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Straight Talk: Kamala's First Solo Post-Biden Interview
Now that's what America needs to see more, the Real Kamala. She can't handle friendly questioning, she certainly can't handle adversarial questioning.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 14, 2024 ***
I laughed at her answer to "how would you reduce prices?" Laughter aside, it is amazing this is her first solo interview since deposing Biden
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 07:05 AM
NEW: The Trump campaign has shared Kamala Harris' entire interview that was released today, saying their "newest ad just dropped." Brutal. In the interview, Harris gave confusing answers to a variety of questions: Gun Control: Harris says she *does* think America needs an "assault weapons" ban despite saying during the debate that Trump was lying when he said she wanted to ban guns. Economy: Harris responded to a question about bringing down prices by talking about how she was raised in the middle class. Harris on Unity: Harris said she is the unity candidate and then cited her endorsement of Dick Cheney. She said Trump is the only one who "points fingers."From the thread:
MUST WATCH!!: Active duty military IN A WAR ZONE are SHOCKED to hear VP Kamala Harris claim they’re NOT in a war zone! One soldier asks, “Where the F*** are we right now?”Does anything stand out to you from her interview?
For my sins, I read the transcript of the debate after watching it live. Harris didn't answer a single question the moderators asked her, no matter the subject. Are Americans better off than four years ago? Why did the Biden-Harris administration wait three and a half years to address the border crisis? Why exactly has Harris junked her socialist policies from four years ago? Does she support a single restriction on abortion? OK, Trump asked the last one. The ABC anchors didn't follow up.
So Trump is winning, you're telling us And he's probably unstoppable, as there is no visible opposing force And the parted waters before him mean heaven is with him? And the light is set to break through when he arrives? IconographyThe Atlantic initially said that this cover may have been the first in its history to be published without a headline or typography. After criticism for their laziness in failing to look through their archives, this is what it says now:
On the cover: The illustrator Justin Metz borrowed the visual language of old Ray Bradbury and Stephen King paperbacks to portray a circus wagon on its ominous approach to a defiled Capitol. Something Wicked This Way Comes, Bradbury’s 1962 masterpiece, was a particular inspiration. Over the course of The Atlantic's 167-year history, only very rarely have we published a cover without a headline or typography.Do they think Trump is unstoppable even though they hate him?
A lot of Kamala supporting skeptics are asking me what I mean by “Donald Trump may not be allowed to become president again” in 2024 I think I am going to use this opportunity to show you why many sceptics, debunkers and educated people who reflexively and derisively target others as conspiracy theorists, are rapidly losing *everyone* smart and independent. Here goes:
I am suggesting that the 2024 election may be “Saved”. I am suggesting that our U.S. democracy may be “Fortified” between now and November. That right now there is a “conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes”. I am suggesting that Americans may be saved from “Russian electoral interference” by an “informal alliance” involving tech “business titans”. I am suggesting that the possibility of “a vast, cross-partisan campaign” representing an “an extraordinary shadow effort” hidden, against all odds, from public view by complicict journalists who make sure not to write stories about it and editors who spike any remaining stories that mention it until after the election. In short I am suggesting that there is right now a massive “conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes”. That “shadow campaigners” are secretly engaged in work that has “touched every aspect of the election” despite the lack of any stories from complicit mainstream news desks.
So what has all this to do with the army of insufferable character-assassins clothed as skeptics who laugh and laugh and laugh at conspiracy theorists? Well, the conspirators confessed to the above after the 2020 election cycle. That is, it is those actually running cover for conspiracies that most aggressively label and smear those trying to piece together the shadow efforts as “conspiracy theorists”. Imagine a world so perverse where *correctly* labeling an actual conspirator is turned into an act of reputational self destruction even though the conspirators will later confess and brag about the whole thing while taking open victory laps. Genius no? Diabolical genius, is still genius.
If that sounds far fetched, pathological, improbable, and diabolical to you, welcome to the club. It does to me too. But THAT *IS* WHAT HAPPENED exactly back in 2020. The conspirators still aren’t really telling the truth. But what they *admit* to while bragging and taking victory laps is jaw dropping all the same. Don’t believe it? Read the confession
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Good morning KT
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:18 AM (fwDg9)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 14, 2024 11:21 AM (RIvkX)
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Hi, Skip! Morning, everybody
Posted by: KT at September 14, 2024 11:23 AM (xekrU)
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The Atlantic initially said that this cover may have been the first in its history to be published without a headline or typography.
Wasn't "A" the Scarlet Letter?
Wasn't "A" the Scarlet Letter?
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 11:25 AM (wKqZM)
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I am suggesting that the 2024 election may be “Saved”. I am suggesting that our U.S. democracy may be “Fortified” between now and November. That right now there is a “conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes”. I am suggesting that Americans may be saved from “Russian electoral interference” by an “informal alliance” involving tech “business titans”.
The problem is that they don't control X - which I'm sure will be quickly remedied after the election if they keep power.
BTW, there are Americans farther away from Earth now than any humans have been in fifty years - a superb technological achievement.
Zero acknowledgment from the US government, since Elon was the person who did it.
The problem is that they don't control X - which I'm sure will be quickly remedied after the election if they keep power.
BTW, there are Americans farther away from Earth now than any humans have been in fifty years - a superb technological achievement.
Zero acknowledgment from the US government, since Elon was the person who did it.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:25 AM (uxCna)
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Wondering if anything I could tell my mom to convince her Harris and Walz are dyed in the wool Marxists
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:25 AM (fwDg9)
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With the Marxists saying to save us from Russia means they want us to join China
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:26 AM (fwDg9)
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Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.
You're not the boss of us!
You're not the boss of us!
Posted by: self-correcting problem-child at September 14, 2024 11:28 AM (QPCEj)
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They are not eating cats.
They are only eating cats occasionally.
They are eating cats, and it is a good thing that they are eating cats.
The real problem is that you are noticing that they are eating cats.
They are only eating cats occasionally.
They are eating cats, and it is a good thing that they are eating cats.
The real problem is that you are noticing that they are eating cats.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:28 AM (uxCna)
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Who won the debate? Days later and all people are talking about is Haitians eating pets.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:28 AM (2UnvF)
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In 2016 they thought they could win with Hilary and minimal cheating. They didn't make that mistake in 2020 and they won't in 2024.
Hilary cackled too.
Hilary cackled too.
Posted by: Beckoningchasm Phone at September 14, 2024 11:29 AM (p0LZM)
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They are eating cats, and it is a good thing that they are eating cats.
..because cats are decimating the bird population! ...which they're also eating.
..because cats are decimating the bird population! ...which they're also eating.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 11:29 AM (wKqZM)
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10 Who won the debate? Days later and all people are talking about is Haitians eating pets.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:28 AM (2UnvF)
Right? I bet the Kamala junta is pissed off about it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:28 AM (2UnvF)
Right? I bet the Kamala junta is pissed off about it.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 14, 2024 11:30 AM (YiKO5)
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Another Saturday thread to remember! The Weinstein comments are probably evoking the usual response "it can't happen here!", but who would have thought any of the many amazing things we daily witness could happen? We are cursed to live in interesting times.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 11:30 AM (bWn0G)
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The Government: "That's just a conspiracy theory!"
also The Government: *charges political dissidents with seditious conspiracy*
also The Government: *charges political dissidents with seditious conspiracy*
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 14, 2024 11:30 AM (DTX3h)
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 11:31 AM (wKqZM)
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291 >>> 200 Given the usual trajectory of Democrat claims, I guess that means they are eating cats, and not just Haitians...all Democrats.
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If they're not already, I predict some of them will start eating cats out of "solidarity."
Posted by: screaming in digital at September 14, 2024 09:48 AM (iZbyp)
Sarah Hoyt shared this from Nick Freitas on X -
The Left: "No on is eating people's pets."
Which means we're 1 week away from: "Why do you care that people are eating pets."
3 weeks from: "Why eating pets is a good thing."
And 4 weeks from: "Refusing to eat pets is white supremacy."
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 10:45 AM (FnneF)
>>> 303
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5 weeks from David French writing "The Christian Case for Eating Cats."
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 14, 2024 10:51 AM (OX9vb)
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If they're not already, I predict some of them will start eating cats out of "solidarity."
Posted by: screaming in digital at September 14, 2024 09:48 AM (iZbyp)
Sarah Hoyt shared this from Nick Freitas on X -
The Left: "No on is eating people's pets."
Which means we're 1 week away from: "Why do you care that people are eating pets."
3 weeks from: "Why eating pets is a good thing."
And 4 weeks from: "Refusing to eat pets is white supremacy."
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 10:45 AM (FnneF)
>>> 303
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5 weeks from David French writing "The Christian Case for Eating Cats."
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at September 14, 2024 10:51 AM (OX9vb)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:32 AM (FnneF)
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Who won the debate? Days later and all people are talking about is Haitians eating pets.
Scott Adams:
I’m revising my debate scoring. My first impression was a tie, which I called a Harris victory.
But the only thing I recall about the debate today is “They’re eating the dogs.”
Visual. Scary. Viral. Memorable. Repeatable. And directionally correct in terms of unchecked immigration risk.
It’s the strongest play of the election.
Trump won the debate.
I gotta stop underestimating his game. Trump had no base hits in the debate but his long ball is still rising. Incredible.
Scott Adams:
I’m revising my debate scoring. My first impression was a tie, which I called a Harris victory.
But the only thing I recall about the debate today is “They’re eating the dogs.”
Visual. Scary. Viral. Memorable. Repeatable. And directionally correct in terms of unchecked immigration risk.
It’s the strongest play of the election.
Trump won the debate.
I gotta stop underestimating his game. Trump had no base hits in the debate but his long ball is still rising. Incredible.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:32 AM (uxCna)
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Morning.
I'm stopping for fuel but I'm listening to this YouTube thingy.
Communism's Age Of Consent Problem (Why Are So Many Commjnists...You Know)
https://youtu.be/JBYmpGcrTSY
I'm stopping for fuel but I'm listening to this YouTube thingy.
Communism's Age Of Consent Problem (Why Are So Many Commjnists...You Know)
https://youtu.be/JBYmpGcrTSY
Posted by: Robert at September 14, 2024 11:32 AM (MXPwD)
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Remember when the presstitues were having the vapors about OrangeManBad saying that some other countries were "shit holes"?
Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:33 AM (FnneF)
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Already thinking if they mange to install Harris every misery should be answered with Just feeling the Joy
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (fwDg9)
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..because cats are decimating the bird population! ...which they're also eating.
Killing household pets reduces your carbon footprint.
CNN, two years ago:
Our pets are part of the climate problem. These tips can help you minimize their carbon pawprints
Killing household pets reduces your carbon footprint.
CNN, two years ago:
Our pets are part of the climate problem. These tips can help you minimize their carbon pawprints
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (uxCna)
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***For my sins, I read the transcript of the debate after watching it live.***
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Continetti must have slept through the debate it was obvious that she didn't answer one question. She does not lie or obfuscate as well as pre-cognitive decline Biden.
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Continetti must have slept through the debate it was obvious that she didn't answer one question. She does not lie or obfuscate as well as pre-cognitive decline Biden.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 11:35 AM (f/z+J)
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You know what's ironic? Kamala's goose is cooked.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 14, 2024 11:36 AM (L/fGl)
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I always liked Something Wicked This Way Comes, and they did a good job of it with the movie version. Jonathan Pryce nailed the role of Mr Dark.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2024 11:37 AM (GlxLj)
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"Who won the debate?" Has two answers. Trump got stomped by the moderators, rhetorically, but Trump apparently won big with those few uncommitted voters who watched.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 11:37 AM (wIU2Y)
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So then politics is okay in this thread?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 14, 2024 11:37 AM (+myjY)
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>>> 21 Already thinking if they mange to install Harris every misery should be answered with Just feeling the Joy
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (fwDg9)
I expect the filth to install the twat and the cackler. If they *do*, I suspect "49 shopping days until Christmas" will become a meme on November 6th.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (fwDg9)
I expect the filth to install the twat and the cackler. If they *do*, I suspect "49 shopping days until Christmas" will become a meme on November 6th.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:37 AM (FnneF)
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Harris didn't answer any questions? Yup. However she was offered several opportunities to tell Americans what she's all about.
And failed at that. Even after being prepped, coached and given every topic / question ahead of time.
Yet has a plausible chance of cheating her way into the White House with the help of the deep state operatives currently running the country. Because it's to their advantage to have her there instead of Trump.
And failed at that. Even after being prepped, coached and given every topic / question ahead of time.
Yet has a plausible chance of cheating her way into the White House with the help of the deep state operatives currently running the country. Because it's to their advantage to have her there instead of Trump.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
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Days later and all people are talking about is Haitians eating pets.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Right? I bet the Kamala junta is pissed off about it.
Posted by: IC
Maybe. People are talking silly memes instead of her word salad non-answers.
Days later and all people are talking about is Haitians eating pets.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Right? I bet the Kamala junta is pissed off about it.
Posted by: IC
Maybe. People are talking silly memes instead of her word salad non-answers.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 14, 2024 11:39 AM (63Dwl)
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Already thinking if they mange to install Harris every misery should be answered with Just feeling the Joy
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (fwDg9)
WHIP ENNUI NOW
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (fwDg9)
WHIP ENNUI NOW
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 14, 2024 11:39 AM (+myjY)
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>>> 22 ..because cats are decimating the bird population! ...which they're also eating.
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Killing household pets reduces your carbon footprint.
CNN, two years ago:
Our pets are part of the climate problem. These tips can help you minimize their carbon pawprints
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (uxCna)
Pets spread COVID-19, mate!
*bang*
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Killing household pets reduces your carbon footprint.
CNN, two years ago:
Our pets are part of the climate problem. These tips can help you minimize their carbon pawprints
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:34 AM (uxCna)
Pets spread COVID-19, mate!
*bang*
Posted by: Aussie Cops at September 14, 2024 11:39 AM (FnneF)
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Why Haitians Eating Your Pets Is A Good Thing
Posted by: Politico at September 14, 2024 11:40 AM (+myjY)
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Biden apparently did visibly carry a red baseball cap up the steps of Air Force One, although it wasn't a Trump hat.
This is after he did put on a Trump hat, of course.
Senile Joe is extending a big middle finger of Kamala, and the people who removed him from the campaign.
This is after he did put on a Trump hat, of course.
Senile Joe is extending a big middle finger of Kamala, and the people who removed him from the campaign.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:41 AM (uxCna)
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Every day that passes further convinces me PDJT is going to win this election, and my great hope is the frightened Republicans he drags along also win the Congress.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 11:41 AM (TG75e)
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Senile Joe is extending a big middle finger of Kamala, and the people who removed him from the campaign.
Dude is passive-aggressive. If he had any balls he'd announce that he's still in the race.
Dude is passive-aggressive. If he had any balls he'd announce that he's still in the race.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (+myjY)
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[25 I always liked Something Wicked This Way Comes, and they did a good job of it with the movie version. Jonathan Pryce nailed the role of Mr Dark.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2024 11:37 AM (GlxLj)
Ditto.
But I have a weird Mandela Effect thing going on with the movie. I have a very vivid memory of the carnival's witch showing up to one of the boys' homes in a hot air balloon. I can still see it in my mind's eye. But that is absolutely not in the movie.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2024 11:37 AM (GlxLj)
Ditto.
But I have a weird Mandela Effect thing going on with the movie. I have a very vivid memory of the carnival's witch showing up to one of the boys' homes in a hot air balloon. I can still see it in my mind's eye. But that is absolutely not in the movie.
Posted by: berenstein bear at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (QPCEj)
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In my most fevered thoughts, I begin to believe nothing about this election is about an actual election. That it is and will be an unfolding, at which time the true nature of our oppressors will be revealed.
Then part of me thinks that would be too satisfying, to finally see them admit it, so even the straights will see it. I expect, after this election, the straights will still not see the true nature of the evil that rots our Capitol.
I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference. They are marching on, making progress, moving us toward... whatever it is they seek, and elections don't much matter, even as they try to cheat and lie and fool and fight to win them.
Then part of me thinks that would be too satisfying, to finally see them admit it, so even the straights will see it. I expect, after this election, the straights will still not see the true nature of the evil that rots our Capitol.
I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference. They are marching on, making progress, moving us toward... whatever it is they seek, and elections don't much matter, even as they try to cheat and lie and fool and fight to win them.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (Bjh3g)
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Well, you've got to admit, Tay Tay looks good in comparison.
Whoopi Goldberg Rages At J.D. Vance: "Stop Talking" About Taylor Swift — You Don’t Know What Affects Her
Whoopi Goldberg Rages At J.D. Vance: "Stop Talking" About Taylor Swift — You Don’t Know What Affects Her
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (L/fGl)
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Hey Joe, what happened to your balls?
Posted by: Corn Pop at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (+myjY)
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Chris Williamson is an odd cat. He is an ex club promoter, interested in gym bro stuff and self-actualization, and he winds up discussing major subjects important to the world. In a way it is like Tim Poole who I suspect only wanted to be a skater-boi with a podcast and wound up being a voice on domestic politics. Or Tucker Carlson who if he had been born 50 years earlier would have become a major media voice or the head of the DC AP bureau.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:43 AM (D7oie)
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Senile Joe is extending a big middle finger to Kamala, and the people who removed him from the campaign.
LET ME OUT OF THIS CLOSET, BUSTER!
I HAVE THINGS TO SAY, AND BRIBING ME WITH A BIG NEW DIAMOND RING ISN'T SUFFICIENT TO STOP ME FROM SAYING THEM!
LET ME OUT OF THIS CLOSET, BUSTER!
I HAVE THINGS TO SAY, AND BRIBING ME WITH A BIG NEW DIAMOND RING ISN'T SUFFICIENT TO STOP ME FROM SAYING THEM!
Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at September 14, 2024 11:44 AM (uxCna)
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Is our military ready to intervene and oppose this madness of escalation toward WWIII? Notably since there's no effective national command authority.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 14, 2024 11:44 AM (YIxO9)
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Joe deserves a second term. He ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 14, 2024 11:45 AM (+myjY)
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The Conservative Case For Letting Haitians Eat Your Pets
Posted by: Rear Adm. Bill Kristol at September 14, 2024 11:46 AM (+myjY)
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NYT poll from last week says 61% of voters want "change" in economic policies. Notwithstanding all the protective ack-ack from the propaganda press, nothing changes the voters laser focus on how terrible the last three years have been for everyone's personal budgets.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 11:46 AM (lYZ0S)
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I mean, if our military geniuses really cared about the country as much as they did in 2021, they would engage in back-channel discussions with their Russian counterparts to circumvent the obviously mentally compromised political authority. That's how it works, right, Sir/Ma'am/Xer?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 14, 2024 11:46 AM (YIxO9)
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Yet has a plausible chance of cheating her way into the White House with the help of the deep state operatives currently running the country. Because it's to their advantage to have her there instead of Trump.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
To their advantage? Yes, but necessary? No.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 11:38 AM (Q4IgG)
To their advantage? Yes, but necessary? No.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:46 AM (Bjh3g)
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Thanks to Communism, More and More Cubans Forced to Dig Through Trash to Eat
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Have they no pets?
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Have they no pets?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at September 14, 2024 11:47 AM (L/fGl)
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So is it gonna be like the Day After, where the nukes start launching on a Saturday in September just as KU takes the field?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (YIxO9)
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LET ME OUT OF THIS CLOSET, BUSTER!
Again, it is astonishing that DOCTOR Jill Biden went from Vogue cover model in August to complete unperson in September.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Again, it is astonishing that DOCTOR Jill Biden went from Vogue cover model in August to complete unperson in September.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (5oeQn)
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Could we blunder into WWIII the way the great states blundered into WWI?
We don't have a Commander-in-chief and Tony Blinken is filling the vacuum. So he's giving Ukraine long-range missiles that can strike deep into Russia. What next?
As part of his thinking Putin heard in the debate that Trump wants to negotiate a peace after Nov. 3 and not wait until he's inaugurated. So if I'm Putin I won't do anything drastic before.
Unless of course Ukraine uses Blinken's missiles to hit Moscow before the election.
Putin will also recalibrate if the election is stolen so he has to deal with Blinken's continuing provocations.
Peace, out
We don't have a Commander-in-chief and Tony Blinken is filling the vacuum. So he's giving Ukraine long-range missiles that can strike deep into Russia. What next?
As part of his thinking Putin heard in the debate that Trump wants to negotiate a peace after Nov. 3 and not wait until he's inaugurated. So if I'm Putin I won't do anything drastic before.
Unless of course Ukraine uses Blinken's missiles to hit Moscow before the election.
Putin will also recalibrate if the election is stolen so he has to deal with Blinken's continuing provocations.
Peace, out
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (nFx0I)
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'I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference.'
I get your possible point that the left doesn't go away or stop destroying America if Trump wins but a democrat victory will make a big difference.
'I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference.'
I get your possible point that the left doesn't go away or stop destroying America if Trump wins but a democrat victory will make a big difference.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (3wi/L)
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So is it gonna be like the Day After, where the nukes start launching on a Saturday in September just as KU takes the field?
Russian nukes won't work.
Trust us.
Russian nukes won't work.
Trust us.
Posted by: The National Security Establishment! at September 14, 2024 11:49 AM (uxCna)
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Ditto.
But I have a weird Mandela Effect thing going on with the movie. I have a very vivid memory of the carnival's witch showing up to one of the boys' homes in a hot air balloon. I can still see it in my mind's eye. But that is absolutely not in the movie.
Posted by: berenstein bear at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (QPCEj)
No, don’t recall that scene. But fun trivia - the carnival witch is Pam Grier in a rare cameo role.
But I have a weird Mandela Effect thing going on with the movie. I have a very vivid memory of the carnival's witch showing up to one of the boys' homes in a hot air balloon. I can still see it in my mind's eye. But that is absolutely not in the movie.
Posted by: berenstein bear at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (QPCEj)
No, don’t recall that scene. But fun trivia - the carnival witch is Pam Grier in a rare cameo role.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 14, 2024 11:50 AM (GlxLj)
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Chris Williamson is an odd cat. He is an ex club promoter, interested in gym bro stuff and self-actualization, and he winds up discussing major subjects important to the world. In a way it is like Tim Poole who I suspect only wanted to be a skater-boi with a podcast and wound up being a voice on domestic politics. Or Tucker Carlson who if he had been born 50 years earlier would have become a major media voice or the head of the DC AP bureau.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:43 AM (D7oie)
I do think Tucker, had he been accepted into the CIA, would be happy to be part of the apparatus. That he wasn't is obviously crucial to his development as a human being.
The best thing I'll say about Tucker is that I believe he is sincere. I know he infuriates some people, but that seems to be in part because he's willing to follow a path that he believes in, and occasionally recognize and admit when he's been wrong. That last part is VERY hard for a lot of people to do, and he not only does it willingly, but appears to believe it's one of the most necessary aspects of being a morally decent human being.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:43 AM (D7oie)
I do think Tucker, had he been accepted into the CIA, would be happy to be part of the apparatus. That he wasn't is obviously crucial to his development as a human being.
The best thing I'll say about Tucker is that I believe he is sincere. I know he infuriates some people, but that seems to be in part because he's willing to follow a path that he believes in, and occasionally recognize and admit when he's been wrong. That last part is VERY hard for a lot of people to do, and he not only does it willingly, but appears to believe it's one of the most necessary aspects of being a morally decent human being.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:51 AM (Bjh3g)
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I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference. They are marching on, making progress, moving us toward... whatever it is they seek, and elections don't much matter, even as they try to cheat and lie and fool and fight to win them.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (Bjh3g)
This is a valid concern, but I think a lot of it hinges on whether it is a combined force in opposition to Trump, or various factions vying for positions of power and survival.
I misremember from the book Dune, but early on he talks about court intrigue, and describes men drowning in the sea, often showing bruises on their shoulders from their shipmates trying to climb them to reach the surface in their panic, and that he found it unusual to see that sort of thing on dry land.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (Bjh3g)
This is a valid concern, but I think a lot of it hinges on whether it is a combined force in opposition to Trump, or various factions vying for positions of power and survival.
I misremember from the book Dune, but early on he talks about court intrigue, and describes men drowning in the sea, often showing bruises on their shoulders from their shipmates trying to climb them to reach the surface in their panic, and that he found it unusual to see that sort of thing on dry land.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:51 AM (D7oie)
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STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (5oeQn)
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How witty! How clever!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (5oeQn)
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How witty! How clever!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:51 AM (2UnvF)
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Kammie's taking us to the zoo tomorrow
Zoo tomorrow zoo tomorrow
Kammie's taking us to the zoo tomorrow
And we're gonna feast all day!
Zoo tomorrow zoo tomorrow
Kammie's taking us to the zoo tomorrow
And we're gonna feast all day!
Posted by: Big Yellow School Bus in Springfield at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM (592Pr)
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Russian nukes won't work.
Trust us.
I expect that the immediate Russian response to NATO missiles being fired deep into Russia would be to resume nuclear testing, just as a broad hint of what will happen if NATO keeps that up.
Trust us.
I expect that the immediate Russian response to NATO missiles being fired deep into Russia would be to resume nuclear testing, just as a broad hint of what will happen if NATO keeps that up.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM (uxCna)
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"the protective ack-ack from the propaganda press"
Nice!
Just watched an interesting video on the Cologne raid, on The Operations Room channel on UToob.
Actually flak wasn't much of an issue. Night, and first time a yuuuuge bomber stream approach had been used. Plus, krauts effed up their comms and ccordination.
Nice!
Just watched an interesting video on the Cologne raid, on The Operations Room channel on UToob.
Actually flak wasn't much of an issue. Night, and first time a yuuuuge bomber stream approach had been used. Plus, krauts effed up their comms and ccordination.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM (GcNJ2)
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Thx K.T. I watched the whole interview and her usual babbling of gave way to something else. As was pointed out above she looked nervous and unsure , which made the babbling worse. I'm beginning to think the campaign is wearing on her and that will only get worse
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM (TkodZ)
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I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference.
The Deep State is certainly acting as if it makes a difference.
The Deep State is certainly acting as if it makes a difference.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:53 AM (uxCna)
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So is feminism now, women fist fighting, twerking into some guys crotch, flashing boobs and vajayjays on media for all the world to see? Because it's vile.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:53 AM (z1Lo4)
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Is our military ready to intervene and oppose this madness of escalation toward WWIII? Notably since there's no effective national command authority.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 14, 2024 11:44 AM (YIxO9)
There have been rumors they might have done just that. When Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinkin were talking about allowing our long range missiles to be used in Russia, Pootin came out and made it clear he would consider that an escalation, and consider NATO to be actively at war with them.
Then suddenly, the Biden White House is being more demure about it, and suggesting they won't do such a thing. The question is, who stopped them? The best answer might be: Military Brass.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 14, 2024 11:44 AM (YIxO9)
There have been rumors they might have done just that. When Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinkin were talking about allowing our long range missiles to be used in Russia, Pootin came out and made it clear he would consider that an escalation, and consider NATO to be actively at war with them.
Then suddenly, the Biden White House is being more demure about it, and suggesting they won't do such a thing. The question is, who stopped them? The best answer might be: Military Brass.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:54 AM (Bjh3g)
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"I gotta stop underestimating his game. Trump had no base hits in the debate but his long ball is still rising. Incredible."
Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.
The effect was to energize Trump's base and ensure their Turnout. Kamala won't gain any more turnout and may lose some. This was intended.
Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.
The effect was to energize Trump's base and ensure their Turnout. Kamala won't gain any more turnout and may lose some. This was intended.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2024 11:54 AM (nFx0I)
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So is feminism now, women fist fighting, twerking into some guys crotch, flashing boobs and vajayjays on media for all the world to see? Because it's vile.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:53 AM (z1Lo4)
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You just don't like stronk wammen!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:53 AM (z1Lo4)
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You just don't like stronk wammen!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:54 AM (2UnvF)
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>>> 55 So is it gonna be like the Day After, where the nukes start launching on a Saturday in September just as KU takes the field?
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Russian nukes won't work.
Trust us.
Posted by: The National Security Establishment! at September 14, 2024 11:49 AM (uxCna)
Seriously? I rather wonder if *anyone's* nukes will work - ok, a small percentage, which is still enough to be a problem! - but, look at all our CR / DIE BS and general decline in competence even before that...
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Russian nukes won't work.
Trust us.
Posted by: The National Security Establishment! at September 14, 2024 11:49 AM (uxCna)
Seriously? I rather wonder if *anyone's* nukes will work - ok, a small percentage, which is still enough to be a problem! - but, look at all our CR / DIE BS and general decline in competence even before that...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:55 AM (FnneF)
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Willowed
The Kiffness
@TheKiffness
2h
On Thursday I started working on my "Eating the Cats" remix. Finished it that evening.
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Funny thing is he is a South African who says he doesn't prefer either candidate- just thought it was funny. Nice that he is donating streaming proceeds to some pet rescue orgs
The Kiffness
@TheKiffness
2h
On Thursday I started working on my "Eating the Cats" remix. Finished it that evening.
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Funny thing is he is a South African who says he doesn't prefer either candidate- just thought it was funny. Nice that he is donating streaming proceeds to some pet rescue orgs
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 14, 2024 11:55 AM (Ydd86)
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>>I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference.
They seem to think it will.
They seem to think it will.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 11:55 AM (LkLld)
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You just don't like stronk wammen!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:54 AM (2UnvF)
LOL! Where the hell have you been you old reprobate?!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:54 AM (2UnvF)
LOL! Where the hell have you been you old reprobate?!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:56 AM (z1Lo4)
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Russian escalation will not be in nuclear form. Not a chance. Ukeistan has already made strikes deep in Russia using UAVs. Not large or effective ones, but still. They've even done this stupid incursion into Russian territory in Kursk oblast.
Russia's "escalation" has been some particularly harsh hits on Uke energy infrastructure, more of an escalation of degree, not kind. And to continue their grinding offensive in the east.
Putin intermittently burbles vague ominous warnings, but that's just calibrated red meat for the domestic audience, and possibly the feckless ridiculous Euros. No need or advantage or point to "nukes" in this context. Somewhat silly discussion.
Russia's "escalation" has been some particularly harsh hits on Uke energy infrastructure, more of an escalation of degree, not kind. And to continue their grinding offensive in the east.
Putin intermittently burbles vague ominous warnings, but that's just calibrated red meat for the domestic audience, and possibly the feckless ridiculous Euros. No need or advantage or point to "nukes" in this context. Somewhat silly discussion.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 11:56 AM (GcNJ2)
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The best thing I'll say about Tucker is that I believe he is sincere. I know he infuriates some people, but that seems to be in part because he's willing to follow a path that he believes in, and occasionally recognize and admit when he's been wrong. That last part is VERY hard for a lot of people to do, and he not only does it willingly, but appears to believe it's one of the most necessary aspects of being a morally decent human being.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:51 AM (Bjh3g)
People who have been accepted into such things often find that what they actually wound up with is not what they thought it was. The realization is a slow one, and it grinds away. You start making coping statements about how what you are doing is important, and you are doing your best, or you are shielding as best you can to make things better.
and sometimes people just walk away. It takes a lot, and it really takes a personal crisis of some sort to junk a pension and a safe berth. It might take balls, and it usually takes a realization that the consequences of doing so are less than continuing to work.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:51 AM (Bjh3g)
People who have been accepted into such things often find that what they actually wound up with is not what they thought it was. The realization is a slow one, and it grinds away. You start making coping statements about how what you are doing is important, and you are doing your best, or you are shielding as best you can to make things better.
and sometimes people just walk away. It takes a lot, and it really takes a personal crisis of some sort to junk a pension and a safe berth. It might take balls, and it usually takes a realization that the consequences of doing so are less than continuing to work.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:57 AM (D7oie)
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LOL! Where the hell have you been you old reprobate?!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:56 AM (z1Lo4)
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I've been around in most threads, but by the time I think of something to say someone's already said it.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:56 AM (z1Lo4)
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I've been around in most threads, but by the time I think of something to say someone's already said it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:57 AM (2UnvF)
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No matter who wins 1/2 will be angry as h-e-c-k. If the other side loses, cities will burn. Come to think of it, the other side just may burn some cities before the election. After all, it’s what they do.
Posted by: Eromero at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (o2ZRX)
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I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference. They are marching on, making progress, moving us toward... whatever it is they seek, and elections don't much matter, even as they try to cheat and lie and fool and fight to win them.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (Bjh3g)
This is a valid concern, but I think a lot of it hinges on whether it is a combined force in opposition to Trump, or various factions vying for positions of power and survival.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:51 AM (D7oie)
I think that's where my darker thoughts come in, that I assume the arrayed factions against a Trump White House are not going to be slowed much, and ultimately, not defeated.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:42 AM (Bjh3g)
This is a valid concern, but I think a lot of it hinges on whether it is a combined force in opposition to Trump, or various factions vying for positions of power and survival.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:51 AM (D7oie)
I think that's where my darker thoughts come in, that I assume the arrayed factions against a Trump White House are not going to be slowed much, and ultimately, not defeated.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (Bjh3g)
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I've been around in most threads, but by the time I think of something to say someone's already said it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:57 AM (2UnvF)
Huh. I just steal other peoples shit and post it later. it works for me. Good to see you.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 11:57 AM (2UnvF)
Huh. I just steal other peoples shit and post it later. it works for me. Good to see you.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:59 AM (z1Lo4)
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>>> 77
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I think that's where my darker thoughts come in, that I assume the arrayed factions against a Trump White House are not going to be slowed much, and ultimately, not defeated.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (Bjh3g)
Washington Nearsider called Trump a disruptor-not-a-destroyer.
Makes sense to me, and I think we need the latter.
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I think that's where my darker thoughts come in, that I assume the arrayed factions against a Trump White House are not going to be slowed much, and ultimately, not defeated.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (Bjh3g)
Washington Nearsider called Trump a disruptor-not-a-destroyer.
Makes sense to me, and I think we need the latter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:59 AM (FnneF)
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Good to see you.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:59 AM (z1Lo4)
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Likewise!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'the world is profoundly morally broken' at September 14, 2024 11:59 AM (z1Lo4)
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Likewise!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 12:00 PM (2UnvF)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:00 PM (VdhcA)
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Situation is same-same as 5-6 years ago. Trump - speed bump, or change in trajectory? Who knows. Depends on things beyond his control. But a speed bump, a reprieve, is obviously desirable.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 12:00 PM (GcNJ2)
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I expect that the immediate Russian response to NATO missiles being fired deep into Russia would be to resume nuclear testing, just as a broad hint of what will happen if NATO keeps that up.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM (uxCna)
I think if we start using our missiles, they will use theirs (which are better than ours) to destroy Kiev, and other significant parts of Ukraine that they have so far not tried to destroy.
Any clown who tries to say Russia is "losing" or has been stopped doesn't seem to get it: Russia CAN destroy all of Ukraine, it hasn't does so because it doesn't WANT to.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM (uxCna)
I think if we start using our missiles, they will use theirs (which are better than ours) to destroy Kiev, and other significant parts of Ukraine that they have so far not tried to destroy.
Any clown who tries to say Russia is "losing" or has been stopped doesn't seem to get it: Russia CAN destroy all of Ukraine, it hasn't does so because it doesn't WANT to.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:01 PM (Bjh3g)
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16 Joy Is A Revolutionary Force
Hmm, there's a spot to photoshop Que-mala's face into...
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 11:31 AM (wKqZM)
Been thinking this might be a good time to re-watch "Life" about living under Mao.
Also the China segment of "The Red Violin".
Hmm, there's a spot to photoshop Que-mala's face into...
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 11:31 AM (wKqZM)
Been thinking this might be a good time to re-watch "Life" about living under Mao.
Also the China segment of "The Red Violin".
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:01 PM (f+FmA)
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"Russian escalation will not be in nuclear form. Not a chance."
If Zelensky uses Blinken's missiles to hit Moscow I wouldn't count on a token response from Putin. Blinken is playing with fire.
If Zelensky uses Blinken's missiles to hit Moscow I wouldn't count on a token response from Putin. Blinken is playing with fire.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2024 12:02 PM (nFx0I)
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Russia's "escalation" has been some particularly harsh hits on Uke energy infrastructure, more of an escalation of degree, not kind. And to continue their grinding offensive in the east.
Putin has made it absolutely clear that a red line will be crossed if NATO weapons are used to strike deep into Russia (as opposed to the somewhat ineffective Ukrainian drones).
His credibility is on the line - I don't think that more of the same in Ukraine would be a sufficient response.
They've even done this stupid incursion into Russian territory in Kursk oblast.
The war hawks, from Zelensky on down, have said that since the Russians didn't use nukes in response to the minor Kursk incursion, this means that the Russians won't use nukes under any circumstances.
Putin has made it absolutely clear that a red line will be crossed if NATO weapons are used to strike deep into Russia (as opposed to the somewhat ineffective Ukrainian drones).
His credibility is on the line - I don't think that more of the same in Ukraine would be a sufficient response.
They've even done this stupid incursion into Russian territory in Kursk oblast.
The war hawks, from Zelensky on down, have said that since the Russians didn't use nukes in response to the minor Kursk incursion, this means that the Russians won't use nukes under any circumstances.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 12:03 PM (uxCna)
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> Unless of course Ukraine uses Blinken's missiles to hit Moscow before the election.
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I saw the name "Storm Shadow" used to describe the missiles Blinken says will be offered to Ukraine. They've used this weapon before; on Russian ships in Sevastopol, a naval base.
The "Storm Shadow" ALCM's have roughly a 175 mile range. The closest point in Ukraine for an aircraft to launch one is about 300 miles from Moscow. Unless the Ukrainian Air Force is willing to risk anti-air defenses along the axis of attack.
Those missiles won't be used to hit Moscow. They'll be used to hit Russian installations in occupied Ukrainian territory and the Crimea.
And they're British missiles, not American. (But do have American developed sensors.)
YMMV
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I saw the name "Storm Shadow" used to describe the missiles Blinken says will be offered to Ukraine. They've used this weapon before; on Russian ships in Sevastopol, a naval base.
The "Storm Shadow" ALCM's have roughly a 175 mile range. The closest point in Ukraine for an aircraft to launch one is about 300 miles from Moscow. Unless the Ukrainian Air Force is willing to risk anti-air defenses along the axis of attack.
Those missiles won't be used to hit Moscow. They'll be used to hit Russian installations in occupied Ukrainian territory and the Crimea.
And they're British missiles, not American. (But do have American developed sensors.)
YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 12:03 PM (Q4IgG)
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>>> 82 Situation is same-same as 5-6 years ago. Trump - speed bump, or change in trajectory? Who knows. Depends on things beyond his control. But a speed bump, a reprieve, is obviously desirable.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 12:00 PM (GcNJ2)
It also occurs to me that Trump the Disruptor, even if he fails to do what is needed *himself*, has over almost a decade and especially in the last few months, built a coalition that may end up taking the next steps...
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 12:00 PM (GcNJ2)
It also occurs to me that Trump the Disruptor, even if he fails to do what is needed *himself*, has over almost a decade and especially in the last few months, built a coalition that may end up taking the next steps...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:03 PM (FnneF)
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My God, this place is a smart military blog!
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 14, 2024 12:04 PM (YIxO9)
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and sometimes people just walk away. It takes a lot, and it really takes a personal crisis of some sort to junk a pension and a safe berth. It might take balls, and it usually takes a realization that the consequences of doing so are less than continuing to work.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:57 AM (D7oie)
I may be wrong, but isn't Tucker a chicken company heir with plenty of FU money?
Sure I read it here, years ago.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 11:57 AM (D7oie)
I may be wrong, but isn't Tucker a chicken company heir with plenty of FU money?
Sure I read it here, years ago.
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:04 PM (f+FmA)
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Seriously? I rather wonder if *anyone's* nukes will work - ok, a small percentage, which is still enough to be a problem! - but, look at all our CR / DIE BS and general decline in competence even before that...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:55 AM (FnneF)
Part of me hopes that the whole nook thing is mostly hoax and bluster at this point. That we somehow discovered these bombs don't work unless they are completely protected from deteriorating, and all these arsenals, all over the world, are filled with duds.
Which is a pleasant thought, although I don't necessarily believe it's very likely.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:55 AM (FnneF)
Part of me hopes that the whole nook thing is mostly hoax and bluster at this point. That we somehow discovered these bombs don't work unless they are completely protected from deteriorating, and all these arsenals, all over the world, are filled with duds.
Which is a pleasant thought, although I don't necessarily believe it's very likely.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:05 PM (Bjh3g)
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"Do they think Trump is unstoppable even though they hate him?"
Says a lot about what they think of the millions of Americans who support him.
Says a lot about what they think of the millions of Americans who support him.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:05 PM (W/lyH)
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What scares me most is that the idiots in charge think they have a plan for a war with Russia and everything will go according to that plan.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 12:05 PM (2UnvF)
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Florida. Is. In. Play. There is momentum building. I hope she holds an event in South Florida, hell, anywhere in Florida. Context: Doug Emhoff campaigning in The Villages.
I ask myself how I feel about Harris’ chances in Kansas. Republicans turned out the women’s vote when they tried to quash Abortion in 2022. It will happen again this year. Maybe not to a great extent but I’m optimistic that Dorothy and Toto might come through. I don't see wholesale opposition to immigrants around here.
If Kansas is prochoice, and can elect a Dem as Governor, they can go blue in a Presidential election.
Taylor Swift is doing her ERAS tour concert in Miami in October. Also she'll be in New Orleans and Indianapolis in October. I don't think it's random chance she's in those red areas right now, do you?
Campaigning even in red states helps down ballot races. Maybe it would help break the supermajority in both Florida and Texas. That would check the growing fascism in our states.
We might not get the presidential vote in Florida but she could help us win the Senate. We are closer to defeating Scott than we are in defeating Trump in Florida
I ask myself how I feel about Harris’ chances in Kansas. Republicans turned out the women’s vote when they tried to quash Abortion in 2022. It will happen again this year. Maybe not to a great extent but I’m optimistic that Dorothy and Toto might come through. I don't see wholesale opposition to immigrants around here.
If Kansas is prochoice, and can elect a Dem as Governor, they can go blue in a Presidential election.
Taylor Swift is doing her ERAS tour concert in Miami in October. Also she'll be in New Orleans and Indianapolis in October. I don't think it's random chance she's in those red areas right now, do you?
Campaigning even in red states helps down ballot races. Maybe it would help break the supermajority in both Florida and Texas. That would check the growing fascism in our states.
We might not get the presidential vote in Florida but she could help us win the Senate. We are closer to defeating Scott than we are in defeating Trump in Florida
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at September 14, 2024 12:05 PM (kOCOY)
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I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference.
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They seem to think it will.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 11:55 AM (LkLld)
They act like it will. Which isn't the same as them believing it will.
Remember, everything they say is a lie.
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They seem to think it will.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 11:55 AM (LkLld)
They act like it will. Which isn't the same as them believing it will.
Remember, everything they say is a lie.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:06 PM (Bjh3g)
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"Blinken is playing with fire."
Blinken is an idiot, of course, like all of this crew, none of them would ever have been more than minor flunkies to minor players in a country that wasn't degraded beyond recognition.
But no, Russia will not unleash nukyler fire. No point to it. And Ukes have already struck deep in Russia (including Moscow oblast just recently, with a fatality). Multiple times.
Blinken is an idiot, of course, like all of this crew, none of them would ever have been more than minor flunkies to minor players in a country that wasn't degraded beyond recognition.
But no, Russia will not unleash nukyler fire. No point to it. And Ukes have already struck deep in Russia (including Moscow oblast just recently, with a fatality). Multiple times.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 12:06 PM (GcNJ2)
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Also the China segment of "The Red Violin".
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:01 PM (f+FmA)
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Brilliant movie.
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:01 PM (f+FmA)
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Brilliant movie.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:07 PM (VdhcA)
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Nothing stays the same. Comparing 2016 with now is not a good comparison. Even 2020 doesn't work.
We just lived through back to back administrations, Trump and the establishment, and the contrast couldn't be more glaring. It has changed a lot of people's affiliations and exposed a whole lot more.
We got Elon, RFK Jr and Tulsi in exchange for Kinzinger, Dick and Liz Cheney. The Republican Party has been completely transformed into a party of the average American increasingly across all demographics. The left is losing their grip on their censorship apparatus including a huge document drop yesterday detailing the US government collusion with the UK and other foreign governments to censor improper thoughts. And the economy, inflation and mass immigration is changing a lot of people.
Nothing ever stays the same. Lots of people are waking up and the tyrants are losing their grip. Took us decades to get to this place, we aren't getting out of it overnight.
We just lived through back to back administrations, Trump and the establishment, and the contrast couldn't be more glaring. It has changed a lot of people's affiliations and exposed a whole lot more.
We got Elon, RFK Jr and Tulsi in exchange for Kinzinger, Dick and Liz Cheney. The Republican Party has been completely transformed into a party of the average American increasingly across all demographics. The left is losing their grip on their censorship apparatus including a huge document drop yesterday detailing the US government collusion with the UK and other foreign governments to censor improper thoughts. And the economy, inflation and mass immigration is changing a lot of people.
Nothing ever stays the same. Lots of people are waking up and the tyrants are losing their grip. Took us decades to get to this place, we aren't getting out of it overnight.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 12:07 PM (LkLld)
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@87 Thanks. Needed clarification.
Now I worry that if sufficiently provoked Putin will waste Kiev.
But with or without nukes?
Now I worry that if sufficiently provoked Putin will waste Kiev.
But with or without nukes?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2024 12:07 PM (nFx0I)
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My God, this place is a smart military blog!
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at September 14, 2024 12:04 PM (YIxO9)
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Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:08 PM (VdhcA)
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Those missiles won't be used to hit Moscow. They'll be used to hit Russian installations in occupied Ukrainian territory and the Crimea.
They're already doing that, and hitting anything within Ukraine's 1991 borders is already accepted ROE by both sides.
The proposal is to use NATO systems to strike much deeper into Russia proper.
They're already doing that, and hitting anything within Ukraine's 1991 borders is already accepted ROE by both sides.
The proposal is to use NATO systems to strike much deeper into Russia proper.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 12:08 PM (uxCna)
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And Ukes have already struck deep in Russia (including Moscow oblast just recently, with a fatality). Multiple times.
Not with NATO systems they haven't.
That is the red line.
Not with NATO systems they haven't.
That is the red line.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 12:09 PM (uxCna)
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Putin intermittently burbles vague ominous warnings, but that's just calibrated red meat for the domestic audience, and possibly the feckless ridiculous Euros. No need or advantage or point to "nukes" in this context. Somewhat silly discussion.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 11:56 AM (GcNJ2)
That's what Sullivan and Blinkin are banking on.
Pootin is not Erdogan. At some point, if it makes sense to him, he WILL blow up the world. Why wouldn't he. If we keep talking about how he can't be allowed to win, and actually stumble toward something that would actually cause his nation to be fundamentally harmed, he's not going to preside over the destruction of Russia.
We say he can't be allowed to win. He's saying they won't let Russia lose. Who is going to give? Someone has to. Or the booms will happen, eventually.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 11:56 AM (GcNJ2)
That's what Sullivan and Blinkin are banking on.
Pootin is not Erdogan. At some point, if it makes sense to him, he WILL blow up the world. Why wouldn't he. If we keep talking about how he can't be allowed to win, and actually stumble toward something that would actually cause his nation to be fundamentally harmed, he's not going to preside over the destruction of Russia.
We say he can't be allowed to win. He's saying they won't let Russia lose. Who is going to give? Someone has to. Or the booms will happen, eventually.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:10 PM (Bjh3g)
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Nah. The very first Uke hit inside Russia caused quite a (brief) hubub in Russia, including the general staff spokesman, on TV, announcing that any further such attacks would be met by "decisive strikes against centers of decision-making" in Ukeistan. Nothing happened. And Uke strikes in Russia increased/"escalated" far, far beyond the case in question.
But as Martini Farmer pointed out, Storm Shadow is the longest-legged system in question, and it has already been used many times, and its range is limited.
There is not potential for any Uke strikes to alter the course of the war, nor to materially affect Russia's war-making capacity or economy. "Credibility" is not something Putin has to worry about when his forces are having their way on the main front. Predictably, the net-net of all these Uke pinprick/revenge hits has been to broaden and intensify Russian support for the war.
But as Martini Farmer pointed out, Storm Shadow is the longest-legged system in question, and it has already been used many times, and its range is limited.
There is not potential for any Uke strikes to alter the course of the war, nor to materially affect Russia's war-making capacity or economy. "Credibility" is not something Putin has to worry about when his forces are having their way on the main front. Predictably, the net-net of all these Uke pinprick/revenge hits has been to broaden and intensify Russian support for the war.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 12:12 PM (GcNJ2)
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I think that's where my darker thoughts come in, that I assume the arrayed factions against a Trump White House are not going to be slowed much, and ultimately, not defeated.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (Bjh3g)
Washington Nearsider called Trump a disruptor-not-a-destroyer.
Makes sense to me, and I think we need the latter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:59 AM (FnneF)
I do too, and Trump might be important to move us toward that, but he's not going to BE that. So... the question is, are we better off with a Trump win, or do we let it all collapse when they cheat and lie and scramble to install their puppet.
I don't believe the U.S. will take the takeover the same way the Brits and Germans have. Or the Brazilians. I'm not predicting an outcome, just saying a Trump loss will cause lots of bad things, and surely the smarter of them knows and fears this.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (Bjh3g)
Washington Nearsider called Trump a disruptor-not-a-destroyer.
Makes sense to me, and I think we need the latter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 11:59 AM (FnneF)
I do too, and Trump might be important to move us toward that, but he's not going to BE that. So... the question is, are we better off with a Trump win, or do we let it all collapse when they cheat and lie and scramble to install their puppet.
I don't believe the U.S. will take the takeover the same way the Brits and Germans have. Or the Brazilians. I'm not predicting an outcome, just saying a Trump loss will cause lots of bad things, and surely the smarter of them knows and fears this.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:13 PM (Bjh3g)
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Says a lot about what they think of the millions of Americans who support him.
I’m not sure they think of them at all. I think I mentioned this on one of the debate threads, but there’s an ad on talk radio all about how Trump is going to take revenge on the deep state. At the end it has a boilerplate “I’m Kamala Harris and I approve this ad” voiceover.
While there were a couple of hints that it might be an anti-Trump ad, it wasn’t until the end that I was sure. Because for the most part it was the epitome of “you don’t have to sell me on him, I’m already going to vote for him.”
I’m not sure they think of them at all. I think I mentioned this on one of the debate threads, but there’s an ad on talk radio all about how Trump is going to take revenge on the deep state. At the end it has a boilerplate “I’m Kamala Harris and I approve this ad” voiceover.
While there were a couple of hints that it might be an anti-Trump ad, it wasn’t until the end that I was sure. Because for the most part it was the epitome of “you don’t have to sell me on him, I’m already going to vote for him.”
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 14, 2024 12:15 PM (olroh)
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I expect that the immediate Russian response to NATO missiles being fired deep into Russia would be to resume nuclear testing, just as a broad hint of what will happen if NATO keeps that up.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM
My hope is that whatever base the missiles were fired from would be hit with a small 'theater' level nuclear device and it would be captured on video for the world to see the immediate destruction caused by even a small nuclear device. Hopefully we can then put the nuclear genie back in the bottle for another 80 years.
If American and other Nato soldiers, who I would consider little more then mercenaries involved in an undeclared war and unable to see their actions could result in near total destruction of their own country get vaporized? That's gonna be a tough one.
I expect that the immediate Russian response to NATO missiles being fired deep into Russia would be to resume nuclear testing, just as a broad hint of what will happen if NATO keeps that up.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:52 AM
My hope is that whatever base the missiles were fired from would be hit with a small 'theater' level nuclear device and it would be captured on video for the world to see the immediate destruction caused by even a small nuclear device. Hopefully we can then put the nuclear genie back in the bottle for another 80 years.
If American and other Nato soldiers, who I would consider little more then mercenaries involved in an undeclared war and unable to see their actions could result in near total destruction of their own country get vaporized? That's gonna be a tough one.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 12:15 PM (RKVpM)
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>>They act like it will. Which isn't the same as them believing it will.
Nah, they're pouring roughly $1 billion into beating Trump. They doing their best to rig things which was obvious by the debate. They just have nothing to work with.
What is going on in Ukraine is not an accident or Putin doing something shocking. They are taking us to the edge of WWIII for a reason and they know full well if Trump gets in office that ends. They've spent $200 billion on it so far and they will spend whatever they think it will take.
At the very least they created the conditions for Trump to be assassinated. They will try other stuff between now and Election Day. Will they keep trying to undermine Trump if he wins? You betcha. But that's not the same as them being ambivalent about who wins. They absolutely do not want Trump back in the White House.
Don't forget, this is not just our domestic establishment. This is a worldwide push to install globalists across all western countries.
Nah, they're pouring roughly $1 billion into beating Trump. They doing their best to rig things which was obvious by the debate. They just have nothing to work with.
What is going on in Ukraine is not an accident or Putin doing something shocking. They are taking us to the edge of WWIII for a reason and they know full well if Trump gets in office that ends. They've spent $200 billion on it so far and they will spend whatever they think it will take.
At the very least they created the conditions for Trump to be assassinated. They will try other stuff between now and Election Day. Will they keep trying to undermine Trump if he wins? You betcha. But that's not the same as them being ambivalent about who wins. They absolutely do not want Trump back in the White House.
Don't forget, this is not just our domestic establishment. This is a worldwide push to install globalists across all western countries.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (LkLld)
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I play a wargame simulation frequently. The Russian - Ukrainian war has been modeled six ways from Sunday in that sim. It's mostly geared towards tactical air and naval forces, not ground. The number of scenarios with Russia and Ukraine/US/UK/NATO is in the hundreds. Some make believe, some based on reality.
Hitting Moscow with anything other than suicide drones, is, well, suicide.
Unless you're willing to give Ukraine ballistic missiles with range. Missiles that would, at launch, be indistinguishable from nuclear tipped missiles by the Russians. Which would be really bad.
Hitting Moscow with anything other than suicide drones, is, well, suicide.
Unless you're willing to give Ukraine ballistic missiles with range. Missiles that would, at launch, be indistinguishable from nuclear tipped missiles by the Russians. Which would be really bad.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (Q4IgG)
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Gotta love those troops. They fixed up their tent a hell of a lot better than I did in mine.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (W/lyH)
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That Sullivan and Blinken still work for the Junta is a great indication Biden is a mush brain, and has been for a long time.
Normally, one would expect unbroken failure heading in the direction of world war would be enough to get someone fired.
Normally, one would expect unbroken failure heading in the direction of world war would be enough to get someone fired.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (aFG7E)
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Nope. Lots of options for "escalation" available, nukes not on the list. So "escalation" possible, but more of degree, not kind. We've been through this several times now.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 12:17 PM (GcNJ2)
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Watching the Weinstein.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (gbOdA)
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I may be wrong, but isn't Tucker a chicken company heir with plenty of FU money?
Sure I read it here, years ago.
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:04 PM (f+FmA)
I think he also had a plan, and carried it through.
Sure I read it here, years ago.
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:04 PM (f+FmA)
I think he also had a plan, and carried it through.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (D7oie)
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If he had any balls he'd announce that he's still in the race.
Posted by: Cicero
Probably already has a couple dozen times.
Posted by: Cicero
Probably already has a couple dozen times.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (42DR8)
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I mean, if our military geniuses really cared about the country as much as they did in 2021, they would engage in back-channel discussions with their Russian counterparts to circumvent the obviously mentally compromised political authority. That's how it works, right, Sir/Ma'am/Xer?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
The likes of Milley should disabuse you of that.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
The likes of Milley should disabuse you of that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (IG4Id)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:19 PM (IG4Id)
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Watching the Weinstein.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (gbOdA)
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Sounds like some kind of euphemism.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (gbOdA)
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Sounds like some kind of euphemism.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:20 PM (VdhcA)
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Walking the dog.
whoa whoa whoa whoa
Walking the dog.
whoa whoa whoa whoa
I must walk the dog who lives here.
whoa whoa whoa whoa
Walking the dog.
whoa whoa whoa whoa
I must walk the dog who lives here.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 12:20 PM (LkLld)
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What scares me most is that the idiots in charge think they have a plan for a war with Russia and everything will go according to that plan.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 12:05 PM (2UnvF)
Blinken is a fool who is despised widely as a dangerous fool, Yellen's main interest is protecting the European Central Bank as far as I can tell. they are both being ridden by the Neocons who want that final proof they were right, and a lot of finance people who think we are running out of money and the ability to make good on their debt.
I don't add Biden because he is a senile old man.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 14, 2024 12:05 PM (2UnvF)
Blinken is a fool who is despised widely as a dangerous fool, Yellen's main interest is protecting the European Central Bank as far as I can tell. they are both being ridden by the Neocons who want that final proof they were right, and a lot of finance people who think we are running out of money and the ability to make good on their debt.
I don't add Biden because he is a senile old man.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:22 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 14, 2024 12:22 PM (Ydd86)
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"I gotta stop underestimating his game. Trump had no base hits in the debate but his long ball is still rising. Incredible."
As Kim Jung Un said, "Totar Win"
As Kim Jung Un said, "Totar Win"
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 12:22 PM (xjAvD)
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Ivermectin at mexipharmacy.Mx or alldaychemist.com
Mexico of course and india
Mexico of course and india
Posted by: Free tibet at September 14, 2024 12:23 PM (EeQae)
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Economy: Harris responded to a question about bringing down prices by talking about how she was raised in the middle class.
This should end her run...if we were a sane culture.
She and Biden intentionally raised prices, both because ideologically they want the middle/working class standard of living reduced to save Gaia, and because they see government as a way to loot the taxpayers and pay off their clients.
This should end her run...if we were a sane culture.
She and Biden intentionally raised prices, both because ideologically they want the middle/working class standard of living reduced to save Gaia, and because they see government as a way to loot the taxpayers and pay off their clients.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:24 PM (oZhjI)
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MUST WATCH!!: Active duty military IN A WAR ZONE are SHOCKED to hear VP Kamala Harris claim they’re NOT in a war zone! One soldier asks, “Where the F*** are we right now?”
In fairness there is a 90+% chance neither she nor Biden know.
In fairness there is a 90+% chance neither she nor Biden know.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:24 PM (oZhjI)
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Then: Dick Cheney is a genocidal manic who kills dark skinned people for fun
Now: Hey Cheney endorsed Kamala so you have to vote for her now right?
Now: Hey Cheney endorsed Kamala so you have to vote for her now right?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:25 PM (oZhjI)
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That is a really stupid cover by the Atlantic.
It shows Trump entering what is left of DC after the democrats.
It shows Trump entering what is left of DC after the democrats.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (W/lyH)
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Unless you're willing to give Ukraine ballistic missiles with range. Missiles that would, at launch, be indistinguishable from nuclear tipped missiles by the Russians. Which would be really bad.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Consider a widened war and Russia (and China) saying F it and making a surgical strike on bases closest to Russia. Think Elmdorf AFB, Denali radar staion in Alaska. Bangor sub base, McCord and Fairchild AFBs in Washington. All with non nuclear, conventional missles. How would we know they were non nuclear? Also consider the FUBAR state of leadership in the WH. I believe this is what they call Nuclear chicken in the third dimension.
Posted by: Martini Farmer
Consider a widened war and Russia (and China) saying F it and making a surgical strike on bases closest to Russia. Think Elmdorf AFB, Denali radar staion in Alaska. Bangor sub base, McCord and Fairchild AFBs in Washington. All with non nuclear, conventional missles. How would we know they were non nuclear? Also consider the FUBAR state of leadership in the WH. I believe this is what they call Nuclear chicken in the third dimension.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (42DR8)
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In Ukraine, the Russians are engaged in a fairly significant offensive in the Kursk region (East Ukraine.)
They are having a fair amount of success.
The "fighting season" over there (before winter makes movement difficult) will be coming to a close soon.
There's potential for this to drag out well into a Trump presidency if neither side is willing to chill out. If Trump bails on lil' Z and hangs him out to dry I'd bet Putin goes all in and reclaims what he originally intended to. And only then calls for peace.
NATO ain't going to do shit about that.
They are having a fair amount of success.
The "fighting season" over there (before winter makes movement difficult) will be coming to a close soon.
There's potential for this to drag out well into a Trump presidency if neither side is willing to chill out. If Trump bails on lil' Z and hangs him out to dry I'd bet Putin goes all in and reclaims what he originally intended to. And only then calls for peace.
NATO ain't going to do shit about that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 12:27 PM (Q4IgG)
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Questions the media should be asking and won't...
1) If elected Ms Harris will you formally enter the Ukraine war?
2) Will you bring back the draft?
3) Will you include or exclude woman and trans-people from the draft?
1) If elected Ms Harris will you formally enter the Ukraine war?
2) Will you bring back the draft?
3) Will you include or exclude woman and trans-people from the draft?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:27 PM (oZhjI)
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I mean, if our military geniuses really cared about the country as much as they did in 2021, they would engage in back-channel discussions with their Russian counterparts to circumvent the obviously mentally compromised political authority. That's how it works, right, Sir/Ma'am/Xer?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
The likes of Milley should disabuse you of that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (IG4Id)
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I'd be stunned if some kind of contact isn't already in play somewhere in the world.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
The likes of Milley should disabuse you of that.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:18 PM (IG4Id)
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I'd be stunned if some kind of contact isn't already in play somewhere in the world.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:28 PM (W/lyH)
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America has no interest in extending and widening the Ukraine war.
But America's elites? That's a different story.
But America's elites? That's a different story.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:28 PM (oZhjI)
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Consider a widened war and Russia (and China) saying F it and making a surgical strike on bases closest to Russia. Think Elmdorf AFB, Denali radar staion in Alaska. Bangor sub base, McCord and Fairchild AFBs in Washington. All with non nuclear, conventional missles. How would we know they were non nuclear? Also consider the FUBAR state of leadership in the WH. I believe this is what they call Nuclear chicken in the third dimension.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (42DR
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Awwww, that'll never happen!
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (42DR
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Awwww, that'll never happen!
Posted by: Victoria Nuland, goddess of perpetual war at September 14, 2024 12:28 PM (aFG7E)
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The nominal president is walking around, confused, with an opposition candidate hat on his head.
But don't worry peasants your country is in the best of hands!
But don't worry peasants your country is in the best of hands!
Posted by: The FNM at September 14, 2024 12:29 PM (oZhjI)
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The proposal is to use NATO systems to strike much deeper into Russia proper.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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So, western Europe goes to war with Russia.
La La . lalalala oh, o, oh, ha ha
rolmao
arc of history, that's the tag.
The proposal is to use NATO systems to strike much deeper into Russia proper.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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So, western Europe goes to war with Russia.
La La . lalalala oh, o, oh, ha ha
rolmao
arc of history, that's the tag.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:29 PM (f/z+J)
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I may be wrong, but isn't Tucker a chicken company heir with plenty of FU money?
Sure I read it here, years ago.
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:04 PM (f+FmA)
Not that I've heard of. His father was a "journalist" and I suppose some sort of diplomat? I suspect he was also something of a spook.
Tucker talks of being raised in DC, and I don't know if there was FU money from a prior generation, maybe there was, but I think what he described as his upbringing was more middle class.
Anyway, he has FU money now. And seems to revel in rubbing that in their faces as much as possible, so there's where the FU comes in.
Sure I read it here, years ago.
Posted by: sal at September 14, 2024 12:04 PM (f+FmA)
Not that I've heard of. His father was a "journalist" and I suppose some sort of diplomat? I suspect he was also something of a spook.
Tucker talks of being raised in DC, and I don't know if there was FU money from a prior generation, maybe there was, but I think what he described as his upbringing was more middle class.
Anyway, he has FU money now. And seems to revel in rubbing that in their faces as much as possible, so there's where the FU comes in.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:29 PM (MoQx6)
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 14, 2024 12:29 PM (gbOdA)
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If Russia was installing cruise missiles in Cuba able to hit 2/3rds of the USA in mere minutes what the hell would we do? I tell you what we would do, because it's already been said back in '62.
Russia will escalate. How will they know whether the cruise missile is nuclear armed or not. The first batch may be, maybe not. The second batch, who knows?
No, they'll escalate. Not on Kiev, but at wherever the missiles are launched from. Immediately and overwhelmingly leaving no question on their willingness to deal with an existential threat from Nato.
Biden is now a madman. The UK is little better. France is in third place.
If Russia was installing cruise missiles in Cuba able to hit 2/3rds of the USA in mere minutes what the hell would we do? I tell you what we would do, because it's already been said back in '62.
Russia will escalate. How will they know whether the cruise missile is nuclear armed or not. The first batch may be, maybe not. The second batch, who knows?
No, they'll escalate. Not on Kiev, but at wherever the missiles are launched from. Immediately and overwhelmingly leaving no question on their willingness to deal with an existential threat from Nato.
Biden is now a madman. The UK is little better. France is in third place.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (RKVpM)
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She’s a disaster. Mainstream Media is a disaster. And, our government is a disaster. Am I a pessimist for pointing this out?
Posted by: Stale, Pale, and Male at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (Kritg)
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79 >>> 77
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I think that's where my darker thoughts come in, that I assume the arrayed factions against a Trump White House are not going to be slowed much, and ultimately, not defeated.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (Bjh3g)
Washington Nearsider called Trump a disruptor-not-a-destroyer.
Makes sense to me, and I think we need the latter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Youse guys need some whine to go with that cheese.
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I think that's where my darker thoughts come in, that I assume the arrayed factions against a Trump White House are not going to be slowed much, and ultimately, not defeated.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 11:58 AM (Bjh3g)
Washington Nearsider called Trump a disruptor-not-a-destroyer.
Makes sense to me, and I think we need the latter.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Youse guys need some whine to go with that cheese.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (f/z+J)
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The aristocratic elites in 1914: Obviously a show of force will make the Russians back down instead of defending what they claim is their sphere of influence. And really even if they don't back down what is the worst that can happen?
The aristocratic elites in 2024: Obviously a show of force will make the Russians back down instead of defending what they claim is their sphere of influence. And really even if they don't back down what is the worst that can happen?
The aristocratic elites in 2024: Obviously a show of force will make the Russians back down instead of defending what they claim is their sphere of influence. And really even if they don't back down what is the worst that can happen?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:31 PM (oZhjI)
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Now I worry that if sufficiently provoked Putin will waste Kiev.
But with or without nukes?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2024 12:07 PM (nFx0I)
He certainly wouldn't have to use nooks, so he probably won't unless and until it looks like they might be defeated. Which I suspect isn't possible, but who knows. At some point does he just say "F it," and start the launches? Again, that seems to be American foreign policy, that he won't.
Which is really really stupid, but here we are.
But with or without nukes?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2024 12:07 PM (nFx0I)
He certainly wouldn't have to use nooks, so he probably won't unless and until it looks like they might be defeated. Which I suspect isn't possible, but who knows. At some point does he just say "F it," and start the launches? Again, that seems to be American foreign policy, that he won't.
Which is really really stupid, but here we are.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:32 PM (MoQx6)
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AT NYT
JDs Blood and Soil Nationalism.
Isn't it amazing how the FNM has made opposition to hurting your own people...NAZIism?
JDs Blood and Soil Nationalism.
Isn't it amazing how the FNM has made opposition to hurting your own people...NAZIism?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:32 PM (oZhjI)
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Haven't had a chance to read everyone, sorry, but I see no mention of Vance. To me, he's the game-changer. Trump has a back-up, so harder to destroy. And Vance is YOUNG. Suddenly everybody else looks like a retread. So much less appealing for that alone, even if he weren't as fearless and skilled as he appears to be.
Posted by: Wenda at September 14, 2024 12:32 PM (90ER+)
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I mean, if our military geniuses really cared about the country as much as they did in 2021, they would engage in back-channel discussions with their Russian counterparts to circumvent the obviously mentally compromised political authority. That's how it works, right, Sir/Ma'am/Xer?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
I have a theory that Putin is using Pavel Durov - the ceo of Telegram -- as a go between to Macron. There is no other reason, besides paying his aircrew to kidnap him, to go from Central Asia to anywhere but France to refuel. If this works that means Macron and France bow out of the Ukraine war, and maybe the EU, and then it is a question about who runs for the exit first.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie
I have a theory that Putin is using Pavel Durov - the ceo of Telegram -- as a go between to Macron. There is no other reason, besides paying his aircrew to kidnap him, to go from Central Asia to anywhere but France to refuel. If this works that means Macron and France bow out of the Ukraine war, and maybe the EU, and then it is a question about who runs for the exit first.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:32 PM (D7oie)
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I'd be stunned if some kind of contact isn't already in play somewhere in the world.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Chatter boxing all over the place.
I'd be stunned if some kind of contact isn't already in play somewhere in the world.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Chatter boxing all over the place.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:32 PM (f/z+J)
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Now I worry that if sufficiently provoked Putin will waste Kiev.
One of the oddest parts of this war is that the Russians are being very very careful to not harm the Western parts of Ukraine. Hell, the Ukes are having concerts for their elites in Kiev while there is a war going on well within reach of Russian armaments and the Russians don't take advantage?
One of the oddest parts of this war is that the Russians are being very very careful to not harm the Western parts of Ukraine. Hell, the Ukes are having concerts for their elites in Kiev while there is a war going on well within reach of Russian armaments and the Russians don't take advantage?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:33 PM (oZhjI)
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Tucker is heir to the Swanson TV dinner fortune. It was once a thing.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (nFx0I)
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Biden is now a madman. The UK is little better. France is in third place.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
You forgot soyboi Trudeau.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
You forgot soyboi Trudeau.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (42DR8)
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I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference.
I think this is essentially true in a big-picture sense. We're in the late Roman republic stage of our existence, where republican institutions no longer function and we are effectively an empire in denial. No man is going to change that; only a cataclysm will. But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
I think this is essentially true in a big-picture sense. We're in the late Roman republic stage of our existence, where republican institutions no longer function and we are effectively an empire in denial. No man is going to change that; only a cataclysm will. But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (QPCEj)
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2016: You can't elect Trump he'll start WWIII
2019: We are impeaching Trump because he won't start WWIII
2024: You know what would be good for America? WWIII
2019: We are impeaching Trump because he won't start WWIII
2024: You know what would be good for America? WWIII
Posted by: The left at September 14, 2024 12:35 PM (oZhjI)
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Consider a widened war and Russia (and China) saying F it and making a surgical strike on bases closest to Russia. Think Elmdorf AFB, Denali radar staion in Alaska. Bangor sub base, McCord and Fairchild AFBs in Washington. All with non nuclear, conventional missles. How would we know they were non nuclear? Also consider the FUBAR state of leadership in the WH. I believe this is what they call Nuclear chicken in the third dimension.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (42DR
Too provocative.
Much easier to use three guys on the ground with satchel charges. Then the target list give you lots of options, a high probability of success, and it sends the appropriate message.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (42DR
Too provocative.
Much easier to use three guys on the ground with satchel charges. Then the target list give you lots of options, a high probability of success, and it sends the appropriate message.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:35 PM (W/lyH)
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She’s a disaster. Mainstream Media is a disaster. And, our government is a disaster. Am I a pessimist for pointing this out?
Posted by: Stale, Pale, and Male at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (Kritg)
Nope, and disaster recovery is really hard.
Posted by: Stale, Pale, and Male at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (Kritg)
Nope, and disaster recovery is really hard.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:35 PM (D7oie)
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Nah, they're pouring roughly $1 billion into beating Trump. They doing their best to rig things which was obvious by the debate. They just have nothing to work with.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (LkLld)
I didn't say they're not trying to defeat him, I just said it doesn't necessarily make much difference whether they do or not.
You seem to believe a Trump victory will result in great things. I'm not so sure it will.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (LkLld)
I didn't say they're not trying to defeat him, I just said it doesn't necessarily make much difference whether they do or not.
You seem to believe a Trump victory will result in great things. I'm not so sure it will.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:35 PM (MoQx6)
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Youse guys need some whine to go with that cheese.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (f/z+J)
cheese is just spoiled milk.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (f/z+J)
cheese is just spoiled milk.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:36 PM (D7oie)
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Kiev and it's centuries old Russian Orthodox churches are what protects it. For now.
The Russian Orthodox Church is traditionally said to have been founded by Andrew the Apostle, who is thought to have visited Scythia and Greek colonies along the northern coast of the Black Sea. According to one of the legends, St. Andrew reached the future location of Kiev and foretold the foundation of a great Christian city.
Kiev and it's centuries old Russian Orthodox churches are what protects it. For now.
The Russian Orthodox Church is traditionally said to have been founded by Andrew the Apostle, who is thought to have visited Scythia and Greek colonies along the northern coast of the Black Sea. According to one of the legends, St. Andrew reached the future location of Kiev and foretold the foundation of a great Christian city.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 12:36 PM (RKVpM)
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> Russia will escalate. How will they know whether the cruise missile is nuclear armed or not. The first batch may be, maybe not. The second batch, who knows?
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If you're referring to those "Storm Shadow" ALCM's they are not nuclear capable. And ALCM = air launched cruise missile. They might have some sort of ground launch capability, but at the loss of range.
They're really suited for attacking ships and stationary ground installations. With enough of them, maybe something like a refinery. But it'd take dozens, if not more to "destroy" it.
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If you're referring to those "Storm Shadow" ALCM's they are not nuclear capable. And ALCM = air launched cruise missile. They might have some sort of ground launch capability, but at the loss of range.
They're really suited for attacking ships and stationary ground installations. With enough of them, maybe something like a refinery. But it'd take dozens, if not more to "destroy" it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 12:36 PM (Q4IgG)
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Another Trump meme: Commie And The Bandit.
Link goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/5749ptfm
And, one more: https://tinyurl.com/mvpz6av3
Link goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/5749ptfm
And, one more: https://tinyurl.com/mvpz6av3
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (iODuv)
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Normally, one would expect unbroken failure heading in the direction of world war would be enough to get someone fired.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (aFG7E)
Unless I'm mistaken, Kirby wasn't even fired, after releasing what he thought was an internal email, that had a Fox Nooz guy on the recipient list.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 14, 2024 12:16 PM (aFG7E)
Unless I'm mistaken, Kirby wasn't even fired, after releasing what he thought was an internal email, that had a Fox Nooz guy on the recipient list.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (MoQx6)
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The interviewer asked some good questions. My favorite by far was the one where he asked her to identify Trump's appeal to his supporters. A deep thinker would have at least considered this, and have some take on it. Oh sure, it's very tricky to frame it, because she can't say anything positive about Trump.
Nothing. Nada. This woman is incapable of deep thought.
Nothing. Nada. This woman is incapable of deep thought.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (w6EFb)
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As a point to consider here - one of the few things that might save America is the Junta can only choose a weak and venal standard bearer. If they pick someone with actual leadership ability the person might just get rid of the oligarchs running the Junta.
Imagine if the Dems had picked someone with an ability to speak in public, a record of succeeding at something, and a history outside of the government to sell themselves on?
Imagine if the Dems had picked someone with an ability to speak in public, a record of succeeding at something, and a history outside of the government to sell themselves on?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (oZhjI)
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Kamala is too ignorant to be associated with any ideology. It’s difficult to believe that she graduated from college. She had no choice but to sleep her way to the top.
Posted by: Stale, Pale, and Male at September 14, 2024 12:38 PM (Kritg)
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Too provocative.
Much easier to use three guys on the ground with satchel charges. Then the target list give you lots of options, a high probability of success, and it sends the appropriate message.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:35 PM (W/lyH)
Piff. A burning EV on every bridge on I-5 in Washington state would both make everyone notice and force the IC and feebs to start lying extravagantly. We are wide open for this sort of terrorism.
Much easier to use three guys on the ground with satchel charges. Then the target list give you lots of options, a high probability of success, and it sends the appropriate message.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:35 PM (W/lyH)
Piff. A burning EV on every bridge on I-5 in Washington state would both make everyone notice and force the IC and feebs to start lying extravagantly. We are wide open for this sort of terrorism.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:39 PM (D7oie)
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At some point does he just say "F it," and start the launches? Again, that seems to be American foreign policy, that he won't.
Which is really really stupid, but here we are.
Posted by: BurtTC
It's not just American policy. The globalist, EU media narrative has already started. Putin makes a red line statement and does nothing when that line is crossed. This time his UN ambassador went in front of the Security council and reiterated that statement. They aren't mentioning that.
Which is really really stupid, but here we are.
Posted by: BurtTC
It's not just American policy. The globalist, EU media narrative has already started. Putin makes a red line statement and does nothing when that line is crossed. This time his UN ambassador went in front of the Security council and reiterated that statement. They aren't mentioning that.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:40 PM (42DR8)
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The interviewer asked some good questions. My favorite by far was the one where he asked her to identify Trump's appeal to his supporters.
If you go on leftwing boards they have *no* idea what none leftists think - if pressed for some reasons they'll just echo something they heard Colbert or the likes say.
It is a problem for them because we consistently surprise them. Though I guess the enforced group think and loyalty over all do more then makes up for it.
If you go on leftwing boards they have *no* idea what none leftists think - if pressed for some reasons they'll just echo something they heard Colbert or the likes say.
It is a problem for them because we consistently surprise them. Though I guess the enforced group think and loyalty over all do more then makes up for it.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:41 PM (oZhjI)
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Consider a widened war and Russia (and China) saying F it and making a surgical strike on bases closest to Russia. Think Elmdorf AFB, Denali radar staion in Alaska. Bangor sub base, McCord and Fairchild AFBs in Washington. All with non nuclear, conventional missles. How would we know they were non nuclear? Also consider the FUBAR state of leadership in the WH. I believe this is what they call Nuclear chicken in the third dimension.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (42DR
Also in play, all our strategic satellites. Apparently that's a real possibility too, that Russia strikes those, and essentially blinds us on the various battlefields.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:26 PM (42DR
Also in play, all our strategic satellites. Apparently that's a real possibility too, that Russia strikes those, and essentially blinds us on the various battlefields.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:41 PM (MoQx6)
167
Biden is now a madman. The UK is little better. France is in third place.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
You forgot soyboi Trudeau.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Canada is part of Nato.
You're right, looks like I should have included him.
Biden is now a madman. The UK is little better. France is in third place.
Posted by: Divide by Zero
You forgot soyboi Trudeau.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM
You're right, looks like I should have included him.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 12:41 PM (RKVpM)
168
NATO should have been disbanded the day after the Soviet Union collapsed...and yet here we are.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:42 PM (oZhjI)
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Another Trump meme: Commie And The Bandit.
Link goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/5749ptfm
And, one more: https://tinyurl.com/mvpz6av3
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (iODuv)
OMG!!!
Hilarious!!!
Link goes to Youtube.
https://tinyurl.com/5749ptfm
And, one more: https://tinyurl.com/mvpz6av3
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (iODuv)
OMG!!!
Hilarious!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:43 PM (W/lyH)
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Keep writing what I read in a article some time ago
We are at tje looting the Empire stage of collapse.
Everyone who can is stealing public funds as fast as they can.
We are at tje looting the Empire stage of collapse.
Everyone who can is stealing public funds as fast as they can.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 12:43 PM (fwDg9)
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The real problem is that you are noticing ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:28 AM (uxCna)
It's deplorable.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:28 AM (uxCna)
It's deplorable.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:43 PM (Rbu5d)
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Someone posted Death of Stalin on YouTube, no ad in 1040. Worth a watch. Funny, terrifying and maybe prophetic about the West, notably their idiot nomeclature and seamless changing of positions to curry favor
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 14, 2024 12:43 PM (wBaIH)
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Too provocative.
Much easier to use three guys on the ground with satchel charges. Then the target list give you lots of options, a high probability of success, and it sends the appropriate message.
Posted by: Diogenes
Yea. My what if rabbit holes tend to get deep and dark. So Russian looking strangers carrying gym bags should be added to my target list?
Much easier to use three guys on the ground with satchel charges. Then the target list give you lots of options, a high probability of success, and it sends the appropriate message.
Posted by: Diogenes
Yea. My what if rabbit holes tend to get deep and dark. So Russian looking strangers carrying gym bags should be added to my target list?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:43 PM (42DR8)
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I am impressed at some of the ability being put forth in ads/memes for Trump this time around.
I look at the other side and..."Kamala is a black woman", "Kamala likes abortion" and "Trump is bad" are literally the only things they say.
I look at the other side and..."Kamala is a black woman", "Kamala likes abortion" and "Trump is bad" are literally the only things they say.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:44 PM (oZhjI)
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That Atlantic cover is most reminiscent of the Reich-inspired red-light speech Dark Brandon gave, which tracks: as usual, their Republican fantasy is Democrat reality.
Posted by: The Politics of Projection at September 14, 2024 12:44 PM (QPCEj)
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After this interview I wonder if they will let Kamala do another or will they cruise on the media and TayTay endorsement and re basement her ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2024 12:45 PM (IyPmt)
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DU kids are really hoping Florida is in play this year. Huh, wonder why? Voter registration shows almost 1 million more republican voters than dems.
Posted by: IC - #FJB at September 14, 2024 12:45 PM (YiKO5)
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You know, I'm halfway surprised China and/or Russia hasn't made a move on the US since *biden was installed. I'm not talking about a nuclear strike or anything so dramatic. Maybe a political coup somewhere the US has a vested interest or the sabotage of vital undersea fiber optic lines or the like.
Reduce America's influence and ability to gather intelligence or info.
That'd hurt.
Reduce America's influence and ability to gather intelligence or info.
That'd hurt.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 12:45 PM (Q4IgG)
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We need to leave NATO and kick the UN out of New Yawk.
Then fill the building with Haitians, amiright? Do they eat rats? Asking for a friend.
Then fill the building with Haitians, amiright? Do they eat rats? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 12:45 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Dan Patterson at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (3OmVO)
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180 She was drunk.
Again.
Posted by: Dan Patterson at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (3OmVO
Or happy pills
Again.
Posted by: Dan Patterson at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (3OmVO
Or happy pills
Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (IyPmt)
182
They're eating the nuclear chickens!
Posted by: DJT at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (63Dwl)
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She was drunk.
Again.
Posted by: Dan Patterson at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (3OmVO
Or happy pills
Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (IyPmt)
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Power of "and."
Again.
Posted by: Dan Patterson at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (3OmVO
Or happy pills
Posted by: It's me donna at September 14, 2024 12:46 PM (IyPmt)
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Power of "and."
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (VdhcA)
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>>> 140
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Youse guys need some whine to go with that cheese.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (f/z+J)
Explain how it is *whining* to say OrangeManBad is not likely to be a Destroyer, despite the fact that he is Disrupting quite well.
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Youse guys need some whine to go with that cheese.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:30 PM (f/z+J)
Explain how it is *whining* to say OrangeManBad is not likely to be a Destroyer, despite the fact that he is Disrupting quite well.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (FnneF)
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One of the oddest parts of this war is that the Russians are being very very careful to not harm the Western parts of Ukraine. Hell, the Ukes are having concerts for their elites in Kiev while there is a war going on well within reach of Russian armaments and the Russians don't take advantage?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:33 PM (oZhjI)
It's one of those things the Ukraine cheerleaders never acknowledge. Every time they talk about how the Russians aren't destroying Ukraine, they don't want to ask the question: Could they?
Of course they could! If they wanted to. But so far, they haven't wanted to. But to acknowledge that would completely contradict the entire reasoning for getting us involved in the first place.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:33 PM (oZhjI)
It's one of those things the Ukraine cheerleaders never acknowledge. Every time they talk about how the Russians aren't destroying Ukraine, they don't want to ask the question: Could they?
Of course they could! If they wanted to. But so far, they haven't wanted to. But to acknowledge that would completely contradict the entire reasoning for getting us involved in the first place.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (yI8RN)
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Piff. A burning EV on every bridge on I-5 in Washington state would both make everyone notice and force the IC and feebs to start lying extravagantly. We are wide open for this sort of terrorism.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:39 PM (D7oie)
Absolutely concur.
But in this instance I was thinking more of a military target. McChord is a good one. It's not very far from the fence line to the flight line.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:39 PM (D7oie)
Absolutely concur.
But in this instance I was thinking more of a military target. McChord is a good one. It's not very far from the fence line to the flight line.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (W/lyH)
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We need to leave NATO and kick the UN out of New Yawk.
Then fill the building with Haitians, amiright? Do they eat rats? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
Trump is on record saying the UN building should be sold off. Pretty nice location, IIRC.
Then fill the building with Haitians, amiright? Do they eat rats? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
Trump is on record saying the UN building should be sold off. Pretty nice location, IIRC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
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Trump is on record saying the UN building should be sold off. Pretty nice location, IIRC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
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Right on the East River. Midtown?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
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Right on the East River. Midtown?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:49 PM (VdhcA)
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Trump is on record saying the UN building should be sold off. Pretty nice location, IIRC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
How does Trump Turtle Bay Estates strike you?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
How does Trump Turtle Bay Estates strike you?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 14, 2024 12:49 PM (+myjY)
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I think this is essentially true in a big-picture sense. We're in the late Roman republic stage of our existence, where republican institutions no longer function and we are effectively an empire in denial. No man is going to change that; only a cataclysm will. But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (QPCEj)
Agreed.
I wouldn't want anyone here to think I don't care who wins, or that I'm not hopeful that a Trump will WILL make a difference... I just don't think it will, in that bigger picture view.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (QPCEj)
Agreed.
I wouldn't want anyone here to think I don't care who wins, or that I'm not hopeful that a Trump will WILL make a difference... I just don't think it will, in that bigger picture view.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:50 PM (yI8RN)
191
>>> 187 We need to leave NATO and kick the UN out of New Yawk.
Then fill the building with Haitians, amiright? Do they eat rats? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
Trump is on record saying the UN building should be sold off. Pretty nice location, IIRC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
After its current occupants are evicted via trebuchet, and the building is fumigated, sterilized and an exorcism performed.
Then fill the building with Haitians, amiright? Do they eat rats? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
Trump is on record saying the UN building should be sold off. Pretty nice location, IIRC.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (IG4Id)
After its current occupants are evicted via trebuchet, and the building is fumigated, sterilized and an exorcism performed.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:51 PM (FnneF)
192
Trump can be Necessary, and not necessarily Sufficient.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:52 PM (FnneF)
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I wouldn't want anyone here to think I don't care who wins, or that I'm not hopeful that a Trump will WILL make a difference... I just don't think it will, in that bigger picture view.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:50 PM (yI8RN)
Massive things can happen if we get the feral government and our enemies off our neck, and stop them trying to trip us up ever single step of the way
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:50 PM (yI8RN)
Massive things can happen if we get the feral government and our enemies off our neck, and stop them trying to trip us up ever single step of the way
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:52 PM (D7oie)
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" As the numbers dribbled out, he (Podhorzer) could tell that as long as all the votes were counted, Trump would lose."
The whole long article seems framed as "we knew we had the mail-in vote, and Trump was trying to steal the election." They frame every move by Trump was an attack on Democracy, and they (the brave Dems) saved the day, saved the pure election.
Of course it is at Time magazine, so no surprise. But it was a sort of confession of how much effort was put into "fortifying the election", and censoring "misinformation" (like Hunter laptop, Joe the big guy, but that doesn't get mentioned).
Also no mention of why they covered up the windows, or of the video of ballots run through more than once, nor any of the other frauds. It was all perfectly pure, and Trump was plotting to overturn his loss.
The whole long article seems framed as "we knew we had the mail-in vote, and Trump was trying to steal the election." They frame every move by Trump was an attack on Democracy, and they (the brave Dems) saved the day, saved the pure election.
Of course it is at Time magazine, so no surprise. But it was a sort of confession of how much effort was put into "fortifying the election", and censoring "misinformation" (like Hunter laptop, Joe the big guy, but that doesn't get mentioned).
Also no mention of why they covered up the windows, or of the video of ballots run through more than once, nor any of the other frauds. It was all perfectly pure, and Trump was plotting to overturn his loss.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2024 12:52 PM (Cus5s)
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It's not just American policy. The globalist, EU media narrative has already started. Putin makes a red line statement and does nothing when that line is crossed. This time his UN ambassador went in front of the Security council and reiterated that statement. They aren't mentioning that.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:40 PM (42DR
True, but that raises the question: Do the WEF types have any influence over the military decisions being made?
I suppose it's possible they're all over there in Brussels or wherever, pulling what's left of their hair (sorry Harari) out, watching our dingleberry foreign policy nitwits marching us toward destruction.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 12:40 PM (42DR
True, but that raises the question: Do the WEF types have any influence over the military decisions being made?
I suppose it's possible they're all over there in Brussels or wherever, pulling what's left of their hair (sorry Harari) out, watching our dingleberry foreign policy nitwits marching us toward destruction.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:52 PM (yI8RN)
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Piff. A burning EV on every bridge on I-5 in Washington state would both make everyone notice and force the IC and feebs to start lying extravagantly. We are wide open for this sort of terrorism.
Posted by: Kindltot
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and create enough heat to damage the bridge
Posted by: Kindltot
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and create enough heat to damage the bridge
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:53 PM (f/z+J)
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After its current occupants are evicted via trebuchet, and the building is fumigated, sterilized and an exorcism performed.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:51 PM (FnneF)
Animal sacrifice and voodoo. The locals will love it!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:51 PM (FnneF)
Animal sacrifice and voodoo. The locals will love it!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 12:53 PM (w6EFb)
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>>> 196 Piff. A burning EV on every bridge on I-5 in Washington state would both make everyone notice and force the IC and feebs to start lying extravagantly. We are wide open for this sort of terrorism.
Posted by: Kindltot
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and create enough heat to damage the bridge
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:53 PM (f/z+J)
Fire can't melt steel!!!
Posted by: Kindltot
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and create enough heat to damage the bridge
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 12:53 PM (f/z+J)
Fire can't melt steel!!!
Posted by: Rosie O, Super Genius at September 14, 2024 12:53 PM (FnneF)
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They misunderstood that vote on abortion in KS. From what I've read it was badly written and confusing. There are prolife signs all over the state. I don't know if there is enough enthusiasm in the cities for a cheat.
And where do they plan to get Dems to campaign? It won't be Kamala and Walz is MIA right now.
And where do they plan to get Dems to campaign? It won't be Kamala and Walz is MIA right now.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 14, 2024 12:54 PM (MpVUb)
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You're right, looks like I should have included him.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 12:41 PM (RKVpM)
Don't be sorry, everyone forgets Canada.
As we should.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 12:41 PM (RKVpM)
Don't be sorry, everyone forgets Canada.
As we should.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:54 PM (yI8RN)
201
How does Trump Turtle Bay Estates strike you?
Posted by: Cicero
Yuge. Yuge. I'd just mess it up with like castles and armories, but I'm sure some firm could make a few hundred condos out it.
Posted by: Cicero
Yuge. Yuge. I'd just mess it up with like castles and armories, but I'm sure some firm could make a few hundred condos out it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (IG4Id)
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>>> 197 After its current occupants are evicted via trebuchet, and the building is fumigated, sterilized and an exorcism performed.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:51 PM (FnneF)
Animal sacrifice and voodoo. The locals will love it!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 12:53 PM (w6EFb)
I'd leave out the part about putting Haitians, or any other 'immigrants', there.
How much would it be worth as downtown office space?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:51 PM (FnneF)
Animal sacrifice and voodoo. The locals will love it!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 12:53 PM (w6EFb)
I'd leave out the part about putting Haitians, or any other 'immigrants', there.
How much would it be worth as downtown office space?Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (FnneF)
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Don't be sorry, everyone forgets Canada.
As we should.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:54 PM (yI8RN)
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How about AOP, andycanuck, et al.?
As we should.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:54 PM (yI8RN)
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How about AOP, andycanuck, et al.?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (VdhcA)
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Kindltot,
Light a couple on I-84 and hwy 14 too. Don't forget the other bridge. It's pretty easy to wreck havoc on that part of the world.
Light a couple on I-84 and hwy 14 too. Don't forget the other bridge. It's pretty easy to wreck havoc on that part of the world.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (MpVUb)
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51...Again, it is astonishing that DOCTOR Jill Biden went from Vogue cover model in August to complete unperson in September.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)
I can almost feel sorry for her.
Almost.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)
I can almost feel sorry for her.
Almost.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)
206
Now I worry that if sufficiently provoked Putin will waste Kiev.
Kiev is the birthplace of the Russians, and he seems rather fond of the Russians and their history.
Kiev is the birthplace of the Russians, and he seems rather fond of the Russians and their history.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 12:57 PM (KBusA)
207
NATO should have been disbanded the day after the Soviet Union collapsed...and yet here we are.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:42 PM (oZhjI)
And Homeland Security should have been phased out, when Saddam was caught, when Bin Laden was killed... hell, pick any bookmark along the way.
It only exists because it gives them more power over us.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 14, 2024 12:42 PM (oZhjI)
And Homeland Security should have been phased out, when Saddam was caught, when Bin Laden was killed... hell, pick any bookmark along the way.
It only exists because it gives them more power over us.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:58 PM (yI8RN)
208
The UN is probably the world leader in exporting children, corruption and communism globally.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 12:58 PM (Q4IgG)
209
205 51...Again, it is astonishing that DOCTOR Jill Biden went from Vogue cover model in August to complete unperson in September.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)
I can almost feel sorry for her.
Almost.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)
Mirthless laughter is as close as I can get to feeling sorry for that shameless harlot.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)
I can almost feel sorry for her.
Almost.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)
Mirthless laughter is as close as I can get to feeling sorry for that shameless harlot.
Posted by: they're a well-made match those two at September 14, 2024 12:58 PM (QPCEj)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:59 PM (FnneF)
211
^^^So Russian looking strangers carrying gym bags should be added to my target list?
Posted by: Sock Monkey *
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Gym bags? Those blue canvas gym bags from antiquity? Do they still sell those? Wow.
Posted by: Sock Monkey *
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Gym bags? Those blue canvas gym bags from antiquity? Do they still sell those? Wow.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:01 PM (f/z+J)
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I think this is essentially true in a big-picture sense. We're in the late Roman republic stage of our existence, where republican institutions no longer function and we are effectively an empire in denial. No man is going to change that; only a cataclysm will. But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (QPCEj)
Agreed.
I wouldn't want anyone here to think I don't care who wins, or that I'm not hopeful that a Trump will WILL make a difference... I just don't think it will, in that bigger picture view.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:50 PM (yI8RN)
"Let me make one thing clear" and no, this is not a lie.
America is in for very rough times. I know that. Trump cannot save us, but like the fairy godmother in Sleeping Beauty, he may succeed in steering this busted aircraft to a rough but largely successful crash landing. Kamala would give us Shanksville.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (QPCEj)
Agreed.
I wouldn't want anyone here to think I don't care who wins, or that I'm not hopeful that a Trump will WILL make a difference... I just don't think it will, in that bigger picture view.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:50 PM (yI8RN)
"Let me make one thing clear" and no, this is not a lie.
America is in for very rough times. I know that. Trump cannot save us, but like the fairy godmother in Sleeping Beauty, he may succeed in steering this busted aircraft to a rough but largely successful crash landing. Kamala would give us Shanksville.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:02 PM (w6EFb)
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209 205 51...Again, it is astonishing that DOCTOR Jill Biden went from Vogue cover model in August to complete unperson in September.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)
I can almost feel sorry for her.
Almost.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)
Mirthless laughter is as close as I can get to feeling sorry for that shameless harlot.
Posted by: they're a well-made match those two at September 14, 2024 12:58 PM (QPCEj)
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I'm more of a point and LOL kind of guy.
Winston Smith in the Ministry of Truth could not have done a better job of erasing her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 14, 2024 11:48 AM (uxCna)
I can almost feel sorry for her.
Almost.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)
Mirthless laughter is as close as I can get to feeling sorry for that shameless harlot.
Posted by: they're a well-made match those two at September 14, 2024 12:58 PM (QPCEj)
***
I'm more of a point and LOL kind of guy.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 01:02 PM (W/lyH)
214
Not that I'm begging for it, but I was promised a series of escalating October surprises starting about now.....
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:03 PM (jvJvP)
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Don't be sorry, everyone forgets Canada.
As we should.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:54 PM (yI8RN)
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How about AOP, andycanuck, et al.?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (VdhcA)
Yes, they should forget Canada too.
As we should.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:54 PM (yI8RN)
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How about AOP, andycanuck, et al.?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (VdhcA)
Yes, they should forget Canada too.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 01:03 PM (MoQx6)
216
No expert on Tucker's background and don't care, but he was probably above middle class. Lived with dad in La Jolla Shores, right near the old Beach and Tennis Club, went to La Jolla Country Day, then some prep school back east. Think he also married big money (Swanson foods?).
I don't think he's needed the money from his TV gigs for a long time.
I don't think he's needed the money from his TV gigs for a long time.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 01:03 PM (GcNJ2)
217
I can almost feel sorry for her.
Almost.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)
I picture her as a Lady McBeth type, roaming the halls of the White House at night, crying out for the cameras that never come.
Almost.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 12:56 PM (Rbu5d)
I picture her as a Lady McBeth type, roaming the halls of the White House at night, crying out for the cameras that never come.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (MoQx6)
218
Not that I'm begging for it, but I was promised a series of escalating October surprises starting about now.....
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:03 PM (jvJvP)
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My marker is on Biden's scheduled death four weeks before the election +/- one week.
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:03 PM (jvJvP)
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My marker is on Biden's scheduled death four weeks before the election +/- one week.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (VdhcA)
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>>>Animal sacrifice and voodoo. The locals will love it!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
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They should be made aware and offered free transit back to Haiti before being declared an invasive species.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
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They should be made aware and offered free transit back to Haiti before being declared an invasive species.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (f/z+J)
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I'm more of a point and LOL kind of guy.
Posted by: Diogenes
I'm hoping for a shopping cart somewhere in her near future. Preferably a Walmart one so she can't figure out how to get it out of the parking lot.
Posted by: Diogenes
I'm hoping for a shopping cart somewhere in her near future. Preferably a Walmart one so she can't figure out how to get it out of the parking lot.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 01:08 PM (42DR8)
221
Not that I'm begging for it, but I was promised a series of escalating October surprises starting about now.....
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:03 PM (jvJvP)
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My marker is on Biden's scheduled death four weeks before the election +/- one week.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (VdhcA)
These days, every time I open a news page on a Saturday, I wonder if there will be the story: They Got Him This Time.
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:03 PM (jvJvP)
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My marker is on Biden's scheduled death four weeks before the election +/- one week.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (VdhcA)
These days, every time I open a news page on a Saturday, I wonder if there will be the story: They Got Him This Time.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 01:08 PM (MoQx6)
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>>> 193
==
Massive things can happen if we get the feral government and our enemies off our neck, and stop them trying to trip us up ever single step of the way
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:52 PM (D7oie)
>>> 212
==
America is in for very rough times. I know that. Trump cannot save us, but like the fairy godmother in Sleeping Beauty, he may succeed in steering this busted aircraft to a rough but largely successful crash landing. Kamala would give us Shanksville.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:02 PM (w6EFb)
He can certainly *help* by reducing feralgov interference with citizens working to solve their own issues. There still needs to be a reckoning with the filth who've brought us this close to destruction.
==
Massive things can happen if we get the feral government and our enemies off our neck, and stop them trying to trip us up ever single step of the way
Posted by: Kindltot at September 14, 2024 12:52 PM (D7oie)
>>> 212
==
America is in for very rough times. I know that. Trump cannot save us, but like the fairy godmother in Sleeping Beauty, he may succeed in steering this busted aircraft to a rough but largely successful crash landing. Kamala would give us Shanksville.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:02 PM (w6EFb)
He can certainly *help* by reducing feralgov interference with citizens working to solve their own issues. There still needs to be a reckoning with the filth who've brought us this close to destruction.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 01:08 PM (FnneF)
223
Avast blocked powerline ... they say it's because it is a "dangerous website".
Too many "powerful memes" maybe?
Too many "powerful memes" maybe?
Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2024 01:08 PM (Cus5s)
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I'd leave out the part about putting Haitians, or any other 'immigrants', there. How much would it be worth as downtown office space?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (FnneF)
I guess you haven't heard about the commercial real estate crisis.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (FnneF)
I guess you haven't heard about the commercial real estate crisis.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:09 PM (w6EFb)
225
>>>America is in for very rough times. I know that. Trump cannot save us, but like the fairy godmother in Sleeping Beauty, he may succeed in steering this busted aircraft to a rough but largely successful crash landing. Kamala would give us Shanksville.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelis
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The crew survives intact with the Commander retiring and JD Vance taking con of the replacement plane.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelis
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The crew survives intact with the Commander retiring and JD Vance taking con of the replacement plane.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:09 PM (f/z+J)
226
Have read lawmakers often write confusing vote ballot explanation to push what they want
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 01:09 PM (fwDg9)
227
"I laughed at her answer to "how would you reduce prices?"
I didn't hear the response. Was it reduce consumer and grocery options through listeria, theft and sabotage?
I didn't hear the response. Was it reduce consumer and grocery options through listeria, theft and sabotage?
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 14, 2024 01:09 PM (NFX2v)
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>>> 224 I'd leave out the part about putting Haitians, or any other 'immigrants', there. How much would it be worth as downtown office space?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (FnneF)
I guess you haven't heard about the commercial real estate crisis.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:09 PM (w6EFb)
HA!
...and converting commercial to residential is prohibitively expensive...
...oh well, I guess we'll just have to bulldoze the whole thing into the water.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 12:55 PM (FnneF)
I guess you haven't heard about the commercial real estate crisis.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:09 PM (w6EFb)
HA!
...and converting commercial to residential is prohibitively expensive...
...oh well, I guess we'll just have to bulldoze the whole thing into the water.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 01:10 PM (FnneF)
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Do they still sell those? Wow.
Posted by: Braenyard
I live in the woods and wear bib overalls. I don't get out much.
Posted by: Braenyard
I live in the woods and wear bib overalls. I don't get out much.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 01:11 PM (42DR8)
230
Before choosing Mint, had 7, Avast was the choice. They will work with you. There's a work around that allows you to whitelist Powerline.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:12 PM (f/z+J)
231
Kiev is the birthplace of the Russians, and he seems rather fond of the Russians and their history.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 12:57 PM
Many here have read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, and once he returned (perhaps before, tough to determine exactly) to Russia he became a major proponent of Russian nationalism and the Russian Orthodox religion. He favored a reunification of Russia and Ukraine. Putin read of his writings on the topic and I wish I could find them. I am certain it influences Putin's decisions on matters related to Kiev.
If people actually 'drill down' into the matter - and it is no way critical of anyone here - the entire conflict becomes a lot more understandable.
Kiev is the birthplace of the Russians, and he seems rather fond of the Russians and their history.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 12:57 PM
Many here have read Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, and once he returned (perhaps before, tough to determine exactly) to Russia he became a major proponent of Russian nationalism and the Russian Orthodox religion. He favored a reunification of Russia and Ukraine. Putin read of his writings on the topic and I wish I could find them. I am certain it influences Putin's decisions on matters related to Kiev.
If people actually 'drill down' into the matter - and it is no way critical of anyone here - the entire conflict becomes a lot more understandable.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 01:12 PM (RKVpM)
232
Tucker tells you he was rich growing up. Listen to him sometime.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 14, 2024 01:13 PM (wBaIH)
233
229 Do they still sell those? Wow.
Posted by: Braenyard
I live in the woods and wear bib overalls. I don't get out much.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
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I want one. Nostalgic but also cheap, sturdy and efficient.
Posted by: Braenyard
I live in the woods and wear bib overalls. I don't get out much.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
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I want one. Nostalgic but also cheap, sturdy and efficient.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:13 PM (f/z+J)
234
They should be made aware and offered free transit back to Haiti before being declared an invasive species.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (f/z+J)
I think Haiti needs a hard dose of 19th century colonialism.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (f/z+J)
I think Haiti needs a hard dose of 19th century colonialism.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:14 PM (w6EFb)
235
150...But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM
I just can't wait for the Maximian and Diocletian parts!
/s
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM
I just can't wait for the Maximian and Diocletian parts!
/s
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 01:14 PM (Rbu5d)
236
I picture her as a Lady McBeth type, roaming the halls of the White House at night, crying out for the cameras that never come.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (MoQx6)
LOL! Love that image.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (MoQx6)
LOL! Love that image.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:15 PM (w6EFb)
237
I live in the woods and wear bib overalls. I don't get out much.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
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I want one. Nostalgic but also cheap, sturdy and efficient.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:13 PM (f/z+J)
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Now I'm thinking of "Prof." Peter Schickele conducting classes at the U of SND at H wearing bib overalls and a suit coat.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
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I want one. Nostalgic but also cheap, sturdy and efficient.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:13 PM (f/z+J)
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Now I'm thinking of "Prof." Peter Schickele conducting classes at the U of SND at H wearing bib overalls and a suit coat.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:15 PM (VdhcA)
238
I think Haiti needs a hard dose of 19th century colonialism.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:14 PM (w6EFb)
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The only time the place worked after independence was when we were running the place from 1919 to 1933.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:14 PM (w6EFb)
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The only time the place worked after independence was when we were running the place from 1919 to 1933.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:16 PM (VdhcA)
239
He can certainly *help* by reducing feralgov interference with citizens working to solve their own issues. There still needs to be a reckoning with the filth who've brought us this close to destruction.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 01:08 PM (FnneF)
True dat.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 01:08 PM (FnneF)
True dat.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:16 PM (w6EFb)
240
> America is in for very rough times. I know that.
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My wife made an interesting observation yesterday; she said the reason all those apartments are popping up is because the powers that be want everyone in them.
How will they do that?
By raising your property taxes to the point you can't afford your own home. And either raising your insurance rates likewise, or canceling it altogether. Making you choose between paying off the home, or being forced to abandon it.
They're already doing those things with private vehicles. Our insurance rates are twice what they were a decade ago. And the vehicles are not new either.
I think this is a plausible theory.
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My wife made an interesting observation yesterday; she said the reason all those apartments are popping up is because the powers that be want everyone in them.
How will they do that?
By raising your property taxes to the point you can't afford your own home. And either raising your insurance rates likewise, or canceling it altogether. Making you choose between paying off the home, or being forced to abandon it.
They're already doing those things with private vehicles. Our insurance rates are twice what they were a decade ago. And the vehicles are not new either.
I think this is a plausible theory.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 01:16 PM (Q4IgG)
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If people actually 'drill down' into the matter - and it is no way critical of anyone here - the entire conflict becomes a lot more understandable.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 01:12 PM (RKVpM)
I believe it is entirely accurate to say he invaded in the first place, in part to SAVE Ukraine from the West.
But I also don't doubt, if he thinks it's not salvageable, he will destroy it.
And again, our chuckleheads in DC and corporate media have been using the fact he hasn't done so as some sort of evidence NATO is winning.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 14, 2024 01:12 PM (RKVpM)
I believe it is entirely accurate to say he invaded in the first place, in part to SAVE Ukraine from the West.
But I also don't doubt, if he thinks it's not salvageable, he will destroy it.
And again, our chuckleheads in DC and corporate media have been using the fact he hasn't done so as some sort of evidence NATO is winning.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 01:18 PM (MoQx6)
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The Week in Pictures: Cat-astrophe Edition
https://shorturl.at/n59Jy
Powerline
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
A lot of really good work in there.
https://shorturl.at/n59Jy
Powerline
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
A lot of really good work in there.
Posted by: t-bird at September 14, 2024 01:18 PM (KBusA)
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Possible Russian targets for reprisal if long - range strike weapons are given to Ukraine for attacking deep into Russia:
Tactical nuke the air base installations in Western Ukraine, and staging areas for importing NATO-US weapons.
The Russkies will not nuke Kiev.
Tactical nuke a US carrier battle group off of Iran, the Russkies bestest buddies.
I was particularly amused by the Polish Member of Parliament lambasting Blinken the other day.
Tactical nuke the air base installations in Western Ukraine, and staging areas for importing NATO-US weapons.
The Russkies will not nuke Kiev.
Tactical nuke a US carrier battle group off of Iran, the Russkies bestest buddies.
I was particularly amused by the Polish Member of Parliament lambasting Blinken the other day.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 14, 2024 01:18 PM (tjZg/)
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NATO recently stated outright that they started the war.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - remember when women's jobs were valuable and had meaning? at September 14, 2024 01:20 PM (wVArG)
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The only time the place worked after independence was when we were running the place from 1919 to 1933.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:16 PM (VdhcA)
I guess they'll have to wait for our gentle but firm ministrations. We have business at home first.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:16 PM (VdhcA)
I guess they'll have to wait for our gentle but firm ministrations. We have business at home first.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:20 PM (w6EFb)
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Of course they could! If they wanted to. But so far, they haven't wanted to. But to acknowledge that would completely contradict the entire reasoning for getting us involved in the first place.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (yI8RN)
The Kievan Rus' were baptised in Kiev, in the Dnieper, under the rule of Great (and Saint) Prince Vladimir. In AD 988.
Prince Vladimir's namesake does NOT want to destroy Kiev.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 12:47 PM (yI8RN)
The Kievan Rus' were baptised in Kiev, in the Dnieper, under the rule of Great (and Saint) Prince Vladimir. In AD 988.
Prince Vladimir's namesake does NOT want to destroy Kiev.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 01:21 PM (Rbu5d)
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They should be made aware and offered free transit back to Haiti before being declared an invasive species.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (f/z+J)
I think Haiti needs a hard dose of 19th century colonialism.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
I think it needs a hard does of VX nerve gas. The place is Satanic. The Dominican Republic, on the other side of the island, wants NOTHING to do with Haiti.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:05 PM (f/z+J)
I think Haiti needs a hard dose of 19th century colonialism.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
I think it needs a hard does of VX nerve gas. The place is Satanic. The Dominican Republic, on the other side of the island, wants NOTHING to do with Haiti.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at September 14, 2024 01:22 PM (tjZg/)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 01:22 PM (42DR8)
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A lot to read in between Harris's answers.
Her 'middle class' is child of 2 academic PHD's, they could easily bought a house but they were going through a divorce so who is buying a house then?
Her mother did get a house after a new position in Canada.
Her 'middle class' is child of 2 academic PHD's, they could easily bought a house but they were going through a divorce so who is buying a house then?
Her mother did get a house after a new position in Canada.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 01:23 PM (fwDg9)
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My wife made an interesting observation yesterday; she said the reason all those apartments are popping up is because the powers that be want everyone in them.
How will they do that?
By raising your property taxes to the point you can't afford your own home. And either raising your insurance rates likewise, or canceling it altogether. Making you choose between paying off the home, or being forced to abandon it.
They're already doing those things with private vehicles. Our insurance rates are twice what they were a decade ago. And the vehicles are not new either.
I think this is a plausible theory.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 01:16 PM (Q4IgG)
I watched a Rebel Capitalist video with Robert Barnes and a guest, discussing the sneaky and illegal way they're wildly raising property values in order to cover budget shortfalls. Multiple states, and often targeted.
How will they do that?
By raising your property taxes to the point you can't afford your own home. And either raising your insurance rates likewise, or canceling it altogether. Making you choose between paying off the home, or being forced to abandon it.
They're already doing those things with private vehicles. Our insurance rates are twice what they were a decade ago. And the vehicles are not new either.
I think this is a plausible theory.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 14, 2024 01:16 PM (Q4IgG)
I watched a Rebel Capitalist video with Robert Barnes and a guest, discussing the sneaky and illegal way they're wildly raising property values in order to cover budget shortfalls. Multiple states, and often targeted.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 14, 2024 01:23 PM (w6EFb)
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What is so nice about search engines and search terms at places like Amazon is the total disregard for your input. Requesting a canvas bag will generate multiples of synthetic one's.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:26 PM (f/z+J)
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...oh well, I guess we'll just have to bulldoze the whole thing into the water.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 01:10 PM (FnneF)
[nods approvingly]
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 14, 2024 01:10 PM (FnneF)
[nods approvingly]
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 01:26 PM (Rbu5d)
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235 150...But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM
I just can't wait for the Maximian and Diocletian parts!
Hold my wine.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM
I just can't wait for the Maximian and Diocletian parts!
Hold my wine.
Posted by: Elagabalus at September 14, 2024 01:26 PM (+myjY)
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She's got a point: Force is a Revolutionary Joy.
Posted by: Tom Perry at September 14, 2024 01:27 PM (MX0bI)
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 01:27 PM (LkLld)
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NATO.INT
"The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.
The opposite happened... "
"The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn't sign that.
The opposite happened... "
Posted by: Moron Robbie - remember when women's jobs were valuable and had meaning? at September 14, 2024 01:27 PM (wVArG)
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My homeowner's insurance went up 40% this year.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:27 PM (f/z+J)
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From #31 Prayer Thread
How long a sentence did you serve after shiving the head cook?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 14, 2024 08:22 AM (QXQ4l)
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3 schools (over 10 years but the food got better as I went up schools - or I got used to it
The funniest was early days, I'm 10 at first boarding school at a breakfast were we were served fried bananas, after a bowl of porridge. They either had sprinkled sugar or cinnamon I don't remember which but I took one taste and the fried oily taste turned my stomach so I left it. As we were leaving the dining-hall a sneak told the teacher in charge who called me back and had me sit down and eat it. After I had finished it with difficulty, he had me stand as he gave me a lecture on not wasting food. At that moment I promptly upchucked all over his highly polished brown shoes (see I remember that detail). I was never again bothered about leaving food in my plate.
How long a sentence did you serve after shiving the head cook?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at September 14, 2024 08:22 AM (QXQ4l)
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3 schools (over 10 years but the food got better as I went up schools - or I got used to it
The funniest was early days, I'm 10 at first boarding school at a breakfast were we were served fried bananas, after a bowl of porridge. They either had sprinkled sugar or cinnamon I don't remember which but I took one taste and the fried oily taste turned my stomach so I left it. As we were leaving the dining-hall a sneak told the teacher in charge who called me back and had me sit down and eat it. After I had finished it with difficulty, he had me stand as he gave me a lecture on not wasting food. At that moment I promptly upchucked all over his highly polished brown shoes (see I remember that detail). I was never again bothered about leaving food in my plate.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, ho vomitato sulle scarpe del maestro at September 14, 2024 01:28 PM (qfLjt)
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U of SND at H ??
University of Southern North Dakota at Horace?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 01:22 PM (42DR
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Hoople.
University of Southern North Dakota at Horace?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 01:22 PM (42DR
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Hoople.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:29 PM (VdhcA)
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...oh well, I guess we'll just have to bulldoze the whole thing into the water.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
Dismantle it and ship the pieces to France. Maby the UN can fix France's discombobulated government. It'll keep em busy for 100 years or so.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
Dismantle it and ship the pieces to France. Maby the UN can fix France's discombobulated government. It'll keep em busy for 100 years or so.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * considering the imponderables at September 14, 2024 01:30 PM (42DR8)
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at places like Amazon is the total disregard for your input.
I tried "Cats, Ready to Eat" and just got cat food as a result. Yuck!
I tried "Cats, Ready to Eat" and just got cat food as a result. Yuck!
Posted by: The Hungry Haitian at September 14, 2024 01:30 PM (KBusA)
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>>>Her mother did get a house after a new position in Canada.
Posted by: Skip
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Considering Kamala and the apple/tree hypothesis it's possible that mom, freed from the bondage of marriage, didn't have several positions.
Posted by: Skip
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Considering Kamala and the apple/tree hypothesis it's possible that mom, freed from the bondage of marriage, didn't have several positions.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:31 PM (f/z+J)
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:31 PM (jvJvP)
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Well, I best get busy moving compost and planting carrots. Nice little break , thank you all.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at September 14, 2024 01:31 PM (Rbu5d)
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MUST WATCH!!: Active duty military IN A WAR ZONE are SHOCKED to hear VP Kamala Harris claim they’re NOT in a war zone! One soldier asks, “Where the F*** are we right now?”
So I guess they are in Italy.
So I guess they are in Italy.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 01:32 PM (W/lyH)
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GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 01:32 PM (fwDg9)
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So I guess they are in Italy.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 01:32 PM (W/lyH)
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Or Detroit.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 14, 2024 01:32 PM (W/lyH)
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Or Detroit.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 14, 2024 01:32 PM (VdhcA)
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This story has legs.....
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:31 PM (jvJvP)
Of course it does, the legs are some of the meatiest parts of a cat.
Posted by: Stateless at September 14, 2024 01:31 PM (jvJvP)
Of course it does, the legs are some of the meatiest parts of a cat.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 14, 2024 01:33 PM (kEMs0)
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"Before choosing Mint, had 7, Avast was the choice. They will work with you. There's a work around that allows you to whitelist Powerline." Posted by: Braenyard
yeah, but I have Avast to tell me if there is a problem, and I don't know if they just made a political decision. But "dangerous website" seems too vague.
I do like those pictures of the week.
yeah, but I have Avast to tell me if there is a problem, and I don't know if they just made a political decision. But "dangerous website" seems too vague.
I do like those pictures of the week.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 14, 2024 01:34 PM (Cus5s)
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And, one more: https://tinyurl.com/mvpz6av3
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (iODuv)
I particularly liked the "Trump and son" one.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 14, 2024 12:37 PM (iODuv)
I particularly liked the "Trump and son" one.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2024 01:35 PM (dTTBf)
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My homeowner's insurance went up 40% this year.
Same here. Not quite that drastic in my case but it absolutely floored me.
Same here. Not quite that drastic in my case but it absolutely floored me.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 14, 2024 01:40 PM (mH6SG)
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Rufo, who's generally pretty careful and thorough about his stuff, has cat-eating video up. In the US, and recent, and I think Haitian migrants/immigrants. Anyway.
Sort of unimportant but - the 1,000th time some outwardly shocking or outlandish assertion by evil right-wingers or the Dread Trumpenfuhrer has turned out to be ..... correct, and documented. Amusing in a way.
Sort of unimportant but - the 1,000th time some outwardly shocking or outlandish assertion by evil right-wingers or the Dread Trumpenfuhrer has turned out to be ..... correct, and documented. Amusing in a way.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 01:54 PM (GcNJ2)
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Think a commenter brought this forward but I can't find it to give credit.
Nicole Shanahan brings more heat:
https://tinyurl.com/nhft9m5d
Nicole Shanahan brings more heat:
https://tinyurl.com/nhft9m5d
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 01:56 PM (f/z+J)
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$700 home insurance increase. Plus car insurance increase. Plus grocery price increases.
But inflation is totes under control.
Mythical really.
But inflation is totes under control.
Mythical really.
Posted by: preposterous at September 14, 2024 01:57 PM (QPCEj)
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Checked out ABC's X account and found...
Always Be Cheating
Anything But Credible
and the most accurate...
Angryfarmer2024 @Mrxgamer1500 2h Replying to @ABC
Ass bitch cunt network
Always Be Cheating
Anything But Credible
and the most accurate...
Angryfarmer2024 @Mrxgamer1500 2h Replying to @ABC
Ass bitch cunt network
Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 14, 2024 02:05 PM (CEzQx)
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Yesterday, 87 yr old Mickey Edwards* (Marvin Henry Yanowsky), formerly a republican member of the U.S. House (Ok, 5th District, 1977 to 1993) wrote for The Inquirer, 'Because the World is watching' When considering the foreign policy issue, there is only one choice for President'
As to the Q is she tough enough, Edwards (now with the Aspen Institute) wrote in part, "I've known Harris for nearly 20 years. I brought her, as young DA into a program where she engaged in bipartisan conversations with other elected officials about everything...
"I traveled with her for meetings with top political, military, business, and civic leaders in China, India, Egypt, Israel, and Jordan, and with Arab leaders in Ramallah and Amman. ..."
(How? When? Edwards left Congress 1993. Harris was DA of SF 2003-2010; 7 yrs). Then elected CA AG 2010, reelected 2014 and elected to US Senate 2017; another 7 years)
"Harris, in Congress, knew how to work across the aisle; Trump seems members of another party as...enemies. ..."
---
She drops the '20 Presidential race, but becomes VP. She walks into the 'democratic' candidate POTUS, '24. 7 yrs
*a founding trustee Heritage FDN.
Project 2025
As to the Q is she tough enough, Edwards (now with the Aspen Institute) wrote in part, "I've known Harris for nearly 20 years. I brought her, as young DA into a program where she engaged in bipartisan conversations with other elected officials about everything...
"I traveled with her for meetings with top political, military, business, and civic leaders in China, India, Egypt, Israel, and Jordan, and with Arab leaders in Ramallah and Amman. ..."
(How? When? Edwards left Congress 1993. Harris was DA of SF 2003-2010; 7 yrs). Then elected CA AG 2010, reelected 2014 and elected to US Senate 2017; another 7 years)
"Harris, in Congress, knew how to work across the aisle; Trump seems members of another party as...enemies. ..."
---
She drops the '20 Presidential race, but becomes VP. She walks into the 'democratic' candidate POTUS, '24. 7 yrs
*a founding trustee Heritage FDN.
Project 2025
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at September 14, 2024 02:19 PM (NFX2v)
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I'm an introvert who just had a shave and a haircut from a barber who didn't say anything. It was wonderful.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at September 14, 2024 02:30 PM (X6Fkb)
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*a founding trustee Heritage FDN.
Project 2025
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you,
------------------------------------------------
From the beginning, Project 2025 was intended to undermine Trump.
Project 2025
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you,
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From the beginning, Project 2025 was intended to undermine Trump.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 02:35 PM (f/z+J)
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Today's hyping of Kamala by leftist Bill Maher:
"Taylor's Swift's endorsement has saved Democracy."
I laughed.
"Taylor's Swift's endorsement has saved Democracy."
I laughed.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2024 02:36 PM (dTTBf)
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Posted by: andycanuck (CEzQx) at September 14, 2024 02:05 PM (CEzQx
I prefer my own: "Absolutely Biased coverage" or "Absolutely Biased Commentators."
I prefer my own: "Absolutely Biased coverage" or "Absolutely Biased Commentators."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2024 02:38 PM (dTTBf)
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I might gio with
Always Being Communists
Always Being Communists
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 02:40 PM (fwDg9)
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Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 02:40 PM (fwDg9)
Yes, very good. Much better than "a**bitch c***t network because although I sometimes curse in private, I think there are probably any number of male cheerleaders for Kamala as well and I can't stand the use of the word "c****
Yes, very good. Much better than "a**bitch c***t network because although I sometimes curse in private, I think there are probably any number of male cheerleaders for Kamala as well and I can't stand the use of the word "c****
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2024 02:43 PM (dTTBf)
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I am positive a fight jet went over but missed seeing it, doesn't happen often here
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 02:55 PM (fwDg9)
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I'm gonna need a summary of the top 5 Project 2025 ideas/proposals that haven't been conventional wisdom *on the Democratic "side"* (as evidenced by SOTUs, convention speeches, etc) up until 2008 (hell, even some of it, then).
In a delusionally dumbed-down era in which having a border and any sovereignty or immigration rule of law is deemed "populist", political rhetoric has become impossibly and irretrievably stupid and baseless.
In a delusionally dumbed-down era in which having a border and any sovereignty or immigration rule of law is deemed "populist", political rhetoric has become impossibly and irretrievably stupid and baseless.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 02:56 PM (GcNJ2)
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White woman does a spot on imitation of every Kamala Harris speech. From "Legal Insurrection" site:
https://tinyurl.com/mvv7yx7h
https://tinyurl.com/mvv7yx7h
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2024 03:01 PM (dTTBf)
286
Fen I have see a few white women doing Harris impersonations, pretty funny
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 03:03 PM (fwDg9)
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285 Sorry; -I don't think the clip is from "Legal Insurrection" but another site; Sorry.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 14, 2024 03:03 PM (dTTBf)
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Appears the PA local newz TV edited Kamala's interview to reduce the worst word salad parts. In what they aired.
Surprise!
Surprise!
Posted by: rhomboid at September 14, 2024 03:09 PM (GcNJ2)
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That the modus operandi, interview Harris a hour and get 15 minutes out of it.
It was another tee ball interview.
It was another tee ball interview.
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 03:23 PM (fwDg9)
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PET NOOD
Posted by: Skip at September 14, 2024 03:47 PM (fwDg9)
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The game between the Portland State Vikings and the South Dakota Coyotes has been canceled due to illness within the Portland State locker room. The Vikings announced the decision on Saturday morning, just hours before kickoff.
According to a statement from Portland State, multiple players developed a case of pertussis, also known as whooping cough. After discussions between team doctors on both sides, the two programs thought it was in the best interest of all involved to cancel the game.
Gee, I wonder what the origins of the disease were? Not really.
According to a statement from Portland State, multiple players developed a case of pertussis, also known as whooping cough. After discussions between team doctors on both sides, the two programs thought it was in the best interest of all involved to cancel the game.
Gee, I wonder what the origins of the disease were? Not really.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 14, 2024 03:48 PM (mH6SG)
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>>>Gee, I wonder what the origins of the disease were? Not really.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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That's what you call Diversity.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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That's what you call Diversity.
Posted by: Braenyard at September 14, 2024 04:04 PM (f/z+J)
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Nothing stays the same. Comparing 2016 with now is not a good comparison. Even 2020 doesn't work. ...
We got Elon, RFK Jr and Tulsi in exchange for Kinzinger, Dick and Liz Cheney. The Republican Party has been completely transformed into a party of the average American increasingly across all demographics. The left is losing their grip on their censorship apparatus including a huge document drop yesterday detailing the US government collusion with the UK and other foreign governments to censor improper thoughts. And the economy, inflation and mass immigration is changing a lot of people. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 12:07 PM (LkLld)
Nicole Shannon has been transformed into an ambassador of MAGA to the disaffected Lefties. Her recent videos all carry the same message: "Hey, you're being lied to by the media. MAGA is an affirmational message, and Donald Trump is not the threat -- the Uniparty is."
We got Elon, RFK Jr and Tulsi in exchange for Kinzinger, Dick and Liz Cheney. The Republican Party has been completely transformed into a party of the average American increasingly across all demographics. The left is losing their grip on their censorship apparatus including a huge document drop yesterday detailing the US government collusion with the UK and other foreign governments to censor improper thoughts. And the economy, inflation and mass immigration is changing a lot of people. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at September 14, 2024 12:07 PM (LkLld)
Nicole Shannon has been transformed into an ambassador of MAGA to the disaffected Lefties. Her recent videos all carry the same message: "Hey, you're being lied to by the media. MAGA is an affirmational message, and Donald Trump is not the threat -- the Uniparty is."
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 14, 2024 04:13 PM (pJWtt)
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 14, 2024 04:19 PM (mH6SG)
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I don't believe a Trump win or a Trump loss will make much difference.
I think this is essentially true in a big-picture sense. We're in the late Roman republic stage of our existence, where republican institutions no longer function and we are effectively an empire in denial. No man is going to change that; only a cataclysm will. But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (QPCEj)
==
I appreciate the sentiment - but - I think you are wrong.
Certain things are going to change because the deep state has limited assets to use domestically. Independents are running away from Harris. So without cheating, the race is already over. Big money has decided to take on the international deep state - so we have a billionaire fight going on.
I fully expect if Harris were to manage a win by you know what, half the states will actively begin nullification proceedings. The military cannot even make recruitment targets right now. The Guard dwarfs it. So there will not be a bullet exchange. The feds are in trouble. And the big blue urban centers will be pressuredin any purple state.
I think this is essentially true in a big-picture sense. We're in the late Roman republic stage of our existence, where republican institutions no longer function and we are effectively an empire in denial. No man is going to change that; only a cataclysm will. But there is a very big difference between Rome's good emperors and the bad ones. So too here.
Posted by: I Know Which I Prefer at September 14, 2024 12:34 PM (QPCEj)
==
I appreciate the sentiment - but - I think you are wrong.
Certain things are going to change because the deep state has limited assets to use domestically. Independents are running away from Harris. So without cheating, the race is already over. Big money has decided to take on the international deep state - so we have a billionaire fight going on.
I fully expect if Harris were to manage a win by you know what, half the states will actively begin nullification proceedings. The military cannot even make recruitment targets right now. The Guard dwarfs it. So there will not be a bullet exchange. The feds are in trouble. And the big blue urban centers will be pressuredin any purple state.
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Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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