Critical Social Justice and the Drama Triangle [KT]

One of Peter Boghossian's colleagues published a hit piece on him (and another colleague) in Chronicle of Higher Education in which she denounced in particular his criticism of Critical Race Theory, one of the mainstays of Critical Social Justice. This is not at all surprising. Things are heating up on the CRT front. More on Boghossian's response a little later.

I was intrigued by a comment back to him on Twitter by a guy named Steve Cowan, who may have discovered something interesting about these "Critical Theories". Presented with a few spaces and bolded words added:

My 2 cents is that CRT is a codification of the codependent triangle, where participants in adult interactions each assume 1 of 3 roles:

victim,
persecutor,
or rescuer,
and switch around as necessary.
It's a very dysfunctional way to live.

The "codependent triangle" is often associated with addiction, and is also called the "rescue triangle". But its original name is the Drama Triangle, from Transactional Analysis. Some "Games People Play" at the link.

In addiction, the Drama Triangle tends to protect the addict from reality and to maintain the addiction. Perhaps in Critical Theory, the Drama Triangle tends to protect and maintain victimhood. As the folks who call the Drama Triangle the "Rescue Triangle" are fond of saying, you can tell if you are a rescuer in a Triangle or in Reality by whether the victims stay rescued. People like Robin DiAngelo tell us up front that we can never hope to resolve racism through their programs of anti-racism.

From Peter Kirsanow at The Federalist, Critical Race Theory is a way of life for those who hold to its tenets. On the definition from the American Bar Association (CRT started in law schools):

Because it's "evolving" and "malleable," you can never say "these are the rules" or "we have a just social system." You can never rest, because this practice and evolution entail constantly searching for new aspects of injustice.

I thought it would be fun to try a little thought experiment with the 'Critical Social Justice = Drama Triangle' idea. Most of us have seen the video below. This time, try following where the former Vice Blogger is in the Rescuer-Victim-Persecutor roles as he goes through his "therapy":

Transactional Analysis generally refers to interpersonal relationships. But what about when these interactions go beyond the personal?

Shirtless in Seattle:

It's worse, because it:
1) Promotes this worldview and way of behaving as virtuous rather than trying to cure it as dysfunctional.
2) Demands that every person be assigned a role based on enforced intersectional group identities.
3) Persecutes those who won't submit to it.

Also from this thread:

The Hit Piece on Boghossian and his colleague

Peter Boghossian does not enter a Drama Triangle, by refusing to apologize and by re-asserting reality:

I was disappointed to read "When Academic Bullies Claim the Mantle of Free Speech" (The Chronicle Review, March 18 ) by Dr. Jennifer Ruth. . . Ruth, and others in the PSU faculty senate, administration, and the AAUP (which publishes the Journal of Academic Freedom, which Ruth used to edit), have characterized criticism of their scholarship, and criticism of Critical Race Theory in particular, as harassment. Moreover, they have erroneously equated ideological critique with limitations on their academic freedom.
By claiming that criticism of published ideas and pedagogical models is harassment, and by creating institutional mechanisms that erect barriers to wholly appropriate critique, entire lines of scholarship become exempt from scrutiny.

It is worth noting that criticism is framed as harassment only by academicians working in certain domains of thought that are in Critical Theory's orbit. Civil engineers are not claiming that criticism of truss bridge design is harassment. . . Claiming criticism is harassment occurs when a discipline's North Star is not Truth, but ideology.
The internal rationale for calling criticism "harassment" is as simple as it is absurd: because these Critical Theories are believed to proceed from one's "social position" as an occupant of some "identity category," the person and her ideas are treated as though they overlap. They do not.

(Emphasis mine.)

I am confident that the Party of Science can explain how Critical Theories are actually not theories, but people, so criticizing them is off-limits. The Party will have to do it, because the principals refuse to engage in debate.

There's a dual irony in Ruth's accusations. First, if there's an institutionalized rule that criticism of academic work is harassment, how would Critical Theory, which is entirely predicated on criticizing existing systems, have emerged? It would not have. The ability to criticize has enabled the existence of disciplines in which my colleagues work, and from which they have framed criticism as harassment. Second, Ruth is doing to Gilley and me exactly what she claims we are doing to our colleagues -- criticizing us. The only difference is, she takes aim at us, while we take aim at ideas.

Of course, logic is oppressive in the world of Critical Theory, so . . .

Boghossian's colleague, Bruce Gilley, wrote his own response. It is defiant. Points out mischaracterizations in the original complaint. This is not his first round against cancel culture:

In 2017, he wrote an article titled "The Case for Colonialism," which argued that Western colonialism was "both objectively beneficial and subjectively legitimate in most of the places where it was found." Soon after the article appeared on the website for Third World Quarterly, the journal where it had been accepted for publication, two petitions were launched demanding its retraction. One of these, which got more than 7,000 signatures, claimed that sentiments expressed in the article "reek of colonial disdain for Indigenous peoples and ignore ongoing colonialism in white settler nations." (The other petition, incidentally, got more than 11,000 signatures.) By the time the dust settled, Third World Quarterly's editor had received "serious and credible threats of personal violence," 15 members of the editorial board had resigned, and Gilley's article had been retracted.
For Gilley, however, things were just getting started. . .

Which brings me to the embattled professor's latest controversy. Gilley has spent five years researching the life of Sir Alan Cuthbert Maxwell Burns, a British colonial administrator who served as Governor of the Gold Coast (now Ghana) from 1941 to 1947. His research culminated in a book titled The Last Imperialist: Sir Alan Burns' Epic Defense of the British Empire, which was due to be published by Lexington Books (an imprint of Rowman & Littlefield). The book was to be the first in a new series on 'Problems of Anti-Colonialism.' However, on September 26th--just two weeks before the book was meant to ship--a petition was launched calling for its termination.

You can read about the other controversies at the link. Bruce Gilley looks kinda like an academic cowboy.

More on Critical Social Justice in Universities
Should you send you kid to college?

A long 2019 video featuring Peter Boghossian, James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose speaking at the Aspen Jewish Community Center concerning How "Idea Laundering" is Crippling American Universities.

In 2017 and 2018, as a part of a whistleblowing effort, James Lindsay, Peter Boghossian, and Helen Pluckrose wrote ideologically-driven, morally horrific papers and submitted them to leading peer-reviewed academic journals. Seven of these were published, and seven more were under review before their project was uncovered and subsequently revealed by the Wall Street Journal. The trio's intention was to expose a kind of academic corruption (idea laundering) that puts radical social and political agendas ahead of scholarship and a dispassionate search for truth.
Aspen attendees had the opportunity to hear from all three whistleblowers who discussed what, in their opinion, is going on behind the scenes in universities today, and how activist "scholarship" is making its way into many aspects of our increasingly fraught civic culture. They explained what they dubbed "grievance studies," described how certain university departments are indoctrinating college students into a perpetual "grievance" mindset, and illustrated how "applied postmodernism" seeks to "remake society."

A few notes: They discuss how these policies are intended to protect people from ideas. A long Q and A session. All three of these people are liberal atheists, but many in the religious right have reached out to them for help in protecting religious institutions from the "woke".

Remember that schools of education are rife with these ideologies.

More recently: Via J.J. Sefton, yesterday's Blacklisted American Professor. This time for having an opinion about payment of reparations.

A little good news: Black intellectuals have sent a letter to Smith College demanding an apology for workers smeared as racist.

Another professor refuses to resign.

University officials can be held personally liable for discrimination against a Christian group.

Simple Observations about Critical Race Theory

Last week, in the comments, an I for an I wrote:

The argument against CRT is simple: You can't beat racism with more racism. You will simply be replacing one form of racism with another.
This is an argument everyone can get behind. Many know the maxim, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. Just like trying to use racism to combat racism leads to everyone being racist.
The left is great at coming up with pithy bumper-sticker slogans that everyone can quickly grasp. It's time the right start learning to play the game. You don't lift someone up by putting others down. CRT is just a new version of racism, no need to get into the weeds.

Okay. I could go for some bumper stickers. Got any other ideas? While you're thinking, some memes:

San Francisco School Board

Music

Southern white woman doesn't stay in her own lane. h/t Maggie's Farm

Hope you have a good weekend.

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1 Howdy.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 27, 2021 11:16 AM (DTX3h)

2 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at March 27, 2021 11:17 AM (dbkIH)

3 Bonjour

Posted by: KT at March 27, 2021 11:22 AM (BVQ+1)

4 Nobody noods anymore. Harrumph.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 27, 2021 11:23 AM (OED7z)

5 Top 10

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 27, 2021 11:26 AM (vXPPP)

6 Used to...being an asshole, could get you an ass whippin'...the good ol' days.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 11:26 AM (AwYPR)

7 Sorry I'm late got have dashboard apart but can't get the cover off

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:27 AM (Cxk7w)

8 Sorry I'm late got have dashboard apart but can't get the cover off

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:27 AM (Cxk7w)

bigger hammer

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

9 Thought the YouTube video was still up but itsa Sundowner smack down, too funny it's on YouTube but doubt it will be for long

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:29 AM (Cxk7w)

10 Not bigger hammer, new bigger flat bar

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:30 AM (Cxk7w)

11 I had CRTs, now everything is LED.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at March 27, 2021 11:30 AM (WFMLs)

12 Shant has it down

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:31 AM (Cxk7w)

13 Good morning, Open Blogger, good morning, Horde,

The color driving all the hate between people of different skin tones is red -- communism.

The KGB gamed out that angle a long time ago.

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 27, 2021 11:31 AM (vXPPP)

14 The "cult of virtue" is about social retards and evil people engaging in largely quixotic efforts at ending social maladies that are statistical noise by obliterating existing order.

"Don't just do something, sit there" is life advice a lot of people need on some injustices.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:32 AM (Lzpvj)

15 Has any culture in history besides ours ever engaged in such an orgy of self-loathing?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 27, 2021 11:32 AM (fLVm1)

16 this is a complex topic worthy of serious discussion

OTOH it's Saturday and I have the LATimes crossword puzzle open in another tab

smell ya later

Posted by: DB- just DB at March 27, 2021 11:32 AM (iTXRQ)

17 I suspect for most, the construct of the Drama Triangle looks something like:

Victim = Me
Rescuer = You
Perpetrator = That person over there

Posted by: Muldoon at March 27, 2021 11:32 AM (m45I2)

18 Sorry I'm late got have dashboard apart but can't get the cover off

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:27 AM (Cxk7w)

bigger hammer
Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

Sawzall.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 11:33 AM (C7ZH3)

19 Yes, the "woke" are absolutely sociopaths. They enjoy bullying people, and hurting them, and running them around like little robots.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at March 27, 2021 11:34 AM (JZT2F)

20 This CRT horseshit is all Gaylord's fault.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2021 11:34 AM (y7DUB)

21 Sorry I'm late got have dashboard apart but can't get the cover off

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:27 AM (Cxk7w)

bigger hammer
Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

Sawzall.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 11:33 AM (C7ZH3)

-----------

Precisely positioned explosive charges.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 27, 2021 11:34 AM (fLVm1)

22 Anti-racism is the new racism

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:34 AM (Cxk7w)

23 Sawzall.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 11:33 AM (C7ZH3)

maybe the greatest invention since the wheel...

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 11:35 AM (AwYPR)

24 My angle grinder got left at work, have my sawzall

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:35 AM (Cxk7w)

25 I don't believe there is even one person whose life has been improved by the woke.
They even make themselves miserable.

Posted by: Northern lurker at March 27, 2021 11:36 AM (lgiXo)

26 15 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 27, 2021 11:32 AM (fLVm1)

Yup the Toltecs...

Read about them and Tula.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:36 AM (Lzpvj)

27 Lots of analysis.

TL;DR - some people are just fucktards. Deal with it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at March 27, 2021 11:36 AM (3H9h1)

28 CRTers are the new Calvinists. Since I'm racist in my DNA, and since there's nothing I can do about it, I guess I'll just embrace it. Might as well have fun while I can, if I'm doomed anyway.

Posted by: pep at March 27, 2021 11:36 AM (v16oJ)

29 17 Posted by: Muldoon at March 27, 2021 11:32 AM (m45I2)

I think it was Malkin who came up with "crybullying", at any rate it is a perfect description of their passive-aggressive game of ratfuck they are on the verge of making federal law.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:37 AM (Lzpvj)

30
at this point my response going forward it

-everybody is racist, shut up ! -

Posted by: will choose a nic later at March 27, 2021 11:39 AM (r4bSV)

31 There is no concept of grace in Critical Race Theory. You are stuck in Original Sin, and there is no redemption.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 27, 2021 11:40 AM (45fpk)

32 CRT adherent just shot a Texas State Trooper near Waco and on the run. Trooper in critical condition.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 11:41 AM (2DOZq)

33 I'm fortunate in that I do not have to interact much with others. What little I do is quite sufficient in keeping me minimally social. I am never unimpressed at how compliant this culture has become.

Posted by: Old Dude at March 27, 2021 11:41 AM (LGXGf)

34 Good morning, 'rons and 'ettes. Yeah, kinda happy that I never forced the "college" path on any of my kids.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at March 27, 2021 11:41 AM (Agr8U)

35 31 Posted by: grammie winger at March 27, 2021 11:40 AM (45fpk)

The only grace is being part of the devouring horde.

Grace as offered by the Xian faith is rare in systems.

Christ would be properly venerated as a philosopher even if one rejected His divinity because He short-circuited the vendetta cycle that was killing western civ.

God be praised.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:42 AM (Lzpvj)

36 We are ALL victims! *hic*

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at March 27, 2021 11:42 AM (W4eKo)

37 Even the more delicate MultiMax got left at a job

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:42 AM (Cxk7w)

38 Sorry I'm late got have dashboard apart but can't get the cover off

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:27 AM (Cxk7w)

bigger hammer
Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

Sawzall.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 11:33 AM (C7ZH3)

Jaws of life

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 11:43 AM (2DOZq)

39 32 Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 11:41 AM (2DOZq)

It'll be the lead story in the narrative arc of the media precisely "never."

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:43 AM (Lzpvj)

40 Skip: Been there, done that. Pulled heater/ac box out of a Doge Dakota. Was a real bitch kitty.

Duck Duck Go search is your buddy. Look for videos.
Persevere!

Posted by: boynsea at March 27, 2021 11:43 AM (sshap)

41 Asian American politician removes shirt to show wounds, prove patriotism

Asshole.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 11:44 AM (85Gof)

42 TL;DR.

Cliff's Notes for those of us who don't GAF?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (uh5kC)

43 Try searching (your model and year) dash removal.

Posted by: boynsea at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (sshap)

44 Most of us have seen the video below.

I had not until now. Thanks for posting that! Looking through the comments, I noticed this:

"Vice just asked Jake Paul if him KO'ing a black man in a boxing match was an act of racism. When reality is more absurd than satire."

The commenter wasn't kidding: https://youtu.be/0Rm78EZDJfM

These assholes need to be shot into the sun.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (DTX3h)

45 41 Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 11:44 AM (85Gof)

I'd be more impressed if it was a she.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (Lzpvj)

46 I wonder if people who live on twitter and facebook, and/or on the coasts, realize most of this stuff happens, not at all in the real world.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (9qhLe)

47 Cliff's Notes for those of us who don't GAF?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (uh5kC)

You're bad and you must die. Before you die, give me all your stuff.

Posted by: grammie winger at March 27, 2021 11:46 AM (45fpk)

48
One thing I learned in my youth that the last thing a person will give up is their victimhood

they will hold onto that idea like a drowning person will on anything

Posted by: will choose a nic later at March 27, 2021 11:46 AM (r4bSV)

49 Watched video, must be on old tablet hence the smack down on this one.
Have to watch again, one issue is wasn't exactly same thoughaF-150, I had 6 screws and video had 4

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:46 AM (Cxk7w)

50 Sorry I'm late got have dashboard apart but can't get the cover off

Posted by: Skip

Oxy acetylene. Can't stay on if it's liquid.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:46 AM (uh5kC)

51 Asian American politician removes shirt to show wounds, prove patriotism

The Amazon website tells us to #StopAsianHate! *hic*

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at March 27, 2021 11:47 AM (W4eKo)

52 TL;DR.

Cliff's Notes for those of us who don't GAF?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (uh5kC)

More naval gazing.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:47 AM (9qhLe)

53
shittythings happen to everybody, get over it

Mark Rippetoe

Posted by: will choose a nic later at March 27, 2021 11:47 AM (r4bSV)

54 I'd be more impressed if it was a she.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (Lzpvj)

good point

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (85Gof)

55 Al-Anon and Alcoholics Anonymous have been teaching people how to break free of the toxic mentality of victimization and selfishness for nearly a century now. Almost everything the wokester push and teach are things AA teaches how to avoid and break.

Basically they teach you that unless someone is deliberately, intentionally being hurtful and provocative, your feelings are entirely on you. That how you respond to things is under your control and you can break that and live your own life if you learn the tools to do so.

The woke left instead wants more of that, encourages victimization feelings, promotes codependency and misery, and wants everyone, everywhere to be in this grotesque, incredibly destructive mindset that drives people insane.

Instead of teaching people how to beat their fears and grow out of their weakness, the modern approach is to dive deeper in it, encourage the crazy, and attack anyone who is grown up and strong.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (KZzsI)

56 42 Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:45 AM (uh5kC)

What is the name of a tool that works in only one direction?

A screw.

That is what CRT is a societal screw.

Any sane system has an end state that would hopefully leave things better than one found it. CRT does not. Taken to its own logical conclusions at some future point whites will be hurt enough they will get the societal "I WIN!" button.

I contend that that will never be allowed to happen, nor is "justice" a goal at all but that is because I have a functioning brain and moral core.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (Lzpvj)

57 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (arJlL)

58 There is no concept of grace in Critical Race Theory. You are stuck in Original Sin, and there is no redemption.
Posted by: grammie winger

Exactly. I believe in redemption. CRT is another way they want to purge Christians from society.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (E0OEG)

59 Another great thread KT

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (Cxk7w)

60 Bonjour
Posted by: KT

WeeWee

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (arJlL)

61 "Vice just asked Jake Paul if him KO'ing a black man in a boxing match was an act of racism. When reality is more absurd than satire."

These assholes need to be shot ~~into the sun.~~
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik

Fixed.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:49 AM (uh5kC)

62 I'll stick with Dr King's view on race.

Posted by: Pete Bog at March 27, 2021 11:49 AM (Jzz++)

63 What is the name of a tool that works in only one direction?

Ace's drill?

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:49 AM (uh5kC)

64 Is there really a website called Pox?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 11:50 AM (OU+8W)

65 40 Skip: Been there, done that. Pulled heater/ac box out of a Doge Dakota. Was a real bitch kitty.

Duck Duck Go search is your buddy. Look for videos.
Persevere!
Posted by: boynsea at March 27, 2021 11:43 AM (sshap)

I bet they installed that dash, with the doors off and before the windshield was installed. We toured the corvette factory and that's how they were building the cabin. Also seen other factory lines where they do it this way. Good luck with it.

Posted by: BifBewalski - hate having to work in or under the dash at March 27, 2021 11:50 AM (VcFUs)

66 55 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (KZzsI)

Quite nicely done Mr Taylor.

At the end of the day carrying around a tally sheet of wrongs leads to an unhealthy emotional life at a MINIMUM and far worse things as a likelihood.

CRT is a codified permission cycle bordering on demand that you make your entire social, intellectual, and moral life a constant tally taking.

It is so toxic in a just world it would be classed a weapon of war.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:50 AM (Lzpvj)

67 Asian hate meme perpetrated by white supremacy is a planned scam The only racism against Asians is done by liberal college admissions people and persons of color home invaders.

That they cite Asian hate crimes up 1900% just in NYC says all you need to know.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 11:51 AM (2DOZq)

68 I suspect for most, the construct of the Drama Triangle looks something like:

Victim = Me
Rescuer = You
Perpetrator = That white person over there
Posted by: Muldoon at March 27, 2021 11:32 AM (m45I2)

Small modification.

Posted by: Justsayin' at March 27, 2021 11:51 AM (Fs5vw)

69 The tweet about bullying is very instructive. I was headed toward making this point earlier in the week. He said it way better (and shorter) than I could.

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 11:52 AM (uEbPt)

70 What is the name of a tool that works in only one direction?

Biden, but it only works to 11 AM most days

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 11:52 AM (85Gof)

71 Asian hate meme perpetrated by white supremacy is a planned scam The only racism against Asians is done by liberal college admissions people and persons of color home invaders.

BINGO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 11:52 AM (85Gof)

72 Its a pretty old thing but I know that we did not always make victims heroes. Even before 9-11 ambulance chaser lawyers had adopted the "you DESERVE payment" for having been an unfortunate victim of any kind of accident. But I really noticed starting with 9-11 that the media refers to victims as heroes. Drives me crazy, Yes we should remember, even honor, folks whose lives get cut short by terrorist thugs. But they aren't heroes just because they died in a dramatic terror attack.

And then with CRT, and homophobia, now also trans-phobia, the low thinking masses are pummeled with the message that if they are or they become a 'minority' they can claim "I'm being persecuted for being different" and bingo, automatic 'hero' status w/o having to lift a finger or resist any temptation. It is such an unhealthy way of thinking.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 27, 2021 11:53 AM (Aashi)

73 CRT is a codified permission cycle bordering on demand that you make your entire social, intellectual, and moral life a constant tally taking.

It is so toxic in a just world it would be classed a weapon of war.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:50 AM (Lzpvj)

You know what I noticed, moving away from a community where around 50% of the people were dark skinned, to one where about 90% are light skinned, is everyone is nicer to each other. Everyone. It's not just because it's a smaller community, it's like everyone can drop the bullshit.

I think this as much as anything else, is why cities are such toxic cesspools. People aren't allowed to just be kind to each other.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:53 AM (9qhLe)

74 Got shot one yesterday, Smash gets her first one Monday. Only a sore arm, less so than with a flu shot.

My penis is now girthier and uuuger though. Overnight.

Posted by: BifBewalski - Moderna update at March 27, 2021 11:54 AM (VcFUs)

75 Asian hate meme perpetrated by white supremacy is a planned scam The only racism against Asians is done by liberal college admissions people and persons of color home invaders.

That they cite Asian hate crimes up 1900% just in NYC says all you need to know.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 11:51 AM (2DOZq)

China says jump, politicians and corporate media ask how hi.

China said "jump."

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:55 AM (9qhLe)

76 73 Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:53 AM (9qhLe)

There is a lot of truth to it, in my own travels over these last decades I know my own social health is impacted heavily by population density.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:55 AM (Lzpvj)

77 You're racist for noticing color and you're racist for not noticing color.

If you admit you're a racist (as commanded), then you're a racist. And if you don't admit you're a racist, then you're a racist.

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 11:55 AM (uEbPt)

78 Al-Anon and its variants can be problematic as well, they often end up just a session of miserable people griping and then telling each other off, but the fact is that the tools learned there can be incredibly healthy.

Especially for people who grew up in an awful environment. Any well-adjusted mature person already knows all the super basic tools that they teach, but some people really need it and find it amazingly helpful.

Honestly I'm stunned that it hasn't been canceled for its "hateful" teachings of things like "grow up and take responsibility for your own feelings"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

79 Got shot one yesterday, Smash gets her first one Monday. Only a sore arm, less so than with a flu shot.

My penis is now girthier and uuuger though. Overnight.
Posted by: BifBewalski

Wait until it falls off in six weeks due to mRNA gene therapy.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:56 AM (uh5kC)

80 61 Fixed.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:49 AM (uh5kC)

Saw that coming. /Jayne

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 27, 2021 11:56 AM (DTX3h)

81 That Vice video I have never seen before, it was pretty damn funny. The country/comedy/opera thing was "interesting". I give her credit for originality, no doubt there. But how many people are you going to put in seats over the years as a country and opera singer with pretty weak comedy riffs?

I would tell her to go with country for many reasons. No offense, but she won't be opening in Milan anytime soon. But she obviously has something against Country Music. A lot of irony there as she sounded pretty damn good Again the originality is great, but what are you going to do tomorrow. And since the entire 7 minutes was about her, and her only, by the end, I was struggling to hang on.

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 11:56 AM (mP2It)

82 Point of getting dash apart is my radio went out a month ago. The theory is get the mother board out and bake it. Now my chances of putting it actually in the oven for baking and getting away with it is slim to none, but I have a new heat gun so we will getting that bridge when it comes.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:57 AM (Cxk7w)

83 78 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

I am an alcoholic child of alcoholics, I made up my mind the cycle would end with my handing the baton of sobriety and understanding of the cycle and its destructiveness to my son.

I am 21 and a half years sober and he is not a drunk.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:57 AM (Lzpvj)

84 There is a lot of truth to it, in my own travels over these last decades I know my own social health is impacted heavily by population density.
Posted by: sven

In the process of selling and moving to 100 acres in outside of a small town. It's amazing how after passing thru the last town with a stoplight, the stress melts away.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:58 AM (uh5kC)

85 And this 1900% thing is a statistical trick that's been perpetrated forever. You take anything you want to measure, something that's never been measured before. The baseline is zero, because you have no data. Then the first measurement point is something quite low. The second measurement point, if you've now increased the amount of measuring going on, is going to show a substantial increase.

So if you go for 1 case to 19, that's a 1900% jump.

At this point, whenever I see someone quoting a percentage change from one year to the next, or whatever interval is being measured, I just assume it's a damned lie. Because it is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (9qhLe)

86 That last video is hilarious. And it was from down here, with the O'Town Philharmonic. I'd really like to attend one of their shows after we get back to normal. If that ever happens, that is. If not, there's always EweTewb.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (HaL55)

87 I stopped taking Helen Pluckrose seriously when she characterized Trump as a greater threat to society than CRT. Same with another of Lindsay's contributors over at New Discourses. No idea about Boghossian, but Lindsay at least seems to still get it.

Sadly he started putting up more subscription only audio content over there, which was a big turn off.

Posted by: McLurkerson at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (wNDOJ)

88 I disagree there is no way out of the original sins in CRT.

The way out of original sin is quite clearly to become an accuser. Being on the accuser side - the mob - is the armor against the evils "everybody" is guilty of.

As long as you stay on the correct side of the mob, your entrance into CRT Heaven is a rock solid 100% guarantee. But there's the rub.

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (uEbPt)

89
Honestly I'm stunned that it hasn't been canceled for its "hateful" teachings of things like "grow up and take responsibility for your own feelings"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

You're almost right. It's taking responsibility for one's actions. Feeling have nothing to do with it.

Posted by: Justsayin' at March 27, 2021 12:00 PM (Fs5vw)

90 88 Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (uEbPt)

Why do you think CRT has an Islam fetish?

It is a Jihader's faith.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 12:00 PM (Lzpvj)

91 So, is a NASCAR driver crossing the finish line first, a racist, or ?

/nooseoutfrontshouldatoldme

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 27, 2021 12:00 PM (QzJWU)

92 I think this as much as anything else, is why cities are such toxic cesspools.

It's my observation that in a smaller community you are likely to see the same people more often. This promotes civility and friendliness

Posted by: Pete Bog at March 27, 2021 12:01 PM (Jzz++)

93 Usually this kind of crazy is generational; not that one generation picks it up, but that it becomes popular, then fades away as a new cultural movement arises.

The problem today is manifold.
1) Cultural movements are no longer organic, but are being artificially created and spread
2) People in power find the crazy too useful for controlling and manipulating the masses
3) There's tons of money to be made in it, and nobody will give that up.

I read a weird article from Japan about why the pixelate everything in an oversexualized culture in which pretty much anything goes -- except showing naughty bits. They didn't used to do it, until the 90s or so.

The real reason it keeps going is not some prudish Japanese will to cover up the danglies but because there's HUGE money in the pixalization industry. There's no cultural push to retain any of it, just there's so much money to be made that all the momentum is against changing.

And that's the biggest evil right now about all this crazy: its lucrative and gives people power and they won't give that up without a brutal fight.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:01 PM (KZzsI)

94 CRT is not about ideas or even "racism." It's about being able to completely control people you hate.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:01 PM (OU+8W)

95 At this point, whenever I see someone quoting a percentage change from one year to the next, or whatever interval is being measured, I just assume it's a damned lie. Because it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (9qhLe)

Or just do like I do and don't trust any statistic given in an argument. Statisitics are only true less than 0.1% of the time.

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 12:02 PM (uEbPt)

96 Wait until it falls off in six weeks due to mRNA gene therapy.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 11:56 AM (uh5kC)

Maybe that's what this is all about. Bill Gates and Tony Faulci gathering penii to make up for their own... shortcomings.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:02 PM (9qhLe)

97 You're almost right. It's taking responsibility for one's actions. Feeling have nothing to do with it.

But the problem today isn't so much the actions as the fact that the actions are being controlled by feelings. If you strip away that fee-fee fixation and mature enough that you aren't controlled by feelings but instead reason, then the actions change.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:02 PM (KZzsI)

98 this point, whenever I see someone quoting a percentage change from one year to the next, or whatever interval is being measured, I just assume it's a damned lie. Because it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (9qhLe)

It wasn't the percentage number so much as it was pointing out NYC. A known white supremacy hotbed. /s

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 12:03 PM (2DOZq)

99 sven, that's awesome, man.

Thanks to Bill W, there are some great people I know who are alive today.

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 27, 2021 12:04 PM (vXPPP)

100 I think this as much as anything else, is why cities are such toxic cesspools.
-------------

It's my observation that in a smaller community you are likely to see the same people more often. This promotes civility and friendliness
Posted by: Pete Bog at March 27, 2021 12:01 PM (Jzz++)

That's incredibly important... people feeling connected to one another. Humans are social animals, funny how not being surrounded by strangers helps.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:04 PM (9qhLe)

101 There was early in week a Asian rally against White racism down county. Totally Leftist induced bull crap that was from that Atlanta mass murder.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:04 PM (Cxk7w)

102 99 Posted by: callsign claymore at March 27, 2021 12:04 PM (vXPPP)

Thank you, this place helped me a lot when the wife was deployed. I work hard not to be an evangelical teetotaler, and I try to support people who decide they need to stop or cut back. In the end we are what we do.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 12:05 PM (Lzpvj)

103 Essentially today the modern left is all about being stuck as a toddler, driven almost entirely by Id, and refusing to grow up to take responsibility or control yourself by truth and reason rather than emotion and desire.

Its a shove down to the lowest maturity denominator so that people who live this way feel no pressure to grow, and no shame for how they live.

And they've turned it into a religion of sorts, driven by the most crazed and extremist zealots. Its like the medieval Roman Catholic Church run by the most sadistic and cruel inquisitors.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:06 PM (KZzsI)

104 At this point, whenever I see someone quoting a percentage change from one year to the next, or whatever interval is being measured, I just assume it's a damned lie. Because it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (9qhLe)

Or just do like I do and don't trust any statistic given in an argument. Statisitics are only true less than 0.1% of the time.
Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 12:02 PM (uEbPt)

My distrust in stats has increased 1900% in the past year.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:06 PM (9qhLe)

105 I read a weird article from Japan about why the pixelate everything in an oversexualized culture in which pretty much anything goes -- except showing naughty bits. They didn't used to do it, until the 90s or so.

The real reason it keeps going is not some prudish Japanese will to cover up the danglies but because there's HUGE money in the pixalization industry. There's no cultural push to retain any of it, just there's so much money to be made that all the momentum is against changing.

And that's the biggest evil right now about all this crazy: its lucrative and gives people power and they won't give that up without a brutal fight.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:01 PM (KZzsI)

I think the real reason they pixelate is that the Japanese naughty bits aren't as big as their Western counterparts so they pixelate everything rather than spell it out for all to see.

That and racism---you almost never see Japanese actresses in Western porn.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2021 12:06 PM (HrMC1)

106 Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 11:59 AM (9qhLe)

It wasn't the percentage number so much as it was pointing out NYC. A known white supremacy hotbed. /s
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 12:03 PM (2DOZq)

I mentioned this the other day, and I assume it's close to being true, if not 1900% accurate: I'm thinking the reason why NYC is because someone in NYC put together an Anti-Asian Hate Task Force. So now that the AAHTF is in effect, they can do what these types of things always do best: Generate statistics.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (9qhLe)

107 Plus there's a real push on to not declare any base urge wrong. Its wrong to do certain things, but that makes x person feel bad and the left has decided that making certain people feel bad is almost the worst sin.

You're not an oppressed minority if you like to molest children like Biden. You're a scumbag who is doing wrong. You're not being abused by anyone if you are stopped from doing evil, you are not supposed to do evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (KZzsI)

108 Got shot one yesterday

Excellent! We can now see what you had for breakfast!

Posted by: Bill Grates and Dr. Foochi at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (W4eKo)

109 105 Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2021 12:06 PM (HrMC1)

The dirty little secret is Asians may want to be careful on picking up the RACISS! crack-pipe...

they have a pretty big stash of it themselves.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (Lzpvj)

110 That and racism---you almost never see Japanese actresses in Western porn.
Posted by: JoeF.

Always skip any porn titled "Thai Ladyboy".

Don't ask.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (uh5kC)

111 I am 21 and a half years sober and he is not a drunk.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:57 AM (Lzpvj)

Good job sven and keep at it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (R/m4+)

112 WOW, so much great and rich content here KT ... thanks. --

The "black people can't be racist" mantra (one of many such absurdities) ... is a basic tenet of the fake (SJW) religion. They built this CRT weapon on Orwellian 2+2=5 type "Truths", repeated ceremoniously by the "faithful". From a set of false premises, any "non-believer" is made an infidel, worthy of punishment or even death, if they don't convert. --
A convenient thing about being the savior from the evil, is it mostly involves tearing things down, not building up. Traditional and functional America is still under attack via CRT (partitioning off white Christian patriots as oppressors, not unifying US) ... Trump was building unity, DeepState had to be rid of him (and U.S.).

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2021 12:10 PM (Cus5s)

113 Why do you think CRT has an Islam fetish?

It is a Jihader's faith.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 12:00 PM (Lzpvj)

They are both built on the same language. The language of victimization, torture, fear, and capricious domination.

I've read up on Islam to see how certain big "questions" are answered. It fascinates me and helps orient my own faith.

The answer to the deepest questions in Christianity is often "because God loves you". OTOH, the answer to the deepest questions in Islam (from the scholars and most devout) is "because Allah says so. Do you dare defy him?"

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 12:10 PM (uEbPt)

114 Plus there's a real push on to not declare any base urge wrong. Its wrong to do certain things, but that makes x person feel bad and the left has decided that making certain people feel bad is almost the worst sin.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

So murder is no longer wrong? Sweet.
Whacking 'em cheap and stacking 'em deep.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 12:10 PM (uh5kC)

115 @97 Difference between a brain-dead leftist and a thinking, reasonable person.

The second one says, "I think that..."

The first one says "I feel that..."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:11 PM (OU+8W)

116 The dirty little secret is Asians may want to be careful on picking up the RACISS! crack-pipe...

they have a pretty big stash of it themselves.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (Lzpvj)

It's like China is just trolling us 1900% of the time now.

Hey Joe, start talking about how much you hate us. Hahaha, watch him do it. Someone call CNN. Oh, nevermind, CNN is right here already, sucking our tiny penises.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:11 PM (9qhLe)

117
Yes, the "woke" are absolutely sociopaths. They enjoy bullying people,
and hurting them, and running them around like little robots.

Yep. I hear that saying, "The way to win is to not play the game." I absolutely refuse to engage in any way with this extremely toxic "game." No one in their right mind thinks this artificially-generated psychosis is worth discussing at all, much less wading into.
I want some Socialist Justice Wanker to accuse me of being a racist merely because of my skin color. My response will be, "You say I'm a racist? Prove it. Show me what I've done and be specific. Since you cannot, your idea has no basis in reality and isn't worth wasting time on."
Also, "Bless your heart."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at March 27, 2021 12:12 PM (HaL55)

118 I am an alcoholic child of alcoholics, I made up my mind the cycle would end with my handing the baton of sobriety and understanding of the cycle and its destructiveness to my son.

Its brutally hard, I know from my family's experience. Its one of those things you fight against nearly every day because alcoholism isn't just the booze its the entire mindset around it. My brother put it this way: alcohol lets you never grow up. You can stay at whatever age you want and have an excuse for it.

Breaking that is not just crucial, its the loving thing to do for your family and the community around you. I'm glad you've been successful and that your son has not suffered from this.

But the culture we live in now doesn't just allow it, it encourages that mindset and destruction.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:12 PM (KZzsI)

119 The news media, local and national, dutifully play along by never being very clear and precise in their reporting about racial and bias crimes.

For instance, someone CLAIMS a bias crime and it's NEVER questioned. It's always assumed to be true and it's left implied that the perpetrator MUST be white. It's never a member of another racial group--or the SAME racial group.

And this happens in many places where whites are not the majority and where a white person bent on mischief and mayhem would be would certainly be noticed.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2021 12:12 PM (HrMC1)

120 They are both built on the same language.

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2021 12:10 PM (uEbPt)

Hi there.

Posted by: Communism at March 27, 2021 12:13 PM (9qhLe)

121 I just read the link in the sidebar about a long text message sent by Hunter Biden. If that's true he's a suicide waiting to happen .
It might be an opportunity for Joe to step aside.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at March 27, 2021 12:15 PM (lgiXo)

122 But the problem today isn't so much the actions as the fact that the actions are being controlled by feelings. If you strip away that fee-fee fixation and mature enough that you aren't controlled by feelings but instead reason, then the actions change.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:02 PM (KZzsI

So you're thinking, Is it worth the hassle of law enforcement, a trial, and incarceration to kill this person.

My thinking is, If I kill this person, I'll be willing to take responsibility for that action. If I don't kill this person and they do great harm to me or others, I'll take take responsibility for not protecting myself or them.

Posted by: Justsayin' at March 27, 2021 12:16 PM (Fs5vw)

123 he dirty little secret is Asians may want to be careful on picking up the RACISS! crack-pipe...

they have a pretty big stash of it themselves.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (Lzpvj)

This is well known by everyone and it's proof that this is a SCAM

Also, I never understood how Trump calling 'rona the "China Flu" is a reflection on the Asian family down the street.
He's CLEARLY referring to the COMMUNIST government of China.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2021 12:16 PM (HrMC1)

124 So you're thinking, Is it worth the hassle of law enforcement, a trial, and incarceration to kill this person.

?

This is about worldviews, its about why people do the things they do and how that changes culture. Change that ad you change the behavior that results from it. It has nothing to do with hassle or trouble for me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:18 PM (KZzsI)

125 Basically they teach you that unless someone is deliberately, intentionally being hurtful and provocative, your feelings are entirely on you. That how you respond to things is under your control and you can break that and live your own life if you learn the tools to do so.

The woke left instead wants more of that, encourages victimization feelings, promotes codependency and misery, and wants everyone, everywhere to be in this grotesque, incredibly destructive mindset that drives people insane.

Instead of teaching people how to beat their fears and grow out of their weakness, the modern approach is to dive deeper in it, encourage the crazy, and attack anyone who is grown up and strong.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 11:48 AM (KZzsI)

Christopher, this is 1000% correct. We've come a long way from the Big Book, to Prozac Nation, to White Fragility. It's an incredibly societal-destructive arc.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 27, 2021 12:18 PM (mdjgu)

126 I just read the link in the sidebar about a long text message sent by Hunter Biden. If that's true he's a suicide waiting to happen .
It might be an opportunity for Joe to step aside.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at March 27, 2021 12:15 PM (lgiXo)

C'mon man! If he kills himself, it makes him a VICTIM of the evil RIGHT--and that HELPS Joe

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2021 12:18 PM (HrMC1)

127 I have long thought alcoholism has a lot to do with genetics.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:18 PM (Cxk7w)

128 I just read the link in the sidebar about a long text message sent by Hunter Biden. If that's true he's a suicide waiting to happen .
It might be an opportunity for Joe to step aside.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at March 27, 2021 12:15 PM (lgiXo)

Totally unrelated, now that The Snyder Cut is out there, everyone mentions how he walked away in the first place, due to a family tragedy, but nobody says what it was.

I'm thinking someone suicided or otherwise died under unusual circumstances, because nobody quits a job because their uncle died of old age.

And no, I never bothered to look up what it was, I just think it's funny how nobody wants to say it, whatever it is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:19 PM (9qhLe)

129 108 Got shot one yesterday
Excellent! We can now see what you had for breakfast!
Posted by: Bill Grates and Dr. Foochi at March 27, 2021 12:08 PM (W4eKo)

We've replaced ine of Bif's eyes with Deathlock technology from the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Let's see if he notices.

*turns on video stream from Bif's new eye*

Why is he watching so much Pr0nHub? I didn't know they had a channel for midget unicorn furries.

Just Whom. The. Actual. Fook. Is the Ace of Spades Moron group?

Posted by: BifBewalski - what the hell! at March 27, 2021 12:19 PM (VcFUs)

130 So, Alcoholics Anonymous is racist...

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at March 27, 2021 12:20 PM (UUBmN)

131 Watched another video, think I could get it apart then what? So might go put it back together and make lunch.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:20 PM (Cxk7w)

132 Don't blame you. Don't blame me. Blame that whitey behind the tree.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 27, 2021 12:20 PM (63Dwl)

133 @128 His daughter committed suicide. It was all over the news when it happened.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:20 PM (OU+8W)

134 I was just trying to cut back and i accidently quit drinking except on election days and repairing war wounds. This is almost true.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 12:21 PM (VWgBS)

135 Watched another video, think I could get it apart then what? So might go put it back together and make lunch.
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:20 PM (Cxk7w)

Can of gas and match
Lie to insurance company
Profit

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 12:21 PM (C7ZH3)

136 So, Alcoholics Anonymous is racist

I am kind of shocked that has not been a big push yet. The only thing I can figure is that its beneath their radar, for now at least.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:21 PM (KZzsI)

137
We've replaced ine of Bif's eyes with Deathlock technology from the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Let's see if he notices.

*turns on video stream from Bif's new eye*

When do I get the Six Million Dollar Man eyeball?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 27, 2021 12:22 PM (63Dwl)

138 This is a great thread. Thanks for the perspective reminder.

Posted by: mot at March 27, 2021 12:22 PM (jad3h)

139 Also, I never understood how Trump calling 'rona the "China Flu" is a reflection on the Asian family down the street.
He's CLEARLY referring to the COMMUNIST government of China.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2021 12:16 PM (HrMC1)

I'm wondering how much of this is not just stupid idiotic "don't make fun of the Chinese" stuff, and how much is because there were American scientists, including those working for the government, who were in Wuhan, having a hand in creating this thing.

So even if the oopsie was a careless Chinese lab assistant, it wasn't "really" a Chinese virus.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:23 PM (9qhLe)

140 New York City is ending qualified immunity for cops, and anyone that hired or appointed the cop.
council.nyc.gov/press/2021/03/25/2079/
That will be interesting to watch play out.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at March 27, 2021 12:23 PM (buTO7)

141 135 Watched another video, think I could get it apart then what? So might go put it back together and make lunch.
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:20 PM (Cxk7w)

Wanna rent my midget unicorn furry for the *phrasing* tight places?

Posted by: BifBewalski - $20, same as downtown at March 27, 2021 12:23 PM (VcFUs)

142 Got asked for the first time in six months to wear a mask today. Went to TJ maxx and the greeter lady said we have to put on a mask. Then she said they can't "make" you wear a mask and we went in. Was just there last week, same lady same store and they didn't say a word when we walked in without masks.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at March 27, 2021 12:24 PM (JUOKG)

143 I never understood how Trump calling 'rona the "China Flu" is a reflection on the Asian family down the street.

Yeah it makes zero sense upon the slightest examination but... it suddenly becomes all clear when you realize that China is demanding nobody say anything ill about them. That's the source of this: China must not be criticized, it is the Middle Kingdom, above all others. Especially not by worthless Gwailo pigs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

144 133 @128 His daughter committed suicide. It was all over the news when it happened.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:20 PM (OU+8W)

Well there you go. It's still funny no one can say it now.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:24 PM (9qhLe)

145 Our next leader will have to deal with the fbi, other arms of gov, 2 sets of aliens.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 12:25 PM (VWgBS)

146 The troubling thing to me is that all of this feels like a super complex, long term psyop by an intelligence operation. OUR intelligence operation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:26 PM (KZzsI)

147 wait, black people can not be alcoholics

that is not in the rules

Posted by: will choose a nic later at March 27, 2021 12:26 PM (r4bSV)

148 Skip. It'll come apart easily with about 1/4 lb. of Tannerite and a suitable rifle round to initiate the chemical process therein.

The trick'll be in properly placing that Tannerite, so that disassemble as desired, and also in obtaining a suitable shooting site, with a line of fire to reach said Tannerite. And I'd give it a good 100 yards, by the way. Shrapnel is a thing inside of oh, 50, 60 yards or so.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at March 27, 2021 12:26 PM (QzJWU)

149 130, 136 Guys, it's hidden in plain sight:

Bill W, founder of AA

Bill W(hite)

Bill becomes a law, part of the rule of law

Rule White = White Rule!

Ergo, AA is racist!

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 27, 2021 12:26 PM (vXPPP)

150 Just saw the trailer for Dune. The special effects seem awesome but I have a feeling they will deviate to make the movie Woke.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 12:27 PM (2DOZq)

151 wait, black people can not be alcoholics

that is not in the rules
Posted by: will choose a nic later at March 27, 2021 12:26 PM (r4bSV

Black people can't be gay either.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 27, 2021 12:27 PM (HrMC1)

152 The troubling thing to me is that all of this feels like a super complex, long term psyop by an intelligence operation. OUR intelligence operation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:26 PM (KZzsI)

The trick is to realize this is not their first rodeo, then when you go back and look at the recent past (few decades), a lot more things start to make sense.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:28 PM (9qhLe)

153 The troubling thing to me is that all of this feels like a super complex, long term psyop by an intelligence operation. OUR intelligence operation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I agree. And their writers of fake narratives are terrible. Lazy writing.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 12:28 PM (VWgBS)

154 I'm wondering how much of this is not just stupid idiotic "don't make
fun of the Chinese" stuff, and how much is because there were American
scientists, including those working for the government, who were in
Wuhan, having a hand in creating this thing.

My paranoid view is that the Democrats, desperate to cripple Trump, went to the Chinese and said "How can you help us?" And the Chinese said they had a virus slightly more deadly than the flu, and the US news media could do the rest.

They also made sure all the top Dems had the antidote.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:29 PM (OU+8W)

155 I left a deer roast on the smoker far longer than I should have yesterday. It wasn't ready for dinner and then I flat out forgot about it. When I remembered the smoker had burned out all its pellets.
But it's actually really good. All that smoke seems to have killed any gaminess. It's not even particularly dry.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at March 27, 2021 12:30 PM (lgiXo)

156 "The argument against CRT is simple: You can't beat racism with more racism."

That's the intellectual argument. The practical argument is more along the lines of "stop being assholes or we're going to vote you all off the island"

"150 Just saw the trailer for Dune. The special effects seem awesome but I have a feeling they will deviate to make the movie Woke.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 12:27 PM (2DOZq)"

They already did.

Posted by: somedood at March 27, 2021 12:30 PM (3oiFl)

157 Everytime i say lazy writing, i hear an echo. Is that just my own delusions of grand testicles?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 12:30 PM (VWgBS)

158 @104:

It's blatantly a religion, a particularly stupid and dangerous one. Salvation, the devil, the gods, all of it. I always had mixed feelings about deprogramming but it appears it was necessary and worked in many cases.

Critical Race Theorists are today's Moonies but the delusion is so widespread it is hard to see deprogramming as an endgame. It naturally happened with Marxism in the Soviet Union due to events. We should be so lucky because we are the Devil in this madness.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 27, 2021 12:30 PM (puu6v)

159
103 Essentially today the modern left is all about being stuck as a toddler, driven almost entirely by Id, and refusing to grow up to take responsibility or control yourself by truth and reason rather than emotion and desire.

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CRT is just one more way that people who refuse to acknowledge their personal agency justify their serial failures.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 27, 2021 12:31 PM (fLVm1)

160
"You can never rest, because this practice and evolution entail constantly searching for ~~new aspects of injustice~~ billable hours ."

What the ABA was really saying.

Posted by: Jean at March 27, 2021 12:31 PM (Xih1H)

161 They already did.
Posted by: somedood at March 27, 2021 12:30 PM (3oiFl)

You saw the movie?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 27, 2021 12:31 PM (2DOZq)

162 I've been seeing memes about saying no to hating Asians. Hating on Asians has never crossed my mind until I saw those memes.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at March 27, 2021 12:32 PM (lgiXo)

163 136 So, Alcoholics Anonymous is racist

I am kind of shocked that has not been a big push yet. The only thing I can figure is that its beneath their radar, for now at least.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:21 PM (KZzsI)

AA has been a target for the culture changers for years. One attempt was to get the word "God" taken out of the AA Big Book. Another attempt was to make all pronouns neutral. There was an attempt to get rid of the 12 Step process completely and just make AA a social/support group.

Posted by: Justsayin' at March 27, 2021 12:32 PM (Fs5vw)

164 CRT is just one more way that people who refuse to acknowledge their personal agency justify their serial failures.

Exactly. Its reducing society to the most worthless, corrupted, childish, and crazy by trying to normalize it and denormalize regular people. Its an attempt to reduce us all to squalling infants after our sugary num nums and distractions.

Because that's easy to control and use.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:32 PM (KZzsI)

165 Everytime i say lazy writing, i hear an echo. Is that just my own delusions of grand testicles?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 12:30 PM (VWgBS)

Are you related to saf?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 12:33 PM (C7ZH3)

166 Lunchtime

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:33 PM (Cxk7w)

167 My paranoid view is that the Democrats, desperate to cripple Trump, went to the Chinese and said "How can you help us?" And the Chinese said they had a virus slightly more deadly than the flu, and the US news media could do the rest.

They also made sure all the top Dems had the antidote.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:29 PM (OU+8W)

I think that's certainly possible. China might have just initiated it on their own, since they had their own reasons for getting rid of Trump. But the Dems are so fully owned by China, the cooperation between them on this was possibly quite high.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:33 PM (9qhLe)

168
The troubling thing to me is that all of this feels like a super
complex, long term psyop by an intelligence operation. OUR intelligence
operation.
It's spread by social media (which IIRC had some gubmint agency involved in its creation) through smartphones.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at March 27, 2021 12:33 PM (HaL55)

169 Well, time to wander inside and make up some stuff for the Gun Thread. See ya!

Posted by: Weasel at March 27, 2021 12:34 PM (MVjcR)

170 Was watching video last night of Duckworth, Hirono, and the new SecDef going on about how white supremacist groups are recruiting members of the military. Notice how they never name a group or the recruitment tactics? If there are hundreds of WS groups out there I would think they could at least point to one.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2021 12:34 PM (kTF2Z)

171 I've been seeing memes about saying no to hating Asians. Hating on Asians has never crossed my mind until I saw those memes.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at March 27, 2021 12:32 PM (lgiXo)

Same here. I don't hate anybody... until poopular culture and the left tell me not to.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:34 PM (9qhLe)

172 Duncan Idaho: Ghola Tranny

Posted by: Bill Grates and Dr. Foochi at March 27, 2021 12:34 PM (W4eKo)

173 162 I've been seeing memes about saying no to hating Asians. Hating on Asians has never crossed my mind until I saw those memes.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at March 27, 2021 12:32 PM (lgiXo)

---------

Same here. I hadn't given serious thought to hating Asians until now, but I have to admit that on reflection, I've come to appreciate some of the merits of the idea.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at March 27, 2021 12:35 PM (fLVm1)

174 So i guess this all means that even Nazis had the technology but not good writing for creating cartoons.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 12:35 PM (VWgBS)

175
sure is some asian on asian violence in myanmar right now

Posted by: will choose a nic later at March 27, 2021 12:35 PM (r4bSV)

176 I'm with BackwardsBoy, I refuse to participate.

Hope Bgal is doing better!

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 12:35 PM (E0OEG)

177 meant gooder

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 12:36 PM (VWgBS)

178 Got asked for the first time in six months to wear a mask today. Went to TJ maxx and the greeter lady said we have to put on a mask. Then she said they can't "make" you wear a mask and we went in. Was just there last week, same lady same store and they didn't say a word when we walked in without masks.
Posted by: Mister Scott

I'm loving Bonham. No face diapers.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 27, 2021 12:36 PM (uh5kC)

179 In the process of selling and moving to 100 acres in outside of a small town. It's amazing how after passing thru the last town with a stoplight, the stress melts away.
Posted by: rickb223

Nice !

Best of luck !

(if there's an old maid in town, slap her on the ass and tell her JT says hiya !)

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2021 12:37 PM (arJlL)

180 Hope Bgal is doing better!

Thanks, Infidel. Going to see her here in a little bit.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at March 27, 2021 12:37 PM (HaL55)

181 For some slightly lighter fare and amusement this morning, a couple of Ron Swanson related memes:

https://tinyurl.com/RSwanson1

https://tinyurl.com/RSwanson2

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at March 27, 2021 12:38 PM (ZSK0i)

182 167 My paranoid view is that the Democrats, desperate to cripple Trump, went to the Chinese and said "How can you help us?" And the Chinese said they had a virus slightly more deadly than the flu, and the US news media could do the rest.

They also made sure all the top Dems had the antidote.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:29 PM (OU+8W)

I think that's certainly possible. China might have just initiated it on their own, since they had their own reasons for getting rid of Trump. But the Dems are so fully owned by China, the cooperation between them on this was possibly quite high.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:33 PM (9qhLe)

This has been my thinking from the beginning. And as it turned out, very easy to do.

Posted by: Justsayin' at March 27, 2021 12:38 PM (Fs5vw)

183 "They also made sure all the top Dems had the antidote.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:29 PM (OU+8W)"

It gets zero MSM play, but there is a huge WTF rolling through medical science about some blood samples from Wuhan in December; they show that some victims there had recently received some manner of vaccination.

There is a lot of info related to the history of the outbreak that is available but not known by most of the public. Among those points, in 2019:
- American servicemen returning from China in October brought back an outbreak near DC that fizzled
- Outbreak was already underway in Vancouver, BC, in October
- China already had a good sized outbreak by that point and were closing military offices and installations and cancelling exercises

Then there is the whole rabbit hole of what commercially available data indicates what went on in China - again, the public in the west is mostly unaware of any of it. It's not good and includes a vastly higher death toll supplemented by widespread purges.

Posted by: somedood at March 27, 2021 12:39 PM (3oiFl)

184 I am 21 and a half years sober and he is not a drunk.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2021 11:57 AM (Lzpvj)

Nice !

Bill W and I are nodding acquaintances.

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2021 12:39 PM (arJlL)

185 Racism against asians is kind of the last bastion of casual, commonly spread racism in our culture (other than against whites, but that's a different beast). It comes up here fairly often, racial slurs, jokes about how they all have small private parts, etc.

And nobody reacts. If you used the n-word instead of an asian slur, people would jump all over you. You call a Chinese guy a "ch--k" and people shrug if they even notice.

The racism is real, and its the old fashioned "everyone laughs at the same jokes and is comfortable with the slurs" kind that has otherwise been removed from society.

But that's not what asians face now. They're being physically attacked and killed just for being asian by black people. And that's the problem that everyone recognizes, but didn't want to talk about until they decided to somehow blame it on white people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:39 PM (KZzsI)

186 How fitting
TCM -The FBI Story, Jimmy Stewart hunts for white supremacists and takes down a President with fake accusations

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:40 PM (Cxk7w)

187
I have long thought alcoholism has a lot to do with genetics.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:18 PM

To me, in a way, it is. It's like allergies - some people have them, some people don't. People with alcohol issues are not allergic to too much alcohol. Other people kneel before the porcelain god and say, "Never again."

Posted by: Bill from Attainder at March 27, 2021 12:40 PM (N/gDA)

188 CRT seems little different as Germany in the 1930's. Fascists always invent some reason or another to explain their tyranny.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2021 12:41 PM (r+sAi)

189 There is no concept of grace in Critical Race Theory. You are stuck in Original Sin, and there is no redemption. Posted by: grammie winger

Exactly. I believe in redemption. CRT is another way they want to purge Christians from society.
Posted by: Infidel
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Buy enough indulgences. Anything can be excused if you buy enough indulgences. /s

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2021 12:41 PM (MIKMs)

190 I have long thought alcoholism has a lot to do with genetics.

There is some evidence that at least some alcoholics break down liquor differently than other people releasing a compound similar to heroin.

But at least some are that way out of destructive personal patterns, etc. And you can fight it, either way. I have an extreme yen for beautiful women but have managed to stay celibate for decades out of grudging choice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

191 Once you understand that EVERYTHING on the intenet is a fund drive for someone you will approach ultimate enlightenment.

Posted by: America at March 27, 2021 12:43 PM (FISVQ)

192 Was watching video last night of Duckworth, Hirono, and the new SecDef
going on about how white supremacist groups are recruiting members of
the military. Notice how they never name a group or the recruitment
tactics? If there are hundreds of WS groups out there I would think
they could at least point to one.
One could probably send these people into a frothing fit if you were to axe them just a few questions, like where all these groups are. Which states or cities have the highest numbers of WS organizations? How many members are there?
You know, questions with some of those "number" thingys in the answer. The types of questions that have answers, like we had in The Before Times when relatively sane people ran things.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at March 27, 2021 12:44 PM (HaL55)

193 Buy enough indulgences. Anything can be excused if you buy enough indulgences. /s
Posted by: mustbequantum

lol. Was baptized catholic. Last time I was in church was when I took grandma to Christmas Eve mass in 1998 before she passed.

Her daughter, my aunt, is a devout catholic along with her jack mormon husband.

She was shocked last year when I told her I read the Bible but didn't go to church.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 12:45 PM (E0OEG)

194 189 Buy enough indulgences. Anything can be excused if you buy enough indulgences. /s
Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2021 12:41 PM (MIKMs)

Dude here gets it: today's leftism is essentially a revival of medieval Catholicism, the bad old days version with all its corruption and bad things publicly happening to anyone who doesn't mindlessly obey the church/state union. And it's the same people, then as now.

Posted by: CppThis at March 27, 2021 12:45 PM (zcf1k)

195 University officials can be held personally liable for discrimination against a Christian group

Our nightmare age won't end unless more of this happens.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2021 12:46 PM (pAjZN)

196 And it's the same people, then as now.

Yeah. Its not the cause, its the power and the feeling of being important that drives zealots. They are perfectly willing to change sides or their entire system, as long as they get to be the whip hand.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:47 PM (KZzsI)

197 I agree it's your susceptible or not, but know personally father to son cases.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:49 PM (Cxk7w)

198 They are perfectly willing to change sides or their entire system, as long as they get to be the whip hand.
=====

Jesus wielded the whip and also recommended selling your cloak to buy a sword.

No, you can't escape true responsibility by buying indulgences. (And the above statements are from a true agnostic.)

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2021 12:51 PM (MIKMs)

199 Okay bathroom and bedroom cleaned. Taking a break. lol.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 27, 2021 12:52 PM (nxdel)

200 THANK YOU for showing the Drama triangle!
Excellent way to counter the wokies.

Posted by: Herr Frau Doktor vmom at March 27, 2021 12:52 PM (qc8IS)

201 >>> 185 Racism against asians is kind of the last bastion of casual, commonly spread racism in our culture (other than against whites, but that's a different beast). It comes up here fairly often, racial slurs, jokes about how they all have small private parts, etc.

And nobody reacts. If you used the n-word instead of an asian slur, people would jump all over you. You call a Chinese guy a "ch--k" and people shrug if they even notice.

The racism is real, and its the old fashioned "everyone laughs at the same jokes and is comfortable with the slurs" kind that has otherwise been removed from society.

But that's not what asians face now. They're being physically attacked and killed just for being asian by black people. And that's the problem that everyone recognizes, but didn't want to talk about until they decided to somehow blame it on white people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:39 PM (KZzsI)

I've seen the "rise of anti-Asian hate" blamed specifically on the pandemic. Gosh, I wonder who all would want to push *that* on the US.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 27, 2021 12:53 PM (b8eqQ)

202
Dude here gets it: today's leftism is essentially a revival of medieval Catholicism, the bad old days version with all its corruption and bad things publicly happening to anyone who doesn't mindlessly obey the church/state union. And it's the same people, then as now.
Posted by: CppThis at March 27, 2021 12:45 PM (zcf1k)

I should watch Borgia again. Thanks for the indirect recommendation.

Posted by: Justsayin' at March 27, 2021 12:53 PM (Fs5vw)

203 Yeah it makes zero sense upon the slightest
examination but... it suddenly becomes all clear when you realize that
China is demanding nobody say anything ill about them. That's the
source of this: China must not be criticized, it is the Middle Kingdom,
above all others. Especially not by worthless Gwailo pigs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

that is the exact opposite of what Bill Maher said here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DH4v6FnbvM
you only have to watch the first minute. Not comparing you to Maher here, but in this one instance, I think the problem is somewhere else. The left will push America as racist at any instance. They will blame America any time an Asian is attacked. And if anyone decides they should attack an Asian in this country because of the virus, then they are as stupid and worthless as they come.

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 12:54 PM (mP2It)

204 As always, thank you, KT, for bringing the music.

(ps, I spent way too much time on a Meat Loaf exploration this morning.)

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2021 12:54 PM (MIKMs)

205 18 Sorry I'm late got have dashboard apart but can't get the cover off

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 11:27 AM (Cxk7w)

bigger hammer
Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

Sawzall.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 11:33 AM (C7ZH3)

Detcord

Posted by: Fox2!! at March 27, 2021 12:54 PM (qyH+l)

206 Many have covered the bases: it's actually racism itself, it's mostly about power and dominance, it clearly resembles all other such episodes/phenomena in human history.

KT's stuff is always fantastic, as here. But I can't shake the sense that anything other than a contemptuous dismissal of this toxic garbage as ignorant and power-mad racism and hate-mongering implicitly grants it too much legitimacy.

Sure would be nice if enough of old America - the least racist multi-ethnic and multi-cultural major nation in history - still existed to rise up and obliterate this hateful idiocy. Not just small push-back on the margins.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 12:54 PM (OTzUX)

207 "She was shocked last year when I told her I read the Bible but didn't go to church."

I am reading a biography of Gen. Douglass MacArthur, he was of the same bent.
The book is "American Ceasar".

Pretty interesting book. He wrote the constitution for post war Japan (or borrowed from existing others). In which, Japanese women were given citizen status for the first time.

Posted by: navybrat, plaid rocks at March 27, 2021 12:55 PM (w7KSn)

208 Here is another good professor win by an appeals court.
https://tinyurl.com/yv9zxnh2

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 27, 2021 12:56 PM (r+sAi)

209 Looks like someone ordered up another shooting last night?

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2021 12:57 PM (BX04l)

210 Australian wines might be a bargain, China throwing bigblock on it for next 5 years

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:58 PM (Cxk7w)

211 Gotta re-read "American Caesar". And Frank's bio of him.

The team that wrote Japan's current constitution was an interesting, small, fairly young group of people, as I recall. Detailed in "Embracing Defeat" - whose author did a good job on that, but has a bad case of Must Find Racism In American History when it comes to the brutal nature of the Pacific War.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

212 Looks like someone ordered up another shooting last night?
Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2021 12:57 PM (BX04l)

And they are not saying who they were, so I suspect BLM types.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 12:58 PM (85Gof)

213 Another shooting?

I mean, not in Chicago.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 12:59 PM (OTzUX)

214 >>And they are not saying who they were, so I suspect BLM types.

So. White Nationalists. Got it.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2021 01:00 PM (79EGH)

215 I remember hearing about transactional analysis in the 80s and 90s. A counselor at our church had a class based on "Codependent No More" if I recall the book title correctly.

Posted by: Emmie at March 27, 2021 01:01 PM (ofYez)

216 Little people killing littler people.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 01:01 PM (VWgBS)

217 There is some evidence that at least some alcoholics
break down liquor differently than other people releasing a compound
similar to heroin.

But at least some are that way out of destructive personal patterns,
etc. And you can fight it, either way. I have an extreme yen for
beautiful women but have managed to stay celibate for decades out of
grudging choice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

it is common knowledge that alcholism is genetic. That does't take away the fact that we all have to live by our decisions. But the idea that alcholism as some personal foible, based on nothing other than a lack of will, doesn't pass the smell test. Crap, there are babies born with addictions even if they are raised by parents without those addictions. Somethings in life are genetic and have scientific reasons. Hell, society has been telling us for decades that everything is based on science, have they not?

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 01:01 PM (mP2It)

218 Remember, shootings don't count if they are in Chicago.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2021 01:02 PM (MIKMs)

219 similar to heroin

Which drink?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 01:02 PM (VWgBS)

220 I always spell Caesar wrong, maybe because I can't type that character where the "a" is connected to the "e".

Posted by: navybrat, plaid rocks at March 27, 2021 01:04 PM (w7KSn)

221 Can anyone name a white supremacist group other than the aryan brotherhood?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2021 01:04 PM (kTF2Z)

222 Australians make a lot of really great wine. They also make a lot of plonk that they sell to the USA. Australians themselves would tell you this and not be shy about it a bit. Don't get me wrong, I like many of the cheaper Australian wines. You can get some decent stuff for a bit over $10. Yellow Tail is another story.

The wine i have always wanted to try but never have had a chance at, is Penfold's Grange. I would go for that one over a First Growth Bordeaux. I know many in the wine industry that never had a chance to try Grange.

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 01:05 PM (mP2It)

223 >>Can anyone name a white supremacist group other than the aryan brotherhood?

Easy.

The Republican Party

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2021 01:05 PM (QKYdL)

224 BTW - Chag Sameach to our Weather Controlling Morons.

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2021 01:06 PM (QKYdL)

225 some people that are called alcoholics also process the stuff differently and react to it differently. There is a lot of evidence that U.S. Grant was allergic to alcohol in many ways. That has been shown with many people. They can go very off kilter even if they only drink a small amount, and it can really mess them up. Then again, there are others that can drink for days on end, and at worst they have to piss a lot.

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 01:08 PM (mP2It)

226
Okay. I could go for some bumper stickers. Got any other ideas?

Saw this on a old hearse.
"Let's put the Funback in Funeral"

On an old hippie VW bus.
"I know high people in places"

Posted by: YIKES! at March 27, 2021 01:08 PM (t6XCL)

227 This is absolutely brilliant stuff. Depressing, scary, rage inducing, but brilliant. Thanks.

Posted by: Only Context at March 27, 2021 01:08 PM (xEIoY)

228 Granddaughter #3 had a kollidge klass assignment about racism last year. She called me to get my take on it since she knows I was a real live boy in Alabama during the Wallace years. I related a few of my memories from that time, including all the times Mumsey Dearest nearly pulled my arm out of its socket yanking me away from "Blacks Only" water fountains. I told her that crap went both ways.
Her final question was if I thought there was more racism today and I said there's less of it. A. Lot. Less.
All this racism is being manufactured by PROGDA as the wish-fulfillment of radical anti-Americans like Little Billy Ayers, who wanted badly to start a race war so he could take over and begin his killing spree. It's all artificial and that needs to be pointed out often.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at March 27, 2021 01:09 PM (HaL55)

229 To the point about college... A liberal arts education is worse than useless. Nothing of value is taught, and you're indoctrinated in poisonous beliefs. But you have to have credentials from one to show you're a good Marxist from the right social class to advance in life outside the hard sciences.

So, if I were some billionaire, my philanthropy would be to buy an obscure propaganda mill for fart-sniffing elitists; say, Goucher College. It would continue its current mission. On the surface. But I would have TAs in the classrooms to identify Freshmen who express wrong think... Then they'll "report" them. And they will disappear, apparently expelled, when in reality, we stamped out a 4.0 transcript and sent them out into the world, saving them the misery and brainwashing.

Save the Smart Children.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2021 01:09 PM (Uh2oA)

230 Easy.

The Republican Party

Posted by: garrett at March 27, 2021 01:05 PM (QKYdL)

The Rotary

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 01:09 PM (mP2It)

231 I always spell Caesar wrong, maybe because I can't type that character where the "a" is connected to the "e".
Posted by: navybrat

if it matters, and you are using a PC, hold down the the Alt key and type in 145

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Then again, most of the extended characters are borked on AoSHQ.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2021 01:10 PM (pAjZN)

232 My own uninformed opinion is that 'drinking' like 'smoking' is probably partly genetic and the other in response to missing enzymes or vitamins. I am the only person in my family who smokes; if I even attempted to drink like members of my family, I would no doubt have difficulties.

For my next trick, get funding for honest research about who is addicted to smoking. Drinking is probably cultural, so I am not as concerned (from growing up waaay to close to WCTU ground zero).

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2021 01:10 PM (MIKMs)

233 "Then again, there are others that can drink for days on end, and at worst they have to piss a lot. "

(I am in that group)

Posted by: navybrat, plaid rocks at March 27, 2021 01:10 PM (w7KSn)

234 Much good Aussie wine, and though that's changing a bit due to the general glut in the industry, some very good values (i.e. there's price pressure on medium-quality wine everywhere, so now there are more offerings in that segment).

Best deal I might have ever stumbled on was an amazing Aussie shiraz that had been dumped due to a legal dispute over the name, or some aspect of the business - a literal fire sale. Best local wine store had some. $20, originally sold for $75, and for good reason. My late older USMC vet friend and fellow wino and I lamented not buying cases of it for years afterward.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 01:11 PM (OTzUX)

235 These woke CRT advocates are making the same arguments Hitler used. Replace Jews with whites and it sounds exactly the same as the hate they spew, complete with the digs at capitalism. Scary, scary stuff.

Posted by: Daveyardbird at March 27, 2021 01:12 PM (9JWJp)

236 Can't use Unicode here has to be HTML ligatures:

Cæsar

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2021 01:12 PM (Uh2oA)

237
Australian wines might be a bargain, China throwing bigblock on it for next 5 years

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 12:58 PM

I've been buying Aussie wines for years. I have a lot of respect for their people and their efforts to support this country.

Yellowtail (Aussie) Cabernet Sauvignon is currently on sale at $6.99 a bottle at the PA State Stores. Shortly after I retired I took an old "root cellar' (what the original owners called it) and installed a cedar plank ceiling, bricked up some arches, stucco'd the walls, installed some shelves, and presto... wine cellar. The Cab Sav that was parked down their for years became phenomenal. Then my wife, who loves wine, retired. All the old stuff is now gone. *sniff*

Posted by: Bill from Attainder at March 27, 2021 01:13 PM (N/gDA)

238 It's been pointed out racism is the new old communists class warfare. Oh they still love their class warfare but racism is the new twist.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:13 PM (Cxk7w)

239 I imagine imagery will "leak" of the VA Beach festivities. Read the police statement (@Breaking911). Yikes. Sounds like ISIS or the Jalisco Nueva Generacion cartel are doing spring break there. Three different shooting incidents, separate, about the same time, in a limited area.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 01:13 PM (OTzUX)

240 They also made sure all the top Dems had the antidote.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:29 PM (OU+8W)

My take:
The in-group of the ruling class were taking HCQ as a prophylactic. Trump blew their cover when he announced he was taking it and Americans did not need to be afraid. That's when AMA prohibited its use for treatment to keep people out of hospitals and morgues, starting when Trump promoted it and ending after the election.

Posted by: Emmie at March 27, 2021 01:13 PM (ofYez)

241 OK, time to go see B'Gal in the horsepiddle. Y'all don't burn the place down, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at March 27, 2021 01:13 PM (HaL55)

242 221 Can anyone name a white supremacist group other than the aryan brotherhood?
___________

The Klan.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 27, 2021 01:13 PM (k4dH2)

243 Okay. I could go for some bumper stickers. Got any other ideas?

On an old truck years ago:

Silly faggot, dicks are for chicks.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:14 PM (E0OEG)

244 Bill you must be my lost brother I never had.
I had over 100 bottles here once, those left of that are $100 bottles being saved for a rainy day to drown my sorrows.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:15 PM (Cxk7w)

245 I mean that the values in Aussie wine were becoming less distinctive, not that the quality was declining. More mid-range decent stuff on the market than 10 years go, price pressure (competition, that exotic and dubious mechanism all these rapacious free market zealots always rave about).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 01:15 PM (OTzUX)

246 Can anyone name a white supremacist group other than the aryan brotherhood?

According to Sundown and austin, the US Miiltary

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 01:15 PM (85Gof)

247 I used to both smoke and drink. Quit drinking over 30 years ago and smoking a little over 10 years ago. Quitting drinking was, by far, the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. It was as if my best friend died. I fought urges to jump back into the drinking game for a decade or more. Horrible. My family is lousy with alcoholics... I just didn't want that for my kids.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 27, 2021 01:16 PM (flINI)

248 My take:
The in-group of the ruling class were taking HCQ as a prophylactic. Trump blew their cover when he announced he was taking it and Americans did not need to be afraid. That's when AMA prohibited its use for treatment to keep people out of hospitals and morgues, starting when Trump promoted it and ending after the election.
Posted by: Emmie

This is how I remember it. They were all in on villinizing (is that a word?) anything Trump.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:16 PM (E0OEG)

249 "always had mixed feelings about deprogramming but it appears it was necessary and worked in many cases."

it seems "good" for Moonies maybe, or SJWs maybe. BUT one can pay to deprogram an adult Lutheran to be Catholic again, or vice-versa. It was (is?) in every way evil. Even in prison reform, imo, there is perhaps some "undue influence" permissible (confinement is "correctional"), but the concept of "free will" allows argument, but not forced "conversion".

But the terrorism being pushed by Big Gov, with our FBI now imprisoning political 1/6 prisoners, is its own form of deprogramming a nation of patriots. Orwellian Totalitarianism is deprogramming on a national (global?) scale. Christianity is free will conversion, applied to a government it is Liberty as in the bill of rights.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2021 01:17 PM (Cus5s)

250 But the idea that alcholism as some personal foible, based on nothing other than a lack of will, doesn't pass the smell test.

No, its well known that there are people who have an addictive personality but not a particular genetic weakness to alcohol. They will get locked into booze because of this tendency, but even if they break that they just get another addiction to replace it.

And there are some who aren't medically alcoholics who get deep into drinking not out of a genetic need but just as an escape, to bury themselves in an alcoholic haze, and find it very difficult to get out.

Each have their own particular troubles to face and deal with, and booze is just the focus at the time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

251 It's really nice out, should get out and try something else.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:19 PM (Cxk7w)

252 To echo several above, the barrage I have directed at this toxic idiocy since it began -

"white supremacy"

* what are the groups, how big are they, what have they actually done?
* what is their "program"? what part of their program is part of any actual discussion of anything in the public square, pop culture, legislatures, courts, or government?

America's degradation keeps surpassing my expectations. This is UFO/extra-terrestrial/vampire-level nonsense, actually being promoted by public officials.

Would it ever occur to any of the seat-warming non-entities of the GOP (this includes the "best" of them) to confront this garbage, directly, viciously, naming names and demanding answers? I crack myself up!

Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 01:20 PM (OTzUX)

253 Who knew Charles Manson was just ahead of his time? I think this goes Yugoslavia, but not purely on ethnicity/race like they are fomenting. I expect more an urban/rural schism.

Posted by: Only Context at March 27, 2021 01:20 PM (xEIoY)

254 17 tornados in the south last night, 6 dead

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:21 PM (Cxk7w)

255 This is how I remember it. They were all in on villinizing (is that a word?) anything Trump.
Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:16 PM (E0OEG)

It's unfathomable how many people the Deep State was willing to kill to get rid of Trump.

Posted by: Emmie at March 27, 2021 01:21 PM (ofYez)

256 Who knew Charles Manson was just ahead of his time? I think this goes Yugoslavia, but not purely on ethnicity/race like they are fomenting. I expect more an urban/rural schism.
Posted by: Only Context at March 27, 2021 01:20 PM (xEIoY)

Correct. Suburbia will by ugly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 01:22 PM (C7ZH3)

257 I used to both smoke and drink. Quit drinking over 30 years ago and smoking a little over 10 years ago. Quitting drinking was, by far, the hardest thing I've ever done in my life. It was as if my best friend died. I fought urges to jump back into the drinking game for a decade or more. Horrible. My family is lousy with alcoholics... I just didn't want that for my kids.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 27, 2021 01:16 PM (flINI)

I quit alcohol and tobacco (but not firearms!) well over a decade ago. For me it was the other way around. Tobacco was a bear, but alcohol was just a decision I made. Haven't looked back... although occasionally I lick my chops at something booze-wise that looks tasty.

No matter what anyone says though, there's no benefit to either. It's all illusion.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 01:23 PM (9qhLe)

258 Be ugly.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 01:23 PM (C7ZH3)

259 I'm keeping a low profile Emm.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:24 PM (E0OEG)

260 This is how I remember it. They were all in on villinizing (is that a word?) anything Trump.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:16 PM (E0OEG)

Yeah...spelled wrong and everything.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 01:24 PM (AwYPR)

261 Yeah...spelled wrong and everything.
Posted by: BignJames

Okay, so I forgot the a. Sue me.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:26 PM (E0OEG)

262 Be ugly.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 27, 2021 01:23 PM (C7ZH3)

---------

Bein ugly over here, boss!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2021 01:26 PM (kTF2Z)

263 Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 27, 2021 01:16 PM (flINI)

all respect up to you Truck.

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 01:27 PM (mP2It)

264 I'm a non-conformist.

Off to do chores.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:27 PM (E0OEG)

265 Okay, so I forgot the a. Sue me.

Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:26 PM (E0OEG)

No standing.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 01:27 PM (AwYPR)

266 OAN - 20 Chinese aircraft fly through Taiwan airspace
It's nice to have a employee in the White house

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:29 PM (Cxk7w)

267 I wish, at times, I could just sit down and have a glass or 2 of wine like everyone else. The problem is/was that I could never stop, and by the end of the night I'd be drinking out of the bottle after everyone else had called it a night.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 27, 2021 01:30 PM (flINI)

268 Would it ever occur to any of the seat-warming non-entities of the GOP (this includes the "best" of them) to confront this garbage, directly, viciously, naming names and demanding answers? I crack myself up!
Posted by: rhomboid at March 27, 2021 01:20 PM (OTzUX)

-----------

A good place to start would be with Chris Wray. He testified recently that white nationalists were the biggest threat to the country. Ok, where are they? What are they and what do they want? Surely the head of the largest LE org in the country would know, right? No one asked any questions, just accepted it at face value.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2021 01:32 PM (kTF2Z)

269 Anyone on Taiwan with an American passport should be using it and getting out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 27, 2021 01:32 PM (85Gof)

270 Truck Monkey not unlike someone not having dessert because of diabetes really.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:32 PM (Cxk7w)

271 Twitter says calling the Syrian Muslim CO shooter a "white Christian terrorist" does not violate its policies on misinformation or hate

https://bit.ly/2PDqTNy

Well, 33 1/3 % true is pretty good.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 27, 2021 01:32 PM (VVEnO)

272 259 I'm keeping a low profile Emm.
Posted by: Infidel at March 27, 2021 01:24 PM (E0OEG)

You mean not advertising your belief system?

I think there will be different roles for all of us in the burning times. Some will be called to speak the truth out loud. Some will stand and defend ground, like Nurse. Some will go "gray man" and resist anonymously. Some will do their part by moving now and not needing to be rescued from a hellhole (that's our strategy. We also plan to help resist the leftist rot in our new location). And so on.

Posted by: Emmie at March 27, 2021 01:33 PM (ofYez)

273 My favorite bumper sticker was: Nuke the Unborn Gay Whales.

Second Fav is sort of local: Happiness is a Texan headed south with an Okie under each arm.

And when the US Gov was preventing us from building the pipeline: Let the Bastards Freeze in the Dark.

I guess Alaskans are a bit outspoken and not always so PC.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at March 27, 2021 01:33 PM (N5Tno)

274 Thank budhaha that i didn't have children. I'd be foaming at the mouth at the breadth of gov control of children.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 27, 2021 01:33 PM (VWgBS)

275 GARDEN NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at March 27, 2021 01:33 PM (Cxk7w)

276 A good place to start would be with Chris Wray. He testified recently that white nationalists were the biggest threat to the country. Ok, where are they? What are they and what do they want? Surely the head of the largest LE org in the country would know, right? No one asked any questions, just accepted it at face value.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at March 27, 2021 01:32 PM (kTF2Z)

Yup...he was full of shit but he enjoyed getting that propaganda out there. Then he went and had his hair did. Can't stand that bastard. He is a UniParty Hack.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 27, 2021 01:34 PM (R/m4+)

277 Dumb thought of the week: theories are hypotheses that have been tested and are demonstrated to hold some fidelity to reality.

CRT haven't and can't be tested by the proponents own insistence.

It ain't a theory. It ain't a hypothesis. It's malevolent superstition.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2021 01:35 PM (pAjZN)

278 Bill you must be my lost brother I never had.
I had over 100 bottles here once, those left of that are $100 bottles being saved for a rainy day to drown my sorrows.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:15 PM

I'm not, nor ever been a wine snob. But when I tasted a Cab Sav that was like five years old I had to look twice at the label.

We don't live that far apart. I'm ten minutes south of you, I think. Maybe some weekend we can meet for lunch on the deck at the Fitz Station, I'll buy.

Posted by: Bill from Attainder at March 27, 2021 01:35 PM (N/gDA)

279 I wish, at times, I could just sit down and have a
glass or 2 of wine like everyone else. The problem is/was that I could
never stop, and by the end of the night I'd be drinking out of the
bottle after everyone else had called it a night.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 27, 2021 01:30 PM (flINI)

I understand Truck, people react differently. I respect anyone who identifies something not working in their lives and actually does something to change it. That is not common really. Sure a lot of people gave up smoking but also that was societal change over the decades. Giving up booze is not easy for someone who has the addiction. If you never liked it, it is the easiest thing ever. The latter is not more moral, just more lucky.

Posted by: Quint at March 27, 2021 01:36 PM (mP2It)

280 You know what Adolph Hitler, John Wayne Gacy, and Ted Bundy had in common?

Atlanta Stone
@AtlantaRodgers
"Breathing is an offensive weapon" says Dr Sarah Jarvis.

-
Damn breathing sumbitches!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 27, 2021 01:37 PM (VVEnO)

281 My knowledge of Red history is limited, are there any days of importance upcoming that would make for a good day to Red Dawn Taipei?

Posted by: Only Context at March 27, 2021 01:37 PM (xEIoY)

282 I always spell Caesar wrong, maybe because I can't type that character where the "a" is connected to the "e".
Posted by: navybrat
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type '&' + '#' + '230', no spaces , no quotes, just the character string.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2021 01:38 PM (L47aO)

283 Yeah just across river from Phoenixville, could meet up for lunch

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:39 PM (Cxk7w)

284 And now, Bible study with Catholics For Choice.

https://bit.ly/3rtr1N4

Satanists For Evil also approve this message.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 27, 2021 01:41 PM (VVEnO)

285 Yeah just across river from Phoenixville, could meet up for lunch

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 01:39 PM

I'll watch the forecast for a good weekend afternoon.

Posted by: Bill from Attainder at March 27, 2021 01:42 PM (N/gDA)

286 æ

Posted by: navybrat, plaid rocks at March 27, 2021 01:44 PM (w7KSn)

287 OK, I am slightly more useful than I was an hour ago, thanks!

Posted by: navybrat, plaid rocks at March 27, 2021 01:45 PM (w7KSn)

288 �

Posted by: navybrat, plaid rocks at March 27, 2021 01:44 PM (w7KSn)

more precious than...&

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 01:46 PM (AwYPR)

289 see?

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 01:46 PM (AwYPR)

290 I ran across that in a book I was reading. The attitude was that there's no harm in a little drink. But it's never a little drink for an alcoholic. It's about drinking till it's gone, never having a day without a drink. My first husband managed to just stop and I was very grateful he did.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at March 27, 2021 01:46 PM (YynYJ)

291 It's about drinking till it's gone, never having a day without a drink. My first husband managed to just stop and I was very grateful he did.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at March 27, 2021 01:46 PM (YynYJ)

I used to drink beer every day...now I drink maybe 1 a month...it wasn't a conscious decision to quit or cut down...it just happened.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2021 01:51 PM (AwYPR)

292 So... Baltimore decided to go full The Wire

https://tinyurl.com/49ew7avh

A year ago, as the coronavirus began to spread across Maryland, Baltimore State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby stopped prosecuting drug possession, prostitution, minor traffic violations and other low-level offenses, a move aimed at curbing Covid-19's spread behind bars.

In the 12 months since she ordered scaled-back enforcement, property crime has declined 36 percent, she said.

Strangely, when you stop prosecuting crimes, they stop being criminal acts. I mean, they're still happening, just nobody is being arrested for it, so the stats look better.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 27, 2021 01:51 PM (KZzsI)

293 "But it's never a little drink for an alcoholic. It's about drinking till it's gone, never having a day without a drink."
I'm not clear if "alcoholism" is inherited (genetic), or if it a more broad "inclined to addictions" trait, which allows others sorts of addictive behavior to replace alcohol. Other drugs maybe, or even addiction to anything (sex?, exercise?).
--My family had no alcoholics I know of, and I just stopped beer (or any alcohol) when I did more strict keto for six months. ... But I kinda tried to make keto "an addiction", or habit at least ... charting my ketones and weight, kinda making a ritual of it. Religion (Christian or SJW) can have its "addictive" side also maybe, but should be more of a discipline than a "craving", I'd guess. --
Certainly the more intense SJW screamers seem "addicted" to their whoring for attention, drunk on the power they have been handed, no discipline required.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2021 02:06 PM (Cus5s)

294 Who speaks for the remnant of decent people who are trapped in Baltimore now that the city is going full on Escape from New York? Seriously, where is the governor stepping in and saying, "like hell you are." Oh I forgot he's a worthless RINO. I can't imagine any businesses there staying. How do you protect your employees or customers?

Posted by: Only Context at March 27, 2021 02:15 PM (xEIoY)

295 I have a serious question. Do any of you think that Trump is protected by God Himself? I mean, all believers have His protection, and I mean no disrespect to anyone; I just wonder how this one man has gone against the powers of the prince of this world, and still thrives.

Posted by: Jmel at March 27, 2021 02:20 PM (bVhJi)

296 I just wonder how this one man has gone against the powers of the prince of this world, and still thrives.
Posted by: Jmel at March 27, 2021 02:20 PM (bVhJi)

Good question

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at March 27, 2021 02:22 PM (P4Pk9)

297 IMO some are, but you never know until that time comes when out right you shouldn't be alive but your not.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 02:24 PM (Cxk7w)

298 Maybe Moseby is thinking Baltimore as the new Der Wallen or Patpong? How many great American cities are we going to watch be destroyed by Democrats?

Posted by: Only Context at March 27, 2021 02:26 PM (xEIoY)

299 Maybe Moseby is thinking Baltimore as the new Der Wallen or Patpong? How many great American cities are we going to watch be destroyed by Democrats?
Posted by: Only Context at March 27, 2021 02:26 PM (xEIoY)

Are there any large cities left that the democrats have not destroyed?

I can't think of any.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 27, 2021 02:28 PM (R/m4+)

300 Wear your damn mask.

Posted by: Gov Hogan at March 27, 2021 02:30 PM (C7ZH3)

301 My paranoid view is that the Democrats, desperate to cripple Trump, went to the Chinese and said "How can you help us?" And the Chinese said they had a virus slightly more deadly than the flu, and the US news media could do the rest.

They also made sure all the top Dems had the antidote.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 27, 2021 12:29 PM (OU+8W)

I think that's certainly possible. China might have just initiated it on their own, since they had their own reasons for getting rid of Trump. But the Dems are so fully owned by China, the cooperation between them on this was possibly quite high.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 27, 2021 12:33 PM (9qhLe)

I doubt the first, since in that case the Dems would not have spent the first months downplaying Covid and objecting to Trump stopping travel and embarrassed themselves encouraging entertainment in their cities.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 27, 2021 02:45 PM (eoQWY)

302 " in that case the Dems would not have spent the first months downplaying
Covid and objecting to Trump stopping travel and embarrassed themselves
encouraging entertainment in their cities."

unless they did that specifically to better spread it, get the "fire" started ... into a wildfire ... THEN flip from accusing Trump of doing too much, to not doing enough, and start the real destruction of economy and social gatherings (churches and small business -- Trump people -- hardest hit)

Posted by: illiniwek at March 27, 2021 02:51 PM (Cus5s)

303 The Deep Rig ebook has evidence both Dominion machines and fake ballots came from China,suspects some funding may have come China

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 02:55 PM (Cxk7w)

304 I would go maskless everywhere if I could.
If I get the shot, I am not putting it on. If I had the stick end I want the carrot

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 02:59 PM (Cxk7w)

305 I went to Lowes this morning. Masking was 25% at most.

This thing is over.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2021 03:01 PM (yQpMk)

306 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at March 27, 2021 03:01 PM (Cxk7w)

307 *cracks open first beer of the day*

Damn, I'm running late.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 27, 2021 03:01 PM (DTX3h)

308 Better late than never.

Posted by: fluffy at March 27, 2021 03:07 PM (UnQlg)

309 Well this is the loneliness time here, good time to get moving on my book reading, and have a movie to watch on YouTube

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 03:12 PM (Cxk7w)

310
So Baltimore is now going to legalize prostitution - by not enforcing laws against it. I guess since Maryland is famous for its Blue Crabs it will give new meaning to the phrase, "Hon, I'm gonna swing by the Harbor on the way home and get some crabs."

Posted by: Bill from Attainder at March 27, 2021 03:13 PM (N/gDA)

311 I go maskless everywhere. I also have very little contact with people submerged in a fictional reality. I have my family that shares my philosophies and reside in an area largely comprised of people who live in real life, not some distorted fiction.

Quite frankly I've no interest in interacting with the progressive left at all, we share nothing save both are carbon based life forms, consequently I will live in accord with my principles learned from my parents, if that poses a problem then deal. So all that segment of society may shove themselves.

Posted by: irongrampa at March 27, 2021 03:17 PM (KATBx)

312 "The only difference is, she takes aim at us, while we take aim at ideas."

And that is why "the right" is losing.

This should not be an "either/or" proposition. These woke lunatics should be defeated intellectually, and utterly discredited both personally and professionally. God gave you two fists. Use them both.

Posted by: bot at March 27, 2021 03:20 PM (1dzqn)

313 But remember, therapists and counselors are professional Rescuers, and they'll never be out of a job, because people who have been abused need to be Rescued. The only way to break this cycle is by stopping abuse, and I never figured out how to do that.

Posted by: grayishpanther at March 27, 2021 03:55 PM (4gr6V)

314 By not making it criminal yet not under law they will condem many young people to it.
Nice 1 stage thinking Baltimore

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2021 04:00 PM (Cxk7w)

315 Bumper stickers are a bad idea. Because the left is willing to key your car, and you are not willing to key - or do anything else to - theirs.

Until the right is willing and capable of meeting every leftist use of force with overwhelming counterforce - up to and including counterforce superior to any state law enforcement agency the left might have suborned into obeying them and not prosecuting them - any of this public square LARPing will go nowhere.

Posted by: rold at March 27, 2021 04:11 PM (YfyvB)

316 The classic bumper stickers:

Question Authority

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at March 27, 2021 04:19 PM (2BZBZ)

317 archive.org have created a new category collection (de-emphasized sequestration) called "Off-Center and Outsider" for uploaded texts which its system operator algorithms find disagreeable. So yeah, the fascists at archive will now lump ordinary conservative texts with anti-semetic nazi talk and all sort of crazy things.

Of course I can't post a link because pixy won't allow it.

Posted by: 13times at March 27, 2021 04:28 PM (K3B2k)

318 off-center and outsider link:

https://tinyurl.com/jwx5abht

Posted by: 13times at March 27, 2021 04:29 PM (K3B2k)

319 OT random observation. My work has a satellite mission co-sponsored by Taiwan. They download a good chunk of the data we process. For the 3rd time in 5 days there is an outage, with not getting this data that they send to us via internet after they downlink it from the spacecraft.

I'm beginning to entertain conspiracy theories that China or our own China owned government is doing something to disrupt internet communications to/from Taiwan.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 27, 2021 04:42 PM (Aashi)

320 I went to Lowes this morning. Masking was 25% at most.

This thing is over.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 27, 2021 03:01 PM (yQpMk)

You obviously don't live in Maskifornia.

Posted by: InCali at March 27, 2021 05:35 PM (9AFWN)

321 Holy crap this is a good post.

Something to savor on the weekend. thanks Mr. Open Blogger.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 27, 2021 05:44 PM (LWu6U)

322 bot at 03:20 PM
A couple of things: he is working at a university where most of "the right" has already been pushed out. And he's a liberal, though he is friendly toward conservatives. If he attacks the loons personally, he's out too. At least he can attack their ideas from the inside at this time and expose their unwillingness to debate. I don't think he can attack them personally in an effective way, as a lone figure.

If you want to take the "fight fire with fire" personal approach, his friend James Lindsay is kind of doing that. See his Twitter feed. You could send him a little money at New Discourses.

Posted by: KT at March 27, 2021 08:21 PM (BVQ+1)

323 Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest 05:44 PM
Nice to hear from you. How are things going?

Posted by: KT at March 27, 2021 08:22 PM (BVQ+1)

324 Reading some of the links between chores, I have a point to make.

One thing that has long bothered me is that all this is so backward looking. Now looking back at the cause is not always a waste, and is important in terms of "justice," but justice is a damnable word. Christianity has it right in claiming that there is no justice in this world but it is only to found in the next. (If I understand properly.)

Justice is what children want. Being an adult is accepting things as they are and moving forward.

In this case the result is even worse - if you blame others for your situation you will not change it. If you wrongly blame others, then you are stuck in a festering pit of self pity and each layer of your own doing is heaped onto others.

Reparations, for example. Has anyone even attempted to explain how windfall cash is going to help anyone?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 27, 2021 09:19 PM (LWu6U)

325 Hey KT.

I'm surviving.
(Cherry about to bloom. apricot just opened yesterday.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 27, 2021 09:20 PM (LWu6U)

326 KT,
I missed the comment about mason bees last week. I need to check my bees (they are in the garage) but I think they all already split. This is a sore subject. It is like playing a video game in super slow motion. I reached the level where I have blossoms, and last year I hand pollinated, but all the cherries rotted because it was too wet.

In Japan, you need to raise mason bees (horn faced bees over here,) and cover the trees under an awning to keep the water off on some years.

Same with grapes - each year I find a new obstacle I have to learn to get past.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 27, 2021 09:30 PM (LWu6U)

327 Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest

I am amazed at the challenges involved in growing fruit in Japan.

Posted by: KT at March 28, 2021 12:20 AM (BVQ+1)

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