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Two weeks later . . . .

eclipse navajo.jpg

Eclipse last week over the Navajo Nation

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Israel, Two Weeks Later


Many people in The Horde have been worried about Neal in Israel, who sends us interesting content for the Gardening Thread. I heard from him yesterday:

Katy, shalom,

Vann, shalom,

It's very good of you and the Horde to think of us at this time.

We are OK; and, in our immediate family, we don't have anyone in a particularly dangerous place or doing something particularly dangerous in the military. So, personally, we are in better shape than many other families in Israel.

As our daughter works in a security agency, while her husband is in the army, we are occupied every day with looking after their 4 children, including 2.5 yr old twins. It's challenging; it reminds us why it's young people who have children; but it lets us feel that we're contributing something and it keeps us from watching, reading, or listening to news all the time.

Of course, we are all shocked by what has happened - the greatest slaughter of Jews since 1945. Before the Nazi regime industrialized murder of Jews at the extermination camps, it sent Einsatzgruppen into Eastern Europe, whose task was to enter villages and towns, round up the Jews, and murder them all. The Hamas death squads which entered villages and towns along the Gaza border had the same mission, with an additional sadism multiplier. And while the Nazis had some residual moral sense which led them to seek to hide their crimes, Hamas instructed its murderers to record their crimes and circulate them on the internet.

We hope for a better, safer future after the IDF completes its mission in Gaza.

I want to thank you again for your concern. It encourages and strengthens us in a difficult time.

Best regards,
Neal

We are all hoping for the same, Neal. Keep in touch.

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Setting down a marker (with references)

Two weeks ago today our normal became a nightmare.

For those of you who may have already forgotten, here's a reminder.

For the victims, for our families, for humanity.

It's our obligation to remember.

Click over for details.

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From Yemen

JUST WHAT WE NEED

h/t Ciampino, who also posted some other interesting news in the Tech Thread today:

US warship shot down 15 drones and four cruise missiles 'headed for Israel' during NINE-HOUR onslaught from Iranian-backed militants in Yemen

An official from the Defense Department said the drones and cruise missiles were shot down using SM-2 surface-to-air missiles.

The source added that the rockets fired by the Iran-backed Houthi militants were clearly headed for Israel.

While a US official added that they do not believe the missiles, shot down over the water, were aimed at the US warship.

The Houthi terrorist group in Yemen has signaled its intention to join the war against Israel.

The Al Tanf Garrison military base in Syria, where there are American troops present, was targeted by two drones on Wednesday.

One was destroyed while the other impacted the base following joint action by US and coalition forces.

There are some graphics in this piece which show the targets of the drones, but I only saw one depicting where Yemen was in relationship to some of the targets. Yemen is something of a concern of mine because some immigrants in our area are from Yemen, and some of them travel back and forth or send kids back and forth from time to time. Don't know which side they're on in the civil war. But their ability to travel may suggest that they are not rebels.

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Western Elites

I like the phrase "Stenographers of Terrorists"

She also wrote up a nice print twitter rant for shareable quotes. She emphasizes here the relationship between the stupidity of journalists and the degradation of our educational system.

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Abigail Shrier:

When we eliminate rigorous academic standards, we leave unaccountable activist educators with lots of extra time to indoctrinate students.

You've probably already seen this video of protesting high school students. If you haven't click over.

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Hamas terrorists . . . are backtracking, because they now recognize that they overplayed their hand, overestimating the world's tolerance for atrocities against Jews. They have lost their PR edge and now understand that murdering children is wrong, always--even for them.

This about-face catches Hamas's Western allies in an awkward position. American members of groups like Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) now appear in a uniquely atrocious light. While Hamas has chosen to deny (falsely) its atrocities, thereby confirming them as atrocities, SJP and similar organizations have already accepted that Hamas's inhumane actions are true - - and celebrated them.

Interestingly, those without ties to elite institutions seem to be less inclined to have ties to Hamas.

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Meanwhile, in China

Hope he doesn't get the idea that he has to do something dramatic . . .


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From Italy

The world keeps turning . .

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Music

Bach

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend. Say a little prayer if you're the prayin' type.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, October 14, Maybe diversity isn't always our strength

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:07 AM




Comments

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1 I'm not sure which formation that is, in southern Utah, I believe, but I'm sure I've driven past it many times.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:13 AM (QBaJw)

2 Or northern Arizona, in that area, it doesn't much make any difference where the state lines are.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:14 AM (QBaJw)

3 It's called Shiprock, in NW New Mexico.

Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:15 AM (tA1/w)

4 I have a picture, no where near as good of a Lunar eclipse with multiple shots. There fun to see

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 11:17 AM (fwDg9)

5 Nice pins on wop girl.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 21, 2023 11:18 AM (gwEqj)

6 It's called Shiprock, in NW New Mexico.
Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:15 AM (tA1/w)

Oh, that's right. I've not been there. Lots of similar formations all over that area.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:19 AM (QBaJw)

7 "Hamas terrorists . . . are backtracking, because they now recognize that they overplayed their hand, overestimating the world's tolerance for atrocities against Jews. They have lost their PR edge and now understand that murdering children is wrong, always--even for them."

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Oh, that's some spectacular wishful thinking there.

It's too early to tell, but it's entirely possible Hamas has gotten precisely what they intended from this little stunt.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:20 AM (QBaJw)

8 "An official from the Defense Department said the drones and cruise missiles were shot down using SM-2 surface-to-air missiles. "
These must be a few million $$$ per missile. Did we bomb the snit out of the launch sites ? No ? So how is this a positive thing ?

Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:21 AM (tA1/w)

9 Figures, you gotta be in the desert to get a good look at anything up in them yonder.

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 11:21 AM (V13WU)

10 Personally I think it's great that various leftist special-interests like Saint Greta and the media establishment are so publicly showing solidarity with Islamic baby killers using the title and regalia of those interests. For they can thus no longer claim that those interests have any moral high ground, or that they are anything more than just another mundane front in the great struggle of cultural Marxism.

Posted by: CppThis at October 21, 2023 11:22 AM (PZvjL)

11 best way to insure that hamas has learned anything is to kill hamas and any remnant of hamas

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 11:22 AM (V13WU)

12 *ensure !

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 11:23 AM (V13WU)

13 These must be a few million $$$ per missile. Did we bomb the snit out of the launch sites ? No ? So how is this a positive thing ?
Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:21 AM (tA1/w)

I saw a little meme the other day, a photo showing missiles being intercepted in the sky. Under the interceptors, a caption: "Your tax dollars." Under the missiles: "Also your tax dollars."

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:26 AM (QBaJw)

14 Regard to ‘The world keeps turning’ another not proud moment for France in WW2. With the Nazis concurrence they continued to play the French Open tennis tournament during the war.

Posted by: Drive by at October 21, 2023 11:26 AM (MNhXM)

15 Eclipse is a photoshop, no?

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at October 21, 2023 11:27 AM (wu87C)

16 BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:20 AM

A lot of people will forget. Especially in certain quarters.


That's the purpose of the two-week reminder I put in the thread.

But they were surprised at the backlash they got, even from parts of the Arab world.

Posted by: KT at October 21, 2023 11:29 AM (rrtZS)

17 "Also your tax dollars."

G.W. Bush pioneered the strategy of using multi-million dollar missiles to blow up a camel and a tent. Shock and Awe Again !

Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:29 AM (tA1/w)

18 Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:21 AM (tA1/w)

They cost about 400k which is not cheap.

Posted by: Drive by at October 21, 2023 11:30 AM (MNhXM)

19 Met a young woman-well, young to me probably in her in her 30's
outside a coffee shop. We had our campaign tee shirts and were handing out campaign flyers. She said, "I always vote Democratic. I don't like the Republican stand on LGBT." I asked her "What is the Republican stand?" She had no answer but then said, "MY kids are in grade school and they know all about LGBT issues. I said, "I used to be a Democrat and I don't care what adults do in privacy, but did you know that information is being kept from parents if underage kids want to transition and that some kids are given hormone blockers without their parents permission? She had no clue.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2023 11:30 AM (RSbhh)

20
Tale of Emperor a President Whose Ineptitude Ended His Dynasty Country Unnerves Chinese American Censors


FIFY.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 21, 2023 11:30 AM (QzZeQ)

21 For they can thus no longer claim that those interests have any moral high ground, or that they are anything more than just another mundane front in the great struggle of cultural Marxism.
Posted by: CppThis at October 21, 2023 11:22 AM (PZvjL)

They expect you will forget they are begging you to stop polluting Mother Gaia, they expect you will forget they wanted you to turn in your guns, to get your booster shots, to eat the bugs. They expect you will have forgotten they stand behind the LBGTQRXTUZ community.

This is the latest thing. It doesn't have to be congruent with any of their previous stances... except the net result must be more power for the powerful, and less freedom for you.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:30 AM (QBaJw)

22 Also your tax dollars."

G.W. Bush pioneered the strategy of using multi-million dollar missiles to blow up a camel and a tent. Shock and Awe Again !
Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:29 AM (tA1/w)

That was Clinton trying to get Osama.

Posted by: Drive by at October 21, 2023 11:30 AM (MNhXM)

23 Neal in Israel, good luck and God bless to you, your family and fellow countryman.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 21, 2023 11:31 AM (frl09)

24 Fossil fuel exporting countries like Russia and Saudi Arabia support Hamas they also support trump
The Euro Biden coalition support Israel.
40% of the population of Gaza are under 14 years old

Posted by: Paul at October 21, 2023 11:31 AM (UipNw)

25 "Eclipse is a photoshop, no?"

I thought so too but the eclipse path did go nearly right over Shiprock - so it may very well be real.

You do have to use Photoshop to merge multiple photos to get the sequence . . .

Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:32 AM (tA1/w)

26 Posted by: Paul at October 21, 2023 11:31 AM (UipNw)

I have no doubt you support Hamas.

Posted by: Drive by at October 21, 2023 11:33 AM (MNhXM)

27 But they were surprised at the backlash they got, even from parts of the Arab world.
Posted by: KT at October 21, 2023 11:29 AM (rrtZS)

I don't think the ones who "planned the attack" are anything other than pawns, and they likely don't much care about the backlash. Especially those that are already dead.

The people who play the long game though, today's backlash will soon be forgotten. They know that. Whatever the long game is, if it's the end of this world, or the bringing upon the Earth, the Caliphate, or just to descend on the West like locusts, consuming whatever they can for as long as they can, I think they are still on, the game plan still moves in their direction.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:34 AM (QBaJw)

28 There’s a dude I went to college with who is Jewish. On LinkedIn, during the Trump years he posted all about how Trump was the most worst person ever.

Post Hamas attacks, he has posted how he is shocked and angered that so few people in his network are publicity outraged by Hamas.

It’s like really? You’re shocked that your hard left peeps hate Jews and support Hamas? A real head scratcher there my man.

Posted by: Montec at October 21, 2023 11:35 AM (fSFcR)

29 Prolapse Paul!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 21, 2023 11:37 AM (R4t5M)

30 That clip of the girl performing with the ball - fantastic.

My only issue is that constant "woo'ing" and screaming by the audience. When did that become a thing? It certainly wasn't always. I guess we can no longer just sit quietly enjoying a gymnastic performance but instead have to scream and shout "support" to the performer to validate them?

Sorry for that, it's just become a bit tiring. I know, just mute the volume and let them enjoy their screaming and shouting.

Posted by: Son of Dad at October 21, 2023 11:37 AM (8JB5s)

31 The people who play the long game though, today's backlash will soon be forgotten

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100%. 5 years from now the story will be Israel for no reason whatsoever decided to kill a bunch of innocent women and children in Gaza, back in 2023.

Posted by: Montec at October 21, 2023 11:37 AM (fSFcR)

32 In watching the events from Israel I note that I have yet to see one of the most common terrorist tactic has yet to be utilized: the suicide bomber. If the Iranians and jihadist want to amp the war up the would unleash a wave of them across Israel, Europe and the US. Hopefully they realize that's an end stage tactic

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 21, 2023 11:38 AM (frl09)

33 Paul, the easiest person in this world to lie to is yourself. Also, the most dangerous lies are those made to ourselves. Continue to bask in the success that your false life is blessed with.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * No quarter, no mercy at October 21, 2023 11:38 AM (Qm4V8)

34 hmmmm

"Turkey will take part in peace talks next week to discuss ways to end the Ukraine conflict, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Saturday, after speaking with Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
The Mediterranean Island of Malta announced Friday it would host a round of Ukraine peace talks on October 28-29, after similar meetings in Jeddah and Copenhagen earlier this year."


Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 11:38 AM (V13WU)

35 Hiya

Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 11:38 AM (T4tVD)

36 Why do we have ground troops in Syria?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 11:39 AM (u73oe)

37 HI Paul! How are your chinchillas doing, did you clean the cage like your mom told you to?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 11:39 AM (xhaym)

38 Batya Ungar-Sargon

Who names their kid Batya ?

Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 11:39 AM (T4tVD)

39 I said, "I used to be a Democrat and I don't care what adults do in privacy, but did you know that information is being kept from parents if underage kids want to transition and that some kids are given hormone blockers without their parents permission? She had no clue.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2023 11:30 AM (RSbhh)

Another one of those things MANY Democrat voters don't know, abortions are performed all the way up to (and sometimes after) birth.

They hear "a woman's right to choose," and they picture a woman getting the "bad news" after she's missed a period or two, and think those big bad Republicans are out there trying to force her to crank one out for Jesus.

The p.r. game is so effective, if you explain to them, the concepts of survivability outside the womb, of the stages of pregnancy that involve the heart beating, the fetus feeling pain, MANY of these Democrat voters will recoil at the thought of ripping that life out.

But they don't know. They think it's an ink stain, a zygote, a clump of cells.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:40 AM (QBaJw)

40 Turkey will take part in peace talks next

——

Noooooooooooo!!!!!!
- Lockheed, Boeing. Raytheon

Posted by: Montec at October 21, 2023 11:40 AM (fSFcR)

41
36 Why do we have ground troops in Syria?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 11:39 AM (u73oe)

Don’t we have ground troops in pretty much every country on planet?

Posted by: Montec at October 21, 2023 11:41 AM (fSFcR)

42 The media continues to uncritically use casualty figures from the "Gaza Health Ministry", which is of course Hamas.

These Gaza casualty figures are undoubtedly vastly overstated - it is important for Hamas to claim that more Gazans have been killed or wounded than Israelis, and they aren't going to let facts get in the way of claiming that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 11:41 AM (2tUFv)

43 Who names their kid Batya ?
Posted by: JT

The descendants of Sargon of Akod.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * No quarter, no mercy at October 21, 2023 11:41 AM (Qm4V8)

44 Nobody can give you a good reason why there are ground troops in Syria.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 21, 2023 11:41 AM (R4t5M)

45
"Turkey will take part in peace talks next week to discuss ways to end the Ukraine conflict, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said Saturday, after speaking with Turkish counterpart Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
The Mediterranean Island of Malta announced Friday it would host a round of Ukraine peace talks on October 28-29, after similar meetings in Jeddah and Copenhagen earlier this year."
Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 11:38 AM (V13WU)

Question, will Zelensky be allowed to retire to St Helena island?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 11:42 AM (xhaym)

46 Paul, you ignorant slut.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 11:42 AM (u73oe)

47 Hope the innocent bystanders are seeing Leftists are antisemitic

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 11:43 AM (fwDg9)

48 Nobody can give you a good reason why there are ground troops in Syria.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at October 21, 2023 11:41 AM (R4t5M)

Ground troops in Syria? What is it?

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 21, 2023 11:44 AM (4I/2K)

49 Sorry for that, it's just become a bit tiring. I know, just mute the volume and let them enjoy their screaming and shouting.
Posted by: Son of Dad at October 21, 2023 11:37 AM (8JB5s)

I had to turn it off, not just because of the whooping, but because the music is horrid.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:44 AM (QBaJw)

50 Who names their kid Batya ?
Posted by: JT

The descendants of Sargon of Akod.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * No quarter, no mercy at October 21, 2023 11:41 AM (Qm4V

Oh.

Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 11:45 AM (T4tVD)

51 Of course, every few days Hamas will release a couple of hostages, and the United States and the EU will continue to pressure Israel not to launch the ground offensive, because Hamas is releasing hostages.

The long-term goal is to force Israel to call off the ground offensive.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 11:45 AM (2tUFv)

52 One minor quibble with the lady's rant: She says they all went to elite institutions, where they were infected with the woke mind virus, and can't tell right from wrong.

They can tell right from wrong; they just don't care.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2023 11:46 AM (I/Qkd)

53 Israel has its own problems with the disease of leftism also. Not every Israeli is on Israel's side.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 11:46 AM (BdMk6)

54 Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:40 AM (QBaJw)

Yes; That's true. We didn't discuss abortion but the hormone stuff is a local issue. It's happening in the schools.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2023 11:46 AM (RSbhh)

55 Chinese book ban: Will America survive our worst-ever "president's" policies simply because the Chinese leader is even worse? It's still a race to the bottom, and coming in second is no consolation.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 21, 2023 11:47 AM (VVlwS)

56 So its about 1600 miles.from Yemen to Israel. Just WTF kind of missiles were the Yemenis shooting and where did they get them?
We're now talking IRBMs, not some bullshit SCUDs. If so, this changes the game.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2023 11:47 AM (uSHSS)

57 Why do we have ground troops in Syria?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 11:39 AM (u73oe)

Why do we have any in Iraq? Does anyone doubt we have them still in Afghanistan? In Yemen? In Libya? In any number of other "hot spots" across the globe, not least of all, Ukraine?

It's like the RS song, "Sympathy For the Devil: 'Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name."

We're everywhere, sewing death.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:48 AM (QBaJw)

58 The long-term goal is to force Israel to call off the ground offensive.
Posted by: The ARC of History

I still think, irregardless of outside pressure, Israel will maintain the resolve to destroy the underground infrastructure of Ft. Gaza.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * No quarter, no mercy at October 21, 2023 11:49 AM (Qm4V8)

59 > US warship shot down 15 drones and four cruise missiles 'headed for Israel' during NINE-HOUR onslaught from Iranian-backed militants in Yemen
____________

And used up one quarter of its air-to-air missiles in doing so.

Also, several US bases in the Middle East (Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan) have come under attack, mostly by long range suicide drones. Likely built by Iran, launched by proxies elsewhere.

No retaliations for those attacks.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 21, 2023 11:49 AM (Q4IgG)

60 Yes; That's true. We didn't discuss abortion but the hormone stuff is a local issue. It's happening in the schools.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 21, 2023 11:46 AM (RSbhh)

How do ya make a hormone ?

Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 11:50 AM (T4tVD)

61 One minor quibble with the lady's rant: She says they all went to elite institutions, where they were infected with the woke mind virus, and can't tell right from wrong.

They can tell right from wrong; they just don't care.

Anyone who thinks humans don't have bloodlust should just be quiet.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2023 11:50 AM (I/Qkd)

62 As a ute, my mom's best friend, Jack, would always come visit once or twice a year and bring his wife and kids. Jack met my mom when she was living on the streets as a teenager and my mom had saved his sister from some other kids who were beating her up. Jack took my mom home with him and his family and they were best friends until the day they died. Jack ran the High Striker and duck shooting stands at Coney Island back then among other things. Jack was a short, strong, bulldozer of a man and a Jew.

Never Forget and Never Again.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 21, 2023 11:51 AM (R/m4+)

63 Roughly translated; it was a bad PR move to show the world that we actually will brutality eradicate the Jewish people from the earth by whatever means possible, just like we've been saying for years. Perhaps we should have been more discreet.

"Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation.”"

Exodus 32:10

Posted by: Marcus T at October 21, 2023 11:52 AM (ATSTk)

64 So its about 1600 miles.from Yemen to Israel. Just WTF kind of missiles were the Yemenis shooting and where did they get them?
We're now talking IRBMs, not some bullshit SCUDs. If so, this changes the game.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2023 11:47 AM (uSHSS)

Yemen has been at war for... what, a decade or so now? So called rebels, and the U.S. and Saudi backed "government," with so much death and destruction that nobody talks about.

Weapons on the ground, I'm sure many we supply end up in the hands of the rebels, and others are gotten on the black market, from the usual sources.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:52 AM (QBaJw)

65 The Shiprock in the top photo is one of those neat things Iin the US that you should go see.

It's the core of a volcano that weathered away.
Which is a huge time frame then.
27 million years.

Of course, the Navajo claim it as a religious place, so we can't study it. Even though it predates them by 26.999 million of years.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 21, 2023 11:52 AM (TzW+Y)

66 The Shiprock in the top photo is one of those neat things Iin the US that you should go see.

It's the core of a volcano that weathered away.

Are you sure? It looks like Godzilla's dorsal fin.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2023 11:54 AM (I/Qkd)

67 I still think, irregardless of outside pressure, Israel will maintain the resolve to destroy the underground infrastructure of Ft. Gaza.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * No quarter, no mercy at October 21, 2023 11:49 AM (Qm4V

Maybe so, but Gaza will be left alone at some point, and the people living there will get tax dollars from us, to rebuild.

And rebuild they will. Eventually running the whole thing again. And again. And again.

Until the nooks start falling.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:55 AM (QBaJw)

68 Also, several US bases in the Middle East (Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan) have come under attack, mostly by long range suicide drones. Likely built by Iran, launched by proxies elsewhere.

No retaliations for those attacks.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 21, 2023 11:49 AM (Q4IgG)

Never heard of a "suicide drone". Are the drones self-aware?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 11:56 AM (BdMk6)

69 As predicted, Sarah Silverman cuts and runs from her endorsement of making the Gazans pay for their crimes. What a profile in courage.

https://tinyurl.com/zej5w59w

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2023 11:56 AM (I/Qkd)

70 Never heard of a "suicide drone". Are the drones self-aware?

It's a commonly used phrase now.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 21, 2023 11:57 AM (I/Qkd)

71 Israel has delayed the Gaza invasion so long their casualties will be astronomical. Traps and IEDs everywhere. Maybe they should announce the invasion is off; wait until Hamas returns to northern Gaza and removes all the traps and IEDs so the "civilians" can return; and then go in.

Posted by: Hamas Homos at October 21, 2023 11:57 AM (qUkBO)

72 So, buried lead is Yemen has drones and missles that can travel 1500-ish miles to target?
This would be a substantial upgrade for them.

Posted by: Inogame at October 21, 2023 11:58 AM (D/9Qo)

73 I have wondered how long the graduates of Ivy League and Ivy League-adjacent schools would continue to enjoy an "elite" status in the eyes of the public.

These schools have always admitted the sons and daughters of the rich and powerful, but most people were admitted on the basis on sheer intellectual horsepower.

That's all gone - the sons and daughters of the rich and powerful are still admitted, but the remainder now are increasingly admitted on the basis of the number of intersectionality points they possess, rather than on the basis of academic talent.

Add to the fact that these schools are largely political monocultures, and that the admissions process prioritizes people who are already in that political monoculture, and there is no reason to view students as any sort of "elite".

The Gaza War is vastly accelerating public realization of how mediocre these students and institutions actually are.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 11:58 AM (2tUFv)

74 How do ya make a hormone ?
Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 11:50 AM (T4tVD)

—————

Don’t pay her?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 11:58 AM (u73oe)

75 Elon Musk removed New York Times' verification badge over repeated falsification of information.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 11:59 AM (xhaym)

76 Plumbing joints done, putting water back on to see if I did ok

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 11:59 AM (fwDg9)

77 > So its about 1600 miles.from Yemen to Israel. Just WTF kind of missiles were the Yemenis shooting and where did they get them?
We're now talking IRBMs, not some bullshit SCUDs. If so, this changes the game.
Posted by: Diogenes
_____________

The LACM's (land attack cruise missiles) are Iranian and have significant range... probably ~1500 miles. The suicide drones likewise. GPS navigation. Crude, but effective.

Some of the loitering munitions seen in Ukraine stay in the air for hours, sometimes half a day before striking a target.

The USAF flies UAVs/UACVs and whatnot that can stay airborne for days.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 21, 2023 12:00 PM (Q4IgG)

78 How do ya make a hormone ?
Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 11:50 AM (T4tVD)

—————

Don’t pay her?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 11:58 AM (u73oe)

Correct !

I thought I was gonna have a ZZTop beard before anyone answered !

Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 12:01 PM (T4tVD)

79 Two nincompoops with zero understanding of law give their idiotic childish wishes some publicity:

https://tinyurl.com/48yzbf3k

I know that Jackstraw has linked Technofrog on this - he didn't even express how bad that deal was for the prosecution - forced into a "speedy trial" - they had to make plea deals with Sidney Powell and Chesebro in order to prevent certain embarrassment - both got off with low rent Jaywalking charges and zero likelihood that they will ever testify in these cases again. Huge win for Trump and a humiliation for the prosecution - as many senior and knowledgeable prosecutors are pointing out. But never underestimate the ability of 20 something press kids to dream...

Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 12:02 PM (K+UlC)

80 Israel has delayed the Gaza invasion so long their casualties will be astronomical. Traps and IEDs everywhere.

I've wondered if Israel is planning some sort of head fake in Gaza. I very much doubt that they are planning a replay of the Battle of Bakhmut.

What they want to do is kill the Hamas leadership, which is still hiding in their bunkers - perhaps they are planning some stratagem to flush them out.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 12:03 PM (2tUFv)

81 Oh I see the range was already mentioned... should have read the comments first

Posted by: Inogame at October 21, 2023 12:03 PM (D/9Qo)

82 So, buried lead is Yemen has drones and missles that can travel 1500-ish miles to target?
This would be a substantial upgrade for them.
Posted by: Inogame at October 21, 2023 11:58 AM (D/9Qo)

I would say that Iran maintains long-range missiles and launch sites in Yemen. Yemen itself is a first-world muzzie shithole.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:03 PM (BdMk6)

83 Of course, the Navajo claim it as a religious place, so we can't study it. Even though it predates them by 26.999 million of years.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 21, 2023 11:52 AM (TzW+Y)

Mostly because nobody else much cares, the Navajo, and other tribes, live in this area, mostly unfazed by the nonsense happening around them. They supposedly got hit hard by Covid, but honestly, I assume most of them didn't much let that bother them, even if tribal "leaders" acted with the same kind of fascist/marxist behavior as other politicians.

If they want to claim the land as sacred, even charge tourists silly amounts of money to have them explain the religious aspects of it all, I don't have a problem with that.

I'm not going to pay for it myself, I can just drive past those sacred places, and get my own spiritual experience out of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:03 PM (QBaJw)

84 Poor stupid and indoctrinated Paul. You think you know quite a bit but it is all wrong.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 21, 2023 12:04 PM (17s+e)

85 My brother was visiting his kids and grandkids last week in Farmington, NM, about 40 miles from Shiprock. They watched through my nephew's welding helmet and some other filters he had. He said the temp dropped about 20 degrees when the sun was hidden. It was my six year old great nephew's first eclipse. He was pretty excited.

Posted by: huerfano at October 21, 2023 12:05 PM (Q4KYm)

86 Never heard of a "suicide drone". Are the drones self-aware?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 11:56 AM (BdMk6)

That's why we're so furiously trying to perfect A.I. So the drones and missiles and other instruments of war can feel what we feel when they explode and incinerate.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:05 PM (QBaJw)

87 Of course, the Navajo claim it as a religious place, so we can't study it.

Every square inch of the rural West is allegedly "sacred" to one tribe or another, and if you want to use it in any way, you need to figure out how you are going to pay off the local tribe.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 12:06 PM (2tUFv)

88 83 A couple years ago, coming back from AZ, I stopped at a Navajo Nation run gas station and they had an extra charge of a buck a gallon, just because.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:06 PM (0EOe9)

89 "Pigeons are birds, therefore all birds are pigeons." -- Paul

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 21, 2023 12:06 PM (AiZBA)

90 60
How do ya make a hormone ?

Posted by: JT at October 21, 2023 11:50 AM (T4tVD)
----
Back in my high school days it was ' Don't pay her."
Do you have another punchline?

Posted by: Ciampino - and it makes you sneeze! (Bob Newhart on Sir Walter Raleigh) at October 21, 2023 12:09 PM (qfLjt)

91 Add to the fact that these schools are largely political monocultures, and that the admissions process prioritizes people who are already in that political monoculture, and there is no reason to view students as any sort of "elite".

The Gaza War is vastly accelerating public realization of how mediocre these students and institutions actually are.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 11:58 AM (2tUFv)

All too true, and the few cases of "backlash" against the idiot students are richly satisfying.

But the horse is already out of the barn. Those "elites" are running everything, with all those former students, including a vast amount of Of Color and other intersectionals, have gained power that will resonate throughout this country for decades to come.

Even if we cut off the spigot now, root out the rot, maybe even have those schools crumble somehow, the damage is done. They run everything.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:10 PM (QBaJw)

92 Iran's suicide drone are good enough that Russian has been buying them by the truckload for use in Ukraine. They're basically a large propeller driven R/C like thing... large enough to need a semi to move around and need something akin to a catapult to launch. They don't have landing gear as they ain't going to be landing again.

There's a bunch of photos on the web of the various drones Iran has cobbled together. And remember, a highly secretive RQ-170 stealth drone we were using over Iran was brought down and reverse engineered (to some degree) and copies of it have surfaced elsewhere.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 21, 2023 12:10 PM (Q4IgG)

93 Blew a joint, waiting for water to drain out to try again

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 12:11 PM (fwDg9)

94 Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:32 AM

It's from a photographer who got permission from the Navajos to do the time lapse.

Posted by: KT at October 21, 2023 12:11 PM (rrtZS)

95 Every square inch of the rural West is allegedly "sacred" to one tribe or another, and if you want to use it in any way, you need to figure out how you are going to pay off the local tribe.

A classic example of this is that a company wants to build a pumped electrical storage unit on the Columbia, where water is pumped uphill to a bluff in times of low demand, and used to generate electricity during periods of high demand.

The land is sacred to the Yakama tribe, of course.

For decades, there was a freaking aluminum smelter on the site, which apparently did nothing to reduce the sacredness of the land while it was operating.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 12:12 PM (2tUFv)

96 This might get me in trouble. One of the most sacred places for Navajos is the Circle K that starts selling beer at 0600. Besides getting crushed with the covid, alcoholism seems to be a big problem, more so than with other Tribes/Nations.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:12 PM (0EOe9)

97 Huge win for Trump and a humiliation for the prosecution - as many senior and knowledgeable prosecutors are pointing out. But never underestimate the ability of 20 something press kids to dream...
Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 12:02 PM (K+UlC)

Perhaps so, but I don't trust that ambulance chasing shyster, Powell, farther than I can throw her.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:13 PM (QBaJw)

98 Martini Farmer,
Good catch. I misread the story.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2023 12:14 PM (uSHSS)

99 Those "elites" are running everything, with all those former students, including a vast amount of Of Color and other intersectionals, have gained power that will resonate throughout this country for decades to come.

True. The State Department rank-and-file is apparently on the verge of revolt, because we're not backing Hamas.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 12:14 PM (2tUFv)

100 Do you feel like we do?

Posted by: Suicide drone at October 21, 2023 12:14 PM (63Dwl)

101 "Suicide drone" is one of the stupidest terms I've seen used so far to describe a weapon. It's right up there with "100 clip black assault gun with a thing that goes up".

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:16 PM (BdMk6)

102 88 83 A couple years ago, coming back from AZ, I stopped at a Navajo Nation run gas station and they had an extra charge of a buck a gallon, just because.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:06 PM (0EOe9)

Yeah, during one of my trips not that long ago, I went into the wrong gas station, and was told everyone must mask up.

The clerk wasn't rude about it, she suggested I use the station across the street. Which I did.

I wasn't getting gas (I was... eh... giving gas?), so I'm not sure about the price difference. It's good to know though, which stations to avoid.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:18 PM (QBaJw)

103 Perhaps so, but I don't trust that ambulance chasing shyster, Powell, farther than I can throw her.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:13 PM (QBaJw)

Whatever her reputation is not withstanding - her legal team were pretty smart here - they forced the prosecution into a speedy trial scenario that, having limited or problematic evidence of any crime at all, were forced to make a deal quickly to save some face, any face at all. And that deal was so laugh out loud bad for them given all the hype the DA office had made prior to it - its just really more an embarrassing indictment of their case rather than Sydney Powell.

Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 12:21 PM (K+UlC)

104 This is terrible. I gave up my parking space under the ramada because we A. Had some parking space wars going on. B. I didn't want to be involved in that circus. C. Being an old crip, I park right by my door. Now, I came home after hitting the best car wash evah and realize that covered parking would make the premier wash last longer.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:22 PM (0EOe9)

105 The Nazis started to hide their crimes after discovering the mass graves of 22,000 Polish prisoners, military and political, murdered by Stalin's NKVD at Katyn.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:22 PM (Lxb1Q)

106 This might get me in trouble. One of the most sacred places for Navajos is the Circle K that starts selling beer at 0600. Besides getting crushed with the covid, alcoholism seems to be a big problem, more so than with other Tribes/Nations.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:12 PM (0EOe9)

Sadly, you're not wrong.

It's a cliche to talk about the drunk Native American hovering around asking for change.

There are lots of cliches shuffling around these areas.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:23 PM (QBaJw)

107 We got stuck in the Navajo Nation annual fair in Chintle, AZ this past September towing our travel trailer. They set it up on the only main road through that part of the county/rez. It's a state road and traffic was stopped for 3.5 hrs. I'm surprised we made it through without running out of fuel and any damage. There were thousands of people attending. Absolutely no traffic control present. Fuck those clowns and their fry bread.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 21, 2023 12:23 PM (l10hq)

108 Praying every day Neal.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2023 12:24 PM (uSHSS)

109 True. The State Department rank-and-file is apparently on the verge of revolt, because we're not backing Hamas.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 21, 2023 12:14 PM (2tUFv)

That doesn't bother me at all. Good. Let's have it out. Let's stop pretending we're the "united" states.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:24 PM (QBaJw)

110 Less power = more noble.

Sounds like Rousseau's 'Noble Savage' twaddle repackaged.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:25 PM (Lxb1Q)

111 3 Blew a joint, waiting for water to drain out to try again good luck I hate plumbing

Posted by: doug at October 21, 2023 12:26 PM (8/lc0)

112 And that deal was so laugh out loud bad for them given all the hype the DA office had made prior to it - its just really more an embarrassing indictment of their case rather than Sydney Powell.
Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 12:21 PM (K+UlC)

Yeah, I'm kinda separating the legal case from the fact she's a shitty human being, and I expect she'll soon be making deals with whoever will pay her. And I expect the highest bidders will be people who can get her to badmouth Trump.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:26 PM (QBaJw)

113 This is terrible. I gave up my parking space under the ramada because we A. Had some parking space wars going on. B. I didn't want to be involved in that circus. C. Being an old crip, I park right by my door. Now, I came home after hitting the best car wash evah and realize that covered parking would make the premier wash last longer.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:22 PM (0EOe9)

You need to suggest this for the First World Problems thread for tomorrow.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:27 PM (BdMk6)

114 As much of a shit everyone in the current WH is,
Their generation is still nominally pro West. 20 years from Now when todays’s 25 year olds start gaining positions of power, look the fuck out.

Posted by: Montec at October 21, 2023 12:29 PM (MSTeL)

115 If you had a drone and it didn't come back, it's a suicide drone.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 21, 2023 12:30 PM (MeG8a)

116 Also, remember if traveling through NM or AZ, and you happen to be on some of that sacred tribal land, the tribal cops can kinda make up the rules as they go along, especially second amendment stuff. Of course, NM has a governor that does it too.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:31 PM (0EOe9)

117 You need to suggest this for the First World Problems thread for tomorrow.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:27 PM (BdMk6)

Speaking of first world problems, it pisses me off when various entities make you go "paperless" with their billing. Which means, unless I print their damn bill off myself, there's a chance I'll forget about it, and incur a late fee.

Because I'm sure as shit not going to do automatic withdrawal from my bank.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:32 PM (QBaJw)

118 If at first you don't succeed, keep trying you'll get it right.
It can be lunch time.

Oh wait, it's Saturday lunch is anytime

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 12:32 PM (fwDg9)

119 And just a week ago in Syria, a UASF F-16C shot down an armed Turkish drone that was near US forces.

It is going to get out of hand.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:33 PM (Lxb1Q)

120 Israel has given enough warning for non combatants to get out of northern Gaza. Anyone still there either can’t or won’t leave. Time to bring in the artillery and pulverize it grid square by grid square.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 12:35 PM (u73oe)

121 If you had a drone and it didn't come back, it's a suicide drone.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 21, 2023 12:30 PM (MeG8a)

I had one of those.

As far as I know though, she's still out there, but has been slowly committing suicide since not long after she was born.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:35 PM (QBaJw)

122 119 Anna Puma, glad you are here. I'm sure you know that our ANG base in Fort Smith will be a AF training site for F35s. A couple days ago, I saw what might have been an F35 in the pattern coming in. Red, maybe burnt orange wing tips, a few feet back. A trainer?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:36 PM (0EOe9)

123 Absolutely no traffic control present. Fuck those clowns and their fry bread.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 21, 2023 12:23 PM (l10hq)


Same here with the Washington State Rennaissance Faire. Piss-Poor traffic control on the o e road in and out. Unfortunately I live off that road. Huge pain in the butt.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2023 12:36 PM (uSHSS)

124 The comic strip Charlie Brown updated for modern times - its a drone eating tree Charlie Brown,

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:37 PM (Lxb1Q)

125 JJ's and CBD's podcast with Walsh is very good.

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 12:37 PM (V13WU)

126 Also, remember if traveling through NM or AZ, and you happen to be on some of that sacred tribal land, the tribal cops can kinda make up the rules as they go along, especially second amendment stuff. Of course, NM has a governor that does it too.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:31 PM (0EOe9)

So far I've never had to deal with tribal cops. It's bad enough dealing with the state troopers, but I've discovered they generally patrol near the towns, so if you don't sufficiently slow down in their speed zones, they'll pull you over, but mostly seem to leave you alone in between.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:37 PM (QBaJw)

127 And I expect the highest bidders will be people who can get her to badmouth Trump.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:26 PM (QBaJw)

I get that, sure. But, since Trump was not a party to her and Chesebro's so called 'misdemeanors', she can't testify against Trump on anything going forward. So, her attorneys did Trump and the other defendants a solid, really. And that was what made this plea deal so bad for the DA - it had nothing to do with their main case and they got nothing for their efforts.

Maybe Powell bad mouths Trump going forward, who knows what people do - but it will have no effect on the DA's case against Trump.

Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 12:37 PM (K+UlC)

128 ...won't put you to sleep...

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 12:38 PM (V13WU)

129 I like the podcasts and try not to miss any. Guests lately have been excellent

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 12:39 PM (fwDg9)

130 And just a week ago in Syria, a UASF F-16C shot down an armed Turkish drone that was near US forces.

It is going to get out of hand.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:33 PM (Lxb1Q)

I have to admit that drones are some of the best strategic assets a military could have. Very few downsides to drone warfare.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:39 PM (BdMk6)

131 130 I'm in my 70s, and who knows how much longer I have, but I will see air to air combat with drones. It's coming on fast.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:42 PM (0EOe9)

132 Not sure what you saw Bill.

USAF tends to go for all white aircraft for trainers. Think the T-6 IIs are white/black. Red/orange is usually added for test aircraft or aerial targets.

USN goes for white with Red/orange.

RAF trainers are gloss black.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:44 PM (Lxb1Q)

133 Also, remember if traveling through NM or AZ, and you happen to be on some of that sacred tribal land, the tribal cops can kinda make up the rules as they go along, especially second amendment stuff. Of course, NM has a governor that does it too.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:31 PM (0EOe9)

I've had to deal with tribal cops here in OK on several occasions. Never had a problem.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:45 PM (BdMk6)

134 >>
Same here with the Washington State Rennaissance Faire. Piss-Poor traffic control on the o e road in and out. Unfortunately I live off that road. Huge pain in the butt.
Posted by: Diogenes

We've actually got caught up in that cluster a few years ago. We live in Lk Stevens. My sympathies.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 21, 2023 12:45 PM (l10hq)

135 A crashed drone is more deniable than a crashed jet. Just ask Francis Gary Powers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:47 PM (Lxb1Q)

136 Suicide drones.....

Israel has some too. "Harop" One of the Iranian copycat drones is of this one. It's a common design. For a suicide drone.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 21, 2023 12:47 PM (Q4IgG)

137 I've had to deal with tribal cops here in OK on several occasions. Never had a problem.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:45 PM (BdMk6)

—————

How?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 12:47 PM (u73oe)

138 If your dog runs away is it a suicide dog?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 21, 2023 12:48 PM (63Dwl)

139 If you love your drone, set it free...

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 12:49 PM (u73oe)

140 Did Gaylord's dog runaway?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:50 PM (Lxb1Q)

141 132 Sun was shining, but the wing tips were visible. Going down memory lane it was an orange or red, going back a few feet from wing tip. We see a lot of F16 traffic and once in awhile some F18s, but this looked like an F35. Like I said, it's going to be a training base both for USAF and also Singapore AF.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:50 PM (0EOe9)

142 Many people in The Horde have been worried about Neal in Israel
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What am I? Chopped liver?!?!?!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 21, 2023 12:52 PM (2ShPH)

143 Great blog

Posted by: MAC V SOG at October 21, 2023 12:52 PM (P4Pk9)

144 If you love your drone, set it free...
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 12:49 PM (u73oe)

Never tell your drone that the relationship is over. It's suicide will haunt you for the rest of your life.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 12:53 PM (BdMk6)

145 Maybe Powell bad mouths Trump going forward, who knows what people do - but it will have no effect on the DA's case against Trump.
Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 12:37 PM (K+UlC)

Yes, and I'm certainly not following closely, any of the legal stuff. Mostly because I figure the cases are going to turn out badly for Trump. Not because he did anything for which he should be convicted, but because the legal system is broken beyond repair.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:53 PM (QBaJw)

146 What am I? Chopped liver?!?!?!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 21, 2023 12:52 PM (2ShPH)



lol

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 12:54 PM (V13WU)

147 That's the purpose of the two-week reminder I put in the thread.

But they were surprised at the backlash they got, even from parts of the Arab world.
Posted by: KT at October 21, 2023 11:29 AM (rrtZS)

I think what horrified and disgusted people of good will was the sadistic joy the Hamas terrorists displayed while they gunned-down down, burnt alive, and dismembered children.

If you accept the Hamas claim that they are guerrillas valiantly resisting Israeli oppression (they're not, but that's a different discussion), military targets and personnel would be legitimate objectives. But invading people's homes, slaughtering them and then gleefully broadcasting the "snuff films" is causing some cognitive dissonance to those inclined to believe Hamas.

I believe that is why you are seeing more people speaking out this time against the avowed supporters of Hamas. The scale of the slaughter and the barbarity has caused some people to re-evaluate their views.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 21, 2023 12:54 PM (pJWtt)

148 How?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 12:47 PM (u73oe)

How? I'll tell you how, they....

Ohhhh, I get it. Nevermind.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:54 PM (QBaJw)

149
What am I? Chopped liver?!?!?!
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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You know better. Been following all of your comments, and your circumstances, and updates, all have been very much in mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2023 12:54 PM (XeU6L)

150 Powers may well have been sacrificed to hide that the US was aware that the Soviets were in no way at nuclear parity with the West.

But that is a conspiracy theory wild tenrative working hypothesis

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 12:56 PM (xhaym)

151 That's why we're so furiously trying to perfect A.I. So the drones and missiles and other instruments of war can feel what we feel when they explode and incinerate.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:05 PM (QBaJw)

so we can LARP Darkstar.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 12:57 PM (xhaym)

152 You know better.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2023 12:54 PM (XeU6L)
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I kid! I kid.

Uneventful Shabbat in Jerusalem but we keep hearing those booms and thuds elsewhere.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at October 21, 2023 12:57 PM (2ShPH)

153 I believe that is why you are seeing more people speaking out this time against the avowed supporters of Hamas. The scale of the slaughter and the barbarity has caused some people to re-evaluate their views.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 21, 2023 12:54 PM (pJWtt)

Now, what happens when people forget all that, and turn on Israel for being the bigger, badder bully?

The p.r. campaign is still only in Phase II. We ain't seen nothin' yet.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:58 PM (QBaJw)

154 I was going to make a comment but every comment I could make has already been made.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 21, 2023 01:01 PM (vO+yX)

155 But the horse is already out of the barn. Those "elites" are running everything, with all those former students, including a vast amount of Of Color and other intersectionals, have gained power that will resonate throughout this country for decades to come.

Even if we cut off the spigot now, root out the rot, maybe even have those schools crumble somehow, the damage is done. They run everything.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:10 PM (QBaJw)

One of the subtexts of the Cyberpunk genre is the distribution or decentralization of power due to technological change, and irrelevancy of former power centers through transformation of the transformation of the world due to technology.
The silliness comes from everyone playing the same game while the board had radically changed. and of course the drama is from the attempt to seize power back, or from the distributed nodes.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 01:01 PM (xhaym)

156 Israel has seen more heads of state and FMs in the last two weeks than the UN headquarters. Why don't they just stay home and keep their mouth shut, quit meddling ?

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 01:01 PM (V13WU)

157 >>>Israel has delayed the Gaza invasion so long their casualties will be astronomical. Traps and IEDs everywhere.

I've wondered if Israel is planning some sort of head fake in Gaza. I very much doubt that they are planning a replay of the Battle of Bakhmut.

What they want to do is kill the Hamas leadership, which is still hiding in their bunkers - perhaps they are planning some stratagem to flush them out.

Posted by: The ARC of History!

>Stop pussy-footing around! Give fair warning to evacuate, pump those tunnels full of an air-fuel mixture and raze the fucking place into the earth. That's Part I. Next time, Part II, there will be no warning.

Proportional response is a reoccurring itch in my tactical trousers. In for an inch, in for a mile.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 21, 2023 01:01 PM (KVGVf)

158 I know the old saying "you can't have too many guns" but at my age I have a couple or so I can live without. Sure wish there was a way to donate to some Israeli. The NRA had a program during WW2 where some guns were donated to the British home guard.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 01:02 PM (0EOe9)

159 Okay - I have to ask - what is with these black beans growing on or out of people already? I mean - its gross and weird and I am seeing this in ads everywhere - make it stop!

Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 01:03 PM (K+UlC)

160 Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:05 PM (QBaJw)

so we can LARP Darkstar.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 12:57 PM (xhaym)

Perhaps so. Here on Earth though.

I have this sick joke I tell myself, which makes me laugh, that one day our bombs will be so sentient, when they explode or incinerate, instead of making the sound of matter being forced outward at supersonic speed, they'll have speakers that have them screaming and crying in agony.

"Oww, that hurts," the bomb explained.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 01:03 PM (QBaJw)

161 JPost says Gaza is still launching 500 rockets a day. Astonishing.
https://tinyurl.com/4ty7tfks

Posted by: Filesystem /gp Corrupted at October 21, 2023 01:03 PM (MvF+J)

162 I read (in the foreign press) that hustage negotiation (Qatar, US, savages, and Israel - who was not negotiating directly) fell through.

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 01:03 PM (V13WU)

163 The p.r. campaign is still only in Phase II. We ain't seen nothin' yet.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:58 PM (QBaJw)

—————-

Hamas already has pictures of dead babies ready to go.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 01:03 PM (u73oe)

164
Even if we cut off the spigot now, root out the rot, maybe even have those schools crumble somehow, the damage is done. They run everything.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 12:10 PM (QBaJw)

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If you think Federal Judges are leftists now, wait until you see future appointments from "all the best schools" such as Stanford, Harvard,...

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 21, 2023 01:06 PM (XMxl2)

165 Did Gaylord's dog runaway?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 21, 2023 12:50 PM (Lxb1Q)

No, but his chef apparently did, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 01:07 PM (xhaym)

166 If you love your drone, set it free...
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 12:49 PM (u73oe)

If it doesn’t come back, hunt it down and kill it.

Posted by: Buzz Adrenaline at October 21, 2023 01:09 PM (wu87C)

167 131 130 I'm in my 70s, and who knows how much longer I have, but I will see air to air combat with drones. It's coming on fast.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 12:42 PM (0EOe9)
----
Yep. It'll start with drone hunter-killers as per submarine warfare, stealth drones better than the current ones, bigger for larger payloads and smaller for stealth and economy.
Then they'll reach a stalemate and someone will put a human pilot in one as an edge. I did read a sci-fi story were our computer was fighting their computer; then stalemate; then superiority when someone on our side was able to do long division by hand. Funny.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's a type of bean Wal? (Bob Newhart on Sir Walter Raleigh) at October 21, 2023 01:09 PM (qfLjt)

168 I believe that is why you are seeing more people speaking out this time against the avowed supporters of Hamas. The scale of the slaughter and the barbarity has caused some people to re-evaluate their views.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at October 21, 2023 12:54 PM (pJWtt)

What they did was the plot for some of those B action movies with the terrorists assaulting some shopping center or Midwestern Town or school. This is a situation that the general public has been "primed" to realize it is a bad thing. Having the facial pierced brigade chant death to Israel is not a winning move on its own.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 01:11 PM (xhaym)

169
75 Elon Musk removed New York Times' verification badge over repeated falsification of information.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 11:59 AM (xhaym)

////

Makes my day!

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 21, 2023 01:12 PM (9ErqI)

170 As said on CJN Speaks, Sidney might be a top authority on vote fraud, but I too have to wonder if the Dominion threat to sue her into the ground had something to do with shutting her down.

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 01:13 PM (fwDg9)

171 They will finally say the hell with it and launch a new Robin Olds with internals and gun pods. And winders. And snake and nape.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 01:14 PM (0EOe9)

172

Do not like the jazz trio version of the Toccata... Technically superb, but emotionally ick...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at October 21, 2023 01:14 PM (eCSz+)

173 Hmm, I was just now trying to remember how to do long division by hand. I need a refresher.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 21, 2023 01:14 PM (MeG8a)

174 Still pissed that I missed the eclipse. Always will be.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 21, 2023 01:14 PM (vRGOa)

175 From Tech blog
'Law & Order' creator Dick Wolf threatens to pull funding from UPenn unless president resigns amid Israel-Hamas response backlash, CNN reports

https://is.gd/PBHBd0

Posted by: Ciampino - All those liberal PO Shiites at October 21, 2023 01:15 PM (qfLjt)

176 The backers of Hamas are not 'concerned' about the actions of Hamas.

The backers of Hamas *are* concerned that the actions of Hamas are making the backers of Hamas look bad.

Posted by: davidt at October 21, 2023 01:15 PM (SYTee)

177 Why do we have ground troops in Syria?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 21, 2023 11:39 AM (u73oe)

US deep state wants to replace Assad with Al Qaeda.

Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2023 01:15 PM (Dnobf)

178 Did we bomb the snit out of the launch sites ? No ? So how is this a positive thing ?
Posted by: Next2Nothing at October 21, 2023 11:21 AM (tA1/w)

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This is all part of Biden's ongoing military depletion.

Posted by: JM in Ill -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at October 21, 2023 01:15 PM (9ErqI)

179 The USAF is experimenting with what they call "Loyal Wingman." It's basically a pilotless drone that's fairly autonomous yet can be controlled (to some degree) by the pilot in a conventional fighter jet. The Air Force would like to have several of these drones fly with, and in support of manned platforms to do things like jamming, decoys, attack, recon, refueling, etc.

Prototypes of these things are already flying.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 21, 2023 01:16 PM (Q4IgG)

180 156 Israel has seen more heads of state and FMs in the last two weeks than the UN headquarters. Why don't they just stay home and keep their mouth shut, quit meddling ?
Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 01:01 PM (V13WU)

Maybe because Israel wants to see them?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 21, 2023 01:17 PM (vRGOa)

181 WW II trench shotguns and 1917 Colt .45 revolvers. We're getting in the short rows now.

Posted by: Eromero at October 21, 2023 01:18 PM (RSrJa)

182 The backers of Hamas are not 'concerned' about the actions of Hamas.

The backers of Hamas *are* concerned that the actions of Hamas are making the backers of Hamas look bad.
Posted by: davidt at October 21, 2023 01:15 PM (SYTee)

They willingly let the rattlesnake crawl into the sleeping bag with them.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 01:19 PM (BdMk6)

183 Come to think of it, a lot of the James Bond films were about the battle against small groups attempting decentralization of power via technological change, stealing influence or power, or even forcing the former powers into irrelevancy by superseding their ability to act.

James Bond is the anti-cyberpunk genre!

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 01:19 PM (xhaym)

184 Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 21, 2023 12:23 PM

My uncle was the postmaster in Chinle for a couple of years back in the 1970s. He lived in a travel trailer during the week and drove back to Farmington, NM to see his family on weekends.

Posted by: huerfano at October 21, 2023 01:20 PM (Q4KYm)

185 I know the old saying "you can't have too many guns" but at my age I have a couple or so I can live without. Sure wish there was a way to donate to some Israeli. The NRA had a program during WW2 where some guns were donated to the British home guard.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 21, 2023 01:02 PM (0EOe9)

Concur. All the guns the ATF, IRS, FCC, ICC, EPA, FDA, CDC and DOE have should all be given to Israel along with all their ammo too.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 21, 2023 01:22 PM (R/m4+)

186 Has Senile Joe's gravitas started kicking in yet(

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 21, 2023 01:22 PM (vO+yX)

187 As said on CJN Speaks, Sidney might be a top authority on vote fraud, but I too have to wonder if the Dominion threat to sue her into the ground had something to do with shutting her down.
Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 01:13 PM (fwDg9)

It's not hard to get defendants to quit talking when faced with millions in legal expenses to defend yourself against frivolous lawsuits. In the GA RICO case, she could have fought it and it would surely cost her a few million as the DA stretched this out with unlimited resources - even if it looked like it was always going to result in some sort of defeat for the DA. But her legal team got her a quick deal that excluded Trump and others.

Posted by: Boswell at October 21, 2023 01:23 PM (K+UlC)

188 Why do we have any in Iraq? Does anyone doubt we have them still in Afghanistan? In Yemen? In Libya? In any number of other "hot spots" across the globe, not least of all, Ukraine?

It's like the RS song, "Sympathy For the Devil: 'Pleased to meet you, hope you guess my name."

We're everywhere, sewing death.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:48 AM (QBaJw)

Tell me you are anti-American without saying you are anti-American. (Yeah, I ‘m not happy with ground forces in Syria, for example, but that last sentence is a bridge too far.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 21, 2023 01:24 PM (vRGOa)

189 James Bond is the anti-cyberpunk genre!
Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 01:19 PM (xhaym)

With a lot of hot chicks.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 01:24 PM (BdMk6)

190 NOOD

Gardening thread is up.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 21, 2023 01:25 PM (qPw5n)

191 Drone warfare in the future?

Read Steven Pressfield’s The Profession . This fictional story set in the 2030’s is very prescient.

Posted by: Drive by at October 21, 2023 01:26 PM (MNhXM)

192 Correction: Gardening AND puttering thread.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at October 21, 2023 01:26 PM (qPw5n)

193 Concur. All the guns the ATF, IRS, FCC, ICC, EPA, FDA, CDC and DOE have should all be given to Israel along with all their ammo too.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 21, 2023 01:22 PM (R/m4+)

Along with their body armor and armored vehicles.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 21, 2023 01:26 PM (BdMk6)

194 Tell me you are anti-American without saying you are anti-American. (Yeah, I ‘m not happy with ground forces in Syria, for example, but that last sentence is a bridge too far.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 21, 2023 01:24 PM (vRGOa)

The Neocon's version of anti-American, or someone else's version of anti-American?
Remember, it took 30 years and untold wealth and blood spilled to replace the Taliban with the Taliban. That is hardly a reason to wave a flag and chant. I mean, for us.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 21, 2023 01:28 PM (xhaym)

195 We're everywhere, sewing death.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:48 AM (QBaJw)

Tell me you are anti-American without saying you are anti-American. (Yeah, I ‘m not happy with ground forces in Syria, for example, but that last sentence is a bridge too far.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at October 21, 2023 01:24 PM (vRGOa)

Oh, I don't think it goes far enough.

Evil is evil. Whether it's waving a nazzie flag or the stars and stripes.

And if you claim to love this country, then stop defending it.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 01:33 PM (QBaJw)

196 The NRA had a program during WW2 where some guns were donated to the British home guard.

I read something the other day that said that because the Germans never invaded obviously, the British stashed them all in warehouses, and once the war was over, despite many of the donated guns being tagged for eventual return, loaded them in barges and dumped them at sea. The whole thing was mostly an opinion op. The average American did not see what went on in Europe as their problem as pre-WW2 the US was basically safe due to the oceans. They had no idea that science was about to change that within a decade.

Posted by: Azjaeger at October 21, 2023 01:37 PM (3/XaG)

197 89 degrees in Texss, looks like nice there

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 01:38 PM (fwDg9)

198 Hmm, I was just now trying to remember how to do long division by hand. I need a refresher.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
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Since you're warmed up, find a couple of square roots by hand.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 21, 2023 01:40 PM (XeU6L)

199 Evil is evil. Whether it's waving a nazzie flag or the stars and stripes.

And if you claim to love this country, then stop defending it.
-
This.

What the federal government and its co-conspirators are today has nothing to do with the values America was founded on, so no patriotic American owes them any support, much less loyalty.

Posted by: Methos at October 21, 2023 01:40 PM (Dnobf)

200 Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 01:33 PM (QBaJw

You can have any opinion you want but you don’t get to declare them facts. In my book you just joined Paul as another long time troll who doesn’t have the ability to make logical comparisons .

Posted by: Drive by at October 21, 2023 01:40 PM (MNhXM)

201 Hmm, I was just now trying to remember how to do long division by hand. I need a refresher.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
--------

Since you're warmed up, find a couple of square roots by hand.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
--------

*?*

What does 'by hand' mean? And, why would anyone try to calculate a square root without a smartphone?

Posted by: Gen Z at October 21, 2023 01:44 PM (XeU6L)

202 You can have any opinion you want but you don’t get to declare them facts. In my book you just joined Paul as another long time troll who doesn’t have the ability to make logical comparisons .
Posted by: Drive by at October 21, 2023 01:40 PM (MNhXM)

And you're a new nic around here. No doubt you've worn out your welcome here before, and will again.

Bye.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 01:47 PM (QBaJw)

203 Italian chick was pretty good.

I wonder how she could handle two balls.
IYKWIMAITYD...

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 21, 2023 01:57 PM (ufFY8)

204 My phone seems to solve any thinking of problems I have

Posted by: Skip at October 21, 2023 02:31 PM (fwDg9)

205 Maybe because Israel wants to see them?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Considering BribeMe was told to GFO, I doubt that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 21, 2023 02:38 PM (IG4Id)

206 There’s a dude I went to college with who is Jewish. On LinkedIn, during the Trump years he posted all about how Trump was the most worst person ever.

Post Hamas attacks, he has posted how he is shocked and angered that so few people in his network are publicity outraged by Hamas.

It’s like really? You’re shocked that your hard left peeps hate Jews and support Hamas? A real head scratcher there my man.
Posted by: Montec at October 21, 2023 11:35 AM (fSFcR)
===

This happened to me post-9/11

Shocked at how anti-American my fellow travelers were.

Posted by: Sgt. Yamana at October 21, 2023 02:45 PM (RIvkX)

207 /12th Precinct sock off

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 21, 2023 02:45 PM (RIvkX)

208 what is CBD's email ? I can't get into archive threads...

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 03:02 PM (V13WU)

209 to get the email, I know it;s in the food thread BUT NONE WOULD OPEN

Posted by: runner at October 21, 2023 03:03 PM (V13WU)

210 Shocked at how anti-American my fellow travelers were.

If you like that feeling, you can get it here in Spades every day.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 21, 2023 03:04 PM (4PZHB)

211 My phone seems to solve any thinking of problems I have
Posted by: Skip
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A friend of mine calls Gen Z's smartphones 'Their god-pod'.

Posted by: Gen Z at October 21, 2023 03:14 PM (XeU6L)

212 (Bloomberg) -- The US conducted a high-explosive experiment at a nuclear test site in Nevada just hours after Russia revoked a ban on atomic-weapons testing, prompting concerns of a new arms race between the world’s top nuclear powers.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at October 21, 2023 03:42 PM (/qa9n)

213 It's shocking that only after world opinion moved against them that these animals began having second thoughts against perpetrating those atrocities.

The atrocities themselves were no problem morally for them, they just presented a PR problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 21, 2023 04:00 PM (BPrjO)

214 152 I kid! I kid.

Uneventful Shabbat in Jerusalem but we keep hearing those booms and thuds elsewhere.
Posted by: Biden's Dog

Of course! We're just glad when any of our Israel-dwelling 'rons keep us up on how they are.

Posted by: Barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at October 21, 2023 04:05 PM (hBG3V)

215
The US conducted a high-explosive experiment at a nuclear test site in Nevada just hours after Russia revoked a ban on atomic-weapons testing, prompting concerns of a new arms race between the world’s top nuclear powers.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but? at October 21, 2023 03:42 PM

My local electric utility has been hardening the system all summer. I've seen them everywhere. I suspect against an EMP attack. It's not tough to break the connection every couple of miles and dump the voltage into the ground. Harmlessly.

Posted by: Public Service Announcement at October 21, 2023 04:14 PM (enJYY)

216 I see the glorious elite A-listers in Hollywood are joining together to urge Prezzy Biden to bring peace to the Middle East. Well Hell! There we are! Just needed the vast intellect of the SAG membership to point the way.
*sarc*

Psssstttt!!! Hey Hollywood, he only listens if you include a check with that letter.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 21, 2023 04:21 PM (uSHSS)

217 Never had considered Yemen's range to be that far north.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 21, 2023 04:28 PM (Hk1yf)

218 Forensic accounting expert Linda Miller testified to members of Congress this week that up to *HALF* of pandemic relief fraud was stolen by United States adversaries like China and Russia.
_____

*adjusts tinfoil hat*
I wouldn't be surprised if this was done on purpose to buy China's silence on Fauci's funding of the virus. Russia also getting money I would still chalk up to incompetence, even though US does seem to have a habit of funding both sides of a conflict.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 21, 2023 04:33 PM (fs1hN)

219 >>>I saw a little meme the other day, a photo showing missiles being intercepted in the sky. Under the interceptors, a caption: "Your tax dollars." Under the missiles: "Also your tax dollars."

Posted by: BurtTC at October 21, 2023 11:26 AM (QBaJw)
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I blasted that one out.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 21, 2023 04:55 PM (Hk1yf)

220 t's shocking that only after world opinion moved against them that these animals began having second thoughts against perpetrating those atrocities.

The atrocities themselves were no problem morally for them, they just presented a PR problem.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 21, 2023 04:00 PM (BPrjO

That was made so clear in that ‘ tough’ tv interview by the Arab woman. It’s all about perception . But the Hamas talking head was so possessed by demonic hatred and desire for vengeance that he couldn’t even accept that intentionally murdering babies and others is wrong. It’s all acceptable to him as collateral damage , even though there was nothing collateral about it.

Posted by: LASue at October 21, 2023 05:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

221 We all know there famous story of Israel hunting down the masterminds of the Munich attack, even though it took years.

Hopefully they have that same determination this time, and maybe extend it to also just hunting down all hands supporters, though it seems they'll have their hands full with the amount the US is currently harboring.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 21, 2023 06:33 PM (TUUQs)

222

https://is.gd/N0KCEY
sorry 2 redirect to Another site,
this is LSA + attack on a jew.

I need to learn how
to search + make short Url's.
also, whatever makes browser
flagged by Cloud Flare.
It's ME, Mrs V, it seems
hard to be noticed in group.
Been disabled + getting
further along that path--

Posted by: zigzag at October 21, 2023 07:55 PM (K0k8F)

223

https://is.gd/WzCkGU

link: TheCOVIDblog
100 Kenyan students
have Vax reaction

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