How Dare You Wish Our Klansman to Die! Die, Rethuglican!
It seems our friends on the political left are all but soiling themselves over a post I wrote last night, where I wished West Virginia Senator Robert Byrd to do his nation a favor and go into the light before the Senate votes to destroy the American health care system.
Matt Yglesias seems to think my musings are on par with that of a senator, and his friends Andrew Sullivan are attempting to claim that I speak for the entire political right. Not to be out-done, Larisa Alexandrovna chose to weave in a comparison to a anti-gay dog-park stalkerette in an effort to demonize Christians as well. While I'm flattered by their attention, I suspect they've overestimated my political clout or my ability to accurately serve as a totem of whichever particular group they'd like to demonize today. I take full responsibility for posting a blog entry that calls for Senator Robert Byrd to die at a politically-convenient moment, and I won't attempt to walk it back and pretend that I said or meant anything else. I still would find it quite convenient if the senior Senator from Pangea expired prior to the Senate Democratic plot to force through rushed, potentially catastrophic legislation. But much to the (assured) dismay of of these critics and others, I can only claim to speak for myself. Likewise, I will not assume that the dozens of comments and emails sent to me by the readers of these sites are representative of the sentiments that these bloggers would publicly profess. I've found the enraged responses of some of my detractors (primarily in the form of emails and comments) to be mildly amusing. By saying that they wish me to die for posting my preference for Byrd's timely demise, they've exposed the fact that they are entirely comfortable with calling for someone's death over politics. They just lack the intellectual honesty to admit it.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 09:04 PM
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Well done sir, well done.
If you are ever in the Cary, NC neck of the woods drop be a line and I'll buy you a beer.
I've a friend that says he supports the troops then goes on rants about how the modern force is mercenary and a bunch of underage killers.
I don't mind hypocrisy - just be honest about it.
If you are ever in the Cary, NC neck of the woods drop be a line and I'll buy you a beer.
I've a friend that says he supports the troops then goes on rants about how the modern force is mercenary and a bunch of underage killers.
I don't mind hypocrisy - just be honest about it.
Posted by: Dan Irving at December 21, 2009 10:01 PM (3BHyc)
Posted by: Mike S at December 21, 2009 10:26 PM (xN4VM)
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I should also add that there is this thing called Just War Doctrine wherein it states, essentially, that evil is allowed to be done if it's in the service of preventing a still greater evil from occurring so, in actuality, there isn't even something terribly un-Christian about CF's wish.
Posted by: ECM at December 21, 2009 11:08 PM (nYKDd)
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90 some year old Senators who have to be wheeled in to vote are not doing their job - he's not in on the debate, not up on the issues and not representing his constituents. If the man won't do the right thing and resign his seat, I wish he would be taken out of commission by any means so that a cogent, true representative who has to live with her vote can help move this country in the right direction. West Virginians are idiots to have put this aged old fart in office the last time.
Posted by: Jayne at December 21, 2009 11:32 PM (dwIL0)
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I'm seeing reports that the Dems are putting language in the healthcare bill to the effect that it can only be changed (if passed into law) by a super majority of votes, or 67 votes in the Senate.
If this is true, it really is shooting time. They have dropped the last bit of pretence of being anything but crooked tyrants.
If this is true, it really is shooting time. They have dropped the last bit of pretence of being anything but crooked tyrants.
Posted by: Stoddard at December 21, 2009 11:50 PM (k2Avo)
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"This reminds me opf when Jesus hoped that his opponents would die."
A lefty who belives in Jesus. Isn't that special.
A lefty who belives in Jesus. Isn't that special.
Posted by: Stoddard at December 21, 2009 11:51 PM (k2Avo)
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calling for someone to die or be killed (ala when the leftards in canada were hoping for bush's assasination, in a movie if I recall) is only morally elevated and acceptable when leftards are doing it.///
Posted by: rumcrook® at December 21, 2009 11:53 PM (60WiD)
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As far as I know, Jesus didn't have to hope. All of Jesus' opponents did die, and He let them. Be careful of such half-baked, retarded comparisons.
And whether Byrd lives or dies is immaterial, so long as there's a single RINO willing to sell out the American people.
And whether Byrd lives or dies is immaterial, so long as there's a single RINO willing to sell out the American people.
Posted by: Shwiggie at December 22, 2009 12:52 AM (Yuyz/)
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The irony of this whole thing is truly funny. With all the hopes and prayers of the Left of Bush getting killed and they get pissed about this.
Byrd is unfit for office, there's no way he actually knows all of what he's voting for. I can see it now when they take the vote.
Byrd sits there sleeping and drooling while Biden asks "Can someone please press the 'Yes' button for Senator Byrd?"
Byrd is unfit for office, there's no way he actually knows all of what he's voting for. I can see it now when they take the vote.
Byrd sits there sleeping and drooling while Biden asks "Can someone please press the 'Yes' button for Senator Byrd?"
Posted by: Scott at December 22, 2009 06:35 AM (EBCRo)
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Yes, the behavior of some of your critics on the left was and is overwrought and hateful. Wishing on old man dead is still beyond the bounds of civil discussion and speech. Their bad behavior is no excuse for yours; your behavior is no excuse for theirs.
Posted by: RNB at December 22, 2009 07:09 AM (lSJnL)
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Byrd sits there sleeping and drooling while Biden asks "Can someone please press the 'Yes' button for Senator Byrd?"
As opposed to the GOP side where no one is actually allowed to have buttons; McConnell just pushes one big NO button for everyone.
As opposed to the GOP side where no one is actually allowed to have buttons; McConnell just pushes one big NO button for everyone.
Posted by: matt at December 22, 2009 08:30 AM (hDY55)
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Well said RNB.
Posted by: Pug at December 22, 2009 08:56 AM (O5s8+)
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"Wishing on old man dead is still beyond the bounds of civil discussion and speech."
I wish Bin Laden dead.
I wish Bin Laden dead.
Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 09:02 AM (IPGju)
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The old fool should not be serving. Reinforces the need for term limits. I agree with CY, it is time for this horrible old man to meet his maker. He has screwed our beloved country over too many times - this time his vote may have been our death knell. I am damn tired of the hypocrisy of the leftists. They support abortion, death panels, cop killers, the death of our nation but don't you dare wish the same on one of their "heroes". Screw all of you traitors. Byrd needs to die. To all you naysayers who think we should make nice, screw you. Our politeness, our turning the other cheek, our wanting bipartisanship, our taking the high road, is what has brought us to the point of losing our freedom. I'm angry and not taking any more of this crap from the left.
Posted by: SierraCheryl at December 22, 2009 09:20 AM (7q2mq)
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I was wishing Arafat dead for years.
Posted by: Pablo at December 22, 2009 09:33 AM (yTndK)
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Neither Osama bin Laden nor Yasser Arafat are/were part of American politics or civil society. I consider the one a terrorist and the other a retired terrorist and tyrant. Little though I like or respect Robert Byrd, he is neither of those things; he is the legally-elected representative of the people of West Virginia. Wish for bin Laden or Arafat's deaths, if you want. Their absence would make the world a cleaner and safer place. But wishing for a senator's death for political advantage is something different. Or so I think.
Posted by: RNB at December 22, 2009 10:09 AM (lSJnL)
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So now Bin Laden isn't an old man? I say he is. Agree to disagree I guess. A good chunk of fake Americans love Bin Laden, and believe that (gasp)talking about how to kill him is beyond the bounds of civil discussion.
"Wish for bin Laden or Arafat's deaths, if you want."
I will continue to wish for Bin Laden's death, thanks.
Well, I personally don't wish for Arafat's death, because time's linear, and he's already dead. I don't believe in time travel.
"Wish for bin Laden or Arafat's deaths, if you want."
I will continue to wish for Bin Laden's death, thanks.
Well, I personally don't wish for Arafat's death, because time's linear, and he's already dead. I don't believe in time travel.
Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 10:58 AM (IPGju)
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How much is "a good chunk"?
Posted by: Kenneth G. Cavness at December 22, 2009 11:40 AM (QGV47)
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Riiiiiight. Wishing for the death of someone who masterminded a terrorist attack on American soil resulting in the death of over 3,000 people is JUST LIKE wishing for the death of a 92 year old man because you happen to dislike his politics.
Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 12:48 PM (FouTu)
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Pamela. Strawman + Sarcasm = Projection. Read your words again. Think it through, cause I'll quote you.
You're saying that we should treat every man who is 92 and someone disagrees with exactly like OBL. Well, I disagree. We don't have to agree on this. You're locked into your position. What's so magical about the age 92?
For the "good chunk" of these, you can ask Liberals themselves. They love to say that the whole world agrees with them and that they are 52% of the American population.
You're saying that we should treat every man who is 92 and someone disagrees with exactly like OBL. Well, I disagree. We don't have to agree on this. You're locked into your position. What's so magical about the age 92?
For the "good chunk" of these, you can ask Liberals themselves. They love to say that the whole world agrees with them and that they are 52% of the American population.
Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 02:30 PM (IPGju)
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Byrd unfit for office? Have you read the text of any of his speechs or recently published articles? His body is going -- not his mind. We re-elect him because he's a damn good Senator, foolish ones.
Posted by: D Norman at December 22, 2009 02:32 PM (tnOY3)
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Brando: Strawman + Sarcasm = Projection. Read your words again. Think it through, cause I'll quote you.
Please do.
Brando: You're saying that we should treat every man who is 92 and someone disagrees with exactly like OBL.
No, I did not say that. As you know, I was was using something called "sarcasm."
Or is this one of those cases where a right winger, confronted with an argument, feigns a serious cognitive deficit and inability to grasp nuance that, if it were genuine, would render him or her incapable of forming complex sentences?
Still steamed about me knocking down your earlier culturally illiterate attempt to paint the modern Democratic party as the :party of racism" eh?
Please do.
Brando: You're saying that we should treat every man who is 92 and someone disagrees with exactly like OBL.
No, I did not say that. As you know, I was was using something called "sarcasm."
Or is this one of those cases where a right winger, confronted with an argument, feigns a serious cognitive deficit and inability to grasp nuance that, if it were genuine, would render him or her incapable of forming complex sentences?
Still steamed about me knocking down your earlier culturally illiterate attempt to paint the modern Democratic party as the :party of racism" eh?
Posted by: Pamela Troy at December 22, 2009 03:44 PM (FouTu)
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No, I did not say that. As you know, I was was using something called "sarcasm."
Yes, you did say that. And you're a racist, liar. The only reason that I'm engaging you is because I'm trying to make you a better person. I'm being nice and noble, and you're being a typical Liberal. You were saying insane stuff using a little thing called "Strawman", and a little thing called "Sarcasm", which is a little thing called "Projection". When racists like you use racist "Jokes", to say horrific stuff, you don't later get to use the "nuance" immunity. Just own up to your character. It'll feel better.
Either you were saying that we should kill ALL 92 year old men who disagrees with anyone, or that we should elevate OBL should be given Byrd's position. Because you think that they are exactly the same person.
You're dead wrong. I think that OBL dying is a bad thing. You've labeled me a Right-winger for that. You, Fred Phelps and OBL, might be the majority, but that doesn't it make you guys good people.
Yes, you did say that. And you're a racist, liar. The only reason that I'm engaging you is because I'm trying to make you a better person. I'm being nice and noble, and you're being a typical Liberal. You were saying insane stuff using a little thing called "Strawman", and a little thing called "Sarcasm", which is a little thing called "Projection". When racists like you use racist "Jokes", to say horrific stuff, you don't later get to use the "nuance" immunity. Just own up to your character. It'll feel better.
Either you were saying that we should kill ALL 92 year old men who disagrees with anyone, or that we should elevate OBL should be given Byrd's position. Because you think that they are exactly the same person.
You're dead wrong. I think that OBL dying is a bad thing. You've labeled me a Right-winger for that. You, Fred Phelps and OBL, might be the majority, but that doesn't it make you guys good people.
Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 04:17 PM (IPGju)
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"I think that OBL dying is a good thing."
or
"I don't think that OBL dying is a bad thing."
Yeah, grammar checks are good. Everyone knows my position.
or
"I don't think that OBL dying is a bad thing."
Yeah, grammar checks are good. Everyone knows my position.
Posted by: brando at December 22, 2009 04:20 PM (IPGju)
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In the original Constitution senators were elected by their state legislatitures to serve in congress and have authority as regards only to their respective states. That was changed some years ago but they still act as if they only serve their state, whereas now they and their house comrades are supposed to represent the nation as a whole. Try to get one not from your state to speak or write to you or accept your mail. I not only wish Byrd would go on over, I wish the whole effing bunch would follow.
Posted by: tjbbpgobIII at December 22, 2009 06:13 PM (eXdIs)
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What Would Captain Pike Do?
Posted by: pinandpuller at December 22, 2009 08:28 PM (aRm4V)
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But seriously-why are you liberals trying to keep Byrd from seeing Christ?
The last time they saw each other Byrd was burning a cross on Joseph's lawn in Nazareth.
The last time they saw each other Byrd was burning a cross on Joseph's lawn in Nazareth.
Posted by: pinandpuller at December 22, 2009 08:39 PM (aRm4V)
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That old man has been hatin for a long time and I suspect he'll only see Jesus as he's passin on by headed for a hot place.
Posted by: maxx at December 22, 2009 09:28 PM (bFNvP)
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I certainly hope that that demented old racist would die. Soon followed by most of the rest of the racist Democrats.
I certainly hope that that demented old racist would die. Soon followed by most of the rest of the racist Democrats.
Posted by: iconoclast at December 23, 2009 02:56 AM (O8ebz)
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Is the esteemed Senator even sentient any longer?
It's an awful thing to say, but I suspect that Harry Reid would wheel in Byrd's casket to get his vote. Depending on your point of view, that may be less a reflection on my crassness than it is a comment on how vicious and small the Democrat leadership has become in their zeal to get The Great Plan passed. I don't think there is ANYTHING that Reid and Pelosi wouldn't do to score what they see as a political "win".
It's an awful thing to say, but I suspect that Harry Reid would wheel in Byrd's casket to get his vote. Depending on your point of view, that may be less a reflection on my crassness than it is a comment on how vicious and small the Democrat leadership has become in their zeal to get The Great Plan passed. I don't think there is ANYTHING that Reid and Pelosi wouldn't do to score what they see as a political "win".
Posted by: bobdog at December 24, 2009 05:58 PM (SKEgy)
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