What time is it?

Schiphol clock

Well, tonight will be the night most of us turn our clocks back, if we still have any clocks that don't turn back automatically. What do you think of the man inside the clock adjusting the time above? Here is another guy in action in a similar clock outside Paddington Station.

There have been some development in the past few weeks that have made me wonder what time it is in a different sense. Steven Hayward has put up his American Kristallnacht edition of the Powerline Week in Pictures.

I think he missed this:

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Why did the Hamas attack catch Israel by surprise?

A different concept of death

An interview with author and intellectual Paul Berman about Hamas's ideology and Western blindness.

Editor's note: The following interview was originally published in German translation by Swiss daily newspaper Neue Zurcher Zeitung on October 24th. . .

The interview was conducted by Andreas Scheiner.

Some excerpts:

PB: The Israelis thought they had introduced a kind of language to communicate with Hamas. Hamas commits a terrible act and the Israelis retaliate. They know they can bomb this or that, but not more because that would break the implicit deal. For some years, the Israelis thought that Hamas had entered into this comparatively uncomplicated form of war.
AS: The Israelis became careless?
PB: Yes, even Netanyahu, who always presented himself as the sophisticated realist who, unlike the naive liberals, understands the fundamentalism of the movements that attack Israel. But he turned out to be the same kind of naive fool that he used to rail against.
AS: He forgot that Hamas has a different concept of death?
PB: You see, Hitler also had a different concept of death. Hitler didn't want to force his enemies, who were the Jews, into an agreement; he wanted to exterminate his enemies. In the end, he and the top leaders of the Nazi party committed suicide. So, he wanted his enemies to die, and if they didn't die, he wanted himself and his entourage to die. Which is not so far from the Hamas idea. Hamas has learned quite a bit from the Nazi idea.
AS: You need to explain that.
PB: Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood emerged in the 1930s as an Islamic fundamentalist renewal movement, but it became a mass movement by absorbing a number of European ideas. Mussolini and Hitler wanted to "cleanse" society by resurrecting the Roman Empire in some kind of modern version. Hassan al-Banna was the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, and he entertained a similar cleansing fantasy, only, in his case, he wanted to revive the Islamic empire of the Prophet Mohammed.

Well, to me, this makes the behavior of students on some of our campuses more worrisome. Do any of them have a "cleansing fantasy"? "By Any Means Necessary"? Why is there a worldwide antisemitism surge?

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The two Hamas Charters

Helen Dale regularly challenges institutional preconceptions. Here is a book review which describes some ways she has done this in the past, in reference to grievance studies. Anyway, she decided to look into differences between the two editions of the Hamas Charter in a Twitter thread, and some other folks joined in. Also refer to the interview above concerning how the Muslim Brotherhood has absorbed some European ideas.

The 2017 Hamas Charter is the wildest mashup of Islam and decolonisation/postcolonial theory, worth reading if nothing else to show the extent to which people can get high on their own supply.
In this context, be aware that (unlike Christianity), Islam has no doctrine of original sin, which means the sort of whiny "poor me + pity the victims/oppressed" arguments that fly in Christianity and Christian-derived intellectual movements (Wokery is one) don't really work in combination with it.
The Koran places the onus on individuals for their actions, regardless of their group affiliation or whether they are oppressed or not. Q74:38: "Every soul is a pledge for what it has earned"; Q53:38: "No burdened person shall bear the burden of another".

That's the revised (2017) charter, designed to be more palatable to potential 'progressive' allies.
The original 1988 version is a nasty piece of work.

The 1988 version is framed and argued using conventional Islamic doctrines, yes. Those doctrines are at least relatively stable. Islam is 1400 years old; its internal cleavages and disputes are readily available to anyone who's curious.
In my view, the 2017 version is dangerous precisely because it's designed to drag in Western support, even if theological absurdity is a byproduct.

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The American Front

An American friend asked me yesterday where I thought our greatest dangers lie. Getting bogged down in Gaza? The northern front, facing Hezbollah and the Iranian militias in Syria? The soon-to-be nuclear Iran? Another intifada in Judea and Samaria? Violent riots by Arab citizens of Israel?
None of those, I said. The greatest danger facing Israel today is from the Americans.
My friend was surprised. How is that possible? President Biden expressed his full support for Israel, and is supplying us with weapons and ammunition, and has sent significant naval forces to our region. He threatened Iran against intervening. Congress just overwhelmingly passed a resolution of support for Israel. What more do I want?
So I explained that the problem with America is the same problem that we had here in Israel until October 7. It is the conseptzia, the stubborn resistance to the reality that is behind the conflict that has been going on for at least a century, and of which the butchery on Simchat Torah was just the most recent flareup.

You can read the particulars of the resistance to reality and some interesting history at the link. Here are some of the author's conclusions:

. . . To be Palestinian is to suffer from the nakba, and to dream of reversing and avenging it.
During the 1960s, the Soviets encouraged Palestinian nationalism, adding to it some spices of Marxism-Leninism, and presenting the Palestinians to the world as an oppressed third-world people fighting a war of national liberation against European colonialism. Later we had the "Zionism is racism" resolution in the execrable UN, followed by the 2001 anti-racism summit in Durban, South Africa, which emphasized this theme (despite its complete inapplicability to the conflict), leading to today's accusations of "apartheid." Despite all this, which is mostly intended to make Western liberals comfortable with idea of wiping Israel off the map, the Palestinian consciousness still centers on the shame of the nakba.
The honor lost in 1948, and which has continued throughout "the occupation" (to Palestinians this means the period of Jewish sovereignty that began in 1948 ) , can only be recovered by reversing the nakba, bringing back all those who fled in 1948 and their descendants, and establishing Palestinian sovereignty over the land. It is also a religious imperative to restore rule by Muslims. Finally, the shame of what has occurred is so great, that the reversal must be accomplished with great violence. Only if the land runs with blood can the accumulated insults of the last 75 years finally be avenged.

This is Palestinian culture. This is what separates Palestinians from other Arabs and Muslims, many of whom can accept the existence of a Jewish state. With various modifications and different emphasis, this is what every Palestinian child learns in school, whether in a Hamas or UNRWA school in Gaza, or a PA school in Judea/Samaria. It is even to a great degree taught to Arab citizens of Israel in the Israeli Arab educational system. It is what Palestinians hear from their leaders, in their mosques, on the TV and radio, and in their newspapers and social media. It's what Palestinians say in Arabic, and often in English too.
Certainly there are Palestinians for whom economic goals are important; there are secular ones and Christians; and there are those who hate violence and believe in democracy. There is opposition to Hamas in Gaza and to the PA in Judea/Samaria. But the basic ideas are unchallenged - they are pervasive in the culture itself. They are the conventional wisdom, the motherhood and apple pie of Palestinians, and some form of them is accepted by the great majority. Polls consistently show that most Palestinians favor armed resistance against Israel, and elections are almost always won by the most radical candidate. If that isn't enough, Palestinian values are often enforced by men with guns.
So that is why the ultra-violent massacre in the south was cheered by Palestinians everywhere. And that is why the propositions of the conseptzia are false. Honor/shame and religion are at the top of the list of motivators for the Palestinians. Palestinians have consistently chosen violence over statehood, and weapons over economic development. They are not frustrated because they don't have an independent state - they are infuriated because we have one on what they believe is their property. If we give them money for development, they will take it (and skim off plenty from the top for the benefit of their leadership). But the PA will always pay terrorists and their families, and Hamas will not stop building tunnels and rockets.
The Palestinians can't be bought off and they can't be persuaded that it is in their interest to live at peace alongside a Jewish state. The various factions have different strategies and tactics, but their ultimate objective is the same: Israel must disappear.
The Americans are dangerous, because they don't or won't accept this. . .

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Gaza was an open-air prison before October 7

Remember that "refugee camp" where Israeli bunker busters collapsed tunnels and caused some dramatic damage and deaths? It was established when the Egyptians controlled Gaza. When the Israelis occupied Gaza, they tried to modernize some of those squalid neighborhoods and were rebuffed.

Gaza is not an "open-air prison" for everyone. Roll the video.

@CBSNews @CBS ever heard of research or background checks of your interviewees? Seriously, what a joke. This Gazan girl lives more of a luxury lifestyle than half of the world�s population. 😳#therealgaza https://t.co/GXUOHEGBBZ
— Maureen (@moweezle) October 17, 2023

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Music

Hungarian Dances played by youths in Poland

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, October 28, Just TEN wishes?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:11 AM

Comments

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1 First!

Posted by: Reforger at November 04, 2023 11:16 AM (VZPAA)

2 I nooded.

Posted by: Reforger at November 04, 2023 11:17 AM (VZPAA)

3 I changed the clocks today. Stop me !

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 11:18 AM (V13WU)

4 good stuff there , KT.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 11:24 AM (V13WU)

5 I have a feeling that the cleanup that started 20 years ago, is not done. Kinda like the period between 2 WWs. Some "things" were left incomplete shall we say. And we are seeing the result.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 11:29 AM (V13WU)

6

Palestinians are the Haitians of Somalia...

Posted by: Ped Xing at November 04, 2023 11:29 AM (HfIKs)

7 The past 5 weeks have been as enlightening to me as the events after 9/11 were. Religion of peace my ass end. It's a death cult of sub human filth and way too many in the US support it. My husband's who's forays into current events typically revolve around the financial markets has even noticed that anti-Semitism is rampant in the US. How far we have fallen and I don't see a cure. Will it progress to fighting in our streets? I don't know, however I see a strong likelihood that it will happen. I never thought that the antifa crap would happen and yet it did. So discouraging. The only bright spot is that this might fracture the progs. How long can they stand up for tlaib without blowback?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 04, 2023 11:31 AM (2NHgQ)

8
The earth rotates and sunrise occurs followed by sunset everyday.
Changing the time backwards and forwards is, and has always been, a sham, let time take its course.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 04, 2023 11:33 AM (/d595)

9 Heh. One thing the Queers for Palestine will have going for them is the lack of tall buildings in Gaza. Of course, they'll still have to worry about stonings.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 04, 2023 11:33 AM (0EOe9)

10 Hungarian Dances played by youths in Poland
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I don't get it. No purple hair, no tattoos. What a dull bunch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2023 11:34 AM (XeU6L)

11 China advocates Egypt nationalizing Gazites and giving the land to Egypt.

China’s imperial model and the Muslim World

As Zhang, the professor quoted above, observes, China could play a pivotal role in the refugee crisis.
...Egypt should annex Gaza, and resolve the refugee crisis by naturalizing the Gazans.
...
that is something that China, working together with the Gulf States, could solve. China already is deeply engaged in Egypt, building infrastructure and a new high-tech city.
https://is.gd/1Vzzbw

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 11:34 AM (jRxrY)

12 I found a very good rundown as to how Israeli defenses failed on Oct 7, very specific. Short version, it was a harsh lesson about overreliance on Tech and an underuse of Humint; and this overreliance on tech led to great overconfidence which Hamas was able to exploit ruthlessly. Also, Hamas understood the Israelis far better than the Israelis understood them, and used that effectively.

Just one example of the devilishly clever strategy Hamas used; Israel had established towers with sensors and automated machine guns along it's border to monitor against any invasion. sounds effective, right? Except every one of these towers was hit either by a drone or an RPG within the first 15 minutes of the attack, and suddenly Israel had a completely unmonitored border. And by the time they reacted to that, Hamas was already on top of them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 11:35 AM (S6gqv)

13 Hubby put on The Quiz Lady on tv
So far, hilarious

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 04, 2023 11:35 AM (vHIgi)

14 ...Egypt should annex Gaza, and resolve the refugee crisis by naturalizing the Gazans.
...

One small problem: neither Egypt nor anyone else wants those lazy lunatics.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2023 11:36 AM (I/Qkd)

15 Heh. One thing the Queers for Palestine will have going for them is the lack of tall buildings in Gaza. Of course, they'll still have to worry about stonings.

If the paleosimians had a sense of humor they'd play this at the stonings:

https://youtu.be/7LCYZtGqaLs

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 04, 2023 11:36 AM (Bd6X8)

16 I have been working on my addiction to hiking. I'm getting better but I'm not out of the woods yet.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 11:37 AM (uSHSS)

17 Do any of them have a "cleansing fantasy"?

There was a pic here this week of a student/child carrying a homemade sign with that sentiment. The original I think, 'judenfrei'.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 11:38 AM (jRxrY)

18 As Zhang, the professor quoted above, observes, China could play a pivotal role in the refugee crisis.
...Egypt should annex Gaza, and resolve the refugee crisis by naturalizing the Gazans."

The only flaw in this plan is that every time someone asks the Egyptians about this, they say "oh HELL no!!!"

in fact Egypt this week moved a line of M-60 tanks up to back up the Rafah crossing, just to emphasize the "Oh HELL no!" part of their position.

forgotten fact about the Camp David accords - Israel offered to give Gaza back to Egypt along with the Sinai, and Egypt said "how stupid do you think we are? YOU keep it!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 11:39 AM (S6gqv)

19 14 ...Egypt should annex Gaza, and resolve the refugee crisis by naturalizing the Gazans.
...
One small problem: neither Egypt nor anyone else wants those lazy lunatics.
Posted by: Archimedes
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The heavy Chinese influence in Egypt was the most interesting part.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 11:43 AM (jRxrY)

20 bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 04, 2023 11:33 AM

Hamas threw members of the Palestinian Authority off roofs when they took over Gaza in 2007. Then dragged their bodies through the streets.

Posted by: KT at November 04, 2023 11:44 AM (rrtZS)

21 14 Lazy lunatics. That seems to go Arab wide. I was doing my handyman thing, and my Polish landlady's SIL was flipping houses. Iranian guy married to a Pole. Go figure. Anyway, he'd
get these bums, mostly Iraqis for cheap labor. Erie PA took in a bunch of the layabouts. I'm on top of a forty foot ladder they're supposed to be steadying, look down and these idiots are having tea and a picnic lunch. Same gang that would sleep all day during Ramadan for the fasting loophole.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 04, 2023 11:45 AM (0EOe9)

22 Fifth year dental student?

Ahhhh, maybe she could perform a root cause analysis rather than gumming up the works. She claims the Gazans are destined for a life of indentured servitude. The UN should give her a plaque.

Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 11:46 AM (991eG)

23 Dental student? Hmmm interesting for an open air prison.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 11:47 AM (bWsRe)

24 I wonder sometimes if queers for Palestine is just one massive troll.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 11:48 AM (bWsRe)

25 I have been working on my addiction to hiking. I'm getting better but I'm not out of the woods yet.
Posted by: Diogenes

*******

I think you will find it an uphill struggle., but just put one foot in front of the other.

Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 11:49 AM (991eG)

26 Iran's current dickhead, Khameini, recently said in a speech that Death to Israel and Death to the US are not Iranian slogans, but the actual goal.

When somebody repeated tells you they want to kill you, you should probably pay attention. And apparently US Jews have finally caught on, and are buying guns & ammo & getting firearms training. Progress! Now, if only they'd twig to the fact that Dems are not their friends.

Next up, I'll attempt a poor job of explaining the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 04, 2023 11:50 AM (zHuJr)

27
So Buffy Sainte-Marie ain't a Canadian Cree...

Take it away, Muldoon.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2023 11:51 AM (j4U/Z)

28 they are only good at sneak attacks and terrorism against women and children. when faced with an army , they try to run away hiding in ambulances. for a long time the best arab army in the ME was...Iraqi under Hussein. yep, that was the best they could manage.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 11:52 AM (V13WU)

29 I have been working on my addiction to hiking. I'm getting better but I'm not out of the woods yet.
Posted by: Diogenes

********

Have you consulted a pathologist?

Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 11:52 AM (991eG)

30 One question I never hear asked: if Israelis are hell bent on ethnic cleansing why haven’t they killed the million Arab Israeli citizens yet?

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 11:53 AM (bWsRe)

31 26 If our local Jewish Center (not a synagogue) wasn't loaded with a bunch of real squirrels, super reformed type, I would call and see if somebody in need needed a little 9mm protection for free.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 04, 2023 11:54 AM (0EOe9)

32 Yes, the biggest threat to Israel is the U.S. of A.

I'm not reading that long missive from somebody who's apparently overthinking this. The reason the U.S. of A. is the biggest threat to Israel is the same reason it's the biggest threat to everyone in the world, including Americans: We're governed by evil people, with ill intentions.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 11:54 AM (QBaJw)

33 In 1947 the Palis could have had a country, could have been trading partners with Israel and today they’d all be rich and happy. They chose…poorly.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 11:55 AM (bWsRe)

34 FBI Foils What Could've Been a Horrific Terror Attack in Houston By a Radical Jordanian
(they learn our customs, mannerisms and to speak English very well, they can pass as an everyday person)
https://is.gd/8jJaTJ

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 11:57 AM (jRxrY)

35
*I have been working on my addiction to hiking. I'm getting better but I'm not out of the woods yet.*

It's an uphill climb.

Posted by: Kinda like Gilligan's place at November 04, 2023 11:57 AM (NBVIP)

36 So Buffy Sainte-Marie ain't a Canadian Cree...

Buffy had an odd fascination
With the Canadian Cree population
but her authentic status
Went "Poof!", just like flatus
A figment of her imagination

Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 11:57 AM (991eG)

37 I learned everything I needed to know about Islam during the Munich Olympics. I completed my advanced studies since.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2023 11:57 AM (o2ZRX)

38 Next up, I'll attempt a poor job of explaining the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 04, 2023 11:50 AM (zHuJr)

That one is actually simple. Islamic teachings say that 3 'Holy Cities' will be destroyed by fire, before the Last Iman comes.... so... you need 'Holy Cities' that you can destroy by fire, to bring him on.

And Yes, there is a strain of Islam who are actively trying to bring on the end times.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 11:58 AM (xaFKb)

39 @22 I am enamelled of her commitment, but just don't find it very filling.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 11:58 AM (4PZHB)

40 Fifth year dental student?

Ahhhh, maybe she could perform a root cause analysis rather than gumming up the works. She claims the Gazans are destined for a life of indentured servitude. The UN should give her a plaque.
Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 11:46 AM (991eG)

There it is.

Whenever you take time away from the AoSHQ, a cavity is left behind.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 11:59 AM (QBaJw)

41 35
*I have been working on my addiction to hiking. I'm getting better but I'm not out of the woods yet.*

It's an uphill climb.

Or a downward spiral.

Posted by: The abyss at November 04, 2023 12:00 PM (NBVIP)

42 Al Aqsa mosque is the 3rd holiest site in the Islamic world. And it is based on a fairy tale -- Muhammed supposedly climbed aboard his magic flying horse one night and flew from Medina to Jerusalem, then flew back the same day/night. No reports that this supersonic flying unicorn was shitting skittles during the flights.

There you have it. My poor understanding is probably missing pieces, so please correct any errors etc etc etc, but I think that's the gist of the mosque's founding.

Thanks for the thread, KT.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 04, 2023 12:01 PM (zHuJr)

43 37 I learned everything I needed to know about Islam during the Munich Olympics. I completed my advanced studies since.
Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2023 11:57 AM (o2ZRX)

I learned everything I needed to know about Islam, Iran, and OUR OWN FUCKING GOVERNMENT... 40 years ago during the Beirut Marine Barracks Bombing.

We knew, and did nothing... except invade a crappy little Island in the Caribbean so we'd look tough. Oh, and to add insult to injury? The ships who invaded Grenada were right then, supposed to be sailing to Lebanon to relieve us on station...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 12:01 PM (xaFKb)

44 >>> Heh. One thing the Queers for Palestine will have going for them is the lack of tall buildings in Gaza. Of course, they'll still have to worry about stonings.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Even one story is enough if one is willing to keep doing it until it works.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 12:02 PM (cOq4q)

45 And Yes, there is a strain of Islam who are actively trying to bring on the end times.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 11:58 AM (xaFKb)

The strain of 'End of Days' types- those who wish for it- covers a lot of territory. Shakers, Manicheans, Climate alarmists, the people who made Life after People, people who want to live in the Fallout universe (and not for the cool retro-futurism and deco trimmings.) The zombie craze.

It's all part and parcel of the same thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

46 What are the units of measure on the Islamic holiness scale?

Posted by: I would like to know at November 04, 2023 12:03 PM (NBVIP)

47 Where's the link for the quotations below "The American Front?"

Am I missing something?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...anti-Semite at November 04, 2023 12:04 PM (3Gtis)

48 Israel was caught buy surprise mostly because they had relatively just before the attack reached an agreement with Hamas to cease attacks.

Also they had holes in their tech defense that Hamas took advantage of.

Posted by: Drive by at November 04, 2023 12:04 PM (MNhXM)

49 I have been working on my addiction to hiking. I'm getting better but I'm not out of the woods yet.
Posted by: Diogenes

Sorry to hear. I suggest you just stroll with it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 04, 2023 12:04 PM (/d595)

50 How Abuayyash was able to get firearms is a detail that will be revealed in time, but yes—he shouldn’t have been able to purchase or possess any firearm on a non-immigrant visa.

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Thank goodness the FBI stopped the attack with the guns that he wasn't able to legally purchase.

(I'm guessing Daniel Defense)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at November 04, 2023 12:04 PM (kIrFD)

51 For them to say the essence of their existence is to eliminate the Jew is the same as saying they exist to eliminate Western Civilization.

What is the proper response to that?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (jRxrY)

52 Last night

Me to kid as kid is heading out with friends to watch HS football game : take a jacket it’s going to be cold by the time the game starts

Kid: I’m fine I don’t need a jacket

90 mins later, kid comes home

Me: why are you back so soon

Kid: it’s freezing outside

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (bWsRe)

53 @46 That must be the millizabeba.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (4PZHB)

54 So supposedly we are expected to see a 15 to 20% jump in crime because of the time change.

Posted by: Drive by at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (MNhXM)

55 The strain of 'End of Days' types- those who wish for it- covers a lot of territory. Shakers, Manicheans, Climate alarmists, the people who made Life after People, people who want to live in the Fallout universe (and not for the cool retro-futurism and deco trimmings.) The zombie craze.

It's all part and parcel of the same thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:02 PM (zZu0s)

I was going to argue that at least with other movements they are not in charge of governments... but then... I remembered the EPA.... shit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (xaFKb)

56 Posted by: GnuBreed at November 04, 2023 12:01 PM (zHuJr)

So Jerusalem must be mentioned a lot in the Koran....

Right?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...anti-Semite at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (3Gtis)

57 So, Ms. Sainte-Marie was NOT an authentic singer of outdoorsy Indian culture?

Call her Buffy, the Campfire Punter.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:06 PM (QBaJw)

58 I've hiked the entire width of the Appalachian Trail.

Several times!

Posted by: But I don't want to brag at November 04, 2023 12:06 PM (NBVIP)

59 I believe we already have a unit if measurement for bullshit: the millikohn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:07 PM (zZu0s)

60 Random thought: Harvard University is now the leading Nazi institute ever.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 04, 2023 12:07 PM (HfNu5)

61 52 Kid in shorts in cold weather. Tell him he'll live to regret it. I point at the cane and give him the old guy look.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 04, 2023 12:07 PM (0EOe9)

62 50 How Abuayyash was able to get firearms is a detail that will be revealed in time, but yes—he shouldn’t have been able to purchase or possess any firearm on a non-immigrant visa.
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Thank goodness the FBI stopped the attack with the guns that he wasn't able to legally purchase.
(I'm guessing Daniel Defense)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at
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My guess is that he wasn't on the background list of felons.
He goes to the gun shop, passes the background check and makes his purchase. That's why the fibbers will release the details later.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:07 PM (jRxrY)

63 *shakes head sadly, tries to summon tear*

Posted by: The Italian guy who played Iron Eyes Cody at November 04, 2023 12:08 PM (zZu0s)

64 The overnight flight for mohamad was on a donkey with a woman's face (explains a lot about) called a barak. Hell if you're making shit up, mays well go for the gusto.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2023 12:08 PM (o2ZRX)

65 >>> Al Aqsa mosque is the 3rd holiest site in the Islamic world. And it is based on a fairy tale -- Muhammed supposedly climbed aboard his magic flying horse one night and flew from Medina to Jerusalem, then flew back the same day/night. No reports that this supersonic flying unicorn was shitting skittles during the flights.

And then he woke up. It was all a dream.

/teh rest of the story

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 12:09 PM (cOq4q)

66 It was always a kludge to get a right to conquer Jerusalem and complete their westward expansion.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:10 PM (zZu0s)

67 Have you consulted a pathologist?
Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 11:52 AM (991eG)

Heh!
Excellent.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 12:10 PM (uSHSS)

68 Al Aqsa mosque is the 3rd holiest site in the Islamic world. And it is based on a fairy tale -- Muhammed supposedly climbed aboard his magic flying horse one night and flew from Medina to Jerusalem, then flew back the same day/night. No reports that this supersonic flying unicorn was shitting skittles during the flights.

There you have it. My poor understanding is probably missing pieces, so please correct any errors etc etc etc, but I think that's the gist of the mosque's founding.

Thanks for the thread, KT.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 04, 2023 12:01 PM (zHuJr)

You know, I never thought of it before, but I'm sure some have... Mo's ride, are there any theories out there that he was abducted by aliens?

Everyone else has been abducted by aliens. Ezekiel saw aliens, everyone knows that. So, what about Mo?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:10 PM (QBaJw)

69 59 I believe we already have a unit if measurement for bullshit: the millikohn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:07 PM (zZu0s)

Isn't Mili usually a small part? so 1/1000th? I think Mega would be more accurate.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 12:10 PM (xaFKb)

70 So does the End Of Days also imply there will be an End Of Nights as well? Cuz that might make me wanna cancel Netflix and Hulu.

Posted by: Since we're on the subject at November 04, 2023 12:11 PM (NBVIP)

71 And Yes, there is a strain of Islam who are actively trying to bring on the end times.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 11:58 AM (xaFKb)

I keep hearing about Christians trying to bring about the end times, but I don't know anyone in person who feels that way.

I do know some people who insist that in order to be a good Christian, one must help facilitate their own martyrdom. Also, if anything comes about that resembles the mark of the beast, Christians have a duty to line up to get the mark. But the people who tell me this have no evidence to show that they are Christians apart from their self-identification.

Posted by: Emmie at November 04, 2023 12:11 PM (Sf2cq)

72 Milli vanilla was proved to be fraud time

Posted by: Skip at November 04, 2023 12:12 PM (20282)

73 The overnight flight for mohamad was on a donkey with a woman's face (explains a lot about) called a barak. Hell if you're making shit up, mays well go for the gusto.
Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2023 12:08 PM (o2ZRX)

It was a dark and stormy night.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 12:12 PM (uSHSS)

74 Call her Buffy, the Campfire Punter.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:06 PM (QBaJw)

Aww, crap. Slayer, not hunter.

I just wanted to use the word punter, and this being only halfway into my first cup, I was thinking vampire hunter.

Anyhoo... Buffy, the Campfire Player?

Eh, I don't like it as much.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:13 PM (QBaJw)

75 Kid: it’s freezing outside
Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (bWsRe)

Been there, I said nothing and he understood that sometimes the old man knew what he was talking about.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 04, 2023 12:13 PM (XuPWx)

76 I believe we already have a unit if measurement for bullshit: the millikohn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Isn't Mili usually a small part? so 1/1000th? I think Mega would be more accurate.
Posted by: Romeo13
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Why, it's as if bullshit is inherently contradictory.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2023 12:13 PM (XeU6L)

77
I'm a morning person. Keep it on Standard Time. Daylight Savings Time is a construct of the government. It is an unnatural abomination.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:13 PM (MoZTd)

78 Isn't Mili usually a small part? so 1/1000th? I think Mega would be more accurate.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 12:10 PM (xaFKb)

I think we were saying that Sally Kohn was so full of shit that everyone else is only a pale imitation.

To be fair, Mohammed was there first with the bullshit.

Goat fucking pederaticons as a unit of measure? GFPs?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:13 PM (zZu0s)

79 Jon Levine
@LevineJonathan
·
4h
NEW from me

Kamala Harris' daughter is publicly raising money for "Gaza" on her Instagram account — experts say the cash will find its way to Hamas

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2023 12:14 PM (TGPs7)

80
*It was a dark and stormy night.*

And the sea was angry that day, my friends.

Posted by: Sorry, can't help myself at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (NBVIP)

81 It is the conseptzia, the stubborn resistance to the reality

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I learn a new word.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (FVME7)

82 @60 Harvard University is now the leading Nazi institute ever.

Oh, come now. On their best day they wouldn't make a carbuncle on the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gesellschaft's ass.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (4PZHB)

83 Everyone else has been abducted by aliens. Ezekiel saw aliens, everyone knows that. So, what about Mo?
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:10 PM (QBaJw)

Brian of Nazareth

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (T/Lqj)

84 In 1947 the Palis could have had a country, could have been trading partners with Israel and today they’d all be rich and happy. They chose…poorly.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 11:55 AM (bWsRe)

Yes. They literally "chose violence" since that's what hamas translates to.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (nC+QA)

85
experts say the cash will find its way to Hamas
Posted by: Mister Ghost

And thence to Hamas leaders' bank accounts. How much was Arafat worth when he kicked it? A couple of billion, I understand.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (MoZTd)

86 Kamala Harris' daughter is publicly raising money for "Gaza" on her Instagram account — experts say the cash will find its way to Hamas

===

what daughter ? she has no children

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (V13WU)

87 The Sea does not take sides, Sir.
-Horatio Hornblower

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:16 PM (zZu0s)

88 So Jerusalem must be mentioned a lot in the Koran....

Right?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...anti-Semite at November 04, 2023 12:05 PM (3Gtis)

In the Islamic world, Jerusalem is referred to as 'Al-Quds'; also notably called Al-Quds by our then current CIA chief, John Brennan...

Oops.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 04, 2023 12:16 PM (zHuJr)

89
Thanks Muldoon!

I suspect these critical theory people who invent identities for themselves and create new word jumbles to scold and disparage others are just kids that didn't get disciplined correctly when young, now taking it out on mommy indirectly.

Posted by: Auspex at November 04, 2023 12:16 PM (j4U/Z)

90 Step Daughter.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:16 PM (zZu0s)

91 I've hiked the entire width of the Appalachian Trail.

Several times!
Posted by: But I don't want to brag at November 04, 2023 12:06 PM (NBVIP)

I hear you, man. When I think of all the mountains I've climbed, I'm sure many more than Jim Bridger, it helps to have the right equipment for the climb: A car.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:16 PM (QBaJw)

92 Judaism, Christianity, and Islam - there are factions or elements within each that actively want the return of something or another and want chaos and conflagration.

What could go wrong?

Posted by: Common Tater at November 04, 2023 12:17 PM (Q+P0Y)

93 what daughter ? she has no children
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (V13WU)
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Step daughter. The girl who might be cute if she wiped the look of judgmental disapproval off her face.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:17 PM (ScR16)

94 "Harris is a stepmother to Emhoff's two children, Cole and Ella, from his previous marriage to the film producer Kerstin Emhoff."

Posted by: From the Wiki at November 04, 2023 12:18 PM (NBVIP)

95 One could argue that early Christianity was an apocalyptic form of Judaism.

Seems like there was another one for Judaism. I want to say the guys who held Masada, but they were just a zealot sect (not apocalyptic per se.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:18 PM (zZu0s)

96
In 1947 the Palis could have had a country, could have been trading partners with Israel and today they’d all be rich and happy. They chose…poorly.

In that time, people were getting kicked out of everywhere. But we don't hear about East Prussian refugee camps or Sudeten German attacks on Czech targets.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:19 PM (MoZTd)

97 77
I'm a morning person. Keep it on Standard Time. Daylight Savings Time is a construct of the government. It is an unnatural abomination.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
***********
Noon is when the sun is at its apex for the day. That's how time should be set.

Posted by: Cosda at November 04, 2023 12:19 PM (d6Ggv)

98 Added the link for The American Front, CBD. Thanks for noticing.

Posted by: KT at November 04, 2023 12:20 PM (rrtZS)

99 A different concept of death

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I saw a YT yesterday that included a reference to a speech Joseph Goebbels* made during the final weeks of the Reich known as the Conquer or Die Speech.

*Joseph Goebbels, Joseph Biden; could they be related?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:20 PM (FVME7)

100 Population of Gaza in 2014 (because I happen to have a 2015 World Almanac to hand): 1.8m

Population of Gaza in 2023: 2.1m

Israelis: doing genocide wrong.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:20 PM (ScR16)

101 Emhoff's daughter ? The man who is in charge of combatting antisemitism ??? HAHAHAHAH! good. very representative of the shiiit that goes on in Bidet administration.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:20 PM (V13WU)

102 And Yes, there is a strain of Islam who are actively trying to bring on the end times.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2023 11:58 AM (xaFKb)

It’s all of Islam, they want us dead or subjugated so that Allah can rule supreme. Don’t overthink it, you’re dead, your wife and daughters are sex slaves. The end, according to Muslims.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 04, 2023 12:21 PM (XuPWx)

103 In 1947 the Palis could have had a country, could have been trading partners with Israel and today they’d all be rich and happy. They chose…~~poorly~~ evilly.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:22 PM (FVME7)

104 I do know some people who insist that in order to be a good Christian, one must help facilitate their own martyrdom. Also, if anything comes about that resembles the mark of the beast, Christians have a duty to line up to get the mark. But the people who tell me this have no evidence to show that they are Christians apart from their self-identification.
Posted by: Emmie at November 04, 2023 12:11 PM (Sf2cq)

Somewhat related, I caught a some of the Netflux doc about holy relics. I wasn't aware Notre Dame supposedly has the crown of thorns! And there's a church in Italy that claims to have the real holy grail.

Why was I not told. Anyhoo, real or not, there's something off-putting about people worshipping objects. It's almost as if they missed that story in the very book they claim to believe in.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:22 PM (QBaJw)

105

The ANSWER Coalition (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) submitted a permit to the National Park Service for an "End the Siege of Gaza: Free Palestine" rally. The permit says an estimated 26.000-30,000 participants will call for Israel to stop bombing Gaza. Israel's offensive against the predominately Palestinian Gaza Strip began last month following an attack by Hamas militants that killed more than 1,400 people.

According to the permit, a pre-rally will begin at noon on Saturday with speeches and music at Freedom Plaza. The rally itself is scheduled to begin at 2 p.m. and go until 4 p.m., when participants will march on streets around the White House and Ellipse.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2023 12:22 PM (63Dwl)

106
Step daughter. The girl who might be cute if she wiped the look of judgmental disapproval off her face.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:17 PM (ScR16)

The one who looks like the HR person who tells you it's time you pursued other opportunities?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:23 PM (MoZTd)

107 >>> Noon is when the sun is at its apex for the day. That's how time should be set.
Posted by: Cosda

It's always high noon somewhere.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 12:23 PM (cOq4q)

108 Every time I turn the clocks back my penis grows an inch.

Daylight savings is a conspiracy to place a damper on the renewal of the species.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 04, 2023 12:24 PM (PbTeh)

109 They chose…~~poorly~~ evilly.

As a gesture toward fairness, they were very badly advised.
A thread of this seems to run through their history.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:25 PM (4PZHB)

110 *It's always high noon somewhere.*

Clint Eastwood has entered the chat.

Posted by: The Western movie genre at November 04, 2023 12:25 PM (NBVIP)

111 103 In 1947 the Palis could have had a country, could have been trading partners with Israel and today they’d all be rich and happy. They chose…poorly evilly.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:22 PM (FVME7)

Israel GDP 43k
Gaza GDP 5k

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (lwOKI)

112 Don't forget the Spear of Longinus, the Shroud of Turin or the pieces of the True Cross.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (zZu0s)

113 Last week's thread, October 28, Just TEN wishes?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

I wish I could post in ALL the old threads...

Posted by: Lace Wigs Salesperson at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (9Bbwa)

114 The girl who might be cute if she wiped the look of judgmental disapproval off her face.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:17 PM (ScR16)

And shaved.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...anti-Semite at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (3Gtis)

115 Every time I turn the clocks back my penis grows an inch.

*********

*Turns clock back to 1976*
*Glances down*

Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (991eG)

116 Muhammed supposedly climbed aboard his magic flying horse

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And the horse's name? Buraq, or in American, Barack.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)

117 On the threat to Israel being the USA, there's another aspect, which is that the USA, since the end of WWII, as always stopped fighting short of victory. The Korean War ended with status quo ante, but since then it's been to get involved in war and after a while decide to "end the war" without discussion with the enemy, or if there were talks, get bamboozled in them. The only exceptions have been cases against such formidable opponents as Grenada and Panama. If Israel is smart, they need to cozy up with a different sugar daddy than Uncle Sam.

Posted by: George V at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (ugbqN)

118 What's going on with Malaysia and Indonesia? Heavliy Islalmic but (important point) not populated by Arabs.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:27 PM (ScR16)

119 Five European countries, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway & Sweden have agreed to cooperate in deportations of illegal migrants.
They will share flights & expertise.

https://is.gd/5CqYYQ

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:27 PM (jRxrY)

120
108 Every time I turn the clocks back my penis grows an inch.

TMI.

Posted by: I thought this was a family blog at November 04, 2023 12:27 PM (NBVIP)

121 The one who looks like the HR person who tells you it's time you pursued other opportunities?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:23 PM (MoZTd)

The one who looks like she could French braid her armpit hair.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:27 PM (zZu0s)

122 So who in the chattering classes is having the vapors whilst on the fainting couch because Israel bombed a Hamasbulance?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2023 12:27 PM (nK5/c)

123 Foreign investment in China turns negative for first time.
minus $11.8 billion

gooder

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 04, 2023 12:28 PM (lwOKI)

124 Population of Gaza in 2014 (because I happen to have a 2015 World Almanac to hand): 1.8m

Population of Gaza in 2023: 2.1m

Israelis: doing genocide wrong.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:20 PM (ScR16)

Everybody keeps repeating the same claim: half the population of Gaza are kids.

How's that work? Is everyone just spitting out babies? Are the elders dying off at ridiculous rates?

I just did a quick check, it appears U.S. population under 15 is about 18%.

So for Gazans it's half? Yeah, not buying it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

125
Everybody keeps repeating the same claim: half the population of Gaza are kids.

The same way we call 19-year-olds "kids" to inflate gun violence statistics.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:29 PM (MoZTd)

126 In Gaza kids blow up quick.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2023 12:29 PM (nK5/c)

127 >> Noon is when the sun is at its apex for the day. That's how time should be set.

That's how it was done for millennia until about the mid 19th century. Time was a purely local thing, set by the sun.

You couldn't communicate or travel fast enough for this to make any difference. Then came the telegraph and the railroads. The differences in local time became significant.

Railroad time was born. Blame the railroads.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 04, 2023 12:29 PM (Mzdiz)

128 Religion of peace my ass end. It's a death cult of sub human filth and way too many in the US support it.

While I was in Iraq, we worked with the detainees. There was a major push to get them not only their regular civilian education (GED-type equivalent), but religious training from "moderate" imams and teachers. The Quran has plenty of peaceful sounding verses, but it has plenty of clear commands to violently kill non-believers, too.

Posted by: Military Moron at November 04, 2023 12:30 PM (9Bbwa)

129
Railroad time was born. Blame the railroads.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Now the clock jumps around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:31 PM (MoZTd)

130
112 Don't forget the Spear of Longinus, the Shroud of Turin or the pieces of the True Cross.

Father Guido had a great skit involving the meal receipt for The Last Supper, which many people don't know was actually The Last Breakfast.

Posted by: Back when SNL was funny at November 04, 2023 12:31 PM (NBVIP)

131 Occam's raisin posits that oatmeal would otherwise be inedible.

Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 12:31 PM (991eG)

132 Railroad time was born. Blame the railroads.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 04, 2023 12:29 PM (Mzdiz)

And fuck you too, sir!

Posted by: Cornelius Vanderbilt at November 04, 2023 12:31 PM (zZu0s)

133 If Israel is smart, they need to cozy up with a different sugar daddy than Uncle Sam.

==

The relationship is of equals. There is absolutely no reliable foothold the US has in the ME other than Israel. Cannot trust any of the arab scum there. or persian. we had a nice embassy in Iran once. there are no guarantees that any of them won't one day turn on us and stab us in the back. So Israel is all we have.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:31 PM (V13WU)

134
The Quran has plenty of peaceful sounding verses, but it has plenty of clear commands to violently kill non-believers, too.
Posted by: Military Moron

"And upon those who split infinitives, may Allah's wrath destroy them!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:33 PM (MoZTd)

135 Israel is smart, they need to cozy up with a different sugar daddy than Uncle Sam.

==

No one else will or can give them 3 billion per year.

Posted by: Drive by at November 04, 2023 12:33 PM (MNhXM)

136 Bertram Cabot Jr @ 105-
This has all the makings of an op. Lots of ways for deepstate to put the story frontpage for the next 2 years. Make Ray Epps look like Alfalfa in Little Rascals.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2023 12:33 PM (o2ZRX)

137 Timing for the Railroads was very important.
No computers to precisely throw those switches.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:33 PM (jRxrY)

138 "And upon those who split infinitives, may Allah's wrath destroy them!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:33 PM (MoZTd)
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Can you split an infinitive in Arabic?

Bet they have a special hell for those who talk in the theater, though.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:34 PM (ScR16)

139 114 The girl who might be cute if she wiped the look of judgmental disapproval off her face.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Brie Larson at November 04, 2023 12:34 PM (9Bbwa)

140 Seems like there was another one for Judaism. I want to say the guys who held Masada, but they were just a zealot sect (not apocalyptic per se.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:18 PM (zZu0s)

Without looking it up, I thought the Essenes were considered to be somewhat apocalyptic. There's controversy around them these days, having to do with the Dead Sea Scrolls, and questions as to whether Jesus was indeed, an Essene.

I'm sure there are some here who know way more than I do about all that.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:34 PM (QBaJw)

141 Guys, guys, guys. It turns out we were all wrong.

Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib
Replying to @RashidaTlaib
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:34 PM (FVME7)

142 Do we still have a military base in Saudi Arabia ?

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:34 PM (V13WU)

143 As Zhang, the professor quoted above, observes, China could play a pivotal role in the refugee crisis.
...Egypt should annex Gaza, and resolve the refugee crisis by naturalizing the Gazans.
...
that is something that China, working together with the Gulf States, could solve. China already is deeply engaged in Egypt, building infrastructure and a new high-tech city.
https://is.gd/1Vzzbw
Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 11:34 AM (jRxrY)

Except the Egyptians, with good reason, don't want the fuckers. Yemen and Somalia are both islamic shithole failed states. Dump the paliscum into either or both, and let them fight it out with the native assholes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 12:35 PM (VdrUC)

144 Israel has been abandoned before when France decided the Arab petrodollar was more important.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2023 12:35 PM (nK5/c)

145 Tlaib's army of genocide is loosing. she is calling for a hudna.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:35 PM (V13WU)

146 "Railroad time was born. Blame the railroads."
********
This led to time zones which are okay. Daylight savings came about simply because we are too lazy to get out of bed in the morning.

Posted by: Cosda at November 04, 2023 12:36 PM (d6Ggv)

147 The same way we call 19-year-olds "kids" to inflate gun violence statistics.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:29 PM (MoZTd)

That's what I was thinking, but evidently this claim that everyone is repeating specifies 15 and under. Or something like that.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:36 PM (QBaJw)

148
The history of "railroad time" which became standard time zones and Greenwich Mean Time and all that is long and interesting.

There were a number of train wrecks, with people getting killed cause by different trains having their clocks set to different times. The railroads quickly realized they needed to synchronize their clocks to a uniform standard, and do that well. They invented ways to sync clocks over the telegraph, an early precursor of NTP you might say.

Now, you still had local mean times to deal with. There was the equivalent of hundreds of (smoothly varying with longitude) "time zones" across the country...

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 04, 2023 12:36 PM (Mzdiz)

149 One could argue that early Christianity was an apocalyptic form of Judaism.

Seems like there was another one for Judaism. I want to say the guys who held Masada, but they were just a zealot sect (not apocalyptic per se.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:18 PM (zZu0s)

There was one during Jesus time and briefly referred to in the Bible when they thought Jesus may have been part of that cult .

Posted by: Drive by at November 04, 2023 12:36 PM (MNhXM)

150 Tlaib is trying to explain that "the final solution" is striclty about maths!

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:37 PM (V13WU)

151 Great post K.T. Islam calls everyone who isn't Islamic an infidel who should be enslaved or killed. The leftist elite "revolutionaries think an alliance with Islam will work. Nope . I think a lot of middle of the road people are beginning to come around to that realization, but the insane left wants to drive Western civilization off a cliff

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2023 12:37 PM (ayQH8)

152 Computing local apparent noon is important, but the synchronization with GMT is the basis of deriving longitude. You can't really blame railroads for that.

If all railroads had been laid as double tracks, the need for railroad time would not have been so urgent. It was those head-on crashes that got people going.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:37 PM (4PZHB)

153
Daylight savings came about simply because we are too lazy to get out of bed in the morning.
Posted by: Cosda

The problem with being 29 is that getting out of bed and dressed, which used to be automatic, now requires a carefully thought-out strategy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:37 PM (MoZTd)

154 Rancid Tilapia lies like a rug.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 04, 2023 12:38 PM (nK5/c)

155 Thankfully, Kamala Harris is the queen succubus of all of the succubi.

She has diligently consumed and digested every prodigy that could have slithered from her rancid fumarole.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 04, 2023 12:38 PM (PbTeh)

156 The Koran places the onus on individuals for their actions, regardless of their group affiliation or whether they are oppressed or not.
Maybe they should tell the Gazans, and all the other Muslims, who don't take personal responsibility for shit, because it's all Allah's will.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 04, 2023 12:38 PM (XMwZJ)

157
The railroads might have to publish a couple dozen schedules converting their uniform "railroad time" to local times at large stations in major cities and so forth.

The came the imposition of the tyranny of railroad time (as those who were opposed at the time called it) to do away with all that.

The notion of time zone had to be done because you wanted your standard time to be reasonably close the solar time for everybody.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 04, 2023 12:38 PM (Mzdiz)

158 The only exceptions have been cases against such formidable opponents as Grenada and Panama. If Israel is smart, they need to cozy up with a different sugar daddy than Uncle Sam.
Posted by: George V at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (ugbqN)

And as some will say, if we'd done Panama right, we woulda tooken back the canal.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:39 PM (QBaJw)

159 >>> Railroad time was born. Blame the railroads.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at November 04, 2023 12:29 PM (Mzdiz)

A little known factoid is that all the railroads originally ran north-south so the old way of setting time worked fine. Then the civil war occurred with all its unpleasantness so it was decided then that it was better to run the railroads east-west. And the need for time zones followed that.

So, if you hate day light savings, you can blame the north, or the souh, your choice.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 12:39 PM (cOq4q)

160 I just did a quick check, it appears U.S. population under 15 is about 18%.

So for Gazans it's half? Yeah, not buying it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

It's believable - women aren't allowed to work, and everyone lives off assistance provided to them by the Euro's and the NGO's. More kids, more assistance. Basically everyone just lays around all day and has babies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (S6gqv)

161 "The problem with being 29 is that getting out of bed and dressed, which used to be automatic, now requires a carefully thought-out strategy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"
*******
How to get one's socks on can become a morning dilemma.

Posted by: Cosda at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (d6Ggv)

162 What's going on with Malaysia and Indonesia? Heavliy Islalmic but (important point) not populated by Arabs.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:27 PM (ScR16)

I saw something the other day, showed massive street blatherings in Indonesia.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (QBaJw)

163 ...[a] vote was taken in the House on Thursday to sanction Hamas terrorists and their supporters. 45 Democrats said no to that resolution.
The 45 Democrats are:

Blumenauer (OR), Bowman (NY), Bush (MO), Cárdenas (CA), Carson (IN), Casar (TX), Castro (TX), Chu (CA), Clarke (NY), DeSaulnier (CA), Escobar (TX), Foushee (NC), Frost (FL), García (IL), Garcia (TX), Garcia, R. (CA), Grijalva (AZ), Huffman (CA), Ivey (MD), Jackson (IL), Jacobs (CA), Jayapal (WA), Kamlager-Dove (CA), Kelly (IL), Lee (CA), Lee (PA), Lofgren (CA), McCollum (MN), McGovern (MA), Moore (WI), Ocasio-Cortez (NY), Omar (MN), Pocan (WI), Pressley (MA), Ramirez (IL), Scanlon (PA), Schakowsky (IL), Takano (CA), Tlaib (MI), Tokuda (HI), Underwood (IL), Velázquez (NY), Waters (CA), and Wilson (FL)

https://is.gd/okmMhM

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (jRxrY)

164
@RashidaTlaib
Replying to @RashidaTlaib
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.
---

Whoops! Whoopsies!

Nov. 1, 2023:

"Ali Khamenei: "The situation between America and Iran is this: When you chant 'Death to America!' it is not just a slogan – it is a policy."

https://tinyurl.com/ymusnnbo

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (StKe7)

165 If Israel is smart, they need to cozy up with a different sugar daddy than Uncle Sam.
Posted by: George V at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (ugbqN)

There's not a lot of candidates out there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:41 PM (S6gqv)

166 ...moved back in 2019. after 15 years. now have 2700 stationed there.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:42 PM (V13WU)

167 what does Tlaib say in arabic ?

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (V13WU)

168 *Turns clock back to 1976*
*Glances down*

Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'.

Posted by: Zombie Billy Preston at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (V8he0)

169 >>> Guys, guys, guys. It turns out we were all wrong.

Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib
Replying to @RashidaTlaib
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice!

So then it is like "jihad" was explained in late 2001.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (cOq4q)

170 A little known factoid is that all the railroads originally ran north-south so the old way of setting time worked fine. Then the civil war occurred with all its unpleasantness so it was decided then that it was better to run the railroads east-west. And the need for time zones followed that.
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Nope. Lots of east-west railways prior to the ACW:

https://tinyurl.com/4sfcp4pp

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (ScR16)

171 161 "The problem with being 29 is that getting out of bed and dressed, which used to be automatic, now requires a carefully thought-out strategy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh"
*******

5 minute morning routine is now a 30 minute routine.

They make a sock sleeve that works well.
I'll look for it.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (jRxrY)

172 135 Israel is smart, they need to cozy up with a different sugar daddy than Uncle Sam.
==
No one else will or can give them 3 billion per year.
Posted by: Drive by at November 04, 2023 12:33 PM

Perhaps...

I'm reminded of Yugoslavia, which was Communist, but not fully aligned with the USSR or the US/West. Tito knew he was in a strategic position, and played both sides for money, business, and military aide. Turkey in many ways is also trying to walk this path. I don't see why Israel couldn't...Uncle Sam is willing to outbid and compete with other suitors if the bride is worth it, and Israel has a lot of strategic significance in the region.

Posted by: Military Moron at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (9Bbwa)

173 149 One could argue that early Christianity was an apocalyptic form of Judaism.

Seems like there was another one for Judaism. I want to say the guys who held Masada, but they were just a zealot sect (not apocalyptic per se.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 04, 2023 12:18 PM (zZu0s)

I (and I'm far from the only one) would say that early Christianity was a fusion of Pharisaic Judaism and Zoroastrianism. Many people today would be surprised at how familiar sounding most Zoroastrian theology is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (S6gqv)

174 what daughter ? she has no children
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (V13WU)

Probably the facially blighted stepdaughter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 12:44 PM (VdrUC)

175 I just did a quick check, it appears U.S. population under 15 is about 18%.

So for Gazans it's half? Yeah, not buying it.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)

It's believable - women aren't allowed to work, and everyone lives off assistance provided to them by the Euro's and the NGO's. More kids, more assistance. Basically everyone just lays around all day and has babies.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (S6gqv)
***

Well.
With each bombing mission the ratio of kids to adults edges up a bit.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 12:44 PM (uSHSS)

176 So then it is like "jihad" was explained in late 2001.

====

lol, exactly. nothing to worry about!

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:45 PM (V13WU)

177 Except the Egyptians, with good reason, don't want the fuckers. Yemen and Somalia are both islamic shithole failed states. Dump the paliscum into either or both, and let them fight it out with the native assholes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 12:35 PM (VdrUC)

What is only whispered, but is most likely what will happen if... IF Gaza is mostly cleared out: They'll end up here and/or Europe.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:45 PM (QBaJw)

178 they need to cozy up with a different sugar daddy

Ah, people forget. There were so many ex-soviets on the kibbutz that Israel was taken, in the Sixties, to be part of the "non-aligned" movement so popular then. Until the Intifada was declared, it was typical for US leftists to sport stars of David in solidarity with what was being pushed as small-c-communism that worked. Things were...iffy between the US and Israel on Some Big Things until the 1973 war.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:46 PM (4PZHB)

179 Probably the facially blighted stepdaughter.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 12:44 PM (VdrUC)

her brain is blighted

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:46 PM (V13WU)

180 Good hands.

Biden Addresses Canada’s PM Trudeau as “Prime Minister Joe”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:46 PM (FVME7)

181 Sock Aid

https://is.gd/KoKG84

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:46 PM (jRxrY)

182 >>> Computing local apparent noon is important, but the synchronization with GMT is the basis of deriving longitude. You can't really blame railroads for that.

Ship navigation required accurate clocks.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 12:47 PM (cOq4q)

183 So then it is like "jihad" was explained in late 2001.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM

Exactly! "Mein Kampf" was really about my personal growth and internal struggles and development. It certainly wasn't meant to be the basis for a genocidal regime! I'm the victim here!

Posted by: Mustache Man at November 04, 2023 12:48 PM (9Bbwa)

184 It's believable - women aren't allowed to work, and everyone lives off assistance provided to them by the Euro's and the NGO's. More kids, more assistance. Basically everyone just lays around all day and has babies.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (S6gqv)

Yeah, I'm not buying it. First clue is, everyone is saying it.

In the media, I mean. Whether it's statistically possible or not, I'm sure it's possible. I just don't believe it, because it's propaganda that serves a very specific purpose.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:48 PM (QBaJw)

185 Federal subsidy of the transcontinental ("East-West") railroads was a plank in the first platform of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:49 PM (4PZHB)

186 Blumenauer (OR), Bowman (NY), Bush (MO), Cárdenas (CA), Carson (IN), Casar (TX), Castro (TX), Chu (CA), Clarke (NY), DeSaulnier (CA), Escobar (TX), Foushee (NC), Frost (FL), García (IL), Garcia (TX), Garcia, R. (CA), Grijalva (AZ), Huffman (CA), Ivey (MD), Jackson (IL), Jacobs (CA), Jayapal (WA), Kamlager-Dove (CA), Kelly (IL), Lee (CA), Lee (PA), Lofgren (CA), McCollum (MN), McGovern (MA), Moore (WI), Ocasio-Cortez (NY), Omar (MN), Pocan (WI), Pressley (MA), Ramirez (IL), Scanlon (PA), Schakowsky (IL), Takano (CA), Tlaib (MI), Tokuda (HI), Underwood (IL), Velázquez (NY), Waters (CA), and Wilson (FL)

https://is.gd/okmMhM
Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 12:40 PM (jRxrY)

Now, there's a list of 45 people the world would be better without.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:49 PM (QBaJw)

187 Ship navigation required accurate clocks.

THAT IS WHAT I JUST SAID.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:49 PM (4PZHB)

188 Kamala Harris' daughter is publicly raising money for "Gaza" on her Instagram account — experts say the cash will find its way to Hamas
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2023 12:14 PM (TGPs7)

to play (literal) Devil's Advocate - she might just be looking to scam the stupid leftists out of their cash and put it all into her own pockets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:50 PM (S6gqv)

189 Hungarian Dance No. 5 - I love it! It's no Fund No. 49, but it's still great.

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2023 12:50 PM (ogTiX)

190 One could argue that early Christianity was an apocalyptic form of Judaism.

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You wanna talk apocalypse?

Violent star collisions, called a kilonova, could devastate our planet due to a lethal spew of radiation — namely gamma rays, cosmic rays and x-rays — that are emitted from the celestial event, scientists have discovered.

"We found that if a neutron star merger were to occur within around 36 light-years of Earth, the resulting radiation could cause an extinction-level event," University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign researcher Haille Perkins told Space.com.

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"Within around 36 light-years of Earth?" That's like way over on the other side of town!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)

191 Brian of Nazareth
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at November 04, 2023 12:15 PM (T/Lqj)

Ohhh yeah, that's a good one. BRIAN!!!
Rewease Bwian.

Posted by: Reforger at November 04, 2023 12:52 PM (bv2/x)

192 I wonder if Sodom is in present day Gaza.

Things that make you go mmmmmm...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 04, 2023 12:52 PM (R/m4+)

193 Until the Intifada was declared, it was typical for US leftists to sport stars of David in solidarity with what was being pushed as small-c-communism that worked. Things were...iffy between the US and Israel on Some Big Things until the 1973 war.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:46 PM (4PZHB)

The Left will never forgive Israel for admitting that communism doesn't work.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:52 PM (S6gqv)

194 I bet users and dealers use the same math that nuked Japan or landed on the moon.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2023 12:52 PM (C8EUP)

195 Rashida Tlaib
@RashidaTlaib
Replying to @RashidaTlaib
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:34 PM (FVME7)
===

She means lebensraum

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (RIvkX)

196
Dvořák Slavonic Dances >>> Brahms Hungarian Dances

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (MoZTd)

197 Why not the best?

Biden Judicial Nominee Claims He “Hasn’t Studied Enough” to Condemn Hamas

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (FVME7)

198 what does Tlaib say in arabic ?
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:43 PM (V13WU)

Durka durka jihad?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (VdrUC)

199 Muhammed supposedly climbed aboard his magic flying horse

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And the horse's name? Buraq, or in American, Barack.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7)

He might be one end of that flying horse.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 04, 2023 12:54 PM (HfNu5)

200 Dvořák Slavonic Dances >>> Brahms Hungarian Dances
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (MoZTd)
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Begun, the Classical Wars have.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:54 PM (ScR16)

201 Did Tlaib actually say that with a straight face?

Heh.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 12:54 PM (uSHSS)

202
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence

__________

"This is my last territorial demand."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 12:55 PM (MoZTd)

203 her brain is blighted
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:46 PM (V13WU)

The blight goes to the bone, it does.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 12:55 PM (VdrUC)

204 Biden Judicial Nominee Claims He “Hasn’t Studied Enough” to Condemn Hamas
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (FVME7)
----------
Let me just say, calmly, cooly:

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE????

Thank you.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (ScR16)

205 I should have known this, but I just found out the head of Hamas is called "Yahya".

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (S6gqv)

206 Ah, people forget. There were so many ex-soviets on the kibbutz that Israel was taken, in the Sixties, to be part of the "non-aligned" movement so popular then. Until the Intifada was declared, it was typical for US leftists to sport stars of David in solidarity with what was being pushed as small-c-communism that worked. Things were...iffy between the US and Israel on Some Big Things until the 1973 war.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 04, 2023 12:46 PM (4PZHB)

Books have been written on this subject, and I'm not going to do anything other than summarize the perspective: Essentially all of U.S. foreign policy for the past 50 years was birthed by one man: Henry Kissinger.

He is the modern Machiavelli, having formed the world in his image, and corrupted the soul of this nation beyond repair.

Of the great evils of the 20th century, Kissinger ranks right up there with the usual suspects.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (QBaJw)

207 Israel's Chief of Staff enters Gaza to hold meetings , assessment

https://tinyurl.com/5hf7zy8h

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (V13WU)

208 Rashida Tlaib

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (RIvkX)
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Lying scum.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (bAJ1Y)

209 The blight goes to the bone, it does.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 12:55 PM (VdrUC)
---------
A lesser known George Throughgood song.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (ScR16)

210 175 I just did a quick check, it appears U.S. population under 15 is about 18%.

So for Gazans it's half? Yeah, not buying it.
Posted by: BurtTC

That is pretty high. Kosovo was renowned for its young population, and it wasn't that high. Google says: Kosovo has one of the youngest populations in Europe, with over 40% of its population under 25 years old.

On the other hand, Kosovo has a growing educated female population and workforce, and lots of young people that leave for work and school. Gaza has much less of that...women are treated very "traditionally"...marry young, stay home, and have kids. And older people die fighting, or due to poor medical facilities.

Posted by: Military Moron at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (9Bbwa)

211 Lol: Democrats Cried Over Israel Aid Bill Vote

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Cry me a from the river to the sea.

"Reps. Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Greg Landsman voted for the $14.3 billion Israel aid package while crying and taking furious jabs at what they considered were the political games being played by the new House Speaker,"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:57 PM (FVME7)

212 164
@RashidaTlaib
Replying to @RashidaTlaib
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.

Fifty bucks says this bint finds white supremacist dog whistles in microwave popcorn instructions, but outright calls for ethnic cleansing are fine. The money behind her must be substantial.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at November 04, 2023 12:57 PM (z+89e)

213 What's he saying??!

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:58 PM (V13WU)

214 204 Biden Judicial Nominee Claims He “Hasn’t Studied Enough” to Condemn Hamas
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (FVME7)
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How does someone calculate that it makes them look better to talk like a fucking idiot?

NEVER GO FULL RETARD!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:58 PM (S6gqv)

215 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (bAJ1Y)

yes, yes she is !

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 12:58 PM (V13WU)

216 Why not the best?

Biden Judicial Nominee Claims He “Hasn’t Studied Enough” to Condemn Hamas
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (FVME7)

We have a SC Justice who doesn't know what a woman is.

So, sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 12:58 PM (QBaJw)

217 I should have known this, but I just found out the head of Hamas is called "Yahya".
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (S6gqv)

Maybe Israel should help them get their Yahyas out.

Posted by: not Mick Jagger at November 04, 2023 12:59 PM (VdrUC)

218 Slavs vs Magyars

https://tinyurl.com/mrybyxe9

Posted by: Oglebay at November 04, 2023 12:59 PM (ogTiX)

219 Biden Judicial Nominee Claims He “Hasn’t Studied Enough” to Condemn Hamas
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (FVME7)
----------
Let me just say, calmly, cooly:

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE????

Thank you.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight

He's iffy on the whole good /evil thing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:59 PM (FVME7)

220 Here is my translation , based on body language:

"We are going to kill this scum and send them back to hades !"

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 01:00 PM (V13WU)

221 “The Palestinian nation has existed for less than one hundred years,” he nothing that they do not meet the international standards for nationhood since they are lacking a unique history, culture, language and currency.

“I ask you who was the first Palestinian King, what [unique] language do they have, was there ever a Palestinian coin. Is there a Palestinian history or culture? There isn’t. There is no such thing as a Palestinian nation.

The Palestinians, he said, are regional Arabs who arrived in the Land of Israel at the same of the first major waves of immigration at the end of the 19th century.

When the biblical prophecies were brought to fruition with the return of the Jews to their land, there were Arabs that did not like this, Smotrich said.

“What happened? They created a fictional nation and then worked for their fictitious rights to the Land of Israel just to battle against the Zionist movement. That is the historical truth and the biblical truth. That is the truth and there is no alternative,”

https://is.gd/DE1CDc

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 01:00 PM (jRxrY)

222 There's a video floating around of a guy approaching pro-Palestine college students and asking them to sign a document supporting Palestine and their goals.

The kids are gung-ho, and he tells them that the law requires him to read the Palestinians' "terms of agreement" essentially, and what they support and what the students are signing.

Killing of gays, mandatory face and body coverings for women except for the eyes, death to Jewish infants, etc.

It's hilarious to see the reactions.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at November 04, 2023 01:01 PM (StKe7)

223 On the other hand, Kosovo has a growing educated female population and workforce, and lots of young people that leave for work and school. Gaza has much less of that...women are treated very "traditionally"...marry young, stay home, and have kids. And older people die fighting, or due to poor medical facilities.
Posted by: Military Moron at November 04, 2023 12:56 PM (9Bbwa)

Still, the claims sounds an awful lot like "If you don't stop driving cars, the world will burn up in 50 years."

Or "take the shot, if you don't you won't be able to get the Covids."

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:01 PM (QBaJw)

224 Or "take the shot, if you don't you won't be able to get the Covids."
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:01 PM (QBaJw)

If you do...

Stupid typo. Stupid stupid.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:02 PM (QBaJw)

225 Good news, everyone! We've won the war on crime!

Crime-Ridden Alameda County’s Prison Population Plummets Under Soros-Backed Prosecutor

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 01:03 PM (FVME7)

226 >>> Or "take the shot, if you don't you won't be able to get the Covids."
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:01 PM (QBaJw)

If you do...

Stupid typo. Stupid stupid.
Posted by: BurtTC

Works just as well with the typo.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 01:04 PM (cOq4q)

227 Stupid typo. Stupid stupid.
Posted by: BurtTC
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It's a stutter.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 01:05 PM (ScR16)

228 University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign researcher Haille Perkins told Space.com.
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"Within around 36 light-years of Earth?" That's like way over on the other side of town!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 12:50 PM (FVME7)

Next, Haille Perkins told Variety.com if she shaves her armpits, bathes a little more often, Brad Pitt will want to date her.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:05 PM (QBaJw)

229 From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence...

So its totes OK if I say "From the Mountain to the Sound!" and begin a sweep that drives all the addicts, pushers, whores, gangs, cut throats, mugs, pugs, nitwits, halfwits, muggers, buggerers, etc. Out of Seattle and Tacoma?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:05 PM (uSHSS)

230 Countries, peoples, culture die all the time.
Bones of the dead countries stick out of the ground here and there.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2023 01:06 PM (C8EUP)

231 She means lebensraum
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 12:53 PM (RIvkX)

Well, yes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 04, 2023 01:06 PM (zZu0s)

232 r "take the shot, if you don't you won't be able to get the Covids."
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:01 PM (QBaJw)

If you do...

Stupid typo. Stupid stupid.
Posted by: BurtTC

Works just as well with the typo.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 01:04 PM (cOq4q)

Oh shit, I didn't even read my own quote. Yes, the original was correct. Well, "correct" for certain values of correct.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:06 PM (QBaJw)

233 Oh shit, I didn't even read my own quote. Yes, the original was correct. Well, "correct" for certain values of correct.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:06 PM (QBaJw)

Nevermind. I'm confusing the hell out of myself this morning.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:07 PM (QBaJw)

234 Peace in our time.

China Assumes Control of UN Security Council, Calls Pro-Hamas Ceasefire a “Top Priority”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 01:07 PM (FVME7)

235 That Polish orchestra was sensational! I was raised in a Hungarian household, a Hungarian neighborhood and a Hungarian church throughout the 1950's. It still gets misty whenever I hear the music from the "old country" that my grandparents immigrated from at the turn of the last country.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at November 04, 2023 01:08 PM (h4nev)

236 Occam's raisin posits that oatmeal would otherwise be inedible.
Posted by: Muldoon, sometimes funny, sometimes serious, sometimes elegant at November 04, 2023 12:31 PM (991eG)

What does OctoMom's Razor say ?

Posted by: JT at November 04, 2023 01:08 PM (T4tVD)

237 The 'vaxx' does nothing to actually fight the virus or reduce viral load and prevent communication. It's right there on the label.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 04, 2023 01:08 PM (zZu0s)

238 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 04, 2023 01:08 PM (T4tVD)

239
Been there, I said nothing and he understood that sometimes the old man knew what he was talking about.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 04, 2023 12:13 PM (XuPWx)

Yep I too said nothing. Lesson was learned.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:08 PM (bWsRe)

240 >>> “The Palestinian nation has existed for less than one hundred years,” he nothing that they do not meet the international standards for nationhood since they are lacking a unique history, culture, language and currency.""

Any truth to the old meme (before memes were called memes) that "Palestinians" cannot even spell that in their own language?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 01:08 PM (cOq4q)

241 What does OctoMom's Razor say ?
Posted by: JT at November 04, 2023 01:08 PM (T4tVD)

She kind of fell off the radar after the porn. Those kids should be in high school by now, no? Must be fun to be them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 04, 2023 01:09 PM (zZu0s)

242 Regarding the Dome of the Rock:

I am not a Middle East scholar, nor have I stayed at a Holiday Inn, but by my reading on the subject the Dome is built over The Foundation Stone, which according to most of the inhabitants of the Middle East all the way back into deep prehistoric time, is where the universe sprang from.

It is also believed to be the rock Abraham was going to sacrifice his son. It is probably the location of The Holy of Holys of the two Jewish Temples.

There is also a cave under the rock called The Well of Souls.

Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2023 01:09 PM (SYTee)

243 So its totes OK if I say "From the Mountain to the Sound!" and begin a sweep that drives all the addicts, pushers, whores, gangs, cut throats, mugs, pugs, nitwits, halfwits, muggers, buggerers, etc. Out of Seattle and Tacoma?
Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:05 PM (uSHSS)

Does that include the Democrats?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 01:09 PM (VdrUC)

244 Does that include the Democrats?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 01:09 PM (VdrUC)

By definition.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 04, 2023 01:10 PM (zZu0s)

245 Nicole Maffeo Russo
@nicolerusso

Bill Murray stopped by Select Oyster Bar in Boston for lunch today and was sat at the table under the painting of Steve Zissou… a character that he played in the Wes Anderson Film.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2023 01:12 PM (TGPs7)

246 @RashidaTlaib
Replying to @RashidaTlaib
From the river to the sea is an aspirational call for freedom, human rights, and peaceful coexistence, not death, destruction, or hate. My work and advocacy is always centered in justice and dignity for all people no matter faith or ethnicity.
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I find it somewhat difficult to resolve the above sentiment with Tlaib's aggressively vulgar address given to MoveOn a while back.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2023 01:12 PM (XeU6L)

247 When the biblical prophecies were brought to fruition with the return of the Jews to their land, there were Arabs that did not like this, Smotrich said.

“What happened? They created a fictional nation and then worked for their fictitious rights to the Land of Israel just to battle against the Zionist movement. That is the historical truth and the biblical truth. That is the truth and there is no alternative,”

https://is.gd/DE1CDc
Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 01:00 PM (jRxrY)

I saw a discussion recently, about the lie being told showing maps of the area, as they evolved since 1947.

Apparently that's a thing, the Pali lovers claim they controlled most of the region, and saw it eroded over the years, after each of these wars that have occurred, and the more recent "intifadas" or whatever the hell they call them.

The lie MUST start with the myth of a Pali state, which of course never was. The land that Israel now occupies, was either A. part of the original British drawn plan, or B. acquired during these wars, or 3. private land, purchased legally from private owners.

There was no Pali state from which any of it was taken.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:12 PM (QBaJw)

248 "Inquiry ordered into Queensland’s fertility clinics after incest fears
A Queensland woman found out that her sperm donor had donated sperm multiple times in four years. She worries that her children may be romantically involved with a blood relative. Queensland Health Minister Shannon Fentiman has ordered an inquiry into the incident."

the woman said 1000 babies might have been fathered by same donor

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 01:13 PM (V13WU)

249 Paleostinians here? Oh god no. Had one family move into the apartment complex I lived in a couple of years ago. People were friendly but the guy was a fanatic. Called strangers American pigs and scum very loudly. Folks would be hanging by the pool chilling out with beer and their kids and this guy would start raving about his people being raped by the American pig CIA, etc. Broke up a nice social scene. Would leer at the girls. Most people wanted to beat his ass.

The whole family disappeared one day after a couple months and no one knows what happened.

Completely trashed the apartment.

Posted by: pawn at November 04, 2023 01:13 PM (QB+5g)

250 I am not a Middle East scholar, nor have I stayed at a Holiday Inn, but by my reading on the subject the Dome is built over The Foundation Stone, which according to most of the inhabitants of the Middle East all the way back into deep prehistoric time, is where the universe sprang from.

It is also believed to be the rock Abraham was going to sacrifice his son. It is probably the location of The Holy of Holys of the two Jewish Temples.

There is also a cave under the rock called The Well of Souls.
Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2023 01:09 PM (SYTee)

Regardless, it is long past time that Israel tears down the muzzie obscenity, puts the stones through a crusher. and uses the resulting gravel as shrapnel in anti-personnel munitions to be deployed against the goatrapers in gaza.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 01:13 PM (VdrUC)

251 I am not a Middle East scholar, nor have I stayed at a Holiday Inn, but by my reading on the subject the Dome is built over The Foundation Stone, which according to most of the inhabitants of the Middle East all the way back into deep prehistoric time, is where the universe sprang from.

It is also believed to be the rock Abraham was going to sacrifice his son. It is probably the location of The Holy of Holys of the two Jewish Temples.

There is also a cave under the rock called The Well of Souls.
Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2023 01:09 PM (SYTee)

There's also good reason to believe that the Dome was actually a Byzantine basilica built several decades before the Muslim conquest, which was then repurposed by them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 01:14 PM (S6gqv)

252 the woman said 1000 babies might have been fathered by same donor
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 01:13 PM (V13WU)

This is wrong?

Posted by: The Paolo at November 04, 2023 01:14 PM (bWsRe)

253 Greetings! If memory serves, there are translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls on line, however incomplete they may be as the work of translating them is ongoing. If you have seen pictures of them, it's worse than a jigsaw puzzle.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 04, 2023 01:14 PM (MeG8a)

254 There is also a cave under the rock called The Well of Souls.
Posted by: davidt at November 04, 2023 01:09 PM (SYTee)

And inside that cave, Al Capone's secret treasure.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:15 PM (QBaJw)

255 They should hook on to that dome and fly it to mecca.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 01:15 PM (jRxrY)

256 There was no Pali state from which any of it was taken.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:12 PM (QBaJw)

Before the Brits got it, it had been an Ottoman province (mostly unpopulated) for about 400 years. There were small numbers of Arabs, Jews, and Bedouins in residence there. None of them called themselves "Palestinian".

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 01:16 PM (S6gqv)

257 RashidaTlaib needs to go to Gaza where she will be told to cover up, stand behind the men, and shut her mouth when the men are talking.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:16 PM (uSHSS)

258 Good news, everyone! A solution to the climate crisis!

The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Advice: For some, psychedelic therapy can help with climate anxiety, which is unlike any other issue in psychiatry because the feelings extend beyond our personal narrative.

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Drop a tab for Erf!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (FVME7)

259 Completely trashed the apartment.
Posted by: pawn at November 04, 2023 01:13 PM (QB+5g)

He's probably right.

The CIA probably did some rapin' of their wimminz.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (QBaJw)

260 Arizona gives a big FU to America for being so stupid about the time of day.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (l10hq)

261 Speaking of trashed apartments by Arabs…

Northern Africa airlines have a rep of being absolute trash. Like passengers leave food on the seats, on the floor, orange peels, drinks spilled, etc. Lots of U-toob videos documenting it.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (bWsRe)

262 Behold a Pale Horse...

illuminatibot
@iluminatibot
·
30m
They killed Bill Cooper after he predicted 9/11

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2023 01:18 PM (TGPs7)

263 The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Advice: For some, psychedelic therapy can help with climate anxiety, which is unlike any other issue in psychiatry because the feelings extend beyond our personal narrative.
-
Drop a tab for Erf!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (FVME7)

oh gawd, even Timothy Leary was more rational than that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 01:18 PM (S6gqv)

264 Arizona gives a big FU to America for being so stupid about the time of day.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (l10hq)

Saskatchewan, too. And I believe half of Indiana.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 01:19 PM (VdrUC)

265 Before the Brits got it, it had been an Ottoman province (mostly unpopulated) for about 400 years. There were small numbers of Arabs, Jews, and Bedouins in residence there. None of them called themselves "Palestinian".
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 01:16 PM (S6gqv)

Right, once you start going back before 1947, there's nothing on which the leftists and Pali lovers can hang any of their claims.

It all depends on the lie and the myth that Israel took their land after 1947.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:19 PM (QBaJw)

266 Climate anxiety, aka, being retarded.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:19 PM (bWsRe)

267 I think Indiana stopped that practice. Used to be every county decided on its own but now it’s a statewide thing. I believe.

And what made it even crazier was Indiana has two time zones. So with every county deciding on DST it was a fucking mess.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:21 PM (bWsRe)

268 The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Advice: For some, psychedelic therapy can help with climate anxiety, which is unlike any other issue in psychiatry because the feelings extend beyond our personal narrative.

-
Drop a tab for Erf!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (FVME7)

Oh, for pete's sake. Psychedelics are being experimented with, for people with complex trauma.

Not for nervous ninnies who have bought the lies of Glowball Warmening. The preferred treatment for those people is a good slap in the face. A heaping dose of reality.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:22 PM (QBaJw)

269 Some would argue that the Ark of Covenant was buried under the Dome of the Mosque and the ruins of Solomon's tomb.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2023 01:22 PM (TGPs7)

270 Also Hawaii doesn’t do DST

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:22 PM (bWsRe)

271 >>>The whole family disappeared one day after a couple months and no one knows what happened.

Completely trashed the apartment.
Posted by: pawn

Maybe no one is talking about what happened to them, but everyone knows they aren't in the dumpster.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 04, 2023 01:22 PM (cOq4q)

272 The Palestinians can't be bought off and they can't be persuaded that it is in their interest to live at peace alongside a Jewish state. The various factions have different strategies and tactics, but their ultimate objective is the same: Israel must disappear.

The Americans are dangerous, because they don't or won't accept this. . .
***

This is why I content that the only solution is for Israel to absolutely crush hamas. Total victory. Crush them. And then demand unconditional surrender. Following that Nuremberg styled trials and execution of any and all hamas leadership.
Then...a generation of a Marshall-like plan to rebuild, re-educate, and restore Gaza, under Israeli mentorship.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:23 PM (uSHSS)

273 Climate anxiety is what upper middle class Americans have because they have the luxury to have it. Know who doesn’t have climate anxiety? Africans villagers who barely have enough to eat every day. That’s who.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:24 PM (bWsRe)

274
Know who doesn’t have climate anxiety? Africans villagers who barely have enough to eat every day. That’s who.
Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:24 PM (bWsRe)

"Your climate anxiety could feed an African family for a month!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 01:25 PM (MoZTd)

275 Some would argue that the Ark of Covenant was buried under the Dome of the Mosque and the ruins of Solomon's tomb.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 04, 2023 01:22 PM (TGPs7)

Truth be told, a lot of the holy sites in the area, they built churches on top of all sorts of things, when Constantine's mom came to the area and started haphazardly deciding where various events must have occurred.

No doubt some of them were locations of claims by primitive locals as holy sites.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:25 PM (QBaJw)

276 It's Howdy Doody time.

Posted by: Howdy Doody at November 04, 2023 01:25 PM (vFG9F)

277 "Many people today would be surprised at how familiar sounding most Zoroastrian theology is."

I'm not.

Every copy-cat or substitute religion has "familiar sounding" theology. CS Lewis said that "Islam is a hermit crab," having no cosmology or (epistemology? dang, the word escapes me now)

Nearly all religions have something about a worldwide flood, something about a coming messiah, something about living in a righteous manner.

Raised an atheist, these groups don't give me ulcers, everybody chooses for themselves what they will give themselves over to. What we are seeing now is the forcing of secular, magical sacred cow world views down our throats, we must submit to delusional dogmas and outright lies or there will be hell to pay.

The only thing they get right is that "hell to pay" part, a fiery pit patiently waiting for them on the other, invisible side of our material existence.

Posted by: Ju at November 04, 2023 01:26 PM (aTmM/)

278
Why did the Hamas attack catch Israel by surprise?

Israel had some sort of high tech border system, which the Dems wanted at our own border. They'd have been better off with the old standby of fence, another fence, dogs, guard towers, and lots of troops. Not to mention armed civilians as backup.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 04, 2023 01:26 PM (enJYY)

279 Life is so good for the modern American leftist, they have to invent problems. So they see racism everywhere. They create the trannie shit. They freak out because the erf is 0.3 degrees warmer.

It’s a psychological thing. We’re hard wired to worry. And if we have to real worries we invent them.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:27 PM (bWsRe)

280 Watching college football. Who funds the heretic HeGetsUs LLC? They run a lot of commercials.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 01:24 PM (PY/t0)

Posted by: G'rump928(c) repeats himself at November 04, 2023 01:27 PM (PY/t0)

281 "Your climate anxiety could feed an African family for a month!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 01:25 PM (MoZTd)

You're saying I must give up my Starbux mocha mint frappachinioso in order to stave off global warming?

Oh well, burn, planet, burn.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:28 PM (QBaJw)

282
It's Howdy Doody time.
Posted by: Howdy Doody at November 04, 2023 01:25 PM (vFG9F)

*pulls enormous mallet from behind back*

Posted by: Winchell Mahoney at November 04, 2023 01:28 PM (MoZTd)

283 I'm glad he disappeared because I was absolutely sure there was going to be violence. He was pretty smart in that he refused to talk to the women that confronted him.

If he started some shit with them it would have been lights out.

There one guy who was friends with a local cop who would stop by out of uniform to hang out. Months later he said the weren't to be found in any of the databases that track these imported jerks.

I used to joke that he was actually CIA and hiding out here because he was on a hit list over there.

Posted by: pawn at November 04, 2023 01:29 PM (QB+5g)

284 Watching college football. Who funds the heretic HeGetsUs LLC? They run a lot of commercials.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) repeats himself at November 04, 2023 01:27 PM (PY/t0)

Didn't you just answer your own question? Who funds them? College football watchers.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:29 PM (QBaJw)

285 washingtonpost
Advice: For some, psychedelic therapy can help with climate anxiety, which is unlike any other issue in psychiatry because the feelings extend beyond our personal narrative.
-
Drop a tab for Erf!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 04, 2023 01:17 PM (FVME7)

oh gawd, even Timothy Leary was more rational than that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 04, 2023 01:18 PM (S6gqv)
***

Jeez. The stupidity.
When I was a new platoon leader in Germany, (years ago) I got called into the barracks because one of my soldiers was wacked out. One of my better troops was sleeping, then sat straight up in bed and was rigid, staring at the wall. Turns out he was having a flashback from when he experimented with LSD while in highschool. We had to ship him back to the states. Never did learn what happened to him. Sad.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:29 PM (uSHSS)

286 Who funds the heretic HeGetsUs LLC?

-/

Same people who fund “moderate Republican” groups, ie leftists.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:30 PM (bWsRe)

287 Didn't you just answer your own question? Who funds them? College football watchers.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:29 PM (QBaJw)

It's broadcast.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 01:30 PM (PY/t0)

288 The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Advice: For some, psychedelic therapy can help with climate anxiety, which is unlike any other issue in psychiatry because the feelings extend beyond our personal narrative.

Treat the already mentally ill with hallucinogens? What could possibly go wrong? .

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 04, 2023 01:30 PM (V8he0)

289 RashidaTlaib needs to go to Gaza where she will be told to cover up, stand behind the men, and shut her mouth when the men are talking.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:16 PM (uSHSS)

A burqa would improve her appearance.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at November 04, 2023 01:31 PM (HfNu5)

290 Israel had some sort of high tech border system, which the Dems wanted at our own border. They'd have been better off with the old standby of fence, another fence, dogs, guard towers, and lots of troops. Not to mention armed civilians as backup.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 04, 2023 01:26 PM (enJYY)

Might have helped, if someone had merely peeked over the wall, and seen the Palis preparing for the assault.

The fact they didn't does represent a grand level of negligence on the part of Israeli "intelligence."

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:31 PM (QBaJw)

291 Then...a generation of a Marshall-like plan to rebuild, re-educate, and restore Gaza, under Israeli mentorship.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:23 PM (uSHSS)

Israel should annex gaza. Make it a subject territory of Israel. All the present population would become resident aliens, confined to remain in gaza for life. But three ways out: 1. death, 2. sincere and whole-hearted conversion to a sane religion, with the understanding that subsequent reversion to islam means death for sedition, 3. emigration to whatever other muzzie shithole will take them.

Resident aliens in gaza could work, would be required to go to a secular school run by Israelis, but could not vote, nor own real property. Bulldoze all the mosques, and hang all the imams.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 01:32 PM (VdrUC)

292 It's broadcast.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 01:30 PM (PY/t0)

Yes. Exactly.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:33 PM (QBaJw)

293 Watching college football. Who funds the heretic HeGetsUs LLC? They run a lot of commercials.

Posted by: G'rump928(c)

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I read something about them a year or so ago. It's a foundation IIRC, and most members are secret but one is known and shocking. Hobby Lobby founder, maybe?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at November 04, 2023 01:33 PM (StKe7)

294 Over reliance on tech is a thing in the corporate world too. So much is automated that when a problem occurs nobody notices. And then that problem builds and build and by the time someone does notice it’s a total clusterfuck, that could have been just a minor issue had a human been part of the process and noticed.

Posted by: Montec at November 04, 2023 01:34 PM (bWsRe)

295
We knew the Japanese were about to attack something on December 7, 1941. Except everyone who knew thought that everyone who needed to know knew.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2023 01:34 PM (MoZTd)

296 I sense a theme in the hairstyles among the young women in the orchestra.

Posted by: Emmie at November 04, 2023 01:34 PM (Sf2cq)

297 Go Rutgers.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 01:34 PM (PY/t0)

298 "Everything the social justice crowd told us was a lie."

That was a stemwinder. Thank you, K.T.

Posted by: creeper at November 04, 2023 01:35 PM (cTCuP)

299 I saw one recently where illegals are awesome because yeah, all of them are criminals, and millions of those are violent criminals, but one of them posed for a photo op giving a guy a guy a sandwich once so you should accept them into your home.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at November 04, 2023 01:36 PM (StKe7)

300 Treat the already mentally ill with hallucinogens? What could possibly go wrong? .
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 04, 2023 01:30 PM (V8he0)

Which is of course, the drug scourge in a nutshell. The vast majority of people who use illicit drugs (and abuse alcohol) are mentally ill. The drug is the treatment.

So. If you're going to get better, and most of them won't, you're going to have to stop abusing yourself with whatever substance you're taking to keep you from dealing with your mental illness.

And that includes a rather large portion of the people who are taking prescribed drugs for their mental illness.

Not all, but a lot.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 04, 2023 01:37 PM (QBaJw)

301 Hubby loves Marcus Freeman and believes he is the second coming of Lou Holtz. ND is getting their teeth kicked in by Clemson and I want to smack Freeman every time he rolls his eyes after a bad play. They're your players and it takes more than facial gestures to train them. Idiot.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 04, 2023 01:38 PM (2NHgQ)

302 Coffee is drugs.
No Coffee, I become dangerous.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2023 01:38 PM (C8EUP)

303 9-7 Rutgers over State at the turn.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 01:39 PM (PY/t0)

304 Coffee is drugs.
No Coffee, I become dangerous.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2023 01:38 PM (C8EUP)

If no coffee by noon, everyone becomes a target.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 04, 2023 01:39 PM (uSHSS)

305 Worth reading, from the official hegetsus.com website. Their mission statement.

He Get Us Has an Agenda

https://tinyurl.com/2yeczqgj

"He Gets Us is a diverse group of Jesus followers with a wide variety of faith journeys and lived experiences...We look at the biography of Jesus through a modern lens to find new relevance in often overlooked moments and themes from his life."

ctl+f

sin : not found
salvation : not found
crucified : not found
heaven : not found

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at November 04, 2023 01:39 PM (StKe7)

306 Took oxycodone for 4 days this week after foot surgery. Hate, hate, hate how it makes me feel. Started Tylenol this morning and very happy to be able to use that instead. Plus, I can drink.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 04, 2023 01:40 PM (2NHgQ)

307 And what made it even crazier was Indiana has two time zones. So with every county deciding on DST it was a fucking mess.
Posted by: Montec
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Bonus - If you are in the neighborhood of both zones, you can drive down the street and celebrate New Year's Eve again.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2023 01:41 PM (XeU6L)

308 Tylenol is bad for your liver. Just saying.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 01:41 PM (PY/t0)

309 G'rump. 2/day. My liver will survive over the next couple of days.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 04, 2023 01:42 PM (2NHgQ)

310 Driving home a little while ago,I was listening to WTOP describe a protest gathering in DC. They called it in support of the "Palestinian people" instead of Hamas. Called it an anti war protest. They make it sound like Israel started this war by attacking Hamas. The only aid talked about is for Gaza. Forgetting all the Kibbutzim that were burned to the ground with their civilian occupants inside. From the river to the sea is now acceptable language.
This is sickening.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 04, 2023 01:44 PM (t/2Uw)

311 Coffee is drugs.
No Coffee, I become dangerous.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2023 01:38 PM (C8EUP)

If no coffee by noon, everyone becomes a target.
Posted by: Diogenes
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It is essential for me. Caffeine is life support. Without it, the will to live begins to slip away...it provides the strength to go on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2023 01:44 PM (XeU6L)

312 I like the NSAIDS that give you an ulcer, at worst, if you take to much.

I like Ibuprofen and Naproxen.

Interestingly, long term use of Ibuprofen can cause bed spins.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 01:45 PM (PY/t0)

313 From the river to the sea is now acceptable language.
This is sickening.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

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The German Socialists blamed the Jews for runaway inflation.

Probably irrelevant, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Hamas is using American weapons to murder Jews at November 04, 2023 01:45 PM (StKe7)

314 Perusing the comments. Not one mention of 9/11. I guess we've forgotten that it's not just Jews the muzzies want to eradicate. Remember how palis in this country celebrated when the towers came down?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2023 01:45 PM (BdMk6)

315 Can you liquidate oxycodone and put it in eyedrops?
Asking for a dealer guy.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 04, 2023 01:47 PM (C8EUP)

316 G'rump. I prefer nsaids, however not allowed for me because of chronic diverticulosis.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 04, 2023 01:50 PM (2NHgQ)

317
I met a man who sang the blues... at a state park. He had a nice voice and was performing his own music on guitar. We congratulated him on his voice, I forget who I compared it to but it was favorable. He wanted to talk so we let him as we sat in a kayak as he sat on shore. He was a nurse working the covid ward at a major local hospital. This was at about the end of year two of covid. He said the entire experience of death and dying and locking out families from their loved ones had depressed him to such a level he wanted to take his own life. He called it PTSD. Somehow he got hold of some hallucinogen and said it had a profound influence of talking out his issues while being under its effect and his suicidal thoughts vanished. He said he was going to enter some sort of program where he could be a counselor and administer the same hallucinogen to other sufferers of PTSD.

I have no dog in the fight, but perhaps there is something to it. So many ex-military have issues, maybe it is something good in the right hands. I report, you decide. No arrogance here.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 04, 2023 01:52 PM (enJYY)

318 Saudi Arabia is huge. Right at the three corners of Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Jordan; carve out notch the size of Gaza or bigger and let their three brothers watch over them.
That's the solution.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 01:55 PM (jRxrY)

319 Remember how palis in this country celebrated when the towers came down?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2023 01:45 PM (BdMk6)
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Yes it was my final parting of the ways with the Democrat party because when I simply called attention to their merriment I was excoriated by both party and Jewish community leaders.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 01:55 PM (RIvkX)

320 G'rump. I prefer nsaids, however not allowed for me because of chronic diverticulosis.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine
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Same here, however, I have fallen prey to the ulcer problem, in a rather dramatic fashion, so NSAIDS are off of the menu.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2023 01:55 PM (XeU6L)

321 308 Tylenol is bad for your liver. Just saying.

Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Allergic. It's on all my medical records. Finally

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 01:56 PM (jRxrY)

322 Perusing the comments. Not one mention of 9/11. I guess we've forgotten that it's not just Jews the muzzies want to eradicate. Remember how palis in this country celebrated when the towers came down?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2023 01:45 PM (BdMk6)

sure do. giving out candy and sweets.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2023 01:58 PM (V13WU)

323 Same here, however, I have fallen prey to the ulcer problem, in a rather dramatic fashion, so NSAIDS are off of the menu.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 04, 2023 01:55 PM (XeU6L)

I think you can get "enteric-coated" pills which do not dissolve until they get beyond your stomach.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 02:01 PM (JE1ew)

324 And it's time for me to go meet the day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2023 02:01 PM (JE1ew)

325 At our latest campaign appearance, I met several Republicans -a couple of whom don't live in our township, who said, "I hope you will talk to the Republicans in Congress and tell them to get their acts together. "I said, "I'm not sure they would listen to me, but I appreciate your concern."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2023 02:03 PM (RSbhh)

326 Perusing the comments. Not one mention of 9/11. I guess we've forgotten that it's not just Jews the muzzies want to eradicate. Remember how palis in this country celebrated when the towers came down?

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And we struck back invading and occupying two nations that weren't involved while inviting Muslims over letting them build Mosques next to the conquered WTC site before we handed Iraq and Afghanistan over to the Taliban.

I don't think it's only the Palis in this country.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Biden hasn't lowered flags or called for release of Jewish American hostages at November 04, 2023 02:04 PM (dPePg)

327 Gaza
0-14 years 39.75%

27.2 births/1,000 (ranks 39)

Population Growth Rate: 1.99% (ranks 39)

https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/
gaza-strip/#people-and-society

Posted by: olddog in mo at November 04, 2023 02:04 PM (ju2Fy)

328
G'rump. I prefer nsaids, however not allowed for me because of chronic diverticulosis.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine

About two weeks ago I had to pick up wife after her latest colon scoping. Started talking to man who said he'd had it performed three times. Last time they snipped a foot of his bowel out because of diverticulitis. I grimaced.

Listen to your docs. I know people who have had a section of bowel removed and it makes life really really interesting. Like never being two minutes away from a bathroom interesting.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 04, 2023 02:04 PM (enJYY)

329 Turkey recalling its ambassador from Tel Aviv.

No surprise.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 02:05 PM (RIvkX)

330 From the river to the sea is now acceptable language.
This is sickening.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

From the river to the sea
Palestinians all must flee

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 04, 2023 02:07 PM (vHIgi)

331 Isn't low-residue diet the recommended thing for diverticulitis?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 04, 2023 02:12 PM (vHIgi)

332 I'll brb. Need to take my Metamucil

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 02:14 PM (RIvkX)

333
From the river to the sea
Then Satan's fork gets stuck in thee

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 04, 2023 02:14 PM (enJYY)

334 Srsly, hear about lots of people healing intestinal problems with carnivore diets. Hardly any waste, little work for the intestines to do.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 04, 2023 02:17 PM (vHIgi)

335 Divide by. Colon resection 4 years ago, removed 10 inches. Couldn't take anymore, so they left a fair bit of diverticulosis. Not having a working restroom at church for several months was interesting to say the least.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 04, 2023 02:18 PM (2NHgQ)

336 It's sorta like past the time to put an end to all of this pali-Israeli nonsense once and for all. Pull all of the stops. Put all of the tribal horseshit on the cutting room floor. Settle it.

I don't want another penny of my dollar going to any of these fucking savages. Kill each other. Be done with it. Fuck off.

Be a friend. Be an ally. Be an enemy. Whatever. Do we need to hold anybody's hand here?

We all 'share' a common history. Can 'share' be tolerated or must 'obliteration' be paramount?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 04, 2023 02:21 PM (PbTeh)

337 San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 02:05 PM

Turkey and Qatar seem to be pretty friendly with Hamas.

Posted by: KT at November 04, 2023 02:23 PM (rrtZS)

338 Turkey and Qatar seem to be pretty friendly with Hamas.
Posted by: KT at November 04, 2023 02:23 PM (rrtZS)
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Yup, on-board with the Islamist project.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 02:26 PM (RIvkX)

339 Trump - tonight - 6pm - RSBN

Yes, he says mostly the same things except for new barbs.
BUT it's refreshing to hear someone not down in the mouth
whining; someone who is a joyous leader into the fray.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 02:27 PM (jRxrY)

340
Srsly, hear about lots of people healing intestinal problems with carnivore diets. Hardly any waste, little work for the intestines to do.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at November 04, 2023 02:17 PM

It's a little tougher on the kidneys I would imagine. But a good exercise program that produces a lot of sweat would lessen that load I would think.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 04, 2023 02:30 PM (enJYY)

341 Heh.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 02:30 PM (PY/t0)

342 325 At our latest campaign appearance, I met several Republicans -a couple of whom don't live in our township, who said, "I hope you will talk to the Republicans in Congress and tell them to get their acts together. "I said, "I'm not sure they would listen to me, but I appreciate your concern."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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Looks like you're getting some positive attention. Great

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 02:32 PM (jRxrY)

343
Making beef stew today in honor of Vic. Miss that scamp.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 04, 2023 02:32 PM (enJYY)

344 We all 'share' a common history. Can 'share' be tolerated or must 'obliteration' be paramount?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 04, 2023 02:21 PM (PbTeh)
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2.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 04, 2023 02:33 PM (RIvkX)

345 >>>Posted by: Oaul at November 04, 2023 02:29 PM (hgDJr)

>Tribalism is the reason we lose wars. Hearts and minds, fuckos! You broke it you bought it.

Insanity.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 04, 2023 02:34 PM (PbTeh)

346 2

That's what they want

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 02:38 PM (jRxrY)

347 Can't put it in the form of a curse, that would cause it to backfire
to say the least.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 02:39 PM (jRxrY)

348 I smell ozone. Someone went poof!

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 04, 2023 02:41 PM (2NHgQ)

349 Good thing too.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 02:47 PM (PY/t0)

350 HEAVILY overcast out thar; looks like we're gonna get sumpin' !

'Puter says irs 57 deg but it don't feel like it !

Posted by: JT at November 04, 2023 02:47 PM (T4tVD)

351 I can only take so much of the Dunce's brain farts.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 04, 2023 02:48 PM (PY/t0)

352 The girl who might be cute if she wiped the look of judgmental disapproval off her face.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at November 04, 2023 12:17 PM (ScR16)

And shaved.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...anti-Semite at November 04, 2023 12:26 PM (3Gtis)
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And she was in a pitch black room.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 04, 2023 02:50 PM (XQKub)

353 House Republicans approved legislation Friday that would slash nearly 40 percent of the budget for the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

passed by a 213-203 vote,

NAY: (R) Brian Fitzpatrick (Pa.), Mike Lawler (N.Y.) & Marc Molinaro (N.Y.)
YAY: (D) Vicente Gonzalez (Texas)

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 03:00 PM (jRxrY)

354 Skip?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 04, 2023 03:34 PM (jRxrY)

355 I have an old "Atomic clock" (sets itself off a radio signal from WWV). I live in Arizona, so I don't mess with any of my clocks except that one. Tomorrow, I will move the switch from Pacific to Mountain time, because it has no switch for "Arizona".

Posted by: buddhaha at November 04, 2023 10:26 PM (cxzZn)

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