Sunday Morning Book Thread 11-01-2020

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Main Reading Room, Library of Parliament, Ottawa, ON, Canada

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which you probably shouldn't wear if you're trying to date a PETA hottie (if such actually exist).

Did You Remember?

Pic Note:

Canada's Library of Parliament is just yuuge:

The main reading room rises to a vaulted ceiling and the walls and stacks are lined with white pine panelling carved into a variety of textures, flowers, masks, and mythical creatures. In the galleries are displayed the coats of arms of the seven provinces that existed in 1876, as well as that of the Dominion of Canada, and standing directly in the centre of the room is a white marble statue of Queen Victoria, sculpted by Marchall Wood in 1871. The northern galleries are also flanked with the white marble busts of Sir John Sandfield Macdonald; Prince Edward, Prince of Wales (later King Edward VII); Alexandra, Princess of Wales (later Queen Alexandra); and Sir Étienne-Paschal Taché.

The library's collection comprises 650,000 items, covering hundreds of years of history and tended by a staff of 300. Access to the facility is generally restricted to those on parliamentary business, but research publications are produced by the library and are available to the public. The main branch on Parliament Hill is only the central hub of a larger complex that spreads to other parliamentary buildings, where services are offered in a number of branch libraries and reading rooms.

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

Critically Drinking

I have recently discovered the Youtube channel of a movie reviewer calling himself The Critical Drinker. Many of you morons probably already know who I'm talking about. But for those who don't, he has adopted the persona of a drunken, profane, surly Scotsman (is there any other kind?) to do movie reviews. He also reviews TV shows, video games, and ~~comics~~ graphic novels. He absolutely hates how 'wokeness' has seeped into (or has been imposed on) these entertainments, sucking all of the life out of them and leaving nothing but desiccated husks, empty of interesting plots, compelling characters, and great stories.

For example, in Mulan - The Movie Nobody Wanted, he makes a good case why the Mulan character in the original animated movie is a better 'strong woman' role model for young girls than one in the live-action reboot. Why the Past Matters is also good.

Here is an introductory video of what his channel is all about. That's where I noticed he also writes political thrillers under the name Will Jordan. His novels feature Ryan Drake, who is "a man who finds people who don't want to be found." The first novel in the series is Redemption, which blurb has a bit more backstory:

Once a soldier in the British Army, he now works for the CIA, leading an elite investigation team that tracks down missing agents. But his latest mission - to free a prisoner codenamed Maras and bring her back onto US soil within forty-eight hours - is more dangerous than anything his team has attempted before.

Despite the risks, the team successfully completes their mission, but for Drake the real danger has only just begun. Faced with a terrible threat, he is forced to go on the run with Maras - a veteran agent scarred by years of brutal imprisonment.

Hunted by his former comrades and those willing to do anything to protect a deadly secret, Drake is left with no choice but to trust a dangerous woman he barely knows. For he has only one chance to save those he loves and time is running out.

I like this bit in his Amazon author's bio:

To support himself during his degree he worked a number of part time jobs, one of which was as an extra in television and feature films. Cast in several action/war movies, he was put through military boot camp and weapons training in preparation.

Having always enjoyed writing, he used this experience as the basis for his first thriller, REDEMPTION. He was able to supplement this with visits to weapon ranges in America and Eastern Europe, as well as research trips to Washington DC, London and New York.

There are 8 other installments in Jordan's Ryan Drake series.

So that's all I have for today.

Go away now!

Who Dis:

(Last week's 'who dis' was singer/songwriter/actress/catwoman Eartha Kitt.

Antifa From the Inside Out

Thanks to 'Ette vmom 2020 for giving me a heads-up about the book Behind the Black Mask: My Time as an Antifa Activist by Gabriel Nadales. Many teens go through a "rebellious" phase, but some, like Gabe, have it worse than others:

As a young Mexican immigrant, Gabriel Nadales grew up feeling alienated and distant from the American Dream that brought his parents to this country seeking a better life for themselves and their family. In high school, he was attracted to a left-wing ideology and soon found himself caught up in the anarchist subculture—...Above all, he was angry: angry at cops, angry at Wall Street, angry at corporations that despoiled the environment, angry at America itself.

It was only after being exposed to works by classical liberal economists—such as Milton Friedman and Thomas Sowell—that Nadales began to reconsider his assumptions about capitalism and American society. Eventually he left Antifa and became a conservative activist, advising youth groups on campuses around the country on how to deal with left-wing students, radical faculty, and openly hostile administrators.

I have a theory that most of the kids who get caught up in antifa, if they come from decent backgrounds and have been raised with good values, eventually get to a point where they have to think "whoa, this is really messed up" and drop the whole thing. Those that stay and continue to riot and commit acts of mayhem, there's something wrong with. Because I always hear they have prior criminal records, or do a lot of drugs, or are even pedophiles. They just ain't right in the head. I mean, just look at the antifa mugshot photos.

Another book in a similar vein is the short, $2.99 Kindle book Unmasking Antifa: Five Perspectives on a Growing Threat, of which Mr. Nadales is a contributor. The Amazon blurb has samples from all 5 of the authors. This is the one that disturbed me the most:

“If every example of a district attorney deciding not to prosecute an Antifa member for political reasons is seen as effectively a contribution of sorts to the cause, then Antifa is well-supported at public expense. Every time police… are ordered to stand down during Antifa actions, that too can be viewed as a contribution to Antifa.” -Matthew Vadum, “The Murky Money Trail”

That's pretty effective for being "just an idea."

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And speaking of the election, I saw this one on Twitter yesterday, Divided we Fall: One Possible Future, that might be interesting:

Political upheavals can be a very dangerous time, especially when ideologies are as far apart as they are now. Divided we Fall presents one possible future, one where powerful forces act behind the scenes to effect the change they've wished to create for decades, and have largely been held back. What happens when a nation is sharply divided, anarchistic forces allowed to run wild, and the police are held at bay or even defunded? Add in a presidential assassination, and you have all the potential for a world changing situation. In this world, Divided we Fall.

A collection of talented veteran bestselling authors and several new ones join together to paint a picture of the post 2020 election that none of us hope to see come about. But the more we watch events unfold, the more anything seems possible.

The nine authors in this anthology include Mack Henkel, Brad Torgerson, Sarah Hoyt, and Jon Del Arroz. Available on Kindle only for $3.99.

Books By Morons

Moron author Mark Huffman's novel of antediluvian earth, Leviathian, has just had its price reduced.

The Earth is cursed, humans scrape meager livings from the soil, and legendary beasts roam the wilderness. When a fearsome leviathan threatens his homelands, Noah must find a way to defeat the monster. Desperate to discover its weakness, he journeys to seek the aid of the half-angel giants called the Nephilim. Meanwhile, the angelic Watchers known as the Grigori have seized the great city of Enoch, and their powerful leader has become obsessed with Noah's bride-to-be.

Friendships and faith are tested, and Noah is thrust into the middle of an impossible revolution against the fallen Grigori. His Nephilim comrades must choose whether to fight on the side of humanity or the angels, and their decision may mean the difference between the earth's salvation and its annihilation.

The Kindle edition is $2.99 and the mass-market paperback is $7.99. The paperback is also available from Barnes & Noble.

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The debut novel of moron 'Remarkably Unremarkable' (who mostly lurks) is available for pre-order on Amazon Kindle, Misjudged, a legal thriller featuring Sam Johnstone, a disabled veteran and lawyer who

...was hoping for renewal when he took a job at a boutique law firm in rustic Wyoming. The mountains and streams of the west would be a refreshing, quiet place to start over after years of war and turmoil in his personal life.

But after a local woman is brutally murdered, Sam realizes that things aren’t so quiet in this rural American town. The accused is one Tommy Olsen, a known delinquent who had been sleeping with the victim. Sam is repulsed by the crime and wants nothing to do with the case, but meets with Tommy to make sure he has legal representation.

Yet things are not as they seem.

The Kindle edition of Misjudged is a whopping good 99 cents. This may be the pre-release price. Purchase it now, and it will be delivered to your device on November 10th.

It is also available in hardcover and paperback.

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Moron author David Welch has apparently taken a break from writing science fiction (i.e. The Chaos Quarter series) and has published a western novel, The Day of the Deputy, which he described to be in his e-mail as a "coming of age action-adventure which pit a green young man against hardened criminals, and revenge against justice."

From the Amazon blurb:

Stanton Brunner has always lived in the shadow of famous lawmen. His father is a respected town sheriff, his grandfather a legendary, retired U.S. Marshal. But Stan never wanted to have it out with the bandits of the world, and was content to live the quiet life of a frontier town gunsmith. This comes to a crashing end when Bloody Brit Talmadge and his band of outlaws ride into town. Talmadge...means to rule the town and surrounding valley with an iron fist...When tragedy strikes Stan’s family at Talmadge’s hands, the young man finds himself with a choice: slink away and do nothing, or take up the badge where no one else will.

The Kindle edition is $2.99.

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Moron Recommendations

From a lurking moron:

Also, there's a publisher I go to a lot for old pulp stories I think some of the other morons might like. They're gloriously free of all the PC-crap you see in publishing these days. I included the link if you think it might be something they're interested in. And no, I have no connection to them beyond being a satisfied customer.

Steeger Books | Pulp Fiction Superstore: Pulp Reprints, Vintage Artwork

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If you like, you can follow me on Twitter, where I make the occasional snarky comment.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

Comments

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1 Books for the Book God
Scrolls for the Scroll Throne

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:00 AM (Dc2NZ)

2 That's Joan Fontaine, possibly in Suspicion or Rebecca.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:01 AM (rpbg1)

3 Joan Fontaine

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:02 AM (ONvIw)

4 Tolle Lege
Still working on Peter Wilson's The Thirty Years War, in almost 400 pages but this election is cutting into reading time. Still hoping to be done by Thanksgiving

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 10:02 AM (OjZpE)

5 corgis summoned.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 10:02 AM (PiwSw)

6 2. Suspicion it is.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:02 AM (ONvIw)

7 Canada would be a pretty cool place if it weren't for the Canadians and Canadiens

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:04 AM (ONvIw)

8 Feels late.

Posted by: RI Red at November 01, 2020 10:04 AM (n4c4G)

9 Do you know your nerd history? Check out Damon Knight’s amusing saga of SF fandom, “The Futurians”. The outsized influence this gaggle of maladjusted, malnourished young geniuses would have on science fiction is, well, Astounding. I loved that Frederick Pohl, put in charge of a publication at 19 by a desperate publisher scrambling for content, had his friends write short stories because he needed to fill pages and they were willing to work for pennies.

The roll call includes Asimov, Blish, Knight, Kornbluth, Merrill, Pohl, and Wolheim, among others. They formed a sort of roving circus, moving from flophouse to flophouse, bitching and arguing and writing together. And drinking.

https://nevalalee.wordpress.com/2016/07/27/days-of-futurians-past/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurians

Said Judith Merrill, “The Futurians were a very motley crew. Callow, or extremely unattractive, or both. I felt I belonged very much in such a group, and I think this was characteristic of everyone there, that each of us regarded ourselves as grotesque, and felt comfortable in a gathering of grotesques.”

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

10 My copy of VDH's A War Like No Other finally arrived. Thrift Books is cheap but slooooooow.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:05 AM (ONvIw)

11 Is that a statue of Eris in the Ottawa lieberry?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 10:06 AM (PiwSw)

12 Good morning, all - another month, and some openings of normal life detected. Tricker-Treating last night in my neighborhood was OK. Been better in previous years, but I guess people are still nervous about the Commie Crud.
Road trip today with the Daughter Unit.
Still working on the WWII novel...

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 01, 2020 10:06 AM (xnmPy)

13 11 Is that a statue of Eris in the Ottawa lieberry?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 10:06 AM (PiwSw)

My crown is bigger and I'm holding an Uzi.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

14 I'm busy re-reading what was possibly the second Rex Stout Nero Wolfe novel I ever read at age 12-going-on-13, 1964's A Right to Die. Stout frequently took on real-world issues in his fiction. Even though Wolfe and Archie and their satellites never aged, the outside world went on, and Wolfe dealt with Communists, the malfeasance of the FBI, and, in this one, the civil rights era. AS often with his stuff, I remember the solution, or at least who the murderer is -- and yet I re-read with pleasure. That is writing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:08 AM (rpbg1)

15 I'm on the last chapter of Sherman's memoirs.."Indian Wars"...it's been a so-so read.

Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 10:08 AM (AwYPR)

16 Nice Lieberry!

Those pants, those are not my kinda pants.

The Who Dis is the Neighborhood Karen, looking at her front door from the inside and realizing she can never go out again.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 10:08 AM (R/m4+)

17 Posted by: Sgt. Mom at November 01, 2020 10:06 AM (xnmPy)

In my neighborhood the "rule" was to put a table with candy on it near the sidewalk. I gave it a pass. If people can go out in herds of 20, they can ring a bell. No one did, will use the chocolate for baking.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:08 AM (ONvIw)

18 willowed

rhennigantx, if you are here:

I did get the shingles vac on Wed. Kicked my ass bad!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 01, 2020 07:25 AM (JFO2v)
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It may not be too late to get an antiviral injection (Acyclovir, for example). Shingle caused my wife extreme pain for a year and 20 years later she still suffers nerve damage.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 01, 2020 10:11 AM (HCeRP)

19 We love the Critical Drinker. Best reviews ever. We used his latest StarWars review as entertainment for the beverage course of a dinner party once. Best new star wars movie ever and we didn't even have to watch the movie.

Posted by: Piratepatch at November 01, 2020 10:11 AM (2Xrky)

20 I've been snapped at for taking a flash photo in the Parliamentary library.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 01, 2020 10:12 AM (lgiXo)

21 I read Survive, the fourth and final book in The Atlantis Grail series, by Vera Nazarian. The ending was a bit contrived, but this is a very good YA series, particularly for teen girls.

I also read The Evening and the Morning by Ken Follett. This is a prequel to The Pillars of Earth trilogy. The story occurs between the years of 997 and 1007 A. D. and is set in western England. The characters include a vile, power-hungry bishop, a Norman noblewoman, Edgar, who becomes the master builder of the cathedral in Pillars, and the monk, Alfred, who had the idea to transform a humble village into a great learning center. The book ends as the cathedral's foundation is being dug. An interesting story, and one learns how lives were led in this time and place.

Posted by: Zoltan at November 01, 2020 10:12 AM (XoDVn)

22 Reading The Ascent of Money. I am liking Niall Ferguson's works.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2020 10:13 AM (+P/fb)

23 The other novel I finished this week is new, and I liked it quite a bit. Eight Perfect Murders by Peter Swanson is narrated by a forty-ish Boston bookseller who some years back posted a blog entry about his favorite "perfect" murders in fiction. Now, apparently, someone is using the list to commit a series of killings. . . .

The story is well done and well told, and as an added inducement, he does not make up the list of eight, but has actual books like Francis Iles's Malice Aforethought, The Drowner by John D. MacDonald, and Christie's The A.B.C. Murders. Out of the eight, I have read or seen seven, so that made the story even more fun. Good stuff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:13 AM (rpbg1)

24 Goldcrest looks like a Golden-Crowned Kinglet.

Posted by: Glenn John at November 01, 2020 10:14 AM (EmNKC)

25 In my neighborhood the "rule" was to put a table with candy on it near the sidewalk. I gave it a pass. If people can go out in herds of 20, they can ring a bell. No one did, will use the chocolate for baking.
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The communal pile of candy only works if the adults get to sit around drinking margaritas.

Posted by: Piratepatch at November 01, 2020 10:14 AM (2Xrky)

26 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:15 AM (arJlL)

27 The Who Dis is the Neighborhood Karen, looking at her front door from the inside and realizing she can never go out again.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 10:08 AM (R/m4+)

Most neighborhood Karen-stasi are not as pretty, they are dowdy and photograph every infraction with their cell phones. Do you suppose any of the books in the picture are real, or just studio props?

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:15 AM (ONvIw)

28 Finished On the Road and was glad to be done with it. Any lit crit types who include this on their Best American Novels lists need to be kicked in the balls or cunt punched until they recant. The beginning was ok with a lot of youthful energy and the ending was fine with the Mexican road trip; it was that giant smelly turd in the middle that was the problem. Specifically Dean Moriarity was a worthless deadbeat piece of shit that everyone looked up to as he rubbed his belly a lot and said "yass" all the time; those two affectations alone are ample reason for Kerouac to be given a Pinochet copter ride before he inflicted another written word on the public. It was like the Manson Family looking up to the head weirdo. Supposedly he was based on a real life fuckhead who died of a drug OD. What were the chances?

Good riddance. On to Walker Percy's The Moviegoer which should be much more enjoyable.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:15 AM (y7DUB)

29 >>> 13 11 Is that a statue of Eris in the Ottawa lieberry?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 10:06 AM (PiwSw)

My crown is bigger and I'm holding an Uzi.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

A huge, luxurious crown. The best.

"Daddy would have gotten us Uzis!"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2020 10:16 AM (/kh7m)

30 10 My copy of VDH's A War Like No Other finally arrived. Thrift Books is cheap but slooooooow.
Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:05 AM (ONvIw)
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I've found them speedy enough. Tend to dribble in. But I'm used to the Naval Institute Press. They are glacial. Really. It can take months.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 10:16 AM (7X3UV)

31 The Who Dis is the Neighborhood Karen, looking at her front door from the inside and realizing she can never go out again.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

The pic above it is Hillary; looking for loopholes.

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (arJlL)

32 Speaking of Karens, they come in male varieties too. As I posted on the previous thread:

Back from the grocery. Yours truly the only unmasked one. As I was leaving, a (masked) customer was talking to the (masked) cart wrangler, saying, "You gotta wear a mask if you want to be safe, bruh.

Since I couldn't read the customer's face, I thought he was kidding. I said, "Yeah, a virus that leaves 99.7 per cent of the people who catch it, alive. Some pandemic."

The guy stared at me. "You're takin' your life in your hands, bruh."

I snorted and walked off. I wasn't about to get into an argument with somebody I didn't know, and I wouldn't convince his stupid ass anyway.

What is the male equivalent of a Karen? I know somebody here came up with the perfect name.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (rpbg1)

33 Good morning, Bookists! Thanks OM!

Still reading Defeat Into Victory, by Field-Marshall Sir William Slim, Viscount of Burma or something. I can see why it's considered a classic. excellent book.

Publisher has informed me that my own book's release date has been pushed to late February (a month delay) due to MuShuFlu. who knew printing presses could catch the flu?

Posted by: goatexchange at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (cB2Q5)

34 Most neighborhood Karen-stasi are not as pretty, they are dowdy and photograph every infraction with their cell phones. Do you suppose any of the books in the picture are real, or just studio props?
Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:15 AM (ONvIw)

So true. So very true. I am a survivor of Karen terrorism.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (zr5Kq)

35 One thing that has always gotten me about people who go left in their teens - and I thought so when I was one - is the weirdness of how they think it's daring. Really? You want a system in which, for all practical purposes, your Assistant Principle is in charge? That's daring?

Whoa.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 10:18 AM (7X3UV)

36 That has a lovely panoptikon look to it.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 10:18 AM (B2mhs)

37 The pic above it is Hillary; looking for loopholes.

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (arJlL)

Gun show loopholes?...always wanted some.

Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 10:18 AM (AwYPR)

38 I'm currently reading the latest Reacher novel.

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:19 AM (arJlL)

39
Finished On the Road and was glad to be done with it. Any lit crit types who include this on their Best American Novels lists need to be kicked in the balls or cunt punched until they recant.

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"That's not writing, that's just typing." - Truman Capote

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 01, 2020 10:20 AM (mht8P)

40 Fear me, dangit! I'm descended from a T-Rex!

Posted by: the goldcrest at November 01, 2020 10:20 AM (P1f+c)

41 Oh, and my British 2002 edition (large format paperback) of Kenneth Fearing's The Big Clock arrived last night. A knock sounded on the door about 7 pm, and we thought it was trick-or-treaters. But it was the postman with my package.

We gave him several mini-Snickers, of course.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:20 AM (rpbg1)

42
So true. So very true. I am a survivor of Karen terrorism.
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (zr5Kq)

Me too. I was out walking Rusty and the Karen came out of the house to accuse me of leaving dogshit in her yard (I was standing there with a bag of dogshit). I told her I suspected she shat there herself in order to bitch and that she should FOAD.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:20 AM (ONvIw)

43 What is the male equivalent of a Karen?

I'm going with Karen.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at November 01, 2020 10:21 AM (ExV1e)

44 Well, after much hassle, I finally have my copy of Marvel Classics Omnibus. A large and expensive book that easily could have been two volumes of half the size and half the cost....Anyways, back in the 70's, the folks at Marvel decided to adapt famous novels (from the public domain) into 52 page graphic novels. Apparently they felt that kids (and nerds) of the day would appreciate reading stories like "The Last of the Mohicans" and "The Count of Monte Cristo." It's a marked contrast to the Marvel of today, who thinks it's readers appreciate heroes like Snowflake and Safespace, and lectures about white privilege...

As for the book...so far the art is generally good, but doesn't quite jump out at you like John Buscema's work. (Really, who's does?) And the 70's coloring does the art no favors. I've been spoiled by Savage Sword of Conan. The pacing is also hit or miss. Stories like "Last of the Mohicans" are obviously trying to pack too much story into too little space. But "War of the Worlds" felt just right. So far, I'd say my favorite read has been "Ivanhoe." Pretty good all around, and I smiled to see Robin Hood appear in a story that wasn't called "Robin Hood."

One last note, its refreshing to see stories with old-school standards and practices. The creators have to be circumspect about a character getting stabbed, but they can freely show Jim Hawkins serving rum, and Mohicans can throw around the term 'paleface' with reckless abandon!

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (Lhaco)

45 I read India Conquered, by Jon Wilson. It's the history of the British Raj, a subject of great interest to me. I did learn some interesting factoids, and there were some insights, but overall, I can't recommend the book.

Wilson has one thesis: the British were bad, and did nothing positive in India, because they spent all their time trying to justify being there, worrying about being killed, and generally oppressing the natives. Wilson is a professor of history at King's College, so this is the bilge the best and brightest of British students get taught. Does anyone wonder why GB has lost its mojo?
I looked up his bio, and yeah, he's a communist / Fabian socialist, not that I think there's really a difference. You can tell, because every event and personality is shoved into the commie template for explaining history. After awhile, it became kind of fun to try and guess how he was going to explain why British irrigation, medicine, science, political structures and law were bad for India.

Why did I finish the book? In part because I'm interested in the subject matter, and in part because it's instructive to see how these people "think".

Posted by: pep at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (v16oJ)

46 Anyway, I bought some old unused spelling workbooks for the grandsons. Schools have a thing against spelling these days.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (ONvIw)

47 Victoria is an amazing Kinks song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (qiqGr)

48 So true. So very true. I am a survivor of Karen terrorism.
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (zr5Kq)

Me too. I was out walking Rusty and the Karen came out of the house to accuse me of leaving dogshit in her yard (I was standing there with a bag of dogshit). I told her I suspected she shat there herself in order to bitch and that she should FOAD.
Posted by: CN

LOL !!!

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (arJlL)

49 Those pants are fine. I would sniff them and chase them around my back yard.

Posted by: the dog at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (Vm49O)

50 I must say, ALL of my neighbors are pretty cool.

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (arJlL)

51 My copy of VDH's A War Like No Other finally arrived. Thrift Books is cheap but slooooooow.
Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:05 AM (ONvIw)

Good to know. I'm reading a library copy which should give me a lot of time but I'll probably eventually buy one just as a companion volume to the Landmark Thucydides (where VDH writes an intro, strangely not as interestingly written to me as his subsequent book).

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (y7DUB)

52 Stefan?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (qiqGr)

53 Along with my big projects, The Decline and Fall and Vanity Fair, I'm reading the Library of America's 30s Noir collection. Finished The Postman Always Rings Twice, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and Thieves Like Us. All three were very good. I've seen both movies of Postman, and the actual novel might as well be the screenplay for the first one. All I knew about Horses was it was a famous movie in it's day that I thought was about marathon dancing. Boy was I wrong. Thieves Like Us dragged a little in the beginning but once the main character hooks up with his little Indian girlfriend it gets good.

Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (SfO/T)

54 I'm halfway through Officers and Gentlemen, the second book of Waugh's Sword of Honour trilogy.

He is so fun to read! Really enjoying it.

After I finish this, I'm going to revisit Joseph Conrad. It's been a long time since I read him and want to see how he compares.

My writing isn't exactly at a standstill, but I'm working on a recurring feature over at Bleedingfool.com and 'banking' some of my pieces. It suits the schedule, since the household is in a transitional state at the moment. Once my middle kid ships out for training, we'll be able to get settled and hopefully I have more writing time.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (cfSRQ)

55 the Mexican road trip; it was that giant smelly turd in the middle that was the problem. Specifically Dean Moriarity was a worthless deadbeat piece of shit that everyone looked up to as he rubbed his belly a lot and said "yass" all the time; those two affectations alone are ample reason for Kerouac to be given a Pinochet copter ride before he inflicted another written word on the public. It was like the Manson Family looking up to the head weirdo. Supposedly he was based on a real life fuckhead who died of a drug OD. What were the chances?

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:15 AM (y7DUB)

Pretty much all of the movers and shakers of the "beat" generation were some combination of (a) homo (b) pedo (c) nutzo (mentally ill). Throw in the heavy drug usage and you've got quite a toxic brew of abnormality and our culture will always be retarded as long as we continue to venerate them and hold them up as heroes.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 10:24 AM (yyr7Q)

56 This week, one of the boxes unpacked (most still are not) included N A M Rodger's two, Safeguard of the Sea and Command of the Ocean. The latter was damaged.

I think I've made it clear how that would annoy me. He rivals Norman Friedman as the top living writer on matters naval.

I weep.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 10:24 AM (7X3UV)

57 Specifically Dean Moriarity was a worthless deadbeat piece of shit that everyone looked up to as he rubbed his belly a lot and said "yass" all the time; those two affectations alone are ample reason for Kerouac to be given a Pinochet copter ride before he inflicted another written word on the public. It was like the Manson Family looking up to the head weirdo. Supposedly he was based on a real life fuckhead who died of a drug OD. What were the chances?

Good riddance. On to Walker Percy's The Moviegoer which should be much more enjoyable.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020

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I dipped into the early pages of Kerouac's "classic" once. Once only; that was enough. There was a neat movie in the late '70s called Heart Beat that starred John Heard as Kerouac and Nick Nolte as Dean, and Sissy Spacek as the woman they both loved. Now when I read their names I think of those actors.

The Moviegoer I have also not finished. Maybe it's too literary for me. But at least it reads like a real novel instead of a stream of altered consciousness.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:24 AM (rpbg1)

58 rhennigantx,

Sorry I misread it: I thought you got Shingles, not the vaccine. Excellent move!!

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It may not be too late to get an antiviral injection (Acyclovir, for example). Shingle caused my wife extreme pain for a year and 20 years later she still suffers nerve damage.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 01, 2020 10:24 AM (HCeRP)

59 Pretty much all of the movers and shakers of the "beat" generation were
some combination of (a) homo (b) pedo (c) nutzo (mentally ill). Throw in
the heavy drug usage and you've got quite a toxic brew of abnormality
and our culture will always be retarded as long as we continue to
venerate them and hold them up as heroes.

I think you are forgetting their biggest contribution: finger snapping at poetry readings.

Posted by: pep at November 01, 2020 10:26 AM (v16oJ)

60 A Confederacy of Dunces. Would probably not win a Pulitzer if discovered today.

Posted by: scottst at November 01, 2020 10:27 AM (Sp7Tg)

61 Wolfus Aurelius "Oh, and my British 2002 edition (large format paperback) of Kenneth Fearing's The Big Clock arrived last night. " What a coincidence, that's next up in the LOA volume.

Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020 10:27 AM (SfO/T)

62 yes I read redemption as well, you don't often get to see how he illustrates the ability to craft an effective narrative, believable characters, what hasn't been evident in jj star wars, the last terminator film, the kelvin trek et al,

after the 250 page mark, I'm kind of stuck in a rut, where to take the novella, I've run all the shymalan twists I can think of,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 10:27 AM (hMlTh)

63 I have recently discovered the Youtube channel of a movie reviewer calling himself The Critical Drinker.
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I saw his Mulan review and it was excellent.

This is why so many modern works of literature/film suck.

It is also killing otherwise good stuff.

For example, I saw Z: The Beginning of Everything on Amazon. My wife's a big fan of Zelda Fitzgerald, so we watched it on a whim and started to get into it.

But it wasn't renewed - because it wasn't "woke" enough.

So even when you have writers capable of taking on an interesting and flawed female character, the harridans will swoop in and demand it get stomped because the ONLY shows permitted now are dull plodding LGQBTWERY++ approved dreck.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:27 AM (cfSRQ)

64 Good to know. I'm reading a library copy which should give me a lot of time but I'll probably eventually buy one just as a companion volume to the Landmark Thucydides (where VDH writes an intro, strangely not as interestingly written to me as his subsequent book).
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (y7DUB)

They use some "shipping partner" and no matter where they originate they end up sitting in York, PA for a very long time.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:28 AM (ONvIw)

65 I read some of william burroughs, my god did they all have to be on drugs to understand this, I don't swing that way,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 10:28 AM (hMlTh)

66 I must say, ALL of my neighbors are pretty cool.
Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:23 AM (arJlL)

That's not what they say about you....

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:29 AM (zr5Kq)

67 I have no idea who 'dis is but it looks like a still from a mystery movie. The books are all related to mysteries.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at November 01, 2020 10:29 AM (lgiXo)

68 I am undone! All these posts are from the future!

Posted by: CZ = Happiness at November 01, 2020 10:30 AM (MkuC5)

69 22 Reading The Ascent of Money. I am liking Niall Ferguson's works.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 01, 2020 10:13 AM (+P/fb)

His wife is Aayan Hirsi Ali, otherwise known as the anti-Ilhan Omar.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 01, 2020 10:30 AM (0F3y0)

70 Never saw Dead of Night until recently. Great movie.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 10:30 AM (qiqGr)

71
So even when you have writers capable of taking on an interesting and flawed female character, the harridans will swoop in and demand it get stomped because the ONLY shows permitted now are dull plodding LGQBTWERY++ approved dreck.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:27 AM (cfSRQ)

I also enjoy the Scott and Zelda story. They have grandkids in the Philly area, IIRC, who still trade on the legacy.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:30 AM (ONvIw)

72 Along with my big projects, The Decline and Fall and Vanity Fair, I'm reading the Library of America's 30s Noir collection. Finished The Postman Always Rings Twice, They Shoot Horses, Don't They?, and Thieves Like Us. All three were very good. I've seen both movies of Postman, and the actual novel might as well be the screenplay for the first one. . . .
Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020

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Tom Wolfe (the recent one, the white suit wearer) said that reading a Cain novel was like climbing into a stock car, and the driver was up to 60 before you could close the door.

Sometimes Cain's dialog worked on screen. Raymond Chandler, working with Cain on adapting Double Indemnity, didn't think the dialog in that novel would play on screen -- that it "looked good on the page," but didn't sound like real human being speech when spoken aloud. DI the film has the essential core of the story and the characters, but very little of the actual dialog in the book made it to the screen. For instance, Keyes, the insurance exec played by Edward G. Robinson, never mentions "the little man inside," his instinct for something wrong as described in the film, in the novel.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:30 AM (rpbg1)

73 Anyway, I bought some old unused spelling workbooks for the grandsons. Schools have a thing against spelling these days.
Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (ONvIw)

And writing, and math. I've seen 16 YO who have trouble writing their names in cursive.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:31 AM (zr5Kq)

74 An unintended side effect of wokescolds dominating the arts is that I think a lot of otherwise leftish or apolitical creators are having to go the right simply by default.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Time was, religious-themed movies were clunky, cheap affairs with z-list actors and bad direction and stilted dialogue.

Now you're seeing excellent production values and writing superior to anything the big studios can produce. I'm noticing a fair amount of talent is (quietly) participating.

I think the contrast between the two conventions this summer illustrated this. Biden's was a joke, looking like the AV Club did it. Trump's was slick, professional, perfectly-crafted.

Much of Hollywood's reputation for craftmanship comes not from the A-list actors and directors, but from the production crews, and it seems these are voting with their feet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (cfSRQ)

75 Right now, rereading all of Barbara Pym's novels.

Also - FINISHED my translation of the Spanish Civil War (the Blue, or Nationalist, half). Husband has formatted it into a nice neat .pdf that runs about 250 pages and it has been sent out to my devoted circle of 5 readers ;-)
I have now started on Red Spain and am 3 chapters in. Short version, so far: Commies gotta Commie, then as now.
Husband says I should try and find a publisher for Blue Spain. I point out that the original Spanish book is still under copyright and they're not interested in a translation - though I suspect the book is just a back number (published 1973), currently gathering dust, and they don't think there would be enough interest to justify funding a reissue/translation. They're probably right. But he thinks if I find an American publisher who's interested, then they could negotiate with Editorial Planeta and make something happen. But I haven't the faintest idea where to begin, so I'm just sitting on it for now.
Glad we're back to Standard Time. Will be gladder still when this election is over.

Posted by: Annalucia at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (S6ArX)

76 Pretty much all of the movers and shakers of the "beat" generation were some combination of (a) homo (b) pedo (c) nutzo (mentally ill). Throw in the heavy drug usage and you've got quite a toxic brew of abnormality and our culture will always be retarded as long as we continue to venerate them and hold them up as heroes.

I think you are forgetting their biggest contribution: finger snapping at poetry readings.
Posted by: pep at November 01, 2020 10:26 AM (v16oJ)

They liked jazz a lot, specifically contemporary bebop, but wrote incomprehensibly about it including getting some names wrong. James Baldwin had a lot of issues but he wrote intelligently about music.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (y7DUB)

77
And writing, and math. I've seen 16 YO who have trouble writing their names in cursive.
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:31 AM (zr5Kq

Common Core is a very low level program

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (ONvIw)

78 I think a male Karen should be called Kenneth.

Posted by: Zoltan at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (XoDVn)

79 I'm here.

JT, how is the Reacher book? All of a sudden I have 3 books from the library waiting and two already on my kindle. As they are time limited, have to decide which ones to grab first. Reacher book is one of them.
Also just got the Zelazny book that was recommended. Sigh...really good problem to have.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 10:33 AM (sd8p8)

80 Huh.

I never realized Europe didn't have hummingbirds.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at November 01, 2020 10:34 AM (o/smN)

81 Ah, that dashing exemplar of Scottish wit, the Drinker. I've been a Patron of his for over a year now, I was lucky enough to stumble over his drunken rants soon after he started his YT channel. My wife and I constantly use his sarcastic stock-phrase "Naww, it'll be fine!" Highly recommend his reviews, very entertaining and well-edited videos.

Posted by: Pave Low John at November 01, 2020 10:34 AM (+KIcz)

82 Has anyone else noticed this?

Time was, religious-themed movies were clunky, cheap affairs with z-list actors and bad direction and stilted dialogue.

Now
you're seeing excellent production values and writing superior to
anything the big studios can produce. I'm noticing a fair amount of
talent is (quietly) participating.

I agree. "The Chosen", for instance. Season One was excellent. Season Two is in production. Very well done.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 01, 2020 10:34 AM (gm3d+)

83 Edward G. Robinson as the insurance guy in Double Indemnity is one of my all time favorite movie roles. He's fantastic, and the first time I saw the movie, I'd never seen him play anything but a gangster.

Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020 10:35 AM (SfO/T)

84 Edward G. Robinson is always good in any movie.

Posted by: dantesed at November 01, 2020 10:36 AM (88xKn)

85 Am I the only one who misses the gaming threads?

I consider book reading to be euphuistic and highfalutin.

I much prefer a game review with tips on how to mindlessly blow a nazi's head off in Call of Duty.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 10:36 AM (8YFRI)

86 I am moving into the end of Poul Anderson's the Polesotechnic League series. The league is ending and the Empire is beginning to form. The Revolution has arrived and internal and external enemies are pressing for a New Order.

Interesting Anderson quote from the book: "If you plan to restructure a society, you start by atomizing it."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 01, 2020 10:36 AM (3P/5p)

87 Edward G. Robinson as the insurance guy in Double Indemnity is one of my all time favorite movie roles. He's fantastic, and the first time I saw the movie, I'd never seen him play anything but a gangster.
Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020 10:35 AM (SfO/T)

...well, I guess Dathan is kind of a gangster, isn't he ...

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:36 AM (zr5Kq)

88 I also enjoy the Scott and Zelda story. They have grandkids in the Philly area, IIRC, who still trade on the legacy.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:30 AM (ONvIw)

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It provoked a lot of discussion with me and the missus, that's for sure. She's a very talented writer, but painfully shy about sharing it. That's why she hasn't published anything.

It's also interesting insofar as you write what you know, and it's interesting to see how much of his own life Fitzgerald drew upon.

I think this is also a reason why contemporary writing/films are so awful. We have writers who never really lived at all. They went to good schools, read safe books and now can only regurgitate stale tropes. They know nothing of actual life.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:37 AM (cfSRQ)

89 Annie Haslam.

Posted by: klaftern at November 01, 2020 10:37 AM (RuIsu)

90 Finally read Isaac Asimov’s short story from 1941, “Nightfall”. The planet Lagash is constantly illuminated by at least one of the six suns in its solar system. While there are patches of darkness, the populace doesn’t comprehend the idea of “night”. An undiscovered moon invisible with all the sunlight will soon eclipse the lone remaining sun in the sky. Will civilization collapse as people go mad with fright?

The denizens of Lagash have no idea how vast the universe is, since the only stars they see are in their own solar system.

Here’s a diagram of the system in which Lagash (called Kalgash in the novelization) is located:

https://www.space.com/40234-alien-planet-with-no-nightfall-kalgash.html

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:38 AM (Dc2NZ)

91 Also just got the Zelazny book that was recommended...
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Which one was that?

And I don't know about all that "enjoy your extra hour of sleep" stuff. After getting up at 2AM to set all the clocks, and then having to get back to sleep, I think I'm a net loser. And don't get me started on the "Spring Forward" stuff.

Posted by: Moldy Oldy at November 01, 2020 10:38 AM (YqED9)

92 Currently reading about Godless Commies in space:

Red Star in Orbits by James E. Oberg (pblished 1980). An important book with lots of information concerning the development of the Soviet space prograqm. Author was a NASA computer analyst fluent in Russian. Lots of background on the early Soviet program and the political rather than engineering basis of certain decision. Rating = 5.0/5 (Within the constraints of Soviet secrecy and unclassified data.)

Almanac of Soviet Manned Space Flight by Dennis Newkirk (1990). A very good attempt to catalog the Soviet space missions from 1960-1989. A fair number of drawings and photgraphs. The author does not go into as much detail per mission as Oberg did, but covers a lot more ground. The last section of the book supports Oberg's conclusion that the Soviets were attempting to achieve a manned mission to Mars by the year 2000. Rating = 4.5/5/

Autopsy for a Cosmonauts by Jacob Hay and John Keshishian (1969). A little paperback thriller set in late 1966 - early 1967 (the Apollo One fire is mentioned). The Soviets have deployed a Voskhod space craft studying long-term space flight; after two months the crew dies under mysterious circumstances. The Americans decide to send a Gemini capsule to get tissue samples from the dead Cosmonauts. Pretty slow to start, the best part of novel is the last third once the Gemini gets launched and the Soviets react. One of the authors was a doctor and gave some thought as to how, and where on the body, you would get tissue samples from a body frozen solid (a sort of cordless drill is used to take core samples). Rating = 3.5/5.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 01, 2020 10:38 AM (pJWtt)

93 I read "The Moviegoer" a few years ago. I really liked it. I like everything Walker Percy wrote. "Lost in the Cosmos" is great.

Posted by: JAS at November 01, 2020 10:39 AM (2BZBZ)

94 I'm here.

JT, how is the Reacher book? All of a sudden I have 3 books from the library waiting and two already on my kindle. As they are time limited, have to decide which ones to grab first. Reacher book is one of them.
Also just got the Zelazny book that was recommended. Sigh...really good problem to have.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

I have read and re-read ALL of them; I thoroughly enjoy them.

Let me know what ya think.

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:39 AM (arJlL)

95 It's also interesting insofar as you write what you know, and it's interesting to see how much of his own life Fitzgerald drew upon.

I think this is also a reason why contemporary writing/films are so awful. We have writers who never really lived at all. They went to good schools, read safe books and now can only regurgitate stale tropes. They know nothing of actual life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:37 AM (cfSRQ)

He considered her diaries to be his literary property and her life for that matter.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:40 AM (ONvIw)

96 I think this is also a reason why contemporary writing/films are so awful. We have writers who never really lived at all. They went to good schools, read safe books and now can only regurgitate stale tropes. They know nothing of actual life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:37 AM (cfSRQ)
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I've been saying this a long time. Think of Gene Rodenberry's life and experiences (he may not be an epic wordsmith but he's a great storyteller). He understood what it was to be tried by life-or-death circumstances.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:40 AM (Dc2NZ)

97 I read some of william burroughs, my god did they all have to be on drugs to understand this, I don't swing that way,
Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 10:28 AM (hMlTh)

Burroughs could at least write a readable narrative, most of which were pretty funny, at least to me. Part of it was having heard audio clips of him speaking in a deadbeat buzzy voice. Plus he looked like the type of nondescript smallish characters that Robert Crumb would draw; like the actor who played Red in That 70s Show. I could see Burroughs in Robocop saying "I work for Dick Jones".

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:40 AM (y7DUB)

98 Set your clocks back one hour Sunday morning.

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I set my alarm for 2:00 so I could get up and turn my clocks back to 1:00. An hour later I did it again. And an hour after that. And so on.

I hardly got any sleep at all last night.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 10:41 AM (Fc5rx)

99 Annie Haslam.

Has lam ?

Do I need a mask ?

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:41 AM (arJlL)

100 The bacon is in the skillet !

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 10:42 AM (arJlL)

101 Bookish problem # ...

You're wandering through the furniture store looking at the left-over, unwanted books that they put up for decoration.

actually bought one once. the store people were so flabbergasted they didn't know how much to charge me. IIRC, i got it for a dollar. back in 1970's when a dollar was worth something.

Posted by: yara at November 01, 2020 10:42 AM (rde8g)

102 I've been working through Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious, by C.G. Jung. There are a lot of points where I've read it and said, "he's nailed the current left."

Also reading Sir Gawain and the Green Knight in bits and pieces. Going to try and finish that this week, if I get a chance to read between driving across the country and hunting for a place to live.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 01, 2020 10:42 AM (vqbU3)

103 He considered her diaries to be his literary property and her life for that matter.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:40 AM (ONvIw)

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Yes, and I was really enjoying the show as it built the tension around their relationship.

And then...nothing.

Such a waste.

Also, another example of how "feminists" actually hate real women.

It wasn't Men's Rights activists who got the show canceled. Celebrate another win, ladies. You just Unpersoned a pivotal figure in "Herstory."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)

104 The sad secret (or not-so-secret) is that many authors and artists are lauded by the powers-that-be based on their politics. You see this everywhere--"influencers" who are artificially constructed, and then given a ton of publicity and pushed hard.
And you also see authors and artists who have been put in this "influencer" position after they were organically popular--Lee Child of Jack Reacher is one of these, where suddenly his stories got woke, and sales dropped.
The good news is that these people aren't so influential anymore. It still happens, though.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 10:43 AM (AwPyG)

105 85 Am I the only one who misses the gaming threads?

I consider book reading to be euphuistic and highfalutin.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 10:36 AM (8YFRI)

The Horde euphuistic? Folderol and rodomontade! Super-soakers at twenty paces, Sir!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 10:43 AM (PiwSw)

106 William S. Burroughs was a very good author, if you have a high tolerance for drug-fueled romps with dusky lads. "Cities of the Red Night" was like an opium nightmare.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:44 AM (Dc2NZ)

107 Let me know what ya think.
Posted by: JT at November 01,

I'll grab that one first. I also have read them all. They are always such quick reads. One of my favorite things is figuring out which woman he ends up sleeping with before the end of the book. Oops. Hope I didn't spoil it for anyone. Lol

The Zelazny book is A Night in the Lonesome October said to be his last book.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 10:44 AM (sd8p8)

108 I read "The Moviegoer" a few years ago. I really liked it. I like everything Walker Percy wrote. "Lost in the Cosmos" is great.
Posted by: JAS at November 01, 2020 10:39 AM (2BZBZ)

I read some of his stuff when I was too immature to really appreciate it, like Henry James. Unless someone is precociously literary, or maybe a homo, Henry James is lost on yutes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:45 AM (y7DUB)

109 Yeah, The Critical Drinker videos are great!

While waiting in line to recycle some old computers yesterday, I started reading an amazon e-book on The Kingdom of Kush. It was kind of chore to get through the preamble, which was just litany of 'people in the past had misconceptions about Kush, but we're better now.' Hopefully it'll get better when it gets to actually presenting information.

Posted by: Castle Guy at November 01, 2020 10:46 AM (Lhaco)

110 Also, another example of how "feminists" actually hate real women.

It wasn't Men's Rights activists who got the show canceled. Celebrate another win, ladies. You just Unpersoned a pivotal figure in "Herstory."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)

I guess if Zelda had offed Scott, she'd be a hero to them. I wonder if they know her story at all.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:47 AM (ONvIw)

111 The Horde euphuistic? Folderol and rodomontade! Super-soakers at twenty paces, Sir!

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You sir, are a foppish snollygoster!

Speaking of which, I just found an awesome word for Karens as well:

Smellfungus

Definition: an excessively faultfinding person

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 10:47 AM (8YFRI)

112 and yet he was an heir to the adding machine fortune, kurtwood smith, it's kind of interesting how he was in that role, then ended up as the antithesis in that 70s show,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 10:47 AM (hMlTh)

113 Incidentally, it was a Lee Child Short story written with Karin Slaughter that turned me on to her Will Trent series which is outstanding.
Story title: Cleaning the Gold. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 10:47 AM (sd8p8)

114 Milksop is also a good one if you get tired of saying soyboys

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 10:48 AM (8YFRI)

115 Milksop is also a good one if you get tired of saying soyboys

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Pantywaist.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:49 AM (zr5Kq)

116 Those who are commenting above that modern authors have nothing to say, because they haven't truly lived, are on to something.

Those of us Morons, who struggled to get ahead in life and grab our little piece of the American Dream, might have made life too easy for our kids. When the little booties were little, we would remind them of that fact, and let them know that the world we lived in was a bubble that bore little resemblance to the real world.

Our kids "get it" in a sense, but many of their peers do not. They are the ones who see all the "-isms" lurking everywhere, and who think that because the entire world isn't living the upper middle class suburban dream, that the people who are living that dream are somehow evil and keeping the rest of the world out.

Makes me think of that Heinlin quote, about bad luck.

Posted by: Boots at November 01, 2020 10:49 AM (oGBso)

117 I've been saying this a long time. Think of Gene
Rodenberry's life and experiences (he may not be an epic wordsmith but
he's a great storyteller). He understood what it was to be tried by
life-or-death circumstances.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:40 AM (Dc2NZ)

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Roddenberry was a lousy storyteller, but in the 60s he had a keen eye for talent. He knew what felt real and supported writers who could tell a good tale.

That quality is sorely lacking today.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:50 AM (cfSRQ)

118 Yesterday, I visited the downtown branch of the Allen County Public Library in Fort Wayne. (BTW, If you're into genealogy, they're worth checking out - pun intended.)

Anyhoo, I'm perusing some tomes, and I inadvertently get within 6 feet of a female patron. Mind you, we both have masks on, and she is facing away from me.

She says, "You're getting too close."

I'm a nice live and let live Hoosier, so I'm all set to apologize and back away, until she follows up with,

"I'M NOT MOVING!"

O.K, then...

My turn to speak: "Karen, If this virus scares you so $%^#@ much, you should stay the &@%$ home and let the rest of us live our lives. Good day."

Then I left to check out my treasure. I very rarely get triggered by anything or anyone, but that hit my last nerve.

Leave it to folks to sully a glorious library visit. Oh, well.

Posted by: Fortcoins at November 01, 2020 10:50 AM (nV60k)

119 Red Nights, is the one I read, re fleming it's interesting that he described bond as close to the American midwestern crooner, who somewhat resembled connery, another fmr spy, roauld dahl, thought up the elaborate spectre space kidnapping plot, in you only live twice,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 10:50 AM (hMlTh)

120 Edward G. Robinson as the insurance guy in Double Indemnity is one of my all time favorite movie roles. He's fantastic, and the first time I saw the movie, I'd never seen him play anything but a gangster.
Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020

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He really makes the thing go. The story is that Robinson got in touch with Cain to ask if he, Cain, could write some more stuff about Keyes, so that Robinson could play him again. Cain was in favor of it, but it never happened.

Robinson had been a star, a lead actor, for some 15 years at that point, and here he was being asked to play a secondary, character role. Rather than getting upset, he realized that time in his career had come. Besides, he said, he was getting paid the same as MacMurray and Stanwyck, but had to work fewer hours!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:51 AM (rpbg1)

121 Victoria is an amazing Kinks song.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (qiqGr)

Yes it is. The music they put out in the 60s is among the best there is from that time.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 01, 2020 10:51 AM (Mb+R9)

122 Then I left to check out my treasure. I very rarely get triggered by anything or anyone, but that hit my last nerve.

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May Election Day result in the biggest middle finger to the smellfungus in history.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 10:51 AM (8YFRI)

123 Yay! Will Jordan! He also has "The Drinker Fixes" where he tries to fix the things he sees that are wrong with various movies and TV shows.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 01, 2020 10:51 AM (qDSku)

124 The Statue in the library is titled "Victoria", but I think the statue is several inches too tall, and at least a foot too narrow.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 10:52 AM (V2Yro)

125 I guess if Zelda had offed Scott, she'd be a hero to them. I wonder if they know her story at all.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:47 AM (ONvIw)

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They don't. To them she was a Southern straight white girl and her story was less important than pushing their radical agenda.

Also, since they can't create, they destroy the stuff that is better than their dreck.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:52 AM (cfSRQ)

126 Smellfungus

Definition: an excessively faultfinding person

Who are these people? We run a closed shop.

Posted by: Porcine Truffle Seekers Union at November 01, 2020 10:53 AM (v16oJ)

127 I think Karin Slaughter is a great storyteller. She's a teensy on the dark side, but she's always consistently good.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 10:53 AM (AwPyG)

128 Sorry, I know I'm off topic, but I just finished some serious analysis on Florida voting, trying to account for the changes in voting patterns due to Covid. This is something I got email from CBD on.

So far in Florida we have 8.1M votes.
Based on the 14% increase in voter registrations, we should have a minimum of 10.3M votes cast this year (9.1M were cast in 2016)

This means that 2.1M votes will be cast on Election Day.

Using registration percentages, 575K of those will be NPA, leaving 1.6M from party affiliated voters.

Lots of data out there saying Election Day voting will be more GOP than Dem, might be 2:1, but for safety sake I'm going to assume 60% of that 1.6M is GOP and 40% are Dem.

Add all of that to the early votes and you get a final vote share of:

Dem = 3.9M
GOP = 4.1M
NPA = 2.3M

Now I take a stab at vote share in each group. Assuming 15% of Dem vote goes to Trump, 10% of GOP vote goes to Biden, and 51.5% of NPA vote goes to Biden (this 3% of the NPA is the Democrats own number), we end up with the following:

Biden = 4,939,361 votes
Trump = 5,427,938 votes

Trump wins by 488,576 votes

There are a lot of things that can improve this for Trump as well. I think 2.1M election day votes is a bare minimum, it will probably go higher. I also think that 60% vote share goes higher. Also the Dem crossover could be more than 15% and giving Biden a 10% crossover is very generous. Finally, a number of polls show NPA breaking to Trump, not Biden.

About the only thing that could help Biden is getting double the number of Democrats to the polls on the 3rd, after spending months trying to get them to vote early.

I don't see any path for Biden to win Florida right now, given the votes that are already cast.

I'll recheck all of this tomorrow once we have the final early votes for Florida.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 10:53 AM (5p7BC)

129 I used to like Michael Connelly up to around the time he introduced diverse female character in a new novel series. Then his other series got woketarded as well.

Funny thing, there's been a notable uptick in rampant obscenity in dialogue that's become so pervasive that LA cops have actually complained to him, "Dude, we don't fucking talk like that."

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 10:54 AM (8YFRI)

130 Have to leave for a bit to get to the farmer's market before it pours.
BBL because I know all you book nerds will still be here.
xxxooo

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 10:54 AM (sd8p8)

131 Zelda wrote before there was a Scott in her life, and some of her phraseology is a pleasure in itself. Her art is interesting too.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 10:54 AM (ONvIw)

132 A Trunalimunumaprzure is kind of like a Kwyjibo, but has more ear hair.

Posted by: JoeBidarian Scholar at November 01, 2020 10:54 AM (cPSrC)

133 well roddenberry did set up the frame that blish and bloch and ellison and co, did work under in the series, he was a former air force (flew the china hump), was a police officer under william parker, (which inspired his version of spock)
which he got to know as his speechwriter,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 10:54 AM (hMlTh)

134 Smellfungus is a fact of life for me. Sigh.

Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at November 01, 2020 10:55 AM (EgshT)

135 "Smellifluous" should be a word.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:56 AM (Dc2NZ)

136 I have a theory that most of the kids who get caught up in antifa, if they come from decent backgrounds and have been raised with good values, eventually get to a point where they have to think "whoa, this is really messed up" and drop the whole thing.

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Dante's Inferno begins:

Midway on our life's journey, I found myself
In dark woods, the right road lost.

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(Or, as soon to be expatriot in Australia Bruce Springsteen said, "I took a wrong turn and I just kept going.)

How true to life! As we stumble our way through life, even with the best of intentions but acting with imperfect information, we wake (not woke) to discover that we're in a world of shit with no EXIT sign in sight. That is when we have the opportunity to grow. Many fail.

Incidentally, one of my favorite books is Robert Penn Warren's All the King's Men which, I contend, is a modern; i.e. 1930s, retelling of The Divine Comedy. Compare and contrast the first lines of The Inferno quoted above and the first paragraph of ATKM, for example.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 01, 2020 10:56 AM (+y/Ru)

137 I'll recheck all of this tomorrow once we have the final early votes for Florida.

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Those Miami stats are what encourages me since it could be a microcosm of what the minority turnout will be like. It's like 20% of the democrat voters in Miami-Dade disappeared into thin air.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 10:56 AM (8YFRI)

138 "Karen, If this virus scares you so $%^#@ much, you should stay the
@%$ home and let the rest of us live our lives. Good day."

"Then I left to check out my treasure. I very rarely get triggered by anything or anyone, but that hit my last nerve."

Fortcoins, that was magnificent.

Posted by: Annalucia at November 01, 2020 10:56 AM (S6ArX)

139 I think this is also a reason why contemporary writing/films are so awful. We have writers who never really lived at all. They went to good schools, read safe books and now can only regurgitate stale tropes. They know nothing of actual life.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:37 AM (cfSRQ)

I agree. I used to think it was writing workshops that ruined contemporary fiction and, especially, poetry. A bunch of writers sitting around writing for other writers rather than an audience. It's just mutual masturbation.

Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020 10:56 AM (SfO/T)

140 Thanks Dave in Fla.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:56 AM (zr5Kq)

141 Someone turned on the gd0am heat and I'm desiccated now.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2020 10:56 AM (eqpBs)

142 You know FL is over when ABC has Trump +2.

Posted by: Ha at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM (FHHuk)

143 Dave in Florida--thank you for your analysis of the Florida vote so far.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM (TdMsT)

144 roauld dahl, thought up the elaborate spectre space kidnapping plot, in you only live twice,
Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 10:50 AM (hMlTh)

Dahl wrote some really creepy short stories, particularly one about a thoroughly twisted wine expert who set up a bet to enslave a young daughter of an acquaintance. I needed lysol and a steel brush after that one.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM (y7DUB)

145 123
Yay! Will Jordan! He also has "The Drinker Fixes" where he tries to
fix the things he sees that are wrong with various movies and TV shows.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 01, 2020 10:51 AM (qDSku)

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That's another interested development: how even 'low brow' conservatives can offer scathing critiques of Hollywood's products.

By that I mean, they can't just pronounce them to be crap, but explain how they would have worked if the production team wasn't blinded by wokeness.

It's funny because "deconstruction" was a leftist specialty, but all they really intended for it was to wreck stuff they found politically suspect.

But if you break down storyline, character, etc., you can effectively figure out why a movie/book doesn't work and how it could have worked.

I mean, that's basically what Man of Destiny was - a full-on rewrite of the Star Wars prequels. I got tired of explaining how it should have gone and just did it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM (cfSRQ)

146 Roddenberry was a lousy storyteller, but in the 60s he had a keen eye for talent. He knew what felt real and supported writers who could tell a good tale.

That quality is sorely lacking today.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020

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I forget who said it, but apparently GR was a good re-writer. He knew how to fix problems in someone else's script better than he knew how to construct his own. He had to re-do some of the early ST scripts to fit the format and his vision -- "We couldn't send the network a dozen different interpretations of Mr. Spock," he said. But he may have improved a lot of them.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM (rpbg1)

147 Trunalimunumaprzure in the way of the future !

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM (zr5Kq)

148 Also, another example of how "feminists" actually hate real women.

It wasn't Men's Rights activists who got the show canceled. Celebrate another win, ladies. You just Unpersoned a pivotal figure in "Herstory."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)

C.S.Lewis makes the point in The Abolition of Man "the Conditioners" do not see other people as humans but as artifacts to molded into conformity in the effort to make a new society. This is a cogent book but a bit of dense reading; fortunately, it is quite short so re-reading is not a huge chore.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 01, 2020 10:58 AM (pJWtt)

149 Dahl wrote some really creepy short stories, particularly one about a thoroughly twisted wine expert who set up a bet to enslave a young daughter of an acquaintance. I needed lysol and a steel brush after that one.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020

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Try his "The Sound Machine." The first time you read it, you think that maybe the guy really has developed a way to listen to the sounds plants and trees make. The second time, you wonder. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:59 AM (rpbg1)

150 106 William S. Burroughs was a very good author, if you have a high tolerance for drug-fueled romps with dusky lads. "Cities of the Red Night" was like an opium nightmare.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 10:44 AM (Dc2NZ)

Hunter Thompson was drug fuelled as well but I seem to recall finding his writing readable.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at November 01, 2020 10:59 AM (GwFQt)

151 You know FL is over when ABC has Trump +2.

Posted by: Ha at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM (FHHuk)

But they have Joey B up 7 in PA. I wonder if they're counting in all of the voter fraud.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 01, 2020 10:59 AM (Mb+R9)

152 Dave in Fla, it's good to see data attached to my hopes and dreams for Tuesday.

Months ago, I purchased a set of TRUMP mugs with which to toast the 2020 Victory Celebration.

Four years ago, I served as an election judge, so I didn't get home until well after 11pm that night. Fixed a snack and sat down to watch the returns. Watched as the various talking heads ignored the data that the "numbers" guys were giving them. It actually became funny to watch the know-it-alls ignore what the "numbers" guys were practically shouting.

Complicated business.

Posted by: Boots at November 01, 2020 10:59 AM (oGBso)

153 You know FL is over when ABC has Trump +2.

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Oh fuck these people. Are they seriously going to scramble to get accurate polling so they can point to one day of polling to say how accurate they were and have us ignore the last 1.5 fucking years of poll gaslighting? AGAIN?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:00 AM (8YFRI)

154 I think you are forgetting their biggest contribution: finger snapping at poetry readings.
Posted by: pep at November 01, 2020 10:26 AM (v16oJ)

When I hear that, I always think of an episode of the Beverly Hillbillies, where Jethro decides to become a Beat Poet. He reads complete nonsense "poetry" while his followers sit around him and snap. Probably a more honest depiction of that crowd than any other!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:00 AM (V2Yro)

155 Arthur lp kicks ass.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:00 AM (qiqGr)

156 Today, Trump is giving speeches in Michigan, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida.

Biden is making four appearances in Philadelphia, twenty-five miles from his house.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:00 AM (I2/tG)

157 Still going through "Farewell, My Lovely" after a detour through '60s Marvel with a collection of the Sub-Mariner's adventures in Tales to Astonish. I got it from the library because Gene Colan (under the name Adam Austin) was the artist, but Colan had yet to develop his style. Average.

Back to "Farewell": Now Phillip Marlowe is mixed up in two killings, apparently with no connection. We shall see.

I'm reminded of a line from the Saint novella "The Melancholy Journey of Mr. Teal":

"Thus Frankie Horner enters the narrative and departs, and two men have been killed in the first four pages, which is good going."

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Regarding the lawyer in Wyoming story, I'm always irritated when someone says of a local small-scale tragedy, "Nothing like this has ever happened in our small town." I contend that oh yes it has, it just happened to be long ago on the other side of the tracks with "those people."

I don't base this opinion on any study of history, just a gut feeling. Human nature never changes.

Posted by: Weak Geek at November 01, 2020 11:00 AM (u/nim)

158
I don't see any path for Biden to win Florida right now, given the votes that are already cast.

I'll recheck all of this tomorrow once we have the final early votes for Florida.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 10:53 AM (5p7BC)

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I don't think Biden does, either. Florida is more important than Michigan, and if he thought he could hold it, he'd be camped out there with Harris.

The fact that he's mounting rearguard actions in MN tells a lot.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:00 AM (cfSRQ)

159 PA is slipping.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:01 AM (zr5Kq)

160 We have to make Dave in fla promise us he won't go off the deep end like that decision desk guy.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:01 AM (AwPyG)

161 That fuck Wallace on now. Lets see how he tries to fuck us one last time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:01 AM (85Gof)

162 Any good books on the Middle Ages up to the Renaissance period?

Posted by: dantesed at November 01, 2020 11:01 AM (88xKn)

163 Made the mistake of glancing at the used toilet paper that is The Atlantic.

They said Trump won't pull another upset because the polls have changed its methodology and is more accurate than ever. And also Trump is running on his record, which is a complete failure, something that has not gone unnoticed and that he will soon be punished for.

Somebody's living in a bubble.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:02 AM (8YFRI)

164 Laudamus Dominus Jesus Christus

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2020 11:02 AM (BvKrx)

165 I'm looking at the RightSide feed for Washington, MI and the wind is really frisky. But the Golden Scalpweasel will endure the elements!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 11:02 AM (Dc2NZ)

166 The only beatnik I liked was Maynard G Krebs.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at November 01, 2020 11:02 AM (GwFQt)

167 Dave in Fla, I set up that gmail account so we can chat re that project I mentioned. It's hierominousb at the gmail. Drop me a line when or if you like!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 01, 2020 11:02 AM (YqED9)

168 Faux showing bullshit polls

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:03 AM (85Gof)

169 @154
Remember in White Christmas, they did a very funny send-up of the beat craze. there couldn't be a bigger contrast between what the left thought was cool, and old fashioned entertainment.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:03 AM (AwPyG)

170 roddenberry was a new frontiers liberal, out of step with the times, perhaps that's why trek was cancelled by 1969, of course he was a bircher compared to the show runners of next generation, deep space nine by contrast, was more gritty in the understanding of human behavior,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 11:03 AM (hMlTh)

171 162
Any good books on the Middle Ages up to the Renaissance period?
I recommend Cantor's The Civilization of the Middle Ages".

https://tinyurl.com/y6qrmsxr

Posted by: pep at November 01, 2020 11:04 AM (v16oJ)

172 My fun trash read this week was “The Fold” by Peter Clines. Scientists are tampering in God’s domain and things go awry!

Mike Erikson, a man blessed/cursed with an eidetic memory, is asked by his friend at the DoD to investigate what’s going on in a secret lab that claims to have successfully figured out teleportation. Turns out it’s not breaking down and reassembling the subject; that proved disastrous. Instead, they create a fold in space and the person merely walks through a portal to the new location. The team has experimented extensively, even going back and forth through the portal themselves, with no ill effects. Or HAVE they?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at November 01, 2020 11:04 AM (Dc2NZ)

173 Wolfus Aurelius: Hadn't heard that EGR wanted to play Keyes again. That would have been great. They could of done a whole series of movies about his other insurance scam investigations. Like the Thin Man series, but the Little Man.

Posted by: Who knew at November 01, 2020 11:04 AM (SfO/T)

174 Faux showing bullshit polls
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:03 AM (85Gof)

They are going to get it come 11/4 for their BS suppression reportage and their BS suppression polls.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (zr5Kq)

175 Somebody's living in a bubble.

Laurene Powell Jobs apparently exercises very strong editorial control over the Atlantic.

At this point, the Atlantic is just a vanity publisher for Jobs' political views.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (I2/tG)

176 I read Nancy Milford's biography of Zelda Fitzgerald when I was in my teens or twenties (1970s) and liked it very much. I reread it about five years ago and it utterly depressed me. It's possible that Zelda could have had a constructive life if she'd married someone else because it's clear that she and Scott were damaging influences on each other. But I have to think her mental illness would have doomed her regardless.

A very interesting character but certainly no heroine...except to self-destructive, hating feminists.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (fTtFy)

177 So I married an axe murderer had a funny beat poetry scene.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (qiqGr)

178 @171
A Distant Mirror, by Barbara Tuchman. Someone else here recommended it.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (AwPyG)

179 Honestly faux is now no better than the rest of the msm. Yeah individual broadcasters are ok, but he editorial approach has gone over to the dark side..fuck the Murdoch kids, Wallace, Ryan, and the rest

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (85Gof)

180 Entire Trump family is out campaigning.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (zr5Kq)

181 ...I consider book reading to be euphuistic

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I consider myself to have a fairly good working vocabulary, but euphuistic is a word I don't believe I have ever encountered. I looked up the meaning, and upon due consideration have placed it in my "Not Part of My Working Vocabulary and Soon To Be Forgotten" file

Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 11:06 AM (Fc5rx)

182 Over 92 million votes in.

Posted by: Ha at November 01, 2020 11:06 AM (FHHuk)

183 @154
Remember in White Christmas, they did a very funny send-up of the beat craze. there couldn't be a bigger contrast between what the left thought was cool, and old fashioned entertainment.
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:03 AM (AwPyG)

Mom loved that movie. I have some good childhood memories watching it with her. I still have a fondness for the movie.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at November 01, 2020 11:06 AM (pJWtt)

184 Don't blow the margins! [CBD]

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 11:06 AM (PiwSw)

185 Call Badakathcare if you haveTrunalimunumaprzure lasting more than 3 days.

Posted by: Towne Drunke at November 01, 2020 11:06 AM (slrRB)

186 I wish that there was a business that specialized in tracking down missing books from your youth.
I have one that I have never been able to find despite years of searching. A kid who loves flying, runs away from home and builds his dream tree house that includes a take-off and landing deck for his glider. His schoolmates and friends decide to run away too and he builds them houses based on their characteristics and preferences.

It was kind of a dreamy unrealistic premise for a young audience but cool artwork and lots of fun.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 01, 2020 11:07 AM (3P/5p)

187 Thrift Books is cheap but slooooooow.
Posted by: CN

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I ordered Tailspin: The Strange Case of Major Call the other day. I first became aware of Major Call when he was named as a suspect in the "The Fugitive" murder of Marilyn Sheppard. Apparently, he was an heroic Air Force who went crazy when his wife died and became a burglar and murderer. I hope it comes soon.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 01, 2020 11:07 AM (+y/Ru)

188 PA is slipping.

Posted by: runner

Call MA !

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 11:07 AM (arJlL)

189 Here in Wisconsin, it's going to be close. In Kenosha, where I live, I see lots of Biden signs in town, but the rural areas, most signs are for Trump. The signs I do see in town are for Crystal, the Republican candidate for assemblyman in the state legislature, who's running against a long-time Democratic hack. Most of the candidates for county offices are Democrats running unopposed - it's that kind of county. However, Trump narrowly won the county in 2016, and the riots did nothing to improve matters for the Democrats. So, we shall see.
As for books, my wife (the lovely and gracious Annalucia) and I are about 2/3rds through "Abe", the new biography of Abraham Lincoln by David Reynolds, who's a historian of 19th-century American culture. As is usual with history books these days, the author insists on projecting contemporary political labels onto the past; for example, being anti-slavery is "progressive", being pro-slavery is "conservative". The author ignores the fact that Lincoln (as the author himself points out many times) based his opposition to slavery on the words and intententions of the Founders, whom he believed intended to put slavery on the path to eventual extinction, which would make Lincoln an "originalist" and therefore a conservative by today's standards; nor does the author take note of the fact that "progressive" thought in American was, through the early 20th century, deeply racist: the "science" of race and eugenics being settled, in their minds. Also, like Doris Kerns Goodwin in "Team of Rivals", he interprets every action that Lincoln took as a sign of his deep grasp of the situation, when to even the casual reader, it's clear that Lincoln often was feeling his way through an extremely difficult situation, and that his actions and positions often were the result of a process of thought rather than the evidence of some deep master plan. Still, if you can put up with this nonsense, it's a pretty good book. More to the point, the author attempts to put Lincoln's life and works in the context of 19th-century popular culture, which is an approach I'd not seen before. I'd give it 2-1/2 stars out of four.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 01, 2020 11:07 AM (S6ArX)

190 @183
White Christmas is Hollywood at its peak. Wonderful song and dance, boy gets girl in the end. So much fun, and Bing and Danny Kaye, too.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:08 AM (AwPyG)

191 159 Please elaborate.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at November 01, 2020 11:09 AM (4q3U3)

192 Today, Trump is giving speeches in Michigan, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida.

Biden is making four appearances in Philadelphia, twenty-five miles from his house.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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That is a mistake. He is going to lose from his bleeding in Lackawanna, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh. If he only campaigns in Philly, he won't get enough votes.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:10 AM (5p7BC)

193 191 159 Please elaborate.
Posted by: PA Dutchman at November 01, 2020 11:09 AM (4q3U3)

Banana peels in Philly and Harrisburg.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 11:10 AM (PiwSw)

194 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 01, 2020 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

195 HAPPY NEW MONTH!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 01, 2020 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

196
I am in the process of wrapping up reading "The Assistant", third and last of a three works' volume of novels by Bernard Malamud. I enjoyed this one best of the three ("The Natural" and "The Fixer" were the other two). It is at heart a love story between a gentile man and a jewish girl, a potential union viewed with dread bybthe girl's

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:11 AM (pNxlR)

197 The Zelazny book is A Night in the Lonesome October said to be his last book.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice)

Thanks, Sharon. I've read all of Zelazny through his Amber series, multiple times, but hadn't heard of that one. I'll see if the library has it.

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 01, 2020 11:11 AM (YqED9)

198 Whoever thought of pairing Bowie and Bing was a genius.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:11 AM (qiqGr)

199 Dave in Fla, I set up that gmail account so we can chat re that project I mentioned. It's hierominousb at the gmail. Drop me a line when or if you like!
Posted by: Hierominous Botch
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Got it!

I'll shoot you an email tomorrow from my work email.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:11 AM (5p7BC)

200 A very interesting character but certainly no heroine...except to self-destructive, hating feminists.
Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (fTtFy)

I think the pair of them are fascinating. Neither was helped by their drinking, to be sure, but they were interesting together and separately. It's always amused me that Scott frequently marries off the Zelda-based character to a more stable man and she does better as a result. He agrees with you.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

201 I just finished listening to the Audible book Andrea Vernon and the Corporation of Ultrahuman Protection by Alexander C Kane.
It's a fluffy, amusing superhero romp.
It was an enjoyable listen with a small government slant.
My favorite superhero was called Inspector Well Actually who was brilliant at deductive reasoning but could only function by contradicting a statement by someone else.
"That space seems harmless. "
"Well actually..."

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at November 01, 2020 11:11 AM (GwFQt)

202 *drags deep on cigarette*

*exhales*

Was it good for you too?

Posted by: The Margins at November 01, 2020 11:12 AM (Zz0t1)

203 @193
Maybe Pennsylvania has fallen and it can't get up

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:12 AM (AwPyG)

204 Thanks for always for the book thread.

As a Canuck, I'm guessing all of books about freedom and conservative thought have been gathered up and disposed of in an environmentally friendly manner.

Anyways, is there a master list of moron authors and their works?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 11:12 AM (v2c9/)

205 mother.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:12 AM (pNxlR)

206 Field report from NJ:

Spotted very large Trump car caravan heading east on 80.

Looks like liberty is back on the menus boys.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 01, 2020 11:12 AM (tW1lH)

207 74...I think the contrast between the two conventions this summer illustrated this. Biden's was a joke, looking like the AV Club did it. Trump's was slick, professional, perfectly-crafted.

Much of Hollywood's reputation for craftmanship comes not from the A-list actors and directors, but from the production crews, and it seems these are voting with their feet.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (cfSRQ)

Which I thought was weird, because I thought all of the A-list Hollywood talent was Dem, so why did their convention look like amateur hour?

Also, I'm curious as to what recent religious-themed movies do you think are good? I could always use suggestions.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:12 AM (yyr7Q)

208 I'm hoping to see the meltdown at FOX when Donnie 2 Scoops is voted in beyond the margin of fraud. Many of them won't be able to keep the masks on.

Posted by: Fortcoins at November 01, 2020 11:13 AM (nV60k)

209 That is a mistake. He is going to lose from his bleeding in Lackawanna, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh. If he only campaigns in Philly, he won't get enough votes.

Joe has been campaigning for several consecutive days without his usual multi-day breaks - he's not physically or mentally capable of traveling, even to someplace as close as Harrisburg.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:13 AM (I2/tG)

210 So, when Reacher was woke, did he give the bad guys a stern talking-to, instead of beating the shit out of them ?

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 11:13 AM (arJlL)

211 I think the contrast between the two conventions this summer illustrated this. Biden's was a joke, looking like the AV Club did it. Trump's was slick, professional, perfectly-crafted.

Much of Hollywood's reputation for craftmanship comes not from the A-list actors and directors, but from the production crews, and it seems these are voting with their feet.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (cfSRQ)

Soviet Era art had much the same problem, after Eisenstein died. It's very difficult to attract any real talent when the prime requirement for any job is Absolute Ideological Purity. Today, most left wing productions turn out like Birdemic. For those who haven't seen it, it is not only bad, but there are 3 points during the movie where all action and plot comes to a complete stop, and some character lectures the audience about the Evils of Global Warming.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:13 AM (V2Yro)

212 Hunter Thompson was drug fuelled as well but I seem to recall finding his writing readable.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at November 01, 2020 10:59 AM (GwFQt)

I read his book on the Hell's Angels when it first came out and way before he did his Fear and Loathing stuff for Rolling Stone. Iirc it was a pretty straight accounting of how he got friendly with some of them until he got stomped near the end. The Rolling Stones using them for security at the Altamont concert, which happened long after the book, was really fucking stupid.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 11:13 AM (y7DUB)

213
Joe has been campaigning for several consecutive days without his usual multi-day breaks - he's not physically or mentally capable of traveling, even to someplace as close as Harrisburg.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:13 AM (I2/tG)

His handlers are killing him. They know it, and they don't care.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:14 AM (V2Yro)

214 Trump supporters are such happy people!

https://tinyurl.com/y528h4bp

There's also a video above this one...but I'm sure the morons will like this one best.

Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 11:14 AM (cF8AT)

215 Margaret Dumont: "Biden and Harris were sent by God."

Groucho Marx: "Why? Was he out of locusts"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at November 01, 2020 11:14 AM (HaL55)

216 @208, Yes, at Fox Chris Wallace most of all.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2020 11:15 AM (9TdxA)

217 Our neighbor (Church Lady type, Fox News fan, pro-Trump) announced yesterday that she was depressed. When we asked why she said "...that one blonde lady on Fox had on a professor who has predicted the outcome of the last eight presidential elections correctly and he said there was no way Trump would win."

After giving her some suggestions on how to look at polls, pollsters, narratives; never mind that there are things in life we can control and things we can't, I pointed out that ESPN had a gorilla that had picked the Super Bowl winner correctly 10 years in a row.

Also suggested that she should work on her Plan "B" game.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 11:15 AM (Fc5rx)

218 Grateful Dead had a hand in Altamont as well.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:15 AM (qiqGr)

219 Made the mistake of glancing at the used toilet paper that is The Atlantic.

It's amazing how wokeism has killed the middle-brow political/literary magazines, which had existed for decades and decades.

I grew up reading the Atlantic, New Republic, and Harper's every issue.

Now, the Atlantic and the New Republic are pathetic jokes, and I can't remember the last time someone referenced something in Harpers.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:16 AM (I2/tG)

220 Well, at least Parliame
nt's library doesn't have a section filled with romance novels.

I think.

Maybe.

Perhaps.

And I am not going to use my Canadian passport to find out.

Posted by: Vendette at November 01, 2020 11:16 AM (NYuai)

221 I agree. "The Chosen", for instance. Season One was excellent. Season Two is in production. Very well done.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 01, 2020 10:34 AM (gm3d+)

I wanted to like 'The Chosen' but gave up after 3 episodes. The acting, dialog and mannerisms of the actors all felt like 21st century. It's like they weren't even *trying* to authentically enact ancient biblical times. Maybe that was their intention. I don't know. I found it very off-putting.

But a lot of people I know liked it, so maybe I'm the oddball.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:17 AM (yyr7Q)

222 170
roddenberry was a new frontiers liberal, out of step with the times,
perhaps that's why trek was cancelled by 1969, of course he was a
bircher compared to the show runners of next generation, deep space nine
by contrast, was more gritty in the understanding of human behavior,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at November 01, 2020 11:03 AM (hMlTh)

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I watched very little of DS9, but I understand the show was pushed hard by the very dark Babylon 5, which pulled no punches regarding human nature.

It was really a total smack down of Star Trek's utopianism, particularly the idea that 'psychics' would be entirely benign and helpful.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:17 AM (cfSRQ)

223 @211
Another problem Hollywood has is the nepotism. Hardly anyone gets a job based on their own merit, anymore, even though the connections aren't always obvious.
It's the same with publishing--you'd be surprised how many people have a job because a parent was involved in the industry.

So then you wind up with the Biden situation, where the best and brightest are not running the show.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:17 AM (AwPyG)

224 They said Trump won't pull another upset because the polls have changed its methodology and is more accurate than ever.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles
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*snort*

No one changed any methodology, and if they did how do they know they are more accurate than ever? They've not been used in an actual election yet.

Just as likely that the "new methodologies" are worse and what is contributing to how ridiculous they are.

How anyone can look at a poll that says Biden will win in landslide bigger than Reagan in 1984, and think that makes sense, is beyond me.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:17 AM (5p7BC)

225 thanks for including the antifa book, OM

what I got from skimming it was his dad set him straight eventually

Posted by: vmom review - Behind the Black Mask: My Time as an Antifa Activist at November 01, 2020 11:18 AM (nUhF0)

226 Sure would like to see the evidence backing up the blamket statement "PA is slipping".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:18 AM (EgshT)

227 I very rarely get triggered by anything or anyone, but that hit my last nerve.

-
The Karen Kucks Klan.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 01, 2020 11:18 AM (+y/Ru)

228 blanket...I'm slipping onto Sundowner-speak

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:19 AM (EgshT)

229 Critical Drinker also does a vid series he calls "The Drinker Fixes," where he takes a character (more often than not from Star Wars) and runs through a number of ways the character could have been improved over whatever mess they actually made.

His most recent video is "The Drinker Fixes Finn."

Now, I was never much of a Star Wars fan, and I've watched none of the films since Send In the Clones (the second prequel). However, it's impossible to follow pop culture at all without Star Wars showing up pretty much everywhere, so it feels like I've watched all these movies.

So when he takes on Finn, he's basically trying to re-write a huge chunk of The Last Jedi. And fix it he does. I'm listening to him describe the acts of heroism Finn MIGHT have been able to pull off, that would have been more in line with his character, would have made the story not only tighter, but more meaningful, and somehow, someway, Drinker is able to give Rose Tico a role that is not only more human, but also touching. I literally started misting up as he described it.

Like I said, I'm not a Star Wars fan, and this guy... Will Jordan or the drunk Scot or whatever want to call him, knows how to tell a story.

Haven't read any of his books yet, but I intend to.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:19 AM (hku12)

230 It's amazing how wokeism has killed the middle-brow political/literary magazines, which had existed for decades and decades.

I grew up reading the Atlantic, New Republic, and Harper's every issue.
Now, the Atlantic and the New Republic are pathetic jokes, and I can't remember the last time someone referenced something in Harpers.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:16 AM (I2/tG)

I wonder how long it's going to take for people to figure out how toxic 'wokeism' is to literature, theater, and, in fact, all of the creative arts.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:19 AM (yyr7Q)

231 Also, I'm curious as to what recent religious-themed movies do you think are good? I could always use suggestions.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:12 AM (yyr7Q)

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"Risen" is outstanding, and I much prefer it to Gibson's gorefest Passion.

There's a Catholic outfit called "Formed" that has a film company. Some of their productions are quite good.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:20 AM (cfSRQ)

232 Slipping from going for PDT?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:20 AM (qiqGr)

233 White House: Unacceptable Dr. Anthony Fauci Playing Politics Three Days Before Election

Day after elections PDT should shit can this cock and wrey also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:20 AM (85Gof)

234 @221
In the historical industry this is always a raging controversy--how much do you "modernize" the story for the audience?
The purists hate any modernization, but then you will probably lose a lot of audience. (think about doing The Canterbury Tales in Middle English)
But Mel Gibson pulled it off pretty well in The Passion of the Christ.
Opinions run the gamut

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:21 AM (AwPyG)

235 I looked up the meaning, and upon due consideration have placed it in my "Not Part of My Working Vocabulary and Soon To Be Forgotten" file

************

How cockalorum of you. :-P

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:21 AM (8YFRI)

236 I agree. "The Chosen", for instance. Season One was excellent. Season Two is in production. Very well done.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 01, 2020 10:34 AM (gm3d+)

I loved The Chosen, watched the whole series twice now. I thought it was really well done, looking forward to season two.

Posted by: spypeach at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (Up/Jb)

237 So then you wind up with the Biden situation, where the best and brightest are not running the show.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:17 AM (AwPyG)

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Joss Whedon is third generation Hollywood.

And it shows.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (cfSRQ)

238 White House: Unacceptable Dr. Anthony Fauci Playing Politics Three Days Before Election

Uh...we're they expecting something otherwise? Sheesh.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (EgshT)

239 Slipping from going for PDT?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:20 AM (qiqGr)

No from sundown

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (85Gof)

240 Day after elections PDT should shit can this cock and wrey also

******************

C'mon man, don't get short with Fauci.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (8YFRI)

241 Serious question, because I don't know. Is there any reason to think that Paul Ryan, as a board member at Fox has any substantial input into operational matters or on-air content?

I my experience with hospitals, the Board consists of (relatively) high-profile local folks who show up once a month for a canned presentation from the corporate officers and give the Good Housekeeping fig leaf of "oversight" approval, but really don't drive policy. Sort of a resumé enhancing position but ultimately just a rubber stamp.

Not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (Fc5rx)

242 Ooo, what kind of bird do you have there?

She's a Thumb-bird.

She's very small. Does she chirp a lot?

She's always running her beak about something.

What's her name?

Greta.

Posted by: fly at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (yv6t0)

243 Fauci is mr, majestyk

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (qiqGr)

244 Soviet Era art had much the same problem, after Eisenstein died. It's very difficult to attract any real talent when the prime requirement for any job is Absolute Ideological Purity.

There were many, many excellent Soviet movies - the Party acknowledged the need to entertain the masses.

Leonid Gaidai directed a number of excellent comedies in the 60s and 70s, which were the most popular movies in the history of the USSR.

One of them centered around a corrupt Party official in the Caucasus - the Party cultural apparatchiks were terrified by the subject matter and wanted to ban it, but Leonid Brezhnev saw the movie and thought that it was hilarious.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (I2/tG)

245 Sure would like to see the evidence backing up the blamket statement "PA is slipping".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:18 AM (EgshT)

Mr. Bill voice: Nooooooo!

Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 11:23 AM (AwYPR)

246 Field report from NJ:

Spotted very large Trump car caravan heading east on 80.

Looks like liberty is back on the menus boys.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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One of the coolest things about this year is people in states that everyone knows Trump will lose are still out supporting him. I saw video from the Beverly Hills parade yesterday, and it was huge and enthusiastic.

We had none of this in 2016.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:23 AM (5p7BC)

247 Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020

10-4!

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at November 01, 2020 11:23 AM (YqED9)

248 bacon, eggs, biscuits and OJ (the beverage; NOT the murderer)

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (arJlL)

249 Grateful Dead had a hand in Altamont as well.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:15 AM (qiqGr)

I'm sure if you were in a band like they were, particularly using a lot of drugs, in that location you were pretty much forced to figure out a working relationship with the Hell's Angels.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (y7DUB)

250 Forbes website posts a link to this video and says that Trump supporters rammed into a white SUV protecting the Biden / Harris bus as it drove through Texas:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1321581060761788417

Yeah, no.

And the headline reads "Trump Praises Drivers That Biden Campaign Says Tried To Run Bus 'Off The Road'"

Posted by: The Margins at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

251 No from sundown

Okay. Didn't see any context.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (EgshT)

252 Do I dare start believing and hoping things will turn out ok on Tuesday? I'm taking the end of the week off for birthday and general burn out.

Posted by: InCali at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (9AFWN)

253 Off blown sock.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (Zz0t1)

254 Day after elections PDT should shit can this cock and wrey also
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:20 AM (85Gof)

And Barr, who's been another Sessions, and was a big Time Warner man.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (ONvIw)

255 @231
"Jesus of Nazareth" was from the 70s, but it holds up pretty well, I think, and the actors do a good job. I especially like the "Visitation" scene (the angel visits Mary) Really well done, and not what you are expecting.

There's always the problem of deciding which Gospel to follow, but I think they followed Luke's.
And Ben Hur, is a good one.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:25 AM (AwPyG)

256 No from sundown

Okay. Didn't see any context.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:24 AM (EgshT)

The headline is from Breitbart or weasel zippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:25 AM (85Gof)

257 Forbes website posts a link to this video and says that Trump supporters rammed into a white SUV protecting the Biden / Harris bus as it drove through Texas:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1321581060761788417

Yeah, no.

*******************

Don't believe your lying eyes.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:25 AM (8YFRI)

258 A Distant Mirror, by Barbara Tuchman. Someone else here recommended it.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:05 AM (AwPyG)

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It is very readable, but flawed.

Tuchman is such a 70s feminist that she can't help but provide annoying commentary about how sexist society was and that if only women were treated as equals things would have been so much better.

That she writes this while chronicling constant WARFARE is just a bit much.

She also lets her Yankee Protestant side show in discussing the Catholic Church, which has no place in a work of history.

There are some very good chapters at the beginning, but she at times gives into her "I'm so much smarter than all these dumb people" schtick.

I did not keep my copy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:25 AM (cfSRQ)

259 So what am I reading. Or, more to the point, what am I reading?

Well, I just finished Ever After by Kim Harrison, book 11 (of 15! Ye gods!) in "The Hollows" series. It's urban fantasy. Rachel Morgan, the sexy witch who is actually a demon, saves the day yet again. It's starting to pall, so I'm probably not going to get book 12. Not right away, anyway. Reading these books is like eating peanuts. Once you start, it's tough to know when to stop, so you tend to overindulge.

I'm reading Richard Bach's Stranger to the Ground which I first read as a "Reader's Digest Condensed Book" as part of the collection in my high school's library. (I also remember reading On High Steel ~ The Education of an Ironworker and Report from Engine Company 82 out of the same collection.) I bought it for Kindle even though I have it in hardcover, that edition of which Amazon has listed for $864 per copy. (Ye gods! Again!) This book really salves my aviation soul and I've read it dozens of times and I'm enjoying it once more.

It looks like the book group that's been virtual for the last few months may have a face to face meeting this month, so I should probably read some of the books I borrowed from one of the other members. I think I only have a couple of "Mage World" books left in the series, so maybe I'll start that one.

I'm also reading my usual technical stuff. A guide to the NanoVNA is interesting, but doesn't seem to describe the NanoVNA device I bought. Alas. Maybe if I update the firmwre....

I'm still listening to The Peloponnesian War by Donald Kagan because I got a copy of Hanson's A War Like No Other and it was recommended in these august pages that it was easier to understand the latter, if you had read the former. I mostly listen while I'm walking for exercise and I've been sorely lacking in that activity lately, so the going has been slow.

And that's it from the Cyberforge. We have a groups.io group! If you aren't in the groups.io group, but would like to be, send me an email (link in nick) and I'll hook you up.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 01, 2020 11:25 AM (qDSku)

260 Also coming from the video world, Mark Dice put out a video yesterday saying Amazon banned his latest book.

He sounded really discouraged, and that's not how Mark comes off most of the time. Apparently the "problem" with the book isn't the content, it's the cover.

He has the word "Hollywood" in the title, and the font he uses is basically the same as the Hollywood sign. Which is trademarked.

Lots of questions about fair use and all that, but someone decided this book was trouble, and Amazon was apparently happy to oblige.

He says he doesn't know what he will do next, but the effort to censor is strong today, getting stronger. In lots of places.

Speaking of Amazon, I tried to go to Jet.com to order something yesterday. The URL now redirects to Walmart.

Great. Now there are only two mass market online sellers.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:26 AM (hku12)

261 When they took my friend away.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:26 AM (qiqGr)

262 162 Any good books on the Middle Ages up to the Renaissance period?
Posted by: dantesed at November 01, 2020 11:01 AM (88xKn)

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Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror is a great read on the Middle Ages. She did a clever thing by covering the gamut of interesting medieval topics in the context of one family of minor nobility in France. It makes for a very engaging story.

Here's the Amazon blurb:

In this sweeping historical narrative, Barbara Tuchman writes of the cataclysmic 14th century, when the energies of medieval Europe were devoted to fighting internecine wars and warding off the plague. Some medieval thinkers viewed these disasters as divine punishment for mortal wrongs; others, more practically, viewed them as opportunities to accumulate wealth and power. One of the latter, whose life informs much of Tuchman's book, was the French nobleman Enguerrand de Coucy, who enjoyed the opulence and elegance of the courtly tradition while ruthlessly exploiting the peasants under his thrall. Tuchman looks into such events as the Hundred Years War, the collapse of the medieval church, and the rise of various heresies, pogroms, and other events that caused medieval Europeans to wonder what they had done to deserve such horrors.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 01, 2020 11:26 AM (wPVhA)

263
I wonder how long it's going to take for people to figure out how toxic 'wokeism' is to literature, theater, and, in fact, all of the creative arts.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:19 AM (yyr7Q)

A lot of people love it, it helps them virtue signal more easily

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:26 AM (ONvIw)

264 Sure would like to see the evidence backing up the blamket statement "PA is slipping".
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:18 AM (EgshT)

From Democrats you all. CHILL !

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:26 AM (zr5Kq)

265 81 Ah, that dashing exemplar of Scottish wit, the Drinker. I've been a Patron of his for over a year now, I was lucky enough to stumble over his drunken rants soon after he started his YT channel. My wife and I constantly use his sarcastic stock-phrase "Naww, it'll be fine!" Highly recommend his reviews, very entertaining and well-edited videos.
Posted by: Pave Low John at November 01, 2020 10:34 AM (+KIcz)

"Go away now!"

Love the Drinker.

Posted by: Sir Ian Botham. at November 01, 2020 11:26 AM (oaWXk)

266 I will add that there is a certain irony to reaching Tuchman's feminist/protestant triumphalist take that didn't even last 40 years.

Liberals' "End of History" was astonishingly brief, wasn't it?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:27 AM (cfSRQ)

267 From Democrats you all. CHILL !

I be chilled now.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:27 AM (EgshT)

268 >>> 213
Joe has been campaigning for several consecutive days without his usual multi-day breaks - he's not physically or mentally capable of traveling, even to someplace as close as Harrisburg.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:13 AM (I2/tG)

His handlers are killing him. They know it, and they don't care.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:14 AM (V2Yro)

Ima be FLOTUS dammit!!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at November 01, 2020 11:27 AM (/kh7m)

269 When SNL is making fun of polls...and Nate Silver specifically...you know that they know that they don't know...

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:28 AM (zr5Kq)

270 We have to make Dave in fla promise us he won't go off the deep end like that decision desk guy.
Posted by: artemis
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No worries about that. Once this election is decided, I will slip back into unremarkable lurker status

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:28 AM (5p7BC)

271 Sure would like to see the evidence backing up the blamket statement "PA is slipping".
Posted by: Notorious BFD

*************'

One anecdote is that 75% of black voters in Philly have yet to turn out.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:28 AM (8YFRI)

272 Ima be FLOTUS dammit!!
Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at November 01, 2020 11:27 AM (/kh7m)

Ima be shadow president...again

Posted by: ValJar at November 01, 2020 11:28 AM (ONvIw)

273 Serious question, because I don't know. Is there any reason to think that Paul Ryan, as a board member at Fox has any substantial input into operational matters or on-air content?

I view his presence as symbolic of the network's shift without any direct input, despite my dogmatic rants blaming him for everything.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 11:29 AM (y7DUB)

274 Okay, gotta get going. TTFN!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:29 AM (cfSRQ)

275 One anecdote is that 75% of black voters in Philly have yet to turn out.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:28 AM (8YFRI)

Well when there is a looting opertunity.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:29 AM (85Gof)

276 Sure would like to see the evidence backing up the blamket statement "PA is slipping".
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:18 AM (EgshT)

Have they gotten any snow yet? Snow is slippery.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

277 We have to make Dave in fla promise us he won't go off the deep end like that decision desk guy.

***********

Unless Dave in FA's dick falls off and he turns full NeverTrumper smellfungus like CAC, I project a solid no on that.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:30 AM (8YFRI)

278 @241
I imagine Ryan "runs" Fox the same way the Obamas "run" Netflix--not at all. They were rewarded with cushy no-show jobs, while the real powers are unnamed people in the shadows. As Trump has said, the real bad guys are rich people you've never heard of.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:30 AM (AwPyG)

279 WAR shows are always good times.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:30 AM (qiqGr)

280 Can I just insert here how much I admire Steve Allen ? His wit, his intellect, his ...je ne sais quoi .

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:31 AM (zr5Kq)

281 Unless Dave in FA's dick falls off and he turns full NeverTrumper smellfungus like CAC, I project a solid no on that.

Once the money and the groupies start pouring in, it's hard not be corrupted.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:31 AM (I2/tG)

282 Have they gotten any snow yet? Snow is slippery.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)

Is Trunalimunumaprzure slippery? That would explain it.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 11:31 AM (PiwSw)

283 I imagine Ryan "runs" Fox the same way the Obamas "run" Netflix--not at all. They were rewarded with cushy no-show jobs, while the real powers are unnamed people in the shadows. As Trump has said, the real bad guys are rich people you've never heard of.
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:30 AM (AwPyG)

I want to know why these people were rewarded. Sounds like payola upon leaving office.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:32 AM (ONvIw)

284 Sure would like to see the evidence backing up the blamket statement "PA is slipping".
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 11:18 AM (EgshT)

From Democrats you all. CHILL !
Posted by: runner
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But if we need evidence, the Pittsburgh newspaper endorsement, the Trump rally in Butler, and Biden having to campaign in Philly are pretty good indicators.

I think Pennsyatucky told us last night that the population of Butler is 20,000 and there were 30K+ at that rally.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:32 AM (5p7BC)

285 i predict there will be much much much less looting than anyone thinks. I will explain on Wednesday why.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:32 AM (zr5Kq)

286 Okay, gotta get going. TTFN!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloy

TTFN ?

Two Tits Feel Nice ?

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 11:32 AM (arJlL)

287 I had a used book cancelled by an online seller, apparently they sold it and forgot to take the listing down.

I am just starting A Culture of Growth by Joel Mokyr, which is a discussion of Dr. Mokyr's favorite topic, what is modernity and what caused it? Mokyr's thesis is that modernity as we experience it is a transformative shift in thinking and understanding the world that separates the modern world from the European cultures that preceded it, and the period of shift was from the discovery of the Americas through the start of the Industrial Revolution.

I am on the third chapter, and he is talking about what culture is, how it is shared and what sustains it. He calls back to the theories of adaption and evolution, with discussion on whether Darwinian theories or a more modern epigenetic adaption is best fit, and goes into discussion of economic theories as well

The book that didn't get delivered was Clocks and Culture by Carlo M Cipolla, which is a discussion on technical innovation from the Italian Renaissance through the Industrial Revolution, and how technical innovation affects and is effected in return by cultural change.

Oddly enough the book I am reading for pleasure right now is Lest Darkness Fall by L. Sprague deCamp, which is about a 1930's archeologist transported to Rome just before Belisarius's initiation of the Italian conquest which would kick off the Dark ages.

So apparently I am on a sort of kick here.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (WyVLE)

288 85 i predict there will be much much much less looting than anyone thinks. I will explain on Wednesday why.
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:32 AM (zr5Kq)

?? So that order for a smart tv I put in is not looking so good?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (85Gof)

289 So everything I'm reading is pointing to a lower than expected turnout by minorities, and since it's happening across multiple states it seems to be indicative of a trend. Underperforming in blue areas like Miami-Dade, and in NC where ethnicity is reported, underperforming by 3% compared to 2016, underperforming in PA.

I guess a lot of blacks didn't like being told what their skin color was by a white demented idiot?

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (8YFRI)

290 285 i predict there will be much much much less looting than anyone thinks. I will explain on Wednesday why.
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:32 AM (zr5Kq)

Because it is anticipated and inventories are secured off site?

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (ONvIw)

291 Have hope, people; remember that Trump took the unprecedented move of putting the Director of National Intelligence in charge of election security.
Think about why that would be, and also think about the constant news reports about missing ballots, dumped ballots, etc.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (AwPyG)

292 But if we need evidence, the Pittsburgh newspaper endorsement, the Trump rally in Butler, and Biden having to campaign in Philly are pretty good indicators.

I think Pennsyatucky told us last night that the population of Butler is 20,000 and there were 30K+ at that rally.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:32 AM (5p7BC)

Pics of Amish folk going to Trump rally yesterday ? Whoa, dude !

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (zr5Kq)

293 Barbara Tuchman's A Distant Mirror is a great read on the Middle Ages. She did a clever thing by covering the gamut of interesting medieval topics in the context of one family of minor nobility in France. It makes for a very engaging story.

Here's the Amazon blurb:
...
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at November 01, 2020 11:26 AM (wPVhA)

And she's a damn fine writer, which a lot of writers seem to think is a superfluous skillset.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (hku12)

294 Because it is anticipated and inventories are secured off site?
Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (ONvIw)

Nope !

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (zr5Kq)

295 I watched very little of DS9, but I understand the show was pushed hard by the very dark Babylon 5, which pulled no punches regarding human nature.

It was really a total smack down of Star Trek's utopianism, particularly the idea that 'psychics' would be entirely benign and helpful.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 11:17 AM (cfSRQ)

The writer's worked around Roddenberry's vision of utopia by having half of the characters on 'DS9' non-Starfleet.

The Starfleet characters were all part of the perfect utopia, holding hands singing the coke commercial song but they were forced to interact with the other non-Starfleet characters that had their own goals, motives and viewpoints which created drama and conflict that ST - TNG lacked.

They tried to do the same thing in 'Voyager', breaking the crew up into Starfleet and Maquis but after everyone had on the Starfleet uniform for a while, all those divisions melted away.

And Troi's greatest accomplishment in TNG was teaching the writer's what not to do with characters in the future - male or female. All of the other female characters after Troi had something to make them useful around the ship. Even Kes on 'Voyager' grew plants for food and acted as a nurse.

There was no story Troi was involved in that couldn't have been reworked and given to another character. Finally she was left to babysit her mother and in later seasons served as the ship's sperm receptacle. And if the show was a bit later on, even that job could have been Wesley's.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (v2c9/)

296 ?? So that order for a smart tv I put in is not looking so good?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 11:33 AM (85Gof)

Wrong !

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (zr5Kq)

297 294: It is not for nothing that stores are doing that and boarding up ahead of time.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (ONvIw)

298 I'm on the last chapter of Sherman's memoirs.."Indian Wars"...it's been a so-so read.
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 10:08 AM

Which put William Tecumseh Sherman on the Leftist's shit list.

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (OjZpE)

299 I think Pennsyatucky told us last night that the population of Butler is 20,000 and there were 30K+ at that rally.

*********

Secret Service estimated 50,000 (reported by Gorka)

yuge

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (8YFRI)

300 I bet all the fashion magazines that never give our First Lady time of day have copy and photos all ready for her majesty Jill Biden's ascension to the throne. Bitch should go to hell for what she's doing to her husband, as deserving as the no good prick is.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 01, 2020 11:35 AM (I58tH)

301 And Muldoon you crack me up

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 11:35 AM (OjZpE)

302 You all have to wait till Wednesday to find out. Stay tuned to Current Events with runner, and please visit our sponsors !

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 11:35 AM (zr5Kq)

303
His handlers are killing him. They know it, and they don't care.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Kind and lovely people they are!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:35 AM (pNxlR)

304 i predict there will be much much much less looting than anyone thinks. I will explain on Wednesday why.

My theory is that serious rioting and looting can only occur in jurisdictions that have a Soros-backed DA.

Anyplace else, prosecutors will note that rioting, looting, arson, and assaulting police officers are felonies, and will prosecute those crimes accordingly.

My theory will be tested next week.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:35 AM (I2/tG)

305 I'm back. Made the mistake of taking a shower and now it's raining and cold and I can always go to Trader Joe's so farmer's market will have to do without me.
Perfect day for reading and book thread.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 11:36 AM (sd8p8)

306 Turnout. Turnout. Turnout.

Media and polls are even more off than in 2016.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2020 11:36 AM (9TdxA)

307 Unless Dave in FA's dick falls off and he turns full NeverTrumper smellfungus like CAC, I project a solid no on that.
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Once the money and the groupies start pouring in, it's hard not be corrupted.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:31 AM (I2/tG)

CAC was corrupted by telescope lenses and rock art.

Which just goes to show, not everyone can be corrupted by taboo sex and money.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:36 AM (hku12)

308 OM, the dusty bookshop where the little old man is reading: where is that?

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 11:36 AM (EbSTN)

309 300. I don't care what Jill is doing to Joe. They both know that winning is the only way to keep the family fortunes intact and save fellow grifter families. Joe may be losing it, but he wants this as anyone.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:37 AM (ONvIw)

310 223 @211
Another problem Hollywood has is the nepotism. Hardly anyone gets a job based on their own merit, anymore, even though the connections aren't always obvious.
It's the same with publishing--you'd be surprised how many people have a job because a parent was involved in the industry.

So then you wind up with the Biden situation, where the best and brightest are not running the show.
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:17 AM (AwPyG)
_________

Nepotism isn't at all new to Hollywood. Read Wodehouse's stories.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 11:37 AM (7X3UV)

311 Walking doggeh but wanna say Jim Butcher's laterst Dresden book rocks

Posted by: vmom - chump4trump at November 01, 2020 11:37 AM (Rk7NI)

312 Can I just insert here how much I admire Steve Allen ? His wit, his intellect, his ...je ne sais quoi .
Posted by: runner

je ne sais quoi .

That's not how ya spell Jayne Meadows !

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 11:37 AM (arJlL)

313 I don't know why Biden's handlers don't tell him to stop the yelling. It makes him look insane but I think his dying brain could handle slower, more measured speech better.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at November 01, 2020 11:37 AM (GwFQt)

314 They tried to do the same thing in 'Voyager', breaking the crew up into Starfleet and Maquis but after everyone had on the Starfleet uniform for a while, all those divisions melted away.

**********

That's part of why I liked First Contact. It broke down that mirage and confronted the argument that humans experienced utopia because they "evolved" so much since the 21st century, using a character from the "past" to call Picard out on his evolved bullshit.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:37 AM (8YFRI)

315 299 Some ABC affiliate in Pittsburgh reported "hundreds" in Butler. Don't believe the pictures, folks, it's a mirage.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 01, 2020 11:38 AM (I58tH)

316 I imagine Ryan "runs" Fox the same way the Obamas "run" Netflix--not at all. They were rewarded with cushy no-show jobs, while the real powers are unnamed people in the shadows. As Trump has said, the real bad guys are rich people you've never heard of.
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:30 AM (AwPyG)

Every time I think of Gaylord doing anything, it's like the scene in "King of Comedy" where Rupert Pupkin fantasizes about being a talk show host talking to his toadies about finding replacement hosts. In other words it's all about having the trappings of being a celebrity without the slightest clue about a marketable skill by which he can become one.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)

317 Wow, check out all the amazing woodwork in that reading room. All that clear maple.
Good choice.

Posted by: navybrat, contemplatively at November 01, 2020 11:38 AM (w7KSn)

318 And Muldoon you crack me up
Posted by: Skip

******

Thank you?

I think.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

319 There will be lots of rioting in DC, as near to the White House as the rioters can get. The Left are fabulists, you see. Visions of storming the Bastille.

Manhattan too, for media attention.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (9TdxA)

320 If we're making suggestions, Robert Harris' Cicero trilogy ("Imperium", "Conspirata", & " Dictator"). The conceit is it's the memoir of Tiro, Cicero's slave/secretary/aide de camp. Brisk but top notch historical fiction. Recommend Ronald Syme's classic "The Roman Revolution" and, its antithesis "The Last Generation of the Roman Republic" by Erich Green for denser, deeper dives. The subject matter seems relevant.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (evxBY)

321 163 Made the mistake of glancing at the used toilet paper that is The Atlantic.

They said Trump won't pull another upset because the polls have changed its methodology and is more accurate than ever. "

I'm another reader who used to enjoy The Atlantic. No more.

as to that remark about the polls - I've been looking on Lefty and Media sites, and it's really amazing, that's really all they have, and they hang onto it like drowning men grab onto a piece of wood. They don't support it with any reasoning, they just repeat it over and over, like a mantra. It's *exactly* like the Global Warming crowd (which they are all part of!) The Predictions are True because they come from Computers! All Hail Sciency Stuff!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (V2Yro)

322 Why do people riot? They riot when they are frustrated (See: massive protests against the lockdowns going on in Europe and Australia)
Why were there riots this year in america? Who was frustrated? People were employed, Trump was addressing perceived inequalities in the justice system, the economy was booming

The riots this year were contrived. No one was frustrated, except leftist politicians. so I agree-I don't think there will be much unrest. It's all been gaslighting.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (AwPyG)

323 And Muldoon you crack me up
Posted by: Skip

******

Thank you?

I think.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)

You're not a bone doctor, are you?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (hku12)

324
And if the show was a bit later on, even that job could have been Wesley's.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (v2c9/)

At least you'd not have had to listen to him in that case.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (pNxlR)

325 Walking doggeh but wanna say Jim Butcher's laterst Dresden book rocks
Posted by: vmom - chump4trump

Did you ever contact Jack da Roofer ?

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (arJlL)

326 The Zelazny book is A Night in the Lonesome October said to be his last book.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 10:44 AM (sd8p

I just finished October last night. Zelazny never disappoints.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (yyr7Q)

327 Every time Grampa yells he farts. Our family can't take much more of this.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (EgshT)

328 It is not for nothing that stores are doing that and boarding up ahead of time.

Portland Antifa hit a business district east of downtown that hadn't been hit before last night. Lots and lots of nice windows to break, since they hadn't been boarded up.

So, instead of just the businesses downtown and near police stations being fortified, I bet a whole lot of boarding up is going to be going on over the next two days, all across Portland.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (I2/tG)

329 No worries about that. Once this election is decided, I will slip back into unremarkable lurker status
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:28 AM (5p7BC)

Dave, please de-lurk periodically! I like reading your comments.

Posted by: Emmie at November 01, 2020 11:40 AM (4JM5Y)

330 Tuchman's faults in A Distant Mirror are mild by today's standards. It was published in 1978, before political correctness really got rolling. I think it is still a good popular history and worth reading, probably her best book.

Posted by: cool breeze at November 01, 2020 11:40 AM (UGKMd)

331 Manhattan too, for media attention.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (9TdxA)

The barbarians got pretty close to the MMA last outing, if stores aren't available they'll go after museums and churches.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:40 AM (ONvIw)

332 Can we keep DST all year please? I hate the 4:00 darkness that is about to show up.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 11:40 AM (22mNy)

333 Pics of Amish folk going to Trump rally yesterday ? Whoa, dude !

An Amish dad and two of his young boys rode the bus back with us yesterday. A few other Amish and Mennonite families were there.

Butler attendance was apparently estimated by the Secret Service at 57,000. Wow!

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 11:40 AM (fFtVH)

334 I mean, that's basically what Man of Destiny was - a full-on rewrite of the Star Wars prequels. I got tired of explaining how it should have gone and just did it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at November 01, 2020 10:57 AM

Many years ago, Lois McMaster Bujold wrote a novella called "The Borders of Infinity" and then a novel of that title was released. The novella was all about Miles Vokosigan breaking some soldiers out of an interstellar prisoner of war camp, but there were intriguing hings about how the prisoners got into that camp, and I was hoping that the novel would tell the story about what happened at "Fallow Core" before the novella began and the long chase from the camp to earth that other stories hinted at.

Alas, it was not to be. What I got was a collection of three novellas with 1000 words or so of bridging material to make them almost into a single narrative.

Since I still want to read what happened at Fallow Core, I've made two or three attempts to write it myself. Unfortunately, what I had done was destroyed in a hard drive failure a couple of years ago. Someday, I may begin again.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 01, 2020 11:41 AM (qDSku)

335 On advice of Morons With Pants, I got my copy of "Bloodlands" on Tuesday. I'm only fifty pages in, so it's broad strokes and little detail, so far.

But it's remarkably bullshit free, and I really, really like that Snyder doesn't spend a lot of time defending his work from the prevailing approach to this history... He just briefly states that it's wrong and incomplete, and launches into it.

A lot of people have made similar points to the one he's making, but it always takes the form of Fisking the existing historiography, where Snyder just gently criticizes it and then begins making his case.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 01, 2020 11:41 AM (XJipD)

336 Why would I believe a poll that I wouldn't answer? It's not likely to count people like me, is it?

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 11:41 AM (fFtVH)

337 I had given up on Kim Harrison but ended up reading her newest American Demon and liked it a lot.
The one I should never have gone back to was Laurel K Hamilton. She tried to write a real book that was not simply porn and failed miserably.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 11:42 AM (sd8p8)

338 It's *exactly* like the Global Warming crowd

My computer ran 100,000 election scenarios, and Joe Biden won in 92,347 of them!

It's Science!

Posted by: Nate Silver, Soon To Be Humiliated! at November 01, 2020 11:42 AM (I2/tG)

339 >>> And Troi's greatest accomplishment in TNG was teaching the writer's what not to do with characters in the future - male or female. All of the other female characters after Troi had something to make them useful around the ship. Even Kes on 'Voyager' grew plants for food and acted as a nurse.

There was no story Troi was involved in that couldn't have been reworked and given to another character. Finally she was left to babysit her mother and in later seasons served as the ship's sperm receptacle. And if the show was a bit later on, even that job could have been Wesley's.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (v2c9/)

At least 75% of 1701's computer storage had to be devoted just to Reg Barclays holo porn troi collection.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 01, 2020 11:42 AM (l6b3d)

340 My theory on why there will much less looting than feared is that after Tuesday, hard core Dems are gonna be a whole lot more likely to go to the bathroom cabinet and swallow whatever they can find, rather than go outside and act up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (V2Yro)

341 162 Any good books on the Middle Ages up to the Renaissance period?
Posted by: dantesed at November 01, 2020 11:01 AM (88xKn)
_________

I will repeat myself. Absolute #1 on the list is the intro to Lewis's volume on 16th C Lit, "The New Learning and the New Ignorance." The whole volume is well worth reading, of course, as is the rest of what he wrote for his day job. The first one I read was The Discarded Image.

In general, it's a good idea to read opposed takes. And especially to avoid those that adopt the Voltaire-Mel Brooks view. Funny, but zero value for history.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (7X3UV)

342 Tuchman's faults in A Distant Mirror are mild by today's standards. It was published in 1978, before political correctness really got rolling. I think it is still a good popular history and worth reading, probably her best book.
Posted by: cool breeze at November 01, 2020 11:40 AM (UGKMd)

There's also something to be said for honest scholarship, even when it reaches flawed conclusions. It's the job of other writers to find and correct those flaws, if they exist.

It doesn't do anyone any good to just have critics nipping from the sidelines.

Once upon a time, this whole "Free Speech" concept was understood in that way.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)

343 Excellent book thread as usual, OM.

I'm currently reading A Million Open Doors by John Barnes (1992), the first of 4 books in his Thousand Cultures series.

Set 1000 years in the future, it's pretty light on the Sci part of sci-fi. Mankind has slowly spread out to the stars at sub-light speeds, and now there is a new tech to teleport between the worlds. A small group of young adults wind up as ambassadors from a libertine world to a world of the Amish on steroids.

I'm about 2/3 thru it, and it is well written and cleanly edited -- I'm gonna go ahead and give it 4 out of 5 stars.

You'd think with no power and no internet for a couple of days, I'd have roared thru the book, but hurricane Zeta delivered plenty of cleanup/repair chores and reading by candlelight ain't that much fun. Especially when you are pooped.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (F0YaR)

344 Can a man get action on "Whitmer and Wolf issue state wide two week lockdowns on Monday Nov 2, and declare voting places closed?" Anyone want my money? 20-1, say?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (evxBY)

345 2016 Final Iowa DMR poll: Trump +7
2020 Final Iowa DMR poll: Trump +7

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (22mNy)

346 American Kestrel was asking about the November writing challenge last night. If you're out there, Kestrel, this is definitely the thread for it.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (fFtVH)

347 Hardly anyone gets a job based on their own merit

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Explains Spud Stelter's career.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (+y/Ru)

348
The riots this year were contrived. No one was frustrated, except leftist politicians. so I agree-I don't think there will be much unrest. It's all been gaslighting.

It now is considerably colder and wetter, too. Pipe stem legs in wet denim, combined with wet cotton fleece wear hoodies, is a sure fire path to hypothermia.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (pNxlR)

349 Tons of looting and rioting? Not for long. There's this thing called winter. Resistance turnout will freeze up quickly.

Posted by: Fortcoins at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (nV60k)

350 Every time I think of Gaylord doing anything, it's like the scene in "King of Comedy" where Rupert Pupkin fantasizes about being a talk show host talking to his toadies about finding replacement hosts. In other words it's all about having the trappings of being a celebrity without the slightest clue about a marketable skill by which he can become one.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)

Right. Or the willingness to put in the hard work necessary to achieve something.Obama has always been a lazy, low-energy slap-dick. Probably never worked hard at anything in his life.

Which reminds me. He was supposed to have written a book by now. Michelle wrote hers. Did he decide not to?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (yyr7Q)

351 What is the male equivalent of a Karen? I know somebody here came up with the perfect name.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (rpbg1)
_________

Strictly, there is no such thing. But there are mollycoddles who identify as male, and they are called "Stelters".

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (7X3UV)

352 This morning's rally is in Washington Michigan. It is north of Detroit in Macomb County. This is a pretty important county for Trump, he needs a strong vote out of this county.

The venue is a little bit smaller than some we've seen, but it is packed full. I don't see any open space.

Weather is 35 degrees with a 30 MPH wind out of the north.

Trump won't get to the stage for another hour at least.

Just guestimating, but I think there are 8-10 thousand there.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:45 AM (5p7BC)

353 >>My theory on why there will much less looting than feared is that after Tuesday, hard core Dems are gonna be a whole lot more likely to go to the bathroom cabinet and swallow whatever they can find, rather than go outside and act up.

The more fun fight will be between the Democrat establishment and the socialists. The socialist took a back seat two elections in a row and the establishment blew both of them.

That war is going to be epic.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2020 11:45 AM (ZLI7S)

354 I'm telling my friends to vote for Trump so we only fall back once in November.

Posted by: Roy at November 01, 2020 11:45 AM (Ti+Tv)

355 Leftism is an ersatz religion. We're at the stage where its adherents are being asked to will Biden into the White House with the intensity of their belief.

It worked for Tinker Bell, didn't it?

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2020 11:45 AM (9TdxA)

356 The Gospel of John is a good religious movie. Christopher Plummer narrates the Gospel as key scenes are enacted. We watch it every Holy Week.

Posted by: Anne Elliot at November 01, 2020 11:45 AM (OnAZS)

357 Husband says I should try and find a publisher for Blue Spain. [ . . .] But he thinks if I find an American publisher who's interested, then they could negotiate with Editorial Planeta and make something happen. But I haven't the faintest idea where to begin, so I'm just sitting on it for now.
Glad we're back to Standard Time. Will be gladder still when this election is over.

Posted by: Annalucia at November 01, 2020 10:32 AM (S6ArX)

Annalucia, I have a suggestion that I have no idea if it is a good idea or not.

There was an interview with a writer named Tucker Max who claims to have set up a publishing business that is trying to not mess over all the writers and actually do something other than the "East Side Manhattan Publisher"

it is called Scribe Media ( https://scribemedia.com/ )

He promises lots, and says he does a lot as an editor to get books published and sold, you might look at their website and send them an email.

also, you wouldn't need a beta reader would you?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 11:46 AM (WyVLE)

358 And if the show was a bit later on, even that job could have been Wesley's.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 11:34 AM (v2c9/)

At least you'd not have had to listen to him in that case.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (pNxlR)

LOL! I still remember the episode where Wesley met the roving NAMBLA representative, aka "The Traveller".

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:46 AM (V2Yro)

359 It now is considerably colder and wetter, too. Pipe stem legs in wet denim, combined with wet cotton fleece wear hoodies, is a sure fire path to hypothermia.

Lots of rain in Portland election night, and for several days after.

How sad.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (I2/tG)

360 None of you watched the Latina dancing @214?!

It's like I don't know you anymore....

Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (cF8AT)

361 My theory on why there will much less looting than feared is that after Tuesday, hard core Dems are gonna be a whole lot more likely to go to the bathroom cabinet and swallow whatever they can find, rather than go outside and act up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (V2Yro)

My hope is that if they do act up, Trump unleashes the NG.

Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (AwYPR)

362 What is the male equivalent of a Karen?

**********

Milksops
Smellfungus
Dickless Fuckneenies

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (8YFRI)

363 There will be lots of rioting in DC, as near to the White House as the rioters can get. The Left are fabulists, you see. Visions of storming the Bastille.

Manhattan too, for media attention.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2020 11:39 AM (9TdxA)
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Chicago has figured out that maybe, just maybe, it wasn't a brilliant idea to let The Angry Left riot and burn and loot the city twice over the summer. Stores are boarded up and there are now cops everywhere on Michigan Avenue (priciest shopping district in town).

The Second City Cop blog is all over it, they'll be working 12 hours shifts, no days off, city garbage trucks have been deployed to intersections to halt traffic, but will it be enough?

I'm thinking that America's biggest city, NYC, might be able to come back from the destruction wrought by The Left and The Fake Virus.

But the second tier cities, like Chicago, and Minneapolis, aren't going to get back to normal for decades to come.

Posted by: Boots at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (oGBso)

364 344 Can a man get action on "Whitmer and Wolf issue state wide two week lockdowns on Monday Nov 2, and declare voting places closed?" Anyone want my money? 20-1, say?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (evxBY)
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It would not shock me if they tried that. Or even just specifying particular precincts. Or any variation.

It doesn't even have to take. Just suppress enough. That's my problem with the optimistic takes. I don't believe that there are any holds barred. Sure, they might get called on it, but if it works for a bit, well, Romney didn't win, did he?

Courts can step in quickly, but not instantly.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (7X3UV)

365 Dave, please de-lurk periodically! I like reading your comments.
Posted by: Emmie
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Oh I comment. Usually a couple times a day. But I don't have a wide range of things to talk about like Insom or TJM. I'm kind of a one trick pony.

I won't go away, just won't be the Horde's EF Hutton

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (5p7BC)

366 I'm curious about the congressional races that no one is talking about. Are we stuck forever with the sharia squad? Do any of these excellent black republican candidates stand a chance?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (sd8p8)

367 That is a mistake. He is going to lose from his bleeding in Lackawanna, Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh. If he only campaigns in Philly, he won't get enough votes.

He has to meet with Antifa squad leaders. There will be action in Philly.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (JioHo)

368 But it's remarkably bullshit free, and I really, really like that Snyder doesn't spend a lot of time defending his work from the prevailing approach to this history... He just briefly states that it's wrong and incomplete, and launches into it.

A lot of people have made similar points to the one he's making, but it always takes the form of Fisking the existing historiography, where Snyder just gently criticizes it and then begins making his case.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 01, 2020 11:41 AM (XJipD)

You've pretty well stated why I appreciated what he did and, despite the inhumanity and jcarnage, read through it quickly. Snyder's gotten pretty nutty politically since he wrote it, which doesn't diminish it in any way other than beware of expecting coherency elsewhere.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 11:49 AM (y7DUB)

369 also, you wouldn't need a beta reader would you?

Posted by: Kindltot

Good, beta, bestest !

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 11:49 AM (arJlL)

370 None of you watched the Latina dancing @214?!

It's like I don't know you anymore....
Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (cF8AT)

I watched it, she was hot

Posted by: spypeach at November 01, 2020 11:49 AM (Up/Jb)

371 @364...that's the theory. Chaos. Get it in the courts, see what happens.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 01, 2020 11:50 AM (evxBY)

372 Someone up thread mentioned the TV delay in calling the race last election, and I always wondered about the weird John Podesta non-concession speech. What was it they were hoping for? What was the plan?
It was so bizarre, and it made you think they weren't very smart--to decide that calling for a revolution should be Plan B in the face of the obvious fact that their side had been soundly rejected.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:50 AM (AwPyG)

373 Greetings:

And reading about public libraries, how's about a "Book Thread" about what public libraries are doing across the country in the Wuhan-COVID 19 era ???
I think MBAs call it cross-fertilization.

My local progressive library is taking call-outs over the internet and then leaving requests on an unmanned table in the parking lot for scheduled pickups.

It's better than nothing but not as much fun as indoor browsing and bumping the progs out of your way.

Posted by: 11B40 at November 01, 2020 11:50 AM (evgyj)

374
Can we keep DST all year please? I hate the 4:00 darkness that is about to show up.

The period between now and New Year's Day is the toughest for me with respect to the arrival of darkness issue. After New Year's, it seems to get better immediately even though we're not that far removed from the solstice.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:50 AM (pNxlR)

375 My NextDoor and Ring messages are getting peak Karen.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:50 AM (qiqGr)

376 Which reminds me. He was supposed to have written a book by now. Michelle wrote hers. Did he decide not to?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (yyr7Q)
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Bill Ayers is retired now.

Posted by: Boots at November 01, 2020 11:52 AM (oGBso)

377 375 My NextDoor and Ring messages are getting peak Karen.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:50 AM (qiqGr)

@stillgray

Woman who wants to defund the police calls police on Trump supporters because flags scare her.

https://tinyurl.com/y6mum3qr

Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 11:52 AM (cF8AT)

378 Dems are gonna be a whole lot more likely to go to the bathroom cabinet and swallow whatever they can find

**********

Pro-Tip for Suicidal Dems - a limerick

Please listen to me for just a bit
Re: suicide, if you're considering it
Among the potions, drugs, and pills
Remember if you will
That Preparation H tastes like sh!t

Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 11:52 AM (Fc5rx)

379 Which reminds me. He was supposed to have written a book by now. Michelle wrote hers. Did he decide not to?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (yyr7Q)

I've heard rumblings that Part 1 will come out late this month.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:53 AM (ONvIw)

380 Now, the Atlantic and the New Republic are pathetic jokes, and I can't remember the last time someone referenced something in Harpers.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:16 AM

In 1988, Harpers had seven different ad agencies each put together a full-page ad for a different deadly sin. I liked the idea so much, I went out and bought a copy of the magazine.

So, mark the time as 9:53 AM CST 1 November 2020. I referenced something in Harpers.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 01, 2020 11:53 AM (qDSku)

381 360 None of you watched the Latina dancing @214?!

It's like I don't know you anymore....
Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (cF8AT)
_______

She is what AOC wishes she looked like.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 11:53 AM (7X3UV)

382 and I always wondered about the weird John Podesta non-concession speech. What was it they were hoping for? What was the plan?

Hillary was too drunk and furious to take the stage and concede Election Night. They had to wait until she was a bit more sober.

And you just know that they were filming her as the election returns came in. Why hasn't that been leaked yet?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:53 AM (I2/tG)

383 I won't go away
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (5p7BC)

Whew! Thanks!

Posted by: Emmie at November 01, 2020 11:53 AM (4JM5Y)

384 Secret Service estimated 50,000 (reported by Gorka)

yuge
Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles
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That is stunning. I'm blown away.

You know that the averages at these rallies are 40% Democrats and 25% never voted before?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:53 AM (5p7BC)

385 The riots this year were contrived. No one was frustrated, except leftist politicians. so I agree-I don't think there will be much unrest. It's all been gaslighting.

It now is considerably colder and wetter, too. Pipe stem legs in wet denim, combined with wet cotton fleece wear hoodies, is a sure fire path to hypothermia.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (pNxlR)

I remember writing at the time that Democrats began to realize that the riots were hurting them, that I thought that the Dems had created a Frankenstein's monster that had gotten out of control and that they wouldn't be able to stop. But I added that IF the riots (this was in July, I think) DID come to almost a complete stop, then that was going to be a big Tell that the DNC and their supporters in the MSM had always been organizing them.

well, except for a few spots like Portland and Philadelphia, they came to a complete stop almost instantly. Amazing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:54 AM (V2Yro)

386 @371
It's interesting, because a lot of people are worried about chaos and lawsuits tying up the country for weeks.

But as Dave will tell you, Trump has a pretty easy route to 270 by using the results in states that aren't insane, where the Secty of State is going to call the winner immediately.
It's like the riots--they can't spread to areas that don't have a Soros DA. The elections chaos can't spread to states without a Soros Sect of State.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:54 AM (AwPyG)

387 Back in the 80s Harpers had the best cryptic crosswords I've seen. Other than that, well....

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 11:55 AM (7X3UV)

388 Troi would have actually been much more interesting as a full telepath. It wouldn't have been much of a tactical advantage since she wouldn't understand most of the aliens' mother tongue's when reading their thoughts.

The CW's 'Stargirl', had Brainwave, one of the villains who was a full telepath. Reading everyone's topmost thoughts drove him almost insane as he realized how corrupt and degenerate most people were.

There was nothing Troi did as ship's counselor that couldn't have been accomplished by having a troubled crew member go out on a hard night of drinking with Chief O'Brian.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 11:55 AM (v2c9/)

389 I think the riots will be huge, the people who paid for the last ones were not deterred by Barr's lazy hints and stunning inaction. He left them free to fight another day, and they will. They still have money.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 11:56 AM (ONvIw)

390 366 I'm curious about the congressional races that no one is talking about. Are we stuck forever with the sharia squad? Do any of these excellent black republican candidates stand a chance?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (sd8p

with the way Polling has been wrecked, I think we just have to hope that Trump has long coat tails.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:56 AM (V2Yro)

391 Woman who wants to defund the police calls police on Trump supporters because flags scare her.

You see that all the time in Portland. Some Antifa female feels threatened at a demonstration, and is furious that the cops won't protect her, despite the fact that she wants to abolish the cops, and has just spent hours chanting the vilest insults imaginable at the police riot line.

The personification of white privilege.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:56 AM (I2/tG)

392 @380...really is a shame what happened to "The Atlantic". I feared the worst when they dropped " Monthly", and the worst has come to pass. Jeffrey Goldberg has been a disaster. Graeme Wood is the last good writer there, and is toeing the line-- at least in his Twitter feed. But he should move on.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 01, 2020 11:57 AM (evxBY)

393 Kevin McCullough

@KMCRadio
1h
LISTEN TO ME CAREFULLY: This is NO LONGER an issue of *if* @realDonaldTrump will win... The REAL question based on info I've just received is - just how long will his coat tails be?

VOTE the entire ticket!
Hold the Senate!
Take the House!

VOTE!

=========

I choose to believe it.

It is my truth.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 11:57 AM (LvTSG)

394 I watched some footage of the protests in downtown Vancouver. It was the usual bored white people with ugly women screaming at the police.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 01, 2020 11:57 AM (YynYJ)

395 with the way Polling has been wrecked, I think we just have to hope that Trump has long coat tails.

************

I think 49 races are tossup (based on gaslight polls) and GOP only needs 17 to flip.

I WANT TO BELIEVE

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:57 AM (8YFRI)

396 376 Which reminds me. He was supposed to have written a book by now. Michelle wrote hers. Did he decide not to?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 11:44 AM (yyr7Q)
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Bill Ayers is retired now.
Posted by: Boots at November 01, 2020 11:52 AM (oGBso)
________

He could get Biden to write it for him.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2020 11:58 AM (7X3UV)

397 "One of the coolest things about this year is people in states that everyone knows Trump will lose are still out supporting him. I saw video from the Beverly Hills parade yesterday, and it was huge and enthusiastic."

Absolutely. I think one of the best things about Trump is that he's energized demoralized voters in blue areas. They are going to turn out to give a big FU to the Dem tyrants who have shut everything down. Even if they are too few to vote them out of office, they'll feel better.

But here's the sneaky side effect. In all of those blue areas the leftists will realize there are a LOT more Trump supporters all around them than they ever dreamed. And they'll start thinking, "Those guys are crazy. And they are ARMED!! Maybe I'd better tone it down or they'll shoot me."

Could get interesting.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at November 01, 2020 11:58 AM (fTtFy)

398 Woman who wants to defund the police calls police on Trump supporters because flags scare her.

https://tinyurl.com/y6mum3qr
Posted by: Tami
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LOL

"This is an intimidating show of force"

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 11:58 AM (5p7BC)

399 >>> 375 My NextDoor and Ring messages are getting peak Karen.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 11:50 AM (qiqGr)

All my Ring is crime. Shots fired, cars being broken into, packages stolen, etc. For a while there was a crazy woman taking peoples door mats and moving them to the sidewalk. The best was this one old dude, three sheets to the wind, trying to open doors while wearing tighty whiteys on his head. No one discusses politics as far as I can see or masks. Mostly it's just people not wanting to be killed, robbed, or raped.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 01, 2020 11:58 AM (l6b3d)

400 I tried to be Paul Revere on the ONT last night, when I posted that the final Ann Selzer/DMR poll in IA came out, & shows Trump +7, & Ernst +4. I said Selzer was the most respected pollster in America, & that this was a YUUGE tell about next Tuesday, because it shows Trump & Ernst surging since her previous poll in September.

The 'rons response? "Does she have a brother named Alka?"

All you can do is try. Pearls, swine, etc.

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2020 11:58 AM (Cssks)

401 @391
It's purposeful. they want to condition the public to think that exercising rights is "selfish" and "hurtful."
don't be fooled

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:59 AM (AwPyG)

402 390 366 I'm curious about the congressional races that no one is talking about. Are we stuck forever with the sharia squad? Do any of these excellent black republican candidates stand a chance?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (sd8p

with the way Polling has been wrecked, I think we just have to hope that Trump has long coat tails.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:56 AM (V2Yro)

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Use the same non-polling metrics.

Places like NY-18 and NY-19, according to MarcusT who passed through recently, are full on MAGA. That's two flips in NY alone.

There's a MN resident and Republican on Twitter following every district's early voting really closely, and he says there are two to flip there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 11:59 AM (LvTSG)

403 386 @371
It's interesting, because a lot of people are worried about chaos and lawsuits tying up the country for weeks.

But as Dave will tell you, Trump has a pretty easy route to 270 by using the results in states that aren't insane, where the Secty of State is going to call the winner immediately.
It's like the riots--they can't spread to areas that don't have a Soros DA. The elections chaos can't spread to states without a Soros Sect of State.
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:54 AM (AwPyG)

Reality is often nowhere near as interesting as fantasy. And 2020 has come damn close to having played out all the possible fantasy anyone could want.

Trump's victory looks pretty damned certain now, and whatever shenanigans the Democrats wanted to pull, they just don't have the power or the brains to pull it.

Other than what they've already done.

Has that been successful? Is that working?

I can't fathom how it could be good for anyone's psyche to, at this point in the process, be suddenly looking for a new way the Democrat boogeymen are going to emerge, like Jason from the lake, and somehow win the day.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:59 AM (hku12)

404 Last night around midnight, MSNBC had a guy saying that they needed to call on the spirits of the dead to guide them in this time. And then he started to bring up the Dem greats that died this year and the lessons they taught.

And CNN had a program titled "Biden's long road to the White House" which also made me laugh.

Sorry for all that. I hate Star Trek now and just needed to unload.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 11:59 AM (v2c9/)

405 Yes Muldoon you deserve a Thanks keeping some amusement in these desperate times.

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 11:59 AM (OjZpE)

406 Canada's Parliament buildings are indeed very beautiful and well worth a visit. Thankfully Justin Trudeau is just another visitor passing through. As I read today, someone Sean Connery may have called "a bucket of smoke."

Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (MxeFh)

407 We're counting on it being an election a whole lot like every other election for the last 200+ years, and that people are once again going to be inspired to get out and vote just like always. I like our odds.

************

I'm scared to hope because I don't want to be crushed on Election Night.

I can't mentally handle the possibility that the nation will openly commit suicide and elect an honest to God demented, corrupt pedophile after all that Trump has done for us and endured.

I'm gonna need a lot of coloring books and puppies to pet to overcome this one.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (8YFRI)

408 624 Prothonotary, well much of that is the same thing - D crossovers being black or Hispanic.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:56 PM (OTzUX)

I just thought it was worth mentioning, because when I think think of Democrats voting for Trump, my first thought is blue-collar white guys.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (H3MF8)

409 360 None of you watched the Latina dancing @214?!

It's like I don't know you anymore....
Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (cF8AT)

Twitter says it's not available for me.
Hmmm...

Posted by: dantesed at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (88xKn)

410 >> Sadly, all the Democrats have to do is win one more election. They know it, too.

They also have to survive long enough to implement their fucked up policies.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (ONSF4)

411 Watching Trump working the freezing Michigan crowd, and having fun doing it.

Trump using the Jim Carrey gibberish clip after Biden's gaffe is rhetorical genius, has me laughing hard every time! I bet Carrey's pissed! Good!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (OssQ4)

412 Remember the Time was some great pop music.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (qiqGr)

413 "No idea what. Probably one of those earnest lawyer shows."

No, it was about 3 sisters. I believe it was on Sat. night.

Posted by: Tuna at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (gLRfa)

414 We are watching one of the best campaigns in history rolling over the worst campaign of all time.

When all is said and done, nobody can dare say the our man PDT didn't give it everything he had. It's been amazing and gratifying to behold.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (EgshT)

415 Tom Servo FTW

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (AwPyG)

416 New CBD thread up top.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)

417 The collectivists' "superpower" is having absofukinglutely no conscience. Their "kryptonite" is they are neither as smart or as numerous as they think they are.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (/kh7m)

That goes to the most evil mental defect common in all Leftists. Ends Justify the Means.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (2DOZq)

418
I was genuinely curious what the problem was, for the guy complaining about a post mentioned Critical Drinker.

But then, I guess he just wanted to drop a turd and leave.

Oh well.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)

Considering he has never posted before you would be right.

Posted by: buzzion at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (vMCab)

419 NOOD

Posted by: Bruce at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (vd8XM)

420 None of you watched the Latina dancing @214?!

It's like I don't know you anymore....
Posted by: Tami
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The rally to watch today is the one in Miami.

THAT one will have dancing.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (5p7BC)

421 Portland Antifa hit a business district east of downtown that hadn't been hit before last night. Lots and lots of nice windows to break, since they hadn't been boarded up.
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Which district? Hollywood?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (xRn8c)

422 Tom Servo, totally agree

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (AwPyG)

423 nood heroes

Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (CM8Oa)

424 628 I really recommend that everyone take the time to watch rallies today and soak it in. You are going to look back at this moment in the future.

10,000 people in the snow and wind in Michigan hanging on Trump's every word. Fired up and enthusiasm off the chart.

I really think this election is over.

We are watching one of the best campaigns in history rolling over the worst campaign of all time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (5p7BC)

It really is all that!

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (EbSTN)

425 I watched some footage of the protests in downtown Vancouver. It was the usual bored white people with ugly women screaming at the police.

A pro-Assad Syrian immigrant "reporter" in Portland, who apparently has nothing else to do with her life but attend riots and demonstrations, was mad that the a right-wing woman allegedly pulled a gun on her.

You can definitely tell that this woman is not Antifa:

https://twitter.com/R3volutionDaddy/ status/1322449700612567041

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (I2/tG)

426 I recently read Rickles' auto biography.

He had a hard time starting out....not a lot of people "got" his brand of humor.

Go figure.....!

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (arJlL)

427 395 with the way Polling has been wrecked, I think we just have to hope that Trump has long coat tails.

************

I think 49 races are tossup (based on gaslight polls) and GOP only needs 17 to flip.

I WANT TO BELIEVE
Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 11:57 AM (8YFRI)

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It's 21 total. The GOP has 197 seats in the House currently.

Of the races, there are five vacancies, four of which should go GOP since they're traditional Republican seats from people like Mark Meadows and John Ratcliffe. The fifth is John Lewis' seat, and that ain't happening.

Justin Amash is also retiring, so that would make it a fifth right there.

So, with that assumption, the GOP starts at 202, which means just another 16 to go.

Add in at least a couple from NY, IA, MN, and then SC-1, and we've got 7 right there, taking the GOP up to 209 with only 9 more to go.

And there are a few other states with winnable races like VA and FL, and I think I'm being super conservative with NY's districts.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (LvTSG)

428 624 Prothonotary, well much of that is the same thing - D crossovers being black or Hispanic.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:56 PM (OTzUX)

I just thought it was worth mentioning, because when I think of Democrats voting for Trump, my first thought is blue-collar white guys.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (H3MF8)

429 the staffer who came up with the 'fly-in campaign rally' concept needs a helluva pay raise

It's brilliant.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (WLHrn)

430 Had no idea who Sela Ward was, Googled and still don't
Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (OjZpE)

Check out the movie "Nothing in Common" with Tom Hanks, Sela Ward, Jackie Gleason, and Eva Marie Saint (and a spiffy Hector Elizondo)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 12:56 PM (PiwSw)
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She did a series of commercials fora phone company back in the 90s. In a catsuit.

She was also Dr. Richard Kimble's murdered wife in "The Fugitive".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (xRn8c)

431 614 PDT having a blast in MI
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:54 PM (85Gof)
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I am compelled to attend/view his events.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (2fxLW)

432 Looks like Biden has NV.
Posted by: Ha
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Don't be too sure.

Some people have been delving into the Dems who have early voted and are finding significant crossover.

Also the Dem vote heavily cannibalized election day voting to run up the Clark numbers. Election day could be 4:1 or 5:1 for GOP.

Personally, I see it 50/50 right now.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (5p7BC)

433 "Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (5p7BC)"

Your keyboard to God's ear brother. I pray you're right. There seem to be a lot of very misinformed people voting for Biden. They have not read his agenda. They think the truth is really hyperbole. It's not if you read his plan and listen to his mealy mouthed words. It's a bunch of fiction being covered up by the media. It's going to produce some very bad outcomes for the very people voting for Biden. The truth is being diverted into hate and emotion for the president, instead of an agenda and real accomplishments.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (vPQLm)

434 Obama's book is due out on the 17th it's called "A Promised Land" I expected it to be called "My Struggle" in Swahili.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (ONvIw)

435 garrett, I remember thinking who the hell is this.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (qiqGr)

436 FBI is deep state, ain't it.

You had people assaulted on the streets of DC by an organized group as they left Trump's nomination ceremony.

The FBI didn't care about that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (I2/tG)

437 Twitter says it's not available for me.
Hmmm...

Posted by: dantesed at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (88xKn)

Try again. Twitter does that sometimes for no reason.

Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 12:03 PM (cF8AT)

438 Which district? Hollywood?

Lloyd District. The cops stopped them before they could trash the Lloyd Center shopping mall.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:03 PM (I2/tG)

439 I'm not seeing my comments anymore. Did I accidentally get banned somehow?

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:03 PM (H3MF8)

440 It's chilly in MN

Talking about AOC stealing and what's Justice doing?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 01, 2020 12:03 PM (2fxLW)

441 We are watching one of the best campaigns in history

When all is said and done, nobody can dare say that our guy PDT didn't give it everything he had. A superhuman effort that has been both amazing and gratifying to behold.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 12:03 PM (EgshT)

442 The rally to watch today is the one in Miami.

THAT one will have dancing.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (5p7BC)

People are tagging Trumps team to that video to play it today at the Miami rally. Ivanka spoke at a rally where that group performed so it's possible it will appear on the jumbotron.

Posted by: Tami at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (cF8AT)

443 Can a man get action on "Whitmer and Wolf issue state wide two week
lockdowns on Monday Nov 2, and declare voting places closed?" Anyone
want my money? 20-1, say?

I'll take a side bet on "that would not in any capacity in their best interests".

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (EgshT)

444 We are watching one of the best campaigns in history rolling over the worst campaign of all time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla.

Agreed. Trump raised money and then put it to work. Biden raised money and put it in grifters pockets. My guess is he still has lots of those funds sitting in a bank account.They had no idea how to actually run a campaign. They learned nothing from 2016.
Think of the logistics involved in putting these rallies together at the last minute and how,they all come off without a hitch. Biden's team can't even do a virtual interview:without fucking something up.
The Dems are incompetent. If they were relying on Antifa and BLM to put them over the top, they are truly living in a bubble.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (sd8p8)

445 Lloyd District. The cops stopped them before they could trash the Lloyd Center shopping mall.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:03 PM (I2/tG)

Did they hit the Portland State Office Building? Please tell me the hit the PSOB!!! Or the Star Park next to it!!!

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (WyVLE)

446 >>Mostly a teevee actress, I think. She had a starring role in something or other that was popular back in the day. No idea what. Probably one of those earnest lawyer shows.

The one armed man killed her.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (ZLI7S)

447 Crap, I wrote up something about NV and it got lost.

Anyway, I see it 50/50 right now.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (5p7BC)

448 No matter how many times I read/hear of Rickles saying to Sinatra "Make yourself at home Frank; Hit Somebody"

I bust out laughing.

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (arJlL)

449 I remember thinking who the hell is singing backup.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (qiqGr)

450 Race is tighter than an anal retentive Karen.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (8YFRI)

___

You have a way with words, good sir.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (22mNy)

451 Dave in Florida

Would like to get your thoughts about Selzer. See post 400.

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (Cssks)

452 Twitter says it's not available for me.
Hmmm...

Posted by: dantesed at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (88xKn)

Refreshing the page usually works for me.

Posted by: Emmie at November 01, 2020 12:04 PM (4JM5Y)

453 "Race is tighter than an anal retentive Karen."

I always know where to come for LOL yet insightful quotes to casually insert into conversations in order to make myself look smart and with it,

Posted by: Tuna at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (gLRfa)

454 I bet Chuck Berry would have hated it.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (qiqGr)

455 Testes

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (qiqGr)

456 404 Last night around midnight, MSNBC had a guy saying that they needed to call on the spirits of the dead to guide them in this time. And then he started to bring up the Dem greats that died this year and the lessons they taught."

Gotta admit, he's got the Dem's "Get out the Vote" program nailed, right there!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (V2Yro)

457 Time travel is starting.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (22mNy)

458 Ugh. Sorry for the double post. Oh, well.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (EgshT)

459 424 628 I really recommend that everyone take the time to watch rallies today and soak it in. You are going to look back at this moment in the future.

10,000 people in the snow and wind in Michigan hanging on Trump's every word. Fired up and enthusiasm off the chart.

I really think this election is over.

We are watching one of the best campaigns in history rolling over the worst campaign of all time.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (5p7BC)

It really is all that!
Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:01 PM (EbSTN)

Something weird happened with the clock! I quoted 628 (12:57 PM) and posted at 424 (12:01 PM) about 4 minutes ago!

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (EbSTN)

460 oh. wow. Ace's clock reset.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (WyVLE)

461
Our promised rain just arrived. Time to go fry some eggs in bacon grease and eat them with toast.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:05 PM (pNxlR)

462 If Blue Collar workers, unions and others voting for Biden think he will get them back to work sooner and look out for them, I've got a bridge for sale.

Look at what is happening now. That's your future under Biden.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at November 01, 2020 12:06 PM (vPQLm)

463 And there are a few other states with winnable races like VA and FL, and I think I'm being super conservative with NY's districts.

A 50/50 Oregon district with a Democratic Congressman who has been in DC for 34 years may flip.

Good Republican candidate, and the Democrat's claims to "moderation" vanished when he voted to impeach Trump. He's not going to get the 10-20% of the Republican vote that he usually does.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (I2/tG)

464 Is there a problem posting today? My posts seem to disappear as soon as I hit post

Posted by: Tuna at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (gLRfa)

465 Did my comment get banned because I used a bad word?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (sd8p8)

466 I feel bad for these RSBN announcers. They aren't professionals, which I honestly like. And they have to talk nonstop otherwise YouTube will shut them down because of the music playing in the background at the rally.

I think I've heard this girl say the exact same thing 15 times now over the last few days. It has to be exhausting for them.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (5p7BC)

467 404, for real?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (qiqGr)

468
Refreshing the page usually works for me.
Posted by: Emmie

Refresh gets me the page. Retry does not.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (pNxlR)

469 Lloyd District. The cops stopped them before they could trash the Lloyd Center shopping mall.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:03 PM (I2/tG)
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Oh, man. There are (or were) a lot of nice little restaurants around there.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (xRn8c)

470 My local library fills requests so it's useful for me, plus it's less than a mile from me.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (y7DUB)

471 Thanks for the thread and reading ideas.
I am continuing my author CJ Box Joe Pickett series, I am up to book 16. I enjoy them. Seems I am a bit compelled to finish a series once I start it.
Thank you for the suggestion last week, Longmire series. Maybe next.
Neighbor gave me a book by Capstick, Death in the Long Grass. A big game hunters adventures in the African Bush. It is an actual book, apparently printed on pieces of dead wood??? (Family guy reference, nvm)

Posted by: MikeM at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (3F0Ql)

472 Help

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (sd8p8)

473 I can't believe I forgot today was Fall Back day. And here it is, just after 9, and the book thread appears to be sputtering out.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)

474 New York City entertainers in a massive country farmhouse that they stage must-see extravaganzas with Irving Berlin songs.

You're right, completely different.

Posted by: Auspex at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (Xo3T0)

475 Yes Muldoon you deserve a Thanks keeping some amusement in these desperate times.
Posted by: Skip

********

Last meal: Smoked brisket, boracho beans and cole slaw

Last Drink: Guinness stout

Last smoke: Romeo y Julieta Reserva Real Veronas

Any last words? -

There once was a Moron named Seamus
Convicted of patriot games
He faced the firing squad
And said, "You may think this odd,
But I hope they go "Ready, Fire, Aim!"

Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 12:08 PM (Fc5rx)

476 @403
I suppose we've been conditioned to expect Jason from the lake. See: John Roberts; John McCain; Mitt Romney; Jeff sessions, etc, etc,

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:09 PM (AwPyG)

477 425 And there are a few other states with winnable races like VA and FL, and I think I'm being super conservative with NY's districts.

A 50/50 Oregon district with a Democratic Congressman who has been in DC for 34 years may flip.

Good Republican candidate, and the Democrat's claims to "moderation" vanished when he voted to impeach Trump. He's not going to get the 10-20% of the Republican vote that he usually does.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (I2/tG)

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I read about that one.

Yeah, the impeachment vote that Democrats were so excited about and now no longer talk about is going to be a sleeper reason why Democrats lose the House.

It should be a prominent issue for everyone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

478 Trump has a better chance in NY than NV.

NV voting is totally skewed by immigrant Californians.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 01, 2020 12:09 PM (2fxLW)

479 Enguerrand de Coucy in A Distant Mirror is the guy I talk with the kids about. Everything in his life went well. So he had no grit when things turned south. And then he died.

Grit is important in life, and it helps to have overcome some adversity.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 01, 2020 12:09 PM (u82oZ)

480 Muldoon is awe-some.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:10 PM (AwPyG)

481 Til dawn, til three, on the phone

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:10 PM (qiqGr)

482 It's interesting, because a lot of people are worried about chaos and lawsuits tying up the country for weeks.

In individual races. Not for POTUS.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:10 PM (zr5Kq)

483 I would think that Selzer's reported numbers mean Joni Ernst is a safe win; that's just as important as Trump winning there.

some things to note around the web this morning - yep, Fauci went to CNN and is actively campaigning against Trump. He needs to be fired on November 4th, along with Haspel and Wray.

and saw a fun article from an online Seattle site, about how Rents have been falling all year. (btw - when rents start to fall, Real Estate prices always follow, with a time lag) They said it must be because of Covid, they couldn't think of any other reason that people might be moving out and places were standing empty. Even though most red states are seeing rents start to go up dramatically, as vacancies are disappearing.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:10 PM (V2Yro)

484 A 50/50 Oregon district with a Democratic Congressman who has been in DC for 34 years may flip.

Good Republican candidate, and the Democrat's claims to "moderation" vanished when he voted to impeach Trump. He's not going to get the 10-20% of the Republican vote that he usually does.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (I2/tG)

Wait, you talking about DeFazio's district?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 12:11 PM (yyr7Q)

485
A 50/50 Oregon district with a Democratic Congressman who has been in DC for 34 years may flip.
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Earl the Pearl Blumenauer? Good. I live in Multnomah County, so it doesn't matter who I vote for.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:11 PM (xRn8c)

486 >>>the staffer who came up with the 'fly-in campaign rally' concept needs a helluva pay raise
Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 01, 2020 12:58 PM (iTXRQ)

21st Century whistle stop

Posted by: Braenyard at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (2fxLW)

487 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (BvKrx)

488 I forgot to say something about the picture up top.

Ottawa is a really pretty city. Well worth the time to visit once all the lockdowns end.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (5p7BC)

489 What's the definition of LANDSLIDE!!!?

340 +?

Posted by: LASue at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

490 books good

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (iTXRQ)

491 I feel bad for these RSBN announcers. They aren't professionals, which I honestly like. And they have to talk nonstop otherwise YouTube will shut them down because of the music playing in the background at the rally.

I think I've heard this girl say the exact same thing 15 times now over the last few days. It has to be exhausting for them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:07 PM (5p7BC)

It kinda looks like an internship for broadcast journalists. That they've emerged as more credible than the corporate journalists is no surprise to many. May be a surprise to them, and that's why they struggle at times to figure out what to say.

My hope is enough of these youngsters figure out they're onto something here, and look toward learning this business well enough to be an alternative to corporate media.

No doubt some though, are auditioning for their Big Break. And we'll see them not too far into the future, mouthing corporate garbage, at Fox or one of the China kept networks.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (hku12)

492 Sela Ward was voicing it, so I listened!
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (KDCRD)

Back in the day I thought she was gorgeous.

Haven't seen her in awhile but hope she has aged well.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 12:45 PM

She's living with her husband Howard Sherman on their 500 acre estate in Meridian Mississippi. He ran as a Dem for US Senate in 2018, lost the primary to Baria, who lost to Wicker in the general. She seems to be somewhat involved in Dem politics in Mississippi.

https://tinyurl.com/y2566wmv

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (3GzTP)

493 "I think you are forgetting their biggest contribution: finger snapping at poetry readings. "

LOL.

Posted by: Tuna at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (gLRfa)

494 Started rereading Arundel, by Kenneth L. Brown. It's the story of Steven Nason and his Abenaki Indian friends as they help Benedict Arnold's army through the Maine wilderness to attack Quebec in the Fall of 1775.

Steven's motive is two fold, rescue his teenaged love who was captured by the French years ago and defeat the British for the Revolution.

Although it is a novel it gives a good impression of the hardships the soldiers of the Revolution went through to win.

Brown has a number of novels during this period of America history between the French and Indian war through the Barbary pirates. Titles include, North by Northwest, Rabble in Arms, Captain Lively, and my favorite Oliver Wiswell which is a story of a Tory fighting for the crown.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 01, 2020 12:13 PM (6yYEv)

495 > What's the definition of LANDSLIDE!!!?

40 states +

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 01, 2020 12:13 PM (iTXRQ)

496 Dice

Selzer is the most respected pollster extant, & she's no 'mangy dog.'

Ask around.

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2020 12:13 PM (Cssks)

497
Had no idea who Sela Ward was, Googled and still don't
Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (OjZpE)

Harrison Ford's murdered wife in "The Fugitive"

Tom Hanks' employer and love interest in "Nothing in Common"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:13 PM (pNxlR)

498 What's the definition of LANDSLIDE!!!?

340 +?
Posted by: LASue at November 01, 2020 12:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

0ver 300 : )

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:13 PM (zr5Kq)

499 I feel bad for these RSBN announcers. They aren't professionals, which I honestly like. And they have to talk nonstop otherwise YouTube will shut them down because of the music playing in the background at the rally.

____

Is that due to copyright stuff?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:13 PM (22mNy)

500 Oh, right, de Fazio. Like I say, I don't keep track of them. I'm literally right on the line of 1st District.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:13 PM (xRn8c)

501 Yeah, the impeachment vote that Democrats were so excited about and now no longer talk about is going to be a sleeper reason why Democrats lose the House.

It's a BFD. There are a lot of "moderate" Democrats who were allowed to take conservative positions on unimportant votes, while slavishly following the Pelosi line on all the important votes, who are screwed because of the impeachment vote.

Oregon Democrats disapprovingly refer to "hyper-politicization", meaning that "moderate" Peter DeFazio isn't fooling the rural Republicans in Southern Oregon anymore.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:14 PM (I2/tG)

502 I am continuing my author CJ Box Joe Pickett series, I am up to book 16. I enjoy them.

Those books are excellent !

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 12:14 PM (arJlL)

503 My theory on why there will much less looting than feared is that after Tuesday, hard core Dems are gonna be a whole lot more likely to go to the bathroom cabinet and swallow whatever they can find, rather than go outside and act up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:43 AM (V2Yro

What about the ones who are getting paid to do it?

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2020 12:14 PM (x/pJ3)

504 Dice

Ann Selzer is no ordinary pollster, & 'mangy dog' doesn't fit.

Ask around.

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (Cssks)

505 @438
My grown kids are certain we won't have a president in place on inauguration day.
And they're normal, well educated kids. they believe everything their smart phone tells them though, and that's the problem.
(Really? I say. Do you know anyone who's sick with this?
Cases are way, way up!!)

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (AwPyG)

506 Did you ever contact Jack da Roofer ?
Posted by: JT

No, hubby picked a roofer he liked before I could
But thanks for suggesting him!

Posted by: vmom - chump4trump at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (nUhF0)

507 Let's see where this pops up, because I like playing with the AoSHq time machine

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (OjZpE)

508 (Really? I say. Do you know anyone who's sick with this?
Cases are way, way up!!)
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (AwPyG)

None.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (ONvIw)

509 Per MSM:

Dems win by .01% = clear agenda, the American people have spoken

Reps win by 10% = Tight race, they must govern from the middle

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (22mNy)

510 AUFKM?

Do the COB's not actually read each other's posts?

Critical drinker?

JFC.

Posted by: Egregious Johnson at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (ynw0i)

511
We are watching one of the best campaigns in history

the staffer who came up with the 'fly-in campaign rally' concept needs a helluva pay raise
Posted by: DB- just DB

'fly-in protest' -- c'mon, man!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (pNxlR)

512 Canada's Parliament buildings are indeed very beautiful and well worth a visit. Thankfully Justin Trudeau is just another visitor passing through. As I read today, someone Sean Connery may have called "a bucket of smoke."
Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at November 01, 2020 12:00 PM (MxeFh)

That's kind of insulting to smoke. Smoke can make bacon, after all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (iVJgm)

513 434 @403
I suppose we've been conditioned to expect Jason from the lake. See: John Roberts; John McCain; Mitt Romney; Jeff sessions, etc, etc,
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:09 PM (AwPyG)

With hindsight though, we figure out none of what appeared to be treason from these jackwagons was actually a change of direction for them.

They are who they are.

However, people here on the AoSHQ seem to believe the Democrats are filled with some kind of supernatural cunning or wisdom or planning or whatever, and they're going to rise from the dead, out of the lake or grave or whatever, to git us.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (hku12)

514 The FEDERAL Bureau if Investigation is looking into a traffic incident because it involved Trump supporters and a busloads of insurgents. Interesting take on their part.

Hey, what about that laptop thing, or something about a server in Hildebeest's outhouse? Too busy with other more pressing issues?

Rotten. To the core.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (oEUy9)

515 When did Portland rot?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:17 PM (qiqGr)

516 458 Per MSM:

Dems win by .01% = clear agenda, the American people have spoken

Reps win by 10% = Tight race, they must govern from the middle
Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:15 PM (22mNy)

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"We shall listen to every proposal from the Democrats and use their position as an opening negotiating position."
-GOPe

"Fuck you. Day 1, executive orders outlawing birthright citizenship and making all federal workers at will employees. Now we can start talking about what else I want."
-Donald J. Trump

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:17 PM (LvTSG)

517 I just took a look at the overnight thread. That guy with the skull... that's seriously messed up!

You find an actual human skull somewhere, and it doesn't occur to you that maybe it, you know, belongs to someone? So, instead of reporting it to the police, you just take it home and use it for decor?

I hope there are some charges pressed against that guy. I don't quite feel that a long stretch in prison is necessarily appropriate, but some sort of punishment is definitely warranted. People need to know that that's not okay.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:17 PM (H3MF8)

518 Not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 01, 2020 11:22 AM (Fc5rx)

I have no idea. It may be different if he is there to provide his own name as a laurel for the organization or he is there as a high-powered front for a larger group.

Is Paul Ryan a name or a conspiracy? The viewing public wants to know!

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 12:17 PM (WyVLE)

519 Did you ever contact Jack da Roofer ?
Posted by: JT

No, hubby picked a roofer he liked before I could
But thanks for suggesting him!
Posted by: vmom - chump4trump

You are most welcome !

Posted by: JT at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (arJlL)

520 Heh. I saw that yesterday in Powerline's "week in pictures". Very clever, because it sounds exactly like a Groucho quip.

Yup, that's where I got it from. Couldn't think of a way to present it as a Groucho quote because not enough covfefe. I think I've used up all the good literary Groucho quotes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (HaL55)

521 250 "Forbes website posts a link to this video and says that Trump supporters
rammed into a white SUV protecting the Biden / Harris bus as it drove
through Texas"
This fender bender, as dangerous as it might have been, was out of the usual leftist playbook of provoking an incident and then playing victim. The bus and its escort were both straddling the lane when the Trump truck came up behind to tailgate the bus. The Biden vehicle then began to merge into the truck's lane to try and force it from behind the bus. The truck driver was having none of it.
Here's video of the collision, unfortunately from a Biden Baby's twitter:
https://twitter.com/ericcervini/status/1322546782572859395

Posted by: Brett at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (xBWeZ)

522 AUFKM?

Do the COB's not actually read each other's posts?

Critical drinker?

JFC.
Posted by: Egregious Johnson at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (ynw0i)

No idea what you're trying to say here.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (hku12)

523 riots and looting and "ShutDown DC" are maybe separate things, idk.

The point of much of it is to influence the voters, so why would they do it AFTER the election? Unless they really are planninng a more violent coup, or some subversive form of it using their Resistance Fighters that do some radical action ... ? threaten all the electors at gunpoint, hold their families hostage?

I can't see anything they can do, even if the Brennans and Strzoks stroke out in more rage about their valiant stand against Russian takeover. If the vote count is close, they can try a flood of fake ballots? Mostly I think is all about influencing the voter now ... "Vote for Biden or we burn down your world" ... imo that has had the opposite influence for voters in or out of the hot zones.

And Trump can be tougher after the election .... especially if Wray/Haspel are replaced with patriots ... and maybe Barr, idk. Insurrection should be treated for what it is, not as mostly peaceful protests.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (Cus5s)

524 Just to double-check, there's no master list of morons with all of the books they wrote?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (v2c9/)

525 Test.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (HaL55)

526 I can't fathom how it could be good for anyone's psyche to, at this point in the process, be suddenly looking for a new way the Democrat boogeymen are going to emerge, like Jason from the lake, and somehow win the day.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:59 AM (hku12)

Because, IMO, it's a lot more damaging to the psyche to be confident of a yuge Trump win and then watch as the cheating, the riots and the Soros machine steadily whittle down his lead and cruise to a massive, fraudulent victory.

Vote like you're going to win. Expect you will lose.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (2JVJo)

527 414 Obama's book is due out on the 17th it's called "A Promised Land" I expected it to be called "My Struggle" in Swahili.
Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 12:02 PM (ONvIw)

It should be called "Why I turned in my Assignment 2 Weeks Too Late, and I Don't Care."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (V2Yro)

528 test

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (HaL55)

529 Oregon Democrats disapprovingly refer to "hyper-politicization", meaning that "moderate" Peter DeFazio isn't fooling the rural Republicans in Southern Oregon anymore.

DeFazio also has a problem that the University of Oregon isn't in session (in person, at least), which always delivered him a big block of votes.

His district voted for Hillary by a few hundred votes - you have crazy Left-wing Eugene and environs, and the rest of the district, which is mostly deep red Republican.

A chunk of the Democratic vote are lunch-bucket Democrats in places like Springfield, who may not be too pleased by the impeachment vote either.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (I2/tG)

530 Ivanka looks good in white.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (5p7BC)

531 Odds if we do not retake the house, that the left wing cunts try impeachment again?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (85Gof)

532
Started rereading Arundel, by Kenneth L. Brown. It's the story of Steven Nason and his Abenaki Indian friends as they help Benedict Arnold's army through the Maine wilderness to attack Quebec in the Fall of 1775.

Kenneth L. Roberts was the author.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (pNxlR)

533 They are setting the theme for Wed morning : "Republicans stopped people from voting !!!11".

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (zr5Kq)

534 Landslide - when Hillary is buried by her mountain of lies and crimes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (0AJl/)

535 I have no idea. It may be different if he is there to provide his own name as a laurel for the organization or he is there as a high-powered front for a larger group.

Is Paul Ryan a name or a conspiracy? The viewing public wants to know!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 12:17 PM (WyVLE)

Some boards are more active than others. The board of my former employer (a hospital) was quiet on medical issues, but threatened to terminate the CEO, CFO and COO when they announced they were cutting nursing and support staff. It was interesting to watch the execs back down fast.

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (ONvIw)

536 100%

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 01, 2020 12:21 PM (iTXRQ)

537 "Odds if we do not retake the house, that the left wing cunts try impeachment again?"

100%

Posted by: navybrat, contemplatively at November 01, 2020 12:21 PM (w7KSn)

538 Because, IMO, it's a lot more damaging to the psyche to be confident of a yuge Trump win and then watch as the cheating, the riots and the Soros machine steadily whittle down his lead and cruise to a massive, fraudulent victory.

Vote like you're going to win. Expect you will lose.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (2JVJo)

I love the Jason from the Lake analogy, LOL! Yes, it has happened to us in the past, more than once - but consider this: This year, TRUMP is Jason from the Lake! Back from the Political Dead, in every liberal's mind!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:21 PM (V2Yro)

539 474 Odds if we do not retake the house, that the left wing cunts try impeachment again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (85Gof)

A certainty

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 12:21 PM (ONvIw)

540 White House: Unacceptable Dr. Anthony Fauci Playing Politics Three Days Before Election

"We like Tony, he's the best."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 01, 2020 12:22 PM (3P/5p)

541 I can't fathom how it could be good for anyone's psyche to, at this point in the process, be suddenly looking for a new way the Democrat boogeymen are going to emerge, like Jason from the lake, and somehow win the day.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 11:59 AM (hku12)

Because, IMO, it's a lot more damaging to the psyche to be confident of a yuge Trump win and then watch as the cheating, the riots and the Soros machine steadily whittle down his lead and cruise to a massive, fraudulent victory.

Vote like you're going to win. Expect you will lose.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (2JVJo)

I think a lot of people think it's less damaging to be pessimistic, but it's generally not.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:22 PM (hku12)

542 AUFKM?
Do the COB's not actually read each other's posts?
Critical drinker?
JFC.
Posted by: Egregious Johnson

Hahn?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2020 12:22 PM (eqpBs)

543 Books? Are those like a thing?

Posted by: Man-bunned Millennial at November 01, 2020 12:23 PM (saZtE)

544 474 Odds if we do not retake the house, that the left wing cunts try impeachment again?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (85Gof)

And IF they did, I predict that it would have the same results and be just as much of a wonderful future campaign issue as it has been this time around.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:23 PM (V2Yro)

545 473 Ivanka looks good in white.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (5p7BC)

__

And black and red and blue and purple an, well you get the idea.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:23 PM (22mNy)

546 "Odds if we do not retake the house, that the left wing cunts try impeachment again?"

Depends how many instigators will be either indicted or on way to indictment....

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:23 PM (zr5Kq)

547 Probably a good thing have Tuesday off to vote and then write for NaNoWriMo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2020 12:23 PM (0AJl/)

548 Started rereading Arundel, by Kenneth L. Brown. It's the story of Steven Nason and his Abenaki Indian friends as they help Benedict Arnold's army through the Maine wilderness to attack Quebec in the Fall of 1775.

Kenneth L. Roberts was the author.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (T

Crap, you're correct. How did I goof that? I've been reading his books for 50 years.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 01, 2020 12:24 PM (6yYEv)

549
No idea what you're trying to say here.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (hku12)

We just sorta wasted his precious time.
Don't think twice, it's alright.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:24 PM (pNxlR)

550 New poll showing Trump up by 4 in NH.

Poll, but...

I've been saying that NH will go for Trump early Tuesday night, and the Left will fucking freak.

None of them are predicting that NH will be close.

I read a story about how the betting markets for presidential races usually coalesce around the middle with every side assuming a close race, but this year the results are bifurcated with conservatives expecting a solid Trump win and progressives expecting a giant Biden win.

Progressives aren't expecting a narrow Biden win. NH going red will pop that massive Biden victory very early, and my favorite phrase for the next four years will be "BUT THE POLLS!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

551 Just heard from Iris. She's at the car parade staging area in DC. Told her to keep me posted.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 12:24 PM (sd8p8)

552 468 riots and looting and "ShutDown DC" are maybe separate things, idk.

The point of much of it is to influence the voters, so why would they do it AFTER the election? Unless they really are planninng a more violent coup, or some subversive form of it using their Resistance Fighters that do some radical action ... ? threaten all the electors at gunpoint, hold their families hostage?

Posted by: illiniwek at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (Cus5s)

Hillary is now an elector for the State Of New York.

It would be delicious if by some miracle New York flipped red and she HAD to vote for President Trump. It'd be the ultimate trolling.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at November 01, 2020 12:24 PM (8/7u2)

553 New poll showing Trump up by 4 in NH.

___

Source?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:25 PM (22mNy)

554 Do the COB's not actually read each other's posts?

Critical drinker?

JFC.
Posted by: Egregious Johnson at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM

No idea what you're trying to say here.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM

Maybe he's thinking that Will Jordan was mentioned on one of the other threads, like maybe the movie thread. Who knows? I've been trying to get people here to read his books for weeks, and I think it's awesome that he got a nice writeup by OM on the book thread.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 01, 2020 12:25 PM (qDSku)

555 Each state party has its own slate of Electors.

So Felonious voting for Trump is fiction.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 01, 2020 12:26 PM (0AJl/)

556 Are the Trump rallies versus the anemic Biden rallies indicative of what the "civil war" really looks like?

The real civil war is BigMoney, BigTech, MSM, some oligarchs and all their foundations ... against We The People. Most of their groups are well funded agitprop ... BLM and Antifa, but 100 smaller factions not seen in the streets so much. Global Warming is one of their fronts ... but their big lies are flailing (only 8 years left to save the world ... or is it 8 days?)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 01, 2020 12:26 PM (Cus5s)

557
Crap, you're correct. How did I goof that? I've been reading his books for 50 years.
Posted by: Beartooth

Thanks for bringing this up. I had read "Arundel" some time back and had intended to read more of Roberts' writings from that period. Time to put them back on my list.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:26 PM (pNxlR)

558 *waves to Sharon and Iris*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (xRn8c)

559 Trump in Michigan now on Fox.

Chants of 'We love you.'

CNN is going with comedy programming...'Reliable Sources' is on.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (v2c9/)

560 OregonMuse, the photo of the dusty bookshop where the little old man is reading: where is that?

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (EbSTN)

561 Because, IMO, it's a lot more damaging to the psyche to be confident of a yuge Trump win and then watch as the cheating, the riots and the Soros machine steadily whittle down his lead and cruise to a massive, fraudulent victory.

Vote like you're going to win. Expect you will lose.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
------------
Not the way I'm wired I guess. I don't like to pretend things that don't exist do.

I don't believe in ghosts.

I don't believe in aliens.

I don't care to waste time worrying about things that aren't likely to happen based on multiple data sets that say they won't happen.

Can Biden win? Yeah, there is a chance for it happening, but it would take a massive failure of election day voting for it to happen.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (5p7BC)

562 Our buddy Q is making it sound as though there's some scorched-earth justice, coming our way.
for what it's worth.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (AwPyG)

563 No idea what you're trying to say here.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM (hku12)

We just sorta wasted his precious time.
Don't think twice, it's alright.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 01, 2020 12:24 PM (pNxlR)

I'm trying to be understanding.

I am aware there are relative newcomers here, and they may not know there's a time-honored tradition here at the AoSHQ, for one thread to be devoted to a particular topic, sometimes on weekends, or from JJ's morning threads, or the Ape threads... and then Ace comes along and posts something that basically repeats the topic.

I can't understand getting mad about it though.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (hku12)

564 I have hope my little but powerful county does get a Republican Congressman who happens to be a black woman. Hoping enough otherwise Democrat voters feel the need to vote for a black woman to prove they are not racist.

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (OjZpE)

565 >>Progressives aren't expecting a narrow Biden win. NH going red will pop that massive Biden victory very early, and my favorite phrase for the next four years will be "BUT THE POLLS!"

I thought it already was.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (ZLI7S)

566 504 Our buddy Q is making it sound as though there's some scorched-earth justice, coming our way.
for what it's worth.
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (AwPyG)

___

#TwoWeeks

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (22mNy)

567 Snowing in MI?

Goes well with left wing tears

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (85Gof)

568 Cold in Michigan. You can tell Trump's lips are getting numb from the wind.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (KfC1e)

569 504 Our buddy Q is making it sound as though there's some scorched-earth justice, coming our way.
for what it's worth.
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (AwPyG)

Trust Jeff Sessions....

Posted by: CN at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (ONvIw)

570 This crowd is fired up

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (5p7BC)

571 507 >>Progressives aren't expecting a narrow Biden win. NH going red will pop that massive Biden victory very early, and my favorite phrase for the next four years will be "BUT THE POLLS!"

I thought it already was.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (ZLI7S)

=========

Currently at #2 after the present #1:

"Bite my shiny metal ass."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:29 PM (LvTSG)

572 Odds if we do not retake the house, that the left wing cunts try impeachment again?

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I expect the Dems to impeach again before the inauguration if they lose the House.

Posted by: Methos at November 01, 2020 12:29 PM (kOpft)

573
have we heard anything about the Trump car parade around the 610 Loop in Houston?

'sposed to be a BFD

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 01, 2020 12:29 PM (DUIap)

574 Am I the only one who misses the gaming threads?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping
Jeesh, I wish these existed. I decided to buy one of the Call of Duty games. And there is a point where my computer partner is supposed to rescue me from falling down a shear ice wall. But he never does...I am stuck...not really cause I keep falling to my death, but you know what I mean.

Posted by: MikeM at November 01, 2020 12:29 PM (3F0Ql)

575 495�New poll showing Trump up by 4 in NH.

___

Source?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:25 PM (22mNy)

Democracy Institute. Also released a poll showing Trump +1 nationally, and predicted Trump would win 320 EV (all from 2016 plus NH and MN)

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 01, 2020 12:30 PM (n4MGB)

576 NH going red

Ahem.

Posted by: Massachusetts Residents Fraudulently Voting In NH, Like Last Time! at November 01, 2020 12:30 PM (I2/tG)

577 Pearl Jam did a cover of "don't think twice, it's alright" and it was pretty good.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:30 PM (AwPyG)

578 PDT in his "45"-emblazoned red MAGA cap.

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:30 PM (EbSTN)

579 Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:18 PM

Maybe he's thinking that Will Jordan was mentioned on one of the other threads, like maybe the movie thread. Who knows? I've been trying to get people here to read his books for weeks, and I think it's awesome that he got a nice writeup by OM on the book thread.
Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 01, 2020 12:25 PM (qDSku)

Yep, I downloaded one of this books to my Kindle, but I'm so out of the habit of reading from my Kindle, it's just sitting there. I think I actually paid for it too. Might have been something like 99 cents, but still, that's real money.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:30 PM (hku12)

580 have we heard anything about the Trump car parade around the 610 Loop in Houston?

'sposed to be a BFD

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 01, 2020 12:29 PM (DUIap)

top of sidebar?

Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (AwYPR)

581 RSBN is sweeping the Washington, MI crowd. A few thousand hearty souls.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (/2aWP)

582 503 Because, IMO, it's a lot more damaging to the psyche to be confident of a yuge Trump win and then watch as the cheating, the riots and the Soros machine steadily whittle down his lead and cruise to a massive, fraudulent victory.

Vote like you're going to win. Expect you will lose.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
------------
Not the way I'm wired I guess. I don't like to pretend things that don't exist do.

I don't believe in ghosts.

I don't believe in aliens.

I don't care to waste time worrying about things that aren't likely to happen based on multiple data sets that say they won't happen.

Can Biden win? Yeah, there is a chance for it happening, but it would take a massive failure of election day voting for it to happen.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (5p7BC)

What are the odds of, "Due to COVID-19 concerns, we're closing the polling stations."? It'd take hours to get something done about that, and it would at least result in some lost votes.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (H3MF8)

583 In predicting the new House, I suggest that one START by remembering that: 1) the NC state supreme court in 2019 redistricted two seats into an automatic DEM pickup; & 2) the 5 GOP CA seats that flipped red-to-blue, thx to vote harvesting, aren't coming back (in all probability).

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (Cssks)

584 OK, folks, going to settle down and read the afternoon away.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (2JVJo)

585 When PDT wins, I hope he'll keep having fun rallies.

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (EbSTN)

586 524
What are the odds of, "Due to COVID-19 concerns, we're closing the polling stations."? It'd take hours to get something done about that, and it would at least result in some lost votes.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (H3MF

==========

Courts move fast on election day.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

587 "And THREE Supreme Court justices!"

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:33 PM (EbSTN)

588 525 In predicting the new House, I suggest that one START by remembering that: 1) the NC state supreme court in 2019 redistricted two seats into an automatic DEM pickup; & 2) the 5 GOP CA seats that flipped red-to-blue, thx to vote harvesting, aren't coming back (in all probability).
Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (Cssks)

========

Well, CA-25 got won in a special election, and it wasn't that close.

And Democrats are so pissed about Republicans actually doing ballot harvesting in CA that they tried to get them shut down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

589 Democracy Institute. Also released a poll showing Trump +1 nationally, and predicted Trump would win 320 EV (all from 2016 plus NH and MN)
Posted by: Tofer732 at November 01, 2020 12:30 PM (n4MGB)

___

Thanks

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:33 PM (22mNy)

590 Odds if we do not retake the house, that the left wing cunts try impeachment again?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:20 PM (85Gof)

With a fully armed and operational deathstar trump with no more elections to worry about and no fucks left to give? Yeah that ought to be good.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 01, 2020 12:33 PM (9Om/r)

591 Posted by: Captain Obvious
Waves back.

I know what you are going to say on Tuesday.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (sd8p8)

592 What are the odds of, "Due to COVID-19 concerns, we're closing the polling stations."? It'd take hours to get something done about that, and it would at least result in some lost votes.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler
--------------
I think effectively zero. The Dems now need election day turnout. They don't have the early votes they need.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (5p7BC)

593 The difference between PDT having fun at a rally and the man in mean senile mode on the other side

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (85Gof)

594 Our buddy Q is making it sound as though there's some scorched-earth justice, coming our way.
for what it's worth.

"It's gonna be biblical.", he often says.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (fFtVH)

595 I heard there is a Trump car parade heading to Wilmington, DE. Hopefully they all honk on the way by Biden's basement.

Posted by: jsg at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (Hjk3K)

596 Nice sweatshirt in the crowd behind PT: PRAY 45

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:35 PM (EbSTN)

597 @528
And the national guard has been deployed to 17 (?) cities now.
Under the radar, like the fact that the DNI is monitoring election integrity.
Trumps a mastermind, people; don't forget it for a moment

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:35 PM (AwPyG)

598 I'm curious about the congressional races that no one is talking about. Are we stuck forever with the sharia squad? Do any of these excellent black republican candidates stand a chance?
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 11:48 AM (sd8p

with the way Polling has been wrecked, I think we just have to hope that Trump has long coat tails.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 11:56 AM (V2Yro)

=========

I really want John James to win. There's also a great guy running against Crazy Maxine Waters, but that's an incredible long shot in California, even with the biggest of Trump coattails

Posted by: LASue at November 01, 2020 12:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

599 Posted by: Captain Obvious
Waves back.

I know what you are going to say on Tuesday.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (sd8p

-----
*grins roguishly*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:35 PM (xRn8c)

600 I think effectively zero. The Dems now need election day turnout. They don't have the early votes they need.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (5p7BC)

On the way!

Posted by: Fat Democrat Operative Sal in his Buick LeSabre at November 01, 2020 12:36 PM (R/m4+)

601 @536
Maybe that's why it's taking so long.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:36 PM (AwPyG)

602 Not the way I'm wired I guess. I don't like to pretend things that don't exist do.

I don't believe in ghosts.

I don't believe in aliens.

I don't care to waste time worrying about things that aren't likely to happen based on multiple data sets that say they won't happen.

Can Biden win? Yeah, there is a chance for it happening, but it would take a massive failure of election day voting for it to happen.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (5p7BC)

It's like watching a boxing match. If you've seen enough fights, you know how many of them are going to turn out before they even start. There's just some things that are obvious.

But the ones that appear to be going the distance, even if the eventual winner does nothing to knock down or knock out the opponent, it still becomes apparent he's going to win.

You can see it, and you know from seeing it many times before, this is going to turn out one way.

Unless.....

So yeah, if you're in the ring with someone who can lift his hands, there's always a chance he's going to clean your clock. It's happened before. It can appear to come out of nowhere (even though with review you can see how it didn't).

It happens once in a blue moon (Oops! We just had one of those!!), but almost every other time, it doesn't.

Keep your hands up, keep fighting, throw your punches effectively, and for pete's sake don't act like you've won before the score cards are read. If you've built up your lead by fighting smart, you'll end up the victor.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:36 PM (hku12)

603 How about a picture of a library in the Congo?
I know they can put to shame all your White libraries.

Posted by: Don at November 01, 2020 12:36 PM (mwDnq)

604 NH votes Donny Two-scoops in we are heading to a romp, next you will tell me Massachusetts ill.

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:36 PM (OjZpE)

605 I think effectively zero. The Dems now need election day turnout. They don't have the early votes they need.

Just heard another voting plea on the radio. "...and remember, the results aren't final until every vote is counted."

Sela Ward was voicing it, so I listened!

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (KDCRD)

606 What are the odds of, "Due to COVID-19 concerns, we're closing the
polling stations."? It'd take hours to get something done about that,
and it would at least result in some lost votes.
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How many blue governor swing states need (pick grievance group) to show up on election day because the mail in ballots haven't shown up in the numbers they were expecting?

Posted by: Methos at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (kOpft)

607 Democracy Institute. Also released a poll showing Trump +1 nationally, and predicted Trump would win 320 EV (all from 2016 plus NH and MN)
Posted by: Tofer732
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I've been waiting for their poll. They are a very good polling firm. Puts them in line with Trafalgar, Baris, and Rasmussen.

They only poll once a month though.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (5p7BC)

608 British Raj, a subject of great interest to me.

Posted by: pep at November 01, 2020 10:22 AM (v16oJ)

Me too, very much! Especially how social and military stratification worked in those years. Can you recommend material on this topic that you found useful?

Posted by: Mongerel at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (HCHPz)

609 Milksop is also a good one if you get tired of saying soyboys

==

Pantywaist.
Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 10:49 AM (zr5Kq)

Do I hear "soysop"?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2020 12:38 PM (6pYu7)

610 A book I've mentioned in other threads, but have missed this thread for a while: Hitler's Beneficiaries, by Gotz Aly.

He explores the financial side of Nazism within Germany, and of Germany's war-time situation. Tax policy, etc. The populist-socialist nature of Nazi policies at home, from "seizure of power" through to the fiery collapse, is explained.

And much of the book is focused on how theft from deported/murdered Jews, and the looting of occupied countries (and the shake-down of "allies") were all crucial to Germany's war-time finances. He estimates that 1/3 of Germany't total war-time expenditures were financed through these means.

The looting of occupied countries had the most information new to me. Because the "looting", for the most part, was not smash/grab, not "requisition" at gun-point - oh no, it was much more subtle and clever, and devastating for the country victimized.

Brutally summarized, Germany forced these countries to print money and divert almost all of their public budgets to finance German occupation costs (wildly inflated beyond the real number, of course), thus relieving the burden on the German budget.

The most ingenious method here was the use of a kind of special occupation scrip, Reich Credit notes, which were issued to soldiers. They would use these as currency to buy goods on the local economy. The merchants and banks could then take them to the national central bank, where they could be exchanged for local currency (forcing the central bank to print money). Voila. Occupied countries paid (with a large bogus padded portion) the costs of their being occupied, Germany's budget was spared the expense.

Another main method of theft, on the state level, was for Germany to run up essentially huge trade deficits/debits with countries - occupied, or "allies" - and of course not pay them. Often Germany "paid" the victims with German war bonds (this was also used to "pay" the central banks printing money to cover the occupation scrip currency).

For those interested in the subject, pair this book with Alan Tooze's "Wages of Destruction" - a much longer and more detailed examination of all things financial and economic in Nazi Germany, and one which delves into Nazi ideology and personalities involved in some detail.

Aly's work was financed by the Holocaust Museum, so there is extensive - and appropriate - focus on the dispossession of Jews in Germany and Europe, and how that was key to financing Nazi evil (I think he sort of breaks new ground documenting how the theft of gold of the Jewish community of Salonika in Greece was key to stabilizing the Greek currency when it started to hyper-inflate).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:38 PM (OTzUX)

611 A friend sent this around again this morning.

https://tinyurl.com/yxfy8zr3

Posted by: LASue at November 01, 2020 12:38 PM (Ed8Zd)

612 Trump people protecting Biden bus yesterday
Lol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:38 PM (85Gof)

613
top of sidebar?

Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM

that one was earlier in the week

there's a big car rally what's 'sposed to be happening right now around the 610 Loop in Houston

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 01, 2020 12:38 PM (DUIap)

614 186 I wish that there was a business that specialized in tracking down missing books from your youth.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast
My mom decided to find one of my favorite books "Ship Afire" using her friends at the local library instead of Amazon. After finding an age inappropriate book with the same title, she found the right one. It was a really good book for a 10 year old, no so much, 40 years later.

Posted by: Downcast at November 01, 2020 12:39 PM (Ob/r2)

615 Bryan Ferry's cover is better.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:39 PM (qiqGr)

616 "Did you see our cars protecting their bus the other day?"

Ha. The best.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:39 PM (KDCRD)

617 TJM

CA-25 was the FIRST time I really took hope that Trump might win re-election, after the '18 disaster.*

*(altho the Senate was no disaster in '18, which is often overlooked)

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2020 12:39 PM (Cssks)

618 512 Just to double-check, there's no master list of morons with all of the books they wrote?

Posted by: Stateless Infidel

I started a list here but haven't updated in quite a whiile

http://www.bookhorde.org/p/aoshq-authors.html

Posted by: vmom review - Behind the Black Mask: My Time as an Antifa Activist at November 01, 2020 12:39 PM (nUhF0)

619 G- D will keep you warm

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:40 PM (85Gof)

620 They only poll once a month though.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (5p7BC)

I poll twice a night...and three times on Saturday!

Posted by: Tiffani (with a heart) at November 01, 2020 12:40 PM (xT2tT)

621 "You burn the American flag, you go to jail for one year."

Surely this didn't test well.

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:41 PM (EbSTN)

622 One of the things I'm apprehensive about is an extremely important local race in my county for sheriff. A Soros-backed female who technically shouldn't even be on the ballot is running against a pretty decent moderate-to-conservative candidate. Red George has just poured cash into her campaign. She's a Kameltoe clone and if she wins, I foresee a bad moon arising, especially with regards to 2-A and concealed carry permit procedures.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 01, 2020 12:41 PM (EgshT)

623 528 524
What are the odds of, "Due to COVID-19 concerns, we're closing the polling stations."? It'd take hours to get something done about that, and it would at least result in some lost votes.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:31 PM (H3MF

==========

Courts move fast on election day.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at November 01, 2020 12:32 PM (LvTSG)

Not necessarily in the right direction, though. On the plus side, Trump's lawyers are probably thinking about the same thing, and likely have a plan for it.

I'm cautiously optimistic, but still just a little worried.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:41 PM (H3MF8)

624 PDT having a great time out there

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:42 PM (85Gof)

625 It's so cold out here, "You must love Trump!"

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:42 PM (EbSTN)

626
I think effectively zero. The Dems now need election day turnout. They don't have the early votes they need.

And they've konvinced the Karens that Kovid will kill them, so how kan they turn out?

Posted by: Man-bunned Millennial at November 01, 2020 12:42 PM (saZtE)

627 Still trying to figure out these national polls. WSJ puts out one with Biden up 10 nationally. It is a poll of RV's (still), with a D+6 sample. Also has Trump approval at 45 (with him only getting 42 or 43% in the poll). They obviously over sampled Dems, and using RV's is ridiculous, but I can only guess that people are flat out lying to them.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 01, 2020 12:42 PM (n4MGB)

628 We seem to be seeing duplicate posts.

We seem to be seeing duplicate posts.

We seem to be seeing duplicate posts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2020 12:43 PM (idA4w)

629 t-bird that was the Wise Latina's argument, why the He'll not just count them until Christmas then?

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:43 PM (OjZpE)

630 Remember in White Christmas, they did a very funny
send-up of the beat craze. there couldn't be a bigger contrast between
what the left thought was cool, and old fashioned entertainment.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 11:03 AM (AwPyG)

One of the funnier SCTV sketches was Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young in concert. Except it was Bing Crosby instead of David and they were singing White Christmas.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 01, 2020 12:43 PM (2rIKM)

631 659 "most respected pollster" is like saying "most respected dirty, mangy dog."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (XJipD)

A dirty mangy dog can get a bath and medication to clean up.

Pollsters, not so much.

Posted by: buzzion at November 01, 2020 12:43 PM (vMCab)

632 32 What is the male equivalent of a Karen?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 01, 2020 10:17 AM (rpbg1)

Kerrin?

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:43 PM (EbSTN)

633 534 What are the odds of, "Due to COVID-19 concerns, we're closing the polling stations."? It'd take hours to get something done about that, and it would at least result in some lost votes.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler
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I think effectively zero. The Dems now need election day turnout. They don't have the early votes they need.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:34 PM (5p7BC)

That is a good point, Dave! Thanks!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:43 PM (H3MF8)

634 Oh LaSue t

That was wonderful, awe inspiring.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (sd8p8)

635 >> Pearl Jam did a cover of "don't think twice, it's alright" and it was pretty good.

Not if Eddie Vedder is singing.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (kPkPf)

636 "Any good books on the Middle Ages up to the Renaissance period?
Posted by: dantesed "

Plenty. Fiction or Nonfiction?

Posted by: Tuna at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (gLRfa)

637 Lol lol

'Sister, do you think this is honest?'

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (v2c9/)

638 I think the comments are broken.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (idA4w)

639 Without redistricting or massive actual population changes, why would the 5 CA House seats "never come back"? How does that work?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (OTzUX)

640 Still trying to figure out these national polls.

Posted by: Tofer732 at November 01, 2020 12:42 PM (n4MGB)

Why waste your time?

Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (AwYPR)

641 Sela Ward was voicing it, so I listened!
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (KDCRD)

Back in the day I thought she was gorgeous.

Haven't seen her in awhile but hope she has aged well.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 12:45 PM (R/m4+)

642 @558

90% of congress is crooked, so everyone's goal in 2018 was to get Dem majorities and impeach Trump. That's why so many GOP retired, and Calif rolled out the ballot harvesting plan with no counter by the Cal Gop.
Mitch pitched in by sinking the senate Alabama race.

Trump, of course, saw it coming from a mile away, and did his rallies to shore up the senate.
You could see the palpable disappointment in the results, by both sides. They went ahead with impeachment anyway, but it was a lost cause.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:45 PM (AwPyG)

643 Not if Eddie Vedder is singing.
Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (kPkPf)

Does Eddie Vedder sing?

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:45 PM (hku12)

644 I suspect that some of those early Dem votes are actually for Trump, too. A survey from one recent Trump rally found that 29% of attendees were Democrats.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:46 PM (H3MF8)

645 Posted by: Tofer732 at November 01, 2020 12:42 PM (n4MGB)

Why waste your time?
Posted by: BignJames at November 01, 2020 12:44 PM (AwYPR)

I'm still trying to figure out how we ended up with more than one post here on AoSHQ that mentions Critical Drinker.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:47 PM (hku12)

646 "If Biden wins, China wins. When we win, American wins!"

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:47 PM (EbSTN)

647 Still trying to figure out these national polls. WSJ puts out one with Biden up 10 nationally. It is a poll of RV's (still), with a D+6 sample. Also has Trump approval at 45 (with him only getting 42 or 43% in the poll). They obviously over sampled Dems, and using RV's is ridiculous, but I can only guess that people are flat out lying to them.
Posted by: Tofer732
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Go read my front page post from yesterday. That explains it.

Don't waste your time trying to understand.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:47 PM (5p7BC)

648 Sela Ward was voicing it, so I listened!
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (KDCRD)

Back in the day I thought she was gorgeous.

Haven't seen her in awhile but hope she has aged well.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 12:45 PM (R/m4+)
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She is still very lovely.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (xRn8c)

649 Back in the day I thought she was gorgeous.

Haven't seen her in awhile but hope she has aged well.

She hasn't aged at all in my head.

Man, Trump, is just rolling out there in the wind chill.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (WLHrn)

650 Prothonotary, I believe the demo data from Trump events going back years shows a consistent pattern of around 20-25% self-ID'd Dems, and about the same number of "infrequent voters", based on voting in last few cycles.

This is the secret sauce in Trump's "base", a key factor bedeviling pollsters, and, I think, one factor that makes some of this "early voting" data not what it seems (i.e., a significant and in some cases material % of "D" votes are for Trump).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (OTzUX)

651 Looks like Biden has NV.

Posted by: Ha at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (FHHuk)

652 Leftism is an ersatz religion. We're at the stage
where its adherents are being asked to will Biden into the White House
with the intensity of their belief.

It worked for Tinker Bell, didn't it?
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2020 11:45 AM (9TdxA)

I have said before, this is not the flight 93 election, this is The People's Church Guyana Compound election for the Dems.
Keep an eye out and be careful they will try to pull the pillars down with them.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (WyVLE)

653 Would it be Bonus Kink looking at Troi porn, cuz she would know?

Posted by: klaftern at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (RuIsu)

654 Assuming that polling companies are worried about their credibility is the mistake.

There are plenty of people who will always be willing to pay them to manufacture the propaganda they want.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (saZtE)

655 2016 made me give up looking at polls, now I just sick my fingers over my eyes when they come up.

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (OjZpE)

656 Sela Ward was voicing it, so I listened!
Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (KDCRD)

Back in the day I thought she was gorgeous.

Haven't seen her in awhile but hope she has aged well.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 12:45 PM (R/m4+)

Everyone has their own taste, and for me there was always something off about her.

Like she was somebody's idea what a glamorous woman was supposed to look like, and that someone was an alien from another planet.

I kinda think when she was younger, she looked like a woman who was older than she was, and perhaps now that she's older she looks younger than she is.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (hku12)

657 I am aware there are relative newcomers here, and they may not know there's a time-honored tradition here at the AoSHQ, for one thread to be devoted to a particular topic, sometimes on weekends, or from JJ's morning threads, or the Ape threads... and then Ace comes along and posts something that basically repeats the topic.

I can't understand getting mad about it though.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (hku12)

another time honored tradition is that after 100 comments, we all just talk about whatever we feel like talking about.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (V2Yro)

658 "White Christmas" was a remake of "Holiday Inn" in which Fred Astaire was Bing's buddy and did a much better job than Danny Kaye.

This movie was background video at a bar my daughter's company hired out for a party, one of those things where nobody watches.

There is a scene where Bing is in blackface.

Shit hit the fan on that bigtime.

Posted by: Auspex at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (Xo3T0)

659 Sela Ward was voicing it, so I listened!

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (KDCRD)

Back in the day I thought she was gorgeous.

Haven't seen her in awhile but hope she has aged well.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 12:45 PM (R/m4+)

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She is still very lovely.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (xRn8c)

Yeah, she was a natural beauty.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 01, 2020 12:51 PM (9Om/r)

660 Looks like Biden has NV.
Posted by: Ha at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (FHHuk)

China has a lot of money floating in NV.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:51 PM (zr5Kq)

661 https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/1322943313809272839?s=20

And so it begins. Nate Bronze says w/o PA, Biden is done.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:51 PM (22mNy)

662 "most respected pollster" is like saying "most respected dirty, mangy dog."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (XJipD)

663 And so it begins. Nate Bronze says w/o PA, Biden is done.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 01, 2020 12:51 PM (22mNy)

Or IA or FL...

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (zr5Kq)

664 Lots of rain in Portland election night, and for several days after.

How sad.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 01, 2020 11:47 AM (I2/tG)

I never understood why the PDX cops didn't decide to put officers and city workers on top of the the buildings to run fire hoses on on full dispersion onto the streets making it rain on the riots. No direct shots, just a ready regular rain.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (WyVLE)

665 @595
Uh, no; White Christmas is not a remake of Holiday Inn. completely different plots.
Same song, though--that may be what you're thinking.

Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (AwPyG)

666 ..or OH...

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (zr5Kq)

667 Riots and court actions are very unlikely to affect the outcome, but the House result is very likely to affect the significance of the outcome. Without a GOP House (however close-to-useless it is *still* likely to be), Trump will still have a large chain hung around his neck.

Which will presumably lead to an acceleration of the descent into rule-by-decree, which (in the DACA case) SCOTUS has, incredibly, kind of endorsed. Incredible, and scary.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

668 They only poll once a month though. Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:37 PM (5p7BC)

**************************

TargetEarly has updated, so I ran to check numbers.

Nationally, Ds are doing about the same with a very slight lower percentage for GOP, but the critical battleground states was intriguing to look at.

It's very consistent in that Ds are underperforming compared to 2016 and the GOP are overperforming. If it was just a one off in one state I wouldn't make much of it but it's been consistent everywhere except Pennsylvania where the absentee ballot rules are different and rural areas are being underrreported.

The most telling was Wisconsin, where they have a 10% collapse in Ds returns while the GOP has been pretty static.

This all points to a low turnout by D while GOP are showing enthusiasm and to me it shows Trump's ground game in battleground states have been effective.

Don't want to get my hopes up though, but I am cautiously optimistic.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (8YFRI)

669 Margaret Dumont: "Biden and Harris were sent by God."

Groucho Marx: "Why? Was he out of locusts"

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - A vote for Biden is a vote for the ChiComs at November 01, 2020 11:14 AM (HaL55)

Heh. I saw that yesterday in Powerline's "week in pictures". Very clever, because it sounds exactly like a Groucho quip.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2020 12:52 PM (YEC5t)

670 Dave, keep up the great work. I am a long time lurker here.

How do you do your analysis? What are our sources of data? Do you roll up everything by county?

I am still very, very nervous but you have given me some hope.

Posted by: I come here for Dave's comments at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (a50OP)

671 "Haven't seen her in awhile but hope she has aged well."

Last time I saw Sela Ward was on "House". Now that was some years ago but she was still lovely. BTW, she played House's ex girlfriend.

Posted by: Tuna at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (gLRfa)

672 587 Prothonotary, I believe the demo data from Trump events going back years shows a consistent pattern of around 20-25% self-ID'd Dems, and about the same number of "infrequent voters", based on voting in last few cycles.

This is the secret sauce in Trump's "base", a key factor bedeviling pollsters, and, I think, one factor that makes some of this "early voting" data not what it seems (i.e., a significant and in some cases material % of "D" votes are for Trump).
Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (OTzUX)

His big gains in the black and Hispanic communities are also cause for optimism.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (H3MF8)

673 I am aware there are relative newcomers here, and they may not know there's a time-honored tradition here at the AoSHQ, for one thread to be devoted to a particular topic, sometimes on weekends, or from JJ's morning threads, or the Ape threads... and then Ace comes along and posts something that basically repeats the topic.

I can't understand getting mad about it though.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:28 PM (hku12)

another time honored tradition is that after 100 comments, we all just talk about whatever we feel like talking about.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (V2Yro)

I was genuinely curious what the problem was, for the guy complaining about a post mentioned Critical Drinker.

But then, I guess he just wanted to drop a turd and leave.

Oh well.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (hku12)

674 FBI is deep state, ain't it.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (zr5Kq)

675 Oh, that was the best clip ever.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (WLHrn)

676 Had no idea who Sela Ward was, Googled and still don't

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (OjZpE)

677 PDT having a blast in MI

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 01, 2020 12:54 PM (85Gof)

678 How does NV look good for Biden? Last numbers I saw, not so much.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:54 PM (OTzUX)

679 Remember Temple of the Dog? First time I heard Cornell sing.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:54 PM (qiqGr)

680 I come here for Dave's comments

==

yes, but you should stay for our witty repartee

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:54 PM (zr5Kq)

681 >A friend sent this around again this morning.

good stuff

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 01, 2020 12:55 PM (iTXRQ)

682 Nevada is weird, too close to CA

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2020 12:55 PM (zr5Kq)

683 590 Would it be Bonus Kink looking at Troi porn, cuz she would know?
Posted by: klaftern at November 01, 2020 12:50 PM (RuIsu)

Ask Reginald Barclay about that.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 01, 2020 12:55 PM (H3MF8)

684 Alabama cheerleader.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at November 01, 2020 12:55 PM (qiqGr)

685 "Looks like Biden has NV. "

I don't usually chime in on this stuff because I k ow shit about it. But I will tell you the people I know from Nevada, pretty apolitical people who don't always vote, are heading to vote on Election Day.

Their main motivation is they feel Democrats will destroy our republic. That's not hyperbole. That's a quote from people who are demonstrably pedestrian voters.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at November 01, 2020 12:55 PM (vPQLm)

686 She is still very lovely.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Sea Chump at November 01, 2020 12:49 PM (xRn8c)

Nice!

Thanks Captain.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 01, 2020 12:55 PM (R/m4+)

687 Prothonotary, well much of that is the same thing - D crossovers being black or Hispanic.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:56 PM (OTzUX)

688 "Uh, no; White Christmas is not a remake of Holiday Inn. completely different plots.
Same song, though--that may be what you're thinking."

Indeed. "Holiday Inn" is my favorite Christmas movie. Fred Astaire, Bing Crosby..what's not to love?

Posted by: Tuna at November 01, 2020 12:56 PM (gLRfa)

689 >another time honored tradition is that after 100 comments, we all just talk about whatever we feel like talking about.

and the guys GET SHIRTS

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 01, 2020 12:56 PM (iTXRQ)

690 613 Had no idea who Sela Ward was, Googled and still don't
Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (OjZpE)

Check out the movie "Nothing in Common" with Tom Hanks, Sela Ward, Jackie Gleason, and Eva Marie Saint (and a spiffy Hector Elizondo)

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 01, 2020 12:56 PM (PiwSw)

691 I really recommend that everyone take the time to watch rallies today and soak it in. You are going to look back at this moment in the future.

10,000 people in the snow and wind in Michigan hanging on Trump's every word. Fired up and enthusiasm off the chart.

I really think this election is over.

We are watching one of the best campaigns in history rolling over the worst campaign of all time.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (5p7BC)

692 test test test

Posted by: vmom review - Behind the Black Mask: My Time as an Antifa Activist at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (nUhF0)

693 Why I have begun to believe in a Trump win - bolstered by all the excellent posts and info here - I look at the polls the Dems are relying on, I see how they come up with them, and I can see the crap methods they are using to generate the numbers. I know they're lying. That in itself doesn't mean Trump is winning, but it means their confidence in numbers if very misplaced.

and then I look, as Dave has often said, at every other indicator of support other than polls, and Trump is way ahead in every one.

Dems are counting on this being a Brave New World, with an election driven by Media and Internet control only, unlike any other election ever in our history.

We're counting on it being an election a whole lot like every other election for the last 200+ years, and that people are once again going to be inspired to get out and vote just like always.

I like our odds.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (V2Yro)

694 >>Remember Temple of the Dog? First time I heard Cornell sing.

Was into Saoundgraden early. Saw most all of their shows in NYC before I left in 1992.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (ONSF4)

695 >>> 460 434 @403
I suppose we've been conditioned to expect Jason from the lake. See: John Roberts; John McCain; Mitt Romney; Jeff sessions, etc, etc,
Posted by: artemis at November 01, 2020 12:09 PM (AwPyG)

With hindsight though, we figure out none of what appeared to be treason from these jackwagons was actually a change of direction for them.

They are who they are.

However, people here on the AoSHQ seem to believe the Democrats are filled with some kind of supernatural cunning or wisdom or planning or whatever, and they're going to rise from the dead, out of the lake or grave or whatever, to git us.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (hku12)

>>> 470
.....
Because, IMO, it's a lot more damaging to the psyche to be confident of a yuge Trump win and then watch as the cheating, the riots and the Soros machine steadily whittle down his lead and cruise to a massive, fraudulent victory.

Vote like you're going to win. Expect you will lose.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (2JVJo)

The collectivists' "superpower" is having absofukinglutely no conscience. Their "kryptonite" is they are neither as smart or as numerous as they think they are.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (/kh7m)

696 runner yes it is

Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (OjZpE)

697 How does NV look good for Biden? Last numbers I saw, not so much.

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They (D) were 90,000 votes ahead at this stage of the game in 2016.

Now? Tied up.

Race is tighter than an anal retentive Karen.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Hoping Against Hope Hope Hicks Will Be My Fluffy Bunny Snuggles at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (8YFRI)

698 Their main motivation is they feel Democrats will destroy our republic. That's not hyperbole. That's a quote from people who are demonstrably pedestrian voters.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at November 01, 2020 12:55 PM (vPQLm)

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I don't think the left realizes how many people don't want the country to move left. They didn't realize Obama was doing it because they were voting for f*cking skin color to somehow convince themselves they weren't racist because they were voting for skin color (square that circle), and they had no idea what Obama and his cohorts were planning.

They have to get this sh*t right or things are going to get really, really bad. No do-overs if Trump loses this one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at November 01, 2020 12:58 PM (CM8Oa)

699 Longest book thread ever. Both time and content.

Posted by: Alabaster Jones at November 01, 2020 12:58 PM (2DOZq)

700 NV is weird, but nothing to do with CA. Clark County Dem machine, more like a Midwestern or eastern city of 40 years ago, that's what's weird, in the middle of the desert.

But the make-up of the base for that machine - service workers - is also significantly Hispanic and of course non-college whites. Hence the scenario for Trump to take NV. He lost it by 26K votes last time.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 01, 2020 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

701 If G-d did send Biden and Harris, it would have to be some kind of reverse Sodom play... Like "prove your virtue by brutally violating these, my handpicked harbingers of wickedness and corruption!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 01, 2020 12:58 PM (XJipD)

702 Had no idea who Sela Ward was, Googled and still don't
Posted by: Skip at November 01, 2020 12:53 PM (OjZpE)

Mostly a teevee actress, I think. She had a starring role in something or other that was popular back in the day. No idea what. Probably one of those earnest lawyer shows.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:58 PM (hku12)

703 >We are watching one of the best campaigns in history

the staffer who came up with the 'fly-in campaign rally' concept needs a helluva pay raise

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 01, 2020 12:58 PM (iTXRQ)

704 Sadly, all the Democrats have to do is win one more election. They know it, too.

Patient and with a plan.

Posted by: Moron Robbie's 503 cubic inches say thank you for your windmills and solar panels at November 01, 2020 12:59 PM (CM8Oa)

705 The collectivists' "superpower" is having absofukinglutely no conscience. Their "kryptonite" is they are neither as smart or as numerous as they think they are.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2020 12:57 PM (/kh7m)

Well said.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 01, 2020 12:59 PM (hku12)

706
426 "I recently read Rickles' auto biography.

He had a hard time starting out....not a lot of people "got" his brand of humor.

Go figure.....!"
Oh, I got it all right. It was unfunny and atrocious.
And SNL was never funny. That these two are considered great humor is one of those cliffs we fell off of in the culture wars.

Posted by: Brett at November 01, 2020 01:10 PM (xBWeZ)

707 That library is all that remains of the original Parliament building in Ottawa. In the middle of WWI, it caught fire during a session, and the fire burned down everything else. Only someone slamming shut a steel fire door kept the fire from spreading to the library. The present Parliament building was built on the site of the original one, and attached to the still-standing library.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at November 01, 2020 01:55 PM (zFG+C)

708 One of the funnier SCTV sketches was Crosby, Stills,
Nash and Young in concert. Except it was Bing Crosby instead of David
and they were singing White Christmas.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 01, 2020 12:43 PM (2rIKM)

Another funny one was Rich Moranis as Neil Young, doped to the gills, singing

I went to Crosby and I went to Nash
I asked if they would like to buy some hash...
I went to Crosby and I went to Stills
I asked if they would help me buy some pills...

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at November 01, 2020 02:09 PM (zFG+C)

709 >>>Because, IMO, it's a lot more damaging to the psyche
to be confident of a yuge Trump win and then watch as the cheating, the
riots and the Soros machine steadily whittle down his lead and cruise
to a massive, fraudulent victory.

Vote like you're going to win. Expect you will lose.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 01, 2020 12:19 PM (2JVJo)

Hey bud can you maybe just take a break for a while? You clearly have some things to work out and I don't think pissing all over people's happiness here is going to help at all. You and a few other perpetually negative and depressing folks really need to take a break form this site I think.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 01, 2020 03:13 PM (aR6C/)

710 $12 for a Kindle ebook?

Eat shit and die.

Posted by: Egregious Johnson at November 01, 2020 03:31 PM (ynw0i)

711 560 OregonMuse, the photo of the dusty bookshop where the little old man is reading: where is that?

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (EbSTN)

Not sure. I thought it was a painting, actually.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 04:22 PM (yyr7Q)

712 711 560 OregonMuse, the photo of the dusty bookshop where the little old man is reading: where is that?

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 12:27 PM (EbSTN)

Not sure. I thought it was a painting, actually.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 04:22 PM (yyr7Q)

Thank you. It's really beautiful.

Posted by: m at November 01, 2020 04:34 PM (EbSTN)

713 Posted by: Egregious Johnson at November 01, 2020 12:16 PM (ynw0i)

Heh. Who peed in your cornflakes this morning?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at November 01, 2020 04:36 PM (yyr7Q)

714 VERY late to the party as usual...I managed to catch glimpses of this library while touring the Canadian Parliament and it hinted at the gorgeous image you see above.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 01, 2020 05:38 PM (3DJkT)

715 "You see that all the time in Portland. Some Antifa female feels threatened at a demonstration, and is furious that the cops won't protect her, despite the fact that she wants to abolish the cops, and has just spent hours chanting the vilest insults imaginable at the police riot line."

And the threat she heard was someone quietly and peaceably disagreeing with her.

"Last night around midnight, MSNBC had a guy saying that they needed to call on the spirits of the dead...."

But will they come when MSNBC does call them?

Posted by: Lawdawg at November 01, 2020 05:57 PM (6K2vl)

716 Easy. That's Joan Fontaine. Little sis of Olivia de Havilland.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 01, 2020 06:18 PM (lwxDz)

717 Finished "The Return of Santiago" by Mike Resnick. Good, but not as good as the original. The nicknames he used for characters in the original (The Sargasso Rose, Peacemaker MacDougal, Giles Sans Pitie) were fanciful and inventive, but the names of characters in the sequel are hokey and a bit too obvious in their references to cultural history (Waltzin' Matilda, Moby Dick, The One-Armed Bandit). And the storytelling kind of reflects that as well. I saw the final twist coming when I wasn't even halfway finished with the book, though I still enjoyed seeing it play out. It's an enjoyable little romp but not as good as the original, which is one of my favorite sci-fi stories. Still, it was a quick read, and good enough that I think I'll have to read more of Resnick's stuff, particularly since much of his works are set in this same universe.

Posted by: Caiwyn at November 01, 2020 10:38 PM (VFCQN)

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