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Yes, the First Amendment Is On the Ballot

James Madison power.jpg

The quote posted is from an Essay by James Madison in the National Gazette, March 27, 1792. Here's another passage from the essay, followed by the link to the entire essay.

That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest.

founders.archive.gov

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The Indispensable Man and the Indispensable Right

By James Banakis, at John Kass News

Almost all the world’s constitutions are documents in which the government tells the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which

‘We the People tell the government what it is allowed to do. –

President Reagan’s farewell address 1989.

Who was the most indispensable American in our 248-year history? My choice, without question, is James Madison. Many would call Madison a slaveholding, white supremacist, and discount anything he wrote as out of touch with our 21st century values. The reality is his legacy and his vision is eternal.

In the years immediately after the revolution, our central government was adrift. Many of the founders wanted to create a monarchy, or have each state exist independently. Our constitution was primarily the creation of one man, Madison. The main body of the constitution is the blueprint for how our three branches of government operate independent of each other. His enduring concept created a strong but limited and self-policing government.

Madison’s true genius however was, The Bill of Rights: the first ten amendments. He understood how dangerous an unrestrained government could become. To protect the individual those first ten amendments are our sacred guarantees and protections against big government, despots, and repression. He wrote,

“The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable.”

All our constitutional rights enumerated are uniquely American and absolute. There is no freedom of speech in Canada or Great Britain which grants free speech to Parliament, but not the public. Today people in those countries are being imprisoned for speech someone in power took offense to. In Scotland, you can now be imprisoned for misgendering someone. For at least the past 12 years, our constitution and more specifically the Bill of Rights have been under attack from the new Progressives. They especially dislike the first two amendments.

There is a lot of good information in this piece. You may want to read the whole thing.

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The First Amendment Is On the Ballot

On Tuesday, Ace wrote a detailed post on censorship. At the end of the post is a video showing Kamala Harris determined to censor social media (with others including law enforcement, "as a community"?). Scary. Imagine "Community Notes" on "X" based on feelings instead of facts. Or maybe you could imagine being arrested for something deemed offensive which you posted on social media, as now happens in the UK.

Kamala Harris hasn't often seemed this combative since starting the "JOY" phase of her campaign. I don't expect that the "JOY" would last if she were elected President.

Partway into Ace's post (below the Jive Turkey), you can also find an excerpt and link, to which Ace reported a rather unusual personal reaction:

Matt Taibbi delivered an absolute barnburner of a speech on the Government-Censorship Complex.

Ace's entire post is worth a bookmark. Perhaps you might like to re-read it. Or read Taibbi's speech, which had such a remarkable effect on Ace.

But we're coming up on the election, and I ran across some encouragement from Taibbi's older friend Walter Kirn for the weekend, on the related topic of free speech:

The 1st Amendment is on the ballot

My right to post that "The 1st Amendment is on the ballot" is on the ballot

And so is your right to read this

1 or 0

1 or 0

Choose

Walter Kirn

Pass it on.

The tweet above came shortly after this one. You might see a couple of names you recognize in the replies. People in the "free speech coalition" are not all "Ultra-Maga Rethuglicans". And most of them - even people whose style is not provocative, like Walter Kirn - have paid a price for taking a stand:

I've done all I could this year, and perhaps more than I should have, to clarify the issues before us and characterize the nature of our moment. I didn't do it for the money, and there hasn't been any. In fact, I lost some. Happily. My personal American dream involved becoming a writer and an artist, see, and expressing myself as well as I knew how and as freely as I dared. This year, for the first time in my life, I saw that the opportunity to chase this dream was gravely, gravely threatened, not just for me but for the kids and young people who are much like I was once, an odd little kid who was trying to find his voice. To keep this great road of possibility open seemed to me the highest mission I could assign myself. I did. It's been an adventure. And such a pleasure.

But now it's time for words to turn to action. It's time for us to protect what we hold dear. For me it is our right to speak, think, and create freely, without fear, or at least without fear from the authorities and the moneyed interests and powers that lie behind them.

I hope I've made a difference in this cause. I hope I've convinced some others to join me in it. And to act accordingly, democratically, as is our right and duty.

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Random Observations

Matt Taibbi notes that Kamala Harris did convince at least one person that she was tough by agreeing to an interview on Fox News:

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Remember that Tim Walz' education appointee in Minnesota isn't content to overthrow the First Amendment, he wants to overthrow the USA.

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Music

Autumn, The Four Seasons

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, October 12, Renaissance People

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Nice response from a lurker:

I greatly enjoyed your post on renaissance people and I wanted to write in about the best example I know of, my father.

My dad hated school, barely got through his senior year of highschool, and started working for the phone company in D.C. rather than go to university. There he learned the basics of electric work and met my mom. Her brother taught him carpentry, masonry, bricklaying, and framing, as well as fine tool work. While Mom finished up her degree in pre-columbian mesoamerican history (yeah yeah I know), and was working her way up to VP level in a mortgage bank, Dad pre-read and highlighted all her textbooks and started learning to love learning again. When mom quit her job to raise us kids, Dad went back to school to get a teaching degree (and then a masters in education), teaching history, culture, economics, politics, game theory, Shakespeare, and the development of western art to 6-12th graders over 20+ years. Meanwhile, he taught himself theology, philosophy, plumbing, tile work, duct work, spot welding, forging, candle making, stained-glass, took apart computers to replace batteries and motherboards, automotive repair, along with shooting, golf, bowling, baseball, archery, swimming, and tai chi. Any friend who had any skill usually ended up with my dad as a student.

Dad is the man people in my church come to when they need help with something. There are very, VERY, few problems he can’t solve (mostly because he hasn’t bought that particular tool…yet) But most important of all, he passes on what he’s learned. I can cook the mother sauces and frame out a wall and change the oil in my car and read Chaucer and homeschool my sons because my father taught me to do all those things.

The internet (especially the amateur specialists of YouTube) is a gift to men like my dad. There is ALWAYS something new to learn, some new skill to sharpen. I hope to grow my own skill set to maybe match a tenth of my dad’s.

Anywho, thanks for letting this lurker prattle on a little bit. Greatly enjoy all the weekend threads, please keep up the good work.

I hope your week is blessed and peaceful.

We have a great community out there. I can think of some who may be having a particularly fine time today.


Posted by: K.T. at 11:00 AM




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1 Yes, it is. Vote accordingly.

Posted by: Ann at October 19, 2024 11:01 AM (SJ9B/)

2 Good morning KT
Seems tje Joy has left the Kamaunist campaign

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 11:03 AM (fwDg9)

3 I don't think I seen any Joy related slogan in a couple weeks.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 11:05 AM (fwDg9)

4 Look, @SenSchumer was chatting it up with Hitler last night and wasn't concerned about his safety in the least!

Trump said at the Al Smith dinner that he wrote the first campaign check for Schumer when Schumer first ran for office.

1) I'm sure that's true.

2) The last thing Schumer wants is for Trump to be publicly pointing that out.

Posted by: The Deep State! at October 19, 2024 11:05 AM (uxCna)

5 Opposite end of the music spectrum from Vivaldi: Detroit Cobra

(No, really, you -gotta- see them... ;-)

Posted by: As not seen on TV at October 19, 2024 11:06 AM (dH3Sc)

6 Walz is a putz....and he's bad at that, too.

Posted by: BignJames at October 19, 2024 11:06 AM (Yj6Os)

7 See the one about the Brit guy who was near an abortion abattoir, and with his back to the place was silently praying for the dead son he drove his then girlfriend to, years ago, to have aborted?

Cops came over and asked him what he was doing. Of course, being a decent, moral Christian, he didn't lie to them.

So he's been charged with a crime: Praying for his dead baby near the place where they kill babies.

This is England. Whatever else you think England is, doesn't matter. This is what the place is now.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:06 AM (SL4ba)

8 They're still not desparate enough to deploy the joy divisions, however.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 19, 2024 11:07 AM (BwCX0)

9 So he's been charged with a crime: Praying for his dead baby near the place where they kill babies.

This is England. Whatever else you think England is, doesn't matter. This is what the place is now.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:06 AM (SL4ba)

Oh, sorry. Not just charged, now convicted. Judge sentence him, saying you can't be silently praying near the nation's place of worship.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:08 AM (SL4ba)

10 Good morning KT
Seems tje Joy has left the Kamaunist campaign


Not to worry. Blame, bile, and bitterness and have moved in to fill the void.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:08 AM (xCA6C)

11 Walz is a putz....and he's bad at that, too.
Posted by: BignJames at October 19, 2024 11:06 AM (Yj6Os)

Only thing he's really good at is molesting young boys.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:09 AM (SL4ba)

12 What has happened to England is truly sickening. Such a long and glorious history down the drain.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 19, 2024 11:09 AM (BwCX0)

13 The very fact that Kumswala is competitive in ANY race is a damning indictment of our failing country.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 19, 2024 11:10 AM (1FWWQ)

14 It's not just at the federal level.
If she wins, blue states are going to go full Nazi on free speech safe in the knowledge that there's no one to hold them back.

No media will be allowed to the right of MSNBC.

Look at DU saying Trump had a horrible week and Harris had one of the best weeks ever. Insane.
That's because they consume only propaganda.
And that's all that will be left if she wins.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 19, 2024 11:10 AM (Qlpv5)

15 David Siders@davidsiders
‘Canada, if they’ll take us’: Worried Michigan Democrats contemplate a Trump win

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If the Canadians had any sense, they won't take you. Fortunately, that won't be a problem.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)

16 Willowed:

He will never understand the work of a United Auto Worker

Remind me again who the rank-and-file Teamsters support.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)

17 What has happened to England is truly sickening. Such a long and glorious history down the drain.

This is how you get civil wars. I hope they come to understand that.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)

18 Trump said at the Al Smith dinner that he wrote the first campaign check for Schumer when Schumer first ran for office.

1) I'm sure that's true.

2) The last thing Schumer wants is for Trump to be publicly pointing that out.
Posted by: The Deep State! at October 19, 2024 11:05 AM (uxCna)

I only saw a clip or two of that event, but the best part was seeing the ugly, evil mug of Schummer, sitting there with Trump at the pulpit, in charge.

Where is your so-called intelligence community now, the ones who were going to silence Trump, Schummer, you evil piece of shit.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:12 AM (SL4ba)

19 This is how you get civil wars. I hope they come to understand that.

Before a CW starts, that is.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:12 AM (xCA6C)

20 >>They're still not desparate enough to deploy the joy divisions, however.

They've already tried to murder him. Twice. I think they're pretty desperate.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 11:12 AM (LkLld)

21 ‘Canada, if they’ll take us’: Worried Michigan Democrats contemplate a Trump win

LOL. And then what do you do when Poilievre wins in a year?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:13 AM (uxCna)

22 Interesting that Madison published that essay in 1792, four years after the Constitution was ratified. Clearly there was much discussion in the newly formed Republic about which way the federal government would go..

230 years later we know which way it went.

Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:14 AM (uCfKO)

23
Remember, your rights are a gift from the government. It will tell you how far you can exercise them. Terms and conditions can change without prior notice.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 19, 2024 11:14 AM (EsZUh)

24 Watched a football game yesterday on a Canadian stream, and saw many Canadian TV commercials. They don't seem consumed with wokeness as are American TV commercials.

Posted by: Diggity Schwag at October 19, 2024 11:15 AM (/7KEl)

25 ‘Canada, if they’ll take us’: Worried Michigan Democrats contemplate a Trump win

Try Iran.

Posted by: BignJames at October 19, 2024 11:15 AM (Yj6Os)

26 Great content as always K.T.

My choice for indispensable man would be George Washington (another white cisgender slaveholder); we wouldn’t exist without him. But I’d put Madison, Hamilton and Jefferson together as the intellectual founders of the country (Washington was a man of action). They all wrote so beautifully. I believe Hamilton wrote the bulk of the federalist papers and he and Madison were allied in getting the constitution ratified. I’ve forgotten what led to their falling out but that was unfortunate for the country

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 19, 2024 11:16 AM (ANuwa)

27 What has happened to England is truly sickening. Such a long and glorious history down the drain.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 19, 2024 11:09 AM (BwCX0)

Europe is in a massive suicide spiral, and some of them I say good riddance, but England... they're our foundational state, the parent we rebelled against, and ultimately came back to love again.

All that is over.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:16 AM (SL4ba)

28 21 ‘Canada, if they’ll take us’: Worried Michigan Democrats contemplate a Trump win

You know, it's not all Poutine and Molson's up here, eh?

Posted by: A random Canadian at October 19, 2024 11:16 AM (PiwSw)

29 Beast Midler speaks!

bettemidler@BetteMidler
#ElonMusk is doing his best to steal this election from citizens who were born here and have lived their lives adhering to the law. He’s buying votes for a felon and a psychopath. He hates illegal immigrants, but he’s an immigrant himself. #ResistElon! You’re paying his way!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:16 AM (L/fGl)

30 ***Almost all the world’s constitutions are documents in which the government tells the people what their privileges are. Our Constitution is a document in which
‘We the People tell the government what it is allowed to do. –***
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Obama hates that. He calls it negative rights. He wants a constitution with positive rights. In other words he wants a constitution that lists the rights of what the government can do to you.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 11:16 AM (qKe5f)

31 Yeah, if Kamala "wins", things are going to move very, very quickly - they're not going to wait until Kamala officially takes office to start the crackdown.

People are going to quickly find themselves in the position of Canadians who donated $25 to the trucker protests, only to find that that got you all your financial accounts frozen.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:17 AM (uxCna)

32 Walz is a putz.

********

Do you know what else has four letters and ends in "z"?

Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:18 AM (uCfKO)

33 Also, I read some of that British judge's ruling on the guy who prayed outside the abortion mill. Judge went into great detail about how the man's body position- head bent, hands clasped- could reasonably be expected by passers-by to appear as religious and prayerful in nature, and thus a violation.

Posted by: Diggity Schwag at October 19, 2024 11:19 AM (/7KEl)

34 I am hopeful Trump will be able to beat the steal, that the election results will be certified, and that the deep state fails with their plan b. And that he spends ample time settling scores, forcibly ejecting illegals, and giving Leviathan as much of the Fargo treatment as possible. But in the end, we will only be 4 years away from the democrat commie cancer resuming their wholesale destruction of our nation and way of life. As wonderful as Trump is, without sufficiently strong replacement MAGA girders, he will be but the luxurioius gold spray paint on the badly rusted metal frame of the Republic.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 19, 2024 11:19 AM (BwCX0)

35 He wants a constitution with positive rights.

Like the late sainted RBG, who frequently noted that foreign constitutions, such as the South African constitution, were far superior to the US Constitution.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:19 AM (uxCna)

36
Europe is in a massive suicide spiral, and some of them I say good riddance

_________

Europe is your uncle who always talks about how he scored four touchdowns in that game with State. But he's had a string of bad marriages, lost his money in bad investments and is showing signs of dementia. He still tells you you'll never measure up to him.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 19, 2024 11:19 AM (EsZUh)

37 ***In the years immediately after the revolution, our central government was adrift. ***
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Blows through ten years under the Article of Confederation.
History, we much?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 11:20 AM (qKe5f)

38 They're still not desparate enough to deploy the joy divisions, however.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 19, 2024 11:07 AM (BwCX0)

I almost envy young folk who, due to the better aspects of the internet, discover Joy Division for the first time.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:20 AM (SL4ba)

39 Who was the most indispensable American in our 248-year history? My choice, without question, is James Madison.

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James Madison? THE James Madison?

Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:21 AM (uCfKO)

40 I believe Hamilton wrote the bulk of the federalist papers and he and Madison were allied in getting the constitution ratified. I’ve forgotten what led to their falling out but that was unfortunate for the country

IIRC, Jefferson was whispering in his ear about state's rights, especially slavery. Both were slaveholders.

Hamilton was for a much stronger federal system.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)

41 What has happened to England is truly sickening. Such a long and glorious history down the drain.

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Where's a good Viking raid now that we need it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

42 Like the late sainted RBG, who frequently noted that foreign constitutions, such as the South African constitution, were far superior to the US Constitution.

I mean, "progressives" have hated the US Constitution for a century, but they now they think that they are on the cusp of having so much power that they can finally abolish it.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:22 AM (uxCna)

43 Do you know what else has four letters and ends in "z"?

Deez nutz?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)

44 One thing that has always sort of chafed, our greatest politicians would always be talking about "American Values" and anodyne or vague BS, particularly or especially with regard to the rest of the world. Never anything concrete or specific.

During the cold war, Free Speech was. Generally, we've never heard anything from the state department folks or politicians that a written constitution guaranteeing or acknowledging basic human individual rights would be the model for the rest of the world.

About the best we ever heard was vague stuff about "Democracy" since the 1950s. When George W. Bush brought "Democracy" to Iraq they all voted for total Sharia and Moslem stuff. Contrary to what we were sold on the TV, there really weren't too many John Adams or Patrick Henrys running around Baghdad.

But it's clear that everybody who suggests the US is all that and a bag of chips, they clearly have no plans to recommend our constitution or bill of rights or any of that Liberty stuff. Why is that do you suppose? It is glaring in absence. Deafening in silence. Not a peep, ever.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 11:22 AM (wjURd)

45 ***They especially dislike the first two amendments.***
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Which are an impediment to abolishing the rest.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 11:23 AM (qKe5f)

46 "Where's a good Viking raid now that we need it?"

* Cues up Pawn Stars meme *

Best I can do is a tidal wave of Muslims.

Posted by: PabloD at October 19, 2024 11:23 AM (BRRyz)

47 Do you know what else has four letters and ends in "z"?

Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:18 AM (uCfKO)

Drawing a blank here.

Posted by: BignJames at October 19, 2024 11:23 AM (Yj6Os)

48 Morning.

You want to know who the real force behind the US Constitution was?

John Rutledge, chairman of the Committee Of Detail.

Rutledge and the committee basically committed to paper a lot of ideas that the Convention barely touched on. Most everything in Article I, Section 8 for example was pulled out of the committee's ass and approved by the Convention without objection.

Posted by: Robert at October 19, 2024 11:24 AM (BQlLi)

49 Didn’t Robert Bork many years ago write a book called “Slouching Towards Gomorrah”? Never read it but the title is descriptive…. We seem to be collectively slouching towards a catastrophe where in this context “slouching” suggests a rather lazy falling and lack of effort or awareness. How many of our fellow citizens to you suppose even sense the dangers of a Kamala presidency? I’d hazard to guess a tiny percentage… we are on the brink and 80% of people just go on about their lives oblivious. I happen to think Trump is gonna win so they’ll escape and won’t even know how close to danger they were…. Trump will win because people are tired of the open border and high prices…. And not even care about free speech

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 19, 2024 11:24 AM (ANuwa)

50 But in the end, we will only be 4 years away from the democrat commie cancer resuming their wholesale destruction of our nation and way of life. As wonderful as Trump is, without sufficiently strong replacement MAGA girders, he will be but the luxurioius gold spray paint on the badly rusted metal frame of the Republic.

In the end, that's always true. However, I consider our candidates in '28 to be possibly the strongest we've ever had, but certainly in modern times. Trump must start the process of rolling back the fascist encroachments, and the new generation must carry that on.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:24 AM (xCA6C)

51 Any discussion of a indispensable man amongst our founders begins with Washington but a close second is Franklin. He was the wise older man to the others and was instrumental in the birth of the nation

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 19, 2024 11:24 AM (YUtTn)

52 Wow! Even Hakeem Jefferies endorses Trump!

Hakeem Jeffries@RepJeffries
Has anyone else had enough of the malignant clown show?
America deserves a return to normalcy.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:25 AM (L/fGl)

53 Didn’t Robert Bork many years ago write a book called “Slouching Towards Gomorrah”? Never read it but the title is descriptive….

He did, and it's excellent. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:25 AM (xCA6C)

54 People are going to quickly find themselves in the position of Canadians who donated $25 to the trucker protests, only to find that that got you all your financial accounts frozen.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:17 AM (uxCna)

Yep, they have to crack down. If they manage to win, they can't leave this for another four years.

Trump will go to prison, Musk will go to prison, they'll round up the big names first, and then... the rest of us. You'll obey or you will be silenced and broken.

They can't leave this to chance anymore. I try not to predict, but I bet if Cumswallow wins, Chi Nah and Russia act, in concert, to take this down, because they can't wait for us to take the final form of the Destructor.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:26 AM (SL4ba)

55 >>As wonderful as Trump is, without sufficiently strong replacement MAGA girders, he will be but the luxurioius gold spray paint on the badly rusted metal frame of the Republic.

The presidential race gets almost all of the coverage for obvious reasons but there's a very good chance that both houses of congress go Republican as well. And people running for the Senate like Moreno in Ohio and Sheehy and Lake in AZ and McCormick in PA are Trump supporters.

Of the 4 Lake looks the shakiest but both Moreno and Sheehy have a really good shot. I don't think they are just worried about Harris at this point. They are worried about down ballot races too.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 11:27 AM (LkLld)

56 Do you know what else has four letters and ends in "z"?

Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:18 AM (uCfKO)

Naval fuzz?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2024 11:29 AM (VNX3d)

57 How about the governor of NC saying that some areas shouldn't be rebuilt. People own properties in those areas. Shouldn't we expect the state government to rebuild their roads and water treatment plants if possible?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 11:29 AM (gfViB)

58 Trump is literally Hitler.
But he de-Hitlerizes himself for a couple of hours to attend galas.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:30 AM (8xEbs)

59 Of the 4 Lake looks the shakiest but both Moreno and Sheehy have a really good shot. I don't think they are just worried about Harris at this point. They are worried about down ballot races too.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 11:27 AM (LkLld)

Lake is like Trump, only way she loses is if they cheat... again.

There's no way she would have lost in '22, if not for the massive fraud. One difference between then and now, I don't believe the McCain wing of the party is actively working against her, as they were in '22.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 11:30 AM (SL4ba)

60 21 ‘Canada, if they’ll take us’: Worried Michigan Democrats contemplate a Trump win

Whoa! Since when does a country get a vote in who crosses their borders to take up residence!?!?!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 19, 2024 11:30 AM (JCZqz)

61 Do you know what else has four letters and ends in "z"?
Posted by: muldoon

I know what has 4 letters and has a z near the end...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 19, 2024 11:30 AM (BwCX0)

62 Joel Kotkin is a frustrating man.

He is one of the best commentators on urban geography and what is happening to the United States (particularly California), but Trump Derangement Syndrome has eaten his brain, so he can't acknowledge that the solution to the accelerating decline of the United States is, you know, to vote for Trump.

He has a new article out justifying his upcoming vote for Harris:

Can the West survive four years of Harris or Trump?
Neither candidate is capable of restoring America’s faith in itself.


Yeah, you see, we are faced with the choice of "two awful candidates", so it really doesn't matter who you vote for.

He also says:

The saddest sign of imperial decay has been the mounting attack on free speech, the cornerstone of liberal democracy. Oddly, the right now defends the very liberal values it long opposed, while the progressive establishment schemes to destroy them.

Care to explain when the Right supported mass censorship, Joel?

No matter - he's looking for an excuse to still vote for Kamala.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:31 AM (uxCna)

63 Hey! I thought we had the bestest economy ever!

New York Post@nypost
CNN’s Jake Tapper, Wolf Blitzer reportedly denied raises while Chris Wallace asked to take pay cut

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I was sure the return of Tater would fix everything!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:31 AM (L/fGl)

64 How about the governor of NC saying that some areas shouldn't be rebuilt. People own properties in those areas. Shouldn't we expect the state government to rebuild their roads and water treatment plants if possible?

I assume he's referring to the folly of rebuilding in areas where a recurrence is likely, just as it's foolish to keep replacing homes on sand bars in the Outer Banks. If you want to spend your money doing it, fine, but don't demand that I pay for it.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:31 AM (xCA6C)

65 Thank you KT for yet another wonderful thread. Instead of "scary" I prefer "enraging". Small minded totalitarians who want to dictate other peoples thoughts are outrageous.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 19, 2024 11:32 AM (x5mxQ)

66 I thought if Hildabeast won tje Gulags would open, they have actually with Biden. But sure the pace would quicken with Kamaunist. All political protesters might wind up in the DC prison.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 11:32 AM (fwDg9)

67 60 21 ‘Canada, if they’ll take us’: Worried Michigan Democrats contemplate a Trump win

Whoa! Since when does a country get a vote in who crosses their borders to take up residence!?!?!
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 19, 2024 11:30 AM (JCZqz)

It would be hilarious if they tried, and were forced to resettle in an area of Quebec that refuses to speak (or claim to understand) English, only Canadian French.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2024 11:32 AM (VNX3d)

68 57 How about the governor of NC saying that some areas shouldn't be rebuilt. People own properties in those areas. Shouldn't we expect the state government to rebuild their roads and water treatment plants if possible?
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 11:29 AM (gfViB)

Buikdroads? Like for cars? That pollute!!! Hell no. The money should be spent on a subway system instead.
- Left

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:32 AM (8xEbs)

69 I've had some success with getting across to people about "fundamental rights" that the totalitarians keep harping about.

You've certain rights by virtue of being born human. They just are, and always have been. That doesn't mean somebody can't take them away. That's a different issue.

The government can't "give" you anything, and even if it could, that makes it big enough to take anything from you too. See Also: Last 5,000 years human history.

The constitution and bill of rights was outlining this concept. Your "inalienable" or unalienable rights are those that don't require anyone else to perform on your behalf.

So for example, "Free Unlimited Wi-Fi is a Fundamental Human Right!!" is bullshit. And there are people who suggest internet access is a fundamental human right.

Freedom of speech, the right of self-defense, freedom to worship, freedom from being locked up arbitrarily, the right to be left the hell alone, none of this requires anybody else to do anything.

A constitution that had to ennumerate or list every "right" would eventually become infinite, or near enough. Like the United States Code or whatever. It is an unworkable philosophy.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 11:32 AM (wjURd)

70 Joel Kotkin is a frustrating man.

He is one of the best commentators on urban geography and what is happening to the United States (particularly California), but Trump Derangement Syndrome has eaten his brain, so he can't acknowledge that the solution to the accelerating decline of the United States is, you know, to vote for Trump.


I couldn't agree more. It is frustrating.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:33 AM (xCA6C)

71 Trump will go to prison, Musk will go to prison, they'll round up the big names first, and then... the rest of us. You'll obey or you will be silenced and broken.

Expect to hear the word "debanking" a lot if Harris "wins".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:33 AM (uxCna)

72 Schumer and Trump chatting it up and the Cardinal wants his chair. too funny.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 11:33 AM (qKe5f)

73 Of the 4 Lake looks the shakiest but both Moreno and Sheehy have a really good shot. I don't think they are just worried about Harris at this point. They are worried about down ballot races too.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 11:27 AM (LkLld)

Jack — Why do you think Lake struggles so much? I saw on RCP this morning the latest poll there has her down 9 to Gallego the commie while Trump is winning AZ. There can’t be that many ticket splitters….. she’s articulate and strong and attractive. I don’t get it

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 19, 2024 11:34 AM (6RwsA)

74 Barron Trump was debanked .

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:35 AM (8xEbs)

75 A constitution that had to ennumerate or list every "right" would eventually become infinite, or near enough. Like the United States Code or whatever. It is an unworkable philosophy.
Posted by: CommonTater

True, but I think with that design, the list would somehow be kept conveniently short, and cropped occasionally.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 19, 2024 11:35 AM (BwCX0)

76 the dangers of a Kamala presidency?

She'll word-salad whatever positions she's told to and we'll be used to make her succeed.

Posted by: DaveA at October 19, 2024 11:36 AM (PMJuY)

77 My home has been on the sandbar of the Outer Banks for over 30 years. No rebuild here because I am up on pilings and not on the oceanfront. If you look at the figures for flood insurance payouts, you will see that most of the money is spent inland. Huge Amount was spent in Raleigh because there are developments built On dry riverbeds that flood.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at October 19, 2024 11:36 AM (hTBp0)

78 Barron Trump was debanked .

Contemplate for a moment the level of pettyness that was required for that action. He's a kid starting college, you evil little people.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:36 AM (xCA6C)

79 My guess on AZ is a lot of Hispanics voting for Trump but also “one of their own” for senate.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:38 AM (8xEbs)

80 Madison is proof that an excellent philosopher does not always make for an excellent leader.
In his afterlife he serves Andrew Jackson as butler.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 19, 2024 11:38 AM (byeIv)

81 Contemplate for a moment the level of pettyness that was required for that action. He's a kid starting college, you evil little people.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:36 AM (xCA6C)

If they can do it to him they can do it to all of us. That’s the message.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:39 AM (8xEbs)

82 My home has been on the sandbar of the Outer Banks for over 30 years. No rebuild here because I am up on pilings and not on the oceanfront. If you look at the figures for flood insurance payouts, you will see that most of the money is spent inland. Huge Amount was spent in Raleigh because there are developments built On dry riverbeds that flood.

Congratulations on your good fortune. I mean it. As long as you assume the risk of your investment, more power to you. It isn't all that difficult to predict which places are likely to flood again, or burn, or whatever. WHEREVER this happens, it's stupid to keep rebuilding.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:39 AM (xCA6C)

83 New York Post@nypost
I’m a McDonald’s chef — Trump has no idea how difficult it is to be a french fry cook

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"McDonald's chef"? I wonder how many Michelin stars he gets.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

84 A constitution that had to ennumerate or list every "right" would eventually become infinite, or near enough.

One of the characteristics of "superior" foreign constitutions is that they tend to be very, very long.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:40 AM (uxCna)

85 Or put another way, the basis for the American system of government, property rights, free enterprise, sound currency, rule of law, etc etc brought more people out of abject poverty and servitude than any other form in world history, and it isn't even close.

The Soviets and the Chinese were able to do some amazing things, it is true, but this was all done at the point of gun, literally.



Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 11:41 AM (wjURd)

86 I have no problem, assuming the risk of my investment, I have always stood on my own 2 feet. Unfortunately the government makes me pay for flood insurance that I neither need nor want and they use that money to pay for illegal immigrant housing.

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at October 19, 2024 11:42 AM (hTBp0)

87 Robert Bork indeed wrote a “Slouching Towards Gomorrah”. That title was ... eye-rollingly bad. I hope it was thrust upon him by his publisher.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 19, 2024 11:42 AM (byeIv)

88 >230 years later we know which way it went.
Posted by: muldoon
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It's not over yet.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFrpzPR6TLY

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 11:42 AM (qKe5f)

89 Did Trump say working at Micky Ds is easy? I missed it.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:43 AM (8xEbs)

90 If they can do it to him they can do it to all of us. That’s the message.

Social credit system.

Besides debanking, they'll also do things like massively expand the "no-fly" list to cover political offenses.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:43 AM (uxCna)

91 Insurance scam.

https://is.gd/eEIGN1

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:43 AM (L/fGl)

92 >>Jack — Why do you think Lake struggles so much? I saw on RCP this morning the latest poll there has her down 9 to Gallego the commie while Trump is winning AZ. There can’t be that many ticket splitters….. she’s articulate and strong and attractive. I don’t get it

My own guess is that she is up against a Republican Party in AZ that was long dominated by McCain Republicans and likely still is to a large degree. In other words, uniparty. One of if not the biggest foreign policy allies Biden had in the Senate was McCain. The same McCain that was balls deep in Ukraine and was so tight with the intel community he was an early and key member of the Russia hoax. Just like Kinzinger, Cheney and others. One of the biggest donors to the McCain Institute, another money laundering device, was George Soros.

She is running against them as much as Democrats just like Trump. And of course there has been likely still is rampant cheating in places like Maricopa Country. No doubt in my mind that she won the governors race just like Trump won the presidency. She needs to beat the cheat just like Trump. It ain't easy being green.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 11:44 AM (LkLld)

93 Hot enough for ya??

QalaatM @QalaatM 3h
20 more Hezbollah fatalities announced past days by local sources.
First was a senior commander who fought in Syria.
Others are commanders & fighters. At least 4 of them were killed in clashes in Ayta Shab (border front, dubbed "Death Triangle" by Leb. sources).
📸 #815 -> #834

https://is.gd/lwGDeg
photo montage

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at October 19, 2024 11:44 AM (hovnC)

94 79 My guess on AZ is a lot of Hispanics voting for Trump but also “one of their own” for senate.
Posted by: Settled Science

She lost...it's very hard to comeback from losing a campaign. There's also a pool of candidates that the base has liked (Lake, Palin, Cruz(?)) that always seem to struggle. Never sure how much is they have a weird personality quirk that discourages people, and how much is a successful Lefty campaign to poison public opinion of the person.

I can't think of an equivalent on the Left...i want to say Beto or Wendy Davis, but they ultimately lost in Texas, which they were almost guaranteed to lose from the start.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 19, 2024 11:44 AM (JCZqz)

95 Covid vaccines provided a preview of how they will allocate health care. Remember how non whites were at the top of the list for getting the clot shot?

This will accelerate. If yiu are caught saying or thinking bad thoughts, your doctor’s appointment get cancelled. Your surgery gets cancelled. It’s coming.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:45 AM (8xEbs)

96 79 My guess on AZ is a lot of Hispanics voting for Trump but also “one of their own” for senate.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:38 AM (8xEbs)


Could be right. Add to this the Moderate Republican brigade of old farts who hate Lake but trust Trump and Vance at least on Medicare.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 19, 2024 11:46 AM (byeIv)

97 20 more Hezbollah fatalities announced past days by local sources.
First was a senior commander who fought in Syria.
Others are commanders & fighters. At least 4 of them were killed in clashes in Ayta Shab (border front, dubbed "Death Triangle" by Leb. sources).


There is a disturbing lack of diversity in those pictures.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)

98
How about the governor of NC saying that some areas shouldn't be rebuilt. People own properties in those areas. Shouldn't we expect the state government to rebuild their roads and water treatment plants if possible?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 11:29 AM


Rebuild roads and water, yes. But if you have a 40 foot flood that occurred in the exact same area a century before, letting people rebuild homes and business in the flood area is folly. Let me abridge that a little. If people want to spend their own money, mortgage free, in that flood area? Fine. They get wiped out. Only they lose. Other then that, red line the area.

Pennsylvania still has a tax on booze to aid the Johnstown Flood victims of the early 1900's.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 11:47 AM (MwtZ5)

99 87 Robert Bork indeed wrote a “Slouching Towards Gomorrah”. That title was ... eye-rollingly bad. I hope it was thrust upon him by his publisher.
Posted by: gKWVE

I caught gomorrah from slouching around, but some antibiotics cleaned it right up!

Posted by: Kamala Harris at October 19, 2024 11:48 AM (JCZqz)

100 She lost...it's very hard to comeback from losing a campaign. There's also a pool of candidates that the base has liked (Lake, Palin, Cruz(?)) that always seem to struggle. Never sure how much is they have a weird personality quirk that discourages people, and how much is a successful Lefty campaign to poison public opinion of the person.

Martha McSally is also in that category.

Martha Elizabeth McSally is an American politician and former military pilot who represented Arizona in both chambers of Congress between 2015 and 2020. She is to date the last Republican to serve Arizona in the U.S. Senate.

Not to be unkind, but I think the use of the present tense to describe her political career is...optimistic.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:49 AM (xCA6C)

101 KT,
Thanks so much for the Vivaldi and even more so for that example. Small ensemble, not huge orchestra, period correct instruments which gives it the original, intended sound, and these ensembles usually research to capture the tones and pacing Vivaldi wrote. Wonderful.

YT has a number of similar groups like Voices of Music who do the same with Bach, Pachelbel, Handel, Corelli, etc. The period correct instruments make such a difference in the sound.

Posted by: JTB at October 19, 2024 11:49 AM (yTvNw)

102 I am just hoping that Mark Robinson gets elected governor of North Carolina. It is amazing how much he has been slimed

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at October 19, 2024 11:50 AM (hTBp0)

103 Interesting that this headline writer chose the word "outreach".

Harris Campaign Increasingly Leaning on Obama for Black Outreach

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:50 AM (L/fGl)

104 Ohio is going to be very close for the senate. Trunpnwill win Ohio easily. Maybe even by double digits. I don’t and never will understand a voter who votes for a Democrat and Trump. But many of them exist. In Ohio, in Arizona and elsewhere.

And look at W. Virginia. Trump won there by 40 points and they also elected Manchin.

It’s weird but it is what it is.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:51 AM (8xEbs)

105 Covid vaccines provided a preview of how they will allocate health care. Remember how non whites were at the top of the list for getting the clot shot?

In Oregon, first priority for the clot shot was members of the teachers' unions. (They still didn't reopen the schools, of course.)

A "diversity" committee of the Oregon Health Authority then recommended that all People of Color, regardless of their age or physical condition, should get the shot ahead of the eighty-year-olds.

Eighty-year-olds in Oregon were just too gosh-darn white, you see.

The State of Oregon did not accept that recommendation this time, but I bet they would do so in the future.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:51 AM (uxCna)

106 I recall that in some of the early drafts of the Declaration of Independence Jefferson used the phrase "Life, Liberty and Property". Pursuit of Happineff replaced Property inn the final copy.

I have wondered if the slavery issue factored into that revision somehow. Otherwise I think "property", in the sense of private ownership rights, is a much more important element of an enlightened government and a free populace than "pursuit of happiness".

Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:52 AM (uCfKO)

107 New York Post@nypost
I’m a McDonald’s chef — Trump has no idea how difficult it is to be a french fry cook

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"McDonald's chef"? I wonder how many Michelin stars he gets.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

Does he work at the McDonald's in Trump Tower, and has delusions of grandeur as a result?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2024 11:52 AM (VNX3d)

108 KT,
Thanks so much for the Vivaldi and even more so for that example. Small ensemble, not huge orchestra, period correct instruments which gives it the original, intended sound, and these ensembles usually research to capture the tones and pacing Vivaldi wrote. Wonderful.


What the heck is the seated guy at 2:00 playing? It looks like a mega-lute.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:53 AM (xCA6C)

109 📸 #815 -> #834

https://is.gd/lwGDeg
photo montage
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC)
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Lebanon Libre!

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 11:54 AM (qKe5f)

110 Reagan lost his bid for the presidency twice before he won it and became one of the most consequential presidents in history. He, much like Trump, didn't want to go along with the party, he wanted to alter it.

If you are a real change agent winning against entrenched parties is tough.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 11:54 AM (LkLld)

111 Reports of mass surrenders of Hamasoids in Gaza.

I thought that martyrdom was sweeter than honey.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:54 AM (uxCna)

112 The Soviet Constitution was written pretty well. It had some great stuff in it, I'm sure.

And not one fucking thing in it was true, nobody disagrees with that.

What the leftists have succeeded in doing, through division of Americans into granular victim groups. You can see the game given away when Biden says "If you don't vote for me, you ain't black!"

In other words, you are NOBODY, unless you are part of the group - notice you hear leftists talk about "human" rights - never individual rights. If you go off the reservation, you are no longer a protected class, and thus will suffer the worst opprobrium and all that stuff. "Uncle Tom" and the rest of it. White folks get to decide this. The truth is, the individual is the ultimate "minority". It is a completely alien concept in history, and still is today in much of the world.

Children against parents. Women against Men. Ethnic tensions incited by the "News" outlets. Agitation and discontent whereever it can be engineered. Conflict. This is the way to destabilization of society. In order to "Build Back Better" it is necessary to completely destroy everything, they leave that part out.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 11:55 AM (wjURd)

113 Does he work at the McDonald's in Trump Tower, and has delusions of grandeur as a result?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Happy St. Patrick's day, everybody! We love the Irish, don't we? And the Trump Tower McDonald's makes the best Shamrock Shakes. I love 'em. Show your Irish pride with this authentic, traditional treat!

Posted by: Delusional McDonald's Chef at October 19, 2024 11:55 AM (JCZqz)

114 I have wondered if the slavery issue factored into that revision somehow. Otherwise I think "property", in the sense of private ownership rights, is a much more important element of an enlightened government and a free populace than "pursuit of happiness".

Sounds right. Anything that addressed slavery was poison to any attempt to achieve unity of purpose.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)

115 John McCain and I didn’t always agree, but he understood that some values transcended parties. He knew that if we got in the habit of bending the truth to suit political expediency or party orthodoxy, our democracy will not work.

John McCain had character. That’s what I think about so much these days because it’s so different from what we see out of the Republican nominee.

Barack Obama

Posted by: 13times at October 19, 2024 11:55 AM (UoCvV)

116 Remember how non whites were at the top of the list for getting the clot shot?

Muhuhaha.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 19, 2024 11:56 AM (Rn7nm)

117 Multiple High-Rise Buildings in the Dahieh Suburb of Southern Beirut have Collapsed or suffered Significant Damage, following today’s Wave of Strikes against Hezbollah Sites within the City.

You mean that trying to kill Bibi was an error?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:56 AM (uxCna)

118 Hezbollah Vows a New Phase in the War Following Death of Hamas Leader

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Running and hiding?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:57 AM (L/fGl)

119
You look at the quality of the help at McDonald's and you have to realize that everything is foolproof when it comes to making fries. They drop the fries in, press a button, maybe open up some french fries boxes while they wait, timer goes off. Done. Dump in box.

Chef my ass. No reference to Obama intended.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 11:57 AM (MwtZ5)

120 Ahh yes if the GOP became more like the old days when they’d surrender on every issue the world would be a better place.

Thanks Hussein for that pithy insight.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 19, 2024 11:57 AM (8xEbs)

121 Remember how non whites were at the top of the list for getting the clot shot?

Muhuhaha.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 19, 2024 11:56 AM (Rn7nm)

Sounds more like a conspiracy to get rid of non-whites.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 19, 2024 11:58 AM (D6PGr)

122 Hakeem Jeffries@RepJeffries
Has anyone else had enough of the malignant clown show?
America deserves a return to normalcy.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 11:25 AM (L/fGl)/


It would be funny if Dr. Adm. Rachel Levine retweeted this.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2024 11:58 AM (PiwSw)

123 I think in hindsight Reagan wasn't too old by the time he was elected, but it was probably too late. '68 or '72 or even '76 would have been much better. This is assuming of course that the running mate would have been a genuine hard pipe hitting normal American and not a spook or whatever.

Agnew was a pretty standup conservative, they got rid of him, and not long after you-know-who.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 11:59 AM (wjURd)

124 111 Reports of mass surrenders of Hamasoids in Gaza.

I thought that martyrdom was sweeter than honey.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

They've been watching several movies from the 2000s, where key characters allow themselves to be caught to get inside their enemy's facility before launching a surprise attack.

So cunning!

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 19, 2024 11:59 AM (JCZqz)

125 Speaking of TheJamesMadison, I assume he's posted this already this morning and I would be remiss if I didn't post it again:
yahoo.com/news/ rosie-o-donnell-daughter-chelsea-180939955.html
Chelsea Belle O'Donnell, 27, shares an 11-month-old son with Jacob Nelund, in a lovely home of feces, meth pipes, and razor-blades.
My suggestion is that the child be raised in a home not headed by Nelunds or O'Donnells.

Posted by: gKWVE at October 19, 2024 11:59 AM (byeIv)

126 A morning palate cleanser for your delectation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvM4EmFxMBw

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)

127 >230 years later we know which way it went.
Posted by: muldoon
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It's not over yet.
Posted by: Braenyard


**********

You make a good point. I meant which way it had gone from then until now. Which way it goes from here is as yet unknown. We spend a lot of time here trying to read the tea leaves.

Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:59 AM (uCfKO)

128 I assume he's referring to the folly of rebuilding in areas where a recurrence is likely, just as it's foolish to keep replacing homes on sand bars in the Outer Banks. If you want to spend your money doing it, fine, but don't demand that I pay for it.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:31 AM (xCA6C)

Now do ghettos that get burnt out in race riots.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 12:00 PM (pWgGF)

129 I still think Kari Lake would be a good candidate, no idea why Arizona is a mess for conservatives

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 12:00 PM (fwDg9)

130 Serious question, just saw that Jimmy Carter has early voted in GA.
If he should pass away before election day, should this vote count? I would think not, but what do I know. Probably just to meaningless to try to track.

Posted by: From about That Time at October 19, 2024 12:01 PM (4780s)

131
"McDonald's chef"? I wonder how many Michelin stars he gets.

I am always alert for a plastic fork on the floor in the dining area. Those Michelin people are sneaky.

-- McDonald's Chef

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 12:01 PM (MwtZ5)

132 Robinson has proven himself the exact opposite of a disappointment in the Helene response. I admit I had no hopes for him at first. If I was in NC I would walk over feces, meth pipes and razor blades to vote for the man

Posted by: gKWVE at October 19, 2024 12:01 PM (byeIv)

133 I'm OK with Trump working at McD's, but draw the line at him becoming Obama's Martha Vineyard chef.

Posted by: Can't Stand The Heat... at October 19, 2024 12:02 PM (nS6qG)

134 I still think Kari Lake would be a good candidate, no idea why Arizona is a mess for conservatives
Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 12:00 PM (fwDg9)


Cindy McCain.

Posted by: 13times at October 19, 2024 12:02 PM (UoCvV)

135 The Soviet Constitution was written pretty well. It had some great stuff in it, I'm sure.

And not one fucking thing in it was true, nobody disagrees with that.


Come now - if you explicitly anti-Soviet, they threw you into a camp.

If you claimed to be pro-Soviet, but demanded your rights under the Soviet Constitution, they threw you into a mental hospital.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 12:02 PM (uxCna)

136 Cindy McCain is the mess.

Posted by: 13times at October 19, 2024 12:03 PM (UoCvV)

137 Hezbollah Vows a New Phase in the War Following Death of Hamas Leader

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Oh, NOW we're REALLY MAD!

Hezbollah's problem is that the IDF has exposed them as a bunch of feckless clowns.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 19, 2024 12:03 PM (kbyy+)

138 You look at the quality of the help at McDonald's and you have to realize that everything is foolproof when it comes to making fries.

If you've ever worked in fast food, you know, no matter how fool proof the systems are, there are employees dumb enough to fuck it up.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 19, 2024 12:03 PM (JCZqz)

139 Serious question, just saw that Jimmy Carter has early voted in GA.

And people need to be arrested for that.

People who are effectively in a coma should have other people vote for them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 12:04 PM (uxCna)

140 Remember how non whites were at the top of the list for getting the clot shot?

LOL, I do. They can't even think half this shit through.

This raised the hackles on everyone familiar with the long history of Uncle Sam using the blacks as guinea pigs before rolling it out for everyone else in prime time. One of the more epic stupids they pulled during that debacle, and there were many.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 12:04 PM (wjURd)

141
You mean that trying to kill Bibi was an error?
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Every time they pull a stunt they give the Israelis more political leverage to clean them out.
_Lebanon Libre

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 12:05 PM (qKe5f)

142 Being a Chef at McDonalds must be like being a four-star general in the girl scouts.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 19, 2024 12:05 PM (kbyy+)

143 John McCain had character. That’s what I think about so much these days because it’s so different from what we see out of the Republican nominee.

Barack Obama
Posted by: 13times at October 19, 2024 11:55 AM (UoCvV

McCain had leftist character which means no character . He was a serial adulterer, a backstabber, a lying Keating 5 cheat along with his Dem friends, a pretend believer who raised his kid and influenced his wife to also be Leftists in Conservative clothing.

This doesn't include his lack of any morals and character before he became a politician. His only claim to character was the debated story that he refused to be released before others who had been a POW longer were released.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 19, 2024 12:05 PM (D6PGr)

144 OT but this is why I want to visit Japan and also why I should never visit Japan.

https://youtube.com/shorts/RY1WMH9w8s4

Posted by: Robert at October 19, 2024 12:05 PM (BQlLi)

145 I found the lurker's story very inspiring. Thanks for sharing it!

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2024 12:06 PM (Sf2cq)

146 A "diversity" committee of the Oregon Health Authority then recommended that all People of Color, regardless of their age or physical condition, should get the shot ahead of the eighty-year-olds.

Eighty-year-olds in Oregon were just too gosh-darn white, you see.

A modest proposal: taxpayers first.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 12:06 PM (pWgGF)

147 Ted Cruz was giving an interview, I forget exactly where, and he claims that Mitch McConnell is withholding money from him for his campaign at the same time Allred is getting tens of millions funneled to him through the obvious money laundering Act Blue scam. Together they have raised over $130 million. For a Senate race.

Act Blue is just another in the spectrum of ways leftists cheat. And our uniparty betters like McConnell not only ignore it they abet it by hamstringing anyone on our side who won't toe the uniparty line. Like Kari Lake.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 12:06 PM (LkLld)

148
This raised the hackles on everyone familiar with the long history of Uncle Sam using the blacks as guinea pigs before rolling it out for everyone else in prime time. One of the more epic stupids they pulled during that debacle, and there were many.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 12:04 PM


Whatever the hell are you babbling about!

Posted by: Tuskegee Airmen at October 19, 2024 12:06 PM (MwtZ5)

149 Josh Hammer: The Collapse of Kamala Harris

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Well, it's not the first time she's been driven to her knees.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 12:06 PM (L/fGl)

150 Oh, NOW we're REALLY MAD!

Hezbollah's problem is that the IDF has exposed them as a bunch of feckless clowns.
Posted by: Cicero

They say, no matter how many terrorist we kill, they'll always be replaced. Immortals....

We'll put that name to the test.

Posted by: Moishe Leonidas, Supreme Commander of the IDF at October 19, 2024 12:07 PM (JCZqz)

151 Our whole form of government is on the ballot.

If Trump wins and has a congress that will work with him we *might* slowly go back towards a normal government/society. It is not guaranteed but it is the only way to get back to heritage America peacefully.

If you give the Junta four more years you are giving them all the remaining years our government lasts.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2024 12:10 PM (oZhjI)

152 The Week in Pictures is up at Insty.

Here's an example.
https://is.gd/DJ7mLc

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 12:10 PM (xCA6C)

153 On one discussion hobby board, you know how they all have a "members only" shoot the bull section. A few of the usual were doing cartwheels on their lawn, crowing about how they were getting the first Wuhan flu vaxx shot when it first became available.

There was a lot of discussion about the elderly, smokers, and racial nomenclature or skin tone with respect to the lottery like atmosphere. I interjected, and simply pointed out I hope it works, and wish everyone luck with a brand new experimental vaccine, because nobody really knows what will happen en masse.

They started screeching, my observation is these people were probably twitter or facebook users where any dissension whatsoever, merely pointing out objective FACTS were grounds for getting kicked off the internet.

"It's just like the Flu shot we get every year, nothing experimental about it. We will not be silenced!" or something like that. LOL. They let my post stand, and a moderator pointed out that, yes indeed mRna was a brandy new tech and a brandy new med outside the normal 8 to 12 year testing and evaluation period.

The difference - I wished them "Good Luck", they said "I Hope You Die". Way to go guys.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 12:12 PM (wjURd)

154 Kammy's handlers had a plan... go on Fox, but only with the anti-Trump guy, Bret Baier!

Then she would get the usual free ride, be able to run her mouth, and afterwards crow that she went on Fox - how brave! Most of her adherents wouldn't know that Baier was not a Trump fan, they would just know she'd been on Fox!

Oopsie.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 19, 2024 12:12 PM (gfztU)

155 A Democrat is being denounced on X for the following true Tweet:

If Kamala loses, which is very possible, there needs to be a real discussion about how Democrats speak to and reach young men. There are very few straight men under 40 in the Democratic consultant class, so when ads try to reach young men, they come off deeply inauthentic.

How DARE he!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 12:12 PM (uxCna)

156 I will concede Islamic Terrorists are like cockroaches . You will never be able to completely get rid of them. You just have to periodically spray your house to control and prevent any infestation .

If you forget to spray they will pop up again.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 19, 2024 12:12 PM (D6PGr)

157 I keep coming back to this point, but imagine describing the last 4 years to people in 2000. Right, left, center no one would believe we'd have open thefts of elections, the government prosecuting opposition candidates, the end of the 1st Amendment and on and on.

And yet 30% of the electorate is completely on board with this now and another 20% or so isn't that bothered by it...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2024 12:13 PM (oZhjI)

158 More from the heretic Democrat:

I get why people are dunking on this tweet, which sure, go to town. But not a single person has tried to argue Dems are good at messaging to young men. In fact, lots of people have argued young men aren't even WORTH messaging to, which idk, seems like a bad way to win elections!

Straight white young men are scum. Why would you want to communicate with them?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 12:14 PM (uxCna)

159 I will concede Islamic Terrorists are like cockroaches . You will never be able to completely get rid of them. You just have to periodically spray your house to control and prevent any infestation .


In the long ago jihadis were the occasional problem in muslim countries, but not Europe. If you had terrorists in say the 20s murdering random people in the US and Europe the governments of the time would have rounded up everyone involved with the terrorists and killed them.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2024 12:14 PM (oZhjI)

160 It greatly annoys me that the same people who are pushing for abolishing the liberties enumerated in the Bill of Rights are screaming that Trump is a threat to democracy and will be a dictator.

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2024 12:15 PM (Sf2cq)

161 It greatly annoys me that the same people who are pushing for abolishing the liberties enumerated in the Bill of Rights are screaming that Trump is a threat to democracy and will be a dictator.

It's the Democrats who are planning on passing an Enabling Act if they win.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 12:16 PM (uxCna)

162 It greatly annoys me that the same people who are pushing for abolishing the liberties enumerated in the Bill of Rights are screaming that Trump is a threat to democracy and will be a dictator.

Projection.

Trump was a pretty normal president - you could have seen him say beating Clinton in the Dem primary in '92 and then mostly governing as he in fact did in 2016-20.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2024 12:16 PM (oZhjI)

163
Candace Owens has been doing some research on Kamala's claim in a picture of her and her black grandmother and I found this comment:

lol.. I have the book… ( friend works at Barnes and Noble and they were told to take them off the shelves, box them, and send back to the publisher) so she grabbed me one. Not because I’m interested in her, but because we both like Candace 😉

Is there anything that Kamala does not lie about? Apparently in the picture when Kamala was that age her granny was already dead for half a decade.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 12:16 PM (MwtZ5)

164 @EricLDaugh
🚨 BREAKING: In an unprecedented development, North Carolina Republicans have TAKEN THE LEAD IN EARLY VOTING.

The Democrats led the in-person early vote BOTH in 2022 and 2020...

🔴 Republican: 34.94%
🔵 Democratic: 34.84%

MAJOR GOP turnout.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 12:17 PM (LkLld)

165 This is a great posting, KT! Thank you. Maybe a recurring US history feature at AoSHq?

Posted by: m at October 19, 2024 12:17 PM (VnUSN)

166 Article at American Thinker
A Yadiz slave and Sindwar's death reveal barbarity of Islamic terrorism and grace of Jews
Not for faint hearted but what you would expect from a 7th century cult

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 12:18 PM (fwDg9)

167 The old joke is "vote like your life depends upon it "


It just might be true this time.


Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2024 12:18 PM (IDphi)

168 A Democrat is being denounced on X for the following true Tweet:

If Kamala loses, which is very possible, there needs to be a real discussion about how Democrats speak to and reach young men. There are very few straight men under 40 in the Democratic consultant class, so when ads try to reach young men, they come off deeply inauthentic.

How DARE he!


You just know that some bright DNC spark said "I know, we'll get Dylan Mulroney!".

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 12:18 PM (xCA6C)

169 A straight man - black, white, hispanic, whatever, voting for Kamala is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2024 12:19 PM (oZhjI)

170 23 Remember, your rights are a gift from the government. It will tell you how far you can exercise them. Terms and conditions can change without prior notice.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 19, 2024 11:14 AM (EsZUh)

Something like this--which we all (oughta!) know is snark--would pass as True in some circles.

Posted by: m at October 19, 2024 12:20 PM (VnUSN)

171 I see someone caught a photo of Ace on a trail cam.

https://tinyurl.com/4jypm8j8

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2024 12:21 PM (VNX3d)

172 Remember, your rights are a gift from the government. It will tell you how far you can exercise them. Terms and conditions can change without prior notice.

I remember one of the complaints from the left during COVID was that if they were restricted by the Constitution and the actual written laws there was no way they could do all the "emergency" things they "needed" to do.

And the answer to that is yes - the Constitution was designed to stop you from doing that. If you want people to take the clot shot and do this other crap you are supposed to persuade them to do so, not order them like good little commissars.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2024 12:22 PM (oZhjI)

173 If Kamala loses, which is very possible, there needs to be a real discussion about how Democrats speak to and reach young men. There are very few straight men under 40 in the Democratic consultant class, so when ads try to reach young men, they come off deeply inauthentic.

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Super genius Bill Maher asks panel including Mark Cuban, Joe Scarborough and David Hogg why Kamala can't attract men.

https://is.gd/1Trjot

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By God, they're going to get to the bottom of this!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 12:22 PM (L/fGl)

174 For family members, including me are voting on Monday, so chalk for more votes to the Republican column

Posted by: LMD Outer Banker at October 19, 2024 12:24 PM (hTBp0)

175 It seems you don't understand what happened in NC. This was not a flood zone and was not entirely caused by the hurricane. The area had several days of 10-11 inches of rain before the hurricane made landfall. The ground was already saturated. The damage was caused by mudslides, when the earth on the side of the mountains let go. There are several really good U Tube videos showing this.

I would highly recommend you spend a few minutes watching videos from NC to see what happened there.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 12:25 PM (gfViB)

176 Expect to hear the word "debanking" a lot if Harris "wins".
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:33 AM (uxCna)

Yes, as I'm fond of saying, money isn't real. The government decides what is and is not "money." Your ability to independently acquire wealth is rapidly disappearing, and once they get ahold of ALL the power, your "money" will depend on whether you are favored or not.

With that, I'm going to pick up the keys to my new house. It was a long time coming, and yesterday was an adventure. Things almost fell apart.

You'll never guess who the problem was... go ahead, guess. One hint: Who regulates the housing market these days, and rules over the funding of such things. Starts with a Fannie, and ends with a...

Anyhoo, later taters.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 19, 2024 12:26 PM (Ej5Iu)

177 I got an email from TPTB that they have received my ballot but I still have zero (0) trust in them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 19, 2024 12:28 PM (L/fGl)

178 Trump keeps creeping up in the stripper polls at RCP. He’s down by only 1.3 in the national average and he’s ahead by 0.8 in the swing state average. Both of these are his best since the coup took out Joetato

If the “shy Trump voter” phenomena still exists then he’s not only gonna win the presidency but he’s also gonna win the popular vote (despite losing by I don’t know 5 million votes in CA and NY)… lefty heads everywhere will explode

This is important…. Conservatives in CA need to vote because if Trump wins the popular vote any talk of illegitimacy is DOA

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 19, 2024 12:29 PM (5MZNC)

179 The N.E. made a hot mess of CA now they are doing AZ and CO.
Coming to a state near you soon.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 12:30 PM (qKe5f)

180 Haz you seen mah chili peppa gahden?


Vote for me!

Posted by: Kamalawannadingdong at October 19, 2024 12:33 PM (u3Pm9)

181 -
Super genius Bill Maher asks panel including Mark Cuban, Joe Scarborough and David Hogg why Kamala can't attract men.
https://is.gd/1Trjot
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By God, they're going to get to the bottom of this!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
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If he could resurrect him, Tiny Tim would be on the panel.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 12:33 PM (qKe5f)

182
This was not a flood zone and was not entirely caused by the hurricane.

I wish I had saved the posting but someone from the area gave a technical reference to the area (zone 7 or some such) and said the government was negligent in updating flood zone delimitation in the area. I've seen plenty of videos of the area before and after and a lot of homes and businesses where less then 20 feet above the water.

When Pennsylvania had flooding when Hurricane Ida went through my area in 2021 the water was easily 30 feet above normal. Certain 'choke points' where the river narrowed it was even higher then that. The lower level of homes along the river were completely under but aside from water damage none were carried away.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 12:34 PM (MwtZ5)

183 We keep hearing that 30 million so-called Evangelical Christians didn't bother to get off of their backsides and vote in the last election. This is absolutely outrageous, just leaving the field to Satan on grounds of moral fastidiousness?

Likewise, we are hearing that millions of gun owners have not gotten off their fannies to go vote either. This is unbelievable.

Jesus is never on the ballot and there's never going to be a perfect person ... but for the love of God, think what your inaction will do to us as a nation, and think of all the deaths and despair that will result if these terrible people are allowed to maintain their death-grip on power.

We Christians are called by the Lord to do battle against evil, not only with our lips -- but in our lives.

This election, we vote Against people who openly worship Satan in the public square, who hate and defy God, who are scheming to put all of us in a digital concentration camp.

God bless Trump for having the manhood to fight: taking the hits, risking his very life for our country. Let's get behind him in a flying wedge and make one last big push for freedom and dignity.

Posted by: Beverly at October 19, 2024 12:34 PM (Epeb0)

184 Here's a 15 second video from Trump War Room asking if Kamala is drunk.

If we could just objectively look at this somehow, I'd think something is kind of wrong.

https://tinyurl.com/3nhseayb

Posted by: Stateless at October 19, 2024 12:34 PM (jvJvP)

185 >>The N.E. made a hot mess of CA now they are doing AZ and CO.
Coming to a state near you soon.

Whoa, hold your horsies pardner.

Californians fucked up their state all by themselves and now Californians are doing it to AZ and CO.

Go to any state and see where the universities and big cities are and there you will find the rot. Not everything comes from the NE. Squam Warren is from Oklahoma and she brought her prairie crab eating idiocy to here.

Kamala Harris never set foot in the NE until she started running for office. It's Clownafornia all the way down. Every state has their share of leftists trash, some are just more dominated by cities than urban areas.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 12:37 PM (LkLld)

186 >>>I remember one of the complaints from the left during COVID was that if they were restricted by the Constitution and the actual written laws there was no way they could do all the "emergency" things they "needed" to do.
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That's right, the Constitution is a bunch of negative rights what we, your betters, need are positive rights. Rights to direct you for your own good.
_zombie Obama

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 12:37 PM (qKe5f)

187
I have engineering background in floodplain mapping. I’ve done quite a bit over the years and know how much of a joke the flood maps (FIRMs) are that they made the law of the land. I went to check out the maps for NC out of curiosity. But, lo and behold, they shut it down

https://is.gd/giNpxQ

/ I'll try to get the other one, but this is interesting

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 12:38 PM (MwtZ5)

188 rural not urban

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 12:38 PM (LkLld)

189 I saw that picture of Ace, cute little guy

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 12:39 PM (fwDg9)

190 Back in awhile, have to my truck, bad news will have to do it again as part ordered was wrong

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 12:40 PM (fwDg9)

191 battle against evil, not only with our lips --

Kamala did battle with her lips.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 19, 2024 12:42 PM (kUMx7)

192
Got it:

A) FEMA didn't update the flood zone maps for decades so the people who purchased their properties didn't know they bought land in a flood zone. FEMA didn't do their job.- Maria in the Morning interview 10-15-2024

B) Duke Power opened the dam that caused the water that created mudslides which then caused the roadways to fail and rivers to flood.


Link:
https://is.gd/VFBDv9

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 12:42 PM (MwtZ5)

193 https://youtube.com/shorts/1Qw96cO3cL4

Times are difficult, but never forget that there are still delicious things to be found.

Posted by: Robert at October 19, 2024 12:43 PM (BQlLi)

194 Novichicky river in TN

https://tinyurl.com/yc5t7mc5

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 12:44 PM (+i/FA)

195 Ok, time to get ready to eat chowder, oysters and lobster and drink rum in my northeast hell hole.

Eat your heart out CBD.

https://tinyurl.com/3d776xby

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 12:44 PM (LkLld)

196 Chimney rock NC

https://tinyurl.com/34u2dmvs

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 12:45 PM (+i/FA)

197 One more general

https://tinyurl.com/5b6ykmju

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 12:47 PM (+i/FA)

198 Californians fucked up their state all by themselves and now Californians are doing it to AZ and CO.

Not true. Not true at all. California was deep red before The Great Liberal Infestation, largely from New England, Minneapolis, and Chicago. It was rare to find a liberal Californian before then. Think John Birch Society, Ronald Reagan, etc.

To this day it is rare to find a !liberal native Californian over 40 or so.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 12:48 PM (pWgGF)

199 JackStraw at October 19, 2024 12:37 PM (LkLld),
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In deference to your statement, several important conservative positions (starting in the '70's) voted into law by the people of CA were overthrown by their Supreme Court.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 12:48 PM (qKe5f)

200 That's right, the Constitution is a bunch of negative rights what we, your betters, need are positive rights. Rights to direct you for your own good.
_zombie Obama

Start with the ghetto, where they need guidance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 12:49 PM (pWgGF)

201 178 Trump keeps creeping up in the stripper polls at RCP. He’s down by only 1.3 in the national average and he’s ahead by 0.8 in the swing state average. Both of these are his best since the coup took out Joetato

Just can't believe Trump is behind that brain dead Harpy...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2024 12:50 PM (IyPmt)

202 California was deep red before The Great Liberal Infestation, largely from New England, Minneapolis, and Chicago.

^ this

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 19, 2024 12:50 PM (kUMx7)

203 Just got a note from an Army buddy of mine. We were in Germany together back in the 70's. He married a woman who literally came across the border from E Germany with nothing.
Still married.
She is aghast at where America is headed under the democrats.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2024 12:51 PM (W/lyH)

204 It seems you don't understand what happened in NC. This was not a flood zone and was not entirely caused by the hurricane. The area had several days of 10-11 inches of rain before the hurricane made landfall. The ground was already saturated. The damage was caused by mudslides, when the earth on the side of the mountains let go

Simple questions:
1) Can you get private insurance for those areas affected by whatever combination of factors led to the damage?
2) If not, why not?
3) If yes, then why do we need taxpayer money to rebuild?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 12:52 PM (xCA6C)

205 Trump keeps creeping up in the stripper polls at RCP. He’s down by only 1.3 in the national average and he’s ahead by 0.8 in the swing state average. Both of these are his best since the coup took out Joetato

Just can't believe Trump is behind that brain dead Harpy...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2024 12:50 PM (IyPmt)
***

He's not behind.
But the pollsters now have to start showing they are relevant so they will creep back to within a margin of error by election time.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2024 12:53 PM (W/lyH)

206 Go to any state and see where the universities and big cities are and there you will find the rot. Not everything comes from the NE.

Straw man alert. Nobody said everything bad came from new England, but a disproportionate amount of the bad things come from New England. Most notably, new Englanders.

As for the universities, where do you think a lot of university faculty came from?

How do you explain the madness that is now going on at Harvard? Did that come from Californians too?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 12:54 PM (pWgGF)

207 he wrote as out of touch with our 21st century values. The reality is his legacy and his vision is eternal.

Did Reagan really say '21st Century values' whilst speaking in the 20th Century?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, cavalli d'argento o oro? at October 19, 2024 12:54 PM (qfLjt)

208 >>What the heck is the seated guy at 2:00 playing? It looks like a mega-lute.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:53 AM

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It's a theorbro, an accompaniment instrument of the Baroque era. It was most frequently used in Italy but can be used as part of the continuo group in most any Baroque music.

Posted by: Bigsmith at October 19, 2024 12:55 PM (1Au9i)

209 There are very few straight men under 40 in the Democratic consultant class, so when ads try to reach young men, they come off deeply inauthentic.

This is about me, isn't it?

https://tinyurl.com/yuvprffh

Posted by: Harris "Man" Commercial at October 19, 2024 12:55 PM (JCZqz)

210 Nobody said everything bad came from new England, but a disproportionate amount of the bad things come from New England. Most notably, new Englanders.


I mean, Stephen King.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 12:55 PM (xCA6C)

211 Kamala Harris never set foot in the NE until she started running for office. It's Clownafornia all the way down. Every state has their share of leftists trash, some are just more dominated by cities than urban areas.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 12:37 PM (LkLld)

Maybe her Marxist father had something to do with that. She didn't set foot in California as an adult until she was in her 20s.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 12:58 PM (pWgGF)

212 Simple questions:
1) Can you get private insurance for those areas affected by whatever combination of factors led to the damage?
2) If not, why not?
3) If yes, then why do we need taxpayer money to rebuild?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 12:52 PM (xCA6C)

Now apply the same reasoning to ghettos destroyed by riots.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 12:59 PM (pWgGF)

213
Now apply the same reasoning to ghettos destroyed by riots.


One step at a time, my friend.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 01:00 PM (xCA6C)

214
Just can't believe Trump is behind that brain dead Harpy...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2024 12:50 PM


The polling outfit with the strongest methodology which they are unafraid to publish (Rasmussen) has Trump +2 and relatively unchanged for the past month.

If I were to criticize Rasmussen methods, I'd say that based on recent data they are over-counting (D)'s. Not just them but (R)'s too. They also discount 'shy' Trump supporters. I'd honestly say it's Kamala 43%, Stein 1%, and Trump 56%. In other words, a blowout of historic proportions.

Some pollsters ( really bad people, so bad, these people are so bad ) want you to think it's close so the leftists can cheat and you'll accept the cheat. Yet, they're installing security fences in DC weeks before the election. 'Keep your powder dry' as the saying goes.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 01:00 PM (MwtZ5)

215 Willowed
261 My suggestions:
Hexachlorophene?
Dettol?
Original Pine-Sol?
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, cavalli d'argento at October 19, 2024 10:00 AM (qfLjt)

You forgot carbon tetrachloride.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 19, 2024 10:16 AM (g8Ew
----
CCl4 has a distinctive 'sweet' smell, not metallic.
I bet the dentist used one of a few popular mouthwashes (remember the pink stuff? "Rinse!" These usually a bactericidal phenol and there's maybe the smell.
Now the 'old hospital' smell was due to Iodoform used everywhere as a disinfectant.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore at October 19, 2024 01:01 PM (qfLjt)

216 Go to any state and see where the universities and big cities are and there you will find the rot. Not everything comes from the NE.

Scott Wiener, faggot and communist extraordinare, came to SF from ... Philadelphia. Pelosi is from Baltimore.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 01:04 PM (pWgGF)

217 Do you know what else has four letters and ends in "z"?
Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:18 AM (uCfKO)


Maiz. My people call it "maize"

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2024 01:04 PM (D7oie)

218 Well - the "mysterious dental odor" was exclusive to Dentist's office, as I recall. Acrid maybe, not metallic per se. Not a pleasant odor, but a kind of reassuring one in the sense of "nuke 'em from space" attitude towards germ control.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 01:07 PM (wjURd)

219
But the pollsters now have to start showing they are relevant so they will creep back to within a margin of error by election time.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2024 12:53 PM


Actually, and I highlighted this yesterday, Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen says the other pollsters are folding the tent and not doing any polling between now and the election. Usually, in years past they'd do a November first poll as the 'final exam'.

It's sneaky and conniving but would you expect anything less? They want to hide the decline because it might cause some on the left to go 'why bother?' and not vote. They stay home and there's no way to cheat except at levels which would interfere with the orbits of Starlink satellites.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 01:07 PM (MwtZ5)

220 That's Nolichucky river, sorry

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2024 01:08 PM (gfViB)

221 Actually, and I highlighted this yesterday, Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen says the other pollsters are folding the tent and not doing any polling between now and the election. Usually, in years past they'd do a November first poll as the 'final exam'.

It's sneaky and conniving but would you expect anything less? They want to hide the decline because it might cause some on the left to go 'why bother?' and not vote. They stay home and there's no way to cheat except at levels which would interfere with the orbits of Starlink satellites.
Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 01:07 PM (MwtZ5)
***

I did not see that but it doesn't surprise me.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2024 01:10 PM (W/lyH)

222 >>What the heck is the seated guy at 2:00 playing? It looks like a mega-lute.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 11:53 AM
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It's a theorbro, an accompaniment instrument of the Baroque era.
Posted by: Bigsmith

More importantly, where does it rank on the "if there's an upright bass, it'll be good" scale?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 19, 2024 01:11 PM (JCZqz)

223 California was well and truly fucked by leftists. The end. It's not even debateable. All the crazy fuckers came from somewhere else, for starters. You know, the poster child for crazy 1960s California - Charles Millus Manson - a good ole Kentucky boy, or near enough.

California public works from the 1930s on was a source of wonder throughout the world, and their excellent system of highways, highway patrol, fire and rescue, and blessed with natural resources that are unrivalled. It's a damn shame what they did to that state. Reliably Republican, and a boatload of EC votes.

It does look like an inordinate amount of resources, focus and effort was deployed on California by the spooks thru the 1950s and 1960s at least. The "fundamental transformation", you see. Now you know what all those think tanks and foundations have been doing all these years.

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 01:13 PM (wjURd)

224 200 That's right, the Constitution is a bunch of negative rights what we, your betters, need are positive rights. Rights to direct you for your own good.
_zombie Obama

Start with the ghetto, where they need guidance.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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They need to be set free from the indentured servitude imposed on them by the federal government via the EBT card and income subsidy.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 01:14 PM (qKe5f)

225 This took longer than I expected. Stay to the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaDWgEyh9ZQ

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 01:15 PM (xCA6C)

226 51 Any discussion of a indispensable man amongst our founders begins with Washington but a close second is Franklin.

Plus, he had an enormous wang and could go all night like a lumberjack...

Posted by: Rod Porkmore at October 19, 2024 01:15 PM (v9tkV)

227 I have wondered if the slavery issue factored into that revision somehow. Otherwise I think "property", in the sense of private ownership rights, is a much more important element of an enlightened government and a free populace than "pursuit of happiness".
Posted by: muldoon at October 19, 2024 11:52 AM (uCfKO)


Muldoon, "Life Liberty and Property" was how it was developed by John Locke, Jefferson modified that. It may have been to avoid the slavery question and it may have been done, as I was taught in school, to be a more inclusive phrase. I have heard discussions that it involves philosophy from Epicurius, but I can't say

Lysander Spooner is one of the sources for the contention that was to exclude slavery, in that he argues that slavery was never discussed in the Constitution, and the only way to claim that it was is to torture the language and logic, and claim that it is coded secretly by a cabal, when they had the power to state it plainly. He argues from property and contract law that if it was not plainly put, one may ignore it without further discussion.
The pamphlet he wrote laying this down is called "The Unconstitutionality of slavery"

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2024 01:17 PM (D7oie)

228 Spooner's "The Unconstitutionality of slavery" pamphlet was set down in opposition to the mainstream abolitionist though by William Lloyd Garrison who argued that the Constitution must be set aside because it enforces slavery.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2024 01:17 PM (D7oie)

229 Vote vote vote.

Fight fight fight.

Anyone who doesn't vote loses the right to complain.

Posted by: Beverly at October 19, 2024 01:17 PM (Epeb0)

230 Vote vote vote.

Fight fight fight.

Anyone who doesn't vote loses the right to complain.


One thing you CAN'T do this year is say we don't have a choice.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 19, 2024 01:18 PM (xCA6C)

231
I did not see that but it doesn't surprise me.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2024 01:10


Actually it was a Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen retweet of this:

@Peoples_Pundit
A slew of polls are dumping finals mid-month who have always done 11/1 finals.

They're hedging so they can save face. Everyone knows it.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 01:21 PM (MwtZ5)

232 They need to be set free from the indentured servitude imposed on them by the federal government via the EBT card and income subsidy.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 01:14 PM (qKe5f)

This. We need to undercut their predilection for handouts, but politically we can't do it in one fell swoop.

It would be better to freeze all such handouts for a generation and let inflation work its magic. God knows that alone would be hard enough to do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 01:26 PM (pWgGF)

233 "For every one who dies, 10 will rise up to take his place!" is to war what "The only polls that count are the ones on election day!" is to politics.

Posted by: mnw at October 19, 2024 01:27 PM (NLIak)

234 The early voting turnout for Republicans is looking very good, but I worry that, because the GOP has finally gotten on the early voting bandwagon, maybe we are not going to see the usually Republican tsunami on November 5.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 19, 2024 01:28 PM (qUkBO)

235 California was well and truly fucked by leftists. The end. It's not even debateable. All the crazy fuckers came from somewhere else, for starters. You know, the poster child for crazy 1960s California - Charles Millus Manson - a good ole Kentucky boy, or near enough.

California public works from the 1930s on was a source of wonder throughout the world, and their excellent system of highways, highway patrol, fire and rescue, and blessed with natural resources that are unrivalled. It's a damn shame what they did to that state. Reliably Republican, and a boatload of EC votes.

Yep. Blaming native Californians for California today is like blaming native born Americans for the illegal alien problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 01:29 PM (pWgGF)

236 They're hedging so they can save face. Everyone knows it.
Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 19, 2024 01:21 PM (MwtZ5)


This.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 01:30 PM (pWgGF)

237 I heard an economics professor say he prefers MacDonald's over Michelin rated restaurants because the consistency and cleanliness ensure you're far less likely to get food poisoning there than at a starred restaurant.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 19, 2024 01:31 PM (wBaIH)

238 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 19, 2024 01:29 PM (pWgGF)

Hippies , Homos and Commies destroyed CA. They came from all over when they invaded San Francisco.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 19, 2024 01:33 PM (D6PGr)

239 San Francisco and Hollywood.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 19, 2024 01:34 PM (D6PGr)

240 It was an op

"well it worked, didn't it?"

Posted by: CommonTater at October 19, 2024 01:39 PM (wjURd)

241 Hot girls are waiting for you to rescue them from the pits of hell.

Posted by: Lenna at October 19, 2024 01:40 PM (Rv2Za)

242 More importantly, where does it rank on the "if there's an upright bass, it'll be good" scale?
Posted by: Moron Analyst
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I read that Mozart caused the double bass to be built because he wanted to 'double' the cello, which has the range of a human, an octave below.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 01:41 PM (qKe5f)

243 14

'If she wins, blue states are going to go full Nazi on free speech'

Blue states will go full Nazi regardless.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 19, 2024 01:43 PM (3wi/L)

244 They're hedging so they can save face. Everyone knows it.
Posted by: Civic Classifier
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They don't want to get caught up in the rigged vice.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 01:46 PM (qKe5f)

245 111 Reports of mass surrenders of Hamasoids in Gaza.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2024 11:54 AM (uxCna)

How wonderful!

Posted by: m at October 19, 2024 01:48 PM (VnUSN)

246 >>Nobody said everything bad came from new England, but a disproportionate amount of the bad things come from New England. Most notably, new Englanders.

It gets said here everyday.

New Englanders were deeply conservative when they kicked the shit out of the Brits and built this country. The Baptist Church was founded in Providence. Note the name of the city. The first synagogue was and still is in Newport. Most of the Pilgrims were religious people who fled from religious persecution. Much of the original design of the country came from New Englanders.

Leftism is a cancer than descended on this country from Europe. Adherents of the Frankfurt school infested our leading universities particularly the Ivies which are in the northeast and spread leftist idiocy and graduates took it everywhere including into government.

New Englanders didn't invent leftism anymore than Californians invented surfing or southerners invented slavery. We just got infected first. Blaming New Englanders for leftism is like blaming native born Californians for illegal aliens.

ahem

Posted by: JackStraw at October 19, 2024 01:49 PM (LkLld)

247 237 I heard an economics professor say he prefers MacDonald's over Michelin rated restaurants because the consistency and cleanliness ensure you're far less likely to get food poisoning there than at a starred restaurant.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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You're trolling Trump, aren't you?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 01:54 PM (qKe5f)

248 Did hike the 3 miles to get my truck
Found a pennant
Trump 2024
The rules have changed

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 02:06 PM (fwDg9)

249 My God. No offense, Skip, but I wish I had not read that article.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at October 19, 2024 02:08 PM (Vvh2V)

250 Tammy I warned. I am use to real horrific history but that is evil.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2024 02:11 PM (fwDg9)

251 No, you're absolutely right. It needs to be read! Even with the warning, I wasn't prepared for the, uh, food part.

Vut so incredibly important for people to know about.

Posted by: Tammy-al Thor at October 19, 2024 02:17 PM (Vvh2V)

252 I wonder how David French the Apostate defended Harris's response to Jesus is Lord. I know he defended it, perhaps even praised it, but what did he say?

Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 19, 2024 02:35 PM (FfSAJ)

253 We had Joy we had fun we had seasons in the Gulag.

Posted by: I didn't vote at October 19, 2024 02:45 PM (9w3M/)

254 Cock!

*Hyuk* *Hyuk* *Hyuk*

*bobbleshead*

Posted by: Kamala's Shorthairs at October 19, 2024 03:42 PM (bxmU0)

255 111

I wish I could believe in "reports" of "mass surrender of Hamasoids," but I haven't seen any such "reports," alas.

I read both the Jerusalem Post & the Times of Israel every day. No such reports of stepped up surrender in either of those.

However, there ARE reports that more civilians are now obeying IDF mandates to evacuate certain combat zones, whereas heretofore they weren't. The IDF attributes this increase in voluntary evacuations to the diminution of Hamas' power to compel.

Posted by: mnw at October 19, 2024 03:51 PM (NLIak)

256 One more reason not to follow Europe: Huge, state-of-the-art fire station burns down because they didn't have any fire alarms (Not the Bee)

https://tinyurl.com/yc244sy6

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2024 04:20 PM (VNX3d)

257 x

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 04:56 PM (qKe5f)

258

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 04:57 PM (qKe5f)

259 • If only you believe like I believe

Posted by: Braenyard at October 19, 2024 04:58 PM (qKe5f)

260 Kindltot - interesting.
Garrison's argument anticipated Dred Scott. Slavery being allowed in even one state would have to be honored in all states, as the master dragged his chattel across a state line.
The only way out must be abolition of the Constitution, or at least Amendment - eventually an Amendment was had, #13.

Posted by: sasha yates at October 19, 2024 05:27 PM (gKWVE)

261 eek off soq

Posted by: gKWVE at October 19, 2024 05:27 PM (gKWVE)

262 I am not overly distressed over the power outage in Cuba.
Sucks to be there, but their godless commies gubmint is not our fault.

Should have let Michael Corleone and Hyman Roth run the place.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 19, 2024 05:49 PM (LiIRv)

263 James Madison was opposed to the Bill of Rights. He said in the Federalist Papers that they weren’t needed as the Constitution is a Bill of Rights. Madison understood the States would not ratify without the Rights and he guaranteed they would be added to the Constitution right away. He carried out his promise and that is his greatness.

Posted by: JackWayne at October 19, 2024 07:13 PM (iUX6L)

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