag about how good it is to wait 6 months for necessary procedures or to be put on death list or to sit in filty facilities. But hopefully you will find this superior to what we have.

Posted by: David at December 21, 2009 12:05 PM (PpoBw)

17 David:

"I hate to say it..."

Suuuuuurrre you do. And if that "untimely end" is met as the result of some reader of right-wing blogs, some newfound Jim David Adkisson, grabbing a gun or a bomb and helping that "untimely end" along, you'll be sure to put on your frowny-face for the cameras and pronounce yourself shocked, I tell you SHOCKED.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 21, 2009 03:19 PM (FouTu)

18 Huh. Well that's despicable.

Posted by: Aaron at December 21, 2009 04:23 PM (b8kAS)

19 Wow. Thank God for people like you because your hatefulness will help keep the more responsible Democrats in power for years to come. Keep representin' ya'll.

Posted by: td at December 21, 2009 04:32 PM (at0Df)

20 Sure had a different opinion when it came to Cheney:
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/225864.php

Stay classy

Posted by: BarneyG2000 at December 21, 2009 04:40 PM (/wFfm)

21 Score another one for "compassionate conservatives".

Posted by: Tom Woolf at December 21, 2009 04:41 PM (1WxQk)

22 Good Lord -- where were all you hyperventilating asshats from January 2001 to January 2009? The left constantly wished for the deaths of not only the President and Vice-President, but thousands of US servicemen. Hoping that a Klansmen shuffles off to his long-overdue final reward is nothing compared to that.

And when leftists turned that rhetoric into actions -- shooting policemen and planting bombs -- what did you do? Call for the left to calm the rhetoric?

Posted by: Rob Crawford at December 21, 2009 04:43 PM (ZJ/un)

23 Yeah, those liberal dems are such racists. Kinda counter-intuitive, but so many brilliant ideas issuing forth from the right are counter-intuitive these days, if not positively surreal - like a melted clock in a Dali painting. Like Obama not being born in America, being a socialist, wanting to take away guns, hating white people, etc, etc....
Must suck to be on the wrong side of history. Sends normally lucid people completely over the edge...

Posted by: Petruk at December 21, 2009 04:53 PM (M4qlD)

24 Hey Rob Crawford,
As for shooting policemen - seems like the right has the monopoly on that particular style of political discourse , as they do on blowing up daycare centers in federal buildings.

But I don't want to let reality intrude into your fantasy life.
Cheers.

Posted by: petruk at December 21, 2009 04:59 PM (M4qlD)

25 any reason you deleted my post? can't take criticism? $5 trillion added to the national debt during Bush 43 and nary a word from conservatives. Where was the outrage then?? hypocrites!

Posted by: Patrick at December 21, 2009 05:03 PM (1WxQk)

26 Sorry, forgot to mention the PA story - the right wing killer of police officers is named Richard Poplawski. Google him.

Posted by: petruk at December 21, 2009 05:03 PM (M4qlD)

27 Byrd has more class and dignity in his little finger than a hundred of you so called conservatives.

Posted by: beaker at December 21, 2009 05:06 PM (WxkLz)

28 Grousing about Klansman Bob on a site called "Confederate Yankee" is like complaining about Jesse Helms's anti-Semitism on a site called "Nazi Zionist."

At least Byrd recanted his former beliefs. I think some folks in here probably long for the real "death panels" of old, when that meant a tree, a rope, the "rapist," and some beer.

Posted by: Gramsci at December 21, 2009 05:07 PM (f1aGO)

29 Sorry, but the Senate and the nation had to put up with that unreconstructed bigot and rapist Strom Thurmond until he croaked. You now have to put up with Sen. Byrd in the exact same way. Sauce for the goose....

Posted by: theod at December 21, 2009 05:33 PM (p74f0)

30 Rob Crawford: Good Lord -- where were all you hyperventilating asshats from January 2001 to January 2009? The left constantly wished for the deaths of not only the President and Vice-President, but thousands of US servicemen.

Someone expressed these wishes on the Senate floor? When? And do point out those senators and reps who were wishing for the death of "thousands of US servicemen."

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 21, 2009 05:35 PM (pnlG4)

31 Shame on you. Really, you have so little regard for civil debate that you wish for someone to die? Your mother would be ashamed of you. And you should think long and hard about the kind of person you are. God help an empty, bitter heart like yours.

Posted by: Rebecca Farwell at December 21, 2009 05:58 PM (5ryV7)

32 Pamela, I do remember leftist demonstrators with signs picturing Bush's head on a pike and leftist signs encouraging soldiers to shoot their officers. I remember Democrat Senators & Reps voting for the Iraq war, then immediately after the election turning against it. I remember Democrat Senator Dick Durbin, on the Senate floor, describing our soldiers as "in the order of Pol Pot" and Senator Harry Ried saying "this war is lost", in an attempt to turn the citizens against the administration. Don't you remember this? Where were you?

During the GW Bush years the Democrats successful modus operandi to regain power was a continious distortion of the truth and an undermining of the war effort by shaking the citizens confidence in its government. It worked, so don't be suprised by the anger of the people.

Posted by: Rick at December 21, 2009 06:09 PM (GmIEI)

33 Pam,

The highest levels of the left regularly consort with terrorists and terrorist supporters... all the way to the White House.

Posted by: bombs away at December 21, 2009 06:14 PM (WjpSC)

34 Rick of 12/21 at 6:09PM takes no responsibility for the Rick that posted at 6:04PM!

Posted by: Rick at December 21, 2009 06:16 PM (GmIEI)

35 Wow, I am astounded at the forces here working for Satan, proposing that people die, or attacking our great country. The Great Deceiver has a lot of tools on the right, and they will all suffer for their evil in the afterlife. I'll pray for you.

Posted by: coyote at December 21, 2009 06:31 PM (ZMUsq)

36 Keep bringing in old ’sheets’ Byrd. Maybe he will croak one of these days under stress and improve America by eliminating one more racist Democrat. Hopefully that will happen before this abomination of a health care bill makes it through the Senate....

Posted by: iconoclast at December 21, 2009 06:33 PM (zKViF)

37 Rick: I do remember leftist demonstrators with signs picturing Bush's head on a pike and leftist signs encouraging soldiers to shoot their officers.

And where the people carrying these signs Senators? Reps?

Rick: I remember Democrat Senators & Reps voting for the Iraq war, then immediately after the election turning against it.

And this equates to wishing American soldiers dead...how?

DD: I remember Democrat Senator Dick Durbin, on the Senate floor, describing our soldiers as "in the order of Pol Pot" and Senator Harry Ried saying "this war is lost", in an attempt to turn the citizens against the administration. Don't you remember this? Where were you?

Sure, I remember Dick Durbin quite aptly pointing out that torture was torture whether committed by Americans or Pol Pot. remember Harry Reid saying something like that. What I don't get is how you figure this and Harry Reid saying "the war is lost" to wishing for the death of American soldiers.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 21, 2009 06:34 PM (pnlG4)

38 Wow. I thought the racist left was supposed to have died out long ago, but speak ill of a Klansman and they come out in force to defend him.

Posted by: anon at December 21, 2009 06:37 PM (WjpSC)

39 Sure, I remember Dick Durbin quite aptly pointing out that torture was torture whether committed by Americans or Pol Pot. remember Harry Reid saying something like that. What I don't get is how you figure this and Harry Reid saying "the war is lost" to wishing for the death of American soldiers.
Posted by Pamela Troy at December 21, 2009 06:34 PM

Well, since there was no torture, what was done in our defense to the genocide of Pol Pot was the worst sort of moral equivalency. The kind where the person who uttered that should be forced to live in someplace like Cambodia and experience real genocide and torture.

As for helping out our enemies by claiming (incorrectly) "the war was lost" in order to gain political power is the essence of modern Democrats.

All of you deserve to be exiled or worse.

Posted by: iconoclast at December 21, 2009 06:41 PM (zKViF)

40 Personally, I suspect that the Henry Bowman solution-train is rapidly approaching the station.

Posted by: emdfl at December 21, 2009 06:44 PM (JrBtW)

41 Iconoclast: Well, since there was no torture...

And disagreeing with you about torture equates to wishing our troops dead...how?

Saying "the war is lost" equates to wishing American troops dead...how?

Iconoclast: All of you deserve to be exiled or worse.

Given your attitude towards people who disagree with you (you want to see us tortured, exiled or "worse"), you must be a BIG fan of the old USSR's approach to dissent.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 21, 2009 06:50 PM (pnlG4)

42 Pamela,

Either you or I read Crawford's post wrong. He, nor I, alleged that Senators and Reps wished Americans dead or were the people carrying signs, but rather this outstandingly bad behavior came from the Left.

Equating US soldiers to the genocide comitted by Pol Pot is OK by you?

Posted by: Rick at December 21, 2009 07:09 PM (GmIEI)

43 David - "I do wish that you get the national health care that you so desire. The only problem is that a number of innocent people will be stuck with it as well."

Yeah, we don't want "innocent" Americans getting any of that "free" health-care like they get in prison...that would be awful...

And Rick, you a damned liar. Produce some proof of leftest signs "encouraging soldiers to shoot their officers." What a petty little men you wingnuts are...

Posted by: elmo at December 21, 2009 07:24 PM (YPXj+)

44 Pamela,

I see what you are referring to, however this was only the conclusion liberal journalist Dana Milbank of the Washington Post came to rather than the actual words of Senator Coburn. Senator Coburn is an excellent human being, extremely intelligent, and not that dumb to have referred to the frail health of Byrd.

Posted by: Rick at December 21, 2009 07:25 PM (GmIEI)

45 Rick: He, nor I, alleged that Senators and Reps wished Americans dead or were the people carrying signs, but rather this outstandingly bad behavior came from the Left.

And yet, that "outstandingly bad behavior" on the part of the left was not echoed on the floor of the Senate by Democratic politicians.

Rick: Equating US soldiers to the genocide comitted by Pol Pot is OK by you?

No. Accusing US soldiers of "genocide" would not be okay, because I've seen no indication that they are committing "genocide."

Equating the use of sleep deprivation, humiliation, and stress positions against prisoners by American forces with the use of sleep deprivation, humiliation, and stress positions against prisoners by the Third Reich, the USSR, and Pol Pot's regime IS okay with me because frankly, I see no difference between an American soldier using these forms of torture and a German, Soviet, or Cambodian soldier doing so.

If you do see a difference, by all means, explain it to me, along with a disquisition on Solzhenitsyn's chapter on torture in the Gulag Archipelago, and how the sleep deprivation, stress positions, and humiliation he described as torture weren't REALLY torture.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 21, 2009 07:27 PM (pnlG4)

46 Yo, Confederate Dude. The Census worker who hung himself and tried to "frame the locals," as you say, was in Kentucky, not West Virginia. That's like a whole different state. (And not the western part of Virginia either, which is also another state.) I know all hillbillies look alike to you Yankees but as a native West Virginian I am offended by your sloppy grasp of redneck geography.

Posted by: Jerry Bowles at December 21, 2009 08:21 PM (ZbK63)

47 Jerry Bowels,
Your being offended is a righteous event. Those who despise virtue should spend every minute of their lives offended.

Posted by: ccoffer at December 21, 2009 11:07 PM (56T3Q)

48 hilarious, i just had this thought today and sorta felt bad about until i stumbled on this post. new convert in the building. bookmarked and see you tomorrow.

Posted by: Randy Broskie at December 22, 2009 12:28 AM (cZdpS)

49 TWO WORDS:

STROM THURMOND

Posted by: Greydog at December 22, 2009 03:45 AM (le+y+)

50 What a picture to include with that story. It's always nice to watch The Party Of Tolerance lock arms with "their conscience in the Senate" when he breaks into song for his favorite yuletide classic "I'm Dreaming of a White Power Christmas".

Posted by: Brian at December 22, 2009 07:32 AM (S84gI)

51 elmo, search for those pictures yourself. They were out for all to see, and if you're not up with it thats your problem.

Posted by: Ricl at December 22, 2009 08:30 AM (GmIEI)

52 Pamela,

Sorry for the delayed response, but at age 74 I need more sleep than a young chick like you.

Again, Senator Coburn did not refer to Byrd, that was the conclusion of the WashPo reporter! Please read my post at 7:25PM



You probably think you can impress me with the use of Solzhenitsyn"s "The Gulag Archipelago" 19-18-1956 An Experiment in Literary Investigation I-II - Harper & Row. I read the book about 20 years ago and have now retrieved it from my book case. I assume you refer to PART I chapter 3 The Interrogation that begins on page 93.

Pamela, If you do not realize sleep deprivation, stress positions, and "humiliation" are used by all armies in combat, including ours, beginning in the Revolution, Civil, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam and now the War on Terror, you are very naive. The Third Reich (but not the First or Second Reich), the USSR & Pol Pot went much further than those methods of interrogation. I do not consider the methods we used, that were published, torture.

Posted by: Rick at December 22, 2009 09:05 AM (GmIEI)

53 First they lied about death panels, now they wish for people to die.

Typical Republican health care.

You people are evil. Plain, un-christian evil.

Posted by: timpundit at December 22, 2009 09:28 AM (AgR20)

54 Wow, libs really like to state how many words theyr'e going to use as though that will add power to their argument, along with all caps. I'll speak to them in a language they can understand.

FIVE WORDS:
STROM THURMOND WAS A DEMOCRAT

FIVE MORE WORDS:
FRED PHELPS WAS A DEMOCRAT

FIVE MORE WORDS:
DAVID DUKE WAS A DEMOCRAT

But everyone knew that. But most importantly and on topic.

FIVE MORE WORDS:
ROBERT BYRD IS A DEMOCRAT

The Democratic Party and the KKK are locked at the hip. Why are Libs frothing at the mouth to defend these clowns?

Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 09:36 AM (IPGju)

55 rick: Again, Senator Coburn did not refer to Byrd, that was the conclusion of the WashPo reporter! Please read my post at

It's also the conclusion of the writer of this blog, and numerous other right wing outlets. What Coburn did was give a successful shout-out to the base (in every sense of the word) -- who knew exactly what he meant.

rick: You probably think you can impress me with the use of Solzhenitsyn"s "The Gulag Archipelago"...

I cited it because I consider it relevant. I, too, read it when it first came out, initially in the form of that very chapter on torture, excerpted in Harpers. Funny thing. I don't remember anyone on either the right or the left taking issue with Solzhenitsyn's description Sleep Deprivation, etc., as "torture."

In fact, I don't remember ANYONE in this country taking issue with these things as torture -- until the Bush administration decided it was okay to do it.

Rick: Pamela, If you do not realize sleep deprivation, stress positions, and "humiliation" are used by all armies in combat, including ours, beginning in the Revolution, Civil, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam and now the War on Terror, you are very naive.

Do cite some references that indicate these things were institutionalized as the standard treatment of prisoners. Yes, there were instances of torture, but they were NOT policy and NOT considered acceptable treatment of our POWs.

So you figure Solzhentisyn was a big ol' naive sissy crybaby? The USSR got really unfair treatment in his book?

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 12:12 PM (FouTu)

56 Brando: FIVE WORDS: STROM THURMOND WAS A DEMOCRAT

Until the Democratic Party's support of Black Civil Rights became too much for him. Then he became a Republican.

Brando: FIVE MORE WORDS:FRED PHELPS WAS A DEMOCRAT

Yep. And Ted Bundy was a Republican. Shall we pelt each other with nasty people who happened to be in one of the two major political parties?

Brando: FIVE MORE WORDS: DAVID DUKE WAS A DEMOCRAT

Initially, but he seemed to have a wee bit of trouble actually getting Democrats to vote for him when he ran for office. He had MUCH more success when he switched to the Republican Party and successfully ran for the Louisiana Legislature in a special election. He was popular enough among Republicans to serve as the Republican Party Chair in St. Tammany Parish.

brando: FIVE MORE WORDS: ROBERT BYRD IS A DEMOCRAT

Yes. He is.

brando: The Democratic Party and the KKK are locked at the hip.

Not for over a century. No, it's the REPUBLICAN party that has the problem weeding out unreconstructed Klansmen like David Duke, and the Republican party that decided to make itself appealing to the Dixiecrats in the wake of the Civil Rights movement.

Learn some history, for God's sake.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 12:23 PM (FouTu)

57 Pamela,

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

bye

Posted by: Rick at December 22, 2009 12:35 PM (GmIEI)

58 LOL! Gee. You run away mighty fast for an old guy.

Run, Rick, Run!

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 12:41 PM (FouTu)

59 Pamela, thems fiten words young chick!

I'm not going to get into a female mind warp regarding the definition of "severe pain and suffering" under the United Nations Convention Against Torture.

Posted by: Rick at December 22, 2009 01:58 PM (GmIEI)

60 Rick:

You're not going to grapple with the facts I've cited. You can't.

For someone who's in his seventies, you sure know little about history.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 02:07 PM (FouTu)

61 Pamela, what facts are you referring to?

Posted by: Rick at December 22, 2009 02:12 PM (GmIEI)

62 You are a sick, sick person. One day someone you care about is going to be gravely ill (it happens to all of us at one point or another), and you are going to reflect on the horrible things you have said today about another human being, and you are going to regret this moment greatly.

Posted by: Will at December 22, 2009 02:15 PM (nHiSI)

63 didn't even read the commentary. Just wanted to praise Robert Byrd. He's an awesome senator who's done great work in Congress.

Shame on you for wishing for his death -- over politics.

Remember, liberal is the new normal in America. Conservatives don't have a party and the republicans are nutty.

Posted by: D Norman at December 22, 2009 02:30 PM (tnOY3)

64 Pamela, did you flee the scene?

Posted by: Rick at December 22, 2009 02:53 PM (GmIEI)

65 Nope. Didn't "flee the scene."" Just busy this time of year.

The facts I've cited so far in this thread include the fact that the US's past policy on POWs not include torturing them) them, Solzhenitsyn's description of sleep deprivation, stress positions and humiliation as torture (which went unchallenged by anyone on either the right or the left) and the Republican Party's "Southern Strategy," which attracted the likes of Jesse Helms into its ranks marked its final departure as the "Party of Lincoln."

What facts have you cited?

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 03:36 PM (FouTu)

66 Ok, Bob. How about you NOT delete posts you don't like. If you do, you are hiding behind a fail intellect. No free exchange of opinion?

Basic fact: You called for the death of a national politician and there are wing-nuts out there who will read too much into this statement. You may not intend it, but it happens. Take more care and be a human being before posting such outlandish, attention-seeking drivel.

You do a disservice to all conservatives.

Posted by: PoliSci 101 at December 22, 2009 03:47 PM (Yi1At)

67 Pamela, you're a racist. I said nothing wrong, cause I'm awesome. You owe me, (and many others) a heartfelt apology. Chanting "Learn History" to anyone who isn't a racist is your deal, but it shouldn't be. Learn history? Really? Show me (using facts, not lies), how I'm wrong. When you can't, you must prostrate yourself before me on behalf of the KKK. You might owe Rick one too, because you promised that he ran away.

Make it good. Not one of these modern "sorry if you misunderstood" type of deals. Let's see, I'll give you till the end of the day. I think that's a pretty good deal for you.

Hey Polisci, how about you DO read the comment policy? Then you won't need hide behind a fail intellect.

Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 03:59 PM (IPGju)

68 Pamela, our get together began on your response to that Rob Crawford post at 4:43pm and my negligence in not understanding where you were coming from regarding Coburn's statement. The facts remain that Coburn did not mention Byrd's name and it is only supposition that he was referring to Byrd. You might think he was, I might also, but the fact is we really don't know. He might have been referring to the hope that any Democrat Senator would not show for the vote.

How we slid into torture and the like I'm not sure and don't care to revisit that, only to say the definition of "severe pain and suffering" is in the eye of the beholder and that hind sight is usually 20-20.

It is an oversimplification, entirely incorrect, and a devious attempt to bring race into the subject by making the statement "because the Republicans created the Southern Strategy that marked the final departure as the Party of Lincoln". I do not declare that the Democrat Party remains the party of slavery because David Duke is a Democrat or that Senator Byrd, a former KKK member, on national TV utterred the "N" word a few years ago. I could charge that the Democrat Party ruined the black race with the addiction to welfare and so called entitlements. If I wanted to be as reckless as you were, could charge it was purposely done for on going Democrat votes. But I will not.

This episode with you was a pleasure.

Hope the best for you!

Posted by: Rick at December 22, 2009 04:39 PM (GmIEI)

69 what has this world come to that we wish someone would die to advance your own cause. This is a shameful way to go, and you know, I do understand. When lie's don't work, than you have to wish physical harm. That has always been the Right's way. I don't agree with this health care plan either, but I don't want anyone to die so I can get my way. My 3 year old daughter knows this. Why don't you? The dirt on the bottom of my shoe has more brains and sense than you do.

Posted by: TJ at December 22, 2009 05:27 PM (Cq56W)

70 One more thing. How is this Obama care when he has not written anything in this bill. This is Senate care at it's finest.

Posted by: TJ at December 22, 2009 05:30 PM (Cq56W)

71 "but I don't want anyone to die so I can get my way" - TJ

Anyone?

You're heard of Bin Laden, right? You want to live right? You would wouldn't want a terrorist to die, even if you would live?

Your 3 year old daughter loves terrorism just like you? Really? Please don't teach her that. I command you to stop doing that.

"The dirt on the bottom of my shoe has more brains and sense than you do."

Dirt is not sentient you goon.

That has always been the Right's Left's way.

There I fixed that for you.

Your boy, David Edward Crable, had an epic fail yesterday. Just simmer down.

Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 05:49 PM (IPGju)

72 Well, at least one group took Sen. Coburn seriously and prayed for Sen Byrd's death.

A caller into C-Span reported this his prayer group had "took Dr. Coburn's instructions and prayed real hard that Senator Byrd that he would die and couldn't show up".

Nothing like leadership to bring out the best in people...

(video)

http://www.motleymoose.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=2132

Posted by: Chris Blask at December 22, 2009 08:26 PM (VXpFc)

73 Brando: Pamela, you're a racist. I said nothing wrong, cause I'm awesome...

Oh, I see. You're one of those sad souls who's not actually interested in making sense.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 10:17 PM (FouTu)

74 Rick: How we slid into torture and the like I'm not sure and don't care to revisit that,

You "don't care to revisit that" because you know as well as I do that the subject came up when you brought up Dick Durban's equating Americans torturing prisoners with Nazis/Russians/Khmer Rouge torturing prisoners.

Rick: the definition of "severe pain and suffering" is in the eye of the beholder and that hind sight is usually 20-20.

Baloney. If you're truly in your seventies, you're old enough to know that the definition of torture was not considered that blurry when the Soviets were accused of doing it, or when the Cambodians did it, or when the Nazis did it.

Rock: I could charge that the Democrat Party ruined the black race with the addiction to welfare and so called entitlements.

Well, now THAT'S a nice little glimpse of your view of black Americans. They're all "addict(ed) to welfare and so-called entitlements."

Just a more verbose way for you to accuse them of being "shiftless and lazy" -- which are the terms the racists of my youth would have used.

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 10:28 PM (FouTu)

75 I love conservatives -- just so you understand --Byrd apologized many years ago for his Klan years. The church burners all joined the party of racism -- The Republican Party. Wishing this man dead is disgusting.

Why you support the real death panels where the Ins Industry sits and kills people to deny benefits to enhance profits and bonuses? You sit there and support the party that lets business rape you because you oppose abortion -- you are all funny sad people.

Posted by: NotConservadumb at December 23, 2009 02:36 AM (s0Aur)

76 Pamela, it's difficult having an exchange with you. Like a typical liberal you deceitfully pretend to get the wrong impression and digress. That results in pointless additional exchanges.

You understand exactly what I meant. I must say, however, you're not the usual obtuse type.

Posted by: Rick at December 23, 2009 07:49 AM (GmIEI)

77 Rick: What "wrong impression" do you imagine I am pretending to have? How is it wrong?

Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 23, 2009 11:55 AM (FouTu)

78 I, for one I'm asking Santa for earplugs - I am so tired of listening to all your inane bickering.

How to win an argument in modern day America:
1) Do not listen to anything your opponent may say as he/she must be a moron if they disagree.
2) Inform opponent of their status as a moron, shouting as much as possible to drown out any possibility of rational discourse.
3) Insult opponents' family, race, or country of origin.
4) If opponent capitulates then claim moral high ground. Otherwise repeat steps 1-3.

Sigh.

Posted by: Jamie S at December 24, 2009 05:20 AM (yWkwi)

79 I find it ironic that someone so "pro-life" wishes death on another who has spent the majority of his adult life serving the country. Fanning the flames of ill-will and hatred only got the country into the mess it is today. While I don't agree with everything that Obama and the Dems are doing, they are working tirelessly to improve the quality of life overall for all Americans, and even when this was Bush Country, I didn't hear any of the Dems wishing death on their opponents. I take that as a sign of class, maturity, and reason. Grow up.

Posted by: Kristin Rogers at December 24, 2009 03:54 PM (qfGDO)

80 There's lots of criticism of CY (including those calling for his violent death), but NOT ONE WORD against nutroots all-star Olbermann for screaming for Joe Leiberman to commit suicide.

Libs aren'r remotely against people dying over politics. They just don't want those dead to be their own.

Posted by: GG at December 24, 2009 04:19 PM (WjpSC)

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Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 10:42 AM | Comments (15) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

It Is Time To Treat Climategate As A Crime

A Russian claim that the Hadley Center for Climate Change tampered with Russian climate data—which would gut the validity of the data provided by the CRU and NOAA/NASA, which was used in turn by the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change—was released during a most contentious time during the Copenhagen conference, with the obvious intent of causing the widest possible damage.

That doesn't mean in any way that the claim is anything other than accurate.

...On Tuesday, the Moscow-based Institute of Economic Analysis (IEA) issued a report claiming that the Hadley Center for Climate Change based at the headquarters of the British Meteorological Office in Exeter (Devon, England) had probably tampered with Russian-climate data.

The IEA believes that Russian meteorological-station data did not substantiate the anthropogenic global-warming theory. Analysts say Russian meteorological stations cover most of the country's territory, and that the Hadley Center had used data submitted by only 25% of such stations in its reports. Over 40% of Russian territory was not included in global-temperature calculations for some other reasons, rather than the lack of meteorological stations and observations.
The data of stations located in areas not listed in the Hadley Climate Research Unit Temperature UK (HadCRUT) survey often does not show any substantial warming in the late 20th century and the early 21st century.

The HadCRUT database includes specific stations providing incomplete data and highlighting the global-warming process, rather than stations facilitating uninterrupted observations.

On the whole, climatologists use the incomplete findings of meteorological stations far more often than those providing complete observations.
IEA analysts say climatologists use the data of stations located in large populated centers that are influenced by the urban-warming effect more frequently than the correct data of remote stations.

In short, the Russians are claiming that the Hadley CRU cherry-picked and manipulated data, essentially faking the appearance of temperature change across Russian territory.

This seems entirely consistent with previous revelations discovered when the East Anglia CRU hack triggered Climategate by showing behind the scenes attempts by climatologists and their computer programmers to manipulate data and then cover up both their manipulations and real but conflicting data.

If the Russia's can prove their claims, then this will be another compelling argument that the climatological community is part of the largest scientific fraud in human history. It would also mean that these same untrustworthy scientists have destroyed the credibility of the scientific community, and no doubt severely undercut what we know or think we know about climate change.

Quite simply, we can't trust any of their claims at this point. It seems the claim that man is responsible for global warming or climate change is utterly without credible scientific merit at this point because of the politicization of the process. We simply don't know—can't know—what our impact is on the climate because of their corruption of the data.

I have yet to find anyone with a solid idea of how long it will take to regenerate accurate, scientifically-valid data, and once that data is compiled, it is going to now be a very difficult sell to a world that has seen the scientific community destroy their credibility.

James Delingpole notes that if the Russians are right, "the entire global temperature record used by the IPCC to inform world government policy is a crock."

Thanks to significant willful fraud, we know know that billions"perhaps trillions—of dollars wee about to we wasted, the economies of nations crippled, and the freedoms of billions of people usurped or curtailed.

This apparently widespread fraud, collusion, attempted coverup and attempts at political manipulation should be regarded and legally viewed as treason. If it can be proven that any individual scientist or group of scientists willfully corrupted the data, they should face jail time up to and including life in prison. If they willfully corrupted the data and then took steps in a conspiracy to hide their manipulation, up to or including destroying the real data, the doctored data, or their models, they should face the possibility of execution. Any politician, policymaker, or advocate that was privy to these schemes should also face the same, sobering sentences.

I'm not overstating the seriousness of these crimes. The climate change community attempted to make victims out of the entire human race.

It's time to begin the criminal investigations that will be needed to put them on trial.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 10:40 AM | Comments (27) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

December 15, 2009

So... Sully Isn't Sully?

Apparently, Andrew Sullivan's blog isn't solely his work, and turns out to have been a group blog largely ghost-written by two other people.

I'm not sure if I find any solace at all in discovering that his logical inconsistencies and bizarre fixations are instead part of a group psychosis.

How about you?

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 10:58 AM | Comments (20) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

1 Stopped reading him ages ago. Not worth my time.

Posted by: garrettc at December 15, 2009 11:14 AM (DQjJA)

2 Well, there's strength in numbers, after all. I'm sure with such a strong delusion he must pay people to tell him he's being reasonable and misunderstood.

Posted by: Joan of Argghh! at December 15, 2009 11:41 AM (aBEdy)

3 A totally irrelevant writer and he has been for many moons. Haven't bothered with his diatribe in as long. Not surprised it's a "circle jerk" sort of blog. I am surprised he has friends.

Posted by: Dell at December 15, 2009 12:00 PM (9e3Rq)

4 Will the discovery cause bloggers (e.g.present company) from trying to drive traffic to her?

On the other hand, my list of "must read" blogs is a lot shorter than it used to be. (used to be that I had to read quite a few to get the big picture. Now, I read one and find out what all the rest have written about.

Sad,really.

Posted by: Larry Sheldon at December 15, 2009 12:24 PM (OmeRL)

5 It's all good, he stewed in his juices. And Andy gave himself a B+.

Posted by: brando at December 15, 2009 12:38 PM (IPGju)

6 Oh, I could tell when it wasn't Sullivan. No one can write the self-congratulatory, narcissistic drool than Andrew Sullivan writes.

What bothers me is that he gets PAID for that junk.

Posted by: Old Rebel at December 15, 2009 03:14 PM (eTIZJ)

7 Damn, I less conservative blog to read.

Tarheel Repub Out!

Posted by: Tarheel Repub at December 15, 2009 03:36 PM (prDeJ)

8 I doubt that "Excitable Andy" really exists at all. I haven't ever seen his birth certificate.

Posted by: Neo at December 15, 2009 04:54 PM (tE8FB)

9 It's Andy's Menage a Trois Blog.

Posted by: zhombre at December 15, 2009 10:01 PM (8mdQg)

10 Wasn't this guy's claim to relevance always that he was the most trafficked one "man" op in the 'verse? That and being a gay "conservative". Looks like, as with all these moronic hoaxes that pervade our politics and media it was based on Big Lie Theory. I don't think even Goebbels would have thought it wise to base so much on BLT though. As we see, when it falls it all falls at once.

Posted by: megapotamus at December 16, 2009 07:58 AM (LWhHe)

11 With Andy, two things were always in the forefront: 1) he was HUGE on gay marriage---putting that issue above all others, even the GWOT; and, 2) it was always apparent his(their?)judgment on individuals was consistently clouded by whether he/they would love to have sex with the individaul they were analyzing! The drooling over the prospect of fellating BHO was palpable!

I stopped reading his/their blog when those two "items" began to predominate serious discussions.

Posted by: Earl T at December 16, 2009 10:22 AM (uokdN)

12 How gobsmackingly vile that you bring this up

Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at December 16, 2009 04:53 PM (MxQFN)

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December 14, 2009

Ohio Man Wanted For Arson, Law-Making

Via Fox8:

Less than 24 hours after the firebombing of the municipal court offices in Mansfield, State, Local and Federal investigators have a suspect they believe is responsible and late Monday were sparing no effort to try and find him.

40-year-old Kevin Dye of Mansfield is wanted for aggravated arson and manufacturing a dangerous ordinance.

Under those same standards, can we get the FBI to move on Capitol Hill and arrest House and Senate Democrats?

(dear editor: the word you were looking for is ordnance)

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 09:47 PM | Comments (12) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

1 I am SO glad you posted the () portion ...I read the "ordinance" section 3 times before my brain forced my eyes lower.

Posted by: PhyCon at December 14, 2009 10:04 PM (x6IK4)

2 Years back I worked for a DC based beltway bandit. While we were working on a project for AF Special Operations Command related to munitions and weapons systems, we had a (DC based naturally) tech editor who insisted on changing every occurrence of "ordnance" to "ordinance" no matter how many times we explained this to her. Since that company didn't allow mere techies to contaminate the output of the highly paid tech editors with our grubby paws, that was the way our documents frequently went to AFSOC. How embarrassing.

Posted by: Keith at December 15, 2009 06:08 AM (jXd6V)

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Shovel Ready

I have to give it to the Democrats: they can create a villain out of thin air at a moment's notice. This time, they decided to finger Joe Liebermann as some sort of a backstabber with renegged on a deal, even though his publicly announced position has never changed, and there is no indication that he had agreed to anything.

This would seem to suggest that the Democratic attempts to take over healthcare are in serious trouble in the Senate. The various schemes may not be dead yet, but they do seem to be in very serious trouble.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 02:16 PM | Comments (17) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

Obama Gives Himself a B+

You know, Mr. President, you may have been following the right path when you decided to keep then American public in the dark regarding your grades, because when they see how you grade yourself, they're all going to laugh at you.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 01:16 PM | Comments (20) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

Beyond Doubt: Iran Working on Nuke Trigger

There is no more point in denial:

Confidential intelligence documents obtained by The Times show that Iran is working on testing a key final component of a nuclear bomb.

The notes, from Iran’s most sensitive military nuclear project, describe a four-year plan to test a neutron initiator, the component of a nuclear bomb that triggers an explosion. Foreign intelligence agencies date them to early 2007, four years after Iran was thought to have suspended its weapons programme...

[snip]

"Although Iran might claim that this work is for civil purposes, there is no civil application," said David Albright, a physicist and president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington, which has analysed hundreds of pages of documents related to the Iranian programme. "This is a very strong indicator of weapons work."

And there is little doubt that when Iran has what they consider "enough" nuclear weapons, they will not be used to deter war, but to trigger Armageddon.

It seems our dithering President has a very simple choice.

He can be remembered as the American President who did nothing, the President that let Iran build nuclear weapons and trigger a nuclear exchange with Israel that killed tens of millions, including hundreds of thousands of American servicemen and civilians in the region. Barack Obama—the man who did nothing and watched the world burn.

Or Obama can be vilified by his left fringe as a warmonger, and try to use military force to deny Iran the last few critical components that separates them from becoming the world's more dangerous nuclear-armed regime.

I don't envy his decision, but given the choices, it still seems to be rather easy one.

Update: Sky News claims it has confirmed the authenticity of the evidence:

Sky News foreign affairs editor Tim Marshall said: "Sources confirm that the document is genuine. However, the Government and the US will be reluctant to wave it about just yet.

"There's three weeks to go until President Obama's end-of-the-year deadline for his policy of engagement with Iran.

"The big push for sanctions will not begin until January. No-one wants to pre-empt that."

Dither, dither, dither...

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 08:09 AM | Comments (14) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

December 12, 2009

Lefty Blogger Jane Hamsher Lobbies For Her Own Death

Jane Hamsher of firedoglake says she has survived breast cancer three times, but she is organizing a campaign against the Susan B. Komen Foundation because, "Hadassah Lieberman – wife of Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT) – is currently a compensated 'Global Ambassador'" for the group.

Why? Because Senator Joe Lieberman stands against the costly and potentially deadly incompetencies in the Senate version of Obamacare. Of course, it runs deeper than that. Hamsher's Lieberman Derangement Syndrome is so bad that she infamously mocked Senator Lieberman in blackface during the last campaign, despite the obvious racial insensitivity of such distasteful displays.

And now Hamsher's hatred of all things Joe Lieberman now extends to his wife—and apparently anyone else facing breast cancer.

Hadassah Lieberman uses her status as the wife of a famous Senator and former Vice Presidential candidate to help wage war against a deadly form of breast cancer, but Hamsher can't let herself see beyond her own anger and hatred of Lieberman. She'd rather Komen waste their time and precious money responding to her frivolous politicized anger and give up a precious asset... all because Hamsher hates the politics of her husband.

That Hamsher is campaigning for an approach to health care that is far more dangerous for people with cancer seems to be irrelevant to her. That she might already be dead if she forced to be a victim of the very socialist medicine she champions simply doesn't seem to matter to this hate-filled ideologue.

Attacking those she hates is far more important for Jane Hamsher than any good work Hadassah Lieberman may do in the fight against breast cancer.

It seems she'd rather die... and put your loved ones at risk as well.

Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 10:16 AM | Comments (23) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)

December 11, 2009

Obama Dithers. Will the Middle East Burn?

The media is trying to ignore reporting on how crazy the Iranian leadership is because reporting the facts would undermine the President's Chamberlainesque foreign policy of doing nothing while Iran seeks to acquire nuclear weapons, weapons that they seem certain to use to trigger a nuclear war.

The MSM wants to give Obama the cover to act surprised if everything between Cairo and Calcutta is erased in a flash, along with several hundred thousand American servicemen and civilians in the region.

I would deny him that excuse, in my latest post at Pajamas Media.

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