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December 11, 2009
Horrors! NT Times Slams CIA/Blackwater for... Poor Project Managment Skills
The New York Times is still deeply involved in fighting the ghosts of President's past, trumpeting the headline, Blackwater Guards Tied to Secret Raids by the C.I.A.
Considering the hype, I was expecting something explosive—maybe they helped snatch potential terrorists off the streets of Cairo, or maybe even here in the U.S.—or at least something mildly titillating.
Instead, the
Times delivers this:
Private security guards from Blackwater Worldwide participated in some of the C.I.A.’s most sensitive activities — clandestine raids with agency officers against people suspected of being insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan and the transporting of detainees, according to former company employees and intelligence officials.
Really? This is the big story? While the confirmation that Blackwater operatives might have participated in raids in combat zones is newsworthy, it isn't exactly surprising, is it? That they've also escorted detainees being transported from one location to another is frankly boring.
But maybe there's more too this story than the lede suggests.
The raids against suspects occurred on an almost nightly basis during the height of the Iraqi insurgency from 2004 to 2006, with Blackwater personnel playing central roles in what company insiders called "snatch and grab" operations, the former employees and current and former intelligence officers said.
Now, that is a bit more interesting. They were engaging almost nightly, and played central roles. The C.I.A. partnering with mercs... sounds like a thousand B-rated action movies, but hey,
I like those.
Let's see what else they've got.
Several former Blackwater guards said that their involvement in the operations became so routine that the lines supposedly dividing the Central Intelligence Agency, the military and Blackwater became blurred. Instead of simply providing security for C.I.A. officers, they say, Blackwater personnel at times became partners in missions to capture or kill militants in Iraq and Afghanistan, a practice that raises questions about the use of guns for hire on the battlefield.
Okay, NYT. You had me, and then you lost me.
If I understand this right, the Blackwater guys weren't originally a planned part of the raids, but were there playing security for the C.I.A. guys much as they did the State Department. At some point, there was the need for an extra active participant or more in the raid, and the Blackwater guys, being former military and
there were the obvious and logical choice to step in.
I can see a logical (and quite human) progression from being an impressed team member who stepped in as part of his overarching mission to protect his principle (which seems to arguably still be within the scope of his assignment), to the more murky and politically problematic
normalized use of Blackwater guards in these missions. There is certainly what the project managers among us with recognize as "scope creep," but the
Times still isn't giving us much meat. Were the guards involved in overwatch roles, setting up a perimeter? Or were they intimately active in the actual door-kicking, room-clearing, Tango-bagging searches themselves? If so, to what extent? Did they shoot anyone the shouldn't have? Did they shoot anyone, at all?
The
Times doesn't tell us. That seems to be a very important distinction to make if the newspaper is going to level charges of wrong-doing. Lacking that, the story seems to fall flat.
Indeed, a close reading of the story leaves the reader more perplexed than informed. The
Times writers certainly set a dark and ominous tone, but what they delivered was anti-climatic.
Other than vague insinuations of wrong-doing and the rehashing of historical events involving the company—stories the paper has already covered
ad nauseum—there seems to be very little actual substance in what the authors present .
Scope creep? Really? That is the big story?
If I didn't know better about the
Times stellar reputation for politics-free, objective reporting, I might be tempted to offer up an allegation of my own. If I were so inclined, I might suggest they were offering up a red herring to their readers... perhaps to distract them from the
sort of things the editors might not want their readers thinking about.
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Somewhat interesting but I notice the lack of citations to laws actually violated.
Posted by: Roy Lofquist at December 11, 2009 04:58 PM (tqRUG)
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This was a very well written article. Great job, CY. I noticed that ABC was running this story on the front page of their website around noon today.
They must have gotten the memo. Their logic is weird.
1. Blackwater doing Security with CIA.
2. ???????
3. Evil!
This garbage would barely pass for a plotline on the syfy channel. Yet it's considered the tops in the MSM.
Posted by: brando at December 11, 2009 06:18 PM (LjEkE)
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The NYT's influence is declining as it reader base declines.Articles like this,resurrecting the evil Bush effigy, are aimed at keeping its loyal liberal readers who expect nothing less than an endless stream of them. You will never ever see any real time "exposes" from the Times as long as Obama is in office. He is giving them the all important early access they lost under Bush. The fire wall between the money men at the NYT and its "journalists" has desolved.
Posted by: mytralman at December 11, 2009 08:18 PM (26p91)
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Once again, children wade into adult territory. what if blackwater was guarding cia operatives and get shot at, than they would have to react. is this part of the "participation" in clandestine missions the nyt seems to be reaching for? just as well, the cia has a long history of partnership with local civilian security in dangerous parts of the world. in the middle east, who would you rather have your back, ex american special forces operatives or your local iraqi gunfighter?Just as well, contractors aren't hamstrung by the multitude rules of engagement that makes the military so ineffective. also, noted is the nugget that the nyt, although they keep on digging, hasn't one iota of proof that blackwater has solely gone in, with guns blazing to kill or snatch and grab terrorists. this seems to be a byline to implant the suggestion of a hypothetical problem of blurring civilian, cia and military duties. once again the nyt has their panties in a bunch over nothing.
with the nyt, you learn to disregard their version of the story and , instead, read it to learn about their agenda. this is just another series of hit pieces on blackwater, of which nyt is at war with, and the agenda is to force congress to investigate and eventually defund the "evil" blackwater. shameful just shameful. instead of trying to bring down blackwater,they should spend a quarter of this research into the activities of acorn-- the center of the hurricane when it comes to graft and corruption.
Posted by: befuddled at December 12, 2009 06:40 AM (BByz2)
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actually the times should go ahead and die all ready.
or become the "pbs" of news print.
that way the mask is off the hag and everyone will know its a leftwing government propaganda tool.
not that everyone with two brain cells doesnt know that allready.
Posted by: rumcrook® at December 12, 2009 10:04 AM (60WiD)
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Rut-Roh. Best NOT to be askin me what I was doin in '04 'round about Baghdadland... might get in trouble!!!!!
Posted by: Big Country at December 12, 2009 11:57 AM (H/RUP)
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I'll really lose sleep over this. NOT.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 12, 2009 05:16 PM (im3Wi)
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Blackwater == mercenaries. Mercs == soulless bastiches who kill for money. Ergo, they're evil. Screw 'em.
The inconvenient fact that the great majority of Blackwater operatives are honorably discharged former members of the United States armed forces is ... irrelevant.
That's how things work in Times-land.
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December 10, 2009
Editor & Publisher Leads By Example
The unreadable and reliably-biased editorship of Greg Mitchell comes to an end.
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There may be short selling opportunities if we can find out what institution Mitchell plans to destroy next.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 11, 2009 03:44 AM (ffu3D)
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Obama's Nobel Peace Prize Speech
I thought President Obama did a stellar job reciting his Nobel Peace Prize speech in Oslo today, and that Presidents Clinton and Bush did an excellent job writing it.
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true lies. he talks of the "right" war, but dithers or completely puts off the important decisions to run the war effectively. he votes in troops post haste only with a strict time line and so conveniently to end the campaign-- not by the results on the ground right but before a major election cycle. he champions the right war, although, time and time again he has voted and agitated to undermine the war effort. obama is by definition a false prophet. don't believe his lies.
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E.J. Dionne Gets His Stupid On
It is usually so depressingly easy to pick apart the pro forma op-eds from Washington Post columnist E.J Dionne that it isn't any fun at all to make the effort, but since his latest, Beyond the NRA's absolutism, is pre-demolished by an article I already wrote last week and the effort is minimal, I may as well go ahead and make the effort.
Dionne complains that a survey of the National Rifle Association's membership found that members polled by Frank Luntz actually went against the NRA's official position on a number of issues.
In his survey of 832 gun owners, including 401 NRA members, Luntz found that 82 percent of NRA members supported "prohibiting people on the terrorist watch lists from purchasing guns." Sixty-nine percent favored "requiring all gun sellers at gun shows to conduct criminal background checks of the people buying guns," and 78 percent backed "requiring gun owners to alert police if their guns are lost or stolen." Among gun owners who did not belong to the NRA, the numbers were even higher.
On the surface and without reflection, these all superficially sound like reasonable ideas and I completely understand why most people would agree.
But if you take away someone's right to purchase a firearm for being on a terrorism watch list, you just tipped off that potential terrorist that he is under investigation.
You've just helped the terrorist. The counterpoint of that, that civil libertarians have been harping on since early in the prior administration, is that these lists are wildly inaccurate, with
even Senators being erroneously tagged a s terrorists in federal lists. Compound that with the fact Americans hate to see a citizen's rights denied without the due process of law, and you have a host of very good reasons for the NRA to dig deeper and oppose an idea that sounds good as a theory, but which is horrible in practice.
Likewise, while I would like to see all gun sellers at gun shows be required to follow the laws that FFL dealers do, including requiring a NICS background check, I know that such restriction would be a fig leaf. Non-dealers would still be able to sell guns outside of the show with no restrictions at all, and no felon would be significantly inconvenienced.
And while I would certainly hope that a citizen would report a stolen weapon, I find the idea of the government compelling citizens to report stolen property of any kind offensive, and I fail to see what reporting a gun as stolen with have any impact on what the criminal does with a stolen gun. It is—again—a law that enables politicians to claim they "did something" without any real benefit.
But what really amuses me about Dionne's whining column is when he shows the innocence of a child—one not burdened with being academically gifted—when he bleats propaganda from the front group, Mayors Against All Guns.
NRA members also oppose the idea behind the so-called Tiahrt amendments passed by Congress. Named for Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), the rules prevent law enforcement officials from having full access to gun trace data from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and require the FBI to destroy certain background-check records after just 24 hours. Talk about handcuffing the police.
The mayors' poll offered respondents this statement, antithetical to the Tiahrt rules: "The federal government should not restrict the police's ability to access, use, and share data that helps them enforce federal, state and local gun laws." Among NRA members, 69 percent agreed.
As it turns out, the group—largely self-financed by anti-gun New York RINO Michael Bloomberg—
blatantly lies about the Tiahrt Amendment, and what it does, while also obfuscating the fact that the BATF and Fraternal Order of Police want the law kept in place to protect the lives of police officers and informants.
I'm having a hard time to find who is more repulsive here. Is it Dionne for his intellectual laziness, or Bloomberg for his continued dishonesty?
It's a big world.
I think we have the space to revile them both.
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Here's an idea for Mr. Dionne:
People on terrorist watch-lists should be prohibited from flying, except under the direct supervision of an air marshal.
Something tells me that would be going too far for Mr. Dionne.
Posted by: Lurking Observer at December 10, 2009 01:39 PM (lt/wV)
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Senators have been tagged on terrorist lists? Isn't that a bit redundant?
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Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 11, 2009 03:41 AM (ffu3D)
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I would be willing to bet that *every* one of those questions was specifically worded as to push the agenda of the gun-grabbers. You don't get numbers that high without some severe warping of the question.
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Thank God for Incompetence
A would-be murderer missed his teacher twice before jamming an almost unjammable gun:
A community college student was upset about his grades when he walked into a classroom and fired two shots at his professor before his new rifle jammed, police said Wednesday.
Jason M. Hamilton, 20, was unable to continue shooting at mathematics professor Tatyana Kravchuk, who ducked behind a desk and was not hit, Prince William County police Maj. Ray Colgan said. No one was injured.
"Probably what prevented a further tragedy was that the gun jammed," Colgan said.
Hamilton bought the Marlin .30-06 bolt-action rifle Monday at a Dick's Sporting Goods store near the campus, police said.
There isn't any political angle to this story, just a failed human being looking to take out his frustration on someone else, unsurprisingly finding he's incompetent at that as well.
I suspect, however, that he'll excel as a prison girlfriend.
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I suspect, however, that he'll excel as a prison girlfriend.
Ain't that just a pain in the ass.
Posted by: ArmedGeek at December 10, 2009 10:08 AM (cE5v5)
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How do you jam a bolt action?
Posted by: David at December 10, 2009 10:16 AM (PpoBw)
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@David
How do you jam a bolt action?
Well .. it requires a certain level in mental deficiency ...
Posted by: Dan Irving at December 10, 2009 10:51 AM (3BHyc)
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Shorter CY: "Yay rape!"
Posted by: beetroot at December 10, 2009 11:03 AM (vzU4z)
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How do you jam a bolt action?
David, the only thing I can figure is that he short-stroked it and it failed to extract, and then he stove-piped it.
But I'm still at a loss at how you can't clear that in about 1/10th of a second.
Guess he wasn't any more committing to shooting than he was studying.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at December 10, 2009 11:12 AM (gAi9Z)
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You know what I hate about murderers? That they kill people. Other than that, they seem like ok individuals.
Posted by: Kevin at December 10, 2009 03:39 PM (4lutW)
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"Guess he wasn't any more committing to shooting than he was studying." "
I actually laughed out loud at that.
Posted by: brando at December 10, 2009 04:12 PM (IPGju)
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"the only thing I can figure is that he short-stroked it and it failed to extract, and then he stove-piped it."
That's what she said.
Posted by: Michael Scott at December 10, 2009 10:10 PM (mIKPy)
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I bet he gets short and long stroked when he gets up there with the big boys.
Posted by: tjbbpgobIII at December 10, 2009 11:38 PM (8kQ8M)
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His farts won't make a sound after a few weeks in the big house.
Posted by: jackv at December 11, 2009 12:22 AM (T3no8)
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I have a Soviet 91/30 that pretty-much jams every round. I have to give it a good swift hit to close the bolt and and two good smacks to open the bolt and eject the casing... you know, Russian style.
My German Mauser is as smooth as butter. Just a bit of difference in engineering and manufacturing there.
Posted by: Max Entropy at December 11, 2009 02:37 AM (gxlpn)
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How do you jam a bolt action?
Flip the safety on by mistake.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 11, 2009 03:39 AM (ffu3D)
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If there was gunk inside the action (ie a piece of his shirt-tail or storage grease he should have cleaned out, but didn't) it could jam.
But yeah bolt action rifles are as close to 100% reliable as you can get in a repeating weapon.
Posted by: looking closely at December 11, 2009 11:17 AM (YpVHs)
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Probably one of those new Remingtons which jam and won't shoot straight when they don't jam.
YMMV
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Ice Rubes Upset With Obama, But They Have Only Themselves to Blame
Just the latest in along line of arrogant gaffes:
"The American president is acting like an elephant in a porcelain shop," said Norwegian public-relations expert Rune Morck-Wergeland. "In Norwegian culture, it's very important to keep an agreement. We're religious about that, and Obama's actions have been clumsy. You just don't say no to an invitation from a European king. Maybe Obama's advisers are not very educated about European culture, but he is coming off as rude, even if he doesn’t mean to."
It isn't that complicated to understand. When someone is given an award or honor they clearly don't earn, it holds little meaning for them—it is a devalued trinket, and little more.
The Nobel committee whored itself to the unearned image of a political pop-star.
They do not deserve to be surprised or offended when he acts like one.
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You mean Norway's king wasn't on Obama's "bowing tour?"
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Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at December 10, 2009 09:13 AM (vh+HM)
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OMG! You mean that Obama doesn't value the Nobel Peace Prize?
Well, he shouldn't worry. His accomplishments will surly equal Arrafats, so the bar really is set pretty low.
Posted by: Jack at December 10, 2009 09:42 AM (bvDV5)
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When the award was announced, you can totally believe there was a meeting of the minds to determine "what the Hell do we do now?". It was decided that turning down the award (the fraud would never turn down ANY award) was out of the question, so the decision was made to grin and bear it; go to Oslo, accept the award, say a few words and then get out of town as quickly and quietly as possible. And that's exactly what has been done.
Lunch with the King??
Like, how many votes will that get me? Besides, I like AF #1 and want to get back on board as quickly as possible. It's a cool ride, man!
Posted by: Dell at December 10, 2009 09:53 AM (Qhytm)
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Dell,
Lunch with the king is part of protocol. Obama has a serious problem with his protocol staff. His bowing and the lack of this lunch could be enough to set off a world war. They have gone to war for less. Don't get in a wad over fighting Europe, I anticipated that response. The fight would be with Russia as they perceive Obama to be weak and stupid.
Posted by: David at December 10, 2009 10:20 AM (PpoBw)
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Of course there is the trend developing that he only snubs those of european descent.
Posted by: RFYoung at December 10, 2009 10:47 AM (WqZCc)
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Obama only grovels to real tyrants and enemies. I am sure the Obami keep trying to explain that to the world.
Posted by: iconoclast at December 10, 2009 01:01 PM (O8ebz)
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I don't expect American presidents to know all the protocol do's and don't of each nation they ever deal with.
I do however expect the State Dept and Whitehouse protocol officers to know that stuff by heart and brief a president so they can act accordingly.
Fire the protocol officers. If they briefed as expected and it was ignored, then fire the COS for the trip who's job it was to smack the president around until he saw the error of his ways.
Obama's crew is behaving like a bunch of barbarians who just walked out of the woods wearing bearskins and wielding stone knives.
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December 09, 2009
Howl
If you have some time to kill, you could amuse yourself by watching various left wing bloggers and pundits try to undermine Sarah Palin's op-ed discussing the politicization of climate change science that appears in today's Washington Post.
The Op-ed, titled "
Copenhagen's political science" contains what appears to be a few rhetorical embellishments and minor factual inaccuracies based upon what we now know, but overall, is more or less accurate.
Climategate and questions about the validity of data sets maintained and possibly manipulated by several other research gatekeepers should be taken very seriously, and the raw data reexamined and opened to public review. Instead, climate change scientists have conspired to hide their data, and in the case of the East Anglia CRU, "lost" their raw data, a
very improbable claim according to career scientists.
Likewise, the code for the CRU's climate modeling software was exposed in the Climategate leak, and reveals that the the modeling of temperature trends was all but fraudulent, and compromised repeatedly by manual "adjustments" designed to provide advocates of anthropogenic global warming the manufactured evidence they desired.
The
outrage on the left was loud and predictable.
Alan Colmes claimed the op-ed was "false and misleading," but instead
bogged down in minutia. Perhaps Palin was incorrect in claim that AGW advocates
deliberately destroyed data, but those scientists were forced to admit admit the raw data was destroyed. The rest of his "evidence" includes an
ad hominem attack from a former
Post correspondent and an attempt at obfuscation by a left-wing think tank over the damage cap-and-trade would do the to economy. The later still included an admission that Palin was essentially right on main basic point, that cap-and-tax would cost American jobs.
Think Progress also
screams in indignation, but does no better a job of explaining why admittedly polarized and deceptive practices lead to science that should be trusted.
Taylor Marsh repeats similarly
unimpressive arguments, and quite unscientific claims that climate change is leading polar bears to cannibalism (simultaneously, other advocates complain that the bears are in danger of extinction even as their population grows).
A survey of progressive blogs responding to Palin's op-ed seem to focus primarily on variations of the argument that:
- the data is accurate and unaltered, but doesn't need to be released to the public
- that the scientists involved have unimpeachable integrity, even though they admit in private emails to attempting to manipulate peer review and data to achieve desired results (which is why the CRU's head has stepped down and others in the cabal are under investigation)
- the data models are accurate, even though programmer's notes in the CRU code reveals it to have been manually corrupted to achieve specific results, thereby corrupting an other models that use the CRU's code or data, as apparently all other significant models used by the United Nations apparently do
If critics of anthropogenic climate change are correct, then billions of lives will be affected and trillions of dollars wasted for a minimal or non-existent impact to the natural process of climate change.
It is therefore only logical to open the raw data to public scrutiny outside of the closed enclaves of pro-AGW theorists so that independent scientists and statisticians can validate the data and conclusions drawn thus far.
If supporters of anthropogenic climate change are correct, then billions of lives will be affected and trillions of dollars must be spent for the most effective impact to reversing anthropogenic climate change.
It is therefore only logical to open the raw data to public scrutiny outside of the closed enclaves of pro-AGW theorists so that independent scientists and statisticians can validate the data and conclusions drawn thus far, in order to establish the best policies and procedures to make sure we do things correctly.
Those that still argue that the science is settled and insist that we must act now are not looking for the best solutions for mankind or the planet. They are opportunists drumming up fears based upon uncertainty, motivated by political or financial gain. They are the ones now howling the loudest, fearing that their mad dash will come to naught.
Such souls should be watched, monitored, investigated, and sentenced appropriately, regardless of station.
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And then they should be charged.
Posted by: Jack at December 09, 2009 02:43 PM (bvDV5)
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In her comments defending the recent endangerment finding on greenhouse gases as a danger to human health, EPA administrator Lisa Jackson said the agency relied heavily on data obtained from the UN’s IPCC. Guess where the IPCC got a lot of its data? You guessed it…the CRU at East Anglia University. I’m not saying, I’m just saying…
Posted by: Tarheel Repub at December 09, 2009 03:15 PM (prDeJ)
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I read Taylor Marsh's column and almost spit out my soda. She figures Palin doesn't care about children because children suffer from asthma and pollution causes asthma. I'm assuming she made the missing mental connection that CO2 is pollution without showing her work, but I'd really like to see the science that shows that CO2 causes asthma. Particularly from one who calls us "anti-science."
Posted by: alwaysfiredup at December 09, 2009 03:20 PM (CZK+U)
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CO2 causes asathma? What a fool. Vaccinations cause autism and impotence too, I bet. These people are 21st century Ludites. It seems a few of us have a better education than these so-called climate scientists. Perhaps they were just educated beyond their intelligence. I wasn't. The crows will soon be home to roost. Karma will be calling on these liars.
Posted by: Odins Acolyte at December 09, 2009 04:01 PM (brIiu)
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Many of these climate scientists have very poor math/statistics skills, a damning lack for a profession that is so based on statistics.
Which is why these climatologist-warmers shriek like children when mathematician/economists like Steve McIntyre and Bjorn Lundgren destroy their models.
AGW is a complete fraud. Nothing new from the Left--everything they promote is a complete fraud.
Posted by: iconoclast at December 09, 2009 06:09 PM (FGCRY)
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global warming is as corrupt and discredited as any theory could possibly be.
that they still attempt to push it after what we've found out shows them to be no better than communist thugs who think they can do anything.
Posted by: I.B. Wright at December 09, 2009 06:11 PM (4G06+)
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Stating that the CRU deliberately destroyed data is NOT an inaccuracy. It is what they did.
Whether they did so in an attempt to prevent others from having access to it, or simply as a result of poor respect for the safe archiving of data is unknown.
Perhaps they thought there really was no need to hold onto the data underlying all their research. That would be stupid and sloppy, but not evidence of malice or conspiracy. But there is no question that they deliberately destroyed it.
Posted by: XBradTC at December 09, 2009 07:20 PM (y0E9v)
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"...there is no question that they deliberately destroyed it."
Posted by: XBradTC at December 9, 2009 07:20 PM
Exactly! I read that when newly-flush-with-funds CRU moved into its swanky new digs, they didn't want to store the data anymore; they didn't want to make room for all the hard copy boxes, etc.
Sooooo, like the true dedicated serious scholarly scientists they are, they just gave it the ol' heave ho into the trash bin.
Records...who needs any stinkin' original records?
Posted by: marybel at December 09, 2009 09:45 PM (Rb2gx)
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Here's a prediction. Once the UK Met begins its recalculation of the 160 year global temps, NOAA/GISS will do the same. There will be a two part race. One will be who can be more/most open. Two will be who can get it done first.
Once the first, open recalculation is completed it will automatically become the "OFFICIAL" global temperature record. All others will be lesser with reducing grant receipts.
Competition is great!
Posted by: CoRev at December 10, 2009 08:06 AM (0U8Ob)
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the US NAvy believes the climate is changing and that the Arctic Ocean will be ice free in the summer http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=64471er by 2030.
The main country financing the climate change deniers is Saudi Arabia. They sell the most oil that is helping to produce this change and one of the countries in the lead in support is Israel who know that their high tech industry can help in the change to a non carbon based energy system
Posted by: John Ryan at December 11, 2009 07:22 AM (m0Q2u)
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John, you link doesn't go to an active article.
But more importantly, I have a very simple question: Where does the navy get their climate data from?
I strongly suspect that the get their data from NASA (compromised) East Anglia CRU (compromised) or one of the other primary data sets, all of which pull from the same pool of shared and suspect data.
Your "argument" isn't an argument, it is an appeal to authority.
Better luck next time.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at December 11, 2009 08:54 AM (gAi9Z)
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December 08, 2009
Krauthammer: EPA Totalitarianism May Leave A "Revolution on the Administration's Hands"
Great. I'd hate to think Americans have been hoarding cases of ammunition and pallets of "assault rifles" for nothing.
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the implied /sarc tag was obvious... I hope.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at December 08, 2009 04:11 PM (gAi9Z)
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It was. Nonetheless, the Hammer has a very good point here.
Posted by: Michael at December 08, 2009 04:19 PM (i+TKG)
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Dismantle the EPA. For our lives and for theirs.
We ain't gonna take it much longer, D.C.
Don't make us come over there.
Posted by: Odins Acolyte at December 08, 2009 04:43 PM (brIiu)
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Krauthammer is only repeating what many are saying right out loud. And more will be saying it over the next several months.
A note to the 53 million voters who sent this fraud to the White House:
How's the rookie doing?
I see your numbers are shrinking. The fraud in the White House now enjoys the lowest approval rating of any president at this stage of his tenure. And you thought "W" was unpopular?
As soon as he spends another trillion or two, he should bottom out at about 20%. It's a shame we didn't get your names and addresses. We could have sent you the tab.
Posted by: Dell at December 08, 2009 05:05 PM (v/6qx)
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Posted by: NikFromNYC at December 08, 2009 06:05 PM (Td5EH)
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I was watching Glen Beck tonight and one of the liberal talking heads is even predicting a revolution. Apparently even the liberals are upset with Washington.
Posted by: David at December 08, 2009 06:54 PM (ZgM5r)
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Had a discussion Monday evening with an Obama voter in our small town grocery line. As he asked for his three packs of cigarettes, I commented "You know, you'd better enjoy those while you can. As soon as government health care is here, we can't afford to let you smoke or drink. Hell, half the stuff we eat won't be legal."
He was a bit affronted at first and denied my suggestion but when the senior citizen behind me pointed out that if they're going to take a half a trillion cut in Medicare, they're sure as hell not gonna let someone else run up costs through excessive lifestyle choices. It's time we get "in your face" with this diminishing group who put this fascist in office. Hold them accountable. I'd prefer some massive shaming to revolution any day and there are quite a few piglets who voted for Obama out of their redistributionist greed who need to be held to account.
Oh and btw... when we're back in power, it's time to kill off NPR and PBS for good.
Posted by: HatlessHessian at December 08, 2009 08:16 PM (7r7wy)
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Love the Hammer, and you too conyank - very funny tag, but you know what they say about good humor needing that element of truth.
Posted by: Jayne at December 08, 2009 10:23 PM (dwIL0)
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what other reason was there to buy them then? everyone knows they aren't any good for hunting, which is the only there's a 2nd Amendment.
/white smoke
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 09, 2009 01:19 AM (d1FhN)
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To a psychologist, climate change looks as if it was designed to be ignored.
It is a global problem, with no obvious villains and no one-step solutions, whose worst effects seem as if they'll befall somebody else at some other time. In short, if someone set out to draw up a problem that people would not care about, one expert on human behavior said, it would look exactly like climate change.
Now they invoke the use of a psychologist to tell us that we are being irrational when it comes to spending a mere few trillions of dollars.
Posted by: Neo at December 09, 2009 07:25 AM (tE8FB)
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It seems I've heard variations of "Come the Revolution" all my life. For the first time I'm beginning to think that it might be possible. This country has always been in tension - but now I fear it's coming to a snapping point.
I hope I'm wrong.
Posted by: NevadaDailySteve at December 09, 2009 09:30 AM (+xi30)
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2010 and 2012 will be interesting election years. Of course, everyone realizes that the "existing contracts" escape clause for Acorn means that Acorn will still provide much of the fraud for the census. That plus illegal immigrant amnesty might be enough to get Obie over the top...
Posted by: iconoclast at December 09, 2009 12:23 PM (O8ebz)
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Revolution? I doubt it. The people who could cause such a thing are out here working our asses off trying to make a living for our families. The other side has all the excess people doing nothing. It would take a disaster of truly epic proportions to make it possible for a revolution. And then survival would be paramount. So I don't see a revolution coming at all. I see something much worse.
Posted by: templar knight at December 09, 2009 02:05 PM (968gv)
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Chuckles is just wishing - - he wants a revolution to come along that puts him in power someplace so he can actually start wars instead of just bleating about how somebody else should. If he thinks "environmentalism is the new socialism," then he's ignorant about both enviromentalism AND socialism.
Posted by: beet at December 09, 2009 03:04 PM (vzU4z)
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nevadadailysteve - I hope you're right. I fear you are wrong. It won't get any easier as time goes on as the collectivists wield all the power. Iconoclast is right about Acorn, the illegals, and then there's all the stimulus slush fund Obama will unleash for 2010 and 2012. There is no other way out of this corrupted and now rigged system but revolution.
Posted by: Jayne at December 09, 2009 03:57 PM (dwIL0)
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In the American Revolution (1st); Only 30% of the population gave a damn who ruled. Too busy keeping alive to care aboiut such. Of that 30% only 3% took part in the fight. All we need is a pissed off three percent. I think we have it. Load up. Get ready.
Posted by: Odins Acolyte at December 09, 2009 04:07 PM (brIiu)
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Hey Odin, once the neo-Revolution is done, who will rule?
Posted by: beet at December 10, 2009 11:05 AM (vzU4z)
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Hey Odin, once the neo-Revolution is done, who will rule?
Hmm, we might try following that old document--the Constitution--for a refreshing change from the lawless juggernaut that comprises the current federal government.
Which means the real revolution will have to be against the SCOTUS, since they seem to be enabling this lawlessness on the part of the Executive and Legislative branches.
Posted by: iconoclast at December 10, 2009 01:04 PM (O8ebz)
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the revolution will not be with guns, since the obama/marxists will be powered up beyond what we mere mortals can acquire. it will be mass resistance, refusal to play the game, work and pay taxes that they piss away to their favored groups: Acorn, "Native Americans", bureaucrats, unions, federal employees, etc.
Posted by: Jayne at December 11, 2009 09:27 PM (dwIL0)
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Marcellus Was Right
Something is rotten in the state of Demark:
The UN Copenhagen climate talks are in disarray today after developing countries reacted furiously to leaked documents that show world leaders will next week be asked to sign an agreement that hands more power to rich countries and sidelines the UN's role in all future climate change negotiations.
The document is also being interpreted by developing countries as setting unequal limits on per capita carbon emissions for developed and developing countries in 2050; meaning that people in rich countries would be permitted to emit nearly twice as much under the proposals.
The so-called Danish text, a secret draft agreement worked on by a group of individuals known as "the circle of commitment" – but understood to include the UK, US and Denmark – has only been shown to a handful of countries since it was finalised this week.
The agreement, leaked to the Guardian, is a departure from the Kyoto protocol's principle that rich nations, which have emitted the bulk of the CO2, should take on firm and binding commitments to reduce greenhouse gases, while poorer nations were not compelled to act. The draft hands effective control of climate change finance to the World Bank; would abandon the Kyoto protocol – the only legally binding treaty that the world has on emissions reductions; and would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions.
What the leak to the
Guardian reveals is that the Obama administration, the Brown government, and unknown co-conspirators know that the Climategate emails and other revelations have severely damaged the credibility of the cause of anthropogenic climate change. They are now fearful that they would fail to ram through the radical changes that they originally desired, and are instead focused on building a coalition of rich nations to adopt a still-radical but less-aggressive agreement that quite frankly guts the support that developing nations that thought they stood to gain from "Hopenhagen," while significantly undercutting their influence at the same time.
But the so-called "Danish text" is far more damning than even the
Guardian lets on.
It conclusively shows that the nations involved in preparing that document don't actually believe that anthropogenic global warming is a threat. If they did, they wouldn't secretly be preparing a document that does less than what their so-called "settled science" says is the absolutely minimum necessary to avoid a global catastrophe.
They're charlatans, and this document is the smoking gun that unmasked anthropogenic climate change as a cynically-motivated bid for power, and nothing more.
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"...would make any money to help poor countries adapt to climate change dependent on them taking a range of actions." As opposed to the current procedure of just direct-depositing the funds into El Presidente's Swiss bank account? No wonder they're outraged!
Posted by: RNB at December 08, 2009 02:57 PM (lSJnL)
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Great analysis. The AGW empire is crumbling.
Posted by: RightKlik at December 08, 2009 03:02 PM (hWQZJ)
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Al Gore (Global Saviour and Time Traveler) ...What we’re seeing is a set of changes worldwide that just make this discussion> over 10-year-old e-mails kind of silly.
last e-mail:
Date: Thu Nov 12 10:18:54 2009
Don't misunderstand Al’s point .. you see Al Gore lives in the future .. sometime around 2019.
Hey, with Al Gore living 10 years into the future, even if Global Warming is ever proven true, we have another 10 years before the window closes.
Posted by: Neo at December 09, 2009 08:18 AM (tE8FB)
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Obama's Prestige, Job Approval Sinking Fast
And down she goes:
President Obama's job approval rating has fallen to 47 percent in the latest Gallup poll, the lowest ever recorded for any president at this point in his term.
The new low comes as Obama enters the home stretch in his push to enact his signature initiative, an overhaul of the nation's health care system, and escalates America's involvement in the Afghanistan war.
That's only a fraction of his problems.
As Obama's blind faith in the anthropogenic climate change cult threatens to decimate what remains of our economy, expect his approval to dive even further beneath the waves. Resistance will deepen against his Administration's
attempts at totalitarianism.
It's just starting to get ugly.
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"It's just starting to get ugly."
You said a mouthful there!! Now just add the famous quote from the fraud in the White House - "You ain't seen nothin' yet!" - and the line would be perfect.
I honestly believe he'll bottom out at about 30% - maybe 35 - and never recover from that level. That 30-35% would be the far-left libtards and those who voted race, rather than qualifications.
Posted by: Dell at December 08, 2009 02:31 PM (v/6qx)
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If he continues to pursue Cap and Trade and advocates for another stimulus there will indeed be a further erosion of his approval rating.
I think he will backpedal on the AGW front but press ahead with another "stimulus package" that is cloaked as a "Jobs bill"...
While I would like to believe that he would bottom out at similar levels as Bush did pre-surge I doubt that the media will continually hammer him like they did Bush...they will continue the mantra - "All is Well...ALL IS WELL!!!"
Posted by: Mick Kraut at December 08, 2009 03:20 PM (NMK3S)
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How about he crashes on the climate bill (and copenhagen) and then uses the tarp funds for his bribes because he can't get another stimulus - not in an election year. After Christmas and the real retail number come out he is not going to get anything in Congress. You are going to see the great scramble for reelection. Or the gloves come off and the real party starts with a real ugly bent!
Posted by: ken at December 08, 2009 07:28 PM (u0FmQ)
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Color me skeptical. How many of those folks are people pissed because he's not ramming the public option down the throats of the reactionary plutocratic class enemies?
I know I disapproved of Bush's whole compassionate conservatism shtick. Didn't mean I wanted Kerry to win in 04. Fact is 40% of the country votes Democrat every year, no matter what. Same vote Republican, no matter what. The 20% who swing are all that matters.
How many dead people, how many people coming from out of state to vote in swing states, how many false identities from ACORN will come out 3 years from now? How many people can have their votes bought with tax dollars? How many folks will vote for the cool guy again?
The lessons of FDR should be clear: FDR didn't win by ending the Depression. The Depression didn't end in his first or second terms. He just bought the votes he needed with tax dollars. It's brilliant. The Democrats used to go around with cash in hand. Now they purchase votes with money that comes from Republicans, Democrats and independents.
The media will still be around in 2012. They'll still be gushing about his rhetoric and his style. They'll launch a thousand smear campaigns on the GOP nominee. Hell, by 2012 the media will be a recipient of bailout money. Think they're going to even be a little bit fair?
The levers of power in a post-industrial society are the media, the bureaucracies, and the academy. Liberals have permanent control over all three. The election of Obama was supposed to be Year Zero, the dawn of a new era. The goal is to permanently shift American politics to a left of center stance. Socialized medicine is they key. Once they control your health, they claim the right to regulate everything about your life.
It's over, they won.
The question is whether to fight or to live out your life as best you can and enjoy the freedom you have before it all is taken away.
Posted by: Britt at December 09, 2009 02:12 AM (DcWbe)
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Stay Classy, Google
I was mildly irked that Google let December 7 pass by without any reference to the anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that plunged us into World War II, but in and of itself, it wasn't a huge deal. Many Web sites chose not to cover the anniversary (including this one), and that is simply a matter of choice.
But when you skip Pearl Harbor, and the very next day
celebrate the birth of E. C. Segar—the creator of Popeye—it comes across as something of a slap in the face to those who fought and died in our first battle of the Second World War.
Corporate marketing departments dole millions in payroll every year to protect their brands. I can only wonder what kind of message Google thought they were delivering here.
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Google routinely omits any American-centered anniversaries or other observations.
Posted by: SicSemperTyrannus at December 08, 2009 10:04 AM (BuYeH)
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Don't be so hard on Google, maybe they just don't have anyone working there who can draw anything supporting America. Maybe they all suffer some sort of disease - call it Democratitis.
Posted by: NevadaDailySteve at December 08, 2009 10:22 AM (+xi30)
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its allways been like that.
google does not consider itself an american company, but an international one.
so honoring america is verboten
Posted by: rumcrook® at December 08, 2009 11:07 AM (60WiD)
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BING had an aerial view of Pearl Harbor on its home page. I quit using Google because of their blatant anti-Americanism. BING it!
Posted by: twolaneflash at December 08, 2009 11:13 AM (svkhS)
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Google also didn't memorialize the dropping of the nuke on Hiroshima or the Oklahoma City bombing. What's up with that???
Or the passing of the Civil Rights Act (or Brown versus the Board of Education).
Posted by: DukeLaw at December 08, 2009 02:33 PM (J5Uxs)
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i too switched to Bing yesterday, and deleted Google from my search engine list, a move i'd been meaning to make for some time.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 09, 2009 01:15 AM (d1FhN)
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Like a few said above, I, too, switched to Bing! on December 7th when I saw Google didn't have a thing to commemorate the attack on Pearl Harbor... but Bing! did. I'm spreading the word.
Posted by: JenBee at December 13, 2009 11:34 AM (RgwT8)
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Beta-Male Throws Tomatoes at Palin, Hits Cop Instead
What kind of outcome did this loser expect?
A man was arrested for throwing tomatoes at Sarah Palin during her book signing on Monday at the Mall of America.
Jeremy Olson, 33, allegedly threw two tomatoes from the second balcony, however did not come close to hitting Palin.
Bloomington Police report that Bloomington Commander Mark Stehlik was struck in the face with one of the tomatoes and may face charges for assaulting a police officer. Olson was booked at the Bloomington jail. He was arrested for suspicion of assault and disorderly conduct.
Even as a best-case scenario, this guy hits Palin with some produce and still ends up in jail. Not a very bright guy.
I'll be very interested to discover if Olsen's attack had political motivations, or if he was just some nut looking for a few moments of infamy.
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I truly think the Left doesn't quite "get" that the concept of civil disobedience actually includes paying the penalty for the laws broken.
Posted by: Stoutcat at December 08, 2009 10:17 AM (kKdtK)
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he's both,
a nut and a left wing political activist.
not only are the two not mutually exclusive, but for the most part go hand in hand.
Posted by: rumcrook® at December 08, 2009 11:09 AM (60WiD)
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That's just cray and rude.
Posted by: Chrystal K. at December 08, 2009 06:39 PM (OvPza)
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Has the "liberal" blogosphere lionized him yet?
Posted by: Donnie at December 10, 2009 11:02 AM (gQ+fY)
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Nuke-Crazed Dwarf Claims America is More Powerful Than Islamic Jesus
At least that is what Ahmadinejad is claiming between his "treatments" at Tehran's Madhi Ali Small Engine Repair and Psychiatric Institute to Dubai-based Al Arabiya.
Ahmadinejad reportedly claims he has documented evidence that the U.S. is blocking the return of Mahdi, the Imam believed by Muslims to be the savior.
"We have documented proof that they believe that a descendant of the prophet of Islam will raise in these parts and he will dry the roots of all injustice in the world," Ahmadinejad said during a speech on Monday, according to Al Arabiya.
"They have devised all these plans to prevent the coming of the Hidden Imam because they know that the Iranian nation is the one that will prepare the grounds for his coming and will be the supporters of his rule," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying.
Ahmadinejad continued the rant by claiming there have been plots by both the West as well as countries in the East to wipe out his country, according to Iranian news Web site Tabak.
"They have planned to annihilate Iran. This is why all policymakers and analysts believe Iran is the true winner in the Middle East," Ahmadinejad was quoted as saying by the site. He also alleged that foreign nations seek to control Iran's oil and natural resources.
For those of you not familiar with Ahmadinejad's religion, he belongs to a radical Shia sub-cult that even
camel-sex-approving Ayatollah Khomeini thought was nuts. The mad dwarf's belief is that his messiah will only return after the world is burned in a cleansing fire, and somehow America is blocking their trip to Paradise. If it sounds to you like someone is laying the groundwork for a mass suicide to put Jonestown to shame, then you are on the right track.
When you understand their belief system is premised on triggering a nuclear war that obliterates their country in order to jump-start their End of Days and trip to Paradise, then you understand why Iran's fanatical leaders are so driven to obtain nuclear weapons.
It also showcases why our ignorant President is running us full-speed towards a nuclear war with his failure to even attempt disarming them preemptively with all necessary measures. Cowardice always leads to greater casualties than standing up for what is right.
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If that belief is correct, if we lit up his nuke facilities wouldn't we hasten the coming of the Mahdi?
President Obama, in the name of Alfred Nobel, usher in a new era of world peace!
Posted by: Amor de Cosmos at December 08, 2009 12:55 AM (C3oJE)
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One of the lessons that the Jews learned from WWII is that when some one says that he is going to kill you, you should believe him.
Law enforcement in the US takes such threats very seriously.
To bad the Obama Administration does not.
Posted by: Jack at December 08, 2009 09:38 AM (bvDV5)
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Damn skippy Ahmadinejad. You are on to us. Us lecherous heathens have designs on your daughters too.
Posted by: Odins Acolyte at December 08, 2009 04:46 PM (brIiu)
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Obama's EPA Declares Naturally-Occurring Air Gases Are "Pollutants;"
Asserts Sweeping Power To Regulate Every Aspect of American Life
These radical left-wing zealots constitute a clear and present danger to our way of life:
The Environmental Protection Agency has concluded greenhouse gases are endangering people's health and must be regulated, signaling that the Obama administration is prepared to contain global warming without congressional action if necessary.
EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson scheduled a news conference for later Monday to announce the so-called endangerment finding, officials told The Associated Press, speaking privately because the announcement had not been made.
In short, the unelected Lisa Jackson—with Barack Obama's blessing—has just declared herself to be more powerful than Congress, laying the groundwork for the Obama Administration to dictate business emissions, vehicle use, energy use, punitive taxes or penalties and even the kind and numbers of livestock that can be raised. Frankly, this declaration would seem to leave the EPA as the most powerful part of the federal government not specifically trained in how best to kill people.
This is underhanded, anti-democratic, and a serious threat to our economy, our way of life, and standard of living.
By the way, Lisa Jackson, you produce CO2 every time you exhale. Be a leader.
You stop first.
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people, you have no idea what this is going to do to the cost of food that you do not grow yourself.
Posted by: bman at December 07, 2009 03:43 PM (Gwbu8)
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I keep coming back to the same thought: this is going to be fun to watch, in a horrid, twisted, slow-motion-train-wreck kind of way. The EPA now has only two choices:
1) refuse to regulate CO2, and be buried under lawsuits from greenie organizations; or
2) try to regulate CO2, and watch power companies (and lots of other businesses, but mostly power companies) go bankrupt en masse because they can't afford to pay all the new fines and fees. This will lead to lots of consumers (VOTERS) shivering in the dark, without any of the modern conveniences that electricity makes possible -- computers, cellphones, cable TV, Internet, fridge, freezer, stove, plumbing...
It won't last.
Posted by: wolfwalker at December 07, 2009 04:41 PM (br8fl)
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Huh? Haven't you been paying attention since this past January?
Once the utilities go bankrupt, Obama and the Dems will simply nationalize them. Then they can be converted to wind, solar, and pixie dust.
They don't work well? I guess we'll have to limit the amount of electricity that's used, and when it's used, in order to make sure everyone has "fair" access to it.
(And don't even think about buying your own generator, b/c they'll generate CO2 as well.)
With the bailed-out press applauding all the way.
Posted by: Lurking Observer at December 07, 2009 05:14 PM (lt/wV)
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the chance of that happening is slim to none as long as the 2nd ammendment is still in operation.
obama has no chance of becoming his hero chavez
I would like these scumbags to stop thier incessant breathing in and out creating the dreaded co2
Posted by: rumcrook® at December 07, 2009 05:24 PM (60WiD)
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This is amazing to watch, just days after the whole globull warming hoax has been debunked instead of backtracking the liberals are doubling down. It's truly bizarre
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at December 07, 2009 05:30 PM (MxQFN)
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Well, if they think C02 needs to be regulated, I'd like to see them try and put a "scrubber" over my mouth and nose.
Posted by: MikeM at December 07, 2009 07:37 PM (30CMs)
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Lurking Observer: Even if they do that, it won't make any difference. I think Stephen den Beste nailed it to the wall in this article at Hot Air. The Jackasses think that wishing will make it so, that if they order the power plants to run under these new restrictions, then the power plants will find a way to do it. But that's not gonna happen. It won't matter if they do a TARP for power companies, or nationalize the power plants outright, or anything. It can't possibly work. It will be a train-wreck. It can be nothing else.
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Posted by: UNRR at December 08, 2009 05:26 AM (2D++g)
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Wolfwalker got it 1/2 right. Lawsuits from the Greens are inevitable. BUT lawsuits from industry and effected others are even more inevitable. Just one Judge putting a stop on the action will be enough to derail this train.
Posted by: CoRev at December 08, 2009 07:50 AM (0U8Ob)
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wolfwalker:
But I think you're missing their point.
In an ideal (for the Left) world, they'd stop the emission of CO2 completely. But if they can't do that, bankrupting the utilities and taking them over is the next best thing.
B/c then they get to take them over.
And if it's a train-wreck, well, it will be blamed on the utilities, the corporations, etc.
Think about Kucinich and how he "managed" the Cleveland utility when he was mayor.
Or CA's power deregulation, where the state forbade long-term contracts, forcing utilities onto the spot market, then blamed the utilities when prices went through the roof.
A combination of overweening desire for power and an utter disdain (and ignorance) of fundamental economics is a scary combination.
Posted by: Lurking Observer at December 08, 2009 10:06 AM (lt/wV)
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Kill 'em all and let Gaia sort 'em out.
Posted by: SicSemperTyrannus at December 08, 2009 10:10 AM (JSetw)
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Let them try. They can kiss our hineys. If the
EPA employees have a lick of sense they will soone be hunting new jobs. It will be safer for everyone if they do.
Posted by: Odins Acolyte at December 08, 2009 04:49 PM (brIiu)
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Let's Put That Treason Charge Where it Belongs
Late last month Andrew Breitbart earned the ire of a couple of excitable left-wingers when he tweeted:
Capital punishment for Dr James Hansen. Climategate is high treason.
If you've been hiding in a cave for much of the past few years, Hansen is the chief climate change evangelical leader at NASA, and a serial contributor to the belief system of the climate change cult.
Now, those who got infuriated with Breitbart did so because they did what lefty bloggers typically do: they exaggerated Breitbart's tweet and focused on the capital punishment part of it and utterly ignored that charges of high treason lead to a trial, and it is the result of the trial that can lead to capital punishment.
Was Breitbart guilty of a little hyperbole? Perhaps, but certainly less than it took for those lefty bloggers to start screaming that Breitbart tweet was attempting to incite Hasen's murder by vigilantes.
The thing is, Breitbart may be on to something. If we have learned anything in recent weeks, we have learned that the "science" underlying claims of climate change was highly politicized and almost certainly corrupted by scientists that willfully doctored data to provide an end result they had already predetermined.
In the immediate-term, this constitutes massive fraud. Multiple communications from multiple climate change scientists also strongly support the case for criminal racketeering, and RICO investigations in the United States and equivalent investigations in other countries. The investigations will not only presumably indict the researchers, but journalists, activists, and politicians that conspired with them when they either knew the data was purposefully corrupted, or when they should have expected it was fraudulent.
The international climate change conference in Copenhagen that started today should also be considered as the basis for treason charges for any signatory of any treaty that comes out of the meeting in the face of overwhelming evidence that the basic science of climate change is completely compromised and represents a threat to national security no less dire than espionage, no less dangerous than a terrorist attack.
Andrew Breitbart had the right idea when he tossed out the idea of trying those responsible for their roles in climate change fraud, but Hansen and other scientists are powerless to actually cause any real damage, and should instead face only prison sentences if they are indeed guilty as it appears. Not, the weighty charge of treason will fall entirely upon the shoulders of the politicians attending Copenhagen with a dream of establishing more control and restraints over the lives of their people.
Politicians that embrace Copenhagen's rush to judgement amid the recent and ongoing revelations will deserve charges of treason if they willfully ignore the unmasking of scientific fraud to commit a political swindle. If they are willing to betray their nations, they deserve to be placed on trial and potentially forfeit their lives.
Nothing More.
Nothing Less.
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Blatantly signing treaty instruments that will eviscerate our national economy isn't the only risible act -
The EPA celebrating Pearl Harbor Day rates right up there.
Effectively, taxation without representation.
Didn't that cause some issues before?
Posted by: Wind Rider at December 07, 2009 02:05 PM (0SmFP)
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rope. tree. global warming politician.
some assembly required.
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 07, 2009 03:17 PM (d1FhN)
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Let me put in perspective some of the thinking process of our government. A few years ago I was accused of fraud by the Feds. Now what was my crime? I billed Medicare yet could not produce a handfull of medial notes on a routine audit. At no time did any one try to establish an intent to fraud, which is required by law. At no time did any one even establish that I received payment for the charges. Only that the notes were not there.
Now here we have people in England, Australia, and the US who are actively engaged in falsifying documents and receiving millions in compensation. The end result of their efforts being to undermine the economies of several countries (after all the proposed actions that they desire would do nothing to changing the climate). What is war? War is an aggressive effort to manipulate the economy of another country.
Thus, these "scientist" are guilty of either massive fraud or treason/making war. If my little efforts are fraud then these people are much worse. At the bear minimum, these people are guilty of stupidity and branded their movement in much the same way.
By the way, my case was resolved with a fine. But I was not allowed to go to court and could have been in jail without court appearence. This is what is called medicare fraud by our government and is what they want to use to pay for their health bill.
Posted by: David at December 07, 2009 03:38 PM (PpoBw)
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It's nice to see lefty bloggers take time out from calling for Bush and Cheney to be tried as war criminals long enough to demand moderation and civility from the right.
Posted by: Steve at December 07, 2009 03:39 PM (z6DkT)
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Why no mention that Hansen, this year, called for trials and possible execution for all those who disagreed with him that humans are the major/only factor affecting global temperature changes of any type?
Posted by: John A at December 07, 2009 05:41 PM (LEb+F)
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Oops, the "treason" thing was an expansion of Hansen statement by Krugman. My bad.
Posted by: John A at December 07, 2009 05:48 PM (LEb+F)
Posted by: judge roy bean at December 07, 2009 07:26 PM (4G06+)
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"Hansen and other scientists are powerless to actually cause any real damage"
But they are working to cause the damage. They want the damage to occur. They may not aspire to ruling the world, but they do see themselves as mandarins in a world where the rest of us are reduced to serfs. They will have nice homes, cars, overseas vacations, and premium medical care, while we will live in whatever degree of poverty the mandarins decree is "necessary". And since dissent will be a crime against nature, we will be kept ignorant through violence and the threat of violence.
Posted by: pst314 at December 07, 2009 09:21 PM (XP0Bd)
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So we are supposed to make Breitbart a gangster!
Hey folks, NASA's own James Hansen has called for war crimes trials for oil company executives who fund global-warming skeptics. Of course the hypocrite Hansen fails to inform us of his lucrative funding from George "speculator scumbag" Soros!
If Hansen were a high-ranking military officer making such statements, he would have been cashiered years ago. But we all know that the he is just some puke from NASA/Goddard/GISS, and that he cannot be held accountable. WHY????
Posted by: mescalero at December 07, 2009 11:56 PM (e7NAO)
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Did Obama Administration Try to Silence NPR Reporter?
Executives at National Public Radio recently asked the network's top political correspondent, Mara Liasson, to reconsider her regular appearances on Fox News because of what they perceived as the network's political bias, two sources familiar with the effort said.
According to a source, Liasson was summoned in early October by NPR's executive editor for news, Dick Meyer, and the network's supervising senior Washington editor, Ron Elving. The NPR executives said they had concerns that Fox’s programming had grown more partisan, and they asked Liasson to spend 30 days watching the network.
At a follow-up meeting last month, Liasson reported that she'd seen no significant change in Fox's programming and planned to continue appearing on the network, the source said.
NPR’s focus on Liasson's work as a commentator on Fox's "Special Report" and "Fox News Sunday" came at about the same time as a White House campaign launched in September to delegitimize the network by painting it as an extension of the Republican Party.
So NPR—a reliably left-leaning organization—has a problem with Liasson's
appearances on Fox News—which she had been doing for a decade—at precisely the same time that the Obama Administration was trying to destroy the network's credibility.
The real question here is whether someone in the Obama Administration asked Elving and Meyer to pressure Liasson to leave Fox News, and if such influence is unethical or illegal.
I know... we can ask the Justice Department to investi—
Dang. Never mind.
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Unthinkable! ...OK, maybe not.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at December 07, 2009 11:49 AM (Ayd6W)
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I always like to watch Mara. That segment of the show is a must see for me, and I appreciate her well articulated somewhat leftist point of view. It would be a mistake for NPR to get her off Fox. She's presenting their pov to a lot of people like me. She does it in a better way than my area's newspaper.
Posted by: Jayne at December 07, 2009 08:38 PM (dwIL0)
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Wonder if this will cause Mara to reconsider the company she keeps at NPR?
Nah...
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at December 07, 2009 11:34 PM (2joUy)
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the Justice Department has, for now, ordered two key career attorneys not to comply with a subpoena about the case issued by the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.
Posted by: Neo at December 08, 2009 12:09 AM (tE8FB)
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HuffPo: Palin is a Racist, or Something
Sarah Palin must really scare the crap out of Ariana Huffington. Really... is this the best they have?
Palin, though notoriously ill-traveled outside the United States, did journey far to the first of the four colleges she attended, in Hawaii. She and a friend who went with her lasted only one semester. "Hawaii was a little too perfect," Palin writes. "Perpetual sunshine isn't necessarily conducive to serious academics for eighteen-year-old Alaska girls." Perhaps not. But Palin's father, Chuck Heath, gave a different account to Conroy and Walshe. According to him, the presence of so many Asians and Pacific Islanders made her uncomfortable: "They were a minority type thing and it wasn't glamorous, so she came home." In any case, Palin reports that she much preferred her last stop, the University of Idaho, "because it was much like Alaska yet still 'Outside.' "
Wow.
So in the worst case scenario, Palin went to a place where the culture and people were radically different than what she was accustomed to, found it uncomfortable, and wanted to leave for someplace where she felt more at home.
Outrageous.
According the Southern Poverty Law Center, Palin would like have had a good reason to feel uncomfortable, considering the violent prejudice of natives towards non-natives,
whites in particular. A tall, pretty white 18-year-old female completely unexposed to the culture would have been quite a target, don't you think?
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Given the prevailing view towards whites that native Hawaiians appear to hold (http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=1081) I'm not terribly surprised she felt uncomfortable in that environment.
Posted by: Eric at December 07, 2009 12:31 PM (+GD1J)
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25 years ago I was a freshman at a small Southern California college, and ended up socializing with some Hawaiian expats. The girls were gorgeous!
Anyway, they told lots of stories of the divides between the natives and the "how-lees". There was genuine hatred, a sense of native entitlement, and a big xenophobic aspect to it. I remember commenting back then about how racist it was and getting back looks like I had 2 heads. And this was from rich kids, whose parents could send them to the mainland.
We all know how mean girls can be in general. If pretty, white, blond, funny-talking, 18-year-old Sarah Palin ended up in Hawaii on a dorm floor with a few "nativist" locals I can see her being tormented to the point of withdrawal.
Posted by: Tom J. at December 07, 2009 01:13 PM (ALD/o)
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It is a dirty little secret that whites who have moved to Hawaii from the mainland have faced racism at levels probably only experienced by Blacks in the deep south during Jim Crow. I am not surprised that Sarah was uncomfortable. MOst people are when they are shut out the local society and viewed with suspicion .
Posted by: Penny at December 07, 2009 01:33 PM (5sGLG)
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I was stationed on Oahu for a few years back in the late 80's and saw the overt hatred that native Hawaiians, particularly the less-well-off, had for outsiders.
Most military folks who had kids in the local school system would have to pull them out for the last week of school which had become the traditional time to beat up the "haole" kids.
And this treatment was not reserved for the white kids only. The natives had a particular dislike for black servicemembers and their kids.
It was really quite shocking to us, and we lived on a military base. I can't imagine what it was like for a young Alaskan woman in college.
Posted by: Texas Pete at December 07, 2009 02:10 PM (giU14)
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I'd like to hear the whole discussion Sarah's dad had with Conroy and Walshe. Also, what her dad says isn't what Palin says. But even so, if blacks like Michelle Obama can say they felt uncomfortable at Princeton it's yet again a double standard to criticize Palin for feeling uncomfortable in a non white area, if in fact she did. Heck, Obama's whole beginning of Dreams of My Father was about feeling out of place.
When I've gone to Hawaii, if you step out of your honky resort enclave, it's definitely hometown rules not comfortable for outsiders.
Posted by: Jayne at December 07, 2009 08:45 PM (dwIL0)
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There was a thread on this story over at Little Green Snotballs the other day, and since I have been banned there wasn't able to comment, so I am happy to have a go here.
I have lived in Hawaii for 20+ years and can assure you that racsism towards ha'ole people (whites, etc.) is alive and well.
Although better than before , there are still areas (west side Oahu) where it is best to avoid at night, and the rule still remains to never drink with the locals.
I am sure that when Sarah Palin attended UH Manoa she experienced extreme culture shock. I myself attended Hawaii Loa College (new name now) in 1988. I remember my first day in the cafeteria for breakfast and was shocked to see rice being served in the morning.
I can say now 20 years later that I have only a few local friends and that is all. Folks just don't mix that much, and it would be hard for anyone to adjust to in the beginning. Nothing rascist about it, just culture.
Posted by: SoulSurfer at December 07, 2009 10:21 PM (Tei2v)
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Let's see..... She married a Native American (Eskimo). Last I checked, Native Americans are not Caucasians.
Posted by: Hangtown Bob at December 09, 2009 12:54 PM (uUX4w)
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December 06, 2009
Curtains for Obama?
Injured British soldiers refused to meet with Prime Minister Gordon Brown when he came to visit them at a hospital because of complaints that his government doesn't support troops fighting in Afghanistan. Those unable to physically leave their hospital beds requested for their privacy curtains to be drawn shut.
After President Obama's speech at West Point where he promised to
implement a surge before self-imposed defeat, will American soldiers and Marines wounded in the conflict give their coldly-calculating Commander in Chief the same treatment?
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I doubt it. I think the British military has a different power structure than the U.S. does.
Brown is only political head of the government whereas Obama is both head of government and Head of State, a ceremonial position.
It would be a far bigger deal if U.S. soldiers snubbed Obama because, like it or not, he is the figurative representation of the nation's will and the soldiers would effectively be snubbing the entire nation in the gesture. This is not the way American soldiers function. If they could put up with Carter, they will put up with Obama--at least publicly. There are other ways of making displeasure known than public demonstrations.
For England, the Queen holds this ceremonial role and I doubt British soldiers would snub her.
Posted by: Slveryder at December 06, 2009 02:41 PM (W8KZw)
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It's not Obama's "ceremonial" role that would proscribe such behavior. It's his legal role as their Commander-In-Chief.
Knowing how his cabal of lawyers works, you could see one of them arguing that wounded soldiers refusing to see the President were engaging in making "contemptuous remarks" about the NCA, thereby violating the UCMJ.
If Obama were smart (big if, I know) he would not even put these soldiers in this position, and would clear his visit with them prior, out of respect for them and their sacrifice.
Posted by: Gunpowder Chronicle at December 06, 2009 02:50 PM (Y+Yba)
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you'd be facing UCMJ action in a second, if for no other reason than your CO would be worried about his career......
Posted by: redc1c4 at December 06, 2009 06:20 PM (d1FhN)
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like it or not he is the "comander in chief.
many many years ago when I went thru basic training it was on of the required learning asignments to be able to recite the chain of command right up to the president.
you could not do what you describe without serious repressions
Posted by: rumcrook® at December 06, 2009 09:49 PM (60WiD)
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that should be repercussions
Posted by: rumcrook® at December 06, 2009 09:52 PM (60WiD)
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You can argue commander in chief are repercussions all you want but you already saw this happen with the families of the dead recently. When this happens with the wounded Our Commander in chief will not dare show his face around these men and women because repercussions or not the political fallout would loose him any place in history let alone and future public office for him or anyone associated with him. So yes with will see a possibility of this happening but he and his advisors will not be stupid enough to put themselves into this type of position.
Posted by: ken at December 06, 2009 11:08 PM (u0FmQ)
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family members may do as they wish. serving military members may not.
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Excuse me but I see to remember from my time in the service that you could tell an officer F*** o** as long as you were respectful and added sir. I am as conservative as most and all but some here are not being realistic in their interpretation of the UCMJ or military etiquette. And you are all missing the cornerstone of this thread. When you abuse the trust, good will, and honor of the military (like during Vietnam and may be starting now) it will break in much the same way as our society is breaking now... We are talking about the lead up to that. There are many ways a wounded soldier can be respectful and still cut a commanding officer apart especially if a number of GI's do it at the same time. I would hope that unlike during Vietnam our officers and politicians would be smarter and possible realize there are a number of wolves at our doors and not let it come to this....
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December 05, 2009
Obama: The Climate Change Denier and Threat
As Barack Obama commits to heading to a climate change summit despite strong evidence of scientific fraud, it certainly appears that denial is his course:
The controversy swirling around the leaked e-mails of climate scientists apparently trying to downplay data and exclude dissenting opinions has led to calls for President Obama to skip this month's climate summit in Denmark until the e-mails can be investigated.
Instead, the White House announced Friday that Obama was doubling down on his commitment to the summit's goals and moving his visit later in the month, hoping it will secure a "meaningful" agreement.
The scandal being referred to as "Climate-gate" has rallied global warming skeptics, who say the threat is exaggerated -- let alone caused by humans. In some of the e-mails stolen by hackers and posted online, scientists at Britain's University of East Anglia's Climatic Research Unit appear to discuss hiding or deleting data that may contradicts global warming claims. Others discuss ways of keeping competing research out of peer-reviewed journals.
While deniers have repeatedly claimed that the "science is settled" the simple fact of the matter is that the President's own science advisor has some of his emails disclosed in the East Anglia CRU scandal, the CRU's head has
had to step down, other researchers (including at least one in the United States) are under investigation, the code of the CRU's data model exposes it as clearly being compromised, and the integrity of the raw data being used by NASA is also being
called in question.
Not only is the science not settled, it now appears that the scientific process was entirely corrupted and the process of peer review politicized.
No credible person can now claim that the science is settled, and any objective person would have to agree with the UK's Met Office that the existing value-added data is worthless and that the raw data and raw data alone must be re-examined, a process that will
not be complete before 2012.
But our President is not an objective one. His is a radical left-wing ideologue, and man-made climate change is a matter of theological faith for him. For Barack Obama, compromised or even blatantly falsified data is irrelevant. He is as committed a zealot as Al Gore, and addicted the the thought of the control he can exert over Americans if he can simply ram through his agenda... facts or fraud be damned.
Barack Obama does not have the best interests of the United States at heart... and that makes him dangerous to our nation's future, not a potential savior of it.
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What would you expect?
Obama bows to foreign dictators and gives US citizens the finger.
Posted by: Jack at December 05, 2009 07:03 PM (bvDV5)
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Oz's PM, Rudd, just had a rude awakening. "O" is next re: the climate change issue. They made it political and now it's about to bite them.
Posted by: CoRev at December 05, 2009 08:48 PM (0U8Ob)
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While deniers have repeatedly claimed that the "science is settled"...
Need to fix that.
That being said, I have yet to see anything to a "model" other than the use of the word "model".
Posted by: Druid at December 05, 2009 08:51 PM (Gct7d)
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The claim that "the science is settled" is patently absurd. Gore has 2500 so-called "scientists" suborned by generous grants who claim that CO2 causes global warming instead of follows it, sometimes as late as 50 years later. 31,000 *real* climate scientists, many of them distinguished here in the real world, have signed a petition stating that CO2 is not a significant greenhouse gas and does not "cause" global warming.
Which group do you believe? I know who I do.
Marianne
Posted by: Marianne Matthews at December 05, 2009 11:49 PM (VbbNx)
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I believe the term "fake but accurate" sums up the AGW position.
Posted by: TimothyJ at December 06, 2009 02:45 AM (IKKIf)
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Here is the petition Marianne is referring to:
http://www.petitionproject.org/
And here is the supporting document to that petition, a very good read:
http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf
Best regards, Peter Warner.
Posted by: Peter Warner at December 06, 2009 03:23 AM (JRnGT)
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Jack,
You are wrong about Obama giving the American people the finger. If you look at the pictures of his bowing to Japan, you will clearly see that he is mooning us. There is a big difference.
Posted by: David at December 06, 2009 04:58 PM (PpoBw)
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Sure, Obama pushed his appearance to the end to give...the final push to save the Earth!!!!
Or maybe he is just gonna vote present until everyone else has already committed. Then he can give a POWERFUL speech on how only he had the courage to enact tough legislation.."but since no one else, neither will I. Hmm.."
I wonder what the true answer is?
Posted by: y7 at December 08, 2009 01:06 PM (T0dFH)
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Earning the Reputation of a Bird-Cage Liner
What do you get when you let a ideologically driven sensationalist with an economic interest in rabble-rousing use a suspected fraud as his key source of information?
Why, an article in
The Nation,
of course.
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Scott Horton is a serially discredited self-promoting conspiracy mongering hack. The only reason to read his stuff is to mock it and debunk it if it actually contains something beyond rumors and anonymous sources. He's a complete butterball buffoon.
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