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THE MORNING RANT: Where is the Conservative Alternative to the Collapse of Municipal Government?
Last Wednesday, both Ace and Joe Mannix had great posts in which they sought to explain why Democrat-run municipalities are in a state of failure and collapse, especially in regards to the human-caused mass casualty event in Maui. They both had different explanations, and both of their analyses are true.
As I read those two essays, it reminded me of one of my great frustrations in the current political climate – there is a crying need for “municipal conservatism.” I now stand in awe of what Rudy Giuliani did as mayor of New York City, yet at the time I was critical of him for not being conservative enough. People like me in the 1990s thought conservatism was simply “lower taxes” and “less government.” We were wrong - that’s not what New Yorkers wanted. What they did want was civil order and effective government. Rudy delivered. Let’s take a quick look at a snippet or two from Ace’s and Mannix’s pieces: “Some Thoughts on Why Leftists Can Only Destroy and Never Create” [Ace – 8/23/2023]A few days ago, I wrote that Democratic governance is willfully incompetent because they simply are not concerned about the mundane-but-crucial tasks of basic management, instead choosing to focus only on quixotic campaigns to "save the world" and "end poverty." These goals are unaccomplishable, and are stupid, but they feel like heroic causes. In Maui, instead of making sure that their aging power lines were reinforced against being blown down by winds, and that highly-flammable grasses were cleared out from beneath these powerlines in case they did collapse, Democrat officials spent their money on Green New Deal boondoggles.“Wednesday Morning Rant” [Joe Mannix – 8/23/2023]
As the details about the disastrous Maui fire continue to unfold, many people are left wondering how the hell a foul-up this spectacular is possible. How did everything go so wrong at every level of the response? Why did Maui have to wait for water authorization? Why were the emergency sirens not activated? Why was traffic allegedly blocked from leaving on the only good road out? Assuming that all of what we've heard is true, how did so much go wrong? I think that the sad conclusion is that, in reality, nothing went wrong. Not officially. Everyone likely followed every guideline, rule, regulation and requirement. Procedural compliance was probably quite good. What apparently nobody did, however, was the single most important thing: think. The environment in which they operate has been designed to eliminate the need to think and ensure compliance instead.I have often described cities such as Portland and Minneapolis as being run by “Pol Pot Mayors,” that is, they are run by revolutionaries who seek to destroy all of the old order. They may talk about a utopia they are trying to create, but they are mainly just destroying their cities, intentionally, much like Pol Pot destroyed and depopulated Phnom Penh as a step in reorganizing society. Ace’s essay describes these type of Democrat-run municipalities.
Meanwhile Joe Mannix gave the example of Flint, MI where bureaucratic sclerosis in the manner of traditional Democrat governance brought about its water crisis. Municipalities like the ones Mannix describes might not be dysfunctional because they are chasing the green agenda, rather they are in collapse because of graft and patronage jobs for people with no capability to solve or prevent problems. There is a desperate need for a new era of Rudy Giulianis. We conservatives have abandoned the cities (and that includes me) and we mock city-dwellers for not voting Republican, yet we are not making a pitch for what we can do to make cities liveable again. Here is something I wrote before, so rather than rewrite it as if it’s an original thought, I’m going to plagiarize myself, because I do want to keep making this point.
Although Democrat mayors in the 20th century may have been liberal, they generally wanted their cities to be successful, prosperous, and orderly. But now we suddenly find that Democrat mayors and councils in many major cities are committed to deconstructing western civilization, and to prove their commitment they are aggressively trying to burn down their own cities and destroy all social order. It’s unthinkable, but it’s happening. It used to be that Democrat mayors and city councils were all about jobs programs, generous salaries and benefits for municipal employees, and a smorgasbord of services for residents. In exchange, the taxes and corruption of the power structure was tolerated, but citizens always felt they could rely on a certain level of policing and civil order. Republicans, by contrast, offered “limited government” and lower taxes, and they were routed at the polls for decades. With our major cities now boarded up and in ruins, this is an ideal time for Republicans to assert a “municipal conservatism” that our dying cities are desperately in need of. But the worn-out, libertarian, anti-government Republican platform of old will not fix the anarchy that has overtaken our cities. Heck, the left’s demand to abolish the police could itself be defined as “anti government”. What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; Usable parks; Schools that teach the “Three Rs”; Anti-vagrancy; Pro-small business; Pro-church; Pro-America. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization. Sure, let’s go ahead and promise to clean up the graft, to eliminate full-retirement for 50-year-olds, to reduce red tape, to replace pensions with 401ks, etc. But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities. There is a huge demand for it.[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 11:00 AM (7Q7Ca)
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California is an utter shithole, yet everyone thinks Newsom is awesome and doing a great job.
With the voter base this stupid, we're screwed at every turn.
With the voter base this stupid, we're screwed at every turn.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 11:01 AM (7Q7Ca)
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The great retardant to "municipal conservatism" is that it's well known that municipal governments make it particularly easy to steal: money, connections, favors, what have you. Thus the incentives all favor the would-be grifter and discourage the man of honor. (Who would want to be known as one of 'them?)
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at August 28, 2023 11:02 AM (Nmmyc)
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Eliminating the pension system in favor of 401k and wage parity with the private sector would be a nice start, but also pick up the GE management style and force layoff the bottom 5% every year. Then maybe the staff at the front desk will be more helpful.
Posted by: Tracer at August 28, 2023 11:04 AM (n/lW8)
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But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities. There is a huge demand for it.
That would be great. I need the city people to go home.
That would be great. I need the city people to go home.
Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2023 11:04 AM (ptElO)
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You can't get elected in a city offering to do the things that would improve the lives of the people living there.
The still need to get it gooder and harder.
No it doesn't hurt to have opposition politicians ask the people there "had enough yet?" but...they haven't.
And then even once they have you'll have to figure out how to defeat the machines that run the cities...
The still need to get it gooder and harder.
No it doesn't hurt to have opposition politicians ask the people there "had enough yet?" but...they haven't.
And then even once they have you'll have to figure out how to defeat the machines that run the cities...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:04 AM (lc5cP)
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Willowed:
446 377 367 Shusaku Endo had one of the most interesting internal perspectives Japan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:36 AM (LvTSG
I've been meaning to buy something by him. Not Silence though, not for the first one. Any recommendations?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 28, 2023 10:50 AM (0FoWg)
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I'm reading The Samurai now, and it's very good.
I've only ever read Silence and The Samurai, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:51 AM (LvTSG)
Love Shusaku Endo. A great writer.
One of my favorite novels, not just my favorite Shusaku Endo novel, is "Scandal", which concerns a famous writer having doppelgänger issues.
It is a comedy(!). Though being a Japanese comedy, it is more amusing than hilarious.
Endo's reputation as a serious writer gets in the way of some reviewers seeing "Scandal" as a comedy. The novel is a morally serious novel even though it is clearly a comedy.
Anywho, enough of that. "Scandal" is an excellent read.
Check it out.
446 377 367 Shusaku Endo had one of the most interesting internal perspectives Japan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:36 AM (LvTSG
I've been meaning to buy something by him. Not Silence though, not for the first one. Any recommendations?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 28, 2023 10:50 AM (0FoWg)
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I'm reading The Samurai now, and it's very good.
I've only ever read Silence and The Samurai, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:51 AM (LvTSG)
Love Shusaku Endo. A great writer.
One of my favorite novels, not just my favorite Shusaku Endo novel, is "Scandal", which concerns a famous writer having doppelgänger issues.
It is a comedy(!). Though being a Japanese comedy, it is more amusing than hilarious.
Endo's reputation as a serious writer gets in the way of some reviewers seeing "Scandal" as a comedy. The novel is a morally serious novel even though it is clearly a comedy.
Anywho, enough of that. "Scandal" is an excellent read.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 28, 2023 11:04 AM (QzZeQ)
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With the voter base this stupid, we're screwed at every turn.
Posted by: Sponge
"Things that can't go on forever, won't."
- (iirc) Glenn Reynolds
Posted by: Sponge
"Things that can't go on forever, won't."
- (iirc) Glenn Reynolds
Posted by: Tonypete at August 28, 2023 11:05 AM (IaTa3)
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But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities.
STEINER WILL COME
STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 28, 2023 11:06 AM (cv2yY)
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Here is something I wrote before, so rather than rewrite it as if it’s an original thought, I’m going to plagiarize myself, because I do want to keep making this point
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It's not plagiarism, it's "self-allusion" or "thematic construction!"
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It's not plagiarism, it's "self-allusion" or "thematic construction!"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:06 AM (t0OGg)
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I get the sense that not enough people have had the consequences of their decisions brought home to them yet.
Having visited Portland (ME) this summer, where there is an enormous homeless problem, it's clear that much of the working and lower-middle class is fed up with the existing policy. The problem is the wealthy, upper-middle and professional classes who want to virtue signal their compassion *and* still have the resources to keep their own neighborhoods free of drugged-out bums, so they have no incentive to change their voting patterns.
They have to be made to experience the homeless problem in a more personal way before there can be a broad majority for choosing the path you describe.
Having visited Portland (ME) this summer, where there is an enormous homeless problem, it's clear that much of the working and lower-middle class is fed up with the existing policy. The problem is the wealthy, upper-middle and professional classes who want to virtue signal their compassion *and* still have the resources to keep their own neighborhoods free of drugged-out bums, so they have no incentive to change their voting patterns.
They have to be made to experience the homeless problem in a more personal way before there can be a broad majority for choosing the path you describe.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:06 AM (bhRsz)
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yet we are not making a pitch for what we can do to make cities liveable again
Yes, I'm sure if we would only reason with the gib me dats in flashmobland, things would change. What's next, a stirring polemic about GOP candidate quality in Pennsylvania?
Yes, I'm sure if we would only reason with the gib me dats in flashmobland, things would change. What's next, a stirring polemic about GOP candidate quality in Pennsylvania?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 28, 2023 11:07 AM (KFhLj)
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It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 11:07 AM (0tGzX)
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With our major cities now boarded up and in ruins, this is an ideal time for Republicans to assert a “municipal conservatism” that our dying cities are desperately in need of. But the worn-out, libertarian, anti-government Republican platform of old will not fix the anarchy that has overtaken our cities. Heck, the left’s demand to abolish the police could itself be defined as “anti government”.
What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; Usable parks; Schools that teach the “Three Rs”; Anti-vagrancy; Pro-small business; Pro-church; Pro-America. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization.
I know it's not what you intend, but something to be very careful about with such a program is that it not become just better management of the decline. All to often, that's what the modern GOPe stands for: a slower, more efficient dive into the mud.
What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; Usable parks; Schools that teach the “Three Rs”; Anti-vagrancy; Pro-small business; Pro-church; Pro-America. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization.
I know it's not what you intend, but something to be very careful about with such a program is that it not become just better management of the decline. All to often, that's what the modern GOPe stands for: a slower, more efficient dive into the mud.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (I/Qkd)
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Give me two Panzer Divisions and I'll have NYC ticking like a Swiss clock.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (OTXUv)
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We need to start air-dropping illegals, bums, and druggies into gated communities.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (xTRSc)
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There is a desperate need for a new era of Rudy Giulianis.
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The way to get someone like him is to have the conditions demand it. NYC hit that point.
All of our major cities and some major states are at that point now, more or less. The question is whether the means for redress are valid. In the 80s, they were. Are they now? Could a revolutionary like Rudy (and he was, in the context of NYC governance) get elected these days, or is that avenue now closed either because of a radical political shift in the electorate (e.g., the concentration of progs in the major cities) or a total corruption of elections or both?
If that avenue is not closed, another Rudy is about to storm onto the field. If it is closed, then the decay continues until the structure finishes falling over.
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The way to get someone like him is to have the conditions demand it. NYC hit that point.
All of our major cities and some major states are at that point now, more or less. The question is whether the means for redress are valid. In the 80s, they were. Are they now? Could a revolutionary like Rudy (and he was, in the context of NYC governance) get elected these days, or is that avenue now closed either because of a radical political shift in the electorate (e.g., the concentration of progs in the major cities) or a total corruption of elections or both?
If that avenue is not closed, another Rudy is about to storm onto the field. If it is closed, then the decay continues until the structure finishes falling over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (t0OGg)
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I would rather sit up on my mountain and look down as it all burns down.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (wsSEe)
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The conservative movement should accept that the urban shitholes are not redeemable until their disdain for the pain they vote for exceeds their patience with the grift.
So "waiting forever" seems the course d'jour sir.
So "waiting forever" seems the course d'jour sir.
Posted by: sven at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (X0I7i)
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They have to be made to experience the homeless problem in a more personal way before there can be a broad majority for choosing the path you describe.
This is an important point. The most important thing the right can do, to the extent it can do anything - is to make the urban AWFLs actually feed direct pain for their virtue signaling.
Trump reducing mortgages deductions "for the rich" was a good step. As is Abbot and DeSantis sending illegals to rich places in blue states.
But we need more of it. A lot more.
This is an important point. The most important thing the right can do, to the extent it can do anything - is to make the urban AWFLs actually feed direct pain for their virtue signaling.
Trump reducing mortgages deductions "for the rich" was a good step. As is Abbot and DeSantis sending illegals to rich places in blue states.
But we need more of it. A lot more.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:09 AM (lc5cP)
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The Conservative alternative to Municipal Government is to do stuff by yourself, or with neighbors.
Self reliance is a virtue, so is voluntary co-operation. Normies can fix a pothole faster and cheaper than local government can....but there's less graft that way, so it's forbidden.
Self reliance is a virtue, so is voluntary co-operation. Normies can fix a pothole faster and cheaper than local government can....but there's less graft that way, so it's forbidden.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:09 AM (xcxpd)
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There is no alternative because there is no desire for an alternative. What is important to the Left is not competence but rather that some underserved person is in charge.
Black, gay, both if possible, that's the game. Just get in there and start looting the treasury. No one cares about garbage collection or potholes, what matters is getting rid of plastic straws or whatever the gaslighting of the day is.
Black, gay, both if possible, that's the game. Just get in there and start looting the treasury. No one cares about garbage collection or potholes, what matters is getting rid of plastic straws or whatever the gaslighting of the day is.
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 11:09 AM (dWjpk)
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18 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (wsSEe)
The urban shitholes are voting to make America detroit.
I am all out of give a fuck.
The urban shitholes are voting to make America detroit.
I am all out of give a fuck.
Posted by: sven at August 28, 2023 11:09 AM (X0I7i)
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Rudy Giuliani was a savior and the model for all other cities in the world. What he did -- with the help of his Police Commissioner and to a lesser extent, the governor -- was miraculous. NYC went from Bartertown to a clean, effective, modern city in only a few years.
Sadly, Rudy is also a model for what I've been screaming about in these comments. He is a model for how quickly things can change with the election of a single leftwing shitfucker (in this case, that chumpy cuckolded slovenly ratfuck Di Blasio). You can build the greatest city on Earth. It will be torn down and destroyed within two years of Democrap rule. No exceptions to this rule.
Sadly, Rudy is also a model for what I've been screaming about in these comments. He is a model for how quickly things can change with the election of a single leftwing shitfucker (in this case, that chumpy cuckolded slovenly ratfuck Di Blasio). You can build the greatest city on Earth. It will be torn down and destroyed within two years of Democrap rule. No exceptions to this rule.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
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I think it's funny how city people castigate suburban types as being selfish and only voting in their own self interest.
Yet, they perpetuate a system where these politicians work so they can benefit from the graft by promising the under class that they too will get their unearned portion of the pie.
Flint is a perfect example. They cleaned the place out and when it was time to rebuild, they hired incompetent friends and family to muck it up some more.
And last I checked, there were very few rolling heads coming out of that place.
Yet, they perpetuate a system where these politicians work so they can benefit from the graft by promising the under class that they too will get their unearned portion of the pie.
Flint is a perfect example. They cleaned the place out and when it was time to rebuild, they hired incompetent friends and family to muck it up some more.
And last I checked, there were very few rolling heads coming out of that place.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (KbCG3)
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This is an important point. The most important thing the right can do, to the extent it can do anything - is to make the urban AWFLs actually feed direct pain for their virtue signaling. ...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:09 AM (lc5cP)
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Except that they do not see the relationship. Virtually none of those people look at the world of ruins around them and their own voting habits for the past 20-40 years and see any connection between the two.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:09 AM (lc5cP)
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Except that they do not see the relationship. Virtually none of those people look at the world of ruins around them and their own voting habits for the past 20-40 years and see any connection between the two.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (t0OGg)
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But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities.
STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 28, 2023 11:06 AM (cv2yY)
Fun fact: I watched "Downfall" again a couple weeks ago, and unless I missed it, Hitler never actually says "Steiner will come." He actually says (loosely translating) "Steiner's attack will fix all this," which is when the generals have to give him the bad news and then the screaming fit starts.
He *does* later say "Wenck will come," referring to another army he'd ordered to relieve Berlin (spoiler: it didn't/couldn't), but I suppose that doesn't roll off the tongue the same way.
STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 28, 2023 11:06 AM (cv2yY)
Fun fact: I watched "Downfall" again a couple weeks ago, and unless I missed it, Hitler never actually says "Steiner will come." He actually says (loosely translating) "Steiner's attack will fix all this," which is when the generals have to give him the bad news and then the screaming fit starts.
He *does* later say "Wenck will come," referring to another army he'd ordered to relieve Berlin (spoiler: it didn't/couldn't), but I suppose that doesn't roll off the tongue the same way.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (bhRsz)
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and congrats to Sponge!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (xcxpd)
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More succinct: They're a bunch of arrogant assholes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (FVME7)
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In Maui, instead of making sure that their aging power lines were reinforced against being blown down by winds, and that highly-flammable grasses were cleared out from beneath these powerlines in case they did collapse, Democrat officials spent their money on Green New Deal boondoggles.
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Don't look now, but the equipment and debris at what they think was the origin point was moved before the BATF arrived and could investigate the scene per the required national guidelines.
https://tinyurl.com/2c36gqwr
Probably nothing. It only involves the Vegas incident commander who is also the police chief and coroner here.
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Don't look now, but the equipment and debris at what they think was the origin point was moved before the BATF arrived and could investigate the scene per the required national guidelines.
https://tinyurl.com/2c36gqwr
Probably nothing. It only involves the Vegas incident commander who is also the police chief and coroner here.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (q8U4k)
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Mark Steyn pretty much just reposts his old columns now. That is, when he’s not posting a video of his latest interview with Eva Vlaardingerbroek.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (xTRSc)
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With our major cities now boarded up and in ruins, this is an ideal time for Republicans to assert a “municipal conservatism” that our dying cities are desperately in need of.
I dunno. Sounds kind of like buying a rat- and mold-infested house with no roof and a broken foundation and thinking you can "fix it up."
I dunno. Sounds kind of like buying a rat- and mold-infested house with no roof and a broken foundation and thinking you can "fix it up."
Posted by: Oddbob at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (nfrXX)
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If that avenue is not closed, another Rudy is about to storm onto the field. If it is closed, then the decay continues until the structure finishes falling over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (t0OGg)
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Spoiler alert: the avenue is closed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (t0OGg)
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Spoiler alert: the avenue is closed.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (iFTx/)
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Good article Bjck
Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (0tGzX)
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TV newsie sez "another bus of migrants arrived from Texas and gov Abbott, uninvited"
HEY, NEWSIE, THE "MIGRANTS" WEREN'T INVITED EITHER!
HEY, NEWSIE, THE "MIGRANTS" WEREN'T INVITED EITHER!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (cv2yY)
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What Republicans need to offer is city services done right
Another point to consider. This is basically what CA/Northeastern Republicans have historically run on at the state level.
And...it just made it easier to usher in our current dystopia because they just went along with everything the left wanted at a strategic level. Yes yes they were more pragmatic and less corrupt then their D alternatives. But in the end that acted as a safety valve for AWFLs to virtue signal and help themselves - "Rudy isn't THAT kind of Republican!"
Another point to consider. This is basically what CA/Northeastern Republicans have historically run on at the state level.
And...it just made it easier to usher in our current dystopia because they just went along with everything the left wanted at a strategic level. Yes yes they were more pragmatic and less corrupt then their D alternatives. But in the end that acted as a safety valve for AWFLs to virtue signal and help themselves - "Rudy isn't THAT kind of Republican!"
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (lc5cP)
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The modern American city does not need reform, it needs death squads. I'm not kidding. That's my platform. "Vote for bear. He means it when he talks about liquidating the underclass."
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (KFhLj)
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Successful rebellions almost always start from the countryside and take over the cities last (if they start in the cities and succeed, it's because the countryside also backs the rebellion). The important thing now is to get a vice grip on areas already under sane governance. Think a local "Sons of Liberty" annoying the local libs into leaving. Once control of the countryside is firmly established, an ever enclosing noose can be put around the cities. This is the one great insight the otherwise inept lunatic Mao had.
Until there is firm control over areas outside of the cities, the cities can and should be avoided for anything but "undercover" work (i.e. NEVER go there as an open conservative). These sewers are a great place for undesirables to flee to from the liberated countryside, and the best part is (as Biden's "Dreamers" have shown in the last two years) as people pile into these places the quality of life goes from bad to appalling. Eventually the residents just watch with a sort of relief when the rebels move in, whether it's Laurent Kabila in 1990s Zaire or the NVA in Saigon in 1975. You end up winning by default. But we aren't there yet, so the cities can rot.
Until there is firm control over areas outside of the cities, the cities can and should be avoided for anything but "undercover" work (i.e. NEVER go there as an open conservative). These sewers are a great place for undesirables to flee to from the liberated countryside, and the best part is (as Biden's "Dreamers" have shown in the last two years) as people pile into these places the quality of life goes from bad to appalling. Eventually the residents just watch with a sort of relief when the rebels move in, whether it's Laurent Kabila in 1990s Zaire or the NVA in Saigon in 1975. You end up winning by default. But we aren't there yet, so the cities can rot.
Posted by: The Lower Depths at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (Dg7ng)
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25 Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (KbCG3)
Michiganders blame the Flint crisis on white republicans the infrequent times they have held state power.
There is no "there" there with the urban voter because they have no understanding of actual civic virtue.
Michiganders blame the Flint crisis on white republicans the infrequent times they have held state power.
There is no "there" there with the urban voter because they have no understanding of actual civic virtue.
Posted by: sven at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (X0I7i)
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That is, when he’s not posting a video of his latest interview with Eva Vlaardingerbroek.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (xTRSc)
yummmmm
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (xTRSc)
yummmmm
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (CIS44)
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Don't look now, but the equipment and debris at what they think was the origin point was moved before the BATF arrived and could investigate the scene per the required national guidelines.
https://tinyurl.com/2c36gqwr
Probably nothing. It only involves the Vegas incident commander who is also the police chief and coroner here.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (q8U4k)
Layers of coverup, redundancy.
See also the investigation into MLK's murder.
https://tinyurl.com/2c36gqwr
Probably nothing. It only involves the Vegas incident commander who is also the police chief and coroner here.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (q8U4k)
Layers of coverup, redundancy.
See also the investigation into MLK's murder.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (xcxpd)
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What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; Usable parks; Schools that teach the “Three Rs”; Anti-vagrancy; Pro-small business; Pro-church; Pro-America. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization.
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1) 90% of those voting Democrat in blue cities are voting to loot the treasury. That list is a "nice to have--but after I gots mine."
2) every Republican running in those blue cities had promised those for decades. And they get blown out. Because
3) there is no emotion appeal to any of that. City voters are, to the extent it isn't #1, are voting themselves as heros. "Ending racism" vs. "mandatory viewing of the annual audit report to the city council."
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1) 90% of those voting Democrat in blue cities are voting to loot the treasury. That list is a "nice to have--but after I gots mine."
2) every Republican running in those blue cities had promised those for decades. And they get blown out. Because
3) there is no emotion appeal to any of that. City voters are, to the extent it isn't #1, are voting themselves as heros. "Ending racism" vs. "mandatory viewing of the annual audit report to the city council."
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (Aj9wt)
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Can't wait for the first big city mayor to implement the two beers a week rule. That's gonna go well.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (hv9bm)
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Sadly, Rudy is also a model for what I've been screaming about in these comments. He is a model for how quickly things can change with the election of a single leftwing shitfucker (in this case, that chumpy cuckolded slovenly ratfuck Di Blasio). You can build the greatest city on Earth. It will be torn down and destroyed within two years of Democrap rule. No exceptions to this rule.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
Sounds like the solution is to outlaw the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
Sounds like the solution is to outlaw the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (bhRsz)
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Why should we want to make the cities livable again though?
Throughout Giuliani's mayorship, New York continued to vote for far-left radicals on a national level, harming the country.
It is good for places that harm America as a whole to whither and die and lose influence. Why should we want local Republican leadership in these places to revitalize them so that they have more power to harm the country on a national level?
Throughout Giuliani's mayorship, New York continued to vote for far-left radicals on a national level, harming the country.
It is good for places that harm America as a whole to whither and die and lose influence. Why should we want local Republican leadership in these places to revitalize them so that they have more power to harm the country on a national level?
Posted by: The Deuce at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (Fg3O8)
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I want to see NYC go full Mayan.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (OTXUv)
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What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; ...
Hmm. Electro-shock collars...
Hmm. Electro-shock collars...
Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (dNNCD)
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The suburbs happened.
I think that Portland is typical - 70% of the Portland metro lives in suburbs, and only 30% in Portland proper.
If only 20% of the population is hard-Left loonies, but they all live in Portland, that means that they have an overwhelming majority of the vote in Portland, even if they are a small fraction of the vote region-wide.
Portland is shifting towards moderation politically, but the most common response of people who are fed-up is to move out of Portland, which is rapidly losing population.
I think that Portland is typical - 70% of the Portland metro lives in suburbs, and only 30% in Portland proper.
If only 20% of the population is hard-Left loonies, but they all live in Portland, that means that they have an overwhelming majority of the vote in Portland, even if they are a small fraction of the vote region-wide.
Portland is shifting towards moderation politically, but the most common response of people who are fed-up is to move out of Portland, which is rapidly losing population.
Posted by: Drrolin' Joe Biden! at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (2tUFv)
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The problem is simple and obvious - no one can implement any solutions unless they first achieve a position of power, and through corruption and self-selection, it is now absolutely impossible for any conservative administration or candidate to take power in any major city in this country. No matter how good they may be, and no matter how bad the Dem candidate may be. (See Chicago's recent mayoral election)
Which means the only option left is for anyone with any rational thinking ability at all to flea these areas as quickly and completely as they can. There is absolutely no rational hope whatsoever that these places can be turned from their path of destruction, until after near-total destruction occurs. Some of the people in them will flee, but a lot of them are going to die.
Which means the only option left is for anyone with any rational thinking ability at all to flea these areas as quickly and completely as they can. There is absolutely no rational hope whatsoever that these places can be turned from their path of destruction, until after near-total destruction occurs. Some of the people in them will flee, but a lot of them are going to die.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (i9ffA)
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Small town city government can be a joke. I mentioned to my councilman that we sure have a lot of empty commercial properties sitting on a very busy highway. Maybe council could get with the owners or listing agents to see if anything could be done by the city to help get the properties bought or rented, and, you know, do a little job creation. " I don't know if that's something we can do, and anyways we still collect taxes if they're vacant". Same people who say "swearsies, the cops aren't running a speed trap for revenue".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (0EOe9)
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"Things that can't go on forever, won't."
- (iirc) Glenn Reynolds
Posted by: Tonypete
Forever keeps getting extended.
"Things that can't go on forever, won't."
- (iirc) Glenn Reynolds
Posted by: Tonypete
Forever keeps getting extended.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (63Dwl)
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Good Luck defeating the established Voting Apparatus in any Dem City.
You are gonna need a LOT of cash and cigarettes.
You are gonna need a LOT of cash and cigarettes.
Posted by: garrett at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (jCyPS)
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Except that they do not see the relationship. Virtually none of those people look at the world of ruins around them and their own voting habits for the past 20-40 years and see any connection between the two.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (t0OGg)
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Case in point: I had a colleague with whom I was friendly. We were at a conference near the home office (conference was in SF, home office is in Silicon Valley). We were standing at a window chatting and looking out at the tent city on the filthy sidewalk outside the fancy Hilton we were in for the conference. She plaintively asked in despair, "how did this happen? Why do we let people get like this?"
She was fairly open about her politics and she was a run-of-the-mill lefty. Not a hardcore prog, but a default lefty who was fairly committed to being a default lefty. I asked her at that moment, "have you considered how your voting habits relate to the world around you? Your party and it's ideas have been charge at all levels for at least a generation now."
She looked confused, then angry. She then changed the subject back to work-related matters.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (t0OGg)
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Case in point: I had a colleague with whom I was friendly. We were at a conference near the home office (conference was in SF, home office is in Silicon Valley). We were standing at a window chatting and looking out at the tent city on the filthy sidewalk outside the fancy Hilton we were in for the conference. She plaintively asked in despair, "how did this happen? Why do we let people get like this?"
She was fairly open about her politics and she was a run-of-the-mill lefty. Not a hardcore prog, but a default lefty who was fairly committed to being a default lefty. I asked her at that moment, "have you considered how your voting habits relate to the world around you? Your party and it's ideas have been charge at all levels for at least a generation now."
She looked confused, then angry. She then changed the subject back to work-related matters.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (t0OGg)
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With our major cities now boarded up and in ruins, this is an ideal time for Republicans to assert a “municipal conservatism” that our dying cities are desperately in need of.
I dunno. Sounds kind of like buying a rat- and mold-infested house with no roof and a broken foundation and thinking you can "fix it up."
St. Louis is the model of the future. It's a doughnut, comprising a core urban wasteland surrounded by productive suburbs. The transition to remote work is accelerating the process.
I dunno. Sounds kind of like buying a rat- and mold-infested house with no roof and a broken foundation and thinking you can "fix it up."
St. Louis is the model of the future. It's a doughnut, comprising a core urban wasteland surrounded by productive suburbs. The transition to remote work is accelerating the process.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (I/Qkd)
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Democrats have made the decision that it's no longer about power alone. It's elitism and power. They're the only ones that can be RICH and powerful.
You're a plebeian.
You're a plebeian.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 11:14 AM (7Q7Ca)
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Mark Steyn pretty much just reposts his old columns now. That is, when he’s not posting a video of his latest interview with Eva Vlaardingerbroek.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (xTRSc)
Word is he got pretty sick on the cruise this summer and is still recuperating.
Also, you're complaining about seeing more videos of Eva Vlaardingerbroek????
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (xTRSc)
Word is he got pretty sick on the cruise this summer and is still recuperating.
Also, you're complaining about seeing more videos of Eva Vlaardingerbroek????
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:14 AM (bhRsz)
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Michiganders blame the Flint crisis on white republicans the infrequent times they have held state power.
There is no "there" there with the urban voter because they have no understanding of actual civic virtue.
Posted by: sven at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (X0I7i)
Yup. But what's funny is, this stuff was literally coming to their front porches. The company they hired to fix the pipes was a cousin to a council member (I think). No experience. No crew. He was trying to poach guys from the crew that lost the bid.
And then they started digging up the wrong pipes and installing new ones incorrectly. They could literally see what was happening.
Didn't matter.
There is no "there" there with the urban voter because they have no understanding of actual civic virtue.
Posted by: sven at August 28, 2023 11:12 AM (X0I7i)
Yup. But what's funny is, this stuff was literally coming to their front porches. The company they hired to fix the pipes was a cousin to a council member (I think). No experience. No crew. He was trying to poach guys from the crew that lost the bid.
And then they started digging up the wrong pipes and installing new ones incorrectly. They could literally see what was happening.
Didn't matter.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:14 AM (KbCG3)
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Spoiler alert: the avenue is closed.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (iFTx/)
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Probably, yeah. That's my assumption, anyway.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:11 AM (iFTx/)
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Probably, yeah. That's my assumption, anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:15 AM (t0OGg)
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43 Can't wait for the first big city mayor to implement the two beers a week rule. That's gonna go well.
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Imma gonna go down to Old Town Alexandria and tell all those Dem wankers eating and drinking on King Street to stop at two beers cuz Our Democracy.
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Imma gonna go down to Old Town Alexandria and tell all those Dem wankers eating and drinking on King Street to stop at two beers cuz Our Democracy.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:15 AM (OTXUv)
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Spoiler alert: the avenue is closed.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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hahahaha
Like a bunch of Maui cops blockading the road while the fires rage behind the people.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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hahahaha
Like a bunch of Maui cops blockading the road while the fires rage behind the people.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:15 AM (q8U4k)
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Except that they do not see the relationship. Virtually none of those people look at the world of ruins around them and their own voting habits for the past 20-40 years and see any connection between the two.
Because for the most part they haven't felt a lot of pain. Yes the neighborhoods the AWFLs live in have gotten somewhat worse...but not bad enough.
They are noticing inflation...but their tech/bio/government checks are keeping pace.
And so on.
To look at it more crudely - when one of them is mugged he or she MIGHT start voting differently. But his friends won't. They'll argue the victim had it coming. So...we need to make sure they get "their fair share" of muggers and the same policing the normies in the middle/working class neighborhoods are getting.
Because for the most part they haven't felt a lot of pain. Yes the neighborhoods the AWFLs live in have gotten somewhat worse...but not bad enough.
They are noticing inflation...but their tech/bio/government checks are keeping pace.
And so on.
To look at it more crudely - when one of them is mugged he or she MIGHT start voting differently. But his friends won't. They'll argue the victim had it coming. So...we need to make sure they get "their fair share" of muggers and the same policing the normies in the middle/working class neighborhoods are getting.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:16 AM (lc5cP)
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What Republicans need to offer is city services done right: Policing; Patriotism; Cleanliness; Safety; Usable parks; Schools that teach the “Three Rs”; Anti-vagrancy; Pro-small business; Pro-church; Pro-America. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization.
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Ok, but how do you sell this as limited government??
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Ok, but how do you sell this as limited government??
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 11:16 AM (idBr5)
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38 Successful rebellions almost always start from the countryside and take over the cities last (if they start in the cities and succeed, it's because the countryside also backs the rebellion).
2 huge exceptions: The French Revolution, dominated by Paris, and their forces then slaughtered those areas in the countryside that didn't want to go along. The Russian Revolution was similar; it was centered in St. Petersburg and Moscow, and they also slaughtered those in the countryside once they cemented control.
2 huge exceptions: The French Revolution, dominated by Paris, and their forces then slaughtered those areas in the countryside that didn't want to go along. The Russian Revolution was similar; it was centered in St. Petersburg and Moscow, and they also slaughtered those in the countryside once they cemented control.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:16 AM (i9ffA)
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St. Louis is the model of the future. It's a doughnut, comprising a core urban wasteland surrounded by productive suburbs. The transition to remote work is accelerating the process.
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I remember when the city center was functioning. If you wanted Planet of the Apes you went to East St. Louis.
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I remember when the city center was functioning. If you wanted Planet of the Apes you went to East St. Louis.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (OTXUv)
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GOP activist Alex Talcott fatally stabbed in New Hampshire home, no arrest made
A well-respected Republican legal activist was fatally stabbed in the neck inside his New Hampshire home this weekend, according to the New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office.
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Investigators are trying to determine if the person who stabbed Talcott was acting in self-defense, the AG’s office said.
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Sounds like we need common sense wife control.
A well-respected Republican legal activist was fatally stabbed in the neck inside his New Hampshire home this weekend, according to the New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office.
. . . .
Investigators are trying to determine if the person who stabbed Talcott was acting in self-defense, the AG’s office said.
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Sounds like we need common sense wife control.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (FVME7)
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59 43 I've known a few people where a two beer a week mandate would kill them. As in dead. One guy, for sure. Had a fellow in the mill, a for sure fifth a day type, and he decided to cold turkey with no medical help. Died in about two weeks.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (0EOe9)
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St. Louis is the model of the future. It's a doughnut, comprising a core urban wasteland surrounded by productive suburbs. The transition to remote work is accelerating the process.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (I/Qkd)
My sister and her husband both work in downtown STL. According to them, no one will stay in the offices later than 3 p.m. anymore, because there's too much risk of getting accosted by homeless and/or gangbangers in the parking garage.
And yet, if they themselves don't vote Democrat (pretty sure they do), all their friends and co-workers do.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 28, 2023 11:13 AM (I/Qkd)
My sister and her husband both work in downtown STL. According to them, no one will stay in the offices later than 3 p.m. anymore, because there's too much risk of getting accosted by homeless and/or gangbangers in the parking garage.
And yet, if they themselves don't vote Democrat (pretty sure they do), all their friends and co-workers do.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (bhRsz)
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St. Louis is the model of the future.
Also Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore...
Chicago is likely to join that group over the next decade.
Also Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore...
Chicago is likely to join that group over the next decade.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (2tUFv)
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There is a desperate need for a new era of Rudy Giulianis.
Which is why he is now being prosecuted, for pointing out how rigged the system is.
Which is why he is now being prosecuted, for pointing out how rigged the system is.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 28, 2023 11:18 AM (oHd/0)
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To look at it more crudely - when one of them is mugged he or she MIGHT start voting differently. But his friends won't. They'll argue the victim had it coming. So...we need to make sure they get "their fair share" of muggers and the same policing the normies in the middle/working class neighborhoods are getting.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:16 AM (lc5cP)
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My point - I may have made it poorly - is that it won't matter. Even post-mugging, it isn't because of their ideas or votes or whatever. There is literally no connection between the decay and criminality and the political environment they helped to create.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:16 AM (lc5cP)
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My point - I may have made it poorly - is that it won't matter. Even post-mugging, it isn't because of their ideas or votes or whatever. There is literally no connection between the decay and criminality and the political environment they helped to create.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:18 AM (t0OGg)
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Investigators are trying to determine if the person who stabbed Talcott was acting in self-defense, the AG’s office said.
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Sounds like we need common sense wife control.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (FVME7)
Color me shocked it wasn't ruled a suicide.
Investigators are trying to determine if the person who stabbed Talcott was acting in self-defense, the AG’s office said.
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Sounds like we need common sense wife control.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (FVME7)
Color me shocked it wasn't ruled a suicide.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 11:18 AM (7Q7Ca)
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Except that they do not see the relationship. Virtually none of those people look at the world of ruins around them and their own voting habits for the past 20-40 years and see any connection between the two.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (t0OGg)
You know what's funny, Joe? Was also talking to a lefty co-worker one day (this was about 10 years ago). We talked politics a bunch. He brought up how conservatism was harmful, bla bla bla.
I asked a simple question: Okay, name one nominally conservative piece of legislation that has been passed and implemented in your voting lifetime.
After a few seconds, he said none.
"So, how can you blame it when by your admission it's non-existent?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:10 AM (t0OGg)
You know what's funny, Joe? Was also talking to a lefty co-worker one day (this was about 10 years ago). We talked politics a bunch. He brought up how conservatism was harmful, bla bla bla.
I asked a simple question: Okay, name one nominally conservative piece of legislation that has been passed and implemented in your voting lifetime.
After a few seconds, he said none.
"So, how can you blame it when by your admission it's non-existent?"
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (KbCG3)
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56 No, not complaining about Eva videos. But I really enjoy Steyn’s writing, and wish he would produce more new stuff instead of recycling previous columns. I mean, I know he had two heart attacks recently and is still involved in the Michael Mann litigation, so it’s not really his fault, but still. Aside from Eva, his site looks old and tired.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (xTRSc)
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. The opportunity is huge because Democrats now oppose all of those building blocks of civilization.
This is why the left is busy delegitimizing the building blocks of civilization.
This is why the left is busy delegitimizing the building blocks of civilization.
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (dWjpk)
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NYPost: The fed-up respondents gave Gov. Kathy Hochul a dismal 40% approval rating, a big drop from her 50% figure from a survey released just three months ago, according to the independent Unite NY’s Voter Empowerment Index unveiled Sunday.
Other state lawmakers fared even worse with a 27% approval rating, down from their recent 36%.
Overall, 53% of the state’s voters said they don’t like where the state is headed politically, and 40% said they are considering leaving.
Not surprisingly, 80% said they support term limits for the governor and legislature, which currently have none.
Other state lawmakers fared even worse with a 27% approval rating, down from their recent 36%.
Overall, 53% of the state’s voters said they don’t like where the state is headed politically, and 40% said they are considering leaving.
Not surprisingly, 80% said they support term limits for the governor and legislature, which currently have none.
Posted by: SMOD at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (RHGPo)
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Outstanding rant Buck, raising issues crucial to self-government. Ultimately, the tyrants in Washington don't impact actual issues in citizens lives nearly as much as effective local government matters.
In an American Conservative article (in this morning MR, from JJS) about the local impact in Farmville, Va. of Oliver Anthony, I was struck by the mayor's vision of his job. Partisanship aside, he knows he will spend part of every day discussing local issues with his fellow citizens and that's where his effectiveness will be determined (not in the national ballot box outcome).
A more different comparison to the Mannix/Ace pictures of Blue government could not be better captured.
In an American Conservative article (in this morning MR, from JJS) about the local impact in Farmville, Va. of Oliver Anthony, I was struck by the mayor's vision of his job. Partisanship aside, he knows he will spend part of every day discussing local issues with his fellow citizens and that's where his effectiveness will be determined (not in the national ballot box outcome).
A more different comparison to the Mannix/Ace pictures of Blue government could not be better captured.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (2k/G/)
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Ok, but how do you sell this as limited government??
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This is trivially simple. Whatever needs to happen has to happen at the lowest possible level. You need to know where the people in charge live, and be able to stop in and visit them if you want to talk to them.
Stop pretending the 10th Amendment doesn't exist. If it's not mentioned clearly and specifically in the Constitution, it's not a federal duty.
Interstates are federal roads.
Highways are state roads.
City/county are city and county roads.
My driveway is my road.
Make clear lines regarding ownership and responsibility, and if any of them need funding then the entity in charge has to figure out what to do at that level.
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This is trivially simple. Whatever needs to happen has to happen at the lowest possible level. You need to know where the people in charge live, and be able to stop in and visit them if you want to talk to them.
Stop pretending the 10th Amendment doesn't exist. If it's not mentioned clearly and specifically in the Constitution, it's not a federal duty.
Interstates are federal roads.
Highways are state roads.
City/county are city and county roads.
My driveway is my road.
Make clear lines regarding ownership and responsibility, and if any of them need funding then the entity in charge has to figure out what to do at that level.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (q8U4k)
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68 Akron and Youngstown raise their hands.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (0EOe9)
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Houston has a huge homeless problem.
Hundreds of millions of dollars from income earners have fled in the last few years.
The streets are undrivable, complete disrepair.
Crime is at an all-time high.
And Shelia Jackson Lee is likely to be the next mayor.
Fresh off of decades representing and presiding over some of the worst neighborhoods.
But "Republicans offer better governance" will resonate this time ....
Hundreds of millions of dollars from income earners have fled in the last few years.
The streets are undrivable, complete disrepair.
Crime is at an all-time high.
And Shelia Jackson Lee is likely to be the next mayor.
Fresh off of decades representing and presiding over some of the worst neighborhoods.
But "Republicans offer better governance" will resonate this time ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (Aj9wt)
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I remember when the city center was functioning. If you wanted Planet of the Apes you went to East St. Louis.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (OTXUv)
East St. Louis has dropped a few more levels since then. It's now at or just below "Mad Max" territory.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:17 AM (OTXUv)
East St. Louis has dropped a few more levels since then. It's now at or just below "Mad Max" territory.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:20 AM (bhRsz)
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Your party and it's ideas have been charge at all levels for at least a generation now."
This is the core of the problem we have.
Way too many people that will not associate how they vote with the outcomes they get. "I voted for the guy that said all the right things, how could that lead to a bad outcome?"
In fairness though having the GOPe exist as controlled opposition makes the next step in this conversation harder if you can even get them there, "Fine maybe the Democrats aren't doing a good job but are the Republicans any better?!?"
This is the core of the problem we have.
Way too many people that will not associate how they vote with the outcomes they get. "I voted for the guy that said all the right things, how could that lead to a bad outcome?"
In fairness though having the GOPe exist as controlled opposition makes the next step in this conversation harder if you can even get them there, "Fine maybe the Democrats aren't doing a good job but are the Republicans any better?!?"
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:20 AM (lc5cP)
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Joe Mannix nailed it. These people can't think. Their brain cannot process any information that disagrees with what they believe. Leftism is indeed a religion.
Posted by: creeper at August 28, 2023 11:20 AM (cTCuP)
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there's a meme on today's El Gato Malo stack
frame one - "The system is broken and must be fixed."
frame two - "The system is working exactly as intended and must be destroyed."
I read social media re: Philly and while I know that's slanted I also still go there a lot and try to talk to my hipster pals.
it's best to just step away and let them learn on their own. there is zero opening for any R to come in with great ideas to save them from themselves.
I'm very sorry to say this btw.
right now at least Philly is getting propped up substantially by federal tax dollars. and the residents do at some level know this. they will ALWAYS be Team D.
frame one - "The system is broken and must be fixed."
frame two - "The system is working exactly as intended and must be destroyed."
I read social media re: Philly and while I know that's slanted I also still go there a lot and try to talk to my hipster pals.
it's best to just step away and let them learn on their own. there is zero opening for any R to come in with great ideas to save them from themselves.
I'm very sorry to say this btw.
right now at least Philly is getting propped up substantially by federal tax dollars. and the residents do at some level know this. they will ALWAYS be Team D.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 28, 2023 11:20 AM (AcWfM)
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63 38 Successful rebellions almost always start from the countryside and take over the cities last (if they start in the cities and succeed, it's because the countryside also backs the rebellion).
2 huge exceptions: The French Revolution, dominated by Paris, and their forces then slaughtered those areas in the countryside that didn't want to go along. The Russian Revolution was similar; it was centered in St. Petersburg and Moscow, and they also slaughtered those in the countryside once they cemented control.
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Yes, but both of those were supported by the countryside at first. The Great Terror in 1789 involved the peasants seizing land and killing nobles in the countryside. The mass killings in places like the Vendee was several years later under Robespierre. The Bolsheviks fooled the peasants into supporting them over the Whites with slogans about "land, peace and bread". The mass confiscations of "War Communism" happened a few years later. In both cases, the peasants were fooled into supporting a movement that later killed them. Thankfully AWFLs have such disdain for "flyover country" that there's effectively no chance for that at present
2 huge exceptions: The French Revolution, dominated by Paris, and their forces then slaughtered those areas in the countryside that didn't want to go along. The Russian Revolution was similar; it was centered in St. Petersburg and Moscow, and they also slaughtered those in the countryside once they cemented control.
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Yes, but both of those were supported by the countryside at first. The Great Terror in 1789 involved the peasants seizing land and killing nobles in the countryside. The mass killings in places like the Vendee was several years later under Robespierre. The Bolsheviks fooled the peasants into supporting them over the Whites with slogans about "land, peace and bread". The mass confiscations of "War Communism" happened a few years later. In both cases, the peasants were fooled into supporting a movement that later killed them. Thankfully AWFLs have such disdain for "flyover country" that there's effectively no chance for that at present
Posted by: The Lower Depths at August 28, 2023 11:21 AM (Dg7ng)
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I asked a simple question: Okay, name one nominally conservative piece of legislation that has been passed and implemented in your voting lifetime.
The last real notable conservative thing congress has done was Welfare reform in the mid 90s.
That's...27 years or so of a hard leftwing drive.
The last real notable conservative thing congress has done was Welfare reform in the mid 90s.
That's...27 years or so of a hard leftwing drive.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:22 AM (lc5cP)
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I believe this problem is the core reason why Democracies have generally had a max of about 2 centuries before they break down and fall back into authoritarianism. The electoral system simply becomes too corrupt and too dominated by current power holders to ever be reformed, so the reform that does finally come is almost always in the form of the Strong Man who has some level of militia or troops loyal to him personally, so that he can impose order on his own terms and abolish the old systems. The Duke of New York is on his way.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:22 AM (i9ffA)
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They may talk about a utopia they are trying to create, but they are mainly just destroying their cities, intentionally, much like Pol Pot destroyed and depopulated Phnom Penh as a step in reorganizing society.
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Great Reset/Build Back Better 2024!
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Great Reset/Build Back Better 2024!
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at August 28, 2023 11:22 AM (gfCv4)
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East St. Louis has dropped a few more levels since then. It's now at or just below "Mad Max" territory.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:20 AM (bhRsz)
Carpenter filmed Escape from New York in East St. Louis back in 1980. It saved him a ton of money on set design.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:20 AM (bhRsz)
Carpenter filmed Escape from New York in East St. Louis back in 1980. It saved him a ton of money on set design.
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at August 28, 2023 11:23 AM (CjHGv)
Posted by: anachronda at August 28, 2023 11:23 AM (v3pYe)
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We just aren't making enough magic dirt to save people from themselves.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:23 AM (OTXUv)
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It's a cycle. For a time big cites (Chi, Ny etc) were a dangerous place to be and no one went there after dark. The city is where the poor, the underclass lived. Everyone who was anything lived in the burbs. Then urban renewal, gentrification, and 50 million dollar city condos. Now its back to Gotham. Nothing new.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 11:23 AM (idBr5)
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... This is trivially simple. Whatever needs to happen has to happen at the lowest possible level. You need to know where the people in charge live, and be able to stop in and visit them if you want to talk to them.
Stop pretending the 10th Amendment doesn't exist. If it's not mentioned clearly and specifically in the Constitution, it's not a federal duty. ...
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (q8U4k)
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Make Subsidiarity Great Again!
Stop pretending the 10th Amendment doesn't exist. If it's not mentioned clearly and specifically in the Constitution, it's not a federal duty. ...
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:19 AM (q8U4k)
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Make Subsidiarity Great Again!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:23 AM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:25 AM (xTRSc)
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Let her go
Into the darkness
Let her let learn
From all the things there
Let her go
Into the darkness
Let her go
Let her go
Let her gooo
Into the darkness
Let her let learn
From all the things there
Let her go
Into the darkness
Let her go
Let her go
Let her gooo
Posted by: Regular joe at August 28, 2023 11:25 AM (nnp+f)
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Thanks to the level of technology we now possess, I'd argue that cities are no longer necessary. They are a luxury good for some folks.
Unfortunately, there are too many people trapped in cities with no apparent escape. Imagine how they might thrive in a much smaller community with working municipal services.
Unfortunately, there are too many people trapped in cities with no apparent escape. Imagine how they might thrive in a much smaller community with working municipal services.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 11:25 AM (YIVH2)
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"If We Clean Up Our Mess The Conservatives Have Won"
Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2023 11:25 AM (e2onP)
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We were wrong - that’s not what New Yorkers wanted. What they did want was civil order and effective government. Rudy delivered.
They wanted civil order and effective government for a while AND they wanted someone else to pay for it.
They wanted civil order and effective government for a while AND they wanted someone else to pay for it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (z99Zw)
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My point - I may have made it poorly - is that it won't matter. Even post-mugging, it isn't because of their ideas or votes or whatever.
My own observations with lefty LIVs is that if they are the victim of crime they will change. But ONLY personally.
And then there is the machine factor. So...maybe it doesn't matter.
But "offering good government" won't do anything for those non-mugged LIVs. So, I say gooder and harder and let's see how it goes. And hey - let's call it "crime equity" right?
My own observations with lefty LIVs is that if they are the victim of crime they will change. But ONLY personally.
And then there is the machine factor. So...maybe it doesn't matter.
But "offering good government" won't do anything for those non-mugged LIVs. So, I say gooder and harder and let's see how it goes. And hey - let's call it "crime equity" right?
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (lc5cP)
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Leftists are always looking for the next "big shiny thing" to embrace. They drop whatever they're working on, half assed as it might be, and focus on something else. Nobody I've ever known who identified as "liberal" or a Democrat had anything resembling order in their personal life. Homes were cluttered and a mess, things that needed fixing weren't and so on. It's much the same with government by the left. Shit's always broken and will remain broken while that next big shiny thing is pursued.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (Q4IgG)
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88 The movie, Kill the Irishman, about union boss and hood Danny Greene was filmed in Detroit neighborhoods because they look like Collinwood (Cleveland neighborhood) did in the 70s. Collinwood still looks like the way it did in the 70s, but Detroit was deemed safer to film in. Let that soak in.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (0EOe9)
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Make Subsidiarity Great Again!
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I think a LOT of people would see the appeal in this.
"Oh, I don't have to pay for Portland to rebuild their city? And that St. Louis monkeyf*ck construction project now has to be funded entirely by taxes collected within the city? Sign me up."
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I think a LOT of people would see the appeal in this.
"Oh, I don't have to pay for Portland to rebuild their city? And that St. Louis monkeyf*ck construction project now has to be funded entirely by taxes collected within the city? Sign me up."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (q8U4k)
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nothing last forever
Posted by: REDACTED at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (us2H3)
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The Maya at least had cool architecture.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:25 AM (xTRSc)
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In the future, all buildings will resemble the AT&T fortress at 33 Thomas Avenue:
https://is.gd/eARSID
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:25 AM (xTRSc)
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In the future, all buildings will resemble the AT&T fortress at 33 Thomas Avenue:
https://is.gd/eARSID
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:27 AM (t0OGg)
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A focus on competence in government is what drives a concept of "candidate quality ". When clearly lots of people do not care about candidate quality.
We are way into President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho territory.
We are way into President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho territory.
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 11:27 AM (dWjpk)
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I am amazed Giuliani became mayor.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (idBr5)
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Yiu can’t help addicts until they make the decision themselves that they want to helped. City dwellers are addicts. Until they decide they need help, I will continue giving zero fucks what happens to them.
Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (HzzY3)
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Mitt Romney joins Miss Lindsey in the Ukrainian Blood Is Free club:
"We’re losing no lives in Ukraine. And the Ukrainians are fighting heroically against Russia, that has 1,500 nuclear weapons aimed at us. So, we are diminishing and devastating the Russian military for a very small amount of money."
Mitt's so proud of this that he posted his speech to his official X account.
https://tinyurl.com/3b7xsfsu
Remember that when Putin invaded Ukraine, Mitt blamed - Donald Trump.
Speaking of bloodthirsty warmongers, the fifth anniversary of John McCain's death was two days ago, and I bet you didn't even notice.
Shame on you!
"We’re losing no lives in Ukraine. And the Ukrainians are fighting heroically against Russia, that has 1,500 nuclear weapons aimed at us. So, we are diminishing and devastating the Russian military for a very small amount of money."
Mitt's so proud of this that he posted his speech to his official X account.
https://tinyurl.com/3b7xsfsu
Remember that when Putin invaded Ukraine, Mitt blamed - Donald Trump.
Speaking of bloodthirsty warmongers, the fifth anniversary of John McCain's death was two days ago, and I bet you didn't even notice.
Shame on you!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (2tUFv)
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Thanks to the level of technology we now possess, I'd argue that cities are no longer necessary. They are a luxury good for some folks.
Our cities mostly house the ultra rich and the ultra poor on government assistance and then we put the high paying jobs there so the ultra rich don't have to commute far.
It is an insane system.
I'd argue we should be adopting anti-Urban policies but we'd also have to combine that with sending the illegals/dreamers/etc home.
Our cities mostly house the ultra rich and the ultra poor on government assistance and then we put the high paying jobs there so the ultra rich don't have to commute far.
It is an insane system.
I'd argue we should be adopting anti-Urban policies but we'd also have to combine that with sending the illegals/dreamers/etc home.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (lc5cP)
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Canada has ‘game plan’ if U.S. takes authoritarian shift after 2024 election
https://tinyurl.com/4p42s9vv
Canada has ‘game plan’ if U.S. takes authoritarian shift after 2024 election
https://tinyurl.com/4p42s9vv
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (63Dwl)
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18 I would rather sit up on my mountain and look down as it all burns down.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (wsSEe)
Shove over.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2023 11:08 AM (wsSEe)
Shove over.
Posted by: creeper at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (cTCuP)
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This whole thread is the right's version of "what we need are social workers, not incarceration." You don't fix a rabid dog by petting it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (KFhLj)
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Wonder how he did it. I
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (idBr5)
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OT: I don't know if this has already been posted, but a video's all over Twitter this morning of environmental protesters blocking a road in Nevada until Tribal Police show up, and decide they are not having any.
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:29 AM (bhRsz)
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Given that Alex Talcott is being described as a "staunch GOP activist" I'm gonna lay my money on the square labeled "he was killed by his live-in tranny boy/girlfriend."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:29 AM (i9ffA)
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103 Gads, I despise Brutalism.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (xTRSc)
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I remember the recent water crisis in Jackson, MS. The national news portrayed it with furrowed brow as a racial question. Until the Army Corps of Engineers came in, flipped a few switches, and the pumps came back on.
I remember the recent water crisis in Jackson, MS. The national news portrayed it with furrowed brow as a racial question. Until the Army Corps of Engineers came in, flipped a few switches, and the pumps came back on.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (MoZTd)
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>Joe Mannix nailed it. These people can't think. Their brain cannot process any information that disagrees with what they believe. Leftism is indeed a religion.
Posted by: creeper
and I believe this is a direct result of the Left's capture of the press & media
Posted by: creeper
and I believe this is a direct result of the Left's capture of the press & media
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (geLO8)
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Canada has ‘game plan’ if U.S. takes authoritarian shift after 2024 election
If we get a free and fair election I would like to see the US shutter the border with CA until Justin Castro is put in front of a human rights tribunal.
But...I don't expect to see that.
If we get a free and fair election I would like to see the US shutter the border with CA until Justin Castro is put in front of a human rights tribunal.
But...I don't expect to see that.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (lc5cP)
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"what we can do to make cities liveable again"
Even God got to the point where he wiped things clean and started over with Noah.
Who builds the Ark this time - Elon ?
Even God got to the point where he wiped things clean and started over with Noah.
Who builds the Ark this time - Elon ?
Posted by: Next2Nothing at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (tA1/w)
120
nothing last forever
Posted by: REDACTED at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (us2H3)
You asked for it.........
https://youtu.be/vqnVhCADFHY
Posted by: REDACTED at August 28, 2023 11:26 AM (us2H3)
You asked for it.........
https://youtu.be/vqnVhCADFHY
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (7Q7Ca)
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Good morning all! Another day in the fraudulent govrnment rule of America, the real Oceania. Big Brother Biden and the Uniparty keep us in perpetual war with Eurasia and here on the homefront we keep getting told we're not in a recession yet, when it's obvious we have been for over a year. Oh and let's not forget the Two Minutes Hate where President Trump's picture is shown on state-run CNN and all citizens better scream, hurl invictive and gnash their teeth, lest they be callef White Supremacists, the new Agents of Goldstein.
Meanwhile at RedState.com, GOPe writer Joe Cunningham spins for his masters, claiming that DJT skipping the GOPe deabate in fact hurt him with the voters. Thank goodness for RedState.com. Their writers keep me laughing with their NeverTrump fantasies and lies. Good comedy gold there, Joey!
2020: NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE. EVER.
Meanwhile at RedState.com, GOPe writer Joe Cunningham spins for his masters, claiming that DJT skipping the GOPe deabate in fact hurt him with the voters. Thank goodness for RedState.com. Their writers keep me laughing with their NeverTrump fantasies and lies. Good comedy gold there, Joey!
2020: NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE. EVER.
Posted by: Tracy at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (feEL4)
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"We’re losing no lives in Ukraine. And the Ukrainians are fighting heroically against Russia, that has 1,500 nuclear weapons aimed at us. So, we are diminishing and devastating the Russian military for a very small amount of money."
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So we're involved in but not making choices in a battle that we're funding and egging on against a power that has 1500 nuclear weapons aimed at us?
Makes sense.
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So we're involved in but not making choices in a battle that we're funding and egging on against a power that has 1500 nuclear weapons aimed at us?
Makes sense.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (q8U4k)
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Our cities mostly house the ultra rich and the ultra poor on government assistance and then we put the high paying jobs there so the ultra rich don't have to commute far. ...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (lc5cP)
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You've described a third-world city: a filthy, crime-ridden environment that is a sea of poverty with glittering islands of great wealth. It looks great from a distance - or if you're above the fifth floor or so. Very rich and very poor and little if anything in the middle.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (lc5cP)
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You've described a third-world city: a filthy, crime-ridden environment that is a sea of poverty with glittering islands of great wealth. It looks great from a distance - or if you're above the fifth floor or so. Very rich and very poor and little if anything in the middle.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (t0OGg)
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111 This whole thread is the right's version of "what we need are social workers, not incarceration." You don't fix a rabid dog by petting it.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (KFhLj)
More to the point: there are some problems that cannot be fixed.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at August 28, 2023 11:28 AM (KFhLj)
More to the point: there are some problems that cannot be fixed.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (KbCG3)
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I'm sure the Dem mayors and governors could impose order and start arresting criminals, except for one thing: they are terrified of how it would look on Twitter. They'd lose their likes and upvotes. Can't have that.
Twitter is better than their reality, because on Twitter left-wing policies always work. Always. Reality, not so much.
Twitter is better than their reality, because on Twitter left-wing policies always work. Always. Reality, not so much.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (H9sxy)
126
The Ukes have developed an extremely clever way of crossing dense Russian minefields (AFAIK, it's new). It starts at about 2:30.
Don't bother with how awful you think the Ukes are. It's just an observation about a clever technological fix.
https://tinyurl.com/2w3wnsrd
Don't bother with how awful you think the Ukes are. It's just an observation about a clever technological fix.
https://tinyurl.com/2w3wnsrd
Posted by: Archimedes at August 28, 2023 11:32 AM (I/Qkd)
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We can't fix these problems bc the people in power positions won't allow for discussion or debate.
Those in media, education, mainstream culture, and political opposition literally won't allow rational debate.
So prepare for the alternative.
Those in media, education, mainstream culture, and political opposition literally won't allow rational debate.
So prepare for the alternative.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 28, 2023 11:32 AM (/nPvs)
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115 103 Gads, I despise Brutalism.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (xTRSc)
the only good thing about it is that no one will care when it is all demolished.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (xTRSc)
the only good thing about it is that no one will care when it is all demolished.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:32 AM (i9ffA)
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Regarding urban elections, since 2016, I am of the opinion that actual voters in urban districts are about 20 percent of the ballots that are submitted. What the Dems do now is manufacture ballots to match what the registered voter list says.
And the registered voter list in urban areas is filled with non-existent residents and addresses that no one actually lives at. Most of what the Dems do is to create a facade of people voting for them in urban areas.
The GOPe goes along with it because to combat it risks being called racist in the media, and it serves their purposes to have a bogeyman to run against which the essence of the uniparty.
Much of the left online too is probably fake bots which is something I think Elon found out when he actually had control of Twitter/X.
That is why a lot of people feel almost surreal and that is because you can take nothing--news, government statements, etc. for granted. Questioning everything is the only way out but that is difficult for most.
And the registered voter list in urban areas is filled with non-existent residents and addresses that no one actually lives at. Most of what the Dems do is to create a facade of people voting for them in urban areas.
The GOPe goes along with it because to combat it risks being called racist in the media, and it serves their purposes to have a bogeyman to run against which the essence of the uniparty.
Much of the left online too is probably fake bots which is something I think Elon found out when he actually had control of Twitter/X.
That is why a lot of people feel almost surreal and that is because you can take nothing--news, government statements, etc. for granted. Questioning everything is the only way out but that is difficult for most.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
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OT: I don't know if this has already been posted, but a video's all over Twitter this morning of environmental protesters blocking a road in Nevada until Tribal Police show up, and decide they are not having any.
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at
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HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
I'm not saying it would've been hilarious for any of those little trust fund girls to have gotten ventilated, but it would've been sort of hilarious in it's own way.
PLEASE!!! WE'RE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTESTERS!
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at
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HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
I'm not saying it would've been hilarious for any of those little trust fund girls to have gotten ventilated, but it would've been sort of hilarious in it's own way.
PLEASE!!! WE'RE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTESTERS!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (q8U4k)
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That is why a lot of people feel almost surreal and that is because you can take nothing--news, government statements, etc. for granted. Questioning everything is the only way out but that is difficult for most.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
"Everyone knows that the man will come by to collect your ballot and give you your $20."
Actual quote in a news story about urban elections.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
"Everyone knows that the man will come by to collect your ballot and give you your $20."
Actual quote in a news story about urban elections.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:34 AM (KbCG3)
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they are terrified of how it would look on Twitter. They'd lose their likes and upvotes. Can't have that.
Disagree. They approve of the criminals and their actions and are often formally working in league with them.
For example - Whitey Bulger controlled Mass (and the FBI) for decades. I think you'll find similiar arrangements in most blue states and big cities.
Disagree. They approve of the criminals and their actions and are often formally working in league with them.
For example - Whitey Bulger controlled Mass (and the FBI) for decades. I think you'll find similiar arrangements in most blue states and big cities.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:34 AM (lc5cP)
133
Gads, I despise Brutalism.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (xTRSc)
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Why do you hate the architectural achievement that your betters insist is a human ideal?
Be better, peasant. Take a trip to Boston City Hall to see real beauty:
https://is.gd/sAqtQq
https://tinyurl.com/4v8ff8yf
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:30 AM (xTRSc)
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Why do you hate the architectural achievement that your betters insist is a human ideal?
Be better, peasant. Take a trip to Boston City Hall to see real beauty:
https://is.gd/sAqtQq
https://tinyurl.com/4v8ff8yf
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:34 AM (t0OGg)
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128 Tom Servo, yep.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:34 AM (xTRSc)
135
Very rich and very poor and little if anything in the middle.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (t0OGg)
___________
Income inequality is always most pronounced in places run by Democrats.
Very rich and very poor and little if anything in the middle.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (t0OGg)
___________
Income inequality is always most pronounced in places run by Democrats.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 11:35 AM (MoZTd)
136
The Ukes have developed an extremely clever way of crossing dense Russian minefields (AFAIK, it's new). It starts at about 2:30.
Don't bother with how awful you think the Ukes are. It's just an observation about a clever technological fix.
https://tinyurl.com/2w3wnsrd
Posted by: Archimedes
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Very clever.
I can hardly believe they decided to tell everyone.
Don't bother with how awful you think the Ukes are. It's just an observation about a clever technological fix.
https://tinyurl.com/2w3wnsrd
Posted by: Archimedes
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Very clever.
I can hardly believe they decided to tell everyone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:35 AM (q8U4k)
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the only good thing about it is that no one will care when it is all demolished.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:32 AM (i9ffA)
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Not true.
Progressive academics the world over weep tears of bitter despair every time a brutalist structure is either torn down and severely renovated to make it less brutalist.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:32 AM (i9ffA)
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Not true.
Progressive academics the world over weep tears of bitter despair every time a brutalist structure is either torn down and severely renovated to make it less brutalist.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:35 AM (t0OGg)
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Democrats: the party of Death, Destruction, and Disorder.
GOPeeeeeeeee: the party of pussies who can't tolerate being written of negatively in the Lame Stream Press.
I fart in their general direction.
GOPeeeeeeeee: the party of pussies who can't tolerate being written of negatively in the Lame Stream Press.
I fart in their general direction.
Posted by: Ligma Balzak from Fuggencrass, Vulgaria at August 28, 2023 11:35 AM (JNTt1)
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Regarding urban elections, since 2016, I am of the opinion that actual voters in urban districts are about 20 percent of the ballots that are submitted.
Remember the thousands of people in the last couple of elections that showed up to vote in person and were told they already voted by mail?
Still haven't seen an explanation for that other then what you suggest here.
Remember the thousands of people in the last couple of elections that showed up to vote in person and were told they already voted by mail?
Still haven't seen an explanation for that other then what you suggest here.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:36 AM (lc5cP)
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The city is where the poor, the underclass lived.
Yep - the decline in crime starting in the 1990s made it fairly safe to live in fairly close proximity to the black underclass, so most cities flourished.
Now it's dangerous to live in close proximity to the underclass again, so the trend has reversed.
This isn't limited to white people - the black middle class is fleeing cities too.
Yep - the decline in crime starting in the 1990s made it fairly safe to live in fairly close proximity to the black underclass, so most cities flourished.
Now it's dangerous to live in close proximity to the underclass again, so the trend has reversed.
This isn't limited to white people - the black middle class is fleeing cities too.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:36 AM (2tUFv)
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116
I remember the recent water crisis in Jackson, MS. The national news portrayed it with furrowed brow as a racial question. Until the Army Corps of Engineers came in, flipped a few switches, and the pumps came back on.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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In the end stages of urban looting, the crooks aka local Dems always divert water/sewage revenues into city spending and don't do maintenance for years until the system literally breaks down from no maintenance for decades.
I remember the recent water crisis in Jackson, MS. The national news portrayed it with furrowed brow as a racial question. Until the Army Corps of Engineers came in, flipped a few switches, and the pumps came back on.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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In the end stages of urban looting, the crooks aka local Dems always divert water/sewage revenues into city spending and don't do maintenance for years until the system literally breaks down from no maintenance for decades.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:36 AM (X99mU)
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I can remember a few decades back when I made a wrong turn near La Salle University in North Philadelphia.
I ended up in a "black community". I don't necessarily mean the residents were Black, but the houses were black stained, as if they were still burning coal. It was like being on another planet or another time.
I ended up in a "black community". I don't necessarily mean the residents were Black, but the houses were black stained, as if they were still burning coal. It was like being on another planet or another time.
Posted by: SMOD at August 28, 2023 11:36 AM (RHGPo)
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Very clever.
I can hardly believe they decided to tell everyone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:35 AM (q8U4k)
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No reason not to. It isn't like that tactic can be defended against outside of air supremacy where everything bigger than a gnat gets shot down immediately.
I can hardly believe they decided to tell everyone.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:35 AM (q8U4k)
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No reason not to. It isn't like that tactic can be defended against outside of air supremacy where everything bigger than a gnat gets shot down immediately.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:37 AM (t0OGg)
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Don't bother with how awful you think the Ukes are. It's just an observation about a clever technological fix.
https://tinyurl.com/2w3wnsrd
Posted by: Archimedes at August 28, 2023 11:32 AM (I/Qkd)
an old English/American method was to drive a herd of cattle through the mine field. an old German method was to drive a herd of POW's through the minefield. An old Russian method was to drive a herd of their own conscripts through the minefields.
https://tinyurl.com/2w3wnsrd
Posted by: Archimedes at August 28, 2023 11:32 AM (I/Qkd)
an old English/American method was to drive a herd of cattle through the mine field. an old German method was to drive a herd of POW's through the minefield. An old Russian method was to drive a herd of their own conscripts through the minefields.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:37 AM (i9ffA)
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Apropos....would someone who enthusiastically supported Trump both times he ran, and voted for him twice , but now thinks he devolved into a one man clown show, be considered a Never Trump by the ( forever ) Trump acolytes?
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 11:37 AM (idBr5)
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130 OT: I don't know if this has already been posted, but a video's all over Twitter this morning of environmental protesters blocking a road in Nevada until Tribal Police show up, and decide they are not having any.
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at
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HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
I'm not saying it would've been hilarious for any of those little trust fund girls to have gotten ventilated, but it would've been sort of hilarious in it's own way.
PLEASE!!! WE'RE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTESTERS!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (q8U4k)
I am saying that. I am saying that it would be hilarious for them to be bleeding out from multiple GSW.
I hate traffic.
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at
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HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
I'm not saying it would've been hilarious for any of those little trust fund girls to have gotten ventilated, but it would've been sort of hilarious in it's own way.
PLEASE!!! WE'RE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTESTERS!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (q8U4k)
I am saying that. I am saying that it would be hilarious for them to be bleeding out from multiple GSW.
I hate traffic.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:37 AM (xcxpd)
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The Ukes have developed an extremely clever way of crossing dense Russian minefields (AFAIK, it's new). It starts at about 2:30.
We'll see how well that goes.
About six weeks till the start of mud season in Ukraine, which will make offensive operations impossible until the ground freezes in December.
We'll see how well that goes.
About six weeks till the start of mud season in Ukraine, which will make offensive operations impossible until the ground freezes in December.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:38 AM (2tUFv)
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We're asking the wrong question if we're trying to figure out how to get people in blue cities to vote Republican.
Do Democrats try to get conservative Christians in red areas to vote Democrat?
No, they do not. They try to figure out how to marginalize them and destroy their way of life. THAT is what we should be seeking to do to people in blue cities. They aren't countrymen to be won over. They are enemies to be destroyed.
Do Democrats try to get conservative Christians in red areas to vote Democrat?
No, they do not. They try to figure out how to marginalize them and destroy their way of life. THAT is what we should be seeking to do to people in blue cities. They aren't countrymen to be won over. They are enemies to be destroyed.
Posted by: The Deuce at August 28, 2023 11:38 AM (Fg3O8)
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About six weeks till the start of mud season in Ukraine, which will make offensive operations impossible until the ground freezes in December.
Probably for the best...at the rate Uke citizens are being fed into the slaughter they are running out of adult males to sacrifice.
Probably for the best...at the rate Uke citizens are being fed into the slaughter they are running out of adult males to sacrifice.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:38 AM (lc5cP)
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You poor Bastid.
You know what is worse than assigning 21st century morals to 18th century times?
Assigning normal morals to democrats and liberals. They don't think like you do dude or ma'am.
Baby killing, blacks can't find the DMV, zipper tits, fake cock/vag. Where do you find the middle ground?
You know what is worse than assigning 21st century morals to 18th century times?
Assigning normal morals to democrats and liberals. They don't think like you do dude or ma'am.
Baby killing, blacks can't find the DMV, zipper tits, fake cock/vag. Where do you find the middle ground?
Posted by: DOYLE at August 28, 2023 11:39 AM (Z8Yh2)
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"Everyone knows that the man will come by to collect your ballot and give you your $20."
Actual quote in a news story about urban elections.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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Yes, there is vote buying and one of the ways to do that is walking around money being distributed. The Dems are currently using gift cards which are distributed to their permanent registration/vote harvesting/vote fraud/ballot mules in order to maintain deniability. That is what a lot of ministers, ngo leaders, etc. rely on in the cities for some easy money.
Actual quote in a news story about urban elections.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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Yes, there is vote buying and one of the ways to do that is walking around money being distributed. The Dems are currently using gift cards which are distributed to their permanent registration/vote harvesting/vote fraud/ballot mules in order to maintain deniability. That is what a lot of ministers, ngo leaders, etc. rely on in the cities for some easy money.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:39 AM (X99mU)
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Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:36 AM (2tUFv)
Point being, it's cyclical. A cycle/ one cycle may take 40 years .
Point being, it's cyclical. A cycle/ one cycle may take 40 years .
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 11:39 AM (idBr5)
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"We conservatives have abandoned the cities (and that includes me) and we mock city-dwellers for not voting Republican, yet we are not making a pitch for what we can do to make cities liveable again."
Let all the Dem voters kill each other and /or die off from drugs and disease and stupidity? It would take a while but just might work!
Let all the Dem voters kill each other and /or die off from drugs and disease and stupidity? It would take a while but just might work!
Posted by: Ripley at August 28, 2023 11:39 AM (KrJTL)
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No reason not to. It isn't like that tactic can be defended against outside of air supremacy where everything bigger than a gnat gets shot down immediately.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Reading the links at the video people are pointing out that folks have been doing it since Vietnam, only now drones or something.
Still, good for them. Now Russia will have to surrender the Kremlin or something.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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Reading the links at the video people are pointing out that folks have been doing it since Vietnam, only now drones or something.
Still, good for them. Now Russia will have to surrender the Kremlin or something.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:39 AM (q8U4k)
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No, they do not. They try to figure out how to marginalize them and destroy their way of life. THAT is what we should be seeking to do to people in blue cities. They aren't countrymen to be won over. They are enemies to be destroyed.
And it is easier to use the existing laws, already on the books, to make life in the big blue shitholes untenable.
But as the GOPe endlessly tells us, "That's not who we are"
And it is easier to use the existing laws, already on the books, to make life in the big blue shitholes untenable.
But as the GOPe endlessly tells us, "That's not who we are"
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:40 AM (lc5cP)
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Can we start teasing about the Ukraine money laundering operation yet?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:40 AM (q8U4k)
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When I lived in Warren County, OH (reliably Republican), a new county courthouse was built in Lebanon. It was remarkably classical, not heavy, but elegant. Walking in the front door, you came into a lobby lit by sunlight from a circular cupola. I felt, for once, that my tax dollars were well spent.
When I lived in Warren County, OH (reliably Republican), a new county courthouse was built in Lebanon. It was remarkably classical, not heavy, but elegant. Walking in the front door, you came into a lobby lit by sunlight from a circular cupola. I felt, for once, that my tax dollars were well spent.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 11:40 AM (MoZTd)
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146 Please, we're environmental protesters! To which the Tribal Cops should have said "Yeah, but we have Iron Eyes Cody. We share him with Sicily".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:41 AM (0EOe9)
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142 I can remember a few decades back when I made a wrong turn near La Salle University in North Philadelphia.
yeah that is possibly the worst of the worst neighborhoods in Philly, omg
LaSalle is top of my "colleges about to close" list right now. they just sold off a couple of dorms.
just a horrendous location
yeah that is possibly the worst of the worst neighborhoods in Philly, omg
LaSalle is top of my "colleges about to close" list right now. they just sold off a couple of dorms.
just a horrendous location
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 28, 2023 11:41 AM (AcWfM)
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Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:34 AM
That thing is an abomination. Always thought so, always will think so.
That thing is an abomination. Always thought so, always will think so.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 28, 2023 11:42 AM (FVJNG)
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159 142 I can remember a few decades back when I made a wrong turn near La Salle University in North Philadelphia.
yeah that is possibly the worst of the worst neighborhoods in Philly, omg
LaSalle is top of my "colleges about to close" list right now. they just sold off a couple of dorms.
just a horrendous location
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I understand Temple is same. Dittos John Hopkins in Baltimore.
yeah that is possibly the worst of the worst neighborhoods in Philly, omg
LaSalle is top of my "colleges about to close" list right now. they just sold off a couple of dorms.
just a horrendous location
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I understand Temple is same. Dittos John Hopkins in Baltimore.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:42 AM (DmtxH)
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HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
These snowflakes are used to being treated very gently by cops in blue cities.
Tribal police on the rez are a whole different animal.
They were also blocking the only road between the rez and Reno - if someone on the rez has a medical emergency, they have to use that road.
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
These snowflakes are used to being treated very gently by cops in blue cities.
Tribal police on the rez are a whole different animal.
They were also blocking the only road between the rez and Reno - if someone on the rez has a medical emergency, they have to use that road.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:42 AM (2tUFv)
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Anyone read Kurt Schlicter's rant this morning? It's a heartwarming, optimistic, enlightening ode to delusional impotence. Gimme a break. Where are all these red state DAs and AGs who are gonna do this?
90% of red state politicians are in on the scam and secretly what to see Trump and MAGA gone. Trumpism is a threat to them as well as the Dumocraps. Does nobody get this??
90% of red state politicians are in on the scam and secretly what to see Trump and MAGA gone. Trumpism is a threat to them as well as the Dumocraps. Does nobody get this??
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:43 AM (iFTx/)
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here's what I predict in Texas...all of the big cities are underwater due to pension and health care promises, by a lot. I know in Houston the debt is about 300% or more of annual budget.
As soon as dems can cheat enough to flip us they will spread that love to the rest of the state.
As soon as dems can cheat enough to flip us they will spread that love to the rest of the state.
Posted by: DanMan at August 28, 2023 11:43 AM (SPSUr)
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I don't have a problem with Republicans offering a different set of urban solutions but please, let's not pretend there's anything conservative about it.
So don't use and abuse that word. It already means almost nothing .
So don't use and abuse that word. It already means almost nothing .
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 28, 2023 11:43 AM (FCbAQ)
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When city mayors talk about Global Warming and foreign policy, you can be sure that crime is soaring, the streets are full of potholes and the garbage isn't being picked up.
When city mayors talk about Global Warming and foreign policy, you can be sure that crime is soaring, the streets are full of potholes and the garbage isn't being picked up.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 11:43 AM (MoZTd)
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I would have liked to see the white old lady that got up suffer some consequences.
She thinks its a game.
She thinks its a game.
Posted by: DOYLE at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (Z8Yh2)
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149 About six weeks till the start of mud season in Ukraine, which will make offensive operations impossible until the ground freezes in December.
Probably for the best...at the rate Uke citizens are being fed into the slaughter they are running out of adult males to sacrifice.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:38 AM (lc5cP)
But the Ukrainians maybe, possibly took a whole VILLAGE. The Russians have to surrender now.
Probably for the best...at the rate Uke citizens are being fed into the slaughter they are running out of adult males to sacrifice.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 28, 2023 11:38 AM (lc5cP)
But the Ukrainians maybe, possibly took a whole VILLAGE. The Russians have to surrender now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (xcxpd)
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Patrick Howley
@HowleyReporter
LOOK WHAT I FOUND: John Kerry's State Department, days after President Trump won the election, put out a call for a contractor to "build a network of civic activists throughout Ukraine."
This has mostly been scrubbed. Good thing it's Archived 2009-2017.state.gov/j/drl/p/
previouscalls/264569.htm
https://tinyurl.com/293p55qh
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Nothing to see here, give Ukraine more funding!!!
@HowleyReporter
LOOK WHAT I FOUND: John Kerry's State Department, days after President Trump won the election, put out a call for a contractor to "build a network of civic activists throughout Ukraine."
This has mostly been scrubbed. Good thing it's Archived 2009-2017.state.gov/j/drl/p/
previouscalls/264569.htm
https://tinyurl.com/293p55qh
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Nothing to see here, give Ukraine more funding!!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (q8U4k)
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"But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities. "
The only way you will do that is to arrest the next SturmAntifa / BurnLootMurder mob, and if they resist, shoot the street clear.
Are you prepared to give those orders?
The only way you will do that is to arrest the next SturmAntifa / BurnLootMurder mob, and if they resist, shoot the street clear.
Are you prepared to give those orders?
Posted by: SDN at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (2gqBa)
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HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
I'm not saying it would've been hilarious for any of those little trust fund girls to have gotten ventilated, but it would've been sort of hilarious in it's own way.
PLEASE!!! WE'RE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTESTERS!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (q8U4k)
Yup. That video made my day.
They really thought that if they were nonviolent and protesting for a "just cause," no one could touch them. Funny what happens when nobody else thinks you're the good guys.
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
I'm not saying it would've been hilarious for any of those little trust fund girls to have gotten ventilated, but it would've been sort of hilarious in it's own way.
PLEASE!!! WE'RE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTESTERS!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (q8U4k)
Yup. That video made my day.
They really thought that if they were nonviolent and protesting for a "just cause," no one could touch them. Funny what happens when nobody else thinks you're the good guys.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (bhRsz)
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No reason not to. It isn't like that tactic can be defended against outside of air supremacy where everything bigger than a gnat gets shot down immediately.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:37 AM (t0OGg)
Unless the Russians have a whole bunch of plastic mines that aren't as different from the soil thermally....
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:37 AM (t0OGg)
Unless the Russians have a whole bunch of plastic mines that aren't as different from the soil thermally....
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (dWjpk)
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I believe this problem is the core reason why Democracies have generally had a max of about 2 centuries before they break down and fall back into authoritarianism.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:22 AM (i9ffA)
Didn't de Tocqueville say something about the people voting to give themselves money from the public fisc... or was that someone else.
Once that happens, though, the snakes can start dividing people for their own benefit and the fall begins.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:22 AM (i9ffA)
Didn't de Tocqueville say something about the people voting to give themselves money from the public fisc... or was that someone else.
Once that happens, though, the snakes can start dividing people for their own benefit and the fall begins.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (z99Zw)
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131 That is why a lot of people feel almost surreal and that is because you can take nothing--news, government statements, etc. for granted. Questioning everything is the only way out but that is difficult for most.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
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Umm, you're in a Color Revolution. Same one Obama ran in Ukraine.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
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Umm, you're in a Color Revolution. Same one Obama ran in Ukraine.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (J7wri)
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139 Regarding urban elections, since 2016, I am of the opinion that actual voters in urban districts are about 20 percent of the ballots that are submitted.
Remember the thousands of people in the last couple of elections that showed up to vote in person and were told they already voted by mail?
Still haven't seen an explanation for that other then what you suggest here.
Posted by: 18-1
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I am extrapolating from what the Jill Stein recount in Detroit produced but also with census figures and the excess in registered voters over population in a given area. I think the Kari Lake election in AZ in 2022 is an example of this level of voting fraud. From sheer mathematics, Conservatives are more or less about a third of the voting population up to maybe 40 percent. Leftists are stuck at about 22-25 percent. That leaves 'moderates' at about 35 percent. Basically, simply running mock elections in a simulation should yield more 'conservative' victories than is seen in reality.
Remember the thousands of people in the last couple of elections that showed up to vote in person and were told they already voted by mail?
Still haven't seen an explanation for that other then what you suggest here.
Posted by: 18-1
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I am extrapolating from what the Jill Stein recount in Detroit produced but also with census figures and the excess in registered voters over population in a given area. I think the Kari Lake election in AZ in 2022 is an example of this level of voting fraud. From sheer mathematics, Conservatives are more or less about a third of the voting population up to maybe 40 percent. Leftists are stuck at about 22-25 percent. That leaves 'moderates' at about 35 percent. Basically, simply running mock elections in a simulation should yield more 'conservative' victories than is seen in reality.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (X99mU)
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162 I used to love it when the Seneca Nation would shut down a road or two in NW NY. Albany would try screwing with the gambling and cigarette revenue so a twenty mile detour would come into play.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (0EOe9)
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Oy vey. That Boston City Hall. Looks like it was designed by Darth Vader and Associates, Architects.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (xTRSc)
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just a horrendous location
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 28, 2023 11:41 AM (AcWfM)
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Never been. I did tour Temple back in the mid-aughts and its area was no prize. I have to give praise to the people who do their talking points, though.
During the tour, they talked up their emergency call facilities. They are steel pillars with a bright blue light and call button on them, that connect to campus PD. Nothing unusual there - that kind of system was in place at every campus I toured. What stood out about Temple's was the number of them. Every intersection. At midpoints on longer sidewalks. In the middle of the grassy areas. Just a ton of the things. I asked why they had so many.
The tour guide got very excited and said, "it's so that if you're being pursued, you can just hit the buttons as you run. The computer system at campus police HQ will then predict your available routes and automatically dispatch officers to intercept you!"
It was a great answer that didn't at all touch on how bad the neighborhood would have to be to justify such a system...
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 28, 2023 11:41 AM (AcWfM)
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Never been. I did tour Temple back in the mid-aughts and its area was no prize. I have to give praise to the people who do their talking points, though.
During the tour, they talked up their emergency call facilities. They are steel pillars with a bright blue light and call button on them, that connect to campus PD. Nothing unusual there - that kind of system was in place at every campus I toured. What stood out about Temple's was the number of them. Every intersection. At midpoints on longer sidewalks. In the middle of the grassy areas. Just a ton of the things. I asked why they had so many.
The tour guide got very excited and said, "it's so that if you're being pursued, you can just hit the buttons as you run. The computer system at campus police HQ will then predict your available routes and automatically dispatch officers to intercept you!"
It was a great answer that didn't at all touch on how bad the neighborhood would have to be to justify such a system...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (t0OGg)
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146 130 OT: I don't know if this has already been posted, but a video's all over Twitter this morning of environmental protesters blocking a road in Nevada until Tribal Police show up, and decide they are not having any.
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at
One does not fuck with tribal police. You think the protections regular cops have are excessive? You ain't seen nothing.
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at
One does not fuck with tribal police. You think the protections regular cops have are excessive? You ain't seen nothing.
Posted by: Fuck trust fund Extinction Rebelionanyway at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (fhX0j)
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In the end stages of urban looting, the crooks aka local Dems always divert water/sewage revenues into city spending and don't do maintenance for years until the system literally breaks down from no maintenance for decades.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023
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The main public library downtown is clsoed for the next few days because of "problems with the air conditioning." Apparently, say the news mavens, since the library is closed on Sundays and holidays, the (daily/) maintenance of the A/C has not always been done, and now . . .
(Funny how we didn't have these kind of problems in the Sixties and Seventies)
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023
***
The main public library downtown is clsoed for the next few days because of "problems with the air conditioning." Apparently, say the news mavens, since the library is closed on Sundays and holidays, the (daily/) maintenance of the A/C has not always been done, and now . . .
(Funny how we didn't have these kind of problems in the Sixties and Seventies)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at August 28, 2023 11:46 AM (J2vNu)
181
For better or worse, Tribal cops do not follow the same rules as cops in the USA.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
182
In the end stages of urban looting, the crooks aka local Dems always divert water/sewage revenues into city spending and don't do maintenance for years until the system literally breaks down from no maintenance for decades.
That was definitely true in Jackson.
Not enough graft in maintaining the water system.
That was definitely true in Jackson.
Not enough graft in maintaining the water system.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:46 AM (2tUFv)
183
Are you prepared to give those orders?
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Maybe make them sit in the comfy chair a get a good talking to?
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Maybe make them sit in the comfy chair a get a good talking to?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:46 AM (J7wri)
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156 Can we start teasing about the Ukraine money laundering operation yet?
i'm surprised the russians left them enough washing machines to launder the money.
i'm surprised the russians left them enough washing machines to launder the money.
Posted by: anachronda at August 28, 2023 11:46 AM (v3pYe)
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163 Anyone read Kurt Schlicter's rant this morning?
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No.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
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No.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Posted by: This won't be popular at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (/nPvs)
186
Hilarity ensues.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:29 AM (bhRsz)
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MORE PLEASE! I love how the Sherriff just rammed through their "blockade" like it wasn't even there. Then swings back around and collars one of the idiots.
https://tinyurl.com/pzca8u7p
Posted by: Dr. T at August 28, 2023 11:29 AM (bhRsz)
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MORE PLEASE! I love how the Sherriff just rammed through their "blockade" like it wasn't even there. Then swings back around and collars one of the idiots.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (YIVH2)
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Yes.
But where do you think the Democrats learned all about electoral manipulation and the joys of one-party rule? At the local level. Many metropolitan areas have not seen a Republican leader in over 50 years.
But where do you think the Democrats learned all about electoral manipulation and the joys of one-party rule? At the local level. Many metropolitan areas have not seen a Republican leader in over 50 years.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (RIvkX)
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For better or worse, Tribal cops do not follow the same rules as cops in the USA.
It would be hilarious if the snowflakes had to face a tribal court, but I don't know if that is the case.
It would be hilarious if the snowflakes had to face a tribal court, but I don't know if that is the case.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (2tUFv)
189
Still, good for them. Now Russia will have to surrender the Kremlin or something.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:39 AM (q8U4k)s
I still keep an eye on the movements out of an academic interest, not because I care about either side. (I don't) But Russia is going to face some internal blowback from having liquidated the Wagner Group. Sure, they will now be integrated into the regular command, but their loyalty can now crumble at the drop of a hat. This doesn't necessarily mean openly rebelling, more like turning tail and running as soon as things get even slightly uncomfortable. Russia's army fell apart in 1917 over morale problems, and nothing says it couldn't happen again.
The Ukes on the other hand simply don't have nearly enough men to pursue this fight successfully. It's painfully obvious why so little has been happening.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:39 AM (q8U4k)s
I still keep an eye on the movements out of an academic interest, not because I care about either side. (I don't) But Russia is going to face some internal blowback from having liquidated the Wagner Group. Sure, they will now be integrated into the regular command, but their loyalty can now crumble at the drop of a hat. This doesn't necessarily mean openly rebelling, more like turning tail and running as soon as things get even slightly uncomfortable. Russia's army fell apart in 1917 over morale problems, and nothing says it couldn't happen again.
The Ukes on the other hand simply don't have nearly enough men to pursue this fight successfully. It's painfully obvious why so little has been happening.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (i9ffA)
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Oy vey. That Boston City Hall. Looks like it was designed by Darth Vader and Associates, Architects.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (xTRSc)
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It's designed like all authoritarian architecture: to be imposing and huge and threatening. The state is large, the individual is small. You *shall* feel afraid and uneasy when interacting with the state. You *shall* live with it glaring at you, at all times.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (xTRSc)
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It's designed like all authoritarian architecture: to be imposing and huge and threatening. The state is large, the individual is small. You *shall* feel afraid and uneasy when interacting with the state. You *shall* live with it glaring at you, at all times.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (t0OGg)
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Umm, you're in a Color Revolution. Same one Obama ran in Ukraine.
Posted by: Puddinhead
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It isn't a revolution per se--they are coups d'estat. That is a small determined group takes control of the apparatus of state for the purposes of looting and controlling the population.
The premise assumes that people are stupid enough to believe that an ersatz revolution is organic and supported by the populace when it is not. That in turn destroys the state and its institutions which is what military coups eventually did to Ataturk's Turkish regime. So you get an Erdogan.
Posted by: Puddinhead
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It isn't a revolution per se--they are coups d'estat. That is a small determined group takes control of the apparatus of state for the purposes of looting and controlling the population.
The premise assumes that people are stupid enough to believe that an ersatz revolution is organic and supported by the populace when it is not. That in turn destroys the state and its institutions which is what military coups eventually did to Ataturk's Turkish regime. So you get an Erdogan.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (X99mU)
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About six weeks till the start of mud season in Ukraine, which will make offensive operations impossible until the ground freezes in December.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
You know who else's Armys were caught up in mud season during offensives?
Posted by: The ARC of History!
You know who else's Armys were caught up in mud season during offensives?
Posted by: Tonypete at August 28, 2023 11:48 AM (IaTa3)
193
For better or worse, Tribal cops do not follow the same rules as cops in the USA.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
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Her Majesty is going through Oklahoma tomorrow. I'll let her know.
For better or worse, Tribal cops do not follow the same rules as cops in the USA.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
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Her Majesty is going through Oklahoma tomorrow. I'll let her know.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 28, 2023 11:48 AM (MoZTd)
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185 163 Anyone read Kurt Schlicter's rant this morning?
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No.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Posted by: This won't be popular at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (/nPvs)
Did you know that Kurt has written a fictional book that describes the downfall of America?
I found it odd how often this book was used as his source for information.
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No.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Posted by: This won't be popular at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (/nPvs)
Did you know that Kurt has written a fictional book that describes the downfall of America?
I found it odd how often this book was used as his source for information.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:48 AM (KbCG3)
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One does not fuck with tribal police. You think the protections regular cops have are excessive? You ain't seen nothing.
If you drive east from Portland to Bend, you drive through the Warm Springs Reservation.
I go precisely the speed limit on rez land.
If you drive east from Portland to Bend, you drive through the Warm Springs Reservation.
I go precisely the speed limit on rez land.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:49 AM (2tUFv)
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Mannix, I think you need to post a couple of busty boobette pictures to make up for those two of the Boston City Hall.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:49 AM (xTRSc)
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OK I am no stranger to the ghetto and when I visited a buddy at Temple, I was terrified.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 28, 2023 11:49 AM (RIvkX)
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No.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Posted by: This won't be popular
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I have him there for years. Same as Cernovich. PJ Media is infested with grifters and mediocrities just as National Review is.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Posted by: This won't be popular
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I have him there for years. Same as Cernovich. PJ Media is infested with grifters and mediocrities just as National Review is.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:49 AM (X99mU)
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It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 11:07 AM (0tGzX)
Time is an illusion.
Lunch time, doubly so...
Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 11:07 AM (0tGzX)
Time is an illusion.
Lunch time, doubly so...
Posted by: Ford Prefect at August 28, 2023 11:49 AM (KZaqS)
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181 Got kicked out of and black booked by tribal police at an Indian casino. Improper mask wear (the nose was exposed) and my big mouth. "You're just wanting to be a real cop and use that Glock" was in very, very bad taste on my part.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (0EOe9)
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Temple is not as bad as LaSalle mainly because TU is able to buy up large swathes of North Philly (which is bad, but honestly not as bad as Logan where LaSalle is) and gentrify it.
LaSalle is a small private college not a state uni like Temple so they can't. they are also currently very nearly bankrupt (hence selling off dorms).
the entire campus is within a massive stone wall with only two manned gates in and out.
I was an adjunct there and left after one term. I almost got carjacked midday leaving the walls of LaSalle and that was enough for me. that was back in the previous iteration of Shithole Danger Philly.
it IS a cycle. a cycle wherein Logan is always horrifying
LaSalle is a small private college not a state uni like Temple so they can't. they are also currently very nearly bankrupt (hence selling off dorms).
the entire campus is within a massive stone wall with only two manned gates in and out.
I was an adjunct there and left after one term. I almost got carjacked midday leaving the walls of LaSalle and that was enough for me. that was back in the previous iteration of Shithole Danger Philly.
it IS a cycle. a cycle wherein Logan is always horrifying
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (AcWfM)
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Sorry, but If I'm sitting in traffic due to environmental assholes blocking the road, they won't like me very quickly as I'm likely to be the citizen that takes it upon themselves to do the community at large a favor and clear the path of travel.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (7Q7Ca)
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170 The only way you will do that is to arrest the next SturmAntifa / BurnLootMurder mob, and if they resist, shoot the street clear.
we're gonna need more cossacks.
we're gonna need more cossacks.
Posted by: anachronda at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Jane Sanders at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (us2H3)
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For better or worse, Tribal cops do not follow the same rules as cops in the USA.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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For most purposes, they are equivalent to state governments on the reservation excepting only the federal government and courts.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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For most purposes, they are equivalent to state governments on the reservation excepting only the federal government and courts.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (X99mU)
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This slender brunette in her underwear thinks that brutalist architecture - and the governments that impose it on the public - is aesthetically and culturally destructive to the point that it is actually anti-human as such:
https://is.gd/0OmeuL
https://is.gd/0OmeuL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:51 AM (t0OGg)
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170 "But above all else, let’s promise and deliver a return to civil order in our cities. "
The only way you will do that is to arrest the next SturmAntifa / BurnLootMurder mob, and if they resist, shoot the street clear.
Are you prepared to give those orders?
Posted by: SDN at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (2gqBa)
The only man willing to do so will be in the mold of a Cromwell, a Napoleon, a Franco. That's why men like that rise to power during times like these. (And their key to power is that they build forces personally loyal to them only, not to any government)
The only way you will do that is to arrest the next SturmAntifa / BurnLootMurder mob, and if they resist, shoot the street clear.
Are you prepared to give those orders?
Posted by: SDN at August 28, 2023 11:44 AM (2gqBa)
The only man willing to do so will be in the mold of a Cromwell, a Napoleon, a Franco. That's why men like that rise to power during times like these. (And their key to power is that they build forces personally loyal to them only, not to any government)
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:51 AM (i9ffA)
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The ideal time for CoNsErVaTisM--and the only time that failed, apathetic non-ideology can even pretend to be viable--is when there's still so much to conserve that the inevitable slide back into chaos that begins as soon as the foot comes off the gas pedal of civilization is still in its early stages.
Now that our degraded former nation has been completely subverted and its demographics are destroyed beyond repair, its cities will go one of two ways. Either they'll descend into African or Latin American-style violence and dysfunction, for exactly the same reasons that African and Latin American cities all do so, or they'll be burned to the ground, metaphorically or literally, by a globohomo ruling class looking to pave the way for their new utopia of total state control.
Now that our degraded former nation has been completely subverted and its demographics are destroyed beyond repair, its cities will go one of two ways. Either they'll descend into African or Latin American-style violence and dysfunction, for exactly the same reasons that African and Latin American cities all do so, or they'll be burned to the ground, metaphorically or literally, by a globohomo ruling class looking to pave the way for their new utopia of total state control.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at August 28, 2023 11:51 AM (0Uf+z)
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The tour guide got very excited and said, "it's so that if you're being pursued, you can just hit the buttons as you run. The computer system at campus police HQ will then predict your available routes and automatically dispatch officers to intercept you!"
It was a great answer that didn't at all touch on how bad the neighborhood would have to be to justify such a system...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (t0OGg)
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I'm sure it works totally awesomely too! First, the odds that a scared-shitless college girl being chased by dangerous lunatics would have the presence of mind to stop and hit buttons as she runs away is very low. Second, even if she did this, the odds that fat, lazy, stupid "campus police" would arrive in time to do anything is approaching zero.
All these campus systems were pure security theater and to satisfy insurance requirements. IIRC, there were a number of well-publicized campus attacks and murders in the 80s and 90s, which prompted insurance companies to demand better security (theater).
It was a great answer that didn't at all touch on how bad the neighborhood would have to be to justify such a system...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:45 AM (t0OGg)
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I'm sure it works totally awesomely too! First, the odds that a scared-shitless college girl being chased by dangerous lunatics would have the presence of mind to stop and hit buttons as she runs away is very low. Second, even if she did this, the odds that fat, lazy, stupid "campus police" would arrive in time to do anything is approaching zero.
All these campus systems were pure security theater and to satisfy insurance requirements. IIRC, there were a number of well-publicized campus attacks and murders in the 80s and 90s, which prompted insurance companies to demand better security (theater).
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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191 Umm, you're in a Color Revolution. Same one Obama ran in Ukraine.
Posted by: Puddinhead
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It isn't a revolution per se--they are coups d'estat. That is a small determined group takes control of the apparatus of state for the purposes of looting and controlling the population.
The premise assumes that people are stupid enough to believe that an ersatz revolution is organic and supported by the populace when it is not. That in turn destroys the state and its institutions which is what military coups eventually did to Ataturk's Turkish regime. So you get an Erdogan.
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Very well said and true. But the shorthand is Color Revolution. Personally, I think the Yankees need a civil war in order to maintain their position. They are the ones that sold America down the river to the lowest bidder, China. They made fast cash but now the bills are starting to pile up and they ain't got the scratch to pay them.
Posted by: Puddinhead
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It isn't a revolution per se--they are coups d'estat. That is a small determined group takes control of the apparatus of state for the purposes of looting and controlling the population.
The premise assumes that people are stupid enough to believe that an ersatz revolution is organic and supported by the populace when it is not. That in turn destroys the state and its institutions which is what military coups eventually did to Ataturk's Turkish regime. So you get an Erdogan.
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Very well said and true. But the shorthand is Color Revolution. Personally, I think the Yankees need a civil war in order to maintain their position. They are the ones that sold America down the river to the lowest bidder, China. They made fast cash but now the bills are starting to pile up and they ain't got the scratch to pay them.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (J7wri)
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... the entire campus is within a massive stone wall with only two manned gates in and out. ...
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (AcWfM)
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Sooooo, it's a castle. A straight-up medieval keep, for the same reason: to protect the inhabitants from marauders.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 28, 2023 11:50 AM (AcWfM)
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Sooooo, it's a castle. A straight-up medieval keep, for the same reason: to protect the inhabitants from marauders.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (t0OGg)
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It would be hilarious if the snowflakes had to face a tribal court, but I don't know if that is the case.
There have been a couple of cases in Oregon where tribal casinos have invalidated slot machine jackpots on the grounds that the machine was "malfunctioning".
Don't like it? Go to tribal court and state your case.
Giggle.
There have been a couple of cases in Oregon where tribal casinos have invalidated slot machine jackpots on the grounds that the machine was "malfunctioning".
Don't like it? Go to tribal court and state your case.
Giggle.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (2tUFv)
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That was definitely true in Jackson.
Not enough graft in maintaining the water system.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
And Flint, and NYC, and Atlanta, and Birmingham, etc. City governments essentially become predatory in regards to tax farming their residents while providing little or no city services.
Not enough graft in maintaining the water system.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
And Flint, and NYC, and Atlanta, and Birmingham, etc. City governments essentially become predatory in regards to tax farming their residents while providing little or no city services.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (X99mU)
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206 This slender brunette in her underwear thinks that brutalist architecture - and the governments that impose it on the public - is aesthetically and culturally destructive to the point that it is actually anti-human as such:
https://is.gd/0OmeuL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:51 AM (t0OGg)
Long legs, nice abs
https://is.gd/0OmeuL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:51 AM (t0OGg)
Long legs, nice abs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (xcxpd)
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About six weeks till the start of mud season in Ukraine, which will make offensive operations impossible until the ground freezes in December.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
You know who else's Armys were caught up in mud season during offensives?
Posted by: Tonypete at August 28, 2023 11:48 AM (IaTa3)
Alexander's ?
Posted by: The ARC of History!
You know who else's Armys were caught up in mud season during offensives?
Posted by: Tonypete at August 28, 2023 11:48 AM (IaTa3)
Alexander's ?
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (idBr5)
216
Did you know that Kurt has written a fictional book that describes the downfall of America?
A series. The first couple are okay but he's a workmanlike writer not a great author. After the first two it devolves into just gunporn, inside jokes with his friends, and fan service.
Still he's a believer in institutions much like Trump. And he naively thinks that the New Rules the Dems keep insisting on will be used against them and they will regret them. By whom? The Murder Turtle?
A series. The first couple are okay but he's a workmanlike writer not a great author. After the first two it devolves into just gunporn, inside jokes with his friends, and fan service.
Still he's a believer in institutions much like Trump. And he naively thinks that the New Rules the Dems keep insisting on will be used against them and they will regret them. By whom? The Murder Turtle?
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (dWjpk)
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I'm sure it works totally awesomely too! First, the odds that a scared-shitless college girl being chased by dangerous lunatics would have the presence of mind to stop and hit buttons as she runs away is very low. Second, even if she did this, the odds that fat, lazy, stupid "campus police" would arrive in time to do anything is approaching zero.
All these campus systems were pure security theater and to satisfy insurance requirements. IIRC, there were a number of well-publicized campus attacks and murders in the 80s and 90s, which prompted insurance companies to demand better security (theater).
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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The former isn't a real problem, I don't think. The buttons were big. No need to even slow down. Just smash it on your way by. The rest, though ...
All these campus systems were pure security theater and to satisfy insurance requirements. IIRC, there were a number of well-publicized campus attacks and murders in the 80s and 90s, which prompted insurance companies to demand better security (theater).
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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The former isn't a real problem, I don't think. The buttons were big. No need to even slow down. Just smash it on your way by. The rest, though ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (t0OGg)
218
That Boston City Hall is so ugly that it makes me wish that it is designated Ground Zero for a nuke in the next war.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (i9ffA)
219
There have been a couple of cases in Oregon where tribal casinos have invalidated slot machine jackpots on the grounds that the machine was "malfunctioning".
Don't like it? Go to tribal court and state your case.
Giggle.
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You just described DC's Parking Pirates. They have boots, too.
Don't like it? Go to tribal court and state your case.
Giggle.
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You just described DC's Parking Pirates. They have boots, too.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:54 AM (DmtxH)
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216 Did you know that Kurt has written a fictional book that describes the downfall of America?
A series. The first couple are okay but he's a workmanlike writer not a great author. After the first two it devolves into just gunporn, inside jokes with his friends, and fan service.
Still he's a believer in institutions much like Trump. And he naively thinks that the New Rules the Dems keep insisting on will be used against them and they will regret them. By whom? The Murder Turtle?
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (dWjpk)
Sorry, was being sarcastic. He mentions his books in all of his columns. Or at least he did. I stopped reading him.
A series. The first couple are okay but he's a workmanlike writer not a great author. After the first two it devolves into just gunporn, inside jokes with his friends, and fan service.
Still he's a believer in institutions much like Trump. And he naively thinks that the New Rules the Dems keep insisting on will be used against them and they will regret them. By whom? The Murder Turtle?
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (dWjpk)
Sorry, was being sarcastic. He mentions his books in all of his columns. Or at least he did. I stopped reading him.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:54 AM (KbCG3)
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Regarding urban elections, since 2016, I am of the opinion that actual voters in urban districts are about 20 percent of the ballots that are submitted. What the Dems do now is manufacture ballots to match what the registered voter list says.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
I'm not sure they even bother to manufacture ballots. Detroit had more "votes" tallied than ballot. Georgia has "votes" for which no ballots can be found. As long as no one is permitted to question the number submitted, why go to the effort of producing the paper?
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
I'm not sure they even bother to manufacture ballots. Detroit had more "votes" tallied than ballot. Georgia has "votes" for which no ballots can be found. As long as no one is permitted to question the number submitted, why go to the effort of producing the paper?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2023 11:54 AM (z99Zw)
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Very well said and true. But the shorthand is Color Revolution. Personally, I think the Yankees need a civil war in order to maintain their position. They are the ones that sold America down the river to the lowest bidder, China. They made fast cash but now the bills are starting to pile up and they ain't got the scratch to pay them.
Posted by: Puddinhead
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We are more likely to see a genuine Revolution on the French model when the money runs out--not a civil war like the English or American Civil Wars.
Posted by: Puddinhead
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We are more likely to see a genuine Revolution on the French model when the money runs out--not a civil war like the English or American Civil Wars.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:54 AM (X99mU)
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219 There have been a couple of cases in Oregon where tribal casinos have invalidated slot machine jackpots on the grounds that the machine was "malfunctioning".
indian givers
indian givers
Posted by: tonto at August 28, 2023 11:55 AM (us2H3)
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It's funny how the Four Corners in the SW is touted as being the only place where four states touch, is not actually under the jurisdiction of any of those states because it's on reservation land. So those four "states" are more or less a legal fiction at that site.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 11:55 AM (xTRSc)
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The federal judge presiding over Special Counsel Jack Smith’s case against former President Trump alleging interference in the 2020 presidential election set the trial date for March 4, 2024--right in the middle of the GOP presidential primary calendar.
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 11:55 AM (geLO8)
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194 185 163 Anyone read Kurt Schlicter's rant this morning?
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No.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Posted by: This won't be popular at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (/nPvs)
Did you know that Kurt has written a fictional book that describes the downfall of America?
I found it odd how often this book was used as his source for information.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:48 AM (KbCG3)
It's not even great fiction. It's ok, but no better than that.
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No.
I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Posted by: This won't be popular at August 28, 2023 11:47 AM (/nPvs)
Did you know that Kurt has written a fictional book that describes the downfall of America?
I found it odd how often this book was used as his source for information.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 28, 2023 11:48 AM (KbCG3)
It's not even great fiction. It's ok, but no better than that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:56 AM (xcxpd)
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Try sitting in a ghetto intersection with a surveying instrument. Haven't got my ass beat yet.
"What you lookin at?" comes up a lot. Crazy homeless scare me more than thugs. Thugs might be reasonable.
Plunging a plumb bob into a San Fran crazy fucks chest has been contemplated.
"What you lookin at?" comes up a lot. Crazy homeless scare me more than thugs. Thugs might be reasonable.
Plunging a plumb bob into a San Fran crazy fucks chest has been contemplated.
Posted by: DOYLE at August 28, 2023 11:56 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Jack Posobiec has mostly stopped pushing pillows, and now is pushing Donald Trump.
I suspect that there is money involved.
Jack Posobiec has mostly stopped pushing pillows, and now is pushing Donald Trump.
I suspect that there is money involved.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:56 AM (2tUFv)
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All major cities, over 100,000, should be declared "No Vote" zones and the feral savages who live in them lose their vote for any and all elections.
To Protect Our Democracy.
To Protect Our Democracy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (iw4IE)
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I'm not sure they even bother to manufacture ballots. Detroit had more "votes" tallied than ballot. Georgia has "votes" for which no ballots can be found. As long as no one is permitted to question the number submitted, why go to the effort of producing the paper?
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That is what pre printed ballots are for. Basically, embrace that there is wholesale fraud done by decentralized networks so that it is difficult to nail down and it is done in urban areas where the prosecutors and judges/juries are not going to indict much less convict. Same issues happened for years in places like S. Dakota with manufactured cheating on reservations.
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That is what pre printed ballots are for. Basically, embrace that there is wholesale fraud done by decentralized networks so that it is difficult to nail down and it is done in urban areas where the prosecutors and judges/juries are not going to indict much less convict. Same issues happened for years in places like S. Dakota with manufactured cheating on reservations.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (X99mU)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (2tUFv)
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The federal judge presiding over Special Counsel Jack Smith’s case against former President Trump alleging interference in the 2020 presidential election set the trial date for March 4, 2024--right in the middle of the GOP presidential primary calendar.
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 11:55 AM (geLO
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Which is something that's always confused me about elections. Why are citizens of the Indian Nations who live on the reservations allowed to vote in federal elections in the United States? They are not in a state. They are in a sovereign (or at least semi-sovereign) political construct that is outside the rest of the government system. They have no electoral votes and they are not in a state.
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 11:55 AM (geLO
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Which is something that's always confused me about elections. Why are citizens of the Indian Nations who live on the reservations allowed to vote in federal elections in the United States? They are not in a state. They are in a sovereign (or at least semi-sovereign) political construct that is outside the rest of the government system. They have no electoral votes and they are not in a state.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
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217 I'm sure it works totally awesomely too! First, the odds that a scared-shitless college girl being chased by dangerous lunatics would have the presence of mind to stop and hit buttons as she runs away is very low. Second, even if she did this, the odds that fat, lazy, stupid "campus police" would arrive in time to do anything is approaching zero.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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The former isn't a real problem, I don't think. The buttons were big. No need to even slow down. Just smash it on your way by. The rest, though ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (t0OGg)
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You'd still need the presence of mind -- probably while drunk -- to hit the buttons as you run. I'd like to know the "success rate" of this system. I'll bet its pretty close to zero. I mention "drunk" because campus attackers usually prey on isolated, impaired people (usually girls). They never seem to attack the star linebacker on his way to practice . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:52 AM (iFTx/)
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The former isn't a real problem, I don't think. The buttons were big. No need to even slow down. Just smash it on your way by. The rest, though ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:53 AM (t0OGg)
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You'd still need the presence of mind -- probably while drunk -- to hit the buttons as you run. I'd like to know the "success rate" of this system. I'll bet its pretty close to zero. I mention "drunk" because campus attackers usually prey on isolated, impaired people (usually girls). They never seem to attack the star linebacker on his way to practice . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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221 Regarding urban elections, since 2016, I am of the opinion that actual voters in urban districts are about 20 percent of the ballots that are submitted. What the Dems do now is manufacture ballots to match what the registered voter list says.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
this is BS
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:33 AM (X99mU)
this is BS
Posted by: Brandon's Johnson at August 28, 2023 11:58 AM (us2H3)
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There won't be any possibility of meaningful reform until sovereign immunity is changed and people in government can be held accountable. After that, when people in government are actually held accountable, meaningful reform will begin to occur.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 28, 2023 11:58 AM (YRsIm)
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You'd still need the presence of mind -- probably while drunk -- to hit the buttons as you run. I'd like to know the "success rate" of this system. I'll bet its pretty close to zero. I mention "drunk" because campus attackers usually prey on isolated, impaired people (usually girls). They never seem to attack the star linebacker on his way to practice . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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Yeah. They do have to think to *use* the system. It struck me as theater, but I dunno. I don't have their internal stats.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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Yeah. They do have to think to *use* the system. It struck me as theater, but I dunno. I don't have their internal stats.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (t0OGg)
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We are more likely to see a genuine Revolution on the French model when the money runs out--not a civil war like the English or American Civil Wars.
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I think the homogenous areas secede from the failed Singapores and wait out until a winning tribe emerges from the diverse shitpot. One or two will find a way to tame these shitholes. We may need moar Roof Top Koreans.
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I think the homogenous areas secede from the failed Singapores and wait out until a winning tribe emerges from the diverse shitpot. One or two will find a way to tame these shitholes. We may need moar Roof Top Koreans.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (OTXUv)
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With the voter base this stupid, we're screwed at every turn.'
We're screwed until we realize that leftists have the same legitimacy as cancer and stop recognizing their elected leaders as having a legitimate mandate.
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With the voter base this stupid, we're screwed at every turn.'
We're screwed until we realize that leftists have the same legitimacy as cancer and stop recognizing their elected leaders as having a legitimate mandate.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (udBxu)
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219 Puddinhead, my ex wife's cousin had two trucks, one for MD and VA and another for DC. He was on the 10 most wanted for parking violations in DC. He took the wrong one to a job at Cafritz hospital, which he found out later was solemn DC ground, even the parking lot. The truck was whisked away to the secret location, costing him thousands to retrieve.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (0EOe9)
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As this thread ages out, I think our consensus answer to Buck's question, "Where is the Conservative Alternative to the Collapse of Municipal Government?" is Nowhere, and it's not coming.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (i9ffA)
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Which is something that's always confused me about elections. Why are citizens of the Indian Nations who live on the reservations allowed to vote in federal elections in the United States? They are not in a state. They are in a sovereign (or at least semi-sovereign) political construct that is outside the rest of the government system. They have no electoral votes and they are not in a state.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
It's a compromise. Think of it as dual citizenship. They're allowed to run their local affairs but they are still considered citizens of the USA. It's a little complicated and occasionally the SCOTUS has to get involved.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
It's a compromise. Think of it as dual citizenship. They're allowed to run their local affairs but they are still considered citizens of the USA. It's a little complicated and occasionally the SCOTUS has to get involved.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (xcxpd)
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229 All major cities, over 100,000, should be declared "No Vote" zones and the feral savages who live in them lose their vote for any and all elections.
To Protect Our Democracy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Essentially, they have become informal reservations where the laws of a state cease to function much.
To Protect Our Democracy.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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Essentially, they have become informal reservations where the laws of a state cease to function much.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (X99mU)
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The hold low level but essential elections with minimum advertising at times and places inconvenient. At the same time the communists are running intense samizdat, get out the vote.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (7cJE3)
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set the trial date for March 4, 2024--right in the middle of the GOP presidential primary calendar.
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 11:55 AM (geLO
Not exactly the middle. First state primaries are on March 5.
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 11:55 AM (geLO
Not exactly the middle. First state primaries are on March 5.
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 12:00 PM (dWjpk)
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I guess making hay while the sun shines turns out not to be bullshit
Posted by: REDACTED at August 28, 2023 12:00 PM (us2H3)
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Good article!
Especially prevalent during the 2nd O & Joe administration, new, well educated progressives moved into areas immediately outside of major cities, into the heart of small town and county strongholds - middle class, often unionized or owning small businesses - that had existed for decades.
They immediately cried nepotism & ran for every offices from town & county councils, school boards, county legislators (state house and senate), and up. They won, more often than not, claiming a new era of inclusiveness would take hold in the area, followed by diversity and equity. No more did E = educational and I = informative in schools. Poorer parents crossed over the closest boundary lines from cities from where they being nudged out & placed their children en mass into the nearest public schools. Others simply drove from neighboring states & dropped their children off at whatever public schools rode the state boundary lines. If challenged, they & the schools said there were split child custody agreements & the children resided within the area. Remote work, 'family' being redefined, also diminished residential control.
And the well-heeled progs moved away.
Especially prevalent during the 2nd O & Joe administration, new, well educated progressives moved into areas immediately outside of major cities, into the heart of small town and county strongholds - middle class, often unionized or owning small businesses - that had existed for decades.
They immediately cried nepotism & ran for every offices from town & county councils, school boards, county legislators (state house and senate), and up. They won, more often than not, claiming a new era of inclusiveness would take hold in the area, followed by diversity and equity. No more did E = educational and I = informative in schools. Poorer parents crossed over the closest boundary lines from cities from where they being nudged out & placed their children en mass into the nearest public schools. Others simply drove from neighboring states & dropped their children off at whatever public schools rode the state boundary lines. If challenged, they & the schools said there were split child custody agreements & the children resided within the area. Remote work, 'family' being redefined, also diminished residential control.
And the well-heeled progs moved away.
Posted by: L - Practice makes perfect. They know their enemy. at August 28, 2023 12:00 PM (GshMh)
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And Flint, and NYC, and Atlanta, and Birmingham, etc. City governments essentially become predatory in regards to tax farming their residents while providing little or no city services.
Not maintaining underground water systems is particularly common, since people can't see them.
At least with potholes you might occasionally get some maintenance.
Not maintaining underground water systems is particularly common, since people can't see them.
At least with potholes you might occasionally get some maintenance.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (2tUFv)
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I'm not sure they even bother to manufacture ballots. Detroit had more "votes" tallied than ballot. Georgia has "votes" for which no ballots can be found.
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100% understanding and respect of civic duty
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75%+ illiteracy
100% understanding and respect of civic duty
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (q8U4k)
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You'd still need the presence of mind -- probably while drunk -- to hit the buttons as you run. I'd like to know the "success rate" of this system. I'll bet its pretty close to zero. I mention "drunk" because campus attackers usually prey on isolated, impaired people (usually girls). They never seem to attack the star linebacker on his way to practice . . . .
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
The star linebacker is probably mugging someone for beer money, based on my college days.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
The star linebacker is probably mugging someone for beer money, based on my college days.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (xcxpd)
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Giuliani kept NYC as a sanctuary city and defended it against the federal government.
He supported gay rights and commended the legalization of same-sex marriage in NY though he played word games about personally opposing it.
He was an enthusiastic supporter of Planned Eugenics and opposed late-term abortion bans.
He was an early filer of lawsuits against lawful out of state firearms sellers and supported the "semi-automatic" weapons ban under Clinton.
He repeatedly fired highly successful police commissioners until he got one who would not compete with him politically. That one abused his authority and was eventually convicted of other crimes after being stopped short of becoming Director of Homeland Security at Giuliani's recommendation.
Bloomberg was Giuliani's chosen successor. He did nothing Giuliani did not do, he merely turned them all up to 11 and made people realize just how intolerable those policies were.
We already have too many Giulianis as mayors. That is why cities are in such bad shape. Anything they might about crime the crime rate, would be overshadowed by all the other destructive policies.
He supported gay rights and commended the legalization of same-sex marriage in NY though he played word games about personally opposing it.
He was an enthusiastic supporter of Planned Eugenics and opposed late-term abortion bans.
He was an early filer of lawsuits against lawful out of state firearms sellers and supported the "semi-automatic" weapons ban under Clinton.
He repeatedly fired highly successful police commissioners until he got one who would not compete with him politically. That one abused his authority and was eventually convicted of other crimes after being stopped short of becoming Director of Homeland Security at Giuliani's recommendation.
Bloomberg was Giuliani's chosen successor. He did nothing Giuliani did not do, he merely turned them all up to 11 and made people realize just how intolerable those policies were.
We already have too many Giulianis as mayors. That is why cities are in such bad shape. Anything they might about crime the crime rate, would be overshadowed by all the other destructive policies.
Posted by: Sam at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (ohyxL)
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178 They are steel pillars with a bright blue light and call button on them, that connect to campus PD.
The tour guide got very excited and said, "it's so that if you're being pursued, you can just hit the buttons as you run. The computer system at campus police HQ will then predict your available routes and automatically dispatch officers to intercept you!"
you know who else can see where you're going and route to intercept you?
The tour guide got very excited and said, "it's so that if you're being pursued, you can just hit the buttons as you run. The computer system at campus police HQ will then predict your available routes and automatically dispatch officers to intercept you!"
you know who else can see where you're going and route to intercept you?
Posted by: the baddies at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (v3pYe)
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It's a compromise. Think of it as dual citizenship. They're allowed to run their local affairs but they are still considered citizens of the USA. It's a little complicated and occasionally the SCOTUS has to get involved.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (xcxpd)
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Right, I get that. But in that respect, it's akin (sort of) to a territory. Territories don't have electoral votes or senators or representatives (not real ones, anyway). So where do the votes cast by citizens of Indian Nations who live on reservations *go?* I imagine, they go into the state counts, but that never made any sense to me. They're not part of the state.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (xcxpd)
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Right, I get that. But in that respect, it's akin (sort of) to a territory. Territories don't have electoral votes or senators or representatives (not real ones, anyway). So where do the votes cast by citizens of Indian Nations who live on reservations *go?* I imagine, they go into the state counts, but that never made any sense to me. They're not part of the state.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (t0OGg)
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you know who else can see where you're going and route to intercept you?
Posted by: the baddies at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (v3pYe)
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No, the lights are always on. They're beacons.
Posted by: the baddies at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (v3pYe)
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No, the lights are always on. They're beacons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 12:02 PM (t0OGg)
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228 I've slowly moved him over to the grifter column.
Jack Posobiec has mostly stopped pushing pillows, and now is pushing Donald Trump.
I suspect that there is money involved.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:56 AM (2tUFv)
Eh. Jack was a Trump supporter since 2016. That doesn't bother me.
Jack Posobiec has mostly stopped pushing pillows, and now is pushing Donald Trump.
I suspect that there is money involved.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 11:56 AM (2tUFv)
Eh. Jack was a Trump supporter since 2016. That doesn't bother me.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 12:02 PM (xcxpd)
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> I think our consensus answer to Buck's question, "Where is the Conservative Alternative to the Collapse of Municipal Government?" is Nowhere, and it's not coming.
Posted by: Tom Servo
messaging problem
Posted by: Tom Servo
messaging problem
Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 28, 2023 12:03 PM (geLO8)
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It's a compromise. Think of it as dual citizenship. They're allowed to run their local affairs but they are still considered citizens of the USA. It's a little complicated and occasionally the SCOTUS has to get involved.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Until the Calvin Coolidge administration, Native Americans on reservations were not treated as US Citizens but rather citizens of their sovereign tribes ruling the reservation. They could not vote in federal elections. This was changed by statute.
The whole dual citizen thing came about due to a US Citizen casting a vote in Israeli elections in the 1967 in Afroyim v. Rusk. As a long line of precedents, the US had never allowed people to vote in foreign elections as a US Citizen as it was treated as renouncing your citizenship.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Until the Calvin Coolidge administration, Native Americans on reservations were not treated as US Citizens but rather citizens of their sovereign tribes ruling the reservation. They could not vote in federal elections. This was changed by statute.
The whole dual citizen thing came about due to a US Citizen casting a vote in Israeli elections in the 1967 in Afroyim v. Rusk. As a long line of precedents, the US had never allowed people to vote in foreign elections as a US Citizen as it was treated as renouncing your citizenship.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 12:03 PM (X99mU)
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Regarding urban elections, since 2016, I am of the opinion that actual voters in urban districts are about 20 percent of the ballots that are submitted. What the Dems do now is manufacture ballots to match what the registered voter list says.
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Agreed, except I'd be shocked if it's over 10%
If some national organization was smart they'd set up someone with a video recorder outside of every polling place in these cities and show that they're abandoned all day, from opening until closing.
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Agreed, except I'd be shocked if it's over 10%
If some national organization was smart they'd set up someone with a video recorder outside of every polling place in these cities and show that they're abandoned all day, from opening until closing.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:03 PM (q8U4k)
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239 219 Puddinhead, my ex wife's cousin had two trucks, one for MD and VA and another for DC. He was on the 10 most wanted for parking violations in DC. He took the wrong one to a job at Cafritz hospital, which he found out later was solemn DC ground, even the parking lot. The truck was whisked away to the secret location, costing him thousands to retrieve.
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Yep. Do like the illegals do. Drive an unregistered dumper car. If DC grabs it, let them have. If you hit someone deny it was you and tell their lawyer you returning to Egypt or somewhere. DC won't do shit about it. If they boot it, same deal, abandon it. This is how things work there. Expecting European levels of civilization in DC is a fools error.
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Yep. Do like the illegals do. Drive an unregistered dumper car. If DC grabs it, let them have. If you hit someone deny it was you and tell their lawyer you returning to Egypt or somewhere. DC won't do shit about it. If they boot it, same deal, abandon it. This is how things work there. Expecting European levels of civilization in DC is a fools error.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 12:03 PM (OTXUv)
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Also, why do the inhabitants of reservation get to vote for state and federal legislative candidates if they aren't subject to their respective states?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (xTRSc)
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Which is something that's always confused me about elections. Why are citizens of the Indian Nations who live on the reservations allowed to vote in federal elections in the United States?
That was true until after World War I.
You were a citizen of the Sioux Nation, or an American citizen - you couldn't be both. (Some tribes were granted US citizenship as part of their agreements with the US government.)
But Indians fought so well in WWI, despite not being subject to the draft, that there was popular support for giving them citizenship.
That was true until after World War I.
You were a citizen of the Sioux Nation, or an American citizen - you couldn't be both. (Some tribes were granted US citizenship as part of their agreements with the US government.)
But Indians fought so well in WWI, despite not being subject to the draft, that there was popular support for giving them citizenship.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (2tUFv)
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The star linebacker is probably mugging someone for beer money, based on my college days.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (xcxpd)
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Gas money for their alumni-provided Porsche Turbo Carreras, based on my college days.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 12:01 PM (xcxpd)
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Gas money for their alumni-provided Porsche Turbo Carreras, based on my college days.
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (gfCv4)
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241 Which is something that's always confused me about elections. Why are citizens of the Indian Nations who live on the reservations allowed to vote in federal elections in the United States? They are not in a state. They are in a sovereign (or at least semi-sovereign) political construct that is outside the rest of the government system. They have no electoral votes and they are not in a state.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
It's a compromise. Think of it as dual citizenship. They're allowed to run their local affairs but they are still considered citizens of the USA. It's a little complicated and occasionally the SCOTUS has to get involved.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (xcxpd)
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Yes, a compromise. As a general matter, the states have almost no jurisdiction over their affairs. But the federal government continues to have quite a bit of power over them. The whole things has become corrupt as fuck, as shocking as that may seem. The tribal governments are in on the take and easily bribed to screw over their constituents.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 11:57 AM (t0OGg)
It's a compromise. Think of it as dual citizenship. They're allowed to run their local affairs but they are still considered citizens of the USA. It's a little complicated and occasionally the SCOTUS has to get involved.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 11:59 AM (xcxpd)
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Yes, a compromise. As a general matter, the states have almost no jurisdiction over their affairs. But the federal government continues to have quite a bit of power over them. The whole things has become corrupt as fuck, as shocking as that may seem. The tribal governments are in on the take and easily bribed to screw over their constituents.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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Speaking of Injuns, one obit that I read said that Bob Barker was a member of the Sioux tribe.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:05 PM (xTRSc)
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I brought traditional Democrat municipal management up to the Federal level.
You'd think you'd be thanking me! (Finish them, Joe!)
You'd think you'd be thanking me! (Finish them, Joe!)
Posted by: Barack Hussein at August 28, 2023 12:06 PM (bt2PN)
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California is an utter shithole, yet everyone thinks Newsom is awesome and doing a great job.
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My MIL's boyfriend is a hardcore leftwing lunatic. When Newsome was selected governor he said "I look forward to what he can do because I really like what he did in Scat Franshitsco." We ceased talking after that statement as I knew he belonged in the loony bin.
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My MIL's boyfriend is a hardcore leftwing lunatic. When Newsome was selected governor he said "I look forward to what he can do because I really like what he did in Scat Franshitsco." We ceased talking after that statement as I knew he belonged in the loony bin.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 28, 2023 12:07 PM (17s+e)
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Personally, I think the reservations should be abolished.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:07 PM (xTRSc)
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The whole things has become corrupt as fuck, as shocking as that may seem. The tribal governments are in on the take and easily bribed to screw over their constituents.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Heh, now do Congress and Joe Biden.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Heh, now do Congress and Joe Biden.
Posted by: whig at August 28, 2023 12:07 PM (X99mU)
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": Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 11:42 AM (DmtxH)
162 HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
These snowflakes are used to being treated very gently by cops in blue cities.
Tribal police on the rez are a whole different animal."
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Do they take scalps?
162 HAHAHAHAHA
Oh man, you've got to watch that if you haven't.
These snowflakes are used to being treated very gently by cops in blue cities.
Tribal police on the rez are a whole different animal."
*******
Do they take scalps?
Posted by: Cosda at August 28, 2023 12:09 PM (89I0K)
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Giuliani only got elected because his predecessor, Dinkins, was a total disaster. Unfortunately people voted based on tribalism and ideology, not anything as boring as administrative competence - get the garbage picked up and the snow removed.. But that's exactly what you need in a mayor. NYC got lucky with Giuliani. I had no idea he was very competent at running an organization. But he was. That was his major strength.
Posted by: Rick Happ at August 28, 2023 12:09 PM (PyHS8)
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Yes, a compromise. As a general matter, the states have almost no jurisdiction over their affairs. But the federal government continues to have quite a bit of power over them. The whole things has become corrupt as fuck, as shocking as that may seem. The tribal governments are in on the take and easily bribed to screw over their constituents.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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The Indian reservations can be as rich as they want to be. They are exempt from the body of federal regulatory structure and other law. No EPA. No DOE. None of it. They can build any factory, power plant, dam, etc. that they want to.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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The Indian reservations can be as rich as they want to be. They are exempt from the body of federal regulatory structure and other law. No EPA. No DOE. None of it. They can build any factory, power plant, dam, etc. that they want to.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (t0OGg)
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268 266 Personally, I think the reservations should be abolished.
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Why?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 12:09 PM (OTXUv)
Standard of living sucks on most of them and they stay connected to the Government teat for generations... Not a pleasant place
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Why?
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 28, 2023 12:09 PM (OTXUv)
Standard of living sucks on most of them and they stay connected to the Government teat for generations... Not a pleasant place
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (bs+z0)
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Archie Bunker told Meathead the Indian (feather not dot) vote did not matter as they ride their horses into town, sell the horses to get drunk, then they can't ride them to the polling stations to vote.
Makes sense to me.
Makes sense to me.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 28, 2023 12:11 PM (iw4IE)
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266 Personally, I think the reservations should be abolished.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:07 PM (xTRSc)
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Based on my experience with local Indians, they would agree with you. They see the reservations as a tool of power and oppression. The tribal government sucks up all the money for themselves, leaving their constituents poor and desperate.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:07 PM (xTRSc)
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Based on my experience with local Indians, they would agree with you. They see the reservations as a tool of power and oppression. The tribal government sucks up all the money for themselves, leaving their constituents poor and desperate.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
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268 Because they are sinkholes of poverty and corruption (for the most part). Alll Indians are now US citizens, so they can live in society (as awful as it is now) like everyone else.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:11 PM (xTRSc)
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Standard of living sucks on most of them and they stay connected to the Government teat for generations... Not a pleasant place
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (bs+z0)
iow, just like most large cities now.
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (bs+z0)
iow, just like most large cities now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:11 PM (i9ffA)
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I always bring this up when it comes to reservations. Having driven through a few, I am amazed at the squalor. Like I mentioned here, a few weeks ago, take a couple loads of trash to the dump. Take some of that rusty iron to the scrap yard. Take the money from the scrap yard to Lowes, buy paint and stuff and you would have a nice little house.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 12:12 PM (0EOe9)
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Spoiler alert: the avenue is closed.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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hahahaha
Like a bunch of Maui cops blockading the road while the fires rage behind the people.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:15 AM (q8U4k)
I'm reminded of the anecdote about an apartment fire in Saudi Arabia or Iran (can't remember which), where little girls were running out of the burning building in their nightclothes, but were being caught by the police and forced back in the building because they weren't dressed modestly according to mohammedan principles.
Spoiler alert: the avenue is closed.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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hahahaha
Like a bunch of Maui cops blockading the road while the fires rage behind the people.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 11:15 AM (q8U4k)
I'm reminded of the anecdote about an apartment fire in Saudi Arabia or Iran (can't remember which), where little girls were running out of the burning building in their nightclothes, but were being caught by the police and forced back in the building because they weren't dressed modestly according to mohammedan principles.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 28, 2023 12:13 PM (n+4am)
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Part of the problem is people don’t think about the boring stuff like garbage pickup. It’s just kind of there. It’s not a bling issue. Even though it makes a huge difference who is running the garbage department.
It’s not as sexy as issues like reparations and spending money on the homeless.
It’s not as sexy as issues like reparations and spending money on the homeless.
Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 12:13 PM (ZEbnh)
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I always bring this up when it comes to reservations. Having driven through a few, I am amazed at the squalor. Like I mentioned here, a few weeks ago, take a couple loads of trash to the dump. Take some of that rusty iron to the scrap yard. Take the money from the scrap yard to Lowes, buy paint and stuff and you would have a nice little house.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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You're not supposed to notice cultural problems.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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You're not supposed to notice cultural problems.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:13 PM (q8U4k)
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The tribal government sucks up all the money for themselves, leaving their constituents poor and desperate.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
Wait until they find out about the off-the-rez government.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
Wait until they find out about the off-the-rez government.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 28, 2023 12:14 PM (z99Zw)
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277 I always bring this up when it comes to reservations. Having driven through a few, I am amazed at the squalor. Like I mentioned here, a few weeks ago, take a couple loads of trash to the dump. Take some of that rusty iron to the scrap yard. Take the money from the scrap yard to Lowes, buy paint and stuff and you would have a nice little house.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 12:12 PM (0EOe9)
When you’re the 5th or 6th generation of welfare recipient (whether on a reservation or in the hood) you don’t think this way. It’s a foreign concept to take resources and turn them into money. It’s the way welfare destroys entire societies.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 12:12 PM (0EOe9)
When you’re the 5th or 6th generation of welfare recipient (whether on a reservation or in the hood) you don’t think this way. It’s a foreign concept to take resources and turn them into money. It’s the way welfare destroys entire societies.
Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 12:15 PM (ZEbnh)
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Don't pay attention, folks. Everything is fine. Just keep sending money so those brave Ukranians can beat those darn Russians!!!
"Utah Republican senator Mitt Romney’s foreign policy adviser Joseph Cofer Black served on the board of Burisma Holdings alongside Hunter Biden.
The Huffington Post reported in 2017:
“Former Director of CIA’s Counterterrorist Center joined Burisma’s board, and he will help to expand the company’s global presence."
https://tinyurl.com/ybsogcoj
"Utah Republican senator Mitt Romney’s foreign policy adviser Joseph Cofer Black served on the board of Burisma Holdings alongside Hunter Biden.
The Huffington Post reported in 2017:
“Former Director of CIA’s Counterterrorist Center joined Burisma’s board, and he will help to expand the company’s global presence."
https://tinyurl.com/ybsogcoj
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:15 PM (q8U4k)
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Standard of living sucks on most of them and they stay connected to the Government teat for generations... Not a pleasant place
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (bs+z0)
Tribal leaders are Democrat like in the way they take all the money from the casinos and their people still live in trailer houses and are poor drinking firewater and smoking peyote all day.
Standard of living sucks on most of them and they stay connected to the Government teat for generations... Not a pleasant place
Posted by: It's me donna at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (bs+z0)
Tribal leaders are Democrat like in the way they take all the money from the casinos and their people still live in trailer houses and are poor drinking firewater and smoking peyote all day.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 12:16 PM (7Q7Ca)
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Who builds the Ark this time - Elon ?
Posted by: Next2Nothing at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (tA1/w)
maybe that's why he's trying so hard to get to mars?
Posted by: Next2Nothing at August 28, 2023 11:31 AM (tA1/w)
maybe that's why he's trying so hard to get to mars?
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 12:16 PM (KZaqS)
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Reservations are shitholes of poverty, alcoholism and despair. One of the problems is there is basically no individual right to private property. Not much opportunity to pull yourself out of the muck. It's a disgrace.
Posted by: Trust the feds! at August 28, 2023 12:17 PM (fhX0j)
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Tribal areas are also a bastion of voter fraud. Jon Tester won his last election with a late night surge of votes from a reservation. Same shenanigans in Arizona.
And of course the GOP stays silent.
And of course the GOP stays silent.
Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (ZEbnh)
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280 I always bring this up when it comes to reservations. Having driven through a few, I am amazed at the squalor. Like I mentioned here, a few weeks ago, take a couple loads of trash to the dump. Take some of that rusty iron to the scrap yard. Take the money from the scrap yard to Lowes, buy paint and stuff and you would have a nice little house.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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You're not supposed to notice cultural problems.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:13 PM (q8U4k)
It's the same problem Ireland had under English rule; no one owns land in fee simple, they can own a right to use it but actual ownership is by (I believe) the US Government in trust for the tribe. So who is going to spend money fixing up houses they will never actually own? No one.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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You're not supposed to notice cultural problems.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:13 PM (q8U4k)
It's the same problem Ireland had under English rule; no one owns land in fee simple, they can own a right to use it but actual ownership is by (I believe) the US Government in trust for the tribe. So who is going to spend money fixing up houses they will never actually own? No one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (i9ffA)
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271 Yes, a compromise. As a general matter, the states have almost no jurisdiction over their affairs. But the federal government continues to have quite a bit of power over them. The whole things has become corrupt as fuck, as shocking as that may seem. The tribal governments are in on the take and easily bribed to screw over their constituents.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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The Indian reservations can be as rich as they want to be. They are exempt from the body of federal regulatory structure and other law. No EPA. No DOE. None of it. They can build any factory, power plant, dam, etc. that they want to.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (t0OGg)
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I don't think it's that simple. There is a version of the EPA, for example, that applies to Indian reservations. And they can't just dam up whatever they want if it affects water flow outside the reservation. I recall there were lawsuits over that. There's a reason many reservations turned to gambling to make $$: it's simple, easy, no environmental problems or extensive federal oversight, and -- wait for it -- it's easy to steal and launder money.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:04 PM (iFTx/)
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The Indian reservations can be as rich as they want to be. They are exempt from the body of federal regulatory structure and other law. No EPA. No DOE. None of it. They can build any factory, power plant, dam, etc. that they want to.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 28, 2023 12:10 PM (t0OGg)
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I don't think it's that simple. There is a version of the EPA, for example, that applies to Indian reservations. And they can't just dam up whatever they want if it affects water flow outside the reservation. I recall there were lawsuits over that. There's a reason many reservations turned to gambling to make $$: it's simple, easy, no environmental problems or extensive federal oversight, and -- wait for it -- it's easy to steal and launder money.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
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It's the same problem Ireland had under English rule; no one owns land in fee simple, they can own a right to use it but actual ownership is by (I believe) the US Government in trust for the tribe. So who is going to spend money fixing up houses they will never actually own? No one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (i9ffA)
AKA "The Tragedy of The Commons."
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (i9ffA)
AKA "The Tragedy of The Commons."
Posted by: ShainS -- Deplorable AND Listless Vessel AND Overimaginative Scamp at August 28, 2023 12:20 PM (gfCv4)
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So who is going to spend money fixing up houses they will never actually own? No one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (i9ffA)
I rented a house once and painted several rooms. Even if the benefit isn’t long term, at least make the place you live enjoyable while there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (i9ffA)
I rented a house once and painted several rooms. Even if the benefit isn’t long term, at least make the place you live enjoyable while there.
Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 12:20 PM (ZEbnh)
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291 Yes.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (0EOe9)
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291 You know who else painted rooms that he didn't own...?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (xTRSc)
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10 Here is something I wrote before, so rather than rewrite it as if it’s an original thought, I’m going to plagiarize myself, because I do want to keep making this point
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It's not plagiarism, it's "self-allusion" or "thematic construction!"
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We're Morons. We are accustomed to having things repeated to us several times. In fact, we get antsy if they aren't.
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It's not plagiarism, it's "self-allusion" or "thematic construction!"
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We're Morons. We are accustomed to having things repeated to us several times. In fact, we get antsy if they aren't.
Posted by: Impudent Warwick at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (f/6Wb)
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As the details about the disastrous Maui fire continue to unfold, many people are left wondering how the hell a foul-up this spectacular is possible. How did everything go so wrong at every level of the response?
More & more I see, the more it looks intentional. Sorry.
More & more I see, the more it looks intentional. Sorry.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (G8h7g)
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>A few days ago, I saw a mention claiming Tamerlane offed a good 60 million Indians. He was a very good Muslim. The Koran divides "infidels" into two groups: "people of the book", Jews and Christians, who are to be offered a chance to convert to Islam, and outright heathens who never had any connection to the Bible and who were to be killed without being offered a chance to convert.
The 3rd oldest religion has text about how to deal with other faiths. Christians had no such help and did not know until about 1100 AD.
The 3rd oldest religion has text about how to deal with other faiths. Christians had no such help and did not know until about 1100 AD.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 28, 2023 12:22 PM (44ww/)
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293 291 You know who else painted rooms that he didn't own...?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (xTRSc)
Banksy?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (xTRSc)
Banksy?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at August 28, 2023 12:22 PM (xcxpd)
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More & more I see, the more it looks intentional. Sorry.
someone posted a video with screencaps of the mayor stating that he was going to get the land in Lahaina in order to development
government seizure type thing
someone posted a video with screencaps of the mayor stating that he was going to get the land in Lahaina in order to development
government seizure type thing
Posted by: kallisto at August 28, 2023 12:22 PM (dCxaZ)
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Maui officials could say yeah we did it on purpose. Fuck off.
And still Democrats would sweep every election next year.
And still Democrats would sweep every election next year.
Posted by: Montec at August 28, 2023 12:23 PM (ZEbnh)
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maybe that's why he's trying so hard to get to mars?
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 12:16 PM (KZaqS)
He says so often.
Posted by: SturmToddler at August 28, 2023 12:16 PM (KZaqS)
He says so often.
Posted by: blaster at August 28, 2023 12:23 PM (dWjpk)
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Why not pro-all business, great or small? Contrary to belief, small business is not the font of virtue. I have been to plenty of both good and bad small businesses.
Size is not an indicator of virtue.
Size is not an indicator of virtue.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 28, 2023 12:23 PM (f2dD+)
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Having driven through a few, I am amazed at the squalor. Like I mentioned here, a few weeks ago, take a couple loads of trash to the dump. Take some of that rusty iron to the scrap yard. Take the money from the scrap yard to Lowes, buy paint and stuff and you would have a nice little house.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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You're not supposed to notice cultural problems.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:13 PM (q8U4k)
they can own a right to use it but actual ownership is by (I believe) the US Government in trust for the tribe. So who is going to spend money fixing up houses they will never actually own? No one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (i9ffA)
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Having a nice property in a poor area on a reservation also makes you a target for thieves. It's actually safer to just let the place deteriorate into a shithole. I stayed on an Indian reservation in Montana in June (AirBNB). Was a nice place amidst squalor. Owner was a true-blood Indian . . . and MAGA Republican, if you can believe it.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
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You're not supposed to notice cultural problems.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:13 PM (q8U4k)
they can own a right to use it but actual ownership is by (I believe) the US Government in trust for the tribe. So who is going to spend money fixing up houses they will never actually own? No one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 28, 2023 12:18 PM (i9ffA)
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Having a nice property in a poor area on a reservation also makes you a target for thieves. It's actually safer to just let the place deteriorate into a shithole. I stayed on an Indian reservation in Montana in June (AirBNB). Was a nice place amidst squalor. Owner was a true-blood Indian . . . and MAGA Republican, if you can believe it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 28, 2023 12:23 PM (iFTx/)
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296 Yeah, but Tamerlane did off plenty of Muzzies whom he considered "bad Muslims."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:24 PM (xTRSc)
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It wasn't government incompetence that resulted in the destruction on Maui. That was malice. Sometimes Occam's Razor is just a cover for actual, deliberate action.
It's going to get worse from here.
It's going to get worse from here.
Posted by: The Guy Who Always Says It's Gonna Get Worse at August 28, 2023 12:24 PM (PWI4f)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:25 PM (xTRSc)
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More & more I see, the more it looks intentional. Sorry.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (G8h7g)
Sorry, not sorry. That shit was intentional. Murder, plain and simple to me.
More & more I see, the more it looks intentional. Sorry.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (G8h7g)
Sorry, not sorry. That shit was intentional. Murder, plain and simple to me.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 12:25 PM (7Q7Ca)
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I love Rudy
Posted by: Gonzotx at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (fbSf1)
Posted by: The Guy Who Always Says It's Gonna Get Worse at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (PWI4f)
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Size is not an indicator of virtue.
Lizzo has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:25 PM (xTRSc)
*Stacy Abrams bellyflops into the ocean, causing a tsunami.
Lizzo has entered the chat.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:25 PM (xTRSc)
*Stacy Abrams bellyflops into the ocean, causing a tsunami.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (7Q7Ca)
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Urban electorates prefer progressive leaders. Only after decades of crime and squalor do those electorates question their preferences.
Posted by: mr tmz at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (rJ48h)
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280 I always bring this up when it comes to reservations. Having driven through a few, I am amazed at the squalor. Like I mentioned here, a few weeks ago, take a couple loads of trash to the dump. Take some of that rusty iron to the scrap yard. Take the money from the scrap yard to Lowes, buy paint and stuff and you would have a nice little house.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
The whole point and reason for "reservations" in the first instance is stupid. Are there really any "native americans" who live the way their tribe did before the white man came? No - they just live the way very poor white people live now, but get to pretend they are a "sovereign nation". It's too stupid for words. It was something that could never work and has never worked. Where are the reservations for the celts that were dislocated by the anglo-saxons, or the anglo-saxons that were dislocated by the gauls, etc., etc. throughout history. The native americans were not advanced, they lost not simply to white westerners, but to the very concept of evolution and progress. No matter what happened, their "way of life" was not going to survive. It's just sad those who stay on the res.
Posted by: bill in arkansas
The whole point and reason for "reservations" in the first instance is stupid. Are there really any "native americans" who live the way their tribe did before the white man came? No - they just live the way very poor white people live now, but get to pretend they are a "sovereign nation". It's too stupid for words. It was something that could never work and has never worked. Where are the reservations for the celts that were dislocated by the anglo-saxons, or the anglo-saxons that were dislocated by the gauls, etc., etc. throughout history. The native americans were not advanced, they lost not simply to white westerners, but to the very concept of evolution and progress. No matter what happened, their "way of life" was not going to survive. It's just sad those who stay on the res.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (ky+MF)
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*Stacy Abrams bellyflops into the ocean, causing a tsunami.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (7Q7Ca)
*Sirens fail to sound*
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (7Q7Ca)
*Sirens fail to sound*
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 28, 2023 12:27 PM (CIS44)
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We need to be comparing the book Moonraker against everything Elon does, just on the off-chance.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 28, 2023 12:27 PM (44ww/)
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Stacy Abrams bellyflops into the ocean, causing a tsunami.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (7Q7Ca)
*Sirens fail to sound*
Posted by: BruceWayne
Don't want anyone running towards the flames.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 28, 2023 12:26 PM (7Q7Ca)
*Sirens fail to sound*
Posted by: BruceWayne
Don't want anyone running towards the flames.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:28 PM (G8h7g)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 28, 2023 12:29 PM (S5P0o)
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More & more I see, the more it looks intentional. Sorry.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (G8h7g)
The same thought hit me yesterday. I tried to discard it. I failed.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:21 PM (G8h7g)
The same thought hit me yesterday. I tried to discard it. I failed.
Posted by: creeper at August 28, 2023 12:29 PM (cTCuP)
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 12:29 PM (idBr5)
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Nice rant Buck.
Cities which decide to push WEF goals should all be pointed out as well, for instance the WEF group "C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group" has decided 'banning Meat, Dairy, And Private Vehicles By 2030' is a *good thing* by 2030.
The following US cities have agreed:
"American members include Austin, Boston, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, New York City, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Francisco, Washington, D.C., and Seattle." https://is.gd/qaJlv4
There is a street in Santa Barbara named Salsipuedes, it means "get out if you can".
I suggest everyone take note of the above cities goals/targets and salsipuedes.
Cities which decide to push WEF goals should all be pointed out as well, for instance the WEF group "C40 Cities Climate Leadership Group" has decided 'banning Meat, Dairy, And Private Vehicles By 2030' is a *good thing* by 2030.
The following US cities have agreed:
"American members include Austin, Boston, Chicago, Houston, Los Angeles, Miami, New Orleans, New York City, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Portland, San Francisco, Washington, D.C., and Seattle." https://is.gd/qaJlv4
There is a street in Santa Barbara named Salsipuedes, it means "get out if you can".
I suggest everyone take note of the above cities goals/targets and salsipuedes.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 28, 2023 12:29 PM (nw1rV)
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:29 PM (G8h7g)
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Reading about the influx of Cubans into Louisville, there's this gem from a commenter; "While a applaud Cubans moving into our neighborhoods I'm concerned that many seem to be turning hard right."
Cubans. Who've lived under socialism all their lives. Turning "hard right."
The urban leftists have no clue.
Cubans. Who've lived under socialism all their lives. Turning "hard right."
The urban leftists have no clue.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 28, 2023 12:29 PM (Q4IgG)
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63 38 Successful rebellions almost always start from the countryside and take over the cities last (if they start in the cities and succeed, it's because the countryside also backs the rebellion).
2 huge exceptions: The French Revolution, dominated by Paris, and their forces then slaughtered those areas in the countryside that didn't want to go along. The Russian Revolution was similar; it was centered in St. Petersburg and Moscow, and they also slaughtered those in the countryside once they cemented control.
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American Revolution was the same way, originating in the coastal cities among the affected merchants and their economic dependents. It was then spread to the rural areas as the urban radicals decided that they required the yeomen's support to achieve their goals. See Bunker Hill by Nathaniel Philbrick, which details the process by which the radical Sons of Liberty of Boston reached out to their satellite farming villages, and then the rest of the colony, persuading the farmers their cause was just, and that as Boston went, so would they all.
2 huge exceptions: The French Revolution, dominated by Paris, and their forces then slaughtered those areas in the countryside that didn't want to go along. The Russian Revolution was similar; it was centered in St. Petersburg and Moscow, and they also slaughtered those in the countryside once they cemented control.
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American Revolution was the same way, originating in the coastal cities among the affected merchants and their economic dependents. It was then spread to the rural areas as the urban radicals decided that they required the yeomen's support to achieve their goals. See Bunker Hill by Nathaniel Philbrick, which details the process by which the radical Sons of Liberty of Boston reached out to their satellite farming villages, and then the rest of the colony, persuading the farmers their cause was just, and that as Boston went, so would they all.
Posted by: exdem13 at August 28, 2023 12:30 PM (W+kMI)
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Willowed:
446 377 367 Shusaku Endo had one of the most interesting internal perspectives Japan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:36 AM (LvTSG
I've been meaning to buy something by him. Not Silence though, not for the first one. Any recommendations?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 28, 2023 10:50 AM (0FoWg)
====== I'm reading The Samurai now, and it's very good.
I've only ever read Silence and The Samurai, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:51 AM (LvTSG) Love Shusaku Endo. A great writer.
One of my favorite novels, not just my favorite Shusaku Endo novel, is "Scandal", which concerns a famous writer having doppelgänger issues.
It is a comedy(!). Though being a Japanese comedy, it is more amusing than hilarious.
Endo's reputation as a serious writer gets in the way of some reviewers seeing "Scandal" as a comedy. The novel is a morally serious novel even though it is clearly a comedy.
Anywho, enough of that. "Scandal" is an excellent read.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 28, 2023 11:04
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Have you seen the netflix documentary on Nissan
446 377 367 Shusaku Endo had one of the most interesting internal perspectives Japan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:36 AM (LvTSG
I've been meaning to buy something by him. Not Silence though, not for the first one. Any recommendations?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 28, 2023 10:50 AM (0FoWg)
====== I'm reading The Samurai now, and it's very good.
I've only ever read Silence and The Samurai, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for more with John Huston at August 28, 2023 10:51 AM (LvTSG) Love Shusaku Endo. A great writer.
One of my favorite novels, not just my favorite Shusaku Endo novel, is "Scandal", which concerns a famous writer having doppelgänger issues.
It is a comedy(!). Though being a Japanese comedy, it is more amusing than hilarious.
Endo's reputation as a serious writer gets in the way of some reviewers seeing "Scandal" as a comedy. The novel is a morally serious novel even though it is clearly a comedy.
Anywho, enough of that. "Scandal" is an excellent read.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 28, 2023 11:04
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Have you seen the netflix documentary on Nissan
Posted by: Gonzotx at August 28, 2023 12:30 PM (fbSf1)
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Saw a utube about some Philly cop that blew away a 27yo in his car.
Said he got out of the car and "lunged at him with a knife". Security video shows he never left the car. The cops just walked up and blew him away.
Oh, it was the UK press that broke the story.
Also, the cop is going to be fired??!?!!.
What about charging him with outright murder?
Is this a major story anywhere?
Said he got out of the car and "lunged at him with a knife". Security video shows he never left the car. The cops just walked up and blew him away.
Oh, it was the UK press that broke the story.
Also, the cop is going to be fired??!?!!.
What about charging him with outright murder?
Is this a major story anywhere?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 28, 2023 12:30 PM (ufFY8)
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Urban electorates prefer progressive leaders. Only after decades of crime and squalor do those electorates question their preferences.
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They NEVER do that. It's just that they run out of other people's money and flee, and then new people show up.
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They NEVER do that. It's just that they run out of other people's money and flee, and then new people show up.
Posted by: runner at August 28, 2023 12:30 PM (idBr5)
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Stacy Abrams belly flops into the ocean, causing Chris Christie to run in and save her. Tsunami destroys Newark.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 28, 2023 12:31 PM (0EOe9)
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Stacy Abrams belly flops into the ocean, causing Chris Christie to run in and save her. Tsunami destroys Newark.
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America rejoices.
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America rejoices.
Posted by: BruceWayne at August 28, 2023 12:31 PM (CIS44)
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Anyone get a call to bail out Ace?
Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2023 12:32 PM (UMLIN)
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Two 13yr olds shot and Killed one and injured another at Easton Mall which is the death nail for the place, and it was a place that you couldn't visit at night which is a shame they have some really good restaurants.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 28, 2023 12:32 PM (dKiJG)
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someone posted a video with screencaps of the mayor stating that he was going to get the land in Lahaina in order to development
government seizure type thing
Posted by: kallisto
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Only a couple of days after the fires had started, too.
They hadn't even really started discussing the dead and missing, and the government was already talking about taking the land.
government seizure type thing
Posted by: kallisto
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Only a couple of days after the fires had started, too.
They hadn't even really started discussing the dead and missing, and the government was already talking about taking the land.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Some comments were lost, so if you said something interesting, repeat it here. at August 28, 2023 12:32 PM (q8U4k)
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324 Urban electorates prefer progressive leaders. Only after decades of crime and squalor do those electorates question their preferences.
They may elect a "republican" candidate at some point - Usually northeastern type republican who would be a democrat in any other state - but after a few terms where the guy does some good (a la Guiliani), they revert back to the norm and elected hard lefties b/c they never understand cause and effect.
They may elect a "republican" candidate at some point - Usually northeastern type republican who would be a democrat in any other state - but after a few terms where the guy does some good (a la Guiliani), they revert back to the norm and elected hard lefties b/c they never understand cause and effect.
Posted by: I forgot my name b/c I haven't posted in 6 months at August 28, 2023 12:32 PM (ky+MF)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 28, 2023 12:33 PM (ufFY8)
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NOOD!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 28, 2023 12:34 PM (xTRSc)
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Ace up. Nood.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 28, 2023 12:34 PM (G8h7g)
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Where is the Conservative Alternative to the Collapse of Municipal Government?
At home saying it's useless to campaign, to go to council meetings, to make your voice heard, useless to round up a car full of neighbors to go and vote.
All the while the vile commies are doing tha and more. Every effort to win.
At home saying it's useless to campaign, to go to council meetings, to make your voice heard, useless to round up a car full of neighbors to go and vote.
All the while the vile commies are doing tha and more. Every effort to win.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 28, 2023 12:34 PM (7cJE3)
Posted by: Paolo at August 28, 2023 12:35 PM (b+gh8)
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Good points made by Ace and Mannix. People on both sides forget that politics at the local level is retail, like it or not. Where I'm from (Greater Cleveland) there was a famous mayor from the turn of the 20th Century, Tom Johnson. He was a Progressive, but he also had a reputation as a good-government type, and apparently delivered.
Similarly, former Northeast Ohio congresscritter Dennis Kucinich has a deserved reputation as a space cadet, dating back to his own term as mayor of Cleveland. He was so busy trying to save the world that he nearly bankrupted the city and narrowly avoided recall. When he got to Congress he was still trying to save the world, but his office did constituent service like nobody's business. Get the basics right, and -- for better or worse -- people will overlook a lot.
Similarly, former Northeast Ohio congresscritter Dennis Kucinich has a deserved reputation as a space cadet, dating back to his own term as mayor of Cleveland. He was so busy trying to save the world that he nearly bankrupted the city and narrowly avoided recall. When he got to Congress he was still trying to save the world, but his office did constituent service like nobody's business. Get the basics right, and -- for better or worse -- people will overlook a lot.
Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Ray Epps is a Fed and Ashli Bennett is Crispus Attucks at August 28, 2023 12:37 PM (ws0IQ)
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This is a great post, but the two main bloggers probably have not read this. Ace spends most of his time lamenting Ron DeSantis's eventual loss in the primary and Sefton daily rants about how America is lost, it's hopeless, etc.
There is a place for that, but we probably need more optimism and less "it's all over" talk. It's always darkest before the dawn.
There is a place for that, but we probably need more optimism and less "it's all over" talk. It's always darkest before the dawn.
Posted by: Lex at August 28, 2023 01:06 PM (fMN7A)
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The "Dystopiolis" has a useful place in politics... We can point at them and say: running a city, while comes, is relatively simple when compared to the National behemoth." We can point at the dumpster fire that Gavin Newsome made of SF and make the argument that his current "State of Disaster" was an easily forecast result. Same goes for our current President. There's a reason he never ran for a governorship... His peers knew that he can't even balance a checkbook and that being "Tommy Finnegan's" long lost cousin he is an inveterate and compulsive liar. The fact is that all Democrats are LSOS (lying sacs of dung)... None of them can point at a local innitiative not offset by federal monies or deductions that has improved life for the cities and States they have been running into the ground for decades. Chicago is an unmitigated disaster. NYC, we're it not for Wall Street, would be a bigger Cleveland. There is no progressive city that has improved its quality of life under The rule of the Red Rose. The Red Rose being a symbol of socialism. Look at Portland???
Show me one liberal city with an improvement in quality of life? They have to make up things like equity...
Show me one liberal city with an improvement in quality of life? They have to make up things like equity...
Posted by: Augusto Perez at August 28, 2023 01:07 PM (kj3zu)
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No there's an abundantly obvious reasons why conservatives aren't even pretending to make the case for the cities; the cities don't want to listen or care.
When LA, Chicago and Portland can run DEMOCRATS who are just not as radical as the morons who took power, when NYC can elect a supposed moderate who then becomes a wanna be Bernie Sanders within 10 seconds of being elected, when SF, Boston, Austin, etc don't even pretend to think anything is wrong in their voting patterns - WHY BOTHER?
Maybe there's a few slightly saner cities like San Diego, Atlanta, Miami, etc. but its not like they aren't run lock stock and barrel by the left. And as the locusts run to places like Dallas/Boise/Houston/etc they're just happily repeating all the same garbage they previously did.
Honestly many of these areas with a minimal amount of sanity should demand 'refugees from any major city' be banned from voting unless they were a registered republican for a minimum of 5 years.
When LA, Chicago and Portland can run DEMOCRATS who are just not as radical as the morons who took power, when NYC can elect a supposed moderate who then becomes a wanna be Bernie Sanders within 10 seconds of being elected, when SF, Boston, Austin, etc don't even pretend to think anything is wrong in their voting patterns - WHY BOTHER?
Maybe there's a few slightly saner cities like San Diego, Atlanta, Miami, etc. but its not like they aren't run lock stock and barrel by the left. And as the locusts run to places like Dallas/Boise/Houston/etc they're just happily repeating all the same garbage they previously did.
Honestly many of these areas with a minimal amount of sanity should demand 'refugees from any major city' be banned from voting unless they were a registered republican for a minimum of 5 years.
Posted by: Defector at August 28, 2023 01:23 PM (A6TEe)
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"We conservatives have abandoned the cities (and that includes me) and we mock city-dwellers for not voting Republican, yet we are not making a pitch for what we can do to make cities liveable again. "
This is the core of VDH's problem, as much as I like the guy: it is 2023. It is not 1970. Things are WAY worse and farther along than many people understand.
Serious conservatives have their hands full making sure their descendants don't end up in a pile of skulls. Nobody is "making the cities livable" with civics class nonsense; the progs have succeeded in destroying the republic, the Constitution had a good run - the best attempt of its kind, for sure - but is deeply flawed and now a dead letter, we're overrun with 50+ million foreign invaders, and now we're going to figure out just how hard things crash and burn.
This is the core of VDH's problem, as much as I like the guy: it is 2023. It is not 1970. Things are WAY worse and farther along than many people understand.
Serious conservatives have their hands full making sure their descendants don't end up in a pile of skulls. Nobody is "making the cities livable" with civics class nonsense; the progs have succeeded in destroying the republic, the Constitution had a good run - the best attempt of its kind, for sure - but is deeply flawed and now a dead letter, we're overrun with 50+ million foreign invaders, and now we're going to figure out just how hard things crash and burn.
Posted by: somedood at August 28, 2023 01:31 PM (N9SfE)
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"What they did want was civil order and effective government."
That's what everyone wants, and they're not too particular about the cost. But it has to *work*.
DeSantis has shown his bonafides multiple times, and has another opportunity with this hurricane and shooting.
That's what everyone wants, and they're not too particular about the cost. But it has to *work*.
DeSantis has shown his bonafides multiple times, and has another opportunity with this hurricane and shooting.
Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 28, 2023 01:55 PM (4KuuC)
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Posted by: www.Payathome7.com at August 28, 2023 02:03 PM (Sa6Mz)
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Yes, Rudy did deliver! Across the river in Jersey we loved reading and hearing about his determination and ability to kick some ass.
Posted by: Sidney at August 28, 2023 02:13 PM (vCZO5)
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I don't know, it's kinda hard to call for more Rudy Giulianis when, after Rudy not only told NYC what he could do to fix its problems, but then went on to prove that they worked, NYC turned its back and Republicans and the things they do that work, and instead re-elected Democrat destroyers as their municipal leaders. It's enough to make a saint lose faith, and Republican politicians are far from saints.
Posted by: Socratease at August 28, 2023 04:15 PM (d2/cS)
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"79 Houston has a huge homeless problem.
Hundreds of millions of dollars from income earners have fled in the last few years.
The streets are undrivable, complete disrepair.
Crime is at an all-time high.
And Shelia Jackson Lee is likely to be the next mayor.
Fresh off of decades representing and presiding over some of the worst neighborhoods.
But "Republicans offer better governance" will resonate this time ...."
Just moved to the Houston area. Houston has the "jungle primary": everyone who wants to run runs, and if no one gets a majority, the top two runoff. At the moment, the leader according to the polls is John Whitmire, who is a classic good ol' boy Texas politician and one of the last of the yellow dog Dems. He actually has a small lead over SJ-L even in the first round, and if it's him vs. her in the runoff, it's predicted to be a landslide, because all the Republicans in town will vote for him. 44% of those polled would never vote for SJ-L vs. only 13% for Whitmire. Also, another poll said the biggest concerns of the electorate by far were crime and schools.
Hundreds of millions of dollars from income earners have fled in the last few years.
The streets are undrivable, complete disrepair.
Crime is at an all-time high.
And Shelia Jackson Lee is likely to be the next mayor.
Fresh off of decades representing and presiding over some of the worst neighborhoods.
But "Republicans offer better governance" will resonate this time ...."
Just moved to the Houston area. Houston has the "jungle primary": everyone who wants to run runs, and if no one gets a majority, the top two runoff. At the moment, the leader according to the polls is John Whitmire, who is a classic good ol' boy Texas politician and one of the last of the yellow dog Dems. He actually has a small lead over SJ-L even in the first round, and if it's him vs. her in the runoff, it's predicted to be a landslide, because all the Republicans in town will vote for him. 44% of those polled would never vote for SJ-L vs. only 13% for Whitmire. Also, another poll said the biggest concerns of the electorate by far were crime and schools.
Posted by: Joe Smith at August 28, 2023 11:21 PM (QINni)
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The problem with the original post is that it requires at least one of two things to happen: 1.) Republicans to move back to the cities; 2.) Democrats to wise up on their own. Neither of these things is going to happen in blue states. I suppose red states can dictate how their blue cities will run to a great extent, which might improve things, and if nothing else could drive blue voters out of the state. The blue cities in blue states aren't going to get better until they collapse, and the red people swoop in, fix things by decree, and have the cities under stewardship, with no right to vote, for a very long period of time.
Posted by: Joe Smith at August 28, 2023 11:26 PM (QINni)
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"201 Temple is not as bad as LaSalle mainly because TU is able to buy up large swathes of North Philly (which is bad, but honestly not as bad as Logan where LaSalle is) and gentrify it."
I went to one of Temple's local basketball rivals, and when I first went there for a game in the late '80's, I got off the subway, went straight into the gym, watched the game, went straight back to the subway and to my campus. I wouldn't have thought of trying to do anything on campus after dark. The last couple of times I went there, which were in the two or three years before Floyd, I spent a couple of hours there before the game, had nice dinners at new restaurants, went around the brightly lit streets without fear--it was like a totally different place. I'm sure that all went to hell after the riots, not that I went back to test it in person, and of course now I've moved to Texas. La Salle did get quite scary there at the end.
I went to one of Temple's local basketball rivals, and when I first went there for a game in the late '80's, I got off the subway, went straight into the gym, watched the game, went straight back to the subway and to my campus. I wouldn't have thought of trying to do anything on campus after dark. The last couple of times I went there, which were in the two or three years before Floyd, I spent a couple of hours there before the game, had nice dinners at new restaurants, went around the brightly lit streets without fear--it was like a totally different place. I'm sure that all went to hell after the riots, not that I went back to test it in person, and of course now I've moved to Texas. La Salle did get quite scary there at the end.
Posted by: Joe Smith at August 28, 2023 11:30 PM (QINni)
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The Indians need to choose one way or the other: either you really do become your own nation, with passports, border controls, embassies, tariffs, and everything else that goes along with it, AND we don't pay for their stuff anymore, or you become regular old citizens. If you want to still have a commune on your tribal lands, fine, but you follow the same laws as everyone else, and the same police enforce them as everywhere else.
Posted by: Joe Smith at August 28, 2023 11:32 PM (QINni)
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"212 It would be hilarious if the snowflakes had to face a tribal court, but I don't know if that is the case.
There have been a couple of cases in Oregon where tribal casinos have invalidated slot machine jackpots on the grounds that the machine was "malfunctioning".
Don't like it? Go to tribal court and state your case.
Giggle."
Of course, that behavior self-corrects after the first couple of times; if you keep doing it, word gets around that you're a scam and people stop coming.
There have been a couple of cases in Oregon where tribal casinos have invalidated slot machine jackpots on the grounds that the machine was "malfunctioning".
Don't like it? Go to tribal court and state your case.
Giggle."
Of course, that behavior self-corrects after the first couple of times; if you keep doing it, word gets around that you're a scam and people stop coming.
Posted by: Joe Smith at August 28, 2023 11:39 PM (QINni)
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