How to be divinely secular (or at least support secular divinity)

Martha P. Johnson, Martyr
Church of the Left

Several people have been warning us for some time now that the "successor ideology", or "critical social justice" or "wokeness" or whatever you want to call it is actually a new religion. Much of the nuttiness we see in our society at this time is attributed to the religious nature of this movement.

James Lindsay has been calling adherents "gnostics". Lindsay has also been warning about the Marxist nature of current pedagogy in our K-12 schools and universities, and warning that conservatives must go beyond being conservative and become anti-communist. (Of course, Marxism itself has its own parallels to Christianity). This has alienated many of his former conservative allies, who thought he was a religious conservative, or could be persuaded to become a religious conservative. He is a classical liberal atheist. But I think he has a lot of good advice for conservatives.

John McWhorter, "a black liberal of about 1960" has written a whole book about a new religion of anti-racism that hurts black people in the name of helping them. He is resigned to the idea that adherents to this religion cannot be reached through reason (at least most of them), so efforts to keep them from having power over people should be taken. His book includes some negative descriptions of established religions, which has alienated many religious people. Though the book is over target about the "woke" movement.

In February, Michael Shellenberger and Leighton Woodhouse wrote a Public Substack piece entitled: Normies Of The World, Unite! Toward a liberal-conservative alliance against Wokeism:

That which is falling must still be pushed
-- Friedrich Nietzsche

People who worked in hospital clinics in the United States and Great Britain are blowing the whistle on the rush to prescribe puberty-blocking drugs and surgeries to children suffering from gender dysphoria. . .
Concerns over rushing girls into taking puberty blockers and surgically removing their breasts have been growing since the 2020 publication of Abigail Shrier's Irreversible Damage. Shrier argued that girls who in the past might have had anorexia were now suffering sudden onset gender dysphoria and seeking to become boys.
Now, three years later, the evidence is overwhelming that Shrier was right. . .
As such, alongside U.S. hospitals sterilizing the mentally ill in the early twentieth century, the sterilization of children with psychiatric conditions may go down as one of the worst abuses of medical power in modern history.

In the U.S. and UK, well-funded and politically powerful groups of activists demonized those who questioned the underlying science of their claims or expressed doubt that drugs and surgeries were the best things for girls. The top trans attorney at the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) falsely claimed on Twitter that Shrier was "closely aligned with white supremacists in power" and encouraged banning her book.
Trans activists got Amazon to claim, falsely, that the book "infers or claims to diagnose, treat, or question sexual orientation" and suspended advertisements for it one week before publication. In 2021 they forced the non-profit trade association for independent booksellers to issue an apology for daring to mention the book in a monthly mailing. "Stopping the circulation of [Shrier's] book and these ideas is 100% a hill I will die on," wrote the ACLU attorney.
Behind this zealotry is a dogmatic faith. "Gender ideology is very much like a religion," Shrier told us a few weeks ago. "And gender identity is the secular version of a soul. You're a woman down to every cell of your body. But still, they insist that there is this ethereal thing, your 'true gender identity,' which really is the secular version of this soul."

In a podcast with Joe Rogan, Shellenberger said that it was a year after he had asked Abigail Shrier about a possible religious significance of trans in the current hysteria before she got back to him with an answer. How gender ideology compared to religion wasn't as obvious as with, say, climate change. Back to the Public piece:

The separate Woke dogmas have come together to offer the unity provided by traditional religions. Where climate change offers the apocalypse and Black Lives Matter offers absolution from the Original Sin of white supremacy, "being trans" gives one a soul. The three issues form the trinity of Wokeism. As a single religion, Wokeism manipulates powerful emotions, including fear, guilt, and anger.
The emotions are put to work in bullying individuals and institutions to cave in to irrational demands. A black professor in Compact magazine last week recounted how a Woke black student last summer turned the entire seminar against him by accusing him, the author of a book called Black Dignity: The Struggle Against Domination, of racism.
As such, we have seen the profoundly illiberal Woke movement rise out of liberalism itself and become its opposite. . .

How, in the end, did things get so bad? A big part of the reason is that Wokeism is a dogmatic, powerful, and bullying religion. But another part of the reason is that the Woke are united and the anti-Woke divided.
Normies Fight Back

Suggestions follow.

James Lindsay would also argue that the normies don't have a plan to fight back effectively against the neo-communists, who present as hysterical women, generally making the other side seem cruel or stupid. And they always escalate. Think Tennessee.

One rare exception is the Bud Light partnership with Dylan Mulvaney, where some real damage seems to have been done. (h/t Anonosaurus Wrecks)

People seem to have mostly followed Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, including #13:

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

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Abigail Shrier takes aim again

Would Dylan Mulvaney ever use these shoes as part of one of his cosplays? He's been pretending to be a young girl from time to time recently.

Abigail Shrier, back in January, took aim:

If you wanted to protect traffickers and predators, you'd pass a bunch of legislation that looks exactly like California's.

She wrote up her investigation into the consequences of these new "LGBTQ-rights" laws in a Substack piece. She warns us upfront that it is a long read. Maybe you can save it for when you have some time. She does great work. Some of the details in this piece are insane. On the grounds of making California more welcoming to LGBTQ youth, State Senator Scott Wiener is transforming the state into a haven for human trafficking.

Like I said, she is taking specific aim.

On a Saturday night in South Los Angeles, cars pull up and idle along the side streets of Figueroa, high beams ablaze, so that the drivers can get a good look at "the girls." The women stand three astride in the middle of the street, in pasties and G-string bikinis under fishnet dresses. Draped over their shoulders are unzipped coats; even in temperate L.A., the night's January chill is biting. In seven-inch Lucite heels, they teeter toward the driver of each car the way you might walk barefoot across gravel. Less than a block away, their pimps keep company on a sidewalk corner, in hoodies and loose jeans, watching their quarry, awaiting the payout. Absent is the one thing that might typically break up the party: a police car.
In early January, I joined Erin Wilson and Stephany Powell on a tour of "the track" on Figueroa, one of California's busiest prostitution areas. For decades, Wilson, who volunteers for the anti-trafficking organization Journey Out, and her mother, Powell, have worked to combat human trafficking in Los Angeles and to help women and child victims escape this brutal world.
In our postfeminist era, prostitution is so often idealized--"sex work is work"--that it's easy to overlook the gruesome reality of what it means to have a pimp, an arrangement closer to slavery than to any legitimate job. . .

While the last few decades have seen an increase in human trafficking, women at all three of the anti-trafficking groups I spoke with across California agreed: nothing compares with the stunning rise in trafficking they've witnessed in recent months. . .
What shifted? The answer, the anti-trafficking advocates told me, is Senate Bill 357. Signed by Governor Gavin Newsom in July, the measure decriminalized loitering with the intent to engage in prostitution. The bill did not officially take effect until January 1 of this year; but, from the moment it became law back in July, these women say, the on-the-ground reality changed. "The minute the governor signed it, you started seeing an uptick on the streets," Powell said. "And on social media, the pimps were saying: 'You better get out there and work because the streets are ours.'"
The pimps were right: police stopped making arrests for crimes that would no longer be charged. The anti-loitering statute had provided the grounds for officers to question women and children whom they suspected might be trapped in a prostitution ring. . .
Sergeant Marcos Campos of the Oakland Police Department told me that his force rescued 24 underage girls from the streets in 2021. But in 2022, that number dropped to 14 -- most from before the law was signed.

Why would anyone propose such a law? Why would the California State Legislature pass it? I asked the bill's author, San Francisco-based state senator Scott Wiener. The answer he gave is the one that he supplies for so many of the bills he authors: it was necessary to advance the rights of LGBTQ people. "If you are standing on the sidewalk with high heels, and you wear your hair a certain way, and you wear tight clothing, an officer can say, 'I think you're loitering with the intent to commit prostitution' and arrest you," Wiener said. "That is not how we should be doing things in the United States of America -- arresting people for how they look," he continued. "And when you do that, not surprisingly, it's only certain kinds of people who actually get arrested: it's trans women. It's black women. . . . It's an inherently profiling law," he said. "Randomly arresting a bunch of black trans women for how they look is not protecting potential victims of human trafficking."

Hmmmm. I thought that the planned "Day (or days) of Transgender Vengeance" - the end of the week after the school shooting by a transgender - was supposed to have been inspired partly by the murders of black trans sex workers! Not by arrests for loitering. Returning to Shrier's piece:

But were the police indeed "randomly arresting a bunch of black trans women"? The anti-trafficking advocates I spoke with dispute this. For starters, Wilson, Powell, and Russell (all of whom are African-American) say that biological women and girls -- not transgender individuals--constitute the vast majority of those trafficked. Nearly every report on human trafficking by global human rights organizations confirms this observation.
And if the women I saw on Figueroa are any indication, discerning which are involved in prostitution does not require sophisticated sartorial judgments but only two eyes and a brain. If a woman is wearing a G-string bikini in the middle of the street and if she's flagging down cars -- while men in dark clothes stand watch, as if holding an invisible leash -- she is very likely to be a modern-day sex slave.

In order to "protect" people like Martha P. Johnson (top of the post) from loitering charges, California officials abandon children and women to sex slavery.

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Divine Trans

He's saying that "cisness" is false consciousness and that transness is liberation and divinity. This is so much of new age, gnostic, hermetic/occult, and even some Eastern "spirituality" followed to its logical endpoint. This is where it takes you. https://t.co/UFQoE5oEdG
— Nua, Toxically Normal (@nua_peasant) April 11, 2023

Trans activists attacking women

"Trans ideology is a sect of the broader Woke theology that denies the biological sexes� fundamental reality. On Friday, a trans activist student at San Francisco State University acknowledged that biological men could not currently give birth but told us that doctors were�
— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) April 9, 2023

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Secular Spirituality in K-12 Schools

Well-researched piece by Lisa Logan. Leftists Violate Separation Of Church And State With 'Spiritual' SEL In Public Schools

Social-emotional learning (SEL) is a mental-health framework that has woven itself into the very fabric of our education system.
Standards, assessments, curricula, and even college and career readiness standards have been altered to teach, measure, and track students' adoption of SEL's five core competencies -- put forth by its standard-bearer, the Collaborative for Academic Social Emotional Learning (CASEL). . .
In 2020, amid the chaos of the global pandemic and racial riots, CASEL quietly updated that definition and its five core competencies. Its new definition of Transformative SEL and adjusted competencies reflect the view that so-called social and emotional learning needs to be taught through a racial and "equity" lens.
SEL lessons and the subjects addressed through them act as both a springboard and smokescreen for activist teachers to have discussions about race, sex, and class that aim to create a critical consciousness in children. . .

As if this departure from its original purpose were not destructive enough, social-emotional learning is undergoing another revision -- one that will seek to address the spiritual needs of students as a part of the Whole School, Whole Community, Whole Child (WSCC) model.
Created by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Association for Supervision and Curriculum Development (ASCD), WSCC claims to create a comprehensive school health approach by fostering collaboration among the public health and education sectors through the integration and alignment of their services, far beyond hearing and vision screenings.
These public-private partnerships will take other medical and mental health services that are generally rendered out of school and facilitated by parents and caregivers and instead allow them to be offered as aid provided by the school so the needs of the "whole child" can be met. Spirituality will soon be seen as one of those needs. . .

There's still room to fight back right now.

I�ve just received this incredible update.

I met this couple in Halifax, Nova Scotia nearly two years ago. Their daughter was really struggling, and in one of the worst cases I�ve seen, was being groomed by the school psychologist to think she was a boy.

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— Billboard Chris 🇨🇦🇺🇸 (@BillboardChris) April 9, 2023

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Manipulation

Does this work with trans men?

To reduce cleaning costs, Amsterdam Airport printed pictures of flies inside urinals, thinking men would aim at the flies while using the bathroom, reducing the amount of urine landing outside the urinals

Their plan worked pic.twitter.com/xlLY6olyje
— UberFacts (@UberFacts) April 8, 2023

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Music

A song you never hear anymore. I am woman, hear me roar

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, April 8, The Parting of the Waters

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:14 AM

Comments

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1 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 11:15 AM (xhxe8)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 11:19 AM (T4tVD)

3 Thank you KT !

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 11:20 AM (T4tVD)

4 Hi, Skip.

Posted by: KT at April 15, 2023 11:20 AM (rrtZS)

5 As Jesse Kelly says, its the New Religion of the US of Gay.

Posted by: blaster at April 15, 2023 11:20 AM (pwExq)

6 I’ve followed the lead recently of the boys on the CJB podcast in referring to that segment of “society” as transsexuals. Apparently they/them/it don’t like it. Much as I as a straight male don’t like being called cis.
Eff them.

Posted by: Buzzy Krumhunger at April 15, 2023 11:22 AM (KVdE8)

7 PRO TIP: Don't expect wisdom from someone with green and red hair.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 15, 2023 11:23 AM (s12c9)

8 I will stick with the Lord and the natural way of things.

Posted by: Infidel at April 15, 2023 11:24 AM (/0+YE)

9 Shorter: Go Woke, go to h*ll.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 15, 2023 11:26 AM (Z8YL4)

10 adherents to this religion cannot be reached through reason

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In my darker moments, I analogize our current predicament to trying to denazify Himmler, Heydrich, and the guys. You know that whole kill the Jews thing? Yeah, well, that was evil.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 15, 2023 11:29 AM (FVME7)

11 Semi-nooded (I was going to post, but saw the nood just in time): If you want Coke with actual cane sugar, the Mexican stuff has it as does the Kosher variety.

Certain areas (like mine) have the Kosher on sale (special code printed on the cap) over the Jewish holidays (like Passover). True fans stock up at these times of year.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 11:29 AM (llXky)

12

It should be law that ALL trannies MUST have their junk cut off and a Tilapia Twat be inserted.

A lot of this shit would dry up.

Posted by: The Rectum of Ella Fitzgerald at April 15, 2023 11:30 AM (a2NKx)

13 Whoa boy! Good thing I had my first sip of coffee before I saw that. Yikes! Egads!

I tried to go trans once, but my 10" cock kept getting in the way.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 11:30 AM (uAY3R)

14 Lol
Sexuality and Sex are most important to those not having enough

Posted by: Paul at April 15, 2023 11:30 AM (JpgI8)

15 Human trafficking is slavery

Posted by: Kindltot at April 15, 2023 11:31 AM (xhaym)

16 I don't have much hope. I'm not getting any younger, and it seems the fight that is happening outside my personal space is being lost to the madness of self-destruction, rot, and hate.

I'm not a warrior anymore. I moved away from the big city in large part because I knew it was a lost cause. Now whole states are lost causes, because the rot won't stay where it started.

Eventually it'll reach here, but by then, hopefully I'll be gone. Let God sort this out. I'm done with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 11:31 AM (5aiaB)

17 >>To reduce cleaning costs, Amsterdam Airport printed pictures of flies inside urinals, thinking men would aim at the flies while using the bathroom, reducing the amount of urine landing outside the urinals

>>Their plan worked

Can confirm. I used to fly through Schiphol on a regular basis and battled the fly. I never won. Damn thing would not die.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)

18 Trans is Luciferian horseshit.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 11:32 AM (Zzbjj)

19 In my darker moments, I analogize our current predicament to trying to denazify Himmler, Heydrich, and the guys. You know that whole kill the Jews thing? Yeah, well, that was evil.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 15, 2023 11:29 AM (FVME7)
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Over the past couple of years I have fully embraced Spiritual Warfare to describe what is going on. The trans thing is pure demonic, and hearkens back to pagan practices.

The way to defeat it is not with FACTS and REASON but with faith. That is why it is entirely necessary for evil to be called out, including denominations that have given themselves over to the Enemy.

I've noticed a significant shift in Catholic circles about being "nice." From pastors up to the bishops, more of them are saying we need to be clear and direct about what sin is and what it does. That crucial front has been neglected for too long.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 11:33 AM (llXky)

20 This thread is very jumpy for me.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2023 11:33 AM (45fpk)

21 If some clown wants to make believe he's a woman, I don't care. If he wants me to believe it too, I'm free to laugh my ass off at him.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2023 11:34 AM (anj39)

22 Of course it's a religion. You gotta serve somebody.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 15, 2023 11:34 AM (45fpk)

23 20 This thread is very jumpy for me.
Posted by: grammie winger

It's transitioning...

Posted by: General Disarray at April 15, 2023 11:34 AM (a2NKx)

24 19. No negotiation with evil.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 11:34 AM (Zzbjj)

25 It should be law that ALL trannies MUST have their junk cut off and a Tilapia Twat be inserted.

A lot of this shit would dry up.
Posted by: The Rectum of Ella Fitzgerald at April 15, 2023 11:30 AM (a2NKx)

Personally I'm against laws that mutilate people against their will.

But I'm also personally against any attempt to get me to call a person with a penis, a woman.

Seems to me "free speech" would solve the problem much better, because any law that forces things to be done to people against their will is a form of slavery. If we're being technical about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 11:34 AM (5aiaB)

26 James Lindsay would also argue that the normies don't have a plan to fight back

..
He has a firm grip on the obvious.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at April 15, 2023 11:36 AM (FcrG2)

27 I'm not a warrior anymore. I moved away from the big city in large part because I knew it was a lost cause. Now whole states are lost causes, because the rot won't stay where it started.

Eventually it'll reach here, but by then, hopefully I'll be gone. Let God sort this out. I'm done with it.
Posted by: BurtTC a

^^^^ THIS ^^^^

[fist-bump]

As an aside, now residing in ETX, in all of my years on this planet, this has been the best Spring season ever.

Beautiful, near perfect weather, none of the urban dysfunction encroaching on my slice of heaven. Went for a three kilometer swim in the lake the other day, go fish after work, fellowship with outstanding neighbors...

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 15, 2023 11:36 AM (YXHzG)

28 Bob Lee's murder is quite the sorted affair

Posted by: REDACTED at April 15, 2023 11:36 AM (us2H3)

29 And Paul should know all about that...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 15, 2023 11:37 AM (Z8YL4)

30 sorry sorid

Posted by: REDACTED at April 15, 2023 11:37 AM (us2H3)

31 25 Healthy body parts should not be removed.
I'm 65, I know of no one who killed themselves over not being spayed or neuteted. Not one. This is a huge lie.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 11:38 AM (Zzbjj)

32 sorry sorid
Posted by: REDACTED at April 15, 2023 11:37 AM (us2H3)

Heh, try again.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 11:38 AM (5aiaB)

33 Seems to me "free speech" would solve the problem much better, because any law that forces things to be done to people against their will is a form of slavery. If we're being technical about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 11:34 AM (5aiaB)
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A big part of the problem is that traditional religions censored themselves in the name "Christian ethics." They wanted to prove they weren't "haters" so they stayed silent. Now at last they are realizing the true gravity of the situation.

The debate is no longer over what "two consenting adults" do, it's about children being exploited and brainwashed into mutilating themselves while smiling doctors perform the "medically necessary" procedure with zero long-term evidence that it works.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 11:39 AM (llXky)

34 A big part of the problem is that traditional religions censored themselves in the name "Christian ethics."

"Christian Ethics" = "save the 501(c)3 tax status"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 15, 2023 11:41 AM (YXHzG)

35 Pritzgers as far as the eye can see. For all you history buffs, which groups were the eunuchs dedicated to fighting? Janissaries?

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2023 11:41 AM (MIKMs)

36 It's absolute evil, tarted up with that fucking " social justice" label.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 11:41 AM (Zzbjj)

37 >>The debate is no longer over what "two consenting adults" do, it's about children being exploited and brainwashed into mutilating themselves while smiling doctors perform the "medically necessary" procedure with zero long-term evidence that it works.

On the contrary, there is mountains of evidence it does not work. Because it cannot work.

Transgenderism is a mental illness. You can't "fix it" by hacking off genitals.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 11:42 AM (ZLI7S)

38 I read a book a while ago, Children of Nazis by Tania Crasnianski, which discussed the various reaction of children of big shot Nazis. Among the subjects was Mengele's son who went to South America as an adult to meet dad. He was shocked to realize that Dr. Mengele was unrepentant. He was still a Nazi because 1) he believed in science and 2) they were only Jews.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 15, 2023 11:46 AM (FVME7)

39 "Christian Ethics" = "save the 501(c)3 tax status"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 15, 2023 11:41 AM (YXHzG)

Right. This is the quiet part, that speech is now violence, and everyone... I do mean EVERYONE who is depending on someone else for their financial stability, however you do it, has their speech stifled by a system that is no less Stalin's was.

In some ways, more oppressive, because you don't have to wait for the headlights to shine on your home anymore. The lights are always on, and they're always watching.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 11:47 AM (5aiaB)

40 37 it's largely a cruel psy op. Many kids are unhappy about their bodies, this was the case when I was a kid too. Most are just having typical issues with self acceptance and these go away. Now you have a vicious industry dedicated to telling them their problems can magically go away and that it is possible to get surgical happiness. It's a lie.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (Zzbjj)

41 Someone on the blog recently commented that he (or she) observes people walking around who are "like demons". Demonic possession was pooh-poohed for many years, even by myself, as unscientific. I have changed my thinking on that.
Demonic possession explains a lot of things that are happening right before our eyes, including that thing in the video above. After all, what is the goal of the demons and the most high demon of all?
Destruction not only of humanity but of all creation.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (jTmQV)

42 This is such a sad commentary on the world today. It is such a huge step backwards for women's rights and yet the left thinks they are being virtuous and woke. Let's tell girls that to be successful in life you have to be a boy. How does that make sense? Notice that it is boys pretending to be girls holding onto their boy parts getting all the attention while girls are being mutilated and hidden away because the left knows how abhorrent this is to the general public.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (Y+l9t)

43 Any Moron reviews of the movie "The Jesus Revolution"?

Posted by: m at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (Ww1lp)

44 Toward a liberal-conservative alliance against Wokeism:

Wokeism is just a head of the Satanist, Globalist Hydra.

Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (e2onP)

45 Trans is Luciferian horseshit.
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 11:32 AM (Zzbjj)

Ah!
Simple
Straight forward
To the point.

Newsletter?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2023 11:52 AM (anj39)

46 Every destructive movement is first disguised as altruism. This is known.
BTW, relevant to my last comment, there is a new movie coming out starring Russell Crowe as an exorcist.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 11:52 AM (jTmQV)

47 You do great work, KT.

That look at the reality of trans theology is completely depressing. I’ve been saying for awhile now: It’s demonic….. sterilizing children, sex trafficking… there’s a special place in hell for the people pushing this.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 15, 2023 11:53 AM (xT8gx)

48 "Christian Ethics" = "save the 501(c)3 tax status"

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 15, 2023 11:41 AM (YXHzG)
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No, and that's a very materialist explanation that doesn't provide any helpful analysis.

These people believed what they were doing was Christian, and they are now realizing the mistake and correcting it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 11:53 AM (llXky)

49 Any Moron reviews of the movie "The Jesus Revolution"?

I saw it. My response was "Meh."

In 1968, I was 13 and receiving Confirmation in the Catholic Church. I wasn't a burned-out refugee from Haight-Ashbury.

The fact that Calvary Chapel went after those folks and got them back on the path of righteousness is wonderful. But it did not have a personal impact on me. Back in 1978?, my wife took me to Calvary Chapel (what had been before the North Park Theater) for a free showing of "The Hiding Place." Great film.

But no, I am not a Baptist.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 11:54 AM (5u1+1)

50 So I'm guessing the take away about bathrooms in Amsterdam's airport is there is no five second rule for dropped food items.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2023 11:55 AM (anj39)

51 Demonic possession explains a lot of things that are happening right before our eyes, including that thing in the video above. After all, what is the goal of the demons and the most high demon of all?
Destruction not only of humanity but of all creation.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (jTmQV)
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Demonic possession doesn't just happen. The victim has to either invite the demon in or have someone with authority (i.e. parents) "sacrifice" them. Demonic *oppression* does just happen, and can pop up without warning. Oppression can lead to possession, but oppression is also easier to ward off.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 11:56 AM (llXky)

52 Reminds me of something my Dear old Dad said once. "You don't have to pay to get in. You have to pay to get out."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 11:56 AM (5u1+1)

53 wut?

Forget the trust thing.

@bennyjohnson

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Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 11:57 AM (ZLI7S)

54 Not sure you can make me think Trannie is not mental illness

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 11:58 AM (xhxe8)

55 And at least child prostitution isn't slavery

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 11:58 AM (xhxe8)

56 This is why I think that the divided denominations have to accept a split. I'll use the Anglicans as my example for obvious reasons. The "Global South" have recognized that they cannot share Communion with churches that perpetrate evil acts.

They also understand that the Wokes are every bit as committed to their new faith as the traditionalists are. In fact, they are MORE committed because they are willing to destroy the Anglican Communion in order to get their way. At a certain point, you cannot keep trying to hold people together whose views are diametrically opposed. It's interesting to see how many senior Anglican clergy are now converting to Catholicism.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 11:59 AM (llXky)

57 You have entire Satanic churches today, they hold ceremonies. Very fast growing churches, too, I might add. Public demon statuary in public places. Crowds shouting "Hail Satan".
If that isn't an invitation, I don't know what is.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 11:59 AM (jTmQV)

58 I used to put cheerios in the toilet when my boys were young. It worked for a while. Then they saw "Ghostbusters."

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2023 11:59 AM (U2p+3)

59 Now you have a vicious industry dedicated to telling them their problems can magically go away and that it is possible to get surgical happiness. It's a lie.
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Not only surgical happiness, but lifetime drug dependency.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2023 12:00 PM (MIKMs)

60 >>>Any Moron reviews of the movie "The Jesus Revolution"?

Posted by: m

>>Is that the one where Jesus has an accent like he just came from a Shakespeare In The Park festival?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 12:00 PM (uAY3R)

61 Not only surgical happiness, but lifetime drug dependency.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2023 12:00 PM (MIKMs)
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Lifelong hormone replacement therapy. Weird how that is acceptable given that the original purpose for it has proven too harmful.

"Here, try this off-label! Yeah, we don't use it for what it was meant for, but we can use it on kids!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:01 PM (llXky)

62 Who does he think he is? Carmen Miranda?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 15, 2023 12:03 PM (zZu0s)

63 I used to put cheerios in the toilet when my boys were young. It worked for a while. Then they saw "Ghostbusters."
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 15, 2023 11:59 AM (U2p+3)

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Southpaw at April 15, 2023 12:03 PM (T/Lqj)

64 Democrats by and large look at their political affiliation as their "religion." They're also quite rabid about it. They also want to convert the rest of us.

Sort of like the jihadis want to convert non-believers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 15, 2023 12:03 PM (Q4IgG)

65 Any Moron reviews of the movie "The Jesus Revolution"?

Posted by: m at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (Ww1lp)
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An evangelical friend of mine saw it and liked it. I hate going to the movies, so I'll stream it or visit the local library when it comes out on DVD or whatnot.

I liked the trailer and think that we may be due for a revival like it. A lot of people thirst for the water of everlasting life, they just don't know about it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:04 PM (llXky)

66 Democrats by and large look at their political affiliation as their "religion." They're also quite rabid about it. They also want to convert the rest of us.

Sort of like the jihadis want to convert non-believers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 15, 2023 12:03 PM (Q4IgG)
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I know a woman who has changed churches at least five times. She has always remained loyal to the Democrats, however.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (llXky)

67 Dude with danger hair looks like his lips are calibrated to accept something about of a grilled bratwurst.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (4svuj)

68 54 Not sure you can make me think Trannie is not mental illness
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 11:58 AM (xhxe

Only if you accept that mental illness can be taught. The little kids saying they are the opposite gender are not doing this spontaneously out of a delusion, they are doing it to get approval and love from the evil parents and teachers who should be giving it without an evil precondition. It's conditioning...not delusion.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (Zzbjj)

69
About five years ago my wife lost her job teaching at a Catholic School because of declining enrollment. Watching the so-called 'woke' movement and talking with neighbors with young children has me expecting that school to re-open. People are quietly revolted and want their young children to have nothing to do with public schools.

I think the 'silent majority' is going to return from hiding. I have a dream.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (enJYY)

70 And at least child prostitution isn't slavery
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Pimping for the state or drug companies is freedom.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2023 12:07 PM (MIKMs)

71 Is that the one where Jesus has an accent like he just came from a Shakespeare In The Park festival?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 12:00 PM (uAY3R)

WUT? Next, you'll be telling me that he didn't sound like Jeffery Hunter either.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at April 15, 2023 12:07 PM (Zvtjl)

72 Cigarette butts > Flies

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 15, 2023 12:08 PM (+Wcyp)

73 I've been listening to several of James Lindsay's New Discourses podcasts. They're very good at giving me a framework for understanding the framework of Leftism.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 12:08 PM (2qWzw)

74 About five years ago my wife lost her job teaching at a Catholic School because of declining enrollment. Watching the so-called 'woke' movement and talking with neighbors with young children has me expecting that school to re-open. People are quietly revolted and want their young children to have nothing to do with public schools.

I think the 'silent majority' is going to return from hiding. I have a dream.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (enJYY)
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Our diocese has seen the biggest surge in enrollment in more than 20 years. Schools are being expanded and new ones are opening to keep up with demand.

Radical change from just four or five years ago, but Covid wrecked the public schools around here, some of which used to be quite good.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:08 PM (llXky)

75 When humans start thinking they're gods , like multi-colored hair guy, the rest of we simple humans are in mortal danger. Every culture has vengeful gods who think nothing of abusing and/or killing mortals. The trans movement is very like those gods who turned mortals into animals or other creatures for there own selfish reasons .

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 15, 2023 12:08 PM (cHmTg)

76 Lo these many years ago when I was in school, we had to read the play Rhinoceros by Eugene Ionesco. It's an absurdist play that analogizes people becoming Nazis to people turning into rhinoceroses. At the time, I thought it was a bunch of pseudo-intellectual crap but now I see people turning into rhinoceroses before my eyes. If I understood the play correctly (and that's a big "if"), a theme was the radicalization of people by a cult of personality.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 15, 2023 12:09 PM (FVME7)

77 Only if you accept that mental illness can be taught. The little kids saying they are the opposite gender are not doing this spontaneously out of a delusion, they are doing it to get approval and love from the evil parents and teachers who should be giving it without an evil precondition. It's conditioning...not delusion.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (Zzbjj)
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Note how they also get "renaming" ceremonies now - a special party just for you! It really was stunning how fast the Church of England went from "no re-baptisms" to "yeah, re-naming ceremonies are a thing now."

What is that but a demonic sacrifice, profaning what used to be a sacred space?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:11 PM (llXky)

78 Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 15, 2023 12:08 PM (cHmTg)

Luciferianism. The idea that people can become God. It's very common right now, and they want to "reassign" gender, have the power of life and death, and go to the Conboy lab for eternal life. Jared saying he might be immortal was a sign that the Kushners must never again be "advisors"

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:12 PM (Zzbjj)

79 Tranny is probably a combo of mental illness and demonic oppression… they feed off each other. Which came first: chicken or egg? Who knows but TPTB encouraging it are demonic no doubt in my mind

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 15, 2023 12:12 PM (JIRK+)

80 67 Dude with danger hair looks like his lips are calibrated to accept something about of a grilled bratwurst.
Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (4svuj)

Darn you.

I love bratwurst. I remember when I was a kid and Mom and my aunt would take me to Bingo night. Mom would work in the canteen/kitchen and my Aunt would play Bingo. They'd make bratwurst (I 'think' boiled) and they were the most delicious thing I had ever tasted. It is a great childhood memory.

Never have been able to get them to taste like that as an adult.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 15, 2023 12:12 PM (zZu0s)

81 Lo these many years ago when I was in school, we had to read the play Rhinoceros by Eugene Ionesco.
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Right You Are If You Think You Are -- Pirandello.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2023 12:12 PM (MIKMs)

82 Oh you absolutely can teach a person, especially a kid, to become mentally unstable. Some mental imbalance is can't be helped to occur but much is taught.

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:13 PM (xhxe8)

83 Our diocese has seen the biggest surge in enrollment in more than 20 years. Schools are being expanded and new ones are opening to keep up with demand.

Radical change from just four or five years ago, but Covid wrecked the public schools around here, some of which used to be quite good.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:08 PM (llXky)
***

Big up tick in home schooling as well.
My grandkids are doing quite well.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2023 12:13 PM (anj39)

84 What is that but a demonic sacrifice, profaning what used to be a sacred space?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:11 PM (llXky)

My former synagogue does "renaming ceremonies" and has ended Bar and Bat Mitzvahs. It now calls them B'Mitzvahs. Gender free. They are losing members, and I hope they go under.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:14 PM (Zzbjj)

85 Only if you accept that mental illness can be taught. The little kids saying they are the opposite gender are not doing this spontaneously out of a delusion, they are doing it to get approval and love from the evil parents and teachers who should be giving it without an evil precondition. It's conditioning...not delusion.
Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:05 PM (Zzbjj)

I haven't looked at it very closely, but there is an aspect of it that MIGHT be mental illness by conditioning. If it's been done during developmental years, let's say up to around age 8.

Permanent brain damage can and is caused by environmental circumstances to which small children are exposed.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 12:16 PM (5aiaB)

86 Brats are awesome grilled or cooked in saurkraut

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:16 PM (xhxe8)

87 Never have been able to get them to taste like that as an adult.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 15, 2023 12:12 PM (zZu0s)

I boil mine in beer. Excellent flavor.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 15, 2023 12:16 PM (anj39)

88 My former synagogue does "renaming ceremonies" and has ended Bar and Bat Mitzvahs. It now calls them B'Mitzvahs. Gender free. They are losing members, and I hope they go under.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:14 PM (Zzbjj)
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They need to - they are objectively spreading lies about the Jewish faith, actively confusing and deceiving people.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (llXky)

89 Permanent brain damage can and is caused by environmental circumstances to which small children are exposed.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 12:16 PM (5aiaB)

lead paint?

Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (AwYPR)

90 IC assets running beer companies.

IC assets running technology companies.

IC assets running magazines and newspapers.

Totally normal.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (+Wcyp)

91 Our diocese has seen the biggest surge in enrollment in more than 20 years. Schools are being expanded

Growth, you say? Keep an eye out for infiltration. The locusts of subversion are drawn to abundance. I don't know how it's done, but we need some new tactic that prevents it.

Posted by: t-bird at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (Sv58p)

92
Our diocese has seen the biggest surge in enrollment in more than 20 years. Schools are being expanded and new ones are opening to keep up with demand.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:08 PM

Good news. My fear is if my wife's former school reopens that they were smart enough to keep all the computers and my software for office and 5,000 book library safe. I can't do it again. I erased everything on my side because everything always stays the same and never changes.

* record scratch *

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 15, 2023 12:18 PM (enJYY)

93 And at least child prostitution isn't slavery
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Pimping for the state or drug companies is freedom.
Posted by: mustbequantum at April 15, 2023 12:07 PM (MIKMs)

Just wait until you get a look at the economic liberty that comes with having to recite one's pronouns, and show proof of one's participation in certain causes to be able to access your bank account.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 12:18 PM (5aiaB)

94 Scott Wiener is transforming the state

******

Heh. But of course he is.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 15, 2023 12:19 PM (ykeLU)

95 82 Oh you absolutely can teach a person, especially a kid, to become mentally unstable. Some mental imbalance is can't be helped to occur but much is taught.
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:13 PM (xhxe

But they're not delusional, they're like experiencing operant conditioning. The parents, teachers, and healthcare people who participate in this should be locked away.

I read that Florida passed a death penalty for pedos. While I think that would be nice, I suspect that in the blue cities juries will just let them walk instead. The idea may be to send a strong signal, but in practice, I think it will be a boon to pedos, and it will encourage them to murder the star witness.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:19 PM (Zzbjj)

96 Permanent brain damage can and is caused by environmental circumstances to which small children are exposed.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 12:16 PM (5aiaB)

lead paint?
Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (AwYPR)

There are other types of abuse, neglect, and toxic exposure that occur in the lives of young children, other than lead paint.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 12:19 PM (5aiaB)

97 89 Permanent brain damage can and is caused by environmental circumstances to which small children are exposed.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 12:16 PM (5aiaB)

lead paint?
Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (AwYPR)

Mmmmmm. Cigarette smoke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 15, 2023 12:21 PM (zZu0s)

98 They need to - they are objectively spreading lies about the Jewish faith, actively confusing and deceiving people.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (llXky)

They even have a trans cantor now. The old normal one either abruptly quit or was fired. The bulletin they sent me has erased him and has made no mention of a "retirement" or "new job". Very unusual.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:22 PM (Zzbjj)

99 must go beyond being conservative and become anti-communist
This is right, as long as you understand "communism" is only one denomination within the Marxist religion. "Progressivism" is another, and the prime one we're fighting in America. And you understand that it cannot be fought against without going back to Christian morals and how Christian morals support American principles.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:23 PM (NJ9MR)

100 Brats cooked in saurkraut and beer I'll be over

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:23 PM (xhxe8)

101 >>>Never have been able to get them to taste like that as an adult.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

>Beer and onions are a good starting point. My German-American buddy (unfortunate son of a NAZi) made some of the best brats evar! Brats, Kraut, onions, buns, mustard, potato salad. And Bier!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 12:25 PM (uAY3R)

102 It's always difficult assisting a person who comes to realize that the people who are supposed to care for him are hurting him instead. It's a shocking betrayal, but it CAN be weathered and helped. To say that someone is "ruined for life" is a huge error. Yes, the neutering is ruinous for life, but intervening before that is healthy.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:25 PM (Zzbjj)

103 Brats cooked in saurkraut and beer I'll be over

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:23 PM (xhxe

Beer and onions are a good starting point. My German-American buddy (unfortunate son of a NAZi) made some of the best brats evar! Brats, Kraut, onions, buns, mustard, potato salad. And Bier!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 12:25 PM (uAY3R)

mustard?...what type?

Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2023 12:26 PM (AwYPR)

104 The response of Christian clergy (and probably rabbis too… I just don’t know) to Covid gives me little hope that pastors will take a stand against the trans theology. They closed their churches for a year or more with barely a whimper of protest. I don’t see them pushing back against this either…. There will be local exceptions, but broadly I’m not optimistic

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 15, 2023 12:27 PM (JIRK+)

105 I will continue my inbev boycott until they endorse Jesus Christ with the slogan. "King of Beer for the King of Jews", or some facsimile. Till then, inbev is outbev.

Posted by: WhitePunk at April 15, 2023 12:29 PM (sh7Ef)

106 It's the "great reset, nude green eel, inflation reduction act". I include ira, because who knows what's buried in that monstrosity?

Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2023 12:30 PM (AwYPR)

107 Abigail Shrier, back in January, took aim

Well, now, I found slavery in California that deserves reparations.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:30 PM (ynpvh)

108 22 Of course it's a religion. You gotta serve somebody.
Posted by: grammie winger

Truth

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 12:31 PM (2qWzw)

109 105 I will continue my inbev boycott until they endorse Jesus Christ with the slogan. "King of Beer for the King of Jews", or some facsimile. Till then, inbev is outbev.

Posted by: WhitePunk at April 15, 2023 12:29 PM (sh7Ef)

The closest you'll get is a queer tranny Jesus hailing the king of beers. Does that work? Probably not.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

110 Our little parochial school closed last year. But in the propaganda organ (what my Mom used to call the monthly periodical) from the Bishop he touts how committed he is to education.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:32 PM (5u1+1)

111 tl;dr

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 15, 2023 12:32 PM (ZSK0i)

112 @bennyjohnson

Budweiser CEO Just DELETED His Account When Exposed As A CIA Agent | Deep State Beer In Panic
Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 11:57 AM (ZLI7S)

I believe that many CEOS and other key people--as well as most people who run the media, from newspapers to cable networks to social media--are not just doing the bidding of the CIA, the FBI and other LEO/spook organizations--but ARE actual agents. I've long believed this.

But now I'm starting to think that many Senators, congressmen and judges are AGENTS as well

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:32 PM (mR6Gs)

113 Or Kings of Beers kneeling to the King of Kings.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (5u1+1)

114 112 He exposed himself.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (Zzbjj)

115 Way back at beginning of Covid read a large volume on the 100 years war and in middle of it and the Black Death plague Italian health officials tried to stop Church services to stop the spread. The Pope excommunicated those health officials stating nothing should stop church services.

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (xhxe8)

116 @109 Jesus died for trannies and those who portray him as such, so maybe.

Posted by: WhitePunk at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (sh7Ef)

117 My former synagogue does "renaming ceremonies" and has ended Bar and Bat Mitzvahs. It now calls them B'Mitzvahs. Gender free. They are losing members, and I hope they go under.

Posted by: CN

what's a bat mitzvah ?

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (T4tVD)

118 Woke theology that denies the biological sexes’ fundamental reality.
It's not "woke" that's the theology. Progressivism is the theology. Woke is just progressive fundamentalism.

And fundamentalism has a couple of prime doctrinal pillars associated with this: hedonism and transhumanism. Hedonism is merely pleasure without consequence - abortion, "sex work", "free love" (they don't even know what love is), drugs, homosexuality, etc. Transhumanism includes the "transgender" movement, as well as the cybernetic movement (which only rears its weird, cyborg head every once in a while).

It's all to elevate man - via "reason" - above God. They think with "reason" they can make a heaven on earth. It ain't gonna work out that way.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (NJ9MR)

119 Meanwhile, in Africa . . .

Reuters
@Reuters
Sudan's main paramilitary group said it seized the presidential palace, the army chief's residence and Khartoum international airport in an apparent coup attempt. The military said it was fighting back

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I have no idea who these guys are or what they believe.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (FVME7)

120 Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:14 PM

Should have called it a ‘bitsvah” , the ceremony prior to getting various “bits” chopped off, or a “”binvah”- a celebration of being non binary./s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (LcHgM)

121 lead paint?
Posted by: BignJames at April 15, 2023 12:17 PM (AwYPR)

It was the Lead in car exhaust not kids mindlessly eating paint chips that lead to the high Lead level in kids.
I was dropping shotgun shot back in the 90's and being tested monthly by one of the top tier doctors in Lead poisoning. He statistically proved that Leaded fuel was responsable. I've seen the charts. Years of data before and since banning Lead in gas.
It was all published in one of his dissertations for some degree.

Posted by: Reforger at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (E/5X+)

122 what's a bat mitzvah ?
Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (T4tVD)

A bar for girls.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (NJ9MR)

123 Progressivism has become a corrupted word. It used to stand for things like basic literacy, sanitation, hospitals and libraries. All laudatory things. You know, "progress".
Now? It's the opposite.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 12:35 PM (jTmQV)

124 117 My former synagogue does "renaming ceremonies" and has ended Bar and Bat Mitzvahs. It now calls them B'Mitzvahs. Gender free. They are losing members, and I hope they go under.

Posted by: CN

what's a bat mitzvah ?

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (T4tVD)

Coming of age ceremony for jewish girls. Bat = daughter in hebrew

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

125 Way back at beginning of Covid read a large volume on the 100 years war and in middle of it and the Black Death plague Italian health officials tried to stop Church services to stop the spread. The Pope excommunicated those health officials stating nothing should stop church services.
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (xhxe

So many people stopped going to Church , or Masses continued until the priests and most of the parishioners were dead

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:35 PM (mR6Gs)

126 what's a bat mitzvah ?
Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (T4tVD)

A Bar Mitzvah for girls

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2023 12:35 PM (Irn0L)

127 Should have called it a ‘bitsvah” , the ceremony prior to getting various “bits” chopped off, or a “”binvah”- a celebration of being non binary./s
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (LcHgM)

Except that no one can have a bar or bat mitzvah their only non-binary B'

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:35 PM (Zzbjj)

128 Someone on the blog recently commented that he (or she) observes people walking around who are "like demons". Demonic possession was pooh-poohed for many years, even by myself, as unscientific. I have changed my thinking on that.

Posted by: gourmand du jour

I find it illuminating that these sexually confused people insist on being called 'they', just like legion.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 15, 2023 12:36 PM (CSaNR)

129 I am woman, hear me roar
It's much easier to roar when you're full of testosterone.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:36 PM (NJ9MR)

130 Both my daughters had Bat Mitzvahs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 15, 2023 12:36 PM (Irn0L)

131 what's a bat mitzvah ?
Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (T4tVD)

A bar for girls.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (NJ9MR)

Where it's always ladies night

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:36 PM (mR6Gs)

132 120 Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:14 PM

Should have called it a ‘bitsvah” , the ceremony prior to getting various “bits” chopped off, or a “”binvah”- a celebration of being non binary./s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2023 12:34 PM (LcHgM)

BatShit Mesuggah.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

133 When the Bishop of Charleston closed the churches in SC and denied the faithful the Sacraments, including Confession, I was pissed.

When they re-opened, I went to Confession to confessed the sin of Anger. Since then, I think it was perhaps a righteous anger and, therefore, not a sin.

We lost maybe a third of our flock. If they do it again, I will move to somewhere there is a Bishop with balls.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:37 PM (5u1+1)

134 115 Way back at beginning of Covid read a large volume on the 100 years war and in middle of it and the Black Death plague Italian health officials tried to stop Church services to stop the spread. The Pope excommunicated those health officials stating nothing should stop church services.
Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (xhxe

Book name? Please.

Posted by: Reforger at April 15, 2023 12:37 PM (E/5X+)

135 129 I am woman, hear me roar
It's much easier to roar when you're full of testosterone.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:36 PM (NJ9MR)

That's why the trannies are better at it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:38 PM (ynpvh)

136 Whatever happened to "play with whatever toys you like"? Just a few years ago, boys could play with the kitchen set and girls could play with the toy trucks. Now this is a prescription for disaster.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:38 PM (Zzbjj)

137 Coming of age ceremony for jewish girls. Bat = daughter in hebrew
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Thank you.

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:38 PM (T4tVD)

138 "They closed their churches for a year or more with barely a whimper of protest. I don’t see them pushing back against this either…. There will be local exceptions, but broadly I’m not optimistic
Posted by: LinusVanPelt"
****************
This is where I am, too. At a time of crisis the clergy shut the doors and locked the flock out. This was not an example of serious leadership or of being good Shepards. The shepards became the sheep of the government.

Posted by: Cosda at April 15, 2023 12:38 PM (D0cLN)

139 Reuters
@Reuters
Sudan's main paramilitary group said it seized the presidential palace, the army chief's residence and Khartoum international airport in an apparent coup attempt. The military said it was fighting back

Time for sad faced Michelle and another #hashtag

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:38 PM (mR6Gs)

140 137 Coming of age ceremony for jewish girls. Bat = daughter in hebrew
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Thank you.

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:38 PM (T4tVD)

Although Batman would be daughter man?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

141 You have entire Satanic churches today, they hold ceremonies. Very fast growing churches, too, I might add. Public demon statuary in public places. Crowds shouting "Hail Satan".
If that isn't an invitation, I don't know what is.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 11:59 AM (jTmQV)
~~~~~

Have you seen the trailer for Nefarious?

Posted by: IrishEi at April 15, 2023 12:39 PM (3ImbR)

142 I guess Batman would better be translated as Daughter Manna...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

143 >>>mustard?...what type?

Posted by: BignJames

>He liked a not too sweet spicy Bavarian mustard. He lived around one of those German Alpine-type villages where they share a sense of culture and comradery and have all sorts of small-time shops.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 12:40 PM (uAY3R)

144 Went for a three kilometer swim in the lake the other day, go fish after work

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 15, 2023 11:36 AM (YXHzG)

Do you, ummm, fish and swim in the same spot? Because that seems to be tempting fate....

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:40 PM (NJ9MR)

145 141 You have entire Satanic churches today, they hold ceremonies. Very fast growing churches, too, I might add. Public demon statuary in public places. Crowds shouting "Hail Satan".
If that isn't an invitation, I don't know what is.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 11:59 AM (jTmQV)
~~~~~

Have you seen the trailer for Nefarious?

Posted by: IrishEi at April 15, 2023 12:39 PM (3ImbR)

There was a survey of dems and their like/dislike of certain religions. Satanism ranked higher than conservative Momonism...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

146 Although Batman would be daughter man?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

If her name was Robin

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:40 PM (mR6Gs)

147 Skip, yeah. And the Catholic Church lost 50% of Her priests to the Black Death. Then, to find replacements, they ordained a metric shit-ton of "unsuitable" men.

I will make a post on tomorrow's Book thread about it from Barbara Tuchman's "A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:41 PM (5u1+1)

148 what's a bat mitzvah ?
Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (T4tVD)

20 bucks. Same as in town. (Ok, I'm going to Hell)

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at April 15, 2023 12:42 PM (Zvtjl)

149 I will make a post on tomorrow's Book thread about it from Barbara Tuchman's "A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century."
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:41 PM (5u1+1)

I thoroughly enjoyed that book when I was about 18, only to read how many "professional" historians shitted on it

Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:43 PM (mR6Gs)

150 Most are just having typical issues with self acceptance and these go away.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (Zzbjj)

Only if you can teach the children proper self-respect and not leave them to rot in nihilism. Which is what Progressivism does.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:43 PM (NJ9MR)

151 Excellent book.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 15, 2023 12:44 PM (Mzdiz)

152 Mental.abuse of a chikd can cause impairment.
In one of his podcasts, Lindsay talks about woke indoctrination being a form of mental abuse.
He also talks about how small children develop their brains by categorizing - you/me, grown up / kid, boy/girl, man/woman, night/day.
They can seem rigid in their thinking as they are building their neural pathways.
So these wokesters come along and intentionally mess with that. They mess with the children's mental framework of the real world.
They're intentionally causing mental impairment. Kids who don't have a logical mental picture of the real world cannot function in the real world.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 12:44 PM (2qWzw)

153 I haven't seen the trailer, but I just now looked it up.
I'll watch it.
I'm just a lay person, I've always professed to be a Christian. I suppose my life hasn't been perfect, I'm a sinner. But these days, as I am out on the street or a public place I silently pray the 23rd Psalm or another prayer, because I feel like I'm swimming in a sea of peril.
I didn't always used to do that, just on Sundays.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 12:45 PM (jTmQV)

154 Our species comes in 2 genders, male and female. That is indisputable and immutable.

For those confused about this, take or monitor Biology 101 and pay attention this time.

Finally, those who promote and those who implement through surgical mutilation are guilty of child abuse and need to suffer retribution for their despicable actions.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 15, 2023 12:46 PM (KATBx)

155 Any Moron reviews of the movie "The Jesus Revolution"?
Posted by: m at April 15, 2023 11:48 AM (Ww1lp)

It's fantastic. It is a pretty accurate recreation of things. It doesn't really preach much, but lays out what happened - as told by people who believe in Jesus. Stay for the "aftermath" bits at the end, telling you what happened after the movie ends.

I don't need to see it again. But I would gladly take anyone else who wanted to go.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:46 PM (NJ9MR)

156 At a time of crisis the clergy shut the doors and locked the flock out. This was not an example of serious leadership or of being good Shepards. The shepards became the sheep of the government.
Posted by: Cosda

My church was told they could not have people in the sanctuary, so we held our services on the lawn with no interruption.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 15, 2023 12:46 PM (UzL8x)

157 113 Or Kings of Beers kneeling to the King of Kings.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:33 PM (5u1+1

Didn't Bud used to do a Christmas ad where the Clydesdales knelt before a stable? Don't know if they ran that last year/

Posted by: Fox 2! at April 15, 2023 12:46 PM (fCn4f)

158 , only to read how many "professional" historians shitted on it

Did they shit on "The Guns of August" too?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:46 PM (5u1+1)

159 Only if you can teach the children proper self-respect and not leave them to rot in nihilism. Which is what Progressivism does.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 12:43 PM (NJ9MR)

The current environment is dreadful. kid1 pilled the boys out of public school. Had they stayed the 7yo would have been exposed to lies and filth. A neighbor showed my the picture that her daughter came home with. A group of bilological and trans men with bloody underwear, with the caption "people have periods". The trans had the side to side hideous scar. This is evil, not illness.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:47 PM (Zzbjj)

160 Before I can ally with modern liberals (not classical) against the Woke, the liberals are going to - at very minimum - have to acknowledge how their worldview gave rise to this bullshit and then tell me what they're going to change to keep it from happening again. Provided we win.

Until then, the enemy of my enemy is my enemy. I'm not letting someone who's got a history of stabbing me in the back get behind me anymore.

Posted by: McLurkerson at April 15, 2023 12:47 PM (wNDOJ)

161 Kali State Senator Scott Weiner seems to be another Dem Disaster coming to a state near you.
1) Bill to "protect" trannies that lead to exploitation of trannies and girls
2) Bill to legalize drugs including one used for date rape
3) Pushed bandages as protection against Monkey Pox
4) Amended Sex Offenders registry for statutory rape to add rape and anal sex in exception list if minors at least 14 and adult within 10 years of minor's age.
...
Is he related to Anthony Weiner?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

162 159 Pulled, not pilled.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:48 PM (Zzbjj)

163 If you're going to play I am Woman you should use this version;

https://youtu.be/vWiWZn-T8aY

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at April 15, 2023 12:49 PM (llnvq)

164 Must be Christmas time again. That's a hell of a fruitcake pictured up top.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 15, 2023 12:50 PM (VwHCD)

165 And CN- your old synagogue should probably consider joining up with the big Presbyterian church on the main drag in town./ one with Doric columns Somebody I know who goes there at times because they have a phenomenal music program and he is musician.
although a conservative person. Said that pastor welcomed a non binary kid up to the pulpit for the celebration of that fact, remarked that he didn't know if Jesus rose from the dead ( which is a pretty standard progressive view) and the church is housing illegal aliens in the basement.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2023 12:50 PM (pMFUn)

166 Scott Weiner led a tranny parade event, in all its degenerate glory recently. Go find some video of that and tell me some of those people aren't perfectly possessed like the thing in the video above. Oh, and when was this event held?
Easter Sunday.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 12:51 PM (jTmQV)

167 Btw, in my state if you work with or near kids, every 5 years you have to retake mandatory reporter training.
So the training explains all the forms of child abuse including sexual abuse. It lists the legal definitions of sexual abuse of minors.
Everything woke trans groomers do are illegal.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 12:51 PM (2qWzw)

168 "My church was told they could not have people in the sanctuary, so we held our services on the lawn with no interruption.
Posted by: Thomas Paine"
***********
That's good and I saw where mostly Protestant churches did that. We Catholics were told to go home and stream Mass.or watch on TV.

Posted by: Cosda at April 15, 2023 12:52 PM (D0cLN)

169 Oh yeah. After we had been punished some, we did get the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass in the now-defunct parish school athletic field. It was a drive-in Mass. July and August in SC. Folks sitting in A/C comfort while their cars are idling, only to get out of their cars to receive Holy Communion.

The burn spots on the grass were horrific.

I did think it was funny when it was so hot one day that the Pascal candle melted enough to fall off its base. The clergy should have interpreted that as a chastisement.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:52 PM (5u1+1)

170 Oh, yes, the pastor wanted to change any verses in hymns that had "he" or "she" but the choir rebelled.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2023 12:53 PM (Keyt1)

171 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2023 12:50 PM (pMFUn)

They would rebel at that idea. This place still posts St RBG's picture on the holidays. The church on Nassau Street is much too conservative

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:54 PM (Zzbjj)

172 Lotta trannies in the black neighborhoods in Atlanta.

Young black dude goes to prison and gets out liking being the woman in a relationship.

Nothing like a 6’5” tranny busting up a window to smash and grab some outfits.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 15, 2023 12:54 PM (R/m4+)

173 170 Oh, yes, the pastor wanted to change any verses in hymns that had "he" or "she" but the choir rebelled.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 15, 2023 12:53 PM (Keyt1)

They always want to make God in their image.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

174 They always want to make God in their image.

They want to BE God

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:56 PM (Zzbjj)

175 anyone installed a mini split ?

Posted by: REDACTED at April 15, 2023 12:56 PM (us2H3)

176 172 Lotta trannies in the black neighborhoods in Atlanta.

Young black dude goes to prison and gets out liking being the woman in a relationship.

Nothing like a 6’5” tranny busting up a window to smash and grab some outfits.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 15, 2023 12:54 PM (R/m4+)

My brother ran into one like that in Atlanta when he was serving tables back in the day. As he put it, it wasn't the purple chiffon dress he was wearing, or even his makeup, it was his 3°clock shadow...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:56 PM (ynpvh)

177 Back in the day, more than half of my classmates were somewhat churched.

The Lutheran church and the Catholic church were separated by a street. Everybody knew everybody and were civil and respected each other's traditions.

It seems that nowadays, that culture is gone.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:56 PM (5u1+1)

178 See you on the garden thread, I'm going to do some planting before the rain.

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:56 PM (Zzbjj)

179 174 They always want to make God in their image.

They want to BE God

Posted by: CN at April 15, 2023 12:56 PM (Zzbjj)

That's where it ultimately leads, yes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

180 One of the things that has puzzled me greatly is that when the covid shit began to bloom and the gov't (state and federal) told the various religions where and when they could practice said religion there was not a universal GF uttered regardless of denomination.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 15, 2023 12:57 PM (KATBx)

181 62 Who does he think he is? Carmen Miranda?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 15, 2023 12:03 PM (zZu0s)

He'll play her in the new movie.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

182 Thanks for this, K.T. The human trafficking stuff is sobering...an maddening as hell.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2023 12:58 PM (Xrfse)

183 >>>Must be Christmas time again. That's a hell of a fruitcake pictured up top.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

>Sir, we're still demanding demerits. Please hand over your card for a quick punch and you'll be on your way.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 12:58 PM (uAY3R)

184 182 Thanks for this, K.T. The human trafficking stuff is sobering...an maddening as hell.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2023 12:58 PM (Xrfse)

True Slavery.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

185 Oh Atlanta

https://tinyurl.com/yusx7as6

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 12:59 PM (ZLI7S)

186
Trans is Luciferian horseshit.
Posted by: CN

You are a Luciphobe!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2023 12:59 PM (63Dwl)

187 186
Trans is Luciferian horseshit.
Posted by: CN

You are a Luciphobe!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2023 12:59 PM (63Dwl)

I thought Charlie Brown suffered that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:00 PM (ynpvh)

188 Someone rec'd Return of the Gods by Jonathan Cahn and he has an interesting argument about ancient Assyrian/Babylonian pagan gods being ascendant in today's world.
Baal, Molech, but specially Astarte with the lgbt trans woke stuff

Should probably add Chemosh the war god

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:00 PM (2qWzw)

189 149 I will make a post on tomorrow's Book thread about it from Barbara Tuchman's "A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century."
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 15, 2023 12:41 PM (5u1+1)

I thoroughly enjoyed that book when I was about 18, only to read how many "professional" historians shitted on it
Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:43 PM (mR6Gs)

I come to view that timeframe as one of the most important in human history. Many firsts.
I found shipbuilding facinating and the evolution to Ships-O-the line and from hand to hand, boarding sea combat to broadside cannon fighting.

The evolution of land warfare is a current interest. First use cannon vs. castle in Europe. Longbow replacing the Crossbow.

Posted by: Reforger at April 15, 2023 01:00 PM (qMJbb)

190 189 ...Longbow replacing the Crossbow.

Posted by: Reforger at April 15, 2023 01:00 PM (qMJbb)

Uh-oh. Somebody trying to start somethin'

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:02 PM (ynpvh)

191 I'm tempted to say what I'd like to see happen to miscreant pols like Newsom and Wiener but it wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2023 01:03 PM (Xrfse)

192 188 Someone rec'd Return of the Gods by Jonathan Cahn and he has an interesting argument about ancient Assyrian/Babylonian pagan gods being ascendant in today's world.
Baal, Molech, but specially Astarte with the lgbt trans woke stuff

Should probably add Chemosh the war god

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:00 PM (2qWzw)

Would say that abortion appeals to the Aztec god Huitzilopochtli.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:03 PM (ynpvh)

193 Trans is Luciferian horseshit.
Posted by: CN

You are a Luciphobe!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

"Luciphobe ! I'm home !"

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 01:04 PM (T4tVD)

194 The simple answer is that these people are insane, being urged in their insanity by people in power and authority whose goal is the destruction of Western civilization and the Judeo/Christian ethos.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at April 15, 2023 01:04 PM (XMwZJ)

195 Reforger @ 189-
Longbow vs crossbow. Uh-oh.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2023 01:04 PM (4svuj)

196 191 I'm tempted to say what I'd like to see happen to miscreant pols like Newsom and Wiener but it wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2023 01:03 PM (Xrfse)

They can be two in the human centipede of shitty dems.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

197 Scott Weiner led a tranny parade event, in all its degenerate glory recently. Go find some video of that and tell me some of those people aren't perfectly possessed like the thing in the video above. Oh, and when was this event held?
Easter Sunday.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 12:51 PM (jTmQV)

Yep…. Everything I’ve read about that guy Weiner makes me believe he’s demon possessed. Why wouldn’t he wanna hang out with other demons?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 15, 2023 01:04 PM (xT8gx)

198 I believe that many CEOS and other key people--as well as most people who run the media, from newspapers to cable networks to social media--are not just doing the bidding of the CIA, the FBI and other LEO/spook organizations--but ARE actual agents. I've long believed this.

But now I'm starting to think that many Senators, congressmen and judges are AGENTS as well
Posted by: JoeF. at April 15, 2023 12:32 PM (mR6Gs)

Why, it's almost as if the shadow government of our so-called intelligence community isn't just influencing and coercing those in powerful positions throughout society, they actually ARE, indeed, those in power.

Almost

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:05 PM (5aiaB)

199 >>Longbow replacing the Crossbow.

You son of a ....

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:05 PM (ZLI7S)

200
anyone installed a mini split ?
Posted by: REDACTED

Is that what they're calling a mangina now?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 15, 2023 01:05 PM (63Dwl)

201 By the way, if you try to tell me that isn't Nipsey Russell in the top pic, I won't believe you. I shant believe you. I shant not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:06 PM (5aiaB)

202 Now? It's the opposite.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 12:35 PM (jTmQV)

Not really. Progressivism is the idea that because "science" and technology are advancing, they will always advance. And, the next step, constantly advancing science means we're constantly evolving to be better. So, humanity will "progress" - in science, technology, and humanity - until it reaches a utopia.

Ultimately, it's always been about reaching God and demanding (at minimum) equal time on the throne. if not simply pitching Him down and taking over. It's about "reason" overcoming faith and doing it in.

But, it has also been very careful its whole existence to insist it is NOT a religion, and should therefore be propagated through all the institutions where America desired to keep out sectarianism. Hence, the push for "freedom from religion" was really evangelism for the religion of self and science.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:06 PM (NJ9MR)

203 I guess that's a can of worms I can't put the monkeys back into...
What?

Posted by: Reforger at April 15, 2023 01:07 PM (qMJbb)

204 201 By the way, if you try to tell me that isn't Nipsey Russell in the top pic, I won't believe you. I shant believe you. I shant not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:06 PM (5aiaB)

Isn't he the one who said the Devil made him do it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:08 PM (ynpvh)

205 180 One of the things that has puzzled me greatly is that when the covid shit began to bloom and the gov't (state and federal) told the various religions where and when they could practice said religion there was not a universal GF uttered regardless of denomination.
Posted by: irongrampa

I think it's partly because of something the two Orthodox priests talk about in the first ep of Lord of Spirits podcasts.

In this modern world, we are all, no matter how religious, weare all materialist by habit.
So I think a physical hyped up threat like covid had everyone, including clergy, doing the "sensible" materialist thing and bowing to "science"

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:08 PM (2qWzw)

206 205 with a few valiant exceptions

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:08 PM (2qWzw)

207 Nipsey Russell > Nipsey Hussle

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 15, 2023 01:09 PM (R/m4+)

208 I wonder how many young girls who've gone missing without a trace will be herded into in the streets of South LA tonight, to be sold for chump change?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2023 01:09 PM (Xrfse)

209 And they don't admit that the belief that we are always progressing is a purely religious belief, not an objective one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2023 01:10 PM (e7n2t)

210 Every knee will bow and every mouth confess Jesus is Lord.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2023 01:10 PM (4svuj)

211 208 I wonder how many young girls who've gone missing without a trace will be herded into in the streets of South LA tonight, to be sold for chump change?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 15, 2023 01:09 PM (Xrfse)

From that article, plenty.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

212 They're intentionally causing mental impairment.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 12:44 PM (2qWzw)

But they call it "freedom". Orwell got it right again.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:10 PM (NJ9MR)

213 Would say that abortion appeals to the Aztec god Huitzilopochtli.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

It's an interesting, persuasive book.
A bit repetitive in style though.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:11 PM (2qWzw)

214 Flip Wilson.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2023 01:11 PM (4svuj)

215 I'm all for there being a Coalition of the Normies, been saying such for a while now. And, yeah, the religious aspects of what's going on are definitely not lost on me. I hold back the deepest cuts because, per the couple of guys up top, it involves deconstructing religious tropes as only a heavily Ayn Rand-influenced agnostic can, which tends to make religious people uncomfortable and cause unnecessary dissension.

Posted by: CppThis at April 15, 2023 01:11 PM (PZvjL)

216
So a two foot long large-mouth bass swims up to where I'm fishing yesterday and I drop a big old night crawler right in front of him. Ignored. Then I see a slightly smaller bass right behind him. Damn. Spawning season. It's like fish Pon Farr.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 15, 2023 01:13 PM (enJYY)

217 >>So I think a physical hyped up threat like covid had everyone, including clergy, doing the "sensible" materialist thing and bowing to "science"

A judge in Clownafornia just the other day fined a church $1.2 million for holding services during the lockdown. The church is appealing.

One of the major themes of the lockdown asshoes was protecting those around you. It was an evil but smart strategy particularly for those who do care about others. Isolation is a powerful thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:13 PM (ZLI7S)

218 Heh, saw a meme.
Hate Speech to the left is people they Hate having Speech.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:13 PM (ynpvh)

219 Progressivism has come to mean, among other things: Rejection of religion, morality and ethics, embrace of nihilism, awarding high school diplomas to all, regardless of academic achievement, promotion of child abuse, and of course, communism in its many forms.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, a literal ray of sunshine at April 15, 2023 01:13 PM (jTmQV)

220 It's Jackie Robinson day in baseball - I've already heard several times from MLB talking heads/announcers that we have so much further to go. What do you think they mean by that specifically, like what am I supposed to do?

Posted by: jhawk90 at April 15, 2023 01:14 PM (tkXA0)

221 When the church that I was a member of at the time (and whose pastor I mistakenly thought was a serious and sensible spiritual shepherd) refused to re-open for in person services soon after Easter 2020 (even telling me “we’ll reevaluate at the end of the year”

I wasn’t disillusioned… I was angry (I’d like to think a righteous indignation… probably not) and told him to revoke my membership I’m going elsewhere. And I found a church that was having services… wasn’t easy to find, but I did. I’m still annoyed with that guy…. He was stealing all of Fauci’s lines/lies (same thing)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 15, 2023 01:14 PM (xT8gx)

222 I give the Roman church credit (at least in our area) for fighting back against rhe Covid bullshit more than of the protestant churches did.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 15, 2023 01:15 PM (e7n2t)

223 217 >>So I think a physical hyped up threat like covid had everyone, including clergy, doing the "sensible" materialist thing and bowing to "science"

A judge in Clownafornia just the other day fined a church $1.2 million for holding services during the lockdown. The church is appealing.

One of the major themes of the lockdown asshoes was protecting those around you. It was an evil but smart strategy particularly for those who do care about others. Isolation is a powerful thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:13 PM (ZLI7S)

In San Diego, Churches were closed, Strip clubs were open.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:15 PM (ynpvh)

224 anyone installed a mini split ?
Posted by: REDACTED at April 15, 2023 12:56 PM (us2H3)

Given the topic being bashed about here, can I say, "Phrasing?"

(Sounds like a euphemism for boy-to-girl surgery: "install a mini-split".)

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:15 PM (NJ9MR)

225 >>>Isn't he the one who said the Devil made him do it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

>Wasn't that Flip Wilson? Geraldine? One of the funniest MFs of my twisted youth.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 15, 2023 01:15 PM (uAY3R)

226 Pastor John McArthur in California made goobernor eat crow. And he and his church been attacked ever since.

Posted by: Eromero at April 15, 2023 01:16 PM (4svuj)

227 By the way, if you try to tell me that isn't Nipsey Russell in the top pic, I won't believe you. I shant believe you. I shant not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:06 PM (5aiaB)

Isn't he the one who said the Devil made him do it?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:08 PM (ynpvh)

I think that was Flip Wilson? Who also had a trannie character, named Geraldine, I think.

But I'm prolly rayciss for knowing that.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:16 PM (5aiaB)

228 >>In San Diego, Churches were closed, Strip clubs were open.

Gyms were closed but bars were opened around here.

Cause science!

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:16 PM (ZLI7S)

229 there was not a universal GF uttered regardless of denomination.
Posted by: irongrampa at April 15, 2023 12:57 PM (KATBx)

After the very first few weeks there certainly was. John MacArthur's church in CA said "I don't think so" and started holding services again. They had to sue the gov't over the fines levied and such. There were others, too, that started defying the State.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:17 PM (NJ9MR)

230 228 >>In San Diego, Churches were closed, Strip clubs were open.

Gyms were closed but bars were opened around here.

Cause science!

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:16 PM (ZLI7S)

In Michigan, churches were closed, but an BDSM shop around the corner from the Capitol was open. Gee, I guess the state congressmen needed their fix during COVID...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

231 "A Distant Mirror" Picardy, Coucy, Nicopolis. Check. A great book.

Posted by: mrp at April 15, 2023 01:21 PM (rj6Yv)

232 It's Jackie Robinson day in baseball - I've already heard several times from MLB talking heads/announcers that we have so much further to go. What do you think they mean by that specifically, like what am I supposed to do?
Posted by: jhawk90 at April 15, 2023 01:14 PM (tkXA0)

If I understand modern reparations, and I don't, I think that means all black players are allowed to start on second base. And no more of this three strikes and you're out nonsense.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:22 PM (5aiaB)

233 OT: found out today that urchin is an old word for hedgehog, so sea urchins are sea hedgehogs. Makes sense. Now street urchins...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

234 And no more of this three strikes and you're out nonsense.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:22 PM (5aiaB)

Yeah, positive I've been told all the Three Strikes laws were racist.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (NJ9MR)

235 The CEO of AB is getting pummeled on Twitter.

Apparently boycotts from the right actually do work.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (ZLI7S)

236 229 After the very first few weeks there certainly was. John MacArthur's church in CA said "I don't think so" and started holding services again. They had to sue the gov't over the fines levied and such. There were others, too, that started defying the State.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:17 PM (NJ9MR)

It wasn't universal though, which was his point. A few scattered outliers who for the most part got defeated in detail. Just about every major religion has some sort of governing body in the US; imagine how different it would have been if they had all come to an accord to stay open. Every church, every mosque, every synagogue; can't arrest them all.

Posted by: CppThis at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (PZvjL)

237 Now street urchins...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

Back in the day they were very defensive and had plenty of sharp pointy objects with which to be defensive.

Adult urchins... Vmom, you still here?

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:24 PM (NJ9MR)

238 And no more of this three strikes and you're out nonsense.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:22 PM (5aiaB)

Yeah, positive I've been told all the Three Strikes laws were racist.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (NJ9MR)

In modern prosecutorial baseball, if anyone with two balls on him declares himself a girl, he walks.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:25 PM (5aiaB)

239 Posted by: CppThis at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (PZvjL)

With that I will concur.
And I think the point about being immersed in materialism (though I would word it "corrupted by Progressivism") and believing the authorities when they said it was "deadly" is correct, too.

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:26 PM (NJ9MR)

240 235 The CEO of AB is getting pummeled on Twitter.

Apparently boycotts from the right actually do work.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (ZLI7S)

Collectivists are a paper tiger, easy to knock down if the other side makes even a half-hearted effort to do so. Just requires a bit of organization--something The Right has consistently been poor at.

Posted by: CppThis at April 15, 2023 01:26 PM (PZvjL)

241 Lol

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:26 PM (2qWzw)

242 In modern prosecutorial baseball, if anyone with two balls on him declares himself a girl, he walks.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:25 PM (5aiaB)

HAH!

Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:27 PM (NJ9MR)

243 238 And no more of this three strikes and you're out nonsense.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:22 PM (5aiaB)

Yeah, positive I've been told all the Three Strikes laws were racist.
Posted by: GWB at April 15, 2023 01:23 PM (NJ9MR)

In modern prosecutorial baseball, if anyone with two balls on him declares himself a girl, he walks.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 15, 2023 01:25 PM (5aiaB)

Besides, you don't know if the baseball's gender was ball or strike at that point; nobody asked it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

244 I also enjoyed Tuchman's "The First Salute".

Posted by: mrp at April 15, 2023 01:27 PM (rj6Yv)

245 later haters

The Elvis wants a walk.

https://tinyurl.com/4bf7uuzd

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2023 01:29 PM (ZLI7S)

246 NOOD Gardening

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

247 Adult urchins... Vmom, you still here?
Posted by: GWB

I never pictured Vmom as an urchin.....

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 01:31 PM (T4tVD)

248 GARDEN NOOD IS BLOOMING

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 01:32 PM (xhxe8)

249 247 Adult urchins... Vmom, you still here?
Posted by: GWB

I never pictured Vmom as an urchin.....

Posted by: JT at April 15, 2023 01:31 PM (T4tVD)

Some musings online about street urchins...some say that term was also used for various mischevious spirits, so the street variety were kids.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 15, 2023 01:34 PM (ynpvh)

250 I definitely see the parallels to gnosticism. Like the gnostics, the woke believe that they are the torchbearers of a secret truth, and that everything outside of their sacred dogmas is wrong and evil. The Gnostics believed that a false god, the Demiurge, had usurped the true God and enslaved humanity with mortal existence.

These kinds of fantasies are designed to appeal to society's losers, who have a desire to be important in some way, and to give them a pretense of morality to stand upon so that they can condemn the society that rejected them.

Rather than a false god, Wokism holds Western Civilization to be the great usurper and fraud of the world, basically accusing it of having stolen everybody else's wealth and victories. As such, everything it has abhorred must be celebrated, and everything it has praised must be cast down.

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at April 15, 2023 01:39 PM (MIb2C)

251 For the record I can understand the actual, literal two weeks of the initial Covid scare. Several European health systems crashed and nobody really knew what was going on. Closing the gates for just a bit made a good bit of sense. But then the real picture began to emerge and there absolutely should have been more pushback to state insanity at that point, which seemed to get more extreme as the actual virus threat got more mild.

Posted by: CppThis at April 15, 2023 01:43 PM (PZvjL)

252 Sounds like LA could use a Travis Bickel.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 15, 2023 01:49 PM (oWBc3)

253 Test

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 15, 2023 01:52 PM (rlL+P)

254 253 Test
***
Passed!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:54 PM (2qWzw)

255 Vmkm don't test too much, it leads to bigger problems
Trust me

Posted by: Skip at April 15, 2023 02:00 PM (xhxe8)

256 Re: I am Woman

There's a version of I'm a Woman (W-O-M-A-N) from the old Cher show with Raquel Welch that used to be on the Tube of Yews. Lost to a copyright claim.

Both undressed by Bob Macky.

Yowzers

Posted by: Fox 2! at April 15, 2023 02:05 PM (fCn4f)

257 Re the references to Covid, it was in fact a test, and we failed spectacularly. The Regime saw it could oppress with impunity, and the subsequent trans psychosis simply is forcing others to mouth blatant untruths to neuter them. This cannot end well, and that very well may be the intent.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 15, 2023 02:06 PM (KSNKu)

258 So I think a physical hyped up threat like covid had everyone, including clergy, doing the "sensible" materialist thing and bowing to "science"
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 15, 2023 01:08 PM (2qWzw)

206

At least locally (may have been the holding of the NCCB, not just the local bishop), the example offered was that the churches were shutdown for the 1918 Spanish flu. After a couple of weeks, maybe a month, that example should have been disproven

Posted by: Fox 2! at April 15, 2023 02:15 PM (fCn4f)

259
There's a version of I'm a Woman (W-O-M-A-N) from the old Cher show with Raquel Welch that used to be on the Tube of Yews. Lost to a copyright claim.

Both undressed by Bob Macky.

Yowzers
Posted by: Fox 2! at April 15, 2023 02:05 PM (fCn4f)

It's still on Farcebook. heh.

https://tinyurl.com/yufu4b9a

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at April 15, 2023 02:38 PM (Zvtjl)

260 I will admit I have been out of the loop this past week or so- work stuff. What did the leaked documents say? I saw something referring to Israel, but not much explaining it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 15, 2023 02:40 PM (zZu0s)

261 Meh, it's an ancient dogma of Energy in which everything and everyone is a container of Energy. It's just Shamanism, where Energy takes forms but they are just temporary forms. That means nothing is truly individual or immortal as anything individual. 'God' is just a term for Energy. Reified, there is no such thing as any individual Thing. A weed is a bug is a hamster is a goat is a human. This idea emanates as far as I've been able to tell from ancient Central Asia, and erupts from time to time in immensely destructive ways. This dogma purports sexual dimorphism is unnatural.

Posted by: LenNeal at April 15, 2023 03:25 PM (HIXWh)

262 I thought that was Chuck Berry for a second.

Posted by: stv at April 15, 2023 04:27 PM (/dqoc)

263 BOOKZZZ!!!

Btw I got an error that my ip is banned
Posting via cell no wifi

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 16, 2023 09:07 AM (iFP8K)

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