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THE MORNING RANT: Follow-Up to Post Regarding Reliance on Falsified Government Economic Data; Also ESG Investments Facing Major Outflows

My post this past Monday was titled “Why Do Intelligent People Continue to Rely on Government Data That is Known to Be False?” In it, I discussed the persistently false economic data published by the government, especially the Department of Labor’s inflation and jobs reports, and how intelligent(?) people in positions of authority “make critical decisions based on that data, even though there is a near certainty it will be revised to a less favorable report (or simply proven false) once the headlines become stale.”

Reader TGSam then sent the following from Jim Bianco to my attention, which shows that not only are the Department of Labor’s jobs reports not reliable, but the DOL doesn’t even really put any effort into producing their fraudulent weekly jobs report. It would appear that they pick a round number and just run with it for weeks on end.

Mr. Bianco points out the statistical improbability of there being exactly 212,000 claims for initial unemployment week after week. (The number is always rounded to the nearest thousand, but the likelihood of it being 212k every week is extremely improbable.) He writes:

Below is the number of initial filings for unemployment insurance. How is this statistically possible? Five of the last six weeks, the exact same number. Effectively the same number in the last 11 weeks, except for the holiday weeks (President's Day and Easter).

Consider, The US is a $28 trillion economy. It has 160 million workers. Initial claims for unemployment insurance are state programs, with 50 state rules, hundreds of offices, and 50 websites to file. Weather, seasonality, holidays, and economic vibrations drive the number of people filing claims from week to week. Yet this measure is so stable that it does not vary by even 1,000 applications a week. Just the number of applications incorrectly filled out every week should cause it to vary more than this.

A little digging shows that the Department of Labor intentionally empowers it employees to work some statistical magic on the actual (“unadjusted” jobs figures they have compiled. At the link where the DOL issues its weekly press release announcing the number of new unemployment filings, there is this explanation for the “seasonal adjustment” that has been administered:

C. Seasonal Adjustments and Annual Revisions
Over the course of a year, the weekly changes in the levels of initial claims and continued claims undergo regularly occurring fluctuations. These fluctuations may result from seasonal changes in weather, major holidays, the opening and closing of schools, or other similar events. Because these seasonal events follow a more or less regular pattern each year, their influence on the level of a series can be tempered by adjusting for regular seasonal variation. These adjustments make trend and cycle developments easier to spot. At the beginning of each calendar year, the Bureau of Labor Statistics provides the Employment and Training Administration (ETA) with a set of seasonal factors to apply to the unadjusted data during that year. Concurrent with the implementation and release of the new seasonal factors, ETA incorporates revisions to the UI claims historical series caused by updates to the unadjusted data.

As I dove into that website, I saw that the “seasonal adjustment” is actually done every single week, bringing the initial filing report back to the boilerplate 212k number that is constantly being reported.

But again, to Mr. Bianco’s point, even if the seasonal adjustment is done weekly using some mathematical formula that is applied to the unadjusted number, then there should still be some variance from 212k.

It seems rather clear that the “adjusted” figure is just a number pulled out of the air by a DOL employee who can’t be bothered to spend 5 minutes coming up with a new phony number to replace the prior week’s phony number.

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Related - a gentleman named Don Harrison, with whom I’ve developed a friendship through mutual friends at the Heartland Institute, sent me the following note in response to the question “Why Do Intelligent People Continue to Rely on Government Data That is Known to Be False?” I found his note to be a terrific essay unto itself.

”I think intelligent people are so often wrong because they ARE intelligent, and because of how their intelligence has come to be nurtured and treated in our modern age. First, people with high IQs are now identified at an early age, and funneled into courses of study that focus on the use and manipulation of symbols, both verbal and mathematical. This gives them a very narrow understanding of the way the world works. In addition, they have been told from an early age how brilliant they are, which teaches them to prize their own thinking above all else. And when they do reach out for another opinion, they almost exclusively deal with people who have similar backgrounds. They have no conception of the implications of William Buckley’s statement that he “would rather be ruled by the first 2,000 people in the telephone directory than by the Harvard University faculty.” A large group of people will have a store of wisdom, intelligence and experience that a smaller coterie of the best and brightest cannot hope to match. The most distinguishing shortcoming of the intelligentsia is not near-sightedness, progressive politics or an addiction to Starbucks; it is hubris. They don’t know what they don’t know.

I am sure that part of the reason for Thomas Sowell’s true genius is a background that acquainted him with a wide slice of life and taught him humility. As I get older, I am very grateful that I grew up in circumstances that were in some ways similar to his. By the time I got out of high school, I had played sports, planted tobacco, acted in school plays, fished, captained the It’s Academic team, flipped burgers and won oratorical contests. Today a middle-class kid with an academic bent has a tightly overseen routine with no opportunity to get his hands dirty. My tobacco planting, fishing and burger flipping would have no place in his life. All the managers when I worked at McDonalds were former NCOs. You learn things from a Marine with a scar from the corner of his mouth to his ear that he got from a North Korean bayonet in the retreat from the Chosin Reservoir that you can’t pick up in a classroom.

Bottom line: high IQs that are nurtured without an acquaintance with a breadth of experience result in a kind of sterile, and dangerous, stupidity.”

Thank you, Don. Interestingly, Mr. Harrison’s passion and area of expertise is anti-ESG investing. He was a featured guest last month with Jim Lakely and the Heartland gang on their weekly “Climate Realism” broadcast, discussing the topic of “Is ESG on the Outs?” which can be seen at this link if you’re so inclined.

Coincidentally, this heartwarming story about the backlash to ESG investing was just published yesterday:

“US Fund Managers With ESG Mandates Have Worst-Ever Outflows” [Bloomberg – 4/25/2024]

US fund managers suffered their worst-ever quarter for ESG-focused products as the pace of client redemptions intensified. Client withdrawals from US funds targeting environmental, social and governance goals reached $8.8 billion in the first three months of 2024, according to fresh data compiled by Morningstar Inc.

The scale of redemptions from US ESG funds dragged down global inflows, which were a modest $900 million in the first quarter, Morningstar said.

Victory in the culture wars will not occur in Congress, or in the courts, or most anywhere at the federal level. But we can deliver resounding blows to the left in local elections and in how we use our money.

“Sustainable funds have been facing many headwinds in the past couple of years, including elevated energy prices, high interest rates and an ESG backlash in the US,” said Hortense Bioy, global director of sustainability research at Morningstar.

Millions of us using our wallets as weapons are having an impact and causing pain to the woke left. Don’t let up.

Have a great weekend.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM




Comments

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1 1st?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 26, 2024 11:00 AM (9yWhg)

2 People are retarded. News at 11.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:01 AM (di6C2)

3 First?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 26, 2024 11:01 AM (J2vNu)

4 Look into the BLS unemployment stats. Some of those numbers have not changed in six weeks. That is statistically impossible.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:02 AM (lTGtQ)

5 Because these seasonal events follow a more or less regular pattern each year, their influence on the level of a series can be tempered by adjusting for regular seasonal variation.

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Ah yes. The Science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:02 AM (9Ct69)

6 Willowed: Two Mules for Sister Sarah. He had her cut a notch in the arrow shaft, fill it with gun powder, then light the powder as he had her shove it all the way through to cauterize his wound.
Posted by: BifBewalski at April 26, 2024


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And Grit cuts it every time they run the movie, so you don't actually see the arrow go through. I saw the movie when it was new, and my date and I were both amazed at how they showed it. Grit cuts it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 26, 2024 11:03 AM (J2vNu)

7 I alerted the otters.

And this looks an awful lot like math.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 26, 2024 11:03 AM (T+Iwg)

8 Statistics are fungible.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 26, 2024 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

9 They are also counting people with multiple jobs as multiple people, in order to fudge the unemployment rate.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:04 AM (lTGtQ)

10 I had a seasonally adjusted BM this morning. Results were up 14% over last weeks numbers!

Posted by: Brown's Septic Service at April 26, 2024 11:06 AM (V5BDR)

11 C. Seasonal Adjustments and Annual Revisions Over the course of a year, the weekly changes in the levels of initial claims and continued claims undergo regularly occurring fluctuations. These fluctuations may result from seasonal changes in weather, major holidays, the opening and closing of schools, or other similar events. Because these seasonal events follow a more or less regular pattern each year, their influence on the level of a series can be tempered by adjusting for regular seasonal variation. These adjustments make trend and cycle developments easier to spot.

Dudes. The key to successful fudging is to keep it plausible.

Posted by: Climate change gurus at April 26, 2024 11:06 AM (CsUN+)

12 “Sustainable funds have been facing many headwinds in the past couple of years, including elevated energy prices, high interest rates and an ESG backlash in the US,” said Hortense Bioy, global director of sustainability research at Morningstar.

In the same sense that the stock market in December 1929 faced headwinds.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 26, 2024 11:07 AM (CsUN+)

13 “Why Do Intelligent People Continue to Rely on Government Data That is Known to Be False?”

I wouldn't call them intelligent.

Posted by: sidney at April 26, 2024 11:08 AM (Uy/WF)

14 Seems the BLS and Hamas have the same problem with naturally occuring numbers.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2024 11:08 AM (2UnvF)

15 >>Mr. Bianco points out the statistical improbability of there being exactly 212,000 claims for initial unemployment week after week.


How is that possible?

"Gee, we have no idea!"
-- The 11 million illegal immigrants in U.S. stat that has been touted for decades

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2024 11:08 AM (cCVOS)

16 Statistics are fungible.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


89.7% of statistics are made up.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 26, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

17 Buck's friend is describing the difference between intellect and wisdom...and very nicely.

Posted by: Boswell at April 26, 2024 11:09 AM (K+UlC)

18 Not only are the liars, they are incompetent liars.

SADLY, they apparently don't need competence to make the lies stick. Just power.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 26, 2024 11:10 AM (JMAcK)

19 Mr. Bianco points out the statistical improbability of there being exactly 212,000 claims for initial unemployment week after week.


We strive for consistency. You're welcome.

Posted by: BLS at April 26, 2024 11:10 AM (CsUN+)

20 "Gee, we have no idea!"

-- The 11 million illegal immigrants in U.S. stat that has been touted for decades

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2024 11:08 AM (cCVOS)

At least since Reagan...so...44 years?

Posted by: BignJames at April 26, 2024 11:11 AM (AwYPR)

21 Statistics are fungible.
Posted by: Martini Farmer


89.7% of statistics are made up.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


83% of them are made up on the spot.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2024 11:11 AM (0hu/3)

22 Raise your hands if you could turn this work product in to your employer and no one visit you?

Posted by: Piper at April 26, 2024 11:11 AM (ZdaMQ)

23 How is this statistically possible?

Five of the last six weeks, the exact same number.

Effectively the same number in the last 11 weeks, except for the holiday weeks (President's Day and Easter).

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Old & Busted: "That would be in the butt, Bob!"
New Hotness: "That would be out of our ass, Buck!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 11:11 AM (8FmJd)

24 Commenting present and fighting off ads to do that

Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2024 11:12 AM (kGLb6)

25 Jobs are a bummer anyway, man. My crazy check keeps me in dope and candy bars.

Posted by: Layabout Lenny at April 26, 2024 11:12 AM (V5BDR)

26 exactly 212,000 claims for initial unemployment week after wee

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I would bet big money - like house down payment money - that 212K number has some significance to Our Betters and is used on purpose, same as Earth Day being April 22.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:13 AM (9Ct69)

27 Bottom line: high IQs that are nurtured without an acquaintance with a breadth of experience result in a kind of sterile, and dangerous, stupidity.”

aka hothouse flowers

Posted by: Archimedes at April 26, 2024 11:13 AM (CsUN+)

28 >>Not only are the liars, they are incompetent liars.


Reminds of the stray voltage or "f#ck you" liar Obama: he would tell lies that were so obviously lies because he wanted to piss people off. He no doubt delighted in it, he did it so often.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2024 11:13 AM (cCVOS)

29 A little digging shows that the Department of Labor intentionally empowers it employees to work some statistical magic on the actual (“unadjusted” jobs figures they have compiled.



If I recall correctly, the person in charge of BLS stats is a DEI hire, whose claim to fame is decrying how many white males are allowed to be in the marketplace.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:14 AM (lTGtQ)

30 You know what is really sad? The government can’t even get lying about numbers right. Odd numbers are more believable than even.

Posted by: Piper at April 26, 2024 11:14 AM (ZdaMQ)

31 High iq people can convince themselves there are more than two genders will simultaneously defining all the myriad genders as variants of the only two known genders.

Smaht! Like wicked Havahd smaht!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 26, 2024 11:14 AM (OiAR7)

32 It's fairly straightforward to use a random number generator to pick something within an acceptable range.

The DoL is too lazy to do even that much.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 26, 2024 11:15 AM (7fElN)

33 The thing about "seasonal adjustments" (whether valid or not) is that they should adjust the raw number up or down by a constant factor that is itself derived by tracking, over many years, of how the raw numbers themselves change seasonally.

So if your output number is unchanged for weeks at a time, it follows that the raw number is unchanged for weeks at a time, which is really, really unlikely. BLS is doing Hamas casualty accounting here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 11:15 AM (8zz6B)

34 And this looks an awful lot like math.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 26, 2024 11:03 AM (T+Iwg)



Trust me, no math was involved

Posted by: Dept of Labor at April 26, 2024 11:15 AM (+uHnC)

35 He no doubt delighted in it

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This.

It's like the 4Channers getting black athletes and lefty celebrities to buy crypto with clear racist and Nazi symbols.

The joke is for the insiders. They only want to be amused.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:15 AM (9Ct69)

36 Possible Lefty meltdown incoming-

This is beyond sick. Kristi Noem shot and killed the family's 14-month puppy because it couldn't be trained as a hunting dog...Noem recalled in her book "No Going Back: The Truth on What’s Wrong with Politics and How We Move America Forward,"

'I hated that dog': Kristi Noem recalls gunning down family's 'worthless' pup. She then recounts how she killed one of her family's goats, a “nasty and mean" male that had not been castrated, by dragging him to the gravel pit, and afterward she realized a nearby construction crew had watched her slaughter both animals before her children were dropped off by a school bus.

Wow. What a piece of shit. And not too bright, either, since there are tons of republican & maga dog lovers, too.

The dog was "having the time of her life." Can't have that! The woman is insane, and shouldn't be in any public office - or public place, for that matter. Nobody's telling tales out of school, here - she's tooting her own horn. What the hell is wrong with South Dakota?

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 26, 2024 11:16 AM (ycI94)

37 Gubmint jobs are very attractive to folks who have no integrity.

Posted by: No One of Any Consequence at April 26, 2024 11:16 AM (VuZH8)

38 If you did that on your 1040 you would get an automatic audit but federal government so nothing.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 26, 2024 11:17 AM (17s+e)

39 I have to do long range projections all of the time, and there is money and jobs on the line.

If I were to turn in this kind of shoddy work, I would be fired, and rightfully so.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:17 AM (lTGtQ)

40 “Sustainable funds have been facing many headwinds in the past couple of years, including elevated energy prices, high interest rates and an ESG backlash in the US,” said Hortense Bioy, global director of sustainability research at Morningstar.
Millions of us using our wallets as weapons are having an impact and causing pain to the woke left. Don’t let up.

Have a great weekend.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM
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They'll just go back to being sneaky about it. Promoting your fund as ESG was to be just that, a promotion. You get people to feel good about using that icky capitalism as a force for change.
Now they'll just go back to not saying the quiet part out loud.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 26, 2024 11:18 AM (FCbAQ)

41
I would bet big money - like house down payment money - that 212K number has some significance to Our Betters and is used on purpose, same as Earth Day being April 22.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024


Area code of Washington, DC is my bet. I had to call there many a time during my working career.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 26, 2024 11:18 AM (RKVpM)

42 I would bet big money - like house down payment money - that 212K number has some significance to Our Betters and is used on purpose, same as Earth Day being April 22.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:13 AM (9Ct69)

210, 212 - whatever works

Posted by: Boswell at April 26, 2024 11:18 AM (K+UlC)

43 That number of initial filings for unemployment insurance?
They get those repetitive numbers because they have farmed out that work to Hamas, you know, the same ones that do monotonically adjusted casualty figures in Gaza.

Posted by: Ciampino - Pluck Yew Toots at April 26, 2024 11:19 AM (qfLjt)

44 And don't forget, greater precision is confused with accuracy.

212,342 one month. 202,876 the next. It's all b.s..

Posted by: No One of Any Consequence at April 26, 2024 11:19 AM (VuZH8)

45 Ok, ok. Boasting of killing a dog is kind of shit. At the same time, I suspect foul play.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:19 AM (di6C2)

46 I can't recall, but it seems to me the Bureau of Labor Statistics was one of those departments that was largely independent but was brought directly under the WH by Obama?

Kinda like he did with the Census?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 26, 2024 11:20 AM (yikga)

47 41 DC area code is 202.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 26, 2024 11:20 AM (9yWhg)

48 Thanks for another great writeup Buck.

Posted by: Inogame at April 26, 2024 11:20 AM (53oGX)

49 My father owned a used car lot, fairly successful at it too. He told me “Jimmy, the easiest people to fool are those that think they are smart.”

Never had any reason to doubt that wisdom.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at April 26, 2024 11:20 AM (17s+e)

50 The number is always rounded to the nearest thousand, but the likelihood of it being 212k every week is extremely improbable.

Put together by the same people who put together Hamas' claimed "casualty" figures.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 26, 2024 11:21 AM (YAtuc)

51 >> exactly 212,000 claims for initial unemployment week after week

Heh. Reminds of a business trip to Dubai in August. Freakin' hot! Asked a local how it was that workers could be out there building skyscrapers in that heat. She assured me that there is a regulation that no building can happen when it gets over 114f (or something close to that) -- she then paused, smiled, and said "and you know, it never gets over 114!"

Maybe 212k is an arbitrary ceiling value, and, say, if it gets over 212k then it triggers some market panic or whatever, so it just never gets over 212, wink wink wink!

*Obviously I'm not a financial person, but this is a political thing, the numbers being fudged.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2024 11:21 AM (cCVOS)

52 The premise of the issue assumes these are both intelligent AND objective people, and they're not. They might be intelligent but subjectively committed to Marxism and tearing down this country as founded, and the 'official' data is a tool towards that purpose and thus to be propagated, not challenged. That is why a truly 'intelligent' person would use the 'false' data. Then there's the unintelligent people raised in the ruling class bubble to think they're intelligent that's being discussed here, which is a different thing. I love the 'A Fish Called Wanda' line that applies here:

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WANDA: But you think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape?

OTTO: Apes don't read philosophy.

WANDA: Yes they do, Otto. They just don't understand it.

Posted by: bearski at April 26, 2024 11:21 AM (Bhsk7)

53 The Neo Nazi Dance Troop at Columbia do a Death To Jews Dance and some X smart asses put it to several other songs.

https://shorturl.at/atuNT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:22 AM (L/fGl)

54
DC area code is 202.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 26, 2024 11:20 AM


You're right. I guess I was dealing with some govmint entity out of New York.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 26, 2024 11:23 AM (RKVpM)

55 Sorry, pulling this in from last thread:

I'm not sure what a vampire facial is, but if it doesn't involve vag or anal penetration, then I'm calling b.s. on the notion it resulted in HIV transmission.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 10:35 AM (IKcSj)

Apparently needles in the face.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 10:36 AM (GBKbO)

Well there you go, then. That would do it. I did not see that one coming.

Apparently, that's what SHE said.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:23 AM (dGCAG)

56 49 My father owned a used car lot, fairly successful at it too. He told me “Jimmy, the easiest people to fool are those that think they are smart.”

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The Peggy Hill idiom

Posted by: Gaff at April 26, 2024 11:23 AM (jPS2y)

57 Well, I've never planted or harvested tobacco, or flipped burgers. But I worked as a telephone solicitor back in the last days of rotary dial phones, I've been a radio announcer and producer, I've changed oil and tires on my cars, driven a delivery van, programmed computers, and was on my high school "Prep Quiz Bowl" team on the local NBC outlet. Howzdat?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 26, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

58 53 The Neo Nazi Dance Troop at Columbia do a Death To Jews Dance and some X smart asses put it to several other songs.

https://shorturl.at/atuNT
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:22 AM (L/fGl)

What is with these people and drum circles and dances?

Second look at John Lithgow?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:23 AM (di6C2)

59 @41

>>Area code of Washington, DC is my bet. I had to call there many a time during my working career.

212 is a NYC area code for Manhattan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 26, 2024 11:24 AM (XV/Pl)

60 Ok, ok. Boasting of killing a dog is kind of shit. At the same time, I suspect foul play.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:19 AM (di6C2)

Well, according to DU, the claim that she killed the dog came from a book that she wrote. So it might not have been a "boast", just a recollection of a distasteful chore that she had to do. If the dog was vicious, and had bitten people, or other pets, shooting it might have been necessary.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 11:24 AM (8zz6B)

61 Are there alternative funds that avoid ESG when these fund managers go full retard and maintain their love for discrimination and indoctrination?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (jbnUc)

62 Dudes. The key to successful fudging is to keep it plausible.
Posted by: Climate change gurus at April 26, 2024 11:06 AM (CsUN+)

The key to a good lie is the oddly specific detail.

Posted by: Jeff Bingham at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (FCbAQ)

63 >>Wow. What a piece of shit. And not too bright, either, since there are tons of republican & maga dog lovers, too.


Well, at least she didn't eat it for dinner like TFG?

I will withhold judgement on Noem after how they demonized Romney about his dog (they make up sh#t), but yeah, shooting a dog sounds hideous.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (cCVOS)

64 Well, I've never planted or harvested tobacco, or flipped burgers. But I worked as a telephone solicitor back in the last days of rotary dial phones, I've been a radio announcer and producer, I've changed oil and tires on my cars, driven a delivery van, programmed computers, and was on my high school "Prep Quiz Bowl" team on the local NBC outlet. Howzdat?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


Wow. You've done almost as much stuff as Joe Biden.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (9yWhg)

65 I'm betting the dog bit a kid.

Unless the kid was tormenting it and the dog was letting it know to stop, I'd shoot one in a heartbeat if that was the case, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (9Ct69)

66 Reminds me of the TV series Chernobyl where they're reading an instrument that measures radiation exposure. Hmm, not great, but not horrible they said. Turns out the instrument was designed to only show exposure up to a certain level and then cut off.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (2UnvF)

67 I like that answer, regarding why smart people get things wrong. I think the word humility is important too.

If you've been conditioned to believe in your abilities, sometimes humility is an important function you're lacking. Hubris is another one. I can sit her and bullshit you, because I believe I'm smarter than you, even though I don't know what I'm talking about.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (dGCAG)

68 212 is a NYC area code.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (3ImbR)

69 Democracy dies in darkness.

Miranda Devine
@mirandadevine
Axios: Biden advisers are concerned that videos of Biden shuffling alone across the South Lawn to Marine One have highlighted his age. So now aides walk between him and the cameras.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:26 AM (L/fGl)

70 If I recall correctly, the person in charge of BLS stats is a DEI hire, whose claim to fame is decrying how many white males are allowed to be in the marketplace.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:14 AM (lTGtQ)

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"There's a final solution for that ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 11:26 AM (8FmJd)

71 Democracy dies in darkness.

Miranda Devine
@mirandadevine
Axios: Biden advisers are concerned that videos of Biden shuffling alone across the South Lawn to Marine One have highlighted his age. So now aides walk between him and the cameras.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:26 AM (L/fGl)

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"Where the f*ck is his jet pack?!?!?!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 11:27 AM (8FmJd)

72 Great topic, Buckster. I subscribe to The Free Press to keep tabs and provide feedback to their writers. These younger folks are beautiful writers, but have almost zero understanding of the subjects they write about.

Practical experience is a must; my story is probably like most here: started fixing all things mechanical with Pops, then dishwasher, then cook, then kitchen manager, US Army active duty in Germany with the Wall still up, bartender/cook/National Guard while in college, into industry raising three kids and a 30 marriage. Oh, and volunteer firefighter on the side.

Buckley's comment is sacrosanct with me. I trust folks that are furthest away from cities.

Posted by: Danimal28 at April 26, 2024 11:27 AM (klw0w)

73 Videos of staff needing to help guide Joe across the lawn is bound to help.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:28 AM (9Ct69)

74 10
‘ Results were up 14% over’

By volume or weight?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 26, 2024 11:28 AM (jbnUc)

75 Dang I was hoping Bucks thread would be a bout EVs. Anyway, if I may change the subject, I have noticed that nearly all Tesla's in my company's parking lot do not have the required front license plate. It's easy to count them because there's a special section so they queue for charging during the day. Out of the 37 I counted today, only 2! had the front plate. What gives!? And I'm not bummed about the special EV parking because we have a special section for trucks too, which is quite nice and spacious.

Posted by: Mishdog at April 26, 2024 11:28 AM (jiy+d)

76 Nice contradiction between fact and fact
Will make the whole read human and exact.
-- Robert Graves, "The Devil's Advice to Storytellers"

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 26, 2024 11:28 AM (9yWhg)

77 Your friend is mostly right, though I'd argue they're not that arrogant about their intelligence because their peers are all pretty similar to them, they tend to think of themselves as average. They are blind to what exists outside of their upbringings, but that's not inherently the same as hubris. A middle class kid would be different, those are the new generation college kids who were the smartest of wherever they were from. People from families who always went to college(back when college was rare) and whose friends did etc. do not have the concept of people who are much dumber than them really existing.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:29 AM (eYoxG)

78 I will withhold judgement on Noem after how they demonized Romney about his dog (they make up sh#t), but yeah, shooting a dog sounds hideous.
Posted by: Lizzy

Yeah, knowing the Left, they could be cherry picking excerpts and quotes from the book, but considering the overwhelming number of threads DU has on the subject, the salacious nature of the accusation, and how Noem is on the forefront of the culture war AND Trump’s VP list, it could blow up in media.

Just like Romney's dog, binders of women, hazing team mates, etc...

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 26, 2024 11:30 AM (ycI94)

79 Dylan Byers
@DylanByers
Scoop via @MattBelloni: Steven Spielberg “has been quietly but actively working with the Joe Biden campaign to help choreograph August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago. … participating in multiple strategy sessions on how to best tell the president’s story…”

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Don't worry, Steve. The Nazis will never turn on you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:30 AM (L/fGl)

80 Maybe 212k is an arbitrary ceiling value, and, say, if it gets over 212k then it triggers some market panic or whatever, so it just never gets over 212, wink wink wink!

*Obviously I'm not a financial person, but this is a political thing, the numbers being fudged.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2024 11:21 AM (cCVOS)

I'm sure that happens in all sorts of places. If you have some adverse affect that will result from the data showing this or that, you avoid the data showing this or that.

Part of this comes from underlings who don't want their bosses to come down on them for not fixing the problem, and instead making the bosses aware of something not being right.

There's a strong incentive for a LOT of people, not to let their bosses know what's wrong.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:31 AM (dGCAG)

81 But again, to Mr. Bianco’s point, even if the seasonal adjustment is done weekly using some mathematical formula that is applied to the unadjusted number, then there should still be some variance from 212k.
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Unless 212k is the goal and they adjust the model to reflect the goal.

Like Red China's GDP figures, for example. The Central Committee hands down a goal to the provinces from Beijing, who hand it down to the districts, who hand it down to the local.

The central Party bosses tell the leaders of Jiangsu province that their GDP goal is 8.2%, the Jiangsu Party bosses tell the rural division leaders that their goal is 6.5% and the urban division leaders that their goal is 9.5%, The division leaders tell the district leaders what *their* goals are, and expect results. Nanking's city leaders then spend a bunch of money on phony investments, auction land rights, hand out subsidies, line their own pockets, etc. and then invent a 10.1% growth figure to hand up to Xuanwu District bosses, who aggregate it and declare victory.

What was the real growth rate for Nanking or Xuanwu District or Jiangsu Province or Red China? Search me. But it hit the goal, and that's what matters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:31 AM (HnUIn)

82
Travis of the 'Babylon Bee' interviews Dr. Jordan Peterson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6IgyEYfLqw

/ 21 minutes - Jordan steals the show with dry wit

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 26, 2024 11:31 AM (RKVpM)

83 I still wouldn't vote for Noem.

NCAA stooge that she is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

84 Steven Spielberg “has been quietly but actively working with the Joe Biden campaign to help choreograph August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

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Well, he has experience with dinosaurs.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (2UnvF)

85 I don't know why, but this made me laugh:

University of Washington group cancels encampment for being too white
©INSTAGRAM / KIRO 7

Pro-Palestinian students at the University of Washington announced their plans to postpone what was supposed to be Thursday's Gaza solidarity encampment because too many white students were involved. The group in the Pacific Northwest had been criticized for failing to include enough Muslim and Arab students in the planning of the encampment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (XkYcA)

86 Just like Romney's dog, binders of women, hazing team mates, etc...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 26, 2024 11:30 AM (ycI94)

To be fair, Romney IS a giant tool.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (di6C2)

87 Are there alternative funds that avoid ESG when these fund managers go full retard and maintain their love for discrimination and indoctrination?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 26, 2024 11:25 AM (jbnUc)

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IIRC, Vivek created a group of ETFs via his Strive Asset Management startup.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (8FmJd)

88 The Credentialed are what I'd call "Education Envelope" people.

The scope and bounds of their knowledge are constrained by the dimensions of the Diploma which fit within said "Envelope".

And they darest NOT acquire, learn of, or Heaven Forbid SHOW INTEREST IN, most any "knowledge(s)" deriving from Outside of that Envelope.

That way lieth Heresies!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (e6UQI)

89 84 Steven Spielberg “has been quietly but actively working with the Joe Biden campaign to help choreograph August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

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Well, he has experience with dinosaurs.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (2UnvF)

And depicting Nazi activities.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (di6C2)

90 79 Dylan Byers
@DylanByers
Scoop via @MattBelloni: Steven Spielberg “has been quietly but actively working with the Joe Biden campaign to help choreograph August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago. … participating in multiple strategy sessions on how to best tell the president’s story…”

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Don't worry, Steve. The Nazis will never turn on you.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:30 AM (L/fGl)

It's aliens... gonna be aliens.

Posted by: Inogame at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (53oGX)

91 Bottom line: high IQs that are nurtured without an acquaintance with a breadth of experience result in a kind of sterile, and dangerous, stupidity.”
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Eh, it's more about being relieved of arrogance, I think.

"I am very smart and so I am cursed to know how much I don't know" and "I am very smart and so everyone should do as I say because I'm brilliant and these retards don't get it" are two sides of the same high-IQ coin.

The best way to learn how much you don't know is experience, but no amount of experience can break a dedication to the cause of hubris and its associated utopianism. To the highly-intelligent utopian, the failures are merely because the retards he's saddled with didn't do it right.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (HnUIn)

92 @83

>>NCAA stooge that she is.

Not quite sure why she thought writing about whacking family pets and farm animals was a good idea but apparently she did.

She still is a dime piece though.

WB.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (XV/Pl)

93 Just like Romney's dog, binders of women, hazing team mates, etc...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 26, 2024 11:30 AM (ycI94)

Kristi would have to shoot a metric fuckton of dogs to approach the number of pets unlawfully murdered by LE SWAT teams.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (8zz6B)

94 The Focus Group said it was the best number.

Posted by: The New New Math at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (z+89e)

95 Willowed:
The Wikipedia entry for Yew Tree mentions Great Tits.

Posted by: Ciampino - Pluck Yew Tootooties at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (qfLjt)

96 So Potato is out there making fun of Trump's "bleached hair." I find that quite humorous considering Joe Biden's face now looks like it's made entirely out of plastic, his teeth are fake Chiclets, and his head is full of hair plugs.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (mupln)

97 “Sustainable funds have been facing many headwinds in the past couple of years, including elevated energy prices, high interest rates and an ESG backlash in the US,” said Hortense Bioy, global director of sustainability research at Morningstar.
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I wonder if any of them consider *why* there is backlash. I doubt it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (HnUIn)

98 I don't know why, but this made me laugh:

University of Washington group cancels encampment for being too white
©INSTAGRAM / KIRO 7

Pro-Palestinian students at the University of Washington announced their plans to postpone what was supposed to be Thursday's Gaza solidarity encampment because too many white students were involved. The group in the Pacific Northwest had been criticized for failing to include enough Muslim and Arab students in the planning of the encampment.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (XkYcA)

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BLaMtifa by any other name would smell a foul ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (8FmJd)

99 Your friend is mostly right, though I'd argue they're not that arrogant about their intelligence because their peers are all pretty similar to them, they tend to think of themselves as average. They are blind to what exists outside of their upbringings, but that's not inherently the same as hubris. A middle class kid would be different, those are the new generation college kids who were the smartest of wherever they were from. People from families who always went to college(back when college was rare) and whose friends did etc. do not have the concept of people who are much dumber than them really existing.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:29 AM (eYoxG)

But these supposedly smart people tend to come into contact with the straights. Sure, among their peers they don't necessarily stand out (but they'll often stab each other in the back to try to do so), but when they interact with the rubes (think kollej perferssers and their students), they get to lord their superior intellect over the ants below.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (dGCAG)

100 92
Not quite sure why she thought writing about whacking family pets and farm animals was a good idea but apparently she did.

She still is a dime piece though.

WB.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (XV/Pl)

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If I had to guess: She's kind of stupid, has no real relationship with real people, and thought that it would humanize her to the conservative base.

Because she's kinda stupid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (GBKbO)

101 "How is this statistically possible? Five of the last six weeks, the exact same number."

Assuming it's not just made-up bullshit pulled out of some bureaucrat's monkeypoxed asshole, I wonder if the numbers are the same because that's the max that could be processed each month. So the numbers don't really represent the number of actual new claims filed, but the number of claims filed that could be processed in a month. Just spitballing here ...

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (iFTx/)

102 Willowed:
The Wikipedia entry for Yew Tree mentions Great Tits.

Posted by: Ciampino




Turn off your camera.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (lTGtQ)

103 Steven Spielberg “has been quietly but actively working with the Joe Biden campaign to help choreograph August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago. …

Choreograph? I guess Joe won't be participating in the Rockettes type kick line?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (XkYcA)

104 95 Willowed:
The Wikipedia entry for Yew Tree mentions Great Tits.
Posted by: Ciampino - Pluck Yew Tootooties at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (qfLjt)

'Murika!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:35 AM (di6C2)

105 93
Kristi would have to shoot a metric fuckton of dogs to approach the number of pets unlawfully murdered by LE SWAT teams.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (8zz6B)
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Or PETA.

Posted by: Ciampino - Pluck Yew Tootootie at April 26, 2024 11:35 AM (qfLjt)

106 @DylanByers
Scoop via @MattBelloni: Steven Spielberg “has been quietly but actively working with the Joe Biden campaign to help choreograph August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

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Fine.

Donation-wise, what individual amount are we talking?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:35 AM (9Ct69)

107 Mr. Michael Crichton lays it out nicely in a talk about the Gell-Mann amnesia effect. On youtube of course.

Hint: he is smarter than me.

Posted by: Disgusted at April 26, 2024 11:35 AM (Z8Yh2)

108 She still is a dime piece though.

WB.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 26, 2024 11:33 AM (XV/Pl)

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Bag of antlers. Pass.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 26, 2024 11:35 AM (2UnvF)

109 103 Steven Spielberg “has been quietly but actively working with the Joe Biden campaign to help choreograph August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago. …

Choreograph? I guess Joe won't be participating in the Rockettes type kick line?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (XkYcA)

Different type of Choreography, Fen. He wants to be Biden's Leni Riefenstahl.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:35 AM (di6C2)

110 ur friend is mostly right, though I'd argue they're not that arrogant about their intelligence because their peers are all pretty similar to them, they tend to think of themselves as average. They are blind to what exists outside of their upbringings, but that's not inherently the same as hubris. A middle class kid would be different, those are the new generation college kids who were the smartest of wherever they were from. People from families who always went to college(back when college was rare) and whose friends did etc. do not have the concept of people who are much dumber than them really existing.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:29 AM (eYoxG)
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It's clannish and self-selecting.

"I am smart, and so are my friends and colleagues and bosses. The retards who are outside of my group or affiliate groups are exactly that. The plumber I call to fix the toilet is a retard because if he wasn't, he'd be in my class. I am among peers and average, but my peer group is above average."

They don't articulate it this way, but I suspect it might the operating condition.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)

111 From a DNC bleg:

"We’ll be direct with you, D:

Donald Trump’s most recent fundraising numbers are out. March was his best fundraising month to date -- with the number of his online contributions outpacing those made to the DNC and President Biden’s reelection campaign combined.

Unfortunately, it’s extremely likely his numbers only go up from here as Election Day draws closer and closer. That means it’s up to all of us to match him. If we don’t, and he gains the upper hand in this race, the consequences for our country could be disastrous.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 26, 2024 11:37 AM (a3Q+t)

112 110 It's clannish and self-selecting.

"I am smart, and so are my friends and colleagues and bosses. The retards who are outside of my group or affiliate groups are exactly that. The plumber I call to fix the toilet is a retard because if he wasn't, he'd be in my class. I am among peers and average, but my peer group is above average."

They don't articulate it this way, but I suspect it might the operating condition.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)

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"Now, I'm going to use my official position to prove that I'm smart and people who disagree with me on issues I find important are stupid."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:37 AM (GBKbO)

113 36
‘ she's tooting her own horn….
“’ Intercepted DU Transmissions ”

You motherfuckers brag about your abortions!

Gain a sense of proportion, you ghouls.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (jbnUc)

114 Do we really know that Noem actually said that in the book? And that it's not taken way out of context? I find it very hard to believe that even if that cold-blooded act actually happened (I'm skeptical), an ambitious media-savvy political creature like Noem would put it in a fucking book. "I killed a poor little dog in cold blood" isn't a good look for anyone, ya know??

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)

115 But these supposedly smart people tend to come into contact with the straights. Sure, among their peers they don't necessarily stand out (but they'll often stab each other in the back to try to do so), but when they interact with the rubes (think kollej perferssers and their students), they get to lord their superior intellect over the ants below.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:34 AM (dGCAG)

Most high iq people tend to go into technical stuff. Engineers are not particularly prone to backstabbing. It's mostly the middling or average iq people newly empowered with college degrees, particularly from the liberal arts departments that have these attitudes.

Kids who go into classes where the median iq is 130 can easily live their entire education and most of their professional lives without meeting many people who aren't from that same bubble.

Having a college degree doesn't convey status when everyone you've ever known has a college degree. It's at the intersection point that we see the most ego.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (eYoxG)

116 113
You motherfuckers brag about your abortions!

Gain a sense of proportion, you ghouls.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (jbnUc)

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"Babies aren't people. Animals are people."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (GBKbO)

117 Different type of Choreography, Fen. He wants to be Biden's Leni Riefenstahl.

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Exactly. Ole Blue Collar Joe sure has the mega-wealthy, out-of-touch celebrity vote tied up. A man of the people, he is...

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (mupln)

118 Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
BREAKING.🚨
“I guess it’s 'Welcome to San Francisco'."
Adam Schiff is ROBBED in San Francisco causing him to show up at a meeting with no suit.

-
Well, at least they couldn't steal his reputation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

119 "I am smart, and so are my friends and colleagues and bosses. The retards who are outside of my group or affiliate groups are exactly that. The plumber I call to fix the toilet is a retard because if he wasn't, he'd be in my class. I am among peers and average, but my peer group is above average."

They don't articulate it this way, but I suspect it might the operating condition.
Posted by: Joe Mannix




As my grandmother wisely said, you don't have to tell people that you are smart.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:39 AM (lTGtQ)

120 Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:35 AM (di6C2)

I know. It was a joke.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 26, 2024 11:39 AM (XkYcA)

121 118 Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
BREAKING.🚨
“I guess it’s 'Welcome to San Francisco'."
Adam Schiff is ROBBED in San Francisco causing him to show up at a meeting with no suit.

-
Well, at least they couldn't steal his reputation.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

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The party elite need to have this happen increasingly to them. And then the activist base and their donors need to turn on them when the elite try to make things better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

122 ... Kids who go into classes where the median iq is 130 can easily live their entire education and most of their professional lives without meeting many people who aren't from that same bubble. ...
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (eYoxG)
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Yes, and that's where the consequences of the person's own observation of his intelligence comes in, and whether it feeds arrogance or humility. It can do either.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:40 AM (HnUIn)

123 I still wouldn't vote for Noem.

NCAA stooge that she is.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

Frankly, I think that story was mostly bullshit too.

Granted, this is a libertarian v. conservative thing, and everyone attributed her choice to being bought, but I think it had more to do with her believing it wasn't her job as governor, to tell screwels whether they could have boys competing with the girls.

That's basically my position too. Let parents sort this shit out. And stop using public funds to pay for it. And stop funding screwels altogether, now that we're on the subject.

But that's at odds with the DeSanctimious approach, I suppose, where he's weaponized his role as governor. Some people like that, I guess. I don't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

124 @kylenabecker
BREAKING.🚨
“I guess it’s 'Welcome to San Francisco'."
Adam Schiff is ROBBED in San Francisco causing him to show up at a meeting with no suit. ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)
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How'd he lose his suit? I mean, I doubt a mugger said, "Yo! Gimmie them threads!"

Or do they mean that one of the gangs in the Bay Area smashed-and-grabbed his luggage out of his car (incredibly common)?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:41 AM (HnUIn)

125 It's clannish and self-selecting.

"I am smart, and so are my friends and colleagues and bosses. The retards who are outside of my group or affiliate groups are exactly that. The plumber I call to fix the toilet is a retard because if he wasn't, he'd be in my class. I am among peers and average, but my peer group is above average."

They don't articulate it this way, but I suspect it might the operating condition.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:36 AM (HnUIn)

They usually have low or confused class awareness.

It's also pretty common to find people in the income/job rung below them who identify as elites/ruling class.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:41 AM (eYoxG)

126 "Now, I'm going to use my official position to prove that I'm smart and people who disagree with me on issues I find important are stupid."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:37 AM


"Exactly!"
-- Pope Francis

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 26, 2024 11:42 AM (a3Q+t)

127 How'd he lose his suit? I mean, I doubt a mugger said, "Yo! Gimmie them threads!"

Or do they mean that one of the gangs in the Bay Area smashed-and-grabbed his luggage out of his car (incredibly common)?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 11:41 AM (HnUIn)


There are those who say that it was the Russians.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at April 26, 2024 11:42 AM (AiZBA)

128 Do we really know that Noem actually said that in the book? And that it's not taken way out of context? I find it very hard to believe that even if that cold-blooded act actually happened (I'm skeptical), an ambitious media-savvy political creature like Noem would put it in a fucking book. "I killed a poor little dog in cold blood" isn't a good look for anyone, ya know??
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)

The kid who shot Old Yeller didn't enjoy doing it. It was a regrettable necessity. If one is capable of performing those regettable necessities when the need arises, it speaks to strength of character.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 11:42 AM (8zz6B)

129 123 That's basically my position too. Let parents sort this shit out. And stop using public funds to pay for it. And stop funding screwels altogether, now that we're on the subject.

But that's at odds with the DeSanctimious approach, I suppose, where he's weaponized his role as governor. Some people like that, I guess. I don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

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If government officials have no say in what schools that receive government funs do, then what's the point of the funds? Pull the funds since the government has no say in what's going on.

Truly depoliticize schooling.

Until that happens, though, elected officials have every obligation and right to manage what schools do. Hell, they already determine through unelected bureaucrats what textbooks get used.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:43 AM (GBKbO)

130 The collapse we are witnessing is largely due to the WWII generation exiting the scene.

Competence and integrity, proficiency and all those things are not valued. Education and rigorous winnowing out of unacceptable and unqualified individuals has been replaced by credentialed idiots who are politically reliable.

Clearly “they” absolutely revel in forcing corrupt cretins on decent peaceable people.to rule over everyone. This is their caviar.

Posted by: Common Tater at April 26, 2024 11:43 AM (P55mL)

131 Shame Schiff wasn't at his car to get pistol whipped or beatdown during the robbery.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at April 26, 2024 11:43 AM (R4t5M)

132 So an out-and-proud very famous, very rich Jew is gonna help Joey Showers "choreograph" the DNC ... while the pro-terror fascists and bloodthirsty Nazis bray outside the venue for "Death to All Jews." Can't make this up. Some Jews ain't never gonna learn, are they?

Oh and: This DNC is gonna be great!

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (iFTx/)

133 The most distinguishing shortcoming of the intelligentsia is not near-sightedness, progressive politics or an addiction to Starbucks; it is hubris. They don’t know what they don’t know.
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Disagree. It's progressive politics.

Those politics teach you that you are better and smarter than everyone else, who are at best blind and at worst malevolent.

We throw the term around but it really is a cult.

So we can identify their problem as hubris but if we don't see what is breeding the hubris, it can never hope to be dealt with.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (2e48P)

134 I would make one other suggestion about intelligent people: just because someone is very successful/knowledgeable doing one thing doesn't mean they will be knowledgeable/successful at something else or all other things.

I think of people who have started very successful business and then decide to do something completely different and it flops - because they assumed their competence in one area would automatically apply to all ventures.

Same with all those intellectuals/scientists who got on board with climate change and covid - like, just because you're a fabulous physicist doesn't mean your opinion on immunology is more valid than the rest of ours - you can't just assume success/intelligence in one pursuit means all things you touch or think are magically more informed and better reasoned.

You wouldn't expect your plumber, who's built a successful business and whom you trust completely, to be an expert opinion on farming. Sure, as a business owner he may have some insight that you may not, but his success doesn't mean he understands the intricacies of making a farm work. And yet we have CEOs, actors, professors lecturing us constantly on subject outside of their expertise.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (cCVOS)

135 Or do they mean that one of the gangs in the Bay Area smashed-and-grabbed his luggage out of his car (incredibly common)?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

(A few hours later)

Oh...disappointing. So...heteronormative.

Posted by: Sam Brinton at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (ycI94)

136 -
Well, at least they couldn't steal his reputation.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:39 AM (L/fGl)

You're not gonna believe this. The evidence against Trump? He had it on him. The robber took everything. Swearsies!

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (z+89e)

137 The kid who shot Old Yeller didn't enjoy doing it. It was a regrettable necessity. If one is capable of performing those regettable necessities when the need arises, it speaks to strength of character.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon



Well, great. One more movie I don't need to watch.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (lTGtQ)

138 but when they interact with the rubes (think kollej perferssers and their students), they get to lord their superior intellect over the ants below.
Posted by: BurtTC


THIS~! ... as the kids say.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (IG4Id)

139 I think we can rule out Atomic Dog Boy as a suspect in the Adam Schiff clothes affair.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 26, 2024 11:45 AM (a3Q+t)

140 128 Do we really know that Noem actually said that in the book? And that it's not taken way out of context? I find it very hard to believe that even if that cold-blooded act actually happened (I'm skeptical), an ambitious media-savvy political creature like Noem would put it in a fucking book. "I killed a poor little dog in cold blood" isn't a good look for anyone, ya know??
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (iFTx/)

The kid who shot Old Yeller didn't enjoy doing it. It was a regrettable necessity. If one is capable of performing those regettable necessities when the need arises, it speaks to strength of character.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 11:42 AM (8zz6B)
_________

Yea, that was my point about context. If this was really a mercy killing like Old Yeller, then that changes everything.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:45 AM (iFTx/)

141
The kid who shot Old Yeller didn't enjoy doing it. It was a regrettable necessity. If one is capable of performing those regettable necessities when the need arises, it speaks to strength of character.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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Yep. It's something that I think a lot of the left doesn't understand at its fundamental level. Putting down a dog you like/love comes from the same place as telling your child no.

Wait, I think I might have figured out a connection.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:45 AM (9Ct69)

142 Most high iq people tend to go into technical stuff. Engineers are not particularly prone to backstabbing. It's mostly the middling or average iq people newly empowered with college degrees, particularly from the liberal arts departments that have these attitudes.

Kids who go into classes where the median iq is 130 can easily live their entire education and most of their professional lives without meeting many people who aren't from that same bubble.

Having a college degree doesn't convey status when everyone you've ever known has a college degree. It's at the intersection point that we see the most ego.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:38 AM (eYoxG)

I don't think that's measurably true. I would assume most high IQ people DO tend to go into the intellectual pursuits, including the supposed hard sciences.

As much as "engineers" like to think they're smarter than everyone else, it's a type of intelligence that is very specialized. There are many many MANY very "smart" people who stay far away from such pursuits.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:45 AM (dGCAG)

143 Idea:

Red states should make one year of trade-school required for any post-graduate degree.

Going into your Master's program for Philosophy? Well, you have to become an apprentice welder for a couple of semesters first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:46 AM (GBKbO)

144 Unfortunately, it’s extremely likely his numbers only go up from here as Election Day draws closer and closer. That means it’s up to all of us to match him. If we don’t, and he gains the upper hand in this race, the consequences for our country could be disastrous.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 26, 2024 11:37 AM (a3Q+t)

So for a change it's actually true that "both sides do it"!

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the American people" -Sumdood

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 26, 2024 11:46 AM (FCbAQ)

145 I feel relatively certain they are going to wall off the DNC and give themselves the best optics possible. But only relatively because I don't know what their game is. I know they are enjoying this chaos and the threat it represents.

If they want to appear, above all else, as if they are not in control of these vile factions, it wouldn't be bad to let their own party get crashed.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2024 11:46 AM (2e48P)

146 66
‘ Reminds me of the TV series Chernobyl ’

Ironically, dog shooting figured into that show too

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 26, 2024 11:47 AM (jbnUc)

147 Oh...disappointing. So...heteronormative.
Posted by: Sam Brinton at April 26, 2024 11:44 AM (ycI94)

The lace panties were too tight...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 26, 2024 11:47 AM (8zz6B)

148 86 Just like Romney's dog, binders of women, hazing team mates, etc...
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 26, 2024 11:30 AM (ycI94)

To be fair, Romney IS a giant tool.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 26, 2024 11:32 AM (di6C2)

Noam is good looking and from a reliably Red state... but I'd take the Gov of Arkansas over her any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Posted by: Inogame at April 26, 2024 11:48 AM (53oGX)

149 Unfortunately, it’s extremely likely his numbers only go up from here as Election Day draws closer and closer. That means it’s up to all of us to match him. If we don’t, and he gains the upper hand in this race, the consequences for our country could be disastrous.

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At least y'all have the entirety of the federal government, both political parties, academia, Hollywood, music, entertainment, IT / search engines, and 99% of millionaires and billionaires.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - feminism took women from not sweating to tits and vagina deodorant in a generation at April 26, 2024 11:49 AM (9Ct69)

150 ESG can DEI.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 26, 2024 11:49 AM (oALvb)

151 According to Newsweek, Noem said in her book that the dog was aggressive and unfocused, and ran around wildly instead of flushing birds as intended. Then, while returning from a hunting/training with the dog:

Noem then used an electronic collar to attempt to bring her under control, she wrote, but that didn't work. Then on the way home, Cricket (the dog) escaped Noem's truck and attacked the family's chickens, "grabb[ing] one chicken at a time, crunching it to death with one bite, then dropping it to attack another." This made the chickens' owner cry and Noem financially renumerated them and helped them clean the mess the dog had made.

"At that moment," Noem said, "I realized I had to put her down."

"It was not a pleasant job," she writes, "but it had to be done. And after it was over, I realized another unpleasant job needed to be done." (Killing the aggressive, ungelded goat)

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 26, 2024 11:50 AM (ycI94)

152
Working Title of Steven Spielberg's New Filmed Biography of Joe Biden for the DNC:

"Close Encounters with Third Graders"

Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2024 11:51 AM (eDfFs)

153 96 So Potato is out there making fun of Trump's "bleached hair." I find that quite humorous considering Joe Biden's face now looks like it's made entirely out of plastic, his teeth are fake Chiclets, and his head is full of hair plugs.
Posted by: Lady in Black at

It’s even funnier when you know people with red hair don’t go grey- the red pigment fades overtime and goes to blonde and then white with kinda funky variations in between. Biden is an imbecile.

Auburn hair doesn’t do this, sadly.

Posted by: Piper at April 26, 2024 11:51 AM (ZdaMQ)

154 145 I feel relatively certain they are going to wall off the DNC and give themselves the best optics possible. But only relatively because I don't know what their game is. I know they are enjoying this chaos and the threat it represents.

If they want to appear, above all else, as if they are not in control of these vile factions, it wouldn't be bad to let their own party get crashed.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2024 11:46 AM (2e48P)
_________

They will try. I don't think they will succeed. They created these feral monsters. What's the Number One Rule of Monsters? They always turn on their creator. I don't see how they stop these lunatics. Are they gonna wall off the entire city with electrified fences and piranha-filled moats? I suspect more likely the media will just blackout the whole thing.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

155 How'd he lose his suit? I mean, I doubt a mugger said, "Yo! Gimmie them threads!"

Or do they mean that one of the gangs in the Bay Area smashed-and-grabbed his luggage out of his car (incredibly common)?
_______

Senate candidate Adam Schiff gives the clothes of his back to support the homeless.
- Bay Area news rag, probably

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (bWAME)

156 One of the articles this morning claimed that the Floyd Riots were the impetus behind all the DEI initiatives.

Only partially true. They are both psy ops.

It's like saying Joe declaring a Climate Emergency is going to cause various initiatives.

No - they're declaring the emergency because the initiatives are ready to go.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (2e48P)

157 Working Title of Steven Spielberg's New Filmed Biography of Joe Biden for the DNC:

"Close Encounters with Third Graders"

Posted by: naturalfake


Close Encounters of the Turd Kind

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (0hu/3)

158 I don't think that's measurably true. I would assume most high IQ people DO tend to go into the intellectual pursuits, including the supposed hard sciences.

As much as "engineers" like to think they're smarter than everyone else, it's a type of intelligence that is very specialized. There are many many MANY very "smart" people who stay far away from such pursuits.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:45 AM (dGCAG)

I'm not sure what group you're trying to say is intellectual here.

People in STEM are higher IQ. The liberal arts are lower iq. Within the business school, at the higher end is economics and finance, the lower end is management and marketing. Math, logic, spatial reasoning are basically what IQ tests tend to measure.

The high iq people overwhelmingly do not go into lines of work related to supporting some sort of message. It's advanced math and logic related stuff.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (eYoxG)

159 $20, same as downtown?

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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:53 AM (L/fGl)

160 Somewhat actually on topic:

@RealEJAntoni
Holy $#!*...
The quarterly census of employment and wages shows a DROP of 192k private sector jobs in Q3 last year after BLS said nonfarm payrolls rose 640k over that same time! Note that unlike the monthly job estimates, the quarterly census covers more than 95% of US jobs:
twitter.com/RealEJAntoni/status/1783209074831560845

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 26, 2024 11:54 AM (IG4Id)

161 I suspect more likely the media will just blackout the whole thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

Well yeah that's definitely part of it. Along with lots of jackboots on the ground but like I said I don't know. I think you're right but then I remember they control when and where these groups go. And when they go away.

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2024 11:54 AM (2e48P)

162 That's basically my position too. Let parents sort this shit out. And stop using public funds to pay for it. And stop funding screwels altogether, now that we're on the subject.

But that's at odds with the DeSanctimious approach, I suppose, where he's weaponized his role as governor. Some people like that, I guess. I don't.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 26, 2024 11:40 AM (dGCAG)

I get that,
But a state school is that... the state's and the tax base.
I see both arguments though and it's something to hash out.

Posted by: Inogame at April 26, 2024 11:54 AM (53oGX)

163 ZH has a story about how in this supposed great economy so many people can't find jobs.

The answer is the same one I've been discussing for a while.

Government unemployment figures tell you how many people are on unemployment insurance which is essentially just the people unemployed for a short time.

If you look at the labor participation rates they are about as low as they've ever been.


Posted by: 18-1 at April 26, 2024 11:55 AM (ibTVg)

164 Reported vs. Revised Net Gain/Loss in Jobs over 13 months. 2 out of the 13 months were positive revisions. This here is bovine excrement in action:

twitter.com/BikingForBeer/status/1783233594346946644

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 26, 2024 11:56 AM (IG4Id)

165 Somewhat actually on topic:

@RealEJAntoni
Holy $#!*...
The quarterly census of employment and wages shows a DROP of 192k private sector jobs in Q3 last year after BLS said nonfarm payrolls rose 640k over that same time! Note that unlike the monthly job estimates, the quarterly census covers more than 95% of US jobs:
twitter.com/RealEJAntoni/status/1783209074831560845

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 26, 2024 11:54 AM (IG4Id)

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So, a transitory depression, like we experienced and which "they" covered up during DogEater's reign of error.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 11:56 AM (8FmJd)

166
It’s even funnier when you know people with red hair don’t go grey- the red pigment fades overtime and goes to blonde and then white with kinda funky variations in between. Biden is an imbecile.

Posted by: Piper at April 26, 2024 11:51 AM


That's me right now. I was only partly reddish when young, but now it's like a warm blond color. My beard is a dull gray though.

So I think Trump - whose ancestors came from the same part of the world as mine did - his hair color is real. Maybe a little henna - which is not bleach.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 26, 2024 11:56 AM (RKVpM)

167 Commenting present and fighting off ads to do that
Posted by: Skip at April 26, 2024 11:12 AM (kGLb6)

Kung Fu fighting ?

Posted by: JT at April 26, 2024 11:56 AM (T4tVD)

168 They will try. I don't think they will succeed. They created these feral monsters. What's the Number One Rule of Monsters? They always turn on their creator. I don't see how they stop these lunatics. Are they gonna wall off the entire city with electrified fences and piranha-filled moats? I suspect more likely the media will just blackout the whole thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade



They still control these monsters. Remember how BLM simply evaporated once Bia Den "won".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2024 11:57 AM (0hu/3)

169 Reported vs. Revised Net Gain/Loss in Jobs over 13 months. 2 out of the 13 months were positive revisions. This here is bovine excrement in action:

twitter.com/BikingForBeer/status/1783233594346946644

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 26, 2024 11:56 AM (IG4Id)

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Unexpectedly!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 11:57 AM (8FmJd)

170 Falsified!!??

And people wonder why I play NukeMap so often.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 26, 2024 11:58 AM (W/lyH)

171 96
‘ Potato is out there making fun of Trump's "bleached hair."’

God, I hope that old creep really thinks he can win a name-calling fight with Trump.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 26, 2024 11:58 AM (jbnUc)

172 I see a story that Jeff Bezos doesn't like the phrase work-life balance but things work and private life should a "circle" and in "harmony".

Now there are plenty of people that use the phase work-life balance because they don't want to work hard but...having the second richest man in the world, who is semi-retired, doesn't need to set an alarm clock, and recently dumped his wife for a newer (though well used) woman I...don't think he's a person that should feel his opinion adds much...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 26, 2024 11:58 AM (ibTVg)

173 Mitch McConnell Apologizes to Zelensky for Not Sending Aid Fast Enough

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When are you going apologize to us for not building a damn wall?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:58 AM (L/fGl)

174 173 Mitch McConnell Apologizes to Zelensky for Not Sending Aid Fast Enough

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When are you going apologize to us for not building a damn wall?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 11:58 AM (L/fGl)

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Hey, now. We could do without a wall if we militarized our border as much as Ukraine is trying to do with our money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 11:59 AM (GBKbO)

175 161 I suspect more likely the media will just blackout the whole thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (iFTx/)

Well yeah that's definitely part of it. Along with lots of jackboots on the ground but like I said I don't know. I think you're right but then I remember they control when and where these groups go. And when they go away.
Posted by: ... at April 26, 2024 11:54 AM (2e48P)
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Oh and to the extent the monsters do riot, they will blame outside agitators and MAGA infiltrators. Just like they did when hordes of filthy CHUDs took over colleges screaming for Jewish blood. "Yea, that kinda happened. But it was all MAGA's fault!"

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)

176 Mitch McConnell Apologizes to Zelensky for Not Sending Aid Fast Enough

Also, I didn't play with his balls enough

Posted by: Bitch McConnell wiping his chin at April 26, 2024 11:59 AM (ibTVg)

177 ZH has a story about how in this supposed great economy so many people can't find jobs.

The answer is the same one I've been discussing for a while.

Government unemployment figures tell you how many people are on unemployment insurance which is essentially just the people unemployed for a short time.

If you look at the labor participation rates they are about as low as they've ever been.


Posted by: 18-1


Yes, and if you compare the household survey to the BLS data, they don't come close to matching.

Some weird errors in the data started cropping up in Jan/Feb of 2021....

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (lTGtQ)

178 Maybe the repetitive 212 is a secret code or message from aliens (extraterrestrial).

Jus spit balling here.

Posted by: Barney Rubble at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (ipGHl)

179 $20, same as downtown?

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FML.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (0hu/3)

180 I see a story that Jeff Bezos doesn't like the phrase work-life balance but things work and private life should a "circle" and in "harmony".
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As in balanced?

Posted by: ... at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (2e48P)

181 $20, same as downtown?

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Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (8FmJd)

182 Oh and to the extent the monsters do riot, they will blame outside agitators and MAGA infiltrators. Just like they did when hordes of filthy CHUDs took over colleges screaming for Jewish blood. "Yea, that kinda happened. But it was all MAGA's fault!"
Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)

Well Chicago is MAGA country...

Posted by: Juicey Smellit at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (53oGX)

183 177 Yes, and if you compare the household survey to the BLS data, they don't come close to matching.

Some weird errors in the data started cropping up in Jan/Feb of 2021....
Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (lTGtQ)

======

Listen, if we can't trust government numbers, at least we have media polls that we can still trust.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 26, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)

184 There is another simple reason to act on known bad data. If you don't act on it and others do, you will miss out. You might not believe the jobs report, but if the hedge fund manager next door believes in it and acts on it, you might miss out. And investment algorithms won't care, they will just react to the nimbers. Eventually the facade fails, but you can either make money until then, or not. Which would you do?
And economists make lawyers look like angels of truth and integrity, so never expect them to call the bs. Their job is to sell it.

Posted by: Tom at April 26, 2024 12:01 PM (tAkxj)

185 Transportation Sec Buttigieg: Boeing Must Improve Safety and Quality Control Before Increasing 737 MAX Production

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Well, Buttgigitty, you could take your foot off their throat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 12:01 PM (L/fGl)

186 On further thought, it could also be because someone is to effing lazy to actually look at the data.

Posted by: Barney Rubble at April 26, 2024 12:01 PM (ipGHl)

187 People in STEM are higher IQ. The liberal arts are lower iq. Within the business school, at the higher end is economics and finance, the lower end is management and marketing. Math, logic, spatial reasoning are basically what IQ tests tend to measure.

The high iq people overwhelmingly do not go into lines of work related to supporting some sort of message. It's advanced math and logic related stuff.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 26, 2024 11:52 AM (eYoxG)

I went to a magnet high school in Louisiana that focused on Arts and Science. You had to choose one track when you applied. Anyway, I did the science track. But the Arts track still had to do the basic math and science state requirements. The course catalog listed classes as such - "Algebra II for Arts Students", "Physical Science for Art Students". We were not allowed to cross over.

Posted by: Mishdog at April 26, 2024 12:01 PM (Mykux)

188 This busty bikini blonde on a boat doesn't care whether her man manufactures real numbers or fake ones, or whether he's smart or not, but only whether he can keep that boat:
http://tiny.cc/es5vxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 12:02 PM (HnUIn)

189 Same with all those intellectuals/scientists who got on board with climate change and covid - like, just because you're a fabulous physicist doesn't mean your opinion on immunology is more valid than the rest of ours - you can't just assume success/intelligence in one pursuit means all things you touch or think are magically more informed and better reasoned.

Actually, what I find shocking is that these guys should be better to make those kinds of judgements using the Scientific Method that they use in their own work and research, and yet-

they don't.

Anyone who spent three minutes applying the same scientific Method that they should be using in their own research would see that "Climate Science"/AGW/Climate Chaos?etc is a huge pile of wish-casting poo.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2024 12:02 PM (eDfFs)

190
U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Division of Labor Force Statistics Suite 2135 2 Massachusetts Avenue, NE Washington, DC 20212-0001.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 26, 2024 12:02 PM (RKVpM)

191 168 They will try. I don't think they will succeed. They created these feral monsters. What's the Number One Rule of Monsters? They always turn on their creator. I don't see how they stop these lunatics. Are they gonna wall off the entire city with electrified fences and piranha-filled moats? I suspect more likely the media will just blackout the whole thing.
Posted by: Elric Blade



They still control these monsters. Remember how BLM simply evaporated once Bia Den "won".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 26, 2024 11:57 AM (0hu/3)
_______

I dunno. These pro-terror CHUDs seem like a different breed. Yes, there is some overlap, but overall their allegiance seems to be to radical Islam and not any specific political group. Evidence? One: they are already causing havoc and terrible press for the Dums -- as well as causing loss of yuge funding from rich Jews -- yet nobody is stopping them. Two: just look at them. An awful lot of Muslims in those riots.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 26, 2024 12:03 PM (iFTx/)

192 @124 Or do they mean that one of the gangs in the Bay Area smashed-and-grabbed his luggage out of his car (incredibly common)?

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This is what happened. His luggage was stolen out of his car during a trip up to the Bay Area.

Posted by: junior at April 26, 2024 12:03 PM (OXXIx)

193 Transportation Sec Buttigieg: Boeing Must Improve Safety and Quality Control Before Increasing 737 MAX Production

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I must have missed the part where he bought the company.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 12:03 PM (lTGtQ)

194 This is what happened. His luggage was stolen out of his car during a trip up to the Bay Area.
Posted by: junior at April 26, 2024 12:03 PM (OXXIx)
++++
Bummer. I was kind of hoping that he was mugged and the mugger stole his clothes off his back.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 12:04 PM (HnUIn)

195 Mitch McConnell Apologizes to Zelensky for Not Sending Aid Fast Enough

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I'm waiting for Kentucky to apologize for Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2024 12:04 PM (mupln)

196 I wouldn't sell any life insurance to this guy.

JPMorgan CEO Issues Dire Warning About Biden Administration's “Huge” Deficit Spending

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 12:04 PM (L/fGl)

197 Working Title of Steven Spielberg's New Filmed Biography of Joe Biden for the DNC:

"Close Encounters with Third Graders"

Posted by: naturalfake at April 26, 2024 11:51 AM (eDfFs)

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"Jurrasic Punk."

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 12:04 PM (8FmJd)

198
Actually, what I find shocking is that these guys should be better to make those kinds of judgements using the Scientific Method that they use in their own work and research, and yet-

they don't.


Modern famous scientists, and lot of non-famous ones, don't use the scientific method anyway in their own fields.

That's the old "white supremacist" way to do things.

Now its just repeating whatever you are told to say to get grant funding.

Posted by: 18-1 at April 26, 2024 12:06 PM (ibTVg)

199 A 'nice job' also to JJ Sefton, though I don't see any way to comment over at Taki's

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Anti-Marxist, buy ammo at April 26, 2024 12:06 PM (xcxpd)

200 NOOD PALI RIOTS

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 26, 2024 12:06 PM (HnUIn)

201 JPMorgan CEO Issues Dire Warning About Biden Administration's “Huge” Deficit Spending

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



By the way, Jamie, your buds in DC decided to steal Russian bank deposits in the west to give to Ukraine. Guess what is going to happen to the $450 million you had in Russian banks?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 26, 2024 12:06 PM (lTGtQ)

202 Mitch McConnell Apologizes to Zelensky for Not Sending Aid Fast Enough

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$20 billion, same as in dachas.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 26, 2024 12:06 PM (8FmJd)

203 NooD

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 26, 2024 12:06 PM (IG4Id)

204 Working Title of Steven Spielberg's New Filmed Biography of Joe Biden for the DNC:

"Close Encounters with Third Graders"

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Delaware Joe and the Temple of Doom

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 26, 2024 12:06 PM (mupln)

205 Smoking stunts your growth.








Now he tells me!

Posted by: Pall Mall at April 26, 2024 12:07 PM (V5BDR)

206 We imported a bunch of angry Muslims and put them on welfare as part of the informal terms of our surrender in the "War on Terror"

Why would anyone be surprised they are agitating for a more Islamic take on the world?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 26, 2024 12:08 PM (ibTVg)

207 I don’t know anything about the Noem story, but I’m rather confident there was a detailed description leading up to her shooting the dog and the difficulty with having to do it. People who don’t live on farms or ranches have no concept of what difficult decisions are made daily and how you can’t simply rehome animals or have vets down the street to treat them. I’m passing on the story until the entire context is available.

Posted by: Jen the original at April 26, 2024 12:08 PM (gJHrU)

208 Why Not: Los Angeles High School To Host Drag Queen “World Series”

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I wonder what the ball /strike count will be.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 26, 2024 12:09 PM (L/fGl)

209 i don't work on this but people I know do as a subject matter. That its this consistent would bother me from the outset but seasonal adjustment is a real thing because you want to normalize against holidays and calendar effects and other trends. Otherwise employment would spike every Christmas.

What is bizarre would be the whole numbers which may be a reporting or privacy issue as governments have been more panicky about privacy. Now, that doesn't mean shenanegans aren't going on... I'd be worried about any data situation where the figures start becoming very consistent after methodological application. Real data is noisy even after trend adjustments.

Posted by: Former Mass. Resident at April 26, 2024 12:09 PM (apNVD)

210 Not surprised by DNC/Spielberg. Look at J6 and the dude from ABC.

This is about timing, obviously optics, who follows who and where they stand next to each other, etc.

It's story time. What's Jill going to wear? Camera from the front row looking up at Joe vs the balcony shot. There's not enough lipstick for this pig.

But, what he can produce is the dramatic anti-Trump short film. That's more problematic.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 26, 2024 12:10 PM (JkCto)

211 The quarterly census of employment and wages shows a DROP of 192k private sector jobs in Q3 last year after BLS said nonfarm payrolls rose 640k over that same time! Note that unlike the monthly job estimates, the quarterly census covers more than 95% of US.

Posted by: weft cut-loop

That's understandable because the gov't has been on a hiring spree. It's unsustainable. But it is all about jigging the numbers before the election.

Say, will Jake point this out?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at April 26, 2024 12:13 PM (JkCto)

212 I think of some very intelligent people as balancing a very tall thin pole ... sure it reaches high but its very unstable with no real foundation ... or they are swinging a very thin bat very fast (intelligence) but when a heavy ball is pitched (the real world) their swing does nothing to it ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at April 26, 2024 01:09 PM (DBAaD)

213 If the labor participation rate is 66% and its low but the government says all is well how is it the government says the Great Depression saw unemployment rate at 25%. If you believe these figures I have a time share condo for you in Puerto Prince.

Posted by: Fred at April 26, 2024 05:40 PM (bXvrr)

214 Good day! I know this is kind of off topic but I was wondering which blog platform are you using for this site?
I'm getting tired of Wordpress because I've had problems with hackers
and I'm looking at alternatives for another platform. I would be fantastic if
you could point me in the direction of a good platform.

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