The Parting of the Waters

Not specified if those are Children of Israel down there
Update: Guess not. They're probably Japanese.

Passover and Easter have put me into a reflective mood. The story of Moses and the Parting of the Waters so that the Children of Israel could escape from the Egyptian army recounts a miracle. Here in the West, especially in parts of California, considerable flooding has already taken place this year. A cool spring with gradual snow melt would be like a miracle to a lot of people looking at the amount of snow in the mountains.

Flooding in California may or may not be accompanied by rain

Back in March, Steven Hayward took out his drone to record flooding along the Salinas river. The government was still classifying the area as stricken by "drought". Residents and farmers were under drought rules for water use.

Meanwhile, I'm living temporarily near the Salinas River, which is normally a modest stream even in the winter months. It reached flood stage on Friday and Saturday, requiring the evacuation of several small towns along its route. Yesterday between storms I dusted off my drone and ventured up to San Ardo (seen in the last segment of this video), which was underwater on Saturday. The river was down considerably from its peak just 24 hours before, and may well reach flood stage again tomorrow from the looks of things.

More disturbingly, even since then, in some areas battling flooding farmers uphill from lowland flood zones are still being charged triple "drought rates" to pump water onto their land -- as officials monitor how much extra water they must release from reservoirs every day to maintain room for future spring and summer snow melt. That is when some really substantial additional flooding may occur.

Farmers should be paid to pump water onto their land right now! In addition to easing flooding, it also recharges the aquifers!

In some of these foothill areas, wells have gone dry in recent years due to lowered groundwater levels.

Parts of the community plans for easing flooding include farmers diverting water from waterways and canals, and now we learn that the government charges them extra for helping!

The government is not our friend. Most of it.

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Government Communications

What makes the difference between useful and stupid communications from government?

Here's some mostly useful emergency information put together by one county.

A matter of necessity, low on bureaucracy it seems. They are asking for community input, and seem to mean it.

March 9 story from Government Radio is interesting, but its author is not an employee of the station. Storm could 'push the limits' of San Joaquin Valley's flood response systems. That was an underestimation, but the background information is interesting.

If the coming storm hits as predicted starting late Thursday, San Joaquin Valley flooding hot spots - and some new ones thanks to subsidence - could be swamped.
It's not because reservoirs above the valley floor are full. The culprits are likely to be much the smaller and typically dry "uncontrolled streams" threaded throughout the foothills.
Immediate uneasiness
The "biggest and most immediate uneasiness" are foothill creeks, the Kings River Water Association wrote in an alert put out on Tuesday about anticipated flooding.
Pine Flat Reservoir and other upstream reservoirs, including Wishon and Courtright, have more than 600,000 acre-feet of available space and can handle surges from the upper Sierra Nevada.
"Mill Creek and the other foothill streams that enter the river downstream from Pine Flat Dam are our biggest concern right now," Steve Haugen, executive director of the Kings River Water Association wrote in the alert. "There is no way to control or store the flows in those streams."

And why were planned smaller reservoirs on those streams never built? Hmmmm?

The Sheriffs and emergency services departments for Fresno, Kings and Tulare counties are all on watch and the Kings River Conservation District, responsible for flood protection on the forks of the lower Kings River, has been checking its levees, according to the alert.
A new lake bottom
In southern Kings County, all eyes are on Deer Creek and the White River, according to Jack Mitchell, head of the Deer Creek Flood Control District.
"We have equipment on call and are just waiting to see," Mitchell said. "I think this is gonna be a 100-year flood with how much snow there is. If this storm melts it up to 8,000 feet, we're gonna get hit."
The small town of Alpaugh should be OK, he said. Land to the north and east, however, could be flooded for the first time thanks to groundwater overpumping that has sunk the land, he added.

That land to the north and east has flooded now. Blame has been deflected from the change in elevation of the land to the biggest farm operation in the region, Boswell, which owns much of the lake bottom land. Anger is ramping up since Boswell planted tomatoes on some higher ground. They have flooded part of their land and are building a berm along with the County around an area where sewage sludge from LA County has been spread. It will be flooded along with other land that is used for edible crops, without allowing the flood waters to mix. Sounds a little "iffy" to me.

I'm not sure that Alpaugh is going to be safe from flooding through the summer. It used to be known as "Pig Island". At some point in history, before Tulare Lake was drained, people put pigs on the island. They fed themselves with vegetation and fresh water mussels. Then the owners of the hogs would come and retrieve them.

Alpaugh is one of the most depressing places you would ever want to visit. Lots of bars and very small churches, not much else. There was a big brouhaha over arsenic in the drinking water years ago. The local school was decertified. Also a few years ago, some of the residents went back to Arkansas, got off meth and turned their lives around.

There may have been more prosperous residents that I didn't see. Met a guy once who kept a bunch of exotic dogs who liked to chase rabbits in an outlying area.

Some of the farms to the north and east are going concerns, though. Or were. They're under water right now. I wouldn't be surprised if the elevation of Alpaugh has also decreased.

Larsen said farmers throughout the area have been preparing to take water and spread it over as much ground as possible to prevent flooding and recharge the aquifer.
"We have crews on standby around the clock and pumps positioned to move water," he said.
Larsen, who is also General Manager of the Greater Kaweah Groundwater Sustainability Agency, acknowledged he was a little excited to finally have water to put back into the aquifer after three punishing years of drought.

Charge those farmers extra "drought rates" for putting water on their fields!

We have some conflicting priorities here. This is the message on repeat from the California Water Board, which does not seem to note the atmospheric rivers hitting the state during February:

California and #water conservation: in Feb. Californians used 18% less water than was used in Feb. 2020. In fact, since 2021 CA has saved 600,000 acre ft. of water!
Every drop counts: https://t.co/qsGEjpvrCK pic.twitter.com/UJuPvbAOQM
— State Water Board (@CaWaterBoards) April 5, 2023

Of course, we all need to know that the California Water Board is hiring a Racial Equity Program Manager. Wonder if that person will improve the Twitter messaging of the organization?

This, from the CA EPA, seems more useful.

Key storm-cleanup resources for #Tulare County residents:
➡️ #HouseholdHazardousWaste (HHW) factsheets: English, https://t.co/Cg4chXiqbm; español, https://t.co/jgveRMd43U
➡️ Area HHW facilities: https://t.co/d7ZqUhpBmv
➡️ Find Regulated HAZMAT facilities: https://t.co/PxR2pponZk pic.twitter.com/GGyvxSbQna
— California EPA (@CaliforniaEPA) April 6, 2023

Gavin Newsom, with news of two-day-old federal funding for water project at the Salton Sea and elsewhere (for which other people are responsible).

Fun to read the responses.

Groundwater captured in LA County. Again, fun to read the responses. Why report in gallons instead of acre feet?

Wow.👀 @LADWP announces 25 billion gallons (!) of storm water captured this winter for future use. Groundwater recharge is happening in both rural AND urban areas. Excited that @CA_DWR & @CaWaterBoards are supporting many more of these projects.💧💧💧 https://t.co/J5wO14lPO4 pic.twitter.com/ipN0PiXqce
— Wade Crowfoot (@WadeCrowfoot) April 4, 2023

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Non-governmental sources of information

Much of the Central Valley of California was once covered with marshland at least part of the year. An outlet developed near Monterey, leaving a deep canyon there. At one time it was possible to go by boat from San Francisco to Visalia or Porterville in wet years.

After Bakersfield was first settled, it was moved because too many people got sick and died from the mosquito-infested marshes. Bakersfield is on the Kern River.

Several rivers and streams emptied into Tulare Lake, the largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi until it was drained for farming. It's coming back this year, as it has periodically.

This guy has put together a useful flood tracker for the Tulare Lake Basin flooding.

Announcing the release of "Tulare Lake Flood Explorer" an interactive map with multiple layers of information.
Access it here https://t.co/ac1Z7YiMSe #2023TulareFlood #CaFlood @SJVWater #cawater #cawx #farm #agriculture #TulareLake #SJV #Californiastorm #CAwx #CaliforniaStorm pic.twitter.com/9sWOt1VC9P
— Shubo Biswas (@ShuboBiswas) April 3, 2023

⚠️ Avoid contact with floodwater!

Wear rubber gloves & rubber boots if you must touch floodwater. Tip: protect open cuts and wounds with waterproof bandages.

Stay safe, CA! Follow @Cal_OES for more.#ListosCalifornia pic.twitter.com/xYSuQWS6YY
— Listos California (@ListosCA) March 29, 2023

Reedly Beach (near where VDH lives), showing summer flooding near the Kings River during a previous flood year

Reedley city officials say Reedley Beach will likely remain closed throughout the summer as flooding is expected to continue. pic.twitter.com/5daIXKBd23
— Ben Morris (@BenMorrisNews) April 7, 2023

This is the Magna Carta, which preserved fishing and navigation rights for the people of England. There's a direct line between this document and the Public Trust Doctrine that preserves the public's right to #cawater. Amazing ! pic.twitter.com/Weiq8W89it
— WatergrlJD (she/her) (@watergrlJD) April 7, 2023

Water rights are a big, big deal in the West.

Friends who used to live in Corcoran returned to drive down a water-covered road west of town to photograph the return of Tulare Lake. Coast Range is in the distance.

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Music

Merle Haggard, Sing me back home

Come, Thou Fount of Every Blessing

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Hope you have a lovely Passover/Easter weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, April 1, Newsom Nightmares

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:28 AM

Comments

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1 Happy Easter weekend, KT. I nooded.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 08, 2023 11:30 AM (ju2Fy)

2 We need to restore the Bill of Rights. I read a lot of Brit stuff demanding the MAgna Carta be followed.

Posted by: CN at April 08, 2023 11:31 AM (Zzbjj)

3 KT nood.
Posted by: olddog in mo

WOO-WOO !

Posted by: JT at April 08, 2023 11:31 AM (T4tVD)

4 Good morning KT
Hope everyone having a pleasant Easter weekend

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2023 11:33 AM (xhxe8)

5 Forget the people, how are the Snail Darters doing?

Posted by: California Environmentalists at April 08, 2023 11:33 AM (PiwSw)

6 Howdy, KT!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 11:33 AM (u73oe)

7 Okay, I am looking at the photo. HOW DO YOU CLEAR SNOW THAT DEEP AND CREATE A LANE LIKE THAT? WHAT IS USED?????

Posted by: Close The Fed at April 08, 2023 11:38 AM (LeNk3)

8 I worked in gov emergency management/response for 30+. We did a great job of communicating to citizens in my experience. However, I did get called up a few times to explain basic EM stuff to bureaucrats when they thought we communicated too much. And they almost NEVER participated during training and exercises, but they sure liked to show up in the actual emergency and start ordering us around and get on camera.

Posted by: Hazchic at April 08, 2023 11:38 AM (eIFmm)

9 I remember Sonny Bono, before he had that run in with that tree, was trying to save the Salton Sea.
Don’t know what happened with his efforts.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 08, 2023 11:38 AM (R/m4+)

10 I'm sure California's fine state government will figure out how to quickly dump all of that extra water into the ocean so it's not troubling anyone who desperately needs water for irrigation later.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 08, 2023 11:40 AM (nRMeC)

11 Water rights have always been an issue of concern in my experience. "rights" in these lawless days are subjective.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 08, 2023 11:42 AM (Nx1bw)

12 When I think of Californica, this is the song I think of, not Merle Haggard or anyone else.

I know these guys are pricks, but this song was always moving and profoundly sad, even before I came to believe the place was permanently corrupted and cursed:

https://tinyurl.com/3sfff76d

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 11:43 AM (5aiaB)

13 Texas is also in a drought. Mainly because a lack or rain over several years coupled with a population boom equals low reservoirs. Of course, Texas runs about a 10 year drought cycle from my personal observations... **grain of salt**🧂

Posted by: lin-duh at April 08, 2023 11:44 AM (UUBmN)

14 I remember Sonny Bono, before he had that run in with that tree, was trying to save the Salton Sea.
Don’t know what happened with his efforts.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 08, 2023 11:38 AM (R/m4+)

It didn't work.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 11:44 AM (5aiaB)

15 Blessings Hordelings

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at April 08, 2023 11:44 AM (Nx1bw)

16 7 Okay, I am looking at the photo. HOW DO YOU CLEAR SNOW THAT DEEP AND CREATE A LANE LIKE THAT? WHAT IS USED?????

Posted by: Close The Fed at April 08, 2023 11:38 AM (LeNk3)

An industrial sized snow blower with very tall drift cutters attached to the front. Something like featured in this video at the 6 second mark: https://youtu.be/EAKRsuh_AOU

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at April 08, 2023 11:45 AM (nRMeC)

17 I'm betting this summer there will be talk of a drought in California.

Because of course there'll be one.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2023 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)

18 Merle the outlaw moved my heart.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 08, 2023 11:46 AM (eGTCV)

19 That place looks just like Alaska when we were stationed there. You don't record snow like that in inches, you talk about how many FEET of snow you got last night.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2023 11:46 AM (ncXxy)

20 When I think of Californica, this is the song I think of, not Merle Haggard or anyone else.

I know these guys are pricks, but this song was always moving and profoundly sad, even before I came to believe the place was permanently corrupted and cursed:

https://tinyurl.com/3sfff76d
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 11:43 AM (5aiaB)

And now that I listen to it, these idiots didn't even realize, they'd properly described the rot, but then blamed it on the religious.

I guess they were right, except this particular "religion" doesn't worship God.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 11:46 AM (5aiaB)

21 And now that I listen to it, these idiots didn't even realize, they'd properly described the rot, but then blamed it on the religious.

I guess they were right, except this particular "religion" doesn't worship God.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 11:46 AM (5aiaB)

Responding to my own comments... hmmm...

They ARE the rot. People like Henley. They caused it, they perpetuate it, they export it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 11:47 AM (5aiaB)

22 All the people who explained that California was now in a permadrought due to global warming have gone vewy, vewy quiet.

In bad snow years, the Oregon Global Warming Commission puts up a statement on its web page saying that Mount Hood will soon be snow-free in the winter.

In good snow years (like this one), they quietly remove the statement.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2023 11:48 AM (2tUFv)

23 Forget the people, how are the Snail Darters doing?
Posted by: California Env

They've all be washed out to sea.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 08, 2023 11:49 AM (pTC3n)

24 King County (vs Kings County in New York) may want to put the pointer to rhe Spanish version of their damage reporting form .... in Spanish.

Posted by: Go Jaspers! at April 08, 2023 11:50 AM (vpT5O)

25 Good morning, everybody!

Posted by: KT at April 08, 2023 11:50 AM (rrtZS)

26 The entire Central Valley area of CA was once a vast inland sea, from Chico/Redding down to Mexico.
Chicago was once under a glacier a mile deep.
The scablands of Washington state are the result of a sudden and massive flood.
Or, so I've read.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 11:51 AM (jTmQV)

27 How can the rainbow Christians worship a god (small g used deliberately) who is no different than them or greater than them, or transcendent or holy, and in fact depends on their approval?
Off topic I know.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 08, 2023 11:52 AM (eGTCV)

28 I imagine all the negatives associated with the record snows are PDT's fault too.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2023 11:53 AM (qoGsy)

29 Daughter lives near Monterey and shared photos of the area around Moss Landing. It's halfway between Santa Cruz and Monterey. Pretty messed up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2023 11:53 AM (Q4IgG)

30 Something that is rarely mentioned: The snow in the Sierras is very, very wet snow . It has a very high water content.
It isn't 'fluffy' at all (we used to call it Sierra Cement).
That's a whole lot of water above Tahoe and it'll flow through Sacramento, which is only 89ft above sea level (deep water port when we lived there). The pols might get a surprise this year!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 08, 2023 11:53 AM (pTC3n)

31 Dear Grumpy,

Thank you very much!
CTF

An industrial sized snow blower with very tall drift cutters attached to the front. Something like featured in this video at the 6 second mark: https://youtu.be/EAKRsuh_AOU

Posted by: Close The Fed at April 08, 2023 11:53 AM (LeNk3)

32 All the people who explained that California was now in a permadrought due to global warming have gone vewy, vewy quiet.

In bad snow years, the Oregon Global Warming Commission puts up a statement on its web page saying that Mount Hood will soon be snow-free in the winter.

In good snow years (like this one), they quietly remove the statement.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2023 11:48 AM

Just like they had to remove the signs at Glacier National park last year that read....all glaciers will be gone by 2020 due to global warming.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2023 11:54 AM (ncXxy)

33 Up North of Beil AFB is the dredge rig they used on the Sacramento river for years back in the day. Not sure if was for mining or river maintenance. Quite the site to behold it is.

Cali's drought has been multiplied by the delta smelt lawsuit. They're releasing a shit ton of water trying to get the salinity in the stockton delta down so, as they say, help the smelt. This drought is over seal food.

It'll be nice this summer to get the boat out onto Lake Oroville. Hasn't been worth the effort in a couple of years.
If they don't drain it for some stupid reason.

Posted by: Reforger at April 08, 2023 11:56 AM (uN+Ja)

34 Missoula Fllods:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Missoula_floods

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 08, 2023 11:56 AM (u7leW)

35 Blessings Hordelings

Posted by: AmericanKestrel

Thanks !

(and we didn't even sneeze !)

Posted by: JT at April 08, 2023 11:57 AM (T4tVD)

36 Water rights are a big, big deal in the West.

The secretary of state of Oregon put out a report a few months ago saying that the basic law establishing water rights in Oregon (passed in 1909) is invalid, because Oregon was a racist state in 1909.

Therefore, all current water rights in Oregon are racist, and are also invalid.

The point, of course, is to take away the water rights from the current rights-holders, and redistribute them to more politically favored people, using DEI and similar methods.

Hilariously, the report said that the 1909 law established water rights for "the new state". The State of Oregon was fifty years old in 1909 - the establishment date is right on the state flag, but the people putting together the report had apparently never seen the state flag.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2023 11:58 AM (2tUFv)

37 Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it,
prone to leave the God I love;
here’s my heart; O take and seal it;
seal it for thy courts above.

Thanks KT. One of, if not my favorite hymn.
A different version by David Crowder from my soothe the angry Monkey playlist

https://tinyurl.com/msyddx7r

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Free Jacob Chansley at April 08, 2023 11:59 AM (Wb8zJ)

38 It's funny, we were briefly talking about earworms earlier, and I realized just now I'd made my own.

Bye bye Eagles, you soulless bastards.

I'm listening to Television, Marquee Moon. One of those bands I "discovered" after I get sick and tired of corporate rock.

Tom Verlaine was a genius on the guitar. Just died a couple months ago. He and others like him are my earworm cure.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 11:59 AM (5aiaB)

39 At my place in upstate SC right now...dogwoods blooming, rain blowing sideways, 41 w/a windchill of 33, glorious spring.

Posted by: BignJames at April 08, 2023 12:01 PM (AwYPR)

40 the roaring river is my favorite river in CA

it's probably roaring now

Posted by: REDACTED at April 08, 2023 12:02 PM (us2H3)

41
(and we didn't even sneeze !)
Posted by: JT

Speak for yourself you moron (in good standing!) The desert is yellow and I'm only able to type because I'm living on antihistamines!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 08, 2023 12:02 PM (pTC3n)

42 How can the rainbow Christians worship a god (small g used deliberately) who is no different than them or greater than them, or transcendent or holy, and in fact depends on their approval?
Off topic I know.
Posted by: N. Lurker at April 08, 2023 11:52 AM (eGTCV)

You really answered your own question. What do they worship? The self.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 12:02 PM (5aiaB)

43 trannys don't float

Posted by: REDACTED at April 08, 2023 12:03 PM (us2H3)

44 Top pic is very cool. No pun intended.

It's amazing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 12:03 PM (zZu0s)

45 Oklahoma will probably have another dry summer this year. Anyway that's what the pattern looks like now.

I could also be wrong. The month of May will tell the tale.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2023 12:03 PM (BdMk6)

46 Lack of water is not something we worry about in the N.O. area, not until the Mississippi changes course, of course.

Posted by: Javems at April 08, 2023 12:04 PM (xgBZ9)

47 Forget the people, how are the Snail Darters doing?

Posted by: California Environmentalists

"They're being slaughtered by the Northern Spotted Owl! We must save them!!!"

-- EcoFascists Everywhere

Posted by: Sharkman at April 08, 2023 12:07 PM (GuhUk)

48 The Russian River will be fun this spring.

Back in the Old Times, people had vacation cabins on the Russian River. In the fall, you took out all the furniture, and in the spring you hosed the cabin out, and put the furniture back.

Then people built big fancy houses on the Russian River, ignoring the fact that it is prone to severe flooding.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2023 12:10 PM (2tUFv)

49 This might never have been true or isn't true anymore but I remember reading years ago that CA farmers grow some really inappropriate crops for the regional water supply. And a lot was for export to Middle East. Idk.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 08, 2023 12:10 PM (1ais2)

50 'Lawd Lawd, where we gone put all this water?!?'
- California

'I sent you rain to relieve your drought. Use your brain.'
- GOD

Posted by: Eromero at April 08, 2023 12:11 PM (4svuj)

51 The leaves are coming out on my silver lace elm. Spring is getting close to completion.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2023 12:11 PM (BdMk6)

52 What is a snail darter, by the way? Is it a snail or does it dart after snails and eat them?

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 08, 2023 12:11 PM (eGTCV)

53 I know I could google but the Horde is super smart.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 08, 2023 12:13 PM (eGTCV)

54 but I remember reading years ago that CA farmers grow some really inappropriate crops for the regional water supply

Rice, rice, baby!

You mean California is an inappropriate place to grow monsoon crops?

Posted by: Cali Farmers! at April 08, 2023 12:13 PM (2tUFv)

55 They're using less water in California after losing significant population?

No way.

Posted by: Mind Blown at April 08, 2023 12:14 PM (Sdptm)

56 Fan of Dailytimewaster.blogspot.com and didn't exactly know until recently he is in northern California. He has been posting pictures of his area and heavy snows all winter.

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2023 12:14 PM (xhxe8)

57 They're using less water in California after losing significant population?

Give it time. California is less than 1.5% down from the peak population.

So far.

Posted by: Flee! at April 08, 2023 12:16 PM (2tUFv)

58 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snail_darter

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 12:17 PM (zZu0s)

59 Students like these need that cooling snow:
https://is.gd/Kvq9B7
beating up their teachers

Posted by: Ciampino -- A Summer Plaice at April 08, 2023 12:17 PM (qfLjt)

60 I saw a pic of the lodge at Bucks Lake. Snow as high as it's roof. Looked like it might have caved in. I think they had just rebuilt it.

Posted by: Reforger at April 08, 2023 12:20 PM (uN+Ja)

61 From Insty:

RIP: Farewell to Craig Breedlove, America’s King of Speed. “He was our earthbound Neil Armstrong. Craig Breedlove took giant leaps for us into the ethereal unknown on the salt flats of Bonneville, strapping inside handmade rockets that emerged from his mind, making history as the first human to fire past the 400-mph mark on land. Eclipsing 500 mph was next. And then it was flirting with the sound barrier as hurtling past 600 mph was achieved by this son of Southern California. Born in 1937 in Los Angeles, Breedlove—Land Speed Record racing’s biggest and most enduring star—died this week at the age of 86, bringing an end to one of the sport’s most celebrated chapters.”

RIP indeed.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 12:20 PM (zZu0s)

62 Oh, my acre feet!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 08, 2023 12:20 PM (63Dwl)

63 59 Students like these need that cooling snow:
https://is.gd/Kvq9B7
beating up their teachers
Posted by: Ciampino -- A Summer Plaice at April 08, 2023 12:17 PM (qfLjt)

The school to prison pipeline need to be enlarged.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2023 12:22 PM (PiwSw)

64 You really answered your own question. What do they worship? The self.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 08, 2023 12:02 PM (5aiaB)

it's what people have always wanted to do when left to their own devices. They want to make a god in their own image, rather then admit the reverse.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2023 12:25 PM (r46W7)

65 Well, they've done the impossible. Made beer unpopular.

"Never seen such little sales": This distributor is worried about losing his job because nobody's buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

https://bit.ly/3MuSxIk

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 12:25 PM (FVME7)

66 Water rights is a big problem locally. The pomegranate billionaires own a Paso vineyard and I hear people aren't happy.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2023 12:25 PM (jfVGF)

67 What are the odds of getting two 100-year floods on the same river drainage inn back-to-back years?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:26 PM (ykeLU)

68 65 Well, they've done the impossible. Made beer unpopular.

"Never seen such little sales": This distributor is worried about losing his job because nobody's buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

https://bit.ly/3MuSxIk
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 12:25 PM (FVME7)

If they had just made a PR statement or even ran an ad in the paper, fine.

They put a picture of a tranny on the can. That is something people cannot ignore when they make their beer purchase.

But who cares! I am sure the sales will be made up by all of those Budweiser Trans customers! Who will buy even more shitty beer in solidarity!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 12:28 PM (zZu0s)

69 We were in the 1997 Spring Creek flood in Colorado. the water receded quickly, but I was astonished at just how nasty the flood waters were. It smelled awful, and since then Mrs. Mahon hates having wet socks.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Lookin' for me wooden leg at April 08, 2023 12:29 PM (T/Lqj)

70 Light bulb!!! Why don't we truck all that snow to the high country of Colorado and sell the spring run-off back to California a little at a time?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:29 PM (ykeLU)

71 The TOP search result when you type in 'Budweiser' autocompletes to 'Budweiser Transgender'.

Lol.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 12:30 PM (zZu0s)

72 From Insty:

RIP: Farewell to Craig Breedlove, America’s King of Speed. “He was our earthbound Neil Armstrong. . . .

RIP indeed.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Didn't Carroll Shelby screw Breedlove over regarding a Goodyear drag tire franchise?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2023 12:31 PM (qoGsy)

73 If anyone here is in California and has Facebook, this is an excellent group that does their homework and keeps you up to date; The California For Food and People Movement

Posted by: JROD at April 08, 2023 12:31 PM (IlL6s)

74 buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

********

Seems like a fake girl (post-op) would be a good icon for Schlitz...

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:31 PM (ykeLU)

75 70 Light bulb!!! Why don't we truck all that snow to the high country of Colorado and sell the spring run-off back to California a little at a time?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:29 PM (ykeLU)

Isn't that the same racket that the Colorado River and Lake mead have been running for years?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 12:32 PM (zZu0s)

76 13 Texas is also in a drought. Mainly because a lack or rain over several years coupled with a population boom equals low reservoirs. Of course, Texas runs about a 10 year drought cycle from my personal observations... **grain of salt**🧂
Posted by: lin-duh at April 08, 2023 11:44 AM (UUBmN)

East Texas is just ending a rain that lasted 2 full days, so we're in good shape over here. It's fascinating to look at the truly great Texas droughts, the multi year ones; one happened through most of the 1890's, another from 1949 - 1957, and most recently the period from 2010 - 2013 (with a peak in 2011) It suggests that there is a 60 year period to the great droughts, which is a number which keeps popping up in all long term weather studies around the world, for any number of weather related phenomena.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2023 12:32 PM (r46W7)

77 Seems like a fake girl (post-op) would be a good icon for Schlitz...
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:31 PM (ykeLU)

*closes eyes, shakes head*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 12:32 PM (zZu0s)

78 ...farmers uphill from lowland flood zones are still being charged triple "drought rates" to pump water onto their land -

I guess that's all we need to know about the Why of this.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:32 PM (anj39)

79 AB distributors are independent companies. I imagine they’re spitting mad at corporate AB right now.

AB looked at New Coke and said hold my beer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 12:33 PM (u73oe)

80 buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

*******

They should put a full frontal pic on the can.

And here's her busch?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:33 PM (ykeLU)

81 buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

********

Seems like a fake girl (post-op) would be a good icon for Schlitz...
Posted by: Muldoon

St. Pauli (Trans) Girl is next.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2023 12:34 PM (qoGsy)

82 Does anyone remember the Great California Flood of 1862?

State got ten feet of water dropped on it in 43 days. The central valley became an inland lake. There were "atmospheric rivers" coming in from the ocean and dropping the water. The Sate of California went bankrupt over it. It was bibilical.

All those SUVs caused it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at April 08, 2023 12:34 PM (RqMSv)

83 In Washington State, if you collect the rainwater, the State will tax you for it.
A**holes.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:35 PM (anj39)

84 I thought the ad was perfect - a nasty fake woman for a nasty fake beer.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2023 12:36 PM (r46W7)

85 >>> 2 We need to restore the Bill of Rights. I read a lot of Brit stuff demanding the MAgna Carta be followed.
Posted by: CN at April 08, 2023 11:31 AM (Zzbjj)

I recently saw a news banner mentioning the royals "supported analysis of slaveholding history".

Who was it that forced the Magna Carta into being written in the first place...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 08, 2023 12:37 PM (llON8)

86 This is the weather that democrats could totally control if only you stupid deplorables paid more taxes, got rid of your SUVs and your gas ranges.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (jTmQV)

87 buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

********

Seems like a fake girl (post-op) would be a good icon for Schlitz...
Posted by: Muldoon

St. Pauli (Trans) Girl is next.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2023 12:34 PM (qoGsy)
***

Somehow I doubt we will see anything like this at next year's Oktoberfest.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (anj39)

88 New age, new religion wedding ceremony.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TgwjHBUW9MY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (FVME7)

89 Who was it that forced the Magna Carta into being written in the first place...?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 08, 2023 12:37 PM (llON

It was Black People.

Posted by: John Legend at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (r46W7)

90 Lake Tahoe is only 4 feet from it's limit. Lot of snow in that basin right now and only one place for it to go. Reno.
This run off could be epic. Almost as epic as the winter we just had.

Posted by: Reforger at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (uN+Ja)

91 Somehow I doubt we will see anything like this at next year's Oktoberfest.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (anj39)

No tranny beer wenches?

Posted by: BignJames at April 08, 2023 12:39 PM (AwYPR)

92 86 This is the weather that democrats could totally control if only you stupid deplorables paid more taxes, got rid of your SUVs and your gas ranges.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (jTmQV)

I don't know why they don't just ask the Jews to fix it with their giant magic Weather Controlling Machine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2023 12:40 PM (r46W7)

93 >>> 80 buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

*******

They should put a full frontal pic on the can.

And here's her busch?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:33 PM (ykeLU)

Repeating, just because.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 08, 2023 12:40 PM (llON8)

94 Budweiser's advertising execs' original plan was to put a wench on the can, but they ended up going with a tooll!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:41 PM (ykeLU)

95 Somehow I doubt we will see anything like this at next year's Oktoberfest.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:38 PM (anj39)

No tranny beer wenches?
Posted by: BignJames at April 08, 2023

Would you drink a bier served by a tranny wench?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:42 PM (anj39)

96 Anyone at AB get fired over this?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (u73oe)

97 What are the odds of getting two 100-year floods on the same river drainage inn back-to-back years?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:26 PM (ykeLU)

Probably a lot better than one might think, since "100 year flood" is basically a WAG.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (tkR6S)

98 After seeing the Budeweiser debacle, I don't feel so bad.

Posted by: Subway executive who hired Megan Rapinoe as spokesmodel at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (PiwSw)

99 If I were a liquor store owner with several hundred (or even a dozen) cases of Bud Light in my inventory I'd be plenty pissed.
'cause ain't nobody buying that.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (jTmQV)

100 In Washington State, if you collect the rainwater, the State will tax you for it.
A**holes.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:35 PM

Here in Texas you can collect rain water on your property but different Counties have different rules on it. I don't think my county has any rules but they do impose a "rain water run off" fee every month. It's part of my water/sewer bill.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (ncXxy)

101 Does anyone remember the Great California Flood of 1862?

Oh, it was terrible!

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at April 08, 2023 12:44 PM (mR6Gs)

102 It suggests that there is a 60 year period to the great droughts, which is a number which keeps popping up in all long term weather studies around the world, for any number of weather related phenomena.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2023 12:32 PM (r46W7)

That is certainly true in Alberta.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 12:45 PM (tkR6S)

103 > 80 buying Budweiser after its trans stunt

*******

They should put a full frontal pic on the can.

And here's her busch?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:33 PM (ykeLU)

Repeating, just because.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 08, 2023 12:40 PM (llON

Ahhh! So a Tran on the can is worth two in the Busch.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:45 PM (anj39)

104 Do liquor stores have a contract with Budweisrr requiring them to stock Bud Light?
I know smaller breweries have to earn space on the shelves.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 08, 2023 12:46 PM (eGTCV)

105 May contain: TOILET WASTE, HARMFUL GERMS, HAZARDOUS CHEMICALS, DOWNED POWER LINES, HEAVY OR SHARP OBJECTS, LIVE OR DEAD ANIMALS

*****

Wait. Are we still talking about Budweiser?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:46 PM (ykeLU)

106 99 If I were a liquor store owner with several hundred (or even a dozen) cases of Bud Light in my inventory I'd be plenty pissed.
'cause ain't nobody buying that.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (jTmQV)

Sell them to an outdoor scary bang stick range, and they can resell them as targets.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, Kid Rock has shown the way at April 08, 2023 12:46 PM (PiwSw)

107 97 What are the odds of getting two 100-year floods on the same river drainage inn back-to-back years?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:26 PM (ykeLU)

Probably a lot better than one might think, since "100 year flood" is basically a WAG.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (tkR6S)

I've lived long enough to notice that "100 year floods" happen in the same places every 20 - 25 years, and "500 year floods" happen every 40 or so.

Nick Taleb has written about this, and his argument is that the way we do statistics is good enough for 95% tolerance on either side of the bell curve of probabilities, but the way we calculate likelihood at the extremes is completely and fundamentally flawed, because our assumptions about probability are fundamentally flawed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 08, 2023 12:46 PM (r46W7)

108 What are the odds of getting two 100-year floods on the same river drainage inn back-to-back years?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:26 PM (ykeLU)

Probably a lot better than one might think, since "100 year flood" is basically a WAG.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM

Allstate insurance company pulled that 100 year $hit on us when we lived in Connecticut. They cancelled everyone's home owner insurance if you lived anywhere near the coast because they claimed we were over due for a hurricane to hit.

Turns out they were right and off just by a few years. Sandy came along in 2012 followed by another tropical depression that hit us the year after that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 08, 2023 12:46 PM (ncXxy)

109 I don't know why they don't just ask the Jews to fix it with their giant magic Weather Controlling Machine.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Couldn't CA simply ask the Weather Controllers to 'Passover' CA this time around?

*tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2023 12:48 PM (qoGsy)

110 A cool spring with gradual snow melt would be like a miracle to a lot of people
That would be wonderful indeed for many reasons.

Here's the other side of that coin:

I read a paper some years ago about California's flood history, how it was determined, and what the prospects were for something similar to happen again, and on what timescale.

The bottom line is that Cali has experienced truly epic megafloods on average every couple hundred years for a couple millennia, with the most recent one in 1861-1862. That meteorological finding was determined by studying soil cores taken from the brackish rim of San Francisco Bay. In dry years (low rainfall), the silts originate mainly in the Pacific Ocean, and they bring with them tiny marine organisms. In years with more rainfall, the silt deposits are laced with tiny freshwater organisms carried down from the Sierras through the Central Valley and into the Bay.

On rare occasion- every couple hundred years or so - there's an enormously deep deposit of freshwater organisms laid down along the shores of the Bay, indicating a tremendous amount of rainfall and snowfall had to had happened during that year.

(continued)

Posted by: crisis du jour at April 08, 2023 12:49 PM (Q5kPc)

111 Sell them to an outdoor scary bang stick range, and they can resell them as targets.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, Kid Rock has⁹ shown the way at April 08, 2023 12:46 PM (PiwSw)

Sell as targets. Although that might be literally murder.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 08, 2023 12:49 PM (eGTCV)

112 he study inferred that an inland flood like that was only possible if a large snowpack in the Sierras from the previous winter was melted in a hurry by ‘atmospheric river’ storms that bring torrential rains to the West Coast every so often.

Well, Cali definitely has the snowpack now. If it gets an ‘atmospheric river’ storm or two this spring (or even into the summer), we could see a repeat of the 1861-62 disaster, only worse because of the far larger population and infrastructure that would be affected by an epic flood. The cost in crops and livestock alone would be devastating.

I’m linking below a NOAA report on what they call an ARkStorm scenario (AR = Atmospheric River, and the k stands for 1000, as in an event that is so unlikely that it happens on average every 1000 years). The point of the entire paper is that climate change makes the ARkSTORM scenario worse … which, hypothetically, it would … but that emphasis doesnt nullify the good detective work that determined that these storms have already happened repeatedly for millennia.

https://tinyurl.com/ye2am8u4

Posted by: crisis du jour at April 08, 2023 12:50 PM (Q5kPc)

113 Any retailer makes money by selling.
Having any inventory not moving for whatever reason is a problem. Having it not move for some bone headed reason of corporate is a big problem.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:51 PM (jTmQV)

114 Anyone at AB get fired over this?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (u73oe)

Thought of a great meme: photo of shelf in an auto parts store, transmission fluid: "Dexron, mercon, Type F, Type LGBTQ+", with the latter being a can of Bud Lite.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 12:51 PM (tkR6S)

115 Saw a little article about Alissa Heinerscheid, marketing VP for Bud Light. She's everything you'd expect. Front and center the architect of the mess that resulted from the Dylan Dulvaney experiment.

However, I have to question the upper management at Anheuser Busch to allow this stunt to move forward. Yea, she created the ad campaign but Anheuser Busch OK'd it.

The end result seems to be a huge backlash against Bud Light directly. Even social media can't spin the disaster it has become. And... Bud Light is not selling, at least around here. The various displays are untouched, some have been defaced, which is good.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 08, 2023 12:51 PM (Q4IgG)

116 During an inter-glacial warming period, as water is unlocked from the ice caps, more water is released into the hydrosphere. There will be floods.

During the last glacial maximum, 15,000 or so years ago, sea level about 400 feet lower.

Posted by: davidt at April 08, 2023 12:51 PM (SYTee)

117 In 1861 they had big snows like this (it had been a bad 10 year drought prior, likely due to burning whale oil) and a warm rain came in and melted it all at once. All up and down the west coast. The flooding was everywhere.

So much water came through the bay that it formed a 15 ft hydraulic jump there. The Corvallis valley was flooded. The Central Valley was flooded. Los Angeles was flooded.

I wouldn’t want to see that happen now.

As mentioned, they had a 10,year drought prior to that rain. Then a bunch of other long droughts prior to 1900. Long droughts are nothing new in California, up the SCIENCE! crowd printers they are.

I’m so sick of it all.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at April 08, 2023 12:52 PM (V8yYW)

118 What are the odds of getting two 100-year floods on the same river drainage inn back-to-back years?
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:26 PM (ykeLU)

Well.
**grabs pencil and papaer...sticks tongue out of corner of mouth**
100 subtract 99, then add 1 to 99...carry the 2.
*opens bier*
Add together, and divide by two, throw in leap years...
ANSWER:
The first flood ended the previous 100 year period.
The second flood initiated the second 100 year period.

*finishes bier*

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:53 PM (anj39)

119 Do liquor stores have a contract with Budweisrr requiring them to stock Bud Light?
I know smaller breweries have to earn space on the shelves.
Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 08, 2023 12:46 PM (eGTCV)

—————-

Readers Digest version: All beverage companies have some variation of a customer development agreement all based on space allocation. Retailer agrees to X amount of cooler space, X amount of display space, X amount of promotions, etc and they get a product price based on that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 12:54 PM (u73oe)

120 Local microbreweries have one shot at shelf space in liquor stores. If their product moves they'll get more space. If it doesn't move someone else gets the space.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 08, 2023 12:54 PM (eGTCV)

121 It's like Hannibal Smith says, I love it when a plan comes together.

Biden Admin Brags About The “Planning” Before Failed Withdrawal From Afghanistan

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 12:54 PM (FVME7)

122 If I were a liquor store owner with several hundred (or even a dozen) cases of Bud Light in my inventory I'd be plenty pissed.
'cause ain't nobody buying that.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

The retailers are really taking it in the can!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2023 12:54 PM (qoGsy)

123 The first flood ended the previous 100 year period.
The second flood initiated the second 100 year period.

*finishes bier*
Posted by: Diogenes

*********

This is correct!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:55 PM (ykeLU)

124 "Yea, she created the ad campaign but Anheuser Busch OK'd it. "

No one has the stones to stop it. Especially a man.
This is why all bad ideas flourish these days.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:56 PM (jTmQV)

125 With all the water, comes mosquitoes. Commiefornia should import the Cane Toad to eradicate the pests.

Face it, those in charge are that stupid.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 08, 2023 12:56 PM (R/m4+)

126 I saw Brackish Rim open for Hole at the Beat Club in '07.

Posted by: Flood the Zone! at April 08, 2023 12:57 PM (Nn3xT)

127 Should change the name to Buddumber.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 12:58 PM (FVME7)

128 Brought forward for those interested: Let's take a peek at what was happening at Anzio this week in 1944. Earlier in the week German artillery shelling had increased substantially.

Apr 7, 1944
CB was put on the spot for sure. [Margin note: Met Gen Truscott, CG VI Corps, on this deal.] A notice was given to do something about the firing and all Div Arty Cmdrs were called in on the session. Nothing in the way of a decision made except to enlarge the CB section. We now will have 9 officers and 12 men.

Apr 8, 1944
Maj Williamson was called back from Naples.
Pressure is really on CB now. We are making a nice set-up with two sub-sections, one for west and one for east halves of the beachhead. Bradstock, RA, has the west sector. I have the east. Major Williamson is a super coordinator.

CB = counterbattery
RA = British Royal Artillery

Here's a first hand account of artillery training and on through the Italy campaign from an enlisted member of the Royal Artillery

https://is.gd/uyvUwT

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:58 PM (ykeLU)

129 124 "Yea, she created the ad campaign but Anheuser Busch OK'd it. "

No one has the stones to stop it. Especially a man.
This is why all bad ideas flourish these days.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:56 PM (jTmQV)

The first step to fixing Academia is not to fire all the DIE Deans; it's to fire the people who hired them.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 08, 2023 12:58 PM (PiwSw)

130 The first flood ended the previous 100 year period.
The second flood initiated the second 100 year period.

*finishes bier*
Posted by: Diogenes

*********

This is correct!
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 12:55 PM (ykeLU)
***

Woohoo!
*puts down slide.rule*
*opens another bier*
*sighs contentedly*

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 12:59 PM (anj39)

131 BREAKING: The CA almond crop is expected to be so large this year due to the heavy rains that growers are scrambling to find enough workers to milk all of them.

Applicants must have very tiny hands.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 08, 2023 12:59 PM (s12c9)

132 The end result seems to be a huge backlash against Bud Light directly. Even social media can't spin the disaster it has become. And... Bud Light is not selling, at least around here. The various displays are untouched, some have been defaced, which is good.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Real ~~men~~ wymen of genius. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at April 08, 2023 01:00 PM (qoGsy)

133 Biden Admin Brags About The “Planning” Before Failed Withdrawal From Afghanistan

I'm picturing a room full of crazed chimpanzees with magic markers and tape.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 08, 2023 01:01 PM (s12c9)

134 No one has the stones to stop it. Especially a man.
This is why all bad ideas flourish these days.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 12:56 PM (jTmQV)

I had a talk with a black coworker about this yesterday and he said no one wants to be accused of not being inclusive.
We both agreed that the pendulum will swing back and the waling will be epic.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 08, 2023 01:01 PM (mR6Gs)

135 Long droughts are nothing new in California, up the SCIENCE! crowd printers they are.

In the 1970s, scientists used sequoia tree rings to determine rainfall patters for the last 2,000 years in California.

They came to two conclusions:

1) California is prone to severe multi-year droughts.

2) White people settled California during an unusually wet period - California is normally considerably drier than what people were used to.

Posted by: Flee! at April 08, 2023 01:02 PM (2tUFv)

136 Applicants must have very tiny hands.
Posted by: Cicero

*******

Heh!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 01:02 PM (ykeLU)

137 Bud Light should change the name to Sodomite Light.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 08, 2023 01:02 PM (R/m4+)

138 Well, at least we know it's not a Biblical flood because there are rainbows everywhere you look.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 01:03 PM (FVME7)

139 Spuds McKenzie weeps.

Posted by: davidt at April 08, 2023 01:03 PM (SYTee)

140 It used to be that, out of a range of possible actions, the most stupid or ridiculous one would occasionally get chosen by accident or something.
Now, it's the most likely outcome.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 08, 2023 01:04 PM (jTmQV)

141 I don't miss Budweiser, light or otherwise, because I never drank it. Despicable swill. They brought out "cheladas" a few years ago (beer plus Clamato) which tasted OK, but they still gave me vicious heartburn, so I learned to avoid them, too.

What does piss me off, is that A-B also owns Four Peaks here in AZ, which makes a very drinkable Scottish Ale called Kiltlifter. Now, I cannot, in good conscience, drink that anymore.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 01:04 PM (tkR6S)

142 Counter Battery back then was dangerous work. One of the better ways was to do crater analysis which meant going to where the round landed and doing a back azimuth off the shell spray and looking at the angle the round dug into the ground. You needed several craters to get a fix. Of course this means going to where artillery had just landed.
Not always a good idea.
Another was was sound ranging which can be astonishingly accurate, but it takes time, and around the mountains of Italy, may not be very accurate at all due to echoes.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 01:05 PM (anj39)

143 Anyone at AB get fired over this?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 12:43 PM (u73oe)

I'm sure the guy/womyn/persyn of menstruation who masterminded the idea will move on to some other well-paying position in the marketing field. Hell, he/she/xhe/xim probably already has Gillete on its resume.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 08, 2023 01:05 PM (s12c9)

144 The milkin almonds thing: beautiment!

Posted by: Holy Crap at April 08, 2023 01:06 PM (02n6T)

145 Posted by: Diogenes

******

I'd be interested in your interpretation of my dad's description of the 280 mm dud they were able to examine (from one of the "Anzio Annie" rail guns)

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 01:08 PM (ykeLU)

146 As I recall Cali water system was built for 20m and there's now 45m people living there. There is no additional ways to capture all the excess snow melt. Should be fun to watch. The big problem could be dams breeching because previously the water was low and now very high. Dams usually need a specific range of pressure behind them to maintain stability.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 08, 2023 01:08 PM (386ly)

147 *tap, tap, tap*

Is this thing on?
Posted by: Tonypete

(why dint I think of that ?)

Posted by: JT at April 08, 2023 01:08 PM (T4tVD)

148 65 Well, they've done the impossible. Made beer unpopular.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 12:25 PM (FVME7)

---

The "GeT WoKe Go BrOkE!" copers ought to pause for a minute or two and consider that they knew exactly what the reaction would be and yet they did it anyway. Why?

Because everybody heard their message. That was the fucking point. They're doing exactly what they did with gay "marriage": hammering away at society from all directions, chipping away at the resistance of people and institutions bit by bit until society is worn down and their latest abomination becomes the new normal. It's so fucking obvious.

Evil never sleeps. These people have unlimited resources backing them. They can afford to take a hit in the short term to win the long game. Gee, has Gillette gone broke yet?

And meanwhile "conservatives" who can't see anything about money are too fucking stupid and short-sighted to engage in any effective counter-messaging. They'll just keep giving ground, running away until there's nowhere left to run.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at April 08, 2023 01:08 PM (0Uf+z)

149 Someone was at my door and I hit Post before I was finished, the pomegranate billionaires are buying water or water rights and people aren't happy about it and there may be big fights coming.
Harvard is also buying up farm ground and growing different crops and something about water rights with Harvard too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2023 01:09 PM (jfVGF)

150 I feel sorry for all the people downstream of AB’s stunt. Warehouse workers, truck drivers, salesmen, merchandisers, etc will all suffer.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 01:09 PM (u73oe)

151 In fact, that incident is coming up in a few days, so I'll go ahead and post it now.

Apr 11.
Bomb Disposal brought in an unusual specimen today, a 280mm dud. It has 12 longitudinal rotating strips instead of the usual band. Length: about 3 ½ ft. Wt.: over 500 lbs. Range is unknown but it is bound to be a very long range gun.

Did the shell have ridges that provided the spin (as opposed to rifling in the barrel of the gun)?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 01:12 PM (ykeLU)

152 The 280 mm dud.
Step one: Avoid if at all possible!
Actually duds can tell you several things. First of course is the weapon system. Hopefully there is sufficient knowledge of that gun to give you an idea of range and how it works. Say a range of 30ks and you know it is restricted to rails. If it landed in dirt, one could get a rough azimuth of flight, and with a decent map and/or aerial observation, have a pretty good idea where the gun may be located. Probably to within a kilometer or two.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 01:13 PM (anj39)

153 "Alissa Heinerscheid, vice president of marketing for Bud Light, is the first woman to ever lead the popular brand.

'As the first woman to lead the biggest beer brand in the world, it’s an amazing opportunity to really evolve and elevate Bud Light, this brand I love,” says Heinerscheid.'" https://tinyurl.com/yckjnpj2

*snort*

Collect your trophy at the cashier's window on the way out. Stupid bint.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 08, 2023 01:14 PM (s12c9)

154 Let my people gooooooo

Posted by: Moses, singing bass at April 08, 2023 01:14 PM (V6LRK)

155 Globalism. What can't it ruin? Below are the first several paragraphs of a Daily Mail article explaining why corporations are using Dylan Mulvaney.

"Big brands pushing woke advertising on their customers are being graded by a major LGBTQ lobbying group that keeps close tabs on their level of equality, publishing their scores to keep them in competition with their rivals.

Corporations including Nike and Anheuser-Busch feature LGBTQ public figures - most notably trans star Dyland Mulvaney - avoid losing crucial 'credit score' points that could ruin their bottom lines.

Lucrative deals and ideological advertising campaigns all play into a business' 'Corporate Equality Index', a ranking overseen by the Human Rights Campaign.

The HRC, the most powerful LGBTQ+ political lobbying group in the world, compiles woke scorecards based on corporate box ticking."

Posted by: Gref at April 08, 2023 01:16 PM (AMIL/)

156 I'm sure the guy/womyn/persyn of menstruation who masterminded the idea will move on to some other well-paying position in the marketing field. Hell, he/she/xhe/xim probably already has Gillete on its resume.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 08, 2023 01:05 PM (s12c9)

Sports garment maker Nike has also taken on Dylan Multranny as a "spokesmodel". Matters little to me, since they have been on my shitlist for general douchiness since long before the time of Colon Krapperdick. But I sure would like to see an entire sportsball team use Magic Markers to circle/slash the Nike swoosh on their uniforms at the start of a game. What's management going to do, fire the whole team?

Come on, sportsball athletes, if you don't do this thing, you are all pansy fags.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 01:17 PM (tkR6S)

157 I feel sorry for all the people downstream of AB’s stunt. Warehouse workers, truck drivers, salesmen, merchandisers, etc will all suffer.

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That might be one of the purposes of this. Killing capitalism.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 08, 2023 01:17 PM (BdMk6)

158 153 "Alissa Heinerscheid, vice president of marketing for Bud Light, is the first woman to ever lead the popular brand.

'As the first woman to lead the biggest beer brand in the world, it’s an amazing opportunity to really evolve and elevate Bud Light, this brand I love,” says Heinerscheid.'" https://tinyurl.com/yckjnpj2

*snort*

Collect your trophy at the cashier's window on the way out. Stupid bint.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 08, 2023 01:14 PM (s12c9)

This is what happens when you let them out of the kitchen and have shoes. They wreck the culture, the movies, dating, the court system, and now beer. Their destructive impulses need to be contained and restrained.

Posted by: Like radioactivity. at April 08, 2023 01:18 PM (V6LRK)

159 >>However, I have to question the upper management at Anheuser Busch to allow this stunt to move forward. Yea, she created the ad campaign but Anheuser Busch OK'd it.

AB hasn't owned Bud in over a decade. The company was sold to InBev in 2008, a Belgian/Brazilian multi-billion dollar conglomerate.

Budweiser is McBeer.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2023 01:18 PM (ZLI7S)

160 The brouhaha over Bud Light also harms the McCain family bottom line. Cindy "No H8" McCain's family fortune comes from the AZ distributorship for A-B.

May it all come tumbling down about them!

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at April 08, 2023 01:19 PM (l7Kbv)

161 have a pretty good idea where the gun may be located. Probably to within a kilometer or two.
Posted by: Diogenes

*********

Turns out we had a pretty good idea that the big guns were somewhere around the rail yards SE of Rome, but hidden well in tunnels. The Allied air supremacy kept them pretty well bottled up and ineffective, limiting them to cloudy/overcast days and only a handful of rounds sent down range. I guess it took 5-10 minutes to reload and prepare to fire the big old things so they could only fire a few before scuttling back into the tunnels.

I like to think my dad's team analyzing this dud and its crater helped with locating the big guns.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 01:21 PM (ykeLU)

162 AB hasn't owned Bud in over a decade. The company was sold to InBev in 2008, a Belgian/Brazilian multi-billion dollar conglomerate.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2023 01:18 PM (ZLI7S)
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Our end goal is to break into the Tranny Brazilian Wax market! Dudes are hairy; we'll make a KILLING!

Posted by: the Brazilian wax-industrial complex at April 08, 2023 01:22 PM (0mN7F)

163 Does the Busch family still own Budweiser?

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2023 01:23 PM (jfVGF)

164 Belgians...

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2023 01:26 PM (V13WU)

165 I like to think my dad's team analyzing this dud and its crater helped with locating the big guns.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 01:21 PM (ykeLU)

I expect that now, with real-time satellite data available, to the big players at least, artillery batteries could be pinpointed by looking for the muzzle flash.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 01:27 PM (tkR6S)

166 In bad snow years, the Oregon Global Warming Commission puts up a statement on its web page saying that Mount Hood will soon be snow-free in the winter.
In good snow years (like this one), they quietly remove the statement.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 08, 2023 11:48 AM (2tUFv)

In poor snow years the Oregon Forestry Department puts out warnings about drought and elevated forest fire risk

In good snow years the Oregon Forestry Department puts out warnings about available fuels in the forests and grasslands causing elevated fire risk.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 08, 2023 01:27 PM (xhaym)

167 I of course commented a day late and a dollar short. One of the Busch kids opened a winery near me and they have a polo field. Folded Hills Winery.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2023 01:27 PM (jfVGF)

168 Here's a book you could buy.

Discover Hidden Bible Sexual Freedom: Not Taught in Bible Colleges nor Church Book 1

https://amzn.to/3nYDAUz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 01:27 PM (FVME7)

169 Belgians...
Posted by: runner at April 08, 2023 01:26 PM (V13WU)

The beer barons were always belchin'.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 01:28 PM (tkR6S)

170 You could always try a Stella or a Labatt's or a Beck's or a Corona but they are also beers in a dress, all owned by InBev.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2023 01:28 PM (ZLI7S)

171 150 I feel sorry for all the people downstream of AB’s stunt. Warehouse workers, truck drivers, salesmen, merchandisers, etc will all suffer.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 08, 2023 01:09 PM (u73oe)

I do too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 08, 2023 01:30 PM (jfVGF)

172 Budweiser was inbev's premier brand. In terms of dollars, not taste, people. That is until this massive debacle.

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2023 01:32 PM (V13WU)

173 You could always try a Stella or a Labatt's or a Beck's or a Corona but they are also beers in a dress, all owned by InBev.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2023 01:28 PM (ZLI7S)

Shiner Bock FTW. Or many local craft breweries not owned by InBev. Coors jumped the shark with some sort of rainbow crap. Fuck them, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 08, 2023 01:32 PM (tkR6S)

174 I see that the dot gov has kicked all the Catholic priests out of Walter Reed during Holy Week. Terminated the Franciscan's contract they've had for twenty years and awarded it to a 'secular' defense contractor who suddenly couldn't fulfil the SoW.

The only Catholic Army Chaplain at Walter Reed is currently separating from service.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at April 08, 2023 01:33 PM (l7Kbv)

175 GARDEN NOOD IS BLOOMING

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2023 01:33 PM (xhxe8)

176 Beer is easy to replace. With other, better tasting beer.

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2023 01:34 PM (V13WU)

177 173 You could always try a Stella or a Labatt's or a Beck's or a Corona but they are also beers in a dress, all owned by InBev.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 08, 2023 01:28 PM (ZLI7S)
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Support local craft breweries not owned by globohomo megacorps who want you dead.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at April 08, 2023 01:34 PM (0Uf+z)

178 I like Yuengling. Tasty. Decently priced. Family owned and operated.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 08, 2023 01:37 PM (5u1+1)

179 There was also a massive flood in Oregon in 1862. It rerouted the Willamette in places and washed out Champoeģ which was one of the most important towns on the river and probably on track to being the state capital. It really caused most of the river towns to be rebuilt on higher ground
It was caused by the warm rains arriving to melt off the heavy snowpack.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 08, 2023 01:40 PM (xhaym)

180 Whew. Guinness is not InBev looks like. That and Yeungling Black and Tan are all I drink.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 08, 2023 01:41 PM (1ais2)

181 Only get craft beers last few decades. I like them just don't get beer much.

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2023 01:41 PM (xhxe8)

182 Pretty sure that the gal on the Miller High Life label weren't no tranny.
https://tinyurl.com/2ybad852

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2023 01:42 PM (UKHcf)

183 Pretty sure that the gal on the Miller High Life label weren't no tranny.
https://tinyurl.com/2ybad852
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Yeah, me either.

Posted by: Mable, at Black Label at April 08, 2023 01:43 PM (UKHcf)

184 I like Yuengling. Tasty. Decently priced. Family owned and operated.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse
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Same here. It's all I buy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 08, 2023 01:44 PM (UKHcf)

185 This tranny Budweiser thing is US FoR Pol. And not coincidence. InBev is part of US For Pol Strategy.

Just because it seems insane to you does not mean ppl unqualified to think anout Strategy (or even conceive of what Strategy is and is not) arwn't thinking about and "doing" strategy for US.

This stuff is part of US National Security.

Just like Disney.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 08, 2023 01:45 PM (1ais2)

186 Asahi, TsingTao, Sapporo, Kirin, Singha. There you go. You won't regret it.

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2023 01:48 PM (V13WU)

187 If you want the "best beer"....brew your own...it ain't hard.

Posted by: BignJames at April 08, 2023 01:49 PM (AwYPR)

188

REVEALED: The Real Reason Why Fake Woman Dylan Mulvaney Is Suddenly Everywhere

https://tinyurl.com/bdd97rdc

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 08, 2023 01:50 PM (63Dwl)

189 Discover Hidden Bible Sexual Freedom: Not Taught in Bible Colleges nor Church Book 1

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Here's the rationale.

"The Bible is full of sexual freedom for all people for all times. The only reason you do not see this sexual freedom in the New Testament is because the pagan Roman Empire outlawed polygamy in fear that the Hebrew Jews and Christians would overpopulate and overpower them."

Yeah, the Ancient Romans were known for their sexual repression.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 08, 2023 01:50 PM (FVME7)

190 Make your own hooch !

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2023 01:51 PM (V13WU)

191 You could always try a Stella or a Labatt's or a Beck's or a Corona but they are also beers in a dress, all owned by InBev.

Stella makes me Phlegmish. So do Belgian waffles for that matter.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2023 01:52 PM (acuTG)

192 Stella makes me Phlegmish. So do Belgian waffles for that matter.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at April 08, 2023 01:52 PM (acuTG)

I'd poast a "pun" (short for punishment) about "walloons" and "balloons" or something but I am not a psychopath.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 08, 2023 01:56 PM (1ais2)

193 108 -- About ten years back, the Army Corps of Engineers fucked up massively. The northern states with waterways emptying into the Missouri River had massive, massive snowfalls. The people below the Gavins Point dam begged the Corps for months to release extra water to relieve the coming flood. Nope. The Corps simply did not see any reason to release the extra water. (Had to keep those pallid sturgeon reproducing waters at a safe, constant level.) Come the spring melt, Gavins Point was overrun in a matter of a couple of days. It was an incredible mess. All the bridges between Omaha and Council Bluffs, except the I80 bridge, were flooded and unusable. The really bad thing was that the Feds declared that nobody could buy flood insurance as of the date the Corps realized Gavins Point wouldn't hold. And it wasn't just Omaha. That flood went clear down to Louisiana.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I wasn't particularly fond of the '70s the first time around at April 08, 2023 02:00 PM (k5jR3)

194 https://legalinsurrection.com/biden administration proposes new title ix rules that would force schools to embrace gender identity in women sports

Posted by: Skip at April 08, 2023 02:25 PM (xhxe8)

195 'Pallid Sturgeon' would be a good commenter nic or band name.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 02:28 PM (zZu0s)

196 I like to think my dad's team analyzing this dud and its crater helped with locating the big guns.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 08, 2023 01:21 PM (ykeLU)

Had to step out for the neighborhood Easter egg hunt.

It's very likely his analysis helped. I think a dud that big would be a magnet for the CB guys. But run like hell when the EOD guys show up!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 02:34 PM (anj39)

197 This isn't some "emergent" result of impersonal forces. I don't believe in "emergence" anyway. But if I did, this wouldn't be an example of it.

The District of Columbia is at war with everything outside of itself. And spreading this stuff is somehow understood as crucial to the District's security.

The Pentagon is not following this because it is trying to catch up to "the modern world".

The Pentagon is telling us this us a National Security issue.

The people tasked with Strategy understand this stuff as the core of "National" security. More so than anything else except perhaps UKR continuing the fight.

Why? I doubt we can ever know. Strategy is very hard. It has an almost impossibly high cognitive threshold to entry. There arwn't any capable of it at the highest levels. Some at the second level below them are. Few at the level just below the top.

Harsh truth. Trannies and esp trannie kids are viewed as the core National Security endeavor.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 08, 2023 02:39 PM (bptYL)

198 Singha is Thai. The others are Japanese

Posted by: SFGoth at April 08, 2023 02:39 PM (KAi1n)

199 Muldoon,
If you are still here, check this out.
Anzio Annie

http://samilitaryhistory. org/vol133lw.html

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Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 02:42 PM (anj39)

200 What's the plural of horse? Is it horses or just horse?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 08, 2023 02:47 PM (VdGjU)

201 horses

Posted by: lin-duh at April 08, 2023 02:55 PM (UUBmN)

202 Posted by: Diogenes at April 08, 2023 02:42 PM (anj39)

That's interesting. Thanks.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 02:55 PM (zZu0s)

203 What's the plural of horse? Is it horses or just horse?
Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 08, 2023 02:47 PM (VdGjU)

Yes.

Horse belongs to a class of very old English nouns that probably come from a non-indo-European language from NE Europe, that are both plural and singular. Sheep, Deer and Elk are others.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 08, 2023 02:58 PM (xhaym)

204 20 mule team borax!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at April 08, 2023 03:07 PM (zZu0s)

205 There are three horses at the pub and that sounds like the right word.
But if there were 100 horse sounds like the right word.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 08, 2023 03:23 PM (VdGjU)

206 The Tahoe picture isn't, it's from Japan.
Still a pretty pic!
https://tinyurl.com/29jrkt75

Posted by: GruntDoc at April 08, 2023 03:38 PM (d8+wO)

207

I can take three horses...

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at April 08, 2023 03:54 PM (Hs6x0)

208 Strategy is very hard. It has an almost impossibly high cognitive threshold to entry. There aren't any capable of it at the highest levels. Some at the second level below them are.
Posted by: Thesokorus

Before I switched business are divisions, I executed competitive intelligence and tied it to strategy in marketing and IRAD investment. Made a lot of $ for my old division. My current division hasn't got a fucking clue whether or not it's day or night much less why and when to be aggressive or silent about technology with our customers. Bunch of MBA degreed dumbasses running it that aren't engineers first or architects second.

Posted by: BifBewalski at April 08, 2023 03:55 PM (3CCua)

209 GruntDoc at April 08, 2023 03:38 PM

Thanks. I updated. I guess in Tahoe, they closed the resort instead of digging out like that.

Posted by: KT at April 08, 2023 04:08 PM (rrtZS)

210
FYI
The Salinas River which is in Monterey County is no longer in drought condition.
The county has been declared a Federal Disaster area so citizens had their tax deadline extended to Oct. 16.

Posted by: YIKES! at April 08, 2023 04:26 PM (t6XCL)

211 test

Posted by: runner at April 08, 2023 06:12 PM (V13WU)

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