The "rules-based international order" vs. free speech?

The left has actually arrived at the Idi Amin position on free speech.

Carl Benjamin

Have you noticed more attacks on free speech than usual?

Noticed more press censorship than normal? More out-and-proud attacks on free speech (plus push-back)?

Yesterday in The Week in Woke, Ace included a video clip of Kamala speaking to the NAACP: "I will direct the DOJ to censor 'misinformation and hate' online". And she asserted that it was necessary to fight this fight as a "community".

A "community" backed up by the strength of the Department of Justice to keep hate and misinformation off social media!

From the comments:

The ARC of History! at September 06, 2024 06:48 PM

Matt Taibbi has been doing a study of the various disinformation "laboratories" at places like Stanford and the University of Washington, and has noted a curious thing about their "research".
The government never provides "misinformation".
All information provided by the government is correct and truthful.
Only opponents of the government provide misinformation.

I think the post below is about the same study by Matt Taibbi:

John Hinderaker on Liberal Know-Nothingism:

A novel aspect of our present political moment is that the more credentials a person has, the more likely he or she is to be a Democrat. This wasn’t true 50 years ago; on the contrary. But creeping credentialism has become a key feature of our culture. I think we are in the midst of a coup being carried out by people who are dumb, but have credentials, usually half-baked.
These thoughts are prompted by Matt Taibbi’s current Racket News post. I am not sure whether that link will work if you are not a Racket News subscriber. If not, you might consider signing up. Meanwhile, I will try to do justice to the post with a few excerpts.
Briefly, Taibbi has obtained documents in response to a FOIA request. His post focuses on an alleged “misinformation” expert named Michael Caulfield, of the University of Washington. Early in the covid fiasco, Caulfield wrote an email in which he ridiculed people who were trying to understand the actual lethality of the virus:
Caulfield dismissed efforts to analyze data to figure out what was happening, on the ground that most people lack credentials. (Not that he himself had any relevant expertise, by the way.) Instead, the average person–pretty much everyone–should just figure out “who [sic] to trust.” And that would be the government.

Check out the details at the link.

Of course, as to the covid epidemic, the oft-censored independent voices generally turned out to be right, and the government was wrong.
Finally, I note that Caulfield described thinking for oneself as “a lousy epistemology.” As a one-time student of epistemology, I say with confidence that no philosopher has ever advanced such a theory. The idea that one should always believe the government and follow its dictates has a name, not in epistemology but in politics. It starts with an F. That is where today’s Democratic Party lives.

Why are academia and government teaming up to teach people not to think?

Jay Bhattacharya

We need to make viruses more dangerous to protect you from viruses.
We need to suppress dissident scientists to preserve science.
We need to suppress free speech to preserve democracy.

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Does the "rules-based international order" sound like a conspiracy theory?

A 16 minute excerpt from an interview with Eric Weinstein showed up in my Twitter feed this week. He is a man of the left, but interesting for a few reasons, among which are:

1. He knows J.D. Vance
2. He is Bret Weinstein's brother and a free speech advocate
3. He named the Intellectual Dark Web. Remember them?

In this excerpt, Weinstein helps explain the behavior of members of The Borg and manages to make one wonder how conspiratorial the "international rules-based order" is, without panicking. Sorry if my comments are disjointed, but the interview is kinda disjointed.

“I purposely left it vague and I didn’t say the other part of it, which I now feel comfortable saying:
I don’t know whether Donald Trump will be allowed to become president.”… pic.twitter.com/IcX3p3YCv2
— Rothmus 🏴 (@Rothmus) September 3, 2024

Trump is seen as a threat to "the rules-based international order" which is supposed to keep the world free of war and keep markets open. I don't think a lot of people think that this "international order" has been in terrific shape.

Eric Weinstein is unsettled about this year's election, and his thoughts here should not be considered to be definitive. There are some alternative ideas in the comment thread, too. He doesn't think that Trump will be allowed to become president, or to function as president.

He views Kamala Harris as the tail end of the group trying to hold the order together just a little longer. He thinks the State Department and other agencies have a responsibility to explain to voters that if they choose populist presidents, those populist presidents may risk international agreements. As if the Deep State would ever be this frank with voters!

Check out the last segment starting at 13 minutes, on the media.

There are people who disagree and have other points of view in the comment thread.

The longer video from which the excerpt above was taken - more than 3 hours - may be a window into a world with which J.D. Vance was familiar before he became the candidate for Vice President. Eric was the only Democrat at a 3 day meeting years ago with J.D. in Ohio. The segment concerning J.D. Vance starts at 3 hours 19 minutes. He describes his personal experiences with J.D. as being not exactly like the person he sees campaigning. But he is confident that J.D. cares about hillbillies. He describes slavery in the 20th century, lots of it white.
Democrats abandoned the working poor, Republicans started listening to them.

Also in the last segment, how the Democrats will likely neutralize Trump.

Although the video at YouTube includes major topics for segments you can skip to at the bottom of the screen, the entire interview has a kind of stream-of-consciousness character and may be sort of hard for a lot of people to follow. Much of this three-hour interview goes over my head, especially the parts about math and physics, with references to previous conversations between the two men. But the final part, starting at 2 hours 48 minutes, is worthwhile listening, with interesting ideas and memorable illustrations about things like the importance of holding on to heritage and the sacred. He is very concerned about the frightening way heterosexual relationships and white men have been denigrated and ignored in the culture.

He sees AOC as a communist and Kamala Harris as a sort of amalgam of things like Marxist and crony finance (3 hr 9 min). The segment on "what can be, unburdened by what has been" is kind of scary. It starts at 3 hours 3 minutes.

He recognizes that we don't have a president at this time.

In case you have been wondering what Eric's brother Bret has been doing lately, he has been campaigning to defeat the enemies of free speech - namely the Democratic Party and their cohorts.

The Party of Joy

Censorship

Zero is a special number.

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Music

Eric Weinstein described why Something Like That by Tim McGraw is a great, slightly cringey song supporting committed heterosexual relationships in society (at 2 hours and 52 minutes in the longer video).

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, August 31, California as a ridiculous oligarchy

A couple of topics from the post:

- Gavin Newsom is capable of spending a ridiculous amount of money.

- Peter Thiel compared California to Saudi Arabia.

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:13 AM

Comments

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1 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 11:14 AM (fwDg9)

2 The first amendment is backed up by the second amendment. Enough is enough and enough said.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 07, 2024 11:17 AM (Aoykm)

3 lol I thought the first pic was Lloyd Austin doing cosplay as the top general of a tinpot dictatorship's military.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at September 07, 2024 11:18 AM (2xB3Z)

4 There is a lot to be concerned about. Apparently there is not a lot that can be done about it. Not now anyway.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2024 11:19 AM (Q4IgG)

5 I'm old enough to remember when Dick Cheney was "Darth Cheney" to the left.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at September 07, 2024 11:20 AM (2xB3Z)

6 The first amendment is backed up by the second amendment. Enough is enough and enough said.

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 07, 2024 11:20 AM (WQlnC)

7 Good morning!

Posted by: KT at September 07, 2024 11:21 AM (xekrU)

8 STEINER WILL COME

Who the hell is Steiner and why would we need help? Just give up already and vote like Dick.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at September 07, 2024 11:22 AM (Aoykm)

9 At least that Harris and Walz are being termed as Marxists by many is a good road to see.

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 11:22 AM (fwDg9)

10 STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 07, 2024 11:20 AM (WQlnC)

You have turned into a one trick pony. Perhaps you should just overdose on those black pills and get it over with.

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 07, 2024 11:23 AM (89Sog)

11 My ‘community’ believes in the First AND Second Amendments because these Amendments mutually support each other. Like infantry and armor.

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 11:24 AM (o2ZRX)

12 Heh, Joy.

Spend years having to try to defend why you are on the side of Dick Cheney and the neocons.

Then stop having to do that.

This is what freedom feels like.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 07, 2024 11:24 AM (SzECQ)

13 The left takes as their own whatever suits their needs at the time. Currently they're taking anyone who was nominally right of center who's "voting for Harris."

They will discard them after the election.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2024 11:25 AM (Q4IgG)

14 Thought it might be Austin too, but Austin wears more medals. Also probably still wears a mask and face shield. He's so essential to our defense that he was in the ICU for 4 days before anyone noticed he was gone. DEI on steroids.

Posted by: Fat Is Where It's At at September 07, 2024 11:25 AM (CV8a5)

15 And when STEINER arrives, he will be riding a ONE TRICK PONY.
Around the mountain. When he comes.

And on the bloody morning after? One Trick Pony rides away.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at September 07, 2024 11:27 AM (zdLoL)

16 The left takes as their own whatever suits their needs at the time. Currently they're taking anyone who was nominally right of center who's "voting for Harris."

They will discard them after the election.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2024 11:25 AM (Q4IgG)

Or this has nothing to do with left/right.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 07, 2024 11:27 AM (SzECQ)

17 The Hindu Dindu speaking to the NAACP. That's rich. A collection of grifters and nobodies! Who pays heed to them for the last 50 years?

Posted by: Get A Job! at September 07, 2024 11:29 AM (CV8a5)

18 I watched the Eric Weinstein video with a lot of breaks. It's interesting but it's a shame he can't break past his prejudices.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 11:29 AM (MpVUb)

19 Thought it might be Austin too, but Austin wears more medals. Also probably still wears a mask and face shield. He's so essential to our defense that he was in the ICU for 4 days before anyone noticed he was gone. DEI on steroids.
Posted by: Fat Is Where It's At at September 07, 2024 11:25 AM (CV8a5)

Also, whenever anyone talks about America's role in geopolitics, the names Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinkin, and a handful of others come up.

Lloyd Austin? Nobody even stops to consider he's not in the conversation.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 07, 2024 11:30 AM (SzECQ)

20 DEI-O!
DEI-EI-EI-O!
Daylight come and me want go home.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at September 07, 2024 11:30 AM (VdhcA)

21 I watched the Eric Weinstein video with a lot of breaks. It's interesting but it's a shame he can't break past his prejudices.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 11:29 AM (MpVUb)

Eric has an ego, and I really think he can't quite see it.

Some of what he says about the people who shut him out of academia, it comes off as sour grapes. Like he knows he belongs, and they won't let him play their reindeer games.

So when it comes to Trump, and others he's rubbed shoulders with, he takes whatever is their worse qualities, and amplifies them to the point of considering them the whole of the person, the reason they can't be trusted, the way they're not as good as him.

And it causes dissonance in ways I don't think he even notices. It's a very human mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 07, 2024 11:33 AM (SzECQ)

22 >>Cheney

Reconciling that era's dissonance:

1. G.W. Bush is a chimp who couldn't run a lemonade stand. Cheney runs everything.

2. G.W. Bush is the cynical mastermind of a sinister cabal operated on his behalf by Cheney to fake 9/11 so he could avenge his father's political legacy by conquering Iraq under the guise of nonexistent but well-marketed "weapons of mass destruction."

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 11:34 AM (P+D4R)

23 19 Thought it might be Austin too, but Austin wears more medals. Also probably still wears a mask and face shield. He's so essential to our defense that he was in the ICU for 4 days before anyone noticed he was gone. DEI on steroids.
Posted by: Fat Is Where It's At at September 07, 2024 11:25 AM (CV8a5)

Also, whenever anyone talks about America's role in geopolitics, the names Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinkin, and a handful of others come up.

Lloyd Austin? Nobody even stops to consider he's not in the conversation.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 07, 2024 11:30 AM (SzECQ
Gets the coffee, like what the Clintons said ubama was there for.

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 11:34 AM (o2ZRX)

24 I really think that a whole lot of eyes have been opened.
The economy is shit and the democrats say its the best it's ever been. That alone has a lot of people asking questions. The persecution of Trump is pretty eye opening as well. The protests and riots on behalf of murderous terrorists and in your face Jew hatred are very obvious.
Even the LIV part of the citizenry are getting fed up with all this bullshit. They can see how much worse things are since Trump was ousted. They know who is responsible.
Harris thinks that being quiet and letting the media handle her publicity is going to make people forget all of this. She is wrong.
Eyes are opened and the masks are off. Everyone can see the rotten fruit of the poison tree. They know who is trying to force everyone to eat that fruit.
Interesting times indeed.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 11:34 AM (4XwPj)

25 Well, it irritated me that he talked about RFK Jr's bravery, while running in light of his family history. But they shot Trump and he is alive only by the grace of God. And he is still running. Yet Eric couldn't acknowledge that.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 11:36 AM (MpVUb)

26 24 They know who is trying to force everyone to eat that fruit.
Interesting times indeed.
Posted by: Madamemayhem

The one person with a Harris sign here no longer has it up. I wonder if it was taken or they rethought.

Posted by: Piper at September 07, 2024 11:37 AM (pZEOD)

27 Free speech? Kamala the Magnificent told us in 2019 how she feels about an unregulated Twitter, but it applies to all sites: " they are directly speaking to millions and millions of people without any level of oversight or regulation. And that has to stop."

https://t.ly/v0MA4

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at September 07, 2024 11:38 AM (7te1w)

28 I can't find the remote.

Posted by: Accomack at September 07, 2024 11:39 AM (tLPHV)

29 @20 Ogosh, there was a parody of that during GW2 with top members of the Bush admin. Seems so long ago, but I'm sure we had links to it here.

A sidelong reminder, for upcoming mockery, that this Starliner capsule was christened "Calypso." For other reasons, but still.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at September 07, 2024 11:39 AM (zdLoL)

30 After watching the Deep State the last time Trump was in office, his next term will be a death match. What else can he do?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 11:40 AM (foNCE)

31 >>27 Free speech? Kamala the Magnificent

Eventually speech will be unnecessary.

Posted by: ZOD Orwell at September 07, 2024 11:40 AM (P+D4R)

32 "Yet Eric couldn't acknowledge that.'

Couldn't or wouldn't? I am going with wouldn't.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 07, 2024 11:40 AM (Z8Yh2)

33 can't find the remote.
Posted by: Accomack at September 07, 2024 11:39 AM (tLPHV)

Steiner took it but don't worry, he'll bring it back!

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 07, 2024 11:40 AM (89Sog)

34
The government never provides "misinformation".

All information provided by the government is correct and truthful.

Only opponents of the government provide misinformation.

Sounds like the leader of New Zealand during COVID.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 07, 2024 11:41 AM (63Dwl)

35 Hey piper! Today the workout was a 30 minute walk! My knee didn't want to do squats so I took it for a walk instead. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong with the squats or if I just have a bitchy knee. But it hasn't objected to walking.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 11:41 AM (4XwPj)

36 Shtein-AH! Felix Steiner!

"I'm COMING!!"

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at September 07, 2024 11:43 AM (zdLoL)

37 "What else can he do?"

He can fire anyone in his sphere as Executive without fear of impeachment per the supremes.

That is if we had an actual legal system.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 07, 2024 11:43 AM (Z8Yh2)

38 >>30 Trump...What else can he do? Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 11:40 AM (foNCE)

He could eat a baby during a primetime speech.

Not saying he should, only that he (probably) could.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 11:43 AM (P+D4R)

39 Eyes are opened and the masks are off. Everyone can see the rotten fruit of the poison tree. They know who is trying to force everyone to eat that fruit.
Interesting times indeed.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 11:34 AM (4XwPj)

And yet, the polls are close. Seeing difference between Trump's four years and Biden's, Trump should have a 20-point lead. Talk about LIVs.

We may see not only a D victory, but a landslide, including the steal. Ds will claim a mandate.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at September 07, 2024 11:43 AM (7te1w)

40 How they keep Trump out?
Virtually no effort required at all - just let.a potential assassin by.

Throughout time, from centuries ago until just weeks ago, this hs been proven effective.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (/lPRQ)

41 Well, it irritated me that he talked about RFK Jr's bravery, while running in light of his family history. But they shot Trump and he is alive only by the grace of God. And he is still running. Yet Eric couldn't acknowledge that.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 11:36 AM (MpVUb)

He hints at knowing things the rest of us don't, and I think there's something dishonest about that too.

What do you know, Eric? Is it Epstein stuff? We've heard all that too, you either know something we don't, or you got sucked in with the rest of them, and want to believe the worst of Trump... even though there's NO evidence Trump took part in the underaged stuff. None.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (Nnb2j)

42 39 Eyes are opened and the masks are off. Everyone can see the rotten fruit of the poison tree. They know who is trying to force everyone to eat that fruit.
Interesting times indeed.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 11:34 AM (4XwPj)

And yet, the polls are close. Seeing difference between Trump's four years and Biden's, Trump should have a 20-point lead. Talk about LIVs.

We may see not only a D victory, but a landslide, including the steal. Ds will claim a mandate.
Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at September 07, 2024 11:43 AM (7te1w)
They may claim a mandate, but reap a whirlwind.

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (o2ZRX)

43 35 Hey piper! Today the workout was a 30 minute walk! My knee didn't want to do squats so I took it for a walk instead. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong with the squats or if I just have a bitchy knee. But it hasn't objected to walking.
Posted by: Madamemayhem

Be very careful! I knew a guy down at the loading dock who dropped dead jogging home from the health food store.

Posted by: Archie Bunker, 1972 at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (CV8a5)

44 Who will be Trumps enforcers within his administration. What happens if the bureaucrats in the various departments simply refuse to carry out his orders, or basically work to rule.

Posted by: javems at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (8I4hW)

45 Nancy Mace will come.

Posted by: Steiner at September 07, 2024 11:47 AM (aD39U)

46 Assume Trump wins and the Republicans take the Senate with wins in Montana and West Virginia.

Are Biden and Schumer going to force Sotomayor to resign and then ram through a Supreme Court nominee prior to 1/20/25?

They would have to wipe out the filibuster, but they would certainly do that when they think the stakes are this high.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 07, 2024 11:47 AM (HlyYF)

47 For all of us who knew things were getting bad - things have gotten much worse, much faster than even we thought possible. The new fascist ascendancy is now feeling empowered to go for the takeover as soon as possible.

It leaves me wishing for a complete crash of the entire international system, if only to block them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 11:47 AM (fIpti)

48 35 Hey piper! Today the workout was a 30 minute walk! My knee didn't want to do squats so I took it for a walk instead. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong with the squats or if I just have a bitchy knee. But it hasn't objected to walking.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at

Brisk walking is awesome! What kind of squats are you doing? In any squat, it’s seat and hips first, the rest follows, gaze forward. Your knees track over the middle of your feet, but not over your toes, which should be forward. If you are doing a sumo squat, make sure you turn your toes out slightly and it’s okay to have your knees track over them. If you have larger hand weights, you can stand on the heads of one of them for an elevated squat and it will force your knees in the right position, too.

Posted by: Piper at September 07, 2024 11:49 AM (pZEOD)

49 Did you know that the Houthis arrested a number of Yemeni employees of the US Embassy in 2021, and continues to hold eleven of them today?

Weird that this received zero publicity.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 11:50 AM (uxCna)

50 And how do you get credentialed now? By being a leftard. Hence the creeping credentialism. Hence why plagiarism is a key feature of the credentialed class. You get your stripes by stating oaths to the leftard flavor of the day. That's not how it was 50 years ago.

Posted by: ... at September 07, 2024 11:50 AM (lX8VI)

51 46 Assume Trump wins and the Republicans take the Senate with wins in Montana and West Virginia.

Are Biden and Schumer going to force Sotomayor to resign and then ram through a Supreme Court nominee prior to 1/20/25?

They would have to wipe out the filibuster, but they would certainly do that when they think the stakes are this high.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at September 07, 2024 11:47 AM (HlyYF
I guarantee it’s on the table for consideration. Along with the cheat, and their old favorite, assassination.

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 11:50 AM (o2ZRX)

52 >>44 Who will be Trumps enforcers within his administration. Posted by: javems at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (8I4hW)

There will be none. Since hiring Roy Cohn, he's forgotten how to hire quality people.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 11:51 AM (P+D4R)

53 Yup Idi Amin liked long pig. And he was crazy. But he wasn't stupid. The problem with the people pushing censorship is that they are too stupid to realize they will be turned into long pig

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 07, 2024 11:52 AM (RshWO)

54 The problems Trump had in his first four were..
He naively thought that the Republicans honestly wanted the same things he did and would help get those things done.
He naively thought the democrats honestly wanted what was best for the country and would work with him to achieve that goal.
He didn't understand that the uniparty is rotten to the core and only wants what is best for the uniparty.
He wasn't sure who the good guys were and who the bad guys were.
He wasn't sure if he could do some things because of dishonest people telling him he couldn't.

Trump doesn't make the same mistake twice. He knows the game, the players, and the rules now.
Second 4 = Trump unleashed. Fuck their rules he'll play by his own rules.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 11:53 AM (4XwPj)

55 Lots of sunshine here today. Thanks for bringing it! And a very hearty thank you to Steiner! I knew you would be here today!

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 07, 2024 11:53 AM (89Sog)

56 Who will be Trumps enforcers within his administration. Posted by: javems at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (8I4hW)

Ric Grenell is his Roy Cohn.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 11:54 AM (aD39U)

57 51

'I guarantee it’s on the table for consideration. Along with the cheat, and their old favorite, assassination.'

It's a shame that the assassination fomenters don't see some lead come their way.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 07, 2024 11:54 AM (3wi/L)

58 And yet, the polls are close. Seeing difference between Trump's four years and Biden's, Trump should have a 20-point lead. Talk about LIVs.

The polls are being kept close as part of the disinformation campaign against Trump.

If you look at the political betting markets, they are swinging towards a 2:1 Trump advantage.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 11:56 AM (uxCna)

59 Also, whenever anyone talks about America's role in geopolitics, the names Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinkin, and a handful of others come up.”

I follow some serious Israeli and Egyptian accounts on X , and now whenever the names Blinken and Sullivan come up in that context, both sides regard them as fools and incompetents unworthy of serious attention, weak men who are totally out of their depth.

The last time Blinken went to Cairo, the Egyptian government refused to send anyone at all to greet him, a huge violation of protocol, and he was forced to call some embassy staffer to come pick him up. The US is not taken seriously in the region anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 11:56 AM (fIpti)

60 Ahem

Posted by: The Barrel at September 07, 2024 11:57 AM (aD39U)

61 You know they decertified Dr Pierre Kory for saving lives with ivermectin. Dr Jay is very lucky they haven'r done the same to him.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 11:57 AM (J9dQQ)

62 Along with the cheat, and their old favorite, assassination.

The problem is they then get JD Vance as President.

Remember, the assassination attempt was before Trump had named a Vice Presidential candidate.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 11:57 AM (uxCna)

63 Another interesting X thread from Eric Weinstein.

https://bit.ly/3ATLyoB

He asked ChatGPT "To which political parties is this unspecified party most similar worldwide and throughout history?" after providing a list of policies that most align with the current US Democrat and Communist parties.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 07, 2024 11:59 AM (P5BPp)

64 So, I assume the D's are saving the George W. Bush and Taylor Swift endorsements for maximum political impact.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:00 PM (uxCna)

65 >>54 The problems Trump had in his first four were..

He allowed his daughter to marry a mute Vulcan.
He did not have Stormy Daniels and E. Jean Carroll arrested and executed.
He did not install the Transborder Industrial Mastic Human Flypaper Array.
He did not bomb Baltimore/Philadelphia.

Other things.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:00 PM (P+D4R)

66 "I don’t know whether Donald Trump will be allowed to become president."

If anything happens to President Trump, I doubt the deep state has accurately calculated the cost.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:01 PM (W/lyH)

67
Are Biden and Schumer going to force Sotomayor to resign and then ram through a Supreme Court nominee prior to 1/20/25?”

That cunning plan falls apart at the “force Sotomayor to resign” stage.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 12:02 PM (fIpti)

68 The polls are being kept close as part of the disinformation campaign against Trump.
Posted by: The ARC of History

Good! That keeps Trump and his campaign staff, the RNC, and the supporters pushing hard and staying on message.
And that message is resonating with R, D, and I voters.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:02 PM (4XwPj)

69 65 Other things.
Posted by: ZOD at

Has he reached out yet to execute a consultancy agreement?

Posted by: Piper at September 07, 2024 12:04 PM (p4NUW)

70 >>Ric Grenell is his Roy Cohn.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 11:54 AM (aD39U)

Ric Grennell ran ODNI when Zod was a contractor there. ODNI was (and remains) a thorough mess--countless antiterrorism analysis papers during his tenure focused on the "domestic incel threat."

It was creepy.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:04 PM (P+D4R)

71 If Trump had been killed, there’s no way Biden would have dropped out of the race. Think about that for a bit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 12:04 PM (fIpti)

72 Article at American Thinker on how DJT might win the real vote in Pa but will not win the ballots, Pa has set up massive potential mail ( and street sewer boxes) fraud.

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 12:05 PM (fwDg9)

73 >>Has he reached out yet to execute a consultancy agreement? Posted by: Piper at September 07, 2024 12:04 PM (p4NUW)

My agenda requires a more capable messenger. Trump is broken.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:06 PM (P+D4R)

74 "I don’t know whether Donald Trump will be allowed to become president."

I expect that they'll try to refuse to certify the election, and take other measures if Trump wins.

The problem is that the central government in the United States doesn't control all the cops, which is unusual, and the central government in the United States doesn't even control all the military, which I think is unique to the US.

If it an obvious steal, enforcing the steal is going to be a problem.

That's why they are trying to keep it close enough so that the steal has some level of plausibility.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:06 PM (uxCna)

75 56 Who will be Trumps enforcers within his administration. Posted by: javems at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (8I4hW)

Ric Grenell is his Roy Cohn.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 11:54 AM (aD39U
Probably..

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 12:06 PM (o2ZRX)

76 Comical to see Liz Cheney endorsing Colin Allred in Texas. Never Trumpers started off claiming they were conservative alternative to Trump, now they’re openly supporting liberal democrats against any conservative candidates.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 12:09 PM (fIpti)

77 62 Along with the cheat, and their old favorite, assassination.

The problem is they then get JD Vance as President.

Remember, the assassination attempt was before Trump had named a Vice Presidential candidate.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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There was probably a reason that Nikki suddenly decided to go to the Republican National Convention just before the attempt.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:09 PM (kW+z9)

78 If it an obvious steal, enforcing the steal is going to be a problem.

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 07, 2024 12:10 PM (DY2gD)

79 76 Comical to see Liz Cheney endorsing Colin Allred in Texas. Never Trumpers started off claiming they were conservative alternative to Trump, now they’re openly supporting liberal democrats against any conservative candidates.
Posted by: Tom Servo
========
No love for the DC establishment except for power and money. Liz wants to get paid now that she has no power.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:10 PM (kW+z9)

80 I am trying to think of the odds we won't know who won by DJT'S 26 November court date now.

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 12:11 PM (fwDg9)

81 Who will be Trumps enforcers within his administration. Posted by: javems at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (8I4hW)

Musk. Director of public accountability.
I want someone to walk through every fucking agency wearing a cloak and carrying a scythe. Just silently point at random people and lead them out of the room. They will never return and their co-workers will have to pack up the personal belongings.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:11 PM (4XwPj)

82 Ric Grennell ran ODNI when Zod was a contractor there. ODNI was (and remains) a thorough mess--countless antiterrorism analysis papers during his tenure focused on the "domestic incel threat."

It was creepy.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:04 PM (P+D4R)
=============
Can someone remind me again what defines "an incel"?

I forget things.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 12:11 PM (bmSBK)

83 Involuntary celibate.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:13 PM (4XwPj)

84 Comical to see Liz Cheney endorsing Colin Allred in Texas. Never Trumpers started off claiming they were conservative alternative to Trump, now they’re openly supporting liberal democrats against any conservative candidates.

That is hilarious.

"As a lifelong Republican, Donald Trump is a unique and unprecedented threat to American democracy, so I'm endorsing his opponent.

Also, while I'm at it, let me endorse a bunch of other Democrats."

This is the route that the Bulwark and a bunch of Never Trumpers have taken - after all, the monkeys have to dance for the people who are paying them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:13 PM (uxCna)

85 Liz Cheney. For Trump, she's like that girl you dated until you realized she was mental and then dumped and she just can't get over it. At all. Forever.

Some dogs should be kicked, some more than once. She's one such.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:13 PM (P+D4R)

86 78 If it an obvious steal, enforcing the steal is going to be a problem.

STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty
==========
You know, there are far better ways to spend a Saturday than a tedious black pill schtick.

If what you say is true that nothing can save us, then nothing matters including your posts. If it is not true, then your comments do not matter either.

So what is the point to repeat, re-repeat, and repeat again exactly?

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:14 PM (kW+z9)

87 Why are academia and government teaming up to teach people not to think?
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As a non-thinker, even I am agin' this.

Posted by: Weasel at September 07, 2024 12:15 PM (uGpeQ)

88 81 Who will be Trumps enforcers within his administration. Posted by: javems at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (8I4hW)

Musk. Director of public accountability.
I want someone to walk through every fucking agency wearing a cloak and carrying a scythe. Just silently point at random people and lead them out of the room. They will never return and their co-workers will have to pack up the personal belongings.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:11 PM (4XwPj)
I love this idea!

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 12:16 PM (o2ZRX)

89 Liz Cheney. For Trump, she's like that girl you dated until you realized she was mental and then dumped and she just can't get over it. At all. Forever.

Liz is a whore. She only moved to Wyoming because there was an open Senate seat, settled for the House seat, and then immediately moved back to her home in Northern Virginia when she lost the House seat.

With no political career left, she has to grub for money from the people who will pay her.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:16 PM (uxCna)

90 80 I am trying to think of the odds we won't know who won by DJT'S 26 November court date now.
Posted by: Skip

We have to simply sweat it out.

I would prepare at least a couple of months worth of rations, a way to get clean water, and provisions for the power grid being affected. If you have chronic illness and require medicine, having a 90-180 day supply of those might also be useful.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:17 PM (kW+z9)

91 >>Just silently point at random people and lead them out of the room. They will never return
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:11 PM (4XwPj)

Just silently point at random agencies and lead them out of the room.

AP: Department of Agriculture Liquidated; HQ Building Rubbled.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:18 PM (P+D4R)

92 STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty

What the fuck is your damage? Nevermind, I just remembered, I don't care. If the only purpose you serve here is to try to demoralize the horde, then perhaps you should deprive us of your brilliance. That'll teach us for sure!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:19 PM (4XwPj)

93 I will never forget Dr Campbell interviewing Dr Kory. They went over the evidence step by step. And the only conclusion was that the media and medical community lied to us.

No one likes that the evidence shows us the corruption of our government. But that is where we are.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 12:19 PM (MpVUb)

94 Just silently point at random agencies and lead them out of the room.

AP: Department of Agriculture Liquidated; HQ Building Rubbled.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:18 PM

Zod shouldn't tease.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 07, 2024 12:20 PM (Pcgt+)

95 >>With no political career left, she has to grub for money from the people who will pay her.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:16 PM (uxCna)

And she's homely, so selling her in the Leia-bikini sex-trafficking racket is a bust.

(Ask Zod how he knows this)

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:20 PM (P+D4R)

96 Liz is a whore. She only moved to Wyoming because there was an open Senate seat, settled for the House seat, and then immediately moved back to her home in Northern Virginia when she lost the House seat.

With no political career left, she has to grub for money from the people who will pay her.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

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I find it more interesting that her father has come out of the closet than her. It may have something to do with covering up illegalities during the Bush years and the whole Jan 6 star chamber that hid the elites plans to avoid electoral votes being challenged.

Probably enough crimes were committed there with the Big Steal in 2020 enough to make a lot of the existing GOPe and the Dem establishment swing for treason.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:21 PM (kW+z9)

97 saw 2 Trump/Vance signs today.. It's newsworthy because I am in a super Lib area... Came home and the neighbor just put up a Harris/Walz sign... Ruined my excitement

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2024 12:21 PM (IyPmt)

98 And she's homely, so selling her in the Leia-bikini sex-trafficking racket is a bust.

(Ask Zod how he knows this)
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:20 PM

*considers asking Zod how he knows this*

*thinks better of it and does not ask*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 07, 2024 12:23 PM (Pcgt+)

99 If the only purpose you serve here is to try to demoralize the horde

I think Trump will win, and it's not going to be close.

No major political party has ever nominated a candidate that is so deficient in basic political skills as Kamala.

That being said, I think that they will try to keep Trump from taking office, but I also don't think that they will succeed.

If they kill Trump, they get Vance.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:23 PM (uxCna)

100 Just silently point at random agencies and lead them out of the room.

AP: Department of Agriculture Liquidated; HQ Building Rubbled.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:18 PM

Zod shouldn't tease.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 07, 2024 12:20 PM (Pcgt+)
***

Suddenly my vision narrowed, my breathing and heart rate accelerated, and I got a funny feeling in my man place.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:23 PM (W/lyH)

101 Is Liz Cheney lost? What draged her to TX ? And...why did you people let her in ??

Posted by: runner at September 07, 2024 12:24 PM (9pFgx)

102 Ruined my excitement
Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2024 12:21 PM (IyPmt)

Now you know who you can take stuff from if the shtf. There is always a brightspot in the darkest of clouds.***

*** Sorry for dishing out a red pill. I'll try an stop that!

Posted by: I'll choose a new nick later-Certified Dangerous Radical at September 07, 2024 12:24 PM (89Sog)

103

Kamala Hamas - "Amin what's I says!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 07, 2024 12:25 PM (x0n13)

104 Weinstein: "Trump made a very uncomfortable accommodation with the CIA [Narrator adds: "and Five Eyes"] at the beginning of his term"
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Clearly, they didn't uphold the deal (if there was one) and overturned his presidency. This time Trump isn't in a deal making mood, so, fuck you, war.

How PDJT will kick off his new term is unpredictable, but I expect aggression right off the bat. He goes hard after the IC because he knows with absolute certainty they intend to prevent him from being President.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 12:25 PM (YSiSD)

105 So, Democracy is a scam. We the People can never choose our leaders because the oligarchy will neutralize them.

Oh well. Give me some Soma and pneumatic women.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 07, 2024 12:26 PM (+H2BX)

106 I seen only as many Harris Walz signs I could count on 1 hand, Trump signs are popping up everywhere

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 12:26 PM (fwDg9)

107 I'm voting for the candidate that war criminals Dick Cheney and Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin have endorsed!

And I'm excitedly waiting for George W. Bush's endorsement!

Posted by: The Media! at September 07, 2024 12:26 PM (uxCna)

108 saw 2 Trump/Vance signs today.. It's newsworthy because I am in a super Lib area... Came home and the neighbor just put up a Harris/Walz sign... Ruined my excitement
Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2024 12:21 PM (IyPmt)

I still have a Soviet flag that I picked up in Afghanistan back when the Soviets were there. I may get a Harris sign and drape that over it.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:27 PM (W/lyH)

109 106 I seen only as many Harris Walz signs I could count on 1 hand, Trump signs are popping up everywhere
Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 12:26 PM (fwDg9)

I'm in a super socialist part of NorCal.. To see a Trump sign is unusual.. And brave

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2024 12:27 PM (IyPmt)

110
AP: Department of Agriculture Liquidated

NO! Not that!

Posted by: Hank Kimball at September 07, 2024 12:27 PM (63Dwl)

111 >>If they kill Trump, they get Vance.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:23 PM (uxCna)

Then we all have to start having kids.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (P+D4R)

112 Ein Volk!

Ein Reich!

Ein Kamala!

Posted by: The Media! at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (uxCna)

113 AP: Department of Agriculture Liquidated; HQ Building Rubbled.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:18 PM

CNN Breaking News: the Department of Education Headquarters has just been demolished!
The FBI has been defunded and all personnel have been sent home! We're told that there will be no further compensation for those workers and their pensions have been cancelled!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (4XwPj)

114 I would like for Trump to put up slides of those nanotechnology particles they found in the mRNA vaccine. And he could say " they lied to you and to me. No one knew there were things like this in their vaccine. They need to be held accountable".

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (MpVUb)

115 . . .and the neighbor just put up a Harris/Walz sign... Ruined my excitement
Posted by: It's me donna
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Important PSA, political signs and their sign holders make for good mounts for targets for firearm practice. Through experience, I know they are excellent backer board for target mounting and take a lot of hits without leaving trash like the cardboard ones do.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:29 PM (kW+z9)

116 CNN Breaking News: the Department of Education Headquarters has just been demolished!
The FBI has been defunded and all personnel have been sent home! We're told that there will be no further compensation for those workers and their pensions have been cancelled!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (4XwPj)

*fans self*
Vapors! I'm getting the vapors!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:30 PM (W/lyH)

117 Then we all have to start having kids.

I was all for halving a kid!
- King Solomon

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 07, 2024 12:30 PM (DY2gD)

118 >>> 88 81 Who will be Trumps enforcers within his administration. Posted by: javems at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (8I4hW)

Musk. Director of public accountability.
I want someone to walk through every fucking agency wearing a cloak and carrying a scythe. Just silently point at random people and lead them out of the room. They will never return and their co-workers will have to pack up the personal belongings.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:11 PM (4XwPj)
I love this idea!
Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 12:16 PM (o2ZRX)

Scale it up. Drive around Dee Cee and its 'burbs and point at *buildings*, preferably starting with the J Edgar Hoover building.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 07, 2024 12:31 PM (FnneF)

119 111 >>If they kill Trump, they get Vance.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:23 PM (uxCna)

Then we all have to start having kids.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (P+D4R)

Be a miracle... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2024 12:31 PM (IyPmt)

120 114 I would like for Trump to put up slides of those nanotechnology particles they found in the mRNA vaccine. And he could say " they lied to you and to me. No one knew there were things like this in their vaccine. They need to be held accountable".
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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True dat. Trump also pushed through the creation of monoclonal antibodies that saved a lot of folks from the worst of covid. Including me.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:31 PM (kW+z9)

121 Idi Amin's quote pairs well with another quote of his:
"You cannot run faster than a bullet”

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/1725135.Idi_Amin

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 07, 2024 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

122
And I'm excitedly waiting for George W. Bush's endorsement!

The October surprise.

Posted by: Hank Kimball at September 07, 2024 12:31 PM (63Dwl)

123 Then we all have to start having kids.
Posted by: ZOD
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Given the size of your harem, that is a lot of squalling babies to listen to.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:31 PM (kW+z9)

124 The writing has been on the wall a long time for the Bush Cheney group....Not supporting McCain or Romney!....and Laura and the brats hinting that they voted for Obama and are pro choice.

Posted by: Mishdog at September 07, 2024 12:32 PM (iAsUu)

125 You are fanning the wrong orifice.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 07, 2024 12:32 PM (+H2BX)

126 >>> 91 >>Just silently point at random people and lead them out of the room. They will never return
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:11 PM (4XwPj)

Just silently point at random agencies and lead them out of the room.

AP: Department of Agriculture Liquidated; HQ Building Rubbled.
Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:18 PM (P+D4R)

Of course, ZOD has already decided this.

HAIL ZOD!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 07, 2024 12:32 PM (FnneF)

127 122
And I'm excitedly waiting for George W. Bush's endorsement!

The October surprise.
Posted by: Hank Kimball at September 07, 2024 12:31 PM (63Dwl)

Tay Tay's endorsement would have more impact

Posted by: It's me donna at September 07, 2024 12:32 PM (IyPmt)

128 >>The FBI has been defunded and all personnel have been sent home! Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (4XwPj)

The FBI has been defunded and all personnel

[ ] Sent home.
[x] Soylent Green.
[x] Sold to ISIS.
[x] Leia-bikini sold to Taliban for "Man Thursday" initiation.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:32 PM (P+D4R)

129 l101 Is Liz Cheney lost? What draged her to TX ? And...why did you people let her in ??
Posted by: runner at September 07, 2024 12:24 PM (9pFgx)

No one had any idea she was here, it was news to me.. it’s like those big cockroaches, they slip under the crack in the door late at night when no one’s looking.

Funny how she obviously will never set foot in Wyoming again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 12:32 PM (fIpti)

130 nanotechnology particles they found in the mRNA vaccine.

====

people....stop it

Posted by: runner at September 07, 2024 12:33 PM (9pFgx)

131 The Three "E"s. Education, Energy, and EPA.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at September 07, 2024 12:33 PM (+H2BX)

132 The October surprise.
Posted by: Hank Kimball

Tay Tay's endorsement would have more impact
Posted by: It's me donna
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Both are probably putting fingers to the wind to see which way it is blowing. Neither are a profile in courage.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:34 PM (kW+z9)

133 Funny how she obviously will never set foot in Wyoming again.
Posted by: Tom Servo
=========
I am sure Wyoming voters sigh in relief.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:35 PM (kW+z9)

134 It's a peer reviewed study. I downloaded a copy of it. They are nanoparticles that assemble and disassemble. This isn't made up stuff

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 12:35 PM (MpVUb)

135 putting fingers to the wind

(Makes fart noise)

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 07, 2024 12:36 PM (DY2gD)

136 115 . . .and the neighbor just put up a Harris/Walz sign... Ruined my excitement
Posted by: It's me donna
-----
Important PSA, political signs and their sign holders make for good mounts for targets for firearm practice. Through experience, I know they are excellent backer board for target mounting and take a lot of hits without leaving trash like the cardboard ones do.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:29 PM (kW+z9
There is iron in the words of Whig for all to see.
- Ten Bears

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 12:36 PM (o2ZRX)

137 111 >>If they kill Trump, they get Vance.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 07, 2024 12:23 PM (uxCna)

Then we all have to start having kids.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:28 PM (P+D4R)

Not me. Don't wanna pass my faulty genes. Also, too old, too ugly, too broke. Quite the trifecta there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 07, 2024 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

138
Happy Saturday, all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 07, 2024 12:36 PM (lCaJd)

139 I still have a Soviet flag that I picked up in Afghanistan back when the Soviets were there. I may get a Harris sign and drape that over it.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:27 PM (W/lyH)

Reminds of a local city council race where one of the candidates was caught in a campaign finance scandal involving a strip club. On my commute to work one morning someone had draped a bra over that candidates sign.

Posted by: Rex B at September 07, 2024 12:36 PM (592Pr)

140 FOX news: Breaking News
President Trump has ordered the United States military to secure the border with Mexico and has given the order to prevent infiltration with extreme prejudice! He has also ordered that detainment centers be emptied and all detainees returned to Mexico. We are hearing now that he has signed deportation orders for anyone who is in the country illegally whether they claimed asylum or not.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:36 PM (4XwPj)

141 they "found" nanoparticles , because there were there from the beginning, kept the "vaccine" stable or something

Posted by: runner at September 07, 2024 12:36 PM (9pFgx)

142 off to work. I actually have a paying gig I gotta do. Good luck all.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 07, 2024 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

143 it's a group of protein, blah blah blah...it's not Borg. needs further study and testing? sure . just like anything. but I think it's been common in biotech for at least a decade

Posted by: runner at September 07, 2024 12:39 PM (9pFgx)

144 >>> 96

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I find it more interesting that her father has come out of the closet than her. It may have something to do with covering up illegalities during the Bush years and the whole Jan 6 star chamber that hid the elites plans to avoid electoral votes being challenged.

Probably enough crimes were committed there with the Big Steal in 2020 enough to make a lot of the existing GOPe and the Dem establishment swing for treason.
Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:21 PM (kW+z9)

OrangeManBad was so persistently Bad that Stan's Retards finally tried to murder him. Even LIVs can grasp that trying to *kill* the guy because you don't like him is a bit much. Now he has RFK Jr on the team, whose father and uncle WERE murdered.

I'm not convinced Trump will be able to achieve retribution himself, but...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 07, 2024 12:39 PM (FnneF)

145 may get a Harris sign

Naw ya gotta buy one, they don't just give em away.
Or everyone would do that.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at September 07, 2024 12:39 PM (DY2gD)

146 This is the video and you can go to the site and download the paper.

https://tinyurl.com/y3sx8wkp

And no, vaccines don't have this kind of crap in them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 12:39 PM (MpVUb)

147 "Ì am Idi Amin Dada. Three Is, three As, and one gun."

Posted by: Sharkman at September 07, 2024 12:40 PM (7NLIW)

148 I still have a Soviet flag that I picked up in Afghanistan back when the Soviets were there. I may get a Harris sign and drape that over it.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:27 PM (W/lyH)

*Zod-like

You will do this. And you will take a photo and post on the ONT.

Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 12:41 PM (9pFgx)

149 FOX news: Breaking News
And now that crazy bastard has ordered the removal of Congresswoman Omar for immigration fraud!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:42 PM (4XwPj)

150 "Ì am Idi Amin Dada. Three Is, three As, and one gun."
Posted by: Sharkman at September 07, 2024 12:40 PM (7NLIW
------------
Idi, Idi, Idi Amin
Most amazing man the world has seen
He the President, the General, the King of the Sea
Idi, Idi, Idi Amin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFeJJAQPiK4&t=227s

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at September 07, 2024 12:42 PM (VdhcA)

151 >>> 130

====

people....stop it
Posted by: runner at September 07, 2024 12:33 PM (9pFgx)

You're not the boss of me!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 07, 2024 12:42 PM (FnneF)

152 I watched the Eric Weinstein video with a lot of breaks. It's interesting but it's a shame he can't break past his prejudices.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 11:29 AM (MpVUb)

He says he doesn't know Trump. He could know Trump if he sought to.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 07, 2024 12:44 PM (w6EFb)

153 OrangeManBad was so persistently Bad that Stan's Retards finally tried to murder him. Even LIVs can grasp that trying to *kill* the guy because you don't like him is a bit much. Now he has RFK Jr on the team, whose father and uncle WERE murdered.

I'm not convinced Trump will be able to achieve retribution himself, but...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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Our ruling class turned into monsters that have made life steadily worse since the 90's while the average folks were simply trying to stay afloat from the malicious and evil things that the ruling class has done to them. Destroyed reasonable cost health care, destroyed universities and k12 education, destroyed the economy, destroyed civil society, and destroyed the Fed Gov's finances that will lead to a collapse.

Who thought the Stay Puft Marshmallow due in Ghostbusters was actually a metaphor for the Uniparty establishment.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:44 PM (kW+z9)

154 Kind of interesting that you think this is no big deal, yet the people that study viruses for a living found it unexpected.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 12:45 PM (MpVUb)

155 AP: Trump Elected, Leaves NATO; Russia Nukes Paris

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:45 PM (P+D4R)

156 152 I watched the Eric Weinstein video with a lot of breaks. It's interesting but it's a shame he can't break past his prejudices.

Posted by: Notsothoreau

He says he doesn't know Trump. He could know Trump if he sought to.
Posted by: Miley
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Excessive pride in oneself leads to trouble. Been that way since Stan and Cain.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:46 PM (kW+z9)

157 Ah, Dick Cheney! Mr. Gravitas.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 07, 2024 12:46 PM (w6EFb)

158 156 Agreed.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at September 07, 2024 12:47 PM (w6EFb)

159 Is Liz Cheney lost? What draged her to TX ? And...why did you people let her in ??
Posted by: runner at September 07, 2024 12:24 PM (9pFgx)

You can bet an honorarium consisting of a cash stuffed envelope was involved.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:47 PM (W/lyH)

160 Idi looks like a character out of the Stooges.

Posted by: Redenzo at September 07, 2024 12:47 PM (V/pbu)

161 And your side gets funding from Russia to spew its propaganda.

Posted by: Sid at September 07, 2024 12:47 PM (6bZAH)

162 AP: Trump Elected, Leaves NATO; Russia Nukes Paris
Posted by: ZOD

Uncle Palp nods in agreement.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 07, 2024 12:47 PM (0ly5J)

163 They may claim a mandate, but reap a whirlwind.
Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 11:45 AM (o2ZRX)

Sadly, no they won't. The majority will just keep their heads down and go about their little lives, hoping they aren't noticed. Covid was a real eye opener as to the behavior of the average person in meat space. The last 40 or 50 years of indoctrination has produced a very compliant population.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 07, 2024 12:48 PM (iODuv)

164 Well, this was fun but I have to go out and buy massive amounts of chocolate. My chocolate addiction has been under control for awhile now but tomorrow I can't have solid food or dairy products. So thanks to the colonoscopy on Monday I'm going to binge on chocolate today.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:49 PM (4XwPj)

165 They dont have nukes the vaunted force de frappe

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at September 07, 2024 12:50 PM (PXvVL)

166 They used nanoparticles for Zika, and that N1H1 flu business, way back in 2015. But , you know, it could be Borg.

Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 12:51 PM (9pFgx)

167 Idi was trained thd brits and the israelis fought for them kenya i giess you never can tell

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at September 07, 2024 12:51 PM (PXvVL)

168 Sadly, no they won't. The majority will just keep their heads down and go about their little lives, hoping they aren't noticed. Covid was a real eye opener as to the behavior of the average person in meat space. The last 40 or 50 years of indoctrination has produced a very compliant population.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 07, 2024 12:48 PM (iODuv)
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This is for the most part, true, but as we see at the Trump rallies, Americans are hungry for leadership. Calm effective leaders could create a groundswell of peaceful civil disobedience that could be very effective.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:51 PM (W/lyH)

169 all this crap need decades of research that is true, but I really don't think in and of itself it's the Debil

Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 12:52 PM (9pFgx)

170 So thanks to the colonoscopy on Monday I'm going to binge on chocolate today.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:49 PM (4XwPj)

So you leave us with that visual image???
Sheesh!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:53 PM (W/lyH)

171 154 Kind of interesting that you think this is no big deal, yet the people that study viruses for a living found it unexpected.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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Thanks for the link. There was an earlier Japanese study finding junk in the Moderna vaxx that should not have been there. Did not distinguish between poor manufacturing processes and nefarious intent.

UK, of all places, is leading on the research over problems from the adrenovirus carrier based Astra Zeneca vaxx. J&J used a similar approach but the one shot regimen may have precluded the severe problems after that the Astra Zeneca vaxx produced in some people. It had a two shot regimen plus then boosters.

Novavax which is not mRNA but an older vax design is available for Covid if you feel you must vaccinate against what has essentially become another 'cold' corona virus.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:53 PM (kW+z9)

172 155 AP: Trump Elected, Leaves NATO; Russia Nukes Paris
Posted by: ZOD

A shame about the artwork

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 07, 2024 12:54 PM (Ydd86)

173 >>So thanks to the colonoscopy on Monday I'm going to binge on chocolate today.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:49 PM (4XwPj)

Immediately after the final bowel purge, swallow a small pearl. Immediately before the anesthesia sets in, look at the doctor and say "Pearl-diver."

It makes it funner for them.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 12:54 PM (P+D4R)

174 It could be anything. But it simply is not supposed to be there. In the examples you give, did the particles assemble and disassemble on their own? These did. If you want to argue with someone, I suggest you go to the site, download the paper and argue with the researchers. We have people with serious health issues and unexplained deaths caused by these vaccines.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 12:55 PM (MpVUb)

175 It is truly disgusting how amoral and corrupt the entire Bush organization and administration have proved to be.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 12:55 PM (fIpti)

176 So you leave us with that visual image???
Sheesh!
Posted by: Diogenes

Yes. You get a mental image of me cavorting naked through a sea of chocolate. Your welcome.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 07, 2024 12:55 PM (4XwPj)

177 AP: Trump Elected, Leaves NATO; Russia Nukes Paris
Posted by: ZOD

A shame about the artwork
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 07, 2024 12:54 PM (Ydd86

Russia can march down the Champs-Élysées again, rename Pont Alexandre III into Pont Putin I....

Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 12:56 PM (9pFgx)

178 France doesnt posr a threat to any one except their own citizens we protected them with nato and what did we get for that vietnam there wss on good french spy the one referred in topaz they gavd shelter to the ayatollah any one

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at September 07, 2024 12:57 PM (PXvVL)

179 I would like for Trump to put up slides of those nanotechnology particles they found in the mRNA vaccine. And he could say " they lied to you and to me. No one knew there were things like this in their vaccine. They need to be held accountable".
Posted by: Notsothoreau

/// insert screen shot of classic 'space invaders' game ////

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 07, 2024 12:58 PM (/lPRQ)

180 > It is truly disgusting how amoral and corrupt the entire Bush organization and administration have proved to be.
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Probably one of the primary reasons they were foisted upon us. The 'powers that be' are truly a bunch of shit heads.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2024 12:58 PM (Q4IgG)

181 Tom McGraw is a big leftie. Loved him some Obama.

Fuck that guy.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 12:59 PM (7i/Qe)

182 Sadly, no they won't. The majority will just keep their heads down and go about their little lives, hoping they aren't noticed. Covid was a real eye opener as to the behavior of the average person in meat space. The last 40 or 50 years of indoctrination has produced a very compliant population.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy
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Most of the public acts on the fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me principle. Simply put, compliance flatlined by most after it was revealed that Covid was not the Andromeda Strain that the media and gubmints built it up to be.

Note the continuing efforts by the public health complex to scare teh shit out of everyone each season with Covid and fewer and fewer people masking up, getting boosters, etc. Recently they have tried with bird flu and people have yawned.

Most people with half a brain are not getting the boosters, not masking up, and even locales have abandoned the idiotic six foot rule etc.

The public health people shit in their own nest here and as a result, lots of people are simply avoiding any and all new vaccinations including the annual flu ones. Whether that is for the best or worst, remains to be seen.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:59 PM (kW+z9)

183 >>Russia can march down the Champs-Élysées again, rename Pont Alexandre III into Pont Putin I....
Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 12:56 PM (9pFgx)

AP: Russia Conquers Finland, Arrests Pro-Ukraine Former PM Sanna Marin.

AP: Russia Sells Marin To Zod.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 01:00 PM (P+D4R)

184 Boker Tov Patriots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 07, 2024 01:00 PM (SHAib)

185 NY Post notes animal sacrifice has a startling increase in NYC. Can’t imagine what would be behind this!

Posted by: Piper at September 07, 2024 01:01 PM (QzINz)

186 NGU, Good day to you, sir.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 07, 2024 01:01 PM (G3Ji7)

187 The last 40 or 50 years of indoctrination has produced a very compliant population.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy

The evidence of this was truly astounding.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at September 07, 2024 01:04 PM (g8Ew8)

188 They are out of ideas, aren't they?

Item: The Democrats big brain plan this weekend is to fly banners over several college football games.

That's right up there with chalk drawing on sidewalks.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 07, 2024 01:05 PM (QfHvI)

189 NY Post notes animal sacrifice has a startling increase in NYC. Can’t imagine what would be behind this!
Posted by: Piper at September 07, 2024 01:01 PM (QzINz)

White supremacism and global warming. Obviously.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:06 PM (7i/Qe)

190 He thinks the State Department and other agencies have a responsibility to explain to voters that if they choose populist presidents, those populist presidents may risk international agreements. As if the Deep State would ever be this frank with voters!

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The opposite of a populist is an elitist. The opposite of nationalism is globalism. They keep trying to scare us away from candidates by calling them these things but their alternatives are way worse.

The least nationalist, least populist government you will see depicted in books and movies is the one from Hunger Games.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 07, 2024 01:06 PM (zzdrL)

191 185 NY Post notes animal sacrifice has a startling increase in NYC. Can’t imagine what would be behind this!
Posted by: Piper at September 07, 2024 01:01 PM (QzINz)

Does it start with "H" and end in "i"? And no, judges do not come from there.

Posted by: sal at September 07, 2024 01:06 PM (bx3Km)

192 they are excellent backer board for target mounting and take a lot of hits without leaving trash

People, please: after the election! And if you can't wait, at least be sure of your target and what's beyond. I don't care what the other guy said, it is not OK to shoot through your neighbors' yard signs with the rest of the block as berm. There could be Republicans out there! Nopties! Undecideds! Moderates!

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at September 07, 2024 01:07 PM (zdLoL)

193 Bill Clinton: Oral Office
Kamala Harris: Oral Office

Same wine, different bottle.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 01:08 PM (P+D4R)

194 This is for the most part, true, but as we see at the Trump rallies, Americans are hungry for leadership. Calm effective leaders could create a groundswell of peaceful civil disobedience that could be very effective.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 07, 2024 12:51 PM (W/lyH)

We saw it at the 2020 rallies. Huge crowds lines miles long, enthusiasm at it's peak. Then, Nov came. And we all witnessed the steal in real time. The left is relentless. They never sleep, they never stop. I pray I am wrong, but they will stop at nothing to win. We saw it at Butler, PA. I've lived through 14 presidents, and I have never witnessed so much hatred for one man.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at September 07, 2024 01:09 PM (iODuv)

195 >>>The public health people shit in their own nest here and as a result, lots of people are simply avoiding any and all new vaccinations including the annual flu ones. Whether that is for the best or worst, remains to be seen.
Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:59 PM (kW+z9)
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Roger that. I’m scheduled for my annual physical. They send me a list of vaccinations I haven’t had and are suggested for me. Not taking any of them, I’ll take my chances without.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at September 07, 2024 01:09 PM (yM17g)

196 Lots of Central and South American cultural traditions involve animal sacrifices.

Just sayin'.

Ask ZOD... he knows.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2024 01:09 PM (Q4IgG)

197 France - guide to our future? Macron has selected a new PM from the 4th place party, who only has at most 30% support in their parliament. But he’s counting on the left and right to hate each other so much that they’ll never agree what to do about it. Macron is counting on the Parliament being completely neutralized, allowing him and his bureaucracy to rule by decree.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 07, 2024 01:10 PM (fIpti)

198 Roger that. I’m scheduled for my annual physical. They send me a list of vaccinations I haven’t had and are suggested for me. Not taking any of them, I’ll take my chances without.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at September 07, 2024 01:09 PM (yM17g)

Last year my FP actually advised me not to get a flu shot, even though I'm a good bit over 29.

Posted by: sal at September 07, 2024 01:13 PM (bx3Km)

199 196 Lots of Central and South American cultural traditions involve animal sacrifices.

Just sayin'.

Ask ZOD... he knows.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2024 01:09 PM (Q4IgG
Humans, too. Probably coming back.

Posted by: Eromero at September 07, 2024 01:13 PM (o2ZRX)

200 The public health people shit in their own nest here and as a result, lots of people are simply avoiding any and all new vaccinations including the annual flu ones. Whether that is for the best or worst, remains to be seen.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 12:59 PM (kW+z9)
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I know that I'm not taking another mass-prescribed shot.

Posted by: Zombie Bob Dole at September 07, 2024 01:14 PM (krQz2)

201 Which zod the terence stamp or michael sheehan

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at September 07, 2024 01:14 PM (PXvVL)

202 Keep in mind who took bigly big credit for the clot shot. It wasn’t Democrats.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:15 PM (7i/Qe)

203 WaPo, of all places, has an article today describing the devastation on a small Massachusetts town (pop: 11,500) of the state converting a minimum security jail to migrant housing and then moving 740 illegals previously living in Logan terminals into the town. Today's Globe has an Op-Ed saying "Greg Abbott might have been right".

Weird.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 01:15 PM (yEuRi)

204 197 France - guide to our future? Macron has selected a new PM from the 4th place party, who only has at most 30% support in their parliament. But he’s counting on the left and right to hate each other so much that they’ll never agree what to do about it. Macron is counting on the Parliament being completely neutralized, allowing him and his bureaucracy to rule by decree.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Good way to get a Romanian Christmas. People that think they are clever, by using douchebaggery like that as a way of life ,usually get their ass handed to them sooner or later.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:16 PM (kW+z9)

205 Keep in mind who took bigly big credit for the clot shot. It wasn’t Democrats.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:15 PM (7i/Qe)
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They just insisted that they weren't going to take "Trump's vaccine", until they won and forced the exact same substance on as many people as they could.

Where can I sign up to VOTE for THAT?!

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:16 PM (krQz2)

206 >>> 188 They are out of ideas, aren't they?

Item: The Democrats big brain plan this weekend is to fly banners over several college football games.

That's right up there with chalk drawing on sidewalks.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 07, 2024 01:05 PM (QfHvI)

It would be awesome if this inspired chants of "Let's Go Brandon".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 07, 2024 01:18 PM (FnneF)

207 81 Musk. Director of public accountability.

Look, Elon Musk has a big enough job ahead of him, revolutionizing civilization!

OTOH, if you have a job that abso-fucking-purely has to get done, ask a busy man.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at September 07, 2024 01:19 PM (gfztU)

208 Note that: The Democrats insisted they have right to resist what "Donald Trump wanted to put into their body", and then because they decided it was theirs, told you you couldn't and you were a grandma-killer and an enemy of the people if you thought what they were telling you just months before!

Again: Where can I sign up to VOTE for that kind of arrogance and duplicity?!

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:19 PM (krQz2)

209 202 Keep in mind who took bigly big credit for the clot shot. It wasn’t Democrats.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry

Dems made it mandatory and throughout the health care system. That doesn't help them. Someone like Gavin Newsom and Whitmer look even worse due to their extraneous douchebaggery by pissing on the little people with their actions.

Covid response was and is DJT's biggest achilles tendon but the evil mandatory actions by the Dems throughout the Biden and blue state actions made it impossible to use it against him without fragging themselves.

Walz had police shooting people on their porches in MN for example for breaking curfew while allowing BLM to loot, plunder and riot without a hindrance.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:20 PM (kW+z9)

210 >>201 Which zod the terence stamp or Michael sheehan Posted by: Miguel cervantes at September 07, 2024 01:14 PM (PXvVL)

ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at September 07, 2024 01:20 PM (P+D4R)

211 The Left censors because they don't have facts.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm Phone at September 07, 2024 01:21 PM (CHHv1)

212 Again: Where can I sign up to VOTE for that kind of arrogance and duplicity?!
Posted by: Axeman
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Reliance on short term thinking is usually a recipe for long run disaster.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:21 PM (kW+z9)

213 Ultimately, the degree of "Freedom of Speech" that you have depends on the lack of consequence applied to speech.

As Judge Bork pointed out private coercion isn't "freedom" either.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:21 PM (krQz2)

214 Walz had police shooting people on their porches in MN for example for breaking curfew while allowing BLM to loot, plunder and riot without a hindrance.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:20 PM (kW+z9)
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That both clauses in that sentence are true ought to settle an election right there.

It won't though.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:24 PM (krQz2)

215 Obviously Dems were and are fascist fucks when it comes to the clot shot. Just saying it was Trump who created it and took credit for it. Tht seems to be forgotten.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:24 PM (7i/Qe)

216 Kim Strassel (WSJ) asks "Which is likelier to influence an election, foreign operatives or federal prosecutors?"

I am always suspicious when people ask setup questions with obvious answers. Can it really be true her audience needs to be gently prodded to think for themselves?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 01:25 PM (qCXOJ)

217 213 Ultimately, the degree of "Freedom of Speech" that you have depends on the lack of consequence applied to speech.

As Judge Bork pointed out private coercion isn't "freedom" either.
Posted by: Axeman
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Bork should know. His own research and public speeches were distorted by Dems in the Senate to defeat his nomination. To much public acclaim at the time.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:26 PM (kW+z9)

218 Obviously Dems were and are fascist fucks when it comes to the clot shot. Just saying it was Trump who created it and took credit for it. Tht seems to be forgotten.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:24 PM (7i/Qe)
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I don't think that is "forgotten" as much as it is way, way balanced out.

I really wish that RFKJ and Shanahan had gotten one of the chief terms of their agreement: That Donald Trump finally denounce the vaccines.

It's not *forgotten*. Just way, way offset.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:26 PM (krQz2)

219 I am always suspicious when people ask setup questions with obvious answers. Can it really be true her audience needs to be gently prodded to think for themselves?
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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The WSJ is read mainly by corporate types now that have been educated into leftism via the colleges. The news desk there was just as left as the NYT, it was only the opinion section that branded WSJ as on the right. Once Murdoch took over the paper, he ended that and like Newscorp properties in general has moved steadily to the left.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:28 PM (kW+z9)

220 >>> 218 Obviously Dems were and are fascist fucks when it comes to the clot shot. Just saying it was Trump who created it and took credit for it. Tht seems to be forgotten.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:24 PM (7i/Qe)
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I don't think that is "forgotten" as much as it is way, way balanced out.

I really wish that RFKJ and Shanahan had gotten one of the chief terms of their agreement: That Donald Trump finally denounce the vaccines.

It's not *forgotten*. Just way, way offset.
Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:26 PM (krQz2)

This. Also, Trump did not *create* the vaccines that he bragged about. I *would* like to see him say something about trusting the so-called EXPERTS!!! and changing his mind.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 07, 2024 01:28 PM (FnneF)

221 Bork should know. His own research and public speeches were distorted by Dems in the Senate to defeat his nomination. To much public acclaim at the time.
Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:26 PM (kW+z9)
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He showed a line chart with a u-shaped curve. Extreme private coercion (e.g. crime) is not freedom and extreme public coercion is not freedom.

Liberty is maximized where the Private and the Public coercion are in balance, like the Public coercion against private individuals against undue coercion.

It's a balance not a pole.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:30 PM (krQz2)

222 202 Keep in mind who took bigly big credit for the clot shot. It wasn’t Democrats.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:15 PM (7i/Qe)

I remember Democrats taking credit for the vaccine after they stopped preventing its availability until after the election, claiming that the rollout that Trump put in place didn't exist and they had to start from scratch and chaos, claiming credit for the successes of the rollout even though the successes were due to Trump's preparations, ... , etc., ... Shall I go on?

Not that I'm pleased with the vaccine. But I can see how Trump, wanting to rescue Americans who were being held hostage to the virus, would do anything in his power to come up with a solution. An effective vaccine is a reasonable response, if such a thing exists.

Posted by: Emmie at September 07, 2024 01:30 PM (Sf2cq)

223 Yeah Trump wasn’t in the lab creating the vaccines. But he was the guy at the top who gave the orders to create it. He created it in that sense. Just like Biden himself didnt fire people for refusing the shot. He was the guy who gave the order.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:31 PM (7i/Qe)

224 That both clauses in that sentence are true ought to settle an election right there.

It won't though.
Posted by: Axeman
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The media is now an open propaganda wing of the DNC. Their main power is censorship that prevents any unapproved 'news' from being heard and amplified lest it upset the masses.

Like book publishers, the media conglomerates need to be disassembled back into localized parts instead of massive blobs. Contrary to economic theory, monopolies and oligopolies are almost never to the benefit of people. Concentrated economic or political power is always most concerned with keeping that power going--not the common weal.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:32 PM (kW+z9)

225 I have more Medals and Ribbons then Idi Amin from serving in WW1, WW2, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Kuwait, and Afghanistan.............

Posted by: Tim Walz at September 07, 2024 01:34 PM (hbjSA)

226 Had the vax come out in July 2020 Trump would have been a hero to the right and would have won the election in a blowout. The pharmaceuticals purposely held it until after the election. IIRc it was announced a week after.

And then everyone flipped. Trump supporters said the vax was poison and Dems said it was a miracle cure. 3 nanoseconds before believing the exact opposite.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:34 PM (7i/Qe)

227 Covid shot should have been voluntary. Want it - take it. Don't want it - don't take it. Harris and Biden made it mandatory.

Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 01:34 PM (9pFgx)

228 GARDEN NOOD IS BLOOMING

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 01:34 PM (fwDg9)

229 bunch of fascists

Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 01:34 PM (9pFgx)

230 And if not going upstairs you don't have to run away

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 01:35 PM (fwDg9)

231 He showed a line chart with a u-shaped curve. Extreme private coercion (e.g. crime) is not freedom and extreme public coercion is not freedom.

Liberty is maximized where the Private and the Public coercion are in balance, like the Public coercion against private individuals against undue coercion.

It's a balance not a pole.
Posted by: Axeman
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That goes back to DeTocqueville and his critique of the US society related to European ones at the time. Elected democracies end up requiring the standing nail to be hammered down and in the worst cases, the public and private coercion are merged against iconoclasts as we see today.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:35 PM (kW+z9)

232 During the first six to nine months of COVID, I relied on the Johns Hopkins website, thinking it would factual, without the hysteria.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 07, 2024 01:36 PM (wBaIH)

233 Dems "believe" that "democracy is on the ballot" this November.

And I believe the republic is.

Part of the time the Dems don't spend telling us that our insisting on the term "constitutional republic" is needless pedantry and means the "same thing" as "democracy", is spent like the New York Times recent article telling us how our *particular* Constitution gets in the way of "democracy".

Constitutions are particular. A "constitutional republic" is an elective form of government in support of a particular statement of the constitution of government. If a certain republic has a particular constitution that "restricts democracy", then you're basically arguing they are NOT "synonyms".

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:38 PM (krQz2)

234 Tulsi Gabbard says SCOTUS is the man target of Deep State, right after the Trump threat is ended. "Reform", she says, is a synonym for ending Constitutional order.

They own the Propaganda Press and Congressional leadership. The goal is to stop third parties or Trump-like candidates with independent ideas from gaining traction, and to stop independent media (podcasts, blogs etc) from being heard.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 01:40 PM (vXSys)

235 Posted by: Axeman
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I agree.

Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:40 PM (kW+z9)

236 “When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles.”
― Frank Herbert, Children of Dune

This is Leftism in a nutshell.

Posted by: Blast Hardcheese at September 07, 2024 01:41 PM (PWI4f)

237 Obviously Dems were and are fascist fucks when it comes to the clot shot. Just saying it was Trump who created it and took credit for it. Tht seems to be forgotten.
Posted by: Write it off Jerry

Mao did not invent the gun nor take credit for it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 07, 2024 01:42 PM (/lPRQ)

238 That goes back to DeTocqueville and his critique of the US society related to European ones at the time. Elected democracies end up requiring the standing nail to be hammered down and in the worst cases, the public and private coercion are merged against iconoclasts as we see today.
Posted by: whig at September 07, 2024 01:35 PM (kW+z9)
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Which is why it was never a good argument--and a disingenuous one considering the source--that it's only ALL the social media companies suppressing your speech and they're private organizations.

Well, that just means that "free speech" is not the value we pretend it to be. Because a society that valued the free flow of ideas and healthy debate would not let all the fora be sold to a single individual or set of gate-keepers.

Sure you have "freedom of the press", but "right-wing pamphlets" cost x1000 to print on any press, because they feel that is "responsible".

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:43 PM (krQz2)

239 166 They used nanoparticles for Zika, and that N1H1 flu business, way back in 2015. But , you know, it could be Borg.
Posted by: runner, at September 07, 2024 12:51 PM (9pFgx)

Hmmmm. IIRC, both of those vaccines had to be withdrawn due to high rates of adverse events.

Posted by: Emmie at September 07, 2024 01:43 PM (Sf2cq)

240 Liz wants to get paid now that she has no power.

She has no real value to the Deep State though. Even the usual suspect paid DNC shills on X were unenthusiastic about her endorsement.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 07, 2024 01:43 PM (aQ0OP)

241 I think the covid op was a compliance op perpetrated on the public. The junta wanted to gauge what the public's response would be to mandated behavior changes. There could be several reasons for that, but I think it was primarily for controlling movement. To me, that was the biggest cultural change during covid... the lack of movement.

I'm sure there are other possibilities. But the empty freeways I was on at the time were surreal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 07, 2024 01:44 PM (Q4IgG)

242 Texas is putting the beat down on Michigan.

24-3 at the turn.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 01:44 PM (aD39U)

243 Texas is putting the beat down on Michigan.

24-3 at the turn.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 01:44 PM (aD39U)
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Not enough pre-game surveillance, perhaps.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:45 PM (krQz2)

244 232 During the first six to nine months of COVID, I relied on the Johns Hopkins website, thinking it would factual, without the hysteria.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at September 07, 2024 01:36 PM (wBaIH)

They had a handy risk calculator. According to that, I was three times more likely to get hit by lightning than to die of Covid. So I compared that to the death risk for the shot and determined the shot was approximately 4,000 times more dangerous for me than Covid was. For my husband, the shot was about 2,000 times more dangerous.

Posted by: Emmie at September 07, 2024 01:47 PM (Sf2cq)

245 Texas is putting the beat down on Michigan.

24-3 at the turn.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 01:44 PM (aD39U)
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Ohio State cheers. Quinn Ewers kicking Michigan around is the next best thing to the real game.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 01:48 PM (pewBZ)

246 Yeah Trump wasn’t in the lab creating the vaccines. But he was the guy at the top who gave the orders to create it. He created it in that sense. Just like Biden himself didnt fire people for refusing the shot. He was the guy who gave the order.

Posted by: Write it off Jerry at September 07, 2024 01:31 PM (7i/Qe)
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Which again illustrates that the main thing Trump did was supply that thing which experts had started to say was a necessity to "opening the country back up". I thing that's still part of why Trump lauds how fast he was able to deliver this "vaccine" which was increasingly mentioned as a mandatory condition of opening back up.

And yeah, that does expose that if it takes at least 2-3 years to develop a vaccine. The Dems were willing to not open up for another 2-3 years.

I remember things. Especially rhetoric somebody wants me to take to heart. "Until we get a vaccine" was a thing.

Thus, Trump supplied that condition in record time because he knew the economy couldn't take 2-3 years more lockdown.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:52 PM (krQz2)

247 234 Tulsi Gabbard says SCOTUS is the man target of Deep State, right after the Trump threat is ended. "Reform", she says, is a synonym for ending Constitutional order.

They own the Propaganda Press and Congressional leadership. The goal is to stop third parties or Trump-like candidates with independent ideas from gaining traction, and to stop independent media (podcasts, blogs etc) from being heard.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 01:40 PM (vXSys)

Agreed. Pack SCOTUS to, once and for all, erase 2A. But allow us to have muskets. Then they will "fix" the First and Fourth as well

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at September 07, 2024 01:54 PM (7te1w)

248 Arkansas up 21-7 over #16 Oregon State at the half.

I smell upset.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 01:54 PM (4c1Od)

249 I see the Supreme Court as a big target of the Marxists, even supposed conservatives will go their way so 1 or 2 more verified Marxists seated we could be doomed. They alone could sink the 2nd Amendment for instance with a ruling on carbines

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 01:55 PM (fwDg9)

250 What we needed, during Covid, was the free exchange of ideas. They would not allow information about actual studies to be publicized if it showed other medications were effective. We weren't allowed to question why there weren't millions of deaths in Africa or deaths among the homeless. We should have discussed the Swedish experiment. We totally threw science and medicine out the window.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 01:55 PM (MpVUb)

251 24-3 at the turn.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 01:44 PM (aD39U)
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I think that is about the deficit that Michigan State had U-M at before they yanked Drew Henson and put in Tom Brady.

That was the first time I ever saw Tom Brady and the hate/admiration was immediate.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 01:56 PM (krQz2)

252 I have Arkansas going 0 for 8 in the SEC this year.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 01:56 PM (4c1Od)

253 They made the vaccine in record time because they had been working on it for other coronaviruses.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 01:57 PM (MpVUb)

254 I see the Supreme Court as a big target of the Marxists, even supposed conservatives will go their way so 1 or 2 more verified Marxists seated we could be doomed. They alone could sink the 2nd Amendment for instance with a ruling on carbines
Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 01:55 PM (fwDg9)
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It's hard to tell which is the bigger target: the EC or the Court.

The EC is *embedded* into the Constitution. It would be hard to argue that you don't need an amendment, and even harder to argue that it is in some bizarre way "unconstitutional", since it is one of those things almost completely laid out in the Constitution.

The Court is more reachable because as the Federalists even indicate the Supreme Court was one of the last ideas. And was mainly meant so that Congress would not have the power of Parliament to change "what they meant" in the laws already passed.

So, I do think that the Court is the avenue to argue that the EC is "unconstitutional"--or at that point they may even argue that the discretion to rule things "unconstitutional" is only part of their broad powers of review. So, they can pass a bad review of the EC and have it be done.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:00 PM (krQz2)

255 They made the vaccine in record time because they had been working on it for other coronaviruses.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 01:57 PM (MpVUb)
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Agreed. But that allowed Trump to deliver the "condition of opening" that much sooner. In fact, that motivation makes it almost an asset that it was promoted as "The Vaccine", rather than "treatment for Covid" because the latter could have been argued to not actually be a vaccine and so states could "use their discretion" and continue lockdown. Especially if aided by a Trump-hating Congress (DC).

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:03 PM (krQz2)

256 One big difference between Trump 2016 and Trump 2024 is that the earlier Trump was maybe aa little surprised to win, and unprepared to hire non-establishment and like-minded people.

This time he expects to win and he is already deep in planning a detailed, (hopefully) fully staffed, plan of administration.

I doubt someone like Mengele-Fauci could get the 2024 Trump to agree to his crazy shit proposals as readily as the 2019 Trump.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:04 PM (pewBZ)

257 I doubt someone like Mengele-Fauci could get the 2024 Trump to agree to his crazy shit proposals as readily as the 2019 Trump.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:04 PM (pewBZ)
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But, the other case is that DC could consider Trump the lamest duck ever and hold out for ~ 4 years, which means under-staffing or more newbies which would also increase the likelihood of opposition in the administration.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:07 PM (krQz2)

258 But, the other case is that DC could consider Trump the lamest duck ever and hold out for ~ 4 years, which means under-staffing or more newbies which would also increase the likelihood of opposition in the administration.
Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:07 PM (krQz2)
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This is true. For this reason, winning the House AND the Senate is important. Bu, also, that's probably one reason PDJT chose Vance as his VP; that is, Vance represents a hope Trump can seed the future of the party with his ideas, in the person of like-minded guy who is tough enough to keep fighting.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:11 PM (pewBZ)

259 RFK Jr has said he is on the transition team. I think we will see libertarians and independents in positions this time around. And if they won't let him fill positions, they can be eliminated.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 02:12 PM (MpVUb)

260 Oklahoma State not Oregon State

Excuse the thinko.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 07, 2024 02:14 PM (4c1Od)

261 , that's probably one reason PDJT chose Vance as his VP; that is, Vance represents a hope Trump can seed the future of the party with his ideas, in the person of like-minded guy who is tough enough to keep fighting.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:11 PM (pewBZ)
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I also see it as an attempt to pass the torch. With Pence, Trump saw somebody who could help integrate him into the base, perhaps. Some Midwest traditionalism to offset his urbanism and Democrat past.

He's all done with that and wants to pick a fighter, with no thought to the traditional GOP.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:15 PM (krQz2)

262 Tulsi Gabbard: "It is amazing how quickly the Press has shut down all discussion of the Trump assassination attempt"

The power of the Propaganda Press in league with Big Tech is truly, as she says, amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:16 PM (pewBZ)

263 He's all done with that and wants to pick a fighter, with no thought to the traditional GOP.
Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:15 PM (krQz2)
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And, as effective as DeSantis has been as governor, I don't see him in this role. He is more a product of conventional politics, even if he is Trump-supporting now. Vance, on the other hand, has a totally independent history.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:19 PM (pewBZ)

264 Ughhh...our neighbours are gone until tomorrow. I've been feeding their outdoor cats.

One of them, my favorite, Trumpy, showed up at the porch at 3am. Hadn't seen him in days. But has a horrible limp. Back leg, barely using it.

He's been resting in here since 3am. Didn't move until almost 11am. Ate a little, drank a bit. His sister.....and maybe lover, came over....no reaction. I put him out to go pee, and he was limping across the street.

Hell no, Grabbed him. Brought him back in the house. He's resting while I have beer.

I've never been a cat person before these. As an outdoor cat, will he just pee and crap wherever? I'll try to go with him outside. The neighbour just said out him out, but he's really limping. I'm fine with taking care of dude.

Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 02:23 PM (jvJvP)

265 Tulsi Gabbard: "It is amazing how quickly the Press has shut down all discussion of the Trump assassination attempt"

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:16 PM (pewBZ)
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Been remarking on that for months now.

Still takes a moment to stop and take it all in again.

Seems that the left does a lot more of outright saying they hate Trump than most people on the "right" do hating anybody in anything called "hatespeech".

I agree. As a Christian, I agree. Hate's bad. Now examine why you spend your time hating this one man so much.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:27 PM (krQz2)

266 Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 02:23 PM (jvJvP)
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Since you're stateless, have you passed your statelessness on to the cat?

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:29 PM (krQz2)

267 Since you're stateless, have you passed your statelessness on to the cat?

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:2

A little. His Mom and Aunt were indoor cats until they kept clawing screens and escaping the house.

Trumpy is an outdoor cat but very social. Incredibly sweet.

Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 02:32 PM (jvJvP)

268 Very happy to report the Bernie Moreno-Sherrod Brown race is now within the MOE, according to the Hill.

That's tremendous.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 07, 2024 02:36 PM (pewBZ)

269
I've never been a cat person before these. As an outdoor cat, will he just pee and crap wherever? I'll try to go with him outside. The neighbour just said out him out, but he's really limping. I'm fine with taking care of dude.
Posted by: Stateless
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If your vicinity has an emergency Vet, take him there. It will be pricy, but the peace of mind will be worth it. I imagine that your neighbors would compensate. Just do it.

Just my two cents...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2024 02:38 PM (XeU6L)

270 He needs a cat box. Some dirt in a container will be enough.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 02:39 PM (MpVUb)

271 String theory has sucked up all the funding, and "they" trash anyone not on their team? Or something like that was my take on Eric.

idk, but I can see that with Covid, and Global Warming, and manufactured Fear and Loathing of Trump.

Eric seems to think there is (perhaps?) a lot of globalist leaders holding the world together with backroom bargaining, but we can't know about it ... too dangerous for the commoners to have such secret knowledge?

I guess that is possible, but most of their murderous actions seem mostly about control over us, and all the graft. Not just small time political graft, but all the companies and certain favorites collecting/extracting billions or trillions from our (and other) nations.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2024 02:41 PM (Cus5s)

272 If your vicinity has an emergency Vet, take him there. It will be pricy, but the peace of mind will be worth it. I imagine that your neighbors would compensate. Just do it.

Just my two cents...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 07, 2024 02:38 PM (XeU6L)

Thanks.

For a bunch of reasons, that's not really an option. We're in the boonies.

He's been doing fine, just resting and he wasn't screaming when he was outside. And he's a young thing, about a year old. I just petted him. No blood. He let me touch the leg gently...no reaction.

I'll do my best with him tonight, keep him comfortable. They'll be home tomorrow. I'll try to play nurse tonight....nurse with beer...but still nurse.

Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 02:48 PM (jvJvP)

273 270 He needs a cat box. Some dirt in a container will be enough.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 02:39 PM (MpVUb

Thanks.

Trumpy is the best.

Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 02:50 PM (jvJvP)

274 Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2024 02:41 PM (Cus5s)
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I think that as Science research has suffered market forces for funding, what used to be about Science literacy has become Science fidelity.

Think of all the science funding we are doing right now that will never even equal the benefit of a toaster. "Pure Science" says out front that it is a "nice-to-have".

I think a pragmatic adjustment away from an ideology of Science is called for.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:51 PM (krQz2)

275 Rules Based International Order = Our Democracy

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 07, 2024 02:51 PM (RIvkX)

276 He needs a cat box. Some dirt in a container will be enough.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 02:39 PM (MpVUb
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It must be sealed with a vial of poison in it.

Posted by: Erwin Schrödinger at September 07, 2024 02:52 PM (krQz2)

277 He needs a cat box. Some dirt in a container will be enough.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 02:39 PM (MpVUb
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It must be sealed. And put a vial of poison in it.

Posted by: Erwin Schrödinger at September 07, 2024 02:52 PM (krQz2)

278 "I think a pragmatic adjustment away from an ideology of Science is called for."

yeah, Eric talks about "The Science, trademark" as opposed to real science.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2024 02:53 PM (Cus5s)

279 It must be sealed with a vial of poison in it.

Posted by: Erwin Schr�dinger at September 07, 2024 02:52 PM (krQz2)
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Pixy said you couldn't be posted!

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:53 PM (krQz2)

280 What we needed, during Covid, was the free exchange of ideas. They would not allow information about actual studies to be publicized if it showed other medications were effective. We weren't allowed to question why there weren't millions of deaths in Africa or deaths among the homeless. We should have discussed the Swedish experiment. We totally threw science and medicine out the window.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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To answer "Who is this WE?", and really drill down into it, "We' could be the collective population, the democratic majority, the republican representatives, but it is the deepstate uniparty that is in charge in 2020 and now.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 07, 2024 02:54 PM (/lPRQ)

281 yeah, Eric talks about "The Science, trademark" as opposed to real science.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 07, 2024 02:53 PM (Cus5s)
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I think however, that it is because of the ideology of Science-first that through market forces drives the call to fidelity to a certain, approved Science™.

Clearly, there is no clear limit on the field of inquiry. We uncover more questions every time we "solve" one.

However, there are limited funds to inquire.

Triage must be done. But myself and Science™ probably have different ideas on what and where to cut.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 02:57 PM (krQz2)

282 I think that as Science research has suffered market forces for funding, what used to be about Science literacy has become Science fidelity.

Think of all the science funding we are doing right now that will never even equal the benefit of a toaster. "Pure Science" says out front that it is a "nice-to-have".

I think a pragmatic adjustment away from an ideology of Science is called for.
Posted by: Axeman

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This.

Eric Weinstein discussed it not too long ago, but we've been stagnant for 50 years, with actual science pushed out of Science because it's disruptive (you know, science).

And because of that we've had no real advancements except for making computers and communications devices smaller and faster. The really neat part is realizing that all the advancements have been made in systems to spy on us. Oh well, probably nothing.

But there has been no real advancement or new tech in 50+ years, only refinement.

Take the screens out of a home and - setting aside interior design, furniture, and paint choices - see if can figure out how it's not a home from the '70s.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 07, 2024 02:58 PM (4C8b/)

283 We need to make viruses more dangerous to protect you from viruses.
We need to suppress dissident scientists to preserve science.

We need to suppress free speech to preserve democracy.
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Genius Mayor Gavin Newsom literally said the streets would be cleaner by reducing street cleaning from weekly to bi-weekly.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 07, 2024 02:58 PM (RIvkX)

284 But there has been no real advancement or new tech in 50+ years, only refinement.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 07, 2024 02:58 PM (4C8b/)
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And a whole lot of bogus and non-repeatable "Science" (so, in essence not Science) in addition.

Unfortunately, it seems everywhere that 80-90% of everything is shit. And maybe not even the institution of Science can escape that Human gravity.

But market products are testable technology. The amount of EC battery explosions is enough to cause people to consider whether it's worth the risk individually or as a whole.

If the additives to make any paint color cause the paint to chip and peel in a couple of months to a year, that paint will be off the market in about double the time.

Thus the market assesses whether or not this is really an improvement in living and whether it's a cute idea that needs some development.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 03:04 PM (krQz2)

285 We need to make viruses more dangerous to protect you from viruses.
We need to suppress dissident scientists to preserve science.
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The case that I know could even be more bizarre. Apparently in mid-2019 there were a bunch of these guys discussing what would be needed to "update" our immunization processes. They considered that killed virus, the vaccine that may have actually worked in the past, was "archaic".

They considered that their needed to be some change to force us into "the future" of mRNA vaccines.

Again this is Summer 2019. There is recorded video you can still find online about this.

It may well be that Covid-19 was THE THING that would thrust us forward to "modern" vaccines. And was the cost of this.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 03:08 PM (krQz2)

286 I bet a few hopes were dashed of 1/4 of humanity being wiped out

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 03:09 PM (fwDg9)

287 SanFranpsycho, are you here?

Posted by: Ben Had at September 07, 2024 03:12 PM (G3Ji7)

288 Notsothoreau posted it yesterday, but Dr. Campell has a new video on youtube discussing how Korean scientists have found the MRNA injection assembling itself into nanostructures and possible/probable nanomachines inside peoples bodies.

Worth a watch.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 07, 2024 03:13 PM (4C8b/)

289 Dr Campbell, sorry. Keyboard dying.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 07, 2024 03:13 PM (4C8b/)

290 Boron Cobbie,

That's the video I linked here and yesterday.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 03:16 PM (MpVUb)

291 I bet a few hopes were dashed of 1/4 of humanity being wiped out

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 03:09 PM (fwDg9)
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I think so.

They told us at the beginning that Bill Gates had warned us.

But what was Bill Gates' TED talk about?

"The next virus that kills 10 million people or more".

And they were referring to Gates before they had the first million--and perhaps even half million official deaths.

It's curious though that Gates lumped his "immunization" efforts under "population control" in one of his speeches.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 03:16 PM (krQz2)

292 Leaving this for SanFranpsycho, something you will find very worth reading at the elderofziyon blog

Posted by: Ben Had at September 07, 2024 03:16 PM (G3Ji7)

293 Trumpy the cat will likely be okay till they get home. He probably hurt the leg, then hurt it again trying to get home.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 03:17 PM (MpVUb)

294 Trumpy the cat will likely be okay till they get home. He probably hurt the leg, then hurt it again trying to get home.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 07, 2024 03:17 PM (MpVUb)

He's been happy resting. Just moved around a bit. There's nothing horribly worrying.

Thank all of you for your help.

I do have a Trumpy photo I'll send in to the pet thread someday. Trumpy got soaked. I was walking up to him to check on him, he was walking towards me....incredibly pissed at being soaked.

Matched Trump's mugshot perfectly.?.

Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 03:22 PM (jvJvP)

295 At this point, they're going to have to convince me that Tenet is not a CIA-built Russian façade.

Like some entrapment scheme to show that the "right" is "funded by Russia". And even though it doesn't show that much, knowing that the Demedia is going to take what they have and run with it to the hills.

They couched their language in the 51+ expert statement about the Hunter Biden laptop, which a number of the signers have used to their "defense" since. See, it didn't say that the laptop WAS a Russian op, just that it had the earmarks of Russian disinformation (while actually being true).

But we know how the Demedia was able through this weasel-wording to allow Biden to claim absolutely that the laptop was a KNOWN RUSSIAN OP and Trump was "spreading disinformation".

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 03:24 PM (krQz2)

296 I do have a Trumpy photo I'll send in to the pet thread someday. Trumpy got soaked.

Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 03:22 PM (jvJvP)
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How's his combover?

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 03:26 PM (krQz2)

297 The Bible, in Daniel, Ezekiel, and especially Revelation, told us to expect a dystopian future before Jesus comes back. Think Mark of the Beast, 666, all that...

We just all hoped it would happen after we were gone...

Get right with God while you still can! Romans 10:13 says that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Posted by: setnaffa at September 07, 2024 03:29 PM (nOVGb)

298 PET NOOD IS UP

Posted by: Skip at September 07, 2024 03:31 PM (fwDg9)

299 How's his combover?

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 03:26 PM (krQz2

He was soaked. Hair all over the place.

And a pissed, pissed off look. One of my best pictures ever.

Posted by: Stateless at September 07, 2024 03:31 PM (jvJvP)

300 "Vance, on the other hand, has a totally independent history."

Oh come on.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at September 07, 2024 03:33 PM (Z8Yh2)

301 Romans 10:13 says that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.

Posted by: setnaffa at September 07, 2024 03:29 PM (nOVGb)
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That is my one and only hope.

Give the trials and tribulations of life over to God and His wisdom. And enjoy the moments left to me with my lovely wife.

Posted by: Axeman at September 07, 2024 03:37 PM (krQz2)

302 I came in late but I appreciate you linking it yesterday, Notsothoreau. I'll read the thread and see if there's anything new.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie at September 07, 2024 03:43 PM (4C8b/)

303 https://tinyurl.com/27kud9jt

Posted by: Ju at September 07, 2024 04:09 PM (aTmM/)

304 Thank you TRex for this subject and I know I'm way willowed as usual. All of your questions in the introduction apply to me! I am a collector of signed first edition books. I have a complete set of signed first edition Larry McMurtry, Michael Connelly (Harry Bosch), Elmore Leonard, Tom Clancy, Robert B. Parker (Spencer only), Lee Child (before his brother), and Frederick Forsyth books (how's that for an eclectic assortment!). I know my son will give them away or sell them for a dollar!

Posted by: Jayhawkone at September 07, 2024 05:55 PM (9rPx3)

305 Way wrong thread!! Sorry

Posted by: Jayhawkone at September 07, 2024 05:57 PM (9rPx3)

306 ***He recognizes that we don't have a president at this time.
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and Donald Trump is very dangerous but Bobby Kennedy is a complicated guy and would be good for the country because he loves it. - He just busted the discern meter and the value of any observation he makes.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 07, 2024 07:32 PM (AN+eO)

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