Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-05-2021

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Main Reading Room, Library of Parliament, Ottawa, ON, Canada

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which I guess don't look so bad, but these guys look like rent-boys getting spiffed up for Fleet Week when every night it will be 'hello, sailor' and '50 bucks, swabbie, same as in town.'

Pic Note:

This is a revisit from last year, a shot from a different angle, but it's still impressive:

The main reading room rises to a vaulted ceiling and the walls and stacks are lined with white pine panelling carved into a variety of textures, flowers, masks, and mythical creatures. In the galleries are displayed the coats of arms of the seven provinces that existed in 1876...The northern galleries are also flanked with the white marble busts of Sir John Sandfield Macdonald; Prince Edward, Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII); Alexandra, Princess of Wales (later Queen Alexandra); and Sir Étienne-Paschal Taché.

The library's collection comprises 650,000 items, covering hundreds of years of history and tended by a staff of 300. Access to the facility is generally restricted to those on parliamentary business, but research publications are produced by the library and are available to the public.

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

Stop menticide: stop watching CNN!

The Novels of Gene Hackman

While researching Hollywood actors for 'who dis' material, I discovered that Gene Hackman's last film credit was back in 2004. I did not know that he left acting to pursue a writing career. That is, novels. Hackman acquired a writing partner and together they have produced historical novels, a western, and a modern police thriller.

Also, this Civil War novel, Escape from Andersonville:

July 1864. Union officer Nathan Parker has been imprisoned at nightmarish Andersonville prison camp in Georgia along with his soldiers. As others die around them, Nathan and his men hosta a daring plan to allow him to escape through a tunnel and make his way to Vicksburg, where he intends to alert his superiors to the imprisonment and push for military action. His efforts are blocked by higher-ups in the military, so Parker takes matters into his own hands. Together with a shady, dangerous ex-soldier and smuggler named Marcel Lafarge and a fascinating collection of cutthroats, soldiers, and castoffs, a desperate Parker organizes a private rescue mission to free his men before it’s too late.

Unfortunately, there is no e-version available, but there is one for the high sees adventure novel Wake of the Perdido Star

Journeying to Cuba with his parents aboard the Perdido Star, teenager Jack O'Reilly finds his life turned upside down by the murders of his parents and the confiscation of their land, and embarks on a desperate quest for vengeance in the guise of the pirate "Black Jack."

The Kindle edition is $11.99.

Hackman's Amazon author's page is here.

Who Dis:

Last week's who dis was British actor ("I'm not an actor, I'm a movie star!") Peter O'Toole.

Moron Recommendations

I've got some good news and some bad news.

First, the good news: a lurking moron alerted me to an overlooked novel written by that rat bastard commie Dalton Trumbo, Washington Jitters that's actually worth reading.

Washington Jitters is unfairly overlooked. Never being reprinted and tainted for the general public by the authors so-called 'blacklisting' (so-called since it never kept him from working and in Red Hollywood increased his influence and asking price), the novel fell through the cracks unfairly.

Lampooning Washington politics in an effective and accurate way, it was quite surprising to see the Commie Trumbo not pull punches on either the left or right while writing about bureaucrats, columnists, politicians, ambassadors, and lobbyists - every one of whom is trying to turn a buck or deceive the public, and usually both...What it is most is a reminder of just how corrupt government is - and how such corruption isn't remotely modern.

The bad news is that it was first published in 1936 and has been long OOP. Abebooks has a few copies, but the prices start at $35 and go up, up, up. Perhaps an interlibrary loan might be your best bet.

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181 As for kiddie lit, this week I found a copy of Ginger Pye, It came out in '51 and I recall reading it as a kid. It's about a Russell, so the idea was irresistible for me. Some of the Amazon reviews refer to it as "outdated", but that's a plus IMO.

Posted by: CN at April 11, 2021 11:14 AM (ONvIw)

Unlike the first book in this section, Ginger Pye is still in print. It is available in paperback and on Kindle.

It's about the amazing Pye family and their "intellectual dog", Ginger, the most famous pup in town. "Ginger knows tons of tricks, is as loyal as he is smart, and steals the hearts of everyone he meets... until someone steals him!"

I would suggest looking at Eleanor Estes' other books, which I think look like interesting and fun reads for older children. Because they were written long before the 'woke' wars, so you don't have to put up with any of that nonsense. And, as CN said, being "outdated" is not necessarily a bad thing.

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105 I've been rereading Mary Renault's The King Must Die. I read it in high school (back when Leave It To Beaver was on) and quite liked it. I am enjoying it this time as well but understanding it, or at least understanding its context, much better.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at April 11, 2021 09:59 AM (VVEnO)

The King Must Die, which is basically a story of the adventures of the ancient Greek hero Theseus is still in print, paperback (%15.59) and Kindle ($11.99). There are also some used hardcover editions available.

There's also a sequel, The Bull from the Sea, which, as you might guess, continues Theseus' story. And the good news here is that the Kindle edition is only $2.99.

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Let’s See What Our Betters Think Is Suitable Reading For Kids These Days:

Yes, because if there's 3 guys that our kids really need to learn about, it's Bono, Che Guevara, and RuPaul. Kind of an unholy trinity of civilizational decay.
(h/t Auron MacIntyre)

Books By Morons

Welcome to Luna City, Karnes County, Texas … Population 2,457, give or take! Fugitive former celebrity chef Richard Astor-Hall has decided to make some serious changes to his life … and propose to his girlfriend, Kate Heisel. But the path of true love does not run smooth. Meanwhile, Jess and Joe Vaughn face impending childbirth, and Xavier Gunnison-Penn, the world’s most unsuccessful professional treasure-hunter marries his true love and sets off a family row, on the way to search for another treasure.

Yes, 'ette author Celia Hayes has just published another chapter in the doings of those residents of Luna City, in this tenth visit to the most perfect small town in Texas. Luna City X is available for pre-order on Kindle for $2.99, and will be delivered to your device starting tomorrow, Sept. 6th.

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"Hierarchy For Me, But Not For Thee":

You know, for someone who doesn't like the "symbols of hierarchy", she's sure displaying that "dr." title rather proudly. Apparently some symbols of hierarchy are more worthy of acceptance than others.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

Comments

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1 Good morning, bibliophiliacs!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

2 Joan Fontaine

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:02 AM (ONvIw)

3 '50 bucks, swabbie, same as in town.'
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Fifty bucks?!?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:02 AM (Dc2NZ)

4 Tolle Lege
Should finish my Little free library today, will send in a picture here and if worthy maybe will be posted.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 08:02 AM (2JoB8)

5 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading. Mine was, shall we say, varied. Maybe eccentric or odd is a better word.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:02 AM (7EjX1)

6 Joan Fontaine, I believe. . .

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:03 AM (2JVJo)

7 Morning, Horde...Is that lower-case lady's name actually "manyguns?" If she lives up to that name, she might have more in common with the Horde than we might think...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:03 AM (K5n5d)

8 Mentocide involves Pepsi and stealth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:04 AM (Dc2NZ)

9 Nood books?

They don't have any covers?

Skip - nice. Pics please!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 05, 2021 08:04 AM (mD/uy)

10 No reading this week. Very distracted!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:04 AM (yrol0)

11 I love outdated kids' books. They are so much more intelligent, and alive with curiosity and creativity. They were written in an era before kids were highly sexualized and before they required constant entertaining and scheduling. They came up with their own adventures and games.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:05 AM (ONvIw)

12 The official trailer for the Amazon production of The Wheel of Time dropped the other day. Needless to say, it looks like it's going to be a WokeFest as epic as the series upon which it is based.

NO MENTION OF THE DRAGON REBORN, the central character of the entire series.

Watch it and judge for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fus4Xb_TLg

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:05 AM (K5n5d)

13 Someone has trouble with the shift key.

Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (MzKgG)

14 Is dr. linda manyguns a 2a supporter?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (PiwSw)

15 That reading room in the top photo is simple magnificent. It rivals the main room of the Library of Congress. The woodwork is amazing.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (7EjX1)

16 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Spent some time yesterday working on my book and am
working on it now (107 pages in, out of 142), though where I am now is the most difficult bit, turning stream-of-consciousness stuff into actual dialogue.

I always get depressed when I see another Moron has another book out. Not that I am angry at them, but at myself, for taking so long to get this done. But then, I'm usually always depressed, so what are you going to do?

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (2JVJo)

17 Mentocide involves Pepsi and stealth.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:04 AM (Dc2NZ)
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I thought it was Diet Coke...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (K5n5d)

18 I went to check out the "Who Was...?" series and they aren't ALL bad:

https://tinyurl.com/rbt89tf8

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

19 Please call her "doctor manyguns."

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 05, 2021 08:07 AM (EZebt)

20 Is dr. linda manyguns a 2a supporter?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes

if i beat her about the head and shoulders would that be a capital idea?

Posted by: Tonypete at September 05, 2021 08:07 AM (mD/uy)

21 I love outdated kids' books. They are so much more intelligent, and alive with curiosity and creativity.
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Agreed. Just finished some of John Bellairs' earlier works written for young adults. Great stuff. Believable characters with their own flaws and quirks, yet rising to the challenge to overcome evil (as we understand it, not as SJWs imagine it to be).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:08 AM (K5n5d)

22 L. Neil Smith, the Libertarian SF author who established the Prometheus Award, passed away recently. Thought I'd read something by the man Sarah Hoyt speaks so highly of. I got "The Probability Broach", in which gumshoe Win Bear, living in an alternate-universe 1987 Denver denuded by eco-fascists and anti-business bureaucrats and hounded by State Police, finds an illegal gold coin on a murder victim. The coin has an image of Albert Gallatin -- the first Treasurer in our timeline, but the man who shot George Washington as a traitor over the Whiskey Rebellion in another. Win is zapped to this other dimension of massive gun ownership, no taxes, and more advanced scientific discovery. Also sentient chimps and bottle-nosed dolphins with full citizenship.

It's a good read. I would describe it as wacky noir comedy. It's a polemic, but a fun one. I'm not sure enlightened anarchy would work in real life, but it's nice to imagine a world untrammeled by an ossified bureaucracy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus_Award

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:09 AM (Dc2NZ)

23 Rosanna Arquette
but then again men with angry Guns and rape not being a much of a crime in Texas .watch this space, [sic] she tweeted back to Midler.

Guess she missed this:
In 2017, with the enactment of a tracking system law, Texas became the first state in the country to enact all six pillars of comprehensive rape kit reform, including laws requiring an audit, testing of backlogged kits, testing of newly collected kits, tracking of kits, victims' right to notice provisions, and funding for rape kit reform. Legislators also appropriated $4.2 million in the 2017 budget (Article V, Section 54 on p. 631) to test backlogged kits.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:09 AM (yrol0)

24 Read a article about the Manyguns woman, what a piece of work.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 08:09 AM (2JoB8)

25 I suggest dr manyguns use her tribes written language to publish next time.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 05, 2021 08:09 AM (89OU7)

26 Stop menticide: stop watching CNN!

But, I would have had to have started watching CNN, to stop it?

Posted by: Paladin at September 05, 2021 08:10 AM (tO3Z9)

27 19 Please call her "doctor manyguns."
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 05, 2021 08:07 AM (EZebt)
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These types seem to believe in academic hierarchies.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:10 AM (Dc2NZ)

28 Manyguns is Indian, for a Marxist Takingawayyourguns would be more appropriate.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 08:11 AM (2JoB8)

29 >>> 20 Is dr. linda manyguns a 2a supporter?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes

if i beat her about the head and shoulders would that be a capital idea?
Posted by: Tonypete at September 05, 2021 08:07 AM (mD/uy)

Only If You Use A Tire Iron.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 05, 2021 08:11 AM (ACi07)

30 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:09 AM (Dc2NZ)

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That book really helped me to understand my political errors.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 05, 2021 08:11 AM (EZebt)

31 Imagine having to dust and polish all that.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:11 AM (45fpk)

32 Thanks for the recommendation last week of "The Twenty-fourth of June, Midsummer's Day" by Grace S. Richmond (free on Kindle!), a fine old-fashioned romance delightfully over-written for these sparse times. It's just a sweet story of a loving family, finding one's passion in life, and opening up to love.

I found a bunch of Richmond's stories for free at Amazon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:12 AM (Dc2NZ)

33
When waiting in line for treatment of gunshot wounds, any reading advice? I'm thinking Solzhenitsyn might set the right tone but perhaps be overly long.

Posted by: Bill from Attainder at September 05, 2021 08:12 AM (dQvv7)

34 So, after a rough start with the character introduction, I came to enjoy Antic Hay and it's timeless depiction of entitled artist/intellectuals who won't be happy, and aren't really sure what that means, anyway, and pass it by. Huxley was stabbing at his own British circle in the wake of WWI and came up with a tragi-comedy.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:12 AM (ONvIw)

35 dr manyguns's favorite poet is e.e. cummings....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 08:13 AM (PiwSw)

36 Please, please, PLEASE tell me those kids book about Che Guevera, Ru Paul, and Bono are meant to be a parody. They couldn't be real.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:13 AM (7EjX1)

37 anyone lived in a pretty how town

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 05, 2021 08:14 AM (EZebt)

38 So much knowledge sitting unused in Ottowa....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 08:14 AM (7bRMQ)

39 Bought some books to read:

- King Richard by Michael Dobbs, who also wrote a well-received book about the Cuban missile crisis. Dobbs believes Nixon neither ordered the Watergate break-in nor knew about it beforehand, but was knee-deep in the coverup, which ironically, considering Nixon's constant evocation of the Hiss case, was what brought him down.

- Bubble in the Sun, by Christopher Knowlton, which is a history of the Florida land boom / bust of the 1920s. I had this with me to pass the time in the ER the other day, and can recommend it as a good, entertaining read.

- The Age of Decadence: A History of Britain, 1880-1914 by Simon Heffer. One of my favorite periods of history. A yuge doorstop of a book. It will take me the rest of the year to finish.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:14 AM (2JVJo)

40 Please, please, PLEASE tell me those kids book about Che Guevera, Ru Paul, and Bono are meant to be a parody. They couldn't be real.
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I have no difficulty believing they are real. they look like a leftist's attempts to create a line of books similar to Rush Limbaugh's "Rush Revere" series. Full of lies and distortions, of course.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:15 AM (K5n5d)

41 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:08 AM (K5n5d)

I think we, as a society, suffer from the need for entertainment to be served up on a breakfast tray.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:16 AM (ONvIw)

42 I recently came across mention of the Book of Kells. Like the stained glass windows in some cathedrals, I'm fascinated by the skill, techniques, and materials used to produce such masterpieces. Then there is the history of their meaning and even how they survived the centuries. I got a library copy of "The Book of Kells" by Bernard Meehan which does a good job describing the physical aspects, the history, and mentions the difficulty of interpreting the script. I've ordered a copy and a similar one to include in my collection. And yes, my magnifying glass is getting a lot of use.

For me this kind of material fits in with things like "The Canterbury Tales", CS Lewis' writings on medieval literature, and the history of technology. It's all a glorious jumble, a massive tree that puts out innumerable branches.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:16 AM (7EjX1)

43 RuPaul

If guys can dress like gals why cant us white boys do blackface?

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:16 AM (yrol0)

44 36 Please, please, PLEASE tell me those kids book about Che Guevera, Ru Paul, and Bono are meant to be a parody. They couldn't be real.
Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:13 AM (7EjX1)
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They ARE real! But the series actually seems to have a lot of good choices -- or you can just get the usual Che/ Frieda Kahlo/RBG selections.

Man, I used to like that rich Commie Frieda's art before she became a kind of Lefty totem.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:16 AM (Dc2NZ)

45 As for books I need something new as will have time to read.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 08:17 AM (2JoB8)

46 Michigan has 12 federally recognized Indian tribes and there are some pretty witty bumper stickers regarding not trusting the government, how great immigration worked out for them last time and no, you can't take our guns and push us back onto reservations.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:17 AM (llXky)

47 Please, please, PLEASE tell me those kids book about Che Guevera, Ru Paul, and Bono are meant to be a parody. They couldn't be real.
Posted by: JTB

See also: Heather has two mommies

Posted by: Tonypete at September 05, 2021 08:17 AM (mD/uy)

48 33
When waiting in line for treatment of gunshot wounds, any reading advice? I'm thinking Solzhenitsyn might set the right tone but perhaps be overly long.
Posted by: Bill from Attainder at September 05, 2021 08:12 AM (dQvv7)
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How about "Holes"?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

49 33
When waiting in line for treatment of gunshot wounds, any reading advice? I'm thinking Solzhenitsyn might set the right tone but perhaps be overly long.
Posted by: Bill from Attainder at September 05, 2021 08:12 AM (dQvv7)

Atlas of Emergency Medicine 5th Edition
by Kevin Knoop, Lawrence Stack, et al.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:18 AM (yrol0)

50 Imagine having to dust and polish all that.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:11 AM

I'd never get it done, what with having to constantly stop and read all the titles and inside the covers.

Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2021 08:18 AM (MzKgG)

51 Before cracking open another Huxley, I took a detour and started to reread Frankenstein. It's been over 40 years and I do not recall liking it at all at the time. This time, however, I do. Maybe there will be more Mary Shelley in my future reading.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:18 AM (ONvIw)

52 OM, Thank you for that wonderful painting of the little boy reading and old book to his younger sister. The image is adorable. And the sentiment is so important and true.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:20 AM (7EjX1)

53 Almost done with G.K. Chesterton's Orthodoxy. It's quite good, chock full of bon mots and very much relevant to today. The one knock against it is that it has a lot of references to people who are long dead. It was very much written in its time and an annotated edition to explain who these people are would be helpful.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:20 AM (llXky)

54 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:17 AM (llXky)

Chippewa and Ojibway?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:20 AM (ONvIw)

55 Tolle Lege
Should finish my Little free library today, will send in a picture here and if worthy maybe will be posted.
Posted by: Skip

And tell us where ya put it, right ?

RIGHT ?

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 08:20 AM (arJlL)

56 I recommend "Trejo" by Danny Trejo, go figure. "My life of Crime, Redemption, and Hollywood" I am amazed he lived pass 30. But, then again so does he. Latino/Chiccano myself, growing up in the bario, I saw the path he had taken. Thank God I was able to avoid it. My mother was the hand of God in that respect. IT is real gritty in his early years, but lightens up in the Hollywood years. I also bought his "Trejo's Tacos" Recipes & stories from L.A.. A signed hardback! Every Mexican family cooks different, and this has a lot to pick from.

Posted by: Paladin at September 05, 2021 08:21 AM (tO3Z9)

57 Imagine having to dust and polish all that.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:11 AM

I'd never get it done, what with having to constantly stop and read all the titles and inside the covers.
Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2021 08:18 AM (MzKgG)
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Everyone knows a good library has a thick layer of dust covering everything...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:21 AM (K5n5d)

58 At Independent UK:

McDonalds hires children as restaurant struggles to recruit staff

I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:21 AM (yrol0)

59 Hi All, Happy Book Thread, Thanks OM!

Finally finished R.E. Howard's Conan saga. Now Deep into Intellectuals, recommended here.

I love the Book Thread.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 05, 2021 08:22 AM (bDyGY)

60 I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Washed walls and hung wallpaper.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 05, 2021 08:22 AM (mD/uy)

61 What ho! I see there is a new Union-Alliance novel in the Cherryhverse, after a decade of no new stories -- and my library has it!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:23 AM (Dc2NZ)

62 Nice Lieberry!

Those pants.....sharp!

The Who Dis is a bitter faced old bint, most likely a democrat, on the way to work.

Dr. Linda needs to get laid.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 05, 2021 08:23 AM (R/m4+)

63 Joan Fontaine, I believe. . .
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021

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The still is from Alfred Hitchcock's Suspicion, the train scene (I think) where she first meets Cary Grant's Johnnie Aysgarth. I'm sure i've mentioned this book before, but the film is based on a superb and creepy novel called Before the Fact by "Francis Iles" (Anthony Berkeley). Aside from the wildly unbelievable ending, the film follows the novel quite closely. The book is one of the best jobs of characterization, both of the charming male sociopath and of the woman who loves and enables him, that I've ever read.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:24 AM (quCFJ)

64 I saw Hackman in a movie several years ago, and it was all about being a "sound" man for a (San Fran?) police department. He obviously, did it all w/analog equipment and reel/reel recording. It was a really entertaining flick, with a lot of the 70's niche film making techniques. (Split screens, odd angles et al)
If I was teaching a film class, this would be my case study for sound in film. If I could remember what it was called.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:24 AM (7Fj9P)

65 I have recently finished the latest in the Guardian's Compact series, Sky Tribe, by 'ette author Sabrina Chase and enjoyed it thoroughly.

I always get good suggestions from the book thread, even though I am rarely wearing pants for them.

Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde, NC Chapter at September 05, 2021 08:24 AM (CcOog)

66 I've started reading the first in a series of murder mysteries by Elizabeth Daly. She supposedly was Agatha Christie's favorite American author. So far I'm not feeling it, but maybe I'll come to care for the characters in time. Or not.

So next up is a re-read of a book called "The Feasts of Israel" by Dr. Chuck Missler. Missler previously worked in a high-ranking position at the DoD, and was CEO of some major companies.

The book is short, and deals with the foreshadowing/prophetic nature of how the Jewish feasts point to the Messiah. I've found it helpful in the past, and with the Jewish Holy Days upon us, I thought it was time for a re-reading.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:24 AM (45fpk)

67 It was very much written in its time and an annotated edition to explain who these people are would be helpful.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:20 AM (llXky)

I had the same experience, though probably on a smaller scale, with the Huxley novels. There were many references to classical literature and plenty of Latin passages. He was writing for the Oxford/Cambridge set, not for the general public.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:25 AM (ONvIw)

68 Brave Sir Robin, that sounds like "The Conversation", a terrific film.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:25 AM (Dc2NZ)

69 I was pulling $2 an hour babysitting when I was 13. That was above minimum.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 05, 2021 08:25 AM (EZebt)

70 JT keep telling I won't be able to have it, will need to find it a home I have a feeling.
I would never pass on bad books ( and have a few) and real good books wouldn't part with.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 08:25 AM (2JoB8)

71 The Who Dis is a bitter faced old bint, most likely a democrat, on the way to work. . . .

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 05, 2021

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Aside from Lina, Joan's character, being of the leisured class in England in the 1920s-1930s and so not having or needing a job, that's pretty close. Lina is shaping up to be an old maid when she meets Johnnie the charming sociopath.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:26 AM (quCFJ)

72 I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Lot's of babysitting and mother's helper stuff for the older cousins.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:26 AM (ONvIw)

73 I saw Hackman in a movie several years ago, and it was all about being a "sound" man for a (San Fran?) police department. He obviously, did it all w/analog equipment and reel/reel recording. It was a really entertaining flick, with a lot of the 70's niche film making techniques. (Split screens, odd angles et al)
If I was teaching a film class, this would be my case study for sound in film. If I could remember what it was called.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021

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Something Conversation? The Conversation or Criminal Conversation?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:27 AM (quCFJ)

74 One reason I haven't finished Chesterton is that my copy of Diary of an American Exorcist by Stephen J. Rossetti arrived and I had to dig right in.

It is a very quick read, consisting of one or two-page observations/entries sometimes followed up by a Theological Reflection to give context.

He mentions that the big difficulty of being exorcist is discerning actual possession. The basic rule seems to be that people that claim to be possessed rarely are. That's mental illness. He gives some of the signs of demonic influence and of course advice on how to avoid it. Really fast, interesting read.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:27 AM (llXky)

75 I saw Hackman in a movie several years ago, and it was all about being a "sound" man for a (San Fran?) police department.

1974s The Conversation, directed by Coppola.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:28 AM (2JVJo)

76 At Perfessor Squirrel
WoT was alway best read with the understanding that the POV character was completely clueless about what was happening. Usually resulting hyperbole becomes reality. High Comedy!

But as one of my favorite series, and one where the end is actually written. They may struggle.

Look for early homosexuality in the series, something that was not mentioned (pillow friends) until the later books in the series. If that happens on this series early I would not be surprised if your predictions are true.

Posted by: Dread0 at September 05, 2021 08:28 AM (ZP4Ww)

77 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:27 AM (llXky)

This sounds worth looking into after reading the Martin Malachi stuff.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:29 AM (ONvIw)

78 Good morning all!

Coffee status - freshly brewed and being enjoyed.

Pants status - on (not by choice).

Book reading status - 3 in progress. I don't know why, but I always gravitate to always reading more than 1 at a time. I can't seem to just start 1 and finish it before starting another. Is that uncommon??

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:29 AM (mZUr4)

79 the conversation, it was a coppola film before godfather, or right after, think of it as a bookend with enemy of the state, a quarter century later,

have you reviewed poul anderson's dominic flandry series, I thought some light reading was due at this point

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 05, 2021 08:29 AM (hMlTh)

80 Washed walls and hung wallpaper.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 05, 2021 08:22 AM (mD/uy)

Wallpapering with your wife comes with those instant divorce kits.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:30 AM (yrol0)

81 I guess I don't really care if Linda Manyguns uses capitals or not. I will have forgotten about her existence by the time I hit post.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021 08:30 AM (cSyAR)

82 I brought some of the early Matt Helm novels to reread for the evacuation. Yesterday I stopped in a Books-a-Million (remember those?) and found they had a Westerns section. Ninety percent was Louis L'Amour and William Johnstone, but there was a single copy of Elmore Leonard's first novel, The Bounty Hunters. So I grabbed it. Chapter One is a nearly perfect textbook example of how to set a scene, introduce several characters and conflicts, and show exactly what kind of person your lead character is.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:30 AM (quCFJ)

83 I read Memory Of Light, the fourteenth and final novel in the WOT series, by Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson. Jordan plotted out a great, satisfying ending and Sanderson wrote some great battle scenes. Except for a couple of books near the middle of the series, I enjoyed it very much. As a side note, Friday's Book Bub e-mail had the trailer for the WOT movie coming out November 19th.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 05, 2021 08:30 AM (kiyX4)

84 have you reviewed poul anderson's dominic flandry series, I thought some light reading was due at this point
Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 05, 2021

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I've sampled a number of them over the years. Think a sort of interstellar James Bond with elements of the Horatio Hornblower saga (Flandry, as the series progresses, rises in space navy rank from ensign to at least captain, and gets knighted in the process).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:32 AM (quCFJ)

85 Good morning, Horde.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 05, 2021 08:32 AM (TdMsT)

86 Maybe Linda ManyGuns should stop culturally expropriating Western clothes and educational institutions and fuck off.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:32 AM (ONvIw)

87 I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.
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I had a paper route. It was serious biz. I had to buy my papers from the driver, do the folding and banding, deliver them on my overbuilt Schwinn with baskets hanging off, then collect from my customer's on weekends and evenings. That's when I learned that people can be awful, totally willing to stiff a little kid. I was up at 4:00 on weekend days, and dreaded seeing those stacks of papers on my drive in the afternoons after school. (Wednesdays were the worst! Food section and ads out the wazoo.)
I'll never forget the feeling of tossing a fat paper, and having the rubber band fail, and see papers blowing all over the place.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (7Fj9P)

88 Hackman is and incredible actor. He always seemed to go his own way though. It isn't surprising he gave it up, he didn't need it the way so many do. Look at people like Kelly McGillis, people who walk away on their own accord. I am not saying the situations are comparable, but just offered another example. Hackman's career was much longer of course.

I would like to read one of his Westerns and for sure anything he did that was based on history. The history stuff would make things clear very quickly.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (X1Wj0)

89 Pants status - on (not by choice).
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OM is a total Pants Karen!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (Dc2NZ)

90 Rev has a big ol' commentary on the Book of Revelation at his office. I've asked him to bring it home so I can delve into all the study notes and charts and such. Even though he's Lutheran, the book is written from an evangelical perspective, so I'm really looking forward to it.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (45fpk)

91 Chippewa and Ojibway?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:20 AM (ONvIw)
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Yes, and some tribes spell their names differently. The Chippewa are by far the most numerous.

There is considerable antipathy among the tribes, of course. The notion that "Indigenous Peoples" would for a united front against the eeeevil whites was of course always a white liberal fantasy.

Also, the tribes run heavily Catholic. It's usually the Wannabe tribe members who push the Great Spirit stuff.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (llXky)

92 N.L.Urker have no doubt that will be the case, as said I read the entire story of her grievance yesterday or Friday and this whole conversation today didn't remember what it was.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 08:34 AM (2JoB8)

93 I never get the Who Dis unless everyone gets it. When I read about last week's Who dis, I would have gotten that one.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 08:34 AM (X1Wj0)

94 At Independent UK:
McDonalds hires children as restaurant struggles to recruit staff
I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:21 AM (yrol0)

Good. I've been saying for years we need to repeal all child labor laws.

Put the little buggers to work digging coal and making Big Macs...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 05, 2021 08:34 AM (R/m4+)

95 Reading the Norton edition of Far From the Madding Crowd I hadn't realized Hardy created a somewhat customized setting, with different names for towns and villages, for many (maybe all) of his books. Plus he carried people forward from one work to another like an early version of Faulkner. I know Balzac did that although that was centered in Paris. Was it a common practice to create a fixed fictionalized location for multiple books?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 08:34 AM (y7DUB)

96 I was gonna read a book this week but I overdosed on horse declawer and had to wait in line for gunshots at the Oklabama Country Rodeo.
Now I have to write another story for Rolled and Stoned.

Anyway, is that Wheel of Time series worth reading?
Or is it stunk-up with so much Grrrl! Power! you think you're reading CNN?

Posted by: Lrrr at September 05, 2021 08:35 AM (jIL4c)

97 Joan Fontaine is one of the most irritating and annoying actresses of all time.

I'm Team de Havilland all the way.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 05, 2021 08:35 AM (mNhhD)

98 Hackman is and incredible actor. He always seemed to go his own way though. It isn't surprising he gave it up, he didn't need it the way so many do. Look at people like Kelly McGillis, people who walk away on their own accord. I am not saying the situations are comparable, but just offered another example. Hackman's career was much longer of course. . . .

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021

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He was one of those actors you never could catch "acting." His style was very naturalistic. Okay, his Lex Luthor in the Christopher Reeve Superman films was not, but he was playing the role partly for tongue-in-cheek laughs. But his pastor in Poseidon Adventure and his Sheriff Bill in Unforgiven, to give 2 examples, were both played straight on, and were very effective.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:36 AM (quCFJ)

99 I read Memory Of Light, the fourteenth and final novel in the WOT series, by Robert Jordan and Brandon Sanderson. Jordan plotted out a great, satisfying ending and Sanderson wrote some great battle scenes. Except for a couple of books near the middle of the series, I enjoyed it very much. As a side note, Friday's Book Bub e-mail had the trailer for the WOT movie coming out November 19th.
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There's simply no way Amazon will do that series justice. The Last Battle is even more over the top than the final boss battle in Avengers: Endgame. And that was pure insanity...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:36 AM (K5n5d)

100 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Make it through the storm ok?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:36 AM (7Fj9P)

101 I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:21 AM (yrol0)

Paper route. Delivery bag cleverly attached to the handlebars of my Mongoose BMX bike. Paper routes were dream jobs when I was growing up. They were handed down to a younger kid when you outgrew it.

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:36 AM (mZUr4)

102 Not to be too caught up in medieval literature and the wonders of Kells and cathedral windows, I got a copy of Donald Hamilton's "Line of Fire", a non-Matt Helm book. This was written just after he began the Matt Helm series and it is pure Hamilton. The main character knows firearms and has that nicely cynical and practical attitude that I find enjoyable in Matt Helm.

I always enjoy Hamilton's books and not just the Matt Helm stories. His westerns, other adventure books, and nonfiction are just as good a read.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:36 AM (7EjX1)

103 Also, the tribes run heavily Catholic. It's usually the Wannabe tribe members who push the Great Spirit stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (llXky)

A woman I knew in college was an Ojibway and that was actually her last name . She recounted a funny story of telling a professor, who asked ethnicity, that she was Native American. He asked her "what tribe?" Perhaps he thought she was O'Jibway and maybe a Cherokee?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:37 AM (ONvIw)

104 Why not for true multiculturalism every word in her writing should be a different language.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 08:37 AM (2JoB8)

105 Joan Fontaine is one of the most irritating and annoying actresses of all time.

I'm Team de Havilland all the way.
Posted by: JuJuBee at September 05, 2021

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Joan to me is cuter, though Olivia was lovely. But Olivia's character in Gone With the Wind, Melanie, is one of the least believable characters in all moviedom. Not Olivia's fault, it's the way M was written.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:38 AM (quCFJ)

106 What does what's-her-name think of e.e. cummings, the poet and diesel engine builder.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021 08:38 AM (cSyAR)

107 With a new "Dune" movie coming out this month I re read Frank Herbert's novel. I had forgotten a lot of the story of Muadeb. I hope they don't gut the story, and just make big budget CGI movie.

Posted by: Paladin at September 05, 2021 08:38 AM (tO3Z9)

108 I was gonna read a book this week but I overdosed on horse declawer and had to wait in line for gunshots at the Oklabama Country Rodeo.
Now I have to write another story for Rolled and Stoned.
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I don't know what that means, but I laughed.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (7Fj9P)

109 I got a copy of Donald Hamilton's "Line of Fire", a non-Matt Helm book. This was written just after he began the Matt Helm series and it is pure Hamilton. The main character knows firearms and has that nicely cynical and practical attitude that I find enjoyable in Matt Helm.

I always enjoy Hamilton's books and not just the Matt Helm stories. His westerns, other adventure books, and nonfiction are just as good a read.
Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021

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I have that one at home, and while I've read and enjoyed it, I'm blurry on what the plot was. Something to do with a hired assassin?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (quCFJ)

110 I can't seem to just start 1 and finish it before starting another. Is that uncommon??
Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:29 AM (mZUr4)

Not for me. I usually have at least 3 books going at the same time.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (2JVJo)

111 Because of the topic, I'm tempted by "Washington jitters" cuz of the topics, however -

I've "Johnny Got His Gun" by Dalton Trumbo and it is one of the more tedious books that I've ever read.

Earnestly tedious, which is the very worst type of tedious writing.

I can't imagine Trumbo writing a comedy at all. Perhaps an earnestly tedious comedy, but that's doing it wrong.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (5NkmN)

112 I was a babysitter for 33 cents and hour.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (S1hrL)

113 What does what's-her-name think of e.e. cummings, the poet and diesel engine builder.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021

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No doubt she thinks he's

far and wee

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:40 AM (quCFJ)

114 The book is short, and deals with the foreshadowing/prophetic nature of how the Jewish feasts point to the Messiah. I've found it helpful in the past, and with the Jewish Holy Days upon us, I thought it was time for a re-reading.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:24 AM (45fpk)
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You might be interested in Brant Pitre's books on the Jewish roots of Mary and the Eucharist. He is a cradle Catholic who almost apostasized and then came back as a result of his historical research. Quick reads, lots of citations and he even uses helpful charts to clarify the relationships.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:40 AM (llXky)

115 Wonderful thread today! Love the reading room, and todays word is especially appropriate to the modern day. But I have to admit I had no idea Hackman stopped acting so many years ago, nor that he took up writing. Reading a bit about him, I learned he also bikes every day and is close to his three children, none of whom are actors. Hackman strikes me as a very accomplished human.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 05, 2021 08:40 AM (Xf1x/)

116 Pants status - on (not by choice).
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OM is a total Pants Karen!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (Dc2NZ)

Yup. But it's his place so it's his rules. Those who don't abide may have something thrown at them. Seems like there should be an expression for what happens to people who don't follow rules. Like "throw the ???? at them". It'll come to me

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:40 AM (mZUr4)

117 I'm reading the Journal of Nicholas Creswell, a diary / travelogue by a young Englishman seeking his fortune in Colonial America from 1774 - 1777. He traveled first to the states, then to Barbados, and now he's just coming back from a canoe trip down the Ohio River. Reminds me of Stephen Ambrose's "Undaunted Courage," about the Lewis and Clark expedition.

Posted by: PabloD at September 05, 2021 08:41 AM (uwwPK)

118 Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:36 AM (mZUr4)
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Hey Doof, I haven't seen an update from The Paper Boy Pension Fund recently. Are you getting yours?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:41 AM (7Fj9P)

119 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:40 AM (llXky)

Thanks Mr. Lloyd - I'll check it out!

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:41 AM (45fpk)

120 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Make it through the storm ok?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021

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Bugged out to a Sonesta hotel in the suburbs of Birmingham, AL. I wanted to be as far from the Gulf Coast as I could reasonably get in case there was *another* storm right after Ida.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:41 AM (quCFJ)

121 I had a GREAT birthday!

SIL and BIL bought me Ian Toll's Pacific War Trilogy.

About half way through vol. 1, and already impressed with the depth and breadth of the narrative.

Three books are

"Pacific Crucible"
"The Conquering Tide"
"Twilight of the Gods"

Also highly recommend Toll's "Six Frigates"

Posted by: TANSTAAFL6823 at September 05, 2021 08:41 AM (fBtlL)

122 Joan Fontaine in Hitchcok movie Suspicion was great.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 08:41 AM (S1hrL)

123 It will be interesting to see if Hackman focused on the events at Andersonville or if that is just a setting to start the novel. My guess is it is the latter.

Andersonviille is infamous and an example of the depradations that happen in war. But it was complicated, not quite as simple as young people who are lucky enough to be taught the history would imagine. The CSA was living hand to mouth, they themselves were being starved. But still what happened there was an abomination. I know little about it but I recall the commandant there made a serious defense of his actions and the situation. He was one of the few former Confederates to be hanged.

The Union version of Andersonville was Elmira Prison in New York. The numbers are not the same, but they are very comparable. Both prisons were a result of the decision to no longer exchange prisoners. That was mostly a USA/Union/Federal decision. It was a calculated strategic decision with some merit.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (X1Wj0)

124 Mowed lawns, before being hired off the books at a nearby resort motel and restaurant.

I am genuinely curious as to why Gen. Milley doesn't read about White Guilt instead of White Rage. After all, the main factor that is tearing down his precious military is based on those guilty about creating all this 'civilization'.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (bDyGY)

125 I've been reading "Norse Mythology" R. B. ANDERSON, A.M.,- 1876. The author writes this very long sentence about it:

In it was mirrored the grand future of the Norse spirit; by it the Norsemen were taught to make those daring expeditions to every part of the civilized world, making conquests and planting colonies; to cross the briny deep and open the way to Iceland, Greenland and America; to take possession of Normandy in France, subdue England and make inroads into Spain and Italy; to pass between the pillars of Hercules, devastate the classic fields of Greece, and carve their mysterious runes on the marble lion in Athens; to lay the foundations of the Russian Empire, penetrate the walls of Constantinople and swing their two-edged battle-axes in its streets; (cont)

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (Tnijr)

126 Does the smug expression on Dr. Manyguns (screw her no upper case crap) make anyone else want to bitch slap her?

Maybe I just need more coffee.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (7EjX1)

127 Pt2
to sail up the rivers Rhine, the Scheldt, the Seine, and the Loire, conquering Cologne and Aachen and besieging Paris; to lead the van of the chivalry of Europe in rescuing the holy sepulchre and rule over Antioch and Tiberias under Harald; to sever the fetters forged by the Roman emperors, break the crosiers in the hands of the Roman popes and infuse a nobler and freer spirit into the nations of the earth; and by their mythology they were taught to give to the world that germ of liberty that struck root in the earliest literature of France, budded in the Magna Charta of England, and developed its full-blown flowers in the American Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (Tnijr)

128 I like both the deHavilland sisters' work.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (ONvIw)

129 @110

I read several books at a time. It all depends on my frame of mind which book I read on a particular day.
Not a great habit, imo.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (S1hrL)

130 rat bastard commie Dalton Trumbo

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Our hometown hero. We have a statue of him in a bathtub on Main Street.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (d9FiS)

131 Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (Tnijr)

And that was just Tuesday.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (45fpk)

132 dr. linda's last name must be a misprint. Surely it's manypronouns.

Posted by: JuJuBee at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (mNhhD)

133 They were written in an era before kids were highly sexualized and before they required constant entertaining and scheduling. They came up with their own adventures and games.

Don't forget trips to the Emergency Room. Or, was that just my adventures?

Posted by: Paladin at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (tO3Z9)

134 Reading a bit about him, I learned he also bikes every day and is close to his three children, none of whom are actors. Hackman strikes me as a very accomplished human.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 05, 2021 08:40 AM (Xf1x/)
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I think the default rule on which celebrities aren't perverts are the ones whose kids are raised to do something else. Time was, a lot of them made their money and quit, living in obscurity. Some of them are quite open about it. When they did the remake of "Battlestar Galactica"

Dirk Benedict emerged from obscurity to write a post on why it was stupid, why he hated Hollywood and was quite happy raising his kids from as far from that place as he could.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (llXky)

135 107 same here. Liked the 80s movie but never read the book. Was pleasantly surprised how good it is. About 80 percent done.

Posted by: Rusty at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (eqHTn)

136 Joan Fontaine in Hitchcok movie Suspicion was great.
Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021

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She and Cary Grant, and Nigel Bruce as Johnnie's buddy and foil Beaky, were all perfectly cast. It came upon me a couple of years ago that while the movie came out in 1941 and thus the English setting in the film is probably late Thirties, the novel was published in 1932 and covers about 10 years in Lina and Johnnie's marriage. So the novel is set in the 1920s -- roughly contemporary with Downton Abbey's time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:46 AM (quCFJ)

137 126 Does the smug expression on Dr. Manyguns (screw her no upper case crap) make anyone else want to bitch slap her?

Maybe I just need more coffee.
Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (7EjX1)

There's not enough coffee in the world to not have a distaste for some "downtrodden" pseudo-intellectual with a posh academic sinecure

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:46 AM (ONvIw)

138 Hey Doof, I haven't seen an update from The Paper Boy Pension Fund recently. Are you getting yours?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:41 AM (7Fj9P)

Well, here's the problem. When the paper one delivered ceases to exist, the pension fund does too. I delivered evening papers after school in northeast Baltimore. First was The News American. Then I moved up in the paper delivery world and delivered The Evening Sun. Both papers went the way of the dodo. And with it, my bloated paperboy pension. And did anyone bail us out??? Nooooooooooo

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:46 AM (mZUr4)

139 I am genuinely curious as to why Gen. Milley doesn't read about White Guilt instead of White Rage. After all, the main factor that is tearing down his precious military is based on those guilty about creating all this 'civilization'.
Posted by: goatexchange at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (bDyGY)

Milley isn't good at connecting dots.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 08:47 AM (y7DUB)

140 Don't forget trips to the Emergency Room. Or, was that just my adventures?

Posted by: Paladin at September 05, 2021 08:45 AM (tO3Z9)
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Lol, there were a couple of years in our family where every 3 day weekend involved a trip to the ER. Mostly involved my middle kid, who is now an EMT. Saves time that way!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (llXky)

141 126 Does the smug expression on Dr. Manyguns (screw her no upper case crap) make anyone else want to bitch slap her?

Maybe I just need more coffee.
Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (7EjX1)

yonder lies my barren field of fucks.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (yrol0)

142 I was a babysitter for 33 cents and hour.
Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (S1hrL)

What are you 90?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (Irn0L)

143 My wife (the lovely and accomplished Annalucia) and I have been reading aloud the memoirs of Lady Diana Cooper. She lived between 1892 and 1986, was a noted beauty in her day, and was the wife of Alfred Duff Cooper and mother of John Julius Norwich. The memoirs are in three volumes, all long out of print, though we're reading an edition that has all three bound into a single book. Cooper writes beautifully, and describes her life as a child of a now-vanished Victorian aristocratic world with clear-eyed wonder. Highly recommended.

Another recommended book, which I downloaded for free from gutenberg.org, is Alice Duer Miller's novel "Manslaughter". Miller was a popular novelist in the 1920s and 1930s, later a popular screenwriter, and part of the "New Yorker" literati, though her work is largely forgotten nowadays. (She has a cameo in Harpo Marx's memoirs.) But she wrote very well, and "Manslaughter", IMHO, is a masterpiece. Her style could be called Hemingway-esque, except that she predates Hemingway by a decade. The novel is a story of the spiritual redemption of a spoiled, wealthy young woman. Well worth reading.

Posted by: Nemo at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (S6ArX)

144 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:36 AM (quCFJ)

Popeye Doyle was a bit before my time, but not by much. For sure Unforgiven, but his acting job in Hoosiers was way up there too. For some reason I remember a very weird movie where he was a detective with Dan Akroyd who was a legit nut. That film might have inspired the tv show Monk. Hackman was a Redskin fan. That stood out because it wasn't a common portrayal.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (X1Wj0)

145 dr. linda manyguns IS FUNNY BECAUSE SHE'S A CRAZY BITCH.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (d9FiS)

146 I can't seem to just start 1 and finish it before starting another. Is that uncommon??
Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:29 AM (mZUr4)

Not for me. I usually have at least 3 books going at the same time.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (2JVJo)

Thanks for the validation, MP4!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:49 AM (mZUr4)

147 Does the smug expression on Dr. Manyguns (screw her no upper case crap) make anyone else want to bitch slap her?
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Yes, but those ideas aren't her own. She, like all the victim class, has been polluted by leftist Social Justice theory. Some white dude w/tenure told her to think this way. I guarantee that dog wouldn't hunt back on her rez.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:49 AM (7Fj9P)

148 yonder lies my barren field of fucks.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:48 AM (yrol0)

Is that under copyright, or is it fair use?? I'll be using it regardless - just wanna know if I'm stealing or not!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:50 AM (mZUr4)

149 Looking into something else entirely, I looked at the website for St. John's College in Annapolis. It has no majors and focuses on the Great Books. I'm not sure how this works out for the grads' career prospects, but I venture to say they go to grad school to specialize. The reading list section was impressive.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:51 AM (ONvIw)

150 Manyguns has Manyproblems.

Posted by: Eromero at September 05, 2021 08:52 AM (0OP+5)

151 Joan Fontaine did a movie with Bing Crosby, The Emperor Waltz, where he plays an Edison salesman trying to get Emperor Franz Joseph to either buy or endorse one of his machines. Fontaine plays the haughty aristocrat who hates and then loves him.

It was directed by Billy Wilder, who wanted to do a sort of love letter to old Vienna, but in his later years he was embarrassed by the flick and dismissed it as garbage. Fontaine didn't enjoy making it, as she didn't click with Crosby, whim she described as being cold and indifferent.

Of course, everyone lives happily ever after at the end and I will admit I wept when I first saw the movie, because I wish life were like that and it never is. That's what inspired the opening lines of my story Thirteen Moons" "Movies are a cheat."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:52 AM (2JVJo)

152 Greetings:

Recently re-read "House of Rain" by Craig Childs. It's about the so-called disappearance of the Anasazi from the Four Corners area of America's Southwest.

Surprisingly limited in terms of political correctness, the author even criticizes the self-censorship of the current archeology and anthropology guilds in various regards.

The author is very descriptive of the desert Southwest and all the comings and goings and now goes. Hint: the Hopi did it.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 05, 2021 08:52 AM (uuklp)

153 Not to anticipate tonight's thread by Weasel, but my collection is slowly, steadily approaching the good 'doctor's' name. Added an evil black one this past week. If you catch my drift.

Posted by: goatexchange at September 05, 2021 08:52 AM (bDyGY)

154 The Union version of Andersonville was Elmira Prison in New York.

This is little discussed history, and deserves to be better known.

https://tinyurl.com/2afjw6dr

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 05, 2021 08:53 AM (Xf1x/)

155 Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (Tnijr)

By Thor, no!!! We just wanted to get laid!!

Posted by: Sven Bangingnorsedottir at September 05, 2021 08:53 AM (7bRMQ)

156 As for books I need something new as will have time to read.
Posted by: Skip

How come ?

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 08:53 AM (arJlL)

157 60. I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.
Posted by: rhennigantx

Babysitting and mowing lawns.

Posted by: Wethal at September 05, 2021 08:53 AM (ZzVCK)

158 "And that was just Tuesday.
Posted by: grammie winger"

They were a highly motivated bunch of folks.

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 08:53 AM (Tnijr)

159 Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 08:47 AM (y7DUB)

At this point Milley knows he can't be fired if he says the right things. Lincoln fired commanders at the drop of a hat if they failed to perform. And perform meant something different back then.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 08:54 AM (X1Wj0)

160 Manyguns is Indian

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Bury Her Heart At Bended Knee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 08:54 AM (d9FiS)

161 that struck root in the earliest literature of France, budded in the Magna Charta of England, and developed its full-blown flowers in the American Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 08:43 AM (Tnijr)
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...and now has withered into importing rapists and being unable to tell men from women.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:54 AM (llXky)

162 Local classical station is playing Joplin's The Maple Leaf Rag, which reminds me that it was Joplin's wish the rag be played at his funeral. His wife thought that was undignified and refused, but later admitted that she should have obeyed his wishes.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:54 AM (2JVJo)

163 Is that under copyright, or is it fair use?? I'll be using it regardless - just wanna know if I'm stealing or not!
Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:50 AM (mZUr4)

Best said aloud in Tony Curtis Brooklynese.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:54 AM (yrol0)

164 Don't forget trips to the Emergency Room. Or, was that just my adventures?
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No, it wasn't just you. My mom was the mother to 3 boys (I was the middle child, if you need to ask), and most mothers said "The game is over when you need Band-Aids." My mom said "the game is over when you need stitches."

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:55 AM (7Fj9P)

165 I love outdated kids' books. They are so much more intelligent, and alive with curiosity and creativity.
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Go look at the sales numbers for the Hardy Boys.

By some accounts, they're still selling over 2 million copies a year.

And all the "right" people have always hated them

Posted by: Lrrr at September 05, 2021 08:55 AM (jIL4c)

166 Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 08:47 AM (y7DUB)

Good Morning, Captain!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 08:55 AM (mZUr4)

167 I recently dusted off my copy of Carl Sagan's "Demon Haunted World" that I bought when it first came out and quickly remembered why I never bothered reading it. Great title but a garbage book. It's now illuminating some tightly compacted space in the county landfill. But I continue to use the phrase "Demon Haunted World" to describe the thought world of Leftists in general. They believe themselves to be the masters of Science and Logic. Not so much.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2021 08:56 AM (M9SBl)

168 "Movies are a cheat."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 08:52 AM (2JVJo)

A lot of people have a problem with this and expect life to be life a movie or TV, especially kids whose family life doesn't measure up. Plenty of adults think love and relationships should be like entertainments, too. Sad

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:56 AM (ONvIw)

169 Meh on """dr""" linda manyguns.

Her PhD is in "Indigenous Knowledge", which sounds like one of those custom, made-up degrees to allow someone special to get a degree just by being who they are. You know, without the work.

So, the uncapitalized "dr" is appropriate.

Given her new super-serious mission in life, I'd like to award her a brand new-

PhD in Retardology. And with this one she can use a capitalized "Dr". She's done the work.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 08:56 AM (5NkmN)

170 Olivia was the worst older sister ever. She beat on Joan incessantly when they were young. Hair pulling. Broke her collarbone. "I'm the pretty one."

Olivia broke into Hollywood first, and disparaged Joan incessantly.

Then they were both up for Oscar, before either had won one. Joan won for Suspicion!

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 08:57 AM (ZHVt1)

171 OM is a total Pants Karen!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord

That reminds me....

I don't think the pants guy on the left owns a weedwhacker.

(if you catch my drift.....)

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 08:57 AM (arJlL)

172 Morning, Doof.

Between Milley and Trumbo we're littering the thread with worthless turds.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 08:57 AM (y7DUB)

173 Damn

I also restored Corvettes. Family friend in Beaver OK needed a shop boy. The summer I turned 15 I lived there from when school ended to school started. My parts getting car was a 58. Which was just the 57 backend with double from light and a ribbed hood.

Also this story strange twist is that I took bus to Beaver from OKC. Parents moved that summer and I took bus to new home in Plano, Tx.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:58 AM (yrol0)

174 My mom said "the game is over when you need stitches."
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:55 AM (7Fj9P)

We played no autopsy, no foul basketball.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:58 AM (yrol0)

175 Also, the tribes run heavily Catholic. It's usually the Wannabe tribe members who push the Great Spirit stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 08:33 AM (llXky)

Yup...I went to an "Indian Flute Festival" in Flo-rida once.
Besides the hokey indian crap for sell and the terrible flute music, there was a dance group who would come out and hop around. All were older and whiter than me with names like Johnny Thunderdrawers and Mary Vaginliketeepee.

They all claimed to be "indians" with like 2% somewhere in the woodpile. What about the other 98%...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 05, 2021 08:59 AM (R/m4+)

176 Greetings:

In the last book of his Pacific War Trilogy, author Ian Toll opines that the world will never forget the 1945 destruction of Manila by the Imperial Japanese Army's decision to fight to the death in it.

Meanwhile, those Hiroshima and Nagasaki Grannies just keep on sprouting every August while there's not a Filipino Grannies in sight.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 05, 2021 08:59 AM (uuklp)

177 I think I really would like to see what that book on Che has in it, would bet its not the truth.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 09:00 AM (2JoB8)

178 These men are menticidle. Ivermectin maddness.

It would make a boring movie.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 05, 2021 09:00 AM (w6btn)

179 A lot of people have a problem with this and expect life to be life a movie or TV, especially kids whose family life doesn't measure up. Plenty of adults think love and relationships should be like entertainments, too. Sad

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:56 AM (ONvIw)
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I don't know, my current situation in particular is like a season of some 90s dramedy, maybe "The Gilmore Girls." So much frickin drama all over the place.

I even joked about it over dinner Friday, pointing out that the story line of my youngest being isolated and depressed by remote classes was dropped for this season because the fans hated it and that she's cracking jokes again because they fired one of the writers and the replacement has more talent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:00 AM (llXky)

180 Indigenous Knowledge

The part of the buffalo the Indians did not use.

https://tinyurl.com/4dcfpyfj

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:00 AM (yrol0)

181 ."and now has withered into importing rapists and being unable to tell men from women.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd"

Well, it was written in 1876. Interesting take on it though. The author also claims Latin is dead and the Romans were not really all that.

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 09:00 AM (Tnijr)

182 Salon
Why Satanists may be the last, best hope to save abortion rights in Texas

They said the quiet part out loud!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:02 AM (yrol0)

183 Starsky & Hutch!

Posted by: Texican ette at September 05, 2021 09:02 AM (8TfZ+)

184 Our kids were avid Eleanor Estes readers, though even then her books were seen as dated. Of older series, their favorite writer was Marjorie Flack and her "Angus" series.

https://tinyurl.com/ckrhvak3

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 05, 2021 09:02 AM (Xf1x/)

185 They all claimed to be "indians" with like 2% somewhere in the woodpile. What about the other 98%...
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 05, 2021 08:59 AM (R/m4+)

2% is about 20 times more the Liawatha.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:03 AM (yrol0)

186 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:00 AM (llXky)

Is it possible that some of the drama people create in their lives is because tv and movies set up that expectation and normalize overreaction?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 09:03 AM (ONvIw)

187 Best said aloud in Tony Curtis Brooklynese.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 08:54 AM (yrol0)

I accept those terms!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:04 AM (mZUr4)

188 BREAKING NEWS: On Sept.15, NOVA will be airing "Bat Superpowers"!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 09:04 AM (UHVv4)

189 "Best said aloud in Tony Curtis Brooklynese."

He was from The Bronx.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 09:04 AM (ZHVt1)

190 They all claimed to be "indians" with like 2% somewhere in the woodpile. What about the other 98%...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 05, 2021 08:59 AM (R/m4+)
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They might well have been. Tribal membership is largely based on direct lineage to someone whose name was captured on a tribal roll at a certain point in the past. It has nothing to do with genetics, although some tribes still use a blood quantum rule as well.

That's more than a little controversial because the historic tribes did no such thing, and the pressure to marry within the 'in group' must necessarily lead to problems. AFAIK, all Michigan tribes have closed their membership rolls. The only new members are the children of existing members.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:04 AM (llXky)

191 Another quote from "Norse Mythology"

May the time speedily come, nay, the time must come, when Greek and Anglo-Saxon and Old Norse and Gothic and German will shake hands over the bloody chasm of Roman vandalism!

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 09:04 AM (Tnijr)

192 Morning, Doof.

Between Milley and Trumbo we're littering the thread with worthless turds.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 08:57 AM (y7DUB)

As opposed to turds of significant value???

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:05 AM (mZUr4)

193 Sometimes I find good copies of old children's books at Goodwill, not often, but sometimes. Library also used to sell them when it did purges.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:05 AM (S1hrL)

194 64 I saw Hackman in a movie several years ago, and it was all about being a "sound" man for a (San Fran?) police department.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:24 AM (7Fj9P)

If it was SF, you know what would have been cool? A sequel where Hackman's character has to team up with Detective 'Dirty' Harry Callahan to nail some mafia guy.

Oh, the movies that could have been...

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 09:05 AM (FS4J7)

195 I got a copy of Donald Hamilton's "Line of Fire", a non-Matt Helm book.

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I ordered his nonfiction work, On Hunting and Guns. I understand it is basically a collection of articles he wrote for various outdoor magazines. It's OOP but used copies are available.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:05 AM (d9FiS)

196 Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 09:00 AM (Tnijr)

This goes back to the current idea that Latin and Greek work should not be read at all, much less in the original language.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 09:05 AM (ONvIw)

197 "Bono, Che Guevara, and RuPaul. Kind of an unholy trinity of civilizational decay."
and
"curious as to why Gen. Milley doesn't read about White Guilt instead of White Rage"

imo it is murder and sabotage, more than decay and ignorance/incompetence. Any institution the left (and/or "oligarchs") don't fully own after their long march, they are actively sabotaging (e.g. military and police rank and file). More evidence of intent -- cash and weapons left for terrorists while they ship unvetted Afghans into the interior of USA. It is a plan.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 05, 2021 09:07 AM (Cus5s)

198 Is it possible that some of the drama people create in their lives is because tv and movies set up that expectation and normalize overreaction?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 09:03 AM (ONvIw)
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It's more than that, it is about the perception that everyone on screen is a hot mess, so it's okay that you are, too. That's the new normal.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:07 AM (llXky)

199 A lot of people have a problem with this and expect life to be life a movie or TV, especially kids whose family life doesn't measure up. Plenty of adults think love and relationships should be like entertainments, too. Sad
Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 08:56 AM (ONvIw)

I know, intellectually, that movies are fake and life is generally drudgery with the occasional drop of sunshine. It's more the 'happily ever after' depictions or the trope of 'where is my soulmate?' that gets to me. I don't think I will ever have the relationship that I really want, because I don't even know what it is.

Which, I suppose, is why I suppress all my longings into my writing.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 09:08 AM (2JVJo)

200
I had something nearly written and ready to post when, while attempting to clean away some sort of goop on my fingers that came from the plastic case on my phone, I banished it to the interwebs ether. Damn!

Has anyone else experienced rubberized plastic coatings on products decaying into some type of sticky goo on their surface? What's up with that?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 09:08 AM (+2sc/)

201 Hackman grew up poor, and always had a need to work. He was in over 100 movies.

Same for Michael Caine.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 09:08 AM (ZHVt1)

202 "Who Was...." books gloss over any controversial subject matter in the person's life. Popular among school kids doing book reports. Obama and Michelle each have a book.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:09 AM (S1hrL)

203 There's a similar kid's book available about Simone Biles.

Obviously geared up before she washed out.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:09 AM (AwPyG)

204 Rubber bands would've ruined the profit margins of paper delivery at 13. Learned how to properly quickly fold them, and not toss it too far.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at September 05, 2021 09:09 AM (C/fpg)

205 As opposed to turds of significant value???
Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:05 AM (mZUr4)

Joyce and Proust were by most reports miserable to be around but were inspired writers.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 09:09 AM (y7DUB)

206 It's more than that, it is about the perception that everyone on screen is a hot mess, so it's okay that you are, too. That's the new normal.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:07 AM (llXky)

I think that does a lot of damage to people, in fact I know it does, many of my patients used to point to movies and tv shows as a source of their dissatisfaction and their behavior.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 09:10 AM (ONvIw)

207 BREAKING NEWS: On Sept.15, NOVA will be airing "Bat Superpowers"!
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 09:04 AM (UHVv4)

tell ace...

Posted by: runner at September 05, 2021 09:10 AM (V13WU)

208 I tend to not capitalize because my shift key is too close to "caps lock" and I am constantly goofing it up so that I sound like B. Roethlisberger

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:10 AM (AwPyG)

209 Some of you had your very own paper route?
Lucky!
I started out as a sub-contractor for my older brother.
I think you can well-imagine the pay scale.

Posted by: Lrrr at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (jIL4c)

210 I was a babysitter for 33 cents and hour.
Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (S1hrL)

What are you 90?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Way to make new friends, Cap'n !

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (arJlL)

211 Two worthwhile articles in AmGreatness this morning. One by Horowitz/Greenfield and one by Roger Kimball.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (S1hrL)

212 >>> 167 I recently dusted off my copy of Carl Sagan's "Demon Haunted World" that I bought when it first came out and quickly remembered why I never bothered reading it. Great title but a garbage book. It's now illuminating some tightly compacted space in the county landfill. But I continue to use the phrase "Demon Haunted World" to describe the thought world of Leftists in general. They believe themselves to be the masters of Science and Logic. Not so much.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2021 08:56 AM (M9SBl)

istr a passage in "Dragons of Eden" in which he mocks religion with an anecdote about an invisible dragon in someone's garage, for which no text of existence can possibly fail. So, a lot like glowball warmening, or wearing masks, or Communism will work with the Right People in Charge, Comrade!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (ACi07)

213 Looks like many Gopers have joined their Dem friends in moving female draft legislation forward.

Get your daughters and granddaughters ready.

Posted by: It's Happening at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (ynUFw)

214
May the time speedily come, nay, the time must come, when Greek and Anglo-Saxon and Old Norse and Gothic and German will shake hands over the bloody chasm of Roman vandalism!

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 09:04 AM (Tnijr)
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Was this dude a neo-pagan? Or one of those oddball types that used to think religion "evolved" into 19th Century German Protestantism?

If I'm not mistaken, there are now more active (church-going) Catholics in the UK than Anglicans. An Anglican bishop resigned last week so he could enter the Catholic Church.

C of E put out a statement that they were contacting all of the parishes in his diocese to see what they wanted to do. I guess the fear is that the whole lot of them might flip.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (llXky)

215 154 The Union version of Andersonville was Elmira Prison in New York.

Also Rock Island Arsenal in Illinois.

Posted by: Wethal at September 05, 2021 09:12 AM (ZzVCK)

216 Real IFR based on projected data thru 9/12/21:
0.0027%, 0-19
0.014%, 20-29
0.031%, 30-39
0.082%, 40-49
0.27%, 50-59
0.59%, 60-69

Less than half the seasonal flu for all ages.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:12 AM (yrol0)

217 Good morning, OM, good morning, Horde.

Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:13 AM (M4sfi)

218 Rubber bands would've ruined the profit margins of paper delivery at 13. Learned how to properly quickly fold them, and not toss it too far.
Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at September 05, 2021 09:09 AM (C/fpg)

The fold method came in handy on days where the paper was thin enough. Wednesdays were out because of the extra section - don't recall what it was.

Then there was the "bag or don't bag" decision on possible rainy days. Guessed wrong on several occasions and had the dreaded COMPLAINT form on my stack of papers the next day.

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:13 AM (mZUr4)

219 I was a babysitter for 33 cents and hour.
Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 08:39 AM (S1hrL)

What are you 90?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Way to make new friends, Cap'n !
Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (arJlL)

LOL, I know, but 33 cents?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2021 09:13 AM (Irn0L)

220 If it was SF, you know what would have been cool? A sequel where Hackman's character has to team up with Detective 'Dirty' Harry Callahan to nail some mafia guy.
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I can see it now: In the final scene, Callahan is wounded, and his .44 is lying *just* out of reach. Hackman's character, who eschews gun toting, rolls over and grabs the .44, and drills the bad guy just in time.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 09:14 AM (7Fj9P)

221 I tend to not capitalize because my shift key is too close to "caps lock" and I am constantly goofing it up so that I sound like B. Roethlisberger
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:10 AM (AwPyG)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE MY ALL CAPS SCHTICK IS DESIGNED TO MAKE MY THOUGHTS APPEAR PROFOUND.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 05, 2021 09:14 AM (2JVJo)

222 Which, I suppose, is why I suppress all my longings into my writing.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 09:08 AM (2JVJo)

I never met anyone who had the relationship they really want, but many are still satisfied, or sufficiently satisfied. A lot of people do think everyone else but them has an ideal life or perfect marriage.

My husband is like that. In our early years he expected me to be a composite of every detail he admired in other people's wives without considering their deficiencies, and in some cases denying them. Then his life long bestie with Miss Perfect, revealed that Miss Perfect did nothing with or for their kids and had multiple dalliances to capture "romance". That cured him.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 09:14 AM (ONvIw)

223 Has anyone else experienced rubberized plastic coatings on products decaying into some type of sticky goo on their surface? What's up with that?
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Yes, on my dad's very old flip-phone that I'm waiting to dispose of properly at the maker's retail outlet when the hysteria has, I hope, subsided.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (UHVv4)

224 I mowed lawns as a kid.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (y7DUB)

225 @210

Thank you! I am not 90, but I would like to live that long if the country gets turned around.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (S1hrL)

226 Having finished "Ashenden," I had a hankering to read more by a secret-agent author, in this case my favorite, Donald Hamilton. Having recently acquired two standalone novels by Hamilton -- "Line of Fire" and "Assassins Have Starry Eyes" -- I chose ...

"Cruises With Kathleen," a collection of essays and columns that Hamilton wrote about his adventures after he gave up motorboats and bought a sailboat, Kathleen. This was published in 1980, during a five-year gap in his Matt Helm series.

It's entertaining reading, although some of the nautical lingo leaves me lost. I need to look up some terms.

So far, he's recounted how he chose this sailboat design (purely by accident) and its initial trip, from Vancouver, B.C., to a harbor on the tip of Washington state, where he registered the boat with the Coast Guard. Next trip will be to southern California. Further voyages will be in the Caribbean and Atlantic.

And I'm still plugging away at "Helluva Town." The current section is about all the military installations that were set up in the NYC area.

(Blocked again, more to come.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (XesiI)

227 50 cents an hour. Three kids, three hours. Came home with a buck and a half.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (45fpk)

228 211 Second Ziba's suggestion

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (2JoB8)

229 >>> 216 Real IFR based on projected data thru 9/12/21:
0.0027%, 0-19
0.014%, 20-29
0.031%, 30-39
0.082%, 40-49
0.27%, 50-59
0.59%, 60-69

Less than half the seasonal flu for all ages.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:12 AM (yrol0)

YOU'RE KILLING GRADNDMA!!!!!

Posted by: Karen #3243295390 at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (ACi07)

230 @190

As with most things, the closely-guarded tribal lists often have a lot to do with money.

the tribes spilt casino money amongst the members.

I have a friend who's long time boyfriend felt he couldn't marry her, due to pressure from his tribe

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (AwPyG)

231 Some of you had your very own paper route?
Lucky!
I started out as a sub-contractor for my older brother.
I think you can well-imagine the pay scale.
Posted by: Lrrr at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (jIL4c)

LOL

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (mZUr4)

232 Good morning, OM, good morning, Horde.
Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:13 AM (M4sfi)

Howdy, Double C!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:16 AM (mZUr4)

233 I haven't read all the comments yet but I need to thank andycanuck and MPPPP again for their recommendations. Pierre Berton is the shit, as they say. I've read "Prisoners of the North" and "Niagara" and they were both incredible actually Berton has a really nice writing style, very readable, with a certain dry humor. I intend to read everything of his I can get my hands on.
Reading A Nervous Splendor now (Frederic Morton), rec'd by MPPPP. An interesting look at Vienna during my favorite period of art and classical music.
Love the Book Thread, thanks OM!

Posted by: Plum Duff at September 05, 2021 09:16 AM (dCxce)

234 1974s The Conversation, directed by Coppola.

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I was in some city with time to kill and nowhere to go and it was raining. I ducked into a theater to see this but mainly to get out of the rain. It blew me away.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:17 AM (d9FiS)

235 The movies that could be made...

The winnings that could have been won...

When i aquire X amount of disposable income damit..j'll make a movie.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 05, 2021 09:17 AM (w6btn)

236 LOL, I know, but 33 cents?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2021 09:13 AM (Irn0L)

Hey, $14.00 went a long way in 1980. I almost bought a hat at the clubhouse and it came with a free bowl of soup.

While we're young!

Posted by: Al Czervik at September 05, 2021 09:18 AM (R/m4+)

237 It's hot in Tucson!

The rubber lining around the windshield in my daughter's old chevy bl*zer started melting away in big gobs.

The dealer said they saw it often, in hot climates.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:18 AM (AwPyG)

238 "Then Che Guevara ordered his men to fight to the death.

After they'd died, he surrendered, saying, I am Che, I am worth more to you alive.

Then U.S. Army Special Forc-- Bolivian Rangers blew him away."

The End

Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:18 AM (M4sfi)

239 Thank you! I am not 90, but I would like to live that long if the country gets turned around.
Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (S1hrL)

Not sure I want to live to be 90? Ask me when I am 89. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2021 09:18 AM (Irn0L)

240 Good morning, OM, good morning, Horde.
Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:13 AM (M4sfi)

Howdy, Double C!
Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:16 AM (mZUr4)

Oops - I always capitalize "Double C". Don't mean to impose any intimidating hierarchy on you. Henceforth, it will be "double c"

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:18 AM (mZUr4)

241 Hey Doof!

Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:19 AM (M4sfi)

242 Happiness and contentment in real life often surpasses the movies. The movies are an hour or two to entertain or make a point. Real life happiness can be much greater than that. Sure it works both ways, real life sadness is rarely as stark, but it lasts much, much longer.

I respect movies for what they are. Like other forms of entertainment, and inspiration like novels, humans need them. Hell, we watch war movies during war time. If that doesn't make it clear we need this stuff, I don't know what else does. We read books about war during war time too.

The thing that has always stood out to me about movies is you simply take it as it comes. You have to read into it what it means to you, an actor is just a conduit.

How many times have we seen actors portray the greatest wisdom and learning, but in real life they could never measure up to that? I won't list the examples as they are so prevalent that they are almost universal. That doesn't diminish the role though. If it did, then the entire point of movies and novels would no longer exist.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 09:19 AM (X1Wj0)

243 Rubber bands would've ruined the profit margins of paper delivery at 13. Learned how to properly quickly fold them, and not toss it too far.
========================
Yeah, I know your kind. Called yourself a "paper boy". You were delivering those suburban journals that relied on ad revenue. If you weren't up to it that day, you could dump half your route in a 7-11 dumpster. I want to see you fold a Wednesday paper, with the food section and 5lbs of grocery store ads.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 09:20 AM (7Fj9P)

244 Hey, $14.00 went a long way in 1980. I almost bought a hat at the clubhouse and it came with a free bowl of soup.

While we're young!
Posted by: Al Czervik at September 05, 2021 09:18 AM (R/m4+)

You -- you're no gentleman!!

Posted by: Judge Smails at September 05, 2021 09:20 AM (mZUr4)

245 Yesterday, at a family birthday party, I suffered through a bunch of adults talking about "Game of Thrones" for a half hour. I'm being pressured to watch it, but just the little I've heard about it horrifies me. The 19 year old birthday girl is another holdout. She nodded when I said "I'm not going to watch a TV show which features someone being shamed by being shit on." My SIL said, "oh, if you liked LOTR, you would like GoT." Actually, no - Game of Thrones sounds like LOTR rewritten by the Marquis de Sade. To liken the two is to totally miss LOTR's morality. Game of Thrones sounds totally amoral with no good characters, only those who are less evil than others.

Posted by: donna&&&&&V at September 05, 2021 09:20 AM (HabA/)

246 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE CHER TWEETS IN ALL-CAPS TOO!

Posted by: ben roethlisberger at September 05, 2021 09:20 AM (UHVv4)

247 I was in some city with time to kill and nowhere to go and it was raining. I ducked into a theater to see this but mainly to get out of the rain. It blew me away.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:17 AM (d9FiS)

thanks for that reminder. I have heard about it many times and always wanted to see it. Somehow I have yet to get around to it.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 09:21 AM (X1Wj0)

248 I was able to bank $250 from my paper route but quit at 13 for a new career as a dishwasher. Made a buck an hour, but quit after about 4 months for a job closer to home paying $1.19 an hour. Was a line cook by 16 making $1.65.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 05, 2021 09:21 AM (89OU7)

249 The Conversation came out in between Godfather I and II. Quite a run in a short time for Coppola.

John Cazale was in all three, plus Deer Hunter and Dog Day Afternoon. He was only in five movies, and all were Oscar nominated. So five for five. (Six for six if you count his postumous footage in Godfather III).

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 09:21 AM (ZHVt1)

250 240 Ah, Doof...why'd you have to go and do that?

Now I have no choice. So what will it be? Sabers at 30 paces? Water pistols at dawn?

Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:21 AM (M4sfi)

251 1974s The Conversation, directed by Coppola.

-
I was in some city with time to kill and nowhere to go and it was raining. I ducked into a theater to see this but mainly to get out of the rain. It blew me away.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:17 AM (d9FiS)

I don't recall this ever receiving a promotional push with trailers on tv. I saw it on video at the advice of multiple friends.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 09:22 AM (y7DUB)

252 Gyag Gov Donuts Christie on the Texas heartbeat law - all about allowing rape

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 05, 2021 09:22 AM (VOlWt)

253 @216

If you want to feel very encouraged, take a look at the videos of the college football stands from yesterday (one's on trump's parody account, @ il donaldo trumpo)

completely packed and jumping. 80 thousand at a time

the folks at the CDC must be tearing their hair out, because it's clear that their messaging isn't working with the young folks.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:22 AM (AwPyG)

254 211 Two worthwhile articles in AmGreatness this morning. One by Horowitz/Greenfield and one by Roger Kimball.
Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:11 AM (S1hrL)

That first beer today cannot come too early!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:22 AM (yrol0)

255 Good Morning, Donna of the Ampersands !

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:23 AM (arJlL)

256 I started out as a sub-contractor for my older brother.
==========================
I remember those sweet times when I could Tom Sawyer a cute girl into helping me band papers.
Good times, good times.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 09:23 AM (7Fj9P)

257
I finished reading "The Pueblo Revolt" by Robert Silverberg, about the expulsion of the Spanish settlers from New Mexico for the period 1680 to 1692. The Pueblo, Hopi, and Zuni had overcome their hitherto tradition of non-cooperation to expel all the invaders in just two months. Internal squabbles after that led to the later success of the expelled Spanish in recovering and re-establishing their colony with comparative ease. Silverberg details all this, with his starting point being the Spaniards' searches for the Seven Cities of Gold, Cibola (later Quivira), followed by colonization.

Yes, this is the Robert Silverberg of sci-fi renown. This is an excellent narration of a little known and short lived turning of the tables by Native Americans on those who came for their lands.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 09:23 AM (+2sc/)

258 GoT works because it has so many great characters. Not all are evil. But it's an evil medieval world.

The show runners blew the landing by having all the character arcs resolved at once, often at odds with the characters they had created,

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 09:25 AM (ZHVt1)

259 The trailer for TWoT looked quite diverse! I don't remember that about that in the books...

Posted by: lin-duh at September 05, 2021 09:25 AM (UUBmN)

260 I've also finished rereading the Roger Stern run of my Doctor Strange comics. (Can any ink-stained wretch in the Horde tell me whether comics titles should take quotation marks?)

A key story has an evil dictator overthrown when the people of her realm see what she is really like and lose faith in her, causing her power to dwindle enough that a rebel leader can knock her out with a magical bolt.

This story makes me long for this to happen today, sans magic. Even although Biden is slipping in polls, there are still at least 40 percent supporting him! This makes me sad. How blind can they be? (Don't answer that.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 05, 2021 09:25 AM (rYZAP)

261 Posted by: donna&&&&&V at September 05, 2021 09:20 AM (HabA/)

Game of Thrones -- watch it for the spectacle and production that it is. The story -- meh. Some great dialog. Epic battles and such. Overall, I'd say very good acting. The characters you're supposed to dislike are well portrayed by the actors and actresses.

Posted by: Judge Smails at September 05, 2021 09:25 AM (mZUr4)

262 Now that I've finished my bacon and eggs.....

I just finished reading Touch, by Elmore Leonard.

Not his best effort IMHO, but not bad.

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:25 AM (arJlL)

263 >>> 253 @216

If you want to feel very encouraged, take a look at the videos of the college football stands from yesterday (one's on trump's parody account, @ il donaldo trumpo)

completely packed and jumping. 80 thousand at a time

the folks at the CDC must be tearing their hair out, because it's clear that their messaging isn't working with the young folks.
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:22 AM (AwPyG)

80,000 college football fans died today due to being shot and not being able to get into the overflowing ER filled with horse de-wormer overdosers!!!

Posted by: Rolling Stone Magazine at September 05, 2021 09:25 AM (ACi07)

264 You -- you're no gentleman!!
Posted by: Judge Smails at September 05, 2021 09:20 AM (mZUr4)

Hey! I'm no door knob either...

Posted by: Al Czervik at September 05, 2021 09:26 AM (R/m4+)

265 You're welcome, Plum Duff.

I guess it's lucky I just got to the thread with my bat news just a bit ago.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 09:26 AM (UHVv4)

266 Life is too short to spend on The Wheel of Time.

Just ask Robert Jordan.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 05, 2021 09:26 AM (VOlWt)

267 Off Caddyshack sock

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:26 AM (mZUr4)

268 Gyag Gov Donuts Christie on the Texas heartbeat law - all about allowing rape
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 05, 2021 09:22 AM (VOlWt)

Too bad Fat RINO Bastard doesn't stick out so much as an outlying illustration of the ills of the GOP.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 09:27 AM (y7DUB)

269 We got your back, CDC.

We know how to rap with the young people!

Posted by: Rolling Stone Magazine at September 05, 2021 09:27 AM (ACi07)

270 sorry I'm late - scored some labor day meat sales at a couple groceries

I actually read this week!
The True Story of Hansel & Gretel by Louise Murphy ( WW2 historical fiction set in Poland) and I'm midway through

A Man at Arms - new book by Stephen Pressfield set in 55AD - an former Roman soldier turned mercenary sets out to capture a Christian carrying a letter from Paul

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 05, 2021 09:27 AM (oEn12)

271
Yesterday, at a family birthday party, I suffered through a bunch of adults talking about "Game of Thrones" for a half hour. I'm being pressured to watch it, but just the little I've heard about it horrifies me. The 19 year old birthday girl is another holdout.

You may want to rethink your characterization of the "bunch of adults".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 09:27 AM (+2sc/)

272 252 Gyag Gov Donuts Christie on the Texas heartbeat law - all about allowing rape
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 05, 2021 09:22 AM (VOlWt)

Texas had first state law requiring all rape kits to be processed.

Texas really doesnt have rape but Sexual Assault:
Causes sexual penetration of the anus or other sexual organ (commonly known as rape),
Forced oral copulation,
Causes ones sexual organ to contact or penetrate the victims mouth, anus, or sexual organ, or
Does any of the above to a child (under the age of 17).

At 16 and under becomes First Degree.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:27 AM (yrol0)

273 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 05, 2021 08:03 AM (K5n5d)

Inspector says it's probably a real Navajo name and she looks Navajo. She may be feeling that she has to make a push for "woke" now because the tribe as a whole seems to be moving away from progressivism (they endorsed Trump for 2020, their first ever official tribal endorsement).

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 05, 2021 09:28 AM (1lKRm)

274 If you want to feel very encouraged, take a look at the videos of the college football stands from yesterday (one's on trump's parody account, @ il donaldo trumpo)

completely packed and jumping. 80 thousand at a time

I saw the U-Wisconsin one. Amazing.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 09:28 AM (45fpk)

275 He makes more money dead than i ever see here and now.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 05, 2021 09:28 AM (w6btn)

276 I just finished reading Touch, by Elmore Leonard.

Not his best effort IMHO, but not bad.
Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:25 AM (arJlL)

What are your top recommendations of his works? I just recently read Pronto. Wanted the back story on Raylan, as I'm a yuuuuge fan of Justified. Considering City Primeval next since there's a TV series in the works.

What else do you suggest?

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:29 AM (mZUr4)

277
80,000 college football fans died today due to being shot and not being able to get into the overflowing ER filled with horse de-wormer overdosers!!!
Posted by: Rolling Stone Magazine

LOL

When all you are good at is digging holes, you'll keep digging holes.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 09:29 AM (+2sc/)

278 I saw the U-Wisconsin one. Amazing.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 09:28 AM (45fpk)

Be careful watching those videos, some of them ended up in very loud, very vocal "F" Biden chants all over the stadiums....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (7bRMQ)

279 Let's discuss what would happen to a college student who sent daily emails to Dr. Manyguns in ALL CAPS.

suspension? expulsion? hate crime charges?

Posted by: retropox at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (HrV7Y)

280 Reading Leslie Kean's "UFO" a 2010 NYT best-seller...meh...'best-seller' don't mean 'good book'.

Posted by: BignJames at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (AwYPR)

281 Ah, Doof...why'd you have to go and do that?

Now I have no choice. So what will it be? Sabers at 30 paces? Water pistols at dawn?
Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:21 AM (M4sfi)

My apologies. I concede defeat and will return to proper capitalization!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (mZUr4)

282 CNN - Rolling Stone magazine collapsed six months ago and no one noticed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (VOlWt)

283 Quick...invest in coffins.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (w6btn)

284 some of them ended up in very loud, very vocal "F" Biden chants all over the stadiums....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (7bRMQ)

Such a shame.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (45fpk)

285 suspension? expulsion? hate crime charges?
Posted by: retropox at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (HrV7Y)

The admiration of a grateful nation?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (ONvIw)

286 @278

Another indication that it's not going well, for the enemy

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (AwPyG)

287 OK, folks, I'm going to go back to my own book and see if I can knock off at least one more chapter today.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (2JVJo)

288 I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so. I painted houses.

Turning tricks down at the local bus station. And I had to give 10% to the Big Guy.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (UGKMd)

289 >>> 279 Let's discuss what would happen to a college student who sent daily emails to Dr. Manyguns in ALL CAPS.

suspension? expulsion? hate crime charges?
Posted by: retropox at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (HrV7Y)

We're on it!

Posted by: Top Men and Whammen at the Eff.Bee.Eye at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (ACi07)

290 Reading Leslie Kean's "UFO" a 2010 NYT best-seller...meh...'best-seller' don't mean 'good book'.

Posted by: BignJames at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (AwYPR)

I make a point of not reading NYT best-sellers.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 09:32 AM (45fpk)

291 Whoops, off sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 05, 2021 09:32 AM (2JVJo)

292 John Cazale was in all three, plus Deer Hunter and Dog Day Afternoon. He was only in five movies, and all were Oscar nominated. So five for five. (Six for six if you count his postumous footage in Godfather III).

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 09:21 AM (ZHVt1)

that is pretty incredible.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 09:32 AM (X1Wj0)

293 >>> 278 I saw the U-Wisconsin one. Amazing.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 09:28 AM (45fpk)

Be careful watching those videos, some of them ended up in very loud, very vocal "F" Biden chants all over the stadiums....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (7bRMQ)

REEEE!!!

Insurrectionists!!!

Posted by: Top Men and Whammen at the Eff.Bee.Eye at September 05, 2021 09:33 AM (ACi07)

294 Now Christie is saying on ABC that Bidet looks scared.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 05, 2021 09:33 AM (VOlWt)

295 Had a paper route of my own a couple years but very sad story covering a friend's, a good friend and me were to do this mutual friend's route over Christmas/ New Year vacation and meet up at like 6am, he died in a house fire the night before.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 09:33 AM (2JoB8)

296 Alyssa Milano
@Alyssa_Milano
Just a reminder, there's a law in Texas that prohibits a woman from owning more than 6 dildos.

But you can own as many guns as you want.

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I doubt that is true but, regardless, there is no dildo amendment in the constitution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:34 AM (d9FiS)

297 The rubber button for opening the backdoor to my Sienna got all gooey in the SC heat.

I replaced it. I guess Toyota is using a better rubber now.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 05, 2021 09:34 AM (xopIz)

298 Dang, Skip. How horrible.

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:34 AM (mZUr4)

299 Yay for college football; F the NFL.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:34 AM (S1hrL)

300 Turning tricks down at the local bus station. And I had to give 10% to the Big Guy.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (UGKMd)

tff

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:35 AM (yrol0)

301 "This goes back to the current idea that Latin and Greek work should not be read at all, much less in the original language.
Posted by: CN "

The author makes the case that the Norse and Greek myths are similar in nature and both worthy of the same depth of study, and that the Romans were brutes not worth mentioning.

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 09:35 AM (Tnijr)

302 Another indication that it's not going well, for the enemy

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:31 AM (AwPyG)

Yeah, I remember booing at other Presidents, but no chants like that.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 09:35 AM (7bRMQ)

303 Well, we know a bit more about Miss Milano now, don't we?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 09:35 AM (PiwSw)

304 281 Nah, we're good, Doof! That was fake rage. It's not like I'm some woke vegan.

Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:35 AM (M4sfi)

305 Alyssa Milano
@Alyssa_Milano
Just a reminder, there's a law in Texas that prohibits a woman from owning more than 6 dildos.

But you can own as many guns as you want.

-
I doubt that is true but, regardless, there is no dildo amendment in the constitution.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:34 AM (d9FiS)

And her husband must be shit at sex for her to need more than 6 dildos?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2021 09:36 AM (Irn0L)

306 Six at once Alyssa?

Run!!!

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 05, 2021 09:36 AM (VOlWt)

307 Son's Catholic HS offered Latin, and yes, some kids actually took it.

Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:36 AM (S1hrL)

308 @290
And I think I've mentioned before, that Glenn Beck (I think it was) sued the NYTimes, because back in the day his books sold like hotcakes, but he never made their bestselling list--not even top 100. He claimed they hurt him economically by this.

The NYTimes was forced to admit that their "best seller" lists were not based on actual sales, but instead on their own opinions of best books (which sounds like fraud, no?)

They judge dismissed the case.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:37 AM (AwPyG)

309 careful watching those videos, some of them ended up in very loud, very vocal "F" Biden chants all over the stadiums....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 09:30 AM (7bRMQ)

Link?

Cause the video I saw that claimed that had about 2 people yelling it.

Posted by: I mean at September 05, 2021 09:37 AM (QKRDW)

310 I remember those sweet times when I could Tom Sawyer a cute girl into helping me band papers.
--------------------------------
You told them you were with the band??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 09:37 AM (UHVv4)

311 Yay for college football; F the NFL.
Posted by: Ziba at September 05, 2021 09:34 AM (S1hrL)

Enjoyed a few games yesterday. The constant barrage of WuFlu fear porn at the bottom of the screen near the score ticker is annoying. It is NOT newsworthy that someone tested positive!!!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:38 AM (mZUr4)

312 What else do you suggest?
Posted by: Doof

Mr. Majestyk
Maximum Bob
Unknown Man #89

Anything by him !

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:38 AM (arJlL)

313 @307

A lot of kids took Latin as their language prerequisite, because it didn't require learning conversational Latin.

And it's more logical than most languages.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:38 AM (AwPyG)

314 "Has anyone else experienced rubberized plastic coatings on products decaying into some type of sticky goo on their surface? What's up with that?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot"

Yes. Stuff like like rubber knobs and handles. It's crap probably because of some regulation.

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 09:38 AM (Tnijr)

315 No matter their utterances my answers are the same...

If you really believe that than you should invest in coffins and mass grave digging equipment.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 05, 2021 09:40 AM (w6btn)

316 Oh yeah, must thank All Hail Eris for turning me on to John Bellairs, as well as just turning me on (your dungeon must be a hoot, girl). Those are great kid's books. Wish I'd found them when I was a youngster. I don't have kids but I recommend them for those that do, and they're great for adults too. Luckily for me, the U of U library fascists haven't discovered them yet. One nice thing about living in Utah (among about a million), the Karens are always a couple of decades out of date.

Posted by: Plum Duff at September 05, 2021 09:40 AM (dCxce)

317 Nah, we're good, Doof! That was fake rage. It's not like I'm some woke vegan.
Posted by: callsign claymore at September 05, 2021 09:35 AM (M4sfi)

Haha -- good chirps are always fun!!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:40 AM (mZUr4)

318 >>> 308 @290
And I think I've mentioned before, that Glenn Beck (I think it was) sued the NYTimes, because back in the day his books sold like hotcakes, but he never made their bestselling list--not even top 100. He claimed they hurt him economically by this.

The NYTimes was forced to admit that their "best seller" lists were not based on actual sales, but instead on their own opinions of best books (which sounds like fraud, no?)

They judge dismissed the case.
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:37 AM (AwPyG)

Well, DUH. The NYTimes publishes the *approved* truth.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge #582 at September 05, 2021 09:40 AM (ACi07)

319 I love that may I borrow your book cartoon

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at September 05, 2021 09:40 AM (oEn12)

320 @309

The TV folks necessarily drowned out the chants, but do a search and you'll find them--very clear and loud.

The TV folks also tried to focus on the one or two young people who were wearing masks out of a crowd of 80,000, where 99% weren't. It was hilarious.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:41 AM (AwPyG)

321 Important question: How does Alyssa Many Dildoes feel about capitalization??

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 09:41 AM (7Fj9P)

322 Dang, Skip. How horrible.
Posted by: Doof

Yeah; Jeez !

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:41 AM (arJlL)

323 Why is Alyssa Milano so determined to present herself as an idiot?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021 09:41 AM (cSyAR)

324 "Was this dude a neo-pagan? Or one of those oddball types that used to think religion "evolved" into 19th Century German Protestantism?"

No, I think he was just very enthusiastic about Norse Mythology. The un-corrupted version.

Posted by: f'd at September 05, 2021 09:41 AM (Tnijr)

325 @102 --

JTB, you, too?

Bet you finish and review it before I do.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 05, 2021 09:42 AM (rYZAP)

326 A lot of kids took Latin as their language prerequisite, because it didn't require learning conversational Latin.

And it's more logical than most languages.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:38 AM (AwPyG)

few in high school or college come out of language courses with the ability to have a random conversation. For sure in College, it is about learning grammar and then appreciating obscure literature that breaks all the grammar rules they learned. There is a reason you have native Spanish speakers making c's in college Spanish classes.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 09:42 AM (X1Wj0)

327 What else do you suggest?
Posted by: Doof

Mr. Majestyk
Maximum Bob
Unknown Man #89

Anything by him !
Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 09:38 AM (arJlL)

Thanks! Working on Confess, Fletch right now. Movie adaptation of that in the works. Will return to Elmore Leonard afterwards.

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:43 AM (mZUr4)

328 @311 "Enjoyed a few games yesterday. The constant barrage of WuFlu fear porn at the bottom of the screen near the score ticker is annoying. It is NOT newsworthy that someone tested positive!!!"

Sort of OT but a tangent to this observation. I can't wait for the new spin on Joe Rogan's Covid recovery that "he never had Covid" because it's impossible to clear the virus in a days (positive PCR covid test followed by negative after short course of treatment).

Of course, this would be to admit that all those "cases" (itself irrelevant to the incidence of serious disease or death) are being grossly overcounted, because a positive, highly-cycled PCR test is not even diagnosis of a "case." Hence all the "new cases!" are a bright, shining lie. Unless they're not, in which case JR cleared his Covid with "horse dewormer" in record time... But but...

Posted by: Zek at September 05, 2021 09:43 AM (w/5KC)

329 109 ... "I have that one at home, and while I've read and enjoyed it, I'm blurry on what the plot was. Something to do with a hired assassin?"

Yep. I haven't got too far into it yet but there are hints that some serious plot twists are coming. This is one I haven't read before so I don't have the details yet.

I sent some of my extra old Matt Helm paperbacks to my niece and her husband. They are fine young people who are learning to appreciate 'old' classic firearms. I think they will enjoy them. And it's fun to spread the contagion.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 09:43 AM (7EjX1)

330 147 Yes, but those ideas aren't her own. She, like all the victim class, has been polluted by leftist Social Justice theory. Some white dude w/tenure told her to think this way. I guarantee that dog wouldn't hunt back on her rez.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 08:49 AM (7Fj9P)

Reminds me of a story that one of Minnesota's radio personalities is known to tell on the air. Some years ago he, being an asshole shock jock, said something or other racially insensitive about the natives. If you know anything about Minnesota's history then you know that 1) honky-Indian relations are a very sore subject and 2) the place is chock full of libs, so all the NPR types did their utmost to cancel him. About the only support or non-condemnation he got was from one of the local tribes in question, who were actually diplomatic about it and reached out to him to have a sit-down and sort this out. Needless to say they all became total bros in the aftermath.

Posted by: CppThis at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (UewuT)

331 Delco Daily times was not as thick as the city paper. But no possible incentive to dump papers into a dumpster. I'd forgotten the one day a week it was noticeably harder to fold them!
Best story I remember was one wet day I left paper behind storm door, which slammed closed. Guy came running out of his house shouting 'you through the paper on the roof'. Of course it was a house I usually had trouble collecting from, and always at least one crazy customer per street.

Posted by: InspiredHistoryMike at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (C/fpg)

332 Ahoy!

This Bull From The Sea sounds interesting. Would someone contribute the $2.99 c/o The Bulwark so I can read it?

Posted by: Cap'n Bill at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (a3Q+t)

333 Why is Alyssa Milano so determined to present herself as an idiot?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021 09:41 AM (cSyAR)

It works for her. If she didn't do that, I would have forgotten about her like The Bear from BJ and the Bear. From a tv culture standpoint, to me, they were equals. I didn't start responding to her until the 900th time someone online mention one of her hot takes.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (X1Wj0)

334 I doubt that is true but, regardless, there is no dildo amendment in the constitution.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:34 AM (d9FiS)

I believe it is called the Tenth Inch Amendment.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (yrol0)

335 UFO.

https://bit.ly/3yLurP0

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (d9FiS)

336 To liken the two is to totally miss LOTR's morality. Game of Thrones sounds totally amoral with no good characters, only those who are less evil than others.

Posted by: donna&&&&&V at September 05, 2021
09:20 AM (HabA/)
---
I hated the gratuitous porno scenes that served zero plot purpose. I found it telling that Pastor David French loved, loved, loved that sick crap.

Quit after season one, don't regret it. I missed nothing but a big let-down. And now off to Mass.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (llXky)

337 Greetings:

Two years of Caesar's Latin under the tutelage of Mr. Giacomo Pagano.

Go with the Giacomo !!!

Posted by: 11B40 at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (uuklp)

338 I've not watched a minute of GoT.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021 09:46 AM (cSyAR)

339 Got stalled 1/2 way through Best and the Brightest by Halberstam. First-rate piece of research and third-rate writing (bloated, repetitive, cluttered). A really good editor and that boy could've been onto something.

Posted by: Zek at September 05, 2021 09:46 AM (w/5KC)

340 I believe it is called the Tenth Inch Amendment.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (yrol0)

You asked for it...
https://youtu.be/gweUVWUYYQ8

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:46 AM (mZUr4)

341 The NYTimes was forced to admit that their "best seller" lists were not based on actual sales,
========================
I thought the NYTimes Best Sellers list was based on samples from indie bookstores, like our local Left Bank Books. ("Leftist Bank Books.") In which case, I'd bet Beck's books were doing poorly.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 09:46 AM (7Fj9P)

342 Link?

Cause the video I saw that claimed that had about 2 people yelling it.

Posted by: I mean at September 05, 2021 09:37 AM (QKRDW)

Yeah, the first vid sounds like only a couple, the second one sounds like more people.

https://tinyurl.com/9cy6kn8k

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 09:47 AM (7bRMQ)

343 Greetings:

Game of Thrones:

I seem to remember a series long subplot involving brother and sister incest. Is it unmentionable ???

And are f-words and s-words signs of "empowered" women these days ???

Posted by: 11B40 at September 05, 2021 09:47 AM (uuklp)

344 You asked for it...
https://youtu.be/gweUVWUYYQ8
Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:46 AM (mZUr4)

What are things not in my browser history Alex?

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM (yrol0)

345 @323

I feel sorry for Milano, and any of the child actors or actresses who came up through the Disney/Nickelodeon
studios, where many were abused and passed around (and still are, if you believe the reports)

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM (AwPyG)

346 Morning bookmates.

I worked in my father's bakery. Before that, I created a plan to get paid for watching my sisters every time my parents left the house and presented a bill at the end of the week. I was an entrepreneur at an early age.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM (Y+l9t)

347 me recently:

1) "The Pigeon Run," by John le Carre. This is NOT a novel. It's standalone autobiographical reminiscences-- although with a novelist, you're never entirely sure where facts may have been embroidered a bit. At the time of his death, le Carre was in the process of switching his citizenship from British to Irish-- because he was so bitter about Brexit.

2) "The Scramble for Africa: White Man's Conquest of the Dark Continent From 1876 to 1912," by Thomas Pakenham. An objective history, imo. I liked the fact that the author gives the reader a holistic view of colonization-- you get to see what was happening everywhere, contemporaneously.

Some of the material was quite familiar (King Leopold in the Congo), but a great deal of it was unfamiliar indeed (the French in Tunisia).

Posted by: mnw at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM (Cssks)

348 I once saw the whole Game Of Thrones series, or at least the first 5-6 seasons that had been released at that point, for about 60 bucks at a used music store. Kind of regret passing up such a convenient opportunity to buy and watch a popular show, but I don't watch much television as it is so realistically I'd probably never get around to actually watching it.

I love the "I drink and know things" line, though. That's pretty much an engineer's dream job!

Posted by: CppThis at September 05, 2021 09:49 AM (UewuT)

349 What are things not in my browser history Alex?
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM (yrol0)

Haha -- it's safe. Aerosmith song.

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:49 AM (mZUr4)

350 Ahoy, bookfagz!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 05, 2021 09:49 AM (II3Gr)

351 @343

Not that I approve of the over-the-top violence and sex, but to be fair, George RR Martin tended to write very strong female characters.

So there's a point in his favor.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:49 AM (AwPyG)

352
I am SO about rejecting hierarchy that I just have to use my hierarchically provided platform to proclaim my rejection of hierarchy!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 09:50 AM (+2sc/)

353 Life is too short to spend on The Wheel of Time.
Just ask Robert Jordan.
A question. Since before your sun burned hot in space and before your race was born, I have awaited a question.

Posted by: The Guardian of Forever at September 05, 2021 09:50 AM (UHVv4)

354 Just finished Richard Evans' Third Reich trilogy and now I'm into Red Famine by Applebaum. I'm rather amazed at how the political attitudes and policies are so similar to today. Everything old is new again. I guess totalitarians are all the same down through history.

Also, I get so many reading recommendations from this thread. It's great. Thanks OM!

Posted by: Old Blue at September 05, 2021 09:50 AM (VNmG1)

355 I've not watched a minute of GoT.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021 09:46 AM (cSyAR)

I tried the first one on demand but couldn't get through it. Same with Deadwood. Deadwood was a letdown because I love Westerns. I am going to give it another try though just to be fair. And I am not crapping on these shows, I just could not get into them. I know there are a couple movies I hated the on the first watch that I later learned to love.

BTW, I have seen Lost three or four times through. I mention that because many can't stand that series. But Lost did a good job of hooking you early and only screwed up later.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 09:50 AM (X1Wj0)

356 I love the "I drink and know things" line, though. That's pretty much an engineer's dream job!
Posted by: CppThis at September 05, 2021 09:49 AM (UewuT)

I have a coffee mug and a bourbon glass with that on it. Birthday gifts several years ago. Tyrion was my favorite GoT character. I'm known among family and friends as a trivia nerd. And I love bourbon. So that line fits me well!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:52 AM (mZUr4)

357 I stayed abreast of G of T for the same reason I stayed abreast of Twilight and 50 shades, even though they weren't to my taste.

They were cultural phenomena, and everyone would talk about them.

It's kind of why I stay abreast of the standings in baseball--I'm not that interested, but other people are

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:52 AM (AwPyG)

358 careful watching those videos, some of them ended up in very loud, very vocal "F" Biden chants all over the stadiums....
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Similar as Joe visits Louisiana.

https://bit.ly/3hoctMH

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 09:52 AM (d9FiS)

359 352
I am SO about rejecting hierarchy that I just have to use my hierarchically provided platform to proclaim my rejection of hierarchy!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 09:50 AM (+2sc/)

Right on target. Rejecting hierarchy while insisting on being part of it for money.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 09:52 AM (ONvIw)

360 Please call her "doctor manyguns."

I call dibs on "dr. justonemoreandimdonereally."

Posted by: Oddbob at September 05, 2021 09:53 AM (WoXYL)

361 I never watch modern shows when they are on, other than maybe Last Man Standing. But the dramatic stuff just doesn't interest me. I recall something about a controversy that there was some depiction of Bush that turned me off. I think we all recall that. That took my interest in the show from 1 to 0. Now if I had read the books, or even knew they existed, I would have been fired up to watch it.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 09:53 AM (X1Wj0)

362 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at September 05, 2021 09:54 AM (RhbcX)

363 Not that I approve of the over-the-top violence and sex, but to be fair, George RR Martin tended to write very strong female characters.

So there's a point in his favor.
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:49 AM (AwPyG)

Arya is badass!!!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:54 AM (mZUr4)

364 Does anyone here remember the Allen Drury cold war political novels? I feel they are as true today as they were 60 years ago. Advise and Consent, Preserve and Protect, etc.

Posted by: Happy at September 05, 2021 09:55 AM (uOkeC)

365 I saw the U-Wisconsin one. Amazing.

Posted by: grammie winger at September 05, 2021 09:28 AM (45fpk)

Right here:

https://tinyurl.com/3ewxarz7

It does indeed look amazing.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 09:56 AM (FS4J7)

366 I cannot stand G.R.R. Martin. I wasted a great deal of time reading anything beyond the first book in the series. His disjointed style where every chapter follows a different character made it impossible to follow the story lines. He never finished anything. I read once that he had a bunch of fanboys keeping track of different characters and storylines because he had no idea where he was going in the books. The maps in the book made no sense if you were trying to follow a battle for example.
End of rant

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 09:57 AM (Y+l9t)

367 Good morning JT!

Posted by: donna&&&&&V at September 05, 2021 09:57 AM (HabA/)

368 Deadwood is a masterpiece of writing. Auteur David Milch mixes real-life characters with fictional, and several characters channel different voices from great writers.

Al Swearengen is profane Shakespeare. Alma Garrett is Henry James. Calamity Jane is genune frontier gibberish.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 09:57 AM (ZHVt1)

369 Quint -- I encourage you to give Deadwood another try. Outstanding acting and dialog. As long as you don't mind excessive usage of f-bombs and "c-sucker".

Pretty sure you've seen Justified, correct??

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 09:57 AM (mZUr4)

370 Greetings:

You know, bows and arrows versus muskets wasn't all that much of an imbalance. 16th and 17th Century muskets weren't very accurate and a bit cumbersome to reload.

I think that why Rogers Rangers went with the tomahawks.

Michael Mann's "Last of the Mohicans" explains it all in scientific depth.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 05, 2021 09:57 AM (uuklp)

371 I feel sorry for Milano, and any of the child actors or actresses who came up through the Disney/Nickelodeon
studios, where many were abused and passed around (and still are, if you believe the reports)

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM

I have no doubt she's been sexually abused by leftists.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 09:58 AM (cSyAR)

372 @366

Yes, I'm never a fan of the "multiple points of view" format, because I want to identify with a character, like a baby duckling.

For a while, it was very much in vogue in NY publishing, probably due to G of T. I think it's died down, now

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:59 AM (AwPyG)

373 Thanks to all the Book Thread Morons leaving book reviews! It really does help, and it doesn't have to be long--just a few lines of your impressions. Even "meh" reviews can help! For one thing it shows you're not a bot (a problem in the early days) and for another, what bored one reader could be what someone else adores. I know a "hated this book, too much action and adventure and not enough oppression theater" review is like catnip for me

Now back to the *new* book in progress. Finished up a crucial big fight scene and had to rest up yesterday. Now there's aftermath (lots of aftermath... and revelations and things). Should be fun...

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at September 05, 2021 09:59 AM (7IHuq)

374 Does anyone here remember the Allen Drury cold war political novels? I feel they are as true today as they were 60 years ago. Advise and Consent,

-
SPOILER ALERT!

I've forgotten the details but it is about a confirmation hearing that is derailed when the candidate is found to be light in the loafers. How times have changed!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 10:00 AM (d9FiS)

375 195 ... "I ordered his nonfiction work, On Hunting and Guns. I understand it is basically a collection of articles he wrote for various outdoor magazines."

AW,
Yeah, I have that one too. It is fun reading and retains that 'Hamilton' tone I like.

Another Hamilton nonfiction is "Cruises With Kathleen", about his return to sailboats after years of power boating. Even if you aren't interested in the details of Kathleen (the boat) it is still an entertaining read. Published in 1980, used hardcover editions are available for around five bucks.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 10:00 AM (7EjX1)

376 Has anyone else seen the epic rap battle between Martin and Tolkien?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:00 AM (cSyAR)

377 Morning Hordemates!
Damn. Not only did I have pants like that back in the day, but the shirts too!
Groovy!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 05, 2021 10:00 AM (axyOa)

378 GrammieWinger, thanks for the Badger link. This is so positive.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:01 AM (ONvIw)

379 Just this April, Mount Royal University proudly announced that she was its new "associate vice-president of indigenization and decolonization," responsible for "providing vision, strategy, leadership and direction to advance indigenization and decolonization commitments."
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc

So a bullshit expert.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 10:01 AM (d9FiS)

380 Greetings:

I don't think baby ducklings identify. They imprint.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 05, 2021 10:01 AM (uuklp)

381 @371

Rumors that the same happened with the girl from Stranger Things, and the girl who's in the live action Cinderella movie coming out.

No one speaks out, and the police never look into it. Kevin Spacey's on a new set, free as a bird, after all his accusers mysteriously died.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:01 AM (AwPyG)

382 Willowed from the comments section in the Greenfield/Horowitz article at AmGreatness - as a Leftist-designated member of the NeoTaliban here in Texas, I really do want my Blackhawk helicopter, heavy machine guns and abundance Night Vision goggles. They'd look good in the driveway if nothing else.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2021 10:01 AM (M9SBl)

383 Joan to me is cuter, though Olivia was lovely. But Olivia's character in Gone With the Wind, Melanie, is one of the least believable characters in all moviedom. Not Olivia's fault, it's the way M was written.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 05, 2021 08:38 AM (quCFJ)

Melanie was supposed to be saintly, but she struck me as a ninny. To blindly trust in and love Ashley and Scarlett showed her to be a terrible judge of character.

Posted by: donna&&&&&V at September 05, 2021 10:02 AM (HabA/)

384 @380

that's the word! Flashback to HS Biology.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:02 AM (AwPyG)

385 @383

Melanie was a red shirt.

She's the impossibly good character, whose death serves as an emotional plot point for the heroine. So as far as that went, she was aces

See: Beth in Little Women, Rue in Hunger Games.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:04 AM (AwPyG)

386 I feel sorry for Milano, and any of the child actors or actresses who came up through the Disney/Nickelodeon
studios, where many were abused and passed around (and still are, if you believe the reports)
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM

Abuse does not give you leave to cudgel anyone but the abusers. It is never a justification for slurring others, and cancel "activism". Fuck her bullshit.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:04 AM (ONvIw)

387 I hated the gratuitous porno scenes that served zero plot purpose. I found it telling that Pastor David French loved, loved, loved that sick crap.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 05, 2021 09:44 AM (llXky)

I bailed after not making it through the first episode because of the 3 barnyard sex scenes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:04 AM (FS4J7)

388
A Longstanding Tradition - a limerick

In the year eighteen hundred ought-two*
We remember the hullaballoo
Now we honor the fallen sons
Of doctor linda manyguns
Who were lost down at Tippecanoe

(*Actually 1811, but poetic license so bite me)

Posted by: Muldoon at September 05, 2021 10:04 AM (m45I2)

389 Was Super Christian David French really a big GoT Gan?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (cSyAR)

390 370 RE: "not all that much of an imbalance":

In 1881, the Zulus slaughtered a British battalion (850 men). The British were armed with breech-loading rifles, AND field artillery. The Zulus were armed with spears (assegais) largely, although they had a handful of firearms.

"Despise Not Thy Enemy."

Posted by: mnw at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (Cssks)

391 >>> 382 Willowed from the comments section in the Greenfield/Horowitz article at AmGreatness - as a Leftist-designated member of the NeoTaliban here in Texas, I really do want my Blackhawk helicopter, heavy machine guns and abundance Night Vision goggles. They'd look good in the driveway if nothing else.
Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2021 10:01 AM (M9SBl)

Aw, crap. I haven't even bought my Very Large Gaia Hating Pickup yet and now I have to get a Blackhawk helicopter to fit in?!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (ACi07)

392 As I have already mentioned in other threads probably many times because I am so proud of myself, I finally finished book 2, Words of Radiance by Brandon Sanderson. Reading his books is like watching a movie. Characters and settings are so well drawn, you visualize the scenes as you are reading. His alternate world is so creative and alien but holds together. There are even drawings of his flora and fauna that are fantastic.
I have reserved book 3 from the library. This one is 1200 pages. May take me awhile.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (Y+l9t)

393 I have no doubt she's been sexually abused by leftists.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 09:58 AM (cSyAR)

Also menticided by leftists.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (FS4J7)

394 @386

I just see her like damaged goods, I guess. There's nothing behind her eyes.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:07 AM (AwPyG)

395 GoT takes a lot of history and puts in a blender.

Incest was common among many royal families in history.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 10:07 AM (ZHVt1)

396 You hornswogglin' galoot c#cks#cker, Ignoramus! Who asked you anyhow?! Rarruh!

Posted by: zombie calamity jane at September 05, 2021 10:07 AM (UHVv4)

397 Posted by: mnw at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (Cssks)

How could the Zulus possible fight without air support!/s

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:07 AM (ONvIw)

398 In 1881, the Zulus slaughtered a British battalion (850 men). The British were armed with breech-loading rifles, AND field artillery. The Zulus were armed with spears (assegais) largely, although they had a handful of firearms.

Posted by: mnw at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (Cssks)

Roarke's Drift?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:07 AM (FS4J7)

399 Those kids books are very real. The whole series is a whole bunch of little biographies for beginning readers. We have quite a few, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, elections, Mother Theresa, Helen Keller, Milton Hershey, etc. Lots of people or events kids might be curious about. But now that they run through the important people they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: Sassy at September 05, 2021 10:08 AM (xSICi)

400 I just see her like damaged goods, I guess. There's nothing behind her eyes.
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:07 AM (AwPyG)

I see her as a pain in the ass, taking her frustrations out on some mythical "evil conservatives".

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:09 AM (ONvIw)

401 392 As I have already mentioned in other threads probably many times because I am so proud of myself, I finally finished book 2, Words of Radiance by Brandon Sanderson. Reading his books is like watching a movie. Characters and settings are so well drawn, you visualize the scenes as you are reading. His alternate world is so creative and alien but holds together. There are even drawings of his flora and fauna that are fantastic.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:06 AM (Y+l9t)

Based on your rec, I am rereading the Way of Kings. I am almost at the end and I had forgotten what a fantastic story it is. I am getting much more out of it the second time around.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:10 AM (FS4J7)

402 I bailed after not making it through the first episode because of the 3 barnyard sex scenes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:04 AM (FS4J7)

Mmmmm, tell me more!

Posted by: Pasiphae at September 05, 2021 10:10 AM (7bRMQ)

403 Deadwood is on my list of all time favorites. The follow up movie, not so much.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:11 AM (Y+l9t)

404 I don't like the BBC'S Father Brown but there's an episode featuring an incestuous brother and sister.
They were portrayed as suitably creepy

Is incest somewhere in that LGBTQ spectrum?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:11 AM (cSyAR)

405 @399

It's almost funny, how shrill and unrelenting the leftists are.
I remember buying a deck of "famous women" cards for my kids, which showed a pic of the woman, and had her bio on the back. At the time, Thatcher was the first female prime minister of the UK, but she wasn't included. You know who was? Queen Latifah.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:11 AM (AwPyG)

406
Bleep - a limerick

I thought that Deadwood was groovy
But it's really not suited for juvies
If you censored out "c*cksucker"
As well as "mother f*cker"
The end result would be a silent movie

Posted by: Muldoon at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (m45I2)

407 Rorke's Drift?
-------------------------
No, Isandlwana the day before.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (UHVv4)

408 101 ... "I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so."

Mowing lawns in summer (rotary push mower), raking and burning leaves in autumn, and shoveling snow in winter. Plus helping my gramps with his 'projects' once he retired. There was still home work from school, sports, swimming and always lots of reading. Wish I still had that much energy.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (7EjX1)

409 398 Rorke's Drift was the opposite - ~120 British troops with no field artillery holding off ~4,000 Zulus, many of whom had just finished off the larger British force at Isandlwana a few miles off.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (M9SBl)

410 Never watched any of the GoT series. All the reviews I've ever read was that it was mix and match sadomasochistic medieval fantasies that circled around soft porn.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (Fs5vw)

411 Funny, I'm halfway through rewatching Zulu.

After knocking off 850 Brits and 400 locals at Isandlwana the Zulus went after an outpost at Rorke's Drift manned by 150. Against all odds, the Brits prevailed. Eleven VCs were awarded.

It's a great movie, and Michael Caine's first real role. The Cockney plays an upper crust British Major brilliantly.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 10:13 AM (ZHVt1)

412 sorry for going so far off topic here. I need to get back to reading regularly. I did start a book called Lee: The Last Years by Flood. It seemed interesting because so little has been written about the subject by historians. Most know the gist, but Lee didn't write memoirs like pretty much everyone else did. He kept moving forward in life, tried to set a good example, but didn't focus on the past. Of course he met with many old compadres over the years, but he put very little of his views in print. And he died only five years after the war at 62.

One final tidbit. Many look at Stonewall Jackson pictures. He was known as a stern professor, a man with a long beard who looked very old. But that man didn't make it out of his thirties.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:13 AM (X1Wj0)

413 "Despise Not Thy Enemy."
Posted by: mnw

In his novel Breakout at Stalingrad, Stalingrad survivor Heinrich Gerlach describes the Germans' incredulity that the Russians could even consider attacking them as they were obviously so superior.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 10:13 AM (d9FiS)

414 Man, you all are so fast. I wish I could be a moronette, but I get willowed every time. Anyways, is it wrong that I wish I could call myself Doctor Manyguns?

Posted by: Plum Duff at September 05, 2021 10:13 AM (dCxce)

415 Muse

Isandlwana. Roark's Drift occurred immediately after Isandlwana and was a much smaller fight.

About a year later, the Boers inflicted 4 sharp defeats on the British in the Transvaal, of which the most startling Boer victory was at Majuba. The British had field artillery. The Boers didn't even have uniforms.

"Despise Not Thy Enemy"

Posted by: mnw at September 05, 2021 10:14 AM (Cssks)

416 107 With a new "Dune" movie coming out this month I re read Frank Herbert's novel. I had forgotten a lot of the story of Muadeb. I hope they don't gut the story, and just make big budget CGI movie.
Posted by: Paladin at September 05, 2021 08:38 AM (tO3Z9)

Other than they changed the term Jihad to CRUSADE; made Kynes a woman; and Chani is used as (not sure of the right term here) the focus of why everything is happening.

The production values seem to be off the chart good.

Not to mention a strong cast of actors (save Zendaya...not a fan of her).

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at September 05, 2021 10:14 AM (BgMrQ)

417 Never watched any of the GoT series. All the reviews I've ever read was that it was mix and match sadomasochistic medieval fantasies that circled around soft porn.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (Fs5vw)

We never knew!!!

Posted by: The Lincoln Project at September 05, 2021 10:14 AM (7bRMQ)

418 I feel sorry for Milano, and any of the child actors or actresses who came up through the Disney/Nickelodeon
studios, where many were abused and passed around (and still are, if you believe the reports)
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:48 AM

Is that where she learned about the 6 dildo rule?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 05, 2021 10:15 AM (Irn0L)

419 One of the shittiest things about Milano is that she bravely withheld the name of her own "abuser", while attacking Trump over the Kav nomination. Even at the time of her abuse, she took no action against him and declined to call the cops. Sorry, but refusing someone's assistance in calling the police does not make you "all alone". She's an asshole.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:15 AM (ONvIw)

420 36 Please, please, PLEASE tell me those kids book about Che Guevera, Ru Paul, and Bono are meant to be a parody. They couldn't be real.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 08:13 AM (7EjX1)

Yes, they're real.

TBF, there are others in the series that aren't quite so outrageous:

https://tinyurl.com/rbt89tf8

It looks the whoever is in charge of arranging books on the shelves in that bookstore decided to take the opportunity to do a bit of preaching.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (FS4J7)

421 Milano says so many clearly imbecilic things and yet she gets back up off the mat and tries again.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (cSyAR)

422 The WOT diversity is accurate. Jordan started many of the core characters resembled Hindi, or se Asian ethnic types. Ignore the DKS covers.

Posted by: Dread0 at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (ZP4Ww)

423 Morning.

Linda Manyguns? How many guns, Linda? How many?!? You need to share, Linda! Hoarding guns is evidence of hierarchical structures! Share the guns, Linda Manyguns!

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (1Yy3c)

424 Best 1-2 movie Zulu Dawn then Zulu

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (2JoB8)

425 It's a great movie, and Michael Caine's first real role. The Cockney plays an upper crust British Major brilliantly.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 10:13 AM (ZHVt1)

that was a great film. I got in the habit of watching yt movie reactions. Sure some watch the modern sci fi and fantasy cartoons and such. But other than that, most reactions that get views are older films. The way things are going films such as Zulu and really almost everything that existed before will no longer be made. That wont stop people from watching these films, it is just sad that they will have to keep going back to the same well.

And Zulu was very respectful to both sides in that battle. Anyone who has not seen the film needs to rectify that quickly.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (X1Wj0)

426 I have no doubt she's been sexually abused by leftists.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 09:58 AM (cSyAR)

For three years we had her under contract, singing lessons, dancing lessons, acting lessons. I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. I was gonna make her a big star. And let me be even more frank, just to show you that I'm not a hard-hearted man, that it's not all dollars and cents. She was beautiful! She was young, she was innocent. She was the greatest piece of ass I've ever had, and I've had 'em all over the world.

Posted by: Jack Woltz, Horse Head Owner at September 05, 2021 10:18 AM (R/m4+)

427 Manyguns sounds like an Ian Fleming character

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:18 AM (AwPyG)

428 We need a Dr. TragicCanoeAccident for the gub thread.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 10:18 AM (PiwSw)

429 No doubt Manyguns great grandfather wouldn't approve of her views.

Posted by: Skip at September 05, 2021 10:18 AM (2JoB8)

430 It would be mildly amusing if her name was Miniguns. Small, cute, deadly.

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:18 AM (1Yy3c)

431 "Has anyone else experienced rubberized plastic coatings on products decaying into some type of sticky goo on their surface? What's up with that?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot"

The one that burns my butt is the way that anything with rubbery feet (laptop, calculator, toothpick holder with little feet) will dissolve into any varnished surface furniture.

It destroys both the feet and the finish...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 05, 2021 10:19 AM (ZSK0i)

432 430 It would be mildly amusing if her name was Miniguns. Small, cute, deadly.
Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:18 AM (1Yy3c)

AtC?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 10:19 AM (PiwSw)

433 421 Milano says so many clearly imbecilic things and yet she gets back up off the mat and tries again.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (cSyAR)

She's a definite product of our mental health system that treats abuse as something to dwell on forever and memorialize with "anniversary" therapy. One is never encouraged to get past it or focus their anger on the abuser.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:19 AM (ONvIw)

434 Deadwood is on my list of all time favorites. The follow up movie, not so much.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:11 AM (Y+l9t)

Agree with both statements!

Posted by: Doof at September 05, 2021 10:20 AM (mZUr4)

435
ive joined dr. manyguns in not capitalizing or punctuating sentences stuff like grammar and spelling are tools of white supremacy meant to keep womyn and bipoc oppressed I dont care what wipepo say

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 10:20 AM (/U27+)

436 "dr linda manyguns"

Who squaw is dis?

How brave, thinking she's pioneering sloppy spelling - sorry babe, texting beat you to it. Time to lay off the firewater.

Must be torture for her to even write her name, since every part of it was either taken from or imposed by the White Man...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 05, 2021 10:20 AM (LFq62)

437 409 398 Rorke's Drift was the opposite - ~120 British troops with no field artillery holding off ~4,000 Zulus, many of whom had just finished off the larger British force at Isandlwana a few miles off.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (M9SBl)

Thank you, it shows you how precious little I know.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:20 AM (FS4J7)

438 The name Manyguns reminds me of Michelle Obama's toned arms.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:21 AM (cSyAR)

439 Milano is an attention whore. Am I wrong?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 10:21 AM (ZHVt1)

440
Having just read a non-fiction work, "The Pueblo Revolt", by Robert Silverberg, I was reminded of what turned out to be one of his first works in science fiction, "Time of the Great Freeze". I read it as a "young adult" in the mid-60s.

The storyline deals with Earth having been gripped for many years (centuries?) in another Ice Age. Many major cities elected to establish themselves underneath the ice, with all its attendant requirements for self-containment, limited population, resources' conservation, and the like, including xenophobia.

Somehow -- I cannot remember -- a small group of New Yorkers get the idea that the Ice Age is coming to an end and they establish radio contact with like minded folks in cities outside (London?). Their thinking moves toward what will we do and how will we function as the ice sheets retreat? They are discovered and banished to the ice surface for their heretical thoughts. What adventures befell them after that I cannot recall, but I am interested in re-reading this.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 10:21 AM (+2sc/)

441 117 ... " I'm reading the Journal of Nicholas Creswell, a diary / travelogue by a young Englishman seeking his fortune in Colonial America from 1774 - 1777. He traveled first to the states, then to Barbados, and now he's just coming back from a canoe trip down the Ohio River. "

That is a great read and provides huge amounts of information about the period. If you like that kind of material, check out the Jas. Townsend and son site. They publish a good number of such journals and memoirs for a decent price. The Townsends videos on Youtube are also first class.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 10:21 AM (7EjX1)

442 Milano says so many clearly imbecilic things and yet she gets back up off the mat and tries again.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker

Heroes never quit, heh.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at September 05, 2021 10:22 AM (LFq62)

443 439 Milano is an attention whore. Am I wrong?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 10:21 AM (ZHVt1)

Nope

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:22 AM (ONvIw)

444 It would be mildly amusing if her name was Miniguns. Small, cute, deadly.
Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:18 AM (1Yy3c)

AtC?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 10:19 AM (PiwSw)

Oh crap. We should probably avoid putting them in the same room together.

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:23 AM (1Yy3c)

445 When an actor/actress is described as an activist in Wikipedia they are always leftwingers and thick as a brick.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (cSyAR)

446
I dont care what wipepo say
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Uncap your name, H7! Uncap your name!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (+2sc/)

447 made Kynes a woman

-
I fear for the West Side Story reboot.

I've just met a boy named Mario
And suddenly that name will never be the same to me
Mario, I've just kissed a boy named Mario
And suddenly I've found how wonderful a sound can be

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (d9FiS)

448 Bleep - a limerick

I thought that Deadwood was groovy
But it's really not suited for juvies
If you censored out "c*cksucker"
As well as "mother f*cker"
The end result would be a silent movie

Posted by: Muldoon at September 05, 2021 10:12 AM (m45I2)

heh. I will give it another try. The first time the first episode, Hell, the first scene really turned me off. If I thought the portrayal was accurate, there is no chance that would have happened. But everything deserves a second chance. For sure many love it.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (X1Wj0)

449 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (u82oZ)

450 That is a great read and provides huge amounts of information about the period. If you like that kind of material, check out the Jas. Townsend and son site. They publish a good number of such journals and memoirs for a decent price. The Townsends videos on Youtube are also first class.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 10:21 AM (7EjX1)

I think he presented this on a vid a couple of years ago.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (7bRMQ)

451 Milano strikes me as not very smart. Remember, she was the one with the knit mask.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:25 AM (Y+l9t)

452 anti-capitalism - a limerick

it's late in the thread, so i'm slumming
while stroking my chin and softly humming
the way my thinking runs
is that linda manyguns
just misappropriated ee cummings

Posted by: Muldoon at September 05, 2021 10:25 AM (m45I2)

453 @439

I doubt she'd doing it all on her own, but has handlers who put her in front of the cameras to give the crooked media a "messenger" for the coverage they want to provide.
I imagine the same is true for Meghan Markle, Meghan McCain, Chrissy Tiegen and a lot of others you see.

the main reason I say this, is because it costs a lot of money to get constant PR the way they do, and I don't think they are paying for it themselves.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:25 AM (AwPyG)

454 Speaking of poor grammar, which writer is it that doesn't use punctuation?

I think he wrote a book that got turned into a movie starring Viggo "Not That Carpathian" Mortensen.

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:26 AM (1Yy3c)

455 Someone has trouble with the shift key.
Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (MzKgG)

Dr. Manyguns is the pseudonym for a cockroach named Archy

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2021 10:26 AM (HG00O)

456
You can't hug your children with many guns!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 10:26 AM (+2sc/)

457 Some smartass on the Twatter replying Cookie Milano.

Jalapeno Ketchup
@HoopTrainerJess
Meh. I lost most of my dildos in a boating accident.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 10:26 AM (d9FiS)

458 Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (u82oZ)

Finger

Posted by: Miserable Sonovabitch Who Hasn't Had Coffee Yet at September 05, 2021 10:27 AM (1Yy3c)

459 the main reason I say this, is because it costs a lot of money to get constant PR the way they do, and I don't think they are paying for it themselves.
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:25 AM (AwPyG

And they're probably being compensated. By attacking others, but letting her alleged abuser off the hook, she demonstrates sheer political malintent.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:28 AM (ONvIw)

460 Was there a time when cars had dildo racks?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:28 AM (cSyAR)

461 Muldoon! Excellent point.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:28 AM (Y+l9t)

462 Mmm.
Manyguns looks like her hubby, after four years of putting up with her bullsh*t, dumped her for a grad student.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 05, 2021 10:28 AM (axyOa)

463 All you need to about Alysaa Milano is she has a couple kids under 10 and all the money she needs to be able to spend all the time and energy she wants giving them a happy childhood but she would rather spend all her time and energy being mad at the world and letting the hired help raise her children.
All us 29 year old's know how fast 18 years can go by.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 05, 2021 10:28 AM (4thlk)

464
Milano strikes me as not very smart. Remember, she was the one with the knit mask.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Not smart, huh? Then how did she get that cookie named after her?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 10:28 AM (+2sc/)

465
She's a definite product of our mental health system that treats abuse as something to dwell on forever and memorialize with "anniversary" therapy. One is never encouraged to get past it or focus their anger on the abuser.
Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:19 AM (ONvIw)

THIS. I know four people (men and women) that had great personalities destroyed by the "mental health experts". Never go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist. They'll fill you with anger, resentment, leftist bullshit, and drugs.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 05, 2021 10:29 AM (Fs5vw)

466 Who dis is Donna Reed, as that was what she looked like as the Librarian in the scene when Bedford Falls turns to Pottersville...

Posted by: Big JiLm at September 05, 2021 10:29 AM (7x2bd)

467 think he wrote a book that got turned into a movie starring Viggo "Not That Carpathian" Mortensen.

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:26 AM (1Yy3c)

Cormac Mccarthy? I didn't see The Road but I think that is who you are talking about. We have the McCarthy battles pretty regularly here. I haven't read him in a long time but I think the punctuation thing is a bit overblown. I do know it helps to have a thesaurus nearby. He loves to bring up archaic Spanish terms for geological features for example.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:30 AM (X1Wj0)

468 They did an incest story for "Call the Midwife" too.

The first couple seasons are great. Then the leftist indoctrination took over.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 05, 2021 10:30 AM (xopIz)

469 @463

Reminds me of how Cumberbatch and his wife give conflicting numbers on how many kids they have.

(It's rumored that theirs is a lavender marriage)

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:30 AM (AwPyG)

470 Not smart, huh? Then how did she get that cookie named after her?

******

Snickerdoodle?

Posted by: Muldoon at September 05, 2021 10:31 AM (m45I2)

471 This story about the trapped "American" in 'Stan just shows how stupid and incompetent modern America is.

Nasria, all American girl traveled to 'Stan in June to visit and get married. So...perhaps not quite so all American.

Meanwhile the Paste Eater was busy getting his ass kicked while she was "visiting". Because, remember this is a competent administration that would obviously warn Americans not to go on vacation in a war zone while losing said war.

Anyway, Paste Eater has his glorious VICTORY in 'Stan and then his glorious retreat. Which was glorious because he got everyone out, except...he didn't. So now poor Nasria can't bring her whole family back as refugees. Because that's a normal thing you do when you gloriously retreat - bring a whole bunch of new friends home!

Posted by: 18-1 at September 05, 2021 10:31 AM (DpkTQ)

472 This flies in a tunnel. Must be a bat.

https://bit.ly/3jLiJzp

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 10:31 AM (d9FiS)

473 Reminds me of how Cumberbatch and his wife give conflicting numbers on how many kids they have.

(It's rumored that theirs is a lavender marriage)

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:30 AM (AwPyG)

So their numbers are off by 10% your're saying?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 10:32 AM (7bRMQ)

474 "I bet everyone in here today had a money making job at 13 or so."
--------

Worked at my dad's hardware store. He paid me in room and board.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 05, 2021 10:32 AM (bPH26)

475
Never go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist. They'll fill you with anger, resentment, leftist bullshit, and drugs.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 05, 2021 10:29 AM (Fs5vw)

__________

I suffered from depression for some years. Neither therapy nor medication helped. After I got married, I was too busy and exhausted to be depressed. Problem solved.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 10:32 AM (/U27+)

476 So their numbers are off by 10% your're saying?

For the Big Guy. Let me get some flonase to get ready!

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 05, 2021 10:32 AM (DpkTQ)

477 People in the PR business have calculated that it would cost over 1 million a month to have the constant puff piece coverage Harry and Meghan have in the Daily Mail, alone. Who's paying for that? Not them, I bet.

And it's rumored that as part of her divorce settlement, Katie Holmes got an expensive PR package, which is why she is constantly in the tabloids, even though she hasn't had any work in awhile.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:34 AM (AwPyG)

478 Artemis, I had to look up lavender marriage. Yesterday I had to look up Nonce. It is amazing how erudite the horde is.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:34 AM (Y+l9t)

479 Lavender marriages? First it was Hugh Jackman, now it's Cumberbatch.

Next you'll be telling me it's Tom Cruise ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 10:34 AM (ZHVt1)

480 CORMAC MCCARTHY!

That's the one! Thank you, Meestah Quint!

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:34 AM (1Yy3c)

481 Never started GoT, or Wheel of Time, or a bunch of other series. One of these years I'll get around to The Gormenghast Trilogy and Dance to the Music of Time, but at this point if I see that something is the start of a series I tend to stay clear. Sometimes I find myself looking at books and series, and bringing to mind something William Goldman wrote that George Roy Hill said: "If you can't tell your story in an hour and forty minutes, you'd better be David Lean." Hill was talking movies, but maybe there should be a similar notion for books.

That said, Martin wrote some pretty good short fiction, and I recall enjoying The Armageddon Rag.

And Silverberg? Picked up the Majipoor books, but have not yet read them. Maybe one of these weeks. But novels like Dying Inside, The Book of Skulls, The Second Trip? And jeez, all the terrific short fiction? Silverberg is a wonder, not to be missed.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at September 05, 2021 10:35 AM (JzDjf)

482 I fear for the West Side Story reboot.

Oh, I will be monumentally surprised if it doesn't suck bilge water.

What was originally a call for cultural and racial tolerance and understanding on both sides of the divide, will become -

a screed on white supremacy, horrible wypipo, and victimization. Ah! and half of the songs will be rap, except for the su-u-u-p-p-e-e-r-r-r s-s-s-l-l-o-o-o-w version of "A Place for Us".

Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 10:36 AM (5NkmN)

483 McCarthy's book No Country for Old Men read like a screen play. And that movie, almost word for word from the book, won best picture.

His great book, "All the Pretty Horses" was one of the worst film adaptions ever made. He magnum opus, "Blood Meridien" has been optioned many times, but everyone pretty much realizes it is basically unfilmable. The Crossing was probably even better as literature, another book that is unfilmable if they want to be true to the book.

I never got into the book, "The Road" though it was critically acclaimed. The movie went down like a lead balloon from what I hear.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:37 AM (X1Wj0)

484 @481

I'm the opposite, I guess. If I'm looking for a new author to read, I look for a series so I won't be sad that it was a one-off

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:37 AM (AwPyG)

485 I suffered from depression for some years. Neither therapy nor medication helped. After I got married, I was too busy and exhausted to be depressed. Problem solved.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 10:32 AM (/U27+)

I like it, the "distraction technique" amplified and exemplified.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:37 AM (ONvIw)

486 "The Road" is a Christian allegory.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 10:38 AM (ZHVt1)

487 After I got married, I was too busy and exhausted to be depressed. Problem solved.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 10:32 AM (/U27+)

Your old lady must keep a Honey Do List a mile long!

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:38 AM (1Yy3c)

488 @479

It seems like the hard part would be finding a marriage that wasn't, in Hollywood past or present.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:39 AM (AwPyG)

489 GoT committed the one great sin of series - an absolute garbage turd pile of a failed finally and last season, so that -

all veiwers felt that they had totally wasted their time over a period of years.

Also, they violated their own premise and characters to give us that white, dried-out, crumbling dog turd of an ending.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 10:39 AM (5NkmN)

490 ugh.

finally = finale

Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 10:40 AM (5NkmN)

491 Worked at my dad's hardware store. He paid me in room and board.
----------------------------
And the beatings were your Christmas bonus??

We used to dream about Christmas beatings for our bonus. Instead dad would slit our throats while reciting Vogon poetry to the tune of the "Twelve Days of Christmas" but you tell that to kids nowadays and they don't believe you!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 10:41 AM (UHVv4)

492 Current bedtime read is Rendell, 'An Unkindness of Ravens', which is one of her Inspector Wexford series. Just entertaining reading, which requires no justification. She is a pretty good writer.

The current non-fiction, meaningful read is, 'A History of engineering and science in the Bell System: National Service in War and Peace (1925 - 1975) '. I have been at this for some while, it is quite a tome, and a remarkable compilation of the achievements of the company. Staggering, really. Those who have an interest in WWII technical developments would find it very interesting, if perhaps overwhelming. An excellent follow-on to 'The Invention That Changed the World: How a Small Group of Radar Pioneers Won the Second World War and Launched a Technical Revolution'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (bk3Sg)

493 Blood Meridien stands alone as his magnum opus for good or ill. I meant to say The Crossing was probably a more complex novel than All the Pretty Horses. The entire Border Trilogy was great. The last one was not quite as good as the fist two in my opinion but no big deal there.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (X1Wj0)

494 Queing up No Country For Old Men. Excellent movie. Also going to watch The Mule again.

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (Fs5vw)

495 @489

Remember that Martin never finished the next book, and so the TV writers had to make do.

You kind of have to admire him; he'd get a zillion dollars if he'd just FINISH THE BOOK and he's like, "um--maybe later."

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (AwPyG)

496 Does anyone here remember the Allen Drury cold war political novels? I feel they are as true today as they were 60 years ago. Advise and Consent, Preserve and Protect, etc.

Posted by: Happy at September 05, 2021 09:55 AM (uOkeC)

I read them all, although by the time he got to the split narrative "Promise of Joy" and "Come Nineveh, Come Tyre" I think he had gotten a little carried away with his own enthusiasms.

My favorite, by far, was "Advise and Consent", the first. Which Otto Preminger made into a first-class movie with a top-notch cast. I re-watch the movie more often than I re-read the book. Charles Laughton as the crafty senior senator from South Carolina is a hoot.

Posted by: HTL at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (7SBMg)

497 I had to look Lavender Marriage up. What type of sexual orientation is stigmatized these days?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 05, 2021 10:43 AM (cSyAR)

498 That's the one! Thank you, Meestah Quint!

Posted by: Robert - Iron Maiden, Senjutsu, OUT NOW!!!! at September 05, 2021 10:34 AM (1Yy3c)

anytime. My wheelhouse is small, but that was a fast ball down the middle.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:43 AM (X1Wj0)

499 I am so sorry to hear L. Niel Smith has passed away, he was my first introduction to Libertarianism.
His North American Confederacy books have the premise that without government sucking away everyone's profits, we could reach the stars.

What I discovered later is that all his books are a review and reflection of Murray Rothbard's philosophy, yet Smith NEVER refers to Rothbard (even in his non-NAC books) but do refer to Lysander Spooner and Benjamin Tucker, who are now more identified with non-socialist anarchism.

My favorite book in the series is Tom Paine Maru, which is exploration of the interstellar phase of the NAC through the eyes of Whitey O'Thraight, who was the only other survivor of an interstellar exploration by a cut-off colony rescued by a NAC private venture.
It is also a bit of a Gulliver's Travels, looking at various other failed models of statism

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2021 10:44 AM (HG00O)

500 I've just started volume one of Victor Klemperer's diaries. First vol. covers 1933-1941, the second vol. goes to the end of the war. They give a day-by-day account of how conditions worsened for Jews living in Hitler's Germany. Klemperer was a Christian convert, but a Jew nevertheless by the Nazi standards. He was married to a non-Jew, so managed to escape deportation to the camps, but he was dismissed from his job as a university professor, and had to endure all the restrictions and deprivations that were inflicted on Jews.

I've just started, and am only into the beginning of 1934 - he still has his job, although he's losing all sorts of perks and status, and the student body is becoming very anti-Jewish, so has has hardly any students at his classes. What's stunning is that he's constantly saying this is unendurable, he and his wife are at the end of their tether, and yet the reader knows how much worse it's going to get.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 05, 2021 10:44 AM (ywxOG)

501 I had to look Lavender Marriage up. What type of sexual orientation is stigmatized these days?

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 05, 2021 10:43 AM (cSyAR)

Pffft. Monogamous heterosexual of course....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at September 05, 2021 10:44 AM (7bRMQ)

502 495 @489

Remember that Martin never finished the next book, and so the TV writers had to make do.

You kind of have to admire him; he'd get a zillion dollars if he'd just FINISH THE BOOK and he's like, "um--maybe later."
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (AwPyG)

Well, yeah. The is about as sweet a scam that a writer could run against Hollywood.

I guess that makes him a hero!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 10:45 AM (5NkmN)

503 @496

Charles Laughton is perfect in Witness for the Prosecution.

Another good old movie, if anyone's looking for one. Agatha Christie at her finest.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:45 AM (AwPyG)

504 Remember that Martin never finished the next book, and so the TV writers had to make do.

You kind of have to admire him; he'd get a zillion dollars if he'd just FINISH THE BOOK and he's like, "um--maybe later."
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (AwPyG)

I'm of the opinion he really had run out of ideas, and didn't have a clue how to end the damn thing... so he turned that over to trite, unimaginative teevee writers.

I don't admire him, a more talented writer WOULD have been able to finish. Or a less lazy one.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 05, 2021 10:45 AM (/ikTA)

505 When an actor/actress is described as an activist in Wikipedia they are always leftwingers and thick as a brick.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at September 05, 2021 10:24 AM (cSyAR)

true. A conservative would be called divisive and controversial at best.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:46 AM (X1Wj0)

506 He magnum opus, "Blood Meridien" has been optioned many times, but everyone pretty much realizes it is basically unfilmable.

Terry Gilliam should try it and give it the Don Quixote treatment. I'd watch it but probably precious few others.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

507 Never go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist. They'll fill you with anger, resentment, leftist bullshit, and drugs.
Posted by: Justsayin' at September 05, 2021 10:29 AM (Fs5vw)

I disagree

It took me 3-4 tries, but I finally found a mental health professional who really helped me. No drugs. No progressive victimhood bullshit. He was really wonderful and helped me sort through and release a lot of bad stuff.

Keep trying.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 10:48 AM (U2p+3)

508 Yes, the ending of GoT was horrible, but the worst series finale of all time is Black Sails. The captain, the hero of the story, the manly man tough guy? He was gay all along! Hahahaha!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 05, 2021 10:48 AM (kTF2Z)

509 @504

Martin is massively overweight, and although he's married, when I went to listen to him speak, he had a couple of pretty young assistants who wore steampunk gothic outfits.

the man is living the dream.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:48 AM (AwPyG)

510 I fear for the West Side Story reboot.
Oh, I will be monumentally surprised if it doesn't suck bilge water.

What was originally a call for cultural and racial tolerance and understanding on both sides of the divide, will become -
screed on white supremacy, horrible wypipo, and victimization. Ah! and half of the songs will be rap, except for the su-u-u-p-p-e-e-r-r-r s-s-s-l-l-o-o-o-w version of "A Place for Us".
Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 10:36 AM (5NkmN)

I love that movie. Yes, it's a bit dated and Jerome Robbins, who directed the dance sequences was a flamer, ensured that there are strong homosexual overtones, but it's a classic

And when I last saw it on TCM, that annoying racist POS Anna Devare Smith introduced it and she explained how much she loved it because it featured "darker" people like her -- she is very light skinned-- she could "root" for, thus proving that she totally MISSED the point of the movie.
Mankiewicz almost seemed almost apologetic that Natalie Wood, Russian-American, played the female Latina lead---and noted sadly that she had to wear make-up to darken her skin. Well so did Rita Moreno, arguably even lighter than Wood.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 05, 2021 10:49 AM (mR6Gs)

511 I don't admire him, a more talented writer WOULD have been able to finish. Or a less lazy one.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 05, 2021 10:45 AM (/ikTA)

I never watched that series. I caught a glimpse of some dragon thingee and decided it was bullshit on cocaine.

A sly writer put the ending in the hands of hacks to avoid culpability. The end was going to be a let down for fans, no matter how it ended, so now it's not his fault.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:49 AM (ONvIw)

512 @508

Whatever you do, don't venture into any modern day comic books.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:49 AM (AwPyG)

513
Does anyone here remember the Allen Drury cold war political novels? I feel they are as true today as they were 60 years ago. Advise and Consent, Preserve and Protect, etc.

Posted by: Happy at September 05, 2021 09:55 AM (uOkeC)

__________

Got them all, both dead tree and e-book. I feel we're in Come Ninevah, Come Tyre right now, with Shufflin' Joe as Ted Jason.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 10:50 AM (/U27+)

514 Also, they violated their own premise and characters to give us that white, dried-out, crumbling dog turd of an ending.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 05, 2021 10:39 AM (5NkmN)

It didn't start/end with the last season. The end of the last book had Jon laying in a pool of his own blood, Stannis and his army freezing to death in the winter that finally came, and Dani on her own version of a walkabout, on the back of a dragon.

So the show had Jon come back to life (super easy, barely an inconvenience), Dani come on back and turn into a badass instead of a confused little girl (SEBAI), and worst of all, Stannis turned into a daughter killing monster, for.... reasons, I guess.

When they did that to Stannis, they betrayed everything that led up to that point.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 05, 2021 10:51 AM (/ikTA)

515 Remember that Martin never finished the next book, and so the TV writers had to make do.

You kind of have to admire him; he'd get a zillion dollars if he'd just FINISH THE BOOK and he's like, "um--maybe later."
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:42 AM (AwPyG)

Well, he's old, and probably already has far more money than he can spend in the time he's got left. Should have finished the series, though. Leaving it unfinished increases the chance it'll vanish from public consciousness in another generation. And copyright restrictions will probably eliminate any attempts by later writers to craft an ending.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 05, 2021 10:51 AM (ywxOG)

516 "but the worst series finale of all time is Black Sails. "

Hold my beer!

Posted by: Dexter at September 05, 2021 10:51 AM (ZHVt1)

517
It took me 3-4 tries, but I finally found a mental health professional who really helped me. No drugs. No progressive victimhood bullshit. He was really wonderful and helped me sort through and release a lot of bad stuff.

Keep trying.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 10:48 AM (U2p+3)

Yes. Not everyone sucks. Was this by any chance an older person, or a foreign born person with no attachment to the politicization of victimhood?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:51 AM (ONvIw)

518 My new condo has a book club that meets once a month. In the past I've avoided such things as the books are usually best selling pap or woke fiction.
The book is Eternal by Lisa Scottoline. It does look interesting but I'm worried it is a book that has some kind of moral lesson and if so, don't want to bother.
Als, they have a very formal structure to the meetings with a leader. Is this common? Has anyone read or heard of this book?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 05, 2021 10:51 AM (Y+l9t)

519 512 @508

Whatever you do, don't venture into any modern day comic books.
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:49 AM (AwPyG)

https://www.arkhaven.com/

Here is OK

Posted by: Fool Otto at September 05, 2021 10:52 AM (DB16e)

520 I've just started volume one of Victor Klemperer's diaries. First vol. covers 1933-1941, the second vol. goes to the end of the war. They give a day-by-day account of how conditions worsened for Jews living in Hitler's Germany. Klemperer was a Christian convert, but a Jew nevertheless by the Nazi standards. He was married to a non-Jew, so managed to escape deportation to the camps, but he was dismissed from his job as a university professor, and had to endure all the restrictions and deprivations that were inflicted on Jews.

The recent two volume Hitler biography by Ullrich Volker relies heavily on Klemperer's diaries as source material.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 05, 2021 10:52 AM (mR6Gs)

521 I think Scottoline writes good thrillers, although they are a little dark.

I think this one is a historical, though, which is new for her.

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:53 AM (AwPyG)

522 I think I've mentioned come nineveh more than a few times, the left elects a lefty half latino ed jason and he surrenders to the Soviets, sound familiar, this was the alt verse, in another orrin knox becomes president and sanity prevails,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at September 05, 2021 10:53 AM (hMlTh)

523 Mike Hammer

The Invention That Changed the World: How a Small Group of Radar Pioneers Won the Second World War and Launched a Technical Revolution is an excellent book.

It is foundational in understanding a lot of technology that underpins today. And well written as well.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 05, 2021 10:53 AM (u82oZ)

524 CN,
And older gentleman. He retired just as I was finishing my sessions with him. I think I saw him 6-7x in a three month period. He's not foreign and funny enough, he was my patient after he retired!

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 10:54 AM (U2p+3)

525 That is a great read and provides huge amounts of information about the period. If you like that kind of material, check out the Jas. Townsend and son site. They publish a good number of such journals and memoirs for a decent price. The Townsends videos on Youtube are also first class.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 10:21 AM (7EjX1)

Do you have a link to their site?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:54 AM (FS4J7)

526 I don't admire him, a more talented writer WOULD have been able to finish. Or a less lazy one.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 05, 2021 10:45 AM (/ikTA)

I never watched that series. I caught a glimpse of some dragon thingee and decided it was bullshit on cocaine.

A sly writer put the ending in the hands of hacks to avoid culpability. The end was going to be a let down for fans, no matter how it ended, so now it's not his fault.
Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:49 AM (ONvIw)

Exactly. Write a saga with too many characters, with all sorts of unresolved drama. Write yourself into a corner, and then let everyone else take the blame for the trashheap of a disaster of a finish.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 05, 2021 10:54 AM (/ikTA)

527
Well, he's old, and probably already has far more money than he can spend in the time he's got left. Should have finished the series, though. Leaving it unfinished increases the chance it'll vanish from public consciousness in another generation. And copyright restrictions will probably eliminate any attempts by later writers to craft an ending.
Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 05, 2021 10:51 AM (ywxOG)

I'm curious about how that works. Someone else took over The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo series after Stieg Larsson died. How does someone get to do that.

Posted by: Northernlurkerish at September 05, 2021 10:55 AM (cSyAR)

528 @527

The estate has the rights, and rights are always held by a person, who calls the shots. (which is why your health directives are only as good as the person who is willing to go along with them)

It was a big lawsuit, because Larsson had a longtime live in girlfriend he never married, and she was frozen out by the relatives

Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

529 Well, he's old, and probably already has far more money than he can spend in the time he's got left. Should have finished the series, though.

How you seen recent photos of Martin? He looks like he spends all of his time in all-you-can-eat buffets.

Leaving it unfinished increases the chance it'll vanish from public consciousness in another generation.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at September 05, 2021 10:51 AM (ywxOG)

Failing to see the downside here.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:57 AM (FS4J7)

530 Been reading SF trash and blasting the plot holes for fun.

Steven Golden's Getaway World: Family d'Alembert Series, #4.

That's all I got.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 05, 2021 10:58 AM (u82oZ)

531 The Invention That Changed the World: How a Small Group of Radar Pioneers Won the Second World War and Launched a Technical Revolution is an excellent book.

It is foundational in understanding a lot of technology that underpins today. And well written as well.

Concur.

Posted by: pep at September 05, 2021 10:58 AM (ZsR3z)

532 Someone has trouble with the shift key.
Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (MzKgG)

Prolly knows how to set a wagon on fire, though.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 05, 2021 10:58 AM (bNb8V)

533 Have a great day, everyone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (u82oZ)

534 I suffered from depression for some years. Neither therapy nor medication helped. After I got married, I was too busy and exhausted to be depressed. Problem solved.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 10:32 AM (/U27+)

I like it, the "distraction technique" amplified and exemplified.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:37 AM (ONvIw)

for some reason this reminds me of the time they asked Morgan Freeman how to solve the racism problem in this country. He said "stop talking about it all the time" (a paraphrase). Someone said something very similar recently and it went viral.

I think some problems get worse when we try to fix them and focus on them all the time. Maybe it is best to move on to other things.*

*I don't think I just solved racism. It was a just an example of how maybe focusing on a problem all the time is not the best way to fix it.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (X1Wj0)

535 524 CN,
And older gentleman. He retired just as I was finishing my sessions with him. I think I saw him 6-7x in a three month period. He's not foreign and funny enough, he was my patient after he retired!

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 10:54 AM (U2p+3)

Thanks for the info, and I'm glad you could help him. I'm not sure where the notion of allowing bad things to control your life forever came from (probably the universities), but I always thought the idea was talk about it, figure out what parts of your life are affected by it, and find a better way. The Milano way seems to be very destructive: let your abuser off the hook, but make the abuse the center of your life to the point of ruining others. I never reacted favorably to staff who referred to a patient as " ruined for life". I had them kicked off the case whenever possible.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (ONvIw)

536 Well, no church for me today. Mrs. Muse has had a persistent scratchy throat and headache, so, due to covid concerns, we're going to be isolating today.

It probably isn't covid, but we don't mask at church, so we're taking no chances.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (FS4J7)

537 Have a great day, everyone.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (u82oZ)

U2 Salty!

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 11:00 AM (X1Wj0)

538 Someone has trouble with the shift key.
Posted by: huerfano at September 05, 2021 08:06 AM (MzKgG)

Prolly knows how to set a wagon on fire, though.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 05, 2021 10:58 AM (bNb8V)

And capitalizes the word "Firewater."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 05, 2021 11:00 AM (/ikTA)

539
did libraries always let in homeless who smell aweful and like piss? or is that something that started in the 1980s?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 05, 2021 11:00 AM (bTQ72)

540 I always assumed George RRRRRR Martin wrote "Pirates of the Caribbean"

Posted by: Muldoon at September 05, 2021 11:00 AM (m45I2)

541 404 ... " I don't like the BBC'S Father Brown but there's an episode featuring an incestuous brother and sister.
They were portrayed as suitably creepy"

I don't mind the BBC series for casual viewing. (Good to fall asleep to.) And Mark Williams' Father Brown is the best part of the show. The original stories by Chesterton are MUCH better. But I'm so tired of every damn Brit series bringing in, and accepting of course, some current sexual matter that never would have occurred to the creator of the stories. If they are going to do a period show, then stick to the original characters and mores.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 11:01 AM (7EjX1)

542 Posted by: Plum Duff at September 05, 2021 10:13 AM (dCxce)

Do you have more than one gun? Are you smarter than Jill Biden? Then there's no problem with that nic.

Also, if you're female and post here you are already an 'Ette. After all, willow is a beloved 'ette herself.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at September 05, 2021 11:01 AM (1lKRm)

543
I had some correspondence with Drury's nephew a few years ago. Drury learned that in Hollywood, authors are on the very bottom of the pecking order. Working with a prick like Otto Preminger likely didn't help. As it was, despite many offers, Drury refused to sell the rights to any other of his novels.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 11:01 AM (/U27+)

544 for some reason this reminds me of the time they asked Morgan Freeman how to solve the racism problem in this country. He said "stop talking about it all the time" (a paraphrase). Someone said something very similar recently and it went viral.

I think some problems get worse when we try to fix them and focus on them all the time. Maybe it is best to move on to other things.*

Televisions are a blight on humanity

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 11:02 AM (y7DUB)

545 Well, no church for me today. Mrs. Muse has had a persistent scratchy throat and headache, so, due to covid concerns, we're going to be isolating today.

It probably isn't covid, but we don't mask at church, so we're taking no chances.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (FS4J7)

I hope she is well and wish you both the best. My church does mask and that is just the start of it. I am in a period of discernment. Honestly I am done with it but facing up to that fact and doing something about it has been difficult. It sucks because i have been a member longer than 90 percent of them. In the end, it was a take over.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 11:02 AM (X1Wj0)

546 "How a Small Group of Radar Pioneers Won the Second World War"

The anti-U Boat Battle of the Atlantic was a near-run affair. You can see this by graphing U-boats sunk vs. Allied tonnage sunk.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 11:03 AM (ZHVt1)

547 I went to check out the "Who Was...?" series and they aren't ALL bad:

https://tinyurl.com/rbt89tf8

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at September 05, 2021 08:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

Well, some of the subjects of these mini-bios were worthy people, but it all depends upon what spin the author puts on it, doesn't it?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 05, 2021 11:03 AM (bNb8V)

548
Nood, by the way.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 11:04 AM (/U27+)

549 It took me 3-4 tries, but I finally found a mental health professional who really helped me. No drugs. No progressive victimhood bullshit. He was really wonderful and helped me sort through and release a lot of bad stuff.

Keep trying.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 10:48 AM (U2p+3)

Good for you, I'm glad you found help. But I thought psychiatry was pretty much all pharmacological these days.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 11:05 AM (FS4J7)

550 Race relations were on an improving trajectory. FFS, Obama needed a lot of white votes to win.

Since then, not so good. It's manufactured outrage. When Biden said "they're going to put you in chains" he was projecting.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 11:05 AM (ZHVt1)

551 Have a great day, everyone.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (u82oZ)

Finger

Posted by: Miserable Sonovabitch On Only His Second Cup Of Coffee at September 05, 2021 11:05 AM (1Yy3c)

552
It is foundational in understanding a lot of technology that underpins today. And well written as well.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Yes. Moreover it provides, almost coincidentally, biographies of the physicists. I suspect that you would enjoy the Bell Systems book, if you can find it. It deals to a large degree with implementation of the developments in 'Invention That Changed the World'. It is a fascinating book, written from inside the system, rather than by an outside observer, thus, lots of detail.

Be aware that the Bell System history is published in three volumes, this being the 2nd.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc at September 05, 2021 11:05 AM (GBHAb)

553 *I don't think I just solved racism. It was a just an example of how maybe focusing on a problem all the time is not the best way to fix it.
Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (X1Wj0)

Constant rehashing of problems and stirring up anger against others, while naming yourself defeated and helpless and not responsible for your actions is never a way to improve your life.

In the case of racism, the idea seems to be that the things that happened before they were born, and even before their grandparents were born has rendered them incapable and in need of interventions. It's wrong and exploitative.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 11:06 AM (ONvIw)

554 CN,
The most helpful thing he got me to understand was...

Just because I no longer allowed certain things or people to hurt me doesn't mean I condone what they did or what happened. I didn't have to be angry and hurt all the time. It's ok to let things go. Doesn't make the past ok, but it also allowed me to get on with my life.

I'm probably not saying that very well.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 11:07 AM (U2p+3)

555
Doesn't make the past ok, but it also allowed me to get on with my life.

I'm probably not saying that very well.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 11:07 AM (U2p+3)

_________

Most of my life is spent forgetting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 11:09 AM (/U27+)

556 525 ... Good morning OM and thanks for another wonderful book thread.

The link for the Townsend site is
www dot townsends dot us

They offer a lot of items for reenactors and folks who like to have period items in their home. The vast majority is made in the USA, such as the redware and other ceramics/pottery, clothing, games camping, etc.

Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 11:11 AM (7EjX1)

557 for some reason this reminds me of the time they asked Morgan Freeman how to solve the racism problem in this country. He said "stop talking about it all the time" (a paraphrase). Someone said something very similar recently and it went viral.

Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:59 AM (X1Wj0)

I think this is in his interview with that dumb a-ahole Don Lemon. Lemon kept trying to get Freeman to complain about 'systemic racism' and Freeman will have none of it.

I think it's on YouTube.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 11:12 AM (FS4J7)

558 But I thought psychiatry was pretty much all pharmacological these days.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 11:05 AM (FS4J7)

The insurance reviewers focus overwhelmingly on medication, even when not warranted. It can be difficult to fight them, especially in an inpatient setting. They would rather contract out the talking part to social workers and counselors who get a much lower rate.

Medication is the answer for things like Bipolar and Schizophrenia (no talk will make a manic not be manic, or stop active hallucinations, sorry). Medication cannot help change circumstances in a person's life if that's the root of the anxiety or depression. Sometimes the key is finding the circumstance. Not everyone will tell you.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 11:13 AM (ONvIw)

559 Posted by: JTB at September 05, 2021 11:11 AM (7EjX1)

Thank you.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 11:13 AM (FS4J7)

560 I guess I don't really care if Linda Manyguns uses capitals or not. I will have forgotten about her existence by the time I hit post.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at September 05, 2021 08:30 AM (cSyAR)

Third-rate teacher at a third-rate "university". Mount Royal University is just a jumped-up community college.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 05, 2021 11:13 AM (5yd79)

561 543
I had some correspondence with Drury's nephew a few years ago. Drury learned that in Hollywood, authors are on the very bottom of the pecking order. Working with a prick like Otto Preminger likely didn't help. As it was, despite many offers, Drury refused to sell the rights to any other of his novels.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 05, 2021 11:01 AM (/U27+)

I'm quoting Rita Mae Brown from memory (may not be entirely accurate): "In the publishing industry, the writer is a god; in theater, the writer is king; in film and television, the writer is the hired help."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

562
The best part of Game Of Thrones is that it gave The Drinker that clip of Tyrion vomiting on the carpet.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 05, 2021 11:13 AM (gbfHZ)

563 I'm probably not saying that very well.
Posted by: nurse ratched at September 05, 2021 11:07 AM (U2p+3)

It was perfect!

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 11:14 AM (ONvIw)

564 If you're white and you feel guilty for racial stereotyping, just call Dr. Farrakhan and beg for forgiveness for $5.95 a minute.
1-900-Y-T-Guilt.

Posted by: Dr. Louis Farrakhan at September 05, 2021 11:15 AM (R/m4+)

565 I can see it now: In the final scene, Callahan is wounded, and his .44 is lying *just* out of reach. Hackman's character, who eschews gun toting, rolls over and grabs the .44, and drills the bad guy just in time.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at September 05, 2021 09:14 AM (7Fj9P)

Their personalities are so incredibly different, it would have required a vicious fist fight between them in an alley culminating in staggering upright, brushing themselves off, and going for coffee.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2021 11:16 AM (HG00O)

566 Since then, not so good. It's manufactured outrage. When Biden said "they're going to put you in chains" he was projecting.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 05, 2021 11:05 AM (ZHVt1)

When Biden said "they're going to put you in chains" he was deliberately fomenting racial hatred.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 11:17 AM (FS4J7)

567 Great thread, OM. Again I am tempted to go out and spend a lot on more books. And thanks for the Ginger Pye, mention.

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 11:22 AM (ONvIw)

568 When Biden said "they're going to put you in chains" he was deliberately fomenting racial hatred.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 11:17 AM (FS4J7)

To which the GOP didn't say a fucking thing. This is what purports to represent you, suckers.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 11:26 AM (y7DUB)

569 I've just started volume one of Victor Klemperer's diaries.

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I've been reading Ensnared In the Wolf's Lair by Ann Bausum about punitive action taken against the families and children of Valkyrie conspirators and suspected conspirators. It begins with a quote from Victor Klemperer.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 11:28 AM (d9FiS)

570 I tend to not capitalize because my shift key is too close to "caps lock" and I am constantly goofing it up so that I sound like B. Roethlisberger
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 09:10 AM (AwPyG)

I have been known to pry the caps lock (and the damfool "windows" key) out of my keyboard to reduce my mis-strikes.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 05, 2021 11:30 AM (6+Jyr)

571
Please, please, PLEASE tell me those kids book about Che Guevera, Ru Paul, and Bono are meant to be a parody. They couldn't be real.
Posted by: JTB

Put out there by Penguin Books, judging by the spines of the others in the picture.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 11:31 AM (+2sc/)

572 Straighten up and fly right!

- Anonosaurus Wrecks, Psychotherapist

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 05, 2021 11:32 AM (d9FiS)

573 Yes, on my dad's very old flip-phone that I'm waiting to dispose of properly at the maker's retail outlet when the hysteria has, I hope, subsided.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 05, 2021 09:15 AM (UHVv4)

Dispose of it "properly"? What are you, some kind of Communist? Take it out to the woods, tape it to a tree, and shoot it full of holes. Or toss it in a fire. The lithium battery might make a great kaboom, but, sadly, most likely not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 05, 2021 11:35 AM (6+Jyr)

574
Chippewa and Ojibway?
Posted by: CN

They are one and the same -- one is the French rendering of the other, but I forget which was which. It could be the case the either name is used in an official name for a reservation.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 05, 2021 11:35 AM (+2sc/)

575 And Zulu was very respectful to both sides in that battle. Anyone who has not seen the film needs to rectify that quickly.
Posted by: Quint at September 05, 2021 10:17 AM (X1Wj0)

Or, if you want to read it, you can pick up Dies the Fire by S. M Stirling, who wrote it scene by scene changing only the names and the locale.

Apparently that is not stealing, it is an "hommage"

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2021 11:50 AM (HG00O)

576 567 Great thread, OM. Again I am tempted to go out and spend a lot on more books. And thanks for the Ginger Pye, mention.
Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 11:22 AM (ONvIw)

Thank you, I'm sorry we missed Estes' books when our kids were growing up, they all look like fun reads and are precisely the sort of books we would've liked to have for them.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at September 05, 2021 11:54 AM (FS4J7)

577 Terry Gilliam should try it and give it the Don Quixote treatment. I'd watch it but probably precious few others.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at September 05, 2021 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

You mean take 30 years to finish it?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2021 11:59 AM (HG00O)

578
the man is living the dream.
Posted by: artemis at September 05, 2021 10:48 AM (AwPyG)

His dream is to be Baron Harkonen?

Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2021 12:00 PM (HG00O)

579 His dream is to be Baron Harkonen?
Posted by: Kindltot at September 05, 2021 12:00 PM (HG00O)

Jabba the Hutt

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 05, 2021 12:27 PM (cknjq)

580 She's awfully proud of those indigenous people. You know, the ones that could not conceive of the wheel on their own.

Posted by: Kangarew66 at September 05, 2021 12:53 PM (EZFTn)

581 Yeah there's no capitalization allowed... except the word "indigenous". Got it. Hey, did those "indigenous" people sprout from the ground in the Americas? Oh, they came here as immigrants from somewhere else? And later waves slaughtered and displaced previous ones?

Why does she presumably oppose immigration control and disfavor the Americans already living here in favor of invaders, if indigenous is a holy word that must be capitalized?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

582
Why does she presumably oppose immigration control and disfavor the Americans already living here in favor of invaders, if indigenous is a holy word that must be capitalized?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 05, 2021 01:07 PM (KZzsI)

She hates Whitey?

Posted by: CN at September 05, 2021 01:22 PM (ONvIw)

583 "Suitable Reading For Kids These Days"...

In a mirror, those heads are in perfect proportion to their bodies.

Posted by: Corona at September 05, 2021 01:25 PM (nakGR)

584 Hiya Cannibal ! (I know you're in here !)

Regards to Heidi !

Posted by: JT at September 05, 2021 01:26 PM (arJlL)

585 I just got Allie Brosh's "Solutions and Other Problems." Like all of her stuff, it's great. Funny and very insightful.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 05, 2021 04:03 PM (OU+8W)

586 525 Do you have a link to their site?

townsends.us

Posted by: Anachronda at September 05, 2021 05:13 PM (edU/H)

587 "John Cazale was in all three, plus Deer Hunter and Dog Day Afternoon. He was only in five movies, and all were Oscar nominated. So five for five. (Six for six if you count his postumous footage in Godfather III)."

How about Harold Russell, three movies total, and two Oscars-he was also in a few TV shows. And until about 1980his record was one movie and two Oscars.

Posted by: Lawdawg at September 06, 2021 01:12 AM (Ap+cR)

588 "I'm quoting Rita Mae Brown from memory (may not be entirely accurate): 'In the publishing industry, the writer is a god; in theater, the writer is king; in film and television, the writer is the hired help.'"
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 05, 2021 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

As a young actress, Alyssa Milano was so dumb she slept with the writers.

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at September 06, 2021 02:18 AM (Ap+cR)

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