What to do while the kids are home from school

Things to do with kids during the long weekend

Other than shopping, I mean.

There are lots of possibilities:

1. Playing. Do you have family traditions for play during the holidays?

2. Reading. Can and do the kids you know read books? How about essays?

3. Movies and videos. For fun or education. Got suggestions?

4. Social Media. Utilizing the Dark Side to introduce some new viewpoints.

Got other ideas?

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Playing

You're on your own. Comment away!

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Reading

First, with today's schools, it's a good idea to check to make sure that the kids CAN read. Then, maybe introduce them to some of your favorite books. Check in with some recent AoSHQ Book Threads. Maybe read something fun to the little ones.

And maybe introduce some new ideas about acceptable reading materials:

When I first moved to New York in 1990, I knew a total of five people. They all had lives of their own--I couldn't just plop myself down and demand their attention--and so I signed up for a once a week class taught at the West Side YMCA, hoping I could make a friend or two there. "Writing Funny," the course was called, and it was taught by a British woman named Freda Garmaise who was maybe in her mid-sixties at the time, and had published several books.
"What are the rules of comedy writing?" she asked at the start of our first session.
I put my hand up. "You should never make fun of anyone who has less power than you."
Freda looked at me the way I deserved to be looked at, with a combination of disgust and pity. "Where on earth did you get that idea?" she asked.
I groped for an answer. "The Village Voice, maybe?"
"No, no, no," she said. "The only rule of comedy anything is that you always should be as tasteless as possible."

I think about that moment a lot, especially now when punching down, the phrase, has become ubiquitous--the worst crime a comic or humor writer can commit, at least according to the people who now decide such things, meaning people on Twitter who determine, based, I suppose, on your photo and a wild guess at your net worth, who you are and are not allowed to make jokes about.
Words, we are now regularly reminded, are violence. So too is silence. I read not long ago that capitalism is violence, as is misgendering someone. Ignoring someone is violence, but so too is paying them attention. A friend recently called on one of her assistants to deliver a statistic during a business meeting and was later charged with "casual violence." Apparently Deborah needed to give advance warning that she was going to ask a question, one that might possibly put her employee--someone who was well paid to know stuff and be able to spew it forth--on the spot.
Who are these hothouse flowers, all so easily and consistently wounded? People whose parents never hit them, that's who. . .

And then there's writing. Ever written something special to a kid?

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Movies and Videos

For long weekends, the important thing is to share the experience, so kids can hear your point of view. And some of the older ones might learn something without your input, too. There may be an opportunity to introduce kids to some actual fun or inspiring movies, either old or (rare) new.

Not-so-fun movies might be in order for kids who are in danger of capture by the "successor ideology". Hotel Mumbai was mentioned last week. If someone reads a Land Acknowledgement, a screening of Apocalypto might be in order. Here's another idea:

Watched “The Fall of Minneapolis” yesterday. It is really about the fall of America!

Founding father John Adams risked his livelihood to defend British soldiers accused of murdering American patriots. Adams, a patriot himself, refused to sacrifice truth, no matter how… pic.twitter.com/4uFPTvkHY3
— Xi Van Fleet (@XVanFleet) November 24, 2023

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Social Media.

Utilizing the Dark Side to introduce some new viewpoints.

Seen the news about the protests against violent immigrants in Ireland? How's our English language media doing?

So today we’ve seen The Guardian quote an Irish ex-diplomat saying it’s ‘freeing’ to have so few Jews in Ireland.

And Sky News suggesting Israel doesn’t value Palestinian life because Hamas are forcing them to release prisoners at a 3:1 ratio.

I am ashamed of British media.
— Heidi Bachram 🎗️ (@HeidiBachram) November 23, 2023

Press biased against Israel is not new. This was written in 2014. A former AP correspondent explains how and why reporters get Israel so wrong, and why it matters

The Zionist occupation army is destroying the tunnels that have been built by the hands of our children!

Over 160 children gave their lives building those tunnels. This is how they disrespect our children! 😡
— Gaza Ministry of Health (@GazaHealth) November 22, 2023

Thomas Jefferson must have been a time traveler, because his words could not have been more prescient:

"Man, once surrendering his reason, has no remaining guard against absurdities the most monstrous, and like a ship without rudder, is the sport of every wind. With such…
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) November 23, 2023

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Music

It's not too late for Thanksgiving Music.

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Hope you have something nice planned for this long weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, November 18 Surprises from former "New Atheist" Ayaan Hirsi Ali and other current or former members of the left, which includes content about Christianity (including Finnish Christianity), the New Atheists, Wokeness and Critical Social Justice, Streaming Culture and affection for bin Laden, and more.

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:16 AM

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1 Yeah, I'm a rookie! Sue me.

Thanks for the thread KT.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:18 AM (r+I8w)

2 You can tell that the 1st is a surprise!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:19 AM (r+I8w)

3 I'll go fetch them.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:19 AM (r+I8w)

4 Podium

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 11:19 AM (fwDg9)

5 Fetched them.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:19 AM (r+I8w)

6 Arts and crafts

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 11:20 AM (fwDg9)

7 hamas has halted the 2nd transfer of hostages over yada yada yada. Scumbag terrorists
But not unexpected

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 25, 2023 11:21 AM (PQ4m2)

8 Good idea, Skip!

Posted by: KT at November 25, 2023 11:21 AM (rrtZS)

9 For holiday movies we like Marx Brothers.
Duck Soup, Horse Feathers.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 25, 2023 11:22 AM (RIvkX)

10 hamas has halted the 2nd transfer of hostages over yada yada yada. Scumbag terrorists
But not unexpected
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Build anticipation and then shut it down... psych ops.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:23 AM (r+I8w)

11 Take them hunting. We have a deer season this weekend in PA (an unusually early start)

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2023 11:24 AM (HjfVN)

12 Playing

You're on your own. Comment away!

Hiya !

Posted by: JT at November 25, 2023 11:25 AM (T4tVD)

13 Speaking of Thanksgiving, Netflix has a new Scott Pilgrim series they released. At first I thought it was going to be just the same story, in the style of the books, but it's not.

It's a sort of alternate history, and so far I'd say it's not bad. I think it's only about 8 episodes? And I've watched maybe half of them.

We'll see how it goes.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:26 AM (QBaJw)

14 Also, I'd like to point out that all that wood isn't going to split itself!

h/t my father

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2023 11:26 AM (HjfVN)

15 Give them chores around the house...things you've meaning to get to and beyond their usual tasks. Kids love to help out.

Posted by: Dad of Six at November 25, 2023 11:26 AM (VpZau)

16 Thanksgiving weekend starts the dreaded Christmas Decorating at our house. It takes days. And days. I'm already about to throw up. Rev has Christmas OCD.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at November 25, 2023 11:27 AM (45fpk)

17 Go Bucks!

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at November 25, 2023 11:27 AM (sJHOI)

18 Build anticipation and then shut it down... psych ops.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:23 AM (r+I8w)

I'd guess it's more a matter of nobody really being in charge on the ground, and they're not very good at coordinating and communicating.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:28 AM (QBaJw)

19 If had kids they would be leaf collecting

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 11:28 AM (fwDg9)

20 Thread is jumpy for me.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at November 25, 2023 11:29 AM (45fpk)

21 Ah yes, the children Hamas forced to dig those tunnels whether or not they wanted to.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 25, 2023 11:29 AM (tpCh3)

22 When my boys are both in town, we always go for a hike in the woods. And a road trip to our favorite oyster beds. And a walk On the beach.

And we go to Mass together. I sit in between them and we hold hands for most of it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 25, 2023 11:31 AM (L2z8B)

23 Thanksgiving weekend starts the dreaded Christmas Decorating at our house. It takes days. And days. I'm already about to throw up. Rev has Christmas OCD.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at November 25, 2023 11:27 AM (45fpk)
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grammie, speaking as MOT I want you to know how much I appreciate all that effort because I love the lights and decorations and general festiveness

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 25, 2023 11:32 AM (RIvkX)

24 So much football!! Longhorns win big last night. Now go huskies!

Posted by: LASue at November 25, 2023 11:32 AM (Ed8Zd)

25 Thanksgiving weekend starts the dreaded Christmas Decorating at our house. It takes days. And days. I'm already about to throw up. Rev has Christmas OCD.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at November 25, 2023 11:27 AM (45fpk)

I wouldn't call it envy, but it does make me somewhat sad, not having any real tradition about such things.

Such stark contrast from one year to the next, over the course of the past several years, but when the kids were younger, it was a genuine joy to decorate... in a very non-traditional way.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:32 AM (QBaJw)

26 Go Blue!

Posted by: Dad of Six at November 25, 2023 11:32 AM (VpZau)

27 PC Gamer
@pcgamer
*deep breath* self-described gay furry hackers breach one of the biggest nuclear labs in the US, and demand it begin researching 'IRL catgirls'

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Another grim milestone of the Biden administration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:32 AM (FVME7)

28 So much football!! Longhorns win big last night. Now go huskies!
Posted by: LASue at November 25, 2023 11:32 AM (Ed8Zd)

Shouldn't that be so MANY footballs? -

-Misguided Grammar Nazi

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:34 AM (QBaJw)

29 And GO HUSKIES!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 25, 2023 11:34 AM (L2z8B)

30 Ok. Gotta go get stuff done. Adios!

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 25, 2023 11:35 AM (L2z8B)

31 BREAKING: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison, seriously injured

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:35 AM (FVME7)

32 BREAKING: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison, seriously injured
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:35 AM (FVME7)

We're not a moral nation, we're not a just nation.

We put way too many people in prison who do not belong there, and leave out way too many who do.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:37 AM (QBaJw)

33 BREAKING: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison, seriously injured
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:35 AM (FVME7)

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Well, not really "breaking" since it happened yesterday.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2023 11:38 AM (LsAl1)

34 Hamas delays release of 2nd group of Israeli hostages, @kaisos1987 reports

Of course.

The second group was mostly kids.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 11:40 AM (YAtuc)

35 Four more years!

Spielberg Rallies for Biden, Silent on Hamas Atrocities

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:41 AM (FVME7)

36 Troll cleanup post #32

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 25, 2023 11:41 AM (tpCh3)

37 Well, not really "breaking" since it happened yesterday.
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2023 11:38 AM (LsAl1)

What is yesterday, but today's tomorrow.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:42 AM (QBaJw)

38 You had to see Derek getting stabbed/ beaten/ pulverized coming

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 11:44 AM (fwDg9)

39 "Progressive and liberal grassroots activists in New Jersey blasted the “corruption and nepotism” in the Senate Democratic primary election following first lady Tammy Murphy’s announcement that she’s running to replace embattled Sen. Bob Menendez in 2024."

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What, you thought the people decided such things?

How quaint.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:44 AM (QBaJw)

40 27 PC Gamer
@pcgamer
*deep breath* self-described gay furry hackers breach one of the biggest nuclear labs in the US, and demand it begin researching 'IRL catgirls'

-
Another grim milestone of the Biden administration.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:32 AM (FVME7)

Hal, I do not understand. Were they hacking because of the hairballs?

Posted by: OpenAI Q* at November 25, 2023 11:45 AM (z+89e)

41 Troll cleanup post #32
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale

Or change the signature to 'Media Matters'. It'll mess up their screenshot.

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2023 11:46 AM (HjfVN)

42 Biden Says Chances “Real” of a Truce Agreement Following Release of 24 Hostages by Hamas

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Just as real as the successes of Bidenomics!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7)

43 Kids love to help out.
Posted by: Dad of Six

That's true until they are big enough to actually help and then they have *other things* to do...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:47 AM (r+I8w)

44 What is yesterday, but today's tomorrow.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:42 AM (QBaJw)

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Whoa

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2023 11:47 AM (LsAl1)

45 Well, I'm glad some Democrats are upset about Tammy Murphy running for Menendez' seat,, because I'm not a Democrat and it bothers me. Now we know the real reason they took down corrupt Menendez.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 11:48 AM (NNGiM)

46 That's true until they are big enough to actually help and then they have *other things* to do...

That's ok. When they get too big, you can't lower them down the chimney with a brush and a flashlight.

Posted by: t-bird at November 25, 2023 11:50 AM (HjfVN)

47 Biden Says Chances “Real” of a Truce Agreement Following Release of 24 Hostages by Hamas

Now that Israel has agreed to a "temporary" cease-fire, it will not be allowed to restart hostilities.

This was utterly predictable.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 11:50 AM (YAtuc)

48 "U.S. & Germany Push Zelensky To Negotiate, Ceding Territory to Russia.---
The U.S. and German governments now believe the Ukrainian military is incapable of retaking territory lost to Russia in the course of the latter’s invasion."

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In other words, we found a new war, she's prettier than you and more fun, stop calling us.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:51 AM (QBaJw)

49 GO BLUE!!!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at November 25, 2023 11:52 AM (JrojV)

50 We've been reduced to a barter economy!

Sam Bankman-Fried Reportedly Using Pouches of Fish as Currency in Jail

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:52 AM (FVME7)

51 Got other ideas?

Punishment.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 25, 2023 11:53 AM (TJZm9)

52 47 Biden Says Chances “Real” of a Truce Agreement Following Release of 24 Hostages by Hamas

Now that Israel has agreed to a "temporary" cease-fire, it will not be allowed to restart hostilities.

This was utterly predictable.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 11:50 AM (YAtuc)

That's what I was afraid of too

Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2023 11:53 AM (bs+z0)

53 Well, I'm glad some Democrats are upset about Tammy Murphy running for Menendez' seat,, because I'm not a Democrat and it bothers me. Now we know the real reason they took down corrupt Menendez.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 11:48 AM (NNGiM)

Pretty much. I shouldn't say it's funny, but it's so transparent, it's hard not to laugh.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (QBaJw)

54 lower them down the chimney with a brush and a flashlight.
Posted by: t-bird

Correction "toothbrush".

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (r+I8w)

55 What is yesterday, but today's tomorrow.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:42 AM (QBaJw)

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Whoa
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2023 11:47 AM (LsAl1)

You should recognize that. They had a whole Bob’s Burgers episode on that ‘motivational’ saying.

Posted by: Drive by at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (MNhXM)

56 What is yesterday, but today's tomorrow.
Posted by: BurtTC

Burt is Dr. Who?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (FVME7)

57 Ok. Gotta go get stuff done. Adios!
Posted by: nurse ratched at November 25, 2023 11:35 AM (L2z8B)

Subtractios !

Posted by: JT at November 25, 2023 11:55 AM (T4tVD)

58 We've been reduced to a barter economy!

Sam Bankman-Fried Reportedly Using Pouches of Fish as Currency in Jail
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:52 AM (FVME7)

Are we sure Pouches of Fish is not a new cryptocurrency?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:55 AM (QBaJw)

59 Ever written something special to a kid?

Want to help me and the puppet find my lost kitten?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at November 25, 2023 11:55 AM (TJZm9)

60 Thanksgiving weekend starts the dreaded Christmas Decorating at our house. It takes days. And days. I'm already about to throw up. Rev has Christmas OCD.
Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at November 25, 2023 11:27 AM (45fpk)

Once our son was grown and out of the house, I no longer did the outside lights thing. Simple wreath on the front door with a single spot focused on it. Besides, when I did do the lights, my wife hated it. Her remark was, "my house looks like Kmart!". We still put up the tree, but we get no visitors anymore, except for a neighbor. Our families were very small, both parents are long gone. A Charlie Brown tree would be fine with me. Wife isn't into the whole decorating thing either. At our ages (51 years of marriage), simplifying is better.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 25, 2023 11:55 AM (iODuv)

61 Are we sure Pouches of Fish is not a new cryptocurrency?
Posted by: BurtTC

Next thing you know SBF will be 'kite-ing' fish pouches and have an ugly boyfriend.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:56 AM (r+I8w)

62 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (QBaJw)

It's also the reason why stuff is coming out about Mayor Adams too. I'm hoping this along with the horrible anti semitism might open the eyes of some Democrats.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 11:56 AM (HYH4V)

63 What is yesterday, but today's tomorrow.
Posted by: BurtTC

Burt is Dr. Who?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (FVME7)

Actually I've been rewatching Jacksfilms vids, where often commenters post fake Jaden Smith tweets.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:57 AM (QBaJw)

64 It's also the reason why stuff is coming out about Mayor Adams too. I'm hoping this along with the horrible anti semitism might open the eyes of some Democrats.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 11:56 AM (HYH4V)

From your lips to God's ears

Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2023 11:57 AM (bs+z0)

65 lower them down the chimney with a brush and a flashlight.
Posted by: t-bird

Correction "toothbrush".
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (r+I8w)

Your chimney has teeth ?

Posted by: JT at November 25, 2023 11:59 AM (T4tVD)

66 Next thing you know SBF will be 'kite-ing' fish pouches and have an ugly boyfriend.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 11:56 AM (r+I8w)

Oh, I'm sure he already has an ugly boyfriend.

Or more accurately, he IS the ugly boyfriend.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:59 AM (QBaJw)

67 It's also the reason why stuff is coming out about Mayor Adams too. I'm hoping this along with the horrible anti semitism might open the eyes of some Democrats.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 11:56 AM (HYH4V)

Andrew Cuomo also poked his head up, there were hints he'd run for mayor. And as soon as that hit the news, one of his accusers slapped him with a new lawsuit.

Now, maybe that was her idea, but.....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:00 PM (QBaJw)

68 5. Learn pirating on San Francisco bay.

Posted by: Black Friday Arrgggghhh at November 25, 2023 12:02 PM (qUkBO)

69 Out and about for lunch, decided to have some McDoanlds, nothing crazy just cheeseburgers.

Apparently they're now up charging 1.50 for unsweetened ice tea.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 25, 2023 12:02 PM (XV/Pl)

70 On weekends like this, in the evenings if I'm with the grandkids I like to make sure 1

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 12:02 PM (7eUg9)

71 Bah stupid phone

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 12:03 PM (7eUg9)

72 Look like all those riots worldwide got results. Israel got fucked.

Posted by: Montec at November 25, 2023 12:03 PM (bWsRe)

73 Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2023 11:57 AM (bs+z0)

Well, if the misogyny directed at Sarah Pailin can open my eyes- and it wasn't just "She's a stupid hillbilly" but " I'd like to have -( non consensual) sex with her on an American flag while I hold my hand over her mouth and read the Constitution to her-(?!!-) , then the anti semitism can be a catalyst for some Dems too. And yes, I do pray that their eyes are opened.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:03 PM (HYH4V)

74 Learn Microsoft Excel.

Posted by: You'll need it at some point at November 25, 2023 12:04 PM (NBVIP)

75 Now, maybe that was her idea, but.....
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:00 PM (QBaJw)

Yep, Cuomo- whom I don't like - is a target too.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:05 PM (HYH4V)

76 Sam Bankman-Fried Reportedly Using Pouches of Fish as Currency in Jail
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:52 AM (FVME7)

He will probably find that "brown starfish" has the greatest purchasing power.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 25, 2023 12:05 PM (a4qL7)

77 Apparently they're now up charging 1.50 for unsweetened ice tea.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 25, 2023 12:02 PM (XV/Pl)

Buy inflation is negative, you’re a liar!!
- DU

Posted by: Montec at November 25, 2023 12:08 PM (bWsRe)

78 I like to make sure they know the true Film Classics, like Holy Grail, Conan the Barbarian (original), Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles. Schools today don't teach them anything.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 12:08 PM (7eUg9)

79 Out and about for lunch, decided to have some McDoanlds, nothing crazy just cheeseburgers.

Apparently they're now up charging 1.50 for unsweetened ice tea.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 25, 2023 12:02 PM (XV/Pl)

We generally don't do McD's these days, but when we were on the road, they're one of the few fast food places along they way, that can be eaten in the car.

A large order of fries is something like $4.50.

The boy does love their fries though, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:08 PM (QBaJw)

80 BREAKING: Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison, seriously injured
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Jack Straw on twitter reported he died of his injuries. I'm trying to validate that report. Don't quote me - I'm easily confused. No kidding.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 25, 2023 12:09 PM (qoGsy)

81 My kids have been off all week along with my husband and myself.
The only accomplishment is getting the greenhouse up and putting the plants in it. Otherwise nothing got done. Tree isn't up and no decorating done. Everyone is slothful...🦥

Posted by: lin-duh at November 25, 2023 12:09 PM (QBwwm)

82 Sam Bankman-Fried Reportedly Using Pouches of Fish as Currency in Jail
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:52 AM (FVME7)

Doesn't it stink after awhile ?

Posted by: JT at November 25, 2023 12:10 PM (T4tVD)

83 What to do with kids...
Put up Christmas tree
Go golfing with sons-in-law
Let daughters and grand kids decorate tree
Return, take grand kids to shooting range
Fire up BBQ upon return
Ribs!

Sigh...if only

Just me and Mrs D this year. Damned tree is heavy.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 25, 2023 12:11 PM (uSHSS)

84 I like to make sure they know the true Film Classics, like Holy Grail, Conan the Barbarian (original), Young Frankenstein, Blazing Saddles. Schools today don't teach them anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 12:08 PM (7eUg9)

When the daughter was in high school, she had a friend who would sleep over occasionally. One day we watch Evil Dead 2.

At one point Bruce Campbell, in the middle of a gruesome scene, said something or other, and both of them broke out in uproarious laughter.

I was so proud.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:11 PM (QBaJw)

85 Correct spelling and pronunciation is-"Chim-o-lee". It's been proved.

Posted by: Suffolk, VA Native at November 25, 2023 12:11 PM (83IzV)

86 PJ media- Nanzi's daughter admits Jan6 is a hoax

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 12:12 PM (fwDg9)

87 Because my son is older there's no problem with what he should do. He's trying to get some school work done which is due on Monday. I have to say, he's a very diligent student.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:13 PM (HYH4V)

88 Morning.

If you want something to watch with the kiddies watch That Girl With The Dogs groom this female German shepherd.

https://youtu.be/AzNua65PJPw

So much fur...

Posted by: Robert at November 25, 2023 12:13 PM (1Yy3c)

89 Well...the final game of the Toilet Bowl is at 1 today. AKA the Apple Cup.
The Cougs will look good for about a quarter, but there will be no "Cougin' It" this year. Then the Dawgs will flat out beat them.
The Huskies are just that good and deserve to be in the National Championship game.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 25, 2023 12:14 PM (uSHSS)

90 Thomas Jefferson must have been a time traveler…

Jefferson knew his Bible. He was not the godless icon the left wants him to have been.

“…there shall come a time, when they shall not endure sound doctrine; but according to their own desires they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears, and will indeed turn away from the truth, but will be turned unto fables.”— St. Paul (2 Timothy 4:3-4)

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 25, 2023 12:15 PM (olroh)

91 The stuff about Mayor Adam's is
because New York changed its statute of limitations just so that idiot Carrol could harass Trump.
As Jeremiah Wright said, "Dem Chickens be comin' Home to Roost!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 12:15 PM (7eUg9)

92 He's trying to get some school work done which is due on Monday. I have to say, he's a very diligent student.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

It's usually that the assignment was made over a month and a half ago and *must* be completed Monday!
(Well that was mostly true for me!)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 12:15 PM (r+I8w)

93 Look like all those riots worldwide got results. Israel got fucked.

Although the huge pro-Hamas riots in Western European European capitals was a significant factor in Geert Wilders utterly unexpected win in the Netherlands.

It is dawning on many Europeans that Western Europe will have to choose between Western democracy and an Islamic theocracy, and that the decision point is much closer than most people suspected.

If the Islamists win, Western Europe will become like Muslim Spain - the countryside will still be non-Muslim, but the cities and the political power will be controlled by Islam.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 12:16 PM (YAtuc)

94 19 If had kids they would be leaf collecting
Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 11:28 AM (fwDg9)
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Cut one of the maple trees down this year as we no longer have that free child labor thing for the big fall leaf adventure. Young adult kids strolled in at 2am last night - with six others. Neighbor dad sober cabbed them, texted wife and I that he was dropping off a van load of young drunkards and wished us luck. Sumbitch.... small town, so I know all of them/their parents. All good.

Posted by: scampydog at November 25, 2023 12:16 PM (41CYW)

95 Let's Go Blue!

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 12:18 PM (Eeb9P)

96 Jack Straw on twitter reported he died of his injuries. I'm trying to validate that report. Don't quote me - I'm easily confused. No kidding.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 25, 2023 12:09 PM (qoGsy)

Headline I saw this morning said he was stable.

But I guess dead is a form of stable, so... I didn't read the article.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:18 PM (QBaJw)

97 small town, so I know all of them/their parents. All good.
Posted by: scampydog

Nice supportive neighbor and 'nicely done' for you too!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 12:18 PM (r+I8w)

98 Prediction: OSU 34 Mich 10

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 12:19 PM (Eeb9P)

99 The 3 Terrorists for a woman or child hostage is making me mad but what can you do except no quarter ever more in a Hamas attack

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 12:19 PM (fwDg9)

100 "Why aren't we this thankful every day?"

It is a good question.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2023 12:20 PM (4tUZx)

101 Sam Bankman-Fried Reportedly Using Pouches of Fish as Currency in Jail
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 11:52 AM (FVME7)

Doesn't it stink after awhile ?
Posted by: JT at November 25, 2023 12:10 PM (T4tVD)

He says he misses the smell.

Posted by: Caroline Ellison at November 25, 2023 12:20 PM (QBaJw)

102 Later today, it's Roll Tide! and Bear Down!

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 12:21 PM (Eeb9P)

103 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 12:15 PM (r+I8w)

Well, that was probably true of me too-until I got into seminary-but he keeps on top of things. It's just that he has 18 credits so he's always working on something.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:21 PM (RSbhh)

104 Israeli officials have announced that military operations will restart at midnight if the hostages aren't freed (they were supposed to be released at 4 PM).

Four and a half hours from now.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 12:22 PM (YAtuc)

105 The 3 Terrorists for a woman or child hostage is making me mad but what can you do except no quarter ever more in a Hamas attack
Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 12:19 PM (fwDg9)

Well, if Israel didn't keep those goat-rapers alive in prison, they wouldn't be faced with this problem, would they? Capture them, try them, hang them. All in one day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 25, 2023 12:22 PM (a4qL7)

106 Airplane!, Life of Brian, and Idiocracy.

Posted by: More film classics at November 25, 2023 12:22 PM (NBVIP)

107 Out and about for lunch, decided to have some McDoanlds, nothing crazy just cheeseburgers.

Apparently they're now up charging 1.50 for unsweetened ice tea.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 25, 2023 12:02 PM (XV/Pl)

That 15 to 20 dollar minimum wage has caused real world problems. Damned politicians buying the youth vote with pot on the ballot, and the idiot vote with boosting the minimum wage to ridiculous levels.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 25, 2023 12:23 PM (iODuv)

108 The 3 Terrorists for a woman or child hostage is making me mad but what can you do except no quarter ever more in a Hamas attack

Some idiot on Sky News announced that the 3:1 exchange ratio showed that Israel valued Palestinian lives less than it valued Israeli lives.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 12:23 PM (YAtuc)

109 If talking about Derek just saw but didn't read was stable, but wouldn't put it past hospital personnel to finish the job already started.

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 12:23 PM (fwDg9)

110 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 25, 2023 12:15 PM (olroh)

Wasn't Jefferson a Deist (?) so I don't know what absurdities he was referring to, or maybe given the time period it was about the "absurdities" which came from the French Revolution?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:24 PM (RSbhh)

111 You should recognize that. They had a whole Bob’s Burgers episode on that ‘motivational’ saying.
Posted by: Drive by at November 25, 2023 11:54 AM (MNhXM)

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Oh, that's right. And all the millennials were just coming in and taking a picture of the poster rather than actually buying the poster. LOL.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 25, 2023 12:24 PM (LsAl1)

112 If the Israeli's stop again, Biden will sell them off as chattel

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 12:25 PM (Eeb9P)

113 Israeli officials have announced that military operations will restart at midnight if the hostages aren't freed (they were supposed to be released at 4 PM).

Four and a half hours from now.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 12:22 PM (YAtuc)

Let's see if they roll in at 11. Then we'll know they're serious.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:25 PM (QBaJw)

114 106 Airplane!, Life of Brian, and Idiocracy.
Posted by: More film classics at November 25, 2023 12:22 PM (NBVIP)

Strange Brew, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai, Napoleon Dynamite

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Moovie Critic at November 25, 2023 12:26 PM (PiwSw)

115 Strange Brew, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai, Napoleon Dynamite
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Moovie Critic at November 25, 2023 12:26 PM (PiwSw)

Remo Williams

Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2023 12:26 PM (bs+z0)

116 I should rephrase that. Biden will tell the Israelis to stop and sell them off as chattel

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 12:26 PM (Eeb9P)

117 I suspect part of the problem Isarel is facing is there is no single leadership speaking for Hamas. It would be like the cartels fighting Mexico...there are four or five clans who believe they are in charge. Several probably hold hostages.
It's a mess and the media will never let on.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 25, 2023 12:27 PM (uSHSS)

118 Wasn't Jefferson a Deist (?) so I don't know what absurdities he was referring to, or maybe given the time period it was about the "absurdities" which came from the French Revolution?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:24 PM (RSbhh)

Jefferson was a HUGE fan of the french revolution. Which of course, was as much a rebellion against the Church as it was the Monarchy.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

119 Prome.....

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Moovie Critic at November 25, 2023 12:28 PM (PiwSw)

120 It would be like the cartels fighting Mexico...there are four or five clans who believe they are in charge. Several probably hold hostages.

Worse than that - several organizations, like Palestinian Islamic Jihad, are holding hostages - Hamas doesn't control all the hostages.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 12:29 PM (YAtuc)

121 I should rephrase that. Biden will tell the Israelis to stop and sell them off as chattel
Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 12:26 PM (Eeb9P)

Too bad the Israelis couldn't keep Biden over there and sell HIM off for, uh, uh......compost.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 25, 2023 12:29 PM (iODuv)

122 We put the kids to work around the house. When young we'd put the dish towels and rags that had been washed and dried in a pile and have them fold. Didn't really matter how good a job it was. Then, we'd give them a rag and have them dust, run the vacuum, load/unload the dishwasher... pretty much all the crap we'd have to do.

The hated us for it.

But they're doing the exact same thing with their own kids.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 25, 2023 12:29 PM (Q4IgG)

123 Just saw video using a MA Deuce to go feral hogs hunting.
Why not a Oerlikon 20mm next?

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 12:31 PM (fwDg9)

124 Okay, I don't feel very nice today.
Getting the Medicare scam calls again. I can't wait for the enrollment period to pass.
So sounds like a live call center guy, right? No, recorded, given the responsed to my answers: "I'm not eligible for Medicare".
Then get a live person.
First words out of my mouth: "I hope a Hellfire missle hits your call center in India or Pakistan". Other end hangs up.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

125 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

he was initially, but when it was "bloody beheadings all the time" he lost his enthusiasm.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:31 PM (RSbhh)

126 >>> Hamas are forcing them to release prisoners at a 3:1 ratio

On one hand, Hamas actually has hostage-hostages, so why not not ask for everything while threatening to kill them, in for a penny, in for a pound.
On the other hand, they are the ones setting the exchange so low, so they are the ones putting a relatively higher value on Israeli life at 3:1.
Back to the first hand, why not shoot the moon? - Maybe they tried an Israel said F-U.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:31 PM (cOq4q)

127 Reporter: What's his condition Doc?

Doctor: He is dead, he died from a series of stab wounds to the liver, kidneys, and spine.

Reporter: So he is stable?

Doctor: barring resurrection or the Walking Dead being a documentary yes he is stable as in inert and held down by gravity.

Reporter: so how long until the decased is fully recovered?

Doctor: I do not know the date of the rapture sorry.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:32 PM (X0I7i)

128 I hope the ceasefire falls apart; Fox News reports it’s in peril for what they’re worth (not much)… Bibi had to know thru couldn’t be trusted…. Pound them some more!

I’d normally root for OSU in the Big Game but the NCAA is so blatantly going after Michigan in a biased way I’m actually pulling for the Wolverines…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 25, 2023 12:32 PM (xT8gx)

129 118 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

He was a bloodthirsty nutjob underneath it all I think, who advocated for bringing some French Revolution to the states.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:33 PM (X0I7i)

130 126 >>> Hamas are forcing them to release prisoners at a 3:1 ratio

On one hand, Hamas actually has hostage-hostages, so why not not ask for everything while threatening to kill them, in for a penny, in for a pound.
On the other hand, they are the ones setting the exchange so low, so they are the ones putting a relatively higher value on Israeli life at 3:1.
Back to the first hand, why not shoot the moon? - Maybe they tried an Israel said F-U.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:31 PM (cOq4q)

Used to be much higher, like 100:1. Desperate times, desperate measures.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:33 PM (ynpvh)

131 Posted by: More film classics at November 25, 2023 12:22 PM (NBVIP)

Strange Brew, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai, Napoleon Dynamite
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Moovie Critic at November 25, 2023 12:26 PM (PiwSw)

I love the comedy horror genre, but having trouble coming up with more than two I'd consider modern classics: The aforementioned Evil Dead 2, and Shaun Of the Dead.

It isn't a horror film, although sorta, but you could maybe put Fifth Element on my list.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:33 PM (QBaJw)

132 127 Reporter: What's his condition Doc?

Doctor: He is dead, he died from a series of stab wounds to the liver, kidneys, and spine.

Reporter: So he is stable?

Doctor: barring resurrection or the Walking Dead being a documentary yes he is stable as in inert and held down by gravity.

Reporter: so how long until the decased is fully recovered?

Doctor: I do not know the date of the rapture sorry.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:32 PM (X0I7i)

LOL

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:34 PM (ynpvh)

133 16 Thanksgiving weekend starts the dreaded Christmas Decorating at our house. It takes days. And days. I'm already about to throw up. Rev has Christmas OCD.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at November 25, 2023 11:27 AM (45fpk)

The wife and son are engaged in that very activity. I supervise from the couch.

My favorite part is when the lights work just fine, until you hang the garland. up.

Posted by: Javems at November 25, 2023 12:34 PM (8I4hW)

134 but the NCAA is so blatantly going after Michigan in a biased way I’m actually pulling for the Wolverines…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 25, 2023 12:32 PM (xT8gx)
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Same. First time in my life I'll be rooting for Mich football.

Posted by: scampydog at November 25, 2023 12:34 PM (41CYW)

135 Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Mitt Romney says he will vote for the Democrats if President Trump or Vivek is the nominee.

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Quelle surprise!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:35 PM (FVME7)

136 117 I suspect part of the problem Isarel is facing is there is no single leadership speaking for Hamas. It would be like the cartels fighting Mexico...there are four or five clans who believe they are in charge. Several probably hold hostages.
It's a mess and the media will never let on.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 25, 2023 12:27 PM (uSHSS)

The most amazing thing about this article isn't its content; it's that it was written in 2014, and everything is still relevant today, except that the AP is more corrupt now than it was then.

https://is.gd/WMw0Ce

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Moovie Critic at November 25, 2023 12:35 PM (PiwSw)

137 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

he was initially, but when it was "bloody beheadings all the time" he lost his enthusiasm.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:31 PM (RSbhh)

Others saw it coming, and he rather pig-headedly continued to back them long after it should have been clear this thing was NOT a continuation of the thing he and his compatriots accomplished here.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:36 PM (QBaJw)

138 Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Mitt Romney says he will vote for the Democrats if President Trump or Vivek is the nominee.

Well, he's a Dem in every aspect of his life except for the label, so there's that.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (qoGsy)

139 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

He was a bloodthirsty nutjob underneath it all I think, who advocated for bringing some French Revolution to the states.
Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:33 PM (X0I7i)

Also, considering what he was up to behind Washington's back, one could consider his actions treason.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (QBaJw)

140 I support Senator Romney and his rock-ribbed dedication to place the American People above partisan politics!

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (PiwSw)

141 The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Online rumors claimed the perpetrator of a stabbing attack was an immigrant. The BBC found that the man was an Irish citizen who had lived in the country for 20 years. Police blamed a “lunatic faction driven by a far-right ideology” for the riot in Dublin.

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Damn lunatic factions driven by a far-right ideology are always stirring up trouble!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (FVME7)

142 140 I support Senator Romney and his rock-ribbed dedication to place the American People above partisan politics!

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (PiwSw)

Well, Pierre does LOVE his hotdogs, no?

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:38 PM (ynpvh)

143 The NCAA has been told by the NFL that they need Harbough to coach the J E T S so, Harbough has been set up.

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 12:38 PM (Eeb9P)

144 Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Mitt Romney says he will vote for the Democrats if President Trump or Vivek is the nominee.

-
Quelle surprise!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:35 PM (FVME7)

As they say, whatever your opinion of Mitt Romney, it isn't low enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:38 PM (QBaJw)

145 I hope Harbaugh wins the National Championship, flips off the NCAA in a very public way then leaves for the NFL…. I’m childish sometimes

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 25, 2023 12:38 PM (xT8gx)

146 137 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:36 PM (QBaJw)

Like most American figures of the first 100 years he was a complicated fella.

You look at his enthusiasm and then peruse his private letters that made the cut into posterity looking for a renunciation and come up "lemons."

TJ- "My own affections have been deeply wounded by some of the martyrs to this cause, but rather than it should have failed, I would have seen half the earth desolated. Were there but an Adam and an Eve left in every country, and left free, it would be better than as it now is."

This was penned in 1798 IIRC after it was made plain that the Aristocrats who had literally given their wealth to foster liberty in this nation were the ones being murdered.

Yeah "complicated."

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:39 PM (X0I7i)

147 141 The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Online rumors claimed the perpetrator of a stabbing attack was an immigrant. The BBC found that the man was an Irish citizen who had lived in the country for 20 years. Police blamed a “lunatic faction driven by a far-right ideology” for the riot in Dublin.

-
Damn lunatic factions driven by a far-right ideology are always stirring up trouble!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (FVME7)

But AH was a Socialist, just a Nationalistic one, and Socialists are on the Left just right of the Commies...

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

148 I support Senator Romney and his rock-ribbed dedication to place the American People above partisan politics!

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (PiwSw)

Well, Pierre does LOVE his hotdogs, no?
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:38 PM (ynpvh)

I do think people underestimate how much sexual blackmail contributes to the dastardly actions of many of our politicians.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:39 PM (QBaJw)

149 144 Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Mitt Romney says he will vote for the Democrats if President Trump or Vivek is the nominee.

-
Quelle surprise!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:35 PM (FVME7)

As they say, whatever your opinion of Mitt Romney, it isn't low enough.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:38 PM (QBaJw)

I better start digging...

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

150 141 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (FVME7)

A fox living amongst the chickens for 20 years does not grow him feathers.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:40 PM (X0I7i)

151 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:36 PM (QBaJw)

Yes; It did take him too long to wake up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 12:40 PM (RSbhh)

152 Any relation between this Mayor Adams and Founder John Adams?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:40 PM (cOq4q)

153 Hope every Hamas Terrorist prisoner has Fake Vax and ever boster shot up to date, all of them at once if questioned

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 12:40 PM (fwDg9)

154 150 141 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (FVME7)

A fox living amongst the chickens for 20 years does not grow him feathers.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:40 PM (X0I7i)

But he can sure dress up in them, given how many chickens he's plucked...

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

155 Derek Chauvin getting stabbed nearly to death makes me sick to my stomach…. He may or may not be a nice guy but doesn’t deserve to be in prison much less stabbed to within an inch of his life…. Keith Ellison should be ashamed but he isn’t…. Banana republic stuff

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 25, 2023 12:41 PM (xT8gx)

156 139 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (QBaJw)

Washington had his number, essentially the democrats have been undermining the nation as founded since the founding and their antics against the Federalists not that the Federalists were angels show that this nation's cohesion has always been a near ran thing.

Frankly and horrifyingly in my eyes I am not certain it is for the best for the American people that the states remain united.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:42 PM (X0I7i)

157 144 Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Mitt Romney says he will vote for the Democrats if President Trump or Vivek is the nominee.

That says a lot about the others "running" for the Rep, nomination... Not exactly a ringing endorsement on their Conservative credentials

Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2023 12:42 PM (bs+z0)

158 That says a lot about the others "running" for the Rep, nomination... Not exactly a ringing endorsement on their Conservative credentials
Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2023 12:42 PM (bs+z0)

I'll take it!

Posted by: Asa Hutchinson at November 25, 2023 12:43 PM (PiwSw)

159 Online rumors claimed the perpetrator of a stabbing attack was an immigrant. The BBC found that the man was an Irish citizen who had lived in the country for 20 years.

In other words, an immigrant.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 12:44 PM (YAtuc)

160 Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.
Posted by: K.T
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Every week this statement just gets me itchin' to try.

Posted by: From about that Time at November 25, 2023 12:44 PM (4780s)

161 Mitt Romney says he will vote for the Democrats if President Trump or Vivek is the nominee.

That says a lot about the others "running" for the Rep, nomination... Not exactly a ringing endorsement on their Conservative credentials
Posted by: It's me donna at November 25, 2023 12:42 PM (bs+z0)

My tried and true method of determining what I should think is: I form an opinion exactly opposite of Romney…. If it worked for George Costanza it’s good enough for me…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 25, 2023 12:44 PM (xT8gx)

162 The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Online rumors claimed the perpetrator of a stabbing attack was an immigrant. The BBC found that the man was an Irish citizen who had lived in the country for 20 years. Police blamed a “lunatic faction driven by a far-right ideology” for the riot in Dublin.

-
Damn lunatic factions driven by a far-right ideology are always stirring up trouble!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:37 PM (FVME7)

PJ Watson, on the subject:

https://tinyurl.com/23cu4w6m

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:45 PM (QBaJw)

163 On the Chauvin thing, this is simply the finished product of the Saint Travon playbook.

Chauvin was successfully destroyed in a way that the movement did not get Zimmerman.

Here is a documentary on the conspiracy and hoax about St Traytable....

when the perps of that were not destroyed for conspiracy it became the new playbook.

https://youtu.be/fv2zVtslDSE?si=q65tcBn1Yx7OHVMS

There is an open air alliance between Soros Prosecutors and black supremacists in the pursuit of donk power.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:45 PM (X0I7i)

164 Re: the WaPo "fact check" - Uh, if the stabber had been an Irish citizen for 20 years, and he was more than 20 years old, that means he was an immigrant. That's why we have expressions like "first-generation immigrant."

As someone else so aptly put it, no matter how much you think you hate journalists, it's not enough.

Posted by: PabloD at November 25, 2023 12:46 PM (Kbbud)

165 Oh comment on old day old thread will get you banned before can comment again, trust me.

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 12:47 PM (fwDg9)

166 >>> The stuff about Mayor Adam's is
because New York changed its statute of limitations just so that idiot Carrol could harass Trump.
As Jeremiah Wright said, "Dem Chickens be comin' Home to Roost!"
Posted by: Tom Servo

A couple of years back, or decades, Michigan passed law because "Jack Kevorkian does things we don't like". Even though it not mention Jack by name it was tossed as a bill of attainder when they prosecuted Jack under it.
Now, I assume, Michigan could have successfully prosecuted anyone else under it that got caught in the Jack drag net, becuase they are not Jack and the law was not specifically passed to get them.

Since everyone appears to know that the NY law was to get Trump, anyone not Trump who gets caight up in it is screwed. But, Trump should not be because bill of attainder.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:48 PM (cOq4q)

167 164 Posted by: PabloD at November 25, 2023 12:46 PM (Kbbud)

What was the Irishman's name?

"We can't tell you that."

Yeah because it was not Shamrock Fucking O'Reilly.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (X0I7i)

168 This was penned in 1798 IIRC after it was made plain that the Aristocrats who had literally given their wealth to foster liberty in this nation were the ones being murdered.

Yeah "complicated."
Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:39 PM (X0I7i)

Probably accurate to say Jefferson would have fit in well with today's left. He was obviously a very smart fellow.

So is Valerie Jarrett.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (QBaJw)

169 Wasn't Jefferson a Deist (?)

Depends a lot on your definition of deism. Jefferson was his own man when it came to religion. Almost certainly heretical, but he did believe in God, he did believe Jesus existed, and he did believe the Bible was a “sublime” source of truth.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (olroh)

170 I accidentally commented on a closed thread once.
I cannot recommend the experience.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (tpCh3)

171 164 Re: the WaPo "fact check" - Uh, if the stabber had been an Irish citizen for 20 years, and he was more than 20 years old, that means he was an immigrant. That's why we have expressions like "first-generation immigrant."

As someone else so aptly put it, no matter how much you think you hate journalists, it's not enough.

Posted by: PabloD at November 25, 2023 12:46 PM (Kbbud)

Just remember:
1) they hid the sexual assaults of Clinton and Filner (Filner's were KNOWN for 30+ years) and continue to hide countless others.
2) they root for actual terrorists
3) they hate the constitution
4) they hide sexual assaults of children that could hurt the Dems
...
Indeed, there is a hope for a nice fire-and-brimstone judgment in the near future for them.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

172 170 I accidentally commented on a closed thread once.
I cannot recommend the experience.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (tpCh3)

Worse than the Barrel?

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

173 News Flash:

Uh Oh. Hamas delaying release of second batch of hostages. Says they want aid trucks to Northern Gaza. Israel says if hostages not released by midnight, war resumes. (remember 6 hr tiime deifference).

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 12:50 PM (t/2Uw)

174 141 The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Online rumors claimed the perpetrator of a stabbing attack was an immigrant. The BBC found that the man was an Irish citizen who had lived in the country for 20 years. Police blamed a “lunatic faction driven by a far-right ideology” for the riot in Dublin.

So....the child of an immigrant, or brought there as a child, then. Either way, his family's "roots" are decidedly those of "immigrants" from somewhere else.

You will note that the BBC doesn't mention his "religious" leanings or the schools/neighborhoods he attended/lived in.

Lies by omission are still lies.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AOS Ladies Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at November 25, 2023 12:52 PM (SRRAx)

175 >>> Used to be much higher, like 100:1. Desperate times, desperate measures.
Posted by: jim (in California)

That was what I was thinking.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:53 PM (cOq4q)

176 "172 170 I accidentally commented on a closed thread once.
I cannot recommend the experience.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (tpCh3)

Worse than the Barrel?
Posted by: jim (in California)"

The barrel was pleasant by comparison

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 25, 2023 12:53 PM (tpCh3)

177 That 15 to 20 dollar minimum wage has caused real world problems. Damned politicians buying the youth vote with pot on the ballot, and the idiot vote with boosting the minimum wage to ridiculous levels.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 25, 2023 12:23 PM (iODuv)

In my burg, minimum wage is under $10. But fast food pays $17-18. It’s market forces + inflation that have driven up wages not minimum wage laws. I don’t think any job pays minimum wage anymore. At least not in these parts.

Posted by: Montec at November 25, 2023 12:54 PM (bWsRe)

178 Lol BBC. So an immigrant who has lived in Ireland for 20 years and got citizenship . In other words still an immigrant.

Posted by: Montec at November 25, 2023 12:56 PM (bWsRe)

179 When I was a part of the family, my boys and I would shoot, play racquet sports during the holidays when they were home.

My “ex” would cook with them, and they turned out to be fabulous in the kitchen.

***sigh***

Posted by: browndog, who hates rhubarb pie at November 25, 2023 12:56 PM (FdRXM)

180 Derek Chauvin prison sentences, fyi, & back of the envelope potential release dates:

Ok. First off, he's serving concurrent state & fed sentences of 21 years.

In MN, inmates are eligible for release after serving two-thirds of his/her sentence, assuming the inmate earns maximum good time.

The fed situation is more complex. Federal inmates can earn up to 54 days/year in good time, which is 15%. Some, but not all, fed prisoners can receive additional "earned time" (different from "good time") for completing prison programs, such as Drug & Alcohol addiction prevention. Unfortunately for Chauvin, inmates convicted of murder (& certain other specified offenses) aren't currently eligible for "earned time" programs.

Given all that, Chauvin could be eligible for release on his state sentence after he serves another 10-11 years, appx. I calculate that as 21 years, minus one third (14 years). plus time served (about 3 years).

post to be continued, to avoid being mistaken for spam.

Posted by: mnw at November 25, 2023 12:56 PM (NLIak)

181 I knew Shamrock Fucking O'Reilly and you, sir, are no Shamrock Fucking O'Reilly!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:56 PM (FVME7)

182 Derek Chauvin getting stabbed nearly to death makes me sick to my stomach…. He may or may not be a nice guy but doesn’t deserve to be in prison much less stabbed to within an inch of his life…. Keith Ellison should be ashamed but he isn’t…. Banana republic stuff
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Anyone that hopes to be treated fairly if they ever should have the misfortune of being in a similar situation should be ashamed what has become of the justice system.
Chauvin will not be mourned or remembered for longer than it takes to post a comment, but, Floyd will, and that's what America has become.

Posted by: old chick at November 25, 2023 12:57 PM (sOete)

183 173 News Flash:

Uh Oh. Hamas delaying release of second batch of hostages. Says they want aid trucks to Northern Gaza. Israel says if hostages not released by midnight, war resumes. (remember 6 hr tiime deifference).
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 12:50 PM (t/2Uw)

I watch sources from Israel. The entire nation was overjoyed to at least get a few of the hostages back - and they all expect Hamas to screw them over and break the deal at some point. Be assured, every plane and every tank is all fueled up, and armed up, and ready to launch 30 seconds after that cease fire ends.

Israeli forces had advanced so quickly that they had become somewhat disorganized. The IDF has been using this break to reorganize, resupply, and plan for the next phase. They're ready.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 12:57 PM (i9ffA)

184 Uh Oh. Hamas delaying release of second batch of hostages. Says they want aid trucks to Northern Gaza. Israel says if hostages not released by midnight, war resumes. (remember 6 hr tiime deifference).
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 12:50 PM (t/2Uw)
---
No one should be surprised by Hamas' actions. They will *NEVER* honor the terms of an agreement to the letter or even in spirit.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 25, 2023 12:58 PM (BpYfr)

185 181 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 25, 2023 12:56 PM (FVME7)

The reason it went hot riot wise is multi-faceted but a good part of it is the Irish government has literally made not liking wave migration a hate crime and a 5 year time out.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:59 PM (X0I7i)

186 >>> Online rumors claimed the perpetrator of a stabbing attack was an immigrant. The BBC found that the man was an Irish citizen who had lived in the country for 20 years.

In other words, an immigrant.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

What? Maybe he was 20 and born there? A native born citizen.
Or a natural born citizen whatver that is but once was plain english and distinct from native.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:59 PM (cOq4q)

187 American Thinker- UN adopts 8 resolutions condemning Israel, 0 for Hamas
Syria sponsored bill vote 151 - 6

Shut down the UN and use it for housing

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 01:01 PM (fwDg9)

188 Anyone that hopes to be treated fairly if they ever should have the misfortune of being in a similar situation should be ashamed what has become of the justice system.
Chauvin will not be mourned or remembered for longer than it takes to post a comment, but, Floyd will, and that's what America has become.
Posted by: old chick at November 25, 2023 12:57 PM (sOete)

Then there are the McMichaels in Georgia.

Life, without the possibility of parole. Because a guy, who broke into a neighbor's house, decided to grab the barrel of the gun when they confronted him, and attempted a "citizen's arrest," which was legal in Georgia... at the time.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:01 PM (QBaJw)

189 They will *NEVER* honor the terms of an agreement to the letter or even in spirit.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

And *never* for over 15 minutes.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 25, 2023 01:02 PM (r+I8w)

190 The Irish PM sounds like a totally nice guy./sarc

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 01:02 PM (RSbhh)

191 So much football!! Longhorns win big last night. Now go huskies!
Posted by: LASue
===
I've never met a UConn football supporter. For good reason.

Posted by: From about that Time at November 25, 2023 01:02 PM (4780s)

192 I also think they have probably gotten more intelligence about where the hostages are being held by monitoring this release. Remeber, they have access to communications which is how they have been pinpointing where the leadership is at any given moment.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 01:03 PM (t/2Uw)

193 Stabby was a Muslim, lived in Ireland last 20 years but think was in 40s or 50yo. Came from some Muslim hell hole

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 01:03 PM (fwDg9)

194 Be assured, every plane and every tank is all fueled up, and armed up, and ready to launch 30 seconds after that cease fire ends.

Israeli forces had advanced so quickly that they had become somewhat disorganized. The IDF has been using this break to reorganize, resupply, and plan for the next phase. They're ready.

It's easy to dismiss Netanyahu as a stooge and a dupe, but it's pretty clear he intends to see this through. Perhaps we should give the people on "our side" a bit more leeway.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2023 01:03 PM (I/Qkd)

195 186 Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:59 PM (cOq4q)

The EUtopians unlike America have been quite plain ordinarily that people "not from around here" are "immigrants" for 3 to 5 generations.

Being an American I disagree, but there it is. I used to mock the Germans for having words for "3d generation immigrant." Thing is when you are not forcing the "newer better Germans" to be you know German what the hell else are they?

Shamrock Abdul O'Jihad cousin to Shamrock Fucking O'Reilly is not Irish in the way O'Reilly is no matter how much Klaud Schwab wants it to be accepted as such.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 01:04 PM (X0I7i)

196 4th&1 go for it!

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 01:04 PM (Eeb9P)

197 177 That 15 to 20 dollar minimum wage has caused real world problems. Damned politicians buying the youth vote with pot on the ballot, and the idiot vote with boosting the minimum wage to ridiculous levels.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 25, 2023 12:23 PM (iODuv)

In my burg, minimum wage is under $10. But fast food pays $17-18. It’s market forces + inflation that have driven up wages not minimum wage laws. I don’t think any job pays minimum wage anymore. At least not in these parts.

Posted by: Montec at November 25, 2023 12:54 PM (bWsRe)

Someone wanted me to sign for a measure that would increase wages for "Health Care Workers". I asked him what was defined as "Health Care"? He didn't know.
How are they going to pay for it? He didn't know
Yeah, while your at it, give everybody unicorns farting skittles, too.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

198 The reason it went hot riot wise is multi-faceted but a good part of it is the Irish government has literally made not liking wave migration a hate crime and a 5 year time out.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 12:59 PM (X0I7i)

I think Euros are mere years ahead of us on a lot of these things... and in some ways, we've surpassed them.

The West spent about 60 years believing we were the good guys, and everything we did was right and just, because we were doing it.

No. It's not. We're not.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:05 PM (QBaJw)

199 Stabby was a Muslim, lived in Ireland last 20 years but think was in 40s or 50yo. Came from some Muslim hell hole

Algeria.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (YAtuc)

200 The only way Bibi survives is to win the war. If he lets Biden run things, he, and Israel, will lose

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (Eeb9P)

201 >>> Stabby was a Muslim, lived in Ireland last 20 years but think was in 40s or 50yo. Came from some Muslim hell hole
Posted by: Skip

Spent half his life there, got there as a young adult, and didn't assimulate at all.
Might be a lesson for all nations there.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (cOq4q)

202 No one should be surprised by Hamas' actions. They will *NEVER* honor the terms of an agreement to the letter or even in spirit.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 25, 2023 12:58 PM (BpYfr)

These are the kind of animals that wine moms, the Harvard faculty and our "educated" 23 year-olds support. They're all Little Eichmanns.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (hiMh5)

203 Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 01:03 PM (fwDg9)

Yes; I think he was in his 40's and came from Algeria.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (RSbhh)

204 Someone wanted me to sign for a measure that would increase wages for "Health Care Workers". I asked him what was defined as "Health Care"? He didn't know.
How are they going to pay for it? He didn't know
Yeah, while your at it, give everybody unicorns farting skittles, too.
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

I'm overpaid. There, I said it. I won't admit it to my employer, but I am.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (QBaJw)

205 And *never* for over 15 minutes.

Hamas firing a rocket barrage fifteen minutes after the ceasefire was intended to send a message.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 25, 2023 01:07 PM (YAtuc)

206 187 American Thinker- UN adopts 8 resolutions condemning Israel, 0 for Hamas
Syria sponsored bill vote 151 - 6

Shut down the UN and use it for housing

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 01:01 PM (fwDg9)

You starve the beast by not funding it. But we're talking the ~~Obama~~ Biden admin, so they'll increase the funding, like they did for Iran and PA.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

207 It's easy to dismiss Netanyahu as a stooge and a dupe, but it's pretty clear he intends to see this through. Perhaps we should give the people on "our side" a bit more leeway.

Posted by: Archimedes

Never doubted for a minute. (-:

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 01:07 PM (t/2Uw)

208 I'm waiting for my wife's family (22 people) to arrive for 2nd Thanksgiving. We already had my family's TG on Thursday.

I'm very tired of TG at this point.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2023 01:08 PM (I/Qkd)

209 For long weekends, the important thing is to share the experience, so kids can hear your point of view. And some of the older ones might learn something without your input, too.

This is an everyday thing. The greatest parenting technique of all times is to eat together as a family. At least once per day. There doesn't have to be any agenda or pre-planned input - just conversation. Over time, over the years, stuff comes up & stuff comes out that open wholly new lines for conversations and input.

Do this: eat together. You will have an audience who still listens to you. Failure to do this is to send your kids out into the world unprepared, unpracticed, and unarmed which makes it a sure bet that they will succumb to the easy seductions of the Left. Why else do so many kids leave for college and come back as angry activists against everything that you are?

Be a family. That is the greatest gift you can give to your children, and and endless source for thanksgiving.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 25, 2023 01:09 PM (TOe+Q)

210 208 Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2023 01:08 PM (I/Qkd)

Family dynamics escape me I guess.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 01:09 PM (X0I7i)

211 Biden has been claiming VIctory for the cease fire - wonder what his team will say when it all blows up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 01:09 PM (i9ffA)

212 "172 170 I accidentally commented on a closed thread once.
I cannot recommend the experience.

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 25, 2023 12:49 PM (tpCh3)

Worse than the Barrel?
Posted by: jim (in California)"

The barrel was pleasant by comparison
Posted by: Erebus
---------

Yeah, I spent some time at Camp Banhammer also. Not pleasant.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 25, 2023 01:09 PM (XeU6L)

213 lCMS = ?
Liquid chromatography-Mass spec?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2023 01:10 PM (I/Qkd)

214 204 Someone wanted me to sign for a measure that would increase wages for "Health Care Workers". I asked him what was defined as "Health Care"? He didn't know.
How are they going to pay for it? He didn't know
Yeah, while your at it, give everybody unicorns farting skittles, too.
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

I'm overpaid. There, I said it. I won't admit it to my employer, but I am.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (QBaJw)

Are you Gov't paid, or company paid?

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

215 211 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 01:09 PM (i9ffA)

This unbalanced ceasefire failed because I created peace...

..Joey UnPluggzed

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 01:11 PM (X0I7i)

216 152 Any relation between this Mayor Adams and Founder John Adams?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 25, 2023 12:40 PM (cOq4q)

Only if a Sally Hemmings was involved way back when....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AOS Ladies Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at November 25, 2023 01:11 PM (SRRAx)

217 post 180 continues:

Chauvin's FEDERAL sentences total 252 months (21 yrs). Assuming he earns the maximum 15% good time, Chauvin would be eligible for release after serving an additional 14-15 years, i.e., 21 years minus 15% (17.8 years), minus time served (about 3 years).

The federal time remaining is greater than the state time remaining. (As stated his state & federal sentences are concurrent.)

A conservative POTUS (a GOP lame duck, most likely) could always reduce Chauvin's federal sentence, of course.

Chauvin is in his early 50's, I think.

For the record, my own opinion is that Chauvin was sentenced to way too much time, and that his state trial was unfair. The mob atmosphere should've been grounds for granting his change of venue motion.

Posted by: mnw at November 25, 2023 01:12 PM (NLIak)

218 215 211 Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 01:09 PM (i9ffA)

This unbalanced ceasefire failed because I created peace...

..Joey UnPluggzed

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 01:11 PM (X0I7i)

You mispelled piss. Time to change your depends again.

Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

219 210 208 Posted by: Archimedes at November 25, 2023 01:08 PM (I/Qkd)

Family dynamics escape me I guess.
Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 01:09 PM (X0I7i)

And I don't understand this "long weekend" thing. I'm not sure I've ever taken off the day after Thanksgiving.

Worked my arse off yesterday. Best thing about it was the extremely light traffic, both in the morning and evening.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:12 PM (QBaJw)

220 I'm overpaid. There, I said it. I won't admit it to my employer, but I am.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:06 PM (QBaJw)

Are you Gov't paid, or company paid?
Posted by: jim (in California) at November 25, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

It's a healthcare entity, so there's not really much difference.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:13 PM (QBaJw)

221 LCMS Rules are - there must be either 7, or 12 layers in the Layered Jello dish - no more, no less. 5 is anathema, 8 is Right Out, and 11? don't even try if you're not gonna do it right.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 25, 2023 01:13 PM (i9ffA)

222 That throw is why McCarthy is the best QB in the country

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 01:14 PM (Eeb9P)

223 Only if a Sally Hemmings was involved way back when....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AOS Ladies Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at November 25, 2023 01:11 PM (SRRAx)

Well, to ruin a good joke, Thom Jefferson was almost certainly not the father of any of Sally's kids.

Just another lie everyone believes.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:15 PM (QBaJw)

224 Your discussion of what to do with kids at home completely misses physical activities. Kids need time outdoors. Think this is why they seem to get ill more often than I remember my kids being sick growing up. Playground, hiking, jumping rope, playing hide and seek...whatever gets them moving. Go to the Y, swim, ride a bike, shoot some hoops. Just do it!

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 01:17 PM (t/2Uw)

225 For the record, my own opinion is that Chauvin was sentenced to way too much time, and that his state trial was unfair. The mob atmosphere should've been grounds for granting his change of venue motion.
Posted by: mnw at November 25, 2023 01:12 PM (NLIak)

Whatever they call it, it should have been charged (and yeah, convicted) of at worst some type of involuntary manslaughter, or reckless homicide, or whatever.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:18 PM (QBaJw)

226 BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:01 PM (QBaJw)

Hundreds of people are incarcerated for doing what is encouraged day in and day out to protect lives, property and some sense of civil accord, yet, they languish and die in prisons with just a frivolous comment to mark the worth of lives.
Not judged/tried on their perceived crime, but, on railroading via a system that choses winners and losers to pacify the violent, for the better good of the collective.

Posted by: old chick at November 25, 2023 01:19 PM (sOete)

227 Article about the Irish protests and what some of the protesters complaints are?

https://tinyurl.com/49spj23f

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 25, 2023 01:20 PM (RSbhh)

228 Except sure see.s St Floyd didn't due from anyway of the police officers did, he killed himself working himself up to a frenzy and OD on drugs.

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 01:20 PM (fwDg9)

229 Five minutes of flûte basse:
youtube.com/watch?v=VdShwziuxSU

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at November 25, 2023 01:21 PM (MvF+J)

230 223 Only if a Sally Hemmings was involved way back when....
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AOS Ladies Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at November 25, 2023 01:11 PM (SRRAx)

Well, to ruin a good joke, Thom Jefferson was almost certainly not the father of any of Sally's kids.

Just another lie everyone believes.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:15 PM (QBaJw)

Well, you know that, and I know that, but there are plenty of race hustlers out there who desperately must make people believe that one of the Founding Fathers slept with one of his slaves, because.....well, reasons, I guess.

Who can figure out their twisted logic these days?

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AOS Ladies Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at November 25, 2023 01:21 PM (SRRAx)

231 In my burg, minimum wage is under $10. But fast food pays $17-18. It’s market forces + inflation that have driven up wages not minimum wage laws. I don’t think any job pays minimum wage anymore. At least not in these parts.
Posted by: Montec at November 25, 2023 12:54 PM (bWsRe)

In NJ, our illustrious governor and his band of thieves in Trenton just raised the min wage again.

https://tinyurl.com/yur47ez6

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 25, 2023 01:21 PM (iODuv)

232
Keith Ellison should be ashamed but he isn’t…. Banana republic stuff
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Not just Ellison, but the Governor, and the 'kid' who was the Mayor, all pandered to the mob. That hour and a half video was worth every minute to figure out the story without a doubt. There was a flash frame of Floyd with something in his mouth, which from the toxicology report was most likely the final overdose of drugs that stopped his heart and killed him.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 25, 2023 01:22 PM (enJYY)

233 Going to take my own advice and go for a walk.
BBL

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 01:23 PM (t/2Uw)

234 More on NJ Min wage. As of January 1st 2023.

https://tinyurl.com/4y3j2sb3

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 25, 2023 01:25 PM (iODuv)

235 Hundreds of people are incarcerated for doing what is encouraged day in and day out to protect lives, property and some sense of civil accord, yet, they languish and die in prisons with just a frivolous comment to mark the worth of lives.
Not judged/tried on their perceived crime, but, on railroading via a system that choses winners and losers to pacify the violent, for the better good of the collective.
Posted by: old chick at November 25, 2023 01:19 PM (sOete)

One of those things used in the past to characterize a fascist society was the inconsistency of the application of "justice."

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:26 PM (QBaJw)

236 235 Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:26 PM (QBaJw)

If you go back and watch "Why We Fight" you'd find that America has not been doing so hot on about five of the bullet points since 2008.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 01:28 PM (X0I7i)

237 'One of those things used in the past to characterize a fascist society was the inconsistency of the application of "justice."'

Anarcho-tyranny. The govt deliberately elevates the rights of criminals above those of the law-abiding.

Posted by: Lithiated gp For Pep at November 25, 2023 01:28 PM (MvF+J)

238 226 Burt

All of my back-of-the-envelope calculations above cause me to believe that Chauvin would most likely be released when he's about 67 years old.

There's a saying among attys who do federal criminal practice that, "No-one understands how sentences are calculated, except the inmates."

There's a pretty good chance he could be released sooner. Some of the prison programs for which he's not currently eligible could be changed so that he would be eligible.

In my experience, fed inmates always somehow get released a few years earlier than originally thought.

Posted by: mnw at November 25, 2023 01:28 PM (NLIak)

239 Well, you know that, and I know that, but there are plenty of race hustlers out there who desperately must make people believe that one of the Founding Fathers slept with one of his slaves, because.....well, reasons, I guess.

Who can figure out their twisted logic these days?
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas, AOS Ladies Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at November 25, 2023 01:21 PM (SRRAx)

True, and that's why I think it's a pretty good joke, the original question as to whether da mayor is related to the Adams Family.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:28 PM (QBaJw)

240 GARDEN THREAD IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 01:28 PM (fwDg9)

241 Chauvin will die in prison

Posted by: Jamaica at November 25, 2023 01:31 PM (Eeb9P)

242 233 Going to take my own advice and go for a walk.
BBL
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 01:23 PM (t/2Uw)

Yay!

Posted by: m at November 25, 2023 01:31 PM (4tUZx)

243 233 Going to take my own advice and go for a walk.
BBL
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 25, 2023 01:23 PM (t/2Uw)

I need to do this, too.

Posted by: m at November 25, 2023 01:32 PM (4tUZx)

244 There's a saying among attys who do federal criminal practice that, "No-one understands how sentences are calculated, except the inmates."

There's a pretty good chance he could be released sooner. Some of the prison programs for which he's not currently eligible could be changed so that he would be eligible.

In my experience, fed inmates always somehow get released a few years earlier than originally thought.

Posted by: mnw at November 25, 2023 01:28 PM (NLIak)

I've worked with lots of folks who spent time in prison, including federal, and I think that's true. They know. Because they have to.

One guy I worked with, this was state, not federal, was imprisoned for something like 15 years. He'd been sentenced for two crimes... which state statutes clearly state cannot be used for the same act. One excludes the other.

The sentence for either crime, max, should have been somewhere around 10.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:33 PM (QBaJw)

245 The sentence for either crime, max, should have been somewhere around 10.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:33 PM (QBaJw)

Oh, and he found out because someone else in prison told him. Nobody in the system had any idea, until he filed a motion himself.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 01:34 PM (QBaJw)

246 One of those things used in the past to characterize a fascist society was the inconsistency of the application of "justice."
Posted by: BurtTC

I think we have passed needing any outright markers to know that our country is no longer a republic.
I doubt many citizens could even agree on the definition of justice, let alone the definition of lawful / unlawful.

Posted by: old chick at November 25, 2023 01:37 PM (sOete)

247 I can't wait for AI to be programmed and directed to taking over the narrative on the twitters.

No one will know wtf is really happening.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 25, 2023 01:42 PM (2QTfF)

248 Burt

Fed inmates continue to be represented either by Fed Public Defenders, or by private counsel, during post conviction appeals, & Sentence Guidelines revision motions.

I'd like to continue discussing some other aspects of Chauvin's situation, but this thread is NOOD, and Gardening & Puttering doesn't seem like a promising place to continue, either.

Posted by: mnw at November 25, 2023 01:49 PM (NLIak)

249 Seen a few places on line about a HS teacher found out on a FB page holding a Stand With Israel sign was running for her life from the student mob. Will probably have to quit and go into hiding is my guess, if not they will do to her serious harm

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 01:50 PM (fwDg9)

250 Are we sure Pouches of Fish is not a new cryptocurrency?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 25, 2023 11:55 AM

Dunno. Good name for your band, though.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 25, 2023 01:55 PM (11eZV)

251 Seen a few places on line about a HS teacher found out on a FB page holding a Stand With Israel sign was running for her life from the student mob. Will probably have to quit and go into hiding is my guess, if not they will do to her serious harm
Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023

Where did these children get the impression they understand anything. It won't happen but they should be expelled from school and not be allowed into any college or university.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 25, 2023 01:56 PM (dmOwh)

252 Seen a few places on line about a HS teacher found out on a FB page holding a Stand With Israel sign was running for her life from the student mob.

Generations of leftist indoctrination seems to be bearing the rotten fruit that was the inevitable end result.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 25, 2023 01:56 PM (V8he0)

253 Chauvin isn't really analogous to Zimmerman, as you can debate whether or not Zimmerman had any business being out and about with his pistol trying to keep his neighborhood safe. I say yes but it is debateable. Chauvin was doing his job when St. George finally kicked it as a result of his Bad Decisions lifestyle.

Posted by: Azjaeger at November 25, 2023 02:05 PM (3/XaG)

254 And personally I won't consume.any McDonald's anymore. So much pressure to keep the prices down and the profits up, and huge enough that who knows what the stuff is made of anymore? Its not like the junta is going to stop them. Years ago it simply stopped tasting right and many people say it upsets their stomach after they eat it. Best to avoid

Posted by: Azjaeger at November 25, 2023 02:08 PM (3/XaG)

255 253 Posted by: Azjaeger at November 25, 2023 02:05 PM (3/XaG)

The facts of the cases are wildly divergent as they would have to be.

The legit conspiracy to play games with the course of justice by race hustler inc and democrat politicians is damn near exactly the same.

Both were coincidentally right near political campaigns.

Posted by: sven at November 25, 2023 02:09 PM (X0I7i)

256 Anything in establishment media is an op. One of the reasons I dread 2024 is that I have no idea what they are capable of pulling this time.

Posted by: Azjaeger at November 25, 2023 02:14 PM (3/XaG)

257 I accidentally commented on a closed thread once.
I cannot recommend the experience.
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale
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Worse than the Barrel?
Posted by: jim (in California)"
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The barrel was pleasant by comparison
Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale

I have a crayon eating Marine friend that's mildly Ace curious. Occasionally, I'll post from his wifi while visiting on an old thread just to eff with him by getting his Comcast Iap banned. He doesn't post too often and most assuredly doesn't understand why he's cannot post occasionally after I visit. I just tell him he said somethung offensive and to reset his router and try again. Is fun. He's very deserving of this treatment too. I should prolly get him a 64 count set of crayons for christmas just as an appology, he's eaten the last set of crayons I gave him.

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 25, 2023 02:43 PM (3CCua)

258 Pondered a few time I got on a wi- fi to get any future lookers banned buy then think Ace needs the traffic

Posted by: Skip at November 25, 2023 02:47 PM (fwDg9)

259 what to do to keep the chilluns busy?

Hunting.
Deer, upland birds...Ducks...Turkey.
If they don't fall asleep in the woods they will Wake Up their senses and to the world around them.

Posted by: birddog at November 25, 2023 03:22 PM (1E8/t)

260
Yea, Alabama! Drown 'em Tide!
Every 'Bama man's behind you,
Hit your stride.
Go teach the Bulldogs to behave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave.
And if a man starts to weaken,
That's a shame!
For Bama's pluck and grit have
Writ her name in Crimson flame.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2023 03:47 PM (aD39U)

261
Fight on, fight on, fight on men!
Remember the Rose Bowl, we'll win then.
Go, roll to victory,
Hit your stride,
You're Dixie's football pride,
Crimson Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Tide!!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 25, 2023 03:47 PM (aD39U)

262 Massive failure by Israeli intelligence. Two analysts reported that an attack was coming and higher up did not pass the report on dismissing it as fantasy.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 25, 2023 04:16 PM (INMky)

263 Just watched the Biden Bowl...played in Ann Arbor Michigan.
Ohio State won by 1pt in a close game...
BUT Michigan claimed the win due to a broken play in the end zone early on that was "Adjudicated" as "Completed", counted, giving them 7points more.

Posted by: birddog at November 25, 2023 04:29 PM (1E8/t)

264 What to do with kids:

1. Enter the room with authority. Declare, "I'm in charge now, and things are going to be VERY, very different."
2. Say with all your heart: "If there's anything I CAN'T STAND, it's the LAUGHTER of CHILDREN."
3. Glower around the room until the children start laughing.

Posted by: Tom Perry at November 25, 2023 07:28 PM (MX0bI)

265 My nieces and nephews call it "Math Vacation."

Posted by: Florida Vermont at November 25, 2023 10:27 PM (sYx01)

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Would you be interested in exchanging links or maybe guest writing a
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