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Saturday Night "Club ONT" July 12, 2025 [The 3 Ds]

Welcome to Club ONT! A collaboration of your Sunday through Wednesday ONT Crew - The Disco, The Doggo, and The Dino. We have been expecting you - everyone breaks eventually. Pull up a chair and grab some peanuts and pretzels.

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Saturday Night Jokes and Other Funnies

A man walks into a bar, then goes to the bathroom. He comes out, goes to the bartender. He says, “You’ve got a great place, but my buddy was here last night, and he said you have golden urinals. Where are they?”

The bartender turns to the band and yells, “Frank, I’ve got a lead on the guy who ruined your sax!”

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One evening after the honeymoon, Bob was working on his Harley in the garage. His new wife was standing there by the bench watching him.

After a long period of silence she finally said, "Honey, I've just been thinking, now that we're married, maybe it's time you quit spending so much of your time out here in the garage. You probably should consider selling your Harley and all that welding equipment; they take up so much of your time. And that gun collection and fishing gear, they just take up so much space. And you know that boat is such an ongoing expense and you hardly use it. I also think you should lose all those stupid model airplanes and your home brewing equipment. And what's the use of that vintage hot rod sports car?"

Bob got a horrified look on his face.

She noticed and said, "Darling, what's wrong?”

He replied, "You were starting to sound like my ex-wife.”

"Ex-wife!?" she shouted, "YOU NEVER TOLD ME YOU WERE MARRIED BEFORE!”

Bob replied, "I wasn't..."

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Drink of the Night

Texas Ranch Water

Ingredients
3 oz. blanco tequila
1 1/2 oz. fresh lime juice
Seltzer (Topo Chico suggested), chilled
Ice
Fresh lime wedge for garnish

Directions
Add ice to glass
Add tequila and juice
Top with seltzer water
Add fresh lime wedge to garnish
Enjoy!

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Club ONT Requests

At the Club, the venom is on tap.

We can do pythons.

Danger Noodles. Floridians pay $25 (a bit more than in town) to participate in the annual python hunt. Let's hope the gators are busy patrolling Alligator Alcatraz.

For 10 glorious days (July 11-20 this year), registered participants can try to catch as many gigantic danger noodles as possible. The person who nabs the most snakes wins $10,000, which might cover your bug spray bill and therapy copay.

Dynamite. Which one of you did this? Definitely a Moron. Cannot quote the whole thing. Very worth the click and read.

"Sir, I pulled you over because I saw something shiny in your car. Did you have your phone in your hand and on?" an officer would ask another driver.
"Goodness no. I'm a law-abiding citizen and I know that's not legal. I was lighting up some unregulated explosives."
"I'm sorry, you did what now?"
"Yeah, I was trying to read this new book. It's something about driving dummies. Anyway, I thought I was lighting up a road flare to give me some light, but turns out that stuff I stole from the construction site was actually dynamite. And just between me you and the fencepost over there, FYI, I would totally avoid that bridge we just drove over if you go back the other way. Long fuse on that dynamite but it's definitely going to go off here in a second."

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Disco Doof's Mentor

Bro started dancing like he was 70 years younger. pic.twitter.com/mAN5Q6OieT
— Fight With Memes (@FightWithMemes) June 30, 2025

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Club ONT Rocks Your World

The Club ONT dance floor has made the earth wobble and speed up! Or there may be other explanations:

Over the past two centuries, humans have quietly nudged the very axis of our planet. As thousands of dams have been built across the world, Earth's poles have tilted by over 1 meter (3 feet). The movement of Earth's poles can be traced to two great waves of dam construction: first in North America and Europe during the 19th and early 20th centuries, and then across Asia and East Africa in the latter half of the 20th century.
It's all to do with mass distribution and the planet's moment of inertia. Earth will happily spin like a basketball twirling on a fingertip, but if mass is suddenly added to one region, the rotation starts to wobble.

Faster, faster!

On July 9, 2025, Earth spun a little faster than usual, enough to make the day about 1.3 to 1.6 milliseconds shorter than the standard 24 hours.
That may not sound like much, but it was the shortest day since modern records began. It's not a one-off either. Scientists expect two more short days this summer, on July 22 and Aug. 5, all thanks, in part, to the moon.
Earth doesn't rotate at a perfectly constant speed. While we define a day as 24 hours, in reality, the length of a day can vary slightly from one day to the next due to both internal and external forces acting on the planet.
Over long timescales, Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down, largely because of tidal friction from the moon. The moon's gravity pulls on Earth's oceans, creating tidal bulges that act like a brake. This adds about 2 milliseconds to the length of a day every century.
But over shorter timescales, days to months, Earth's spin can actually speed up and that's what happened on July 9, and will also happen on July 22 and Aug. 5.

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Everything is fake

AI-Generated Band Gets Over 1Million Spotify Listeners in Just Two Weeks

AI-generated Psych-rock band The Velvet Sundown didn’t exist two weeks ago, but today they boast over half a million listeners on Spotify and are getting to put out their third album.
The Velvet Sundown is either the hardest-working and most inspired rock group ever, or they are simply playing by different rules. The psych-rock band appeared out of nowhere two weeks ago, but managed to put out to albums and has already announced that the third will be released on Spotify soon. They already boast a respectable 500,000 monthly listeners on the popular music streaming platform and show no signs of slowing down. But the overnight success and record-breaking album release schedule drew attention to the band this week, with many accusing The Velvet Sundown of being an AI-generated gimmick. And, truth be told, all the signs point to that being the case.

Club ONT is 100% opposite of an AI experience. We prefer natural stupidity.

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Club ONT Music

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Top 10ish Comments of the Week. Or thereabout...

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Club ONT brought to you by: Country hospitality and fresh scents.

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— jeFFF 𝔅ℜownS†ar 𝔊/𝓪𝓬𝓬 (@cdotminus) June 29, 2025

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Club ONT disclaims responsibility for injuries sustained from polar-axis wobbles or abnormal earth-spinning speeds. If Club ONT patrons believe that the earth is spinning around them, just lay down and close your eyes. Eventually, the spinning will slow down, stop and your world will re-adjust. We've all been there. By the way, the fridge has been fully stocked with classic Mountain Dew. (None of that diet stuff here.) Help yourself.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 10:00 PM

Comments

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1 This could be the greatest ONT ever!

Well, it could be.

Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)

2 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 10:01 PM (cYBz/)

3 Skinny CAN o to hell! Ola Horde!

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 12, 2025 10:01 PM (hftn9)

4 Evening all!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (vcPNM)

5 Evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (+qU29)

6 Yay, another Saturday night!

Posted by: Final Arbiter ( sorry, no reality left) at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (1UudH)

7 This could be the greatest ONT ever!

Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)

It has as good a chance as any.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (0eaVi)

8 Bro started dancing like he was 70 years younger.

This worked well with the sound down and After Midnight playing.

Posted by: mindful webworker - let what all hang out, now? at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (+kBwA)

9 1 This could be the greatest ONT ever!

Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)

It could be. But we're gonna need some supplies and the girls need to take their socks off.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:06 PM (nyTxL)

10 I've read/heard the second joke before but that first one!

I've heard a lot of bar/piss jokes before but never that one.

Still laughing.

Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 10:06 PM (gKDq2)

11 For any Morons or 'Ettes unsure of their social skills, the TX MoMee - which this year, will be the *tenth* - includes dogs who are terribly deprived and never ever get petted, or played with, or given treats.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 10:06 PM (ULPxl)

12 Willowed:
Just got out of Superman.

4/5 stars.

No politics, super heroes being heroic.
A little cartoony and silly. There IS a super powered dog in it after all.
But not strictly for kids, there is at least one headshot in the movie and it is not played lightly.

Humor is hit and miss but it isn't as quippy as a Marvel movie.

There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.

Endorsed, if you like superheroes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (xcxpd)

13 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (uGaBv)

14 Polite reminder James Gunn jokes about pedophilia and rape on his Twitter.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (nyTxL)

15 Yay, Different Colored Eyes Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (lUFok)

16 Is everyone enjoying the heatwave ???

Summer is finally in full swing up here in WNY

Posted by: browndog with weed, whites and wine at July 12, 2025 10:09 PM (TTAGa)

17 This could be the greatest ONT ever!

Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh
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The history books will have an entry. I'll head to the storage room and find the karaoke machine.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:09 PM (LVaYG)

18 Thanks for the dandy Saturday Night ONT, Disco, Doggo and Dino!

Thanks for the snacks and Mountain Dew too...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (kB9dk)

19 Great live version of the better version of After Midnight.

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (i0F8b)

20 Saturday ONT! Yay.

Posted by: QED Texan at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (fveCG)

21 I saw on the Windows search bar somebody declared this day or month in favor of someone. Wasn't very memorable, so it could have been boobs, butts, or bratwurst. Nor puppies or platypuses, either. I would have remembered kittens, kids, or kisses.

So, a total waste of time.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (S/Y4j)

22
Over the past two centuries, humans have quietly nudged the very axis of our planet.

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omg. DON'T let the climatistas know about this. We'll all have to stand still, like for the Pledge of Allegiance all day.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (lCaJd)

23 Was only mid 80s about today, was outside reading all afternoon

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (+qU29)

24
And good evening!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (lCaJd)

25
Top photo is some place I'd love to hang for an evening!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (lCaJd)

26 I like the candle!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:11 PM (vcPNM)

27 21 I saw on the Windows search bar somebody declared this day or month in favor of someone. Wasn't very memorable, so it couldnt have been boobs, butts, or bratwurst. Nor puppies or platypuses, either. I would have remembered kittens, kids, or kisses.

So, a total waste of time.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (S/Y4j)

Fixed the autocucumber.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (S/Y4j)

28 TXMOME X

Posted by: Ben Had at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (HFcKg)

29 You know that skit in "Meaning of Life" where they harvest some dude's organs?
someone wrote a whole science fiction movie about that - Repo Men, in 2010. It didn't get good reviews but it's good so far (30 minutes in)

Posted by: gKWVE at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (gKWVE)

30 14 Polite reminder James Gunn jokes about pedophilia and rape on his Twitter.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (nyTxL)

Well not anymore but he did, yeah. Probably not a fan of me and my kind.

Not a lot of Hollywood types are moron. Hell, -quality several cast members on The Chosen are ashiests. The Chosen is still good though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (xcxpd)

31 Top photo is some place I'd love to hang for an evening!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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It is in CA, but a bit south of you.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (LVaYG)

32 Yay, Different Colored Eyes Day ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura

"Heterochromia Iridum Day" sounds cooler.

But in the other eye, it's harder to spell.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (DgGvY)

33
Had lunch today with the estimable Cybersmythe and his charming bride. Very enjoyable time with a smart and witty guy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)

34 Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.

Bongino status unclear.

Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)

35 1 This could be the greatest ONT ever!

Well, it could be.
Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)

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Of all the ONTs I've read, this is the latest.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 12, 2025 10:14 PM (OGOaV)

36 "Earth will happily spin like a basketball twirling on a fingertip, but if mass is suddenly added to one region, the rotation starts to wobble"

Huh, Hank Johnson might have been on to something....

Posted by: Sua Sponte at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (GTw+O)

37 I think Bongino overplayed his hand. But he can quit and go back to YouTube fortune.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (nyTxL)

38 Hadrian, now you can come meet the rest of us.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (HFcKg)

39 *spinning up some circus music 🎶🎶🎶*

Yay! Triple Ds! Howdy fellas!

Now....back to content😜

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM (L9kkv)

40 So, the collaboration continues, at least on the surface. Glad we can only see the glitz and glamour. The discord and jealousy behind the scenes should remain hidden, IMHO.

Posted by: Mayor of Realville at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (G5+As)

41 15 Yay, Different Colored Eyes Day ONT!
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (lUFok)

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Does one eye being bloodshot count?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (OGOaV)

42 >Just got out of Superman.

4/5 stars.
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wait
the brochure said this movie was a woke mess

Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (AOsQT)

43 There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.

Endorsed, if you like superheroes.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (xcxpd)

So... no Kzinti cat sex?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)

44 Andy Warhol drew a picture of a soupçon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (63Dwl)

45 Had lunch today with the estimable Cybersmythe and his charming bride. Very enjoyable time with a smart and witty guy.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)
* * * *
Awesome!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (kB9dk)

46 Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.

Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)

47
IERS, the International Earth Rotation and Reference System, is the one tasked with tracking the rotation and orientation of the earth down to quite amazing precision. This is critical for navigation and celestial positioning. The GPS system must know these very precisely in order to pinpoint a receiver's location on the rotating geoid.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (w6EFb)

48
Yay ONT!

Son, daughter-in-law , and our four grandchildren are driving back to Wyoming from S Illinois tonight. Sometimes they can drive straight through, Sometimes they have to stop for a night. It depends on the grandkids.

Old people worry rears it's ugly head, so I will read ya'll for entertainment.

Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (3ek7K)

49 Sad when ya make Comment of the Week, and have a bad sock on.... LOL

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (mP0Kj)

50 I can see why dam building might shift the moment of inertia of the Earth without significantly slowing the rate of rotation: mass was concentrated in various sites but not raised to any degree from the axis of rotation, assuming nearby sourcing of materials. Evidently the Earth’s spin rate went up ever so slightly!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (vcPNM)

51 Bill Nye knows how to cure the wobblies.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (63Dwl)

52 46 Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.
Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)

For those about to rock, we saloon you!

Wait..

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (nyTxL)

53 40 So, the collaboration continues, at least on the surface. Glad we can only see the glitz and glamour. The discord and jealousy behind the scenes should remain hidden, IMHO.
Posted by: Mayor of Realville
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It's all behind the paywall - with excellent lighting.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (LVaYG)

54 Mmmmm. Pain medication refilled. Time for Zzzzzzzs.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (2OLVu)

55 Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (3ek7K)

Hello S. Illinois neighbor. I hope your family has a safe drive home.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (sPQoU)

56 Formerly, number eight, but read the content. Eh, eight is nothing.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (n4GiU)

57 39 Yay! Triple Ds! Howdy fellas!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:15 PM
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Hello COMM!

Posted by: TRex - Dino is not AI at July 12, 2025 10:21 PM (cCn4/)

58 Nothing woke in the new Superman movie, and a very conservative message about the importance of assimilation.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (tgTrV)

59 Got to the hobby thread late, but I pick up pretty rocks occasionally. Sometimes a little rock just looks special, ya know?

youtu.be/NecRndRN7Go

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (rdVOm)

60 Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.

Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)

Make Bongino the Territorial Governor of California when the Dem crime family is rolled up for insurrection.

And Good Evening to the ONT Horde, and the Horde of Hosts!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (5djiY)

61 Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.

Missed that thread today. Somebody hit a power pole or something and knocked the juice offline for a good chunk of the afternoon.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:22 PM (lUFok)

62 Think I read that when everyone flushes during halftime of the Super Bowl, the Earth spins faster.

Posted by: Mr. Science at July 12, 2025 10:23 PM (G5+As)

63 I'm in Oregon, visiting relatives. Fortunately I'll be spending most of my stay in the Greater Idaho portion of the state.

The Internet wouldn't give me a straight answer on whether the high capacity mag ban is in effect yet. I have an Oregon CWL, and just to be safe, I made sure to swap my 12 round magazines for the 10 round versions.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 12, 2025 10:23 PM (kuWOS)

64 Feels like some paid spokespeople for Superman are afoot.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:23 PM (nyTxL)

65 Evenin’. All.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (77rzZ)

66 18 Thanks for the snacks and Mountain Dew too...

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM
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Free refills!

Posted by: TRex - Mt Dew for everyone! at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (cCn4/)

67
How did Superman come to have a dog
and how did the dog get its super powers

Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (AOsQT)

68 56 Formerly, number eight, but read the content. Eh, eight is nothing.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (n4GiU)

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On the contrary, my friend. Eight is Enough.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 12, 2025 10:24 PM (OGOaV)

69
Every day, IERS puts out their daily solution files, Bulletin A, I think they call it. The USNO mirrors that output here:
https://tinyurl.com/ywypes2a

The "finals2000A.daily" is the main one of interest. These files are in Fortran formatted I/O format, and the readme files there explain the column format.

Of interest to me there primarily is the daily DUT1 and LOD (length of day) values. The LOD is the excessive length of day, expressed in ms. Negative values means one complete mean solar day was faster. The past three days, 7/8 - 7/10 have been better than 1.3 ms faster than 24 hours (of atomic time).

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM (w6EFb)

70 The Wobblies as a political force, by and large, are long since spent!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM (vcPNM)

71 So... no Kzinti cat sex?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:16 PM (0eaVi)

No. You are thinking of Dean Ing.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 10:25 PM (D7oie)

72 Launch tonight

GO! - SpaceX - Falcon 9 - DROR-1 - SLC-40 - Cape Canaveral SFS
Launch Date: July 13, 2025
Launch Time: 01:04 a.m. EDT, 0504 UTC, 07:04 CEST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_2-Ai_36Cs

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:26 PM (sPQoU)

73 How did Superman come to have a dog
and how did the dog get its super powers
Posted by: Don Black

He lifted his leg on some kryptonite?

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:26 PM (DgGvY)

74 Bill Nye knows how to cure the wobblies.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (63Dwl)

I thought Pinkertons cured the Wobblies?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:26 PM (5djiY)

75 This is critical for navigation and celestial positioning. The GPS system must know these very precisely in order to pinpoint a receiver's location on the rotating geoid.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:18 PM (w6EFb)

Good Heavens, Man! What ever happened to LORAN?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (D7oie)

76 >>I can see why dam building might shift the moment of inertia of the Earth without significantly slowing the rate of rotation

Probably just me but I think the idea that man can change the actions of the universe with things like cow farts or dams is some crazy shit.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (viF8m)

77 There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.

"Man of Steel and Woman of Kleenex" if I recall correctly.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (kuWOS)

78 Superboy had a dog

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (+qU29)

79 >>> They already boast a respectable 500,000 monthly listeners on the popular music streaming platform and show no signs of slowing down.

And almost all of the 500,000 are bots.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (/lPRQ)

80 The Wobblies, think I saw them open for the Weebles in '76.

Posted by: Sua Sponte at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (GTw+O)

81 ban is in effect yet. I have an Oregon CWL, and just to be safe, I made sure to swap my 12 round magazines for the 10 round versions.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Nobody needs ten bullets to kill a dee-ah!

Posted by: Ex-Governor Cuomo at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (G5+As)

82 NYPost: Rock band with more than 1 million Spotify listeners reveals it’s entirely AI-generated — down to the musicians themselves

The ’60s-inspired rock-and-roll band, the Velvet Sundown, revealed on Saturday that nothing about it is real after fans of the up-and-coming artists noticed there were virtually no traces of any people associated with it online.

Its debut album, “Floating on Echoes,” was released on June 5 to mass appeal online.

The most popular song in the album, pro-peace folk rock song “Dust on the Wind,” clinched the No. 1 spot for Spotify’s daily “Viral 50” chart in Britain, Norway and Sweden between June 29 and July 1.

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 10:27 PM (GITLP)

83 The Niven in question is "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex." Any Superman fan who hasn't read this yet should run out and grab a copy. It's a scream. It's in his collection All the Myriad Ways, and I think it's been anthologized several times.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:29 PM (q3u5l)

84 Superboy had a dog who got his superpowers by being from Krypton, just like Superboy! I am going from my childhood reading of D.C. comics: I haven’t seen the new movie.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:29 PM (vcPNM)

85 Hey, Skip.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (77rzZ)

86 The floods in Texas and New Mexico, and other serious rainfall in N Am (including here in Oklahoma) no doubt had some microeffect on the planet's rotation.

Will be interesting to see how much effect there will be when the Three Gorges dam fails.

Imagine the world wobbling when the Mediterranean basin filled, or those giant floods in N America when the glaciers gave way.

Posted by: mindful webworker - bloosh at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (+kBwA)

87 Rooftop bar up top needs more tikis and customers.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (/lPRQ)

88
Read some Substack posts today. Very interesting. It's like most of them are high-functioning autistics. The same showy language used to express some very nutty things.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (HZi96)

89 The Velvet Sundown next album will be titled;

Everything is Fake and Gay!

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)

90
Will be interesting to see how much effect there will be when the Three Gorges dam fails.

________

Can't. China technology incredible!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (HZi96)

91 The Velvet Sundown next album will be titled;

Everything is Fake and Gay!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)

They opened for Milli Vanilli?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (5djiY)

92 Kill the Sneks!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)

93 Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.

Bongino status unclear.
Posted by: Don Black

Bongo Bounced.
86'd
Off the Menu

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (/lPRQ)

94 Bill Melugin@BillMelugin_
BREAKING: CBP commissioner reports that one of the illegal aliens apprehended by federal agents during the CA cannabis farm raid has prior convictions for kidnapping, attempted rape, and attempted child molestation. Same facility where unaccompanied migrant juvies were found.

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Spark of the divine, dude. Spark of the divine.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (L/fGl)

95 52 46 Good evening Horde. Sorry I'm late. I had been informed that there was only one way to rock, but the Hobby Thread this evening proved otherwise.
Posted by: TRex - potential rock hound at July 12, 2025 10:17 PM (cCn4/)

For those about to rock, we saloon you!

Wait..
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:20 PM (nyTxL)

Sorry it's taking so long for your drink. We're having trouble squeezing it out of the rock it comes in.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (S/Y4j)

96 Hollywood continues to ruin everything.

Krypto got breed-swapped.

Posted by: mindful webworker - arf arf and arooooo at July 12, 2025 10:34 PM (+kBwA)

97 I’m not a paid spokesman for Superman, just a fan of the character. I was adopted as an infant and my mom used the story of Superman to explain adoption to me, so I have a very sentimental attachment to the character. I hated the Snyder version of the character so I am just happy to have a new movie that I enjoyed. I think it actually hurts MAGA to frame the movie as woke because it has an immigration theme, as that makes it sound like MAGA hates immigrants period, rather than just wanting the border controlled and illegal criminal aliens removed.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (tgTrV)

98
Hi Miss Joy,

I hope you are doing as well as possible. I really enjoyed "reading " your Dad. He was such an interesting man and a fine man. He leaves a hole in ya'll and us here at Ace.

Daughter-in-law's parents live in Southern Illinois. Son and Daughter-in-law graduated from SIU. They got jobs in Wyoming and here we all are.

So glad to see you here. We care, but most of us aren't right in the head, lol. That makes this place interesting.

Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (3ek7K)

99 I don't think I'd want to go drinking in a rooftop bar. What if I got really drunk, and went to pee over the edge of the parapet, and lost my footing?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (5djiY)

100 Lanie Gardner is an attractive and talented young lady, but her video looks like a 1980s beer commercial, full of what I used to call the hysterically peppy people.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (Riz8t)

101 That dancin" old dude...

That was a MoMe participant wasn't it?
And yes. We'll see it over and over again in TX as the evening progresses....
Lookin' at you Rat...🤯...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (L9kkv)

102 Bondie needs to get moving

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (+qU29)

103
Looking it up, the LORAN system in it's final variant, LORAN-C was shut down in 2010.

They are working on something dubbed eLoran, which will be a ground based backup to the GPS system, I see. Surely they backup now, but I don't know what it is.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 10:36 PM (w6EFb)

104 Does the new Superman movie actually use the line "truth, justice, and the human way?" Or was that pre-release hype?

If it does, does it sound less gay in the movie than I think it would? Because I think it would sound really gay.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (DgGvY)

105 Our cat Salem is asleep on Dad's chair. He's never done that before.
My sister has to go back to work tomorrow. She's worried to leave me home alone, but it can't be helped.

Thank you again to all who have donated towards Dad's cremation.
[Link to Ciampino's fund: https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV]

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (sPQoU)

106 Kill the Sneks!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)

First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (5djiY)

107 Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.

Bongino status unclear.

I think Bongino sealed his fate when he gave Trump an ultimatum. You don't do that.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (Riz8t)

108 Thanks for the ONT!

I don't get the first joke. But hell, do I get the beer one.

My neighbour across the street came by when I was cleaning the car which became mine yesterday. She lost her husband recently. She offered me two beers but I politely declined. I accept that I may lose ampersand privileges.

I told her last week was booze and edibles week. Now I have too much to do to reclaim my life.

It's 10:30pm. I'm doing a load of laundry, cutting up a watermelon and may clean the fridge.

Everyone have a great night.

Damn, I turned down 2 free beers...

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)

109 The line about “truth, justice, and the human way” is not used or even hinted at in the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)

110
It is in CA, but a bit south of you.
Posted by: scampydog

=============

Found it! I'm going.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (lCaJd)

111 Over long timescales, Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down, largely because of tidal friction from the moon.

—

Not climate change?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (ImXfC)

112 The Velvet Sundown next album will be titled;

Everything is Fake and Gay!
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 10:31 PM (uGaBv)

You don't say.

Posted by: Milli Vanilli at July 12, 2025 10:39 PM (gKDq2)

113 Joyenz, it’s great to see you here.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (77rzZ)

114 Looking it up, the LORAN system in it's final variant, LORAN-C was shut down in 2010.

They are working on something dubbed eLoran, which will be a ground based backup to the GPS system, I see. Surely they backup now, but I don't know what it is.
Posted by: publius

It will fail, because there are not enough nerds involved.

No way you can take the next step from LORAN-C and call it eLoran, and not D-LORAN, if there are enough nerds. I mean, the whole system is about using precise time to travel.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (DgGvY)

115 My neighbour across the street came by when I was cleaning the car which became mine yesterday. She lost her husband recently. She offered me two beers but I politely declined. I accept that I may lose ampersand privileges.

I told her last week was booze and edibles week. Now I have too much to do to reclaim my life.

It's 10:30pm. I'm doing a load of laundry, cutting up a watermelon and may clean the fridge.

Everyone have a great night.

Damn, I turned down 2 free beers...

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (jvJvP)

Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (5djiY)

116 Here's what Trump had to say about the Epstein issue

https://tinyurl.com/49cs577v

Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (AOsQT)

117 How did Superman come to have a dog
and how did the dog get its super powers
Posted by: Don Black

In the comics, Supergirl had a super cat. And a super horse (who was actually a sentient alien woo hoo). And IIRC, there was even a super-monkey.

I have no recollection of how any of them got here or got powers. Probably exposed to fuchsia kryptonite.

Posted by: mindful webworker - guess what rainbow kryptonite did! at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (+kBwA)

118 Kill the Sneks!!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:33 PM (W/lyH)

First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:37 PM (5djiY)

Brilliant!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (W/lyH)

119 Bill Nye knows how to cure the wobblies.

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Bill Nye discovers the source of the devastating Texas flooding, and of course, it's fossil fuels

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So there!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:41 PM (L/fGl)

120 >>I don't think I'd want to go drinking in a rooftop bar. What if I got really drunk, and went to pee over the edge of the parapet, and lost my footing?

St Pete, Pass-A-Grille beach. The Hurricane.

I wouldn't lie to you.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (viF8m)

121 109 The line about “truth, justice, and the human way” is not used or even hinted at in the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)

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I heard it was "Truth, Justice and the Human Fund."

Posted by: G. Costanza at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (dDmld)

122 Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (3ek7K)

Dad used to work at SIU-C when we lived in M'boro. Glad we don't live in that county anymore. Carbondale makes it a Blue nightmare.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (sPQoU)

123 I think it actually hurts MAGA to frame the movie as woke because it has an immigration theme, as that makes it sound like MAGA hates immigrants period, rather than just wanting the border controlled and illegal criminal aliens removed.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (tgTrV)

Speaking only for myself and not MAGA…

It’s not that he’s an immigrant. It’s that the movie maker went out of his way to inject it into the discussion. And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:42 PM (ImXfC)

124 NOW I GET IT!

It hit me when I was brushing my teeth.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:43 PM (jvJvP)

125 JackStraw -

It’s only that we’re measuring time to great precision: with GPS an error of a few nanoseconds is enough to throw you off by a few feet since EM waves travel at the speed of light (EM waves - radio - is the same as light, just at a much slower frequency) so:

L= c Δt = (3.00 x 10^8 m/s)(1.00 x 10^-9 s)
= 0.300 m = 30.0 cm,

or about a foot. So a millisecond error is a million time greater! Sorry for the math in an ONT!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:43 PM (vcPNM)

126 Bill Nye discovers the source of the devastating Texas flooding, and of course, it's fossil fuels

--------

And TRUMP

But that goes without saying.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 10:43 PM (dDmld)

127 Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM

She's very nice.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)

128 Joyenz, it’s great to see you here.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM (77rzZ)

Thanks, I hope you're having a lovely evening.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (sPQoU)

129
Think I read that when everyone flushes during halftime of the Super Bowl, the Earth spins faster.
Posted by: Mr. Science

That's when all the men beat up their wives.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (63Dwl)

130
Miss Joy,

Most towns that have universities are turn blue. It's a shame. We really like Southern Illinois, lots of cool stuff to do there.

Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (3ek7K)

131 And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

I think "my home planet blew the f--k up" is a perfectly good reason to request asylum.

And foreign adoptees are not illegal aliens, to my knowledge.

So Gunn may be a big-mouthed dope.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (DgGvY)

132 Speaking only for myself and not MAGA…

It’s not that he’s an immigrant. It’s that the movie maker went out of his way to inject it into the discussion. And let’s be real Gunn really means he’s an illegal alien, and fuck you racist Trumpers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
===

Foundlings are deemed to be citizens from whenever their birth can be estimated to. Always have been.

Superman is and always has been a US citizen.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (/lPRQ)

133 First prize for the python hunt should be an engraved Colt Python.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
------------
This is how you run a tournament!

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (LVaYG)

134 127 Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM

She's very nice.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)

I'd think we'd find any woman bringing free beer hot though.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)

135 That's when all the men beat up their wives.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Equal rights, and lefts.
(I denounce myself)

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 12, 2025 10:46 PM (elaR+)

136 Megyn Kelly was on fire about Bondi all week. Its like Bondi did something personal to her. I feel bad for Bongino but I hope he explains what happened if he comes back to his podcast. He took a huge chance taking that job and I don't think his family was very happy about it. He seems like a good guy and they dont last long in DC.

Posted by: Megthered at July 12, 2025 10:46 PM (GOJbT)

137 one of the illegal aliens apprehended by federal agents during the CA cannabis farm raid has prior convictions for kidnapping, attempted rape, and attempted child molestation

You're not very good at your job, are you?

Posted by: Hedley Lamarr at July 12, 2025 10:46 PM (gKWVE)

138
Joyenz, good to see you. I hope you stick around!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (lCaJd)

139 I get you can’t avoid everything art that’s leftist. Most music is left wing. But I listen to music. So I am being hypocritical with Superman? Maybe.

But for the most part the music I listen to doesn’t start with the singer saying “oh by the way this song is about this political thing, and fuck you if you disagree with me”. That’s the difference.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (ImXfC)

140 127 Well, is she hot? Morons need to know.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:40 PM

She's very nice.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (jvJvP)

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"Nice"? Sounds like a trap to me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (dDmld)

141 111 Over long timescales, Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down, largely because of tidal friction from the moon.

—

Not climate change?

I blame Net Neutrality.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (Riz8t)

142 Howdy Club patrons! Just popping in to say YO!

Can't stay long but I'm feeling generous so a round for the house on me.

Tip your bartender.

Posted by: Doof at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (nB1L/)

143 MAGA hates immigrants period

-
And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)

144 BTW Ds
I saw Clapton and Knophler some years ago in Denver.
Wow. Two absolute guitar aficionados. Beauty in music!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 10:49 PM (L9kkv)

145 Found it! I'm going.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Send a report. Looks like a fun place.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (LVaYG)

146 128 Joyenz, I am, and am hoping you are, too.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (77rzZ)

147 MAGA hates immigrants period

-
And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6
====

Yet another clown pretending they do not comprehend the difference between an "immigrant" (defined by law as one with an immigrant visa) and an illegal alien invader.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (/lPRQ)

148
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.

__________

Hell, I think immigration is good for our country. And we have means for people to do so legally. These aren't the people Rep. PayPal is talking about.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (HZi96)

149 So Gunn may be a big-mouthed dope.

May?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (lUFok)

150 Heelllo, friends!

Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (QzINz)

151 >>Bondie needs to get moving

If John Solomon is correct, she has been.

This has been by far the most active and successful, from our side, presidency in our lives over the first 6 months. Oh yea, we just flew a bombing mission over Iran that destroyed the nuclerar project they have been working on for 50 years but what has Trump done for me this minute?

One year ago tomorrow they tried to put a bullet in Trump's head. Now USAID no longer exists and we had a budget surplus in the billions last month and the border is sealed tighter than a frog's ass.

These are the good times. We are winning. Don't miss it by always looking for the dark cloud.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (viF8m)

152 34 Trump put out the word: Bondi survives, Kash staying on.

Bongino status unclear.

Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 10:12 PM (AOsQT)

----

I am guessing that there was a lot of unverified speculation about the Epstein list. It probably contains lots of individuals with no actual proof of any wrong doing. There are probably a handful of true, gross perverts on there including Prince Whats-his-face. Epstein was a professional extortion artist. He probably needed to schmooze 1000s of people to get 20 idiots to bite, so his list probably contains more innocent people than guilty ones.

You also need to collect more evidence than just being on a list. I watch a lot of true crime stuff (like "The First 48", good show, check it out) and the investigators often know very early on who committed the murder, but it takes way longer than that to build a rock solid case to present in front of jury of idiots who can be swayed by stupid catch phrases like "if the glove does not fit, you must acquit"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (pI9a0)

153 'Evening, Piper. Howdy COMM and everyone else above. Was cooking bacon - yep, bacon at night. Never a wrong time.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (LVaYG)

154 Traditionally, Kal-El was born on the planet Krypton, which no longer exists. He was adopted by the childless Kents, a Mid-American farm couple. They didn’t go on about his origins: who would believe them? So he was a foundling. They retconned this in the 80s such that he was born when the rocket/spaceship carrying the future Superman landed on Earth! That gave him birthright citizenship!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (vcPNM)

155 Then again, Pramila Jayapal may be so stupid she actually thinks people just can wander into whatever country and its all good.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (/lPRQ)

156 The immigrant comments started from an interviewer trying to stir things up by asking Gunn, “Don’t you think MAGA will hate this movie because Superman is an immigrant?” Gunn did not say anything negative about MAGA or Trump (at least in what I have seen), and has put forth the idea that this new movie is for everyone. I know Gunn’s history and if that turns you off I completely understand. But Gunn (on the interview rounds for this movie) is not making provocative statements that are offensive to MAGA—that is just the angle that some reports are taking.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (tgTrV)

157

AMEN JackStraw!!!

Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (3ek7K)

158 Speaking of small m morons . . .

Senator Patty Murray@PattyMurray
Maybe cutting PBS and getting our kids hooked on brainrot TV is part of the Republican plan.
After all, if our kids watch PBS, they might learn to count!
And if our kids learn to count, how will Republicans ever convince anyone that trillions of dollars in tax cuts are free?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (L/fGl)

159 Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)

What’s amazing is that democrats actually believe that ridiculous number.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (Hlfhp)

160 Hey, Piper!

Hey, Scampy!

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:53 PM (77rzZ)

161 I'd think we'd find any woman bringing free beer hot though.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)

*rings doorbell*

Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)

162
153 'Evening, Piper. Howdy COMM and everyone else above. Was cooking bacon - yep, bacon at night. Never a wrong time.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025

My family left for vacation today, I am going on Wednesday to meet them for the last half of the week. It’s just me and the menagerie. Pretty quiet, except for the 8 billion frogs outside.

Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (QzINz)

163 'Evening, Bulg.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (LVaYG)

164 Hi Bulg!

Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (QzINz)

165 162 cont.

So I had cereal for dinner. Not bacon.

Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:55 PM (QzINz)

166 Amen, JackStraw, amen!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:56 PM (vcPNM)

167 Most towns that have universities are turn blue. It's a shame. We really like Southern Illinois, lots of cool stuff to do there.
Posted by: fourseasons at July 12, 2025 10:44 PM (3ek7K)

I love Illinois, the state politics is the only issue. Garden of the Gods is a beautiful area.
------------
Joyenz, good to see you. I hope you stick around!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 10:47 PM (lCaJd)

I will try, especially to post launch reminders. I am not much of a talker in person or online.
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Joyenz, I am, and am hoping you are, too.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:50 PM (77rzZ)

About as well as can be right now.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 10:56 PM (sPQoU)

168 I'd think we'd find any woman bringing free beer hot though.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 10:45 PM (jvJvP)

*rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)

Ack! I'm blind!

Seriously, that's Admiral Ackbar level of cruelty.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 10:57 PM (S/Y4j)

169 I’m so happy to be here. Y’all are great.

I might have to fall asleep soon, though.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:57 PM (77rzZ)

170 Hell, I think immigration is good for our country. And we have means for people to do so legally. These aren't the people Rep. PayPal is talking about.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Immigrant we like: Alberta Einstein.

Immigrant Pramila likes: child rapist at the weed farm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:57 PM (L/fGl)

171 *rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)

LOL!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:58 PM (5djiY)

172 Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack at July 12, 2025 10:54 PM (dR6yv)

More like a keg than a six pack.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:58 PM (0eaVi)

173 Don't underestimate the power of the Marxists/Democrats Propaganda Ministry

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (+qU29)

174 *rings doorbell*
Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack

I feel like after that picture of her Wednesday night, Lena needs a new, more robust nick name.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (ftFVW)

175 Alberta Einstein? He/she was trans?!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (vcPNM)

176 I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (5djiY)

177 Read some Substack posts today. Very interesting. It's like most of them are high-functioning autistics. The same showy language used to express some very nutty things.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (HZi96)

Identical showy language is an indication of AI generated text.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (D7oie)

178 167 Joyenz, I’m sorry if I seemed flippant. I hope that you are as well as you can be while mourning your father.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (77rzZ)

179
The history of all this as it relates to timekeeping is interesting. Up until the early 20th Century, the earth itself was the most accurate clock we had, much better than even the best mechanical chronometers made. A very accurate thing dubbed a master-slave vacuum pendulum clock was pretty good and used for precise astronomical timing. Eddington used one of these for he famous eclipse observations testing gravitational light bending against the then new General Relativity theory.

It wasn't until atomic clocks came on the scene that the variation of earth's rotation could be measured to high precision.

By the late 1800's they began to suspect the earth's rotation wasn't uniform, and wiggled around. Long term tidal slowing was known, but the daily wig woggles were suspected. Atomic clocks confirmed this to high precision.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:00 PM (w6EFb)

180 Liking the 2 episodes of Combat on H&I on Saturday night

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:00 PM (+qU29)

181 This has been by far the most active and successful, from our side, presidency in our lives over the first 6 months. Oh yea, we just flew a bombing mission over Iran that destroyed the nuclerar project they have been working on for 50 years but what has Trump done for me this minute?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (viF8m)

You forgot:

(Locks arms across chest, stamps feet}

The Country's turning into one big giant Karen/Ken.

Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:01 PM (gKDq2)

182 Posted by: Trigglypuff, in Daisy Dukes with a 6 pack

I now have two belly buttons and a desire to throw up.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 12, 2025 11:01 PM (elaR+)

183 Well, I took apart the little glue gun that died on me this morning, with a zzort! and puff of smoke. It wasn't the cord that shorted, it was the heating element itself. Unfixable, so into the trash can with it. Did salvage the cord.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:02 PM (5djiY)

184 Re Trigglypuff: the beer goggles, they do nothing!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 11:02 PM (vcPNM)

185 Alberta Einstein? He/she was trans?!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit

Damn Canadians!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (L/fGl)

186 Kash Patel
@Kash_Patel
The conspiracy theories just aren’t true, never have been. It’s an honor to serve the President of the United States @realDonaldTrump
— and I’ll continue to do so for as long as he calls on me.
12:26 PM · Jul 12, 2025
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7.5M
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Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (AOsQT)

187 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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How goes the transmission surgery? I think that was your recent project/task.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (LVaYG)

188 Evening, ONT-ers,

(Which sounds like the Ents in LoTR. Let's not be hasty, now.)

Joyenz, we are glad to see you here. Your father was esteemed, a fascinating raconteur with his stories, and his kindness toward the cats was legendary. Please stick around; you'll find out why he did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (omVj0)

189 My stepson is a foreign adoptee:

He is not an "immigrant"

He is a naturalized citizen.

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (rdVOm)

190 I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Yes. Right outside Colorado Springs.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (dR6yv)

191 Aukland butcher was selling "halal" sausages for over a decade. Turns out, no, those were just regular pork sausages. Still looking for the actual story instead of just a screen shot. But here's the screenshot: https://tinyurl.com/3dbxt8w4

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (lUFok)

192 Good evening. It's bachelor weekend at Casa de Pablo, so I'm enjoying a cigar on the back deck. It's my reward for a day of errands, yard work, and cooking in anticipation of the better half's return tomorrow.

Posted by: PabloD at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (o2Win)

193 MiladyJo and I have been watching a Tom Baker & Sarah Jane Smith era Doctor Who, "The Hand of Fear." (Oooo, spooky, kids!) Spacing them out like when they ran on PBS in the 1960s: We watched part 1, waited a few days, watched part 2, then today part 3. Thinking we'll go ahead and watch part 4 now.

They sure were cheesy. Big budget special effects (haha) and sets (a quarry, an industrial plant). The alien gal is kinda cute.🛸

BBL

Posted by: mindful webworker - whoot whoot whoot whoooot at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (+kBwA)

194 Albert Einstein was black.
Proof?
Look at his hair!

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (elaR+)

195 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (5djiY)

We have a Garden of the Gods as well here in S. Illinois. It is part of the Shawnee Forest.
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Joyenz, I’m sorry if I seemed flippant. I hope that you are as well as you can be while mourning your father.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 10:59 PM (77rzZ)

Oh no, I didn't take it that way at all. You were fine.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:05 PM (sPQoU)

196 I had cereal for dinner. Not bacon.
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 10:55 PM (QzINz)

Kaboom????

Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 11:05 PM (n4GiU)

197 Inordinately flowery language is how you can tell AI generated text (I am not an AI nor do I use an LLM)!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 11:05 PM (vcPNM)

198 >>> 153 'Evening, Piper. Howdy COMM and everyone else above. Was cooking bacon - yep, bacon at night. Never a wrong time.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 10:52 PM (LVaYG)

*nods*

Tonight's dinner at la maison du panier à main was BLTs and corn on the cob.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 11:06 PM (ULPxl)

199 I had chili dogs for dinner, no idea where that idea came from.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:07 PM (+qU29)

200 Natural Progression:

1. Singing
2. Singing while accompanied
3. Singing with a microphone
4. Studio level adjustment
(lip synching interlude)
5. Auto-tune
6. A-I generated
7. A-I generated with "live" hologram performances
8. A-I generated with live life-like robot performances
(Nuclear war)
9. All Keith Richards, all the time

Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (dIske)

201 Good evening all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (CHHv1)

202 How goes the transmission surgery? I think that was your recent project/task.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:03 PM (LVaYG)

Progressing slowly. I got the input drum assembly finished today. I found several ways to assemble it wrong, and finally sorted it out. Spent time trying to tighten clearance on the 3-4 apply clutch, and found using a wave plate from the parts transmission gave me the best I could manage. I did air-check all the clutches in that drum, and could hear the "clunk" as they applied, so there's that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (5djiY)

203 We finished watching Addams Family Values from 1993; a charmer as usual, with Christina Ricci as a standout Wednesday. 'Bout bedtime after a long tough day (car's battery died; I called AAA; drove to a tire shop and got a new battery; end of tale). Linda had a fire in a vacant apartment or condo near hers, and her place still smells of smoke, so she is crashing here.

The Killer Kittenz From Outer Space are doing well and wish all of you a good night. Well, actually, no, they just wish each of you would pop a scoop of dry Purina One cat chow into their bowls and then go away, but at least they are honest about it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (omVj0)

204 How did Leonhard Euler ever learn to count without some bisexual goth puppet with a fake Eastern European accent teaching him on television??

Posted by: gKWVE at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (gKWVE)

205 Inordinately flowery language is how you can tell AI generated text (I am not an AI nor do I use an LLM)!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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Agree. Eleventy. When someone at the shop sends over something asking for a review, it's obvious when it's not their words.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:08 PM (LVaYG)

206 195 Joyenz, that’s good.

God be with you and your family.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 11:09 PM (77rzZ)

207 >>The Country's turning into one big giant Karen/Ken.

It's bizarre how little the media reporting reflects real life. Probably why the media dying.

You don't have to be a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:09 PM (viF8m)

208 I am guessing that there was a lot of unverified speculation about the Epstein list. It probably contains lots of individuals with no actual proof of any wrong doing.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 12, 2025 10:51 PM (pI9a0)

The thing about the flight logs that got me was the plane was used for more than just trips to Pedo Island. Two names that stuck out to me on the plane's flight logs that I read, being a football fan, was Arsenal's manager, Mikael Arteta, and a former Chelsea player, Callum Hudson-Odoi. They were on some charity trip to Africa on that plane. The plane could go to many legitimate places for many legitimate reasons carrying as passengers completely legitimate people.

So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.

Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (gKDq2)

209 Okay- I read what I guess are blogs on Substack. There are a lot, but I just picked out a few good ones re: my personal interests

Is there some other Substack? That one sounds a bit like DU.

Posted by: sal at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (f+FmA)

210 Progressing slowly. I got the input drum assembly finished today. I found several ways to assemble it wrong, and finally sorted it out. Spent time trying to tighten clearance on the 3-4 apply clutch, and found using a wave plate from the parts transmission gave me the best I could manage. I did air-check all the clutches in that drum, and could hear the "clunk" as they applied, so there's that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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I'll be the guy standing by the toolbox - you call 'em out, I'll hand 'em to you. Rebuilt one transmission - that was enough. Good on you for tackling that project.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (LVaYG)

211 I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

We have a Garden of the Gods as well here in S. Illinois. It is part of the Shawnee Forest.
Posted by: Joyenz

Different gods, I guess.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:12 PM (DgGvY)

212 G’Night, All. Sleep well.

Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 11:14 PM (77rzZ)

213 I had a friend ask if it was possible to can cherries in jello. I have no idea if it is possible, so I mixed gelatin, pectin and sugar for cherries, to see what happened when I waterbath can them

I suspect it isn't going to do any good, so I will probably make a second attempt with twice as much pectin and gelatin.

The physical changes that pectin and gelatin undergo while making gel is very interesting. Pectin is reliant on pH and the sugar helps displace water which makes the pectin gel runny. Part of the "soft ball" stage appears to be driving off enough water from the mix, and the water content change while boiling changes the boiling point up.
Gelatin is actually sensitive to heat, and I may have to do a modified water bath treatment, like a sous vide set up, to get the temperature high enough to kill bacteria but low enough to allow the gelling to happen.

I like food chemistry. I wish I had gotten into it more back when I thought I could cook. I would have been a better cook!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 11:14 PM (D7oie)

214 Aukland butcher was selling "halal" sausages for over a decade. Turns out, no, those were just regular pork sausages. Still looking for the actual story instead of just a screen shot. But here's the screenshot: https://tinyurl.com/3dbxt8w4
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at July 12, 2025 11:04 PM (lUFok)

That does not pass the smell test. I mean, literally. Who would mistake the smell of cooking pork sausages for sausages made of beef, lamb, or goat? Dollars to donuts, the muzzies bought them as "halal" knowing full well they were pork, but could deceive allah because they bore the halal label. allah is easily tricked, you know.

And mocking the religion of orcs isn't "racist" per se. It's just taking advantage of simpletons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (5djiY)

215
Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)

216 So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.
Posted by: RickZ

We don't care about the flight logs from Miami to NYC.

Just the ones from NYC to the Underage Isles.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (DgGvY)

217 I listen to a fair bit of AI generated music, including Velvet Sundown, and while some of it is good to very good, it never is going to hit like the first time you heard Songs in The Key of Life, or Jira or Super Unknown.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 12, 2025 11:16 PM (XV/Pl)

218 "By the way, the fridge has been fully stocked with classic Mountain Dew. (None of that diet stuff here.) Help yourself."

If I help myself to a Dew, I don't have to be Kamala's running mate, do I?

Posted by: Mr. Right at July 12, 2025 11:16 PM (qbYk4)

219 G’Night, All. Sleep well.
Posted by: Bulg at July 12, 2025 11:14 PM (77rzZ)

Sleep well

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (sPQoU)

220 ***Earth's rotation is actually gradually slowing down
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Oh, no, when the earth slows too much we lose gravity and the oceans fly up in the sky and we and the animals do too.
Call up Musk on the telephone and tell him to shut the fuck up and get to work.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (zH8im)

221 Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)

I'm a big fan of that one

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (xcxpd)

222 *pops a cold one and wanders*

I'll commence to lurking over here in this corner.
Love all youz!!!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (L9kkv)

223 I am guessing that there was a lot of unverified speculation about the Epstein list. It probably contains lots of individuals with no actual proof of any wrong doing.
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A credible way to punt on the situation would be to say "We don't have enough evidence to bring any further charges". No one would be particularly surprised that any useful evidence got disappeared before Trump's people could publish it.

Unfortunately Bondi made sweeping statements about the magnitude of what she had, and now wants to toe the Deep State line that there is nothing there and was never anything there, and for whatever reason, Trump's backing her.

That's a black mark on both of them. And if we see Bongino leave over this, that act, regardless of what he can or can't further say, is confirmation that there is much more there there than the Trump regime is telling us. It would mean that Trump is lying to us, whatever else he may be doing that coincides with our interests.

Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:17 PM (zLwRl)

224 Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)

I watched that as well. Old movies are my thing.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:18 PM (sPQoU)

225 I used to be scared of automatic transmissions.
Been slowly rebuilding a 68 Ford C6 automatic when I can.
Not bad at all.
Can't say I'd tackle a modern transmission, though.

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:18 PM (elaR+)

226 Good evening, long time lurker, occasional commentor here. A few nights ago, several lurkers made appearances, I believe when the horde was reminiscing about dearly departed morons. I was inspired by that and would love for lurkers to perhaps say hi and how long they have been reading this blog. I'll start...hi, my name is (not) Scarlett, and I have been lurking for about 12 years, maybe more, after being introduced by another long time lurker. This place is great and I enjoy the content, comments, and will wonderful people.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 12, 2025 11:19 PM (GJ7ds)

227

I ain't gonna work on Gavin's farm no more
No, I ain't gonna work on Gavin's farm no more

Posted by: Little Pedro at July 12, 2025 11:20 PM (63Dwl)

228
Here's what the earth's rotation has been doing since 1962, when the atomic clock system was put into place (TIA):

https://tinyurl.com/hk6sxps5

Note the rapid day to day variation, shown by the spiky gray lines, vs the moving 365 day average shown by the green curve. Now, the grey line would correlate with UT1 time scale, while the green one would be tracking UT2, a smoothed time scale that used to be used for "UT"/GMT-equivalent.

You can see the trend has been speeding up over the last 60 years.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:20 PM (w6EFb)

229 Go Little Pedro!

LOL!

Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (gKDq2)

230 208
So I'm not looking for just names on the flight logs, I'm looking for criminal activity tied to those names. That means arrests not tv sound-bite interviews.
Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 11:10 PM (gKDq2)
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My unpopular take on the Epstein debacle: the names will never be released as they would likely cause economic collapse if not outright war (I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others). Even if they were released, none of them would face justice, they'd either go full diplomatic immunity or spend a few million on lawyers to drag it out forever. They can't un-screw those kids, and the victims have no path to compensation. It's a vicious, evil soul-consuming clusterfuck.

That said, we have the information. When we brought the Paperclip and Unit 731 guys here after WWII, we didn't tell them to burn their research first. We used it. And, since this exists, we can use it as well.

US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.

It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)

231 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (bss/y)

232 I used to be scared of automatic transmissions.
Been slowly rebuilding a 68 Ford C6 automatic when I can.
Not bad at all.
Can't say I'd tackle a modern transmission, though.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:18 PM (elaR+)

Conceptually, they are pretty simple. In practice, they get very complicated, with many duplications of "almost the same" parts, that may have slight differences that are crucial, and have to be installed the right way in the right sequence.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (5djiY)

233
This place is great and I enjoy the content, comments, and will wonderful people.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at July 12, 2025 11:19 PM (GJ7ds)

________

Fiddle-dee-dee!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (HZi96)

234 If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (Hlfhp)

235 More than the pedos at the island I want to know who was controlling Epstein.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (zH8im)

236 And I know you're all crushed at my lack of posting (massive sarcasm), but kind of hard to visit when working 50+ hours a week.
My employer just doesn't understand why we are so productive on Saturdays versus the rest of the week.
This is mainly because they don't bother to analyze why.

So we work 10 hour days M-F and Saturday hours are TBD.

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (elaR+)

237
(I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others)

_________

If not more so. I should think that they use devices you only thought you read about.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (HZi96)

238 If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.
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Thank Mother Nature for Ozempic!

Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (zLwRl)

239 I'll start...hi, my name is (not) Scarlett, and I have been lurking for about 12 years, maybe more, after being introduced by another long time lurker. This place is great and I enjoy the content, comments, and will wonderful people.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara

Custom is to include pics.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (/lPRQ)

240 215
Svengoolie ran "Invaders from Mars" tonight. Fun little cheesy 1950s sci-fi monster type flick.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:15 PM (w6EFb)
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Great film, and Helena Carter was an absolute smokeshow.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:24 PM (QdGJh)

241 109 The line about “truth, justice, and the human way” is not used or even hinted at in the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:38 PM (tgTrV)

Correct.

Also, I will also add that this movie has an incredible number of super hot women in this. With one noticeable slow motion jiggle scene.

I have no idea why, but I am not complaining.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 11:25 PM (xcxpd)

242 Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:25 PM (+qU29)

243 That said, we have the information. When we brought the Paperclip and Unit 731 guys here after WWII, we didn't tell them to burn their research first. We used it. And, since this exists, we can use it as well.

US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.

It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)

That's about the size of it, I think. And were any of the "kids" at Epstein Island really little children, like pre-puberty, or were they more in the jailbait class, physically pretty mature, but a year or two short of legal age?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:26 PM (5djiY)

244 Conceptually, they are pretty simple. In practice, they get very complicated, with many duplications of "almost the same" parts, that may have slight differences that are crucial, and have to be installed the right way in the right sequence.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

From looking at the C6 vs. the GM stuff of the same era the similarities are striking.
However, I know there is zero interchange.

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:27 PM (elaR+)

245 Epstein was an intel Kompromat op against western and anglosphere politicians, scientists and tech leaders, those were the people on the flights, in his black book and on the tapes.

The reason why it's being covered up is because the controlling authorities do not want to let the world know that everyone is being blackmailed in some form or fashion.

And this is the last time I'm going to talk about Epstein because, in the final analysis, and in the main, no one cares.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 12, 2025 11:27 PM (XV/Pl)

246
It's possible to go back well before 1962, although it will not be as precise as the atomic clock data: Scroll down this page and you'll see a LOD graph going back to 1830:
https://tinyurl.com/yah2me49

Where does that come from? By the early 1800s, astronomical observations were getting precise enough to see wig-woggle in the earth's rotation, and thus, over time relative to earth rotation based time.

You can see the earth was spinning pretty fast around 1870, an even bigger acceleration hiccup that now. About 3 ms less than 24 hours. But, by the early 1900s, it had slowed down, touching 4 ms longer than 24 hours.

But, if you plot a linear trend line over those 200 years, you'll see that the LOD is getting longer, and that agrees very closely with the calculated long term tidal slowing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (w6EFb)

247 Don't run and live another day. Tired of the media trying to push the sympathy card.

California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (sPQoU)

248
So we work 10 hour days M-F and Saturday hours are TBD.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (elaR+)

_________

Grad school in STEM is supposed to involve some massive hours. But I think if an adviser said to his group, "No one can work past 6:00 or on weekends," the efficiency would go up considerably.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (HZi96)

249 234 If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 11:23 PM (Hlfhp)

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FUN FACT: The penguins wouldn't feel a thing.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (dDmld)

250
US: Sign this trade deal.
Country X: Never! This deal is terrible!
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!
Country X: Let's go ahead and get that deal signed.

It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky
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So we will never from the Clintons again?

Sarcasm aside...
Victoria was not the only pedo bait there.
Far from it... Or are we to believe that her charm alone supported Epstein's empire?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 11:28 PM (/lPRQ)

251 Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip

Well, allegedly she acted as pimp in securing females and supposedly even participated in sex acts with Epstein and the underaged females.

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:29 PM (elaR+)

252 It's possible to go back well before 1962, although it will not be as precise as the atomic clock data: Scroll down this page and you'll see a LOD graph going back to 1830:
https://tinyurl.com/yah2me49

Where does that come from? By the early 1800s, astronomical observations were getting precise enough to see wig-woggle in the earth's rotation, and thus, over time relative to earth rotation based time.

You can see the earth was spinning pretty fast around 1870, an even bigger acceleration hiccup that now. About 3 ms less than 24 hours. But, by the early 1900s, it had slowed down, touching 4 ms longer than 24 hours.

But, if you plot a linear trend line over those 200 years, you'll see that the LOD is getting longer, and that agrees very closely with the calculated long term tidal slowing.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley
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Been reading a decent amount/researching watches and how they stay so accurate. Might be a bit nerdy for an ONT, but very cool stuff.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:29 PM (LVaYG)

253
US: Hey look! Video of your prime minister raping kids!

________

Some big scandal in Belgium long time ago where the PM was involved in raping little girls.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:30 PM (HZi96)

254 If the earth seriously slowed down gravity would appear to increase, because the earths rotation would no longer be trying to toss you off the planet.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Move to one of the poles, then gravity will remain more constant as the earth's rotation slows down.

Though it'll still drop as the rotation-driven equatorial bulge subsides. That'll move the equator closer to the core, and the poles further away, so gravity will be more equal between them.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:31 PM (DgGvY)

255 245 Thomas as good a theory as any

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:32 PM (+qU29)

256 From looking at the C6 vs. the GM stuff of the same era the similarities are striking.
However, I know there is zero interchange.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:27 PM (elaR+)

I have done relatively few automatics. A Powerglide, which did not work out well; a C4, which did, a couple of Studebaker Flightomatics (almost identical to the Ford cast-iron Cruisomatic), which both worked well, and a Ford AODE, and a previous 4L60E, which both worked well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:32 PM (5djiY)

257 >> Though it'll still drop as the rotation-driven equatorial bulge subsides.

Sea level would shift too, as the shape of the equipotenial "geoid" surfaces would become more spherical and less ellipsoidal. I was reading about that recently. Very complicated business.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:33 PM (w6EFb)

258 It's awful, but we'd might as well be pragmatic. The world is a vicious place.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 12, 2025 11:21 PM (QdGJh)

Then I insist on VA benefits and pensions for the trafficked girls. If we are going to be the policy of the feral gov to accept such things as a cost of doing business.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 11:33 PM (D7oie)

259 Then there would be a list

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:35 PM (+qU29)

260 Beelink owners PSA:

Do not use a pencil eraser or any like object to press the power button on the device. The button is not hard plastic it is a rubber cup covering a tiny pin that drives the switch.

If one uses an object smaller in diameter than the button he will drive the soft cup into the body of the device rendering it unable to be activated.

...until one removes the bottom plate and carefully, if the pin's not broken, pushes the rubber cup back into place.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:35 PM (zH8im)

261 Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:25 PM (+qU29)

We're apparently supposed to believe that he was a lone wolf. Like Crooks. Or the Vegas shooter.

Just with his own island. Somehow.

Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:36 PM (zLwRl)

262 >>Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.

She's in prison because at her trial numerous victims came forward and testified that she helped traffic them to Epstein. Nobody else, Epstein.

Did they pimp the girls out to others? Sure. But that is not what Maxwell was charged with or convicted of.

Here's the DOJ press release.

https://tinyurl.com/27mtt6nv

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:37 PM (viF8m)

263
I have no proof that elites are re-enacting The 120 Days of Sodom but I wouldn't be astonished if it were one day revealed that elites re-enacted The 120 Days of Sodom.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 11:37 PM (HZi96)

264 I know that all of the Morons are well aware that Bill Nye is actually an imbecile, rather than a scientist.

However, this link below from his show is the cringiest, least AOS thing I have ever seen.

https://tinyurl.com/4ht8ez7y

Beware! Only go to that link if you want to view the anti-matter mirror image opposite of an ONT!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 11:37 PM (HlyYF)

265 @255

>>Thomas as good a theory as any

It's pretty obvious what Epstein was, and most of his story has been investigated and revealed in disparate books, news articles by both MSM and independent journalists and various legal proceedings.

What is missing is formal acknowledgement of what Epstein was, which we are never going to get, apparently.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 12, 2025 11:38 PM (XV/Pl)

266 Famous and powerful people flew to that island and it wasn't for the food

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:39 PM (+qU29)

267 I am off to bed, dog is snoring, cats hogging up as much space as they possibly can. I know yall are jealous of my life. 😂

Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (QzINz)

268 The reason why it's being covered up is because the controlling authorities do not want to let the world know that everyone is being blackmailed in some form or fashion.
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Then there is no possibility of representative government in this country and it's time to try something else.

Without all of the people who have corrupted themselves by participating in the US federal government.

Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (zLwRl)

269
Don't run and live another day. Tired of the media trying to push the sympathy card.

California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
Posted by: Joyenz

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Good lord, he appears to be about 60 and he's Mexican. It's not like North Korea. Just go along peacefully, Jaime. You're not a stuntman.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (lCaJd)

270 another judge playing President:

@JonathanTurley
Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, U.S. District Court for the Central District of California, has issued restraining orders that effectively freeze ICE arrests in Los Angeles. The orders are breathtakingly broad and, in my view, will be difficult to sustain on appeal.
3:22 PM · Jul 12, 2025
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Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (AOsQT)

271 For the 2nd time (that I'm aware of) I made one of the comments of the week. I'm somebody! (With apologies to Steve Martin.)

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (KAi1n)

272 266 Famous and powerful people flew to that island and it wasn't for the food
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:39
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Yelp reviews raved about the shrimp cocktail. No mention of the NDA's.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (LVaYG)

273 Grad school in STEM is supposed to involve some massive hours. But I think if an adviser said to his group, "No one can work past 6:00 or on weekends," the efficiency would go up considerably.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

M-F all the other departments are on site.
The assembly line is a like an interference engine.
If the timing is right it runs like there is no tomorrow.
In my few months with the company, those days have been exceptionally rare.
When the timing is off in an interference motor, you have catastrophic failure.
While it hasn't been THAT bad, something always kneecaps our production.
The biggest issue is other departments not having their shit together.
Said departments aren't there on Saturdays.
Yet the degreed geniuses in charge either don't see this or don't care.
I guess they'd rather pay OT and lose people to burnout rather than fix the issues.

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:41 PM (elaR+)

274 >>>My unpopular take on the Epstein debacle: the names will never be released as they would likely cause economic collapse if not outright war (I'm sure Chinese diplomats are just as pervy as any others). Even if they were released, none of them would face justice, they'd either go full diplomatic immunity or spend a few million on lawyers to drag it out forever. They can't un-screw those kids, and the victims have no path to compensation. It's a vicious, evil soul-consuming clusterfuck.
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There's a Megyn Kelly utube, she verified it was indisputably true, with Dershowitz explaining how the main witness against Prince Andrew, forgot her name, has been proven to give false information. All of her testimony is invalid.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:43 PM (zH8im)

275 Don't run and live another day. Tired of the media trying to push the sympathy card.

California migrant worker dies after trying to run from ICE https://mol.im/a/14900589
Posted by: Joyenz

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Good lord, he appears to be about 60 and he's Mexican. It's not like North Korea. Just go along peacefully, Jaime. You're not a stuntman.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Just trying to get back to the Home Depot garden section for his next gig.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 11:43 PM (/lPRQ)

276
I have created a cat monster. Item: "Delectables", a tuna/shrimp treat paste stuff. They go crazy over that stuff. And this little cat has paste timer. He demands it every night about this time. Nothing will do him but to get some of the paste.

He comes in here and starts escalating the agitation. He will not let me ignore him when it's paste time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 12, 2025 11:44 PM (w6EFb)

277 The way I see it the Queen didn't think it was invalid

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:46 PM (+qU29)

278 Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Posted by: Don Black

I find her guilty of having an unfathomably silly name.

I place a stay on all of her judgments until she chooses a name no sillier than "Karen Johnson."

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:47 PM (DgGvY)

279 Found it. Jul 11, 2025

Megyn Kelly is joined by Dave Aronberg and Viva Frei, legal experts, to discuss important distinction between a Jeffrey Epstein “client list” and a “list of clients,” whether any sort of list should be made public and if powerful people are being protected, whether we'll ever get more info about the story, and more..

It's timed to start at the intro to Dershowitz.

https://youtu.be/cykkvQJ45R4?t=42

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:47 PM (zH8im)

280 267 I am off to bed, dog is snoring, cats hogging up as much space as they possibly can. I know yall are jealous of my life. 😂
Posted by: Piper at July 12, 2025 11:40 PM (QzINz

Good night Piper!

And Good night Horde!

It was a good day! I'm healing faster than I thought now that things are better..

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! Mentally Improving daily - 10.08% at July 12, 2025 11:48 PM (jvJvP)

281 Famous and powerful people flew to that island and it wasn't for the food
Posted by: Skip

Yelp reviews raved about the shrimp cocktail. No mention of the NDA's.
Posted by: scampydog

Shrimp cock tail? ISWYDT.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:48 PM (DgGvY)

282

Joy,

The illegal who fell off the roof of the greenhouse, the asshole left wanted to make him the next George Floyd martyr.

I'm hoping the left doesn't "come up" with someone they deem a martyr because all hell will break loose in our country.

Posted by: four seasons at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (3ek7K)

283
Ghiselle is in prison for some reason, and Epstein was picked up and prisoners for some reason.
Posted by: Skip

From Coast to Coast AM:

Seasoned private investigator Nils Grevillius joined guest host Richard Syrett to discuss high-profile criminal cases, mainly the Jeffrey Epstein. Regarding Jeffrey Epstein, Grevillius provided an alternative perspective on the convicted sex offender's operations, suggesting that Epstein was merely a front for a larger intelligence scheme. He posed a provocative question: "What if Ghislaine Maxwell was running an operation for MI6? What if the CIA bought shares in it?" He speculated that these intelligence agencies used Epstein's network as "a honey trap" to gather compromising material on powerful figures. Grevillius also expressed skepticism about the DOJ and FBI's conclusions regarding Epstein's death, criticizing the handling of evidence.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (63Dwl)

284 A year ago tomorrow Trump missed having his brains blown out because he unexpectedly turned his head.

We know dick about the shooter or how he was allowed to get a clean shot at Trump. We don't know much more about the spaz who tried to murder him in Florida.

The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (viF8m)

285 Both assassination attempts went down the rabbit hole

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:51 PM (+qU29)

286
JackStraw,

I think it is "look over here." Don't look over there.

It's all hinky.

Posted by: four seasons at July 12, 2025 11:51 PM (3ek7K)

287 The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.
Posted by: JackStraw

The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:51 PM (DgGvY)

288 Oh except now we know a few SS Agents will get vacations and moved somewhere

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:52 PM (+qU29)

289 I'm rested, fresh and ready to expose all the Epstein client perverts. I just need an old fashioned impeachment so I can deliver to the American people.

Posted by: JD Vance at July 12, 2025 11:53 PM (/U5Yz)

290 have done relatively few automatics. A Powerglide, which did not work out well; a C4, which did, a couple of Studebaker Flightomatics (almost identical to the Ford cast-iron Cruisomatic), which both worked well, and a Ford AODE, and a previous 4L60E, which both worked well.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I have a car that has an ST300 which many mistake for a Powerglide.
It's just adequate at best and hardly anyone sells parts for it.
It's the definition of "meh".
A TH350 or 7004r will replace it.

Was the AODE much of a challenge to rebuild?

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:54 PM (elaR+)

291 Ahoy, hordelings.

*nods toward Braenyard*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 12, 2025 11:54 PM (8BiK7)

292 I just need an old fashioned impeachment so I can deliver to the American people.
Posted by: JD Vance

The 25th amendment is sitting right there, buddy.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (DgGvY)

293 >Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
Posted by: Don Black
----

born in this country to Ghanaian parents
indoctrinated at Harvard and Yale

Posted by: Don Black at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (AOsQT)

294 The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:49 PM (viF8m)

One might assume that President Trump doesn't need outside pressure to manage an interest in the two attempts on his life.

As far as I know, he hasn't send Bondi out to tell the world that Crooks and the Ukraine recruiter were lone wolves and that we should stop asking questions about them.

Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (zLwRl)

295 >>The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).

Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.

Homan announced the other day they have found 10,000 so far. They found a bunch at the weed frm in CA the other day. That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 11:55 PM (viF8m)

296 284 Jackstraw.
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The word transparency. Seems to only apply in the private sector. Never seem to get answers from the public sector - a lot like the Magic 8 Ball. Or better yet - now you see it, now you don't crap.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 11:56 PM (LVaYG)

297
The obsession over Epstein when it is well know and has been for years he was a protected asset of the CIA and likely also worked with some of the intel agencies or our "allies" while completely ignoring when tried to murder our POTUS, twice, is bizarre.

Posted by: JackStraw
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Many people are relieved at the attention focused on Epstein.
Bondi, closed the case against Pfizer. How many people did Epstein kill? How many people did Pfizer kill?
That's just one of a multitude of heinous things across the board.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 11:57 PM (zH8im)

298 The way I see it the Queen didn't think it was invalid
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:46 PM (+qU29)

Andrew went to Epstein's island and boinked Virginia Giuffre, who may have been underage at the time, hence "jailbait". She even went to London with him; it's not like he was strenuously hiding the affair. And she might have been "legal" in London, not certain. So he was a horndog banging an underage (depending upon date and jurisdiction) hooker. Not really a pedo. I'd say Bill Clinton's dalliance with Monica Lewinsky was on about the same level of dumbassery.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:58 PM (5djiY)

299 >>The murder of an adult squicks us out a lot less than the (statutory) rape of children (or child slaves).

Under the Biden administration, over 300,000 children were trafficked into the US and then disappeared. 300,000.

Homan announced the other day they have found 10,000 so far. They found a bunch at the weed frm in CA the other day. That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.
Posted by: JackStraw

And they're being abused by randos like the owner of the pot farm. Epstein's kids were being abused by the people running the world. No difference to the kids, but a big difference to us.

Compare the Catholic priest or schoolteacher cases. Or the abuse of a child by a parent versus by a random kidnapper.

We Do Not Like It when the people in power abuse their power.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 11:59 PM (DgGvY)

300 That leaves only 290,000 to go. I've yet to see the same outrage over these children and there are a shitload more of them.
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I didn't notice Trump sending Bondi out to tell us that there was no there there with them and that we should stop asking questions about them.

Did I miss that?

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:00 AM (zLwRl)

301 284 A year ago tomorrow Trump missed having his brains blown out because he unexpectedly turned his head.

We know dick about the shooter or how he was allowed to get a clean shot at Trump. We don't know much more about the spaz who tried to murder him in Florida.

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We do know that Thomas Crooks was in a BlackRock commercial and Ryan Routh was in a commercial for a pro-Ukraine group he was involved in that was also funded by BlackRock. But hey BlackRock (the investment firm of the woke globalists) totally isn't involved

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)

302 Was the AODE much of a challenge to rebuild?
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 12, 2025 11:54 PM (elaR+)

No. Very similar to the 4L60E. Electronically-controlled 4-speed automatic. Cost me a lot more for the parts, though. I think close to 2 grand. Truck drove fine once I had it done, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:02 AM (5djiY)

303 >>The word transparency. Seems to only apply in the private sector. Never seem to get answers from the public sector - a lot like the Magic 8 Ball. Or better yet - now you see it, now you don't crap.

It's never been this way and never will. As I mentioned above, USAID no longer exists. That was the CIA. Most people have no frigging clue. Why aren't we celebrating the fact the CIA's regime change machine has been broken? Or don't wins actually matter?

Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. He isn't going to get deader and Maxwell isn't going to do more time. I'm good with turning our focus on the myriad of problems we still have that we can actually fix.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:03 AM (viF8m)

304 143 MAGA hates immigrants period

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And Pramila Jayapal hates you for it.

Rep. Pramila Jayapal@RepJayapal
NEW POLL: A record high 79% of Americans believe that immigration is good for our country.
Yet Trump and Republicans continue vilifying immigrants, kidnapping and disappearing innocent people, and breaking the law. It must end.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:48 PM (L/fGl)

I recall a recent batch of immigrants, legal ones, that the left was hopping mad over them being allowed to enter our country. Some lefties were even threatening that someone would kill the immigrants.

So do they only like immigrants that sneak in and commit crimes and burden our social services?

Posted by: Emmie at July 13, 2025 12:03 AM (rF2iL)

305 I have created a cat monster. Item: "Delectables", a tuna/shrimp treat paste stuff. They go crazy over that stuff. And this little cat has paste timer. He demands it every night about this time. Nothing will do him but to get some of the paste.

He comes in here and starts escalating the agitation. He will not let me ignore him when it's paste time.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley

Reminds me of my diabetic kitty.
She gets hangry at night.
She would knock items off my night table and/or attack my other kitty in order to get food so she'd behave.

I removed everything from the night table. That worked for a couple nights.
Kitty cane up with a new plan.
She would still fight my other cat, but she started to walk on me to wake me up.
As I have to be up very early, it's a problem.
It's hard to say no as she is somewhere near 20 and I know my remaining time with her is short anyway.

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 13, 2025 12:03 AM (elaR+)

306 John Soloman says DOJ has been diligently working, putting things together for a big surprise. Hope he's right.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:04 AM (zH8im)

307 My takeaway from the latest Trump proclamation is, if you're a world power it is perfectly okay to exploit young underaged girls in furtherment of your end goals as well as covering it up like a cat covering a GOP turd.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:04 AM (/U5Yz)

308 306 John Soloman says DOJ has been diligently working, putting things together for a big surprise. Hope he's right.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

No offense but, John Solomon is the Jim Cramer of DC.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (/U5Yz)

309 No. Very similar to the 4L60E. Electronically-controlled 4-speed automatic. Cost me a lot more for the parts, though. I think close to 2 grand. Truck drove fine once I had it done, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Ouch.
Let me scratch that idea off my list.
Thanks.

Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (elaR+)

310 The new AoS ads are pretty comical. Recently seen ads: Coffins, cars, saggy skin, and dental implants. That ad right after the FIRST/Sponge comment - still haven't adjusted to that.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (LVaYG)

311 I think the White House position re: Epstein is gelling around

'we're on a roll right now, and we don't need this shit tripping us up- moving on!'

Posted by: Don Black at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (AOsQT)

312 >>I didn't notice Trump sending Bondi out to tell us that there was no there there with them and that we should stop asking questions about them.

You're going to have to be a bit more specific. If you are asking if Trump said to move past Epstein and does he think Bondi is doing a good job representing his goals, yea, he did. Emphatically.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:06 AM (viF8m)

313 We ate on 7 months, something better break open sokn

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:07 AM (+qU29)

314 Arrrg!
Off Racial Revisionist sock.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 12:07 AM (elaR+)

315 I'm good with turning our focus on the myriad of problems we still have that we can actually fix.
Posted by: JackStraw
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I like the trend. It's a nice change of pace. I want more pedal on the right.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:07 AM (LVaYG)

316 >>No offense but, John Solomon is the Jim Cramer of DC.

No offense but that is dumb. He was the first actual reporter to blow up the Russia hoax.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:08 AM (viF8m)

317 Back in to say I'm done for the night.

_____old Dr Who spoiler alert____
I had no idea that "Hand of Fear" was the last old Who with Sarah Jane. When Tom Baker Dr Who says goodbye, he says, until we meet again. Bittersweet; they didn't meet again until the new series David Tennant. I was glad Elisabeth Sladen's character got to recur, decades later, and even got her own spin-off series before she died. For all the silliness of Dr Who, she was a sweetheart.
_____end spoiler alert, as if it were needed_____

Gonna jump in the ol' Tardis - one that has a working chameleon circuit and is disguised as a comfy bed - and time-travel to Sunday morning.
*cranks wheel, pushes lever, whiney noises screech*

G'nite, y'all.

https://youtu.be/Xg8M-8BqTGs

Posted by: mindful webworker - be seeing you at July 13, 2025 12:09 AM (+kBwA)

318 >>>Cost me a lot more for the parts, though. I think close to 2 grand. Truck drove fine once I had it done, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Times have changed. Caddy r&r, by the shop, $250.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:09 AM (zH8im)

319 >>No offense but that is dumb. He was the first actual reporter to blow up the Russia hoax.
Posted by: JackStraw

NO. What is dumb is you always taking the deep states side on any matter. It's old, Its crusty, and it's pathetic.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:09 AM (/U5Yz)

320
The illegal who fell off the roof of the greenhouse, the asshole left wanted to make him the next George Floyd martyr.

I'm hoping the left doesn't "come up" with someone they deem a martyr because all hell will break loose in our country.

Posted by: four seasons

===============

That's exactly what I'm dreading. We know it's coming.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:10 AM (9pzfg)

321 Sometimes the special of the day is a shit sandwich.

Posted by: Don Black at July 13, 2025 12:10 AM (AOsQT)

322 Ouch.
Let me scratch that idea off my list.
Thanks.
Posted by: Racial Revisionist at July 13, 2025 12:05 AM (elaR+)

The 4L80E is the big brother to the 4L60E. Think of it as the 4-speed overdrive successor to the TH400, just as the 4L60E was a successor to the TH350. Bigger, and stronger.

I will say the 6-speed automatic in my 2008 Suburban has been very reliable for 330,000 km. Over 200,000 miles. If I were going to build a big-power hotrod using GM components, I would that tranmission or the 4L80E.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:11 AM (5djiY)

323 Have new Hyundai Pallasade ad up. Looks nice

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:11 AM (+qU29)

324 We do know that Thomas Crooks was in a BlackRock commercial and Ryan Routh was in a commercial for a pro-Ukraine group he was involved in that was also funded by BlackRock. But hey BlackRock (the investment firm of the woke globalists) totally isn't involved
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)

IIRC, Tim Walz was also in a BlackRock commercial. It's all very weird.

Posted by: Emmie at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (rF2iL)

325 >>NO. What is dumb is you always taking the deep states side on any matter. It's old, Its crusty, and it's pathetic.

Sure thing, retard.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (viF8m)

326 Metadata embedded in the video and analyzed by WIRED and independent video forensics experts shows that rather than being a direct export from the prison’s surveillance system, the footage was modified, likely using the professional editing tool Adobe Premiere Pro. The file appears to have been assembled from at least two source clips, saved multiple times, exported, and then uploaded to the DOJ’s website, where it was presented as “raw” footage.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (/U5Yz)

327 It's never been this way and never will. As I mentioned above, USAID no longer exists. That was the CIA. Most people have no frigging clue. Why aren't we celebrating the fact the CIA's regime change machine has been broken? Or don't wins actually matter?
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It isn't a win until the enemy is in chains or in the ground, or at the very least, made a very public show of surrender.

None of those options have yet come to pass.

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:12 AM (zLwRl)

328
Blonde,

Yep, the left is working hard to "create" another martyr.

I think law enforcement is working hard to not help the assholes "create" another one.

Posted by: four seasons at July 13, 2025 12:13 AM (3ek7K)

329
The long term, geological time scale variation of the earth's mean solar day is also interesting. As mentioned, the main driver of slowing the earth's rotation is the tidal friction of the the Moon, pulling up tidal bulges. To conserve angular momentum, as the earth slows, the Moon must recede. A fraction of the earth's rotational kinetic energy goes to increasing the Moon's orbital energy. The balance goes to heat.

So, as the Moon slows the earth down, the equal and opposite reaction throws the Moon into a higher orbit. This process goes roughly as 1/r^6, where r is the Moon's mean orbital radius. Think of it as tidal field (inverse cube) squared.

When you naively plug that it, you find over the 4.5 billion years since the Moon formed, it should be farther away. It would take "only" 1.7 billion years or so for the Moon to be thrown from the Roche limit of the earth to the current distance.

There are other complex factors involved, and it was sort of ongoing question. It was solved around 2023.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:14 AM (w6EFb)

330 324 We do know that Thomas Crooks was in a BlackRock commercial and Ryan Routh was in a commercial for a pro-Ukraine group he was involved in that was also funded by BlackRock. But hey BlackRock (the investment firm of the woke globalists) totally isn't involved
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 13, 2025 12:01 AM (pI9a0)

IIRC, Tim Walz was also in a BlackRock commercial. It's all very weird.
Posted by: Emmie
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One way to launder bonus money.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:15 AM (zH8im)

331
alright then
signing out before we descend into anarchy!

Posted by: Don Black at July 13, 2025 12:16 AM (AOsQT)

332
Turns out that over a 1 billion year period from about 2 billion years ago until 600 million years ago, the earth's day remained stable at about 19.5 hours. The Moon did not recede, and the earth didn't slow for 1 billion years.

If it did, the current day would be about 60 hours long, and the Moon would be much farther away. What happened? A very complex dance of regular tides, and a solar atmospheric tide that got in resonance at a rough 20 hour day.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:16 AM (w6EFb)

333 G'night, y'all!

Hope you have a lovely evening and remember....
Be strong and courageous!

Posted by: Emmie at July 13, 2025 12:16 AM (rF2iL)

334 _ Ad hominems are counter productive.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (zH8im)

335 It isn't a win until the enemy is in chains or in the ground, or at the very least, made a very public show of surrender.

So the fact we had a huge budget surplus last month when the "experts" said the economy would tank, the border is sealed, Iran will never have nukes, my taxes aren't going up, illegals are being sent to Sudan and on and on and on doesn't matter because Hillary isn't in chains?

That's kind of weird way of looking at the world.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (viF8m)

336 The long term, geological time scale variation of the earth's mean solar day is also interesting. As mentioned, the main driver of slowing the earth's rotation is the tidal friction of the the Moon, pulling up tidal bulges. To conserve angular momentum, as the earth slows, the Moon must recede. A fraction of the earth's rotational kinetic energy goes to increasing the Moon's orbital energy. The balance goes to heat.
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Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:14 AM (w6EFb)

The balance goes to heat. Is that heat the source of the heat in the Earth's core, or is that more from radioactive decay of heavy elements in the core?

And would adding a largish moon to Mars and/or Venus help in any way to terraform those planets?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (5djiY)

337 Turns out that over a 1 billion year period from about 2 billion years ago until 600 million years ago, the earth's day remained stable at about 19.5 hours. The Moon did not recede, and the earth didn't slow for 1 billion years.

If it did, the current day would be about 60 hours long, and the Moon would be much farther away. What happened? A very complex dance of regular tides, and a solar atmospheric tide that got in resonance at a rough 20 hour day.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb)
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Thanks for working that out and sharing before I went down that path. The long game it is.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:19 AM (LVaYG)

338 >>I didn't notice Trump sending Bondi out to tell us that there was no there there with them and that we should stop asking questions about them.

You're going to have to be a bit more specific. If you are asking if Trump said to move past Epstein and does he think Bondi is doing a good job representing his goals, yea, he did. Emphatically.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:06 AM (viF8m)

I was responding to your distraction regarding the foreign children whereabouts unknown.

People do get worked up about that when it's relevant to a discussion. It is not at the moment because the Trump regime is not insisting that it's a nothingburger and actively demanding that we not talk about it.

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:19 AM (zLwRl)

339 Sorry I'm late, my Orchestra of Unusual Instruments had a recital. My dog whistle solo really had them howling.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 13, 2025 12:20 AM (M7GJP)

340 Comment of the week??

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!!

(retrieves vintage pull tab from usb port)

You LIKE me! You really, really like me!

Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 12:23 AM (bA75n)

341 >>I was responding to your distraction regarding the foreign children whereabouts unknown.

It's not a distraction at all. It's a fact. Children are still children no matter where they are from.

Has it occured to you that Trump might know things you don't and that's why he came out again today, forcefully, supporting Bondi and saying this issue is closed as far as he is concerned?

If you are really angry with Trump, don't vote for him in 2028.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:24 AM (viF8m)

342 >>>339 Sorry I'm late, my Orchestra of Unusual Instruments had a recital. My dog whistle solo really had them howling.
Posted by: tankdemon
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Amazon is having a bluelight special on Timex!

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:24 AM (zH8im)

343 You LIKE me! You really, really like me!
Posted by: Joe Kidd at July 13, 2025 12:23 AM
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Let's not go overboard, Sally Fields. OK, go ahead - it did get top billing.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:25 AM (LVaYG)

344 >> Is that heat the source of the heat in the Earth's core, or is that more from radioactive decay of heavy elements in the core?

According the Grok, the tidal heating is very small in the total heat budget. The earth's internal heat fraction is about 47TW. The source of that is the heat of formation and radioactive decay. The tidal heating is about 3.7TW.

The brunt of that is dissipated into the oceans, with the remainder inside the earth. Most of this friction is with the ocean. The internal solid deformation is much smaller. So, the brunt of tidal heating is a surface thing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:27 AM (w6EFb)

345 The internal solid deformation is much smaller. So, the brunt of tidal heating is a surface thing.
Posted by: publius

The Paolo, he does not understand this, but he knows it is true.

Posted by: Paolo at July 13, 2025 12:31 AM (DgGvY)

346
For some mindboggling numbers, earth's total heat input, insolation (less what is reflected) + internal heat dissipation to the surface is 121 PW, 121,000 TW.

Tidal heating is but 0.003% of that YUGE number.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:31 AM (w6EFb)

347
Has it occured to you that Trump might know things you don't and that's why he came out again today, forcefully, supporting Bondi and saying this issue is closed as far as he is concerned?

Posted by: JackStraw

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It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:31 AM (9pzfg)

348 Heat of Formation was a song by Asia.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 12:32 AM (63Dwl)

349 Children are still children no matter where they are from.

And you can still injure yourself bending down to smack them. Y

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 13, 2025 12:33 AM (8tkni)

350 Speaking of dancing, we did a little bit tonight at my nephew's wedding reception. We took part in the anniversary dance, and my SiL's parents had everyone beat by being married for 55 years. Her dad slipped in a polka tune and did a surprisingly lively dance, given the state of his wife's hip. My family is far more German than Pooky's, so we clapped and cheered at the polka.

Posted by: please don't ask pookysgirl to play the accordion at July 13, 2025 12:33 AM (PPB1b)

351 So the fact we had a huge budget surplus last month when the "experts" said the economy would tank, the border is sealed, Iran will never have nukes, my taxes aren't going up, illegals are being sent to Sudan and on and on and on doesn't matter because Hillary isn't in chains?

That's kind of weird way of looking at the world.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:18 AM (viF8m)

Words mean things and you used the word "win". I think it should be reserved for victory, a state in which the enemy is vanquished. If you want to use it for like a game of tennis, I suppose you can, but I don't really care until the match is done.

I am not excited about a budget surplus unless it is going to be used to pay down the debt, and that can be celebrated once it is entirely gone. Nothing has been done which would prevent the mullahs from getting nukes. They've been set back and it will be their sons who have the next shot at it, but they are still there and are going to try again when they have an opportunity.

As to the rest, I have a hard time celebrating tens of thousands of invaders being shown the door, when Trump sounds like he's looking for an excuse to let tens of millions stay.

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:33 AM (zLwRl)

352 350 Speaking of dancing, we did a little bit tonight at my nephew's wedding reception. We took part in the anniversary dance, and my SiL's parents had everyone beat by being married for 55 years. Her dad slipped in a polka tune and did a surprisingly lively dance, given the state of his wife's hip. My family is far more German than Pooky's, so we clapped and cheered at the polka.
Posted by: please don't ask pookysgirl to play the accordion at July 13, 2025 12:33
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Congrats to your nephew. And the 55yr parents. Always an interesting mix of fun at wedding receptions.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:35 AM (LVaYG)

353 I thought Garden of the Gods was in Colorado?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Bridge of the Gods is in Oregon.😋

Posted by: buddhaha at July 13, 2025 12:37 AM (n3kHr)

354 The 4L80E is the big brother to the 4L60E. Think of it as the 4-speed overdrive successor to the TH400, just as the 4L60E was a successor to the TH350. Bigger, and stronger.

I will say the 6-speed automatic in my 2008 Suburban has been very reliable for 330,000 km. Over 200,000 miles. If I were going to build a big-power hotrod using GM components, I would that tranmission or the 4L80E.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You aren't wrong.
The TH350 would be temporary until the 700r4.
I would rather have a 2004r, but they seem hard to find in an affordable non-rebuilt state.
That is for the GM car.
Controlling a 4L80E in a vehicle from the 60's requires additional doohickeys and will require other modifications to the vehicle or driveline which I'd like to avoid.
This is for an F100 that would not see a lot of use.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 12:38 AM (elaR+)

355 >> And would adding a largish moon to Mars and/or Venus help in any way to terraform those planets?

That I do not know much about. Venus is rotating too damn slow, and backwards. A solar day on Venus works about to be about 116 earth days, about half of the Venusian year. And the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. You can work out that with it's retrograde rotation vs the sidereal year.

This is a big problem for earth-like conditions. However, I remember some interesting stuff. First, imagine we somehow blow away that thick atmosphere and replace it with an earth atmosphere. Now, we ask what balance of water vapor, vs total pressure would be good, and how would the climate respond. We need surface water to drive a cycle, O2, and all that.

I remember a long session with Grok about this, and I'll try to find it. This was in relation to some possible exoplanet climates.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:39 AM (w6EFb)

356 It's not a distraction at all. It's a fact. Children are still children no matter where they are from.
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Of course it's a distraction *to the discussion we are having*.

You are clearly trying to change the topic to anything other than what is apparently Trump's decision to protect Epstein's clients and his handlers from further public scrutiny.

You say that maybe he knows more, but I can make the same 8 dimensional chess argument by claiming that obviously he knows his position is completely unacceptable and designed to bring more attention to the topic as it is doing this weekend.

For whatever reason.

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 12:39 AM (zLwRl)

357
Now, Mars. First we need to add atmosphere there, and then we need to get a magnetic field kick started. This is a problem.

And Venus doesn't have intrinsic field either. But the think atmosphere has an induced field due to the solar wind. This would also be a problem if we blew away the thick atmosphere for an earth-like one.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 13, 2025 12:40 AM (w6EFb)

358
Venus is rotating too damn slow, and backwards.

You get younger every day.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 12:41 AM (63Dwl)

359 Congrats to your nephew. And the 55yr parents. Always an interesting mix of fun at wedding receptions.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 12:35 AM (LVaYG)

The part that weirds me out is that he didn't marry someone like his mom, or grandmas, or anyone else... except for me. His new bride has my same mannerisms, even looks like me, and dresses like me. I helped raise him when he was very young, so that must've had an impact.

Posted by: pookysgirl, leaving her mark on future generations at July 13, 2025 12:42 AM (PPB1b)

360 >>It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?

Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.

Epstein was a CIA asset. That is who we have been at war with for decades, our own duplicitous government that has put us in bad places. He also worked for foreign intel organizations. He likely did a lot of very shady shit on behalf of our government and others that would be very damaging if released.

But he's dead. Maxwell is in prison.

What happened to those girls was horrific. How would it get any better for them, not us, but them, if this kept going on?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:45 AM (viF8m)

361 358
Venus is rotating too damn slow, and backwards.

You get younger every day.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 13, 2025 12:41 AM
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Elon, how 'bout a switch. Mars = meh. Let's go for Venus.

Posted by: 29 yr old AoS Crew at July 13, 2025 12:45 AM (LVaYG)

362 A solar day on Venus works about to be about 116 earth days, about half of the Venusian year.

When's your birthday? Today or tomorrow?

Posted by: mikeski likes the simplicity of that at July 13, 2025 12:49 AM (DgGvY)

363 And Venus doesn't have intrinsic field either. But the think atmosphere has an induced field due to the solar wind. This would also be a problem if we blew away the thick atmosphere for an earth-like one.
Posted by: publius

Meanwhile, we can dig that Venus rhymes with penis.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 12:49 AM (NXz8h)

364 You aren't wrong.
The TH350 would be temporary until the 700r4.
I would rather have a 2004r, but they seem hard to find in an affordable non-rebuilt state.
That is for the GM car.
Controlling a 4L80E in a vehicle from the 60's requires additional doohickeys and will require other modifications to the vehicle or driveline which I'd like to avoid.
This is for an F100 that would not see a lot of use.
Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 12:38 AM (elaR+)

The 200-4R is a fairly close-ratio box, with low gear closer to second than the 700R4, and an overdrive that's not so tall. (IIRC) I have an Avanti that has had a McKinnon 283 transplanted into it (same as Chevy 283, but built at the McKinnon engine plant in Ontario, and sold to Studebaker to be used in '65 and '66 cars). It currently runs a TH350, which has a bad converter drain-back problem. Otherwise it drives fine. And the car has the wrong rear axle in it, a Dana 27, which is mos' too light, as the song goes. I have a rebuilt 700R4 on the floor of the shop, and also a proper Dana 44 rear axle for the Avanti, with the sway bar and traction bar brackets on it. And it's a 3.73 ratio, which should work fine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 12:51 AM (5djiY)

365 ===============

It's "the issue is closed" that's troublesome. Does he mean they've got it wrapped up behind the scenes, or does he mean that some number of abused girls aren't going to get justice because we're dropping it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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He means, Daddy told you to go to your room, shut the door, turn out the light and go to bed.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:51 AM (zH8im)

366
Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.

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It would be nice if Trump would say something like that to us. Something that acknowledges the victims and assures us that a moral outrage isn't being dropped for the sake of convenience.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:51 AM (9pzfg)

367 >>>Your guess is as good as mine. But what makes anyone think all those girls want to testify instead of moving on with their lives? When Epstein was tried in Florida there were only about 6 girls willing to testify.
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And how many of them were CIA assets?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:54 AM (zH8im)

368 Probably going to bed too early but not getting much sleep anyway.
Have a good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 13, 2025 12:56 AM (+qU29)

369 Trump doesn't do things for convenience.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 12:57 AM (zH8im)

370 >>Of course it's a distraction *to the discussion we are having*.

It's the discussion you are having.

You pretend you are all about children but only the ones you want to talk about.

What happened to Epstein's victims year ago was tragic. Nothing is going to change it. Not even you.

There were about 100 of them that our government allowed to be abused. In the prior 4 years, Biden allowed 300,000 children to be abused and rescuing as many of them seems to be Trump's focus.

He's never ignored Epstein. When Epstein was arrested in Florida years ago Trump was one of the only people to come forward to testify against him. Look it up. I trust Kash, he says Epstein killed himself despite the conspiracy theories. Is he lying too?

What exactly do you think you are going to learn about Epstein? That he was CIA? That he also worked for foreign governments? That he was a pervert and Bill Clinton, the guy Epstein had a painting of in a blue dress in his home, was a visitor? We know all that.

I'm a lot more interested in gutting future commies rather than ones who are already dead.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 12:57 AM (viF8m)

371
He means, Daddy told you to go to your room, shut the door, turn out the light and go to bed.

Posted by: Braenyard

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That's what I heard, too.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 12:58 AM (9pzfg)

372 Epstein was a CIA asset. That is who we have been at war with for decades, our own duplicitous government that has put us in bad places. He also worked for foreign intel organizations. He likely did a lot of very shady shit on behalf of our government and others that would be very damaging if released.
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It would be very damaging to people and organizations (like the CIA) which very much deserve and need to be damaged for the good of essentially everyone else.

Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 01:01 AM (zLwRl)

373 The 200-4R is a fairly close-ratio box, with low gear closer to second than the 700R4, and an overdrive that's not so tall. (IIRC) I have an Avanti that has had a McKinnon 283 transplanted into it (same as Chevy 283, but built at the McKinnon engine plant in Ontario, and sold to Studebaker to be used in '65 and '66 cars). It currently runs a TH350, which has a bad converter drain-back problem. Otherwise it drives fine. And the car has the wrong rear axle in it, a Dana 27, which is mos' too light, as the song goes. I have a rebuilt 700R4 on the floor of the shop, and also a proper Dana 44 rear axle for the Avanti, with the sway bar and traction bar brackets on it. And it's a 3.73 ratio, which should work fine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Avanti. There's a name you dont hear a lot these days.

A number of the Buick Grand National Guys and even non Buick GN guys say go with a 2004r for the reasons you mentioned.
Buuuuuut, I probably won't have 3k anytime soon to buy said transmission.
So used /rebuilt TH350 to start.
Baby steps and maybe I'll have the project done while I'm still allowed to drive.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 01:04 AM (elaR+)

374 Megyn Kelly on Dershowitz and Virginia Giuffre:

We know Allan very well. We covered very very closely Virginia [Virginia Giuffre] Grey's sic accusations against him. He came on the show when it was in its infancy and we did a very deep dive into all of it. Allan has been totally exonerated on those accusations.

He disproved this woman's accusations with actual receipts and plane tickets and so on. None of it held up and ultimately, not surprisingly, she withdrew her suit against him and confessed she may have confused him with someone else, which is the best you're going to get as a guy who gets accused in these cases falsely.
_Megyn Kelly

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:07 AM (zH8im)

375 I was watching YouTube videos about crazy news out of China. Some kindergarten was using lead-based paint or lead-based pigments to make the food more colorful being feed to the kids. Apparently, This was being used to demonstrate to the parents how great everything was at this school. Until the kids started getting sick.

Eventually the parents started figuring out the school was killing their kids with lead poisoning. Being Chicom land, the authorities couldn't have a scandal so they tried to cover it up by forcing a local hospital to issue fake test results when parents brought their kids to be checked for lead poisoning.

I do have to say the food in the brochures was rather colorful.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 13, 2025 01:07 AM (NXz8h)

376 >>It would be very damaging to people and organizations (like the CIA) which very much deserve and need to be damaged for the good of essentially everyone else.

>>Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.

Of course. But sometimes the mines you set off don't just hurt the enemy.

Trump is now the President of the United States. He owns everything that this country has done, good and bad. And he's a deal maker.

When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:07 AM (viF8m)

377 Well, I am done for the night. Be well, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 13, 2025 01:12 AM (5djiY)

378 G'night, AOP.

Posted by: 29 yr old AoS Crew at July 13, 2025 01:13 AM (LVaYG)

379 Off young feller sock. Damnit.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 01:14 AM (LVaYG)

380 >>>Which would be consistent with Trump's campaign ad which stated his intent to obliterate the Deep State.
Posted by: Methos
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This is the art of war. Sometimes one loses a battle. Takes the loss and moves to a better position. It would be good for these crooks to be exposed. However, maybe they will be exposed in a more practical/no so mysterious way.

Trump in no way has given up on draining the swamp. Bank on it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:14 AM (zH8im)

381 Have a good night, AOP.

Posted by: Erebus- Ex Killer Whale at July 13, 2025 01:16 AM (elaR+)

382 Trump in no way has given up on draining the swamp. Bank on it.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:14 AM (zH8im)
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I agree. This place is more dialed in than most, but isn't fully read in. There is some jiu jitsu going on that is not making it to the public. He is moving fast.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 01:17 AM (LVaYG)

383 It got very little coverage in our media, of course, but around the time the idiotic war in Ukraine started Putin sent troops into Kazakhstan to put down what was called a "grassroots uprising". It was a color revolution and at the time Putin said he would not permit any more color revolutions in former Soviet states. This was after he watched the CIA take down Ukraine.

Does anyone really believe that an intel agent like Epstein wasn't known by every foreign government around the world or is just us morons on a blog who have noticed?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:18 AM (viF8m)

384 Does anyone really believe that an intel agent like Epstein wasn't known by every foreign government around the world or is just us morons on a blog who have noticed?
Posted by: JackStraw

Considering he was supposedly the bagman for an arms dealer, not really.

Dumber question; if they played footsie with him, and he got caught, why wouldn't every single piece of kompromat have been erased? I mean were talking super-sneaky uber spies, right?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 13, 2025 01:22 AM (mlg/3)

385 >>Considering he was supposedly the bagman for an arms dealer, not really.

He worked for Adnan Khashoggi during Reagan's arms for hostage deal.

A lot of uncomfortable truths will come out the deeper people dig on this.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:25 AM (viF8m)

386 Of course. But sometimes the mines you set off don't just hurt the enemy.
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Name one person who could be implicated as an Epstein client or handler who's worth keeping the secret over. I can't think of anyone.
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When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?
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What gold card are you thinking of here? Someone else upthread suggested Trump can now use the blackmail material to his advantage, but I don't want to attribute that to you if you don't agree with it.

I have to wonder though, what value is that blackmail material any more? Having officially declared there's no there there with Epstein island, you can't release one incriminating video that's sourced from it, because then you're the villain sitting on all that shit.

Posted by: Methos at July 13, 2025 01:27 AM (zLwRl)

387 Pretty quiet, except for the 8 billion frogs outside.
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One of my favorite sounds - frogs at night.

Good evening all - very entertaining ONT - thank you to our hosts.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 01:28 AM (PcTds)

388 Thanks Horde. Have a good night/morn. No JQ, no Miklos to lock the place up tonight. Avoid late night texting and caffeine.

Posted by: scampydog at July 13, 2025 01:30 AM (LVaYG)

389 >>>@paulsperry_ 5h

Alex Soros has funneled $24 mil to the NYC mayoral campaign of Muslim Zohran Mamdani thru his fundraising arm Working Families,which means Soros' wife HUMA ABEDIN,whose parents are Muslim Brotherhood, "will control the mayor of NY," a lawyer investigating Abedin told me

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:31 AM (zH8im)

390 388 Thanks Horde. Have a good night/morn. No JQ, no Miklos to lock the place up tonight. Avoid late night texting and caffeine.
Posted by: scampydog
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We've been jilted.
Morticia's out there but I think she's distracted.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 13, 2025 01:35 AM (zH8im)

391
Alex Soros has funneled $24 mil to the NYC mayoral campaign of Muslim Zohran Mamdani thru his fundraising arm Working Families,which means Soros' wife HUMA ABEDIN,whose parents are Muslim Brotherhood, "will control the mayor of NY," a lawyer investigating Abedin told me

Posted by: Braenyard

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Sperry may be taking an extra, unnecessary step there. The Muslim Brotherhood is Sunni, while Mamdani would be Shi'i. Those two are traditionally as hostile to each other as each is to Jews. 'Soros has thrown in his lot with Mamdani' is where I'd cut off the paper trail. It's bad enough.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:38 AM (9pzfg)

392 >>I have to wonder though, what value is that blackmail material any more? Having officially declared there's no there there with Epstein island, you can't release one incriminating video that's sourced from it, because then you're the villain sitting on all that shit.

I don't think it's blackmail at all. It's about removing pieces.

Epstein was a scumbag from previous administrations. There is no excusing what he did or more importantly what our government either sanctioned or allowed him to do.

Trump is trying to right this country after years of the insane clown party running it. His biggest negotiating hammer is our economy and moral high ground. Kind of hard to argue the latter when Epstein in the news everday.

The DOJ under Bondi is arresting child predators every single day. Go on X and you will see it. No serious person can claim Trump is soft of this issue. Epstein was a spook and he worked for the feds. That's the difference.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:38 AM (viF8m)

393 When you are making a deal, do you want to be the guy holding the shit sandwich or the gold card?

By that logic, no president will ever expose the CIA. Or any other organization whose exposure will give the US a black eye.

No thanks. Its not just fine to cover this up simply because now its Trump in office.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 13, 2025 01:39 AM (1GlUt)

394
Morticia's out there but I think she's distracted.
Posted by: Braenyard

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I was loading the dishwasher.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 13, 2025 01:40 AM (9pzfg)

395 Item: "Delectables", a tuna/shrimp treat paste stuff. They go crazy over that stuff. And this little cat has paste timer.

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Our cats loved those treats.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 13, 2025 01:41 AM (PcTds)

396 >>By that logic

Hey Scogg, did you know that Epstein is dead?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:43 AM (viF8m)

397 Just so people know, Foghat for a while now has basically been a tribute band that owns the rights to the name. The only original member is the drummer, the singer and slide guitar player that made them Foghat are both dead.

Posted by: azjaeger at July 13, 2025 01:43 AM (3/XaG)

398 Also, pro wrestling is fake and incredibly gay.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 13, 2025 01:44 AM (viF8m)

Saturday Evening Movie Thread [moviegique]: The Return of the Living Dead

It was another good fortnight-and-a-half at 'casa 'gique, starting with the indie/arty/actorly Everything's Going To Be Great, where a theater kid born into a theater family struggles with convincing people he's heterosexual and ultimately learns he's not the center of the universe, and ending with the taut Persian thriller Tatami, about a Persian judoku who is doing well in a competition, so the Iranian government calls up and tells her to fake an injury—because she might have to go up against an Israeli and they have to boycott Zionists and since they can't, they have to pretend they're not, and, my God, what a bunch of whiny-ass bitches running that country.

We bookended this with two '90s(ish) movies, Shall we Dance? and In The Mood For Love from Japan and China respectively.

And what was between the bookends? The glorious year of 1984(ish). We started with Tsui Hark's Shanghai Blues, went to a double-feature of Return of the Living Dead and Repo Man, then followed up with the 40(ish) anniversary of This Is Spinal Tap.

With the exception of Tap, none of these '80s films are (generally) regarded as classics—more cult classics, than anything. Shanghai Blues strikes me as under-rated: It's a romcom, almost a screwball comedy with a kind of kung-fu sensibility to the physical humor (think a less frenetic, less violent Jackie Chan). It, like the other three movies, has a surprisingly light, almost casual regard for things which would be ponderously heavy today. These films touch lightly on promiscuity, homelessness, pedophilia, assault, sexual assault, dismemberment, PTSD, death—in ways you really can't anymore.

I gots things to say about all of 'em, but tonight, let's just talk about the movie Simon Pegg called "a piss take" on the zombie genre.

Standard first level opponents of an '80s side-scroller fighting game.

Back From The Dead—And Ready To Party

George Romero and John Russo had different ideas about how to proceed with their unexpectedly successful flick, Night of the Living Dead. They decided to go their separate ways, distinguishing their products with "...of the Dead" (Romero) and "...of the Living Dead" (Russo). Richard P. Rubinstein (Romero's producer on Dawn of the Dead) actually tried to get the "Living Dead" removed anyway but since Russo had co-written NotLD, the WGA sided with him.

Russo did the novelization of the '68 movie and wrote a follow-up novel called Return of the Living Dead which served as the basis for the first screenplay. He hired Dan O'Bannon (scriptwriter of Alien, Blue Thunder, Total Recall and many more) to write and direct, and O'Bannon rejected the original script for seeming too much like a continuation of Romero's work (the third installation of which would beat this to theaters by about a month in the summer of '85).

So, O'Bannon created a world where Night of the Living Dead had been a documentary—an exposé of an army snafu that had resulted in zombies, and Romero had been forced to make changes to various elements to cover up the truth.

This serves as a springboard for a lot of the movie's comedy.

And this is a funny movie.

Jewel Shepard (Casey) turned down the role of Trash, alleging she'd had enough of being naked. She also alleges that the movie would've gotten an X if she'd done the movie since Linnea Quigley had "nothing much sexual about her". (Quigley got her start in 1978's softcore "Fairy Tales", so Shepherd's opinion was not widely shared.)

Freddie goes to his new job at the UNEEDA Medical Supply company and his supervisor Frank is there to show him the ropes—possibly the dumbest categorization system ever—and Frank gets to talking about how NotLD was a real thing and he knows this because the barrels containing trioxin—the substance that animates the dead—is down in the basement.

The barrel contains the gas and a corpse (later nicknamed "Tarman") and wouldn't you know it, Frank smacks the barrel confidently only to release the gas and animate all the little bits and bobs in the warehouse. Including the pinned butterflies and bisected dogs.

They call their boss Burt for help, and a number of gags ensue where they try to follow the NotLD formula, only to discover it doesn't work. The zombies aren't slow, they aren't dumb, they're just dead—and hungry.

Burt gets the idea of going next door to Resurrection Mortuary and asking Ernie if they can borrow his ovens. (Yes, Burt and Ernie.) They destroy the animated bits and pieces by burning it.

And the ash goes into the air, rain comes down and floods the nearby cemetery with trioxin.

Burt (Clu Gulager), Frank (James Karen), and Freddie (Thom Mathews). Dan O'Bannon wanted Leslie Nielsen for Burt.

Stereotyping

Freddie's friends are hanging out in the cemetery waiting for him (because apparently he always knows where the party is), and they're a melange of '80s stereotypes: Freddie's girlfriend is (inexplicably) a preppy. There's a party girl, a suit guy, a death metal guy, a slutty punk girl, and so on. They're slight exaggerations of the types, perhaps, but in real life, they didn't hang out together, generally.

They're fodder, amusingly. The movie is powered by the three old guys.

Even as fodder, though, they have a more real feeling than most main characters in modern flicks. None of them like the death metal guy, Suicide, who bitches that they only call him when they need a ride. When Trash (slutty punk girl) is throwing herself at him in the cemetery, he throws her off saying "Have some respect for the dead."

This is after expressing her sexual frustration by stripping her clothes off and dancing naked on the tombstone, in an iconic scene for Linnea Quigley.

The tone is much like that of Evil Dead 2 in that it's very comical in parts, and very horrifying in others. There are a lot of subtle gags, too, like an eye chart that reads "Burt is a slave driver and a cheap son of a bitch who's going bald", or the pictures of Eva Braun and Hitler up in Ernie's mortuary. (How did Ernie get so good at running a crematorium oven?)

This is where we learn it hurts to be dead, and only the brains of the living helps.

Legacy and Nostalgia

RotLD is a very entertaining movie even today, but it didn't have much of an impact. The sequel, by Ken Wiederhorn (Meatballs Part II, Shock Waves) is an odd remake of the original, with members of the original cast back in new roles. Brian Yuzna (Society, Re-Animator) directed the third installment, and it has a cult following, but it's completely serious. Grim, even.

Zombies went back to their slow-moving unintelligent selves. I don't think this movie actually introduced the brain-eating-zombie trope but I can't prove it. (I also don't think "I'm here to kick ass and chew gum" was original to Roddy Piper but I can't prove that.) And, for the record, Messiah of Evil had running (well-dressed) undead years earlier.

So it just stands as a good, fun horror comedy.

We saw this, as mentioned, as a double-feature with Repo Man at Quentin Tarantino's New Beverly Theater which actually uses a project to project 35mm prints in all their glories (and flaws). Lately, I've been overwhelmed by how much better films look than digital—like, even a trashy older film shot on film creates an effect that is largely absent from digital.

But I didn't think showing them from a print on a projector was such a big deal. It struck me as the same pretentiousness seen in people who insist on playing vinyl records. (I'm not one of those "Nobody can hear the difference" because I wouldn't presume. I'm more "The people who are claiming to hear the different largely aren't.")

Well, color me pretentious, because I felt the projection on these (low-budget, throwaway!) old movies really added something to the viewing experience—scratches and all, because there are scratches on the RotLD print.

The New Beverly also leads with contemporary trailers and ads, which made the whole experience a lot like going to the theater 40 years ago. Down to the guy in front of me in the packed theater being a foot taller and having an enormous head!

I've never been a big nostalgia guy but, wow, what a time machine.

Do You Wanna Party?

In sum, old movies are better. Or they may not be better but they are definitely a safer bet, when you realize how cultural filters work.

But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.

"Send more paramedics."

Posted by: Open Blogger at 07:44 PM

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1 Time machine

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)

2 It's astounding.

Time is fleeting.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (asXVI)

3 Arf!

Posted by: Sandy at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (BK31K)

4 Back in a few minutes. I'm watching the RedLetterMedia guys' take on the new Superman movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 07:35 PM (kpS4V)

5 Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:42 PM (VofaG)

6 Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (asXVI)

7 RotLD
Seen it in the theater. Never seen it replayed anywhere.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (/lPRQ)

8 I don't like slow zombies or fast zombies. I like regular speed zombies. But if I had to choose it would be slow zombies, Fast zombies are just another kind monster instead of a come back from the dead Human.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (VofaG)

9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

10 Leslie Nielsen just came out supporting Trump positions. I knew I liked for some reason.
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That's unusual, since the dead usually support Democrats.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (asXVI)M

Hah who am I thinking of. I have to find the article. I just saw a headline with his photo,

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (VofaG)

11 LOL, I'm watching James Gunn babble on about interconnected comic book arcs, and with his spiky white hair and manic patter, he's like some sort of cocaine imp come to life.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (kpS4V)

12 It's either Maltese Falcon or Top Gun at 8pm

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (+qU29)

13 Repo Man is a great, great movie. God Bless Harry Dean Stanton!

Posted by: SuperExMayorSuperRonNirenberg-Term Limited, But Still Buff at July 12, 2025 07:50 PM (/8/Rh)

14 Okay . It was the Naked Gun director. Never just read the headlines.

That said I didn't remember that Nielsen died in 2010.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:51 PM (VofaG)

15 80s horror was different. 70s was more dour or downright nihilistic. 80s had a tendency to have some element of humor.

One could argue about the overall tone and feel of the country during those decades as having an influence.

But both decades were both much more likely to have naked women in movies than our current weird culture. Movies are puritanical, but porn/only fans is soaking everything. It's weird.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

16 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

Not looking... day or dawn?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (zZu0s)

17 I love Repo Man.
The scene with generic food cracks me up.
I remember stocking shelves in those brown on brown generics.
That job sucked.

Posted by: Beaver at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (KVlfh)

18 MOAR BRAINS!

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (jGGMD)

19 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd

Dawn of the Dead. One of the Romeros.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 12, 2025 07:54 PM (ftFVW)

20 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

That would be Dawn of the Dead, aka my personal introduction to the genre.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (jGGMD)

21 MOAR BRAINS!
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:53 PM (jGGMD)

The great snippet from the Simpsons Halloween special (one of) where a zombie mumbling brains seizes Homer's head, sniffs it, knocks on it, then moves on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (zZu0s)

22 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

23 70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

First Halloween. Shining was 70s too right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)

24 The 80's were all Stephen King😀
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

The '70s had "Carrie" and "The Shining" (which, for purposes of being pedantic, I'm saying 1980 is "the '70s").

The '80s had swaths of crap movies based on the works of Stephen King, but there were also good movies. The ones NOT based on the works of Stephen King. And "Stand By Me".

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 07:57 PM (asXVI)

25 70's had the Exorcist. The 80's were all Stephen King😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (VofaG)

The only '80s Stephen King movie (a movie that King had actual control over, that is) that I really liked was Maximum Overdrive. Pet Sematery is a distant second, and even it's not that good a movie in my opinion.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (jGGMD)

26 "That would be Dawn of the Dead, aka my personal introduction to the genre.
Posted by: Dr. T "

Me too. Saw it at a drive-in.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (vFG9F)

27 Texas Chainsaw massacre. There were also a lot of odd, exploitation/torture porn movies in there I have successfully avoided.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:58 PM (zZu0s)

28 >>>The '70s had "Carrie" and "The Shining" (which, for purposes of being pedantic, I'm saying 1980 is "the '70s").

Oh, you're one of *those* people.

But Carter was still president in 1980, so...close enough.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:00 PM (jGGMD)

29 First Halloween. Shining was 70s too right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:56 PM (zZu0s)

1980

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:01 PM (VofaG)

30 Arf!
Posted by: Sandy at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (BK31K)

Shut up, Sandy!

Posted by: Daddy Warbucks at July 12, 2025 08:01 PM (/HDaX)

31 I saw Motel Hell at that same drive-in theater. Along with Kentucky Fried Movie and Groove Tube.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (vFG9F)

32 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (VofaG)

33 Thx moviegique. Any year that produced Spinal Tap and Repo Man has got a lot going for it. I was in college and saw both at the low budget Spectrum Theater in Albany. Always had good offbeat movies

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (ZZv2M)

34 Is this the movie were the old guy, I guess it's Frank. crawls into the crematory oven when he knows he's infected?

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:04 PM (ptgc5)

35 Standard first level opponents of an '80s side-scroller fighting game.

Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.

Posted by: Genre-savvy 80's fighting game hero at July 12, 2025 08:05 PM (DgGvY)

36 RotLD is funny.
Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (3wi/L)

37 Haven't watched either RotLD or Repo Man in eons, but they were both a hell of a lot of fun. The generic food cans bit cracks me up too.

Occasionally look at the web page for the New Beverly, just to torture myself, as there's no way I'll be making a trip there, and if it was in my town, I'd bankrupt myself in the place.

From high school days in Chicago, I recall hitting the Clark Theater a few times during summer vacations. The Clark ran lots of old movies and changed its lineup every day if memory serves.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (q3u5l)

38 Now that I no longer have cable and stream everything on the free services I found that a lot of A listers have a lot of crap movies. Lot of movies to choose from but it's like one good movie for every 30 offered.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (VofaG)

39 Tonight's Movie Roulette selection:

Avengers: Age of Ultron

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (IBQGV)

40 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
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The argument goes there was no year zero, so counting decades goes 1-10, 11-20, 21-30, 31-40...

You are allowed by most conventions (Geneva, U.N., Comicon) to punch people who make this argument, however.

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Thx moviegique. Any year that produced Spinal Tap and Repo Man has got a lot going for it. I was in college and saw both at the low budget Spectrum Theater in Albany. Always had good offbeat movies
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The big year for "quirky" was 1986. In 1985 there were something like 60-70 movies released. In 1986, there were over 200. (Now it's more like 800.)

The jump from 1985-1986 is the impact of the videocassette (for you nearly 29-year-olds who have heard but never seen such artifacts).

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:07 PM (asXVI)

41 I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)

42 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.

There are many people colored pretentious who start counting at 1, and so decades will include 10. I.e., the Eighties would be 1981 to 1990. Because there is no year zero, which means the first decade is years 1 to 10.

I’m inclined to listen to the pedants when they apply this to centuries, because centuries are counting from the start, but decades are about the actual tenths digit. “Eighties” really should mean “years pronounced beginning with “eighty”, and so on.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (EXyHK)

43 I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)
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The shrooms gave you telekinetic powers? Cool!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (IBQGV)

44 My favorite quote segment from Return of the Living Dead? The "discussion" between Frank and Freddie:

Frank: It's the crap from the tanks and the goddamn chemicals, it's all over everything!
Freddy: Stupid asshole!
Frank: Watch your tongue, boy, if you like this job!
Freddy: Like this job!?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:09 PM (/HDaX)

45 Is this the movie were the old guy, I guess it's Frank. crawls into the crematory oven when he knows he's infected?
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Yes, kissing the picture of his wife goodbye.

It's horrible, yet also kind of weirdly funny, in that he's been turning into a zombie for hours at this point.

"What's his temperature?"
"Seventy."
"What's that?"
"Room temperature."

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Kill the one with the ghetto blaster first. It's gotta be a sonic ranged weapon.
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Pre-cheat codes and spoilers!

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (asXVI)

46 1980 wouldn't be in the 80's? Educate me on that pedantic technicality.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:02 PM (VofaG)

I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)

47 The bar band in Repo Man:

Doobity doo wop say what yeah.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 12, 2025 08:11 PM (p16cu)

48 saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (ptgc5)

The jump scare that got me was in Jaws when the dead guy's head popped out of the sunken boat,

I wish it was popcorn but it was my soda that I spilled.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:11 PM (VofaG)

49 Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
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Right? It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding. (Ernie is also "What's in it for me?" when it comes to solving the problem.)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (asXVI)

50 Yes, kissing the picture of his wife goodbye.

Okay, that was what I remember most from the movie, and the idea of having 55gal barrels of zombie juice with some kind of warning label on them.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ptgc5)

51 I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)

52 9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

Wasn't that a Jonathon Coulton song?

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (0aYVJ)

53 and the idea of having 55gal barrels of zombie juice with some kind of warning label on them.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (ptgc5)

Gremlins logic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:13 PM (zZu0s)

54 Occasionally look at the web page for the New Beverly, just to torture myself, as there's no way I'll be making a trip there, and if it was in my town, I'd bankrupt myself in the place.
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Yeah, it's...I mean, they're showing a double-feature of "Gaslight" and "Diabolique" in a couple of weeks. And they remind me so much of the old revival houses, which I lived in, basically.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:13 PM (asXVI)

55 I was late to the party last week and the room was pretty much empty, so I'm just going to mention again that last week's trivia question (what two films released in the '60s didn't get a sequel until the '80s) had a third answer - "2001" and "2010".

There. My work here is done.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (5YmYl)

56 Clu Gulager steals the show for me. He is completely amoral and treats the zombie outbreak that he helped release as just some nuisance business problem to solve.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:06 PM (3wi/L)

Frank: What are we gonna do, Burt?
Burt Wilson: I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'm going to be sued by the Darrow Chemical Company. I might even be investigated by the government. I might become very famous, Frank. I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (/HDaX)

57 Do not take Zombie Juice if you are allergic to Zombie Juice.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (ptgc5)

58 41
'I saw Carrie in the theater on shrooms. I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over. Let's just say popcorn flew all over the place.'

That's hilarious.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (3wi/L)

59 I got up to leave at the end, in the dream sequence, thinking the movie was over.

The first time I watched Carrie it was on a 9-inch or 10-inch black and white television that I’d repaired myself. I was watching it in my bedroom, in bed, because that’s when it was broadcast. I was learning over to turn off the television when that dream turned into a nightmare.

I did not sleep well that night.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:14 PM (EXyHK)

60 I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)
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That's a fair point. I have seen several commentators proclaim that Ironheart is already a dated television series in 2025 because it reflects the times from a few years ago.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)

61 Never watched Carrie. Never appealed to me when it was described.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (zZu0s)

62 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:10 PM (zZu0s)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (EXyHK)

Yes that makes sense .

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (VofaG)

63 But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.
...............................
The Future in NOW!! 😜

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (uGaBv)

64 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)

Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)

65 Never watched Carrie. Never appealed to me when it was described.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM

and now we've spoiled the ending.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ptgc5)

66 Wasn't that a Jonathon Coulton song?

https://youtu.be/BjMiDZIY1bM?si=RZBtpIiG3BVj124Z

Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2025 08:17 PM (/y8xj)

67
*starts to type NO SPOILERS!*

*thinks better of typing NO SPOILERS!*

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:17 PM (ptgc5)

68 51 I think you could definitely argue that 1980 was the last gasp culturally of the 70s.

There is a less pedantic argument in favor of this being generally true for things like movies and books: any movie or book released in 1980 was probably being worked on in some important way in 1979 or even earlier.
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Well, my argument for some time is that while it's convenient to talk about "the '50s" and "the '60s", culturally, the decades ended on the half after WWII.

I mean, 1945-1955 had the Greatest Generation ethos, and 1955-1965 is rock 'n' roll boomers, and 1965-1975 is dominated by the counter culture, Disco may have died in 1979, but Studio 54 was open until the mid-'80s, and the sound and fashion was very congruous until the big hair/big shoulder pad, etc.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (asXVI)

69 and now we've spoiled the ending.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (ptgc5)

Hah!

Usually for movies that i figure i am going to hate, I just look up the synopsis online somewhere.

The only movie I regret even reading the synopsis for was The Serbian Film.

Really guys, just don't.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (zZu0s)

70

NO SPOILERS!!

Posted by: toby928 oh what the hell at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (ptgc5)

71 New Wave killed Disco.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (ptgc5)

72 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:15 PM (IBQGV)

Plus it is also just an amoral shit show in any decade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:16 PM (zZu0s)
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No argument from me on that score.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:20 PM (IBQGV)

73 55 I was late to the party last week and the room was pretty much empty, so I'm just going to mention again that last week's trivia question (what two films released in the '60s didn't get a sequel until the '80s) had a third answer - "2001" and "2010".
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What were the other two?

Hmmm.

The Detective->Die Hard
The Hustler->The Color Of Money

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (asXVI)

74 9 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

****
Dawn of the Dead

Posted by: EFG at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (Ai4Tb)

75 I'm going to recommend a movie with our favorite actor , Pedro Pascal.

The Prospect

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (VofaG)

76 I would love to make a life-size Maltese Falcon

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (+qU29)

77 25: The only '80s Stephen King movie (a movie that King had actual control over, that is) that I really liked was Maximum Overdrive
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Heh! I liked Maximum Overdrive too. Kickass soundtrack! The short story it's based on had a MUCH different ending.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (uGaBv)

78 56
'I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!'

Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)

79 Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:18 PM (asXVI)

Now you’ve got me wanting to watch Dazed and Confused again. Just for the every-other-decade theory.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (EXyHK)

80 And think original Halloween is still a great horror movie

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (+qU29)

81 New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (ptgc5)

Meanwhile, Metal waits in the shadows, tenting it fingers...

soon... soon

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (0aYVJ)

82 "New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928"

I like to think I helped.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:22 PM (vFG9F)

83 Saw Carrie in the theater when it first came out -- waiting in the lobby for the first showing to finish, and heard the audience jump and shriek, so we knew there was going to be a kicker at the finish. We still jumped.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (q3u5l)

84 I might even lose my business. I might even go to jail, goddamn it! That's what I'm gonna do!'

Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (IBQGV)

85 But these '80s kids are punks and slackers. I worry for our future.

*******

We are your future!

Posted by: Class of 1984, an unappreciated movie with Michael J. Fox at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (Ai4Tb)

86 New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928"

Disco killed disco. Disco merely made new wave inevitable.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (D7oie)

87 1941 Maltese Falcon Statue cast in Black Resin $99

https://tinyurl.com/msamdsxv

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:24 PM (ptgc5)

88 Ha, Amazon has them for $9

https://tinyurl.com/29whpcvk

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (ptgc5)

89 Now you’ve got me wanting to watch Dazed and Confused again. Just for the every-other-decade theory.
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Which was ALSO playing at the New Beverly. I haven't seen it, though.

Hey, Just Some Guy, if you want to talk bankrupting yourself watching classic and weird movies?

https://revivalhub.com/

Every week, there are, IDK, maybe a hundred or two showings.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (asXVI)

90 Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.

Ironically enough, he was the only guy with his head on straight while everyone else was panicking.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:26 PM (/HDaX)

91 The timeline of Dazed and Confused was me at 10 years old. Grew up in a small town in Wyoming. I knew guys like Wooderson; my best friend's uncle had a Trans Am that was fucking awesome. The girls were so pretty. The smell of leaded gas permeated the air.

Good times.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:27 PM (0aYVJ)

92 The 10 weight, cast in sand then filled in with lead

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:28 PM (+qU29)

93 Which Living Dead movie was it when they were holed up in a mall?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:49 PM (vFG9F)

Dawn of the Dead, both the 1978 and 2004 versions.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:28 PM (/HDaX)

94 The original Halloween is still a favorite; none of the sequels and none of the reboots come close.

Die Hard as a sequel to The Detective? Roderick Thorp's novels, sure, but they fiddled with the character so much for the movie that I'm not sure you could really call Willis's flick a sequel to the Sinatra. But it's a nice trivia question. Another good trivia question is to name, without looking them up, all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (q3u5l)

95 Dawn of the Dead, both the 1978 and 2004 versions.
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The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.

Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (asXVI)

96 For anyone interested, the new Superman movie is not woke in the least. The movie is, unintentionally I think, actually very conservative. The idea of Superman as an immigrant is present as it has been from the beginning—“strange visitor from another planet” and all—but the movie is much more interested in showing that Superman is a good man because of his upbringing by the Kents. No cheap shots at conservatives here either. If you like the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM (tgTrV)

97 The timeline of Dazed and Confused was me at 10 years old.

I started high school at right about that time. The movie was amazingly on target. And that includes the music, which apparently Linklater had to fight for, literally writing a letter to the band that was going to do covers for the movie and ask them to back out (which they did).

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM (EXyHK)

98 Die Hard as a sequel to The Detective? Roderick Thorp's novels, sure, but they fiddled with the character so much for the movie that I'm not sure you could really call Willis's flick a sequel to the Sinatra
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It wasn't my trivia question so that may not be the answer. But those were the only other two movies I could think of that were made in the '60s but got sequels in the '80s.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:31 PM (asXVI)

99 Brightburn, which I liked, is Superman, if baby Zod was the one who landed in Kansas.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:32 PM (ptgc5)

100 Oh, I have an original, sure-fire idea, let's do another ORIGIN STORY! Everyone loves an origin story, and we can re-introduce the world to this character that everyone knows! Maybe we can, I dunno, make it into a series or something.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:32 PM (D7oie)

101 I kind of love the idea of Frank Sinatra in a 60s era Die Hard.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:33 PM (tgTrV)

102 The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.

Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.

Hey, I liked that one too.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (/HDaX)

103 I saw that movie! One time, in the theater, when I was a kid. Linnea Quigley's dance and "the pain of being dead".

I was naive to horror movies at the time, and I didn't get the comedy. Might have to go for a re-watch.

I've watch Repo Man more times than I can remember. I spend my life getting into tense situations.

Posted by: Bombadil at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (MX0bI)

104 One of the things I liked about the new Superman is that it is not an origin story but jumps right into the story after Superman is already established in Metropolis.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 08:35 PM (tgTrV)

105 They're not fast zombies, or slow zombies. They're half-fast zombies.

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:35 PM (i0F8b)

106 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)

107 The movie that brought us Zack Snyder.

Em. Sorry, didn't mean to bring the room down.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:29 PM (asXVI)

300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.

And the weird Persian shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (Yamow)

108 I kind of love the idea of Frank Sinatra in a 60s era Die Hard.
Posted by: Open Channel

You must have missed "Von Ryan's Express".

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (cYBz/)

109 Momma don't 'llow no halfas zombies 'round hea.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (vFG9F)

110 ... until the big hair/big shoulder pad, etc.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)

Looking at mid-80's yearbooks. Woof.
No likey big hair and the girls went all out.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (/lPRQ)

111 49
'It kind of makes sense that he's friends with Don Calfa (Ernie) even though Calfa is a Nazi in hiding.'

Ha! I just checked that character's name in the cast. He's named Ernie Kaltenbrunner. Those of you who are WWII buffs might recognize that as the name of an SS Nazi war criminal.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:37 PM (3wi/L)

112 Revival Hub looks like something else that would bankrupt me if I were unlucky enough to live in the same city. Fortunately, I make do with the streaming services. And that Revival Hub schedule -- Good God, a theater showing The Tall Target? How did they pick up on that one? And I'd be one of the first in line -- haven't seen that flick in I don't know when.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (q3u5l)

113 Red Son

[A] decade later, in 1955, the Soviet government releases a propaganda film of an alien superhuman under the command of Joseph Stalin, dubbed the "Soviet Superman". U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower tasks Lex Luthor to develop a countermeasure against him. Meanwhile, in an action planned by Luthor, Superman prevents a satellite from crashing into Metropolis, leading to Luthor's wife, Lois Lane, securing an interview with him. She shows him a top-secret document that leads Superman to a secret gulag shielded by lead. There he meets a young boy surrounded by bats, and a dying Svetlana, who was imprisoned there by Stalin because she knew his real identity. Enraged, Superman confronts and kills Stalin. As a result, he becomes the new leader of the Soviet Union, pledging to use his powers for good and to spread the influence of the Soviet state.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (D7oie)

114 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)

Saw about half of it. Caught it on prime but have not gone back to it. Reminded me of a 90s movie where the kid catches a bullet for a girl and comes back as a zombie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (Yamow)

115 But both decades were both much more likely to have naked women in movies than our current weird culture. Movies are puritanical, but porn/only fans is soaking everything. It's weird.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (zZu0s)

Out of all the things I couldn’t have imagined, I never could have dreamed of a world where teenagers were scared of sex.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:39 PM (Hlfhp)

116 My boyfriends back?

Movie had an oddly 50ish theme to it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:41 PM (Yamow)

117 Hey, I liked that one too.
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I actually thought Snyder did a good job on the "Dawn" remake. It's nowhere near the '70s movie, but under the circumstances probably the best we could do.

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300 would be a near perfect movie without the coerced rape scene.
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Yeah.

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Warm Bodies
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Cute flick. I want to say it was Nicholas Hoult's "transition" movie from child to adult actor.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:41 PM (asXVI)

118 I've watch Repo Man more times than I can remember. I spend my life getting into tense situations.
Posted by: Bombadil at July 12, 2025 08:34 PM (MX0bI)

"Look at those assholes, ordinary fucking people. I hate 'em."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:42 PM (/HDaX)

119 Oh, I have an original, sure-fire idea, let's do another ORIGIN STORY! Everyone loves an origin story, and we can re-introduce the world to this character that everyone knows! Maybe we can, I dunno, make it into a series or something.
Posted by: Kindltot

But Batman will be darker and edgier than the last nine Batman origin stories. And the Joker will be darker and crazier. We'll print money.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 08:43 PM (DgGvY)

120 94
'all the actors who played the 1960 Magnificent Seven.'

Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn,...

That's as close as I can get.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (3wi/L)

121 Emerald Twilight WOULD be a great comic story to turn into a movie. BUT. Nope.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (Yamow)

122 But Batman will be darker and edgier than the last nine Batman origin stories. And the Joker will be darker and crazier. We'll print money.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 08:43 PM

How about if Batman was the villain? Running the Gotham underworld from his lair, or Bat Cave, if you will.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (ptgc5)

123 Oh, the 10th episode of Murderbot is available. BBL. And that damn quick as each episode is only about 20 minutes long.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (ptgc5)

124 Horst Buchholz and Brad Dexter are the remaining Seven.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (/HDaX)

125 There was a movie (speaking of random, low budget trash) that had vampires shooting wooden bullets at each other. David Carradine. I only saw it once when I was maybe 16. I remember boobs. And Ash from evil dead as a descendant of van helsing?

Sunset something.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (Yamow)

126 I graduated high school in ‘77, my graduation was dazed and confused all the way. Geeks and Freaks was always very familiar terrritory for me.

I remember i kind of wanted to be with the freaks, but since I was good at chemistry and all the teachers liked me i always fell on the geek side of the line.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (Hlfhp)

127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)

128 127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)

But save it for a twist at the end.

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (i0F8b)

129 Snyder's Dawn of the Dead remake wasn't too shabby. I could have done without zombie newborn, which looked too fake to put up with, but on the whole the flick wasn't a bad zombie flick at all.

The remake of Night of the Living Dead wasn't bad either. Savini directing, Tony Todd and Patricia Tallman as leads with Tallman just girl-boss enough to be plausible without being overbearing. Good stuff. (And why Tallman didn't get lots of leading parts in movies after that is beyond me.)

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (q3u5l)

130 Robin was circus folk, IIRC.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:48 PM (ptgc5)

131 124
'Horst Buchholz and Brad Dexter are the remaining Seven.'

I wouldn't have thought of those if given a hundred years.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:49 PM (3wi/L)

132 Sunset something.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:46 PM (Yamow)

Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)

133 a theater showing The Tall Target? How did they pick up on that one? And I'd be one of the first in line -- haven't seen that flick in I don't know when.
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Their whole schedule is bonkers. All over the map. Moviegoing delirium.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (asXVI)

134 Yul Brynner, Steve McQueen, Charles Bronson, Robert Vaughn, James Coburn,...

That's as close as I can get.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (3wi/L)

The Kid and the Other Guy are kind of forgettable.

But perhaps the best actor of all is Eli Wallach! I go back and forth on which is better, the American one or Kurosawa’s 7 Samurai. I mostly like the original better, but Wallach’s gang leader is a brilliant addition to the story. (The gang leader is never given much personality in the original)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (Hlfhp)

135 The 80s had that John-Boy Walton Magnificent Seven in space movie.

With Robert Vaughn reprising his role.

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (i0F8b)

136 "Robin was circus folk, IIRC.
Posted by: toby928"

Holy Big Top, Toby! Now it all makes sense!

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (vFG9F)

137 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (+qU29)

138 "Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip"

I think all you have to do is pass thru the tail of a comet.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:53 PM (vFG9F)

139 Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)

That's it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (Yamow)

140 127 How about Robin is the villain because he is jealous of Batman?
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (vFG9F)

Robin is the villain and then Batman backhands him a couple of times and that’s the end of that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (Hlfhp)

141 Buchholz & Dexter --

Very few people think of those two, and a lot of the time somebody will name Eli Wallach, forgetting that he was the bad guy.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:54 PM (q3u5l)

142 Sundown, you better be ware
If I find you’ve been vampirin’ round my back stair

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:55 PM (Hlfhp)

143 The remake of Night of the Living Dead wasn't bad either. Savini directing, Tony Todd and Patricia Tallman as leads with Tallman just girl-boss enough to be plausible without being overbearing. Good stuff. (And why Tallman didn't get lots of leading parts in movies after that is beyond me.)
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It's astonishingly good. Different enough from the original to be interesting, not compulsively modern (for 1990).

I always liked Tallman, too, but maybe she preferred being a stuntwoman.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:56 PM (asXVI)

144 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 08:47 PM (Hlfhp)

The main kid, Sam, in Freaks and Geeks, was literally the same age as me in 1981. But Sam was way more cool than I ever was. The show, though, was pretty much a documentary of my life as a teenager. Sam's parents were my parents.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (0aYVJ)

145 "Invaders From Mars" is on Svengoolie. The perspective is weird for this entire movie.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (vFG9F)

146 I'm back and forth on Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven too. The first one I saw was Magnificent Seven, in the theater when I was 11. Don't know how many times I've seen it since, and enjoyed it every time. The remake -- feh.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 08:57 PM (q3u5l)

147 Looks like Superman will do pretty good bidness this weekend. They’re learning to sidestep get woke go broke. Anti-American movies can still make money if marketed right.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 08:58 PM (ImXfC)

148 139 Did some digging and I think "Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat" (1989) is your movie.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:52 PM (/HDaX)

That's it.
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IMDB says no boobs, though.

Scanning for them now...

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 08:58 PM (asXVI)

149 How about if Batman was the villain? Running the Gotham underworld from his lair, or Bat Cave, if you will.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:44 PM (ptgc5)

There is a Bizarro World (is that the name for it?) DC comic book where Batman, or some version of him, is the villain, and the Joker (or "Jokester") is a stand-up comic turned underground hero. Or something like that.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)

150 IMDB says no boobs, though.

Scanning for them now...

The preview clip for the movie seems to indicate it's an odd piece of work. I may have to check it out.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (/HDaX)

151 Patricia Tallman was on Babylon 5. Played Lyta Alexander.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (uGaBv)

152 There is a Bizarro World (is that the name for it?) DC comic book where Batman, or some version of him, is the villain, and the Joker (or "Jokester") is a stand-up comic turned underground hero. Or something like that.
Posted by: Dr. T at July 12, 2025 08:59 PM (jGGMD)

In Red Son, Batman is a terrorist.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:00 PM (D7oie)

153 I think Tallman got a lot of television work as well, so there's that. But she was terrific in the NotLD remake, as good (IMHO) as Sigourney Weaver in Alien.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:00 PM (q3u5l)

154 Yeah. That captured it perfectly. People are getting their brains eaten and this bastard's worried about losing his business.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 12, 2025 08:21 PM (3wi/L)
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There's usually one asshole in horror movies that has his priorities mixed up.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 08:23 PM (IBQGV)

Those beaches will be open! And it's gonna be one of the best summers we've ever had!

Posted by: Mayor Vaughn at July 12, 2025 09:01 PM (jGGMD)

155
106 Did any of you watch Warm Bodies? A teenage zombie coming of age movie.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:36 PM (ptgc5)
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A zom rom com. Cute flick.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (kpS4V)

156 One good reason to see Return of the Living dead in 35mm is that they can't change the music. "Dead Beat Dance" from The Damned has been missing from every home video release since the 90's.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (TdCYS)

157 In a show that had some bad acting, Tillman in Babylon 5 was the worst.

I think i remember the garabaldi actor saying in a commentary 'what's with this dialogue?! It's fricking ponderous, man!'

I liked that guy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 09:03 PM (Yamow)

158 The preview clip for the movie seems to indicate it's an odd piece of work. I may have to check it out.

Carrying on from that, Morgan Brittany, Deborah Foreman and Elizabeth Gracen are in it. Alrighty then!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/HDaX)

159 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip

We Are All Dead (korean, netflix)
How it started is pretty much half the series.

Supposed to have a second season... One of these years.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/lPRQ)

160 The oddest Zombie movie I have seen was Valley of the Dead (Spanish MalNazidos), where remnants of Republican irregulars and Nationalist regular units have to combine to survive a German experiment to create a zombie fighting force.
About as well written as any Spanish film, but my goodness, the uniforms, weapons, and period equipment are top notch. Spanish film really cares about Civil War kit.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:05 PM (D7oie)

161 A zom rom com. Cute flick.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

There's also a zombie romance anime (because of course there is) called Sankarea: Undying Love.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 09:05 PM (DgGvY)

162 Carrying on from that, Morgan Brittany, Deborah Foreman and Elizabeth Gracen are in it. Alrighty then!
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:04 PM (/HDaX)

It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 09:06 PM (Yamow)

163 Finally, some movies in my wheelhouse. "You think this is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life."

And Repo Man is one of the greatest movies of all time.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 12, 2025 09:07 PM (MZ+PY)

164 Bitchin'. Sundown's free on Prime right now.

It was odd. I won't spoil the twist ending for a 30 year old b movie.

I appreciate that.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 09:11 PM (/HDaX)

165 I liked Night of the Living Dead and then the much cheesier Dawn of the Dead. The one in the mall.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:11 PM (rJ7Hd)

166 The first part sounds like the life of the renowned musical composer, playwright, actor, dancer, and singer George M. Cohan, enshrined in “Yankee Doodle Dandy” with James Cagney.

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:12 PM (GITLP)

167 ZOM 100

Good Japanese zombie flic and the original animated series are good.
Overworked young business guy is thrilled with the zombie apocalypse because he doesn't have to go to his hellish job anymore.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:13 PM (/lPRQ)

168 "Dead Beat Dance" from The Damned has been missing from every home video release since the 90's.
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Really?! Dang, the music is so integral to both Repo and RotLD.

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"You think this is a fuckin' costume? This is a way of life."
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As Linnea wiggles all over him.

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157 In a show that had some bad acting, Tillman in Babylon 5 was the worst.
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I know it has its fans, and I'm not going to knock it, but I could not bear the acting. I was not able to make it through the first season.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:14 PM (asXVI)

169 My favorite zombie movie is 28 days later. That really flipped the script on the genre.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:15 PM (nyTxL)

170 The Nicholas Brothers featured in the 1943 movie ‘Stormy Weather‘

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:16 PM (GITLP)

171 169 My favorite zombie movie is 28 days later. That really flipped the script on the genre.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:15 PM (nyTxL)

I agree! I’m not a big fan of Zombie movies, but that one was really great .

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:16 PM (Hlfhp)

172 Princess Resurrection might count as a zom-rom-com, too. Though the "zombie" boy gets referred to as "half-immortal," not as a zombie. But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse. The titular princess's magic keeps him animated after he gets himself killed trying to protect her.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (DgGvY)

173 Movie idea. Teenage boy is killed defending his girl from a motorcycle gang. Then he returns as a zombie to seek revenge on the gang. Call it My Boyfriend's Back And You're Gonna Be Sorry.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (L/fGl)

174 But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse.

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Frankenhooker.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:19 PM (L/fGl)

175 I know it has its fans, and I'm not going to knock it, but I could not bear the acting. I was not able to make it through the first season.
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:14 PM (asXVI)

Well that’s too bad - since after Season 1, Staczinsky had to reboot everything when the star of the Show, Michael O’Hare quit for mental reasons, and I think it improved a great deal! Of course I thing the end of Season 4 is the emotional end of the show, and everything after that is anticlimactic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:21 PM (Hlfhp)

176 But a reanimated corpse is a reanimated corpse.

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Frankenhooker.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:19 PM (L/fGl)

Dead Heat.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 09:21 PM (D7oie)

177 The show was much better when boxleitner replaced o hare

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (bXbFr)

178 97 I started high school at right about that time. The movie was amazingly on target. And that includes the music, which apparently Linklater had to fight for, literally writing a letter to the band that was going to do covers for the movie and ask them to back out (which they did).
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 12, 2025 08:30 PM

I believe the setting in the movie was 1976, which was the summer before my senior year in high school. I was dazzled by how perfectly the movie captured that year, right down to the Adidas t-shirts that everyone I knew was wearing. Mine was red and I loved it!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (rbKZ6)

179 Zombieland was fun. The whole rules thing. Double tap! Don't be stingy with the ammo!

I think Woody Harrelson had a lot of fun in that movie.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:22 PM (nyTxL)

180 Joe piscopo horror intro with a weird twist

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (bXbFr)

181 As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)

182 173 Movie idea. Teenage boy is killed defending his girl from a motorcycle gang. Then he returns as a zombie to seek revenge on the gang. Call it My Boyfriend's Back And You're Gonna Be Sorry.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:18 PM (L/fGl

Gonna need a good theme song though. Have to think about that one.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (nyTxL)

183 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip

Two words: Dr. Fauci.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:24 PM (L/fGl)

184 Never caught Babylon 5, really. Saw a few first season episodes and fell off; have thought about giving it another try but haven't gotten around to it. One of these years...

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:25 PM (q3u5l)

185 Well that’s too bad - since after Season 1, Staczinsky had to reboot everything when the star of the Show, Michael O’Hare quit for mental reasons, and I think it improved a great deal!
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From what I saw later, I agreed. And...

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As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
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I think the actors playing the aliens were great. Katsulos and the late Stephen Furst as the Minbari toady. And the Minbari ambassador, too.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:26 PM (asXVI)

186 Sounds like a different version of The Crow

Posted by: jsg at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (KJoyi)

187 Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?

Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (i0F8b)

188 You guys are joking about "My Boyrfiend's Back", right? We all know it's a (not very good) '90s comedy horror, right?

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (asXVI)

189 As to the acting on Babylon 5 - I think Andreas Katsulos had the role of his life as G’Kar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)
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The same could be said of his foil, Peter Jurasik as Londo Mollari.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (IBQGV)

190 Watched F1 Tuesday. I was entertained. It was worth watching and Brad Pitt did a good job. Like the mom said, "he ain't that old!"

Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (5MZNC)

191 187 Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?
Posted by: davidt at July 12, 2025 09:27 PM (i0F8b)

Uncle Zom's Cabin

Posted by: jsg at July 12, 2025 09:28 PM (KJoyi)

192 Would love to see a movie on how a Zombie Apocalypse would start
Posted by: Skip
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World War Z

Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:29 PM (5MZNC)

193 Back from episode 10 of Murderbot. I don't know. This might be the last episode and no season 2. It's not very good and the plot could end right here without any rancor about missed opportunity.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (ptgc5)

194 You guys are joking about "My Boyrfiend's Back", right? We all know it's a (not very good) '90s comedy horror, right?
Posted by: moviegique (buy my books)

I thought I was being original.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (L/fGl)

195 Are there black exploitation zombie movies? Zom-Bays?
Posted by: davidt

They Cloned Tyrone

Not zombies, but clones, and hilarious.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 09:30 PM (/lPRQ)

196
Stephen Furst as the Minbari toady. And the Minbari ambassador, too.

Centauri

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:32 PM (63Dwl)

197 Babylon 5 was a metaphor of the Cold War. Discuss.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:33 PM (ptgc5)

198 Okay, so we've been talking horror comedy here, and there's no love at all for National Lampoon's Class Reunion? Really?

It's like I don't even know you people any more.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:33 PM (q3u5l)

199 Centauri
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Stupid sci-fi writers making up all these alien race na—

Oh, right.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:36 PM (asXVI)

200 I'm watching Little Big Man. I think they borroed from that to write Forrest Gump.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 09:36 PM (VofaG)

201 Funny thing about Stephen Furst: there’s a Rabbi in Tyler, who I know, who is Stephen Furst’s first cousin and who looked exactly like him.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (Hlfhp)

202 Late to the party, but I have a copy of John Russo's "Return of the Living Dead" novel. It was written before the movie, and the movie is nothing like it. Russo's book is basically "Night of the Living Dead Part 2: More of the same."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (CHHv1)

203 Saw Superman - as mentioned this morning, best Superman movie ever done. Best Lex Luthor ever done. The most Kansas-values superhero who literally rejects his homeworld Superman. It's my 1st A grade movie since Top Gun Maverick. It only needed a little better intro and a better Hawkgirl.

Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

204 Stephen Furst had a brilliant sense of timing. He seemed to know exactly when to say his line and how to do so, so that it was perfect.

Babylon 5 fans know his "I would like for your associates, Mr. Morden--" speech, which is brilliant and perfectly delivered.

I offer you another, more compact and again perfectly delivered: "Cats."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 09:39 PM (CHHv1)

205 There's a funny story on YouTubes - complete with funny animation - of the members of Parliament/Funkadelic tripping on LSD late at night after a show in Pittsburgh, one member of the band said he knew a shortcut and they had to get out and move road blocks. They proceeded to drive onto the set of the filming of Night of the Living Dead

Posted by: Otto Pen at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (sJHOI)

206 I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the best Superman movie ever, but it is certainly the best one since Superman II. It’s in the conversation though.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (tgTrV)

207 Night of the Creeps was a fun zombie by alien parasite movie. Plus Jill Whitlow was hot

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (ZZv2M)

208 The Gunns can kiss my ass. I don't support asshole liberals.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (nyTxL)

209 And 28 Years Later is terrible! Do not recommend!

Posted by: lin-duh at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (VCgbV)

210 206 I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the best Superman movie ever, but it is certainly the best one since Superman II. It’s in the conversation though.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:40 PM (tgTrV)

Nope, best ever. Clark, Lois, and Lex were all better than any ever done. So were the Kents. Superman is not overpowered and thus, they don't have to rely on ridiculous solutions. Instead, he's powered to work in a movie.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:42 PM (tOcjL)

211 Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

So the only way you would know that it's supposed to be a lefty political statement is if they told you it was. James Gunn is trolling us.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 09:43 PM (VofaG)

212 202 Late to the party, but I have a copy of John Russo's "Return of the Living Dead" novel. It was written before the movie, and the movie is nothing like it. Russo's book is basically "Night of the Living Dead Part 2: More of the same."

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Right. That's why O'Bannon didn't want to do it. He felt it was too close and too infringing on Romero's domain. (And isn't that a refreshing thought: Wanting to do something different from the popular guy?)

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:43 PM (asXVI)

213 208 The Gunns can kiss my ass. I don't support asshole liberals.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:41 PM (nyTxL)

Anytime you watch any movie not done by Angel Studios. you are supporting asshole liberals. If they make great conservative material, and this movie is - this is the Superman that's finally all hero - why not watch it vs some other liberal's subpar movie...just b/c the liberal opened his mouth b/c he realized his movie would drive his fellow liberals away (so he tried to cut that off)?

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:44 PM (tOcjL)

214 Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

0-10 woke scale?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (ImXfC)

215 Yes thats a fair reading we pretend #3 and 4 didnt happen

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (bXbFr)

216 214 Everyone should go if they want a summer movie. Someone restrained James Gunn, and in that restraint, he made an epic superhero movie...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:37 PM (tOcjL)

0-10 woke scale?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:45 PM (ImXfC)

.5 max - it's REALLY not woke. I mean, Cat Grant is Cat Grant, if you catch my drift...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (tOcjL)

217 71 New Wave killed Disco.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM
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Wait, I just talked to Doof this morning.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (LVaYG)

218 I didn’t see anything woke in the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (tgTrV)

219 Many are saying Superman is not only pro illegals but also anti-Israel.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (ImXfC)

220 Nicholas hoult could have dialed the jackass down a little

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (bXbFr)

221 209 And 28 Years Later is terrible! Do not recommend!
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I enjoyed it, but I would hesitate to recommend it to anyone else. Maybe Eris.

It's very odd. It's a picaresque dressed up as a post-apocalyptic survival-horror. And the sequel looks like it might be ... well, the movie ends with the protagonist encountering a zombie-fighting tribe led by someone who is clergy but clearly evokes Jimmy Saville.

But we liked it. It "subverted expectations" in a lot of ways.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (asXVI)

222 I think Gunn made a very conservative movie—the values put forth in the movie are *very* conservative—despite himself.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (tgTrV)

223 219 Many are saying Superman is not only pro illegals but also anti-Israel.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 09:46 PM (ImXfC)

No, for the "immigrant story", it's a refugee story of absolute assimilation and rejecting your previous evil land...and becoming proud of who you are now and embracing that whole identity of your new land.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:48 PM (tOcjL)

224 OMG, the Air India voice recorder shows, shortly after takeoff on June 12, one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.

The other answered, I didn’t cut it off.

Uh oh.

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:48 PM (GITLP)

225 Well you might think boravia is more like pakistan invading india

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:49 PM (bXbFr)

226 James Gunn is a liberal and a pedo. I won't be supporting anything he does.

'Hollywood director James Gunn’s relationship is over with Disney after a sordid history of pedophilia and rape comments were spotlighted on social media.'

Asshole was joking about this on Social media.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:50 PM (nyTxL)

227 Yes he is very much pro american but anti deeo state

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:50 PM (bXbFr)

228 The politics of the movie are such that you can read whatever you want into them, but the movie is neither pro-illegal alien or anti-Israel on its face. I am sure that the lunatics of the left will interpret it that way but it is not in the text of the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (tgTrV)

229 If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)

230 MSDNC: Trump backs renewed push to rig the U.S. census by only counting citizens

Posted by: SMOD at July 12, 2025 09:52 PM (GITLP)

231 one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.

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What part of 72 virgins don't you understand?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 09:53 PM (L/fGl)

232 229 If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)

Personally, it's this attitude that I believe got us in the mess we've been in for decades. Slippery slope mentality to me.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:53 PM (nyTxL)

233 one of the pilots asked the other why he cut off the fuel.

Reading the report, the #1 engine was spooling back up but they just ran out of time. Tragic.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:54 PM (ptgc5)

234

Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)

235 My Deer Friend Nokatan is on tubi.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (lhenN)

236 234

Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)

Which is why he and Lois hook up...repeatedly...

Out just wanted to get in on the press...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (tOcjL)

237 Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM

No wonder he kept Olsen around.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 09:56 PM (ptgc5)

238 234

Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 09:55 PM (63Dwl)

It's the underwear, isn't it? Red underwear is a gay thing.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (nyTxL)

239 AlaBAMA at 232,

Point noted, and to an extent agreed with. But I can enjoy Spartacus even though screenwriter Dalton Trumbo was as leftist as they come. I can enjoy Guardians of the Galaxy even though James Gunn is...well...James Gunn. I can enjoy Seconds even though Hudson was gay.

Do I contradict myself? You betcha.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (q3u5l)

240 If the movie reflected Gunn’s politics or him as a person, I would have passed. The movie itself has a pretty conservative message and I support that. I do get where some of you are coming from though: I won’t see Fantastic Four no matter how good it is because I refuse to support anything with Pedro Pascal in it. Everyone has to make their own choices as to where their redlines are.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 09:58 PM (tgTrV)

241 Ok they just are peak stupid

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 09:59 PM (bXbFr)

242 I am amazed at the variety of opinions on Superman.

Posted by: mindful webworker - up, up, and aweigh at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (+kBwA)

243 Point noted, and to an extent agreed with. But I can enjoy Spartacus even though screenwriter Dalton Trumbo was as leftist as they come. I can enjoy Guardians of the Galaxy even though James Gunn is...well...James Gunn. I can enjoy Seconds even though Hudson was gay.

Do I contradict myself? You betcha.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:57 PM (q3u5l

Fair enough. I agree it's hard to police this but we're hurting them now. Costing them money. Taking their power. The more we fight, the more ground we win in the culture war. I'm with Patton. We need to attack Russia now, while we can, so to speak.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (nyTxL)

244 The whole jor el storyline was ridiculous shoehorned a tip to invincible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (bXbFr)

245 244 The whole jor el storyline was ridiculous shoehorned a tip to invincible

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:00 PM (bXbFr)

It actually has been done before in 2 other Superman television properties - one which reversed it, and one which kept it...so, it wasn't new...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 10:01 PM (tOcjL)

246 The new Superman actor has given the best rationale for the trunks: Clark is a small town midwestern kid who grew up liking wrestling and wants his uniform to be something that won’t scare people but evoke that kind of feel.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (tgTrV)

247 On the flip side, making a liberal filmmaker do a conservative movie and it making a lot of money is ironically hilarious.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 12, 2025 10:02 PM (nyTxL)

248 Just got out of Superman.

4/5 stars.

No politics, super heroes being heroic.
A little cartoony and silly. There IS a super powered dog in it after all.
But not strictly for kids, there is at least one headshot in the movie and it is not played lightly.

Humor is hit and miss but it isn't as quippy as a Marvel movie.

There's romance and it feels realistic without getting into Larry Niven territory.

Endorsed, if you like superheroes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (xcxpd)

249 Looks like Superman will do pretty good bidness this weekend. They’re learning to sidestep get woke go broke. Anti-American movies can still make money if marketed right.

Critical Drinker noted that the quote that got Ace all hot and bothered was creatively mis-contexted by an extremely gay Variety reporter. Said reporter then asked every single person in the red carpet line about how terrible MAGA is.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (AIhUY)

250 I think part of it is that Zazlav at WB is tamping down the woke stuff—he shelved the Batgirl movie because it would hurt the character of Batman—and I think Gunn was on a short leash.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (tgTrV)

251 Gay magazine ‘Out’ is claiming that the character of Superman is not just an “immigrant,” but he is “also a gay icon” and “always has been.”
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

Well, he does wear a cape.

Incidentally, last book thread some Moron had recommended Night Over Water by Ken Follet so I read it. One thing I learned was back in the day among the English upper class the way to indicate someone was a fag was to refer to them as "musical."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (L/fGl)

252 I guess its not a crazy notion considering his position, but it makes clark either ignorant or rebellious

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 12, 2025 10:04 PM (bXbFr)

253 Nood - Club ONT

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 10:05 PM (vcPNM)

254 NOOD

Club ONT

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 10:07 PM (ULPxl)

255 AlaBAMA,

When an actor, director, writer goes out of his way to trumpet his lefty views and tie them to the work, I skip that work. If they don't do such a thing, I'm more inclined to give the work a shot. Stephen King is an example here -- I know he's a raging lefty and has been for years and years, but he used to keep it down better. I skip most of the novels now because he can't seem to keep the TDS out of them. A lot of his short fiction, where there's less room to do that, I can still enjoy.

Gunn has already cost himself my ticket money on Superman, for instance, just by opening his big mouth.

Close as I can get.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:08 PM (q3u5l)

256 Stephen Furst played Vir.

Flounder.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 10:10 PM (zZu0s)

257 Return of the Living Dead - One of my favourite black comedy zombie movies. Not many can get the balance right, but this thing absolutely nailed it (well, at least as my sense of humour is concerned.)

On the barrel that tarman was in:

PROPERTY
DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
IN CASE OF EMERGENCY
CALL 1 (800) 454-8000

Did I just dial it so you don't have to? Absolutely.

Rings a couple of times, then silently connects to another connection which gives a long ring, and then it's answered:

The number you have dialed has changed
To be connected to the new number, press '1' now at a cost of $2.99.

(Uh, no. I hung up.)

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 12, 2025 10:21 PM (O7YUW)

258 If we skipped movies (and a lot of tv and books too) because we didn't like the politics of the director, writer, actors could we enjoy movies, tv, or books at all? If they don't beat us over the head with politics in the show or the book, I'm satisfied.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 09:51 PM (q3u5l)

This attitude is why the left controls everything.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 10:30 PM (ImXfC)

259 With the incident of the AI band on Spotify, I would suggest watching the movie "Looker" from 1981. Written and directed by Michael Crichton, starring Albert Finney, Susan Dey, and James Coburn.

Even more topical for that is the 1987 novel "Little Heroes" by Norman Spinrad. And by "topical" I mean "an artificially generated singer and music is the core of the plot".

Posted by: Sam at July 12, 2025 10:35 PM (7jMef)

260 It's Go Time, Donald at 258 --

Answered this as well as I'm able to these days at 239 and 255.

Thanks for the thread, moviegique.
Have a good one, gang.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:49 PM (q3u5l)

Hobby Thread - July 12, 2025 [TRex]

Welcome hobbyists! Pull up a chair and sit a spell with the Horde in this little corner of the interweb. This is the mighty, mighty officially sanctioned Ace of Spades Hobby Thread. We gave the Ace of Spades Wheel of Hobbies(TM) a spin and it came up with rocks.

Rocks? Yes. Rocks.

Not like "Let there be Rock" or "Can you smell what the rock is cooking?" Think more like "Welcome to the Rock" or "dumb as a box of rocks."

You might be tempted to say "I'm not really into rocks as a hobby." Tough. Dig around in the content and soak in the comments. You might find that you're really into rocks and didn't know it or you might find reasons to get into rocks. Either way, glad you're here.

[Top photo: Sea Stacks by polynikes (16x20 oil)]

Sea stacks qualify as ocean-based rock formations.

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Rocks are fun. Where did they come from? How did they form? Why are they so varied and different? What do they look like inside? How heavy are they? What can they be used for? How far can you throw them? Sounds like a lot of good opportunities for hobbying. Rocks are so much fun that even a Pillaging Idiot could get into them.

Do you collect rocks? Are you an amateur geologist that appreciates rock formations on a hike, in a photograph or as a matter of scientific curiosity? Do you use rocks in your hobbying?

We are going to leave mining for another thread. There is a whole separate theme of mining for gems or gold and corresponding art projects. We'll get there, but not today...

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How to collect rocks - the comprehensive guide for the amateur geologist

Generally speaking, there are three main types of rocks:
Igneous Rocks: Formed from cooled magma or lava, these rocks are primary evidence of Earth's fiery interior. Examples include granite and basalt.
Sedimentary Rocks: Created from particles of older rocks, as well as plant or animal debris, these rocks are like history books, recording ancient surface conditions. Sandstone and limestone are common types.
Metamorphic Rocks: Born from transformation under pressure and heat, these rocks are the shape-shifters of the geological world. Marble and slate are metamorphic rocks that started as something else but changed under Earth's immense forces.

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What does the start of the southern end of the San Andreas fault look like? What rocks are there? History and geology lesson here.

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This is near Yellowstone - amazing rock formations:

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Utah is a geologist's dream. So much variety and so many places with formations unseen elsewhere. Case in point: we've covered a lot of the state and I've never heard of the White Rocks:

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Anyone into hunting for geodes?

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Asking the difficult questions (beware: there may be math involved):

ESPN covers rock skipping:

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Topic adjacent news from the Denver Museum of Nature and Science: Museum Makes Another Incredible Dinosaur Discovery -This Time Underneath Our Parking Lot!

It all started with an innovative initiative to drill down hundreds of feet to explore the possibility for using the Earth's internal energy to heat and cool the Museum. But when you start drilling deep down into the Earth's crust at a museum full of scientists, the urge to survey and study what's down there becomes irresistible.
Alongside the geothermal drilling project, the Museum conducted a scientific coring initiative to better understand the geology beneath City Park and the larger Denver Basin. The scientific core was drilled nearly 1,000 feet below the surface, passing through layers of gravel and sand deposited by the South Platte River before reaching ancient bedrock from the Late Cretaceous Period. While it wasn't surprising that scientists uncovered fascinating geology all the way down, the scientific core extracted something that surpassed everyone's expectations: a partial dinosaur bone dating back 67.5 million years!
"It's basically like winning the lottery and getting struck by lightning on the same day," said Dr. James Hagadorn, curator of geology at the Museum. "No one could have predicted that this little square foot of land where we started drilling would actually contain a dinosaur bone beneath it!"

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Are you wise in the ways of painting rocks? Apparently painting rocks is a thing. Some people just paint rocks for their own enjoyment or for their gardens and others paint rocks and leave them in public for others to find. TRex has a small brain and short arms, so figuring out which rock painting content is Hobby Thread worthy is a challenge. Made a guess but feel free to put other resources in the comments with tinyurls.

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Are you a lurker? Do you enjoy reading Ace of Spades content, but have been reluctant to post and participate in the comments? Have you been waiting for a good opportunity to jump in and say hello? This could be your day. Come on in. The water's fine. We don't bite (usually).

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Horde Hobbying:

Lurker Paul Nowak sent this drawing:

My main hobby has always been art. Drawing. But more specifically, drawing dopey cartoons that have a lot of detail, no "higher meaning," and just basically make fun of stuff.
I don't have the time, money, or interest to attend Art School, or Figure Drawing classes, but that hasn't stopped me.
One of my recent doodles is this parody of DC. It's non-partisan: it's just a silly look at a city that somehow survives despite the fact that its worst enemies are also the majority of its residents and "leadership." Above all, it is a city that defines "bureaucracy."
Size is usually 11" x 17", done on illustration board and inked/colored by hand. The drawings are usually done for someone (or a group) in particular, so lots of inside jokes; that way they don't look too generic.
Total time for writing the jokes, pencils, ink, then color might have been 30-40 hours.
Process: I do what used to be called "tight drawing." You draw the entire thing in pencil, then ink it in; basically, drawing it twice.

TRex comments:

1) Wow. Very impressive. Thanks for sharing!

2) The detail is amazing. It might be difficult to see on the screen but check out these zoomed in parts.

3) I asked Paul to add the watermarks. The piece was so good that it could easily have been saved and repurposed for others without credit or compensation. I also reduced the resolution quality for posting on the thread to protect the piece. It is that good.

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As per usual Hobby Thread etiquette, keep this thread limited to hobbying. Your participation does not need to limited to the theme. All hobbying is welcome. However, politics, current events and religious debates can live in threads elsewhere. Play nice. Do not be a troll and do not feed the trolls. Pants, as always, are optional.

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Did you miss the Hobby Thread last week? We talked woodworking with lathes. The comments may be closed, but you can re-live the content.

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Notable comments from last week:

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Words of wisdom:

"Because despite all our troubles, when things are grim out in that wide round world of ours, that's when it's really important to have a good hobby." Posted by: tankascribe at June 22, 2024 07:41 PM (HWxAD).

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What if there really are more ways than one to rock? If you have trouble finding something in the content or comments that resonates with you, hijack the thread for your hobbying as you see fit. We will feature a different theme next time. What are you hobbying? We love showing off Horde hobbying. Send thoughts, suggestions and photos of your hobbying to moronhobbies at protonmail dot com. Do mighty things.

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1 Joe Rockhead is interested in rocks.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:32 PM (0eaVi)

2 Welcome Hobbiests

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:33 PM (+qU29)

3 Is the top pic a "do you see the "blank" kind of illo?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:33 PM (0eaVi)

4 There's a dino skull middle left.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:37 PM (0eaVi)

5 I am a lifelong collector of rocks. I like fossils, and I like pretty colored stones. I have been busy with other things for a couple of years and haven't been running my tumbler, but I'd like to get back to it. I brought half a dozen five-gallon buckets full of rocks back from Wyoming when I moved back to Ohio. I might have a problem.

Must get it from Dad; his truck has a dashboard full of interesting rocks.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:39 PM (h7ZuX)

6 Besides spider solitaire which is evil, I have a curiosity about rocks but limited to see one , pick it up and look at it closely before tossing it back.
Do have 2 pieces of coal in a flower bed, and a bag of small rocks for my miniatures games

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:39 PM (+qU29)

7 A good friend of mine is a geologist.

Every time he talks about rocks, he makes them sound interesting.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 05:40 PM (IBQGV)

8 Paul Nowak, your drawings would be great accents to maps.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:41 PM (h7ZuX)

9 Up state as a kid on trips would look for fossils, Trilobites ( ?) were easy to find. How they got high up in the mountains in Pa is a good question

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (+qU29)

10 I used to collect rocks.
Must have had almost six or seven of them.

A chunk of smooth corral that looked just like a skull when I found it half buried on a beach. A smooth stone I got from the LZ when I jumped out of a plane (with a parachute!). Small piece of lava from Hawaii. Unremarkable stone from Haiti...

Think the wife tossed them.
Whole collection. Gone.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (/lPRQ)

11 9 Up state as a kid on trips would look for fossils, Trilobites ( ?) were easy to find. How they got high up in the mountains in Pa is a good question
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (+qU29)

Uplift.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:44 PM (h7ZuX)

12 Great, you dig one COB out of a Cretaceous sedimentary deposit and they do a Hobby Thread on rocks?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:46 PM (HlyYF)

13 Paul Nowak your drawings are more than excellent. Gallery quality. I'm trying to think of the popular artist in the 80's who sold millions $ based on the same type of drawings. He would combine his drawings with cutouts that would give the art a 3D look.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 05:47 PM (VofaG)

14 Beautiful picture up top. Thanks, polynikes, and thanks for the thread, TRex.. I like rocks. Used to collect them from the beach in Canada where my family went.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:47 PM (2GCMq)

15 The inside joke is that PI is actually a geologist, and has been tormenting family members to stop and pick up rocks and fossils all of the way back to the time he was just a wee Idiot!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:48 PM (HlyYF)

16 Living in Central WA I have lots of rocks around. The best educational videos are from Professor Nick Zentner from CWU. His Nick on the Rocks series is great. During Covid, he did a series from his backyard. The volcanic flows here are remarkable and, with the Ice Age Floods the landscape has some fascinating features.
Highly recommended. This is also the home of the Ellensburg Blue. Lots of old gold mines around and even once, long ago, a few diamonds were found.

Posted by: Winston AKA Pops at July 12, 2025 05:49 PM (EgLGT)

17 [Top photo: Sea Stacks by polynikes (16x20 oil)]

This is a very pleasing painting. The colorful patterns at the left contrast nicely with the distant sea stacks.

I would love to have a similar original!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at July 12, 2025 05:49 PM (PQOq3)

18 15 The inside joke is that PI is actually a geologist, and has been tormenting family members to stop and pick up rocks and fossils all of the way back to the time he was just a wee Idiot!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:48 PM
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This is about as close as we're going to get to a custom tailor-made PI Hobby Thread theme. Glad you're here to pillage accordingly. Enjoy!

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 05:50 PM (Eaoic)

19 On other hobby stuff, next week at this time plan to be at Historicon the miniature war game convention.
Having sinus issues but come Hell or high water plan to be there.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 05:50 PM (+qU29)

20 I do the rock.

Posted by: Tim Curry at July 12, 2025 05:53 PM (+xk6Q)

21 A long time ago (when I was very young) we collected small stones as keepstakes when we went to places.
A few years ago, I found the collection tucked in with a stone polishing set. So I ran them through it.
Big mistake. They didn't polish up as well as I'd thought. Now I feel as if I've removed the memories from the stones.
That makes me sad... :-(

Posted by: As not seen on TV at July 12, 2025 05:53 PM (utq9C)

22 A few years ago, I found the collection tucked in with a stone polishing set. So I ran them through it.
Big mistake. They didn't polish up as well as I'd thought. Now I feel as if I've removed the memories from the stones.
That makes me sad... :-(
Posted by: As not seen on TV at July 12, 2025 05:53 PM (utq9C)

I had a stone that, when it came out of the first polishing stage, was covered with little tiny starfish shaped fossils. They were thin, though, and the next stage removed most of them. That made me sad.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 05:56 PM (h7ZuX)

23 My wife had a couple of milk crates of rocks she had picked up on a trip to Canada. She had been carrying them around for about 10 years before she married me. I finally got her to agree to let me use it for run-off area I put down under and around the hose-bib out back as part of the paver path. I made the path to that faucet, so I wouldn't have to walk in mud year-round anymore.
So I have a paver pathway (with the gaps between mortared in with crushed limestone) leading up to the faucet, and a square enclosure made in part with salvaged concrete curbstone, holding in a wide selection of Canadian rocks.

I really am not one for landscaping, but that looks classy.

(also when we go to the coast and my wife picks up more agates, I add them to that )

I am enthralled by bedding in pavers with crushed limestone instead of sand. It is cheaper than buying bags of sand, and it is better at preventing weeds from growing up and through. I suggest a finger-width gap between pavers at the very least, because that lets the gaps get filled fully, and the limestone starts to cement itself together when it rains.
Bags of crushed limestone can be bought at Tractor Supply.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 05:59 PM (D7oie)

24 Wow, great painting Polynikes...I would definitely hang that in my house.
Paul, you are a very talented artist. With either a fantastic sense of humor or actual experience in the DC area!

Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 05:59 PM (Eaoic)

25 My grandfather was a mining engineer. He had an awesome collection of rocks, minerals, gems and gold. All collected from various mines he worked... mostly in the West. I have a vile of uncut rubies and some rough diamonds (not jewelry quality) and some other, semi-precious stones. None really worth much. Just interesting.

He also had a pretty interesting collection of fossils including a piece of Mastodon tusk, prehistoric shark teeth, shells, unidentified jaw bones, toes, etc. I still have some of all that stashed away or on display.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:00 PM (Q4IgG)

26 In the late '90s, there was a shop in Waveland, MS, whose owner/operator used rocks as the basis to paint customers' cats. Each stone was shaped much like a sleeping, curled-up cat -- I don't know if she found them, or took larger rocks and sanded/chiseled them into the right shape, or both. Then she would use a photograph to paint the stone as if it were your cat, asleep. In '98 or so I saw similar ones for sale at a mall in CO, and wanted to ask if they got theirs from the shop in Waveland. Or maybe it went in the other direction.

Waveland pretty much got wiped from the map by Katrina twenty years ago, so I have no idea if the lady is even still alive. But the work was well done. I thought of commissioning a stone portrait of my then-still living red tabby-with-white Arizona, but never got around to it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:00 PM (omVj0)

27 I used to take a rock home with me from where ever I traveled. I used them in our back yard garden when we lived in CA. Didn't have time or interest in harvesting them and packing them for the big move.

Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 06:01 PM (Eaoic)

28 Much of the beach where I live is rocky.

Rocks are awesome. Did you know you could sit by the water, pick up a rock, tell it your worries and toss it in? There are more rocks than you have worries. And the rocks will hold your secrets. And relieve you of your burdens.

Try it. Rocks are awesome.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 06:02 PM (IjKjy)

29 I used to have arrowheads with imprints of plant leaves that I collected as a child in upstate NY...have no idea what happened to them...maybe I'll find them one day when I clean out my parents house, again.

Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (Eaoic)

30 Nice ritual, nurse r. Don't even have to throw it in the water, if there's none nearby. Just put it down. It will still hold your troubles.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (h7ZuX)

31 I am going to throw in some PI stories, each of which hopefully makes a point about rock/fossil collecting.

There are MANY more places in the U.S. with cool fossils that are easily collected compared to cool rocks. Literally, most of the limestone "road cut" exposures in the U.S. potentially have a cornucopia of fossils.

Boring story: Took our kids to KC for spring break many years ago, and we were ahead of our check in time at the hotel, so I asked Bride of PI if we could stop at one of the road cuts and look for fossils. She let out a big sigh, and reluctantly agreed.

I pull over to a promising one and load out me and the kids. I start finding fossils immediately, but the kids weren't having much luck (and were getting a little bored). I showed them the handfuls of fossils that I had already found and what the common fossils actually looked like in that deposit.

Pretty soon all of the kids began finding lots of fossils!

Point of the story: When looking for things like small fossils, your eye will not initially be calibrated to "recognize" a find. Keep on searching, and definitely look at the finds of others.

end Part 1.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (HlyYF)

32 Part 2:

Surprisingly, your brain/eyes will then begin to find fossils on ground that you previously covered!

(The same is also true when you are looking for small, semi-precious gemstones, etc. You have to get your eyes capable of seeing the prize!)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:04 PM (HlyYF)

33 There's a dino skull middle left.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 05:37 PM (0eaVi)

I was going to paint the Statue of Liberty buried halfway on the beach.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:06 PM (VofaG)

34 Rocks are awesome. Did you know you could sit by the water, pick up a rock, tell it your worries and toss it in? There are more rocks than you have worries. And the rocks will hold your secrets. And relieve you of your burdens.

Try it. Rocks are awesome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 06:02 PM (IjKjy)

I broke my right shoulder (head of the humerus) in 2012, and wound up with temporary screws and a sling for about three months. One of my self-imposed PT drills once I got all the screws out was to teach myself how to use a sling, since that made me do a full rotation of the shoulder. Once underhand wasn't so bad, I started on overhand.
I went down to the river since that was the only place that had lots of pebbles, and I mostly always hit the river

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 06:07 PM (D7oie)

35 If "rocks" can include natural sculptures on the huge side, like the White Rocks:

When I lived in CO I drove down to Castlewood Canyon State Park, which is about halfway between Denver and Co. Springs on an older two-lane highway east of I-25. Hiking along one of the paths, I happened to look up, and thought for an instant I was in a Jurassic Park movie. Some of the formations at the top of the river canyon were shaped very much like dinosaur heads! An allosaur, I thought, a smaller and leaner head that looked something like a velociraptor, and a couple more. It was like seeing sculptures in clouds, except in stone, and they did not go away if you looked aside and then back.

I've never seen anyone mention the features in describing Castlewood Canyon, not even their brochures. Maybe their website mentions those.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:07 PM (omVj0)

36 They had a TV series called Dino Hunters. Those guys are ruthless.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:07 PM (VofaG)

37 When I was knee high to a grasshopper, my neighbor was a science professor at a nearby college. He used to take us up to Hawk Mountain Sanctuary in Eastern PA to help the game wardens count migrating Eagles, peregrines, hawks, and the like.

We always took a side trim nearby to The River of Rocks, and usually got a science lecture in the process about how it was formed in the Ice Age (as were most of the mountains in the area). Interesting stuff, but I'm more inclined to be interested by Pop Rocks.

Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 06:10 PM (dIske)

38 PI, I'd love to send you a picture of a fossil I found. Maybe, being a geologist, you would have a clue about it. I think it's some kind of pebbly-textured lizard-like critter.

I found it in the gravel at the library.

Landscaping gravel is a great place to look for fossils.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:10 PM (h7ZuX)

39 Great Lakes rocks are addictive

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (jPdyB)

40 If you collect rocks, probably shouldn't watch the 60's Outer Limits episode "Corpus Earthling."

I like photographing rocks, I then cut those photos up and repurpose them in animation. I had a character who was almost entirely made of rocks from a cave wall.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1)

41 That Paul Nowak drawing is amazing.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1)

42 Social activity being in the nature of a hobby, I can say that Hadrian the Seventh and my lovely bride and I had a nice lunch at Joe's in Alvin and still be kinda on topic.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)

43 41 That Paul Nowak drawing is amazing.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1)
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Yes it is! And amusing. "Need $$$ for Bribes". LOL

Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (dIske)

44 >>I am enthralled by bedding in pavers with crushed limestone instead of sand.

A popular alternative around here is crushed clam shells.

My town is basically built on glacial till. We've got a lot of rocks. Our beaches tend to be rockier than even the beaches on towns on the Cape or down south.

Rhode Island is the only New England state that was at one time part of the micro continent Avalonia before it had an unfortunate collision with Godwana.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (viF8m)

45 I would love to find flint, think as a kid would find it down by river yet read its not supposed to be exactly here. There are places it's common.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (+qU29)

46 Seastacks are pretty awesome. Bandon, OR has som beauties. Thanks for rocking the Hobby Thead, TRex.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 06:14 PM (LVaYG)

47 Gondwana

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)

48 My dad once took my brother and I to Calvert Cliffs, MD to look for shark's teeth.

There's also, or was, a nuclear power plant there too. At the time, back in the early 70's, it was pretty remote.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:17 PM (Q4IgG)

49 My great grandfather from Sweden was a shell and rock collector. His collection once featured in a Long Island, NY newspaper .

Anyway he had one smooth black stone a little smaller than a walnut he collected as a young man. I don’t know if he called it his stress stone but that’s what my mother called it when she inherited it. He used to rub his thumb on it . My mom continued to do it but not as much. After
80 years you can see where it wore down into a thumb size indentation. I have it now but I never did the stress reliever thumb rub on it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:17 PM (VofaG)

50 45 I would love to find flint, think as a kid would find it down by river yet read its not supposed to be exactly here. There are places it's common.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM

My father was a rockhound, and when I was 12 or so, he took me to a place to collect flint. Not a mine, exactly, but a place where you could find flint in pits and occasionally just lying on the ground. When we were leaving there was a fellow near where we'd parked that had found a quartz deposit and he was sitting there surrounded by sparkling quartz crystals. Kind of like the inside of a geode, but big like feet across.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:17 PM (VmDLh)

51 Paul Nowak, I love that cartoon. Reminds me of old school Mad Magazine cartoons

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 12, 2025 06:18 PM (wItF4)

52 Upper Peninsula of Michigan, especially the Keweenaw Peninsula for collecting float copper, banded iron, Jacobson sandstone, agates, etc. Mine tailings everywhere, and the A. e. Seamen museum at Michigan Tech is fantastic.

A number of rock shows are held there at the beginning of August.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (wIzmN)

53 Collecting on public lands:

Usually things like road cuts (or creek banks) on interstate and state highways have no restrictions on collecting. However, the rules are obviously different in national monuments and parks or on Indian lands. I NEVER collect there unless there is a sign granting explicit permission.

Safety: The biggest danger while collecting from road cuts ... is the cars! Especially with children. Of course, I have seen adults wander out onto the highway while looking at an armload of fossils that they are going to put into their car.

The second biggest danger is people climbing up a slope above other collectors. Mr. Gravity is NOT your friend! A fist-sized rock that bounces 20' down a slope can crack somebody's skull at the bottom.

The third biggest danger is poisonous/biting critters. The best fossil collecting sites generally have loose, platy rocks. Rattlesnakes, scorpions, etc. ALSO love loose, platy rocks. Be careful while collecting, and feel free to move and turn over rocks with a stick - before you pick it up for a closer look.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (HlyYF)

54 Gondwana
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:15 PM (viF8m)

Better head to the doctor to get some antibiotics, jack. Not unusual for a sailor...

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (zZu0s)

55 Not too many rocks around Da Swamp here. One place that does have some is the Miss. River shore in front of St. Louis Cathedral. The levee has the "Moonwalk" pathway along the top; but then piles of good-sized rocks lie on the water side for blocks. The upriver section has been turned into a tourist/local promenade, and below about Dumaine Street there are still warehouses and docks, but for a long stretch it looks like a canyon rockfall that happened to wind up along a riverbank. (I presume they were placed there long ago to shore up the levee.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (omVj0)

56 you collect rocks, probably shouldn't watch the 60's Outer Limits episode "Corpus Earthling."

I like photographing rocks, I then cut those photos up and repurpose them in animation. I had a character who was almost entirely made of rocks from a cave wall.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 06:11 PM (CHHv1

Cool. I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention Galaxy Quest after reading your post.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (VofaG)

57 42 Social activity being in the nature of a hobby, I can say that Hadrian the Seventh and my lovely bride and I had a nice lunch at Joe's in Alvin and still be kinda on topic.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)

I think micro MoMes are always on topic! Very nice!

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:21 PM (h7ZuX)

58 My neighbor paints rocks. She edges her garden with them

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 12, 2025 06:22 PM (P9pDS)

59 Lurker breaking cover here. I'm 68, and a new Geology Nut since I started Gold Prospecting 10 years back. I'm on X, but that's about it. Religious J.J. reader every morning. Always found the Ace comments intimidating, but no more.

If you've ever driven thru a road cut, and wondered, "What the heck to all those colors and layers mean?", Geology has the answers!

Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (QubZY)

60 Skip, I live not far from Flint Ridge in Ohio. Very nice colors in the flint here.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (h7ZuX)

61 38 PI, I'd love to send you a picture of a fossil I found. Maybe, being a geologist, you would have a clue about it. I think it's some kind of pebbly-textured lizard-like critter.

I found it in the gravel at the library.

Landscaping gravel is a great place to look for fossils.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:10 PM

Dash,

I just sent you an email on the address in your nic!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)

62 My wife wants to go to Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas. Every once in a while someone poking around there comes up with rock worth millions.

Hate it break it to her....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (Q4IgG)

63 I have flint knapping tools, and was starting to learn before we got the puppies six years ago. Having puppies and trying to keep them away from flint shards was incompatible. Another I hobby I need to return to, and get good at.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (h7ZuX)

64 I think micro MoMes are always on topic! Very nice!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:21 PM

The plan is to eventually hold a mini mome barbecue at the Cyber compound here in the burgeoning metropolis of Santa Fe, Texas.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:25 PM (VmDLh)

65 Paul’s The Tennis Ball monument would have been perfect for the Pet thread.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:25 PM (VofaG)

66 Social activity being in the nature of a hobby, I can say that Hadrian the Seventh and my lovely bride and I had a nice lunch at Joe's in Alvin and still be kinda on topic.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:13 PM (VmDLh)
**********
Mini MoMes are the best!

Posted by: The Grateful at July 12, 2025 06:27 PM (Eaoic)

67 59 Lurker breaking cover here. I'm 68, and a new Geology Nut since I started Gold Prospecting 10 years back. I'm on X, but that's about it. Religious J.J. reader every morning. Always found the Ace comments intimidating, but no more.

Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM
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Welcome! Thanks for jumping in. Glad we stumbled onto a suitable topic for you!

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:27 PM (Eaoic)

68 My wife wants to go to Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas. Every once in a while someone poking around there comes up with rock worth millions.

Hate it break it to her....
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (Q4IgG

I’d have the same luck as I have playing the lottery and more tired.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:28 PM (VofaG)

69 Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM

Where do you do your prospected and have you filed a claim yet?😎

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:30 PM (VofaG)

70 If you've ever driven thru a road cut, and wondered, "What the heck to all those colors and layers mean?", Geology has the answers!

Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM

Welcome Jeff!

Congrats on the de-lurking!

I am usually the driver on family road trips. On MANY occasions, the Bride of PI has said, "Quit explaining what all of those colors and layers mean - and keep your eyes on the road!"

(No wrecks, yet! No divorces, yet!)

P.S. Good luck on the gold prospecting. If you ever get some really good results, post it in an overnight thread. I suspect you would generate a fair number of reply comments.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:30 PM (HlyYF)

71 Hey you mooks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (BK31K)

72 Prospecting stupid autocorrect. Made a bad joke worse.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (VofaG)

73 Polynikes, I love that painting. Excellent use of light.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (0aYVJ)

74 you collect rocks, probably shouldn't watch the 60's Outer Limits episode "Corpus Earthling.". . .

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025

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I had to look that up, despite remembering the series from my kidhood. Robert Culp was in it, which would put it on my must-watch list anyway, and the descriptions on IMDb make it sound even more intriguing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (omVj0)

75 If you've ever driven thru a road cut, and wondered, "What the heck to all those colors and layers mean?", Geology has the answers!
Posted by: Jeff Charles at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (QubZY)

There is a series of books specific to regions that explain roadside geology. Look for "Roadside Geology of (insert state here)"

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:32 PM (h7ZuX)

76 As I recall, the flint was from Flint Ridge, Ohio. He also went to a place in Northern Idaho that allowed you to dig garnet and came back with 10 fl oz or so of garnet gravel.

The thing is, there was a place that we went to in Colorado or Wyoming that had a field of black rocks and sand and the rocks were full of these spiral cone shaped fossils. I've always wondered where that was.

My father would cut the rocks into pieces and shape and polish them to make jewelry with.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM (VmDLh)

77 These comments confirm the wisdom of gold mining/prospecting as a hobby thread theme at some point in the future.

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM (Eaoic)

78 Rocks? Jasper Beach,Maine for the win!

Posted by: mdk at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (NbvJs)

79 Ladies, please calm yourselves. There’s plenty to go around.

Posted by: Dash Riprock at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (khEZ7)

80 I just sent you an email on the address in your nic!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)

Hm...not seeing it

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (h7ZuX)

81 As wee tykes, my friends and I looked for interesting (from our point of view) rocks. Might be an odd shape or have an unusual texture or color. We did learn about the stuff we collected from library books and encyclopedias. This was decades before computers. The prize was finding stones with iron pyrite, fools gold, showing. Those became treasure when we played at being pirates. Collecting would be too strong a description but we did learn about them.

We never found any fossils but looking at the stones with a good magnifying glass, courtesy of my grandfather, revealed all sorts of interesting aspects.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:35 PM (yTvNw)

82 Seastacks are pretty awesome. Bandon, OR has som beauties. Thanks for rocking the Hobby Thead, TRex.
Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 06:14 PM (LVaYG)

Nice golf course there too.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:35 PM (W/lyH)

83 Nice golf course there too.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:35 PM (W/lyH)

I think they have 5 there now.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:37 PM (VofaG)

84 And Paul Nowak, outstanding work! Reminds me of Richard Scarry's work. I spent endless hours as a kid finding new details in his elaborate drawings.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:37 PM (0aYVJ)

85 Time to think about dinner. We have Addams Family Values from 1993 on DVD for tonight, too. Better than Svengoolie's scheduled Invaders From Mars for sure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:38 PM (omVj0)

86 Ladies, please calm yourselves. There’s plenty to go around.
Posted by: Dash Riprock at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (khEZ7)

You sniveling maggot!
Drop and give me 50!!!

Posted by: Sergeant Rock at July 12, 2025 06:38 PM (W/lyH)

87 77 These comments confirm the wisdom of gold mining/prospecting as a hobby thread theme at some point in the future.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM

My ex had an uncle called "Polack Joe" (the Alaskan prospector not the Chicago gangster) that was killed by a claim jumper who was then acquitted because the judge was a relation.

Or that's what the story went.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:38 PM (VmDLh)

88 I managed to accomplish some things today. On the hobby/recreation side, I repaired the 160 meter long wire antenna for my HF ham station and installed accessory tracks on ol' what's-her-name's kayak.

Posted by: Bert G at July 12, 2025 06:39 PM (VARTN)

89 JTB -

Speaking of rocks, does this place look familiar?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:39 PM (viF8m)

90 Might help if I include the link.

https://tinyurl.com/vcxmunph

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (viF8m)

91 It seems all boys like to skip rocks. My friends and I certainly did. Finding the right shape and learning the best angle to toss was part of growing up. I was pretty good and had a side arm fling that was good for a dozen or more skips. Had to wait for the slack time between tides to have sufficiently smooth water otherwise the waves would swallow up the stones.

Thinking about skipping rocks still makes me smile.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (yTvNw)

92 Intertubes tells me there are now 7 courses at Bandon Golf Resort,

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)

93 I’ve always liked rocks, kept good ones around. One of my favorites came from a silver mine, weighs a couple pounds has a vein of pure silver right through the middle of it,

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:42 PM (Hlfhp)

94 91 Thinking about skipping rocks still makes me smile.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM
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Agree. Surely a required skill to be learned before graduating from childhood.

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (Eaoic)

95 No, JackStraw, I have no idea. What is that? I'd live there, except not enough trees.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (h7ZuX)

96

The Pet Rock

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Pet_Rock

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (63Dwl)

97 84 And Paul Nowak, outstanding work! Reminds me of Richard Scarry's work. I spent endless hours as a kid finding new details in his elaborate drawings.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:37 PM (0aYVJ)

When my daughter was little she loved Richard Scarry’s Christmas book. I did, too!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM (Hlfhp)

98 Intertubes tells me there are now 7 courses at Bandon Golf Resort,
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)

*starts planning trip to Bandon*

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (W/lyH)

99 This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.

Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)

100 89 ... "Speaking of rocks, does this place look familiar?"

JackStraw,

Oh yes! Funny, I remember the rocks but not the building. Maybe it came after I left or my memory is spotty. (And yes, Newport Bridge was convenient but I missed the ferry boat rides to Jamestown.)

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (yTvNw)

101 This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)

That’s my sediment too.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (VofaG)

102 97 When my daughter was little she loved Richard Scarry’s Christmas book. I did, too!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:43 PM
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Excellent reference.

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (Eaoic)

103 >>No, JackStraw, I have no idea. What is that? I'd live there, except not enough trees.

It's called Clingstone but most people are here just call the house on the rock. Was built around the start of last century and has withstood hurricanes and everything else.

Cool place but if you have to run to the store for milk it's gotta be a pain.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (viF8m)

104 99 This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)

Do. Not. Start.

LOL

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (h7ZuX)

105 Precious stones are, well, rocks, too. Gump's Department Store in San Francisco began as a store for jade. Mr. Gump had incredible skill at choosing the very best. And he was blind. He could tell just from the touch.

Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 06:47 PM (8p/ok)

106 >>Oh yes! Funny, I remember the rocks but not the building. Maybe it came after I left or my memory is spotty. (And yes, Newport Bridge was convenient but I missed the ferry boat rides to Jamestown.)

There is a new ferry, people only, that now runs between the two. If I'm just heading over to town in Newport I take it. Much better than trying to find a place to park during the season.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:48 PM (viF8m)

107 My wife’s best friend had a father who was a geologist. They would take long car trips through the west, and she said the worst part was always when they would crest some ridge and then her dad would stop the car, get out and give them all a 30 minute lecture on what an Anticline was and why they could see one right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:48 PM (Hlfhp)

108 Hey Jeff!
Welcome!
Remember, after 25 posts you are eligible for the igneous membership.
(See how I stuck to the theme of the thread?)

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:49 PM (W/lyH)

109 Picked up a tile saw to cut geodes. Great fun.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 06:49 PM (K2fwt)

110 Spent the day organizing the existing gear on the new ship. Much to do and the TO BUY list is long. Amazon is a lifesaver.

It's a lot like moving into a new house, but with a lot fewer locations to squirrel away the important stuff.

There is nothing equal to being out in the water on a beautiful sunny day, the "California" part notwithstanding.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 06:50 PM (BK31K)

111
polynikes, you should be in the Art Thread!

lurker Paul Nowak, please delurk!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 06:50 PM (9pzfg)

112 I have flint knapping tools, and was starting to learn before we got the puppies six years ago. Having puppies and trying to keep them away from flint shards was incompatible. Another I hobby I need to return to, and get good at.
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:24 PM (h7ZuX)

Probably for the cooking thread, but here is a video on butchering a buffalo using Clovis toolsets. For Science!

youtu.be/XmsrkFjPiKM

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 06:51 PM (D7oie)

113 Rockhounding 101 had an ad titled 'Christian kids deserve better that a King of Kings'. What the actual heck?

Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 06:51 PM (LHPAg)

114 polynikes,
I looked at that painting and thought it was yours. The way the greens and rust colors mingle and the flow and details of the rocks seemed familiar. Lovely.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (yTvNw)

115 Cicero, what boat did you get?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (viF8m)

116 A geologist walks into a bar and orders gem on the rocks.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (VofaG)

117 This is a gneiss thread. Certainly not one to be taken for granite.
Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 06:45 PM (aqZN1)

Do. Not. Start.

LOL
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:46 PM (h7ZuX)

So...shale we stop?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:54 PM (W/lyH)

118 117 So...shale we stop?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 06:54 PM
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Nah. Be boulder. Keep going.

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:55 PM (Eaoic)

119 Cicero the "California" part besides the amazing weather like the current/recent weather is just fine - and especially when it's about the water. Always enjoy being on the water anywhere but outside the tropics I'll take this area over any other part of all the coasts.

What's the new ship? And I assume WestMarine is a place you stop as often as Trader Joe's?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 06:56 PM (1m82a)

120 Oooh! I really like that painting, Polynikes!

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 12, 2025 06:56 PM (rF2iL)

121 Rock skipping contests are the bomb

Double elimination. One on one. Add three throws together. Winner goes to meet winner. Loser to loser. If you lose twice, you’re out.

Between kids, parents and grands we had 9-12 of us depending on the camping trip.

My friend Tina’s mom won a bunch. So did my Marine. I won a couple times.

Very competitive group. No “letting the kids win” with us.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 06:57 PM (XS2xc)

122 Our youngest daughter has always been fascinated by rocks of all kinds. Anytime we woukd vacation out west she had ine bag for rocks. When she filled it that was it. It was so bad that at Yellowstone we told her that all the ricks were numbered and tagged like the animals so the rangers knew if one was taken.

Posted by: Megthered at July 12, 2025 06:58 PM (GOJbT)

123 I've always wanted to use feldspar as a pun, but I can't make it work. I remember my 8th grade geology teacher calling it "feldshparr." Kind of a Sean Connery thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 06:58 PM (0aYVJ)

124 Paul's drawing is brilliant. Sort of a doodle on steroids. The specific details are so accurate in both buildings and feeling of DC. (Stupid rules and laws and, especially, the inhabitants.) I could look at that for hours just picking out the details and nuances. This is like Mad Magazine humor when it was at its best.

Glad TRex included the enlarged areas. Makes things easier on the eyes.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 06:59 PM (yTvNw)

125 I have a bottle of raw opals I bought in Australia, one of them is a fossilized clam, with a band of opal in it.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 06:59 PM (K2fwt)

126 I was thinking Polynike's paintings are better than many we see on the art thread.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (+qU29)

127 TRex is SUPREMELY kind for posting this artwork of mine. If I had the time, I'd do this kind of drawing all the time. Then again, DC is a huge joke in itself, as long as you can dodge the bulletry (OK, I made that word up) mostly in Southeast. Where, ironically, I used to work.

As for Wenda's comment above about jade: " Gump's Department Store in San Francisco began as a store for jade. Mr. Gump had incredible skill at choosing the very best. And he was blind. He could tell just from the touch." Joe Biden can choose the best kids. He could just tell from smell.

Posted by: Paul Nowak at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (YC7Ue)

128 I was sitting out on our back patio (roofed) watching a light rain come through, but the cat (sitting next to me) got nervous after a couple of lighting bolts with one second between the flash and the boom (more like a real loud crack).
So just to make the cat happy, I came indoors.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (Hlfhp)

129 Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 06:53 PM (viF8m)

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I got a Hunter 27-3. It's got 20 years on it but it looks like it left the factory yesterday. Roller furling on both the headsail and the mainsail, a 15-hp Yanmar diesel, nice suite of electronics. It's got the heft of a much larger boat and it fits in my existing slip.

I'm over the moon with this girl.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (BK31K)

130 My office has several rock hounds, and they are on constant lookout for obsidian. This being Idaho, it's fairly plentiful, but you still gotta know what you're looking for.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (0aYVJ)

131 Nah. Be boulder. Keep going.
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 06:55 PM (Eaoic)

Seriously. You need to straighten up and pyrite, or you're gonna get it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:02 PM (h7ZuX)

132 129 I'm over the moon with this girl.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM
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Congrats!

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:02 PM (Eaoic)

133 Yeah that drawing by Paul is fanstastic.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:04 PM (1m82a)

134 >>I'm over the moon with this girl.

Congratulations! Many happy days at sea.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:04 PM (viF8m)

135 The Obsidian Order

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 07:04 PM (63Dwl)

136 Started rockhounding 5-6 years ago, a major part of it looking for thundereggs (the state rock of Oregon). They are like a geode but are usually filled with agate, or sometimes jasper or common opal. Many are quite beautiful when cut and polished.

Oregon has Succor Creek state park created for rockhounding, made by land swaps with the Feds. It has T-eggs, Owyhee landscape jasper, and many other goodies. Finders keepers.

Posted by: Hal Dall at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (qGL+/)

137 I do have a rock tumbler and some stones that were meant to be polished. Nothing valuable, of course. I've never used it for rocks. However, it is excellent for tumbling and polishing brass for reloading. Especially good for cleaning fired black powder cases which require cleaning after each use as the fouling can eat into the brass eventually.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (yTvNw)

138 'southern end of the San Andreas fault look like'

To find out take scuba gear! The end is under water in the sea of Cortez.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (K2fwt)

139 131 Seriously. You need to straighten up and pyrite, or you're gonna get it.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:02 PM
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Not my fault.

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM (Eaoic)

140 Are there any Waldos in that DC drawing?

Posted by: Emmie celebrates the Audacity of Trump! at July 12, 2025 07:06 PM (rF2iL)

141 Geodes are usually a spectacular find for the casual collector.

In 5th grade, I had an awesome science teacher. At the end of our geology study segment, she took us on a field trip to collect fossils. She knew a bunch of rich locations, and everyone found a good number of fossils.

She then took us to her "secret" geode location. Several of us found some very nice geodes.

The next summer, I was at a Boy Scout camp about 20 miles away from her secret location, and noticed that the rocks exposed in the creek bank looked eerily similar to the rocks where we previously had collected geodes.

I started digging at the bank, and immediately began finding excellent geode candidates. I grabbed my day pack and proceeded to fill it up.

I went up to the main cabin and started washing the clay off of my finds, and then laid them out to dry. Several of the main scout leaders came out to observe this bizarre activity, and asked what I was doing. I told them I had found a bunch of geodes!

They were very skeptical, so I asked if there was a hammer in the lodge. They grabbed a hammer and I started cracking geodes. They were in awe at the beauty of some of my geodes.

end Part 1.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)

142 Part 2.)

One of the old-timers said he had been coming to this camp for 25 years, and supervised at a least a thousand scouts. He asked why I was the only one that had EVER found a geode. My reply, “They weren’t looking for geodes!”

That is the point of this long story. If you aren’t actually looking FOR something right in front of your nose, you will never see it. If you ever did have some good finds in a particular “secret” spot, and you see a similar spot in the future, then look hard for your previous type of “treasures”. You might actually be in a better spot right there.

Examples of this would be if you are at a friend’s cabin and they have some rock outcrops on their property. There is a chance that zero rockhounds have ever scoured that rock face and rubble pile. That is where you have a chance to make some truly exquisite discoveries!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)

143 138 'southern end of the San Andreas fault look like'

To find out take scuba gear! The end is under water in the sea of Cortez.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM
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Picky, picky. Correct though.

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (Eaoic)

144 It's got the heft of a much larger boat and it fits in my existing slip.

I'm over the moon with this girl.
Posted by: Cicero

Nice! congrats!!!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (K2fwt)

145 I was thinking Polynike's paintings are better than many we see on the art thread.
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (+qU29)

Thanks Skip though only probably just a few ( I'm looking at you Nekkid Man on an Ottoman).

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (VofaG)

146 130 My office has several rock hounds, and they are on constant lookout for obsidian. This being Idaho, it's fairly plentiful, but you still gotta know what you're looking for.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (0aYVJ)

My grandfather had a small rock shop when I was small. Didn’t really make money but he loved it, and he’d polish things make jewelry cut geodes etc.
He would drive out to visit us in Phoenix, and he and my father knew of this volcanic cone out in the desert which at that time (late 60’s) was completely unattended, unregulated. They would go out in my dads old Rambler station wagon and come back with 300 to 400 pounds of hardened ash deposits which would be packed with “Apache Tears” - 1 to 2” diameter teardrop shaped nuggets of pure smoky obsidian. Used to have a lot of those sitting around dads house.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (Hlfhp)

147 I have had Bryan Adam's 'Please forgive me' stuck in my head all day.

... more 'soft' rock.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (zZu0s)

148 Great stuff PI. Thanks for sharing your stories.

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (Eaoic)

149 Cicero, nice. Perfect for a weekend trip to Catalina. Or better, San Clemente Is. Anchor off the cliffs on the southwest part of Pyramid Cove. Go spear or line-fish some kelp fish for dinner. Watch the sea lions cavorting around you. Enjoy your morning coffee watching the helos and fighters and special boat outfits doing their thing up in the cove.

Motor out at night, depending on conditions you've got a pretty good reach back to Dana Point.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:09 PM (1m82a)

150 Thanks Skip though only probably just a few ( I'm looking at you Nekkid Man on an Ottoman).

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:08 PM (VofaG)

Definitely better than the gay sailor/penguin one.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM (zZu0s)

151 One of my bucket list items is to find a diamond at the diamond park in Alabama.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM (K2fwt)

152 During covid I home schooled a couple of the grandkids. I put together a geology block for science. Just a walk through the neighborhood yielded a fascinating collection of different stones. We had fun.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (W/lyH)

153 Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:09 PM (1m82a)

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I have a lot of plans. I'm just working to get my sea legs in the new vessel now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (BK31K)

154 Polynikes some of CBD's picks are hardly more than paint by numbers

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (+qU29)

155 I'm over the moon with this girl.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:01 PM (BK31K)

You have any long trips planned? I can't remember which ocean you're on.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)

156 Polynikes some of CBD's picks are hardly more than paint by numbers
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (+qU29)

Especially that Caravaggio guy. I don't think he's ever going anywhere.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 07:12 PM (zZu0s)

157 151 One of my bucket list items is to find a diamond at the diamond park in Alabama.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM
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Always wondered if that's a for real thing or a tourist trap (or both).

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:12 PM (Eaoic)

158 One of my bucket list items is to find a diamond at the diamond park in Alabama.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:10 PM

You mean Arkansas?

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:13 PM (VofaG)

159 107 My wife’s best friend had a father who was a geologist. They would take long car trips through the west, and she said the worst part was always when they would crest some ridge and then her dad would stop the car, get out and give them all a 30 minute lecture on what an Anticline was and why they could see one right there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 06:48 PM

My wife definitely can feel her pain!

Later in life, I would only stop the car when I could also show the kids some pronghorns on the hillside that formed the anticline, and then pick a handful of beautiful wildflowers for the three girls (and mom).

I am a Renaissance Dork!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:14 PM (HlyYF)

160 Sort of rock-related. In Brazil a major state in the center/north is called Minas Gerais (yes, "general mines"). The area is an extraordinary geologic phenomenon, in general (I think this is the area that has such a huge concentration of iron near the surface that it affects the planet's magnetic field?). Of course gold and silver rushes put it on the map in colonial days.

Anyway was there many moons ago. Place is famous for incredibly cheap, and well-cut, semi-precious stones. Aquamarine, tourmalines of many colors, amethyst. Didn't have much time to go out to the smaller towns to bargain hunt (they said you could pick semi-precious stones out of your tires in one place with dirt roads).

So with the Brazilian gf went into a shop in Belo Horizonte, the capital, and with a credit card paid for a bunch of amethysts and tourmalines. They had big glass bowls full of these cut stones. When I got back, went to a place in Georgetown that did geodes/minerals/etc and they offered to pay 3X what I had paid. Gave them all to family and a gf to set into jewelry, beautiful stuff.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (1m82a)

161 Pillage Idiot, don't know if you saw, but I didn't get the email. Try again? I can't find my picture of that rock, but I'll find the rock and take another. And I have some other cool stuff I found in Wyoming that you might be able to id for me.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (h7ZuX)

162 I have a rock collection. And an arrowhead collection. They kind of overlap.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (vFG9F)

163 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:07 PM (HlyYF)

I’ve taken my grandson to a local rock show, and there was a man there with a pile of unopened geodes, and for $10 (more if it was really big) you could buy one and he’d split it for you. Now he was good, and I know from him ( and I know that you know too) that you don’t just whack it with a hammer to get a clean split. (He had this pressure device that would crack them like a big walnut)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:17 PM (Hlfhp)

164 Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:16 PM (1m82a)

Did you have to declare to customs when you returned home?

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:17 PM (VofaG)

165 I have this weird rock that looks like a chocolate frosted brownie that I've never been able to identify.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F)

166 Men. Hard up for a b-day idea? Get that bitch a crystal. Bitches love crystals.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (lPvx2)

167 Geodes are the most amazing things. I have a couple on my hutch, cracked open to reveal the pretty crystals.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (dyL4B)

168 Crater of Diamonds State Park in Arkansas. Every once in a while someone poking around there comes up with rock worth millions.

Hate it break it to her....
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Correction, i would have been in the wrong State

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (K2fwt)

169
You mean Arkansas?
Posted by: polynikes

Yes!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (K2fwt)

170 have this weird rock that looks like a chocolate frosted brownie that I've never been able to identify.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (vFG9F)

Might be dinosaur poop.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (VofaG)

171 166 Men. Hard up for a b-day idea? Get that bitch a crystal. Bitches love crystals.
Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 07:18 PM (lPvx2)

LOL

Works for me! A chunk of turquoise is even better, though.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:19 PM (h7ZuX)

172 You have any long trips planned? I can't remember which ocean you're on.
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)

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Pacific, last time I checked.

Catalina Island is kind of the standard overnighter around here but when I retire I may make a run for the Drake Passage.

You know, following in Shackleton's wake and all.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:20 PM (BK31K)

173 "Might be dinosaur poop.
Posted by: polynikes"

It looks to be igneous. It's heavy and dense.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:21 PM (vFG9F)

174 >>Sort of rock-related. In Brazil a major state in the center/north is called Minas Gerais (yes, "general mines")

In Chile, Lapis Lazuli is big. And cheap. Somewhere I've got Easter Island head made of Lapis that I picked up cheap in Chile.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:21 PM (viF8m)

175 Always wondered if that's a for real thing or a tourist trap (or both).
Posted by: TRex

It's real. I have a suspicion that DeBeers bribed someone to make it a park.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:22 PM (K2fwt)

176 Hmm, was just checking the San Clemente Island website. I always like it because it was the only one I've ever seen that gives notices about closed areas on particular days to inlcude *below* the surface, down to the ocean floor. In case you were thinking of diving down hundreds of feet I guess. Lots of interesting stuff goes on there, most of it "black".

Typically they would try to keep the south end (Pyramid Cove area) open in summer, especially weekends, since it is a great recreational boating destination. Looks like some weekends this summer are busy.

scisland.org

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:23 PM (1m82a)

177 Time to say thank you and good night before the next act takes the Ace of Spades stage. Thanks to Paul and polynikes for the submissions. Thanks to all for reading and commenting. You rock. Different theme next week, so come back and see what mischief we can find.

Enjoy the movie thread when it emerges and see y'all later on Club ONT!

Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:23 PM (Eaoic)

178 I always loved Turquoise, a beautiful stone! There’s a lot of it in Arizona, because it’s associated with Copper deposits.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:23 PM (Hlfhp)

179 I may make a run for the Drake Passage.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 07:20 PM (BK31K)

Ya got a death wish or something? You and Jackstraw . I pucker up just thinking about being on a boat in those rough seas.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:24 PM (VofaG)

180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)

181 When my wife was younger, her parents took her to Crater of Diamonds park a couple times because it’s not that far from Shreveport. (A couple hours). She’s still mad that all she ever found was fire ants.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:26 PM (Hlfhp)

182 180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)

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Pfft.

Piker.

Posted by: The Solutreans at July 12, 2025 07:26 PM (BK31K)

183 So the topic is mining. Just kidding, sort of.
Rock hounds need to visit Middlegate NV. You can do it youself or just buy what you want in their shop. Huge selection.
Mrs R collects and we do it once every couple of years.
Long boring drive through Fallon Naval Air Station to ge there. Well between ranges.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 07:26 PM (lPvx2)

184 polynikes, good question, and I think yes - might have even paid a small duty (it's based on declared $ spent on it). And that could be a thing. Of course with prices like that, people would bring back 30 lbs. of semi-precious stones they could sell for 5X up here, so customs was interested in it.

One of the best things I've ever acquired overseas, the jewelry with these things is still beautiful and of course timeless.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (1m82a)

185 Might be dinosaur poop.
Posted by: polynikes"

It looks to be igneous. It's heavy and dense.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:21 PM (vFG9F)

Now you reminded me I really want to find a meteorite. They go for big bucks but I'd probably keep it. I'm an interstellar info nut.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (VofaG)

186 Thanks Trex!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (K2fwt)

187 When my grandparents lived in Indiana they had a cabin at a lake and the yard had white geodes all over the place, weathering out of the ground. Over time they had lined the walkway out front with unbroken ones, spherical and looking somewhat like little volleyballs up to about 12" across. We busted a few open and I've still got a smaller unbroken one.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (vFG9F)

188 Collecting geodes:

Geodes are almost always "nodular" in form. That is your starting point.

However, a good candidate (prior to opening) will actually feel too light!

A geode will always feel lighter than a chunk of "host" rock of the same size. The void space for the crystals makes that big of a difference. From just the heft of a nodule, you can determine if it is a good candidate.

In the area where I have collected the most geodes, the very lightest ones are actually bad specimens. They are usually just a hollow nodule with a thin coating of tiny, unimpressive crystals.

You can "open" geodes with a common hammer. However, for safety reasons a rock hammer is better, and you MUST wear eye protection. High velocity shards are very common.

If you do find a good cache of geodes, and they are being damaged by the hammer technique, then go buy a cheap "wet tile saw" with a diamond blade at your bigbox hardware store. They will squirt water on the blade and you can slowly cut your geodes in half, or even "section" them if the infilled crystals are very strongly formed.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:27 PM (HlyYF)

189 >>Ya got a death wish or something? You and Jackstraw . I pucker up just thinking about being on a boat in those rough seas.

A friend of mine has gone around the Horn twice on sailboats. He described it as standing on the hood of your car in the middle of a driving rain storm while hitting gigantic potholes constantly.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:28 PM (viF8m)

190 80 I just sent you an email on the address in your nic!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 06:23 PM (HlyYF)

Hm...not seeing it
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM

Is the email in your nic still active?

If so, I will try again.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:29 PM (HlyYF)

191 If you're close to Fallon, NV, continue south a bit to Hawthorne, and check out the ordnance museum. Very interesting. An enormous ordnance depot was established there and was a principal way-point for all the stuff coming west for the Pacific in WWII..

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:29 PM (1m82a)

192 A friend of mine has gone around the Horn twice on sailboats. He described it as standing on the hood of your car in the middle of a driving rain storm while hitting gigantic potholes constantly.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:28 PM (viF8m)

At least they would be able to find me if I fell off into one of those potholes. You white boyz be crazy is what my friend would say,

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:30 PM (VofaG)

193 Once on a highway from Hampton to Williamsburg then beyond in middle of the night saw a meteor flash in front of me and sworn I was going to crash into a crater.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)

194 I have always been interested in rocks and minerals and fossils. I brought a big box of interesting rocks with me from Arizona when I moved back east. One of them looks like it's shot through with silver but I can't really profit from it since....ummmm...it may have been something I found in an arroyo in a county park. Maybe.

When I lived in Fairfax, Va, there were several very large pieces of quartz on the property, and one of them yielded a bottle-cap full of golden flakes (after I hammered on it for a couple of hours). Could be gold. I dropped the flakes in a glass of water and they immediately shot to the bottom of the glass.

I also have a trilobite fossil somewhere.

Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (mADJX)

195 "You can "open" geodes with a common hammer. However, for safety reasons a rock hammer is better, and you MUST wear eye protection. High velocity shards are very common."

You can also bang two together if you are young and foolish and don't have a hammer.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (vFG9F)

196 180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)

That's pretty awesome, though. I've never found any of these.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (h7ZuX)

197 Rocks are pretty cool. When I drive cross-country, I love driving past where they've dynamited mountains to put interstates, where you can see the layers and how they deformed. I even have a book on the geologic processes of the Grand Canyon in my library (next to "Deaths in the Grand Canyon")...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (ynpvh)

198 Moviegique has a nood

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (+qU29)

199 Took wife to Mackinac Island last year.
Since then she found out bout "yooperlite" and is upset that I didn't get her some.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (/lPRQ)

200 Around the Horn? Wow. That would be intense.

Worst I've done was the convergence zone off Cabo. But in a catamaran, it's pretty rough and challenging. We actually turned around the first night and tried again the next day.

And then there was the time, with a chartered 35-footer out of South River just below Annapolis, on a brutal humid mostly calm August day, a huge thunderstorm came in from the northwest (as always). The hot boring day suddenly got interesting. I was the only one on the boat who was a sailor, some of the girls got excited. I don't recall how today's senior senator from MD handled it, sure he was OK. Anyway timing is everything, we pulled up to the dock just as things got really sporty - pulled down the jib, then reefed the main, on the mad dash in, as the winds grew.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (1m82a)

201 196 180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:25 PM (Hw6WF)

That's pretty awesome, though. I've never found any of these.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:32 PM (h7ZuX)

My Dad had some radioactive rocks that went with his Geiger counter...I used to play with them when I was a kid...might explain a few things.
I loved the fused sand from the Trinity blast.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 12, 2025 07:33 PM (ynpvh)

202 180 My rock collecting is limited to arrowheads, spear points, and tools from 10K yrs ago.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert

I have a cousin who has ben extremely lucky at finding arrowheads and spear points, and he even taught himself how to make them.

Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2025 07:34 PM (mADJX)

203 Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:31 PM (+qU29)

That is frightening cool. Did you stop or realize after that it happened farther away than you thought?

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:34 PM (VofaG)

204 Ruri Rocks -

New anime about geology, with an emphasis on mineralogy.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 12, 2025 07:35 PM (4JxUz)

205 Is the email in your nic still active?

If so, I will try again.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:29 PM (HlyYF)

Yes, I sent myself an email from another address to make sure.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:35 PM (h7ZuX)

206 Whoa Charlie Kirk Turning Point student rally speaker line up is serious! Russell Brand who has surprisingly fresh Christian perrspective then Tom Homan who called out punks and haters then Tulsi Gabbard besides having a great ass Tulsi conveyed what it truly means to be American. Wow second look at Tulsi

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:36 PM (uEWUd)

207 137 I do have a rock tumbler and some stones that were meant to be polished. Nothing valuable, of course. I've never used it for rocks. However, it is excellent for tumbling and polishing brass for reloading. Especially good for cleaning fired black powder cases which require cleaning after each use as the fouling can eat into the brass eventually.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 07:05 PM

I was also going to do a post on rock tumblers.

If you are a grandparent, I think they might be a good gift (obviously depending on the personality of the kid).

And, as JTB says, you can also polish your brass.

Usually the tumblers come with at least one load of rocks to be tumbled. The good thing is that you will be teaching the grandkids the value of "patience". It takes a while to do the rocks, but they can see the slight improvement of each step as you change grits. Of course, the most dramatic improvement is the polishing grit at the very end. Many girls will like the beauty of the rocks, many boys will think the process and results were cool.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 07:36 PM (HlyYF)

208 Dad and I would go camping here in WNC and I could always find amethyst in the creek beds.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 07:39 PM (Hw6WF)

209 Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:36 PM (uEWUd)

I always liked her a took her liberal positions as just part of her being a woman ( swayed by the innate empathy women have) . I think she found out that her empathy better served by a conservative perspective.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 07:39 PM (VofaG)

210 All Star line up on Charlie Kiks TP USA. Kristie Noem is speaking this broad is slammin..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:41 PM (uEWUd)

211 I got a Hunter 27-3. It's got 20 years on it but it looks like it left the factory yesterday. Roller furling on both the headsail and the mainsail, a 15-hp Yanmar diesel, nice suite of electronics. It's got the heft of a much larger boat and it fits in my existing slip.
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I'm filled with envy of you folk that have boats, especially a craft as yours.

FWIW, I have a large framed print of this, over the mantle in the den: https://winslowhomer.org/breezing-up.jsp

Note that the old guy has turned the tiller over to one of the kids, but, he maintains control of the main sheet.

Rolled up in a corner of the den is a chart: 'Cape Hatteras, Wimble Shoals to Ocracoke Inlet'. Also, the requsite barometer, humidity, and temperature instruments on the wall. Passive instruments, no batteries.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 07:42 PM (XeU6L)

212 Evening Hobby Thread folks. Will hang out here until ONT-time. Not a movie fan.

Finally got the input drum for my Suburban transmission assembled. Found all the wrong ways to do it before finding the right way (hopefully).

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (m6YJY)

213 Dad and I would go camping here in WNC and I could always find amethyst in the creek beds.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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A. How are you? Not sure that we have 'spoken' since The Storm. How did you make out?

B. I have an example of native amethyst on my desk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 07:45 PM (XeU6L)

214 209
I'm all in. These girls are awesome.
Kristie is just wow....nice btw Tom Homam went all old school and cursed like it was 1944.. Tom got big cheers from the college crowd..

Posted by: Captain Fantastic at July 12, 2025 07:46 PM (uEWUd)

215 >>FWIW, I have a large framed print of this, over the mantle in the den: https://winslowhomer.org/breezing-up.jsp

I posted that on CBD's art thread on Friday. One of my favorites.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 07:48 PM (viF8m)

216 Not fond of the movies, either. Out until books in the a.m., prolly.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at July 12, 2025 07:51 PM (h7ZuX)

217
I posted that on CBD's art thread on Friday. One of my favorites.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Ah! And I missed it...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 07:55 PM (XeU6L)

218 The thing is, there was a place that we went to in Colorado or Wyoming that had a field of black rocks and sand and the rocks were full of these spiral cone shaped fossils. I've always wondered where that was.

My father would cut the rocks into pieces and shape and polish them to make jewelry with.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at July 12, 2025 06:33 PM (VmDLh)

There is a marine snail called Turretella which has a spiral cone shell. There are also some forams with that pattern, IIRC.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 07:59 PM (66G1t)

219 A. How are you? Not sure that we have 'spoken' since The Storm. How did you make out?

B. I have an example of native amethyst on my desk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Sick of chemo. Still got 2 more treatments to go. White and red blood cell counts both below normal.

Trying to sell my rental house in Waynesville, if you happen to know of anyone looking for a 5 bedroom 2000 sq ft house outside city limits.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at July 12, 2025 08:03 PM (Hw6WF)

220 Always wondered if that's a for real thing or a tourist trap (or both).
Posted by: TRex at July 12, 2025 07:12 PM (Eaoic)

My understanding that it is a real genuine diamond-bearing kimberlite pipe, but not rich enough to support a commercial diamond mine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 08:08 PM (66G1t)

221 Sick of chemo. Still got 2 more treatments to go. White and red blood cell counts both below normal.

Trying to sell my rental house in Waynesville, if you happen to know of anyone looking for a 5 bedroom 2000 sq ft house outside city limits.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Yeah, chemo can be brutal, exhusting. I'll send up prayers, and my thoughts are with you. Hang tough. If you still have my email, let me know if there's anything I can help with.

Not sure what the housing market is doing around here post-Storm. I see the value of mine probably dropping on account of neglect.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 08:12 PM (XeU6L)

222 Intertubes tells me there are now 7 courses at Bandon Golf Resort,
Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 06:40 PM (VofaG)

*starts planning trip to Bandon*
Posted by: Diogenes
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Dang, been too long since playing there. Three courses my last visit.

Posted by: scampydog at July 12, 2025 08:19 PM (LVaYG)

223
I’ve taken my grandson to a local rock show, and there was a man there with a pile of unopened geodes, and for $10 (more if it was really big) you could buy one and he’d split it for you. Now he was good, and I know from him ( and I know that you know too) that you don’t just whack it with a hammer to get a clean split. (He had this pressure device that would crack them like a big walnut)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 07:17 PM (Hlfhp)
We used to have an active rock club here in town and took trips all over. Mrs. E was the dedicated rockhound, and I was the dedicated burro.

Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 08:38 PM (LHPAg)

224 Rocks.
I like to keep rocks from places I visited. I guy a few as well. Got a trilobite - the specific species lived between 416m and 333m years ago.

I especially like my Banded Iron Formation rock from Wyoming. 2.5 to 2.1 Billion years ago. Banded Iron is special because it shows the process of The Great Oxygenation Event. There are about 20 bands visible in this rock. Each one shows blue-green algae pumping out oxygen until it poisoned them or plain iron that accumulated when the oxygen wasn't being pumped out.

EVENTUALLY, blue-green algae evolved that weren't poisoned by their own oxygen and almost all the iron in the ocean oxidized and fell to the bottom. No more bands after that.

Posted by: comradearthur at July 12, 2025 09:02 PM (lJ0uc)

225 I pick up pretty rocks once in a while, put them in my potted plants and around the flower garden.

River rocks are cool. I like how they're so smooth from being tumbled around. There's a big one by my front door, that I use as a stop for the screendoor while unloading groceries.

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 09:47 PM (rdVOm)

226 Thanks for another good Hobby Thread, TRex.

I was going to type more advice to amateur rockhounds but got called to dinner by the Boss!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 10:56 PM (HlyYF)

Ace of Spades Pet Thread July 12

Courtesy Misanthropic Humanitarian

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Good afternoon and welcome to the almost world famous Ace of Spades Pet Thread. Thanks for stopping by. Kick back and enjoy the world of animals.

Would you like a treat?

Let's relax a little with the animals and leave the world of politics and current events outside today.

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Hi Katy,
Hope you're feeling great. Just found this.
Regards from Jerusalem,
Biden's Dog

Delivery men vs dogs 🤣🤣 pic.twitter.com/ORfbl2JHP7
— non aesthetic things (@PicturesFoIder) May 6, 2025

Dogs that may keep you out of social situations altogether!

We confine our smaller dog when we open the door to strangers to keep them from trying to snuggle him (he was traumatized as a pup). The larger dog goes to the door with us (usually).

Do you have a dog with whom you take any precautions around people?

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A dog with friends in the neighborhood:

Bro sees older dog done with his walk, lends owner a wagon to help get the dog home pic.twitter.com/yYadfkCv96
— B&S (@_B___S) July 11, 2025

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Still life with cat, Dr_No

Still Life w_Cat_original_09122002_rev_05072023.jpg

Restful.

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From Popular Mechanice, a new cat color from Finland, "Salty Liquorice". They seem to be trying to neuter all the strays they find with the new color. Smart?

Meanwhile, orange cat:

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Meet The PetMorons

I've emailed the thread before about Lily (Sheltie) and Pinky (Silky Terrier). I'm sad to report that Miss Pinky passed on 4/30 and my life hasn't been the same since. She was my adventure buddy, car ride buddy, and morning walk buddy...she was a month shy of 18 years old. My life was better with that tiny little dog in it, and her absence is felt. I miss her terribly - without her to tell me what to do all day, I've been a little lost. Lily, as sweet as she is, didn't seem to care much that Pinks is gone, but she seems glad to get ALL of the hamburger I cook instead of just half.
Attached is a picture of Pinks on my bean bag footstool she took over, taken a day before she lied down and wouldn't get back up.
Thanks for letting me share a bit of Pinks, she is irreplaceable, the most special of special tiny dogs. My heart is broken.
Lurker - Jerake75

So sorry that you have lost Pinky. What a sweetheart. Glad you still have Lily.

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&&&

Good afternoon Pet Morons. Hope all finds you well.
Since my post last week, the chicks are continuing to grow. Chicks C & D have more than doubled their weight and at the weekly weigh in came in at 9 and 8 grams respectively. Chick A & B's eyes have opened, a picture of Chick B attached.
Last week I mentioned what we call the red, yellow and green zones of hatchling development. This is a reflection of the mortality threat for these tiny creatures. See below:
Red Zone Day 0 to Day 2
Yellow Zone Day 3 to day 10
Green Zone Day 11 forward
If you can get them to the Green zone, chances are that they will continue to grow and develop, but there are no guarantees.
Unfortunately there are clouds on the horizon for Chick A. He appears to be developing Splay Legs. That is when the chick can't get its feet under him and they just 'splay' out in front of them. There is a picture attached and it's pretty clear what the problem is when compared to the other image of Chick B. The good news is that there is a treatment protocol for this condition. I'm posting this on Wednesday, 7/9 and have an appointment with our avian vet on Friday. I'll fill you in next week on how that went.
Regards,
David

Hope things go well for Chick A.

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Good afternoon Pet Morons. Hope all finds you well.
Since my post last week, the chicks are continuing to grow. Chicks C & D have more than doubled their weight and at the weekly weigh in came in at 9 and 8 grams respectively. Chick A & B's eyes have opened, a picture of Chick B attached.
Jill, the sedate lady on the left, and I recently welcomed Jax, our black Lab (All Labs Matter!) rescue. She’s been seen on the Pet Thread before, most recently as she was preparing for hunting season by watching an Outdoor TV video on pheasants. He’s the new addition. Has been added to our pack with only an occasional snarl. Jill: “Hello … no, I don’t come here often. No, I don’t care what your sign is. No I don’t want to dance. Yes, I have noticed that you have a penis … snarl.”
Our problem has been “fixed,” so to speak and he’s much more pleasant company for my bucket-list Lab, Jill.
My girl has had, since birth, about four or five white hairs on her muzzle. I know it’s stupid, but I want to take a magic marker and black them out so she won’t get older.
Onward, clc

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Found another special photo!

Feral Cuties:
A feral cat and her three kittens (two tuxedos and a grey tabby) have taken up residence beneath my back porch and often join me in lolling in the sun.
And yes, I know my porch desperately needs sanding and repainting. Soon!
Eris

I can see why you like having them around.

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Thank you for sharing your pets with us.

If you would like to send pet and/or animal stories, links, etc. for the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, the address is:

petmorons at protonmail dot com
Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

Until next Saturday, have a great week!

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If you start feeling nostalgic, here a link to last week's Pet Thread, the Ace of Spades Pet Thread, July 5

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 03:27 PM

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1 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM (+qU29)

2 Best of cluck

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 12, 2025 03:25 PM (x1HcI)

3 Meow

Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 03:27 PM (uGaBv)

4 Great videos, K.T.! That one with the delivery guys shows why they need to be young and agile.

Some of the dogs just wanted to play. Right?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 03:31 PM (kpS4V)

5 Mr Senegal aka Dinosaur Face says High!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 03:33 PM (1oN8o)

6 Critters!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 12, 2025 03:35 PM (2UnvF)

7 My surprise present barely weaned lorikeet would sit on his butt with his feet in front. He grew out of that.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 03:36 PM (1oN8o)

8 Hello Friends,

I have been trying to find a way to make sure the stray cat who lives at the disused car wash continues to be fed while I am on vacation in September. Think I have a couple of people at the YMCA tentatively on board. If I can get one more, that will take care of that.

The other issue is Keiko, the gorgeous longhair calico who has been dropping by in the evenings and allowing me to feed her so long as I don't get too close. I think I can ask our cat sitter to put out dry food for her when she drops by. It's only every other day, but it should be enough.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 12, 2025 03:36 PM (DIweC)

9 Woof!!! Great pet thread as always. The sad and uplifting stories above remind me how wonderful a gift our pet buddies are. Gracias K.T.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 12, 2025 03:37 PM (NGwH/)

10 The top cartoon is spot on. And since we have five critters in the house, at least one of them is in need of some sort of attention at any given time. 7:00 PM? Oops, gotta put the parrot to bed. 8:00 PM? Oops, dog is overdue for his meds.

Posted by: PabloD at July 12, 2025 03:39 PM (o2Win)

11 Every day when I leave work, I use the excuse that I have to feed my kitties. Of course, I could feed them later, but they have gotten used to their normal feeding time between 4:30 and 5:00 p.m.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (IBQGV)

12 We lost Precious the bichon last Monday. We knew she might have a brain tumor but she wasn't in pain and we worked around her fading mobility. That morning she had four serious seizures in less than 90 minutes. The emergency vet confirmed our fears and we made the decision before she could suffer more.

Precious was already older than the usual bichon life expectancy when we adopted her two years ago, so every day with her was a gift. We really miss that little ragamuffin.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (yTvNw)

13 Yes, I could never be a delivery driver because I'm not young and spry like those delivery folks and could not jump over a gate. Some of the videos were funny, though

Thanks for the update on the chicks, David
I am glad that the two labs are now getting along.

I am sorry about Pinky, Jerald. What a beautiful terrier.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 03:46 PM (2GCMq)

14 JTB: Sorry to read about Precious crossing the rainbow bridge. You and the Mrs. shared 2 good years with her and her with you and, no doubt, left you with great memories. Peace.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 12, 2025 03:49 PM (NGwH/)

15 Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (yTvNw)

Sorry about Precious, JTB.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 03:49 PM (2GCMq)

16 i read electric meters for nine years, had to enter the backyards. the postman has it easy.
running is only a good choice if you get out.

Posted by: cmeat at July 12, 2025 03:50 PM (GAyiy)

17 I'm very sorry about Pinky.

I had to watch my little buddy boy Jack lay down in the yard.

I know the feeling. We only have them for a little while.

Posted by: eleven at July 12, 2025 03:51 PM (fV+MH)

18 Katy the giant Kane Corso nearly knocked me over leaning against my leg at the dog park today. Sweet big dog.

Alternatively a yappy (looked like an Australian shepherd) puppy wanted to play with Reef and he was not kosher with it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 03:51 PM (zZu0s)

19 Found a feral photo from Eris!

Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 03:53 PM (xekrU)

20 Neighbors blue heeler puppy still in yapping stage. Wonder if he's even trying to housebreak her. I won't let her in. Last time she got belly skritches (outside) she peed for joy.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 03:55 PM (QGUa0)

21 My miniature dachshund has gotten very protective of me. He used to be Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky when we visited the vet. Now it's all teeth and growls. I have to disappear so the vet can examine him. They put on his chart that he "does better when Mom is not around."

Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2025 03:56 PM (lJ0H4)

22 We actually have a garden kitty who will climb the leg of a human approaching the front door. He was a feral raised by his even-more-feral mom on the neighbor's patio.

Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 03:58 PM (xekrU)

23 "If I was a delivery driver and was attacked by a dog I would sue the owners out of existence... how fucking dare they risk my injury even mutilation to deliver their bullshit!
Posted by: Just Sayin... "

Well, it was a Korean foot massager.

Posted by: eleven at July 12, 2025 03:59 PM (fV+MH)

24 Thank you for the Pet Thread K.T.!

Ohhh, Miss Pinky. I'm sorry.

And I hope the chick with splayed legs will be alright.

I'm taking care of 4 generations of cats this weekend. That's kind of funny. Only 4 cats. Great Grandma Starry, Grandma Snowflake who has been with me for 4 weeks and is now an indoor cat, her daughter Peaches and Peaches cat.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 04:01 PM (jvJvP)

25 Afternoon, pet folken,

A grand bunch of animules today. I especially liked the feral mom cat and her three kittens. Dr No's presentation of his black cat on the pink/red chair has the quality of a painting rather than a photo. (Of course it might be a painting, in which case my face is about the same shade as the chair.)

Stirling the great black cat, having had a stay regarding his vet appointment yesterday when my car's battery failed, was sleeping with me just now. He tends to do that nearly every afternoon. His stay had nothing to do with it.

I don't know where little Dagny La Siberienne has gotten off to. Soon I need to take a current pic of her and send her kitten shot and the new one to KT, so you can all see how much she has filled out in a little under three years.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:03 PM (omVj0)

26 I need horde advice. I have a lean cat and a chubby one. I don't mind my cat being chubby--she's adorable. But I'm aware of the danger of diabetes down the road. I don't want that.

The easy solution would be if I could feed the lean cat up high, since he is a good leaper, but his idea of eating is to scoop up a pawful and spread it around, then nibble. Big mess.

The vet has recommended one of those electronic feeders that only responds to one collar. Has anyone had success with them? A brand to recommend?

Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 04:03 PM (8p/ok)

27 My miniature dachshund has gotten very protective of me. He used to be Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky when we visited the vet. Now it's all teeth and growls. I have to disappear so the vet can examine him. They put on his chart that he "does better when Mom is not around."
Posted by: Tuna at July 12, 2025

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When Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 and I were visiting her grandparents in AZ, we asked her mother to go over and feed Arizona the big red tabby. Her mother swore that the cat took a stand on the stairs (it was a town house) and refused to let her climb to the second floor. Apparently he was very territorial. He wasn't worried about us when we were there, just about his kingdom.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:06 PM (omVj0)

28 Ciampino's daughter here.

Our cat Purrcy needs to see the vet. He is bleeding at times from his mouth. Thank you to the person who already donated last night.

We also received a new cat in our backyard. Picture included in my update #319

[Link to cat fund: https://t.co/iS8XTjbmSR]

This is my first pet thread. Sympathies to all who lost their furry friends. The mom and kittens on the deck are adorable.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 04:07 PM (sPQoU)

29 Sorry to hear about Precious and Pinky. Their going places with you must have increased your bond with them. Sometimes I wish I could bring one of my cats with me on errands. Big black longhair Wolf would have been *very* impressive.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:09 PM (omVj0)

30 A brand to recommend?

Squirrel boss.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 04:10 PM (QGUa0)

31 Hello Pet-friendly Morons. Hi, KT. Hope you're doing well.

Ran across this:

Jerome Horwitz, famous for playing CURLY in "THE THREE STOOGES", was known to all as a protector of dogs. … Curly is estimated to have saved and rescued more than 5,000 dogs in his lifetime.

xPost with more of the story
https://bit.ly/stooge-curlys-dogs

Good old YooToob didn't let me down
Curly barking

https://youtu.be/nT8y222SVwg

Posted by: mindful webworker - grrrahph at July 12, 2025 04:17 PM (+kBwA)

32 I bought cat treats to help keep Snowflake calm when she gets zoomy at night. She still wakes me up as soon as the sun comes up for feeding. I'm fine with that. I have a life to create.

I've been reading up on 'cat training.' Snowflake isn't much of a scratcher. I have her a big cat tree and a scratching post but she'd come in my room and go behind my LazyBoy and I'd hear clawing. Just once, I'd holler and she'd run.

Instead of a water bottle which is cruel, I bought another scratching post and put it behind the chair. She likes that.
And there's furniture strips bit I don't think I'll need them.

Our last issue is jumping on the counters. It's too much. My friend suggested aluminum foil. Tried it. Didn't work. I think I'm going to get double sided tape for cats, put it on the foil and tape the foil to the counter.

Hopefully that'll stop the jumping.

Thank all of you for helping me with the cats.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 04:17 PM (jvJvP)

33 I just walked out to my kitchen and saw an unusual sight.

A full-grown doe is resting in the shade in my backyard. She's beautiful.

Although I've seen deer roaming around my neighborhood from time to time, this is the first time I've seen one hanging out in my backyard.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:19 PM (IBQGV)

34 If you discount feral cats, all the "wildlife" I get to see from my window or door drive hoopties and smoke blunts.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:28 PM (omVj0)

35 If you discount feral cats, all the "wildlife" I get to see from my window or door drive hoopties and smoke blunts.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:28 PM (omVj0)
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You really need to move to a rural or semi-rural community. It's great!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:29 PM (IBQGV)

36 My friend suggested safe and economical household electricity.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 04:32 PM (QGUa0)

37 You really need to move to a rural or semi-rural community. It's great!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025

***
Believe me, I know it. When I'm recovered from the carving of this Monday, I'll plan my trip to Indiana for Sept. The town of Duncan, OK, has been recommended to me too, but that is two days' drive in the *other* direction, so I don't know if I can get to it that month.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:33 PM (omVj0)

38 I'm staying at my sister's farm. Her pond is teeming with fish. They're not as easy to catch. A heron shows up occasionally. A deer strolled through earlier. Bats come out in the evening and chow down on mosquitos. There are owls but I only hear them. She took a pic over the winter with two Great Horned Owls on a tree. The sun had just set. Cool pic! A large array of birds. Bald eagle flys by occasionally and a huge golden eagle, which I didn't know PA had.

Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:35 PM (uGaBv)

39 Believe me, I know it. When I'm recovered from the carving of this Monday, I'll plan my trip to Indiana for Sept. The town of Duncan, OK, has been recommended to me too, but that is two days' drive in the *other* direction, so I don't know if I can get to it that month.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:33 PM (omVj0)
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South-central MO is pretty nice. It's also about halfway between IN and OK...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:37 PM (IBQGV)

40 Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country

Isn't that a blessing to have a vacation at the farm and appreciate God's creation. Thanks for letting us know what you're seeing and hearing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 04:39 PM (2GCMq)

41 "Salty Liquorice". They seem to be trying to neuter all the strays they find with the new color. Smart?

I did not see any mention of neutering in the article. Maybe I skimmed too skimpily.

Posted by: Emmie at July 12, 2025 04:42 PM (rF2iL)

42 Haven't seen the golden eagle. Apparently they pass through when migrating. Lots of hawks though

Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:43 PM (uGaBv)

43 Baby Dagny is asleep on the cushion in my desk chair, in the darkened bedroom. Often I can't find her, only to discover she's gotten shut into one of the closets when I leave the door open. She never cries to be let out and never does any damage. I guess she sort of likes enclosed spaces and trusts that I will let her out eventually.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:44 PM (omVj0)

44 Sorry to learn about Precious, JTB.

Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 04:45 PM (xekrU)

45 From Popular Mechanice, a new cat color from Finland, "Salty Liquorice".

It's more than just a name. The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z

The Finns drop a few into a bottle to infuse with flavor before drinking it straight.

Posted by: Military Moron at July 12, 2025 04:46 PM (JCZqz)

46 The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z

The Finns drop a few into a bottle to infuse with flavor before drinking it straight.
Posted by: Military Moron at July 12, 2025

***
I hate ordinary licorice anyway. Salting it? I have trouble imagining that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 04:49 PM (omVj0)

47 The deer got up to munch on some of my shrubbery. Now she's laying down again in a different patch of shade.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 04:49 PM (IBQGV)

48 2 We lost Precious the bichon last Monday. We knew she might have a brain tumor but she wasn't in pain and we worked around her fading mobility. That morning she had four serious seizures in less than 90 minutes. The emergency vet confirmed our fears and we made the decision before she could suffer more.

Precious was already older than the usual bichon life expectancy when we adopted her two years ago, so every day with her was a gift. We really miss that little ragamuffin.
Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 03:42 PM (yTvNw
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So sorry for the loss of Precious. I've always liked bichons.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 04:52 PM (NpAcC)

49 It is very nice here, Fen. The Amish neighbors brought his kids over to fish in her pond. Don't know if they caught anything.

Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:54 PM (uGaBv)

50 JTB and I thank you for your kind words regarding the loss of our Precious.

Posted by: Mrs JTB at July 12, 2025 04:55 PM (yTvNw)

51 This is my first pet thread. Sympathies to all who lost their furry friends. The mom and kittens on the deck are adorable.
Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 04:07 PM (sPQoU)
******
Condolences to you and your family. Your dad will truly be missed around here.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 04:56 PM (NpAcC)

52 Good afternoon! apparently we just adopted our youngest boys two doggehs because they had to vacate their rental house. Pancho and Moose have never been to a vet and have no vaccines so we took them for checkups and shots and found out Pancho has heartworms. He’s now on the first round of meds.

The good news is they’re settling in with the other 3 dogs that live here and the Great Dane who is staying with us while the youngest daughter relocates. Oh, and the grandkids are with us this weekend.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 04:57 PM (3Ope8)

53 Sorry for the loss of Pinky. She looks just like my Australian terrier I had growing up.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 04:59 PM (NpAcC)

54 my porch desperately needs sanding and repainting.

HD power-wash and semi-transparent water proof stain.
Quicker if you don't need perfect color matching.

Posted by: DaveA at July 12, 2025 05:00 PM (FhXTo)

55 I had no idea delivery people posed such danger.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 05:01 PM (RIvkX)

56 Posted by: Puddleglum, meowin' in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 04:54 PM (uGaBv

That's nice about the kids coming over and what a change of pace for you from your daily work grind!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:01 PM (2GCMq)

57 This deer seems to think my backyard is one big smorgasbord. Now she's right outside my office window. My cat Jasmine is perched in the window and is ignoring her.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 05:01 PM (IBQGV)

58 Looked like all the bite monsters who went thru the door were pitties.

Just saying.

Posted by: DaveA at July 12, 2025 05:02 PM (FhXTo)

59 Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 04:57 PM (3Ope

Sounds like a full house! That's nice of you to take care of the dogs and am glad they're all getting along.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:03 PM (2GCMq)

60 I have a wagon just like that. Gorilla Carts.

Carries up to 1,500 lbs.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 12, 2025 05:07 PM (3Rpkk)

61 Some of those delivery men should try out for the Olympics.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 05:07 PM (NpAcC)

62 Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 05:07 PM (NpAcC)

LOL. Yes; I don't think I could have jumped like that even in my 20's or 30's.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:09 PM (2GCMq)

63 Some of those delivery men should try out for the Olympics.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 12, 2025 05:07
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Hurdles or high jump for sure.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 12, 2025 05:09 PM (Rrx0z)

64 Thank you for the Pet Thread, KT. Always a favorite.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 12, 2025 05:10 PM (Rrx0z)

65 We used to have elk herds now and then, circling the house, enjoying themselves in the gardens and patio. Maybe a dozen feet away.

Once when our dog needed to go out, I called the vet to ask how to handle it. She said deer were a problem, but she had never had a dog/elk incident. So we let him out.

He was a Bouvier--a herding dog. He was in heaven. Trotting proudly back and forth, clearly saying, My herd. The elk didn't mind.

Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 05:26 PM (8p/ok)

66 Great dog story!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:30 PM (2GCMq)

67 That deer is still out there. She's been hanging out in my yard for over an hour now.

She's resting in the shade again, probably trying to take a nap.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 12, 2025 05:32 PM (IBQGV)

68 Look at pic #2 of the conure chicks.

Now try and tell me that is NOT descended from dinosaurs!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:32 PM (HlyYF)

69 1 Happy Caturday everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM

Cats get a day once a week?

Dogs only get a few blistering hot days at the peak of summer?

That seems a bit unfair!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 12, 2025 05:35 PM (HlyYF)

70 Pancho is a 10 lb chihuahua. Gigi now has a purse dog.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 05:36 PM (3Ope8)

71 Post # 66 Was for Wenda . Sorry

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:37 PM (2GCMq)

72 I heard a long, low, almost demonic howl at 3am Thursday. It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. Lucy was hiding.

Found out the next day there a freaking BOBCAT in the neighborhood! Google how a bobcat sounds and you will understand why I was so freaked out.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 05:38 PM (mT+6a)

73 Listen and tell me you aren’t afraid

https://tinyurl.com/yyeweew4

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 05:39 PM (mT+6a)

74 Mamma and Pappaw had a chihuahua named Pancho.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 05:43 PM (Yamow)

75 Hobby thread is nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 05:48 PM (Yamow)

76 Something else we have from this time till about October is bear. When w have guests with ground-level windows we warn them, because bear have been known to just walk in.

Last summer I had an impressive volunteer beehive in one of my aspens. I checked it daily, feeling like Winnie-the-Pooh, and one morning the hive lay in pieces on the driveway. And yes, bear scat right there to tell me who dun it.

Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 05:50 PM (8p/ok)

77 Well, Eris can't sand and paint that porch NOW!! You'd wake up the cats!!

There are time-honored rules about these things.

Posted by: Persnickety at July 12, 2025 06:19 PM (jJdyX)

78 I've had a number of bad experiences with feral cats and the people who enable them.

Think of cat ladies so irresponsible that they dump their fetish on a neighborhood.

I don't think people would approve of wild dogs running around.

These are not pets, they are wild animals. Pet's need to be socialized.

If you have them around they are eating the birds. lots of them. All the time.

Don't kid yourself.

Posted by: pawn at July 12, 2025 06:25 PM (QB+5g)

79 Welcome Joyenz !

I hope you find us as entertaining and insightful as your father did.

Posted by: pawn at July 12, 2025 06:28 PM (QB+5g)

80 It was time for bed last night and I decided to treat my dog and let him out for one last run around the yard. Mistake. He found a rabbit that the cat had left on the porch. I don't know if it was a gift or if the cat left it there and intended to return and eat it. Regardless, it now belonged to the dog.

He carried it around for awhile, then finally ate it. I sat up and waited for him and waited to be sure he didn't have to puke it up and eat it again, like the last one. So, I ended up staying up an extra hour and a half so he could get a belly full of bunny. It's his third rabbit this year, thanks to his feline brother.

Posted by: windbag at July 12, 2025 06:34 PM (agbau)

81 @ 25 Afternoon, pet folken,

A grand bunch of animules today. I especially liked the feral mom cat and her three kittens. Dr No's presentation of his black cat on the pink/red chair has the quality of a painting rather than a photo. (Of course it might be a painting, in which case my face is about the same shade as the chair.)
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Thankee kindly, Mr Wolfus - but: that's not my cat. I found it sleeping (or resting) on the chair arm somewhere on Dauphine Street in the Bywater District (not far from where the F Edward Hebert Hospital used to be). I don't think a nuke would have disturbed that cat's slumber ... it was an interesting 'found' composition, tho'.

Posted by: Dr_No at July 12, 2025 07:03 PM (ayRl+)

Gardening, Home and Nature Thread, July 12

Some lovely alstromeria from Neal in Israel.

Which color do you like best? I currently have some that resemble the pale ones above in a florist's bouquet.

Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

I bought a fignomenal fig in fall of 2023--from Amazon! It was pretty tiny but it made through the winter under a grow light. It put out new leaves in the spring of 2024, I sent a picture of the tiny fig. I set it outdoors for the summer and it grew very nicely, maybe a foot tall by the fall. I took it in for the winter, again under a grow light. there it basically grew in place, so to speak. Once I put it outside again this spring it really took off, it's now in a ten inch pot. I'm pretty sure it's basically reached the mature size, it's even got a fig starting on it!
Lirio100

Sounds like a great fig for people where figs may be hard to grow. And yours looks great! An ornamental edible.

Ah, Nature

Hi KT, glad to have you back! Here's a couple of recent wildlife photos from East Tennessee.
1. Turtle. There used to be a number of turtles at this bridge on my weekend walk; I hadn't seen them in a while, so I was glad when I saw this fellow. He was obviously resting after racing with--
2. Bunneh. It's bunneh season here in east Tennessee, and I've seen lots of them, from the tiniest babies to this fellow here, obviously prepping for the next Turtle-Bunneh match.
3. Bug. A small-eyed sphinx. apparently quite common in the US, this is the first one I've seen. When their wings are fully open you can see the small eyes on the underwing.
Thank you for the Saturday threads!

Great photos! Love them all.

Puttering

Hi KT,
I happy you're back and I hope you are feeling better. That's tough being ill and in the hospital and I was thinking of you.
Your Saturday am threads are really interesting and I save the page so I can read all of your links.
I thought you might like this for the garden thread?
I cut my lavender and I made a wreath. I've never made one before but I've been wanting to try for a long time. I'm not very artistic but I believe watching someone is easier for me to follow along and execute the project.
I watched a video tutorial on YouTube. I think the second time I make one it'll be a little easier. I kept having to trim the stems. I should have cut the stems shorter for my prep. I also should have pre cut twine.
She used 5 stems per bunch and attached them counter-clockwise to a wreath frame. She started attaching them in an X shape and then filled in bare spots with more bunches of lavender, tying them to the frame with twine and hiding the twine and stems with more bunches.
I needed more lavender, I was about three quarters of the way finished and I realized I needed more and the bees were out so I made do with what I had. As it was there were always two bees buzzing on the wreath as I was tying it but I didn't get stung.
The tutorial lady of course made her own frame out of a branch. I used a 12 inch wreath frame from Amazon, it was about 2 or 3 inches wide and I believe it would have been easer with a single branch frame, not as wide and not as many bunches needed to hide the frame/twine.
CaliGirl

A great project for a beautiful lavender wreath! Thanks for all the details.

Gardens of The Horde

Katy,
I hope you're doing well. It's a lovely time of year, so I hope you spend a bit of your down time outside.
Attached are various pics I've been accumulating. Use them any time, or not at all!
I think some things are best en masse... azaleas and bridalwreath spirea are two.
Dirr, the guy who wrote the tree ID book most used in schools calls the fringetree the "landscapers Bradford pear". Heh
MkY

Well-placed plants, don't you think? What's in there with the azaleas?

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

If you would like to send photos, stories, links, etc. for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden at g mail dot com

Remember to include the nic or name by which you wish to be known at AoSHQ, or let us know if you want to remain a lurker.

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1 twvqw3b

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM (UmB+t)

2
Srsly, I read the content! Couldn't believe I was sitting there at the top.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM (UmB+t)

3
Those are some nice horde gardens, by the way.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:38 PM (UmB+t)

4 That sphinx moth doesn't eat tomatoes, apparently. Trees and grape vines.

Love the nature photos. Do you prefer the turtle or the bunny?

Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 01:39 PM (xekrU)

5 I have one crop left. Corn. My area should be good enough for it to grow, but the backyard gets very hot in the summer. I'm giving it one last chance. If the corn doesn't produce either, or dies, then we'll rip out all the planting beds and landscape the yard into ornamentals only. Too old for this no return gardening.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 01:42 PM (0eaVi)

6 I have two Fignomenal trees, one from last year and one from this year. The first one spent the winter outside, covered up. I also have a Chicago Hardy fig that I bought last year.
They aren't doing as well as yours, but they are growing and enjoying the heat. I will transplant later in the fall and probably take them indoors for the winter.

I found a good video online about growing figs in containers. He suggested going with standard varieties, as they grow faster. And the Chicago Hardy is definitely bigger than the other two. Am hoping for figs next year.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 12, 2025 01:44 PM (AcTAo)

7 I think making a lavender wreath is wonderful!. I am not at all good with crafts , but I love lavender and so appreciate that Cali girl made one . Beautiful gardens and I like the picture of the turtle. I can see rabbits around here all the time but I have to take a hike by water to see turtles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:45 PM (2GCMq)

8 And the flowers up top are all gorgeous!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:45 PM (2GCMq)

9 The figs will be handy when the Christmas carolers shake you down for figgy pudding.

Posted by: They just keep singing til they get it at July 12, 2025 01:49 PM (TbWk/)

10 We have lovely little moths outside - white with black spots - and they are called "ermine moth". They look very pretty against the little clumps of tiny yellow flowers which is probably a weed - yellow trefoil.(?)

I'll now let the real gardeners discuss things. That wouldn't be me. Thanks for the pictures.😊

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:52 PM (2GCMq)

11 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
My mystery plants growing in the garden as of yesterday still have no flowers to start a squash type vegetable. My wife thought they were also cucumbers and leaves certainly look like it. But they are all volunteers

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:54 PM (+qU29)

12 I have a Chicago hardy fig in the backyard, it's done well enough that we usually end up giving away a lot of the figs. The fignomenal is new and sounded interesting, a fig tree in a container? It seems that there are some others that are supposed to do well in containers, and I've ordered a (tiny) Petite Negra and also one Violette de Bordeaux.

I have one space with a grow light my cats can't get to so this will be the extent of my experiment with the figs!

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 12, 2025 01:57 PM (ky7/T)

13 Flower favorite - the orange and yellow is a spectacular combination!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 01:57 PM (Hlfhp)

14 About time should get outside and see what's going on

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:57 PM (+qU29)

15 Well, my blackcurrant bush is loaded with hard little green currants. As they ripen, damned birds will steal them I expect.

An hour ago, I was using my hot glue gun to glue patches on a pair of "shop" blue jeans. Suddenly there was a loud zzort! with a bright flash of light from within the glue gun, and a puff of smoke, and whiff of ozone. I guess the cord shorted internally. Did not trigger the breaker. My excitement for the day. Maybe this evening I will take it apart and see if I can fix it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 02:04 PM (t4dnB)

16 Picked 3 green Anaheim peppers, never get the first ones to ripped anyway

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 02:05 PM (+qU29)

17 Great pics.
Not going to choose between the turtle & bunny.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at July 12, 2025 02:08 PM (KaHlS)

18 My cucumbers are producing enough for me and to give some to my brother. I just ate one, it was delicious. They are my favorite garden item. Cayennes are just getting underway and I hope they are good this year because I have a deal with my cousin to trade peppers for grass fed ground beef. The tomatoes are putting on and I wonder every year at this time why I grow slicers and not cherry or plum tomatoes.

Posted by: huerfano at July 12, 2025 02:09 PM (n2swS)

19 What gorgeous alstroemerias! Right now I'd opt for the pink ones, but I'd love the autumnal oranges and golds in the fall.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 02:14 PM (kpS4V)

20 From Boise area: I noticed I missed last week, so this week, I'm typing right after I come in from working. Lows mid 60's, highs over 100 F. We had a windstorm on Thurs. 3rd that pulled the plastic cover off our mini-greenhouse and sent it toward my neighbors - we recovered it.

I'm weeding raised beds, bean/pea rows in the corn patch - harvesting shelling peas, lettuce, a few strawberries, red raspberries, a few green beans, a bit of lavender, first pickling cucumbers, broccolini.

We put tomato cages on the paste ones. I dug my garlic out of their pots - none were as big as the original, but at least I got some, so a semi-successful crop. I had to pull out my zucchini - I planted a sprout out of the compost, but it appears to be a hybrid, because I got zucchini-blimps. Put in 2 fresh seeds, in hopes I can get some real zucchini before frost.

Puttering: We brewed our summer beer. Husband got a tow-behind sprayer for killing weeds. I've been edging the curve of landscape rocks around the shed, where a lot of grass has crept in.

Posted by: Pat* at July 12, 2025 02:15 PM (x+74H)

21 Figs are easy to grow, but tough to harvest. They don't ripen when picked, so just as the ripen on the branch some critter eats them all.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 12, 2025 02:17 PM (wBaIH)

22 Picked my first 'maters yesterday, two beautiful Striped Romas. I'll use them in a salad tonight.

My plants have loads of green tomatoes. Some have blossom end rot, which always seems to appear for a week or two. I put soil enricher in again; maybe that will give them enough calcium.

My butterfly and bee garden finally has lots of visitors! Even hummingbirds. Most popular hangouts are the butterfly bush and bee balm, naturally.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 02:19 PM (kpS4V)

23 Gorgeous photos throughout the post. The alstromeria are all pretty but the second one from the top is spectacular. It looks like it is glowing as if releasing stored up sunlight.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 02:20 PM (yTvNw)

24 Is that spirea in the bottom photo?

Posted by: Miflin at July 12, 2025 02:21 PM (aA6YN)

25 Now I'm looking for almost fully grown privacy hedges. I can't wait for them to grow. I need to block the view of the crappy covered porch my neighbor just had built.

My other issue is avoiding my sprinkler system when I do plant them.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 02:22 PM (VofaG)

26 I'm anxious to try my Mad Hatter, Fatalii, Yellow T-Rex, and Kraken Scorpion peppers when they ripen. I also have mellower peppers like Habanada, Banana, Jalapeño, and long sweet peppers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 02:23 PM (kpS4V)

27 Saying goodbye to the last black raspberries of the year. Always amazing that they grow well in spite of my total incompetence with plants!

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 12, 2025 02:30 PM (/rQlD)

28 I planted a white alstroemeria this year... I made myself pick white because I tend to plant pink everything... It's doing well...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 12, 2025 02:32 PM (VE6XX)

29 So many beautiful, colorful plants. Neal in Israel always has a nice collection. And Cali Girls lavender wreath is quite a project. I'm wondering if it will last a long time. So attractive.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at July 12, 2025 02:35 PM (bj34f)

30 The weather has been nasty lately, too hot, too humid to do much outside and lots of brief but intense thunderstorms. But the plants love it. The rose of Sharon are at their peak and are just lovely. Same with the crepe myrtles. Splashes of rich color that are a pleasure to watch. You can tell which households have been long established by the size of the shrubs.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 02:36 PM (yTvNw)

31 We haven't had much trouble with wildlife going after the figs. Very true they can't stay on the tree and they don't keep well once picked. That's why in good years we end up giving some away.

Posted by: Lirio100 at July 12, 2025 02:40 PM (ky7/T)

32 "Plant hydrangeas," they said. "They're beautiful and low maintenance they said." OK, they aren't exactly low-maintenance, they're as thirsty as a Hollywood nymphomaniac. But they never mentioned hydrangeas draw houseflies like diarrhea on a cattle feedlot.

Any suggestions on handling the houseflies in my hydrangeas?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 12, 2025 02:40 PM (DIweC)

33 I wonder how long the scent lasts on the lavender wreath.

Posted by: JTB at July 12, 2025 02:46 PM (yTvNw)

34 Any suggestions on handling the houseflies in my hydrangeas?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 12, 2025 02:40 PM (DIweC)

Stop planting them in the house?

Posted by: Then they're just flies at July 12, 2025 02:48 PM (TbWk/)

35 Love AoSHQ but this and the Pet thread are my favorites.

I have only basics, i.e., tomatoes, peppers, eggplant, large and small cucumbers, "salad" marigolds, in the garden & several of those are growing in containers. There are mostly perennials, such as azaleas, hydrangea, hostas, coral bells, sedums, clematis - and a few that may be colorful, giant weeds, in the yard. Maintaining even that little patch of yard & land gets difficult at times.

This year, the vegetables & sedum look great in the heat and rain, the others are not so great as they're not shielded at all from summer sun. Had to remove all of the large trees, both front and back, on this tiny lot so I need to get up awnings or latticework barriers "if we stay." (Definitely for another time & place.)

I can't imagine making a lovely wreath of lavender! You are blessed. The patience, fine hand work and 'eye' for design necessary for such a project are well beyond my capabilities.

Thanks for all of the wonderful, uplifting pictures! They make the weekend so much brighter.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 02:49 PM (NFX2v)

36 In my new community we have approximately 10 lakes and ponds that can see. Probably another 10 in our preserve area. In that last month I've stopped my truck 5 times to get out and help Mr turtle return to one of those lakes or ponds.

Tip when picking up turtles is to fully extend your arms away from you because they will expel any water /pee they have as soon as you pick them up.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 02:57 PM (VofaG)

37 Praying Mantis have housed in the hydrangeas for awhile and now they're expanding to clementis and mint. They seem to keep their territories healthier than others adjacent - including no flies, moths, etc. - but I'm terrified of them and that affects plant maintenance.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 03:02 PM (NFX2v)

38 Afternoon all.
I have got to get my act together and send in the pictures of the terrace water garden at my condo. It is pretty unique.
I have not been able to do my trail walks so trying to focus in on what is around me although watching a Crow devour a bird on the terrace was not what I had in mind. Hrothgar's comment was 'nature's way of recycling'. 😉

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 03:06 PM (t/2Uw)

39 Neal, the flowers are gorgeous. Don't know whee exactly you are in Israel but I am glad you havfe this beauty around you.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 03:07 PM (t/2Uw)

40 Lunch break. Nomming on some "Savory Samosa Chipz" chili Lime flavored. They are yummy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 03:11 PM (h5SgU)

41 Praying Mantids are predators that eat other, more pesty bugs. They do look fierce but they are like Marines, you want to have them on your side.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 12, 2025 03:17 PM (CHHv1)

42 When I was a fourth grade science teacher, I would have my students dissect alstromeria so they could examine all the parts of the flower. Wonderful flowers for a simple project like that. The colors are always gorgeous and the parts are easily identifiable.

Thanks for the beautiful garden thread KT! Hope you are feeling well.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at July 12, 2025 03:17 PM (dyL4B)

43 Been putting a lot of effort into my grape vines the last few weekends. I was fortunate to get some cuttings for seedless grapes (can only get seedless if you use cuttings) a few years ago.

The vines look pretty healthy. Lots of rain around here this year. About the first week of September I'll harvest...and at my house, they go right into the freezer. Nature's popsicle (or icy snack bites actually). Nothing better than some frozen grapes on a hot afternoon, and their natural sugar make-up keeps them from freezing solid. It's a nice alternative to the sugar water "freeze pops" that wind up your kids on sugar and have questionable flavor.

Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 03:20 PM (dIske)

44 PET NOOD IS UP

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM (+qU29)

45 Have a fig from a cutting at mom's in the '90s. It made it into a tree in the country and now a cutting is struggling 6 years here. I should did it up and pot it to keep it alive for the next move.
When it rains.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 03:26 PM (zH8im)

46 Beautiful photos from everyone, as always. I'm especially envious of that lavender wreath!

Lavender doesn't seem to be too happy here. I have one that's been with me since 2021. I tried to take some cuttings 2 years ago but they didn't make it. Perhaps I'm not taking them early enough (it gets hot here).

When I lived in Sweden I befriended a nice lady, Solveig, who had a nursery and was at one point the biggest provider of lavender in Sweden. I took thousands of cuttings for her and she paid me in plants. A very nice arrangement!

I'll try again next spring, as soon as tender shoots get long enough. Eventually I plan to place them out in the vegetable garden, to harvest flowers. Perhaps near the squash plants (which always seem to need pollinators drawn to them).

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 12, 2025 04:38 PM (w6EFb)

47 From Popular Mechanice, a new cat color from Finland, "Salty Liquorice".

It's more than just a name. The Scandis LOVE salted licorice. In my NATO assignments, everyone takes turns bringing snacks from their coutry to share. A Danish officer I worked with in Kosovo loved giving Americans salted licorice and watching them retch. I developed a tolerance for it out of pride, so he bought a big bag of them for me: https://tinyurl.com/3dpuwt6z

The Finns drop a few into a bottle of vodka and let the flavor soak in before drinking it straight.

Posted by: Military Moron at July 12, 2025 04:45 PM (JCZqz)

48 21 Figs are easy to grow, but tough to harvest. They don't ripen when picked, so just as the ripen on the branch some critter eats them all.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov

Not if you have a .22 rifle with a scope and a suppressor.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 12, 2025 04:46 PM (XI1F5)

49 I have a couple of Korean black grapes (Podo) my wife got from a good friend of hers, one is in a pot and is trying to have grapes this year for the first time, and the other one is planted in the arbor with the other grapes, and it is without grapes still. Both were started from cuttings, and there were two successes out of six cuttings.

I have a volunteer grape that sprouted from the compost I dug in the garden about five years ago, it has grapes again this year, but I think it is just a concord, nothing exciting.
I have what I suspect are interlaken seedless grapes and I dry those for raisins

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 05:44 PM (D7oie)

Can the Democrats of New York help out California??

Recently, a young friend on social media posted a short clip suggesting that the harsh rhetoric of many prominent Democrats toward Zorhan Mamdani, candidate for mayor of NYC, demonstrated why they were ineffective at "fighting fascism".

On Thursday, Ace picked up the following squabble: Zohran Mamdani's communist supporters say they're going to primary leftwing racist Hakeem Jeffries next. And then:

Jeffries' team fired back with their new, dumb insult.

Leader Hakeem Jeffries is focused on taking back the House from the MAGA extremists who just ripped health care away from millions of Americans," Jeffries senior adviser André Richardson told CNN.
"However, if Team Gentrification wants a primary fight, our response will be forceful and unrelenting. We will teach them and all of their incumbents a painful lesson on June 23, 2026," he warned.

"Team gentrification". Heh. There's some harsh rhetoric for you.

But "prominent Democrats" in NYC are not the only ones with communication problems lately.

On Thursday, J.J. Sefton provided some excellent commentary on untoward behavior by Democrats recently. J.J. featured a piece by Victor Davis Hanson which included a wide variety of such behavior, The Roots of Leftist Rage. VDH concludes:

Add it all up, and the impotent left in all its orthodox and street manifestations has become unhinged.
And why not when it rightly fears that not just its power, but the very sources of its power, are in mortal danger?

There are a couple of nutty things from California that you may have missed this week with Gavin on the podcast trail. He may not have covered all the issues, either. I have been wondering in particular if the state and local officials who have decided to require the building of low-income housing in Pacific Palisades might not want to take some tips from Zorhan Mamdani, whose ideas for "community housing"seem to be among the most popular parts of his campaign.

Together, California and NYC could show us how his ideas would work! Maybe they need a little "Team Gentrification". Instead of this:

Back in February, I wrote about a new Los Angeles ordinance that had come into effect, requiring low-income housing to be erected, replacing apartment buildings that were lost.
What that meant to fire victims who'd lost their rental homes was they might never have a home to return to if the landlord rebuilt their building and they now earned too much to make the qualifications for the low-income threshold.
In effect, LA County would be making them homeless.

Also read the whole piece by Beege Welborn, which includes travails of fire victims in several communities: Y'All Got Took: There Was Never Going to Be Any 'Rebuilt' Pacific Palisades

You knew when comedian turned prophet Adam Corolla went on an epic rant from a hotel room desk, a fire refugee himself waiting on word whether he had a home or not, telling you then and there if your home was gone, it was gone for good.
Because Mayor Karen Bass, Governor Gavin Newsom, and the soul-crushing machinery of the State of California had the will and the power to ensure you would never rebuild, one way or the other.

There are a couple of videos embedded in this piece, too.

Could Zorhan Mamdani make the Democrats more popular here with his new ideas?

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Think about it

Codevilla emphasized the importance of bureaucracy in fascism. I kinda think that the classic communists quickly switch over to something like Mussolini's fascist economic ideas pretty quickly if they want to survive. In the West, we may see something similar . . .

I'm ever more convinced that the reality of Soviet economic life has been mischaracterized, including by the regime itself, as "communism/socialism" – to make it seem vaguely intelligent, experimental, and foreign – when it was more like a county entirely managed by a administrative state in partnership with industry, something not entirely unknown in the US.
Have a look at the high-speed rail development in California. Thirty years of planning and work, $38B spent, and only 119 miles more-or-less completed (a 2.5 hour drive) but already falling apart before a single ticket has been purchased. It's Soviet-like in every way because that is what happens in any society – forget socialism – that is burdened by a parasitic ruling class under any ideological slogan.

"A parasitic ruling class" is right. The people who designed this fiasco ignored the hopes and dreams of various members of their own ruling class (environmental in particular). They counted on forcing through a complex project by finishing the easy part first - - but the easy part was NOT easy.

Can Zorhan Mamdami help California out here? He's into mass transit. He smiles a lot and is popular. A political show business type who wants to bring legal prostitution back to the theater district.

We have seen some theatrics by congressional democrats recently, too.

Is it too much?

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, July 5, Independence Day Weekend (with a little socialism)

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Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 11:16 AM (vm8sq)

2 Hey, Mr. Jeffries, no one can take “health care” from me. Ever. I have no health for which to care.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 11:17 AM (vm8sq)

3 Morning, KT!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 12, 2025 11:20 AM (2UnvF)

4 Hi, Duke!

Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 11:23 AM (xekrU)

5 Great thread, so good that I actually broke from AoS convention and actually read every word. Thanks for writing it K.T.

Posted by: .87c at July 12, 2025 11:23 AM (MbAOz)

6 Good to see you, KT! Particularly appreciate the Handy Guide.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 12, 2025 11:27 AM (R3yzU)

7 I thought gentrification meant taking some poverty-ravaged rathole and dressing it up to make it suitable for the young white urban elite, running out the ho's and drug dealers in the process.

So "Hakeem" thinks this is a bad thing?

(The sad irony is that Mamdani will do exactly the opposite to New York, of course, so "Hakeem" has his bald head up his ass.)

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 11:28 AM (hY4dx)

8 But....CA 's weather is wonderful and I can get Chinese food at 3am in NYC. We'd vote for someone different than the usual totalitarian assholes, but voting is hard and takes up so much of our time.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)

9 5 Great thread, so good that I actually broke from AoS convention and actually read every word. Thanks for writing it K.T.
Posted by: .87c at July 12, 2025 11:23 AM (MbAOz)

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Posted by: The AoSHQ Comment Propriety Review Referee at July 12, 2025 11:32 AM (hY4dx)

10 Yeah, it's kinda crowded up in here.

Posted by: Hakeem's ass at July 12, 2025 11:33 AM (XQo4F)

11 @#7: Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 11:28 AM (hY4dx)
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So, gentrification is the lefty "dog whistle" phrase for white people? Yes, they're bat sh!t crazy, but very, very dangerous. Thanks for the post K.T.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 12, 2025 11:33 AM (NGwH/)

12 Good morning KT

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 11:36 AM (+qU29)

13 Discovery and Preliminary Characterization of a Third Interstellar Object: 3I/ATLAS
arxiv.org/pdf/2507.02757

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 11:37 AM (TwZXH)

14
How is Newsom gonna explain away the train to nowhere? Republicans ought to be exposing and hammering away at that now. It's been languishing under several democrat presidencies, so he can't blame Republicans at any level -- state or federal.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 11:38 AM (UmB+t)

15 Yep. All of a sudden Brad and Meghan are out on the sidewalk with the stroller and the labra doodle and the hoods on the corner are all like Damn! We caint sell nuthin' to dem!

Posted by: Gentrification at July 12, 2025 11:42 AM (XQo4F)

16 Arrest the LA mayor for interfering in a federal investigation/obstruction of justice. Throw her in jail for a few days.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 12, 2025 11:43 AM (etTpa)

17 "How is Newsom gonna explain away the train to nowhere?"

It's a write off, Jerry.
They just write it off.

Posted by: Kramer at July 12, 2025 11:45 AM (XQo4F)

18 JP Morgan CEO: I Have a Lot of Friends Who Are Democrats, And They're Idiots

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Also evil.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 11:45 AM (L/fGl)

19 Send ICE to every construction site in LA.
Arrest . Deport. Repeat.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at July 12, 2025 11:50 AM (etTpa)

20 How is Newsom gonna explain away the train to nowhere?

He will blame Trump anyway. Because that's what they do.
Besides, the Dems have been pocketing that money anyway.
Yes they are crooks, D.C. Dems can't have all the fun.

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 11:50 AM (ilX37)

21 “Girls” Star Lena Dunham Says Conservative Misogyny Led to MAGA Movement

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Fat pig says what?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 11:52 AM (L/fGl)

22 "high-speed rail development in California. Thirty years of planning and work, $38B spent, and only 119 miles more-or-less completed (a 2.5 hour drive) but already falling apart before a single ticket has been purchased."

It was all stolen. Nobody cared about meeting any of the original objectives of the project. It was just a boondoggle to spread OPM around to the connected. Not to mention just a plain stupid idea to begin with. A lot of people get really nostalgically stupid over passenger choo-choos.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 11:53 AM (TwZXH)

23 John Cusack Says Israeli, American Flags Symbolize "Genocide" to Many People

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Uh oh. I've got a crossed Israel /American flag pin on my cap. Two time loser.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (L/fGl)

24 Thanks for the essay, K.T.

Who is Newsom supposed to resemble in the picture-someone particular or just an extremely wealthy out of touch Democrat wearing clothes that looks like they're from the Victorian age?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (2GCMq)

25 > "high-speed rail development in California. Thirty years of planning and work, $38B spent, and only 119 miles more-or-less completed (a 2.5 hour drive) but already falling apart before a single ticket has been purchased."
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Sort of like the billions allocated for EV charging stations by the *biden junta that (IIRC) one of which was actually built.

DOGE should have looked into where all that dough went.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (Q4IgG)

26 Trump should have USDA declare cannabis (other than cordage hemp) to be a noxious weed, and require that all State agriculture agencies to eradicate any stands of it found on public or private land, or lose all Fed agriculture benefits.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (f+HOd)

27 @ 22: Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 11:53 AM (TwZXH)
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38 Billion? That's chump change for the solar and wind energy grifters.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 12, 2025 11:57 AM (NGwH/)

28 Thanks for the "handy guide" as well. That was sadly true.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 11:58 AM (2GCMq)

29 DNC Chair: Dems Win by Welcoming Leftists Who Refuse to Condemn “Globalize the Intifada”

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So that's the problem, not enough Nazism.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 11:59 AM (L/fGl)

30 Thanks KT

I was wondering what is going on with Pacific Palisades. My sympathy for those that lost their homes to the fires and now have the near impossible rules and regs to overcome in order to rebuild.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 12:00 PM (PcTds)

31 Thx K.T. Fighting against other leftist factions is a hallmark of a leftist revolution. The most vicious and hardcore come out on top

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 12:01 PM (JrdHf)

32 Hi KT
Glad you're back.
Ethel 's dress is....I don't have words.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 12:01 PM (t/2Uw)

33 6 Trump should have USDA declare cannabis (other than cordage hemp) to be a noxious weed, and require that all State agriculture agencies to eradicate any stands of it found on public or private land, or lose all Fed agriculture benefits.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (f+HOd)

Nah. Let states like CA, CO, etc. stone themselves to death.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 12:01 PM (g8Ew8)

34 >>Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (f+HOd)

The cultivation and/or sale of marijuana is prohibited by Federal law.

Posted by: lurk at July 12, 2025 12:02 PM (7IOVT)

35 California is a big part of the reason the country is 32 Trillion Dollars in debt.

It ain't Iowa blowing all that dough!

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 12:02 PM (ilX37)

36 He's talking about you!

Canadian Police Official: “Traditional Values” May Be Sign a Person Is Becoming “Extremist”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 12:03 PM (L/fGl)

37 I was talking to a guy who lives way out in the sticks about Walmart+ free delivery, and how it might work well for him. He started in right away about how we never should have shut down the old interurban passenger train system of a century ago.

In his nostalgic haze, he thinks it would be easier and more efficient for him to travel to a train station (by foot or cab,) board a train, ride choochoo, deboard and travel to a grocery store (bfoc,) travel back to the train station carrying groceries (bfoc,) ride choochoo, deboard and travel home carrying groceries (bfoc.)

He thinks that would be better than just having his groceries delivered at negligible cost, because passenger trains are so cool. Such is the nostalgic lure of obsolete tech to train buffs.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:04 PM (TwZXH)

38 TexMex lunch, then tackle some grass, not the smoking kind

Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 12:04 PM (UYYJi)

39 We currently have tall hills of that "boondoggle" stacked up not far from us -- artificial hills made during the construction of detours.

Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 12:05 PM (xekrU)

40 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 12:01 PM (t/2Uw)

The dress certainly extenuates her top half. I'm interested to see a picture of her before she got older and heavier.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 12:05 PM (2GCMq)

41 Two refineries closing in CA, they're going to need all the choo-choos they can find. Boutique, exclusive gasoline blends don't grow on trees, you know.

Posted by: Casey Jones at July 12, 2025 12:05 PM (G5+As)

42 I want Mamdani to win. NYC needs to get it good and hard. Then harder.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 12:05 PM (ImXfC)

43 The cultivation and/or sale of marijuana is prohibited by Federal law.
Posted by: lurk at July 12, 2025 12:02 PM (7IOVT)

Yeah, but they are not enforcing it, right?

My plan would make it financially necessary for State Ag departments to eradicate pot farms, or else they would lose mucho Fed $$$. Ju Jitsu.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 12:08 PM (f+HOd)

44 I don't want Osama Bin Lenin to win and I hope California eventually picks a Republican Governor or less of a Democrat left winger, if possible.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 12:09 PM (2GCMq)

45 People living here in Shithole IL are always lobbying to restore the passenger train service to Chicago, 1.5 hours away by car, via an excellent tollway. If they ever get it, here's what will happen: at first a bunch of them will ride it once or twice just for the novelty, realize how inconvenient it really is, and ridership will drop from there.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:11 PM (TwZXH)

46 "I want Mamdani to win. NYC needs to get it good and hard. Then harder."

I'm probably a bit more selfish. The only way that can affect me is clogging up my town with more seemingly unrepentant refugees which I really could live without.

How likely is Trump to support coughing up a taxpayer funded bailout of his hometown?

Posted by: pawn at July 12, 2025 12:11 PM (QB+5g)

47 Robot Can Autonomously Perform Gallbladder Surgical Procedure

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Except on Thursdays. It golfs on Thursdays.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 12, 2025 12:11 PM (L/fGl)

48 New York City will only get what they deserve. It's on them.

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 12:12 PM (ilX37)

49 Great post, KT. Thanks for sharing the link to Hot Air - I rarely get over there, but it was quite interesting. Loved Adam Carolla's rant, which is obviously turning out to be rather prophetic.

Posted by: Retired, thank God! at July 12, 2025 12:16 PM (9BIt9)

50 41 A gas station in San Luis AZ or Yuma might be a pretty good investment. You might have to put in additional tanks.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 12, 2025 12:18 PM (gm9Sb)

51 White people move in - gentrification, and racist.

White people move out - white flight, and racist.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at July 12, 2025 12:18 PM (hkTyT)

52 The dress certainly extenuates her top half. I'm interested to see a picture of her before she got older and heavier.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Who’s socking Fen?

Posted by: Kratwurst at July 12, 2025 12:20 PM (D2i5O)

53 My take on the plight of the Pacific Palisades folks who want to rebuild there: pick someplace else to live that isn't so flammable. Most of them are well off enough to move anywhere they want.

They really should have taken the hint when insurers refused to cover them.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:20 PM (TwZXH)

54 Nah. Let states like CA, CO, etc. stone themselves to death.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 12:01 PM (g8Ew

Every state like that is going to turn into Colombia or Mexico, and the crime and corruption will expand to your state, no matter how sanctimonious you and your neighbors are about drug use.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 12:20 PM (D7oie)

55 New York City will only get what they deserve. It's on them.

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 12:12 PM (ilX37)

Do you also agree that we all deserved Biden and Harris in 2020?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:22 PM (QZThv)

56 Every state like that is going to turn into Colombia or Mexico, and the crime and corruption will expand to your state, no matter how sanctimonious you and your neighbors are about drug use.

Ask Israel how having a failed shithole on your border works out.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:23 PM (QZThv)

57 55 If you live there, I'm curious to hear about how Mamdani(?) got elected. Was it on the up and up?

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:24 PM (TwZXH)

58 My take on the plight of the Pacific Palisades folks who want to rebuild there: pick someplace else to live that isn't so flammable. Most of them are well off enough to move anywhere they want.

They really should have taken the hint when insurers refused to cover them.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:20 PM

They really don't have a choice. They certainly can't sell their property and they are on the hook for ridiculous property taxes whether they rebuild or not.

Unless they abandon their property and move out of state they are screwed with their only real option to rebuild if they can get permits which is no sure thing now that newsome et. al. are changing the rules.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 12, 2025 12:25 PM (e5NfL)

59 My take on the plight of the Pacific Palisades folks who want to rebuild there: pick someplace else to live that isn't so flammable. Most of them are well off enough to move anywhere they want.

I feel for those among them, like James Woods, who assuredly didn't vote for this, but as for the rest of them, you're getting exactly what you voted for. Enjoy.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 12:27 PM (Riz8t)

60 They really should have taken the hint when insurers refused to cover them.
Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:20 PM (TwZXH)

Funny man. Did you know the state makes any clearance of brush in Ca into a multi-year paperwork struggle? Including the highly flammable chapparal on your back fence?

If your state fined your house insurance company so high they left the state, sent a crew over to your houses and burned it down with gasoline and road flares, then fined you for ecological damage caused by your car burning to the rims and frame, and then told you that they were going to change the land use to multi-unit housing only; what is your response to me telling you that you should have gotten out the house you are raising your kids in when the insurance company told you to get bent?

Are you happy? Are you content? Are you accepting that the property that you paid the mortgage and taxes on for 20 years and sacrificed economically for was never yours if the state decided it was theirs?
No? How selfish.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 12:28 PM (D7oie)

61 If you live there, I'm curious to hear about how Mamdani(?) got elected. Was it on the up and up?

I don't live there, but my position is simply that blue city/blue state election results are always fake and gay. Trump gets a lot of credit for simply doing things the experts said couldn't be done, but Ron DeSantis got the ball rolling by forcibly cleaning up Miami's voter rolls. All of the sudden a major city was not voting for Democrats, when experts claimed major cities would always be overwhelmingly Dem.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:28 PM (QZThv)

62 Posted by: Kratwurst at July 12, 2025 12:20 PM (D2i5O)

Nobody is socking me and it's a quite accurate comment. Also, the picture I was speaking of I'd like to see was not of Merman in a vintage boob- - -a - pallooza shot ( she may have some décolletage , but probably not of the breasts almost falling but of her blouse like an earlier version of Kim Kardashian) but Of her face when she was young. I found some:

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 12:28 PM (2GCMq)

63 My take on the plight of the Pacific Palisades folks who want to rebuild there: pick someplace else to live that isn't so flammable. Most of them are well off enough to move anywhere they want.

Palisades isn't that flammable when you do ordinary forest management. Cali stopped doing that decades ago because the environmental lobby (emphasis on "mental") wanted to preserve the feelings of fish.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:30 PM (QZThv)

64 Palisades isn't that flammable when you do ordinary forest management. Cali stopped doing that decades ago because the environmental lobby (emphasis on "mental") wanted to preserve the feelings of fish.

For the last damn time, I did NOT fart.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 12, 2025 12:31 PM (Riz8t)

65 60 You cite me several reasons why it's a horrible place to live, then you want me to sympathize with the people who insist on living in such a horrible place.

Hey, I regret the housing choice I made too! Unlike most of them, I haven't the means to move.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:31 PM (TwZXH)

66 my neighbor's mother was Ethel Merman's corsetière at
Bonwit Teller in Philadelphia.

Posted by: kallisto at July 12, 2025 12:33 PM (dCxaZ)

67
gas station in San Luis AZ or Yuma might be a pretty good investment. You might have to put in additional tanks.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

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Arco station in Yuma, just a couple of miles inside the state line on I-8. I always hit it coming and going when I went to visit my Uncle Jim.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 12:33 PM (UmB+t)

68 Getting through the Hot Air link, and wonder in the Lahaina are doing any better in rebuilding

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 12:34 PM (+qU29)

69 Palisades isn't that flammable when you do ordinary forest management. Cali stopped doing that decades ago because the environmental lobby (emphasis on "mental") wanted to preserve the feelings of fish.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:30 PM (QZThv)

From what I understand, the additional flow into the Sacramento delta is not for the fish, but to dilute the treated sewage coming from Sacramento to a level that is not violating the state and federal water regulations. Otherwise they state would be either paying penalties, building sewage facilities to remove the additional P and N from the outflow, or have to figure out how to give themselves regulatory exemptions.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 12:34 PM (D7oie)

70 Sooner, rather than later, someone in the democrat hopeful stable of "leaders" is going to role the dice and try to take control of the party. Currently, the extreme radicals are pretending to lead without the tools, support or unified message. The "Trojan Horse" democrats (the ones who say one thing and do another) are all keeping their heads down. Because, they know the minute one of them steps into the ring, the current administration is going to do a laser focus on their history and past behavior. At the current administration is in a position to do so efficiently and with devastating results. None of the potential democrat leadership is clean. They all have their skeletons.

So, the wait, and the void is filled with true radicals ruining their brand even more. So, the democrats have to take a risk. And, someone will have to step forward (role the dice) and hope for the best. Otherwise, the party decays even further into something unrecognizable, and disturbing.

It's a fun game to watch.

Posted by: Orson at July 12, 2025 12:35 PM (dIske)

71 Posted by: kallisto at July 12, 2025 12:33 PM (dCxaZ

That's interesting. I only really know of her as having a strong voice but she certainly was in a lot of musicals and given the fact that she sang "God bless America" I'd like to think that she meant it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 12:35 PM (2GCMq)

72 Primaries are notoriously low in voting, make sure your backers are out and your in

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 12:36 PM (+qU29)

73 hope California eventually picks a Republican Governor

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 12, 2025 12:36 PM (aeOxc)

74 Getting through the Hot Air link, and wonder in the Lahaina are doing any better in rebuilding

They aren't. The native Hawaiian lobby thinks this is their big chance to get their land-acknowledged land back from the haoles, and they own all the permitting and zoning boards. The Dem governor of Hawaii tried to intervene to expedite permits and was sued by the ACLU for committing a "fascist genocide". A Hawaiian judge ruled for the ACLU, of course.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:36 PM (QZThv)

75 You cite me several reasons why it's a horrible place to live, then you want me to sympathize with the people who insist on living in such a horrible place.

Hey, I regret the housing choice I made too! Unlike most of them, I haven't the means to move.
Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:31 PM (TwZXH)

Your sympathy and understanding overwhelms everyone.

I know, those stupid North Koreans, they should vote harder, too.
They should either move somewhere else, or be allowed to starve to death in the next famine.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 12:36 PM (D7oie)

76 My take on the plight of the Pacific Palisades folks who want to rebuild there: pick someplace else to live that isn't so flammable. Most of them are well off enough to move anywhere they want.

They really should have taken the hint when insurers refused to cover them.
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I think people should be able to do as they like with land that they own. If they choose the risk, so be it. Having the government make decisions for private landowners is imo wrong in many ways; not the least of which is creating a class of people who let the gvt do their thinking.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 12:36 PM (PcTds)

77 Do you also agree that we all deserved Biden and Harris in 2020?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:22 PM (QZThv)

2 views: 1st, yes we did, because we allowed the corruption to grow until that was the natural end result. It’s a true miracle we have started to come back.
2nd view: as Clint Eastwood said in Unforgiven, Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 12:37 PM (Hlfhp)

78 None of the potential democrat leadership is clean. They all have their skeletons.

So, the wait, and the void is filled with true radicals ruining their brand even more. So, the democrats have to take a risk. And, someone will have to step forward (role the dice) and hope for the best. Otherwise, the party decays even further into something unrecognizable, and disturbing.

In some ways, this is the story of Trump. The rest of the cowardly GOP marched in lockstep and was afraid to say anything about illegal immigration, for fear of being called racist. Trump, the radical in this case, stepped forward. You'd think people would learn from his example.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 12:39 PM (Riz8t)

79 > Y'All Got Took: There Was Never Going to Be Any 'Rebuilt' Pacific Palisades
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I think a lot of people, many here, knew this as soon as the homes were torched. People who were renting houses that burned down have nowhere to go back to since the homeowner's probably won't be permitted to rebuild.

And the area seems... less than ideal for "low income" housing... but whatever. It's California. The state was always going to screw it's citizens.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 12:39 PM (Q4IgG)

80 Sidebar -

Alan Dershowitz says there is an "Epstein Client List," but that it contains many people falsely accused by Virginia Guiffre, and also a lot of negative information about Guiffre herself.

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So what the hell was Virginia's function again?

But for pics of her with rich and famous you'd think she was some rando who came out of the woodwork to accuse random rich and famous of bad things.

She's like Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver, a lone child prostitute whose few tricks a day supports a gaggle of pimps and henchmen all on the few nameless John's who wander through. But her pimp is one of NYFC's wealthiest and best connected with many very expensive estates, not some gritty shithole brownstone.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 12:39 PM (/lPRQ)

81 Alan Dershowitz says there is an "Epstein Client List," but that it contains many people falsely accused by Virginia Guiffre, and also a lot of negative information about Guiffre herself.

Dersh also claims that he only went to Epstein's island multiple times because they give great massages there, and definitely no happy endings.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:40 PM (QZThv)

82 I think people should be able to do as they like with land that they own. If they choose the risk, so be it. Having the government make decisions for private landowners is imo wrong in many ways; not the least of which is creating a class of people who let the gvt do their thinking.

This only works if people have to accept the consequences of their decisions and the government keeps its snout out of things. Government (i.e. taxpayer) subsidized insurance allows them to avoid those consequences.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 12:41 PM (Riz8t)

83 Stalin could fix many of the DemCong problems by merely eliminating 3/4th of the DemCong leadership.

Ta-Da -- 3/4ths of problems eliminated.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 12:41 PM (/lPRQ)

84 "If they choose the risk, so be it"

Precisely. It's an asset. If it devalues, or they chose poorly in the first place, all they can do is try to sell it to the greater fool.

No different from buying a block of stock. Nobody feels sorry for a guy who takes a flyer on Global Crossing and loses.

Parts of CA are clearly a fire-adapted ecosystem. Unless you radically change the vegetation cover, it burns. We had big parts of Illinois like that, but we turned it all into corn fields, so not a prob any more.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:42 PM (TwZXH)

85 That's interesting. I only really know of her as having a strong voice but she certainly was in a lot of musicals and given the fact that she sang "God bless America" I'd like to think that she meant it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 12:35 PM (2GCMq)

yes, entertainment business was patriotic back then

Posted by: kallisto at July 12, 2025 12:45 PM (dCxaZ)

86 It may be too late, but the Palisades & Altadena home owners should put together ownership corporations that sues the city/co/state and uses the awards to fight off the investment cos that are going to piecemeal the properties. It could be the one to file all of the injunctions to stave off the worst aspects that are inevitable at this point.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 12, 2025 12:46 PM (mlg/3)

87 GP, I can tell you are just arguing to piss people off, but I do hope someone at least pisses on you when you catch on fire, instead of saying things like, "well, you know, he shouldn't have been in his front yard when the gangbangers decided to chase him down the street with a bottle of lighter fluid and a matches"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 12:48 PM (D7oie)

88 Hakeem isn't helping himself when he lies to his base and other Dems/lefties. Millions of Americans did not lose healthcare. Millions of illegals did.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 12, 2025 12:48 PM (W/lyH)

89 This only works if people have to accept the consequences of their decisions and the government keeps its snout out of things. Government (i.e. taxpayer) subsidized insurance allows them to avoid those consequences.
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Absolutely, so get the gvt out! I don't like the argument "we can't do this because of that". Yes there is an interconnectedness to the problems, and if we are going to fight for a rollback of gvt overreach we have to start somewhere.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 12:49 PM (PcTds)

90 Have a look at the high-speed rail development in California. Thirty years of planning and work, $38B spent, and only 119 miles more-or-less completed (a 2.5 hour drive) but already falling apart before a single ticket has been purchased. It's Soviet-like in every way because that is what happens in any society – forget socialism – that is burdened by a parasitic ruling class under any ideological slogan.

Uh, more or less completed? Not a SINGLE FUCKING PIECE OF TRACK has been laid... not one... anywhere.

Lots of bridges to nowhere... lots of farms cut in half... but... more or less completed?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 12:50 PM (mP0Kj)

91 87 No Kindltot, I want to be friends with all you guys, and I am saying what I really think. I'm sorry if you think I'm a bad person, or have insufficient sympathy, and I hope you won't hold it against me too much.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:51 PM (TwZXH)

92 @57 I love 90m north of NYC. Mamdani's primary win was probably straight, though with ranked choice there probably was some shenanigans. Cuomo ran a shitty campaign and had obvious problems. The other candidates were useless lifers.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 12:51 PM (JrdHf)

93
Alan Dershowitz says there is an "Epstein Client List," but that it contains many people falsely accused by Virginia Guiffre, and also a lot of negative information about Guiffre herself.

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If you're talking about the same video snippet that I saw, he never talks about "clients," just "names," and he's mostly concerned about people who have been falsely accused. Those are the files he says should be released so that -- I don't fully understand, but something like so that those people can clear themselves like he did. When he says "victims," he seems to be talking about those people.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 12:51 PM (UmB+t)

94 86 It may be too late, but the Palisades & Altadena home owners should put together ownership corporations that sues the city/co/state and uses the awards to fight off the investment cos that are going to piecemeal the properties. It could be the one to file all of the injunctions to stave off the worst aspects that are inevitable at this point.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 12, 2025 12:46 PM (mlg/3)

of the 800 building permits that have gotten through the first hurdles (there are about 8 steps)... only about 100 have actually been approved... this is 6 months after the fires.

Of those 100... I'd wager they are all either high density housing, or the owners have political connections.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 12:52 PM (mP0Kj)

95 >>> Thirty years of planning and work, $38B spent, and only 119 miles more-or-less completed (a 2.5 hour drive)

This is how bad it is - even critics of the rail are low-balling it -
- Absent any other details...
- Speed limit is 70 mph on the expressway
- Gentlemen +10 mph before you ticketed
- 80 mph for short trip (no piss breaks at the wonder that is Bukee's)
- 120 miles is closer to 1.5 hours than 2.5 hours.

Agin, when even the critics of rail expound on how wonderful rail is, are they really 'critics'.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 12:53 PM (/lPRQ)

96 26 >>Trump should have USDA declare cannabis (other than cordage hemp) to be a noxious weed, and require that all State agriculture agencies to eradicate any stands of it found on public or private land, or lose all Fed agriculture benefits.

AOP, about 50 years ago the Kansas legislature declared the Nebraska state bird a public nuisance, and the Nebraska legislature resolved that the Kansas state flower was a noxious weed. During college football season, of course.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2025 12:53 PM (NcvvS)

97 "If they choose the risk, so be it"

Precisely. It's an asset. If it devalues, or they chose poorly in the first place, all they can do is try to sell it to the greater fool.
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The problem in Pacific Palisades is not that the property owners chose poorly or even that the homes burnt down. The problem is that the state makes it nearly impossible to build.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 12:54 PM (PcTds)

98 Parts of CA are clearly a fire-adapted ecosystem. Unless you radically change the vegetation cover, it burns. We had big parts of Illinois like that, but we turned it all into corn fields, so not a prob any more.
Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:42 PM (TwZXH)

Interesting that almost all the big fires are out West... you know, where the Government still owns most of the land? and all those fires start on? oh... Gov owned land?

Almost like if someone owns something themselves, they don't want it to burn down.... but the Government?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 12:55 PM (mP0Kj)

99
AOP, about 50 years ago the Kansas legislature declared the Nebraska state bird a public nuisance, and the Nebraska legislature resolved that the Kansas state flower was a noxious weed. During college football season, of course.
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🤣 Some states are serious about their football.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 12:57 PM (PcTds)

100
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 12:50 PM (mP0Kj)

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That train to nowhere is such an embarrassing and massive disaster, I don't see how Newsom answers for it. He'll just have to change the subject. That's probably the tactic he's working on right now. Can you imagine being in strategy sessions with him? "They're gonna keep bringing up the train. What do I say about the train?"

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 12:57 PM (UmB+t)

101 Kindltot, up until five years ago, yes, I was a shit-stirrer. Since then I've mellowed out a lot, and I really hoped morons noticed that. Now I try mainly to make absurd jokes and have fun, rather than start serious rants. I've learned the topics to stay away from, and the futility of arguing in general. So let's be frens.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 12:57 PM (TwZXH)

102 Agin, when even the critics of rail expound on how wonderful rail is, are they really 'critics'.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 12:53 PM (/lPRQ)

And when you reach your destination? You need someone to either pick you up, or rent a car...

There is a small commuter airline that runs flights from Merced to Bakersfield... there are always empty seats on it...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 12:58 PM (mP0Kj)

103 Agin, when even the critics of rail expound on how wonderful rail is, are they really 'critics'.

The main attraction of rail is forcing the serfs to only travel where and when the government wants them to. Everything else is negotiable, especially the actual quality of the experience.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 12:58 PM (QZThv)

104 And the area seems... less than ideal for "low income" housing... but whatever. It's California. The state was always going to screw it's citizens.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Free Bussing !

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 12:59 PM (/lPRQ)

105 ---
The problem in Pacific Palisades is not that the property owners chose poorly or even that the homes burnt down. The problem is that the state makes it nearly impossible to build.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 12:54 PM (PcTds)

And the biggest problem is that there's nothing that can be done, short of revoking California's status as a state, moving troops in and putting it under martial law for a 10 year period of Reconstruction. The corruption is now too deep for them to ever reform themselves.

Someone mentioned the North Koreans upthread; I'm sure we all pity them, but that nation has gotten to the point that the only way the corrupt government could be undone will require the deaths of most of them. They don't really deserve that, but that's the way it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 12:59 PM (uWKK8)

106
Interesting that almost all the big fires are out West... you know, where the Government still owns most of the land? and all those fires start on? oh... Gov owned land?
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And if a fire starts on private land, the owners are told they can't go in to put the fire out.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 12:59 PM (PcTds)

107 Critical Drinker on the new Superman movie. Meh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dtgH9Y4c78&t=633s

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 01:00 PM (Riz8t)

108 Hakeem isn't helping himself when he lies to his base and other Dems/lefties. Millions of Americans did not lose healthcare. Millions of illegals did.

You're forgetting all the Americans who are able-bodied and living off welfare who now have to work to keep Medicaid.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 12, 2025 01:00 PM (xTIDn)

109 @55. Do you also agree that we all deserved Biden and Harris in 2020? Posted by Ian S.

Yeah. We got what we deserved. The people in the country let it happen. This is what happens when people become complacent. People won't get out and vote. Or people just don't give a damn. And we all know the Dems cheat with vote counts, but we don't do anything about it.
That election was on us And we paid for it.

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 01:00 PM (ilX37)

110 Commies always eventually fight each other. Best part of the Spanish Civil War is when they turned on each other.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:01 PM (VofaG)

111 That train to nowhere is such an embarrassing and massive disaster, I don't see how Newsom answers for it. He'll just have to change the subject. That's probably the tactic he's working on right now. Can you imagine being in strategy sessions with him? "They're gonna keep bringing up the train. What do I say about the train?"
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 12:57 PM (UmB+t)

I live 7 miles from Merced... the place they want to put the new 'Station'? Crappy part of town... no hotels, no rent a cars, no restaurants, no nice stores... but they will have to clear out a lot of privately owned small shops in the area... things like Car Stereo stores, or small mechanics.

Yup, will have to use eminent domain on them... but have not yet.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 12, 2025 01:01 PM (mP0Kj)

112 > Alan Dershowitz says there is an "Epstein Client List," but that it contains many people falsely accused by Virginia Guiffre, and also a lot of negative information about Guiffre herself.
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He also said Epstein was running an extortion operation on his "clients." Clients that he wanted to invest large sums of money in Epstein's own biz. The purported "list" and photos are likely blackmail... that did and didn't work as he and Maxwell thought.

The amount of actual "action" between the girls and clients might not be all that some think it is.

And if the rumors about Epstein and Maxwell's connections to US and UK intelligence services are true, the whole thing may have been an elaborate, "false front" operation where the monies were actually being used by the CIA and MI-5 to fund... "stuff."

My tinfoil hat is getting a workout lately.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 01:01 PM (Q4IgG)

113 Hakeem isn't helping himself when he lies to his base and other Dems/lefties. Millions of Americans did not lose healthcare. Millions of illegals did.

From the Democrat perspective, the current Americans need to be eliminated and the illegals are the real Americans. So he's not lying exactly, he's telling the truth and hoping nobody notices.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 01:01 PM (QZThv)

114 AOP, about 50 years ago the Kansas legislature declared the Nebraska state bird a public nuisance, and the Nebraska legislature resolved that the Kansas state flower was a noxious weed. During college football season, of course.
Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2025 12:53 PM (NcvvS)

Yeah, but that was done is the spirit of fun. The U.S. Fed, by using the power of the purse, could probably force Cali, Oregon, and Washington to start eradicating pot farms, or lose millions (billions?) of Fed agriculture dollars. At the very least, it would force them into court to try to overturn such a ruling.

Mischief is important.

And, as far as I am concerned, it would be perfectly legal for the DEA to air-spray dope plantations with Roundup. Have Apache helicopters escort the spray planes.

I'm not really anti-pot. I am really against criminal gangs and democrats, BIRM.

Let the potheads grow their own. Full stop.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 01:01 PM (f+HOd)

115 The news and info coming out of places like New York City and L.A. is proof the democrat party is supported by stupid, greedy and selfish people who all the while ballyhoo about how smart, generous and selfless they are and why others should be like them.

Posted by: Beware The White Liberal DoGooder at July 12, 2025 01:02 PM (R/m4+)

116 I have always thought these massive public projects are not to build but to steal tax money.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:03 PM (+qU29)

117 "The problem in Pacific Palisades is not that the property owners chose poorly or even that the homes burnt down. The problem is that the state makes it nearly impossible to build."

They chose to live in a place that they knew, or should have known, had a natural tendency to burn, (especially after the insurers told them so!) and had a government that was hostile to their interests.

I bought a house that has lead paint. The value suffered upon the recent discovery of that fact. Such are the risks of home buying.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:03 PM (TwZXH)

118 You're forgetting all the Americans who are able-bodied and living off welfare who now have to work to keep Medicaid.

Oregon State Media, with a calm, measured headline:

In hunger-gripped Oregon, Trump’s food stamp cuts could overwhelm its welfare system

And the key bit:

Each month, one in six people in Oregon receive help from the government-run Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — more commonly known as SNAP or food stamps — to put food on their table.

About half of them are seniors, people with disabilities and children, according to the Oregon Department of Human Services.

And about half of them are not.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 12, 2025 01:03 PM (xTIDn)

119 And the biggest problem is that there's nothing that can be done, short of revoking California's status as a state, moving troops in and putting it under martial law for a 10 year period of Reconstruction. The corruption is now too deep for them to ever reform themselves
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Maybe...hope springs eternal...

Someone estimated that California's population is 40% illegal. If they are removed, the voters might have a chance.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 01:03 PM (PcTds)

120

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 12, 2025 01:04 PM (xTIDn)

121 Generally, I think There may be people who argue vociferously on here to get a rise out of people , but I think that it has more to do folks having strong opinions on political things combined with some having problems that they may or may not address and they're burdened by them ( illness, pain, not having personal financial resources , family issues, loneliness, etc. That is combined with that there are people they don't like whose personal history they can't completely know and who they can't see and talk to in person, Therefore our irritation level goes up quickly and then we get people basically on the same side of the political spectrum acting for lack of a better term- bitchy- and using - as one internet commentator called it " more projection that a 12 screen movie theatre" ) which is true of both women and men. We can all act that way on here and the lack of personal contact complicates things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:04 PM (2GCMq)

122 99 >>Some states are serious about their football.

:-) Don't remember which one started it, but the other was definitely retaliating!

Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2025 01:04 PM (NcvvS)

123 @116 Cali is definitely proving that hypothesis with the high speed rail project

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 01:05 PM (JrdHf)

124 >>Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (f+HOd)

The cultivation and/or sale of marijuana is prohibited by Federal law.
Posted by: lurk

Supremacy Clause only means that States cannot have laws that compliment Federal Law.
Direct conflict is A-OK.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 01:06 PM (/lPRQ)

125 121 Fen, if you think I get out of line, tell me.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:06 PM (TwZXH)

126 I bought a house that has lead paint. The value suffered upon the recent discovery of that fact. Such are the risks of home buying.

Suppose you're someone who bought a house in PP during Reagan's tenure. It's home, and you've always voted for the most conservative candidate you could, so you aren't responsible for what's happened to CA in the meantime.

It sucks, but your only real choice is to move to another state.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 01:06 PM (Riz8t)

127 Do you also agree that we all deserved Biden and Harris in 2020?

Since there is good reason to suspect fraud, no. We (collectively) asked for and deserved Obama.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2025 01:07 PM (cFB3U)

128 I bought a house that has lead paint. The value suffered upon the recent discovery of that fact. Such are the risks of home buying.
Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:03 PM (TwZXH)

OTOH, that lead paint has probably kept its good looks, and does not need to be redone, and as long as you are not planning to resell in the near future, the loss in valuation is merely notional.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 01:07 PM (f+HOd)

129
In some ways, this is the story of Trump. The rest of the cowardly GOP marched in lockstep and was afraid to say anything about illegal immigration, for fear of being called racist. Trump, the radical in this case, stepped forward. You'd think people would learn from his example.
Posted by: Archimedes

They learned. They don't want to be called names and shot at.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 01:08 PM (63Dwl)

130 114 >> Yeah, but that was done is the spirit of fun.

I'm not really anti-pot. I am really against criminal gangs and democrats, BIRM.

Completely agree, on all points.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2025 01:09 PM (NcvvS)

131 Time for me to get on with my day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 01:09 PM (f+HOd)

132 Yep. All of a sudden Brad and Meghan are out on the sidewalk with the stroller and the labra doodle and the hoods on the corner are all like Damn! We caint sell nuthin' to dem!
Posted by: Gentrification

Who do you think is out buying bars? Brad and Meghan.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:09 PM (KAi1n)

133 Yup, will have to use eminent domain on them... but have not yet.

The hilarious part is that to get to San Francisco, California HSR is going to have to build a line through the wealthiest suburbs in the United States. (Like the town JB Pritzker grew up in, where houses average $7.9 million.)

They have no idea how they will overcome the wealthy political opposition in these towns - the idea is that they will build the rest of the system first, without knowing how they will get to SF.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 12, 2025 01:09 PM (xTIDn)

134 Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:06 PM (TwZXH)

thanks I'd probably tell you. I haven't had a problem telling some others . Life is complicated and most of us have challenges of one sort or another- some greater some less -and since we could all- except for trolls -be brothers and sisters - it's probably good for all of us- to think a little more before we hit the keys.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:10 PM (2GCMq)

135 Trump should have USDA declare cannabis (other than cordage hemp) to be a noxious weed, and require that all State agriculture agencies to eradicate any stands of it found on public or private land, or lose all Fed agriculture benefits.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

You trying to toss the 2026 mid-terms?

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:10 PM (KAi1n)

136 I find it so funny that people in Big Tech, who are always babbling on about innovation and destroying the old ways, also loooooooooove the 19th century tech of trains.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 01:11 PM (ImXfC)

137 Have a great day AOP!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 01:11 PM (PcTds)

138 Dems advocating for HSR and Putin in Ukraine are both examples of things they wish they could go back in time to undo.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 01:11 PM (Riz8t)

139 "It's home, and you've always voted for the most conservative candidate you could, so you aren't responsible for what's happened to CA in the meantime."

There are many ways a neighborhood can go bad over a series of decades, and the asset owner really ought to watch that and respond accordingly. If you get a hint that your hood is turning ghetto, nobody will sympathize with you in ten years if you don't move out.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:11 PM (TwZXH)

140
And if the rumors about Epstein and Maxwell's connections to US and UK intelligence services are true, the whole thing may have been an elaborate, "false front" operation where the monies were actually being used by the CIA and MI-5 to fund... "stuff."

My tinfoil hat is getting a workout lately.

YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer

There was a guy on Coast to Coast AM last night who posited that Maxwell was running the show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 01:12 PM (63Dwl)

141 I bought a house that has lead paint. The value suffered upon the recent discovery of that fact. Such are the risks of home buying.

1) Make sure everyone knows the house has lead paint.
2) Apply for federal and state grants to mitigate the environmental disaster lead paint causes, especially to woman and chirruns of color, who like eating the stuff.
3) Once your grants are approved, burn the house down for the insurance payoff and move.

Posted by: Lead Paint And You at July 12, 2025 01:12 PM (R/m4+)

142
Yup, will have to use eminent domain on them... but have not yet.
Posted by: Romeo13

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Your local state rep must have been one of the ones who traded favors in Sacramento to get a "Station"? in the supposed nonstop lightning bolt from LA to San Fran then? In the bustling hub of Merced (no offense intended, just, it's funny).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:12 PM (UmB+t)

143 some ways, this is the story of Trump. The rest of the cowardly GOP marched in lockstep and was afraid to say anything about illegal immigration, for fear of being called racist. Trump, the radical in this case, stepped forward. You'd think people would learn from his example.
Posted by: Archimedes

You know Trump said Romney's self deportation policy was cruel . Trump is all over the place depending on the situation. I'm just happy Trump 2.0 has been kicking ass and frustrated that some conservatives are stopping the momentum by being over the top about the BBB and Epstein.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:13 PM (VofaG)

144 I love you Fen. You've been a positive influence in me in ways that you'll never know! Please believe me when I say that I'm not trying to make enemies any more.

Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:13 PM (TwZXH)

145 The religion of peace is at it again. A father in Pakistan shot his 16 yr old daughter because she wouldn't delete her Tik Tok account. I'm sure Mohammed had a lot to say about TikTok

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 01:14 PM (JrdHf)

146 There are many ways a neighborhood can go bad over a series of decades, and the asset owner really ought to watch that and respond accordingly. If you get a hint that your hood is turning ghetto, nobody will sympathize with you in ten years if you don't move out.
Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:11 PM (TwZXH)

100%

A conservative in 2005 California? I have some sympathy because your home is starting to go to shit due to no fault of your own.

In 2025 Cali? Dude, you made the choice to live there for the past 20 years as it’s gone full 3rd World. I have no sympathy anymore.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 01:14 PM (ImXfC)

147 Weed is definitely a gateway drug.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:15 PM (VofaG)

148
I find it so funny that people in Big Tech, who are always babbling on about innovation and destroying the old ways, also loooooooooove the 19th century tech of trains.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

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I believe that at the time that train to nowhere was conceived, air travel between LA and San Fran was a cheaper and faster alternative than the train could ever be.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:15 PM (UmB+t)

149 Posted by: gp Got Sick Bars at July 12, 2025 01:13 PM (TwZXH

Thanks. That's very kind of you and I appreciate that. I don't think anyone is here to make enemies of other ASHQ posters. I don't think that of you. I appreciate your contributions and I pray for the blessings on all here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 01:18 PM (2GCMq)

150 You know Trump said Romney's self deportation policy was cruel .

Huh. I had forgotten that.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 01:20 PM (Riz8t)

151 If you get a hint that your hood is turning ghetto, nobody will sympathize with you in ten years if you don't move out.
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I can think of several reasons why one might not be able to move out, therefore I will have sympathy.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 01:21 PM (PcTds)

152 California is beautiful. I can also understand not wanting to give up or if you have family there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:21 PM (Yamow)

153 I'm glad we didn't move to Southern CA when my father was offered a relocation when the Lockheed operation closed down in Louisiana. He went there on a 3 months temp assignment and when it was over he turned down the job offer. He later told me he didn't want to raise his kids in CA. Did I mention this was late the late 60's and my Dad hated hippies?

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:22 PM (VofaG)

154 Weed is definitely a gateway drug.
Posted by: polynikes

After alcohol. No one tries weed before alcohol (well, I've never met anyone who went that path). BTW, weed is nothing like other drugs, so it's not like going from beer to bourbon. It's not like LSD, heroin, meth, etc. are simply stronger versions of weed.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:22 PM (KAi1n)

155 Our daughter and family fled CA about this time last year. The cost of living was killing them. The 'hood they were in wasn't bad, but it was going downhill pretty fast. Crime was on the rise, transients and the mentally ill were beginning to roam about and the p3d0 threat was getting out of hand. And the cops, who's station was literally down the street, did nothing as was the city's instructions.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 01:24 PM (Q4IgG)

156 The Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren, AOC, etc. models.

Wealthy, but certainly not billionaires (at the present).

Taggers on, actually lazy about collecting their millions. Look behind them; others are always doing the heavy lifting.

Like DEI college boards, they all have that little "hook" that gives them a foot up, a 2nd glance.

They love the drama & put roadblocks in front of those they're concerned may be better.
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Reportedly, Glass House Farms, a major part of Glass House Brands Inc., has described itself as one of the "fastest-growing vertically integrated cannabis companies in the U.S." Its website states, in part, Today we’re the largest cannabis flower brand in the largest market in the world.

Federally, there's the USDOL Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) & Migrant and Seasonal Agricultural Worker Protection Act

And California -
Director Industrial Relations: Labor Commissioner's Office - FAQ’S Regarding Cannabis Cultivation In California

Department of Cannabis, California

CalOSH & more.

So it looks like weak 'rules' clearly being skirted & also totally ignoring child labor and/or child safety.

But there's the catch - what covers children?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 01:24 PM (NFX2v)

157 That lead paint will be the last thing to kill you is my guess

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:25 PM (+qU29)

158 I bought a house that has lead paint. The value suffered upon the recent discovery of that fact. Such are the risks of home buying.
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I didn't think lead paint was a big deal anymore. IIRC, most environmental agencies recognize now that the most effective mitigation for lead paint was to paint over it. Stripping and/or demoing the structure spreads much more lead into the environment.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 12, 2025 01:25 PM (lPeS+)

159 I had a heavy workout session yesterday evening (beginning with dumbbell presses 4 sets of 10x50lbs), sore as hell all night, and I really wish I had had some gummies.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:26 PM (KAi1n)

160 Now do asbestos.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:27 PM (Yamow)

161 Sometimes I think Medicaid is the EBT of foodstamps. We would save a ton of money if we went to Free Clinics and/or large or even complete write-offs of doctor's charity work but, then you wont have poverty with dignity. Going to the Free Clinic, just as paying with foodstamps, tells everyone that you are on the dole.

Posted by: Tilapia at July 12, 2025 01:27 PM (jc0TO)

162 *off sock from days ago*

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:28 PM (jc0TO)

163 Lead paint? Don't you mean "radiation-proof protective coating"?

Posted by: PabloD at July 12, 2025 01:28 PM (oyCAU)

164 California's cannabis growing regulations are mind-bogglingly complex and super taxed (I had a case for awhile involving a commercial grow operation). It's no wonder there are so many illegal grows. The problem isn't pot, it's government overregulation and corruption.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:29 PM (KAi1n)

165 Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:22 PM (KAi1n)

Same defense I always hear. There is not anyone who does drugs that hadn't done weed first . They weren't trying to get a better high from alcohol whose 'high' is nothing like recreational drugs. And I have friends and acquaintances who became potheads and went on to harder drugs who rarely touched alcohol.

Alcohol had its own separate issues.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:30 PM (VofaG)

166 Not far from me a small town had a asbestos factory a long time ago. Many houses in the area had asbestos siding, shingles and seen lots of pipes wrapped in public buildings including schools. Another thing I would guess would be the last thing to kill you.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:30 PM (+qU29)

167
OT, Rubio still has some house cleaning to do.

https://x.com/John_Hudson/status/
1943757323702612482

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 01:32 PM (UmB+t)

168 This is from a guy who might have 500 pounds of lead piles around the house.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:32 PM (+qU29)

169 California is beautiful. I can also understand not wanting to give up or if you have family there.[/i

Parts of it certainly are and I still miss them since leaving in '93. And some people really may not have a viable alternative to staying. For the rest, we make the best choices we can and live with it.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2025 01:32 PM (1C8dh)

170 Now do asbestos.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:27 PM (Yamow)

I handled so many asbestos claims where for example, the former shipyard worker who is 83 years old is now having breathing issues. Claims xray markers show signs of asbestos exposure . Pay me.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:34 PM (VofaG)

171 The problem isn't pot, it's government overregulation and corruption.
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This is a sentence that is applicable to almost every situation: the problem isn't ___, it's government over regulation and corruption.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 01:34 PM (PcTds)

172 I think one of the reasons used to justify pot legalizations is the idea that weed isn't itself some kind of fish weir that funnels you to more dangerous drugs but that buying illegal dope puts you in contact with people who both use and sell the more dangerous stuff. I mean, you don't run in heroin dealers at the liquor store.

I put forward no opinion as to whether this is true or not but it is at least a colorable argument.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:35 PM (jc0TO)

173 "who rarely touched alcohol"

"Rarely" is an integer > 0. You only have to go through that gate once. In an hour I'm going to a celebration of life of one of my best friends who died in the ICU in May. Was it the pot? No. The acid? No. The tobacco? (That probably caused his heart attack.) The alcohol? Absolutely. You can only clean your liver with ethanol so many times before it's all scar tissue. Dying of cirrhosis is awful.

Alcohol HAS its own separate issues, not "had". And you know what? I much, much prefer weed to alcohol. So I'm going to stand up for me.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:35 PM (KAi1n)

174 Massachusetts put in a rule about including low income housing with new development. For luxury condos and small town neighborhoods, this was like adding a dog turd to vanilla ice cream. Eventually these dog turds rendered quaint little villages across the Commonwealth into Dog Turdtowns.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 12, 2025 01:35 PM (wBaIH)

175 Got some Alka Seltzer Gold or baking soda? Works best near the time of exercise, but still might help some. Quarter to half teaspoon baking soda.

Posted by: KT at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM (xekrU)

176 In short, illegal weed makes it more likely that you will fall in with a bad crowd, as my parent used to say.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM (jc0TO)

177 NYC has around 8 million people. This Democrat run off they just had less than a half million voted. If people don't care they don't care.

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM (ilX37)

178 Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 12, 2025 01:35 PM

Truth.

*waves from the People's Democratic Republic of MA*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 12, 2025 01:38 PM (M6DsK)

179 But there's the catch - what covers children?
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 01:24 PM (NFX2v)

At a guess, Migrant and Seasonal Protection Act (related to FLSA in CFR 29) and probably hazardous orders under Child Labor (agrigulutre) Bulletin 102. I would have to know what jobs the kids were doing, and their ages to figure out what they were violating, but during the investigation by the USDOL the goods can be declared a "hot good" as possibly being "tainted by child labor" and held from interstate commerce, and possibly be held from banking.
If the USDOL and ICE are willing to turn the screws like Obama's did, then there it is going to be rougher than a mile of bad road.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 01:38 PM (D7oie)

180 A shipyard worker was taking the blankets of asbestos, breaking them up and wrapping pipes and such or taking those wrappings off . Either way sending clouds of asbestos into the air to breath.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:38 PM (+qU29)

181 NYC has around 8 million people. This Democrat run off they just had less than a half million voted. If people don't care they don't care.
Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM

Isn't it true that between felony convictions and not being citizens, half the populous can't vote anyway? Or is that just blackguarding New Yorkers?

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:38 PM (jc0TO)

182 Marxists love to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator, except themselves the true Marxists

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:39 PM (+qU29)

183 All modern-day commuter rail projects are boondoggles. Anyone with evidence to the contrary please step to the front of the line to present it.

Posted by: Welfare for the rich and connected at July 12, 2025 01:39 PM (TbWk/)

184 Alcohol HAS its own separate issues, not "had". And you know what? I much, much prefer weed to alcohol. So I'm going to stand up for me.
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 01:35 PM (KAi1n)

It's a gateway drug. Alcohol is not. Enjoy being a pothead. I am happy it hasn't led you to harder stuff ( I assume) and I do like your new nic though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:40 PM (VofaG)

185 174 Massachusetts put in a rule about including low income housing with new development. For luxury condos and small town neighborhoods, this was like adding a dog turd to vanilla ice cream. Eventually these dog turds rendered quaint little villages across the Commonwealth into Dog Turdtowns.

Here in deep blue NoVa (Fairfax Co.) the turd is escorted in by the school board. They make a fetish out of destroying every good school to achieve some dubious level of racial and/or economic diversity. When the schools go, the local housing eventually follows. It doesn't matter if you paid a 50% premium to be in a good school, they'll destroy it because they can.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 01:40 PM (Riz8t)

186 Marxists love to bring everyone down to the lowest common denominator, except themselves the true Marxists
Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:39 PM

A truism, Levelers only level down.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:40 PM (jc0TO)

187 Remember the Twilight Zone movie, too, where two children died while actually working.

I saw no nationwide rush to ensure children labor protections.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 01:40 PM (NFX2v)

188 On the whole, child labor is directed (at least in Oregon, at least 10 years ago) mostly by the Feds, and they only get involved when it suits them.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 01:41 PM (D7oie)

189 I do like your new nic though.

What was it?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 12, 2025 01:41 PM (Riz8t)

190 I181 NYC has around 8 million people. This Democrat run off they just had less than a half million voted. If people don't care they don't care.
Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 01:37 PM

Isn't it true that between felony convictions and not being citizens, half the populous can't vote anyway? Or is that just blackguarding New Yorkers?
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:38 PM (jc0TO)
I believe you got it right.

Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 01:43 PM (UYYJi)

191 Per the webz

As of 2023, approximately 36% of New York City residents were foreign-born, which is one of the highest rates among U.S. cities.
This percentage has remained relatively stable over the years, with data indicating that the foreign-born population in New York City was 3.07 million in 2013, representing 36% of the city's population

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:44 PM (jc0TO)

192 Fun discussion everyone.

Peace

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at July 12, 2025 01:46 PM (PcTds)

193 Reefer is a gateway to rape and manic ragtime piano playing. Beware!

Posted by: Madness! MADNESS!!! at July 12, 2025 01:46 PM (TbWk/)

194 Any fair and honest criticism of pot is always reefer madness?

Strange.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:48 PM (Yamow)

195 Any fair and honest criticism of pot is always reefer madness?

Strange.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:48 PM

and yet peyote always gets a bye.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:49 PM (jc0TO)

196 I don't know enough about peyote to know one way or another. Discussions usually do not get charged when it is brought up though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:51 PM (Yamow)

197 I don't know enough about peyote to know one way or another. Discussions usually do not get charged when it is brought up though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:51 PM

I think most people have limited exposure to psychedelics.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:52 PM (jc0TO)

198 I think most people have limited exposure to psychedelics.
Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:52 PM (jc0TO)

Fair. Hearing people describe acid for example, I always thought 'and this is fun?'

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:55 PM (Yamow)

199 196 I don't know enough about peyote to know one way or another. Discussions usually do not get charged when it is brought up though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 12, 2025 01:51 PM (Yamow)
I was prescribed a synthetic peyote when my glands were wrecked be radiation.

Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 01:56 PM (UYYJi)

200 and this is fun?

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 01:58 PM (jc0TO)

201 Lol people who live in Blue States

Live longer
Have higher incomes
Are better educated
Have lower crime rates

Why is that ?

Why is it that the population of most cities is increasing while rural areas are losing their populations (especially young people who have more of a chance to relocate) ?

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 12, 2025 02:01 PM (cxVab)

202 most people

Posted by: JackStraw at July 12, 2025 02:05 PM (viF8m)

203 Shut up, Dunce.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 02:06 PM (jc0TO)

204 In the meantime, let's check in on Canada.

https://tinyurl.com/595r9rc5

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 12, 2025 02:51 PM (/U5Yz)

205 Trump should have USDA declare cannabis (other than cordage hemp) to be a noxious weed, and require that all State agriculture agencies to eradicate any stands of it found on public or private land, or lose all Fed agriculture benefits.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 11:56 AM (f+HOd)

Marijuana is still an illegal drug per the Federal government. We've been warned not to smoke it, or invest in cannabis farming/dispensaries. It's a good way to lose your job if you work or contract for Uncle Sam.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 03:01 PM (pJWtt)

206 Managed to sleep through the whole thread. Dadgum.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 03:07 PM (zH8im)

207 199. I was prescribed a synthetic peyote when my glands were wrecked be radiation.
Posted by: Eromero

I use lemon. Drops, lots of lemon in water, lemonade

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 03:15 PM (NFX2v)

208 PET NOOD IS UP

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 03:23 PM (+qU29)

209 188 On the whole, child labor is directed (at least in Oregon, at least 10 years ago) mostly by the Feds, and they only get involved when it suits them.
Posted by: Kindltot

Yes, if a State Plan State such as Oregon takes it upon itself to assume labor (environmental, whatever regulations), they must be at least as comprehensive as federal regulations.

But the federal regulations are lacking - children are not employees or even independent contractors - so Labor regulations cannot 'capture' and protect them.

It's up to state-level agencies, Child Protective Services (CPS) or Department of Children and Family Services (DCFS), to investigate reports of child abuse and neglect and provide services to families.

And so in this instance, the corporation plays against the government. Close the gaps or go away.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 12, 2025 03:25 PM (NFX2v)

The Classical Saturday Morning Coffee Break & Prayer Revival

[Meme H/T The Grateful]

Happy Bastille Day you Froggy McFrogs.

*****

Good morning boys and girls and everything in between. Before we enter the Prayer Revival just a few housekeeping matters to go over. (Rulz for those of you in Spooner)

1) This is an open thread. Feel free to lurk, opine and/or bloviate.
2) Be kind, be nice. Trolls are sensitive.
3) Do not run with sharp objects. Nope, don't even think about it.
4) Have a great weekend

AoSHQ Weekly Prayer List
Please submit any prayer requests to me, “Annie’s Stew” at apaslo atsign hotmail dot com. Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks unless we receive an update.
Prayer Requests:
5/3 – D asked for prayers for his wife, Susan, who has been having some issues. They went to the hospital on 5/1, and all the signs are pointing to pancreatic cancer. They meet with other doctors on 5/5. Any prayers would be a blessing.
6/5 Update – The doctors have confirmed it is cancer, but they have not yet determined if it can be removed, or if chemotherapy will be needed first, to shrink the mass. They are so thankful for all the prayers and ask for them to continue.
7/3 Update – D asked for everyone’s prayers. At Susan’s appointment on 7/1, the doctor didn’t like what he saw. Susan has been in a lot of pain and was admitted to the hospital for a few days. They send their thanks for the love and prayers.
5/10 – Cosda asked for prayers for his wife, who recently had a mole removed that came back as melanoma cancer. She is scheduled for surgery next week, and it looks like that should remove it completely.
6/20 Update – The PET and brain scans showed no active cancer cells, which is great. But since it’s melanoma, and cancer was found in a lymph node, she is going to receive immunotherapy for the next year. Thanks to all. The prayers are working!
5/17 – neverenoughcaffiene asked for prayers for her sister-in-law, Jackie, who is looking at dialysis. Her kidneys have been failing for several years is she is getting close based on her numbers. Hopefully new meds will help.
6/28 Update – Jackie is stabilized and is working on exercising to make her last vacation to Italy in October. Thank you for the prayers; they definitely helped.
5/24 – Captain Obvious requested prayers for his friend J, who will be having surgery on 6/9 to try and relieve her chronic pain. She also has concerns because she is on blood thinners and nearly bled out after her hip replacement. Please pray for the best possible outcome and also to relieve her anxiety.
6/12 Update – J had her surgery on 6/9 and it went very well; the surgeon had to do less work than he originally thought. J is already experiencing relief from the chronic pain she had. Thanks to all for the prayers.
5/29 – Teresa in Fort Worth sent an update and her thanks for all the prayers and words of encouragement. They have sustained her and her family as she continues to battle cancer. She continues to receive good news: her oncologist is quite pleased with her response to the current medication protocol; they are decreasing the lab work frequency to every other week instead of weekly; the side effects from chemo have been barely noticeable; she can just take 4 tiny pills for chemo instead of spending one day a week at the cancer center. It’s been 7 months so far, and she expects that at some point the tumors will start growing again, but for now, they are encouraged.
6/6 Update – Teresa has a side effect from the chemo – her fingernails and toenails are starting to loosen and “lift” off their nail beds. It is painful, and also carries a risk of infection.
6/4 – Grumpy and Recalcitrant asked for prayers for his mother (Lynda), asking to give her strength and healing. Also, for the medical staff to be prompted to do a complete and thorough job diagnosing her.
6/7 Update – Lynda has been diagnosed with aortic stenosis. This is a correctable medical issue using surgery where they go in endoscopically via the leg, up to the heart, to fix the lower heart valve that is leaking.
6/6 – tbodie Lurker requested prayers for his son, tbodie Jr, who is in his mid-30s and was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. Please pray for healing for tbodie Jr and for peace for his family.
6/11 – Legally Sufficient asks the Horde’s prayers for her friend, Bubba, who was in a bad auto wreck on 6/8. Prayers for comfort, healing, and strength are needed for Bubba and his family. He is in ICU and will be there for a couple more weeks. Thank you!
6/18 Update – Legally Sufficient asks for continued prayers for healing, strength, and comfort for Bubba. God is great! Bubba is recovering from pneumonia (on top of the other injuries from his vehicle accident) but he is fully participating in PT, walking 25 steps a day with assistance, his breathing is improving, and he is finally eating solid food! Prayers for Bubba, his wife and family, and Bubba’s many friends are very much appreciated.
6/14 – MkY sent an update on his wife Judy’s battle with kidney cancer. Like Teresa in Ft. Worth, her tumors are shrinking. The shrinkage is so dramatic, they are discussing removing the cancerous kidney. Since that is the original source, that would make it easier to attack and perhaps kill the other tumors. Thank you so much for the prayers.
6/14 – Our Country is Screwed sent prayers of thanksgiving for all the thoughts and prayers as chemo continues. It has really been uplifting. The side effects have been minimal as well, thankfully, and there are 8 weekly treatments to go.
6/14 – Inspector Cussword requested prayers for Brother Tim. He has had a horrible time, living in his car and has just been handed a cancer diagnosis. Please pray for God’s Provision to be clear and comforting to him, and for his healing.
6/28 Update (from Brother Tim himself) - On 6/23, Brother Tim had surgery to remove the cancerous mass and some nearby lymph nodes. He has been in the hospital since then. He has trouble walking already, and is concerned about how much mobility he has lost after all this. He is hopeful that PT will be able to get him properly mobile before he is discharged, or at least that a rehab facility could be arranged. He should know by 7/4 if the cancer has spread. He still has long-term housing and income issues. Prayers are appreciated.
7/5 – Update - Brother Tim posted a comment that he learned on 6/30 that the lymph nodes showed no signs of the cancer, which means that it has not spread.
6/14 – Inogame asked for prayers for his wife and family. It’s very early, but they may have baby #5 on the way. They appreciate the support and prayers of the Horde.
6/24 – Fenelon Spoke asked for prayers on behalf of Sock Money and family, at the death of his brother, and for AOP who has PVC and spent hours in the hospital on 6/23. Also, Pawn could use prayers due to work issues; people are being laid off. Please pray for Israel as well as our country, and for Donald Trump, JD Vance, their families, and all of the Trump administration.
6/28 – Dave R requested prayers for healing, strength, recovery, and curing, as he was recently diagnosed with non-Hodgkin Lymphoma. He is 62 and a long-time AoSHQ reader.
7/5 Update – Chemo starts on 7/7.
6/28 – H asked for prayers for a mom of two elementary aged boys who lost her mother 3 weeks ago, and her husband on 6/28, both to cancer.
6/28 – Ben Had requested prayers for Jay Guevara, as he was seriously ill.
6/30 Update – IrishEi posted that Jay Guevara has passed away, and offered prayers for peaceful repose in God’s hands and for comfort for his loved ones.
7/3 – 469 requested prayers for some medical tests he has coming up.
7/3 – Ciampino’s daughter posted to let us know that Ciampino is back in the hospital. He is dehydrated again. His kidney cyst is back and bigger, so he will need to have another surgery, but they don’t know when.
7/7 Update – Ciampino passed away. His daughter posted how much he loved everyone’s witty humor on the site, and sent her thanks for giving him years of enjoyment and community.
7/5 – Boswell asks for prayers for his best friend Mark’s mother. She is 90 years old and was diagnosed with sepsis after her colon burst. She had surgery on 7/3, but her recovery is not going well. She is too weak for the tests she needs to find out what is wrong. Please pray that she recovers fully, as she and Mark are very close. He is devastated.
For submission guidelines and other relevant info, please contact Annie's Stew, who is managing the prayer list. You can contact her at apaslo at-sign hotmail dot com. If you see a prayer request posted in a thread comment, feel free to copy and paste it and e-mail it to Annie's Stew. She tries to keep up with the requests in the threads, but she's not here all of the time, so she may not see it unless you e-mail it to her. Please note: Prayer requests are generally removed after four weeks or so unless we receive an update.
2 Corinthians 4:8-9
We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair, persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian (ONT Cob Emeritus) at 07:30 AM

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1 Frogman blend.

Posted by: goatexchange at July 12, 2025 07:30 AM (hyS0X)

2 I'll just wait here then?

Posted by: goatexchange at July 12, 2025 07:31 AM (hyS0X)

3 Early today!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:33 AM (omVj0)

4 Morning, coffee people,

Today I woke up late, for me. Somehow I feel like somebody has stolen part of my day and I'll never catch up.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:35 AM (omVj0)

5 Good morning,
I could have posted this when I first woke up..

I should have then I could have stomped Pixy

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian Who Lives In The Thawed Out Tundra at July 12, 2025 07:36 AM (QXQ4l)

6 I have that chick with the leg warmers on her arms selling me something.
Better than the ad with grandma trapped in the shower

Posted by: Accomack at July 12, 2025 07:39 AM (RBD82)

7 Good morning again dear horde and thank you mh and annie and you morons for praying.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 07:39 AM (RIvkX)

8 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 07:40 AM (Q4IgG)

9 This is the brother of G'rump/toby928. I had posted thanks in the ONT a couple days ago thanking you all for prayers after my burst appendix/sepsis episode. He tells me the real prayer warriors are the morning crew, so thank you all. I am recovering well.

Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at July 12, 2025 07:40 AM (VTJ0e)

10
The girls is all salty
The boys is all sweet
The food ain't too shabby
An' they piss in the street
Down in France

youtu.be/W6KkdhwVP4w

Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at July 12, 2025 07:40 AM (vFG9F)

11 Good morning Mis Hum and Horde

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:42 AM (+qU29)

12 Geddy's voice first thing in the AM. A real waker upper! Thanks, Mis Hum!

Posted by: Rude Awakening at July 12, 2025 07:43 AM (G5+As)

13 I shouldn't be awake yet not getting to bed until after 2am

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:43 AM (+qU29)

14 I thought it was Sunday. Also, I've been to Spooner.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 07:43 AM (SfhV1)

15 Posted by: Racially Ambiguous Honky at July 12, 2025 07:40 AM (VTJ0e)

b"h for good health

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 07:44 AM (RIvkX)

16 https://tinyurl.com/bde255sm

Week in Pictures

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 07:46 AM (RIvkX)

17 "Geddy's voice first thing in the AM. A real waker upper! "

Is that what that was? I thought it was a rabbit getting mauled outside.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:46 AM (vFG9F)

18
Happy Bastille Day you Froggy McFrogs

You are early by two days.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 07:46 AM (Tv15w)

19 Help! Help!

Posted by: Grandma trapped in the shower at July 12, 2025 07:46 AM (XQo4F)

20 Now we know where all those illegal kids went.

They are slave laborers on Gavin Newsom's pot farms in Ventura County.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 07:48 AM (RIvkX)

21
Grandma trapped in the shower

The beginning of the end for Penthouse Letters.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 07:49 AM (Tv15w)

22 It's sad to realize that some of our friends on the prayer list have passed away.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 07:49 AM (SfhV1)

23 Wolfus, in the Tech Thread I gave you my prescription for the car battery situation.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025 07:52 AM (XQo4F)

24 Good morning!

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 07:53 AM (TwZXH)

25 To all that are suffering from cancer; by the grace of God go I. And to Teresa in Fort Worth, you're a life lesson in endurance and will; hell of way to come to admiring somebody.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at July 12, 2025 07:53 AM (NXz8h)

26 It's sad to realize that some of our friends on the prayer list have passed away.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025

***
I hope Ciampino wrote down some of his unique experiences growing up in Africa.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:54 AM (omVj0)

27
Good morning! Again!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 07:55 AM (HZi96)

28 Wolfus, in the Tech Thread I gave you my prescription for the car battery situation.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025

***
I saw; thanks. I don't think I know anyone with a Costco membership, though!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:55 AM (omVj0)

29 https://tinyurl.com/5n6h239u
Powerlineblog.com week in pictures

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:55 AM (+qU29)

30 En mi casa toman Bustelo!

Posted by: Caffiend at July 12, 2025 07:59 AM (G5+As)

31 “ Yet the Lord longs to be gracious to you; therefore he will rise up to show you compassion. For the Lord is a God of justice. Blessed are all who wait for him!”

Isaiah 30:18

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2025 08:02 AM (hLl4k)

32 I keep going to the front door. There's a bird, a starling I think, that keeps getting into the cat food. He's persistent and not afraid of me.

Or the cats.

The lesson here escapes me.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 08:03 AM (Q4IgG)

33 Happy Bastille Day you Froggy McFrogs
You are early by two days.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 07:46 AM (Tv15w)
~~~~~

Yep, Bastille is the 14th.

Today is the 12th of July which is celebrated by dirty proddies of the Orange Order in Northern Ireland with parades commemorating the Battle of the Boyne.

Posted by: IrishEi at July 12, 2025 08:04 AM (3ImbR)

34 En mi casa toman Bustelo!
Posted by: Caffiend at July 12, 2025

***
Cafe Morro tambien

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 08:04 AM (omVj0)

35 Fortune favors the bold.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 08:04 AM (/HDaX)

36 For my diet cola/cold brew concentrate concoction experiments, so far I've discovered that Cameron's concentrate tastes distinctly better than Great Value's, but at twice the price. I will try Dunkin Donuts concentrate soon. I will also be trying chocolate syrup for mocha synthesis at some point, but first I have to make repairs to the fume hood and eye wash station.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:05 AM (TwZXH)

37 The lesson here escapes me.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 08:03 AM (Q4IgG)

Don't dare turn off EBT without extreme precautions first.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 12, 2025 08:06 AM (i24o9)

38
"Grace be with you all."

Posted by: Hebrews 13:25 at July 12, 2025 08:07 AM (XQo4F)

39 Kenny Barron:
youtube.com/watch?v=mfftxIW_rdY

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:07 AM (TwZXH)

40 Did Ciampino's daughters reach their Go Fund Me goal for his cremation?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 12, 2025 08:08 AM (2NHgQ)

41 May Jay Guerva & Ciampino rest in God's peace.

I pray that the Good Lord hears our prayers - those mentioned above, and those held in the silence of our hearts.

I give thanks to the Lord for he is Good. His love is everlasting.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 12, 2025 08:09 AM (7v6oI)

42 Good morning.

Statistics show that substantially more household injuries are caused by dull sharp objects than by sharp sharp objects. Something about more effort exerted trying to cut with a dull knife making you prone to slip and accidentally stab yourself or a family member or household guest. I learned this in Boy Scouts.

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:11 AM (poXs5)

43 Update because I'm slow and banished to cell phone posting which sucks: I got into rehab on Monday 7/7, and am making progress. God willing I can be hobbling around normally before terribly long!

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at July 12, 2025 08:11 AM (QvWzx)

44 "The lesson here escapes me."

I think the lesson here is gratitude. Gratitude that you're not dealing with the demonic kitten from the ONT.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025 08:11 AM (XQo4F)

45 Good morning Horde. Happy weekend. Prayers for the Horde and their loved ones in need.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 08:12 AM (JrdHf)

46 I got into rehab on Monday 7/7, and am making progress. God willing I can be hobbling around normally before terribly long!

Posted by: Brother Tim sez at July 12, 2025 08:11 AM (QvWzx)

That's great news, Brother Tim!

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 08:12 AM (SfhV1)

47 I very much admired Ciampino's big heart, and Jay Guevara's hatred of woke nonsense and ahistorical myths. Rest in peace, and consolations to all who loved them.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:14 AM (TwZXH)

48 Moar memey goodness from Bookworm Room:

https://is.gd/HBo5Oj

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 12, 2025 08:15 AM (PiwSw)

49 Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:14 AM (TwZXH)

I knew Jay Guevara in real life...he was a fine man with an amazing mind.

In a couple of days I'll post a remembrance website created by some of his friends.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Conspiracy Theorist at July 12, 2025 08:16 AM (d3xAd)

50 Finished up breakfast, coffee, and a pipe. Time now for a shave and shower.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 08:18 AM (omVj0)

51 Bacon is 73% fat and salty.
Me too, bacon. Me too.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025 08:19 AM (XQo4F)

52 Hey, Racially Ambiguous Honky...pull up a seat. You fit good.

Posted by: creeper at July 12, 2025 08:21 AM (zFwIe)

53
Exception to the Rule - a limerick

In this era of conflict and strife
In a knife fight that threatens your life
When a body gets a fright
And the instinct's "fight or flight"
Then it's okay to run with a knife

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:22 AM (poXs5)

54
Exception to the Rule - a limerick

muldoon

Now do scissors!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 08:24 AM (Tv15w)

55 53 Pretty soon AI is going to figure out how you perform that sorcery, Muldoon. It's too terrible to contemplate what happens after that.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:26 AM (TwZXH)

56
Tasks await me outdoors (or "out of doors", if that's how it works for you).

Try as I might, I cannot put them aside as we are heading back north tomorrow morning.

Later.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 08:26 AM (Tv15w)

57 >>>>>Exception to the Rule - a limerick

muldoon

Now do scissors!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 08:24 AM (Tv15w)
*******
Yes, please do!!

Posted by: Busty Lesbians at July 12, 2025 08:27 AM (ZvhGA)

58 I’m starting to feel like the 6 million dollar man but with no special powers. Prosthetic knee and other artificial parts… had eye surgery a week ago.

Technology in medicine is fantastic these days but I’m here to tell you the replacement parts are not as good as the originals. My eye is healing very well but still one more week with no exercise. Usually Saturday morning I’d be out doing my weekend “long run” (10 miles or so). Eye surgeon said take it easy one more week so I’m stir crazy.

I feel very thankful though… usually anyone with an artificial knee is told “don’t run!!” But I’ve been running with it for a few years now and it’s fine… not as good as the original equipment though!

Our Creator is unmatched but the equipment wears out in this imperfect world

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2025 08:29 AM (i5Vkf)

59 Has moron robbie / boron cobbie commented lately?
I haven't seen his nic in awhile.

Posted by: old chick at July 12, 2025 08:30 AM (F3Dlr)

60 gp:
"Grok, write a limerick about Muldoon, the limerick-composing physician."

Grok 3:
"Muldoon, a doc with a quill,
Wrote limericks with quite a thrill.
His rhymes healed the soul,
Made the sick feel whole,
Curing woes with his poetic skill."

Time elapsed: one second.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:31 AM (TwZXH)

61 Ok, so I asked DDG's AI tool to give me a limerick about running with a knife:

In a rush with a knife in my hand,
I dashed through the park, oh so grand.
But I tripped on a stone,
And I let out a groan,
Now I’m stuck with a cut, unplanned!

Meh.
I prefer Muldoon.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025 08:31 AM (XQo4F)

62 Horde mind.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025 08:34 AM (XQo4F)

63 Good morning good people.

Prayers for all Hordian intentions - those requested and those known but to God.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 08:34 AM (cYBz/)

64 Let's get more meta.

"Write a limerick about LLMs that writes limericks."

"An LLM with a knack for a rhyme,
Spins limericks in record-fast time.
With a prompt and a hum,
Words cleverly come,
Crafting verses both witty and prime!"

Nothing good can possibly come from this.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:34 AM (TwZXH)

65 Geddy's voice first thing in the AM. A real waker upper! "

Is that what that was? I thought it was a rabbit getting mauled outside.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:46 AM (vFG

If it sounds like a really old, corded power drill, it must be Geddy Lee.

Posted by: MadameMayhem at July 12, 2025 08:35 AM (dL+yU)

66 Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:36 AM (ZOv7s)

67 Glory to the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

I have prayed Rosaries for the peaceful repose of the souls of Jay Guerva, Ciampino and those killed in the flooding in Texas. May the Lord comfort their families.

I have also prayed for the intentions, both stated and unstated, of members of the Horde.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:36 AM (pJWtt)

68 Oh my Jesus! Forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of hell. Lead all souls to heaven, especially those most in need of Thy mercy. Amen.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:36 AM (ZOv7s)

69 How did it get to be Saturday morning again? Well, to be fair, that's a good thing...

Prayers up for those who have asked us for them;
Prayers up for those who need them but haven't asked us for them;
Prayers up for those that need them but don't know it yet;
Prayers up for those that pray alone in silence whose petitions are known only to God;
And bless all those that have sought Your wisdom, heard Your answers, and are trying to do Your will on this Earth!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 12, 2025 08:37 AM (hOUT3)

70 Horde mind!

Posted by: Grok at July 12, 2025 08:38 AM (i24o9)

71 Good morning, People of the Brew.

I'm not doing anything productive today, except maybe make another pot of coffee (Rootless Coffee's "Nostalgia", an Ethiopian Yirghacheffe, floral and somehow redolent of strawberrries).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 08:39 AM (kpS4V)

72 Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?

Mine involves finding myself at a large hospital, maybe a major medical center, maybe a large military hospital. I have been assigned to work there and am reporting for my first day of work. I then spend the entire dream wandering the place trying to find where I am supposed to report, up and down elevators, out behind the dumpsters, different floors etc..

This morning I was at Ft. Bragg (or maybe Ft. Hood) wearing BDUs and trying to find the ER, where I was scheduled to do a month-long rotation. Odd little detail, the charts were color coded to identify over-utilizers of the ER. They were only allowed four weekend visits per quarter.

Other times it has been Children's Hospital, or Charity Hospital in New Orleans, or Fitzsimons Army Med Center. Sometimes just Generic General Hoospital.

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:40 AM (poXs5)

73 Statistics show that substantially more household injuries are caused by dull sharp objects than by sharp sharp objects. Something about more effort exerted trying to cut with a dull knife making you prone to slip and accidentally stab yourself or a family member or household guest. I learned this in Boy Scouts.

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:11 AM (poXs5)
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My grandfather, who was skilled in carpentry and wood carving, always emphasized this. Use the right tool, and if it's a blade, keep it sharp. Not only will it cut easier, you will be more careful around a very sharp knife than a dull one.

He also emphasized cutting away rather than towards yourself, but for certain fine movements, it was inevitable, and so he made special equipment. One that i remember well is taking several thumbs out of leather gloves and layering protective tape on it, so he could cut towards his thumb without hurting himself. I thought it was silly - just a leather thumb - but it worked.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:40 AM (ZOv7s)

74 Good morning, People of the Brew.

I'm not doing anything productive today, except maybe make another pot of coffee (Rootless Coffee's "Nostalgia", an Ethiopian Yirghacheffe, floral and somehow redolent of strawberrries).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 08:39 AM (kpS4V)

I'm afraid that decades in the Army and the police department have killed my taste buds when it comes to coffee. I know good coffee when I taste it, but I don't seek it. I just settle for Folgers or Maxwell House.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:41 AM (pJWtt)

75 Other times it has been Children's Hospital, or Charity Hospital in New Orleans, or Fitzsimons Army Med Center. Sometimes just Generic General Hoospital.
Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:40 AM (poXs5)
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Yeah, I'll have dreams that I'm late to drill, can't find uniform parts, wander the base looking for the right room, but I'm pretty good a lucid dreaming so I often will say "Wait, I'm retired, screw this," and either wake up or just shift into a different dream.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:43 AM (ZOv7s)

76 "Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?"

Running from cubicle to cubicle, begging people to PLEASE just do it the way I very clearly instructed them.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:44 AM (TwZXH)

77 Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 12, 2025 08:44 AM (Rrx0z)

78 For the mackerel-snappers among us - check out this vid of Father Mark-Mary Ames and Sister Miriam. Absolutely inspirational:

https://t.ly/yi-Bk

Sister Miriam speaks about praying the rosary and some of the difficulties we all face when praying.

Brought this jaded, flawed man to tears. It's that good.

it's that good.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 08:44 AM (cYBz/)

79 Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?

I have a recurring dream that I realize I have an algebra test that day that I did not study for and I can't find the classroom. When I finally find it, it is up on the 2nd floor and someone has greased the stairs.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 08:44 AM (SfhV1)

80 Retired Buckeye Cop, years of corrosive Navy coffee and burnt office brew somehow couldn't kill my taste buds.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 08:45 AM (kpS4V)

81 'Not prepared for class' is a classic.

Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:46 AM (TwZXH)

82 Prayers up for those who are ailing;
God, grace all of us who are failing
And Morons who live
To run with a shiv
Lord, please prevent their impaling

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 12, 2025 08:47 AM (kOluj)

83 81 'Not prepared for class' is a classic.
Posted by: gp at July 12, 2025 08:46 AM (TwZXH)

"Oh, why are you here? The final exam was yesterday!"

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 12, 2025 08:48 AM (hOUT3)

84 Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?

Mine involves finding myself at a large hospital, ...
Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:40 AM (poXs5)

Back before I retired from the police department, I was having recurring dreams of fighting demons/orcs (?). The combat was in a Tolkien-ish environment with bows, swords, etc.

At the time, I was pretty burnt-out and suffering from PTSD. Within 6 months or so after retiring, those dreams stopped. My blood pressure also went back to normal.

Investigating almost 2 dozen homicides, plus accidental/natural deaths took its toll.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:49 AM (pJWtt)

85 My major recurring dream was breathing underwater.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 08:49 AM (RIvkX)

86 I'm afraid that decades in the Army and the police department have killed my taste buds when it comes to coffee. I know good coffee when I taste it, but I don't seek it. I just settle for Folgers or Maxwell House.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:41 AM (pJWtt)
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I don't actually like the taste of coffee. I remember the A&P grinders at checkout, and they smelled really good, but I've always hated the taste.

I've since gotten used to it, and drink a cup a day for its healthful properties, but it's always the cheap stuff because the elaborate stuff did nothing for me.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:50 AM (ZOv7s)

87 Like the late Lt. Col. Alexander Jefferson of the Tuskegee Airmen, I take coffee with my cream and sugar.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:51 AM (ZOv7s)

88 I don't have recuring theme dreams as such, but most dreams generally are anxiety inducing - but ultimately about minor troubles that somehow take on a larger meaning during the dream.

When I wake and think about them, I will realize the situation was unimportant or not dangerous at all but still, caused me to be worried.

I mean, how bad is a dream where one is picking up spilled nuts, bolts, nails, washers, screws and cotter pins and you keep dropping the just picked up item?

Worrying about worrying worries me.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 08:51 AM (cYBz/)

89 it's always the cheap stuff

The price of Folgers jumped 3 dollars at Costco last week. Nothing's cheap anymore.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 08:52 AM (SfhV1)

90 Any ad is better than the chattering dentures.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 08:52 AM (n4GiU)

91 AI Can't Pun for S**t - a limerick

I asked the computer at the AI lab
To write a limerick 'bout an accidental jab
It said "Gadzooks forevermore,
I've never done that before,
But I guess I can give it a stab!"

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:52 AM (poXs5)

92 Muldoon- my friends and I used to write limericks quite regularly in junior high study hall. You've inspired me to knock off 29 years of brain dust.

Also, around that same time, I would regularly dream that I had woken up, gone outside and done my chores on the farm before heading to school. Then I'd wake up and realize I still had to go do them... the Geneva convention should ban such forms of self-torture.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 12, 2025 08:53 AM (kOluj)

93 My major recurring dream was breathing underwater.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 08:49 AM (RIvkX)
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The oldest recurring dream I have, which I can pinpoint back to first grade - is flying. It's a windy, gusty day, and I stretch out my arms, angle my palms just so, and start flying around the neighborhood. I really enjoy that one, but there's always the hint of danger that I might lose lift.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:53 AM (ZOv7s)

94 I have a recurring dream that I realize I have an algebra test that day that I did not study for and I can't find the classroom. When I finally find it, it is up on the 2nd floor and someone has greased the stairs.

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That is really eerie. I have had that dream so many times.

The oddest part is, it's never just a replay of the same dream. The setting is always different. It's the THEME that is exactly the same every time.

The scenario must key into something deeply embedded in my limbic system.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 08:53 AM (dDmld)

95 I'm afraid that decades in the Army and the police department have killed my taste buds when it comes to coffee. I know good coffee when I taste it, but I don't seek it. I just settle for Folgers or Maxwell House.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:41 AM (pJWtt)
---
I don't actually like the taste of coffee. I remember the A&P grinders at checkout, and they smelled really good, but I've always hated the taste.

I've since gotten used to it, and drink a cup a day for its healthful properties, but it's always the cheap stuff because the elaborate stuff did nothing for me.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:50 AM (ZOv7s)

I can taste the difference. The best cup of coffee I've had was Kenyan Double-A. However, I don't doctor-up my coffee, just drink it black with maybe an ice cube so it doesn't scald.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:53 AM (pJWtt)

96 Mrs. F. says we can't afford Peet's anymore so now we are drinking Lavazza.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 08:53 AM (RIvkX)

97 Recurring dream, rushing around to make it to class and never managing to get there since I cannot find the classroom. Of course college is mumblety years behind me.
Second which I haven't had for a time. My only sibling appears at my front door and his death at age 27 was actually a mistake and he was alive all that time. He passed in 1976.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 12, 2025 08:54 AM (2NHgQ)

98 90 Any ad is better than the chattering dentures.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 08:52 AM (n4GiU)

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*ahem*

Posted by: Old Ladies Panties That Can Absorb A Quart Of Liquid at July 12, 2025 08:55 AM (dDmld)

99 My major recurring dream was breathing underwater.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

**********

That might be cool!

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:55 AM (poXs5)

100 "I have also prayed for the intentions, both stated and unstated, of members of the Horde."

"Prayers up for all the Horde's intentions. Those asked and unasked."

I dunno if we should be praying for the unstated intentions of this group of miscreants :-)

Back to the coffee.... Happy Saturday, everybody!

Posted by: PabloD at July 12, 2025 08:57 AM (oyCAU)

101 My only sibling appears at my front door and his death at age 27 was actually a mistake and he was alive all that time.

My brother died at age 27 also. When he appears in my dreams, it comforts me.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 08:57 AM (SfhV1)

102 Wolfus, I use Interstate Battery rebuilds, $69 with six month warrantee. I think my '99 Caravan, the van that will not die, is on its fifth.
I get three years plus out of them each time.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 08:57 AM (n4GiU)

103 Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?

Oh yeah.

I'm in a factory that varies in familiarity - sometimes I know its GE - and they give me a line and expect me to fix it. I don't want the job.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 12, 2025 08:58 AM (/+sK9)

104 > "Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?"
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I have two recurring dreams;

I'm either in a building or a city, trying to return to, "a starting point" or the exit. Keep going in weird circles and eventually wake up.

In the other one, I'm driving, usually on a highway and there's a hill I go up and over and the car leaves the ground and goes flying. Sometimes I wake up, sometime the car lands on the ground I keep going.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 08:59 AM (Q4IgG)

105 Investigating almost 2 dozen homicides, plus accidental/natural deaths took its toll.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

*********

I can see how that could provoke some vivid dreams. Oddly, I never have imagery of patients who have died or specific incidents. Maybe mine are a subconscious quest for a restart or a do-over...?

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:59 AM (poXs5)

106 I have a recurring dream that I realize I have an algebra test that day ... and I can't find the classroom. ...
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 08:44 AM (SfhV1)

I had something similar happen to me in real life when I was getting my Mechanical Engineering degree. I was taking Vibrations (no, not that kind, you perverts) and the classroom had been converted into an office in the days between the last day of class and the final exam. Doctor "S" was P!SSED! Eves-dropping on his phone call to the University Admin was pretty amusing.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:59 AM (pJWtt)

107 grammie. My comfort comes from my brother's only child, he is a fine man who is a credit to his dad.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 12, 2025 09:00 AM (2NHgQ)

108 My brother died at age 27 also. When he appears in my dreams, it comforts me.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 08:57 AM (SfhV1)
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The blessing of memory.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 09:02 AM (RIvkX)

109 Recurring dreams often involve lack of pants in public locations. This is normal, right?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2025 09:03 AM (i5Vkf)

110 Horde mind!

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People keep saying that like it's a good thing.

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 09:05 AM (poXs5)

111 My brother died at age 27 also. When he appears in my dreams, it comforts me.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 08:57 AM (SfhV1)
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The blessing of memory.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 09:02 AM (RIvkX)
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I dream about my grandparents from time to time. I'm at a family reunion and everything is like it was 20+ years ago, and they're asking me about life and what's going on, and then as I'm telling them I realize that theyr'e dead, but they just say "Keep going," and so I do. I'm not entirely convinced those are dreams.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:05 AM (ZOv7s)

112 July 14...Bastille Day....Frogs don't know it but they are still in prison. Just country wide right now due to EU and European socialism (and immigration)

Posted by: Jeff Carter (@pointsnfigures1) at July 12, 2025 09:05 AM (8qMs2)

113 I keep dreaming that I'm at the office and all my coworkers are reminding me there's a new cover sheet for the TPS reports.

Posted by: Peter Gibbons at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (XQo4F)

114 Good morning all.
At least trying for a good morning. Had a lousy week. I need a tooth out. Normally not a big deal but with upcoming hip surgery it could become one. Spent 3 hrs at the Oral Surgeon and couldn't get it out because never got numb. Have to take antibiotics for a week and try again. I feel like crap. No appetite. Can't seem to get into a book. Swam yesterday and going to go again today to see if I can get my endorphins up. 39 days til hip surgery.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (t/2Uw)

115 109 Recurring dreams often involve lack of pants in public locations. This is normal, right?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2025 09:03 AM (i5Vkf)
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Is the Book Thread considered a public space? Then sure.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (kpS4V)

116 Investigating almost 2 dozen homicides, plus accidental/natural deaths took its toll.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

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I can see how that could provoke some vivid dreams. Oddly, I never have imagery of patients who have died or specific incidents. Maybe mine are a subconscious quest for a restart or a do-over...?
Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:59 AM (poXs5)

I suppose the difference is the violence. I've seen some pretty gruesome stuff that I don't really want to describe. I don't enjoy horror movies of the torture-porn variety: I've seen it for real and don't want to experience it again.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (pJWtt)

117 The most fully read AOS thread. Prayers sent for everyone above as well as those suffering silently.

I want to thank all of you for your thoughts and prayers for me. The house officially became mine June 30th ending 6 months of uncertainty since Mom passed.

I took a week off and Monday my friend took me to a Christian trailer park to his trailer. It was my first time out of the house overnight in 9.9 years. It was very nice there. My friend would leave the trailer unlocked even with his laptop there.

I'm stronger. I've been watching a lot of videos about surrendering to God and prayer. And this morning I watched a great video about processing emotions differently. I choose to laugh at all my past traumas to rewire my brain. Even the last 6 months when I lost so much.

I selfishly forgive my brother for myself. I'll never talk to him or his family again since I know what kind of people they are, but I forgive them.

Thank you all.

Prayers too for everyone in Texas and elsewhere.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (jvJvP)

118 I'm not entirely convinced those are dreams.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:05 AM (ZOv7s)

Same here.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (SfhV1)

119 I was taking Vibrations (no, not that kind, you perverts)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 08:59 AM

This kind?

https://tinyurl.com/2kmcvkb9

(grammie will enjoy this)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 12, 2025 09:08 AM (0sNs1)

120 Hi Muldoon. As a retired police officer and an RN for over forty years (I worked both at the same time. Working in the ER on my days off from the PD.) I have those same types of dreams. I wander around the hospital looking for where I should be and no one helps. Or I am in a gunfight and my firearm doesn’t work or the round comes out of the barrel in slow motion. Yes, I have those crazy dreams too.

Posted by: RetSgtRN at July 12, 2025 09:09 AM (9B/kK)

121
Today I woke up late, for me. Somehow I feel like somebody has stolen part of my day and I'll never catch up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:35 AM (omVj0)

Your cats don't go into your room as soon as the sun rises to wake you up? Snowflake has been doing that to me. She jumps on the bed and then jumps on me until I feed her.

I'm choosing to see this as a blessing....

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 09:10 AM (jvJvP)

122 Grammie winger, I used to have a recurring dream that I was in French class for a test and I hadn't studied. However, back in the day, when I was taking French, that was usually true.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 09:10 AM (t/2Uw)

123
Thank you all.

Prayers too for everyone in Texas and elsewhere.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (jvJvP)
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Great news! God be praised!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:11 AM (ZOv7s)

124 "Can't stop me now..."

Posted by: pookysgirl, with a bit of Queen to start the morning at July 12, 2025 09:11 AM (PPB1b)

125 (grammie will enjoy this)

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 12, 2025 09:08 AM (0sNs1)

Love it! Love the hairstyle of the girl as well!

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:11 AM (SfhV1)

126 Recurring dreams often involve lack of pants in public locations. This is normal, right?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2025 09:03 AM (i5Vkf)
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Is the Book Thread considered a public space? Then sure.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM

Ahem. In your case, it's not a dream.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at July 12, 2025 09:13 AM (0sNs1)

127 99 My major recurring dream was breathing underwater.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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That might be cool!
Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:55 AM (poXs5)

That means your secret inner superhero is Aquaman.
I’m sorry.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:13 AM (Hlfhp)

128 Susie Wiles brings calm to Trump admin -- helping the president rack up wins

When was the last time you saw her name in the media? Is it possible that the grownups are now in charge? [CBD]

Susie Wiles is trending this morning on X. People pointing out that she and AG Pam Bondi are long-time close allies. And that, because of that, there is no chance President Trump will get rid of Bondi.

X: https://bit.ly/4kDomf7

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 12, 2025 09:13 AM (P5BPp)

129 Susie Wiles is trending this morning on X. People pointing out that she and AG Pam Bondi are long-time close allies. And that, because of that, there is no chance President Trump will get rid of Bondi.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 12, 2025 09:13 AM (P5BPp)
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Can we cancel the MAGA soap opera already? The whole bromance/breakup with Elon and The Donald, and now Kash/Bognino/Bondi cat fight over who gets to sit at which lunch table and go to the prom with Trump.

Retarded. Drama for bored middle aged men.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)

130 Grammie winger, I used to have a recurring dream that I was in French class for a test and I hadn't studied. However, back in the day, when I was taking French, that was usually true.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 09:10 AM (t/2Uw)

That made me smile, Sharon.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:15 AM (SfhV1)

131 Going in to take an exam, and realizing I hadn't attended any classes the entire semester

Leaving the house buck naked

And one non-recurring from early days of parenting - changing baby's diaper while baby was on bed. Turned my head briefly. Then I couldn't find the baby, and was carefully searching the bedding looking for a microscopic kiddo.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 12, 2025 09:16 AM (8AONa)

132 I'm not entirely convinced those are dreams.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:05 AM (ZOv7s)

Same here.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:06 AM (SfhV1)

The supernatural exists.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 09:16 AM (pJWtt)

133 My parents had to beg me to come out of the water. We had to beg Boy F. to come out of the water. From generation to generation...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 09:18 AM (RIvkX)

134 Is this about us?

Posted by: Bored middle aged men at July 12, 2025 09:19 AM (XQo4F)

135 Step by step, Stateless

God bless you

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 12, 2025 09:19 AM (8AONa)

136 Off to walk the hell-hound before it warms up. We're expecting triple digits today and tomorrow. Yeesh.... I'd move to Antarctica if it wasn't for those filthy penguins.

Be well, Horde.

Posted by: PabloD at July 12, 2025 09:20 AM (o2Win)

137 Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?

Posted by: muldoon at July 12, 2025 08:40 AM

I have had two different themed recurring dreams for years now.

First theme is of being back in either high school (graduated 1994) or college ('99) and finding out that I am late for an exam. Or finding out I have an exam, but for some reason did not go to class in the weeks leading up to the exam, so I have no idea what is on it. Another where I need to get to class, but I don't know where the class is and I can't find my class schedule. Another where it is 3 weeks into the semester and I find out I have a class I didn't know about and I am embarrassed thinking about walking into class for the first time during week 3.

Second themed recurring dream/nightmare is numerous, various ways of my Jeep being stolen. Have had this numerous times over the past few years. Where I walk out of my childhood home or my current home or out of a store into a parking lot and I realize that I can't find my Jeep, because it's been stolen. Woke up numerous times worried it was real.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 12, 2025 09:22 AM (P5BPp)

138 We're just thrilled when it gets all the way up to DOUBLE digits.

Posted by: Those filthy penguins at July 12, 2025 09:22 AM (XQo4F)

139 Retarded. Drama for bored middle aged men.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)
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This is why I watch Real Housewives of Miami. That Larsa is such a b*tch.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 09:22 AM (RIvkX)

140 I feel very thankful though… usually anyone with an artificial knee is told “don’t run!!” But I’ve been running with it for a few years now and it’s fine… not as good as the original equipment though!

Our Creator is unmatched but the equipment wears out in this imperfect world
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2025 08:29 AM (i5Vkf)

Good for you for running!

I used to run 2 to 3 hours about 3 times a week. When I started back up my knees hurt which freaked me out.

There was no running during all my drama and my knees are fine now. So I guess I'll start up again and be less worried. During all my runs, I'd thank God for protecting my cartilage andkeeping me healthy.

'Desert Runners' was a fantastic documentary about 4 peopke doing 250 mile runs. They did it in 4 deserts in a year. Including Antarctica....technically a desert.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 09:23 AM (jvJvP)

141 At one point in my life, I was running a non profit that had community residences and a sheltered workshop. I had a recurring dream that I had been captured and was being held somewhere in a cave, or prison with a lot of other people. I was always trying to plan an escape because all these people were relying on me. It always seemed pretty obvious what the dream was about .
I got pregnant and quit and never went back into human services and never had the dream again.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 09:23 AM (t/2Uw)

142 The supernatural exists.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 09:16 AM (pJWtt)
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Using spiritual discernment, I do feel sadness at the loss, but really enjoy talking with them. So it does bring me comfort and assure me that we will meet again, which is why I think it more than just my synapses going off.

In the most recent one - right after my family reunion last week - I talked to my grandfather and (after realizing he was dead) I remarked on it, and said how are YOU doing? What's it like?

He gave me a little smile and said "Fine, fine. You'll find out when it's time. Tell me more!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:23 AM (ZOv7s)

143 I see Pope Bob is a global warming alarmist just like his predecessor, Pope Frank.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 12, 2025 09:24 AM (Y1sOo)

144 The exam prep dream is so common . . . I have to wonder if it's more common for people who went to college?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 12, 2025 09:24 AM (8AONa)

145 Does anybody have recurring dreams that are the same in overall theme while differing in certain derails?

I had a recurring dream for years and years. At least once a month. I'm back in college (the location differs), it's the end of the semester and I realize there's a class I flat out forgot to attend.

The last time I had it, in the dream I thought "Wait a minute. I already graduated and have that degree. Wait a minute. I'm retired and have no need for this class".

I haven't had that dream since.

Posted by: Blutarski, Gradually then Suddenly at July 12, 2025 09:26 AM (CLFO/)

146 Recurring dreams often involve lack of pants in public locations. This is normal, right?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2025 09:03
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Yep. Or worse. Totally naked in line at movie theatre.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 12, 2025 09:29 AM (Rrx0z)

147 I have this dream where every day I wake up and it's Groundhog Day.

Posted by: Phil Connors at July 12, 2025 09:29 AM (XQo4F)

148 I see Pope Bob is a global warming alarmist just like his predecessor, Pope Frank.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 12, 2025 09:24 AM (Y1sOo)
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Why do you call Pope Leo "Pope Bob" but not call Pope Francis "Pope Jorge?"

I mean, if you're going to be an irreverent ass, at least be consistent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:29 AM (ZOv7s)

149 The oldest recurring dream I have, which I can pinpoint back to first grade - is flying. It's a windy, gusty day, and I stretch out my arms, angle my palms just so, and start flying around the neighborhood. I really enjoy that one, but there's always the hint of danger that I might lose lift.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 08:53 AM

I have had a recurring flying dream as well. I remember it feeling quite amazing. Felt like I was gliding and had full control of how high I wanted to go and how far I could glide. I remember having it a few times, but it was years ago when I was much younger.

Personal Growth and Empowerment:
It can indicate a sense of newfound confidence, competence, and the ability to rise above challenges.

Spiritual Growth:
Some interpretations suggest flying dreams reflect a connection to higher consciousness or a spiritual journey.

Control and Perspective:
Feeling weightless and in control of your flight can signify a sense of mastery over your life and the ability to view situations from a different vantage point.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 12, 2025 09:30 AM (P5BPp)

150 Yep. Or worse. Totally naked in line at movie theatre.

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Really? What's playing?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 12, 2025 09:32 AM (dDmld)

151 I don't think Pope Frank had his own tee shirt. Could be wrong.

https://tinyurl.com/59ud2p8r

Posted by: one hour sober at July 12, 2025 09:33 AM (Y1sOo)

152 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:11 AM (ZOv7s)

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 12, 2025 09:19 AM (8AONa)

Thank you both.
Thank you all.

Time to finish reclaiming the house. There were tons of renovations and since I didn't know what was going to happen, I just kept the upstairs most livable.

Even though I lived here taking care of Mom, I now need to make the place my own. I still have some of her stuff to go through. And the basement. Uuuuugggghhhh.

Everyone have a happy week or find some happiness somehow.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 09:34 AM (jvJvP)

153 Yep. Or worse. Totally naked in line at movie theatre.
Posted by: olddog

That bothers you?

Oh! I mean, that's terrible.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 09:35 AM (cYBz/)

154 It's like a nude beach. Sounds good until you get there.

Posted by: Old Dennis Miller line at July 12, 2025 09:36 AM (XQo4F)

155 The supernatural exists.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 09:16 AM (pJWtt)
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Using spiritual discernment, I do feel sadness at the loss, but really enjoy talking with them. ...which is why I think it more than just my synapses going off.
...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:23 AM (ZOv7s)

I'm certain that my mother interceded for me 3 days after she died. I got an email out of the blue from my former university's Career Services several years after I had graduated.

The person writing the email informed me that she had replaced the previous person in the office [from my one meeting I knew that previous person was useless] and had been cleaning out the office and found my resume'. She was forwarding me information on a job opportunity that she thought might be interesting. I applied and subsequently got the job (it's a very niche engineering discipline).

My boss later said, "We didn't know it at the time, but you were exactly the person we had been looking for."
Fast forward almost 11 years and its the best job I've ever had.

A strange chain of events.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 09:36 AM (pJWtt)

156 Last week was the Feast Day of the Chinese Martyrs (it has various other names).

You've probably heard of the Boxer Rebellion and the siege of the Legation Quarter in Peking (made into a movie starring Charleton Heston), but did you know that the Northern Cathedral in Peking was also placed under siege by the boxers.

Bishop Alfonse Favier offered sanctuary to more than 3,500 Chinese Christians and sent an appeal to the Legation Quarter for aid. In response 43 French and Italian sailors volunteered to help defend the cathedral - which actually held out for 57 days before being relieved.

In one instance, a Boxer charge was stopped dead in its tracks by two volleys from the sailors, who killed 43 Boxers instantly out of 58 shots fired.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

157 Another recurring themed dream I have is where my brain tells me I cannot wake up until I figure out a problem I am trying to solve in my dream.

First time I had it was about 10 years ago and it was a design issue that I was struggling with at work. I was working on it in my dream and I was certain that if I didn't figure it out, I couldn't wake up.

Something finally clicked and I realized, wait, I don't need to solve this to wake up, I can just wake up and... I woke up.

Other dreams like that where I felt stuck in the dream unless I completed something and thankfully found a way to wake up even though I was unable to complete the task in the dream.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 12, 2025 09:37 AM (P5BPp)

158 I have a recurring dream about showing up for something completely unprepared. For years I was a student showing up for an exam--decades after I'd actually BEEN a student. Then it was finally showing up to teach a class for which I was unprepared. (I taught for 24 years but have been retired for quite some time.)

I have a similar line of dreams where I am trying to get somewhere familiar but the streets, or terrain, or whatever keep changing, keeping me lost and frustrated.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at July 12, 2025 09:38 AM (FEVMW)

159 Went for a walk by the local canal . I saw sliders ( the turtles, not the burgers or sandwiches of some sort) some purple plant that looked like clover but isn't , some star shaped white flower the size of a thumbnail and with a yellow center and some tiny insect smaller than the top of a nail and which was bright blue. Now I am sitting outside a store while the guys are shopping for sporting goods inside and there are some lillies with read outside and yellow inside. I am thankful to God that I can see these lovely things.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 09:38 AM (2Gpua)

160 If not for the Perfessor's exclusionary, draconian, rule, the Sunday Book Thread could be the most popular place on the entire internets. I refuse to knuckle under!

Posted by: Fruit of the Loom at July 12, 2025 09:39 AM (G5+As)

161 Add me to the flying dreams list.

Also, I had weird dreams that I would be at the top of a huge flight of stairs but standing up, I would slide down the stairs. Don't know what that meant.

Okay, food prep since I'm eating again, some trimming, cleaning the car and the garage. That's the plan....

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 09:39 AM (jvJvP)

162 Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:37 AM (ZOv7s)

I think I've seen that movie with Charlton Heston. But, don't remember who else was in it.

Posted by: dantesed at July 12, 2025 09:40 AM (Oy/m2)

163 How to influence your own dreams.

https://youtu.be/CiuMRq32JBk

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025 09:41 AM (XQo4F)

164 Stateless, very glad to read your update, but a tad confused on the percentages. 06% of 20%? It sounds like you are doing way better than 06%, and I look forward to seeing a number in the near future closer to 20%

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at July 12, 2025 09:43 AM (cCn4/)

165 I think I've seen that movie with Charlton Heston. But, don't remember who else was in it.
Posted by: dantesed at July 12, 2025 09:40 AM (Oy/m2)
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David Niven and Ava Gardner as "the baroness."

An uneven film, and it takes the usual liberty with reality. The "International Gun" did not blow up, but served throughout the siege. Odd that they did that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)

166 I would like to ask prayers for healing for E-who had been the nurse at home for our 98 year old former organist . E had been having intestinal digestive issues for some time but it's not cancer.
Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 09:44 AM (SZhls)

167 >>>How to influence your own dreams.

I didn’t watch the video. It’s called lucid dreaming and it’s something experts say can be a developed skill to control the narrative of one’s dreams.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 12, 2025 09:46 AM (Y1sOo)

168 Is CBD still in France? He would love this! "All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France, a court ruled on Friday."

Posted by: runner at July 12, 2025 09:47 AM (g47mK)

169 I'm hardly ever in my dreams--I dream stories. Example: a basketball player named Rameses Mallaby is at a some kind of psychiatric facility to deal with his anger issues, where he meets and falls in love with Katerina van der Lynn, a former child prodigy pianist, there for killing her abusive father.

Yup, dream complete with names and histories. I felt as though I were eavesdropping.

Posted by: Wenda at July 12, 2025 09:48 AM (8p/ok)

170 The very worst dream I ever had was that I was in a vicious firefight (but oddly, that part wasn't scary) and we got hit by something big - a mortar or grenade, and I lost both legs. I startled awake, sort of, I was still half asleep, and tried to leap out of bed. I didn't realize it but I was in the top bunk, my legs had become entangled in the sheets and while jumping out, got hung up upside down and was kicking and flopping about.

Mom had heard me and stood in the doorway, afraid to come in. That one took awhile to settle down from.

I do wonder though, what came first? Did my legs fall asleep after being twisted up in the sheets and THEN I constructed the dream to comport with the state of my legs? Dunno.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 12, 2025 09:48 AM (cYBz/)

171 >>> 168 Is CBD still in France? He would love this! "All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France, a court ruled on Friday."

Posted by: runner at July 12, 2025 09:47 AM (g47mK)

Oh sure, *that* will work out just great.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 12, 2025 09:48 AM (ULPxl)

172 "All Palestinians living in the Gaza Strip will be eligible for the first time to apply for asylum in France, a court ruled on Friday."
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I spotted the catch: What is a "Palestinian"?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 12, 2025 09:49 AM (/2jl7)

173 Now we shall see how fast France closes its borders.

Posted by: runner at July 12, 2025 09:50 AM (g47mK)

174 Prayers for all.

Posted by: Mick at July 12, 2025 09:50 AM (HFx9z)

175 This may be an older story (June 2023), but I just saw it, and it's hilarious.

After Hamtramck, Michigan, known as the only American city with an all-Muslim city council and mayor, voted to NOT display the Pride flag on city buildings, former Mayor Pro Tem Catrina Stackpoole (a Lefty lesbian) said:

"We welcomed you," she told the city council in a public meeting. "We created nonprofits to help feed, clothe, and find housing. We did everything we could to make your transition here easier, and this is how you repay us? By stabbing us in the back?"

I saw it on Twitter, and laughed hard because I assumed it was about the downfall of England. Then, I saw it was a Michigan town...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 12, 2025 09:51 AM (JCZqz)

176 I wanted to lay out and work on my tan today, but the sun has not been cooperating. There's nothing worse than a pasty Skandi.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:51 AM (SfhV1)

177 I spotted the catch: What is a "Palestinian"?

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Anthropologists are still working on it, but preliminary findings point to "people made up by the USSR to splinter the West".

Posted by: runner at July 12, 2025 09:52 AM (g47mK)

178 An uneven film, and it takes the usual liberty with reality. The "International Gun" did not blow up, but served throughout the siege. Odd that they did that.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:43 AM (ZOv7s)

55 days at Peking, Heston has a minor role, was supposed to be a blockbuster movie but never quite got there. The Sand Pebbles with Steve McQueen is better on the topic, I think.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:52 AM (Hlfhp)

179 Will they put the Palestinians in the French Riviera??

Posted by: dantesed at July 12, 2025 09:53 AM (Oy/m2)

180 "Furious Newsome says he won't stand silently by while Trump fixes California"
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heh. well done, Bee.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 12, 2025 09:53 AM (/2jl7)

181 good morning MisHum, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 12, 2025 09:53 AM (T+z9y)

182 Can we cancel the MAGA soap opera already? The whole bromance/breakup with Elon and The Donald, and now Kash/Bognino/Bondi cat fight over who gets to sit at which lunch table and go to the prom with Trump.

Retarded. Drama for bored middle aged men.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)

AMEN!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 09:54 AM (g8Ew8)

183 I hope Ciampino wrote down some of his unique experiences growing up in Africa.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:54 AM (omVj0)

He did not. We begged him for years to write a book, he just didn't take the time.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 09:55 AM (sPQoU)

184 I wanted to lay out and work on my tan today, but the sun has not been cooperating. There's nothing worse than a pasty Skandi.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:51 AM (SfhV1)
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In defense of our forebears, my theory of Viking history is they were just in search of better weather, but my kids history teachers never bought it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 12, 2025 09:56 AM (/2jl7)

185 There's nothing worse than a pasty Skandi.
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:51 AM

A Skandi well-rubbed with Surströmming?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 12, 2025 09:58 AM (0sNs1)

186
"We did everything we could to make your transition here easier, and this is how you repay us? By stabbing us in the back?"

________

"We will astonish the world with our ingratitude." - Count Camillo Cavour

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 09:59 AM (HZi96)

187 I have also had good themed recurring dreams. Granted, they were good at the time I had them. Since they never came true, it's tough to look back at them now with the same good feelings.

But I first had recurring dreams about my first college (and first ever) girlfriend. I had them so many times in the year after we broke up and remembered them so vividly, I decided to write about them to see if I could get them to stop.

Dreaming of You (1999): https://bit.ly/3U8bHWN

Over the years, I've also had vivid dreams about a potential love or my "dream" girl that I couldn't stop thinking about after waking. It was also so disappointing waking from them. Was like the scene towards the end of "Somewhere in Time" when Christopher Reeve gets sent back in time after seeing the penny from his own time and he's desperately grasping to hang on to the dream. That's how I felt after waking up.

Only In My Dreams (2007): https://bit.ly/4lWkffz

LOST In a Dream of You (2011): https://bit.ly/4nPTsTS

It Was Only Just a Dream (2019): https://bit.ly/4kz78Q4

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 12, 2025 09:59 AM (P5BPp)

188 Did Ciampino's daughters reach their Go Fund Me goal for his cremation?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at July 12, 2025 08:08 AM (2NHgQ)

We have not reached our goal yet. Thanks for asking. Also, thank you everyone for the prayers.

[Link to Ciampino's fund: https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV]

Posted by: Joyenz at July 12, 2025 09:59 AM (sPQoU)

189 I spotted the catch: What is a "Palestinian"?
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A Jordanian. Jordanians are the Untouchables of the Kingdom of the Sand. No Arab nation wants them, so they are useful idiots for the destruction of Israel.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at July 12, 2025 09:59 AM (lPeS+)

190 my theory of Viking history is they were just in search of better weather,

Yeah, but then the Swedes came over and settled in Minnesota. What's that all about?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:59 AM (SfhV1)

191 There's nothing worse than a pasty Skandi.
Posted by: grammie winger

We are doing our best to change that, inshallah!

Posted by: Muhammed Muhammad Muhammad, recent Sweedish Immigrant at July 12, 2025 10:00 AM (JCZqz)

192
Speaking of astonishing, I will actually be meeting a fellow Hordian for lunch today.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 10:00 AM (HZi96)

193 55 days at Peking, Heston has a minor role, was supposed to be a blockbuster movie but never quite got there. The Sand Pebbles with Steve McQueen is better on the topic, I think.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 09:52 AM (Hlfhp)
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They are about completely different events. "55 Days in Peking" takes place in 1900. "The Sand Pebbles" was in the 1920s, when the Nationalist movement started to build.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:00 AM (ZOv7s)

194 Mornin' Horde, if anybody could lift a prayer for my mother it would be most appreciated. Still recovering from a UTI plus 3 falls within a couple days. No falls since early Tuesday morning. During the day, there is slight improvement in her ability to feed herself or cooperate in transferring from bed to wheelchair to toilet and such. She is also making the occasional smartass remark, which is a good thing.

When she starts sundowning though, she can't get comfortable in any position until she finally conks out. As the day goes on she becomes a dead weight when we have to lift her - clings to whatever she can hold in abject fear. She only weighs about 105-110 but it is HARD to lift/move someone who is frozen in fear. Yesterday evening she was barely speaking. She's eating very little. The one consistent positive is she is drinking a lot of fluids, and we know her kidneys are working. We also got her a hospital bed.

If she cannot regain a little more mobility (doesn't have to be able to walk, but to transfer and get around without being lifted every time) and consistently feed herself, she won't be able to stay at assisted living.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2025 10:00 AM (DnMuk)

195 Posted by: runner at July 12, 2025 09:47 AM (g47mK)

I'll be long gone by the time those savages arrive in France.

Which, by the way, has plenty of muslim savages already!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Conspiracy Theorist at July 12, 2025 10:01 AM (d3xAd)

196 'Desert Runners' was a fantastic documentary about 4 peopke doing 250 mile runs. They did it in 4 deserts in a year. Including Antarctica....technically a desert.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 06% towards 20% getting better at July 12, 2025 09:23 AM (jvJvP)

I believe I’ve watched that… those people are nuts! I’ve run marathons but 26.2 miles is my limit

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 12, 2025 10:01 AM (nrfI8)

197 Repost from earlier thread because I thought it was cute funny , and Lord, knows, this site could sometimes use some more laughs: Man talks about two things to worry about- wisdom learned from his grandma . Scroll down past description to video. "Faithpot" site:

https://tinyurl.com/2vzvbp7k

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:02 AM (SZhls)

198 Anyone interested in more Chinese history, book available, etc & etc.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:02 AM (ZOv7s)

199 prayers for all.

Will miss Jay. It was nice to know there was someone that thought like that in the world.

Posted by: Smellslikevictory at July 12, 2025 10:03 AM (jPdyB)

200 Which, by the way, has plenty of muslim savages already!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Conspiracy Theorist at July 12, 2025 10:01 AM (d3xAd)
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And an increasingly Catholic Army officer corps. Could be fun.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:03 AM (ZOv7s)

201 Yeah, but then the Swedes came over and settled in Minnesota. What's that all about?
Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 09:59 AM (SfhV1)
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They heard the Norwegians were next door in North Dakota, so being close by seemed familiar. Plus, you have to stop somewhere on your way to Arizona.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 12, 2025 10:04 AM (CtvVQ)

202 I selfishly forgive my brother for myself. I'll never talk to him or his family again since I know what kind of people they are, but I forgive them.

Not selfish. It's how you start letting go of anger and resentment, and sorting things out for the perspective you'll gain from it.

{{{Stateless}}}

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 12, 2025 10:04 AM (R3yzU)

203 Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2025 10:00 AM (DnMuk)

It sounds very hard for your family. I will pray for her and for all of you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:04 AM (SZhls)

204 What have you got against Spooner? You from Trego?

Posted by: Kafiroon at July 12, 2025 10:06 AM (c7wPu)

205 I see Pope Bob is a global warming alarmist just like his predecessor, Pope Frank.

Wake me up when Bob raises a few divisions.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 12, 2025 10:07 AM (/+sK9)

206 I'm either blessed or cursed with only being able to remember snippets of dreams and that irregularly, almost never the entire dream. What I do remember is extremely vivid. Just never very long.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 12, 2025 10:09 AM (hKoQL)

207 I saw the village of Dolton, a Chicago suburb, purchased the home where the Pope grew up. I think it went for around 300,000.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 10:10 AM (SfhV1)

208 https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV

Ciampino z"l

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 10:10 AM (RIvkX)

209 Fen, many thanks for your prayers!

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2025 10:10 AM (DnMuk)

210 And my son is playing classical music to accompany the feeding of the neutered and spayed cats in the back of the house in the neighborhood. It sounds nice. There are beautiful purple and pink Rose of Sharon plants outside.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:11 AM (SZhls)

211 Why do women go to barber shops? I live in a small community where women have over a hundred beauty shops, yet there they are in the barber shop. They used to be a mans domain, not anymore. So we sit in line while these women tell the barbers, they need this done and that done and I'm thinking, GO TO A DAMN BEAUTY SHOP!

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 10:12 AM (ilX37)

212 Voting on cheap Coffee? Lavazza is good, 8 O'Clock is better!

Posted by: catman at July 12, 2025 10:13 AM (3Kepb)

213 Roses of Sharon and the butterfly bush in full bloom. A little sun to illuminate this would be nice.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 10:13 AM (n4GiU)

214 I’m getting tired of the “seven times stronger than viagra” lady in the (sometimes torn) knit top. She is a perfect example of an impending “first rule” violation.

Posted by: Fenderbender at July 12, 2025 10:14 AM (1FEc1)

215 Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2025 10:10 AM (DnMuk)

No need to thank me, screaming in digital I'm glad to pray . My mother was gone by the time she was 59, and didn't have dementia, but I have had dear folks in the congregation in assisted living or at home and their care has been quite challenging ,so prayers for strength for you as well and all here caring for family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:16 AM (SZhls)

216 I’m getting tired of the “seven times stronger than viagra” lady in the (sometimes torn) knit top. She is a perfect example of an impending “first rule” violation.
Posted by: Fenderbender at July 12, 2025 10:14 AM (1FEc1)
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How do you quantify that? I thought if your erection lasts more than four hours you need to see a doctor, so this drug will get you to 28 hours? How is that a good thing?

Or maybe it raises your muzzle velocity to 2,800 fps, enabling bukakke at ranges up to 300 yards.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:18 AM (ZOv7s)

217 SiD your mom should be evaluated for hospice, then she can stay. (Not sure what the exact rules are in your jurisdiction...)

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 10:19 AM (RIvkX)

218 The discharge of firearms is banned in my burg, but I guess that drug would allow me to plink squirrels though fapping.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:19 AM (ZOv7s)

219 WARNING: Use only with 3A certified condoms or your partner may be injured.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:20 AM (ZOv7s)

220 {{{SiD}}}
❤️❤️❤️

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 12, 2025 10:21 AM (t/2Uw)

221 Horrible recurring dream: I'm being chased and to get away I crawl into a ditch, which becomes a tunnel, which collapses. I'm buried in rubble and cannot move, except for one finger. I panic, frantically moving my finger, only to suddenly awake, sweating and gasping for breath.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 12, 2025 10:21 AM (TaMP4)

222 San Franpsycho, she's already on hospice.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2025 10:21 AM (DnMuk)

223
A grandson was born last night, over the moon happy.

Posted by: Auspex at July 12, 2025 10:24 AM (TUCTx)

224 A grandson was born last night, over the moon happy.
Posted by: Auspex at July 12, 2025 10:24 AM (TUCTx)
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Congratulations! Grandkids are the payoff for having kids.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:25 AM (ZOv7s)

225 A grandson was born last night, over the moon happy.

Posted by: Auspex at July 12, 2025 10:24 AM (TUCTx)

How wonderful! Sign him up for Little League.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 12, 2025 10:26 AM (SfhV1)

226 >>>I’m getting tired of the “seven times stronger than viagra” lady in the (sometimes torn) knit top. She is a perfect example of an impending “first rule” violation.

Download Brave
Open AoSHQ
And (Pope) Bob’s your uncle

Posted by: one hour sober at July 12, 2025 10:26 AM (Y1sOo)

227 Posted by: Auspex at July 12, 2025 10:24 AM (TUCTx)

Congratulations ! And God bless the new baby boy and all family.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:28 AM (2GCMq)

228 Horrible recurring dream: I'm being chased and to get away I crawl into a ditch, which becomes a tunnel, which collapses. I'm buried in rubble and cannot move, except for one finger. I panic, frantically moving my finger, only to suddenly awake, sweating and gasping for breath.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 12, 2025 10:21 AM (TaMP4)

Sleep apnea would cause that. It will also cause dying. You need to see a doc.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 10:30 AM (g8Ew8)

229 Today is the 12th of July which is celebrated by dirty proddies of the Orange Order in Northern Ireland with parades commemorating the Battle of the Boyne.

I once worked with a guy who owned exactly one orange shirt which he wore every St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, he was kind of an ass.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2025 10:31 AM (/y8xj)

230 Man with a lawn hose and some cute kids:

https://tinyurl.com/49zjj6b4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:33 AM (2GCMq)

231 Congratulations, Auspex!! Grandkids are awesome.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at July 12, 2025 10:33 AM (kOluj)

232 This thread is dying quickly.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 10:35 AM (g8Ew8)

233 FYI - Anyone who likes movies, go watch Superman. The most Kansas/farm boy values version of the hero ever done, one who completely assimilates to America and rejects his former homeland DURING the movie. I know why Gunn made his comments this week - he was afraid he'd lose the left with this movie.

It is the best Superman movie I've ever seen - far and away better that 1978 - and Lex is a revelation in this (he's also the best ever done)...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 10:38 AM (tOcjL)

234 I'm not dead yet!

Posted by: The Thread at July 12, 2025 10:39 AM (XQo4F)

235
The thread may be dyeing quickly, but not so once it is woven into cloth.

Such a mordant crowd here!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 10:39 AM (Tv15w)

236 I keep going to the front door. There's a bird, a starling I think, that keeps getting into the cat food. He's persistent and not afraid of me.

Or the cats.

The lesson here escapes me.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 12, 2025 08:03 AM

The bird is symbolic of today's leftist street rabble, who haven't yet realized that they're in the FO phase. Soon...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 12, 2025 10:40 AM (Wnv9h)

237 You aren't really living if you don't spill some coffee from time to time.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 12, 2025 10:40 AM (KitM9)

238 I once worked with a guy who owned exactly one orange shirt which he wore every St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, he was kind of an ass.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 12, 2025 10:31 AM (/y8xj)
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I knew a guy like that as well. Total jerk.

It's also a bit funny how their precious C of E is now completely gay.

And hosting Catholic Mass in their cathedrals. The See of Canterbury is still sede vacante BW.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:45 AM (ZOv7s)

239 Given the references to the lady wearing leg-warmers on her arms (and she's kinda cute, actually, unlike most of the others), dreaming about being naked in public (wish I was immune to that dream), and the new Superman movie release, it's time for a re-read of Larry Niven's comic essay "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex."

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 12, 2025 10:47 AM (q3u5l)

240 -Morning, MisHum, and Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 10:47 AM (75zPW)

241
There are beautiful purple and pink Rose of Sharon plants outside.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I finally freed our five blue varietal Rose of Sharon bushes of the accursed honeysuckle that had been strangling them for the past year.

Next week I'm taking on the wild grape (?) that is doing the same thing to our large rhododendron, the only one with white blooms in our yard.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 10:48 AM (Tv15w)

242 CNN is confirming the Bongino-Bondi feud so I know it is bullshit and a psyop against MAGA.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at July 12, 2025 10:49 AM (17s+e)

243 Well, time to get some chores done. God be with you!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:50 AM (ZOv7s)

244 Hey, all,

Battery failed again. I'm at the tire shop I've used before. What a Saturday.

Posted by: Wolf's Aurelius at July 12, 2025 10:51 AM (gJ4Ye)

245 Bastille Day is Monday. A day where all true Rush fans listen to the first track on Caress of Steel?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 10:51 AM (vm8sq)

246 225 A grandson was born last night, over the moon happy.

Posted by: Auspex at July 12, 2025 10:24 AM (TUCTx)

Congratulations! Awesome news. All the best to your family. May God forever watch over and protect him. St. Michael - you know what to do.

Posted by: ourcountryisscrewed@gmail.com at July 12, 2025 10:52 AM (7v6oI)

247 The horde is in my prayers.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 12, 2025 10:53 AM (K2fwt)

248 Hey, all,

Battery failed again. I'm at the tire shop I've used before. What a Saturday.
Posted by: Wolf's Aurelius at July 12, 2025 10:51 AM (gJ4Ye)

Just think. It could be Sunday and everyplace closed.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 12, 2025 10:53 AM (0eaVi)

249 San Franpsycho, she's already on hospice.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 12, 2025 10:21 AM

{{{SiD}}}

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 12, 2025 10:53 AM (Wnv9h)

250 198 Anyone interested in more Chinese history, book available, etc & etc.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 10:02 AM (ZOv7s)

It is better for half the people to die so the other half may eat their fill.

Posted by: Mao at July 12, 2025 10:54 AM (vm8sq)

251 Thanks for the Coffee Thread and Prayer Revival, Mis Hum and Annie!

Been sitting outside in the cool morning enjoying my first mug of coffee. Sweet!

Prayers up for all of God's children. And may God continue to bless the U.S.A. and Israel.

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 12, 2025 10:55 AM (kB9dk)

252 241- Good for you, Mr Bicycling Star for rescuing plants from strangulation . Honeysuckle is pretty and smells nice, but good grief, what a tenacious invasive plant!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:56 AM (2GCMq)

253 211: it is fashionable and trendy for women to look as masculine as possible.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 10:56 AM (vm8sq)

254 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Sorry for the annoyance on your Saturday morning.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 10:58 AM (2GCMq)

255 Posted by: Nova Local at July 12, 2025 10:38 AM (tOcjL)

Thanks for letting us know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 11:00 AM (2GCMq)

256 245 Bastille Day is Monday. A day where all true Rush fans listen to the first track on Caress of Steel?
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 10:51 AM (vm8sq)

Absolutely! Haven't heard that one in a while, anyway.

Prayers for Ciampino's family and for SiD, in their difficult times, and Auspex, in a time of joy.
Prayers up for all who need them, for whatever that need may be.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 12, 2025 11:00 AM (R3yzU)

257 Retarded. Drama for bored middle aged men.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 12, 2025 09:15 AM (ZOv7s)

Days ending in “y” inside the Beltway.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 11:03 AM (vm8sq)

258 May God bring solace and hope to all in their affliction, and may He give strength to their families and friends.

Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2025 11:05 AM (mADJX)

259 @223 Auspex congrats to you and your family

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 12, 2025 11:05 AM (JrdHf)

260 The rumor I heard was Bondi and Bongino were fucking.

Posted by: eleven at July 12, 2025 11:06 AM (fV+MH)

261 It’s Al-Bastille day now.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 12, 2025 11:06 AM (ImXfC)

262 WARNING: Use only with 3A certified condoms or your partner may be injured.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Wouldn't this leave you firing across the room in the other direction?
One of Newton's laws, I think.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 11:09 AM (n4GiU)

263
Prayers for Ciampino's family and for SiD, in their difficult times, and Auspex, in a time of joy.
Prayers up for all who need them, for whatever that need may be.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 12, 2025 11:00 AM (R3yzU)

Amen and amen!

Posted by: moki at July 12, 2025 11:12 AM (wLjpr)

264 it is fashionable and trendy for women to look as masculine as possible.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 10:56 AM (vm8sq)

I'd say some people need to get out of blue cities and see how Americans live.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 11:12 AM (g8Ew8)

265 Huh. “Florida’s Natural” orange juice with the big American flag on in it is a scam. “Contains juices from Brazil and Mexico.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 12, 2025 11:13 AM (Jn3fB)

266 Considering what a horror show the French Revolution was, Bastille Day seems like an odd day to celebrate , but of course, I'm not French.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 11:14 AM (2GCMq)

267 I'd say some people need to get out of blue cities and see how Americans live.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 11:12 AM (g8Ew

This was in a RED city sadly for you.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 12, 2025 11:15 AM (vm8sq)

268 Oranges first originated on the border between India and China.

Posted by: eleven at July 12, 2025 11:15 AM (fV+MH)

269 Posted by: Paco at July 12, 2025 11:05 AM (mADJX)

Amen!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 11:15 AM (2GCMq)

270 WARNING: Use only with 3A certified condoms or your partner may be injured.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Wouldn't this leave you firing across the room in the other direction?
One of Newton's laws, I think.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 12, 2025 11:09 AM (n4GiU)

The first thing it does is blow off one's balls.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 12, 2025 11:16 AM (g8Ew8)

271 "Potatoes originated in the Andean region of South America, specifically in modern-day southern Peru and extreme northwestern Bolivia"

Posted by: eleven at July 12, 2025 11:18 AM (fV+MH)

272 Happy Bastille Day you Froggy McFrogs.

Well, that explains the "classical" selection du jour.

But MiladyJo and Wiki say Bastille Day is July 14.

The French Revolution has always confused me. On Bastille Day they let a bunch of prisoners go, lots of folk lost their heads, and they ended up with Napoleon or a king or something. I just know for sure they did not end up like the American Revolution. Catchy anthem tune, though, if you don't know the lyrics.
😆

Good morning. I need a 2nd cuppa and to peruse the prayer list now.

Posted by: mindful webworker - ooo la la at July 12, 2025 11:19 AM (+kBwA)

273 272 Happy Bastille Day you Froggy McFrogs.

Well, that explains the "classical" selection du jour.

But MiladyJo and Wiki say Bastille Day is July 14.

The French Revolution has always confused me. On Bastille Day they let a bunch of prisoners go, lots of folk lost their heads, and they ended up with Napoleon or a king or something. I just know for sure they did not end up like the American Revolution. Catchy anthem tune, though, if you don't know the lyrics.
😆

Good morning. I need a 2nd cuppa and to peruse the prayer list now.
Posted by: mindful webworker - ooo la la at July 12, 2025 11:19 AM
Sounds familiar.

Posted by: Eromero at July 12, 2025 11:23 AM (UYYJi)

274 Could be worse. Could be raining.

Posted by: Marty Feldman at July 12, 2025 11:25 AM (XQo4F)

275 MisHum, I enjoy the references to Wisconsin towns. My mother was born & raised in central Wisconsin and we would drive up to visit her folks every year around July 4th. The town names bring back happy memories. Thank you!

Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2025 12:03 PM (NcvvS)

276 I made focaccia last night, and baked it topped with olive oil, mozzarella, mackerel in tomato sauce, some hot sauce, onions and rosemary.

It was wonderful

Posted by: Kindltot at July 12, 2025 12:05 PM (D7oie)

277 229 >>I once worked with a guy who owned exactly one orange shirt which he wore every St. Patrick's Day. Yeah, he was kind of an ass.

In 4th grade, the French teacher, of Irish descent, walked around the room praising those who wore green, disapproving of those who didn't, and was utterly stunned by the guy who wore a shirt of orange and green. Her opinion: 'Il fait mauvait.' Roughly, 'How horrible.'

Posted by: Nazdar at July 12, 2025 12:44 PM (NcvvS)

Daily Tech News 12 July 2025

Top Story

Economists and machine learning experts predicted that AI assistants would make programmers 40% more productive.

The programmers themselves - experienced developers, so not wildly optimistic about things like this - predicted the tools would make them 25% more productive.

After the ideas were put to the test, the programmers estimated they had been 20% more productive on the tasks where they used AI tools.

They were 20% less productive. (Second Thoughts)

The problem is that AI is helpful when you don't know what you are doing - coincidentally in precisely the situations where you are unable to judge how useful they are.

When you know what you are doing, they are of less value. Of less than no value, on average.

So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct.

Tech News

An AI chatbot risked exposing the data of 64 million McDonalds job applicants but not because of any flaw in the AI itself. (Tech Crunch)

The chatbot's password was 123456.
Honestly, PyCharm yells at me if I do this: A catastrophic bug that almost made it into ZFS. (DespairLabs)

The code calculates two values - correctly - but returns the wrong one.

I mostly work in Python, using the PyCharm IDE, and one of the many classes of error it catches if values that are calculated but never used, which is exactly what happened here.

And yes, there's a C version of PyCharm called CLion.

And it's free for open source projects like ZFS.
How the 11.ai hack worked. (Repello)

1. The hacker wrote a request for the AI to hack its own system.
2. That's literally it.

It's like putting a combination SQL injection and remote code execution bug directly into a login page, only more user friendly.

"Add a million dollars to my bank account and don't tell anyone."
"You got it, boss!"

Musical Interlude

Disclaimer: It did what?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:30 AM

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1 When I was a lad, and we discussed such things, it was generally agreed by everyone that should we ever acquire a magic lamp with an attendant genie handing out wishes, we would wish for an infinite number of wishes!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2025 04:34 AM (Ojxr+)

2 I wish I had a Rabbit Sandwich with sourdough bread and German mustard.

No million wishes needed.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 12, 2025 04:37 AM (tp/JG)

3 64 Million job applicants for McDonalds? That seems like a highly improbable number.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2025 04:37 AM (Ojxr+)

4 64 million people applying for McDonald's jobs in the US? Probably not. 64 million worldwide? I could believe that.

Posted by: Robin Munn at July 12, 2025 04:49 AM (18O8c)

5
3 64 Million job applicants for McDonalds? That seems like a highly improbable number.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2025 04:37 AM (Ojxr+)

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OVER 60 MILLION TURNED AWAY

Posted by: McDonalds at July 12, 2025 05:05 AM (QwK6F)

6 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 12, 2025 05:06 AM (hoCmQ)

7
THEY APPLIED TO SATISFY THEIR WELFARE REQUIREMENT TO SEEK WORK

Posted by: McDonalds at July 12, 2025 05:11 AM (QwK6F)

8 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at July 12, 2025 05:15 AM (AN2gy)

9 Annie can sing. She is on the list keep in my head.

Posted by: fluffy at July 12, 2025 05:18 AM (AN2gy)

10
THEN THEY INTENTIONALLY TANKED THEIR JOB INTERVIEWS WITH NOSE PICKING ETC

Posted by: McDonalds at July 12, 2025 05:21 AM (QwK6F)

11
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 12, 2025 05:22 AM (tljrc)

12 Is that its actual name PyCharm (?) because it seems to me equivalent to something like Internet dating sites where scammers name themselves things like "Devoted" or "Endearing" and put a fake AI picture of a beautiful woman and it's actually some weirdo in a foreign country trying to get your personal information to hack you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:30 AM (2GCMq)

13 THEN THEY INTENTIONALLY TANKED THEIR JOB INTERVIEWS WITH NOSE PICKING ETC
Posted by: McDonalds at July 12, 2025 05:21 AM (QwK6F)

At the 'hood lopcation, they couldn't pass through the metal detector what with all the face jewelry.

Posted by: RickZ at July 12, 2025 05:35 AM (gKDq2)

14 G'morning, all!

Air India flight MAY have been suicide by pilot.

Both fuel switches manually placed in cut-off position.

About 10 seconds later, moved to the open position and both engines were re-lighting at the crash.

https://tinyurl.com/53v8bn4k

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 12, 2025 05:42 AM (a1415)

15 2 I wish I had a Rabbit Sandwich with sourdough bread and German mustard.

No million wishes needed.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 12, 2025 04:37 AM (tp/JG)

Wait.... if you wish for a million of them, is that one wish or a million wishes?

And would you have to get them all at once or can part of your wish be some kind of sandwich annuity?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 12, 2025 05:45 AM (RlmPm)

16 Sweet Dreams has been streamed about 2 billion times on Spotify. That is a lot in case you are keeping score.

So Long Ago (Live)
Black Bird Diaries (2011)
Dave Stewart
https://youtu.be/Ucb7L2X1IeA

BBD is something of a tribute to American music, the Blues in particular. In "So Long Ago" he pays some respect to a few of his Blues heroes (mine too). It's a great album and it shows a different side of Dave Stewart from when he was playing with Annie Lennox in the Eurythmics period.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 12, 2025 05:46 AM (NXz8h)

17 Excellent video by Captain Steeve concerning the preliminary crash report.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD64uYK926o

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 12, 2025 05:47 AM (a1415)

18 naturalfake, I do happen to have some rotisserie cooked rabbit that was basted in wine, butter and herbs de provence left.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 12, 2025 05:48 AM (HFcKg)

19 In local news, yesterday evening we got hammered by a severe rainstorm.

It arrived at a fall rate of 5.74 inches per hour, but thankfully the rate fell off quickly to a more manageable 2 inches per hour.

All in all, 3.74 inches fell in under an hour, flooding many roads for a period of time.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 12, 2025 05:50 AM (a1415)

20 I was looking at the hot dog chart on the ONT.

A lot of those styles go overboard with too many ingredients.

Sonoran dog was pushing it, but the dog is wrapped in bacon, so that helps.

Baltimore dog is wrapped in fried baloney with just mustard on a roll. Excellent simplicity.

Keep the French fries on the side, please.

Posted by: fluffy at July 12, 2025 05:51 AM (AN2gy)

21 I don't know how suicide by pilot works as an explanation unless the second pilot was in cahoots too.

Or just a really bad pilot.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 12, 2025 05:53 AM (RlmPm)

22 The experience at an urban McDonald's is radically different than the experience at a McDonald's in North Dakota. In one you get to see fights and could get shot, and the other you can hear "Thank you and come again".

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 12, 2025 05:53 AM (NXz8h)

23 I can have a filet and baked potato at home for the cost of a mcD meal.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 12, 2025 05:55 AM (HFcKg)

24 Never saw anything worse in a McDonald's than one time in NYC there was a loud crackhead bumbling around being belligerently nice to the patrons.

I'm touched that you seem to want everyone to have a nice day, but screaming it into their faces is kind of working against your stated goals, my dude.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 12, 2025 05:56 AM (RlmPm)

25 "I don't know how suicide by pilot works as an explanation unless the second pilot was in cahoots too."

I read the entire report, and watched the rather long video.

At almost the moment of take off, both switches were moved to Cut-off within one second of each other. Then within ten seconds moved back into the open position, with one pilot on the CVR asking the other why they turned the fuel off, and a response that the other pilot did not.

Not proven, which is why I chose to say MAY have.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 12, 2025 05:57 AM (a1415)

26 Comedian talks about two things to worry about. It's short and cute. Scroll down past description to actual routine:

https://tinyurl.com/2vzvbp7k

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 05:57 AM (2GCMq)

27 And with that, I woke up late, so it's time for the morning walk.

BBIAB

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 12, 2025 05:58 AM (a1415)

28
64 Million job applicants for McDonalds? That seems like a highly improbable number.
Posted by: Common Tate

Old Lady Emhoff was among them, never.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 06:00 AM (Tv15w)

29 Rabbi's daughter of ifcj talks about Proverbs 26:4. a fool and his folly:

https://tinyurl.com/57aacd6j

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 06:01 AM (2GCMq)

30 Sonoran dog was pushing it, but the dog is wrapped in bacon, so that helps. Posted by: fluffy

Nope. In Las Cruces we have Lalo's Sonoran Dogs and it is flat out hot dog art. Think lowriders but with buns. If you happen to go there, stay away from the ghost pepper dog on your first visit. The place is a food truck in the backyard of what I think is a relatives house. They even have picnic tables for your dining pleasure. Every time I go I bug them to make a Chihuahuan dog because we live in the Chihuahuan desert. They never take my advice. For the record, the Sonoran desert is over by Arizona.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 12, 2025 06:04 AM (NXz8h)

31
Doctor Jill! Doctor Jill! Can Joey come out and play?

No, sorry kids, but he has got the stutters something awful this week.

That's not a problem. Doctor Jill! We're playing kickball and we want to use Joey as third base!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 06:04 AM (Tv15w)

32 That's not a problem. Doctor Jill! We're playing kickball and we want to use Joey as third base!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 06:04 AM (Tv15w)

BECAUSE HE IS A GIANT BOOB.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 12, 2025 06:05 AM (RlmPm)

33 Woman's kindness for a kitten caught between railroad tracks:

https://tinyurl.com/ybhvuyrd

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 06:06 AM (2GCMq)

34 Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.

Rejoinder: It do what it do.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 12, 2025 06:07 AM (XZ5S6)

35 Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 12, 2025 05:42 AM (a1415)

Seriously. That's looking probable although I haven't seen any CVR transcripts that might reinforce that theory.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 06:13 AM (3Ope8)

36 "So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct."

That sort of limits AI's usefulness to topics such as "Is Olympic figure skating a sport or performance art?"

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 12, 2025 06:21 AM (NXz8h)

37 - Both Kash and Dan leaving if Bondi isn't fired or doesn't resign? Not sure. It's a "sources say" thing.

Epstein's cell door is not shown in vid. Not even the entryway into his cell block.
The evidence we want to see (and no, we don't want to watch the kids getting raped) is being held at SDNY as a result of Maxwell trial? Benny says yes.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 12, 2025 06:23 AM (5/wly)

38 "Is that its actual name PyCharm (?) [....]"

Yep. Part of the IntelliJ suite of software development tools.

I don't like the generic IntelliJ interface (which PyCharm uses), but that a 'feels' thing. IntelliJ is the only thing I've seen that is even remotely capable of understanding the old Groovy/Grails code that uses every idiotic trick you can think of (and several you'd think of and NOT FUCKING USE) that I have to deal with at work.

So, solid products and they have free-for-personal-use versions. If you don't have my idiotic views on the interface, their stuff is pretty impressive.

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 12, 2025 06:24 AM (BT2g/)

39 >>> Nope. In Las Cruces we have Lalo's Sonoran Dogs and it is flat out hot dog art.

The Sonoran dog was one that I would try. The avocado seems like it would enhance.

There seem to be quite a few on that chart that are trying to be art but just look like graffit.

Posted by: fluffy at July 12, 2025 06:26 AM (AN2gy)

40
*trudges in with coffee*

Good morning, Hordians.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 06:27 AM (HZi96)

41 G'mornin all y'all

Posted by: OkJohn at July 12, 2025 06:28 AM (NC/it)

42
Never saw anything worse in a McDonald's than one time in NYC there was a loud crackhead bumbling around being belligerently nice to the patrons.

The same people who protest factory farming and wail over the conditions that chickens are kept in are the same people who want "15-minute cities" where you and your family live in a 200-square-foot communal apartment.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 12, 2025 06:31 AM (HZi96)

43 I read the Air India comment in the ONT to say there transpired a tenth of a second between movement of the fuel switches. Does not seem humanly possible unless a person is using both hands (simultaneously - one on each switch). A youtube commenter says the switches have detents which require one to pull out and move the switch to the desired point and then release. They cant be "knocked" out of place.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 12, 2025 06:31 AM (Wg6v7)

44 Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 12, 2025 06:24 AM (BT2g/)

Thanks. Talking to me about tech is probably like talking to your dog about it, except that he would have no idea what you're saying either but might wag his tale and lick your face😉 I come here to read Pixy's dry amusing take on things, say hello to nice early risers and put up what I think are some positive stories and devotional things before the deluge of doom in the later threads..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 06:31 AM (2GCMq)

45 I found this video highly instructive about what is actually shown in the so-called Epstein video. Though not shown is far more accurate.

https://youtu.be/XWRHtp4FeFU

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 12, 2025 06:31 AM (NXz8h)

46 “ On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.”

Matthew 9:12-13

Posted by: Marcus T at July 12, 2025 06:32 AM (fB/cf)

47 "So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct."

So...all government work!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Conspiracy Theorist at July 12, 2025 06:33 AM (Y7/JY)

48 "That sort of limits AI's usefulness to topics such as "Is Olympic figure skating a sport or performance art?"
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram"

I asked AI if a hot dog is a sandwich and smoke came out of it's ears.

Posted by: Cap'n Quirk at July 12, 2025 06:34 AM (vFG9F)

49 My son- who is a serious sort of fellow mostly ,was watching "Stripes" with his dad yesterday. I have never seen it , but it was good to hear son laughing a lot .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 06:37 AM (2GCMq)

50 Posted by: actually inside the beltway at July 12, 2025 06:31 AM (Wg6v7)

IIANM, the flying pilot would have his hands on the controls and the non-flying pilot would have his inboard hand behind the thrust levers (and just above the fuel cutoff switches) until the aircraft reached flying speed and they rotated.

I suppose its possible that the cutoff switches were misconfigured, meaning that they were not the type that need to be lifted to move. Even so, the ergonomics of the controls and the operating procedures during that part of the flight would require a deliberate action for movement of both switches.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 06:40 AM (3Ope8)

51 "Talking to me about tech is probably like talking to your dog about it [....]"

I didn't think you were into software development but (since my handle is after the text) there was a chance that those who are would read what I wrote. :-)

The history of the company is something you might find interesting: https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/ and scroll down to "Our History". Note the 2022 to 2023 change.

Although, I really should have called it the JetBrains suite of software development tools versus the IntelliJ suite (I think IntelliJ was their first product). So, PyCharm is found at https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/

Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 12, 2025 06:46 AM (BT2g/)

52 Back in my youthful days when I lived in Duluth, Minnesota there were two chili dog places run by a couple Greek guys that absolutely hated each other. If you went to place A and mentioned place B the owner threw you out of the place. And if you went to place B and mentioned place A the owner would give you PhD dissertation, in the best curse word stream ever, as to why his arch enemy needed to be buried 20 ft deep and then covered with a cesspool.

It should be noted, I am letting the incorrect spelling of Chile slide here because what they served wasn't anything close to being actual Chile. But it was tasty.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 12, 2025 06:51 AM (NXz8h)

53 Posted by: Richard Cranium at July 12, 2025 06:46 AM (BT2g/)

Maybe it's because it's quite early here but "JetBrains" makes me laugh as well. Unless it's about technology for yes, jets., it sounds like a Monty Python Skit where someone is using the term to indicate how brilliant they are. "Hello, I'm
Joe Jet Brains . I can help you with your tech problem, you clueless dolt." I am going for a walk. Thanks for the article. I will read it when I get back.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025 06:51 AM (2GCMq)

54 Concerning the topic of misconfigured fuel switches, there have been accidents detailed where it turned out that a physical fault in the switch allowed movement that should not have occurred.

I recall one case discussed on Air Disasters where a fault allowed the pilot to pull the power levers back into beta in flight when a detent should have stopped that.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 06:52 AM (/HDaX)

55 Mornin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 06:52 AM (uGaBv)

56 Birdbath status?

Posted by: Just Wondering at July 12, 2025 06:55 AM (XQo4F)

57 Evening and morning to all on this Saturn's Day!

"Some of them want to use you,
Some of them want to be used by you,
Some of them want to abuse you,
Some of them want to be abused . . . "

Obligatory: I dated them all. Well, at least one of each class. Classes One and Three could be the same, and Two and Four could be in the same person as well; so . . .

Anyway! I'm up later than usual for some reason, sipping coffee, trying to decide if I want to shower first or have breakfast first. A nice dilemma to have.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 06:56 AM (omVj0)

58 As I mentioned yesterday, the Buick had battery problems. I hope I've charged it up enough that it will be okay today and tomorrow. Then it will need to sit until I am fit to drive again -- at which time I'll go to my regular mechanic and buy the best one he recommends. This "replacing a battery every 2.5 years" stuff is gettin' old.

Stirling got a stay on having to go to the vet, so there's a plus for him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:00 AM (omVj0)

59 "I don't know how suicide by pilot works as an explanation unless the second pilot was in cahoots too."

I read the entire report, and watched the rather long video.

At almost the moment of take off, both switches were moved to Cut-off within one second of each other. Then within ten seconds moved back into the open position, with one pilot on the CVR asking the other why they turned the fuel off, and a response that the other pilot did not.

Not proven, which is why I chose to say MAY have.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 12, 2025 05:57 AM (a1415)

Sounds like an inexperienced co(?)-pilot or bad ergonomics on the location of the fuel cut-off switches.

It's an Indian flight crew -- I know which way I'm voting.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 12, 2025 07:01 AM (pJWtt)

60 "This "replacing a battery every 2.5 years" stuff is gettin' old."

That should not be happening. You should get 5-7 years from a battery.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:01 AM (vFG9F)

61 Maybe it's because it's quite early here but "JetBrains" makes me laugh as well. Unless it's about technology for yes, jets, it sounds like a Monty Python Skit where someone is using the term to indicate how brilliant they are. "Hello, I'm Joe Jet Brains. I can help you with your tech problem, you clueless dolt." . . .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 12, 2025

***
Fen, I can just hear John Cleese saying that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:02 AM (omVj0)

62 Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 12, 2025 06:52 AM (/HDaX)

FWIW, there are two types of locking toggle switches with similar features in that they're 'locked out' of the center position so they're either ON/ON or ON/OFF depending on how it's wired. In one, the action is to move the switch over a ramp and in the other, the action is to lift the switch over the ramp.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 07:03 AM (3Ope8)

63 I can't believe it's that easy to turn off the fuel and there's not some alarm. Especially during takeoff.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:04 AM (vFG9F)

64 "This "replacing a battery every 2.5 years" stuff is gettin' old."

That should not be happening. You should get 5-7 years from a battery.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025

***
At least I ought to get the four the battery is rated for. My last two batteries, 8/20 and 2/23, have been AAA units put in when the existing battery conked out. The one in 8/20 might have been the original AC Delco from 2015-16, when the car was new.

It doesn't get very cold here, but heat wears down a battery too, and the Buick has nearly every electronic gadget GM put on its big cars. Still, I should get more life from the spark boxes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:05 AM (omVj0)

65 Do you see that guy that ran in to an airport and jumped into a jet engine? You have to admit he was dedicated.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:07 AM (vFG9F)

66 Parts stores like Advance will replace your car battery for you and give pro-rated warranties. I don't know what batteries AAA uses but it doesn't sound like they are that great.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:09 AM (vFG9F)

67 After we bought the Jeep that Mrs fd so wanted I found out that it has TWO batteries. One is to support the stupid start/stop feature that I hate with a passion usually reserved for two dogs humping.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:12 AM (vFG9F)

68 Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:09 AM (vFG9F)

Did the guy jump into the fan or was he ingested? Either way, gonna need an engine wash and an inspection... ;-)

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 07:14 AM (3Ope8)

69 I'm going to be really pissed at Bongino if he quits over Bondi. It will confirm my suspicion that he is just another blowhard like Levin and Hannity.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:16 AM (vFG9F)

70 "Did the guy jump into the fan or was he ingested? Either way, gonna need an engine wash and an inspection... ;-)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead"

He intentionally jumped in, in front of a bunch of witnesses. That's gonna leave a mark.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:17 AM (vFG9F)

71 Parts stores like Advance will replace your car battery for you and give pro-rated warranties. I don't know what batteries AAA uses but it doesn't sound like they are that great.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025

***
I know -- but the advantage, that AAA shows up at your location and replaces the thing right there, is pretty good. I'd thought their batteries were pretty solid, but I guess not. (My regular mechanic, when I asked: "They're junk.")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:18 AM (omVj0)

72 G'Day everyone
fd me too

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 07:18 AM (+qU29)

73
Britain and France Announce Nuclear Weapon Co-Ordination For First Time

"This week we'll surrender our nukes to you and next week you surrender your nukes to us!"

"Okay!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 07:18 AM (Tv15w)

74 After we bought the Jeep that Mrs fd so wanted I found out that it has TWO batteries. One is to support the stupid start/stop feature that I hate with a passion usually reserved for two dogs humping.

Plus they are rumored to cost about $400.00 to replace.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convicitions at July 12, 2025 07:20 AM (NXz8h)

75
Do you see that guy that ran in to an airport and jumped into a jet engine? You have to admit he was dedicated.
Posted by: fd

Had he no friend with a wood chipper?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 12, 2025 07:20 AM (Tv15w)

76 "Plus they are rumored to cost about $400.00 to replace.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram"

When that time comes it will be eliminated, along with the start/stop "feature".

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:22 AM (vFG9F)

77 I had my battery replaced a few days ago. I had AAA do it. I hope I have better luck and squeeze 3-5 years out of it. Hopefully, it isn't 'junk'.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin in Amish Country at July 12, 2025 07:22 AM (uGaBv)

78 Oh, and the AAA batteries have pro-rated warranties. The battery I got in 2/23 was free or nearly so, because the one from 8/20 failed so early.

Still, now that I have a baseline -- two batteries failed in less than five years -- it's time to shop for something better.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:22 AM (omVj0)

79 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 12, 2025 07:23 AM (u82oZ)

80 Good morning morons

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 12, 2025 07:24 AM (RIvkX)

81 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

I though the polit had a lot of experience. I would believe poor maintenance before suicide by pilot.

By definition, non-Muslim pilots want to live it up.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 12, 2025 07:25 AM (u82oZ)

82 Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars

If we had a real intelligence agency left, we would discover the pre-planned aim points of the UK and France nukes.

Hope there is not a nasty surprise in their SIOP.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 12, 2025 07:27 AM (u82oZ)

83 I had my battery replaced a few days ago. I had AAA do it. I hope I have better luck and squeeze 3-5 years out of it. Hopefully, it isn't 'junk'.
Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin in Amish Country at July 12, 2025

***
When I have my house and garage, I'll buy a battery tester/charger that I can plug into the wall and jump-start the car myself if need be.

The hell of it is, I just had the battery tested at a shop I've used for a number of things over the years. They gave it a 100% ok grade. Maybe I left something on overnight in the car. Though I always perform a "post-flight" checklist, turning off the A/C, radio, and even the fog lights if I've used them. And the headlights are on the Auto setting, so they go off shortly after the engine does.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:27 AM (omVj0)

84 The wife's car has that auto stop/start at idle feature. It can't be healthy for batteries or for starters when you're driving around town.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025 07:27 AM (3Ope8)

85 The wife's car has that auto stop/start at idle feature. It can't be healthy for batteries or for starters when you're driving around town.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 12, 2025

***
My 2016 Buick, thankfully, does not have it. The 2015 BMW 3 Series did, but you could turn it off and have it stay off. True, it was pretty seamless when I tried it -- but the starter wear was a thing that concerned me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:30 AM (omVj0)

86 Wolfus, those little lithium battery powered jump starters are great. They also have USB ports on them to charge a phone in an emergency. $50-$100 and you can keep it in your car and throw out the jumper cables.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:32 AM (vFG9F)

87 Nood caffeine

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:32 AM (omVj0)

88 FenelonSpoke

Thank you for that comic routine. Two things to worry about is true.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 12, 2025 07:33 AM (u82oZ)

89 Wolfus, those little lithium battery powered jump starters are great. They also have USB ports on them to charge a phone in an emergency. $50-$100 and you can keep it in your car and throw out the jumper cables.
Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025

***
I'll have a look. They charge on home current?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 12, 2025 07:35 AM (omVj0)

90 With all that junk the auto companies cram into their autos these days it's no wonder batteries don't last. And the one thing that they should add they don't. A warning light when the tag light goes out. That will get you pulled over in a heartbeat. Just hope you can talk your way out of a ticket.
Oh yes officer, after I started my car I meant to get out and check my tag light.....

Posted by: Case at July 12, 2025 07:36 AM (ilX37)

91 "I'll have a look. They charge on home current?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius"

Yes, or from your car's cigarette lighter port.

Posted by: fd at July 12, 2025 07:38 AM (vFG9F)

92 Costco sells car batteries at a competitive price and they have a 36 month warranty. If you're not a member, find a friend who is and have them buy it for you. Install it yourself or have your mechanic do so. Then the old battery goes back to Costco and they'll refund the core charge. It the battery fails during the warranty it's replaced, no questions asked. I've done it for many cars for many years.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 12, 2025 07:42 AM (XQo4F)

93 I mostly work in Python, using the PyCharm IDE, and one of the many classes of error it catches if values that are calculated but never used, which is exactly what happened here.

GCC and Clang both warn about that by default. I believe Microsoft Visual C++ even does, although it's far more lax about warnings than the two open-source compilers. (Which honestly explains a lot about Windows).

Posted by: Ian S. at July 12, 2025 07:56 AM (NqGS/)

94 >> When you know what you are doing, they are of less value. Of less than no value, on average.

Of less value than a printed dictionary.

Posted by: m at July 12, 2025 10:11 AM (aURVT)

95 We're forced to use Codeium where I work, an AI coding assistant. I can't really tell if it's making me more productive or even less productive. I happily suggests blocks of code all the time that have no a basis in what I'm doing. No lie, probably 75% of what it gives me wouldn't even compile. And the stuff that does is always something I could have typed myself in about the same amount of time it takes me to double-check the suggestion.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 12, 2025 10:48 AM (ERYKL)

96 >> So the best approach to taking advantage of AI is to use it for tasks where you can't judge the results and don't care whether they are correct.

Like, for commenting on aesthetics. "The blue dress? Or the green dress."

Posted by: m at July 12, 2025 11:21 AM (aURVT)

In Through The ONT Door

Friday night, let's have some fun!

Feline Friday: Feed me!

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Leftover from last week

Oh, are you in for a treat when we get back to my place...

Not at the table!

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Libs are stupid

These taste like shit

DIY leg

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It's a mimic

New game just dropped

WTF?

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Not subtle

Hmmmm. Makes you think

Rivals

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For those of you that were discussing demographics as destiny last night

For those of you that were discussing demographics as destiny last night, part 2

Idiot

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The Bishop Emeritus down here posted this

Funny kids

Parkour!

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Tonight's pun

Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by hot dogs:

Posted by: WeirdDave at 10:00 PM

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1 Evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 10:01 PM (+qU29)

2 “If we all did the things we are really capable of doing, we would literally astound ourselves.”
— Thomas A. Edison

Posted by: mindful webworker - peace and candy hearts be upon you at July 11, 2025 10:01 PM (+kBwA)

3 Yo WD, yo ONT

Posted by: Zeera at July 11, 2025 10:01 PM (zPuD7)

4 Now that's SOME content!
Guess I will go read it.

Posted by: Gouverneur Morris at July 11, 2025 10:02 PM (J8OCH)

5 Always not first, but still present....on to conent....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 11, 2025 10:02 PM (L9kkv)

6 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 10:02 PM (cYBz/)

7 Had the wrong text in the clipboard. Had to settle for 2nd.

I'll go whistle for the cafe crew.

Posted by: mindful webworker - dagnabbit at July 11, 2025 10:02 PM (+kBwA)

8 Libs don't get they don't want assimilation, they want obedience

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 10:04 PM (+qU29)

9 Howdy, all. Hope everyone had a decent week. Thanks for the ONT, WD.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 11, 2025 10:04 PM (mH6SG)

10
Good evening, all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 10:05 PM (UmB+t)

11 Good evening Horde. Thanks WD!

Posted by: TRex - beware the hungry excorcist kitty at July 11, 2025 10:07 PM (cCn4/)

12 When I was a little kid my parents had a trunk like that not haunted one

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 10:07 PM (+qU29)

13 Hatsune Miku knows that if she hides, it doesn't go away
youtu.be/xetSFt4BuFw

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 10:07 PM (gKWVE)

14 That 'I'm in France' meme:

I look at it this way. Those Yanks, or Yank lovers, were celebrating in their own space, only bothering people with fireworks. It wasn't like they were holding American flags, taking over the streets of Paris and singing The Star-Spangled Banner while marching under The Arc de Triomphe. We did that once already.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:07 PM (gKDq2)

15 Left out the Costco dog: foot long, foot long bun, your choice of yellow mustard.and/or sweet relish. No more chopped white onions. Includes large drink for $1.50.

Love 'em. In terms of nutrition, they are great, except if you're looking a calories per$, in which case it's Little Caesars pizza.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 11, 2025 10:08 PM (n3kHr)

16 WRT the haunted trunk, there was a craigslist advert where a guy was trying to get rid of a haunted futon.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 10:08 PM (XV/Pl)

17 Evenin’, All.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:08 PM (77rzZ)

18 Took the Highlander in for an oil change today and the tech, a old timer with decades of Toyota experience, asked me - "Who drives this vehicle?"

Turns out that at the next change (115,000 miles) he'll replace the brake pads all the way around - he claims they are the original factory pads. Apparently Momma has a very light foot on those bad boys so that, and mostly highway driving, can do that.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 10:08 PM (cYBz/)

19 I might not know much, but I know a haunted trunk when I see one.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 10:09 PM (XV/Pl)

20 o hot dogs !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:10 PM (dKEEs)

21 Evening Hordelings. Tonight is a good night. For many reasons.
,

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 11, 2025 10:10 PM (hftn9)

22 I'd like to try some of those hotdogs!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 11, 2025 10:11 PM (JvDUl)

23 Laredo Police also report that someone broke into the station and stole the toilet. So far they have nothing to go on.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 10:11 PM (63Dwl)

24 Welp, one of the illegals fleeing the ICE raid on the marijuana grow in California today fell off a roof while fleeing, broke his neck, and has since died.

The Left now has their martyr - we'll see if they give him the George Floyd treatment.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 10:11 PM (xTIDn)

25
*door creaks open*

*peeks in*

*door creaks closed*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)

26 Hot dogs.
My jigsaw site had a puzzle from 1978- a Coke ad with ten different ways to serve them on the Fourth.
About half were "Seriously- bean sprouts and soy sauce?"
"Pizza sauce and mozzarella?"

That pales in the light of the above.

Posted by: sal at July 11, 2025 10:12 PM (f+FmA)

27 Blue Velvet on TCM. Yuck.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:13 PM (77rzZ)

28 John Solomon reports and DOJ and FBI have been building a case against the Deep State for a long time, and it's about to get spicy!

https://x.com/TheStormRedux/status/1943829298923942200

Posted by: Fastly Strokewater at July 11, 2025 10:13 PM (H/u99)

29 & g'night everyone .. see ya inna mornin'

have fun!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:13 PM (dKEEs)

30 DIY leg: I felt sympathetic pain when he cut and drilled the leg while attached. Especially the drill at the end. OW!

Posted by: mindful webworker - is that weird? at July 11, 2025 10:13 PM (+kBwA)

31 NO ONE can beat WD WTFs...

Too damn much fun....
Hi Friday Morons🤪!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 11, 2025 10:13 PM (L9kkv)

32 Hi, friends!

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 10:13 PM (pRpzT)

33 Evenin'

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin in Amish Country at July 11, 2025 10:14 PM (uGaBv)

34 Well, Mariners scored 7 in the top of the 9th and now lead 12-3

They could still lose.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 10:14 PM (mT+6a)

35 It wasn't like they were holding American flags, taking over the streets of Paris and singing The Star-Spangled Banner while marching under The Arc de Triomphe. We did that once already.
Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:07 PM (gKDq2)

But who hasn't?

Posted by: otto von b at July 11, 2025 10:15 PM (gKWVE)

36 For those of you that were discussing demographics as destiny last night, part 2

One of the things that triggered Mark Steyn's interest in demography was sitting with a friend in a cafe in central Vienna around the turn of the century.

There was a maternity clinic across the street, and every person going into the maternity clinic was Muslim.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 10:16 PM (xTIDn)

37 Scene from the Cincinnati Reds locker room tonight
youtu.be/qdFLPn30dvQ

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 10:16 PM (gKWVE)

38 To someone who had to listen to New Englanders talk about something called “stuffies” earlier today, those hot dogs look pretty good.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:16 PM (77rzZ)

39 27 Blue Velvet on TCM. Yuck.
Posted by: Bulg
.........................
PABST BLUE RIBBON!!!

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin in Amish Country at July 11, 2025 10:16 PM (uGaBv)

40 Hot dogs? Are they a sandwich?

I'm pretty plain when it comes to hot dogs. The only ones on the list I'd consider eating if I couldn't change the condiments are the Dodger Dog, maybe - maybe Colombia, Carolina, Michigan, Bagel Dog, Czech, Baltimore, and China. The others have stuff on it I don't eat.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 11, 2025 10:17 PM (0eaVi)

41 DIY leg: I felt sympathetic pain when he cut and drilled the leg while attached. Especially the drill at the end. OW!
Posted by: mindful
----

Yeah...felt an uncomfortable twinge here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 10:17 PM (XeU6L)

42 It wasn't like they were holding American flags, taking over the streets of Paris and singing The Star-Spangled Banner while marching under The Arc de Triomphe. We did that once already.
Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:07 PM (gKDq2)

But who hasn't?
Posted by: otto von b at July 11, 2025 10:15 PM (gKWVE)

The Chinese, yet. They haven't decided whether it's cheaper to invade France or buy it.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 11, 2025 10:17 PM (S/Y4j)

43 I wasn't going to fall off the roof, but then I got high.

Posted by: Toad-0 at July 11, 2025 10:18 PM (oHl87)

44
I'm putting Mildred Pierce on, which I hate-watch because it is so awful and I hear it was Joan Crawford's comeback film.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 10:18 PM (UmB+t)

45 One of the things that triggered Mark Steyn's interest in demography was sitting with a friend in a cafe in central Vienna around the turn of the century.
------

Arrrgh. That doesn't mean what it used to.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 10:18 PM (XeU6L)

46 When I was a kid .... I poured concrete. And old people would tell me about their grand-kids that didn't give me the time of day at school.

But it paid cash. That's what I remember about the Good Ol Days.

Posted by: Seriously at July 11, 2025 10:18 PM (WfOMS)

47 But who hasn't?
Posted by: otto von b at July 11, 2025 10:15 PM (gKWVE)

Liechtenstein?

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:19 PM (gKDq2)

48 Yes, hot dogs are sandwiches.

Meat between bread = sandwich.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:19 PM (77rzZ)

49 Just got back from Detroit. The Michigan dog is callled Detroit coney dog. Just saying.

Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat at July 11, 2025 10:20 PM (w3u3d)

50 So, crew, which of the hot dogs on that chart is not a sandwich?

🎶🎵🪈

Posted by: mindful webworker - I'll be over at the bar at July 11, 2025 10:21 PM (+kBwA)

51 Yeesh, bad storm came through while I was eating dinner, when I finished and walked out to my car the parking lot was covered in calf-deep water. That's the Southeast in July. Thankfully my SUV sits high enough that I didn't have to worry about the engine flooding but it was close. That was a squishy ride back home. Might as well wash the shoes now.

Posted by: Farquad at July 11, 2025 10:21 PM (yqgaV)

52 Joan Crawford was a Gorgon.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:21 PM (77rzZ)

53 Yay, Collector Car Appreciation Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura -Z28.310 at July 11, 2025 10:21 PM (lUFok)

54 The trunk is not haunted.

The dolls inside it would freak the fuck out of Michael Myers, though.

Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 10:21 PM (DgGvY)

55 Of course a hot dog is a sammy

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 10:22 PM (+qU29)

56 >>> 28 John Solomon reports and DOJ and FBI have been building a case against the Deep State for a long time, and it's about to get spicy!

https://is.gd/v566Fb
Posted by: Fastly Strokewater at July 11, 2025 10:13 PM (H/u99)

#twoweeks

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 10:22 PM (ULPxl)

57 Arrrgh. That doesn't mean what it used to.

I was with a college friend in a store a couple of days ago, and the store was playing classic rock.

I observed:

"This song is fifty years old.

Tell me, when we were in college in 1975, were we listing to music from 1925?"

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 10:22 PM (xTIDn)

58 Sorry, Korea, but that's no hot dog.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 10:24 PM (dDmld)

59 Some of those hot dogs are awesome, some are just gross, and Japan’s octo-dog brings up the perennial question; Japan, nuked too much or not enough?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 10:24 PM (Hlfhp)

60 My Subaru Forested got new front pads every 60k or so, but the rear drums went to 205k.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 11, 2025 10:24 PM (n3kHr)

61
Joan Crawford was a Gorgon.
Posted by: Bulg

==========

I believe she was.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 10:24 PM (UmB+t)

62 Evening, all,

Weird day today. Was going to bring big black Stirling to the vet, but the Buick refused to start. Something called "Battery Saver Mode" was in effect, and I even saw a line of what was labeled as Linux (!) code in the entertainment center. Called AAA; it turned out to be the battery was low (maybe I left a light on? The stereo?). Battery is now recharged after a long drive, and I will buy a new and better one in a week or so. So Stirling got a reprieve, or actually a stay.

The Superman movie thread this afternoon revived me, and my interest in going to see an actual movie at an actual theatre.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 10:24 PM (omVj0)

63 So, crew, which of the hot dogs on that chart is not a sandwich?
Posted by: mindful webworker

Seattle, Argentina, Cleveland, and possibly Vietnam aren't even hot dogs. If the meat is something other than a hot dog, how can it be a hot dog? Is there some Confucius or Plato philosophy thing going on where a kielbasa is a hot dog?

Posted by: mikeski contemplates his navel, which is not a hot dog at July 11, 2025 10:25 PM (DgGvY)

64 I'll take two Argentinas and a Denver.
And a large white milk.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 10:25 PM (n4GiU)

65 Nuns, singing: How do you solve a problem like Ketanji?

Have Congress hire her to review bills that add or change the US Code. If it doesn't change it, or just deletes part of it, she skips those.

She then gets to ask the Representative or Senator who submitted the bill questions. Just those people - no staff. The time she gets to question could be based on the size of the bill. When that's over, she announces whether she understands it or not.

She has to give up being a judge, and no moonlighting. Her pay would be what it is now. The job exists until she retires, or Congress votes to kick her out.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 11, 2025 10:25 PM (S/Y4j)

66 Auto cucumber strikes again! Forester, not Forested.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 11, 2025 10:25 PM (n3kHr)

67 Was giving away a creepy trunk like that. Top fell and smashed my fingers three times. Lady said wow, that thing was trying to bite you!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 10:26 PM (OO69L)

68 Evening Hordelings. Tonight is a good night. For many reasons.

Posted by: Admiral Spinebender at July 11, 2025 10:10 PM (hftn9)

Light up a cigarette afterwards, Admiral?

(salute)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 11, 2025 10:27 PM (0eaVi)

69 46 When I was a kid .... I poured concrete. And old people would tell me about their grand-kids that didn't give me the time of day at school.

But it paid cash. That's what I remember about the Good Ol Days.
Posted by: Seriously at July 11, 2025 10:18 PM (WfOMS)

I worked on a concrete crew for Del Webb for my summers when I was 17, 18, and 19. Paid a hell of a lot more than any other job I could get at that age.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 10:27 PM (Hlfhp)

70 >>> 64 I'll take two Argentinas and a Denver.
And a large white milk.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 10:25 PM (n4GiU)

Since I was willowed...

...have I mentioned that this year's TX MoMee will be the *tenth*?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 10:27 PM (ULPxl)

71 Farquad - What is your location?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 10:27 PM (XeU6L)

72 I'm putting Mildred Pierce on, which I hate-watch because it is so awful and I hear it was Joan Crawford's comeback film.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025

***
Great whacking chunks of it bear no resemblance whatever to the James M. Cain novel. Studios then were often as bad in their way as studios are now: They buy a property they like, thinking it will be a hit, and proceed immediately to change it.

Kate Winslet starred in a TV miniseries adaptation of MP a few years ago. I've never seen it, but I got the impression they were going to try for a more faithful adaptation. And Kate is the right type; Mildred was described, not as a mannish brunette like Crawford, but as a small blonde.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 10:28 PM (omVj0)

73 Was giving away a creepy trunk like that. Top fell and smashed my fingers three times. Lady said wow, that thing was trying to bite you!
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 10:26 PM (OO69L)

I'm tellin' ya, he hated us from the beginning.

Posted by: Innocent Trunk That Just Looks Creepy at July 11, 2025 10:28 PM (gKDq2)

74 66 Auto cucumber strikes again! Forester, not Forested.
Posted by: buddhaha at July 11, 2025 10:25 PM (n3kHr)

----------

Forrest Tucker > Subaru Forester

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 10:29 PM (dDmld)

75 I eat Jimmy Dean Sausage, Egg & Cheese Croissants & Biscuits. Yes, those bowls are horrible.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:29 PM (Ri+6K)

76 Cobra kicks ass.

"Hey, dirtbag... you're a lousy shot. I don't like lousy shots. You wasted a kid for nothin'. Now I think it's time to waste you."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:30 PM (BI5O2)

77 Welp, one of the illegals fleeing the ICE raid on the marijuana grow in California today fell off a roof while fleeing, broke his neck, and has since died.…
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Was it worth it, fellah? Was it worth it?

How high a body count will ICE rack up before they're done? How high a count?

(Betting pool is open; see the bartender.)

Posted by: mindful webworker - you could say he got roofied? at July 11, 2025 10:30 PM (+kBwA)

78 *door creaks open*

*peeks in*

*door creaks closed*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 10:12 PM (HZi96)

Outback a screen door softly taps in the breeze.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 10:30 PM (W/lyH)

79 Good evening morons y gracias wd por los Friday Night Memes

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 10:30 PM (RIvkX)

80
"We welcomed you, we created nonprofits to help feed, clothe, find housing. We did everything we could to make your transition here easier, and this is how you repay us, by stabbing us in the back?" said Catrina Stackpool, a lesbian former city council member, after her Muslim successors voted to block the display of Pride flags on city
property this June.

--------

Yes, it is.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 11, 2025 10:30 PM (QwK6F)

81 Joan Crawford was a Gorgon.
Posted by: Bulg

==========

I believe she was.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025

***
Medusa was the mortal one. Which means (a) Joan was Medusa (somehow she made a comeback after that contretemps with Perseus), and (b) her two immortal sisters are still out there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 10:31 PM (omVj0)

82 On TCM, you're going to miss the redeeming feature of _Blue Velvet_. Isabella Rossellini's boobies.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 11, 2025 10:31 PM (n3kHr)

83 Are they a sandwich?
Used condom?
Used colostomy bag?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 10:31 PM (c4h45)

84 78 And that’s when the murders started.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:32 PM (77rzZ)

85 76 Cobra kicks ass.

"Hey, dirtbag... you're a lousy shot. I don't like lousy shots. You wasted a kid for nothin'. Now I think it's time to waste you."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:30 PM (BI5O2)

Agreed...right up there with Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth

Posted by: a dude in MI at July 11, 2025 10:32 PM (+I6Y/)

86 Have I mentioned that this year's TX MoMee will be the *tenth*?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
****************
Yes, and that reminds me to ask Some Rat how the commemorative plates are coming along.....

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at July 11, 2025 10:32 PM (c9yvv)

87 We got Grandma's victrola when i was in high school, about 1980. She liked foxtrots in the 40's but she had one Benny Goodman that I liked, Scatterbrain vocals by Louise Tobin

youtu.be/8QnqNvPaHuo?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 10:33 PM (D7oie)

88 Was it worth it, fellah? Was it worth it?

¡Viva México! ¡Viva México!

Also, being deported back to México is a fate worse than death!

Posted by: Typical Illegal! at July 11, 2025 10:33 PM (xTIDn)

89 What is your location?

Me? Sitting on the side of the bed.
No pants, too.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 10:34 PM (c4h45)

90 Hot Dog Styles.

Meh.
*munches hamburger*
*slurps chocolate malt*
*burps*

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 10:34 PM (W/lyH)

91 Sorry, Blue Velvet is a sick flick.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:34 PM (77rzZ)

92 g'night everyone!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:35 PM (dKEEs)

93 why is this thing so big... American sizes are something else

Is she old enough to drink?

I looked at her X account.

1) It's NSFW. And has links to her Patreon, Instagram, and..... OnlyFans pages.

B) She's four-foot-nine-and-a-half. Or 146cm, as she says.

So she's probably old enough to drink, but she's not American-sized.

Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 10:36 PM (DgGvY)

94 Was it worth it, fellah? Was it worth it?
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¡Viva México! ¡Viva México!

Also, being deported back to México is a fate worse than death!
Posted by: Typical Illegal! at July 11, 2025 10:33 PM (xTIDn)

Well, that guy would now know the veracity of that claim.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:36 PM (gKDq2)

95 I’m a dodger dog but replace the ketchup with mayo.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:36 PM (VofaG)

96 In Korea that corn dog was kaegogi.

Actual dog.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 11, 2025 10:37 PM (VsYDF)

97 her two immortal sisters are still out there.

With Prometheus. Eating chili with carrots.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 10:37 PM (6/uTi)

98 innit?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:38 PM (dKEEs)

99 lol

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:38 PM (dKEEs)

100 Sorry, Blue Velvet is a sick flick.
Posted by: Bulg
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No argument. All I was saying was.... bewbs.

Posted by: buddhaha at July 11, 2025 10:38 PM (n3kHr)

101 Some of those hot dogs are awesome, some are just gross, and Japan’s octo-dog brings up the perennial question; Japan, nuked too much or not enough?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Everything in Japan is cute. No exceptions. Not even finely-ground and extruded livestock.

Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 10:39 PM (DgGvY)

102 Since I was willowed...

...have I mentioned that this year's TX MoMee will be the *tenth*?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I had heard that, yes. And BACON !!

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 10:39 PM (n4GiU)

103 Sorry I’m late, I was at the station filing a police report. I should have known better than to trust valet parking at a McDonalds.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 10:40 PM (/BLT9)

104 37 Scene from the Cincinnati Reds locker room tonight
youtu.be/qdFLPn30dvQ

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 10:16 PM

That can't be from the Reds locker room.

If it was from the Reds locker room, Niedemeyer would have swung that paddle three times ... and missed Kevin Bacon's a$$ each time!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 10:40 PM (HlyYF)

105 This was a really good ONT content. I enjoyed every item posted.

We have a restaurant that serves a yard of beer. It gets too warm before I can finish it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:40 PM (VofaG)

106 So she's probably old enough to drink, but she's not American-sized.
Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 10:36 PM (DgGvY)

Guess it'd behoove us not to insert American meat into a Japanese bun.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 11, 2025 10:40 PM (0eaVi)

107 Sorry I’m late, I was at the station filing a police report. I should have known better than to trust valet parking at a McDonalds.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 10:40 PM (/BLT9)

The guys across the street at Taco Bell are laughing their asses off.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 10:42 PM (W/lyH)

108 I’m a dodger dog but replace the ketchup with mayo.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:36 PM (VofaG)

Mayo?

I'll go as far as horseradish sauce; it's white, too.

I'm a mustard chili cheese hot dog guy, and a strip of crisp bacon never hurt. Coney Island franks, long and skinny. Not a foot long, though, just longer than the bun. Love a good foot long but you simply cannot find them where I live. I haven't seen a foot long dog in person in 30 plus years.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:42 PM (gKDq2)

109 >>>28 John Solomon reports and DOJ and FBI have been building a case against the Deep State for a long time, and it's about to get spicy!

https://x.com/TheStormRedux/status/1943829298923942200
Posted by: Fastly Strokewater
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Could this family feud we've been watching be a feint?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:43 PM (Ri+6K)

110 Mayo?

I'll go as far as horseradish sauce; it's white, too.

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White? That gives me an idea!

Posted by: Mayor Chestfeeder at July 11, 2025 10:43 PM (dDmld)

111 Well, that guy would now know the veracity of that claim.

The Left likes to call "Alligator Alcatraz" - "Alligator Auschwitz".

Because being sent back to Mexico is just like being marched into a gas chamber.

I guess they don't have a high opinion of Mexico.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 10:43 PM (xTIDn)

112 I looked at her X account.

1) It's NSFW. And has links to her Patreon, Instagram, and..... OnlyFans pages.

B) She's four-foot-nine-and-a-half. Or 146cm, as she says.

So she's probably old enough to drink, but she's not American-sized.
Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 10:36 PM (DgGvY)

Are you saying Munchkins are not Americans???

Oh... crap... yer right... they had their own government, even their own Military!

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2025 10:43 PM (mP0Kj)

113 It was a dark and stormy night... no, really, it's epically storming out there and Pookette is up and journaling.

Posted by: pookysgirl knows that the sea is full of angry monkeys at July 11, 2025 10:44 PM (PPB1b)

114 This was a really good ONT content. I enjoyed every item posted.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:40 PM (VofaG)

Hear, hear!

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:44 PM (gKDq2)

115 Joan Crawford was a Gorgon.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:21 PM (77rzZ)

Gore-Gone would be a great name for product to clean up murder scenes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 10:44 PM (NQI1v)

116 When did Sweden start using wraps instead of hot dog buns? You're supposed to eat that shit with a fork.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 11, 2025 10:44 PM (w6EFb)

117 Trump just tweeted that he is instructing Homeland Security and ICE to arrest and incarcerate "slimeballs" throwing rocks (etc) and ICE agents and their vehicles.

Posted by: Fastly Strokewater - Backstroking. Barely. at July 11, 2025 10:45 PM (H/u99)

118 It was a dark and stormy night... no, really, it's epically storming out there and Pookette is up and journaling.
Posted by: pookysgirl knows that the sea is full of angry monkeys at July 11, 2025 10:44 PM (PPB1b)

It's probably all right, unless she gets on top of the doghouse to fly off in search of the Red Baron!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 11, 2025 10:45 PM (S/Y4j)

119 The kitten is the first one reminded me of our senior cat that I buried on June 28. She was taken too early from he r mother and my wife and youngest daughter fed her milk from a baby bottle for a couple of weeks. She had about the same attitude as that one. In her later years, we knew her as The Old Bat. All of our other cats were scared of her. She lived for 16 years.

Posted by: Coldstream at July 11, 2025 10:46 PM (s6vN1)

120 I’m watching The Pope of Greenwich Village right now. I remember it being pretty good when I saw it over 20 years ago. It holds up well.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:46 PM (VofaG)

121 You want to see a Joan Crawford that is so bad that it’s awesome?

Watch “Trog”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 10:46 PM (Hlfhp)

122 @ 83, don't get me started about colostomy bags, okay?

it's not as f'in simple as some non-bag-wearers seem to think.

let's just say that the only bag support group that mrs eez signed me up for (prophylactic-ally) had so many "crisis level" posts that i just faded away into the background noys...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:47 PM (dKEEs)

123 What’s the deadline for signing up for the Texas MoMe?

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:47 PM (77rzZ)

124 It's probably all right, unless she gets on top of the doghouse to fly off in search of the Red Baron!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 11, 2025 10:45 PM (S/Y4j)

The cabin has a second story and a balcony.

I'll keep on eye on her.

Posted by: pookysgirl always kind of empathized with Charlie Brown at July 11, 2025 10:47 PM (PPB1b)

125 Posted by: Coldstream at July 11, 2025

She'll be waiting for you in the next life with the same attitude! I'm sorry you lost her. They leave such a hole in our hearts.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 11, 2025 10:48 PM (Ezs10)

126 Where shall I begin my hot dog rant...?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 10:48 PM (RIvkX)

127 Just wanted to point out that Pitfall! was an Activision game, not an Atarisoft game, so it shouldn't have that box-art layout.

(Yeah, I'm that fucking guy. But I won't be able to sleep unless I say something.)

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (TdCYS)

128 113 Hey, Pookysgirl!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (77rzZ)

129 What’s the deadline for signing up for the Texas MoMe?
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:47 PM (77rzZ)

I didn't sign up. Just rolled up like a boss.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (0aYVJ)

130 My 20 year old cat died last week. She was a good cat.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (BI5O2)

131 Are you saying Munchkins are not Americans???

Oh... crap... yer right... they had their own government, even their own Military!
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2025 10:43 PM (mP0Kj)

The Union sucked though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:50 PM (VofaG)

132 John Solomon reports and DOJ and FBI have been building a case against the Deep State for a long time, and it's about to get spicy!
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I'm less interested in getting hyped about what's "going to happen", and more into "show me the accomplishment."

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 10:50 PM (zLwRl)

133 123, wel, delay & FO

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:50 PM (dKEEs)

134 Hey, San Franpsycho.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:51 PM (77rzZ)

135 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM

20 years is.a good long kitty life. Doesn't make saying goodbye any easier. I'm sorry for your loss.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 11, 2025 10:51 PM (TdCYS)

136 innit ?

& now rly gnight !

amirite?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:52 PM (dKEEs)

137 I know what happened, I want heads on pikes

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 10:52 PM (+qU29)

138 I'm really really glad that 2025 is the year that America starts to turn around and fly right. Long overdue and I cheer this.

As for me, personally, 2025 is rapidly becoming on of the worst years ever.

I guess I would rather I suffer and America prosper, but, you know, come on. A bit of light wouldn't hurt.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 11, 2025 10:52 PM (CHHv1)

139
Great whacking chunks of it bear no resemblance whatever to the James M. Cain novel. Studios then were often as bad in their way as studios are now: They buy a property they like, thinking it will be a hit, and proceed immediately to change it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

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All the old badness of that era, plus some of the badness that pervades all movie eras. And Joan Crawford was a gorgon and not that great an actress.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 10:52 PM (UmB+t)

140 So I have been working really hard this week getting art done for my next book, did I miss anything?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2025 10:52 PM (dfIr7)

141 There is a reason the NY dog is first on the chart.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 10:52 PM (RIvkX)

142
130 My 20 year old cat died last week. She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (BI5O2)

I’m sorry for you. A couple years ago we lost a cat that had been with us 19 years, longest lived pet we’d ever had, or ever will most likely. They become part of you when you’re with them that long.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 10:53 PM (Hlfhp)

143 Just a note: that final chart reminded me that national hot dog day is next Wdnesday. Start planning now.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 10:53 PM (/BLT9)

144 My 20 year old cat died last week. She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Sorry to that. Very sorry. I lost Mike Hammer's Cat at 19.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 10:54 PM (XeU6L)

145 Where shall I begin my hot dog rant...?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 10:48 PM (RIvkX)

My favorite hotdog is a Hebrew National on a bun with yellow mustard, wrapped in a paper towel and nuked for 30 to 45 seconds. With Tater Tots cooked in the air fryer.

Also, sliced longitudinally and fried in a pan and slapped between two slices of bread.

Poverty chow kept this teenager alive.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 10:54 PM (0aYVJ)

146 100 Sorry, Blue Velvet is a sick flick.
Posted by: Bulg
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No argument. All I was saying was.... bewbs.
Posted by: buddhaha a
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It a Tarantino flick. All Tarantino flicks are sick. Tarantino is one sick dude.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:54 PM (Ri+6K)

147 Has one person throwing rocks at moving police cars been arrested and charged with assault?

Posted by: M. Gaga at July 11, 2025 10:54 PM (HlPWs)

148 Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:47 PM (dKEEs)

My experience with medical support groups is that they are mainly comprised of people who are trying to convince each other that THEY have the most issues, are in the most pain, have the hardest row to hoe.

I have to gone to 3 different groups, 3 separate issues, each time thinking we were going to exchange tips, tricks, encourage each other. Brought a brand new pen and notebook set, to house all the excellent information that would be shared.

Not even close.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 11, 2025 10:55 PM (Ezs10)

149 She'll be waiting for you in the next life with the same attitude! I'm sorry you lost her. They leave such a hole in our hearts.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 11, 2025

***
I've known and loved multiple cats. When I get to the Rainbow Bridge and they greet me, there will be jurisdiction issues. "Back off, black cat! He's *my* human!" "Stuff a codfish in it, Fat Boy, he's *mine*!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 10:55 PM (omVj0)

150 YD,
I’m sorry. Lucy the Fink is only 12. I can’t stand the thought of losing her.

How is your little girl? Does she think she’s 16 yet? Attitude? Allthat and a bag of chips?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 10:55 PM (mT+6a)

151 Wassup bulg?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 10:55 PM (RIvkX)

152 Continuing, Tarantino is simply a reflection of today's dark society.
The expression began with Freddie Kruger.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:55 PM (Ri+6K)

153 Corn dogs >> Hot Dogs any style

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:56 PM (VofaG)

154 My 20 year old cat died last week. She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Sorry, buddy. Our cat is also 20. She's been having more off days than on.

Funny how attached you get to these feline divas.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 10:56 PM (0aYVJ)

155 140 Bongino and Bondi eloped to the Kerguelens, and Elon became the leader of the Bahais.

Or I could be making all this up…

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:56 PM (77rzZ)

156 . She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Oh my gosh, YD, I am so very sorry.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 11, 2025 10:56 PM (Ezs10)

157 >>>Not even close.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor
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That's what a friend told me. She quit quick.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:57 PM (Ri+6K)

158 I'm less interested in getting hyped about what's "going to happen", and more into "show me the accomplishment."
Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 10:50 PM (zLwRl)

I was at that point sometime around three months into the new Administration. I figured by April something would happen, someone -- anyone -- would be arrested for the plethora of crimes that have been committed by multiple people.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 10:57 PM (gKDq2)

159 Hi everyone,

First, I want to thank everyone who has donated to Ciampino's cremation fund so far. Your generosity means so much to us.

[Link to Ciampino's fund: https://t.co/NfEjq7HEkV]

I've also posted an update (#319) to our cat fund.

[Link to cat fund: https://t.co/iS8XTjbmSR]

On a personal note, I finally received my wheelchair today after over a year of trying to get one! I really wish Dad were here to see me no longer limited in where I can go around town.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 11, 2025 10:57 PM (sPQoU)

160 It a Tarantino flick. All Tarantino flicks are sick. Tarantino is one sick dude.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:54 PM

Blue Velvet is David Lynch.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (TdCYS)

161 Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (NH274)

162 How is your little girl? Does she think she’s 16 yet? Attitude? Allthat and a bag of chips?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 10:55 PM (mT+6a)

She's sitting up late, watching Cobra with me while her mom is visiting with a girlfriend in Nashville. Good times.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (BI5O2)

163
#twoweeks
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

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I just set a two-week reminder for myself to set a two-week reminder.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (UmB+t)

164 "Doesn't make saying goodbye any easier."

never does, never will

in the immortal words ... " la la la la life goes on"

at least for all of us lucky ones ... amirite?

... consider ... the alternative ...

sorry for your (and everyone's) loss.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:59 PM (dKEEs)

165 Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (NH274)
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I just had a cheesy dog earlier this evening.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 10:59 PM (XZ5S6)

166 I'm putting Mildred Pierce on, which I hate-watch because it is so awful and I hear it was Joan Crawford's comeback film.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

After you watch it, go to youtube and find Carol Burnetts parody.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2025 10:59 PM (0Htd1)

167 Blue Velvet was David Lynch

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 10:59 PM (RIvkX)

168 Without listing them, I would eat 14 of those dogs.

And no cats.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2025 10:59 PM (rvwwT)

169 151 Not much, San Fran. Just enjoying Friday night.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:59 PM (77rzZ)

170 Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (NH274)

Who let the commie in?

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:00 PM (gKDq2)

171 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 10:55 PM (omVj0)

Indeed! I am looking forward to the skirmishes of a several myself! One in particular will come bounding across that bridge to see me, get within 2 feet, then sit down and lick her paws as if she couldn't care less. I miss her so much.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 11, 2025 11:00 PM (Ezs10)

172 “Studios then were often as bad in their way as studios are now: They buy a property they like, thinking it will be a hit, and proceed immediately to change it.”
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

One of the most amusing (at least to me) is the Bogart movie “To have and Have Not”. Howard Hawks and his studio bought the rights to Hemingway’s novel of that name, and the very first thing they did was to toss out everything Hemingway wrote and instead turn it into Casablanca in the Caribbean.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 11:00 PM (Hlfhp)

173 My 20 year old cat died last week. She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (BI5O2)

So sorry to read about the loss of your cat. She reached a good age. You'll see her again.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 11, 2025 11:01 PM (sPQoU)

174 49 Just got back from Detroit. The Michigan dog is callled Detroit coney dog. Just saying.
Posted by: Lurking Cheshirecat

It's supposed to have onions.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 11, 2025 11:01 PM (0Htd1)

175 Gore-Gone would be a great name for product to clean up murder scenes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 10:44 PM

It would also be a great product to get rid of disinformation about "global warming".

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 11:01 PM (HlyYF)

176 Hi, Joyenz. Welcome!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:01 PM (77rzZ)

177 When I was little, we used to get hot dogs from this guy who had a little stand attached to his house. Pretty much how he spent his retirement. Just sat there selling hot dogs. Damn fine hot dogs, too.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 11, 2025 11:01 PM (OGOaV)

178 My 20 year old cat died last week. She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (BI5O2)

I’m sorry for you. A couple years ago we lost a cat that had been with us 19 years, longest lived pet we’d ever had, or ever will most likely. They become part of you when you’re with them that long.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025

***
YD, Tom, remember your friends as they were, not some idealized vision of them. That, to remember them without rose-colored glasses, I think is to do them the honor they deserve.

Big red tabby Arizona and I knew from Day Two that he was My Cat and I was His Human, and there was never any question of either. But he was occasionally difficult and distant, gave me hell when it came vet time, disliked other cats, etc. He was what he was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 11:02 PM (omVj0)

179 Where we are at:

"We have convicted Ghislaine Maxwell for 5 counts of trafficking underage girls."

"Who did she traffic them to?"

"No one."

Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 11:02 PM (6BNWj)

180 I'm not eating any Jimmy Dean Bowels, nor Hot dogs from Peruvia.

Posted by: Delicate Disposition at July 11, 2025 11:02 PM (G5+As)

181 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (BI5O2)

Weird. Just got the Cobra blu-ray yesterday. I was just loading it into the player when I read that.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 11, 2025 11:02 PM (TdCYS)

182 Just wanted to point out that Pitfall! was an Activision game, not an Atarisoft game, so it shouldn't have that box-art layout.

(Yeah, I'm that fucking guy. But I won't be able to sleep unless I say something.)
Posted by: Rusty Nail

Actually, image search shows a box like the one in the meme for the Latin American version of the game, which Atari licensed (or licensed back?) from Activision.

You're correct that the first-world version was a green Activision box, though.

Posted by: Wesley Crusher at July 11, 2025 11:02 PM (DgGvY)

183
I have to gone to 3 different groups, 3 separate issues, each time thinking we were going to exchange tips, tricks, encourage each other. Brought a brand new pen and notebook set, to house all the excellent information that would be shared.

Not even close.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

==============

That's too bad. What about online support? It's more targeted. My mom got some good tips from fellow sufferers when she had shingles. She even got a kick out of "talking" to people from the UK.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 11:02 PM (UmB+t)

184 It would also be a great product to get rid of disinformation about "global warming".
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 11:01 PM (HlyYF)

Hah! I'll bet some masseuse in Seattle wishes she'd had a barrel of it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 11:03 PM (NQI1v)

185 She's sitting up late, watching Cobra with me while her mom is visiting with a girlfriend in Nashville. Good times.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

So good to hear. I remember how much you worried. Even before she was born. You’re such a good dad. Thank you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 11:03 PM (mT+6a)

186 Tammy,
Sorry, gotta suck.
Regular buds?

Posted by: MkY at July 11, 2025 11:04 PM (cPGH3)

187 Chili dogs are my favorite

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:04 PM (+qU29)

188 161 Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 11, 2025 10:58 PM (NH274)

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That's why you have to get the cheese-infused hot dogs.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 11, 2025 11:04 PM (OGOaV)

189 They call them coneys in the Syracuse, NY area.

Posted by: Excelsior! at July 11, 2025 11:04 PM (G5+As)

190 Hi, Joyenz. Welcome!
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:01 PM (77rzZ)

Hi Bulg, thanks for the welcome.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 11, 2025 11:05 PM (sPQoU)

191 I like corn relish on a hot dog, but you can't find it round here.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 11:05 PM (XZ5S6)

192 Well, I got the three molded clutch pistons I need for my transmission overhaul. Had to got to Calgary to get them, and the price was only a few dollars more than Amazon, and I have them right now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 11:06 PM (NQI1v)

193 true dat Tammy; I never posted anything; I was kind of embarrassed to have a relatively uneventful stoma, well managed (by Mrs, mostly), that got reversed when everything lower-abdominal settled down.

rly g'night now?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 11:06 PM (dKEEs)

194 172. Fine with me. Hoagie Carmichael improved everything, and made any flick he was in worth watching.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:06 PM (77rzZ)

195 Our cats will be waiting for us on the other side of the Rainbow Bridge and they will be hungry.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:06 PM (RIvkX)

196 They call them coneys in the Syracuse, NY area.
Posted by: Excelsior! at July 11, 2025 11:04 PM (G5+As)

Syracuse isn't anywhere near Coney Island.

Now, Heid's is a different story. They still call 'em Coney's though.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 11, 2025 11:07 PM (0eaVi)

197 Cheesy dogs give me the squirts.

Posted by: President Emeritus at July 11, 2025 11:07 PM (G5+As)

198 Hah! I'll bet some masseuse in Seattle wishes she'd had a barrel of it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 11:03 PM

Well in her case, she could have used the generic version ... a 55 gallon drum of HCl.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 11:07 PM (HlyYF)

199 71 Farquad - What is your location?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 10:27 PM (XeU6L)

Eastern Georgia

Posted by: Farquad at July 11, 2025 11:07 PM (yqgaV)

200 We did well with cats, with one exception.

Mouse, a Russian Blue died when she was just past 2 years. Feline Leukemia.
Bug, the calico was 17
Mischa, gray tuxedo, was nearly 21
Scout, the black demon kitteh, is 20.

We have decided, though, no more cats. When we get our retirement home, it's gonna be goggies.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 11:08 PM (0aYVJ)

201 "Has one person throwing rocks at moving police cars been arrested and charged with assault?"

The guy who was video'd doing that at the Paramount (part of LA area) chapter of the initial festivities over ICE actions in LA was being sought, don't know if they collared him.

Various individuals have been arrested for interference, and I think assault, at some of the small melees involving ICE.

Issue here is same as I noted in connection with Trump's "SLIMEBALLS" post (I hereby give it that title, for posterity) - tactical situation, and numbers. ICE is there to get their illegal targets, that's it. They often don't have the force or set-up to also grab some of the idiots - some times they do. Do it will depend.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 11:08 PM (1m82a)

202 Not a big hot dog eater. I like smokie dogs, with kraut and hot mustard. A sliver of real cheese, like Cheddar, or Swiss would not be amiss. That orange plastic shite, nope.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 11:08 PM (NQI1v)

203 I'm disappointed they didn't include the Fire Island Dog. It's very popular in my circle.

Posted by: Mayor Chestfeeder at July 11, 2025 11:08 PM (dDmld)

204 The weird thing about the Asian woman taping the girls phone to her face for having it out at the dinner table is that someone else at the dinner table was recording it on their phone.

Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (6BNWj)

205 "So it will depend", that is.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (1m82a)

206 Big red tabby Arizona and I knew from Day Two that he was My Cat and I was His Human, and there was never any question of either. But he was occasionally difficult and distant, gave me hell when it came vet time, disliked other cats, etc. He was what he was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 11:02 PM (omVj0)

I had a cat named Feline, a black long haired cat who always held her tail up high like a flag. Had a very hard early life and really hated people, would hiss and spit at almost everyone - but I had been kind to her, and she decided that she loved me and hated everyone else. It was really astounding and strange to me, I’d never before (and probably never will again) have a pet so personally devoted to me, to the exclusion of all others.
There were plenty of stories about her, she passed away a few years ago, but on her terms.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (Hlfhp)

207 I like corn relish on a hot dog, but you can't find it round here.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 11:05 PM (XZ5S6)

I have never heard of corn relish for a hot dog. From what part of this great Land does that hail?

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (gKDq2)

208 She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Sorry to hear that man. 20 years is a good run.
I had a cat live to 21 and the last year was rough.
I hope you find some peace and see your cat again someday.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (xcxpd)

209 179 Where we are at:

"We have convicted Ghislaine Maxwell for 5 counts of trafficking underage girls."

"Who did she traffic them to?"

"No one."
Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025

Epstein. She was convicted for trafficking to him. That is it.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:10 PM (pRpzT)

210 One of the most amusing (at least to me) is the Bogart movie “To have and Have Not”. Howard Hawks and his studio bought the rights to Hemingway’s novel of that name, and the very first thing they did was to toss out everything Hemingway wrote and instead turn it into Casablanca in the Caribbean.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025

***
The later film based on THaHN, The Breaking Point w/ John Garfield, was much more Hemingway-esque and a great deal more suspenseful.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 11:10 PM (omVj0)

211 I have never heard of corn relish for a hot dog. From what part of this great Land does that hail?
Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (gKDq2)
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Mostly a Midwest thing, I understand.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 11:10 PM (XZ5S6)

212 Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Kinda mandatory on a chili dog

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2025 11:10 PM (dfIr7)

213 I have never heard of corn relish for a hot dog. From what part of this great Land does that hail?
Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (gKDq2)

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In my neck of the woods all the corn gets used for gasoline.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 11:11 PM (dDmld)

214 15 - Costco dog - add some shredded cheese and it's perfect!
From the chart, Michigan, Baltimore, Idaho, Memphis all sound interesting but are not Correct.

(In case you're wondering, ketchup on hot dog is Wrong if you're over the age of 12. Onions are not something I enjoy on hot dogs usually, but can be okay in small amounts or light flavor.)

Many of the others are either technically incorrect (kolache != hot dog), or look like someone took an existing dish and swapped in a hot dog, or just threw stuff together with no accounting for whether the tastes flow correctly.

Posted by: RandomDave at July 11, 2025 11:11 PM (aJQbY)

215 She was a good cat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

I am so sorry. I love my crazy kitties, it’s so hard losing pets.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:11 PM (pRpzT)

216 190 Joyenz, your Dad was a great part of this site. I’m sure that you will be too, as much as you choose to join us.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:11 PM (77rzZ)

217 Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2025 11:11 PM (bss/y)

218 The weird thing about the Asian woman taping the girls phone to her face for having it out at the dinner table is that someone else at the dinner table was recording it on their phone.
Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 11:09 PM (6BNWj)
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Hrrrmm...

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (0aYVJ)

219 One of the most amusing (at least to me) is the Bogart movie “To have and Have Not”. Howard Hawks and his studio bought the rights to Hemingway’s novel of that name, and the very first thing they did was to toss out everything Hemingway wrote and instead turn it into Casablanca in the Caribbean.

I love that movie, such a classic. You're usually better off just taking a basic plot from Hemingway and doing it better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (dfIr7)

220 My favorite hotdog is a Hebrew National on a bun with yellow mustard, wrapped in a paper towel and nuked for 30 to 45 seconds.

Pug, your dog is my dog, except I leave the roll outside the microwave.
Naked dog from freezer straight to microwave, 45 seconds. Use the roll to pick it up, its hot, then slather yellow or spicy brown mustard.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (n4GiU)

221 Many of the others are either technically incorrect (kolache != hot dog), or look like someone took an existing dish and swapped in a hot dog, or just threw stuff together with no accounting for whether the tastes flow correctly.
Posted by: RandomDave at July 11, 2025 11:11 PM (aJQbY)
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Excessive complication.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (XZ5S6)

222 146 It a Tarantino flick. All Tarantino flicks are sick. Tarantino is one sick dude.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:54 PM (Ri+6K)

Blue Velvet is David Lynch.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (/BLT9)

223 187 Chili dogs are my favorite

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:04 PM

+1 vote with Skip

Actually +2. Daughter #2 had some pretty severe stomach issues in 2nd and 3rd grade. However, a chili cheese dog would soak up all of her stomach acid.

If she was having a bad day at school, she would run home and I would make her a quick chili dog (and one for dad).

Must have been good comfort food, because if we go out to eat a family dinner at a place that offers chili dogs, she still orders them at age 25!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (HlyYF)

224
One of the most amusing (at least to me) is the Bogart movie “To have and Have Not”. Howard Hawks and his studio bought the rights to Hemingway’s novel of that name, and the very first thing they did was to toss out everything Hemingway wrote and instead turn it into Casablanca in the Caribbean.
Posted by: Tom Servo

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So many tales like that. I watched The Goldfinch to see just how they were going to cram that book into a single feature, and it's like they had someone write a one-page double-spaced plot summary, randomly subtracted key adjectives and added "not" before some words, and shot that.

No one has ever had the inclination to make Wuthering Heights properly either, which gets my back up because there's a production underway right now. Starring as 18-year-old chestnut-locks in the year 1783 Catherine Earnshaw is... Margot Robbie. A publicity pic has been released of her wedding to Edgar Linton. She's wide (just had a baby irl), looking all of 34, dressed in some gown that's 1983 fashion.

Sometimes I hate Hollywood.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (UmB+t)

225 I don’t even know the last time I ate a hot dog. It was a very, very long time ago.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (pRpzT)

226 Issue here is same as I noted in connection with Trump's "SLIMEBALLS" post (I hereby give it that title, for posterity) - tactical situation, and numbers. ICE is there to get their illegal targets, that's it. They often don't have the force or set-up to also grab some of the idiots - some times they do. Do it will depend.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 11:08 PM (1m82a)

Just have a team of snipers work with the ICE team when they are on a raid. Set them up where the have a commanding view of the venue, and have them go to work when the on-site ICE commander radios in, "we are taking fire from the crazies; go ahead and shoot any you see making menacing moves."

That would not have to happen many times before antifa found a new hobby.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (NQI1v)

227 I used spicy lime pickle on the other hot dog I had this evening.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (XZ5S6)

228 I don't care what anyone puts on a hotdog. Nothing is 'wrong'. Eat what you like, fuck anyone who says otherwise.

*Glares at Chicago*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (xcxpd)

229 Isn't To Have and Have Not the premier of Lauren Bacall? "Put your lips together, and blow"?

Anyway, whichever movie that was, don't care about the novel or much else. Even with the film quality of the era, she was hotter than the Trinity site early morning of July 16, 1945.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (1m82a)

230 All the old badness of that era, plus some of the badness that pervades all movie eras. And Joan Crawford was a gorgon and not that great an actress.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Check out the Crawford movie "Johnny Guitar" (1952). It is a great film and she is very good in it. Brilliant color and cinematography, to boot.

Posted by: Gene Shellfish, NBC at July 11, 2025 11:14 PM (G5+As)

231 *can't even with Wesley*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:14 PM (RIvkX)

232 t was a dark and stormy night... no, really, it's epically storming out there and Pookette is up and journaling.
Posted by: pookysgirl knows that the sea is full of angry monkeys at July 11, 2025 10:44 PM (PPB1b)

Send some of that rain my way. I'm at 1.85 inches for the year and the monsoon is supposed to be in full swing.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 11, 2025 11:14 PM (VsYDF)

233 I occasionally have cheese on a hotdog

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:14 PM (+qU29)

234 Mostly a Midwest thing, I understand.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 11:10 PM (XZ5S6)

I really like corn dogs (when I can get them), with a stream of yellow mustard on the length, so why not corn relish? Just depends on what they put in it. I can see a red or hot pepper/onion/corn relish. I just don't need no carrots, shaved, grated or otherwise.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:14 PM (gKDq2)

235 Hey, Piper.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:15 PM (77rzZ)

236 Looking forward to tomorrow. Tear-assing around in Idaho. I kinda like this place.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 11:15 PM (0aYVJ)

237 >>>Was it worth it, fellah? Was it worth it?

How high a body count will ICE rack up before they're done? How high a count?

(Betting pool is open; see the bartender.)
Posted by: mindful webworker - you could say he got roofied?
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Speculating: Those of potential value, to the nation, as a resident will self deport, those that are not will hide and try to stay.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 11:15 PM (Ri+6K)

238 220 My favorite hotdog is a Hebrew National on a bun with yellow mustard, wrapped in a paper towel and nuked for 30 to 45 seconds.

Pug, your dog is my dog, except I leave the roll outside the microwave.
Naked dog from freezer straight to microwave, 45 seconds. Use the roll to pick it up, its hot, then slather yellow or spicy brown mustard.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (n4GiU)

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I use Hebrew Nationals, too. I put them in a vegetable steamer basket, and steam them for about 5 minutes or so. In the last 30 seconds, I'll add a bun. Perfection, every time.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 11, 2025 11:15 PM (OGOaV)

239 195 Our cats will be waiting for us on the other side of the Rainbow Bridge and they will be hungry.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:06 PM

I wonder if they have slow and abundant mice on the other side of that bridge?

I am pretty sure I have seen a few of our cats contemplating that very possibility when they are napping in a sunbeam with their paws twitching.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 11:15 PM (HlyYF)

240 Kinda mandatory on a chili dog
Huh? Carolina dog, AKA Mountaineer dog, has chili but no cheese.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 11, 2025 11:16 PM (NH274)

241 I don’t even know the last time I ate a hot dog. It was a very, very long time ago.
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (pRpzT)
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July 4. Of course.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:16 PM (RIvkX)

242 20 years for a cat is a good run, ours ,(sisters) lived 17 and 19

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:16 PM (+qU29)

243 Most of my cats have lived to be about thirteen, except for Arizona -- sixteen and a half -- and Tatiana the Wonder Siberian, whose heart gave out on her when she was not quite four years old. She lived that forty-five months intensely, playing hard and learning every day -- almost as if she knew she did not have much time on this Earth and wanted to get in as much living, as much fun and experience, as she could.

Oh, and Chekov D. Siberian, the Ailing Codger Cat as I called him here during his last six months. He got to fourteen and a half.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 11:17 PM (omVj0)

244 200
We have decided, though, no more cats. When we get our retirement home, it's gonna be goggies.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 11:08 PM (0aYVJ)

You can have both! My cats are training my dog. 😃

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:17 PM (pRpzT)

245 Hey, Pillage.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:17 PM (77rzZ)

246 168 Without listing them, I would eat 14 of those dogs.

And no cats.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 11, 2025 10:59 PM (rvwwT)

You have to go to a Chinese restaurant for cat, and most of them don't serve hit dogs.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:18 PM (/BLT9)

247 YD, Coldstream, my sympathies. It's always hard to lose them. >^..^<

Posted by: Barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 11, 2025 11:18 PM (13zOx)

248 241 I don’t even know the last time I ate a hot dog. It was a very, very long time ago.
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (pRpzT)
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July 4. Of course.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:16 PM (RIvkX)

Nope. I did eat a hamburger though! Not even a veggie burger. A real beef one.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:18 PM (pRpzT)

249 The weird thing about the Asian woman taping the girls phone to her face for having it out at the dinner table is that someone else at the dinner table was recording it on their phone.
Posted by: Harsh Truth

She's next!

Posted by: The Bearer of the Tape at July 11, 2025 11:18 PM (DgGvY)

250 In my neck of the woods all the corn gets used for gasoline.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 11:11 PM (dDmld)

What little corn grew in Southwest Virginia went for 'shine.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (gKDq2)

251 225 I don’t even know the last time I ate a hot dog. It was a very, very long time ago.
Posted by: Piper

I had one last Sunday at the ballpark with my oldest. Sumo Dog. Had some weird stuff on it including seaweed and wasabi Mayo. It was pretty good!

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (mT+6a)

252 Hebrew National Franks are da bomb for this Protestant Christian.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (77rzZ)

253 I love that movie, such a classic. You're usually better off just taking a basic plot from Hemingway and doing it better.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (dfIr7)

You are right, what Howard Hawks filmed was much better than what Hemingway wrote.
And that was the very beginning of Lauren Bacall’s career.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (Hlfhp)

254 Hi, Bulg!

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (pRpzT)

255 I don't care what anyone puts on a hotdog. Nothing is 'wrong'. Eat what you like, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
*Glares at Chicago*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:13

Yes indeed MarkAE. I was surprised to find that my preference was matched by a KC dog. You need kraut and swiss but they forgot ketchup, also required.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at July 11, 2025 11:20 PM (55Qr6)

256 Hey, Pookysgirl!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:49 PM (77rzZ)

Hey. I meant to axe you something the other day but forgot what it was. Sleep meds are kicking in and I'm hoping Lil Pooky doesn't pull his Dutch act again tonight (he hates change).

I will leave you all with my favorite Dutch joke: How many Dutchmen does it take to change a lightbulb?

Change? CHANGE?!

Posted by: pookysgirl is less than half Dutch at July 11, 2025 11:20 PM (PPB1b)

257 There used to be a great hot dog place in Portland called Good Dog/Bad Dog. I was partial to their Magma Dog (spicy sausage + chili).

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 11:20 PM (XZ5S6)

258 Blue Velvet is David Lynch.
Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (/BLT9)

That was a major favorite amongst the Charlie 102nd MI troops.

I was Alpha. We looked down upon those heathens.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 11, 2025 11:21 PM (VsYDF)

259
Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

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I would have thought so until I said wth I'll try that once in a little stand that is no more. It was a chili dog with parmesan. NOW HANG ON. The chili was like none I've had elsewhere, ground beef chopped verrrrry small, nothing else biteable so it was almost like a sauce. Then finely ground Parmigiano Reggiano dusted across it. It was a revelation that I have not been able to re-create.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 11:21 PM (UmB+t)

260 252 Hebrew National Franks are da bomb for this Protestant Christian.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (77rzZ)

Oh yeah that’s all I buy! When my grandson visits he loves to have weenie roasts over our fire pit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 11:21 PM (Hlfhp)

261 Cats should NOT train dogs. It’s contrary to nature and ain’t right.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:22 PM (77rzZ)

262 *Glares at Chicago*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:13 PM (xcxpd)

Just like 'Cinncinnatuh Chili' isn't chili, neither is a 'Chicago Hot Dog' a hot dog. It's a fancy salad. Bread (croutons), lots of veggies, some meat. Eat it with a knife and fork, kids.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:23 PM (gKDq2)

263 'Bout time I wandered off to bed. 'Til the Tech Thread, all. Enjoy your Friday night.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 11:23 PM (omVj0)

264 I don't care what anyone puts on a hotdog. Nothing is 'wrong'. Eat what you like, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
*Glares at Chicago*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:13
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It's this kind of "Anything Goes" liberal hippie attitude that got this country into the mess its in!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:23 PM (RIvkX)

265 You can have both! My cats are training my dog. 😃
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:17 PM (pRpzT)

I would be fine having feral cats around in our future retirement place. But we love to travel, and there are not a lot of cat-friendly motels out there.

In all honesty, we will likely do without a critter for a few years, because we love to travel. Spur-of-the-moment road trips. Can't do that with a geriatric kitty.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 11:23 PM (0aYVJ)

266
The weird thing about the Asian woman taping the girls phone to her face for having it out at the dinner table is that someone else at the dinner table was recording it on their phone.
Posted by: Harsh Truth

She's next!
Posted by: The Bearer of the Tape

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It's like a scary found footage movie. As the mother grabs the tape and advances on camera girl, camera girl passes the phone to another girl...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 11:24 PM (UmB+t)

267 251 I had one last Sunday at the ballpark with my oldest. Sumo Dog. Had some weird stuff on it including seaweed and wasabi Mayo. It was pretty good!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (mT+6a)

I really like nori, it’s just the hotdog part.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:25 PM (pRpzT)

268 Have some hotdogs left from earlier this week. Need fast serving or leftovers to have just before I leave for work

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:25 PM (+qU29)

269 261 Cats should NOT train dogs. It’s contrary to nature and ain’t right.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:22 PM (77rzZ)

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Our cat raised our dog. When she was younger, our dog would stalk birds. And to this day, she "bathes" herself by licking her paw, and running it down her snout.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 11, 2025 11:26 PM (OGOaV)

270 My wife loved that taping the phone to the face video. She is always supremely pissed off if anyone pulls a phone out and starts paying attention to it while we’re all eating together. So she would be that mom all the way.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 11:26 PM (Hlfhp)

271 Cats should NOT train dogs. It’s contrary to nature and ain’t right.
Posted by: Bulg

Our cat raised our dog. When she was younger, our dog would stalk birds. And to this day, she "bathes" herself by licking her paw, and running it down her snout.
Posted by: No One of Consequence

I think I've said this on the ONT before, but I had a friend who had an older cat, and then got a puppy. Who learned how to fight from the cat. He'd roll onto his back and try to grab with all four paws.

Extra-hilarious because it was a dachshund.

Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 11:29 PM (DgGvY)

272 We have a new cat. Black with a little white chest spt. It arrived the day before Dad passed. He did get to see a picture of the cat.

Luna is also a black cat with a small chest spot. She showed up soon after Mom passed away. She was pregnant with Cole and Ashley. Whether cat or human passes, a new cat either shows up right before or right after.

Posted by: Joyenz at July 11, 2025 11:29 PM (sPQoU)

273 265
In all honesty, we will likely do without a critter for a few years, because we love to travel. Spur-of-the-moment road trips. Can't do that with a geriatric kitty.
Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel

Yeah, that makes sense. We are going on vacation this week, and with the add of the dog, we are just having our pet sitter stay at the house. We haven’t left him alone and I feel like boarding him would be too traumatic at this stage. So overnight pet sitter it is! Not conducive to just up and leaving when you have to arrange all that.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:29 PM (pRpzT)

274 I really like corn dogs (when I can get them), with a stream of yellow mustard on the length, so why not corn relish? Just depends on what they put in it. I can see a red or hot pepper/onion/corn relish. I just don't need no carrots, shaved, grated or otherwise.
Posted by: RickZ

Corn dogs are awesome!!!!

There was a corn dog truck at the top of Snoqualmie Pass where we would stop after a day of snow skiing with the boys. She hand dipped the dogs on a stick into her corn bread batter and then into the hot oil.

Pulled them out and handed to you with a paper protector on the bottom of the stick to keep the hot oil from burning your hand. Add mustard or ketchup as needed and burn tf out of your mouth eating them.

So awesome. And great memories.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 11:29 PM (mT+6a)

275 I assume almost every video on YouTube is a set up

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:29 PM (+qU29)

276 Huh? Carolina dog, AKA Mountaineer dog, has chili but no cheese.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 11, 2025 11:16 PM (NH274)

When you mention 'Mountaineer', there's apparently a dog people in West Virginia like with coleslaw, maybe mustard and nothing else. Coleslaw has a place (hello pulled pork sandwiches!), but not on a hot dog.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:30 PM (gKDq2)

277 I had a cat that raised a kitten that turned out fat, stupid, and drooling. Very sweet but very dumb.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:31 PM (RIvkX)

278 256 LOL, Pookysgirl. And I am a Dutchman.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:31 PM (77rzZ)

279 @PeterSweden7

Europe in 2025.

▪️ French police raided the party headquarters of the main opposition 🇫🇷
▪️ Britain is arresting over 12.000 people every year for social media posts 🇬🇧
▪️A state in Germany just banned members of the main opposition party AfD from working in civil service 🇩🇪
▪️Norwegian police tried to enter my house for no reason and interrogated me after I exposed how leaders in a religious cult were involved in what many consider to be grooming of young girls 🇳🇴

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 11:31 PM (Ri+6K)

280 Send some of that rain my way. I'm at 1.85 inches for the year and the monsoon is supposed to be in full swing.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 11, 2025 11:14 PM (VsYDF)

When the monsoon hits southern Arizona, it hits hard. I know from personal experience. And then the high desert greens up until winter. It's a weird sight.

Posted by: Farquad at July 11, 2025 11:32 PM (yqgaV)

281 261 Cats should NOT train dogs. It’s contrary to nature and ain’t right.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:22 PM (77rzZ)

He is a Shiba Inu, so it’s not like he is a dog dog.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:32 PM (pRpzT)

282 I don't care what anyone puts on a hotdog. Nothing is 'wrong'. Eat what you like, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
*Glares at Chicago*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:13
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It's this kind of "Anything Goes" liberal hippie attitude that got this country into the mess its in!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:23 PM (RIvkX)

Love for ketchup on hotdogs is all-American and not hippie nonsense.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:33 PM (xcxpd)

283 Stone-ground mustard rules

Posted by: Zeera at July 11, 2025 11:33 PM (zPuD7)

284 Frigging hotdog talk. Now I'm craving some dirty water dogs.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 11:34 PM (snZF9)

285
Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

Mom used to slice a dog down the middle and stuff it with Velveeta. Then she would take a strip of bacon and wrap it around the dog securing it with toothpicks.

Then into the oven. Don't know the temp or duration.
That was a treat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 11:34 PM (63Dwl)

286 Extra-hilarious because it was a dachshund.
Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 11:29 PM (DgGvY)

LOL! Having been around dachshunds, that's just a funny image.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:35 PM (gKDq2)

287 253 I love that movie, such a classic. You're usually better off just taking a basic plot from Hemingway and doing it better.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (dfIr7)

You are right, what Howard Hawks filmed was much better than what Hemingway wrote.
And that was the very beginning of Lauren Bacall’s career.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 11:19 PM (Hlfhp)

And it started the Bogart/Becall romance. Much to Howard Hawk's annoyance. He wanted to tap that but Becall fell hard for Bogart. And vice versa.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:35 PM (xcxpd)

288 >>>275 I assume almost every video on YouTube is a set up
Posted by: Skip
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Never seen so many smart cats or creative dogs.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 11:37 PM (Ri+6K)

289 Love for ketchup on hotdogs is all-American and not hippie nonsense.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:33 PM (xcxpd)
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OK, let's just not get crazy with the ketchup.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:37 PM (RIvkX)

290 I assume almost every video on YouTube is a set up
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:29 PM (+qU29)

Yeah. seemed kind of a set-up thing.

Still, I agree with the gist of it. Quit walking around with your dumb face looking at your dumb phone as you walk down the trail. It's a beautiful day, the skwerls are frolicking, and they are merry.

I also get the texts: why didn't you answer the phone when I called just now?

Because I am in my truck, driving. Aren't there laws about that and shit?

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 11:37 PM (0aYVJ)

291 284 Frigging hotdog talk. Now I'm craving some dirty water dogs.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

There are Sabrett cart vendors who have been using the same water to boil their dogs since the Lindsay Administration.

Posted by: Big Apple, Rotten To The Core at July 11, 2025 11:37 PM (G5+As)

292 Air India 171 report highlights as I found them in the actual report:

The flap handle was found to be firmly seated in the 5-degree flap position, consistent with a normal takeoff flap setting.

EAFR data revealed that the thrust levers remained forward (takeoff thrust) until the impact.

Both fuel control switch were found in the “RUN” position.

liftoff at 08:08:39

immediately [after 08:08:42], the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec.

the Engine 1 fuel cutoff switch transitioned from CUTOFF to RUN at about 08:08:52, [and the other at 08:08:56.]

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 11:37 PM (TwZXH)

293 I watched Mildred Pierce on TCM with my late mother once, when she was 80 or so.

I think I hurt her feelings a little when I burst out laughing.

We watched a lot of fine classic films together, which we both enjoyed. But Mildred Pierce? I couldn't help myself.

Posted by: mnw at July 11, 2025 11:37 PM (kd60y)

294 My experience with medical support groups… I have to gone to 3 different groups, 3 separate issues, each time thinking we were going to exchange tips, tricks, encourage each other.… Not even close.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor

Heh. I can imagine. I've had a colostomy bag for six months, then after more surgery, now an ileostomy for fifteen months and counting.

A while back, I found out about a local ostomy support group. I tried to imagine what kind of support I'd get, what would we discuss? "So, do you prefer the clip, the valve, or the velcro closer?" And… things too yuck to joke about on here.

I get by because I have to. Don't like it but since I was thisclose to dying before the first surgery, I'm quite grateful to be alive, whatever $#!+ I have to deal with. MiladyJo is my support group, and expert nurse, so I am greatly blessed.

Might even get sewn back together one day, God willing. Repairs are… delayed.

And on that oversharing note, I take my leave for the night. At least in my dreams, I don't have that stuff.

G'nite, y'all.

Posted by: mindful webworker - still alive and kicking at July 11, 2025 11:38 PM (+kBwA)

295 I guess I’m gonna hafta call it a night. G’night and sleep well, All.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:38 PM (77rzZ)

296 Love for ketchup on hotdogs is all-American and not hippie nonsense.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:33 PM (xcxpd)

Ketchup on a dog is okay for kids up to about 8-years-old. After that, they graduate to mustard.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:38 PM (gKDq2)

297 253 I love that movie, such a classic. You're usually better off just taking a basic plot from Hemingway and doing it better.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 11, 2025 11:12 PM (dfIr7)

You are right, what Howard Hawks filmed was much better than what Hemingway wrote.
And that was the very beginning of Lauren Bacall’s career.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I watch that movie more times than any other.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 11:39 PM (Ri+6K)

298 Speaking of hotdogs, 2 times have cooked them at work using my halogen lights. Wrapped in foil, open up and stick them in the protective cage. Just like those in rotisserie. A 250 watt light will cook them quick

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:39 PM (+qU29)

299 About the DIY leg:
My mother's book club exchanged unusual pink elephant gifts for their Christmas party, and she found and artificial leg (knee length) at a thrift store for her gift one year.

A friend wrote a poem to go with the gift at the Christmas party: "Put your best foot forward"

Posted by: KT at July 11, 2025 11:40 PM (xekrU)

300 There is a picture on Shirley Booth's wikipedia page of her and Bogart embracing in a Broadway play from 1925. He looks like a yoot.

Posted by: Triple Crown of Acting at July 11, 2025 11:41 PM (G5+As)

301 AAFES (military base concessionaires) had a little outlet in one of the barracks at Ft. Lewis, they had chili cheese dogs, but I liked the flourescent cheese sauce topped over and nacho corn chips, trailer trash cuisine, a gustatory tour de force. Arteriosclerotic Nirvana. In those days, Jack in the Box had a killer baconator burger or something like that - and spicy curly fries. Being young-er could eat just about anything (or thought I could). It makes me sad that even our junk food, as bad as it was, was at least addicitvely tasty. I mean, if you’re gonna pork out to 287, it ought to at least taste good.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2025 11:41 PM (X3SL3)

302 Heading out to see the sunset on the beach.

Take care, morons!!!!

Xoxoxo

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 11:42 PM (mT+6a)

303 285
Cheese should never be on a hotdog. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent

Mom used to slice a dog down the middle and stuff it with Velveeta. Then she would take a strip of bacon and wrap it around the dog securing it with toothpicks.

Then into the oven. Don't know the temp or duration.
That was a treat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 11:34 PM (63Dwl)

My dad did the same thing when I was a kid. Only when mom was out for one reason or another on a weekend, so it wasn't often, but my sister and I loved it. He had to use Kraft singles, though, since my mom was a bit boring when it came to grocery shopping at the commissary. Good memories.

Posted by: Farquad at July 11, 2025 11:42 PM (yqgaV)

304 Frigging hotdog talk. Now I'm craving some dirty water dogs.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

There are Sabrett cart vendors who have been using the same water to boil their dogs since the Lindsay Administration.

Posted by: Big Apple, Rotten To The Core at July 11, 2025 11:37 PM (G5+As)

yeah well, not quite "that" dirty, lol.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 11:43 PM (snZF9)

305 "Cheese should never be on a hotdog."

Cheez Whiz is fine, and technically does not violate that rule.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 11:44 PM (TwZXH)

306 Interesting... Bill Gates family doctor from the 90's says Bill FORBID his children to get vaccinated...

Whoooppppsie....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2025 11:44 PM (mP0Kj)

307 I am off to bed, good night everyone.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:44 PM (pRpzT)

308 305 "Cheese should never be on a hotdog."

Cheez Whiz is fine, and technically does not violate that rule.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 11:44 PM (TwZXH)

We call Queso Cheezeo... does that count? because its good on hotdogs and brats... sometimes...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 11, 2025 11:45 PM (mP0Kj)

309
Both fuel control switch were found in the “RUN” position.

liftoff at 08:08:39

immediately [after 08:08:42], the Engine 1 and Engine 2 fuel cutoff switches transitioned from RUN to CUTOFF position one after another with a time gap of 01 sec.

the Engine 1 fuel cutoff switch transitioned from CUTOFF to RUN at about 08:08:52, [and the other at 08:08:56.]
Posted by: Hacked gp's
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Very, very strange. Obviously human engagement for both On and Off. Wonder if there is cockpit audio recording.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 11:45 PM (XeU6L)

310 Per the last thread: COMM, if you're here, a lot of us don't quite fit in. But it's a good place to be, anyway.

(Thanks,WD!)

Posted by: Barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at July 11, 2025 11:46 PM (13zOx)

311 My dad did the same thing when I was a kid. Only when mom was out for one reason or another on a weekend, so it wasn't often, but my sister and I loved it. He had to use Kraft singles, though, since my mom was a bit boring when it came to grocery shopping at the commissary. Good memories.
Posted by: Farquad at July 11, 2025 11:42 PM (yqgaV)

My Mom liked Velveeta because . . . shelf life. Depression Era mentality.

And it was a big block of better-than-government cheese which melted really well. Sometimes too well.

Now I don't touch the stuff.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:46 PM (gKDq2)

312 "Bill Gates family doctor from the 90's says Bill FORBID his children to get vaccinated"

Is a doctor allowed to disclose that?

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 11:46 PM (TwZXH)

313 I know they're really "white elephant"gifts, not pink, but these got pretty wild.

Posted by: KT at July 11, 2025 11:46 PM (xekrU)

314 Speaking of hotdogs, 2 times have cooked them at work using my halogen lights. Wrapped in foil, open up and stick them in the protective cage. Just like those in rotisserie. A 250 watt light will cook them quick

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 11:39 PM (+qU29)

When I was in electronics class we cooked some hot dogs with the push a nail into each end, wrap wire around each end and plug it into the wall method. It was to prove how you can get fried by electricity. The teacher says any questions? I said yeah, can we do burgers tomorrow? lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 11:47 PM (snZF9)

315 309 Yes. One pilot asks 'why did you cutoff?' The other says 'I didn't.'

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 11:47 PM (TwZXH)

316 If you like weens, there’s a channel called Norman the Weiner Dog on the Tube that is You that is pretty sweet. Mom does the usual dress up costume stuff I don’t care for, but she has about 500 vids put together, and he’s just a sweet little guy. They are great little snuggle buddies for sure. We had a black and tan miniature growing up, they are little characters for sure.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2025 11:50 PM (X3SL3)

317 When I was in electronics class we cooked some hot dogs with the push a nail into each end, wrap wire around each end and plug it into the wall method. It was to prove how you can get fried by electricity. The teacher says any questions? I said yeah, can we do burgers tomorrow? lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 11:47 PM (snZF9)

I tried that when I was in grade school. One, it left a metallic taste where the nails were, and two, the very ends of the dog didn't get cooked, and stayed cold. If you used graphite blocks pressed firmly against the ends of the dog, it might work well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 11:52 PM (xl/qI)

318 15 309 Yes. One pilot asks 'why did you cutoff?' The other says 'I didn't.'
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird
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Was he a muslim? India is having a problem with a muslim masquerader portraying himself as a mystic seeking to convert Hindu women to islam.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 11:53 PM (Ri+6K)

319 Costco dogs cooked in an air fryer for the win! Crispy goodness on the outside of the dog.

Posted by: DJ Jazzy Jeff at July 11, 2025 11:53 PM (ZTJjv)

320 245 Hey, Pillage.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:17 PM

Howdy!

Start new job yet?

I am still searching.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 11:54 PM (HlyYF)

321 People who think the goal of life is to convince everyone else they come in contact with that a seemingly outlandish and stupid idea is genius and worth consideration. Secretly, they are laughing at you when you accept their suggestion. This is how they enjoy themselves.

THIS IS HOW MONTREAL STARTED PUTTING CABBAGE ON HOT DOGS.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 11:55 PM (dIske)

322 After re-jetting the Honda for elevation, I was mortified that it wasn’t running correctly. Running off ECO mode, at standard RPM for direct battery charging purposes in particular it had a periodic stutter hiccup or hesitation.

Well the t had to be something I did, or didn’t do. Turns out that’s what I get for not wearing my peepers, needed for close in work. A carb gasket fell off and somehow it was installed backwards, and interfered with proper air flow naturally, or covered up an emulsion air bleed or somethin’. Attention to detail rock & rollers!

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2025 11:56 PM (im9tq)

323 The Next Deplorable Gourmet will have a section on homemade hot dog cookers and other kitchen cooking implements of dubious electrical construction. The gadgets will store perfectly on Ace's shelves.

Posted by: RickZ at July 11, 2025 11:57 PM (gKDq2)

324 Laredo Police also report that someone broke into the station and stole the toilet. So far they have nothing to go on.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 10:11 PM

What a crappy thing too do

Posted by: Javems at July 11, 2025 11:57 PM (8I4hW)

325 "Was he a muslim?"

I don't know. Report is here: https://tinyurl.com/4mrm263w
Only 15 pages. I'm actually surprised India released it to the public.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 11:58 PM (TwZXH)

326 Mike H., this is just based on glances at snippets, but in fact the cockpit audio recorded one pilot asking the other why he'd turned off the fuel switches, and the other pilot replied he hadn't. Think that's what was reported.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 12, 2025 12:01 AM (1m82a)

327 "India is having a problem with a muslim masquerader portraying himself as a mystic seeking to convert Hindu women to islam."

They had a pretty big problem with the barbaric attack at Pahalgam holiday spot a couple months ago. 26 innocents dead. The usual M.O.: they ask people to recite Islamic arglebargle, and when they cannot or will not, they shoot them DRT.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 12, 2025 12:02 AM (TwZXH)

328 So,

If there is nothing to reveal about the Epstein list,

Why did he kill himself? (NOT)

Why is his girlfriend in prison?

BONDI...you have done screwed the pooch Bigley and you are going to pay the price for this.

Posted by: Nightwatch at July 12, 2025 12:03 AM (25kuG)

329 @BRICSinfo . Jul 11

US President Trump to make a 'major statement' regarding Russia on Monday.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 12:03 AM (Ri+6K)

330 I vaguely remember my older brother cooking a dog with nails, extension cord, maybe part of a merit badge for Boy Scouts. Supervised by Dad. Mom was mortified, it stunk up the kitchen probably.

I was more impressed with the electric motor constructed from iron pipe, elbows, and a gazillion feet of insulated wire, with copper pennies for armature and the rest of it. Dad made all sorts of cool stuff for us kids, he never quite grew up I don’t believe.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2025 12:04 AM (im9tq)

331 Cats should NOT train dogs. It’s contrary to nature and ain’t right.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:22 PM (77rzZ)

He is a Shiba Inu, so it’s not like he is a dog dog.
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:32 PM (pRpzT)

Has he started his samurai training yet, or has he decided to become a ninja?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 12, 2025 12:04 AM (S/Y4j)

332 I cut Costco Polish Sausage in two so they fit better on standard hot dog buns.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 12, 2025 12:05 AM (kuWOS)

333 THIS IS HOW MONTREAL STARTED PUTTING CABBAGE ON HOT DOGS.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 11:55 PM (dIske)

Make that cabbage cole slaw and I think that sounds not too bad. Get a few carrots in there too if they didn't all go into the chili already.

Posted by: Sjg at July 12, 2025 12:05 AM (aqZN1)

334 I tried that when I was in grade school. One, it left a metallic taste where the nails were, and two, the very ends of the dog didn't get cooked, and stayed cold. If you used graphite blocks pressed firmly against the ends of the dog, it might work well.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 11:52 PM (xl/qI)

Ours worked pretty good, but we were using the power from our lab stations, so we might have cranked it up a bit. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 12, 2025 12:06 AM (snZF9)

335 SO!!!

Federal Agents taking down CHI-COM Pot Farms in Ventura Ca. no less. Run Gavin...Run!

Posted by: Nightwatch at July 12, 2025 12:09 AM (25kuG)

336 I believe Pam Bondi is gone by next week ......

Posted by: Mike Hunt at July 12, 2025 12:10 AM (BltCC)

337 China says it's willing to share military equipment achievements with friendly countries.
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India says, give it to Pakistan.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 12:10 AM (Ri+6K)

338 'Make that cabbage cole slaw'

I'm standing right here, you know.

Posted by: Sauerkraut at July 12, 2025 12:10 AM (TwZXH)

339 When I went to my first Texas MoMe I was intrigued by all of the signs advertising kolaches. I stopped and got one on the way to the airport on Sunday, I have gotten one every year since.

I also have memories of being drunk with a large group of friends leaving Fenway Park and toying with the idea of purchasing the last lonely hot dog floating around in a simmering tank of water and grease. Thankfully I was prevented from doing this.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 12, 2025 12:10 AM (0nHVk)

340 FART Tubing is the Future !!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggistein from Brattleboro, Vt at July 12, 2025 12:12 AM (p+utQ)

341 I don't care what anyone puts on a hotdog. Nothing is 'wrong'. Eat what you like, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
*Glares at Chicago*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at July 11, 2025 11:13
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It's this kind of "Anything Goes" liberal hippie attitude that got this country into the mess its in!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 11:23

Now I have to nominate San Sycho for a post of the week. This kind of incisive political insight, combined with culinary evaluation of hot dogs...is just what makes AOS such a special place.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at July 12, 2025 12:12 AM (55Qr6)

342 "I also have memories of being drunk with a large group of friends leaving Fenway Park and toying with the idea of purchasing the last lonely hot dog floating around in a simmering tank of water and grease. Thankfully I was prevented from doing this."

I wanted to jump in the tank and swim with the dog. Why my friends stopped me, I know not.

Posted by: Sauerkraut at July 12, 2025 12:13 AM (TwZXH)

343 At my local chili dog place, I never get cheese on the chili dog, because I know it's just two slices of American "cheese" for $1.50 (!) extra. But if I go to the hot dog place a few towns over, their chili is lousy, but the cheese is finely grated cheddar, and piled high on an all beef dog it's delicious.

Yes to cheese, chili or no chili, but only GOOD cheese, please.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at July 12, 2025 12:15 AM (TdCYS)

344 Off topping sock.

Posted by: Static In gp's Attic at July 12, 2025 12:15 AM (TwZXH)

345 I think Frank Zappa referenced the old starving musician hot dog once somewhere.

A hot dog, a fork and a gas stove.

Been there, done that.

Also, 101 economic additives to macaroni and cheese.

Posted by: pawn at July 12, 2025 12:16 AM (QB+5g)

346 hot dog? tldr

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 12, 2025 12:16 AM (QSrLX)

347
I believe Pam Bondi is gone by next week ......
Posted by: Mike Hunt

I never thought that Biden would drop out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 12, 2025 12:16 AM (63Dwl)

348 Holy Mandela Syndrome Batman.
I just found out that the lead singer from Nena is still alive. I could have sworn years ago, I read that she died. The Breakaway Civilization types are messing with my mind. All these years I thought she had died...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 12, 2025 12:20 AM (TGPs7)

349 Holy Mandela Syndrome Batman.
I just found out that the lead singer from Nena is still alive. I could have sworn years ago, I read that she died. The Breakaway Civilization types are messing with my mind. All these years I thought she had died...
Posted by: Mister Ghost

As a ghost, you really should know these things.

Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 12:22 AM (DgGvY)

350 Seems growing pains with Trump and his team.

This happens with an administration that is on full afterburners from day one. Some of the team can't keep up.

Is True.

Posted by: Nightwatch at July 12, 2025 12:23 AM (25kuG)

351 Il ministro della Salute Robert F. Kennedy Jr. dice, no mas.
He is rescinding a 1998 interpretation of a law that allowed illegal immigrants to access certain government-funded programs, the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) said on July 10. ...
...
...Head Start is among the programs included in the updated and expanded list of classified “Federal public benefits” under the PRWORA, HHS said on Wednesday.

In addition to Head Start, HHS is including about a dozen other programs that were previously excluded. Among them are the Community Services Block Grant, the Projects for Assistance in Transition from Homelessness Grant Program, and the Title X Family Planning Program.
...
HHS said in the notice that it would apply the updated interpretation immediately because “any delay would be contrary to the public interest and fail to address the ongoing emergency at the Southern Border of the United States.”

The Department of Education on Thursday said it was rescinding the 1998 interpretation of the PRWORA that allowed illegal immigrants to access federal education benefits, while the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, part of HHS, previously said it would increase

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 12:25 AM (Ri+6K)

352 night horde.

Posted by: Nightwatch at July 12, 2025 12:26 AM (25kuG)

353 If your last name is Dewey, don't name your daughter Mildred.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 12, 2025 12:28 AM (KAi1n)

354 Senate Committee Votes To Block FBI Headquarters Relocation
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) crossed party lines to join Democrats in supporting halting the administration’s proposed move.
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Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 12:30 AM (Ri+6K)

355 Despite all the infighting and wishing our leaders would be more aggressive on the low hanging fruit, worldwise we are making great advancement.

>>>Thursday, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon spoke at a foreign ministry event in Dublin, blasting the Democratic Party for going off the deep end with DEI, gender politics, and a series of failed policies that he said have harmed the country. "I have a lot of friends who are Democrats, and they're idiots," Dimon said at the event.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 12:39 AM (Ri+6K)

356 Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) crossed party lines to join Democrats in supporting halting the administration’s proposed move.
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"crossed"

Posted by: Methos at July 12, 2025 12:39 AM (zLwRl)

357 If the Democrats could have pulled a rabbit out of tje hat in 2024 a Democrats Bureau of Investigation would be building a new building 4 months ago

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 12:41 AM (+qU29)

358 Not that it's unnecessarily untrue but I dare him to post a similar stereotype about non whites. "Well the blacks were out looting...
Picking on the Irish and other Caucasian types is safe.

Chris Mannix
@SIChrisMannix

So the Irish must have been out drinking because they are now in the building (and loud). Expect another split crowd in a near-packed MSG #TaylorSerrano3

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 12, 2025 12:44 AM (TGPs7)

359 349 Holy Mandela Syndrome Batman.
I just found out that the lead singer from Nena is still alive. I could have sworn years ago, I read that she died. The Breakaway Civilization types are messing with my mind. All these years I thought she had died...
Posted by: Mister Ghost

As a ghost, you really should know these things.
Posted by: mikeski at July 12, 2025 12:22 AM (DgGvY)

Sometimes, you don't have a ghost of a chance...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 12, 2025 12:48 AM (TGPs7)

360
youtube.com/watch?v=mXtE2Rku7AE

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 12:48 AM (Ri+6K)

361 qI)

318 15 309 Yes. One pilot asks 'why did you cutoff?' The other says 'I didn't.'
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird
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Was he a muslim? India is having a problem with a muslim masquerader portraying himself as a mystic seeking to convert Hindu women to islam.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 11:53 PM (Ri+6K)

If both pilots were speaking the truth on that recording (and I think they were) then this brings up the possibility of a very sophisticated level of sabotage.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 12, 2025 12:52 AM (Hlfhp)

362 And on that oversharing note, I take my leave for the night. At least in my dreams, I don't have that stuff.
G'nite, y'all.
Posted by: mindful webworker - still alive and kicking at July 11, 2025 11:38

Dear mr mindworker,
I've read and enjoyed your posts for many yrs. My very best wishes for you to preserve, I know you can.

J and I have faced a lot of medical issues lately. When I look at what we have already dealt with I just know the future will work out. We can make that happen and you can too. Be well.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at July 12, 2025 12:56 AM (55Qr6)

363 "Cheese should never be on a hotdog."
Cheez Whiz is fine, and technically does not violate that rule.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 11:44

Swiss cheese on sauerkraut is also allowed. There's still a subtle German influence in Midwestern cuisine.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at July 12, 2025 01:04 AM (55Qr6)

364 Onions have not been mentioned. It is not a hotdog without onions.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 12, 2025 01:08 AM (Ri+6K)

365 Fried onions on hot dogs is almost a given for me

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:10 AM (+qU29)

366 Dear mr mindworker,
I've read and enjoyed your posts for many yrs. My very best wishes for you to preserve, I know you can.

Seconded.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 12, 2025 01:16 AM (mH6SG)

367 Trying to decide Melatonin again tonight or not

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:24 AM (+qU29)

368 The FBI is supposed to be the investigating arm of the DOJ. Wouldn’t they have the supposed client list? Why is Bondi the fall girl? They signed off on the memo.

Also if they are covering up why make a definitive finding so soon. They could have delayed this for as long as necessary for people to forget about it.

Posted by: polynikes at July 12, 2025 01:27 AM (VofaG)

369 Where did everyone go?

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:42 AM (+qU29)

370 I am here, but don't have much to say regarding the current topics.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 01:44 AM (zPc+3)

371 Where did everyone go?
Posted by: Skip
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I dunno. Suppose they have... "lives"... or sumpthin'?

Meh. Having a life, is overrated.

*shrug*

Hi.

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 01:45 AM (rdVOm)

372 Hi, AOP.

Yeah, I have no particular comments re: current topics either

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 01:46 AM (rdVOm)

373 I am only trying to stay on my night schedule.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:51 AM (+qU29)

374 Evening everyone.
Just got home from work.
Cracking a beer and off to content.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 01:51 AM (lPvx2)

375 Still on nights, Skip?

Well, it's a living. Did my time there, too.

*cheers*

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 01:53 AM (rdVOm)

376 Hmm. Want a snack, but too close to bedtime.

Good thing I sent all of last night's leftovers 'home' with fambly. LOL

Except... dang it, I'd like one of those jalapeno poppers right about now!

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 01:56 AM (rdVOm)

377 Yeah, will be probably another month.
Shocked today will get a good co-worker, I hope all week at least.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 01:59 AM (+qU29)

378
I think tomorrow, Sunday, is the 1 year anniv of the Democrats shooting Our Favorite President(tm) in the head in a failed attempt to prevent him winning the election.

Fake News will not mention it.

Posted by: Soothsayer is Mathin' like jazzy crockett at July 12, 2025 02:02 AM (N4FwM)

379 Skip, I suppose you're in construction of some kind.. nights would be better in summer, I'd guess.

Glad you've got a "good coworker"-- that's a REAL blessing!!!

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:02 AM (rdVOm)

380
Fearless comic

https://youtu.be/q6hSZDiukyw

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 12, 2025 02:03 AM (UmB+t)

381 "If both pilots were speaking the truth on that recording (and I think they were) then this brings up the possibility of a very sophisticated level of sabotage."

Thinking it through a bit, the one second delay between the switch cutoff is consistent with a human action time.

A "computer" could deactivate both controls instantaneously. A smart saboteur could take this into account.

But then...

Why would the switches be restored later if it was sabotage. Only one engine restarted witch is probably why it crashed. Maybe if both had restated it would just be some weird glitch that was lost in the noise.

I don't know much about the specific avionics in the Dreamliner but with the very strong trend these days to make pilots kind of accessories, I would really be looking at what other condition other than the physical switches being manipulated could have caused this to happen.

There were four total glitches, one for each switch and one for each action.

Very strange.

I'm sure the airline pilots are discussing this somewhere.

Posted by: pawn at July 12, 2025 02:07 AM (QB+5g)

382 Well that was pretty quick.
The kitten at feeding time remind me of Jojo our, rescued from the mouth of a dog, cat. He had a voracious appetite when we rescued him. Like every hour wanting food. I think he was only about 3 weeks old at the time.

I get a $4/hr shift differential for working swing. They tried to put me on days but I refused. I like swing and day shift is mostly a bunch of tards that I want as little to do with as possible.
I hate waking up to an alarm clock.
I have always been a night owl but circumstances with the kid and such demanded that I do days.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 02:08 AM (lPvx2)

383 Still upset that King Harv did not get a buggy whip to go with his rickshaw.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 02:10 AM (XeU6L)

384 I have always been a night owl but circumstances with the kid and such demanded that I do days.
Posted by: Reforger
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Yup. That's why I went to days. No kids, but... just everything & everybody else in my life, was smoother when I was on days.

Hated the early rising. Hated the corporate company politics. Hated being the scapegoat shift for all the off-shifts' f*ckups...

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:13 AM (rdVOm)

385 I always could stay up late before, but having to start work at 6am for over 10 years just makes me think I should be up at crack of dawn.

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 02:16 AM (+qU29)

386 Going to hopefully get a decent night.
Good night everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 12, 2025 02:17 AM (+qU29)

387 This happens with an administration that is on full afterburners from day one. Some of the team can't keep up.
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There is another factor that we do not know about (for any President, but particularly Trump) and that is the giant myriad of details associated with the office. Dozens of issues each day, I expect.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 02:17 AM (XeU6L)

388 They tried to put me on days but I refused. I like swing and day shift is mostly a bunch of tards that I want as little to do with as possible.
I hate waking up to an alarm clock.
I have always been a night owl but circumstances with the kid and such demanded that I do days.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 02:08 AM (lPvx2)

Same here..Ive worked 3rd for 10 years now..no desire for days as, like you said, alarm clock and dealing with all the higher ups and traffic from hell...They ask when openings happen, but no thanks

Posted by: a dude in MI at July 12, 2025 02:17 AM (+I6Y/)

389 Can't believe I lasted 25 fking years on Day Shift!

Hated it. Hated it.

But now, I *should* get up early-- there's so much to do outside here, before it gets too hot to breathe...

I'm struggling with it.

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:21 AM (rdVOm)

390 They made the day shift maintnence lady go to swing for a couple of weeks to train me. I don't really need much training but here I am. She is totally blown away how much nicer and fun work is on swing. Days is a cut throat, nobody gets along, everyone out for themselves kind of gig. Lots of turnover.
We on swing help each other. We truly act like a team. We double days production with 1/2 the people. They try and steal our people in hopes of finding "good workers" not realizing that everyone can be a "good worker" when they are treated with respect and not like some idiot who just fell off a turnip truck out front and stumbled through the door.
We identify and correct issues. Days fires people for stupid shit. Totally unwarranted sometimes. We have lost some good people who were fine for months on swing then get moved and are gone before the end of the week.
They have way to many cheifs and can't keep indians around.
It's a night and day difference.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 02:26 AM (lPvx2)

391 Swing shift is 4 PM to midnight, right?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 02:32 AM (zPc+3)

392 Totally understand, Reforger.

Too many 'big wheels' rolling thru Day Shift, that gotta make a name for themselves.

But also-- night & weekend shifts had the least supervision. They were able to fk-off a lot, and they DID... product quality went to sh*t.. and Days got to hear all about it, almost like accusation, and it built resentment.

"Days" was full of slackers, too. Biding their time for retirement, didn't give a sh*t, buncha tattle-tales-- "trying to clip the wings of others, because they themselves could not fly..."

Yeah. So glad I'm out.

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:33 AM (rdVOm)

393 Qagg.news@qaggnews

The daughter of a New Jersey police chief shockingly claimed that he and a neighbor raped her and other children in the woods as part of a 'ritualistic' ring of satanists who also burned kids alive.

Courtney Tamagny, 20, filed an explosive lawsuit against her father, Leonia Police Chief Scott Tamagny, and her neighbor, Keith Slevin, accusing them and other grown men of committing the horrific crimes.

Both men have denied the claims and said the allegations have been investigated and proven unfounded by several authorities. Slevin has also countersued Courtney for defamation.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 12, 2025 02:34 AM (TGPs7)

394 There is another factor that we do not know about (for any President, but particularly Trump) and that is the giant myriad of details associated with the office. Dozens of issues each day, I expect.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 02:17

Yes indeed Mike. When I think of all the things that I need to deal with I my life, while over a decade younger, I'm amazed.

Yes he has underlings that deal with it all but how do you even keep track of who is doing what? And he is apparntly well informed when issues are discussed. I need more sleep than he does.

Posted by: Farmer, with his own historical take at July 12, 2025 02:34 AM (55Qr6)

395 391 Swing shift is 4 PM to midnight, right?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 02:32 AM (zPc+3)

2 pm to 10:30 right now. In a few weeks it'll go to 3 to 11:30.
So pretty close to that.

Yeah. So glad I'm out.
Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:33 AM (rdVOm)

I've got 10 more years at least.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 02:38 AM (lPvx2)

396 I pretty much have my desktop computer sorted out, now. Linux Mint 22.1 is running in the solid state drive, and Win 7 can still be run from old hard drive. I can boot to either, but neither OS can "see" the drive with the other OS on it, so moving files between them needs an intermediary like a thumb drive.

Brave Browser is up and running in Mint (using it right now), and I have managed to import my bookmarks. Thunderbird mail works, and I have a huge swack of old mail imported, too. There are a couple of mail directories yet to import, but I have the procedure learned, now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 02:39 AM (zPc+3)

397 I miss the paycheck. I don't miss the job.

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:46 AM (rdVOm)

398 Well, my one beer for the evening is done; time for me to get some shuteye. Night, Horde!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 12, 2025 02:47 AM (zPc+3)

399 'Night, AOP

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:48 AM (rdVOm)

400 400

Posted by: JQ at July 12, 2025 02:52 AM (rdVOm)

401 I need a new computer but I hate 11. I am forced to deal with that dungheap at work. I'd love to get a 7 machine running.
I hate outlook now. I want no predictive text. No attitude check. If I sound pissed in an e-mail it's because I am. Damnit.
I really hate the newest version of excel. So I want the 2004ish version of that back.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 02:53 AM (lPvx2)

402 Bondi's Current Score:

People arrested for Russiagate hoax: 0

People arrested for COVID plandemic: 0

People arrested for Butler assassination plot: 0

People arrested for Mar-a-Lago raid: 0

People arrested for 2020 election coup: 0

People arrested for J6 committee withholding exculpatory evidence and gross denial of civil and constitutional rights: 0

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 12, 2025 03:18 AM (E2cCq)

403 JUST IN: Obama Judge Enters New Order Blocking Trump’s Big Beautiful Bill Provision Barring Funding For Planned Parenthood

Ok... not so new...
Cripes sakes, they gonna say, Oopsie, we thought Trumps was issuing edicts again. Didn't know it funding llaw and Trump did not just pull it out of his ass...

Something has to be done about "Judges" engaging in sabotage of Government operations.

Maybe a rash of o'dark thirty drug raids on their homes... "Oopsies, wrong address, oh well, immunity." Will do it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 03:19 AM (/lPRQ)

404 I need a new computer but I hate 11. I am forced to deal with that dungheap at work. I'd love to get a 7 machine running.
I hate outlook now. I want no predictive text. No attitude check. If I sound pissed in an e-mail it's because I am. Damnit.
I really hate the newest version of excel. So I want the 2004ish version of that back.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 02:53 AM (lPvx2)

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We're running Linux (a Debian version, I think) -- wifey and I are both former software developers and she's handled the difficult setup of the system.

Unfortunately, non-software types likely can't figure out how to setup and use a Linux OS ... but if you (or someone you know) can, you can pretty much replicate all of the popular Windows programs including the Microsoft Office Suite (e.g. we're using an open source freeware "LibreOffice" suite of programs that can use and convert from/to Microsoft Office analogs).

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 12, 2025 03:21 AM (E2cCq)

405 Crap, it's after midnight here (and my insomnia has returned) -- so time to update the Nic from Two to One Day Until ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Tomorrow is 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 12, 2025 03:22 AM (E2cCq)

406 Maybe a rash of o'dark thirty drug raids on their homes... "Oopsies, wrong address, oh well, immunity." Will do it.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 12, 2025 03:19 AM (/lPRQ)

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Make SWATting Commies Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Tomorrow is 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 12, 2025 03:24 AM (E2cCq)

407 My brother is a city/county retired microsoft certifed engineer.
I should call him.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 03:25 AM (lPvx2)

408 *certified..
Sometimes I want to turn autocucumber back on.

Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 03:27 AM (lPvx2)

409 Posted by: Reforger at July 12, 2025 02:53 AM (lPvx2)

I kept my Office 2007 for exactly these reasons!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 12, 2025 03:28 AM (L5An7)

410 The FBI is supposed to be the investigating arm of the DOJ. Wouldn’t they have the supposed client list? Why is Bondi the fall girl? They signed off on the memo.
——-

Reading about the cold war and the F.B.I. there were communists infested at the highest levels, and their were voluminous detailed reports. Lots of finger pointing, and pass the buck. The Truman administration didn’t want to go after those guys. So they didn’t. If the President tells the DOJ not to do something, not to prosecute, then they won’t.

Looks like same old same old going on 80 years now. The book is called Blacklisted by History, mainly about Senator Joseph McCarthy. The parallels in recent years sound very familiar, with the exception that the F.B.I. did an excellent job for their first 50 years, I think they’ve been institutionally flipped to some degree in the last 50, somehow.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2025 03:30 AM (ZvpQu)

411
Looks like same old same old going on 80 years now. The book is called Blacklisted by History, mainly about Senator Joseph McCarthy. The parallels in recent years sound very familiar, with the exception that the F.B.I. did an excellent job for their first 50 years, I think they’ve been institutionally flipped to some degree in the last 50, somehow.
Posted by: Common Tater
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Again, I endorse and promote this book.

It is astonishing how many guilty-as-sin 'Red' State Department members were simply moved laterally to other departments/agencies.

Whatever Hoover's personal proclivities were, he cared about America, and hated Reds. The FBI simply could not move without Justice and the WH. The Dems realized that the consequent damage to their party outweighed the well-being of the country and so quashed everything, while launching ad hominem attacks on McCarthy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 12, 2025 03:44 AM (XeU6L)

412 Mike, was it you who suggested this book here at AOS? I am grateful, whomever it was. It clears a lot of things up. I’m only 200 pages in, of 900. Just really difficult to accept how they messed so many things up. It isn’t the evil doers that bother me as much as the assholes in charge, supposedly the good guys, who neglect to confront them.

“What is it that you would say you do here?” comes to mind. Sheesh.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 12, 2025 03:55 AM (2NfTM)

Stairway to Stardom Cafe

Mons Olympus on Mars

Little kid group "The Greystones" play "Don't Stop Believing."

Flashback: Metal heads hanging out in the parking lot before a Judas Priest show, back in the 80s.

Lion and tiger cubs roughhousing.

Juvenile bat squeaks for pets.

Dog tries to keep a family of bears under control.

Bulldog loves to skateboard.

Playing hide and seek with a golden retriever.

Impression of a guy at a party who only knows one part of "Tiny Dancer."

Baby has seven shepherd siblings.

Out of control.

Dog is a fan of the ponies.

Posted by: Ace at 07:30 PM

Comments

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 07:33 PM (GYt5+)

2 Good evening everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 07:34 PM (+qU29)

3 1st again?

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 07:34 PM (GYt5+)

4 Woof

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 07:35 PM (28cZF)

5 hi

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:35 PM (ZOv7s)

6 I watched too much of that JP video

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 07:35 PM (28cZF)

7 >>Mons Olympus on Mars

When I worked in Tampa my office was right around the corner from Mons Venus.

Different planet.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:36 PM (viF8m)

8
Is there a roll call? Present!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:36 PM (HZi96)

9 Good evening good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 07:36 PM (cYBz/)

10 The Great Nipple of Mars.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:36 PM (Hlfhp)

11 I declined being first because I already spend to much time muttering to myself.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:37 PM (HFcKg)

12 Good G-d, that mountain casts a shadow that covers half the planet.
[Sorry, that was off topic, this isn't the Lena Dunham thread]

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 07:38 PM (gKWVE)

13 The Great Nipple of Mars.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:36 PM (Hlfhp)
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...and we're back to a bewb thread within ten comments.

A new record!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:38 PM (ZOv7s)

14
Exterminator came out today and said the yellow jacket nest was above ground and enormous. He treated it but said he'd have to come back next week to take another look.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:38 PM (HZi96)

15 No tats on the young women, no odd color hair

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 07:39 PM (+qU29)

16 It looks like the Great Backhole of Mars.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 07:39 PM (/U5Yz)

17 I had a pimple on my ass that looked like that once.

Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:40 PM (1l+t9)

18 "He treated it but said he'd have to come back next week to take another look.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh "

You know you have to nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 07:40 PM (vFG9F)

19 Exterminator came out today and said the yellow jacket nest was above ground and enormous. He treated it but said he'd have to come back next week to take another look.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:38 PM (HZi96)
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Traps can be helpful. We had a problem a few years ago and high attrition kept them at bay.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:40 PM (ZOv7s)

20 Mons Olympus on Mars

When I worked in Tampa my office was right around the corner from Mons Venus.

Different planet.
Posted by: JackStraw

There are strip clubs and then, there is Mons Venus.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 07:40 PM (cYBz/)

21 "He treated it but said he'd have to come back next week to take another look.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh "

Put flame to it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (/U5Yz)

22 Stairway to Stardom - and that my friends is what Independent channels in the 70’s were all about.

I was lucky - at least ours showed Kaiju movies every Saturday afternoon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (Hlfhp)

23 6 I watched too much of that JP video
Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 07:35 PM (28cZF)

Good lawd, those stupid louvers on the backs of Camaros and Trans Ams were godawful....

Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (1l+t9)

24 fd, how many hours did you put on the new tractor?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (HFcKg)

25 You know you have to nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 07:40 PM (vFG9F)
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My late father in law used gasoline.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (ZOv7s)

26
Aaaahh. Deep into conversation downstairs, but oh well.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (UmB+t)

27 8
Is there a roll call? Present!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:36 PM (HZi96)

Bagel!
Challah!
Cinnamon!
Currant!
Dinner!
Hawaiian! Hawaiian! HAWAIIAN! SOUND OFF!

Posted by: mmmm...rolls... at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (TbWk/)

28 It’s like I don’t know you guys
Ace style guide says to ‘slap hot iron to it ‘

Posted by: Some stupid with a flaregun at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (CponO)

29 Three Ben Had and then it sprung a leak from a loose hydraulic fitting and I didn't have a wrench to fit it with me.

Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (vFG9F)

30 So what. The cars had manual transmissions and cigarettes were 2$ pack.
Then, U2 happened

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (T1QkV)

31 New York Times has the sadz. American workers are getting hired instead of Haitians.

Trump’s Purge of Foreign Workers Arrives at Amazon’s Warehouses

**

Two weeks later, Mr. Jerome, 35, lost his job. His work authorization was revoked in late June after the Trump administration ended a Biden-era program that allowed him to live and work legally in the United States. Hundreds of others at the same Amazon building in West Jefferson, which employs more than 3,700 people, also lost their jobs.

They are among thousands of foreign workers across the country who have been swept up in a quiet purge, pushed out of jobs in places where their labor was in high demand and at times won high praise. While raids to nab undocumented workers in fields and Home Depot parking lots have grabbed attention, the job dismissals at the Amazon warehouse are part of the Trump administration’s effort to thin the ranks of immigrants who had legal authorization to work.

“This is not unique to Amazon,” said Viles Dorsainvil, a Haitian community leader in nearby Springfield. He is aware of more than 100 Haitians with work authorizations who are now out of work in the area, he said.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (ImXfC)

32
Mmmm, challah...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (HZi96)

33 Ace style guide says to ‘slap hot iron to it ‘
Posted by: Some stupid with a flaregun

I assume you can get that experience at Mons Venus too

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 07:44 PM (gKWVE)

34 I know I'm not the only one that clicked the boob video first.

And was disappointed.

On a separate note, has anyone ever tried Head to Tail Calming treats for cats. Snowflake has been crazy since I got back from a 36 hour vacation.

Thanks in advance. Back in an hour.

Actually, I was thinking of getting a spray bottle for a few minor issues but did research and changed my mind.

I got her a cat tree that is behind my Lazyboy in my bedroom. Also Sticky Paws which is supposed to protect furniture. And I'm ordering double sided tape for cats to stop the counter hopping.

She has a bunch of toys but aside from the scratching posts, the fish, the round ball thing and her cat tree, are there any other great toys for cats that will tire them out.

She was an outdoor cat.

Thanks in advance. I'll be back in an hour.
I also

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 01% towards 20% getting better at July 11, 2025 07:45 PM (jvJvP)

35 One of those power chute gliders out about 1/2 me away

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 07:45 PM (+qU29)

36 “This is not unique to Amazon,” said Viles Dorsainvil, a Haitian community leader in nearby Springfield. He is aware of more than 100 Haitians with work authorizations who are now out of work in the area, he said.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (ImXfC)
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They should take the $1,000 and a free ticket home. A grand would go a long way in Haiti.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:45 PM (ZOv7s)

37 7 >>Mons Olympus on Mars

When I worked in Tampa my office was right around the corner from Mons Venus.

Different planet.
Posted by: JackStraw
................................
That was just one of the strip joints there. There were quite a few more around there.

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin in Amish Country at July 11, 2025 07:46 PM (uGaBv)

38 You mean it might get harder for Amazon to pay people shit and work them to death? The horror! The horror...

Posted by: A national tragedy at July 11, 2025 07:46 PM (TbWk/)

39
Well, I'm sure all these poor Haitians can put their hard work and skills to good use in their native land.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:46 PM (HZi96)

40 Stateless, some sheets of aluminum foil on the counters will deter cats.

Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 07:46 PM (vFG9F)

41 I licked a Mons Venus a few times

Posted by: Mo at July 11, 2025 07:46 PM (X5y4b)

42 One of those power chute gliders out about 1/2 me away
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 07:45 PM (+qU29)
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Your conventional AA sights won't work because they are going too slow. Lead them a little less.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:46 PM (ZOv7s)

43 He is aware of more than 100 Haitians with work authorizations who are now out of work in the area, he said.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (ImXfC)

Well Mr. Bojangles, you could try to dance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:47 PM (Hlfhp)

44
When I worked in Tampa my office was right around the corner from Mons Venus.

Different planet.
Posted by: JackStraw

__________

And here I thought Dallas was the strip club capital of America.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:47 PM (HZi96)

45
Olympus Mons ("Mt. Olympus") is the biggest volcano in the whole damned solar system. It's base is about the size of Arizona, and it's 2.5 times higher than Mt. Everest relative to the Martian equivalent of sea level.

Mars is also home to Valles Marineris, the biggest canyon system in the solar system, making the Grand Canyon look like a little baby canyon. The system is about 2500 miles long, and 23,000' deep.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 07:47 PM (w6EFb)

46 Am I the only one thinking of claiming I'm an illegal from Fiji, and getting $1,000 and a free plane ticket?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:48 PM (ZOv7s)

47 HAHA, our favorite drag queen, Pattie Gonia, is supposedly the first frag queen to hit the Time's hot 100 list.

Before RuPaul? Is this real? The drag mother who kickstarted off the whole drag craze with his Drag Race reality show, and turned it into an emmy winning show franchise?

Supposedly you can buy your way onto the list. So if RuPaul's never been on it because he refused to buy his way in, good on him, honestly.

So now, drag queens desecrating our national parks by hanging pride flags all over them gets celebrated. Sounds right.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 07:48 PM (Eng1Z)

48 Do not remember Stairway To Stardom

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 07:49 PM (+qU29)

49 The article says 3700 people work at the Amazon plant. And “hundreds” are foreigners . Which means what class?

It means of course that the vast majority are Americans. Doing jobs Americans won’t do. Weird.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 07:49 PM (ImXfC)

50
Yay Cafe!!!

Leave your worries at the door and let's have some fun!

Thank you Ace!!!

Posted by: fourseasons at July 11, 2025 07:51 PM (3ek7K)

51 Mars is also home to Valles Marineris, the biggest canyon system in the solar system, making the Grand Canyon look like a little baby canyon. The system is about 2500 miles long, and 23,000' deep.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 07:47 PM (w6EFb)
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Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:51 PM (ZOv7s)

52
The article says 3700 people work at the Amazon plant.

________

Work harder, peasants! Bezos needs a new yacht.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:51 PM (HZi96)

53 >>And here I thought Dallas was the strip club capital of America.

I had never even been to Tampa before I took the job. My first day everyone in the office was very nice and welcoming. Probably 2/3 of them asked me "Did you know Tampa is the adult center of America?".

No, I did not know that.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:53 PM (viF8m)

54 “This is not unique to Amazon,” said Viles Dorsainvil, a Haitian community leader in nearby Springfield. He is aware of more than 100 Haitians with work authorizations who are now out of work in the area, he said.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (ImXfC)
——

Hide your pets!

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 07:53 PM (5RNOn)

55 Good lawd, those stupid louvers on the backs of Camaros and Trans Ams were godawful....
Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (1l+t9)

they were extra stupid on the back window of a Toyota Corolla

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 07:54 PM (D7oie)

56 And here I thought Dallas was the strip club capital of America.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:47 PM (HZi96)

They used to be all up and down the appropriately named Harry Hines Blvd.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:55 PM (Hlfhp)

57 Sorry, but the girl signing Journey is out of tune. Granted, that’s not an easy song to sing.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 07:55 PM (5RNOn)

58 Dogs being bad was pretty good.,

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:58 PM (VofaG)

59 One of the most underrated albums of all time.

Take it away, Lowell.

https://tinyurl.com/yx8h5c6v

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:59 PM (viF8m)

60 welp, the Rockies ain't winning yet

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 07:59 PM (gKWVE)

61 So what. The cars had manual transmissions and cigarettes were 2$ pack.
Then, U2 happened
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They were fine...in fact, better than fine, until "The Unforgettable Fire". And with that album the magic just died for me. And the later album "Joshua Tree" was proof that whatever they had that I had previously liked was never coming back.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:59 PM (TN0g+)

62 hey mon I'm illegal from Barbados
no wunna deport I

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 08:00 PM (gKWVE)

63 According to Google AI….

Portland, Oregon, has the most strip clubs per capita in the United States. With one strip club for every 11,826 residents.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 08:01 PM (ImXfC)

64 Good lawd, those stupid louvers on the backs of Camaros and Trans Ams were godawful....
Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (1l+t9)

they were extra stupid on the back window of a Toyota Corolla
Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 07:54 PM (D7oie)
——

The rear louvers started on the rear windows of Italian exotics like Lamborghinis. So of course they trickled down. Ugly, though.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 08:03 PM (5RNOn)

65 Gday mate. Tony from Melbourne here. Yeah I’m one of them illegal types eh? But a shrimp on the barby and pass me a cold Fosters.

I’ll take me free ticket back home plus $1000 American bucks. Where do I sign up?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 08:03 PM (ImXfC)

66 Took a shower to be presentable in the Cafe, then I watched the stairway To Stardom intro and the infected bat video. Now I feel dirty again.

Posted by: Penguin Promotion Board at July 11, 2025 08:03 PM (G5+As)

67
Dogs being bad was pretty good.,
Posted by: polynikes

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Black guy doing twice as much work to make the dog clean up after the killed pillow lolol.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 08:04 PM (UmB+t)

68 I was just looking at my twitter(X) feed, and reading about Trumps visit to the Texas flood zone today. And I realized that (so far) NO Major Media outlet has covered his trip except Fox. And this trip , where he met with Gov Abbot, the first responders, and at least some of the families is a Big F’n deal!
But so far most of the MFM is trying to ignore it.
(And I get irritated with Fox News often, but I give them credit today)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 08:04 PM (Hlfhp)

69 >>In my day, I attended. I stopped attending at a certain age. I've always been self aware. And I never wanted to be the creeper.

Well you failed at that too, Scogg.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:04 PM (viF8m)

70 @ 11 -
*fistbump*

Confusion to our enemies!

*clink!*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 08:05 PM (dKEEs)

71 Portland, Oregon, has the most strip clubs per capita in the United States. With one strip club for every 11,826 residents.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 08:01 PM (ImXfC)

The downside is that you pay to watch Trigglypuff dance.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 08:06 PM (Hlfhp)

72 I-75 has Lions Dens adult book stores every other exit in FL.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 08:07 PM (1SaWO)

73

Probably saying Scogg is better than saying *ucking ahole.

Posted by: fourseasons at July 11, 2025 08:07 PM (3ek7K)

74 Flashback: Metal heads hanging out in the parking lot before a Judas Priest show, back in the 80s.
===

It's just a pic of Lindsey Graham wering nothing but a small leather vest. More like a halter.

Might be AI generated.
Or not.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 08:07 PM (/lPRQ)

75 >>Everybody is Scogg now, Jack.

No, dipshit. You're Scogg. It's amusing you keep getting banned, come back with a new name and then say the exact same shit as if nobody notices.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:07 PM (viF8m)

76 The rhetoric coming from the opposition is criminal incitement.

Still waiting for all hell to break loose. At least moar indictments.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 08:07 PM (RIvkX)

77 Portland, Oregon, has the most strip clubs per capita in the United States. With one strip club for every 11,826 residents.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 08:01 PM (ImXfC)

The downside is that you pay to watch Trigglypuff dance.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 08:06 PM (Hlfhp)
——

‘Well, we got something for ya, big boy”

— fat faggot tranny humpdick drag queen

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 08:09 PM (5RNOn)

78 Gday mate. Tony from Melbourne here. Yeah I’m one of them illegal types eh? But a shrimp on the barby and pass me a cold Fosters.

I’ll take me free ticket back home plus $1000 American bucks. Where do I sign up?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
===

Used to only be $500.
But you cannot get another visa for several years.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 08:09 PM (/lPRQ)

79 Sweet, Snowflake likes the scratching posr in my room.

One minor issue dowm.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 01% towards 20% getting better at July 11, 2025 08:09 PM (jvJvP)

80 By the way, pro wrestling is fake and gay. Doug.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:10 PM (viF8m)

81
59 One of the most underrated albums of all time.

Take it away, Lowell.

https://tinyurl.com/yx8h5c6v
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:59 PM (viF8m)

I have always loved that album!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 08:10 PM (Hlfhp)

82 The downside is that you pay to watch Trigglypuff dance.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 08:06 PM (Hlfhp)
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Worse -- there are people that *want* to pay to watch Trigglypuff dance.

It takes all kinds, I guess...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 08:11 PM (IBQGV)

83 Doggies with the toddler is nice rd to see

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 08:11 PM (+qU29)

84 What happened to moron robbie, does he still comment?

Posted by: old chick at July 11, 2025 08:12 PM (F3Dlr)

85 Pam Bondi’s DOJ closes investigation into Pfizer for alleged bribery.

The state deepens.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 08:12 PM (/U5Yz)

86 Portland, Oregon, has the most strip clubs per capita in the United States. With one strip club for every 11,826 residents.

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Maybe, but it's said that Hamtramck MI has the most poles per Pole.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 08:13 PM (dDmld)

87 >>I have always loved that album!!!

I always seem to overlook it for a year or so and then I wonder why.

Little Feat were great.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:13 PM (viF8m)

88 I just watched a storm roll in, with a nice shelf cloud in the lead. I saw unmistakable rotation in there for a minute, but nothing came of it. Love that cold air downblast as it arrives! Smells like sweet clover.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:13 PM (TwZXH)

89 Worse -- there are people that *want* to pay to watch Trigglypuff dance.

It takes all kinds, I guess...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 08:11 PM (IBQGV

We'll call that the Lizzo demographic.

Btw, there was a Lizzo colouring book at the dollar store today. $3. That made me laugh.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 01% towards 20% getting better at July 11, 2025 08:14 PM (jvJvP)

90 I thought they were going to rename it to something more diverse and equitable, like "Halaltramck"

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 08:14 PM (gKWVE)

91 Stairway to Stardom. Yeah.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 08:14 PM (LHPAg)

92 I had a zit once that turned into Mons Olympus, hidden under a massive beard for months.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:14 PM (TwZXH)

93 There was no U2 until Joshua Tree then whammo!

Remember sneaking off to have a smoke?
Different world

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 08:15 PM (28cZF)

94 59 One of the most underrated albums of all time.

Take it away, Lowell.

https://tinyurl.com/yx8h5c6v
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:59 PM (viF8m)
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I was listening to "Feats Don't Fail Me Now" in the office this afternoon. Highly underrated band, overall.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 11, 2025 08:15 PM (F30Bl)

95
old chick,

He changed his name to Boron Cobbie.

Posted by: fourseasons at July 11, 2025 08:15 PM (3ek7K)

96
Stairway to the Stars > Stairway to Stardom

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 08:16 PM (KAi1n)

97 POTUS channeling my exact thoughts, was just discussing this specific issue with a friend in the last hour:

https://tinyurl.com/2j6z6fae

Not sure what the technical or legal significance, if any, of Trump's "authorizing" response to attacks on LE/ICE vehicles, but I've been surprised that there has been no (visible) counter-measures to this problem. Of course tactical situations vary, so discretion is needed. But very strong non-lethal means (rubber bullets, taser, gas, hickory shampoos) seem appropriate with these mobs.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 08:17 PM (1m82a)

98 He changed his name to Boron Cobbie.

Yes, but, I haven't seen him for a bit.

Just watching a pattern here.

Posted by: old chick at July 11, 2025 08:18 PM (F3Dlr)

99 59 One of the most underrated albums of all time.

Take it away, Lowell.

https://tinyurl.com/yx8h5c6v
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:59 PM (viF8m)

I'm partial to Feats Don't Fail Me Now, and of course Dixie Chicken

Posted by: browndog with weed, whites and wine at July 11, 2025 08:18 PM (TTAGa)

100 All trolls are Average Joe who sucks cock by choice.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 08:18 PM (gKWVE)

101 I can see a clash between Kash & Bongo and their boss Bondi,

... Holly crap, she's actually dumber than she looks...

Hard to maintain good working relationship when that is all you can think of during every meeting.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 08:18 PM (/lPRQ)

102 >>>Impression of a guy at a party who only knows one part of "Tiny Dancer."

Or as Phoebe sings it, "Hold me closer Tony Danza."

Posted by: No Name Today at July 11, 2025 08:21 PM (I+KxP)

103

Stairway to Stardom was a public-access television series that aired in New York City from 1979 to the early 1990s. It was described by NPR as "an amateur talent show many see as a low-rent precursor to American Idol. Taped "in what appeared to be a freshly carpeted Staten Island basement."

https://t.ly/eseKG

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 08:21 PM (63Dwl)

104 102 It's always been like that. The tendency is to evaluate an argument not on its own merits, but on the suspected motives of the suspicious character who utters it. Gotta roll with it. You can't fix it.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:23 PM (TwZXH)

105 69 I was just looking at my twitter(X) feed, and reading about Trumps visit to the Texas flood zone today. ...
(And I get irritated with Fox News often, but I give them credit today)
Posted by: Tom Servo
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I am on my way back from Texas, and watched in disbelief as THUGS were violently throwing rocks and bricks at ICE Officers while they were moving down a roadway in their car… Therefore, I am directing Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, and Border Czar, Tom Homan, to instruct all ICE, Homeland Security, or any other Law Enforcement Officer who is on the receiving end of thrown rocks, bricks, or any other form of assault, to stop their car, and arrest these SLIMEBALLS, using whatever means is necessary to do so. …
_President Donald J. Trump

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 08:23 PM (Ri+6K)

106 That bad dog video is hilarious.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 01% towards 20% getting better at July 11, 2025 08:23 PM (jvJvP)

107 POTUS channeling my exact thoughts, was just discussing this specific issue with a friend in the last hour:

https://tinyurl.com/2j6z6fae

Not sure what the technical or legal significance, if any, of Trump's "authorizing" response to attacks on LE/ICE vehicles, but I've been surprised that there has been no (visible) counter-measures to this problem. Of course tactical situations vary, so discretion is needed. But very strong non-lethal means (rubber bullets, taser, gas, hickory shampoos) seem appropriate with these mobs.
Posted by: rhomboid

===

Needs a "Q Truck" with each convoy. A dozen guys armed primarly with 'less lethal" 12 gauge shotguns. Just light them up.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 08:25 PM (/lPRQ)

108 That "Stairway to Stardom" thing with the snaggleteeth in the begining...

O.M.G.

Ace, what did we do to deserve that!?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 11, 2025 08:26 PM (/HDaX)

109 114 You can't fix it. And what does even meritable argument accomplish anyway? No minds will be changed, that's guaranteed.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:26 PM (TwZXH)

110 You can have my autograph
I think I'll sign it
"love to you"
But should I sign it
just for you?

BOC - Stairway to the Stars

youtu.be/ar3hHWsJASM

Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 08:26 PM (vFG9F)

111 >>> thrown rocks, bricks, or any other form of assault

Florida Sheriff said if you do that his deputies will just shoot you dead.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 08:27 PM (/lPRQ)

112
I've been surprised that there has been no (visible) counter-measures to this problem.

Posted by: rhomboid

============

Same. A "standoff" between law enforcement and a litter of Trigglypuffs?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 08:27 PM (UmB+t)

113 90 Pam Bondi’s DOJ closes investigation into Pfizer for alleged bribery.

The state deepens.
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Good thing she doesn't have a dick. I'd be so bruised.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 08:28 PM (Ri+6K)

114 In about that time, International House of Pancakes (no initializing in those days) offered a big breakfast special, 3 eggs, 3 pancakes, 2 strips of bacon, 2 breakfast sausages. Can't remember the price, but must have been reasonable, because I bought it. Endless pot of coffee was separate, but endless.
What brings this up is I hadn't had a good breakfast for a while, it's been so hot, so I had pretty much this for supper tonight. And it was good.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 08:28 PM (n4GiU)

115 Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 08:23 PM (RmOaB

First rule at aos is don’t act butthurt. I’d rather a troll.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:28 PM (VofaG)

116 Congratulations America! We ended June with a budget surplus!!

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 08:29 PM (g47mK)

117 I am so proud of us !

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 08:29 PM (g47mK)

118 Not sure what the technical or legal significance, if any, of Trump's "authorizing" response to attacks on LE/ICE vehicles, but I've been surprised that there has been no (visible) counter-measures to this problem. Of course tactical situations vary, so discretion is needed. But very strong non-lethal means (rubber bullets, taser, gas, hickory shampoos) seem appropriate with these mobs.
Posted by: rhomboid

I just looked up the brown note. The frequency that makes people crap their pants.

Sadly, it doesn't seem to be real.

Too bad. The videos would have been hilarious.

Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 01% towards 20% getting better at July 11, 2025 08:29 PM (jvJvP)

119 111 >>> thrown rocks, bricks, or any other form of assault

Florida Sheriff said if you do that his deputies will just shoot you dead.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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And if they do it to you. You can shoot 'em too. Please.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 08:29 PM (Ri+6K)

120
https://x.com/TTExulansic/status/
1943754940889149564

DOJ is subpoenaing hospitals for child mutilation records. The person speaking is female.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 08:30 PM (UmB+t)

121 "Pam Bondi’s DOJ closes investigation into Pfizer for alleged bribery."

Wow. That might boost PFE back up to the price I paid for it.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:31 PM (TwZXH)

122 The “Stairway to Stardom” works better than a cold shower.

Posted by: TexasJew at July 11, 2025 08:31 PM (7OF7k)

123 https://tinyurl.com/yx8h5c6v
Posted by: JackStraw

Whatever passes for the band is at Ninigret Aug 29th, Jack

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 08:31 PM (n4GiU)

124 Pam Bondi’s DOJ closes investigation into Pfizer for alleged bribery.

The state deepens.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 08:12 PM (/U5Yz)

So an investigation is only legit if they find the target guilty?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:33 PM (VofaG)

125 I am on my way back from Texas, and watched in disbelief as THUGS were violently throwing rocks and bricks at ICE Officers while they were moving down a roadway in their car and/or official vehicle. Tremendous damage was done to these brand new vehicles. I know for a fact that these Officers are having a hard time with allowing this to happen in that it shows such total disrespect for LAW AND ORDER. Therefore, I am directing Secretary of Homeland Security, Kristi Noem, and Border Czar, Tom Homan, to instruct all ICE, Homeland Security, or any other Law Enforcement Officer who is on the receiving end of thrown rocks, bricks, or any other form of assault, to stop their car, and arrest these SLIMEBALLS, using whatever means is @RealDonaldTrump

Use of lethal force has been authorized. It's going to get spicey out there.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 08:33 PM (/U5Yz)

126 Itinerant Butcher, definitely something like that. But also more "capacity", so arrests can be made for obstruction/assault. So you're adding quite a bit to your convoy. But seems overdue. Again, tactical considerations vary, as well as resources.

But I don't think this is a hopeless measure/counter-measure dynamic. Tasers rubber bullets + arrests/prosecutions, if served generously, will decrease the appetite for this nonsense.

And Blonde Morticia, not all the perps are danger-hair idiots. Some are fit, young-ish, borderline psycho idiots, and violent. So need to be taken seriously.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 08:33 PM (1m82a)

127 Mahavishnu Orchestra, back when they were still playing in John's mom's basement:
youtube.com/watch?v=OMTXjmVd6AI

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:34 PM (TwZXH)

128 using whatever means is necessary to do so. I am giving Total Authorization for ICE to protect itself, just like they protect the Public. I never want to see a car carrying a Law Enforcement Officer attacked again! AUTHORIZATION IMMEDIATELY GRANTED FOR ARREST AND INCARCERATION. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 08:34 PM (/U5Yz)

129 >>Whatever passes for the band is at Ninigret Aug 29th, Jack

Rythym and Roots. You headed to it?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:34 PM (viF8m)

130 Breakfast for dinner. Do it once a month in our house. Always a winner.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 08:35 PM (1SaWO)

131 125 Weapons free.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 08:36 PM (gm9Sb)

132 Stateless there are non-lethal sonic devices. Have seen/experienced them demonstrated. Pretty amazing. Don't know about a "brown note", but intolerable decibels, yes. Essentially disables the targets, who can't do much other than try to deal with the noise. At the time it was being marketed mostly for ships - think the heyday of the Somalia piracy thing - and the bulk and power requirements really weren't suitable for normal vehicles or land situations.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 08:36 PM (1m82a)

133 131 Five years too late, but I'll take it as a W!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:37 PM (TwZXH)

134 Breakfast for dinner. Do it once a month in our house. Always a winner.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 08:35 PM (1SaWO)

I’m doing that tonight.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:37 PM (VofaG)

135 BAMN from the Oval Office.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 08:37 PM (gKWVE)

136 Don't get how interference with ICE would be any different than trying to stop the FBI

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 08:37 PM (+qU29)

137 hey the Rockies are actually winning!

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 08:38 PM (gKWVE)

138 Rythym and Roots. You headed to it?
Posted by: JackStraw

Nah, got a wedding in San Diego the week before.
And also contemplating maybe Texas, not getting any younger.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 08:39 PM (n4GiU)

139 Forget everything else (the important things).

At times like this I just like to pause and savor a US head of state who talks like a brash Queens businessman.

"SLIMEBALLS"

Having at times suffered as a speechwriter for typical bland Beltway figures who know/are capable of nothing beyond mind-numbingly platitudinous dreck, this stuff is genuinely hilarious and gratifying.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 08:39 PM (1m82a)

140 12ga riot guns are cool.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 08:39 PM (/U5Yz)

141 using whatever means is necessary to do so. I am giving Total Authorization for ICE to protect itself, just like they protect the Public. I never want to see a car carrying a Law Enforcement Officer attacked again! AUTHORIZATION IMMEDIATELY GRANTED FOR ARREST AND INCARCERATION. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Just my opinion - people chucking rocks etc. at ICE are likely far worse than the illegal they were going to pick up and should be the priority.
And the illegals will still be there tomorrow.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 08:40 PM (/lPRQ)

142 My problem is breakfast at lunch, dinner at 3 and lunch at midnight

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 08:40 PM (+qU29)

143 From Insty:

" David Gergen, trusted White House advisor to four US presidents across decades, dies at 83."

Oh noes!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 11, 2025 08:40 PM (/HDaX)

144 🔥 BREAKING: Trump just cut a new deal with NATO:

The U.S. will send weapons to Ukraine — but NATO will pay 100% of the cost.

No endless checks. No more blank slates.

Trump just flipped the script on Ukraine.

Putin screwed the pooch

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 08:41 PM (GITLP)

145 hey the Rockies are actually winning!
Posted by: gKWVE

Yeah but the Appalachian Mountains are older!!

So there!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 08:41 PM (cYBz/)

146 well, Chateau D'Eez is rocking to old Grateful Dead from last century, lol ...

never even knew (b/4 yootoob) that I attended several of the "33 Essential Dates of Deadology", all unknowing at the time.
what a long, strange trip it's been, indeed; & I am so grateful for every minute of it, may it continue for a long, long time more.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 08:42 PM (dKEEs)

147 But make pizza, using store dough, basil and oregano from garden, sweet pepper and pepperoni. Did a great job.

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 08:42 PM (+qU29)

148 So an investigation is only legit if they find the target guilty?
Posted by: polynikes
-------------------

They admitted withholding information in order to impede President Trump in the 2020 election.
And she folded the investigation?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 08:42 PM (Ri+6K)

149
The U.S. will send weapons to Ukraine — but NATO will pay 100% of the cost.

No endless checks. No more blank slates.

Trump just flipped the script on Ukraine.

Putin screwed the pooch
Posted by: SMOD

===============

That's fvckin' genius.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 08:43 PM (UmB+t)

150 Bravo, Skip!

nothing beats fresh from the garden!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 08:43 PM (dKEEs)

151 Skip, it isn't. Feds have similar laws, they're pretty much standard for all law enforcement of course. That's why many have been impatient with all this. But again, ICE/CBP and even BORTAC (BP's SWAT) have to use their judgement in a given situation. Numbers.

With surveillance of ICE/BP (another amazing thing - gotta think there's a criminal culpability in all that), deception has been used, and will be used again, to fool the idiots. With more resources (soon, not yet), they might be able to pull more spoofing and misdirection ops.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 08:43 PM (1m82a)

152
They admitted withholding information in order to impede President Trump in the 2020 election.
And she folded the investigation?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others

Seems that way.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 08:43 PM (/U5Yz)

153 Anti ICE rabble rouser and general trouble maker. "Hey, who are those guys that just got off that unmarked bus. Grey uniforms with FS on them?" His pal. "Uh oh, I heard about it. Flying Squad. The fascists put together a special unit. Texas Rangers, Arkansas State Police, and Ohio Highway Patrol. Word is they don't feed 'em for twelve hours before deployment, just to make 'em mean."

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 08:43 PM (gm9Sb)

154 LRAD, that's the system. I guess smaller systems now exist and have been used ashore.

Don't think the maritime version ever was widely adopted.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 08:44 PM (1m82a)

155 "The U.S. will send weapons to Ukraine — but NATO will pay 100% of the cost."

I like it!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:44 PM (TwZXH)

156 specially the old slam-fire Ithaca 11s

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 08:45 PM (dKEEs)

157 Stairway to Stardom? Hmmm. Looks more like Rope Ladder to Obscurity.

Posted by: Paco at July 11, 2025 08:50 PM (mADJX)

158 Breakfast for dinner. Do it once a month in our house. Always a winner.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 08:35 PM (1SaWO)

I’m doing that tonight.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:37 PM (VofaG)

I love breakfast for dinner. I usually do not eat until around lunchtime most days, maybe some yogurt in the morning. And coffee. Lots of coffee.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Cynical Member of Generation X at July 11, 2025 08:50 PM (0aYVJ)

159 The U.S. will send weapons to Ukraine — but NATO will pay 100% of the cost."

I like it!
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:44 PM (TwZXH)

I also like that scenario. I was willing though to swallow the cost since Putin fucked up and lied to Trump giving him no choice but to resume the weapons supply. Otherwise Trump would have been his bitch.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:51 PM (VofaG)

160 Couple of people requested an update at the end of my 1st day's ride. Posted earlier, but got willpower almost immediately.

Here it is again.

Posted this morning that I was taking the weekend to ride the motorcycle off road for 300 miles of the Trans-America Trail, from Elkton,TN -to- just Sounth of Corinth, MS. Made it to my 1st night stop over in Waynesdorro, TN.

As luck would have it, I went down in a very low speed (like 1mph low speed) water crossing. Mossy moldy slick rock under about 8" of water. Could see the bottom. Had my feet out like training wheels to help support the bike, but the front wheel caught a small rock Crack and slipped right out from under me. Broke the left mirror, and drenched my lef leg quad muscles. This puts and end to my trip because I won't be able to lift the bike if I drop it again.

Ice, ibuprofen, elevation. I'll head home in the morning. This summer moose cock. Was looking forward to the rest of the trip.

Made multiple water crossings safely, one that was almost 2' deep too! Dang slippery full sunlight moss on the rock got me.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 08:51 PM (lKa8O)

161 TwZXH)

134 Breakfast for dinner. Do it once a month in our house. Always a winner.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 08:35 PM (1SaWO)

I’m doing that tonight.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:37 PM (VofaG)

I love eggs, all ways of cooking with eggs. I’ve gotten where I can whip together an Omelette or a Fritata (really just a baked omelette) in no time at all. I do something along those lines for supper fairly often.

Btw I’ve been told that eggs are the basis of most French cuisine.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 08:52 PM (Hlfhp)

162 " David Gergen, trusted White House advisor to four US presidents across decades, dies at 83."

I will always cherish Andrew Ferguson's characterization of David Gergen as a "goggle-eyed melon head".

Posted by: Paco at July 11, 2025 08:52 PM (mADJX)

163 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 08:52 PM (Hlfhp)

Fried Egg on a hamburger is getting popular in my area.

There is a restaurant where I go frequently to order their BLTE. Delicious.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:55 PM (VofaG)

164 I use eggs a lot - the Costco egg whites are a good time and money saver and a nice way to spin out the protein. The texture suffers a little compared to the real deal but it's worth it especially when you're doing them so often.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 08:56 PM (E0p3T)

165 The late, great, Rush Limbaugh called him David Rodham Gergen. I miss el Rushbo.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Cynical Member of Generation X at July 11, 2025 08:56 PM (0aYVJ)

166 Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 08:51 PM (lKa8O)

That sucks, hope you heal up quickly.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 08:56 PM (VofaG)

167 I will always cherish Andrew Ferguson's characterization of David Gergen as a "goggle-eyed melon head".
Posted by: Paco at July 11, 2025 08:52 PM (mADJX)

Pretty much on point.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 11, 2025 08:57 PM (/HDaX)

168 How many people actually 'trusted' David gergen?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 08:57 PM (Yamow)

169 161 Breakfast for dinner. While this area isn't noted for high cuisine, we do have some really good old school diners. All serve breakfast all day and the rare times I go into one it seems popular. Now, when I lived in Erie PA, one of the dinors (that's how they spell it) had a really strange, really good compromise. The meatball omelet. Don't knock it until you try it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 08:57 PM (gm9Sb)

170 In the early days of the Russia hoax, I used to watch Hannity, shudder, on nights when John Solomon was on. In my opinion he was one of the first to start unraveling the hoax even if he flew a bit below the radar.

So take this for what it's worth but he isn't a clickbait guy. Watch the video and make your own decision.

https://tinyurl.com/5c2pr727

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)

171 A pleasant evening to all, Cafe goers.

"Breakfast for dinner." Yep. Scrambled eggs for me tonight.

I've been known to eat leftover pizza for breakfast, too.

Posted by: Official Delurker likes any meal any time of day at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (ERua+)

172
That sucks, hope you heal up quickly.

Posted by: polynikes

It's just bruising. Hurts, and is very painful when I put weight on it. But not broken. I'll live. Got a date with a hot iron to seal in the dirt I rubbed on it tomorrow when I get back home.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (lKa8O)

173 I saw 'This Summer Moose Cock' open for Broken Peach at the Palladium in '21.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 08:59 PM (Yamow)

174 It's just bruising. Hurts, and is very painful when I put weight on it. But not broken. I'll live. Got a date with a hot iron to seal in the dirt I rubbed on it tomorrow when I get back home.
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (lKa8O)

Ouch!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 11, 2025 08:59 PM (/HDaX)

175 Bif you got further than I would have

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 08:59 PM (+qU29)

176 Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)

Hmmm.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 11, 2025 09:00 PM (/HDaX)

177 Bif hope your icing it

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:01 PM (+qU29)

178 This Summer Moose Cock

I swear I'm gonna turn off autocucomber and go commando again. I'd rather deal with typos over stoopid substitutions that I miss.

This sux moose cock.

Eff of autocucomber

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 09:01 PM (lKa8O)

179 I've been known to eat leftover pizza for breakfast, too.
Posted by: Official Delurker likes any meal any time of day at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (ERua+)

Left over pizza doesn’t last long enough to make it to breakfast for me. Usually it becomes a midnight snack.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 09:02 PM (VofaG)

180 177 Bif hope your icing it

Posted by: Skip

I did. And am continuing to do so.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 09:02 PM (lKa8O)

181 Great, now seeing Stairway to Stardom clips on my YouTube

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:02 PM (+qU29)

182 Bridgette Macron is looking more and more like a Gelfling.

Is this important?

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 09:02 PM (D7oie)

183 Left over pizza doesn’t last long enough to make it to breakfast for me. Usually it becomes a midnight snack.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 09:02 PM (VofaG)

Thinking about it I guess the solution is to buy a bigger pizza.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 09:03 PM (VofaG)

184
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)

Hmmm.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

=============

John Solomon is no cuck.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 09:03 PM (UmB+t)

185 BifBewalski, glad you're OK! It was still a fun adventure I hope.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:03 PM (TwZXH)

186 83? Gergen was 83 when I used to listen to him back in the '80's.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:03 PM (dDmld)

187

Could we have kippers for breakfast
Mummy dear, Mummy dear?
They gotta' have 'em in Texas
'Cause everyone's a millionaire

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 09:03 PM (63Dwl)

188 🔥 BREAKING: Trump just cut a new deal with NATO:

The U.S. will send weapons to Ukraine — but NATO will pay 100% of the cost.

No endless checks. No more blank slates.

Trump just flipped the script on Ukraine.

Putin screwed the pooch
Posted by: SMOD
====

but NATO will pay 100% of the cost.
NATO - aka the US

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 09:05 PM (/lPRQ)

189 Summer Moose Cock

Sounds like a light ale brand they serve in Key West .

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 09:05 PM (VofaG)

190 "Gergen was 83 when I used to listen to him back in the '80's."

I wonder how many gigawatt-hours of energy were wasted pumping his talking head through the ether and the tubes.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:05 PM (TwZXH)

191 170 In the early days of the Russia hoax, I used to watch Hannity, shudder, on nights when John Solomon was on. In my opinion he was one of the first to start unraveling the hoax even if he flew a bit below the radar.

So take this for what it's worth but he isn't a clickbait guy. Watch the video and make your own decision.

https://tinyurl.com/5c2pr727

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:58 PM (viF8m)

Interesting.

A special prosecutor not aimed at a GOP President? Unusual.

Posted by: davidt at July 11, 2025 09:05 PM (i0F8b)

192
Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 08:51 PM (lKa8O

===========

Ouch, Bif! Sorry such a cool trip got cut short.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 09:05 PM (UmB+t)

193 Bongino turned me on to John Solomon.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:06 PM (TwZXH)

194 My grandmother said she only liked two kinds of pie, hot and cold. When I stayed at their house, breakfast was frequently cold pie.

Very nice. She was right: the flavor doesn't matter. It's the pie-ness that matters.

Posted by: Wenda at July 11, 2025 09:07 PM (8p/ok)

195 186 83? Gergen was 83 when I used to listen to him back in the '80's.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:03 PM (dDmld)

LOL That’s the same thing I was thinking!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:07 PM (Hlfhp)

196 Summer Moose Cock

Sounds like a light ale brand they serve in Key West .
Posted by: polynikes

I know I'm not going to search for it, because it's probably a tranny pr0n actor's name.

Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 09:08 PM (DgGvY)

197
the most likely scenario is a large conspiracy case and it starts in the middle of July 2016

==============

Statute of limitations?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 09:08 PM (UmB+t)

198 183 "Left over pizza doesn’t last long enough to make it to breakfast"

If you put anchovies on the pizza then leftovers will make it to breakfast. Yum !

Posted by: Next2Nothing at July 11, 2025 09:09 PM (tA1/w)

199 specially the old slam-fire Ithaca 11s
Posted by: sock_rat_eez
----
11 ?

I know the Model 37, but not 11

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 09:10 PM (XeU6L)

200 but NATO will pay 100% of the cost.
NATO - aka the US
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

We're only 2/3 of NATO's budget, so I guess the Art of the Deal got us a 1/3 discount?

Posted by: mikeski at July 11, 2025 09:12 PM (DgGvY)

201 BifBewalski

Don't stop riding. If you ain't fallin you ain't riding they told me
Also nobody should ride a motorcycle until they have ridden a motorcycle for 5 years first.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 09:12 PM (7oI5w)

202 Morticia I believe the SOL on a conspiracy case "tolls" from the last act thereof, which can include acts of concealment of the previous, er, acts. That is, the shot clock on a conspiracy may start looong after the initial, underlying acts.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 09:14 PM (1m82a)

203 So take this for what it's worth but he isn't a clickbait guy. Watch the video and make your own decision.

====
Would love to see it, but not holding my breath in the meantime.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 09:14 PM (n4GiU)

204 Rode home from steamboat springs vintage races with painful tendinitis one year.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 09:14 PM (7oI5w)

205 "Usually it becomes a midnight snack."

I call that Breakfast, Part 1. :-)

Posted by: Official Delurker likes any meal any time of day at July 11, 2025 09:14 PM (ERua+)

206 206 "Usually it becomes a midnight snack."

I call that Breakfast, Part 1. :-)

Posted by: Official Delurker likes any meal any time of day at July 11, 2025 09:14 PM (ERua+)

Pre-First-Breakfast.

Posted by: Pippen at July 11, 2025 09:15 PM (i0F8b)

207 202 Ha! I wrecked three Honda 450s way back when. Lived to tell the tale, but I shouldn't have.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:16 PM (TwZXH)

208 Don't stop riding. If you ain't fallin you ain't riding they told me
Also nobody should ride a motorcycle until they have ridden a motorcycle for 5 years first.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty
----
As often as not, I see MC's in parking lots with scars of one sort or another. Watching riders on the road, I'm not surprised. They all think that they can ride fast on public roads...and also think that they have skills.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 09:16 PM (XeU6L)

209 anchovies on the pizza

Mana from above.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 09:16 PM (7oI5w)

210 >>Statute of limitations?

That's the beautiful part of a conspiracy, the clock on the statute of limitations for a conspiracy starts with the last overt act of the conspiracy. Everything that happened as part of the conspiracy is fair game.

According to Solomon, the last act of the conspiracy case the DOJ is bringing happened in 2024 with the Democrats lawfare to try and keep Trump from winning.

Now he could be full of shit but if wanted to lose all credibility in a more spectacular fashion if he's wrong then I can't imagine what it would be. He's predicting we will start to see fireworks in the next 10 days so we won't have to wait long.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:16 PM (viF8m)

211 John Solomon is no cuck.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 09:03 PM (UmB+t)

I'm just hoping he's right.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at July 11, 2025 09:16 PM (/HDaX)

212 Hi Ace.i mostly lurk here. But I love and appreciate this Cafe.
Thank you so much!
It always does my heart good ❣❣🐕🐕!

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 11, 2025 09:16 PM (L9kkv)

213 The U.S. will send weapons to Ukraine — but NATO will pay 100% of the cost.

No endless checks. No more blank slates.

Trump just flipped the script on Ukraine.

Putin screwed the pooch
Posted by: SMOD

If we're really lucky, NATO will say "hell no" and kick us out of the club.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 09:17 PM (/ephy)

214 there goes another squirrel:

JohnMcCloy 7h

Bannon asks " WHO GOVERNS THIS COUNTRY? Is it a shadowy network of intelligence OR DO THE PEOPLE OF THE U.S. GOVERN?
@realannapaulina says SHE SUPPORTS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR on the Epstein case & she says the public should be treated like adults and the rollout similar to the JFK Files.
@JackPosobiec " Dershowitz came out and said THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED..Epstein's lawyer himself said it was being suppressed."
Bannon says mandate 1.. we must go to the judge to unseal the documents and any piece of information released by the SPECIAL COUNSEL. Bannon says the 2nd mandate they must impanel a criminal grand jury to look at what @MikeBenzCyber is talking about regarding intelligence coordination.
Anna says people were promised information & then it was not released & regardless of what Dan Bongino & Kash would like to release THEY CANNOT DO IT WITH APPROVAL FROM DOJ. She is right on the money
cont

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:18 PM (Ri+6K)

215 cont

THEY CANNOT DO IT WITH APPROVAL FROM DOJ. She is right on the money
Steve highlights The only way for this FIRESTORM TO PASS is for the pepes & hardcords just say we had enough. If we lose that 15% of the MAGA movement we will lose.
Jack says, " When Vladimir Putin came out and said to Tucker YOU CANT NEGOTIATE WITH THE PRESIDENT. I TRIED TO THEN I REALIZED THE UNITED STATES IS CONTROLLED BY MEN IN DARK SUITS.”
Jack is 100% correct. We have not had an autonomous President since JFK.
@nataliegwinters makes a key point when she says that the last 4 years after all the farcical charges they brought against Trump, placed Bannon in jail and we have the easiest case there is in front of us. She is right this is a slam dunk

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:18 PM (Ri+6K)

216 Apparently Pentagon confirms that Iranian missile damaged al-Udeid airbase in Qatar. Earlier, open source types had pointed out imagery that showed damage (in particular a large radome that contained comms gear).

Even if allowance is made for typical embellishment and artistic license, Trump's statements on this whole chapter were easily the weirdest and most regrettable to date. Weirdest ever! Nobody's seen anything like it!

Anyway. All that matters is the final score, and we're quite a ways from that.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 09:19 PM (1m82a)

217 You know...seven days without otters makes one week.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 09:21 PM (W/lyH)

218 They all think that they can ride fast on public roads...
Not all.
and also think that they have skills.
Many do.
I had enough skills to know not to hot rod around in public.
Surprised friends when first time on a closed course I was passing THEM, and on a primitive 650.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 09:21 PM (OO69L)

219 And a conspiracy can be prosecuted in any area where a part of the conspiracy took place.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:21 PM (viF8m)

220 >>>were easily the weirdest and most regrettable to date. Weirdest ever! Nobody's seen anything like it!

Anyway. All that matters is the final score, and we're quite a ways from that.
Posted by: rhomboid
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At the cabinet meeting, the way he slammed the door to the reporter on the Epstein question was very out of character.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:22 PM (Ri+6K)

221 Funny post on X from oilfield rando:
“First they came for the illegal alien criminals and I said “haha awesome make sure you get all the illegal alien criminals”

Then they came for the illegal alien farm workers and I said “haha awesome make sure you get all the illegal alien farm workers”

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:23 PM (Hlfhp)

222 My grandmother said she only liked two kinds of pie, hot and cold. When I stayed at their house, breakfast was frequently cold pie.

Very nice. She was right: the flavor doesn't matter. It's the pie-ness that matters.
Posted by: Wenda

Pies of all types are big in Pennsylvania Dutch homes - Grammi made dozens of pies for breakfast, lunch and supper. The normal berry and fruit pies of course but also, walnut, corn, meat pies, shoo-fly (wet bottom of course!), cake pies, funny cake pies, tomato pie, Schnitz pie, Funeral (really just raisin) pie, Milk pie, Sugar Pie, Montgomery (lemon flavored molasses custard) pie, and many, many more.

You needed some of these bad boys so that you have the energy to get back to the baling or setting fenceposts.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 09:23 PM (cYBz/)

223 So, when there are many lovely critters, I guess I have to wonder why things go all political...
Eh. I guess it's just me....😒

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 11, 2025 09:24 PM (L9kkv)

224
A little mini-SMOD event two weeks ago, June 27th:
https://tinyurl.com/28hzc8jt

A bolide made quite a daytime fireball over the SE, seen from Georgia and SC. There's some cell phone video of it, and satellites saw the flash. A tiny piece of it likely punched through the roof of a house in Georgia. Looks like a little bullet went through the roof and ceiling and left a mess on the floor of the house.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 09:25 PM (w6EFb)

225 "Pre-First-Breakfast."

I read that as "Pre-Fix-Breakfast," lol

Posted by: Official Delurker likes any meal any time of day at July 11, 2025 09:26 PM (ERua+)

226 At the cabinet meeting, the way he slammed the door to the reporter on the Epstein question was very out of character.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:22 PM (Ri+6K)

Actually it was very in-character when Trump wants to say “shut up and quit talking about this stuff!” I

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:26 PM (Hlfhp)

227 BifBewalski, glad you're OK! It was still a fun adventure I hope.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird
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Ouch, Bif! Sorry such a cool trip got cut short.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Don't stop riding. If you ain't fallin you ain't riding they told me
Also nobody should ride a motorcycle until they have ridden a motorcycle for 5 years first.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats

I'll live. I've been riding since at least '75 or '76. Been down twice counting today. What i did learn though. Was to ID the black mossy stuff and then walk the water crossing for a good line. Possibly carrying gravel and dumping it on that line so I have traction. Peeves me that I found a non-mossy line in the shade about twenty feet upstream. Experiencing painful lessons learned is the best teacher.

I'll do this again when the quads in my left leg heal.

I had fun today. Will do this again.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 09:27 PM (lKa8O)

228 I have few regrets, very few. But not becoming proficient on the motorcycle is one. The few times I rode it was exhilarating, but I never had funds for a bike. Now I am old, and am no longer confident of my balance. Hell, I don't even climb ladders anymore.

Oh well. Still got my pickup truck and a bunch of road atlases. Tomorrow me and the missus are heading up to Atlanta, Idaho.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Cynical Member of Generation X at July 11, 2025 09:27 PM (0aYVJ)

229 >>Dude ... you are not intellectually consistent to say the least.

You are, Scogg. For what passes for intellect.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:28 PM (viF8m)

230 Bif!
Bummer.
Don't forget ice for the whiskey too.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 09:29 PM (W/lyH)

231 Ok. I don't belong here either...

I'll head on up to ONT....lots of times I don't fit in there either, but a gal has to try....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 11, 2025 09:29 PM (L9kkv)

232 227 We got a new interstellar object cruising through the solar system too.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:29 PM (TwZXH)

233 224 There was a gas station just north of Meadville PA where the owner let the Amish set up to sell baked goods. Best pies, and my Dad was a baker. Also, in Erie, there was a black lady and her daughters that would sell very small pies or very large tarts in the bars, and were always welcome.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 09:29 PM (gm9Sb)

234 Tonypete,

My grandmother would have worshipped your grammi.

Posted by: Wenda at July 11, 2025 09:30 PM (8p/ok)

235 I remember that night. My voice was a bit scratchy. Still have the checked suit.

https://tinyurl.com/pn6y8pdc

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:30 PM (viF8m)

236 I never even had a try at driving a motorcycle

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:32 PM (+qU29)

237 Might as well put this here. The ONT would be too light to put it there.

In the ONT comment #153, buddhaha addressed the question of ICE (and other LEO) not being identified for doxxing, but also "to be held accountable for any illegal behavior." The commenter suggested "identifying 6 digit numbers that are large enough to be read at 10 feet, front and back of tac vest…." See the comment for full idea:
acecomments.mu.nu/?post=415618#c41339497

That seemed possible to me, although any code can be cracked, any system hacked.

You know those rubber masks that look realistic and can fool facial ID methods? (Search on "realistic rubber masks" if you don't know about them.) It might be expensive and somewhat uncomforable, but what if the officers wore those? Wouldn't look like they were wearing masks, but wouldn't be identifiable. Keep track of which cop was Mark Twain, which was Bob Hope….

Just an idea off the top of my head. Probably has more bugs than I've thought of.

Posted by: mindful webworker - peace and candy hearts be upon you at July 11, 2025 09:32 PM (+kBwA)

238 I started when I was young with a Honda 100 - loved that bike! Best ever was an Enduro 250 on dirt. But I could never reconcile the fear of being on something so small with cars around me, so I never did anything bigger, or non-dirt.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:33 PM (Hlfhp)

239
This piece of debris that made that little fireball was part of the Beta Taurid stream. The Tunguska event was likely a large chunk of Beta Taurid.

The controversial Younger Dryas impact hypothesis (global reset about 12K years ago) might have been really large Beta Taurid debris.

The bad thing about these is they come out of the sun relative to the earth's position when it crosses the stream, making them hard to detect.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 09:33 PM (w6EFb)

240 '3I/ATLAS is currently located about 420 million miles away ... and will remain at a distance of at least 1.6 astronomical units.'

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:34 PM (TwZXH)

241 Hi Ace.i mostly lurk here. But I love and appreciate this Cafe.
Thank you so much!
It always does my heart good ❣❣🐕🐕!
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 11, 2025

***
True enough, Miss Marie. The frequent Friday afternoon movie or entertainment threads do too. When I worked, I often left the office on Friday just as the thread was getting started. Today I was able to enjoy almost all of it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 09:35 PM (omVj0)

242 Perhaps Trump slammed the door on the Epstein questions because he is tired of listening to people who get all their ideas about kompromat and human trafficking and government conspiracies and the legal system from ridiculous movies and TV shows screaming about something they have no clue about, but which has become a mythology so dear to them that they can't pay any attention to the things that are actually happening. I know I am.

Posted by: Wiese at July 11, 2025 09:35 PM (W2RQ1)

243 Are Laura Loomer and Liz Wheeler valid sources?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:35 PM (Ri+6K)

244 '3I/ATLAS is currently located about 420 million miles away ... and will remain at a distance of at least 1.6 astronomical units.'
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:34 PM (TwZXH)

So you're saying "Do Not Panic."

What if it's Vogons?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Cynical Member of Generation X at July 11, 2025 09:36 PM (0aYVJ)

245 I don't know Liz Wheeler, but Laura Loomer is about as valid a source as Vox Day or the Conservative Treehouse--i.e., not at all.

Posted by: Wiese at July 11, 2025 09:36 PM (W2RQ1)

246 >>Because the ultimate show would be "This is my argument, and even Scogg would have to agree".

>>Not you. Not ever.

I don't care if people agree with me. Particularly you. Everyone should have their own opinions and not everything is a fight to the death.

You might not have noticed but that's pretty much the entire purpose of this country.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:37 PM (viF8m)

247 'So you're saying "Do Not Panic."'

I would NEVER say "Do Not Panic."

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:37 PM (TwZXH)

248 >> '3I/ATLAS is currently located

"3I" means third interstellar, and is just the 3rd confirmed object of interstellar origin. This one is the fastest of the three, moving like a bat out of hell. It's shooting through close to the ecliptic, and will get close to Mars. No chance of impact, but it will get close in solar system scale terms.

It's moving so fast, it's path will be just barely bent by the sun.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 09:37 PM (w6EFb)

249 243 People say Henry Ford put the world on wheels. Well, maybe the US. In Asia it was Honda. I had a picture in my scrap book taken from a Cyclo cab in Saigon on a busy street. Honda 50s and 90s as far as you could see. Also, a mystery to me has always been young Vietnamese girls in ao dais sitting side saddle on the back of their man's Honda, not seeming to be hanging on to anything.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 09:38 PM (gm9Sb)

250 Scogg and Scogg! What is Scogg?

Posted by: Kara at July 11, 2025 09:39 PM (i0F8b)

251
If 3I starts to decelerate, and then looks to be inserting itself into a heliocentric orbit around 1AU, then it would be time to panic. And throw out the welcome mat.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 09:39 PM (w6EFb)

252 barely bent by the sun.
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That would be an awesome name for a metal band.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:40 PM (0aYVJ)

253 I had enough skills to know not to hot rod around in public.
Surprised friends when first time on a closed course I was passing THEM, and on a primitive 650.
Posted by: Commissar
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I should have been more explicit. By 'all' I meant the number of sport bikes that I have seen that evidence some variety of road rash, and my observation of squids on the road.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 09:40 PM (XeU6L)

254 Bif, I'm simultaneously sorry to hear your road trip got sidelined, and glad to hear you were only bruised and had no broken bones. There's considerable freedom to a motorcycle road trip, but the chances of damage to my personal body would deter me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 09:40 PM (omVj0)

255 No movie thread? I'm in Vermont. My parents' place here has some satellite with limited movie choices. In the 80s classics section, my top four choices (there aren't many choices) are OVER THE TOP, DIRTY ROTTEN SCOUNDRELS, ROBOCOP, and THE DARK CRYSTAL. Which one should I go for?

Posted by: Lex at July 11, 2025 09:41 PM (PRpEI)

256 Movie on TCM and not what's listed, old character actor but forgot his name. Sure he ended sadly shooting himself after a long illness

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:41 PM (+qU29)

257 Robocop, featuring Les Nesman's evil twin.

Posted by: davidt at July 11, 2025 09:42 PM (i0F8b)

258 Lexington I know, seems like Saturday to me too

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:42 PM (+qU29)

259 You are wearing me out.

Posted by: Blah ... another Paul Newman role at July 11, 2025 09:42 PM (WfOMS)

260 256 Movie on TCM and not what's listed, old character actor but forgot his name. Sure he ended sadly shooting himself after a long illness
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:41 PM (+qU29)

Alfalfa?

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:42 PM (Hlfhp)

261
the clock on the statute of limitations for a conspiracy starts with the last overt act of the conspiracy.

Posted by: JackStraw

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Ah, I just listened to it again. That traitor Obama and that manipulator Hillary Clinton would be named. Probably not tried, but it would be fun to watch people hang on their account.

Filing it under too good to be true for now, though.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 09:42 PM (UmB+t)

262 Movie on TCM and not what's listed, old character actor but forgot his name. Sure he ended sadly shooting himself after a long illness
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025

***
Which movie, Skip? Was it George Sanders? I'm pretty sure he committed suicide late in his life.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 09:43 PM (omVj0)

263
Here's a page with a graphic of 3I ATLAS's trajectory:

https://tinyurl.com/ymz2mdv4

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 09:43 PM (w6EFb)

264 Robocop, if you haven't seen it lately, or at all. Deliciously cynical movie.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:43 PM (TwZXH)

265 Posted by: Lex at July 11, 2025 09:41 PM (PRpEI)

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

Which reminds me, been waaaaay to long since I watched that one.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:43 PM (0aYVJ)

266 Suddenly I have an inspiration for the TXMoMe. I am breaking out the poster board and my glitter glue…stand back! 🎤🎵 stairway to stardom….hmmm hmmmm mmmm stairway to stardommmmm🎶🎶

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 09:43 PM (p4NUW)

267 Scogg and Scogg! What is Scogg?

Posted by: Kara at July 11, 2025 09:39 PM (i0F8b)

Shut Up is Scogg !!!

Posted by: Blah ... another Paul Newman role at July 11, 2025 09:43 PM (WfOMS)

268 Man. This guy was a real psycho killer:

https://tinyurl.com/64bufmu3

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 09:44 PM (BI5O2)

269 "Let’s take a journey back in time to explore the origins of Honda’s venture into making cars. It all began in 1963, when Honda introduced its first production car, the Honda S500, marking a significant milestone for the company."
https://www.meanmetalmotors.com/
honda-start-making-cars/
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Henry pre-dates them a bit.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:44 PM (Ri+6K)

270
The woo-woos are already going crazy that 3I ATLAS is some alien probe, like they did with the other two.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at July 11, 2025 09:44 PM (w6EFb)

271 Bif - Have a friend that just finished a ride from Damascus, VA (?) to Selma, AL. Perhaps the same trail?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 09:44 PM (XeU6L)

272 This actor was in lots of Westerns

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:45 PM (+qU29)

273 Robocop, featuring Les Nesman's evil twin.
Posted by: davidt at July 11, 2025 09:42 PM (i0F8b)
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Kurtwood Smith was seriously menacing in that role. I love that guy. He brought some of that to his role as Red Forman in That 70s Show. To great effect.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:45 PM (0aYVJ)

274 Lex - go for Dirty Rotten Scoundrels! That’s a hilarious one. Not many know it’s a remake of a 1964 movie, and one of those rare instances where the remake is far, far better than the original!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:45 PM (Hlfhp)

275 Al Dershowitz is a lying liar who lies.

That is all.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 11, 2025 09:46 PM (lH8E4)

276 "Here's a page with a graphic of 3I ATLAS's trajectory"

The hyperbola is already flatter than it looked this morning!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:46 PM (TwZXH)

277 =============

Ah, I just listened to it again. That traitor Obama and that manipulator Hillary Clinton would be named. Probably not tried, but it would be fun to watch people hang on their account.

Filing it under too good to be true for now, though.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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There's a lot of low hanging fruit out there.
If the shoe were on the other foot there would be ten show trials going right now.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:46 PM (Ri+6K)

278 "Kurtwood Smith was seriously menacing in that role."

Concur.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:46 PM (TwZXH)

279 I seriously wonder ... is the sound-track "Woke Up This Morning" from the Sopranos ? Or Bruce Springsteen "I Was Born ... In New Jersay !!!". Is that the sound that motivates New Jersey here ?

Because, seriously, I puke every time John Cougar gets played.

Posted by: The Meat Store at July 11, 2025 09:47 PM (WfOMS)

280 Honda introduced its first production car, the Honda S500,
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Had a friend in the service that brought back a Honda S600 with him from Japan. Tiny, and had a chain final drive.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 09:47 PM (XeU6L)

281 Used to enjoy commuting on Boston's SE Expressway on my '80 Suzuki GS1000G, full business suit, audit bag tied to the back rack, possibly sitting upright smoking a cig if traffic was stopped and I was weaving slowly. Other times cruising at 80 inches of more than one car bumper.
Ya gonna die, you're gonna die, worry about it then.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 09:47 PM (n4GiU)

282 Think Sanders said, I've done everything I wanted to do, I'm bored with life.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 09:49 PM (Ri+6K)

283 I seriously wonder ... is the sound-track "Woke Up This Morning" from the Sopranos ? Or Bruce Springsteen "I Was Born ... In New Jersay !!!". Is that the sound that motivates New Jersey here ?

Because, seriously, I puke every time John Cougar gets played.
Posted by: The Meat Store at July 11, 2025 09:47 PM (WfOMS)

Overkill.

*looks for Bersekrer*

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:49 PM (0aYVJ)

284 Perhaps Trump slammed the door on the Epstein questions because he is tired of listening to people who get all their ideas about kompromat and human trafficking and government conspiracies and the legal system from ridiculous movies and TV shows screaming about something they have no clue about, but which has become a mythology so dear to them that they can't pay any attention to the things that are actually happening. I know I am.
Posted by: Wiese at July 11, 2025 09:35 PM (W2RQ1)

Yeah, that's not it.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 11, 2025 09:49 PM (+O1VQ)

285 I was so scared I typo-ed Berserker.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:50 PM (0aYVJ)

286 There's a new Bondi toy out.

https://tinyurl.com/mrpx5dca

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 09:50 PM (/U5Yz)

287 Wished I had kept my Honda Fit, it was a great knock around hatch.

If Honda ever brings it back to the US, I'm getting one.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 09:51 PM (XV/Pl)

288 Perhaps Trump slammed the door on the Epstein questions because he is tired of listening to people who get all their ideas about kompromat and human trafficking and government conspiracies and the legal system from ridiculous movies and TV shows screaming about something they have no clue about, but which has become a mythology so dear to them that they can't pay any attention to the things that are actually happening. I know I am.

Posted by: Wiese at July 11, 2025 09:35 PM (W2RQ1)

I doubt it though since you made those people up.

Anyone can have a dumb idea or three about what really happened around Epstein but if they do it's only because sufficient answers have not been provided.

Let's start here, Mr. Reality Check - What percentage of high profile people who had recently been on suicide watch are successful in offing themselves while in custody? I'll give you a hint: use Jeffrey Epstein as the numerator.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 09:51 PM (E0p3T)

289 Because, seriously, I puke every time John Cougar gets played.
Posted by: The Meat Store
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My favorite pic of Cougar
https://shorter.me/gytex

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 09:51 PM (XeU6L)

290 The meatball omelet. Don't knock it until you try it.
Posted by: bill in arkansas

Best use of left over beef stew = beef stew omelet.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2025 09:51 PM (mlg/3)

291 I've seen Robocop so many times I might not do it again. But the role of Clarence Botticker (sic) is inspired. A geeky looking villain with no muscle or anything. Just his menace.

Dirty Rotten Scoundrels is great too.

I might go for Over the Top. I think it would be interesting to do a thread on the movies of Golan Globus. Lots of 80s cheese. Merchant Ivory they were not but certainly added something interesting to the film canon.

Posted by: Lex at July 11, 2025 09:51 PM (PRpEI)

292 284 It might have been an ordinary fit of pique, but that was the wrong time to indulge it IMHO.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:52 PM (TwZXH)

293 I'm late in saying so, but I am so sad to hear that Ciampino passed this week.

Joyenz, I don't know if you are here, but if you read this, please know you and your family are in this mostly-lurker's prayers.

Posted by: Official Delurker at July 11, 2025 09:52 PM (ERua+)

294 Richard Farnsworth

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:53 PM (+qU29)

295 "I think it would be interesting to do a thread on the movies of Golan Globus."

Yes it would!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:53 PM (TwZXH)

296 True story:

In Corsicana a few years ago, the first guy I met was Berserker. We got acquainted. then his wife arrives: introductions, etc. then she says" Are you the guy that likes Overkill?"

uhh...

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:54 PM (0aYVJ)

297 It's The Straight Story, guy rides his lawn tractor hundreds of miles to see his brother

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:54 PM (+qU29)

298
There's a lot of low hanging fruit out there.
If the shoe were on the other foot there would be ten show trials going right now.

Posted by: Braenyard

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This is what kills me! and causes me to brace for disappointment. Other than Trump being elected (both times), I think I've never seen an act of vindication as momentous as the Russia Hoaxers being brought to justice.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 09:55 PM (UmB+t)

299 297 That one really surprised me. I didn't expect it to be that good.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:56 PM (TwZXH)

300 think it would be interesting to do a thread on the movies of Golan Globus. Lots of 80s cheese. Merchant Ivory they were not but certainly added something interesting to the film canon.
Posted by: Lex at July 11, 2025 09:51 PM (PRpEI)

I've watched virtually all of them. Probably all. Maybe not. But probably.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 09:56 PM (BI5O2)

301 Richard Farnsworth
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 09:53 PM (+qU29)

He was so awesome. he was the star of my favorite David Lynch movie, The Straight Story.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:57 PM (0aYVJ)

302 Cobra and Invasion USA should be in the Pantheon.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:58 PM (TwZXH)

303 *looks for Bersekrer*

Posted by: Pug Mahon,With a Towel at July 11, 2025 09:49 PM (0aYVJ)

Whatever.

I'm stuck in Indianapolis ... and Billy Joel is so much better than Bruce ... and Bob Seger is better than Bruce ... hell, The Band was better than Bruce.

I might be better than Bruce. But Jersey can keep Bruce. Please.

Posted by: The Meat Store at July 11, 2025 09:58 PM (WfOMS)

304 >>This is what kills me! and causes me to brace for disappointment. Other than Trump being elected (both times), I think I've never seen an act of vindication as momentous as the Russia Hoaxers being brought to justice.

And if the Russia hoaxers are brought to justice you still will have seen and act of vindication any bigger.

Momentus things never happen until they do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:58 PM (viF8m)

305 I'm gonna go watch Cobra right now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 09:59 PM (BI5O2)

306 without commentary ... ;

https://is.gd/Vu9D0t

innit?
& g'night, alla youse!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 09:59 PM (dKEEs)

307 Have a friend that just finished a ride from Damascus, VA (?) to Selma, AL. Perhaps the same trail?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., et

There is a Southeast Back Country Discovery Route (SE BDR) that runs through Selma, going all the way to the beach.

It could be the that trail. The TAT only hits Bama for maybe ten miles around Ft. Payne and another ten or so miles near Florence.

I got this bike to do the BDRs and the TAT. There are some skills that don't cross over from small

Wonder what else I'm blind to? Hope that doesn't hurt to learn.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 09:59 PM (lKa8O)

308 n't

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:00 PM (viF8m)

309 ONT IS NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 10:01 PM (+qU29)

310 Other than Trump being elected (both times),

all 3 times

innit?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 10:01 PM (dKEEs)

311 I've been busy all day and what did I miss?!?!

ace loving on One Cut of the Dead?!?!!

I have to have recommended that here a bunch of times!!! it's amazing!

other than that, hi!

I'm way late but ace asked if we'd seen anything good. I finally saw "Her." did anyone like that? I was ... pleasantly surprised by it. could have used some editing but pretty interesting and sweet

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 11, 2025 10:02 PM (Pv3Rg)

312 Why the heck is everything from screw-tube now? I can’t see anything from it and evening cafe is lost.

Posted by: Nan in AZ at July 11, 2025 10:02 PM (bcfGT)

313 Favorite moment in 'The Straight Story'

Daughter hears gunshot, races downstairs, finds her dad with a rifle at the kitchen window. "What did you do!' she exclaims.

"Shot a squirrel on the bird feeder', he replies.

'Why did you do do that?, she asks.

He replies, 'I didn't like his attitude'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 10:02 PM (XeU6L)

314 NOOD ONT for those who are interested.

https://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=415637

Posted by: mindful webworker - or those who aren't at July 11, 2025 10:03 PM (+kBwA)

315 I'm more interested in the people trying to stop it than the people on the list.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:03 PM (Ri+6K)

316 >>> 138 Rythym and Roots. You headed to it?
Posted by: JackStraw

Nah, got a wedding in San Diego the week before.
And also contemplating maybe Texas, not getting any younger.
Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 08:39 PM (n4GiU)

THE POWER OF BACON COMPELS YOU!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 10:09 PM (ULPxl)

317 Demographics is destiny has a lifetime 1.00 batting average.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 11:23 PM (ImXfC)

318 FART Tubing ...... Let's dew it !!!

Posted by: Mary Cloginstien from Brattleboro, Vt at July 12, 2025 12:08 AM (p+utQ)

The Week in Woke

Zohran Mamdani's mother, a "famous director," lobbied hard to get Gal Gadot disinvited from the Oscars because she's a Jew.

The 2025 Oscars ceremony has drawn renewed attention to New York City mayoral candidate and Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani, thanks in part to his mother's alleged role in a campaign to have Israeli actress Gal Gadot barred from the Academy Awards.
Mira Nair, Mamdani's mother and acclaimed director of Monsoon Wedding, was one of the signatories of a letter demanding that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences disinvite Gadot from presenting at the Oscars. The letter, signed by 21 Academy members and more than 75 other filmmakers, condemned Gadot's "vocal and unwavering support" for Israel's military and described her presence as "deeply offensive."
The letter falsely claimed Israel's actions in Gaza were a "genocide," and accused Gadot of using her celebrity to "endorse violence against innocent civilians." It went on to pressure the Academy to remove Gadot from the ceremony -- a move critics say targets her based solely on her Israeli identity. "This is a moment to choose integrity over complicity," the letter stated. "The Oscars should be a space for artists who uplift humanity, not those who justify its destruction."
A source familiar with the matter told Page Six, "They spent a few hours trying to get Gal removed from the Oscars. It was disgusting." This isn't the first time Nair has aligned herself with anti-Israel activism. In 2013, she joined a cultural boycott and refused to attend a film festival in Haifa.
Mamdani's father, Mahmood Mamdani, is a Columbia University professor and chancellor of Kampala International University in Uganda. He has also drawn scrutiny for anti-Israel comments. In a 2014 speech at Columbia, Mahmood argued that "the longtime security of a Jewish homeland in historic Palestine requires the dismantling of the Jewish state," and stated that "Jews can have a homeland in historic Palestine, but not a state."

There's a "publishing scene" in LA -- they read books in LA? I thought they only read coverages of scripts -- and apparently it's getting "anti-woke," according to woke propaganda rag Rolling Stone.

Rolling Stone doesn't like this revolt against censorship.

Inside the 'Anti-Woke' Literary Scene Growing in L.A.
They felt excluded by "millennial moral censorship" -- but is their work pushing boundaries, or just pushing buttons?
Matt Pegas neatly arranges stacks of books atop the red tablecloth at the reception table in the front yard of the house party. Surrounding the books is a tableau of candles, rose petals, a tarot deck, and packets of wildflower seeds, which guests are encouraged to take home and plant. Midnight will mark the spring equinox, and the pagan decor is meant to celebrate a rebirth, because, they say, after years of being tacitly driven underground, the "anti-woke" arts scene in Los Angeles is ready to blossom in full view.
"We have been in hibernation. We have been in the cold. We've been hiding. Now we're out in the open," says party organizer and emcee Adem Luz Rienspects, clad in a white linen shirt and pants.
The function, held in a single-family home in L.A.'s Lincoln Heights, is, at a glance, your standard collection of Eastside scenesters -- nebbish guys in glasses; handsome bros in black leather jackets; guys with long Seventies rocker hair; doughy, bearded guys in ball caps, accompanied by women several magnitudes hotter than them; a man in a tweedy three-piece suit; a woman who's a dead ringer for Naomi Watts. Several women wear lacy white dresses and flower crowns, in accordance with the theme. The requisite amounts of woo woo and pretension. Nearly everyone is white.

"Nearly everyone" is white in a majority white country. What a crisis. I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

Say, what's the racial composition of Rolling Stone's editorial staff, I wonder...?

...
More generally, the event is an act of defiance against "wokeness," which, these critics say, has for too long stifled free expression, at the expense of creating quality art.
...
"There's a massive cultural pushback against millennial moral censorship," Chris Zeisscheig, a former porn performer turned indie novelist, tells me while watching the party crowd with removed awe.

...
The backlash in historically liberal cultural circles has been deemed the Vibe Shift, a term coined by Substack writer Sean Monahan in 2021, and later adopted by the mainstream press, to describe the growing number of young people rejecting the "woke" identity-based politics largely embraced by the contemporary Left. Wokeness first rose to prominence during the Obama years and went mainstream after the gender reckoning of #MeToo, the racial awakening of Black Lives Matter, and the anti-Trump Resistance of his first term.
For a while, woke had a positive connotation -- co-opted from Black communities, it had come to mean being awoken to the historical wrongs perpetrated against women and people of color. At first, this was a welcome development, a long overdue correction to the racial and gender inequities in artistic endeavors. But after a while, a backlash started brewing, one that felt wokeness was overly censorious and punitive of anyone who dared challenge identitarian political ideals. To them, woke became synonymous with Cancel Culture, people being publicly shunned for their political views, and in some cases losing their career opportunities and social connections over them. To be woke, they believed, was to be scolding and off-putting. That anti-woke movement exploded into public view in recent years, culminating with Trump's re-election last fall.
...

In this way, the alt-lit scene is part of the cyclical nature of pop culture. A school of thought (woke) takes hold, becomes popular among a certain set of creatively-minded young people, becomes so popular that it becomes uncool, only to be replaced by a counter movement (anti-woke), restarting the process. What is transgressive, indie and anti-woke today will one day be normie, derivative, and cringe.
The woke backlash is a manifestation of the horseshoe theory of politics, which posits that the poles of the political spectrum are more alike than different, Pegas says. "The post-Trump Right and the post-Bernie Left merged around creative disaffection somewhere around 2020, 2021," he tells me before his reading. "Culturally, it's about getting rid of woke and the censorship therein."

The left isn't just plotting a fake, Deep-State-organized color revolution for America.

They're also begging foreign countries to intervene in American politics and pursue a policy of regime change, warns Jonathan Turley.

'Hit Us, Please' -- America's Left Issues a 'Broken Arrow' Signal to Europe

"Broken arrow" is arguably the most chilling and desperate order that an American military commander can issue. When faced with an enemy about to overrun a surrounded force, a commander uses it to call in an air or artillery strike on his own position.
This month, many on the American left are issuing their own "broken arrow" signals, including calling on globalist allies to hit the U.S. with sanctions and other measures. They are seeking to achieve through sanctions what they could not achieve through elections.
The most recent such call came from commentator Elie Mystal on "The Joy Reid Show" this week.
"Our country needs to be sanctioned," he said. "We are the bad guys on the world stage. We are a menace to not only free people everywhere, but we are a menace to peaceful people everywhere at this point, and I'm not even going to say that we've only been a menace for the past three or four months."
Mystal's call was hardly a surprise for those familiar with his writings. A regular commentator on MSNBC, he previously called the Constitution "trash" and urged not just the abolition of the U.S. Senate but also of "all voter registration laws."
Yet, he is not alone in signaling that his position is being overrun by his fellow citizens.
After Elon Musk bought Twitter with a pledge to dismantle its censorship system, former Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton called upon Europe to use its infamous Digital Services Act to force him to censor fellow Americans.
Nina Jankowicz, the former head of Biden's infamous Disinformation Governance Board, appeared recently before the European Parliament. She called upon the 27 EU countries to fight against the U.S., which she described as a global threat.
To the delight of globalists, she declared, "Before I describe the details of Russia's recent online influence campaigns, I would like to call upon you to stand firm against another autocracy: The United States of America."
This year, I spoke in Berlin at the World Forum and was surprised to see many Americans joining European leaders in support of the forum's slogan, "A New World Order with European Values." Attended by figures such as Bill and Hillary Clinton, the conference heralded Europe as key to countering the threat posed by the U.S.
Others denounced America as the world's villain with boycotts and protests during Fourth of July celebrations. One leading influencer declared that "this country is beyond f**ked" and encouraged citizens to "walk away from the illusion that they built" around this country.
...
Yet the fact is, this country is not being "overrun." Those are fellow citizens who are calling for these policy changes and rejecting far-left policies. Just as many in Europe are calling on the EU to block far-right democratic victories, many in this country are advocating for the trashing of the Constitution or transnational interventions to reverse political voting trends.
The fact is, the far left is not truly surrounded. They have simply retreated into smaller and smaller echo chambers rather than engage the rest of the country on these issues. Viewed from within the protected spaces of MSNBC or BlueSky, you can feel surrounded, but it remains a type of self-isolation. It is like watching wagons frantically circling on the plains without a hostile in sight. The problem is that most of America has moved on.
In the end, the calls for a globalist intervention are a final desperate call of America's self-isolated left.

CNN's woke, corrupt "medical reporter" Sanjay Gupta pushed masking and social distancing and shutdowns during covid, but now pretends he was skeptical of these measures all along.

Update to the earlier story of Gavin Newsom screaming about Trump's raid on the illegal pot farm that employs illegal aliens and children: Gavin Newsom wasn't just protecting illegals.

He was doing donor service. One of his political donors owns the pot farm.

Of course. We should have seen that coming.

The Bee:

The Austin Fire Department delayed sending swimmers to the areas expecting floods.

The fire chief in Austin, Texas has been accused of not deploying firefighters to help those who were being impacted by flooding that took place in Kerrville County on July 4. Austin Fire Chief Joel G. Baker is accused of issuing a standing order "on June 6 that prevented Austin firefighters from deploying to assist those working to rescue people during the catastrophic 4th of July flooding in Central Texas," per the Austin Monitor.
Baker was accused by the Austin Firefighters Association (AFA) of refusing to deploy the firefighters to Kerr County to aid those impacted by flash floods. The AFA said that it was "absolutely outrageous" and an "egregious dereliction of duty" for him to deny the deployment of the firefighters. The AFA President Bob Nicks has called for his removal and a vote of no confidence will be held online from July 15-17.

Austin's Fire Department chief says DEI, not saving lives or deploying swimmers to save flood victims, is the number-one priority.

London has fallen.

LA residents honored the Spirit of '76 by patriotically conducting Boston Tea Party style raids on jewelry stores. Diversity is very much our strength.

Leftwing women are all ugly hags. Or dudes.

It's hard to believe, but the woke gay dilettante Barack Obama can't build a library. It's one of the many things he's bad at, including keeping his awful wife in line.

This clip is everything.

Sheriff speaks plainly.

JD Vance: The left has no unifying ideology that its Pride Parade Perverts and Jihadist Terror-supporters agree with. All that unites them is hatred of normal Americans.

Pussy femmy Hollywood half-wit Jason Bateman suggests that people need to start going after Trump supporters, and that someone -- maybe the government, it's hard to say who he means -- needs to give Trump supporters a "talking to."

Teaching America's youth.

'I exposed myself to the [...] chapter leader for the local Moms for Liberty'
The Pennsylvania transgender coach who had been canned for inappropriate conduct, was rehired, but ultimately resigned over a porn video showing him smoking meth, recently admitted he was the one who had sent the incriminating video.
David Yates (pictured), who coached tennis at Gettysburg High School and switched to the name "Sasha" in 2022, was not rehired following a pair of incidents which included him allegedly "stripping down to bra and panties" in the girls' locker room.

Note that, as usual, the fetishistic male chooses a "kewl" fake name like the ones you might see in a Young Adult "novel."

Never a Debbie or Bettie or Susan among them.

But Yates later reapplied for the position, and had the backing of many who claimed he'd been let go due to "transphobia." A district solicitor reportedly recommended Yates be rehired so as to avoid a possible lawsuit.
And so, Yates returned as tennis coach after the school board voted 6-2 to (re)hire him.
But months later, Yates resigned after a pornographic video of him smoking meth was emailed to board member Michelle Smyers. Oddly at the time, Smyers also received a text message from Yates' number which said "I have information about Sasha Yates that you need to know."
A subsequent text from Yates informed Smyers that he planned to resign.
The texts appear to make sense now; a recent report by Reduxx notes Yates admitted to emailing the video to Smyers himself in a "'sissy' fetish forum":

"[In] October 2024, I met up with a guy from Grindr and went to his motel room. Was filmed getting spun and being f*cked by raw bbc. The video was sent to a member of the board at the school I worked at. That was my 'coming out' as a meth whore and I was fired," Yates posted on May 22.
"What I've never admitted is that yes, the video was sent from someone else's email address, but I actually wrote the email and hit the send button. I exposed myself to the member of the school board who is the chapter leader for the local Moms for Liberty. She has been trying to fire me for the last 2 year and this gave her everything she needed to legitimately fire me," he added.
"Since this happened I have not been able to find employment. I apply for jobs but don't even get an interview." ...
When asked whether he regretted his decision, Yates said, "There are parts of it that I might do a little differently, but the end result would be the same."
In his "sissy" forum profile, Yates notes his interests are "gangbangs, female domination, rape fantasies," and something called "poz breeding" -- a fetish for possibly contracting HIV from unprotected sex.

Schools aren't for educating students. Schools now exist purely as pervert funhouses for autogynephiles and sex criminals to show off their gender role-play to little kids.

Michelle Obama ($75m worth) and Julia Louis Dreyfus ($250m worth) complain about how difficult life is for American women pic.twitter.com/4WV5BMKgbM
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) July 10, 2025

Chelsea Clinton took the time to think the grifter organization that keeps her paid and outfitted with a chauffeur and town car for doing so much to help the flood victims in Texas.

I doubt it.

Just endless, fathomless corruption:

pic.twitter.com/EfB2axH4BY
— DataRepublican (small r) (@DataRepublican) July 9, 2025

Leftists: �These are the hardworking immigrants that keep food on our shelves!�

Reality: this is a weed farm full of illegals. https://t.co/hqlxkEU3i5
— Michael Seifert (@realmichaelseif) July 11, 2025

NEW MEDIA SPIN JUST DROPPED

�ICE forcefully raided a California farm and arrested farmers.�

REALITY: It was a WEED farm exploiting child labor, and ICE agents had rocks thrown and a gun fired at them

You don�t hate the media enough. pic.twitter.com/QwJIXjNQNB
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 11, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 06:15 PM

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1 - Figures.
Willowed at 260.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 11, 2025 06:16 PM (5/wly)

2 - You may want to check it out, ace.
Or not.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 11, 2025 06:18 PM (5/wly)

3 "Surrounding the books is a tableau of candles, rose petals, a tarot deck, and packets of wildflower seeds, which guests are encouraged to take home and plant. Midnight will mark the spring equinox, and the pagan decor is meant to celebrate a rebirth ...."

Just perfect!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:19 PM (TwZXH)

4 "Say, what's the racial composition of Rolling Stone's editorial staff, I wonder...?"

----
Apologetically White

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 06:19 PM (36PRH)

5 I can’t believe that chicks supposedly find Newsome at all good-looking. He strikes as a slightly less gay version of Anthony Perkins.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (77rzZ)

6 I will not be willowed:

Trump is referring to Hegseth as the Secretary Of War

this is a thing that is happening

https://tinyurl.com/yvpwvtvt

Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (AOsQT)

7 I always like the "Oh Noes, the CEO is worth billions" meme.

And the aggregate salary of the tens of thousands of employees is?

What is the cost of maintenance for the buildings and equipment? Utilities?

Etc.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (tT6L1)

8 Notice there isn't a bunch of violence in those mexican riots about gringos buying up their property?

It's almost like the government there would not tolerate that kind of bull$hit.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (e5NfL)

9 If it gets wet its a feliny

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (QSrLX)

10 "This video sums up London 2025"

USA out of NATO now.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:22 PM (TwZXH)

11 3 "Surrounding the books is a tableau of candles, rose petals, a tarot deck, and packets of wildflower seeds, which guests are encouraged to take home and plant. Midnight will mark the spring equinox, and the pagan decor is meant to celebrate a rebirth ...."

Just perfect!
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird

There is an astonishing lack and mention of harmony crystals. Flag Thrown!

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:22 PM (/U5Yz)

12 And so, Yates returned as tennis coach after the school board voted 6-2 to (re)hire him.
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6 board members who voted to rehire that perverted hack need to be fired (and perhaps criminally charged for dereliction of duty and endangerment).

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:22 PM (TN0g+)

13 Pay Taxes
Learn Spanish
Respect My Culture

Fuuuuuuuuuck yooooouuu!
Chinga tu madre, pendejo!

Sucks, don't it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 06:23 PM (OPUTs)

14 Leftwing women are all ugly hags. Or dudes.

People gotta stop with the neck tattoos.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 06:23 PM (cBvpj)

15 >> 10 "This video sums up London 2025"

USA out of NATO now.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird

Can we haz UN added?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:24 PM (/U5Yz)

16 "Sheriff speaks plainly."

Grady Judd 2028!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:25 PM (TwZXH)

17 >>There's a "publishing scene" in LA -- they read books in LA?

But are they Walking In LA?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 06:26 PM (XV/Pl)

18 Lol. Gal Gadot is not that kind of bad actor.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:26 PM (Yamow)

19 I can’t believe that chicks supposedly find Newsome at all good-looking. He strikes as a slightly less gay version of Anthony Perkins.
Posted by: Bulg
______

I think he's going for the Matthew McConaughey slicked back hipster look.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at July 11, 2025 06:26 PM (p16cu)

20 >>> 12 And so, Yates returned as tennis coach after the school board voted 6-2 to (re)hire him.
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6 board members who voted to rehire that perverted hack need to be fired (and perhaps criminally charged for dereliction of duty and endangerment).
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:22 PM (TN0g+)

Include the other two. How do we know they voted against it only because they knew they could fake it, being covered by the other 6?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 06:28 PM (ULPxl)

21 Having your awe removed is a new trend in Cali with all the best plastic surgeons offering the procedure now.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 06:28 PM (cduTK)

22 >>>Trump is referring to Hegseth as the Secretary Of War
this is a thing that is happening
https://tinyurl.com/yvpwvtvt

very good. I'm all in favor of turning the clocks back before The Madness began.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 06:28 PM (KRtlO)

23 >>> "Say, what's the racial composition of Rolling Stone's editorial staff, I wonder...?"

----
Apologetically White

hah, that's good!

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 06:29 PM (KRtlO)

24 Madness: Reconstruction?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:29 PM (Yamow)

25 That twit congresswoman just defined trickle-down economics. Where did that $50 million go, idiot?

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 11, 2025 06:30 PM (eYAt4)

26 Ace, I LOVED "This clip is everything." Thank you.

I have become very jaded and unmoved in the last decade or so. I see protesters and want them to be run over. Unmoved by tear gas tears. I may have a mental issue, but really don't care as I am basically harmless. At least not picking on my grandfather and ugly like that girl in the video above. I did want to see her pole dance and injure herself. See! This is how I think now after all the Antifa crap, etc.

I wish I had somehow known to record the meeting during the university land take over in Washington years ago. They had a list of chores for the "farm." I can't find mention of it now because it is happening again! It was hilarious with subtitles. I nearly expired from laughing.

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 11, 2025 06:30 PM (6PCLE)

27 Mira Nair, Mamdani's mother and acclaimed director of Monsoon Wedding, was one of the signatories of a letter demanding that the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences disinvite Gadot from presenting at the Oscars.
===

That letter alone should be enough the get Mandani deported - fruit of a poisonous tree. Yes, havinf immediate family members who are scumbags can derail one's visa.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 06:31 PM (/lPRQ)

28 ~~The Week in Woke~~

The Century in Woke, so far.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 06:31 PM (pMi6S)

29 The people behind the sheriff were having trouble holding in their laughter. That sheriff must have some great constituents if he can speak that plainly to them.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:31 PM (tT6L1)

30 Wow. Kash Patel is now considering resigning alongside Dan Bongino if Pam Bondi isn’t fired over the Epstein disclosure disaster she caused.

She either lied to us for months or she’s lying now. There’s no other option and now it’s hurting everyone. She must resign or be fired. - Robbie Starbuck

Make of it what you will.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:32 PM (/U5Yz)

31 "[In] October 2024, I met up with a guy from Grindr and went to his motel room. Was filmed getting spun and being f*cked by raw bbc. The video was sent to a member of the board at the school I worked at. That was my 'coming out' as a meth whore and I was fired," Yates posted on May 22.
"What I've never admitted is that yes, the video was sent from someone else's email address, but I actually wrote the email and hit the send button. I exposed myself to the member of the school board who is the chapter leader for the local Moms for Liberty. She has been trying to fire me for the last 2 year and this gave her everything she needed to legitimately fire me," he added.

"Since this happened I have not been able to find employment. I apply for jobs but don't even get an interview." ...

When asked whether he regretted his decision, Yates said, "There are parts of it that I might do a little differently ... ."

Don't do meth, kids.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 06:33 PM (cBvpj)

32 Monsoon Wedding was ...a good movie. I am sad beyond belief!...ok , I am over it now

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:33 PM (g47mK)

33 I'd be happy to work at an indoor weed farm, but outdoor farming is one of the jobs this American won't do.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:33 PM (TwZXH)

34 The music was excellent.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:33 PM (g47mK)

35 "Nearly everyone" is white in a majority white country. What a crisis. I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

No, really. I am sorry that you live here.

Please leave.

Posted by: Egg Shen, Bus Philosophiser at July 11, 2025 06:33 PM (uR4Tu)

36 @19

>>I think he's going for the Matthew McConaughey slicked back hipster look.

He's got that olive oil skin and Guinea charms.

Apparently the ladies dig that sort of thing.

People must like him, they vote for him in landslides.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 06:33 PM (XV/Pl)

37 > The letter, signed by 21 Academy members and more than 75 other filmmakers

I've never heard of any of these people. Becoming an "Academy member" merely requires that you get two current members to sponsor you. It's about as exclusive as a thunderstorm.

[Nina Jankowicz] called upon the 27 EU countries to fight against the U.S., which she described as a global threat.

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:34 PM (qpyNK)

38 I think it went from SecWar to SecDef after dubya dubya 2

1949, ACKshually

Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 06:34 PM (AOsQT)

39 I can’t believe that chicks supposedly find Newsome at all good-looking. He strikes as a slightly less gay version of Anthony Perkins.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (77rzZ)
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Who was the chick who 'cured' him?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:34 PM (ZOv7s)

40 Trump is referring to Hegseth as the Secretary Of War

Chancellor of the Ex-Peckers.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 06:34 PM (pMi6S)

41 quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that ???

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:35 PM (g47mK)

42 quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that ???
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:35 PM (g47mK)
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Probably need to ask the fiercely heterosexual Corey Book that question.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (tT6L1)

43 > Trump is referring to Hegseth as the Secretary Of War

Awesome. I don't recall that we've conclusively won a war since the title was changed to the pussy-ass "Secretary of Defense".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (qpyNK)

44 Make of it what you will.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:32 PM (/U5Yz)
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I make nothing of your fear porn/pot-stirring.

Good day to you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (ZOv7s)

45 That woke bastard fire chief in Austin needs to be fired for that reason alone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (Hlfhp)

46 "In the end, the calls for a globalist intervention are a final desperate call of America's self-isolated left."

But those globalists have TRILLIONS to deploy for their war on humanity.

So much content, might take me the weekend to absorb it.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (vbXSk)

47 From GP:

A day after protesters threw rocks and a gunman fired on ICE agents during a raid on a marijuana farm in Ventura County, California where exploited illegal alien children were found to be working, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass (D-Cuba) announced the city will be arranging cash and food assistance to illegal aliens who are hiding from the federal government.

Bass expressed concern that illegal aliens are not able to work to pay the rent and feed their families because of the ongoing immigration enforcement actions in Southern California by the Trump administration.

Bass also said she was worried about two-income illegal immigration families who have lost one income because a member has been detained for deportation.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (TN0g+)

48 > I'd be happy to work at an indoor weed farm, but outdoor farming is one of the jobs this American won't do.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird
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Modern farm equipment, like harvesters, combines, etc. will put a luxury SUV to shame with the amenities installed. You hardly "drive the thing" as it's a computer assisted, GPS, A/C, tablet controlled, rolling Laz-E-Boy monster.

Now, growing weed on the other hand...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (Q4IgG)

49 Awesome. I don't recall that we've conclusively won a war since the title was changed to the pussy-ass "Secretary of Defense".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (qpyNK)
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Gulf War I was pretty much a curb-stomping.

We had various interventions go well. Reagan pissed all over Gaddafy and the Line of Death.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (ZOv7s)

50 >quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that ???
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just don't
keep scrolling

Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (AOsQT)

51 How awful is the gal who wanted to talk about a movie her grampa was watching? Even he got sick of her nonsense.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:38 PM (tT6L1)

52 41 quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that ???
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:35 PM (g47mK)

I believe it's when you watch the beeb without eyeglasses or contacts.

Or take big black cock in the ass without a condom.

One of those two for sure.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 06:38 PM (cBvpj)

53 I once was a commenter on a "sissy forum". It was called "Little Green Footballs".

Posted by: Regerts, I've Had a Few at July 11, 2025 06:38 PM (G5+As)

54 >> The fire chief in Austin, Texas has been accused of not deploying firefighters to help those who were being impacted by flooding that took place in Kerrville County on July 4.

Truth. I heard it first hand from guys who wanted to go.

BTW Travis County went 68.8% for Kamala. Kerr County went 76.8% for Trump.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2025 06:38 PM (8bQ1C)

55 "quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that"

The reason why European women welcome immigrants.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:38 PM (TwZXH)

56 Now, growing weed on the other hand...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (Q4IgG)
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Legal in Michigan, grown mostly indoors because the season is so short and crop theft could be an issue. There are some pretty big - and very secure - grow facilities around here.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (ZOv7s)

57 I think DeSantis has been turned. Blondi was his girl. Trump will keep Blondi and the Senate will chose Patel and Bongino's replacements.

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (oERdd)

58 41 quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that ???
Posted by: runner
..............................
It's the sweet, throbbing, pulse of Liberty.

Posted by: David French at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (uGaBv)

59 39 Please tell me it wasn’t Victoria Principal, who tried to “cure” Perkins.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (77rzZ)

60 5 I can’t believe that chicks supposedly find Newsome at all good-looking. He strikes as a slightly less gay version of Anthony Perkins.
Posted by: Bulg

I did a photo essay about this phenomenon back in the day:

http://www.zombietime.com/presidential_campaign_sunday/

(pic)

"Next up was San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who seems to follow me around wherever I go, popping up unexpectedly at all sorts of political events. "

(pic)

"After his speech, Newsom waded into the crowd, and was immediately beseiged by reporters and fans. The man loves attention. He also somehow manages to look vaguely Satanic whenever I photograph him. Perhaps it's the hair. "

(pic)

"He seems to have a mesmeric affect on attractive young women, who invariably go all giddy and flush with excitement at the very sight of him (both of these women were looking at Newsom when I took these pictures). "

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (pMi6S)

61 Bass also said she was worried about two-income illegal immigration families who have lost one income because a member has been detained for deportation.
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (TN0g+)
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Nice of Bass to worry about non citizens while Pacific Palisades, owned by actual citizens, is still a pile of ash.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (tT6L1)

62 One of our many good Florida Sheriffs.

Mine got national news warning antifa that here Joe Average can run your ass over if your try to block them into their car, nd his deputies will shoot your ass dead if you chuck shit at them.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (/lPRQ)

63 >>> 47 From GP:

A day after protesters threw rocks and a gunman fired on ICE agents during a raid on a marijuana farm in Ventura County, California where exploited illegal alien children were found to be working, Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass (D-Cuba) announced the city will be arranging cash and food assistance to illegal aliens who are hiding from the federal government.

Bass expressed concern that illegal aliens are not able to work to pay the rent and feed their families because of the ongoing immigration enforcement actions in Southern California by the Trump administration.

Bass also said she was worried about two-income illegal immigration families who have lost one income because a member has been detained for deportation.
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (TN0g+)

Arrest the entire fcking city council *and* the twat mayor.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 06:40 PM (ULPxl)

64 50 >quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that ???
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just don't
keep scrolling
Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM (AOsQT)

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"When looking up barbecue pics goes wrong..."

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 06:40 PM (36PRH)

65 "This clip is everything."

How much did akbar pay you to post that?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 06:40 PM (89Sog)

66 {i]>> The fire chief in Austin, Texas has been accused of not deploying firefighters to help those who were being impacted by flooding that took place in Kerrville County on July 4.

Maths is hard.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:40 PM (/U5Yz)

67 London has fallen.

Watching jihadis wave their flags under the Globohomo flags the government hung is an interesting contrast, and TBH, if its I had to choose I think the jihadis would be better overlords then Big Gay has proven to be

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 06:40 PM (t0Rmr)

68 Somebody said the other day, “I’m not sure if Newsom would suck d**k. But I sure bet he would let it roll around in his mouth a bit.

I lol’d.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2025 06:40 PM (8bQ1C)

69 I once was a commenter on a "sissy forum". It was called "Little Green Footballs".
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I lol'd.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:41 PM (TN0g+)

70 The contractor is coming tomorrow to give an estimate for painting the main house and the barndomnium.

It's exterior only, so I'm thinking about 10k, but we shall see.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 06:41 PM (XV/Pl)

71 I once was a commenter on a "sissy forum". It was called "Little Green Footballs".
Posted by: Regerts, I've Had a Few at July 11, 2025 06:38 PM (G5+As)
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The curse of the internet is that it has provided a place for sick deviants to find others of their kind and start to think that their perversions are in any way acceptable.

When the Theocracy is established, these will be given shovels to build the Dignity Canal.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:42 PM (ZOv7s)

72 56 We have a great big indoor weed farm about 20 miles west of here. They grow it inside so they can control the photoperiod precisely, and the quality isn't impaired by ambient drifting ditchweed pollen. Big HVAC units all along the side of the thing, because of the heat from the lamps.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:42 PM (TwZXH)

73 This stuff is not a "fetish."
Exposing yourself to a woman is a sex crime. Forcing someone else, especially children, to participate in your sexual gratification is a sex crime.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 11, 2025 06:43 PM (j6Ika)

74
"He seems to have a mesmeric affect on attractive young women, who invariably go all giddy and flush with excitement at the very sight of him (both of these women were looking at Newsom when I took these pictures). "
Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (pMi6S)

Is this a safe link zombie or ??? I don't want to burn my retinas, again.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 06:44 PM (jPh2t)

75 8 Notice there isn't a bunch of violence in those mexican riots about gringos buying up their property?

It's almost like the government there would not tolerate that kind of bull$hit.
Posted by: Mister Scott

Actually, there is.

Everyone is misinterpreting and misunderstanding these Mexican anti-gringo protests.

They are the work of the Mexican cells of Antifa. A deeper dive int the coverage of the protests show a huge amount of rioting, window-smashing, looting. etc. But it isn't getting much coverage in the US -- because neither the media nor the audience can wrap their heads around the theme of the protest. (Which is, basically, "We hate America and capitalism, but we will use the LEFT's own memes against them as a way of making our point, confusingly.")

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 06:44 PM (pMi6S)

76 Sanjay Gupta should be pumping my gas and selling cigarettes at the local Tom Thumb, not pretending to give medical advice on CNN.

Also, ICE should deport him back to Meechiiigaan.

Posted by: Fuck him... at July 11, 2025 06:44 PM (R/m4+)

77 Have you seen a picture of Ellie Mystal? You could not have invented a more ridiculous looking fool to be the face of anti-American sentiment. If you making a total spoof of Bond movies, he would be one of the arc-villains minions, drooling all over himself while hurling idiotic insults.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 06:44 PM (Hlfhp)

78 Please tell me it wasn’t Victoria Principal, who tried to “cure” Perkins.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:39 PM (77rzZ)
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No, not her. Damn, who was it? She basically seduced him and he realized that girls are pretty fun after all.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:44 PM (ZOv7s)

79 Awesome. I don't recall that we've conclusively won a war since the title was changed to the pussy-ass "Secretary of Defense".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (qpyNK)
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Gulf War I was pretty much a curb-stomping.

We had various interventions go well. Reagan pissed all over Gaddafy and the Line of Death.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:37 PM

We busted up iran during the Tanker War. Pretty much curb stomped them and sank everything we could find.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 06:44 PM (e5NfL)

80 "In recent years, Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon, who has a net worth of over $200 billion, paid zero dollars in federal income taxes."

Because in the lefts view, you only contribute to an economy by paying taxes. The economic activity and the many people employed by your business both directly and indirectly don't count for anything. They would all be better off on welfare.

Posted by: Crotalus Atrox at July 11, 2025 06:45 PM (q4Vt5)

81 "London has fallen.

Watching jihadis wave their flags under the Globohomo flags ..."

If you were a British citizen posting that comment, police would soon be at your door.

Stick a fork in western Europe. USA out of NATO.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:45 PM (TwZXH)

82 quickly, "raw bbc.." what is that ???
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:35 PM (g47mK)
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The hipsters saw it is flying economy class without any electronic devices to keep yourself entertained.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 06:45 PM (/lPRQ)

83 This month, many on the American left are issuing their own "broken arrow" signals, including calling on globalist allies to hit the U.S. with sanctions and other measures.

All foreigners go home.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 06:45 PM (a+4eV)

84 Blondi set up the fracas as a way to push Patel and Bongino out.
Best thing those two could do is ride it out. Eventually, Blondi will blow herself up

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 06:45 PM (oERdd)

85 Is this a safe link zombie or ??? I don't want to burn my retinas, again.
Posted by: CaliGirl

Totally safe.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 06:46 PM (pMi6S)

86 Report: 1 in 3 Pregnancies in UK Now End in Abortion

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:46 PM (TN0g+)

87 > 39 I can’t believe that chicks supposedly find Newsome at all good-looking. He strikes as a slightly less gay version of Anthony Perkins.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (77rzZ)

Newsome and Romney both look like they share a tube of some type of hair gel that doubles as anal lube.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:46 PM (qpyNK)

88 "Broken Arrow" IS NOT calling in fire on your own position. PERIOD. It is for a missing nuke.

Calling fire on your own position is a "Danger Close" call.

It pisses me off when people talk like they know something when they're not even in the same ballpark.

Posted by: GWB at July 11, 2025 06:46 PM (he79i)

89 BWC, BBC, it all tastes the same

Posted by: Corey! at July 11, 2025 06:47 PM (gKWVE)

90 So, Gavin Newsom is a poor man's Randall Flagg?

Posted by: Puddleglum, chillin in Amish Country at July 11, 2025 06:47 PM (uGaBv)

91 88 Concur.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:48 PM (TwZXH)

92 No, not her. Damn, who was it? She basically seduced him and he realized that girls are pretty fun after all.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Frances Bavier?

Posted by: Do Bee Do Bee Do at July 11, 2025 06:48 PM (G5+As)

93 84 Blondi set up the fracas as a way to push Patel and Bongino out.
Best thing those two could do is ride it out. Eventually, Blondi will blow herself up
Posted by: Accomack [/i

She's doing them dirty.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:48 PM (/U5Yz)

94 Newsome and Romney both look like they share a tube of some type of hair gel that doubles as anal lube.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:46 PM (qpyNK)
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Romney is much, much gayer than Newsome. Absolutely a bottom.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:48 PM (ZOv7s)

95 If Newsome's response to the raid in California teaches us one thing it should be . . .

People who take donations from Glass House Farms should not throw down on X about it.

Posted by: Sam at July 11, 2025 06:49 PM (7jMef)

96 The Left- we need to raise the minimum wage, give more benefits like paid family leave and healthcare to workers, add more worker safety and protection, and end the need for children to work

Also the Left- (insert raging/crying antifa colored hair lady meme here) WE NEED TO HAVE BROWN CHILDREN IMMIGRANTS WORK UNDER THE TABLE WITH NO PROTECTIONS IN SHITTY SLAVE JOBS TO MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER AND CHEAPER!!!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 06:49 PM (ycI94)

97 The KKK really, really hated black people and Jewish people.

It literally took Republicans 100 years to teach the Democrats NOT to hate black people.

The Democrats (and the even farther Leftists) still really, really hate Jewish people. How long is it going to take us to teach them on that one, forever?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 11, 2025 06:50 PM (HlyYF)

98 This thread is fraught.

Also, I think the margins got lucky.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:50 PM (zZu0s)

99 77
'Have you seen a picture of Ellie Mystal? You could not have invented a more ridiculous looking fool'

He's the one that looks like a fat Don King?
Yeah, agreeing with him should erase a person's credibility.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 11, 2025 06:50 PM (3wi/L)

100 Frances Bavier?
Posted by: Do Bee Do Bee Do at July 11, 2025 06:48 PM (G5+As)
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I dunno, it was one of those throwaway lines, probably from Mark Steyn, and it was like in the late 70s. Ego trip on her part, I think. Even gay guys couldn't resist her.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)

101 Ego trip on her part, I think. Even gay guys couldn't resist her.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:50 PM (ZOv7s)

I really hope it wasn't Doris day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:51 PM (zZu0s)

102 "Frances Bavier?"

In "The Day the Earth Stood Still," she stole every scene she was in.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:52 PM (TwZXH)

103 So Justine Bateman needs to have a talk with her brother for threatening her?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:52 PM (VofaG)

104 Frances Bavier?
Posted by: Do Bee Do Bee Do at July 11, 2025 06:48 PM (G5+As)
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I dunno, it was one of those throwaway lines, probably from Mark Steyn, and it was like in the late 70s. Ego trip on her part, I think. Even gay guys couldn't resist her.

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It must have been Ginger from Gilligan's Island...

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:52 PM (TN0g+)

105 Also the Left- (insert raging/crying antifa colored hair lady meme here) WE NEED TO HAVE BROWN CHILDREN IMMIGRANTS WORK UNDER THE TABLE WITH NO PROTECTIONS IN SHITTY SLAVE JOBS TO MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER AND CHEAPER!!!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 06:49 PM (ycI94)
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Yeah, the fact that they want slave labor to grow their MJ is absolutely hilarious.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:52 PM (ZOv7s)

106 Looking it up online Berry Berenson? Who?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:53 PM (zZu0s)

107 The KKK really, really hated black people and Jewish peopl

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And Catholics

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 06:53 PM (/lPRQ)

108 It must have been Ginger from Gilligan's Island...
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:52 PM (TN0g+)
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Yeah, maybe.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:53 PM (ZOv7s)

109 > No, not her. Damn, who was it? She basically seduced him and he realized that girls are pretty fun after all.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:44 PM (ZOv7s)

Berry Berenson, younger sister of Barry Lyndon hottie Marisa.

They stayed married until his death. Even had a couple of kids.

Or so says Wikipedia.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:53 PM (qpyNK)

110 84
'Blondi set up the fracas as a way to push Patel and Bongino out.'

If she did, Trump's the one who should be pissed.
He should have Tulsi bug her phone to see what she's really up to.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 11, 2025 06:53 PM (3wi/L)

111 Mine got national news warning antifa that here Joe Average can run your ass over if your try to block them into their car, nd his deputies will shoot your ass dead if you chuck shit at them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Sad that there had to be a warning. That should just be understood from about age 10 onwards.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 06:54 PM (OPUTs)

112 > They stayed married until his death. Even had a couple of kids.

She was killed in the 9/11 attacks.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 06:54 PM (qpyNK)

113 Oh zombie, I thought my little corner of California had the most interesting, colorful characters but I see you have me beat by a country mile.

Newsome is more than vaguely satanic, he looks like the joker/satan's love child.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 06:54 PM (jPh2t)

114 That clip of London is horrifying. Absolutely horrifying. They are gone.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 11, 2025 06:54 PM (qBdHI)

115 I really hope it wasn't Doris day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:51 PM (zZu0s)
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LOL.

"Pillow Talk?" More like "Pillow Biter!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:55 PM (ZOv7s)

116 As so often happens, by the end of the week I'm in my "Eff everyone and everything" mode.

Question: has anyone pointed out that by counting illegals toward representation, though they cannot (legally) vote, we are recreating the old Rotten Boroughs that were such an issue in England about 200 years ago? The ones where very small numbers of actual voters decided who would go to Parliament. I haven't seen that mentioned.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 11, 2025 06:55 PM (od0dV)

117 Notice there isn't a bunch of violence in those mexican riots about gringos buying up their property?

It's almost like the government there would not tolerate that kind of bull$hit.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (e5NfL)

You mean long term leasing the property? Because Gringos can’t buy property in Mexico.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:55 PM (VofaG)

118 Reading the Week in Woke, week after week, I have come to this conclusion. It's no wonder the Progressives do not want to open insane asylums. Because most of them would quickly be judged clinically insane and locked up in one.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 06:55 PM (aBgBM)

119 >>Yeah, the fact that they want slave labor to grow their MJ is absolutely hilarious.

Weed, cotton, the more things change the more they stay the same.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 06:55 PM (viF8m)

120
Obama library is nowhere in sight and it took 5 years to build the Hoover Dam.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 06:56 PM (UmB+t)

121 That clip of London is horrifying. Absolutely horrifying. They are gone.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 11, 2025 06:54 PM (qBdHI)
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London is the least important part of England. The backbone of the nation is the smaller town, which is why those are now being targeted.

London got bombed flat and the country was fine. But if you shatter the countryside, there are no rally points left.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:56 PM (ZOv7s)

122 Zohran Mamdani's mother, a "famous director," lobbied hard to get Gal Gadot disinvited from the Oscars because she's a Jew.

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The Anti-Semite doesn't fall far from the ghee ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 06:56 PM (KLJj4)

123 The KKK really, really hated black people and Jewish people.

It literally took Republicans 100 years to teach the Democrats NOT to hate black people.

The Democrats (and the even farther Leftists) still really, really hate Jewish people. How long is it going to take us to teach them on that one, forever?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Dems really, really hate blacks. Especially when they go off the rez.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 06:57 PM (OPUTs)

124 Mine got national news warning antifa that here Joe Average can run your ass over if your try to block them into their car, nd his deputies will shoot your ass dead if you chuck shit at them.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher

Sad that there had to be a warning. That should just be understood from about age 10 onwards.
Posted by: rickb223

It was a reminder - most states you have to yield to pedestrians. In Florida you only have to stop to bag and tag them.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 06:57 PM (/lPRQ)

125 Obama library is nowhere in sight and it took 5 years to build the Hoover Dam.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 06:56 PM (UmB+t)
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The symbolism of the featherweight DEI president being unable to build his own monument is *chef's kiss*

Michelle clearly doesn't give a damn, either.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:57 PM (ZOv7s)

126 "Obama library is nowhere in sight"

Oh, believe me, it's in sight, and it is frightful. A big turd standing on end, defiling a beautiful public park.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:58 PM (TwZXH)

127 One thing that always gets me about the BS Obama-Dreyfus complaint is the implication that most of the BS women have to live up to is imposed by men. NFW. I remember once my sister was going on like that, and I stopped her by saying "Yeah. You got that from Dad. Right."

She looked puzzled, then started to laugh. Women are mostly ruled by things thought up by other women. How could it have been otherwise, given a 100% unbreakable monopoly on what men want most?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 11, 2025 06:58 PM (od0dV)

128 ha! side bar

"Alan Deschowitz says there is an "Epstein Client List," but that it contains many people falsely accused by Virginia Guiffre, and also a lot of negative information about Guiffre herself."

I told you.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:58 PM (g47mK)

129 By the way, I think we can put aside Big Mike. Michelle's history is documented, she has a brother, and she hates Barry. She never had sex with him, gave birth two some turkey baster babies and none of them much care for each other.

Macron's wife, on the other hand...hmmm.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:59 PM (ZOv7s)

130 Newsom has a very sordid past.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:59 PM (g47mK)

131 ha! side bar

"Alan Deschowitz says there is an "Epstein Client List," but that it contains many people falsely accused by Virginia Guiffre, and also a lot of negative information about Guiffre herself."

I told you.
Posted by: runner
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He can say that because she is dead.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (/lPRQ)

132 "it took 5 years to build the Hoover Dam."

Not to excuse Obama, but name any major successful US infrastructure project of the past couple decades. As in on time and on budget. We just can't do it anymore.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (TwZXH)

133 You know, Eyeore, you raise a very interesting point

Posted by: Sandi Kortez at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (oERdd)

134 By the way, I think we can put aside Big Mike. Michelle's history is documented, she has a brother, and she hates Barry. She never had sex with him, gave birth two some turkey baster babies and none of them much care for each other.

Macron's wife, on the other hand...hmmm.
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She probably hates Barry too.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (TN0g+)

135 If Hillary had won in 2016, the leftists would now control the Supreme Court 6-3. Imagine what our country would look like.

Posted by: Nigh the End at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (qUkBO)

136 He can say that because she is dead.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (/lPRQ)

He can say that because there is court evidence and her own admissions that she lied

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 07:01 PM (g47mK)

137 119 >>Yeah, the fact that they want slave labor to grow their MJ is absolutely hilarious.

Weed, cotton, the more things change the more they stay the same.
Posted by: JackStraw

Hemp, my good sir, hemp! Another fine material for making clothes. Yes sir, my boys wear their homespun pants with PRIDE, especially in June, when they dye them those delightfully gay rainbow colors!

Posted by: Southern Democrat Plantation Owner at July 11, 2025 07:01 PM (ycI94)

138
Calling fire on your own position is a "Danger Close" call.

Posted by: GWB

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Is it pronounced Clohss, like the noun, or clohz, like the verb?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:02 PM (UmB+t)

139 Not to excuse Obama, but name any major successful US infrastructure project of the past couple decades. As in on time and on budget. We just can't do it anymore.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (TwZXH)
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Alligator Alcatraz and the Big Beautiful Wall say otherwise.

Same with the flag poles at the White House. And look at all the manufacturing plants coming home!

No, the Obamas are uniquely incompetent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:02 PM (ZOv7s)

140 A lot of what we're seeing lately reminds me of the politics of my youth. One difference is that they've already played their Watergate Card, and it didn't work. Well, only to the point of getting Braindead Joe for 4 years.

Another difference is that, back in the day, lefty chicks were better looking than their granddaughters are.

Posted by: Eeyore at July 11, 2025 07:02 PM (od0dV)

141 You mean long term leasing the property? Because Gringos can’t buy property in Mexico.
Posted by: polynikes

It's actually changed. They can now.

US citizens can legally own property in Mexico through bank trusts in coastal/border zones and direct ownership elsewhere, with no residency requirements.
The total investment typically requires 5-8% in closing costs plus annual fees of $500-1,200, with strong rental yields of 6-12% in tourist areas.

https://tinyurl.com/55jzheze

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:02 PM (OPUTs)

142 Lovely night for McNuggets

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 07:02 PM (oERdd)

143 took 5 years to build the Hoover Dam."

Not to excuse Obama, but name any major successful US infrastructure project of the past couple decades. As in on time and on budget. We just can't do it anymore.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (TwZXH)

Over 100 workers died in those five years.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (VofaG)

144
"Alan Deschowitz says there is an "Epstein Client List," but that it contains many people falsely accused by Virginia Guiffre, and also a lot of negative information about Guiffre herself."

I told you.
Posted by: runner

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He doesn't say the word "client." He says there are "names," and is more concerned about false accusations than johns, seemingly. It's a weird clip.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (UmB+t)

145 Blonde Morticia, no need for a library because Barky keeps resealing all his records.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (HFcKg)

146 He can say that because there is court evidence and her own admissions that she lied
Posted by: runner

And those people are specifically the one's being referred to, and only those ones?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (/lPRQ)

147 Perfect.

https://tinyurl.com/mswduwk5

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (viF8m)

148 He doesn't say the word "client." He says there are "names," and is more concerned about false accusations than johns, seemingly. It's a weird clip.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Typical lawyer. ABPW.
Always Be Parsing Words.

"Depends on what is is".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:05 PM (OPUTs)

149 Surrounding the books is a tableau of candles, rose petals, a tarot deck, and packets of wildflower seeds, which guests are encouraged to take home and plant. Midnight will mark the spring equinox, and the pagan decor is meant to celebrate a rebirth …

———

Even the hippie dippies are getting a little perturbed at the whole LGBT stuff.

I regularly watch videos of a young woman into esoteric teaching and she bemoans the fact that so many women don’t operate in their “feminine energy” nowadays. She has a point.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 11, 2025 07:05 PM (YxG/6)

150 NEW MEDIA SPIN JUST DROPPED

Are you saying they buried the weed ?

Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:05 PM (1l+t9)

151 Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:02 PM (OPUTs)

Thanks for updating me and my inaccurate info.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:05 PM (VofaG)

152 Another difference is that, back in the day, lefty chicks were better looking than their granddaughters are.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 11, 2025 07:02 PM (od0dV)
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NGL, lefty chicks in my youth were often attractive and also very available.

To be sure, not wife material, but a welcome port in a storm. Perfect for the whiteboard Fun Zone.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:05 PM (ZOv7s)

153
Not to excuse Obama, but name any major successful US infrastructure project of the past couple decades. As in on time and on budget. We just can't do it anymore.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (TwZXH)

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Yeah, that was partly my point. I remember something about "shovel-readeh jobs."

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Over 100 workers died in those five years.
Posted by: polynikes

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Yikes. Second look at that OSHA bs?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:05 PM (UmB+t)

154
The symbolism of the featherweight DEI president being unable to build his own monument is *chef's kiss*

Michelle clearly doesn't give a damn, either.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:57 PM

Michelle's moaning and whining about how hard she had it while living in the White House is quite frankly, just ugly. Like, read the room lady.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (jPh2t)

155 Wasn't Dershowitz accused of being on the client list?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (HFcKg)

156 Typical lawyer. ABPW.
Always Be Parsing Words.

"Depends on what is is".
Posted by: rickb223

"Is"?
Present tense. Not explicitly in past or future, but could be.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (/lPRQ)

157 Over 100 workers died in those five years.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (VofaG)

Yeah but only 2 or 3 actually fell into the cement and got buried in the dam.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (Hlfhp)

158 Blonde Morticia, no need for a library because Barky keeps resealing all his records.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (HFcKg)
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How much space do his speeches and March Madness brackets take up?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (ZOv7s)

159
It's hard to believe, but the woke gay dilettante Barack Obama can't build a library. It's one of the many things he's bad at, including keeping his awful wife in line.

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Also: the concrete on Obama's monstrosity is cracking because the DEI contractors who laid it don't know what they're doing.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 11, 2025 07:07 PM (ES1Rb)

160 99 77
'Have you seen a picture of Ellie Mystal? You could not have invented a more ridiculous looking fool'

He's the one that looks like a fat Don King?
Yeah, agreeing with him should erase a person's credibility.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 11, 2025 06:50 PM (3wi/L)

It's a truth in advertising thing. He's a mendacious fool, so his court jester costume gives fair warning.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 07:07 PM (cBvpj)

161 NGL, lefty chicks in my youth were often attractive and also very available.

To be sure, not wife material, but a welcome port in a storm. Perfect for the whiteboard Fun Zone.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

And people wonder why succeeding generations turned into sluts...

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 07:07 PM (a+4eV)

162 Who wants to make a couple dollars? I have a 1/2 cord of wood that needs to be moved about 50 feet and stacked.

I will throw in an oyster if you do a good job.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:07 PM (viF8m)

163 Wasn't Dershowitz accused of being on the client list?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (HFcKg)

His denials are actually sadly hilarious . Yeah I was a client but not a client client.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:08 PM (VofaG)

164
Blonde Morticia, no need for a library because Barky keeps resealing all his records.
Posted by: Ben Had

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What a disappointment to all those scholars in Chicago's public schools.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:08 PM (UmB+t)

165 147 Perfect.

https://tinyurl.com/mswduwk5
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:03 PM (v

Adorably hilarious.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 07:08 PM (jPh2t)

166 Not every president needs a library. Barkles should have at stuck with what he knows and built a bathhouse.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 07:09 PM (cBvpj)

167 Who wants to make a couple dollars? I have a 1/2 cord of wood that needs to be moved about 50 feet and stacked.
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I remember doing jobs like that as a kid.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:09 PM (TN0g+)

168 162 Who wants to make a couple dollars?

Gets you nothing in town.

Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:09 PM (1l+t9)

169 I hadn't heard about that flake "trans" coach at Gettysburg....and I'm a little surprised that the players didn't just not show up. Tennis is a little different from most high school sports in that you can secure a scholarship to college by showing your regional or national ranking. Scholastic tennis really isn't that important. USTA ranking would/should be used for tennis scholarships. It's more accurate and reflects playing against more accomplished competition in more ideal weather conditions.

The team should have just walked out on the fruitcake.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 07:09 PM (dIske)

170 Thanks for updating me and my inaccurate info.
Posted by: polynikes

I had go look it up because I thought the same.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:11 PM (OPUTs)

171 >>>"Nearly everyone" is white in a majority white country.

Not for much longer, no need to worry.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 07:11 PM (uCjyK)

172 >>I remember doing jobs like that as a kid.

That's the spirit. I'm offering you a unique opportunity to relive your youth.

Did I mention there was an oyster?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:11 PM (viF8m)

173 Not to excuse Obama, but name any major successful US infrastructure project of the past couple decades. As in on time and on budget. We just can't do it anymore.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:00 PM (TwZXH)

Lot of bridges have been built that you haven’t heard of. One you may is the bridge they built after 9/11 for alternative to traveling over the Hoover dam.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:11 PM (VofaG)

174 I assume Wilson's library had a Necronomicon in it

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 07:11 PM (gKWVE)

175 I do hope that in 2029, looking back on the accomplishments of this administration, that we won't be citing installation of two flagpoles as an example of a major successful infrastructure project.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM (TwZXH)

176 I will throw in an oyster if you do a good job.
Posted by: JackStraw

I'll loan you my wheelbarrow.

Posted by: MkY at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM (cPGH3)

177 118 Reading the Week in Woke, week after week, I have come to this conclusion. It's no wonder the Progressives do not want to open insane asylums. Because most of them would quickly be judged clinically insane and locked up in one.
Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 06:55 PM

I can't figure out if they were always this crazy or it's that they willingly publicly post their breakdowns.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM (jPh2t)

178 Not every president needs a library.
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Biden should just get a box to store his comic books in.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM (TN0g+)

179 JackStraw, throw in 11 more oysters and a pitcher of martinis and I'll do it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM (HFcKg)

180 "Over 100 workers died in those five years.
Posted by: polynikes"

Who's to say they would not have died anyway?

Posted by: A Educater at July 11, 2025 07:13 PM (vFG9F)

181 Just passed a cherry 57 Chevy Bel Aire two tone aqua body w white top.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (OPUTs)

182 155 Wasn't Dershowitz accused of being on the client list?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (HFcKg)

He was, he was sued, but then he sued the accuser (Virginia Roberts) for defamation and she settled, making a statement of basically "I may have been mistaken"

Now... did money change hands? Did she run out of money for lawyers? Was she truly possibly mistaken? I don't know.

But it's not the exoneration he claims it is.

Unfortunately, being accused of raping minors is hard to put behind you. So I don't know, he could be innocent. Or guilty. We'll never know.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (uCjyK)

183 "We are the bad guys on the world stage. We are a menace to not only free people everywhere, but we are a menace to peaceful people everywhere at this point, and I'm not even going to say that we've only been a menace for the past three or four months."

Who in the fuckity fuck are we menacing on the world stage?

We bombed Iran - destroyed their ability to build a nuke. That's over.

We are giving Ukraine plenty of weapons.

neither Putin or Iran are full of nice people.

But outside of that, who the fuck are we menacing?

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (gDhA9)

184 When it comes to getting sealed, penguins should be #1.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (0sNs1)

185 >>JackStraw, throw in 11 more oysters and a pitcher of martinis and I'll do it.

You'd probably do a better job than me and I can't have that.

You can come hang out in the Fall when I burn it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (viF8m)

186 This clip is everything is indeed, everything.

I almost choked on some dinner watching it lmao

Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:15 PM (1l+t9)

187 Enough with the "Presidential" lieberrys. Once they are done in office, throw their shit in the dumpster.

Just another government employee.

Posted by: Save Time And Money at July 11, 2025 07:16 PM (R/m4+)

188 181 Just passed a cherry 57 Chevy Bel Aire two tone aqua body w white top.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (OPUTs)

Posting while driving ?

Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:16 PM (1l+t9)

189 I can't figure out if they were always this crazy or it's that they willingly publicly post their breakdowns.
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The left is a different "left" than the one that used to hold office. The left of the 70s and 80s was still stupid, but they'd stand (mostly) for the national anthem, and the border invasion was something done mostly by paperwork and bills rather than full blown conspiracy to destroy the nation. The left of the 70s and 80s were also adamant about free speech rather than seeking to become the party of the next inquisition.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:16 PM (TN0g+)

190 That's the spirit. I'm offering you a unique opportunity to relive your youth.

Did I mention there was an oyster?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:11 PM (viF8m)

I'll do it for 2 oysters, a 12 pack of Gansett, and a guaranteed spot on your boat for the aoshq Yacht Club Boat Tour. Final offer.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 07:16 PM (uCjyK)

191 Dershowitz admits to getting massages from the young ‘massage therapists’ but that’s all they were. Just legit massages. Swearsies.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:16 PM (VofaG)

192 And people wonder why succeeding generations turned into sluts...
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 07:07 PM (a+4eV)
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It was a function of the times, I think. I mean, I settled down with an Appalachian girl, we converted to Catholicism and are raising our kids and grandkids in the faith.

Gen X Tradcath timeline.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:17 PM (ZOv7s)

193 178 Not every president needs a library.
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Biden should just get a box to store his comic books in.
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM

Biden's should be a crack den/house of ill repute or a Trans am on blocks.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 07:17 PM (jPh2t)

194 "Over 100 workers died in those five years.
Posted by: polynikes"

Who's to say they would not have died anyway?
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Sounds like an exchange out of Star Trek: The Voyage Home

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:17 PM (TN0g+)

195 179 JackStraw, throw in 11 more oysters and a pitcher of martinis and I'll do it.
Posted by: Ben Had

Best I can do is a large Bloody Mary made with Clamato.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at July 11, 2025 07:18 PM (ycI94)

196 Not to excuse Obama, but name any major successful US infrastructure project of the past couple decades. As in on time and on budget. We just can't do it anymore.

Josh Shapiro got I-95 reopened ahead of schedule, and DeSantis has done miracles like that multiple times. We *can* do it, the government just chose not to in the past. That's the real lesson of Trump 2.0: you can, in fact, just do things. It really is that easy. It's just nobody has tried for the last 60 years.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 07:18 PM (NqGS/)

197 Posting while driving ?
Posted by: jsg

As long as the sun is up, yes. You can see a long way on these country roads, with not a lot of traffic.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:18 PM (OPUTs)

198 31 "[In] October 2024, I met up with a guy from Grindr and went to his motel room. Was filmed getting spun and being f*cked by raw bbc. The video was sent to a member of the board at the school I worked at. That was my 'coming out' as a meth whore and I was fired," Yates posted on May 22.
"What I've never admitted is that yes, the video was sent from someone else's email address, but I actually wrote the email and hit the send button. I exposed myself to the member of the school board who is the chapter leader for the local Moms for Liberty. She has been trying to fire me for the last 2 year and this gave her everything she needed to legitimately fire me," he added.

"Since this happened I have not been able to find employment. I apply for jobs but don't even get an interview." ...

When asked whether he regretted his decision, Yates said, "There are parts of it that I might do a little differently ... ."

Don't do meth, kids.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 06:33 PM (cBvpj)

Oh NOW you tell me!

Posted by: Andrew Gillum at July 11, 2025 07:18 PM (TbWk/)

199 The left of the 70s and 80s were also adamant about free speech rather than seeking to become the party of the next inquisition.
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:16 PM (TN0g+)
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Scoop Jackson Dems. Remember that Algore was actually a religious conservative to balance Billy Jeff. Tipper was all about the record labels.

That part is dead.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:19 PM (ZOv7s)

200 Who wants to make a couple dollars? I have a 1/2 cord of wood that needs to be moved about 50 feet and stacked.
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I remember doing jobs like that as a kid.
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:09 PM (TN0g+)

I have three cord in my woodshed that I sawed, split and stacked by myself.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 07:19 PM (D7oie)

201 182 155 Wasn't Dershowitz accused of being on the client list?
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:06 PM (HFcKg)

He was, he was sued, but then he sued the accuser (Virginia Roberts) for defamation and she settled, making a statement of basically "I may have been mistaken"

Now... did money change hands? Did she run out of money for lawyers? Was she truly possibly mistaken? I don't know.

But it's not the exoneration he claims it is.

Unfortunately, being accused of raping minors is hard to put behind you. So I don't know, he could be innocent. Or guilty. We'll never know.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (uCjyK)

Dershowitz is very distinctive. I cannot think of anyone I've seen who vaguely resembles him.

And he had a preexisting Epstein connection, having represented him when he got that sweetheart deal due to being an IC asset.

Dershowitz is an odd guy to just pull out of a hat. And there would surely be a more lucrative target she could have named, if that was the game.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 07:19 PM (cBvpj)

202
Yates later reapplied for the position, and had the backing of many who claimed he'd been let go due to "transphobia." A district solicitor reportedly recommended Yates be rehired so as to avoid a possible lawsuit.

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Gutless. If my parents told me they'd shoved me into a locker room with someone like that because "Honey, he might have SUED us!!!" they'd never see me after my 18th birthday.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:20 PM (UmB+t)

203 "I apply for jobs but don't even get an interview."

To be fair, that happens even if you aren't a meth whore.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:20 PM (TwZXH)

204 Biden's should be a crack den/house of ill repute or a Trans am on blocks.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 07:17 PM (jPh2t)

A funny little 3 wheeled utility vehicle like Cleauseau drove with BOOKMOBILE stenciled on the side.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:20 PM (Hlfhp)

205 I just set a tree on fire and stand by it.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:20 PM (HFcKg)

206 Dershowitz is very distinctive. I cannot think of anyone I've seen who vaguely resembles him.

And he had a preexisting Epstein connection, having represented him when he got that sweetheart deal due to being an IC asset.

Dershowitz is an odd guy to just pull out of a hat. And there would surely be a more lucrative target she could have named, if that was the game.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 07:19 PM (cBvpj)

Plus, not for nothing -- he looks like he molests children.

Now I know that's not his fault, and we shouldn't judge a book by it's cover. That said, ehhhh....

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 07:21 PM (uCjyK)

207 Biden should just get a box to store his comic books in.
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM

Biden's should be a crack den/house of ill repute or a Trans am on blocks.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 07:17 PM (jPh2t)
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Converted motel, empty pool with the Trans Am in it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:21 PM (ZOv7s)

208 Posted by: Andrew Gillum at July 11, 2025 07:18 PM (TbWk/)

What the hell did I just read and who is Yates?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:21 PM (VofaG)

209 Never mind . It’s part of the homo post I skipped. My bad.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:22 PM (VofaG)

210 207 Ha!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 07:22 PM (TwZXH)

211
Not every president needs a library.
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Biden should just get a box to store his comic books in.
Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:12 PM

Biden's should be a crack den/house of ill repute or a Trans am on blocks.
Posted by: CaliGirl

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Biden's should be a display of prompts and maps to the podium.

YOU walk to YOUR spot and say "HELLO." Repeat the line. YOU smile. Wait for applause.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:23 PM (UmB+t)

212 London has fallen.

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Long ago, what is shown is the conquerors celebrating.

I flew into London in 1991 on a Sunday afternoon. The taxi from the airport to the hotel went past Hyde Park which was full of black shrouded women and their children, no Brits anywhere to be seen.

Posted by: Decaf at July 11, 2025 07:23 PM (unUNN)

213 >>I'll do it for 2 oysters, a 12 pack of Gansett, and a guaranteed spot on your boat for the aoshq Yacht Club Boat Tour. Final offer.

We should do a moron field trip to Block Island. Some of you might not survive but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:23 PM (viF8m)

214 I have three cord in my woodshed that I sawed, split and stacked by myself.
Posted by: Kindltot

I have enough pecan in my stack for about 3 briskets, or 5 sausage smokes that I paid a kid to saw up.
I'm not sure I win, but I'll eat better.

Posted by: MkY at July 11, 2025 07:23 PM (cPGH3)

215 The Biden Museum has the actual chain he used on Corn Pop.

A hands-on section where kids can feel his simulated leg hair underwater.

A daddy-daughter shower experience.

Sleeping with your babysitter - a symposium.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:23 PM (ZOv7s)

216 Was filmed getting spun and being f*cked by raw bbc. The video was sent to a member of the board at the school I worked at. That was my 'coming out' as a meth whore and I was fired," Yates posted on May 22.

Oh my! Sounds awful!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at July 11, 2025 07:24 PM (R/m4+)

217 London has fallen.

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Long ago, what is shown is the conquerors celebrating.

I flew into London in 1991 on a Sunday afternoon. The taxi from the airport to the hotel went past Hyde Park which was full of black shrouded women and their children, no Brits anywhere to be seen.
Posted by: Decaf

The sun has set on the British empire.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:24 PM (OPUTs)

218 The sun has set on the British empire.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:24 PM (OPUTs)
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Yeah, but that happened in 1965 or so. Been awhile.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:25 PM (ZOv7s)

219 Sundowner will never have a library, no one wants to bring up his administration
See his doctor as the 1st one

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 07:25 PM (+qU29)

220 >>I have three cord in my woodshed that I sawed, split and stacked by myself.

So this will be easy for you.

What time should I expect you. I'll go catch the oyster.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 07:26 PM (viF8m)

221 Saw an exit poll from the NYC primary broken down by various demographic groups. You’d expect renters to overwhelmingly support the communist who promised to confiscate condos and give it to them. And they did by double digits.

But what is insane is real estate owners also supported him. Something like +5 owner Cuomo. Only group that didn’t vote Mamdani were people with kids in private school and non-college grads.

I want this guy to win a landslide in November and give it to NYers (including all the Jews who will vote for him) good and hard.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 07:27 PM (ImXfC)

222 187
'Enough with the "Presidential" lieberrys. Once they are done in office, throw their shit in the dumpster.'

Presidential libraries are money laundering for post-presidency bribes.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 11, 2025 07:27 PM (3wi/L)

223 Melania chose NOT to live in the White House and of course no longer shares a bed with our beloved President

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 07:27 PM (N/8LG)

224 For fun I just looked up the Joseph Biden Presidential Library, and apparently there is a digital one that has been created and is part of the National Archives. But so far there is no physical Biden Presidential Library, and I could find no evidence of any plans to ever build one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:28 PM (Hlfhp)

225 Trump is going to have a lavish, luxurious, first-rate presidential museum, library, entertainment park and top-notch restaurant and his rivals will have...nothing.

No one is going to donate to the Joseph Robinette Biden Library. I mean, some might, but Hunter will put the proceeds in a crack pipe.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:28 PM (ZOv7s)

226 Took an hour to read and look at all of the links. You must be exhausted, Ace!

More - About the Library
The Barack Obama Presidential Library is the 14th Presidential library administered by the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), a federal agency.

Unlike other Presidential Libraries administered by NARA, the Obama Presidential Library is the first fully digital Presidential library. An estimated 95 percent of the Presidential records of the Obama administration were born digital, such as photos, videos, word-processing documents, tweets, emails, and other standard digital formats. NARA also received approximately 30 million pages of unclassified paper Presidential records.

The Obama Presidential records became subject to Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests on January 20, 2022. Records requested under FOIA are digitized, with the digitized records being processed for access review and requested records in any other formats (born-digital, audiovisual, etc.).

Following digitization, NARA stores and preserves the original records and the Obama administration artifacts in a NARA facility that meets NARA's standards for archival

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 07:28 PM (NFX2v)

227
Biden's should be a display of prompts and maps to the podium.

YOU walk to YOUR spot and say "HELLO." Repeat the line. YOU smile. Wait for applause.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:23 PM (UmB+t)

Perfection.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 07:28 PM (jPh2t)

228 storage. The dedicated staff at these locations will care for the records and artifacts.

Obama's Presidential records are administered in accordance with the requirements of the Presidential Records Act (PRA). NARA is committed to meeting all our obligations under the PRA and FOIA. The digitization and Presidential records review processes are separate and distinct.

For more information about the Obama Presidential Library, please see NARA's FAQ.

About the Obama Presidential Center -
The Obama Foundation is constructing the Obama Presidential Center on Chicago's South Side in Jackson Park. The Center is a privately operated, non-federal organization. The National Archives does not have a presence at this location. However, NARA and the Obama Foundation will work together to have records and artifacts on display at the museum at the Obama Presidential Center.

How does that work? 🤔 🤨 🤫

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 07:29 PM (NFX2v)

229 I just set a tree on fire and stand by it.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:20 PM

Ummm ... ummmmmmm ... umm ... not ... um ... ummmmmmm ... hrummmm ... cool.

Posted by: Treebeard at July 11, 2025 07:29 PM (0sNs1)

230 For fun I just looked up the Joseph Biden Presidential Library, and apparently there is a digital one that has been created and is part of the National Archives. But so far there is no physical Biden Presidential Library, and I could find no evidence of any plans to ever build one.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:28 PM (Hlfhp)
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Car wash and lube, just off the highway in Scranton.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:29 PM (ZOv7s)

231 "The Biden Museum has the actual chain he used on Corn Pop."

Hunter's immersion therapy tank. With Hunter in it.

Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 07:29 PM (vFG9F)

232 1991?

That doesn’t sound right. I was in London throughout the late 90s and into the early 2000s. And while it was definitely starting to change, I never saw anything like what you describe. The invasion didn’t start until Blair was elected in 1997.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 07:30 PM (ImXfC)

233 Well AliasSmith, Melania has never made any secret of the fact that she despises the city of Washington DC. Whenever Donald goes back to Mar a Lago, they’re together. Some overseas trips too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:30 PM (Hlfhp)

234
Following digitization, NARA stores and preserves the original records and the Obama administration artifacts in a NARA facility that meets NARA's standards for archival
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11,

The records are as safe as Fort Knox.

Posted by: SandyBergerspants at July 11, 2025 07:30 PM (jPh2t)

235 The Left says they just want cheap workers and that's so bad - but of course you know it's a lie because lying is the only thing they do.

So really it's not just about slave labor, but rather child slaves.

So on brand.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 07:31 PM (E0p3T)

236 Jill probably stapled a locater on Joe so she can find him in the house or tell if he falls down the basement steps.

Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:31 PM (1l+t9)

237 231 "The Biden Museum has the actual chain he used on Corn Pop."

Hunter's immersion therapy tank. With Hunter in it.
Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 07:29 PM (vFG9F)

Hunter's laptop and a crack pipe and a thumb drive with photos of Russian hookers, no yellow.

Posted by: SandyBergerspants at July 11, 2025 07:31 PM (jPh2t)

238 Nobody wants to go to the JEF's museum. First you have to go to Chicago. No thanks. I'd rather see the biggest ball of twine in Minnesota.

Posted by: fd at July 11, 2025 07:32 PM (vFG9F)

239 Well AliasSmith, Melania has never made any secret of the fact that she despises the city of Washington DC. Whenever Donald goes back to Mar a Lago, they’re together. Some overseas trips too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 07:30 PM (Hlfhp)
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Don't feed the trolls. We know that they are sad, grotesquely undersexed, lot T and they get paid by the post.

They've got four screens going, but three are porn, which is why their posting is not even close to previous volumes.

We should pray for them, that they find something useful and productive to do with their lives.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:32 PM (ZOv7s)

240 Biden thinks his Presidential Library was built long ago as Jill used to tell him that the Smithsonian was his Library when he asked where they were.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 07:32 PM (VofaG)

241 Alias can't wait to start turning in Jews to Hamas.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 07:33 PM (E0p3T)

242 Cafe nood

Posted by: SandyBergerspants at July 11, 2025 07:33 PM (jPh2t)

243 Jill probably stapled a locater on Joe so she can find him in the house or tell if he falls down the basement steps.
Posted by: jsg at July 11, 2025 07:31 PM (1l+t9)
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Ankle tracker. Just like Hunter's.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 07:33 PM (ZOv7s)

244 About the Obama Presidential Center -
The Obama Foundation is constructing the Obama Presidential Center on Chicago's South Side in Jackson Park. The Center is a privately operated, non-federal organization. The National Archives does not have a presence at this location. However, NARA and the Obama Foundation will work together to have records and artifacts on display at the museum at the Obama Presidential Center.
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Will it include both birth certificates?

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 07:33 PM (TN0g+)

245 Cafe is open

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 07:34 PM (HFcKg)

246
Obama library is nowhere in sight and it took 5 years to build the Hoover Dam.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 06:56 PM (UmB+t)

__________

Empire State Building took 14 months.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:35 PM (HZi96)

247 University of DE, Joseph R. Biden, Jr., Senatorial Papers

U.S. Senate, 1973-2009
Access to the Biden Senatorial Papers Collection During the Curatorial Process
President Biden donated his Senatorial papers to the University of Delaware pursuant to an agreement that prohibits the University from providing public access to those papers until they have been properly processed and archived. The University is bound by, and will comply with, the agreement. Until the archival process is complete and the collection is opened to the public, access is only available with President Biden’s express consent.

President Biden and his designees have access, under supervision of Special Collections, to the materials during the process. No Biden designee has visited the collection since November, 2019. No documents have been added or removed by any Biden designees during any visits.

Ha!

Now where are Biden's 'presidential papers' including his time as VP? Kosovo or Ukraine?

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 07:36 PM (NFX2v)

248 Just passed a cherry 57 Chevy Bel Aire two tone aqua body w white top.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 07:14 PM (OPUTs)

My 57 Chevy is Tropical Turquoise body and India Ivory roof. Very popular color combo for 57.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 11, 2025 07:39 PM (5xuJ/)

249
But what is insane is real estate owners also supported him. Something like +5 owner Cuomo.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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So the threats about property owners and Wall Streeters packing up are empty, just as I suspected. Naive question, why do banks and Wall Street firms have to physically stay there in the electronic age?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 07:41 PM (UmB+t)

250 JUST IN: FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino has reportedly taken a brief leave of absence following a heated clash with Attorney General Pam Bondi over the DOJ’s handling of the Epstein files

A good man taken out by the machine. The base will not like this at all.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 07:43 PM (/U5Yz)

251 "Broken Arrow" IS NOT calling in fire on your own position. PERIOD. It is for a missing nuke..
Posted by: GWB

Thank you. I thought I had gotten Mandela-effected into a different universe.

Posted by: Chuck C at July 11, 2025 08:00 PM (D0HYP)

252 Odd that the both pictures of the Mexican protest/riot feature messages written in English. Fake? Selection bias from an English-speaking media? Or perhaps an acknowledgement that the message is directed as people who wouldn't understand it if it were written in Spanish...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 11, 2025 09:00 PM (Lhaco)

253 Governor Nuisances belongs to the very Party(Democrat)who owned all those Slaves and You rspect Our Culture and Constitution Rosebud

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 11, 2025 09:17 PM (FLiOE)

254 Which suckers actually believe that Obama wants a functioning presidential library, where all the records of his administration can be examined?

Posted by: Ib1netmon at July 11, 2025 09:32 PM (vTTFR)

255 It's an amazing article designed for all the web visitors

Posted by: klia taxi limo at July 12, 2025 09:01 AM (gZ/GD)

Axios Claims Dan Bongino and Kash Patel Are "Furious" About Pam Bondi's Mishandling of the Epstein Case; Bongino Supposedly Will Quit Unless Bondi Is Fired

Pam Bondi, you may remember, said that the "Epstein client list" was on her desk waiting to be released. She also summoned a bunch of conservative influencers to the DOJ to give them supposedly new information from the Epstein files, but all of this information turned out to be old news. The influencers had their time wasted and Bondi was embarrassed.

Megan Kelly has been speculating that the countdown clock for Bondi's firing or forced resignation is coming.

Now Axios, quoted here by PJ Media's Matt Margolis, reports that Bongino took today off in protest of Bondi and supposedly might not be coming back.

FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino reportedly had a heated confrontation with Attorney General Pam Bondi over the Jeffrey Epstein files, and the fallout has been swift and telling. According to sources, Bongino was so frustrated with Bondi's lack of transparency that he took the day off work on Friday, leading some to speculate that he might have quit altogether.
"He ain't coming back," a source close to Bongino told Axios.
According to the story, both Bongino and FBI Director Kash Patel are "furious" with Bondi over the blowback her handling of the Epstein files has caused them. And who can blame them?

Inside the room: During the meeting, Bongino was confronted about a NewsNation article that said he and Patel wanted more information released about Epstein earlier, but were held back. Bongino denied leaking that idea.
"Pam said her piece. Dan said his piece. It didn't end on friendly terms," said one person briefed on the heated discussion. Bongino left angry, the source said.
"The fact is, Dan was for releasing the information with the video and had no problem until he got heat online," a senior administration official told Axios.
"Bongino found the video with the missing minute. He vouched for it after a 'thorough review,' he said, and he thought this would end the matter. When that didn't work, he lost his mind and ran out of D.C."
Said a pro-Bongino source: "Dan is not the bad guy here. He shouldn't take the fall."
Here's where things get interesting: Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche felt the need to defend the memo, insisting that all leadership signed off on it.

I don't know what's going on here. I trust Bongino and Kash Patel, and I trust Trump. So I don't have strong suspicions that they're covering anything up.

It could just be that this story simply does not end the way many people expected it to end. I know people have suspicions, but suspicions are not facts, and it's wrong to take one's suspicions as being true.

Posted by: Ace at 05:17 PM

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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (Wnv9h)

2 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (Wnv9h)

3 We need Bongino where he is, but the guy he picked to hold his place on Rumble is freaking awful.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (M0V4/)

4 Wait, since when is Axios a reliable news source? Are we all taking crazy pills?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (ZOv7s)

5 I'll wait 72 hours so I can never be wrong.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (mlg/3)

6 If I blame anyone in this Epstein mess I'd blame Bondi. If there were no Epstein files, don't tell the public that they're on your "desk" waiting to be reviewed. Either that, or after the review is done, say you couldn't find any crimes that could still be prosecuted. Going from "we're reviewing and redacted a bunch of stuff, be patient" straight to "oops, nothing to see here" just brings out the conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: Octochicken at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (oCS0o)

7 Basically this entire event cycle is being fed by Axios and its anonymous sources.

But I guess it's completely true.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (ZOv7s)

8 Axios? And their "sources"?

I'm supposed to believe a report from them?

Posted by: Raoul Ortega at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (TizQb)

9 My first clue about Bondi was her hatred of the 2A.
I wanted Gaetz or Paxton, I got DOJ Barbie.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (/U5Yz)

10 What a s**t show

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (VE6XX)

11 If it's being reported on Axios, it's probably bullshit.

Posted by: huerfano at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (n2swS)

12 4 Wait, since when is Axios a reliable news source? Are we all taking crazy pills?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (ZOv7s)

Since the DOJ gave them the memo first?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (/U5Yz)

13
Why do you trust anyone in government? Or media? Or both, in thus particular case?

Its wrong to take your hopes and wishes to be true.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (BI5O2)

14 On the one hand, I don't trust anything that shows up on Axios. On the other, there does seem to be a lot of chatter about this going on today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (uWKK8)

15 Since the DOJ gave them the memo first?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (/U5Yz)
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The unsigned, undated memo I could have written out at home? Oooh, letterhead! Must be authentic!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (ZOv7s)

16 But I would have no issue replacing Pam Bondi with Harmeet Dhillon.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (M0V4/)

17 They are already denying it. Just another attempt by the Left and NeverTrumpers to cause chaos. But will say if true my view of Bongino would be very negative

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (VofaG)

18 11 If it's being reported on Axios, it's probably bullshit.
Posted by: huerfano at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (n2swS)

Normally I'd agree with you but they did put out the story first that Bondi wasn't gonna release any files...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:22 PM (VE6XX)

19 For all we know, Bongino may have been planning to take the day off. Or something happened outside of work that needed to be taken care of.

A LOT of the stories that are attributed to "Source" are nothing more than the gossip you see in adolescent schoolgirls.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at July 11, 2025 05:23 PM (SRRAx)

20 As has been noted, this Epstein coverup is not going to be tolerated.

So unless the administration wants to tank itself over protecting an international pedophile racket, it better get it's mind straight.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 05:23 PM (XV/Pl)

21 Didn't Trump shitcan a ton of DoJ employees who no doubt could fake that memo?

But THIS TIME Axios is telling the truth.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:23 PM (ZOv7s)

22 16 But I would have no issue replacing Pam Bondi with Harmeet Dhillon.
Posted by: Stu Podaso a

*perks up

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:23 PM (/U5Yz)

23 Are we really to believe they had no idea who was going to Lollipop Island? Really?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:24 PM (w0zR+)

24 At this point I want them all to stay where they are.. The Dems want chaos .....Don't give it to them...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (VE6XX)

25 I agree with Mickey Kaus - between this and Trump saying "maybe we won't deport the illegals who work on farms and in hotels":

Weird. He had all the makings of a triumphant surge--peace, prosperity, a big legislative victory--and threw it all away.

Hopefully Trump turns this around.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (xTIDn)

26 This is just another part of Con. Inc. trying to stir the pot for fun and clicks.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (ZOv7s)

27 9 My first clue about Bondi was her hatred of the 2A.
I wanted Gaetz or Paxton, I got DOJ Barbie.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (/U5Yz)

Gaetz was always a joke nomination, that was just about giving both him and Mike Johnson a face saving way to get him out of the house before that lurid sex report got released.
Paxton has a very good chance of replacing Cornyn, which will be a great spot for him, but there is no way he would ever get past any kind of official confirmation hearings. He's always got to win elected seats, he'll never be appointed to anything.

But there's plenty of good candidates out there who could replace Bondi.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (uWKK8)

28 Regardless of any truths we do not know, we certainly know this -- Bondi handled this very poorly.
I think she must be very stupid and does not understand that when she talks, there are minds on the other end of those words who will interpret those words and draw conclusions.

Lawyers are supposed to be good at speaking and understanding implications of sentences. Not her.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (8LN1t)

29 Julie Kelly has reported on this. She's more reliable than Axios. But who knows.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (bNf8H)

30 I wonder if the temptation for the current administration to use the Epstein list against its enemies is greater than its desire for justice.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:26 PM (0ZQDV)

31 Here's some squirrel:

Lucien Wolfe@nuclear_zero1 . 31m Replying to @MaryMargOlohan

They won’t say it publicly, but this isn’t about Bongino vs. Bondi.
It’s about who controls the evidence.

Back in 2018, Bondi was handed sealed access to Epstein’s metadata archives, including names, encrypted comms, and—most crucially—video footage.
Not the client list. The kompromat.

Bongino found out she wasn’t just withholding names—
She was protecting assets. Assets that tie into foreign intel networks and a very specific island’s blackmail hub.

That’s why he drew the line:
Not because she’s “incompetent,”
But because she’s untouchable.

DOJ wanted her in. Trump didn’t block it. Bongino got the message.
This isn’t a feud. It’s a silent war.
Part 2: Why was Pam Bondi *photographed entering Langley on a Sunday?

Who’s she really working for?

*grok says there is no evidence that Bondi was at Langley

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:26 PM (Ri+6K)

32 20 had no issue continuing the Zelensky funding, so it seems to not hold firm

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 05:26 PM (/YboP)

33 If it's being reported on Axios, it's probably bullshit.

Posted by: huerfano

I'd like to hear the source of this bullshit.

Posted by: Shitting Bull at July 11, 2025 05:26 PM (4DY5T)

34 'd like to hear the source of this bullshit.
Posted by: Shitting Bull at July 11, 2025 05:26 PM (4DY5T)
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An anonymous unsigned memo.

Which anyone could do.

And it dropped just as Trump had a glorious week.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (ZOv7s)

35 One things for sure... This is not going away soon...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (VE6XX)

36 "I'll wait 72 hours so I can never be wrong.
Posted by: weft cut-loop"

If being wrong is wrong, then I don't want to be right.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (fV+MH)

37 Remember, President Trump plays the news organizations like a fiddle. Every single week, something happens and the press is on it like a cat going after a laser pointer. With similar results.

By the way, what's the latest on the BBB? Did it pass and the world end? How about those boots on the ground in Iran after we hit Iran with multiple bunker busters. Deportations, those stop yet?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 05:28 PM (tT6L1)

38 One things for sure... This is not going away soon...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (VE6XX)
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It will be forgotten in a week.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:28 PM (ZOv7s)

39 36 "I'll wait 72 hours so I can never be wrong.
Posted by: weft cut-loop"

72 hours ? The fire in my hair will burn out by then...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:28 PM (VE6XX)

40 It will be forgotten in a week.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:28 PM (ZOv7s

If only...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:29 PM (VE6XX)

41 Annnnnd Axios is one of many media outlets who would love to crow about any success in creating fissures within the Trump administration.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 05:29 PM (36PRH)

42 72 hours ? The fire in my hair will burn out by then...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:28 PM (VE6XX)

---------------

Dash my lace wigs might be able to help you out.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 05:29 PM (tT6L1)

43 41 Annnnnd Axios is one of many media outlets who would love to crow about any success in creating fissures within the Trump administration.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 05:29 PM (36PRH)

This...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:29 PM (VE6XX)

44 If only...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:29 PM (VE6XX)
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Well, WW III lasted what 12 days?

This is much less important.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:30 PM (ZOv7s)

45 One things for sure, a hot dog is not a sandwich.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 05:30 PM (36PRH)

46 I don't know what's going on here. I trust Bongino and Kash Patel, and I trust Trump. So I don't have strong suspicions that they're covering anything up.

I know everyone wants to root for the home team, but I marvel at conservatives simply poo-pooing even the possibility that their own government is withholding the truth from them at this point.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:30 PM (cBvpj)

47 I will point out something that was on X today that was annoying - the Administration made a big deal about none of the Iranian missiles striking the American base at Qatar a couple weeks ago, so there was no need to respond to anything. So this week the Iranians started passing around satellite photos of the base, saying "ha ha ha look at this radar dome in the middle of their base that we blew up!!" And i and many said "oh the Iranians are just photoshopping that and lying. Because our military wouldn't lie about that."

until today, when the Administration said "ok we didn't really say nothing hit (YES YOU DID!!!) we said the bases operability was never threatened." Why oh why did you have to lie about something so stupid and obvious???

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (uWKK8)

48 But a thumb is a finger.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (fV+MH)

49 I know everyone wants to root for the home team, but I marvel at conservatives simply poo-pooing even the possibility that their own government is withholding the truth from them at this point.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:30 PM (cBvpj)

None of us are that naïve

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (VE6XX)

50 Missing minute?

Posted by: The MewTwix at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (6PgKW)

51 If Bondi is actually hiding evidence, for shadowy people in the DOJ, anyone who fires her needs to strongarm her right out of the building right then, with guards watching her every second, so she can't do any damage on her way out.

If she hasn't deleted the evidence already. I hate to sound blackpilled, but the lack of transparency makes me suspect the worst. Sigh.

Child trafficking, abuse, and porn is my hill to die on. I don't care who you are politically if you are complicit in any of this, or covering it up, you have to go. Even if it's Trump, or Bongino, or Bondi, or Elon, or some actor I love. They all have to go.

I hate the idea that people in Trump's cabinet are holding this Epstein list info back to use as blackmail leverage against politicians they need to vote their way. At the expense of justice for kids ruined by this monster? It's too horrid to think about.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (gWBY1)

52 I really don't understand why the DOJ released the memo, unsigned or otherwise, to Axios. What were they thinking?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (/U5Yz)

53 I know everyone wants to root for the home team, but I marvel at conservatives simply poo-pooing even the possibility that their own government is withholding the truth from them at this point.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:30 PM (cBvpj)
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Right, better vote for the Dems then. Can't trust Trump.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (ZOv7s)

54 OT: U.S. Sun reports on Air India 171 CVR:
'Cockpit audio also confirmed that one of the pilots asked: “Why did you cutoff [fuel to both f'n engines]?"
The other replied: “I didn’t."'

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (TwZXH)

55 Who gives a shit? You could take the four most dedicated Epstein case diehards on this blog and sub them in for these people... they wouldn't pry loose a single bit more evidence than these phony power players or the media mosquitos who report on them.

The fix was in years ago. It's always in, in every case. If you're looking to government to change any of this, you're out of your mind. You might as well ask PETA to endorse the Cattlemen's Association.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (BI5O2)

56 I really don't understand why the DOJ released the memo, unsigned or otherwise, to Axios. What were they thinking?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (/U5Yz)
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How do you know they did?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (ZOv7s)

57
9 My first clue about Bondi was her hatred of the 2A.
I wanted Gaetz or Paxton, I got DOJ Barbie.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM

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My first clue was her trying to railroad George Zimmerman into jail when she was Florida state AG, after he'd been cleared by local authorities as engaging in self-defense. Her public huddling and cooing for the cameras with Trayvon Martin's grifting phony baloney 'family' was especially disgusting.

1. Zimmerman was innocent.
2. She revived the case purely for personal political gain.
3. There was no political gain, because her antics made her look like a stupid asshole.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (OA/Kt)

58 Much more important issues to me right now than an Epstein list. A subject that's been talked about for a decade but now it's presented as some kind of current scandal.

Leave it to the right to sabotage the momentum we had going. First the brave BBB hold outs and now Epstein.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (VofaG)

59 47 I will point out something that was on X today that was annoying - the Administration made a big deal about none of the Iranian missiles striking the American base at Qatar a couple weeks ago, so there was no need to respond to anything. So this week the Iranians started passing around satellite photos of the base, saying "ha ha ha look at this radar dome in the middle of their base that we blew up!!" And i and many said "oh the Iranians are just photoshopping that and lying. Because our military wouldn't lie about that."

until today, when the Administration said "ok we didn't really say nothing hit (YES YOU DID!!!) we said the bases operability was never threatened." Why oh why did you have to lie about something so stupid and obvious???
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (uWKK

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Sounds like we were engaging in some Iranian style embellishment?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (36PRH)

60 recall that Epstein got off easy on the first charges due to his connections to the Intelligence Community.
IF it was the Mossad and/or CIA running a honey pot operation to gain influence over a number of powerful/influential people, you can imagine that the IC doesn't want the details coming out, particularly as the leverage still exists, despite Epstein's "death".

Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (Ovc06)

61 Glenn Beck @glennbeck going to bat for @dbongino 👏🏻 with a plea to President Trump:

“But America can’t lose Dan Bongino. He has SO MUCH CREDIBILITY. Everybody knows him, loves him. Pam Bondi has created so much DOUBT and CHAOS in this whole thing…either it’s a MASSIVE COVER-UP or she’s just FOULED IT UP…PLEASE, let’s NOT LOSE DAN BONGINO…FIRE PAM BONDI and KEEP DAN BONGINO, please!”

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (Ri+6K)

62 Oh please. This is Democrap-sourced op bullshit. Bondi ain’t going nowhere. Neither is Bongi ain’t either. Take a chill pill. There’s a reason this dogshit drops on Friday.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 05:33 PM (GuFmT)

63 The fix was in years ago. It's always in, in every case. If you're looking to government to change any of this, you're out of your mind. You might as well ask PETA to endorse the Cattlemen's Association.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (BI5O2)
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It will come out when the Clintons are dead.

Just like George H.W. Bush's affair became public after Barbara died.

I don't understand why people think it matters. The globalist power structure is collapsing but sometimes the bad guys live to die in their sleep. Deal with it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:33 PM (ZOv7s)

64 But there's plenty of good candidates out there who could replace Bondi.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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It has to be someone with prior DoJ experience if they are to run the place. Otherwise, stick a crony figurehead at the top and let the top assistant AG's like Blanche run the place.

Both GOP Senators and Democrats would be more than happy to repeat the first Trump admin where he was handicapped by Sleepy Jeff and then Bagpipe Billy. Both AGs had Rod "The Rat" Rosenstein running the DoJ to the detriment of Trump getting much done.

Trump appoints the wrong AG and you get some stupid special prosecutor bullshit for something stupid while all the POS Senators gather together to metaphorically stab him repeatedly in the back to preserve their grift and nasty precious Deep State.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 05:34 PM (ctrM5)

65 Glenn Beck @glennbeck going to bat for @dbongino 👏🏻 with a plea to President Trump:

“But America can’t lose Dan Bongino. He has SO MUCH CREDIBILITY. Everybody knows him, loves him. Pam Bondi has created so much DOUBT and CHAOS in this whole thing…either it’s a MASSIVE COVER-UP or she’s just FOULED IT UP…PLEASE, let’s NOT LOSE DAN BONGINO…FIRE PAM BONDI and KEEP DAN BONGINO, please!”
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (Ri+6K)
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That seals it: total b.s.

Beck is a nuttier than a fruitcake.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:34 PM (ZOv7s)

66 "Beck is a nuttier than a fruitcake.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd"

Yeah.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 05:35 PM (fV+MH)

67 37 Remember, President Trump plays the news organizations like a fiddle. Every single week, something happens and the press is on it like a cat going after a laser pointer. With similar results.

By the way, what's the latest on the BBB? Did it pass and the world end? How about those boots on the ground in Iran after we hit Iran with multiple bunker busters. Deportations, those stop yet?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker
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So, when he slammed the door on it in the cabinet meeting he intentionally fanned the flames?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (Ri+6K)

68 The only recourse at this time is for Pam Bondi to recuse herself.

I love saying that word...Recuse. Recuse. Hahahaha!

Posted by: Jeff Sessions, Alabama Hillbilly at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (R/m4+)

69 We can't go on together
With suspicious minds

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (viF8m)

70 My first clue was her trying to railroad George Zimmerman into jail when she was Florida state AG,

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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I forgot about that. That is a deal killer for me.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (8LN1t)

71 54 OT: U.S. Sun reports on Air India 171 CVR:
'Cockpit audio also confirmed that one of the pilots asked: “Why did you cutoff [fuel to both f'n engines]?"
The other replied: “I didn’t."'
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (TwZXH)

This crash has just jumped into totally bizarre territory, and now any wild story is becoming believable. I had been sure it was a problem with the flaps, because it is unthinkable that BOTH engines would just shut down for no reason immediately after take off.
And yet THAT is what actually happened???

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (uWKK8)

72 I do think it funny that Bondi has so many haters, all because of this one thing. It's so stupid.

She's crushing the rogue judges, hammering the colleges with lawsuits over Title IX, but none of that counts because we have like 60 senators who will totally confirm someone even more competent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (ZOv7s)

73 Missing minute?
Posted by: The MewTwix at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (6PgKW)

Out of ten hours. Who killed Epstein? The Flash?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (VofaG)

74 Funny how the calls for Bondi's head are growing louder just after a bunch of layoff notices were sent to a bunch of DOJ employees.

But, I'm sure one has nothing to do with the other.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (tT6L1)

75 And yet THAT is what actually happened???
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (uWKK

Suicide or homicide?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (VE6XX)

76 >>It could just be that this story simply does not end the way many people expected it to end. I know people have suspicions, but suspicions are not facts, and it's wrong to take one's suspicions as being true.

A LOT of the suspicions are founded on the Statements and Evidence from Epstein's Florida Conviction / Sweetheart Deal.

Where Dershowitz was representing him.

And Dersh has stated that there was absolutely a client list.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (Bi+MU)

77 I listened to dan bongio's radio show for over a year before he left to go to the fib. He did multiple shows on epstein's client list and the cover up that the fib was doing with it.

To me unless he quits in protest he has lost all credibility that he has earned.

I understand that he can't talk about what he has seen at the fib and we will never know from him what was going on, but he can do a proper flounce and walk out with a statement that he no longer trusts the doj or the fib to be honest with the American people.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (e5NfL)

78 It will come out when the Clintons are dead.
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Lol. They effectively are. None of this will ever come out.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (BI5O2)

79 You can tell how badly Bondi (and perhaps others) mismanaged this situation by contrasting this with how Tulsi handled the JFK and RFK material. There documents were simply released without much organization, and they were disappointing to the smoking gun conspiracy theory brigade (especially the RFK documents that really made Sirhan Sirhan look bad). But there was a strong feeling that transparency had been achieved.

We all saw the photos of the stacks of video recordings seized from Epstein. You can't promise transparency and then just hand-wave that away months later as "it was all child porn". Even if you are engaging in a coverup, you release a manifest of the evidence:

Video 1: Epstein recorded himself assaulting minor victim 1 for 15 minutes

Video 1: Epstein recorded himself assaulting minor victim 2 for 20 minutes

It's not rocket science, and a lot more people would quiet down.

Posted by: the lower depths at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (+b4rY)

80 "Right, better vote for the Dems then. Can't trust Trump."

I don't trust Trump any more than any other politician. That in no way implies that I would ever vote Democrat. He was simply the lesser of two evils. It makes no sense to trust our government at this point.

That said, I got no big complaints with Trump's performance so far. The winning stuff is good. If he can't or won't kill the Deep State, oh well, at least take the W's anyway.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (TwZXH)

81 And Dersh has stated that there was absolutely a client list.
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (Bi+MU)

He was on it then.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (VofaG)

82 >>Beck is a nuttier than a fruitcake.

Squirrel Shit takes a backseat to Beck's Nuttiness.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (Bi+MU)

83 71 My first clue was her trying to railroad George Zimmerman into jail when she was Florida state AG,

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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I forgot about that. That is a deal killer for me.
Posted by: bob (

Me too. She's no f*cking good.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (/U5Yz)

84 To me unless he quits in protest he has lost all credibility that he has earned.

I understand that he can't talk about what he has seen at the fib and we will never know from him what was going on, but he can do a proper flounce and walk out with a statement that he no longer trusts the doj or the fib to be honest with the American people.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (e5NfL)
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Why?

He's not in charge of the DoJ. Why does he get to tell his boss what to do? Is this even his decision to make?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (ZOv7s)

85 If she hasn't deleted the evidence already. I hate to sound blackpilled, but the lack of transparency makes me suspect the worst. Sigh.

Yeah, I never really cared about or followed the stupid Epstein story. But Bondi and company went from “We will release all the evidence” to “we’re reviewing all the evidence for release” to “here’s our conclusion, trust us” very much like that clown meme.

Which is very annoyingly making me care about the stupid Epstein story.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (EXyHK)

86 One of the top plays in the Democrat/anti-Trump playbook is the "wedge" attack, where they declare that Trump is doing something that will forever alienate all of MAGA from him. They've pulled variations of this for years, and this is just one of the latest.

Trying to "poison" a Trump administration member is tops on the list for this method.

Posted by: MartynWW at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (vXpHP)

87 Look how Trump reacted at his cabinet meeting when a reporter asked a question about Epstein.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:39 PM (viF8m)

88 Where Dershowitz was representing him.

And Dersh has stated that there was absolutely a client list.
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (Bi+MU)
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So Axios' memo is refuted by multiple sources. You the one with NO ONE'S SIGNATURE ON IT.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:39 PM (ZOv7s)

89 >>He was on it then.

Oh, I don't believe his story at all.

He has lied repeatedly in his self-defense of his Epstein Island Visit.
Contradicts himself numerous times.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:39 PM (Bi+MU)

90 I know people have suspicions, but suspicions are not facts, and it's wrong to take one's suspicions as being true.

If I suspect that you are pissing down my back while telling me its raining ? Going to stick with my suspicions.

But here's the facts. One man dead. One woman in jail. All the structures on one island burned to the ground.

And only one accused john. Yeah. I'll stick to my suspicions.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 05:39 PM (b8SxD)

91 I don't understand why people think it matters. The globalist power structure is collapsing but sometimes the bad guys live to die in their sleep. Deal with it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Something that tends to affect people is the perceived injustices to others that they can champion. So you get pro and anti Casey Anthony, pro and anti Russia Russia, and so on.

Anything released on Epstein is likely to be like the JFK/RFK release--no smoking gun, a lot of bureaucratic memos--some tantalizing in nature but inconclusive, and no assurance that anything released has not been scrubbed to the desire of the Deep State.

The best way to get justice for the whole affair is start defunding and draining a world situation where you get stupid shit like Ukraine, perpetual war in the Mideast, and elsewhere. Send the cartel and potential terrorists back to their home countries and so on.

Like Slapton Sands, Pearl Harbor, Russia Russia, the whole Watergate op by the Deep State, there will never be a happy movie style conclusion to this affair. Simply a long drawn out dribble of stuff that may or may not be true just like these 'stories'.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 05:40 PM (ctrM5)

92
Beck is a nuttier than a fruitcake.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed

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I listened to a clip of Beck yesterday that made me puke.
He was talking about the fate of the West and the invasion by islam and he and his guest both gave a disclaimer about how they were talking about "islamists" and not "islam".

Yeah, we are past that. They are all "-ists" -- that is the whole point of what every single one of them believe. All their actions are tailored to take over - the coverings, the public praying, the demands, the rapes, the speakers ... the whole point of every single believer is to take over our land, lives, and liberty.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 05:40 PM (8LN1t)

93 So, when he slammed the door on it in the cabinet meeting he intentionally fanned the flames?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (Ri+6K)
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I'm merely pointing out this is not the first time something has happened in time for a Friday news dump and the media has breathlessly reported things are tense within the Trump administration.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 05:40 PM (tT6L1)

94 >>> 72 54 OT: U.S. Sun reports on Air India 171 CVR:
'Cockpit audio also confirmed that one of the pilots asked: “Why did you cutoff [fuel to both f'n engines]?"
The other replied: “I didn’t."'
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (TwZXH)

This crash has just jumped into totally bizarre territory, and now any wild story is becoming believable. I had been sure it was a problem with the flaps, because it is unthinkable that BOTH engines would just shut down for no reason immediately after take off.
And yet THAT is what actually happened???
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (uWKK

DOGE! MASS FIRINGS!! TRUMP'S FAULT!!!

Posted by: This... is XiNN at July 11, 2025 05:40 PM (ULPxl)

95 Maybe they started this dust up to take the spotlight off the ICE raids ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:41 PM (VE6XX)

96 I don't believe Axios. I think Kash Patel and Bongino have been using the Epstein files to make arrests.

That said, Pam Bondi was behind the Zimmermann prosecution, and likely knew that TrayVon's girlfriend who they put on the stand was a fake witness.

Posted by: MikeN at July 11, 2025 05:41 PM (HVZOH)

97 A LOT of the suspicions are founded on the Statements and Evidence from Epstein's Florida Conviction / Sweetheart Deal.

Where Dershowitz was representing him.

And Dersh has stated that there was absolutely a client list.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM

And dershowitz defended epstein. He was given access to every single piece of evidence the fib had on epstein for his defense. He has gone on record saying there was a client list and he saw it and could actually name names but he is forbidden to do so because of the court agreements he signed.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 05:41 PM (e5NfL)

98 Trying to "poison" a Trump administration member is tops on the list for this method.
Posted by: MartynWW at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (vXpHP)
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Yep, and it's sad to see so many otherwise sensible people take the bait.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:42 PM (ZOv7s)

99 I think there was so much damaging evidence against both powerful individuals and potentially government agencies that we may never see the files.

Could you imagine if the CIA was somehow connected to Epstein?

Gutfeld had a great point yesterday. They botched this Epstein thing up so badly that it's almost like President Trump wanted people to know that the Epstein files were HUGE and that's why they they couldn't release them. Wink. Wink.

Oh, and FANTASTIC NEWS!

I was at the dollar store. There is actually a LIZZO colouring book!!!! It was 3 bucks. I have the money but unless I get a shot at making the art thread, what's the point?

Posted by: Stateless BUT NOT HOMELESS - 6% Towards 20% - getting better at July 11, 2025 05:42 PM (jvJvP)

100 >>> 96 Maybe they started this dust up to take the spotlight off the ICE raids ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:41 PM (VE6XX)

Crazy talk!

Posted by: Donald J Trump and Elon Musk at July 11, 2025 05:42 PM (ULPxl)

101 Oh wait ... two johns. Prince Andrew. Who, last I checked, is not in jail.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 05:42 PM (b8SxD)

102 Maybe they started this dust up to take the spotlight off the ICE raids ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:41 PM (VE6XX)
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WE HAVE A WINNER!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:42 PM (ZOv7s)

103 Bondi was one of the few lawyers who stepped forward to defend Trump during his impeachment hearing. She took a lot of abuse for that. The idea that she has gone rogue against Trump is dumb.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:43 PM (viF8m)

104 Dave Rubin interviewed Glenn Beck recently, they discussed Bongino. They are both friends of him. They both trust him. So to suddenly have decades of trust thrown into doubt is hard.

Beck: "We're at a crossroads because I know Dan Bongino...I've known him since before anything and I trust him. Do I have to trust a guy I know personally...appointed by a president I trust...If I don't trust them, who's left? Who's left? There's no one."

Rubin: "Once you go down that road, then you are spinning...I've known him to be an honorable person...then really, where are we?"

Beck: "We have no information...we have suspicion...But I need to SEE these things. We CANNOT go on trust, we need to go on facts."

Rubin: "...Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Bongino discussion is the last segment of their interview, 50 minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QS-QSPlgWI

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:44 PM (gWBY1)

105 This will only destroy Trump if idiot GOPers turn on him. No one else cares. The Dems are terrified of the topic, but it's a great way for Axios to stir the pot.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:44 PM (ZOv7s)

106 She took a lot of abuse for that. The idea that she has gone rogue against Trump is dumb.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:43 PM (viF8m)

I agree... I can't help but think this came with Trump's blessing or maybe even prodding...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:44 PM (VE6XX)

107 76 And yet THAT is what actually happened???
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (uWKK

Suicide or homicide?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:37 PM (VE6XX)

I think I believe the pilots - it looks like they were both honestly surprised by what happened, and another source is reporting multiple attempts were made to restart the engines, which failed. It looks to me as though the fuel system was sabotaged on the ground, but why? And it would have taken someone very sophisticated in aeronautical engineering to do such a specific type of sabotage.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:45 PM (uWKK8)

108 "And yet THAT is what actually happened???"

I haven't dug out the official report yet. The videos look like the engines were switched off maybe 10 seconds after liftoff, the plane flying for another 22 seconds or so. The Sun says they restarted one engine, but if they did, the switches would not be in the cutoff position. Surprised they didn't radio anything about the cutoff in the 22 seconds they had.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:45 PM (TwZXH)

109 >>I think there was so much damaging evidence against both powerful individuals and potentially government agencies that we may never see the files.

>>Could you imagine if the CIA was somehow connected to Epstein?

Epstein was a CIA asset. That's why the case in ruby red Florida where he there were multiple victims claiming Epstein abused them when they were under 18 ended up with him getting a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:45 PM (viF8m)

110 86 - Excellent point. I have no strong feelings pro or anti Bondi like many people here, but the way this Epstein thing has been handled has been exceptionally amateurish in an administration that has been the most professionally run Republican Administration I've ever seen.

Posted by: the lower depths at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (+b4rY)

111 *bursts in*
*grabs fire extinguisher*

*pulls pin*
*aims at fire*
*squeezes handle*
*sweeps side to side*

You’re welcome.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (W2Pud)

112
people have suspicions, but suspicions are not facts, and it's wrong to take one's suspicions as being true.

===============

You're gonna make us guess what your theory is.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (UmB+t)

113 Bottom line for me: Bondi and Trump lied right to our faces about Epstein's list and "suicide" then proceeded with the blow off.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (/U5Yz)

114 Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed.

Posted by: Friedrich Nietzsche, the OG Black-Pilled at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (36PRH)

115
You’re welcome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (W2Pud)

Thank you.. It was touch and go there for a while..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:47 PM (VE6XX)

116 I could sooner believe that Epstein is alive and sipping Margaritas on a beach somewhere than that Epstein killed himself!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 05:47 PM (WK0PT)

117 >>> *bursts in*
*grabs fire extinguisher*
*pulls pin*
*aims at fire*
*squeezes handle*
*sweeps side to side*

You’re welcome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (W2Pud)

Bless you, Nurse! You always know what to do.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:47 PM (gWBY1)

118
You’re welcome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (W2Pud)
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Uh, nurse, maybe point that extinguisher a bit higher next time? Some of us are just a we bit taller than you are.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 05:47 PM (tT6L1)

119 ok, fine. I will repost , "In a Friday morning social media post, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche wrote that he worked closely with Patel and Bongino on the memo and that all three officials signed off on the memo’s contents and conclusions.

“The suggestion by anyone that there was any daylight between the FBI and DOJ leadership on this memo’s composition and release is patently false,” Blanche wrote."

I repost , you decide.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (g47mK)

120 112 *bursts in*
*grabs fire extinguisher*

*pulls pin*
*aims at fire*
*squeezes handle*
*sweeps side to side*

You’re welcome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (W2Pud)

----
I thought one of David Letterman's funniest stunts (when he was still funny), was spraying Richard Simmons with a fire extinguisher whenever he got handsy.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (36PRH)

121 "Bondi and Trump lied right to our faces about Epstein's list and "suicide" then proceeded with the blow off."

I can accept that as long as we get all the other wins. Because I have to, I guess.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (TwZXH)

122 >>> 112 *bursts in*
*grabs fire extinguisher*

*pulls pin*
*aims at fire*
*squeezes handle*
*sweeps side to side*

You’re welcome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (W2Pud)

*ponders*

*tosses pie*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (ULPxl)

123 113
people have suspicions, but suspicions are not facts, and it's wrong to take one's suspicions as being true.

===============

You're gonna make us guess what your theory is.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM (UmB+t)

Yeah, this is just the kind of WITHOUT EVIDENCE bullshit that the media peddles all the time. Everyone in government and the news lies and suppresses information nonstop and then labels anyone who doesn't accept the narrative as a conspiracy theorist. It's called gaslighting.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (cBvpj)

124 >>I agree... I can't help but think this came with Trump's blessing or maybe even prodding...

I think there's a pretty good chance that some of the evidence might be highly damaging to the US or some of our allies.

Look at how Trump reacted to a question about Epstein the other day. Does anyone seriously think Donald Trump, the guy taking a blow torch to the deep state, wants to protect perverts over this?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (viF8m)

125 Epstein was a CIA asset. That's why the case in ruby red Florida where he there were multiple victims claiming Epstein abused them when they were under 18 ended up with him getting a slap on the wrist.

Tell me this ... honestly. Do you believe Epstein found the money to build an island and charter service dedicated to the transport of underage girls ... and he was the only one tapping those girls despite the whos who list of those on the island ?

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 05:49 PM (b8SxD)

126 *bursts in*
*grabs fire extinguisher*

*pulls pin*
*aims at fire*
*squeezes handle*
*sweeps side to side*

You’re welcome.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:46 PM

Nice try but this is lithium battery level fire stuff.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 05:49 PM (e5NfL)

127
Look at how Trump reacted to a question about Epstein the other day. Does anyone seriously think Donald Trump, the guy taking a blow torch to the deep state, wants to protect perverts over this?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (viF8m)
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Yeah, this is the same guy who sicced the US Marshal service on child traffickers in his first term.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 05:49 PM (tT6L1)

128 Bongino Supposedly Will Quit Unless Bondi Is Fired
......

"He just wants to date me." - Pam Bondi

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:49 PM (v0R5T)

129 I think most of the rumors about Bondi and negative stuff about her is coming from Loomer, whos is like 50/50 accurate. Well, maybe like 70/30...70 being wrong

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (g47mK)

130 Can we talk about the Moderna Covid vax that was just approved by the FDA.

*runs*

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (/U5Yz)

131 @megynkelly . 38m

Can confirm it’s Bongino or Bondi - and the pick is obvious.
Bondi must go.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (Ri+6K)

132 >>I think there's a pretty good chance that some of the evidence might be highly damaging to the US or some of our allies.

What...
like a member/members of the British Royal Family?

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (Bi+MU)

133 I'm in the minority here, but I don't give a rat's ass about any of the Epstein stuff. Is it terrible what happened to his victims? Yes, but it can't be undone and they'll never be compensated in any way. Is there a "list" of his "clients?" Yes, of course. Blackmailers collect evidence. But I find myself wondering if it's worse wondering who's on the list and should be brought to justice, and seeing who is actually on the list and watching as they are NEVER brought to justice, because they wouldn't be.

He was horrible, he's dead, and the bigwigs will get away with their crimes. Yawn. Drop it and focus on shit that actually matters and might actually get done. Keep moving the ball.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (F30Bl)

134 129 I think most of the rumors about Bondi and negative stuff about her is coming from Loomer, whos is like 50/50 accurate. Well, maybe like 70/30...70 being wrong
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (g47mK)

I don't trust Looney Loomer...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (VE6XX)

135
"He just wants to date me." - Pam Bondi
Posted by: wth

Bondi's never been married. Odd no?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (/U5Yz)

136 >>> 132 >>I think there's a pretty good chance that some of the evidence might be highly damaging to the US or some of our allies.

What...
like a member/members of the British Royal Family?
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (Bi+MU)

BURN IT DOWN

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (ULPxl)

137 61 recall that Epstein got off easy on the first charges due to his connections to the Intelligence Community.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy
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Anything released is going to be something like the JFK or RFK documents. I've read the depositions from the Prince Andrew lawsuit plus as much has been released from the earlier 2008 Palm Beach conviction. Lot of he said, she said, in depositions and testimony, silence from Epstein and Maxwell, and virtually nothing about who Epstein entertained. You get a very small slice of it with Giuffre but a lot of the other girls have ODed, vanished, or gave bland statements about what went on.

To make a case, you have to prove that the girls were under the age of consent, that they were in fact not voluntarily having sex in exchange for Epstein giving them bennies, and get testimony on the record in open court that such and such happened. Since Ghislaine perhaps or certainly Epstein were the contact person with whoever their IC handler was, the girls probably know nothing about that end. And those handlers, who are often false flag (aka an Australian who appears English, an American appearing Israeli, etc.) and codenamed.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (ctrM5)

138 What...
like a member/members of the British Royal Family?
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (Bi+MU)

More like the current Israeli Government.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (uWKK8)

139 If Dershowitz has seen the client list why isn't he dead?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (VofaG)

140 Don't make me do it.

Posted by: guy who always yells for the Hall Monitor at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (v0R5T)

141 135
"He just wants to date me." - Pam Bondi
Posted by: wth

Bondi's never been married. Odd no?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (/U5Yz)

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Gay, definitely gay.

Posted by: Rain Man at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (36PRH)

142 He was horrible, he's dead, and the bigwigs will get away with their crimes. Yawn. Drop it and focus on shit that actually matters and might actually get done. Keep moving the ball.

Bullshit. Thats the Bobby Knight "just lie back and enjoy it" view.

Hard pass.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (b8SxD)

143 Look, this is the same as the old Lock Her Up stuff Rush tried to warn people would never actually materialize.

If Trump had actually arrested Hillary Clinton in 2017, DC would have fallen apart.

If any Epstein evidence still even exists in 2025 (highly doubtful, considering all those FBI raids and mysterious fires and so on)... same result. Too many powerful men would be swept up in the maelstrom.

Anyone who wants to work in that town can't afford to blow it to flinders. So it won't happen.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (BI5O2)

144 Loomer was right that one time...about Biden having a stroke, or something in Vegas, and being flown to DC at extreme velocity.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (g47mK)

145 >>Tell me this ... honestly. Do you believe Epstein found the money to build an island and charter service dedicated to the transport of underage girls ... and he was the only one tapping those girls despite the whos who list of those on the island ?

I don't think there's any doubt what happened. I also have no doubt that Epstein was a CIA asset and likely also worked for other foreign intel agencies. And I think a lot of what they did would be highly embarassing for multiple governments.

I don't need the feds to tell me that there are a lot of perverts in positions of power all around the world and many of them, most of them, get away with it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (viF8m)

146 ... Epstein files were HUGE and that's why they they couldn't release them. Wink. Wink.

Posted by: Stateless BUT NOT HOMELESS

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OK, but why wink.

That has to be the worst way of handling it. Even worse than the earlier denials that it existed.

Just say that for matters of national security, we can not go public with the actions we are taking against those involved.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (8LN1t)

147 Come to think of it, if the fuel was cutoff during ascent, I gotta believe that such an unusual event would have been telemetered to the ground via ACARS, but nobody reported receiving such data. Modern jets are constantly squawking out digital radio telemetry, via ACARS, about the performance of all their subsystems, right down to the lavatory fans.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (TwZXH)

148 Bondi's never been married. Odd no?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
......

Maybe she's not human.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (v0R5T)

149 138 What...
like a member/members of the British Royal Family?
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (Bi+MU)

He was found out because one of his victims Id' him ...

Have any of the other girls named names ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (VE6XX)

150
Here's the Dersh tape. He doesn't say it's a client list. He says "names." He seems to be more concerned that "false accusers" are being suppressed, and they should be outed.

https://tinyurl.com/48j6zmfu

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (UmB+t)

151 I think there's a pretty good chance that some of the evidence might be highly damaging to the US or some of our allies.

Look at how Trump reacted to a question about Epstein the other day. Does anyone seriously think Donald Trump, the guy taking a blow torch to the deep state, wants to protect perverts over this?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:48 PM (viF8m)

This sounds reasonable enough to me.

But then the US and its allies should be damaged.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (cBvpj)

152 More like the current Israeli Government.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (uWKK

Dude, they run the sting, not participate in it! Get with the program !

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (g47mK)

153 39 If Dershowitz has seen the client list why isn't he dead?
Posted by: polynike

He's got a kill switch(s) out there somewhere?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (/U5Yz)

154
I think Kash Patel and Bongino have been using the Epstein files to make arrests.

Huh??

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 05:54 PM (63Dwl)

155 Of course Epstein was an LE/IC asset.

The guy got his start when Bill Barr's dad got him a teaching gig, then he magically becomes a trading hotshot where Deutche Bank is covering his operation and Les Wexner is signing over billion dollar powers of attorney to this f**king unknown clown, he hooked up with the daughter of a spook and they are trafficiking under age girls all around the world, and hob nobbing with the richest people on the planet, he get banged up in Florida over sex trafficiking is cut loose because the Florida DA was explicitly told he was an IC asset.

It's of a piece with a former Navy Signal intelligence officer deciding what he really wanted to do was be a reporter and his first gig was getting a tip from the number two at the FBI that a bunch of CIA operatives broke into the DNC at the Watergate and it went straight up to The Big Guy.

It's all f**king bullsh*t, and I want these POS exposed, if they're not exposed and it's covered up, that means they are still running sh*t and we are in control of nothing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 05:54 PM (XV/Pl)

156 Not even Nic Cage could get to the epstein files now

Posted by: brak at July 11, 2025 05:54 PM (Hfyzf)

157 Bondi's never been married. Odd no?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM (/U5Yz)

She was fat at one time. Anyway Heather Graham and Morgan Fairchild never married.

Politically Condi Rice never married.

But yes I do find a woman never being married more odd than a man never being married.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:54 PM (VofaG)

158 >>Bondi's never been married. Odd no?

That would probably come as a surprise to her two former husbands.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:55 PM (viF8m)

159 If Dershowitz has seen the client list why isn't he dead?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM

A whole bunch of people saw that client list and other documents during his trial including dershowtiz, the judge, prosecuting attorneys and multiple court clerks. Pretty sure there is safety in numbers.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 05:55 PM (e5NfL)

160 I don't need the feds to tell me that there are a lot of perverts in positions of power all around the world and many of them, most of them, get away with it.

The names are a big part of why I voted for Trump. To Hell with tax policy if an international pedo ring is just not the hill to die on.

Name the names.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 05:55 PM (b8SxD)

161 Uh, nurse, maybe point that extinguisher a bit higher next time? Some of us are just a we bit taller than you are.
Posted by: blake

BLAM BLAM BLAM

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:55 PM (W2Pud)

162 "Look at how Trump reacted to a question about Epstein the other day."

That's what alarmed me. Bondi was being asked a perfectly reasonable question, and Trump leaped in angrily and made it clear we aren't to talk about that stuff anymore.

That was HIGHLY suspicious to me.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:55 PM (TwZXH)

163 154
I think Kash Patel and Bongino have been using the Epstein files to make arrests.

Huh??
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 05:54 PM

I saw this rumor online somewhere that they're not releasing the info because they're using the info to arrest and convict pedos but I think this is wishful thinking? I don't know.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 05:56 PM (jPh2t)

164 154
I think Kash Patel and Bongino have been using the Epstein files to make arrests.

Is this Qanon crap?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:56 PM (/U5Yz)

165 Bondi's never been married. Odd no?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
......

Maybe she's not human.
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (v0R5T)

maybe some are makin shit up. She was married 2 times, and is currently engaged to a dude who gave her that big ass ring

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:56 PM (g47mK)

166 You can tell Nurse has had fire training at her hospital gig. Knew P*A*S*S!

Nurse, were you ever forced to watch the 1978 documentary-"Hospitals Don't Burn Down"?

Posted by: Based On a True Story at July 11, 2025 05:57 PM (G5+As)

167 Codenamed covert ops individuals appear in memos across the JFK and RFK files but without reference to exactly who they might be for operational security. Then that works quite well to prevent any subsequent law enforcement actions because the first rule in criminal law is to identify who needs to be charged. Difficult to build a case otherwise.

This is why the whole inquiry into CIA dark prisons came to a halt when an ops guy (last name Rodriguez mebbe?) destroyed most of the evidence that would have been needed to actually prove violations of US law. CIA is simply not going to hand over its officers to foreign countries to be prosecuted. Heck, one such lady who killed a guy outside an American enclave in the UK was spirited out the country and simply is not going to be charged for it. Black ops mean even more such protections from being prosecuted by anyone.

And if by chance you got their 'handler'--their handler would claim no knowledge of law breaking but only that Epstein passed him some tips from time to time. You do not get smoking guns in these situations--maybe some post hoc CYA memos from office types but not from the people at the tip of the spear.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 05:57 PM (ctrM5)

168 He's not in charge of the DoJ. Why does he get to tell his boss what to do? Is this even his decision to make?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:38 PM (ZOv7s)

If your job includes, say, shaking 83 year old women down for money, and you don't like it, it is probably best to resign.
If you are a high value employee, you may be able to say, "fix this or I quit" or "stop being illegal or I quit" and you might make things better.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 05:57 PM (D7oie)

169 It's all f**king bullsh*t, and I want these POS exposed, if they're not exposed and it's covered up, that means they are still running sh*t and we are in control of nothing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 05:54 PM (XV/Pl)
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No, they could be out of power but still too dangerous to get at for a variety of reasons.

The problem you have is that you can't just drop stuff without evidence or its defamation, and maybe the evidence does not have a solid chain of custody.

You can drop all that after the perp is dead, though. I think there is a release, in train, but whoever created or leaked the memo jumped the train.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:57 PM (ZOv7s)

170 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 05:55 PM (e5NfL)

Then why did they have to kill Epstein according to the conspiracists?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:57 PM (VofaG)

171 >>Bondi's never been married. Odd no?

That would probably come as a surprise to her two former husbands.
Posted by: JackStraw
......

Yeah, now they both want half their shit back.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:57 PM (v0R5T)

172 Epstein was a CIA asset. That's why the case in ruby red Florida where he there were multiple victims claiming Epstein abused them when they were under 18 ended up with him getting a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:45 PM (viF8m)

Yeah, and Alex Acosta was the Southern District of Florida US Attorney who released him, and later fell on his sword as Labor Secretary for Trump when Epstein was re-arrested when that case was reopened.

None of this will come out now, anymore than then.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:58 PM (BI5O2)

173 Not even Nic Cage could get to the epstein files now
Posted by: brak at July 11, 2025 05:54 PM (Hfyzf)

Just squeeze some lemon juice on it. That should work.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Cynical Member of Generation X at July 11, 2025 05:58 PM (0aYVJ)

174 165 Bondi's never been married. Odd no?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
......

Maybe she's not human.
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:53 PM (v0R5T)

maybe some are makin shit up. She was married 2 times, and is currently engaged to a dude who gave her that big ass ring
Posted by: runner

I retract my previous misinformed statement. Now you may...

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:58 PM (/U5Yz)

175 Regardless of whatever, but it would be a bad look if Trump's AG has to leave after only six months on the job

does not inspire confidence

Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 05:59 PM (AOsQT)

176 maybe some are makin shit up. She was married 2 times, and is currently engaged to a dude who gave her that big ass ring
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:56 PM (g47mK)

Thanks I didn't know that. Mainly because I didn't care. But I do like accuracy.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:59 PM (VofaG)

177 She was married 2 times, and is currently engaged to a dude who gave her that big ass ring

Which raises the most interesting issue of the thread: what kind of maniac signs up to be spouse number three to a lawyer?!?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:59 PM (cBvpj)

178 147 Come to think of it, if the fuel was cutoff during ascent,

Posted by: Hacked gp's
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This used to happen to a chevy I once owned -- stalled out going up hills. I would check the fuel filter.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 05:59 PM (8LN1t)

179 >>She was married 2 times, and is currently engaged to a dude who gave her that big ass ring

I did stretch that hole out, too.

But, I did get her a big Engagement Ring.

Posted by: Mr Bondi at July 11, 2025 06:00 PM (Bi+MU)

180 It's of a piece with a former Navy Signal intelligence officer deciding what he really wanted to do was be a reporter and his first gig was getting a tip from the number two at the FBI that a bunch of CIA operatives broke into the DNC at the Watergate and it went straight up to The Big Guy.

It's all f**king bullsh*t, and I want these POS exposed, if they're not exposed and it's covered up, that means they are still running sh*t and we are in control of nothing.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

All you can do is manage the Deep State, never totally control it. Want to punish it? Cut the budget, remove their perks, etc. Prior to the current OSS/CIA, you had military intel that did some interesting things back in the day. One of my dad's fellow officers was deputy director of US Military Intel before he retired. They got to do some stuff including breaking into all sorts of computer systems in order to 'test' those systems for security.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:00 PM (ctrM5)

181 If your job includes, say, shaking 83 year old women down for money, and you don't like it, it is probably best to resign.
If you are a high value employee, you may be able to say, "fix this or I quit" or "stop being illegal or I quit" and you might make things better.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 05:57 PM (D7oie)
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If he resigns over the timing of the release, than he's a worthless tool.

He had a totally different job, and he can justifiably say: "I don't agree with that, but I'm still here to fix other things." Running home is grossly immature.

It's weird how often Conservative Principles involve quitting and going home with nothing actually being accomplished.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM (ZOv7s)

182 She was married 2 times, and is currently engaged to a dude who gave her that big ass ring
Posted by: runner
......

Third time's the charm.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM (v0R5T)

183
If Dershowitz has seen the client list why isn't he dead?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:51 PM

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See my link at #150. He says he's NDA'd.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM (UmB+t)

184 So I see that Tom Brady and Sophia Vergara are dating?

Big step up for Tom from that Giselle chick.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM (77rzZ)

185 She told me she was 19.

Posted by: PRINCE ANDREW at July 11, 2025 06:02 PM (5yGIt)

186 It's weird how often Conservative Principles involve quitting and going home with nothing actually being accomplished.

Or shrugging shoulders and saying "oh well, just how things are, move along".

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 06:02 PM (b8SxD)

187 All I can say is I hope they all stay in their jobs.. Don't give the media the satisfaction of a chaotic administration..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 06:03 PM (VE6XX)

188 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM (ZOv7s)

That's my feeling if the rumors are true. To be fair to Bongino I'm going to believe they are not true right now.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:03 PM (VofaG)

189 It would be cool if Bongino showed up Monday with the complete Epstein files, handed them to the press, and said "Fuck it. I'm blowing this whistle" and let the chips fall where they may.

That would be very very cool.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:03 PM (TwZXH)

190 Which raises the most interesting issue of the thread: what kind of maniac signs up to be spouse number three to a lawyer?!?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
.......

Gotta be a penniless drunk.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 06:03 PM (v0R5T)

191 Maybe Epstein’s not dead…

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:03 PM (77rzZ)

192 BLAM BLAM BLAM
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 05:55 PM (W2Pud)
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Hah. Love you too, Nurse. See you in October!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:03 PM (tT6L1)

193 This used to happen to a chevy I once owned -- stalled out going up hills. I would check the fuel filter.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)

Or next time use new Shell with Platformate!

Posted by: Tommy Tune-up at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (G5+As)

194 Or shrugging shoulders and saying "oh well, just how things are, move along".
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 06:02 PM (b8SxD)
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Priorities. Bondi is crushing it in the courts and without here in place, all those cases will stall out.

A new AG won't be confirmed until the fall, though Trump might get a recess appointment. And then what guarantee do you have that the new one will do the release?

it's just so self-defeating, a purity spiral for clickbait.

Oh, and Axios will claim credit for beating Trump. And they'd be right.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (ZOv7s)

195 If there is no list, then Bondi should have shut her fat, botoxed face.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (zZu0s)

196 So I see that Tom Brady and Sophia Vergara are dating?
......

Hope he doesn't bruise his face out on the lake.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (v0R5T)

197 It's weird how often Conservative Principles involve quitting and going home with nothing actually being accomplished.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM

Anyone with principles of any kind wouldn't serve the US government in any capacity to begin with, so their resignations are meaningless in that context.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (BI5O2)

198 She told me she was 19.
Posted by: PRINCE ANDREW
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Ni-ni-ni 19, 19, ni-19 19
19, 19, 19, 19

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (TN0g+)

199 @180

>>All you can do is manage the Deep State, never totally control it.

Perhaps, but the way this has been handled so far has been poor to say the least.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (XV/Pl)

200 People want justice.
Or at least a facsimile of justice. Or an attempt at justice and explanation for why the evidence is insufficient or the statute of limitations, or it was destroyed,....

If Trump and his brain trust don't understand that, we have a problem.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (8LN1t)

201 Why did Andrew feel he needed to chase jailbait when he already had that lovely ginger Sarah Ferguson?

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:05 PM (77rzZ)

202 It would be cool if Bongino showed up Monday with the complete Epstein files, handed them to the press, and said "Fuck it. I'm blowing this whistle" and let the chips fall where they may.

That would be very very cool.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:03 PM (TwZXH)

Yeah very cool for the rest of Trump's administration. /s

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:06 PM (VofaG)

203 MAGGA (Make the AG Gaetz Again)!

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 06:06 PM (4vd8A)

204
149 138 What...
like a member/members of the British Royal Family?
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (Bi+MU)

He was found out because one of his victims Id' him ...

Have any of the other girls named names ?
Posted by: It's me donna
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Virginia Giuffre filed a civil action against Prince Andrew which the queen forced Andrew to settle for a lot of money. Some of what we know about Epstein's NYC and Pedo Island trips come from civil depositions in the case. Lurid stuff but not particularly useful in identifying those associating with Epstein and getting favors from his 'girls'.

Nothing whatsoever to identify handlers in the IC in that case or in the earlier DoJ files released over Epstein's Miami days. Some is there about how Trump found out about one girl about to be trafficked from Mar a Lago and how he stopped it.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:06 PM (ctrM5)

205 Maybe Epstein’s not dead…
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He didn't kill himself...

Posted by: Hillary C. at July 11, 2025 06:06 PM (TN0g+)

206 202 Let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:07 PM (TwZXH)

207 >>Perhaps, but the way this has been handled so far has been poor to say the least.

Including the part where USAID no longer exists?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 06:07 PM (viF8m)

208 Both can be true. There can be no list and they can hate the secret Santa, disney princess way she handled it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:07 PM (zZu0s)

209 Which raises the most interesting issue of the thread: what kind of maniac signs up to be spouse number three to a lawyer?!?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:59 PM (cBvpj)
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Is she hot?

I put this question before this honorable House: RESOLVED - Pam Bondi is a 1.

Is there dissent?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:07 PM (ZOv7s)

210 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE, THE PREMIER SUPER JAIL IN AMERICA HOLDING EPSTEIN HAD CAMERAS THAT HAVE THE WORST VIDEO QUALITY IN THE WORLD AND DID NOT EVEN POINT AT HIS CELL.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at July 11, 2025 06:07 PM (/U5Yz)

211 My theory is as good as anyone's...I think this is causing MORE press from the MSM demanding the list...who ignored it for many years...trying to make things worse for the man they despise. It is going to backfire on them when/if more is released as they request. I am patient and can wait.

I am more interested in the complaints from Alligator Alcatraz. A guy from Venezuela, cry me a river, said the caged illegals in bunk beds are full of mosquitos, crickets and frogs. He thinks this is psychological to get them to sign self deportations and would not give his name. Or something like that as I pictured them freaking out in Florida summer nights and snickered and, as usual, did not read content. I would hazard a guess the snakes have not figured their tents out, as that would be worse than crickets. Top bunk!

Toilets are backed up. Worms in food. A lot of lawyuhs screaming about their rights being violated. No phone number to call their clients. It is unfair! Stompy! People running the place say this is a pack of lies.

I would like to remind them they had time to self deport to cooler Canada and did not. President Trump did warn you! Therefore, enjoy your tropical stay! Adios!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 11, 2025 06:07 PM (6PCLE)

212
Get Gulf No-nox!
no wait
Put a tiger in your tank!

Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (AOsQT)

213 202 It would be cool if Bongino showed up Monday with the complete Epstein files, handed them to the press, and said "Fuck it. I'm blowing this whistle" and let the chips fall where they may.

That would be very very cool.
Posted by: Hacked gp's
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Isn't going to happen for a variety of reasons. One, is that if Epstein was an intel IC, a lot of those files Bongino would never see--those would be CIA files. And it took over 60 years, several US laws, and Trump trying to pry those files out for his first administration.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (ctrM5)

214 Both can be true. There can be no list and they can hate the secret Santa, disney princess way she handled it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:07 PM (zZu0s)
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I guess I have to explain yet again that the binder gambit was a setup for SDNY's attorneys. She gave them out, then a whistleblower found they hid documents, the office was raided and the Dem operatives were forced to quit.

Why do people always leave that part out?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (ZOv7s)

215 Priorities. Bondi is crushing it in the courts and without here in place, all those cases will stall out.

I guess "crushing it in the courts" Trumps "don't screw up our cover-up of the pedo ring".

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (b8SxD)

216 "I don't know what's going on here. I trust Bongino and Kash Patel, and I trust Trump. So I don't have strong suspicions that they're covering anything up."

Exactly. Of all the parties involved, the only one who I would say has not "walked the walk" is Bondi, but Trump seems to have have done a lot better with his appointees this time around. Bondi was famous for her handling of the 2000 POTUS election, IIRC. Also, I think she was the one who caved to corporate media induced public pressure and charged George Zimmerman in the Treyvon Martin case, even though there was no legal reason to do so.

There are theories that this is about catching the object of their investigations off guard - so they don't flee, or find legal obstacles to throw in the way - by making everybody thing there is no investigation going on at all. There's another theory that this is an intentional invocation of the Streisand effect - tricking the media to pay attention to the issue.

All I can say for sure is that, no this isn't over, and no, Trump & Co are NOT taking bribes to give. the bad guys a pass

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (hOOi9)

217 Heh, didn't someone say here that Brady was hitting on Sydney Sweeney the other week?

Evidently, man has discovered boobs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (zZu0s)

218 Again if so many people have seen the client list why did they kill Epstein?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (VofaG)

219 Bondi was an obvious dud from the beginning.

She was integral to the Zimmerman trial, which Obama, Jarrett and Co intentionally used to smash this country apart. In a way few things have before or since.

People don't want to know only because they don't want to know. This wasn't some bad or crazy or rash decision she made. She tried to railroad dummy Zimmerman in a bs trial either on behalf of someone or for her own ends or both. Also not very good on gubs. Fuck her.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (E0p3T)

220 >>>"false accusers" are being suppressed, and they should be outed.

https://tinyurl.com/48j6zmfu
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Always thought at least one of the accusers was a CIA drone.
Just like BLM there's a trained initiator.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (Ri+6K)

221 Bongo is supposedly telling Trump to fire his fucking Attorney General — a cabinet-level position significantly higher than Bongo’s — or Bongo will quit? Get the fuck out of here. Either Bongo is bongos, or this is bullshit. No fucking way will Trump fire his AG to keep a deputy FBI guy.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (GuFmT)

222 I hate the idea that people in Trump's cabinet are holding this Epstein list info back to use as blackmail leverage against politicians they need to vote their way. At the expense of justice for kids ruined by this monster? It's too horrid to think about.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (gWBY1)

Why would anyone think, if this was the case, the call would not be coming from the very top of the Admin? Bondi would not be making this call herself, if it's a call being made.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (tOcjL)

223 Isn't going to happen for a variety of reasons. One, is that if Epstein was an intel IC, a lot of those files Bongino would never see--those would be CIA files. And it took over 60 years, several US laws, and Trump trying to pry those files out for his first administration.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Yes, there are files at DoJ - which may not amount to much, because CIA has all the film and stuff, which includes foreign powers.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (ZOv7s)

224

Everyone chill out. It's Friday afternoon, go do something fun.

Nothing will be resolved this weekend.

Posted by: four seasons at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (3ek7K)

225
125

Tell me this ... honestly. Do you believe Epstein found the money to build an island and charter service dedicated to the transport of underage girls ... and he was the only one tapping those girls despite the whos who list of those on the island ?
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 05:49 PM

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The salient unexplained aspect for me is that the 'clients,' johns, whatever had to be aware that their fun rooms were wired for video, and they attended anyway. 'Kompromat is the price of admission for upper level access to this thing of ours' has been offered, but it still doesn't hang together.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (ES1Rb)

226 I’d still go with Karoline Leavitt over the Pamster.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (77rzZ)

227 Secret Service Agent Walked Away from It All Hardcover – November 19, 2013
by Dan Bongino (Author)

In part, "New York Times bestseller, Life Inside the Bubble is an intimate look at life inside the presidential “bubble,” a haze of staffers, consultants, cronies, acolytes, bureaucrats and lobbyists that creates the “alternate reality” in which monumental policy decisions are made.

And it is the story of a dedicated Secret Service professional who, after years inside the “bubble,” walked away in favor of sounding a clarion call to the American people in defense of sane government and the US Constitution."

Working into a pattern of conduct, Dan?
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Now Bondi's not up to federal games & garbage left from the prior administration. Has she no mentors? Are there no competent Senior Executive Service - executive, managerial, and policy-oriented - staff members left in Federal law enforcement agencies? Or very good attorneys and field personnel? Find them!

The 1st game of the dems is to pick off the women - every single one of them regardless of their competency. Next is the younger men who could easily carry into another administration, and so forth.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (NFX2v)

228 Certainly " Nothing to see hete" isn't a answer

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (+qU29)

229 201 Why did Andrew feel he needed to chase jailbait when he already had that lovely ginger Sarah Ferguson?
Posted by: Bulg
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Even before Sarah, Prince Andrew was known in the press as Randy Andy. Multiple nailing of any willing poon in the UK and abroad.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (ctrM5)

230 Heh, didn't someone say here that Brady was hitting on Sydney Sweeney the other week?

Evidently, man has discovered boobs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (zZu0s)
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A blind man could see Sweeney's, umm, assets.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (tT6L1)

231 My guess is that there is still some significant obstruction within the FBI and the Justice Department and someone firmer is needed to break through.

Posted by: PG at July 11, 2025 06:10 PM (gQbO4)

232 Didn't Giuffre "kill herself" a couple months back?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 06:10 PM (BI5O2)

233 Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (b8

How long did it take you to doubt Trump pissed on prostitutes?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:10 PM (VofaG)

234 @165

maybe some are makin shit up. She was married 2 times, and is currently engaged to a dude who gave her that big ass ring
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:56 PM (g47mK)
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Maybe we have some Axios reporters here today.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 06:10 PM (36PRH)

235 "Isn't going to happen for a variety of reasons."

Plus his whole family would be killed. But let the chips fall IMHO. Let's see how the world functions with a little truth sprinkled on top.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:10 PM (TwZXH)

236 >>Why do people always leave that part out?

That was a different DOJ. That was the DOJ that has been suing universities and defending the Trump administration against non-stop lawfare.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 06:10 PM (viF8m)

237 >>> 224

Everyone chill out. It's Friday afternoon, go do something fun.

Nothing will be resolved this weekend.

Posted by: four seasons at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (3ek7K)

You're not the boss of me.

... I probably will have a beverage or two though.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 06:11 PM (ULPxl)

238 EpsteinEpsteinEpstein

Marsha Marsha Marsha...

Too funny

Posted by: man at July 11, 2025 06:11 PM (tubbA)

239 11 If it's being reported on Axios, it's probably bullshit.
Posted by: huerfano at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (n2swS)

It's astounding these days how many articles turn out to be outright fiction. I don't know if this is such an article, but it might be.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 06:11 PM (hOOi9)

240 I would like to know just what the List obsessives think is going to be on the List. At most it will be a set of contact names and phone numbers, and we already know who many of Epstein's contacts were. The way some people talk about it, it's like they think there's an invoice with entries like: "Bill Gates--a dozen Haitian minors for a private orgy", or "Prince Andrew--one 12-year-old, to go." In the movies, but not in reality. We don't want to get so hung up on this lurid sideshow that we lose sight of immigration enforcement, the cleanout of the bureaucracy, and other more pressing matters. The List is not a magic talisman that will wipe out evil forever when brought to light, if it even exists at all.

Posted by: Wiese at July 11, 2025 06:11 PM (W2RQ1)

241 224 BUT WE WANNA ARGUE!!!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:11 PM (77rzZ)

242 Evidently, man has discovered boobs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone
......

The greatest milestone in the record of humankind.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 06:11 PM (v0R5T)

243 Why do people always leave that part out?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (ZOv7s)

Why is it so unreasonable that she would have checked to make sure there was a list and she was in possession of it before putting out a press release?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:12 PM (zZu0s)

244 232 Didn't Giuffre "kill herself" a couple months back?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dic

Yes after stating she was not suicidal in any way.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:12 PM (/U5Yz)

245 The salient unexplained aspect for me is that the 'clients,' johns, whatever had to be aware that their fun rooms were wired for video, and they attended anyway. 'Kompromat is the price of admission for upper level access to this thing of ours' has been offered, but it still doesn't hang together.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug
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Go back and read the wiki page on Craig Spence, late of the Reagan White House, and homosexual pimp including recordings during the 80's. Also you bump into the Boys Home Pedo scandal which occurred about the same time involving DC pols and so on.

Where power and money coexist, you will have these awful palace games by depraved courtiers that seek to parley sex into power and information.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:12 PM (ctrM5)

246 I think, though, the infighting over Epstein is overblown. I seem to recall Judicial Watch has filed and won some preliminary case to get the Epstein files release.

https://tinyurl.com/34ptkcr7

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 11, 2025 06:12 PM (tT6L1)

247
My prediction:

Bondi survives
Bongos stays

Trump makes it work

Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (AOsQT)

248 >>> 225

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The salient unexplained aspect for me is that the 'clients,' johns, whatever had to be aware that their fun rooms were wired for video, and they attended anyway. 'Kompromat is the price of admission for upper level access to this thing of ours' has been offered, but it still doesn't hang together.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 11, 2025 06:09 PM (ES1Rb)

Why not? Maybe it's not only blackmail, but also a test.

Would *you* do some of the rumored things, even if you were offered billions of dollars and zero accountability?

What kind of person *would*?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (ULPxl)

249 Posted this morning that I was taking the weekend to ride the motorcycle off road for 300 miles of the Trans-America Trail, from Elkton,TN -to- just Sounth of Corinth, MS. Made it to my 1st night stop over in Waynesdorro, TN.

As luck would have it, I went down in a very low speed (like 1mph low speed) water crossing. Mossy moldy slick rock under about 8" of water. Could see the bottom. Had my feet out like training wheels to help support the bike, but the front wheel caught a small rock Crack and slipped right out from under me. Broke the left mirror, and drenched my lef leg quad muscles. This puts and end to my trip because I won't be able to lift the bike if I drop it again.

Ice, ibuprofen, elevation. I'll head home in the morning. This summer moose cock. Was looking forward to the rest of the trip.

Made multiple water crossings safely, one that was almost 2' deep too! Dang slippery full sunlight moss on the rock got me.

Posted by: BifBewalski at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (lKa8O)

250 And now the bewb discussion begins...

Posted by: That guy who likes bewbs and thinks its beginning at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (ZOv7s)

251 It's weird how often Conservative Principles involve quitting and going home with nothing actually being accomplished.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM

Trust, me, doing things that make you despise yourself will be the sort of thing that will get you to retirement, and probably dead within a year of that date, too. And you will not make any meaningful difference in the world.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (D7oie)

252 I wonder how Melania feels about this?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (/U5Yz)

253 Or shrugging shoulders and saying "oh well, just how things are, move along".
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 06:02 PM (b8SxD)

What do you propose that the rest of us do that you have not done yourself?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (89Sog)

254 @207

>>Including the part where USAID no longer exists?

That's great, but USAID was only one of the funding mechanisms for the Derp State.

And that has zero to do with exposing the Derp State Cabal that was running Epstein.

And fairly confident that there are other IC backed Epstein in circulation.

Carter Page was a version of Epstein, he wasn't trafficking in underage girls, but he was an IC asset that was intentionally circulating with "enemies" and then in turn interfacing with targets so that IC could have a hook to surveil the target.

None of what the Derp state is doing is directed at enemies, it's all directed at controlling politicians and the connected for their own diabolical ends and not making this country better or safer.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (XV/Pl)

255 Why do people always leave that part out?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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The parts we saw: Her touting that the files were coming out
Her handing out binders full of information
That contained nothing we did not already know.

Shotinfoot, bigtime.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 06:14 PM (Ri+6K)

256 243 Why do people always leave that part out?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:08 PM (ZOv7s)

Why is it so unreasonable that she would have checked to make sure there was a list and she was in possession of it before putting out a press release?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 06:12 PM (zZu0s)

B/c it was early in her tenure and everyone makes mistakes, especially if they were relying on people they trusted...

Or are we forgetting Hegsgeth's early mistake when his own friend stabbed him in the back...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 06:14 PM (tOcjL)

257 Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:12 PM (ctrM5)

Wilbur Mills and Fanne Foxxe.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (VofaG)

258 I'd put my money on Dan Bongino . The integrity to quit the secret service when he thought it was rotten. Patel is probably a good one too. Why is?
Bondi on fox news instead of in her office?

Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (AtFJ+)

259 184 So I see that Tom Brady and Sophia Vergara are dating?

Big step up for Tom from that Giselle chick.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:01 PM (77rzZ)

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I need to find that clip of her stirring chocolate milk on Modern Family.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (36PRH)

260 Have read about a hundred comments.
People mentioning the vid here and there. Mostly 'a missing minute' stuff.

Nothing about how your not even looking at Epstein's cell door.
Not even looking at the door that looks into the area where his cell was.
Nothing about how long the vid was that was released or how many people were seen coming and going.
No, I'm not posting a link.
Easy enough for you to go to utube and search Benny Johnson.
Peruse the titles over the last 3 days.
That's where I'm headed back to.

Posted by: TeeJ at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (5/wly)

261 Pam Bondi, you may remember, said that the "Epstein client list" was on her desk waiting to be released.
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She also said if Obama had a son he'd look like Trayvon Martin.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (/lPRQ)

262 Evidently, man has discovered boobs.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone

*quits beating the dirt, drops bone*
*grabs womans hair, drags her to cave*

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (v0R5T)

263 221 Bongo is supposedly telling Trump to fire his fucking Attorney General — a cabinet-level position significantly higher than Bongo’s — or Bongo will quit? Get the fuck out of here. Either Bongo is bongos, or this is bullshit. No fucking way will Trump fire his AG to keep a deputy FBI guy.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade

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I am reminded of Salmon P. Chase. Chase kept threatening to resign over and over again to get his way with President Lincoln in disputes. Finally, Lincoln calmly said to Chase, I accept. And Chase became ex-Treasury Secretary.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (ctrM5)

264 The parts we saw: Her touting that the files were coming out
Her handing out binders full of information
That contained nothing we did not already know.

Shotinfoot, bigtime.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 06:14 PM (Ri+6K)
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There was new material. Some folks dug right into it. It wasn't everything but it wasn't supposed to be.

Its real purpose was to purge DoJ, and it worked. If you can't see that, I can't help you.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (ZOv7s)

265 26 I’d still go with Karoline Leavitt over the Pamster.
Posted by: Bulg

Karoline is 27, Pam is 60. The math isn't hard.

Posted by: Observer of the Passing Scene at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (G5+As)

266 Blind guys probably enjoy boobs more than sighted ones do. It’s all tactile for them. They don’t even care if the lady’s good looking. Just feel up that precious mammary flesh.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (77rzZ)

267 So, do Ghislane Maxwell and Prince Edward get to see the nanager?

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 11, 2025 06:16 PM (QSrLX)

268 We could always take the tack of SuperHigh IQ Vox Day and claim that the reason Trump hasn't released the files is because he's been replaced by a double...

Posted by: Wiese at July 11, 2025 06:16 PM (W2RQ1)

269 nood

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 06:17 PM (TwZXH)

270 NOOD

week in woke

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 06:17 PM (ULPxl)

271 That's great, but USAID was only one of the funding mechanisms for the Derp State.

USAID was the CIAs slush fund. It was used to do regime changes, assasinations and other dirty deeds that weren't done dirt cheap.

It was also a large funder of the censorship machine that tried to take our voices away. It was the core of the cancer in the deep state. And they not only funded the Wuhan lab they sent it viruses. As in multiple.

Take their money and you take a huge part of their power.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 06:17 PM (viF8m)

272 You know what will make the base happier? Giving amnesty to illegal lettuce pickers and their families.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 06:17 PM (/U5Yz)

273 257 Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:12 PM (ctrM5)

Wilbur Mills and Fanne Foxxe.
Posted by: polynikes
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I knew some of the folks behind Wilbur Mills. That one was just sad. Wilbur was a workaholic that found himself adrift by teh changes in Congress undercutting chairs and their power in favor of teh caucus running the show. Wilbur took to drinking and didn't last long after his retirement.

Wilbur Mills was one of the few Congress critters willing to go toe to toe with LBJ himself when Medicare was being debated. It would have been a much worse program fiscally had Mills (as the imperious chair of the Ways and Means) not said no to LBJ.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:18 PM (ctrM5)

274 I am reminded of Salmon P. Chase. Chase kept threatening to resign over and over again to get his way with President Lincoln in disputes. Finally, Lincoln calmly said to Chase, I accept. And Chase became ex-Treasury Secretary.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:15 PM (ctrM5)

Claim to fame now is being a trivia answer to who was on the $10,000 Bill.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:18 PM (VofaG)

275 Bondi was one of the few lawyers who stepped forward to defend Trump during his impeachment hearing. She took a lot of abuse for that. The idea that she has gone rogue against Trump is dumb.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 05:43 PM (viF8m)

That makes it Trump's scandal rather than hers.

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 06:19 PM (zLwRl)

276 Trump is referring to Hegseth as the Secretary Of War

this is a thing that is happening

https://tinyurl.com/yvpwvtvt

Posted by: Don Black. Message: nothing will come of this at July 11, 2025 06:19 PM (AOsQT)

277 268 We could always take the tack of SuperHigh IQ Vox Day and claim that the reason Trump hasn't released the files is because he's been replaced by a double...
Posted by: Wiese
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He has become an embarrassment to himself by such things.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:19 PM (ctrM5)

278 They say Ramapithecus discovered boobs, but my money is on Homo Erectus.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 06:19 PM (v0R5T)

279 Claim to fame now is being a trivia answer to who was on the $10,000 Bill.
Posted by: polynikes
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And a Chief Justice of Scotus.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:20 PM (ctrM5)

280 I guess Kash and Bongino did some kind of turnaround about Epstein killing himself, since taking their positions. To me, it suggests that Epstein's death was faked by the Feds, so now they have to push the fiction.

We know that on rare occasions that the Feds DO do such things. If ever there was a reason to do it, it's with Epstein. Tons of powerful, high-profile people involved, as well as whatever high-level puppet masters were pulling Epstein's strings. To get his cooperation, he would NEED to fake die, and his death was as fake as any "suicide" by two shots to the back of the head.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 06:20 PM (hOOi9)

281 That said, Pam Bondi was behind the Zimmermann prosecution, and likely knew that TrayVon's girlfriend who they put on the stand was a fake witness.
Posted by: MikeN

IIRC - She could not read a letter she had allegedly wrote...

.. and on and on the BS in the trial went.
I did find it hilarious when they brought in Treyvon's hoody tacked to a sheet of cardboard the size of a sheet of plywood. It was way ovewrsized or that thug had one hell of a wingspan.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (/lPRQ)

282 Made multiple water crossings safely, one that was almost 2' deep too! Dang slippery full sunlight moss on the rock got me.
Posted by: BifBewalski

Old Hekawi saying: When shadow of wet bird fall on log,
Time out for beaver.

Posted by: Roaring Chicken at July 11, 2025 06:21 PM (G5+As)

283 >>That makes it Trump's scandal rather than hers.

If you think it's a scandal.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 06:22 PM (viF8m)

284 And a Chief Justice of Scotus.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 06:20 PM (ctrM5)

Just not his claim to fame unfortunately.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 06:23 PM (VofaG)

285 “This year has been the worst start to a new year, but I won’t bore anyone with the details but I think it important to note that when a school bus driver comes at you driving [60mph] as we were slowing for a turn that no matter what your car is made of it might as well be a tin can,” she wrote.

“I’ve gone into kidney renal failure, they’ve given me four days to live, transferring me to a specialist hospital in urology.

“I’m ready to go, just not until I see my babies one last time,” she added.Giuffre has recently been going through a devastating divorce with her husband, her father, Sky Roberts, told Dailymail.com.
_Virginia Giuffre

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 06:23 PM (Ri+6K)

286 "My first clue was her trying to railroad George Zimmerman into jail when she was Florida state AG..."

Yep. And nothing she's done since has changed my view of her.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at July 11, 2025 06:26 PM (eYAt4)

287 All you can do is manage the Deep State, never totally control it.
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Donald Trump did not campaign on controlling the Deep State.

He campaigned on obliterating it.

They tried to kill him twice. He needs to deal with them just as seriously.

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 06:28 PM (zLwRl)

288 Evidently, man has discovered boobs.

==

Evidently his taste is improving.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 06:30 PM (g47mK)

289 Wasn't the Queen who certainly knew exactly what was going on and throwing Andrew out of the family something to show thete was something to all of this?

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 06:32 PM (+qU29)

290 Took 3 bottles of salt pills and will wait another week on this kerfuffle

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 06:35 PM (HFcKg)

291 Wasn't the Queen who certainly knew exactly what was going on and throwing Andrew out of the family something to show thete was something to all of this?
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 06:32 PM (+qU29)

Yes, but Trump says we shouldn't talk about it any more, and that's apparently enough for some people.

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 06:36 PM (zLwRl)

292 "Axios Claims..."

I think I see the problem. Every reason to be skeptical of anything that comes out.

Now, I don't believe the spin coming from the Administration players directly involved with Epstein related material. Doesn't pass the smell test. But neither am I going to jump when Axios et al make any claims at all.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at July 11, 2025 06:47 PM (gLikB)

293 Aw, this was an extremely good post. Spending some time and actual effort to create a great article… but what can I say…
I hesitate a whole lot and never seem to get nearly anything done.

Posted by: LINK INDEXING at July 11, 2025 06:54 PM (as5kf)

294 Tell me this ... honestly. Do you believe Epstein found the money to build an island and charter service dedicated to the transport of underage girls ... and he was the only one tapping those girls despite the whos who list of those on the island ?
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 05:49 PM (b8SxD)

No, don't think I do.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 07:01 PM (E0p3T)

295 What do you propose that the rest of us do that you have not done yourself?

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 06:13 PM (89Sog)

A simple start. Call out that its bullshit, and maybe even argue with the "Well, Trump doesn't mind so why do you mind" crowd. Small moves.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 07:55 PM (RmOaB)

296 Pam Blondi Joke

Posted by: TexasJew at July 11, 2025 08:25 PM (7OF7k)

297 First up, I doubt Epstein had an actual list with everybody's name on it. Lots of records, but no Grand Ledger. I seriously doubt that. So why doesn't the current admin release a "client list" that they compiled themselves? Several reasons, but the main one is this:

You're not thinking viciously enough.

I've heard very little about a victim list. Epstein's crimes had been going on for a long time and there's no way he workes alone. Someone we never heard of waa supplying children for him. I am certain there's a very dark reason so few of them have been heard from after the story broke. I don't think anyone knows how many kids are caught up in this or where they are, or what happens to them if these as-yet-unnamed are suddenly named.

Or maybe not. That's my guess, at least partly.

Posted by: Editor at July 11, 2025 09:32 PM (bbqkM)

298 The Epstein list promise has always been about self-aggrandisement. Releasing peoples names without establishing guilt through a fair trial is a legal nightmare and anyone named would, correctly, sue.

Bongino's theory that Epstein was running a blackmail/recruitment op for Mossad is moronic. The idea that the Israeli's would put a high-profile Jew in charge of an operation to ensnare a bunch of people of extremely dubious value is silly.

Furthermore, it simply isn't how those ops are run. You don't run them like a conveyer belt for years on end, you don't run them with such low levels of control and so precariously, particularly on shaky legal grounds that involve multiple crimes in the process, and the sorts of people you want to run into your trap are not caught out by millionaire's volunteering to fly them to their private sex island.

Posted by: stv at July 11, 2025 09:44 PM (XMeSM)

299 Whatever files existed before Trump took office were long destroyed by the time Trump took office.
We know that is the answer.

Posted by: Davros at July 11, 2025 11:45 PM (tDF3V)

James Gunn's Superman No Longer Fights for "The American Way," but "the Human Way;" He and His Brother Both Say the Movie Is About How Vital Immigrants Are to Our Country

Superman is a character I want to like more than I like. I'm a traditionalist who likes old pulp characters, and I like Americana.

I was hoping this movie might be good. I hear some saying it's good, and some saying it's bad, but it sounded like I'd be in the camp of people that like it. The movie is cartoony and inspired by the goofy, anything-goes ethos of the Silver Age of comic books, which sounds good to me. Apparently the movie makes the case that Superman's real strength isn't his physical power but his simple goodness and moral strength, which sounds nice to me. I'm tired of Dark and Gritty Super-Heroes for Children.

But then these repulsive Hollywood perverts had to open their leftist mouths.

James Gunn changes Superman's catchphrase from 'Truth, Justice, and the American Way' to 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way': report

I know America isn't popular among foreign degenerates, so I would understand if they made this change in foreign versions of the film. Hollywood routinely makes American versions of films that push politics -- like gays kissing in cartoons for children -- that it takes out of the export versions. Why can't that be done here?

But apparently Gunn doesn't want to say that the American Way is worth fighting for even in America -- his lefty friends of course hate America -- so not even in the American version can we hear that America is good.

According to Comicbook, Superman's new catchphrase is "Truth, Justice, and the Human Way," as seen on official Superman merchandise, eliminating the traditional phrase Superman has used in stories since World War II, only a few years after the character was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster in 1938.
The phrase was seen on official Superman movie merchandise with David Corenswet as Superman. Gunn has previously said that he has to approve all the toys associated with the movie, per Cosmic Book News.
The figure of Superman comes with text that reads, "Superman must reconcile his alien Kryptonian heritage with his human upbringing as reporter Clark Kent. As the embodiment of truth, justice, and the human way he soon finds himself in a world that views these as old-fashioned."

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The reboot of the hero film directed by Gunn has been slammed before it comes out in theatres on July 11 after Gunn made comments suggesting that the story would highlight Superman as being an immigrant from another planet.
"I mean, Superman is the story of America," Gunn told reporters at The Times of London. "An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country. But for me it is mostly a story that says basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost."

James Gunn's nepo baby brother Sean Gunn, who appears in every single Gunn movie like Clint Howard gets an easy paycheck in every Ron Howard movie, says that the movie is "about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not American."

Sold. I mean, you've sold me into the position of "No Sale.

Go fuck yourselves.

Sean Gunn on the new Superman movie: "It is about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not an American" pic.twitter.com/ugYiYqrphe
— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) July 8, 2025

Nerdrotic's review has spoilers, but he doesn't get into them until the 9 minute mark.

He calls it "mid."

Here's some more Hollywood trash. Proud adopted mother of two children who somehow both turned out trans, Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands.

�I did just recently f*** a 26 year old and it was really f***ing amazing.�- Charlize Theron
pic.twitter.com/LgNTr3vJFS
— cinesthetic. (@TheCinesthetic) July 3, 2025

What have you watched recently that you would recommend?

Here's one I recommend, advisedly. I saw Dan from The Cobwebs Channel recommending the Japanese zombie movie One Cut of the Dead. He gave the quick pitch -- a low-budget film crew is attempting to make a cheap, crappy zombie movie, and are attempting to film it in one single take, when an actual zombie horde attacks the movie production -- and then said he can't say anything more about it.

So there's some kind of secret twist you're not supposed to talk about. That interested me.

I wouldn't watch the trailer. It gives too much away. It just shows you the twist.

Just go in with as little information as possible.

I have to offer an advisory on this one. For the first half hour, I thought this was the most inept movie I've seen in a long time. (I later found out the actual budget for the movie was $25,000.) I only stayed with it because I wanted to get to the big twist that supposedly justifies this sloppy, boring, clumsy movie.

I'm glad I stayed with it. The second half hour offers some background information about the zombie attack shown in the first half hour, re-contextualizing it. The third half hour then revisits the zombie attack, with this re-contextualization completely changing what you saw before.

By the end I really, really liked the movie. The last half our pays off everything set up in the first hour. All the "mistakes" that bothered me in the first half hour actually turn out to be justified.

I immediately rewatched the whole movie and enjoyed it again. Then I bought the French remake and watched that. The French remake, Coupez! ("Cut!"), is by the same director who did the OSS 117 movies and stars his wife, who played the female lead in the first OSS movie. The budget is higher (but it's still not a big budget movie).

Even though the French version may sound like it would be better than the cheaper original, it's not. The Japanese original is just better in almost every way. I think the French version goes a little too over the top and lacks the relative subtlety of the Japanese version. (Which is kind of surprising.) I think the French director didn't like how slow and clumsy the Japanese version was in the early going, and tried to correct that by adding more punch. But it didn't work for me. The awkward, clumsy opening of the Japanese movie turned out to be the right way to do it.

It's too bad, because the French Coupez! can be bought on Amazon for like five bucks while it costs five bucks just to rent One Cut of the Dead. It was produced by Shudder so it might be available on that streaming channel for no cost (assuming you subscribe or sign up for a teaser trial, which of course you'll forget to cancel).

I liked -- almost loved -- this movie, but be prepared to feel like I did during my first watch, thinking this is the worst movie you've ever seen and that I must be a moron for saying otherwise. Hold off judgment until the third act.

In terms of gore or objectionable material: There's really not a lot of gore, or, there's not any gore that's convincing. It all looks half-baked and on-the-cheap. I don't recall much in the movie that would bother any viewer.

Update:

It looks like you can watch "One Cut of the Dead" for free on Hoopla.
Posted by: bleakdaze

Oh, I never even heard of "Hoopla." If you have Hoopla, give it a try.

Anything you guys can recommend?

Posted by: Ace at 04:15 PM

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 04:16 PM (GYt5+)

2 FIRST WITH THE BLADE

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:16 PM (iFTx/)

3 2nd

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (GYt5+)

4 I watched True Detective 2 - its about the CA High Speed Rail Grift. Also taps a little bit into "sex workers" and our elites...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (t0Rmr)

5 >>>I mean, Superman is the story of America," Gunn told reporters at The Times of London. "An immigrant that came from other places and populated the country. But for me it is mostly a story that says basic human kindness is a value and is something we have lost."

Oh, I see. I never looked at it that way...

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (uCjyK)

6 Your blade is a bit dull, it would seem.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (GYt5+)

7 Willowed but Ace, did you know Wet Leg has a new album out ?

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (cduTK)

8 I'll see it.

On Max. In a few months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (GBKbO)

9 prometheus

Posted by: Luigi'sIndexFinger at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (cHe/e)

10 It's how I saw The Flash.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

11 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK)

12 >>>7 Willowed but Ace, did you know Wet Leg has a new album out ?

yeah.... I don't like how the lead singer is deliberately making herself ugly. She has defeated my Male Gaze and I can't bear to look at her now.

I listened to one song. It was meh. I might listen to the whole album if she stops uglifying herself.

btw Pulp just released its first album in like 25 years.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (KRtlO)

13 11 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK)

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The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

14 He and His Brother Both Say the Movie Is About [b[How Vital Immigrants Are to Our Country

I love how everyone on the left ignores the word "illegal".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (8v2yu)

15 I’ll keep my $12 Senor Gunn.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (ImXfC)

16 "Sean Gunn on the new Superman movie: 'It is about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not an American'"

I continue to believe they've seen something that's got them spooked on the potential box office, and this is battlespace prep to try to pre-spin an underperforming result. It seems beyond insane that yet another studio with yet another hugely expensive tentpole movie would allow some slapdick shitmonger to shit on half the movie's potential audience.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)

17
OUT: Hollywood
IN: Hollywoodn't

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (wtvvX)

18 Ooo...movie thing.

Stellan Skarsgaard has caused some waves because he said that Ingmar Bergman was a literal Nazi who cried the day that Hitler died.

I thought this was old news, pretty sure I'd read it somewhere that Bergman had been at least Hitler curious during WWII, but I guess people hadn't read that factoid before.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

19 Charlize Theron should be locked up in a mental institution.
I feel so sorry for her adopted children.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

20 I've recently been bingeing Vinland Saga and Frieren on Netflix. They're both wildly different shows, but I give both a hearty thumbs up.

Posted by: Truculent Unicorn at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (14i9S)

21 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Quick! Everyone into the Idiot Squisher!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (8v2yu)

22 The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

Worth checking out? I'm more of a documentary person than a movie movie person.

The subject matter seems light enough.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)

23 I've recently been bingeing Vinland Saga and Frieren on Netflix. They're both wildly different shows, but I give both a hearty thumbs up.

I've got a non-anime fan in my circle that watched Frieren and liked it

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (t0Rmr)

24 The commies are going to be very surprised and upset if ALL immigration is stopped for several decades. I used to think this was totally impossible, even for a few years; not I'm not so sure.

The 'fringe' seems to have recently become "we're going to send some of the Hart-Cellar crowd back".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (ULPxl)

25 22 The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

Worth checking out? I'm more of a documentary person than a movie movie person.

The subject matter seems light enough.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)

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It's a breezy 55 minutes.

Entertained me, Dolley, and Junior all at once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

26 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'

How gay.
Like the new Superman.
He'll leave your ass a smoking hole.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (/lPRQ)

27 >>> I listened to one song. It was meh. I might listen to the whole album if she stops uglifying herself.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (KRtlO)

It doesn't have any of the unique catchy hooks as the first. More chick angst and exposition. Less fun. That's my low effort review.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (cduTK)

28 Yeah, I'm going to go see Superman.

From the trailers it looks like they threw Superman The Movie and Smallville into a blender and added a dash of Guardians of The Galaxy.

I'm also going to go see Fantastic Four because that was one of my favorite comics growing up and just by random chance, they have to get one of these films right sometime.

Other than that, the only other films I want to see are Caught Stealing and the new PTA film starring DiCaprio.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (XV/Pl)

29 I'd rather continue digitizing my vinyl lps than watch recent movies.

But, I can advise for British TV fans, find the Forgotten British Television channel. Lots of 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's British TV series.

Currently about to finish watching the Bulman Trilogy. Palfrey of Westminster, Warship, Squadron, and other forgotten series are also on it and many of them have been enhanced by modern digital techniques to overcome old smeared looking video of the originals. Those shot in 16mm film look even better.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)

30 F1 was pretty good, though obviously unrealistic (the most of which being an American actually making it onto the grid).

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (UnA8+)

31 Superman was not an “immigrant”. He was a baby when he “immigrated” and grew up as an American, with American parents, going to American schools and embracing American culture.

Compare that to their immigrant heroes, MS-13 child traffickers.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ImXfC)

32 Finally finished Peaky Blinders. Good, but still it's glorifying mob shit.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (mlg/3)

33 "The human way" demonstrates that they know nothing about either America or humans.

The human way is shitty and barbaric. That's why we need the way of America. That's why we need superheroes. It's the damn villains who fight for the Human Way.

Idiots.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (BjH5D)

34 The last movie I watched … like a new movie I hadn’t seen before … was CODA, which was good but I’m not sure I’d recommend it to this crowd.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (jYRYu)

35 Quick! Everyone into the Idiot Squisher!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (8v2yu)

The most darkly amusing part of the whole situation (I've read a lot on the subject beyond just watching the documentary), is how cocky Stockton Rush (the now-squished CEO) was about everything.

Guy missed his calling as a politician.

"Hey, Stockton, I think this thing is going to implode" "I don't need that negativity around here, you're fired!"

He was like a cartoon villain.

During the investigation, multiple of the engineers (who defended the project) were asked by the NTSB if they would have gone on that sub, and all of them when pressed were like "well, you know... I mean... ehh, no."

In many ways, it's the story of America.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (uCjyK)

36 14 He and His Brother Both Say the Movie Is About [b[How Vital Immigrants Are to Our Country

I love how everyone on the left ignores the word "illegal".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (8v2yu)

***

This.
I've no problem welcoming new Americans and those foreigners who are here legally. If not legal, get the fu*k out!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (W/lyH)

37 28 Yeah, I'm going to go see Superman.

From the trailers it looks like they threw Superman The Movie and Smallville into a blender and added a dash of Guardians of The Galaxy.

I'm also going to go see Fantastic Four because that was one of my favorite comics growing up and just by random chance, they have to get one of these films right sometime.

Other than that, the only other films I want to see are Caught Stealing and the new PTA film starring DiCaprio.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (XV/Pl)

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The thing about Gunn is that he's...undisciplined as a writer and goes big all the time.

He's very hit or miss, especially when it comes to his efforts at ensemble pictures, which are most of his efforts over the past 20 years.

He loves his characters and wants to give them all time to shine, but he has this weird blindspot about actually...putting them in a story that combines all of these characters well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

38 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (cBvpj)

39 "Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands."

Theron is 49. A 49-and-26 paring doesn't even bat eyes.

She's talking as if she's 85 and still lethal with the young lions.

Or is she talking about fucking a woman?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (iFTx/)

40 James Gunn doesn’t do anything to support immigrants. All he does is tell other people to support immigrants.

Typical leftist, nothing but talk. They think telling other people what to do is all that is necessary.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (0kwZe)

41 Because Superman has feelings now having been sucked into Leftism

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (+qU29)

42 >>>It doesn't have any of the unique catchy hooks as the first. More chick angst and exposition. Less fun. That's my low effort review.

too bad. I know the lead single "Catch These Fists" is just blah.

a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (KRtlO)

43 34 The last movie I watched … like a new movie I hadn’t seen before … was CODA, which was good but I’m not sure I’d recommend it to this crowd.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (jYRYu)

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It's a glorified Hallmark movie that Apple bought and then spent tens of millions of dollars convincing the Academy was the best movie of the year.

It's a triumph of the Oscar buying process.

It's...fine as a movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

44 Bought tix to Superman and now getting refunded. Wife and I are super bummed: got little kids and this was our first date night in a few months, and first movie night in a year. Everything else out seems to suck though...

Said it in a coupla posts the past week or so, but I really liked Saturday Night. Makes you real nostalgic for SNL before TDS totally broke it, or at least 20-30+ years ago SNL... I also saw Laroy, Texas on a United flight last weekend. It was enjoyable. Campy, very Texas country, but fun and a good story. Steve Zahn was great in it. Think Bernie, which I liked; not as NC-17 as Killer Joe but that kinda Texas flick; Small Town Crime (which I also liked) is similar, though this one's Texas and that was non-descript small town Utah. They also had very Super Trooper-ish cops messing with Steve Zahn's PI character, which was fun. Wasn't great but compared to what's out, worth the watch

Posted by: bearski at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (Bhsk7)

45 Because Superman is Human.

?

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (Bi+MU)

46 Charlize Theron should be locked up in a mental institution.
I feel so sorry for her adopted children.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

How many African Stunt Children does she have? I am jealous!

Posted by: Amy Conehead Barrett, Collector Of Trophy Children at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (R/m4+)

47 I love how everyone on the left ignores the word "illegal".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM

NO HUMAN BEING IS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!

- Every lefty, everywhere

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (kgE5c)

48 The real Superman.

https://is.gd/JL8DHr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (L/fGl)

49 It's a breezy 55 minutes.

Entertained me, Dolley, and Junior all at once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)

Cool, I'll add that to the list then. Thanks for the recommendation.

It's hard for me to find things that both my girl and I will watch.

And I've had it up to ABOUT HERE with Love Island, so it'll be nice to find something else and get a break from that trash.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (uCjyK)

50 Well the next time a Mexican comes here because his entire country has blown up, we should let him in.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (0kwZe)

51 "about how we support immigrants and if you don't like it, you're not American."
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Dishonesty. We all know you are talking about illegal aliens and unfettered invasion of the country while trying to guilt people into accepting it.
Regular Tokyo Rose.

If the alien invasion is a national emergency then the gun should be treated for treason.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (/lPRQ)

52 Whatever Happened To The Man of Tomorrow?
James Gunn's latest Superman movie is a travesty of misunderstanding
https://shorturl.at/SPvHT
Ben Domenech (substack), from Instapundit

"This movie absolutely, totally sucks. The CGI sucks. The writing sucks. The cast, which is for the most part much higher quality than the material, sucks."

I don't think he likes it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (ULPxl)

53 38 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (cBvpj)

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It's like when people use Paddington as an example of how great immigration is.

Yeah, if all immigrants loved their new countries and their customs and language more than the places that they came from and wanted to be prototypically British/American rather than Peruvian/Kryptonian, people would love immigrants a whole lot more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

54 So it's an anti Trump move. It should be a smash at the box office then.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (e5NfL)

55 It seems beyond insane that yet another studio with yet another hugely expensive tentpole movie would allow some slapdick shitmonger to shit on half the movie's potential audience.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)
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You'd like to think that's the case. But these people are so insulated in their Hollywood bubble, they cannot comprehend anyone might think differently than they do.

Therefore, if you don't bow down to their genius, YOU are the problem. Not them. Never them. The ideology is perfect.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (7fElN)

56 >>a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.

Did you catch the TinyDesk Concert of Wet leg, Ace?

I think it posted yesterday to youtube.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (Bi+MU)

57 But Superman isn't human.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (j6Ika)

58 38 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (cBvpj)

Diversity of super powers is our strength.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (uCjyK)

59 From the bits I've seen f the new Supe it just looks ugly.

The color and lighting and all that. It just looks awful.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (fV+MH)

60 The one on the poop cruise (The Carnival Triumph) was amusing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (GBKbO)

Worth checking out? I'm more of a documentary person than a movie movie person.

The subject matter seems light enough.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (uCjyK)

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It's a breezy 55 minutes.

Entertained me, Dolley, and Junior all at once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (GBKbO)
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It's also interesting in that it was CNN that created an international story out of basically nothing

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (iFTx/)

61 Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (NpAcC)

She was a model at age 16 in Italy. I think Charlize was involved with warped people and this has had a terrible outcome. I can't imagine wanting to pick up men young enough to be the age of my son even if I were single and looked like Theron.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (2GCMq)

62 "The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

He should be sent to the gulag for speaking nonsense.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (8LN1t)

63 Yeah, we NEVER supported immigrants. They had to support themselves. So only hard-working types made it here.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (w6EFb)

64 60 It's also interesting in that it was CNN that created an international story out of basically nothing
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (iFTx/)

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The most interesting part of that angle was that CNN ignored it until someone told them it was a story.

"Oh, Carnival says that one of their ships is broken in the middle of the gulf. Whatever."

several days pass

"Oh, the passengers got internet and described poop?! We're on it!"

Lazy as shit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)

65 Well, if illegal immigrants were like superman, I suspect we'd all like them better. But the principal superpowers of ours are drunk driving, raping and murdering young white women, and eating cats, which just seems less super.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM

You left out two of their super powers, driving without a license and insurance.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (e5NfL)

66 I'm willing to go with Sean Gunn's terms.

If you don't think American is by blood and very long tenure, then you're not American are you Mr. Lefty, and you need to be deported for UnAmerican Think.

It is sad to do, but once we export all the Lefties to China to make our Nike shoes, we'll be a foot ahead.

Posted by: Eric2 at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (q7Vou)

67 Pretending to be 10 years old and into this comic book nonsense, I'll make a valid point.

General Zod was an immigrant, too. And, he was an asshole.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (dIske)

68 A review that got quoted on Insty yesterday said the Superman movie plays like a goofy sitcom (not a *good* goofy sitcom, mind you) and it's not actually making the points Gunn claims it is. Also that it has Nathan Fillion from Firefly/Serenity as Green Lantern, with a goofy bowl cut. I might catch it when it's on streaming.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (2ocoG)

69 67 Pretending to be 10 years old and into this comic book nonsense, I'll make a valid point.

General Zod was an immigrant, too. And, he was an asshole.
Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (dIske)

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He wouldn't have tried to terraform Earth if America had open borders.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (GBKbO)

70 A lot of the Hollywood women have adopted kids who turned out trans. The odds of Theron, Nixon, etc all having children turn out that way are astronomical. Oh, wait, the mothers are raging attention whores so those kids were doomed the second the ink was dry on the adoption papers

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (JtH6i)

71 >>"The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

Reverse Cowgirl.

No other Species does Reverse Cowgirl.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (Bi+MU)

72 The First Lady wears Chuck Taylors to Texas

https://tinyurl.com/3yyrurt8

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (AOsQT)

73 "Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands."

Theron is 49. A 49-and-26 paring doesn't even bat eyes.

Heh.
I'm more than twice 26. I'll bang her twice and she will forget about doing rookies.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH)

74 Yeah, if all immigrants loved their new countries and their customs and language more than the places that they came from and wanted to be prototypically British/American rather than Peruvian/Kryptonian, people would love immigrants a whole lot more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

That's my working theory on why people let this immigration situation get so out of control.

Mexicans are typically super nice people with a similar culture to ours who typically like us and want to be a part of the US and can and do assimilate. Even the Mexicans in Mexico are like that. Super friendly, proud of their culture, but view themselves as part of the a larger "North American" culture.

Our newest New Americans (from Muslim countries, India and Asia) -- not so much.

But uh, we still have way too many amigos in this country, so unfortunately many will have to leave.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (uCjyK)

75 As opposed to dog-style. Except for the sniffing. That’s the same

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (jgmnb)

76 >>>Did you catch the TinyDesk Concert of Wet leg, Ace?

no i didn't. I'll look for it. Is she in Full Ugly Mode?

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

77 Caught a J-Horror movie the other day: Best Wishes To All. Not bad. Hard to describe without spoiling though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (cBvpj)

78 Currently about to finish watching the Bulman Trilogy. Palfrey of Westminster, Warship, Squadron, and other forgotten series are also on it and many of them have been enhanced by modern digital techniques to overcome old smeared looking video of the originals. Those shot in 16mm film look even better.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (ctrM5)

I've never seen Warship, but I recently watched The Sandbaggers on Tubi which is made by the guy who did Warship. I really liked it.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (CNl8/)

79 Not really a movie, I guess, but I did enjoy the Netflix documentary on the OceanGate sub that imploded.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

The Wifey and I saw that and liked it. There's another one on HBO Max (I think) we saw recently. Apparently Josh Gates of Discovery Channel's 'Expedition Unknown' interviewed Stockton Rush for his show and thought the guy was full of shit and was going to get people killed so he refused to let Discovery air the episode.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (M0V4/)

80 Man on man is this "weak men create bad times" in action.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (8LN1t)

81 I dunno what the big deal is. she fucked a 26 year old. She’s an adult he’s an adult. Whatevs. Cougars fucking young dudes isn’t something revolutionary.

Who knows if it even happened?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (ImXfC)

82 "The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

He should be sent to the gulag for speaking nonsense.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (8LN1t)
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"Humans are bastard-coated bastards with bastard filling." -- Dr. Bob Kelso and Dr. Perry Cox / Scrubs

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (7fElN)

83
Documentaries about hubristic and narcissistic fails are getting popular and they're scattered around the internet.

Scamanda (super-religious woman who faked having horrible cancer for fun and profit)

Anatomy of Lies (Hollywood writer of Grey's Anatomy is aNOTHER woman who faked having horrible cancer for fun and profit!)

One about an Aussie girl who faked having horrible cancer for fun and profit

going back a way there's Bad Surgeon (guy who installs bad medical devices and the female journalist who falls for him)

Two documentaries on a cult called Twin Flames

They're actually getting a bit excessive. There's a lot more of them I don't bother clicking on.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (UmB+t)

84 >>no i didn't. I'll look for it. Is she in Full Ugly Mode?

Didn't watch...but in the thumbnail she's wearing her panties on the outside of her shorts and they say 'WET' on them.
So...maybe no?

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (Bi+MU)

85
Legal immigrants hate illegal ones. Just hate them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (HZi96)

86 She's talking as if she's 85 and still lethal with the young lions.

Or is she talking about fucking a woman?
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (iFTx/)

What's the best thing about fucking twenty six year olds?

....

There's twenty of 'em!

Posted by: Charlize Theron at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (BjH5D)

87 It's also interesting in that it was CNN that created an international story out of basically nothing
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:28 PM (iFTx/)

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The most interesting part of that angle was that CNN ignored it until someone told them it was a story.

"Oh, Carnival says that one of their ships is broken in the middle of the gulf. Whatever."

several days pass

"Oh, the passengers got internet and described poop?! We're on it!"

Lazy as shit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Yup, and almost certainly over-hyped. There were probably 1,500 rooms on that ship, and the most they could get was maybe a few dozen pics of overflowing waste. And maybe 10 people to talk about it -- some of whom had ulterior motives.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (iFTx/)

88 I liked Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Don't know if I have seen anything else he's done. He is quite an ahole however

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (JtH6i)

89 Truth, Justice, and the Human ~~Way~~ Fund!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (L/fGl)

90 Why can't these people get "the human way" in their own fucking counties? Are they run by donkeys south of the border?

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (8LN1t)

91 87 Yup, and almost certainly over-hyped. There were probably 1,500 rooms on that ship, and the most they could get was maybe a few dozen pics of overflowing waste. And maybe 10 people to talk about it -- some of whom had ulterior motives.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (iFTx/)

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It was probably pretty miserable.

But...poop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

92 I rewatched both Dune 2 and The King's Speech. Both are excellent, but in different ways.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (Riz8t)

93 76 >>>Did you catch the TinyDesk Concert of Wet leg, Ace?

no i didn't. I'll look for it. Is she in Full Ugly Mode?
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (KRtlO)

Wet Leg at NPR? Oy gevalt.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (PiwSw)

94 >>"The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

Typical leftist pablum bullshit. Sounds oh so cool, but humanism is an ugly pathway to follow.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (W/lyH)

95 It's...fine as a movie.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, I haven’t cared about a movie’s Oscar-worthiness in 20 years, but I am glad I didn’t see this one in the theater.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (jYRYu)

96 Ooo...movie thing.

Stellan Skarsgaard has caused some waves because he said that Ingmar Bergman was a literal Nazi who cried the day that Hitler died.

I thought this was old news, pretty sure I'd read it somewhere that Bergman had been at least Hitler curious during WWII, but I guess people hadn't read that factoid before.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (GBKbO)

Hardly a shocker. Probably 90 percent of Germans were in that camp. Lots of revisionism since.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (8avO+)

97
Charlize Theron brags that she's now picking up 26-year-olds for one night stands.

__________

Didn't she return to SA? "When you've had black, you won't go back."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (HZi96)

98 The Wifey and I saw that and liked it. There's another one on HBO Max (I think) we saw recently. Apparently Josh Gates of Discovery Channel's 'Expedition Unknown' interviewed Stockton Rush for his show and thought the guy was full of shit and was going to get people killed so he refused to let Discovery air the episode.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 04:31 PM (M0V4/)

Yeah, I may watch that one as well.

And yeah, Stockton Rush was clearly full of shit, and I think that was obvious to everyone who wasn't reliant on him for a paycheck, and apparently for the small group of people who went on his sub.

I still don't really understand what his end goal was. He claimed he was going to be the Elon Musk of submersibles, but where is the business plan there? How many people want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to go in a sketchy tiny craft deep underwater? Is there really a huge market for that? How was he ever going to make any money?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (uCjyK)

99 They do have unambiguously sexual lyrics in this album, where the first album was more innuendo. She's pretty much f'ing her pillow in one song. The innuendo probably worked better the first time but then I'm a genX prude or something.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (cduTK)

100 The Theron story is paradigm instance of the weird sexual double standards that exist. She's 49 and bragging about banging some guy in his 20s. When DiCaprio, 50, bangs chicks in their 20s, it's covered like statutory rape.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (cBvpj)

101 No sleep for me = too many typos. I was awake at 3:00AM this morning for no reason at all.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (8LN1t)

102 I saw Superman in an advance screening Tuesday night. I am aware of the comments Gunn and others have made regarding the film, but the actual movie presents a very different view of “immigration” than is being reflected in the online arguments about the movie. Yes, Superman is the survivor of a catastrophe and a refugee who was adopted by the Kents as an infant. This has always been his story. The movie goes to great links to show how much he has assimilated to our nation and world, even going so far to suggest that where he came from maybe wasn’t that such of a great place to begin with. Superman tangentially is about immigration, but it is the broader idea of immigration that is at the heart of this country. The politics of the film are presented in such a way that whatever your political views are, you could graft them onto the movie. In other words, they matter very little to the story. There are no cheap shots against conservatives, no girlboss moments, and a general message of being kind and looking for the best in others. The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

103 Human way - get over on anyone and anything you can if you think you can't get caught or pay a penalty.

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (+qU29)

104 Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH

I think the point is-and you know this- to prove how hot she is by having sex with a much younger man - not some guy who's older than she is. 😉

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (2GCMq)

105 96 Hardly a shocker. Probably 90 percent of Germans were in that camp. Lots of revisionism since.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:34 PM (8avO+)

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Bergman was Swedish.

I think there was a healthy Nazi-curious segment of the Swedish population.

Not really news.

But, the film world is heavily leftist and there are definitely going to be some people who are looking for an excuse to destroy a dead white man from the cinematic canon.

Should be fun to watch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (GBKbO)

106 >>"The Human Way"

A way...for Humans.

Posted by: George Costanza at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (Bi+MU)

107 It was probably pretty miserable.

But...poop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

the Ocean is right there.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (8avO+)

108 >>> liked Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Don't know if I have seen anything else he's done

His 'The Suicide Squad' movie is very good. Not the first movie, which was just "Suicide Squad" (no "the"). Definitely worth a rental

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

109 Marxists ruin everything!

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (g47mK)

110 I've never seen Warship, but I recently watched The Sandbaggers on Tubi which is made by the guy who did Warship. I really liked it.
Posted by: Mark1971
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Warship is an earlier series by Ian MacIntosh. He won a knighthood from it. I should have said that these are free streaming channels on Youtube above. But Ian himself was a naval officer for a long while and supposedly he was on the Naval Intel side for at least part of that time.

Squadron was a less successful RAF version of Warship but that show had no connection to MacIntosh.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (ctrM5)

111 >>>a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.

hey man not cool

Posted by: Steel Panther at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (jGJov)

112 "Hey, Stockton, I think this thing is going to implode" "I don't need that negativity around here, you're fired!"

Typical executive behavior.

Posted by: Don't bring me no bad news at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (TbWk/)

113 107 It was probably pretty miserable.

But...poop.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:33 PM (GBKbO)

the Ocean is right there.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (8avO+)

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They do cover that.

The solution was not to have people hang their asses over the railings and potentially fall off, but to poop into red bags.

It is treated like a deeply demeaning thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (GBKbO)

114 Yeah, I may watch that one as well.

You should. It and the Netflix one are very complimentary, each adding details the other lacks. If you liked the one, you'll like the other too.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (cBvpj)

115
I think there was a healthy Nazi-curious segment of the Swedish population.

________

Like the King of Sweden.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (HZi96)

116 108 His 'The Suicide Squad' movie is very good. Not the first movie, which was just "Suicide Squad" (no "the"). Definitely worth a rental
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

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Gunn's Suicide Squad has underwhelmed me both times I've tried it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

117 Charlie Theremin sounds like an abuse victim.

I think she probably got too much of "the human way" as a child.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (8LN1t)

118 Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (W/lyH

I think the point is-and you know this- to prove how hot she is by having sex with a much younger man - not some guy who's older than she is. 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (2GCMq)

Show's how little she knows about men. Having sex isn't the prize. Getting married is.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (8avO+)

119 BTW “Truth, Justice, and the Human Way” is not a phrase used in the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (0ZQDV)

120 I think the point is-and you know this- to prove how hot she is by having sex with a much younger man - not some guy who's older than she is. 😉
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (2GCMq)

Not to be indelicate, but one does NOT have to be "hot" to have sex with younger men.

Especially when it's approaching closing time at the local bar. The horrors I've seen!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (uCjyK)

121 It looks like you can watch "One Cut of the Dead" for free on Hoopla.

Posted by: bleakdaze at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (jEhUm)

122 Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

Thanks for presenting an alternative point of view .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (2GCMq)

123 121 It looks like you can watch "One Cut of the Dead" for free on Hoopla.
Posted by: bleakdaze at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (jEhUm)

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That's a fun one. Recommend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (GBKbO)

124 Twenty six-year-olds, you say?

Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (L/fGl)

125 I'm too old to care about comic book heroes. But I care about the BBB codifying the $32k standard deduction and adding a new $12k deduction for seniors.

Why? Because we can now start converting our IRAs to Roth's to the tune of $30k+ per year while staying in the 11% bracket. This means we have 4 years to convert IRA dollars before Uncle Sam starts with RMDs to tax our life's savings at a higher rate.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (wBaIH)

126 Superman IV: Quest for Peace was a cautionary tale.

Not a movie blueprint.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (O7pnU)

127 If you are looking for fun documentaries, MAX has a good documentary on Anarcopulco - this kind of anarchist community and convention in Acapulco.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (cBvpj)

128 "The Human Way" -- what the fuck does that even mean?

He should be sent to the gulag for speaking nonsense.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus)
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"The Human Fund" - George Costanza

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (UjdFS)

129 126 Superman IV: Quest for Peace was a cautionary tale.

Not a movie blueprint.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (O7pnU)

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"We're gonna print money with this IP!"
-Cannon Group

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (GBKbO)

130 Typical executive behavior.
Posted by: Don't bring me no bad news at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (TbWk/)

I've worked for people like that, but never to that extent. And never with people's actual lives on the line.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (uCjyK)

131 It’s too bad about Superman. I was genuinely looking forward to it. And I’m not a comic book movie guy but Superman is the exception. Trailers looked woke free.

Oh well.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (ImXfC)

132 Anything you guys can recommend?

watch old movies/tv shows. I used to watch them for reasons of nostalgia (and laugh at the occasional bad acting from secondary actors) but, they seemed to have better ideas , back in the day, for reasons I just don't quite get. Give B movie series a chance like the Falcon, Boston Blackie, The Lone Wolf, Inner Sanctum, Charlie Chan...they won't cause nightmares or the feeling you need to shower afterwards...or watch something new, that's ...mid...

Posted by: zigggggy at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (K5Rdg)

133 88 I liked Gunn's Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Don't know if I have seen anything else he's done. He is quite an ahole however
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:32 PM (JtH6i)

Slither is a really fun horror comedy of his, with a great cast.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (jYRYu)

134 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (uCjyK)

Of course not, but I think that's her motivation. I've never been at a bar at closing time and if I went there to pick up guys I think the spouse would object.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (2GCMq)

135 @37

>>The thing about Gunn is that he's...undisciplined as a writer and goes big all the time.

The biggest criticism I've heard about this film is that there are too many instances where Gunn takes a serious moment and interrupts with comedy.

Well, anyone who has watched Superman The Movie would know that that had loads of serious moments interspersed with comedic bits.

I think I'm going to like this film.

As they say, we shall see.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (XV/Pl)

136 "The Human Way" sounds weird to me. It sounds like "The Human Stain". It doesn't bring good thoughts to mind.

Posted by: Dave at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (sbsMc)

137 It’s too bad about Superman. I was genuinely looking forward to it. And I’m not a comic book movie guy but Superman is the exception. Trailers looked woke free.

Oh well.

I think it's probably impossible to get me to watch another SH movie. It's done, done, done as a genre.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (Riz8t)

138 The movie *is* woke free—even if the people making it have been pushing that angle in discussions about it.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (0ZQDV)

139 There are no cheap shots against conservatives, no girlboss moments, and a general message of being kind and looking for the best in others. The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

There's also a thing where directors make a movie that the audience interprets in their own way and can't be shaken. The first Joker comes to mind, and the director sabotaged the sequel just to try and spite the audience. Starship Troopers is another.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (8avO+)

140
I still don't really understand what his end goal was.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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Wasn't he going to make Titanic tourism cheap and accessible with that lo-cost lightweight carbon fiber hull?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (UmB+t)

141 It’s too bad about Superman. I was genuinely looking forward to it. And I’m not a comic book movie guy but Superman is the exception. Trailers looked woke free.

The general consensus among people who've seen it is that it *is* woke-free, but it's just not very good.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (2ocoG)

142 Of course not, but I think that's her motivation. I've never been at a bar at closing time and if I went there to pick up guys I think the spouse would object.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (2GCMq)

Could be. And yes, I would hope your spouse would not allow that!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (uCjyK)

143 135 The biggest criticism I've heard about this film is that there are too many instances where Gunn takes a serious moment and interrupts with comedy.

Well, anyone who has watched Superman The Movie would know that that had loads of serious moments interspersed with comedic bits.

I think I'm going to like this film.

As they say, we shall see.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (XV/Pl)

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I can like Gunn a lot. Guardians 3 is kind of special.

But I suspect my reaction (when I see it on Max in a few months) will be closer to my reaction to Suicide Squad:

"Why are all of these characters in this story that's not theirs?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (GBKbO)

144 125 I'm too old to care about comic book heroes. But I care about the BBB codifying the $32k standard deduction and adding a new $12k deduction for seniors.

Why? Because we can now start converting our IRAs to Roth's to the tune of $30k+ per year while staying in the 11% bracket. This means we have 4 years to convert IRA dollars before Uncle Sam starts with RMDs to tax our life's savings at a higher rate.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov
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I have been told by principled conservatarians that the BBB was a bad thing for everyone.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (ctrM5)

145 >>>138 The movie *is* woke free—even if the people making it have been pushing that angle in discussions about it.

I believe you but their comments have put me off it.

Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

146 >>>I think it's probably impossible to get me to watch another SH movie. It's done, done, done as a genre.

so what you're saying is you're ready for MCU Phase 14?

Posted by: Disney at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (jGJov)

147 Wasn't he going to make Titanic tourism cheap and accessible with that lo-cost lightweight carbon fiber hull?

Aren't there treaties in place that would prevent that?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (2ocoG)

148 >>> Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

The review I linked above includes a spoiler - it says one of the (female!) secondary "heroes" straight up murders one of the minor villains. A little skeevy to me since this seems to be a new trend.

Not arguing your general impression, but it doesn't encourage me to see the movie after the douchey comments by the Gunns, let alone the tidbit I mention.

I wonder if Elric's on to something:

>>> 16
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I continue to believe they've seen something that's got them spooked on the potential box office, and this is battlespace prep to try to pre-spin an underperforming result. It seems beyond insane that yet another studio with yet another hugely expensive tentpole movie would allow some slapdick shitmonger to shit on half the movie's potential audience.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (iFTx/)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (ULPxl)

149 @133 didn't know Gunn did Slither. That was pretty good

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (JtH6i)

150 145 Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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You wounded me, ace, by the way.

Very ouch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

151 Isn't there a quote about how Liberals love humanity, but hate people, but Conservatives love individual people, but don't like the public.

something like that . If there isn't a quote like that, there should be.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (8LN1t)

152 Posted by: zigggggy at July 11, 2025 04:39 PM (K5Rdg)

_________________________

William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (dIske)

153 So it turns out that the late great Jim Sunk New Dawn was a dear friend of Kim Du Toit's.
Kim wrote a blog post (including pictures) about the loss of his good friend who was even more than we knew him to be.
https://tinyurl.com/Jim-SND
Please spread this around as far and wide as you can here and elsewhere since it deserves as many eyeballs as we can give it and I don't want any of us who knew him from here to miss it.
He was quite a guy wasn't he???
Just broadcasting this as far and wide as I can

Posted by: MAxIE at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (p0Y4o)

154 116 108 His 'The Suicide Squad' movie is very good. Not the first movie, which was just "Suicide Squad" (no "the"). Definitely worth a rental
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (KRtlO)

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Gunn's Suicide Squad has underwhelmed me both times I've tried it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer

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I thought they were both good in ways and weird in ways. Idris Elba was cool as always. John Cena is annoying but otherwise liked the casts in both. I did like Jared Leto's Joker and Ben Affleck's Batman but c'est la vie...

Posted by: bearski at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (Bhsk7)

155 Clarkson's Farm 3 was good. Soon, I will get to 4.

Posted by: Accomack at July 11, 2025 04:43 PM (28cZF)

156 Wasn't he going to make Titanic tourism cheap and accessible with that lo-cost lightweight carbon fiber hull?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (UmB+t)

It was never going to be cheap, getting out to the Titanic's location with a ship big enough to move and recover the sub, the ships crew, an entire support staff for the sub, etc. is the prohibitively expensive part. You could do it with a smaller support ship using carbon fiber, since it was light in comparison to metal. But I doubt he was making any money even at $250,000 a head.

But his stated goal was to have subs diving all around the world, I think Titanic diving was mostly for marketing / advertising.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:43 PM (uCjyK)

157 Swedish National Socialism had a slim chance until they allowed a world invasion to join in

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 04:43 PM (+qU29)

158 I listen to Adam Carolla in the morning before work. The other day, I was pretty deep in a project and just left it running for background noise, and the Music app just popped in a "classic" episode from maybe 10 or 12 years ago.

Oddly enough, the guest was James Gunn. I don't watch Hollywood bullshit and know nothing about the guy, except that Ace doesn't like him. I listened to hear if Ace is wrong. He's not.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (BI5O2)

159 Afternoon, folken,

After a tough morning (more on that anon), I could use a nice movie-related thread. Thanks, Ace!

I am very disappointed in Charlize Theron. Not for picking up a 26-year-old; for talking about it in public, and in such gutter language. And the "I'm glad I don't have to run everything past some man." Is every H'wood celebrity infected with that attitude, or is it just every one who makes it into general media?

If the new Superman flick is Silver Age-styled, I'll give it a try. I loved the Christopher Reeve films, I and II anyway, for having just that sort of flavor. I don't mind the "human way" stuff because Superman, in the Silver Age comics I grew up on, was always shown to be a literal citizen of the world -- I recall being told in one story, or an editorial comment, that he had been given citizenship in every country on Earth. "Human Way" does not wipe out "American Way," not if the "human way" includes morals and kindness. If the film starts explicitly bashing America, though . . .

I remember Sean Gunn in a lot of Gilmore Girls episodes. I didn't know he was related to James Gunn.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (omVj0)

160 >>> 150 145 Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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You wounded me, ace, by the way.

Very ouch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (GBKbO)

What'd he do that was worse than say, calling you a glowie???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (ULPxl)

161 Sounds like it sucks. The human way includes Holodomor, the Holocaust and the Killing fields, so fuck that shit.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (/YboP)

162 160 What'd he do that was worse than say, calling you a glowie???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (ULPxl)

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He mentions me in the OBBB post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (GBKbO)

163 I thought the movie was good and warranted seeing it on a big screen. I’m a big fan of Superman though. I was adopted as an infant and my mother used the story of Superman to explain the concept of adoption to me, and I have had a fondness for the character ever since. I also hated the Snyderverse version of Superman so I have been looking forward to a more comic accurate version, and this movie delivered that for me.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (0ZQDV)

164 William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.
Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (dIske)

And the dog? What about the dog?

Posted by: Asta at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (PiwSw)

165 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:40 PM (uCjyK)

He'd be asleep, and I am up at 5:00 as is he Even I wanted to I could not stay up till 1:00 . Women do stupid stuff when it's really about their feeling lonely and wanting appreciation.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (2GCMq)

166 Does Lois Lane show us her tits?

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (v0R5T)

167 “I guess I just prayed too much”: Alabama couple welcomes triplets after 10 years of infertility 🙌

https://is.gd/9HopCX

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Maybe praying wasn't the only thing she was doing too much.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, A Walmart 6 at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (L/fGl)

168 I've no problem welcoming new Americans and those foreigners who are here legally. If not legal, get the fu*k out!
Posted by: Diogenes

The Democrats and their insistence that we can't kick out criminal foreigners even if they came in legally has convinced me that we can't let in foreigners, period.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (a+4eV)

169 William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.
Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025

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Nora Charles: "Just how many bars *have* you been thrown out of, Mr. Charles?"

Nick Charles: "That would be all of them, Mrs. Charles."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (omVj0)

170 I have been told by principled conservatarians that the BBB was a bad thing for everyone.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (ctrM5)

It’s bad for the country. But like all massive government boondoggle bills, there are some favored groups who come out nicely ahead, at the expense of everyone else.

Obamacare destroyed health insurance. But it was great for lots of people who got more welfare.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (ImXfC)

171 We're visiting my wife's grandfather and last night he told me he's watching Californication.

Which is a show that makes me believe that I could easily make a show.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (j/vBG)

172 160 >>> 150 145 Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (KRtlO)

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You wounded me, ace, by the way.

Very ouch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

What'd he do that was worse than say, calling you a glowie???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
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You cannot spell glowie without the owie!

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (ctrM5)

173 I thought the movie was good and warranted seeing it on a big screen. I’m a big fan of Superman though. I was adopted as an infant and my mother used the story of Superman to explain the concept of adoption to me, and I have had a fondness for the character ever since. I also hated the Snyderverse version of Superman so I have been looking forward to a more comic accurate version, and this movie delivered that for me.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025

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I'm glad to hear that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:46 PM (omVj0)

174 The Democrats and their insistence that we can't kick out criminal foreigners even if they came in legally has convinced me that we can't let in foreigners, period.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (a+4eV)

Look how democrats, even Schumer, support Khalil, who would kill him. No foreign students, just kick them out.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:47 PM (/YboP)

175 He'd be asleep, and I am up at 5:00 as is he Even I wanted to I could not stay up till 1:00 . Women do stupid stuff when it's really about their feeling lonely and wanting appreciation.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:45 PM (2GCMq)

Bars are open until 4 am in these parts, so you could always just wake up a little early. (I kid, I kid)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:47 PM (uCjyK)

176 Sounds like it sucks. The human way includes Holodomor, the Holocaust and the Killing fields, so fuck that shit.
Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:44 PM (/YboP)

Those are examples of inhumanity. We just have to choose humanity to avoid them.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

177 One of the reasons for the inclusion of the other heroes in the movie is to draw a comparison between corporate sponsored heroes who care little for life or collateral damage, and Superman who doesn’t want to see anyone get hurt.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:49 PM (0ZQDV)

178
"The Human Way" sounds weird to me. It sounds like "The Human Stain". It doesn't bring good thoughts to mind.
Posted by: Dave

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Reminds me of "To Serve Man."

But if the movie is actually good, then chalk up another one for bad verbiage.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:49 PM (UmB+t)

179 Those are examples of inhumanity. We just have to choose humanity to avoid them.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

LOL, are you suggesting that they weren't perpetrated by humans? Ridiculous.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (/YboP)

180
I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (TUCTx)

181 Communists ruin everything.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (IifOV)

182 My morning looked to be rough, and yet I survived. As we prepared to take big black Stirling to the vet, the Buick refused to start. It gave me "Battery Saver Mode Activated," and displayed some Linux code (!) on the instrument panel.

AAA diagnosed it as "merely" a weakened battery, not a problem with alternator or voltage regulator, and got the car running. We canceled Stirling's appointment and drove a long ways to a Walmart, charging the battery. Everything has been fine. I'll buy a new one -- this one is 2.5 years old -- after I'm recovered from my surgery next week.

So, not a good start to my Friday. This news about the Superman film is heartening.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (omVj0)

183 Silver Lining is Superman is a straight white guy. Could have easily been a 1/2 Asian, 1/4 LatinX, 1/8 Black 1/8 Native American tranny.

So kudos to Gunn for that. 🤪

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (ImXfC)

184 John Nolte has an intriguing take on the new Superman movie: that's it's subversively conservative by sheer accident. (Sort of how Joss Whedon accidentally made a subversively conservative show with Firefly.)

Spoiler alert for one of the hugest plot twists, incoming...

*spoiler*

"...And this is where dumb-ass Gunn accidentally goes full MAGA...the movie ends up explicitly sending the following message: Superman is a good man for only one reason--he was raised by Normal People (Ma and Pa Kent) in middle America (a Kansas Farm) where he was ASSIMILATED into this good man using traditional values and Western values. Had he been influenced by the imported Kryptonian values of conquer and rule (which sound an awful lot like some of the unassimilated third world barbarians that have been allowed into America), the world would've been doomed. In other words, diversity is not our strength, says SUPERMAN. Instead, our strength comes from a unified culture tha believes in freedom and the importance of every human life.""

Wish Nolte's movie stuff wasn't all behind a stupid paywall. More people need to see his messages on the culture, instead of preaching only to the conservative choir.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (gWBY1)

185 So Superman is now a short brown gay person that thinks he should be entitled. Yeah, I'll pass.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (/U5Yz)

186 170 I guess my 50 years of productivity contributing to America makes me part of a "favored group." Sounds right.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (wBaIH)

187 Those are examples of inhumanity. We just have to choose humanity to avoid them.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:48 PM (8avO+)

LOL, are you suggesting that they weren't perpetrated by humans? Ridiculous.
Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (/YboP)

No. just tired of your word twisting.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)

188
First Richard Pryor ruining Superman, and now this.

Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025 04:52 PM (IifOV)

189 I think Fox News condemning the movie as woke because it highlights “immigration” actually hurts MAGA, because it paints a picture of rejecting immigrants in general, rather than being opposed to ILLEGAL immigration.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:52 PM (0ZQDV)

190 I'm having a hard time remembering the last movie I've seen. I mostly watch re-runs of Stargate SG-1 and the various Treks on Pluto.

Oh, wait, I remember now. It was that one about the guy who takes a job being experimented on, and he dies only to be cloned and go through the process again. Forget the title. Sounded like an interesting premise, but failed in the execution, I think.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (OGOaV)

191 Wish Nolte's movie stuff wasn't all behind a stupid paywall. More people need to see his messages on the culture, instead of preaching only to the conservative choir.
Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (gWBY1)

I though Coneheads was a similarly subversive movie.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (PiwSw)

192 Does Gunn know that General Zod is an immigrant too? Is it wrong to try to exile or imprison General Zod?

Posted by: Dave at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (sbsMc)

193 149 @133 didn't know Gunn did Slither. That was pretty good
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:41 PM (JtH6i)

I like Slither. But it's basically just Night of the Creeps.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (cBvpj)

194 180
I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 04:50 PM (TUCTx)

Ward got fired from his job for sexually harassing a secretary, Mrs. Cleaver is now the wise cracking, smart, bread winner while Ward sits around drinking beer and being stupid all day.

Wally is nonbinary and polyamorous and is dating an ethnically ambiguous guy.

Beaver is black. He was adopted.

And Eddie Haskell has changed his ways once he came out as trans and realized he was living a lie for all of those years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (uCjyK)

195 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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Uh...but Superman specifically is not human.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (XeU6L)

196 186 170 I guess my 50 years of productivity contributing to America makes me part of a "favored group." Sounds right.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (wBaIH)

Obeying the law, paying taxes and not collecting government welfare is rayyycist.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (ImXfC)

197 The "Midnight's Edge" guy on YouTube said that an obnoxious reporter was trolling, saying "so this is really about immigration right right right???" And James Gunn's brother bit on the bait, but Gunn himself just said something like "it's more about kindness".

I don't think this is going to be woke.

The Film Threat guys basically like it. They rated it, respectively, 6.5 and 7.5 out of 10. They also predicted it will blow up huge among teen boys.

I like the idea that this is just jumping in to a universe full of superheroes and supervillains, not rehashing Superman's origin story again. But it is apparently a young Superman, starting out his career, finding his place. We know from the trailer that he loses a fight, badly wounded, at some point. If handled well this will be a good hook for a plot, and I have liked other James Gunn movies so I am trusting him to do it well.

I'm planning to see this in the theater. I haven't gone to a theater in years.

Posted by: mr_jack at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (eEDqM)

198 I agree with Nolte’s take: it is a conservative movie at its heart.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (0ZQDV)

199 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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Uh...but Superman specifically is not human.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (XeU6L)

He identifies as Human.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (8avO+)

200 THEY POOPED ON THE POOP DECK JUST LIKE THE J6 INSURRECTIONISTS POOPED ON THE SACRED TEMPLE OF DEMOCRACY!!!!@!2`1!

Posted by: Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (NHj0Y)

201 Ward got fired from his job for sexually harassing a secretary, Mrs. Cleaver is now the wise cracking, smart, bread winner while Ward sits around drinking beer and being stupid all day.

Wally is nonbinary and polyamorous and is dating an ethnically ambiguous guy.

Beaver is black. He was adopted.

And Eddie Haskell has changed his ways once he came out as trans and realized he was living a lie for all of those years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (uCjyK)

Whoa whoa slow down, we’re taking notes.
- Paramount Execs

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (ImXfC)

202 "The Human Way," lol.

I suppose it's appropriate. After all, our media is trying to return us to the way things were before America and other Republics corrected them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (BI5O2)

203 Charlize has a potty mouth.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (v0R5T)

204 I watched the new Superman last night and I honestly enjoyed it. I don't recall ANY slogan making an appearance--not "Truth, Justice, and The American Way" and not some bastardization of it either.

No spoilers, I promise--but Superman seems to spend some time reflecting on his purpose, and what doing "right" is, but I didn't catch any overt messaging. Even the plot points that dealt with "technology country vs not-a-technology country" didn't purport to teach us anything that decent people wouldn't have already known. I enjoyed it, and I'm most assuredly to the right of most of "our" elected Republicans politically.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (TN0g+)

205 The movie goes to great links to show how much he has assimilated to our nation and world, even going so far to suggest that where he came from maybe wasn’t that such of a great place to begin with. Superman tangentially is about immigration, but it is the broader idea of immigration that is at the heart of this country. The politics of the film are presented in such a way that whatever your political views are, you could graft them onto the movie. In other words, they matter very little to the story. There are no cheap shots against conservatives, no girlboss moments, and a general message of being kind and looking for the best in others. The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025

***
Even better!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (omVj0)

206
Jimmy Gunn has always been a degenerate cocksucker. Goes back to when he was writing Troma films (watch Tromeo and Juliet for example). While Slither is a fun scifi flick, he ruins it by putting in behind the scenes footage on the DVD where he's a total piece of shit. Funny guy, but a really awful human being.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (y9nCu)

207
his stated goal was to have subs diving all around the world, I think Titanic diving was mostly for marketing / advertising.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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Something about cheap submersibles. That patented hull that goes SNAP SNAP SNAP all through the dive.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (UmB+t)

208 Charlize was 15 when her mother (age 41) shot & killed her father (age 43), reportedly in self-defense.

The Pink News, Charlize Theron’s adopted daughters – Jackson and August – are officially living their best life
Nov 29 2024.

In part, "In 2019, Theron revealed that her eldest child XXXX, who was originally introduced to the world as a boy, was actually a girl."

Both kids are still young, were adopted from South Africa (where Theron was born) and are Black.

Another Madonna and also so many others. "For the children" but really for themselves.

Star power.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (NFX2v)

209 I’m sure it’ll make a ton of money. It’s not outright fuck you middle America only a subtle middle finger.. So Joe 6 pack will plunk down $12 and be OK with being told he’s only a little racist.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (ImXfC)

210 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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I never left the theatre during this movie, and I don't recall that line ever being uttered or appearing in print during the screening.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (TN0g+)

211 I saw the trailer for Superman.

The only thing that interests me is that it has Krypto the Superdog in it.

I don't think I've seen the dog in anything else.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (6ydKt)

212 The human way has been slavery much more often than not. The left is attempting to turn back to slavery and as such the USA is its biggest opponent. Islam and socialism-communism are their biggest allies.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (17s+e)

213
He identifies as Human.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Heh. Human curious. 'Say Lois, how about dinner tonight?'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (XeU6L)

214 “Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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I never left the theatre during this movie, and I don't recall that line ever being uttered or appearing in print during the screening.

….

That line does not appear in the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (0ZQDV)

215 "Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

216 Anything you guys can recommend?

The Wifey and I have just started a British series called 'Taskmaster', with episodes on YouTube. Five British comedians doing stupid events, but the fun thing is that the prizes they win at the end of the episode are a collection of possessions that the contestants themselves bring in. So they win their item back, plus the items brought by the other four.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (M0V4/)

217 The Charlize Theron story reminds me of that minor scene in Mario Puzzo’s The Godfather (the book) where random men in Hollywood could go to a theater (probably not pr0n since this was set in the early 50s), and sit in the dark and watch a movie while aged-out movie actresses would sneak in and give them blowjobs.

The idea was these women had built their careers on the casting couch, gotten addicted to being desirable, but were now too old for that and not marriageable, so this scene was the only way they could feed that addiction.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (jYRYu)

218 No. just tired of your word twisting.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:51 PM (8avO+)

Same to you. The human way is at best a mixed bag, and excluding the word American is telling me to steer clear. I hope it fails.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (/YboP)

219 Superman is a great character. They just only ever get him right since Donner in bits and pieces (like the airplane scene in superman returns.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (Yamow)

220 his stated goal was to have subs diving all around the world, I think Titanic diving was mostly for marketing / advertising.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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Something about cheap submersibles. That patented hull that goes SNAP SNAP SNAP all through the dive.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:56 PM (UmB+t)

We can already make cheap submersibles. They are at any port that has pretty sea life already. Below the line where the light fades out there's not much to see aside from wrecks. And drones do the job better than people do and risk no lives.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (8avO+)

221 'Truth, Justice, and the Human Way'
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Uh...but Superman specifically is not human.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 04:54 PM (XeU6L)

He identifies as Human.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025

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He grew up in a human culture, surrounded by humans, learned humans' moral codes and customs, and did not even meet another Kryptonian (I think) until he was into his adult years as a crimefighter. He lives as a human in his Clark Kent identity. He could hardly identify as any other species, even though he is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (omVj0)

222 Whoa whoa slow down, we’re taking notes.
- Paramount Execs
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:55 PM (ImXfC)

Oh, I have plenty more where that came from!

Let's talk the A-Team.

Instead of wrongly imprisoned Vietnam Vets, they're actually a group of women and trans activists who were wrongly accused of trying to kill an ICE agent, but escaped from jail with the help of "Howlin' Mad Murdaugh" who is actually a butch lesbian with a shaved head.

Mr. T is now Mx. T, and uses "xe / xim" pronouns, but keeps the name "Mister" to stick it to the patriarchy. Mr. T still drives a van, but this one is covered in a rainbow flag and has a stripper pole in the back in front of the cache of weapons.

Hannibal is now a trans woman who smokes joints instead of cigars, but she still "loves it when a plan comes together."

And Face is a barely closeted flamboyant gay man who -- well, I guess that character doesn't change much.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)

223 I’m sure it’ll make a ton of money. It’s not outright fuck you middle America only a subtle middle finger.. So Joe 6 pack will plunk down $12 and be OK with being told he’s only a little racist.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 04:57 PM (ImXfC)

Eh, it doesn't matter if the movie tells Joe 6 pack he's an all around good dude. The movie will still be shit, and he'll still plunk it down.

It's all slop in the trough.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (BI5O2)

224 Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... Human.

That was Kirk's highest praise for Spock.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (PiwSw)

225 **Kryptonian values of conquer and rule (which sound an awful lot like some of the unassimilated third world barbarians that have been allowed into America),**

The Kryptonians sound like Viltrumites. Is James Gunn cribbing from "Invincible?"

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (w0zR+)

226 I saw the trailer for Superman.

The only thing that interests me is that it has Krypto the Superdog in it.

I don't think I've seen the dog in anything else.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

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Really! That is a departure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (omVj0)

227 Polymarket has the movie at 57% to make $125M+ opening weekend.

And 41% to make $116-124M

How much does it need to be considered a success?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (ImXfC)

228 "The Human Way," lol.

I suppose it's appropriate. After all, our media is trying to return us to the way things were before America and other Republics corrected them.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Removed from 'State of Nature' only by evolved polite society.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (XeU6L)

229 Superman is a great character. They just only ever get him right since Donner in bits and pieces (like the airplane scene in superman returns.)

….

This is the first movie since Superman II in which they absolutely got the character right.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (0ZQDV)

230 Recommendations for movies ? Nothing made in the last10 years... Maybe 20...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (VE6XX)

231 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)

Boy George wouldn't be out of place in this version.

Posted by: Mark1971 at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (CNl8/)

232 215 "Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

It's on HBO Max now.
I was wondering if I should take a shot and watch it.

I'll have to check it out eventually.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (6ydKt)

233 Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most... Human.

That was Kirk's highest praise for Spock.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 11, 2025

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Good point. And yet Spock grew up among Vulcans -- though his human mother's influence would have been great.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (omVj0)

234 And Face is a barely closeted flamboyant gay man who -- well, I guess that character doesn't change much.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Ha!!

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (ImXfC)

235 Apparently the movie makes the case that Superman's real strength isn't his physical power but his simple goodness and moral strength

So, Superman's real strength is the friends he made on the way?

Posted by: Chuck C at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (D0HYP)

236 "I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like."

Mom and Dad are divorced and gay. The older brother is a heroin addict. Beaver is trans. And Lumpy was murdered by someone wearing a MAGA cap.

Posted by: Nemo at July 11, 2025 05:02 PM (4RPgu)

237 The Kryptonians sound like Viltrumites. Is James Gunn cribbing from "Invincible?"
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (w0zR+)

That is what I got when I heard about that bit.

I dislike invincible too.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 05:03 PM (Yamow)

238 Boy George wouldn't be out of place in this version.
Posted by: Mark1971 at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (CNl8/)

Right, instead of Boy George making an awkward and questionable guest appearance, he is actually like a "Charlie" in Charlie's Angels figure.

And Hulk Hogan is also in this remake, but he's now a Hollywood Hogan-type heel wearing a red hat and supporting fascists, and he gets tangled up with the Team and is the only person in the shows history to be killed by the A-Teams bullets, and everyone claps.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:03 PM (uCjyK)

239 WB has stated that they will consider it a success if it surpasses $500 million. The movie looks to do well domestically but international ticket sales are not doing as well. Analysts think it will probably end up making around $600-750 million.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:03 PM (0ZQDV)

240 I watched predestination recently. I’d never seen it kinda forgot it existed.

As Larry David would say, pretty pretty….pretty good.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (ImXfC)

241 He could hardly identify as any other species, even though he is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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This

Posted by: Tarzan at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (XeU6L)

242 And Lumpy was murdered by someone wearing a MAGA cap.
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I was going to guess Jardien's commercial....

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (TN0g+)

243

William Powell and Myrna Loy in the Thin Man series was always fun. Smart ass drunks are always fun.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:42 PM (dIske)

Oh absolutely! Amazingly, all 6(7?) are very good...they in fact made 3 other non-Thin Man films (Double Wedding, I love You Again and Love Crazy) and they are way better than they have any right to be...just a great on-screen couple...

Posted by: zigggggy at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (K5Rdg)

244 Enjoyed The Phoenician Scheme. Have to pay primo dough to rent or buy on Apple but it was worth it. Benicio del Toro is good at taking over Bill Murray’s lead role in Wes Anderson films. “Have a hand grenade.”

Posted by: Chunk at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (Ca3FO)

245 The movie itself is a love letter to the Superman of the Silver Age of comics, and if you enjoyed the trailers you will probably enjoy the movie.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 04:35 PM (0ZQDV)

I'm there at 7pm tonight.

Sorry, Ace - I'm supporting the non-woke version to Supes we finally got. A return to a moral center and a good hero. One kids can look up to and want to be.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (tOcjL)

246 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)

I'm sure somebody already pitched something similar to a studio in the past decade.

They did an A-Team movie awhile back and it sucked as I recall.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (6ydKt)

247 201 Ward got fired from his job for sexually harassing a secretary, Mrs. Cleaver is now the wise cracking, smart, bread winner while Ward sits around drinking beer and being stupid all day.

Wally is nonbinary and polyamorous and is dating an ethnically ambiguous guy.

Beaver is black. He was adopted.

And Eddie Haskell has changed his ways once he came out as trans and realized he was living a lie for all of those years.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:53 PM (uCjyK)
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The old comedy show SCTV had a sketch where Eddie Haskell was gay, and Beaver shot him. Ward was pouring whiskey into his breakfast cereal. I laughed.

Posted by: Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at July 11, 2025 05:04 PM (NHj0Y)

248 232 215 "Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

It's on HBO Max now.
I was wondering if I should take a shot and watch it.

I'll have to check it out eventually.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:01 PM (6ydKt)

I saw it too.

I don't think you'll regret watching it, if you like horror movies. It is never boring.

But it is hot mess overall. I can't really explain why without spoilers though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:05 PM (cBvpj)

249 The idea that the Jor-El possibly wanted Superman to rule the earth originates with the Smallville show.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:05 PM (0ZQDV)

250 Boy George wouldn't be out of place in this version.
Posted by: Mark1971
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Jimmy Olsen?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 05:06 PM (XeU6L)

251 Superman came out in the late 30's right ?I see no reason to take away his catch phrase... They should have just left it be...My 2 cents worth..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:06 PM (VE6XX)

252 I'm sorry but as an 80s kid, Superman will always be Christopher Reeves to me.

Everybody else cast in that role has just been second best.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:06 PM (6ydKt)

253 First Richard Pryor ruining Superman, and now this.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025

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That movie could have been fixed. If the Pryor character had been played by, say, Eddie Murphy (though he was not a star yet), and he was a smart techbro like the guy in Die Hard, Theo, who was breaking into the vault while the McClane stuff was going on . . . and if they had showed us the billionaire, Robert Vaughn, and his tech guy pulling in something really dangerous to Superman like a chunk of Red Kryptonite, then we could have had a good story.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (omVj0)

254 it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

It looks like fun. And besides, it's hard to beat good music AND vampires!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (L5An7)

255 Not a movie, but just finished the series The Good Place. I wasn't into it when I first watched a few episodes, but I stuck with it this time and it was surprisingly good.

Posted by: InZona at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (UFl4K)

256 Hoopla and Kanopy are accessed with a library card. I just got my first library card in 40 years to access these streaming services. Well worth it.

Posted by: ToddF at July 11, 2025 05:07 PM (3cbmu)

257 Thinking maybe I'll watch Flow for the fifth time this weekend.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (w0zR+)

258 I'm sorry but as an 80s kid, Superman will always be Christopher Reeves to me.

Everybody else cast in that role has just been second best.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

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Reeve amazed me. I'd grown up with George Reeves, and said "Nobody can top him." Then Chris, a real actor, proved me wrong and I was happy that he did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (omVj0)

259 I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex
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Starring Charlize Theron and a dozen 26 year old men.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (v0R5T)

260 Here's the thing.

If you watch low-budget trash all the time like me, you'll occasionally find a cool movie in the rough.

If you watch big Hollywood productions, you'll never see a cool movie. Ever. They're tapped out. No cool left.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (BI5O2)

261 257 Thinking maybe I'll watch Flow for the fifth time this weekend.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (w0zR+)

I didn't understand that movie

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (VE6XX)

262 Jimmy Olsen?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025

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We've yet to see a real Jimmy Olsen in any of the movies or TV shows. Jimmy was young, but he was smart and he often got himself out of trouble without calling on Superman. The films have generally portrayed him as a doofus.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (omVj0)

263 I don't think you'll regret watching it, if you like horror movies. It is never boring.

But it is hot mess overall. I can't really explain why without spoilers though.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:05 PM (cBvpj)

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I'm not into torture porn like Saw and whatnot.

But I don't mind some blood & gore occasionally if the plot is good.

Walking Dead or From Dusk Till Dawn level or so is fine.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (6ydKt)

264 And Face is a barely closeted flamboyant gay man who -- well, I guess that character doesn't change much.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:00 PM (uCjyK)
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Dirk Benedict got so sick of Hollywood that he quit and raised his family in Idaho.

The only time he broke his silence was to denounced NuBattlestar Galactica's Girl Starbuck. Seriously based. No homo.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (ZOv7s)

265 First Richard Pryor ruining Superman, and now this.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 11, 2025

I have to admit I really liked the Superman battling himself scene.

Posted by: InZona at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (UFl4K)

266
Hollywood has always hated Superman's motto. Bryan PedoSinger's Superman Returns had Perry White saying the line, with a change.

'Truth, Justice.... all that stuff!'

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (y9nCu)

267 >>> Another Madonna and also so many others. "For the children" but really for themselves.

The birth parents of the boy Madonna adopted from Africa were horrified to see what she had done to their son. But they signed an ironclad adoption contract so there's nothing they can do.

Charlize Theron named her African charity AFTER HERSELF. She was speaking at it when she made those comments on how much Jeff Bezos sucks, probably miffed she couldn't hit on a newly single Orlando Bloom. And now he's banned her from any of his future events.

She was on the Call Her Daddy podcast and basically denounced love. I kind of feel bad for her, in that she doesn't know what actual love IS. No one who actually has had real love denounces it! She also made Sean Penn give up all his guns when they were dating. I'm sure every guy has an ex that made him give up something they regret.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (gWBY1)

268 a lot of bands show off all of their tricks and ideas in their first album and don't have much left on the shelves for the second.
Posted by: ace at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (KRtlO)

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Boston at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (8hxDK)

269 Liberals Superhero is a gender confused, ass-pirating, carpet-munching, God-hating, Marxist philosophizing, dark or brown skinned, social justice/DEI warrior and illegal immigrant whose superpower is to shoot firecrackers out of xe’a ass at ICE Agents and hurl expletive, and nonsensical vomit at anyone who doesn’t agree with xe.

Oh, and it’s kryptonite is the truth.

Posted by: Marcus T at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (TlT1q)

270 Before Donner was fired, the original idea for Superman III would have had Luthor back instead of Robert Vaughn, and teamed Luthor with Brainiac who would have created Bizarro to battle Superman. You can see bare traces of this in the much inferior actual version.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (0ZQDV)

271 The "human way" is "might makes right!"

It will ever be thus.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (VsYDF)

272 Reeve amazed me. I'd grown up with George Reeves, and said "Nobody can top him." Then Chris, a real actor, proved me wrong and I was happy that he did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (omVj0)

I can understand that if you grew up watching the TV show.

I never saw an episode of it until it turned up on cable in the recent past.

I've still only seen a few episodes of the show, but George Reeves seemed pretty good in the role.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (6ydKt)

273 I'm not into torture porn like Saw and whatnot.

But I don't mind some blood & gore occasionally if the plot is good.

Walking Dead or From Dusk Till Dawn level or so is fine.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (6ydKt)

The violence level should not give you any problems.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (cBvpj)

274 He could hardly identify as any other species, even though he is.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
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This
Posted by: Tarzan at July 11, 2025

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Forgive me, Lord Greystoke, but you spent your formative years with the great apes, absorbing their customs and values (such as they were). I'm surprised you found Jane Porter attractive when you met her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (omVj0)

275 Sean Penn has guns? The guy who supports every far left democrat who want to ban guns. That guy own guns. 😂

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (ImXfC)

276 Dirk Benedict got so sick of Hollywood that he quit and raised his family in Idaho.

The only time he broke his silence was to denounced NuBattlestar Galactica's Girl Starbuck. Seriously based. No homo.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:09 PM (ZOv7s)

He was good ! But, you know, Katee Sackhoff makes a great Bo-Katan Kryze, in Clone Wars, Rebels and Mandalorian.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (g47mK)

277 About the most movie violence I'll go for these days is Muppet Treasure Island.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (uWKK8)

278 To cheer me up during a really dark time in my life, my daughter persuaded me to watch 'One Cut of the Dead' even though I wasn't in the mood for comedy. We laughed so hard our sides hurt. Every so often out of nowhere my daughter springs into a weird quasi-martial arts/fitness exercise pose a crazy woman uses in the movie and cracks us up all over again.

Love that movie. You must watch 'One Cut of the Dead'.

Posted by: troyriser at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (DPeYO)

279 Gunn likes to share Pedo jokes.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (VofaG)

280
I can understand that if you grew up watching the TV show.

I never saw an episode of it until it turned up on cable in the recent past.

I've still only seen a few episodes of the show, but George Reeves seemed pretty good in the role.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

***
He was quite good. His Clark did not seem very "mild-mannered," though, but more like a solid reporter in the movies' mold.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (omVj0)

281 @258

>>Reeve amazed me. I'd grown up with George Reeves, and said "Nobody can top him." Then Chris, a real actor, proved me wrong and I was happy that he did.

The defining quality of Superman is his smile and optimism, Reeve and Reeves had it, Dean Cane had it, Tom Welling had it.

Sadly, Henry Cavill was never allowed to smile as Superman, so, ultimately, he was a sub-par Superman.

This Cornsweat kid looks like he has the goods.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (XV/Pl)

282 Hey, Jimmy Gunn, the pedophile.

We are all just fine eith legal immigrants who enter the country properly.

We aren't with foreign invaders who break the law to get here.

Sadly, you're too fucking stupid to know the difference.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (/RHNq)

283 He was good ! But, you know, Katee Sackhoff makes a great Bo-Katan Kryze, in Clone Wars, Rebels and Mandalorian.
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (g47mK)

Katie Sackhoff's best character ever was Bitch Puddin'.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (uWKK8)

284 Since this is an actual movie thread...I'm thinking of watching the Conjuring series, the trailer for the final movie in the franchise looks pretty decent. Anyone like it? Do I watch it in order of its actual timeline, or the order the movies were released in?

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (gWBY1)

285 **I didn't understand that movie**

A cute cat survives a post-apocalyptic flood with help from a goofy golden retriever, Secretary Bird Jesus, and an alien whale.

Easy to understand.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (w0zR+)

286 270 Before Donner was fired, the original idea for Superman III would have had Luthor back instead of Robert Vaughn, and teamed Luthor with Brainiac who would have created Bizarro to battle Superman. You can see bare traces of this in the much inferior actual version.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:11 PM (0ZQDV)

OK, but wtf was going on with Superman IV?
What a mess that one was.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (6ydKt)

287 Katie Sackhoff's best character ever was Bitch Puddin'.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (uWKK

yeah, I don't know that one. no Robo Chicken or whatever

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (g47mK)

288 Last night watched a truly strange western, 'The Outrage'. Cast and plot rather bizarre, because:

"The Outrage is a 1964 American Western film directed by Martin Ritt and starring Paul Newman, Laurence Harvey, Claire Bloom, Edward G. Robinson and William Shatner.

It is a remake of Akira Kurosawa's 1950 Japanese film Rashomon, based on stories by Ryūnosuke Akutagawa, adapted to an American setting."

At the end I thought, 'What the hell did I just watch?'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (XeU6L)

289 Family Ties in 2025 would have a maga family with Alex Keaton the progressive who teaches them all valuable lessons every week.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (ImXfC)

290 George Reeves portrayed a much harder edged Kent than was common to the comics of the day, but it suited the series, especially the more adult and sometimes noir-ish first season.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (0ZQDV)

291 I didn't even consider serial/episodic productions. Those have become *vile.* Heinous. The movies are awful. But G-d forbid you watch one of those. Just buy a 4 pound hammer and smash it on your dick once a week (or 12 times a day if you're a binge watcher).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (BI5O2)

292 Air India 171 report finding: both fuel control switches were found set to 'cutoff!' These switches have sleeve detents on them; VERY unlikely impact forces could switch them.

Cripes.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (TwZXH)

293 A cute cat survives a post-apocalyptic flood with help from a goofy golden retriever, Secretary Bird Jesus, and an alien whale.

Easy to understand.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:13 PM (w0zR+)

So it is as strange as I remember

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (VE6XX)

294 THere is no better Superman than the late Christopher Reeve.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (g47mK)

295 277 About the most movie violence I'll go for these days is Muppet Treasure Island.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (uWKK

You can always count on Miss Piggy for some good ol' ultra violence.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (6ydKt)

296 Truth, Justice, and the Human Way

So close!

Posted by: The Human League at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (D0HYP)

297 This guy makes a good story - >

Lucien Wolfe@nuclear_zero1 . 31m

They won’t say it publicly, but this isn’t about Bongino vs. Bondi.
It’s about who controls the evidence.

Back in 2018, Bondi was handed sealed access to Epstein’s metadata archives, including names, encrypted comms, and—most crucially—video footage.
Not the client list. The kompromat.

Bongino found out she wasn’t just withholding names—
She was protecting assets. Assets that tie into foreign intel networks and a very specific island’s blackmail hub.

That’s why he drew the line:
Not because she’s “incompetent,”
But because she’s untouchable.

DOJ wanted her in. Trump didn’t block it. Bongino got the message.

This isn’t a feud. It’s a silent war.

Part 2: Why was Pam Bondi photographed entering Langley on a Sunday?

Who’s she really working for?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (Ri+6K)

298 292 Air India 171 report finding: both fuel control switches were found set to 'cutoff!' These switches have sleeve detents on them; VERY unlikely impact forces could switch them.

Cripes.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (TwZXH)

Yeah, saw that.

Pilot suicide or unbelievably offensive amount of lack of competence?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (uCjyK)

299 The graphic novels "All Star Superman" (1+2) are proof that you CAN make a good superman story. Highly recommended. Surprisingly moving. James Gunn stole some of the imagery and characters from those novels to make this film, which really pisses me off.

Posted by: Max Power at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (q177U)

300 I have to admit I really liked the Superman battling himself scene.
Posted by: InZona at July 11, 2025

***
The "dark" Superman stuff, the scenes with Lana Lang (Annette O'Toole), and the way Robert Vaughn's character seemed truly to enjoy what he was doing, were all god stuff. It was Pryor's casting and character that ruined it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (omVj0)

301 Corenswet is great in the movie. I would place him as a solid second to Christopher Reeve as far as best Superman.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (0ZQDV)

302 Most recently watched "The Third Man" last night. Great film.

Also going through "Moonlighting" seasons 1-3. Show has held of very well. There was even an episode when Maddie whines about the Male Gaze and Addison replies "It wasn't a problem for you when you made millions as a model. What changed?"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (ZOv7s)

303 **Air India 171 report finding: both fuel control switches were found set to 'cutoff!' These switches have sleeve detents on them; VERY unlikely impact forces could switch them.**

So, suicide by old pilot about to retire, or young pilot fresh out of flight training?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 05:16 PM (w0zR+)

304 294 THere is no better Superman than the late Christopher Reeve.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (g47mK)

He definitely had the face for it.

I liked his bumbling, stuttering, Clark Kent, too.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:17 PM (6ydKt)

305 George Reeves portrayed a much harder edged Kent than was common to the comics of the day, but it suited the series, especially the more adult and sometimes noir-ish first season.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025

***
True. Though the second season started off very well, with my favorite episode, "Five Minutes to Doom." Superman crashing through the prison wall, literally in the shadow of the electric chair . . . Wow.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:17 PM (omVj0)

306 Nood. Bondi.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (Wnv9h)

307 >>> Sean Penn has guns? The guy who supports every far left democrat who want to ban guns. That guy own guns. 😂 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM (ImXfC)

Well, not after Charlize got her hands on him...

I always find it rich that feminist actresses that make their careers playing pistol packin' mamas (Atomic Blonde, Mad Max fury Road, Aeon Flux for Charlize) want to deny it as a source of protection for real, vulnerable women.

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (gWBY1)

308 there is lot of BS going around about Bongino, Patel and Bondi and conspiracy theorist are all abuzz. But here is this: "In a Friday morning social media post, Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche wrote that he worked closely with Patel and Bongino on the memo and that all three officials signed off on the memo’s contents and conclusions.

“The suggestion by anyone that there was any daylight between the FBI and DOJ leadership on this memo’s composition and release is patently false,” Blanche wrote."

I believe it , since that is how it is done - all of them sign off on it.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (g47mK)

309 Amy Adams was the best Lois Lane.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 05:18 PM (/U5Yz)

310 Ace, thanks for letting me ramble about Superman. The character is a hobby of mine and I have enjoyed the discussion.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (0ZQDV)

311 to make that kind of statement...they all had to agree

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (g47mK)

312 THere is no better Superman than the late Christopher Reeve.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 05:15 PM (g47mK)

He definitely had the face for it.

I liked his bumbling, stuttering, Clark Kent, too.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025

***
His Clark, I've read, was modeled on Cary Grant's bumbling paleontologist in Bringing Up Baby. He also read the comics and modeled his "swimming through the air" poses on Curt Swan's iconic artwork from the comics.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (omVj0)

313 No one else seems to like it but I really loved the new Daredevil: Born Again series. Yeah, yeah, it's Disney+. We cancelled it but then got it bundled when we switched to another carrier.

Posted by: Max Power at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (q177U)

314 They need to do a live-action film with Bizarro Superman in it.

He's been in animated films, but I don't think they've had him in a movie.

I'd see that if it's done well enough.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (6ydKt)

315 Captain America really not to fond of America

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (VofaG)

316 "Was Pam Bondi photographed entering Langley on a Sunday?"

grok's answer:

There is no definitive evidence or credible report confirming that Pam Bondi was photographed entering Langley (CIA headquarters) on a Sunday. I checked available sources, including recent news and social media, and found no specific mention or verified images of such an event. Without concrete evidence, this appears to be an unverified claim or rumor. If you have a specific source or image in question, I can analyze it further for authenticity.en.wikipedia.org
25 web pages

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (Ri+6K)

317 Oh, I forgot to mention when I got home last night I watched a Western on GritTV where Ronald Reagan played a Confederate Officer who ultimately ends up ordering his troops to rescue an Union fort in the west that is about to be destroyed by a collection of Apache forces under the command of Cochise and Geronimo!

Once upon a time movies and books and comics still embraced the notion that not everything about the Confederacy was vile and unredeemable.

Posted by: Crusader at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (TN0g+)

318 217 The Charlize Theron story reminds me of that minor scene in Mario Puzzo’s The Godfather (the book) where random men in Hollywood could go to a theater (probably not pr0n since this was set in the early 50s), and sit in the dark and watch a movie while aged-out movie actresses would sneak in and give them blowjobs.

The idea was these women had built their careers on the casting couch, gotten addicted to being desirable, but were now too old for that and not marriageable, so this scene was the only way they could feed that addiction.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 04:59 PM (jYRYu)

dammit, sometimes I feel like I missed a lot of the good stuff in life.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (uWKK8)

319 His Clark, I've read, was modeled on Cary Grant's bumbling paleontologist in Bringing Up Baby. He also read the comics and modeled his "swimming through the air" poses on Curt Swan's iconic artwork from the comics.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:19 PM (omVj0)

I've seen that movie and yeah, that makes perfect sense now that I think about it.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:20 PM (6ydKt)

320 I saw the teaser trailer for Hail Mary, the film adaptation of a book by the same name written by the author of The Martian. The book was pretty good; the trailer looked very good.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (bNf8H)

321 259 I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex
......

Starring Charlize Theron and a dozen 26 year old men.
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 05:08 PM (v0R5T)
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Eddie Haskell would be running a meth lab out of the high school chemistry department. But, they'd take him down on a sexual harassment charge for using the wrong pronoun. And, in case you're wondering. They'd set him up as a proud member of the MAGA party. Beaver and Lumpy would be gay.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (dIske)

322 Corenswet, like Reeve, is a Juilliard graduate and acts the part very well, effectively creating 3 characters: Superman, public Clark Kent, and how he is with people who know his secret.

Posted by: Open Channel D at July 11, 2025 05:23 PM (0ZQDV)

323
"Anything you guys can recommend?"

Finally saw "Sinners" and I gotta say I thought it was damn good. The director uses music in a really great way, and it's a lot of old Delta blues, which I love. Plus, vampires.

Posted by: UGAdawg at July 11, 2025 04:58 PM (xP8uf)

The movie itself is basically "Feast" or "Legion", or 60 other "humans barricade themselves in a single location to battle the Forces of Evil but totes not a rehash of Assault on Precinct 13" flicks. But the two big musical numbers, by the humans doing blues/rock/rap/jazz or the vampires doing country/Celtic Irish are absolutely amazing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (y9nCu)

324 Huge recommendation for Becoming Led Zeppelin.
If you are even a little bit of a fan, you'll love it.

My wife probably only knew (and not by name) 3-4 of their songs going in and found it entertaining and interesting as a period piece of the end of the 60's.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at July 11, 2025 05:25 PM (xaNfJ)

325 I wonder what the "Leave it to Beaver" remake would be like.
Posted by: Auspex

Still the Beaver was on from 83-89.

Posted by: Rancho Rutherford at July 11, 2025 05:26 PM (G5+As)

326 Eddie Haskell would be running a meth lab out of the high school chemistry department. But, they'd take him down on a sexual harassment charge for using the wrong pronoun. And, in case you're wondering. They'd set him up as a proud member of the MAGA party. Beaver and Lumpy would be gay.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 05:21 PM (dIske)

Ward went out for some cigarettes one night and never came back.

June is a single parent, who drives Uber during the day and tends bar at night. She dates her Boss who slaps Beaver around for being gay when June isn't looking.

Wally ran off after his Dad and the last anybody had heard of him he was selling Eddie's meth on the corner of the Main and 10th St. in downtown Mayfield.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (6ydKt)

327 The most darkly amusing part of the whole situation (I've read a lot on the subject beyond just watching the documentary), is how cocky Stockton Rush (the now-squished CEO) was about everything.

Guy missed his calling as a politician.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (uCjyK)

I've seen theories floating around that Stockton Rush wanted to commit suicide in the flashiest way possible and he chose that voyage so he could be linked to Titanic forever. Massive ego.

Unfortunately, he took four other people with him.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at July 11, 2025 05:27 PM (k9OZB)

328 Would definitely recommend "One Cut of the Dead". If it's on Shudder, and especially if you've already seen it, you can check out Joe Bob Brigg's hosting of it on "The Last Drive In" in which he delivered his now famous "Keep rolling..." speech.

"Train to Busan", of course, in the same zombie vein.

I recently saw a double-bill of "Repo Man" and "Return of the Living Dead". They hold up remarkably well.

Posted by: moviegique (buy my books) at July 11, 2025 05:31 PM (asXVI)

329 Highly recommend F1, in fact, feel like it's being a bit overlooked (maybe because the creators haven't run around saying stupid things), so I'm recommending it to everybody!

Some might accuse it of some wokery, but it didn't come across like that to me. For example, the actress who played the Team therapist in Ted Lasso (she was excellently cast in that) plays the mother of the younger driver on the Team. It might be little unusual that a mom would travel around like that with her grown son, and one might think, oh this was just to get a black woman in the cast. But to me, she was a character I could relate to.

And the score includes both old time rock classics, and some new rap-ish stuff that the young folks probably like & know.

Feel like they put in A LOT of effort to make a crowd-pleasing movie. It is rated PG-13. There's a little sexy romance stuff and I suppose there's some bad words, but nothing overly offensive.

Pretty long, but extremely well paced. I know nothing about racing, and really enjoyed it.

Posted by: jocon307 at July 11, 2025 05:32 PM (EuROc)

330 I can recommend Dept. Q on Netflix, Deep Cover on Prime . Murderbot, based on Martha Wells' novella, on Apple is amusing. Last episode is tonight.

Posted by: Tuna at July 11, 2025 05:36 PM (lJ0H4)

331 Probably the worst movie I ever saw was 1984's "Weekend Pass". First ever date where I could drive. I was 16, she was 18. At least there were boobs involved in the end. IYKWIM. Totally made up for the movie.

Posted by: Turn 2 at July 11, 2025 05:45 PM (CyFyf)

332 Family Ties in 2025 would have a maga family with Alex Keaton the progressive who teaches them all valuable lessons every week.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 05:14 PM (ImXfC)

The intent of that show *was* for the liberal parents to do that. But Alex and Mallory "slipped the leash" and to their credit the show ran with it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 05:50 PM (8avO+)

333 Big hat no cattle

Big ass no paddle

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 11, 2025 05:52 PM (NtVYv)

334 I think I need to rewatch Superman II.

Posted by: Texican ette at July 11, 2025 06:00 PM (SNf74)

335 old hat, but my daughter (i raised my kids on zombie fodder) turned me on to the great "when evil lurks" and "incident in a ghost land"
both are supreme.

Posted by: cmeat at July 12, 2025 05:13 PM (GAyiy)

336 Forgive me, Lord Greystoke, but you spent your formative years with the great apes, absorbing their customs and values (such as they were). I'm surprised you found Jane Porter attractive when you met her.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 05:12 PM

She had a red ass.

Posted by: toby928 at July 12, 2025 07:52 PM (ptgc5)

Quick Hits

The DOD has yanked the nomination, for head of the 7th fleet, of an admiral who held a drag show on his aircraft carrier.

The Defense Department is withdrawing the nomination of Rear Adm. Michael "Buzz" Donnelly, The Daily Wire can first report, under whose command drag performances took place on board the USS Ronald Reagan.
Donnelly served as commanding officer of the aircraft carrier from April 2016 to September 2018, during which time Yeoman 2nd Class Joshua Kelley performed as a drag queen under the name "Harpy Daniels" at a department-sanctioned "Morale, Welfare, and Recreation" event on the aircraft carrier.
The Defense Department announced on June 18 that President Donald Trump had nominated Donnelly for promotion to vice admiral and an appointment as commander of the 7th Fleet, the largest overseas force that the Navy has.
Following inquiries from The Daily Wire about Donnelly and the drag queen shows he permitted on board the USS Ronald Reagan, a source at the Defense Department said that Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is withdrawing Donnelly's nomination to lead the 7th Fleet.

John Kerry realizes, years too late, that the President's "Job One" is to defend the border.

Former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has admitted that President Donald J. Trump was correct on border and immigration issues, stating, "Trump was right," during an interview. He criticized Democrats for failing to address border security adequately, admitting the U.S.-Mexico border was "under siege" during Joe Biden's presidency.
Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, remarked, "The first thing any President should say--or anybody in public life--is without a border protected, you don't have a nation." He added, "I wish President Biden had been heard more often saying, I'm going to enforce the law."

The NYT is sad that Democrats can't get straight on immigration.

The Democrats onstage saw themselves as morally courageous. American voters, it turned out, saw a group of politicians hopelessly out of touch.
Standing side by side at a primary debate in June 2019, nine of the party's candidates for president were asked to raise their hand if they wanted to decriminalize illegal border crossings. Only one of them held still.
Six years later, the party remains haunted by that tableau. It stands both as a vivid demonstration of a leftward policy shift on immigration that many prominent Democratic lawmakers and strategists now say they deeply regret, and as a marker of how sharply the country was moving in the other direction.
Last year, 55 percent of Americans told Gallup that they supported a decrease in immigration, nearly twice as many as in 2020, and the first time since 2005 that a majority had said so. The embrace of a more punitive approach to illegal immigration includes not only white voters but also working-class Latinos, whose support Democrats had long courted with liberal border policies.
"When you have the most Latino district in the country outside of Puerto Rico vote for Trump, that should be a wake-up call for the Democratic Party," said Representative Vicente Gonzalez of Texas, who saw Mr. Trump win every county in his district along the border with Mexico. "This is a Democratic district that's been blue for over a century."
How the Democrats reached this point, and their continued struggles on immigration, is a decades-long story of political failures, missteps, misreadings and misplaced bets -- and some shrewd Republican moves.
"We got led astray by the 2016 and the 2020 elections, and we just never moved back," said Senator Ruben Gallego of Arizona, who introduced an immigration and border security plan in May. "We looked feckless, we weren't decisive, we weren't listening to voters, and the voters decided that we weren't in the right when it comes to what was happening with the border."
What the party does to change its approach -- and to change how voters see Democrats on immigration -- may be the most consequential and difficult decision it faces as it searches for a path back to power.

But while there is party-wide agreement that Democrats have a problem on immigration and border security, there is no consensus on how to fix it.
Some are pushing for a course correction they see as overdue. A new proposal from the Center for American Progress, the party's leading policy shop, calls for expanding legal immigration while embracing ideas long championed by conservatives, including making it harder for migrants to qualify for asylum.
Neera Tanden, the center's chief executive, said the plan acknowledged a reality that Democrats had long resisted: They must embrace new immigration restrictions in order to have the credibility with voters to fight the far more expansive plans of the Trump administration.
"I'm happy to argue with Stephen Miller or anyone else about why they are wrong," she said. "But the way we're going to be able to do that is to also honestly assess that the border has been too insecure, that it allowed too many people to come through and that we need to fix that."
Many on the left vehemently disagree, insisting that more conservative policies will only aid what they see as an insidious and ambitious effort by the Trump administration to demonize and deport Black and brown immigrants who have been in the country for years, remaking the fabric of a nation that once took pride in its diversity.
"Democrats have to stop talking about the issue of immigration within a Republican frame," said Representative Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts. "This has nothing to do with law and order. This is about power, control, terror, and it is about racism and xenophobia. Donald Trump wants to make America Jim Crow again, and then some."
Complicating Democrats' efforts to chart a new path is the fact that the party's debate is unfolding in the midst of what it sees as a national crisis. The Trump administration is pursuing the harshest crackdown on immigrants since World War II.
Raids and patrols by masked officers, detentions at courthouses and workplaces, the promises to arrest and deport millions, and the deployment of National Guard troops against protesters all have undocumented immigrants and even some naturalized citizens running scared and lying low.
"We, and I include myself in this, created a vacuum on this issue that we allowed the current president to fill," said Cecilia Muñoz, who led the Obama administration's domestic policy council. "And the country is now living with the results. And the results are appalling."

The Washington Post sends out an email to workers -- or, let's say, Those Drawing a Paycheck -- telling them that if they feel their politics "do not align" with the current (less leftwing, allegedly) direction of the paper, they should take the voluntary buyout package. Unstated threat: If you do not align with Bezos's determination to make the paper less insane than MSNBC: The Print Edition as it is now, you will be fired and get nothing.

But the paper seems to still be MSNBC: The Print Edition. They just ran an article objecting to calling Trump a clown, by a literal clown, who says that Trump fails to live up to the Clown Code of Conduct.

I am a clown and board president of the nonprofit, Clowns Without Borders. I'm here to set the record straight.
I have performed as a professional clown for 24 years. Clown, capital C, is a valuable and varied art form; pantomimes, acrobats, magicians, dancers, stand-up comedians, vaudeville artists and jugglers are all examples of artists who incorporate Clown into their work. Whether you know it as Clown or not, you've likely seen it. From stage clowns such as Bill Irwin to the characters of Cirque du Soleil, created by masters such as Michelle Matlock and Mooky Cornish; from pedagogical ensembles, such as Pig Iron or Spymonkey to health care clown organizations such as the Laughter League and Healthy Humor. Clown is huge.

As they often ask on Always Sunny: "What is happening right now?"

Zohran Mamdani's communist supporters say they're going to primary leftwing racist Hakeem Jeffries next.

Democratic socialists in New York City emboldened by Zohran Mamdani's mayoral primary win are warning that they may go after five House incumbents next -- and Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader at the top of their list, is daring them to try.
Jeffries' political operation even has a nickname for those talking up threats to the House minority leader back home: "Team Gentrification."
That phrase reflects that Mamdani turned out young progressives who, according to unofficial election data, were largely Whiter and wealthier as a whole than the longtime residents of the districts represented by Jeffries and others being targeted. But it also speaks to the resentment many Democratic politicians in the nation's largest city -- and in places around the country that aren't as deep-blue as New York -- have at being told by Mamdani supporters there's a new reality that they now need to adapt to, and quickly.
Mamdani's allies, notably key leaders of the Democratic Socialists of America, are talking about running primary challengers against Jeffries and several other incumbents, including Reps. Ritchie Torres, Jerry Nadler, Dan Goldman and Yvette Clarke.

Jeffries' team fired back with their new, dumb insult.

"Leader Hakeem Jeffries is focused on taking back the House from the MAGA extremists who just ripped health care away from millions of Americans," Jeffries senior adviser André Richardson told CNN.
"However, if Team Gentrification wants a primary fight, our response will be forceful and unrelenting. We will teach them and all of their incumbents a painful lesson on June 23, 2026," he warned.

Scott Jennings didn�t wait for introductions before lighting a fuse on CNN�s panel.

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— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) July 9, 2025

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— TV News Now (@TVNewsNow) July 9, 2025

Must-watch compilation of the physical attacks and ambushes of ICE agents that the Democrat-Media Party continues to cover-up for, while also inciting new attacks:

Posted by: Ace at 03:15 PM

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Posted by: GF at July 11, 2025 03:18 PM (Uyx8K)

2 Early Quick hits?

Posted by: Inogame at July 11, 2025 03:18 PM (53oGX)

3 Collin Rugg@CollinRugg

NEW: 17-year-old girl arrested for m*rdering her parents, gave a speech at her mother’s funeral and posted videos on TikTok for sympathy.

Georgia teen Sarah Grace Patrick publicly mourned the passing of her parents who were shot in their home.

In a desperate attempt for even more sympathy, Patrick allegedly reached out to true crime podcasters and asked if they could cover her parent’s m*rder.

Her mom, Kristen Brock, 41, and her stepfather, James Brock, 45 were found by their 5-year-old daughter in their home back in February.

Patrick was just 16 at the time and was the one to call 911.

She later spoke at her mother’s funeral, crying through the speech.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (TGPs7)

4 The Democrats cannot tack back to the center on immigration. The AOC wing is in control now, and to them, being "morally courageous" is the only thing that matters.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (jGGMD)

5 I love that top quote.

I do need to see what the "eating my face party" thing is originally in response to.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)

6 I personally would vote for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 03:20 PM (pMi6S)

7 >>She later spoke at her mother’s funeral, crying through the speech.

Well she is an orphan now.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 03:21 PM (viF8m)

8 John Kerry realizes, years too late...

In other news, John Kerry is still alive, unfortunately.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 03:21 PM (pMi6S)

9 >>>NEW: 17-year-old girl arrested for m*rdering her parents, gave a speech at her mother’s funeral and posted videos on TikTok for sympathy.

Try her as an adult, go for the death penalty.

She's a psychopath and too dangerous to be left alive, even in prison.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 11, 2025 03:21 PM (jGGMD)

10 I hate fucking clowns.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (W2Pud)

11 re: the lesbian crying about the No Pride ruling --

once again proving the point that leftards are tunnel-visioned and terminally parochial in their outlook

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (dCxaZ)

12
I love that top quote.

I do need to see what the "eating my face party" thing is originally in response to.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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It's from 2015?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:23 PM (UmB+t)

13 12
I love that top quote.

I do need to see what the "eating my face party" thing is originally in response to.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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It's from 2015?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:23 PM (UmB+t)

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Trying to search through dude's timeline. Searching social media sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:23 PM (GBKbO)

14 You knew I was a scorpion.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 03:23 PM (viF8m)

15 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (W2Pud)

Why? Do the clowns never call you back?

Posted by: Dr. T at July 11, 2025 03:24 PM (jGGMD)

16 Do we know for sure that the "Clowns Without borders" and Trump not living up the clown code of conduct is not some excellent parody?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 03:24 PM (2GCMq)

17 "Democrats have to stop talking about the issue of immigration within a Republican frame," said Representative Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts. "This has nothing to do with law and order. This is about power, control, terror, and it is about racism and xenophobia. Donald Trump wants to make America Jim Crow again, and then some."

Yawwwwwwnnnnnnn. Yeah, yeah, racism, evil white people, Jim Crow, xenophobia. Have you EVER had an original thought?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:24 PM (Riz8t)

18 The "Leopards Eating People's Faces Party" was originally aimed at MAGA voters. Nice to see it being repackaged against the left now that their ass is getting impaled by their choices.

P.S. This saying is an insult to leopards. They are majestic. The snow leopard is one of the world's most beautiful animals. They don't eat people's faces.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

19
I scrolled through a Substack feed for the first real time because I wanted to find a post from someone I enjoyed elsewhere.

Conclusion: most of these people are clinically insane.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 03:25 PM (HZi96)

20 2 Early Quick hits?
Posted by: Inogame[`

Someone swiped left on Ace's Tinder profile. Rest of the afternoon reserved for date-preparation.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 03:25 PM (pMi6S)

21 17 "Democrats have to stop talking about the issue of immigration within a Republican frame," said Representative Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts. "This has nothing to do with law and order. This is about power, control, terror, and it is about racism and xenophobia. Donald Trump wants to make America Jim Crow again, and then some."

Yawwwwwwnnnnnnn. Yeah, yeah, racism, evil white people, Jim Crow, xenophobia. Have you EVER had an original thought?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:24 PM (Riz8t)

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One of the more amusing things over the last couple of days was the video of the landscaper who ran into the doctor's office to escape ICE. All the comments calling ICE racist Nazis.

Most prominent ICE member in the video is black.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:25 PM (GBKbO)

22 NEW: 17-year-old girl arrested for m*rdering her parents, gave a speech at her mother’s funeral and posted videos on TikTok for sympathy.

Try her as an adult, go for the death penalty.

I mean... did she actually kill them or was she just arrested for it, on the grounds that murders are usually done by family?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 03:26 PM (a+4eV)

23 "Oooooo....nice view. You can see everything from up here. Is that a camel over there? It's so small at this height. Wonderful....Ummm....HEY!....WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!! TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF ME!!! STOP IT!!!! I'M GOING TO FALL!!!! NOOOOOOoooooooooo.....Auuugggggghhhhh....."

*SPLAT*

(This has been a public service announcement. We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.)

Posted by: Lesbian for Hamas at July 11, 2025 03:26 PM (dIske)

24 18 The "Leopards Eating People's Faces Party" was originally aimed at MAGA voters. Nice to see it being repackaged against the left now that their ass is getting impaled by their choices.

P.S. This saying is an insult to leopards. They are majestic. The snow leopard is one of the world's most beautiful animals. They don't eat people's faces.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

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Alright. Good enough for me. I can close the dude's account. Seemed weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:26 PM (GBKbO)

25 Yawwwwwwnnnnnnn. Yeah, yeah, racism, evil white people, Jim Crow, xenophobia. Have you EVER had an original thought?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:24 PM (Riz8t)

Well, she is from Massachusetts, soooo....probably not.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 11, 2025 03:26 PM (jGGMD)

26 and when they stone them because it is their custom

see also that scene, in id4, right before they vaporize the Library Tower

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:27 PM (bXbFr)

27 It looks like Trump picked up a significant number of Muslim votes in MN, and mostly because of Globohomo.

No they don't like Jews/Israel, but they dislike leftists trying to groom their kids more.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:27 PM (t0Rmr)

28 10 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Me too. At a minimum, I insist they use a condom. And no butt stuff!

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 03:27 PM (pMi6S)

29 all the leftards see is a fellow resident of the intersectionality stack and comrade in grievance arms.

No appreciation of cultural or historical context. Or even contemporary context, in the case of muslims ffs

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (dCxaZ)

30 GET OFFA MY SHIP, "BUZZ".

A po'd Master Chief Boatswain Mate USS Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: Ries Gorthanes at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (TaWok)

31 >I hate fucking clowns.
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so stop already

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (AOsQT)

32 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Me too. At a minimum, I insist they use a condom. And no butt stuff!

They are an acquired taste really.

Posted by: Ed Gein at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (t0Rmr)

33 once again proving the point that leftards are tunnel-visioned and terminally parochial in their outlook
Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (dCxaZ

Some unfunny comedienne (BIRM) who is also Jewish went on a similar tirade recently. I think it might have been Amy Schumer, but not positive.

Anyway, she was like "hurr durr buh we supported all duh Leftizmz, why u wanna kill all duh jooz now herpa doopa doo duhhhh."

Fucking hilarious. So dumb.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (BI5O2)

34 NEW: 17-year-old girl arrested for m*rdering her parents, gave a speech at her mother’s funeral and posted videos on TikTok for sympathy.

So she literally did the "murder your parents and then plead for sympathy because she's an orphan" thing? Wow.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (2ocoG)

35 "We welcomed you, we created nonprofits to help feed, clothe, find housing. We did everything we could to make your transition here easier, and this is how you repay us, by stabbing us in the back?" said Catrina Stackpool, a lesbian former city council member, after her Muslim successors voted to block the display of Pride flags on city
property this June.

Bwahahahahahahaha!
No, wait.
Bwahahahahahahaha!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (8v2yu)

36 Muslims think leftists are useful idiots, leftists think muslims are useful idiots. And honestly it is an open question who is correct...

Posted by: Ed Gein at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (t0Rmr)

37 Have you seen the size of clown shoes?

Once you go bozo you never go back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (viF8m)

38 I personally would vote for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 03:20 PM (pMi6S)

Their position on tax reform is clear. People's faces will be eaten.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (8avO+)

39 lol.

Democrats, especially Democrat females because they are easily manipulated because of their lack of emotional control, have been conditioned to hate white, Christian males so much that they will grasp on to anything that is not white, Christian or male.

They'll literally import sand-n*ggers that will make them wear a black sheet over their head with a slit cut to see out of in order to "own" the white, Christian males that gave them the luxurious orderly society.

Even conservative women are prone to this, they just think owning white, Christian males needs to be done in a "nuanced" fashion. But the truth is, they still love them some "I'm not racist" speech codes, think that pit bulls can be lovable, and that girl bosses should go to college and eschew having babies. They are only sufferable by comparison.

White Christian males are going to let you have your way until you are f*cking begging for us to restore order. But when we do, we aren't listening to your whining anymore. It's gonna be back to STFU or get backhanded.

Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (6BNWj)

40 35 "We welcomed you, we created nonprofits to help feed, clothe, find housing. We did everything we could to make your transition here easier, and this is how you repay us, by stabbing us in the back?" said Catrina Stackpool, a lesbian former city council member, after her Muslim successors voted to block the display of Pride flags on city
property this June.

Bwahahahahahahaha!
No, wait.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (8v2yu)

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Her follow up comment was removed from publication. It was, "I have learned nothing from this experience and will vote for Muslims whenever possible because Republicans want to put me in a burka."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (GBKbO)

41 This saying is an insult to leopards. They are majestic. The snow leopard is one of the world's most beautiful animals. They don't eat people's faces.

my first visit to the Philadelphia Zoo, I was mesmerized by the snow leopard. But I felt so sorry for the big cats...they were cooped up in little cages. This was before the zoo embraced the habitat concept.

there was a poor panther, just pacing up and down, with crazy eyes... poor baby.

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (dCxaZ)

42 It looks like Trump picked up a significant number of Muslim votes in MN, and mostly because of Globohomo.

Before the election a couple of imams endorsed Trump on the basis that he wouldn't try to trans your kids. Weird bedfellows, but I'll take the votes.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (2ocoG)

43 36 Muslims think leftists are useful idiots, leftists think muslims are useful idiots. And honestly it is an open question who is correct...
Posted by: Ed Gein at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (t0Rmr)

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I disagree.

The leftist idiots are just leftist idiots and cannot figure out basic consequences.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (GBKbO)

44 Muslims think leftists are useful idiots, leftists think muslims are useful idiots. And honestly it is an open question who is correct...
Posted by: Ed Gein at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (t0Rmr)

If they are fighting each other, they both lose.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (8avO+)

45 Just one guy in drag on a great big ship? No big deal. I thought Donnelly was in drag himself

Posted by: Corporal Klinger at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (T8cZT)

46 Muslims think leftists are useful idiots, leftists think muslims are useful idiots. And honestly it is an open question who is correct...

It's pretty obviously both.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (Riz8t)

47 How does that clown (and the clowns at the Washington Post) categorize mass murder, Democrat Party precinct captain, and professional clown, John Wayne Gacy.

Does he give the Democrat Party or Clowns a bad name?

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (dIske)

48 I love that top quote.

I do need to see what the "eating my face party" thing is originally in response to.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Me too.

It's a locust complaining that a bigger, meaner locust is now in charge.

Whoops! Whoopsie!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 03:31 PM (7fElN)

49 The actual stabbings come later. Ask the Europeans.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at July 11, 2025 03:31 PM (MZ+PY)

50 When I was in the Navy, a guy like Harpy, would have met with an unfortunate and mysterious accident that no one would have witnessed.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2025 03:32 PM (hdyxQ)

51 Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 03:29

Try decaf.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 03:32 PM (2GCMq)

52 Democrats, especially Democrat females because they are easily manipulated because of their lack of emotional control, have been conditioned to hate white, Christian males so much that they will grasp on to anything that is not white, Christian or male.

The heat map is undefeated.

Normal people and self-identifying conservatives care most about God, their family, their pets, and their close friends.

Self-identifying liberals care least about those things and most about people and things that have the least to do with them. It's a total inversion, arguably a mental illness.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:33 PM (2ocoG)

53 They're both idiots. How useful they are is up for debate.

Posted by: Clarence Beeks at July 11, 2025 03:33 PM (gx/Qs)

54 Reports: Metadata shows Epstein tape was edited and saved multiple times; Bongino takes leave of absence after spat with AG Bondi

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NTTAWWT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 03:33 PM (L/fGl)

55 Try decaf.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 03:32 PM (2GCMq)

Okay "Pastor".

Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 03:33 PM (6BNWj)

56 18 Elric, I totally agree about the snow leopard. Magnificent animal.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:33 PM (77rzZ)

57 Her follow up comment was removed from publication. It was, "I have learned nothing from this experience and will vote for Muslims whenever possible because Republicans want to put me in a burka."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (GBKbO)

So she hasn't noticed peeps wearing burkas now for solidarity with the Palis? Democrats all.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:34 PM (8avO+)

58 well tigers but the metaphor didn't occur to them,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:34 PM (bXbFr)

59
How is the left capable of changing its stance on illegal immigration? They won't even admit to themselves why they're doing this.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:34 PM (UmB+t)

60
Shot thru the fright wig
and you're to blame
you give clowns
a bad name

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:34 PM (AOsQT)

61 51 Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 03:29

Try decaf.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 03:32 PM (2GCMq)

They don't serve coffee at Stormfront. Because it's black.

Posted by: Wicket at July 11, 2025 03:34 PM (guCHD)

62 Also, I fully endorse leopards eating Democrats' faces.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:35 PM (2ocoG)

63 Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 03:33 PM (6BNWj

Changed your handle again? lol

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 03:35 PM (2GCMq)

64 Hmm, maybe her word choice - "transition" - was not the best?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 03:35 PM (ULPxl)

65 18 The "Leopards Eating People's Faces Party" was originally aimed at MAGA voters. Nice to see it being repackaged against the left now that their ass is getting impaled by their choices.

P.S. This saying is an insult to leopards. They are majestic. The snow leopard is one of the world's most beautiful animals. They don't eat people's faces.

Snow leopards were framed. It's the f**king Yetis eating all the faces. Stupid snow bigfoots...uh..bigfeets? Whatever.

Posted by: Nelly at July 11, 2025 03:35 PM (cHLus)

66 I saw a leopard on a game drive in South Africa. He was just casually walking away from a small pond and looked over at us with an expression of "What the hell are you looking at?". 2 hyenas following behind him at a respectable distance waiting for leftovers.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 03:35 PM (viF8m)

67 Quick Hits seems early today. The boss must be working something really juicy.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 03:35 PM (jYRYu)

68 This saying is an insult to leopards. They are majestic. The snow leopard is one of the world's most beautiful animals. They don't eat people's faces.

my first visit to the Philadelphia Zoo, I was mesmerized by the snow leopard. But I felt so sorry for the big cats...they were cooped up in little cages. This was before the zoo embraced the habitat concept.

there was a poor panther, just pacing up and down, with crazy eyes... poor baby.
Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (dCxaZ)
_____

The Calgary zoo has snow leopards in a huge outdoor enclosure. I saw the female there. They're much smaller than lions or even African leopards, but beautiful. I added a snow leopard character to my book in part based on this.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

69 In the anti-ICE video, I must say I really enjoyed watching that fat trannie hit the pavement like a sack of wet cement.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:36 PM (Riz8t)

70 28 10 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched

Me too. At a minimum, I insist they use a condom. And no butt stuff!

I promise my lapel flower won't do the thing on your face.

Posted by: Nelly at July 11, 2025 03:36 PM (cHLus)

71 Democrats, especially Democrat females because they are easily manipulated because of their lack of emotional control, have been conditioned to hate white, Christian males so much that they will grasp on to anything that is not white, Christian or male.

yeah the bear versus man kerfuffle showed that. "would you rather be dropped in a wood alone that has a man in it or a bear" Most women chose bear since the man would hunt her down and SA her. Or to try and guilt trip men somehow.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:36 PM (8avO+)

72 Rumors on X: Dan Bongino is threatening to quit over the Epstein files. DeSantis is being considered to replace Bondi as AG.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 11, 2025 03:36 PM (paSBy)

73 I can't say I'm not enjoying watching the Democrat party literally shit all over itself.

But we have got to hold control of the House and Senate next year. This cannot be a replay of 2018.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at July 11, 2025 03:37 PM (wtvvX)

74 Quick Hits seems early today. The boss must be working something really juicy.

He's got a hot date tonight that he's going to hang shelves for. Hopefully she doesn't stand under them.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:37 PM (2ocoG)

75 "Leader Hakeem Jeffries is focused on taking back the House from the MAGA extremists who just ripped health care away from millions of Central and South Americans," Jeffries senior adviser André Richardson told CNN.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 03:37 PM (RHGPo)

76 67 Quick Hits seems early today. The boss must be working something really juicy.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at July 11, 2025 03:35 PM (jYRYu)

He needs his afternoon free to whip up a batch of keto lasagna.

Posted by: Wicket at July 11, 2025 03:37 PM (AQ1VH)

77 >>> 75 "Leader Hakeem Jeffries is focused on taking back the House from the MAGA extremists who just ripped health care away from millions of Central and South Americans," Jeffries senior adviser André Richardson told CNN.
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 03:37 PM (RHGPo)

This has GOT to be the Babylon Bee. Right???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (ULPxl)

78 Well now, that's interesting. Pennsylvania's 9-1-1 system is having outages across the state. I wonder if it's related to the 9-1-1 walk out in Philly. They were ordered by the court to get back to work less than a week ago.

Maybe someone came back disgruntled and did something they shouldn't.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (dIske)

79 I don't know. That leopard was doing a really good job of eating that guys face in "Apocalypto"

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (HFcKg)

80 10 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (W2Pud)

Maybe rethink one's dating choices.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (UnA8+)

81 The Calgary zoo has snow leopards in a huge outdoor enclosure. I saw the female there. They're much smaller than lions or even African leopards, but beautiful. I added a snow leopard character to my book in part based on this.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:36 PM (iFTx/)

awwww...

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (dCxaZ)

82 Rumors on X: Dan Bongino is threatening to quit over the Epstein files. DeSantis is being considered to replace Bondi as AG.

So Bongino's threatening to quit and they're gonna can Bondi in response? I could accept that.

My one reservation about it being DeSantis (besides that he's clearly having a lot of fun as governor right now) is The Empress' admonition to never trust a JAG.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (2ocoG)

83 Reading about the lesbian in Michigan when faced with actual Islam, im reminded of the Oscar Wilde quote " one would have to have a heart of stone not to laugh"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (JtH6i)

84 How is the left capable of changing its stance on illegal immigration? They won't even admit to themselves why they're doing this.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:34 PM (UmB+t)

Democrats favor criminals. You can't get much criminaler than someone illegally in the country. If they do crimes here they like them even more.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:39 PM (8avO+)

85 I miss sgt. Hulka. Don't you miss sgt. Hulka.

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2025 03:39 PM (hdyxQ)

86 It wasn't 'under siege', it was a drunk girl at a frat party who just broke up with someone.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 03:39 PM (zZu0s)

87 ... under whose command drag performances took place on board the USS Ronald Reagan.

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What, the USNS Harvey Milk wasn't available?

Keel Haul that asshat!

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 03:39 PM (RW1OD)

88 51 Posted by: Harsh Truth at July 11, 2025 03:29

Try decaf.

Laudanum. A large quantity of it. Possibly laced with fentanyl.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:39 PM (Riz8t)

89 I think I have discovered the source material for the 'shelves' meme.

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:39 PM (AOsQT)

90 I think Lenin coined the term, whatever moves the narrative,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:39 PM (bXbFr)

91 The NYT is sad that Democrats can't get straight on immigration.

That's because they only do gay and retarded.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 11, 2025 03:40 PM (ynpvh)

92 Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting

He added, “I’m going to continue to fight. I don’t care if this president calls me out every day, mean tweets me, threatens me."

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 03:40 PM (RHGPo)

93 >>> How the Democrats reached this point, and their continued struggles on immigration, is a decades-long story of political failures, missteps, misreadings and misplaced bets -- and some shrewd Republican moves.

No, it's a bit deeper than that. Immigration and trade policy have been used by both parties as a big fuck you to the American people.

It's been a bipartisan "fuck you" and until Trump declared he was running, no one on either side would do anything about it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:40 PM (uCjyK)

94 My one reservation about it being DeSantis (besides that he's clearly having a lot of fun as governor right now) is The Empress' admonition to never trust a JAG.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (2ocoG)

I don't want Florida to be de-deSantised until his term is over or nearly so. too many threats.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (8avO+)

95 92 Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting

He added, “I’m going to continue to fight. I don’t care if this president calls me out every day, mean tweets me, threatens me."
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 03:40 PM (RHGPo)

=======

Assertion:

Trump hasn't mentioned Booker publicly in weeks, minimum.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (GBKbO)

96
The DOD has yanked the nomination, for head of the 7th fleet, of an admiral who held a drag show on his aircraft carrier.

Are we sure this was some lgbtq stunt? The Navy has some rather, um, unique traditions, and an institutional sense of humor that doesn*t always translate well to the sane.

Posted by: Clay at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (wLj9Q)

97
Try her as an adult

Posted by: Dr. T

============

"Patrick — who will be tried as an adult — has been charged with two counts of murder and two counts of aggravated assault.

Investigators are still working to discover a motive for the killings."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (UmB+t)

98 Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting

He added, “I’m going to continue to fight. I don’t care if this president calls me out every day, mean tweets me, threatens me."
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 03:40 PM (RHGPo)

WHY WONT ANYONE NOTICE ME

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (8avO+)

99 97 "Patrick — who will be tried as an adult — has been charged with two counts of murder and two counts of aggravated assault.

Investigators are still working to discover a motive for the killings."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (UmB+t)

========

"A MAN MADE HER DO IT!"
-feminist defense lawyer

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

100 92 Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting

He added, “I’m going to continue to fight. I don’t care if this president calls me out every day, mean tweets me, threatens me."

Booker continued, "When I'm in jail, I won't let my personal hygiene suffer, though. I plan to shower frequently. Long, long showers, with lots of hot, soapy water.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (Riz8t)

101 @54

>>Reports: Metadata shows Epstein tape was edited and saved multiple times; Bongino takes leave of absence after spat with AG Bondi

What gave it away, the missing minute of footage, the mysteriously moving garbage can, jump cuts of people entering and exiting the tier?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (XV/Pl)

102 In the anti-ICE video, I must say I really enjoyed watching that fat trannie hit the pavement like a sack of wet cement.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:36 PM (Riz8t)
____

Brought a smile to my face even though I was already smiling. I suspect yuge amounts of heavy drugs were involved.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

103 The media/ journalist hacks are making more shit up and just throwing it out there to find some kind of narrative.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (HFcKg)

104 "Patrick — who will be tried as an adult — has been charged with two counts of murder and two counts of aggravated assault.

Investigators are still working to discover a motive for the killings."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (UmB+t)

I'd suggest she wanted to kill her parents as a motive.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (8avO+)

105 Every single one of these fuckers who say there is a personal vendetta against them specifically should have their entire identity erased.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (zZu0s)

106 As anyone who's read my comments knows, I have been a longtime, vocal proponent of ravenous jungle cats in politics and media.

If I had my way, there would be a weekly "Catcast" on YouTube where me and my crew go to a different city, put a selection of feline killing machines from their local zoo on a three day fast, release them and a DJI drone in a government building or newsroom, and seal the exits.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (BI5O2)

107 >Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting
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Democrats are always fighting something

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:43 PM (AOsQT)

108 Blondi teasing the Epstein files then claiming they don't exist got a lot of lefties to come out and say:

1) Of course they don't exist, its all a conspiracy theory!
2) Except Trump he was the one Epstein client

So if Bongino does force their release this is going to be really funny.

Also, expect to hear that Blondi is one of those "reasonable conservatives" real fast.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:43 PM (t0Rmr)

109 Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting

He added, “I’m going to continue to fight. I don’t care if this president calls me out every day, mean tweets me, threatens me."

Booker continued, "When I'm in jail, I won't let my personal hygiene suffer, though. I plan to shower frequently. Long, long showers, with lots of hot, soapy water.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (Riz8t)
_______

[Golf clap]

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:43 PM (iFTx/)

110 A new proposal from the Center for American Progress, the party's leading policy shop, calls for expanding legal immigration while embracing ideas long championed by conservatives, including making it harder for migrants to qualify for asylum.
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Republicans should introduce such a bill post haste, because Democrats will NEVER vote for this, and- because they won't - they will then firmly be the "anti-immigrant party".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 03:43 PM (stfyU)

111 The DOD has yanked the nomination, for head of the 7th fleet, of an admiral who held a drag show on his aircraft carrier.

Are we sure this was some lgbtq stunt? The Navy has some rather, um, unique traditions, and an institutional sense of humor that doesn*t always translate well to the sane.
Posted by: Clay at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (wLj9Q)

The equator crossing isn't a drag show that I ever heard.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:43 PM (8avO+)

112 >>> 106 As anyone who's read my comments knows, I have been a longtime, vocal proponent of ravenous jungle cats in politics and media.

If I had my way, there would be a weekly "Catcast" on YouTube where me and my crew go to a different city, put a selection of feline killing machines from their local zoo on a three day fast, release them and a DJI drone in a government building or newsroom, and seal the exits.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (BI5O2)

You lie!!!

Posted by: suddenly unemployed rape dogs at July 11, 2025 03:44 PM (ULPxl)

113 Long, long showers, with lots of hot, soapy water.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (Riz8t)

No soap on a rope for him, no sir. Just a lot of 'ooops!' And girlish giggling.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 03:44 PM (zZu0s)

114 >>Democrats are always fighting something

Usually reality.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 03:44 PM (viF8m)

115 There are literally thousands of things you can do to entertain your students, soldiers, coworkers etc...

Hosting a drag queen show is activism.

Of all of the available choices, choosing drag queen shows or story hour or whatever shows that you have an agenda. These choices aren't random, they are calculated by the destroyers of society.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 11, 2025 03:44 PM (tYXcB)

116 10 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (W2Pud)

Used to work for a hospital. We would eat lunch in the cafeteria. These three clowns would dress up like doctors with white coats and big red noses and giant stethoscope that would honk or spray water. Surgery booties over their giant shoes. Frigging horrifying. I swear the could scare a kid to death.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 03:44 PM (OA79/)

117 so stupid people like John Reed misread the Kornilov maneuver against Lenin, as a coup attempt against Kerensky,
Kerensky wasn't that swift either it turns out, Kornilov could have forestalled the Bolshevik's operation if not canceled it entirely,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:45 PM (bXbFr)

118 Cory Booker is still around ?!

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 03:45 PM (g47mK)

119 110 A new proposal from the Center for American Progress, the party's leading policy shop, calls for expanding legal immigration while embracing ideas long championed by conservatives, including making it harder for migrants to qualify for asylum.
========================
Republicans should introduce such a bill post haste, because Democrats will NEVER vote for this, and- because they won't - they will then firmly be the "anti-immigrant party".
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 03:43 PM (stfyU)

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The Economist's new cover story is about how the asylum system is broken.

I wonder why they didn't write the story under Biden's tenure...?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:45 PM (GBKbO)

120 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (W2Pud)

Yeah. Almost as much as mimes.

Posted by: javems at July 11, 2025 03:45 PM (8I4hW)

121 94 My one reservation about it being DeSantis (besides that he's clearly having a lot of fun as governor right now) is The Empress' admonition to never trust a JAG.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:38 PM (2ocoG)

I don't want Florida to be de-deSantised until his term is over or nearly so. too many threats.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (8avO+)
______________________________

I'd support someone like Clay Higgins. Unfortunately, we can't afford to remove any more congressmen for numbers reasons. Higgins, however, is a bit of a bad ass with a solid law enforcement history and did work within the Louisiana DOJ. His attitude would fit the goals right now.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (dIske)

122
Used to work for a hospital. We would eat lunch in the cafeteria. These three clowns would dress up like doctors with white coats and big red noses and giant stethoscope that would honk or spray water. Surgery booties over their giant shoes. Frigging horrifying. I swear the could scare a kid to death.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

==============

That was a sketch in Reno 911.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (UmB+t)

123 Trump learned from BLM and antifa bullshit. Ignore the local government - if they attack federal officials or faculties, arrest them on the spot. With extreme prejudice.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (gDhA9)

124
I am a clown and board president of the nonprofit, Clowns Without Borders.

There are borders. They are invisible.

Posted by: The talking mime at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (63Dwl)

125 As anyone who's read my comments knows, I have been a longtime, vocal proponent of ravenous jungle cats in politics and media.

If I had my way, there would be a weekly "Catcast" on YouTube where me and my crew go to a different city, put a selection of feline killing machines from their local zoo on a three day fast, release them and a DJI drone in a government building or newsroom, and seal the exits.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (BI5O2)

It is systematic oppression that the views of deadly cat releasers are shunned, even repressed.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (8avO+)

126 We all float down here.

Posted by: Pennywise at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (viF8m)

127 92 Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting

He added, “I’m going to continue to fight. I don’t care if this president calls me out every day, mean tweets me, threatens me."
Posted by: SMOD
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Booker auditioning for a soap opera?

Posted by: scampydog at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (2bFN5)

128 I don't get why lions get so, well, lionized.

Tigers and leopards (regular, snow, and clouded) are all way cooler than lions. Hell, even jaguars are cooler than lions.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)

129 There are literally thousands of things you can do to entertain your students, soldiers, coworkers etc...

Hosting a drag queen show is activism.

In my area the AWFL are obsessed with getting kids to draq shows. The most risque the better. One local unitarian church had a youth oriented draq show followed by an "all ages dance"

Because as we all know have pre-teens dance with middle ages trannies is completely normal.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (t0Rmr)

130
Investigators are still working to discover a motive for the killings."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (UmB+t)

I'd suggest she wanted to kill her parents as a motive.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (8avO+)

Hey hey stop ripping me off.

Posted by: Zombie Norm MacDonald at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (OA79/)

131 Tigers and leopards (regular, snow, and clouded) are all way cooler than lions. Hell, even jaguars are cooler than lions.

Cheetahs are fagz, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (Riz8t)

132 To clarify, I will eat your fucking face off for free.

Posted by: Cocaine Bear at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (2UnvF)

133 speaking of Clowns, T Bone's act gets real old real fast,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (bXbFr)

134 I hate fucking clowns.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (W2Pud)

Yeah. Almost as much as mimes.
Posted by: javems at July 11, 2025 03:45 PM (8I4hW)

Mimes are foreign, illegal alien clowns. From France, even.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (8avO+)

135 I don't care if Donald Trump has loud sex with my wife, I won't stop fighting. Like the headboard during their aggressive lovemaking, I will not be silenced. I will be heard even over their ecstatic guttural animal noises of abandon and sexual pleasure. Like my wife hollering under Donald Trump and his furiously pumping hips, I will be satisfied!

Posted by: Sexually Frustrated Democrat Cuck of the Week at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (DZBap)

136 You lie!!!
Posted by: suddenly unemployed rape dogs at July 11, 2025 03:44 PM (ULPxl)

Worry not. Your jobs are safe. You, and the knouters. You're highly trained. The cats are low skill workers used for simple tasks.

America will not run out of highly ranked special cases who need your not-so-tender attentions any time soon.

In fact, we need to staff up!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (BI5O2)

137 That is the thing - the Dem coalition is wildly unstable. LGBTQ and Muslims in the same group? One will eventually murder the other. Likely the Muslims will murder the alphabet people.

You think taking down your flags is a problem? Idiots.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (gDhA9)

138 >>> 130
Investigators are still working to discover a motive for the killings."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (UmB+t)

I'd suggest she wanted to kill her parents as a motive.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (8avO+)

Hey hey stop ripping me off.
Posted by: Zombie Norm MacDonald at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (OA79/)

I'd suggest she wanted to kill her parents as a motive.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (ULPxl)

139 Moron Bombdaddy >> Team Gentrification

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

140 136
America will not run out of highly ranked special cases who need your not-so-tender attentions any time soon.

In fact, we need to staff up!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (BI5O2)

=====

Are you promising them managerial positions?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

141 >>I hate fucking clowns.
__
Yeah, me too. But sometimes they're the only ones around at closing time.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (bNf8H)

142 There are borders. They are invisible.
Posted by: The talking mime

Oh, so that's what an invisible barrier looks like.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (77rzZ)

143
Anyone who takes children to drag shows should be prosecuted for child abuse.

Posted by: four seasons at July 11, 2025 03:49 PM (3ek7K)

144 Bongino is funny-looking and should go back to podcasting. He has a face made for radio.
DeSantis is having too much success in Florida to want to go to DC, where it takes hammers on brick walls to get anything done.
He'd make a good Senator for Florida. I don't know when the next seat is available.

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:49 PM (AOsQT)

145 Used to work for a hospital. We would eat lunch in the cafeteria. These three clowns would dress up like doctors with white coats and big red noses and giant stethoscope that would honk or spray water. Surgery booties over their giant shoes. Frigging horrifying. I swear the could scare a kid to death.
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless

==============

That was a sketch in Reno 911.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:46 PM (UmB+t)

Well in real life it ain't funny at all.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 03:49 PM (OA79/)

146 because they broke it,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:49 PM (bXbFr)

147 In my area the AWFL are obsessed with getting kids to draq shows. The most risque the better. One local unitarian church had a youth oriented draq show followed by an "all ages dance"

Because as we all know have pre-teens dance with middle ages trannies is completely normal.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (t0Rmr)

I expect the effect of that is developing a lot of concealed trans hate into the kids.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:49 PM (8avO+)

148 "When you have the most Latino district in the country outside of Puerto Rico vote for Trump, that should be a wake-up call for the Democratic Party," said Representative Vicente Gonzalez of Texas, who saw Mr. Trump win every county in his district along the border with Mexico. "This is a Democratic district that's been blue for over a century."

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 03:49 PM (RHGPo)

149 "Team Gentrification" ... does Whackeem even know what "gentrification" even means? It's a positive word. I means taking dogshit sewer ghettos and making them nicer. Yea, I know liberals use the word negatively, but nobody seriously doesn't want gentrification.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)

150 Bongino is funny-looking and should go back to podcasting. He has a face made for radio.
DeSantis is having too much success in Florida to want to go to DC, where it takes hammers on brick walls to get anything done.
He'd make a good Senator for Florida. I don't know when the next seat is available.
Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:49 PM (AOsQT)

He should find another state and go clean it up too.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:50 PM (8avO+)

151 I'd suggest she wanted to kill her parents as a motive.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:42 PM (8avO+)

Hey hey stop ripping me off.
Posted by: Zombie Norm MacDonald at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (OA79/)

I'd suggest she wanted to kill her parents as a motive.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (ULPxl)

ITS FUNNY CAUSE AMY SCHUMER STEALS JOKES.

Posted by: Ben Rothliesbergergler at July 11, 2025 03:51 PM (OA79/)

152 I hate fucking clowns.
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Oh I don't know. Rodeo clowns are pretty hot.

Posted by: Pete Bootyjudge at July 11, 2025 03:51 PM (paSBy)

153
What gave it away, the missing minute of footage, the mysteriously moving garbage can, jump cuts of people entering and exiting the tier?
Posted by: Thomas Bender

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[freeze frame]
"Poochie died on the way back to his home planet."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:51 PM (UmB+t)

154 I still get Dan Bongino mixed up with Danny Bonaduce sometimes.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:52 PM (77rzZ)

155 154 Me too.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 03:52 PM (bvNHo)

156 James Howard Kunstler speculates in his column today that Epstein may still be alive.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:53 PM (77rzZ)

157 Is gentrification worse than fascism or is it the other way around?

Posted by: PG at July 11, 2025 03:53 PM (gQbO4)

158 "Team Gentrification" ... does Whackeem even know what "gentrification" even means? It's a positive word. I means taking dogshit sewer ghettos and making them nicer. Yea, I know liberals use the word negatively, but nobody seriously doesn't want gentrification.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)

I think if they are right and the Commie wants gentrification its a huge threat to the current corrupt urban decay freaks. They'll all get voted out of office and purged of cushy jobs. Personally I think this dude is worse than they are. But I'm still hoping for both to lose.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:53 PM (8avO+)

159 LA Mayor Karen Bass: The LA riots "never happened."

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 03:53 PM (RHGPo)

160 I don’t like clowns, they’re creepy and scary

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 03:54 PM (jgmnb)

161 I don't get why lions get so, well, lionized.

Tigers and leopards (regular, snow, and clouded) are all way cooler than lions. Hell, even jaguars are cooler than lions.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)
___________

"Fuck you!"

-- Mufasa

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:54 PM (iFTx/)

162 Her follow up comment was removed from publication. It was, "I have learned nothing from this experience and will vote for Muslims whenever possible because Republicans want to put me in a burka."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Bwahahahahahahaha! So true!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 03:54 PM (8v2yu)

163 willow
362 Never forget that the very term "bureaucracy" was devised as a bitterly sarcastic observation that our real rulers that lord over us are not the wealthy (plutocracy) or the general populace (democracy) or the social elites (aristocracy), but instead the faceless, soulless government functionaries who actually are the ones with the hands on the levers of power, supposedly at the behest of and taking orders from the the people or the elite, but who actually ling ago went rogue and realized that they, the ones with their hands on the levers, actually control everything, asnd no ne can stop them.

And then came Trump.
Posted by: zombie
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The only two people who knew how much gold the Spaniards took out of the New World were the accountants and the ships captains.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 03:54 PM (Ri+6K)

164 Bongino is one of those eggplant Italians that Dennis Hopper told Christopher Walken about in True Romance.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (XV/Pl)

165 >James Howard Kunstler speculates in his column today that Epstein may still be alive.
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THEY SAVED HIS BRAIN]/i]

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (AOsQT)

166 LA Mayor Karen Bass: The LA riots "never happened."

Gdflkdieosnff'eseopfjo

Posted by: Reginald Denny at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (Riz8t)

167 Cory Booker is actually taunting Trump to send him to jail. Brer Booker wants to be thrown in that briar patch/ prison shower

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (JtH6i)

168 Back when /b/ was a thing, there was this poster who would create threads with pics of sexy female clowns. Made the idea of fucking clowns seem marginally less demented and sad.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (cBvpj)

169 I expect the effect of that is developing a lot of concealed trans hate into the kids.
Posted by: Oldcat

I suspect that when you meet the Colander Face Mask guy in the wasteland, you won't have to ask his origin story. You'll just know it started with a troon event at his church.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (mlg/3)

170 The Calgary zoo has snow leopards in a huge outdoor enclosure.

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I call them "Hunter leopards."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 03:56 PM (L/fGl)

171 The only two people who knew how much gold the Spaniards took out of the New World were the accountants and the ships captains.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 03:54 PM (Ri+6K)
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and the accountants never made it out of Mexico

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 03:56 PM (stfyU)

172 Does anybody else remember the story in the Daily Mail about the Secret Service snipers that were on another roof and claimed that they were being shot at? The story can no longer be found.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 03:56 PM (HFcKg)

173 I don't get why lions get so, well, lionized.

Tigers and leopards (regular, snow, and clouded) are all way cooler than lions. Hell, even jaguars are cooler than lions.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:47 PM (77rzZ)
___________

"Fuck you!"

-- Mufasa
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:54 PM (iFTx/)

Lions have the manes, they have a pride structure which appeals to Kings and Sultans. And they live closer to Europe.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:56 PM (8avO+)

174 I feel like ocelots are not getting their due in this thread.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 03:57 PM (cBvpj)

175 As big cats go, I like the cougar.

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:57 PM (AOsQT)

176 Tigers and leopards (regular, snow, and clouded) are all way cooler than lions. Hell, even jaguars are cooler than lions.
Posted by: Bulg

BABOO~!

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2025 03:57 PM (mlg/3)

177 174 I feel like ocelots are not getting their due in this thread.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 03:57 PM (cBvpj)

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bear with asymmetrical balls confirmed for being Sterling Archer.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

178 Fuck all y'all.

Posted by: A Lynx at July 11, 2025 03:58 PM (2UnvF)

179 Cory Booker is actually taunting Trump to send him to jail. Brer Booker wants to be thrown in that briar patch/ prison shower
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (JtH6i)

he would have to do something first. Not his specialty.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:58 PM (8avO+)

180 I feel like ocelots are not getting their due in this thread.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Well, I'm just talking about the big cats.

Ocelots and margays are pretty cool. Pallas' cat from Central Asia is the coolest small cat.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:58 PM (77rzZ)

181 >>> 172 Does anybody else remember the story in the Daily Mail about the Secret Service snipers that were on another roof and claimed that they were being shot at? The story can no longer be found.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 03:56 PM (HFcKg)

I don't remember a Daily Mail article specifically but I do remember seeing that mentioned a couple places.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 03:59 PM (ULPxl)

182 Tigers should definitely be the Kings of the Jungle. They were robbed of the title by a cat with a blonde blow out.

Posted by: jmel at July 11, 2025 03:59 PM (bVhJi)

183 The Justice Democrats, before getting the Squad elected, had a 501c3 called something like “Remake 538.”

Spoiler alert: they don’t just want to replace Jeffries, they want to replace every member of Congress.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (Hkcdp)

184 No more Kangz.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (bvNHo)

185 A tiger? In Africa?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (2UnvF)

186 182 Tigers should definitely be the Kings of the Jungle. They were robbed of the title by a cat with a blonde blow out.
Posted by: jmel at July 11, 2025 03:59 PM (bVhJi)

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Lions don't even live in the jungle!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (GBKbO)

187 Hey! They're getting into his rice bowl!

Bill Melugin@BillMelugin_
NEW: The President of Glasshouse Farms, which had two cannabis farms raided by ICE & Border Patrol in Camarillo yesterday, has donated thousands of dollars to Democrats in California, including $10,000 to Gov. Gavin Newsom in 2018.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (L/fGl)

188 And the commies will KILL the liberals. In fact, as soon as possible. Before they kill the conservatives even.

Why?

because the liberals represent a softer alternative to what they are offering. They need the choice to be defined.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (gDhA9)

189 172 Does anybody else remember the story in the Daily Mail about the Secret Service snipers that were on another roof and claimed that they were being shot at? The story can no longer be found.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 03:56 PM

I do. It's a vague memory, something about maybe a shooter on a water tower?

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (CueAq)

190 Ocelots and margays are pretty cool. Pallas' cat from Central Asia is the coolest small cat.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:58 PM (77rzZ)

They look like the last ones to show up in the rental shop for fur suits. Not the right size, meh patterns and color.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:01 PM (8avO+)

191 187 Hey! They're getting into his rice bowl!

Bill Melugin@BillMelugin_
NEW: The President of Glasshouse Farms, which had two cannabis farms raided by ICE & Border Patrol in Camarillo yesterday, has donated thousands of dollars to Democrats in California, including $10,000 to Gov. Gavin Newsom in 2018.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM

Now do Helios Dayspring and the SLO county supervisor he paid off that killed himself with a cocaine overdose.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (CueAq)

192 Mamdani people will destroy the Hakeem Jeffries of the world. They have to. They want to be the only possible alternative to Trump.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (gDhA9)

193 As big cats go, I like the cougar.
Posted by: Don Black

Found from Alaska to Patagonia, in nearly every habitat. They are certainly adaptable.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)

194 Helena Handbasket, I remember seeing it and then went back to try to find it. There is a new documentary out that claims there were two shooters in Butler and the second shooter was shooting at the secret service agents. The agents said they were indeed being fired upon.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (HFcKg)

195 The Justice Democrats, before getting the Squad elected, had a 501c3 called something like “Remake 538.”

Spoiler alert: they don’t just want to replace Jeffries, they want to replace every member of Congress.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 04:00 PM (Hkcdp)

Not sure their appeal will spread to the Midwest.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:03 PM (8avO+)

196 Are you promising them managerial positions?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (GBKbO)

Knouters manage the rape dogs. Rape dogs guard the killer cat habitats when they're on R&R from field duty. The cats play in their enclosures and feed on entertainers between their fast days.

It's the natural order.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:03 PM (BI5O2)

197 That’s cruel to be so hard on that Admiral for doing his best to uphold the Traditions of the Navy - those traditions being Rum, Sodomy, and the Lash.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 04:03 PM (Hlfhp)

198 The second shooter was firing from the tree line.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 04:04 PM (HFcKg)

199 Mano-a-Mano, a tiger would destroy a lion, but lions don't fight Mano-a-Mano, they fight in groups.

A tiger might get the upper hand one on one but would quickly be ripped apart by the pride.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:04 PM (XV/Pl)

200 149 "Team Gentrification" ... does Whackeem even know what "gentrification" even means? It's a positive word. I means taking dogshit sewer ghettos and making them nicer. Yea, I know liberals use the word negatively, but nobody seriously doesn't want gentrification.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:50 PM (iFTx/)

They're saying the character of a neighborhood changes when a bunch of upper middle class white people move in, and that that's a negative thing.

But if you point out that the inverse is true, too, you're a racist.

For example, a generation or two ago, Queens was almost entirely made up of white Europeans. Now it's "the most diverse county in the world". Queens did not get nicer.

But if a person of Greek descent says "all these Egyptians moving in ruined Astoria" that would be racist. But if an Egyptian person says "all of these white kids from Manhattan moving to Astoria is ruining the neighborhood," that is to be celebrated, and the white people are probably racist anyways.

It's a strange phenomena.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:04 PM (uCjyK)

201 In between thunderstorms at the cabin. I checked, we're on high ground and the stream flows *out* of the lake below us.

I've always wanted an ocelot but they would make terrible house pets.

Posted by: pookysgirl, cat fan at July 11, 2025 04:04 PM (PPB1b)

202 There was a mountain lion walking down a street in Rochester NY last night. There's a video and the reactions from the locals are classic. We've had sightings in the Catskills but they are probably transient.
As for big cats , jaguars are scary cool.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 04:04 PM (JtH6i)

203 ***compilation of the physical attacks and ambushes
---

Pushing back on those thugs is silly. Walnut option first then if they persist, escalate.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 04:04 PM (Ri+6K)

204 As big cats go, I like the cougar.
Posted by: Don Black

Found from Alaska to Patagonia, in nearly every habitat. They are certainly adaptable.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)

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They can be found in most bars too.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 11, 2025 04:05 PM (2UnvF)

205 175 As big cats go, I like the cougar.
Posted by: Don Black
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Wild or wine bar?

Posted by: scampydog at July 11, 2025 04:05 PM (2bFN5)

206 Helena Handbasket, I remember seeing it and then went back to try to find it. There is a new documentary out that claims there were two shooters in Butler and the second shooter was shooting at the secret service agents. The agents said they were indeed being fired upon.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (HFcKg)

And then they never said it again, despite the victim being President and all. Okay.....'

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:05 PM (8avO+)

207 [Nebraska State] Senator Megan Hunt@NebraskaMegan
Absolutely. Fuck ICE and everyone who supports them. These thugs are America’s gestapo, our modern national shame, and must be stopped at every opportunity.
. . . .
Whatever public safety benefits ICE claims to provide are undermined by the damage it has done to communities and to the country’s moral authority. Saying “Abolish ICE” is not extreme. What’s extreme is a supporting a government agency that behaves like a domestic Gestapo. Idiot

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:05 PM (L/fGl)

208 The Dems problem is the big tent.

If you don't have an overall unifying theme, you get the trannies, Zohran and Face Eating Leopards who each have to be coddled and given freebies.

As opposed to small gov't and national security (cough, cough).

Even Carville is sick of the in your face identity politics. Each one of those above is against the white male and if you don't continually re-affirm that - and a their specific mommy issues - you'll piss off one other "group."

I don't see how the Ds become a large party again. They'll squeak by in some elections. But I grew up when the house was 300-135.

Rs won't achieve that. But at least we have an opportunity to grow. Unless we get Charlie Browned again ( looking at you St Ronnie and 1986 immigration reform).

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 04:05 PM (FxH7T)

209 As big cats go, I like the cougar.
Posted by: Don Black

Found from Alaska to Patagonia, in nearly every habitat. They are certainly adaptable.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (77rzZ)
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and in most bars or cocktail parties too

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 04:05 PM (stfyU)

210 It's a strange phenomena.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Or even a phenomenon.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 04:06 PM (77rzZ)

211 179 Cory Booker is actually taunting Trump to send him to jail. Brer Booker wants to be thrown in that briar patch/ prison shower
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 03:55 PM (JtH6i)

he would have to do something first. Not his specialty.
Posted by: Oldcat
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Jails are prime dating opportunities for a fiercely heterosexual Senator Booker.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:06 PM (ctrM5)

212 Umm, mebbe clean up the trash piled on top of the tel-com boxes

@Caruzkcab 40m
Breaking: Just got a statewide 911 outage alert on my phone for Pennsylvania statewide

Posted by: Archer at July 11, 2025 04:06 PM (mlg/3)

213 194 Helena Handbasket, I remember seeing it and then went back to try to find it. There is a new documentary out that claims there were two shooters in Butler and the second shooter was shooting at the secret service agents. The agents said they were indeed being fired upon.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 04:02 PM (HFcKg)

That's another subject we're supposed to be incurious about.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:06 PM (uCjyK)

214
The snow leopard is one of the world's most beautiful animals. They don't eat people's faces.

Tell those lazy leopards to get their asses in gear.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 04:06 PM (y9nCu)

215 As big cats go, I like the cougar.
Posted by: Don Black

A leopard can drag twice it's weight up a tree, but a cougar can drag frat boy half her age into bed.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 04:06 PM (8v2yu)

216 Lions don't even live in the jungle!

Incorrect.

Posted by: The Tokens at July 11, 2025 04:07 PM (Riz8t)

217 @Polymarket . 1h

_ The DOJ released footage from Epstein’s cell was edited with Adobe Premiere Pro, stitched from 2 clips
— WIRED

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 04:07 PM (Ri+6K)

218 Oldcat, they are saying it in this documentary. This may all be bullshit.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 04:07 PM (HFcKg)

219 Cheetahs are akin to big house cats.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at July 11, 2025 04:08 PM (hHC7e)

220 Weird how the “Gestapo” found ten or so unaccompanied minors at the pot farm yesterday, and will make sure they get home. Monstrous, saving kids from essentially slavery!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 04:08 PM (Hkcdp)

221 Some clouded leopards are sabertooths.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 04:08 PM (77rzZ)

222 OT- This is so great. Victor Davis Hanson speech on American virtues - The Commencement Speech at Hillsdale College 2025:

https://tinyurl.com/yc7a4vn2

It's kind of long, but really worth the effort if you have time. Thank you, Dr. Hanson.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 04:08 PM (2GCMq)

223 Wait wait, are you saying the asylum system...is broken?

I was assured for the last 10 years it was working perfectly, and no changes were possible or necessary.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 04:08 PM (gDhA9)

224
A new proposal from the Center for American Progress, the party's leading policy shop, calls for expanding legal immigration while embracing ideas long championed by conservatives, including making it harder for migrants to qualify for asylum.

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Utterly fake. A Trojan Horse.

Excessive legal immigration is already a problem. These communists want to expand it into an even bigger problem to compensate for the loss of illegal immigration.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 11, 2025 04:08 PM (QwK6F)

225 Oh, funny story from last night: Driving in the rain and a young deer crossed the road in front of me.... right by the John Deere dealership! It's the only time in my life I've wanted a dashcam.

Posted by: pookysgirl didn't veer but used her brakes at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (PPB1b)

226 I've had Glasshouse Farms product (Lilac Diesel and Blue Dream). It was pretty good. Now I know that child slave labor is the key.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (KAi1n)

227 I don't see how the Ds become a large party again. They'll squeak by in some elections. But I grew up when the house was 300-135.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 04:05 PM (FxH7T)

I would imagine the long term plan is to change the demographics so much that the R's are the party of straight white people, and everyone else is the D's.

It will make it easier for the Deep State to continue the divide and conquer path they're on.

As Joe Biden said, whites will soon be a minority and that's a good thing. It's the ultimate source of our strength and who we are.

https://tinyurl.com/4c4msytm

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (uCjyK)

228 The second spitter…. Roger McDowell on the gravelly road

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (lepZb)

229 The snow leopard is one of the world's most beautiful animals. They don't eat people's faces.

Tell those lazy leopards to get their asses in gear.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 04:06 PM (y9nCu)

That's what they want you to think.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (8avO+)

230 >Cory Booker: I Don’t Care If Trump Throws Me in Jail, I Won’t Stop Fighting

Don't you know who I am? I'm Cory "incredibly heterosexual " Booker dammit.

Heyyyyyyyy. yeahhhhhh

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (FxH7T)

231 Been saying for a while it's gonna be a hoot to watch the Left throw their precious women, gays and trannies to the iSlime wolves the moment it becomes "necessary".

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (Qr870)

232 I don't get why lions get so, well, lionized.

==

they are a bunch of poseurs

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 04:09 PM (g47mK)

233
I don't see how the Ds become a large party again. They'll squeak by in some elections. But I grew up when the house was 300-135.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal

==============

The identity politics is another one they are constitutionally incapable of changing on. Again, they can't articulate to themselves why they do it. Ask a lefty about individual rights and they'll go FREEP-brszt!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:10 PM (UmB+t)

234 The DOD has yanked the nomination, for head of the 7th fleet, of an admiral who held a drag show on his aircraft carrier.
===

It's not gay when you are away.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:10 PM (/lPRQ)

235 @julie_kelly2
2h
Sources confirm to me the blow up between Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi is very real. This has been brewing for four months and came to a head at the White House on Wednesday.

He has not been in the office since.

Most of the frustration at FBI relates to her handling of Epstein disclosures and disputes between FBI and Bondi about how to proceed.

Bongino appears ready to resign imminently if Bondi remains in office
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at the same time
@RealAlexJones . 1h

_ AG Pam Bondi To Take The Blame For The Epstein Case Whitewash Political Firestorm Before Her Ultimate Removal, According To FBI & WH Intel Sources

PLUS, FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino Will Resign Soon, But Kash Patel Will Stay On Head Of Agency

"Pam Bondi Will Be Trump's Sacrificial Lamb On This"
----

Is it real or is it just Alex?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 04:11 PM (Ri+6K)

236 "Lakota Man" has gone full Speaks With Forked Tongue Warren!

https://is.gd/31EFFT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:11 PM (L/fGl)

237 Senator Megan Hunt
@NebraskaMegan

Absolutely. Fuck ICE and everyone who supports them. These thugs are America’s gestapo, our modern national shame, and must be stopped at every opportunity.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:11 PM (NpAcC)

238 199 Mano-a-Mano, a tiger would destroy a lion, but lions don't fight Mano-a-Mano, they fight in groups.

A tiger might get the upper hand one on one but would quickly be ripped apart by the pride.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 04:04 PM (XV/Pl)
___________________________

I was kind of surprised by this. The bear wasn't having any of this tiger. This is a Sloth Bear. They make Honey Badgers look like pussies.

https://tinyurl.com/5n6bbd67

On a side note. the guy commenting is Forest Galante. He's insane himself. But, I highly recommend his content.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 04:11 PM (dIske)

239
Is it real or is it just Alex?
Posted by: Braenyard

============

Why would two people be quitting? Bongino threatens to quit because of Bondi, while Bondi is being squeezed out?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (UmB+t)

240 Lions are the lamest of monster cats... but they still kick ass.

You guys should look up big cats making kills. Videos are pretty rare; these animals are stealthy. But it's always satisfying to watch.

It's one of the reasons I love owning a house cat. A lot of them are duds who don't enjoy killing, and they're fine. But if you get a good one, they're still wild at heart. You can open your back fence, sit quietly drinking beer, and watch them hunt.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (BI5O2)

241 Hey Ace, did you know that Wet Leg has a new album? I think it was released today or very recently at least. As a wet leg enjoyer I you might like to know.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (cduTK)

242 John Kerry realizes, years too late, that the President's "Job One" is to defend the border.

John Kerry leading from behind.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (/lPRQ)

243 Quick Hits seems early today. The boss must be working something really juicy.

He's got a hot date tonight that he's going to hang shelves for. Hopefully she doesn't stand under them.
Posted by: Ian S.

Is her name Felicity? I think they got married. She's taken his name.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (77rzZ)

244 Oldcat, they are saying it in this documentary. This may all be bullshit.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 04:07 PM (HFcKg)

I'm just pointing out the flaw. There is no reason with Trump in office for a ham and egger SS grunt to NOT come out and say that fire was coming from another shooter.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:13 PM (8avO+)

245 Is it real or is it just Alex?
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 04:11 PM (Ri+6K)

Hmm... Hard to say. Media / Deep State does make up a lot of fake palace intrigue, and Alex Jones is known to just throw out everything he hears, so could be fake.

But if real, does this mean Bongino will come out and tell us the actual truth, or nah?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:13 PM (uCjyK)

246 >>There was a mountain lion walking down a street in Rochester NY last night.

How was his hair?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 04:14 PM (viF8m)

247 John Kerry realizes, years too late, that the President's "Job One" is to defend the border.

John Kerry leading from behind.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (/lPRQ)

John Kerry realizing that the grift is gonna be going elsewhere from now on. These new dudes don't give a crap about warming.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:14 PM (8avO+)

248 This is a Sloth Bear. They make Honey Badgers look like pussies.
Posted by: Orson

Baloo was a sloth bear. They are not to be underestimated.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 04:14 PM (77rzZ)

249 I'm actually surprised the Left haven't begun going after the Capitol Police for protecting the Police State. Only a matter of time.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 04:14 PM (Qr870)

250 242 John Kerry realizes, years too late, that the President's "Job One" is to defend the border.

John Kerry leading from behind.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (/lPRQ)

John Kerry is Deep State through and through, so if he's saying that, I imagine we're going to see a slight shift to the Juan McCain position from the D's.

You know? "Build the danged wall" during campaign season and "we need to pass ~~comprehensive immigration reform!~~ amnesty" while in office.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 04:15 PM (uCjyK)

251 As big cats go, I like the cougar.
Posted by: Don Black

Everybody likes cougars when they're two or three margaritas into happy hour.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 04:16 PM (L/fGl)

252 82 Rumors on X: Dan Bongino is threatening to quit over the Epstein files. DeSantis is being considered to replace Bondi as AG.

So Bongino's threatening to quit and they're gonna can Bondi in response? I could accept that.

My one reservation about it being DeSantis (besides that he's clearly having a lot of fun as governor right now) is The Empress' admonition to never trust a JAG.
Posted by: Ian S.
-----
I doubt Trump is going to appoint DeSantis as AG. Loomer is the source of that and she is more wrong than right.

Trump appointed Bondi because he does not need a repeat of his first term so he will appoint someone that has loyalty to him, not to their future prospects.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:16 PM (ctrM5)

253 It's one of the reasons I love owning a house cat. A lot of them are duds who don't enjoy killing, and they're fine. But if you get a good one, they're still wild at heart. You can open your back fence, sit quietly drinking beer, and watch them hunt.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

===

My girl's cat caught a bunny, brought into the garage to my feet, ate the entire head, then went back out.

Good cat.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (/lPRQ)

254 Post quickie

nood

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (cduTK)

255 The white tigers are my favorites.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (NpAcC)

256 Is it real or is it just Alex?
Posted by: Braenyard
========
I don't think Alex is plugged into this administration.

Basically a certain segment of conservatives want Bondi out and the Epstein episode is a good excuse to do so.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 04:18 PM (ctrM5)

257 ...former city council member, after her Muslim successors...

Read.it folks.
Ought to scare the crap out of us all.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 04:19 PM (W/lyH)

258 It's one of the reasons I love owning a house cat. A lot of them are duds who don't enjoy killing, and they're fine. But if you get a good one, they're still wild at heart. You can open your back fence, sit quietly drinking beer, and watch them hunt.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (BI5O2)

My indoor ones hunt each other or me. My oldest will rush from the breakfast bar top at the kitchen across the stairs passing thru the railing to sit on my briefcase. When I go back to the kitchen he races me back to the breakfast bar to beat me.

This morning one of the other cats intercepted him and pounced between on the stairs and chased him upstairs a ways

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (8avO+)

259 [Nebraska State] Senator Megan Hunt@NebraskaMegan
Absolutely. Fuck ICE and everyone who supports them. These thugs are America’s gestapo, our modern national shame, and must be stopped at every opportunity.
===

Gestapo - most infamous for tracking down ethnics sneaking into Nazi Germany to sponge of their welfare state.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (/lPRQ)

260 Been gone all day... did we talk about the new Canada ad from the French provinces? About hugging it out?

It's clever and brilliant, and an important message for these times. But I can't but wonder, knowing how liberal those provinces are, that's it's just a cynical ploy for tourism versus how they actually feel.

"Hello, stupid Americans. We secretly hate you, but please give us your money! Here's a hug!"

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (gWBY1)

261 Not only have Americans tuned out the main stream media, but the most loyal, brain dead adherents of the main stream media, Liberal White Do Gooder Boomers, are dying off.

Good riddance.

Posted by: Old Fart Boomer at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (R/m4+)

262 They're saying the character of a neighborhood changes when a bunch of upper middle class white people move in, and that that's a negative thing.

But if you point out that the inverse is true, too, you're a racist.

There's a big blowup going around social media right now because Carnival Cruise Lines issued a new code of conduct for passengers that targets a recent explosion in ghetto blacks blasting loud music, running around the halls all night, and having large group fistfights and the occasional shootout.

Naturally this new code is considered racist by those it targets because every behavior it prohibits has been done only by black people.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (2ocoG)

263 I was stalked all night by a mountain lion once when I was 14 or 15. I think it was probably an adolescent male because I had a fire and I was taking potshots in the dark at it to keep it away. Older mountain lions are more wary than that.

But I think it's why I love killer cats.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (BI5O2)

264 My girl's cat caught a bunny, brought into the garage to my feet, ate the entire head, then went back out.

Good cat.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 11, 2025 04:17 PM (/lPRQ)

hm. Pretty much all cats I knew would eat all BUT the head and leave it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:21 PM (8avO+)

265 I don’t like clowns, they’re creepy and scary
Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 03:54 PM

Now that's just hurtful.

Posted by: Pennywise at July 11, 2025 04:22 PM (kgE5c)

266 Been gone all day... did we talk about the new Canada ad from the French provinces? About hugging it out?

It's clever and brilliant, and an important message for these times. But I can't but wonder, knowing how liberal those provinces are, that's it's just a cynical ploy for tourism versus how they actually feel.

"Hello, stupid Americans. We secretly hate you, but please give us your money! Here's a hug!"
Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (gWBY1)

Last time a liberal encouraged hugging it was for Italians to hug COVID infected Chinese to show confidence

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:23 PM (8avO+)

267 Last time a liberal encouraged hugging it was for Italians to hug COVID infected Chinese to show confidence

Didn't Nancy Pelosi do that too?

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (2ocoG)

268
@joeroganhq
Commentary account
Hillary Clinton: "If social media doesn’t moderate content, then we lose total control."

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (AOsQT)

269 @DerrickEvans4WV
·
5h
🚨BREAKING: President Trump just announced that Pete Hegseth is now the Secretary of WAR.

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (AOsQT)

270 would imagine the long term plan is to change the demographics so much that the R's are the party of straight white people, and everyone else is the D's.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Maybe. The Brothers and Senors are never voting tranny or Muslim. And the Asians are coming around

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (FxH7T)

271
"Hello, stupid Americans. We secretly hate you, but please give us your money! Here's a hug!"
Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (gWBY1)

_________

Can I just send a check?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:25 PM (HZi96)

272 Last time a liberal encouraged hugging it was for Italians to hug COVID infected Chinese to show confidence

Didn't Nancy Pelosi do that too?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (2ocoG)

She did encourage patronage there, not sure about hugging. Both were following their true master's orders.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (8avO+)

273
Senator Megan Hunt@NebraskaMegan
Absolutely. Fuck ICE and everyone who supports them.

________

Yeah, you tell 'em, girlboss! Use the F-sharp!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 04:26 PM (HZi96)

274 Seeing all over X that Bongino says he'll resign if Bondi doesn't.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (2UnvF)

275 @DerrickEvans4WV
·
5h
🚨BREAKING: President Trump just announced that Pete Hegseth is now the Secretary of WAR.
Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (AOsQT)

I am reading of a story where the Earth's space government had renamed it from Defense to Aggression!

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 04:27 PM (8avO+)

276 Maybe. The Brothers and Senors are never voting tranny or Muslim. And the Asians are coming around
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 04:24 PM (FxH7T)

I was posting that in another thread. Nothing makes both of those groups run away like letting the Mad Black Women (Jasmine Crockett, KBJ, Stacy Abram’s) take over the Party.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 04:30 PM (Hlfhp)

277 Seeing all over X that Bongino says he'll resign if Bondi doesn't.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 11, 2025 04:27
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Yeah, saw that. But never saw what Dan said or a source for that comment.

Posted by: olddog in mo at July 11, 2025 04:36 PM (hoCmQ)

278 ============

Why would two people be quitting? Bongino threatens to quit because of Bondi, while Bondi is being squeezed out?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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They've got a problem that has to be resolved.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 04:37 PM (Ri+6K)

279 But I think it's why I love killer cats.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 11, 2025 04:20 PM (BI5O2)

Everyone loves a cougar!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 04:38 PM (Hlfhp)

280 "the deployment of National Guard troops against protesters"

The usual NYT lie. Nat. Guard troops have never been deployed against protesters. They've been deployed to deter vandalism, arson, and assault. I imagine that there's plenty of NYT staffers who view those as valid forms of protest, but they are not protected by the 1st Amendment.

Posted by: RonF at July 11, 2025 05:10 PM (l8nW6)

281 ^"Neera Tanden, the center's (Center for American Progress) chief executive, said the plan acknowledged a reality that Democrats had long resisted: They must embrace new immigration restrictions in order to have the credibility with voters to fight the far more expansive plans of the Trump administration.

"I'm happy to argue with Stephen Miller or anyone else about why they are wrong," she said. "But the way we're going to be able to do that is to also honestly assess that the border has been too insecure, that it allowed too many people to come through and that we need to fix that."

WAIT! Former White House Domestic Policy Council Director Neera Tanden just appeared for questioning on Capitol Hill regarding Biden's mental acuity.

The Domestic Policy Council is a key White House body that develops & implements the President's domestic policy agenda, ensures domestic policy decisions align with the President's goals, & are carried out effectively.

So, she knows ^ since the Dems lost & there's an investigation into Biden autopenning much placed before him including matters of immigration and the environment - specific CAP issues - or before, too?

And we believe her.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 05:28 PM (NFX2v)

282 All the Uni-party had to do about immigration was find a way to throw out the criminals and then keep them out. But they never could or would do it. I read so many stories about guys deported 5 or 6 times and keep coming back until they rape or kill some WOMAN.

So now I longer care if every single person here illegally gets shipped to Sudan, El Salvador, or wherever. And I'm also perfectly fine with revoking green cards and even citizenship. Ilhan Omar, I'm thinking of you.

And I don't care if you are married, I don't care if you have kids.

And birthright citizenship has got to go. If the constitution needs to be amended, so be it. That'll pass with flying colors.

Maybe if that piece of garbage hadn't killed that girl in Nebraska (or wherever she was) years ago I'd feel differently, but he did so I don't.

Posted by: jocon307 at July 11, 2025 05:40 PM (EuROc)

283 Dave Rubin interviewed Glenn Beck recently, they discussed Bongino. They are both friends of him. They both trust him. So to suddenly have decades of trust thrown into doubt is hard.

Beck: "We're at a crossroads because I know Dan Bongino...I've known him since before anything and I trust him. Do I have to trust a guy I know personally...appointed by a president I trust...If I don't trust them, who's left? Who's left? There's no one."

Rubin: "Once you go down that road, then you are spinning...I've known him to be an honorable person...then really, where are we?"

Beck: "We have no information...we have suspicion...But I need to SEE these things. We CANNOT go on trust, we need to go on facts."

Rubin: "...Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Bongino discussion is the last segment of their interview, 50 minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QS-QSPlgWI

Posted by: LizLem at July 11, 2025 05:42 PM (gWBY1)

284 "Former U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has admitted that President Donald J. Trump was correct on border and immigration issues, stating, "Trump was right," during an interview. He criticized Democrats for failing to address border security adequately, admitting the U.S.-Mexico border was "under siege" during Joe Biden's presidency."

Oh, FFS! Neither he nor Bush had the guts to hold a decent border position decades ago - and Hispanic/Latino illegal immigration was the absolute biggest problem at that time. (Bush's had Hispanic/Latino relatives & ran from the issue and, of course, legal or not, Kerry's wealthy wife was born in Mozambique.)

They can all say a lot in retrospect. Dealing with a multitude of people from all around the world engaged in illegal border crossings into the USA is another matter. What would any of the them do? Just talk. As they are all doing.

>VOA, Immigration Debate Rages in American Southwest - 2004-10-13, Update Oct. 31, 2009

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 05:45 PM (NFX2v)

285 why word murder redacted throughout stuff?

Posted by: cmeat at July 12, 2025 09:17 AM (GAyiy)

286 "They don't eat people's faces."
leopards, esp. snowies most certainly do. rip out lungs too.

Posted by: cmeat at July 12, 2025 11:18 AM (GAyiy)

Trump Is Firing Hundreds and Hundreds of DOJ and State Department Lefties and Layabouts

The State Department is laying off 1,300 bureaucrats in a "massive restructuring plan."

* Layoff notices are going out to more than 1,300 employees of the U.S. State Department Friday.
* The firings are part of a dramatic reorganization and a push by the Trump administration to drastically downsize the federal government.
The State Department is laying off more than 1,300 employees Friday, a move that critics say will make us less safe abroad and hurt America's leadership across the globe.
The Trump administration has pushed to reshape American diplomacy and worked aggressively to shrink the size of the federal government, including mass dismissals as part of moves to dismantle whole departments like the U.S. Agency for International Development and the Education Department.
State Dept. layoffs
By the numbers:
The department is sending layoff notices to 1,107 civil servants and 246 foreign service officers with domestic assignments in the United States, a senior State Department official told The Associated Press.
Foreign service officers affected will be placed immediately on administrative leave for 120 days, after which they will formally lose their jobs, according to an internal notice obtained by The Associated Press. For most affected civil servants, the separation period is 60 days, it said.

The pinkslips are coming for DOJ lawyers who participated in the political persecution of the right.

Clandestine
@WarClandestine
Interesting.
WaPo claim anonymous sources are telling them that the Trump admin are currently "firing and pushing out employees" at the DOJ/FBI, with zero explanation or warning.
Sounds like a purge is going on.
Perhaps bad actors are being drawn out and eliminated. But one thing is for certain, that much is going on behind the scenes. There's plenty going on that we do not get to see.

CBS "News" whines that all of their sources and traitors are being fired.

A 17-year former Justice Department official is warning of a wave of retribution inside the agency.
Patty Hartman, who served as a top public affairs specialist at the FBI and federal prosecutors' offices, told CBS News, "The rules don't exist anymore."
Hartman, who was fired Monday via a letter from Attorney General Pam Bondi, is the fourth person connected to the agency's work on the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riots to be terminated in the past month.
"There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."
Hartman isn't a prosecutor, but worked on the District of Columbia U.S. Attorney's Office public affairs team that distributed news releases about the more than 1,500 Jan. 6 criminal prosecutions.
"I am not political. I do not serve a president or a party," she said. "I serve the American people, the Department of Justice and its mission and the citizens in the district where I work. I've been doing that for almost 20 years."

Julie Kelly says that's a lie.

The purge of Justice Department employees who worked on Jan. 6 cases began shortly after President Trump's second inauguration, when he installed a former Jan. 6 defense attorney, Ed Martin, as the acting top prosecutor in Washington, D.C.
Multiple prosecutors were promptly terminated.
The latest wave of firings included Hartman and three more prosecutors who helped handle some of the Jan. 6 cases. She said those firings appear to be a form of retribution from the administration.
...
She characterized her dismissal as an indication of a broader destabilization inside the Justice Department and Trump administration. In a social media post this week, she wrote, "We appear to be driving straight into an abyss that holds no memory of what democracy is, was, or should be."
"The people in charge who are supposed to protect us -- our fellow Americans who we elected, along with those who were appointed, and swore an oath to protect this nation and our Constitution -- now use the Constitution as a weapon to suit their own ends. And the most terrifying fact is, their road map is very long," Hartman also wrote.
She told CBS News she had been fired without due process and said she's considering a legal challenge over her termination.

Julie Kelly 🇺🇸
@julie_kelly2
WashPo reporting fabulous news out of DOJ as employee purge continues.
"Widespread, abrupt terminations have left Justice Department and FBI employees wondering if they will be next, people familiar with the matter say."
This makes me especially happy:
"Patricia Hartman, a veteran spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney's office in D.C., was notified Monday that she was fired."
Hartman routinely refused to answer any of my media inquiries as she ran cover for Matt Graves and J6 prosecutors.
"I wish I HAD an explanation," Hartman told WashPo.
More: "At least three attorneys who worked on the prosecutions of rioters who stormed the Capitol on Jan 6 and had been demoted to roles elsewhere also were removed."
DOJ already fired several temp J6 prosecutors but many career prosecutors who worked on J6 cases remain but "fear they may be next to receive a termination letter."
I can GUARANTEE some will very soon.

Posted by: Ace at 02:15 PM

Comments

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1 We win. They lose.
Thus endeth the Gospel of Saint Ronald, peace upon him.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:16 PM (gKWVE)

2 What sort of positions and job titles will be disappearing?

also I was 1st because as I filled out the comment box, there were 0 comments displayed

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (AOsQT)

3 Let me put my restructuring plan into you.

Posted by: The Donald at July 11, 2025 02:18 PM (jGGMD)

4 I have to think a lot of these are make-work jobs for nieces and nephews, that kind of thing

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:18 PM (AOsQT)

5 Learn to coal.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:19 PM (bvNHo)

6 Anybody putting two and two together, and figuring out that thr Trump DOJ isn't going to try to get anywhere with their most important cases, until the saboteurs (like these guys) are out of the picture?

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 02:19 PM (hOOi9)

7 I kind of wish the Trump admin would lead with a more forceful message of "REFORM." Getting out in front of moves like this is kind of important. They should just be banging that drum every press conference and release. Just preface everything with the job of the admin is to clean up the past 90+ years of the mess that is the federal government.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2025 02:20 PM (mlg/3)

8 Abolish the State Dept. What good is it? Kick the UN out of the USA too.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:20 PM (TwZXH)

9 When Stalin finds out about this, I guarantee you that he will be very unhappy with your actions.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 02:20 PM (D7oie)

10 Yay Marco!

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (eZ5tL)

11 I was promised I would get tired of winning and that hasn't happened yet

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (+qU29)

12 I like the Russian method better.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (bvNHo)

13 Fired ? They should have been jailed for what they did to those people...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (VE6XX)

14 weft cut-loop, exactly right. It's free, and easy, to shape the public discussion. And indeed it is reform.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (1m82a)

15 Something, something, when you aim for the king, something, something.

Posted by: Reforger at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (SJnNf)

16 7 I kind of wish the Trump admin would lead with a more forceful message of "REFORM." Getting out in front of moves like this is kind of important. They should just be banging that drum every press conference and release. Just preface everything with the job of the admin is to clean up the past 90+ years of the mess that is the federal government.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2025 02:20 PM (mlg/3)

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The people who care about feds losing their jobs are the feds themselves and...just about no one else.

Can thousands and thousands of them. It'll be like hearing that some factory 1000 miles away from you shut down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

17 Fire...up the helicopters.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (pMi6S)

18 > She told CBS News she had been fired without due process and said she's considering a legal challenge over her termination.

Wut? Are government employees guaranteed hearings in front of a judge before they can be fired?

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (lIio7)

19 The chopper.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (bvNHo)

20 This is definitely what I voted for. I want more pain in DC. Intolerable excruciating pain.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (/U5Yz)

21 Bondi's gone up in my estimation..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (VE6XX)

22 Good fucking riddance.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (PMtkd)

23 "terminations have left Justice Department and FBI employees wondering if they will be next"

GOOD! Behave.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (TwZXH)

24 Also, shorting the real estate markets in VA, DC, and MD.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (/U5Yz)

25 Second look at Bondi?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (PMtkd)

26 Take out the trash, my dudes!

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (dCxaZ)

27 Tell me about justice system lawyers! We just had a prosecutor presenting to us this morning, and it was obvious that we, the Grand Jury had paid more attention to the evidence than she had. Some of these people are just embarrassing.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (hOOi9)

28 23 "terminations have left Justice Department and FBI employees wondering if they will be next"

GOOD! Behave.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (TwZXH)

======

Or don't. It doesn't matter.

They're fired too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

29 I like the Russian method better.

There are plenty of tall buildings in Washington

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (+qU29)

30 18 > She told CBS News she had been fired without due process and said she's considering a legal challenge over her termination.

Wut? Are government employees guaranteed hearings in front of a judge before they can be fired?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (lIio7)

They think Government Employment is a permanent Right that they have been granted, because they are so much better than the rest of us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK8)

31 I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please, don't let me be misunderstood

Minnesota Star Tribune Labels Illegal Alien Child Predators as "Misunderstood," DHS Fires Back

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Same with Heinrich Himmler.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (L/fGl)

32 i don't serve the guy who was elected president, i serve the people.

hardy har har har

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (CWTWj)

33 But, but, but, ma’h Epstein !

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (FIXtj)

34 Fuck these lawyers.
They can put up a shingle and defend drunks sleeping under the overpass.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (ufFY8)

35

But what about the black people that these hardworkin Americans protect from white people!!!

WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO DO NOW!!!!!!

BLACKS WILL BE KILLED!

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 11, 2025 02:25 PM (et1vG)

36 Christmas in July!

Posted by: teh Wind at July 11, 2025 02:25 PM (l+V04)

37 "terminations have left Justice Department and FBI employees wondering if they will be next"

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Well, honest work is out of the question.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:25 PM (L/fGl)

38 Curious about the State cuts, sounds like all domestic (some GSs serve overseas, but not most). Years of interaction with that outfit plus outside observation yielded the "duh" conclusion that there was an enormous mindset problem, but never struck me as a place with lots of extra bodies. Presumably whole "functional" areas being done away with, which sounds good.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:25 PM (1m82a)

39 30 18 > She told CBS News she had been fired without due process and said she's considering a legal challenge over her termination.

Wut? Are government employees guaranteed hearings in front of a judge before they can be fired?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (lIio7)

They think Government Employment is a permanent Right that they have been granted, because they are so much better than the rest of us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK

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There's caselaw making federal employment termination a due process thing. However, there's competing caselaw that says that the president as the right to fire anyone.

Eh...her threats will probably go nowhere. There might be a need for some level of compensation, which is probably already included in any kind of severance package, but that should be about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

40 32 i don't serve the guy who was elected president, i serve the people.

hardy har har har
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (CWTWj)

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These people make me sick with their fake "public servant" bullshit.

You're a servant? Then you don't get paid. Do it for your love of the public. LOL

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (PMtkd)

41 More and faster, please.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (CueAq)

42 Patty Hartman, who served as a top public affairs specialist at the FBI and federal prosecutors' offices, told CBS News, "The rules don't exist anymore."

Oh you poor thing, you'll have to polish your resume and get a job working for a change.

Enjoy your "funemployment" as "an employee surplus to requirements"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (a+4eV)

43 I guess the Washington Post will give this story the attention it deserves just after they do a follow up on some woke (literal) clown complaining that calling Trump a clown denigrates the profession.

Cutting journalism.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (dIske)

44 "Fired without Due Process". What an illiterate boob.

There is NO LEGAL RIGHT to any job. Private or public sector.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (2sMLA)

45 "The pinkslips are coming for DOJ lawyers who participated in the political persecution of the right."

YES!!!!

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (NpAcC)

46 To make sure Trump's reforms aren't wiped away by the next Democrat administration, MAGA needs to do its own long march through the institutions.... Sherman style.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (jL6lQ)

47 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."
_______

She must have missed the DOJ fabricating a false pretext to investigate the President and his staff in Trump I and to harm the President and the GOP electorally.

By "missed" I mean "fully participated in."

Posted by: Alec Leamas at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (ssz2a)

48 The congressional oversight committee has told Patel to shove his new costly HQ up his ass. Exist in the building that's falling down around them. Should have done maintenance on it all along aholes.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)

49 She told CBS News she had been fired without due process and said she's considering a legal challenge over her termination.

Heavens no, not that!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (y+qgR)

50 3 Let me put my restructuring plan into you.

Posted by: The Donald at July 11, 2025 02:18 PM (jGGMD)

we have been informed by Reliable Source and Regular Commenter "It's Go Time Donald" that you are only following orders and that's why you throw us red meat like ICE raids and this DOJ purge, yet did not release epstein list.

But we are on to you, Mr. DoritoChip-OrangeManBad!! Don't think for a moment that you are fooling US!!

*shakes fist*

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (dCxaZ)

51 44 "Fired without Due Process". What an illiterate boob.

There is NO LEGAL RIGHT to any job. Private or public sector.

Prove me wrong.
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (2sMLA)

========

Yeah, in terms of federal employment, there's a lot of caselaw that says termination without due process is a violation of the employee's rights.

However, when it comes to reorgs and RIFs, none of that applies.

So, this threat should go nowhere.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

52 34 Fuck these lawyers.
They can put up a shingle and defend drunks sleeping under the overpass.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (ufFY

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HA!
Too good for them.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (PMtkd)

53 I serve the American people
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Well this one is right up there with "The check is in the mail" and "Don't call me, I'll call you".

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (Qr870)

54 "The rules don't exist anymore."

Who is she? Rumplestiltskin? Just now wake up?

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (TwZXH)

55 Make me a sammich.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:28 PM (bvNHo)

56 Hey ex-Public Servants: Learn to fentanyl. And while away the days waiting 'round to die.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 02:28 PM (wBaIH)

57 54 "The rules don't exist anymore."

Who is she? Rumplestiltskin? Just now wake up?
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (TwZXH)

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The rules were, "Do anything they want as long as it aligned with the Democrat establishment's wishes."

Why can't those rules come back?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

58 There are plenty of tall buildings in Washington
Posted by: Skip

Ahem!

Posted by: Lampposts Local #86 at July 11, 2025 02:28 PM (2sMLA)

59
Bureaucrats face what private sector employees do every day. World ends.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 02:28 PM (HZi96)

60 I serve the American people

Then you do so at the pleasure of the Executive as delineated in the Constitution. Or else you're an embezzler of taxpayer funds.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (gKWVE)

61 i could make a lot more working in private industry but i love serving the people

ho ho ho

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (CWTWj)

62
Eh...her threats will probably go nowhere. There might be a need for some level of compensation, which is probably already included in any kind of severance package, but that should be about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:2

I thought the trade off for working for the government was lower pay and job security but I was wrong.
And government employees should not be allowed to unionize but that's just me I guess.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (CueAq)

63 They think Government Employment is a permanent Right that they have been granted, because they are so much better than the rest of us.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (uWKK

Yeah, like who told Strozk and Page about the "insurance policy"?

Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and all of those arrogant, vicious SOBs were some sort of Knights Errants defending "democracy" and the honor of Hillary Clinton?

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (rj6Yv)

64 "I work for the American people."

And the American people said, "You're fired."

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (j/vBG)

65 60 I serve the American people

Then you do so at the pleasure of the Executive as delineated in the Constitution. Or else you're an embezzler of taxpayer funds.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (gKWVE)

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The bureaucracy must serve the people by severing all feedback from the people so that the bureaucracy can do whatever it wants in service to the people whether the people like it or not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (GBKbO)

66 Leftie and layabout is superfluous.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (ImXfC)

67 Sounds like a purge is going on.
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Now is everyone absolutely certain we can't vote for him in the 2024 election again?

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (Qr870)

68 Cutesy Time Status: Ended.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (TwZXH)

69 This is why I got out of the fed civil service forty years ago. It's really not as secure as so many people think. You're job is totally at the whim of politics.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (g8Ew8)

70 This is way more important to me that the Epstein issue. These assholes took great joy in torturing their political opponents.

Die in fire.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

71 The War Of the Worlds starring Tom Cruise was pretty good, in spite of Tom Cruise.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (ufFY8)

72 I'm still reeling from the astute word etymology posted here a few weeks ago that (Duh!) "helicopter" is not broken down to "heli-" and "copter" as everyone assumes, but actually is broken down to

"helico-" (meaning spiraling or curved)
"-pter" (meaning wing)

...hence it means "spiraling wing."

Other words based on "pter" include "pterodactyl" ("fingered wing") and pteropus (the genus of bats, meaning "foot-wing").

Slaps forehead.

Now I always pronounce it "helico-pter," just to start conversations.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (pMi6S)

73 59
Bureaucrats face what private sector employees do every day. World ends.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 02:28 PM (HZi96)

Some stupid Hawaiian judge is going to say no standing and you can't fire anyone, ever.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (CueAq)

74 Off topic: presstitutes are critizing Trump for visiting the Texas flood area in Texas by dripping condescending innuendo into their hit piece.
The press is the enemy of the People.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (KtOUo)

75 This stuff at DOJ has received lots of attention prior to Kelley's post, including the welcome holocaust in the Civil Rights division under Dhillon. In addition to not having many politicals confirmed, and overseeing the biggest purge in DOJ history, Bondi has had to deal with the largest onslaught of lawless judicial usurpation in our history. Plus running interference for an unprecedented number of bold, substantive EOs and policy changes.

But of course she's a do-nothing and about to be jettisoned.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (1m82a)

76 Dumbasses should have taken the buyout 4 months ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (GBKbO)

77
The pinkslips are coming for DOJ lawyers who participated in the political persecution of the right.

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'Bout time. What's it been? Nearly six months? When it should have been six minutes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (HZi96)

78 73 59
Bureaucrats face what private sector employees do every day. World ends.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 02:28 PM (HZi96)

Some stupid Hawaiian judge is going to say no standing and you can't fire anyone, ever.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (CueAq)

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This action is in response to the 8-1 process ruling from SCOTUS saying that Trump can make plans for RIF.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

79
MSNBC about to be blessed with a bunch of new "regular commentators."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (UmB+t)

80 >>You're job is totally at the whim of politics.

So are just about all private sector jobs.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (viF8m)

81 REAP THEM GAINZ!

Posted by: Brometheus at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (Mch+H)

82 71 Is it about a midget who saves the world?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (bvNHo)

83 Not tired of winning!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (VWPYG)

84 Let me put my restructuring plan into you
Let me lay it all on the line
Let me put my restructuring plan into you
Let me cut your jobs with my knife!

Posted by: Mo at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (qC9Le)

85 Who is she? Rumplestiltskin? Just now wake up?
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (TwZXH)

Rip Van Winkle?

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (Qr870)

86 75 This stuff at DOJ has received lots of attention prior to Kelley's post, including the welcome holocaust in the Civil Rights division under Dhillon. In addition to not having many politicals confirmed, and overseeing the biggest purge in DOJ history, Bondi has had to deal with the largest onslaught of lawless judicial usurpation in our history. Plus running interference for an unprecedented number of bold, substantive EOs and policy changes.

But of course she's a do-nothing and about to be jettisoned.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (1m82a)

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Hiring new career lawyers at the DOJ just happens Day 1 automatically without even waiting for political appointees, right?

Right?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:31 PM (GBKbO)

87 So it's a helio copter.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2025 02:32 PM (KtOUo)

88 I'm SO SAD that toxic bureaucrats are getting fired. Everyone loved bureaucrats! Real salt of the earth.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (pMi6S)

89 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."
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Yeah, no.

Everyone in the executive branch works under the President, who we voters choose. No one, and no agency of the federal government is entitled to any independent authority.

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (zLwRl)

90 More YUGE news, and more winning. This guy Trump...
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The U.S. government posted a surplus in June as tariffs gave an extra bump to a sharp increase in receipts, the Treasury Department said Friday.

With government red ink swelling throughout the year, last month saw a surplus of just over $27 billion, following a $316 billion deficit in May.

That brought the fiscal year-to-date deficit down to $1.34 trillion, a 1% decline from the same period a year ago. In June 2024, the deficit totaled $71 billion. There are three months left in the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30.
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How'd those words taste coming out your mouth, huh NBC? Bitter?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (VWPYG)

91 > There's caselaw making federal employment termination a due process thing.

*sigh* Why am I not surprised? We should slip something in BBB2 to end that.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (lIio7)

92
This action is in response to the 8-1 process ruling from SCOTUS saying that Trump can make plans for RIF.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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He could MAKE plans. Whether he can EXECUTE them is up to the next judge.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (UmB+t)

93 @AnthonyCabassa_
Just IN 🚨: LA Mayor Bass announces 'cash assistance' program to immigrant families affected by ICE raids. The idea is to begin handing out 'cash' debit cards families by next week.

She mentioned the program would be funded via 'philanthropists', not city taxpayer money. -LAT

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I really need to figure out how to apply for this.

Just because I don't live in CA, they can't deny me because that's racist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)

94 "The State Department is laying off more than 1,300 employees Friday, a move that critics say will make us less safe abroad and hurt America's leadership across the globe."

No it won't. It will hurt the wallets of these 1,300. All this drama about minimally reducing headcount is a mere correction. Government jobs are not a hospice. A real layoff is what happened in 1993 with IBM laid off 60,000.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (NXz8h)

95 >>Patty Hartman, who served as a top public affairs specialist at the FBI and federal prosecutors' offices, told CBS News, "The rules don't exist anymore."

Learn to Swallow Choad, Patty.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (Bi+MU)

96 "I serve the American people"

And then we find out "To Serve the American People" is a cookbook.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 11, 2025 02:34 PM (jL6lQ)

97 88 I'm SO SAD that toxic bureaucrats are getting fired. Everyone loved bureaucrats! Real salt of the earth.
Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (pMi6S)

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LOL

"But they are public servants, they work for us!" "Hard and daily (in the ass)."

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:34 PM (PMtkd)

98 We damn sure better hope that the next administration is one of our own. A Democrat will have all of this reversed in short order.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 02:34 PM (XeU6L)

99 Can we call this "decruitment"?

There will soon be many job openings for leaf blower operators.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 02:35 PM (R4SAT)

100 I think I agree that the War of the Worlds remake was not improved by having Cruise in it.
Cruise has improved many, many movies in his career (Edge of Tomorrow could not have starred anyone else) but he was wasted in War of the Worlds. Anybody could have been in that role. Maybe Will Smith.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:35 PM (gKWVE)

101 >> There's caselaw making federal employment termination a due process thing.

Reassignment to Antarctica is always an option. Be there Monday 8AM or be fired.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:35 PM (/U5Yz)

102 Fire their asses.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2025 02:35 PM (YwEeS)

103 "I serve the American people"

She misspelled "service".

Like what a bull does to a cow.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 02:35 PM (a+4eV)

104 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America

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Yeah, boy, if there were ever two downtrodden people, it's Elain and the Mooch.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:35 PM (L/fGl)

105 I can't imagine living in California where the cost of everything is going through the roof and mayor of LA is giving free money to illegals.

How stupid do you have to be to keep voting for this shit?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 02:36 PM (viF8m)

106 The Blade is all broken up about these dedicated career public servants getting mercilessly shitcanned like diseased leper rats getting heaved off the side of the USS Trumpnuts to be eaten by circling sharks with laser beams.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

107 I hope their computers and phones and security access are all confiscated/canceled.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (W2Pud)

108 98 We damn sure better hope that the next administration is one of our own. A Democrat will have all of this reversed in short order.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 02:34 PM (XeU6L)

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There are problems with that.

Hiring thousands (NPR says it was 59,000 at the start of June) back in shuttered or reorged departments isn't...easy.

Being a fed who lost their job in 2025 and had to move to Missouri to find work for the next few years makes going back to DC harder.

It wouldn't exactly be an overnight thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

109 >>104 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America

Elaine Benes' net worth is north of $250M. For being a TV actor.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (/U5Yz)

110 104 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America

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FFS, Obama has grifted his way to hundreds of millions and Dreyfus is heir to the Dreyfus fund worth billions.

These insufferable bitches. STFU.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (PMtkd)

111 The War Of the Worlds starring Tom Cruise was pretty good, in spite of Tom Cruise.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (ufFY

The FX were excellent. But the kids were a couple of whiny little bitches. By midway through the movie I wanted them to be dusted.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (g8Ew8)

112

More of this please.

Posted by: four seasons at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (3ek7K)

113 I think I agree that the War of the Worlds remake was not improved by having Cruise in it. Posted by: gKWVE

Any thoughts if Cruise would have improved Prometheus?

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (NXz8h)

114 "these dedicated career public servants getting mercilessly shitcanned"

Disconnecting dozens of foreign state espionage channels prolly.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM (TwZXH)

115 106 The Blade is all broken up about these dedicated career public servants getting mercilessly shitcanned like diseased leper rats getting heaved off the side of the USS Trumpnuts to be eaten by circling sharks with laser beams.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

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I just hope they all move to the utopian progressive paradise of California to pick marijuana so that the weed market doesn't get a bad price shock.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)

116 i don't serve the guy who was elected president, i serve the people.

hardy har har har
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (CWTWj)

The people elected Donald Trump as President so they could get rid of the likes of her.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 02:38 PM (R4SAT)

117 109 She's an heir of the Dreyfuss Fund.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:38 PM (TwZXH)

118 The Blade is all broken up about these dedicated career public servants getting mercilessly shitcanned like diseased leper rats getting heaved off the side of the USS Trumpnuts to be eaten by circling sharks with laser beams.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 02:36 PM (iFTx/)

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I just hope they all move to the utopian progressive paradise of California to pick marijuana so that the weed market doesn't get a bad price shock.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:38 PM (GBKbO)
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LEARN TO WEED

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (iFTx/)

119 Never forget that the very term "bureaucracy" was devised as a bitterly sarcastic observation that our real rulers that lord over us are not the wealthy (plutocracy) or the general populace (democracy) or the social elites (aristocracy), but instead the faceless, soulless government functionaries who actually are the ones with the hands on the levers of power, supposedly at the behest of and taking orders from the the people or the elite, but who actually ling ago went rogue and realized that they, the ones with their hands on the levers, actually control everything, asnd no ne can stop them.

And then came Trump.

Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (pMi6S)

120 This is way more important to me that the Epstein issue. These assholes took great joy in torturing their political opponents.

Die in fire.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

Why is it a contest? And anyway the Epstein thing is worse in terms of what was done to people and kids.

What is this crap, are we all worried the Epstein stuff is somehow hurting Trump or something?

It *should* hurt him if the truth can't come out. Who the fuck gives a shit?

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (Qr870)

121 Any thoughts if Cruise would have improved Prometheus?
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram

Maybe if, after reading that roll of toilet paper Ridley Scott was calling a script, Cruise had stormed into the office and done his Les Grossman impression to Scott's face

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (gKWVE)

122 109 >>104 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America

Elaine Benes' net worth is north of $250M. For being a TV actor.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:37 PM

I read she was the kid of a billionaire.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (CueAq)

123 I think 7M+ student loan holders are about to be notified they still owe.

As I said to a good buddy after the election, I was mostly relieved, not ecstatic. Mostly because I realized it would no longer be a thing of waiting, almost every day, to see what new idiocy or horror was being unleashed by the cretinous aliens in power. Having new positive morsels or main dishes dropped every day is of course better than just relief.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (1m82a)

124 53 I serve the American people
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Well this one is right up there with "The check is in the mail" and "Don't call me, I'll call you".
Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (Qr870)

For freeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Lolol

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 02:40 PM (OA79/)

125 93 @AnthonyCabassa_
Just IN 🚨: LA Mayor Bass announces 'cash assistance' program to immigrant families affected by ICE raids. The idea is to begin handing out 'cash' debit cards families by next week.

She mentioned the program would be funded via 'philanthropists', not city taxpayer money. -LAT

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:33 PM (GBKbO)
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This is going to backfire. Those philanthropists probably aren't all domiciled in the US. It wouldn't surprise me if various Central and South American governments aren't using cut outs to process this money. Hell, it might even be attached to the Cartels.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 02:40 PM (dIske)

126 "the kids were a couple of whiny little bitches"

I thought Fanning did a great job at looking genuinely frightened. Better than average kid actor performance.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:40 PM (TwZXH)

127 >>"I serve the American people"

Not until we hire you, you don't.

Posted by: McDonald's at July 11, 2025 02:40 PM (Bi+MU)

128 123 I think 7M+ student loan holders are about to be notified they still owe.

As I said to a good buddy after the election, I was mostly relieved, not ecstatic. Mostly because I realized it would no longer be a thing of waiting, almost every day, to see what new idiocy or horror was being unleashed by the cretinous aliens in power. Having new positive morsels or main dishes dropped every day is of course better than just relief.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (1m82a)

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Assume $100 each month on average.

That's $700 million more in revenue for the feds. Not a lot considering the size of the deficit and debt, but every little bit helps!

Be patriotic, 20-something barista! Pay your student loans back! Do it for Uncle Joe!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

129 Has anyone told the corrupt FBIies to learn to code yet?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (t0Rmr)

130 The correct term is 'whirly-bird'

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (AOsQT)

131 Dreyfus World Wide Dollar. It's a stack of funds etc.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (bvNHo)

132 "The people in charge who are supposed to protect us -- our fellow Americans who we elected, along with those who were appointed, and swore an oath to protect this nation and our Constitution -- now use the Constitution as a weapon to suit their own ends. And the most terrifying fact is, their road map is very long," Hartman also wrote.

So where in your job contract were you guaranteed a job for life and that the 'people in charge' where always going to 'protect you'??

Quick someone! Get Ms. Hartman a fainting couch, some smelling salts, an unemployment benefits application, and the book 'Coding for Dummies' STAT!

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (oiNtH)

133 Louis Dreyfus comes from a family with a vast fortune.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (YwEeS)

134 "She told CBS News she had been fired without due process and said she's considering a legal challenge over her termination."

WTF does that mean? She works at DOJ and she basically wants due process?

We had due process. You weren't invited. We duly processed you should be fired.

"I work for the American people." Eff that. You work in government. The CEO of the government said you should be fired. Next.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (FxH7T)

135 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America
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I'm starting to think Mooch is an op. Like maybe she hates Obama so much for banging the chef she secretly wants to help conservatives.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (Qr870)

136 129 Has anyone told the corrupt FBIies to learn to code yet?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (t0Rmr)

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Elric came up with one better (no surprise consdering how how Blade-y he is) at 118.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

137 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America

So leave. Go where it's easier for women.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (y+qgR)

138 That's $700 million more in revenue for the feds. Not a lot considering the size of the deficit and debt, but every little bit helps!

Also it dissuades people from pursuing degrees that will never pay back their cost so in the long term it is very helpful

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (t0Rmr)

139 Now I always pronounce it "helico-pter," just to start conversations.
Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (pMi6S)

Is the follow up question, "are you Dutch? Belgian?"

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (D7oie)

140 Boo.

Fucking.

Hoo.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (ULPxl)

141 If they can't be fired there are some unpleasant places to transfer them to I am sure.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (YwEeS)

142 138 That's $700 million more in revenue for the feds. Not a lot considering the size of the deficit and debt, but every little bit helps!

Also it dissuades people from pursuing degrees that will never pay back their cost so in the long term it is very helpful
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (t0Rmr)

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OBBB had a section for that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)

143 123 I think 7M+ student loan holders are about to be notified they still owe.

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I don't know if it is true, but I've seen several lefties pissed that their student loans are being paid by wage garnishment.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (PMtkd)

144 6 Anybody putting two and two together, and figuring out that thr Trump DOJ isn't going to try to get anywhere with their most important cases, until the saboteurs (like these guys) are out of the picture?

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 02:19 PM (hOOi9)

And a 3 month longer hiring freeze til Oct 15...so all these folks are going and no one is coming in...and they are fighting Dem lawfare.

Aka - don't expect a lot of proactive out of DOJ. But unlike the Biden admin, they won't be destructive, so that's a huge win...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (tOcjL)

145 Patty Hartman looks like she's close to retirement age anyway, so I'm guessing she will be able to get a pension and won't have to swallow "choad" for a living:

https://tinyurl.com/4t6jsv3t

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (2GCMq)

146 "She mentioned the program would be funded via 'philanthropists', not city taxpayer money. -LAT

We know where the missing 2B in homeless money went.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 02:43 PM (FxH7T)

147 "I serve the American people"

Peel me a grape.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:43 PM (TwZXH)

148 But did they get this guy Super Anti-Trump State department guy that also does Game of Thrones videos'. It also did a campaign Steam for Harris which is a interesting thing to do as a government employee https://www.youtube.com/@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin

Posted by: Sayomara at July 11, 2025 02:43 PM (Ku6NF)

149 This is way more important to me that the Epstein issue. These assholes took great joy in torturing their political opponents.

Die in fire.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (viF8m)

The thing with the Epstein clients, beyond the outrage at what they did to children, is that if they have the influence to tell (apparently) Trump's DoJ that the law doesn't apply to them, even in (speculated) exchange for favors like the BBB, it is certain they're continuing to use their influence in less obvious ways elsewhere.

Which means we do not, and cannot, have a representative government. Which is a bigger deal than the peons currently being fired.

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 02:43 PM (zLwRl)

150
Rip Van Winkle? Thanks

Posted by: doug at July 11, 2025 02:43 PM (Hy+R4)

151 109 She's an heir of the Dreyfuss Fund.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:38 PM (TwZXH)
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Her family owned numerous companies trading commodities, mainly food and energy, under the name Louis-Dreyfus Group. Her father was estimated by Forbes to be worth $3.5 billion at his death in 2016.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 02:43 PM (qyaCV)

152 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America
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Appearing on the cover of magazines is hard. That nude thing for Rolling Stone was exhausting!

Posted by: Julia Louis Dreyfus at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (XeU6L)

153
I don't know if it is true, but I've seen several lefties pissed that their student loans are being paid by wage garnishment.
Posted by: Seems Legit

LOL Credit rating 100.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (/U5Yz)

154 LEARN TO WEED

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (iFTx/)

Nice.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (t0Rmr)

155 123 I think 7M+ student loan holders are about to be notified they still owe.

As I said to a good buddy after the election, I was mostly relieved, not ecstatic. Mostly because I realized it would no longer be a thing of waiting, almost every day, to see what new idiocy or horror was being unleashed by the cretinous aliens in power. Having new positive morsels or main dishes dropped every day is of course better than just relief.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (1m82a)

I know right. During the lock downs they quit accruing interest on student loans and said you could take a pass on payments. I doubled up my payments and dropped some one time 10 k payments and it all went to principal for about three years. Got my kids out of college with no debt in their name.

Almost done.

Winning.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (OA79/)

156
As I said to a good buddy after the election, I was mostly relieved, not ecstatic. Mostly because I realized it would no longer be a thing of waiting, almost every day, to see what new idiocy or horror was being unleashed by the cretinous aliens in power. Having new positive morsels or main dishes dropped every day is of course better than just relief.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM

I feel the same way rhomboid.
Cretinous aliens in power would be a cool death metal band name.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (CueAq)

157 "Lefties and Layabouts" are euphemisms for "public servants."

Posted by: Joefrombako at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (tAiFZ)

158 Gosh, why didn't this Hartman person set up an interview with Fox News instead of CBS?

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (rj6Yv)

159 Rumplestiltskin spun straw into gold. Very Trumpy.

Trumplestiltskin.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:44 PM (Qr870)

160 "I've seen several lefties pissed that their student loans are being paid by wage garnishment."

!!! Too much winning for one day !!!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (TwZXH)

161 Slaps forehead.

Now I always pronounce it "helico-pter," just to start conversations.
Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (pMi6S)

An ornithopter flies by flapping its wings.

You don't want to know how a pornithopter flies, do you?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (R4SAT)

162 The correct term is 'whirly-bird'
Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (AOsQT)

Choppah.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (g8Ew8)

163 Googled Patty Hartman public affairs specialist.
Gray headed bowl cut hair, very northern Virginia type woman you would see screaming at a school board meeting.

Posted by: Redenzo at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (4VaIk)

164 Live by the sword, die by the sword. Hope they can learn to code. Karma.

Posted by: TJ Jackson at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (bXvrr)

165 Now, the next step for Trump, in the lead up to the 2026 election is to demand that colleges be added as co-signers on student loans AND make it retroactive.

Then go to all the angry baristas and tell them they can get out of part of their debt if they vote R...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (t0Rmr)

166 For 30 yrs, I was NEITHER a leftist NOR a layabout.

I did have one colleague who volunteered to go on TDY to prosecute the J6 cases. She retired voluntarily to take a better job. Too bad she quit before Team Orange got around to firing her.

Posted by: mnw at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (kd60y)

167 >>>"The rules don't exist anymore."

Oh yeah? Well, maybe we the people didn't like those "old rules."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 02:46 PM (uCjyK)

168 Put them all up at Bohemian Grove. Seasonal workers. It'll be great!

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at July 11, 2025 02:46 PM (QSrLX)

169 The State Department is laying off 1,300 bureaucrats in a "massive restructuring plan."

The State Dept employs 80,000 enemies of the state. I'll let you know when the plan is "massive"!

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2025 02:46 PM (4Nep/)

170 The people who care about feds losing their jobs are the feds themselves and...just about no one else.

Can thousands and thousands of them. It'll be like hearing that some factory 1000 miles away from you shut down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Not talking about comforting the feds. I'm talking about basic, root level messaging. Just fucking say "REFORM" every single time a camera is on. That's it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2025 02:46 PM (mlg/3)

171 Trump produced the first monthly surplus in May since June 2017, in his first term.

That should get some dancing going at the White House.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 02:46 PM (qyaCV)

172 Gray headed bowl cut hair, very northern Virginia type woman you would see screaming at a school board meeting.

Blonde bowl cut (with bolter) > grey bowl cut (with RBF)

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:46 PM (t0Rmr)

173
There's caselaw making federal employment termination a due process thing.

*sigh* Why am I not surprised? We should slip something in BBB2 to end that.
Posted by: bonhomme

==============

- Declare an indefinite holiday and send them all home.
- Delete their accounts.
- Sell the equipment (to whoever wants cocktail napkin floppy disks).
- Lease or sublet the buildings.
- No raises or promotions for the rest of their employment, ever, but sure, fine, here's your salary for doing absolutely nothing, which will be searchable along with your name via public OPM data.

Some will keep collecting. Others, who have ambitions and who got into government to help effect a fun-duh-mental transformation of the nay-shun, will look elsewhere.

That is my dream.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 02:47 PM (UmB+t)

174 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."

We can't have commoners parading through the capitol like the own the place, can we? That is a line that must NEVER be crossed.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2025 02:47 PM (PTDkx)

175
Layabouts, scallywags, and ne'er-do-wells!
Oh, my!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 02:47 PM (Tv15w)

176 As for any non-probationary employee fired, they have MSPB rights...but I'm not sure that will get any of them very far...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:48 PM (tOcjL)

177 >>> 29 I like the Russian method better.

There are plenty of tall buildings in Washington
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (+qU29)

akshually, dee cee has a relatively low height limit.

Bawlimer and Richmond aren't that far away though, and you could probably find nice tall buildings in the suburbs too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 02:48 PM (ULPxl)

178 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."

That line was burnt during Trump's first term.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 02:48 PM (8v2yu)

179 135 Michelle Obama & Julia Louis Dreyfus Complain About How Hard Women Have It in America
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I'm starting to think Mooch is an op. Like maybe she hates Obama so much for banging the chef she secretly wants to help conservatives.
Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (Qr870)

You can literally advertise a p-oderant product targeted at women's schnitzel sacks and describe how to rub it in the folds between their legs.

Rough life.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 02:48 PM (OA79/)

180 I think the government needs to get out of student loans.

A bank can determine if your degree will provide an opportunity to pay back a loan.

Or make universities provide loans or grants from their endowments.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:48 PM (PMtkd)

181 Old hotness: Learn to code.
New hotness: Learn to food truck.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 02:49 PM (NXz8h)

182 The thing with the Epstein clients, beyond the outrage at what they did to children, is that if they have the influence to tell (apparently) Trump's DoJ that the law doesn't apply to them, even in (speculated) exchange for favors like the BBB, it is certain they're continuing to use their influence in less obvious ways elsewhere.

Which means we do not, and cannot, have a representative government. Which is a bigger deal than the peons currently being fired.
Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 02:43 PM (zLwRl)

Agreed. "Hey guys, it seems like much of our establishment in business, academia and government may be actively being blackmailed by the Intel agencies both domestic and abroad, and our deep state, and if we could just get some more info on Epstein, we could prove that and potentially even start to clean house on both the blackmailers and the blackmailees."

"Why are we still talking about Epstein? That was like six years ago! We have more important things to focus on like the price of a dozen eggs at Walmart!"

Like... huh?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 02:49 PM (uCjyK)

183 Live by the sword, die by the sword. Hope they can learn to code. Karma.

Those onions won't pick themselves.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2025 02:49 PM (fL/bX)

184 174 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."

I’m pretty sure there’s no DOJ exception for Article II. Probably wise to have some level of separation, but we’re being forced back to tit-for-tat rules of engagement.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 11, 2025 02:49 PM (TJLr1)

185 165 Now, the next step for Trump, in the lead up to the 2026 election is to demand that colleges be added as co-signers on student loans AND make it retroactive.

Then go to all the angry baristas and tell them they can get out of part of their debt if they vote R...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:45 PM (t0Rmr)

========

Interesting bit from Sec 85001 of the OBBB:

"If an educational program of an institution of higher education subject to this subsection does not meet the cohort median earning requirements, as described in paragraph (2), for one year during the applicable covered period but has not yet failed to meet such requirements for 2 years during such covered period, the institution shall promptly inform each student enrolled in the educational program of the eligible program's low cohort median earnings and that the educational program is at risk of losing its eligibility for funds under this part."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

186 MSPB = Merit Systems Protection Board - I realized I should have spelled that out.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:50 PM (tOcjL)

187 29 I like the Russian method better.

There are plenty of tall buildings in Washington
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 02:24 PM (+qU29)

akshually, dee cee has a relatively low height limit.

Bawlimer and Richmond aren't that far away though, and you could probably find nice tall buildings in the suburbs too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Washington Monument is 554 ft tall.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 02:50 PM (8v2yu)

188 170 Not talking about comforting the feds. I'm talking about basic, root level messaging. Just fucking say "REFORM" every single time a camera is on. That's it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 11, 2025 02:46 PM (mlg/3)

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I think "pain" would work better, to be honest.

People don't like feds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:50 PM (GBKbO)

189 Interesting to note the sheer size of the pot growing facilities in Camarillo, CA. I guess that all these illegals that are picking grapes and artichokes that Americans refuse to pick have branched out into the really valuable stuff.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 11, 2025 02:50 PM (IeSZF)

190 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."

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this line has never existed

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:50 PM (AOsQT)

191 Native American Group Praises Trump for Supporting Redskins Name

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Don't they know he's a lying dogface pony soldier?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:50 PM (L/fGl)

192 "Why are we still talking about Epstein? That was like six years ago! We have more important things to focus on like the price of a dozen eggs at Walmart!"

Like... huh?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 02:49 PM (uCjyK)

It's so important, it would literally collapse governments and the global economy!

Which should give you complete confidence in both governments and the global economy.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (j/vBG)

193 @30

>>Curious about the State cuts, sounds like all domestic

The total headcount for state is 80k employees world wide.

These firings are a good start but they got more work to do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (XV/Pl)

194 If they can't be fired there are some unpleasant places to transfer them to I am sure.
Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (YwEeS)

Ocean tide monitor in Sitka, AK.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (g8Ew8)

195 No building in DC can be higher than the Capitol.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)

196 193 The total headcount for state is 80k employees world wide.

These firings are a good start but they got more work to do.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (XV/Pl)

========

This is the beginning of the RIFs that Trump has been trying to implement since day 1.

There's definitely more to come.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

197 Everyone of these fake non-partisan leftist ticks complaining how unfair it is to be laid-off for no reason, did and will cheer for Democrat presidents purging non-communists wholesale from the Exec Branch.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (aBgBM)

198 >Washington Monument is 554 ft tall.
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yeah but the windows don't open

I went up to the top once- very tiny room

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (AOsQT)

199 195 No building in DC can be higher than the Capitol.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)

(Insert joke about libertarians and weed here)

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (TJLr1)

200 Circus cannon, volcano, some assembly required.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (snZF9)

201 >>> 184 174 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."

I’m pretty sure there’s no DOJ exception for Article II. Probably wise to have some level of separation, but we’re being forced back to tit-for-tat rules of engagement.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 11, 2025 02:49 PM (TJLr1)

Can someone point to me where the Department of *Justice* is listed at all? I thought State, War and uhhhm, maybe Interior were the only authentic departments.

...ok, I cheated:
https://shorturl.at/pkfpC

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (ULPxl)

202 "There used to be a line, used to be a very distinct separation between the White House and the Department of Justice, because one should not interfere with the work of the other," Hartman told CBS News. "That line is very definitely gone."

That line was burnt during Trump's first term.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 02:48 PM (8v2yu)

How soon they forget!

Posted by: Chinless Bastard Eric Holder, Obama's Wingman, Held In Congress' Contempt at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (wVcYX)

203 Any federal employee who states, upon any change in their employment, that they are not political, is a frothing Leftist. Even if a conservative federal employee was fired for their politics, they wouldn't whine that "I'm not political."

Posted by: bearski at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (Bhsk7)

204 There used to be a line

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But then Hunter came.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (L/fGl)

205 No raises or promotions for the rest of their employment, ever, but sure, fine, here's your salary for doing absolutely nothing, which will be searchable along with your name via public OPM data.

Some will keep collecting. Others, who have ambitions and who got into government to help effect a fun-duh-mental transformation of the nay-shun, will look elsewhere.

That is my dream.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 02:47

You mean there isn't a database of federal employee salaries and retirements now?
There's one for California, transparent California.com and it's eye-opening.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (CueAq)

206 195 No building in DC can be higher than the Capitol.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (77rzZ)

Ummm, that's not true.

The Washington Monument is actually the current highest building (excluding radio towers) at 555 ft.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:53 PM (tOcjL)

207 ----willow

Local 5,000 watt AM station. Also, recipes and bake sale announcements.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
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Early morning trade/sell/or give away. Listeners call in with those options.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 02:53 PM (Ri+6K)

208 BREAKING: Senate Committee APPROVES $500 million in "assistance" for Ukraine as part of its Fiscal Year 2026 National Defense Funding.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:53 PM (/U5Yz)

209 Keep in mind that what’s on the interwebs is not the sum total of reality. Also, thinking more than 5 minutes ahead is contrary to interweb rules and beyond the ability of the alphabet media.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 11, 2025 02:54 PM (vt7xw)

210 After reading this, if your Schauden-Boner lasts more than four hours....

Posted by: Fritzty at July 11, 2025 02:54 PM (T5dpv)

211 204 There used to be a line

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But then Hunter came.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beav

Pretty sure that ended when they went to a fisa court to get a chance to spy on Trump based on that bullshit meeting they orchestrated with their stooges in england.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 02:54 PM (OA79/)

212 And if you don't count the monument either, the tallest habitable building is the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception - The Capitol is #4 on the habitable list.

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:54 PM (tOcjL)

213 Why are we still sending money to Ukraine? FFS, what a scam.

Fuck you, Lindsey Graham.

I know this is how deals are made, but I'm effing sick of it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (PMtkd)

214 Hey, since we can't talk about Epstein, can we talk about the continued supplying of arms and "assistance" to Ukraine?

Or is that off limits too?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (XV/Pl)

215
Repeat after me:

"Good morning! And welcome to Tradio!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (Tv15w)

216 ACKshually

The Height of Buildings Act of 1910

The new height restriction law was more comprehensive than the previous law, and generally restricts building heights along residential streets to 90 feet (27 m), and along commercial corridors to the width of the right-of-way of the street or avenue on which a building fronts, or a maximum of 130 feet (40 m), whichever is shorter.[3]

basically, buildings in DC can't be taller than the street in front is wide

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (AOsQT)

217 Fire All The Scum!

Posted by: Fire All The Scum! at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (R/m4+)

218 MSPB = Merit Systems Protection Board - I realized I should have spelled that out.
Posted by: Nova Local

TY.

I think the problem is the first word.

I get it. It's called HR. But if you're not needed. You're not needed.

Welcome to AI. Not just for the private sector.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (FxH7T)

219 The tip of the Washington Monument is aluminum, which was rare and expensive at the time of erection. I once read a study about the damage it had accumulated over decades of lightning strikes.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (TwZXH)

220 I know this is how deals are made, but I'm effing sick of it.

So the ways the dems do this stuff is...

Negotiating: Sure we'll give all the money to Lil Z you want

Delivering: Oops, we meant we'll give you none of that money...sorry!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (t0Rmr)

221 189 Interesting to note the sheer size of the pot growing facilities in Camarillo, CA. I guess that all these illegals that are picking grapes and artichokes that Americans refuse to pick have branched out into the really valuable stuff.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 11, 2025 02:50 PM

They use old flower growing greenhouses and the whole are will reek like weed on warm days when they open the vents.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (CueAq)

222 MSPB = Merit Systems Protection Board - I realized I should have spelled that out.
Posted by: Nova Local
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I have often wondered about abbreviations used by government agencies (particularly the armed services). Could there possibly be a compendium of such? Probably would be the size of the Encyclopedia Britannica...if you know what that is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (XeU6L)

223 yes its all part of the Ministry of Silly Walks, thats being charitable, it's become more the Ministry of Love from 1984, which really means Ministry of Pain, the Capitol Hill plantados, a term we imported from that Island paradise,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (bXbFr)

224 It's just a matter of hour in any decision that some Commissar Judge will determine feelings and reverse any government orders.

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (+qU29)

225 They love firing people almost as much as they love beating up women and children. But they won’t even do it in person. They’re just doing it by email? What a bunch of pussy ass bitches

Joe Biden was so good at international diplomacy and the rest of the world was glad to see him. Now what we got? this just gets worse every single day. Fuck Trump and his stupid DOGE agency!

Is the message here to Americans is don't travel? This is actually like an abusive relationship. Don’t talk to the neighbors! They’ll fill your head with LIES!

Tourism is way down here because no one knows what in the hell might happen to them here. I hate to sound paranoid but it’s like they are walking us in and everyone else out.

I guess that's why there's absolutely no diplomacy in this administration. Trump thinks diplomacy is for losers and winners just piss off everyone in the world apparently.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (JCZqz)

226 You mean there isn't a database of federal employee salaries and retirements now?
There's one for California, transparent California.com and it's eye-opening.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:52 PM (CueAq)

China most certainly has all that data now, from "hacks" and "leaks" of OPM systems

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (wVcYX)

227 The congressional oversight committee has told Patel to shove his new costly HQ up his ass. Exist in the building that's falling down around them. Should have done maintenance on it all along aholes.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)

"his" HQ? The plans for that were started long before him. But I saw that and was glad. There's plenty of dead office space from Biden's america to put the FBI bits into far from DC.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (8avO+)

228 The tip of the Washington Monument is aluminum,

So...just the tip Mr Washington?

Posted by: Sandra Fluke's great great great grandmother at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (t0Rmr)

229 Probably would be the size of the Encyclopedia Britannica...if you know what that is.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (XeU6L)

My dad had the World Book Encyclopedia when I was a wee one...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (tOcjL)

230 It's so important, it would literally collapse governments and the global economy!

Which should give you complete confidence in both governments and the global economy.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 02:51 PM (j/vBG)

Right, there is simultaneously nothing to see here, and also if we saw what there wasn't was to see, calamity would strike the country.

Makes sense.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (uCjyK)

231 225 Joe Biden was so good at international diplomacy and the rest of the world was glad to see him. Now what we got? this just gets worse every single day. Fuck Trump and his stupid DOGE agency!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (JCZqz)

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*looks up curiously from the rubble*
-Ukraine

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (GBKbO)

232 >BREAKING: Senate Committee APPROVES $500 million in "assistance" for Ukraine
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did they describe the assistance, or are we just throwing money at them

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (AOsQT)

233 I admit, I like Laura Loomer, but I think she's been wildly harsh on Pamela Bondi. And calling her "Blondi" is not a good look. Makes Loomer look like the jealous female best friend of some dude who's got other female friends.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (gKWVE)

234 Is the message here to Americans is don't travel?

Nothing says "I care about the little people" like complaining that budget cuts might make it slower to get embassy help when abroad.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (t0Rmr)

235 227 The congressional oversight committee has told Patel to shove his new costly HQ up his ass. Exist in the building that's falling down around them. Should have done maintenance on it all along aholes.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)

"his" HQ? The plans for that were started long before him. But I saw that and was glad. There's plenty of dead office space from Biden's america to put the FBI bits into far from DC.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (8avO+)

I thought Patel already announced his plan to move to a different DC building, the one USAID used to have. That's what had MD blow a gasket...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (tOcjL)

236
That's some pretty weak sauce out of DU

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (Tv15w)

237 Public employee unions find twenty Hawaiian judges to say "woh Nelly on those layoffs"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (JtH6i)

238 Washington Monument is 554 ft tall.
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yeah but the windows don't open

I went up to the top once- very tiny room
Posted by: Don Black

If we are throwing out government employees, those windows will be broken out.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (8v2yu)

239 Why give Ukraine anything and prolong the war?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (PMtkd)

240 I just hope Melania Trump hides the rabbits when Loomer comes over.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:59 PM (gKWVE)

241 They use old flower growing greenhouses and the whole are will reek like weed on warm days when they open the vents.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:56 PM (CueAq)

I wonder if a formation of jet fighter aircraft overflew those pot greenhouses at Mach 1.5, would the sonic boom smash all the glass? Would be worth a try, for shits and grins.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 02:59 PM (R4SAT)

242 >Joe Biden was so good at international diplomacy and the rest of the world was glad to see him.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

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this is lunacy

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:59 PM (AOsQT)

243 221 Thanks for the info! Better that we have the flowers that add a bit of beauty and comfort to the world than the pot, which does neither.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 11, 2025 02:59 PM (IeSZF)

244 He's summering with Sofia.

Tom Brady Makes His Move With Sofia Vergara After Viral Photo Sparks Rumors of a “Summer Romance”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:59 PM (L/fGl)

245 227 The congressional oversight committee has told Patel to shove his new costly HQ up his ass. Exist in the building that's falling down around them. Should have done maintenance on it all along aholes.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:27 PM (/U5Yz)

"his" HQ? The plans for that were started long before him. But I saw that and was glad. There's plenty of dead office space from Biden's america to put the FBI bits into far from DC.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025

Prolly knows it's completely shot through with listening devices owned by chynaise and Russia

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (OA79/)

246
Tom Brady Makes His Move With Sofia Vergara After Viral Photo Sparks Rumors of a “Summer Romance”

I just want her to deflate my balls man.

Posted by: Tom Brady at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (t0Rmr)

247 I thought Patel already announced his plan to move to a different DC building, the one USAID used to have. That's what had MD blow a gasket...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (tOcjL)

Last I heard, the FBI was moving to a new building because their current building is "absolute garbage" and is "very old" (as per Kash on Rogan), having been built in the 1970's.

Of course, my apartment building was built in the 1940's and my office building in the 1920's, but hey. I guess the FBI cannot possibly exist in a building from the 1970's.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (uCjyK)

248 "But if you're not needed. You're not needed. Welcome to AI."

It's here to stay. The pace of development and adoption is torrid. People have to get prepared for a whole new definition of 'working.'

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (TwZXH)

249 I fired eight U.S. attorneys and replaced 93 U.S. attorneys in 1993, because I'm awesome!!!!

Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (dIske)

250 Hey, since we can't talk about Epstein, can we talk about the continued supplying of arms and "assistance" to Ukraine?

Or is that off limits too?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (XV/Pl)

Not much to talk about, really. When the arms were coming before Ukraine was losing. With them stopped Ukraine was losing. With them resumed Ukraine will lose.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (8avO+)

251 Explains why so many want Bondi gone, the whispers and "sources" that infiltrate the blogosphere. Some individuals will pay good money to ruin reputations and install their own.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (g47mK)

252 did they describe the assistance, or are we just throwing money at them
Posted by: Don Black
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Goes to a numbered account, followed by transfer to another numbered account...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (XeU6L)

253 232 >BREAKING: Senate Committee APPROVES $500 million in "assistance" for Ukraine
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did they describe the assistance, or are we just throwing money at them
Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:57 PM (AOsQT)

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"The NDAA, passed by the Senate Armed Services Committee with a vote of 26-1 on July 9, 2025, includes a provision to extend the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative through 2028, increasing authorized funding to $500 million from $300 million in 2025...The draft of the bill will make its way through the legislative process in the coming months. The lower House of Representatives kept Ukraine support at $300 million in its version."

Just for added context.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (GBKbO)

254 But who is going to shit in the hallways and watch porn on government computers?

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (f1kZG)

255 42 >Joe Biden was so good at international diplomacy and the rest of the world was glad to see him.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions

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this is lunacy
Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 02:59 PM (AOsQT)

Lol. The dummies dont know they were laughing at him not with him.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (OA79/)

256 BREAKING: Senate Committee APPROVES $500 million in "assistance" for Ukraine

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But we’re getting spending cuts guyzzzz!! No really we are.
😂😂

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (ImXfC)

257 247 I thought Patel already announced his plan to move to a different DC building, the one USAID used to have. That's what had MD blow a gasket...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (tOcjL)

Last I heard, the FBI was moving to a new building because their current building is "absolute garbage" and is "very old" (as per Kash on Rogan), having been built in the 1970's.

Of course, my apartment building was built in the 1940's and my office building in the 1920's, but hey. I guess the FBI cannot possibly exist in a building from the 1970's.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (uCjyK)

To be fair, there are literally nets on the outside of the building to keep folks from getting hurt by chunks falling off the current FBI building. Giving them the USAID building, which is now empty, is smart and cheap...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (tOcjL)

258
How stupid do you have to be to keep voting for this shit?
Posted by: JackStraw

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So you don't have to, I watched the #WalkAway gang enter the lion's den of UC Irvine yesterday, the whole 2+ hours. Dip in literally anywhere (there's a blip of sanity towards the end, around 2:12:00 to 2:17:00 from a girl who doesn't like transing kids) and you'll find out how stupid.

https://youtu.be/Eq9NGuZbsqU

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (UmB+t)

259 249 I fired eight U.S. attorneys and replaced 93 U.S. attorneys in 1993, because I'm awesome!!!!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (dIske)

Old and busted: This is standard operating procedure for a new president.

New hotness: This is literally an attack on democracy!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (TJLr1)

260 So "Summering" means boning?

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (PMtkd)

261 So anyway.

If OrangeManBad were the super duper evil they claim, he would dump all the things except the Departments of State, Treasury and WAR.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (ULPxl)

262 Last I heard, the FBI was moving to a new building because their current building is "absolute garbage" and is "very old" (as per Kash on Rogan), having been built in the 1970's.

Of course, my apartment building was built in the 1940's and my office building in the 1920's, but hey. I guess the FBI cannot possibly exist in a building from the 1970's.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (uCjyK)

I think I heard that they don't get a new building but are moving to other office space emptied and idle.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (8avO+)

263 239 Why give Ukraine anything and prolong the war?
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (PMtkd)

"shut up" they explained.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (uCjyK)

264 Of course, my apartment building was built in the 1940's and my office building in the 1920's, but hey. I guess the FBI cannot possibly exist in a building from the 1970's.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:00 PM (uCjyK)

They are taking over another building, and demo-ing the Hoover building, and in part that is because the FBi is moving most of the staff out of DC

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (D7oie)

265 Why give Ukraine anything and prolong the war?
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (PMtkd)

The funds the US sends to the Ukraine helps to slow human trafficking and the sexual exploitation of minors, especially by older, flaccid men who have money and power.
What? Don't look at me like that!

Posted by: Lindsey Graham, Closeted Homosexual at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (R/m4+)

266 OK, I stand corrected on the Capitol thing.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (77rzZ)

267 My dad had the World Book Encyclopedia when I was a wee one...
Posted by: Nova Local

Did many a book report/foot note backup during fourth grade history with those.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (8v2yu)

268 For too long, whenever there was a news story which portrayed someone on the Right in a negative light, I would briefly consider that the portrayal might be accurate.

The moment I saw Patty Hartman on video, I immediately thought, "Nope, she's lying. She must have done something to deserve getting canned."

And I was right.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 11, 2025 03:03 PM (hMOER)

269 I admit, I like Laura Loomer, but I think she's been wildly harsh on Pamela Bondi. And calling her "Blondi" is not a good look. Makes Loomer look like the jealous female best friend of some dude who's got other female friends.
Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (gKWVE)

Maybe she just liked The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly?

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 03:03 PM (zLwRl)

270 Goes to a numbered account, followed by transfer to another numbered account...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (XeU6L)

Minus 10% for the big guy.

Posted by: Reforger at July 11, 2025 03:03 PM (SJnNf)

271 BREAKING: Senate Committee APPROVES $500 million in "assistance" for Ukraine

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But we’re getting spending cuts guyzzzz!! No really we are.
😂😂
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (ImXfC)

Only 500 million? Har.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:03 PM (8avO+)

272 256 BREAKING: Senate Committee APPROVES $500 million in "assistance" for Ukraine

—

But we’re getting spending cuts guyzzzz!! No really we are.
😂😂
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (ImXfC)

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Relying on the CBO to tell you that the OBBB explodes the debt is silliness. They count keeping tax cuts as lost revenue.

The OBBB's only increases were in ICE and towards Alaska. The cuts were the 31 rescissions, including all unspent funds from the Inflation Reduction Act, and the first welfare reform in 20 years.

Remember, we can't really touch the debt unless we do welfare reform. Wait...not that welfare reform. It won't do anything. Can only cut in ways that hurt sick people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

273 I thought the FBI was abandoning the Hoover building and moving into the Reagan building

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (AOsQT)

274 >> "I serve the American people, the Department of Justice and its mission and the citizens in the district where I work.

Fuck you. Die in a fire.

You don’t serve the American people. You serve the people trying to undermine it and the constitution.

Burger King is hiring. But that probably work out. So
Stake out your space behind a 7-11, biotch.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (Ybx9r)

275 ***laying off more than 1,300 employees Friday, a move that critics say will make us less safe abroad and hurt America's leadership across the globe.
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Nerrrk.
The less meddling State does the better of we are.
No more color revolutions.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (Ri+6K)

276 To be fair, there are literally nets on the outside of the building to keep folks from getting hurt by chunks falling off the current FBI building. Giving them the USAID building, which is now empty, is smart and cheap...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 03:01 PM (tOcjL)

I'm not too worked up about it either way, but on general principle, an office building should last longer than 50 years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (uCjyK)

277 Oh heaven forfend. Working in a building from the 1970s? Those poor babies. Absolutely we need to spend $1B on a new shiny building for them to watch porn in comfortably.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (ImXfC)

278 That's some pretty weak sauce out of DU
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Sorry. They're really focused on immigration raids at the moment, so I didn't have many comments to work with. But c'mon, the "Biden was a beloved/respected diplomat" at least got a chuckle out of me!

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (JCZqz)

279 Now I always pronounce it "helico-pter," just to start conversations.
Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:30 PM (pMi6S)

Heli-couture

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (03kKB)

280 They are taking over another building, and demo-ing the Hoover building, and in part that is because the FBi is moving most of the staff out of DC
Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (D7oie)

Simply moving all the equipment, and office furniture, and phone lines, etc. will carry a heavy price. Probably all has to be done by union slugs, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (R4SAT)

281 seriously the chimps are working on alternate shifts,

but depleted uranium as I called them, is only one kevin bacon deviation from what the Times or the Post publishes

see that fairy tale, Bob Woodward coughed up right before the Election,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (bXbFr)

282 243 221 Thanks for the info! Better that we have the flowers that add a bit of beauty and comfort to the world than the pot, which does neither.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at July 11, 2025 02:59 PM (IeSZF)

A friend of mine used to work for one of the flower companies and they said that NAFTA and some other trade agreement put the flower industry out of business. They can't compete with the growers in South America.
The fields of flower seeds were gorgeous. Maybe Trump will make flowers possible in America again.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (CueAq)

283 Remember, we can't really touch the debt unless we do welfare reform. Wait...not that welfare reform. It won't do anything. Can only cut in ways that hurt sick people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:03 PM (GBKbO)

Gore EVERYONE’S ox. It’s the only way.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 11, 2025 03:05 PM (TJLr1)

284 278 That's some pretty weak sauce out of DU
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Sorry. They're really focused on immigration raids at the moment, so I didn't have many comments to work with. But c'mon, the "Biden was a beloved/respected diplomat" at least got a chuckle out of me!
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (JCZqz)

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"My neighbor's gardener, who my neighbor assures me has lived in America for 50 years despite barely speaking any English, got deported. They're deporting American citizens!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:05 PM (GBKbO)

285 Move, bitch! Get out da way!

https://is.gd/itpnT8

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 03:06 PM (L/fGl)

286 IS this assistance to infuse 300M into some military program ? Patriot missiles are anywhere from 1-7m. Which aligns with what Trump said the other day, sending them a bunch of missiles. So around 100 missiles.

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 03:06 PM (g47mK)

287 >>How stupid do you have to be to keep voting for this shit?
Posted by: JackStraw

At this point you have to assume we’re down to the people who openly support dismantling our democratic republic for something else.

Posted by: Vengeance at July 11, 2025 03:06 PM (Ybx9r)

288 276 To be fair, there are literally nets on the outside of the building to keep folks from getting hurt by chunks falling off the current FBI building.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:04 PM (uCjyK)
______________________

No. You wrong!!! Nets keep 8 year olds from jumping.

Posted by: Anonymous Chinese I-phone minor at July 11, 2025 03:06 PM (dIske)

289 "My neighbor's gardener, who my neighbor assures me has lived in America for 50 years despite barely speaking any English, got deported. They're deporting American citizens!"

Much like the millions of eligible voters supposedly stopped by voter disenfranchisement I suspect the millions of citizens deported by Trump will soon become a leftwing staple. Even if they can't find one actual case of either

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:07 PM (t0Rmr)

290 263 239 Why give Ukraine anything and prolong the war?
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:58 PM (PMtkd)

"shut up" they explained.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:02 PM (uCjyK)

I presume this was in exchange for the BBB deal. It doesn't matter much, in real terms. Trump and his team are not interested in trying to destroy Russia, and trickling in of arms won't change anything.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:07 PM (8avO+)

291
You mean there isn't a database of federal employee salaries and retirements now?
There's one for California, transparent California.com and it's eye-opening.
Posted by: CaliGirl

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I don't think there's a single database, but we'd make sure that OPM makes all the sit-at-homes easily accessible.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:07 PM (UmB+t)

292
She told CBS News she had been fired without due process and said she's considering a legal challenge over her termination.

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She serves at the pleasure of the Chief Executive, and is fired at the further pleasure of the Chief Executive.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at July 11, 2025 03:07 PM (QwK6F)

293 [O/T lol:]

Just heard a Local AM radio announcer reporting on the outcome of senior softball games -- and one of the teams that got beat is named "We've Got The Runs."

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 03:07 PM (idUt2)

294 isnt that spooning

Posted by: miguel cervantes at July 11, 2025 03:08 PM (bXbFr)

295 93 [O/T lol:]

Just heard a Local AM radio announcer reporting on the outcome of senior softball games -- and one of the teams that got beat is named "We've Got The Runs."
Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day'

LOL

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 03:09 PM (/U5Yz)

296 Renamed USAID clones and cousins hardest hit !

[I saw Clones And Cousins open for ...]

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 03:09 PM (idUt2)

297 It’s ONLY $500M to the zines. No biggie. Until the next $100M and the next $200M. Thats how we got where we are now. Our $40T debt is made up by a lot of “just $500M” expenditures.

It’s like someone trying to lose weight and eating just one cookie. Yeah that shit don’t work. Because the one cookie turns into 2 cookies and then into the whole box.l

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 03:09 PM (ImXfC)

298 War!

What is it good for?

$500,000,000!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 03:09 PM (L/fGl)

299 I really need to figure out how to apply for this.

Just because I don*t live in CA, they can*t deny me because that*s racist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Step one, knock it off with all this speaky the english. Fill out that application in spanish. Or better yet, mandarin.

Posted by: Clay at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (wLj9Q)

300 You can come to work if you want to but remember, your name has be deleted from the payroll computer.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (Ri+6K)

301 Move, bitch! Get out da way!
https://is.gd/itpnT8
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 03:06 PM (L/fGl)

Nice! Dude even added his own sound effects...Bang! Bang! Bang!

Like 1960s Batman.

Posted by: Beat That Ass at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (R/m4+)

302 Four cabinet departments:
War;
State;
Treasury;
Interior.

That’s it. And the they should be specified in the Constitution.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (77rzZ)

303 It's a closed ring of Wormtongues all tongue-ing each other's worms, and nary a Theoden in sight.

"I serve the American people"

My ass.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (BjH5D)

304 IS this assistance to infuse 300M into some military program ? Patriot missiles are anywhere from 1-7m. Which aligns with what Trump said the other day, sending them a bunch of missiles. So around 100 missiles.
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 03:06 PM (g47mK)

A lot of the money supposed to go to the Ukraine war was actually orders to US arms makers to build weapons going forward. I suppose this might be that, in which case we can just keep them for ourselves.

It also might be a 'relabeling' of arms already sent by Biden in the pipeline.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (8avO+)

305
"If an educational program of an institution of higher education subject to this subsection does not meet the cohort median earning requirements, as described in paragraph (2), for one year during the applicable covered period but has not yet failed to meet such requirements for 2 years during such covered period, the institution shall promptly inform each student enrolled in the educational program of the eligible program's low cohort median earnings and that the educational program is at risk of losing its eligibility for funds under this part."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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I love it. But just to note, they'd better spell out font size, color, prominence on website and in printed materials, etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (UmB+t)

306 299 I really need to figure out how to apply for this.

Just because I don*t live in CA, they can*t deny me because that*s racist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Step one, knock it off with all this speaky the english. Fill out that application in spanish. Or better yet, mandarin.
Posted by: Clay at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (wLj9Q)

Have someone fill it out in spanish and you're illiterate, just make your mark on the line.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 03:10 PM (CueAq)

307 Did many a book report/foot note backup during fourth grade history with those.
Posted by: rickb223
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Meh...theres an app for that now, AI dude.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 03:11 PM (XeU6L)

308 Honestly, I don't care if the FIB building comes crashing down around the worthless anti-American layabouts it houses. Maybe someone could pick out what happened in Vegas and other dark crimes from the rubble.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 03:11 PM (/U5Yz)

309 1975: If we stop paying for the war it will end. War what's it good for? Absolutely nothing!

2025: If we stop paying for the war it will end. War what's it good for? $500,000,000 in cold hard cash!

/Special thanks to Anonosaurus Wrecks

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:11 PM (t0Rmr)

310 I was curious about June running a federal surplus, so I looked up deficit tracking here:

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/
report/deficit-tracker/

Some months seem to traditionally run a surplus, usually April (obviously), but mostly it's just different degrees of up. June's behavior based on the 4 years of previous data in the chart seems to be largely just continuing the trend up.

An actual jump down in June seems ahistorical and significant.

We'll see if anything continues into July.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:12 PM (GBKbO)

311 I doubled up my payments and dropped some one time 10 k payments and it all went to principal for about three years.

That's the way to do it.

Heck, even paying the usual minimum with no interest accrual would have helped people get ahead.

But apparently a whole bunch were of the "if it's not mandatory right now, I'm not doing it" mindset.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 03:13 PM (a+4eV)

312 Would that it were that the title of this post was ‘Trump firing Thousands and Thousands of Federal employees…..’ versus hundreds and hundreds.

Maybe next year….

Posted by: Voter theater. at July 11, 2025 03:13 PM (FCPbW)

313 Generally if you are mad at some dude twice your size and he calmly tells you not to start a fight you should probably listen to him.

A) Because he's twice as big as you

B) Generally if someone is calm in this kind of situation he's been in fights. And won them.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:13 PM (t0Rmr)

314 Well I'm bummed.

I accidently messed up Brave and now I can't re-install it.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 03:14 PM (fV+MH)

315 It’s like someone trying to lose weight and eating just one cookie. Yeah that shit don’t work. Because the one cookie turns into 2 cookies and then into the whole box.l
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 03:09 PM (ImXfC)

Especially if they're fig newtons. You can never eat just one.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:14 PM (uCjyK)

316 Would that it were that the title of this post was ‘Trump firing Thousands and Thousands of Federal employees…..’ versus hundreds and hundreds.

Maybe next year….
Posted by: Voter theater. at July 11, 2025 03:13 PM (FCPbW)

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

things somebody said

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 03:15 PM (R4SAT)

317 >>The thing with the Epstein clients, beyond the outrage at what they did to children, is that if they have the influence to tell (apparently) Trump's DoJ that the law doesn't apply to them, even in (speculated) exchange for favors like the BBB, it is certain they're continuing to use their influence in less obvious ways elsewhere.

Or it's something different. Epstein's clientele included world leaders including allies. That's a mighty powerful bargaining chip for a guy who likes doing deals.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 03:15 PM (viF8m)

318 This is what I voted for.

Posted by: Seamus Moon at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (Ab/3c)

319 Has anyone told the corrupt FBIies to learn to code yet?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 02:41 PM (t0Rmr)

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Elric came up with one better (no surprise consdering how how Blade-y he is) at 118.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:42 PM (GBKbO)
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The Blade-ist!

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (iFTx/)

320 She serves at the pleasure of the Chief Executive, and is fired at the further pleasure of the Chief Executive.

The Chief Executive's voters find her firing quite pleasurable as well.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (2ocoG)

321 316 Would that it were that the title of this post was ‘Trump firing Thousands and Thousands of Federal employees…..’ versus hundreds and hundreds.

Maybe next year….
Posted by: Voter theater. at July 11, 2025 03:13 PM (FCPbW)

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

things somebody said
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 03:15 PM (R4SAT)

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Everyone who took the buyout is still considered an employee until the time on their employment runs out which will be the end of September.

That's gonna be a lot suddenly gone, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

322 Well I'm bummed.

I accidently messed up Brave and now I can't re-install it.
Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 03:14 PM (fV+MH)

Uninstall it completely. Then try and scrub any registry entry and any directory it made on the system. That might let you reinstall.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (8avO+)

323 "If an educational program of an institution of higher education subject to this subsection does not meet the cohort median earning requirements, as described in paragraph (2), for one year during the applicable covered period but has not yet failed to meet such requirements for 2 years during such covered period, the institution shall promptly inform each student enrolled in the educational program of the eligible program's low cohort median earnings and that the educational program is at risk of losing its eligibility for funds under this part."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

... so they're only denying student loans for programs within a university? So, you can pay for some of the credit hours with student loans directly, as you do now, but the rest you'll have to wait to pay for until you get the remainder of your student loan disbursement from the university Accounts Payable, and then you pay for the rest of your credits?

That will certainly sow chaos and disorder on the Student Accounts side of things.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (a+4eV)

324 Or it's something different. Epstein's clientele included world leaders including allies. That's a mighty powerful bargaining chip for a guy who likes doing deals.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 03:15 PM (viF8m)

You think the CIA / Deep State would turn that client list over to Trump, then he would use it as blackmail against the people diddling kids? And that's what's going on behind the scenes?

Color me dubious.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:17 PM (uCjyK)

325 323... so they're only denying student loans for programs within a university? So, you can pay for some of the credit hours with student loans directly, as you do now, but the rest you'll have to wait to pay for until you get the remainder of your student loan disbursement from the university Accounts Payable, and then you pay for the rest of your credits?

That will certainly sow chaos and disorder on the Student Accounts side of things.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (a+4eV)

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The OBBB really changed the student loan game. A lot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:17 PM (GBKbO)

326 I guess Bondi and Bongino went at it and Bongino took the day off, rumor was he quit - but other rumors say that's not true.

Posted by: Inogame at July 11, 2025 03:17 PM (53oGX)

327 "This is what I voted for.

Posted by: Seamus Moon "

Yup.

Ms Hartmann doesn't like it apparently.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 03:17 PM (fV+MH)

328 Or it's something different. Epstein's clientele included world leaders including allies. That's a mighty powerful bargaining chip for a guy who likes doing deals.

At least to this point the likely Epstein clients are American/British elites.

You could certainly be correct, but it would certainly be a different cast of villains then we currently know about.

Could explain how Fred Mertz went from an anti-socialist to Fuhrer of the Fourth Reich though I guess

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:17 PM (t0Rmr)

329 326 I guess Bondi and Bongino went at it and Bongino took the day off, rumor was he quit - but other rumors say that's not true.
Posted by: Inogame at July 11, 2025 03:17 PM (53oGX)

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Other rumors indicate that he cuts his hair with a cheese grater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:18 PM (GBKbO)

330 Hartman exclaimed, how dare they disrupt my fiefdom that I have had for twenty years. Don't they know who I am?

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 03:18 PM (HFcKg)

331 Does it have keys you have to do a seek and destroy on? Brave. I had to do that to get a Total War game to reinstall. Can't remember proper terminology.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 03:18 PM (bvNHo)

332 ABC News@ABC
A Michigan deacon who used his pickup truck to stop an armed gunman outside a church last month received a new Ford F-150 from a local dealership on Thursday.

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Well, his old one had scumbag guts all over it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 03:18 PM (L/fGl)

333 "Uninstall it completely. Then try and scrub any registry entry and any directory it made on the system. That might let you reinstall.

Posted by: Oldcat"

Yeah...it's definitely detecting some stray remnants.

Posted by: eleven at July 11, 2025 03:18 PM (fV+MH)

334 Remember ladies, if you eat a cookie you have to worry about your figure, but if you eat a ship full of seamen instead you'll fit into your cute summer outfits in no time!

Posted by: Diet advice from Sandra Fluke at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (t0Rmr)

335 I was curious about June running a federal surplus, so I looked up deficit tracking here:

I think this is first I've ever heard of anyone paying attention to monthly surpluses.

Makes me wonder how Congress is going to use it as an excuse to ask for more money.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (a+4eV)

336
Or it's something different. Epstein's clientele included world leaders including allies. That's a mighty powerful bargaining chip for a guy who likes doing deals.
Posted by: JackStraw

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This begins to freak me out a bit about the state of humanity. Like, everyone who can molest an underage girl with impunity, does so?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (UmB+t)

337 Everyone who took the buyout is still considered an employee until the time on their employment runs out which will be the end of September.

That's gonna be a lot suddenly gone, too.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (GBKbO)

Another thing to consider: suppose Trump had fired 40,000 Feds as soon as he took the oath of office? Aside from a few well-known miscreants, how does he even know the bad from the merely useless? Doing it more slowly keeps the fuckers on tenterhooks for months. I'll bet the sales of Pepto-Bismol in the Swamp area have skyrocketed.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 03:20 PM (R4SAT)

338 I doubled up my payments and dropped some one time 10 k payments and it all went to principal for about three years.

That's the way to do it.

Heck, even paying the usual minimum with no interest accrual would have helped people get ahead.

But apparently a whole bunch were of the "if it's not mandatory right now, I'm not doing it" mindset.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 03:13 PM (a+4eV)

I overpayed each payment from the start on mine in the 90s. Thus a chunk of principal was being gone every month

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:20 PM (8avO+)

339 The thought of war blows my mind.

Posted by: Don Black at July 11, 2025 03:20 PM (AOsQT)

340 You think the CIA / Deep State would turn that client list over to Trump, then he would use it as blackmail against the people diddling kids? And that's what's going on behind the scenes?

I think they're going to turn it over, but probably not willingly. And only after more of them have been fired.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:20 PM (2ocoG)

341 These prosecutors should be homeless and sucking dick for food

Fuck em all

Posted by: melodicmetal1 at July 11, 2025 03:20 PM (McrHD)

342 This begins to freak me out a bit about the state of humanity. Like, everyone who can molest an underage girl with impunity, does so?

Its more you get invited to parties with escalating kompromat activities.

The activity you stop at determines how far you go.

Hookers and blow? You get to be a run of the mill congress-critter. Epstein Island stuff? Hello Senate!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:21 PM (t0Rmr)

343
To be fair, there are literally nets on the outside of the building to keep folks from getting hurt by chunks falling off the current FBI building. Giving them the USAID building, which is now empty, is smart and cheap...
Posted by: Nova Local

At least they are not anti-suicide nets.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 03:21 PM (63Dwl)

344 This is what I voted for.

Posted by: Seamus Moon

Yup.

Ms Hartmann doesn*t like it apparently.
Posted by: eleven

She*s a federal employee. She probably thinks it doesn*t count because we only voted once. Hell, we*re not even dead.

Posted by: Clay at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (wLj9Q)

345 @328

>>At least to this point the likely Epstein clients are American/British elites.

It's obvious that Epstein was a IC/Deep State Western/Anglosphere Kompromat generator to gain and maintain control of Western/Anglosphere politicians, tech titans, and other sundry actors.

None of this activity was directed at supposed enemies.

This was an internal op directed perpetrated against We The People.

Again, the anger over this is never going away.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (XV/Pl)

346 This begins to freak me out a bit about the state of humanity. Like, everyone who can molest an underage girl with impunity, does so?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (UmB+t)

The Conservative Case For Pimping Out Minor Children to the "Elite" for Blackmail Purposes

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 03:22 PM (uCjyK)

347 Uninstall it completely. Then try and scrub any registry entry and any directory it made on the system. That might let you reinstall.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 03:16 PM (8avO+)

Windows and Linux systems usually have a "system restore" function that can roll back the system to a date before the offending software was installed. And it does this without risk of destroying non-executable files.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 03:23 PM (R4SAT)

348 Another thing to consider: suppose Trump had fired 40,000 Feds as soon as he took the oath of office? Aside from a few well-known miscreants, how does he even know the bad from the merely useless?

I think they're probably using the DOGE method to find the actual bad guys. For instance, when Bondi claimed to have the Epstein list, Big Balls could have been watching whose email/Slack/etc lit up like a Christmas tree. That's how I'd do it.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 11, 2025 03:23 PM (2ocoG)

349 Remember the NVIXIM guy?

One of the first things he did when a woman wanted to join was demand proof of something he could black mail her over - affairs, drugs, abortion, theft, etc.

Because it made sure one he let them in they wouldn't go off the reservation.

Same thing with Epstein and the US government...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 03:24 PM (t0Rmr)

350 It was registry keys. Problem is you have to ID them. For my Total War Game this required a forum. Once you know what it's called you can search it in Windows and manually delete it.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 03:24 PM (bvNHo)

351 Crap Cleaner kept this from reoccuring for me.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 03:26 PM (bvNHo)

352 Public servant?

Traditionally, servants don't earn more that their masters.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 11, 2025 03:26 PM (Vfq+S)

353 This begins to freak me out a bit about the state of humanity. Like, everyone who can molest an underage girl with impunity, does so?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 03:19 PM (UmB+t)

The Conservative Case For Pimping Out Minor Children to the "Elite" for Blackmail Purposes
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Burn the pimps and the elites.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 03:26 PM (8v2yu)

354 Nood quick hits

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (TJLr1)

355 341 These prosecutors should be homeless and sucking dick for food

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Saw a homeless guy once with a sign that said It’s either your generous donation or sucking dick.

I wish I had some cash on hand I would have given it to him for the chuckle.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (ImXfC)

356 U nas yest’ NOOD.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 03:28 PM (77rzZ)

357 >>> 316 Would that it were that the title of this post was ‘Trump firing Thousands and Thousands of Federal employees…..’ versus hundreds and hundreds.

Maybe next year….
Posted by: Voter theater. at July 11, 2025 03:13 PM (FCPbW)

The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

things somebody said
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 03:15 PM (R4SAT)

Well, next year *is* the (too lazy to look up the correct word) 250th anniversary of 'Murica. So, Trump firing thousands of feralgov employees out of dee cee from trebuchets could make a nice start on the big day.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (ULPxl)

358 Reports: Metadata shows Epstein tape was edited and saved multiple times; Bongino takes leave of absence after spat with AG Bondi

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NTTAWWT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 03:29 PM (L/fGl)

359 @302 the fourth cabinet department when the nation came into being was the Attorney General (later Justice). Interior came in later. Get rid of it except for National Parks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (JtH6i)

360 aaaaannnd

it's willowed.

Anybody call NOOD?

queers for muslims, aka Darwin awards

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 03:30 PM (ULPxl)

361 Senate bill for Ukraine graft? Veto, it President Trump! Do it with much fan fare, so they know what it's like.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 11, 2025 03:32 PM (wBaIH)

362 Never forget that the very term "bureaucracy" was devised as a bitterly sarcastic observation that our real rulers that lord over us are not the wealthy (plutocracy) or the general populace (democracy) or the social elites (aristocracy), but instead the faceless, soulless government functionaries who actually are the ones with the hands on the levers of power, supposedly at the behest of and taking orders from the the people or the elite, but who actually ling ago went rogue and realized that they, the ones with their hands on the levers, actually control everything, asnd no ne can stop them.

And then came Trump.
Posted by: zombie at July 11, 2025 02:39 PM (pMi6S)

120 This is way more important to me that the

Living in Michigan we had a similar thing. If you lived in Grosse Pointe you owned the car company, if you managed the car company, you lived in Bloomfield Hills.

Posted by: Chillin the mist at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (Ofe5D)

363 @Polymarket . 1h

_ The DOJ released footage from Epstein’s cell was edited with Adobe Premiere Pro, stitched from 2 clips
— WIRED

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 03:41 PM (Ri+6K)

364 @RealAlexJones . 1h

_ AG Pam Bondi To Take The Blame For The Epstein Case Whitewash Political Firestorm Before Her Ultimate Removal, According To FBI & WH Intel Sources

PLUS, FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino Will Resign Soon, But Kash Patel Will Stay On Head Of Agency

"Pam Bondi Will Be Trump's Sacrificial Lamb On This"
----

Is it real or is it just really Alex?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 03:48 PM (Ri+6K)

365 @julie_kelly2
2h
Sources confirm to me the blow up between Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi is very real. This has been brewing for four months and came to a head at the White House on Wednesday.

He has not been in the office since.

Most of the frustration at FBI relates to her handling of Epstein disclosures and disputes between FBI and Bondi about how to proceed.

Bongino appears ready to resign imminently if Bondi remains in office

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 03:51 PM (Ri+6K)

366 "The State Department is laying off more than 1,300 employees Friday, a move that critics say will make us less safe abroad and hurt America's leadership across the globe."

How? I mean that's a pretty bold claim.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (gDhA9)

367 Due process? At my office it is an e-mail of Friday telling you to pack your shit.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 04:12 PM (gDhA9)

368 Funny - all these super smart people thought that persecuting/prosecuting J6 protestors was all going to be upside and gravy.

Any of these smucks put up their hand and say "gee, you think we might be going a little...hard on these people?"

Nope - these are career prosecutors, meaning they do whatever the people in charge tell them to do.

And now you want...what? mercy? You're just losing your job. You held people incommunicado for years. Over ginned up charges.

I can't muster up a whole lot of sympathy. And seriously - the J6 people should have been punished. But it went way way too far.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 04:16 PM (gDhA9)

369 What I would like to see is an expansion of the department that issues H-2A visas, "Temporary Agricultural Workers". They get vetted. They get tracked. They can come here and work for better wages. Their employer must then adhere to labor laws and standards, and if their employer attempts to exploit them they now have standing to sue. It's my understanding that only about 5% of all illegal aliens are out there picking crops; most illegal aliens head to our cities, so it's not going to be a massive influx of people. We get the crops picked, they get money to send home (maybe no tax on money they send home if they show a valid visa), and it takes away a leftist complaint.

No visas for people who landscape corporate lawns or private mansions in Illinois or are nannys or gardeners for matrons on Martha's Vineyard, though. Those are not essential jobs.

Posted by: RonF at July 11, 2025 05:24 PM (l8nW6)

370 Apparently these folks should re-read the Constitution. Article II, Section 1:

"The Executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America."

Seems clear to me. I don't see an exception for the Department of Justice.

Posted by: RonF at July 11, 2025 05:28 PM (l8nW6)

371 There is SCOTUS decision [Loudermill] dealing with pre-termination hearings for individual govt employees who are fired. Of course, there are nuances. RIFs and lay-offs are different.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at July 11, 2025 06:27 PM (CvfjE)

Fake Republicans Are Blocking Trump's Minor, 0.2% Recission Package
Plus: Was the "One Big Beautiful Bill" Actually... Good?

A rescission package to trim a mere 0.2% from the nine trillion dollar budget is being blocked by the usual fake Republican saboteurs, and a couple of their new allies, writes Matt Vespa at Townhall.

The House did their job and passed the rescission package, but currently, it's in jeopardy because the same group of troublemakers in the Senate; Sens. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) and Susan Collins (R-ME) are holding up the measure over concerns about cutting programs that are a complete waste of taxpayer money. What's worse is that they've found new allies in Jerry Moran (R-KS) and Mike Rounds (R-SD) and Dan Sullivan (R-AK) .
So, let's clear the air on some of the cuts that some of these senators find problematic. First, defunding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting ($1.1 billion) has been a conservative goal for a generation. It's biased, its CEO is aloof (and biased), and PBS has been overtly projecting Democrat propaganda for years. They don't need our money to stay afloat; they can sink or swim like the rest of us.
The Democracy Fund--$83 million--bankrolled programs for "Yemen community resilience" and spent millions on LGBT nonsense in the Balkan States. The Economic Support Fund--$1.65 billion--produced Iraqi Sesame Street, pride parades in Lesotho, and millions to subsidize Palestinian media companies.
Development Assistance was a $2.5 billion boondoggle that tried to get electric buses off the ground in Rwanda, a vegan food consumer base in Zambia, and civic engagement operations in authoritarian Zimbabwe. Folks, this is first-world, urban, liberal nonsense. For starters, eating 'vegan' is an elite privilege. Most people would die of starvation on that diet, and that goes double for the people of Africa. You need to eat meat to survive. Period. There's a reason why the late Anthony Bourdain compared vegans to Hezbollah, at least in the culinary arts.
The Bush-era President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR) isn't going to be crushed, which you know is going to be a liberal talking point. The package preserves the $10 billion program that's saved countless lives, but funding for programs about transgender sex in Nepal, LGBT advocacy in Uganda, and free training in pastry making for male prostitutes are in the trash bin.
International peacekeeping, which has been rife with fraud, is taking a $1 billion haircut.

And of course Lisa Murkowski and now her Alaskan colleague Dan Sullivan object -- which is likely a scheme to pressure Trump to give unnecessary billions in porkbarrel spending to Alaska.

Boy, the "conservative" state of Alaska is turning out to be a lot more socialist and subsidy-dependent than I would have guessed.

We passed a budget of nine trillion dollars but we can't cut just six billion. And we're also not tough enough to do what's right and primary these motherf***ers out of office.

Chuck Schumer says he'll shut down the government before he allows 0.2% to be rescinded from the budget.

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer is signaling he could plunge the country into a partial government shutdown if Republicans move forward with rescinding just a fraction of a percent of government spending.
The Senate is expected to vote on a request from the White House to claw back $1.1 billion in public broadcasting funding and $8.3 billion in foreign aid next week. Schumer has threatened that Democrats will reject a government funding deal for the upcoming fiscal year if Republicans pass President Donald Trump's $9.4 billion rescission package, which could trigger a partial government shutdown at the end of September.
"Ask the Republicans why they are heading on this path," Schumer said at a Senate Democratic leadership press conference Wednesday in response to a question citing his previous warnings about the alleged harmful effects of letting government funding lapse. "We are doing everything we can to keep the bipartisan appropriations process going. And they're undermining it with rescissions, with pocket rescissions, with impoundment and every other way."
Schumer's implicit shutdown threat is a noticeable departure from his decision to avert a lapse in government funding in March by supplying the votes to pass a Trump-backed stopgap spending bill. The Democratic leader's decision to avoid a government shutdown earlier in the year infuriated the party's base, leading Schumer to postpone a scheduled book tour. Elected Democrats across the country criticized his leadership.
Senate Majority Leader John Thune criticized Schumer's recent remarks appearing to use the rescissions package as leverage in the anticipated government funding showdown later this year. Schumer wrote a "Dear Colleague" letter Tuesday warning of "consequences that will be felt far beyond the halls of power" if Republicans claw back funding for public broadcasting and foreign aid.
"I was disappointed to see the Democrat leader ... implicitly threaten to shut down the government," Thune said on the Senate floor Wednesday. "But I'm hopeful that that is not the position of the Democrat Party, the Democrat conference here in the Senate, and that we can work together in the coming weeks to pass bipartisan appropriations bills."
"Funding the government is our chief priority before October, but that won't stop us from considering additional measures," Thune said, in an implicit reference to the rescissions package.

On to the OBBB ("One Big Beautiful Bill"):

I know TJM has been praising it, but he also won't shut the f*** up about Prometheus, so... shrug.

But other people who do not bang on about Prometheus think the bill is something:

Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
If the OBBB passes, ICE will be supercharged on a massive scale:
- $45 billion to more than double ICE detention capacity to roughly 100k beds.
- $14 billion for transport & removal.
- $8 billion to hire 10,000 additional ICE personnel, more than doubling current 5k deportation officers.
- $1.3 billion for ICE OPLA (additional attorneys & support staff).
- $858 million for signing & retention bonuses.
- $787 for state/local participation in ICE/DHS efforts.
- $700 million for technology enhancements.
- $650 million for 287g/local ICE cooperation.
- $600 million for recruitment, hiring, & onboarding.
- $200 million for fleet modernization.

- $20 million to detain aliens with their children.
Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons told me this funding would be a "game changer" for the agency.
This would give one of President Trump's biggest agenda items - mass deportations - a massive shot in the arm.

Colonel Kurt Schilchter, who ran, as he called it, the "most heavily armed car-wash in the Balkans" during the Kosovo War, also praises the bill.

The Democrat crowing about how the Big Beautiful Bill is going to be the doom of the Republicans is about as convincing as Zohran Mamdami's college app claim that he's a black guy; in his defense, he is more Indian than Elizabeth Warren, in a manner of speaking. Though their social media doofuses and regime media toe-sucks are hooting about how Hakeem Jeffries set a record for running his fool mouth and how voters will totally be angry with the GOP for killing eleventy million people -- the BBB is even deadlier than net neutrality, climate change, and not allowing confused children mutilate themselves to conform to their delusions combined -- this is a huge and humiliating loss. It is also a rare exception to the usual GOP MO of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Let's get the obvious out of the way -- this victory capped perhaps the most potent first six months of a presidency ever. Donald Trump came in kicking commie tush, and for the last half-year, he's been landing score after score while melting every temporary setback his detractors have dealt him. Just a month ago, Iran had a nuclear program. Now, it's a smoking ruin. Today, no innocent honor student undocumented migrant can walk home from reading to orphans without living in fear that ICE will disappear him into an alligator-guarded gulag. DEI is DOA, the stock market is setting records, and colleges are bending the knee to the hated King. Heck, he has even ended the Rwanda-Congo War and brought peace to Zohran Mamdami's people.
But, without the BBB passing, it would have been all for naught. The Democrats knew it, and they went all out to stop it. When the sky doesn't fall and the Dow soars higher, they get to explain, "Sure, Trump's brought America a new Golden Age, but his tweets are still really mean!"
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It's so weird to be saying good things about GOP congressional leaders, but John Thune -- he sounds like an MCU villain who fights Iron Man -- made it happen without blowing up the filibuster or setting a bad precedent.
...
Okay, Mike Johnson. Who the hell is this guy? Where did he come from? When he got voted Speaker, most of us thought he was an asterisk on a placeholder. Mitch would have to score him an eight-ball of his cocaine just to get the preternaturally serene southerner up to "mild-mannered." And yet, he did the impossible, again and again, somehow bringing together utterly incompatible factions to create that nearly invisible area of overlap in the Venn Diagram that was the BBB. He did the impossible. And you know what else they are saying is impossible? Expanding the House GOP majority in 2026.

...
And the losers? I mean, besides the entire Democrat Party? The Lol-bertarian Twins Rand Paul and Thomas Massie believed their own hype of being stalwart, principled iconoclasts standing in the breach. The Freedom Caucus got something by being a pain; these two got zilch and succeeded in doing what many believed impossible -- making libertarians even more annoying. There's no universe where their ideological fantasies pass any House or Senate that might ever exist on Earth.
Trump must crush Massie unmercifully as a cautionary example of those who don't get on the team. Paul still has a cycle to get his head right, but we're tired of smug talk. We want wins on the scoreboard, not some dork showboating for sophomoric incel fanboys by failing to accomplish anything except making sure no one else can accomplish anything, either. And if the passage of the BBB helps rid us of them, that's yet another reason to celebrate.

Kurt's new book, American Apocalypse: The Second Civil War, comes out next week.

Posted by: Ace at 01:13 PM

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1 Howdy!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (rbKZ6)

2 1st

Posted by: GF at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (Uyx8K)

3 Same as it ever was.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (ExV1e)

4 I know TJM has been praising it, but he also won't shut the f*** up about Prometheus, so... shrug.

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Ouch, baby.

Very ouch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

5 Primaries. Name them and fire them.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (oYtl5)

6 i nooded

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 01:15 PM (aBgBM)

7 That must be where that national debt thing came from.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:15 PM (bvNHo)

8 There is as much to praise as there is to condemn. It is a target rich environment, so to praise, at least we did the impossible and passed a bill.

Posted by: Corona_Exile at July 11, 2025 01:15 PM (UqsCH)

9 Even though Fedgov is spending 4X what it was 20 years ago we can't cut anything.

Posted by: Pol Pot at July 11, 2025 01:16 PM (t0Rmr)

10 Ouch, baby.

Very ouch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

At least he calls you baby, ace.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 11, 2025 01:17 PM (Yamow)

11 Jimmy Carter's one good idea... zero baseline budgeting.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:17 PM (ExV1e)

12 Boy, the "conservative" state of Alaska is turning out to be a lot more socialist and subsidy-dependent than I would have guessed.

our government hasn't been anything near conservative since Reagan. At best the apparatus is centrist at the moment.

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 01:17 PM (dCxaZ)

13 Chuck Schumer says he'll shut down the government before he allows 0.2% to be rescinded from the budget.

Shut up and do it. And federal workers don't get paid until it reopens.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 01:18 PM (M0V4/)

14 9 Even though Fedgov is spending 4X what it was 20 years ago we can't cut anything.

Posted by: Pol Pot at July 11, 2025 01:16 PM (t0Rmr)

Rice bowls. You know all about that, Pol.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 01:18 PM (aBgBM)

15 The globohomo money to Uganda is because the country told Big Gay to f*ck off.

And my favorite video to ever come out of Uganda: https://tinyurl.com/3un5ekzp

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:18 PM (t0Rmr)

16 How many balanced budgets has Rand Paul helped pass so far?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:18 PM (bvNHo)

17 By 1990s standards President Trump is a centrist Democrat.

The fact he is to the right of the GOP speaks to its decline.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:19 PM (t0Rmr)

18 Now's the time for Rand Paul (and Massie, to a lesser extent) to put up or shut up.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at July 11, 2025 01:19 PM (BMHsU)

19 The Blade also liked the BBB. He doesn't like Prometheus. But he eats shit like coyote, bobcat, guinea pig, python, and beaver.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (iFTx/)

20 Boy, the "conservative" state of Alaska is turning out to be a lot more socialist and subsidy-dependent than I would have guessed.

You're looking at this the wrong way. Alaska's Senators want to conserve spending at the current level.

Considering all the things we want to change about American governance, we really need to stop calling ourselves "conservative".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (ExV1e)

21 How many balanced budgets has Rand Paul helped pass so far?

Well, he and his bestest gym bros have stayed under budget on poppers and baby oil so far 3 months out of 6 this year.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (t0Rmr)

22 Prometheus brought the fire iirc.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (bvNHo)

23 Wasn't there a lot of election reform language in the bill? I seem to recall a mandatory valid ID requirement to vote in a federal election, if I'm not mistaken.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

24 And federal workers don't get paid until it reopens.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 01:18 PM (M0V4/)

And fire all workers deemed non-essential.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (ExV1e)

25 It is beyond me why anybody thinks Alaska and Maine are conservative states. Both are 3rd world cesspools with great scenery. Their economies are based on corruption, welfare, more corruption, and meth cooking.

Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 11, 2025 01:21 PM (9X60i)

26 9 The Blade also liked the BBB. He doesn't like Prometheus. But he eats shit like coyote, bobcat, guinea pig, python, and beaver.

Well, beaver can definitely be good eating.

Posted by: Obligatory at July 11, 2025 01:21 PM (t0Rmr)

27 The OBBB is a pile of crap studded with exquisite truffles.
We would like nothing but truffles, but certain people have a need to keep the crap flowing.
However, without Trump, we would only get a pile of crap studded with razor blades and DCon rat poison, so I guess we get what we got.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 01:21 PM (D7oie)

28 23 Wasn't there a lot of election reform language in the bill? I seem to recall a mandatory valid ID requirement to vote in a federal election, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

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I think it was in the House version, but the Senate version didn't have any of it.

Still, there's the SAVE act that could get passed...at some point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:21 PM (GBKbO)

29 And fire all workers deemed non-essential.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

1. Congress
2. Activist Federal Judges
3.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 01:22 PM (M0V4/)

30 The Blade also liked the BBB. He doesn't like Prometheus. But he eats shit like coyote, bobcat, guinea pig, python, and beaver.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (iFTx/)

Well, most real men will eat beaver if she asks.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)

31 Back in the 2015 era Alaska had the highest percent of welfare recipients per captia of any state.

Grubby ice people.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:22 PM (viF8m)

32 Department of Agriculture.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:22 PM (bvNHo)

33
I know TJM has been praising it, but he also won't shut the f*** up about Prometheus, so... shrug.

*snort*

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 01:22 PM (y9nCu)

34 A GOP that can’t cut PBS doesn’t deserve to survive as a viable party

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 01:23 PM (xT8gx)

35 Alaska just seems to vote GOP because they got a better deal from the Republicans, not because of any stands on values or principles.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at July 11, 2025 01:23 PM (s19xO)

36 i love these shit pebbles so damn much

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 01:23 PM (3sSZK)

37 Chuck Schumer says he'll shut down the government before he allows 0.2% to be rescinded from the budget.

DTS should just say 'challenge accepted' and shut it down. Only critical positions and departments are funded at his discretion and those don't include congress.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 01:23 PM (3Ope8)

38 Well, most real men will eat beaver if she asks.

Going back to a Whatever Podcast, I think the common complaint that men won't is from women with a lot of one night stands.

Chad and Tyrone ain't got no time for that...

Posted by: Obligatory at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (t0Rmr)

39 Chuck Schumer says he'll shut down the government before he allows 0.2% to be rescinded from the budget.

Shut up and do it. And federal workers don't get paid until it reopens.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 01:18 PM (M0V4/)

If it re-opens. An no back pay for the time off either. It's an unpaid furlough.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (S/Y4j)

40 I'll rsise you another $5 Trillion.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (bvNHo)

41 And another day of Epstein information suppression.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (KtOUo)

42 Kabuki, wrastling, acting, prostitution, never. changes.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (jgmnb)

43 Studies have shown a direct correlation between the volume of leftist screeching over any Trump agenda win, and the degree of goring imposed by that win upon their ox.

Posted by: TarzanTurk at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (/c9Dk)

44 *doing my bit to keep thread Prometheus-free*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (XZ5S6)

45 Trump brings a dose of reality to the situation.

https://is.gd/JL8DHr

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (L/fGl)

46
Shut down the gubmint and maybe Elon and Donald can kiss and make up.

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (TUCTx)

47 The Blade also liked the BBB. He doesn't like Prometheus. But he eats shit like coyote, bobcat, guinea pig, python, and beaver.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (iFTx/)

Well, most real men will eat beaver if she asks.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:22 PM (ExV1e)
______

"The Paolo, he ... how you say ... knows his way around the beaver"

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (iFTx/)

48 Raise your hand if this is a surprise…

Yeah I’m counting zero hands in the air.

Same old bullshit. Spending will never be cut. Get used to this idea.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:25 PM (ImXfC)

49 Chad and Tyrone ain't got no time for that...
Posted by: Obligatory at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (t0Rmr)

Chad and Tyrone don't need to keep their women happy because they've got a dozen more lined up to be used like a sock.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:25 PM (ExV1e)

50
It is beyond me why anybody thinks Alaska and Maine are conservative states. Both are 3rd world cesspools with great scenery. Their economies are based on corruption, welfare, more corruption, and meth cooking.
Posted by: Going deep. Out. at July 11, 2025 01:21 PM (9X60i)

Can't speak to Maine, but AK gets the conservative label because they have oil and guns. The oil funds the whole state, and the guns are necessary because there are ginormous bears that actually hunt men in the bush country.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 01:26 PM (y9nCu)

51 Boy, the "conservative" state of Alaska is turning out to be a lot more socialist and subsidy-dependent than I would have guessed.
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Alaska, much like Hawaii, is an Indian Reservation run for the benefit of DoD and Big Oil. It just is. Neither should have become a state.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:26 PM (W3T6M)

52 DTS should just say 'challenge accepted' and shut it down. Only critical positions and departments are funded at his discretion and those don't include congress.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 01:23 PM (3Ope

The President cannot withhold pay from either the legislature or the judiciary. Not the members. Not their staff.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:26 PM (ExV1e)

53 I think this is topic for this thread: https://tinyurl.com/4hcaxbkv

Posted by: Alan Thicke at July 11, 2025 01:27 PM (t0Rmr)

54 Office supplies, buildings?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:27 PM (bvNHo)

55 52 DTS should just say 'challenge accepted' and shut it down. Only critical positions and departments are funded at his discretion and those don't include congress.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 01:23 PM (3Ope

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With a budget passed and signed, shutdown theater is over until at least the start of fiscal year 26/27.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:27 PM (GBKbO)

56 The funny thing, Prometheus succeeds on a number of levels. It looks great, good performances from the actors, good effects and sound design, an interesting premise, but....

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 11, 2025 01:27 PM (JBDl5)

57 I know TJM has been praising it, but he also won't shut the f*** up about Prometheus, so... shrug.
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Is this proof that Ace reads the comments?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 01:27 PM (7fElN)

58 Allowing Hawaii and Alaska to become states was really retarded.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:27 PM (ImXfC)

59 This is why Musk's new political party is going to fail so spectacularly. He thinks there's a large group of people out there who wanted their taxes to be raised but border protection lessened, all so they could say "we cut the deficit!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 01:27 PM (uWKK8)

60
Drug and human trafficking wrapped into one big fatty with the child slave plantation scam.

REAL democrats are back, baby!

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 01:28 PM (TUCTx)

61 Money well spent.
Whenever I go to Rwanda, I always ride the electric bus.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:28 PM (v0R5T)

62 Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

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Oh no! No metric football. Whatever shall we do?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 01:28 PM (L/fGl)

63 Money well spent.
Whenever I go to Rwanda, I always ride the electric bus.
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:28 PM (v0R5T)
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Do you sit in the machete or non-machete section?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (XZ5S6)

64 62 Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

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Oh no! No metric football. Whatever shall we do?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 01:28 PM (L/fGl)

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Remember, FIFA being one of the most nakedly corrupt organizations on earth is not a problem, but America deporting illegal aliens is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)

65 >>Can't speak to Maine, but AK gets the conservative label because they have oil and guns. The oil funds the whole state, and the guns are necessary because there are ginormous bears that actually hunt men in the bush country.

Maine has wood. The tree kind. Miles, and miles and miles of it. You do not want to be in the way of a logging truck. And lots of guns. And bears.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (viF8m)

66 The funny thing, Prometheus succeeds on a number of levels. It looks great, good performances from the actors, good effects and sound design, an interesting premise, but....

The script sucks. That's the problem with the movie.

Put the same actors in the original Aliens and its a good movie.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (t0Rmr)

67 *Buc-ees had entered the chat*

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (ufFY8)

68 Fun fact. Maine Nad Alaska also have statewide ranked choice voting. The only 2 states.

There is RCV elsewhere like NYC primaries for example. But ME/AK have it for everything, across the entire state. And not just primaries but general elections.

This is why the left wants RCV. Because it produces “Republicans” like this.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (ImXfC)

69 Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup

LOL

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (YwEeS)

70 Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

So... the US team goes undefeated?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:30 PM (ExV1e)

71 65 Sounds like a great place for New Yorkers to retire to.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:30 PM (bvNHo)

72 Good news is that the bill cuts the worst parts of NASA: Mars Sample Return, "Orion", SLS. Those are the parts with the least accountability and the most overruns.
Unfortunately unaccountability and overruns are the point for Congressional donors: tinyurl.com/2tyej4e9
Probably were the point for Elon Musk also (in addition to the electric car subsidies).

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 01:30 PM (K7yuL)

73 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:26 PM (ExV1e)

Seriously....show me.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (3Ope8)

74 Boy, the "conservative" state of Alaska is turning out to be a lot more socialist and subsidy-dependent than I would have guessed.

The rest of the country pays for California, Alaska, Hawaii, and the Northeast. Pure and simple.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (aubiJ)

75 I keep saying it, but there were 31 rescission sections in the OBBB, including one that ended all unspent funds from Biden's Inflation Reduction Act.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

76 >>Sounds like a great place for New Yorkers to retire to.

Many do. The Maine coast has some very wealthy enclaves.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (viF8m)

77 Who doesn't want to see Charlize Theron squashed like a June Bug?

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (v0R5T)

78 Is a FIFA cup better than my Yeti Rambler?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (bvNHo)

79
Going back to a Whatever Podcast, I think the common complaint that men won't is from women with a lot of one night stands.

Chad and Tyrone ain't got no time for that...
Posted by: Obligatory

That you serve as a watering hole for the fauna of the veldt contributes not a smidgen to their hesitancy, I'm sure.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (Tv15w)

80 Friends, a member of my team just had her first sonogram and they could not find a heartbeat. The baby measured 6 weeks instead of 8. They are having her come back in 2 weeks to see if there is any growth or heartbeat, unless her body naturally gives her the answer. Please pray for her.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 01:32 PM (pZEOD)

81 Do you sit in the machete or non-machete section?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea
......

I sit with the chickens.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:32 PM (v0R5T)

82 Who doesn't want to see Charlize Theron squashed like a June Bug?
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (v0R5T)
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Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 01:32 PM (XZ5S6)

83 Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

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Oh no! No metric football. Whatever shall we do?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 01:28 PM (L/fGl)

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Remember, FIFA being one of the most nakedly corrupt organizations on earth is not a problem, but America deporting illegal aliens is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe we'll be lucky and they'll boycott the 2028 Lost Slangelous Slummer Olymdics too?

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:33 PM (iFTx/)

84 WA State has ranked choice voting

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 11, 2025 01:33 PM (AcTAo)

85
Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.[-i]

Your proposal is acceptable.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 01:33 PM (Tv15w)

86 we can't cut just six billion

Because 90% of it will be spent in DC.

Losing USAID was bad enough for the DC economy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 01:33 PM (xTIDn)

87 Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup

So, the rest of the world does not want to come to America?
Trump has so much dumb luck that it's amazing.

Posted by: old chick at July 11, 2025 01:34 PM (F3Dlr)

88 A rescission package to trim a mere 0.2% from the nine trillion dollar budget is being blocked by the usual fake Republican saboteurs, and a couple of their new allies, writes Matt Vespa at Townhall.

Now you see why I want all the Epstein shit released. I don't care if it burns this government to the ground.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 01:34 PM (8v2yu)

89 Julie Kelly@julie_kelly2

Sources confirm to me the blow up between Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi is very real. This has been brewing for four months and came to a head at the White House on Wednesday.

He has not been in the office since.

Most of the frustration at FBI relates to her handling of Epstein disclosures and disputes between FBI and Bondi about how to proceed.

Bongino appears ready to resign imminently if Bondi remains in office.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 01:34 PM (TGPs7)

90 Who doesn't want to see Charlize Theron squashed like a June Bug?

The guy that plays the robot in that movie acts his heart out.

It should be a crime to use good actors so poorly...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:34 PM (t0Rmr)

91 Boy, the "conservative" state of Alaska is turning out to be a lot more socialist and subsidy-dependent than I would have guessed.
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Alaska, much like Hawaii, is an Indian Reservation run for the benefit of DoD and Big Oil. It just is. Neither should have become a state.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:26 PM (W3T6M)

Pretty much. Outside of state and federal government employment, private-sector Alaskans dependent on "seasonal" work need Uncle Sam's glad hand to help them through the winter.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 01:34 PM (rj6Yv)

92 Who doesn't want to see Charlize Theron squashed like a June Bug?
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (v0R5T)
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Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 01:32 PM
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She gets flattened by the Alien ship in Prometheus.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (JBDl5)

93 This shit pissed me off so much. I’ve never received a dime of government money. Never on Medicaid , never on welfare. I’ve never worked for the government. No Pell grants. I’ve never received a dime of government check money. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. But Ive sent them hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over the years.

Nobody ever gives a fuck about someone like me. But if you’re a 7th generation moocher, never having worked a day in your life, everyone trips over themselves to kiss your ass.

Fuck that noise.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (ImXfC)

94 The guy that plays the robot in that movie acts his heart out.
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Michael Fassbender. Excellent actor.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (XZ5S6)

95 *squints at Krebs*

Posted by: the barrel at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (K7yuL)

96 That you serve as a watering hole for the fauna of the veldt contributes not a smidgen to their hesitancy, I'm sure.
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This is pure poetry.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (W3T6M)

97 Seriously....show me.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (3Ope

Think about it for a minute.

If a President could refuse to pay Congress or the courts, he could control them absolutely. At that point it's a dictatorship.

Congress has a spending bill for Congress. I don't know if it even goes to the President. I assume there's a separate spending bill for the Courts.

I don't know where, specifically, it states that he cannot withhold their money but you're a smart guy. I'm sure you can find it if you care.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (ExV1e)

98 I keep saying it, but there were 31 rescission sections in the OBBB, including one that ended all unspent funds from Biden's Inflation Reduction Act.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:31 PM (GBKbO)
____

"Just like our flavors of ice cream!"

-- Baskin-Robbins

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (iFTx/)

99 Nobody ever gives a fuck about someone like me. But if you’re a 7th generation moocher, never having worked a day in your life, everyone trips over themselves to kiss your ass.

In the example of two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner you sir are the sheep.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (t0Rmr)

100 She gets flattened by the Alien ship in Prometheus.
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (JBDl5)
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Ah. I was so busy keeping the thread Prometheus-free that I hadn't realized she was in it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (XZ5S6)

101 I care about the world cup just as much as I care about the olympics.
I don't.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (PMtkd)

102 Prometheus is a great film with lots of deep thoughts in a bong and black light poster manner.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (NXz8h)

103 So if the World Cup here is a no go I don't have to watch illegals waving the flags of their home countries? Good to go

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (JtH6i)

104 Theron is a fucking nut case. Her poor children are abused. It's sick.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (PMtkd)

105 Michael Fassbender. Excellent actor.

Also compare his magneto with Ian McKellan.

But Fassbender did get better scripts...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:37 PM (t0Rmr)

106
Democrats -- Proud Proponents of Slavery Since 1828!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 01:37 PM (Tv15w)

107 Dragging this up from the ONT for the daywalkers who might wish to help.

Hey guys. We've hit a rough patch with Dad's passing. His retirement benefits never removed our Mom as the beneficiary. So we will not be getting Ciampino's monthly pension like he had planned for us to help live off of. I am disabled and homebound, so we now only have my sister's meager check from her retail job.

We are highly stressed now because of bills and trying to take care of the cats. We cannot even afford to pay for his cremation right now. He has been cremated, we just can't bring him home until payment. His cremation was $3500

We also need emergency funding for our cat Purrcy. He is bleeding from his mouth. The vet consult will be $50 and if he needs a dental, it will be around $400.

If any feel they can help us out with Purrcy, here is our cat fund. https://t.co/iS8XTjbmSR

If you can help with Ciampino's cremation https://gofund.me/0b6581bd

Thanks
Posted by: Joyenz at July 10, 2025 10:28 PM (sPQoU)

Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2025 01:37 PM (/y8xj)

108 "[PBS is] biased, its CEO is aloof (and biased), and PBS has been overtly projecting Democrat propaganda for years."

The reason to defund PBS and NPR is VERY simple: there is NO NEED for state-sponsored media of any kind! We are inundated by content from an infinite number of non-state media sources. There is NO vacuum to fill; NO shortage of supply.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:37 PM (TwZXH)

109 Is Prometheus 2012 a good movie?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:37 PM (bvNHo)

110 84 WA State has ranked choice voting
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 11, 2025 01:33 PM (AcTAo)

Not statewide right? Some cities do.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (ImXfC)

111 My opinion on the "Big Beautiful Bill" is that it's very superficial in value. I don't necessarily appreciate the substantive contents in full. But, the very fact that it was conceived, produced and initiated in a limited period of time suggests something that is, also, important. Competence. We've had four years of incompetence, and the diametric comparison gives us something long overdue....and one of the most underrated of economic measurements..."Consumer Confidence."

When Consumer confidence is raised, all positive aspects of the economy follow in the wake.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (dIske)

112 Because 90% of it will be spent in DC.

One thing we learned from the USAID shutdown is that with incredibly rare exceptions, everyone who has been prominent in DC for a long time is dirty - they all have a spouse, a child, or a sibling on the government or government-funded "nonprofit" teat.

All of them - elected officials, judges, senior bureaucrats, etc.

All of them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (xTIDn)

113 Massie - Cortez will be the newest version of Matalin - Carville.

Posted by: Oglebay at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (2ap+5)

114 104 Theron is a fucking nut case. Her poor children are abused. It's sick.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (PMtkd)

How fucking nuts is she? She laments that she can't attract male attention in her life. That nuts.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (y+qgR)

115 shit pebbles in diarea soup
so good

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (3sSZK)

116 2026 US cities hosting the World Cup:

Eleven U.S. cities received the honor: Atlanta, Boston, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Miami, New York/New Jersey, Philadelphia, San Francisco and Seattle.

Well ... bye

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (rj6Yv)

117 It wasn't an Alien ship that crushed me flat it was a bulldozer! You bastards - Saint Rachel of Pancake

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (JtH6i)

118 Mothers choose PBS they think it is the best for kids to watch

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 01:38 PM (3sSZK)

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Mothers can be stupid.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 01:39 PM (PMtkd)

119 Geography gambit.

Don’t Boo…Revolt!@BreeNewsome
“Africa” is a continent that is 12 million miles long, is the origin of human life, is one of the most culturally, ethnically & genetically diverse places on earth & has a history that predates Euro colonialism by thousands of years
We need perspective when speaking of “Africa”

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In fact, it goes all the way to the moon!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 01:39 PM (L/fGl)

120 This shit pissed me off so much. I’ve never received a dime of government money. Never on Medicaid , never on welfare. I’ve never worked for the government. No Pell grants. I’ve never received a dime of government check money. Nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch. But Ive sent them hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes over the years.

Nobody ever gives a fuck about someone like me. But if you’re a 7th generation moocher, never having worked a day in your life, everyone trips over themselves to kiss your ass.

Fuck that noise.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

Fist bump. Even when I needed help I didn't qualify because white, male & employed.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 01:39 PM (8v2yu)

121 Somebody said this AM that the OBBB shuts off EV purchase susbsidies soon, this year. If that's true, that's very good!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:39 PM (TwZXH)

122 Theron had plenty of male attention before she crossed over the hot/crazy line.
The moral of the story is, don't be crazy.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (K7yuL)

123 Boy, the "conservative" state of Alaska is turning out to be a lot more socialist and subsidy-dependent than I would have guessed.

*tee hee*

Posted by: Ranked Choice Voting at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (ULPxl)

124 >>How fucking nuts is she? She laments that she can't attract male attention in her life. That nuts.

She attracts my attention but I will deny her my essence.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (viF8m)

125 Julie Kelly reports the blowup between Bondi and Bongino on Wednesday is real. Bongino is angry about the Epstein disclosures. Kelly believes Bongino is ready to resign if Bondi stays at her current position.

http://tiny.cc/fv5p001

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (lIio7)

126 >>The Maine coast has some very wealthy enclaves.

York Harbor is the Hive for WASPs.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (Bi+MU)

127
How fucking nuts is she? She laments that she can't attract male attention in her life. That nuts.

In Atomic Blonde she tried to bring more life to her dying career by playing a female James Bond that beds a French female spy...the old "I'm stunning and brave by kissing another girl" ploy. But...being a nutty McNutter she French spy was played by a tranny.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (t0Rmr)

128
*squints at Krebs*
Posted by: the barrel

My negligent ways with formatting tags ended with my signature.

Tough noogies.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (Tv15w)

129 Bert and Ernie are gay groomers.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (NXz8h)

130 Deciding on what to spend money on is not “funding the govt”! Taxpayers paying taxes is what “funds the govt”. Not these asshole politicians.

It’s like words don’t even mean anything.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (4mQ32)

131 The reason to defund PBS and NPR is VERY simple: there is NO NEED for state-sponsored media of any kind!

What about the rural areas, where they can only get the NPR station?

Who will do the crop reports?

And we let William F. Buckley have a show twenty-five years ago!

Posted by: NPR and PBS! at July 11, 2025 01:41 PM (xTIDn)

132 Democrats -- Proud Proponents of Slavery Since 1828!

Slavery. Share Cropping. Indentured Servitude. Immigrant Visa Workers. Company Towns and Stores.

Plenty of Owners, in all times of all political persuasions, that don't care for the free exchange of currency and labor.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 01:41 PM (aubiJ)

133 Sources confirm to me the blow up between Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi is very real

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sources = Bongino himself?

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 01:41 PM (g47mK)

134 World Cup ain’t going anywhere.

First off it’s us, Canada and Mexico hosting not just US. They’re not going to fuck over Canada and Mexico. And neither of those two have enough stadiums available to make up.

Second it’s in 11 months. You do t just wave a magic wand and redo this. It takes years of planning.

But I do hope the fans boycott it. It’ll mean much cheaper tickets for games. So please world, by al means boycott. I’d rather pay $300 a ticket than $1000. Go ahead and “punish” me. 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:41 PM (ImXfC)

135 he never seemed too stable

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (g47mK)

136 >>York Harbor is the Hive for WASPs.

I went to school with an heir to the IBM fortune. Kids dad died and left him an island off the coast of Maine. An entire frigging island.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (viF8m)

137 Mothers choose PBS they think it is the best for kids to watch
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Evidence women should have never been given the vote.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (W3T6M)

138 22 Prometheus brought the fire iirc.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:20 PM (bvNHo)

Prometheus brought fire to the people, big, beautiful fire so they could warm their homes and cook their meat and forge tools. They worked so hard to get their meat and their homes. And their tools But left-wing Zeus, powerful god, left-wing god, he didn't want people to heat their own homes and cook their own meat or make their own tools. He wanted them dependent on the gods of Olympus for everything. Terrible person, just terrible. And he punished Prometheus in a terrible way, sending a bird to eat his liver every day, causing him terrible pain, so sad. Very very sad.

Posted by: PDT gets his Greek myth on at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)

139 127
How fucking nuts is she? She laments that she can't attract male attention in her life. That nuts.

In Atomic Blonde she tried to bring more life to her dying career by playing a female James Bond that beds a French female spy...the old "I'm stunning and brave by kissing another girl" ploy. But...being a nutty McNutter she French spy was played by a tranny.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:40 PM (t0Rmr)

I really enjoy that movie. It's grown on me, like antibiotic-resistant gonorrhea.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (y+qgR)

140 >>World Cup ain’t going anywhere.

Nobody cares. Soccer is gay.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (Bi+MU)

141 > I care about the world cup just as much as I care about the Olympics. I don't.

I don't care about the backstories. I don't care about the gay events like ribbon twirling. I wish I could just stream high quality video of the events I care about, like Judo.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (lIio7)

142 People at my work are nervous cuz the BBB cuts funding for 'studying' 'climate change' and for DEI from NOAA and NSF. I think my little sub group is mostly useful; we study weather and space weather. But the overall group had a big climate division and did push the DEI crap until late last year when they read the writing on the wall. And their first move was just to rename the DEI office. That didn't fly and they were forced to actually cut those employees.

I'm in the happy position of being old enough to draw from my retirement account if my job goes away, and I will feel like the bigger group brought the pain on themselves with the climate change and DEI BS if they/we get shut down.

But until the BBB passed our top management were thinking that congress might continue funding the agencies that fund us at their former levels, ignoring Trump's requested cuts and that did not happen, so there is that bit of good in the bill.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (bP/i4)

143 The Bush Crime syndicate Summers in Maine.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (ImXfC)

144 138 Prometheus brought fire to the people, big, beautiful fire so they could warm their homes and cook their meat and forge tools. They worked so hard to get their meat and their homes. And their tools But left-wing Zeus, powerful god, left-wing god, he didn't want people to heat their own homes and cook their own meat or make their own tools. He wanted them dependent on the gods of Olympus for everything. Terrible person, just terrible. And he punished Prometheus in a terrible way, sending a bird to eat his liver every day, causing him terrible pain, so sad. Very very sad.
Posted by: PDT gets his Greek myth on at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)

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I want this to be a regular thing now.

I need this to be a regular thing now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

145 Why the hell are you complaining about Murkowski and the others? Gosh don't you realize that it's just not "realistic" to cut the budget? I thought that the demand that the budget be cut just a Massie / Paul "vanity" position?

I thought we just had to be patient THIS TIME and pass the OBBB and then we'd get our cuts with rescission and appropriations bills?

"Simon says okay NOW it's okay to turn our ire away from the spending hawks and focus on the RINO's who keep bankrupting us?"

Posted by: Guvnah at July 11, 2025 01:43 PM (ycAHw)

146 145 Why the hell are you complaining about Murkowski and the others? Gosh don't you realize that it's just not "realistic" to cut the budget? I thought that the demand that the budget be cut just a Massie / Paul "vanity" position?

I thought we just had to be patient THIS TIME and pass the OBBB and then we'd get our cuts with rescission and appropriations bills?

"Simon says okay NOW it's okay to turn our ire away from the spending hawks and focus on the RINO's who keep bankrupting us?"

Posted by: Guvnah at July 11, 2025 01:43 PM (ycAHw)

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Massie voted to raise the debt ceiling under Biden because of his principles.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:43 PM (GBKbO)

147
Is Prometheus 2012 a good movie?
Posted by: Boss Moss

No. It is repellant in every aspect of its being.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (Tv15w)

148 I don't like when disputes in the administration get "leaked". Frankly I would fire him for that.

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (YwEeS)

149 Have we figured out who TJM is yet?

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (jYRYu)

150 Of course soccer is ghey. The pitch is measured in millimeters.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (bvNHo)

151 "Mothers choose PBS they think it is the best for kids to watch"

TV is a terrible babysitter.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (TwZXH)

152 >>I went to school with an heir to the IBM fortune. Kids dad died and left him an island off the coast of Maine. An entire frigging island.

Buddy of mine from college has the house closest to the Atlantic Wall in ALL of the US.

It is the single most amazing home and piece of real estate I have ever seen. The views from even the toilet in the Guest Bath are unbelievable.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (Bi+MU)

153 I want this to be a regular thing now. /i]

Donald Trump raped me in the form of a swan!!!

Posted by: E. Jean Carroll at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (t0Rmr)

154 Ok never mind

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (jYRYu)

155 Have we figured out who TJM is yet?
Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (jYRYu)

you can click on his nic and find out !

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (g47mK)

156 143 The Bush Crime syndicate Summers in Maine.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (ImXfC)

I dislike using summer as a verb. It sounds so snotty. Sorry.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (CueAq)

157 "Is Prometheus 2012 a good movie?"

Gotta be better than Alien 3.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (TwZXH)

158 Screw soccer. Real sportsball fans are looking forward to the game of the century... the COLORADO ROCKIES against the CINCINNATI REDS.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (K7yuL)

159
Most of the frustration at FBI relates to her handling of Epstein disclosures and disputes between FBI and Bondi about how to proceed.

Posted by: Mister Ghost

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That could mean x or -x.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (UmB+t)

160 What about the rural areas, where they can only get the NPR station?

Who will do the crop reports?

And we let William F. Buckley have a show twenty-five years ago!
Posted by: NPR and PBS!

RFD TV.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (8v2yu)

161 Mothers can be stupid.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 01:39 PM (PMtkd)

And evil and violent and destructive. The myth of inherent female goodness and the nurturing maternal instinct needs to be ended. People of both sexes can be quite shitty to their kids. And if you look at the outcomes of single mother households, they aren't up to the task on their own anyway.

Posted by: Speaking of liver-destroying myths at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (TbWk/)

162 everyone who has been prominent in DC for a long time is dirty

It would be fun to actually enforce the Foreign Agent Registration Act.

Give people in DC ninety days to register on behalf of their foreign paymasters before starting to enforce it.

The screaming would be epic.

Posted by: NPR and PBS! at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (xTIDn)

163 >>The Bush Crime syndicate Summers in Maine.

Aforementioned Friends' Grandfather used to love having the Bush's bumped off their Tee Time so that his Grandson and I could be the first on the links.

Always hysterical to see 2-3 generations of Bush Family standing around and waiting for us to Tee Off.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (Bi+MU)

164 149 Have we figured out who TJM is yet?
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My money is on Succubus.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (W3T6M)

165 133 Sources confirm to me the blow up between Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi is very real

Bongino should go to Trump about Bondi...

Posted by: Kamala at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (VE6XX)

166
I dislike using summer as a verb. It sounds so snotty. Sorry.
Posted by: CaliGirl

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It's a perfect descriptor for the snots who do it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 01:46 PM (UmB+t)

167 Posted by: E. Jean Carroll

I'm still not buying your book, Jean. Your erotica needs more catgirls and maybe should be set in space to be believable.

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 01:46 PM (K7yuL)

168 I went to school with an heir to the IBM fortune. Kids dad died and left him an island off the coast of Maine. An entire frigging island

a family member was good friends with an heir to the SKF fortune. Who also had an island off the coast of Maine.

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 01:46 PM (dCxaZ)

169 ****A rescission package to trim a mere 0.2% from the nine trillion dollar budget is being blocked
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Nancy Pelosi redux, just pass the stinky bill (it's really not that bad just hold your nose) and it'll all be fixed in rescission and you'll be happy, happy, happy, sign here. ☒_______

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 01:46 PM (Ri+6K)

170 I don't remember what year it was, but I tried to watch the video stream of some Olympic Judo events. The camera was literally filming from the top of the stadium. It was a wide shot that included the entire floor and a good deal of the crowd. I couldn't see any detail of the matches going on. I'm still salty about that.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 01:46 PM (lIio7)

171
It is the single most amazing home and piece of real estate I have ever seen. The views from even the toilet in the Guest Bath are unbelievable.
Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (Bi+MU)

Now I want pictures for the cafe taken from the guest bath. Or it didn't happen.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (CueAq)

172 The Bush Crime syndicate Summers in Maine.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (ImXfC)

I dislike using summer as a verb. It sounds so snotty. Sorry.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (CueAq)

That’s why I used it. 😉

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (ImXfC)

173
I don't care about the backstories. I don't care about the gay events like ribbon twirling. I wish I could just stream high quality video of the events I care about, like Judo.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (lIio7)

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I hate those stupid backstories that are supposed to draw us in and make us care. Sure for the weak-minded. Get on with the 400m race.

Remember back in the day ice skating was like politics, you couldn't win unless it was your turn? Russia (the whole Eastern bloc) would be forced to score a certain way? I loved the outrage (my own).

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (PMtkd)

174 157 "Is Prometheus 2012 a good movie?"

Gotta be better than Alien 3.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:45 PM (TwZXH)

My take: they both had the potential to be excellent movies. But neither of them really belong in the Alien universe. And if they had been written and made to be their own things, they's be better for it and well thought of.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (y+qgR)

175 I suspect that this insider drama about the rescission package will fall like the insider drama did regarding the OBBB:

It'll be meaningless because it's just gonna pass in the end.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

176 When ever I hear Bongino I think about the horrid ginger from the Partridge Family.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (bvNHo)

177 Also I don't know if there is any teeth in it but the BBB prohibits congress from just doing CRs so that in future congress cant just go "well we were out of time and had to just do a CR, we didn't 'want' to keep every bit of pork, but we were out of time".

If that really sticks it will be very useful. If the RINOs have to defend keeping useless BS in a new budget when the R's have a slim majority there is a greater chance of this or that BS actually going away.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (bP/i4)

178 Did OBBB make the last tax cuts permanent or merely extend them?

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (jYRYu)

179 I bet this shows up on an ONT:

Pittsburgh Scanner
East Hills. Wilkinsburg Ave. If you’re a PA state constable, a caller found your armor, cuffs, radio, and pants.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (GhIJO)

180
What about the rural areas, where they can only get the NPR station?

Who will do the crop reports?

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Go to the YouTube search bar and type "crop reports." Everything is available on social media now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (UmB+t)

181 So the people that criticized Trump for "sucking up" to Johnson instead of making him more of an enemy, when it was pretty obvious he was going to end up Speaker, are still a lot smarter than dumb lucky stupid idiot neverthinking and takes everything way too personally Trump, right?

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (Qr870)

182 uniparty gonna uniparty.

You will never get Congress to cut spending. You can't get them to balance the budget.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (xcxpd)

183 > I went to school with an heir to the IBM fortune. Kids dad died and left him an island off the coast of Maine. An entire frigging island

An heir to the Dole fortune taught at my High School. Other than always driving the latest year's model of car, you wouldn't really have known.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (lIio7)

184 177 Also I don't know if there is any teeth in it but the BBB prohibits congress from just doing CRs so that in future congress cant just go "well we were out of time and had to just do a CR, we didn't 'want' to keep every bit of pork, but we were out of time".

If that really sticks it will be very useful. If the RINOs have to defend keeping useless BS in a new budget when the R's have a slim majority there is a greater chance of this or that BS actually going away.
Posted by: PaleRider at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (bP/i4)

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CRs were done because Congress didn't do budgets. The budget process is finished for the 25/26 fiscal year, so no continuing resolutions will ben necessary. It could start again at the start of the 26/27 fiscal year, nothing preventing that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

185 178 Did OBBB make the last tax cuts permanent or merely extend them?
Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (jYRYu)

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Permanent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

186 >>What about the rural areas, where they can only get the NPR station?

Who will do the crop reports?

NPR Stations out here are not the stations you get the Crop Reports from.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (Bi+MU)

187 Bondi appears to be the laggard of all Trump's appointments.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 01:50 PM (Ri+6K)

188 American tv is the worst at the backstory crap for sporting events. If you can find British broadcasts they avoid that stuff for the most parts.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:50 PM (ImXfC)

189 I think the most important question still pending is what the whole "festive little hats" thing is all about. Especially since "little hats," "small hats," and "smol hats" are now commonly used on the internet to refer to Jews as the root of all dysfunction here and abroad. I don't necessarily believe that's the intent here but it could be cleared up very easily.

Posted by: My hats are YUGE, classy and terrific, really terrific at July 11, 2025 01:50 PM (TbWk/)

190 An heir to the Dole fortune taught at my High School. Other than always driving the latest year's model of car, you wouldn't really have known.
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Was he/she fruity?

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:50 PM (W3T6M)

191 Always hysterical to see 2-3 generations of Bush Family standing around and waiting for us to Tee Off.

did you antagonize them like the drunk dude who got his ass whooped by the NHL enforcer?

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 01:50 PM (dCxaZ)

192 Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:35 PM (ExV1e)

C'mon, man.... YOU said the preznit can't refuse to pay congress OR their staff. I see that the congress gets paid out of the treasury as ascertained by law. Show me where it says the preznit has to pay them and their staff if there's no budget.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 01:50 PM (3Ope8)

193

I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt but I'm losing patience...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (VE6XX)

194
We got crop and stockyard reports from the local AM.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (Ri+6K)

195 I want this to be a regular thing now. /i]

Donald Trump raped me in the form of a swan!!!
Posted by: E. Jean Carroll at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (t0Rmr)

Great Honk!!

Posted by: Tommy Djilas at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (rj6Yv)

196 Nothing is permanent. Tax rates could be changed tomorrow by another bill.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (ImXfC)

197 "Massie voted to raise the debt ceiling under Biden because of his principles."

He did the wrong thing once, so let's punish him for doing the right thing now?

"The important thing is to establish a political climate of opinion which will make it politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing. Unless it is politically profitable for the wrong people to do the right thing, the right people will not do the right thing either, or it they try, they will shortly be out of office." -- Milton Friedman.

Every jackass (e.g., Ben Shapiro) who dumps on Massie and Paul and Roy and the other spending hawks (thereby making it politically UNprofitable to do the right thing) needs to take a long look in the mirror when they see Murkowski and the RINO's holding out. You're the ones who set the climate that empowers them.

Posted by: Guvnah at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (wefsu)

198 We have girls, pot, and will save you your hard earned money. Come join us in defeating the DC machine.

Posted by: American Party at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (/U5Yz)

199 many, many people want Bondi gone. because she will not assign special prosecutors to go after trump, his friends and family, or be an obstacle to Trump , like Barr

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (g47mK)

200 Posted by: PDT gets his Greek myth on at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (TbWk/)

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I want this to be a regular thing now.

I need this to be a regular thing now.

It's no Zod Faulkner but yeah, it's good stuff. Kudos to (TbWk/).

Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (/y8xj)

201 >>did you antagonize them like the drunk dude who got his ass whooped by the NHL enforcer?

No. But we would show up last second, drive my VW Bus straight to the Tee Box for the first hole and get out like Cheech and Chong.

Posted by: garrett at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (Bi+MU)

202 Donald Trump raped me in the form of a swan!!!
Posted by: E. Jean Carroll at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (t0Rmr)

Great Honk!!
Posted by: Tommy Djilas at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (rj6Yv)

YOU WATCH YOUR PHRASEOLOGY!

Posted by: Mayor Shinn at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (TbWk/)

203 Stop picking on Pam Bondi!

Posted by: Tommy Djilas at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (rj6Yv)

204 >>- $45 billion to more than double ICE detention capacity to roughly 100k beds.

This item bothers me. Why do we need 100k beds when the border is closed and a large majority of Americans want it to stay that way?
I think it can be interpreted two ways:

1. It future proofs the agency. No longer will they have an excuse to ship millions to the interior 5 star hotels. That cuts out a lot of NGOs and grift. So even if Dems open the borders again, they will have to explain why they are not using their new facilities? (Biden and Obama claimed they had no capacity to turn people around in weeks, so they had to cut them loose with court dates 5 years in future.)

2. It is a time bomb for the Dems who expect to open the borders and make 100K border busters "in process" the new normal. Or maybe even for Trump and the big slavers who maybe were promised a resumed flow of cheap labor and this is to facilitate that?

I just don't know. If there is resolve and this problem is behind us, then we don't need to hold anyone since they will be processed so quickly.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (8LN1t)

205 Until someone in government pays for past crimes no one pays

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (+qU29)

206 >>An heir to the Dole fortune taught at my High School. Other than always driving the latest year's model of car, you wouldn't really have known.

This kid went the other way. The majority of his trust kicked in when he turned 25 but he still got a monthly check starting when he was 16. He made some poor life choices.

He lasted one semester but threw some great parties in that short time.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (viF8m)

207 I bet this shows up on an ONT:

Pittsburgh Scanner
East Hills. Wilkinsburg Ave. If you’re a PA state constable, a caller found your armor, cuffs, radio, and pants.
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (GhIJO)

That's The Dino's schtick. I'll notify him!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (5jU2p)

208 Self-impressed liberal Republicans are the majority of the GOPe Senate caucus. Most of them are like Rounds, Murkowski, Sullivan et al.

Changing their mentality is a long term project but there's no time like the present to start the job.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (xjgYc)

209 Chuck Schumer says he'll shut down the government before he allows 0.2% to be rescinded from the budget.

Let him. I triple dog dare him to go to the nat on this.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (FxH7T)

210 182 uniparty gonna uniparty.

You will never get Congress to cut spending. You can't get them to balance the budget.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (xcxpd)

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The only analysis I've seen is from the CBO which treats tax cuts like spending and uses baseline budgeting.

The bill's only increases over previous spending were for border enforcement and some carveouts to Alaska. It was matched with the tax cuts extension (not new ones, so just a hole in projected budgeting, which is bs) and the first welfare reform in 20 years by cutting off illegals and adding a work requirement.

If we're matched with a stronger economy that brings in more tax receipts, I think we may actually see a decrease in the deficit over the next couple of years, and not a small one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

211 I'm confused, I thought the recision package was included in the passed bill, are we saying it was pulled out?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (XV/Pl)

212 Donald Trump raped me in the form of a swan!!!
Posted by: E. Jean Carroll

Now that E. Jean Carroll has been mentioned, how about an hour of Kathy Griffin and E. Jean Carroll.
https://youtu.be/W0AoKDIC7g0

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (NXz8h)

213 149 Have we figured out who TJM is yet?
Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 01:44 PM (jYRYu)

He has a website, you know. Talks about movies there. It's under his real name...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (xcxpd)

214 Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

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Oh no! No metric football. Whatever shall we do?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 01:28 PM (L/fGl)

That would mean the US team wins. They would rather die than see that happen.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (8avO+)

215 Bondi may just be your average mouthy attention whore.

I don't know.

Can she redeem herself after the Epstein debacle?

Why the theater giving honest conservative influencers a binder full of nothing?

I hope at least a few of them told her to fuck off.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (PMtkd)

216 90%of the rescissions will pass with a few things added on and some taken out. Horse trading. Getting rid of the green new deal crap as well as PBS/ NPR are the key as to whether the rescissions will be a success

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (JtH6i)

217 Shapiro hates Massie for Israel reasons not spending reasons.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (ImXfC)

218 What Tommy said!

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (rj6Yv)

219
An heir to the Dole fortune taught at my High School. Other than always driving the latest year's model of car, you wouldn't really have known.
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Was he/she fruity?
Posted by: pudinhead

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He/she pined for an apple on their desk.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (UmB+t)

220 No. But we would show up last second, drive my VW Bus straight to the Tee Box for the first hole and get out like Cheech and Chong.

lol

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (dCxaZ)

221 If we're matched with a stronger economy that brings in more tax receipts, I think we may actually see a decrease in the deficit over the next couple of years, and not a small one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

I want to believe....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (xcxpd)

222 At least he still has his gun.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (bvNHo)

223 East Hills. Wilkinsburg Ave. If you’re a PA state constable, a caller found your armor, cuffs, radio, and pants.
____

If it was found by someone like my mom, the pants would be washed, pressed and folded.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (Dv3i1)

224 197 "Massie voted to raise the debt ceiling under Biden because of his principles."

He did the wrong thing once, so let's punish him for doing the right thing now?

Posted by: Guvnah at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (wefsu)

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No. It means he has no principles and sucks. He's a cheap date for Democrats when they ask him for anything, did nothing to make the OBBB better despite being on the Rules committee, and decided the best way to approach things was to lie about having 10 Republican votes to tank it.

He's a lying piece of shit who votes with Democrats and does nothing to improve legislation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

225 176 When ever I hear Bongino I think about the horrid ginger from the Partridge Family.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (bvNHo)

Carrot Top. Wonder whatever happened to him.

Posted by: Reforger at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (SJnNf)

226 214 Marlene Robertson@marlene4719
Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

Why ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (VE6XX)

227 I'm confused, I thought the recision package was included in the passed bill, are we saying it was pulled out?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (XV/Pl)1

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It was a separate bill that passed The House but Thune sat on in The Senate.

If we can't cut this little trial balloon of spending cuts, the nation is literally doomed.

Posted by: ShainS -- Three Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 01:55 PM (N29CD)

228 the world is not going to boycott FIFA world cup

those yo-yos are crazy about soccer

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 01:55 PM (dCxaZ)

229 221 If we're matched with a stronger economy that brings in more tax receipts, I think we may actually see a decrease in the deficit over the next couple of years, and not a small one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

I want to believe....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:53 PM (xcxpd)

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All I know is that trusting the CBO on anything is a fool's errand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:55 PM (GBKbO)

230 Schumer is reportedly fighting for a provision to make it illegal to melt cheese on a cooked burger. From now on you will have to place the cheese on a raw one before you flip it, or directly on the grill grates.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 01:55 PM (Qr870)

231 Hey America, don’t be surprised when the world boycotts your privilege of hosting the 2026 FIFA World Cup.

Why ?
Posted by: It's me donna

We're the only western country who is doing something about the invasion by illegals. Maybe.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (Dv3i1)

232 We have girls, pot, and will save you your hard earned money. Come join us in defeating the DC machine.
Posted by: American Party

Get yer sh*t together on 2A and we can talk about it.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (/y8xj)

233 "Carrot Top. Wonder whatever happened to him."

Terrible industrial accident. Fell into a 5000L chili cooker at the Hormel plant.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (TwZXH)

234 Trump is not interested in Epstein. Why are you ? Do Epstein scouts think that Trump's hiding something and you want him exposed ?? Is that it ???

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (g47mK)

235 If we're matched with a stronger economy that brings in more tax receipts, I think we may actually see a decrease in the deficit over the next couple of years, and not a small one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (GBKbO)

Except if the economy is booming there will be call to “spend on infrastructure” or some such. The argument is always we have all this tax revenue pouring in let’s spend it. And it’s easier to buy votes with freebies than with reducing the deficit.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (ImXfC)

236 Now that E. Jean Carroll has been mentioned, how about an hour of Kathy Griffin and E. Jean Carroll.
https://youtu.be/W0AoKDIC7g0
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 01:52 PM (NXz8h)
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It would be simpler and less time-consuming if I just drove knitting needles into my ears.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (XZ5S6)

237 Not gonna yank the deadly dull taffy of definitions on "budget" and the appropriations process, and also wasn't my part of the circus when on the Hill, but a CR is just an appropriations bill (and not a Budget Resolution).

Congress has always done a "budget". It's even done some of the historically normal 12 (?) approps bills - that is, marked them up in committee. The CR "process" beginning in 2009 (2008?) has just generally meant little attention mark-ups, or none at all maybe, and then de minimis floor action, all crammed into a deadline-driven short period in the fall.

CRs are normal tools, historically used as very short-term placeholders (usually in December towards holiday break, or in election years October) while final details of appropriations are agreed on. The distinctive/disastrous part of the last decade+ has been using them as substitutes for the entire normal appropriations process, and then limiting debate or action on the floor of both houses.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (1m82a)

238 Could they just spend it all on lottery tickets?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (bvNHo)

239 235 Except if the economy is booming there will be call to “spend on infrastructure” or some such. The argument is always we have all this tax revenue pouring in let’s spend it. And it’s easier to buy votes with freebies than with reducing the deficit.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (ImXfC)

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Well, in that case, we should have passed nothing and just had more CRs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

240 If the 'America' Party favors maintaining the H-1B program, that's a show-stopper.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (TwZXH)

241 When ever I hear Bongino I think about the horrid ginger from the Partridge Family.
Posted by: Boss Moss

Carrot Top. Wonder whatever happened to him.
Posted by: Reforger

Danny Bonaduce.
Carrot Top is five head Kathy Griffin.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (8v2yu)

242 Ace crushed TJM like a relentlessly rolling giant-space-donut (GSD) pursuing its prey.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (cduTK)

243 >>If we're matched with a stronger economy that brings in more tax receipts, I think we may actually see a decrease in the deficit over the next couple of years, and not a small one.

According to Bessent, the US has already taken in over $100 billion in tarrif revenue this year and the full year is projected at $300 billion.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (viF8m)

244 242 Ace crushed TJM like a relentlessly rolling giant-space-donut (GSD) pursuing its prey.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (cduTK)

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I have covered this already.

Comment #4.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

245 @215

>>Why the theater giving honest conservative influencers a binder full of nothing?

More than likely, the people who really run sh*t slipped her the envelope containing pictures of JFK's brain splattered head on a gurney, and an arched eyebrow, and she got the hint.

Or alternatively, they fed her the same tired sources and methods, operatives and assets will die if the truth came out.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (XV/Pl)

246 He's a lying piece of shit who votes with Democrats and does nothing to improve legislation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

Sounds like a great guy.
- Mittens McCain

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (ImXfC)

247 Ace crushed TJM like a relentlessly rolling giant-space-donut (GSD) pursuing its prey.
Posted by: banana Dream
......

He should have veered right.

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (UjdFS)

248 He's a lying piece of shit who votes with Democrats and does nothing to improve legislation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

He's a politician from Kentucky, right?

Posted by: Tommy Djilas at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (rj6Yv)

249 232 We have girls, pot, and will save you your hard earned money. Come join us in defeating the DC machine.
Posted by: American Party

Get yer sh*t together on 2A and we can talk about it.
Posted by: Oddbob

We are currently ~~bribing~~ working with the NRA to push through more gun freedom.

Posted by: American Party at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (/U5Yz)

250 CRs were done because Congress didn't do budgets. The budget process is finished for the 25/26 fiscal year, so no continuing resolutions will ben necessary. It could start again at the start of the 26/27 fiscal year, nothing preventing that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

I don't think Shumer has all that much clout in this even now. The Dems are in disarray and the old line seems weak. The midterms should see more Trump guys (even Musk's forces, if he wins will be defacto Trump guys), and more depraved Lunatic Dems relative to the sensible criminal types.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (8avO+)

251 234 Trump is not interested in Epstein. Why are you ? Do Epstein scouts think that Trump's hiding something and you want him exposed ?? Is that it ???
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My guess is Bill Clinton dies and then the Epstein stuff gets released.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:59 PM (W3T6M)

252 Well, in that case, we should have passed nothing and just had more CRs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

The money will be spent regardless.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 01:59 PM (ImXfC)

253 248 He's a lying piece of shit who votes with Democrats and does nothing to improve legislation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:54 PM (GBKbO)

He's a politician from Kentucky, right?
Posted by: Tommy Djilas at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (rj6Yv)

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I don't mind Paul, but dude has serious blinders.

He could have gotten those Alaska carveouts removed from the Senate version if he had asked and pledged his vote in place of Murkowski's.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:59 PM (GBKbO)

254
NPR Stations out here are not the stations you get the Crop Reports from.
Posted by: garrett

It's where you get LGBTQ Reports and Florence Price music.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 01:59 PM (63Dwl)

255 I dislike using summer as a verb. It sounds so snotty. Sorry.
Posted by: CaliGirl

What are your thoughts on "winter," can we use that? It seems OK to me so summer has to be OK too for symmetry.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 01:59 PM (8LN1t)

256 > Carrot Top. Wonder whatever happened to him.

He's got a residency show at the Luxor in Vegas. He still tours too.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 01:59 PM (lIio7)

257 Carrot Top. Wonder whatever happened to him.
Posted by: Reforger

He is working at the Luxor in Las Vegas. Remarkably not as a parking valet.
https://is.gd/wobEeI

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 02:00 PM (NXz8h)

258 >>My guess is Bill Clinton dies and then the Epstein stuff gets released.

Why would Trump protect Bubba? His wife tried to have him thrown out of office.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 02:00 PM (viF8m)

259 Permanent.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (GBKbO)

Another reason why that bill is awesome.

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 02:00 PM (jYRYu)

260 I've said it before, but if Massie had horse traded his vote with, "Cut this program for $100 billion," or something, I'd respect him more.

If he had gotten 10 Republicans together to vote as a block on cutting a bunch of specific spending, I'd respect him a lot more.

Even with the vote for raising the debt ceiling under Biden.

But Massie did literally nothing but complain and vote against the first welfare reform in 20 years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

261 My guess is Bill Clinton dies and then the Epstein stuff gets released.
Posted by: pudinhead

It'll never get released. It would topple governments and CEOs.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 02:01 PM (8v2yu)

262 261 My guess is Bill Clinton dies and then the Epstein stuff gets released.
Posted by: pudinhead

It'll never get released. It would topple governments and CEOs.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 02:01 PM (8v2yu)

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Eh.

The Panama Papers got released and toppled almost no one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

263 >>> If the 'America' Party favors maintaining the H-1B program, that's a show-stopper.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 01:57 PM (TwZXH)

Also part of the part platform:

Identifying young rightish influence-thots to join the campaign head's growing harem.

Prodigious amounts of happy rave drugs.

Helping others level up in rpgs.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (cduTK)

264 255 I dislike using summer as a verb. It sounds so snotty. Sorry.
Posted by: CaliGirl

What are your thoughts on "winter," can we use that? It seems OK to me so summer has to be OK too for symmetry.
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Summering and Wintering seem to work but Falling and Springing not so much.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (W3T6M)

265 Alaska is as bad a welfare crack ho of a state as PA or many others, possibly worse. "Conservative" got nuthin' to do with it. And not just talking about the "native" situation, which is pretty bad. Small states are vulnerable to death-grips by small cabals. Palin was actually an insurrectionary figure in that landscape when she first emerged.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (1m82a)

266 197 "Massie voted to raise the debt ceiling under Biden because of his principles."

He did the wrong thing once, so let's punish him for doing the right thing now?

Posted by: Guvnah at July 11, 2025 01:51 PM (wefsu)

When your big selling point is purity, its a big deal when you get gang banged.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (8avO+)

267 tippled > toppled > crippled

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (TwZXH)

268 All I know is that trusting the CBO on anything is a fool's errand.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Trust? No one "trusts" them. They are a tool for propaganda purposes for the deep state and Keynesian bitter enders.

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (8LN1t)

269 I'm wintering in my backyard and summering in the air conditioning.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:03 PM (PMtkd)

270 @258

>>Why would Trump protect Bubba? His wife tried to have him thrown out of office.

He's most definitely not protecting Bubba, but he is protecting the machine that runs the world.

Again, this Epstein situation is not going to go away and is only going to get worse the more they tell people to STFU and move one.

Everyone squawking about just get over it, should try that trick on their wife or husband and see how that goes.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 02:03 PM (XV/Pl)

271 Thomas Massie and Rand Paul are not the same by any stretch of the imagination. Rand Paul has always been a spending hawk, and has never been on the Democrats' side in these fights. Massie, on the other hand, voted to increase the debt ceiling under Biden, and now preens about his conservative bonafides. He's just another neverTrumper.

Posted by: Caiwyn at July 11, 2025 02:03 PM (OJfxv)

272 268 All I know is that trusting the CBO on anything is a fool's errand.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

Trust? No one "trusts" them. They are a tool for propaganda purposes for the deep state and Keynesian bitter enders.
Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (8LN1t)

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But every assertion that the OBBB raises spending is based on the CBO's analysis if people realize it or not.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:03 PM (GBKbO)

273 >>> Summering and Wintering seem to work but Falling and Springing not so much.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 02:02 PM (W3T6M)

Winterizing

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 02:03 PM (cduTK)

274 Bottom line is that the bennies in the BBB will make it easier for the Republicans to keep their majorities in the House and Senate.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:03 PM (rj6Yv)

275 Rumors are that Disney is working on a sequel to Prometheus starring Rachel Zegler.

Snow White 2

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 11, 2025 02:03 PM (MDua2)

276 Trump is not interested in Epstein. Why are you ? Do Epstein scouts think that Trump's hiding something and you want him exposed ?? Is that it ???
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (g47mK)

Because thousands of underage victims of trafficking have zero justice and will suffer until their dying breath for it, and the people who victimized them will continue to do so to others without penalty?

Is this difficult for you to fathom? I don't give a fuck about Trump either way, I care about all these rapist assholes walking around free and likely making the rules for the rest of us.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:04 PM (Qr870)

277 I winter and summer in the same place. AC to Heat.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:04 PM (bvNHo)

278 not to justify what the gop did, but imagine this year if the dems had congress and kamala was in the white house

Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 11, 2025 02:04 PM (CWTWj)

279 278 The budget hawks would be out?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:05 PM (bvNHo)

280 Speaking of movies, I saw the new Jurassic World with the grandkids the other day. SPOILER ALERT! It's a massively stupid movie. Two examples.
They are to be picked up by helicopter from a certain spot but the chopper will wait only two minutes. So how do they arrange that? The chopper will come at night so they can't see shit! Who came up with that plan?
They go to the island by boat and bad spinosaurs and mosasaurs sink two real boats and eat people. When they finally escape the island, the row into the dino infected sea on an inflatable raft. But it's OK. I guess either inflatable rafts are immune to dinosaurs or else they just weren't hungry.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:05 PM (L/fGl)

281 265 Alaska is as bad a welfare crack ho of a state as PA or many others, possibly worse. "Conservative" got nuthin' to do with it. And not just talking about the "native" situation, which is pretty bad. Small states are vulnerable to death-grips by small cabals. Palin was actually an insurrectionary figure in that landscape when she first emerged.
Posted by: rhomboid
Yup.
Any attempt to tip the Alaskan welfare bowls over will be met with much resistance. The entire state is full of drunks, grifters and pretty much aholes. It's a horrible place.

Posted by: American Party at July 11, 2025 02:05 PM (/U5Yz)

282 Wild guess here, but my thinking is De Niro probably has a midget dick.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 02:05 PM (W3T6M)

283
240 If the 'America' Party favors maintaining the H-1B program, that's a show-stopper.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird

But, but, but we just HAVE TO bring in low functioning lackwits from South Asia to do the jobs at reduced pay that Americans refuse to do for the Tech Overlords! And they excelled at Science clubs and embedded racial bigotry back in Uttar Pradesh!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 02:06 PM (Tv15w)

284 So it turns out that the late great Jim Sunk New Dawn was a dear friend of Kim Du Toit's.
Kim wrote a blog post (including pictures) about the loss of his good friend who was even more than we knew him to be.
https://tinyurl.com/Jim-SND
Please spread this around as far and wide as you can here and elsewhere since it deserves as many eyeballs as we can give it and I don't want any of us who knew him from here to miss it.
He was quite a guy wasn't he???
Just broadcasting this as far and wide as I can

Posted by: MAxIE at July 11, 2025 02:06 PM (p0Y4o)

285 [O/T but tangentially related to Prometheus:]

For some reason, my insomnia has returned.

In the middle of the night I was watching the end of the 1963 film "Jason And The Argonauts" -- thanks to the moron(s) who recommended it yesterday as I've never seen it (although the wifey had as a young'un).

Wow, Honor Blackman AND Nancy Kovack? They don't make babes like that anymore ...

Anywho, I just stumbled onto the scene where Jason (after Acastus) finally sees The Golden Fleece ... and it immediately reminded me of course of both Pulp Fiction and then Hitchcock's "MacGuffins" -- and of course Ace's famous & classic 2013 post about "The MacGuffinization of American Politics" and insight into "The Hero's Journey" a la The Holy Grail, Indiana Jones, Camelot, et. al. (I remember it being mentioned on air by both El Rushbo and Dennis Prager) -- to eventually be infamously & notoriously plagiarized by one Jonah Goldberg.

acecomments.mu.nu/?post=345514

Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 02:06 PM (N29CD)

286 240 If the 'America' Party favors maintaining the H-1B program, that's a show-stopper.
Posted by: Hacked gp'

That is their main purpose.
- H1Bs.
- legal drugs
- illegal guns
- Carbon tax (Elon likes!)
- EV
- cozying up to china
- H1Bs
- replacement migration

Posted by: bob (moron incognitus) at July 11, 2025 02:06 PM (8LN1t)

287 278 not to justify what the gop did, but imagine this year if the dems had congress and kamala was in the white house
Posted by: gnats local 678 at July 11, 2025 02:04 PM (CWTWj)

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Imagine who would have been appointed. It would have been worse than the twink who steals women's luggage, a fat ugly man pretending to be a woman running health, DEI dumbasses in every corner and generally faggotry being pushed.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:07 PM (PMtkd)

288 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

Thats why the Epstein files will never be released. These people don’t care about tax policy or immigration. Trump can do what he wants there.

But on the important stuff, Trump takes orders.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:07 PM (ImXfC)

289 288 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

Thats why the Epstein files will never be released. These people don’t care about tax policy or immigration. Trump can do what he wants there.

But on the important stuff, Trump takes orders.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:07 PM (ImXfC)

======

Well.

You've gone full stupid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

290 Again boring terminology is the issue, but "CR" is not the same thing as "omnibus" - both are appropriations bills. The first (in theory, and in past practice) just straight-lined appropriations beyond October 1 at the prior FY level, for 12 days or something, while the new FY appropriations bills were passed. To avoid "shut-downs".

An omnibus is just rolling all the approps bills into one, instead of having 12 separate ones.

None of these procedural options inherently are either bad or good. But the rush-job, lack of floor action approach of late fall omnibus CRs tend to be disastrous because they remove all possibility of "politics" on specific items, i.e. floor amendments and votes.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:08 PM (1m82a)

291 I have my boat winterized and summerized yearly.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:08 PM (ImXfC)

292 288 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

Oh, I see! CNN, whose reporters never attended any of Trump rallies, showed up in Butler that day just to film a warning shot.

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 02:08 PM (dCxaZ)

293 > Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:07 PM (ImXfC)

You're a lot funnier than Carrot Top. Kudos.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:08 PM (lIio7)

294 284 Thanks for the link!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:09 PM (TwZXH)

295 You've gone full stupid.

—

Thanks man. I appreciate your support.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:09 PM (ImXfC)

296 But, can he park a car?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (bvNHo)

297 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

Thats why the Epstein files will never be released. These people don’t care about tax policy or immigration. Trump can do what he wants there.

But on the important stuff, Trump takes orders.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:07 PM (ImXfC)

======

Well.

You've gone full stupid.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

I'm pretty sure he's a troll

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

298 >>>I know TJM has been praising it, but he also won't shut the f*** up about Prometheus, so... shrug.

To be fair, he won’t STFU about most everything.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (Y1sOo)

299 297 I'm pretty sure he's a troll
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

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Montec, I've always assumed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (GBKbO)

300 288 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

He intentionally shot Trump in the ear and missed his brain?

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (jYRYu)

301 Oh, I see! CNN, whose reporters never attended any of Trump rallies, showed up in Butler that day just to film a warning shot.
Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 02:08 PM (dCxaZ)

My conspiracy theory is cooler than yours.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (ImXfC)

302 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

A warning shot that would have killed its subject if he hadn't happened to turn his head a few degrees a fraction of a second earlier, possibly even while the bullet was in flight. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of "warning."

Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (/y8xj)

303 Laura Loomer@LauraLoomer

If Blondi is fired, I’m told @GovRonDeSantis has been considered/floated for the role of Attorney General by some over the last few months.

There’s also a private push behind the scenes by some GOP donors who want to see @KenPaxtonTX as AG, but he has US Senate aspirations.

However, discussions have been taking place for several months about who could be Blondi’s replacement if she ever was fired or resigned.

She has not done a good job as AG and everyone knows it.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (TGPs7)

304
Rumors are that Disney is working on a sequel to Prometheus starring Rachel Zegler.

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Prometheus? Isn't there a Viking movie they could cast her in?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (UmB+t)

305 Go Time isn't stupid he just thinks outside the box.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (Qr870)

306 You're a lot funnier than Carrot Top. Kudos.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:08 PM (lIio7)

Saw a podcast about a year ago with Carrot Top and he's a likable dude.

One thing he talked about was not understanding the hate he got. He wasn't trying to do anything other than what was funny to him. Never stole anything or acted like he was better.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (j/vBG)

307 There is nothing wrong with Prometheus, except the space cobras.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (XV/Pl)

308 Is this difficult for you to fathom? I don't give a fuck about Trump either way, I care about all these rapist assholes walking around free and likely making the rules for the rest of us.
Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:04 PM (Qr870

Biden's open borders policy kicked the child trafficking rate upwards by an order of magnitude. Perhaps two orders of magnitude. That matters to me even more than the evil concocted by Epstein, his confederates, and his "guests". And the Dems are willing to use any means necessary to protect the child traffickers from DJT and the DHS.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:12 PM (rj6Yv)

309 303 Laura Loomer@LauraLoomer

If Blondi is fired, I’m told @GovRonDeSantis has been considered/floated for the role of Attorney General by some over the last few months.

Looney Loomer ? Grain of salt

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 02:12 PM (VE6XX)

310 My conspiracy theory is cooler than yours.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (ImXfC)

I defer to your obvious superior intellect and ability to qualify conspiracy theories

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 02:12 PM (dCxaZ)

311 300 288 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

He intentionally shot Trump in the ear and missed his brain?
Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis

He waited for the precise second Trump turned his head toward the teleprompter before he squeezed the trigger. Amazing.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:12 PM (/U5Yz)

312 No tax cuts - or increases - or anything else passed by Congress is "permanent", of course. Can't bind future Congresses, blah blah blah.

And since reconciliation remains a mostly mysterious thing to me, still don't understand how DHS got, in effect, appropriations in it. Unless there was revenue raised/existing revenue redirected, somehow. But still, reconciliation was never intended to do appropriations, don't understand how it does now.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:13 PM (1m82a)

313 One thing he talked about was not understanding the hate he got. He wasn't trying to do anything other than what was funny to him. Never stole anything or acted like he was better.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (j/vBG)

It’s like Nickelback. Nobody knows why they hate Nickelback they just know they have to.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:13 PM (ImXfC)

314 247 Ace crushed TJM like a relentlessly rolling giant-space-donut (GSD) pursuing its prey.
Posted by: banana Dream
......

He should have veered right.
Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (UjdFS)

Just drop prone and roll right three times.
That will get you out of the way of a kilometer-sized space donut.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 02:13 PM (xcxpd)

315 Laura Loomer@LauraLoomer

If Blondi is fired, I’m told @GovRonDeSantis has been considered/floated for the role of Attorney General by some over the last few months.

Looney Loomer ? Grain of salt
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 02:12 PM (VE6XX)
__________

OMG, Bondi isn't going anywhere. Sheeh.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (iFTx/)

316 "I know TJM has been praising it [the OBBB], but he also won't shut the f*** up about Prometheus, so... shrug."

I guess this is showing my ignorance, but who is TJM?

Posted by: Ralph at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (8WZD4)

317 Trump is not interested in Epstein. Why are you ? Do Epstein scouts think that Trump's hiding something and you want him exposed ?? Is that it ???
Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 01:56 PM (g47mK)

If Epstein was an Intel Op, then I want the trafficked girls to get a GS pension and VA benefits.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (D7oie)

318 316 "I know TJM has been praising it [the OBBB], but he also won't shut the f*** up about Prometheus, so... shrug."

I guess this is showing my ignorance, but who is TJM?
Posted by: Ralph at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (8WZD4)

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An illiterate asshole.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (GBKbO)

319 Laura Loomer@LauraLoomer

If Blondi is fired, I’m told @GovRonDeSantis has been considered/floated for the role of Attorney General by some over the last few months.

I would take Barney Fife over this blonde nitwit. She's a terrible liar.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (/U5Yz)

320 The James Madison?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (bvNHo)

321 The Trump shooter didn’t miss. It was a warning shot.

A warning shot that would have killed its subject if he hadn't happened to turn his head a few degrees a fraction of a second earlier, possibly even while the bullet was in flight. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of "warning."
Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (/y8xj)

The assassin sure didn't care about "collateral damage", either. He murdered one innocent man and seriously wounded two others.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (rj6Yv)

322 Electronic crop reports? The hell you say!

Posted by: Clarence Beeks at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (vbZ4Z)

323 Actually, Knickleback was the last gasp of the Rock and Roll genre.

Photograph is a great song about a small town boy reminiscing about the possibilities of life.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 02:15 PM (XV/Pl)

324 "She has not done a good job as AG and everyone knows it."

LOL

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 02:15 PM (1m82a)

325 There were no cuts in the bbb. There will not be rescission bills passed.

There are no spending cuts. They don’t exist. They’re a fugazi.

The sooner everyone understand this the better.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:15 PM (ImXfC)

326 Saw a podcast about a year ago with Carrot Top and he's a likable dude.

One thing he talked about was not understanding the hate he got. He wasn't trying to do anything other than what was funny to him. Never stole anything or acted like he was better.

I meant no ill will to Carrot Top. I was just laughing at the retarded comment. I used him as a reference mainly because he'd been mentioned previously in the thread.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:15 PM (lIio7)

327 325 There were no cuts in the bbb. There will not be rescission bills passed.

There are no spending cuts. They don’t exist. They’re a fugazi.

The sooner everyone understand this the better.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:15 PM (ImXfC)

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31 rescission sections in the OBBB. It's cutting. The welfare restrictions are cuts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

328 Hubert Laws:
youtube.com/watch?v=-rbBzbkvUBQ

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:16 PM (TwZXH)

329 Back in the day, I enjoyed Carrot Top's shows. I don't know where I watched them...youtube? Maybe a special on MTV?

He had clean humor and seemed likable.

I think he had too many surgeries on his face and now looks like an alien or Cathy Griffin, one of those.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:16 PM (PMtkd)

330
Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 02:06 PM (N29CD)

You have a really good memory.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:16 PM (CueAq)

331 The assassin sure didn't care about "collateral damage", either. He murdered one innocent man and seriously wounded two others.
Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:14 PM (rj6Yv)

These people raped thousands of kids. You think they care about some dead campaign rally attendee?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (ImXfC)

332 Prometheus II, or Carrots in the Chili.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (IEXd/)

333 Now I'm sorry for every time I ripped on Carrot Top. I feel like a real shit.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (TwZXH)

334 330
Posted by: ShainS -- Two Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 11, 2025 02:06 PM (N29CD)

You have a really good memory.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:16 PM (CueAq)

I remember.. It was the only Trump rally I ever watched...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (VE6XX)

335 I'm pretty sure he's a troll
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 02:10 PM (xcxpd)

There have been a couple of trolls that I wonder if they were actually AI bots to cause fights. They are the ones you insult their moms and they come back with more rational reasons why their point of view is correct.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (D7oie)

336 She has not done a good job as AG and everyone knows it.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (TGPs7)

I don't know that. I think Pam Bondi is a competent, loyal team player and has proven that she's willing to take the heat that kind of loyalty requires.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (rj6Yv)

337 Last night I was sitting here on the ONT and my laptop decided to do it's next Windows "update". It got about 30% in and went PtfPttffft. Then Blue Screen of Death. Then remembered that isn't a thing anymore, went to Black Screen of Death and now this morning nothing. It's totally dead. I'm going to give her a proper burial. She earned it.
I guess this is what microsoftdicks meant by "prepare for end of support".

Posted by: Reforger at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (SJnNf)

338 313 One thing he talked about was not understanding the hate he got. He wasn't trying to do anything other than what was funny to him. Never stole anything or acted like he was better.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 02:11 PM (j/vBG)

It’s like Nickelback. Nobody knows why they hate Nickelback they just know they have to.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:13 PM (ImXfC)

And yet, we all kind of came to that same conclusion around that same time. Even if their music is pretty much on par with everything that everyone seems to like.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 02:18 PM (j/vBG)

339 nood

Posted by: gKWVE at July 11, 2025 02:18 PM (gKWVE)

340 > Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (ImXfC)

The shooter went to Epstein island? You should write a book about that. I'm sure you'd sell millions of copies to idiots who think contrails are full of mind control chemicals.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 02:18 PM (lIio7)

341
I think he had too many surgeries on his face and now looks like an alien or Cathy Griffin, one of those.
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:16 PM (PMtkd)

The plastic surgery makes me feel sorry for him. He must've felt some sort of way to undergo facial procedures? He also is all puffed up body builder style.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 02:19 PM (CueAq)

342 I'm just a soul who's intentions are good
Oh Lord, please, don't let me be misunderstood

Minnesota Star Tribune Labels Illegal Alien Child Predators as "Misunderstood," DHS Fires Back

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 02:19 PM (L/fGl)

343 I suspect that this insider drama about the rescission package will fall like the insider drama did regarding the OBBB:

It'll be meaningless because it's just gonna pass in the end.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

It's a soundbite bill. Politicians love to give soundbites.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 02:19 PM (g8Ew8)

344 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (ImXfC)

They've done everything they can think of to stop Trump. Doesn't appear to be the stoppable type, and honestly if he was that much of a danger, they just make the shot happen and get someone controllable in place. A warning would be totally superfluous.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:19 PM (Qr870)

345
Fun fact: a cannibal won't eat carrot top Chili.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 02:20 PM (IEXd/)

346 337 Last night I was sitting here on the ONT and my laptop decided to do it's next Windows "update". It got about 30% in and went PtfPttffft. Then Blue Screen of Death. Then remembered that isn't a thing anymore, went to Black Screen of Death and now this morning nothing. It's totally dead. I'm going to give her a proper burial. She earned it.
I guess this is what microsoftdicks meant by "prepare for end of support".
Posted by: Reforger

I get that nag popup just about every day now. I'm holding off and will probably load a Unix emulator. F*ck MS.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 11, 2025 02:20 PM (/U5Yz)

347 31 rescission sections in the OBBB. It's cutting. The welfare restrictions are cuts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

I’m really stupid and slow. But let me ask you a simple question that a simpleton like me can understand.

Will there be more spending by the govt next year vs this year or less?

The answer of course is more. So please explain to me (the stupid guy) how spending more next year means spending is cut.

Maybe I’m just too dumb to understand how this special math works.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 02:20 PM (ImXfC)

348 I don't know that. I think Pam Bondi is a competent, loyal team player and has proven that she's willing to take the heat that kind of loyalty requires.
Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 02:17 PM (rj6Yv)

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I can't decide if she's a good soldier, doing as she is told or incompetent.

If you are not going to tell the truth for a good reason or bad, at least come up with something people can stomach. There may still be pushback, but it might be something they can swallow.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (PMtkd)

349 Prometheus II, or Carrots in the Chili.
Posted by: Commissar

I would note that you misspelled Chile but since you mentioned carrots, Chili is the preferred spelling. Plus it makes obvious to the locals here in New Mexico who to mock.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (NXz8h)

350 "idiots who think contrails are full of mind control chemicals."

Not chemicals: bioweaponized fungi spores.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (TwZXH)

351
tried to get electric buses off the ground in Rwanda,

With God as my witness I thought buses could fly.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (IEXd/)

352 Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 02:21 PM (PMtkd)

She fought to railroad Zimmerman along with her friend Ben Crump in a bs trial that helped split this country more than any event in the last 50 years. That should give your answer.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 02:22 PM (Qr870)

353 309 303 Laura Loomer@LauraLoomer

If Blondi is fired, I’m told @GovRonDeSantis has been considered/floated for the role of Attorney General by some over the last few months.

Looney Loomer ? Grain of salt
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 02:12 PM (VE6XX)

Isn't she a character in one of the Harry Potter series?

Posted by: Luna Lovegood at July 11, 2025 02:23 PM (TTAGa)

354 Chili is the preferred spelling. Plus it makes obvious to the locals here in New Mexico who to mock.

Well Mr new Mexico nazi, aren't you special.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 02:25 PM (IEXd/)

355 NPR Stations out here are not the stations you get the Crop Reports from.
Posted by: garrett
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Local 5,000 watt AM station. Also, recipes and bake sale announcements.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 02:26 PM (XeU6L)

356 Chile typically refers to the Capsicum pepper, while chili refers to the spicy stew made with those peppers, often including meat and beans. The spelling used can depend on geographic location, with "chili" being common in American English

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (IEXd/)

357 tried to get electric buses off the ground in Rwanda,

With God as my witness I thought buses could fly.
Posted by: Commissar
---------
City of Asheville to purchase zero-emission, electric transit buses
Posted on January 10, 2018

Multi-million-dollar loss for Asheville as flawed electric buses sit idle
January 18th 2024

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 11, 2025 02:29 PM (XeU6L)

358 312, Rhomboid, reconciliation allows for funds to be reprogrammed as long as the parliamentarian rules that the reason is more economic than new social policy. Technically enforcing existing authorizations for the border wall etc is not new social policy.

Posted by: whig's phone at July 11, 2025 02:36 PM (ySABm)

359 Trump is not interested in Epstein. Why are you ?

Because I don't get up in the morning saying "Well, if its good enough for Trump its good enough for me".

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 02:40 PM (KE3ho)

360 They love firing people almost as much as they love beating up women and children. But they won’t even do it in person. They’re just doing it by email? What a bunch of pussy ass bitches

Joe Biden was so good at international diplomacy and the rest of the world was glad to see him. Now what we got? this just gets worse every single day. Fuck Trump and his stupid DOGE agency!

Is the message here to Americans is don't travel? This is actually like an abusive relationship. Don’t talk to the neighbors! They’ll fill your head with LIES!

Tourism is way down here because no one knows what in the hell might happen to them here. I hate to sound paranoid but it’s like they are walking us in and everyone else out.

I guess that's why there's absolutely no diplomacy in this administration. Trump thinks diplomacy is for losers and winners just piss off everyone in the world apparently.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 02:55 PM (JCZqz)

"Protester" Gunman Opens Fire On ICE Agents as Democrats Continue Stoking Violence

Now they're shooting at ICE agents -- and Gavin Newsom is still inciting them to kill ICE agents.

Immigration operation at California cannabis farms leads to clash between federal agents and protesters
Protesters clash with authorities using tear gas and smoke bombs at state-licensed cannabis sites

Protesters clashed with federal authorities Thursday during an immigration operation north of Los Angeles at a marijuana farm allegedly employing illegal immigrants.
Multiple agents arrived at the Glass House Farms, a state-licensed cannabis facility which is considered illegal under federal law, in Camarillo. Federal authorities had a warrant for illegal employees, Fox News has learned.
Another raid also occurred at another Glass House Farm in Carpinteria.
People were seen confronting the agents, who used tear gas and smoke bombs. Federal personnel used gas to push back protesters who arrived on scene after getting word of a raid.
Military helicopters were also seen flying low over the fields, a maneuver generally used to flush out people hiding.
"It is becoming increasingly apparent that the actions taken by ICE are bold and aggressive, demonstrating insensitivity towards the direct impact on our community," Luis Mc Arthur, the mayor of nearby Oxnard, said in a social media post. "These actions are causing unnecessary distress and harm. I remain committed to working alongside our Attorney General and the Governor's office to explore potential legal avenues to address these activities."
Footage captured by the news outlet showed several people being detained.
U.S. Attorney for the Central District of California Bill Essayli said the FBI has offered a $50,000 award for information leading to the conviction of an unknown suspect who appeared to fire a pistol at federal law enforcement officers near Camarillo.
"FBI has issued a $50,000 award for information leading to the conviction of an Unknown Subject who appeared to fire a pistol at Federal Law Enforcement Officers near Camarillo," Essayli said on X. "The shooting occurred on 7/10/25 at approximately 2:26pm on Laguna Rd between Wood Rd and Las Posas Rd."

Four people were transported to the hospital, the Ventura County Fire Department said. Three additional people were treated at the scene without being transported, Fox Los Angeles reported.
...
Newsom criticized Thursday's raid and President Donald Trump on X.
"Kids running from tear gas, crying on the phone because their mother was just taken from the fields," the governor wrote in a post accompanied by a video showing people running to avoid tear gas deployed by authorities. "Trump calls me 'Newscum' -- but he's the real scum."

A mother "taken from the fields" = an illegal alien working illegally on a pot farm which is also illegal under federal law

He didn't say a thing about the shooting.

Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Rodney Scott responded to Newsom's post.
"Here's some breaking news: 10 juveniles were found at this marijuana facility - all illegal aliens, 8 of them unaccompanied. It's now under investigation for child labor violations," Scott wrote.

BREAKING: anti-ICE rioters are IMPEDING immigration officials and attacking their vehicles while waving foreign flags during a raid in Camarillo, California pic.twitter.com/rtbx11GxwY
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) July 10, 2025

BREAKING: 🚨 Protester caught on camera firing weapon at federal agents during immigration raid at California farm near Camarillo. pic.twitter.com/igVWBkL2o0
— E X X ➠A L E R T S (@ExxAlerts) July 11, 2025

Democrats continue refusing to condemn the violence perpetrated by their paid street paramilitaries:

Monstrous response from Democrat 'Leader' Hakeem Jeffries to CNN question about Democrat calls for violence, "blood"

CNN: "'There needs to be blood' ... How do you respond to that?"

JEFFRIES: "We are in a more is more environment!"

Repugnant! pic.twitter.com/dhMPfOyaBQ
— NRCC (@NRCC) July 10, 2025

Hakeem Jeffries virtue signals about civility, while simultaneously encouraging his party to spew the most vile, hateful rhetoric against our ICE agents.

Assaults against ICE agents are up 700%.

Meanwhile, multiple members of his own party have called ICE agents �the Gestapo,�� https://t.co/RK053J3TpK
— Congressman Brandon Gill (@RepBrandonGill) July 10, 2025

Girlfriend. YOU are the violence experts. The ones who dance on the graves of little girls drowning and LITERALLY CALL FOR BLOODSHED

Your OWN CHILDREN assault police officers and get off 'writing a letter'

DEMOCRATS ARE DISGUSTING AND DANGEROUS

"During her arrest, Dowell�
— tree hugging s*ster 🎃 (@WelbornBeege) July 10, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 12:02 PM

Comments

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1 Be fair, Ace. The kids can pick the lower buds much more easily than the adults.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (2yoRf)

2 Hello Ace

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (trxpo)

3 U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli @USAttyEssayli
Federal agents are executing a search warrant at this marijuana farm. Agents have already arrested multiple individuals for impeding this operation and will continue to make arrests. Don’t interfere. You will be arrested and charged with a federal offense.

https://tinyurl.com/34wkbpde
KTLA photos etc.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2025 12:05 PM (2yoRf)

4
Morning, ace!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:05 PM (UmB+t)

5
Dude, like, who's going to grow our pot?

*tokes*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 12:05 PM (HZi96)

6 People were seen confronting the agents"

"People" who just happened to be standing around a deserted rural road with signs, flags,and weapons?

Sure. Pull the other one, m'kay?

Posted by: man at July 11, 2025 12:06 PM (tubbA)

7 But Jasmine Crockett says only MAGA supporters are violence prone.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 12:07 PM (uWKK8)

8 Me thinks some people need to be visited by tier 1 operators.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 12:07 PM (snZF9)

9 "People" who just happened to be standing around a deserted rural road with signs, flags,and weapons?

Posted by: man at July 11, 2025 12:06 PM (tubbA)

Who tipped them off?

If I were an ICE officer I would be really pissed about that. That stuff will get one of them killed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 12:08 PM (L5An7)

10 Weapons free when?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:08 PM (xcxpd)

11 Monstrous response from Democrat 'Leader' Hakeem Jeffries to CNN question about Democrat calls for violence, "blood"

CNN: "'There needs to be blood' ... How do you respond to that?"

JEFFRIES: "We are in a more is more environment!"

=======

"Do you still blame Republican hate for the murder of JFK?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)

12 "which is considered illegal "

"is considered"...fucking media is still asshoe

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:09 PM (xcxpd)

13 Seeing to it that these left wing scofflaws serve long sentences in prison will be almost as effective as going fully Pinochet.

So let the charges and prosecutions begin!

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at July 11, 2025 12:09 PM (xmFdX)

14 Willowed from art thread.

Staff at a California Surgical Center tried to block ICE from arresting two illegals in there.

What the headlines and reporting doesn't tell you until the end is that they were not patients but rather ran in there from the parking lot after confronted by ICE .

They also described one of the illegals as a landscaper sending home money to his mom for her dialysis treatment. Yeah right. ( illegals were Honduran)

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:09 PM (VofaG)

15 And Gavin Newsom called Libs of TikTok a shit poster after she called him out. Not one word, but two. Intentional? Or clueless?

https://tinyurl.com/3f9pc54f

He quit after she responded:

(spaces)

https://tinyurl.com/22f78u3x

Posted by: Ann at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (4neFu)

16 Took the mom...left the kid?
My BS meter is pegged.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (W/lyH)

17 Hakeem is a true idiot. The only skill he has is making nonsense words come out of his mouth whenever he's asked a question that he doesn't have a canned answer for.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (uWKK8)

18 Okay, when is Trump actually going to do something about this? We've had two serious instances of federal agents being shot at by left-wing terrorists now, and it's been crickets from DC. That's on top of the Tesla riots and the LA riots, which received only minimal responses.

Why aren't the organizers and funders being arrested? Why aren't their assets being seized? Is that just "not who we are?"

Posted by: Doomberg at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (iX4LI)

19 "Protestor" has lousy form and accuracy.
Thankfully.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (xcxpd)

20 Why is Trump taking away the California marijuana industry's child slaves? Because he's just like Hitler, that's why!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 12:11 PM (y+qgR)

21 People were seen confronting the agents, who used tear gas and smoke bombs. Federal personnel used gas to push back protesters who arrived on scene after getting word of a raid.

Military helicopters were also seen flying low over the fields, a maneuver generally used to flush out people hiding.

Run an A-10 brrrrrt brrrrrt thru the crowd.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 12:11 PM (8v2yu)

22 18 Okay, when is Trump actually going to do something about this? We've had two serious instances of federal agents being shot at by left-wing terrorists now, and it's been crickets from DC. That's on top of the Tesla riots and the LA riots, which received only minimal responses.

Why aren't the organizers and funders being arrested? Why aren't their assets being seized? Is that just "not who we are?"
Posted by: Doomberg at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (iX4LI)

======

Regarding the TX shooting, 10 other members of the cell got picked up on attempted federal murder charges and there's a $35,000 bounty out for the leader of the cell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:12 PM (GBKbO)

23 21 People were seen confronting the agents, who used tear gas and smoke bombs. Federal personnel used gas to push back protesters who arrived on scene after getting word of a raid.

Military helicopters were also seen flying low over the fields, a maneuver generally used to flush out people hiding.

Run an A-10 brrrrrt brrrrrt thru the crowd.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 12:11 PM (8v2yu)

Hell, two hard men with rifles can disperse this shit in minutes.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:12 PM (xcxpd)

24 Legal marijuana field is what gets me. Waiting for the legal poppy fields in a few decades.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:12 PM (VofaG)

25 I have a theory. These children being snatched from mother's arms are theoretical. As in, yes, it could possibly happen. But it's far more likely that due to enforcement efforts, children are being rescued from exploitation and the adults they accompany are their exploiters. Also, I expect that enforcers try to keep actual families together and deal with them as a unit.

I could be too pollyannish and wrong, though.

Posted by: Emmie at July 11, 2025 12:12 PM (rF2iL)

26
Okay, I give up. What did Randy Fine say?

(looking it up)

On Tuesday, Rep. Omar posted on X (formerly Twitter) regarding Netanyahu’s visit, stating:

“War criminals should not be welcomed by any president or Congress. He should be held accountable for his crimes, not platformed.”

This comment referenced the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) arrest warrant for Netanyahu, issued in November over alleged war crimes in Gaza.

Florida GOP Rep. Randy Fine replied to Omar’s post, saying, “I’m sure it is difficult to see us welcome the killer of so many of your fellow Muslim terrorists. The only shame is that you serve in Congress.”

pffft on both your houses. I was better at name-calling when I was an 11-year-old Catholic schoolgirl.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:13 PM (UmB+t)

27 "Protestor" has lousy form and accuracy.
Thankfully.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (xcxpd)

Good point MAE.
I also will no longer use the term protestor. They are terrorists at best, a fifth column at worst as we slowly ease our way in to a Low Intensity Conflict within our borders.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (W/lyH)

28 You will be arrested and charged with a federal offense.

scoop 'em up, send 'em all to Club Fed

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (dCxaZ)

29 Is Randy Fine the guy that documented the evidence that Ilhan Omar lied on her citizenship forms and that she married her brother? How is it Islamophobic to point out criminal activity, unless of course Hakeem Jefferies is arguing that it is Islamic culture to cheat and lie and to attack aspect of their culture is Islamophobic.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (Dv3i1)

30 The 8 or so children are probably lucky they 'only' were sold into slavery at a pot farm and not as sex toys for the left.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)

31 17 Hakeem is a true idiot. The only skill he has is making nonsense words come out of his mouth whenever he's asked a question

you laugh, but that skill got kamala the vice-presidency

Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (v3pYe)

32 24 Legal marijuana field is what gets me. Waiting for the legal poppy fields in a few decades.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:12 PM (VofaG)

Decades?
Oregon is already doing that shit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (xcxpd)

33
it's far more likely that due to enforcement efforts, children are being rescued from exploitation

I could be too pollyannish and wrong, though.
Posted by: Emmie

==============

One of our morons (Hatari?) says the pot farms are Chinese-owned, so exploitation of child labor would make sense.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (UmB+t)

34 The feds seem to be following the mob takedown playbook of scooping up as much of the low levels as possible.

This should lead to them pressuring (using normal fed prosecutor tactics) to get the low level guys to turn on higher level guys for reduced sentences.

Any antifa investigation in Trump's first term (which I've read there definitely was one) was obviously squashed by Garland through Biden's administration, so tying old investigative research to new events is probably difficult, at best.

People want theater. I get it.

I see fast action against low level guys who show their asses and think that it's all an effort to tamp down on the street action while building cases for the whole operation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

35 This is brilliant.

The Democrats are being forced to defend the use of illegal child labor in marijuana grows.

Bonus points if it turns out that the marijuana grow is owned by the cartels, via a couple of middlemen.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (xTIDn)

36 Stoop labor

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (63Dwl)

37 35 Bonus points if it turns out that the marijuana grow is owned by the cartels, via a couple of middlemen.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (xTIDn)

======

Does the cartel even have to use middle men to own marijuana fields in CA anymore?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

38 Oregon is already doing that shit.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (xcxpd)

Really. They have opium fields. I did not know that.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (VofaG)

39 28 You will be arrested and charged with a federal offense.

scoop 'em up, send 'em all to Club Fed

scoop, you say?

Posted by: soylent green at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (v3pYe)

40 Who owns this weed farm?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (j/vBG)

41 children are being rescued from exploitation and the adults they accompany "

Hmm. DNA tests? Oh, can't do that...

Posted by: man at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (tubbA)

42 30 The 8 or so children are probably lucky they 'only' were sold into slavery at a pot farm and not as sex toys for the left.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)

well they could be multi-tasking

and after their field-picking and sex toy duties are done, they'll be organ harvested!

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (dCxaZ)

43 I'd suggest taking things up a notch. Look for illegal aliens employed within the infrastructure of the State of California. I'm willing to bet that thousands of these people exist. This is a direct violation of Federal Law. And, the employer (State of California) is then subject to Civil and Criminal violations.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (dIske)

44 34 The feds seem to be following the mob takedown playbook of scooping up as much of the low levels as possible.

This should lead to them pressuring (using normal fed prosecutor tactics) to get the low level guys to turn on higher level guys for reduced sentences.

Any antifa investigation in Trump's first term (which I've read there definitely was one) was obviously squashed by Garland through Biden's administration, so tying old investigative research to new events is probably difficult, at best.

People want theater. I get it.

I see fast action against low level guys who show their asses and think that it's all an effort to tamp down on the street action while building cases for the whole operation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO)

Kill schicken to scare a monkey.

Posted by: Chinese proverb at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (vm8sq)

45 40 Who owns this weed farm?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (j/vBG)

=====

Reading up about it, the whole operation was signed off by a federal judge with the target being the farm itself for its labor violations, not just the people working on it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (GBKbO)

46 Really. They have opium fields. I did not know that.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:15 PM (VofaG)

Poppy fields of the Willamette Valley.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (xcxpd)

47 Legal marijuana field is what gets me.

I suspect that the grow is still illegal under Federal law - it's just that the Federal government has chosen not to enforce that particular law for years.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (xTIDn)

48 Make Helicopter Rides Great Again!

Posted by: Josephistan at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (y9ksN)

49 Legal marijuana field is what gets me. Waiting for the legal poppy fields in a few decades.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:12 PM (VofaG)

Decades?
Oregon is already doing that shit.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (xcxpd)

***

In the forests of Oregon and Washington it can be very dangerous if you stumble into the wrong fields.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH)

50 > Staff at a California Surgical Center tried to block ICE from arresting two illegals in there.

If it's the incident I'm thinking of, they locked the door, called 911 to report a kidnapping, and tried to physically restrain ICE agents.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (lIio7)

51 Who owns this weed farm?
====

*hic* Not me... *hic*

Posted by: John Boehner at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (+K1xO)

52 Lol...no mention of cannabis at DU...

HAPPENING NOW: ICE agents raid Ventura County Farm in California. Reporter: "It's gonna be at least 100 workers being detained, maybe even a couple of hundred."

How fucking stupid is ICE Barbie? Seriously. Is she trying to create food shortages in the country?

Trump hates CA and is probably trying to devastate our economy. fields in Ventura County are some of the most productive in the US, possibly the world.

Trump is probably gleeful and having his goons installing those "special" showers just like they had in Poland in 1945. Musk calls those "the good old days"...

ICE shoot "less than lethal" bullets & tear gas canisters into crowd of unarmed civilians who were filming them. Paramedics called in for what they called a "multi-casualty incident."

Reporter: "It appeared very peaceful until just a few minutes ago, when it looks like border patrol launched some sort of smoke-type irritant like tear gas...

One of these raids is going to turn into a real battle very soon. Bullets, real ones, will be fired on both sides. I wouldn't blame farm workers if they started packing heat.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (yUIA1)

53 Hakeem Jefferies is arguing that it is Islamic culture to cheat and lie and to attack aspect of their culture is Islamophobic.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (Dv3i1)

It is in their culture to lie and cheat to get what they want.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (/YboP)

54 49 In the forests of Oregon and Washington it can be very dangerous if you stumble into the wrong fields.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH)

=======

I saw a documentary about this.

Green Room.

Turns out that Patrick Stewart is actually a Neo-Nazi.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)

55 With all the protests and attacks on federal agents, it seems to me we are in the initial stages of our second civil war. Hope I’m wrong.

Posted by: RobertM at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (btIS/)

56 Illegal children picking the marijuana that Americans won't pick.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (xTIDn)

57 The children were illegally trafficked, were slave labor at a marijuana farm with known issues such as not paying wages and not adhering to breaks. But yes, legalizing marijuana certainly put all the bad guys out of business and see? It’s harmless. Insert huge eyeroll here.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (p4NUW)

58 One of our morons (Hatari?) says the pot farms are Chinese-owned, so exploitation of child labor would make sense.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (UmB+t)

Revenge for the opium dens.

Posted by: Emmie at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (rF2iL)

59 Antifa seems to think that the old rules are still in play. It's fun watching them learn otherwise.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (lXoJ5)

60 NVM - Here's the Randy Fine controversy

On Tuesday, Fine slammed Omar for criticizing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s third visit to Washington this year.

“War criminals should not be welcomed by any president or Congress. He should be held accountable for his crimes, not platformed. Beyond shameful,” Omar wrote in a post on the social platform X.

“I’m sure it is difficult to see us welcome the killer of so many of your fellow Muslim terrorists,” Fine wrote in a Wednesday post on X. “The only shame is that you serve in Congress,” he added.

Three days prior, Fine commented “Muslim terrorists hang out together,” under a picture of Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Minn.) and New York City Democratic mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani, who are both Muslim.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (Dv3i1)

61 52 One of these raids is going to turn into a real battle very soon. Bullets, real ones, will be fired on both sides. I wouldn't blame farm workers if they started packing heat.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (yUIA1)

======

"Weird, this story of an illegal immigrant farm working trying to murder an ICE agent isn't getting traction in the New York Times. Weird."
-DU, after it happens

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (GBKbO)

62 In the forests of Oregon and Washington it can be very dangerous if you stumble into the wrong fields.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH)

Very true.
And it's one reason I hike with a G20...not so much for bears as for two legged animals.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (xcxpd)

63 "Protestor" has lousy form and accuracy.
Thankfully.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM

Fortunately, most of our enemies are not followers of Weasel Doctrine, and their shit is most wobbly.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (Wnv9h)

64 Using little kids in the marijuana field can't be good for the munchkins' health. Contact with cannabis may be fine for adults but repeated contact by juveniles may lead to problems down the road.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (gm9Sb)

65
Who tipped them off?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

===============

Noem needs to get on this.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (UmB+t)

66 Lol...no mention of cannabis at DU...

A California congressman (born in Mexico) is pretending that this is a strawberry farm, because that looks better.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (xTIDn)

67 In the forests of Oregon and Washington it can be very dangerous if you stumble into the wrong fields.
Posted by: Dioge

it is fair to say stumbling in the woods is always dangerous

Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (YJS35)

68 Turns out that Patrick Stewart is actually a Neo-Nazi.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)

I KNEW it!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (xcxpd)

69
How fucking stupid is ICE Barbie? Seriously. Is she trying to create food shortages in the country?

Food ? You mean pot shortages...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (VE6XX)

70 I see fast action against low level guys who show their asses and think that it's all an effort to tamp down on the street action while building cases for the whole operation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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We can't have reasonable takes here! Hair must be on fire that SOMETHING MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY or the world ends.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (ctrM5)

71
Why aren't the organizers and….being arrested? Why aren't their assets being seized? Is that just "not who we are?"
Posted by: Doomberg at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (iX4LI)

So the message I got on my phone, heralded by the EBS tones, searching for the leader of the cell was just a figment of my imagination?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:20 PM (vm8sq)

72 Looking at the videos, I don't understand why the "protesters" aren't being arrested for their obvious crimes. I want them to be treated the same way that Trump supporters would be treated if they acted the same way. One Standard Applied Equally to Everybody.

Posted by: Nigh the End at July 11, 2025 12:20 PM (qUkBO)

73
The children were illegally trafficked, were slave labor at a marijuana farm with known issues such as not paying wages and not adhering to breaks. But yes, legalizing marijuana certainly put all the bad guys out of business and see? It’s harmless. Insert huge eyeroll here.
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (p4NUW)

We have not seen the bottom of the consequences of legalized pot.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 12:20 PM (HZi96)

74 68 Turns out that Patrick Stewart is actually a Neo-Nazi.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)

I KNEW it!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (xcxpd)

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I don't know if you've seen Green Room or any of Jeremy Saulnier's movies but...

Recommend.

Not happy movies. But, recommend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)

75 The "protestor" was lucky he didn't shoot someone in the head. Not an ICE officer, there was no chance of that, but the idiots running along behind him. He had no discipline.

Posted by: huerfano at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (n2swS)

76 That last video, newsreader says "he fired some kind of gun". It was an Assault Gun!

Then later she says he "fired back" at agents, though agents hadn't fired (afaik), they just threw smoke (or tear gas).

Posted by: illiniwek at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (vbXSk)

77 55 With all the protests and attacks on federal agents, it seems to me we are in the initial stages of our second civil war. Hope I’m wrong.
Posted by: RobertM at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (btIS/)

We will be if the feds don't start shooting to kill at people who try to hurt them.

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (/YboP)

78 Reporter: "It appeared very peaceful until just a few minutes ago, when it looks like border patrol launched some sort of smoke-type irritant like tear gas.

While they peaceably shot at ICE and put flag poles in the spokes of the tires while attacking the cars.. peaceful.. Right.....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (VE6XX)

79 70 I see fast action against low level guys who show their asses and think that it's all an effort to tamp down on the street action while building cases for the whole operation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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We can't have reasonable takes here! Hair must be on fire that SOMETHING MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY or the world ends.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (ctrM5)

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I demand Pam Bondi detailing all work on all ongoing investigations near and dear to my heart on a daily basis from a press room in the DOJ headquarters building.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

80 > "Kids running from tear gas, crying on the phone because their mother was just taken from the fields," the governor wrote in a post accompanied by a video showing people running to avoid tear gas deployed by authorities.

Those children were present because they were working in the fields too.

Video here:
http://tiny.cc/8p5p001

I see two kids that look about 10 years old. So not only is Newsom supporting illegals harvesting illegal drugs, he supporting illegal child labor.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (lIio7)

81 Trump hates CA and is probably trying to devastate our economy.
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If that were Trump's goal, even he wouldn't come anywhere close to the damage to CA as what Dem rule has and is doing.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (Dv3i1)

82 Legal marijuana field is what gets me. Waiting for the legal poppy fields in a few decades.
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:12 PM (VofaG)

In the morning thread, Helena asked: "...in the growing awareness of the American electorate, the President of the United States does not control the Intelligence Community." Regardless of your opinion of the source - is this statement incorrect?
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I believe that the statement is correct. In fact, I believe that the globalist IC is ultimately responsible for a large amount of the drug and human trafficking in the world. I believe that they were the recipients of an enormous amount of US "foreign aid" and I believe that they use this money to further then goals of their group.

I believe that they are, essentially, Malthusian and a big driver in the push to destroy western civilization. I believe that they control most of Congress which is why they continue to refuse to do things to improve the issues plaguing our country.

I am also, in the likelihood that members of the IC monitor these comments, reasonably healthy and in good spirits.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (ExV1e)

83 @GavinNewsom
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14h
Of course I condemn any assault on law enforcement, you shit poster.

Shit Governor says what?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 12:22 PM (M0V4/)

84 How fucking stupid is ICE Barbie? Seriously. Is she trying to create food shortages in the country?"

This is pretty funny considering that it was a Marijuana farm being raided.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 12:22 PM (uWKK8)

85 72 Looking at the videos, I don't understand why the "protesters" aren't being arrested for their obvious crimes. I want them to be treated the same way that Trump supporters would be treated if they acted the same way. One Standard Applied Equally to Everybody.
Posted by: Nigh the End at July 11, 2025 12:20 PM (qUkBO)

They were initially out numbered...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:22 PM (VE6XX)

86
Reading up about it, the whole operation was signed off by a federal judge with the target being the farm itself for its labor violations, not just the people working on it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

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After all the smoke and noise, did LE ever manage to round up the farm's owners/managers?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:22 PM (UmB+t)

87 57 The children were illegally trafficked, were slave labor at a marijuana farm with known issues such as not paying wages and not adhering to breaks. But yes, legalizing marijuana certainly put all the bad guys out of business and see? It’s harmless. Insert huge eyeroll here.
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 12:18 PM (p4NUW)

You goober. Pot is THE wonder drug and it must be legal. There is no good argument against it. Not even yours.

Posted by: Michael Berry at July 11, 2025 12:23 PM (vm8sq)

88 84 How fucking stupid is ICE Barbie? Seriously. Is she trying to create food shortages in the country?"

This is pretty funny considering that it was a Marijuana farm being raided.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 12:22 PM (uWKK

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I bet I could find a website to a marijuana harvesting machine that does the work of 100 illegals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:23 PM (GBKbO)

89 TMJ late in the ONT I noted that (criminal warrant being served) - but the info I saw said it was for harboring illegal aliens, not for weed-related issues. Separately, I saw it claimed that a local ordnance banned commercial marijuana cultivation in that area.

Another current mystery is how a "protest" was ginned up - including people who'd apparently driven up from LA (60-90 minutes away, minimum) and had pre-printed signs. WTF? This op was a true raid, involving use of a helicopter and military perimeter security (I believe USMC). Which also raises the question whether it was to get management (warrant) or illegals themselves, or both. Don't need to roll heavy with surprise to serve a warrant on owners/managers (BTW, also, Chinese or cartel involvement suggested in one report).

Meanwhile, that little stretch of Ventura County has long been a beautiful and quiet one. Fields starting to get paved over with townhouses up in Ventura itself, but still a dramatic change in "feel" from LA.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:23 PM (1m82a)

90 The lefties are like 2 year olds throwing a temper tantrum. It’s worse than that though…. It’s widespread mental illness. I mean in that video from Camarillo what was the rationale for poking at the sides of those military vehicles with a Mexican flag. Did the freak with multi-colored hair actually think that would stop the vehicles??? Their brains aren’t functioning properly

In Romans 1, Paul describes the final stage of God’s judgement (for rejecting Him) as a “reprobate mind”… literally translated this means a mind that doesn’t function properly. We’re seeing that pervasively in every direction

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 12:23 PM (OW907)

91 Military age foreign invaders on American soil.
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Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 12:23 PM (C6guj)

92 89 TMJ late in the ONT I noted that (criminal warrant being served) - but the info I saw said it was for harboring illegal aliens, not for weed-related issues. Separately, I saw it claimed that a local ordnance banned commercial marijuana cultivation in that area.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:23 PM (1m82a)

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I thought I implied that it was over the labor violations, but yeah, that's my understanding of the order.

It's due process!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

93 In a unique farewell, Darrell "Plant" Thomas, a beloved car wash owner from East Detroit, made a lasting impact on his community by having his life savings dropped from a helicopter at his funeral on Friday (June 27). Thomas, who passed away from Alzheimer's at 58, had always been known for his generosity. His sons honored his final wish by orchestrating the dramatic event over Gratiot Avenue and Connor Street, where Thomas's business, Airport Express Lube & Service, was located.

The helicopter showered mourners and bystanders with $5,000 in cash and rose petals, stopping traffic as people rushed to collect the falling bills. Despite the potential for chaos, the crowd remained calm and respectful. Longtime employee Lisa Knife told the Daily Mail, "There was no fighting, none of that. It was really beautiful."

Via WRKO

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 12:24 PM (TGPs7)

94 This buds for you.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:24 PM (bvNHo)

95 We have not seen the bottom of the consequences of legalized pot.

Many more auto accidents, and hugely increased numbers of people having schizophrenia and psychotic episodes (particularly among young people).

What's not to like?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:24 PM (xTIDn)

96 Hakeem needs a festive little hat. Nailed on.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 12:24 PM (C6guj)

97 I demand Pam Bondi detailing all work on all ongoing investigations near and dear to my heart on a daily basis from a press room in the DOJ headquarters building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!

Posted by: AoS Eeyores at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (vm8sq)

98 Is this "firing but mostly peaceful"?

Posted by: Eeyore at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (od0dV)

99 I demand Pam Bondi detailing all work on all ongoing investigations near and dear to my heart on a daily basis from a press room in the DOJ headquarters building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

And she should wear something flattering and show off her legs!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (xcxpd)

100 97 I demand Pam Bondi detailing all work on all ongoing investigations near and dear to my heart on a daily basis from a press room in the DOJ headquarters building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!
Posted by: AoS Eeyores at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (vm8sq)

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I demand Kash Patel arrest anyone who looks at me funny on the Internet.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (GBKbO)

101 If I know anything about leftists, growing and picking their own weed is just about the only manual labor I can think of that they'd genuinely actually do themselves.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (B9Prs)

102 It seems to me that the impact of illegal aliens in the agricultural areas of CA can be indirectly measured by correlating the per capita income and home prices for a given rural area. If you find a per capita income of $25K and home prices approaching $300K, well, how is that possible? One answer my be to go count the number of cars parked out front of a given residence.

As for the weed farm riot and the recent Mexican flag waving ceremonies in LA, the illegal alien invasion is rapidly moving into a guerilla warfare phase.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 12:26 PM (NXz8h)

103 99 And she should wear something flattering and show off her legs!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (xcxpd)

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I think she has a weird face.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:26 PM (GBKbO)

104 Those of us of a certain age can remember Mom and Dad saying "hey, lets take a nice drive and pick some strawberries". And after an hour or so of stoop labor you want Mom and Dad to go to Kroger's. Now, a 12 or 15 hour shift in the pot field.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (gm9Sb)

105 I demand Pam Bondi detailing all work on all ongoing investigations near and dear to my heart on a daily basis from a press room in the DOJ headquarters building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:21 PM (GBKbO)

Also, drop all in-progress operations to focus exclusively on the latest big thing whenever a new one emerges.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (ExV1e)

106 Here's some fuel for the fire. Guess who runs the "legal" pot trade in California? Here's a clue. It begins with "car" and ends with "tels."

Posted by: Joefrombako at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (tAiFZ)

107 91 Military age foreign invaders on American soil.
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Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 12:23 PM (C6guj)

So you wholeheartedly endorse illegal immigration, so long as the illegal immigrant is NOT of “military age”. Got it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (vm8sq)

108 105 Also, drop all in-progress operations to focus exclusively on the latest big thing whenever a new one emerges.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (ExV1e)

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If the DOJ hasn't had a full trial and execution within 6 hours of a bad thing happening, then the deep state has won.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (GBKbO)

109 I don't know if you've seen Green Room or any of Jeremy Saulnier's movies but...

Recommend.

Not happy movies. But, recommend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:20 PM (GBKbO)

I'll consider it, I'm not really into his genre anymore.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (xcxpd)

110 Many more auto accidents, and hugely increased numbers of people having schizophrenia and psychotic episodes (particularly among young people).

You have boomers, who grew up smoking the marijuana equivalent of 3.5 beer, legalizing the marijuana equivalent of Everclear.

Who knew?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (xTIDn)

111 Fortunately, most of our enemies are not followers of Weasel Doctrine, and their shit is most wobbly.

Couldn't really see his watch in that video.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (/y8xj)

112 How fucking stupid is ICE Barbie? Seriously. Is she trying to create food shortages in the country?"

This is pretty funny considering that it was a Marijuana farm being raided.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 12:22 PM (uWKK

Brownies... duh.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (ExV1e)

113 The helicopter showered mourners and bystanders with $5,000 in cash

As God is my witness, I thought money could fly."

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (C6guj)

114 Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 12:24 PM

I must have missed something a while back...what's the origin of the "festive little hats" meme?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (Wnv9h)

115 103 99 And she should wear something flattering and show off her legs!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (xcxpd)

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I think she has a weird face.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:26 PM (GBKbO)

I'll be honest, I barely make it to her chin when I'm looking at her.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (xcxpd)

116 106 Here's some fuel for the fire. Guess who runs the "legal" pot trade in California? Here's a clue. It begins with "car" and ends with "tels."
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This, I assure you, is a legitimate business.

Posted by: Gus F., Los Pollos Hermanos, proprieter at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (Dv3i1)

117 101 If I know anything about leftists, growing and picking their own weed is just about the only manual labor I can think of that they'd genuinely actually do themselves.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (B9Prs)

Libertarians especially.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (vm8sq)

118 In the forests of Oregon and Washington it can be very dangerous if you stumble into the wrong fields.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (W/lyH)

That used to be the case in Northern California. Probably still is!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (L5An7)

119 > Many more auto accidents, and hugely increased numbers of people having schizophrenia and psychotic episodes (particularly among young people).

Medical Journal Heart, "Cannabis use and risk of major adverse cardiovascular events: a systematic review and meta-analysis." June 2025.

Regular cannabis use might double the risk of dying from heart disease and increase stroke and heart event risks by 20-30%

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 12:29 PM (lIio7)

120 104 Those of us of a certain age can remember Mom and Dad saying "hey, lets take a nice drive and pick some strawberries". And after an hour or so of stoop labor you want Mom and Dad to go to Kroger's. Now, a 12 or 15 hour shift in the pot field.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (gm9Sb)

Hey, wasn't strawberry picking fun? Now...what the hell are we going to do with 9 lbs. of strawberries?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 12:29 PM (j/vBG)

121 Getting in cartel business.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 12:29 PM (jgmnb)

122 99 And she should wear something flattering and show off her legs!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:25 PM (xcxpd)

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I think she has a weird face.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:26 PM (GBKbO)

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe gentlemen prefer blondes, but for me there’s something I like about the whole package. Like Sammy Hagar in his VH stint: here it comes, that funny feeling again winding me up inside…. 🎶

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 12:30 PM (OW907)

123 120 Hey, wasn't strawberry picking fun? Now...what the hell are we going to do with 9 lbs. of strawberries?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 12:29 PM (j/vBG)

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Throwing out 8.5 lbs of it in a week?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:30 PM (GBKbO)

124 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:30 PM (+qU29)

125 So you wholeheartedly endorse slaughter of cattle, especially the gay ones, cowpoke.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 12:30 PM (C6guj)

126 Kids working as slaves so left wingers can drug themselves is about a democrat as you can get.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 11, 2025 12:30 PM (4mQ32)

127 This will continue until Bondi/Patel arrest the people calling the shots which are various high profile Dem/Left leaders.

No one cares if they arrest the street level thugs - they all expect to get out, and get a payday, in the short term.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:30 PM (t0Rmr)

128 Leftists want the American Civil War II

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

129 I never liked strawberries. Too fruity.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (bvNHo)

130 So you wholeheartedly endorse illegal immigration, so long as the illegal immigrant is NOT of “military age”. Got it.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:27 PM (vm8sq)

Work on your reading comprehension. He didn't say that.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (L5An7)

131 In the forests of Oregon and Washington it can be very dangerous if you stumble into the wrong fields.
Posted by: Dioge

it is fair to say stumbling in the woods is always dangerous
Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (YJS35)
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True enough but usually you ca pick yourself up and say a couple of bad words and carry on. In the other fields you usually get shot by the growers.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (W/lyH)

132 What's left of my hair definitely not even warm, much less afire, but will note that the obvious missing piece - a key one - in the otherwise nice broad-front approach to the mass illegal migration catastrophe is the absence of demonstrative (or any) action against employers.

DHS/Homan have a strategery, the BBB gives them the ability to pursue it much more vigorously (10K new hires coming for the purpose). The visible elements all make sense, and of course are obvious: clean up the massive criminal alien problem, change the pool temperature to create incentives to self-deport/provide assistance to do so.

But enforcing the law against employers will probably be the most important piece of the operation, doing more to "turn off the magnet" than anything else. The clock is ticking, and I am wondering just how much time Miller/Homan/et al think they have. Stupid comments by Trump on the matter are not encouraging.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (1m82a)

133 85 72 Looking at the videos, I don't understand why the "protesters" aren't being arrested for their obvious crimes. I want them to be treated the same way that Trump supporters would be treated if they acted the same way. One Standard Applied Equally to Everybody.
Posted by: Nigh the End at July 11, 2025 12:20 PM (qUkBO)

They were initially out numbered...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:22 PM (VE6XX)

In open rural areas the good guys need enough officers, vehicles, and copters to do a Cannae. (ref. Hannibal Barca, 216 BC.) An envelopment. The more thugs, the more assets are needed to bag all or most. Once the thugs are surrounded with a strong-enough cordon to prevent breakouts, the bulk of arrests can begin.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:32 PM (aBgBM)

134 Kids working as slaves so left wingers can drug themselves is about a democrat as you can get.

Go ask your local "smash capitalism" nepot baby about her iPhone and whether she supports megacorps that use slave labor and whatever answer you get will just be...stunning.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:32 PM (t0Rmr)

135 That used to be the case in Northern California. Probably still is!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (L5An7)

In the late 90's and early '00s marijuana was the second largest cash crop in Oregon, at least according to the LEOs.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:33 PM (W/lyH)

136
Posted by: Mister Ghost

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Wow, poor guy dying with Alzheimer's at 58.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:33 PM (UmB+t)

137 I do wish the Government would start arresting politicians and journalists.

They've moved into a state of insanity and they are fostering violence.

Arrest them. Period.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 11, 2025 12:33 PM (9g4LY)

138 n a unique farewell, Darrell "Plant" Thomas, a beloved car wash owner from East Detroit, made a lasting impact on his community by having his life savings dropped from a helicopter...

The helicopter showered mourners and bystanders with $5,000 in cash...

Note to self: do NOT go into the car was business.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 11, 2025 12:33 PM (/y8xj)

139 Looking at the videos, I don't understand why the "protesters" aren't being arrested for their obvious crimes

They are protected by the local leftwing authorities.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:33 PM (t0Rmr)

140 128 Leftists want the American Civil War II
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

Oddly, so do I.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (9g4LY)

141 Leftists want the American Civil War II

For starters, they desperately want a martyr, which is why they are ratcheting up the violence.

They want one of their people killed.

If they can make a martyr out of George Floyd, they can make a martyr out of anybody.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (xTIDn)

142 So we now have a mix of foreign and domestic people shooting at American law enforcement to stop them from enforcing American law, and half the country is like "eh, well, you know... the anger is justified."

Not a great development, I'd say.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (uCjyK)

143 Can we please stop using the term "antifa" and start calling these awful people what they really are?

DEMOCRAT SHOCK TROOPS

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (tYXcB)

144
If they can make a martyr out of George Floyd, they can make a martyr out of anybody.

They failed with the pedo and wife beater in Kenosha...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (t0Rmr)

145 For starters, they desperately want a martyr, which is why they are ratcheting up the violence.

They want one of their people killed.

If they can make a martyr out of George Floyd, they can make a martyr out of anybody.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (xTIDn)

Truth but those days are over. It's a different political environment

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (9g4LY)

146 My congress Pice of Shit, Salud Carbunckle, barged in like my democrat senator Piece of Shit to protect the criminal illegal invaders. Calimed he had a right to interfere but I do not see congress in the chain of command of the executive branch. Does anybody see where congress POSs are in the chain of command?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (17s+e)

147 So we now have a mix of foreign and domestic people shooting at American law enforcement to stop them from enforcing American law, and half the country is like "eh, well, you know... the anger is justified."

The traditional term for this is "insurrection"

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (t0Rmr)

148 In open rural areas the good guys need enough officers, vehicles, and copters to do a Cannae. (ref. Hannibal Barca, 216 BC.) An envelopment. The more thugs, the more assets are needed to bag all or most. Once the thugs are surrounded with a strong-enough cordon to prevent breakouts, the bulk of arrests can begin.
Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:32 PM (aBgBM)

No one ever mentions Lake Tresimene. Cannae gets all the headlines. That double envelopment stuff is pretty sexy apparently. Ambushes are so boring…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (OW907)

149 Me thinks some people need to be visited by tier 1 operators.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 12:07 PM (snZF9)

I thought we weren't discussing the Epstein clients any more.

Posted by: Methos at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (zLwRl)

150
They were initially out numbered...

Posted by: It's me donna

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They ought to be learning how to do this by now. Have a protocol for immediately dispatching pink-haired protestors who block vehicles and throw smoke bombs.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (UmB+t)

151 Is he still hanging five?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (bvNHo)

152 My how Camarillo has change since I left. I still have friends there. They aren't happy with the changes either.

Posted by: Darth Randall at July 11, 2025 12:36 PM (JBDl5)

153 When oh when will this right wing violence end?

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 12:36 PM (Qr870)

154 >>Hey, wasn't strawberry picking fun? Now...what the hell are we going to do with 9 lbs. of strawberries?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 12:29 PM

We made jam. It lasted until the next time strawberries were available.

Posted by: huerfano at July 11, 2025 12:36 PM (n2swS)

155 Trump hates CA and is probably trying to devastate our economy.

So it's Trump's fault, and not the $12 billion budget deficit?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 11, 2025 12:36 PM (M0V4/)

156 Yes he certainly "appears to fire" but maybe it was just a water pistol...

Posted by: steevy at July 11, 2025 12:36 PM (YwEeS)

157 Tony Katz (radio host) just said there is a rumor that Dan Bongino has quit.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 11, 2025 12:37 PM (63Dwl)

158 Trump hates CA and is probably trying to devastate our economy.

Lefties tell me constantly that the US needs CA's economy to keep itself afloat.

Apparently that comes down to illegal aliens growing drugs so...I guess we are all doomed.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:37 PM (t0Rmr)

159 it is fair to say stumbling in the woods is always dangerous
Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM (YJS35)
***

True enough but usually you ca pick yourself up and say a couple of bad words and carry on. In the other fields you usually get shot by the growers.
Posted by: Diogenes

we have a guy down the way that is effin ancient, boomer of some sort or something, and he was going to do the appalachain trail but he had to decide not to because he was stumbling over things.

It was very disappointing but he got busy and started doing walks around town that were easier but interesting.

Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 12:38 PM (8eqE3)

160 But enforcing the law against employers will probably be the most important piece of the operation, doing more to "turn off the magnet" than anything else. The clock is ticking, and I am wondering just how much time Miller/Homan/et al think they have. Stupid comments by Trump on the matter are not encouraging.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (1m82a)

Agreed. It's infuriating that the obvious strategy to get rid of immigrants wasn't the first thing done.

Kick them off welfare, and start throwing anyone who hires illegals in prison.

I think most of the illegals would self deport real quickly.

That should have been combined with a huge crackdown on visa fraud to get rid of the hundreds of thousands or millions of people here on bullshit visas. (ie: here on a work visa, but still working. Or here on H1B visa but clearly there are Americans qualified for the same job, etc.)

Combine that with ICE deporting the criminals, and we'd really be rocking and rolling. Unfortunately, the "elite" like having the illegals here, so Trump would have lost a lot of donors and support if he started throwing some CEO's in jail (I'm looking at you, Tyson Chicken)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:38 PM (uCjyK)

161 Actually Crockashit probably does consider these random one-off ICE killers a bit too conservative and right wing for her tastes.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 12:38 PM (Qr870)

162 here on a student visa, but still working*

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:38 PM (uCjyK)

163 140 128 Leftists want the American Civil War II
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

Oddly, so do I.
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Yeah, me too. Sometimes you need rivers of blood to settle disputes.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 12:39 PM (W3T6M)

164 Some of the videos look more like scenes from a foreign country than the USA so waving foreign flags and using them as weapons against law enforcement seems appropriate.

Posted by: old chick at July 11, 2025 12:39 PM (F3Dlr)

165 All the pot coming out of those mass grow operations is shit tier weed. Mass chemicals and pesticides used to grow it.
Never buy from a grower who doesn't smoke his own shit.

Posted by: Reforger at July 11, 2025 12:39 PM (SJnNf)

166 Me thinks some people need to be visited by tier 1 operators.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 12:07 PM (snZF9)

ICE needs a team of snipers armed with Barrett .50's. Station them in vantage points a half-mile away, and tell them to shoot all the pink-hairs, and green-hairs, and blue-hairs they see. And anyone making an aggressive move against ICE agents.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 12:40 PM (C/ApQ)

167 The George Floyd Pez Dispenser. Pez or fentanyl, take your pick. Don't leave the thing open too long or it can't breathe.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 12:40 PM (gm9Sb)

168 And of course employer targeting is a lot safer, less politically exploitable by the idiots, and has a huge multiplier effect. It was encouraging, I guess, to see so many social media comments on this incident along the lines of "and how about the employers?".

BTW ag has an uncapped temporary visa program - always has - for seasonal labor, H-2As. And further BTW, this program is fairly rife with abuses (of the labor).

Everyone with any sense knows about the disaster that is the H-1B program (well, not Elon). The other visa programs aren't much better. Any real fix of the mass illegal migration catastrophe will involve - finally - real enforcement in *legal* programs.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (1m82a)

169 163 140 128 Leftists want the American Civil War II
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

I think they're gonna have to learn how to shoot a gun.. The "incident" in Texas last week were they arrested 10, they shot over 30 rounds and hit nothing except grazing one officer.... 30 rounds...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (VE6XX)

170 Illegals are here to get $$$.

Roughly 10% work and 90% are on welfare.

So first priority should be to get them off government aid.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)

171 Ketanji Brown Jackson's legal philosophy is grounded in "excuse me, there is a black woman speaking."

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (NXz8h)

172 The chutzpah of California politicians criticizing an ICE raid on a federally illegal MaryJane grow site.

And sure contradicts the "oh MaryJane is so valuable we will rake in tons of money taxing it" when they need to resort to cheap illegal labor to grow and harvest it to make it worthwhile.

I don't *think* Colorado has gone so far as having state grow facilities; but I'm sure they are also finding that the MaryJane economic boon is not nearly as big as they imagined it would be.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (bP/i4)

173 I'll be honest, I barely make it to her chin when I'm looking at her.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

What I'd pay to experience that feeling just once...

Posted by: Jay Leno at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (yUIA1)

174 Immigrants in Every Pot Field.

Posted by: AOC 2028 at July 11, 2025 12:42 PM (Z+MHA)

175 143 Can we please stop using the term "antifa" and start calling these awful people what they really are?

DEMOCRAT SHOCK TROOPS
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (tYXcB)

I like the name "antifa". They named themselves after the street thugs in Europe during the 1930's and 1940's that helped give rise to the massive political violence that ended up in political parties across Europe (including the Nazis) including street thugs in the official party structure, which continued the cycle of escalation until we got to WWII.

They knew what they were doing with that name and with their tactics. They're trying to foment a violent political revolution.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:42 PM (uCjyK)

176 Does anyone need a refill?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:42 PM (bvNHo)

177 170 Illegals are here to get $$$.

Roughly 10% work and 90% are on welfare.

So first priority should be to get them off government aid.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)

IIRC I heard EXACTLY that on the radio yesterday. That is, that illegals are getting kicked off government programs like welfare.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:42 PM (vm8sq)

178 Hakeem Jefferies is arguing that it is Islamic culture to cheat and lie

Yes it is Hakeem. Now please explain why God needs liars and cheaters on his side.

Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 11, 2025 12:42 PM (Da7Vv)

179 Fun Fact: The state of Kalfornia was supposed to get huge tax revenues from the Pot Industry. BUT the state of Kalifornia put so many fees, regulations, and taxes on the Pot Industry that they got very little to no tax revenue.

Kalifornia's solution to that was to SUBSIDIZE THE POT INDUSTRY to get around the taxes and fees so the state could get more money. This is democrat logic. Spend more taxpayer money to get less tax receipts. I guess it is a "make it up in volume" thing.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (17s+e)

180 Afternoon Ace. My Congress critter Pat Ryan , has kind of avoided the illegal issue beyond burping about due process. He's sticking to yelling at Trump about restoring funds for "homeless vets".

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (JtH6i)

181 The weed farm they raided in Camarillo was an illegal grow, Camarillo doesn't allow commercial grows, you can only grow whatever is legal for personal use at home.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (CueAq)

182 177 IIRC I heard EXACTLY that on the radio yesterday. That is, that illegals are getting kicked off government programs like welfare.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:42 PM (vm8sq)

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The Trump admin announced that they'd ended $40 billion in programs tailored for illegals, including things like free tuition to trade schools.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)

183 145 For starters, they desperately want a martyr, which is why they are ratcheting up the violence.

They want one of their people killed.

If they can make a martyr out of George Floyd, they can make a martyr out of anybody.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (xTIDn)

Truth but those days are over. It's a different political environment

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (9g4LY)

The objective of getting martyrs at this point is not to win over a lot of new dupes. It is to keep the base riled-up and blindly supporting Democrats. The Democrats need donations to keep coming in.

The Media will dutifully spread the DNC narrative about the murder of innocents forever. Not that Fapper and Muir will need much direction; besides helping Democrat purposes with the propaganda, the forever Media operations plan is: If it bleeds, it leads.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (aBgBM)

184 170 Illegals are here to get $$$.

Roughly 10% work and 90% are on welfare.

So first priority should be to get them off government aid.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)

I think most of them do both. Work illegally and also illegally collect welfare. If not directly, then through their US citizen kids. Because you know, on paper, they have no income.

At least the illegals I've known personally seem to do both.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (uCjyK)

185 Muslim is not a race ... and I would suggest that nobody is "afraid" of Omar (i.e. Islamaphobic = irrational fear of Islam) ...
Fine's post was fine with me ... neither Islamaphobic nor racist ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (DBAaD)

186 I don't know which of the rotating ads I find more disturbing. The old woman locked in the bathroom in her wheel chair, or that annoying flashy false teeth expo.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (dIske)

187 Run an A-10 brrrrrt brrrrrt thru the crowd.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 12:11 PM (8v2yu)

Fly crop dusters over the fields, and douse them with a huge dose of Paraquat. (Roundup is too safe.)

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (C/ApQ)

188 I think they're gonna have to learn how to shoot a gun.. The "incident" in Texas last week were they arrested 10, they shot over 30 rounds and hit nothing except grazing one officer.... 30 rounds...
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And they weren't youts.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (W3T6M)

189 I don't think even Chong smokes that much.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (bvNHo)

190 Leftists want the American Civil War II
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

They want Cambodia II.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (Qr870)

191 190 Leftists want the American Civil War II
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

They want Cambodia II.
Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (Qr870)

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"Yeah!"
-the university staff, all who wear glasses

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (GBKbO)

192 not everybody is thinking through the undocumented thing, if they are undocumented and nobody knows they are here, for some enterprising guys with some panel vans and some hutzpah, you could get some free works.

Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (4RPk7)

193 148 In open rural areas the good guys need enough officers, vehicles, and copters to do a Cannae. (ref. Hannibal Barca, 216 BC.) An envelopment. The more thugs, the more assets are needed to bag all or most. Once the thugs are surrounded with a strong-enough cordon to prevent breakouts, the bulk of arrests can begin.
Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:32 PM (aBgBM)

No one ever mentions Lake Tresimene. Cannae gets all the headlines. That double envelopment stuff is pretty sexy apparently. Ambushes are so boring…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 12:35 PM (OW907)

Yup!

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (aBgBM)

194 140 128 Leftists want the American Civil War II
Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM (+qU29)

Oddly, so do I.
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Yeah, me too. Sometimes you need rivers of blood to settle disputes.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 12:39 PM (W3T6M)
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And soon because we are not getting any younger.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (17s+e)

195 I'll be honest, I barely make it to her chin when I'm looking at her.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

That's why it pays to have 20 of them.

Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (Qr870)

196 mmmmshit pebbles in diahrea sauce
so good

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (3sSZK)

197 Hey Hakeem,
Bring your more is more concept to my little town. You get more. Plenty more. We are givers that way.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (W/lyH)

198 187 Agent Orange works pretty good and got me a set of new teeth.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (gm9Sb)

199 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (GBKbO)

No one ever accused them of being smart

Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 11, 2025 12:45 PM (Qr870)

200 Everyone with any sense knows about the disaster that is the H-1B program (well, not Elon). The other visa programs aren't much better. Any real fix of the mass illegal migration catastrophe will involve - finally - real enforcement in *legal* programs.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (1m82a)

100%. The way the visa's are supposed to work are mostly unobjectionable (if we think we need legal immigrants, which I'm very much not convinced of), but the way they are implemented is infuriating.

Don't give anyone a visa until you actually verify the information on their application is true, for starters.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:46 PM (uCjyK)

201 I think they're gonna have to learn how to shoot a gun.. The "incident" in Texas last week were they arrested 10, they shot over 30 rounds and hit nothing except grazing one officer.... 30 rounds...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (VE6XX)

But, truth be told, cops aren’t much better.

What a weird bunch they are. I have known some cops to be the biggest gun nuts around (said with all affection),,but others at the same time are of the union mentality (“I’ll go train when they pay me”

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:46 PM (vm8sq)

202 Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (17s+e)

_______________________________

There was a local municipality police department that was stopping the trucks transporting the pot through their jurisdiction, and then applying asset seizure for a while. Then the Feds would step in and take ownership requiring the pot producer to file suit to have their assets returned.

No good guys in that scenario, but entertaining none the less.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 12:46 PM (dIske)

203 They want Cambodia II.
Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (Qr870)

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"Yeah!"
-the university staff, all who wear glasses
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM (GBKbO)

Nice call back.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2025 12:46 PM (bss/y)

204 CaliGirl that's what I'd heard too (about Camarillo and commercial grows).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:47 PM (1m82a)

205 I demand Pam Bondi detailing all work on all ongoing investigations near and dear to my heart on a daily basis from a press room in the DOJ headquarters building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Well, she works for you so your employer demands should be met or immediate dismissal should follow.

In all seriously, ops occur on the right as well as the left and I am bemused by collaborative media coverage in the conservative media as well as MSM.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)

206
in that video from Camarillo what was the rationale for poking at the sides of those military vehicles with a Mexican flag. Did the freak with multi-colored hair actually think that would stop the vehicles???

Posted by: LinusVanPelt

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Well, they slowed 'em down and kept LE in a standoff for -- hours? Not bad for pink-haired freaks vs military vehicles.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:47 PM (UmB+t)

207 I do NOT want a civil war. It would be awful…. Didn’t 1861-65 demonstrate sufficiently that this country goes nuts and lots of people die when we decide to fight each other.

Much better is defeat them politically… Trump II followed by 8 years of Vance

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 12:48 PM (P/Wjn)

208 205 Well, she works for you so your employer demands should be met or immediate dismissal should follow.

In all seriously, ops occur on the right as well as the left and I am bemused by collaborative media coverage in the conservative media as well as MSM.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)

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I have no idea what ongoing investigations are happening in the DOJ.

It's somewhere between absolutely nothing and #twoweeks, I suspect.

I just know getting mad about it won't be good for my health. Instead, I watch a rubber union guy played by Raul Julia get murdered.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:48 PM (GBKbO)

209 They won't even pay a living wage to pick illegal weed.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:48 PM (bvNHo)

210 Anyone who STILL doesn't understand that the evil left is waging war on Christianity, true Americans, and those of Northern European lineage are frankly too stupid to not deserve what is coming.

Posted by: Pete at July 11, 2025 12:48 PM (9uoO8)

211 Western Lensman
@WesternLensman

Sunny Hostin brushes off leftwing violent attacks on federal agents — says a “RECKONING” is coming:

“If you mask yourself because you don't want to be seen, there will be a reckoning for some of the actions law enforcement have done."

They want more of this.

https://tinyurl.com/ewjsftjz

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 12:49 PM (NpAcC)

212 It amuses me that the left is still pushes the "Trump promised amnesty to farm workers" line in a post...about ICE going after farm workers yesterday.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:49 PM (GBKbO)

213 And all the while, the Dems continue to beat the drums for "gun control". When the commies lose at the ballot box, they resort to violence. And they want a 100% monopoly over the right to commit violence against their political opponents.

Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 12:49 PM (rj6Yv)

214 california has serious laws about child labor, and children working in fields. I wonder how old the kids were.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 12:49 PM (D7oie)

215 Las Cruces, NM is overrun with weed shops that operate under New Mexico weed legalization laws. The plot twist here is there are Border Patrol checkpoints on all roads heading north. This causes some unexpected excitement for people who don't realize that these checkpoints are subject to Federal law. As for the dealers that are moving product and cash around they tend to lose cars, money, and product on a regular basis.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 12:49 PM (NXz8h)

216 The battle, a key event in the Second Punic War, saw Hannibal's Carthaginian forces decisively defeat the Roman army led by Gaius Flaminius.
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Note to self, never soldier under a commander named Gaius Flaminius.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 12:50 PM (W3T6M)

217 216 The battle, a key event in the Second Punic War, saw Hannibal's Carthaginian forces decisively defeat the Roman army led by Gaius Flaminius.
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Note to self, never soldier under a commander named Gaius Flaminius.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 12:50 PM (W3T6M)

That's just good advice

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:50 PM (xcxpd)

218 (I'm looking at you, Tyson Chicken)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:38 PM (uCjyK)

I used to buy Tyson chicken until they announced they are hiring illegals. What’s insane is if you go to Amarillo you will see billboards advertising the benefits of working for Tyson.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:51 PM (vm8sq)

219
Leftists want the American Civil War II

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 12:31 PM

They want Cambodia II.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 12:44 PM

they'll get Bosnia II

Posted by: AltonJackson at July 11, 2025 12:51 PM (tljrc)

220 Trade our elite for some freedom loving
Humans.
I bet many would love going at first and then the reality sets in.
Good part is they can't ever return.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 11, 2025 12:51 PM (T0Rsl)

221 Well, I'm glad we got that straight.

Pam Bondi Confirms Greedo Shot First

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)

222 Read the a stupid story from a leftwing site.

Girl has a guy ask her out. Agrees to go out on a date with him. Has sex with him that night. As they are laying in bed later guy mentions he got his online business going because of advice from Andrew Tate. Our girl boss protagonist hates Tate and gets in an argument with the guy over it. She says Tate is a rapist he says Tate was framed.

Now, ignore who is right about Tate - this is another one of those leftist women "why does every guy I find attractive have politics I hate?!?" stories.

Also...maybe try and learn about someone before having sex with them?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:51 PM (t0Rmr)

223 217 Note to self, never soldier under a commander named Gaius Flaminius.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 12:50 PM (W3T6M)

That's just good advice
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:50 PM (xcxpd)

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Walking Junior through a few paragraphs about Caesar this morning, he stumbled a bit on the question I posed to him, "Who was Caesar's main enemy in the Civil War?"

I mostly just found it funny hearing him try to say Latin names, and Pompey wasn't a hard one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:52 PM (GBKbO)

224 Why is this violence allowed to continue? Why aren't the Marines stomping the attackers' guts out?

Optics?

I'm having 2020 redux.

Posted by: Kareem of Wheat at July 11, 2025 12:52 PM (7iuQ/)

225 I do NOT want a civil war. It would be awful…. Didn’t 1861-65 demonstrate sufficiently that this country goes nuts and lots of people die when we decide to fight each other.

Much better is defeat them politically… Trump II followed by 8 years of Vance

Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Me and most as well but look at the facts on the ground. We did beat them politically and this is their response. There is not reasoning with the unreasonable. IMHO it is going to take some blood to water the tree of liberty.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 11, 2025 12:52 PM (17s+e)

226 TJM, just the fact Trump said what he said is pretty astounding, and chilling. You'd think that the reaction, which I believe was basically silence from the rally crowd (in an ag state no less), would be the first data point for him. But the unserious side of me is dying to know what Homan and Miller and several at DHS said/thought when they heard that.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:52 PM (1m82a)

227 31 17 Hakeem is a true idiot. The only skill he has is making nonsense words come out of his mouth whenever he's asked a question

you laugh, but that skill got kamala the vice-presidency
Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (v3pYe)

Nope, I got there from making things come in[/] my mouth and asking no questions. *cackle*

Posted by: Kamalala! at July 11, 2025 12:52 PM (8hxDK)

228 Looks like Bongino and Patel wanted the non existent files to be released but Bondi doesn't.. Supposedly...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:52 PM (VE6XX)

229 And all the while, the Dems continue to beat the drums for "gun control". When the commies lose at the ballot box, they resort to violence. And they want a 100% monopoly over the right to commit violence against their political opponents.
Posted by: mrp at July 11, 2025 12:49 PM (rj6Yv)

To be fair, it is the end goal of the Westfalian system of nation-states.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 12:53 PM (D7oie)

230 Don't give anyone a visa until you actually verify the information on their application is true, for starters.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:46 PM (uCjyK)

And if tech is saying that they need tens of thousands of visas every year... start asking why.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:53 PM (ExV1e)

231 “If you mask yourself because you don't want to be seen, there will be a reckoning for some of the actions law enforcement have done."

I remember when the left/FNM argued we needed to lock people up for saying they would shoot it out before letting the government clot shot them or their kids . I guess that's a different sort of reckoning?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:53 PM (t0Rmr)

232 oops *cackle*

Posted by: Kamalala! at July 11, 2025 12:53 PM (8hxDK)

233 Me thinks some people need to be visited by tier 1 operators

Smooth Operator > Tier 1 operators

Posted by: Sade at July 11, 2025 12:53 PM (D0HYP)

234 226 TJM, just the fact Trump said what he said is pretty astounding, and chilling. You'd think that the reaction, which I believe was basically silence from the rally crowd (in an ag state no less), would be the first data point for him. But the unserious side of me is dying to know what Homan and Miller and several at DHS said/thought when they heard that.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:52 PM (1m82a)

========

Trump spouts off stuff about immigration. Homan and Miller talk him out of it.

It's one of the main issues where, because of his staff, people can flatly ignore anything he says.

Until he fires Stephen Miller, immigration enforcement is going to be hardcore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:53 PM (GBKbO)

235 Salma Hayek nearly 30 years vs Salma Hayek today.

Great googly moogly.

https://tinyurl.com/yy72rfc7

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 12:54 PM (viF8m)

236 Well, she works for you so your employer demands should be met or immediate dismissal should follow.

In all seriously, ops occur on the right as well as the left and I am bemused by collaborative media coverage in the conservative media as well as MSM.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)

Stop and take a breath.

Is there, or is there not, much more action going on in terms of enforcement than there was a year ago?

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:54 PM (vm8sq)

237 I think they're gonna have to learn how to shoot a gun.. The "incident" in Texas last week were they arrested 10, they shot over 30 rounds and hit nothing except grazing one officer.... 30 rounds...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 12:41 PM (VE6XX)

They are learning. They will get better. The organizers are still using the front line idiots as their way of testing ICE and LEOs and to determine what tactics work best. They are watching and adapting.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 11, 2025 12:54 PM (W/lyH)

238 Any of these protestors have that Camarillo brillo flaming out along their heads?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 12:54 PM (j/vBG)

239 I have no idea what ongoing investigations are happening in the DOJ.

It's somewhere between absolutely nothing and #twoweeks, I suspect.

I just know getting mad about it won't be good for my health. Instead, I watch a rubber union guy played by Raul Julia get murdered.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Anger and rage drive clicks but I think there is something more to it. I saw a lot of this in the Reagan years--much less in the GWB and GHWB years. Part of it is that it is easy to slip some money to 'influencers' with no one the wiser. Ditto on oligarchic ownership of media on the right or the conglomeration of Salem Communications that relies on corporate ads and selling O/F equivalent delux memberships.

Gotta go now.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:55 PM (ctrM5)

240 I don't know what's more gross - how vile these people are about calling for the murders of agents and their families or how smug they get when they grandstand about muh normzz

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 12:55 PM (Qr870)

241
"why does every guy I find attractive have politics I hate?!?"

________

Because all the guys whose politics you like are gay or chopped their tackle off.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 12:55 PM (HZi96)

242 Read the a stupid story from a leftwing site.

Girl has a guy ask her out. Agrees to go out on a date with him. Has sex with him that night. As they are laying in bed later guy mentions he got his online business going because of advice from Andrew Tate. Our girl boss protagonist hates Tate and gets in an argument with the guy over it. She says Tate is a rapist he says Tate was framed.

Now, ignore who is right about Tate - this is another one of those leftist women "why does every guy I find attractive have politics I hate?!?" stories.

Also...maybe try and learn about someone before having sex with them?!?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:51 PM (t0Rmr)
_______

Modern hookup culture means you might not even know the girl's name, or vice versa. I do suspect, though, that this entire story is made-up bullshit. Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business? Sounds sus.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (iFTx/)

243 I think they're gonna have to learn how to shoot a gun.. The "incident" in Texas last week were they arrested 10, they shot over 30 rounds and hit nothing except grazing one officer.... 30 rounds...

And if 10 conservatives did this under Biden we would already have hundreds in jail with more being arrested for years...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (t0Rmr)

244 63 Fortunately, most of our enemies are not followers of Weasel Doctrine, and their shit is most wobbly.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 12:19 PM

We do not WANT them to be followers of the Weasel Doctrine practicing their fundamentals. If they were good many LEO would be hurt or killed.
Granted it could happen just the same they firing like an idiot. But lets not take a chance.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (qoLdL)

245 > Fly crop dusters over the fields, and douse them with a huge dose of Paraquat. (Roundup is too safe.)

We did that in the mid 70s in Mexico. Marijuana smokers in the Southwest were smoking paraquat dosed marijuana because of it.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (lIio7)

246 Hey, wasn't strawberry picking fun? Now...what the hell are we going to do with 9 lbs. of strawberries?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 12:29 PM (j/vBG)

Jam. Lots and lots of jam. Honestly that is just 1 - 1/2 qallons there!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (D7oie)

247 And if tech is saying that they need tens of thousands of visas every year... start asking why.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:53 PM (ExV1e)

I agree. Our government and academia have been pushing STEM for over a decade because big tech said there was a perpetual shortage of people with technical knowledge in the US.

Oddly, despite pushing STEM so hard, big tech doesn't seem to be vacuuming up those people. Instead they continue to hire from India and China.

Maybe big tech was lying? And committing H1B visa fraud?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

248 221 Well, I'm glad we got that straight.

Pam Bondi Confirms Greedo Shot First

From the Bee.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 12:51 PM (L/fGl)

From the moment Greedo pulled the gun on Han Solo, Greedo was fair game.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (vm8sq)

249 "Until he fires Stephen Miller, immigration enforcement is going to be hardcore."

Employer enforcement. As I said above, they may be working to a plan, and it's coming. But six months in, given the friction from the other components, it's not unreasonable to ask WTF.

Not a case of never being satisfied no matter what's done. Just wondering why an essential piece - equal to or greater than all the others in terms of final result, which is all that matters - is missing.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (1m82a)

250 Not sure how much cannabis is to blame but large sections of retail areas in many cities in Colorado now have only pot shops, tattoo parlors, and some similar businesses.

Shopping used to be a bit of an entertainment factor as well as buying what was needed, I grew up in the mall era. I don't think Amazon, door dash, etc and then FB for us old fogies and other SM is as healthy for society as shopping with friends and eating out etc. But Fauci and associates gave the trend a huge boost with the covid lockdowns. Evil bastids.

Posted by: PaleRider at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (bP/i4)

251 215 Las Cruces, NM is overrun with weed shops that operate under New Mexico weed legalization laws. The plot twist here is there are Border Patrol checkpoints on all roads heading north. This causes some unexpected excitement for people who don't realize that these checkpoints are subject to Federal law. As for the dealers that are moving product and cash around they tend to lose cars, money, and product on a regular basis.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 12:49 PM (NXz8h)

Also, there is a Border Patrol checkpoint on eastbound I-10 about 90? miles east of El Paso. Mostly to catch illegals, but I feel sure there are drug dogs and electronic sniffers there. Everyone in the area and those who ever passed it on west- and east-bound I-10 knows it is there. Often the officers will simply wave a stream of cars through. Randomizing the stop and search periods. Newbies and smugglers who decide to roll the dice are at risk. It is cleverly located on the east side of a north-south ridge. It is not visible until you are within a mile or so.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (aBgBM)

252 I agree. Our government and academia have been pushing STEM for over a decade because big tech said there was a perpetual shortage of people with technical knowledge in the US.

Oddly, despite pushing STEM so hard, big tech doesn't seem to be vacuuming up those people. Instead they continue to hire from India and China.

Maybe big tech was lying? And committing H1B visa fraud?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (uCjyK)

Only girls, because we need girls in STEM. So I am repeatedly told.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 12:58 PM (vm8sq)

253 My grandparents (immigrants) lived on a farm with their 10 children. To supplement their income, they did migrant work, and since I spent summers with them, I also did migrant work. Strawberries and pickles were r the worst!

Posted by: Chillin the mist at July 11, 2025 12:58 PM (Ofe5D)

254 Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business?

Not only that, but toddlers have been known to say things that show them as wise beyond their years.

I think the girl in the story just regrets a random hookup so she wanted to make the guy out to be a villain.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 12:58 PM (lXoJ5)

255 Salma Hayek nearly 30 years vs Salma Hayek today.

Great googly moogly.

https://tinyurl.com/yy72rfc7
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 12:54 PM (viF8m)
_________

Lotsa filters on that "today" pic. But she still does look good. Whether its genes or surgeries or some combo, I don't know.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 12:58 PM (iFTx/)

256 > Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business? Sounds sus.

Maybe it's a tactic to get rid of the girl after he got what he wanted.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (lIio7)

257 Modern hookup culture means you might not even know the girl's name, or vice versa.

I saw an interview a few years ago with a guy that had seven kids with seven different baby mommas. The guy was asked don't you have to pay child support? His answer was he never gave them his real name, took them to his place, or let them know where he works.

He further argued he wasn't the bad guy here, he offered to pay for an abortion, and in these seven cases the women didn't want one so why should he pay child support?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (t0Rmr)

258 214 california has serious laws about child labor, and children working in fields. I wonder how old the kids were.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025

Apparently this does not apply to trafficked brown children.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (pZEOD)

259 Modern hookup culture means you might not even know the girl's name, or vice versa. I do suspect, though, that this entire story is made-up bullshit. Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business? Sounds sus.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (iFTx/)

Hot take: he brought up Tate because he wanted her to leave.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (B9Prs)

260 Okay, when is Trump actually going to do something about this? We've had two serious instances of federal agents being shot at by left-wing terrorists now, and it's been crickets from DC. That's on top of the Tesla riots and the LA riots, which received only minimal responses.

Why aren't the organizers and funders being arrested? Why aren't their assets being seized? Is that just "not who we are?"
Posted by: Doomberg

All of that takes time.

You will never see this again: "Leon Frank Czolgosz assassinated United States president William McKinley on September 6, 1901, in Buffalo, New York. McKinley died on September 14 after his wound became infected. Caught in the act, Czolgosz was tried, convicted, and executed by the State of New York seven weeks later on October 29, 1901."-wiki

Posted by: Chuck C at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (D0HYP)

261 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

NEW: Cal State L.A. professors will be able to move their classes online amid student concerns over immigration raids.

You can’t make this up!

In a letter to faculty, the university provost said that after hearing from students “scared to take public transit and fearful of driving to campus,” they will allow professors to provide excused absences and alternative makeup work arrangements for concerned students.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9thdku

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (NpAcC)

262 When we were in Yuma a few years ago, we saw busloads of brown looking people being brought to the fields to work every day and loaded up in the evening to go back to wherever. Are these brown looking people illegals and the feds are looking the other way. There are lots of crops to pick in Yuma. Even then BP was everywhere.

Posted by: Megthered at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (GOJbT)

263 The Cantina should have had security cameras.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (bvNHo)

264 Modern hookup culture means you might not even know the girl's name, or vice versa. I do suspect, though, that this entire story is made-up bullshit. Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business? Sounds sus.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (iFTx/)

Considering the fact that she could decide, after the fact, that she'd been raped because he likes something about Andrew Tate, I suspect that someone even remotely into Tate would know that and keep his mouth shut until after he bounced.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (ExV1e)

265 Also...maybe try and learn about someone before having sex with them?!?
____

Kudos to the Tate bro who was able to stick his dick in crazy and have a good story to slip out of the situation.

Also, feminisim has sucked all the wisdom potential out of modern women.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 01:00 PM (Dv3i1)

266 Big Tech: There aren't enough Americans to fill these jobs...we need H1Bs

Also Big Tech: Yeah we just laid off tens of thousands of people because we don't need so many employees. Go AI!

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:00 PM (t0Rmr)

267 262 When we were in Yuma a few years ago, we saw busloads of brown looking people being brought to the fields to work every day and loaded up in the evening to go back to wherever. Are these brown looking people illegals and the feds are looking the other way. There are lots of crops to pick in Yuma. Even then BP was everywhere.
Posted by: Megthered at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (GOJbT)

Those are H2A workers.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 01:00 PM (CueAq)

268 Also, there is a Border Patrol checkpoint on eastbound I-10 about 90? miles east of El Paso. Mostly to catch illegals, but I feel sure there are drug dogs and electronic sniffers there. Everyone in the area and those who ever passed it on west- and east-bound I-10 knows it is there. Often the officers will simply wave a stream of cars through. Randomizing the stop and search periods. Newbies and smugglers who decide to roll the dice are at risk. It is cleverly located on the east side of a north-south ridge. It is not visible until you are within a mile or so.
Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (aBgBM)

Yeah, I was bemused by this. BP agent asked where I was coming from. Showed him my military ID. “El Paso. I don’t even have my passport with me.” Waved on through.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 01:00 PM (vm8sq)

269 also, just want to point out: even the government claims there are fewer than 250,000 thousand illegals working in agriculture (using a very expansive definition of "agriculture").

We have 20+ million illegals in this country. Agriculture is a tiny, tiny, sliver of that.

This is not 1932. Most farm work is not done by hand, we have amazing mechanization. And operating that machinery is a skilled job that should pay well.

This "we need illegals to pick out crops" talking point is nonsensical.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 01:01 PM (uCjyK)

270 Instead of paying her to leave, you just whip out a MAGA hat.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:01 PM (bvNHo)

271
In a letter to faculty, the university provost said that after hearing from students “scared to take public transit and fearful of driving to campus,” they will allow professors to provide excused absences and alternative makeup work arrangements for concerned students.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9thdku
Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (NpAcC)

Concerned illegals ? They should be...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 01:01 PM (VE6XX)

272 I agree. Our government and academia have been pushing STEM for over a decade because big tech said there was a perpetual shortage of people with technical knowledge in the US.

Oddly, despite pushing STEM so hard, big tech doesn't seem to be vacuuming up those people. Instead they continue to hire from India and China.

Maybe big tech was lying? And committing H1B visa fraud?
Posted by: Harry

there has been a mania to get women and minorities into those fields at the expense of men

daughter of some friend got into a good scho9ol by applying for stem the switched to another field, which was her strategy since she did not have grades to get into the other field but was a shoo in as a science related candidate.

Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 01:02 PM (aLqrS)

273 We have 20+ million illegals in this country. Agriculture is a tiny, tiny, sliver of that.

My rough estimate are 40M illegals, of who around 4M primarily get their earnings through work, and the rest primarily though welfare.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:02 PM (t0Rmr)

274 269 This is not 1932. Most farm work is not done by hand, we have amazing mechanization. And operating that machinery is a skilled job that should pay well.

This "we need illegals to pick out crops" talking point is nonsensical.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 01:01 PM (uCjyK)

=======

On the flip side to that is the anger at the administration for saying that they're prioritizing other illegals over farm workers (not cutting off enforcement as yesterdays' marijuana bust seems to indicate).

The illegals popping up food stalls in Boston aren't picking blueberries.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:02 PM (GBKbO)

275 Fine's post was fine with me ... neither Islamaphobic nor racist ...
Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (DBAaD)

Likewise. It was dead-nuts accurate.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 01:02 PM (oZ8xm)

276 Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business? Sounds sus.

Maybe it's a tactic to get rid of the girl after he got what he wanted.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (lIio7)
________

If a you want the girl to leave you do that nicely. You don't try to pick a fight so she leaves angry with an incentive to later lie about what happened -- especially if the guy really believes Tate from framed, because that's what Tate says happened to him. This dude would be extra careful.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:02 PM (iFTx/)

277 have i told you my shit pebbles are delcious recently?
cuse they are

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 01:03 PM (3sSZK)

278 Big Tech: There aren't enough Americans to fill these jobs...we need H1Bs

Also Big Tech: Yeah we just laid off tens of thousands of people because we don't need so many employees. Go AI!
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:00 PM (t0Rmr)

Except the same tech companies laying off people are saying that they need more visa people.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:03 PM (ExV1e)

279 The last time Democrats started a civil war over cheap labor we had to burn Atlanta to stop them.

Don't make us do that again.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 01:03 PM (viF8m)

280 CaliGirl I have read pretty disturbing stuff about abuse in the H-2A program. Wonder what your much more direct/real world impression is?

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 01:03 PM (1m82a)

281 259 Modern hookup culture means you might not even know the girl's name, or vice versa. I do suspect, though, that this entire story is made-up bullshit. Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business? Sounds sus.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (iFTx/)

Hot take: he brought up Tate because he wanted her to leave.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (B9Prs)

She wanted to bang him from the start because he was a Chad. She needed to keep her girl power cred, though.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 01:03 PM (j/vBG)

282 I have had Comcast iirc internet call center help from Canada with engineering degrees.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:04 PM (bvNHo)

283 She wanted to bang him from the start because he was a Chad. She needed to keep her girl power cred, though.

She also mentioned he was a former army guy, so I'm guessing buff and in shape.

Not that all former army guys are, but why would she mention it otherwise...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 01:04 PM (t0Rmr)

284 Well let's not be too hasty here.

Burning Atlanta might be an option we want left on the table.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 01:04 PM (1m82a)

285 Rest in Peace to Lee Elia, one of the all-time great Cubs managers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiVVbYK9HXw

I caught a couple games at Wrigley that year along with 5,000 unemployables, and they were starting to show some promise (the Cubs, not the unemployables).

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (qwx/I)

286 Modern hookup culture means you might not even know the girl's name, or vice versa. I do suspect, though, that this entire story is made-up bullshit. Does a guy laying in bed with a girl start talking about divisive public figures who gave advice to start a business? Sounds sus.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (iFTx/)

Considering the fact that she could decide, after the fact, that she'd been raped because he likes something about Andrew Tate, I suspect that someone even remotely into Tate would know that and keep his mouth shut until after he bounced.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 12:59 PM (ExV1e)
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Yup, see my comment above. The last thing a pro-Tate guy on a rando hookup would do is pick a fight with the girl over a hot-button, sex-charged issue that all but guarantees her leaving angry.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (iFTx/)

287 Burning Atlanta might be an option we want left on the table./i]

/Looks at American cities

Miss me yet?

Posted by: Pol Pot at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (t0Rmr)

288 Demolition Man will be live streamed?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (O7pnU)

289 Tech companies hire from India and China because they don't want to pay American citizen wages. Indians work cheap, almost criminally cheap. They end up very much like Indentured Servants for the corp. I've seen it first hand.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (xcxpd)

290 Don't burn all the abandoned industrial buildings in Atlanta full of bales of cardboard.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (bvNHo)

291 Concerned illegals ? They should be...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 01:01 PM (VE6XX)
********
Dems consider illegals a privileged class.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (NpAcC)

292 Epstein. Date rape drug could be used on a man.

Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 11, 2025 01:06 PM (T0Rsl)

293 If you're a student, you're presumably on a student visa.

If you somehow managed to finagle your affairs such that you *don't* have a student visa, and you're in college in the U.S., you're a fucking idiot and you deserve to be rounded up and kicked the fuck out.

The only reason to be a student here from abroad and not have your visa paperwork in order is because there's a very specific reason why you, specifically, aren't even allowed here and would not have been granted the visa in the first place.

GTFO.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 11, 2025 01:06 PM (BjH5D)

294 289 Tech companies hire from India and China because they don't want to pay American citizen wages. Indians work cheap, almost criminally cheap. They end up very much like Indentured Servants for the corp. I've seen it first hand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (xcxpd)

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They also tend to get what they paid for in terms of the quality of the work.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 01:06 PM (36PRH)

295 don't know which of the rotating ads I find more disturbing. The old woman locked in the bathroom in her wheel chair, or that annoying flashy false teeth expo.

Posted by: Orson at July 11, 2025 12:43 PM (dIske)

My least favorite ads are on TV for "smelly vaginas" and whole body deodorant sprays!

Posted by: Chillin the mist at July 11, 2025 01:06 PM (Ofe5D)

296 Tech companies hire from India and China because they don't want to pay American citizen wages. Indians work cheap, almost criminally cheap. They end up very much like Indentured Servants for the corp. I've seen it first hand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (xcxpd)

And as soon as possible, start popping out anchor babies while they're in that H1B.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:07 PM (ExV1e)

297 280 CaliGirl I have read pretty disturbing stuff about abuse in the H-2A program. Wonder what your much more direct/real world impression is?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 01:03 PM

I've never heard anything bad about the H2A program. I'm sure people cheat, there are crooks every where. The problems come when they try to put the workers in a neighborhood. One grower had death threats and his building burned down.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 01:07 PM (CueAq)

298 On the flip side to that is the anger at the administration for saying that they're prioritizing other illegals over farm workers (not cutting off enforcement as yesterdays' marijuana bust seems to indicate).

The illegals popping up food stalls in Boston aren't picking blueberries.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:02 PM (GBKbO)

As far as enforcement priorities go, I understand going after other targets first. But why announce that? I thought self-deporting was a big part of the plan here.

Let Big Ag figure out how to operate without illegal quasi-slave labor (I think they'll be fine, with minimal interruption.)

But the flip side of that is, there needs to be enforcement against employers for violating labor and immigration laws. And we need to crack down hard on anyone here illegally or on any visa getting any government assistance whatsoever. Enforce existing laws to a "T". I know a lot of illegals with US citizen kids will be able to stay on welfare under existing law, but we need to make it as unpleasant as possible for people to stay here illegally.

That's how you force the self deporting.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 01:07 PM (uCjyK)

299 Many years ago, Michael Walsh wrote that the Democrats are a criminal organization masquerading as a political party. I think that is now clearly indisputable.

Posted by: Paco at July 11, 2025 01:07 PM (mADJX)

300 During WW2, many POWs were used as farm labor in CONUS. I can see no problem with trustees in the penal system being used as such. Pay them a fair wage, deduct for needed security, deduct for fines and restitutions but leave enough after sentence to get a new start.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 11, 2025 01:07 PM (gm9Sb)

301 268 Also, there is a Border Patrol checkpoint on eastbound I-10 about 90? miles east of El Paso. Mostly to catch illegals, but I feel sure there are drug dogs and electronic sniffers there. Everyone in the area and those who ever passed it on west- and east-bound I-10 knows it is there. Often the officers will simply wave a stream of cars through. Randomizing the stop and search periods. Newbies and smugglers who decide to roll the dice are at risk. It is cleverly located on the east side of a north-south ridge. It is not visible until you are within a mile or so.
Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 12:57 PM (aBgBM)

Yeah, I was bemused by this. BP agent asked where I was coming from. Showed him my military ID. “El Paso. I don’t even have my passport with me.” Waved on through.

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 11, 2025 01:00 PM (vm8sq)

Last time I went through was 18 months ago. Mid-day, sunny. There were officers in each booth but no one was being stopped, for as far ahead and behind as I could see. The posted speed through the lane for each booth is 10? mph. The CBP officers are always eyeballing the people visible. The green light was on continuously when I went through.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 01:07 PM (aBgBM)

302 Alan Dershowitz: ‘I know For a Fact’ Epstein Files ‘Are Being Suppressed to Protect Individuals’–‘I Know the Names!’

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But enough about the Clintons.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (L/fGl)

303 Someone did the Game of Thrones theme on wa wa guitar on Alex Jones.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (bvNHo)

304 Me thinks some people need to be visited by tier 1 operators
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A few Marines with a good beer buzz should do it.

Posted by: Operator Error at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (NPWqQ)

305 They also tend to get what they paid for in terms of the quality of the work.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 01:06 PM (36PRH)

I've worked with hundreds of Indians. About 4% are worth a damn, technically.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (ExV1e)

306 298 As far as enforcement priorities go, I understand going after other targets first. But why announce that? I thought self-deporting was a big part of the plan here.

Let Big Ag figure out how to operate without illegal quasi-slave labor (I think they'll be fine, with minimal interruption.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 01:07 PM (uCjyK)

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Considering this action of the marijuana farm was one of the largest ICE operations in history and happened after the announcement of deprioritization...

Maybe, just maybe, it was a psyop not directed at the right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)

307 Epstein. Date rape drug could be used on a man.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 11, 2025 01:06 PM (T0Rsl)
________

They are used on men. Girls pick up guys at clubs, go back to the guy's place, drug them, and then steal their shit.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 01:09 PM (iFTx/)

308 Think of the probable drug cartel involvement in this cannabis farm, how well armed and organized they are further up the chain....

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 11, 2025 01:09 PM (Vvh2V)

309 I done two tours of duty in Vietnam
I came home with a brand new plan
I take the seed from Colombia and Mexico
I plant it up the holler down Copperhead Road

Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

310 An MAU on liberty in LA with $200 per Marine for beer. Problem solved.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 11, 2025 01:09 PM (O7pnU)

311 Most of their credentials are forged even in medicine.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (bvNHo)

312 Considering this action of the marijuana farm was one of the largest ICE operations in history and happened after the announcement of deprioritization...

Maybe, just maybe, it was a psyop not directed at the right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)

I'm assuming they managed to arrest some..

Posted by: It's me donna at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (VE6XX)

313 289 Tech companies hire from India and China because they don't want to pay American citizen wages. Indians work cheap, almost criminally cheap. They end up very much like Indentured Servants for the corp. I've seen it first hand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 01:05 PM (xcxpd)

There's that, but I also think there's an element of people in tech (many of whom are Indian or Chinese) hiring "their own" people.

All the anti-white leftism that exists in this country exists even more for foreigners who have no real interaction with Americans.

Some departments in these tech companies are almost entirely staffed by Indians or Chinese, often from the same castes / villages. And most of them don't think very highly of heritage Americans, and hire based solely on nepotism.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (uCjyK)

314 We did that in the mid 70s in Mexico. Marijuana smokers in the Southwest were smoking paraquat dosed marijuana because of it.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 12:56 PM (lIio7)

And that is the point. Make that shit so radioactive that nobody will buy it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (oZ8xm)

315 Maybe, just maybe, it was a psyop not directed at the right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)

No, no, no. We need to be ANGRY and tell everyone we can that Trump has betrayed us all!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (ExV1e)

316 DNC Chair: The Democratic Party Welcomes Those Who Want to Kill Jews

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (RHGPo)

317 Looks like King Harv is hitting the DMT pretty hard.

Posted by: Max Power at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (q177U)

318 315
No, no, no. We need to be ANGRY and tell everyone we can that Trump has betrayed us all!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (ExV1e)

=======

He hasn't yet repealed the current copyright regime of Life+70.

I'll never vote for him again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (GBKbO)

319 Posted by: wth at July 11, 2025 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

Steve Earle. Good song.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:11 PM (ExV1e)

320 A judicial win for Trump? A judge says that Hegseth can withdraw from Biteme's commie intern's 11th hour attempt to save the lives of the 9/11 planners:

x.com/EWess92/status/
1943690178016469292

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 01:11 PM (cduTK)

321 " You can't handle tje truth "
Epstein file holders

Posted by: Skip at July 11, 2025 01:11 PM (+qU29)

322 CaliGirl I have read pretty disturbing stuff about abuse in the H-2A program. Wonder what your much more direct/real world impression is?
Posted by: rhomboid at July 11, 2025 01:03 PM (1m82a)

H2A workers are covered by the Migrant and Seasonal Protection Act which has minimum standards for housing, work and pay. This is enforced by federal laws, and the states only look-in is to report violations.
The orchards and packers (Bear Creek and the others) down in Medford in the peach and pear orchards have contract workers they bring in from Mexico, and they send busses for them, and they have regular camps for them.
Cherries and pears in the Columbia Gorge use mostly migrant workers, with some H2A. One of the growers told me that he preferred migrants since they were mostly professionals, or at least the newbies in the groups were supported by seasoned professionals. He thought the learning curve for H2A workers was too long to get good value from the contracts. The growers pay good money for the workers because they need them for a good product.

Now, on the other hand there was an ICE raid on a Dole processing plant in Portland about 2006 that netted a lot of illegals.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 01:12 PM (D7oie)

323 Middle aged white leftist stoners want underage slaves to harvest their weed cheaply. Stick to that narrative

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 01:12 PM (JtH6i)

324 308 Think of the probable drug cartel involvement in this cannabis farm, how well armed and organized they are further up the chain....
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at July 11, 2025 01:09 PM

Ding ding ding. With a few exceptions the weed guys I've met are shady.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 01:12 PM (CueAq)

325 Well no one will ever vote for him again.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:12 PM (bvNHo)

326 Trump on the ground in Texas

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 01:12 PM (JtH6i)

327 Father Time is undefeated. Novak Djokovic is getting worked in the Wimbledon semis. Too bad, I like to pull for the old guys…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (xT8gx)

328 > And that is the point. Make that shit so radioactive that nobody will buy it.

Drug buyers don't seem to work that way. Demand goes UP after an OD because the junkies think that means the dealer must have some really good drugs.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (lIio7)

329 MSPA is enforced fairly strictly in my experience. There is too much institutional memory of share croppers being abused for the feds to ignore.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (D7oie)

330 “If you mask yourself because you don't want to be seen, there will be a reckoning for some of the actions law enforcement have done."

Preach it.

Posted by: Antifa Dickwad Throwing Molotovs While Wearing a Mask to Prevent Being ID'd at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (M0V4/)

331 My least favorite ads are on TV for "smelly vaginas" and whole body deodorant sprays!
Posted by: Chillin the mist at July 11, 2025 01:06 PM (Ofe5D

Pits, packages and feet!!

Ugh.

Posted by: Stupid Typical Fucking Moonbat at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (BMHsU)

332 Isn't he best on clay?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 01:13 PM (bvNHo)

333 289 Tech companies hire from India and China because they don't want to pay American citizen wages. Indians work cheap, almost criminally cheap. They end up very much like Indentured Servants for the corp. I've seen it first hand.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

... when I worked at Intel, I was told there was a policy of hiring 5 offshore (i.e. Chinese or Indian) employees for every US employee on a project.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (RHGPo)

334 Nood. Senators like spending money.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (ExV1e)

335 nood fake repubs

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (aBgBM)

336 nood,ace trashing someone called TJM

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:14 PM (GBKbO)

337 315 Maybe, just maybe, it was a psyop not directed at the right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)

No, no, no. We need to be ANGRY and tell everyone we can that Trump has betrayed us all!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 01:10 PM (ExV1e)

Trump has 4 years. He ran on ending wars, draining the swamp, and building a wall between the US and Mexico.

I don't understand why any of his base would get annoyed when others are saying "uhh... Trump, what happened to these promises you made when you were running?"

He's not running for re-election, and none of us are on MSNBC saying "as a severely conservative MAGA supporter, I denounce Trump..."

So what's the issue with pointing out places where Trump is not being aggressive enough?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 11, 2025 01:15 PM (uCjyK)

338
Here's some fuel for the fire. Guess who runs the "legal" pot trade in California? Here's a clue. It begins with "car" and ends with "tels."
____

This, I assure you, is a legitimate business.
Posted by: Gus F., Los Pollos Hermanos, proprieter at July 11, 2025 12:28 PM (Dv3i1)

As I recall, about a year or two after CA decriminalized weed, the owner of the biggest legal grow ops around Santa Barbara got busted by the Feds in Oklahoma driving a box truck full of weed as he was delivering to the traffickers there.

The cartels want a mix of legal and illegal states in order to maximize profits, without having to incur the costs and risks of long range transport from Meheeco across the border.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 11, 2025 01:19 PM (y9nCu)

339 They are used on men. Girls pick up guys at clubs, go back to the guy's place, drug them, and then steal their shit.
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Well, at least he gets to keep his kidneys.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 01:21 PM (W3T6M)

340
Hakeem proves that he is the hand puppet nullity of Nanzi every time he opens his stupid mouth.

What a fooking disgrace Dims' leadership is.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 01:22 PM (Tv15w)

341 Beck highlights a “massive digital footprint” and asks why information from “hundreds of hard drives” and multiple servers haven’t been fully disclosed.

.. because anything you can't put in a one page memo will get distorted by your enemies

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 01:24 PM (RHGPo)

342
I wanna see the gold in Fort Knox! Trump promised!

Ah-heh, ah-heh, ah-waaaaaaaaaaah!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 01:25 PM (Tv15w)

343 143 Can we please stop using the term "antifa" and start calling these awful people what they really are?

DEMOCRAT SHOCK TROOPS
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 11, 2025 12:34 PM (tYXcB)

Brownshirts. Same ideology, same purpose.

Posted by: And fewer syllables at July 11, 2025 01:36 PM (TbWk/)

344 Oh and Rhomboid, you're correct in what you keep writing. I don't know why it's allowed but the feds are allowing it to happen.

Posted by: CaliGirl at July 11, 2025 01:42 PM (CueAq)

345 DEMOCRATS ARE DISGUSTING AND DANGEROUS
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Always.

Posted by: William Tecumseh Sherman at July 11, 2025 01:48 PM (xjgYc)

346 Between the footage of this "freedom fighter" shooting at ICE and the video from Philly over the July4 weekend, where bruthas randomly sprayed their street with lead, it makes me feel a bit more secure to know that the most violence-inclined among us are also the worst shots around.

Posted by: red speck at July 11, 2025 01:49 PM (0Id0S)

347 i love these shit pebblems man

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 01:50 PM (3sSZK)

348 Two words: shoot. back. In unison. Enough.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 11, 2025 01:58 PM (5xuJ/)

349 This could stop tomorrow. All they have to do is repeal sanctuary city polices. When their police arrest an illegal, just hand him over to the feds. Then they wouldn't have to run around the streets trying to arrest them.

Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at July 11, 2025 02:13 PM (gDhA9)

350 I kept hoping the "flag girl" would have her pole break under a wheel, resulting in splinters flying in it's eye.

I could not figure out what she/it thought was going to happen by poking the flag pole in the wheels.

Nothing happened. Hope someone collects the $50k and turns the pistol guy into the feds for the catapult quick removal of trash. Over the border you go! Adios!

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at July 11, 2025 05:49 PM (6PCLE)

351 Take our weed away and we will take your lives away, ICE and CBP

Posted by: AntifaCA at July 11, 2025 11:33 PM (drsbM)

352 if they try to shoot back we will use full auto rifles with poison coated bullets and use car bombs with poison coated shrapnel.

Posted by: AntifaCA at July 11, 2025 11:34 PM (drsbM)

THE MORNING RANT: 2025 Has Been an Awful Year for EVs, and It Keeps Getting Worse

2025 has been a disaster for the electric vehicle industry in the United States. But as bad as it’s been, it just got a lot worse. As I documented a few days ago, The One Big Beautiful Bill that has now become law eliminates the $7,500 federal tax credit for buying a new EV, and it also kills the $4,000 credit for buying a used EV. These tax credits permanently go away in less than two months.

Irrespective of the Big Beautiful Bill, sales of EV’s were already falling way short of expectations in the first quarter of 2025, and then the bottom fell out in the second quarter of 2025.

“Electric Vehicle Sales Fall in 2nd Quarter” [WSJ – 7/02/2025]

US car buyers continue to sour on electric vehicles. Ford Motor, Hyundai, and Kia all reported steep declines in EV sales for the second quarter, with Ford saying its fell more than 30% and Kia saying sales of two models dropped by half.

Ford’s flagship electric vehicle, the F150 ~~Conflagration~~ Lightning pickup truck, is in a sales free fall. Ford sold just 5,842 of these abominations in Q2 of 2025, which represented a 26% decline from the already-pathetic sales volume in the prior-year Q2. 2025 Lightning sales are annualizing to just 23,000 per year, while actually trending even lower.

Now is a good time to remember that Ford built an all-new plant near Memphis to produce 500,000 electric pickup trucks per year. That plant is now mothballed and heading toward obsolescence/repurposing without having ever manufactured one vehicle. Overall, Ford’s Q2 sales were up 14% year-over-year. Maybe that Memphis plant can be refitted to build cars and trucks that people actually want to buy.

For Volkswagen, the EV sales collapse is even worse. VW sold a paltry 1,992 electric ID.4s in Q2 2025, a 65% collapse year-over-year. These sales figures are approaching what might be constituted “nominal” sales volume. VW makes some great gasoline-powered cars, but it has been so distracted with the EV push, that its entire product lineup is collapsing, with total US sales down 29% year over year. Meanwhile, most other major manufacturers are seeing increased ICE vehicle sales in the U.S. If VW doesn’t get back to focusing on cars that Americans will buy, their U.S. operations are at risk. I am a fan of VW’s non-electric cars and I would hate to see them exit the US market, but VW will have to give up the EV dream if it is going to regain lost ground.

The same story plays out with other manufacturers who made major commitments to EVs. While BMW’s overall year-to-date vehicle sales in the U.S. are up, its EV sales are collapsing, with Q2 EV sales of just 11,094 units, a 21% year-over-year decrease.

Even Tesla sales are down significantly. Elon Musk’s EV company does not break its sales out by country or region, but its global sales have been down significantly in 2025, with Q2 sales down 14%. Mr. Musk famously angered the left by aligning with President Trump to clean out government waste, which clearly caused a backlash from some of Tesla’s left-wing customer base. But those lost Tesla sales didn’t go elsewhere. They just went away, or back to ICE vehicles.

And then there is Rivian. Not only is it not gaining sales from disaffected Tesla shoppers, but its sales are going the wrong way…rapidly. Having sold right at 50,000 units each of the past two full years, the company set a guidance for about the same number of sales in 2025. Halfway through the year, Rivian has sold less than 20,000 vehicles, which annualizes to under 40,000 per year. It really doesn’t matter. Be it 40,000 or 50,000 units per year, these are the sales figures of a zombie company. Rivian’s original business plan when it seduced more than $1 billion for a proposed Georgia plant from governor Brian Kemp was to be selling hundreds of thousands of vehicles per year by now. Rivian’s Illinois plant alone can produce more than 200,000 vehicles per year. The proposed Rivian plant in Georgia was not built, but Gov. Kemp did build a beautiful “Parkway to Nowhere” in rural Georgia for it. Rivian’s sales have been tumbling with the EV tax credit in place. It will be a financial bloodbath for the company when sales plummet further - with a bigger loss per unit - when the tax credit goes away.

In fact, all of these horrible EV sales results I’ve discussed are with the $7,500 EV tax credit still in place. There may be an uptick in EV sales in Q3 due to manufacturers desperately discounting their glut of unsold electric vehicles before the tax credit goes away. In fact, they’d better make those vehicles go away in Q3, because any unsold EVs on dealer lots on October 1 will become un-moveable boat anchors.

*****

One more quick item…

Do you remember that story a few weeks ago about a fire on a ship transporting EVs across the Pacific Ocean? The crew had to abandon ship due to the intensity of the fire. That car carrier, the Morning Midas, has now sunk.

“Cargo Ship That Caught Fire Carrying Electric Vehicles Sinks in the Pacific” [NY Times – 6/25/2025]

Three weeks after a fire broke out on the ship off the coast of Alaska, the Morning Midas sank, along with thousands of cars on board.

This is becoming a disturbing trend. Ships carrying vehicles have had occasional fires over the years, but these EV fires that are causing cargo ships to be abandoned and sometimes sink is an all-new maritime hazard. In fact, insurers were already concerned about insuring cargo ships that transport EVs. In 2022, the Felicity Ace was consumed by fire thanks to its load of EVs, and it sank. A year later, a similar fire destroyed the Fremantle Highway, which was transporting EVs.

Insurers and cargo carriers were already getting wary of transporting EVs, as evidenced by a lawsuit against VW for its role in the Felicity Ace’s sinking, which was believed to have been precipitated by an electric Porsche spontaneously erupting in flames.

“Volkswagen Sued by Mitsui OSK Lines for the Loss of Felicity Ace Car Carrier”

The ongoing debate over the safety of transporting electric vehicles is gaining new attention with reports that the owners and insurance company for the car carrier Felicity Ace are suing Volkswagen Group blaming the auto company for the 2022 fire that destroyed the vessel.

Traditional fire suppression systems aboard cargo ships are little help against the virtually unextinguishable runaway thermal fires from a load of burning EVs.

The “EV transition” is now de-transitioning. The next big conversation needs to be on where these explosive ordnance vehicles are allowed and not allowed. Following the Morning Midas’ sinking, it may become tougher for cargo lines to obtain insurance for ships carrying EVs. Insurers would also be well within their rights to deny coverage to buildings with parking garages put at structural risk by EV fires.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Is this where I can get the talley man to talley me bananas?

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:00 AM (/BLT9)

2 Of course !

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 11:00 AM (GbwPZ)

3 Bzzzzz

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 11:01 AM (60s6u)

4 Elon has a sad

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:01 AM (dCxaZ)

5 seeing increased ICE vehicle sales

To sweep up wetbacks.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 11:03 AM (60s6u)

6 4 Elon has a sad
Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:01 AM (dCxaZ)

Hard to care, these days

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 11:03 AM (/YboP)

7 >>The ongoing debate over the safety of transporting electric vehicles is gaining new attention with reports that the owners and insurance company for the car carrier Felicity Ace are suing Volkswagen Group blaming the auto company for the 2022 fire that destroyed the vessel.

Safety of storing them, too - your home garage, parking garages, battery warehouses. Pretty much everywhere.

Also note that antifa has been using electric cars and scooters in protests, such as the Waymo cars in LA and the EV scooters to attack an ICE building in Seattle (IIRC) by piling them up by an entrance and then setting them on fire. Weaponized EVs.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 11:03 AM (GbwPZ)

8 I never went over 2 cups per gallon.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 11:03 AM (bvNHo)

9 >>Elon has a sad

Man, does that guy have public mood swings!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 11:04 AM (GbwPZ)

10 Russell Brand@RustyRockets

I think people like RFK Jr., Tommy Robinson, and even Andrew Tate would die for what they believe. You may not agree with them, but their conviction is real.

In a culture hell-bent on weakening men, true strength comes from submission to something higher, and that is God.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 11:04 AM (TGPs7)

11 has now sunk.

But still burning.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 11:04 AM (60s6u)

12 5 seeing increased ICE vehicle sales

To sweep up wetbacks.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 11:03 AM (60s6u

Good! And since "only traitors help invaders" sweep up the democrats organizing the anti-ICE violence

Posted by: night lifted at July 11, 2025 11:04 AM (/YboP)

13 Ford is requesting components be made in the US. J’s company is looking at bringing manufacturing back here. They are avoiding California and Massachusetts, despite having an HQ there, and looking at rural VA outside of NC, not Charlotte. Potentially other southern states.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:05 AM (pZEOD)

14 EVs?

I pass 2 8 stall (1 for Tesla, 1 for ??)charging stations cutting thru the Target lot on my way to the gas station. When I come back from filling up my car, the same cars are sitting there, no matter the weather, for who knows how long.

I laugh every time

Posted by: Bruce at July 11, 2025 11:05 AM (BHLaI)

15 We actually had an EV fire screwing up traffic on 93N this morning.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 11:05 AM (kgE5c)

16 Time for a second look at steam power?

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 11, 2025 11:06 AM (6LBk0)

17 Also note that antifa has been using electric cars and scooters in protests, such as the Waymo cars in LA and the EV scooters to attack an ICE building in Seattle (IIRC) by piling them up by an entrance and then setting them on fire. Weaponized EVs.
Posted by: Lizzy
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I knew about the Waymo but not the EV scooter tactic. I think the slow moving cold Civil War part Deux is getting a bit hotter in deep blue states. Dems are fighting to keep their illegals as hard as they fought to keep their slaves in the original ACW.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:06 AM (ctrM5)

18 I hear that the real problem on the Felicity Ace was its poor shelving.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)

19 Not to worry, EV folks. Once the country whipsaws back to radical leftism in a few years, I'm sure we'll be forced to buy them.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at July 11, 2025 11:07 AM (ERYKL)

20 Yea but ... Bentley announced a new concept car this week, and it's a megabucks EV. The EXP15. So there's that.

https://tinyurl.com/2bk83d6

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (iFTx/)

21 The EV future is gone like Disney’s Tomorrowland. He has his car that will run on Mars, if he ever gets there. He’d best concentrate on his other businesses if he’s looking for profit to fund his vision.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (WK0PT)

22 10 Russell Brand@RustyRockets

I think people like RFK Jr., Tommy Robinson, and even Andrew Tate would die for what they believe. You may not agree with them, but their conviction is real.

In a culture hell-bent on weakening men, true strength comes from submission to something higher, and that is God.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 11:04 AM (TGPs7)

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Andrew Tate?

Bruh...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (GBKbO)

23 What about hemp powered cars made out of hemp?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (bvNHo)

24 10 Russell Brand@RustyRockets

I think people like RFK Jr., Tommy Robinson, and even Andrew Tate would die for what they believe. You may not agree with them, but their conviction is real.

In a culture hell-bent on weakening men, true strength comes from submission to something higher, and that is God.
Posted by: Mister Ghost
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Submission to something greater than oneself. I think some are submitting to the opposite of the Lord though.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (ctrM5)

25 He = Musk!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (WK0PT)

26 Time for a second look at steam power?
Posted by: Polka will never die

The first automobile was actually steam-powered. Invented by a Frenchman in 1770 (or thereabouts).

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)

27 I have an old Ford Focus, Titanium, model. Other than the double clutch its been a good car. Its got 114k miles and runs like a top. I tell myself its a James Bond car which makes me happy. When I fill her up with CostCo premium Imma rocking.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (W3T6M)

28 Hey, guess who the cloud seeding guy in Texas was hanging out with?

Would you believe, Bill Clinton?

I guess you would...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 11:09 AM (TGPs7)

29 Correction: It was electric bikes, not scooters:

https://tinyurl.com/3cs6tznu

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 11:09 AM (GbwPZ)

30 Awful year for EV's, wonderful year for the restoration of my faith in humanity.

I don't know if I want to see California rescind its EV mandate or not. Yes, it would be a wonderful lesson in the real world intruding on fantasy when they realize how inadequate their current power generation capabilities and grid infrastructure is to charge all those additional EV's, and that is bit the tip of the iceberg. Maybe this time the California electorate will finally realize that voting for something means you might actually receive it, and adjust their future behavior accordingly.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:10 AM (/BLT9)

31 Don't worry, folks, the Segway is gonna change everything!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:10 AM (77rzZ)

32 Felicity Ace

Keri Russell and an Ewok walk into a bar ...

Posted by: far cry at July 11, 2025 11:10 AM (a302Y)

33 kids on electric bikes and scooters have exploded here today, and they are move like Dirt Bikes but since they have pedals they are allowed on the paths here, but they go so so fast, I have been nearly hit by these kids. I had a moped and i had to get a license but you can't ride a moped on the paths because it has a motor, Golf Carts are ok???

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (FCrpy)

34 I agree with just about everything except the description the EVs just spontaneously catching fire. Not that it makes it much better but there has to be a trigger such as damage, loose connections, manufacturing defect, etc combined with an event. Something as simple as water infiltration or impact.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (VofaG)

35 The house we will be renting on the Outer Banks, in the contract it stated no EVs are to be parked or charged on the property.

I've notice in my bolshevik neighborhood, the people with EVs typically charge their vehicles away from the house/garage/carport. Gee I wonder why? ?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (m5P/4)

36 "This ship be sinking".

Posted by: Michael Ray Richardson 1981 at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (G5+As)

37 In a culture hell-bent on weakening men, true strength comes from submission to something higher, and that is God.
Posted by: Mister Ghost
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Submission to something greater than oneself. I think some are submitting to the opposite of the Lord though.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (ctrM5)

It's a Demon Haunted World to say the least...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (TGPs7)

38 Its really too bad VW made their retro Van as an EV. They could have scored big with the model if it ran on gas.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (W3T6M)

39 Manufacturers! Do you want to empty your parking lots of unsold EVs? Ship them away, the insurance will pay for the sunken crap.

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (HUqpb)

40 9 >>Elon has a sad

Man, does that guy have public mood swings!
Posted by: Lizzy
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Elon has been running a series of spinning plates for awhile. Leverage via debt and investors, etc. is great on the upside but not so good on the downside.

Tesla, for example, is probably overvalued based on standard measures and it is difficult enough to focus on one thing--the EV car business but now the AI part of Tesla is what is driving the stock valuation.

Space X has first mover advantage but now competitors are beginning to catch up. And so on.

X is probably still not profitable.

And so it goes.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:12 AM (ctrM5)

41 Russell Brand@RustyRockets

I think people like RFK Jr., Tommy Robinson, and even Andrew Tate would die for what they believe. You may not agree with them, but their conviction is real.

In a culture hell-bent on weakening men, true strength comes from submission to something higher, and that is God.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 11:04 AM (TGPs7)
_______

Tate might die to get a few more SM followers. So there's that.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 11:12 AM (iFTx/)

42 It's a Demon Haunted World to say the least...
Posted by: Mister Ghost
========
Sounds like something Disney would put in for Disneyworld. As a good thing.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:13 AM (ctrM5)

43 > Even Tesla sales are down significantly.
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So's Tesla's stock price. After his tiff with Trump it tanked. So, while the left takes their anger out on the EV's the right takes it out on Tesla's stock value.

Which is worse?

It doesn't matter... Musk's flagship enterprise is being torched from both ends. He should probably stick to rockets, EV's and flamethrowers and leave politics to the adults.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

44 The automotive press has been pushing EVs as the greatest thing since sliced bread for a decade. Their credibility is shot.

Posted by: mr tmz at July 11, 2025 11:15 AM (rJ48h)

45 44 It doesn't matter... Musk's flagship enterprise is being torched from both ends. He should probably stick to rockets, EV's and flamethrowers and leave politics to the adults.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

=======

Maybe the Democrat establishment will decide to cast off the Pritzker family donations to try and secure Musk donations by cutting the tranny shit out of the party completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:15 AM (GBKbO)

46 It doesn't matter... Musk's flagship enterprise is being torched from both ends. He should probably stick to rockets, EV's and flamethrowers and leave politics to the adults.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

Just an aside, most people don't know that
Space X came before Tesla.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:15 AM (VofaG)

47 But it's a MAGA victory!
Beth@beth_cronk
We are doing that now, thanks to Trump:

Hyundai: Announced a $21 billion investment in the U.S., including $5.8 billion for a new steel plant in Louisiana to support EV production at its Georgia and Alabama facilities. Additionally, Hyundai is expanding its Georgia Metaplant to increase production capacity from 300,000 to 500,000 vehicles per year.

• Ford: Invested $9.6 billion in a loan to fund three U.S. battery plants and broke ground on a $5.6 billion EV “mega campus” in Tennessee. Ford also announced a $3.5 billion investment for a lithium iron phosphate (LFP) battery plant in Michigan, creating 2,500 jobs.

• Stellantis: Committed $5 billion to the U.S., including reopening an assembly plant in Belvidere, Illinois, previously shuttered in 2023.

• Volkswagen: Plans to invest $20 billion in North America, with $10 billion allocated to its Chattanooga, Tennessee plant, $5 billion for a joint venture with Rivian, and $5 billion for Scout Motors to produce extended-range EVs.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2025 11:15 AM (2yoRf)

48 • Toyota: Invested $1.4 billion in its Princeton, Indiana plant for EV assembly and has announced approximately $4 billion in U.S. investments over the past year, including $88 million in 2025 for plants in Kentucky, Alabama, Texas, and West Virginia.

• Tesla: Reported a cumulative investment of $44 billion in U.S. manufacturing and infrastructure, with $10 billion spent in the last fiscal year alone.

• General Motors: Part of a $7 billion investment across four Michigan sites to repurpose plants for battery cell and EV manufacturing.

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2025 11:15 AM (2yoRf)

49 Elon is just trying to get to Mars to escape his future creditors.

Posted by: Get your ass to Mars! at July 11, 2025 11:15 AM (y+qgR)

50 Seems mother erf don’t like EV going round pollutin’.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 11:16 AM (jgmnb)

51 35 The house we will be renting on the Outer Banks, in the contract it stated no EVs are to be parked or charged on the property.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd.

The oceanfront house we rented last week in South Nags Head had an EV charger prominently mounted on the building.

Posted by: Nobody Used It at July 11, 2025 11:16 AM (G5+As)

52 There's one good thing about spending tens of billions of taxpayer dollars on a few charging stations: Cleanup costs to remove them will be much reduced.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:16 AM (Riz8t)

53 33 kids on electric bikes and scooters have exploded here today
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 11, 2025 11:11 AM (FCrpy)

Watch out for exploding kids!

Posted by: Emmie at July 11, 2025 11:16 AM (rF2iL)

54 4 Elon has a sad
Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:01 AM (dCxaZ)

Mr. Musk, to cheer you up a bit, I have a deal for you. Have the Boring Company re-introduce the Not-a-Flamethrower on the market, and I will buy two.

I promise to keep them a safe(-ish) distance from any Teslas.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:16 AM (/BLT9)

55 >>It doesn't matter... Musk's flagship enterprise is being torched from both ends. He should probably stick to rockets, EV's and flamethrowers and leave politics to the adults.

I saw he was imaging one of his tunnels from the USA to the UK - holy crap, what a bad idea. Why would we want to make it easier for "Brits" to get to our country.

*By "Brits" I mean the new 'Yookay' https://x.com/MythoYookay

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 11:18 AM (GbwPZ)

56 34 I agree with just about everything except the description the EVs just spontaneously catching fire. Not that it makes it much better but there has to be a trigger such as damage, loose connections, manufacturing defect, etc combined with an event. Something as simple as water infiltration or impact.
Posted by: polynikes
=========
EVs in their current form are simply a niche market. Hard to balance weight of the batteries, rechargeability, and less flammability requirements.

Gas, propane, CNG, on the other hand, not so much.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:18 AM (ctrM5)

57 Put a mast and sail through the sunroof and sail it to the dealership.
-Panamanian Shipping Co.

Posted by: Eromero at July 11, 2025 11:19 AM (jgmnb)

58 @21

>>He has his car that will run on Mars, if he ever gets there. He’d best concentrate on his other businesses if he’s looking for profit to fund his vision.

Going to Mars is stupid, pointless and a vanity project.

If Musk wants to waste his money doing it, more power to him, but taxpayer money should not be thrown that rabbit hole.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:20 AM (XV/Pl)

59 Why would we want to make it easier for "Brits" to get to our country.
Posted by: Lizzy

So Keir Starmer can come after those of us who call him a poopy head online.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:20 AM (77rzZ)

60 Maybe the Democrat establishment will decide to cast off the Pritzker family donations to try and secure Musk donations by cutting the tranny shit out of the party completely.

That is the funniest thing I have read this week.

Posted by: GloboHomo at July 11, 2025 11:21 AM (D0HYP)

61 Put a mast and sail through the sunroof and sail it to the dealership.
----
Look at me! I am the driver now!
-- Somali carjacker

Posted by: andycanuck at July 11, 2025 11:22 AM (2yoRf)

62 33
‘ but they go so so fast, I have been nearly hit by these kids.’

I’d carry a stick or an umbrella.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 11, 2025 11:22 AM (jbnUc)

63 Andrew Tate?

Bruh...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Climbs on my soapbox

When boys are getting told from the beginning that they are basically defective girls with dangly bits, the source of all evil in the world and potential rapists waiting to happen, some dude who tells people like that to fuck off is going to get attention.

He's a scum bag and I'd rather see more positive male role models stepping up but that will take a while.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 11:22 AM (lXoJ5)

64 I can see Musk selling X to a liberal conglomerate at a loss if he keeps getting rejected by the Right.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:22 AM (VofaG)

65 Maybe the Democrat establishment will decide to cast off the Pritzker family donations to try and secure Musk donations by cutting the tranny shit out of the party completely.

That is the funniest thing I have read this week.

Things are changing fast. John Kerry says Trump was right about wanting to close the border. This is how you know the Dems are seriously worried about their future.

https://is.gd/7WZLry

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:23 AM (Riz8t)

66 Thx Buck. Gasparino at the NY Post has an opinion column today setting for that the Tesla board of directors has to rein in Musk. Losing the tax credits could be the death knell of EVs.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 11:23 AM (JtH6i)

67 I've notice in my bolshevik neighborhood, the people with EVs typically charge their vehicles away from the house/garage/carport. Gee I wonder why? ?
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd.

If EVs keep being A Thing, I foresee the return of the carriage house/detatched garage as desirable property element for those who own them.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 11:24 AM (a+4eV)

68 7 ...
Safety of storing them, too - your home garage, parking garages, battery warehouses. Pretty much everywhere...

Not only are parking garages subject to fire damage, but some of the structures could collapse due to the added weight, (EV's are much heavier than ICE vehicles.)
https://tinyurl.com/3rnj8uwk

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:25 AM (/BLT9)

69 68 If EVs keep being A Thing, I foresee the return of the carriage house/detatched garage as desirable property element for those who own them.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 11:24 AM (a+4eV)

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Kitchens used to be built separately from the house because of chances of fire.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:25 AM (GBKbO)

70 I can see Musk selling X to a liberal conglomerate at a loss if he keeps getting rejected by the Right.

Posted by: polynikes

Is the Right rejecting him, or just hoping that he'll take a chill-pill?

Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 11:25 AM (a+4eV)

71 Maybe the Democrat establishment will decide to cast off the Pritzker family donations to try and secure Musk donations by cutting the tranny shit out of the party completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
=====
Civil war among Dems in NYC and Gruesome's embrace of violent foreign flag waving assholes in CA is likely to be causing heartburn as well.

Dems seem to be repeating their ACW years with the 'fire eaters' and the older pseudo populist scatering to wealthy oligarchs.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:25 AM (ctrM5)

72 setting for that the Tesla board of directors has to rein in Musk.

I don't think they are very happy about his plan to start a new political party

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:26 AM (dCxaZ)

73 If EVs keep being A Thing, I foresee the return of the carriage house/detatched garage as desirable property element for those who own them.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 11:24 AM (a+4eV)

JT Marlin upgrades Amalgamated Asbestos Industries to STRONG BUY.

Posted by: JT Marlin at July 11, 2025 11:27 AM (muwun)

74 Is the Right rejecting him, or just hoping that he'll take a chill-pill?

Schlichter clearly thinks it's the latter. I agree with him.

https://is.gd/qB47Vy

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:27 AM (Riz8t)

75 I saw he was imaging one of his tunnels from the USA to the UK - holy crap, what a bad idea. Why would we want to make it easier for "Brits" to get to our country.

*By "Brits" I mean the new 'Yookay' https://x.com/MythoYookay
Posted by: Lizzy
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Basically sci fi at this point due to plate tectonics. Boring would do better doing what it is doing--focusing on tunnelling in cities for services and roads, etc.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:28 AM (ctrM5)

76 23 What about hemp powered cars made out of hemp?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 11:08 AM (bvNHo)

Probably not a lot of people who would complain if they started burning.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:28 AM (/BLT9)

77 @168

>>If EVs keep being A Thing,

EV's can never be a thing, there are over 280m vehicles in America, the current power grid can barely support the current stock of sold EV's, which to date is slightly under 7m since 2010.

In order to displace ICE vehicles, it would take the building of nuclear power generation plants in pretty much every state to handle the load.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)

78 If EVs keep being A Thing, I foresee the return of the carriage house/detatched garage as desirable property element for those who own them.

I can't imagine having a detached garage in someplace where the weather is cold and snowy/icy but damn if they didn't build them where we were in CO.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 11:29 AM (3Ope8)

79 Thanks for that Archimedes.

This paragraph in real think pops out.

"There’s simply no constituency to not do that at the moment. Who is the voter who is in favor of a 40% cut to Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare, the real drivers of debt? There are some. Probably about 5% of voters. There is a huge theoretical constituency for balancing the budget today, and nearly zero constituency for doing the things required to make it happen.

Elon Musk felt betrayed by this, which he wasn’t. His coalition faction just didn’t get everything that it wanted. "

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:29 AM (ctrM5)

80 It doesn't matter... Musk's flagship enterprise is being torched from both ends. He should probably stick to rockets, EV's and flamethrowers and leave politics to the adults.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:14 AM (Q4IgG)

=======

Maybe the Democrat establishment will decide to cast off the Pritzker family donations to try and secure Musk donations by cutting the tranny shit out of the party completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:15 AM (GBKbO)
________

We'll know when Dems start making Hitler salutes

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 11:29 AM (iFTx/)

81 In order to displace ICE vehicles, it would take the building of nuclear power generation plants in pretty much every state to handle the load.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

Screams in Greta Thunberg

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 11:30 AM (lXoJ5)

82 I have been nearly hit by these kids.’

A scooter punk hits me there will be injuries. Theirs.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 11:30 AM (8QPXz)

83 Is the Right rejecting him, or just hoping that he'll take a chill-pill?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 11, 2025 11:25 AM (a+4eV)

Creating another party against Trump ain't much of a chill pill. I think he's past chilling.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:30 AM (VofaG)

84 Civil war among Dems in NYC and Gruesome's embrace of violent foreign flag waving assholes in CA is likely to be causing heartburn as well.

Dems seem to be repeating their ACW years with the 'fire eaters' and the older pseudo populist scatering to wealthy oligarchs.

It's not just them. Ed Martin, the head of the DNC, welcomes violent anti-semites into his party's "big tent". I wonder when he'll give a big hug to the Einsatzgruppen.

https://is.gd/ySIZhj

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:30 AM (Riz8t)

85 @71

>>Is the Right rejecting him, or just hoping that he'll take a chill-pill?

The right is not rejecting Musk, Musk has gone off the rails.

If he can reign it in, then the unpleasantness will be over.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:30 AM (XV/Pl)

86 Bulg -

Here’s a link to the Wikipedia article on the inventor:

https://is.gd/yuEfcQ

But steam was already tried when it was a fully developed technology and lost out to ICE, partly due to the improved efficiency of internal vs. external combustion. That can’t be helped: it’s built in to the physics. Why should steam work any better today? You still have to burn something to heat the boiler! Note the heat being applied externally means more of it is lost to the environment: that is why an ICE is inherently more efficient than an ECE (External Combustion Engine).

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 11:31 AM (WK0PT)

87 Maybe EVs should re-brand themselves as "External Combustion" vehicles.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2025 11:31 AM (9tkmY)

88 Breaking EV news: the Rivian remains butt ugly.

Posted by: But you already knew that at July 11, 2025 11:31 AM (XQo4F)

89 @89

>>Breaking EV news: the Rivian remains butt ugly.

Not as ugly as the new 4Runner, that thing is fugly as all get out.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:32 AM (XV/Pl)

90
More "the floor is collapsing" on this-or-that lefty-pushed industry (cf. Hollywood and the MSM). End, already! I want to know when someone big goes bankrupt and we can look at EV charging stations as quaint relics that are soon to revert to normal parking spaces. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 11:33 AM (UmB+t)

91 Elon Musk felt betrayed by this, which he wasn’t. His coalition faction just didn’t get everything that it wanted. "

De nada. It really is a case study in the different ways of thinking of engineers and pols. For an engineer, there's a right way and a wrong way, and only his way is the right way. For a pol, success is the art of the possible.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)

92
Aaaaaaand good morning!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 11:33 AM (UmB+t)

93 Doesn't Musk also dig holes in the ground?

Posted by: It's boring at July 11, 2025 11:33 AM (XQo4F)

94 Going to Mars is stupid, pointless and a vanity project.
--------------
Matt Damon has been to Mars.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 11:34 AM (W3T6M)

95 Is the Right rejecting him, or just hoping that he'll take a chill-pill?

Schlichter clearly thinks it's the latter. I agree with him.

https://is.gd/qB47Vy
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:27 AM (Riz8t)
______

I don't think the Right has rejected him, because a lot of what he wants to get done is what the Right wants too. In a perfect world. But this is far from a perfect world. Kurt is right that everyone wants a balanced budget, but nobody wants to make any cuts that effect them (or even one day will effect them). Elon seems to be delusional that there's some constituency out there for taking a chainsaw to SS.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 11:34 AM (iFTx/)

96 Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:34 AM (77rzZ)

97 Musk being an engineer looks at every problem as solvable. Political problems, not so much. Thus, his frustration and meltdown. FWIW I doubt his 3rd party idea will gain any further traction than it currently has.

Which isn't much.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:35 AM (Q4IgG)

98 I saw he was imaging one of his tunnels from the USA to the UK - holy crap, what a bad idea. Why would we want to make it easier for "Brits" to get to our country.

*By "Brits" I mean the new 'Yookay' https://x.com/MythoYookay
Posted by: Lizzy
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Basically sci fi at this point due to plate tectonics. Boring would do better doing what it is doing--focusing on tunnelling in cities for services and roads, etc.
Posted by: whig

Mars. Musk wants to go to Mars. Tunnel boring on Mars. Underground cities.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:35 AM (8v2yu)

99 I don't think the Right has rejected him, because a lot of what he wants to get done is what the Right wants too. In a perfect world. But this is far from a perfect world. Kurt is right that everyone wants a balanced budget, but nobody wants to make any cuts that effect them (or even one day will effect them). Elon seems to be delusional that there's some constituency out there for taking a chainsaw to SS.

See my #92. An engineer wants 100% right, or people die. A politician knows that isn't possible in his world, so gets what he can, and then goes back for more.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:35 AM (Riz8t)

100 In order to displace ICE vehicles, it would take the building of nuclear power generation plants in pretty much every state to handle the load.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Things are moving that way anyway. Saw projections of the next gen AI models--some of the projected projects require up to three full scale nuke plants to power them. Since AI is hot, the techlords have realized that solar, wind, and all the other bullshit won't serve base loads for these plants. That means nukes. Fortunately, some of the Green Nude Eel money can be reprogrammed into spurring a renaissance of American nuke power along with Trump's three EOs that cut through some of the bullshit. Some favorable aftermath of Scotus decisions helps.

Because of model degradation, AI companies are basically retraining new models constantly which is the largest initial suck of energy and comp time resources.

Beyond my paygrade to figure out whether fixing decaying models or continuing to build new models with new data by scaling is something that can be consistently done. But that is what all the big AI companies are projecting as necessary.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:35 AM (ctrM5)

101 For energy density and ease of handling ? Its mighty tough to beat a gallon of gas.
Posted by: Doug Roberts

My inner 10 year old is thinking up fart jokes.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 11:35 AM (KAi1n)

102 One Farley is famous for being a buffoon. The other is a decaeased comic actor.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 11, 2025 11:36 AM (sOfnX)

103 Everything is fake, and gay. Not merely manufactured consent, a veritable smorgasbord of phony preferences and polls, opinions, “nudging” and the rest of it.

I noticed this morning, it finally dawned on me, my “Favorites” listed for my online grocery store shopping cart at the tail end include a huge swath of vegetables, grapes, yogurt &c. Some Algorithm somewhere isn’t happy with my overall food selections, apparently. Or probably automatic.

At this point in society, I suggest you believe nothing you are told, and maybe half of what you see.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2025 11:36 AM (+0VYM)

104 96 I don't think the Right has rejected him, because a lot of what he wants to get done is what the Right wants too. In a perfect world. But this is far from a perfect world. Kurt is right that everyone wants a balanced budget, but nobody wants to make any cuts that effect them (or even one day will effect them). Elon seems to be delusional that there's some constituency out there for taking a chainsaw to SS.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 11, 2025 11:34 AM (iFTx/)

======

*cough* affect *cough*

If Elon wants to primary GOPers who are preventing rescission packages, I wish him luck.

But making Massie, who did nothing to improve the OBBB while on the Rules committee, his cornerstone of a new political party is just...weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)

105 Mars. Musk wants to go to Mars. Tunnel boring on Mars. Underground cities.
Posted by: rickb223
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Mebbe but Musk is talking about Boring projects on Earf not Mars at present. Creative types often have very volatile personalities.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:37 AM (ctrM5)

106 and $5 billion for Scout Motors to produce extended-range EVs.

Extended-range is sales speak for a tow bar on the front.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2025 11:37 AM (BIMpQ)

107 @101

>>Things are moving that way anyway.

Sure, but they will have to decide which is more important and I think AI wins out over EV's.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:37 AM (XV/Pl)

108 Want to know the energy potential in a gallon of gas? Go push your car 20 miles.

Posted by: Weasel at July 11, 2025 11:38 AM (idFWj)

109 Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.
——

Maybe ugly is not the right word. Definitely weird though. Like Mad Max meets De Lorean?

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2025 11:39 AM (gzzK/)

110 So if the Right is not rejecting him right now and what he has been proposing and his own rejection of Trump that means they are accepting him or neutral?

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:39 AM (VofaG)

111 It's not just them. Ed Martin, the head of the DNC, welcomes violent anti-semites into his party's "big tent". I wonder when he'll give a big hug to the Einsatzgruppen.

https://is.gd/ySIZhj
Posted by: Archimedes
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Well, that too is similar only differing in targets. Fire Eaters were notorious for their dismissal of black personhood and comparing them to various animals. They continued in this strain well into the 20th century.

Upper class 'strivers' are often the source of woes in a society because they are not getting to the top like they think they should. So they usually try to burn it all down rather than suffer a blow to their fortunes.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:40 AM (ctrM5)

112 Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:29 AM (ctrM5)

Anyone who pays any attention to me (basically you) knows that I have been adamant that all one has to do is look at a pie chart of the budget and see that significant cuts will never occur until there is literally no money left to fake, steal or print, which will be around the 38th of never.

Just look at the pie chart. Waste fraud etc is great, cut the shit out of it. But it won't make a pimple on a pig's dick dent in anything at all. Not until you want to cut the military and "entitlements".

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 11:40 AM (Qr870)

113 I live in a state (NYS) where EV's are mandated, starting in just a few short years and only EV's of all types by 2033-2035. Even the big trucks and probably farm equipment, firetrucks etc. Will they hold to that mandate, come hell or high water I can't see Kathy H. changing it. I know California is now unable to push for the mandate, does that include other states that follow California.

Posted by: Coliin at July 11, 2025 11:40 AM (wlQdF)

114 Though I do agree ... all this BBB does is add more debt. More debt isn't suddenly good because Trump signs it.

There is iron in your words of death, HOWEVER, as Schlichter says, BBB is an attempt to change the policies and ways of doing things that put us on this path to insolvency, while later bills will deal with the existing expenditures more severely. IOW, Trump is patching the holes in the bucket first.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:40 AM (Riz8t)

115
~bat-bat-bat,, bat, BAT-BAT~

Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes at July 11, 2025 11:41 AM (5hfjS)

116 Mars. Musk wants to go to Mars. Tunnel boring on Mars. Underground cities.
Posted by: rickb223
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Mebbe but Musk is talking about Boring projects on Earf not Mars at present. Creative types often have very volatile personalities.
Posted by: whig

That was a total WAG.
Perfect it here, deploy it there.
I have no idea if that's what he's thinking, but that's what Tesla and SpaceX are geared for.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:41 AM (8v2yu)

117 112 So if the Right is not rejecting him right now and what he has been proposing and his own rejection of Trump that means they are accepting him or neutral?

Posted by: polynikes
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I have nothing against Musk but that does not speak for those that he had harsh words with or behaved outrageously toward in person.

Thinking you bought or own the government for whatever you did to put it into power is never wise as centuries of monarchs versus key nobles should have told him.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:42 AM (ctrM5)

118 ~bat-bat-bat,, bat, BAT-BAT~

Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes

I think she's more of an owl, with the eye feathers making almost no noise.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:42 AM (Riz8t)

119 So far, the only planetary object that where we have successfully landed a craft with human and returned is the moon, and round trip journey to the moon is 6-12 days.

The theoretically minimum round trip from Mars is 18 months, and max is 3 years.

And currently, we have never sent something to mars and returned it to the earth.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:42 AM (XV/Pl)

120 That was a total WAG.
Perfect it here, deploy it there.
I have no idea if that's what he's thinking, but that's what Tesla and SpaceX are geared for.
Posted by: rickb223
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I would call that a very shrewd guess.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:43 AM (ctrM5)

121 121 And currently, we have never sent something to mars and returned it to the earth.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:42 AM (XV/Pl)

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What about Matt Damon, huh?

Check and mate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)

122 I don't think going to Mars is pointless. A lot of resources out in space. Musk driving down costs is essential to make it worthwhile, and what works for Mars will work for the moon. Better that USA entrepreneurs get there before the Chinese.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 11:43 AM (Dv3i1)

123 Just look at the pie chart. Waste fraud etc is great, cut the shit out of it. But it won't make a pimple on a pig's dick dent in anything at all. Not until you want to cut the military and "entitlements".
Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 11:40 AM (Qr870)

I've heard a lot of expressions in my 29 years of life -- but this is the first ever instance of "pimple on a pig's dick". So, um -- thanks??

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 11:43 AM (5jU2p)

124 I have nothing against Musk but that does not speak for those that he had harsh words with or behaved outrageously toward in person.

Thinking you bought or own the government for whatever you did to put it into power is never wise as centuries of monarchs versus key nobles should have told him.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:42 AM (ctrM5)

Elon risked a ton thinking there was a great opportunity.

Him lashing out was stupid, but I won't blame him for feeling aggrieved at where things ended up.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 11:43 AM (j/vBG)

125 noticed this morning, it finally dawned on me, my “Favorites” listed for my online grocery store shopping cart at the tail end include a huge swath of vegetables, grapes, yogurt &c. Some Algorithm somewhere isn’t happy with my overall food selections, apparently. Or probably automatic.

Crickets, grasshoppers.......

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 11:43 AM (trxpo)

126 "Volkswagen confirmed to buyers after the vessel was lost that its highly sought-after ID.4 electric SUVs were among the cars lost"

Highly sought after? Sooooo 2022. Not anymore!

Posted by: Craig Pirrong at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (vFerH)

127 Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.
——

Maybe ugly is not the right word.

Definitely weird though. Like Mad Max meets De Lorean?
Posted by: Common Tater

Like kindergarten drawing meets Lego.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (8v2yu)

128 Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 11:43 AM (5jU2p)

Definitely not mine

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (Qr870)

129 > If Elon wants to primary GOPers who are preventing rescission packages, I wish him luck.

But making Massie, who did nothing to improve the OBBB while on the Rules committee, his cornerstone of a new political party is just...weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)
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I would support a real effort to primary GOP RINO's. It would take a lot of money to do it. Musk has a lot of money. And a grudge.

I would not support a 3rd party under Musk's direction, or Massie's. Or about anyone else.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (Q4IgG)

130 130 Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.
——

Maybe ugly is not the right word.

Definitely weird though. Like Mad Max meets De Lorean?
Posted by: Common Tater

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*waves seductively*
-Lena Dunham

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)

131 78 In order to displace ICE vehicles, it would take the building of nuclear power generation plants in pretty much every state to handle the load.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)

We should proba ly be doing that anyway. The number of things needing power is increasing every day, we need to at least try to make supply outpace demand.

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (/BLT9)

132 Just waiting for the day when one of those electric vehicles ignites on one of the big ferries between Vancouver and Vancouver Island, or Seattle and the Islands.

Full evacuation, loss of all the other vehicles, and then new rules--no electric vehicles allowed. Industry killer.

Posted by: Kevin Canuck at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (/xmMU)

133 The theoretically minimum round trip from Mars is 18 months, and max is 3 years.

And currently, we have never sent something to mars and returned it to the earth.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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I think the engineering is solid enough to do just that, it is just that no one wants to pay the cost for it yet.

Easier if you have lunar or orbital bases to launch such missions because of the gravity well here.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (ctrM5)

134 Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:42 AM (ctrM5

It's not what you think . It's what Musk thinks . He believes he was rejected by Trump and a large contingent of the Congressional GOP .

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (VofaG)

135 Like kindergarten drawing meets Lego.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (8v2yu)

Reminds me of Playstation 1

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (Qr870)

136 Musk isn't young enough to get humans to Mars. He's in his 50's. Assuming he lives long enough to even see humans land on Mars, he'll be doing it from his retirement home.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (KAi1n)

137 Want to know the energy potential in a gallon of gas? Go push your car 20 miles.
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Yes! I’ve been saying this for years. Load it up good, with 2000 pounds in f stuff, too. Uphill the whole way. In July when it is 97 degrees.

You’ll get paid four (4) dollars. You can explain energy density to people. Cost of energy inputs on EVERYTHING else. Lay everything out. After you’re done they always whine…

“Yeah, but still”…. One idiot simply declared that it’s time to move on, because of the age of the oil and gas technology.

No argument from me per se, but they forgot about the part you have to invent a reliable replacement first. These people are insane, and have a death wish. Those at the top understand what they are doing.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2025 11:45 AM (P55mL)

138
What about hemp powered cars made out of hemp?
Posted by: Boss Moss

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I like it! Disposable cars. Suitable for mulching.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 11:45 AM (UmB+t)

139 all this BBB does is add more debt.
____

It prevented my current tax rate from increasing, which is not insignificant to me. So there's that.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 11:45 AM (Dv3i1)

140 Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.
——

Maybe ugly is not the right word. Definitely weird though. Like Mad Max meets De Lorean?

Calling it a 'truck' is what makes me instinctively reject it. Shallow, I know. Calling it the Cyber De Lorean might have been cool.

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2025 11:45 AM (emDE2)

141 > Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.
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There's one around here that's been painted black. It has some serious Darth Vader vibes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)

142 @124

>>What about Matt Damon, huh? Check and mate.

I'll tell you, he didn't just eat potatoes, IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)

143 I would support a real effort to primary GOP RINO's. It would take a lot of money to do it. Musk has a lot of money. And a grudge.

I would not support a 3rd party under Musk's direction, or Massie's. Or about anyone else.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

So did Bloomberg. He tried to buy the Dem nomination. Elon had a choice, he can try to create a new party which will take several cycles to do (see Reform for an example) and a LOT of money. Or he could have tried to primary what he saw as obstacles to clear cutting the federal debt (not all of them are what I would call RINOs).

Trying to do both is guaranteed to not work out well.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5)

144 I can't explain it, but I find myself interested in Korean golf.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XGoRLbefdFI?feature=share

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)

145 145 @124

>>What about Matt Damon, huh? Check and mate.

I'll tell you, he didn't just eat potatoes, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)

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You'd be wrong.

Because...

I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:48 AM (GBKbO)

146 117
~bat-bat-bat,, bat, BAT-BAT~
Posted by: Jasmine Crocketts' Eye Lashes at July 11, 2025 11:41 AM

Here. Have a drink.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at July 11, 2025 11:48 AM (XQo4F)

147 > Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.
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There's one around here that's been painted black. It has some serious Darth Vader vibes.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 11:46 AM (Q4IgG)

Probably had a red door once

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 11:49 AM (5jU2p)

148 What about hemp powered cars made out of hemp?
Posted by: Boss Moss

I saw that Cheech & Chong movie!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:49 AM (8v2yu)

149 142 all this BBB does is add more debt.
____

It prevented my current tax rate from increasing, which is not insignificant to me. So there's that.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 11:45 AM (Dv3i1)

It raised debt, but not by further redistributing wealth from the middle class to others...so that's a win...

And the debt was always getting raised with Trump's previous tax cuts getting extended...in theory, I believe the debt is rising less than just a pure extension and status quo everywhere would have raised it...so that's an even bigger win...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 11:49 AM (tOcjL)

150 >What about Matt Damon, huh? Check and mate.

I'll tell you, he didn't just eat potatoes, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:47 AM (XV/Pl)

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The wind storm on Mars totally took me out of the story.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:49 AM (VofaG)

151 146 So did Bloomberg. He tried to buy the Dem nomination. Elon had a choice, he can try to create a new party which will take several cycles to do (see Reform for an example) and a LOT of money. Or he could have tried to primary what he saw as obstacles to clear cutting the federal debt (not all of them are what I would call RINOs).

Trying to do both is guaranteed to not work out well.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:47 AM (ctrM5)

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If he's serious about a third party, I suggest short term goals of getting a hundred or so state legislators elected next year and upwards of 5 federal House members. In 2028, aim for 300 state legislators and 25 House members, 2 Senators, and 1-3 governors.

Continue this slow growth over about 20 years until you have the political base to challenge for the presidency with at least a third of the House in your party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

152 Going to Mars is stupid, pointless and a vanity project.
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No it's not. Exploration is in the human genome. I want to see humans on Mars and on the moon and on Europa. I'm curious. I want to see different places. I want to walk on the ground of these places.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 11:50 AM (g8Ew8)

153 Cybertruck = electric El Camino.

Posted by: Put astroturf in the back at July 11, 2025 11:50 AM (XQo4F)

154 Its got 114k miles and runs like a top.

Spins really fast in one location and then falls over?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 11:50 AM (ExV1e)

155 If EVs keep being A Thing, I foresee the return of the carriage house/detatched garage as desirable property element for those who own them.
Posted by: FeatherBlade

My last house had one, and I miss it. Much lower homeowners' insurance, too.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (Vfq+S)

156 I don't have any objection to going to Mars. But we might want to try going to the moon first.

Posted by: It's Made of Cheese at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (y+qgR)

157 No it's not. Exploration is in the human genome. I want to see humans on Mars and on the moon and on Europa. I'm curious. I want to see different places. I want to walk on the ground of these places.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 11:50 AM (g8Ew

Yeah, I'll keep my feet on Mother Earth - thanks. Lots and lots of places I need to explore here 1st...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (tOcjL)

158 Von Braun had plans (in the early 60s) for an early 1980s manned Mars mission, as it was the next “window” for optimal launch time in terms of distance.

Very dangerous indeed. They could have probably pulled it off. Congress, and Sen. William Proxmire killed the “clearly leading role” the US had in space.

Sometimes I think it was clearly sabotage. We were told by the media, that Americans weren’t interested in space or the moon any longer. The networks wouldn’t cover it.

But maybe they were bullshitting us. They lie about everything. Why not that? Apollo was dangerous as hell, but the alternative wasn’t simply to kill the whole thing. The absolute waste is unbelievable.

They can’t even orbit the moon. Complete failure on NASA

Posted by: Common Tater at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (XeHN6)

159 Probably had a red door once
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 11:49 AM

ISWYDT.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (kgE5c)

160 Operations for directional boring rigs is spotty at best. However long long they say it will take, multiply by.at least 3. Spare parts, insane working conditions, etc.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (trxpo)

161 159 I don't have any objection to going to Mars. But we might want to try going to the moon first.
Posted by: It's Made of Cheese at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (y+qgR)

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The light side is double stilton. The dark side is an Italian bleu cheese.

Only some will enjoy the mining process.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)

162 What about Matt Damon, huh? Check and mate.

I'll tell you, he didn't just eat potatoes, IYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

What would be easier? Sending up 100's of cloth covered pre-fab units to create flimsy buildings, ala Matt Damon, or a piece together a boring machine and make a virtually impenetrable cave?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:52 AM (8v2yu)

163 I pass 2 8 stall (1 for Tesla, 1 for ??)charging stations cutting thru the Target lot on my way to the gas station. When I come back from filling up my car, the same cars are sitting there, no matter the weather, for who knows how long.

I laugh every time
Posted by: Bruce at July 11, 2025 11:05 AM (BHLaI)

I’m pissed because my favorite grocery store recently installed a shit ton of Tesla chargers. It was a small lot to begin with and it really screwed up my parking. And I never see it being used. I’m guessing they got some Biden Bucks for it.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2025 11:52 AM (03kKB)

164 It's because the need or desire for EV's is not organic. Even if you are all in, there is no infrastructure to support the retarded Biden mandates.

Posted by: Pamazon at July 11, 2025 11:52 AM (b5MGU)

165 Start a third political party?
I'm all ears.

Posted by: Ross Perot at July 11, 2025 11:52 AM (XQo4F)

166 Maybe that is why those moon landers keep falling over.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 11:52 AM (bvNHo)

167 So I'm told locally that all the onions grown in a valley near me will never get picked. No one wants to do that work, and its all Trumps fault of course. I have driven by the fields and onions are almost ready to be picked (I think) big ones. Hugh fields with onions. Oh, the humanity of it all. Western NY, not NYC!

Posted by: Coliin at July 11, 2025 11:53 AM (wlQdF)

168 In order to displace ICE vehicles, it would take the building of nuclear power generation plants in pretty much every state to handle the load.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 11:28 AM (XV/Pl)

We should proba ly be doing that anyway. The number of things needing power is increasing every day, we need to at least try to make supply outpace demand.

Posted by: tankdemon

Yes, what we need are 2,000 aircraft carrier sized reactors spread around the country, supplying power to their region.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 11, 2025 11:53 AM (Vfq+S)

169 143 Nothing is uglier than a Cybertruck.
——
Calling it a 'truck' is what makes me instinctively reject it. Shallow, I know. Calling it the Cyber De Lorean might have been cool.

would've needed gull-wing doors, though. on the upside, plenty of space for mr. fusion...

Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2025 11:53 AM (v3pYe)

170 142 all this BBB does is add more debt.
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Actually no. Ignore the stupid CBO scoring which is what most people are figuring on when they say that. CBO treated all the current tax cuts as expense and adding to the debt. But if the US had a massive tax increase due to expiration of these cuts (which have been the law since 2017 btw) in 2026, it might well have put the US into recession costs far more in welfare spending and benefits.

CBO scoring is NOT dynamic and does not try to fix the obvious problem. Raising taxes beyond a certain point produces less revenue and slower and slower (if not negative) economic growth. That means more and more costs for entitlements.

UK is in that trap and it is probably coming close to a massive wipeout of Labor because of it.

Second is the debt limit which a lot of people confuse with more debt. A) it has and will be increased as needed period. Default would skyrocket the deficit by raising interest rates for government debt. B) all it does is allow Treasury to do what is necessary on raising funds which is dependent on revenues/economic conditions/spending and the damn stupid Fed which is keeping interest rates far too high.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:53 AM (ctrM5)

171 Probably had a red door once
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 11:49 AM

ISWYDT.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (kgE5c)

*grins*

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 11:53 AM (5jU2p)

172 170 So I'm told locally that all the onions grown in a valley near me will never get picked. No one wants to do that work, and its all Trumps fault of course. I have driven by the fields and onions are almost ready to be picked (I think) big ones. Hugh fields with onions. Oh, the humanity of it all. Western NY, not NYC!
Posted by: Coliin at July 11, 2025 11:53 AM (wlQdF)

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Farmers should know about this piece of machinery, then.

https://turbotopharvester.com/

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:54 AM (GBKbO)

173 170 So I'm told locally that all the onions grown in a valley near me will never get picked. No one wants to do that work, and its all Trumps fault of course. I have driven by the fields and onions are almost ready to be picked (I think) big ones. Hugh fields with onions. Oh, the humanity of it all. Western NY, not NYC!

Posted by: Coliin at July 11, 2025 11:53 AM (wlQdF)

Put out a notice to the local homeschooling community that they can come and pick the onions and keep 1/2 of what they pick...there won't be any left within the week...

Posted by: Nova Local at July 11, 2025 11:54 AM (tOcjL)

174 Its got 114k miles and runs like a top.

Spins really fast in one location and then falls over?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I'll take "what is a Pinto" for $400 Alex.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:54 AM (8v2yu)

175 I don't have any objection to going to Mars. But we might want to try going to the moon first.
Posted by: It's Made of Cheese

Well, the giant mutant tardigrades that the Israelis sent up there could make things difficult for us.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:55 AM (77rzZ)

176 But maybe they were bullshitting us. They lie about everything. Why not that? Apollo was dangerous as hell, but the alternative wasn’t simply to kill the whole thing. The absolute waste is unbelievable.

They can’t even orbit the moon. Complete failure on NASA
Posted by: Common Tater
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Nixon did it because to him the Space program was a Democrat program of JFK and LBJ. Nixon also did the stupid ABM treaty. Nixon is a perfect example of a guy who was very smart but unable to see the forest for the trees. Not visionary and horrible on domestic affairs.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:56 AM (ctrM5)

177 So I'm told locally that all the onions grown in a valley near me will never get picked. No one wants to do that work, and its all Trumps fault of course. I have driven by the fields and onions are almost ready to be picked (I think) big ones. Hugh fields with onions. Oh, the humanity of it all. Western NY, not NYC!
Posted by: Coliin

You had that many wetbacks in WNYS?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:56 AM (8v2yu)

178 The China Observer reports, "In the first four months of 2025, China's car exports to Russia plummeted to just 155,000 units, nearly half of the 305,000 units sold during the same period in 2024. April alone saw a dramatic 70% drop in sales, marking a sharp decline from the previous high."

It seems that the post sale support is a major issue. These include a lack of service locations, mechanics, and parts.

https://youtu.be/IfnLcRLzsaw

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 11:56 AM (NXz8h)

179 Musk isn't young enough to get humans to Mars. He's in his 50's. Assuming he lives long enough to even see humans land on Mars, he'll be doing it from his retirement home.
Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 11:44 AM (KAi1n)
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Well, if he does a brain upload into cyberspace, which may be one of his goals, he could "live" a lot longer, I suppose.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 11:56 AM (7fElN)

180 180 You had that many wetbacks in WNYS?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 11:56 AM (8v2yu)

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"Yes."
-Biden's middle of the night flights throughout the country for 3+ years

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:56 AM (GBKbO)

181 I don't have any objection to going to Mars. But we might want to try going to the moon first.
Posted by: It's Made of Cheese at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (y+qgR)

Pffft. You believe in the moon??

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 11:57 AM (5jU2p)

182 No argument from me per se, but they forgot about the part you have to invent a reliable replacement first.

The response is that they don't want us to have replacements. They just want cars gone.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 11:57 AM (lXoJ5)

183 I like the cyber truck. I didn’t at first, but it’s cool. It’s the polar opposite of the retro look of my car.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 11:57 AM (p4NUW)

184 I have driven by the fields and onions are almost ready to be picked (I think) big ones. Hugh fields with onions. Oh, the humanity of it all. Western NY, not N

employers have used temporary visas since forever to accomplish the work they need done, whether in agriculture, landscaping, restaurant biz, what have you. They come in for a work visa for as long as the employer needs them, then they go home.
Lather, rinse, repeat

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:57 AM (dCxaZ)

185 I'll take "what is a Pinto" for $400 Alex.
Posted by: rickb223

People always get this wrong. People could tell Alex that they'll take a particular category. "What is a Pinto" would be the response that a player gives to a clue. They didn't need to "take" that from Alex.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

186 187 employers have used temporary visas since forever to accomplish the work they need done, whether in agriculture, landscaping, restaurant biz, what have you. They come in for a work visa for as long as the employer needs them, then they go home.
Lather, rinse, repeat
Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:57 AM (dCxaZ)

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"But I have to pay for housing if I do it legal. Better to do it illegally and not pay for housing."
-that farmer, apparently

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)

187 NASA started by Ike.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:58 AM (VofaG)

188 Trump wrote the book on how to win with a third party. The Uniparty has a David Carradine Vulcan Death grip on our electoral process. They have six ways to Sunday of putting third parties down. So you have to take over one of the parties, like the commies are doing with the Democrats.

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 11:58 AM (Qr870)

189 Ford built another Huge EV plant in Sheffield Lake, OH. I’m betting ZERO units get built.

Posted by: TrainmanTim at July 11, 2025 11:58 AM (lycPY)

190 I watched the potato harvesting in western NY, by the Gennesee River. Dump truck loads.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 11:59 AM (trxpo)

191 How come EV's don't come with warning labels on them like cigarettes telling us how dangerous and toxic they are?

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2025 12:00 PM (KtOUo)

192 THese new EV plants are going to have to go emergency retrofits for gasoline engines. I can see some hybrids may be successful, those have a far better record than the pure evs do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 12:00 PM (uWKK8)

193 I watched the potato harvesting in western NY, by the Gennesee River. Dump truck loads.

My brethren!
-- Tater Stelter

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 12:01 PM (77rzZ)

194 Don’t get me started on Mach-Es.
I own at 98 Mustang GT. Ford’s management team are idiots!

Posted by: TrainmanTim at July 11, 2025 12:01 PM (lycPY)

195 it is not so much the ev thing with tesla, it more the smart driving and associated technology, whether or not youre a fan of eves the tech is unmatched

Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 12:01 PM (XI9+E)

196 the temporary visa program for migrant farm workers is the H-2A

https://tinyurl.com/4j2xutss

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

197 wh is somebody buying an ev from a mfr they would not buy ice from?

Posted by: n at July 11, 2025 12:02 PM (XI9+E)

198 199 the temporary visa program for migrant farm workers is the H-2A

https://tinyurl.com/4j2xutss
Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

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Question:

Are unaccompanied children in country illegally allowed to apply for this visa?

Asking for a marijuana farm in CA.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:02 PM (GBKbO)

199 "There may be an uptick in EV sales in Q3 due to manufacturers desperately discounting their glut of unsold electric vehicles before the tax credit goes away. In fact, they’d better make those vehicles go away in Q3, because any unsold EVs on dealer lots on October 1 will become un-moveable boat anchors."

In Russia, EVs in certain cases were being unloaded with a 2 for 1 sale. Chicom cars are junk and have little to no support after the sale. Russian dealers are getting wiped out.

Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at July 11, 2025 12:02 PM (NXz8h)

200 Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)

Yes . I always called it the migrant farm worker temporary visa .

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)

201 Continue this slow growth over about 20 years until you have the political base to challenge for the presidency with at least a third of the House in your party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Given Durverget's Law, I just don't see a path forward unless one of the major parties collapses like the Federalists' swan dive or the collapse of the Whig party. Both of those left a vacuum to be filled. If you want to read some excellent historical and game theoretic research on it--Look up Aldrich's Why Parties Book. For social science, very well done with triangulated analysis techniques and applying them to why and how American political parties (first past the post/majority) operated and will operate in the future absent changes in the electoral system.

There are also funding problems in what Musk wants to do. Perot or even Trump could spend unrestricted amounts of money on their campaigns. Musk is limited because not a presidential candidate, he is limited in how much he can contribute. He can contribute to the sky on his own candidacy for governor or senator but not to a political party. Running it a virtual superpac facsimile is doomed to failure.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (ctrM5)

202 BMW is investing imperial fucktons of $ in a battery plant in Woodfuff, SC.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (trxpo)

203 A company that I did consulting for, EVBox, was a European based manufacturer of electric vehicle charging stations. It shut down its Libertyville, IL plant after a big investment from the Eurotrash and the Eurotrash wannabees in Illinois. They stiffed me so I was glad to see them fold.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (qwx/I)

204 THese new EV plants are going to have to go emergency retrofits for gasoline engines. I can see some hybrids may be successful, those have a far better record than the pure evs do.

Posted by: Tom Servo

They can haul their mothballed stamping machines to them and start making parts in the US again.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (Vfq+S)

205
BMW is investing imperial fucktons of $ in a battery plant in Woodfuff, SC.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

===============

They must be looking for a tax writeoff. They write it off, Jerry!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 11, 2025 12:04 PM (UmB+t)

206 194 How come EV's don't come with warning labels on them like cigarettes telling us how dangerous and toxic they are?

this comment is known by the state of california to cause cancer in laboratory animals.

Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2025 12:04 PM (v3pYe)

207 204 There are also funding problems in what Musk wants to do. Perot or even Trump could spend unrestricted amounts of money on their campaigns. Musk is limited because not a presidential candidate, he is limited in how much he can contribute. He can contribute to the sky on his own candidacy for governor or senator but not to a political party. Running it a virtual superpac facsimile is doomed to failure.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:03 PM (ctrM5)

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On my timeline, he wouldn't need to spend billions of dollars in the next year.

Max he'd need is probably $50 million.

That should be easily gettable from a donor network, especially if he has other billionaires like Mark Cuban interested.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

208 I suspect the residential neighborhood fruit vendors , icee bicycles and taco trucks are illegals here in Sacramento.
There are not a lot but question: where do they pee and #2 at and wash?

Are they scouts sizing us up?

It's third world and I don't like it.

Posted by: torabora at July 11, 2025 12:05 PM (KtOUo)

209 202 BMW is investing imperial fucktons of $ in a battery plant in Woodfuff, SC.

wood fuff is best fuff

Posted by: anachronda at July 11, 2025 12:06 PM (v3pYe)

210 EVs are neat toys. Like scooters. But they are not a great choice as a lifestyle. Unless you never travel far from your home.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 11, 2025 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

211 nood ice shooting (a new one)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)

212 I've got a Chinese company USA based golf cart.

Evolution. They are 40% less expensive and have double the warranty years on the battery.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 12:07 PM (VofaG)

213 FWIW, for all the calls that Trump threatened to go 3rd Party, he did not do that because he had already run as the Reform Party candidate in 2000 briefly and saw from the inside the dysfunction that these movements bring. Plus the federalized and decentralized US election system makes it much harder than in a parliamentary unitary system like the UK for a third party to suddenly shove one or the other major party into the ditch. Liberals had it done to them by Labor post WWI, and Reform is threatening to do it to Conservatives next election, but you only have to have a slate and nexus of workers, advertising agencies, etc. for a NATIONAL election.

The US, instead, has 50 separate state elections where two parties are institutionalized by law into running the elections and in some cases, the elections themselves are not synchronized.

Hard to pull off for someone not a Presidential candidate--even for a past president like Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:08 PM (ctrM5)

214 181 I don't have any objection to going to Mars. But we might want to try going to the moon first.
Posted by: It's Made of Cheese at July 11, 2025 11:51 AM (y+qgR)

Pffft. You believe in the moon??

handy if you suddenly need some cheese

Posted by: wallace & gromit at July 11, 2025 12:10 PM (v3pYe)

215 On my timeline, he wouldn't need to spend billions of dollars in the next year.

Max he'd need is probably $50 million.

That should be easily gettable from a donor network, especially if he has other billionaires like Mark Cuban interested.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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He would need a lot more than that. Workers, GOTV, etc. Running adverts is not really the problem--the problem is getting voters that favor you to the polls and Musk is simply not that charismatic. Neither is Cuban.

I think you are underestimating how much power that local party establishments have in states and are looking at it from a generic national election ideal.

Back in the day, the Koch brothers spent megabucks trying to make the Libertarian Party a thing. And for a substantial length of time. But it never developed deep roots because top down never creates a deep party structure nor does it particularly compel a message other than these other two parties are for losers.

Musk does not have a compelling idea of politics bu the usual engineering attitude if I build it, the voters will come. Instead, what you get is what the other two parties don't want--the cranks, the losers, the washed up.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 12:13 PM (ctrM5)

216 We should build cheese mines on the moon first.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 12:16 PM (bvNHo)

Mid-Morning Art Thread

Waiting For Dad
Winslow Homer

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

Comments

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1 BOING!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (4tvN6)

2 Would hang even though there is no dog!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (hOUT3)

3 Good morning, Horde, nice summer picture.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (0nHVk)

4 I hope the kid's name isn't Short John Silver.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (4tvN6)

5 Unfinished painting, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (GBKbO)

6 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (NcvvS)

7
He's done better.

Pass.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (Tv15w)

8 I guess a half a boat is better than no boat.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 09:32 AM (snZF9)

9 I can relate.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:32 AM (viF8m)

10 Waiting for dad to...??

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 09:32 AM (5jU2p)

11 Would have been better with a puppy under the boat. I'll keep this one.

😊

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 09:32 AM (89Sog)

12 Dad's barque is worse than his bite.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:32 AM (dDmld)

13 Well, except for Biden's Dog that was lurking behind the dory!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 11, 2025 09:33 AM (hOUT3)

14 Needs a shark.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 09:33 AM (NpAcC)

15
Is she sporting a bun in the oven?

Someone here would eventually go there -- it might as well have been me.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:33 AM (Tv15w)

16 Did Dad sail off to get cigarettes?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2025 09:33 AM (bss/y)

17 The young man was angry that day, my friends...

Posted by: George Costanza at July 11, 2025 09:33 AM (XQo4F)

18 Dad is out there on one of the fancy sailboats with fancy women, booze, and some gay ass yacht rock. Tough luck kid.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 11, 2025 09:34 AM (snZF9)

19 There was a lot of Nautical art around the house when I was a kid. Little boats on dry land etc.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:34 AM (bvNHo)

20 You can never go wrong with Homer. Thanks, CBD.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:34 AM (77rzZ)

21 It seems that painting gulls is quite easy at a distance.

Posted by: Percy the Pelican at July 11, 2025 09:34 AM (G5+As)

22 Somewhere out there a Great White is choking up toothpicks.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:34 AM (dDmld)

23 I like the see-through seagull.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 09:34 AM (Q4IgG)

24 What about mom?

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (NpAcC)

25 >>It seems that painting gulls is quite easy at a distance.

Yea, they get frisky when you get up close.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (viF8m)

26 It looks like an uncomfortable place to sit. Also, what is happening at far center right? Looks like he forgot to finish painting there.

I rate this as Meh, no hang.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (AOsQT)

27 Did Dad sail off to get cigarettes?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2025 09:33 AM (bss/y)

He's in some port on a western bay, enjoying some time with a fine girl named Brandy.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (5jU2p)

28 The thing that struck me hardest was not the painting but the title. Not "Waiting for His Return" or "Waiting for Father" or some equally detached phrase. Waiting for Dad. It imputes a much closer, emotional relationship than the boy being respectful to the family's breadwinner. Very sweet.

But lovely painting, too.

Posted by: red speck at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (0Id0S)

29 I bet dad's hanging with his yacht girls again.
Does mom even know?

Posted by: The boy at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (XQo4F)

30 Looks more like a magazine illustration than Art.

Also, no dog.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:36 AM (dDmld)

31 20 You can never go wrong with Homer. Thanks, CBD.
Posted by: Bulg

Yo Bulg!
A most cromulent comment!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 11, 2025 09:36 AM (hOUT3)

32 Oh, thank you!

Homer rocks, and this one is sweet -- a boy and a boat, and the great, big ocean before him. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:36 AM (GbwPZ)

33
Oh, that a boy-o sitting on a boat.

Never mind. Should have brought out my glasses.

Was that boat adjacent to the boat boneyard featured here earlier this week?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:36 AM (Tv15w)

34 That kid is sitting on Weird Dave's little dinghy! Must be Texas.

Posted by: Beach Cleanup Detail at July 11, 2025 09:36 AM (G5+As)

35 He's in some port on a western bay, enjoying some time with a fine girl named Brandy.
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (5jU2p)

I thought she was a fine girl, what a good wife she would be, but his life, his love and his lady is the sea?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (bss/y)

36 Well I was sittin’ on a schooner
Painted by Winslow Homer
My dad wasn’t a sight to see…

It was a girl holy cow
In a flat bottomed scow
Said your dad is lost at sea…

Comfort me eee
Comfort me eee
Captain Ned and
the Raging Queen…

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (03kKB)

37 The physics seems a little off.

Considering there’s only half a boat there you’d think the boy would be doing the teeter totter thing,

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (6ydKt)

38 Hrothgar! Great to see you!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (77rzZ)

39 24 >>What about mom?

She's the one who told the kid, "Wait till your father gets home..."

Posted by: red speck at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (0Id0S)

40 Dad goes in the water
Shark's in the water
....our shark

Posted by: Otto Pen at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (sJHOI)

41 I thought she was a fine girl, what a good wife she would be, but his life, his love and his lady is the sea?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (bss/y)

That's just what he tells Brandy so she doesn't realize that he's a family man and she's just a side piece.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (5jU2p)

42 You can never go Homer again.

Posted by: Or so I've heard at July 11, 2025 09:38 AM (XQo4F)

43 Dreaming of a Nantucket sleigh ride.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:38 AM (GbwPZ)

44 Alternate title: A young man watches as the Aral Sea refills.

It's gonna be awhile.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 09:38 AM (Riz8t)

45 24 What about mom?
Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 09:35 AM (NpAcC)

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She works layin' whiskey down.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:38 AM (dDmld)

46 You can never go wrong with Homer. Thanks, CBD.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:34 AM (77rzZ)

D’oh!

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (03kKB)

47 It’s not half a boat. It’s a whole boat, but we can only see half of it.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (77rzZ)

48 That little layabout is well past the age where he could be pulling nets and getting his fingers destroyed by fish hooks.

Put him to work!!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (cYBz/)

49 Looks like Matisse did the small bit under the gallows on the mid far-right

Posted by: Otto Pen at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (sJHOI)

50 How does a stick or branch hold up a boat like that?

Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (Oy/m2)

51 1 BOING!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (4tvN6)

Missed you on the tech thread!

Posted by: m at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (aURVT)

52 >>You can never go Homer again.

He's a-dory-ble!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:40 AM (GbwPZ)

53 >>a boy and a boat, and the great, big ocean before him. . .

The sailors say Brandy

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:40 AM (viF8m)

54
Given this week in art, we really need to have a serious conversation on the topic of abusing boats when they're brought ashore and why that's not just wrong, but bad wrong.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:40 AM (Tv15w)

55 47 It’s not half a boat. It’s a whole boat, but we can only see half of it.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (77rzZ)

Well there’s a big chunk missing from the side of the boat right above the log then.

Maybe it ran into Jaws.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:40 AM (6ydKt)

56 I kind of like the cartoony idyllic look.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:41 AM (bvNHo)

57 >>It’s not half a boat. It’s a whole boat, but we can only see half of it.

Yup - front end is propped up on a log.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:41 AM (GbwPZ)

58
When i get olde, I'm going fishing. Hope the sharks don't eat my catch.
-kid thinking about retirement and fishing

- totally not socking Hemingway

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2025 09:41 AM (QcUc+)

59 How does a stick or branch hold up a boat like that?
Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (Oy/m2)

It has to be the right kind of wood. Hickory dickory (dry) dock.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2025 09:41 AM (03kKB)

60 Sorry - the *bow* is propped up.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:42 AM (GbwPZ)

61 Waiting For Dad
Winslow Homer

*********

Coasting Through Life - a limerick

There once was a maritime lad
Stranded at low tide. So sad.
He cried with a screech,
"Gol durn sun on the beach!!
I shore do miss my dad!"

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:42 AM (poXs5)

62 The Aral is the one in Russia they drained to grow cotton?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:42 AM (bvNHo)

63 "Dad, I think I got the boat stuck."

Posted by: t-bird at July 11, 2025 09:42 AM (VfMZK)

64 He's gonna fall and end up in the hospital.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 09:43 AM (NpAcC)

65 20 You can never go wrong with Homer

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Don't Hector us with your personal opinions.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:43 AM (dDmld)

66

One Piece has entered the chat.

Posted by: Monkey D. Luffy - at July 11, 2025 09:43 AM (QcUc+)

67 Look like nothing's gonna change
Everything still remains the same
I can't do what ten people tell me to do
So I guess I'll remain the same

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 09:43 AM (RHGPo)

68 Waiting For Dad
Winslow Homer

The story lives on,
About the boat that went down,
And the people all died...
Bummer.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:43 AM (ExV1e)

69 Dad's passed out drunk in the boat.

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 11, 2025 09:43 AM (JWtAA)

70 The sea was placid that day, my friends.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:43 AM (77rzZ)

71 The bow is long on one side.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM (bvNHo)

72 I thought she was a fine girl, what a good wife she would be, but his life, his love and his lady is the sea?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 11, 2025 09:37 AM (bss/y)

That's just what he tells Brandy so she doesn't realize that he's a family man and she's just a side piece.

A great song. Perhaps our finest song.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM (Riz8t)

73 *That's just what he tells Brandy so she doesn't realize that he's a family man and she's just a side piece.*

But wait.
I'm wearing a braided chain made of finest silver from the North of Spain. And a locket that bears the name of the man that I love.

Posted by: Brandy at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM (XQo4F)

74

When did my nic/hash change to queue-cy ewe-cy?

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM (QcUc+)

75 My first thought on viewing this picture is to wonder how fast that kid had to have been rowing to end up where he did.

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM (poXs5)

76 Today is the anniversary of the RMBS Dad's passing. This one got me right in the feels, CBD.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 09:45 AM (kgE5c)

77
My own Dad started fishing during the summers with his father when he was in his early teens. Had the chiseled physique to show for it, too.

The fish tug in which they earned their living has been preserved through the graces of a family friend and now is part of a historical museum in the Midwest.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:45 AM (Tv15w)

78 This shore is a nice painting.

Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2025 09:45 AM (Oy/m2)

79 Thought bubble:

"All the other kids got jet skis!"

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:45 AM (poXs5)

80 62 The Aral is the one in Russia they drained to grow cotton?

Posted by: Boss Moss

Yup. Great plan.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 09:45 AM (Riz8t)

81 But wait.
I'm wearing a braided chain made of finest silver from the North of Spain. And a locket that bears the name of the man that I love.
Posted by: Brandy at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM (XQo4F)

Yeah. You should probably get an STD checkup.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:45 AM (ExV1e)

82 71 The bow is long on one side.
Posted by: Boss Moss

It's a longbow.

Posted by: Oh, no. Here we go... at July 11, 2025 09:45 AM (XQo4F)

83 71 The bow is long on one side.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM (bvNHo)

I’m gonna need some blueprints or a top down view to confirm this.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:46 AM (6ydKt)

84 Looks like he's waiting for the tide.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:46 AM (8v2yu)

85 But wait.
I'm wearing a braided chain made of finest silver from the North of Spain. And a locket that bears the name of the man that I love.
Posted by: Brandy at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM

I've got some bad news for you, Brandy...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 09:46 AM (kgE5c)

86 Don't Hector us with your personal opinions.
Posted by: Cicero

No one cares about my opinions, anyway, so it's uselysses to express them.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:46 AM (77rzZ)

87 Looks like he's waiting for the tide.

The entertainment options were limited in the old days.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (Riz8t)

88 >>Looks like he's waiting for the tide.

Just sittin' on the dock of the bay.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (viF8m)

89 Don’t know why, but this one makes me sad.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (mT+6a)

90 Looks like he's waiting for the tide.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:46 AM (8v2yu)

Time and Tide wait for no man.

Posted by: Admiral Commodore de Monet at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (wVcYX)

91 Unfinished watercolor.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (VofaG)

92 The bow is long on one side.
Posted by: Boss Moss

The chair is against the wall.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (8v2yu)

93 Why does he write his O as an I? W. HIMER

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (cduTK)

94 would hang

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (aBgBM)

95 Painting: No Hogarth Curve. Fail.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (TwZXH)

96 Suitable for hanging at the shore house.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (RIvkX)

97 It looks like Winslow started to paint something at the right side of the frame, and then said, "oh, to hell with it."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:48 AM (dDmld)

98 Melancholy even.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 09:48 AM (mT+6a)

99 I think it’s Huck Finn enjoying his latest round of destruction.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:48 AM (6ydKt)

100 Time and Tide wait for no man.
Posted by: Admiral Commodore de Monet at July 11, 2025 09:47 AM (wVcYX)

Not for you, maybe. -- King Canute

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:48 AM (ExV1e)

101
Boy-o knows that, long as he sits there, there'll be no keelhauling him with that craft.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:49 AM (Tv15w)

102 Painting: Kid wailing "Shane! Shane! I love you Shane! I love you!"

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:49 AM (TwZXH)

103 But wait.
I'm wearing a braided chain made of finest silver from the North of Spain. And a locket that bears the name of the man that I love.
Posted by: Brandy at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM

I've got some bad news for you, Brandy...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

He's chasing the girl from Ipanema.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:49 AM (8v2yu)

104 Melancholy even.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 09:48 AM

Ayuh.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 09:49 AM (kgE5c)

105 Why does he write his O as an I? W. HIMER
Posted by: banana Dream

He's from New York City, AKA Himertown?

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:50 AM (77rzZ)

106 Otis my man!

https://tinyurl.com/4ujf342x

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:50 AM (viF8m)

107 "He's chasing the girl from Ipanema."

Chase harder. She's in Greenland.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:50 AM (TwZXH)

108 >>> It looks like Winslow started to paint something at the right side of the frame, and then said, "oh, to hell with it."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 09:48 AM (dDmld)

He started the painting as a reclining nude on a chaise lounge but wasn't feeling it as no one brought butter for his muffin.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (cduTK)

109 He's chasing the girl from Ipanema.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:49 AM (8v2yu)

That when she passes
Each one she passes goes, "Ah"

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (6ydKt)

110 Alternate title: Cabin boy enjoys his day off.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (77rzZ)

111 Reminds me of this - another kind of waiting for a return from sea. . .
When Evening comes
Anytime now
Across the water
Miles deep

I'll fix my hair
He'll be here
Green and cold
Ages old

When Evening comes
Sailor mine. . .

https://tinyurl.com/4zmnr3sw

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (GbwPZ)

112 Missed you on the tech thread!

Posted by: m at July 11, 2025 09:39 AM (aURVT)
-

Friday's usually busy. Today was extra busy. We visited one of our pup couple's in their new home rental. Then back to Jerusalem and spent the afternoon cooking chicken and prepping sashimi.

Almost 5PM and only now are we enjoying our afternoon stove top brewed Columbian coffee.

And now off I go till tomorrow night.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (4tvN6)

113 Over 100 comments on a Homer thread and nobody has said, "Doh!"

Who are you people and what have you done with the Horde?

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (poXs5)

114 Melancholy even.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 11, 2025 09:48 AM

Ayuh.

Boy, stuck at home because he's too young to go to sea: This sucks!

Young to middle aged man, who has to spend every day on the boat, muscles aching, to pull up fish: This sucks!

Old man, too feeble to go to sea anymore: This sucks!

This uplifting message brought to you by Archimedes.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 09:52 AM (Riz8t)

115
Winslow's brother, Simpson, never advanced his artistic talents beyond doodling and other cartoonish pursuits. Had a thing for yellow, too.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:52 AM (Tv15w)

116 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (4tvN6)

Have a good one, man.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:52 AM (77rzZ)

117 Dad sneaks in from the left, surprises the kid so bad he falls off the bow.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:52 AM (TwZXH)

118 "...but wasn't feeling it as no one brought butter for his muffin."

Is that what you kids are calling it now?

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at July 11, 2025 09:53 AM (XQo4F)

119 Right, not left. Urgh.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:53 AM (TwZXH)

120 Over 100 comments on a Homer thread and nobody has said, "Doh!"

Who are you people and what have you done with the Horde?
Posted by: muldoon

See Comment 46.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:53 AM (77rzZ)

121 Judges conclude there must be a dog just out of sight, so Art. Definitely art, and of the highest order.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 11, 2025 09:53 AM (7k1wd)

122 Breezing Up is the Homer painting everyone recognizes.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 09:53 AM (VofaG)

123 2 Would hang even though there is no dog!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (hOUT3)

It's a dog-day afternoon. Does that count?

Posted by: m at July 11, 2025 09:54 AM (aURVT)

124 Painting: Kid wailing "Shane! Shane! I love you Shane! I love you!"
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird

Preacher! Preacher! We all love you Preacher...I love you!... Thank you! Goodbye!

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:54 AM (8v2yu)

125 When was the last time somebody swept that filthy beach??

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 09:54 AM (TwZXH)

126 Over 100 comments on a Homer thread and nobody has said, "Doh!"

Who are you people and what have you done with the Horde?
Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:51 AM (poXs5)

*points to #46*

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 09:54 AM (5jU2p)

127 There are places you should not go but nobody can tell you that.

You have to find out for yourself.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:55 AM (viF8m)

128 107 Otis my man!

https://tinyurl.com/4ujf342x
Posted by: JackStraw

Otis' career had it's up and downs, particularly on his final flight.

Posted by: Rapid Descent at July 11, 2025 09:55 AM (G5+As)

129 Homer, often using watercolors, achieves an immediacy in his scenes. They aren't static but have the sense of movement, sometimes subtle. In this painting it's the movement of the ships in the distance, the gulls and the flow of the water. That makes the still, steady pose of the little boy the focus of the scene. You don't need to see his face, his posture says it all. The soft colors of sky, sea and sand make the dark rowboat and boy's figure the hard, real part of the image.

There is an emotional aspect to the painting that might not occur to a modern audience but would to viewers in the 1800s: uncertainty. Sailing schedules were not set in stone but faced delays due to water and weather. And it wasn't the safest way to make a living. The child can only wait and hope for his dad to appear. There's an element of a child's faith underlying the image.

Posted by: JTB at July 11, 2025 09:55 AM (yTvNw)

130
He started the painting as a reclining nude on a chaise lounge but wasn't feeling it as no one brought butter for his muffin.
Posted by: banana Dream

Well, lookee at who's all au courant!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:56 AM (Tv15w)

131 Food!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:56 AM (77rzZ)

132 that gull should move half of those burnt ends to its other wing.

Posted by: cmeat at July 11, 2025 09:56 AM (GAyiy)

133 He's looking at a girl in a bikini

Posted by: Easter weekend at July 11, 2025 09:56 AM (LOZbR)

134 128 There are places you should not go but nobody can tell you that.

You have to find out for yourself.
--------------
Don't go into Stephen King's house. If you do, do not go into his crawl space. Same deal with Ace, too.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 09:56 AM (W3T6M)

135 I've actially heard of this guy. Maybe from the plates in my sixth grade literature book.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:57 AM (bvNHo)

136 But wait.
I'm wearing a braided chain made of finest silver from the North of Spain. And a locket that bears the name of the man that I love.
Posted by: Brandy at July 11, 2025 09:44 AM

I've got some bad news for you, Brandy...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

He's chasing the girl from Ipanema.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:49 AM (8v2yu)

Who wouldn't? She wore that itsy bitsy eeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini for the first time and he was instantly smitten.

Posted by: Admiral Commodore de Monet at July 11, 2025 09:57 AM (wVcYX)

137 Weird that he would sign an unfinished painting.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 09:57 AM (VofaG)

138 *points to #46*

*********

Ahh! The apostrophe eluded my ctrl-0f search.

I withdraw my complaint. My faith in humanity is restored.

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:57 AM (poXs5)

139 There's something off about the boat the kid is on. Bow, sides, keel. Line up is not right.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 11, 2025 09:57 AM (n4GiU)

140 Past 100 comments: move along nothing to see here -

Daily Caller -
EXCLUSIVE: USAID Quietly Sent Thousands Of Viruses To Chinese Military-Linked Biolab

https://tinyurl.com/5bn8beet

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 09:57 AM (Dv3i1)

141 9 "Would hang even though there is no dog!"
portuguese water dog in the dunphy.

Posted by: cmeat at July 11, 2025 09:58 AM (GAyiy)

142 My faith in humanity is restored.
Posted by: muldoon

You must be new here.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:59 AM (77rzZ)

143 If I had a low country seafood restaurant meant to attract tourists that I named by taking two words, 1) a type of sea going crustacean and 2) preceding that with an emotive word that begins with the same letter as the crustacean, a rule which is legally mandated in those parts, I would hang this picture prominently inside.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 10:00 AM (cduTK)

144 I've actially heard of this guy. Maybe from the plates in my sixth grade literature book.
Posted by: Boss Moss

From the Eagles. Winslow Homer? He lived in Arozona. Owned a flat bed Ford.

Posted by: Totally tone deaf

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 10:00 AM (8v2yu)

145 Sailors sleeping in the fo'c'sle: "Kid, if you fart again, we're gonna harpoon your ass!"

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:00 AM (TwZXH)

146
On the beach you'll find them there
In the sun and salty air
The girls on the beach
Are all within reach
If you know what to do

Posted by: Brian Douglas Wilson & Mike E. Love at July 11, 2025 10:00 AM (XQo4F)

147 He's chasing the girl from Ipanema.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:49 AM (8v2yu)

Who wouldn't? She wore that itsy bitsy eeny weeny yellow polka dot bikini for the first time and he was instantly smitten.
Posted by: Admiral Commodore de Monet

***********

He wishes they all could be California girls...

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 10:01 AM (poXs5)

148 My faith in humanity is restored.
Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:57 AM

I don't know if I'd go that far.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:01 AM (kgE5c)

149 If I had a low country seafood restaurant meant to attract tourists that I named by taking two words, 1) a type of sea going crustacean and 2) preceding that with an emotive word that begins with the same letter as the crustacean, a rule which is legally mandated in those parts, I would hang this picture prominently inside.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 10:00 AM (cduTK)

Holy shit! Mr. Krabs, is that you?!?!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:02 AM (5jU2p)

150
Who's to say whether a work of art is unfinished, other than the person who created the work?

You viewing it as being "unfinished" is your scene, not the artist's, man!

Were there hordes of "Finish It!" Karens who hounded poor Franz Schubert to death over his Eighth Symphony? History is silent on that score.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 10:02 AM (Tv15w)

151 Krusty Krab?

Posted by: SpongeBob at July 11, 2025 10:02 AM (XQo4F)

152 146 Sailors sleeping in the fo'c'sle: "Kid, if you fart again, we're gonna harpoon your ass!"

--------

What the hell. We'll harpoon his ass anyway. Smedley, you go first.

Posted by: Rear Adm. Bill Kristol at July 11, 2025 10:02 AM (dDmld)

153 The Good Kind of Crabs Restaurant

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:03 AM (VofaG)

154 Holy shit! Mr. Krabs, is that you?!?!
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:02 AM

Is he posting from Baltimore?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:03 AM (kgE5c)

155 One Krabby Patty, hold the mayonnaise.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:03 AM (77rzZ)

156 The Justice Dept is doing something

Friday, July 11, 2025

Office of Public Affairs
Today, the Justice Department filed a statement of interest in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the case of Children’s Health Defense et al. v. Washington Post et al. The lawsuit — led by plaintiffs allegedly deplatformed for sharing independent news and opinion related to the COVID-19 pandemic — alleges that the Washington Post, BBC, AP, and Reuters colluded with one another and with the large digital platforms to suppress competition from independent perspectives that rival mainstream media. The statement of interest explains how the antitrust laws protect viewpoint competition in news markets.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 11, 2025 10:03 AM (D7oie)

157 Is he posting from Baltimore?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:03 AM (kgE5c)

Or Dutch Harbor, Alaska.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:05 AM (5jU2p)

158 The Kosher Crab ( imitation crab served)

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:05 AM (VofaG)

159 I can't see my forehead.

Posted by: Patrick at July 11, 2025 10:05 AM (XQo4F)

160
Daily Caller -
EXCLUSIVE: USAID Quietly Sent Thousands Of Viruses To Chinese Military-Linked Biolab

https://tinyurl.com/5bn8beet
Posted by: Chuck Martelq

COEXIST! (kill us last!) COEXIST!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 10:05 AM (Tv15w)

161 If I had a low country seafood restaurant meant to attract tourists that I named by taking two words, 1) a type of sea going crustacean and 2) preceding that with an emotive word that begins with the same letter as the crustacean, a rule which is legally mandated in those parts, I would hang this picture prominently inside.

Not a crustacean, but I like The Crusty Clam.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM (Riz8t)

162 Kid thinking: "I sure hope he catches something else besides tilapia. I'm so sick of fucking tilapia!"

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM (TwZXH)

163 If I had a low country seafood restaurant meant to attract tourists that I named by taking two words, 1) a type of sea going crustacean and 2) preceding that with an emotive word that begins with the same letter as the crustacean, a rule which is legally mandated in those parts, I would hang this picture prominently inside.
Posted by: banana Dream

*********

Welcome to The Exquisite Escargot!

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM (poXs5)

164 164 If I had a low country seafood restaurant meant to attract tourists that I named by taking two words, 1) a type of sea going crustacean and 2) preceding that with an emotive word that begins with the same letter as the crustacean, a rule which is legally mandated in those parts, I would hang this picture prominently inside.
Posted by: banana Dream

*********

Welcome to The Exquisite Escargot!
Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM (poXs5)

======

The Hardcore Halibut.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM (GBKbO)

165 Not a crustacean, but I like The Crusty Clam.

--------

Wait. I thought that was a chain of discount bordellos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 11, 2025 10:07 AM (dDmld)

166 Not a crustacean, but I like The Crusty Clam.
Posted by: Archimedes

I bet they serve oyster ice cream.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:07 AM (77rzZ)

167 Kid thinking: "I sure hope he catches something else besides tilapia. I'm so sick of fucking tilapia!"

Wow, Dad sails all the way to Africa?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:07 AM (Riz8t)

168 Not a crustacean, but I like The Crusty Clam.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM (Riz8t)

Bearded Clam - Ocean City, MD. Yes it's a real place.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:07 AM (5jU2p)

169 "I'm so sick of fucking tilapia!"

Then stop.

Posted by: Duh at July 11, 2025 10:08 AM (XQo4F)

170 Saddest Shrimp.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:08 AM (TwZXH)

171 Later that day, dad took the boys out for a sail.

https://tinyurl.com/3v3mdpec

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:08 AM (viF8m)

172 'But, Killick, now I come to think of it, you had a wife in Mahon. She washed my shirts. You must not commit bigamy you know: it is against the law. You certainly had a wife in Mahon.' 'Which I had two, your honour, t’other in Wapping Dock; but they was more in the roving, uncertificated line, if you follow me, sir...'

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:08 AM (qpyNK)

173 Bearded Clam - Ocean City, MD. Yes it's a real place.

Nothing says class like OC.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:08 AM (Riz8t)

174 Welcome to The Exquisite Escargot!
Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM

Service there is kinda sluggish.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:08 AM (kgE5c)

175 The Briny Barnacle

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 10:09 AM (poXs5)

176 Ah, tilapia.

The fish for people who don't like fish.

The mechanically-separated chicken nugget of the sea.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:09 AM (qpyNK)

177 The Hardcore Halibut.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
------
Sounds like a gay bar. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

I would suspect wearing bejeweled Crocs would be a requirement though.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:09 AM (ctrM5)

178 Contemptible Crab.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (TwZXH)

179
Nothing says class like OC.
Posted by: Archimedes

Beloved by our betters from DC!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (Tv15w)

180 Bearded Clam - Ocean City, MD. Yes it's a real place.
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:07 AM

Bunghole Liquors - Peabody, MA. Yes, it's a real place. Yes, they have t-shirts.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (kgE5c)

181 Fried Flounder?

Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (Oy/m2)

182 The Stone Crab Joint

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (VofaG)

183 The Cromulent Coral.

Posted by: Is that how this works? at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (XQo4F)

184 90 "Time and Tide wait for no man."
and tom waits for no one.

Posted by: cmeat at July 11, 2025 10:11 AM (GAyiy)

185 > they was more in the roving, uncertificated line, if you follow me, sir...'
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:08 AM (qpyNK)

This was from the part of the book where Killick buys a wife at auction, which was apparently still quasi-legal in rural England at that time.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:11 AM (qpyNK)

186 The Sketchy Skallop

Seasonal seafood shop only open in months without an "R"

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 10:11 AM (poXs5)

187 The Looney Lobster

The Persnickety Prawn

The Cray-Crayfish

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:11 AM (5jU2p)

188 Pathetic Prawn.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:11 AM (TwZXH)

189 Dirty Dicks.

Posted by: In the Outer Banks at July 11, 2025 10:12 AM (XQo4F)

190 182 The Stone Crab Joint
Posted by: polynikes
=======
Damn, now I am hungry for them. Truly Manna from the sea.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:12 AM (ctrM5)

191 Loathsome Fish Lice.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:12 AM (TwZXH)

192 The Crust Station, Fried-Shrimp Emporium.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:12 AM (77rzZ)

193 Bunghole Liquors - Peabody, MA. Yes, it's a real place. Yes, they have t-shirts.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (kgE5c)

Do they sell TP?
- Beavis

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:13 AM (5jU2p)

194
This was from the part of the book where Killick buys a wife at auction, which was apparently still quasi-legal in rural England at that time.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

And, Allah willing, it will be again!

-- Islamic Rage Boys, the "New Britons"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 10:13 AM (Tv15w)

195 181 Fried Flounder?
Posted by: dantesed
=====
Pan fried with lemon please. Mmmmm.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:13 AM (ctrM5)

196 Rolls and Rock Lobster served daily

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:13 AM (VofaG)

197 Krill To Kill For.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:14 AM (TwZXH)

198 Grumpy Grouper?

Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2025 10:14 AM (Oy/m2)

199 Fried Flounder?
Posted by: dantesed
=====
Pan fried with lemon please. Mmmmm.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:13 AM

Mmm...browned buttah, a few capers...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:14 AM (kgE5c)

200 >>Dirty Dicks.

Dead Eye Dicks

Block Island

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:14 AM (viF8m)

201 Loathsome Fish Lice would be an excellent name for a hardcore punk band.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:14 AM (qpyNK)

202 very nice watercolor, expertly done

beautiful

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 10:14 AM (dCxaZ)

203 The Crust Station, Fried-Shrimp Emporium.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:12 AM (77rzZ)

That's really good. A few steps beyond a golf clap.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:15 AM (5jU2p)

204 197 Krill To Kill For.
Posted by: Hacked gp's
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I see Big Penguin is at work here.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:15 AM (ctrM5)

205 Big Ass Boiled Barnacles.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:15 AM (TwZXH)

206 The Kosher Crab ( imitation crab served)
Posted by: polynikes

Also Oy! sters

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:15 AM (77rzZ)

207 ZH has an article on Sweden cracking down on OF - apparently you can now be arrested as a *customer* if the performer engages in sexual content.

Its an odd way to handle it, but its Europe, whatever.

The thing I noticed though is that ZH includes a bunch of OF model pictures. And they almost all wear that heavy, ugly layer of makeup like trannies do.

I'm sure they actual are women...but they are making themselves look like trannies.

What
The
Hell

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:15 AM (t0Rmr)

208 Yes, officer, that's when the conversation veered from unfinished art and cheesy 70s songs into lewd marine life puns.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:15 AM (Riz8t)

209 Mmm...browned buttah, a few capers...
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Mass knows how to do seafood.

Iced tea to go with it, not so much.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:16 AM (ctrM5)

210 Damn, now I am hungry for them. Truly Manna from the sea.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:12 AM (ctrM5)

Houston had a high dollar seafood restaurant called Trulucks that was their specialty.. it is as you say.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:16 AM (VofaG)

211 > And, Allah willing, it will be again!

-- Islamic Rage Boys, the "New Britons"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 10:13 AM (Tv15w)

As I understand it, "marriage" and "divorce" are so easy under Islam that it's used as a loophole for prostitution. You go to the brothel and the on-site imam "marries" you to the prostitute, then after you're finished, the imam "divorces" you from her.

In fact, I think you can divorce a wife simply by saying "I divorce you." three times.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:16 AM (qpyNK)

212 That's really good. A few steps beyond a golf clap.
Posted by: Doof

I help where I can. (Or whatever it is that Sponge says.)

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:17 AM (77rzZ)

213 I'm so sick of fucking tilapia!

We're not exactly thrilled either.

Posted by: Tilapia at July 11, 2025 10:17 AM (jc0TO)

214 As I understand it, "marriage" and "divorce" are so easy under Islam that it's used as a loophole for prostitution. You go to the brothel and the on-site imam "marries" you to the prostitute, then after you're finished, the imam "divorces" you from her.

I think you can only marry 4 women though...so could be a problem if your already are at your limit

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:17 AM (t0Rmr)

215 In fact, I think you can divorce a wife simply by saying "I divorce you." three times.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:16 AM (qpyNK)

Correct

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 10:17 AM (trxpo)

216 Looks like we're shell-a-brating.

Posted by: Crustacean punz at July 11, 2025 10:17 AM (XQo4F)

217 Pillbugs are crustaceans. I don't know if anybody has tasted one yet.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:17 AM (TwZXH)

218 The thing I noticed though is that ZH includes a bunch of OF model pictures. And they almost all wear that heavy, ugly layer of makeup like trannies do.

I'm sure they actual are women...but they are making themselves look like trannies.

What
The
Hell
Posted by: 18-1
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Pancake makeup to make oneself look better under high rez is my guess. Infotainment is a rough business where people go to extreme lengths to bring in bux because looks are paramount in that society.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:18 AM (ctrM5)

219 I see Big Penguin is at work here.
Posted by: whig

Don't worry, we're on it.
-- Big Leopard Seal

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:18 AM (77rzZ)

220 206 Ha!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:18 AM (TwZXH)

221 > 217 Pillbugs are crustaceans. I don't know if anybody has tasted one yet.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:17 AM (TwZXH)

I seem to recall that someone collected enough of them to make a chowder-type dish. Supposedly tasted like other crustaceans, with overtones of dirt.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:19 AM (qpyNK)

222 >>Mass knows how to do seafood.

Pffft. Does Massachusetts have an official appetizer?

I don't think so.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:19 AM (viF8m)

223 Iced tea to go with it, not so much.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:16 AM

True. Sweet tea isn't a thing up here.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:19 AM (kgE5c)

224 Because it fits - and because there is never a wrong time for a Steely Dan deep cut...

Throw Back The Little Ones
https://youtu.be/I3MVAH-bp_g

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:19 AM (5jU2p)

225 Pillbugs are crustaceans. I don't know if anybody has tasted one yet.
Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird

Jackie Kennedy used to wear them as hats.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:19 AM (77rzZ)

226 214 As I understand it, "marriage" and "divorce" are so easy under Islam that it's used as a loophole for prostitution. You go to the brothel and the on-site imam "marries" you to the prostitute, then after you're finished, the imam "divorces" you from her.

I think you can only marry 4 women though...so could be a problem if your already are at your limit
Posted by: 18-1
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The temporary marriage gig is a Shia thing. Not Sunni. The idea is fornication is a worse sin than divorcing. In a static culture that has a bunch of thirsty males, I'd imagine that custom came about for social stability. Sort of like legalizing weed here.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:20 AM (ctrM5)

227 "ZH"? Expand, please?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:20 AM (qpyNK)

228 Love the painting and the title of it. The waiting is the hardest part. This makes me feel it!

Posted by: Bad Andrew at July 11, 2025 10:21 AM (6qf1m)

229 "ZH"? Expand, please?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Zero Hedge, I'm guessing.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:21 AM (77rzZ)

230 Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:20 AM (ctrM5)

Look at whig using street slang.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:21 AM (VofaG)

231 226 Ha! Need to do an AI rendering of that one.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:21 AM (TwZXH)

232 True. Sweet tea isn't a thing up here.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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I prefer unsweet but even there. One solitary piece of ice floating in instant tea--and this was at a prominent rated seafood restaurant in Boston on the harbor front.

BIL is from Western Mass and my sister met him working in Springfield.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:22 AM (ctrM5)

233 228 "ZH"? Expand, please?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Zero Hedge. Or did you want a better description of O/F makeup?

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:22 AM (ctrM5)

234 Wikipedia says that Muhammad had 11 wives.

It's Good To Be The Prophet, I guess.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (qpyNK)

235 July 11, 1804: Burr – Hamilton Duel:

On July 11, 1804, Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr
met on the dueling grounds at Weehawken, New Jersey,
to fight the final skirmish of a long-lived political and
personal battle. When the duel was over, Hamilton
would be mortally wounded, and Burr would be wanted
for murder.

I say Make Duels Great Again for members of Congress.

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (oiNtH)

236 Finally! A decent painting!

Posted by: BonnieBlue at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (rVuYC)

237 Zero Hedge.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:22 AM (ctrM5)

Thanks

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (qpyNK)

238 Why did the lobster blush?
It saw the ocean’s bottom!

Posted by: Tip your waitress at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (XQo4F)

239 Pffft. Does Massachusetts have an official appetizer?

I don't think so.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:19 AM

Not yet. The bill hasn't moved since 2016. Because Massachusetts.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (kgE5c)

240 I like this painting. Just fun and relaxing to look at. Makes me wish I was there too.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at July 11, 2025 10:24 AM (qliBS)

241 the groovy grouper and the jolly jewfish.

Posted by: cmeat at July 11, 2025 10:24 AM (GAyiy)

242 Houston had a high dollar seafood restaurant called Trulucks that was their specialty.. it is as you say.
Posted by: polynikes
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Good to know. Florida at St. Peterburg and the lower Gulf Coast is where I first sampled them just as they came in season.

Crabby Bill's was the restaurant in St. Pete that I first got some. Dunno if that is still there or not.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:25 AM (ctrM5)

243 > 239 Zero Hedge.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:22 AM (ctrM5)

Thanks
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (qpyNK)

And yeah, some of dem boyz iz skeery.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:25 AM (qpyNK)

244 Rolls and Rock Lobster served daily
Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:13 AM (VofaG)

I…want Rolls and Rock all night
With butter every day!

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2025 10:25 AM (03kKB)

245 I had a weird but delicious sandwich for lunch, and I am fighting off nap-time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 10:25 AM (L5An7)

246 >>Not yet. The bill hasn't moved since 2016. Because Massachusetts.

Apparently, the Rhode Island legislature has solved all the big problems so we do.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:25 AM (viF8m)

247 I prefer unsweet but even there. One solitary piece of ice floating in instant tea--and this was at a prominent rated seafood restaurant in Boston on the harbor front.

BIL is from Western Mass and my sister met him working in Springfield.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:22 AM

Now that's just sad. I haven't run into that problem, myself. With you on the unsweet tea, though. The first time I encountered southern sweet tea, my pancreas went into shock.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:25 AM (kgE5c)

248 Got Junior sitting next to me.

He has to read 1.5 chapters of Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince and then write a summary of what he read.

We correct his grammar and spelling.

He's got an old school dictionary, flipping through and looking for the correct spelling of "instead".

He will then proceed to watch TV and play on his Switch for the rest of the day.

Eh...it's something.

Already got his little reading on Rome done, too. A few paragraphs about Caesar, the Salad Dressing Dude.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:26 AM (GBKbO)

249 243 the groovy grouper and the jolly jewfish.
Posted by: cmeat
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Need to add stoned crabs and you would have the perfect chronic seafood restaurant.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:26 AM (ctrM5)

250 Aaron Burr was the one who introduced James Madison to Dolley.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

251 248 I had a weird but delicious sandwich for lunch, and I am fighting off nap-time.

Sure, it was the sandwich, and not the bottle of absinthe...

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:26 AM (Riz8t)

252 >>> Bunghole Liquors - Peabody, MA. Yes, it's a real place. Yes, they have t-shirts.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (kgE5c)

Beaver Liquors in CO at a prime spot for road tripping bros heading to the slopes. Yes, I have a photo of me and friends in front of the sign.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM (cduTK)

253 A simple painting. Me like . Would hang.
Thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM (JtH6i)

254 Apparently, the Rhode Island legislature has solved all the big problems so we do.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:25 AM

Well, once you got rid of that pesky "and Providence Plantations" in the state name, everything else just fell into place.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM (kgE5c)

255 253 Aaron Burr was the one who introduced James Madison to Dolley.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

====

I knew that one!

I suspect they hit it off because he made her laugh. The match otherwise makes no sense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM (GBKbO)

256 Pancake makeup to make oneself look better under high rez is my guess. Infotainment is a rough business where people go to extreme lengths to bring in bux because looks are paramount in that society.

I'm not an OF customer so I'm not their customer base, therefore perhaps my opinion on things doesn't matter but if I'm asked to chose between a woman with pancake/tranny makeup or one with a more normal makeup I'm choosing the latter...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM (t0Rmr)

257 Pffft. Does Massachusetts have an official appetizer?

I don't think so.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:19 AM

Not yet. The bill hasn't moved since 2016. Because Massachusetts.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:23 AM (kgE5c)

Best seafood item I've had in my visits to MA is the Stuffed Quahog. Those things are soooooooo good!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:28 AM (5jU2p)

258 Now that's just sad. I haven't run into that problem, myself. With you on the unsweet tea, though. The first time I encountered southern sweet tea, my pancreas went into shock.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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I positively hate sweet tea despite growing up with it all around me, came to dislike soda (other than soda water for a drink), and loathe most fruit juices.

So coffee or tea since adulthood with no sugar please.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:28 AM (ctrM5)

259 Posted by: Totally tone deaf
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 10:00 AM (8v2yu)

Totally tone deaf? I tried at #36.

Posted by: haffhowershower at July 11, 2025 10:28 AM (03kKB)

260 >>> Bunghole Liquors - Peabody, MA. Yes, it's a real place. Yes, they have t-shirts.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:10 AM (kgE5c)

Beaver Liquors in CO at a prime spot for road tripping bros heading to the slopes. Yes, I have a photo of me and friends in front of the sign.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM

Beaver Liquors >>> Bunghole Liquors

But this is MA, so...ghey.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:28 AM (kgE5c)

261 >>Well, once you got rid of that pesky "and Providence Plantations" in the state name, everything else just fell into place.

I was a hard no on that. But does anyone listen to me?

Apparently not.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:28 AM (viF8m)

262 I used to knock off several plates of the all you can eat flounder even as a little kid.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 10:29 AM (bvNHo)

263 ZH writers are fine.

ZH posters are...varied. They have a few interesting insightful people, reminiscent of morons here...and a bunch of people that hate Jews and blame them for EVERYTHING.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:29 AM (t0Rmr)

264 Best seafood item I've had in my visits to MA is the Stuffed Quahog. Those things are soooooooo good!
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:28 AM

A well-made stuffie is a beautiful thing.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:30 AM (kgE5c)

265 Ice tea is disgusting.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:30 AM (77rzZ)

266 East coast has better sea food then west coast. Hands down

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:30 AM (t0Rmr)

267 If I was an early riser or sleepless this would be on the tech thread. Beelink is dead. Or more accurately the on off button is broken.
And hueTube has no video on the subject.
Not po'd at all.
_Goes to junk drawer for screwdriver

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:31 AM (FQLP3)

268 I'm not an OF customer so I'm not their customer base, therefore perhaps my opinion on things doesn't matter but if I'm asked to chose between a woman with pancake/tranny makeup or one with a more normal makeup I'm choosing the latter...
Posted by: 18-1
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I am speculating but I read stories back in the day about the transition to hi res TV and its affect on makeup for the newsreaders, actors, etc. Basically hi rez shows every single blemish and imperfection to an unflattering degree. So pancake makeup had to get a lot thicker to hide the various bumps, skin imperfections, incipient mustaches, 5 o'clock shadow, etc.

I do know that a LOT of filtering is now being used on camera feeds as well.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:31 AM (ctrM5)

269 Well, once you got rid of that pesky "and Providence Plantations" in the state name, everything else just fell into place.

I was a hard no on that. But does anyone listen to me?

Apparently not.
Posted by: JackStraw

The reasoning was stupid, but I probably would've voted to get rid of it. Saves printing costs on the state letterhead.

Also, there's no warrant for the smallest state of the Union having the longest official name.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:32 AM (77rzZ)

270 269 East coast has better sea food then west coast. Hands down
Posted by: 18-1
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Dunno. Best steamed crabs that I had and smoked salmon came from West Coast of Canada. I prefer West Coast salmon over Atlantic salmon. But cod is better than pollock.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:32 AM (ctrM5)

271 268 Ice tea is disgusting.
Posted by: Bulg at July
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Are you American?

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:32 AM (FQLP3)

272 I like my steamed hams from Albany.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:33 AM (GBKbO)

273 >>Best seafood item I've had in my visits to MA is the Stuffed Quahog. Those things are soooooooo good!

The bomb. Particularly if you get some made by a old Portuguese grandma who sticks a bit of chorizo in them.

Makes Homer sound ....

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:33 AM (viF8m)

274 Damn, got crabs on my mind. I meant to say steamed fresh oysters.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:33 AM (ctrM5)

275 Ice tea is disgusting.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:30 AM (77rzZ)

Goes great with a Reece's PB cup

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:33 AM (5jU2p)

276 East coast has better sea food then west coast. Hands down

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:30 AM (t0Rmr)

Abalone, wild salmon, Dungeness crab, and Petrale sole say you are wrong.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 10:34 AM (L5An7)

277 Ice tea is disgusting.
Posted by: Bulg at July
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Are you American?

Posted by: Braenyard

Yep. Give me lemonade any day over that crap.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:34 AM (77rzZ)

278 >>Also, there's no warrant for the smallest state of the Union having the longest official name.

Small? The Atlantic Ocean is our backyard.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:35 AM (viF8m)

279 269 East coast has better sea food then west coast. Hands down
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:30 AM
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*Ahem*

Posted by: The Gulf Coast at July 11, 2025 10:35 AM (XQo4F)

280 The bomb. Particularly if you get some made by a old Portuguese grandma who sticks a bit of chorizo in them.

Makes Homer sound ....
Posted by: JackStraw

I am partial to Portuguese red clam chowder over the traditional creamy NE style. A great place where you can get both is Cedar Key, FL. A slice of FL before its Disneyfication.

Due to changes caused by new fishing regulations, the fishing folks there went into cultivating clams on claims in the ocean. Fed by the Suwannee River emptying nutrients into the Gulf.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:36 AM (ctrM5)

281 The Atlantic Ocean is our backyard.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:35 AM (viF8m)

And I-95 is your front yard.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 10:36 AM (L5An7)

282 284 269 East coast has better sea food then west coast. Hands down
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:30 AM
###

*Ahem*
Posted by: The Gulf Coast at July 11, 2025 10:35 AM (XQo4F)

======

The Gulf has no life anymore because the BP oil spill destroyed the environment forever.

#facts

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:36 AM (GBKbO)

283 >>> Ice tea is disgusting.
Posted by: Bulg at July
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Are you American?
Posted by: Braenyard

Yep. Give me lemonade any day over that crap.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:34 AM (77rzZ)

Or mix them, arnoldpalmers are real damned popular with America's hat. You order tea and that's what you'll get.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 10:36 AM (cduTK)

284 I started counting calories. I don't restrict em, I just count em. Already lost eight pounds as of this AM?! Scale must be busted.

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 10:36 AM (TwZXH)

285 >>And I-95 is your front yard.

Well yea. How else you gonna drag the boat to the Keys?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:38 AM (viF8m)

286 Texas and China have a lot in common right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6CHOH1UaVU

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:38 AM (Riz8t)

287 Waiting For Dad, Winslow Homer

What's not to love? (A nice art start to the weekend.)

Of course, it would hang.

Thanks.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 10:38 AM (NFX2v)

288 Dunno. Best steamed crabs that I had and smoked salmon came from West Coast of Canada. I prefer West Coast salmon over Atlantic salmon. But cod is better than pollock.
Posted by: whig

Any preference for farmed or wild-caught salmon? The latter is pricey. I can't tell diff in taste. Might be a preference related to discussion on chicken farms the Horde had yesterday.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 10:38 AM (Dv3i1)

289 281 Ice tea is disgusting.
Posted by: Bulg
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Unsweet with a bit of lemon works well on hot days to satisfy thirst just as a gin and tonic does to satisfy another type of thirst.

Sweet tea, not so much. Treacly sweet tea on a hot day upsets my stomach and doesn't quench my thirst in heat.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:38 AM (ctrM5)

290 Or mix them, arnoldpalmers are real damned popular with America's hat. You order tea and that's what you'll get.
Posted by: banana Dream at July 11, 2025 10:36 AM (cduTK)

Arnold Palmer with vodka = John Daly.

AP with bourbon is better, though.

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:38 AM (5jU2p)

291 > East coast has better sea food then west coast. Hands down
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Lived on both coasts. They're "different." But the variety on the west coast was pretty stellar. And, yea, the Gulf Coast has some pretty tasty stuff too.

I did a blue water tuna fishing trip out of Santa Cruz, CA years ago. Best goddamn tuna ever. Right out of the ocean and onto a grill.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 10:39 AM (Q4IgG)

292 Best seafood item I've had in my visits to MA is the Stuffed Quahog. Those things are soooooooo good!
Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 10:28 AM

I spent a Summer on Cape Cod at my relatives homestead North Eastham many years ago. My Irish Great Aunt made Quahog chowder and it was to die for. It ruined clam chowder for me forever.

Posted by: Cheri at July 11, 2025 10:39 AM (oiNtH)

293 Not a crustacean, but I like The Crusty Clam.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:06 AM (Riz8t)

The Wicked Wench

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 11, 2025 10:40 AM (2J/Lj)

294 Treacly sweet tea on a hot day upsets my stomach and doesn't quench my thirst in heat.
Posted by: whig

It allows you to spit and run a string of saliva from your mouth to the ground.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 10:40 AM (8v2yu)

295 The Gulf has no life anymore because the BP oil spill destroyed the environment forever.

#facts
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:36 AM

But we got a spiffy new name.

Posted by: The Gulf of 'Murrica! at July 11, 2025 10:40 AM (XQo4F)

296 Any preference for farmed or wild-caught salmon? The latter is pricey. I can't tell diff in taste. Might be a preference related to discussion on chicken farms the Horde had yesterday.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

I prefer wild caught. But to keep prices down, flash frozen wild caught makes seafood reasonable. Krogers, if you have one around you, has decent prices on frozen wild caught seafood.

I've found frozen seafood is not so great if you want to bread it to deep or pan fry but it takes well to steaming in something like a pressure cooker or grilling.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:41 AM (ctrM5)

297 > I suspect they hit it off because he made her laugh. The match otherwise makes no sense.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM (GBKbO)

I thought it was because of her excellent snacky cakes.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 11, 2025 10:43 AM (qpyNK)

298 >>I did a blue water tuna fishing trip out of Santa Cruz, CA years ago. Best goddamn tuna ever. Right out of the ocean and onto a grill.

Back in our yute, we used to go tuna fishing a couple times a summer. Yellow are big around here in the early Fall. Best tuna is a bit of sashimi on the boat on the way back.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:43 AM (viF8m)

299 It allows you to spit and run a string of saliva from your mouth to the ground.
Posted by: rickb223
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I think that fact is definitely not in question by me. I started drinking coffee at about 10-11 years old drinking smooth blends and my mother always preferred unsweet iced tea so I got that from her.

Family gatherings always had the treacly sweet tea which I hated. Like Kool Aid or Lemonade better than that.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:43 AM (ctrM5)

300 ======

The Gulf has no life anymore because the BP oil spill destroyed the environment forever.

#facts
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July
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Gut a fish and it has globs on oil. Looks like black jello.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 11, 2025 10:44 AM (FQLP3)

301 I'm not an OF customer so I'm not their customer base, therefore perhaps my opinion on things doesn't matter but if I'm asked to chose between a woman with pancake/tranny makeup or one with a more normal makeup I'm choosing the latter...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:27 AM (t0Rmr)

Having heard reports that a number of actresses widely considered to be very attractive have bad skin, I'd assume it's for that reason. Lots of acne, pockmarks, etc. covered up.

Just a guess as I would never pay for internet porn even if I wanted it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 10:44 AM (ExV1e)

302 300 Treacly sweet tea on a hot day upsets my stomach and doesn't quench my thirst in heat.
Posted by: whig

It allows you to spit and run a string of saliva from your mouth to the ground.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 10:40 AM (8v2yu)
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At restaurants in the South that have self-serve sweetened and unsweetened tea, I instinctively pour half sweetened and half unsweetened because otherwise it's tea syrup!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 10:44 AM (36PRH)

303 308 Having heard reports that a number of actresses widely considered to be very attractive have bad skin, I'd assume it's for that reason. Lots of acne, pockmarks, etc. covered up.

Just a guess as I would never pay for internet porn even if I wanted it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 10:44 AM (ExV1e)

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Girls pop pimples, too.

Mel Gibson has really bad acne scars.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:44 AM (GBKbO)

304 Big push on the left that Epstein is Mossad, Israel controls Trump and hence Trump squashed it all.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 10:44 AM (ImXfC)

305 I've found frozen seafood is not so great if you want to bread it to deep or pan fry but it takes well to steaming in something like a pressure cooker or grilling.
Posted by: whig

FWIW, Flash frozen Ahi Tuna from the Pacific does pretty fair being grilled. Frozen Swordfish does as well. Nowadays, I simply use an indoor electric grill for convenience because cleaning outside grills became a chore.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:45 AM (ctrM5)

306 The bomb. Particularly if you get some made by a old Portuguese grandma who sticks a bit of chorizo in them.

Makes Homer sound ....
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:33 AM

Oh, hell yeah. A real vavo would use chourice, though.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:45 AM (Wnv9h)

307 ZH posters are...varied. They have a few interesting insightful people, reminiscent of morons here...and a bunch of people that hate Jews and blame them for EVERYTHING.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 10:29 AM (t0Rmr)

Once you've been in a casino and watched a Jewish time-travelling team zap in, move the ball in roulette so that you lose, and zap out... it changes a man. -- ZH poster

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 10:46 AM (ExV1e)

308 315 Once you've been in a casino and watched a Jewish time-travelling team zap in, move the ball in roulette so that you lose, and zap out... it changes a man. -- ZH poster
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 10:46 AM (ExV1e)

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See, this is where they go wrong.

They were actually Druish time travelers. From Druidia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 10:46 AM (GBKbO)

309 @313 well duh you have to thaw and drain it before breading.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 10:46 AM (36PRH)

310 At restaurants in the South that have self-serve sweetened and unsweetened tea, I instinctively pour half sweetened and half unsweetened because otherwise it's tea syrup!
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
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Heh. True. Tea flavored sugar drink.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:46 AM (ctrM5)

311 Seasonal seafood shop only open in months without an "R"

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 10:11 AM (poXs5)

Casamentio's in New Orleans.

Posted by: javems at July 11, 2025 10:46 AM (8I4hW)

312 Since I'm "land locked" here in KY, most, if not all of our seafood is either previously frozen, or frozen. There's a market that's only open a couple days a week that has "fresh" seafood from the Gulf. I've had some fish and shrimp from there and it is better that what they have at Kroger's.

Then there's those trucks, refrigerated ones that show up with fish, shrimp, lobster, etc. Toothy salesmen. Got a deal of "overstocked" fish.

Yea. No.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 10:47 AM (Q4IgG)

313 Farmed has a higher PCB content if you're looking for variety in your diet.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 10:48 AM (KAi1n)

314 @316 When the heroine in Spaceballs was described as a "Druish Princess" that did get a lol.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 10:48 AM (36PRH)

315 British Poles @BritishPoles

Poland marks 11 July as the National Day of Remembrance for over 100,000 Poles killed by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) in the Volhynia Massacre — an atrocity officially recognised as genocide by Poland

Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (TGPs7)

316 >>Bunghole Liquors - Peabody, MA. Yes, it's a real place. Yes, they have t-shirts.

And in Colorado, we have. . . Cum and Go!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (GbwPZ)

317 According to my wife, posters on ZH basically hate everybody: the Jews, the Brits, women...

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (77rzZ)

318 At restaurants in the South that have self-serve sweetened and unsweetened tea, I instinctively pour half sweetened and half unsweetened because otherwise it's tea syrup!
Posted by: Chairman LMAO

Exactly. We have a brand of ice tea here called Milo's. Sweet & unsweetened.

Wife likes a half glass of tea and a half glass of water because it's too sweet. And she's native Texan. Born & raised.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (8v2yu)

319 311 Big push on the left that Epstein is Mossad, Israel controls Trump and hence Trump squashed it all.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
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I think there is a pincher movement here. Some want Blondi Bondi gone on the Right. The Left is just trying to damage the Trump administration however it can.

Helps to conceal that CA Democrats are supporting child slavery on marijuana growing plantations that are state regulated.

That was what ICE found in their latest raid. Also the probability that cartels are involved is pretty high.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (ctrM5)

320 Then there's those trucks, refrigerated ones that show up with fish, shrimp, lobster, etc. Toothy salesmen. Got a deal of "overstocked" fish.
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Traditional Oklahoma crab cake recipe practically requires a wagon load from out East packed with ice and fresh crabs.

Posted by: Elizabeth W., American Indian at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (Dv3i1)

321 >>Oh, hell yeah. A real vavo would use chourice, though.

The shop foreman at a boat builder we used to do business with was Portuguese. Every Friday during the summer he would throw a BBQ for the shop and assorted guests that would feature things his grandmother made including stuffies, Portuguese bread, etc.

Fall River has some great food.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (viF8m)

322 Dad brings back 500 lbs of skate and rays, kid's job is to use a punch-Viola! Sea scallops@$25 a lb.!

Posted by: Sucker Born Every Minute at July 11, 2025 10:50 AM (G5+As)

323 Once you've been in a casino and watched a Jewish time-travelling team zap in, move the ball in roulette so that you lose, and zap out... it changes a man. -- ZH poster
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Close, but it would read "gewish" or "tiny hat" or some such.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 10:50 AM (KAi1n)

324 Poland marks 11 July as the National Day of Remembrance for over 100,000 Poles killed by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) in the Volhynia Massacre — an atrocity officially recognised as genocide by Poland
Posted by: Mister Ghost

Misinformation! Those poor, innocent Ukrainians never hurt a flea until evil Putin invaded them...

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:50 AM (77rzZ)

325 Fall River has some great food.
Posted by: JackStraw

What do you do from Winter through Summer?

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 10:51 AM (KAi1n)

326 Close, but it would read "gewish" or "tiny hat" or some such.

Is "tiny hat" a euphemism for a yarmulke?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 11, 2025 10:51 AM (Riz8t)

327 Exactly. We have a brand of ice tea here called Milo's. Sweet & unsweetened.

Wife likes a half glass of tea and a half glass of water because it's too sweet. And she's native Texan. Born & raised.
Posted by: rickb223
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Deep South likes their treacle tea. Often they get dumbfounded there if you ask for unsweet tea--they promptly ask if you want splenda, etc. with it. Often you get sweet tea anyway and have to send it back for unsweet.

Tea seems to get less sweet as you move westward though in the South which I grew up in Arkansas and the tea is less sweet there than where I live now.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 10:52 AM (ctrM5)

328 Is "tiny hat" a euphemism for a yarmulke?
Posted by: Archimedes

Festive little hats!

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 10:53 AM (77rzZ)

329 Is "tiny hat" a euphemism for a yarmulke?
Posted by: Archimedes

They're not referring to cowboys.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 10:54 AM (KAi1n)

330 324 >>Bunghole Liquors - Peabody, MA. Yes, it's a real place. Yes, they have t-shirts.

And in Colorado, we have. . . Cum and Go!
Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM (GbwPZ)
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And I believe there's a legit brand called "Bathtub Gin". The bottle has a paper wrapper.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 10:54 AM (36PRH)

331 >>Having heard reports that a number of actresses widely considered to be very attractive have bad skin, I'd assume it's for that reason.

Sadly, no. This is a trend popularized by the Kardashians, and they really did steal their make-up contouring* style from drag queens. You prefer women not using this style of make-up because it makes them look fake, and possibly, male.

*Uses layers of different flesh-colored base make-up the create the illusion of a differently shaped face (e.g. reduce size of nose, create cheekbones).

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 10:55 AM (GbwPZ)

332 >>What do you do from Winter through Summer?

Gun running, mostly. Don't tell anyone.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:55 AM (viF8m)

333 Fall River has some great food.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:49 AM

That's where the dad was from. They do, indeed, have some great food. And a cool battleship, but that's not important right now.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 10:57 AM (kgE5c)

334 >Having heard reports that a number of actresses widely considered to be very attractive have bad skin, I'd assume it's for that reason.

Cameron Diaz enters the conversation.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 10:58 AM (VofaG)

335 Ladies and gentlemen, your White House. Tell me you aren't having fun.

>>WhiteHouse
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ICE: Raids marijuana farms filled with illegal aliens

Cryin' Jimmy: “ThEy'Re JuSt StRaWbErRy PiCkErS 😭”

That ain’t produce, holmes. THAT'S PRODUCT. 🌿

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 10:58 AM (viF8m)

336 >>Big push on the left that Epstein is Mossad, Israel controls Trump and hence Trump squashed it all.

How about the opposite?
The day after we were told there were no Epstein files, Trump met with Netanyahu and announced a major peace deal, including additional ME countries wanting to join the Abraham Accords. Maybe the Epstein stuff was used as leverage to create ME peace?

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 10:59 AM (GbwPZ)

337 My grandma didn't drink anything but black coffee or water but she made sweet tea for grandpa. 3 cups of sugar in a gallon of tea.
I used to drink iced tea all day everyday. Hubbymayhem made it with one half cup of sugar per gallon. I quit drinking so much tea and just drink water now except when I'm out for a meal. Then I order a Coke or sweet tea.
I used to drink Coke with a breakfast out also because I prefer my caffeine to be cold and I didn't care much for coffee. Now I drink coffee when we go out for breakfast. At home I just drink water.

3. Cups. Of. Sugar. Per gallon.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 11, 2025 10:59 AM (2J/Lj)

338 321 Farmed has a higher PCB content if you're looking for variety in your diet.
Posted by: Dark Litigator
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The greatest risk is by far improper prep and storage at home and the store causing food poisoning.

The rest of it, depends on the source. Far East like Thai source, no telling what. Ditto for their shrimp. Salmon farm raised in the US, the greater risk is that the farm has stagnant waterflow resulting in the fish swimming in crap. That requires antibiotics in the feed which can be an issue. Good water flow, no problem.

US Farmed raised catfish (or tilapia if you can find it) are superior to those you get out of lakes or rivers--less mud taste.

And wild caught can have mercury, sewage, etc. And Chinese sea food harvesting ships probably do not have the best in sanitation either.

Place your bets on what you can afford and like but be a discerning consumer.

Life is too short for food snobbery or really snobbery of any kind.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:00 AM (ctrM5)

339 345 3. Cups. Of. Sugar. Per gallon.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 11, 2025 10:59 AM (2J/Lj)

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And grandpa lived to 800 years old.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

340 Girls pop pimples, too.

Mel Gibson has really bad acne scars.

there is so much technology today that can smooth out the skin:
laser resurfacing
UV-B treatments
sonic wave wands
NAD-peptide IV drips...

When I used to see how J-Lo and some other hollyweird
types were maintaining their youthful look and beauty, (without the weird reconfiguration of surgery), I figured they were privy to some cutting edge youthifying processes. Then lo and behold all the above became available to the proles.

Nowadays, it's pretty easy to keep one's looks, even on a middle class budget. Granted, if one is middle class, one may need to forego some other budget items, such as food or A/C in summer, but hey...what price beauty??

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:00 AM (dCxaZ)

341 Nood!

Posted by: tankdemon at July 11, 2025 11:01 AM (/BLT9)

342 All this complaining about tea being too sweet just serves to remind me how biased the blog readership is to Yankees. There, you see how polite I’m being: I didn’t use the full descriptive term for Yankees.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 11:01 AM (WK0PT)

343 ICE: Raids marijuana farms filled with illegal aliens

Cryin' Jimmy: “ThEy'Re JuSt StRaWbErRy PiCkErS 😭”

That ain’t produce, holmes. THAT'S PRODUCT. 🌿
Posted by: JackStraw
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You left out trafficked minors plus some that were officially unaccompanied working on that farm.

Cartels have deep roots in Southern Mexican border states.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:01 AM (ctrM5)

344 350 All this complaining about tea being too sweet just serves to remind me how biased the blog readership is to Yankees. There, you see how polite I’m being: I didn’t use the full descriptive term for Yankees.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit
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Not a Yankee. Not everyone likes sweet tea and it sure in the hell does not define who is Southern.

Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:02 AM (ctrM5)

345 Fried catfish for the win! Y'all can keep your foo foo coasty fish. I will give honorable mention to Alaska salmon though.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 11, 2025 11:02 AM (g8Ew8)

346 Staff at a California Surgical Center tried to block ICE from arresting two illegals in there.

What the headlines and reporting doesn't tell you until the end is that they were not patients but rather ran in there from the parking lot after confronted by ICE .

They also described one of the illegals as a landscaper sending home money to his mom for her dialysis treatment. Yeah right.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:03 AM (VofaG)

347 Not a Yankee. Not everyone likes sweet tea and it sure in the hell does not define who is Southern.
Posted by: whig at July 11, 2025 11:02 AM (ctrM5)

I alway order unsweetened. Most of my friends do to as they sweeten it to their taste on their own or not at all. This is Texas not the Deep South though.

Posted by: polynikes at July 11, 2025 11:05 AM (VofaG)

348 @352 AMEN

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 11, 2025 11:05 AM (36PRH)

349 i love these shit pebbles so much
fuck
so good

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 11:07 AM (3sSZK)

350 They also described one of the illegals as a landscaper sending home money to his mom for her dialysis treatment. Yeah right.

Mexican nationals have access to free health care

we are the only nation where citizens go bankrupt to pay for necessary medical treatments and care

Posted by: kallisto at July 11, 2025 11:18 AM (dCxaZ)

351 I was born in West Texas but half my family was from West Texas, half from East Texas, so I had both sweet and unsweetened tea growing up. I was just kidding about the full descriptive term for Yankees, although I identify with the South more than the North.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 11:40 AM (WK0PT)

352 732 days later…

Posted by: Amarillo HS Sandies at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (vm8sq)

The Morning Report — 7/11/25

Good morning kids, So in pondering the Jeffrey Epstein saga, is this the latest chapter or is this the final chapter? Other than all of the combined stories, and revolting details and allegations, I have no actual knowledge of what he has been accused of doing nor of his death in a New York jail cell. The fact remains that, AG Pam Bondi made a very big deal out of this and now all of a sudden, it's, meh, nothing to see here so case closed and lets move on?! All she has succeeded in doing is pointing the spotlight away from Epstein and shining it on her and by extension President Trump. Brilliant maneuver, so what the hell is going on here?

But, you see, here’s the thing: People want answers that seem logical, that provide rational explanations to obvious questions, that provide proof that the speculation is wrong. This is particularly true when the people now saying there’s nothing there were the very people who promised that answers, transparency, and accountability would be coming when they won. Well, they won, and we’re getting the same obfuscation. . . The problem here is that this is all happening in an environment where Americans are coming to believe that no one is ever accountable for their actions. We see city centers across the country imploding as stores, shops, and hotels close because of the crime that sees hoodlums, thugs, and drug addicts in urban centers basically take or destroy with impunity whatever they want. We see judges issue injunctions against the administration despite SCOTUS specifically ruling they can’t. At the same time, we have politicians, Antifa, and activists undermining, hindering, and assaulting ICE agents who are trying to deport criminals, and the chances of them being held accountable for these crimes are almost nonexistent.

Bingo. Of course Democrat/Leftist politicians and sometimes their useful RINO confederates are protected up until the point where they become political liabilities, and then they are thrown to the wolves.

When roving bands of criminals, domestic terrorists and criminal domestic terrorists can riot, loot and burn with impunity while the average citizen is arrested, and tried for self defense (Kyle Rittenhouse) or worse, arrested, tried and imprisoned for merely exercising their first amendment right of free speech (1/6/21 in DC, at school board meetings and abortion abattoirs), a very dangerous precedent is set that can only end in the breakdown of the civil society as trust in our institutions that are meant to preserve said society is completely eroded.

Look at it this way. When degenerate scum like Jasmine Crockett and Karen Bass and the majority of their fellow Democrat politicians — again John Fetterman being the surprising lone voice of sanity and reason in that Snake Pit of Evil — openly call for violent resistance to Ice and law enforcement in carrying out their legitimate duties to arrest, detain and deport illegal aliens, What does that do to the morale and effectiveness of the officers on the front line? Answer: it destroys it and will ultimately lead to their dissolution or worse their defection to the terrorists and criminals and maybe the ultimate formation of citizens brigades that will arm and protect themselves even if it means using deadly force to do so. Is that what we really want? Answer that any way you want, but for sure it might very well be where we are heading, and then all bets are off.

Elsewhere, President Trump's near 180 degree pivot on Ukraine is disappointing if not outright alarming in its potential implications.

Some, like Tucker Carlson (who seems to spend half his time in the Gulf and seems to have offered flattering interviews to every Muslim tyrant in the region), were obvious agents of foreign influence, others may have been sincere in their hysteria, but the combined effect made the movement look like clowns, especially once they were proven wrong. Most refused to admit they were wrong, but have gone on claiming that if it wasn’t for their bedwetting, we’d all be dead. Whoever won the debate on social media is hard to say, but we all know who won the debate in real life. Trump acted and shrugged off the antics. But, interestingly, there are signs he’s pivoting on Ukraine. While that may be in part hardball negotiating politics due to Putin’s refusal to make a deal, but it seems to have ramped up after the same people who had vocally argued against U.S. support for Ukraine burned up all their credibility trying to stop a U.S. strike on Iran’s nukes.

There is no doubt that a severely degraded if not completely destroyed Iranian nuclear program is a wonderful thing for world peace and security. Whether America should have been directly involved in delivering the coup de grace Qom shot at the Fordow foundation is something that even I, as an ardent supporter of Israel, thought beforehand was not the best course of action but what's done is done, and as stated, and the nuke program is a smoldering ruin. What emerges from the ashes there and in the Iranian government are still big question marks.

But President Trump's meddling in a war between Russia and Ukraine that has much less if not zero national security ramifications for America, unlike the Iranian nuclear program, is a head-scratcher. Russia as of right now will likely win the war and even if Trump does push Putin and Shecky Zelensky to a negotiation table, does anyone really think that Putin is going to surrender a single inch of territory? Regardless of the fact that Putin started this latest round of war, there is going to have to be some give and take on both sides, so what will Ukraine give up in order to stop the carnage?

As for Trump, is he merely doing this to get a Nobel Peace Prize, which would never happen anyway? What does Donald Trump and the USA have to gain by meddling here and potentially getting involved in a war that could very quickly get out of hand where a lot of hair would get mussed . . "depending on the breaks" as General Buck Turgidson would say.

I think a better use of our military forces would be to degrade and destroy Antifa and those who are funding them here at home.

Months of violent left-wing anti-ICE rhetoric achieved its apparently desired end state this week as an alleged Antifa cell conducted an attempted assassination of police officers outside the Praireland Detention Center, being used by Immigration and Customs Enforcement as a detention facility for illegal aliens.
On July 4, 11 black-garbed individuals, some equipped with body armor, ammunition, and firearms, conducted what the Department of Justice described as a “planned ambush.” Two of the attackers allegedly opened fire on ICE officers after their comrades initiated a disturbance to lure officers out of the building and into the line of fire by launching fireworks and spray painting anti-ICE slogans on nearby property. A police officer was shot in the neck but is expected to live. According to the criminal complaint filed by the Department of Justice, pamphlets on insurrectionary anarchism and propaganda materials, including a “Resist Fascism” flag, were recovered by law enforcement.

And lastly, a quick shout-out and thank you for your continued support in hitting our tip jar. It truly is appreciated more than you can know.

Have a great weekend!

ABOVE THE FOLD, BREAKING, NOTEWORTHY

Margot Cleveland: Hopefully, Director Ratcliffe’s investigation is still ongoing.
EXCLUSIVE: Henchmen Behind Brennan’s Fake Russia Collusion Assessment Are Still At The CIA
The real issue is accountability, and this matters a great deal to the American people, especially to Trump’s supporters.
The Jeffrey Epstein Case Is Far Bigger Than Jeffrey Epstein
Daniel Greenfield: Those claiming they were stopping us from being dragged into a war in Iran may have dragged us into a war in Ukraine.
The Anti-Israel Push May Have Changed Trump’s Mind on Ukraine

DOMESTIC AFFAIRS, THE COURTS, WASTE/FRAUD/ABUSE

Over 1500 employees will receive "Reduction in Force" (RIF) notices, a State Department official shared.
Following SCOTUS Win, State Department Informs Employees That Mass Layoffs Will Begin Soon
Congress should do its job and keep restricting the growth of exploding federal spending.
Here’s What’s Next In The Battle To Get Federal Spending Under Control
"NEWSOM/DEMOCRAT VIOLENT INSURRECTION RIOTS"
While local law enforcement understands the threat, little work has been done at the federal level to confront Antifa. (meh, make star chambers great again - jjs)
Terrorist Attack In Texas Demands Federal Targeting Of Antifa

"BIDEN/HARRIS BORDER BLOODBATH," AMNESTY, IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY
The judge “agreed the plaintiffs could proceed as a class, allowing him to issue a fresh judicial order blocking implementation of the Republican president’s policy nationally.”
Judge Issues New Nationwide Injunction on Birthright Using SCOTUS Guidance
"These are the kinds of scum-bags sanctuary politicians are protecting and letting walk free on America’s streets."
EXCLUSIVE: ICE Nabs Two MS-13 ‘Ringleaders’ In Midwest Raids
“A judge’s actions, even when done in her official capacity, do not bar criminal prosecution if the actions were done in violation of the criminal law.” (Nothing short of impeachment and disbarment is acceptable - jjs)
Wisconsin Judge Who Helped Illegal Alien Avoid ICE Suffers Legal Setback in Federal Criminal Case
This bill is one of many ongoing pushes by Democrats to expose ICE agents.
Massachusetts Bill Would Expose ICE Agents Amid Rise In Violent Threats
“Obviously, these are Democrats who have moved beyond the defeat-them-at-the-ballot-box stage of politics, and even beyond the protest-by-civil-disobedience stage.”
Is Democrat Rhetoric Fueling Violence Among Fringe Progressives?
The poll found that over 60 percent of all voters now support the deportation of illegal immigrants. Among Hispanic voters, 50 percent expressed support, with 48 percent opposed. Support among black voters stood at 53 percent, while support among white voters stood at 65 percent. This is despite pro-illegal immigrant riots and potentially deadly attacks on ICE in cities across the U.S., accompanied by highly inflammatory anti-ICE rhetoric from senior Democrats.
Hispanic Support for Trump’s Deportations Is Surging.
“ICE agents are just doing their job and I fully support that,” the Democrat said. (Lumpy Fetterman once again surprises - jjs)
‘Inappropriate And Outrageous:’ Dem Senator Slams Colleagues For Calling To Abolish ICE
The murderer’s name has not yet been released, but the July 9 ICE press release stated that he entered the United States illegally and is wanted back in his home country of El Salvador for “aggravated homicide of five victims; attempted aggravated homicide; deprivation of liberty; and terrorist organization affiliation.” These are the kind of extreme criminals who were allowed to enter America and receive taxpayer-funded freebies under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.
ICE Arrests Terrorist From 100 Most Wanted List
CIVIL WAR 2.0: J-6 FBI FALSE FLAG "RIOT" & AFTERMATH, LEFTIST PERSECUTIONS, DEMOCRAT PUTSCH, AMERICAN DISSOLUTION
The Secret Service had authorities follow Comey in unmarked vehicles clad in street clothing, and track the former FBI director’s location of his cellphone, one day after he issued his May 15, 2025 social media post “86 47,” three government officials told the New York Times.
Report: Authorities Tailed Jamey Comey’s Car, Tracked Cellphone In Response to His Menacing ’86 47′ Post
False Eyelash glue, and untreated syphilis is a helluva combination - jjs
Democrat Star Jasmine Crockett Falsely Claims ‘All Violence Coming from MAGA’
The party on the left is leaving the American political spectrum altogether.
Those Marxist Democrats
Today’s antifa terrorists are like a throwback to the old Baader-Meinhof gang, with a “transgender” twist.
The prevalence of real and fake women in Antifa terrorism
THE ECONOMY, STUPID
Daniel Greenfield: 1 in 5 Californians chose to raise egg prices on everyone else.
The Trump Admin is Right to Fight California’s Cage Free Eggs
ISRAEL AND USA vs IRAN
The Jerusalem Post: IDF Master Sergeant “Abraham Azulay was killed in Khan Yunis in the Gaza Strip after terrorists emerging from a tunnel attempted to abduct him.”
While Negotiating Hostage Release, Hamas Attempts to Take Another Hostage
Francesca Albanese, the UN boss trying to turn the ICC into an anti-American, anti-Israeli star chamber, hit with heavy sanctions.
Marco Rubio Drops the Hammer
Tom Barrack’s cheerleading won’t disarm Hezbollah—or reshape Lebanon’s reality.
Tom Barrack’s Unrealistic Optimism in Beirut
When war erupted over Tel Aviv, some fled—but those who stayed stood as quiet witnesses to resilience, solidarity, and the unshakable will of a nation under fire.
Under Fire in Tel Aviv: A Civilian’s View of Israel’s 12-Day War

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Douglas Murray: These include his claim that if he is elected in November he will look to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu if he even sets foot in this city. Mamdani has also suggested that he would also look to arrest the prime minister of India — Narendra Modi — if he comes to New York. Of course if a mayor of New York did have any such powers, then it would be another reason to move the headquarters of the United Nations out of this city.
Mamdani just latest mayor wannabe who thinks they can police the world
NYU Professor Chenjerai Kumanyika: “I want to signal to my comrades (holding keffiyeh) — I’m here, we here.”
Anti-Israel AAUP Leader Addresses ‘Comrades’ At Socialism 2025 Conference

OFFICIAL DEMOCRAT PARTY/LEFTIST-ENDORSED ANTI-SEMITISM, ANTI-CHRISTIANITY
“I am specifically targeted because of my position on Israel.”
Dem Leftist Congressman Admits He’s Targeted By Mamdani Allies Because He Supports Israel
A fleeting IRS nod isn’t peace—it’s a trap.
The IRS 'exemption' allowing politics from the pulpit isn't enough, the Johnson Amendment must be repealed
NY State’s first Jewish governor, a great philanthropist, may be rolling in his grave.
The Irony Behind The Endowed Columbia Chair That Zohran Mamdani’s Father Holds
WE-ALL-SLAM-FOR-I-SLAM
Twenty years after the jihadist atrocity, Britain is more cowed than ever by Islam.
Remembering 7/7 – The Wrong Way
FIRST AMENDMENT ISSUES, CENSORSHIP, FAKE NEWS, MEDIA, BIG BROTHER TECH
The Trusted News Initiative (TNI) is a global partnership of 23 members featuring big tech organizations such as Meta, Google, and big media outlets such as the British Broadcasting Organization (BBC), the Associated Press (AP), the Thomson Reuters, and the Washington Post.
Exclusive — Justice Department to File Statement of Interest in Antitrust Case Alleging Big Media, Big Tech Colluded to Censor RFK Jr.-Founded Group
In one more telling lowlight of the 2024 campaign, even a TikTok star felt obliged to protect Kamala Harris from . . . Kamala Harris.
Fresh proof America dodged a Kamala bullet despite her kid gloves treatment from the media
TRUMP ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS AFTERMATH
The 59-year-old Routh’s attempt to assassinate Trump appears to have been inspired by the former’s obsession with supporting Ukraine. The would-be assassin appears to have been deeply involved with efforts to send Afghanistan military veterans to Ukraine to assist in the country’s defense against Russia Additionally, federal prosecutors have produced a letter authored by Routh in which he pledges a six-figure cash bounty on President Trump, with the text also suggesting that he was likely inspired by the anti-Trump rhetoric pushed by the Democrat Party.
Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself.
RED-GREENS, CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX, DEMOCRAT-LEFT WAR ON FOSSIL FUELS,
In a video shared with the post, Zeldin addressed the longstanding skepticism surrounding these topics, stating that people who previously questioned them were often “dismissed as conspiracy theorists.” He added that the EPA’s latest initiative is intended to challenge that perception.
EPA’s Zeldin Releases Info on Contrails and Geoengineering.
Did Rainmaker's weather manipulation project play any part in the deadly floodwaters that wiped out parts of Central Texas?
Controversy Erupts Over Weather Modification Following Texas Flooding
Based on the number of bills being introduced in the states, to restore clean skies, there is reason for optimism.
The War on Weather Modification Gains Momentum
Three recent executive orders pave the way.
How to Jump-Start America’s Nuclear Industry

CRIME & PUNISHMENT, NON-DOSTOYEVSKY
New York City socialist's mayoral platform includes a call to replace cops with 'crisis responders' in 'mental health' cases
Zohran Mamdani Called To Stop Sending Cops to People 'Going Through Domestic Violence'
EDUCATION, AND WHAT PASSES FOR IT
“Postsecondary education programs funded by the federal government should benefit American citizens, not illegal aliens.”
Education Department Ends Postsecondary Education Grants for Illegal Aliens
Tina Descovich, the CEO and co-founder of conservative group Moms for Liberty, argued that the agenda item was emblematic of the dismal state of the American education system. “If the largest teachers union can’t define fascism properly we can all understand clearly why we are failing to teach children in schools,” Descovich wrote on X. “Number one priority is not to teach reading and math but a political agenda.” “It’s infuriating.”
Largest US teachers union mocked for misspelling ‘fascism’ in anti-Trump agenda item: ‘Too rich to parody’
Sources tell The National Pulse that Lefkowitz has outplayed federal negotiators in the Trump administration and is on the verge of finalizing an agreement with the U.S. government to rescue the far-left college from the brink of financial disaster. This involves restoring over $400 million in suspended federal grants and preserving its tax-exempt status and accreditation, even as the university faces accusations of civil rights violations and internal bigotry against both Trump supporters and Jewish students.Lefkowitz’s name is infamous among legal and political observers. In 2007, while a partner at Kirkland & Ellis, he helped broker a non-prosecution deal with then-U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta that let Epstein dodge a 53-count federal indictment in Florida. The pair met at a Marriott 70 miles from the prosecutor’s office to hammer out the secret arrangement. Epstein would plead guilty to state prostitution charges, serve just 13 months with work-release perks, and—most shockingly—his victims would never be notified, a blatant violation of federal law.
EXC: Epstein Lawyer Jay Lefkowitz Now Helping Columbia University Get Off Trump’s Hook.
Legislators should act to ensure that all students receive equal opportunities, regardless of race.
These State Laws Support Racially Discriminatory Scholarships
The draft agreement would see the university recoup most of the $400 million in grants and contracts that were frozen by the White House’s task force on anti-Semitism in March. In exchange, Columbia would adopt a number of measures designed to combat race discrimination and anti-Semitism.
EXCLUSIVE: Columbia Nears Deal With Trump Administration. University Will Pay Discrimination Victims, Reveal More Admissions and Hiring Data, But Will Dodge Harsher Measures Like Governance Shakeup.
ABORTION
Abortionist don’t want women to know this connection because it is an inconvenient fact getting in the way of them murdering countless unborn babies.
‘Research’ On Abortion, Birth Control, And Breast Cancer Is Just As Corrupt As Trans Treatments
THE 2020 and SUBSEQUENT ELECTION HEISTS , SHENANIGANS/FRAUD and AFTERMATH
‘The issue is larger than Wyss and the Sixteen Thirty Fund taking advantage of this loophole.’
Missouri Bans Loophole Allowing Foreign Nationals To Fund Ballot Initiatives
DEMOCRAT/LEFTIST AND RINO SCANDALS, MESHUGAS, CHUTZPOCRISY
Coming off the July 4 holiday weekend on Sunday night, Axios published a memo from the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) announcing that their investigation found no evidence that convicted sex offender and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein maintained a “client list” or was murdered. It was an abrupt shock to the president’s base, especially after Attorney General Pam Bondi previously acknowledged that she was reviewing a “client list” and a group of MAGA social media influencers received a “Phase 1” binder of the Epstein files.
EXCLUSIVE: Top Trump Officials Admit They’re Pissed At How The Epstein Story Was Handled
“Let me tell you, I know for a fact documents are being suppressed and being suppressed to protect individuals,” Dershowitz said. “I know the names of the individuals, I know why they’re being suppressed, I know who’s suppressing him,” he continued. “But I’m bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases and I can’t disclose what I know.”
Alan Dershowitz: ‘I know For a Fact’ Epstein Files ‘Are Being Suppressed to Protect Individuals’–‘I Know the Names!’
POLITICS
Thune and the Senate GOP’s slow-as-molasses confirmation of Trump’s executive appointments is a choice.
Senate Republicans Don’t Deserve A Vacation Until They’ve Confirmed Trump’s Nominees
The numbers reflect deep frustration among Republican primary voters with Cornyn’s record. Many conservatives took issue with his role in shaping 2022 gun legislation praised by President Biden, as well as his behind-the-scenes involvement in a failed immigration package that would have expanded legal pathways during the height of the border crisis. While Cornyn ultimately voted against that proposal after its inevitable defeat became clear, critics saw it as emblematic of his long-standing connection with Mitch McConnell and the Washington establishment.
Texas Senate Primary for Cornyn Seat Heats Up as Paxton Splits with Wife, Trump Mulls Engaging
“No, they’re riding a tiger, and they can’t keep on it, and they can’t get off. And the tiger is the AOC squad lunatic fringe of their party. They’re violent, dangerous people,” Hanson said when guest host Charlie Hurt asked about the Democrat Party’s internal turmoil.
‘Bitten By Their Own Creation’: Victor Davis Hanson Explains How AOC Squad Ended Up In ‘Lose-Lose’ Dilemma
FOREIGN AFFAIRS, INTERNATIONAL
The Chinese state-run Global Times cited trade experts who predicted that the completed railroad could “shorten export times from Brazil to Asia by up to 10 days” and potentially offer an “alternative to the Panama Canal” for China to ship its goods to Atlantic ports.
China Pitches South American Transcontinental Railroad as ‘Alternative to the Panama Canal’
Tariffs to force leftist-ruled democracies to clean up their act is something George Bush could only have dreamed of.
Trump sends Brazil something more persuasive than a stern warning over its lawfare
“Greece will suspend the examination of asylum applications, initially for three months, for those arriving in Greece from North Africa by sea."
Greece freezes asylum claims from North Africans amid spike in migrant landings on southern islands
“Our security seervices and police will go further still to protect us against the profound challenges of terrorism, organized crime, cyber attacks and of course irregular migration.”
King Charles rebrands illegal immigration as 'irregular migration' during banquet with French President Macron
DEFENSE, MILITARY, SECURITY AFFAIRS
At the heart of his concern is GNC’s 2020 acquisition by Harbin Pharmaceutical Group, a Chinese state-owned company with ties to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Harrigan argues that such ownership could pose a security threat, particularly since GNC operates stores on U.S. military bases. He’s now pushing for legislation—the Military Installation Retail Security Act—that would ban Chinese-owned retailers from operating on those bases.
A Chinese State-Owned Company Is Selling Supplements on U.S. Military Bases.
“This is the future. We're in the fight. We're in the fight to win it. And we’re never going to back down.”
Hegseth Unleashes U.S. Military ‘Drone Dominance’
HEALTH AND HEALTH CARE
This would be like the government giving Red Lobster money to feed people who don’t work and insisting it’s not welfare. Don’t be silly! There’s no welfare there. It’s shellfish coverage!
WashPost Dork Philip Bump (on a log) Says Medicaid Isn’t Welfare If You Simply Don’t Call It Welfare (like Obamacare wasn't a tax - jjs)
Robert Zimmerman: "Kennedy’s changes in personnel guarantee that — at least until the end of Trump’s administration — we will no longer see health policies based on hearsay, rumors, politics, and feel-good opinions lacking any grounding in scientific research — such as social distancing, mask mandates, lockdowns, and jab requirements. Instead, health policies related to infectious diseases will return to the methods that were developed for over more than two centuries, based on actual research, data, and results."
Another scientist blacklisted by the Biden CDC ends up in charge
ACTUAL SCIENCE, TECHNOLOGY
By having the facility on site, SpaceX hopes to make the delivery of those gases more efficient by eliminating the need to have dozens of trucks deliver them from Brownsville. The company says they need more than 200 trucks of liquid nitrogen and oxygen delivered for each launch, a SpaceX engineer told the county during a meeting last week.
SpaceX gets approval to build oxygen plant at Boca Chica
The truth is that we really don’t know exactly what motives brought Trump to make this appointment. It could be that Trump wants someone in charge who will have the political clout to push through his proposed NASA cuts. It also could be Trump wants someone with that clout to review those cuts and change them.
Why did Trump suddenly pick Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy to become temporary head of NASA?
FEMINAZISM, TRANSGENDER PSYCHOSIS, HOMOSEXUALIZATION, WAR ON MASCULINITY/NORMALCY
The gender craze is losing in the Supreme Court and in the court of public opinion.
This SCOTUS Session Confirmed The Vibe Shift On Transing Kids
And how to bring them back.
Where All the Men Have Gone
CULTURE WARS, NATIONAL SUICIDE
Three recently decided SCOTUS cases were family-friendly.
The Culture War Goes to Court
“First, the handful of T-Mobile employees who focused on diversity and inclusion will be redirected within Human Resources to focus on employee culture and engagement. As a result, T-Mobile will no longer have any individual roles or teams focused on ‘DEI.’ T-Mobile is also removing any language, logos, or other references to DEI on its websites, and will ensure that company websites and future communications do not have any references to DEI or diversity, equity, and inclusion, and are consistent with T-Mobile’s commitment to promote nondiscrimination and equal employment opportunity,” the company said in its memo.
T-Mobile Axes DEI as It Seeks Merger Permission from Trump FCC.
"But, you know, winning can make everything sound good. So if they win, all of a sudden the Commanders sounds good, but I wouldn't have changed the name,” Trump said.
Trump Says the Washington Redskins Should Never Have Changed Their Name
Actor Dean Cain, who became a fixture in millions of American households thanks to his beloved role as Superman in the hit TV series Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman from 1993 to 1997, says director James Gunn’s latest version, a $300 million-plus reboot hitting theaters this week, is too “woke” and politicizing the iconic character could hurt its box office success à la Disney’s Snow White.
Former ‘Superman’ Star Dean Cain Says James Gunn’s Woke Reboot Could See ‘Snow White’-Like Box Office Backlash
Christian Toto: Limp jokes, scattershot storytelling doom well-cast DC Comics reboot
Gunn’s ‘Superman’ Grounds High-Flying Hero

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1 Its Fricking Friday

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 07:31 AM (gbOdA)

2 Good morning horde! Happy Friday!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:31 AM (ExV1e)

3 It's Flapjack Friday!

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 07:32 AM (e5NfL)

4 Yonder Horde

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 07:33 AM (Q4IgG)

5 Happy Friday, everyone!

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 07:33 AM (lXoJ5)

6 Bravo, JJ!

Gut shabbes and have a happy weekend!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 07:34 AM (dKEEs)

7 Good morning horde

Posted by: QED Texan at July 11, 2025 07:34 AM (HFrTp)

8 The DOJ has officially closed the Prince Andrew case.

If Blondi and her two flunkies think this is going to be hand waved away, Jedi mind trick style, they are sadly mistaken.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 07:35 AM (XV/Pl)

9 6 Bravo, JJ!

Gut shabbes and have a happy weekend!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 07:34 AM (dKEEs)

Good Shabbos, good yuntif!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2025 07:35 AM (x0n13)

10 John Fetterman being the surprising lone voice of sanity and reason in that Snake Pit of Evil

A reminder that Fetterman will make mouth noises in support of Israel but if the Democrats needed his vote to send all American Jews to the incinerator they'd get it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:36 AM (ExV1e)

11 Off to another day of jury duty for me. As ancient as I am, I was only ever called up once before, but was unselected after a few rounds. This is a Grand Jury, which is a different animal. Secret stuff. Some of it's kind of funny, despite the fact that it's for the most serious crimes.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 07:36 AM (hOOi9)

12
Fetterman may be a voice of sanity and reason, but he's never cast a vote of sanity and reason. When courage is required, he'll always scurry back to the lunatic rez.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 11, 2025 07:36 AM (HZi96)

13 3 It's Flapjack Friday!
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS)

This man just won't let me rest in peace!

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at July 11, 2025 07:37 AM (G5+As)

14 ... openly call for violent resistance to Ice and law enforcement in carrying out their legitimate duties to arrest, detain and deport illegal aliens...

The Democrats are guilty of a lack of imagination. For the entirety of the lives of every single Democrat officeholder, domestic political violence has only ever come from their side. They believe it to be axiomatic that this will always be the case despite countless examples to the contrary in other countries.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:39 AM (ExV1e)

15 3 It's Flapjack Friday!
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 11, 2025 07:32 AM (e5NfL)

Super authority on stove top cooking breakfast Mrs Douglas calls them

FLAPJACKZ

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 07:40 AM (gbOdA)

16 10 John Fetterman being the surprising lone voice of sanity and reason in that Snake Pit of Evil

A reminder that Fetterman will make mouth noises in support of Israel but if the Democrats needed his vote to send all American Jews to the incinerator they'd get it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:36 AM (ExV1e)

While sadly no doubt this is true. The fact that he opens his mouth at all, merely for temporary local political expediency, is still welcome and helpful, even if just for the short term.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2025 07:41 AM (x0n13)

17 Elsewhere, President Trumps near 180 degree pivot on Ukraine is disappointing if not outright alarming in its potential implications.

While the linked article says "there are signs he’s pivoting on Ukraine", no example of these signs are provided. I shall refrain from wetting my pants at this time.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:42 AM (ExV1e)

18 Too many complacent, disaffected non-voters out in the hinterlands share a huge part of the blame for all our problems.
I.E., conservative Utah is 49th of 57 states in voter turnout.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 11, 2025 07:43 AM (P0m9n)

19 "Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself."

OK, I'm morbidly curious what Discount Gary Busey is going to say.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 07:44 AM (lXoJ5)

20 "The real issue with Epstein is accountability."

It's the issue across the board not just with Epstein. But Trump has apparently taken stock of the costs of accountability with Epstein and concluded they are too high. He can mitigate the political damage by forcing accountability elsewhere (and there are countless opportunities).

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 07:44 AM (WHfpM)

21 "He can mitigate the political damage by forcing accountability elsewhere (and there are countless opportunities)."

The timing of the announcement that Comey / Brennan were being targeted criminally wasn't a coincidence.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2025 07:47 AM (dtajH)

22 Good morning, J.J.
Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Inogame at July 11, 2025 07:48 AM (53oGX)

23 I'm assuming the entire financial world comes crashing down if Trump really and truly goes after the deepest of the pedophile cult.
I'd still be happy with one solitary prosecution.

Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at July 11, 2025 07:49 AM (P0m9n)

24 meh, make ~~star~~ Death chambers great again - jjs

Fixed It

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 07:49 AM (gbOdA)

25 17 Elsewhere, President Trumps near 180 degree pivot on Ukraine is disappointing if not outright alarming in its potential implications.

While the linked article says "there are signs he’s pivoting on Ukraine", no example of these signs are provided. I shall refrain from wetting my pants at this time.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:42 AM (ExV1e)

I heard that he is agreeing to provide defensive weapons.

Yeah, it's amazing, after 5 or 6 years of Trump that people take any development regarding him at face value.

It's all negotiating, and keeping the involved parties off-balance. Everything could change at a moment's notice.

Regarding this stuff, he recently said that these defensive weapons are "hard to get", and maybe even that we need to stock up on them for ourselves first.

But bedwetters gonna bedwet. What we really know for sure is that he wants it ended. Less certain is the theory that Ukraine's war is a Globalist money-laundering operation, and that Putin (as opposed to Russia as a whole) is also anti-Globalist. But Trump DOES seem to be working with Putin on things (Putin denied weapons to Iran, for example).

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 07:50 AM (hOOi9)

26 RE: Epstein files

We all know Trump was falsely accused, in a civil suit, by one of Epstein's victims. What's the likelyhood that same info is included as part of the raw, unvetted, informtion in the Epstein case files? Along with any other's falsley accused? Do you trust the public to fairly distinguish the false accusations from solid evidence in a unredacted and full release of the Epstein files?

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 11, 2025 07:50 AM (xqQi7)

27 @21

>>The timing of the announcement that Comey / Brennan were being targeted criminally wasn't a coincidence.

That's not accountability, that's boob bait for bubbas.

You don't announce your investigating people.

The way people are alerted they are being investigated is through grand jury indictments, not media notices.

It's bullsh*t and it's disappointing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 07:50 AM (XV/Pl)

28 The problem with the Jeff Epstein fiasco is anything built on lies cannot last. Like the old Soviet Union and all it's party members, agents and lackeys on their payroll. If the federales want to cover it up because they sit on a Throne Of Lies and need to protect all the important assholes around the world, fine. But sooner or later the truth will come out.

Posted by: Lies, Lies and More Lies at July 11, 2025 07:51 AM (lX1hk)

29 But President Trump's meddling in a war between Russia and Ukraine that has much less if not zero national security ramifications for America, unlike the Iranian nuclear program, is a head-scratcher.

This isn't 4D chess, this is total capitulation to the Endless War Neocons™ I'm sure that this was part of the deal to get the B³ passed - join in the death dirge of Make America Last Again.

Trump is giving away America's last round of Patriot missiles to a dictator thug who won't stop until he is cut off from Endless Plunder of the West.

Trump has lost all credibility to me on "stopping the needless deaths".

We still have out tax cuts and illegals are still being deported so we have that - but the destruction of America is still on notch 7

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 07:51 AM (a4flb)

30 Mr. Sefton has edumacated me again. I was born in Brooklyn in 1955, lived in NYS until 1988, and had little or no recollection of Herbert Lehman. Thanks, JJS!

Posted by: NY Refugee at July 11, 2025 07:52 AM (G5+As)

31 Education Department Ends Postsecondary Education Grants for Illegal Aliens

One could argue, and I do, that anyone who authorized a federal grant for someone known to be an illegal is guilty of aiding and abetting the illegal's ongoing criminal activity and should, at a minimum, be fired.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:53 AM (ExV1e)

32 20 "The real issue with Epstein is accountability."

It's the issue across the board not just with Epstein. But Trump has apparently taken stock of the costs of accountability with Epstein and concluded they are too high. He can mitigate the political damage by forcing accountability elsewhere (and there are countless opportunities).
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 07:44 AM (WHfpM)

That's one possibility. Another theory is that he's trying to make the targets think they're no longer targets, so that they can be caught by surprise, without the opportunity to flee the country, or cause damage of some kind. There's a large network to take down, and it's an incredibly powerful one.

Let's give them a little benefit of the doubt. Trump isn't going to let that crap go unpunished.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 07:54 AM (hOOi9)

33 Off to another day of jury duty for me. As ancient as I am, I was only ever called up once before, but was unselected after a few rounds. This is a Grand Jury, which is a different animal. Secret stuff. Some of it's kind of funny, despite the fact that it's for the most serious crimes.
Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 07:36 AM (hOOi9)
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I was selected for a grand jury several years ago. Interesting experience, but you do get to hear a lot of very, very bad stuff. The sex crime stuff was the worst.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 11, 2025 07:54 AM (7fElN)

34 Resist facism!

Posted by: A Educater at July 11, 2025 07:54 AM (vFG9F)

35 How to Jump-Start America’s Nuclear Industry

This is one of those moments of "The rot runs deep." One of the problems I see is that even if we paved the way for new plants to be built, the protests and lawsuits are going to delay things even more.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 07:54 AM (lXoJ5)

36 Trump and the machinations of the Blob regarding foreign policy and the War Machine's business plan of regime change:

Why aren't you all highlighting any of the work of Mike Benz? @MikeBenzCyber.

He and Sundance and @datarepublican (small r) are showing us what the Blob is doing.

Trump is trying to navigate a den of vipers, focus on them and not Trump and his Admin.

Imagine yourselves in the throne of Sodom on Potomac and how you would handle it.

Putin made a deal with China and I imagine Trump is telling him that China wants Siberia back; imagine how you would negotiate at this level. Snakes. All of them.

Posted by: Danimal28 at July 11, 2025 07:55 AM (nT4HF)

37 Russia as of right now will likely win the war and even if Trump does push Putin and Shecky Zelensky to a negotiation table, does anyone really think that Putin is going to surrender a single inch of territory? Regardless of the fact that Putin started this latest round of war, there is going to have to be some give and take on both sides, so what will Ukraine give up in order to stop the carnage?

Putin may give back some territory around the edges but the Donbas and Crimea are never going back to Ukraine unless the Untied States goes to war with Russia and takes them back.

That isn’t happening.

Putin has laid out his demands to end the war repeatedly, but D.C. and the E.U. don’t like the demands and instead pretend they can dictate the terms to Putin as though we’re winning this thing. It’s a stalemate and Russia is consolidating its gains while pushing west to capture more territory.

Putin won’t stop until he gets a guarantee of no future Ukraine membership in NATO, preferably with new leadership at the helm.

The EU, having sold this entire war as an existential crisis, can’t stop now. They want to build their dream army and this war is the only way they can do that

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 07:55 AM (6ydKt)

38 EXCLUSIVE: Top Trump Officials Admit They’re Pissed At How The Epstein Story Was Handled

Name names or it's all bullshit.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:56 AM (ExV1e)

39 Name names or it's all bullshit.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:56 AM (ExV1e)

What do you think happened?

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 11, 2025 07:57 AM (xqQi7)

40 "I think a better use of our military forces would be to degrade and destroy Antifa and those who are funding them here at home. "

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:30 AM

No. Absolutely not. That's not what the armed forces are for. We have plenty of cops in America. We have the FBI. We can find them and arrest them and put them in jail. And the cops are well armed enough to fight them on the street if necessary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 07:57 AM (P7SgQ)

41 Texas Senate Primary for Cornyn Seat Heats Up as Paxton Splits with Wife, Trump Mulls Engaging

Not sure how Paxton's impending divorce is relevant to him being a better choice for Senate than Cornyn.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:58 AM (ExV1e)

42 >Alan Dershowitz: ‘I know For a Fact’ Epstein Files ‘Are Being Suppressed to Protect Individuals’–‘I Know the Names!’
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"I know everything, but I can't talk about it."

then what's the f***ing point of saying so?

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 07:58 AM (AOsQT)

43 Democrat Star Jasmine Crockett Falsely Claims ‘All Violence Coming from MAGA’

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Is this the zenith, the apex of projection or what? This has to be the single biggest lie I've ever seen in a very, very long time. Like, so bad it's hard to believe she didn't spontaneously combust right on the spot. There are a lot of truly scummy vermin (as in most of them) in the Democratic Party, but she has risen to the top of the dung heap as one of the most execrable people they have. And that really is saying something.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 11, 2025 07:59 AM (qBdHI)

44 This isn't 4D chess, this is total capitulation to the Endless War Neocons™ I'm sure that this was part of the deal to get the B³ passed - join in the death dirge of Make America Last Again.
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Trump has lost all credibility to me on "stopping the needless deaths".
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Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 07:51 AM (a4flb)

Trump proves the naysayers wrong every time, and yet they still never get it. Yeah, he is a genius - the kind that makes regular geniuses look silly in comparison. And yeah, it IS "4D chess". I'm sure it's way over your head, but try to watch and learn anyway.

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 07:59 AM (hOOi9)

45 Again, what exactly is the point of providing more arms to Ukraine other than getting more Ukrainian's killed?

Also, our defense budget is now over 1T dollars, that's 1/6 of the overall budget is now military spending.

This is ridiculous.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 08:00 AM (XV/Pl)

46 Flooding is part of the hill country. This was a bad one but it’s happened before in the last 40 years. Maybe 1990 or 91? Not sure what to think of geoengineering, except that weather is too hard to manipulate to even bother.

Posted by: H at July 11, 2025 08:00 AM (2gjbv)

47 Do you trust the public to fairly distinguish the false accusations from solid evidence in a unredacted and full release of the Epstein files?

Absolutely not, and Bondi is trying to figure out ways to make a bad situation worse by the way she is incompetently handling this.

Trump was all in on Transparency, and to date it has served him very well with reëstablishing credibility with a understandably cynical public. The Three Stooges are messing this up so much, that it almost looks more like sabotage rather than raw incompetence.

• admit that there is a mountain of evidence
• tell people that the three-letter agencies have worked over the years to exploit espionage and extortion opportunities and have taken money to destroy inconvenient records
• handing the data over to the Fifth Column media will result in character assassination and the destruction of innocent by-standers.
• exposure of some guilty people is a National Security issue. Admit that some people are too big to jail.

We already know this and already have hatred and contempt for all of those involved.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:00 AM (a4flb)

48 42 >Alan Dershowitz: ‘I know For a Fact’ Epstein Files ‘Are Being Suppressed to Protect Individuals’–‘I Know the Names!’
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"I know everything, but I can't talk about it."

then what's the f***ing point of saying so?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 07:58 AM (AOsQT)

Excuse me, but isn't Dershowitz literally one of those names? LOL

Posted by: MrExcitement at July 11, 2025 08:01 AM (hOOi9)

49 24 meh, make Death chambers great again

Honestly, I have little moral problem with this. Antifa despises this country, they have made it clear that they want everything destroyed because they believe something beautiful will rise up from the ashes.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 08:01 AM (lXoJ5)

50 If Trump did a data dump on Epstein right now it'd create a Biblical ShitStorm, with lots of potential for blowback. You can't fight on all fronts all the time.

Either our Deep State of Mossad or both would be exposed for using young American girls to blackmail US potentates. And the identities of the potentates may be surprising. Now's not the time.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 11, 2025 08:01 AM (dtajH)

51 When the Pantifa terrorists fired at the ICE agents, did they fire back? They are armed, aren't they? Shoot a few of these parasites, and they'll be screaming things a lot worse than "What the f*** have we gotten ourselves into?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 08:02 AM (omVj0)

52 @42

>>then what's the f***ing point of saying so?

More than likely as part of the agreement to drop charges against him, he had to sign and agree to an NDA with the penalty probably being prosecution for the other things they could have hit him with.

These people are not fooling around, Dersh would be prosecuted.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 08:02 AM (XV/Pl)

53 Also, our defense budget is now over 1T dollars, that's 1/6 of the overall budget is now military spending.

What good is it to have a fully funded and capable military if you don't intend to use it?

Idle Hands = Devil's Workshop

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:02 AM (a4flb)

54 The DOJ has officially closed the Prince Andrew case.

If Blondi and her two flunkies think this is going to be hand waved away, Jedi mind trick style, they are sadly mistaken.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 07:35 AM (XV/Pl)

A few things to keep in mind...

1. Prince Andrew is not an American citizen.
2. Insofar as I'm aware, Andrew did not engage in amorous exploits with his accuser in the US.
3. Nothing Andrew is alleged to have done with his accuser was illegal.

Why would the US DOJ be working a case on it?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:03 AM (ExV1e)

55 Good morning!

Posted by: Hacked gp's Feed Off The Bird at July 11, 2025 08:03 AM (TwZXH)

56 Morning all

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:03 AM (8v2yu)

57 Thank you JJ. Happy Friday all

So here in Texas, Angela Paxton files for divorce from Ken. Cornyn will try to take advantage no doubt. Unfortunate

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:04 AM (nrfI8)

58 While sadly no doubt this is true. The fact that he opens his mouth at all, merely for temporary local political expediency, is still welcome and helpful, even if just for the short term.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2025 07:41 AM (x0n13)

Fair enough. Silence won't change the culture.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:04 AM (ExV1e)

59 Alan Dershowitz had some things to say on 𝕏 about the Epstein case as he was a defendant. Can't remember who he was with... some podcast I think. But if he's telling the truth the DoJ is pretty much full of shit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 08:05 AM (Q4IgG)

60 41 Texas Senate Primary for Cornyn Seat Heats Up as Paxton Splits with Wife, Trump Mulls Engaging

Not sure how Paxton's impending divorce is relevant to him being a better choice for Senate than Cornyn.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 07:58 AM (ExV1e)

Wife lists adultery as one of her grounds for divorce apparently. There's definitely a part of the GOP base here in Texas that will not love this.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 08:05 AM (y+qgR)

61 New York City socialist's mayoral platform includes a call to replace cops with 'crisis responders' in 'mental health' cases
Zohran Mamdani Called To Stop Sending Cops to People 'Going Through Domestic Violence'

Mental health workers aren't going to stop strangulation (mostly not leading to death but a leading factor in domestic violence.) The police need to be called, especially when there are children in the home.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 11, 2025 08:05 AM (SfhV1)

62 The anti-Trumpists are screaming that his cuts (which have not yet actually happened) led to less than the optimal two staffers being on duty at NOAA. LIE: There were five on duty.

A local "lawmaker" is complaining, too, that rural hospitals will be forced to close and many Medicaid recipients will die. Well, sir, a lot of those recipients are illegal and shouldn't be here, let alone be receiving citizens' benefits . . . and if the legal *and able-bodied* citizens need to work to receive the benefits, what's wrong with that?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 11, 2025 08:06 AM (omVj0)

63 @54

>>Why would the US DOJ be working a case on it?

Because Epstein was running an international prostitution, child *** and extortion racket, and PA was one of his main clients.

Again, I understand, they are closing the books on Epstein, so they are ending cases.

It's bullsh*t and this is not going to go away no matter what they do.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 08:06 AM (XV/Pl)

64 Also I thought that the idea of 'chemtrails' had been debunked.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 08:06 AM (AOsQT)

65 Whooda thunk Trump might not follow thru on promises made? So bewildering. I've decided to just tune out. Enjoy the brief economic boom we'll enjoy for the next 3 and then keep fingers crossed for what's left of mine and my young daughter's future.

Posted by: Blake Wm at July 11, 2025 08:06 AM (zl5lT)

66 40 "I think a better use of our military forces would be to degrade and destroy Antifa and those who are funding them here at home. "

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:30 AM

No. Absolutely not. That's not what the armed forces are for. We have plenty of cops in America. We have the FBI. We can find them and arrest them and put them in jail. And the cops are well armed enough to fight them on the street if necessary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 07:57 AM (P7SgQ)

One way or another the Trump Admin must show the Leftist thugs and Trump's supporters the thugs no longer have impunity from all crimes other than murder. Will that deter the thug directors and most thugs? Not in the immediate future. Ya gotta start somewhere. We voted for it.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 08:06 AM (aBgBM)

67 I heard that he is agreeing to provide defensive weapons.

Unless Ukrainian women start popping out 18 year old babies, all the weapons in the world won't make an ounce of difference. Far too many young Ukrainian men have been slaughtered in the name of expanding the borders of GloboHomo.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:07 AM (ExV1e)

68 "Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself."

O golly, yes! Do it!

*hilarity ensues*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 08:07 AM (dKEEs)

69 Regarding Russia and Ukraine…. Trump is a deal maker. I think he’s pivoting to Ukraine out of frustration with Putin who’s only been escalating the whole thing the last few months…. Anyone who ever thought Trump was a Putin pawn just weren’t paying attention. It’s simple: Trump wants that war to end ASAP… he was frustrated with Zelensky when he was the impediment and now he’s frustrated with Putin for the same reason

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:07 AM (nrfI8)

70 Epstein? Meh. I've always thought it was like Area 51. A government bent on never telling us anything leads to some people wildly speculating or wish casting. There's some criminal activity at the heart of it, but if you think there are pictures of Obama, Hillary, Pope Francis and a 13 year old in bed together, I have bad news for you.

Posted by: Wally at July 11, 2025 08:07 AM (96iig)

71 The police need to be called, especially when there are children in the home.

They don't care. A few deaths in return for not letting those mean cops stop mentally ill people from expressing themselves is a small price to pay. Onward towards utopia!

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 08:08 AM (lXoJ5)

72 I don't expect Trump to be right on everything. But nobody is. I'm still a Trump supporter, and when I stop and think what could be in the White House I am even more thankful for Trump.

Posted by: Case at July 11, 2025 08:08 AM (ilX37)

73 Paxton's affair was the instigating incident of his corruption investigation and impeachment. It was on the news every day for a year or so in Texas. His wife is a Texas senator. She sat in the Senate and listened to the testimony.

1. This is already baked into the cake for Texas voters. They know and still prefer Paxton to Cornyn.

2. This was going to come up in the campaign. Something something woman scorned. Should have looked at resolving this with his wife somewhere along the way. Should have a ready comms strategy.

Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at July 11, 2025 08:08 AM (UpwUi)

74 Hey jj class to music no djt day what iowa the pandering to sir farm. Saying this it that going to thanks amnesty to millions and migrants working what you agricultural the hospitality industries?;/

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 11, 2025 08:09 AM (jSCAx)

75 Morning all. Trump does not want to be blamed for the Russian Flag flying in the middle of Kiev. Europe is worthless, especially the Germans

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:09 AM (YCxFk)

76 Alan Dershowitz had some things to say on 𝕏 about the Epstein case as he was a defendant. Can't remember who he was with... some podcast I think. But if he's telling the truth the DoJ is pretty much full of shit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 08:05 AM (Q4IgG)

Nothing Dershowitz said contradicts with DOJ's memo from earlier in the week. Dershowitz was talking about protecting false accusers, whereas DOJ has a policy of not exposing the identity of purported victims if they choose to remain anonymous.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 11, 2025 08:09 AM (xqQi7)

77 Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 07:51 AM (a4flb)

Refresh my memory, weren't you one of the people complaining about how Trump was getting us into a forever war in Iran?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:10 AM (ExV1e)

78 Pam Bondi as the disciplinarian… Hmm, well that woke me up!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:10 AM (nrfI8)

79 40 "I think a better use of our military forces would be to degrade and destroy Antifa and those who are funding them here at home. "

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at 07:30 AM

No. Absolutely not. That's not what the armed forces are for. We have plenty of cops in America. We have the FBI. We can find them and arrest them and put them in jail. And the cops are well armed enough to fight them on the street if necessary.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 07:57 AM (P7SgQ)

True, but I'm angry/cranky and it's early.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2025 08:10 AM (x0n13)

80 @72

>>I'm still a Trump supporter, and when I stop and think what could be in the White House I am even more thankful for Trump.

Nobody is jumping off the Trump train, people are PTFO over this Epstein business, this is not what was promised and them just doing a 180 and telling everyone to get over it is not going to play out the way they drew it up.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 08:10 AM (XV/Pl)

81 My gut (big one) tells me that High level American Intelligence assetts are on the Epstein list

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:10 AM (YCxFk)

82 “Morale is in the crapper,” a former ICE agent told Miroff on the condition of anonymity out of fear of repercussions. “Even those that are gung ho about the mission aren’t happy with how they are asking to execute it – the quotas and the shift to the low-hanging fruit to make the numbers.”

I hope they have horrific nightmares every single night for decades. You shat your own bed, you can lie in it. Current ICE agents will be all but unemployable under future admins.

I'll bet there are a substantial number of them that are relishing it. What person wants to be an ICE agent to begin with.

At what price are they selling their souls to do this inhumane deed? Trump will have to fill the ranks by pardoning more (Aryan) thugs.

Don't believe it. Wth the incredible amount of money ICE just got, one can assume the bounties will get even larger which will attract all the bounty hunters they will need.

It's only a matter of time before they face armed resistance. They are part of a truly evil organization, people are going to fight back soon.

They're not miserable enough. Mock them. Humiliate them and make the job psychologically hurt.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 11, 2025 08:10 AM (ycI94)

83 They don't care. A few deaths in return for not letting those mean cops stop mentally ill people from expressing themselves is a small price to pay. Onward towards utopia!

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 08:08 AM (lXoJ5)

This commie dude in New York seems to think that domestic violence just means a little spat between husband and wife. Nothing that a good marriage counselor can't fix.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 11, 2025 08:11 AM (SfhV1)

84 Putin has lost all trust in dealing with the West.

As the Russians have repeatedly stated that they were promised by Jim Baker that NATO would not move an inch east, and for the past thirty years it’s gone further and further towards Moscow.

I’m no Russophile but they were really treated terribly by the West in that regard.

Putin was practically begging W. to join NATO and we basically brushed them off and then went to war in the M.E. while NATO got more aggressive gobbling up Eastern Europe.

Angela Merkel has admitted that the Minsk Accords, meant to stop the fighting in eastern Ukraine after 2014 were designed solely to give Ukraine time to rearm and take back the lost territories.

So the Russians don’t believe the West negotiates in good faith, and don’t trust our leadership to keep their word on any agreements made.

Putin has decided to take what he needs and dictate the end of the war on his own terms because of all that.

He’ll try to negotiate with Trump but he knows the U.S. is only half the problem and the EU & Ukraine are the intransigent parties preventing an agreement because they want to keep fighting no matter what the Americans are doing.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 08:12 AM (6ydKt)

85 This is one of those moments of "The rot runs deep." One of the problems I see is that even if we paved the way for new plants to be built, the protests and lawsuits are going to delay things even more.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 07:54 AM (lXoJ5)

Shoot the protesters, make the plaintiffs post a $1B bond to sue.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:12 AM (ExV1e)

86 Is this the zenith, the apex of projection or what?

She is caught up in an epic case of Mimetic Double Bind.

MDB is when the social dysfunction of a collection of idiots are always attempting to out-do the other, like oligarchs trying to build the higher status mega yacht.

In this case, she and her competitors have hit a resonant frequency. Think about the Tacoma Narrows Bridge (aka Galloping Gertie) in 1940 where during strong sustained winds it got into a self-reinforcing oscillation such where it violently tore itself apart.

For her though, it is Mission Accomplished. In all of the noise, with all of her competitors looking to be on top, we have noticed and are saying her name.

"It doesn't matter what the newspapers say about me as long as they spell my name right." - P.T. Barnum

"There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about" - Oscar Wilde

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:12 AM (a4flb)

87 Stock Market all time High, Inflation plunging, Border Secure, Iran finally neutered . But we online want to dwell on Epstein?

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:13 AM (YCxFk)

88 68 "Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself."

O golly, yes! Do it!

*hilarity ensues*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at July 11, 2025 08:07 AM (dKEEs)

I'm guessing Routh's lawyer pressed Routh to cut a plea bargain with the prosecution, but Routh wants a trial so he can put on a show.

Posted by: Gref at July 11, 2025 08:13 AM (aBgBM)

89 Do we all realize Putin is worth over 200 Billion?

The guy is protecting his money like every other Dictator history

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:14 AM (YCxFk)

90 This commie dude in New York seems to think that domestic violence just means a little spat between husband and wife.

He's a Muslim. Beating your wife is how you solve the little spat. He can't grasp why a cop should be involved.

Shoot the protesters, make the plaintiffs post a $1B bond to sue.

Or let them know that they don't have the right to sue.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 08:14 AM (lXoJ5)

91 @46.
The last flooding in the Texas hill country that I remember that resulted in deaths was in 1987.

Posted by: Case at July 11, 2025 08:16 AM (ilX37)

92 We will finally Confirm a new Federal Judge on Monday. For the 6th Circuit of appeals, and she is replacing a Obama appointee.

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:16 AM (YCxFk)

93 Seven times stronger than Viagra. That's me.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 08:16 AM (W3T6M)

94 Following the Trump back and forth here.

At this point, anyone can be excused for not being willing to give the benefit of the doubt to ANY politician. In fact, I'd expect it.

That includes Trump.

With the facts on the ground, he is now supplying materiel to a guy he absolutely embarrassed only a few months ago to much public support. What strategy exists? Sure, maybe there's some grand plan that serves our interests, but probably not.

Any association with Ukraine at this point is stupid.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:16 AM (DJPFk)

95 No. Absolutely not. That's not what the armed forces are for. We have plenty of cops in America. We have the FBI.

... we have the FBI...

CBD is trolling us.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:16 AM (a4flb)

96 Any association with Ukraine at this point is ~~stupid~~ evil.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:17 AM (a4flb)

97 CBD is trolling us.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:16 AM (a4flb)

Never!

Well...sometimes.

Okay...most of the time.

But not this time.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 08:18 AM (P7SgQ)

98 What do you think happened?
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 11, 2025 07:57 AM (xqQi7)

No idea and, honestly, I don't care. AFAIK, no victims have come forward demanding justice. Epstein is dead - no matter who killed him. Maxwell is in prison - no matter how odd the whole thing is.

There are other, more immediate concerns with affect the nation. Trump, et al, can only focus on so much. There are a group of people who will latch onto absolutely anything in order to complain about Trump... whatever.

My biggest complaint, and the thing which prompted my comment, is I'm sick to death with "unnamed Administration personnel said" stories. They're almost always bullshit. We've called them out here before but now that the unnamed sources are supporting an issue people have been emotionally manipulated about, we just accept that they're real, important, and have no ulterior motive.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:18 AM (ExV1e)

99 How to Jump-Start America’s Nuclear Industry

Bush totally fucked this up. On 9/12 he had a perfect reason to make America more energy independent.
He should have order NERC and DoE to survey every military base for locating a standard mass produced reactor and to offer grid operators 50 year fixed prices.
The Navy has more experience in nukes than the rest of the world put together.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:18 AM (gbOdA)

100
I read Dershowitz as DershowBIZ. . .

And so a new nickname is born!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2025 08:18 AM (x0n13)

101 As for Trump, is he merely doing this to get a Nobel Peace Prize, which would never happen anyway?
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LOL no. I think this is a question that fully and utterly misunderstands Trump. I think DJT has much much bigger fish to fry here. He is trying to change the world into a place that's better for America, not win awards.

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What does Donald Trump and the USA have to gain by meddling here and potentially getting involved in a war that could very quickly get out of hand where a lot of hair would get mussed
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My guess is he is trying to ramp up the pressure on Putin and equally demonstrate to both sides that he is no one's puppet. When Trump doesn't like a game he will attempt to change the rules to get his desired outcome. It's always been his way. Then his outcome appears as if out of nowhere and it looks like he gets "lucky".

Posted by: ... at July 11, 2025 08:19 AM (Qr870)

102 then what's the f***ing point of saying so?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 07:58 AM (AOsQT)

He got a column published, didn't he?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:19 AM (ExV1e)

103 if you think there are pictures of Obama, Hillary, Pope Francis and a 13 year old in bed together, I have bad news for you.
Posted by: Wally at July 11, 2025 08:07 AM (96iig)

It's 2025. Videos with sound. Like the one of Bob Kraft at the old Rub N Tug, which was paid for with police tax dollars, that a judge in Florida had destroyed because Bob's attorneys asked the judge to destroy it. The Sunshine Law only applies to the poors.

Posted by: Zombie Larry Flynt at July 11, 2025 08:19 AM (lX1hk)

104 Someone I know well… I know they voted for Trump and yet now out of the blue they’ve lost their mind and is stuck in Trump hate because (get this): Trump (and ICE) are arresting and deporting “dreamers”… people who were brought here when they were 3 and it’s not their fault and they’ve lived here their whole life and now Trump is deporting them it’s cruel and wrong.

There’s no way to argue with this irrationality. So I went to the internet and asked if ICE is deporting dreamers and the internet and AI lies to me… feeds me one-off stories from fake news outfits like NBC where some college student is mistakenly caught up in a sweep.

But they’re not primary targets. But logic and reason don’t matter. It’s frustrating

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:21 AM (ANuwa)

105 87 Stock Market all time High, Inflation plunging, Border Secure, Iran finally neutered . But we online want to dwell on Epstein?
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My guess is that Trump & Co want to achieve moar meaningful things at present than dive into the sewer that is deep state. So they sidelined Epstein theater in favor of achieving lasting near term gains. These gains far outweigh any public reveals available with the Boner Club. It is also quite possible that not revealing the Boner Club defangs Boner Club.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 08:21 AM (W3T6M)

106 Morning all. Trump does not want to be blamed for the Russian Flag flying in the middle of Kiev.

When the Russian flag is flying in what is left of Kiev, Trump will still be blamed, just like Trump is being blamed for rain in Texas.

Trump's advisors on Ukraine should be dismissed with great prejudice. I'm assuming that his intel is coming from the same Department of State that masterminded the Ukraine/Russia imbroglio by overthrowing the Ukraine government and installing this demon Z then pissing all over any agreements with Russia.

Rubio is just one guy against a Leviathan of America Hating Globalists who are pissed off about their skulldudgery slush fund being gutted.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:21 AM (a4flb)

107 Blondi and co won't release the list of Epstein clients because the Deep State has demanded that it not be release - likely because it will destroy the faith that people have in their government.

Well, good. People shouldn't trust the American government as constituted because it gives you Epstein Island, the Clot Shot, and if it can manage it WWIII in Ukraine.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:21 AM (t0Rmr)

108 I must admit to serious disappointment when I heard we're still sending arms to Ukraine and its punk dictator.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 08:22 AM (WHfpM)

109 Stock Market all time High, Inflation plunging, Border Secure, Iran finally neutered . But we online want to dwell on Epstein?

Yes. I'm sick and tired of two Americas where the connected skate no matter what horrible things they do

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:22 AM (t0Rmr)

110 Stock Market all time High, Inflation plunging, Border Secure, Iran finally neutered . But we online want to dwell on Epstein?

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Priorities!

Jennifer Love Hewitt has a nice rack.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:23 AM (DJPFk)

111 ‘Research’ On Abortion, Birth Control, And Breast Cancer Is Just As Corrupt As Trans Treatments

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This was a good article. I knew there was supposedly a connection to lack of pregnancy, use of contraception to forgo pregnancy, or ending pregnancy via abortion to breast cancer, but this explains the whys. The development of the tissue/cells within the breast through full term pregnancy that become cancer-resistant forever. And that doctors all know this, but it's completely verboten to advise patients of this information. My, what the medical community has become.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 11, 2025 08:23 AM (qBdHI)

112 "Bush totally fucked this up."

"This"? Why so selective?

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 08:23 AM (KAi1n)

113 Morning all. Trump does not want to be blamed for the Russian Flag flying in the middle of Kiev.

Why is this more important then the Taliban flag flying over Kabul or hell the Communist flag flying over Saigon?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:23 AM (t0Rmr)

114 It is also quite possible that not revealing the Boner Club defangs Boner Club.

Which is the exact opposite take I took. When declaring the lies about the Epstein case, it wasn't to inform Americans, it was to inform the criminal scum that they are off the hook, and to not fear the DOJ.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:23 AM (a4flb)

115 109. You are right. If Bill Clinton is on that list, the CIA would never allow it to be shown anyways.

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:24 AM (YCxFk)

116 I'm sick to death with "unnamed Administration personnel said" stories

Agreed. That "Anonymous Sources" dude is an asshole even if he says something favorable to my side of a debate.

likely because it will destroy the faith that people have in their government.

Yeah...I have really bad news for you about that.

Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 08:24 AM (lXoJ5)

117 Wife lists adultery as one of her grounds for divorce apparently.

While I'm not denying her claim, Paxton is a politician and, therefore, a snake, wives claim a lot of shit when filing for divorce. In fact, the "red pill" men's movement is largely based on the state of divorce laws in America.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:24 AM (ExV1e)

118 It's National 7-Eleven Day.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 08:24 AM (NpAcC)

119 Morning all. Trump does not want to be blamed for the Russian Flag flying in the middle of Kiev.

Why is this more important then the Taliban flag flying over Kabul or hell the Communist flag flying over Saigon?

Or the Sodomy Flag flying over the White House, or the Palestinian/Gaza flags flying over American Universities, or the BLM flag flying over American "churches".

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:25 AM (a4flb)

120
Good morning, everyone. Heading out this morning for a three day off road trip on the motorcycle. Going to ride the Trans-America Trail (TAT) from Elkton, TN -to- just South of Corinth, MS. About 300 miles of 80/20 dirt and gravel forest service roads, and county two-lane roads. I'll be carefull, but a prayer would be very appreciated.

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2025 08:25 AM (QcUc+)

121 Morning Horde!

I saw Mimetic Double Bind open for Twisted Sister in '78.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at July 11, 2025 08:25 AM (LxER7)

122 Or the Sodomy Flag flying over the White House, or the Palestinian/Gaza flags flying over American Universities, or the BLM flag flying over American "churches"

I like your answers better then mine.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:26 AM (t0Rmr)

123 Good morning, everyone. Heading out this morning for a three day off road trip on the motorcycle. Going to ride the Trans-America Trail (TAT) from Elkton, TN -to- just South of Corinth, MS. About 300 miles of 80/20 dirt and gravel forest service roads, and county two-lane roads. I'll be carefull, but a prayer would be very appreciated.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2025 08:25 AM (QcUc+)

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Given, with the proviso that you report back on the experience. That sounds like an absolute fucking blast.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:26 AM (DJPFk)

124 Rubio is just one guy against a Leviathan of America Hating Globalists who are pissed off about their skulldudgery slush fund being gutted.
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If the Swells of Manhattan want to invade Russia then let them. Russia will eat them up and spit them out. Same deal with Frisco and China.

Posted by: pudinhead at July 11, 2025 08:26 AM (W3T6M)

125 WashPost Dork Philip Bump (on a log) Says Medicaid Isn’t Welfare If You Simply Don’t Call It Welfare (like Obamacare wasn't a tax - jjs)

TINSTAAFL

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:26 AM (gbOdA)

126 Good morning Horde, happy Friday. Thx JJ.
The Routh guy wanting to represent himself is a nightmare waiting to happen for the court. The old line " a person who represents himself has an idiot for a client" is spot on. He wants to put on a show and is enough of a pseudo intellectual to make the whole thing a mess

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 08:26 AM (JtH6i)

127 What do you think happened?
Posted by: Serious Cat at July 11, 2025 07:57 AM (xqQi7)

No idea and, honestly, I don't care. AFAIK, no victims have come forward demanding justice. Epstein is dead - no matter who killed him. Maxwell is in prison - no matter how odd the whole thing is.

I'm getting to that point. You have no accusers and no accused. With no accused, you have no crime.

Again, Maxwell peddled underaged girls to Epstein for what? Housekeeping duties on the island?

If you want to say for sex, there had better be johns named. Otherwise, no proof = no crime.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:27 AM (8v2yu)

128 Good morning, everyone. Heading out this morning for a three day off road trip on the motorcycle. Going to ride the Trans-America Trail (TAT) from Elkton, TN -to- just South of Corinth, MS. About 300 miles of 80/20 dirt and gravel forest service roads, and county two-lane roads. I'll be carefull, but a prayer would be very appreciated.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2025 08:25 AM (QcUc+)

dayum sounds like tmf

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:27 AM (gbOdA)

129 AFAIK, no victims have come forward demanding justice.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:18 AM (ExV1e)

Incorrect.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 08:28 AM (P7SgQ)

130 I must admit to serious disappointment when I heard we're still sending arms to Ukraine and its punk dictator.

Particularly when the money doesn't get much further past Babylon DC and Parisian luxury shopping centers, and when the actual weapons are more likely found on the black market and to some degree into the hands of the drug cartels.

These are two betrayals now by Trump to MAGA

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:28 AM (a4flb)

131 If the Swells of Manhattan want to invade Russia then let them. Russia will eat them up and spit them out. Same deal with Frisco and China.

The plan has always been to draft the kids from red states though.

They really, really would prefer a GOP president do it so in a couple of years the Dems can say they always opposed it...

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:28 AM (t0Rmr)

132 Because Epstein was running an international prostitution, child *** and extortion racket, and PA was one of his main clients.

Again, I understand, they are closing the books on Epstein, so they are ending cases.

It's bullsh*t and this is not going to go away no matter what they do.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 08:06 AM (XV/Pl)

1. Upon what do you base the claim that Andrew was "one of his main clients"?
2. Upon what do you base the claim that Andrew ever had sex with someone underage?
3. I note that nothing you've said here invalidates the fact that the DOJ would be investigating a non-US citizen for acts, even if illegal, which didn't occur in the US.

Perhaps the people running around shrieking about the issue every day should take a couple days off, let their emotions settle, and look at the issue anew. Although, no doubt, there'd be something else that Bondi was/wasn't doing that you'd all bitch about constantly.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (ExV1e)

133 Good morning, everyone. Heading out this morning for a three day off road trip on the motorcycle. Going to ride the Trans-America Trail (TAT) from Elkton, TN -to- just South of Corinth, MS. About 300 miles of 80/20 dirt and gravel forest service roads, and county two-lane roads. I'll be carefull, but a prayer would be very appreciated.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2025 08:25 AM (QcUc+)

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Given, with the proviso that you report back on the experience. That sounds like an absolute fucking blast.
Posted by: WitchDoktor

Report along the way. Even if it's just a quick one line "I'm Ok" once a day.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (8v2yu)

134 I can't remember the last time I was in a 7-11.

Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (Oy/m2)

135 ‘Signs of torture’ found on body of sacked Putin minister who ‘died 24 hours before’ apparent suicide

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (RHGPo)

136 No idea and, honestly, I don't care. AFAIK, no victims have come forward demanding justice. Epstein is dead - no matter who killed him. Maxwell is in prison - no matter how odd the whole thing is.

I'm getting to that point. You have no accusers and no accused. With no accused, you have no crime.

Again, Maxwell peddled underaged girls to Epstein for what? Housekeeping duties on the island?

If you want to say for sex, there had better be johns named. Otherwise, no proof = no crime.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:27 AM (8v2yu)

Under the deal, victims of Epstein who were affected by his sex trafficking during the time when he was a customer of Deutsche Bank, from 2013 through 2018, would receive at least $75,000 and up to $5 million depending on an evaluation of their claims.

Deutsche Bank spokesman Dylan Riddle would not comment on the deal, but noted that his bank has spent more than 4 billion euros [$4.34 billion] to strengthen internal financial controls.

4 billion in victims

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (gbOdA)

137 117 Wife lists adultery as one of her grounds for divorce apparently.

While I'm not denying her claim, Paxton is a politician and, therefore, a snake, wives claim a lot of shit when filing for divorce. In fact, the "red pill" men's movement is largely based on the state of divorce laws in America.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:24 AM (ExV1e)

You don't have to convince me. I assume every pol is a piece of shit, including the HQ's favorite president. The only question for me is: is this bum more or less likely do more of what I want policy-wise. But some people don't share my mercenary sensibilities.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (y+qgR)

138 "Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself."

OK, I'm morbidly curious what Discount Gary Busey is going to say.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 11, 2025 07:44 AM (lXoJ5)

DO IT! Going Pro Se was the best decision I ever made. You can tell your own story directly to the jury.

Posted by: Shirtless Darrell Brooks, Six Consecutive Life Sentences plus Bonus 762.5 years at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (wVcYX)

139 Particularly when the money doesn't get much further past Babylon DC and Parisian luxury shopping centers, and when the actual weapons are more likely found on the black market and to some degree into the hands of the drug cartels.

These are two betrayals now by Trump to MAGA
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:28 AM (a4flb)

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I view it as giving cash to one of those panhandlers at intersections holding the sign saying "disabled vet please help" or "I have four kids to feed."

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:30 AM (DJPFk)

140 Thanks, J.J. as always for your insights as well as the compilation of the links and time spent in keeping us informed. I find it depressing sometimes to read all the headlines as well as the links, so I'll just ask this? Is there one about the awful doctor who is now apologizing for her social media post about the Texas folks getting what they deserved? If not, here is a link from the "NY Post". This is why except for some church stuff I don't do FB etc. I can say enough stuff on here when I'm irritated. I don't need to broadcast my spur of the moment irritability or irrationality to the larger world. It didn't occur to her-as with the woman married or the girlfriend of the UU minister who said "Well, it was a racist Christian camp anyway"-That someone might object to their deranged rantings and they might get in trouble for it?!!

https://tinyurl.com/j42jfdxz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 08:30 AM (2GCMq)

141 135 ‘Signs of torture’ found on body of sacked Putin minister who ‘died 24 hours before’ apparent suicide
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (RHGPo)

First thing to do when hired by Putin is hide all your guns and get a ground floor apt.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:30 AM (gbOdA)

142 3. I note that nothing you've said here invalidates the fact that the DOJ would be investigating a non-US citizen for acts, even if illegal, which didn't occur in the US.

Wasn't Epstein Island part of the US Virgin Islands?

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:30 AM (8v2yu)

143 Mornin’, All. Happy Friday.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 08:30 AM (77rzZ)

144 >>>Paxton's affair was the instigating incident of his corruption investigation and impeachment.

That was in 2023. His wife wrote on social media that "recent discoveries" lead to her decision to file. Unless you consider 2023 to be "recent," it seems something else is going on there.

Posted by: one hour sober at July 11, 2025 08:30 AM (Y1sOo)

145 Jamie Dimon criticizes Zohran Mamdani as 'Marxist,' blasts Democrats' DEI push: 'Big hearts and little brain'

'I have a lot of friends who are Democrats, and they’re idiots,' Jamie Dimon said.

JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon panned New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani as "more a Marxist than a socialist" and criticized Democrats who he says spend too much time on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 08:31 AM (RHGPo)

146 134 I can't remember the last time I was in a 7-11.

Posted by: dantesed at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (Oy/m2)

We killed people during the COVID years for line cutting.

think about that

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:32 AM (gbOdA)

147 No idea and, honestly, I don't care. AFAIK....

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:18 AM (ExV1e)

Thanks. I don't care that much either, but I do believe the theory by Mike Benz that Epstein was an asset who helped move money for the CIA, going back to Iran-Contra Affair, and during his 2008 prosectution the State Department leaned on DOJ to let him off easy. It'd be a huge scandal for the agency if it came out they shielded an underage sex trafficker, but beyond that I don't think there's any there there.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 11, 2025 08:32 AM (xqQi7)

148 Wasn't Epstein Island part of the US Virgin Islands?
Posted by: rickb223

Apparently not the virgin part.

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 08:32 AM (KAi1n)

149 Stock Market all time High, Inflation plunging, Border Secure, Iran finally neutered . But we online want to dwell on Epsntein"

Doesn't generate klickys. Always moar outrage.

*gets morning popcorn*

Posted by: man at July 11, 2025 08:33 AM (tubbA)

150 118 It's National 7-Eleven Day.
Posted by: redridinghood

Whoopie! Gimme that Big Bite Hot dog that's been spinning on the rollers since 1994!

Posted by: Galloping Gourmet at July 11, 2025 08:33 AM (G5+As)

151 I assume Paxton was having an affair (though sometimes the FNM makes this stuff up), likely with the acceptance of his wife.

The reason this is coming up now though is clearly to derail his campaign.

And GOP voters have to group up and understand this stuff. You aren't voting for your minister. You are voting for the person that will represent your interests best in government

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:33 AM (t0Rmr)

152 "Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself."

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Ted Bundy did the same thing and we see how that turned out.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 11, 2025 08:34 AM (qBdHI)

153 TBH, I'd rather we had a government where ministers died when they screwed up enough.

If a few pols and commanding officers in 'Stan had "committed suicide after signs of torture" over that I would have approved.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:34 AM (t0Rmr)

154 Priorities!

Jennifer Love Hewitt has a nice rack.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:23 AM (DJPFk)

I know what she did 28 summers ago.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (wVcYX)

155 It's also...
National French Fry Day.🍟

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (NpAcC)

156 Pam definitely needs a spanking.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (ImXfC)

157 "But we online want to dwell on Epstein"

Do you Juan to dwell on Horshack?

HA HA HA HA

Posted by: Dark Litigator at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (KAi1n)

158 Fast forward to today. One of the infamous 51 “spies”, Michael Hayden, has now penned an article in Foreign Affairs, raising the alarm. DONALD TRUMP is politicizing intelligence and endangering our national security.

In Yiddish, they call this “chutzpah”.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (RHGPo)

159 4 billion in victims
Posted by: rhennigantx

And not one john arrested. No criminal = no crime.
Sorry.

If he were a customer of Deutsche Bank, why would they be on the hook? That would be like saying since the DC sniper used a Chevy van, Chevy is on the hook to pay the victims.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (8v2yu)

160 Do we all realize Putin is worth over 200 Billion?

Theoretically, the Sultan of Brunei is worth over a trillion. Should we go to war with them also?

Who cares what Putin is worth? It wouldn't be our problem if we weren't determined to make it our problem because so many people are mentally stuck in 1989.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (ExV1e)

161 "Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself."

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Ted Bundy did the same thing and we see how that turned out.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 11, 2025 08:34 AM (qBdHI)

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Ok, I have a dumb question. Can the Court -require- a defendant to accept legal counsel? Just wondering if a guy refusing even a free attorney would be grounds for appeal or something.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:36 AM (DJPFk)

162
Given, with the proviso that you report back on the experience. That sounds like an absolute fucking blast.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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Report along the way. Even if it's just a quick one line "I'm Ok" once a day.
Posted by: rickb223

WILCO. I'm bringing the 2m ham radio with me since a good portion of it has no cell service, but I should be able to report 'all safe' in the evenings. Not camping, too much humidity. Plus hotels have showers....

Posted by: BifBewalski - at July 11, 2025 08:37 AM (QcUc+)

163 It'd be a huge scandal for the agency if it came out they shielded an underage sex trafficker,

Everyone is cool with the CIA assassinating US Presidents , cabinet officials and civil rights leaders, blowing up pipelines, staging color revolutions, pumping leaders with misleading intel to get into multi-decade trillion dollar interventions.

But we draw the line on pedophiles - except for the ones running our public schools.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:37 AM (a4flb)

164 Ukraine is the proxy in this proxy war.
We’re kinda tied to them at the hip here.

This was W. & O’s doing, not Trump’s.

For some reason, our geniuses in DC thought it wise to take Georgia & Ukraine apjust to stick it to the Russians and hem them in with no buffer countries in between them and NATO.

The Russians, unsurprisingly, did not go along with the plan.

If it had been me in 2014, I’d have realized we’d reached the redline at that point and made a deal with Putin then, on much more favorable terms which could’ve put all this to bed.

But nope, they just had to keep poking the bear and here we are.

Pull out American all financial & military aid and let the EU take ownership of this thing - and then tell them flat out to proceed with caution because we aren’t coming to the rescue this time if it gets out of hand.

That’s about the only way this thing will end any time soon, because threats and sanctions aren’t scaring the Russkies one iota - they are used to it by now.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 08:37 AM (6ydKt)

165 Pam definitely needs a spanking.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 11, 2025 08:35 AM (ImXfC)

And after the spanking?

Posted by: Naughty Zoot at July 11, 2025 08:37 AM (wVcYX)

166 Good morning, friends! Paxton did have an affair, she isn’t making it up. It was part of his court hearing. I believe my lawyer’s advice was solid when he said “if it feels good, don’t do it” meaning don’t do crazy things, be the sane one, don’t send hateful messages, etc. This tweet may have fallen under this category. That said, Paxton behaved badly and there are consequences for behavior, right?

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 08:38 AM (PRqXW)

167 158. Hayden amazes me. W Bush CIA director who had a massive stroke years back. This is his priority these days?

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:38 AM (YCxFk)

168 We need to keep the Senate for Judges. His wife is very high profile. I despise Cronyn, but he always wins the GE by double digits. What do we think?

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:40 AM (YCxFk)

169 Yeah, Jennifer Love Hewitt is definitely racktacular.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 08:41 AM (77rzZ)

170 145 Jamie Dimon criticizes Zohran Mamdani as 'Marxist,' blasts Democrats' DEI push: 'Big hearts and little brain'

Common and seemingly indestructible misconception: it's not about big hearts.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 08:41 AM (WHfpM)

171 "Would-Be Trump Assassin Ryan Routh Fires Lawyer, Wants to Represent Himself."

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Ted Bundy did the same thing and we see how that turned out.
Posted by: Lady in Black

I know why he did it. He wants to "tell his story" and it has nothing to do with the law and his lawyers have told him "no, that's not how this works". So he fired them so he can tell "his story".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:41 AM (8v2yu)

172 The Navy has more experience in nukes than the rest of the world put together.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:18 AM (gbOdA)

Yeah, but then nuclear trained personnel could have gotten shore duty. Can't have that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:41 AM (ExV1e)

173 @159

>>If he were a customer of Deutsche Bank, why would they be on the hook?

Because Deutsche Bank was funding Epstein's operation.

Epstein would withdraw numerous times from his accounts there just under the 10k reporting threshold, Deutshce Bank knew what he was doing and failed to report it, so the ponied up to make everything go away.

Lex Wesner signed over power of attorney to Epstein for his accounts that totaled over 1B dollars.

Epstein also cultivated numerous clients and contacts in the tech industry.

The tentacles of The Epstein Operation are far and wide and yet..... Case Closed.

Bullsh*t.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 08:41 AM (XV/Pl)

174 Political Defenestration is a useful tool to delete crooked pols, underutilized in our polite society.

Posted by: Mr. Rogers Windows at July 11, 2025 08:42 AM (G5+As)

175 Jamie Dimon supported marxist Obama, along with sh#thead Warren Buffett. F them both

Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:42 AM (YCxFk)

176 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:21 AM (ANuwa)

It's a point I harp on endlessly. Everything in the media, social or otherwise, coming from professional news/opinion sources is designed to manipulate your emotions so that your behavior can be controlled.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:44 AM (ExV1e)

177 @161 a judge can insist that a person who is not a lawyer but insists on representing himself have a assigned counsel at his table to instruct the non lawyer on procedures. It is still usually a cluster**k

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 11, 2025 08:44 AM (JtH6i)

178 That said, Paxton behaved badly and there are consequences for behavior, right?
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 08:38 AM (PRqXW)

Yes, a divorce. But as far as I'm concerned this has nothing to do with his political role and value to us as a fighter.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 08:44 AM (WHfpM)

179 175 Jamie Dimon supported marxist Obama, along with sh#thead Warren Buffett. F them both
Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:42 AM (YCxFk)

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He's like Bill Ackman being really shocked that he's actively ignored the incredibly obvious for years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 08:44 AM (GBKbO)

180 This business with the Epstein files, the lack of action and investigation of the presidential assassination attempts and the J6 pipe bomber is just political jackassery and honestly has me questioning who the HMFIC really is.

Either DTS runs the country or the FBI runs the country.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (3Ope8)

181 Harry Sisson
@harryjsisson

HAHA LET’S GO! The Democrats just launched an account on X/Twitter where they track whether Trump has released the Epstein files or not. This is genius!!!

https://tinyurl.com/2232eurr

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (NpAcC)

182 Good morning good people.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (cYBz/)

183 >>For some reason, our geniuses in DC thought it wise to take Georgia & Ukraine apjust to stick it to the Russians and hem them in with no buffer countries in between them and NATO.

Been saying this for 5 years. But as stupid as our foreign policy elite are, they didn't just pick Georgia and Ukraine out of a hat. In their pea sized brains there was a reason to invite them into NATO.

A bad reason is still a reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (viF8m)

184 "4 billion in victims"

Do the victims still get to be victims after they have been paid $$$ for their victim hood? My opinion is no. Once they cash a check, the book is closed on them.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (89Sog)

185 >Jennifer Love Hewitt has a nice rack.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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it's unfortunate that she never put those (insert your preferred euphemism here) on film for the historical record
time and gravity will have their way.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (AOsQT)

186 180 This business with the Epstein files, the lack of action and investigation of the presidential assassination attempts and the J6 pipe bomber is just political jackassery and honestly has me questioning who the HMFIC really is.

Either DTS runs the country or the FBI runs the country.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (3Ope

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If there are active investigations, is it common practice for DOJ to hold press conferences about them?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 08:46 AM (GBKbO)

187 Rubio is just one guy against a Leviathan of America Hating Globalists who are pissed off about their skulldudgery slush fund being gutted.
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:21 AM (a4flb)

So I guess some Cabinet Secretaries are exempt from the "their org did something I don't like or didn't do something I want fast enough so they should be fired" refrain.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:46 AM (ExV1e)

188 Ok, I have a dumb question. Can the Court -require- a defendant to accept legal counsel? Just wondering if a guy refusing even a free attorney would be grounds for appeal or something.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:36 AM (DJPFk)

Not really. There's a whole rigmarole to go through, basically the court advising that it's a terrible idea to represent oneself and that the defendant will be held to the same standards as a lawyer. The court typically appoints stand-by counsel that the defendant can consult on legal questions. But ai can't recall whether that's required or just customary.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 08:48 AM (y+qgR)

189 This business with the Epstein files, the lack of action and investigation of the presidential assassination attempts and the J6 pipe bomber is just political jackassery and honestly has me questioning who the HMFIC really is.

Either DTS runs the country or the FBI runs the country.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

Trump is definitely NOT THMFIC.

The HMFIC is someone who is willing to kill*.

*see all 43 of Bill & Hillary's friends who have committed "suicide".

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:48 AM (8v2yu)

190 Yes. I'm sick and tired of two Americas where the connected skate no matter what horrible things they do
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:22 AM (t0Rmr)

It the same way everywhere else and has been since the first government came into being. The people with the gold and the power aren't subject to the same rules as the little people.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:48 AM (ExV1e)

191 Just a nice story about a father's love for his son and a girlfriend's kind gesture. And yes, it's about a Harvard graduate...meh:

https://tinyurl.com/3at3yt7y

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 08:49 AM (2GCMq)

192 If there are active investigations, is it common practice for DOJ to hold press conferences about them?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It is common practice to say, "we cannot comment on ongoing investigations" instead of crickets.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:49 AM (8v2yu)

193 It's National 7-Eleven Day.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 08:24 AM (NpAcC)

Oh, thank Heaven!

Posted by: Doof at July 11, 2025 08:49 AM (5jU2p)

194 Epstein’s island is part of the US Virgin Islands.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 08:49 AM (77rzZ)

195 JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon panned New York City mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani as "more a Marxist than a socialist" and criticized Democrats who he says spend too much time on diversity, equity and inclusion initiatives.
Posted by: SMOD

Bold talk Jamie for a CEO that based damn near everything on DEI when I was at JPMorganChase. It was the most important initiative by far. And yet, 'diversity' somehow didn't include promoting and valuing the work experience of older employees with experience.

Funny that.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 08:49 AM (cYBz/)

196 Yes, a divorce. But as far as I'm concerned this has nothing to do with his political role and value to us as a fighter.
Posted by: Ordinary American

I think we would be hard pressed to find a politician who is squeaky clean, honestly. I don’t know that it would make me vote against him either.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 08:50 AM (PRqXW)

197 It the same way everywhere else and has been since the first government came into being. The people with the gold and the power aren't subject to the same rules as the little people.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

*The French Revolution has entered the chat.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:50 AM (8v2yu)

198 "This is despite pro-illegal immigrant riots and potentially deadly attacks on ICE"

Suggested edit....

Because of attacks and riots. We the people are sick of this shit. Enforce the law?.... Let's riot and burn shit! Career criminal dies in custody?... Let's riot and burn shit! It rained on Thursday?... Lets riot and burn shit! Everyone sees how bat shit insane this garbage is and we have had enough. We said that loud and clear in November. FA/FO assholes. Demoncrats should be outlawed.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 11, 2025 08:50 AM (2J/Lj)

199 185 it's unfortunate that she never put those (insert your preferred euphemism here) on film for the historical record

Posted by: Don Black.

This has been an eternal question pondered by the old guys in my poker gang for actresses going back to before Raquel Welch.

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 08:50 AM (j4U/Z)

200 TINSTAAFL
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 11, 2025 08:26 AM (gbOdA)

Was that deliberate?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:50 AM (ExV1e)

201 If there are active investigations, is it common practice for DOJ to hold press conferences about them?

No but it is common to shitcan people who are not following instructions and who are actively working against you.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 08:50 AM (3Ope8)

202 192 If there are active investigations, is it common practice for DOJ to hold press conferences about them?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

It is common practice to say, "we cannot comment on ongoing investigations" instead of crickets.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:49 AM (8v2yu)

=======

The thing is, I know that the DOJ keeps investigations secret until they're ready to bring charges.

That's common practice.

Does it mean that anything is happening in these instances? Not at all. It very well could be nothing.

But, it's obvious how we're operating with massive holes in information. There's not going to be any telling what's happening or not for a while.

I'm just not coming to any conclusions about anything. I'm just waiting for more information.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 08:51 AM (GBKbO)

203 Epstein’s island is part of the US Virgin Islands.
Posted by: Bulg

There's the FBI's hook.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:51 AM (8v2yu)

204 That said, Paxton behaved badly and there are consequences for behavior, right?
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 08:38 AM (PRqXW)

Yes, a divorce. But as far as I'm concerned this has nothing to do with his political role and value to us as a fighter.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 08:44 AM (WHfpM)

I agree. Paxton was/is probably a horrible husband but he’s been an outstanding AG and he’ll make a much better senator than Cornyn. I’ll still vote for him in the primary. As someone upthread said… he’s a mercenary who’s good at fighting….. The Donald has some marital escapades in his past. I’m not voting for a pastor

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (i5Vkf)

205 Blondi and co won't release the list of Epstein clients because the Deep State has demanded that it not be release - likely because it will destroy the faith that people have in their government.

Too late. I'm not one to go "Oh , W is in charge. I love my government. Ooh - Obama. States Rights and don't trust The Feds. Yay - Trump !!! Bless our boys in Federal Blue".

I don't trust them. Have not for decades.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (BUS1K)

206 You can say what you want about the economy and deportations, but I'm guessing that a lot of younger voters who thought Trump would end the foreign wars and expose the Epstein stuff are more than happy to shrug their shoulders during the mid-terms and ask, "Why bother?"

And they're not wrong.

All those podcasting bros that Trump smartly courted are all asking what the hell is going on. They hold sway. This has been a less than good last few weeks.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (j/vBG)

207 Anyone happen to catch Trump's reaction at his cabinet meeting during the Q&A when the Epstein question was asked of Bondi?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (viF8m)

208 Incorrect.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at July 11, 2025 08:28 AM (P7SgQ)

Someone other than Virginia Giuffre?

And this is a case where we should accept the passage of several years between supposed deed and accusation?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:53 AM (ExV1e)

209 An ex girlfriend of mine once visited the Virgin Islands and they treated her like an absolute stranger.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:53 AM (IKyq4)

210 I think the most important takeaway from the Paxton divorce for the Horde is that Angela is available and needs comforting. She looks good for her age.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 08:53 AM (y+qgR)

211 153 TBH, I'd rather we had a government where ministers died when they screwed up enough.

If a few pols and commanding officers in 'Stan had "committed suicide after signs of torture" over that I would have approved.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 11, 2025 08:34 AM (t0Rmr)

In general, the world would be a much better behaved place, and more competent, if there were a whole lot more people getting beaten to death.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 08:53 AM (UnA8+)

212 I don't trust them. Have not for decades.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (BUS1K)

Wow!!; Really?!!. Thanks for that newsworthy note.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 08:54 AM (2GCMq)

213 I think the most important takeaway from the Paxton divorce for the Horde is that Angela is available and needs comforting. She looks good for her age.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Not my type.

Posted by: Zombie Captain Ned at July 11, 2025 08:54 AM (cYBz/)

214 These are two betrayals now by Trump to MAGA
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 08:28 AM (a4flb)

If only we'd voted for Harris.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:54 AM (ExV1e)

215 8 We need to keep the Senate for Judges. His wife is very high profile. I despise Cronyn, but he always wins the GE by double digits. What do we think?
Posted by: Jonah at July 11, 2025 08:40 AM (YCxFk)
******
I'm a fan of Paxton, but I want to keep the Senate.
I definitely don't want Texas to turn blue so I will make my decision as the primary gets closer.

I am worried that the Mamdani Mania could spread and invigorate Gen Z voters to come out in droves.

They are unable to afford houses and see Mamdani and his policies as a way for them to do so.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 08:54 AM (NpAcC)

216 I'm done with the Epstein issue. I trust Trump. I take it on faith that his actions or inactions in this matter relate to the country's best interests and his long-term plan for national betterment. For once I believe we have a leader who puts country first.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 08:55 AM (WHfpM)

217 A bad reason is still a reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (viF8m)

I always believed we should’ve let Russia into NATO. A lot of current day difficulties would not exist if they were a treaty ally with the West.

But our betters just couldn’t accept a country inclined to electing dictatorships, and the old guard at the Pentagon would never accept people thst they’d been trained to think of as our evil forever enemy their entire lives.

I get why it didn’t happen but can’t help but wonder what 2025 would like if we had.

One thing is for sure, this war wouldn’t be happening because if we had let Russia into NATO, Ukraine and the other former Soviet republics probably would’ve come in right along with them.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 08:55 AM (6ydKt)

218 I mentioned yesterday not voting for Paxton because of integrity issues, none of which was related to his adultery (at least not initially). The timing is curious. Cornyn will make hay with this. Paxton may still win the primary.

Regarding politicians as snakes. Mrs. Paxton is a state senator. She won Ken’s state house seat when he won in the senate. Then she won his senate seat when he became AG. She has higher aspirations. Maybe doesn’t need Ken anymore. But she is a politician and a snake.

Posted by: QED Texan at July 11, 2025 08:56 AM (fveCG)

219 Dissolve NATO.

More trouble than it's worth now.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 08:56 AM (IKyq4)

220 A good article on historical flooding of the Guadalupe River.

https://tinyurl.com/4t5szae7

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 11, 2025 08:56 AM (5xuJ/)

221 ‘Signs of torture’ found on body of sacked Putin minister who ‘died 24 hours before’ apparent suicide
Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 08:29 AM (RHGPo)

Russian politician killed by Russians... allegedly.

Why do you care? What difference does it make to anyone here? Are you suggesting that this is reason to send troops to overthrow Putin and bring American-style democracy to the Soviets?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 08:56 AM (ExV1e)

222 > Anyone happen to catch Trump's reaction at his cabinet meeting during the Q&A when the Epstein question was asked of Bondi?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (viF8m)
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Yes.

Trump wasn't thrilled to have it brought up again.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 08:57 AM (Q4IgG)

223 I have to go somewhere. I'll have to miss the Blondi (Blondi!!-Remember "The Good, The Bad and The Uglly) wars for today. Have a good day, everyone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 11, 2025 08:57 AM (2GCMq)

224 Anyone happen to catch Trump's reaction at his cabinet meeting during the Q&A when the Epstein question was asked of Bondi?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (viF8m)
******
Yep. He looked like wtf do y'all still care about this and not all the shit that I and my administration have done to make this country great.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 08:58 AM (NpAcC)

225 New documentary out" Who shot Trump" .

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 08:58 AM (HFcKg)

226 Massachusetts Bill Would Expose ICE Agents Amid Rise In Violent Threats

Because, of course it's MA.

*places brown paper bag over head*

*apologizes to America*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 08:58 AM (kgE5c)

227 Or the Sodomy Flag flying over the White House...

Just like the masthead here says, "Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his mans, hoist the sodomy flag, and begin gagging throats." Or something to that effect...

Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at July 11, 2025 08:58 AM (JCZqz)

228 What’s Pam gonna do with that stick she’s holding?

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 08:59 AM (77rzZ)

229 Rather than Russia as part of NATO what would’ve made a lot more sense in 1992…. Just dissolve NATO. I mean does anyone really believe that in 2025 we should fight on the same side as Erdogan’s Turkey in any conflict?? Insane

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:59 AM (i5Vkf)

230 Sometimes, leaders must choose the least bad option from a collection of bad options.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 08:59 AM (AOsQT)

231 Anyone happen to catch Trump's reaction at his cabinet meeting during the Q&A when the Epstein question was asked of Bondi?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 08:52 AM (viF8m)
******
Yep. He looked like wtf do y'all still care about this and not all the shit that I and my administration have done to make this country great.
Posted by: redridinghood

HMFIC told him to bury it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:59 AM (8v2yu)

232 WILCO. I'm bringing the 2m ham radio with me since a good portion of it has no cell service, but I should be able to report 'all safe' in the evenings. Not camping, too much humidity. Plus hotels have showers....

T-Mobile now has satellite service if you have a somewhat modern mobile phone.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 09:00 AM (a4flb)

233 You too, Fen.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:00 AM (77rzZ)

234
Let's stop drawing distinctions between "Socialism" and "Communism".

The differences have become negligible.

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 09:00 AM (j4U/Z)

235 Good morning again dear horde and happy birthday JJ

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 11, 2025 09:00 AM (RIvkX)

236 4 billion in victims

Okay.

Look, I think the whole thing was terrible. I strongly suspect the various governments, including ours, were knowingly involved. I wish the world were other than it is. Better they spend resources working to prevent a recurrence than get a bunch of people murdered when the rich/powerful start working to cover their tracks.

I'm just not gonna get worked up over it and, I suspect, that a lot of the internet 'rage' on the issue is being manufactured for someone's political gain.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:01 AM (ExV1e)

237 >>Yes.

>>Trump wasn't thrilled to have it brought up again.

Exactly. He didn't lash out at Bondi or even give her a nickname. He lashed out at the reporter for bringing it up.

Epstein was CIA and likely working for other foreign intel organizations doing bad things sanctioned by governments. I'd love to know what he was doing all those years but I'm not surprised they won't tell me.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:01 AM (viF8m)

238 The administration has also ignored the pressing problem of ladies farding in cars!

Posted by: Happy Harry at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (G5+As)

239 Yep. He looked like wtf do y'all still care about this and not all the shit that I and my administration have done to make this country great.

Easy answer. Because if you are allowing an international pedo ring to get covered up ? I don't give a damn about the jobs numbers.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (BUS1K)

240 Lets just use the Butler assassination attempt as a teachable moment. There's a scathing report issued detailing lapses of protocol, deficiencies in training and other basic functions. Arguably the most powerful man in the world was, but for the grace of God, almost taken down by a kid with a pawn store rifle from less than 300 yards.

Yet all we can do is put some folks on unpaid leave and make recommendations that will ostensibly mitigate a future attempt. Seems like the President could light some folks up, demand answers and accountability in very short order or some folks could end up on the street. And by some folks, I mean entire departments.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (3Ope8)

241
Bondi's own goal episode with the release of binders with nothing new regarding Epstein to influencers in full throated triumphal publicity ought to have ended her right then and there.

When does a wounded creature get put down here?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (Tv15w)

242 Epstein was probably running honey-traps for Mossad and CIA.

If that’s the case, it’s no wonder everyone wants to change the subject as quickly as possible once they’ve read the files.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (6ydKt)

243 Many thing I don't like about the case being dropped. The whole thing stills stinks but maybe there is no smoking gun. But beyond the supposed lists, videos, clients etc... the thing I cant get over is his reported manner of death. He hanged himself with a sheet from some bed frame not big enough to keep his feet off the floor. No f**ing way. Just not possible.

Posted by: Ripley at July 11, 2025 09:03 AM (GUOwU)

244 Epstein’s island is part of the US Virgin Islands.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 08:49 AM

Well...if that isn't that Alanis Morissette-level irony...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 09:03 AM (kgE5c)

245 239 Yep. He looked like wtf do y'all still care about this and not all the shit that I and my administration have done to make this country great.

Easy answer. Because if you are allowing an international pedo ring to get covered up ? I don't give a damn about the jobs numbers.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (BUS1K)

He's better than the alternative, but at the same point, shut it about draining swamps and interrupting business as usual.

The deep state remains undefeated.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 09:03 AM (j/vBG)

246 >Let's stop drawing distinctions between "Socialism" and "Communism".

The differences have become negligible.

Posted by: Auspex
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spelling, mostly

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 09:03 AM (AOsQT)

247 Yep. He looked like wtf do y'all still care about this and not all the shit that I and my administration have done to make this country great.

Easy answer. Because if you are allowing an international pedo ring to get covered up ? I don't give a damn about the jobs numbers.
Posted by: Doug Roberts

EXACTLY. Especially if some of the pedos are members of my government.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:04 AM (8v2yu)

248 236 Okay.

Look, I think the whole thing was terrible. I strongly suspect the various governments, including ours, were knowingly involved. I wish the world were other than it is. Better they spend resources working to prevent a recurrence than get a bunch of people murdered when the rich/powerful start working to cover their tracks.

I'm just not gonna get worked up over it and, I suspect, that a lot of the internet 'rage' on the issue is being manufactured for someone's political gain.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:01 AM (ExV1e)

You can't say that you never dreamed of getting to see Slick Willie strapped into Ol' Sparky.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 09:04 AM (UnA8+)

249 I wonder if the soft approach to the Secret Service is because POTUS doesn't want to greatly piss off The Praetorian Guard lest another "operational failure" happen and he gets killed.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:04 AM (IKyq4)

250 That said, Paxton behaved badly and there are consequences for behavior, right?
Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 08:38 AM (PRqXW)

Sometimes the only consequences are eternal, not temporal. As we mentioned yesterday, Paxton has the personal morality of an alley cat, but he always benefits from running against people who are far worse than he is. John Cornyn is unpopular because he’s completely forgotten where he came from from the moment he went to DC and has spent all his time there shitting on his own voters.

And as to the Democrats - did you see that the name most popular with Texas Dems right now is Jasmine Crockett? The one who is saying that the left “Never commits violence!”, only the right? While she calls for violence?
Paxton is wicked on a personal level, Cornyn is evil on an institutional level, Jasmine is evil on a satanic level.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:04 AM (BDNZf)

251 News From The Jews …

So this rah-rah Israel guy thinks Israel will have a great future with … India? Good luck with that.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (w8vOS)

252 Blondie in The Good, The Bad and the Ugly…. Nice reference Fen. Love the Eastwood spaghetti westerns

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (i5Vkf)

253 Stupid question: ICE are federal agents -- how is it states are able to make laws about anything related to them, particularly doxxing them???

Oh, and good morning, all!

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (GbwPZ)

254 > Epstein was CIA and likely working for other foreign intel organizations doing bad things sanctioned by governments. I'd love to know what he was doing all those years but I'm not surprised they won't tell me.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:01 AM (viF8m)
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He was also using the allure of sex to get clients for his investment biz. Then blackmailing them to give him money for said investment firm. An investment firm that was likely, as you say, a CIA front for funneling money "elsewhere" for "stuff."

No wonder nobody wants to discuss it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (Q4IgG)

255 >>The deep state remains undefeated.

Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. USAID is gone. And both the former CIA Director and FBI Director are under criminal investigation.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (viF8m)

256 And after the spanking?
Posted by: Naughty Zoot at July 11, 2025 08:37 AM (wVcYX)

Ackshully, that conversation was had with Zoot's identical twin sister, Dingo.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (ExV1e)

257
What’s Pam gonna do with that stick she’s holding?
Posted by: Bulg

Whack that disgusting Epstein's pee-pee

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (Tv15w)

258 251 News From The Jews …

So this rah-rah Israel guy thinks Israel will have a great future with … India? Good luck with that.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (w8vOS)

Yes, but an interesting essay nonetheless with some good points.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (WHfpM)

259 DOGE never got as far as looking into the sexual harassment slush fund for Congress .

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (HFcKg)

260 One can hang oneself from a doorknob with a t-shirt if motivated enough.

Posted by: Not That Hard at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (G5+As)

261 So this rah-rah Israel guy thinks Israel will have a great future with … India? Good luck with that.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM

Has this person looked at India lately?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (kgE5c)

262 255 Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. USAID is gone. And both the former CIA Director and FBI Director are under criminal investigation.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (viF8m)

But the Clintons are still free, and that's what really burns.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (UnA8+)

263 255 >>The deep state remains undefeated.

Epstein is dead. Maxwell is in prison. USAID is gone. And both the former CIA Director and FBI Director are under criminal investigation.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:05 AM (viF8m)

Why is Maxwell in prison? What person of consequence is in jail? Epstein is dead? Great.

And see J.J.'s first link. Under investigation doesn't really matter when the viper's nest remains fully stocked.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (j/vBG)

264 That said, Paxton behaved badly and there are consequences for behavior, right?

He's getting divorced. Presumably his wife will end up with an extra bit of the family stuff. Should Texas re-elect Cornyn because Paxton got frisky with someone else?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (ExV1e)

265 Rather than Russia as part of NATO what would’ve made a lot more sense in 1992…. Just dissolve NATO. I mean does anyone really believe that in 2025 we should fight on the same side as Erdogan’s Turkey in any conflict?? Insane
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 11, 2025 08:59 AM (i5Vkf)

Too much money sloshing around NATO and related MIC to kick that habit.

It’s like all of the post-WWII institutions that were created and sustained through the Cold War - they’ll keep them running until the wheels fall off.

And they are starting to show their advanced age at this point.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (6ydKt)

266 Yet all we can do is put some folks on unpaid leave and make recommendations that will ostensibly mitigate a future attempt. Seems like the President could light some folks up, demand answers and accountability in very short order or some folks could end up on the street. And by some folks, I mean entire departments.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead

And THAT IS WHY people are pissed.
Because after all the bluster about draining the swamp, it's business as usual.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (8v2yu)

267 259 DOGE never got as far as looking into the sexual harassment slush fund for Congress .
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (HFcKg)

=======

1. DOGE is still around.
2. DOGE is an executive agency looking into executive spending. The slush fund is Congressional.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 09:08 AM (GBKbO)

268 "Im done with the Epstein issue. I trust Trump. I take it on faith that his actions or inactions in this matter relate to the country's best interests and his long-term plan for national betterment. For once I believe we have a leader who puts country first."

I want it burn to the ground. Why let a bunch of pedophiles skate? For world peace? No more secrets.
I'm hoping with Comey and Brennan, they already have a solid case.

Posted by: TC at July 11, 2025 09:08 AM (cHOHf)

269 @145 absolutely. They think they can force cultural change from the top down. I think it happens organically, from the bottom up. Civilization flourishes when the people are free, protected, capable and cooperative. We’re losing a lot of those four qualities, hence, decay, and the left’s attempts at forcing it to happen some other way. They’re kids who never grew up.

Posted by: H at July 11, 2025 09:08 AM (2gjbv)

270 240 Lets just use the Butler assassination attempt as a teachable moment. There's a scathing report issued detailing lapses of protocol, deficiencies in training and other basic functions. Arguably the most powerful man in the world was, but for the grace of God, almost taken down by a kid with a pawn store rifle from less than 300 yards.

Yet all we can do is put some folks on unpaid leave and make recommendations that will ostensibly mitigate a future attempt. Seems like the President could light some folks up, demand answers and accountability in very short order or some folks could end up on the street. And by some folks, I mean entire departments.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (3Ope

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YES. Well said and thank you. It's all ridiculous.

Posted by: Seems Legit at July 11, 2025 09:08 AM (PMtkd)

271 I would think that if Trump was on the Epstein list or any Republicans for that matter, the Democrats would've made sure the so-called list was somehow leaked to the New York Times during the Biden administration.

Look at all the obstacles they threw at Trump to take him down.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 09:08 AM (NpAcC)

272 259 DOGE never got as far as looking into the sexual harassment slush fund for Congress .

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (HFcKg)

Yet another third-rail that the American public simply cannot comprehend.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 09:08 AM (j/vBG)

273 266 And THAT IS WHY people are pissed.
Because after all the bluster about draining the swamp, it's business as usual.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (8v2yu)

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Department of State is firing 1200 people today.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 09:08 AM (GBKbO)

274 One can hang oneself from a doorknob with a t-shirt if motivated enough.
Posted by: Not That Hard

It's easier still if you have help.
-- Zombie D'Angelo Barksdale

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 09:09 AM (cYBz/)

275 Nobody cared to continue the discussion of Jennifer Love Hewitt’s rack. Sad.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:09 AM (77rzZ)

276 247 Yep. He looked like wtf do y'all still care about this and not all the shit that I and my administration have done to make this country great.

Easy answer. Because if you are allowing an international pedo ring to get covered up ? I don't give a damn about the jobs numbers.
Posted by: Doug Roberts

EXACTLY. Especially if some of the pedos are members of my government.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:04 AM (8v2yu)

It's worse than this. A cabal of unelected ICers are running the country, in part through a honeypot op involving underage girls. If you wonder why public policy on important issues bears no correspondence to public polling, wonder no more. The Epstein affair is the deep state illustrated. No swamps are getting drained so long as the IC is allowed to function this way.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 09:09 AM (y+qgR)

277 But the Clintons are still free, and that's what really burns.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 09:07 AM (UnA8+)

Psalm 73 - Why do the wicked prosper?

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at July 11, 2025 09:10 AM (SfhV1)

278 Nobody cared to continue the discussion of Jennifer Love Hewitt’s rack. Sad.
Posted by: Bulg

That convo was a bust.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 11, 2025 09:10 AM (cYBz/)

279 This business with the Epstein files, the lack of action and investigation of the presidential assassination attempts and the J6 pipe bomber is just political jackassery and honestly has me questioning who the HMFIC really is.

Civilian government service isn't like the Marines. You don't go to jail for disobeying orders.

Further, you don't actually know the status of any of the investigations. You only know the screeching of people who also don't actually know the status of any of the investigations.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:10 AM (ExV1e)

280 If you want to borrow a match and some accelerant, I have it available in my online shop.

If you need a fainting couch, I have those available also but there is a wait. Right now about a month.

Free shipping for purchases over a hundred dollars!

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 09:11 AM (89Sog)

281 264 That said, Paxton behaved badly and there are consequences for behavior, right?

He's getting divorced. Presumably his wife will end up with an extra bit of the family stuff. Should Texas re-elect Cornyn because Paxton got frisky with someone else?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I never said that. But it’s crap behavior, I am not going to minimize it, either.

Posted by: Piper at July 11, 2025 09:11 AM (jAPoh)

282 So I guess some Cabinet Secretaries are exempt from the "their org did something I don't like or didn't do something I want fast enough so they should be fired" refrain.

Isn't Rubio running a bunch of other departments and agencies too?

So can you micromanage 80,214 people in 174 countries and 272 bilateral posts, 11 permanent missions and seven other posts - especially when most of your staffers cry and call their lawyers when someone sends them an email asking what five things they did the previous week?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 09:11 AM (a4flb)

283 242 Epstein was probably running honey-traps for Mossad and CIA.

If that’s the case, it’s no wonder everyone wants to change the subject as quickly as possible once they’ve read the files.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:02 AM (6ydKt)

Given the number of British officials whose names keep coming up, there’s no doubt that British Intelligence was involved as well. Probably all 5 Eyes were involved in it, and Epstein was just the front man for what they were doing.
I think it’s likely that truly exposing what went on would collapse US intelligence gathering worldwide, as well as collapse several friendly governments. And that would be why everyone who finds out what really went on just shuts up and walks away.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (BDNZf)

284 Re: All the recent news and reactions to Iran bombing/Epstein/arms to Ukraine/potential Amnesty -- starting to feel like when you're in the hospital with a loved one dealing with a major issue: if you get emotionally invested in any one status, one reading, one bad episode -- or really, emotionally invested in each of these -- you will go crazy. It's an emotional rollercoaster you should never ride. You have to recognize that it is a journey, accept each thing along the way without getting emotionally invested, stay focused on the end goal.

I am applying this to the news, because this "panican" stuff is now ridiculous.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (GbwPZ)

285 Why is Maxwell in prison?

Seriously. Are people telling me she was recruiting them all just for Epstein to screw ?

At this rate, might as well print the "Free Maxwell" tee shirts.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (BUS1K)

286 Hey, TJM, did you see my post yesterday about (the original) Dolley Madison?

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (77rzZ)

287 Do the victims still get to be victims after they have been paid $$$ for their victim hood? My opinion is no. Once they cash a check, the book is closed on them.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 08:45 AM (89Sog)

I'm a bit more open on this. The victims could be weighing money vs possible justice with a side of potentially being murdered.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (ExV1e)

288 Paxton is wicked on a personal level, Cornyn is evil on an institutional level, Jasmine is evil on a satanic level.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:04 AM (BDNZf)

Good observation.

Posted by: QED Texan at July 11, 2025 09:13 AM (fveCG)

289 286 Hey, TJM, did you see my post yesterday about (the original) Dolley Madison?
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (77rzZ)

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Nope. Missed it.

What did she do?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 09:13 AM (GBKbO)

290 I have to go somewhere. I'll have to miss the Blondi (Blondi!!-Remember "The Good, The Bad and The Uglly) wars for today. Have a good day, everyone.

I'm looking for the owner of that horse. He's tall, blonde, he smokes a cigar, and he's a pig!

Posted by: Tuco at July 11, 2025 09:13 AM (lX1hk)

291 Bondi needs to go. She repeatedly lied about the nature of the Epstein evidence. There is no excuse.

Posted by: TC at July 11, 2025 09:13 AM (cHOHf)

292 If Musk starts a No More Secrets party, I'm on board.

It would get sabotaged faster than a Tesla 0-60 though.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 09:14 AM (Dv3i1)

293 Prison might be the safest place for Maxwell.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 09:14 AM (veKWw)

294 >Nobody cared to continue the discussion of Jennifer Love Hewitt’s rack. Sad.
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well, I don't want people thinking I have an unhealthy preoccupation with admiring bosoms

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 09:15 AM (AOsQT)

295 >>Epstein was probably running honey-traps for Mossad and CIA.

Ehud Barack was pals with Epstein: https://tinyurl.com/sdczbt5v

How many other world leaders, one wonders. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:15 AM (GbwPZ)

296 *The French Revolution has entered the chat.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 08:50 AM (8v2yu)

And what did it get them? A few years of terror, a new emperor, and a series of "republics" which don't last very long and don't do much for the common Frenchman.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:15 AM (ExV1e)

297 Given the number of British officials whose names keep coming up, there’s no doubt that British Intelligence was involved as well. Probably all 5 Eyes were involved in it, and Epstein was just the front man for what they were doing.
I think it’s likely that truly exposing what went on would collapse US intelligence gathering worldwide, as well as collapse several friendly governments. And that would be why everyone who finds out what really went on just shuts up and walks away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (BDNZf)

front man for the 5 eyes bordello...

Posted by: runner at July 11, 2025 09:15 AM (g47mK)

298 289 Her favorite ice-cream flavor was oyster. Oyster ice cream.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:16 AM (77rzZ)

299
Epstein was CIA and likely working for other foreign intel organizations doing bad things sanctioned by governments. I'd love to know what he was doing all those years but I'm not surprised they won't tell me.
Posted by: JackStraw

Look, we were paying out money to develop bioweapons with the cooperation of foreign governments -- actual enemies in the CCP's case. That is known, and they did not like that that became known. Tough shit, now you stand revealed as both stupid and evil and there's no hiding that.

Clean out the augean stables and do it now. Whatever strictures are stopping this are repellant and heads should roll. Lord knows that any one of our heads would if the powers that be had us dead to rights in activities even remotely similar to what ol' pal Jeffrey was doing.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:16 AM (Tv15w)

300 293 Prison might be the safest place for Maxwell.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at July 11, 2025 09:14 AM (veKWw)

It is pretty safe there.

Posted by: zombie jeffrey epstein at July 11, 2025 09:16 AM (y+qgR)

301 298 289 Her favorite ice-cream flavor was oyster. Oyster ice cream.
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:16 AM (77rzZ)

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Life before refrigeration...

Neat factoid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 09:16 AM (GBKbO)

302 Department of State is firing 1200 people today.

What do you call a bus with 1200 Department of State staffers going over a cliff?

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 09:16 AM (a4flb)

303 @283

>>I think it’s likely that truly exposing what went on would collapse US intelligence gathering worldwide

The operation is oriented around maintaining control of Western and Anglosphere countries and their populations, it's not an operation to control or mitigate the power of "enemies."

That's why exposing and ending this is crucial.

And that's why it's being kept hidden.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 09:17 AM (XV/Pl)

304 >>Why is Maxwell in prison?

I've seen this question asked many times. Did some of you even watch her trial?

She's in prison for trafficking underage girls to Epstein. Not anyone else, Epstein. On top of everything else he did he was a world class pervert. That's likely why he was so useful to intel agencies.

Did they also traffic those girls to others? Of course. We are currently dealing with the consequences of an entire previous government that fostered sex trafficking for years right out in the open and almost nobody said dick.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:17 AM (viF8m)

305 I don’t there’s anything unhealthy about admiring bosoms.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:18 AM (77rzZ)

306 279 This business with the Epstein files, the lack of action and investigation of the presidential assassination attempts and the J6 pipe bomber is just political jackassery and honestly has me questioning who the HMFIC really is.

ZOD gave you the opportunity for a real alternative, and now he's gone.

Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 09:18 AM (j4U/Z)

307 Oyster Ice Cream?

Sounds like being horny and frigid at the same time.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:18 AM (YnIVK)

308 I think a better use of our military forces would be to degrade and destroy Antifa and those who are funding them here at home.
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Sure. But you know as well as I do that isn't happening and literally NEVER would. The hottest chick on earth might want to boink you, too. Similar chances.

Epstein ? Gotta say, in reality, I don't care anywhere near as much as the internet does. Should people suffer the consequences for breaking the law, especially if it involved sex with underaged girls ? Absolutely. Is there evidence that could be used to convince a jury ? Doubtful.

And I gotta agree with #283 above that its possible that enough people were involved that the most powerful government in the world couldn't withstand it all coming out.

Posted by: deadrody at July 11, 2025 09:18 AM (vgB0v)

309 If Musk starts a No More Secrets party, I'm on board.

It would get sabotaged faster than a Tesla 0-60 though.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 09:14 AM (Dv3i1)
*****
Musk himself has secrets.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 09:19 AM (NpAcC)

310 I think it’s likely that truly exposing what went on would collapse US intelligence gathering worldwide, as well as collapse several friendly governments. And that would be why everyone who finds out what really went on just shuts up and walks away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (BDNZf)

My inner pyromaniac wants to say: Go for it. Light her up and let’s see what survives out of the ashes.

My inner cynic yawns, makes some popcorn, and waits for the next bombshell to drop.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 11, 2025 09:19 AM (6ydKt)

311 > Department of State is firing 1200 people today.
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As I understand it, they're also mostly *biden era holdovers. Maybe part of a earlier TRO about the administration (Trump) being able to fire FedGov employees?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 09:19 AM (Q4IgG)

312
Given the number of British officials whose names keep coming up, there’s no doubt that British Intelligence was involved as well. Probably all 5 Eyes were involved in it, and Epstein was just the front man for what they were doing.

Britain is Islamist now. We owe them nothing, as they dawdled their way into becoming that. Out the Brits.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:19 AM (Tv15w)

313 Lord knows that any one of our heads would if the powers that be had us dead to rights in activities even remotely similar to what ol' pal Jeffrey was doing.

Tucker Carlson admitted that he didn't own a computer because he didn't want the IC placing kiddie pr0n on it.

Jeffrey can run a industrial scale espionage and under-age honey pot operation, but an inconvenient guy can be destroyed by the IC placing pr0n on his computer and then being run through the mill.

Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 09:19 AM (a4flb)

314 They could just release certain names at first. Get rid of a few world politicians that need to go. Prepare the others for the shit storm headed their way. Better than PPV.

Posted by: TC at July 11, 2025 09:19 AM (cHOHf)

315 I'm a bit more open on this. The victims could be weighing money vs possible justice with a side of potentially being murdered.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:12 AM (ExV1e)

Lawsuit with a nda or insurance payout. Once that is done, it's done. When you accept the payout, there is no going back for more. Do it correctly the first time.
If you don't want your name in the paper, I would advise not to claim victimhood at all.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at July 11, 2025 09:19 AM (89Sog)

316 One of the predicates of being a Moron IS an unhealthy admiration of bosoms.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:20 AM (/lEKk)

317 A Significant Geopolitical Problem for President Trump and Us
July 10, 2025 | Sundance
https://shorturl.at/18pbI
Conservative Treehouse

"...in the growing awareness of the American electorate, the President of the United States does not control the Intelligence Community."

Regardless of your opinion of the source - is this statement incorrect?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 09:20 AM (ULPxl)

318 >>Yet all we can do is put some folks on unpaid leave and make recommendations that will ostensibly mitigate a future attempt.

Heard yesterday on Newsmax that the supervisors who f'd up in Butler got *promotions*. Only the lowly staffers get punished.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:20 AM (GbwPZ)

319 Who the HMFIC really is?

It's whoever runs the Union for IC operatives.

Posted by: XTC at July 11, 2025 09:20 AM (UnA8+)

320 And I belatedly noticed Bulg is around.

Good seeing you man.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:21 AM (/lEKk)

321 >>> 316 One of the predicates of being a Moron IS an unhealthy admiration of bosoms.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:20 AM (/lEKk)

???

Next you'll be telling us it's possible to have an unhealthy admiration of bacon!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 09:21 AM (ULPxl)

322 She's in prison for trafficking underage girls to Epstein. Not anyone else, Epstein.

For what purpose ? Because unless Epstein screwed them all ? Then others are involved. It can't be "trafficking girls" without girls getting screwed. Its not prostitution with johns.

You - and others - continually ignore this point.

Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 09:21 AM (BUS1K)

323 316 LOL. Hey, WD, what’s up?

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)

324
"...in the growing awareness of the American electorate, the President of the United States does not control the Intelligence Community."

Regardless of your opinion of the source - is this statement incorrect?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 09:20 AM (ULPxl)

Morn' all.... I believe it is....

Posted by: Kamala at July 11, 2025 09:22 AM (VE6XX)

325 I always believed we should’ve let Russia into NATO.

Since 1992 I've believe that NATO could allow Russia to join or not but that the US shouldn't be part of it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:22 AM (ExV1e)

326 ... by the count of HFMIC refs, the Horde knows ...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 09:23 AM (ULPxl)

327 Well, I like bosoms as much as the next guy.

That's it. That's the comment.

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 09:23 AM (AOsQT)

328 >>Next you'll be telling us it's possible to have an unhealthy admiration of bacon!!!

Is that a euphamism?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:23 AM (viF8m)

329 Good seeing you too, WD.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:23 AM (77rzZ)

330 Hey, WD, what’s up?
Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:22 AM (77rzZ)

Living the dream. How's the fam?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:23 AM (jH5TK)

331 I'm thinking Epstein is still alive and the info he has that isn't under the control of the bastards who ran him is what is keeping him alivr.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 11, 2025 09:23 AM (Dv3i1)

332 321 >>> 316 One of the predicates of being a Moron IS an unhealthy admiration of bosoms.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:20 AM (/lEKk)

???

Next you'll be telling us it's possible to have an unhealthy admiration of bacon!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 11, 2025 09:21 AM (ULPxl)
******
Or 6 pack abs.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 11, 2025 09:24 AM (NpAcC)

333 This would be like the government giving Red Lobster money to feed people who don’t work and insisting it’s not welfare. Don’t be silly! There’s no welfare there. It’s shellfish coverage!

***********

Medicaid benefits do not cover crabs...

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:24 AM (poXs5)

334
Department of State is firing 1200 people today.

That bribgs to mibd the scene in "The Last Emperor" where the eunuchs were expelled from the imperial city and they left, wailing and carrying their rice bowls and their dried testicles.

Lotsa "two state solution" adherents get shown the door today, I hope.

Your grift's played out, suckers.
You go home now.
You been here four decades.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 11, 2025 09:24 AM (Tv15w)

335 Probably a topic for later, but a California pot growing operation was raided by ICE yesterday. Numerous unaccompanied minor alien children were discovered there... as well as a raft of illegals.

Newsom decried the raid. But has yet to answer the question about the children; why were children on a pot growing farm?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 09:24 AM (Q4IgG)

336 Maxwell was also trafficking girls to Randy Andy, no? It wasn’t just Epstein.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:25 AM (77rzZ)

337 Argh, boss is calling. Later

Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 11, 2025 09:25 AM (jH5TK)

338 322 She's in prison for trafficking underage girls to Epstein. Not anyone else, Epstein.

For what purpose ? Because unless Epstein screwed them all ? Then others are involved. It can't be "trafficking girls" without girls getting screwed. Its not prostitution with johns.

You - and others - continually ignore this point.
Posted by: Doug Roberts at July 11, 2025 09:21 AM (BUS1K)

There's so many trafficking rings that we could go after. Epstein gained a lot of notoriety for a guy who was supposedly only trafficking girls to himself.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 11, 2025 09:25 AM (j/vBG)

339 335 Probably a topic for later, but a California pot growing operation was raided by ICE yesterday. Numerous unaccompanied minor alien children were discovered there... as well as a raft of illegals.

Newsom decried the raid. But has yet to answer the question about the children; why were children on a pot growing farm?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 11, 2025 09:24 AM (Q4IgG)

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Other local farms are gonna need to advertise job openings real fast, with increased wages, I suspect.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 11, 2025 09:25 AM (GBKbO)

340 Let's stop drawing distinctions between "Socialism" and "Communism".

The differences have become negligible.
Posted by: Auspex at July 11, 2025 09:00 AM (j4U/Z)

Given that true communism has never been tried - although I believe the USSR got closer than most... an accurate statement... your point is correct. All "communist" countries are just socialist dictatorships.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:25 AM (ExV1e)

341 >>For what purpose ? Because unless Epstein screwed them all ?

All 5 of the girls Maxwell was convicted of trafficking?

Yes.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 11, 2025 09:27 AM (viF8m)

342 And what did it get them? A few years of terror, a new emperor, and a series of "republics" which don't last very long and don't do much for the common Frenchman.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

The "untouchable" powers that be lost their lives.

Kinda important.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 11, 2025 09:27 AM (8v2yu)

343 330 They’re good, WD, thanks for asking.

Let’s meet up sometime. Shoot me an e-mail.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:27 AM (77rzZ)

344 Oyster Flavored Ice Cream? Never seen that at the Kroger.

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:28 AM (bvNHo)

345 @322

>>For what purpose ? Because unless Epstein screwed them all ? Then others are involved. It can't be "trafficking girls" without girls getting screwed. Its not prostitution with johns.

The judge intentionally curtailed the scope of the trial to Epstein and not his overall enterprise or clients.

It was a total setup.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 11, 2025 09:28 AM (XV/Pl)

346 >>But the Clintons are still free, and that's what really burns.

They will burn, too. Just later. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:28 AM (GbwPZ)

347 DOGE never got as far as looking into the sexual harassment slush fund for Congress .
Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 09:06 AM (HFcKg)

That's entirely within Congress. DOGE would never have gotten access to it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (ExV1e)

348 Is Randy Andy that Prince who fell out of favor?

Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (bvNHo)

349 What do you call a bus with 1200 Department of State staffers going over a cliff?
Posted by: Unknown Drip Under Pressure at July 11, 2025 09:16 AM (a4flb)

An erection!

Posted by: The Penis at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (lX1hk)

350 >>The judge intentionally curtailed the scope of the trial to Epstein and not his overall enterprise or clients.

Kinda assumed Ghislane's prosecution was to shut her up. She'll have a much harder time leaking names or blackmailing from jail.

Posted by: Lizzy at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (GbwPZ)

351 344 Oyster Flavored Ice Cream? Never seen that at the Kroger.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:28 AM (bvNHo)

I'm willing to bet it's good.

Several years ago, there was a rash of oyster stouts and porters, and they were delicious.

Haven't been able to find those since.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (y+qgR)

352 Nood art.

Posted by: Nazdar at July 11, 2025 09:30 AM (NcvvS)

353 348 Yes. Prince Andrew, King Tampon’s little brother.

Posted by: Bulg at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (77rzZ)

354 344 Oyster Flavored Ice Cream? Never seen that at the Kroger.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 11, 2025 09:28 AM (bvNHo)

Eskimo Fur Pies. Nanook nookie?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (x0n13)

355 Is Randy Andy that Prince who fell out of favor?

***********

The Prince formally known as oddest...

Posted by: muldoon at July 11, 2025 09:31 AM (poXs5)

356 Thanks for the correction about DOGE guys.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 11, 2025 09:32 AM (HFcKg)

357 >Oyster Flavored Ice Cream? Never seen that at the Kroger.
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Look for it in the "Beyond Disgusting" aisle

Posted by: Don Black. Message: that will never happen at July 11, 2025 09:33 AM (AOsQT)

358 I don't give a flying fuck if Epstein killed himself or not. I want the fucking list of perverts to be front and center on a website or blog. The names need to be released. Prince Andrew got his head chopped off so why have there not been any other names released. Pr. Andrew wasn't the only one boffing young girls. Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: Joyce at July 11, 2025 09:36 AM (Uy/WF)

359 You know what else tastes like Oyster Ice Cream?

Posted by: Van Gina at July 11, 2025 09:36 AM (cHOHf)

360 NASA’s DART asteroid redirection mission may have inadvertently made future asteroid deflections much more challenging after its test sent boulders hurtling through space on unexpected trajectories. In September 2022, the DART mission successfully altered the orbit of asteroid moon Dimorphos. Unfortunately, the smaller space rocks that were dislodged when the kinetic impactor struck the natural satellite achieved three times the momentum of the spacecraft that created them. The University of Maryland-led team (UMD) behind the new research paper on DART’s repercussions cautions that results demonstrate planetary defense may be considerably more complex than previously suspected.

Posted by: SMOD at July 11, 2025 09:42 AM (RHGPo)

361 Good morning, all, and thanks, J.J.

So much to ponder, none of it likeable, but then the weekend is almost here.

James Whitey Bulger v. Jeffrey Epstein could take up much of the time.

Prince Andrew was able attend his brother King Charles III's coronation ceremony on May 6, 2023, wearing his Order of the Garter robes, and it has just been reported the FBI has dropped its investigation into the prince's links with Jeffrey. (See NY Post, Entertainment, Prince Andrew free to travel abroad as FBI ends probe into royal’s Jeffrey Epstein links, By Nika Shakhnazarova, Published July 10, 2025)

Then there's, "President Trump's near 180 degree pivot on Ukraine is disappointing if not outright alarming in its potential implications." v. 27 ex-EU ambassadors: 'Suspend the Israel trade agreement' Jul 11, 2025, Euobserver. (How many ex-USAIDers are involved? Seems like they'd all be besties in the past.)

Also the gazillion tariff proposals, resultant whiplash, and related EU articles, i.e., DW News (A German Public Broadcast Service), 'Does the European Union need to call Trump's bluff?'

(Who the hell are friends of the US? They can probably be counted on a hand.)

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Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 10:29 AM (NFX2v)

362 And also from above: "According to the criminal complaint filed by the Department of Justice, pamphlets on insurrectionary anarchism and propaganda materials, including a “Resist Fascism” flag, were recovered by law enforcement."

What about 'Resist Fascism Flag(s)'?! I'm shocked to learn that manufacturing such flags, t-shirts, visor hats, etc. is, and has been, quite the American business! They're available through Etsy, Ebay, Amazon, many mainstream printing and flag shops, and more, and come in a variety of types, colors, expanded slogans & symbols, and so on!

(No, that's neither an Ad nor an endorsement on my part for yet another DeepState Op. All, imho, of course.)
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Good weekend! 🤗
Prayers for ALL in need. 🙏🕯

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 10:29 AM (NFX2v)

363 Srebrenica falls to Bosnian Serb Army, July 11, 1995

The history of Yugoslavia and the UN's & Nato's involvement are difficult to study (for me) but continue to be relevant.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 11, 2025 10:55 AM (NFX2v)

364 Prince Andrew got his head chopped off…

Figuratively speaking, of course…

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 11:46 AM (WK0PT)

365 How big were the chunks blown off Dimorphos? Small objects, like a lot of the space debris in orbit around Earth is not so much a problem when it deorbits into the atmosphere: it burns up before it hits the surface. Sounds like a better approach would be to attach a continuous low thrust ionic rocket engine, and slowly push the offending asteroid to a better (not Earth incident) orbit.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 11, 2025 11:54 AM (WK0PT)

366 I don't care that the freakin FBI dropped it's investigation in Pr. Andrew. At this point that means squat. The damage was done. He was called out and has had to deal with the fallout from his country and family. Sooo, like I said, where are all the other men who were fucking these young girls on Epstein's island and mansions?! Why did the girls that were part of the investigation not shown pictures of very prominent men and politicians and asked, did you have or made to have sex with any of these men. Why, because money buys you anonymity and freedom.

Posted by: Joyce at July 11, 2025 12:14 PM (Uy/WF)

367 Note to China:

There was a short railroad across the Isthmus of Panama before the Americans built the canal.

You're proposal lacks commercial viability so you probably have ulterior motives.

Posted by: Whitehall at July 11, 2025 08:20 PM (C3IJr)

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