For the time being, I'm over here and blogging away. That's not where I plan to stay very long (but I did say that about my current employment where I've been for 7 years now), but I'm there at the moment. Come on over and say "Hi!"
I've spent over 7 hours now in the past 4 days deleting spam. I'm done. Until I find another platform or another way to deal with spam, I'm simply done blogging here (or maybe I'll just post sans comments). It's not worth the time and trouble. When I find another way, I'll post here again. Until then, have fun!
Update: Thanks for all the kind emails of support. Please realize, I'm not completely giving up -- I'm just stopping until I find somewhere to blog where I'm not spending hours a day dealing with spam. It might be here, it might be somewhere else, but I'm not stopping. I just really don't want to change urls, if there's any other options.
Update #2: Hundreds more spam each day, even after manually closing and programatically closing posts. Gah. In the meantime, I'm playing over here.
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I think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the biggest threat in the Middle East right now. You can state it like a joke... "What do you get when you give an insane nutbag dictator nukes?"...
What are your thoughts on this dufus? You notice that his last name start with Ah-MAD...
:-)
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 13, 2007 12:16 PM (TzKlC)
So, if we lose this war on terror, what will happen? What will America look like if we lose? Seriously, I'm wondering.
Many people are supporting Rudy Guiliani for president because he was mayor of New York during the 9/11 attacks he is the one who can best lead and win in this war on terror. It has even been proposed that he is getting support JUST because he can win this war. It was suggested that evangelical Christian leaders are supporting him solely because they believe winning this war is more important than any other issue: including abortion, taxes, and same-sex marriage.
But what would happen if we "lost?"
Now even I have posted what the Muslim terrorists desire. They want to take over the world. They want everyone to bow down to their religion. They want their religion to be the law of the land, enforced with violence. And certainly, using our own government, they are making inroads in that direction. But what would happen if we didn't fight them now and instead embraced freedom?
Would they be able to force all America women to wear burkas? Not damn likely. I know a LOT of women who would just refuse. They'd take the head-chopping off. How many would they have to kill before all women submitted? I'm thinking pretty much ALL of them.
Would they be able to make it a capital crime to utter "Mohammed?" I suppose they could -- but if you think you've seen civil disobedience, you haven't seen anything yet. I, again, know lots of people who would just arm themselves and walk down main street crying out, "Mo stinks!" -- and just daring the police to arrest them. Again, how many would you have to kill before people would fall in line?
Maybe Islam would be enshrined as the nation's official religion. Well, even if that happened, so what? We already have a national religion (atheism) and most people just ignore it for the crap it is.
So what am I missing? With so many people and bloggers running around saying "I will not submit," what would "losing" this war actually look like? Maybe there's some other wars we should "lose" -- like the one on poverty and the one on drugs.
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In all honesty, I never think in terms of win or lose, I do think about the video I saw of an American Civilian being beheaded by these subhuman creatures. I think about the desparate people jumping from the twin towers on 9/11, and then I pray that God, in his wisdom and for the fact that "He is in control", will guide me through these times and help me keep my faith no matter what. I don't want to know what America looks like with these jerks in control. I want to learn how to safely and properly use a gun, I want to hoard ammo, and if the day ever comes that those idiots even try to impose Islamic anything in my world, just kill em all and let God sort it out! Now that may sound nuts, but my ancestors did exactly that when the English threatened to sieze their lands and rob them of their liberty. The English weren't nearly as evil as Islamofacists. I know I will not pluck the bodies of children or neighbors out of what used to be a church or shopping center more than once before I go ballistic on someone. I really don't know how the Israelli's have dealt with it all these years. What kind of world will our children inherit if we do not stand against an evil that kills innocents without conscience? I am not certain what America would look like if we lost the War on Terror, I know I don't like what it looks like now since we have failed to win the War on Social(ism) and betrayal among our own citizens. Oh, I do sound like gloom and doom here don't I. I'm just having one of those days.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 12, 2007 07:28 PM (eaqGd)
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No, that's what I mean -- I don't think it's actually POSSIBLE for the terrorists to win. I don't believe they can take this country by force. Or at least if they do, it will only be over the dead bodies of a LOT of people. I just don't think most Americans will just take it lying down.
Now they can take over the government, because, well, it's the craphole that is government. But more and more already, people are just ignoring government. If the Muslims take more government, there will just be more people ignoring government because people want to be free.
Posted by: Ogre at November 12, 2007 08:03 PM (oifEm)
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Yeah... "What you said"!!! LOL!!! Well, you are right because there would be one old girl right here that wouldn't sit back and take it, and I sure would never denouce Jesus for a God that expects people to murder for Allah. Nope.
They'd have to kill me, but not before I got a whole bunch of them. I'd make PMS look like a good thing! :-)
I think you are right about our government. Look at how many of our politicians have stood up in Congress and bad mouthed our troops and General Petraeus and with no apology, and how many just sat back and said NOTHING, and how many are in denial or lying about what our troops have accomplished? I don't think any of those cowards or traitors would make any kind of stand for anything worthwhile.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 12, 2007 08:48 PM (eaqGd)
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I think a worst case "loss" today would be that we lose the American government to Islam -- and I'm not so sure losing today's government would be a bad thing.
Posted by: Ogre at November 12, 2007 08:57 PM (oifEm)
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Well, one thing about it, the Liberals would be miserable since Islam is nothing but intolarant of all their favorite causes... like allowing women to abort babies, patting homosexuals on the back and acting like their lifestyle is normal (disclaimer... it is my person opinion it is not normal!), and getting the latest government designer handouts. Might not be such a bad thing considering how much immorality has taken over.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 13, 2007 02:58 AM (TzKlC)
Posted by: Ogre at November 13, 2007 10:14 AM (2WD8n)
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Sometimes, miserable excuses for enlightened human beings? Miserable people spreading their miserey around? LOL! There is a man who was on Fox and Friends this morning who wrote a book about Saddam's debriefing prior to his execution and it is all pretty fastenating stuff. One thing that impressed me was he talked about "how incredibly successful the War on Terror has been, and how you will never read about it in the Washington Post or the NY Times". This is something libs were probably reeling about over their morning coffee. I may have to get his book and read it as an early Chirstmas present to myself.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 13, 2007 11:31 AM (TzKlC)
Check out Ron Paul. Think about making big news, even if you're not completely supporting him for election. Even if he doesn't win, but supporting him, you might get a few other candidates to pay attention to freedom.
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Speaking of "Bombs"... after reading your comment on Raven's blog about "Bath Bombs" I am most grateful you have never "designed any bath bombs" as I don't think they would be exactly relaxing and envigorating! LOL@ Ogre!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 13, 2007 12:26 PM (TzKlC)
By an overwhelming margin, citizens in 16 counties resoundingly defeated a real estate transfer tax on Tuesday night. The proposed transfer tax, also known statewide as the “home tax,” would have resulted in property owners being forced to pay an additional tax just for the privilege of selling their home or property.
“The taxpayers of North Carolina spoke loud and clear across the state Tuesday,” said Tim Kent, executive vice president of the N.C. Association of REALTORS®. “As we have stated all along, the transfer tax would have been grossly unfair, singling out one group of people – those selling their homes – to pay for infrastructure, programs and services that benefit everyone.”
Citizen groups in the 16 counties initiated grassroots efforts to inform their friends and neighbors about the negative implications of a transfer tax.
“The more than 44,000 realtors in North Carolina care deeply about the communities in which they live,” Kent said. “They are keenly aware that our local governments have real needs, and they will continue to work with local officials to find the best solutions for these needs. But they, like those who voted Tuesday, realize the transfer tax is not the answer.”
The legislature during the 2007 session voted to give counties the option to place the transfer tax issue on the ballot. Only 16 of North Carolina’s 100 counties chose to put a referendum on the November 6 ballot.
“We hope the large margin by which these measures were defeated will send a strong message to other counties considering a transfer tax referendum for the future,” Kent said. “The bottom line – the home tax is a bad idea.”
As Jim Puckett of Charlotte points out -- the Real Estate industry spent a lot of money supporting trains in Charlotte. Now they've got to be paid for, so when the real estate industry shows up to oppose these sorts of taxes, they're just claiming that they want something, but THEY don't want to pay for it!
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That is a horrible tax and I'm glad you all have defeated it! I know many older people when they retire want to move South or Southwest, It is bad enough when they sell thier home they can get hit with paying Capitol Gains on the equity, regardless if it is going to be used to buy another home elsewhere, but taxing people just for selling a house! Sounds to me like they are just trying to grab a piece of someone else's equity! Doncha just love the way liberals think?
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 12, 2007 07:38 PM (eaqGd)
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Well, Mecklenburg voted to build a couple billion dollars worth of trains -- and has no way to pay for it. I suspect Charlotte WILL get a home tax, one way or another, next non-election year.
Posted by: Ogre at November 12, 2007 08:04 PM (oifEm)
And yes, once again, one of my real favorites from the festival, Dextre Tripp:
Ever tried to climb a ladder? Imagine climbing one not leaning up against anything. And then imagine someone ELSE climbing that ladder at the same time. That's what he's doing here -- that child is bringing him his hat by climbing the ladder and joining him at the top! This guy really is that good!
That's all for this weekend, but hopefully as you read this I'm taking more pictures and will have some more next week! Thanks for stopping by.
Presenting Don Juan and Miguel. Sorry the picture isn't great. I'll get better ones today.
These two are really neat people. They've got an impressive sword fighting and whip show, and they're clearly talented with both. They're also hilarious. And Miguel is quite often seen wandering about the fair grounds, talking with people. Just beware of him when he has a pickle...
Hey folks! Ogre's not here today. Instead, he's over at the Carolina Renaissance Festival all day long. You should be there, too. For those who cannot, one more day of a few pictures from the festival. This one here is Manolete:
This guy's a nut. He lights the stage on fire and plays with fire. He balances fire on his body. He swings rope around -- lit on fire. Go watch him -- his show will be great this weekend when it's supposed to be chilly!
Here's another very entertaining group, The London Broil. These are three funny guys that juggle and put on a great show.
They're supposed to be appearing live in Charlotte next Friday. Their web site keeps saying "check back soon for details." I hope they update it before next Friday so I can get some tickets! But don't miss them at the fair -- if you catch their last show, you might get to see them juggle stools!
Well, that's all the pictures for today! Be sure and stop by again tomorrow for more pictures. And if you're in the area, come on by the festival. I'll be the Ogre dressed as a pirate with a camera with the long lens.
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OK, I find myself not able to resist... are their names Moe, Larry and Curly??? *grin*.
Actually I saw a show that featured bartenders that juggled the liquor bottles. I think they were featured at a bar in Vegas, and I was fastenated. I have always been "all thumbs"!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 10:13 PM (eaqGd)
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Heh. Actually it's Matt, Louie, and Duncan -- in reverse order in the picture.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 10:50 PM (2WD8n)
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I can't believe you know them by name! That is too cool!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 11:50 PM (eaqGd)
When you're walking through the tree-covered area of the Carolina Renaissance Festival and you hear the wonderful music of a harp wandering through the branches and leaves, you're sure to be getting closer to Sarah Marie Mullen:
I could sit and listen to that beautiful music all day. And she's not exactly rough on the eyes while you're sitting there, either...
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What a pretty lady and such a gorgeous costume.
From a time when women knew how to be women. Sometimes I think I was born a 100 years or so too late. :-)
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 08:07 PM (eaqGd)
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And the music! Go to her website and you can hear samples!
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 08:18 PM (oifEm)
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Very comforting and soothing music. I can see how you could listen all day.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 10:09 PM (eaqGd)
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My thanks and gratitude to all Veterans! I sleep safely and enjoy the freedom I do have because there have always been those willing to sacrifice for it, on my behalf. THANK YOU ALL!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:25 PM (eaqGd)
There is one show at the festival that showcases various birds of prey. It's neat, lots of fun, and the birds fly through and over the audience. It's pretty cool. This picture here came out just great, didn't it? The owl had just taken off.
This weekend, I'm taking a different lens and hope to get a few more close-ups of a few things -- like these great birds in flight.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 04:44 PM (eaqGd)
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The show is great when the bring out the vultures -- who then search the ground for scraps from turkey legs!
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 04:53 PM (oifEm)
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I would think that would be kinda scary. They aren't exactly a warm and fuzzy bird! I kinda like watching the little finches taking dirt baths myself! They are pretty cute! LOL!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 04:59 PM (eaqGd)
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It's scary, but funny -- the vulture hops around. His name is Igor. He hops like Igor.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:13 PM (oifEm)
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Take lots of pics because I want to see what Igor looks like. I also want to see how you turn out in a pirate costume Ogre! It sounds priceless!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:16 PM (eaqGd)
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I'll try, but it's tough to get good Igor pictures. He moves around so much, it's hard to nail him down. But I'll take different lenses and give it a shot.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:28 PM (oifEm)
Thom is a great show. He was away from the Carolina Renaissance Festival for a couple years, but he's back. It's a really great and entertaining show and he really does swallow those swords. The one in this picture is really long, trust me!
There's just two weekends left, so if you're around, come on out and join in the fun and merriment. This really is a great place to come and relax and forget the troubles of the world, just for a day. Ogre will be there all day this Saturday -- and it's Pirate Day, so just try and imagine an Ogre dressed as a pirate. Yup, that'll be me.
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Since I was a kid, I have always wondered how they do that!!! That along with swallowing fire! Holy Cow!!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 04:47 PM (eaqGd)
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He explains it -- you just shove a pointy metal thing down your throat. That's pretty much it.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:10 PM (oifEm)
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I'd be afraid I would give myself a tonsilectomy or perforate my stomach! One would have to have steady nerves and a tendency to stay relaxed I imagine.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:14 PM (eaqGd)
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He said that the biggest part was just getting control over the gag reflex. The rest is easy.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:26 PM (oifEm)
Well there's been lots of crap in the news this week. There's been lots of religious persecution, advancement of communism at the expense of freedom, and degradation of all that is good. And there's been some good news, too. But today's Friday, and I'm taking a news break.
I meant to post pictures all week about the Carolina Renaissance Festival. I got busy and forgot. So throughout the day today, I'll just be posting pictures and other lighter fare. Forget the news for a day -- I guarantee that when you check back again, you'll find you really didn't miss anything. So check back later here today, and there will be more fun and excitement!
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Good Morning and TGIF to you Mr. Ogre!!! I'm going in work to start clearing things out of my desk and get ready to trascend to the new job next Wednesday. Kinda sad, given that I will miss my team mates. They are very good people.
Sigh.... bring on the Ren Fest pics!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 01:30 PM (TzKlC)
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Sometimes you just have to relax and ignore the bad news. Ignorance truly is bliss...at least for awhile.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 02:07 PM (oifEm)
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Arrrggghhh Matey! Fly the Skull n Bonz and enjoy your day tomorrow! Sounds like the right prescription to me!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 02:57 PM (TzKlC)
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 04:09 PM (oifEm)
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What's the weather like in the area today? (I really want to get envious!!!).
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 04:48 PM (eaqGd)
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It's a bit chilly here -- highs are supposed to be in the low 60s at best. Oh, but completely sunny with a Carolina Blue sky all day -- all day for the next week, at least.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:11 PM (oifEm)
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Here it's 44 degrees but feels like 40 degrees.
I have on a long sleeve T, a hoody, and wore a jacket in! It is sunny though, but I would love to have 60 degrees right now. :-)
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:29 PM (eaqGd)
Actually they aren't as bad as Ball State in Muncie, IN (close to where I live). They are the ones that tried to pelt David Horowitz with pies when he was there to speak about a week or two before Islamofacist Awareness Week. I would like to stage a protest there and hold up signs "Peace Not Pastries" and "Pastries have Rights too"!!! Braaahaha!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 07:04 PM (eaqGd)
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The way to the dark side for me will be through funding. I've often considered going over to the dark side and living off taxpayers by doing government-funded "research." I just can't give up personal responsibility, though.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 07:07 PM (oifEm)
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You would also have to give up accountability too. That and responsibility is an life long addition for some of us and simply cannot be abandoned. Now if you produced something of VALUE from the research, you would be doing something no other government employee has ever done and could make it into Guiness Book !!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 07:15 PM (eaqGd)
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If I were producing something of value, government wouldn't fund that.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 07:47 PM (oifEm)
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Oops!! I forgot, we are talking about our government and hand outs aren't we. You aren't related to someone in Congress or the House are ya? I think that can be helpful when working aroung these technicalities.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 07:54 PM (eaqGd)
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I'm pretty friendly with a couple CongressCritters (read: I gave them bribes, I mean campaign donations in the past).
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 08:10 PM (oifEm)
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LOL!!! That never hurts! Get a research grant for something legit and see if they would use an "earmark" to insure you get it! LOL!!! Oh that hurts even joking! It sounds so.... uh, er... LIBERAL!!! *disclaimer: Only kidding*
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 08:15 PM (eaqGd)
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The dark side can be VERY tempting. Especially because I've looked into the grants -- you can do whatever you want with the money -- like give yourself a daily stipend of $500, if there's enough in the grant.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 08:19 PM (oifEm)
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 08:34 PM (oifEm)
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Hey, Ron Paul's campaign contributions are up to 7,680,756.32!!! And Gun Owners and Homeschoolers support him! Looking at his site really helps me to see more detail in where he stands.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 09:10 PM (eaqGd)
Much of the pork we see is given to universities to do so called research...what a crock most of it is. And the real folks who do the real research get screwed over. All the time.
Posted by: Raven at November 08, 2007 09:30 PM (5xw89)
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I believe that many times "Interns and Instructors" do the research and the PHDs pocket the cash. I think some have it perfected too... absolute theivery. There is more white collar crime on campus's than anywhere else, IMHO.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 10:02 PM (eaqGd)
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I am actually "qualified" to do such research. I've looked into how they work. When people think that university people are underpaid, they just don't understand "the system."
You see, government paychecks are only half their income. These "Grants" -- at least every one I looked at -- include piles of cash as stipends. I've seen cases where university professors can make $50-$100K a year in stipends on research grants -- in addition to their salary. And yes, they can be doing (and often are) research on more than one thing at a time.
I'm telling you, the dark side is very tempting.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 02:05 PM (oifEm)
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I don't know, I always preferred to date ugly people as it makes me look better!
Posted by: Quality Weenie at November 09, 2007 02:22 PM (R6yie)
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 02:23 PM (oifEm)
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Yeah, and let's face it, many men can be pretty shallow when it comes to picking a date! LOL!!!
They tend to want to date Paris Hilton but marry someone with depth and a real career. (Just had to say that!)
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 04:56 PM (eaqGd)
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Heh. I think most men today don't actually want women with a career. I could be wrong, though, how about you give me a million or so in government cash and I'll take a survey.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:14 PM (oifEm)
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Well from my experience, it seems they either want you to have a career (which translates cash) or money (which translates the same). And many times they want you to look like Christie Brinkley too. Then there are those who want a woman to stay home and raise children too. I think I've been around the more shallow men in my lifetime though. LOL!
Well, you can forget getting government money from me... Unless you are the IRS. They do a pretty good job of getting my money! LOL!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:22 PM (eaqGd)
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It's a government study. I bet I could find someone to point a gun at you and take the money from you to give to me...(Yes, that very same IRS).
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:27 PM (oifEm)
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Ever hear you can't get blood from a turnip???
Well, consider me a turnip that has been bled dry by the government already! Maybe some of the liberals in Congress would contribute... oh, My Bad... they never pay out their money do they? They all get special tax exemptions for being public "servants" (should be task masters!) don't they?
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:37 PM (eaqGd)
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And medical benefits and retirement programs better than anyone else in the country!
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 06:07 PM (oifEm)
Yesterday I posted about the 2008 Olympics in Communist China. The news reports were that Bibles were going to be banned for athletes in the Olympics. Lindsey Graham from South Carolina reportedly asked the Chinese ambassador to the US about the ban and didn't get any answers.
Well, I wrote the US Olympic committee, and I'm happy to say I got a very quick response:
We have received confirmation from both the International Olympic Committee and the Beijing Organizing Committee that Bible and other religious materials will be permitted in the Athletes Village for personal use.
The news reports that the Beijing Organizing Committee was considering a prohibition were completely incorrect and stemmed from a miscommunication between a journalist form Italy and a representative of the organizing committee.
In addition, there will be an area in the Athletes village where athletes, coaches and officials can worship - as is always the case at the Olympic Games.
Excellent news! This is great especially because I really like the Olympics. Well, again, I like amateur athletes and don't care much for sports where professionals play one bit. And I do like the winter games a little better than the summer games. But still, this year I think I'm going to support the amateur athletes by joining The Sixth Ring -- which is a group of people financially supporting athletes training for the 2008 Olympics. Now I just need a new Olympic hat...
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Outstanding News! Now... in my opinion, the white ball cap looks better because the emblems really stand out and... white is cooler in the summer and won't tend to bake your brain like the darker colors! Just my two cents. :-)
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 06:10 PM (eaqGd)
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Heh. I like the two-color one, but I just don't know about the "red" theme...
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 06:20 PM (oifEm)
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Red is one of my favorite colors as long as it's not used in reference to political leanings... LOL!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 06:31 PM (eaqGd)
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Heh. But "red" combined with China can only mean one thing...
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 06:33 PM (oifEm)
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 08:09 PM (oifEm)
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Yeah, but then they get to draw their ridiculous retirement they voted in for themselves. You know they are just a bunch of "white collar crooks"!!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 08:18 PM (eaqGd)
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My resident pet troll, who posts under all sorts of names for some reason (any strange name that you see over and over again is likely the troll -- usually some attempt at relating to the post, but sometimes not), is doing more whining. On a post about SCHIP, the troll (posting on that thread as John Daley) claims to be God of America.
This is a position that the left often takes. It's one thing to think that you know better than everyone else, but you have truly descended into the den of evil when you ask
How does the couple with $22,800 spendable income afford a private health insurance plan?
especially when your answer is "with government help."
He also keeps pestering me about how much I pay for insurance. You see, there's one answer to that question in a free country (which America is not):
WHO CARES? IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE
The government of a free country should never ask or care about how much anything costs. The implication is that if something costs "too much," then government should make it cheaper. That's the story behind SCHIP -- people cannot "afford" insurance, so government should buy it for them.
Keep in mind: government can buy NOTHING without first taking from someone else.
Well gee, can people afford cell phones? Maybe they're "too expensive" so government should buy some of those. Oh, people don't "need" those? How about cars? Are they "too expensive?" If so, government better get to buying some for people. Oh, and we better get some more people like John Daley paying more attention so they can tell everyone else the EXACT price that things should cost. After all, how are we to determine how much is "too much" if we don't have someone who knows better to tell us? And hey, houses are kind of expensive, and everyone "needs" a house, too, right? Better get government to buy some more of those.
Hey, what about food? People absolutely really need food right? Well, how much, exactly, should a can of baked beans cost? Is 33 cents "too much?" I think John Daley needs to tell us. Should government show up and force everyone to only charge 31 cents? Should we fine people and throw them in jail for charging 37 cents for a can of beans? In John Daley's world, apparently we should.
But this is the world of liberals today. They honestly believe that they are gods in America. They believe they know exactly how much people should pay for everything because they're smarter than everyone else. And they hate freedom (even if they won't admit it). How much "should" health insurance cost? Whatever two people agree it should cost. If I can get someone to give it to me for 2 chickens a week, we should be able to trade. But in the fantasy-land that is liberalism, that's not "fair."
In a free country, people are free to come to an agreement about trading for goods and services. We are not free to do that in this country for many things -- health insurance is just one of them. I cannot buy the health insurance I want today -- not because of the "evil" companies, but because the government of North Carolina WILL NOT LET ME. They have made it illegal and will fine anyone who dares sell me the insurance I want.
Liberals like this idea. Liberals believe that "rights" extend to anything they deem people should have. And they don't care who they have to punish, jail, or enslave to get what they want. No, they won't use their money to buy things for people that they want them to have -- but they're more than willing to use the force of government to take from YOU so they can buy things THEY decide others "should" have. And that's just incredibly selfish and pure evil.
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The couple who is earning that little income need to re-evaluate their careers. IOW, get a job that provides health insurance as a benefit.
Wal Mart is always hiring. They pay 10 to 12 bucks an hour and offer plans for as little as 11 bucks a week- thats about 40 cans of beans.
Gimme a break. I once made that amount of money and I managed quite well. Its called living within your means and sacrificing the beans. Literally.
Posted by: Raven at November 08, 2007 01:34 PM (Vvbj+)
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But that's not how liberals think. By creating a "right" to health insurance, they honestly believe in slavery. Seriously. Because if there's no one to provide something for free, government WILL force someone to provide it -- or force someone else to pay to provide it. And if you refuse, you will be jailed. That's slavery, plain and simple.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 02:00 PM (oifEm)
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Hmm, so John Daley (funny, there is a poster at the NJ.com forum I get on that used to use that name before it was banned) thinks we should be concerned over a couple who are apparently so lame that they both have jobs that pay them minimum wage? Heck, if they were both getting min wage, they would be making over $23K. Perhaps they should, as Raven suggest, look for new jobs. Also, maybe some education and a proper work ethic.
Posted by: William Teach at November 08, 2007 02:15 PM (NaHh8)
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Sorry, "work ethics," and "responsibility" are disallowed in the Utopian world of liberals today.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 02:34 PM (oifEm)
Posted by: William Teach at November 08, 2007 03:27 PM (NaHh8)
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No, no, it's not your fault. It's Bush's fault. And there's a government program to help you overcome your attraction to responsibility. It's called the "public education system."
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 03:57 PM (oifEm)
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Some people run into circumstances that truly place them in a bind. I had a friend who was married and they had four kids; she stayed at home to take care of the kids and he worked as a construction contractor.
He up and died one morning- while he was out running. No warning, in good health, ect...he held the insurance for the family. That ended 30 days after his death of course. Along with the family income. They had saved enough money for her to get by for 6 mos- make the house payments and all that. And he had life insurance. She paid off the house and car loans and nothing was left. She sold the house to get money to pay for a college education for herself (in nursing). She also used some of the money to cover living expenses such as an apartment, food, gas...her friends took care of her kids while she attended classes.
the family had no health insurance and no income to speak of...so she enrolled her kids in NH's Healthy Kids Program- which is S CHIP. She kept herself uninsured ( now she wouldn't be able to do that AND attend college- everyone has to be insured.) For three years she relied upon NHHK- and she had to pay premiums for this. I think it was around 30 a month for each kid...
After three yrs she got her degree and a good job at a local hospital. Now she is self reliant and doesn't except guvmint help; according to my states poverty levels though she STILL qualifies for S CHIP. When she got her first paycheck from her new career, she wrote a check to my state to pay back some of the money she "borrowed" using the program and she figures she has paid back every penny: She wrote checks every two weeks for a year. HOWS THAT for ethics??
I can hear the liberals now!
Posted by: Raven at November 08, 2007 04:10 PM (Vvbj+)
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Liberals simply cannot stand people like that. They hate them -- but they love the income they produce because that is where liberals get their money.
And funny you should mention NH and SCHIP -- I just talked to my brother. He has dropped ALL health insurance because he doesn't need it any more. His entire family just goes to the doctor and says, "No, we don't have insurance" -- and they get any and all medicine and health care they want. The "state" pays for everything.
And yes, he and his wife are employed. Her employer offers insurance. He could buy it -- but why bother when he doesn't actually get anything for it? Spending hundreds of dollars a month to buy something they can get for "free?" He can't see doing it.
Hold on to your wallet, Raven.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 04:13 PM (oifEm)
He should be aware that his kids cannot attend school, enroll in college or enter sports programs without insurance. I'm wondering HOW he did it? I cannot drop my insurance without proving I have another plan or assets to pay for my health care first. Does he work for a small firm that doesn't fall under the fed rules now? Interesting.
Posted by: Raven at November 08, 2007 04:41 PM (Vvbj+)
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I wouldn't call him a liberal. I'm not sure he's ever voted. He more a hippy than anything.
And his kids are in school. He is self-employed, so he just doesn't buy insurance. His wife works for ... wait for it ... THE SCHOOL DISTRICT and just refuses health insurance when they offer it to her.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 04:43 PM (oifEm)
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Well the kids are already in school so they don't KNOW they have no insurance. Just wait. Your brother will see....and she's just crazy to turn down a school district plan. She really is.
The school will make them enroll the kids in NHHK- for free if income is below poverty levels. Otherwise they will have to pay a premium which isn't much.
Posted by: Raven at November 08, 2007 04:54 PM (Vvbj+)
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Holy Cow... what a post and comments! First of all, I salute Raven's friend. She is obviously made from the same stock our grandparents were made from! Having been a single Mom myself, working 20 hrs a week for $4.50 an hour at my sons childcare (so he could attend private school), I went without insurance for a couple of years (My son was covered by his father's insurance, for which I was grateful). At any rate I'm still alive, and I don't feel like I owe anyone insurance. I pay out the wazoo to have the coverage I have, but I provide it for myself so anyone else can do it if they want it badly enough. Two things libs don't seem to have... accountablity and responsibility. I know... there I go being Politically Incorrect again! I came to my conservative point of view because I got tired of seeing all these people living the "entitlement lifestyle" off hard working peoples tax dollars. I struggled my way through school, lived in poverty while I did it, and nobody gave me a thing. I waited on tables at banquets and made a few dollars to put food in the house, and now that I can live deciently, I have liberals wanting to raise my taxes so middle class families can have healthcare! In the words of George Thorogood... GET A HAIRCUT and GET A REAL JOB!!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 05:11 PM (eaqGd)
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Raven, I don't think the kids are enrolled in any such program -- but even the parents are right now getting free medical care. He says they just say "no insurance" and no one asks anything else. Insane.
And do you notice the common thread here? Talking about responsibility and the like and people's histories? I guess I can relate, too, because at one point in my life I was honestly homeless and had nothing but a sea bag full of clothes. That was my entire life. As you can imagine, I got a job, saved money, and worked hard. Now I just get punished for working hard by paying for other people to NOT work...
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 05:39 PM (oifEm)
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I would like to buy an Island and right off the bat... no government. Everybody just takes care of things and works and lives and that's that! What about defense?... that's what the right to bear arms is all about. Make a co-op for power needs, everyone uses horses and buggies like the Amish, to get around the Island and NO TELEVISION. It's such a lovely dream. But of course I wake up... drat!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 05:53 PM (eaqGd)
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That's a dream many share -- and some think it can be done, here and now. Ever checked out the Free State Project?
http://www.freestateproject.org/
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 05:58 PM (oifEm)
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That is about the most awesome idea I've seen. Only if Ron Paul is part of it, the libs will probably figure out a way to stop it. The only thing I would feel hesitant about... there is snow there! I have always wanted to move south and get away from winter! Oh well, I drove through NH and Maine about 3 years ago, and it is a beautiful state. I'm going to check that out more closely when I'm not at work. LOL!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 06:18 PM (eaqGd)
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Hey, isn't that where Raven lives??? I bet she could put us all up for say... a few months! LOL!!! Just kidding Raven, don't go out purchase security hon!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 06:19 PM (eaqGd)
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Ron Paul actually isn't part of it -- this movement has been going on for years, just recently Paul found out about it and agreed with it.
And yes, Raven does live up there. That's one of the reasons they picked NH -- because there's already a lot of freedom-minded people there.
As for the snow -- move to the southern part of the state, they hardly get any any more, thanks to algore's global warming!
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 06:23 PM (oifEm)
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That is a very interesting project. And here I thought I wanted to retire to New Mexico or Arizona or something. LOL! Thank goodness for bad science and Al, now I can really have hope as he jets around speading his carbon signiture from coast to coast! Whew!!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 06:36 PM (eaqGd)
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There's already 400+ people who have moved, and now over 8,000 have pledged to move. And just 400 are already having an effect. They're having a convention of sorts in January, and at least one of NH's senators are scheduled to attend.
They're gaining speed. And I think this is just about the only chance for true liberty left in America today.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 06:50 PM (oifEm)
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My birthday is in January, maybe I'll treat myself to a convention. I think Peterborough is where they make really cool baskets. It is an intriguing thought, though I would think the existance of such a state would make the people in power very nervous.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 06:57 PM (eaqGd)
And yes, such a state does make a lot of power mongers nervous. People associated with the Free State are often attacked in the press and have been harassed by federal agents (even ones that aren't using civil disobedience).
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 07:05 PM (oifEm)
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Since my b-day's on the 9th, that would be just about perfect. And as far as harrassment goes... doesn't scare me. After all, Freedom isn't free (as you well know). I just want to hear for myself what it is like to live in a state where you are truly free. Also, a state who's Primary molds many opinions politically.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 07:10 PM (eaqGd)
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I'm thinking about getting up there for that, but I'm not sure I'll have the cash for the trip...and driving from my house to there is about 13 hours...
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 07:46 PM (oifEm)
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I remember going to Canada, and I flew into Manchester for about $80 on SouthWorst via Indy-Chicago-Manchester. I then rented a Sunbird pretty cheap and made my way to New Brunswick.
I just try to look for travel deals and book early so I can get a deeper discount sometimes and at least get the price locked in. I may look into Amtrak too and see if they go near there. I guess I'm just cheap and lazy when it comes to travel. LOL!!!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 08:01 PM (eaqGd)
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I'd take SW in a minute -- but the people in power in Charlotte will not permit them in. They pay US Air, US Air pays them, and the people get what US Air wants.
Amtrak is good, but you can't get past Boston. If you want an hour or two drive up from Boston, the train works well (I did that one year).
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 08:05 PM (oifEm)
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I think SW goes to the Raliegh-Durham airport to if you wanted to make that drive. I can see many possibilities if you don't mind jumping through a hoop or two. I never do if theres a good savings involved. :-)
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 08:11 PM (eaqGd)
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I once flew from Charlotte to Manchester, NH via Chicago...because it was $200 cheaper. Oh, I'll jump 'em.
And hey, if it's timed just right, the NH Primary may be just days after this conference.
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 08:18 PM (oifEm)
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 08:20 PM (eaqGd)
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Hey, they had a Porcupine Fest in June that looks like it was pretty cool.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 08:28 PM (eaqGd)
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I missed that one by a week -- I was in NH the week after it was held. Darn work obligations...
Posted by: Ogre at November 08, 2007 08:33 PM (oifEm)
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Work can be a drag and definately cuts into freedom a bit, but without it, there is no freedom from government... so, there ya have it.
It looks like Nashua is right between Beantown and Manchester, so either option would be worthy as a destination for discount airfare or train.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 08:36 PM (eaqGd)
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NH is still a great state to live in. No income tax. No overmeddling guvmint YET...we need more self reliant people to come up and help keep it FREE. The weather isn't that bad...sheesh...and when it is its great for winter sports! Mostly small towns with lots of character and ambiance...I wouldn't live anywhere else.
Posted by: Raven at November 08, 2007 09:28 PM (5xw89)
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Hummmmm... sounds terrific Raven. I will most definately plan on checking it out come January.
That ought to tell me all I need to know about winter and my tolerance, eh? It does sound lovely there.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 08, 2007 09:55 PM (eaqGd)
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Well, I think we all know who "John Daley is now... Meaty needs to just give it up! I hope he has a "union card" because with all the cherry picking he does, he will need to show proof that he is doing it legally!
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 04:27 AM (TzKlC)
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Them liberals are trying to screw up New Hampshire right now, real bad. Can you say, "Smoking ban on private property?"
But hopefully more freedom loving people will move there and the nanny-staters will move away. Hey, I can hope.
As for John being Meaty, I don't think so. Meaty sees the world through his own slanted vision and absolutely cannot comprehend reality. John appears to be able to comprehend reality, he just doesn't like it or freedom very much.
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 02:02 PM (oifEm)
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I have been thinking that if I like NH in January, I may just commit. I think in 5 years I can settle things here, get rid of my house and be free to go. I could truly commit to such a project and saving a great state from having a "tradition of freedom" lost to the same liberalism that is destroying freedom everywhere else. Sounds like a good thing if I can get the money together to do it, I'll go in January.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:11 PM (eaqGd)
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There's battles for freedom ongoing today. I just honestly thing that NH has the best chance of actually winning right now. The more freedom-lovers that move there, the better that chance!
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 05:12 PM (oifEm)
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Well, I'm convenced that it is something to be considered as a viable option and checked out.
I went through the 101 reasons to go there last night, and they were impressive reasons.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 05:40 PM (eaqGd)
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I LOVE that 101 reasons list! And really, some people have already moved and are already making a difference. You have to be a resident for 2 years before you can run for state office -- and many new movers are getting ready to do that soon, too!
Posted by: Ogre at November 09, 2007 06:08 PM (oifEm)
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It sounds so exciting. I would just be happy to be a voter and participate in a more intelligent political system. You know, support the people that want to live free and productive lives.
Posted by: HoosierArmyMom at November 09, 2007 08:12 PM (eaqGd)
