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THE MORNING RANT: The Big Beautiful Bill Has Just Kneecapped Green Energy and the “EV Transition”
This is a joyous moment for conservatives and all of us who have been battling the climate hoax. With President Trump signing the One Big Beautiful Bill into law, government subsidization of electric vehicles and “green energy” has effectively been shut down.
I will have much more to write about this, and I also know that a lot of people had reservations about the OBBB because it did not suddenly fix decades of government deficit spending. But what it did do is actually eliminate some of the most egregious government spending that was in service to attacks on America’s energy independence and transportation freedom. Unlike traditional omnibus bills where Republican congressmen get funding for roads or infrastructure in exchange for Democrats getting an expansion of the welfare state, this law is slashing all sorts of left-wing programs, including the funding of Medicaid for the able-bodied who won’t work, and for Planned Parenthood. Perhaps most significant to me is that the OBBB has killed off the “EV transition” effective almost immediately. In addition, green energy boondoggles will have to come up with a business plan that doesn’t involve taxpayer subsidization. We are also likely near the end of the environmental nightmare of wind energy, and industrial-scale solar. Specifically: • Wind and Solar Energy Projects: Tax credits are eliminated, with the exception that projects started within the next 11 months, or those completed by the end of 2027, are grandfathered in.• Residential Solar: The 30% tax credit goes away at the end of this year.
• Electric Vehicles: The $7,500 per unit federal tax credit for the purchase of new EVs is eliminated effective 9/30/2025 – less than three months! The $4,000 federal incentive for buying a used EV is also killed off.
• EV Chargers: The tax credit for installing an EV charger at home is also killed off effective 6/30/2026, less than a year from now. There is nothing in this big beautiful law that will stop a person from being true to his faith in The Sustainable Organic Church of the Carbon Apocalypse. He can still buy a Tesla or any other electric vehicle, install a car charger in his home, and produce some of the electricity on his very own rooftop solar array. None of this will be prohibited. It’s just not going to be subsidized by the rest of us. Let freedom ring. There are still a lot of “small government conservatives” criticizing the OBBB. I’d caution fellow conservatives to be careful about nodding too vigorously with these critics who accuse the OBBB being a “tax-and-spend bill,” since we conservatives are famously anti-tax. Everyone who is losing a “green” tax credit will be facing a “tax increase,” which was really just a very special, targeted incentive subsidized by the rest of us. The elimination of tax exemptions for adversaries seeking to deny me reliable energy and transportation freedom is a “tax increase” I can enthusiastically support.
“You know,” he said, “my biggest regret isn’t those lost years. It’s how it hurt my folks. They had to always try to avoid talking about family. They stopped going out much. It hurts to have to say, ‘My boy is in prison in Huntsville.’ Mom died while I was in prison, and I missed her funeral. I’ve paid my debt to society. I think I’ve overpaid. By looking out for Dad, I can try to repay a more important debt.”
The story is behind a paywall, but if you’re a Blaze subscriber I’d be honored if you’d give it a read.
My latest piece at The Blaze: "From Prison to Pier: The Unlikely Wisdom of a Catfisherman"
— Buck Throckmorton (@BuckThrockmort) July 6, 2025
"Catching a hardhead always recalls the gentle ex-convict whose path in life briefly intersected with mine one morning on a South Texas pier."https://t.co/MJcSlFmSDU
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Sponge!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:00 AM (erzCX)
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st?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 11:01 AM (dPfyF)
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Podium
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 11:02 AM (+qU29)
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Not first. *sigh*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 11:02 AM (dPfyF)
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yes I started reading the catfishing story but the paywall stopped me
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)
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The left tells me that we need to stop "handouts" to the rich.
But then they tell me we have to keep in all the green energy handouts which go almost 100% to the rich.
Why its almost like the lie about everything they claim to believe.
But then they tell me we have to keep in all the green energy handouts which go almost 100% to the rich.
Why its almost like the lie about everything they claim to believe.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 11:03 AM (t0Rmr)
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Good morning, Buck. Appreciate your perspective on this portion of the bill.
Posted by: Doof at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (5jU2p)
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The elimination of the EV and Green Energy credits is what really set Musk off.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (VofaG)
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yes I started reading the catfishing story but the paywall stopped me
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)
Yep. If things aren't free, they're not meant for me. I'm not going to sign up to read a page's comments either.
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)
Yep. If things aren't free, they're not meant for me. I'm not going to sign up to read a page's comments either.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (0eaVi)
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We have way too many CEOs who bought into this crap.
They should suffer for their stupidity, but they'll be rewarded, instead.
They should suffer for their stupidity, but they'll be rewarded, instead.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
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Is the removal of these subsidies going to cause us to die? I have a few things to plan out if that's the case.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (svLOV)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:05 AM (0eaVi)
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What's the status of the government-built EV charging stations for which we paid tens of billions and got maybe seven? Will that nonsense continue?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
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It's like I don't know you people anymore.
Posted by: Billy Thorpe at July 07, 2025 11:05 AM (vFG9F)
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Why its almost like the lie about everything they claim to believe.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 11:03 AM (t0Rmr)
The secret is that they don't actually believe anything. They just make sounds with their food holes and wait to see if everyone else makes the right sounds with their own food holes in response.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 11:03 AM (t0Rmr)
The secret is that they don't actually believe anything. They just make sounds with their food holes and wait to see if everyone else makes the right sounds with their own food holes in response.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 11:05 AM (VoAdT)
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Happy World Chocolate Day!
Posted by: Microsoft Useless Information File at July 07, 2025 11:06 AM (zsjuF)
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There are some good things in this bill.. Not sure if they make up for the bad stuff but we will see... On a different note I see the media/dems really are running with the "Trump cuts to FEMA/NWS was responsible for the Texas flood deaths "... I just can't....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:06 AM (VE6XX)
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The secret is that they don't actually believe anything. They just make sounds with their food holes and wait to see if everyone else makes the right sounds with their own food holes in response.
The secret is that they believe they are a higher form of life, and everyone else should spend their miserable lives attending to them.
The secret is that they believe they are a higher form of life, and everyone else should spend their miserable lives attending to them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:06 AM (Riz8t)
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Let the true competition begin.
Damn. I do not think Beshear is going to get that second battery plant built.
Damn. I do not think Beshear is going to get that second battery plant built.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (bss/y)
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The Big Beautiful Bill Has Just Kneecapped Green Energy and the “EV Transition”
Is this a good thing? Cuz I was assured that the BBB was entirely bad and only spent money.
Is this a good thing? Cuz I was assured that the BBB was entirely bad and only spent money.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (ExV1e)
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yes I started reading the catfishing story but the paywall stopped me
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)
Yep. If things aren't free, they're not meant for me. I'm not going to sign up to read a page's comments either.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (0eaVi)
The Fox News site just wants my email info to read a number of their articles. Not going to do it. They started this a year ago where you were restricted from almost all the articles. Now it’s just a few. I think they saw the readership go way down.
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 11:02 AM (dCxaZ)
Yep. If things aren't free, they're not meant for me. I'm not going to sign up to read a page's comments either.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (0eaVi)
The Fox News site just wants my email info to read a number of their articles. Not going to do it. They started this a year ago where you were restricted from almost all the articles. Now it’s just a few. I think they saw the readership go way down.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (VofaG)
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with the "Trump cuts to FEMA/NWS was responsible for the Texas flood deaths "... I just can't....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:06 AM (VE6XX)
I have the nagging feeling that they've already ran this exact same play several times before, and it's blown up in their faces. As it likely shall again.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:06 AM (VE6XX)
I have the nagging feeling that they've already ran this exact same play several times before, and it's blown up in their faces. As it likely shall again.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (VoAdT)
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I don’t recall seeing any Teslas on my recent trip back to Michigan. And only one Cybertruck, on the OH Turnpike east of the exit for Toledo.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)
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The new spending following the tremendous cost-cutting efforts by DOGE is why Elon was disparaging the bill on X, but this is why he said he was starting another third party:
"Electric Vehicles: The $7,500 per unit federal tax credit for the purchase of new EVs is eliminated effective 9/30/2025 – less than three months! The $4,000 federal incentive for buying a used EV is also killed off."
"Electric Vehicles: The $7,500 per unit federal tax credit for the purchase of new EVs is eliminated effective 9/30/2025 – less than three months! The $4,000 federal incentive for buying a used EV is also killed off."
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (36PRH)
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Listening to a very Appalachian version of the National Anthem (streaming a short track stockcar race in North Carolina). They didn't mention who did it. It was beautiful.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (sAmhv)
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There's a little known provision in the BBB in which all the penalties for not following CAFE standards in car making. In other words, auto makers can start making things like smaller pickups, utes, and station wagons that were phased out because of fuel standard rules.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (dfIr7)
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23 I don’t recall seeing any Teslas on my recent trip back to Michigan. And only one Cybertruck, on the OH Turnpike east of the exit for Toledo.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)
I still see quite a few Teslas and a couple cybertrucks here.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (77rzZ)
I still see quite a few Teslas and a couple cybertrucks here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (bss/y)
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Dismantling at least part of the stupid NFA is a big win for the BBB. Baby steps...hopefully more restoration of gun owner rights in the future.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:09 AM (XMwZJ)
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In other words, auto makers can start making things like smaller pickups, utes, and station wagons that were phased out because of fuel standard rules.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (dfIr7)
Now they just have to completely change their tooling and supply chains.
Of course, Toyota still makes smaller trucks for other countries...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (dfIr7)
Now they just have to completely change their tooling and supply chains.
Of course, Toyota still makes smaller trucks for other countries...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
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I still see quite a few Teslas and a couple cybertrucks here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (bss/y)
Here in NorCal every other car is a Tesla
I still see quite a few Teslas and a couple cybertrucks here.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (bss/y)
Here in NorCal every other car is a Tesla
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:09 AM (VE6XX)
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As a new homeowner as of literally 7 days, maybe I want an electric vehicle burning in the garage.
Oh wait.
Nah I'm good.
Oh wait.
Nah I'm good.
Posted by: Stateless BUT NOT HOMELESS! 90%- mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (jvJvP)
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@27 Same where I am in SC.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (36PRH)
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I see lots of Teslas in my part of TX. Cybertrucks...not so much. Because they're stupid.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (XMwZJ)
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"“You know,” he said, “my biggest regret isn’t those lost years. It’s how it hurt my folks. They had to always try to avoid talking about family. They stopped going out much. It hurts to have to say, ‘My boy is in prison in Huntsville.’ Mom died while I was in prison, and I missed her funeral. I’ve paid my debt to society. I think I’ve overpaid. By looking out for Dad, I can try to repay a more important debt.”
Most criminals suffer from a lack of empathy. (Also a lot of people who skirt the line on being criminals). They don't care who they hurt, they want what they want and it doesn't matter who it costs.
Gaining an understanding of how much you hurt not only your victims but also others (like this guy's parents) is the beginning of becoming a civilized person.
Most criminals suffer from a lack of empathy. (Also a lot of people who skirt the line on being criminals). They don't care who they hurt, they want what they want and it doesn't matter who it costs.
Gaining an understanding of how much you hurt not only your victims but also others (like this guy's parents) is the beginning of becoming a civilized person.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (N1DT3)
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At some point you would think they'd learn not to point and scream at Trump's successes while screaming "Trump is failing!"
It's like Chicken Little in reverse or something. I don't think there's ever actually been a fable or fairy tale with that moral because no one has ever been that flipping dense to ever need to learn that lesson.
It's like Chicken Little in reverse or something. I don't think there's ever actually been a fable or fairy tale with that moral because no one has ever been that flipping dense to ever need to learn that lesson.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 11:11 AM (VoAdT)
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33 I see lots of Teslas in my part of TX. Cybertrucks...not so much. Because they're stupid.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (XMwZJ)
So, if cold does bad things for range, does heat do the opposite? Especially when you have the AC cranked?
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (XMwZJ)
So, if cold does bad things for range, does heat do the opposite? Especially when you have the AC cranked?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:11 AM (bss/y)
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22 with the "Trump cuts to FEMA/NWS was responsible for the Texas flood deaths "... I just can't....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:06 AM (VE6XX)
I have the nagging feeling that they've already ran this exact same play several times before, and it's blown up in their faces. As it likely shall again.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
They are trying to 'Katrina' Trump. It won't work. Different time and the newz pyrsonz have long since destroyed there credibility. Oh, you'll still have the True Believers, who will BELIEVE what there cult dictates, and Partisan Hack Grifters doing what they do, but that can't be helped.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:06 AM (VE6XX)
I have the nagging feeling that they've already ran this exact same play several times before, and it's blown up in their faces. As it likely shall again.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
They are trying to 'Katrina' Trump. It won't work. Different time and the newz pyrsonz have long since destroyed there credibility. Oh, you'll still have the True Believers, who will BELIEVE what there cult dictates, and Partisan Hack Grifters doing what they do, but that can't be helped.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (sAmhv)
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Let the true competition begin.
Damn. I do not think Beshear is going to get that second battery plant built.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (bss/y)
He’s thinking of running for President again.
What are you guys in Kentucky doing to us! 😀
Damn. I do not think Beshear is going to get that second battery plant built.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (bss/y)
He’s thinking of running for President again.
What are you guys in Kentucky doing to us! 😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (VofaG)
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Steve Baker@SteveBakerUSA
There are only two explanations for this latest turn of Epstein events. And they are ultimately one and the same:
1 - the client list is so vast and bipartisan, its revelation would obliterate any and all public trust in every branch and function of government.
2 - Epstein was working hand in hand with @FBI and @CIA from the jump.
Raise your hand if you still trust your government?
There are only two explanations for this latest turn of Epstein events. And they are ultimately one and the same:
1 - the client list is so vast and bipartisan, its revelation would obliterate any and all public trust in every branch and function of government.
2 - Epstein was working hand in hand with @FBI and @CIA from the jump.
Raise your hand if you still trust your government?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (TGPs7)
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Perhaps most significant to me is that the OBBB has killed off the “EV transition” effective almost immediately. In addition, green energy boondoggles will have to come up with a business plan that doesn’t involve taxpayer subsidization. We are also likely near the end of the environmental nightmare of wind energy, and industrial-scale solar.
Which is why Elon is going berserk.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Which is why Elon is going berserk.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 07, 2025 11:13 AM (xTIDn)
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Damn. I do not think Beshear is going to get that second battery plant built.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (bss/y)
He’s thinking of running for President again.
Young, good looking.. He'll swing to the middle.. He has a chance...
Damn. I do not think Beshear is going to get that second battery plant built.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (bss/y)
He’s thinking of running for President again.
Young, good looking.. He'll swing to the middle.. He has a chance...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:13 AM (VE6XX)
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@36 I always understood battery drain accelerates with heat (and humidity). That's why some clinics keep batteries in the freezer. Cold slows down the chemical reactions that generate a current.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:14 AM (36PRH)
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There are only two explanations for this latest turn of Epstein events. And they are ultimately one and the same:
Bill Gates has a lot of money.
We know that he is on the nonexistent list, since one of the reason why his wife divorced him was his repeated visits to Redo Island.
Bill Gates has a lot of money.
We know that he is on the nonexistent list, since one of the reason why his wife divorced him was his repeated visits to Redo Island.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 07, 2025 11:14 AM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 11:14 AM (77rzZ)
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What are you guys in Kentucky doing to us! 😀
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (VofaG)
I'd say he is a bit too bland for the National ticket, but we do suck.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (VofaG)
I'd say he is a bit too bland for the National ticket, but we do suck.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:15 AM (bss/y)
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Now they just have to completely change their tooling and supply chains.
Well, and you have 3½ years before there's a new president. Is it worth the cost of designing and retooling and making a new car in that time frame just to possibly have a new president that reverses the change and starts enforcing the penalties again? There might even be a new congress in 2 years that flips this again.
It might not be worth it for the auto companies to take advantage of this.
Well, and you have 3½ years before there's a new president. Is it worth the cost of designing and retooling and making a new car in that time frame just to possibly have a new president that reverses the change and starts enforcing the penalties again? There might even be a new congress in 2 years that flips this again.
It might not be worth it for the auto companies to take advantage of this.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:15 AM (dfIr7)
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Fed-o Island?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 11:15 AM (VoAdT)
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We’ll see what happens with the residential solar panel market.
Is everything really so expensive that the financial math only works for the homeowner if they get that 30% tax credit? Or did these companies just price everything to maximize their profit accounting for the credit?
I probably need to start saving for if the local company goes out of business and I need to service/remove the panels on my roof.
Is everything really so expensive that the financial math only works for the homeowner if they get that 30% tax credit? Or did these companies just price everything to maximize their profit accounting for the credit?
I probably need to start saving for if the local company goes out of business and I need to service/remove the panels on my roof.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:15 AM (TJLr1)
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23 I don’t recall seeing any Teslas on my recent trip back to Michigan. And only one Cybertruck, on the OH Turnpike east of the exit for Toledo.
Posted by: Bulg
There's a few cybertrucks in my neck of the woods, one with a distinctive black finish.
Soccermomobiles, it would seem. They draw snickers from passerbys while parked at Meijers.
Posted by: Bulg
There's a few cybertrucks in my neck of the woods, one with a distinctive black finish.
Soccermomobiles, it would seem. They draw snickers from passerbys while parked at Meijers.
Posted by: Auspex at July 07, 2025 11:15 AM (j4U/Z)
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The left tells me that we need to stop "handouts" to the rich.
But then they tell me we have to keep in all the green energy handouts which go almost 100% to the rich.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 11:03 AM (t0Rmr)
They also tell us that SALT deductions need to be really high.
But then they tell me we have to keep in all the green energy handouts which go almost 100% to the rich.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 11:03 AM (t0Rmr)
They also tell us that SALT deductions need to be really high.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (ExV1e)
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1 - the client list is so vast and bipartisan, its revelation would obliterate any and all public trust in every branch and function of government.
2 - Epstein was working hand in hand with @FBI and @CIA from the jump.
Raise your hand if you still trust your government?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (TGPs7)
I’m not seeing the difference between explanation 1 and 2…
2 - Epstein was working hand in hand with @FBI and @CIA from the jump.
Raise your hand if you still trust your government?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (TGPs7)
I’m not seeing the difference between explanation 1 and 2…
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (TJLr1)
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Teslas are well represented in local suburban/ex-urban traffic. At any major thoroughfare traffic light, there are bound to be 1 - 2 Teslas in the crowd.
Posted by: Count de Monet, Flatlander at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (wVcYX)
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42 @36 I always understood battery drain accelerates with heat (and humidity). That's why some clinics keep batteries in the freezer. Cold slows down the chemical reactions that generate a current.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:14 AM (36PRH)
Dad (electrical engineer) always kept batteries in the fridge. But those are dry cells. Make any difference for modern rechargeable?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:14 AM (36PRH)
Dad (electrical engineer) always kept batteries in the fridge. But those are dry cells. Make any difference for modern rechargeable?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (bss/y)
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This is a fine column, Buck, but an EV story without conflagration pictures is incomplete.
Posted by: The Huge Manatee! at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (G5+As)
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Which is why Elon is going berserk.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 07, 2025 11:13 AM (xTIDn)
Agreed. He hasn't yet figured out that there's no H1-B + green energy constituency, outside of the far left and a few never Trumpers who will jump in, just because.
He says he's making a political party, and he doesn't even have any coherent message for that party to support yet.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 07, 2025 11:13 AM (xTIDn)
Agreed. He hasn't yet figured out that there's no H1-B + green energy constituency, outside of the far left and a few never Trumpers who will jump in, just because.
He says he's making a political party, and he doesn't even have any coherent message for that party to support yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (uWKK8)
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42 @36 I always understood battery drain accelerates with heat (and humidity). That's why some clinics keep batteries in the freezer. Cold slows down the chemical reactions that generate a current.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:14 AM (36PRH)
My Daughter has a Tesla.. During the Tesla burnings/attacks she kept the alarms on 24/7.. She said it really drains the car.. She has it for around town.. Has gas vehicle for everything else...
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:14 AM (36PRH)
My Daughter has a Tesla.. During the Tesla burnings/attacks she kept the alarms on 24/7.. She said it really drains the car.. She has it for around town.. Has gas vehicle for everything else...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (VE6XX)
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The Fox News site just wants my email info to read a number of their articles. Not going to do it. They started this a year ago where you were restricted from almost all the articles. Now it’s just a few. I think they saw the readership go way down.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (VofaG)
I'd read Buck's stuff, but I don't want to give a flake like Beck any money, sorry.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:07 AM (VofaG)
I'd read Buck's stuff, but I don't want to give a flake like Beck any money, sorry.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (0eaVi)
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Great piece Buck. A lot of this important detail has been lost while,the Democrats brayed about Medicaid and SNAP playing to their indigent base.
No wonder Elon is pissed.😏
No wonder Elon is pissed.😏
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 07, 2025 11:17 AM (t/2Uw)
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Which is why Elon is going berserk.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Yes. His altruism is situational. I don't hate Elon. He's interesting. I appreciate his help with the election. He's not immune to selfish motives. His whole motivation is going and colonizing Mars. Everything else is to make that motivation come true.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Yes. His altruism is situational. I don't hate Elon. He's interesting. I appreciate his help with the election. He's not immune to selfish motives. His whole motivation is going and colonizing Mars. Everything else is to make that motivation come true.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 11:17 AM (sAmhv)
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Which is why Elon is going berserk.
I am coming to the theory that he's trying to pressure Trump in some way or to do something, that this is all about negotiating tactics between two tycoons.
I am coming to the theory that he's trying to pressure Trump in some way or to do something, that this is all about negotiating tactics between two tycoons.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:17 AM (dfIr7)
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Good rant. Thanks.
We shall see. I don't know what was signed into law. However, reported in part by NBC on June 30th -
"The Senate bill would go further than the earlier version passed in the House by imposing new tax penalties on wind and solar farm projects started after 2027, unless they met certain requirements. That could jeopardize billions of dollars in investments in clean energy projects — along with the thousands of jobs that would come along with those projects, including in Republican-led states like Georgia and South Carolina.
Other provisions would reduce benefits for consumers buying electric vehicles, solar panels and appliances to make their homes more energy efficient."
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The local Leftists seem pretty content and now have lots to holler about, too.
Every single benefit being touted via the Big Beautiful Bill seems not to go into effect until 2027.
In the meantime, what's its effect on Biden's "Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, officially known as the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA)?'
We shall see. I don't know what was signed into law. However, reported in part by NBC on June 30th -
"The Senate bill would go further than the earlier version passed in the House by imposing new tax penalties on wind and solar farm projects started after 2027, unless they met certain requirements. That could jeopardize billions of dollars in investments in clean energy projects — along with the thousands of jobs that would come along with those projects, including in Republican-led states like Georgia and South Carolina.
Other provisions would reduce benefits for consumers buying electric vehicles, solar panels and appliances to make their homes more energy efficient."
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The local Leftists seem pretty content and now have lots to holler about, too.
Every single benefit being touted via the Big Beautiful Bill seems not to go into effect until 2027.
In the meantime, what's its effect on Biden's "Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, officially known as the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA)?'
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 11:17 AM (NFX2v)
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39 Steve Baker@SteveBakerUSA
There are only two explanations for this latest turn of Epstein events. And they are ultimately one and the same:
1 - the client list is so vast and bipartisan, its revelation would obliterate any and all public trust in every branch and function of government.
2 - Epstein was working hand in hand with @FBI and @CIA from the jump.
Raise your hand if you still trust your government?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (TGPs7)
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There's a third theory being floated: Leak test. Only one news outlet, Axios, is running with this story.
That's a huge leak test if true.
There are only two explanations for this latest turn of Epstein events. And they are ultimately one and the same:
1 - the client list is so vast and bipartisan, its revelation would obliterate any and all public trust in every branch and function of government.
2 - Epstein was working hand in hand with @FBI and @CIA from the jump.
Raise your hand if you still trust your government?
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:12 AM (TGPs7)
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There's a third theory being floated: Leak test. Only one news outlet, Axios, is running with this story.
That's a huge leak test if true.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:18 AM (G0vdT)
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Is everything really so expensive that the financial math only works for the homeowner if they get that 30% tax credit? Or did these companies just price everything to maximize their profit accounting for the credit?
Probably the latter.
Although good-quality maintenance-free LiFePO batteries for making your solar system useful run about $1000 each.
Probably the latter.
Although good-quality maintenance-free LiFePO batteries for making your solar system useful run about $1000 each.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 07, 2025 11:18 AM (a+4eV)
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He says he's making a political party, and he doesn't even have any coherent message for that party to support yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (uWKK
"Basically Trump, but without all that annoying emotional restraint and tactical caution."
Bold strategy, Elon.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (uWKK
"Basically Trump, but without all that annoying emotional restraint and tactical caution."
Bold strategy, Elon.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 11:18 AM (VoAdT)
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My Daughter has a Tesla.. During the Tesla burnings/attacks she kept the alarms on 24/7.. She said it really drains the car.. She has it for around town.. Has gas vehicle for everything else...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (VE6XX)
Which is how EVs should be utilized.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (VE6XX)
Which is how EVs should be utilized.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:19 AM (VofaG)
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In other words, auto makers can start making things like smaller pickups, utes, and station wagons that were phased out because of fuel standard rules.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (dfIr7)
Now they just have to completely change their tooling and supply chains.
Of course, Toyota still makes smaller trucks for other countries...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
I suspect that it's not CAFE that killed the Hilux in the US but various other "safety" features.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:08 AM (dfIr7)
Now they just have to completely change their tooling and supply chains.
Of course, Toyota still makes smaller trucks for other countries...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:09 AM (bss/y)
I suspect that it's not CAFE that killed the Hilux in the US but various other "safety" features.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:19 AM (ExV1e)
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I've seen two cyber trucks in the Fort Smith area. One has some advertising on it, the other plain. The plain one is always parked in front of a high end pawn shop leading me to believe the thing was pawned and not redeemed. Maybe somebody cutting their losses. The shop drives it. I have no idea where they get serviced around here, thinking the closest would be Tulsa.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 07, 2025 11:20 AM (gm9Sb)
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At some point you would think they'd learn not to point and scream at Trump's successes while screaming "Trump is failing!"
It's like Chicken Little in reverse or something.
IOW, the Streisand Effect. The Dems are hysterically claiming that the cuts Trump makes in his budget have devastated the NWS people who would have theoretically saved the victims of the flood. The only problem is that those people haven't actually been cut yet.
It's like Chicken Little in reverse or something.
IOW, the Streisand Effect. The Dems are hysterically claiming that the cuts Trump makes in his budget have devastated the NWS people who would have theoretically saved the victims of the flood. The only problem is that those people haven't actually been cut yet.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:20 AM (Riz8t)
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I see lots of Teslas in my part of TX. Cybertrucks...not so much. Because they're stupid.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (XMwZJ)
I see tons of Teslas and a lot of cybertrucks but we have a giant Tesla factory in south Austin.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (XMwZJ)
I see tons of Teslas and a lot of cybertrucks but we have a giant Tesla factory in south Austin.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:20 AM (ExV1e)
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36 So, if cold does bad things for range, does heat do the opposite? Especially when you have the AC cranked?
dunno 'bout straight electrics, but my prius is sluggish and hesistant on really hot days until it can manage to get the battery cooled off enough to accept juice.
dunno 'bout straight electrics, but my prius is sluggish and hesistant on really hot days until it can manage to get the battery cooled off enough to accept juice.
Posted by: anachronda at July 07, 2025 11:20 AM (v3pYe)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (TGPs7)
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Although good-quality maintenance-free LiFePO batteries for making your solar system useful run about $1000 each.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 07, 2025 11:18 AM (a+4eV)
Specifically declined to get batteries because of the cost and lifetime of them.
I use my panels for electric bill removal, not for power when the grid is down. I can (and need to) buy a generator for a fraction of the cost of those batteries.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at July 07, 2025 11:18 AM (a+4eV)
Specifically declined to get batteries because of the cost and lifetime of them.
I use my panels for electric bill removal, not for power when the grid is down. I can (and need to) buy a generator for a fraction of the cost of those batteries.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (TJLr1)
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36 33 I see lots of Teslas in my part of TX. Cybertrucks...not so much. Because they're stupid.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (XMwZJ)
My entire townhome community has 2 Teslas and no other EVs...EVs are for the rich and garage-owning...
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:10 AM (XMwZJ)
My entire townhome community has 2 Teslas and no other EVs...EVs are for the rich and garage-owning...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (tOcjL)
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Let freedom ring.
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This is so highly triggering that I began shaking so hard my front tooth came out!
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This is so highly triggering that I began shaking so hard my front tooth came out!
Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (4x/Ew)
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Can I ask why Epstein would keep a client list? Like was it written on paper or in a little black book ?Considering that his address book has already been published along with the flight logs I’m not sure why people think there’s some specific list that he kept ticking off whether Prince Andrew liked blondes, or Bill Clinton needed massages to get his Peyroni up.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (4UCRK)
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The elimination of the EV and Green Energy credits is what really set Musk off.
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It's certainly easy to believe. Those credits cut right into his target consumer base.
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It's certainly easy to believe. Those credits cut right into his target consumer base.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (qBdHI)
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Why, exactly, would the government have to bribe people to adopt things (solar panels, "efficient" appliances, etc.) that would supposedly save them money? Because it's mostly bullshit.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (XMwZJ)
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He says he's making a political party, and he doesn't even have any coherent message for that party to support yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (uWKK
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His plan just throws control to the Dem's who will in turn censor him, increase the already crazy spending, and flood the country with illegal immigration.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:16 AM (uWKK
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His plan just throws control to the Dem's who will in turn censor him, increase the already crazy spending, and flood the country with illegal immigration.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (G0vdT)
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Elon's Starship project is the other worrisome aspect of the God-Emperor of Mars goal he seems to have set for himself.
Launch Towers going up at Canaveral and Vandenburg and no indication yet that the thing will be operable, much less reliable, for this decade.
Elon's Starship project is the other worrisome aspect of the God-Emperor of Mars goal he seems to have set for himself.
Launch Towers going up at Canaveral and Vandenburg and no indication yet that the thing will be operable, much less reliable, for this decade.
Posted by: Auspex at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (j4U/Z)
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Excessive heat is an Achilles Heel for batteries.
As temperatures go down, the internal resistance goes up, and delivering current is choked off. Charging becomes more problematic, and higher voltages needed to compensate. It’s a double whammy, this why before electronic ignition, and alternators, trying to start a cold engine in the morning caused the starter to balk. Thick oil, frozen condensation internally, and a battery with about 50% of normal juice.
Battery charging is temperature dependent, underhood temperatures are probably what, 150F? But charging voltages are not reduced. This ruins batteries before their time. Natural discharge is accelerated, as all chemical reactions are.
Batteries die in July. They just don’t keel over till November.
As temperatures go down, the internal resistance goes up, and delivering current is choked off. Charging becomes more problematic, and higher voltages needed to compensate. It’s a double whammy, this why before electronic ignition, and alternators, trying to start a cold engine in the morning caused the starter to balk. Thick oil, frozen condensation internally, and a battery with about 50% of normal juice.
Battery charging is temperature dependent, underhood temperatures are probably what, 150F? But charging voltages are not reduced. This ruins batteries before their time. Natural discharge is accelerated, as all chemical reactions are.
Batteries die in July. They just don’t keel over till November.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (GDXa0)
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the client list is so vast and bipartisan, its revelation would obliterate any and all public trust in every branch and function of government.
I think Axios is playing games with words. My guess is that Epstein didn't blackmail anyone, hence there was no blackmail client list. That doesn't mean he has no list of friends and people that he would party with and supply kids to, just not a "client list."
That part doesn't concern me much. What concerns me is that we were told by the DOJ that all the cameras were off so nobody could see what Epstein was doing, and now supposedly we're getting footage? How?
I think Axios is playing games with words. My guess is that Epstein didn't blackmail anyone, hence there was no blackmail client list. That doesn't mean he has no list of friends and people that he would party with and supply kids to, just not a "client list."
That part doesn't concern me much. What concerns me is that we were told by the DOJ that all the cameras were off so nobody could see what Epstein was doing, and now supposedly we're getting footage? How?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (dfIr7)
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I always understood battery drain accelerates with heat (and humidity). That's why some clinics keep batteries in the freezer. Cold slows down the chemical reactions that generate a current.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
Heat kills.
Everything.
Batteries included.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO
Heat kills.
Everything.
Batteries included.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (erzCX)
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We’ll see what happens with the residential solar panel market.
Is everything really so expensive that the financial math only works for the homeowner if they get that 30% tax credit? Or did these companies just price everything to maximize their profit accounting for the credit?
Depends on how fast the price of electricity rises.
Is everything really so expensive that the financial math only works for the homeowner if they get that 30% tax credit? Or did these companies just price everything to maximize their profit accounting for the credit?
Depends on how fast the price of electricity rises.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (ExV1e)
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There is nothing these days that won’t be leaked. A successful conspiracy can’t have a 100 people in on the conspiracy. This is why I believe Epstein killed himself and that the Trump administration is not covering up.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:24 AM (VofaG)
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60 Which is why Elon is going berserk.
I am coming to the theory that he's trying to pressure Trump in some way or to do something, that this is all about negotiating tactics between two tycoons.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:17 AM (dfIr7)
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Elon doesn't seem to have any idea what he's doing.
Setting up a new political party to undermine the GOP when the GOP is led by Trump is a recipe for quick failure. His best bet for converts are going to be Democrats sick of their party, but they're not going to be all that into any of his core issues (the debt and battling the woke mind virus, which he seems to not actually care about anymore).
He's gonna shoot for the moon this midterm, get dashed upon the rocks before primary season is over, and probably swear off politics forever.
I am coming to the theory that he's trying to pressure Trump in some way or to do something, that this is all about negotiating tactics between two tycoons.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:17 AM (dfIr7)
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Elon doesn't seem to have any idea what he's doing.
Setting up a new political party to undermine the GOP when the GOP is led by Trump is a recipe for quick failure. His best bet for converts are going to be Democrats sick of their party, but they're not going to be all that into any of his core issues (the debt and battling the woke mind virus, which he seems to not actually care about anymore).
He's gonna shoot for the moon this midterm, get dashed upon the rocks before primary season is over, and probably swear off politics forever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
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75 Can I ask why Epstein would keep a client list? Like was it written on paper or in a little black book ?Considering that his address book has already been published along with the flight logs I’m not sure why people think there’s some specific list that he kept ticking off whether Prince Andrew liked blondes, or Bill Clinton needed massages to get his Peyroni up.
Posted by: Jen the original
Or. The client 'list' was kept by the various IC agencies that used him. He never had the 'list'.
Posted by: Jen the original
Or. The client 'list' was kept by the various IC agencies that used him. He never had the 'list'.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 11:24 AM (sAmhv)
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"There is no Epstein client list"
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Of course there is. This is a stupid claim on its face. As a "money manager", a client list is a legal requirement.
While we are at it, there is a complete list of people who visited his houses, especially pedo island, or traveled on his jets. All of this information should be released.
The combination of lists of his "business" and his property visits are his "client list", in the absence of a document labeled "Client List", so don't make ridiculous claims like "there is no Client List".
Moreover Epstein famously video recorded all of his properties. All of that should be public.
This is a scandalous coverup.
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Of course there is. This is a stupid claim on its face. As a "money manager", a client list is a legal requirement.
While we are at it, there is a complete list of people who visited his houses, especially pedo island, or traveled on his jets. All of this information should be released.
The combination of lists of his "business" and his property visits are his "client list", in the absence of a document labeled "Client List", so don't make ridiculous claims like "there is no Client List".
Moreover Epstein famously video recorded all of his properties. All of that should be public.
This is a scandalous coverup.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 07, 2025 11:25 AM (IUrgC)
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His plan just throws control to the Dem's who will in turn censor him, increase the already crazy spending, and flood the country with illegal immigration.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (G0vdT)
Ask the Libertarians how that’s going for them.
Getting a 3rd party off the ground is difficult. Musk doesn’t have the advantage of putting himself at the top of the ticket, al a Ross Perot.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (G0vdT)
Ask the Libertarians how that’s going for them.
Getting a 3rd party off the ground is difficult. Musk doesn’t have the advantage of putting himself at the top of the ticket, al a Ross Perot.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:25 AM (TJLr1)
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Depends on how fast the price of electricity rises.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (ExV1e)
Daughter just went solar... Her monthly electric bill was between 500-750 a month.. Solar is costing 250 and any excess can be sold to PGE..
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (ExV1e)
Daughter just went solar... Her monthly electric bill was between 500-750 a month.. Solar is costing 250 and any excess can be sold to PGE..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:25 AM (VE6XX)
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This article is from 5 years ago...
https://tinyurl.com/k62h9tvb
Why haven't we heard more about this tech from Samsung (silver carbon film solid-sfate batteries)? Unlike China they tend to back up their claims with evidence.
https://tinyurl.com/k62h9tvb
Why haven't we heard more about this tech from Samsung (silver carbon film solid-sfate batteries)? Unlike China they tend to back up their claims with evidence.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:25 AM (36PRH)
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I suspect that it's not CAFE that killed the Hilux in the US but various other "safety" features.
CAFE killed the small pickup truck because of how the rules were written. They went with "footprint" or size of the car, and compared that with fuel efficiency. Small pickups are classified more like cars, and get lousy gas mileage compared to their size, but large pickups are classified as trucks and have different rules. This killed the small pickup, a hugely popular type of car.
That's how I understand it anyway. The safety stuff does play into it though, because it increases weight and causes design issues.
CAFE killed the small pickup truck because of how the rules were written. They went with "footprint" or size of the car, and compared that with fuel efficiency. Small pickups are classified more like cars, and get lousy gas mileage compared to their size, but large pickups are classified as trucks and have different rules. This killed the small pickup, a hugely popular type of car.
That's how I understand it anyway. The safety stuff does play into it though, because it increases weight and causes design issues.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (dfIr7)
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Can I ask why Epstein would keep a client list? Like was it written on paper or in a little black book ?Considering that his address book has already been published along with the flight logs I’m not sure why people think there’s some specific list that he kept ticking off whether Prince Andrew liked blondes, or Bill Clinton needed massages to get his Peyroni up.
Posted by: Jen the original
Like bookies. No names.
"Yeah. This is 6752. I'd like two cheese pizzas with extra toppings for the weekend of 07-12".
Posted by: Jen the original
Like bookies. No names.
"Yeah. This is 6752. I'd like two cheese pizzas with extra toppings for the weekend of 07-12".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (erzCX)
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I know that I read on here when the bill was in the Senate that there were enough loopholes put into the bill, specifically one paragraph, that effectively made the bill useless to stopping green energy projects.
What happened to that?
What happened to that?
Posted by: anon2020 at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (RqMDa)
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He's gonna shoot for the moon this midterm, get dashed upon the rocks before primary season is over, and probably swear off politics forever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
The ol’ “rich man dips into politics” cycle.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO)
The ol’ “rich man dips into politics” cycle.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (TJLr1)
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I can't think of a single windmill farm or solar farm that would be economically feasible without a subsidy.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (Vfq+S)
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Batteries not appreciably different than your car, used in stationary service like phone service or remote locations typically last 20 or 30 years. Heat, and vibration, are the great battery killers.
Parasitic loads on modern cars and trucks too. The 12 volt system debuted in 1956, now the vampire components drain them down even when the car is turned off.
Parasitic loads on modern cars and trucks too. The 12 volt system debuted in 1956, now the vampire components drain them down even when the car is turned off.
Posted by: Common Tater at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (J8tyi)
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I really don't understand Elon's new political party idea. All I hear is that the BBB did not cut spending enough to stop incurring more debt. How exactly did he think that could be done in one fell swoop? People on X who,support him keep saying it could have been done, it can be done and somehow this brand new party will get it done. But how? No plan, no new ideas. No platform. It is just ridiculous.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (t/2Uw)
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I suspect that it's not CAFE that killed the Hilux in the US but various other "safety" features.
Hard points. ATF frowns on hard points.
Hard points. ATF frowns on hard points.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (erzCX)
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He says he's making a political party, and he doesn't even have any coherent message for that party to support yet.
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The party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases and spending cuts. Nothing will be off the table for spending cuts, except for all the favored spending priorities of the people that need to be brought into the party to make it somewhat viable. Meaning in the end, the party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases. A winning formula!
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The party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases and spending cuts. Nothing will be off the table for spending cuts, except for all the favored spending priorities of the people that need to be brought into the party to make it somewhat viable. Meaning in the end, the party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases. A winning formula!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (Dv3i1)
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Can I ask why Epstein would keep a client list? Like was it written on paper or in a little black book ?Considering that his address book has already been published along with the flight logs I’m not sure why people think there’s some specific list that he kept ticking off whether Prince Andrew liked blondes, or Bill Clinton needed massages to get his Peyroni up.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (4UCRK)
Same question as why would the Germans keep such meticulous records of their evil deeds? You gotta know, I guess, how much is going in and out and what you have for blackmail on your clients. I mean, the haircutting place knows how I want my cut, so someone like Epstein needs to keep straight each client's fetish.
Posted by: Jen the original at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (4UCRK)
Same question as why would the Germans keep such meticulous records of their evil deeds? You gotta know, I guess, how much is going in and out and what you have for blackmail on your clients. I mean, the haircutting place knows how I want my cut, so someone like Epstein needs to keep straight each client's fetish.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (0eaVi)
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89 Depends on how fast the price of electricity rises.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (ExV1e)
Daughter just went solar... Her monthly electric bill was between 500-750 a month.. Solar is costing 250 and any excess can be sold to PGE..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:25 AM (VE6XX)
Damn, how much space does she power? My bill is under $250/month even in summer, and my whole townhome is electric (no gas, no nothing)...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:23 AM (ExV1e)
Daughter just went solar... Her monthly electric bill was between 500-750 a month.. Solar is costing 250 and any excess can be sold to PGE..
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:25 AM (VE6XX)
Damn, how much space does she power? My bill is under $250/month even in summer, and my whole townhome is electric (no gas, no nothing)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (dCxaZ)
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93 I know that I read on here when the bill was in the Senate that there were enough loopholes put into the bill, specifically one paragraph, that effectively made the bill useless to stopping green energy projects.
What happened to that?
Posted by: anon2020 at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (RqMDa)
I believe it’s the “started by 2027” with “started” meaning “in the planning stage”. At least, this is my limited understanding of the bill.
What happened to that?
Posted by: anon2020 at July 07, 2025 11:26 AM (RqMDa)
I believe it’s the “started by 2027” with “started” meaning “in the planning stage”. At least, this is my limited understanding of the bill.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (TJLr1)
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The problem with warnings to those Texas areas is sad and simple - when the flash flood evacuation warning was put out at 4 am, it was only available on radio or cell phones. There should be some early warning systems in at risk areas, but none have ever been built, residents/visitors are on their own.
When the Kerr County Judge (Chief County Executive) was asked what kind of local emergency warnings were given, he said "we don't have any." He added that they had looked into setting something up, but local voters thought it was too expensive.
When the Kerr County Judge (Chief County Executive) was asked what kind of local emergency warnings were given, he said "we don't have any." He added that they had looked into setting something up, but local voters thought it was too expensive.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:28 AM (uWKK8)
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Thx Buck.
Subsidized inefficient power is stupid. You might as well be burning your tax dollars for heat. And then some.
Subsidized inefficient power is stupid. You might as well be burning your tax dollars for heat. And then some.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 07, 2025 11:28 AM (JtH6i)
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Why, exactly, would the government have to bribe people to adopt things (solar panels, "efficient" appliances, etc.) that would supposedly save them money? Because it's mostly bullshit.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (XMwZJ)
Because they wanted people to adopt solar when it was at it's minimal efficiency. Because their "friends" made money off it. Because a government program, once started, is nigh on eternal.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (XMwZJ)
Because they wanted people to adopt solar when it was at it's minimal efficiency. Because their "friends" made money off it. Because a government program, once started, is nigh on eternal.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:28 AM (ExV1e)
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Damn, how much space does she power? My bill is under $250/month even in summer, and my whole townhome is electric (no gas, no nothing)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Believe it or not her home is only 1600 Sq ft.... We are in NorCal at the mercy of PGE which keeps raising rates to pay for the fires they cause...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Believe it or not her home is only 1600 Sq ft.... We are in NorCal at the mercy of PGE which keeps raising rates to pay for the fires they cause...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VE6XX)
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I can't think of a single windmill farm or solar farm that would be economically feasible without a subsidy.
In Land Man, they claimed that sometimes oil companies build them to power their drilling in remote locations because its cheaper than running power lines to the area.
In Land Man, they claimed that sometimes oil companies build them to power their drilling in remote locations because its cheaper than running power lines to the area.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (dfIr7)
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"I’ve paid my debt to society. I think I’ve overpaid.
Shall we ask the victim?"
yeah, it is a weird phrase. How does serving time (which costs "us" some $40k/yr) "pay a debt to society"?
Maybe there was some monetary penalty as well, but many criminals commit several crimes before they get caught and convicted of one crime.
They are not paying a debt, they are being punished. If this one guy "turned his life around", good for him.
Shall we ask the victim?"
yeah, it is a weird phrase. How does serving time (which costs "us" some $40k/yr) "pay a debt to society"?
Maybe there was some monetary penalty as well, but many criminals commit several crimes before they get caught and convicted of one crime.
They are not paying a debt, they are being punished. If this one guy "turned his life around", good for him.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (vbXSk)
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Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (0eaVi)
I don’t know if using Germans as an example is good because well…they’re German. Keeping unnecessary meticulous notes and over engineering is what they do.
I don’t know if using Germans as an example is good because well…they’re German. Keeping unnecessary meticulous notes and over engineering is what they do.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VofaG)
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99 He says he's making a political party, and he doesn't even have any coherent message for that party to support yet.
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The party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases and spending cuts. Nothing will be off the table for spending cuts, except for all the favored spending priorities of the people that need to be brought into the party to make it somewhat viable. Meaning in the end, the party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases. A winning formula!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (Dv3i1)
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Yeah, probably.
He's gonna get a great lesson in "cut theirs, not mine."
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The party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases and spending cuts. Nothing will be off the table for spending cuts, except for all the favored spending priorities of the people that need to be brought into the party to make it somewhat viable. Meaning in the end, the party will stand for deficit reduction through tax increases. A winning formula!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (Dv3i1)
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Yeah, probably.
He's gonna get a great lesson in "cut theirs, not mine."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:30 AM (GBKbO)
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I think most people with any awareness at all about what's been happening to this country for the last few years are going to be happy with what Trump and the BBB will do. Most are very tired of paying for wacko green horseshit.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 07, 2025 11:30 AM (g8Ew8)
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82 There has been remarkable advances in batteries over the years. I have some AAAs with a 10 year not in use shelf life. Back a ways, you could buy a couple D cells and they would already be sour off the shelf. Late 60s and 70s, the armed forces issued the BA30 D cells. Heavy use in a tropical climate like Vietnam would only give a couple hours. They were an improvement over earlier ones with a cork seal that leaked. A shit detail in Nam was busting up expended batteries with a sledge so they didn't get taken off base, wired up in series, and used to set off a 122 rocket. So they said.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 07, 2025 11:30 AM (gm9Sb)
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Wind and Solar Energy Projects: Tax credits are eliminated, with the exception that projects started within the next 11 months, or those completed by the end of 2027, are grandfathered in.
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All sorts of loopholes in the dates. Putting up a “coming soon solar stuff” sign in 2025 is enough to keep the graft going for decades. Ace had a post about this last week.
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All sorts of loopholes in the dates. Putting up a “coming soon solar stuff” sign in 2025 is enough to keep the graft going for decades. Ace had a post about this last week.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:30 AM (ImXfC)
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107 Damn, how much space does she power? My bill is under $250/month even in summer, and my whole townhome is electric (no gas, no nothing)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Believe it or not her home is only 1600 Sq ft.... We are in NorCal at the mercy of PGE which keeps raising rates to pay for the fires they cause...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VE6XX)
Ah, California...the land where everything is 3x as much just because...
PS - I have 2100 sq ft - 700 a level with a daylight basement's footage included (I get assessed on 1400 b/c they don't count the basement for some weird reason, but they do that for the whole community, so I'm not complaining)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Believe it or not her home is only 1600 Sq ft.... We are in NorCal at the mercy of PGE which keeps raising rates to pay for the fires they cause...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VE6XX)
Ah, California...the land where everything is 3x as much just because...
PS - I have 2100 sq ft - 700 a level with a daylight basement's footage included (I get assessed on 1400 b/c they don't count the basement for some weird reason, but they do that for the whole community, so I'm not complaining)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:30 AM (tOcjL)
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Where the hell do you live that has $500-$700 per month electricity bills? I live in north TX, and my highest electricity bill was under $350 in July '24. Averages under $150.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (XMwZJ)
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Very nice story, Buck. Really like the way you write. It just goes to show you there is much to learn every day of our lives, sometimes from the most unlikely of teachers.
Posted by: IrishEi at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (3ImbR)
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His plan just throws control to the Dem's who will in turn censor him, increase the already crazy spending, and flood the country with illegal immigration.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (G0vdT)
On farcebook this morning I have seen libs (uncle) speculating that he is trying to pull from the left. I pointed out that both sides are saying the same damn thing.
Between that and retards blaming Trump and Doge specifically for Texas, there has been a lot of stupidity.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:22 AM (G0vdT)
On farcebook this morning I have seen libs (uncle) speculating that he is trying to pull from the left. I pointed out that both sides are saying the same damn thing.
Between that and retards blaming Trump and Doge specifically for Texas, there has been a lot of stupidity.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (bss/y)
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I can (and need to) buy a generator for a fraction of the cost of those batteries.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (TJLr1)
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Yeah, during the 2020 nightmare PsyOps we seriously got into prepping.
We bought a couple portable generators (and a Bluetti portable power station / battery backup with solar panels) and had an electrician install a transfer switch at our breaker box to power our home by generator if necessary.
Identified all the appliances we'd need in an emergency and their KWHs to determine the generator capacity necessary.
I know the local hardware stores sell these big Generac generators -- but they're REALLY expensive.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM (TJLr1)
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Yeah, during the 2020 nightmare PsyOps we seriously got into prepping.
We bought a couple portable generators (and a Bluetti portable power station / battery backup with solar panels) and had an electrician install a transfer switch at our breaker box to power our home by generator if necessary.
Identified all the appliances we'd need in an emergency and their KWHs to determine the generator capacity necessary.
I know the local hardware stores sell these big Generac generators -- but they're REALLY expensive.
Posted by: ShainS -- Flooding and Death are What Happens when you Cut Government! at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Ae4dV)
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So, if cold does bad things for range, does heat do the opposite? Especially when you have the AC cranked?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I did some studies for fleets across North America, and we found that electric vehicles don't perform well in temperatures below about 50f or above 85f. There are abandoned fleets in both Phoenix and Minneapolis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I did some studies for fleets across North America, and we found that electric vehicles don't perform well in temperatures below about 50f or above 85f. There are abandoned fleets in both Phoenix and Minneapolis.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Vfq+S)
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116 Where the hell do you live that has $500-$700 per month electricity bills? I live in north TX, and my highest electricity bill was under $350 in July '24. Averages under $150.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (XMwZJ)
NOr Cal
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (XMwZJ)
NOr Cal
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:32 AM (VE6XX)
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They're moderates.
Afghan man tries to marry six-year-old girl (his third wife), but Taliban government says he must wait till she's nine
Afghan man tries to marry six-year-old girl (his third wife), but Taliban government says he must wait till she's nine
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 07, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)
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Which is why Elon is going berserk.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 07, 2025 11:13 AM (xTIDn)
We don't have to make Elon out to be a selfish oaf here.
I honestly believe he's concerned about the fact that the US is going to collapse under the weight of the MASSIVE debt out rulers have placed us under as they steal from my children and grandchildren.
He's disheartened that all his work (that he sacrificed a LOT for) seems to be for naught because of the feckless politicians in congress.
He thinks Trump is in on it for compromising with congress. He hasn't been involved in politics and doesn't understand how long a fight this is going to be. He's a neophyte like Trump was in 2016.
HOPEFULLY, he'll wake up to reality. Sadly a lot of "LIBERTARIAN!!!" types never do.
He's all in favor of MAGA, so long as he can keep his subsidies, and can import as many H1-B workers as he wants.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 07, 2025 11:13 AM (xTIDn)
We don't have to make Elon out to be a selfish oaf here.
I honestly believe he's concerned about the fact that the US is going to collapse under the weight of the MASSIVE debt out rulers have placed us under as they steal from my children and grandchildren.
He's disheartened that all his work (that he sacrificed a LOT for) seems to be for naught because of the feckless politicians in congress.
He thinks Trump is in on it for compromising with congress. He hasn't been involved in politics and doesn't understand how long a fight this is going to be. He's a neophyte like Trump was in 2016.
HOPEFULLY, he'll wake up to reality. Sadly a lot of "LIBERTARIAN!!!" types never do.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (N1DT3)
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Elon doesn't seem to have any idea what he's doing.
This is the problem with trying to analyze what Elon is doing. He's manic depressive and a bit mad, so you never know precisely what he has in mind. HE probably doesn't always know. Like Trump he's kid of a seat of his pants guy who goes with instinct and whim and makes it work out, and it usually does.
But as others have pointed out, from the day he showed up on camera with a black eye claiming his kid did it (very plausible) he's been... different. Something happened that has caused a shift in his attitude.
At first I chalked it up to being blackpilled by frustration with the failure of things to work the way he thought they would. Now I'm not so sure.
I guess we will see. I still think the American Party is going to morph into a PAC of sorts.
This is the problem with trying to analyze what Elon is doing. He's manic depressive and a bit mad, so you never know precisely what he has in mind. HE probably doesn't always know. Like Trump he's kid of a seat of his pants guy who goes with instinct and whim and makes it work out, and it usually does.
But as others have pointed out, from the day he showed up on camera with a black eye claiming his kid did it (very plausible) he's been... different. Something happened that has caused a shift in his attitude.
At first I chalked it up to being blackpilled by frustration with the failure of things to work the way he thought they would. Now I'm not so sure.
I guess we will see. I still think the American Party is going to morph into a PAC of sorts.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (dfIr7)
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China has it a lot worse than we do. I like this clip, especially the bit starting at about 2:45. New Chinese college grads are comparing themselves to the terra cotta army, and the comparison is spot on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UP1Iab5II8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UP1Iab5II8
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)
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In Land Man, they claimed that sometimes oil companies build them to power their drilling in remote locations because its cheaper than running power lines to the area.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (dfIr7)
Running a powerline over quite a few miles of open territory would be phenomenally expensive. The standard solution has been large diesel generators, about the size of those that power diesel-electric locomotives.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (dfIr7)
Running a powerline over quite a few miles of open territory would be phenomenally expensive. The standard solution has been large diesel generators, about the size of those that power diesel-electric locomotives.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (uWKK8)
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Remember Peter Thiel and The Drudge Report? With Trump, then not with Trump, then back with Trump.
New York Times,
Opinion
interesting times
Peter Thiel and the Antichrist
The original tech right power player on A.I., Mars and immortality. June 26, 2025, Hosted by Ross Douthat
Mr. Douthat is an Opinion columnist and the host of the “Interesting Times” podcast.
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It just depends.
New York Times,
Opinion
interesting times
Peter Thiel and the Antichrist
The original tech right power player on A.I., Mars and immortality. June 26, 2025, Hosted by Ross Douthat
Mr. Douthat is an Opinion columnist and the host of the “Interesting Times” podcast.
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It just depends.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (NFX2v)
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107 Damn, how much space does she power? My bill is under $250/month even in summer, and my whole townhome is electric (no gas, no nothing)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Believe it or not her home is only 1600 Sq ft.... We are in NorCal at the mercy of PGE which keeps raising rates to pay for the fires they cause...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VE6XX)
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The "Move to California" ads practically write themselves, amirite?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Believe it or not her home is only 1600 Sq ft.... We are in NorCal at the mercy of PGE which keeps raising rates to pay for the fires they cause...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VE6XX)
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The "Move to California" ads practically write themselves, amirite?
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (36PRH)
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20 years ago I lived in an old, house with old windows. And in a very hot and humid climate. The a/c was on pretty much all day long. Electricity was $500/mo. And that was 20 years ago. Today I can see it being $1000 adjusted for inflation.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (ImXfC)
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I guess this so-called list that Epstein purportedly had boils down to whether it was a "client" list of people he did business with or a "blackmail" list of people he had kompromat on. If such a document exists.
That muddies the waters a bit. But you'd think after all this time the Justice Dept would know the difference. And presuming they do, the release of information, or lack thereof, makes me lean one way.
That muddies the waters a bit. But you'd think after all this time the Justice Dept would know the difference. And presuming they do, the release of information, or lack thereof, makes me lean one way.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (Q4IgG)
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NorCal--of course.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (XMwZJ)
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happy to see green energy subsidies killed. it works in isolated situations (like a home that gets a lot of sun). I don't know who can be a bridge to Elon, but someone needs to be. He isn't ticked off about the subsidies being killed. he is ticked off about the deficit.
Tyler Cowen had a good analysis. Trump went all in and pushed all his chips to the center of the table on the BBB. He is betting on massive GDP growth caused by private business investment (which returns 9-11% usually) and implementation of AI - which could juice returns even higher. Growth now, plus cuts later and boom.
BUT, Republicans need to elect true fiscal conservatives (not RINOs) and hold the Senate and House. Otherwise, goodbye.
Tyler Cowen had a good analysis. Trump went all in and pushed all his chips to the center of the table on the BBB. He is betting on massive GDP growth caused by private business investment (which returns 9-11% usually) and implementation of AI - which could juice returns even higher. Growth now, plus cuts later and boom.
BUT, Republicans need to elect true fiscal conservatives (not RINOs) and hold the Senate and House. Otherwise, goodbye.
Posted by: Jeff Carter (@pointsnfigures1) at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (8qMs2)
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>>"Tax credits are eliminated, with the exception that projects started within the next 11 months, or those completed by the end of 2027, are grandfathered in."
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"Grandfathered"
Our poor, tortured English language. Well, get ready for the next eleven month super all-you-can-eat hog trough.
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"Grandfathered"
Our poor, tortured English language. Well, get ready for the next eleven month super all-you-can-eat hog trough.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (Dxdzg)
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I did some studies for fleets across North America, and we found that electric vehicles don't perform well in temperatures below about 50f or above 85f. There are abandoned fleets in both Phoenix and Minneapolis.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Vfq+S)
Makes sense. So, electric cars really only work well in San Francisco.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Vfq+S)
Makes sense. So, electric cars really only work well in San Francisco.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (bss/y)
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>>Electric Vehicles: The $7,500 per unit federal tax credit for the purchase of new EVs is eliminated effective 9/30/2025 – less than three months! The $4,000 federal incentive for buying a used EV is also killed off.
With this going away, the Slate truck us also dead in the water.
They were banking on the credit taking their ridiculous base truck base price from 27k to 20k.
And even at 20k that truck is silly.
Also, finally seen the new 4Runner in the wild, it is one ugly truck with an unnecessarily fat ass.
It's not Aztek ugly, but it's ugly.
With this going away, the Slate truck us also dead in the water.
They were banking on the credit taking their ridiculous base truck base price from 27k to 20k.
And even at 20k that truck is silly.
Also, finally seen the new 4Runner in the wild, it is one ugly truck with an unnecessarily fat ass.
It's not Aztek ugly, but it's ugly.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (XV/Pl)
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I see the Dems are calling Alligator Alcatraz Alligator Auschwitz... Somehow I think they need to look at history regarding Auschwitz
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (VE6XX)
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"I paid my debt to society" is generally a red flag that the person is unrepentant and still a criminal. Might not be every single solitary case but it's big Alarm Bell Phrase, sorry.
Like a company that advertises they are "honest". Run a mile.
Like a company that advertises they are "honest". Run a mile.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (VPwHp)
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"I believe it’s the “started by 2027” with “started” meaning “in the planning stage”. At least, this is my limited understanding of the bill.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (TJLr1)"
Correct and this guy went on a long detailed rant explaining how that language could be used to do almost anything you wanted with green energy. Why is Buck so happy with the bill?
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (TJLr1)"
Correct and this guy went on a long detailed rant explaining how that language could be used to do almost anything you wanted with green energy. Why is Buck so happy with the bill?
Posted by: anon2020 at July 07, 2025 11:35 AM (RqMDa)
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Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (VE6XX)
I called this last week. Hell they might have actually got it from me. It's a big mistake but they are a party of big mistakes.
I called this last week. Hell they might have actually got it from me. It's a big mistake but they are a party of big mistakes.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 11:35 AM (VPwHp)
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We have way too many CEOs who bought into this crap.
They should suffer for their stupidity, but they'll be rewarded, instead.
Generally they get rewarded based on short term results so of course they all jumped on the "free money from the government now" bandwagon
They should suffer for their stupidity, but they'll be rewarded, instead.
Generally they get rewarded based on short term results so of course they all jumped on the "free money from the government now" bandwagon
Posted by: 18-1 at July 07, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)
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129 20 years ago I lived in an old, house with old windows. And in a very hot and humid climate. The a/c was on pretty much all day long. Electricity was $500/mo. And that was 20 years ago. Today I can see it being $1000 adjusted for inflation.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (ImXfC)
That's when you replace the windows...that was the 1st project I did after buying this house (when I could afford it)...
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (ImXfC)
That's when you replace the windows...that was the 1st project I did after buying this house (when I could afford it)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:35 AM (tOcjL)
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A family moved into our neighborhood with their four daughters. The two youngest are very sweet and thoughtful. They are the same age as the girls at Camp Mystic in Texas. What a horrific loss for the families.
Posted by: Oglebay at July 07, 2025 11:36 AM (MMp6W)
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In Land Man, they claimed that sometimes oil companies build them to power their drilling in remote locations because its cheaper than running power lines to the area.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
There are probably a few of those, but most of the west Texas windmills are supplying power to Austin and Dallas, where customers can pay a premium to have their power partly supplied by wind. The wells themselves are drilled by diesel engines and are fractured by diesel or natural gas pumps.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
There are probably a few of those, but most of the west Texas windmills are supplying power to Austin and Dallas, where customers can pay a premium to have their power partly supplied by wind. The wells themselves are drilled by diesel engines and are fractured by diesel or natural gas pumps.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:36 AM (Vfq+S)
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I don’t know if using Germans as an example is good because well…they’re German. Keeping unnecessary meticulous notes and over engineering is what they do.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VofaG)
True, I guess. But meticulous records caught plenty of smaller fish that might have melted away into society without the records of their deeds. It works the same for blackmailers. Gotta keep track of the kinks.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:29 AM (VofaG)
True, I guess. But meticulous records caught plenty of smaller fish that might have melted away into society without the records of their deeds. It works the same for blackmailers. Gotta keep track of the kinks.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 07, 2025 11:36 AM (0eaVi)
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134 I did some studies for fleets across North America, and we found that electric vehicles don't perform well in temperatures below about 50f or above 85f. There are abandoned fleets in both Phoenix and Minneapolis.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Vfq+S)
Makes sense. So, electric cars really only work well in San Francisco.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (bss/y)
Honolulu, too...
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (Vfq+S)
Makes sense. So, electric cars really only work well in San Francisco.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (bss/y)
Honolulu, too...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:36 AM (tOcjL)
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125 China has it a lot worse than we do. I like this clip, especially the bit starting at about 2:45. New Chinese college grads are comparing themselves to the terra cotta army, and the comparison is spot on."
speaking of the terra cotta army: best Amazon Review Ever.
https://tinyurl.com/y92r3k2t
speaking of the terra cotta army: best Amazon Review Ever.
https://tinyurl.com/y92r3k2t
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:36 AM (uWKK8)
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@130
>>That muddies the waters a bit.
Again, the whole thing is preposterous, as I noted...
I think what's happened in the case of Epstein is that Pam, Kash, and Bongino told their "subordinates" to bring them everything, and their subordinates brought them nothing, they asked where is the stuff, and their "subordinates" told them, there is no stuff.
So a game of chicken ensued and Pam, Kash and Bongino chickened out.
And that's basically it.
Now, I want Maxwell let out of prison because apparently the entire Epstein operation was a gigantic Seinfeld gag.
I also find it grimly amusing the Epstein's career began an ended at the hands of William Barr and his father.
>>That muddies the waters a bit.
Again, the whole thing is preposterous, as I noted...
I think what's happened in the case of Epstein is that Pam, Kash, and Bongino told their "subordinates" to bring them everything, and their subordinates brought them nothing, they asked where is the stuff, and their "subordinates" told them, there is no stuff.
So a game of chicken ensued and Pam, Kash and Bongino chickened out.
And that's basically it.
Now, I want Maxwell let out of prison because apparently the entire Epstein operation was a gigantic Seinfeld gag.
I also find it grimly amusing the Epstein's career began an ended at the hands of William Barr and his father.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (XV/Pl)
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I guess this so-called list that Epstein purportedly had boils down to whether it was a "client" list of people he did business with or a "blackmail" list of people he had kompromat on. If such a document exists.
Right, and that is why I think Axios is playing games with words here. I think when Bondi said she had a client list on her desk, she meant "a list of clients I do business with" not "A list of people I am blackmailing"
Right, and that is why I think Axios is playing games with words here. I think when Bondi said she had a client list on her desk, she meant "a list of clients I do business with" not "A list of people I am blackmailing"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (dfIr7)
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"Catching a hardhead always recalls the gentle ex-convict whose path in life briefly intersected with mine one morning on a South Texas pier."
Yeah that's not gay or anything.
Yeah that's not gay or anything.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (WqLmq)
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My electricity bills have stayed remarkably stable for last two decades. Just looked at bills from 2008; highest was $400 in August 2008. So, on average, my bills are down! In north TX.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (XMwZJ)
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Our poor, tortured English language. Well, get ready for the next eleven month super all-you-can-eat hog trough.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (Dxdzg)
Yep. You just need 5% of the project to be funded this year and the credits last forever. Not even 5% bout, just funded. We will be handing out billions in “green” tax credits for the next 50 years.
Because the gop is dogshit and incapable of ever cutting any spending.
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 07, 2025 11:34 AM (Dxdzg)
Yep. You just need 5% of the project to be funded this year and the credits last forever. Not even 5% bout, just funded. We will be handing out billions in “green” tax credits for the next 50 years.
Because the gop is dogshit and incapable of ever cutting any spending.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (ImXfC)
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Trump went all in and pushed all his chips to the center of the table on the BBB.
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This is why he is pushing so hard for the fed to lower rates. Tax certainty and low rates usually lead to growth. Its all about the mid-terms now. If he can win the mid-terms, he will be set up very well.
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This is why he is pushing so hard for the fed to lower rates. Tax certainty and low rates usually lead to growth. Its all about the mid-terms now. If he can win the mid-terms, he will be set up very well.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (sX1BW)
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I am not a fan of Musk's Judean Peoples Front party, but I have to smirk a bit that all the people who always professed to hate the current Uniparty are clutching pearls about it, while its early adapters like Mike Pence come from the Uniparty.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (tvrW2)
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I honestly believe he's concerned about the fact that the US is going to collapse under the weight of the MASSIVE debt out rulers have placed us under as they steal from my children and grandchildren.
He's disheartened that all his work (that he sacrificed a LOT for) seems to be for naught because of the feckless politicians in congress.
Agreed. He's not a typical power mad politician. Everything he does is in service to a larger goal; in this case saving America from itself.
He's disheartened that all his work (that he sacrificed a LOT for) seems to be for naught because of the feckless politicians in congress.
Agreed. He's not a typical power mad politician. Everything he does is in service to a larger goal; in this case saving America from itself.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (Riz8t)
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136 Under the heading of "stuff you won't see but happened" would be a detainee at Alligator Disney World saying he was living better there than in his home shithole.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (gm9Sb)
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Remember when Elon said DOGE was going to look into Congressional critters compensations and how fast that went away.
Elon was the trade for PDT being enabled to pass any of the legislation he wants
Elon was the trade for PDT being enabled to pass any of the legislation he wants
Posted by: Ben Had at July 07, 2025 11:38 AM (HFcKg)
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149 "Catching a hardhead always recalls the gentle ex-convict whose path in life briefly intersected with mine one morning on a South Texas pier."
Yeah that's not gay or anything.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (WqLmq)
Would have been more gay if they had met in the bathroom.
Yeah that's not gay or anything.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (WqLmq)
Would have been more gay if they had met in the bathroom.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:38 AM (bss/y)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:38 AM (ImXfC)
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116 Where the hell do you live that has $500-$700 per month electricity bills? I live in north TX, and my highest electricity bill was under $350 in July '24. Averages under $150.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (XMwZJ)
NOr Cal
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I knew CA was bad...but Lord have mercy! I can't believe there is any middle class left in that state.
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:31 AM (XMwZJ)
NOr Cal
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I knew CA was bad...but Lord have mercy! I can't believe there is any middle class left in that state.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 07, 2025 11:38 AM (qBdHI)
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Don't worry, commies. The EU will save the erf from pollution *and* Poo Tin!!!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 11:38 AM (ULPxl)
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Between gas and electric I am at around $200/mo year round. Heat is gas, a/c is electric.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:40 AM (ImXfC)
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Agreed. He's not a typical power mad politician. Everything he does is in service to a larger goal; in this case saving America from itself.
That's not his goal. His goal is to be god King of Mars. To do that, he needs a stable and prosperous America.
That's not his goal. His goal is to be god King of Mars. To do that, he needs a stable and prosperous America.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:40 AM (dfIr7)
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156 Remember when Elon said DOGE was going to look into Congressional critters compensations and how fast that went away.
Elon was the trade for PDT being enabled to pass any of the legislation he wants
Posted by: Ben Had at July 07, 2025 11:38 AM (HFcKg)
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{scratches chin} Hmmm....Interesting theory.
Elon was the trade for PDT being enabled to pass any of the legislation he wants
Posted by: Ben Had at July 07, 2025 11:38 AM (HFcKg)
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{scratches chin} Hmmm....Interesting theory.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:40 AM (G0vdT)
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I see when Trump was heading to the plane "reporters" were shouting whether he thought his "cut" to FEMA and the NWS caused the amount of deaths in Texas.. He just walked on....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:40 AM (VE6XX)
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You keep 17 year old utility bills?
Yes. For just such occasions!
Yes. For just such occasions!
Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (XMwZJ)
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164 I see when Trump was heading to the plane "reporters" were shouting whether he thought his "cut" to FEMA and the NWS caused the amount of deaths in Texas.. He just walked on....
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:40 AM (VE6XX)
They want this one so bad they can taste it.
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:40 AM (VE6XX)
They want this one so bad they can taste it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (bss/y)
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123 He thinks Trump is in on it for compromising with congress. He hasn't been involved in politics and doesn't understand how long a fight this is going to be. He's a neophyte like Trump was in 2016.
HOPEFULLY, he'll wake up to reality. Sadly a lot of "LIBERTARIAN!!!" types never do.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (N1DT3)
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A real libertarian party whose primary concern was the debt and government overreach instead of weed, age of consent, and open borders, backed by Musk money, could be a good thing in American politics.
Something designed to push the GOP to the right because if they don't, well, there's another option out there.
There are states where the left has these kinds of parties, like New York and it's Worker's Party.
However, if Musk is attracting Mark Cuban, his America Party is going to be anything but that.
HOPEFULLY, he'll wake up to reality. Sadly a lot of "LIBERTARIAN!!!" types never do.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (N1DT3)
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A real libertarian party whose primary concern was the debt and government overreach instead of weed, age of consent, and open borders, backed by Musk money, could be a good thing in American politics.
Something designed to push the GOP to the right because if they don't, well, there's another option out there.
There are states where the left has these kinds of parties, like New York and it's Worker's Party.
However, if Musk is attracting Mark Cuban, his America Party is going to be anything but that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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speaking of the terra cotta army: best Amazon Review Ever.
https://tinyurl.com/y92r3k2t
Dang, that is funny.
https://tinyurl.com/y92r3k2t
Dang, that is funny.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (Riz8t)
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a detainee at Alligator Disney World saying he was living better there than in his home shithole.
I wouldn't want to live in a chain link box in a Florida tent, but yeah its probably better than a shack in Mexico City. I laugh out loud, for real, when I read some Democrat whining about how hot and humid it is there. Dude you do realize where most of these people come from, right?
I wouldn't want to live in a chain link box in a Florida tent, but yeah its probably better than a shack in Mexico City. I laugh out loud, for real, when I read some Democrat whining about how hot and humid it is there. Dude you do realize where most of these people come from, right?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (dfIr7)
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152 Trump went all in and pushed all his chips to the center of the table on the BBB.
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This is why he is pushing so hard for the fed to lower rates. Tax certainty and low rates usually lead to growth. Its all about the mid-terms now. If he can win the mid-terms, he will be set up very well.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (sX1BW)
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Musk is so concerned about the debt, but he's never, not once, tweeted by Jerome Powell keeping rates up.
He's never tweeted about Powell at all.
I think Musk doesn't understand this fight in the least.
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This is why he is pushing so hard for the fed to lower rates. Tax certainty and low rates usually lead to growth. Its all about the mid-terms now. If he can win the mid-terms, he will be set up very well.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (sX1BW)
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Musk is so concerned about the debt, but he's never, not once, tweeted by Jerome Powell keeping rates up.
He's never tweeted about Powell at all.
I think Musk doesn't understand this fight in the least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
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I laugh out loud, for real, when I read some Democrat whining about how hot and humid it is there. Dude you do realize where most of these people come from, right?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (dfIr7)
Plus they have air conditioning
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (dfIr7)
Plus they have air conditioning
Posted by: It's me donna at July 07, 2025 11:43 AM (VE6XX)
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Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:33 AM (N1DT3)
He is selfish because he’s taking his ball and going home. And he’s still the richest man in the world so I’m not so much into giving him credit for ‘sacrificing’ .
Why doesn’t he advocate for proven nuclear energy instead of the costly non nuke green energy ( nuke is green imo) .
He is selfish because he’s taking his ball and going home. And he’s still the richest man in the world so I’m not so much into giving him credit for ‘sacrificing’ .
Why doesn’t he advocate for proven nuclear energy instead of the costly non nuke green energy ( nuke is green imo) .
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:43 AM (VofaG)
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Agreed. He's not a typical power mad politician. Everything he does is in service to a larger goal; in this case saving America from itself.
That's not his goal. His goal is to be god King of Mars. To do that, he needs a stable and prosperous America.
He's recapitulating Ozymandias? Who will be there to see the trunkless legs?
That's not his goal. His goal is to be god King of Mars. To do that, he needs a stable and prosperous America.
He's recapitulating Ozymandias? Who will be there to see the trunkless legs?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:43 AM (Riz8t)
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You keep 17 year old utility bills?
When my mom died, we found utility bills and other documents going back to the sixties.
However, if Musk is attracting Mark Cuban, his America Party is going to be anything but that.
He keeps yapping about a "centrist" party by which I think he means "lower taxes and social liberalism"
When my mom died, we found utility bills and other documents going back to the sixties.
However, if Musk is attracting Mark Cuban, his America Party is going to be anything but that.
He keeps yapping about a "centrist" party by which I think he means "lower taxes and social liberalism"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (dfIr7)
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@148
>>Right, and that is why I think Axios is playing games with words here. I think when Bondi said she had a client list on her desk, she meant "a list of clients I do business with" not "A list of people I am blackmailing"
No, Bondi, Kash and Bongino were on record before they took their positions and while in their positions about releasing the Epstein files and getting to the bottom of the Op.
Apparently, after seeing all of the information, the Epstein Operation was a Seinfeld episode, a whole lot of nothing.
Again, Ghislane Maxwell needs to be released from prison as apparently, per the FBI/DOJ, she and Epstein, had no clients, were not trafficking children for the purposes of prostetutution and weren't blackmailing anyone.
>>Right, and that is why I think Axios is playing games with words here. I think when Bondi said she had a client list on her desk, she meant "a list of clients I do business with" not "A list of people I am blackmailing"
No, Bondi, Kash and Bongino were on record before they took their positions and while in their positions about releasing the Epstein files and getting to the bottom of the Op.
Apparently, after seeing all of the information, the Epstein Operation was a Seinfeld episode, a whole lot of nothing.
Again, Ghislane Maxwell needs to be released from prison as apparently, per the FBI/DOJ, she and Epstein, had no clients, were not trafficking children for the purposes of prostetutution and weren't blackmailing anyone.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (XV/Pl)
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The problem with warnings to those Texas areas is sad and simple - when the flash flood evacuation warning was put out at 4 am, it was only available on radio or cell phones. There should be some early warning systems in at risk areas, but none have ever been built, residents/visitors are on their own.
When the Kerr County Judge (Chief County Executive) was asked what kind of local emergency warnings were given, he said "we don't have any." He added that they had looked into setting something up, but local voters thought it was too expensive.
Posted by: Tom Servo
City people don't understand country distances.
Kerr County is 1,100 square miles with a density of 48 people per square mile. (52,59
Take out the largest city, Kerrvile @ 22.35 square miles, and your density drops exponentially. (24,27
That's a lot of land to cover with warning sirens and very few people to pay for it.
When the Kerr County Judge (Chief County Executive) was asked what kind of local emergency warnings were given, he said "we don't have any." He added that they had looked into setting something up, but local voters thought it was too expensive.
Posted by: Tom Servo
City people don't understand country distances.
Kerr County is 1,100 square miles with a density of 48 people per square mile. (52,59
Take out the largest city, Kerrvile @ 22.35 square miles, and your density drops exponentially. (24,27
That's a lot of land to cover with warning sirens and very few people to pay for it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (erzCX)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
This thing will be forgotten faster than a fart in a wind storm. Musk is too mercurial, the Left will jump on it quick pro or con, Trump will brand the fucker into oblivion, no one will buy it.
This is Evan McMullin, The Party.
This thing will be forgotten faster than a fart in a wind storm. Musk is too mercurial, the Left will jump on it quick pro or con, Trump will brand the fucker into oblivion, no one will buy it.
This is Evan McMullin, The Party.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (VPwHp)
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Dude you do realize where most of these people come from, right?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (dfIr7)
No, no they don't. For most of them they cannot even conceive of extremes beyond what they are used to.
I remember reading an article in the 2000s where they were talking about the insane heat in Iraq- with high humidity. Yeah, no thanks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (dfIr7)
No, no they don't. For most of them they cannot even conceive of extremes beyond what they are used to.
I remember reading an article in the 2000s where they were talking about the insane heat in Iraq- with high humidity. Yeah, no thanks.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (bss/y)
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Lots of people said they don’t trust Elon. I pushed back on that saying he’s one of us rust him.
I was bigly wrong. And y’all were yuugely right.
I was bigly wrong. And y’all were yuugely right.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (ImXfC)
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Besides, Florida is no where near as bad as Louisiana, Mississippi or even parts of East Texas.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:45 AM (bss/y)
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OT, *another* klantifag attack on ICE, in McAllen TX:
JUST IN: Texas Man Killed After Ambushing Border Patrol Agents with Rifle and Tactical Gear
https://shorturl.at/FifM6
Gateway Pundit
JUST IN: Texas Man Killed After Ambushing Border Patrol Agents with Rifle and Tactical Gear
https://shorturl.at/FifM6
Gateway Pundit
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 07, 2025 11:45 AM (ULPxl)
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The elimination of the EV and Green Energy credits is what really set Musk off.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (VofaG)
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No. And Musk said so a very long time ago.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (VofaG)
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No. And Musk said so a very long time ago.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 07, 2025 11:45 AM (ZvVgj)
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However, if Musk is attracting Mark Cuban, his America Party is going to be anything but that.
He keeps yapping about a "centrist" party by which I think he means "lower taxes and social liberalism"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Centrist is still to the left of Republican and MAGA parties.
He keeps yapping about a "centrist" party by which I think he means "lower taxes and social liberalism"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Centrist is still to the left of Republican and MAGA parties.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:45 AM (erzCX)
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174 However, if Musk is attracting Mark Cuban, his America Party is going to be anything but that.
He keeps yapping about a "centrist" party by which I think he means "lower taxes and social liberalism"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (dfIr7)
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Any Democrat who's been carrying water for the Democrat Party over the past few years is nothing like he thinks a centrist is.
He thinks a centrist is an Obama Democrat which is...whatever. I'm pretty sure that's his definition.
These people were pushing for government funded transgender surgeries for illegal immigrant criminals in our jails.
He keeps yapping about a "centrist" party by which I think he means "lower taxes and social liberalism"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (dfIr7)
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Any Democrat who's been carrying water for the Democrat Party over the past few years is nothing like he thinks a centrist is.
He thinks a centrist is an Obama Democrat which is...whatever. I'm pretty sure that's his definition.
These people were pushing for government funded transgender surgeries for illegal immigrant criminals in our jails.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:46 AM (GBKbO)
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OT, *another* klantifag attack on ICE, in McAllen TX:
JUST IN: Texas Man Killed After Ambushing Border Patrol Agents with Rifle and Tactical Gear
https://shorturl.at/FifM6
Gateway Pundit
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
So, anyway...
JUST IN: Texas Man Killed After Ambushing Border Patrol Agents with Rifle and Tactical Gear
https://shorturl.at/FifM6
Gateway Pundit
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
So, anyway...
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:46 AM (erzCX)
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I am not a fan of Musk's Judean Peoples Front party, but I have to smirk a bit that all the people who always professed to hate the current Uniparty are clutching pearls about it, while its early adapters like Mike Pence come from the Uniparty.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (tvrW2)
Agree. People bitch and moan and whine and cry about only having the Uniparty to vote for and as soon as a 3rd Party drops on the scene they poo poo it and say it will never work and how blah blah blah.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (tvrW2)
Agree. People bitch and moan and whine and cry about only having the Uniparty to vote for and as soon as a 3rd Party drops on the scene they poo poo it and say it will never work and how blah blah blah.
Posted by: Zombie Theodore Roosevelt at July 07, 2025 11:46 AM (lX1hk)
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Ah, yes, the DOGE cuts.
The Hill, House GOP approves first batch of DOGE cuts
06/12/25
In part, "House Republicans voted on Thursday to claw back billions of dollars in federal funding for public broadcasting and foreign aid, locking in the first set of slashes made by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
The chamber approved the legislation — known as a rescissions package — in a 214-212 vote, greenlighting $9.4 billion in cuts to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), which DOGE went after earlier this year, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funnels dollars to NPR and PBS.
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) hailed the package as a large step forward in the GOP’s quest to bringing down the $36 trillion — and growing — deficit."
And, that may be it. Pitiful.
The Hill, House GOP approves first batch of DOGE cuts
06/12/25
In part, "House Republicans voted on Thursday to claw back billions of dollars in federal funding for public broadcasting and foreign aid, locking in the first set of slashes made by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
The chamber approved the legislation — known as a rescissions package — in a 214-212 vote, greenlighting $9.4 billion in cuts to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), which DOGE went after earlier this year, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funnels dollars to NPR and PBS.
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) hailed the package as a large step forward in the GOP’s quest to bringing down the $36 trillion — and growing — deficit."
And, that may be it. Pitiful.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 11:47 AM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:47 AM (bss/y)
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That's a lot of land to cover with warning sirens and very few people to pay for it.
Posted by: rickb223
Not only is it sparsely populated, but the terrain is so rolling, that a siren could go off half a mile away and you probably would not hear it.
Posted by: rickb223
Not only is it sparsely populated, but the terrain is so rolling, that a siren could go off half a mile away and you probably would not hear it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:47 AM (Vfq+S)
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I’m starting to think this new party may actually help us. Every notable person supporting it is a Democrat.
I know their goal is to split the GOP. But could it backfire? The average LIV left leaning voter is going to see Mark Cuban and think oh maybe I’m interested in this.
I know their goal is to split the GOP. But could it backfire? The average LIV left leaning voter is going to see Mark Cuban and think oh maybe I’m interested in this.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:47 AM (ImXfC)
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Trump already made a third party but he did it the smart way. By retooling one of the existing ones.
There is no room for an "America" party. Trump cornered the market on that one. They need a different hook and freedom isn't it. Trump cornered that too. Less government? Also Trump.
What does that leave? *Better and smarter* government? That's the Democrat Line. Marijuana? Also taken. They are stuck with nothing and their "hook" is going to be garbage.
There is no room for an "America" party. Trump cornered the market on that one. They need a different hook and freedom isn't it. Trump cornered that too. Less government? Also Trump.
What does that leave? *Better and smarter* government? That's the Democrat Line. Marijuana? Also taken. They are stuck with nothing and their "hook" is going to be garbage.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 11:48 AM (VPwHp)
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"By the way, I am actually a socialist. Just not the kind that shifts resources from most productive to least productive, pretending to do good, while actually causing harm. True socialism seeks greatest good for all."
Elon from 2018 and I have doubts that this has changed. He's rich so he can afford to be a socialist and he'll get the perks of it.
Elon from 2018 and I have doubts that this has changed. He's rich so he can afford to be a socialist and he'll get the perks of it.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 11:48 AM (svLOV)
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177 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
This thing will be forgotten faster than a fart in a wind storm. Musk is too mercurial, the Left will jump on it quick pro or con, Trump will brand the fucker into oblivion, no one will buy it.
This is Evan McMullin, The Party.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (VPwHp)
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I think he hires some people to run the primary operation over the next year or so.
But he's going to attract shit or unexperienced talent who have no idea what they're doing because the real power players are heading towards Trump's $1 billion + warchest in an established political party in the majority (this will also attract a lot of shit, to be fair).
When Musk goes to stump for Massie and gets a crowd of dozens followed by Trump showing up and getting a crowd of dozens of...thousands, it should be eye-opening.
This thing will be forgotten faster than a fart in a wind storm. Musk is too mercurial, the Left will jump on it quick pro or con, Trump will brand the fucker into oblivion, no one will buy it.
This is Evan McMullin, The Party.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (VPwHp)
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I think he hires some people to run the primary operation over the next year or so.
But he's going to attract shit or unexperienced talent who have no idea what they're doing because the real power players are heading towards Trump's $1 billion + warchest in an established political party in the majority (this will also attract a lot of shit, to be fair).
When Musk goes to stump for Massie and gets a crowd of dozens followed by Trump showing up and getting a crowd of dozens of...thousands, it should be eye-opening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:48 AM (GBKbO)
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I've come to the conclusion that the venn diagram of people who still dick ride Elon, and butthurt DeSantis influencers is a perfect circle.
Posted by: Cmonman at July 07, 2025 11:49 AM (wgct4)
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 11:49 AM (NFX2v)
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189 That's a lot of land to cover with warning sirens and very few people to pay for it.
Posted by: rickb223
Not only is it sparsely populated, but the terrain is so rolling, that a siren could go off half a mile away and you probably would not hear it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:47 AM (Vfq+S)
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Did the flood alert go out on cell phones like Amber alerts?
Posted by: rickb223
Not only is it sparsely populated, but the terrain is so rolling, that a siren could go off half a mile away and you probably would not hear it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:47 AM (Vfq+S)
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Did the flood alert go out on cell phones like Amber alerts?
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:50 AM (G0vdT)
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>>Again, Ghislane Maxwell needs to be released from prison as apparently, per the FBI/DOJ, she and Epstein, had no clients, were not trafficking children for the purposes of prostetutution and weren't blackmailing anyone.
>Maxwell is currently serving a 20-year prison sentence. She was convicted on five counts of aiding Epstein in his abuse of underage girls in December 2021.
Even if nobody else abused the girls, and they did, there are victims who testified that Maxwell trafficked the girls to Epstein.
https://tinyurl.com/52sperk6
>Maxwell is currently serving a 20-year prison sentence. She was convicted on five counts of aiding Epstein in his abuse of underage girls in December 2021.
Even if nobody else abused the girls, and they did, there are victims who testified that Maxwell trafficked the girls to Epstein.
https://tinyurl.com/52sperk6
Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 11:50 AM (viF8m)
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123 HOPEFULLY, he'll wake up to reality. Sadly a lot of "LIBERTARIAN!!!" types never do.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
I think you are really spot on, I see a lot of the CEO disease with Elon that we saw with Trump in his first term. “I said do this, I am not here to listen to you tell me why you can’t. I am here for you to tell me when it’s finished”. And then the organization moves mountains, and it happens, and the CEO says “I told you it could and should be done.” I can’t even begin to tell you how often this happens. There is definitely a concept that if you push hard enough on the team, they will get where you want them to go. Elon struggles with the fact this hard wall stance wasn’t taken - but none of these people work for the President, and they are all slimey politicians. I know people in Elon’s organizations. He is hard. He is demanding. Dialogue is not really a thing when a decision has been made. And our side can’t get their acts together enough to get in lock step like the Dems. We really are weak in this space, and if I were Elon, I would be frustrated, too.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian
I think you are really spot on, I see a lot of the CEO disease with Elon that we saw with Trump in his first term. “I said do this, I am not here to listen to you tell me why you can’t. I am here for you to tell me when it’s finished”. And then the organization moves mountains, and it happens, and the CEO says “I told you it could and should be done.” I can’t even begin to tell you how often this happens. There is definitely a concept that if you push hard enough on the team, they will get where you want them to go. Elon struggles with the fact this hard wall stance wasn’t taken - but none of these people work for the President, and they are all slimey politicians. I know people in Elon’s organizations. He is hard. He is demanding. Dialogue is not really a thing when a decision has been made. And our side can’t get their acts together enough to get in lock step like the Dems. We really are weak in this space, and if I were Elon, I would be frustrated, too.
Posted by: Piper at July 07, 2025 11:50 AM (pZEOD)
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:50 AM (uWKK8)
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That is the other thing these idiots do not get- population density. 'Someone should have done something!' Well, unless the people THERE did something, there's not a lot of people TO do something. Most of the country is empty.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (bss/y)
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In part, "House Republicans voted on Thursday to claw back billions of dollars in federal funding for public broadcasting and foreign aid, locking in the first set of slashes made by the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
The chamber approved the legislation — known as a rescissions package — in a 214-212 vote, greenlighting $9.4 billion in cuts to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), which DOGE went after earlier this year, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funnels dollars to NPR and PBS.
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) hailed the package as a large step forward in the GOP’s quest to bringing down the $36 trillion — and growing — deficit."
And, that may be it. Pitiful.
Is it possible that he's going to do individual, tightly targeted rescissions so as to make the Dems take a position on each one?
The chamber approved the legislation — known as a rescissions package — in a 214-212 vote, greenlighting $9.4 billion in cuts to the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), which DOGE went after earlier this year, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which funnels dollars to NPR and PBS.
Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) hailed the package as a large step forward in the GOP’s quest to bringing down the $36 trillion — and growing — deficit."
And, that may be it. Pitiful.
Is it possible that he's going to do individual, tightly targeted rescissions so as to make the Dems take a position on each one?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
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Did the flood alert go out on cell phones like Amber alerts?
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11
My understanding is yes, however, it goes off for every weather event and you aren’t really sure if this is the one or not.
Did the flood alert go out on cell phones like Amber alerts?
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11
My understanding is yes, however, it goes off for every weather event and you aren’t really sure if this is the one or not.
Posted by: Piper at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (pZEOD)
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"Is the removal of these subsidies going to cause us to die? I have a few things to plan out if that's the case.
Posted by: NR Pax"
Only those that survived net neutrality and US AID cuts. And especially women, children and minorities.
Posted by: NR Pax"
Only those that survived net neutrality and US AID cuts. And especially women, children and minorities.
Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (GUOwU)
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For third time in two days, I am thinking don't trust foreign born people with American natural rights.
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (+qU29)
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I think Musk doesn't understand this fight in the least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
I don't think he understands the raw power that the deep state has accrued over the last few generations.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
I don't think he understands the raw power that the deep state has accrued over the last few generations.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (g8Ew8)
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10 We have way too many CEOs who bought into this crap.
They should suffer for their stupidity, but they'll be rewarded, instead.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
This is something that boils me bum. I have no problem suffering for my own stupidity. That's just life and hopefully it teaches me something. When I suffer because of other people's stupidity is when I get a wee bit miffed. And then watching them get cash and prizes for it just adds insult to injury.
They should suffer for their stupidity, but they'll be rewarded, instead.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 07, 2025 11:04 AM (N1DT3)
This is something that boils me bum. I have no problem suffering for my own stupidity. That's just life and hopefully it teaches me something. When I suffer because of other people's stupidity is when I get a wee bit miffed. And then watching them get cash and prizes for it just adds insult to injury.
Posted by: Popularity beats competence or virtue every time at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (TbWk/)
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201 Is it possible that he's going to do individual, tightly targeted rescissions so as to make the Dems take a position on each one?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
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It needs to be remembered but the OBBB had 31 rescission sections in it, including one that rescinded all unspent Inflation Reduction Act funds.
Plus, there's another reconciliation bill available to run through the Senate (rules limit it to 2 a fiscal year), and the second one won't need to be "paid for" because of tax cuts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (Riz8t)
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It needs to be remembered but the OBBB had 31 rescission sections in it, including one that rescinded all unspent Inflation Reduction Act funds.
Plus, there's another reconciliation bill available to run through the Senate (rules limit it to 2 a fiscal year), and the second one won't need to be "paid for" because of tax cuts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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Part of me thinks Elon is self correcting to try and salvage Tesla. He burned his company to the ground by supporting Trump. Now going against Trump is his attempt at bringing back leftist buyers.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (ImXfC)
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194 I've come to the conclusion that the venn diagram of people who still dick ride Elon, and butthurt DeSantis influencers is a perfect circle.
Posted by: Cmonman
I've come to the conclusion that you have an unusually intense interest in dicks and butts.
Posted by: Cmonman
I've come to the conclusion that you have an unusually intense interest in dicks and butts.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (Riz8t)
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Did the flood alert go out on cell phones like Amber alerts?
Posted by: WisRich
I have gotten flash flood texts in my area.
Posted by: WisRich
I have gotten flash flood texts in my area.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (Vfq+S)
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I am okay with a third party but the time to do it is when the party you least agree with is in power, not the one you most agree with. You need to pressure your buddies when you're not going to throw it all into the hands of the enemy by competing.
I've come to the conclusion that the venn diagram of people who still dick ride Elon, and butthurt DeSantis influencers is a perfect circle.
A news story claiming that Qatar dumped money into the pockets of 250 "right wing influencers" broke not long ago. I think a lot of that can be tracked to some attitudes and behavior.
I've come to the conclusion that the venn diagram of people who still dick ride Elon, and butthurt DeSantis influencers is a perfect circle.
A news story claiming that Qatar dumped money into the pockets of 250 "right wing influencers" broke not long ago. I think a lot of that can be tracked to some attitudes and behavior.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (dfIr7)
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Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 07, 2025 11:37 AM (tvrW2)
Your point would have been better if you hadn’t said you’re not for the Musk party also.
Seems like you’re criticizing yourself. That is unless you don’t think that there is a uniparty situation.
I don’t . I think they are quite distinguishable.
Your point would have been better if you hadn’t said you’re not for the Musk party also.
Seems like you’re criticizing yourself. That is unless you don’t think that there is a uniparty situation.
I don’t . I think they are quite distinguishable.
Posted by: polynikes at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (VofaG)
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@197
>>Even if nobody else abused the girls, and they did, there are victims who testified that Maxwell trafficked the girls to Epstein.
So they abused and trafficed these girls to themselves? They flew these girls to Pedo Island and to parties in Europe and elsewhere for themselves?
Bondi, Bongino and Kash, have lost all credibility.
>>Even if nobody else abused the girls, and they did, there are victims who testified that Maxwell trafficked the girls to Epstein.
So they abused and trafficed these girls to themselves? They flew these girls to Pedo Island and to parties in Europe and elsewhere for themselves?
Bondi, Bongino and Kash, have lost all credibility.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (XV/Pl)
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205 I think Musk doesn't understand this fight in the least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
I don't think he understands the raw power that the deep state has accrued over the last few generations.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (g8Ew
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If you're concerned with the debt and have never thought about interest rates on government debt, you are not actually concerned with the debt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
I don't think he understands the raw power that the deep state has accrued over the last few generations.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (g8Ew
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If you're concerned with the debt and have never thought about interest rates on government debt, you are not actually concerned with the debt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (ImXfC)
Nice. But he served his purpose and Trump did well to get the use out of him.
The bottom line on all this? Don't trust anyone.
What Musk did with Twitter is cool. Whether he is naive or scum or just human who knows. I bet just human.
Nice. But he served his purpose and Trump did well to get the use out of him.
The bottom line on all this? Don't trust anyone.
What Musk did with Twitter is cool. Whether he is naive or scum or just human who knows. I bet just human.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (VPwHp)
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I really don't understand Elon's new political party idea. All I hear is that the BBB did not cut spending enough to stop incurring more debt. How exactly did he think that could be done in one fell swoop?
Presumably the same way that countless people here thought it could be done in one go. Fantasy.
Presumably the same way that countless people here thought it could be done in one go. Fantasy.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: olddog in mo at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (ViCCR)
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Got one.
Posted by: Cmonman at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (wgct4)
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204 For third time in two days, I am thinking don't trust foreign born people with American natural rights.
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (+qU29)
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Founders Fathers: "Yep"
Posted by: Skip at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (+qU29)
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Founders Fathers: "Yep"
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (G0vdT)
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193 When Musk goes to stump for Massie, or anybody, PDT will order Trump One into the air for a low fly by. PDT doesn't have to be aboard, just fly that baby low and slow for the peeps to see it. When you have a personal air crews on standby, you must give them training time.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (gm9Sb)
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I have gotten flash flood alerts in Corsicana.
Posted by: Ben Had at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (HFcKg)
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"When Musk goes to stump for Massie and gets a crowd of dozens followed by Trump showing up and getting a crowd of dozens of...thousands, it should be eye-opening."
GMAFB. Neither of them are going to come here and stump in a Northern Kentucky district. Most of what would show up wouldn't even be from Massie's district.
Massie isn't going anywhere. He is voting exactly how we want him to vote.
What endlessly frustrates me about all this is that "CONSERVATIVES" have completely lost touch with what we were about 2 years ago.
Remember that huge fight over Leadership and the demand that Congress do its damn job and pass an actual budget?
So, yeah... that was all just another rope-a-dope.
So now CONSERVATIVES are all for huge, impossible to read continuing resolutions as long as we get things we want in them.
GMAFB. Neither of them are going to come here and stump in a Northern Kentucky district. Most of what would show up wouldn't even be from Massie's district.
Massie isn't going anywhere. He is voting exactly how we want him to vote.
What endlessly frustrates me about all this is that "CONSERVATIVES" have completely lost touch with what we were about 2 years ago.
Remember that huge fight over Leadership and the demand that Congress do its damn job and pass an actual budget?
So, yeah... that was all just another rope-a-dope.
So now CONSERVATIVES are all for huge, impossible to read continuing resolutions as long as we get things we want in them.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (/xDbx)
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Did the flood alert go out on cell phones like Amber alerts?
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11
My understanding is yes, however, it goes off for every weather event and you aren’t really sure if this is the one or not.
Posted by: Piper at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (pZEOD)
I was talking to someone about that yesterday, I've received 10 emergency Tornado alerts for every one that was within 50 miles of me, and you quickly get numb to all of them.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 11
My understanding is yes, however, it goes off for every weather event and you aren’t really sure if this is the one or not.
Posted by: Piper at July 07, 2025 11:51 AM (pZEOD)
I was talking to someone about that yesterday, I've received 10 emergency Tornado alerts for every one that was within 50 miles of me, and you quickly get numb to all of them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (uWKK8)
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>>Is it possible that he's going to do individual, tightly targeted rescissions so as to make the Dems take a position on each one?
The recission process starts with a request from the White House to recind specific spending. The House doesn't pick anything, the White House does.
There will be more requests if this one works.
The recission process starts with a request from the White House to recind specific spending. The House doesn't pick anything, the White House does.
There will be more requests if this one works.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (viF8m)
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When Musk goes to stump for Massie and gets a crowd of dozens followed by Trump showing up and getting a crowd of dozens of...thousands, it should be eye-opening.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July
I think it will die out by then, I think Elon is mad and he is saying I told you I will do something not fun for you, so I am. He strongly believes we are in crisis and he thinks anyone with an ounce of sense will see it and act accordingly. He is about to get a dose of how not super smart many in our country are, and it isn’t limited to the Dems.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July
I think it will die out by then, I think Elon is mad and he is saying I told you I will do something not fun for you, so I am. He strongly believes we are in crisis and he thinks anyone with an ounce of sense will see it and act accordingly. He is about to get a dose of how not super smart many in our country are, and it isn’t limited to the Dems.
Posted by: Piper at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (pZEOD)
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I think Musk doesn't understand this fight in the least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
I don't think he understands the raw power that the deep state has accrued over the last few generations.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (g8Ew
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If you're concerned with the debt and have never thought about interest rates on government debt, you are not actually concerned with the debt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Spoiler alert: nobody is concerned with the debt. Literally nobody. Oh, they talk about it like they are, and are all about cutting other people's shit. But they are unwilling to cut their own shit -- even a little -- and thus aren't concerned about the debt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:42 AM (GBKbO)
I don't think he understands the raw power that the deep state has accrued over the last few generations.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 07, 2025 11:52 AM (g8Ew
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If you're concerned with the debt and have never thought about interest rates on government debt, you are not actually concerned with the debt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)
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Spoiler alert: nobody is concerned with the debt. Literally nobody. Oh, they talk about it like they are, and are all about cutting other people's shit. But they are unwilling to cut their own shit -- even a little -- and thus aren't concerned about the debt.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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Damn, how much space does she power? My bill is under $250/month even in summer, and my whole townhome is electric (no gas, no nothing)...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Do you spend 3-4 months at a time where the overnight low gets down into the mid-80s?
Posted by: Nova Local at July 07, 2025 11:27 AM (tOcjL)
Do you spend 3-4 months at a time where the overnight low gets down into the mid-80s?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (ExV1e)
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222 What endlessly frustrates me about all this is that "CONSERVATIVES" have completely lost touch with what we were about 2 years ago.
Remember that huge fight over Leadership and the demand that Congress do its damn job and pass an actual budget?
So, yeah... that was all just another rope-a-dope.
So now CONSERVATIVES are all for huge, impossible to read continuing resolutions as long as we get things we want in them.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (/xDbx)
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What did Massie do to make the OBBB better?
What spending cuts did he get added to it?
Remember that huge fight over Leadership and the demand that Congress do its damn job and pass an actual budget?
So, yeah... that was all just another rope-a-dope.
So now CONSERVATIVES are all for huge, impossible to read continuing resolutions as long as we get things we want in them.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (/xDbx)
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What did Massie do to make the OBBB better?
What spending cuts did he get added to it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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> I see when Trump was heading to the plane "reporters" were shouting whether he thought his "cut" to FEMA and the NWS caused the amount of deaths in Texas.. He just walked on....
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We've been in a very active period of solar activity. Months ago we were able to see, with the naked eye, auroras for first time in my life. Those solar flares that can cause the aurora also impact the weather here on Earth. It's still going on. A roughly 11 year cycle of waxing and waning solar activity.
But, yea... let's put the blame on staffing levels at the National Weather Service for the uptick in severe weather. Totally logical. And the timing and number of alerts that were sent, not only in TX but elsewhere that has been devastated by severe weather hasn't changed.
In fact, there are so many weather apps and services now that I get multiple alerts for weather on my phone, via e-mail and on a NOAA branded weather radio. None of that has anything to do with Trump.
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We've been in a very active period of solar activity. Months ago we were able to see, with the naked eye, auroras for first time in my life. Those solar flares that can cause the aurora also impact the weather here on Earth. It's still going on. A roughly 11 year cycle of waxing and waning solar activity.
But, yea... let's put the blame on staffing levels at the National Weather Service for the uptick in severe weather. Totally logical. And the timing and number of alerts that were sent, not only in TX but elsewhere that has been devastated by severe weather hasn't changed.
In fact, there are so many weather apps and services now that I get multiple alerts for weather on my phone, via e-mail and on a NOAA branded weather radio. None of that has anything to do with Trump.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (/xDbx)
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I've read that one YUUGE benefit about the BBB is that it puts our budget process back into "regular order" -- no more "CONTINUING RESOLUTION" bullshit.
IOW, they're going to have to actually authorize and pass spending bills/the budget bill again, instead of just saying, "Yeah, all that stuff we authorized last year, let's just do it again!" (always with the wailing that if they don't do it, the precious FedGov will "shut down").
That, friends, is how the trillion-dollar ticket items like Obama's and Biden's got reauthorized every year without debate. Those were not one-shot deals with the CR regime.
IOW, they're going to have to actually authorize and pass spending bills/the budget bill again, instead of just saying, "Yeah, all that stuff we authorized last year, let's just do it again!" (always with the wailing that if they don't do it, the precious FedGov will "shut down").
That, friends, is how the trillion-dollar ticket items like Obama's and Biden's got reauthorized every year without debate. Those were not one-shot deals with the CR regime.
Posted by: Beverly at July 07, 2025 11:56 AM (Epeb0)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:56 AM (bss/y)
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Thanks for following the details in the OBBB. It is good to see a lot of the leftist boondoggles being eliminated.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (i24o9)
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What did Massie do to make the OBBB better?
What spending cuts did he get added to it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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Massie is ONLY rep who is actually voting on principle and not on how much pork he can get written in.
What spending cuts did he get added to it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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Massie is ONLY rep who is actually voting on principle and not on how much pork he can get written in.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (/xDbx)
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226 Spoiler alert: nobody is concerned with the debt. Literally nobody. Oh, they talk about it like they are, and are all about cutting other people's shit. But they are unwilling to cut their own shit -- even a little -- and thus aren't concerned about the debt.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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I assume there are a few thousand, maybe a few tens of thousands, who actually care.
But going from 2012 where the GOP message was "Obama's spending will bankrupt us. It's math." to 2025 post-covid and Ukraine...
And the American government still hasn't collapsed despite nearly tripling the debt?
Yeah, I'm not surprised people don't actually care anymore.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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I assume there are a few thousand, maybe a few tens of thousands, who actually care.
But going from 2012 where the GOP message was "Obama's spending will bankrupt us. It's math." to 2025 post-covid and Ukraine...
And the American government still hasn't collapsed despite nearly tripling the debt?
Yeah, I'm not surprised people don't actually care anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (GBKbO)
236
>>So they abused and trafficed these girls to themselves? They flew these girls to Pedo Island and to parties in Europe and elsewhere for themselves?
Or you could just read the article. Maxwell was convicted of trafficking the girls to Epstein. He also abused them. She was not convicted of trafficking them to others.
Or you could just read the article. Maxwell was convicted of trafficking the girls to Epstein. He also abused them. She was not convicted of trafficking them to others.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (viF8m)
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I was talking to someone about that yesterday, I've received 10 emergency Tornado alerts for every one that was within 50 miles of me, and you quickly get numb to all of them.
I get something like that from my Alexa. Every rain shower or zephyr gets called to my attention. I just delete them without listening now.
I get something like that from my Alexa. Every rain shower or zephyr gets called to my attention. I just delete them without listening now.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (Riz8t)
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They have a huge mass naturalization ceremony every year on the Fourth of July at Mount Vernon. The speaker at this year’s ceremony was Schwarzenegger.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (77rzZ)
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So now CONSERVATIVES are all for huge, impossible to read continuing resolutions as long as we get things we want in them.
No, we don't like the waste and graft and the debt ceiling going up. But we realize that you cannot get everything at once, and think the answer is to primary out the people who fight against doing the right thing.
Politics is not about "I get perfection" its about "I get the least crappy thing I can manage." Massie, like Ron Paul talks a great line, but his voting record is much less consistent and his behavior is very uneven. I get that its nice to have someone who at least says the stuff we want done, but he's been fine with raising the debt ceiling in the past. Just not this time.
No, we don't like the waste and graft and the debt ceiling going up. But we realize that you cannot get everything at once, and think the answer is to primary out the people who fight against doing the right thing.
Politics is not about "I get perfection" its about "I get the least crappy thing I can manage." Massie, like Ron Paul talks a great line, but his voting record is much less consistent and his behavior is very uneven. I get that its nice to have someone who at least says the stuff we want done, but he's been fine with raising the debt ceiling in the past. Just not this time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (dfIr7)
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The flood disaster will disappear in 24 or maybe 48 hours. Why? Dead white Christian girls.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (iFTx/)
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234 Massie is ONLY rep who is actually voting on principle and not on how much pork he can get written in.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (/xDbx)
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So, when he voted to increase the debt ceiling under Biden, was that principle?
And again, the dude is on three committees, including the rules committee.
He could have included specific spending cuts. He didn't. He chose to do rhetoric instead.
Stop falling for rhetoric.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (/xDbx)
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So, when he voted to increase the debt ceiling under Biden, was that principle?
And again, the dude is on three committees, including the rules committee.
He could have included specific spending cuts. He didn't. He chose to do rhetoric instead.
Stop falling for rhetoric.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
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I got a warning on all my phones last week for an adult woman they thought might be in danger but the warning said do not approach under any circumstances.
Odd.
Odd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (bss/y)
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Unlike traditional omnibus bills where Republican congressmen get funding for roads or infrastructure in exchange for Democrats getting an expansion of the welfare state
Why either of those funding entities are at the federal level at all is the much bigger scandal and money suck. Both of them belong at the States' level of government. Trump would do well to just push those programs down to the States, write a check to each State's general fund for the amount budgeted, and close down the DC end of it all.
What does DC bring to the table that the States cannot or should not acquire on their own? Why does every public dollar need to be laundered through three or four levels of DC bureaucracy before finding a home?
Why either of those funding entities are at the federal level at all is the much bigger scandal and money suck. Both of them belong at the States' level of government. Trump would do well to just push those programs down to the States, write a check to each State's general fund for the amount budgeted, and close down the DC end of it all.
What does DC bring to the table that the States cannot or should not acquire on their own? Why does every public dollar need to be laundered through three or four levels of DC bureaucracy before finding a home?
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (bufu1)
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I've come to the conclusion that the venn diagram of people who still dick ride Elon, and butthurt DeSantis influencers is a perfect circle.
Posted by: Cmonman at July 07, 2025 11:49 AM (wgct4)
lol, You may rely on it
Posted by: Cmonman at July 07, 2025 11:49 AM (wgct4)
lol, You may rely on it
Posted by: Magic 8 Ball at July 07, 2025 11:59 AM (i24o9)
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Stop falling for rhetoric.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbOM
Is John Fetterman in our side? Listen all the mouth noises he makes!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbOM
Is John Fetterman in our side? Listen all the mouth noises he makes!
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 07, 2025 11:59 AM (MGB5H)
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speaker at this year’s ceremony was Schwarzenegger.
Fuck him in particular. Shit on California on his way out of office.
Fuck him in particular. Shit on California on his way out of office.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 11:59 AM (NIQkN)
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201. Is it possible that he's going to do individual, tightly targeted rescissions so as to make the Dems take a position on each one?
Posted by: Archimedes
Good point and yes, sure. But, they can also sit on their 'winnings' until at least the mid-terms when a lot of Congress will turnover.
Locally, the progressives who run the region seemed to bet the substantial SALT tax increases in the BBB would become a reality and have raised local taxes dramatically.
They carp about conservative policies to constituents, of course, but never miss an opportunity to take more from them.
Posted by: Archimedes
Good point and yes, sure. But, they can also sit on their 'winnings' until at least the mid-terms when a lot of Congress will turnover.
Locally, the progressives who run the region seemed to bet the substantial SALT tax increases in the BBB would become a reality and have raised local taxes dramatically.
They carp about conservative policies to constituents, of course, but never miss an opportunity to take more from them.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 12:00 PM (NFX2v)
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Spoiler alert: nobody is concerned with the debt. Literally nobody. Oh, they talk about it like they are, and are all about cutting other people's shit. But they are unwilling to cut their own shit -- even a little -- and thus aren't concerned about the debt.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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I assume there are a few thousand, maybe a few tens of thousands, who actually care.
But going from 2012 where the GOP message was "Obama's spending will bankrupt us. It's math." to 2025 post-covid and Ukraine...
And the American government still hasn't collapsed despite nearly tripling the debt?
Yeah, I'm not surprised people don't actually care anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (GBKbO)
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Maybe a few hundred people? I have been hearing about the looming cataclysm of the debt -- and associated budget deficits -- literally since I was a kid and didn't even understand what they were. I'm now pushing middle age.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
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I assume there are a few thousand, maybe a few tens of thousands, who actually care.
But going from 2012 where the GOP message was "Obama's spending will bankrupt us. It's math." to 2025 post-covid and Ukraine...
And the American government still hasn't collapsed despite nearly tripling the debt?
Yeah, I'm not surprised people don't actually care anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:57 AM (GBKbO)
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Maybe a few hundred people? I have been hearing about the looming cataclysm of the debt -- and associated budget deficits -- literally since I was a kid and didn't even understand what they were. I'm now pushing middle age.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:00 PM (iFTx/)
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What endlessly frustrates me about all this is that "CONSERVATIVES" have completely lost touch with what we were about 2 years ago.
Remember that huge fight over Leadership and the demand that Congress do its damn job and pass an actual budget?
So, yeah... that was all just another rope-a-dope.
So now CONSERVATIVES are all for huge, impossible to read continuing resolutions as long as we get things we want in them.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (/xDbx)
And yet we're back to the fact that that there at best only 44 actual "conservatives" in the Senate, and they're not enough to get anything done without making deals. The House actually did better than the Senate this time around. So what do you do?
I thought, and still think, that addressing the deficit is important. But even more important:
1) increasing funding for ICE and truly getting in control of the illegal immigrant system.
2) cutting down the Green New Deal scams, no matter what deals have to be made to do that. (and yes, it wasn't perfect and this was just a start)
3) making the tax cuts permanent, so a huge tax increase doesn't create a recession just before the mid term elections.
Remember that huge fight over Leadership and the demand that Congress do its damn job and pass an actual budget?
So, yeah... that was all just another rope-a-dope.
So now CONSERVATIVES are all for huge, impossible to read continuing resolutions as long as we get things we want in them.
Posted by: ghbucky at July 07, 2025 11:54 AM (/xDbx)
And yet we're back to the fact that that there at best only 44 actual "conservatives" in the Senate, and they're not enough to get anything done without making deals. The House actually did better than the Senate this time around. So what do you do?
I thought, and still think, that addressing the deficit is important. But even more important:
1) increasing funding for ICE and truly getting in control of the illegal immigrant system.
2) cutting down the Green New Deal scams, no matter what deals have to be made to do that. (and yes, it wasn't perfect and this was just a start)
3) making the tax cuts permanent, so a huge tax increase doesn't create a recession just before the mid term elections.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:01 PM (uWKK8)
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Spoiler alert: nobody is concerned with the debt. Literally nobody. Oh, they talk about it like they are, and are all about cutting other people's shit. But they are unwilling to cut their own shit -- even a little -- and thus aren't concerned about the debt.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
Uptown, Downtown, Hands off my hands free catheter and my free at no cost to me Hoveround!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 11:55 AM (iFTx/)
Uptown, Downtown, Hands off my hands free catheter and my free at no cost to me Hoveround!
Posted by: Dirty Old Boomer Hippie Who Loves A Good Chant at July 07, 2025 12:01 PM (lX1hk)
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Stop falling for rhetoric.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
But Cicero is so eloquent! and he keeps telling me it is all the fault of Cataline and he is the literal devil and all I need to do is approve emergency powers so Cicero can deal with the threat...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
But Cicero is so eloquent! and he keeps telling me it is all the fault of Cataline and he is the literal devil and all I need to do is approve emergency powers so Cicero can deal with the threat...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:01 PM (bss/y)
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@236
>>Or you could just read the article. Maxwell was convicted of trafficking the girls to Epstein. He also abused them. She was not convicted of trafficking them to others.
So the whole Epstein operation was an internal operation between Ghislane and Epstein and with Epstein's death and Ghislane's inprisonment, that's it, no more more bad actors to go after?
How very unsatisfying.
>>Or you could just read the article. Maxwell was convicted of trafficking the girls to Epstein. He also abused them. She was not convicted of trafficking them to others.
So the whole Epstein operation was an internal operation between Ghislane and Epstein and with Epstein's death and Ghislane's inprisonment, that's it, no more more bad actors to go after?
How very unsatisfying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 12:02 PM (XV/Pl)
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I think Massie wanted a better seat at the grifting table if he'd go along with MAGA and didn't get one. Thus he pissed in everyone's Cheerios.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 07, 2025 12:02 PM (Q4IgG)
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242 I got a warning on all my phones last week for an adult woman they thought might be in danger but the warning said do not approach under any circumstances.
Odd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (bss/y)
Was Liz Cheney drunk again?
Odd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (bss/y)
Was Liz Cheney drunk again?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:02 PM (uWKK8)
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Stop falling for rhetoric.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
But Cicero is so eloquent! and he keeps telling me it is all the fault of Cataline and he is the literal devil and all I need to do is approve emergency powers so Cicero can deal with the threat...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:01 PM
And that Brutus is an honorable man!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
But Cicero is so eloquent! and he keeps telling me it is all the fault of Cataline and he is the literal devil and all I need to do is approve emergency powers so Cicero can deal with the threat...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:01 PM
And that Brutus is an honorable man!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (dPfyF)
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>>>My understanding is yes, however, it goes off for every weather event and you aren’t really sure if this is the one or not.
Right, which is why I spent the $50 on a NOAA weather alert receiver with S.A.M.E function for localized NWS alerts that allows you to receive only the type of notifications that you program into it.
Mine is set up for only tornados and severe thunderstorms in Escambia Co., FL and Baldwin Co., AL.
Right, which is why I spent the $50 on a NOAA weather alert receiver with S.A.M.E function for localized NWS alerts that allows you to receive only the type of notifications that you program into it.
Mine is set up for only tornados and severe thunderstorms in Escambia Co., FL and Baldwin Co., AL.
Posted by: one hour sober at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (Y1sOo)
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242 I got a warning on all my phones last week for an adult woman they thought might be in danger but the warning said do not approach under any circumstances.
Odd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (bss/y)
Emergency Emergency Hurry Up And Do Nothing
....
OK, then. I'm on it.
Odd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 11:58 AM (bss/y)
Emergency Emergency Hurry Up And Do Nothing
....
OK, then. I'm on it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (VoAdT)
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249 And yet we're back to the fact that that there at best only 44 actual "conservatives" in the Senate, and they're not enough to get anything done without making deals. The House actually did better than the Senate this time around. So what do you do?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:01 PM (uWKK
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Massie should have created a group of 10 Republicans who would have sold their votes to leadership for specific cuts.
Those cuts should have been centered on spending earmarked for blue districts. Civic improvements and pet projects 10 years old that no one thinks about anymore.
Come together to find $100 million, $1 billion, $10 billion, $100 billion, whatever you could find. "We will be your deciding votes if you cut this stuff."
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:01 PM (uWKK
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Massie should have created a group of 10 Republicans who would have sold their votes to leadership for specific cuts.
Those cuts should have been centered on spending earmarked for blue districts. Civic improvements and pet projects 10 years old that no one thinks about anymore.
Come together to find $100 million, $1 billion, $10 billion, $100 billion, whatever you could find. "We will be your deciding votes if you cut this stuff."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
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> I see when Trump was heading to the plane "reporters" were shouting whether he thought his "cut" to FEMA and the NWS caused the amount of deaths in Texas.. He just walked on....
Fucking ghouls.
And subhuman retards to boot.
What sort of money or plan would they have put in place to prevent flash flooding deaths in a flood plain, albeit an infrequently afflicted flood plain?
Evil retards.
Fucking ghouls.
And subhuman retards to boot.
What sort of money or plan would they have put in place to prevent flash flooding deaths in a flood plain, albeit an infrequently afflicted flood plain?
Evil retards.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (i24o9)
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I get something like that from my Alexa. Every rain shower or zephyr gets called to my attention. I just delete them without listening now.
when I get a tornado alert I take it seriously.
About ten days we got one and a hundred foot oak tree smashed down into neighbor's pool area. (This was about a football field length away from me.) The wind concentrated with such force right behind neighbor's house. It took down the big tree, and when it came down, two smaller trees fell with it
As if that wasn't bad enough, when the tree service came with the equipment to clear the tree, I watched the crane pick up these big lengths of tree, and they would flail around before they made it down to the chipper...missing my side wall by about an inch. I thought for sure one of those limbs was going to punch a hole in my exterior wall. But they didn't, thank God.
when I get a tornado alert I take it seriously.
About ten days we got one and a hundred foot oak tree smashed down into neighbor's pool area. (This was about a football field length away from me.) The wind concentrated with such force right behind neighbor's house. It took down the big tree, and when it came down, two smaller trees fell with it
As if that wasn't bad enough, when the tree service came with the equipment to clear the tree, I watched the crane pick up these big lengths of tree, and they would flail around before they made it down to the chipper...missing my side wall by about an inch. I thought for sure one of those limbs was going to punch a hole in my exterior wall. But they didn't, thank God.
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (dCxaZ)
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Schwarzenegger is a jackass especially on the Wuhan Flu, but he is good on immigration.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (dfIr7)
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Also, the whole, "This increases the debt," line is from CBO analysis that calls tax cuts spending.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)
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And that Brutus is an honorable man!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (dPfyF)
It's all the same stupid shit since time immemorial.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (dPfyF)
It's all the same stupid shit since time immemorial.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:04 PM (bss/y)
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I have gotten flash flood alerts in Corsicana.
Posted by: Ben
The problem is, when they send an alert out, they broadcast it far & wide on a cell phone network.
Wake me up at 3:00 am for something 150 miles away from me and going in the opposite direction and see how quickly I turn it off.
Posted by: Ben
The problem is, when they send an alert out, they broadcast it far & wide on a cell phone network.
Wake me up at 3:00 am for something 150 miles away from me and going in the opposite direction and see how quickly I turn it off.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:04 PM (erzCX)
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Massie should have created a group of 10 Republicans who would have sold their votes to leadership for specific cuts.
Instead he just tried to form a coalition to kill the bill, removing all the good stuff from happening, and throwing Democrats a huge win. Nothing positive, just opposition. Somehow I doubt that's what his constituents voted for.
Instead he just tried to form a coalition to kill the bill, removing all the good stuff from happening, and throwing Democrats a huge win. Nothing positive, just opposition. Somehow I doubt that's what his constituents voted for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:05 PM (dfIr7)
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JFK killed himself
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM
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There is a Red Dwarf episode that shows this.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 07, 2025 11:21 AM
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There is a Red Dwarf episode that shows this.
Posted by: Darth Randall at July 07, 2025 12:05 PM (s1T40)
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Those who ignore their weather alerts will be the first ones done in by the latest Bomb Cyclone, Derecho, and/or Polar Vortex!
Posted by: Prudence Dictates @ Weather Channel at July 07, 2025 12:05 PM (G5+As)
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Trump should start carrying around a horsewhip.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:06 PM (VoAdT)
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265 Massie should have created a group of 10 Republicans who would have sold their votes to leadership for specific cuts.
Instead he just tried to form a coalition to kill the bill, removing all the good stuff from happening, and throwing Democrats a huge win. Nothing positive, just opposition. Somehow I doubt that's what his constituents voted for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:05 PM (dfIr7)
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He did it while saying small government things.
That makes him a true old-school conservative.
I'm not even being mean about it. That's full on George W. Bush conservatism.
Instead he just tried to form a coalition to kill the bill, removing all the good stuff from happening, and throwing Democrats a huge win. Nothing positive, just opposition. Somehow I doubt that's what his constituents voted for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:05 PM (dfIr7)
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He did it while saying small government things.
That makes him a true old-school conservative.
I'm not even being mean about it. That's full on George W. Bush conservatism.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:06 PM (GBKbO)
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speaker at this year’s ceremony was Schwarzenegger.
Fuck him in particular. Shit on California on his way out of office.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 11:59 AM (NIQkN)
I did! Arnold also fucked me in the ass! He kept calling me his little Danny Devito loolalike! I love Arnold! Call me Arnold!
Fuck him in particular. Shit on California on his way out of office.
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 07, 2025 11:59 AM (NIQkN)
I did! Arnold also fucked me in the ass! He kept calling me his little Danny Devito loolalike! I love Arnold! Call me Arnold!
Posted by: Mildred Baena, Arnold's Maid at July 07, 2025 12:06 PM (lX1hk)
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Wake me up at 3:00 am for something 150 miles away from me and going in the opposite direction and see how quickly I turn it off.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:04 PM (erzCX)
Government atwerk.
This is why no amount of FEMA or NWS spending could have prevented those deaths. Every year, people get killed in flash floods, despite knowing or being capable of knowing the dangers, and this has gone on since the dawn of time.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:04 PM (erzCX)
Government atwerk.
This is why no amount of FEMA or NWS spending could have prevented those deaths. Every year, people get killed in flash floods, despite knowing or being capable of knowing the dangers, and this has gone on since the dawn of time.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 12:06 PM (i24o9)
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I get something like that from my Alexa. Every rain shower or zephyr gets called to my attention. I just delete them without listening now.
when I get a tornado alert I take it seriously.
As do I. My point is that if you keep bothering people with stuff that isn't that important, eventually they tune you out, and then miss the important stuff. They need to use some judgement.
when I get a tornado alert I take it seriously.
As do I. My point is that if you keep bothering people with stuff that isn't that important, eventually they tune you out, and then miss the important stuff. They need to use some judgement.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:06 PM (Riz8t)
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This Epstein about-face by the DOJ is incredible. Completely audacious, f*ck-you coverup. I don't know how Bondi can explain it away.
Posted by: Ordinary American at July 07, 2025 12:06 PM (WHfpM)
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Also, the whole, "This increases the debt," line is from CBO analysis that calls tax cuts spending.
Oh, I have no doubt that it will increase the debt. But not by as much as the CBO's accounting tricks claim. And even they are really hazy on it because nobody can really predict even close to exactly.
But... if it works the way Trump intends, it might be pretty minor because he's trying to supercharge the economy and he's greatly increasing revenues through tariffs. Its interesting to watch.
Oh, I have no doubt that it will increase the debt. But not by as much as the CBO's accounting tricks claim. And even they are really hazy on it because nobody can really predict even close to exactly.
But... if it works the way Trump intends, it might be pretty minor because he's trying to supercharge the economy and he's greatly increasing revenues through tariffs. Its interesting to watch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (dfIr7)
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>>So the whole Epstein operation was an internal operation between Ghislane and Epstein and with Epstein's death and Ghislane's inprisonment, that's it, no more more bad actors to go after?
Who knows? All we know so far is one report that says there is no client list and there is no evidence that Epstein was murdered instead of being murdered. But there are still victims who gave testimony as to abused them.
I would not be a bit surprised if the FBI under Biden destroyed a lot of evidence. It would be perfectly in keeping with their behavior on anything else that was damaging to uniparty elite.
Who knows? All we know so far is one report that says there is no client list and there is no evidence that Epstein was murdered instead of being murdered. But there are still victims who gave testimony as to abused them.
I would not be a bit surprised if the FBI under Biden destroyed a lot of evidence. It would be perfectly in keeping with their behavior on anything else that was damaging to uniparty elite.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (viF8m)
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JJ linked an article last week postulating that Oswald was trying to kill Connelly, not JFK.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (77rzZ)
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267 Those who ignore their weather alerts will be the first ones done in by the latest Bomb Cyclone, Derecho, and/or Polar Vortex!
Posted by: Prudence Dictates @ Weather Channel at July 07, 2025 12:05 PM (G5+As)
El NINO!!!!!!!
Posted by: Prudence Dictates @ Weather Channel at July 07, 2025 12:05 PM (G5+As)
El NINO!!!!!!!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (bss/y)
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What is the latest turn of Epstein events?
Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (jc0TO)
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I am starting to think that Massie might be kinda dumb.
Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (g47mK)
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I am a Trumpublican. Hopefully the sane left (i know I know...) can organize a party of sane, left leaning people to counter the Trumpublicans. Rational debate is essential for a functioning republic.
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (ycs3a)
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Massie should have created a group of 10 Republicans who would have sold their votes to leadership for specific cuts.
Those cuts should have been centered on spending earmarked for blue districts. Civic improvements and pet projects 10 years old that no one thinks about anymore.
Come together to find $100 million, $1 billion, $10 billion, $100 billion, whatever you could find. "We will be your deciding votes if you cut this stuff."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
And that observation gets to the heart of why both Massie and Rand Paul are irrelevant. Both of them *should* be doing what you say, building coalitions that would be taken seriously and accomplish goals. But both of them prefer to pontificate without putting any actual work into the job, and thus they generate headlines but are never taken seriously by any of their colleagues.
Those cuts should have been centered on spending earmarked for blue districts. Civic improvements and pet projects 10 years old that no one thinks about anymore.
Come together to find $100 million, $1 billion, $10 billion, $100 billion, whatever you could find. "We will be your deciding votes if you cut this stuff."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
And that observation gets to the heart of why both Massie and Rand Paul are irrelevant. Both of them *should* be doing what you say, building coalitions that would be taken seriously and accomplish goals. But both of them prefer to pontificate without putting any actual work into the job, and thus they generate headlines but are never taken seriously by any of their colleagues.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (uWKK8)
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276 JJ linked an article last week postulating that Oswald was trying to kill Connelly, not JFK.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (77rzZ)
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I postulate that Oswald was trying to kill James T. Kirk, but the time travel he had just experienced confused and disorientated him.
Prove me wrong.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (77rzZ)
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I postulate that Oswald was trying to kill James T. Kirk, but the time travel he had just experienced confused and disorientated him.
Prove me wrong.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
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267 Those who ignore their weather alerts will be the first ones done in by the latest Bomb Cyclone, Derecho, and/or Polar Vortex!
It's too late. I died in the last atmospheric river event.
It's too late. I died in the last atmospheric river event.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (Riz8t)
284
Shooter has attacked Border Patrol agent in Texas. Killed graveyard dead.
Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (GUOwU)
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Fetterman is a moderate compared to someone like Zohran Mamdani. That's his strength in the Commonwealth of PA & that which may take him further.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (NFX2v)
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El NINO!!!!!!!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (bss/y)
That's Spanish for The Niño.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (bss/y)
That's Spanish for The Niño.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (MGB5H)
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Wake me up at 3:00 am for something 150 miles away from me and going in the opposite direction and see how quickly I turn it off.
My first year in college, Grand Rapids Michigan, they had a tornado warning. It broke into the radio and was jarring. I was genuinely concerned, not sure what I was supposed to do. All the people from the midwest yawned and went back to studying. They had heard 1000 of them before.
My first year in college, Grand Rapids Michigan, they had a tornado warning. It broke into the radio and was jarring. I was genuinely concerned, not sure what I was supposed to do. All the people from the midwest yawned and went back to studying. They had heard 1000 of them before.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (dfIr7)
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281 And that observation gets to the heart of why both Massie and Rand Paul are irrelevant. Both of them *should* be doing what you say, building coalitions that would be taken seriously and accomplish goals. But both of them prefer to pontificate without putting any actual work into the job, and thus they generate headlines but are never taken seriously by any of their colleagues.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (uWKK
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If Paul had said yes from the start, Murkowski's carveouts for Alaska would have never been put in the bill.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (uWKK
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If Paul had said yes from the start, Murkowski's carveouts for Alaska would have never been put in the bill.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
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At Live Science: "Scientists zapped students' brains with electricity to improve their math learning"
Scientist: 'It didn't have a hope in hell of working, but DAMN it was fun to watch!'
Scientist: 'It didn't have a hope in hell of working, but DAMN it was fun to watch!'
Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at July 07, 2025 12:09 PM (K+rHH)
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279 I am starting to think that Massie might be kinda dumb.
Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (g47mK)
First, I simply observe he's very wealthy, so holding office is just an ego-boost thing for him. Past that, I think he prefers grandstanding to actually doing anything.
Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (g47mK)
First, I simply observe he's very wealthy, so holding office is just an ego-boost thing for him. Past that, I think he prefers grandstanding to actually doing anything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:09 PM (uWKK8)
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No matter how upset someone is about whatever in the the budget ,or bill, it is not an excuse to give Ds a win. Find another way to do it, dumbo.
Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:09 PM (g47mK)
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I hope the fishing ex-con has a Morgan Freeman voice. That would make it perfect.
Posted by: kbdabear at July 07, 2025 12:10 PM (zBOzm)
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That's Spanish for The Niño.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (MGB5H)
El Nino was 30 years ago. Then the changed it to la nina which was the lower key, faker and gay version.
That's Spanish for The Niño.
Posted by: BruceWayne at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM (MGB5H)
El Nino was 30 years ago. Then the changed it to la nina which was the lower key, faker and gay version.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:10 PM (bss/y)
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The "Epstein files" were always complete bullshit designed to whitewash rather than incriminate.
Anything damning to anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell is long long long gone. Anyone hoping to the contrary is somewhere between admirably optimistic and pathologically delusional.
It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
Anything damning to anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell is long long long gone. Anyone hoping to the contrary is somewhere between admirably optimistic and pathologically delusional.
It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
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"Your point would have been better if you hadn’t said you’re not for the Musk party also."
------ ---+--- -_-
I would never belong to any political party.
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I would never belong to any political party.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 07, 2025 12:11 PM (tvrW2)
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Shooter has attacked Border Patrol agent in Texas. Killed graveyard dead.
Posted by: Ripley
Same day shipping to Jesus.
Posted by: Ripley
Same day shipping to Jesus.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:11 PM (erzCX)
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292 I hope the fishing ex-con has a Morgan Freeman voice. That would make it perfect.
Posted by: kbdabear at July 07, 2025 12:10 PM (zBOzm)
Yes.
Also, rare sighting. Good to see you.
Posted by: kbdabear at July 07, 2025 12:10 PM (zBOzm)
Yes.
Also, rare sighting. Good to see you.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:11 PM (bss/y)
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I'm basically coming around to the idea that they're kaiboshing the Epstein shit because they realized that the entire edifice of government and culture would collapse in a orgy of tar and feathers if it ever actually got released, and America and half the other nations on Earth would effectively cease to exist, plunging the entire world into colander-facemask times.
A one-sided MAD doctrine for perverts, basically.
A one-sided MAD doctrine for perverts, basically.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (VoAdT)
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296 Shooter has attacked Border Patrol agent in Texas. Killed graveyard dead.
Posted by: Ripley
Same day shipping to Jesus.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:11 PM (erzCX)
*golfclap*
Posted by: Ripley
Same day shipping to Jesus.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:11 PM (erzCX)
*golfclap*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (bss/y)
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Epstein committed suicide instead of being murdered
Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (viF8m)
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At Live Science: "Scientists zapped students' brains with electricity to improve their math learning"
Scientist: 'It didn't have a hope in hell of working, but DAMN it was fun to watch!'
Posted by: Rolling Donut
Taser! Taser! Taser! Zaaaaaap!
Scientist: 'It didn't have a hope in hell of working, but DAMN it was fun to watch!'
Posted by: Rolling Donut
Taser! Taser! Taser! Zaaaaaap!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (erzCX)
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As do I. My point is that if you keep bothering people with stuff that isn't that important, eventually they tune you out, and then miss the important stuff. They need to use some judgement.
oh
we rarely get them. when I do I look at the sky to see if it's a tornado sky. When the last alert came, it was an OH SHIT kind of sky. I scrambled to get all the plants off my upstairs deck, since they would to airborne, and the moment I shut the sliding door behind me all hell broke loose. It only lasted about 5 minutes, but that was enough time to do some damage.
oh
we rarely get them. when I do I look at the sky to see if it's a tornado sky. When the last alert came, it was an OH SHIT kind of sky. I scrambled to get all the plants off my upstairs deck, since they would to airborne, and the moment I shut the sliding door behind me all hell broke loose. It only lasted about 5 minutes, but that was enough time to do some damage.
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (dCxaZ)
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Like Generalissimo Francisco Franco, he's still dead.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (NFX2v)
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The "Epstein files" were always complete bullshit designed to whitewash rather than incriminate.
Anything damning to anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell is long long long gone. Anyone hoping to the contrary is somewhere between admirably optimistic and pathologically delusional.
It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
Is exactly what someone whose name figures prominently in the Epstein files would say.
Anything damning to anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell is long long long gone. Anyone hoping to the contrary is somewhere between admirably optimistic and pathologically delusional.
It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
Is exactly what someone whose name figures prominently in the Epstein files would say.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (Riz8t)
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298 I'm basically coming around to the idea that they're kaiboshing the Epstein shit because they realized that the entire edifice of government and culture would collapse in a orgy of tar and feathers if it ever actually got released, and America and half the other nations on Earth would effectively cease to exist, plunging the entire world into colander-facemask times.
A one-sided MAD doctrine for perverts, basically.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (VoAdT)
I am still not seeing a downside. Looking at the government skeptically is not a bad thing.
A one-sided MAD doctrine for perverts, basically.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (VoAdT)
I am still not seeing a downside. Looking at the government skeptically is not a bad thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:13 PM (bss/y)
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Oh, I have no doubt that it will increase the debt. But not by as much as the CBO's accounting tricks claim. And even they are really hazy on it because nobody can really predict even close to exactly.
But... if it works the way Trump intends, it might be pretty minor because he's trying to supercharge the economy and he's greatly increasing revenues through tariffs. Its interesting to watch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (dfIr7)
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I don't think the CBO factored in Tariff revenue which could be significant.
But... if it works the way Trump intends, it might be pretty minor because he's trying to supercharge the economy and he's greatly increasing revenues through tariffs. Its interesting to watch.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (dfIr7)
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I don't think the CBO factored in Tariff revenue which could be significant.
Posted by: WisRich at July 07, 2025 12:13 PM (G0vdT)
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He keeps yapping about a "centrist" party by which I think he means "lower taxes and social liberalism"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (dfIr7)
Which translates to lower taxes and increased social spending. Which translates to lower taxes and increased spending. Which translates to increased taxes or debt. Which translates to Democrat.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (dfIr7)
Which translates to lower taxes and increased social spending. Which translates to lower taxes and increased spending. Which translates to increased taxes or debt. Which translates to Democrat.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:13 PM (ExV1e)
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304 LOL
Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at July 07, 2025 12:14 PM (K+rHH)
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242 I got a warning on all my phones last week for an adult woman they thought might be in danger but the warning said do not approach under any circumstances.
Odd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
'hic'
Odd.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
'hic'
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 07, 2025 12:14 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Poker Game in Hell at July 07, 2025 12:14 PM (2ocoG)
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Shooter has attacked Border Patrol agent in Texas. Killed graveyard dead.
Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM
Folded like KelTec beach plastic. Well done.
Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM
Folded like KelTec beach plastic. Well done.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 12:14 PM (dPfyF)
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Shooter has attacked Border Patrol agent in Texas. Killed graveyard dead.
Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM
Expect the Democrats to activate more and more of their zombies.
Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 12:08 PM
Expect the Democrats to activate more and more of their zombies.
Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (jc0TO)
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"I'm going to be a martyr for a cause! People will remember my deeds and my name for centuries!"
*gets shot before can do anything*
*gets shot before can do anything*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (GBKbO)
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>>>My point is that if you keep bothering people with stuff that isn't that important, eventually they tune you out, and then miss the important stuff. They need to use some judgement.
Same with 2A/self-defense and self-advocacy for medical treatment. You farm out your personal self regard to someone else and you risk being disappointed or morted.
Same with 2A/self-defense and self-advocacy for medical treatment. You farm out your personal self regard to someone else and you risk being disappointed or morted.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (i24o9)
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@294
>>It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
No, they have to come out and say point blank, what Epstein was and what his value to the system was.
Right now, Bondi, Kash and Bongino have no credibility with anything they say about any subject until they come clean and tell us the truth.
Right now they look like a bunch of out of their depths clowns.
>>It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
No, they have to come out and say point blank, what Epstein was and what his value to the system was.
Right now, Bondi, Kash and Bongino have no credibility with anything they say about any subject until they come clean and tell us the truth.
Right now they look like a bunch of out of their depths clowns.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (XV/Pl)
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El Nino was 30 years ago. Then the changed it to la nina which was the lower key, faker and gay version./i]
No they are both there, still. They both describe cyclic weather events caused by oceanic currents.
Shooter has attacked Border Patrol agent in Texas. Killed graveyard dead.
He was all dressed up in black tacticool stuff like he's in a shooter game
No they are both there, still. They both describe cyclic weather events caused by oceanic currents.
Shooter has attacked Border Patrol agent in Texas. Killed graveyard dead.
He was all dressed up in black tacticool stuff like he's in a shooter game
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (dfIr7)
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VOTE VANCE!
Posted by: Sid at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (4X30M)
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The "Epstein files" were always complete bullshit designed to whitewash rather than incriminate.
Anything damning to anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell is long long long gone. Anyone hoping to the contrary is somewhere between admirably optimistic and pathologically delusional.
It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
Is exactly what someone whose name figures prominently in the Epstein files would say.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (Riz8t)
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You got me. I sourced the baby oil. Oh wait -- wrong scandal.
Anything damning to anyone other than Epstein and Maxwell is long long long gone. Anyone hoping to the contrary is somewhere between admirably optimistic and pathologically delusional.
It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
Is exactly what someone whose name figures prominently in the Epstein files would say.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (Riz8t)
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You got me. I sourced the baby oil. Oh wait -- wrong scandal.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:16 PM (iFTx/)
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That's a lot of land to cover with warning sirens and very few people to pay for it.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (erzCX)
Particularly to get people who already know where the danger areas are to pay for it. Maybe what needs to happen is increased (state) government oversight, particularly for youth camps on the Guadalupe River, which has a history of flooding.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 11:44 AM (erzCX)
Particularly to get people who already know where the danger areas are to pay for it. Maybe what needs to happen is increased (state) government oversight, particularly for youth camps on the Guadalupe River, which has a history of flooding.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 12:16 PM (ExV1e)
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dagnabbit some days it doesn't pay to try to use tags
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:16 PM (dfIr7)
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317 Just in time for Texas residents who deny climate change to be punished.
do al little research on what happened to Galveston TX, circa 1900
before the internal combustion engine was born
do al little research on what happened to Galveston TX, circa 1900
before the internal combustion engine was born
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:16 PM (dCxaZ)
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Epstein committed suicide instead of being murdered
Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (viF8m)
Which still leaves; how was he *allowed* to commit suicide?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 07, 2025 12:12 PM (viF8m)
Which still leaves; how was he *allowed* to commit suicide?
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (lFFaq)
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@294
>>It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
No, they have to come out and say point blank, what Epstein was and what his value to the system was.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (XV/Pl)
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Good luck with that, bruh
>>It's time we put the whole sordid mess to its stinky smelly bed and move on to issues and fights we could actually win.
No, they have to come out and say point blank, what Epstein was and what his value to the system was.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 07, 2025 12:15 PM (XV/Pl)
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Good luck with that, bruh
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (iFTx/)
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282 276 JJ linked an article last week postulating that Oswald was trying to kill Connelly, not JFK.
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (77rzZ)
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I postulate that Oswald was trying to kill James T. Kirk, but the time travel he had just experienced confused and disorientated him.
Prove me wrong.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
The Cigarette Man killed JFK and MLK!! Did no one watch that documentary series, The X-Files?
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 12:07 PM (77rzZ)
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I postulate that Oswald was trying to kill James T. Kirk, but the time travel he had just experienced confused and disorientated him.
Prove me wrong.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
The Cigarette Man killed JFK and MLK!! Did no one watch that documentary series, The X-Files?
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (sAmhv)
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320 dagnabbit some days it doesn't pay to try to use tags
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:16 PM (dfIr7)
Just keep all the close tags in your nic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:16 PM (dfIr7)
Just keep all the close tags in your nic.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (TJLr1)
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Right now, Bondi, Kash and Bongino have no credibility with anything they say about any subject until they come clean and tell us the truth.
Right now they look like a bunch of out of their depths clowns.
I agree, they need to get in front of this and start to pound the news with releases and data. That folder thing was a disaster, just stupid. Phase one, of what?? Every one of them would be screaming for the FBI to be shut down right now if they weren't in charge.
Right now they look like a bunch of out of their depths clowns.
I agree, they need to get in front of this and start to pound the news with releases and data. That folder thing was a disaster, just stupid. Phase one, of what?? Every one of them would be screaming for the FBI to be shut down right now if they weren't in charge.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (dfIr7)
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I am still not seeing a downside. Looking at the government skeptically is not a bad thing.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:13 PM (bss/y)
I do think the idea gives people, especially Americans, short shrift. Every politician is a pervert? Well then ride every politician out of town on a rail. Big whoop. We'll be fine.
But "Every Politician" thinks it would be the literal end of civilization if they were ever rode out of town on a rail.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:13 PM (bss/y)
I do think the idea gives people, especially Americans, short shrift. Every politician is a pervert? Well then ride every politician out of town on a rail. Big whoop. We'll be fine.
But "Every Politician" thinks it would be the literal end of civilization if they were ever rode out of town on a rail.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (VoAdT)
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I read the story. It was good.
All I will say about talking to cons is that if you are in a place where it is safe to talk to a citizen, it is generally safe to talk to a con.
Granted, if you start getting bad feelings or vibes, listen to them. Don't stick around in a place if you get the feeling someone is looking to move on you.
All I will say about talking to cons is that if you are in a place where it is safe to talk to a citizen, it is generally safe to talk to a con.
Granted, if you start getting bad feelings or vibes, listen to them. Don't stick around in a place if you get the feeling someone is looking to move on you.
Posted by: EFG at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM (BJg+D)
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My point is that if you keep bothering people with stuff that isn't that important, eventually they tune you out, and then miss the important stuff. They need to use some judgement.
Yeah. Around 2015, NWS's default communication mode switched to "everything is the worst thing that ever happened". You can often find out it's actually not by just reading the actual text of the watch/warning but many people just read the headline.
Yeah. Around 2015, NWS's default communication mode switched to "everything is the worst thing that ever happened". You can often find out it's actually not by just reading the actual text of the watch/warning but many people just read the headline.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM (2ocoG)
330
lol at the stealth edit!
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM (uWKK8)
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Always good to be reminded of Sid's care and love for his fellow humans.
Hey, fucktard, maybe wait until they have found all the dead bodies first, you fucking shitstick. That way, you can get an accurate count of what all Trump is solely responsible for.
Jackass.
Hey, fucktard, maybe wait until they have found all the dead bodies first, you fucking shitstick. That way, you can get an accurate count of what all Trump is solely responsible for.
Jackass.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM (bss/y)
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>>>Maybe what needs to happen is increased (state) government oversight, particularly for youth camps on the Guadalupe River, which has a history of flooding leave me the F alone and MYOFB.
Better.
Better.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM (i24o9)
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The ghoulish delight at the deaths in Texas remind me why I stopped being a leftist all those years ago.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM (svLOV)
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hahaha
the mods are too quick for us
i replied to sid, included his quote so everyone knows how uneducated "he" is
the mods are too quick for us
i replied to sid, included his quote so everyone knows how uneducated "he" is
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (dCxaZ)
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But "Every Politician" thinks it would be the literal end of civilization if they were ever rode out of town on a rail.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (VoAdT)
That is precisely why they need to be run out of town on a rail or put six feet under.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 07, 2025 12:17 PM (VoAdT)
That is precisely why they need to be run out of town on a rail or put six feet under.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (bss/y)
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I get regular weather alerts and they're so broad - as in, 10 or 15 counties - as to be useless to my immediate situation.
I get regular weather alerts and they're so broad - as in, 10 or 15 counties - as to be useless to my immediate situation.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (/HVsR)
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off rancid 'will never be President' sock
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (sAmhv)
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334 hahaha
the mods are too quick for us
i replied to sid, included his quote so everyone knows how uneducated "he" is
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (dCxaZ)
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Please don't quote the trolls.
Attention is what they want. Don't give it to them.
the mods are too quick for us
i replied to sid, included his quote so everyone knows how uneducated "he" is
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (dCxaZ)
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Please don't quote the trolls.
Attention is what they want. Don't give it to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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Maybe Massie is just a highly principled person.
Posted by: ... at July 07, 2025 12:20 PM (VPwHp)
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:20 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: man at July 07, 2025 12:20 PM (tubbA)
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The NWS issues "Watches" and "Warnings."
People that can't distinguish between those are low info.
People that can't distinguish between those are low info.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (Q4IgG)
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Maybe Massie is just a highly principled person.
Even if he is, that doesn't make him any good at carrying out his principles.
Even if he is, that doesn't make him any good at carrying out his principles.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dfIr7)
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Please don't quote the trolls.
Attention is what they want. Don't give it to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
oh NOW look who all of a sudden thinks he is the boss of me!!
Attention is what they want. Don't give it to them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
oh NOW look who all of a sudden thinks he is the boss of me!!
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)
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Missed the ghoulish Sid using the bodies of children as a political weapon. 'Vote Vance' is a nice touch though! LOL!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (sAmhv)
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oh NOW look who all of a sudden thinks he is the boss of me!!
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)
He knows about attention whoring from the Prometheus schtick.
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)
He knows about attention whoring from the Prometheus schtick.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM (bss/y)
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I suspect that it's not CAFE that killed the Hilux in the US but various other "safety" features.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:19 AM (ExV1e)
Nope, it was the CAFE penalties due to being a truck under the minimum footprint, and unable to meet impossible mileage requirements. They could build them just dandy, but they would be forced to cover the fines, which were around 1/2 the cost of manufacturing. It is cheaper to buy something the size of a 1970's F350
Oh, and Hilux are diesel and we are INFORMED that diesel is the devil's spit.
anyhow, the Hilux are not that great, the better trucks are the Nissan Frontier sold in South America, or the Toyota Land Cruiser pickups which are the bomb
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 07, 2025 11:19 AM (ExV1e)
Nope, it was the CAFE penalties due to being a truck under the minimum footprint, and unable to meet impossible mileage requirements. They could build them just dandy, but they would be forced to cover the fines, which were around 1/2 the cost of manufacturing. It is cheaper to buy something the size of a 1970's F350
Oh, and Hilux are diesel and we are INFORMED that diesel is the devil's spit.
anyhow, the Hilux are not that great, the better trucks are the Nissan Frontier sold in South America, or the Toyota Land Cruiser pickups which are the bomb
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM (D7oie)
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344 oh NOW look who all of a sudden thinks he is the boss of me!!
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)
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The correct response is:
YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!
Please report to your supervisor for follow up training.
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)
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The correct response is:
YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!
Please report to your supervisor for follow up training.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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346 oh NOW look who all of a sudden thinks he is the boss of me!!
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)
He knows about attention whoring from the Prometheus schtick.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM (bss/y)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (dCxaZ)
He knows about attention whoring from the Prometheus schtick.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM (bss/y)
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Yeah. Around 2015, NWS's default communication mode switched to "everything is the worst thing that ever happened". You can often find out it's actually not by just reading the actual text of the watch/warning but many people just read the headline.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM
As a state employee, I get constant "alerts" that are nothingburgers amounting to "seasonal weather is happening" or "it's going to rain". What would I do without these people....?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 07, 2025 12:18 PM
As a state employee, I get constant "alerts" that are nothingburgers amounting to "seasonal weather is happening" or "it's going to rain". What would I do without these people....?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (dPfyF)
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Missed the ghoulish Sid using the bodies of children as a political weapon. 'Vote Vance' is a nice touch though! LOL!
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (sAmhv)
IT takes a seriously sick progressive to stand on a pile of dead children and claim that is the moral high-ground.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 07, 2025 12:21 PM (sAmhv)
IT takes a seriously sick progressive to stand on a pile of dead children and claim that is the moral high-ground.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)
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I get regular weather alerts and they're so broad - as in, 10 or 15 counties - as to be useless to my immediate situation.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Now receive them at 3:00 or 3:30 am a dozen times in a two week period and see how long you go before turning them off.
I used to get Amber Alerts. From Houston. I'm a half mile from the Red River.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Now receive them at 3:00 or 3:30 am a dozen times in a two week period and see how long you go before turning them off.
I used to get Amber Alerts. From Houston. I'm a half mile from the Red River.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (erzCX)
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Wait, I thought diesel was the one true fuel? Or was that 20 years ago and the 'turbodiesel' craze?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (bss/y)
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Maybe the NWS could “harbingers” to its list. Or “premonitions.”
Posted by: Bulg at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (77rzZ)
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I died in the last atmospheric river event."
Sigh. I never made it past net neutrality...
Posted by: man
It was the polar cyclones that did me in.
Sigh. I never made it past net neutrality...
Posted by: man
It was the polar cyclones that did me in.
Posted by: Ripley at July 07, 2025 12:24 PM (GUOwU)
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He knows about attention whoring from the Prometheus schtick.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM
What a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:22 PM
What a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: toby928 at July 07, 2025 12:24 PM (jc0TO)
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IT takes a seriously sick progressive to stand on a pile of dead children and claim that is the moral high-ground.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)
It is all over the place. Object lessons in why I hate people.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)
It is all over the place. Object lessons in why I hate people.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:24 PM (bss/y)
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Nood. Commies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 07, 2025 12:24 PM (bss/y)
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sis does not care about US children, just about children of MS-13, Tren de Aragua and other criminals.
Posted by: runner at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (g47mK)
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nood
Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (K+rHH)
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Oh, and Hilux are diesel and we are INFORMED that diesel is the devil's spit.
Except most of the world, and almost every turd world country runs on diesel.
Except most of the world, and almost every turd world country runs on diesel.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (erzCX)
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Around 2015, NWS's default communication mode switched to "everything is the worst thing that ever happened"
It was 2010. A number of "science" oriented government groups & agencies rather suddenly began to self regulate to a particular view (one of the most egregious was the "official" figures used in calculating BTUs in fuels. Lead to rather odd mpg/evmpg numbers).
Wonder why...hmmm.
It was 2010. A number of "science" oriented government groups & agencies rather suddenly began to self regulate to a particular view (one of the most egregious was the "official" figures used in calculating BTUs in fuels. Lead to rather odd mpg/evmpg numbers).
Wonder why...hmmm.
Posted by: man at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (tubbA)
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CAFE standards (in a very abbreviated form) direct that car manufacturers manufacture automobiles to meet specific goals for fuel efficiency as an average for all the vehicles manufactured - originally in the 70's when it started that meant "some econoboxes and the rest not so bad" with some vehicles excluded like trucks based on being larger than the minimum "foot print" calculated by width and length. Since the 70's the gas mileage goal has gotten progressively higher, and the footprint larger, which means cars have gotten smaller and lighter to try to meet those requirements, and trucks have gotten enormous to get around the standards by exceeding the footprint limits. Since EVs are outside of this they are promoted, and trucks that are large enough become King cabs with passenger seats in the back to replace the family sedan my grandparents could buy.
In the 90's a Toyota Tacoma was a small, sporty pickup with a 6' bed. Today it is a truck the size of a 1970's Ford F350 and it still has a 6' bed to avoid those penalties
The fines (SEC. 40006. CORPORATE AVERAGE FUEL ECONOMY CIVIL PENALTIES.) have been reduced to ZERO
In the 90's a Toyota Tacoma was a small, sporty pickup with a 6' bed. Today it is a truck the size of a 1970's Ford F350 and it still has a 6' bed to avoid those penalties
The fines (SEC. 40006. CORPORATE AVERAGE FUEL ECONOMY CIVIL PENALTIES.) have been reduced to ZERO
Posted by: Kindltot at July 07, 2025 12:25 PM (D7oie)
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i love eating my shit pebbles
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 07, 2025 12:26 PM (2APe7)
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IT takes a seriously sick progressive to stand on a pile of dead children and claim that is the moral high-ground.
Don't look up what lunatic scumbag Destiny said
Don't look up what lunatic scumbag Destiny said
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 07, 2025 12:26 PM (dfIr7)
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more shit pebbles yum
Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 07, 2025 12:28 PM (2APe7)
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If only technology existed to allow the user to receive only the types of alerts they desired and when issued for only for one locale.
Oh, wait…
Oh, wait…
Posted by: one hour sober at July 07, 2025 12:28 PM (Y1sOo)
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57 The Fox News site just wants my email info to read a number of their articles. Not going to do it. They started this a year ago where you were restricted from almost all the articles. Now it’s just a few. I think they saw the readership go way down.
Posted by: polynikes
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They make money selling your information.
Some of them drill deep, Walmart and Kroger comes to mind.
Posted by: polynikes
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They make money selling your information.
Some of them drill deep, Walmart and Kroger comes to mind.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 07, 2025 12:29 PM (57fs2)
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New Terrible Thread Up
Posted by: kallisto at July 07, 2025 12:29 PM (dCxaZ)
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Can we start importing the Toyota Hilux now?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (ZVgZ4)
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In the 90's a Toyota Tacoma was a small, sporty pickup with a 6' bed. Today it is a truck the size of a 1970's Ford F350 and it still has a 6' bed to avoid those penalties
The fines (SEC. 40006. CORPORATE AVERAGE FUEL ECONOMY CIVIL PENALTIES.) have been reduced to ZERO
Posted by: Kindltot
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New Ford Ranger is almost as big as a 2000 F-150.
just a smidgen
The fines (SEC. 40006. CORPORATE AVERAGE FUEL ECONOMY CIVIL PENALTIES.) have been reduced to ZERO
Posted by: Kindltot
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New Ford Ranger is almost as big as a 2000 F-150.
just a smidgen
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 07, 2025 12:32 PM (57fs2)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 07, 2025 12:35 PM (ZVgZ4)
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Cell phone reception in that rural area of Texas is described as iffy. Besides the fact that flash flood warnings were at 4am when most people were sleeping. I doubt even radio signals would have came in very clear assuming anyone would have been listening to a radio at that time of morning.
Posted by: Case at July 07, 2025 12:37 PM (ilX37)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 07, 2025 12:56 PM (/lPRQ)
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!!!!! See ya later, Gaia worshippers!!!!!
Posted by: Danimal28 at July 07, 2025 03:02 PM (1E4GV)
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Go pound sand Governor Nuisance we don't need your stupid Ban of Gasoline Cars we need Bans on Illegal Immagration
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 07, 2025 06:12 PM (wGqjj)
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