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Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-24-2017
Sanborn House Library, Dartmouth CollegePic Note According to this, Sanborn House is
...home of the English department at Dartmouth College. It contains faculty offices, seminar rooms, and, most important to English majors, a library with Oxford editions of all the major and minor English and American authors, quiet alcoves for reading, a large fireplace for cheerful log fires on cold winter afternoons -- in the 1960s, there were lots of cold winter afternoons in Hanover, N.H. -- and tea for faculty and students every afternoon at 4:00.
It Pays To Increase Your Word Power® A VAUNTPARLER is someone who speaks on another’s behalf. Usage: Progressives have set themselves up as vauntparlers for all of the world's oppressed and downtrodden -- whether they've been asked to be or not.
What Is To Be Done?
Earlier this week, ace published one of his long think pieces, The National Nervous Breakdown, and How to Exploit it Ruthlessly, and if you haven't read it, you should. And, as brilliant as it is (and it is brilliant), one of the 'ettes (Emmie) noticed one tiny flaw: after all the exposition about the meltdown of the list, ace never discussed how it is to be exploited, as the title of his piece implied he would. So she asked him about it. This is ace's excuse:uh, i kinda wrote that title just to be catchy, and planned to think of something to say along those lines, but then I wrote All the Words and wanted to post it and be done with it. I had hoped that no one would notice I'd mentioned "exploiting it" in the headline.Terrific. In other words, the Great Communicator just forgot. And then he gave the stinkeye to Emmie for bringing it to everyone's attention. Also, for wanting to Control His Body. But maybe the book thread can help out here. Kurt Schlichter's latest column looks like it could have been written as a counterponit to ace's article. It is entitled Unleashing the Power of Mockery on Annoying Social Justice Warriors and it's a book review of conservative author Lisa de Pasquale's latest book, The Social Justice Warrior Handbook: A Practical Survival Guide for Snowflakes, Millennials, and Generation Z, which, he says, "does exactly what today’s embattled conservatives need to do - it goes full bull in the progressive china shop." Schlicter describes it as:
So thanks.
Posted by: ace at September 19, 2017 07:52 PM (8rNrN)
...a faux guide to how to be a crying, bitter baby demanding that mommy and daddy submit to his, her or xir's increasingly ridiculous commands. And by writing it, Lisa provides a template for us to do what we all need to do all the time – see through their lies and strip them of their power by ruthlessly mocking these proto-fascist geebos until they flee back to their safe spaces.It is available on Kindle (pre-order) for $7.99. But there are other possibilities as well. In his book SJWs Always Lie: Taking Down the Thought Police, Vox Day observes:
You should be aware that you have a very important strategic advantage vis-a-vis the SJWs with regards to morale. A large percentage of SJWs are prone to various forms of mental illness; being competitive with regards to their victimhood, it is not at all uncommon for them to openly brag about being on various antidepressants and other psychiatric medications. I have been told by observers that the majority of commenters on several SJW sites have publicly made reference to their being prescribed such medications. Because so many of them are miserable and depressed, the strategy of repeatedly hammering SJW morale with dark messages of inevitable failure, doom, and defeat tends to be considerably more effective than it is when aimed at normal, happy, self-confident individuals.Shorter Vox: SJWs are susceptible to moby and concern-troll attacks because they're mentally ill. (Of *course* progressives are mentally ill. You can't force your mind to believe obviously untrue and ridiculous things day in and day out for years on end and expect that nothing will go wrong.) And this made me wonder if this is why the SJWs invented the moby and concern-troll attacks: they're projecting. That is, SJWs like to call their enemies "h8rs" because they're full of h8 themselves, and they think mobying will work on conservatives because they know it will work on them.
Book Reading Program How many books can you read in a lifetime? Centuries ago, you could read pretty much every book that had ever been written. William F. Buckley once claimed that probably the last guy who could've read every book was Erasmus. So, instead of reading every book, we have reading programs. CBD mentioned to me the other day that he was swapping e-mails with Jay Guevara, who recommended The New Lifetime Reading Plan: The Classical Guide to World Literature, Revised and Expanded by Clifton Fadiman:
Now in print for the first time in almost 40 years, The New Lifetime Reading Plan provides readers with brief, informative and entertaining introductions to more than 130 classics of world literature. From Homer to Hawthorne, Plato to Pascal, and Shakespeare to Solzhenitsyn, the great writers of Western civilization can be found in its pages. In addition, this new edition offers a much broader representation of women authors, such as Charlotte Brontë, Emily Dickinson and Edith Wharton, as well as non-Western writers such as Confucius, Sun-Tzu, Chinua Achebe, Mishima Yukio and many others.Of course, Fadiman's is not the only list out there. There's also The Well-Educated Mind: A Guide to the Classical Education You Never Had by Susan Wise Bauer and The Western Canon: The Books and School of the Ages by Harold Bloom.
True Romance Science fiction legend Ray Bradbury met his future wife in a bookstore:
If you want to fall in love with a reader, go where the readers go. The late Ray Bradbury met his future wife, Marguerite McClure, at Fowler's Bookstore in Los Angeles when he was 22 years old.I thought this was sweet:
It was not love at first sight. McClure, who was clerking at the store, accused Bradbury of shoplifting.
"He carried a briefcase and wore a trench coat on a clear day, so I was immediately suspicious," she remembered later. "I expected him to slam his briefcase down on a pile of books and make off with a few. Instead, he told me he was a writer and invited me to have a cup of coffee with him."
McClure was the first woman Bradbury ever dated—and the last. They were married in 1947 and remained married for fifty-six years until McClure's death in 2003.(h/t Christopher Taylor) Books By Morons I forgot to mention this book last week as requested by a lurking moron, so I hope it's not too late to tell you his wife has just published a book, the second adventure of her heroine, Emerson Ayre, Ayre Conditioning. This is a sequel to Into Thin Ayre, which I mentioned about a year ago:
Emerson Ayre was a normal girl with a normal life until a supernatural inheritance leaves her questioning the nature of reality.The Amazon blurb for Ayre Conditioning assumes you've read the first book:
Forced into moonlighting in a job that she doesn't want and can't quit, Emerson joins the ranks of an elite group of women with special powers tasked with protecting the future of the planet.
Emerson Ayre is still new to the Orber game. With the memory of her botched first assignment still fresh in her mind, the stakes are high. When she gets a vision of two sexy cowboys for her next assignment, she is thrilled. That is, until cop and best friend, Cal, points out that she is no match for a couple of ranchers.The Kindle editions for both are $2.99.
With the help of Cal, techie friend Simon, Imogen and the other ladies in the Orbsphere, Emerson sets out to find her marks, and realizes along the way that Cal just may have been right...
___________ On the AoSHQ Goodreads group, moronette C. Chancy has published a sequel to her urban fantasy novel, A Net of Dawn and Bones, which I should probably tell you about first. But before that, the Amazon blurb has a bit of Ms. Chancy's explanation of why she writes what she does, and now that I've read it, I want to read her books. This is what she says:
This book was written because I couldn’t find anything like it on the shelves.Here is the actual blurb for her first novel:
...No, seriously. After the umpteenth time picking up yet another urban fantasy that looked promising but on closer skimming had the Designated Protagonist choosing the Sexier Evil, I kind of snapped.
Part of the fun of any story is putting yourself in the character’s shoes. But these shoes I not only didn’t want to slip into, I wanted to set them on fire. Where were the good guys? The honest cops? The ordinary people choosing to do the Right Thing, no matter how hard it was? Where was the belief that there is a Right Thing; that there is Good, and Evil, and you pick the side you’re going to fight for, even if the heavens fall?
In short - where were the heroes?
I assure you, if I were in on ground zero of a vampire versus werewolf blood war, my thoughts would not be centered on, omigod the two main supernatural guys are so darkly yummy in their hellspawn black leather. They would be, stake, silver - where are they and how fast can I reload?
So here they are: an honest cop, a half-demon, and an ancient heretic who just might be a saint. Out to kick butt, save lives, and hopefully save souls.
Blood rituals, black magic, and broken masquerades. Names to run away from really fast. And maybe the end of the world....Heh. Turns out I mentioned all of this on the book thread a little over a year ago. Same quotes and everything. Yeah, it's a repeat. Sue me. Anyway, Ms. Chancy has just published the sequel, Seeds of Blood:
Welcome to Intrepid, North Carolina. Where autumn brings leaf season, tourists, and bloody sacrifice.
Twenty years have passed since the Dark Day brought creatures of horror onto the evening news. Now vampires run nightclubs, alchemists deal potions on the street corners, and werewolf gangs lay claim to shady alleys. The honest cops of Intrepid enforce human laws on supernatural evil, and pray. Because the turn of the leaves brings Halloween, tourists... and the return of a serial killer who’s plagued Intrepid for over two decades.
Yet the night holds darker secrets than even the best detectives have unearthed. Somewhere in Intrepid, a demonic sorcerer plans to bring Hell on earth. And the Demongate is almost complete.
Over two decades of bloody murder, Steven Savonarola carved a sorcerous Demongate into the heart of his own hometown. With less than two weeks to disarm it before Halloween, Detective Church and the IPD are running out of time.Ms. Chancy has also written another comic fantasy, Count Taka and the Vampire Brides. They're all available on Kindle for $2.99 each.
Lucky for them, they have an edge: Myrrh, a hell-raider with over a thousand years’ experience shattering dark magic, and Aidan, a half-demon fire mage with a very personal grudge against evil.
The plan is simple: Find the tainted sites. Purify them. Try not to die.
They’ll need all the help they can get. Steven may be gone, but shadows in the mountains are determined to see the Demongate open - even if they have to slaughter half the city to do it. And when it comes to killing shadows, even hell-raiders don’t know everything.
If they’re going to make it to All Saint’s Day, they’re going to need hot lead, cold mead, and a weapon that’s out of this world.
And a little praying wouldn’t hurt...
___________ Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
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Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:14 AM (ghofu)
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:14 AM (26lkV)
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:14 AM (26lkV)
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th, hah!
Finished O'Brian's "The Truelove" in the Aubrey Maturin series. Still enthralled by the world that he describes and his ability to write.Only six more books to finish the series.
Read "The Hidden Life of Dogs" by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas and found it both fascinating and somewhat sad as she traces the lives of her dog companions for decades from early puppyhood to the eventual end. I have added her "The Social Lives of Dogs" to my substantial queue of books to read.
Read "Out of the Soylent Planet" by Robert Kroese and found it hilarious.
Reading "Blackbeard's Lost Treasure" by Caleb Wygal, which is of much interest to me since some of my ancestors lived in that area of North Carolina back in the day.
Still reading "The Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius and it has become clear to me why this book will never be used in any public academic setting. Marcus presents the underpinnings of #WhitePrivilege by recommending that you strive to act in such a manner that you live properly now, so that you can live at peace with yourself in the future.
Finished O'Brian's "The Truelove" in the Aubrey Maturin series. Still enthralled by the world that he describes and his ability to write.Only six more books to finish the series.
Read "The Hidden Life of Dogs" by Elizabeth Marshall Thomas and found it both fascinating and somewhat sad as she traces the lives of her dog companions for decades from early puppyhood to the eventual end. I have added her "The Social Lives of Dogs" to my substantial queue of books to read.
Read "Out of the Soylent Planet" by Robert Kroese and found it hilarious.
Reading "Blackbeard's Lost Treasure" by Caleb Wygal, which is of much interest to me since some of my ancestors lived in that area of North Carolina back in the day.
Still reading "The Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius and it has become clear to me why this book will never be used in any public academic setting. Marcus presents the underpinnings of #WhitePrivilege by recommending that you strive to act in such a manner that you live properly now, so that you can live at peace with yourself in the future.
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 24, 2017 09:16 AM (gwPgz)
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Finished up Clancy's Bear and Dragon book. Have moved on to the Golden Compass Trilogy. I liked the movie which was based on the first book and was waiting on a sequel which it appears we will not get one. (Not enough giant mechanical robot looking crap). So I got the trilogy in a package deal. It was wasn't a really good deal though but it reduced the price to less than $10/book which falls within my criteria. And wifey liked the movie too because it had Sam Elliot in it.
I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.
My most recent down load was a historical text called The Real Lincoln. I have read a lot of books, articles, and other stuff in my decades of studying the life and times in that era and the events leading up to it so have seen a lot of pro and con concerning Lincoln. This is a new look and should be interesting and besides it was, and still is, on sale for $1.99. I'll move on when I get done with the trilogy.
I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.
My most recent down load was a historical text called The Real Lincoln. I have read a lot of books, articles, and other stuff in my decades of studying the life and times in that era and the events leading up to it so have seen a lot of pro and con concerning Lincoln. This is a new look and should be interesting and besides it was, and still is, on sale for $1.99. I'll move on when I get done with the trilogy.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:18 AM (mpXpK)
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Top five?
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 24, 2017 09:18 AM (R5lpX)
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Tolle lege
Finished book 17 of Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II. It starts the beginning of the 7 year war covering the battle of Lobositz and the blockade of Saxony until their capitulation. He as most all historians agree on, wrongly incorporated the Saxon Army into his. They melted away as fast as they could deserting at every chance.
Book 18 is the longest of this series so far but should go fast as probably the most interesting.
Finished book 17 of Thomas Carlyle's History of Frederick II. It starts the beginning of the 7 year war covering the battle of Lobositz and the blockade of Saxony until their capitulation. He as most all historians agree on, wrongly incorporated the Saxon Army into his. They melted away as fast as they could deserting at every chance.
Book 18 is the longest of this series so far but should go fast as probably the most interesting.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (ghofu)
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missed by that much. {-}
Posted by: Traveling Man at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (R5lpX)
Posted by: freaked at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (UdKB7)
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Stopped by a library sale last Wednesday- they were having a special. 5 dollars for a paper grocery bag of books. I filled that thing to the top; it worked out to something like 15 cents a book. Got some Shakespeare, a bio of Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire, and a few other interesting-looking ones.
Gotta love it when people are getting rid of books. More for me!
Gotta love it when people are getting rid of books. More for me!
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:19 AM (26lkV)
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Vic- I'm impressed that you managed to actually read The Golden Compass series. I got about a third of the way through the first book and quit. Just couldn't get into it, even though I was a fantasy-loving teenager at the time. (still love fantasy, just not a teenager anymore)
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)
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On the writing front, the keyboard on my writing computer conked out, so I either have to switch over to my new one (the one I'm using now), or get a detached/ independent/ USB/ whatever it's called keyboard. Or figure out how to take MS Office off of the old computer and put it on the new one- without the original software CDs.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (26lkV)
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Recommended here a few weeks ago, I read Hue 1968: The Turning Point of the American War in Vietnam. This is a well-researched, well-written book on probably the most important battle of the war. A fascinating read.
I also read The Begger King, the third in the Hangman's Daughter series, by Oliver Potzsch, trans. by Lee Chadeayne. This is a multi-layered mystery, two going on at once, which I enjoyed very much. It takes place in 1662 but the scene is not the Bavarian town of Schongau, but rather the city of Regensburg. The reader learns much of city life at this time while trying to unravel the two mysteries each with its twists and turns.
I also read The Begger King, the third in the Hangman's Daughter series, by Oliver Potzsch, trans. by Lee Chadeayne. This is a multi-layered mystery, two going on at once, which I enjoyed very much. It takes place in 1662 but the scene is not the Bavarian town of Schongau, but rather the city of Regensburg. The reader learns much of city life at this time while trying to unravel the two mysteries each with its twists and turns.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (go62B)
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So much for not having much to say. Where the heck is everyone?
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (26lkV)
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Good morning my fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone has had pleasurable reading this week. And I look forward to the 'tell-all' books to come from the GNAMM (I think that's right). Probably spice, humor and fantasy in equal measure.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:26 AM (V+03K)
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On the AoSHQ Goodreads group, moronette C. Chancy has published a sequel to her urban fantasy novel, A Net of Dawn and Bones, which I should probably tell you about first.
Just downloaded that first book. But it took me a while to find out what the price was because amazon wanted to make sure you knew you could read it for free if you would only buy Kindle Unlimited.
Just downloaded that first book. But it took me a while to find out what the price was because amazon wanted to make sure you knew you could read it for free if you would only buy Kindle Unlimited.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (mpXpK)
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I just watched Fahrenheit 451 again last night after a long time. There is a speech in it that is straight up anti-SJW. The whole premise is that books need to be burned because they make people sad, and set up some ideas as superior to others.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (2lndx)
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You all know your chances of reading this website at the establishment above wouldn't be good or wise.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 09:28 AM (ghofu)
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My reading the last couple of weeks has been dictated by politics, sports, and world events: I'm avoiding them to the extent possible. Instead, I'm reading things that soothe the soul, at least my soul.
- Shooting and maintaining traditional muzzleloaders: "The Muzzleloading Cap-Lock Rifle" by Ned Roberts. It's history, a little biography, practical information, and enjoyment. (There was a bit of politics in the introduction. Roberts was born the year after the Civil War and lived into his eighties. He despised FDR and his policies.) In the same pleasurable vein, "Flintlocks - A Practical Guide" by Eric Bye.
- Upland bird hunting and fly fishing stories by William G. Tapply. He is best known for his Brady Coyne mystery series but his outdoor writing is superb. Also, I started the latest fly fishing book by John Gierach, another series of pleasant and restful anecdotes.
- Rereading "Painting As A Pastime" by Winston Churchill. Not a how-to book but a why-you-should book. It is more philosophy, and very pertinent, than anything else. Brilliant writing on a valuable topic.
- Books on growing heirloom vegetables and seed saving. This isn't prepper stuff; I just think the subject is interesting.
There's more, but you all get the idea.
- Shooting and maintaining traditional muzzleloaders: "The Muzzleloading Cap-Lock Rifle" by Ned Roberts. It's history, a little biography, practical information, and enjoyment. (There was a bit of politics in the introduction. Roberts was born the year after the Civil War and lived into his eighties. He despised FDR and his policies.) In the same pleasurable vein, "Flintlocks - A Practical Guide" by Eric Bye.
- Upland bird hunting and fly fishing stories by William G. Tapply. He is best known for his Brady Coyne mystery series but his outdoor writing is superb. Also, I started the latest fly fishing book by John Gierach, another series of pleasant and restful anecdotes.
- Rereading "Painting As A Pastime" by Winston Churchill. Not a how-to book but a why-you-should book. It is more philosophy, and very pertinent, than anything else. Brilliant writing on a valuable topic.
- Books on growing heirloom vegetables and seed saving. This isn't prepper stuff; I just think the subject is interesting.
There's more, but you all get the idea.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:30 AM (V+03K)
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I'm grinding my way through Hugh Thomas' "The Spanish Civil War."
Go ahead and guess the topic.
Thomas is one of those old school historians who does hundreds of interviews, checks original documents, etc. This thing is reasonably well-written but factually dense. I don't think I'll need to read another book on the topic.
One thing I've learned is that this is a rare case where history wasn't written by the victors. Everywhere you see Franco denounced as a fascist who worked with Hitler and Mussolini and the Republic is constantly referred to as the "lawful, democratically-elected government."
In fact, Franco was largely apolitical along with most of the army. The Popular Front which won the 1936 elections was a classic case of "no enemy to the left" so it included not just socialists, but Stalinists, anarchists, Trotsky-ites and independent Marxists.
The coup was largely provoked by the rampant civil disorder these militias caused fighting one another and assassinating conservative opponents. Oh, and killing priests, nuns and burning churches. They really enjoyed that.
Franco had some unsavory folks on his team, but at least his army wasn't run by Stalin's goons and policed by the NKVD.
A good read and very informative.
Go ahead and guess the topic.
Thomas is one of those old school historians who does hundreds of interviews, checks original documents, etc. This thing is reasonably well-written but factually dense. I don't think I'll need to read another book on the topic.
One thing I've learned is that this is a rare case where history wasn't written by the victors. Everywhere you see Franco denounced as a fascist who worked with Hitler and Mussolini and the Republic is constantly referred to as the "lawful, democratically-elected government."
In fact, Franco was largely apolitical along with most of the army. The Popular Front which won the 1936 elections was a classic case of "no enemy to the left" so it included not just socialists, but Stalinists, anarchists, Trotsky-ites and independent Marxists.
The coup was largely provoked by the rampant civil disorder these militias caused fighting one another and assassinating conservative opponents. Oh, and killing priests, nuns and burning churches. They really enjoyed that.
Franco had some unsavory folks on his team, but at least his army wasn't run by Stalin's goons and policed by the NKVD.
A good read and very informative.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'm told 'What Happened' is excellent! *hic!*
Posted by: HRC at September 24, 2017 09:31 AM (bc2Lc)
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Vic- I'm impressed that you managed to actually read The Golden Compass
series. I got about a third of the way through the first book and quit.
Just couldn't get into it, even though I was a fantasy-loving teenager
at the time. (still love fantasy, just not a teenager anymore)
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)
The first book was fair, the second was OK. I am on the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the church than the movie. After a little research I found that the media people made them tone that down a bunch in the movie.
Vic- I'm impressed that you managed to actually read The Golden Compass
series. I got about a third of the way through the first book and quit.
Just couldn't get into it, even though I was a fantasy-loving teenager
at the time. (still love fantasy, just not a teenager anymore)
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:22 AM (26lkV)
The first book was fair, the second was OK. I am on the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the church than the movie. After a little research I found that the media people made them tone that down a bunch in the movie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)
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What's "mobying" mean, pls?
(Spellcheck doesn't recognize the word either. Changed it to "mobbing" three times. Indispensable Spellcheck! -- ALWAYS helping to reduce more-or-less comprehensible prose to gibberish. ALWAYS.)
(Spellcheck doesn't recognize the word either. Changed it to "mobbing" three times. Indispensable Spellcheck! -- ALWAYS helping to reduce more-or-less comprehensible prose to gibberish. ALWAYS.)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:33 AM (v6Osy)
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Recommended here a few weeks ago, I read Hue 1968: The Turning Point of
the American War in Vietnam. This is a well-researched, well-written
book on probably the most important battle of the war. A fascinating
read.
I also read The Begger King, the third in the Hangman's
Daughter series, by Oliver Potzsch, trans. by Lee Chadeayne. This is a
multi-layered mystery, two going on at once, which I enjoyed very much.
It takes place in 1662 but the scene is not the Bavarian town of
Schongau, but rather the city of Regensburg. The reader learns much of
city life at this time while trying to unravel the two mysteries each
with its twists and turns.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (go62B)
It wasn't really a turning point. It was a major loss for the North and their surrogates the Cong. It was made to look lie a loss to the US and a disaster because Democrat liberal in the MFM lied constantly about it and the whole shebang.
Recommended here a few weeks ago, I read Hue 1968: The Turning Point of
the American War in Vietnam. This is a well-researched, well-written
book on probably the most important battle of the war. A fascinating
read.
I also read The Begger King, the third in the Hangman's
Daughter series, by Oliver Potzsch, trans. by Lee Chadeayne. This is a
multi-layered mystery, two going on at once, which I enjoyed very much.
It takes place in 1662 but the scene is not the Bavarian town of
Schongau, but rather the city of Regensburg. The reader learns much of
city life at this time while trying to unravel the two mysteries each
with its twists and turns.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:25 AM (go62B)
It wasn't really a turning point. It was a major loss for the North and their surrogates the Cong. It was made to look lie a loss to the US and a disaster because Democrat liberal in the MFM lied constantly about it and the whole shebang.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:35 AM (mpXpK)
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I'm grinding my way through Hugh Thomas' "The Spanish Civil War."
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)
Added to my to-read list, because I don't know nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the conflict.
I'm grinding my way through Hugh Thomas' "The Spanish Civil War."
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 09:30 AM (cfSRQ)
Added to my to-read list, because I don't know nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the conflict.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:36 AM (26lkV)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
Man, my reading has been slow lately. I blame long work days and online poker. Need to re-establish my priorities.
I am still working on Meditations, but haven't been that into it. I've also been reading the Law Dog Files before bed, and that's been entertaining. *Sighs...humans.
Man, my reading has been slow lately. I blame long work days and online poker. Need to re-establish my priorities.
I am still working on Meditations, but haven't been that into it. I've also been reading the Law Dog Files before bed, and that's been entertaining. *Sighs...humans.
Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 09:37 AM (e8PP1)
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What's "mobying" mean, pls?
(Spellcheck doesn't recognize the word either. Changed it to
"mobbing" three times. Indispensable Spellcheck! -- ALWAYS helping to
reduce more-or-less comprehensible prose to gibberish. ALWAYS.)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:33 AM (v6Osy)
A Moby is a liberal troll who logs onto a conservative site and poses as a conservative and posts real hardcore crap like hate speech to give real conservatives a bad name.
What's "mobying" mean, pls?
(Spellcheck doesn't recognize the word either. Changed it to
"mobbing" three times. Indispensable Spellcheck! -- ALWAYS helping to
reduce more-or-less comprehensible prose to gibberish. ALWAYS.)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:33 AM (v6Osy)
A Moby is a liberal troll who logs onto a conservative site and poses as a conservative and posts real hardcore crap like hate speech to give real conservatives a bad name.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:37 AM (mpXpK)
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moby =>" An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question."
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 09:38 AM (QC/4S)
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Zoltan, I did read the Hangman's Daughter a couple of weeks ago. Must have been you who recommended it originally? It was a good read, and I'll likely pick up the others.
Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 09:38 AM (e8PP1)
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The first book was fair, the second was OK. I am on
the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first
book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the
church than the movie. After a little research I found that the media
people made them tone that down a bunch in the movie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)
Wow, a Hollywood film that actually backed away from criticizing religion? When was the last time that happened?
Don't mind me; I'm feeling a little snarky today
the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first
book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the
church than the movie. After a little research I found that the media
people made them tone that down a bunch in the movie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)
Wow, a Hollywood film that actually backed away from criticizing religion? When was the last time that happened?
Don't mind me; I'm feeling a little snarky today
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (26lkV)
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>>>In addition, this new edition offers a much broader representation of women authors, such as Charlotte Brontë, Emily Dickinson and Edith Wharton, as well as non-Western writers such as Confucius, Sun-Tzu, Chinua Achebe, Mishima Yukio and many others.
I only see one black man on that list. I better be one of the "many others".
I only see one black man on that list. I better be one of the "many others".
Posted by: Ta Nehisi-Coates at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (/qEW2)
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OMG, I love the library - with all those cozy little book-lined nooks, with comfortable chairs and reading lights! Why couldn't my college have had a library like that! I'd have never left. (Well,mostly because my college was a state uni established sometime at mid-20th century with ghastly modern architecture...)
Working on stuff this week, little time for reading. Did venture into a copy of Larousse' "Gastronomique" for reasons of research for the latest Luna City romp. It's basically an extensive encyclopedia of classic French cooking, and about the size of a big city yellow page phone book. Everything about French cooking that you didn't know and were afraid to ask.
Working on stuff this week, little time for reading. Did venture into a copy of Larousse' "Gastronomique" for reasons of research for the latest Luna City romp. It's basically an extensive encyclopedia of classic French cooking, and about the size of a big city yellow page phone book. Everything about French cooking that you didn't know and were afraid to ask.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (xnmPy)
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I agree with you, Vic. It will be interesting how Burns handles the battle in his Vietnam series on PBS.
I agree with you, Vic. It will be interesting how Burns handles the battle in his Vietnam series on PBS.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:40 AM (go62B)
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Nice library. I wonder if Hillary & Bill ever made out there.
*gag*
*gag*
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 24, 2017 09:40 AM (hMwEB)
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Good morning, book worm morons!
I decided to make Sundays "Faith Fiction" day at my blog.
Today is a science fiction novel that features Catholic nuns , in space!
Check it out later when the book thread winds down.
link in nic
I decided to make Sundays "Faith Fiction" day at my blog.
Today is a science fiction novel that features Catholic nuns , in space!
Check it out later when the book thread winds down.
link in nic
Posted by: @votermom @vm pimping great books usually free or sale at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (hMwEB)
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1 Welcome to the AoSHq Book Thread, A fusion of Enlightenment and Entertainment
( Muldoon put me up to this and I'm not doing it again)
Alternatively - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a Frisson of Enlightenment and Entertainment.
Better still, and upholding the stereotype of morons - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a compendium of reviews and observations on books and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read.
1 Welcome to the AoSHq Book Thread, A fusion of Enlightenment and Entertainment
( Muldoon put me up to this and I'm not doing it again)
Alternatively - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a Frisson of Enlightenment and Entertainment.
Better still, and upholding the stereotype of morons - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a compendium of reviews and observations on books and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (eFRS+)
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30 Wow, a Hollywood film that actually backed away from criticizing religion? When was the last time that happened?
Don't mind me; I'm feeling a little snarky today
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (26lkV)
Well they didn't go that far. The movie was still very critical of the church, but not nearly so much as the book. And remember, these are supposed to be "children's books".
Don't mind me; I'm feeling a little snarky today
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:39 AM (26lkV)
Well they didn't go that far. The movie was still very critical of the church, but not nearly so much as the book. And remember, these are supposed to be "children's books".
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (mpXpK)
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. Got some Shakespeare, a bio of Georgiana, Duchess of Devonshire, and a few other interesting-looking ones. - rwy
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I thoroughly enjoyed the bio of Georgiana. Highly recommended. Sympathetic, but not sycophantic. The beautiful portraits also make a difference. My favorite of all: playing 'so big' with her toddler.
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I thoroughly enjoyed the bio of Georgiana. Highly recommended. Sympathetic, but not sycophantic. The beautiful portraits also make a difference. My favorite of all: playing 'so big' with her toddler.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (MIKMs)
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20 AHL
Good post.
One comment re: "a rare instance where history wasn't written by the victors"
To find the last time when "history was written (only) by the victors," I contend you'd have to go back to some war where one of the belligerents was a pre-literate society-- the American Indian wars, for example.
More often, it's hard to get the defeated to shut the F up! The Spanish Civil War is an EXCELLENT example of that.
You could stock a whole library with the self-delusions of the vanquished.
Good post.
One comment re: "a rare instance where history wasn't written by the victors"
To find the last time when "history was written (only) by the victors," I contend you'd have to go back to some war where one of the belligerents was a pre-literate society-- the American Indian wars, for example.
More often, it's hard to get the defeated to shut the F up! The Spanish Civil War is an EXCELLENT example of that.
You could stock a whole library with the self-delusions of the vanquished.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:43 AM (v6Osy)
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I agree with you, Vic. It will be interesting how Burns handles the battle in his Vietnam series on PBS.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:40 AM (go62B)
I will not watch anything that he is associated with.
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I agree with you, Vic. It will be interesting how Burns handles the battle in his Vietnam series on PBS.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:40 AM (go62B)
I will not watch anything that he is associated with.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:43 AM (mpXpK)
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April, I can't take the credit. It was originally recommended here a few months ago. I'm glad the author developed it into a series. I'm enjoying them very much.
April, I can't take the credit. It was originally recommended here a few months ago. I'm glad the author developed it into a series. I'm enjoying them very much.
Posted by: Zoltan at September 24, 2017 09:44 AM (go62B)
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Besides that, I doubt if I could get it if I wanted to. No longer have cable or satellite.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:47 AM (mpXpK)
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Spent many hours in Sanborn library, since I was an English major. They used to serve tea. Very civilized.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of Akbar at September 24, 2017 09:47 AM (Id9+8)
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re: moby
Thx, Vic & runner
I would have described that as 'false flag' posts, but I like moby much better.
Thx, Vic & runner
I would have described that as 'false flag' posts, but I like moby much better.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:48 AM (v6Osy)
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<ditches Akbar sock>
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess of Akbar at September 24, 2017 09:48 AM (Id9+8)
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<second attempt>
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (Id9+8)
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I finished "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. Beyond its philosophical benefits, which are legion, it has led me to later writings that echo his ideas and methods. That includes poetry, essays, novels, history (especially where the importance of the individual is stressed), and religion. I haven't really started on the other classic Stoic writers yet, but I have the books and will read them over the winter, especially "Letters From a Stoic" and the writings of Epictitus. I'm so glad the Goodreads group chose "Meditations", it has opened a huge number of doors to go through, each with its own value.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (V+03K)
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Clifton Fadiman?
Now there is a name I haven't heard (or read) since Jr. High in the late 60's. We would go to the cafeteria and be bored-to-death as he lectured us on story structure.
Now there is a name I haven't heard (or read) since Jr. High in the late 60's. We would go to the cafeteria and be bored-to-death as he lectured us on story structure.
Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (UnDQI)
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I thoroughly enjoyed the bio of Georgiana. Highly
recommended. Sympathetic, but not sycophantic. The beautiful portraits
also make a difference. My favorite of all: playing 'so big' with her
toddler.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (MIKMs)
Aww, that's cute. I haven't gotten very far into the book; she's married, but no children yet.
recommended. Sympathetic, but not sycophantic. The beautiful portraits
also make a difference. My favorite of all: playing 'so big' with her
toddler.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (MIKMs)
Aww, that's cute. I haven't gotten very far into the book; she's married, but no children yet.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (26lkV)
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I recently finished Giles Milton's Churchill's Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare: The Mavericks Who Plotted Hitler's Defeat. It was a quick and enjoyable read. Thanks to the horde for the recommendations regarding this book.
I also finished Len Deighton's Bomber (1970), a gripping fictionalized account of a single night's RAF bombing raid in June 1943. Deighton read over 200 books in researching the story, which is told through the eyes of a huge cast of characters on both sides. Deighton at the peak of his literary form and really deserves to be considered a serious writer and not just a genre author. I highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in the subject.
I also finished Len Deighton's Bomber (1970), a gripping fictionalized account of a single night's RAF bombing raid in June 1943. Deighton read over 200 books in researching the story, which is told through the eyes of a huge cast of characters on both sides. Deighton at the peak of his literary form and really deserves to be considered a serious writer and not just a genre author. I highly recommend it to anyone who is interested in the subject.
Posted by: cool breeze at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (TKf/P)
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Read Elizabeth Kostova "The Shadow land" .
I received this book free as Goodreads giveaway book.
When
I received this book I have not read another book by this author. So I
decided to read The Historian and The Shadow Land back to back.
There
is a similar style to these books. They are set in a similar country.
Yet these were different genres, which I did not expect. The Historian
is mystical novel and The Shadow Land is more historical/political
thriller.
Both books are good (4 stars for both books) but I liked The Shadow Land more.
I
liked it more probably because I prefer political thrillers to vampire
books and, as immigrant from the former USSR, political part/communist
Gulag camp part of book spoke to me more.
It started a little slow but I could not put the book down for the last 150 pages.
I would highly recommend this book.
I received this book free as Goodreads giveaway book.
When
I received this book I have not read another book by this author. So I
decided to read The Historian and The Shadow Land back to back.
There
is a similar style to these books. They are set in a similar country.
Yet these were different genres, which I did not expect. The Historian
is mystical novel and The Shadow Land is more historical/political
thriller.
Both books are good (4 stars for both books) but I liked The Shadow Land more.
I
liked it more probably because I prefer political thrillers to vampire
books and, as immigrant from the former USSR, political part/communist
Gulag camp part of book spoke to me more.
It started a little slow but I could not put the book down for the last 150 pages.
I would highly recommend this book.
Posted by: redmonkey at September 24, 2017 09:49 AM (ntMM4)
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Good Morning Book Horde! I just finished reading "The Last Voyage of the USS Pueblo" by Ed Brandt, about the capture of the Pueblo & imprisonment of her crew by the NORKs. The NORKS are nuts - paranoid, delusional, cruel & childlike. They're what happens if SJWs run a country.
Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (ANIFC)
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That library looks suspiciously like many other library pictures. Wood, books, tables, chandeliers. Except for that one from THE Ohio State University.
Painted portraits of famous founders does seem to be missing in this view. Perhaps those portraits are in another room.
Painted portraits of famous founders does seem to be missing in this view. Perhaps those portraits are in another room.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (m9X4Y)
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I finished Andrew Klavan's "The Great Good Thing" A Secular Jew comes to faith in Christ.
Just excellent. Holy crap. His dad was a piece of "work."
Just excellent. Holy crap. His dad was a piece of "work."
Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 09:51 AM (UnDQI)
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Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.
Soon they'll be kneeling for nearly empty stadiums.
Well done guys, well done. You too Goodell...way to run a league into the ground.
Soon they'll be kneeling for nearly empty stadiums.
Well done guys, well done. You too Goodell...way to run a league into the ground.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM (Enq6K)
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I'm still plugging away on "The Long Fuse" -- a history explaining in detail how British govt policies & actions brought on the Revolutionary War.
Among other things, this book has increased my admiration for Ben Franklin, and it was already very high.
Among other things, this book has increased my admiration for Ben Franklin, and it was already very high.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:53 AM (v6Osy)
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I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.
Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there? He isn't fit to tie Lewis' shoes.
I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.
Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there? He isn't fit to tie Lewis' shoes.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 24, 2017 09:53 AM (iVOAv)
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Thanks, OregonMuse, for addressing the big question. I'm naturally a bit of a worry wart and have stewed about the left breaking down trust and appreciation between different segments of society and about the Rule of Law being replaced with the Rule of Whatever Advances the Left's Agenda, not to mention the mass delusion and hysteria by people who really shouldn't be mentally ill.
If there's a problem, obsessing about it doesn't help. I'd rather take constructive action.
I'm just really at a loss. Is there really anything we can do to keep representatives we send to D.C. from turning into swamp creatures who decide not to represent us after all?
I'm a community college instructor. I'm very aware that anything I say that contains common sense will be perceived as icky and inappropriate politicizing while lefty colleagues can say the most outrageous lefty things and they're "cool."
So I pray and vote and try to pay attention so I don't vote stupidly. But it seems to make so little difference.
Mockery may be a useful tool, but I'm not terribly skilled at it. I think of the good comebacks two weeks later.
About the only thing I'm good at in this arena is maintaining an independent mind.
If there's a problem, obsessing about it doesn't help. I'd rather take constructive action.
I'm just really at a loss. Is there really anything we can do to keep representatives we send to D.C. from turning into swamp creatures who decide not to represent us after all?
I'm a community college instructor. I'm very aware that anything I say that contains common sense will be perceived as icky and inappropriate politicizing while lefty colleagues can say the most outrageous lefty things and they're "cool."
So I pray and vote and try to pay attention so I don't vote stupidly. But it seems to make so little difference.
Mockery may be a useful tool, but I'm not terribly skilled at it. I think of the good comebacks two weeks later.
About the only thing I'm good at in this arena is maintaining an independent mind.
Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 09:54 AM (ZapPq)
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Morning, Literary Hordlings.
Back from a week's leave, where i got a lot of writing done (my grandfather's life and heroic escapades). Def have my enthusiasm for the project back up, and making solid progress. Also learning a lot (not surprising). How many of you knew that when Pancho Villa raided Columbus, NMex. (prompting the Punitive Incursion, which involved my g/f), he got his ass kicked, royally, by the 13th Cavalry?
Back from a week's leave, where i got a lot of writing done (my grandfather's life and heroic escapades). Def have my enthusiasm for the project back up, and making solid progress. Also learning a lot (not surprising). How many of you knew that when Pancho Villa raided Columbus, NMex. (prompting the Punitive Incursion, which involved my g/f), he got his ass kicked, royally, by the 13th Cavalry?
Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 09:55 AM (YFnq5)
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OM, Thanks for the book thread, of course, and for that photo of the Dartmouth library. Just as well I didn't go to Dartmouth. I would still be in that library, reading, enjoying the fire place and sipping tea. Perhaps have a smoking lounge to puff on a pipe of good tobacco while enjoying the above features.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (V+03K)
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Oh, for any horde members who use tablets. My best investment ($10) was a bluetooth keyboard. Kidlet #4 got a gift tablet, but it was unusable for anything but reading until we figured out that an external keyboard made it into a computer. Rather than trying to fat-finger comments or instructions, it is easy to use a familiar keyboard.
Oh, for any horde members who use tablets. My best investment ($10) was a bluetooth keyboard. Kidlet #4 got a gift tablet, but it was unusable for anything but reading until we figured out that an external keyboard made it into a computer. Rather than trying to fat-finger comments or instructions, it is easy to use a familiar keyboard.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (MIKMs)
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Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there?
Yes, there's so much to be written about NON-belief. (!)
Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there?
Yes, there's so much to be written about NON-belief. (!)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (oVJmc)
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All righty, fellow Book Threadists; I'm going to exercise a horse before
she's starts thinking I've forgotten about her. Catch y'all later.
she's starts thinking I've forgotten about her. Catch y'all later.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:56 AM (26lkV)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 09:57 AM (v6Osy)
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Added to my to-read list, because I don't know
nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that
war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for
either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the
conflict.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:36 AM (26lkV)
Hugh Thomas is a good writer, but he clearly sympathizes with the Republic. Still, he's honest and when he describes "life behind the lines" as the war settles in, he admits that things were a lot more normal with the rebels than with the Republic. He also notes that there was a steady stream of emigration from the Republican zone to the Nationalist one.
Part of the reason is that he points out that Franco didn't really have an ideology. In fact, once the coup failed and the drive to Madrid stalled, Franco had to come up with what exactly his movement stood for. Hitler sent some Nazi missionaries and Franco tolerated them only so that he could get munitions and aircraft (like the Condor Legion).
Same with Mussolini. Franco didn't like or trust either of them, but needed their help. So he kept them at arm's length as best he could and then cobbled together a sort of nationalist-catholic movement.
The Republic was a madhouse by comparison. Whole regions became anarchists self-governing communes (yes, like Monty Python). There were constant squabbles, intrigues and murders squads running around. And then the Russians showed up.
I could go on, but it's amazing just how screwed up the Republic really was and how for all their romantic notions of revolution, they mostly created famine (shocking!) and secret prisons and lots of purges. One of the darkly ironic twists (which Thomas repeatedly points out) is how Stalin's advisors go over there, try to win and when things go bad do their best to escape back to friendly lines, only to get a bullet when they get back to Russia.
Anyone who mourns the Republic needs to explain how a Stalinist Spain was going to be an improvement.
nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that
war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for
either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the
conflict.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:36 AM (26lkV)
Hugh Thomas is a good writer, but he clearly sympathizes with the Republic. Still, he's honest and when he describes "life behind the lines" as the war settles in, he admits that things were a lot more normal with the rebels than with the Republic. He also notes that there was a steady stream of emigration from the Republican zone to the Nationalist one.
Part of the reason is that he points out that Franco didn't really have an ideology. In fact, once the coup failed and the drive to Madrid stalled, Franco had to come up with what exactly his movement stood for. Hitler sent some Nazi missionaries and Franco tolerated them only so that he could get munitions and aircraft (like the Condor Legion).
Same with Mussolini. Franco didn't like or trust either of them, but needed their help. So he kept them at arm's length as best he could and then cobbled together a sort of nationalist-catholic movement.
The Republic was a madhouse by comparison. Whole regions became anarchists self-governing communes (yes, like Monty Python). There were constant squabbles, intrigues and murders squads running around. And then the Russians showed up.
I could go on, but it's amazing just how screwed up the Republic really was and how for all their romantic notions of revolution, they mostly created famine (shocking!) and secret prisons and lots of purges. One of the darkly ironic twists (which Thomas repeatedly points out) is how Stalin's advisors go over there, try to win and when things go bad do their best to escape back to friendly lines, only to get a bullet when they get back to Russia.
Anyone who mourns the Republic needs to explain how a Stalinist Spain was going to be an improvement.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 09:58 AM (cfSRQ)
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Still reading Stephenson's The Diamond Age.
Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.
Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)
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66 Still reading Stephenson's The Diamond Age.
Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)
So you're saying it went south?
Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)
So you're saying it went south?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 10:00 AM (NWiLs)
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What C. Chancy wrote sounds interesting. It was very rare even before Twilight gabble to have actual heroes versus monsters.
Not sure if the manga Silent Mobius would appeal to Ms. Chancy or not. Young Katsumi Liqueur returns from Hawaii to visit her sick mother in Tokyo, a Tokyo more akin to Blade Runner since the mysterious events of 1999. In Japan she finds out about her heritage, that she is the daughter of one of the greatest sorcerers and that demons, Lucifer Hawks, want to use her to open a gate to their world of Nemesis.
Not sure if the manga Silent Mobius would appeal to Ms. Chancy or not. Young Katsumi Liqueur returns from Hawaii to visit her sick mother in Tokyo, a Tokyo more akin to Blade Runner since the mysterious events of 1999. In Japan she finds out about her heritage, that she is the daughter of one of the greatest sorcerers and that demons, Lucifer Hawks, want to use her to open a gate to their world of Nemesis.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:01 AM (Ktewm)
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As u likely know, that war was so bitter, the Red Cross generally couldn't arrange one-for-one POW exchanges. Both sides preferred to shoot their enemies, & let their own soldiers die.
Now THAT's some kinda intense hatred right there!
As u likely know, that war was so bitter, the Red Cross generally couldn't arrange one-for-one POW exchanges. Both sides preferred to shoot their enemies, & let their own soldiers die.
Now THAT's some kinda intense hatred right there!
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (v6Osy)
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I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.
Did he kill off those polar bears that were in the movie? That would be plagiarism.
Did he kill off those polar bears that were in the movie? That would be plagiarism.
Posted by: Al Gore at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (/qEW2)
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55; the nfl can't go away fast enough fot me. i'm done with those assholes.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (KP5rU)
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The first book was fair, the second was OK. I am on
the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first
book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the
church than the movie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)
Pullman was (is) an atheist who wanted to be the anti-CS Lewis. Not sure if he succeeded.
the third now and sort of getting tired of it. I did find that the first
book which the movie was based on was much much more critical of the
church than the movie.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 09:32 AM (mpXpK)
Pullman was (is) an atheist who wanted to be the anti-CS Lewis. Not sure if he succeeded.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:03 AM (gG2l4)
73
(Dating myself), the NFL started to go downhill when it dropped 'Confidence' as its theme song.
Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:04 AM (YFnq5)
74
Better still, and upholding the stereotype of morons - Welcome to the AoSHQ Book Thread, a compendium of reviews and observations on books and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (eFRS+)
I really like this. I may have to steal it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 09:42 AM (eFRS+)
I really like this. I may have to steal it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:04 AM (gG2l4)
75
Finished The World Island - Eurasian Geopolitics and the Fate of the West by Alexandros Petersen. As opposed to Alfred T. Mahan's assertion that seapower and control of strategic sea lanes were key control measures, Sir Galford Mackinder proposed the World Island was key (basically much of greater Russia and its former Soviet Republics) to control. His Heartland Theory, introduced in the early 1900s is reviewed, along with the derivative theories of containment (George Kennan) and Prometheism - Intermarum (Josef Pilsudski). After laying out these ideas, their roles in today's geopolitical sphere is discussed, along with an assessment of how nation states in the World Island may be constructively engaged by the Western World, which lies outside the World Island.
This is a relatively unengaging work to read and, despite its 2011 publication date, it is somewhat outdated with events in Ukraine and Afghanistan having moved on considerably from what the author wrote. It is interesting to note though (and the author does not), that the countries in Europe who are resisting the onslaught of Moslem refugees are those of Eastern Europe in the Intermarum region (Poland and Hungary, to name just two). If history of geopolitical ideas floats your boat, this book is one answer.
Finished The World Island - Eurasian Geopolitics and the Fate of the West by Alexandros Petersen. As opposed to Alfred T. Mahan's assertion that seapower and control of strategic sea lanes were key control measures, Sir Galford Mackinder proposed the World Island was key (basically much of greater Russia and its former Soviet Republics) to control. His Heartland Theory, introduced in the early 1900s is reviewed, along with the derivative theories of containment (George Kennan) and Prometheism - Intermarum (Josef Pilsudski). After laying out these ideas, their roles in today's geopolitical sphere is discussed, along with an assessment of how nation states in the World Island may be constructively engaged by the Western World, which lies outside the World Island.
This is a relatively unengaging work to read and, despite its 2011 publication date, it is somewhat outdated with events in Ukraine and Afghanistan having moved on considerably from what the author wrote. It is interesting to note though (and the author does not), that the countries in Europe who are resisting the onslaught of Moslem refugees are those of Eastern Europe in the Intermarum region (Poland and Hungary, to name just two). If history of geopolitical ideas floats your boat, this book is one answer.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 10:05 AM (eFRS+)
76
Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM
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Idiots. And especially funny: standing for the Brits who colonized Africa. WTG History majors!
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM
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Idiots. And especially funny: standing for the Brits who colonized Africa. WTG History majors!
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 10:05 AM (HiDrR)
77
My 1st post this week and last was due to a comment by Muldoon in that he was glad he didn't see Glen Beck's radio opening here.
Well he got it, though he may not know it.
Well he got it, though he may not know it.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:06 AM (ghofu)
78
Of *course* progressives are mentally ill. You can't force your mind to believe obviously untrue and ridiculous things day in and day out for years on end and expect that nothing will go wrong.
This. And I hate to see it happen to people I love.
This. And I hate to see it happen to people I love.
Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (ZapPq)
79
67 66 Couldn't get through The Golden Compass. Too much meandering and exposition.
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)
So you're saying it went south?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 10:00 AM (NWiLs)
Ha! More like it went nowhere!
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 09:59 AM (yODqO)
So you're saying it went south?
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 10:00 AM (NWiLs)
Ha! More like it went nowhere!
Posted by: sinalco at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (yODqO)
80
Well done guys, well done. You too Goodell...way to run a league into the ground.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM (Enq6K)
I don't think that pudgy pile of shit has worked outside of the league which shows the idiocy of hiring someone for the job with no outside perspective for a fucking sports organization. I'm sure owners like Kraft hate him and can only think of lib shitheads like Rooney that like him, although it must be full of scum and villainy for the way they treated Rush when he unwisely wanted to squander his jack on part ownership of the Iggles.
As far as reading, I made some headway in The Luminaries which is becoming an increasingly convoluted puzzle around just WTF happened regarding a hermit and some other secretive person getting killed or disappearing in gold rush mid 19th century New Zealand. Other than that not much since my time was overly spent helping Mrs Hate get ready for a garage sale which is mercifully over.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 09:52 AM (Enq6K)
I don't think that pudgy pile of shit has worked outside of the league which shows the idiocy of hiring someone for the job with no outside perspective for a fucking sports organization. I'm sure owners like Kraft hate him and can only think of lib shitheads like Rooney that like him, although it must be full of scum and villainy for the way they treated Rush when he unwisely wanted to squander his jack on part ownership of the Iggles.
As far as reading, I made some headway in The Luminaries which is becoming an increasingly convoluted puzzle around just WTF happened regarding a hermit and some other secretive person getting killed or disappearing in gold rush mid 19th century New Zealand. Other than that not much since my time was overly spent helping Mrs Hate get ready for a garage sale which is mercifully over.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (y7DUB)
81
Personally, I won't pay more than five bucks for an eBook.
Speaking of eBook pricing, Torchship - Torchship Pilot - Torchship Captain (recommended by Sarah Hoyt over at Instapundit) was good enough to keep me entertained for three days while I binged on escape from reality.
The heroine is an interesting character in the first book. Turns a little dark and gritty as the series progresses. (Too much sex in it for my taste. I don't like sex in my science fiction, and I don't like science fiction lumped in with fantasy. Science should be science, not magic.)
The ending of the set left me unsatisfied. They were three dollar books selling for five bucks, and very popular on Amazon. The setting is a mix of early twentieth century steam punk (the analog ships of the disconnected), and mid twenty first century, totally connected digital networked society. The digital society breaks down into factions, and evil Artificial Intelligence lurks at the fringes. Interesting enough if you are trying to escape from reality.
I gave them three 'mehs'.
As far as MSWord goes, use the older versions if you can. The new Office 365 is now an annual subscription just to use the software. You don't own it, you rent it, and it requires an internet connection.
Speaking of eBook pricing, Torchship - Torchship Pilot - Torchship Captain (recommended by Sarah Hoyt over at Instapundit) was good enough to keep me entertained for three days while I binged on escape from reality.
The heroine is an interesting character in the first book. Turns a little dark and gritty as the series progresses. (Too much sex in it for my taste. I don't like sex in my science fiction, and I don't like science fiction lumped in with fantasy. Science should be science, not magic.)
The ending of the set left me unsatisfied. They were three dollar books selling for five bucks, and very popular on Amazon. The setting is a mix of early twentieth century steam punk (the analog ships of the disconnected), and mid twenty first century, totally connected digital networked society. The digital society breaks down into factions, and evil Artificial Intelligence lurks at the fringes. Interesting enough if you are trying to escape from reality.
I gave them three 'mehs'.
As far as MSWord goes, use the older versions if you can. The new Office 365 is now an annual subscription just to use the software. You don't own it, you rent it, and it requires an internet connection.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (m9X4Y)
82
This isn't about reading but writing. We get MeTV on the OTA rabbit ears and have watched a bunch of Have Gun Will Travel episodes. I sort of remembered it from the late 1950s and early 60s, always in black and white. It isn't just a shoot-em-up. I am astonished by the quality of the writing. In a half hour show there are plot twists, story and character development, quotes and references to the Bible, classic philosophy, literature, and history. And it was assumed the audience would get and appreciate the references. It puts modern TV show writing in the 'see Spot run' level but without the creativity. Amazing.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 10:09 AM (V+03K)
83
LOL - think someone should educate those 'woke' NFLers about the role the UK played in: the Caribbean Sugar Industry; the Slave Triangle; the Georgia, Carolina, etc. Crown Colonies.....?
God Save the Queen indeed.
God Save the Queen indeed.
Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:09 AM (YFnq5)
84
There is a Prager U video on the effects of British colonization and how it favorably the best thing that could have happened. Many countries from India to Africa still use British government and court systems long after they no longer have any control over their country.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (ghofu)
85
OT, but a baseball player took a knee last night.
Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is, as if dissing the national anthem isn't divisive. Now I'm all pissed off and I haven't even had coffee yet.
Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is, as if dissing the national anthem isn't divisive. Now I'm all pissed off and I haven't even had coffee yet.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)
Posted by: naturalfake at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (9q7Dl)
87
Recommendations, anyone? My grandson will be 11 in November. He watches every WWII documentary he can find, as well as WWI and VietNam. He looks up to his uncle and grandfather, new and old Marines. We think the kid is going to follow that path.
Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.
Thanks!
Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.
Thanks!
Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)
88
Here is a question for the more well rounded and erudite of the Literary Horde, which Thorne Smith novel should I start with? Perhaps The Night Life of the Gods? Or read Topper?
I know best not to read The Passionate Witch since it was completed by another author after Smith's death. Even though the delightful comedy I Married A Witch* with Veronica Lake and Frederick March is based off it.
*Trivia just discovered. The cute as a buttons blonde girl at the end of the movie who played Veronica Lake's daughter, Ann Carter, would two years later star as Amy Reed in Curse of the Cat People.
I know best not to read The Passionate Witch since it was completed by another author after Smith's death. Even though the delightful comedy I Married A Witch* with Veronica Lake and Frederick March is based off it.
*Trivia just discovered. The cute as a buttons blonde girl at the end of the movie who played Veronica Lake's daughter, Ann Carter, would two years later star as Amy Reed in Curse of the Cat People.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:12 AM (Ktewm)
89
Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
What a silly man. You don't put out "alternatives" that only non-believers will read. You try to find some way to co-opt the original and then alter its message. Like adding a new 8th Narnia book in which Aslan is revealed to be merely an advanced alien life form ... hmmm. Wonder who holds the copyright... Everyone has his price.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
What a silly man. You don't put out "alternatives" that only non-believers will read. You try to find some way to co-opt the original and then alter its message. Like adding a new 8th Narnia book in which Aslan is revealed to be merely an advanced alien life form ... hmmm. Wonder who holds the copyright... Everyone has his price.
Posted by: Marvel Comics at September 24, 2017 10:12 AM (/qEW2)
90
That library looks suspiciously like many other library pictures. Wood, books, tables, chandeliers. Except for that one from THE Ohio State University.
Painted portraits of famous founders does seem to be missing in this view. Perhaps those portraits are in another room.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (m9X4Y)
Sanford Library is the one exclusively for the English department. The main library is known for its Orozco frescoes (disturbing and frankly not the kind of art I enjoy). Don't recall if there were any portraits or not. I do recall the bust of Craven Laycock, though - who could forget a name like that?
Painted portraits of famous founders does seem to be missing in this view. Perhaps those portraits are in another room.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 09:50 AM (m9X4Y)
Sanford Library is the one exclusively for the English department. The main library is known for its Orozco frescoes (disturbing and frankly not the kind of art I enjoy). Don't recall if there were any portraits or not. I do recall the bust of Craven Laycock, though - who could forget a name like that?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 24, 2017 10:13 AM (Id9+8)
91
Aaaack! Harold Bloom. Picked up one of his analysis books and was underwhelmed. I think I had him confuzzled with Allan Bloom of 'Closing of the American Mind' infamy. Allan Bloom also had reading lists at the back of his book: very much the Western Civilization canon. I think because he was from U of Chicago, his attitude was formed by Britannica (also out of Chicago) and Great Books (ditto). Harvard Classics was more pop lit (of the time) rather than historical.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:13 AM (MIKMs)
92
Reading report: Had to put down the excellent The Everlasting Man (recommended by the Horde -- thanks!) because this semester is kicking my keister.
Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:13 AM (ZapPq)
93
70 Did he kill off those polar bears that were in the movie? That would be plagiarism.
Posted by: Al Gore at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (/qEW2)
No but he had one of them complaining because the water was heating up and destroying their ice habitat forcing them to move to the mountains. That was one of the "subtle hints" I was talking about.
Posted by: Al Gore at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (/qEW2)
No but he had one of them complaining because the water was heating up and destroying their ice habitat forcing them to move to the mountains. That was one of the "subtle hints" I was talking about.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:14 AM (mpXpK)
94
April - if you can find them, Robb White is an excellent writer for that age and subject. great series of books. I even found some editions for my own son, and he loved them.
A Boy Ten Feet Tall by Canaway.
Peter Benchley's Girl of the Sea of Cortez.
The Shepherd by Frederick Forsyth.
They are a little mature.. but the original Conan series
A Boy Ten Feet Tall by Canaway.
Peter Benchley's Girl of the Sea of Cortez.
The Shepherd by Frederick Forsyth.
They are a little mature.. but the original Conan series
Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (YFnq5)
95
Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.
Thanks!
Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)
Rush wrote some children's book on the Revolutionary war.
Here's an Amazon link to them:
http://tinyurl.com/ycbv2hkz
Thanks!
Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)
Rush wrote some children's book on the Revolutionary war.
Here's an Amazon link to them:
http://tinyurl.com/ycbv2hkz
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (Enq6K)
96
BF and I met at the library. He initiated encounter.
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (eO2Z0)
97
Right Wing Yankee. Or you skip Office and just use OpenOffice that will read Microsoft formats.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:15 AM (Ktewm)
98
Spanish Cicil war, Guernica, Picasso.
My knowledge of what went on there is somewhat superficial, but I would not say that Franco did not have an ideology.
My knowledge of what went on there is somewhat superficial, but I would not say that Franco did not have an ideology.
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:16 AM (QC/4S)
99
Skip, I enjoyed your "first" and I don't even listen to Beck on purpose. 
Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:16 AM (ZapPq)
100
Oh, thank you Miley. You reminded me of something I forgot to add in my comment.
The great old classic authors of literature are out of copyright, in most cases, and you can get their complete works in compendiums for 99 cents on amazon.
More stuff than I can read, even with nothing else to do.
The great old classic authors of literature are out of copyright, in most cases, and you can get their complete works in compendiums for 99 cents on amazon.
More stuff than I can read, even with nothing else to do.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (m9X4Y)
101
81 As far as MSWord goes, use the older versions if you
can. The new Office 365 is now an annual subscription just to use the
software. You don't own it, you rent it, and it requires an internet
connection.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (m9X4Y)
MSWORD older versions will not work with WIN 10, go to open office. Or use Windows 7 or 8 if you can find a computer that comes loaded with that.
can. The new Office 365 is now an annual subscription just to use the
software. You don't own it, you rent it, and it requires an internet
connection.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 10:08 AM (m9X4Y)
MSWORD older versions will not work with WIN 10, go to open office. Or use Windows 7 or 8 if you can find a computer that comes loaded with that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (mpXpK)
102
Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is, as if dissing the national anthem isn't divisive. Now I'm all pissed off and I haven't even had coffee yet.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)
She gets so animated that she might blow out her series of facelifts. She seems very emotionally unstable; IOW a child's garden of the personification of negative stereotypes.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)
She gets so animated that she might blow out her series of facelifts. She seems very emotionally unstable; IOW a child's garden of the personification of negative stereotypes.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (y7DUB)
103
For those interested in the Spanish Civil War, I recommend Stephen Hunter's "A Tapestry of Spies". Fiction, but well researched. And a damned good story. If you're a Bob Lee and Earl fan, you will notice echoes of this book in some of the characters in their later stories.
Posted by: Joe Biden at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (IJX6l)
104
Robb White is an excellent writer
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I read 'Secret Sea' about 400 times in fourth grade. I had to buy another one because the first copy fell apart.
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I read 'Secret Sea' about 400 times in fourth grade. I had to buy another one because the first copy fell apart.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (2wRtc)
105
Also finished The Penguin Atlas of Ancient History by Colin McEvedy (Penguin refers to Penguin Books, BTW).
I am a cartophile and I love looking at maps. This book has maps showing the ebb and flow of people, trade and ideas from 50,000 BC to 362 AD. Neanderthals, Gepids, Alans, Cimmerians, Sarmatians and many more are all here. The progression from Paleolithic, Neolithic, Chalcolithic, Bronze and Iron technologies is shown for Europe, the Middle East, North Africa and Western Asia. As a thumbnail history for the sweep of empires and invaders across millennia, this book is hard to beat.
Also finished The Penguin Atlas of Ancient History by Colin McEvedy (Penguin refers to Penguin Books, BTW).
I am a cartophile and I love looking at maps. This book has maps showing the ebb and flow of people, trade and ideas from 50,000 BC to 362 AD. Neanderthals, Gepids, Alans, Cimmerians, Sarmatians and many more are all here. The progression from Paleolithic, Neolithic, Chalcolithic, Bronze and Iron technologies is shown for Europe, the Middle East, North Africa and Western Asia. As a thumbnail history for the sweep of empires and invaders across millennia, this book is hard to beat.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 10:18 AM (eFRS+)
106
Those classical literature guides sound very interesting.
Posted by: Emmie at September 24, 2017 10:18 AM (ZapPq)
107
85 stace
That happens a lot these days, doesn't it?
RE: kneeling leftwing athletes:
Some have posted that this may benefit the NHL. However, most folks don't realize that there are black players on every NHL team, I suspect. They aren't AAs, though, they are Afro-Canadians. So... maybe they'll spare us the kneeling.
That happens a lot these days, doesn't it?
RE: kneeling leftwing athletes:
Some have posted that this may benefit the NHL. However, most folks don't realize that there are black players on every NHL team, I suspect. They aren't AAs, though, they are Afro-Canadians. So... maybe they'll spare us the kneeling.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:19 AM (v6Osy)
108
Sarah Hoyt has a nice article on Our Betters-
and how their ideas have more or less stayed the same since from Nietzsche and eugenics(just new labels)-
and how they fail the basic requirements of leaders by their own definitions.
Read it all.
But, yes, mockery and denial of power is the best response.
and how their ideas have more or less stayed the same since from Nietzsche and eugenics(just new labels)-
and how they fail the basic requirements of leaders by their own definitions.
Read it all.
But, yes, mockery and denial of power is the best response.
Posted by: H. D. Woodard - "Wearing the Cat" at September 24, 2017 10:20 AM (9q7Dl)
109
For April @87 -
Constance Savery - "Enemy Brothers", Marie McSwigan "Snow Treasure". Antoni Gronowicz "Four From the Old Town" - just for starters. All set in WWII, various theaters. I'll add any more I can think of, after walking the doggles.
Constance Savery - "Enemy Brothers", Marie McSwigan "Snow Treasure". Antoni Gronowicz "Four From the Old Town" - just for starters. All set in WWII, various theaters. I'll add any more I can think of, after walking the doggles.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 24, 2017 10:20 AM (xnmPy)
110
NBA requires players to stand for the national anthems. No reason the other leagues can't do that.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:21 AM (sNESL)
111
87 ... If the boy can handle documentaries about WW II, he might like reading "Company Commander" by Charles MacDonald about the Battle of the Bulge. It is factual and not sugar coated but isn't lurid either. It was meant for average readers so he should be able to get through it without a lot of difficulty, although a dictionary nearby might help.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 10:22 AM (V+03K)
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@85
What Trump is doing is what fighting back looks like.
These disgraces have never had any pushback before so they ratchet it up to 11.
Fuck this ungrateful pieces of shit.
The NFL can die, the NBA can die and it seems as if the contagion is spreading to baseball, they can die as well.
It will be no skin of my nose because my team sucks and it looks like they aren't going to be good anytime soon.
What Trump is doing is what fighting back looks like.
These disgraces have never had any pushback before so they ratchet it up to 11.
Fuck this ungrateful pieces of shit.
The NFL can die, the NBA can die and it seems as if the contagion is spreading to baseball, they can die as well.
It will be no skin of my nose because my team sucks and it looks like they aren't going to be good anytime soon.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 10:22 AM (9A6UB)
113
In rebuke to Trump, Ravens and Jaguars take a knee in London during US national anthem
FUCK them and it is all racial.
FUCK them and it is all racial.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:22 AM (/yyMv)
114
NBA requires players to stand for the national anthems. No reason the other leagues can't do that.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:21 AM (sNESL)
That will end. There will be kneeling this year...You can bet on it
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:21 AM (sNESL)
That will end. There will be kneeling this year...You can bet on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (/yyMv)
115
I should have added that I obtained the Atlas of Ancient History at a used book sale a few years ago as the book itself was first published in 1967.
I should have added that I obtained the Atlas of Ancient History at a used book sale a few years ago as the book itself was first published in 1967.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (eFRS+)
116
So, Emmie raped Ace. What was that like?
Posted by: Corona at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (zIb93)
117
87
Recommendations, anyone? My grandson will be 11 in November. He
watches every WWII documentary he can find, as well as WWI and VietNam.
He looks up to his uncle and grandfather, new and old Marines. We think
the kid is going to follow that path.
Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much
any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him,
but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.
Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)
I highly recommend the Marine series by W.E.B. Griffin. It mostly ends in the Korean war but it is an outstanding military novel series.
This is the first book in the Marine series. He also has a series for the Army and Spies, but i didn't really care for the spy one.
http://tinyurl.com/y8bwua2z
Recommendations, anyone? My grandson will be 11 in November. He
watches every WWII documentary he can find, as well as WWI and VietNam.
He looks up to his uncle and grandfather, new and old Marines. We think
the kid is going to follow that path.
Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much
any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him,
but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.
Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:11 AM (e8PP1)
I highly recommend the Marine series by W.E.B. Griffin. It mostly ends in the Korean war but it is an outstanding military novel series.
This is the first book in the Marine series. He also has a series for the Army and Spies, but i didn't really care for the spy one.
http://tinyurl.com/y8bwua2z
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (mpXpK)
118
"The NFL can die, the NBA can die and it seems as if the contagion is spreading to baseball, they can die as well."
The NBA requires players to stand. The other leagues should copy that policy.
The NBA requires players to stand. The other leagues should copy that policy.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (sNESL)
119
NBA in the 1990s had to deal with Chris Jackson who went Islamic and changed his name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Abdul-Rauf
So as I've said before, Colin Kaperdiyck isn't even original.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Abdul-Rauf
So as I've said before, Colin Kaperdiyck isn't even original.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (Ktewm)
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Also finished The Penguin Atlas of Ancient History by Colin McEvedy (Penguin refers to Penguin Books, BTW).
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Thanks. Something I would really be interested in reading. Trying to find maps on the internet is sometimes (okay, most of the time) very frustrating. I'm much more comfortable with the old atlas that doesn't fit in any of my bookshelves.
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Thanks. Something I would really be interested in reading. Trying to find maps on the internet is sometimes (okay, most of the time) very frustrating. I'm much more comfortable with the old atlas that doesn't fit in any of my bookshelves.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (v6Osy)
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http://tinyurl.com/y7lggyzw
more : Secret Sea by Robb White
Required reading for boys. Heart-pounding treasure hunting adventure with tons of nautical lore.
more : Secret Sea by Robb White
Required reading for boys. Heart-pounding treasure hunting adventure with tons of nautical lore.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (2wRtc)
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April - more:
I think I started reading Alistair MacLean at around that age. Terrific war and spy and just general adventure stories. Can't beat his stuff.
Hornblower/Forester > Aubrey/O'Brian. Just saying. Let the slings and arrows begin.
Bernard Cornwell.
Bios - Douglas Bader, Baden-Powell, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, Beryl Markham.
I think I started reading Alistair MacLean at around that age. Terrific war and spy and just general adventure stories. Can't beat his stuff.
Hornblower/Forester > Aubrey/O'Brian. Just saying. Let the slings and arrows begin.
Bernard Cornwell.
Bios - Douglas Bader, Baden-Powell, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, Beryl Markham.
Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (YFnq5)
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On any kids enjoyment of Military History, I was hooked very early on certainly by age 11. Almost anything written can be followed and believe me if maybe you don't get a tactic or the entire mechanics of what you are reading it will come to you down the road as you read more. The only trick is finding a writer that captures you and keeps it interesting.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (ghofu)
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@82. Just the main character's name, Paladin, assumed a knowledge of history and literature by the viewer.
Posted by: Cosda at September 24, 2017 10:25 AM (eX+TO)
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I wish PDT would stop picking unnecessary fights, eg., NFL/NBA.
I agree with him, but... damn.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (v6Osy)
Why? How much longer we WE suppose to play by one set of rules and the left by another. They want a street fight, fine, I say let's give em one. I am glad fro once a President is finally standing UP for America. And it's PDT who is picking a fight? They wanted to impeach him from day 1.
I agree with him, but... damn.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:24 AM (v6Osy)
Why? How much longer we WE suppose to play by one set of rules and the left by another. They want a street fight, fine, I say let's give em one. I am glad fro once a President is finally standing UP for America. And it's PDT who is picking a fight? They wanted to impeach him from day 1.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (/yyMv)
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (QC/4S)
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Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good. Thanks!
Posted by: April
americanliterature.com/author/stephen-crane/
book/the-red-badge-of-courage/summary
Posted by: April
americanliterature.com/author/stephen-crane/
book/the-red-badge-of-courage/summary
Posted by: Henry Fleming at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (CRLBR)
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It's ESPECIALLY tacky to dis your country on foreign soil. The Brits loathe Americans generally, so they must be having hands-free orgasms right now.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (v6Osy)
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Off stupid sock! Joey just reads Thomas the Tank Engine books.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (IJX6l)
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65 AHL
As u likely know, that war was so bitter, the Red Cross generally
couldn't arrange one-for-one POW exchanges. Both sides preferred to
shoot their enemies, let their own soldiers die.
Now THAT's some kinda intense hatred right there!
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (v6Osy)
Yeah, the Spanish really didn't like each other. Tons of score-settling, desecrating graves, all manner of vicious stuff.
Just to clarify, Franco eventually developed an ideology because he has to. Thomas maps out that in the book that as the war dragged on, he had to come up with something to inspire his side other than: "We're not them."
As a side note, I knew a bit about the Spanish Civil War before reading the book and I worked that in to my Man of Destiny series. Now going through Thomas' book, I'm surprised at how much I got right in terms of infighting, escalation and mission creep in a civil war.
Hell, even some of my characters have similar names (Praeto vs Prieto). Weird.
65 AHL
As u likely know, that war was so bitter, the Red Cross generally
couldn't arrange one-for-one POW exchanges. Both sides preferred to
shoot their enemies, let their own soldiers die.
Now THAT's some kinda intense hatred right there!
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:02 AM (v6Osy)
Yeah, the Spanish really didn't like each other. Tons of score-settling, desecrating graves, all manner of vicious stuff.
Just to clarify, Franco eventually developed an ideology because he has to. Thomas maps out that in the book that as the war dragged on, he had to come up with something to inspire his side other than: "We're not them."
As a side note, I knew a bit about the Spanish Civil War before reading the book and I worked that in to my Man of Destiny series. Now going through Thomas' book, I'm surprised at how much I got right in terms of infighting, escalation and mission creep in a civil war.
Hell, even some of my characters have similar names (Praeto vs Prieto). Weird.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (cfSRQ)
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@121
So ungrateful, largely illiterate, ignorant millionaires disrespecting the flag based on a complete and total lie is not unecessarily picking a fight?
All of these fuckers need to be put on the breadline.
To the fullest extent possible, they will not be getting dime one from me.
So ungrateful, largely illiterate, ignorant millionaires disrespecting the flag based on a complete and total lie is not unecessarily picking a fight?
All of these fuckers need to be put on the breadline.
To the fullest extent possible, they will not be getting dime one from me.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 10:27 AM (9A6UB)
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128 americanliterature.com/author/stephen-crane/
book/the-red-badge-of-courage/summary
Posted by: Henry Fleming at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (CRLBR)
I had to read that book in one of my HS literature classes. I hated it.
book/the-red-badge-of-courage/summary
Posted by: Henry Fleming at September 24, 2017 10:26 AM (CRLBR)
I had to read that book in one of my HS literature classes. I hated it.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (mpXpK)
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Whoops, time to get ready for mass. Until next week!
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (cfSRQ)
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The Left is the six year old screaming in the Halloween aisles of Wal-Mart for candy.
And Trump is acting like a parent by giving them negative feedback on their disruptive and selfish behaviour. Which is something these snowflakes have apparently never received before.
And Trump is acting like a parent by giving them negative feedback on their disruptive and selfish behaviour. Which is something these snowflakes have apparently never received before.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (Ktewm)
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Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good. Thanks!
Posted by: April
Exodus by Leon Uris
Posted by: April
Exodus by Leon Uris
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:28 AM (/yyMv)
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That will end. There will be kneeling this year...You can bet on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (/yyMv)
You're probably right, but at least they weren't the ones who started this shit.
I have season courtside tickets right next to the visitors bench. If any of those fuckers kneel they'll get a verbal ass whoopin' from me and my husband, FWIW. May have to rethink those tickets too.
That will end. There will be kneeling this year...You can bet on it
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:23 AM (/yyMv)
You're probably right, but at least they weren't the ones who started this shit.
I have season courtside tickets right next to the visitors bench. If any of those fuckers kneel they'll get a verbal ass whoopin' from me and my husband, FWIW. May have to rethink those tickets too.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (sNESL)
Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (YFnq5)
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Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.
These people have only 1K of RAM. They aren't programmed for this situation and go back to standard routines.
These people have only 1K of RAM. They aren't programmed for this situation and go back to standard routines.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (oVJmc)
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You guys posting on the NFL here in the book thread know that there is still a healthy debate going on in the previous thread for that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (mpXpK)
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On Kindle Unlimited there are many Charles Rivers Editors books on many WWII books on various operations as well as many other eras.
1 they are very inexpensive and often free with that.
2 I have read a few, often on a operation I wanted to know more abut.
3They are historically accurate
1 they are very inexpensive and often free with that.
2 I have read a few, often on a operation I wanted to know more abut.
3They are historically accurate
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:30 AM (ghofu)
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TRump is a Culture Warrior. Also he is expanding his base.
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 10:31 AM (eO2Z0)
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Wonder if All Hail Eris has managed to loot any bookstores in Vegas?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:31 AM (Ktewm)
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You guys posting on the NFL here in the book thread know that there is still a healthy debate going on in the previous thread for that.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (mpXpK)
Special circumstances on a current hot topic.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (mpXpK)
Special circumstances on a current hot topic.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:31 AM (/yyMv)
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(Of *course* progressives are mentally ill. You can't force your mind to believe obviously untrue and ridiculous things day in and day out for years on end and expect that nothing will go wrong.)
What if it's some version of Asperger's Syndrome? They really can't process information the same way that you or I do. For example, we'll pick up a book or read an article and be able to discern clues almost immediately. We'll quickly open up the full-of-shit file and start dumping the words into that. Hell, I know I can read a copy of Mein Kampf without becoming a Nazi. I will read, and reject, read and reject.
With them it's a straight line into storage. No processing, no filtering. No virus software. Garbage in, garbage out.
Which I believe is behind the campus boycotts to prevent conservatives from speaking. They're afraid. Terrified. Of exposing themselves to something that they can't remove from storage.
My theory. I'm scratching for some logical explanation for the lack of logic on the left.
(Of *course* progressives are mentally ill. You can't force your mind to believe obviously untrue and ridiculous things day in and day out for years on end and expect that nothing will go wrong.)
What if it's some version of Asperger's Syndrome? They really can't process information the same way that you or I do. For example, we'll pick up a book or read an article and be able to discern clues almost immediately. We'll quickly open up the full-of-shit file and start dumping the words into that. Hell, I know I can read a copy of Mein Kampf without becoming a Nazi. I will read, and reject, read and reject.
With them it's a straight line into storage. No processing, no filtering. No virus software. Garbage in, garbage out.
Which I believe is behind the campus boycotts to prevent conservatives from speaking. They're afraid. Terrified. Of exposing themselves to something that they can't remove from storage.
My theory. I'm scratching for some logical explanation for the lack of logic on the left.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 10:32 AM (EgwCt)
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I read "The Reluctant Dragon" by Kenneth Grahame (Wind in the Willows) with illustrations by Seton. Cute story and I love the pen and ink sketches. Also "Ben and Me" by Robert Lawson. The writing is charming and creative, not childish, and the author's illustrations are very good.
I always look odd in the children's section of the library since the shelves barely rise above my waist. There's a certain Gulliver in Lilliput feel. But there is some cute writing on those shelves.
I always look odd in the children's section of the library since the shelves barely rise above my waist. There's a certain Gulliver in Lilliput feel. But there is some cute writing on those shelves.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (V+03K)
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Thanks for the YA suggestions. I had no idea there was so much, so my amazon grandkids' list just quadrupled. These all look great!
These all look great!Posted by: April at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (e8PP1)
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I wish PDT would stop picking unnecessary fights, eg., NFL/NBA.
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I don't get the "unnecessary fight argument".
We have creatures who are nominally "American" by birth tearing down historical monuments in the name of social justice, law enforcement arresting people for "hate crimes" and the multi-millionaire beneficiaries of American dollars flashing their buttcracks at the American flag every week on national tv. And encouraging 4th graders and their stupid, adled-brained parents to do the same. All for "fairness" aka "communism".
We have 40+ years of unpicked fights with the social justice totalitarian left.
They are ALL necessary.
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I don't get the "unnecessary fight argument".
We have creatures who are nominally "American" by birth tearing down historical monuments in the name of social justice, law enforcement arresting people for "hate crimes" and the multi-millionaire beneficiaries of American dollars flashing their buttcracks at the American flag every week on national tv. And encouraging 4th graders and their stupid, adled-brained parents to do the same. All for "fairness" aka "communism".
We have 40+ years of unpicked fights with the social justice totalitarian left.
They are ALL necessary.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (2wRtc)
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Currently reading "The Snowman" by Jo Nesbo.
Nice, crisp, evocative prose by the translator so I'm assuming Jo Nesbo writes in the same manner.
Nice build-up by giving us snippets of "Snowman"'s past history/murders.
Harry Hole pretty typical hero of the genre in that he's alcoholic, has blown-up a relationship with his true love, etc, etc. Still, a good guide to what's going on around him do to clear, logical thinking.
"The Snowman" is a horrifying villain.
Not finished yet but unless Nesbo blows the ending- a great popcorn-type read.
Interesting murder device - seems like a variation on the electrosurge units, which your dentist may have used to trim your gums or remove some tissue. Cutting without much or any bleeding, donchaknow. But, we'll see.
Again, not finished yet, but it's not hard to see why Hollywood chose to make this into a movie. Coming in October!
Nice, crisp, evocative prose by the translator so I'm assuming Jo Nesbo writes in the same manner.
Nice build-up by giving us snippets of "Snowman"'s past history/murders.
Harry Hole pretty typical hero of the genre in that he's alcoholic, has blown-up a relationship with his true love, etc, etc. Still, a good guide to what's going on around him do to clear, logical thinking.
"The Snowman" is a horrifying villain.
Not finished yet but unless Nesbo blows the ending- a great popcorn-type read.
Interesting murder device - seems like a variation on the electrosurge units, which your dentist may have used to trim your gums or remove some tissue. Cutting without much or any bleeding, donchaknow. But, we'll see.
Again, not finished yet, but it's not hard to see why Hollywood chose to make this into a movie. Coming in October!
Posted by: H. D Woodard - "Wearing the Cat" at September 24, 2017 10:33 AM (9q7Dl)
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Looks like all the players in London who kneeled were black
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (/yyMv)
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The short circuiting of logic happens via the abuse of emotional triggers.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (Ktewm)
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Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war? Probably historical fiction would be most interesting for him, but biographies, well-told battle stories would also be good.
Posted by: April
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Hey April - I think "Dispatches" by Michael Herr would be suitable. It's a first person account of parts of the Vietnam War. The writer is embedded with a few different units so he has a Marine and Army perspective. It's an easy read and can be enjoyed on multiple levels.
Posted by: April
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Hey April - I think "Dispatches" by Michael Herr would be suitable. It's a first person account of parts of the Vietnam War. The writer is embedded with a few different units so he has a Marine and Army perspective. It's an easy read and can be enjoyed on multiple levels.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (tr2D7)
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As for finding good history for a pre-teen to read: Try finding him some issues of "Military History" magazine. It was my introduction to the topic when I was a teenager. It may be a few years ahead of the lad's reading level (or not, depends upon the kid), but they (sadly, IMHO) changed their format the last 10 years or so & dumbed it down, with more pictures, games, & such, so it might be just right for an 11 year old.
Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (ANIFC)
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In Vegas bookies loot you!
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (QC/4S)
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Off stupid sock! Joey just reads Thomas the Tank Engine books.
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Thomas, Clifford, and Captain Underpants here with mine.
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Thomas, Clifford, and Captain Underpants here with mine.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (MIKMs)
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Today it's kneeling, tomorrow it's more lost civil liberties...
I mean when do the Social Justice Book Burnings start?
I mean when do the Social Justice Book Burnings start?
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (2wRtc)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:36 AM (2wRtc)
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I mean when do the Social Justice Book Burnings start?
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (2wRtc)
Banning free speech on college campuses is a start
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:35 AM (2wRtc)
Banning free speech on college campuses is a start
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:37 AM (/yyMv)
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Huh. Pixy didn't like the address to Sarah Hoyt's article.
Let's try this:
https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/09/23/left-wants-supermen-rule-arent-even-giants/
Let's try this:
https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2017/09/23/left-wants-supermen-rule-arent-even-giants/
Posted by: H. D. Woodard - "Wearing the Cat" at September 24, 2017 10:37 AM (9q7Dl)
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Tearing down statues is a start.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:37 AM (Ktewm)
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Why is Trump going after NFL/NBA "unnecessary" fights!
It's hard for me to be brief ANY time, especially about this, but I'll try:
1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.
2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them & forget about it.
4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.
It's hard for me to be brief ANY time, especially about this, but I'll try:
1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.
2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them & forget about it.
4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)
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Why wasn't kneeling at NFL games cool when Tebow did it?
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (hMwEB)
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Read Outlaw of Gor (Gor #2) by John Norman where Tarl Cabot returns to Gor (a planet on the other side of the Sun from the Earth) to find his city is gone, and he struggles to survive among hostile natives. Fun adventure tale which focuses on slavery, especially the sexual slavery of beautiful women.
Listened to P Is For Peril by Sue Grafton, where PI Kinsey Millhone is hired to find a doctor who months earlier had left work one evening and vanished. Also runs into trouble when looking to relocate her office. Pretty good book, still many letters to go.
Listened to P Is For Peril by Sue Grafton, where PI Kinsey Millhone is hired to find a doctor who months earlier had left work one evening and vanished. Also runs into trouble when looking to relocate her office. Pretty good book, still many letters to go.
Posted by: waelse1 at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (tH2Js)
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If you want to fall in love with a reader, go where the readers go. The late Ray Bradbury met his future wife, Marguerite McClure, at Fowler's Bookstore in Los Angeles when he was 22 years old."
Well, I'd advise checking out what they are reading before you make the moves. If a woman is engrossed in "The Handmaid's Tale" or some screed by Andrea Dworkin, steer clear. If a guy is reading Tanesi (or however he spells his stupid name) Coates drivel about how white people all suck, avoid him.
Well, I'd advise checking out what they are reading before you make the moves. If a woman is engrossed in "The Handmaid's Tale" or some screed by Andrea Dworkin, steer clear. If a guy is reading Tanesi (or however he spells his stupid name) Coates drivel about how white people all suck, avoid him.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:39 AM (P8951)
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Robb White had a hell of a life. Most Interesting? You decide.
Let's not let it pass that he also wrote "Up Periscope," which I call a classic.
And no one has mentioned Johnny Tremain, by Esther Forbes. So, that one.
Let's not let it pass that he also wrote "Up Periscope," which I call a classic.
And no one has mentioned Johnny Tremain, by Esther Forbes. So, that one.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 10:39 AM (H5rtT)
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MNW, this is to put it succinctly Total Culture War. The Left does not believe any part of society is off-limits for them to usurp and twist.
Trump is recognizing this.
Trump is recognizing this.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:40 AM (Ktewm)
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162 Why wasn't kneeling at NFL games cool when Tebow did it?
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (hMwEB)
Because he's a white Christian male that was suppose to be aborted. Duh!
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (hMwEB)
Because he's a white Christian male that was suppose to be aborted. Duh!
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:40 AM (Enq6K)
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Trump goes after NFL sjwness because he views himself as the voice of hus supporters.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:40 AM (hMwEB)
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102 Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is,...
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)
She gets so animated that she might blow out her series of facelifts.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (y7DUB)
( *snort* )
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:10 AM (sNESL)
She gets so animated that she might blow out her series of facelifts.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:17 AM (y7DUB)
( *snort* )
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (gG2l4)
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150 Looks like all the players in London who kneeled were black
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (/yyMv)
But notice all the staff standing behind them locked arm-in-arm.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:34 AM (/yyMv)
But notice all the staff standing behind them locked arm-in-arm.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (Enq6K)
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140 Vic
After what happened on the movie thread last night, I assume there is some latitude here.
I wanted to talk movies. Lotsa like. Maybe next week.
After what happened on the movie thread last night, I assume there is some latitude here.
I wanted to talk movies. Lotsa like. Maybe next week.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (v6Osy)
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And if a person of either sex is flipping though Hillary's book, avoid them if her or she is not snickering derisively.
If that person is not a he or she but a xer, avoid them no matter what.
If that person is not a he or she but a xer, avoid them no matter what.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (P8951)
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My first purchases as a very young teenager were Purnell's History of the Second World War, a periodical that came out weekly. I have more than a good half ( originals I bought)and found more on Ebay some years ago so am only short a few out of over 100. They were written often by military officers of all nations who were at the actions discribed. It covers all parts of the war in chronological order.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:43 AM (ghofu)
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Just another weirdness: so NFL pro athletes can stand in respect to another country's anthem, but must play games to disrespect their own. Makes no sense.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:43 AM (MIKMs)
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Donna V... if that somexer is dressed as Rainbow Dash whilst reading Hillary's book... run run quickly.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:43 AM (Ktewm)
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It's hard for me to be brief ANY time, especially about this, but I'll try:
1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.
2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them & forget about it.
4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)
The "Culture War" may be the most important issue outside of National Defense we have. It DRIVES all the other issues. And he has enemies becauses he has the termidity to breath
1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.
2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them & forget about it.
4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)
The "Culture War" may be the most important issue outside of National Defense we have. It DRIVES all the other issues. And he has enemies becauses he has the termidity to breath
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:44 AM (/yyMv)
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@127
I think that DJT exposing, fighting against, and ridiculing the PC cancer is a core mission of his Presidency, and one of the few things that may actually reverse the progressive ratchet and turn our culture around.
But.... the tactic of fighting against everyone is, IMO, not the most successful in every context.
The 30-40% of brain-destroyed hard lefters are unreachable. But there is a significant part of our country that remains somewhere in the uninformed or uncommitted middle. For them, simply fighting for the sake of fighting is not going to impress, and often turns them the other way. And, if I may be so sexist (as I know I may, here) this is particularly true of the wimmen Independents, who I think tend to shut down when they just hear too much angry.
So, if you want to help bring the young woman professionals into the ranks, the suburban Moms, etc, and millenial dudes (who really, are half chick anyway) I think that picking too many fights too obviously is not the way to go.
So yes, I think DJT should find a way to have people stop talking about him "vs the NFL" which I think is unproductive.
I think that DJT exposing, fighting against, and ridiculing the PC cancer is a core mission of his Presidency, and one of the few things that may actually reverse the progressive ratchet and turn our culture around.
But.... the tactic of fighting against everyone is, IMO, not the most successful in every context.
The 30-40% of brain-destroyed hard lefters are unreachable. But there is a significant part of our country that remains somewhere in the uninformed or uncommitted middle. For them, simply fighting for the sake of fighting is not going to impress, and often turns them the other way. And, if I may be so sexist (as I know I may, here) this is particularly true of the wimmen Independents, who I think tend to shut down when they just hear too much angry.
So, if you want to help bring the young woman professionals into the ranks, the suburban Moms, etc, and millenial dudes (who really, are half chick anyway) I think that picking too many fights too obviously is not the way to go.
So yes, I think DJT should find a way to have people stop talking about him "vs the NFL" which I think is unproductive.
Posted by: New Soviet Man at September 24, 2017 10:44 AM (BsGS1)
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By November kneeling will be required by the NFL.
Posted by: Meremortal at September 24, 2017 10:45 AM (3myMJ)
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But notice all the staff standing behind them locked arm-in-arm.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (Enq6K)
Yeah I saw. Lemmings and useful idiots
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:41 AM (Enq6K)
Yeah I saw. Lemmings and useful idiots
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 24, 2017 10:45 AM (/yyMv)
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Tovaritch New Soviet Man, go milk the radio
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 10:45 AM (Ktewm)
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North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.
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The Leftists aligned against us seem capable of fighting us in all of these arenas at the same time, why can't our President - the only person fighting for us - do the same?
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The Leftists aligned against us seem capable of fighting us in all of these arenas at the same time, why can't our President - the only person fighting for us - do the same?
Posted by: josephistan at September 24, 2017 10:46 AM (ANIFC)
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I highly support finding historical atlases at places like Half Price Books, where they still aren't cheap, since you can use them to supplement any historical literature using names you have no idea where they are and don't include maps. Gibbon is possibly the worst in that regard.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 10:46 AM (y7DUB)
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Well yer British Empire ended slavery, like, 20 some years before we did, so all Brits will be 20 years more moral, until the end of time. There is that.
Today will tell a tale. (1) the contracted NFL coverage networks will not move their cameras anywhere near the Kneeling Controversy. We'll be relying on conflicting news net reports, hand-phone video, and calls from the game to know what's really going on kneeler-wise;
(2)if this really does catch on today, that kneeling is a Stand Agin' Trump ("Squattin' in our White House"), expect to see it at the symphony, in church, and every night on Jimmy Kimmel by the end of the week.
In addition to bringing in Tebow to lead the kneel, how about installing kneelers in front of the benches? Could probably get the team physicians to demand them, because these guys have pretty fragile joints.
Today will tell a tale. (1) the contracted NFL coverage networks will not move their cameras anywhere near the Kneeling Controversy. We'll be relying on conflicting news net reports, hand-phone video, and calls from the game to know what's really going on kneeler-wise;
(2)if this really does catch on today, that kneeling is a Stand Agin' Trump ("Squattin' in our White House"), expect to see it at the symphony, in church, and every night on Jimmy Kimmel by the end of the week.
In addition to bringing in Tebow to lead the kneel, how about installing kneelers in front of the benches? Could probably get the team physicians to demand them, because these guys have pretty fragile joints.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (H5rtT)
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To anybody who thinks President DJT going after the sjw's in popular culture is beneath him, think again.
Politics is downstream from culture. That's why lefties/progressives have been so successful at forcing their will upon the rest of us.
DJT understands that the battles are fought in the culture before they ever make it to politics.
It's a lot easier to mock the dummies who think men with penises are women with penises than it is to get those men out of the women's bathroom once culture has decided that women have penises.
Politics is downstream from culture. That's why lefties/progressives have been so successful at forcing their will upon the rest of us.
DJT understands that the battles are fought in the culture before they ever make it to politics.
It's a lot easier to mock the dummies who think men with penises are women with penises than it is to get those men out of the women's bathroom once culture has decided that women have penises.
Posted by: Boots at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (EBwPV)
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161 Why is Trump going after NFL/NBA "unnecessary" fights!
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)
Trump didn't start the fight. They brought the fight to him.
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them forget about it.
This is what a culture war looks like. "NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law" ignores the fact that politics is downstream from culture, not vice versa.
"F them forget about it" is all we've done so far until Trump and fat lot of good that has done us.
So yeah, this is what a culture war looks like.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:38 AM (v6Osy)
Trump didn't start the fight. They brought the fight to him.
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them forget about it.
This is what a culture war looks like. "NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law" ignores the fact that politics is downstream from culture, not vice versa.
"F them forget about it" is all we've done so far until Trump and fat lot of good that has done us.
So yeah, this is what a culture war looks like.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (gG2l4)
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Fox is showing NFL players kneeling for the National anthem in England and....standing for 'God save the Queen'.
******
Somebody ought to tell them they're standing up to the tune of "My Country 'Tis Of Thee".
******
Somebody ought to tell them they're standing up to the tune of "My Country 'Tis Of Thee".
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (wPiJc)
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Oddly enough I was practicing my kneeling yesterday, and my cross ankle sit, and my prone position.
Posted by: New Soviet Man at September 24, 2017 10:47 AM (BsGS1)
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The players are half witted idiots, of course. The owners could put a stop to this nonsense, if they wanted to.
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:48 AM (QC/4S)
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Indulge me please, but if someone is going to library sales, a fascinating glimpse into US kid lit is 'St Nicholas Magazine'. Picked up a few bound editions (falling apart) for free and my kids could not even begin to comprehend the writing, games, and puzzles that were considered mass market back then. They took them to school for show and tell and talked about their grandparents and great-grandparents being the same age and that is what they were reading.
Indulge me please, but if someone is going to library sales, a fascinating glimpse into US kid lit is 'St Nicholas Magazine'. Picked up a few bound editions (falling apart) for free and my kids could not even begin to comprehend the writing, games, and puzzles that were considered mass market back then. They took them to school for show and tell and talked about their grandparents and great-grandparents being the same age and that is what they were reading.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 10:48 AM (MIKMs)
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Anna & votermom
OK, I respect & understand your position.
I'm probably a lot older than you, & old people get timid-- remember too many defeats I think of political capital as a wasting asset, & ...I don't like to see it wasted. Otho, he got elected, & I didn't, so...
OK, I respect & understand your position.
I'm probably a lot older than you, & old people get timid-- remember too many defeats I think of political capital as a wasting asset, & ...I don't like to see it wasted. Otho, he got elected, & I didn't, so...
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:48 AM (v6Osy)
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I did notice a week ago or so a new used book store close by, I do need to go see whats there. Hopefully good stuff.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (ghofu)
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If that person is not a he or she but a xer, avoid them no matter what.
Posted by: DonnaV sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (P8951)
If you see some guy reading Ta-Nahisi Butthurt in a library, he may be doing it not because he wants to but because he's taking a class and it's a requirement.
Posted by: DonnaV sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (P8951)
If you see some guy reading Ta-Nahisi Butthurt in a library, he may be doing it not because he wants to but because he's taking a class and it's a requirement.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (gG2l4)
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Just another weirdness: so NFL pro athletes can stand in respect to another country's anthem, but must play games to disrespect their own. Makes no sense.
Posted by: mustbequantum
Maybe it's because America was involved in the slave trade, but England ... never mind.
Posted by: mustbequantum
Maybe it's because America was involved in the slave trade, but England ... never mind.
Posted by: William Wilberforce at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (/qEW2)
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i'm waiting on two library books - The Bronx is Burning, which is the story of my hometown's Annis Horribilius (sp). I remember the blackouts, riots and Son of Sam. I shake my head when I see evidence among the transplants and newbies act like it can't happen again.
other one A gentleman in Moscow.
just finished 'the axe" a decidedly non comic crime novel by Don Westlake. A middle class middle management middle aged guy who;s been with one company his whole life is laid off when his firm shutters his company and moves everything to Canada. A very dark look inside the middle class sense of betrayal and the misery of job hunting at that stage of life, the impact on families and communities...and one man's desperate solution.
It was compelling and disturbing and after I finished it I had to give it away because I couldn't have it in my apartment. I don't need any more help feeling like that, thanks.
before that I tried a series of short story collections by current authors but sheesh, what a bunch of jerks.
other one A gentleman in Moscow.
just finished 'the axe" a decidedly non comic crime novel by Don Westlake. A middle class middle management middle aged guy who;s been with one company his whole life is laid off when his firm shutters his company and moves everything to Canada. A very dark look inside the middle class sense of betrayal and the misery of job hunting at that stage of life, the impact on families and communities...and one man's desperate solution.
It was compelling and disturbing and after I finished it I had to give it away because I couldn't have it in my apartment. I don't need any more help feeling like that, thanks.
before that I tried a series of short story collections by current authors but sheesh, what a bunch of jerks.
Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (11H2y)
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I wonder what percentage of those kneeling players have white agents?
Posted by: goatexchange at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (YFnq5)
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Hollywood can give the finger to middle America because they make tons of money from foreign releases. The NFL? Hahaha!
Do those boneheads imagine that left wing Euros will suddenly become fans of American football because of their anti-American stance? They'll applaud the idiot players -and then go back to watching soccer and rugby and cricket.
Football is the least exportable of American sports. Hockey, basketball and baseball all have a fan base outside of the US. Football does not, and will not create one by pissing on American fans.
Do those boneheads imagine that left wing Euros will suddenly become fans of American football because of their anti-American stance? They'll applaud the idiot players -and then go back to watching soccer and rugby and cricket.
Football is the least exportable of American sports. Hockey, basketball and baseball all have a fan base outside of the US. Football does not, and will not create one by pissing on American fans.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (P8951)
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OK, I respect & understand your position.
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how are we gonna get in a proper flame fight when you are so nice!
*puts down flamethrower*
have a pancake?
OK, I respect & understand your position.
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how are we gonna get in a proper flame fight when you are so nice!
*puts down flamethrower*
have a pancake?
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:51 AM (hMwEB)
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1) The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office, just like "Miss Venezuela is too fat" was beneath him.
Oh ? "high office"? So we have royalty now? Give me a break.
2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?
Yes. His enemies are OUR enemies. And he reveals more of them all the time. Thank God.
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them forget about it.
He Tweets his opinions. Must all expression of personal opinion by a President be governed by Federal law?
4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.
And he Tweets about those as well. Trump has more bandwidth than you seem to understand. A 20 second Tweet is not going to result in America failure to keep an eye on our enemies - Kim Jong Un or John McCain.
I'm sure Mitt or Jeb would have been much more conciliatory and certainly more to your liking.
Maybe Trump will roll over and expose his belly like a true GOP'r soon. Then we can be free of all this "unseemliness".
*eyeroll*
Oh ? "high office"? So we have royalty now? Give me a break.
2) Doesn't he have enough enemies ALREADY?
Yes. His enemies are OUR enemies. And he reveals more of them all the time. Thank God.
3) Those kneeling adzholes are NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law. F them forget about it.
He Tweets his opinions. Must all expression of personal opinion by a President be governed by Federal law?
4) North Korea! Tax cut! Obamacare! Important issues! NFL/NBA kneelers = distraction from those important issues.
And he Tweets about those as well. Trump has more bandwidth than you seem to understand. A 20 second Tweet is not going to result in America failure to keep an eye on our enemies - Kim Jong Un or John McCain.
I'm sure Mitt or Jeb would have been much more conciliatory and certainly more to your liking.
Maybe Trump will roll over and expose his belly like a true GOP'r soon. Then we can be free of all this "unseemliness".
*eyeroll*
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:52 AM (2wRtc)
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Does anyone know of good reads for that age group about pretty much any war?
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I enjoy the history books of Forrest Gump author Winston Groom. They're not hard core history in the sense that they discuss the GNP's effect on ball bearing production etc., they basically just tell what happened with the emphasis on personal stories. I quite liked Shrouds of Glory about the 1864 Nashville campaign. Storm Over Flanders about the WWI battles of Ypres was a!so quite good, WWI in microcosm.
https://tinyurl.com/y9fjcoma
I don't know how availab!e they are now but the novel The Secret Sea by Robb White started me on a lifetime of reading. White wrote a large number of boy's adventure novels and I read damn near all of them.
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I enjoy the history books of Forrest Gump author Winston Groom. They're not hard core history in the sense that they discuss the GNP's effect on ball bearing production etc., they basically just tell what happened with the emphasis on personal stories. I quite liked Shrouds of Glory about the 1864 Nashville campaign. Storm Over Flanders about the WWI battles of Ypres was a!so quite good, WWI in microcosm.
https://tinyurl.com/y9fjcoma
I don't know how availab!e they are now but the novel The Secret Sea by Robb White started me on a lifetime of reading. White wrote a large number of boy's adventure novels and I read damn near all of them.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 10:53 AM (Nwg0u)
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Anti- trust exemption, target next
Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (kMeaV)
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Britebart has a article many NFL team upper management have signed on for Trump Derangement Syndrome, Falcons, 49ers, Dolphins, G'ints, Packers.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (ghofu)
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I am reading Natural Born Heroes by Christopher McDougall.
The heart of the book is the Cretan resistance in World War II. Basically a bunch of ragged Cretan shepherds kept the Germans occupied long enough to delay the start of their Russian campaign just long enough to guarantee they would run into the Russian winter.
It's also delves into how physically small people can defeat much larger people using the natural springiness of the fascia and dirty, viciously dirty, fighting.
There's a chapter detailing how two relatively old Brits, who had learned their chops in old Hong Kong, trained Winston Churchill dirty tricks squad.
The techniques essentially amount to weaponized parkour.
Anyhow I'm finding it fascinating.
The heart of the book is the Cretan resistance in World War II. Basically a bunch of ragged Cretan shepherds kept the Germans occupied long enough to delay the start of their Russian campaign just long enough to guarantee they would run into the Russian winter.
It's also delves into how physically small people can defeat much larger people using the natural springiness of the fascia and dirty, viciously dirty, fighting.
There's a chapter detailing how two relatively old Brits, who had learned their chops in old Hong Kong, trained Winston Churchill dirty tricks squad.
The techniques essentially amount to weaponized parkour.
Anyhow I'm finding it fascinating.
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (nBr1j)
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The issue is beneath the dignity of his high office
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This attitude right here is what keeps Flake, McConnell, Graham, Ryan and McCain in office , term after term after term after term after term after term...
Enough.
They are elected to carry out OUR will. Nothing more.
Want dignified royalty? Europe has plenty for ya.
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This attitude right here is what keeps Flake, McConnell, Graham, Ryan and McCain in office , term after term after term after term after term after term...
Enough.
They are elected to carry out OUR will. Nothing more.
Want dignified royalty? Europe has plenty for ya.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (2wRtc)
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140 Vic
After what happened on the movie thread last night, I assume there is some latitude here.
I wanted to talk movies. Lotsa like. Maybe next week.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (v6Osy)
When Monty first started the book thread years ago he used to rigidly enforce the staying on topic rule.
140 Vic
After what happened on the movie thread last night, I assume there is some latitude here.
I wanted to talk movies. Lotsa like. Maybe next week.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:42 AM (v6Osy)
When Monty first started the book thread years ago he used to rigidly enforce the staying on topic rule.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)
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I have come to the conclusion that Pullman is not only an anti-religion atheist (which I knew before) but he is also a a global warming scam liberal. He has subtle hints to this in the second book.
Yeah...I ended up hating those books with a passion.
Yeah...I ended up hating those books with a passion.
Posted by: Gem at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (uaHyk)
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@202 sounds interesting
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 10:56 AM (QC/4S)
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If you see some guy reading Ta-Nahisi Butthurt in a library, he may be doing it not because he wants to but because he's taking a class and it's a requirement.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (gG2l4)
True. So you'd have to quiz him:
"How do you like that book? Is it worth reading?"
a. "Meh. I have to read it for a class I'm taking."
b. "It sucks big time What a whiner!"
c. "It's fascinating and I'm finding out a lot of things about my white privilege I never knew before."
a and b. are acceptable. C means you run away.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 10:49 AM (gG2l4)
True. So you'd have to quiz him:
"How do you like that book? Is it worth reading?"
a. "Meh. I have to read it for a class I'm taking."
b. "It sucks big time What a whiner!"
c. "It's fascinating and I'm finding out a lot of things about my white privilege I never knew before."
a and b. are acceptable. C means you run away.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:56 AM (P8951)
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I liked Golden Compass because the little girl who was a natural and inventive liar rang true to me.
I didn't care for the sequels, or for the terrible things that happen to kids.
I didn't care for the sequels, or for the terrible things that happen to kids.
Posted by: votermom pimping great books! at September 24, 2017 10:57 AM (hMwEB)
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201 Britebart has a article many NFL team upper management have signed on for Trump Derangement Syndrome, Falcons, 49ers, Dolphins, G'ints, Packers.
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (ghofu)
Including Bob Kraft. Statement he issued this morning:
http://tinyurl.com/ya9pppd4
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 10:54 AM (ghofu)
Including Bob Kraft. Statement he issued this morning:
http://tinyurl.com/ya9pppd4
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 10:57 AM (Enq6K)
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"NOT an issue involving any of the federal govt or federal law"
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"The police acted stupidly."
"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."
Injecting oneself as Preezy is ok in some situations, but not others?
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"The police acted stupidly."
"If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon."
Injecting oneself as Preezy is ok in some situations, but not others?
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 24, 2017 10:58 AM (mQ0Mc)
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Martha Raddatz, who cried when Tump won, opened with a rant on how 'divisive" Trump is,...
'Divisive' = calling libs out for their divisiveness
'Divisive' = calling libs out for their divisiveness
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 10:58 AM (oVJmc)
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I'm not heavily invested in the culture war/NFL stuff.
I guess I'm just reflexively anxious that Trump is going to really hurt himself one of these days over some silly (to me) culture war issue.
I watch the "Rasmussen Daily Presidential JA" poll like the proverbial hawk. He was doing quite a lot better after his disaster outreach & his UN speech, but you watch what will happen to Rasmussen now. These controversies (Charlottesville; all the others before that one) do NOT help.
I guess I'm just reflexively anxious that Trump is going to really hurt himself one of these days over some silly (to me) culture war issue.
I watch the "Rasmussen Daily Presidential JA" poll like the proverbial hawk. He was doing quite a lot better after his disaster outreach & his UN speech, but you watch what will happen to Rasmussen now. These controversies (Charlottesville; all the others before that one) do NOT help.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 10:59 AM (v6Osy)
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This is what actually engaging in the culture wars looks like.
The right has ceded ground for 60 years bringing about the predicament we are in today.
I didn't fully understand or appreciate what Trump means to "conservatism" and Constitutional Republicanism, I now do.
Trump is the indispensable man, there are no others like him.
We cannot spare this man, he fights.
He fights for us.
We must fight for him.
The right has ceded ground for 60 years bringing about the predicament we are in today.
I didn't fully understand or appreciate what Trump means to "conservatism" and Constitutional Republicanism, I now do.
Trump is the indispensable man, there are no others like him.
We cannot spare this man, he fights.
He fights for us.
We must fight for him.
Posted by: Kreplach at September 24, 2017 10:59 AM (9A6UB)
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@203
I hate elitism, but "gentleman" does not equal "pussy."
This was traditional in our society until about 5 minutes ago. So yes, I agree that you don't trade your desire not to get your hands dirty for anything, but neither is rolling around in the mud, all the time, for its own sake, any more helpful.
I hate elitism, but "gentleman" does not equal "pussy."
This was traditional in our society until about 5 minutes ago. So yes, I agree that you don't trade your desire not to get your hands dirty for anything, but neither is rolling around in the mud, all the time, for its own sake, any more helpful.
Posted by: New Soviet Man at September 24, 2017 11:00 AM (BsGS1)
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When Monty first started the book thread years ago he used to rigidly enforce the staying on topic rule.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)
You, and everyone else, are not prevented from posting 'topic' comments. OM is on the thread. If he would like us to stop, he can certainly tell us to and we will.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)
You, and everyone else, are not prevented from posting 'topic' comments. OM is on the thread. If he would like us to stop, he can certainly tell us to and we will.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:00 AM (Enq6K)
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A beat-up paperback copy of Robb White's "Secret Sea" that I bought in the *cough* 70s *cough* for 3.99 is now selling for 29 bucks on eBay.
I hope that someone somewhere is digitally preserving these little gems so that they might be republished again someday.
A beat-up paperback copy of Robb White's "Secret Sea" that I bought in the *cough* 70s *cough* for 3.99 is now selling for 29 bucks on eBay.
I hope that someone somewhere is digitally preserving these little gems so that they might be republished again someday.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:00 AM (2wRtc)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:02 AM (v6Osy)
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I've been reading "Spark, The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain" by John Ratey, MD.
Excellent book that delves into how exercise induces chemical changes in the brain to alleviate depression, and other emotional and mental issues. Very detailed, with lots of research behind it. Ratey is a member of Harvard Medical School's faculty and has a long list of published work.
http://www.johnratey.com/
Besides being an excellent learning volume, it also is quite motivating to get off the couch and move.
The stats he has on a couple of middle schools that incorporated much more schedule athletic time for students is very interesting in it's results on test scores and behavior.
Excellent book that delves into how exercise induces chemical changes in the brain to alleviate depression, and other emotional and mental issues. Very detailed, with lots of research behind it. Ratey is a member of Harvard Medical School's faculty and has a long list of published work.
http://www.johnratey.com/
Besides being an excellent learning volume, it also is quite motivating to get off the couch and move.
The stats he has on a couple of middle schools that incorporated much more schedule athletic time for students is very interesting in it's results on test scores and behavior.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 11:02 AM (/Qs0S)
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Oh so fucking concerned.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:02 AM (rmVvL)
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Football is the least exportable of American sports. Hockey, basketball and baseball all have a fan base outside of the US. Football does not, and will not create one by pissing on American fans.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (P8951)
The trouble with these glorified puppets called commissioners is that those gelded monkeys will never countermand the dumbfuck ideas of a predecessor. I think Rozelle, the last commissioner who cared about the integrity of the game, in a weak moment decided to play a game "across the pond" (dear God in heaven I despise that term; it's an ocean, ignorant cocksuckers) and everyone since thinks "Welp we can't diss the memory of Pete". So they expand it to that diarrhea pit to the south. Idiots.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 10:50 AM (P8951)
The trouble with these glorified puppets called commissioners is that those gelded monkeys will never countermand the dumbfuck ideas of a predecessor. I think Rozelle, the last commissioner who cared about the integrity of the game, in a weak moment decided to play a game "across the pond" (dear God in heaven I despise that term; it's an ocean, ignorant cocksuckers) and everyone since thinks "Welp we can't diss the memory of Pete". So they expand it to that diarrhea pit to the south. Idiots.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 11:03 AM (y7DUB)
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A beat-up paperback copy of Robb White's "Secret Sea" that I bought in the *cough* 70s *cough* for 3.99 is now selling for 29 bucks on eBay.
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I just checked Amazon, and there are four used paperbacks at about five bucks.
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I just checked Amazon, and there are four used paperbacks at about five bucks.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:04 AM (m9X4Y)
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He as most all historians agree on, wrongly incorporated the Saxon Army into his. They melted away as fast as they could deserting at every chance.
Justinian II had the same problem. He transferred a Slavic nation into Anatolia to use it against the Arabs. The Arabs offered a better deal. Justinian lost his war, his province, and eventually his nose.
Justinian II had the same problem. He transferred a Slavic nation into Anatolia to use it against the Arabs. The Arabs offered a better deal. Justinian lost his war, his province, and eventually his nose.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:04 AM (6FqZa)
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Still reading the second book in the Lies of Locke Lamora series. Very enjoyable.
Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?
Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?
Posted by: NJRob at September 24, 2017 11:04 AM (hkj67)
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This is what actually engaging in the culture wars looks like.
The right has ceded ground for 60 years bringing about the predicament we are in today.
I didn't fully understand or appreciate what Trump means to "conservatism" and Constitutional Republicanism, I now do.
Trump is the indispensable man, there are no others like him.
We cannot spare this man, he fights.
He fights for us.
We must fight for him.
Posted by: Kreplach
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dammit, Krep.
If I had the ability to write at all, I would have written this.
The right has ceded ground for 60 years bringing about the predicament we are in today.
I didn't fully understand or appreciate what Trump means to "conservatism" and Constitutional Republicanism, I now do.
Trump is the indispensable man, there are no others like him.
We cannot spare this man, he fights.
He fights for us.
We must fight for him.
Posted by: Kreplach
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dammit, Krep.
If I had the ability to write at all, I would have written this.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (2wRtc)
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Greetings, O Book Thread! I want that library, and I want a butler to (quietly) serve me tea in it so I don't have to get out of my comfy chair whilst reading.
Even though I wasn't putting a lot of effort into it, I have found employment again which will put a crimp on the writing all day plan. Well, I have two weeks before I start so I will just have to do what I can. I need to win the lottery or something so I don't have to worry about steady income.
It makes me very happy to see how many Moron and Moron-affiliated writers there are! Don't forget, if you enjoyed the book leave a review. Reviews are like gold to us writers.
Even though I wasn't putting a lot of effort into it, I have found employment again which will put a crimp on the writing all day plan. Well, I have two weeks before I start so I will just have to do what I can. I need to win the lottery or something so I don't have to worry about steady income.
It makes me very happy to see how many Moron and Moron-affiliated writers there are! Don't forget, if you enjoyed the book leave a review. Reviews are like gold to us writers.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (hnzFp)
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (m9X4Y)
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Actually American football does have some fan base outside of the US.Still they can't afford to turn off American fans and they are going find out good and hard.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (rmVvL)
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Yowza! I see a bunch of people beat me to recommending Robb White.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (Nwg0u)
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Reviews are like gold to us writers.
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Unless they are bad reviews
Which makes me fear that no review is a bad review the reviewer preferred to not post.
Don't ask me how I know.
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Unless they are bad reviews
Which makes me fear that no review is a bad review the reviewer preferred to not post.
Don't ask me how I know.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:07 AM (m9X4Y)
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April - One of my earliest memories is circa age 8, reading Samuel Eliot Morison's "The Two Ocean War." Great overview of the U.S. Navy in WW2.
Also, Eric Hammel wrote an incredibly well-written trilogy about Guadalcanal, starting with "Starvation Island."
Also, Eric Hammel wrote an incredibly well-written trilogy about Guadalcanal, starting with "Starvation Island."
Posted by: William Alan Webb at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (OhYcy)
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203 Mortimer
Wanna retire Flake?
Send a check to Dr. Kelli Ward in Tempe. I did.
That right THERE is how we get rid of these worthless POSs.
Wanna retire Flake?
Send a check to Dr. Kelli Ward in Tempe. I did.
That right THERE is how we get rid of these worthless POSs.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (v6Osy)
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hate elitism, but "gentleman" does not equal "pussy."
This was traditional in our society until about 5 minutes ago. So yes, I agree that you don't trade your desire not to get your hands dirty for anything, but neither is rolling around in the mud, all the time, for its own sake, any more helpful.
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"Gentlemen do not read each other's mail"
This was traditional in our society until about 5 minutes ago. So yes, I agree that you don't trade your desire not to get your hands dirty for anything, but neither is rolling around in the mud, all the time, for its own sake, any more helpful.
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"Gentlemen do not read each other's mail"
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (QC/4S)
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The owner of the NY Giants opened his cock sucking mouth about Trump's "divisive" comments.God how the left just loves that word.Was Obama "divisive"?Are assholes disrespecting their country "divisive"?Are lefties saying conservatives should be locked up(if not killed outright) "divisive"?Go suck a fat dick Goodell and Mara.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (rmVvL)
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OT, but I had a great time and lots of fun when the movie thread included a mashup of film titles. The collective wit, energy and esprit de corps and sheer fun kept me engaged and interested for far longer than I usually am on these threads, and lured me out of my usual lurker posture.
A lot of the 'ace's greatest hits" posts came out of similar random group acts of sophmoric humor.
A lot of the 'ace's greatest hits" posts came out of similar random group acts of sophmoric humor.
Posted by: vivi at September 24, 2017 11:09 AM (11H2y)
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I'm done with these fucktards and I'm not alone.Watch the ratings and the gate suffer.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:10 AM (rmVvL)
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[Also posted in Goodreads]
Do any other authors encounter this problem? You are writing something inspired by personal events and experiences, and it is fictional, not at all meant to be a memoir, or a collection of biographies, and you want to create a figure based on a real-life person, and you need to create an identity for your figure, and yet . . . the real-life person happens to have such an awesome, archetypal name, that you despair all hope of creating a better one for your character. I have that with three peeps in my novel and going, and don't know how to square that circle.
One of the three maybe I can force myself around, because he (from an amortizing perspective) is probably deceased so for guilt's sake I would be all right; another is off the grid; so, I am in limbo. The third is a beloved family member.
Has anyone else been in this bind? This is no light matter: The names of these three people are pure poetry.
Do any other authors encounter this problem? You are writing something inspired by personal events and experiences, and it is fictional, not at all meant to be a memoir, or a collection of biographies, and you want to create a figure based on a real-life person, and you need to create an identity for your figure, and yet . . . the real-life person happens to have such an awesome, archetypal name, that you despair all hope of creating a better one for your character. I have that with three peeps in my novel and going, and don't know how to square that circle.
One of the three maybe I can force myself around, because he (from an amortizing perspective) is probably deceased so for guilt's sake I would be all right; another is off the grid; so, I am in limbo. The third is a beloved family member.
Has anyone else been in this bind? This is no light matter: The names of these three people are pure poetry.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:10 AM (GsAUU)
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Pullman also wants to be the Atheist alternative to C.S. Lewis and has said so Much hubris there? He isn't fit to tie Lewis' shoes.
Few are.
For instance I still want my Jewish Narnia. Not tikkun-olam liberalism masquerading as Judaism; not critiques of Christianity. And not Tolkien's Dwarves; however sympathetic they might be, they're still an outsider's look. I want an actual positive vision of Judaism in fantasy.
Few are.
For instance I still want my Jewish Narnia. Not tikkun-olam liberalism masquerading as Judaism; not critiques of Christianity. And not Tolkien's Dwarves; however sympathetic they might be, they're still an outsider's look. I want an actual positive vision of Judaism in fantasy.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:10 AM (6FqZa)
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Well, I am still sticking by my Barbara Tuchman recommendation for young people who want to learn more about history. Readable for advanced middle-school, with plenty of footnotes for further study; but most of all just a sample to hopefully spark further explorations. I always over-recommend and over-explain when I am interested in something, so my kids and their friends would tune out -- too nerdly -- and generic overviews are a good start.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (MIKMs)
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The Average American Leftist will support the burning of the American Flag at the drop of a hat. (Yep, political speech--I get it)
But, by God All Mighty, they wouldn't DREAM of burning the North Korean, Iranian, Soviet (back in the day), Chinese, Venezuelan or Cuban Flag etc etc etc...
....because THAT would be disrespectful.
I just finished reading William F. Buckley's "On the Firing Line" -- great excerpts from his talk show
...and now starting my 5 book set of Kiplings Short Stories (Folio Society Edition) ...looking forward to it.
Hope everyone is reading something GOOD this week...with all the b.s. going on.... *
* sits back in leather chair and cracks open first volume
The Average American Leftist will support the burning of the American Flag at the drop of a hat. (Yep, political speech--I get it)
But, by God All Mighty, they wouldn't DREAM of burning the North Korean, Iranian, Soviet (back in the day), Chinese, Venezuelan or Cuban Flag etc etc etc...
....because THAT would be disrespectful.
I just finished reading William F. Buckley's "On the Firing Line" -- great excerpts from his talk show
...and now starting my 5 book set of Kiplings Short Stories (Folio Society Edition) ...looking forward to it.
Hope everyone is reading something GOOD this week...with all the b.s. going on.... *
* sits back in leather chair and cracks open first volume
Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (tDTdL)
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Trump is 'divisive' in the sense that he's going to help divide some money from the NFL to other pursuits.
Trump is 'divisive' in the sense that he's going to help divide some money from the NFL to other pursuits.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (EgwCt)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:12 AM (v6Osy)
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Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?
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I have a library of 2 or 3 or 4 hundred of them. Quality varies. Great for listening while driving. Many books are available in Whispersync such that you can listen as you drive home then you open your Kindle to just where you stopped listening and vice versa. In addition to books being read, they feature full cast plays and such.
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I have a library of 2 or 3 or 4 hundred of them. Quality varies. Great for listening while driving. Many books are available in Whispersync such that you can listen as you drive home then you open your Kindle to just where you stopped listening and vice versa. In addition to books being read, they feature full cast plays and such.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)
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Even though I wasn't putting a lot of effort into it, I have found employment again which will put a crimp on the writing all day plan. Well, I have two weeks before I start so I will just have to do what I can. I need to win the lottery or something so I don't have to worry about steady income.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (hnzFp)
Congrats on your new-found employment, Sabrina.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:05 AM (hnzFp)
Congrats on your new-found employment, Sabrina.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (gG2l4)
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Actually MNW, Trump is just recapitulating what Machiavelli wrote about.
The Left never respected McCain or either Bush. McCain never pushed back because he thinks he needs them to salve his brittle ego. GW Bush operated under the theory of limited political capital it seems, so he tried to concentrate on certain areas and he was chewed up and spit out just like his father.
Trump, like Reagan, is talking directky to We the People and showing that political capital can be created Capital that can be used to expand the Culture War fight. Trump is making them respect him because they will never like him.
Or to use an Arab phrase, Trump is the strong horse. Or even in American football terms, people like a winner. Trump is a winner.
The Left never respected McCain or either Bush. McCain never pushed back because he thinks he needs them to salve his brittle ego. GW Bush operated under the theory of limited political capital it seems, so he tried to concentrate on certain areas and he was chewed up and spit out just like his father.
Trump, like Reagan, is talking directky to We the People and showing that political capital can be created Capital that can be used to expand the Culture War fight. Trump is making them respect him because they will never like him.
Or to use an Arab phrase, Trump is the strong horse. Or even in American football terms, people like a winner. Trump is a winner.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (Ktewm)
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(I'm going to suggest this is on-topic for a book thread, because Las Vegas bookmakers are heavily involved in the NFL, hence book-related)
Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
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The owner of the NY Giants opened his cock sucking mouth about Trump's "divisive" comments.God how the left just loves that word.Was Obama "divisive"?Are assholes disrespecting their country "divisive"?Are lefties saying conservatives should be locked up(if not killed outright) "divisive"?Go suck a fat dick Goodell and Mara.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (rmVvL)
Yup....x1000. Open wide Bob Tisch too. Cram it in there.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 11:08 AM (rmVvL)
Yup....x1000. Open wide Bob Tisch too. Cram it in there.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (5VlCp)
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And he Tweets about those as well. Trump has more bandwidth than you seem to understand. A 20 second Tweet is not going to result in America failure to keep an eye on our enemies - Kim Jong Un or John McCain.
^This. I've had this same argument with people IRL. When they make same argument that he should stop Tweeting because it keeps him from the important issues I ask if they really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's bare knuckle style.
^This. I've had this same argument with people IRL. When they make same argument that he should stop Tweeting because it keeps him from the important issues I ask if they really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's bare knuckle style.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
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Wanna retire Flake?
Send a check to Dr. Kelli Ward in Tempe. I did.
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I did online. Twice.
My money is definitely where my mouth is.
General Washington did not win the Culture War against elitist royalty by marching in the British-mandated , historically-approved, attrition-based, politically-acceptable manner.
War and politics are won by the guy who will do what no one else will.
Send a check to Dr. Kelli Ward in Tempe. I did.
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I did online. Twice.
My money is definitely where my mouth is.
General Washington did not win the Culture War against elitist royalty by marching in the British-mandated , historically-approved, attrition-based, politically-acceptable manner.
War and politics are won by the guy who will do what no one else will.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (2wRtc)
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This week I've been reading _Hillbilly Elegy_ by J.D. Vance. A number of other Morons have already posted about it, and I've got little to add. It's a good book, but it's in the category of "read once" rather than a book I expect to return to again and again.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 24, 2017 11:15 AM (o0Pn2)
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Straw man much?
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Not a straw man. Obama injected himself into non-federal issues, is that not correct? In an incendiary fashion. Only he did it with a microphone in his face. Trump took his to Twitter. The truth is likely that neither should comment on things not related to their role as president. However, for doing essentially the same thing, Obama was hailed. Trump is assailed. You know, the typical D vs. R hypocrisy.
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Not a straw man. Obama injected himself into non-federal issues, is that not correct? In an incendiary fashion. Only he did it with a microphone in his face. Trump took his to Twitter. The truth is likely that neither should comment on things not related to their role as president. However, for doing essentially the same thing, Obama was hailed. Trump is assailed. You know, the typical D vs. R hypocrisy.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 24, 2017 11:15 AM (mQ0Mc)
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When Monty first started the book thread years ago he used to rigidly enforce the staying on topic rule.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)
Indeed. I run a looser ship than Monty used to. That's by design. If there's some newsworthy event, like a terrorist attack or natural disaster, that I know is going to suck up a lot of bandwidth, I'll set up an additional thread below the book thread.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 10:55 AM (mpXpK)
Indeed. I run a looser ship than Monty used to. That's by design. If there's some newsworthy event, like a terrorist attack or natural disaster, that I know is going to suck up a lot of bandwidth, I'll set up an additional thread below the book thread.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:16 AM (gG2l4)
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Woohoo Sabrina. Glad you got employment.
Yeah a lottery or a best seller that makes buckets of money would be nice. Are you going to enter anything into Amazon's Pen to Publish contest?
Yeah a lottery or a best seller that makes buckets of money would be nice. Are you going to enter anything into Amazon's Pen to Publish contest?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:17 AM (Ktewm)
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245 (I'm going to suggest this is on-topic for a book thread, because Las Vegas bookmakers are heavily involved in the NFL, hence book-related)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
I'll allow it.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
I'll allow it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:18 AM (gG2l4)
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242 Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?
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I have a library of 2 or 3 or 4 hundred of them. Quality varies. Great for listening while driving. Many books are available in Whispersync such that you can listen as you drive home then you open your Kindle to just where you stopped listening and vice versa. In addition to books being read, they feature full cast plays and such.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)
I listen to Audible in my car and love it.
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I have a library of 2 or 3 or 4 hundred of them. Quality varies. Great for listening while driving. Many books are available in Whispersync such that you can listen as you drive home then you open your Kindle to just where you stopped listening and vice versa. In addition to books being read, they feature full cast plays and such.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:12 AM (Nwg0u)
I listen to Audible in my car and love it.
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 11:18 AM (nBr1j)
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* sits back in leather chair and cracks open first volume Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at September 24, 2017 11:11 AM (tDTdL)
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LOL. I have embarrassed myself waaaay too often by getting comfy in a leather chair and sliding right off. Won't sit in those things at all now and I don't care how cool and chic they are.
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LOL. I have embarrassed myself waaaay too often by getting comfy in a leather chair and sliding right off. Won't sit in those things at all now and I don't care how cool and chic they are.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (MIKMs)
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Seen at the bookstore: James Kugel, "The Great Shift".
http://theatln.tc/2wKd40U
This book teaches that the ancient Hebrew conception of the prophetic mind was that it was permeable, to the actions of spirits and of G-d himself. The prophet wouldn't even know he was a prophet, at first; he'd meet some stranger on the road, or in some aethereal plane, and then wake up. That's the point he (or she) would realise - oh dear, I just met God or an angel, so I guess I'm a prophet now.
This same conception is held by the Greeks and, I'd add, the pre-Islamic Arab poets. The muses in the former case, the jinn in the latter.
http://theatln.tc/2wKd40U
This book teaches that the ancient Hebrew conception of the prophetic mind was that it was permeable, to the actions of spirits and of G-d himself. The prophet wouldn't even know he was a prophet, at first; he'd meet some stranger on the road, or in some aethereal plane, and then wake up. That's the point he (or she) would realise - oh dear, I just met God or an angel, so I guess I'm a prophet now.
This same conception is held by the Greeks and, I'd add, the pre-Islamic Arab poets. The muses in the former case, the jinn in the latter.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (6FqZa)
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Audio books while driving.
For some reason, audio input while driving seems to increase alertness and helps focus the mind. I don't know why.
Telephone conversations, on the other hand, do not increase alertness in driving. Instead, the mind focuses on the other person, and blanks out visual input, and cognitive functions focus on the conversation with the other person.
I haven't found any other activity where audio books, or music, have that effect.
When I'm writing, I have to have complete silence. I can't have two realities in my head at the same time. To really listen to music, that has to be my only activity; to listen.
Perhaps that is just me.
For some reason, audio input while driving seems to increase alertness and helps focus the mind. I don't know why.
Telephone conversations, on the other hand, do not increase alertness in driving. Instead, the mind focuses on the other person, and blanks out visual input, and cognitive functions focus on the conversation with the other person.
I haven't found any other activity where audio books, or music, have that effect.
When I'm writing, I have to have complete silence. I can't have two realities in my head at the same time. To really listen to music, that has to be my only activity; to listen.
Perhaps that is just me.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (m9X4Y)
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most of the green bay packers plan on kneeling today. that whole organization can eat a bag o dicks. fuck them. hope they go bankrupt.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (KP5rU)
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Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM
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Here's the list of NFL arrests to date just for 2017 alone--31 so far.
https://www.usatoday.com/ sports/nfl/arrests/2017/all/all/
(remove the space before "sports")
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM
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Here's the list of NFL arrests to date just for 2017 alone--31 so far.
https://www.usatoday.com/ sports/nfl/arrests/2017/all/all/
(remove the space before "sports")
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (HiDrR)
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I see that Nelson DeMille (greatest living American author IMO) published "The Cuban Affair" in 2017. Has anyone read it? I can't wait to read it.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)
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have embarrassed myself waaaay too often by getting
comfy in a leather chair and sliding right off.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (MIKMs)
Wear chaps.....
comfy in a leather chair and sliding right off.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM (MIKMs)
Wear chaps.....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (wYseH)
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...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)
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I'll allow it.
Posted by: OregonMuse
*****
Whew! That was touch and go for a second. Nonetheless I will abandon that topic for now and allow someone else to be my VAUNTPARLER.
Posted by: OregonMuse
*****
Whew! That was touch and go for a second. Nonetheless I will abandon that topic for now and allow someone else to be my VAUNTPARLER.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (wPiJc)
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I started reading 3 men in a boat, its been recommended on previous book threads. I'm enjoying it. It was written in 1898 and is another example of the expectations of historical and literature background knowledge. The book itself is just a light hearted bit of satirizing the middle class young gentlemen of the time IMO but one character is prone to day dreaming about historical stuff that happened at the various places.
Posted by: PaleRider at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (8qFZP)
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I'm slogging my way through Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, something that's been on my to-read list for *cough cough* years now. I'm not that far into into it yet but it's fascinating stuff. I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. Great movie. It made you feel like you were right there watching Berlin crumble around you. The mixture of fanaticism, despair and helplessness was intense. It made you think about what the average German must have felt as the promise of a glorious Thousand Year Reich was being blown to rubble.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:21 AM (NWiLs)
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Leather chaps whilst sitting in a leather chair....
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:21 AM (Ktewm)
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Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
Well I'll be dog-gone, I didn't make the list.
Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
Well I'll be dog-gone, I didn't make the list.
Posted by: Michael Vick at September 24, 2017 11:21 AM (EgwCt)
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Green Bay is owned by the fans. That should go over very well. Carry on...
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 11:22 AM (QC/4S)
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262 ...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)
Addiction to gambling?
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)
Addiction to gambling?
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:23 AM (TdMsT)
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Anna. Sure hope you're right.
W had an athlete who twice publicly declined to visit the WH (Red Sox catcher), & W just ignored him.
I don't view W's presidency as quite the abysmal failure many here probably do. The Lehman Brothers disaster did W in & gave us 8 years of Zero.
Let's remember PDT has been in office exactly 9 months. Let's see how this culture war works out in the '18 election before we evaluate the wisdom of engaging on EVERYTHING.
Many pollsters contend that off-year election results correlate closely wth the sitting President's approval rating.
Right now, the generic ballot is D+6. In 2014, when GOP made huge gains, it was R+1.5. I have ... concerns.
W had an athlete who twice publicly declined to visit the WH (Red Sox catcher), & W just ignored him.
I don't view W's presidency as quite the abysmal failure many here probably do. The Lehman Brothers disaster did W in & gave us 8 years of Zero.
Let's remember PDT has been in office exactly 9 months. Let's see how this culture war works out in the '18 election before we evaluate the wisdom of engaging on EVERYTHING.
Many pollsters contend that off-year election results correlate closely wth the sitting President's approval rating.
Right now, the generic ballot is D+6. In 2014, when GOP made huge gains, it was R+1.5. I have ... concerns.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:24 AM (v6Osy)
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*taps chin*
Just might have enough time to get ready, a showing of the new Kingsman starts in 90 minutes.
Just might have enough time to get ready, a showing of the new Kingsman starts in 90 minutes.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:24 AM (Ktewm)
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260 I see that Nelson DeMille (greatest living American author IMO) published "The Cuban Affair" in 2017. Has anyone read it? I can't wait to read it.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)
He's my absolute favorite author! I've read all of his books...well except that one.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)
He's my absolute favorite author! I've read all of his books...well except that one.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (Enq6K)
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I'm slogging my way through Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, something that's been on my to-read list for *cough cough* years now. I'm not that far into into it yet but it's fascinating stuff. I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. Great movie. It made you feel like you were right there watching Berlin crumble around you. The mixture of fanaticism, despair and helplessness was intense. It made you think about what the average German must have felt as the promise of a glorious Thousand Year Reich was being blown to rubble.
Posted by: Insomniac
Rent Cross of Iron
Posted by: Insomniac
Rent Cross of Iron
Posted by: Jean at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (kMeaV)
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>>>Yowza! I see a bunch of people beat me to recommending Robb White.
ROBB WHITES? I ALWAYS RECOMMENDED THAT.
ROBB WHITES? I ALWAYS RECOMMENDED THAT.
Posted by: AL SHARPTON at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (/qEW2)
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...I ask if they
really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is
truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't
addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a
vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's
bare knuckle style.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Trump is a master of time management. During the primary especially he would "phone in" to multiple shows, give snappy memorable interviews, dominate the news cycle by 8 am, and then go campaigning. The other sixteen were still listening to their media and PR gurus, getting dressed and make-uped, riding down to studios, sitting around waiting for their five minutes, then leave and go do it again if they were lucky. Trump got five or six interviews in to their one. He is doing the same thing with Twitter. He sets the agenda everyday before he leaves for his office. When he is tired of something or ready for the next issue he changes the subject.
really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is
truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't
addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a
vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's
bare knuckle style.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Trump is a master of time management. During the primary especially he would "phone in" to multiple shows, give snappy memorable interviews, dominate the news cycle by 8 am, and then go campaigning. The other sixteen were still listening to their media and PR gurus, getting dressed and make-uped, riding down to studios, sitting around waiting for their five minutes, then leave and go do it again if they were lucky. Trump got five or six interviews in to their one. He is doing the same thing with Twitter. He sets the agenda everyday before he leaves for his office. When he is tired of something or ready for the next issue he changes the subject.
Posted by: Lester at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (LfJIn)
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most of the green bay packers plan on kneeling today. that whole organization can eat a bag o dicks. fuck them. hope they go bankrupt.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM
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For some reason, that really pisses me off even more. They have (had?) arguably the best fan base in the league, and yet they decide to piss on them.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 24, 2017 11:19 AM
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For some reason, that really pisses me off even more. They have (had?) arguably the best fan base in the league, and yet they decide to piss on them.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)
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Also seen at the bookstore: some stuff published from Prometheus Books. Prometheus is the hardcore atheist imprint.
On the one hand they put out a translation of a leyenda negra against Pius XII and his relationships with "fascists": God and the Fascists. The claims made here have been refuted many a time on the HQ book threads. Since Franco was not a fascist, just mentioning him in the same sentence as Mussolini and the Ustashe proves the author to be a stinking liar.
Prometheus also put out Robert Manne, The Mind of the Islamic State. This parallels McCants and Spencer in looking into the documents which outline Baghdadi's ideology. I *would* recommend it... if not for the publisher, which is now pinging my Gell Mann Amnesia radar.
Since McCants and Spencer were both imperfect, McCants being pro-Muhammad and Spencer being... Spencer, I'd found that I had to read both McCants and Spencer to get a good picture on ISIS-Brain. I suggest assuming that Manne is imperfect too and reading his book as a third leg in the triangulation tripod.
On the one hand they put out a translation of a leyenda negra against Pius XII and his relationships with "fascists": God and the Fascists. The claims made here have been refuted many a time on the HQ book threads. Since Franco was not a fascist, just mentioning him in the same sentence as Mussolini and the Ustashe proves the author to be a stinking liar.
Prometheus also put out Robert Manne, The Mind of the Islamic State. This parallels McCants and Spencer in looking into the documents which outline Baghdadi's ideology. I *would* recommend it... if not for the publisher, which is now pinging my Gell Mann Amnesia radar.
Since McCants and Spencer were both imperfect, McCants being pro-Muhammad and Spencer being... Spencer, I'd found that I had to read both McCants and Spencer to get a good picture on ISIS-Brain. I suggest assuming that Manne is imperfect too and reading his book as a third leg in the triangulation tripod.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (6FqZa)
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I'm reading boulder toilet hobo's book on Islam, House of War. It's interesting, and we'll written, if very academic.
I'm also reading one of my textbooks, a history of modern macroeconomic thought, that I didn't read completely during grad school. Finally, I also occasionally pull out Marcus Aurelius' Meditations.
A couple of.weeks ago I finished The Beautiful and the Damned, by F. Scott Fitzgerald. It was good. It's about a young couple who marry and spend the years leading up to the first world War spending away the husband's trust fund until they're left penniless, all while embroiled in a legal battle over his inheritance.
I'm also reading one of my textbooks, a history of modern macroeconomic thought, that I didn't read completely during grad school. Finally, I also occasionally pull out Marcus Aurelius' Meditations.
A couple of.weeks ago I finished The Beautiful and the Damned, by F. Scott Fitzgerald. It was good. It's about a young couple who marry and spend the years leading up to the first world War spending away the husband's trust fund until they're left penniless, all while embroiled in a legal battle over his inheritance.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at September 24, 2017 11:27 AM (z7cQS)
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I ask if they really think spending a couple of minutes a day sending out Tweets is truly an all-consuming enterprise, and for evidence that he isn't
addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's
bare knuckle style.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Not to mention he's up everyday around 4 am....probably 6 hours more in his awake day than Odumbo.
addressing the "important issues." They got nothing, because it's a vacuous argument made by people who want to sniff distastefully at PDT's
bare knuckle style.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Not to mention he's up everyday around 4 am....probably 6 hours more in his awake day than Odumbo.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:27 AM (Enq6K)
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (v6Osy)
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"I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. "
Great flick. We've all seen the parodies but it's great throughout.
The scariest character is Magda Goebbels.
Great flick. We've all seen the parodies but it's great throughout.
The scariest character is Magda Goebbels.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (cAXIk)
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If most of these kneelers weren't kneeling in the NFL, they'd be the ones getting shot by the cops in commission of crimes.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (oVJmc)
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Many NFL players are men of conviction...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Don't forget murder!
Ow... be gentle with those barbs...
...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Don't forget murder!
Ow... be gentle with those barbs...
Posted by: Aaron Hernandez at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (6FqZa)
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Audible is great.
My HD8 has a timer, so if I want to listen before I nap, it will turn itself off.
One caveat: I love maps, and Audible books of course lack those.
My HD8 has a timer, so if I want to listen before I nap, it will turn itself off.
One caveat: I love maps, and Audible books of course lack those.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (GsAUU)
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Magda proved Kipling's warning about Afghan women can apply elsewhere. Geez was she hardcore.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (Ktewm)
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Speaking of the NFL, the Ravens are shitting their nest.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (GsAUU)
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Colorado Alex in Exile: hey, thanks!
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:29 AM (6FqZa)
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...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)
Addiction to gambling?
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Here's the thing.
This list ONLY applies to White NFL players.
In a non-white minority player has any of these issues, it's because he has had to live in a white world, and therefore is a victim who CANNOT ever be held responsible for his actions.
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (gG2l4)
Addiction to gambling?
---
Here's the thing.
This list ONLY applies to White NFL players.
In a non-white minority player has any of these issues, it's because he has had to live in a white world, and therefore is a victim who CANNOT ever be held responsible for his actions.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:30 AM (aT+Bx)
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To the .01% of fantasy players who started Marcedes Lewis at tight end, congratulations on your win.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:31 AM (GsAUU)
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 11:31 AM (bfUpy)
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Wear chaps..... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (wYseH)
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Yeah, too bad my fat arse is still covered by something. Just can't wrap my head around chaps only.
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Yeah, too bad my fat arse is still covered by something. Just can't wrap my head around chaps only.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:31 AM (MIKMs)
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281 "I also finally watched Downfall a couple of nights ago. "
Great flick. We've all seen the parodies but it's great throughout.
The scariest character is Magda Goebbels.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (cAXIk)
Yes. Simultaneously fanatical and ice cold.
Great flick. We've all seen the parodies but it's great throughout.
The scariest character is Magda Goebbels.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:28 AM (cAXIk)
Yes. Simultaneously fanatical and ice cold.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (NWiLs)
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Trump won't get much support from NFL players. NFL is 60+% AA.
Kneelers are likely to be in the majority soon on every NFL team-- "unity," right? "Solidarity"?
Kneelers are likely to be in the majority soon on every NFL team-- "unity," right? "Solidarity"?
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (v6Osy)
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Obama injected himself into non-federal issues, is that not correct? In an incendiary fashion.
==
I see what you mean now.
I agree. I would rather our leaders express opinions in public than spew politically-correct marketing material.
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I see what you mean now.
I agree. I would rather our leaders express opinions in public than spew politically-correct marketing material.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (2wRtc)
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Shibumi, in the Dominion Tank Police universe, Uni and I can't be held responsible for all the crimes we committed. We are after all android AIs, how can we be held accountable if our programming is buggy nyah?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (Ktewm)
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"I'm grinding my way through Hugh Thomas' "The Spanish Civil War." "
I haven't read this, but my neighbor's late father was a veteran of the Lincoln Battalion, and I interviewed him a few decades ago. He was not impressed with the Russian "advisors" and remarked that the Russian rifles were so poorly made that the stocks fell off in one's hand. He returned to the States when the international brigades were pulled out; said he had serious infections in his feet from poor diet.
He told me he was not particularly "political" beforehand, but was fascinated by Spain, and was learning chicken farming, and he hoped to contribute to improving Spanish agriculture. He seems to have joined the American volunteers on a whim, when one of his friends was going.
When he went into the U.S. Army, he wanted very much to fight in Europe, especially since he had undergone infiltration training in Spain, but the army considered him "politically suspicious" and kept him Stateside. At least they had him giving lectures on "why we fight." He always considered himself one of the "premature anti-Fascists."
I haven't read this, but my neighbor's late father was a veteran of the Lincoln Battalion, and I interviewed him a few decades ago. He was not impressed with the Russian "advisors" and remarked that the Russian rifles were so poorly made that the stocks fell off in one's hand. He returned to the States when the international brigades were pulled out; said he had serious infections in his feet from poor diet.
He told me he was not particularly "political" beforehand, but was fascinated by Spain, and was learning chicken farming, and he hoped to contribute to improving Spanish agriculture. He seems to have joined the American volunteers on a whim, when one of his friends was going.
When he went into the U.S. Army, he wanted very much to fight in Europe, especially since he had undergone infiltration training in Spain, but the army considered him "politically suspicious" and kept him Stateside. At least they had him giving lectures on "why we fight." He always considered himself one of the "premature anti-Fascists."
Posted by: Alifa at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (96yfN)
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I'm in the mood for silly and humorous reading. Haven't started them yet but I dug out my copies of "Bored of the Rings", the Calvin and Hobbes collections, and the two books comedian Alan King wrote back in the early 1960s.
Posted by: JTB at September 24, 2017 11:33 AM (V+03K)
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Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (6FqZa)
--Pius XII has been exonerated, at least in my mind.
The late Sir Martin Gilbert, Churchill's official biographer, married to a scholar of the Holocaust --oh, and a Jew-- said the case against Pius is ridiculous.
--Pius XII has been exonerated, at least in my mind.
The late Sir Martin Gilbert, Churchill's official biographer, married to a scholar of the Holocaust --oh, and a Jew-- said the case against Pius is ridiculous.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (GsAUU)
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Kneeling - meh.
Kneeling is a sign of submission. You kneel before your God. You kneel before your King when he bestows great honor upon you.
All this modern kneeling is just not standing. If the announcer were to say, let us kneel in reverence to our national anthem, these attention seeking juveniles would stand. During moments of reverent silence, they would talk and laugh, and horse around.
It is nothing more than rebellion, and a demand for attention.
I'm not giving them any attention. They don't deserve it.
Kneeling is a sign of submission. You kneel before your God. You kneel before your King when he bestows great honor upon you.
All this modern kneeling is just not standing. If the announcer were to say, let us kneel in reverence to our national anthem, these attention seeking juveniles would stand. During moments of reverent silence, they would talk and laugh, and horse around.
It is nothing more than rebellion, and a demand for attention.
I'm not giving them any attention. They don't deserve it.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (m9X4Y)
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If most of these kneelers weren't kneeling in the NFL, they'd be the ones getting shot by the cops in commission of crimes.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
________
Can't always blame the cops when a black guy gets shot.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
________
Can't always blame the cops when a black guy gets shot.
Posted by: Plaxico Burress at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (zkGZ8)
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OT: Looks like Germany is going to elect Merkel again.
Wouldn't it be easier and more efficient to just fire up the ovens and send out letters informing her subjects when they need to show up?
Wouldn't it be easier and more efficient to just fire up the ovens and send out letters informing her subjects when they need to show up?
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (aT+Bx)
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What Vic said. Back in Hammurabi's day if you veered off from discussing his Code into complaining about those damned Elamites the king used to have the off-topic scribe bashed on the head with his own clay tablets
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (6FqZa)
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Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)
He's my absolute favorite author! I've read all of his books...well except that one.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (Enq6K)
"Spencerville" was kind of a dog, though. Not worth reading.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:20 AM (TdMsT)
He's my absolute favorite author! I've read all of his books...well except that one.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:25 AM (Enq6K)
"Spencerville" was kind of a dog, though. Not worth reading.
Posted by: Ladylibertarian at September 24, 2017 11:35 AM (TdMsT)
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Missed a lot of book threads lately as this has become my range time.
Bought an antique Kindle at a garage sale a few weeks ago, woohoo !
Lotsa free content at gutenberg.org.
Re-reading Carlyles history of the French Revolution right now.
Bought an antique Kindle at a garage sale a few weeks ago, woohoo !
Lotsa free content at gutenberg.org.
Re-reading Carlyles history of the French Revolution right now.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 24, 2017 11:35 AM (Z8R9P)
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Roger Goodell just got a big fat contract extension because he's made the NFL a marketing machine that has pumped up the value of NFL franchises. This can quickly change.
By taking a soft approach with Kaepernick, Goodell has let the contagion spread. Now players feel they have to protest, and Goodell (and the owners) now can't contain it.
Ratings and attendance will decline. The new LA franchises are especially at risk. Try getting another municipality to go broke to pay for a new stadium.
And then watch when TV network contracts come up for renewal.
By taking a soft approach with Kaepernick, Goodell has let the contagion spread. Now players feel they have to protest, and Goodell (and the owners) now can't contain it.
Ratings and attendance will decline. The new LA franchises are especially at risk. Try getting another municipality to go broke to pay for a new stadium.
And then watch when TV network contracts come up for renewal.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:36 AM (cAXIk)
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Back in Hammurabi's day if you veered off from discussing his Code into complaining about those damned Elamites the king used to have the off-topic scribe bashed on the head with his own clay tablets
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yikes !
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yikes !
Posted by: runner at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (QC/4S)
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It's ok to be divisive ... in your mind. Just don't say anything about it. PDT is divisive because he might encourage other people to be openly divisive. But he should not. By golly, he SHALL not!
Posted by: Shia LaBeouf at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (/qEW2)
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*looks at ticket price*
$6.25 for a matinee showing. And the theaters wonder why I don't go as often as I used to.
$6.25 for a matinee showing. And the theaters wonder why I don't go as often as I used to.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (Ktewm)
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So, I began wondering about the linkage between sports and the National Anthem. A quick Bing search dredges up this book:
Star-Spangled Banner
The Unlikely Story of America's National Anthem
by Marc Ferris
Is anybody familiar with this book?
Star-Spangled Banner
The Unlikely Story of America's National Anthem
by Marc Ferris
Is anybody familiar with this book?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (wPiJc)
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RE: the NFL, I posted this last night on the ONT from 4chan:
Work with the NFL; some inside information of the shitstorm currently going on.
1.
Some NFL teams have been looking into firing players who are pulling
this protest shit. But their lawyers have all told them, while they can
do it, the fired players could then take them to court and win. The
49ers were among these teams, who have consulted their lawyers; hence
why CK never got fired. Their lawyers told them it was cheaper to just
let him do his bullshit.
2. Goodell knows he has fucked up big
time, but can't do anything except tacitly let the teams blacklist
players who pull this shit. Goodell and most of the coaches, know that
the players throwing these tantrums have them by the balls. The player's
union has sided with them, creating more problems, and you have hate
machines like ESPN further making it impossible to do anything to reign
players in.
3. That being said, Goodell is seriously considering
the "Activism Month" promotion some of the players are pushing, to try
and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed. Basically
officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap, but in
a tightly controlled way orchestrated by the league to keep some sense
of control over it.
Work with the NFL; some inside information of the shitstorm currently going on.
1.
Some NFL teams have been looking into firing players who are pulling
this protest shit. But their lawyers have all told them, while they can
do it, the fired players could then take them to court and win. The
49ers were among these teams, who have consulted their lawyers; hence
why CK never got fired. Their lawyers told them it was cheaper to just
let him do his bullshit.
2. Goodell knows he has fucked up big
time, but can't do anything except tacitly let the teams blacklist
players who pull this shit. Goodell and most of the coaches, know that
the players throwing these tantrums have them by the balls. The player's
union has sided with them, creating more problems, and you have hate
machines like ESPN further making it impossible to do anything to reign
players in.
3. That being said, Goodell is seriously considering
the "Activism Month" promotion some of the players are pushing, to try
and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed. Basically
officially sanction November for players to do this kind of crap, but in
a tightly controlled way orchestrated by the league to keep some sense
of control over it.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (aT+Bx)
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it is inappropriate for me to mention this norman lloyd here. he is an actor/director/producer mostly for television. most of you people don't watch television; heck, many of you don't even have computers! reading and all, where it is, happening, get down, etc. but he is associated with fairly literate productions. born in 1914, he came up in the 30's, close friends with houseman and wells and later in the 40's became close to hitchcock, acting in several of his movies. he also played recurrent roles in "alfred hitchcock presents", as well as directing and producing episodes. that's where i came across his name as i recently have been watching reruns, such as "old man from the south" (peter lorre bets steve mcqueen his finger if he can't light a zippo 10 straight times in a story by raoul dahl). in any case, lloyd is still acting at 103 years, only recently gave up driving and tennis. his wife, peggy, died in 2011. they were married 75 years. 75 years! thought i'd mention that after reading about bradbury.
but i won't.
but i won't.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (AxFdW)
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I wish someone would simply ask these NFL idiots EXACTLY WHAT are they protesting by kneeling during the national anthem.
What? What has the United States as a country done that offends them so much that they refuse to acknowledge that they are a citizen loyal to the country. What do they want changed.
Just ONCE would some dipshit television pundit or host ask them this directly.
What? What has the United States as a country done that offends them so much that they refuse to acknowledge that they are a citizen loyal to the country. What do they want changed.
Just ONCE would some dipshit television pundit or host ask them this directly.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 11:39 AM (/Qs0S)
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Activism Month?
How about just one day? It was good enough when Landriu guided the people to only have one day of madness. Look how well it all turned out.
How about just one day? It was good enough when Landriu guided the people to only have one day of madness. Look how well it all turned out.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (Ktewm)
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308 *looks at ticket price*
$6.25 for a matinee showing. And the theaters wonder why I don't go as often as I used to.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (Ktewm)
--I haven't seen anything in the theater since American Sniper over two years ago.
And that was in a second-tun theater for $2.
$6.25 for a matinee showing. And the theaters wonder why I don't go as often as I used to.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:37 AM (Ktewm)
--I haven't seen anything in the theater since American Sniper over two years ago.
And that was in a second-tun theater for $2.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (GsAUU)
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I'm a pretty big fan of Emerson, Lake and Palmer, so I went to Amazon a while back looking for a copy of Keith's autobiography Pictures of an Exhibitionist.
Prices started at $140 and went up from there. What a way to find out it was out of print.
Prices started at $140 and went up from there. What a way to find out it was out of print.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (tRaq7)
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As to reading this week, I read and also listened to a very good reading of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, by William Shirer. I know that some historians criticized him (for not being a "real" historian), but it seems to me that if more journalists could go to primary documents plus draw on their own experiences (Shirer was a correspondent based in Berlin in the 1930s as Hitler came to power), we might still have some respect for the (former) profession. Shirer was a very astute observer, and he also got some very daring scoops. I need to find Berlin Diary next.
I also enjoyed Andrew Nagorski's "Hitlerland," which gave a lot of insight into how so many Germans and non-Germans were (at least initially) attracted to Hitler the upcoming politician. Worth remembering.
Now I'm listening to an audiobook version of Teacher Man by Frank McCourt. Sometimes I think he tries to be too Irishly literary, but listening to him reading the book in his Limerick accent is fun, and some of the stories of the students are very moving.
I also enjoyed Andrew Nagorski's "Hitlerland," which gave a lot of insight into how so many Germans and non-Germans were (at least initially) attracted to Hitler the upcoming politician. Worth remembering.
Now I'm listening to an audiobook version of Teacher Man by Frank McCourt. Sometimes I think he tries to be too Irishly literary, but listening to him reading the book in his Limerick accent is fun, and some of the stories of the students are very moving.
Posted by: Alifa at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (96yfN)
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If most of these kneelers weren't kneeling in the NFL, they'd be the ones getting shot by the cops in commission of crimes.
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It's almost a mathematical relationship within the last 15 years of professional sports: anyone who is able to ascend to that level of athletic competition is almost invariably an anti-social, raging narcissist who has the morals and social relationship skills of a red-assed baboon. Race got nothing to do with it.
There are fewer and fewer exceptions to the rule.
They should read more. ( See? Book Thread-related!)
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It's almost a mathematical relationship within the last 15 years of professional sports: anyone who is able to ascend to that level of athletic competition is almost invariably an anti-social, raging narcissist who has the morals and social relationship skills of a red-assed baboon. Race got nothing to do with it.
There are fewer and fewer exceptions to the rule.
They should read more. ( See? Book Thread-related!)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (2wRtc)
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293 Trump won't get much support from NFL players. NFL is 60+% AA.
Kneelers are likely to be in the majority soon on every NFL team-- "unity," right? "Solidarity"?
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (v6Osy)
I seriously doubt that's his target audience. His target is those that buy tickets and merchandise. He knows exactly where to hit.
Kneelers are likely to be in the majority soon on every NFL team-- "unity," right? "Solidarity"?
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:32 AM (v6Osy)
I seriously doubt that's his target audience. His target is those that buy tickets and merchandise. He knows exactly where to hit.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (Enq6K)
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Still reading "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. He would say that this national anthem protest nonsense isn't doing me any harm. I would have to agree.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (zkGZ8)
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Norman Lloyd? Dr. Auschlander from 'St. Elsewhere?' Geez, he looked like he would have died back in the 80s.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (oVJmc)
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Missed a lot of book threads lately as this has become my range time.
Bought an antique Kindle at a garage sale a few weeks ago, woohoo !
Lotsa free content at gutenberg.org.
Re-reading Carlyles history of the French Revolution right now.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 24, 2017 11:35 AM (Z8R9P)
If you like SF check out the Baen Free Library for a good place to start building up your read list.
Missed a lot of book threads lately as this has become my range time.
Bought an antique Kindle at a garage sale a few weeks ago, woohoo !
Lotsa free content at gutenberg.org.
Re-reading Carlyles history of the French Revolution right now.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/7 at September 24, 2017 11:35 AM (Z8R9P)
If you like SF check out the Baen Free Library for a good place to start building up your read list.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (mpXpK)
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Air show coming here next week. There is a circular in today's local fish wrap. The first one here locally was in 1912 on August 27. Aviation Day. We get to hear and see the AF Thunderbirds practicing all week!
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (bfUpy)
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Another young history recommendation: Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier. It is a memoir of a young guy from Alsace Lorraine with a German mother and a French father who was drafted into the German Army and fights on the Eastern Front. There was some controversy as to whether the story was true, and there are errors of recollection, but I think it is pretty well proved now that it is true. Guy Sajer is a pseudonym for Guy Mouminoux and he did fight on the Eastern Front. He does not present himself as a hero and instead says he was scarcely better than the biggest coward in the outfit. There are some problems with translation. It took me forever to figure out that a "grenade thrower" was a mortar. It's a very you-are-there feeling book of the horrors of war.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)
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the NFL story is a good example of the FNM twisting a story. Local channel actually played the clip of DJT. "wouldn't you love to see some NFL owner(s) tell the disrespectful very highly paid athletes 'you're fired'?" The FNM acts like he called for firings rather than stating what the average person at his rally was thinking. darn right they'd like to see more owners fire asshole players, even if they have toned down the disrespect from Kraperdreck initially keeping his worthless ass on the bench to the taking a knee.
Posted by: PaleRider at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (8qFZP)
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262 ...domestic violence
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
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Wasn't Aaron Hernandez involved in a murder? And don't forget OJ.
...drug possession
...weapons offenses
...assault
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:13 AM (wPiJc)
You forgot
...DUI
...cruelty to animals
...vehicular manslaughter
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Wasn't Aaron Hernandez involved in a murder? And don't forget OJ.
Posted by: Boots at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (EBwPV)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (2wRtc)
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Pittsburgh Steelers are not as a team gojng to be on the field during National Anthem today ( Fox Media Buzz)
Posted by: Skip at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (ghofu)
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How about just one day? It was good enough when
Landriu guided the people to only have one day of madness. Look how well
it all turned out. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (Ktewm)
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One month (in a four month season) to let everyone's freak flag fly. Snort.
How about just one day? It was good enough when
Landriu guided the people to only have one day of madness. Look how well
it all turned out. Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:40 AM (Ktewm)
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One month (in a four month season) to let everyone's freak flag fly. Snort.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (MIKMs)
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319 Still reading "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. He would say that this national anthem protest nonsense isn't doing me any harm. I would have to agree.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (zkGZ
--I'm still reading that as well.
I'm way behind the rest of the Book Morons.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:41 AM (zkGZ
--I'm still reading that as well.
I'm way behind the rest of the Book Morons.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (GsAUU)
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Shibumi,
The NFL lawyers telling them they will be sued is absolute BS. The contract they have between the players and the league specifically states that players can be dismissed either by the NFL or by team owners should they behave publically or privately in any manner that brings disrepute or is damaging to the team or league. It's the basis of the dispute right now between Ezekiel Elliott and Goodell over being suspended for six games for a domestic abuse incident he claims(and has proof) never happened.
If your on field behavior is causing your team to lose revenue due to gate losses, television ads pulled, etc. any team owner has every right to fire you for it. Just the same as if you and I stood up in a retail store we were employed by and started telling customers we thought they were racists, or they were dressed badly or whatever.
The NFL lawyers telling them they will be sued is absolute BS. The contract they have between the players and the league specifically states that players can be dismissed either by the NFL or by team owners should they behave publically or privately in any manner that brings disrepute or is damaging to the team or league. It's the basis of the dispute right now between Ezekiel Elliott and Goodell over being suspended for six games for a domestic abuse incident he claims(and has proof) never happened.
If your on field behavior is causing your team to lose revenue due to gate losses, television ads pulled, etc. any team owner has every right to fire you for it. Just the same as if you and I stood up in a retail store we were employed by and started telling customers we thought they were racists, or they were dressed badly or whatever.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 11:44 AM (/Qs0S)
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NFL and murder, don't forget Caruthers of the Carolina Panthers. Put a contract hit on his pregnant girlfriend. She was murdered and her son was born handicapped.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (Ktewm)
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Work with the NFL; some inside information of the shitstorm currently going on....
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (aT+Bx)
It's kind of funny and kind of sad, watching once-great institutions implode. Hubris blinds them to the reality that they do not and cannot control their own demise, once it gets rolling fast enough.
I think we're past the point of anybody inside the NFL being able to stop this, even if they weren't a complete gaggle of mottled greedy egomaniacs who are pretty much the perfect embodiment of at least three of the first four deadly sins.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:38 AM (aT+Bx)
It's kind of funny and kind of sad, watching once-great institutions implode. Hubris blinds them to the reality that they do not and cannot control their own demise, once it gets rolling fast enough.
I think we're past the point of anybody inside the NFL being able to stop this, even if they weren't a complete gaggle of mottled greedy egomaniacs who are pretty much the perfect embodiment of at least three of the first four deadly sins.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (Pz4pT)
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I'm reading Katy Tur's book UNbelievable about her covering Trump.
She's remarkably self-absorbed. Doubly so in an account of how she lucked into a long assignment to cover what turned out to be a momentous event.
She also doesn't want to acknowledge that she had a crush of sorts on The Donald, and how he singled her out to play her. No question she'd have gone for the full Fifty Shades treatment if he had asked, and in a way she did by dropping boyfriends along the way to stay hot on Trump's trail.
She's remarkably self-absorbed. Doubly so in an account of how she lucked into a long assignment to cover what turned out to be a momentous event.
She also doesn't want to acknowledge that she had a crush of sorts on The Donald, and how he singled her out to play her. No question she'd have gone for the full Fifty Shades treatment if he had asked, and in a way she did by dropping boyfriends along the way to stay hot on Trump's trail.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (cAXIk)
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Hubby returned from his book signing in STL (Ballwin). Sold 6 books in all, OK for a 2-hr event. The real story is that he also had time to explore downtown STL and he said he had a great time and no problems whatsoever with protestors/rioters. Says all that is being blown way out of proportion by the media.
Posted by: Secret Square at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (9WuX0)
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308 Anna
The average price for a single seat NFL ticket is $172 (cheaper if you buy a season ticket). Doesn't include parking.
My point is, the fans who can afford these tickets are white, affluent, older suburbanites. So the NFL might not want to rub their noses in SJW bullzhit TOO much.
The average price for a single seat NFL ticket is $172 (cheaper if you buy a season ticket). Doesn't include parking.
My point is, the fans who can afford these tickets are white, affluent, older suburbanites. So the NFL might not want to rub their noses in SJW bullzhit TOO much.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (v6Osy)
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to try and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed.
******
I love a mixed metaphor as much as the next person, but wouldn't fit better to "try and reign in something that has been un-lieged"?
******
I love a mixed metaphor as much as the next person, but wouldn't fit better to "try and reign in something that has been un-lieged"?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (wPiJc)
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (2wRtc)
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323 Another young history recommendation: Guy Sajer's The Forgotten Soldier. It is a memoir of a young guy from Alsace Lorraine with a German mother and a French father who was drafted into the German Army and fights on the Eastern Front. There was some controversy as to whether the story was true, and there are errors of recollection, but I think it is pretty well proved now that it is true. Guy Sajer is a pseudonym for Guy Mouminoux and he did fight on the Eastern Front. He does not present himself as a hero and instead says he was scarcely better than the biggest coward in the outfit. There are some problems with translation. It took me forever to figure out that a "grenade thrower" was a mortar. It's a very you-are-there feeling book of the horrors of war.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)
--I'll probably read that eventually.
Because of the centennial, I am on a serious WWI kick.
Wittgenstein also fought on the Eastern Front (for Austria-Hungary).
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:42 AM (Nwg0u)
--I'll probably read that eventually.
Because of the centennial, I am on a serious WWI kick.
Wittgenstein also fought on the Eastern Front (for Austria-Hungary).
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (GsAUU)
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331 NFL and murder, don't forget Caruthers of the Carolina Panthers. Put a contract hit on his pregnant girlfriend. She was murdered and her son was born handicapped.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (Ktewm)
--Ray Carruth
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (Ktewm)
--Ray Carruth
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:46 AM (GsAUU)
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For some reason, that really pisses me off even more. They have (had?) arguably the best fan base in the league, and yet they decide to piss on them.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)
Green Bay is doing this?? What, are they high? Green Bay is a conservative working class town, isn't it? I can see SF or NY pulling this crap, but for Green Bay to do it, they're cutting their own throats.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)
Green Bay is doing this?? What, are they high? Green Bay is a conservative working class town, isn't it? I can see SF or NY pulling this crap, but for Green Bay to do it, they're cutting their own throats.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:46 AM (gG2l4)
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275 The other sixteen were still listening to their media and PR gurus, getting dressed and make-uped,
makeup, makeupping, makeupped. one who makeups: makeupper. doing the things done by a makeupper: makeuppery. "good job with the makuppery today, doris." "reported."
english is awesome
makeup, makeupping, makeupped. one who makeups: makeupper. doing the things done by a makeupper: makeuppery. "good job with the makuppery today, doris." "reported."
english is awesome
Posted by: Anachronda at September 24, 2017 11:46 AM (YyH4g)
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One month (in a four month season) to let everyone's freak flag fly. Snort.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (MIKMs)
They picked November because it includes Thanksgiving day...big day of NFL viewing.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:43 AM (MIKMs)
They picked November because it includes Thanksgiving day...big day of NFL viewing.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:47 AM (Enq6K)
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Still reading "Meditations" by Marcus Aurelius. He would say that this national anthem protest nonsense isn't doing me any harm.
Well, it's more than ten miles from his house.
Well, it's more than ten miles from his house.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:47 AM (oVJmc)
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They picked November because it includes Thanksgiving day...big day of NFL viewing.
Not any more.
They picked November because it includes Thanksgiving day...big day of NFL viewing.
Not any more.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 11:47 AM (oVJmc)
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I wish someone would simply ask these NFL idiots EXACTLY WHAT are they protesting by kneeling during the national anthem.
Posted by: Jen the original
________
They're raising awareness of justice issues awareness to as a platform to consciousness the social stand against issues. Black lives matter! No Nukes! Tin soldiers and Nixon coming! Where have all the flowers gone? I won't play for Texaco!
Posted by: Jen the original
________
They're raising awareness of justice issues awareness to as a platform to consciousness the social stand against issues. Black lives matter! No Nukes! Tin soldiers and Nixon coming! Where have all the flowers gone? I won't play for Texaco!
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:48 AM (zkGZ8)
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--Pius XII has been exonerated, at least in my mind.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (GsAUU)
That book by Cornwall or Cornwell, or whatever his name is, about how Pius was secretly helping Hitler carry out the holocaust, was complete bullshit.
Posted by: logprof at September 24, 2017 11:34 AM (GsAUU)
That book by Cornwall or Cornwell, or whatever his name is, about how Pius was secretly helping Hitler carry out the holocaust, was complete bullshit.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader at September 24, 2017 11:49 AM (gG2l4)
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Skandia Recluse, even "bad" reviews can be good E.g. "this book had absolutely NO reference to cultural oppression!" or "Too many guns, too many happy hetero couples." Also, we writers like to get at least some "meh" reviews because that makes the giddy 5-star reviews seem real. It's a bad sign when a book has only "this book cured my cancer!" reviews and NO reviews below 5 star. Pretty distinctive pattern for review scamming.
Anna Puma, I had not heard of the Pen to Publish thing. Usually those contests don't do as well for me as just publishing the damn book myself. I keep all my IP rights in my grubby paws--that way when my first movie comes out I can hold a Moron-only screening!
E.g. "this book had absolutely NO reference to cultural oppression!" or "Too many guns, too many happy hetero couples." Also, we writers like to get at least some "meh" reviews because that makes the giddy 5-star reviews seem real. It's a bad sign when a book has only "this book cured my cancer!" reviews and NO reviews below 5 star. Pretty distinctive pattern for review scamming.Anna Puma, I had not heard of the Pen to Publish thing. Usually those contests don't do as well for me as just publishing the damn book myself. I keep all my IP rights in my grubby paws--that way when my first movie comes out I can hold a Moron-only screening!
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:49 AM (hnzFp)
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Great War upcoming Centenary event - Operation Albion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Albion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Albion
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:50 AM (Ktewm)
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 11:50 AM (Enq6K)
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They're raising awareness of justice issues awareness to as a platform
to consciousness the social stand against issues. Black lives matter!
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And one day, if they kneel hard enough and long enough, America white voters might even elect a black president.
to consciousness the social stand against issues. Black lives matter!
==
And one day, if they kneel hard enough and long enough, America white voters might even elect a black president.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:51 AM (2wRtc)
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For some reason, that really pisses me off even more. They have (had?) arguably the best fan base in the league, and yet they decide to piss on them.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)
Brown county (where Green Bay is located) voted for Trump in the last election and GP is a blue collar town filled with a lot of deplorables who have loved the team passionately since childhood.
Yes, it's infuriating.
Posted by: IrishEi at September 24, 2017 11:26 AM (HiDrR)
Brown county (where Green Bay is located) voted for Trump in the last election and GP is a blue collar town filled with a lot of deplorables who have loved the team passionately since childhood.
Yes, it's infuriating.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 11:51 AM (P8951)
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The NFL is going to sanction a protest month in November?!
Goodell just took his dick out, put in on the table, and is about to slam the poor little thing.
Recall that this is a league that fines players for Excessive Celebrating in the end zone.
Goodell just took his dick out, put in on the table, and is about to slam the poor little thing.
Recall that this is a league that fines players for Excessive Celebrating in the end zone.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (cAXIk)
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to try and reign in the shit storm that has been unleashed.
******
I love a mixed metaphor as much as the next person, but wouldn't fit
better to "try and reign in something that has been un-lieged"?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (wPiJc)
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Envy is a sin, envy is a sin, envy is a sin.
I love you, Muldoon.
Envy is a sin, envy is a sin, etc.
******
I love a mixed metaphor as much as the next person, but wouldn't fit
better to "try and reign in something that has been un-lieged"?
Posted by: Muldoon at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (wPiJc)
=====
Envy is a sin, envy is a sin, envy is a sin.
I love you, Muldoon.
Envy is a sin, envy is a sin, etc.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (MIKMs)
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The NFL lawyers telling them they will be sued is absolute BS. The
contract they have between the players and the league specifically
states that players can be dismissed either by the NFL or by team owners
should they behave publically or privately in any manner that brings
disrepute or is damaging to the team or league. It's the basis of the
dispute right now between Ezekiel Elliott and Goodell over being
suspended for six games for a domestic abuse incident he claims(and has
proof) never happened.
If your on field behavior is causing your team to lose revenue due
to gate losses, television ads pulled, etc. any team owner has every
right to fire you for it. Just the same as if you and I stood up in a
retail store we were employed by and started telling customers we
thought they were racists, or they were dressed badly or whatever.
---
Jen-- it's just something I found at 4chan that might or might not be accurate.
However... I can see the players lawyers arguing that their freedom of speech trumps any sort of NFL contract, and/or that the NFL cannot prove that their actions are damaging the league.
I can also see this as the non-white players trying to create racial problems, and, if they were publicly quashed, calling on BLM to destroy things.
Remember, rules and laws do not apply to non-whites, only white republicans, and most especially to white republican Christian men.
contract they have between the players and the league specifically
states that players can be dismissed either by the NFL or by team owners
should they behave publically or privately in any manner that brings
disrepute or is damaging to the team or league. It's the basis of the
dispute right now between Ezekiel Elliott and Goodell over being
suspended for six games for a domestic abuse incident he claims(and has
proof) never happened.
If your on field behavior is causing your team to lose revenue due
to gate losses, television ads pulled, etc. any team owner has every
right to fire you for it. Just the same as if you and I stood up in a
retail store we were employed by and started telling customers we
thought they were racists, or they were dressed badly or whatever.
---
Jen-- it's just something I found at 4chan that might or might not be accurate.
However... I can see the players lawyers arguing that their freedom of speech trumps any sort of NFL contract, and/or that the NFL cannot prove that their actions are damaging the league.
I can also see this as the non-white players trying to create racial problems, and, if they were publicly quashed, calling on BLM to destroy things.
Remember, rules and laws do not apply to non-whites, only white republicans, and most especially to white republican Christian men.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (aT+Bx)
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320: yup, that norman lloyd. was in "st. elsewhere" and is still acting today. how is that possible? he played tennis all his life (became friends with chaplin through tennis and was in "limelight"). stay active, people!
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (AxFdW)
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A La Carte cable channels.
Crush the Beast.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (2wRtc)
Never going to happen. Verizon attempted it, in a limited way, and ESPN was in court the very next day, suing them.
If you're a cable provider, and you want to carry ANY sports, you bend over and let ESPN dictate terms.
Cutting the cable is the only way.
A La Carte cable channels.
Crush the Beast.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:45 AM (2wRtc)
Never going to happen. Verizon attempted it, in a limited way, and ESPN was in court the very next day, suing them.
If you're a cable provider, and you want to carry ANY sports, you bend over and let ESPN dictate terms.
Cutting the cable is the only way.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 11:53 AM (EgwCt)
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349 Tami
We'll have to wait to find out.
I guess I view everything through the prism of disastrous historical decisions.
I don't think history teaches ANY lessons per se, NONE.
But, it does kind of suggest that a little caution is a good thing, I think.
We'll have to wait to find out.
I guess I view everything through the prism of disastrous historical decisions.
I don't think history teaches ANY lessons per se, NONE.
But, it does kind of suggest that a little caution is a good thing, I think.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:53 AM (v6Osy)
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Sabrina Chase, a Moron only screening? Sounds like another Great Vegas Moron Meet is in the offering.
Using the Pen and Publish deadline of November 10th more like I used NaNoWriMo, an incentive to finish up a book of which I have several in a half-state.
But it would be nice to win $22,000 and a book contract from Amazon.
Using the Pen and Publish deadline of November 10th more like I used NaNoWriMo, an incentive to finish up a book of which I have several in a half-state.
But it would be nice to win $22,000 and a book contract from Amazon.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (Ktewm)
359
So the Left insists their right to take a knee is protected by freedom of speech. But they'll beat the shit out of any conservative speaker who shows up at Berkley - either that, or force said to speaker to spend a fortune on security....just to protect their right to speak.
Fuck these people. Fuck the double standard. I'm sorry for my cursing. And by the way, I'm a Jags fan. We're up big time, and I can't enjoy this.
Fuck these people. Fuck the double standard. I'm sorry for my cursing. And by the way, I'm a Jags fan. We're up big time, and I can't enjoy this.
Posted by: Mike at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (c056A)
360
Pittsburgh Steelers are not as a team going to be on the field during National Anthem today (Fox Media Buzz)
Posted by: Skip
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At least they're doing whatever they're doing as a team.
Posted by: Skip
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At least they're doing whatever they're doing as a team.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 11:54 AM (zkGZ8)
361
Never going to happen. Verizon attempted it, in a limited way, and ESPN was in court the very next day, suing them.
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If Ma Bell can be busted up, so can the Cable Monopoly.
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If Ma Bell can be busted up, so can the Cable Monopoly.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:56 AM (2wRtc)
362
OregonMuse: there was a case to be made that Pius XII Didn't Do Enough; the case was made, and found to be false. I'm glad of the books which made the case so they could be refuted.
But to rehash the arguments now without taking the exonerations into account is bad scholarship. That's why I invoked leyenda negra: it's just antiCatholic bigotry now and publishers should quit indulging it.
But to rehash the arguments now without taking the exonerations into account is bad scholarship. That's why I invoked leyenda negra: it's just antiCatholic bigotry now and publishers should quit indulging it.
Posted by: boulder terlit hobo at September 24, 2017 11:56 AM (6FqZa)
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"The National Nervous Breakdown" was basically caused by 50 years of "date rape drug" given to our children, then their children. It largely was imposed by Soviets infiltrating society ... that march through the institutions, with massive enemy funding. American Loyalty and fidelity was 'penetrated' by a probing enemy that softened us up for decades with demoralizing propaganda.
Defected former Soviet propagandist Yuri Bexmenov describes what is going on today in chilling terms. "Chilling" because he gave this lecture in 1983. (I think there is a 3 hour version, my link is one hour)
Demoralize
Destabilize
Crisis ... via civil war or attack.
They seem to be pushing the "civil war" now using not only antifa and Hillary "resisting", but elements in the Deep State in every agency. Military conflict is unlikely, but ideally it is unnecessary anyway. That has been the point of the last 50 years, to make people hate America and accept "infiltration" and surrender of sovereignty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
Defected former Soviet propagandist Yuri Bexmenov describes what is going on today in chilling terms. "Chilling" because he gave this lecture in 1983. (I think there is a 3 hour version, my link is one hour)
Demoralize
Destabilize
Crisis ... via civil war or attack.
They seem to be pushing the "civil war" now using not only antifa and Hillary "resisting", but elements in the Deep State in every agency. Military conflict is unlikely, but ideally it is unnecessary anyway. That has been the point of the last 50 years, to make people hate America and accept "infiltration" and surrender of sovereignty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gnpCqsXE8g
Posted by: illiniwek at September 24, 2017 11:57 AM (yKAUL)
364
To Paladin,
Thank you. Yes I should finish up Alexandria and get it out there for those who liked Golden Isis. See what other trouble Diana and Catherine can get into and out of.
Thank you. Yes I should finish up Alexandria and get it out there for those who liked Golden Isis. See what other trouble Diana and Catherine can get into and out of.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 11:58 AM (Ktewm)
365
Remember, rules and laws do not apply to non-whites, only white republicans, and most especially to white republican Christian men.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (aT+Bx)
The league hierarchy are all SJW themselves. By the way, the NFL is a 501 C tax exempt organization. It's organized as a non profit. If it continues to move down the road of political advocacy, then it's 501 status should be revoked.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 11:52 AM (aT+Bx)
The league hierarchy are all SJW themselves. By the way, the NFL is a 501 C tax exempt organization. It's organized as a non profit. If it continues to move down the road of political advocacy, then it's 501 status should be revoked.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 24, 2017 11:58 AM (/Qs0S)
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Fuck the NFL and fuck the NBA.
Fuck the MLB player in Oakland who took a knee, yesterday.
Finally, fuck all those idiots who compare / conflate this nonsense to 'Free Speech'.
Fuck the MLB player in Oakland who took a knee, yesterday.
Finally, fuck all those idiots who compare / conflate this nonsense to 'Free Speech'.
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2017 11:58 AM (7hB0y)
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"However... I can see the players lawyers arguing that their freedom of speech trumps any sort of NFL contract, and/or that the NFL cannot prove that their actions are damaging the league."
ESPN and Google (among others) have fired people for political opinions expressed away from their place of employment. QED, on the legal point.
The NFL will wind up dropping the Anthem, I expect.
ESPN and Google (among others) have fired people for political opinions expressed away from their place of employment. QED, on the legal point.
The NFL will wind up dropping the Anthem, I expect.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 11:58 AM (cAXIk)
368
Is this the thread for saying the National Felon League can eat a bag of dicks, cuz the NFL can eat a bag of dicks.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 24, 2017 11:59 AM (xInes)
369
Well, I read this comic book a few days ago: Tres Fabulae Horrificae.
https://tinyurl.com/y7acfc7g
A Latin comic book of horror tales. I was a little disappointed that the tales were not original but Latin versions of well known tales, exempli gratia Manus Simii, The Monkey's Paw. Still, I was quite pleased that I could read them with few if any resorts to the dictionary.
https://tinyurl.com/y7acfc7g
A Latin comic book of horror tales. I was a little disappointed that the tales were not original but Latin versions of well known tales, exempli gratia Manus Simii, The Monkey's Paw. Still, I was quite pleased that I could read them with few if any resorts to the dictionary.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 11:59 AM (Nwg0u)
370
368 Is this the thread for saying the National Felon League can eat a bag of dicks, cuz the NFL can eat a bag of dicks.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 24, 2017 11:59 AM (xInes)
*sigh*
Better call my supplier.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at September 24, 2017 11:59 AM (xInes)
*sigh*
Better call my supplier.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 24, 2017 11:59 AM (NWiLs)
371
They picked November because it includes Thanksgiving day...big day of NFL viewing.
Not any more.
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Family rules used to be on big football days you decided light or dark shirts for the day's games. At the end of the day, you got your quarters for which jerseys won.
Last two years, we watched cartoons.
Not any more.
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Family rules used to be on big football days you decided light or dark shirts for the day's games. At the end of the day, you got your quarters for which jerseys won.
Last two years, we watched cartoons.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 11:59 AM (MIKMs)
372
The marxists have hated football in general and the NFL in particular for decades. They've just finally found a way to kill it by using its own dumbass, self-entitled players.
Posted by: Country Singer at September 24, 2017 12:00 PM (yzxic)
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Sabrina Chase at September 24, 2017 11:49 AM
I like the way you wrote that.
I tend to discount overly enthusiastic reviews, even though I have posted one or two myself. But I am affected by bad reviews, even three star damned with faint praise.
Those reviews that ring true to me are seemingly honest understated like or dislike with a brief synapses of what the story is about. Especially not a book report style of what the author wrote.
I like surprises in my reading, and I like insight into people, places, and things; entertaining and informative.
In my review of the Torchship books further up in the thread, they were well written, and good reads. I was just put off by the price, and the ending, which was anticlimactic. (and they are already popular books on Amazon, so my opinion really doesn't matter to anyone but myself.)
I haven't really posted those thoughts on Amazon. They are for the exclusive use of members of the Moron Hoard who like science fiction.
I like the way you wrote that.
I tend to discount overly enthusiastic reviews, even though I have posted one or two myself. But I am affected by bad reviews, even three star damned with faint praise.
Those reviews that ring true to me are seemingly honest understated like or dislike with a brief synapses of what the story is about. Especially not a book report style of what the author wrote.
I like surprises in my reading, and I like insight into people, places, and things; entertaining and informative.
In my review of the Torchship books further up in the thread, they were well written, and good reads. I was just put off by the price, and the ending, which was anticlimactic. (and they are already popular books on Amazon, so my opinion really doesn't matter to anyone but myself.)
I haven't really posted those thoughts on Amazon. They are for the exclusive use of members of the Moron Hoard who like science fiction.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 12:00 PM (m9X4Y)
374
If Ma Bell can be busted up, so can the Cable Monopoly.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:56 AM (2wRtc)
It's ESPN that needs to be busted up.
I remember when John McCain went on the 'a la carte' cable bandwagon. Made noise for a day. Never heard a word since.
ESPN is the problem. The cable companies need content providers. They don't dictate terms. ESPN is dictating the terms.
Posted by: Mortimer - disappointed at September 24, 2017 11:56 AM (2wRtc)
It's ESPN that needs to be busted up.
I remember when John McCain went on the 'a la carte' cable bandwagon. Made noise for a day. Never heard a word since.
ESPN is the problem. The cable companies need content providers. They don't dictate terms. ESPN is dictating the terms.
Posted by: Slippery Slope Salesman at September 24, 2017 12:01 PM (EgwCt)
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RE: Pius
Did perfectly OK, imo.
Europe in the '30s was like 6-7 guys locked in a cage with a manearing tiger: "This is terrible! Do something!" "This is terrible! YOU do something!"
It's easy for us to criticize. We weren't locked in that cage.
Did perfectly OK, imo.
Europe in the '30s was like 6-7 guys locked in a cage with a manearing tiger: "This is terrible! Do something!" "This is terrible! YOU do something!"
It's easy for us to criticize. We weren't locked in that cage.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:01 PM (v6Osy)
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The league hierarchy are all SJW themselves. By the way, the NFL is a
501 C tax exempt organization. It's organized as a non profit. If it
continues to move down the road of political advocacy, then it's 501
status should be revoked.
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Agree completely that the non-profit status should be revoked. I don't even know how that is possible.
RE: the NFL, there's one easy solution.
Turn it off.
Do not buy licensed merch.
Do not patronize their advertisers.
The league hierarchy are all SJW themselves. By the way, the NFL is a
501 C tax exempt organization. It's organized as a non profit. If it
continues to move down the road of political advocacy, then it's 501
status should be revoked.
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Agree completely that the non-profit status should be revoked. I don't even know how that is possible.
RE: the NFL, there's one easy solution.
Turn it off.
Do not buy licensed merch.
Do not patronize their advertisers.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 12:01 PM (aT+Bx)
Posted by: garrett at September 24, 2017 12:01 PM (7hB0y)
378
Actually in ace's piece he actually did hint at how to exploit the left, and its what is going on. He did so by noting how the left used to be and what made them effective, and that shows what we could do.
Be charming, winsome, funny, and interesting, while on occasion drop a note about how craazy the left has gotten. Just once in a while mention it, not harping on it. Remind people what is going on and how they act. The excesses, the ridiculous behavior, the betrayal of all they claim to stand for, the lack of decency, the opposition to things Americans basically hold dear such as freedom of speech and due process.
That's what they were so effective at before, but once they felt they were on top and could not lose, they went berserk and have gotten crazier every year in a spiral of insanity.
Be charming, winsome, funny, and interesting, while on occasion drop a note about how craazy the left has gotten. Just once in a while mention it, not harping on it. Remind people what is going on and how they act. The excesses, the ridiculous behavior, the betrayal of all they claim to stand for, the lack of decency, the opposition to things Americans basically hold dear such as freedom of speech and due process.
That's what they were so effective at before, but once they felt they were on top and could not lose, they went berserk and have gotten crazier every year in a spiral of insanity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:02 PM (39g3+)
379
BTW... I've read the Steelers will not be on the field for the national anthem, and instead will be in the locker room.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 12:03 PM (aT+Bx)
380
I've long thought that a used book store is a great place to meet someone special, but the problem is that when I go to used book stores, there's rarely very many people there, and never anyone I'd be attracted to. I don't mean "they aren't hawt enough hurr hurr" I mean "they're all dudes or if women, far older/younger than I"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:04 PM (39g3+)
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318 . And also those nonparticipants to whom this is an important issue. There's tons of sports fans who hate politics but respect the flag.
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 12:04 PM (7l5V0)
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379 BTW... I've read the Steelers will not be on the field for the national anthem, and instead will be in the locker room.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 12:03 PM (aT+Bx)
Yeah guys...that'll make it all better.
Posted by: shibumi at September 24, 2017 12:03 PM (aT+Bx)
Yeah guys...that'll make it all better.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 12:04 PM (Enq6K)
383
I support Trump and I barely watch the NFL these days anyway, but there's a part of me that wishes he didn't pick this fight. The Kappernick thing was dying down as an issue until he brought it up in Alabama. why did he do this? Now even baseball is getting into the act.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:05 PM (7uYFy)
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If Ma Bell can be broken up
If the ICC can be shut down
If the Air Traffic Controllers can be fired and the union de-authorized
Then the cable monopolies can be broken up also.
It just takes someone with the willpower to force the issue. with some help from his friends. assuming he has any friends.
If the ICC can be shut down
If the Air Traffic Controllers can be fired and the union de-authorized
Then the cable monopolies can be broken up also.
It just takes someone with the willpower to force the issue. with some help from his friends. assuming he has any friends.
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at September 24, 2017 12:05 PM (m9X4Y)
385
Be interesting to see if any of the Caucasian players dissent from the dissent. I think white players are still appx 30-35% of NFL players.
Thank God for BYU, eh?
Thank God for BYU, eh?
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:06 PM (v6Osy)
386
The marxists have hated football in general and the NFL in particular for decades. They've just finally found a way to kill it by using its own dumbass, self-entitled players.
Posted by: Country Singer
________
Yes, yes and yes.
Posted by: Country Singer
________
Yes, yes and yes.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 12:07 PM (zkGZ8)
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380 . How young is too young? I heard young women are seeking mature men these days.
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 12:07 PM (7l5V0)
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I don't mean "they aren't hawt enough hurr hurr" I mean "they're all dudes or if women, far older/younger than I" Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:04 PM (39g3+)
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But you forget the expansion of social circles. You have no idea who they are related to or who they know. Just do your own thing without the requirement that you 'meet someone' to play the romantic meet cute nonsense.
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But you forget the expansion of social circles. You have no idea who they are related to or who they know. Just do your own thing without the requirement that you 'meet someone' to play the romantic meet cute nonsense.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 12:08 PM (MIKMs)
389
We'll have to wait to find out.
I guess I view everything through the prism of disastrous historical decisions.
I don't think history teaches ANY lessons per se, NONE.
But, it does kind of suggest that a little caution is a good thing, I think.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:53 AM (v6Osy)
Their ratings are already down and they were down last year. I believe the caution to be exercised is in their court.
This will not end well for the league.
I guess I view everything through the prism of disastrous historical decisions.
I don't think history teaches ANY lessons per se, NONE.
But, it does kind of suggest that a little caution is a good thing, I think.
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 11:53 AM (v6Osy)
Their ratings are already down and they were down last year. I believe the caution to be exercised is in their court.
This will not end well for the league.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 12:08 PM (Enq6K)
390
"By the way, the NFL is a 501 C tax exempt organization. It's organized as a non profit."
The individual teams are tax-paying companies. The league office used to not be a corporate entity at all -- just a bunch on contracts -- and so it didn't pay separate taxes. IIRC, this was recently changed out of shaming. Added taxes are not significant.
Real scandal is how franchises rape municipalities.
The individual teams are tax-paying companies. The league office used to not be a corporate entity at all -- just a bunch on contracts -- and so it didn't pay separate taxes. IIRC, this was recently changed out of shaming. Added taxes are not significant.
Real scandal is how franchises rape municipalities.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 12:10 PM (cAXIk)
391
Someone above mentioned that the NFL might just drop the national anthem. I doubt they'll go that far.
But what if they direct or demand (can they?) that the networks just don't SHOW the anthem --and any of the antics--on television?
But what if they direct or demand (can they?) that the networks just don't SHOW the anthem --and any of the antics--on television?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:10 PM (7uYFy)
392
The NFL should read The Goose Who Laid the Golden Egg this week.
But I wonder what Hillz's take on that story would be.
But I wonder what Hillz's take on that story would be.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 12:10 PM (Nwg0u)
393
Over the last 10 years or so, my entertainment choices have shifted away from sports and TV and toward electronic music. Over this time, I've not only come to appreciate what they put into their craft but I've also learned how hard many of these guys work.
It dawned on me that a memoir by an electronic music producer might be a good read, but I can't find any. This doesn't really surprise me.
Does anyone know if such a book exists?
It dawned on me that a memoir by an electronic music producer might be a good read, but I can't find any. This doesn't really surprise me.
Does anyone know if such a book exists?
Posted by: FireHorse at September 24, 2017 12:12 PM (zkGZ8)
394
Who is this Shad Khan person who owns the Jaguars who took a knee with his players in London??
When did a Muzzie buy an NFL team?
When did a Muzzie buy an NFL team?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:12 PM (7uYFy)
395
IIRC it was Pius himself who finally managed to end the stalemate with the Italian government over the fate of the Holy See. Since the 1870s the Italian government had been trying to put the Vatican state on a yearly stipend over the lands they had seized from the Holy See. Since the Vatican never approved it, for decades the question of whether the Vatican was a separate nation was in doubt which made being a priest a dicey thing.
So a lump sum compensation deal was cut, but now it is the Fascist government of Mussolini. Which leaves the Vatican a recognized state surrounded by a country that does not like it.
Now get to World War II itself. Now the Vatican is also surrounded by Germans.
So the analogy of being trapped in a cage surrounded by lions does apply. How much and how many good deeds can you, the Vatican, get away with before one of the lions eats you.
So a lump sum compensation deal was cut, but now it is the Fascist government of Mussolini. Which leaves the Vatican a recognized state surrounded by a country that does not like it.
Now get to World War II itself. Now the Vatican is also surrounded by Germans.
So the analogy of being trapped in a cage surrounded by lions does apply. How much and how many good deeds can you, the Vatican, get away with before one of the lions eats you.
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 12:12 PM (Ktewm)
396
Someone above mentioned that the NFL might just drop the national anthem.
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And replace it with The Internationale.
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And replace it with The Internationale.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 12:12 PM (Nwg0u)
397
But what if they direct or demand (can they?) that the networks just
don't SHOW the anthem --and any of the antics--on television?
They will only loose more of their audience. I think they will be returning money to advertisers before Thanksgiving.
don't SHOW the anthem --and any of the antics--on television?
They will only loose more of their audience. I think they will be returning money to advertisers before Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Infidel at September 24, 2017 12:12 PM (bfUpy)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 24, 2017 12:13 PM (IqV8l)
399
However... I can see the players lawyers arguing that their freedom of speech trumps any sort of NFL contract, and/or that the NFL cannot prove that their actions are damaging the league.
The willful misunderstanding of the first amendment shows the utter failure of our education system. As an employee, decorating my cubicle with "The JEF sucks maximum cock by choice" would have gotten me fired with cause. And if I hired an ambulance chaser to go "but but but First amendment" any judge would say "stop wasting my time, Junior." The only way this could hold any water would be that the Goodell Football League, with its unholy alliance with state entities to fund their playpens, is a quasi governmental outfit and has to extend the associated protections. I think that's a shitty argument but there are enough black robed tyrants pushing agendas to latch on to it.
The willful misunderstanding of the first amendment shows the utter failure of our education system. As an employee, decorating my cubicle with "The JEF sucks maximum cock by choice" would have gotten me fired with cause. And if I hired an ambulance chaser to go "but but but First amendment" any judge would say "stop wasting my time, Junior." The only way this could hold any water would be that the Goodell Football League, with its unholy alliance with state entities to fund their playpens, is a quasi governmental outfit and has to extend the associated protections. I think that's a shitty argument but there are enough black robed tyrants pushing agendas to latch on to it.
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 24, 2017 12:13 PM (y7DUB)
400
"the NFL might just drop the national anthem. I doubt they'll go that far."
Networks can't help themselves by not showing. Goodell can't control the players on this. It'll be a shitshow.
Only short-term answer it to drop the anthem. Which creates a bigger long-term problem.
It's fated.
Networks can't help themselves by not showing. Goodell can't control the players on this. It'll be a shitshow.
Only short-term answer it to drop the anthem. Which creates a bigger long-term problem.
It's fated.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 12:13 PM (cAXIk)
401
Who is this Shad Khan person who owns the Jaguars who took a knee with his players in London??
When did a Muzzie buy an NFL team?
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Doesn't he know it's pigskin?
When did a Muzzie buy an NFL team?
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Doesn't he know it's pigskin?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 12:14 PM (Nwg0u)
402
Nood
Posted by: mnw at September 24, 2017 12:15 PM (v6Osy)
403
>>>BTW... I've read the Steelers will not be on the field for the national anthem, and instead will be in the locker room<<<
This is so fucking lame. I think I need BEN to retardsplain this thing to me.
This is so fucking lame. I think I need BEN to retardsplain this thing to me.
Posted by: Fritz at September 24, 2017 12:15 PM (z74gh)
404
NFL players have a beef, but it's not about the Anthem.
Most of these guys have beaten incredible odds to get to the NFL only to then have the reality hit that for most of them it'll be a brutish four years of Gladitorial Combat and then it's over.
Compare being in the Show of the MBL. Higher pay, longer careers. And they have the time and money to party in every city on the road.
Most of these guys have beaten incredible odds to get to the NFL only to then have the reality hit that for most of them it'll be a brutish four years of Gladitorial Combat and then it's over.
Compare being in the Show of the MBL. Higher pay, longer careers. And they have the time and money to party in every city on the road.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (cAXIk)
405
I think the NFL could totally redeem itself by having Bob Costas lecture all viewers on the wonders of gun control during every football game broadcast for the rest of the season....
Nothing gets the average blue collar sports fan more juiced than talking politics when they're trying to relax and forget about things.
Lets make this happen.
I think the NFL could totally redeem itself by having Bob Costas lecture all viewers on the wonders of gun control during every football game broadcast for the rest of the season....
Nothing gets the average blue collar sports fan more juiced than talking politics when they're trying to relax and forget about things.
Lets make this happen.
Posted by: Roger Goodell spitballing with Joy Behar at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (tDTdL)
406
397- Rush said NFL already had to return 200MM to advertisers
Posted by: kallisto at September 24, 2017 12:19 PM (7l5V0)
407
I've also noticed that most bookstore customers are very disinterested in conversation, or even being noticed as they are focused on trying to find books and reading them without being bothered.
Compare being in the Show of the MLB. Higher pay, longer careers. And they have the time and money to party in every city on the road.[/i
Yeah I get that you can love football more and want to play it, but baseball is so much easier on the body, and pays better, and gives a longer career on average (by several years) and a star can play for several times as long as an NFL player.
Compare being in the Show of the MLB. Higher pay, longer careers. And they have the time and money to party in every city on the road.[/i
Yeah I get that you can love football more and want to play it, but baseball is so much easier on the body, and pays better, and gives a longer career on average (by several years) and a star can play for several times as long as an NFL player.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+)
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (Ktewm)
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@406 Has Limbaugh thanked the cabal yet, that kept him from becoming and owner and having to deal with a piece o' this? Because, he dodged a bullet.
Posted by: Stringer Davis at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (H5rtT)
410
It's not a free speech issue when it's the NFL's venue.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 24, 2017 12:25 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: RioBravo at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (giT7q)
412
One idiotic jackass in Baseball took a knee, on the Oakland A's. However, I suspect he'll be riding the pine the rest of his natural life for doing it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:27 PM (39g3+)
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Compare being in the Show of the MLB. Higher pay, longer careers. And they have the time and money to party in every city on the road.[/i
Yeah I get that you can love football more and want to play it, but baseball is so much easier on the body, and pays better, and gives a longer career on average (by several years) and a star can play for several times as long as an NFL player.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+)
I read that under MLB rules, a kid who gets called up from Triple A is automatically vested in the pension system even if he only lasts a single at-bat or throws a single pitch in The Big Show before going back down to the minors.....
Yeah I get that you can love football more and want to play it, but baseball is so much easier on the body, and pays better, and gives a longer career on average (by several years) and a star can play for several times as long as an NFL player.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+)
I read that under MLB rules, a kid who gets called up from Triple A is automatically vested in the pension system even if he only lasts a single at-bat or throws a single pitch in The Big Show before going back down to the minors.....
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:28 PM (7uYFy)
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Rio Bravo that's like telling me that people are gouging their eyes out at the optometrist. That is simply unspeakable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:29 PM (39g3+)
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That being said, Goodell is seriously considering
the "Activism Month" promotion
You want to be a true activiist, stand for the flag.
the "Activism Month" promotion
You want to be a true activiist, stand for the flag.
Posted by: t-bird at September 24, 2017 12:30 PM (pszv/)
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Exactly: be bold, be a rebel, be a conservative.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:31 PM (39g3+)
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I don't know why the national anthem is played before the start of sporting events, and I would not care if any league or association were to discontinue to do so. When it is played, it should not be disrespected or ignored in any way.
Posted by: RioBravo at September 24, 2017 12:32 PM (giT7q)
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417 Tradition started during WW2.
Posted by: steevy at September 24, 2017 12:33 PM (rmVvL)
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400 "the NFL might just drop the national anthem. I doubt they'll go that far."
Networks can't help themselves by not showing. Goodell can't control the players on this. It'll be a shitshow.
Only short-term answer it to drop the anthem. Which creates a bigger long-term problem.
It's fated.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 12:13 PM (cAXIk)
Why couldn't the national anthem be dropped? Serious question. If the NFL was a multi-national sport, like the NHL and MLB, I suppose they could try using more than one national anthem.
Or they could confuse the hell out of the athletes by playing the Internationale, which seems to be exactly what they would endorse. (Just kidding btw.)
Networks can't help themselves by not showing. Goodell can't control the players on this. It'll be a shitshow.
Only short-term answer it to drop the anthem. Which creates a bigger long-term problem.
It's fated.
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 24, 2017 12:13 PM (cAXIk)
Why couldn't the national anthem be dropped? Serious question. If the NFL was a multi-national sport, like the NHL and MLB, I suppose they could try using more than one national anthem.
Or they could confuse the hell out of the athletes by playing the Internationale, which seems to be exactly what they would endorse. (Just kidding btw.)
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 12:34 PM (nBr1j)
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I have season courtside tickets right next to the visitors bench. If any of those fuckers kneel they'll get a verbal ass whoopin' from me and my husband, FWIW. May have to rethink those tickets too.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (sNESL)
You're in San Antonio, right? Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if a few of the Spurs join in the nonsense but it would be a heartbreaker if Kawhi is one of them. He seems like such a decent kid in an industry filled with asses.
Posted by: stace at September 24, 2017 10:29 AM (sNESL)
You're in San Antonio, right? Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if a few of the Spurs join in the nonsense but it would be a heartbreaker if Kawhi is one of them. He seems like such a decent kid in an industry filled with asses.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 24, 2017 12:35 PM (7oUUT)
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405
I think the NFL could totally redeem itself by having Bob Costas lecture all viewers on the wonders of gun control during every football game broadcast for the rest of the season....
Nothing gets the average blue collar sports fan more juiced than talking politics when they're trying to relax and forget about things.
Lets make this happen.
Posted by: Roger Goodell spitballing with Joy Behar at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (tDTdL)
Hows about kneeling on Bob Costas's face?
I think the NFL could totally redeem itself by having Bob Costas lecture all viewers on the wonders of gun control during every football game broadcast for the rest of the season....
Nothing gets the average blue collar sports fan more juiced than talking politics when they're trying to relax and forget about things.
Lets make this happen.
Posted by: Roger Goodell spitballing with Joy Behar at September 24, 2017 12:17 PM (tDTdL)
Hows about kneeling on Bob Costas's face?
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 12:35 PM (nBr1j)
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Yeah I don't care if the anthem is played. I didn't mind the God Bless America thing in the 7th inning for 2001, but its kind of worn out its welcome now. We can't out of one side or our mouths cry for God to bless us and out of the other call for all that our culture demands and keeps pushing for. God does not bless apostasy, idol worship, corruption, sin, and outright rebellion against Him.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:35 PM (39g3+)
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I think its fair to say I'm indifferent to the national anthem during the regular.
But, when it comes to the NHL, particularly in playoff, there's something about the tension building during the anthem, or anthems, with the home crowd exploding into noise as the music fades away.
It adds to the atmosphere. That may be specific to the sports played in arenas.
But, when it comes to the NHL, particularly in playoff, there's something about the tension building during the anthem, or anthems, with the home crowd exploding into noise as the music fades away.
It adds to the atmosphere. That may be specific to the sports played in arenas.
Posted by: Northerlurker, Still Lurking After All These Years. at September 24, 2017 12:39 PM (nBr1j)
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NFL bashing has moved to CBD's new thread.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at September 24, 2017 12:39 PM (mpXpK)
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Yeah I get that you can love football more and want to play it, but baseball is so much easier on the body, and pays better, and gives a longer career on average (by several years) and a star can play for several times as long as an NFL player.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+)
I'm thinking that the differences in attitude between mlb and nfl players comes from the fact that nfl players go directly from stardom on campus to the nfl, whereas a college baseball player who has been drafted by an mlb team might never make it to the Show even if he's a top prospect.
(And even when they are college stars - well, there is a difference between being a college football star and a baseball one. Who gets more attention at Notre Dame, the QB or a third baseman?)
Baseball players have the grind of making their way up the minor league ladder. Rookie ball players are often placed with baseball loving families who let them use a room during the season, because the players don't make enough to rent an apartment. Some work at regular jobs in the offseason to supplement their earnings. The closer John Axford used to sell cell phones during the offseason. A pitcher on the Brewers roster was offered a job as a grocery store manager and turned it down to chase his dream.
How many nlf or mba players have ever worked in a grocery store or sold cell phones or driven a taxi to pay bills?
Obviously there are some big mlb stars who cycle through the minors rapidly, like Trout and Harper. But they are exceptionally gifted.
I'm thinking going from star high school football player to star college player right to the nfl distorts the mindset of some football players - particularly those from inner city backgrounds. They've been poor and then they are rich, but in both cases, their exposure to plain old middle class experience is very limited.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 12:23 PM (39g3+)
I'm thinking that the differences in attitude between mlb and nfl players comes from the fact that nfl players go directly from stardom on campus to the nfl, whereas a college baseball player who has been drafted by an mlb team might never make it to the Show even if he's a top prospect.
(And even when they are college stars - well, there is a difference between being a college football star and a baseball one. Who gets more attention at Notre Dame, the QB or a third baseman?)
Baseball players have the grind of making their way up the minor league ladder. Rookie ball players are often placed with baseball loving families who let them use a room during the season, because the players don't make enough to rent an apartment. Some work at regular jobs in the offseason to supplement their earnings. The closer John Axford used to sell cell phones during the offseason. A pitcher on the Brewers roster was offered a job as a grocery store manager and turned it down to chase his dream.
How many nlf or mba players have ever worked in a grocery store or sold cell phones or driven a taxi to pay bills?
Obviously there are some big mlb stars who cycle through the minors rapidly, like Trout and Harper. But they are exceptionally gifted.
I'm thinking going from star high school football player to star college player right to the nfl distorts the mindset of some football players - particularly those from inner city backgrounds. They've been poor and then they are rich, but in both cases, their exposure to plain old middle class experience is very limited.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V sez: helluva walkoff win,Crew! at September 24, 2017 12:44 PM (P8951)
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Added to my to-read list, because I don't know
nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that
war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for
either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the
conflict.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:36 AM (26lkV)
I was going to say that it was much more nuanced than that, but other posters have said that much more clearly and logically than I could.
The Spanish Civil war was supposed to be where Germany and Italy tried out their resurgent millitaries and modern tactics, but it was really where the Soviet Union was field testing their political manipulation and revolutionary tactics.
Added to my to-read list, because I don't know
nearly enough about that portion of history. I've always thought of that
war as something like NAZIs v. antifa- sane people aren't rooting for
either side. But I'd like to know more about what went into the
conflict.
Posted by: right wing yankee at September 24, 2017 09:36 AM (26lkV)
I was going to say that it was much more nuanced than that, but other posters have said that much more clearly and logically than I could.
The Spanish Civil war was supposed to be where Germany and Italy tried out their resurgent millitaries and modern tactics, but it was really where the Soviet Union was field testing their political manipulation and revolutionary tactics.
Posted by: Kindltot at September 24, 2017 12:48 PM (Gv+zt)
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I'm teaching my students the art of conversation, from "Martine's Hand-book of Etiquette, and Guide to True Politeness." Get a load of this passage:
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La Bruyère says, "The great charm of conversation consists less in the display of one's own wit and intelligence, than in the power to draw forth the resources of others; he who leaves you after a long conversation, pleased with himself and the part he has taken in the discourse, will be your warmest admirer. Men do not care to admire you, they wish you to be pleased with them; they do not seek for instruction or even amusement from your discourse, but they do wish you to be made acquainted with their talents and powers of conversation; and the true man of genius will delicately make all who come in contact with him feel the exquisite satisfaction of knowing that they have appeared to advantage."
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That is one of the loveliest ideas I've come across, and an invitation to converse with one another in a way that lifts the other up. I'm starting to see the fruits of this seed of an idea, particularly in the upper-form students, who are mature enough to just start to see beyond themselves a bit. Link is below (if Pixy allows it). Also available on Amazon for Kindle.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36048/36048-h/36048-h.htm
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La Bruyère says, "The great charm of conversation consists less in the display of one's own wit and intelligence, than in the power to draw forth the resources of others; he who leaves you after a long conversation, pleased with himself and the part he has taken in the discourse, will be your warmest admirer. Men do not care to admire you, they wish you to be pleased with them; they do not seek for instruction or even amusement from your discourse, but they do wish you to be made acquainted with their talents and powers of conversation; and the true man of genius will delicately make all who come in contact with him feel the exquisite satisfaction of knowing that they have appeared to advantage."
_____________
That is one of the loveliest ideas I've come across, and an invitation to converse with one another in a way that lifts the other up. I'm starting to see the fruits of this seed of an idea, particularly in the upper-form students, who are mature enough to just start to see beyond themselves a bit. Link is below (if Pixy allows it). Also available on Amazon for Kindle.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36048/36048-h/36048-h.htm
Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (YPgXi)
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That's BruyEre, with an accent grave. No idea how to render that correctly on Ace's site.
Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 24, 2017 12:52 PM (YPgXi)
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I am currently reading "Deal with the Devil" by 'ette J. Gunnar Grey and am enjoying it.
Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 24, 2017 12:57 PM (THS4q)
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Thank you for "vauntparler." That's Restaurant Quality, as Slapweasel would say.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 24, 2017 12:59 PM (Id9+8)
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That is one of the loveliest ideas I've come across,
and an invitation to converse with one another in a way that lifts the
other up. I'm starting to see the fruits of this seed of an idea,
particularly in the upper-form students, who are mature enough to just
start to see beyond themselves a bit. Link is below (if Pixy allows it).
Also available on Amazon for Kindle.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36048/36048-h/36048-h.htm Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (YPgXi)
=====
Yes, it is lovely. I think that used to be called courtesy, but I'm old. Good on you for attempting to show an almost lost art to younger people. Wonderful.
and an invitation to converse with one another in a way that lifts the
other up. I'm starting to see the fruits of this seed of an idea,
particularly in the upper-form students, who are mature enough to just
start to see beyond themselves a bit. Link is below (if Pixy allows it).
Also available on Amazon for Kindle.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/36048/36048-h/36048-h.htm Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 24, 2017 12:51 PM (YPgXi)
=====
Yes, it is lovely. I think that used to be called courtesy, but I'm old. Good on you for attempting to show an almost lost art to younger people. Wonderful.
Posted by: mustbequantum at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (MIKMs)
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Posted by: Smallish Bees at September 24, 2017 12:52 PM (YPgXi)
Yeah, I have the Cardboard Membership as well. We'll simply have to press our noses against the glass, and behold with longing those bathing in the warmth of special characters.
Yeah, I have the Cardboard Membership as well. We'll simply have to press our noses against the glass, and behold with longing those bathing in the warmth of special characters.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 24, 2017 01:04 PM (Id9+8)
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Sen. Ted Cruz said today that he doesn't support the latest Obamacare repeal plan drafted by Sens. Bill Cassidy and Lindsey Graham and suggested that the proposal also lacks the vote of Sen. Mike Lee.
The Texas Republican said at the Texas Tribune festival in Austin that he and Lee had offered amendments to the Graham-Cassidy proposal that would go further to bring down Obamacare premiums but that the changes weren't included in the latest draft of the bill.
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Ehhh. It was dead anyway.
The Texas Republican said at the Texas Tribune festival in Austin that he and Lee had offered amendments to the Graham-Cassidy proposal that would go further to bring down Obamacare premiums but that the changes weren't included in the latest draft of the bill.
-
Ehhh. It was dead anyway.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Doppelganger To the Stars! at September 24, 2017 01:25 PM (Nwg0u)
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Need some help here.
In the eighties I read a great fiction novel taking place in South Africa about civil war that starts with an assasination attempt on a train that the security services were aware of but allowed anyway, killing the president. Any takers?
In the eighties I read a great fiction novel taking place in South Africa about civil war that starts with an assasination attempt on a train that the security services were aware of but allowed anyway, killing the president. Any takers?
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (h7sWp)
435
When did a Muzzie buy an NFL team?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:12 PM (7uYFy)
Maybe about the same time Prince Alaweed bought a substantial piece of Faux News?
Posted by: JoeF. at September 24, 2017 12:12 PM (7uYFy)
Maybe about the same time Prince Alaweed bought a substantial piece of Faux News?
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 24, 2017 01:27 PM (gwPgz)
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434 Need some help here.
In the eighties I read a great fiction novel taking place in South Africa about civil war that starts with an assasination attempt on a train that the security services were aware of but allowed anyway, killing the president. Any takers?
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (h7sWp)
'Vortex' is what I found while doing a search. Although it's listed as 1991.
In the eighties I read a great fiction novel taking place in South Africa about civil war that starts with an assasination attempt on a train that the security services were aware of but allowed anyway, killing the president. Any takers?
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 24, 2017 01:26 PM (h7sWp)
'Vortex' is what I found while doing a search. Although it's listed as 1991.
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 01:38 PM (Enq6K)
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225 Greetings, O Book Thread!
It's a real kick, seeing your (wife's) book get a mention on the bookthread. I've found some pretty good reading through the thread, and hopefully readers will enjoy this series.
I think the hardest thing is getting noticed once the book has been set free. And clearly Ace has good taste. I just finished reading A Place Outside the Wild which I got from here as well. That was good, really good!
It's a real kick, seeing your (wife's) book get a mention on the bookthread. I've found some pretty good reading through the thread, and hopefully readers will enjoy this series.
I think the hardest thing is getting noticed once the book has been set free. And clearly Ace has good taste. I just finished reading A Place Outside the Wild which I got from here as well. That was good, really good!
Posted by: Asko at September 24, 2017 01:40 PM (Gj9jK)
438
Thanks, Tami. At my age, the decades just run together.
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 24, 2017 01:40 PM (h7sWp)
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438 Thanks, Tami. At my age, the decades just run together.
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 24, 2017 01:40 PM (h7sWp)
I hear ya. Was Vortext the right book?
Posted by: 1921 C DRUM at September 24, 2017 01:40 PM (h7sWp)
I hear ya. Was Vortext the right book?
Posted by: Tami at September 24, 2017 01:42 PM (Enq6K)
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... back from walking the doggles, and in tearing down the disintigrating back patio -- so more books for a tween-aged reader fascinated by WWII -
The Wooden Horse, by Eric Williams; fantastic story of an escape from a German prison camp, which really happened. Silence over Dunkerque, by John R. Tunis - two stray British soldiers escape from Dunkirk. When the Typhoon Blows, by Elizabeth Foreman Lewis; the wartime adventures of a Chinese boy fleeing the Japanese. All of them are available on Amazon, in various editions.
The Wooden Horse, by Eric Williams; fantastic story of an escape from a German prison camp, which really happened. Silence over Dunkerque, by John R. Tunis - two stray British soldiers escape from Dunkirk. When the Typhoon Blows, by Elizabeth Foreman Lewis; the wartime adventures of a Chinese boy fleeing the Japanese. All of them are available on Amazon, in various editions.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 24, 2017 01:46 PM (xnmPy)
Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (UnDQI)
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The great charm of conversation consists less in the display of one's own wit and intelligence, than in the power to draw forth the resources of others;
One of my fav things to do in my previous life was to go to dinner, and linger over the wine and good conversation. There are people who are good at it, and people who are not. When I think on it, even then it was the people older than me who were the best at it.
One of my fav things to do in my previous life was to go to dinner, and linger over the wine and good conversation. There are people who are good at it, and people who are not. When I think on it, even then it was the people older than me who were the best at it.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (exkr6)
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Just finished reading Lagercrantz's The Girl Who Took an Eye For an Eye. Lagercrantz took over the Lisbeth Salander series after Stieg Larsson's death and a massive legal battle between Larsson's birth family and his lady friend/live in. Lagercrantz's sequels are much shorter than Larsson's original trio. (No twenty plus page lesbian sex scenes.) Of course, the two main characters add not quite the same since there are two different authors. But the mysteries are interesting, and Salander's mental issues are still driving the story lines. Just tell yourself, "alternate universe", and it should work for you.
Currently working my way through David Wishart's Marcus Corvinus mystery series set in the early years of Imperial Rome. (Augustus is dead, Tiberius is First Citizen and Claudius and Nero are waiting in the wings.) Mysteries, so far, are very interesting and no anachronisms have reached out and bonked me on the head yet. Corvinus is a snarkier version of Lindsey Davis's Falco and a patrician like John Maddox Roberts's main character. Highly recommended.
Currently working my way through David Wishart's Marcus Corvinus mystery series set in the early years of Imperial Rome. (Augustus is dead, Tiberius is First Citizen and Claudius and Nero are waiting in the wings.) Mysteries, so far, are very interesting and no anachronisms have reached out and bonked me on the head yet. Corvinus is a snarkier version of Lindsey Davis's Falco and a patrician like John Maddox Roberts's main character. Highly recommended.
Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable Ca at September 24, 2017 01:49 PM (6e4Tq)
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Is Sanborn House coffee any good? I can't find it in the stores.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 24, 2017 01:52 PM (t5m5e)
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23 -- My sentiments exactly about Spell Check. Took me twice as long to write my first post as it should have because I had to keep going back and retyping the same thing two if not more times. Gack!!!
Posted by: Deplorable lady with a deplorable basket of deplorable Ca at September 24, 2017 01:53 PM (6e4Tq)
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My son read and enjoyed "Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance" when he was a senior in High School.
Enjoyable way to learn about WWII.
Enjoyable way to learn about WWII.
Posted by: JAS at September 24, 2017 02:00 PM (UnDQI)
447
One of my fav things to do in my previous life was
to go to dinner, and linger over the wine and good conversation. There
are people who are good at it, and people who are not. When I think on
it, even then it was the people older than me who were the best at it.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (exkr6)
Age can bring wisdom and the ability to hold one's interest.
Alas, youth and beauty will almost always win out. What are ya gonna do?
to go to dinner, and linger over the wine and good conversation. There
are people who are good at it, and people who are not. When I think on
it, even then it was the people older than me who were the best at it.
Posted by: Pandora's Box aka gumdrop gorilla at September 24, 2017 01:47 PM (exkr6)
Age can bring wisdom and the ability to hold one's interest.
Alas, youth and beauty will almost always win out. What are ya gonna do?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 24, 2017 02:53 PM (Id9+8)
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"Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any recommendations for specific books to listen to?"
I am listening to Robert Caro's biography of Lyndon Johnson. It is about 80 hours and I listen while commuting from Tucson to Phoenix twice a week, a 4 hour round trip. My wife heard some of it and wanted to start again at the beginning. We drove to Orange County last month and she went along and we listened again. I also listened to a Great Course on the French Revolution which was 52 1 hour classes.
I am listening to Robert Caro's biography of Lyndon Johnson. It is about 80 hours and I listen while commuting from Tucson to Phoenix twice a week, a 4 hour round trip. My wife heard some of it and wanted to start again at the beginning. We drove to Orange County last month and she went along and we listened again. I also listened to a Great Course on the French Revolution which was 52 1 hour classes.
Posted by: Mike K at September 24, 2017 03:03 PM (s170V)
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"Does anyone use Audible to listen to books? I'm curious about it, but
don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any
recommendations for specific books to listen to?"
I do, but it requires a specific kind of book for me. I find lighter fiction, history, or pop pych to be perfect. Books with too many numbers, or great literature to be savored don't make good choices.
don't know if I can really focus on an audio version. Any
recommendations for specific books to listen to?"
I do, but it requires a specific kind of book for me. I find lighter fiction, history, or pop pych to be perfect. Books with too many numbers, or great literature to be savored don't make good choices.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 24, 2017 03:59 PM (V8zw+)
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I finished reading _The Fall of the Ottoman Empire_ by Rogan. A bit dry, but I learned some interesting things about WWI, which I know very little about.
Now reading _A Higher Call_ by Adam Makos. I am enjoying it. I would call it lighter biography. It follows a German WWII pilot, and a relationship with an American pilot whom he meets in a combat situation. I haven't finished the book yet.
Now reading _A Higher Call_ by Adam Makos. I am enjoying it. I would call it lighter biography. It follows a German WWII pilot, and a relationship with an American pilot whom he meets in a combat situation. I haven't finished the book yet.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 24, 2017 04:05 PM (V8zw+)
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OregonMuse is the boss of the thread, but here's my two cents. I would like a separate thread for the current political/outrage of the moment comments. I'm trying to boycott the NFL and probably 65% of this one was about the NFL.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 24, 2017 06:37 PM (V8zw+)
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Yeah, I like to read through the thread throughout the day but when 90% of it is offtopic I give up, try again next week.
Posted by: waelse1 at September 24, 2017 06:49 PM (103ey)
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Regarding bad reviews - a friend wrote and self-published one of the worst books I've ever read. She cried for three days when she got one one-star review after getting several friends to post five-star reviews. She did her damnedest to get the bad review removed from Amazon (she's not Hillary, so she didn't succeed) and harassed the guy on Facebook. She leaned on me to write a good review, and I wouldn't do it, but neither did I write a bad one. I just decided to stay out of it. I didn't buy the sequels, either.
Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at September 24, 2017 06:52 PM (THS4q)
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Meh, I never worry about reviews. It kind of makes me laugh if I get like a 2-star review; I know my books are better than that. Its just someone who doesn't like me somehow.
The only one that annoyed me was someone who gave Old Habits a 3-star review, then later downgraded it for no reason. Th star rating doesn't match the review text at all.
5-star reviews kind of annoy me though. I can write 3 or 4 star books, maybe but I'm not Tolstoy or Robert Louis Stevenson. 5 stars should be reserved for transcendent works of eternal literature, books that change lives and are beloved by generations of people.
The only one that annoyed me was someone who gave Old Habits a 3-star review, then later downgraded it for no reason. Th star rating doesn't match the review text at all.
5-star reviews kind of annoy me though. I can write 3 or 4 star books, maybe but I'm not Tolstoy or Robert Louis Stevenson. 5 stars should be reserved for transcendent works of eternal literature, books that change lives and are beloved by generations of people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 24, 2017 08:18 PM (39g3+)
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I agree about 5 stars, should be reserved for the narrow top of the curve.
Posted by: goodluckduck at September 24, 2017 09:32 PM (V8zw+)
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Paul Anka Haiku Contest Announcement
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AnkaPundit: Paul Anka Takes Over the Site for a Weekend (Continues through to Monday's postings)
George Bush Slices Don Rumsfeld Like an F*ckin' Hammer
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Democratic Forays into Erotica
New Shows On Gore's DNC/MTV Network
Nicknames for Potatoes, By People Who Really Hate Potatoes
Star Wars Euphemisms for Self-Abuse
Signs You're at an Iraqi "Wedding Party"
Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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