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Newsom Nightmares

newsomflg 1.jpg

This is how Newsom's new logo copies from his Twitter feed.
Of course, the original is much more inviting

Great news! Gavin Newsom is not running for president! He is just going to save Democracy from Evil Republicans via a new national PAC!

April Fools! He's really running for president!

Just the News:

Gavin Newsom launches political organization to oppose Republican policies in red states

We've all been waiting for this!

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Do you think David Reaboi is right? This is a tough position:

Low IQ replies indicate you think I *like* this guy, or that I want him to win? He's the scariest, most evil Dem to come along in years. But he would absolutely crush a totally inarticulate guy with 100% name ID who's despised by more than half the country--and if you're honest with yourself, you know it, too.

Trump can be articulate. But he is not typically a linear thinker (one of the things that has sometimes been a strength). A lot of people don't understand or appreciate his typical mode of communication.

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Incidentally, you may or may not remember that Michael Schellenberger ran against Gavin Newsom for Governor of California in the recall election. He said a lot of sensible things. One of his journalistic specialties had been the inanity of some "green" energy policies (particularly those in California). His articles on these issues are very articulate.

Fast forward to current topics in the news, here he discusses how some discoveries during the Twitter Files project got personal:

Some of Newsom's Policy Highlights in California

Is it a good idea to make the rest of the nation more like California? Newsom says Republicans are too "authoritarian". Think this will lower gas prices in California? I heard on the news a few weeks ago that a Canadian outfit just bought an oil property in the Central Valley. Wonder if they will be selling gas in California?

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This one hurts right now:

walking in flood.jpg

Lois Henry:

Renato Soto wades through water in front of the New Life Church of God in Lamont in 2017. It was the third time that year the town was flooded by Caliente Creek. Flooding is a problem in Lamont and other small valley towns whenever streams see excessive runoff. But Gov. Newsom's administration has pulled $40 million that was earmarked for valley flood projects from its proposed budget.

Photo by Henry Barrios used courtesy of The Bakersfield Californian.

Flooding in 2017 was NOTHING like it is this year. Additionally, Newsom has failed to spend the money set aside for new reservoirs - both for flood control and to store water for drought years.

Some towns have raised local taxes for their own flood control. But dangling state money then yanking it away seems cruel. Of course, Newsom has squandered a reputed budget surplus.

An added feature is that the way-behind-schedule and way-over-budget high speed rail construction that has just been started is flooded in parts of the area where money could have been spent to prevent flooding. And why did they route the rail line where they knew the ground had sunk (due to pumping ground water because no new reservoirs had been built to supply water)?

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Newsom signed legislation in 2020 creating the first in the nation reparations task force.

Let's see how that's going.

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Newsom has been conquering homelessness for a long time now! That's one reason so many people are leaving the Bay Area!

For a while, Newsom gave homeless people bus tickets out of San Francisco. That policy expired. Now, ultra-expensive housing is being built for the homeless.


Wouldn't you rather live in California than an icky Red State? Don't you want all Red States to have California Values? Newsom's hair is so slick.

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, March 25, Critical Consciousness

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.


Posted by: K.T. at 11:06 AM




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1 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 11:07 AM (kRCyC)

2 Hi, Skip

Posted by: KT at April 01, 2023 11:11 AM (rrtZS)

3 Newsome looks like Patrick Bateman...probably acts like him too.

Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at April 01, 2023 11:11 AM (MJywS)

4 You know what will get him votes ? Reparations pledge. That is will get every black vote. And some stupid white votes.

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 11:11 AM (V13WU)

5 Been saying Gruesome will be most likely the next Marxist candidate and henceforth probably president installed

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 11:12 AM (xhxe8)

6 I know everyone think because CA is a hated state, he'd lose nationwide, but honestly I could see this evil son of a bitch be their next Obama. If Biden can win, so can this guy.

I dont think anyone really buys into "Biden is a moderate", so a very outwardly liberal Democrat can easily win a national election right now. Most of why Biden has low ratings is simply his obvious mental impairment.

There's two competing theories with what's going on the US. Some people think its election fraud and we're still a right-leaning country. I'm more in the camp that we're just not the same country we grew up in and it's now more center-left. And that's now showing up in how we vote.

Posted by: Blago at April 01, 2023 11:12 AM (cOFom)

7 That is a very punchable face.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 11:13 AM (eGTCV)

8 Peoples' brains turn to jello from shaking their heads so much...that must be how it works.

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2023 11:15 AM (AwYPR)

9 There's two competing theories with what's going on the US. Some people think its election fraud and we're still a right-leaning country. I'm more in the camp that we're just not the same country we grew up in and it's now more center-left. And that's now showing up in how we vote.
Posted by: Blago at April 01, 2023 11:12 AM (cOFom)


Upper-middle-class whites have been trending to the left since the 90s. 9/11 halted that trend and pushed them to the right for about six years or so (the so-called "security moms" and such), but that ended by 2008 and Obama.

The problem is that the GOP continues to believe that it can win that group over by projecting moderation and "competence," which isn't the case.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 01, 2023 11:15 AM (wmDcS)

10 Sadly, I think Reaboi is right. Newsom is the very definition of the word "slick". There are enough people who are fooled by his demeanor that he'll beat Trump handily.

I don't say this as a DeSantis advocate, it's just my opinion.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:16 AM (eOEVl)

11 Reparations is a classic mau-mau tactic.
"Gibs me dat or else we gonna riot, loot, burn, and murder."
Oh, you mean like what is happening already?
I'll take my chances, thanks.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 11:16 AM (jTmQV)

12 Newsome is slick alright, his hair that is.

Posted by: Javems at April 01, 2023 11:16 AM (AmoqO)

13 A hair fire would come in handy.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 11:17 AM (eGTCV)

14 Sadly, I think Reaboi is right. Newsom is the very definition of the word "slick". There are enough people who are fooled by his demeanor that he'll beat Trump handily.

I don't say this as a DeSantis advocate, it's just my opinion.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:16 AM (eOEVl)


He'll beat DeSantis as well.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 01, 2023 11:17 AM (wmDcS)

15 How many congressional seats has CA lost?
At least 2 I think.
People vote with their feet.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 11:17 AM (jTmQV)

16 Oh are we still tucking the "If this guy(D) runs then this guy(R) will run him over like a train" under our pillows at night?

The only thing that is true in my mind is by the time that the next election rolls around, we will only be 4 into the 1000 years of darkness.

996 years to go.....Whoop!!/Big

Posted by: Drider at April 01, 2023 11:17 AM (R/UH9)

17 I know everyone think because CA is a hated state, he'd lose nationwide, but honestly I could see this evil son of a bitch be their next Obama. If Biden can win, so can this guy.

I dont think anyone really buys into "Biden is a moderate", so a very outwardly liberal Democrat can easily win a national election right now. Most of why Biden has low ratings is simply his obvious mental impairment.


For those who dislike Biden because he's old and mentally impaired, Newsome is the answer. He's young and slick, so the Dems don't have to feel guilty about foisting another ancient Boo Radley on us.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:17 AM (eOEVl)

18 If the Deep State gets behind him, and the Propaganda Ministry he is the shoe in

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 11:17 AM (xhxe8)

19 Newsome is slick alright, his hair that is.

Posted by: Javems at April 01, 2023 11:16 AM (AmoqO)

It's the eel snot.

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2023 11:18 AM (AwYPR)

20
I would say Newsom's got the best chance to win of any Dim. Mostly because-

he's got a great head of successful Democrat politician hair!

That's all it seems to take for women voters to go Democrat. Esp after the constant 24/7 bombardment by the MSM about how sexy he is, and how much gravitas Ol' Newzy carries cuz of his Touch O' Grey Hair.

The 'Ettes are in mortal peril of voting Democrat111!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 01, 2023 11:19 AM (mm6iK)

21 Gavin Newsom launches political organization to oppose Republican policies in red states

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It's existed for decades. It's called CARB

It's why normal people can't buy gas cans that work or cars with vent windows. Oh, and they're the ones banning internal combustion engines, too. But don't worry, you'll be fine. It won't really happen.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 11:19 AM (5D4CW)

22 That hairstyle is reminiscent of every creep in every movie ever.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 11:19 AM (eGTCV)

23 The CA Faction making it's move. We'll see how HRC and Barry's CHC faction counter.

The DEM intra-party hijinks are brutal.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:20 AM (1ais2)

24 *People vote with their feet.*

That's cute.

Posted by: Dominion Voting Systems at April 01, 2023 11:20 AM (DhOHl)

25
Do you think David Reaboi is right? This is a tough position:

Reaboi is full tilt DeSantis, regularly showing pics of him and his friends in DeSantis office. Maybe he think he'll het an appointment by being NT.

Will Newsom win? I doubt it, at least not without a big cheat. The only dems who might are Hillary and RFK Jr. Hillary will get the female vote and cheat, RFK Jr will score high with the mRNA haters and reining in pharma and it's fake regulators.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 11:21 AM (Zzbjj)

26 I wouldn't buy a used car from Newsom.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 01, 2023 11:21 AM (4I/2K)

27 How many congressional seats has CA lost?
At least 2 I think.
People vote with their feet.
Posted by: gourmand du jour


One. One seat.

So, they went from 53 all the way down to 52. The walls are surely closing in.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 01, 2023 11:22 AM (jzzG8)

28 26 I wouldn't buy a used car from Newsom.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 01, 2023 11:21 AM (4I/2K)

I know a lot of donks who hate Newsom. They want another "not a white guy".

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 11:22 AM (Zzbjj)

29 Newsome is slick alright, his hair that is.

Posted by: Javems at April 01, 2023 11:16 AM (AmoqO)

It's the eel snot.
Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2023 11:18 AM (AwYPR)

I'm a Dapper Dan man myself.

Posted by: Ulysses Everett McGill at April 01, 2023 11:23 AM (4I/2K)

30 As much as I hate defeatist talk and attitudes, at this point I don't see a viable R plan to take needed states. Two years is a long time, but if one person, who has little chance of winning the general, is sucking up all the air , I don't see how it will work in the positive fashion for Rs. Bottom line, Rs are more splintered than Ds. And as long that is the case, Rs can't win. Anything.

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 11:23 AM (V13WU)

31 Newsom looks like he sells time share condominiums--the closer.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 11:24 AM (eGTCV)

32 The problem is that the GOP continues to believe that it can win that group over by projecting moderation and "competence," which isn't the case.

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The problem is that the GOP wants Democrats to win.

We saw it in the mid terms. Mitch pulled funding from Arizona and endorsed Murkowski in Alaska.

Not one single written plan for how to deal with inflation was anywhere to be found.

They HATED that they won in 2016. That's why they investigated the president we elected, and why we didn't get any meaningful legislation except eventually tax cuts that will expire.

The problem is they hate us. It was the TEA Party give them victory so they can betray us part II

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 11:24 AM (5D4CW)

33 Will Newsom win? I doubt it, at least not without a big cheat. The only dems who might are Hillary and RFK Jr. Hillary will get the female vote and cheat, RFK Jr will score high with the mRNA haters and reining in pharma and it's fake regulators.
Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 11:21 AM (Zzbjj)


Newsom has more of a chance than Hillary.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 01, 2023 11:24 AM (wmDcS)

34 Gavin Newsom launches political organization to oppose Republican policies in red states
_________

War by other (political) means then. I'd really like to hear what the governors of these red states think about this. Are they going to launch political organizations to oppose Democrat policies in blue state?

Or nah?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 01, 2023 11:25 AM (Q4IgG)

35 13 A hair fire would come in handy.
Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 11:17 AM (eGTCV)

Not as dignified as you think.

Politicin' is a hard, and dangerous job...

Posted by: zombie Ralph Perk at April 01, 2023 11:25 AM (CCSxw)

36 I would not underestimate Newsom. He has all the Hollywood and Silicon money.

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 11:25 AM (V13WU)

37 Newsom has more of a chance than Hillary.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at April 01, 2023 11:24 AM (wmDcS)

I disagree. He's running a failing state, and the CA reparations BS is not playing well with voters he'll need.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 11:26 AM (Zzbjj)

38 I think Newsome would loose California in a Presidential election.
My liberal inlaws damn sure wouldn't vote for him.
Nor would almost anyone who is a PG&E fire victim.
Cali hates PG&E and they own Newsome.

Posted by: Reforger at April 01, 2023 11:26 AM (TnZuw)

39 would not underestimate Newsom. He has all the Hollywood and Silicon money.

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So long as he has the five or so key cities (and he does) he doesn't need a penny.

"electoral college" hahaha

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 11:27 AM (5D4CW)

40
Sack Up, Gav - a limpdick limerick

The irascible Governor Newsome
In his jockeys had an atrophied twosome
It seems that his cajones
Were an utter pair of phonies
Gruesome Newsome would be awesome if he grew some

Posted by: Muldoon at April 01, 2023 11:27 AM (ykeLU)

41 I've been saying this for awhile. Most democrats vote D no matter who the candidate is. They are single issue voters. For some is is abortion. For others it is the environment. Others LGBTQ etc.
It does not matter who the candidate is. They are convinced that the evil Republicans are anti their issue and only a Democrat administration will pay attention to them. Which is true actually. That the other 2/3 rds of the country disagree with them does not enter into the equation.
My guess: Newsom and the witch.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:27 AM (Y+l9t)

42 Newsome solves a lot of problems for the Dems. They'll shunt Biden and Harris to the side to install him as their guy without breaking a sweat. It will hardly be an inconvenience.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at April 01, 2023 11:28 AM (RMN7W)

43 Newsom would make quick work of any GOP candidate, Trump included, and that's why I've always feared him getting into the race

Yes, California's a disaster, the reparations talk will turn off a lot of whites, he's a Covid Hitler, but constant media fellating will neutralize all that

If they could get an ugly, creepy, stupid, racist, wiseass with advanced dementia--and who didn't campaign-- across the finish line, getting this slick piece of plastic through, will be a breeze

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:28 AM (mR6Gs)

44 Muldoon you crack me up

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 11:29 AM (xhxe8)

45 My guess: Newsom and the witch.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:27 AM (Y+l9t)

In other words, the worst case scenario

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:30 AM (mR6Gs)

46 When will someone--perhaps Newsom--come out and say Biden needs to be replaced?

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 11:30 AM (eGTCV)

47 Just imagine the shrieking headlines if the story was "Ron DeSantis launches organization to oppose Democrat policies in Democrat states.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 01, 2023 11:30 AM (q3gwH)

48 What's a Gavin, anyways??

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 01, 2023 11:30 AM (4I/2K)

49 C'mon people. They voted for Biden who hid in his basement, has never been right on a foreign policy issue and has dementia. Yes, they rigged the election but millions of people voted for him just because he's a democrat. What makes you think they won't vote for Newsom who is young, good looking, and runs the biggest state in the Union.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:31 AM (Y+l9t)

50 K.T. you're much to young to be this cynical.
(However you're also complete correct about Newsom, what a dirtbag.)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 11:31 AM (gGlAW)

51 Other than the usual members of the tiny firebrand group of R congresspersons, there have been zero Rs, members or senators, speaking out against the mockery of justice now being aimed at Trump.

None.

Watch tomorrow's network morning "news" shows. They'll all be trumpeting the line "no one is above the law," and they will have some R traitors on like Romney to chime in with them.

Trump is toast. With this action, no matter the outcome, the left was won. They'll get the white house, the house, the senate, and more state govs next year, will move fast to pack SCOTUS, and the gulag will begin.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at April 01, 2023 11:32 AM (KiBMU)

52 My guess: Newsom and the witch.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:27 AM (Y+l9t)


Well, that doesn't narrow things down at all!


Posted by: naturalfake at April 01, 2023 11:32 AM (mm6iK)

53 Perhaps Gavin will be the mechanism through which this country will be finally and irretrievably destroyed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 01, 2023 11:32 AM (q3gwH)

54
Gradually, then suddenly works both ways. Especially when dealing with lemmings. They can gradually walk to the edge of the cliff then suddenly make a 180.

Path to 270 may look impossible right now, but that may gradually, then suddenly change.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2023 11:33 AM (enJYY)

55 I'm more in the camp that we're just not the same country we grew up in and it's now more center-left. And that's now showing up in how we vote.
Posted by: Blago at April 01, 2023 11:12 AM (cOFom)

Yeah well the particular right/left distinction you're making is not useful. Even if your use is definite, which it seems not to be.

Voter fraud has shown that neither party puts forward planks that have national support. Neither party.

DJTs +70mil votes shows that there is a dominant electoral coalition available. A dominance as great as Nixon's own coalition.

Both parties hate the members of that coalition and the policies.

If there were true elections the center of gravity would be around DJTs policies on the federal level.

GOP "conservative" economics disqualifies them from national relevance. DEMs "liberal" social policies disqualifies them.

Neither party has any ability to field winning national pols on their policies.

The country on the whole hasn't moved much over time.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:33 AM (1ais2)

56 The GOP and the never trumpers have so dug in against Trump that they will lose 2024, 2026 and thereafter in their quest to vanquish the MAGA voters (who are the peoples vote btw). They would rather burn everything down if they cannot control us. By destroying Trump they believe they are cutting the head off the movement. So they either collaborate or stand aside and give the Dems carte blanche.

Posted by: Floridachick at April 01, 2023 11:33 AM (EBkdW)

57 if the dims wanted to get behind a CA pol, they would have done soin 2016

Kamala went nowhere

strategically, the dims don't need a CA nominee

but the play is this

Biden unless things go shit

and then what shlub will want the nomination

wouldn't shock me if Bernie come back into the picture

Posted by: REDACTED at April 01, 2023 11:34 AM (us2H3)

58 42 Newsome solves a lot of problems for the Dems. They'll shunt Biden and Harris to the side to install him as their guy without breaking a sweat. It will hardly be an inconvenience.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at April 01, 2023 11:28 AM (RMN7W)

HRC and Barry have a say in that. It will get nasty. Won't be easy.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:34 AM (1ais2)

59 Of course Newsom could falter, say something stupid, miscalculate bigly on some issue--and in the past all these things could derail a sure thing---remember Teddy Kennedy is 1980?---but that was the PAST

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:34 AM (mR6Gs)

60 What makes you think they won't vote for Newsom who is young, good looking, and runs the biggest state in the Union.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:31 AM (Y+l9t)

Because CA is a shithole, Biden did not have that baggage. Yes they rigged the election, and they'd need to do it again for Newsom. Covid lies, reparations, illegal immigration, and global warming will make him need the cheat.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 11:35 AM (Zzbjj)

61 Like college tuition did for the youth vote in 2020, reparations will do for the black vote in 2024. You can bank on that. It’s a carrot for votes, then the door get’s slammed after the election.

Oh, and f-ck Newsome, he’s a scumbag. Saw him in a Starbucks up in Squaw Valley back when he was Lt. Gov. We were the only two in the place early in the AM. I guess I gave off a bad vibe because he looked terrified of me. He’s an effeminate girly-boy for sure. I regret not saying anything to him.

Posted by: Dansgirls at April 01, 2023 11:35 AM (92Wxi)

62 48 What's a Gavin, anyways??
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 01, 2023 11:30 AM (4I/2K)

5 bucks behind the gas station

same as in town

Posted by: REDACTED at April 01, 2023 11:35 AM (us2H3)

63 The Democrats are going to let the Republicans get rid of Biden for them. The House is demanding that the Archives turn over the documents found in various Biden locations including his garage. His garage! If (when) these turn out to be classified, that Hunter had access(which will surely be the case), that they are related to payments from China, they will have grounds to impeach Biden. However, they will likely let him withdraw quietly to his Delaware mansion. Then put Harris in the chair in the middle of primary season against Newsom.
Voila!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:38 AM (Y+l9t)

64 Speaking of nightmares, been without internet until just a few minutes ago. Gah!! I start my day with my coffee and my morons! I was completely thrown off. Now I'm all discombobulated!

Posted by: jewells45 fuck cancer at April 01, 2023 11:38 AM (wagHN)

65 Like college tuition did for the youth vote in 2020, reparations will do for the black vote in 2024. You can bank on that. It’s a carrot for votes, then the door get’s slammed after the election.


Yes, but Reparations talk infuriates whites--and Latinos--in a way that tuition amnesty never did

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:39 AM (mR6Gs)

66 The Democrats are going to let the Republicans get rid of Biden for them. The House is demanding that the Archives turn over the documents found in various Biden locations including his garage. His garage! If (when) these turn out to be classified, that Hunter had access(which will surely be the case), that they are related to payments from China, they will have grounds to impeach Biden. However, they will likely let him withdraw quietly to his Delaware mansion. Then put Harris in the chair in the middle of primary season against Newsom.
Voila!


That's exactly how I see this playing out.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:40 AM (eOEVl)

67 Is black language classes to help them to speak jive?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 01, 2023 11:41 AM (ncXxy)

68 Also, the black vote goes to Democrats no matter who they run

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:41 AM (mR6Gs)

69 One thing I think Gruesome will be more a Totalitarian dictatorship. He certainly seems to run California like one.

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 11:41 AM (xhxe8)

70 Bravo Muldoon!

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (DhOHl)

71 The 'Ettes are in mortal peril of voting Democrat111!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 01, 2023 11:19 AM (mm6iK)

Lol, if we were just voting for hair, I'd give *you* the nomination.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (nC+QA)

72 Newsome solves a lot of problems for the Dems. They'll shunt Biden and Harris to the side to install him as their guy without breaking a sweat. It will hardly be an inconvenience.
Posted by: Joe Kidd at April 01, 2023 11:28 AM (RMN7W)

HRC and Barry have a say in that. It will get nasty. Won't be easy

Newsome's got Aunt Nancy. Maybe she brokers a deal to make Moochelle his running mate. In any event, easy-peasy..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (RMN7W)

73 Trump is doing and saying things that will create detractors among those who gladly voted for him in 2016. There is a limit and Trump is way beyond it. Ds are exploiting the cracks very happily.

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (V13WU)

74 So I'm working my way through the long essay Ace posted yesterday by Siegel entitled A Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century.

He puts the pieces of the disinformation puzzle into place with a compelling historical perspective from 9/11 forward.

It makes one wonder if the large scale manipulation of public opinion and control of the accepted narrative renders actual election results meaningless. He stresses the strategy used against the political "Right" is a counterinsurgency. Ace was right, it is worth a read, if you so choose.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (ykeLU)

75 The Democrats are going to let the Republicans get rid of Biden for them. The House is demanding that the Archives turn over the documents found in various Biden locations including his garage. His garage! If (when) these turn out to be classified, that Hunter had access(which will surely be the case), that they are related to payments from China, they will have grounds to impeach Biden. However, they will likely let him withdraw quietly to his Delaware mansion. Then put Harris in the chair in the middle of primary season against Newsom.
Voila!


I don't want to start another T vs D squabble, but my reasoning is that T generates such polarization that he has no shot at the middle. The media are trying hard to put D in that same category, but so far, I don't think they're successful. T is in a class by himself. IMHO.

Newsom is just greasy and empty down to the gel-marinated roots of his hair. IOW, he's an influencer, and these days, that seems to be enough.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (eOEVl)

76 Yes, but Reparations talk infuriates whites--and Latinos--in a way that tuition amnesty never did
Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:39 AM (mR6Gs)

It is actually unthinkable to propose this in CA. It is electoral suicide. Yet it is happening. CA is the state that saw mexicans ethnically cleanse black neighborhoods by "direct action".

I suppose some Rube Goldberg explanation for how this is possible in a state with democratic elections can be constructed.

I suppose.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (1ais2)

77 Bernie is 84! No one gives a rat's ass about Bernie or the fake Indian or Buttigieg for that matter. They are the old regime.
Make way for the young progressives ready to install the new world order.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:43 AM (Y+l9t)

78 California...where do they get all the money they waste on helping this layabout or that race pimp?

Just like the federales, spending money like Bill Clinton in a Hot Springs whore house can't last forever...or maybe it can.

Just keep printing money and buying votes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 01, 2023 11:44 AM (R/m4+)

79 Whoops. My #75 has the wrong quote.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:44 AM (eOEVl)

80 If Trump could beat Cankles after 8 years of Obama

he can take Biden after his 4 years

Biden will be so gone when the debates roll around

and the war, the people don't want it

you Ron lovers can have him in 4 years

but this is Trump's last go around

Posted by: REDACTED at April 01, 2023 11:45 AM (us2H3)

81 He stresses the strategy used against the political "Right" is a counterinsurgency. Ace was right, it is worth a read, if you so choose.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (ykeLU)

It's more properly a color revolution.

The District sees the US as a foreign vassal country.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:45 AM (1ais2)

82 Maybe Gav will take coke off thr DEA schedule. It's his fave. (Oh, and re: my is Devo canceled comment hours ago - "Whip It")

Posted by: SFGoth at April 01, 2023 11:46 AM (KAi1n)

83 Let's have a candid talk about this reparations committee. It's a committee. It is advisory.
CA has, in its constitution, a requirement for a balanced budget. The numbers that the committee is coming up with eclipse the entire operating budget of the state by several multiples, and will continue to do so annually going forward.
This from a state that was never a slave state.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 11:46 AM (jTmQV)

84 If the infighting among Republicans over Trump or DeSantis is any indication, the infighting among Democrats will also be lit.

The difference is the left will line up with whomever is selected to occupy the White House. Regardless who it is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 01, 2023 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)

85 It makes one wonder if the large scale manipulation of public opinion and control of the accepted narrative renders actual election results meaningless. He stresses the strategy used against the political "Right" is a counterinsurgency. Ace was right, it is worth a read, if you so choose.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (ykeLU)

Best thing I've read in a long time.
Ace is right--
Read the whole thing

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (mR6Gs)

86 Archimedes, you know I agree with you. I would prefer DeSantis. He is young and would be a fresh start for the Republicans. I think the Dems just hope we split the Republican vote in a way that, like Clinton did, can win with under 50%.
I think doing away with the geriatric era would be a good thing.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (Y+l9t)

87 the hand wringing and the anti Trump declaratiions will become more idiotic by the day

He's gonna be the nominee, so you might as well deal with that

Posted by: REDACTED at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (us2H3)

88 Just keep printing money and buying votes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 01, 2023 11:44 AM (R/m4+)

States can't print money and can't run deficits. Dumb rule. But helps DC.

This is a trial run for Fed program. Like the gas stoves.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (1ais2)

89 Why don't they look at my great great grandfather's tax evasion and have me pay the IRS what is owed?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (b/PBX)

90 Yeah, the "MAGA" concept is not xenophobic. My guess is 80% oppose the open borders policy we have now (but many have no clue how bad it is, since they watch MFM).

Same with "most favored nation" China and their closed markets, their massive pollution, their theft of our intellectual properties, their torture/killing of the "other", and their unaccountability of releasing Covid and hiding it. Yet Biden faces zero repercussions for taking millions in bribes and opening our markets for them.

And how many Americans really want teachers pushing gay sex and "non-binary" BS on the children. Again, my guess is maybe 70% are against even the mild versions of pushing the trans ideas into vulnerable kids' heads.

But the power of censorship, and flooding the zone with the left's Narrative, is overwhelming ... along with their destruction of any group that gets some momentum against them (like the Tea Party did).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (Cus5s)

91 Can executive veto override budget considerations in CA and ...can malleable legislature amend the law in favor of reparations ??

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 11:48 AM (V13WU)

92 If Newsom runs, the only way Republicans retake the WH is if the entire party rallies around ONE man, and in 2024 that one man has to be Trump, not DeSantis, Trump.


And we know what the chances of that are

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:49 AM (mR6Gs)

93 If the infighting among Republicans over Trump or DeSantis is any indication, the infighting among Democrats will also be lit.

The difference is the left will line up with whomever is selected to occupy the White House. Regardless who it is.


It doesn't have to be a difference. We can line up behind either of two good candidates if we choose to. Meanwhile, the Dems have to line up behind one of two deeply flawed candidates. I like our position better, if we can just accept the nom, whoever it is.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:49 AM (eOEVl)

94 Perhaps Gavin will be the mechanism through which this country will be finally and irretrievably destroyed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 01, 2023 11:32 AM (q3gwH)

Gavin is the Stay-Puft marshmallow man?

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 01, 2023 11:50 AM (4I/2K)

95 I don't let good hair decide the vote for me. That's insane!
I prefer how they look over all, I mean are the suit jackets well cut and fit properly? Does the pocket square coordinate with the tie in a pleasing manner. Are the shoes appropriate? Do the slacks break properly? Etc....
I mean, show some common sense here!!!

Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 11:50 AM (UUBmN)

96 From this past week at Anzio in 1944:

27 Mar
Just to show how close those things can come, a plane from 1st Armd was hit by a 155 today. Both men killed; plane total wreck.

28 Mar.
[Margin note: 194th Bn, 8 in[ch] Hows, came in.] In our first daylight raid for sometime, Gerry sent over about 40 planes. Bombs dropped in water - no damage. When it was all over AA had downed 8 and Spits 3. Not a bad show.


Friendly fire incident, random artillery shell downs one of our planes. And the big guns they have been waiting for have arrived, the 8 inchers can rival the German 170 mm guns for range.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 01, 2023 11:50 AM (ykeLU)

97 But the power of censorship, and flooding the zone with the left's Narrative, is overwhelming ... along with their destruction of any group that gets some momentum against them (like the Tea Party did).
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (Cus5s)

Nah. The narrative doesn't move the needle. It creates a fig leaf to hide the cheating behind. And justify action by pols post cheat.

Even more now than pre-DJT are anti-immigration.

Color revolutions do not work by changing minds.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:50 AM (1ais2)

98 It seems to me people haven't quite grasped the situation. We're still arguing about whether this politician or that one is going to put together a winning strategy or not.

If 2020 and 2022 showed us anything, it's that candidates don't matter. It's who cheats better.

That being said, blaming inflation on price gouging works, because voters are stupid. Period.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 11:50 AM (5aiaB)

99 If the state of CA could print its own currency all kinds of things would be possible.
But last time I looked, it can't.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 11:50 AM (jTmQV)

100 Archimedes, you know I agree with you. I would prefer DeSantis. He is young and would be a fresh start for the Republicans. I think the Dems just hope we split the Republican vote in a way that, like Clinton did, can win with under 50%.
I think doing away with the geriatric era would be a good thing.


I think it will not help us if they have a young candidate, and we have an old one. People are really sick of geriatrics.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:51 AM (eOEVl)

101 89 Why don't they look at my great great grandfather's tax evasion and have me pay the IRS what is owed?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at April 01, 2023 11:47 AM (b/PBX)

you have a very good point !!

Posted by: IRS at April 01, 2023 11:51 AM (us2H3)

102
He stresses the strategy used against the political "Right" is a counterinsurgency. Ace was right, it is worth a read, if you so choose.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM


In 'Reader View' in Firefox

A Guide to Understanding the Hoax of the Century
by Jacob Siegel
77-98 minutes
Will read later.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 01, 2023 11:51 AM (enJYY)

103 And the Reparations gimmick, it's probably a big show and won't pay out little to the clients but will pay out well to lawyers and bureaucracy.

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 11:51 AM (xhxe8)

104 t makes one wonder if the large scale manipulation of public opinion and control of the accepted narrative renders actual election results meaningless. He stresses the strategy used against the political "Right" is a counterinsurgency. Ace was right, it is worth a read, if you so choose.
Posted by: Muldoon at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (ykeLU)

yes, and what are Rs doing about it ? almost nothing. they are always lated to the game. 2020 was not decided in 2020, it started in 2017/2018, targeting purple states and so on early on with Zuk's, and Bezos' money. Dems did not let Hillary continue being the face of the party either, as much as she wanted and tried.

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 11:52 AM (V13WU)

105 On what planet is Trump inarticulate?

Newsom is scary for one reason only: he is THE Golden Child of the Deep State.

It was known from Day 1 that his recall would fail…even the cheesiest Hollywood gossip columns called it and gave his connection to the right caste of politicians as the reason.

It ( the recall) was not ‘permitted’ to happen.

The Deep State already succeeded in the Color Revolution in 2020 and overthrew our government.

I am Trump or Die at this point.

Posted by: RobdinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is still our duly elected president at April 01, 2023 11:52 AM (l0Cy4)

106 It doesn't have to be a difference. We can line up behind either of two good candidates if we choose to. Meanwhile, the Dems have to line up behind one of two deeply flawed candidates. I like our position better, if we can just accept the nom, whoever it is.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 11:49 AM (eOEVl)

We can't line up "behind either" if only one opposes the current GOP.

It's an elephant in the room Ron has to deal with if he hopes to preserve DJTs coalition.

He might have another coalition in mind. Idk what that would be or how it wins.

But expecting DJT voters to vote for a candidate that is not explicitly against the GOPe is a pipe dream.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 11:54 AM (1ais2)

107 Newsom is one creepy-looking fuck. You just know he has dead children stacked in his crawl space.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 11:56 AM (tkR6S)

108 If the state of CA could print its own currency all kinds of things would be possible.
But last time I looked, it can't.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 11:50 AM (jTmQV)

Sure it can. Anybody can. They only reason they don't is because everyone decided one type of fake money was more legit than all the other types of fake money.

As soon as one state decides to opt out of the federal reserve, and shows it can work, the whole system collapses.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 11:57 AM (5aiaB)

109 65,000 have moved out of San Francisco, where Newsom was once mayor.
The loss of tax revenue is showing up.
Deficit swells to $750 million.

https://tinyurl.com/4wkz59wm

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 12:00 PM (jTmQV)

110 As soon as one state decides to opt out of the federal reserve, and shows it can work, the whole system collapses.
Posted by: BurtTC
---
Texas has its own gold bullion depository. It's a start. I don't believe any other state has one that is not federally controlled.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 12:00 PM (UUBmN)

111 Gavin Newsom lies with the consummate ease displayed by Adam Schiff, sans bulging eyes.

Barack Obama also shares this trait.

Something noticed after just a cursory look at all 3.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 01, 2023 12:00 PM (KATBx)

112 Newsom is one creepy-looking fuck. You just know he has dead children stacked in his crawl space.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 11:56 AM (tkR6S)

Nah. He's more like the kind who will use a live body, whatever his type (I don't know), kill it, then have his staff dispose of it. No one talks, no one asks questions, they just get rid of it, and Gruesome Newsom never thinks about the body ever again, because he doesn't have to.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:02 PM (5aiaB)

113 Most politicians by nature are narcissists and sociopaths, if not outright psychopaths.... just saying.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 12:02 PM (UUBmN)

114 107 Newsom is one creepy-looking fuck. You just know he has dead children stacked in his crawl space.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 11:56 AM (tkR6S)

My feeling too.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 12:02 PM (eGTCV)

115 As soon as one state decides to opt out of the federal reserve, and shows it can work, the whole system collapses.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 11:57 AM (5aiaB)

Nah. It is illegal. There is no "opting out" of the USD. Plus, DC would invade.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:03 PM (1ais2)

116 As soon as one state decides to opt out of the federal reserve, and shows it can work, the whole system collapses.
Posted by: BurtTC
---
Texas has its own gold bullion depository. It's a start. I don't believe any other state has one that is not federally controlled.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 12:00 PM (UUBmN)

I'm not following all too closely, but I do believe there are some countries that have gone to bitcoin as currency, and I assume any state that tried that would quickly find out how powerful (or weak) the federal system is. It would be taking a chance, but it could be tried.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:03 PM (5aiaB)

117 As soon as one state decides to opt out of the federal reserve, and shows it can work, the whole system collapses.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 11:57 AM (5aiaB)

Nah. It is illegal. There is no "opting out" of the USD. Plus, DC would invade.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:03 PM (1ais2)

Illegal. Such a quaint word.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:04 PM (5aiaB)

118 > I think it will not help us if they have a young candidate, and we have an old one. People are really sick of geriatrics.
____________

Agreed. Yet, *biden persists. The effort to remove him for consideration in 24 is going to be interesting. Presuming the Democrats go down that road.

And then, what to do with Harris?

As obsessed as the left is with optics those are particularly difficult problems to solve.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 01, 2023 12:04 PM (Q4IgG)

119 On what planet is Trump inarticulate?


I suppose it depends on your preferred speaking style. When he's riffing, he's all over the place, and can seem unfocused. It isn't my cup of tea. OTOH, DeSantis is more linear, although still somewhat unfocused, but much less engaging as a speaker.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 12:05 PM (eOEVl)

120 Newsome looks like a younger, more slimy Mitt Romney.

I know, I didn't think anyone could be more slimy than that anal carbuncle either. And yet....... Here we are.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 01, 2023 12:05 PM (Wy1BU)

121 Gavin Newsom looks like a cross between Max Headroom and every bad guy from a 90s action movie.

Posted by: STV at April 01, 2023 12:05 PM (/dqoc)

122 Newsom is slick vacuous pretty boy. He might be the next generation leftist leader but there is a heck of a lot of time between now and 11/24. Everybody here is arguing DeSantis vTrump on the republican side and Biden v various other murderous psychopaths on the dem side. We all have noidea if any of them will be alive or if any of us will. Let the dems keep destroying dem strongholds (I live in one) and the worm may return by 11/24

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 01, 2023 12:05 PM (pAItQ)

123 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 01, 2023 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

124 Illegal. Such a quaint word.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:04 PM (5aiaB)

Howitzers and f-35s are quaint? The FBI is quaint?

Was Antietam quaint?

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:06 PM (1ais2)

125 Most politicians by nature are narcissists and sociopaths, if not outright psychopaths.... just saying.
Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 12:02 PM (UUBmN)

Stick with narcissists are sociopaths.

Most psychopaths get a bad rap, because there are SOME psychopaths who are murderous killers, but they're the exception. Most psychopaths are relatively harmless. They lack the capacity to feel, but don't have the drive to harm others (necessarily) the way sociopaths and narcissists do.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:06 PM (5aiaB)

126 Everyone hates Newsom CA outside of CA.
Newsom has no chance.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 01, 2023 12:07 PM (DMyTF)

127 And then, what to do with Harris?

I think Sharon hit the nail on the head. They'll blackmail Biden into stepping down for "health reasons" and then say that Harris should compete in the primaries so that people can have their voices heard, knowing full well she'll face plant. NOBODY likes Harris.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 01, 2023 12:07 PM (eOEVl)

128 Emperor Norton (an early legendary SF elite who became financially ruined in a commodities deal) printed his own money with his visage and his title "Emperor of California, Protector of Mexico" on it. He was a homeless bum before it was fashionable.
Occasionally I visit his grave in Colma.
Along with those of Mr. and Ms. Wyatt Earp and others.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 12:08 PM (jTmQV)

129 Illegal. Such a quaint word.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:04 PM (5aiaB)

Howitzers and f-35s are quaint? The FBI is quaint?

Was Antietam quaint?
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:06 PM (1ais2)

You're missing the point, intentionally, apparently.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:08 PM (5aiaB)

130 Schellenberger voted for Biden and is a leftist. And a hypocrite and johnny-come-lately. He has as much credibility with me as Newsom.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 01, 2023 12:08 PM (265/A)

131 Call me silly or delusional, but I don't believe we are voting our way out of this. It's all part of God's plan and going accordingly. If you are a believer, you know how it all ends. So, I try not to get too worked up about.
That being said, I also don't believe it's part of God's plan to sit by passively accepting everything coming our way. We still have to fight against evil daily, it's what Christians do!

Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 12:09 PM (UUBmN)

132 Serious question

Will Newsom answer any question any time, unscripted, because he knows a lot about a lot of stuff and genuinely believes in what he's talking about?

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 12:09 PM (5D4CW)

133 "Color revolutions do not work by changing minds." Posted by: Thesokorus

yeah the Big Cheat is maybe the biggest problem. But color revolutions pit groups against each other, hence ignoring the real problem of the Evil and Corrupt commie state.

The left's march through institutions, including schools and "news" media has molded much of American thinking. But indeed they count more on Hate against Trump and "transphobe" Christians (and all the other xyz-phobes they use) .... than any argument to support open borders or grooming.

They "change minds" by deception, calling good bad, and evil good. So Hillary/Biden taking big money bribes from Russia/China is covered up, but the BigLie of Trump-Russia is constant.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:09 PM (Cus5s)

134 40 acres and a tractor? Does the tractor come with spinner rims?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:09 PM (lz5hY)

135 I'm a heterosexual man but I think there's nothing attractive about Gavin Newsom. He looks like every ambulance chasing shyster lawyer who's ever walked the earth.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 12:09 PM (eGTCV)

136 I've hated Newsom ever since he confessed that he was banging the wife of his best friend. I mean, really, what type of man can even consider that?
His present wife is a real doozie, too. She is responsible for at least half the hare brained ideas that float over the transom.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 12:11 PM (jTmQV)

137 Rs can't wait 'till 2024 to develop a winning strategy; they should have one regardless of who runs. I agree that a lot can happen before 2024, Josh Hawley could be the nominee for all we know, but the strategy work should have begun a few years back. And what did they do ? elected that loser Ronna McDaniel WITH TRUMP'S BLESSING AND SUPPORT.

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 12:11 PM (V13WU)

138 You're missing the point, intentionally, apparently.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:08 PM (5aiaB)

Possible. I am in favor of States having currencies. And running deficits. And acknowledge the absurdity of our tax system and its unconstitutionality.

But as my brilliant tax prof said: your arguments about this are moot. They have an army and will put you in prison.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:11 PM (1ais2)

139 Great Job ! Tremendous !

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 12:12 PM (V13WU)

140 This Newsome thing...as April Fool's pranks go, it's pretty good.


Right?

Right????

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 12:12 PM (anj39)

141 Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 12:09 PM (eGTCV)


I'm a heterosexual woman and I think he is hideous.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 01, 2023 12:12 PM (Wy1BU)

142 Everyone hates Newsom CA outside of CA.
Newsom has no chance.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 01, 2023 12:07 PM (DMyTF)

A whole bunch of California is going to get washed into the sea this Spring, when the massive snowpack in the Sierras melts, and there are no dams to impound the runoff.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 12:12 PM (tkR6S)

143 Occasionally I visit his grave in Colma.
Along with those of Mr. and Ms. Wyatt Earp and others.
Posted by: gourmand

I'll take things I wish I didn't know for 400 Alex.
'The town was founded as a necropolis in 1924.'

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:12 PM (gGlAW)

144 So Trump is all for Ronna McDaniel, and against...Ron DeSantis. Hmmm. There is a nice cliff coming up....

Posted by: runner at April 01, 2023 12:13 PM (V13WU)

145 40 acres and a tractor? Does the tractor come with spinner rims?
Posted by: bill in arkansas

It's electric and has a 2ah battery included.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:13 PM (gGlAW)

146 They "change minds" by deception, calling good bad, and evil good. So Hillary/Biden taking big money bribes from Russia/China is covered up, but the BigLie of Trump-Russia is constant.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:09 PM (Cus5s)

No minds are changed. At most some marginal number move to the other camp in offsetting amnts.

It creates an illusion DCs policy preferences exist in suff # to justify direct action on all fronts within DC itself.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:14 PM (1ais2)

147 Newsom looks like the very definition of low life lounge lizard scum bag.

Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 12:14 PM (eGTCV)

148 Reaboi is a fool and Newsome has zero popularity in the country, he's barely liked in California, one of the most leftist places on earth. He has no record to run on from there, either, its all bad news.

But again: who counts the votes? The Dems win no matter who they run. Joe Biden was one of the most disliked presidential candidates ever and they claim he got a quarter of the country's votes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 01, 2023 12:15 PM (0hOvj)

149 Newsom has no chance.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 01, 2023 12:07 PM (DMyTF)


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Posted by: Elections Directors in PA, AZ, MI, etc. at April 01, 2023 12:15 PM (anj39)

150 Colma will be my final resting place. Everything is arranged. That will be my last move. Hopefully in the distant future but it could be anytime, same as any of us.
Having said that, I wish all of you a great day. Maybe I'll check in on the pet thread.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 01, 2023 12:15 PM (jTmQV)

151 Newsom looks like the very definition of low life lounge lizard scum bag.
Posted by: N. Lurker

AKA.... Mitt Romney!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 01, 2023 12:16 PM (Wy1BU)

152 The sad part of the reparations scheme is most blacks will blow the cash on "designer" stuff so they look good, fancy cars, a house they can't maintain, drugs/alcohol, etc. then they will sell the land for a fraction of i'st worth and end up where they started. All within 5-10 years on the outside. There will be a few who do the smart thing and wind up better off but the majority will do the wrong things just like many lottery winners.

Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 12:16 PM (UUBmN)

153 It's kinda creepy that every damn spam email advertising a sale is now starting with the phrase "No Joke"....

Seriously, stop it, corporate America. Stop aping a demented pervert. It's offputting and squicky.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 01, 2023 12:17 PM (9UlRk)

154 Time to buy stock in Brylcreem?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 01, 2023 12:17 PM (UFPsS)

155 They "change minds" by deception, calling good bad, and evil good. So Hillary/Biden taking big money bribes from Russia/China is covered up, but the BigLie of Trump-Russia is constant.

-

It's a big part of why they have to cheat.

Heritage America rejects this. Interestingly, illegals accept that this is just how government is supposed to work.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 12:17 PM (5D4CW)

156 I'm a heterosexual woman and I find nothing attractive about Newsom, but I felt the same way about Clinton. Yet there were women salivating to put on knee pads for Clinton.
Democrat women are not 'Ettes.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 12:17 PM (Y+l9t)

157 Newsom looks like the very definition of low life lounge lizard scum bag.
Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 12:14 PM (eGTCV)

Hey! You take that back!

Posted by: Leisure Suit Larry at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (4I/2K)

158 They have a media event with a black dude fresh outta Watts getting the first reparations package. Here's the check, and here's the deed for your forty acres complete with tractor. And the black dude goes full Samuel L. Jackson "what the %^^&&## do you *^**## want me to do with this #$$#%%? You crazy or sumpin?".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (lz5hY)

159 Newsom and Olsteen are cut from the same cloth. Slick talking snake oil salesmen

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (/6GbT)

160 But as my brilliant tax prof said: your arguments about this are moot. They have an army and will put you in prison.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:11 PM (1ais2)

Maybe. That's possible, but I don't think it's inevitable. If these last three years have shown us anything, it's that anything is possible.

Having the military on your side is definitely a plus, until you don't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (5aiaB)

161 The 'Ettes are in mortal peril of voting Democrat111!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 01, 2023 11:19 AM (mm6iK)

Lol, if we were just voting for hair, I'd give *you* the nomination.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 01, 2023 11:42 AM (nC+QA)



Alright! That's one!

The naturalfake Landslide of 2024 has started!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (mm6iK)

162 and squicky.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

I have never seen this word. Please to explain?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (Wy1BU)

163 It seems like since 2019 everything has been just one big April Fools joke. #PleaseMakeItStop

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 01, 2023 12:19 PM (MFZ8i)

164 Time to buy stock in Brylcreem?
Posted by: Itinerant

Lard.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:19 PM (gGlAW)

165 How many waterfowl would day if Newsom"s head fell into the ocean?

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 01, 2023 12:21 PM (eGTCV)

166 Time to get a life.
Have a good one.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 12:21 PM (Y+l9t)

167 164 Time to buy stock in Brylcreem?
Posted by: Itinerant

Lard.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Genco Pura olive oil.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 01, 2023 12:21 PM (Wy1BU)

168 Did the tranny freaks abide by the cancellation or did some of them still show up in DC?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (u73oe)

169 154 Brylcreem, a little dab will do ya
Brylcreem, you'll look so debonair
Brylcreem, the gals will all pursue you

Damn, I forgot the rest of it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (lz5hY)

170 The D's will run whomever has the most has the PAC money. I expect that to be gruesome.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (Eeb9P)

171 A whole bunch of California is going to get washed into the sea this Spring, when the massive snowpack in the Sierras melts, and there are no dams to impound the runoff.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 12:12 PM (tkR6S)

If there was justice in this world, all the rich and famous of Californica would be sitting in their homes when The Slide happens, and all the decent, hard working folk would be vacationing in Colorado and Montana or wherever.

Unfortunately, there is not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (5aiaB)

172 How many waterfowl would day if Newsom"s head fell into the ocean?
Posted by: That Northern skulker
----
About the same as the wind mills....

Posted by: lin-duh at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (UUBmN)

173 I have never seen this word. Please to explain?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (Wy1BU

Squick-inducing.

I don't know... call it a blend of icky and squirmy. Squicky. Intensely uncomfortable. Danger Will Robinson. That sort of thing.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (9UlRk)

174 >>I'm a heterosexual woman and I find nothing attractive about Newsom, but I felt the same way about Clinton. Yet there were women salivating to put on knee pads for Clinton.
Democrat women are not 'Ettes.


THIS.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (EdLEa)

175 Having the military on your side is definitely a plus, until you don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:18 PM (5aiaB)

Look what we did yo Gaddaffi.

Xi has put CHN on a war footing because he intends to price a small amnt of oil in yuan.

The issue is very very far downstream of others.

As of today, they have howitzers and f 35s and the FBI.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (1ais2)

176 President Newsom
It makes my hair stand on end
But clearly not his.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 12:23 PM (anj39)

177 It makes my hair stand on end

Posted by: Diogenes

Braggart.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:24 PM (gGlAW)

178 The guy is like Joel Osteen, you wonder how people can be so dense as to follow these people and yet there you are. Newsome is the one who is destined to take us over the edge.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 01, 2023 12:24 PM (oWBc3)

179 Squick-inducing.

I don't know... call it a blend of icky and squirmy. Squicky. Intensely uncomfortable. Danger Will Robinson. That sort of thing.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Gracias. I like this word. It means exactly what it sounds like it should.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 01, 2023 12:25 PM (Wy1BU)

180 It makes my hair stand on end

Posted by: Diogenes

Braggart.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:24 PM (gGlAW)


Hey!
I only have three, but they look good!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 12:25 PM (anj39)

181 And to think Newsome saw Kimberly nekkid.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:26 PM (lz5hY)

182 As of today, they have howitzers and f 35s and the FBI.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (1ais2)

And more and more, they have faggots and trannys to run them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 12:26 PM (tkR6S)

183 Squicky is a perfectly cromulent word.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:26 PM (u73oe)

184 Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

Posted by: Zombie Hunter Thompson! at April 01, 2023 12:26 PM (2tUFv)

185 It seems like since 2019 everything has been just one big April Fools joke. #PleaseMakeItStop
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at April 01, 2023 12:19 PM (MFZ8i)

I distinctly remember thinking 2019 was one crazy year, and that it would be impossible to top it.

Boy, was I wrong. I don't even remember what happened that year to make me think so.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:26 PM (5aiaB)

186 ❗❗ Notice, 1 Apr:

To fight climate change, all ceilings must be painted black. This applies to all Federal buildings, and those of any company or organization accepting Federal monies.

Gov. Noisesome extends this regulation to all California state buildings, but not private businesses. For now…

Posted by: Federal Bureau of Regulatory Regulating at April 01, 2023 12:27 PM (E90oM)

187 BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Posted by: Elections Directors in PA, AZ, MI, etc. at April 01, 2023 12:15 PM (anj39)

Yep.

Whoever the D is they get 300+ electoral votes.

The Ds swept everything in MI and PA. Total control of both states. AZ is unwinnable. Some want to ignore 2020 and the historic red tsunami of 2022.

People who say when T or RDS becomes president, never show which states get them to 270. Because they can't.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:27 PM (hDfwo)

188 > It makes my hair stand on end

Posted by: Diogenes

#MeToo

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at April 01, 2023 12:27 PM (PiwSw)

189 Cali reparations will be a cudgle to beat anyone who gets out of line. It will happen and take decades.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 01, 2023 12:28 PM (Eeb9P)

190 "That being said, I also don't believe it's part of God's plan to sit by passively accepting everything coming our way. We still have to fight against evil daily, it's what Christians do!" Posted by: lin-duh

Yeah, as I have read it, Christians avoid the real "tribulation" by being in the "gathering together". Real Christians are not on earth for the "end times". IF Christians claimed their rights as sons of God, we could rise above the earthly evil.

But the OT is for our learning, and we learned there are often times when God's people were just a remnant, and they even had to hide in caves at times. So given the commie pope and lesbian protestant ministers, it will require a real Awakening to bring liberty back.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:28 PM (Cus5s)

191 And more and more, they have faggots and trannys to run them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 12:26 PM (tkR6S)

Yep. Makes their trigger finger even more itchy. For a lot of reasons.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:30 PM (1ais2)

192 The D's will run whomever has the most has the PAC money. I expect that to be gruesome.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at April 01, 2023 12:22 PM (Eeb9P)

Or, whoever has the most PAC money is the one they will run.

Voters won't decide, of course.

What I'm assuming is there are people calculating who forwards their agenda most effectively, and at this point I'm not entirely sure that's NOT Joe Biden.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:30 PM (5aiaB)

193 @152 the thing that cracks me up is that Newsom put the reparations land mine in place and now when the issue is coming to a gross head , he is running around the country attacking republicans. This reparations explosion will doom him and his aspirations. The reparations crowd is getting their hopes up and when the rug is pulled out from under them , BOOM!

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 01, 2023 12:31 PM (QQ9ya)

194 People who say when T or RDS becomes president, never show which states get them to 270. Because they can't.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:27 PM (hDfwo)

—————

What is the purpose of this comment? To sow despair? If you believe there is no hope, why are you here?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:31 PM (u73oe)

195 People who say when T or RDS becomes president, never show which states get them to 270. Because they can't.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:27 PM (hDfwo)

+70mil votes says otherwise absent an admission of iron clad system wide vote fraud.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:32 PM (1ais2)

196 So given the commie pope and lesbian protestant ministers, it will require a real Awakening to bring liberty back.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:28 PM (Cus5s)

I haven't been following the story, but the Fresh Pope has been sick, and at this stage of times, I just sorta assume they're done with the guy, and plan to kill him off.

Or maybe he's just an old man, and he can get sick. I'm not sure which.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:32 PM (5aiaB)

197 What is the purpose of this comment? To sow despair? If you believe there is no hope, why are you here?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:31 PM (u73oe)

Rove bot. This is how they "win".

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:32 PM (1ais2)

198 Every time there is a hike in gas prices, some State DA calls for an investigation. The Oil & Gas industry has to be the most investigated industry sector of all times. No one has ever found anything. The elected class really are pretty stupid.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 01, 2023 12:32 PM (K58O6)

199 >>"That being said, I also don't believe it's part of God's plan to sit by passively accepting everything coming our way. We still have to fight against evil daily, it's what Christians do!"


Because there are so many others who are open to the word of God. You're likely not going to get through to the angry tranny who's punching people in protest, so focus on those who will listen.
https://tinyurl.com/u7djsuy7

Posted by: Lizzy at April 01, 2023 12:33 PM (EdLEa)

200 Posted by: illiniwek at April 01

Count me as a non woke, not Lesbian Protestant pastor/- and no, I do not debate the ordination of women. I know people feel strongly about this, but you're not going to convince me.and I would die for my congregation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 01, 2023 12:33 PM (BcMbj)

201 My guess: Newsom and the witch.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 01, 2023 11:27 AM (Y+l9t)

WHitler here in MI? I agree

Posted by: clutch at April 01, 2023 12:35 PM (9UmRs)

202 What is the purpose of this comment?

..

To stop spreading false hope?

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:35 PM (hDfwo)

203 o stop spreading false hope?

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:35 PM (hDfwo

Thanks Dad

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:35 PM (1ais2)

204 Glock has discontinued the G17 MOS to be replaced by the ugly G47 MOS. Disappoint.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 01, 2023 12:36 PM (DMyTF)

205 People who say when T or RDS becomes president, never show which states get them to 270. Because they can't.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:27 PM (hDfwo)


That's nice, dear.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:36 PM (xhaym)

206 To stop spreading false hope?

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:35 PM (hDfwo)

—————

If you have given up all hope, fine. Why is it important to you that others do the same?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:36 PM (u73oe)

207 "No minds are changed. At most some marginal number move to the other camp in offsetting amnts."

the mind changing has to be against both parties, recognizing the Uniparty, and uniting against it. This happens to some degree with guys like Taibi, maybe Rogan, Russell Brand ... The illusion of "one camp or the other" is what needs to break.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:37 PM (Cus5s)

208 What is the purpose of this comment? To sow despair? If you believe there is no hope, why are you here?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:31 PM (u73oe)

Rove bot. This is how they "win".
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:32 PM (1ais2)

Going to be a lot of those over the next year and a half.

New nics. Sorry folks, if I don't recognize the nic, I'm already assuming you have an agenda that ISN'T about having reasonable discussions of the topic at hand.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (5aiaB)

209 People who say when T or RDS becomes president, never show which states get them to 270. Because they can't.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:27 PM (hDfwo)


The dems cheated small (a normal.election) for Hillary. They cheated big for Biden. They'll do what ever it takes now to keep power. They won't even hide it. And when they do, conservatives will have a big decision to make.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (anj39)

210 Why is it important to you that others do the same?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:

To focus on other potential solutions.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (hDfwo)

211 fine. Why is it important to you that others do the same?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:36 PM (u73oe)

We've already seen deSantis supporters use a similar argument. Probably ind of Rove. It is simply the most logical reason to support Ron at this moment in time. If things are that bad why not vote Ron and go out unsullied yolo

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (1ais2)

212 What is the purpose of this comment? To sow despair? If you believe there is no hope, why are you here?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:31 PM (u73oe)


He (or it) wants to hurt people and make them as miserable as he (or it) is.

He (or it) will challenge this statement and argue that he (or it) is the realist and that everyone else is delusional or a GOPe symp to believe otherwise.

He (or it) has gotten the message that just insulting people to make them feel bad is a good way to get banned.

The best response it to say, "that's nice dear" and go about your conversation like a mom drinking coffee with her friends when her boy barges in to complain that the neighbor is not playing fair.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:40 PM (xhaym)

213 To focus on other potential solutions.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (hDfwo)

*passes out disposable sunglasses*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 01, 2023 12:40 PM (9UlRk)

214 I see a few snarky comments but you are validating my position.

No one is mentioning states that get us to 270.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:41 PM (hDfwo)

215 To focus on other potential solutions.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (hDfwo)

——————

Then spell it out. So far, all you’re offering is despair and defeatism.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 01, 2023 12:42 PM (u73oe)

216 " I know people feel strongly about this, but you're not going to convince me. and I would die for my congregation."

there are still a lot of faithful ministers and (I assume) priests, but the top down nature of the institutional church has controlled a lot of doctrine, and imposed it on the local churches.

Some have worked around that, and maybe some denominations are much less "woke" ... there does seem to be a ground swell of Christian "revival", or so I hear.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:42 PM (Cus5s)

217 To focus on other potential solutions.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (hDfwo

Glow detected?

Pls tell us Dad what we should do. We can take it. Shoot it straight no chaser.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:42 PM (1ais2)

218 All of us old libertarians and conservatives have known for fifty years that if there was ever an American Fuehrer that he would be someone who looked like JFK, not someone who looked like Hitler.

Posted by: MartynWW at April 01, 2023 12:42 PM (Ur3df)

219 Glock has discontinued the G17 MOS to be replaced by the ugly G47 MOS. Disappoint.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at April 01, 2023 12:36 PM (DMyTF)

Kinda like changing how you part your hair.

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2023 12:42 PM (AwYPR)

220 No one is mentioning states that get us to 270.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:41 PM (hDfwo)

And you haven't told me which pot i should put this cordyline in to maximize the impact of the foliage.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at April 01, 2023 12:42 PM (9UlRk)

221 People who say when T or RDS becomes president, never show which states get them to 270. Because they can't.
Posted by: I've got bad

Time for Xiden and cohorts to come back and bother the site.
Sigh

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:43 PM (gGlAW)

222 No one is mentioning states that get us to 270.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:41 PM (hDfwo)

Was there massive system wide cheating against DJT in the last federal election?

If there was cheating how extensive was it?

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:43 PM (1ais2)

223 passes out disposable sunglasses*

Posted by: Warai-otoko at 

Nope.

We'll get em in 24, right?

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:44 PM (hDfwo)

224 I suppose some Rube Goldberg explanation for how this is possible in a state with democratic elections can be constructed.

1.5 million voter registrations were recently ordered by a judge to be thrown out by Los Angeles County. Trump would've won California in 2020 if all of those were Dem votes (which is a reasonable assumption). And that also covers why they easily got signatures to recall Newsome but the actual election went wildly the other way.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 01, 2023 12:44 PM (X4R3E)

225 Anyone who says " I've got bad news for you" is either not posting under the original handle or is a paid troll and not worth reading anymore.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 01, 2023 12:44 PM (qBzeJ)

226 I see a few snarky comments but you are validating my position.

No one is mentioning states that get us to 270.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:41 PM (hDfwo)

A word of advice, chum, because this argument of yours has been used on the internets... and even BEFORE the internets for eons... just because nobody is arguing with you, doesn't mean they can't. It just means they've chosen not to.

If that feels like winning to you, fine. Go with that.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:44 PM (5aiaB)

227 The Oil & Gas industry has to be the most investigated industry sector of all times. No one has ever found anything.

California's just covering for the fact that they made the idiotic decision to demand a unique formulation of gasoline, which walls them off from the rest of the world gasoline market.

Every time a refinery in California needs maintenance, gas prices spike, since you can't bring in gasoline from elsewhere.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 01, 2023 12:45 PM (2tUFv)

228 If things are that bad why not vote Ron and go out unsullied yolo
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (1ais2)


Why not adopt the election plan of the Libertarian Party? "At least we have our integrity" No actual wins, so the money (other than the bucks sucked off by Henchman and the LP Nomenklatura) was not wasted on compromise positions, right? No compromise.

Actually the LP party election plan is sort of like the business plan of Max Bialystock and Leo Bloom. Somehow I expect a Rove plan to be very similar.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:45 PM (xhaym)

229 Then spell it out. So far, all you’re offering is despair and defeatism.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at 

General strike with a list of demands to start serious negotiations.

Will it work? Dunno. But that's my proposal. Otherwise we ride the downward spiral.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:46 PM (hDfwo)

230 No one is mentioning states that get us to 270.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:41 PM (hDfwo)


That's nice dear

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:46 PM (xhaym)

231 To focus on other potential solutions.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:38 PM (hDfwo)

Buttsex isn't a solution, sport.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 01, 2023 12:46 PM (tkR6S)

232
General strike with a list of demands to start serious negotiations.

Posted by: I've got bad

Is that you Roy?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:46 PM (gGlAW)

233 Did ace or the cobs post anything about the guy that got 10 years for a meme?

https://tinyurl.com/4rxjx9zm

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2023 12:47 PM (AwYPR)

234 Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023

Yes. The institutional church and the hierarchy has mostly sold out-sadly,-and they could have made such a positivecdifference during Covid, for instance.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 01, 2023 12:47 PM (qBzeJ)

235 " but the Fresh Pope has been sick, and at this stage of times, I just sorta assume they're done with the guy, and plan to kill him off."

I think he is better now ... and Lumpy Federman is released from the hospital as well.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:48 PM (Cus5s)

236 Did ace or the cobs post anything about the guy that got 10 years for a meme?
Posted by: BignJames

1st amendment? What's that got to do with it?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:48 PM (gGlAW)

237 America is in an existential struggle for democracy.

Everybody who ever taught or had to take a "Twentieth Century Philosophy" intro should get together and impose a special tax on sophomoric existential statements.

Existentialism is supposed to mean something. At the very least, you should have to smoke a pipe and ride in a Facel-Vega. With nausea, and a stranger, to a Plague.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at April 01, 2023 12:48 PM (jYCXf)

238 Will it work? Dunno. But that's my proposal. Otherwise we ride the downward spiral.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:46 PM (hDfwo)


That's nice dear

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:48 PM (xhaym)

239 204 219 I know a guy who collects Glocks. He has the most boring gun collection in the world. PS I have an ancient in Glock years in my nightstand.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:49 PM (lz5hY)

240 Did ace or the cobs post anything about the guy that got 10 years for a meme?

Nobody reads the content, except for when Ace accidentally posts busty lesbian pron.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 01, 2023 12:49 PM (X4R3E)

241 Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2023 12:47 PM (AwYPR

Well, I don't know if they posted it. I haven't been around for a lot of threads, but I read it earlier and it is appalling, Thx for lifting it up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 01, 2023 12:49 PM (qBzeJ)

242 If Trump R gets the nomination, this guy is D's ballots are gonna run over him like a freight train

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 01, 2023 12:50 PM (llON8)

243 That's nice dear

Posted by: Kindltot at 

Good luck with your Gope pom poms.

T has been impeached twice and indicted.

McCarthy won't even allow a Biden impeachment.

Best.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:51 PM (hDfwo)

244 Actually the LP party election plan is sort of like the business plan of Max Bialystock and Leo Bloom. Somehow I expect a Rove plan to be very similar.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:45 PM (xhaym)

How it will play out, I don't know, but the LP has been completely taken over by people who categorically reject the strategies the LP has been using for years.

It'll look different next year. How? I don't know.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:51 PM (5aiaB)

245 238 Will it work? Dunno. But that's my proposal. Otherwise we ride the downward spiral.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:46 PM (hDfwo)

Thanks for making ppl work to drag your dumbass idea outta you.

Jfc dude

Almost makes me think that isn't what you are all about.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:51 PM (1ais2)

246
McCarthy won't even allow a Biden impeachment.

Best.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at April 01, 2023 12:51 PM (hDfwo)


That's nice, dear. You should try to improve your reading speed to keep up better

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:52 PM (xhaym)

247 I know a guy who collects Glocks. He has the most boring gun collection in the world. PS I have an ancient in Glock years in my nightstand.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:49 PM (lz5hY)

You know me?

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 12:52 PM (pBEqG)

248 If Trump R gets the nomination, this guy is D's ballots are gonna run over him like a freight train

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 01, 2023 12:50 PM (llON

Oh yeah...there'll be 95-100million d votes in '24...they're just that good.

Posted by: BignJames at April 01, 2023 12:53 PM (AwYPR)

249 " but the Fresh Pope has been sick, and at this stage of times, I just sorta assume they're done with the guy, and plan to kill him off."
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I think he is better now ... and Lumpy Federman is released from the hospital as well.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 12:48 PM (Cus5s)

Oh, I thought they were BOTH still hospitalized.

I guess they made their payments to their respective bag men.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:53 PM (5aiaB)

250 247 Heh. This is my generation 4 G17 that kinda looks like my generation 3 and this is my....

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:55 PM (lz5hY)

251 Widespread voter fraud against Trump?
No.
Very selected and pinpointed fraud. Just enough to carry a few states.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 12:56 PM (anj39)

252 240 Did ace or the cobs post anything about the guy that got 10 years for a meme?


Posted by: Ian S. at April 01, 2023 12:49 PM (X4R3E)

I know I posted something about it, posting a silly meme is a felony, but a prosecution based on a total lie is totes cool and a great plan.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 12:58 PM (Zzbjj)

253 Did ace or the cobs post anything about the guy that got 10 years for a meme?
Posted by: Ian S.

Sidebar

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 12:58 PM (gGlAW)

254 Look what we did yo Gaddaffi.

Xi has put CHN on a war footing because he intends to price a small amnt of oil in yuan.

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People either don't remember it or never knew it, but that was the entire reason for the Iraq War. He was going to sell using euros iirc. We were going to preserve the dollar.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 12:59 PM (/F4Jb)

255 251 Widespread voter fraud against Trump?
No.
Very selected and pinpointed fraud. Just enough to carry a few states.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 12:56 PM (anj39)

What % of Biden's world historic total were legit votes?

Why did Biden outperform Barry and Bill?

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:59 PM (1ais2)

256 How it will play out, I don't know, but the LP has been completely taken over by people who categorically reject the strategies the LP has been using for years.

It'll look different next year. How? I don't know.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 12:51 PM (5aiaB)


The original strategy in the late sixties and early seventies was pretty realistic in the LP realized they had more power if they allied with one of the other parties, and chose the Dems over the Vietnam war issue. Unfortunately this led to a lot of folk who couldn't make it as a Dem gravitating the LP, and turning it into Dem lite and also focusing on cementing the LPs position as America's third largest political party. Perot's run was what caused the most problem with ballot access

The Mises caucus is more focused on results and per Michael Heise, they are going to try to make goals for this election cycle, instead of "Freeing the world in our lifetime"

The drive "run like a Libertarian" is an interesting move, since it focuses on local elections instead of state and federal

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:59 PM (xhaym)

257 Pope had half a lung removed during an earlier illness. The pneumonia hit hard as a result. Haven't heard if he's released but unlikely he will participate in Easter celebrations.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 01, 2023 12:59 PM (u7leW)

258 My "ancient weapon" is a 1911 that was my Dad's to keep the other ancient weapons--the M1 and M14a company, with an Ithaca 37 just in case.

Posted by: irongrampa at April 01, 2023 01:01 PM (KATBx)

259 Very selected and pinpointed fraud. Just enough to carry a few states.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 12:56 PM (anj39)

Idk if you are a Ron guy. But this position is a base req for supporting him.

But req further answer as to how Ron can depress DEM turnout to the low level he needs to win.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 01:01 PM (1ais2)

260
General strike with a list of demands to start serious negotiations.

Will it work? Dunno. But that's my proposal. Otherwise we ride the downward spiral.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you
**************

Brilliant, brilliant! Now go ahead and organize this! Ride in on your unicorn and lead us!

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at April 01, 2023 01:01 PM (4zxRq)

261 Harris is not a powerful person, it will be easy to dump her having no backing from anyone

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 01:01 PM (xhxe8)

262 Newsom looks like the very definition of low life lounge lizard scum bag.
Posted by: N. Lurker at April 01, 2023 12:14 PM (eG

And he sounds like one too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 01, 2023 01:02 PM (BdMk6)

263 Heh. This is my generation 4 G17 that kinda looks like my generation 3 and this is my....
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 01, 2023 12:55 PM (lz5hY)

I've carried the same Glock 19 since 1995.

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (pBEqG)

264 People either don't remember it or never knew it, but that was the entire reason for the Iraq War. He was going to sell using euros iirc. We were going to preserve the dollar.

Lather, rinse, repeat.
Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 12:59 PM (/F4Jb)

Word on the street is, Chi Nah and House of Saud are negotiating oil biz, not using the dollar.

Hmmm...

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (5aiaB)

265 Do not play chess with the pigeon.....

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (LOVUx)

266 Why did Biden outperform Barry and Bill?
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 12:59 PM (1ais2)

He didn't. They shuttered windows and threw GOP out of the counting places. We know it was a fraud, but we'd rather pretend Trump, Lake, Oz, Laxalt were shit candidates. They weren't.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (Zzbjj)

267 Congratulations to Gavin Newsom 47th President of the United States.

Posted by: JROD at April 01, 2023 01:04 PM (IlL6s)

268 I am really sorry, If this man thinks he can go one on one in a debate with Donald Trump. He due for a new asshole to be torn in him. His Tenure as the Governor had been only propped up by friendly press. Trump will paint him as another lying politician and can bring the receipts from Gavin's recall election vs Larry Elder. Promises made then broken the week after the election. CA voters are absolute suckers.

Posted by: Picric at April 01, 2023 01:04 PM (13tTk)

269 I've carried the same Glock 19 since 1995.
Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (pBEqG)


Sigh.
I was in a terrible boating accident in '97.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 01:05 PM (anj39)

270 The drive "run like a Libertarian" is an interesting move, since it focuses on local elections instead of state and federal
Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 12:59 PM (xhaym)

Yeah, that's what I hear. We shall see how it plays out.

I do know this though: Any Republican who is going to act like the LP candidate is handing their particular election to the Dems, by siphoning off his (or her) votes, is going to get a big fat "F you" from said LP voters.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:05 PM (5aiaB)

271 I think I'm the only one that points out that the 90% registered voter turnout is North Korean numbers and impossible.

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:05 PM (pBEqG)

272 Yeah, California, Kamala Harris, Willie Brown and because of Willie Brown term limits that have worked out so well.

Posted by: Holy Crap at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (6/ZNP)

273 Word on the street is, Chi Nah and House of Saud are negotiating oil biz, not using the dollar.

Hmmm...
Posted by: BurtTC

And a number of other countries too (Brazil IIRC for one).
They'll all get a surprise when the Yuan gets revalued(manipulated by China).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (gGlAW)

274 Wow. Massive storm front just blew through here. Things were lookin' pretty dicey there for a while. Now the sun is shining. Go figure.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (Xrfse)

275 I've carried the same Glock 19 since 1995.
Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (pBEqG)


Sigh.
I was in a terrible boating accident in '97.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 01:05 PM (anj39)

You too. Unfortunately that was the only one of my guns I was able to save.

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (pBEqG)

276 Not sure why some are irritated with the commenter who’s pointing out what is obvious to me; namely, the path to 270 with any decent R (that does NOT include Romney or any of his ilk) is really sketchy and doubtful. I’ll vote but I prefer to have my eyes open to reality. The D’s obviously cheated/ fortified to install Biden in 2020 and they cheated just enough in 2022 so that the red tidal wave became a trickle. Why won’t they do the same in 2024?? There have been zero consequences and they’re getting practiced and better at it. Any R candidate that puts us first will get the same treatment. I hate it, but I can’t ignore my lying eyes….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (xT8gx)

277 Someday Newsom will show up wearing leather pants.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 01, 2023 01:07 PM (eGTCV)

278 He didn't. They shuttered windows and threw GOP out of the counting places. We know it was a fraud, but we'd rather pretend Trump, Lake, Oz, Laxalt were shit candidates. They weren't.
Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (Zzbjj)

Well, Oz was. Not that it mattered.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:07 PM (5aiaB)

279 know a guy who collects Glocks. He has the most boring gun collection in the world.

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I've got one and like it, but I bought it just for carrying.

One thing about the guy that only has Glocks in his collection? It's boring to other people, but he can pick up any pistol and is immediately familiar with it, with no need to remember what he's using or where the controls are, and it feels and shoots almost the same as the others.

I suspect there's something to be said for that. And something reassuring if it's your collection.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 01:07 PM (/F4Jb)

280 I think I'm the only one that points out that the 90% registered voter turnout is North Korean numbers and impossible.
Posted by: polynikes

Now do the areas that had more votes than registered voters... and were not investigated.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 01:08 PM (gGlAW)

281 Any R candidate that puts us first will get the same treatment. I hate it, but I can’t ignore my lying eyes….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (xT8gx)

That's a diff arg than the poaster made. And yes anyone who thinks the election was legit needs to vote DEM to take over the uniparty. Same with those eho think fraud is iron clad.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 01:09 PM (pDQ4k)

282 And a number of other countries too (Brazil IIRC for one).
They'll all get a surprise when the Yuan gets revalued(manipulated by China).
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (gGlAW)

Why, it's almost like getting in bed with a big hegemon nation is bad for your country, in the long run.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:10 PM (5aiaB)

283 Well kids.
Have fun. Mrs.D has a asshole-do list.
Later.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 01, 2023 01:11 PM (anj39)

284 I wonder how many Romans actually gave a shit about the end of the Republic.

Just go about your normal business and survive.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 01, 2023 01:11 PM (5u1+1)

285 Now do the areas that had more votes than registered voters... and were not investigated.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 01:08 PM (gGlAW)

As I pointed out elsewhere, that whole "drawer 3," or whatever they called it, where people were allowed to cast ballots the day of, that were supposed to be validated later, they calculated there were something like 30K voters in Maricopa Co. who voted that way, but when they counted all the drawer 3 (I don't remember what they called it), there was something like 70K ballots.

Lake was expected to take something like 65-70% of those same day votes, but when they counted them, it turned out to be more like 52-48, or something like that.

If your opponent has a cheat to every strategy you try, all they need is a few of them to succeed, and they win. It's impossible for you to anticipate exactly how they're going to cheat, 100% of the time.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:15 PM (5aiaB)

286 Trump will paint him as another lying politician and can bring the receipts from Gavin's recall election vs Larry Elder. Promises made then broken the week after the election. CA voters are absolute suckers.
Posted by: Picric at April 01, 2023 01:04 PM (13tTk)

Concur. Newsom runs his State like his own little playground and has never solved any of it's problems while creating many more. CA voters who voted for him are the scumbag moochers who ruin everything always wanting a handout.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 01, 2023 01:15 PM (R/m4+)

287 "And a number of other countries too (Brazil IIRC for one). They'll all get a surprise when the Yuan gets revalued(manipulated by China)." Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

yeah, I don't think everyone really wants to count on China, even though the US has been inflating like crazy. But USA wants a digital currency so they can track every move, and cut off credit to "deplorables".

Jerome Powell said almost a year ago "there can be more than one reserve currency". World Trade in other currencies has been going on for a long time, but USA has been the majority (70-75% maybe?), and it is not called the petrodollar for nothing.

It took Biden's globalists to push China/Brazil/Saudis/India/Russia together. (though the idea of the BRICS is not new)

Posted by: illiniwek at April 01, 2023 01:16 PM (Cus5s)

288 Word on the street is, Chi Nah and House of Saud are negotiating oil biz, not using the dollar.

Hmmm...

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It's why Joe pointlessly emptied the strategic reserve.

We would struggle to fight a war on one front now. There's no way we could manage two.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 01:16 PM (/F4Jb)

289 I don’t think the fraud is ironclad but it’ll be awfully hard to overcome. PA MI AZ are hopeless… the cheating there is so ingrained and they have D governors and legislatures. The electoral arithmetic after that means an R has to pull an inside straight of GA (where MAGA republicans now go to die in statewide elections) VA (really purple), NV (massive fraud there to deal with) and NH. Long uphill slog….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2023 01:17 PM (xT8gx)

290 Trump in the pokey, Biden out to pasture, Gavin not a doddering vegetable, R candidate the chosen loser like McCain n Romney. Plus the billion(with a B) the DNC is putting towards ballot harvesting/fortifying the election…….easy-peasy.

Posted by: JROD at April 01, 2023 01:17 PM (IlL6s)

291 I do know this though: Any Republican who is going to act like the LP candidate is handing their particular election to the Dems, by siphoning off his (or her) votes, is going to get a big fat "F you" from said LP voters.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:05 PM (5aiaB)


Well, it really depends on what issues, there are some areas that do overlap in interest, like property rights and constitutional carry. Mostly though it is the thought that a lot of city council and school board and elected clerk positions are often uncontested, or won by miniscule vote counts and it might be a better idea to run for those because they are winnable.
Local elections are more personal elections than state, which tend to be tribal in outlook. Shaking hands work better in a local election, but asking for someone to essentially "leave their tribe" to vote for the loonies that run candidates who look homeless and wear boots on their heads is a stretch

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 01:17 PM (xhaym)

292 Any R candidate that puts us first will get the same treatment. I hate it, but I can’t ignore my lying eyes….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2023 01:06 PM (xT8gx)


That's nice dear

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 01:19 PM (xhaym)

293 I wonder how many Romans actually gave a shit about the end of the Republic.

Just go about your normal business and survive.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 01, 2023 01:11 PM (5u1+1)

Depends on what you call normal. If this country goes full socialist with socialist authoritarian laws, you can kiss what you think is normal goodbye.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 01, 2023 01:19 PM (BdMk6)

294 Unfortunately I think in debates Trump will go for more schoolyard insults with only a little bit of his opponents bad policy mixed in. I just recall that they had the black grandmother Trump pardoned attend one of the Biden debates . Trump had permission to point her out if they attacked him with the racist card. They did and it seemed Trump forgot she was in the audience.

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:20 PM (pBEqG)

295 If Trump and the RNC aren't filing lawsuits right now in regard to swing states unconstitutional voting procedures then they don't want to win.

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:21 PM (pBEqG)

296 Well, it really depends on what issues, there are some areas that do overlap in interest, like property rights and constitutional carry. Mostly though it is the thought that a lot of city council and school board and elected clerk positions are often uncontested, or won by miniscule vote counts and it might be a better idea to run for those because they are winnable.
Local elections are more personal elections than state, which tend to be tribal in outlook. Shaking hands work better in a local election, but asking for someone to essentially "leave their tribe" to vote for the loonies that run candidates who look homeless and wear boots on their heads is a stretch
Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 01:17 PM (xhaym)

Oh, absolutely. I just mean, those statewide races where people go all knee-jerk and say "the LP candidate should drop out because he/she is stealing votes from the R candidate!"

LP voters in those circumstances are NOT going to vote for the R candidate, if there is no LP candidate, and thinking they're costing you the election if you lose is silly and wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:22 PM (5aiaB)

297 Long uphill slog….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2023 01:17 PM (xT8gx)


That's nice dear.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 01:22 PM (xhaym)

298 Wildroot Creme Oil is far superior. This is fact.

Posted by: City Slicker at April 01, 2023 01:23 PM (j+jCx)

299 That's nice dear.
Posted by: Kindltot

Love it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 01, 2023 01:23 PM (gGlAW)

300 Keeping you abreast of all your nood needs
GARDEN NOOD

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 01:24 PM (xhxe8)

301 Well, Oz was. Not that it mattered.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:07 PM (5aiaB)

Nah, you'd have to accept that PA voted for a vegetable. I don't think they voted for that turnip Biden either.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 01:25 PM (Zzbjj)

302 Trump and the RNC aren't filing lawsuits right now in regard to swing states unconstitutional voting procedures then they don't want to win.

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I think the Arizona state congress is showing the way. The Constitution is clear on who controls the elections, and this is a smart approach, especially with the "no standing" boilerplate to cut off anyone else before they can get started.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 01:25 PM (/F4Jb)

303 263
I've carried the same Glock 19 since 1995.
Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:03 PM (pBEqG)


1911 since '77.

A few year gap when I lent it to Pops when I was overseas. he was a judge and kept it on the bench in a drawer. This was after a couple miscreants escaped prison with the stated intent of coming after the prosecutor and judge. A night in the shrubbery with me pulling security.

So, he's got the piece in the courtroom and a defendant rushes the bench. To end up staring at the muzzle.

I was across the pond, so learned of later, post prime rib dinner over cigars and bourbon. now, Dad was WW II Navy and Korea Marine with...interesting...stories.

I gave him a marginal "Go" on the courtroom incident. Why? He didn't pull the trigger. "Force Protection" etc (meaning grieving widow and kids). Puff. Sip. "Fair enough" with a wintry smile.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at April 01, 2023 01:26 PM (8C7+r)

304 Keeping you abreast of all your nood needs
GARDEN NOOD
Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 01:24 PM (xhxe

The garden post is when I leave the blog for most of the weekend.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 01, 2023 01:27 PM (BdMk6)

305 WI is another tough state for a MAGA R. It has a D governor and a state Supreme Court election this year that looks like it’s leaning to the liberal D. On top of all the challenges, the R has to hold states like NC that was very close in 2020. If someone thinks Biden got 81 million legitimate votes (as opposed to counted ballots)….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 01, 2023 01:29 PM (xT8gx)

306 Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at April 01, 2023 01:26 PM (8C7+r)

Hah great story .

Posted by: polynikes at April 01, 2023 01:29 PM (pBEqG)

307 Oh, absolutely. I just mean, those statewide races where people go all knee-jerk and say "the LP candidate should drop out because he/she is stealing votes from the R candidate!"

LP voters in those circumstances are NOT going to vote for the R candidate, if there is no LP candidate, and thinking they're costing you the election if you lose is silly and wrong.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:22 PM (5aiaB)


that gets back to the whole "is focusing on principles more important or is getting concessions and then dropping out better use of the money"

Under the old management, it was principles all the way, and that bothered me. Supposedly under the new team, they are thinking that getting some concessions is a better value for the money than principles and a total loss.

If I give a twenty the main party will send me a photo and a nice form letter maybe.
Maybe if I give a twenty to the LP they will get the main party candidate to be 2% less worse, and that is better value for a donation for sure.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 01:29 PM (xhaym)

308 Posted by: Iron Mike Golf A2E6, Easy 6 Titanium Enhanced at April 01, 2023 01:26 PM

Had to smile at that. Thanks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 01, 2023 01:31 PM (Xrfse)

309 I think the Arizona state congress is showing the way. The Constitution is clear on who controls the elections, and this is a smart approach, especially with the "no standing" boilerplate to cut off anyone else before they can get started.
Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 01:25 PM (/F4Jb)

It's not state "congress". It's "state legislatures".

(A small term demon for me)

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 01, 2023 01:33 PM (BdMk6)

310 polynikes been saying that myself, everyone wants to forget the fraud from 2020 but if you don't fight that you won't win 2024.

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 01:34 PM (xhxe8)

311 Really? Really? 10 years? He used a similar font!

Using social media pitches, one image encouraging phony votes utilized a font similar to one used by the Clinton campaign in authentic ads, prosecutors said. Others tried to mimic Clinton's ads in other ways, they added.
By Election Day in 2016, at least 4,900 unique telephone numbers texted “Hillary” or something similar to a text number that was spread by multiple deceptive campaign images tweeted by Mackey and co-conspirators, prosecutors said.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 01, 2023 01:36 PM (FrvLQ)

312 How do they get rid of Joe and Kamala for Newsom?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 01, 2023 01:36 PM (63Dwl)

313 Newsom's hair is going to be savaged by lustful ladybois with painted nails.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 01, 2023 01:37 PM (Jg7EG)

314 How do they get rid of Joe and Kamala for Newsom?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 01, 2023 01:36 PM (63Dwl)

They don't. And the DNC doesn't care. They've pretty much honed the cheat where it won't matter who they run.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at April 01, 2023 01:41 PM (BdMk6)

315 Newsome doesn't understand the 'little dab'il do ya' part.

Posted by: micky at April 01, 2023 01:42 PM (3byMq)

316 It's not state "congress". It's "state legislatures".

(A small term demon for me)
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

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And if I weren't talking with a bunch of people who I assumed were familiar with and would understand the topic I would likely quote it directly.

But sure, if it advances the conversation we will replace it with legislatures.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 01:43 PM (/F4Jb)

317 Well, Oz was. Not that it mattered.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:07 PM (5aiaB)

Nah, you'd have to accept that PA voted for a vegetable. I don't think they voted for that turnip Biden either.
Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 01:25 PM (Zzbjj)

I just mean Oz was a bad candidate, and that it didn't matter whether he was good or bad, he was going to lose to the vegetable either way, because it wasn't really an election.

It's right in our faces. Candidates don't matter. Party matters, and right now, the Dems are better at cheating than the R's.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:44 PM (5aiaB)

318 think the Arizona state congress is showing the way. The Constitution is clear on who controls the elections, and this is a smart approach, especially with the "no standing" boilerplate to cut off anyone else before they can get started.

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Scratch that previous comment.

My post used it correctly. Arizonas Congress is showing the way.

Posted by: NISTdot gov: office chairs, not jet fuel or impact, caused perfect simultaneous collapse of WTC7 at April 01, 2023 01:45 PM (/F4Jb)

319 It's right in our faces. Candidates don't matter. Party matters, and right now, the Dems are better at cheating than the R's.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:44 PM (5aiaB)

The DEMs and Reps collude together. And have since at least 2008 (tea party).

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 01, 2023 01:48 PM (/3H+p)

320 Maybe if I give a twenty to the LP they will get the main party candidate to be 2% less worse, and that is better value for a donation for sure.
Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 01:29 PM (xhaym)

Whatever the strategy, I have no way of knowing what's going to "work" and what won't. I like the idea of challenging local races, especially school boards.

I don't mind situations like what happened in AZ (even though it ultimately didn't matter), where the LP candidate dropped out and endorsed Blake Masters. I suspect what we're going to hear is a number of LP folks who will be saying things in a variety of races that indicate where and WHY they won't support the R candidate, and wouldn't advise their voters to cross over. That could have an impact. If/when it does indeed, cause a R candidate to lose.

But all of this assumes we're talking about fair elections, which, yeah.....

Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:48 PM (5aiaB)

321 I do keep hoping some state blows ghe fking lid off vote fraud, Kari Lakes right now is our best shot

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 01:50 PM (kRCyC)

322 But all of this assumes we're talking about fair elections, which, yeah.....
Posted by: BurtTC at April 01, 2023 01:48 PM (5aiaB)


Hardcore LP aren't going to vote GOP or Dem unless they want to. Saying they are splitting the ticket is like saying the small town next to the bigger city is stealing all the city's tax revenue. (this is a perennial problem in Oregon, apparently) This is the pretext for ballot access laws, by the way.

Of course the LP is not organized in lockstep with the central committee for some reason, and it would be up to the candidate to make that decision. I expect it would be a judgement between the idea of running for oneself or running for the party or running for the community, and what serves the goal the best.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 01, 2023 01:55 PM (xhaym)

323 Some newb says "No one is mentioning states that get us to 270". Here's one: Virginia.

I've read (probably here) that the Dems didn't just steal 5 states in 2020 - the 5 where they did it openly, stopping the vote-count & sending Republican vote-counters home - they stole at least 6 or 7, including Virginia.

One year later, Youngkin and his team swept the state-wide offices and took the House of Delegates, going from 48 to 55 out of 100. They're very likely to win the state Senate this year, which is now 21/40 Dems, and would have done it already except elections are every four years.

How did Youngkin do it? I've read that it was mostly because his team made sure that every single polling place had competent Republican poll-watchers with competent lawyers on speed-dial, and that was enough to overcome the usual fraud, given the actual Republican leanings of the state.

Also, is Arizona really hopeless? Republicans challenging the last election have had some judicial victories and a lot of obvious Dem cheating has been revealed. Overturning the 2022 elections may not be possible, but getting elections cleaned up should be doable. And that would suffice.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at April 01, 2023 01:59 PM (SqPcY)

324
Well, I wish I was a catfish,
swimmin in a oh, deep, blue sea
I would have all you good lookin women,
fishin, fishin after me

Posted by: Muddy Joe Biden at April 01, 2023 02:19 PM (Jg7EG)

325 David Reaboi: If Trump gets the nomination, this guy is gonna run over him like a freight train

This statement tells me that David Reaboi is like 99% of the rest of the pundits on the right, who are still clueless as to the current situation in the country with regards to the completely corrupt and fraudulent voting system. Not to mention, he is completely wrong about President Trump's popularity.

In 2020, President Trump increased his vote total from 2016 by 17.8% (11.2 million votes.) He increased his black vote total by 96% (1.2 million votes). 74.2 million total votes was the most in American history. He likely won in a landslide, which is why the Deep State rigged the election & stole it. President Trump achieved this while being no less "divisive" ("50% of the country hates him") as he is today.

The fact is that there is no Republican candidate who can beat the Deep State machine in 2024. None. Any pundit claiming one can is lying & shilling for their particular candidate. There is no path to 270 electoral votes for a Republican candidate after the Deep State stole the Arizona Governor election. Flipping GA & VA only get the count from 232-306 to 261-277.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 01, 2023 02:19 PM (Do5/p)

326 If not for the absurd voting rules and massive advantage Newsom has in CA with the number of Democrat voters to Republican he would have been recalled. His record is awful.

No, Reaboi is not right. Newsom is a slimy fraud who is transparently awful to normal people. It might just be that Reaboi along with a number of other Republican "influencers" is a DeSantis supporter.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 01, 2023 02:23 PM (ZLI7S)

327 This statement tells me that David Reaboi is like 99% of the rest of the pundits on the right, who are still clueless as to the current situation in the country with regards to the completely corrupt and fraudulent voting system. Not to mention, he is completely wrong about President Trump's popularity.


Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 01, 2023 02:19 PM (Do5/p)

He's also one of Ace's besties.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 02:27 PM (Zzbjj)

328 No, Reaboi is not right. Newsom is a slimy fraud who is transparently awful to normal people. It might just be that Reaboi along with a number of other Republican "influencers" is a DeSantis supporter.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 01, 2023 02:23 PM (ZLI7S

He is completely all DeSantis with a sprinkling of Jazz. He posts pics of himself with DeSantis every time he gets a chance, then whines when anyone reminds him of this.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 02:29 PM (Zzbjj)

329 Some people think its election fraud and we're still a right-leaning country. I'm more in the camp that we're just not the same country we grew up in and it's now more center-left.

Posted by: Blago at April 01, 2023 11:12 AM

My theory is that the 2016 election results reflect the current state of the country, as the Left so compeltely underestimated Donald Trump and his appeal across the country -- and Hillary Clinton's lack of appeal -- that they did not bother to put their cheat machine completely into effect. Thus we saw states which we thought were deep blue flip to Donald Trump by the slimmest of margins: Michigan (10,000 votes), Wisconsin (22,000 votes), Pennsylvania (44,000 votes).

Without the cheat machine in effect in those states, they are toss-ups. With the cheat machine, they are deep blue. 2016 results exposed that.

That said, I do agree with you that the country is moving towards center-left now and further left going forward. Due to boomers dying off, small Generation-X electorate and Millennials and Gen-Z electorates majority left-wing. Which means there will be less of a need to cheat going forward.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 01, 2023 02:32 PM (Do5/p)

330 That said, I do agree with you that the country is moving towards center-left now and further left going forward. Due to boomers dying off, small Generation-X electorate and Millennials and Gen-Z electorates majority left-wing. Which means there will be less of a need to cheat going forward.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 01, 2023 02:32 PM (Do5/p)

Maybe, but when these little ones have assets and kids they might not be so quick to abandon them to the state. When in college, boomers were pretty lib, very lib, and this seems to have vanished. Also the people who migrated here are unlikely to let the libs spit on their religion or trans their kids.

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 02:35 PM (Zzbjj)

331 Wish everyone would dump the Liberal term, they are Culture Marxists now.

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 02:40 PM (xhxe8)

332 War by other (political) means then. I'd really like to hear what the governors of these red states think about this. Are they going to launch political organizations to oppose Democrat policies in blue state? Or nah?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 01, 2023 11:25 AM

Nah, that's not who we are. Not the hill to die on.

Posted by: Red State Governors at April 01, 2023 02:42 PM (Do5/p)

333 "Flipping GA & VA only get the count from 232-306 to 261-277." That's more than 3/4ths of the way to victory. Flipping GA, VA, and AZ is enough to win.

As noted above, I think VA, with Youngkin in charge of preventing cheating, is already a likely Republican pickup.

I'm guessing having Antifa attacking police with firebombs in Atlanta is helping the Republican vote in GA. And Reps in GA and other states have one big advantage in 2024 over 2020. If Dem vote-counters say "let's knock off for the night and come back in the morning", they know now that the correct answer is "Hell no! You can go home, but we're staying until the count is done." I assume they'll all have sleeping bags and coolers full of food and drink next time.

As for AZ, if the Republicans can prove the 2022 election was utterly corrupted, courts are unlikely to reverse the results and kick out the Dems who were supposedly elected, since "utterly corrupted" does not quite prove it was stolen. But they ought to be willing to order changes that would clean up the system and prevent it from being stolen in 2024.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at April 01, 2023 02:46 PM (SqPcY)

334 If they could get an ugly, creepy, stupid, racist, wiseass with advanced dementia--and who didn't campaign-- across the finish line, getting this slick piece of plastic through, will be a breeze

Posted by: JoeF. at April 01, 2023 11:28 AM

My opinion is that all elections from 2020 onward are pre-determined for the Deep State. Whoever they want to win will win. The only thing they need to worry about is how much they need to cheat to win. They were caught off guard in 2016, lesson learned. They were caught off guard again in 2020, but had all the back-up plans in place to execute in the middle of the night to ensure the steal.

So if the Deep State wants Gavin Newsom as next President, he will win the election. It will just be a matter of how much they have to cheat in each state to give him the required 270+ electoral votes. If he falls short anywhere -- such as in the 5 states they had to shut down in the middle of the night for Joe Biden in 2020 -- they will simply ratchet up the cheat machine in those states.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 01, 2023 02:49 PM (Do5/p)

335 What's a Gavin, anyways??

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 01, 2023 11:30 AM

Old English word for Bush?

Posted by: Gavin Rossdale at April 01, 2023 02:52 PM (Do5/p)

336 331 Wish everyone would dump the Liberal term, they are Culture Marxists now.
Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 02:40 PM (xhxe

I'll use my husband's term "radical assholes".

Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 03:00 PM (Zzbjj)

337 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Zombie Joe McCarthy at April 01, 2023 03:05 PM (Xrfse)

338 I have an infected Little Finger. It's getting sore but it's not ripe enough to squeeze the pus out yet.
Infected Little Finger is my tribal name.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 01, 2023 03:14 PM (VdGjU)

339 PET NOOD

And another great conversation today, thanks KT and Horde.
Will still be around here

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 03:26 PM (xhxe8)

340 Northern Sulker soak it in Ebson salt water

Posted by: Skip at April 01, 2023 03:41 PM (xhxe8)

341 That Northern skulker at April 01, 2023 03:14 PM

Don't mess around if it's by your nail. Soak it in peroxide at least. Put some Betadine on it. Something. Watch it carefully.

Posted by: KT at April 01, 2023 03:44 PM (rrtZS)

342 Preferences aside, Reaboi seems to understand something that many--including a number of hordelings--do not: it's unlikely that the Dem frontrunner will be either Biden or Harris, so it won't be enough for the R candidate to point at them and say "vote for me, I'm not that guy." It will require presenting an actual vision and strategy that not very political Americans can relate to.

Posted by: CppThis at April 01, 2023 03:45 PM (PZvjL)

343 330 Maybe, but when these little ones have assets and kids they might not be so quick to abandon them to the state. When in college, boomers were pretty lib, very lib, and this seems to have vanished. Also the people who migrated here are unlikely to let the libs spit on their religion or trans their kids.
Posted by: CN at April 01, 2023 02:35 PM (Zzbjj)


Also worth noting that X was the Pearl Jam lovin', socially conscious generation until they had the said assets and kids. Of course, with millennials it's been complicated by the fact that so many don't have assets or kids and probably never will. OTOH I predict the unwed gender-freaky millennial suicide rate is going to get massive as they're pushing 40 and realize how empty their existence is, so the problem may take care of itself.

Posted by: CppThis at April 01, 2023 03:50 PM (PZvjL)

344 Skip at April 01, 2023 03:26 PM

Thanks, Skip. We didn't even get into Newsom making California a sanctuary state for trans kids to get puberty blockers, hormones and maybe surgery without parental consent.

Posted by: KT at April 01, 2023 03:51 PM (rrtZS)

345 Though I think he is formidable because of "game show host" America, does the reparations thing derail Newsome? He is damned either way he goes.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 01, 2023 03:55 PM (oWBc3)

346 If the reparations thing happens (I doubt it, D's do failure theater too), I expect to have a big going away party for all my black neighbors when they move on to to the bigger houses in the nicer neighborhoods. I'll miss the nicer neighbors which include most of them. Maybe some folks will move up from East Palestine to become my new neighbors.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 01, 2023 04:11 PM (fs1hN)

347 Reaboi is on team DeSantis. Went to his inaugural, has gone to DeSantis events many, many times. Gavin Newsom is not nearly as polished as Reaboi says.

Posted by: Mike at April 02, 2023 04:43 PM (MOTel)

348 "Low IQ replies indicate you think I *like* this guy, or that I want him to win? He's the scariest, most evil Dem to come along in years. But he would absolutely crush a totally inarticulate guy with 100% name ID who's despised by more than half the country--and if you're honest with yourself, you know it, too."

Translation: Vote HARDER, Deplorables!

Posted by: Mhandisi at April 02, 2023 07:17 PM (IXANy)

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