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California as a ridiculous oligarchy

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Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta

California as Saudi Arabia

Happy Labor Day Weekend from a part of California that's not all that "woke". Sometimes we wonder how there can be so many differences between the "woke" and "unwoke" parts of the state. Back in 2018, a U.S. News study ranked California worst in quality of life, particularly in the categories of environment and social engagement. But there are a lot of people who can still pretend that things are going great in the state, and for some people, things still ARE going pretty well! Problems in the state are not distributed equitably.

California is blessed with a lot of natural advantages which the uniparty government is busy squandering. A lot of people wonder how the state has not collapsed yet.

Back in April, NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker sent in a great summary piece by Stephen Green on just how ridiculously profligate Sacramento can be:

"I could have sworn I had another $73 billion around here somewhere," California Gov. Gavin Newsom, possibly.

$73 billion is the size of California's budget deficit this year, a deficit bigger than the annual budgets of 41 other states. It's at times like these — another is when you wake up in a location you don't recognize without your pants — that the people involved in creating the mess must ask themselves, "How the hell did that happen?"

The fact is that before finding themselves in a $73 billion hole, assemblycritters in Sacramento had so much money coming in that they barely knew how to spend it all. I'm kidding on that last point, of course. Just as quickly as California found itself with a $100 billion surplus in 2022, Newsom announced big plans on how to squander every cent of it.

And his Team was right there with him.

But what it comes down to is that Sacramento found itself with a tidy little sum and, instead of tucking it away for a rainy day, blew it all on pet projects and vote-buying. Here's that rainy day, as the song says, but the irony is that California was seeding the clouds.

Like every other state during this country's stupid, useless, and economically suicidal COVID lockdowns, California was given oodles in federal funny money to paper over the lockdown damage done. Much of that money came from Presidentish Joe Biden's inflationary American Rescue Plan Act (ARPA) of 2021.

You'll totally believe what happened to the ARPA money, as detailed by Assemblyman Joe Patterson (R-Rocklin). . .

In essence, Sacramento did spend the same money twice — it's just that they put the first half on the credit card and the other half came from their rich uncle in Washington.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you go from a $100 billion surplus to a $73 billion deficit in little more than a year. California's $173 billion turnaround from red to black is unprecedented in the histories of all 50 states.

In other words, half went on the California credit card and half went on the National credit card! YOU are the rich uncle!

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Can you think of another team that might be prone to over-spending? (Great piece. Thanks, J.J.)

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A few days ago, Stephen Green quoted Peter Thiel from a post on Battleswarm Blog:

“It’s not the way you might want to design a system from scratch, but it’s pretty stable. People have been saying Saudi Arabia is ridiculous, it’s going to collapse any year now. They’ve been saying that for 40 or 50 years. But you know, if you have a giant oil field you can pay for a lot of ridiculousness… I think that’s the way you have to think of California. There’s things about it that are ridiculous, but there’s something about it. It doesn’t naturally self-destruct overnight.”

Even if Elon Musk and some others leave and there's poop on the sidewalks of San Francisco, there's still a lot of money coming into the government in California.

Here's the video excerpt of Thiel's conversation with Joe Rogan:

Still, it's not the same as when a roommate of mine, as a child, wore a dress and little white gloves like her mother when going to "The City" of San Francisco to shop.

What are your thoughts and experiences?

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I'm not going to show any homeless squalor or tent cities.

I think Newsom's deadline for signing that bill to provide home loans to illegal immigrants is today. That should help the state's budget! And the country's banking system! Like in 2008!

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Below is one representation of an ongoing problem out here in the hinterlands, especially since they actually started trying to build the short segment of High Speed Rail that no one will want to ride if it is ever finished:

road work 8 years.jpg

And there are traffic/law enforcement problems in the big city, too:

Why can't anything be done about shoplifters and looters?

Drug stores are closing in California.

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Ace posted a piece yesterday about difficulties of retailers in the USA (especially in Blue states and cities). One was the discount store Dollar General.

There is a Dollar General not far from us. I visited once because I had paperwork for a shipping return that I needed to send from their store. I remember this visit because as I was driving into the parking lot, a press conference came on the radio concerning progress in finding suspects in a Mexican drug cartel's murder of a family further north in the Valley.

Kamala Harris was bragging the other day about taking these cartels seriously when she was attorney general (as evidence that she was tough on the border). But neither she nor Gavin Newsom seem to have set up systems to stop their depredations.

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There are some financial problems now in oil producing areas in California, too. Oil was a big income-producer at one time in California. There's a reason there are tar pits at the La Brea Tar Pits.

This pump in Signal Hill, Long Beach looks an awful lot like one that was operating year ago when I lived near there. It was still going in 2022, but I can't say if the owners have kept it up with Newsom's insanely cumbersome anti-price-gouging regulations on producers supplying gas for California consumers. I thought of Kamala Harris and her anti-price gouging proposal for groceries. The paperwork alone will raise costs!

I wondered why I had heard on the radio that a Canadian firm had bought rights to an oil field in the Bakersfield area. They might face a lot less paperwork if they shipped the oil to Canada and then, say, to China (compared to a U.S. company supplying oil here). Though Newsom and Trudeau have some sort of virtue-signaling environmental pact between California and Canada, too.

But California is less like Saudi Arabia in oil production now. So the oligarchy must be feeling pretty good about themselves.

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Sometime soon, we should discuss who is in the oligarchy.

NorCal Sierra Foothills Lurker also sent in a piece about a longer-term disaster caused by another oligarcy which took a little longer to form, and which involved parts of all of the West Coast states. Remember the Spotted Owl? She said about the small to medium-sized firms generally affected by this economic disaster:

Many in my family who worked in the logging industry were directly affected by this. Ironically the flood of imported workers from Mexico who eventually spilled into what little remained of the industry, almost entirely killed off those few jobs too. And every other industry if I’m honest. The laws changed and that’s why even today in businesses across this country, most workers are imported and the only American’s are the owners. Add to that the outsourcing of most manufacturing and it ends with the slow death of a nation. And yes I will forever be angry about it all.

Daniel Greenfield:

Thirty-five years after “save a logger, eat an owl” could be seen across the Pacific Northwest, the government environmentalists at US Fish and Wildlife want to kill half a million owls…to save the owls.

In a world of transgender surgeries, terrorist cryptocurrencies, and senile presidents, the Owl Wars that entered the 1990 presidential election seem implausible. But they cost tens of thousands of jobs, wiped out sizable amounts of the logging industry in the Pacific Northwest, and helped solidify Oregon and Washington as hipster strongholds no Republican could win.

It all started with listing the spotted owls as an endangered species. The northern spotted owls (which to non-owl fanciers look like most other owls except smaller) were listed as endangered by that noted scientist, Judge William L. Dwyer, who apart from destroying logging also helped create the Seattle Mariners which placed two crimes against humanity on his checkered soul.

But Dwyer was doing the bidding of the anti-industrial Sierra Club and decided to block timber sales in national forests to save the owls.

I immediately think, This increased fire hazards and endangered a lot of wildlife, didn't it? I also remember an anecdote about spotted owls building nests on billboards.

President George H.W. Bush in his usual squishy manner tried to split the difference. “All across the country, we have a spotted owl problem. And yes, we want to see that little furry, feathery guy protected and all of that. But I don’t want to see 40,000 loggers thrown out of work.”

Bill Clinton, who did want to see 40,000 loggers thrown out of work, won and held an owl summit in Portland on April Fool’s Day featuring Al Gore and a protest rally led by Neil Young. The result of the summit was that the millionaire hipsters and environmentalists who had funded the Clintons won and the loggers who were just trying to feed their families came out the losers.

Clinton cut 80% of logging. Timber prices rose 70% in the first years of the Clinton administration. Housing construction costs rose with it further hurting the middle class. Seattle and Portland became safe spaces for fans of Neil Young and bad music. Republicans, conservatives, and the working class were squeezed out to make way for the owls.

But a funny thing happened on the way to owl nirvana, the owls kept dying.

Environmentalists railed that the Trump administration’s expansion of forest areas where loggers could work was “heartbreaking”, “callous” and “offensive” to an “endangered species”.

But the real threat to the spotted owls wasn’t the loggers, but other owls. Environmentalists had known and lied about the fact that barred owls were expanding their territory and driving out the spotted owls. But the spotted owls provided a convenient excuse for a government power grab.

And now if the spotted owls disappear so does the excuse for government abuses of power.

That’s why US Fish and Wildlife has discussed killing the owls to save the owls. The proposal would use “trained shooters” to kill 470,000 barred owls. (And if enough of the barred owls are killed by the government, maybe they can be listed as an endangered species and protected.)

Maybe instead of hiring more government workers, we should think, on this Labor Day Weekend, about how the government can become more sustainable. "Sustainable" is a nice woke word.

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Weekend

You may want to avoid rapscallionism this weekend. But have some fun!

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Music

The Vogues "Five O'Clock World"

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, August 24, Who is protecting the environment during the presidential campaigns?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

The main topics as Friday wound down were the Democratic convention, RFK addressing the nation and the attack on an oil tanker by the Houthis.

Further developments:

The Sounion, which the Houthis said was en route to Israel, apparently did not request protection as it passed through the critical shipping lanes there, confirmed Operation Aspides, the European Union’s maritime security operation aimed at preventing Houthi threats.

One of its ships responded to the scene to help rescue the crew.

Representative Mike Waltz (R-Florida) shared video of the ship explosion on X — and called it a failure of US foreign policy.

“This is what Biden/Harris policy of appeasement towards Iran gets you… Houthi terrorists blowing 150,000 tons of crude oil into the Red sea,” Waltz said.

Blackwater founder Erik Prince called the latest attack “a clear sign of the collapse of American credibility and deterrence.”

The Sounion, which the Houthis said was en route to Israel, apparently did not request protection as it passed through the critical shipping lanes there, confirmed Operation Aspides, the European Union’s maritime security operation aimed at preventing Houthi threats.

“Letting the Iranian proxy Houthis shut off a major maritime seaway is an epic fail. America can and must do better! ” he wrote on X.

A United States defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity told the AP that American officials were aware of the fires and continued to monitor the situation.

The US Central Command (CENTCOM) said early Saturday its forces had destroyed one Houthi missile system in a Houthi-controlled area of Yemen in the past 24 hours.

“It was determined this system presented a clear and imminent threat to U.S. and coalition forces, and merchant vessels in the region,” CENTCOM said on X.

“This action was taken to protect freedom of navigation and make international waters “safer and more secure” for US, coalition, and merchant vessels,” it added.

CENTCOM said on X????

By Jim Geraghty
August 26, 2024 9:17 AM
On the menu today: I can’t begrudge everyone for paying a lot of attention to the U.S. presidential race, but there’s a lot going in the world beyond Trump’s pouting and threatening to withdraw from the remaining debate. The Houthis are reenacting the Exxon Valdez spill in the Red Sea, to the yawns of environmentalists in the West; NASA can’t get its astronauts down from the International Space Station; and the U.S. Navy is quietly putting together plans to remove the crews from 17 Navy support ships “due to a lack of qualified mariners to operate the vessels.” If you want to get a good sense of how the Democratic nominee would perform in the Oval Office, take a good look at the performance of the administration in which she’s currently vice president.

It’s an Islamist Oil Spill; That Kind of Spill Is Completely Different

Do America’s environmentalists oppose the Houthis’ blowing up oil tankers because it results in massive spills and a “severe ecological disaster,” or quietly support them because they represent attacks on the fossil-fuel industry?

It’s easy to wonder about the latter, as life stateside is full of people who will give you grief about your Big Mac, your SUV, your gas stove, and now your air conditioning. Meanwhile, these kidnapping, humanitarian-aid-obstructing, cholera-exacerbating Islamists who carried out a “partial and limited reintroduction of slavery” are reenacting the Exxon Valdez spill, and you barely hear a peep from the green crowd. It’s easy to conclude their movement is primarily focused upon hassling you, not about protecting the Earth.

Oh, and hey, look who else is benefitting from the Houthis' turning the Red Sea shipping lanes into the site of the U.S. Navy's "most intense combat since World War II":

"Freight companies operating between China and Europe are increasingly turning to rail lines that run through Russia as Houthi rebel attacks on ships travelling through the Suez Canal trigger delays and higher costs."



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1 G'moring

Posted by: Ciampino - No Ispettore, sono tutti vigliacchi #06 at August 31, 2024 11:20 AM (qfLjt)

2 They learned the accelerator befor the brake.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2024 11:20 AM (o2ZRX)

3 California, you got the rest of the union, to help you along.

What's going wrong?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:20 AM (icueJ)

4 But there are a lot of people who can still pretend that things are going great in the state, and for some people, things still ARE going pretty well! Problems in the state are not distributed equitably.

I was at a party in California with a number of rich Californians a few weeks ago. Life in California is still pretty sweet if you are worth multiple millions of dollars, and can insulate yourself from all the unpleasantness in some leafy green suburb.

They were comparing the fancy electric cars that they all drove, but did complain that in some areas it's hard to find a charging station, since so many of them have been vandalized for the scrap metal.

Oh- and they were extremely, extremely concerned that Trump might win.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 31, 2024 11:24 AM (uxCna)

5 Watch: Hollywood Icon Sylvester Stallone Reveals His Mom Tried To Abort Him Several Times

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I guess he put up a fight.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at August 31, 2024 11:25 AM (L/fGl)

6 BurtTC

Carefully put in a veto proof, one-party Communist leadership, rubber stamp assembly drones, and Commie state workers. It is a parasites dream come true. Somalia on the Pacific.

All those illegals, taking water from citizens. Exceeding the design capacity.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 31, 2024 11:26 AM (u82oZ)

7 The ARC of History!

If he does not win, they will be hurt worse and faster.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 31, 2024 11:27 AM (u82oZ)

8 There will be none of the following:

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He forgot horse play and grab assing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at August 31, 2024 11:28 AM (L/fGl)

9 One could see these state debts coming a mile away. My only surprise is the Sundowner administration hasn't bailed out the Marxists so far. Maybe they needed a bigger portion of the government before trying it.

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 11:28 AM (fwDg9)

10 They will likely lose their oil refineries (or turn the into state run-same thing). No pipelines, no refineries in nearby states and no one else uses their ridiculous blends.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 31, 2024 11:30 AM (MpVUb)

11 Rapscallionism is my new favorite word.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 31, 2024 11:31 AM (PiwSw)

12 California's $173 billion turnaround from red to black is unprecedented in the histories of all 50 states.

Either I misunderstand that sentence or it should be 'black to red'.

Posted by: Ciampino - No Ispettore, sono tutti vigliacchi 08 at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (qfLjt)

13 I have a relative who still lives in Californica, and I just don't get it. She's old enough to retire, her husband's dead, and her kids have moved away.

Two of them are still in the state, but far enough away that there's no reason to stay where she is. Sure, it's relatively untouched by the insanity of the larger cities, but still, her property is not unreasonably overpriced by Californica standards. I just don't get it.

One of her kids is in a state more than a thousand miles away, and the most important person in the world to her, her grandson, is living there.

Get out!!!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (Q70Ag)

14 : Hollywood Icon Sylvester Stallone Reveals His Mom Tried To Abort Him Several Times

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Most recently in 2018.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (991eG)

15 Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA

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So you lose a couple of astronauts in space, BFD!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (L/fGl)

16 Lollygagging. Nobody wants to be accused of that.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (o2ZRX)

17 If he does not win, they will be hurt worse and faster.

They are all worth $10 million plus - they think that they are immune to what Harris might do.

Opposition to Trump is a status signifier in those circles - it shows that you aren't one of Those People.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 31, 2024 11:34 AM (uxCna)

18 Lollygagging

Posted by: Muldoon at August 31, 2024 11:35 AM (991eG)

19 Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA

Boy, that explains a lot.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 31, 2024 11:35 AM (2ocoG)

20 Lollygagging
Posted by: Muldoon at August 31, 2024 11:35 AM (991eG)

I did NOT gag!!

Posted by: Lolly at August 31, 2024 11:36 AM (iODuv)

21 Remember, Gavin Newsome was so unpopular he was forced into a recall election but also was so wildly popular that he won his recall in a landslide bigger than his general election landslide.

Once you figure out how that could possibly happen then you will be on the road to changing California.

And also, I believe all of the trillion dollar evaluated companies are all headquartered in California.

Which explains how they get the money to paper over their insanity.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 31, 2024 11:36 AM (XV/Pl)

22 They will likely lose their oil refineries (or turn the into state run-same thing). No pipelines, no refineries in nearby states and no one else uses their ridiculous blends.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 31, 2024 11:30 AM (MpVUb)

Watch what happens when those other states turn off the water.

Oil is lovely, and it's nice to have. Water is a necessary for life.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:36 AM (Q70Ag)

23 Most recently in 2018.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (991eG)


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*snort*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2024 11:37 AM (WBQfF)

24 Lollygagging.
Posted by: Eromero

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Curse you red baron!!

*shakes tiny fists impotently*

Posted by: Muldoon at August 31, 2024 11:37 AM (991eG)

25 Hollywood Icon Sylvester Stallone Reveals His Mom Tried To Abort Him Several Times

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Most recently in 2018.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (991eG)

At least he made a nice movie, Stop or My Mom Will Abort, out of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:38 AM (Q70Ag)

26 CA is a depressing subject. Especially if you're stuck here by career and family.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2024 11:39 AM (WBQfF)

27 Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA

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So you lose a couple of astronauts in space, BFD!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (L/fGl)

I remember JFK saying "We do these things, not because they are easy, but because they perpetrate the ascendency of the White Race!"

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:39 AM (Q70Ag)

28 I've mentioned our daughter and her family fleeing California before. There's the obvious cost of living issues for a low income family that's not in the state illegally. Her and her husband have related horror stories about criminals running wild in their old neighborhood. Obviously insane people wandering around night yelling at trashcans and trying to break into homes. They've got two young kids. Not a healthy place.

So, they're here. Just closed on a new home for them. Totally, like 100% different than where they were.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 11:40 AM (Q4IgG)

29 19 Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA

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NASA is becoming less white by the day then.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2024 11:40 AM (WBQfF)

30 Lollygagging. Nobody wants to be accused of that.
Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (o2ZRX)

Isn't that why Willie Brown advanced Cummala Harris' career? For lollygagging talents?

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:41 AM (Q70Ag)

31 Thx K.T. The US response to the Houthis is virtue signaling and just doing enough to make it seem to the dummies that we are actually doing something. We've been lucky enough to shoot down the missiles and drones being fired at our Navy but sooner or later one is going to get through and damage a ship or kill or wound some of our people. And the Dems will blame Trump

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 31, 2024 11:41 AM (I+yhq)

32 From the Bee . . .

Democrats Consider Replacing Kamala Harris With More Coherent Joe Biden

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at August 31, 2024 11:42 AM (L/fGl)

33 24 Lollygagging.
Posted by: Eromero

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Curse you red baron!!

*shakes tiny fists impotently*
Posted by: Muldoon at August 31, 2024 11:37 AM (991eG
Reading Patrick O’Brian’s British Navy books, the Ships Surgeon’s assistant was called a Lob Lolly. I guess if your ‘Corpseman’ (ubama sp) gagged, he won’t no count to you when you were taking off a limb.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2024 11:42 AM (o2ZRX)

34 They are all worth $10 million plus - they think that they are immune to what Harris might do.

Opposition to Trump is a status signifier in those circles - it shows that you aren't one of Those People.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 31, 2024 11:34 AM (uxCna)

There's a monetary cutoff, that separates the elites from "those people."

I strongly suspect it's somewhere north of $10 mil, and yet people think they're on one side of the wall, when indeed they are on the other.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:43 AM (Q70Ag)

35 19 Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA

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Some bold airline exec should take the bull by the horns and promote his company as The Airline of White Supremacy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 31, 2024 11:43 AM (WBQfF)

36 I guess push comes to shove when a state literally goes bankrupt

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 11:45 AM (fwDg9)

37 For years, the California could still thrive despite the high tax, regulatory morass. But now that the revolutionary Marxists are seeking to destroy the old civilizational order in CA, I don’t know how it survives. California is no longer governed by big government leftists. It now has Pol Pot / Mao type leftists inflicting their civilizational reorg.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 31, 2024 11:45 AM (d9Cw3)

38 "inelastic" was a great word used by Peter Thiel in that Rogan interview. People want to live in California, and for good reason. They will do everything in their power to stay there, and put up with unending shenanigans to do so.

The parasites know that their California hosts will bear a much greater pest burden.

We need legitimate elections. Illegitimate elections led to illegitimate Republicans ceding power in Sacramento in that famous 'deal'.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2024 11:46 AM (lCA8w)

39 Thx K.T. The US response to the Houthis is virtue signaling and just doing enough to make it seem to the dummies that we are actually doing something. We've been lucky enough to shoot down the missiles and drones being fired at our Navy but sooner or later one is going to get through and damage a ship or kill or wound some of our people. And the Dems will blame Trump
Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 31, 2024 11:41 AM (I+yhq)

The Hooties are just mad because we funded their slaughter for a good decade or so.

Once the Hezzies start shelling Israel in earnest, and Iran starts firing things off, we'll have dead ships all over the place over there.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:47 AM (Q70Ag)

40 I'm really tired of all the owl on owl violence. They need midnight basketball.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 31, 2024 11:49 AM (xCA6C)

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So, they're here. Just closed on a new home for them. Totally, like 100% different than where they were.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

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Curious, did someone change careers? How easy was that?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 31, 2024 11:50 AM (n7rxJ)

42 So what is the deal with Trump and 'loser' veterans? Neighbor has a sign about it

Posted by: A dude in MI at August 31, 2024 11:50 AM (/6GbT)

43 16 Lollygagging. Nobody wants to be accused of that.
Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (o2ZRX)


Well you come up with a better way to make her stop talking!

Posted by: Lolly's husband at August 31, 2024 11:51 AM (PiwSw)

44 He forgot horse play and grab assing.

Tomfoolery, too.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2024 11:52 AM (fDXgc)

45 16 Lollygagging. Nobody wants to be accused of that.
Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2024 11:33 AM (o2ZRX)

Better that then being accused of being a worthless layabout

Posted by: A dude in MI at August 31, 2024 11:53 AM (/6GbT)

46 So what is the deal with Trump and 'loser' veterans? Neighbor has a sign about it
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 31, 2024 11:50 AM (/6GbT)

I know he said whatever that was about Mccain, and I think there might have been another quote attributed to him that has no basis in reality.

Not unlike the "good people on both sides" lie they tell about Charlottesville. People with fixed notions that Trump is somehow anti-Veteran is a bullshit lie for dummies and shitheads to believe in, because they dummies and shitheads.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:54 AM (Q70Ag)

47 I hate these best places to live listicles. They're always dumb. CA sucks, I know. They got that right.

But take CNBC's top ten best metro areas for middle class families... On this list are San Francisco, DC, Portland, and Denver.

They must be defining middle class as ">$5m annual income and a desire for children to be in danger."

And none of these listicles ever align with each other.

It's almost as if they're made by people trying to pump up specific real estate markets.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 31, 2024 11:58 AM (0FoWg)

48 Every EBT,SNAP and WIC card should come with a spotted owl allotment. There's your protein.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2024 11:59 AM (1k7z0)

49 So what is the deal with Trump and 'loser' veterans? Neighbor has a sign about it
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 31, 2024 11:50 AM (/6GbT)

Some deep state military guy says Trump called soldiers losers in a private meeting.

I do not believe that happened.

Posted by: Redbanzai at August 31, 2024 11:59 AM (pU81a)

50 Four families control CA.

It isn't Saudi Arabia - it is the mob running NYC before Guilani.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:00 PM (oZhjI)

51 Story on Breitbart: "The brother of Gov. Tim Walz (D-MN) revealed that Vice President Kamala Harris’s running mate is “not the type of character you want making decisions about your future.”

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The brother alludes to "stories I could tell," and says he's been torn between trying to help Trump, and whether he just wants to keep his family out of it.

There are hints and rumors of things about Walz, and I don't mind saying them out loud, but clearly others are reluctant. Walz seems to have some things in his closet, including possibly molesting students. I'm also wondering what kind of abuse his kids have suffered. Especially the boy.

Harris might be a piece of shit golddigging whore, but Walz appears to be evil incarnate.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:00 PM (j3piS)

52 48 Every EBT,SNAP and WIC card should come with a spotted owl allotment. There's your protein.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2024 11:59 AM (1k7z0
I needed that laugh.

Posted by: Eromero at August 31, 2024 12:01 PM (o2ZRX)

53 Some deep state military guy says Trump called soldiers losers in a private meeting.

It is funny how this works - Trump called soldiers losers because some leftwinger said he did, but Biden didn't molest kids even though you can see it in CSPAN videos.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:01 PM (oZhjI)

54 Harris might be a piece of shit golddigging whore, but Walz appears to be evil incarnate.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:00 PM (j3piS)


What can I say? It's a Dream Team.

Posted by: Stan at August 31, 2024 12:02 PM (PiwSw)

55 Walz seems to have some things in his closet, including possibly molesting students.

The guy is a former teacher and *obsessed* with tampons and boys. The only question is how many kids he molested not if.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:02 PM (oZhjI)

56 And none of these listicles ever align with each other.

It's almost as if they're made by people trying to pump up specific real estate markets.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 31, 2024 11:58 AM

People click on articles that contain lists.

I could give you the Top 10 reasons for that.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:03 PM (j3piS)

57 People's Hippo Voice is a prophet. He has said this was a possibility since awalz was the pick.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 31, 2024 12:04 PM (1k7z0)

58 Can you imagine telling the American founders that we have the complete ability to destroy the Houthis and all the territory they control with ease but instead we let them pirate and take pot shots at our warships?

I guess they would assume our military and political leadership were being bribed by them.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:04 PM (oZhjI)

59 > Curious, did someone change careers? How easy was that?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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So, basically, they decided that their own survival was dependent on leaving. The daughter applied for, and was accepted to a position at our local hospital. Basic stuff. She's got a bit of nursing background but this is intro level.

She came out here, by herself, about a month ago for several weeks of training. Her husband packed up their rental home during that time and dealt with the kids. The three of them came out here about a week ago. So the entire family has been living with us for that time.

The housing thing was more of an ordeal. They've got no money for a down payment, so we financed another home. We're treating it as a rental, for them. We just closed on it this morning. The financial side of things will be manageable.

But they more or less realized they were doomed if they stayed in CA.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 12:05 PM (Q4IgG)

60 Four families control CA.

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Much of the US land and population resembles late Roman Republic clientele. Vast tracts effectively owned by a handful of patrician and equine-class power players, all playing their holdings against each other and the State in a big game of pretended representative governance.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 31, 2024 12:05 PM (0FoWg)

61 Walz seems to have some things in his closet, including possibly molesting students.
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The guy is a former teacher and *obsessed* with tampons and boys. The only question is how many kids he molested not if.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:02 PM (oZhjI)

I can go with that. What I'm wondering though, because these things CAN take decades to come out, is when the former students start to disclose.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:05 PM (j3piS)

62 > I can go with that. What I'm wondering though, because these things CAN take decades to come out, is when the former students start to disclose.
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I'd bet they've been paid off to keep quiet. Or else.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 12:08 PM (Q4IgG)

63 Good morning!

You get some joy! And YOU get some joy!! And *you* get some joy! And you get some joy!!!!

Joy to the world!
All the 'rons and 'ettes!!!!
Joy to the trolls in their deep dark caves,
Joy to you and me!

Posted by: Oprah Harris at August 31, 2024 12:08 PM (a3Q+t)

64 I can go with that. What I'm wondering though, because these things CAN take decades to come out, is when the former students start to disclose.

Well, we know what the FNM would do to anyone that came forward. It would make how they treated Broaddrick and Jones look like a joke. And I expect much like the Junta threatened to kill/imprison Reade they'd do the same to anyone to come forward.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:08 PM (oZhjI)

65 Four families control CA.

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Much of the US land and population resembles late Roman Republic clientele. Vast tracts effectively owned by a handful of patrician and equine-class power players, all playing their holdings against each other and the State in a big game of pretended representative governance.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 31, 2024 12:05 PM (0FoWg)

When I saw that the other day, about the families that control the state, I was wondering about the Hollyweirds.

Where do they fit in?

Guys like David Geffen and Quincy Jones control the music industrial complex, and then you have the Harvey Weinsteins... who I believe was just a mid level manager, but I have to believe whoever controls that faction is very powerful.

Then you have the Tech boys.

I'm not sure the "4 families" is quite inclusive enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:08 PM (j3piS)

66 I like rapscallionism…. Good word. I feel like being a rapscallion today. It’s about time to plant a Trump/Vance sign in the yard for my Trump-hating neighbors. Hehe

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 31, 2024 12:09 PM (+kWhq)

67 Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA

And if you don't have that you end up like Mexico?
NASA is mainly in FL and TX. Well maybe it's a result of too many Hispanics with mañana and carefree attitudes. Central and South American countries should be vibrant, productive nations similar to the USA but instead we have 3rd world squalor and poverty, crime and disease.

Posted by: Ciampino - No Ispettore, sono tutti vigliacchi 09 at August 31, 2024 12:10 PM (qfLjt)

68 Some deep state military guy says Trump called soldiers losers in a private meeting.

I do not believe that happened.
Posted by: Redbanzai at August 31, 2024 11:59 AM (pU81a)

Colonel Bearclaw said so. Must’ve happened….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 31, 2024 12:10 PM (+kWhq)

69 It is interesting how many prominent Dems have these child sex scandals in their background. Biden obviously with his own daughter and Bill Clinton as an Epstein client but even in NH the most prominent Dem is married to a guy who kept a sex scandal at his tony private school from going public/getting justice.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:10 PM (oZhjI)

70 Jim Geraghty should stop pouting and go beat up the Houthis.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2024 12:12 PM (63Dwl)

71 I'd bet they've been paid off to keep quiet. Or else.

How eager would the boys be to share their stories in the first place? It's sort of a self-covering crime.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2024 12:14 PM (eST6G)

72 66 It’s about time to plant a Trump/Vance sign in the yard for my Trump-hating neighbors. Hehe

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 31, 2024 12:09 PM (+kWhq)
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My immediate neighborhood is, surprise, all Republican including the Black families near me. And this is Illinois. If we had a different system of allocating votes this would be a solid R state.

Posted by: Ciampino - No Ispettore, sono tutti vigliacchi #10 at August 31, 2024 12:14 PM (qfLjt)

73 The Meme Trump said soldiers are lovers is a pure lie but as has been said, say it enough it becomes reality and Sundowner uses it almost every time he talks. Others have used it as well including Propaganda Ministry personnel

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 12:15 PM (fwDg9)

74 > It is interesting how many prominent Dems have these child sex scandals in their background.
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I think it's the primary reason there's such an effort to destigmatize it... make it normal. The number of politicos (on both sides) that are p3d0s is likely staggering. Same goes for academia, the media, etc.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 12:15 PM (Q4IgG)

75 The Meme Trump said soldiers are lovers is a pure lie but as has been said, say it enough it becomes reality and Sundowner uses it almost every time he talks. Others have used it as well including Propaganda Ministry personnel

And every time he spouts his lie it should be pointed how he intentionally let those 13 soldiers die in his bug out. They knew the suicide bomber was there and let him do his dirty work.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:16 PM (oZhjI)

76 Some here may not believe it, but some areas in Southern California are very nice places to live still. We moved from there to Texas for family reasons but I still miss many things. The beautiful landscape, ocean, weather… laid back vibe.

Of course I don’t miss the state income tax, sky high gas prices, a state government that’s more and more intrusive. If we still had school aged kids that alone would make it a no-go zone. But as a retiree in a quiet beach community…. You can still find very nice places to exist. Yes, you’ll pay an arm and a leg for a house….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 31, 2024 12:17 PM (+kWhq)

77 Warning about traveling through CA...those "traffic fines are doubled in work zones" signs tend to start long before and end long after the actual work zone. CA is also notorious for leaving "work zone" signs up until well after a project is completed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at August 31, 2024 12:19 PM (tT6L1)

78 Some deep state military guy says Trump called soldiers losers in a private meeting.

And that's articles from September 2020 being recycled in September 2024. Similar stuff was going on in 2016, but I guess that story didn't focus-group as well.

"I question the timing."

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2024 12:19 PM (uAczH)

79 Gerahty is a clown. (don't care enough to check the spelling)

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at August 31, 2024 12:20 PM (Z8Yh2)

80 It's true that the misery in CA isn't evenly distributed.
While we live somewhat modestly, I feel like all at my house are somewhat secure.
BUT things often change fast.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 31, 2024 12:21 PM (MeG8a)

81 Looser stupid auto cucumber

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 12:21 PM (fwDg9)

82 Tighter

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2024 12:23 PM (63Dwl)

83 Recent Bad Blue video had a overwatch sniper telling Congress he saw and could have taken out that suicide bomber but didn't get clearance to do so.

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 12:24 PM (fwDg9)

84 I did some yardwork today - mostly trimming branches from trees and throwing them in the fallow part of my yard.

Which prompted me to wonder...every year I throw branches/leaves/etc back there. Over time it will build it up (its lower then the other part of my yard now). Does that mean bio-material is slowly if negligibly expanding the earth?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:25 PM (oZhjI)

85 I think the cost of living was one of the primary reasons our daughter and family fled CA. $6 for a gallon of milk or gas, a package of hamburger to feed 4 was $16 and so on. They lived in close proximity to Monterey, so the costs reflect what the area/market will bear.

And, as I mentioned above, the crime was getting out of hand. But whatever you do, under no circumstances harass the criminals else you'll find yourself in trouble with the law.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 12:25 PM (Q4IgG)

86 Recent Bad Blue video had a overwatch sniper telling Congress he saw and could have taken out that suicide bomber but didn't get clearance to do so.

The cops and attendees were pointing out the assassin for some time before he shot. And the SS was aware that Crooks was in the area.

There is no reasonable conclusion but that whoever was coordinating the SS that day intentionally allowed Crooks to get into position and shoot.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:27 PM (oZhjI)

87 Walz left a teaching job in Nebraska, moved 500 miles away to MN. There could be good reasons why he did so.

Posted by: "Volunteer" Coach, My Ass at August 31, 2024 12:28 PM (CV8a5)

88 I'd bet they've been paid off to keep quiet. Or else.
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How eager would the boys be to share their stories in the first place? It's sort of a self-covering crime.
Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2024 12:14 PM (eST6G)

As was noted the other day, corporate media was more than willing to jump on the pedo priest stories, and are incredibly silent on public school teachers and pols who are doing the same, and worse.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:29 PM (7EyJX)

89 And he's deaf from the artillery and couldn't hear the siren when he was out drunk driving.

Posted by: Closet Poof at August 31, 2024 12:30 PM (CV8a5)

90 In a world of transgender surgeries, terrorist cryptocurrencies, and senile presidents, the Owl Wars that entered the 1990 presidential election seem implausible.
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1990 presidential election? What country?

Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2024 12:31 PM (1bNHn)

91 No, tje Overwatch sniper was in Afghanistan when suicide bomber killer 13 Americans and over 150 Afghans

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 12:32 PM (fwDg9)

92 What? No rapscallionism?

It's a good thing Publius isn't a marine (he looks more like a sailor).

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at August 31, 2024 12:32 PM (w6EFb)

93 Still, it's not the same as when a roommate of mine, as a child, wore a dress and little white gloves like her mother when going to "The City" of San Francisco to shop.
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My wife says she remembers doing that coming to Richmond to shop.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 31, 2024 12:32 PM (1bNHn)

94 Walz left a teaching job in Nebraska, moved 500 miles away to MN. There could be good reasons why he did so.
Posted by: "Volunteer" Coach, My Ass at August 31, 2024 12:28 PM (CV8a5)

Same reason smarter serial killers move around. Jurisdictions don't tend to talk to each other.

Lots of serial killers are OTR truckers for that very reason. Also there was a VA nurse who kept switching jobs whenever anyone would get suspicious. He'd leave one VA job in one state, get a job in another state, and nobody checked these stories before hiring him.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:33 PM (7EyJX)

95
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 12:05 PM (Q4IgG)

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Thanks for that story, MarFar (I typed MF first, then thought No).

Gourmand, my reason for staying stuck in Cali is elderly relatives -- who live in a nice and safe neighborhood. But as you say, things can change fast. I'm sure their neighborhood is one Venezuelan gang decision away from being a hellhole.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 31, 2024 12:34 PM (n7rxJ)

96 86
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:27 PM (oZhjI)
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I think Skip's comment referenced a sniper in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Ciampino - No Ispettore, sono tutti vigliacchi #11 at August 31, 2024 12:35 PM (qfLjt)

97 I do not believe that happened.
Posted by: Redbanzai at August 31, 2024 11:59 AM (pU81a)

It didn't. It was a meeting of about 23 other people, all of whom said Trump said no such thing. The person who said thnat he said it was fired by Trump, I believe, and then made up the story.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 31, 2024 12:35 PM (dTTBf)

98 Anyone know what this movie about the Apprentice that they are gonna release in October is ? Can't find much except supposedly it's a hit piece on Trump

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2024 12:35 PM (IyPmt)

99 Sometime soon, we should discuss who is in the oligarchy.

Billionaires and the political whores who help them make their crimes "perfectly legal". But soon the political whores will realize they need scapegoats. They will choose the billionaires and then "nationalize" every penny. The idea that politicians will bear the brunt of their actions is silly. Zuck may have realized this, but Gates, Soros, Buffett and Fink have yet to realize they were only tools.

Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:36 PM (2NXcZ)

100 but Gates, Soros, Buffett and Fink have yet to realize they were only tools.

Gates has no choice. Remember when his ex-wife started talking about Epstein he instantly agreed to her divorce terms...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:39 PM (oZhjI)

101 Billionaires and the political whores who help them make their crimes "perfectly legal". But soon the political whores will realize they need scapegoats. They will choose the billionaires and then "nationalize" every penny. The idea that politicians will bear the brunt of their actions is silly. Zuck may have realized this, but Gates, Soros, Buffett and Fink have yet to realize they were only tools.
Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:36 PM (2NXcZ)

I think your arrow is pointing the wrong way. Politicians don't hold the power, the money types do.

If they need scrapegoats, they'll have plenty of them, while they're safely underground in their bunkers.

As I said above, lots of people think they are part of the Ruling Party, and they will find out at some point, they are not.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:39 PM (7EyJX)

102 Gates has no choice. Remember when his ex-wife started talking about Epstein he instantly agreed to her divorce terms...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:39 PM (oZhjI)

Nicole Shanahan's former husband is/was a bazillionaire in the tech industry. I'm not sure if he's dead or just divorced. I don't recall who it is.

But she knows things.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:40 PM (7EyJX)

103 101. Tell that to the owner of Telegram who sits in a French Jail. Ultimately money yields to politicians who have police forces, militaries and the power to confiscate wealth.

Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:41 PM (2NXcZ)

104 Same reason smarter serial killers move around. Jurisdictions don't tend to talk to each other.

The lesbian couple a few years ago who abused their kids and then drove their car off a cliff, killing everyone, adopted the kids in Minnesota, stayed in Minnesota for a while, moved to Oregon for a while, and then moved to Washington did that.

And they weren't shy about playing the "oppressed lesbian" card any time they were questioned.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 31, 2024 12:41 PM (uxCna)

105 I'm watching Massilon HS football vs NFL Academy HS students from Europe. Many of the refs are overweight,
the lead ref looks like he weighs about 270.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 31, 2024 12:42 PM (fs1hN)

106 Gates has no choice. Remember when his ex-wife started talking about Epstein he instantly agreed to her divorce terms...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:39 PM (oZhjI)

So he's either owned by the IC crowd, or funded Epstein himself. We don't know.

Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:43 PM (2NXcZ)

107 That road work sign won't work in Washington State. Here the Rapid Transit Authority cheated and lied their way into a ballot almost 20 years ago. The fee goes into the car tags each year. ($100's)They keep extending it. Now the "finish date" is set for 2041. I'm paying for something I'll never use and for new rail 60 miles away.
Fu*k this state.
If Mrs D could walk without a cane,I'd move in a NY minute.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2024 12:43 PM (W/lyH)

108 Tell that to the owner of Telegram who sits in a French Jail. Ultimately money yields to politicians who have police forces, militaries and the power to confiscate wealth.
Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:41 PM (2NXcZ)

Actually, he's been released. He's not part of the ruling class though. He was the darling of the Deep State, until he refused to agree to let governments have a back door onto his platform.

Macron is just an errand boy sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:44 PM (7EyJX)

109 I see a couple of names that used to post back in January of '21, then took a vacay from the site.

Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:45 PM (2NXcZ)

110 Shananan's second husband was Sergey Brin. His name doesn't come up in a lot of the more depraved things his fellow oligarchs get mentioned for but...he seems to be on good terms with all of them.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:47 PM (oZhjI)

111 In a statement Wednesday, the Paris prosecutor's office confirmed Durov's release, noting, "An investigating judge has ended Pavel Durov's police custody and will have him brought to court for a first appearance and a possible indictment."

So he caved.

Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:47 PM (2NXcZ)

112 The lesbian couple a few years ago who abused their kids and then drove their car off a cliff, killing everyone, adopted the kids in Minnesota, stayed in Minnesota for a while, moved to Oregon for a while, and then moved to Washington did that.

And they weren't shy about playing the "oppressed lesbian" card any time they were questioned.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 31, 2024 12:41 PM (uxCna)

Egad, sometimes I hate this world. No doubt there are many many stories like that, or the one where the male couple adopted kids to incorporate them into their games. I think they had been on a reality show, or maybe had a Yootoob channel.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:47 PM (7EyJX)

113 California is sort of a microcosm for the greater America. It alone has resources that are the envy of whole countries around the world. Food production. Timber, oil, gas, minerals.

It's crazy how all the political distortions accumulate over time, and ultimately turn everything to one big dumpster fire where nothing works, and it all costs a fortune. It's all self-inflicted misery, or some derivation of "We fucked up, therefore you gotta be punished".

Posted by: It Just Makes Sense Now That I Think About It at August 31, 2024 12:47 PM (AJwLz)

114 American Thinker article Tampon Tim's brother might be open to appearing at a Trump rally.
That would be awesome

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 12:48 PM (fwDg9)

115
So he's either owned by the IC crowd, or funded Epstein himself. We don't know.


If Trump does win it will be interesting to see what he does with the Epstein mess. He poked at it as president but I don't think he realized just how deep that rabbit hole went.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:48 PM (oZhjI)

116 Shananan's second husband was Sergey Brin. His name doesn't come up in a lot of the more depraved things his fellow oligarchs get mentioned for but...he seems to be on good terms with all of them.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:47 PM (oZhjI)

Yes, that's him. I'm sure there are levels, and being an insider doesn't always mean you are an insider insider.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:49 PM (7EyJX)

117 Road work is a great grifting gig. Get millions for some roadwork. Have the state road crew put up thousands of orange cones and funnel 8 lanes of traffic into one.

For a couple years.

Send that road crew out again to remove the cones and put them up a few miles down the road.

Rince - repeat.

All you need is two guys, a white truck with yellow flashing lights and a shit ton of orange cones.

Profit

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 12:49 PM (Q4IgG)

118 So what is the deal with Trump and 'loser' veterans? Neighbor has a sign about it
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 31, 2024 11:50 AM (/6GbT)

I know he said whatever that was about Mccain, and I think there might have been another quote attributed to him that has no basis in reality.

Not unlike the "good people on both sides" lie they tell about Charlottesville. People with fixed notions that Trump is somehow anti-Veteran is a bullshit lie for dummies and shitheads to believe in, because they dummies and shitheads.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 11:54
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The POWs never badmouth each other, at least in public. Had a family member in the Hanoi Hilton with McCain. I doubt he voted for him.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2024 12:50 PM (W/lyH)

119 So he's either owned by the IC crowd, or funded Epstein himself. We don't know.
Posted by: enough Bullshit at August 31, 2024 12:43 PM (2NXcZ)

All of the above. First he was a customer, then he bought the company.

Probably not by choice, but once they have you, they have you, and with all the Hollyweird celebs who are part of the club, they serve whatever purpose they do... but they're not in charge.

Someone else is. Some mix of oligarchs and Deep State entities. In this country, and others.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:51 PM (7EyJX)

120 Nine wore weekends until the Great Electoral Reckoning.

Posted by: Shenanigans at August 31, 2024 12:51 PM (wGun1)

121 Road work is a great grifting gig. Get millions for some roadwork. Have the state road crew put up thousands of orange cones and funnel 8 lanes of traffic into one.

Near where I live there is a construction site where the state has been working on a section of road for 10 years. It isn't a long stretch, just a couple of miles. And most of the land is undeveloped.

In the same area a private company bought some land and put up a luxury condo building. It took 2 years to clear the land and put up the massive building.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 12:52 PM (oZhjI)

122 The POWs never badmouth each other, at least in public. Had a family member in the Hanoi Hilton with McCain. I doubt he voted for him.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2024 12:50 PM (W/lyH)

Among all the mistakes Trump has made, he could have criticized Mccain on any number of things. Going after his POW status was dumb.

Just like going after Cummala for not being black is dumb.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 12:53 PM (7EyJX)

123 The Marine safety brief reminds me of a Nashville rockabilly guitarist/comedian stage named Webb Wilder.

Posted by: Fenderbender at August 31, 2024 12:54 PM (r72iY)

124 Great Trump ad I’ve seen at least 3 times during the UGA-Clemson game. Camala rattling off all the ways prices have gone up, with her on another screen talking about how proud she is of Bidenomics.

Not a word is said by Trump.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 31, 2024 01:02 PM (Y8lzz)

125
Great Trump ad I’ve seen at least 3 times during the UGA-Clemson game. Camala rattling off all the ways prices have gone up, with her on another screen talking about how proud she is of Bidenomics.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens

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Negative ads ftw.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 31, 2024 01:05 PM (n7rxJ)

126 If California asks the federal government for a bailout, the feds should respond by telling California that if California accepts the money, California is returned to territorial status. All of its laws are nullified, all of its governing boards are wiped out, a new election law implemented which allows only for paper ballots, etc. and this will be the case until California pays back the bailout and they won't be allowed to have any new election laws passed for at least fifty years after the bailout is repaid.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at August 31, 2024 01:06 PM (ghV3u)

127 Going after McCain for his POW status was dumb but I don't think that this will be the case with going after Kamala for not being black:

https://x.com/atensnut/status/1829503980889629082

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at August 31, 2024 01:09 PM (ghV3u)

128 if California accepts the money, California is returned to territorial status.

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 31, 2024 01:12 PM (lYyke)

129 Going after McCain for his POW status was dumb but I don't think that this will be the case with going after Kamala for not being black:
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https://x.com/atensnut/status/1829503980889629082
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at August 31, 2024 01:09 PM (ghV3u)

I'm holding my tongue, on the topic of if/when black people who stop letting themselves by owned by the Democrat Party, but from my perspective, it's not a question of its electoral impact. Just that there are so many better ways to go after Cummala.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 31, 2024 01:13 PM (7lEcl)

130
(wags tail, sniffs under door)
Pet thread? Pet thread?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at August 31, 2024 01:14 PM (lYyke)

131 No pets yet... I did a last minute submission. We'll see if it makes it.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 31, 2024 01:16 PM (VCgbV)

132 at the La Brea Tar Pits

La Brea means 'the tar'. I'm going to the The Tar Tar Pits' sounds a bit awkward.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 31, 2024 01:17 PM (IG4Id)

133 If Trump can peel away 10%of the African American vote that he didn't have last time he wins. The issue of whether Harris is black does resonate with some AA but the shitty economy is more of an issue with them.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at August 31, 2024 01:17 PM (I+yhq)

134 I wonder how dot Indians feel about America's first Indian AG/Senator/Blow Job queen becoming black over night.

Out of the Indians I know a bunch of them liked the Indian guy that was leading Britain solely because he was Indian. If he suddenly claimed to be black I don't know what it would do to their support...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 31, 2024 01:20 PM (oZhjI)

135 There definitely are better ways to go after Kamala, and Trump should go with these long before he spends time on whether she is culturally American black ("Its the economy, stupid, and the policing, and the border, and just about everything else" should be Trump's focus - he has a target-rich environment with Harris), but at the same time, I don't think this angle hurts him.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at August 31, 2024 01:21 PM (ghV3u)

136 Jar Jar Binks lives at The Tar Tar Pits.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2024 01:21 PM (63Dwl)

137 Jar Jar Binks lives at The Tar Tar Pits.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2024 01:21 PM (63Dwl)


And serves up steak tartare.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2024 01:24 PM (W/lyH)

138 Jar Jar Binks should have been drawn and quartered in the beginning to rid us of him.

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 01:30 PM (fwDg9)

139 127 Going after McCain for his POW status was dumb but I don't think that this will be the case with going after Kamala for not being black:

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Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at August 31, 2024 01:09 PM (ghV3u)

Maybe should should have stuck with Indian

Posted by: It's me donna at August 31, 2024 01:33 PM (IyPmt)

140
One of the things that I found amusing about oil in Santa Barbara is the tar balls on the beach. The local news would start caterwauling about tar balls every year or two, whining about walking their shi tzu on the beach and having tar balls get into their coat, blaming it all on those greedy, careless oil companies. A week or two later, they'd have a quiet update on the late news where they'd note that tar balls are part of the natural seepage of oil from the channel. The local Chumash injuns used them to waterproof their canoes for hundreds of years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2024 01:35 PM (+uHnC)

141 X is going crazy that Tim Walz’s brother will speak at a Trump rally. If true, that would be hysterical.

Posted by: Piper at August 31, 2024 01:35 PM (aT5K/)

142 I've been trying to give morons insights into living here the last 35 years because, it always happens here first. $15 wage. Gay marriage. Public health care. LGBTQ radicalism. Immigration radicalism. Race Marxism. Restorative Justice. Election Tampering. Shameless corruption. Media collapse and collusion.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 31, 2024 01:36 PM (RIvkX)

143 Part of my pwn personal political transformation was realizing why Mrs. F.'s rich lib cousins were so liberal.

It was because they could afford to be.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 31, 2024 01:38 PM (RIvkX)

144 So he caved.

I read that 96 hours was the maximum hold the French can impose after an arrest.

I'm surprised he and his brother are alive. They have blinded the intelligence agencies.

Posted by: t-bird at August 31, 2024 01:39 PM (xw/ji)

145 The Santa Barbara seep was estimated to be one hundred thousand years old, the last time I looked into it fifteen years ago.

We were doing coastal California a big favor by drilling for oil off-shore since this was tapping into the seep's oil but the environmentalists hate it when oil companies do things like this.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at August 31, 2024 01:40 PM (ghV3u)

146 Jar Jar Binks lives at The Tar Tar Pits.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 31, 2024 01:21 PM (63Dwl)

And dances in the living room to Tay Tay

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 31, 2024 01:40 PM (+uHnC)

147 I've been trying to give morons insights into living here the last 35 years because, it always happens here first. $15 wage. Gay marriage. Public health care. LGBTQ radicalism. Immigration radicalism. Race Marxism. Restorative Justice. Election Tampering. Shameless corruption. Media collapse and collusion.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 31, 2024 01:36 PM (RIvkX)


So...what are you trying to say?


/sarc

Posted by: Diogenes at August 31, 2024 01:40 PM (W/lyH)

148 GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 31, 2024 01:41 PM (fwDg9)

149 >>> 62 > I can go with that. What I'm wondering though, because these things CAN take decades to come out, is when the former students start to disclose.
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I'd bet they've been paid off to keep quiet. Or else.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 31, 2024 12:08 PM (Q4IgG)

Crazy talk!

Posted by: Kevin Spacey at August 31, 2024 01:43 PM (FnneF)

150 At the time of the Spotted Owl "debate", there were ignored ornithologists who believed the aggressive barred owls were the problem. The "requires old growth" idea had ONE paper, written by a grad student which was then cited as Holy Writ by the Church of the Owlpocalypse.

Dwyer also blocked second growth logging in the Wenatchee Nat Forest where spotted owls impossibly had lived without decimation from steady logging .

Posted by: Hal Dall at August 31, 2024 01:59 PM (ij5Vd)

151 35 19 Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA

So basically NASA is trying to tell us that things will get fixed better and more quickly if we hand the reins of power to white supremacists? NASA must be low on rocket scientists

Posted by: azjaeger at August 31, 2024 02:05 PM (3/XaG)

152 I'm really tired of all the owl on owl violence. They need midnight basketball.
Posted by: Archimedes

Disney feature cartoon The Sword in the Stone the character Merlin had a talking owl. It's name? Archimedes.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 31, 2024 02:28 PM (4XwPj)

153 I spent my 4 years in the Navy in California. San Diego and Lemoore.

I was fairly left at the time. Those years cured me of that.

California’s motto should be “Better Living Through Legislation,” because pretty much everything except deliberately infect someone with HIV, shitting on the sidewalk and smoking weed is against the law.

Four years in that state should teach anyone with an IQ above freezing that the left’s primary accomplishment is turning an actual paradise into Hell on Earth.

Posted by: Misanthropic Misanthrope at August 31, 2024 05:39 PM (Y2NGV)

154 "...beyond Trump’s pouting and threatening to withdraw from the remaining debate. "
Geraghty used to be one of my favorite writers who I stopped reading @ early 2021. Good to see he's still an insufferable dousche

Posted by: Brother Bob at August 31, 2024 09:29 PM (zZe7j)

155 Enviromentalism is the enemy of ....Enviromentalism

Case in point, our family farm in Texas was owned by my father and his Leftist brother. At a recent visit, my cousin mentioned that migrating Canadian Geese were using a large pond as a rest stop, and that we might be able to get that area designiated as a Protected Wetlands.

I told him that was a brilliant idea, as I casually glanced around for a huge rock. Very next night, I drained that damn pound and filled it with dirt. Sorry Geese, but the EPA would take everything a 30 mile radius over some Endangered Species BS Better safe than sorry

Posted by: Fen at August 31, 2024 10:09 PM (2SIWo)

156 I noticed how small Kamala sitting at that table.

Posted by: Suggon Deeznutz at August 31, 2024 10:20 PM (HuPMx)

157 "Perfectionism And “A Sense Of Urgency” Are Characteristics Of White Supremacy, According To NASA"

So is Exploration and Colonization, according the DEI officers.

Posted by: Fen at August 31, 2024 10:32 PM (2SIWo)

158 Burt: "Among all the mistakes Trump has made, he could have criticized Mccain on any number of things. Going after his POW status was dumb. Just like going after Cummala for not being black is dumb."

Interesting analysis. In THIS reality Trump went after her for race pandering, identifying as Indian or as African American, depending on the targeted race.

My my Grandma, what sharp teeth you have

Posted by: Fen at August 31, 2024 11:01 PM (2SIWo)

159 You had to ruin the post with an NRO never Trump loser didn't you ...

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