Sunday Morning Book Thread 02-21-2021

Another View of the Old Cincinnati Public Library

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, that were rejected by the Festrunk Brothers for being way too dorky.

Pic Note:

I have featured the magnificant old Cincinnati Public Library in previous book threads (see here and here) but never knew much about it, other than it was just an old building that is no longer standing. But wait, there's more:

First constructed in 1874, Old Cincinnati Library was built on a site intended for an opera house...

From the gorgeous chequered marble flooring to the massive arched skylight ceiling, the library was a feat of architectural beauty. Cast iron shelves teeming with books spread across the four-story main hall, creating a labyrinth of literature that was a sight to behold for patrons.

The huge glass ceiling flooded the library with natural light, providing ample illumination for those searching through the endless catalogue of books -it’s though the total capacity was an incredible 300,000!

This is from Photographs of the Enchanting Old Cincinnati Library from 1847-1955, which, as the title suggests, includes more great photos.

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

I came up with OVERPASS and PASSOVER. Also BACKTRACK and TRACKBACK. Let's see what you morons can do with this.

1984 Knocking On Your Door...

You all remember Mark Judge, right? He was the guy whom the MSM thought could deliver the goods on the depredations of Brett Kavanaugh and his gropey rapey pirate ship that terrorized the eastern seaboard for years and nobody ever knew about it, certainly not anyone at any of Kavanaugh's previous confirmation hearings -- until Doctor Christine Blaisey Doctor Ford ratted him out. Only Judge says he doesn't remember any of it, wasn't even there and was certainly never aboard Kavanaugh's rape boat, so they had to see if they could find someone else to bear false witness to Ford's lies.

Anyway, Mr. Judge is a writer of books and commentary, such as this piece 'They Were Relentless': How I Learned Respect for Our Communist Media, which is a review of a book written by Father Walter Ciszek, a priest who spent 20+ years in the Soviet gulag because he was "convicted" of being a spy for the Vatican. At first, he did not take his captors seriously and the psychological pressure they could bring to bear. But that changed when

...he realized what he was dealing with. The Russians were not about to stop asking him the same questions over and over again for days on end. They were not going to listen to facts or reason. “They were relentless, and they were thorough, and they were good at their trade,” Ciszek notes.

Judge then relates this to his own experience with having to deal with the character assassins of the MSM:

The reporter who has just called you with a list of personal questions might be a goofball — or a trained and skilled interrogator. Assume, to be on the safe side, that he is very likely a deeply damaged, ideologically obsessed and angry human being. One who cares nothing about you, fairness, or even your life. Just like the Russians who tortured Fr. Ciszek.

The book is He Leadeth Me: An Extraordinary Testament of Faith, wherein Father Ciszek relates how he endured the prolonged ordeal:

Only through an utter reliance on God's will did he manage to endure the extreme hardship. He tells of the courage he found in prayer--a courage that eased the loneliness, the pain, the frustration, the anguish, the fears, the despair. For, as Ciszek relates, the solace of spiritual contemplation gave him an inner serenity upon which he was able to draw amidst the "arrogance of evil" that surrounded him. Ciszek learns to accept the inhuman work in the infamous Siberian salt mines as a labor pleasing to God...

He Leadeth Me is a book to inspire all Christians to greater faith and trust in God--even in their darkest hour. As the author asks, "What can ultimately trouble the soul that accepts every moment of every day as a gift from the hands of God and strives always to do his will?"

The Kindle edition is $11.99. Judge's review comes complete with a 3 AM knock on his door. I almost wish he had answered it. Let me rephrase that: After reading his review, and how the MSM treated him, I almost wish he had opened the door and then shot the guy in the face.

Who Dis:

(click to enlarge)(Last week's 'who dis' was actress Sarah Michelle Gellar, back when she was very young and some vampires needed killin'.

Moron Recommendations

14 I read To Sleep in a Sea of Stars by Christopher Paolini. In 2257 exobiologist, Kira, finds an alien relic. This sets off a series of events which lead to the Earth and its colonies to the brink of annihilation. An interesting, exciting story populated by strange, alien life forms. Also of interest is the afterword in which Paolini describes the long road taken to get this book to print. Not a road for the lazy or easily discouraged.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 14, 2021 09:07 AM (qb8uZ)

To Sleep in a Sea of Stars is listed on Amazon as an "Editor's Pick"

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33 Just for fun, I'm reading "The Talented Mr. Varg," by Alexander McCall

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 14, 2021 09:14 AM (TdMsT)

The Talented Mr. Varg appears to be the third in a series. It sounds like some comedy or some sort of farce:

In the second installment in the best-selling Detective Varg series...

Like I said, second in a series.

Ulf and his team investigate a notorious philanderer—a wolf of a man whose bad reputation may be all bark and no bite.

The Department of Sensitive Crimes, renowned for taking on the most obscure and irrelevant cases is always prepared to dive into an investigation, no matter how complex. So when the girlfriend of an infamous author who insists her bad-boy beau is being blackmailed approaches Ulf Varg, the department’s lead detective, Ulf is determined to help. It’s rather difficult to determine what skeletons hide in the hard-living Lothario’s closet, though. And while Swedes are notoriously tolerant . . . well, there are limits. Even for the Swedish.

The first is called The Department of Sensitive Crimes:

In the Swedish criminal justice system, certain cases are considered especially strange and difficult, in Malmö, the dedicated detectives who investigate these crimes are members of an elite squad known as the Sensitive Crimes Division.

These are their stories.

BONG! BONG!

What kind of cases we talking about here? Cases like these:

The first case: the small matter of a man stabbed in the back of the knee. Who would perpetrate such a crime and why? Next: a young woman's imaginary boyfriend goes missing. But how on earth do you search for someone who doesn't exist? And in the final investigation: eerie secrets that are revealed under a full moon may not seem so supernatural in the light of day. No case is too unusual, too complicated, or too, well insignificant for this squad to solve.

The author, Alexander McCall Smith, has written a ton of books, including The No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency series.

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Here's a freebie for you Harry Potter fans. A lurking moron e-mailed me to tell me about an online book that I guess could be described as HP reimagined:

Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality is the story of Harry Potter as it would have been if his “mom” (Aunt Petunia) had received a major beauty upgrade from Harry’s real mom and went on to marry an Oxford Professor. Harry is raised with two people who care for him, in a home filled with science and tutors. Instead of going to Griffendor, he ends up in Ravenclaw (with Hermione, after Harry blows off Ron). From there on it, the story escalates as Harry applies the scientific method to magic, and begins to understand its foundations the way the Magical World never did. All while the Defense Professor (Quirrell) takes way too great an interest in Harry, befriending him and training his raw young intellect. This is Harry Potter done right, and in a fashion that doesn’t drag through seven years and too many innocent deaths from secrets kept. Well recommended (and apparently it was authorized by JK Rowling, although not for [the author] to make money).

You can go to the hosting site and read it online or download it in various e-book formats.

This reminds me of the magic/computer mashup books I read a number of years ago wherein a computer geek gets sucked into a magic-rich universe where the magic is powerful, but flakey, unpredictable, and not easily controlled. Nobody knows why he's there until he learns how to make a magical equivalent to "1" and "0", and from those binary digits, he proceeds to use his nerd/geek skills to construct spells like writing computer programs that work reliably well all the time. The author's name is Rick Cook and his books are available as inexpensive, DRM-free e-book compilations here, here, and there was even an additional installment I never got to, here. I found the writing to be a bit amateurish, but nonetheless entertaining.

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'Prince Ludwig the Deplorable' e-mails:

I thought I’d pass along a recommendation for The Long Moonlight by Razörfist. To my knowledge, it’s the first ever fantasy-noir novel. Think Tolkien meets The Maltese Falcon, with strong Robert E Howard/Walter B Gibson pulp serial influence. It was a fun read.

Something is poking me way, way in the back of my brain telling me that this is not the first time I've heard about a sword-and-sorcery/noir mashup, but I just can't recall. Oh well, it will probably come to be days from now. Anyway, here is the blurb:

MENUVIA

A sparkling gem made rough stone, the seat of political power in the Kingdom of Vale. Revolt foments among the patrician class and open gang war looms on the horizon. As the Argentine Tower plots revolution, a lone thief with a past as dark as Menuvia itself picks the wrong lock and opens the wrong door. Shadows still cast in the dark of night, underneath THE LONG MOONLIGHT.

Featuring a series of original illustrations.

And to buy this novel, you don't have to give Jeff Bezos any money. Here is the publisher's link to the $4.99 DRM-free e-book. You can also spend a little more for one of the dead tree editions.

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Books By Morons

Moron author Max Cossack has a new novel out. According to the e-mail he sent me:

There’s a new Max Cossack novel out this week, number 5 in the “Wilder Bunch” series beginning with “Khaybar, Minnesota,” and including “Simple Grifts.” It’s “Where There Is No Man”, in which Sam Lapidos and his Mauritanian-born law partner Jacob Laghdaf take on a series of new Arizona clients, each one plunging their lives into ever more violent turmoil, and each new day bringing their clients and themselves closer to destruction. It’s “suspenseful, action-packed, sometimes moving, often laugh-out-loud funny, and always PC-indifferent.”

Where There is No Man is $2.99 on Kindle and $12.99 for the paperback edition. In fact, all five installments of the Hack Wilder series are priced at $2.99 Kindle/$12.99 paperback.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

Comments

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1 The lovely Pola Negri!

Thank, you, OM.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:02 AM (2JVJo)

2 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at February 21, 2021 09:03 AM (7EjX1)

3 Bookrn Morgen Horden!

love the biblioburro

Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 09:04 AM (nUhF0)

4 Pola looked very pretty in that pic

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:04 AM (ONvIw)

5 Morning, Horde. Finished Book 3 of "A View from the Mirror" by Ian Irvine and started Book 4. Oh, and I'm currently Saruman's errand boy in the dungeons of Isengard in Lord of the Rings Online. Secretly undermining his efforts to take over Middle-Earth, of course...Like any proper subversive Moron in good standing.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at February 21, 2021 09:05 AM (hQrcu)

6 Library by M.C. Escher

Posted by: San Franpsycho at February 21, 2021 09:05 AM (EZebt)

7
g'mornin, bookish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 21, 2021 09:05 AM (MIuvZ)

8 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I love the spiral staircases in that library.

Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 09:06 AM (OX9vb)

9 I knew MP4 would get this one.

Hello Book Horde!

Are we a Horde? Are we horned-helm savages?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

10 Theda Bara?

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 09:08 AM (AwYPR)

11 Happy Sunday, horde! Those pants were blinding, OM. And I loved "He Leadeth Me" - wonderful book, highly recommend.
It's sunny outside this weekend (finally) but so I'm dividing my time between reading and being outdoors. But I can always put off chores by reading. This past week I finished "Strange Gods: Unmasking the Idols in Everyday Life" by Elizabeth Scalia, who blogs as the Anchoress. It is a superb book for Lenten reflections. Scalia uses examples from her own life and others to describe how we make idols of ourselves, our ideologies and our technology. This book was originally published in 2013, and it's become even more pertinent today as we retreat into our own political corners.

Posted by: CarolinaGirl at February 21, 2021 09:08 AM (Kh9rg)

12 Happy Sunday all. I have heard of Father Ciszek before. I need to follow up and learn more.

*glances down*

Whoa! Back in a sec.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 09:09 AM (Rvt88)

13 Morning horde. I'm trying to increase my fiction reading, but spend so much time reading online, it makes it difficult to read for pleasure.

Posted by: iandeal at February 21, 2021 09:09 AM (iEpAM)

14 It seems like there should be a gang of absinthe-drinking biker aesthetes called The Wilde Bunch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:10 AM (Dc2NZ)

15 "The first case: the small matter of a man stabbed in the back of the knee. Who would perpetrate such a crime and why?"

A sinister midget. You stole his bucket and mop. Now you're marked for the Night of the Iron Sausage.

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:11 AM (ldmQR)

16 Whoa! Back in a sec.
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Yes, TonyPete, we must all wear pants!

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:11 AM (Dc2NZ)

17 So I have been doing a little writing (I am so jealous of you Morons who have multiple books coming out; I haven't even finished my second), and a little reading.

A few months back, I recommended John Michell's Eccentric Lives and Peculiar Notions, a collection of essays on strange people and beliefs, such as Ignatius Donnelly (who was convinced he had found Atlantis), Cyris Teed (who believed the earth was hollow and we live inside), trepanners, Druids and so on.

I'm re-reading his Who Wrote Shakespeare?, where he examines whether "Shakspear," the Man from Stratford, wrote the plays, or whether it was Francis Bacon or the Earl of Oxford or someone else.

(PART I)

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:11 AM (2JVJo)

18 Big diff in wanting some pussy bad and wanting some bad pussy!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 21, 2021 09:12 AM (yrol0)

19 I had the best week of reading I've had for a while. Reading The Starless Sea and The Third Policeman in tandem has a sort of symmetry since both books involve a person stuck in an otherworldly type setting where they're trying to figure out how they fit in. The nameless narrator in the Flann O'Brien book is surrounded by a couple mick cops who my mental image is of Benny Hill dressed up in that stupid uniform getting ready to get kicked in the balls. Zachery Ezra Rawlings is more modern and kind of a hipster douche and is surrounded by attractive people but shares the dilemma of how they fit in with their setting and how do they get out, assuming they want to. Kind of funny how they dovetail together.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 09:12 AM (y7DUB)

20 Read latest Larry Correia(with John Brown) book "Gun Runner". Different from other his books, this is Si-Fi, space opera book, not fantasy. Still a lot of gun, fighting and fun.

Posted by: redmonkey at February 21, 2021 09:12 AM (RjfJc)

21 Hopefully will have more time to read next week, but not much done this week due to bunch of people at my house who did not have power and I kind of did. I did read the WaterBob Emergency Water Storage manual on how to use it - both WaterBob and manual useful. Yes I live in Texas and I might not ever want to see snow again.

Posted by: Charlotte at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (b2L/I)

22 Hmmm, "Harry Potter done right." Reminds me of the Man of Destiny series, my attempt to repair the damage of the Star Wars prequels.

It's weird that OM featured that this week because yesterday a friend reminded me how Man of Destiny (written just before the emergence of Trump) prefigured a lot of current political events. The Galactic Commonwealth starts the book generally peaceful and prosperous, but its political class is hidebound, arrogant and cruelly indifferent to less prosperous planets. When the workers' representatives raise objections, they get told to shut up and sit down. Matters escalate and an older back-bencher who everyone knows but no one likes manages to get power.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (llXky)

23 Nice Lieberry!

Those pants....Reverse Madras I believe. Hides the stains.

The Who Dis I have no idea.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (R/m4+)

24 I literally blew the dust off my Bible this week. Bad, bad Eris! Somebody quoted Timothy so I turned to that book.

Hey, am I the only one who sees NKJV and reads XKCD?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (Dc2NZ)

25 (continued by spam filter) No, Trump didn't inspire Maxim Darius (he was based on the late great
Jerry Roe, Michigan GOP chairman in the 70s), but Trump had a lot in
common with him. One of the themes of the first book is that *everyone*
in the Establishment agrees that Darius should never get power. And
yet he does.

The end result is a civil war where none needed to
happen. Interestingly, even the "good guys" in the ruling class are too
polite to see how bad things are and get caught up in the maelstrom.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (llXky)

26 I'm not familiar with Pola Negri.

* hangs head in shame *

Posted by: dantesed at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (88xKn)

27 Damn, some interesting pictures this Sunday. The lady with the portable human bookmobile is something. I bet she has to have a strong back to do that for a long time. It was probably outside of a library.

Posted by: Colin at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (RrEo1)

28 Michell's conclusion (though you're not really sure; he calls it 'just one story') is that William Shakspear was a jobbing playwright / actor who would take scripts penned by amateurs who, for one reason or another, couldn;t publish under their own names, revise and adapt them for the stage, putting them out under the name "Shakespeare."

It's an interesting light look at the "Authorship Controversy," if you're into that sort of thing:

https://tinyurl.com/25rdaul8

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (2JVJo)

29 I'm re-reading his Who Wrote Shakespeare?, where he examines whether "Shakspear," the Man from Stratford, wrote the plays, or whether it was Francis Bacon or the Earl of Oxford or someone else.

(PART I)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:11 AM (2JVJo)

It was a poor black slave from the sub-Saharan regions. Bill S had her chained in order to force her to produce masterpieces which he stole and fed her gruel.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (ONvIw)

30 I just started "Beer in America: The Early Years -- 1587-1840" by Gregg Smith. Found this book in on of those Wee Free Libraries.

"passengers on the increasingly frequent voyages from Europe had no trust for water. When compared with the palpability and longer shelf life of hopped beer, water would not be chosen by thirsty travelers, Even the strict Puritans, sailing on the Arabella to what is now Boston in 1630, took along over three times as much beer as water. On arrival. those settlers also hit the beach brewing."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (Dc2NZ)

31 Pants link no worky.
One of the best things about urban architecture is ornate fixtures and light poles with frosted globes on the lights. They have a lot of them in Paris, and even some in DC, e.g. on Memorial Bridge. They're very atmospheric.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:15 AM (v16oJ)

32 I read It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis. First published in 1935, this was Lewis' warning of the fragility of democracy and how easily Fascism could take hold in America. Of course with the rise of Mussolini and Hitler at the time the threat was from the right. Today the threat is from the left. Politicians always looking for more power, globalists, large international corporations, high-tech companies, and most media are joining forces to create a world-wide government run by and for the oligarchs. It Can't Happen Here is a prescient novel which is relevant today.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 21, 2021 09:16 AM (qb8uZ)

33 A lot of people focus on the heroes, and fixing things like making Anakin less of an annoying tool, but one of my themes was how fragile the political establishment can be if the people in charge of it don't take defending it seriously.

What happens when everyone in charge just blows through the guard rails because they figure they're entitled to do whatever they want? I made a point of having my Jedi Knights (the Ordo Militaris) be spectacularly incompetent at politics because they were obsessed with their own vision and doing things their own way. They symbolize how so many institutions have lost track of what they should be doing and pursue their own narrow agendas. No one's actually steering the ship any more.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:17 AM (llXky)

34 I like the picture of the little girl (Alice Liddel?) sharing a book with the giraffe. On behalf of those of us who are tall and need strong glasses, I sympathized with the animal.

Posted by: JTB at February 21, 2021 09:18 AM (7EjX1)

35 Still plugging away at "The Scarlatti Inheritance." That verb makes it seem as if I consider the book a slog, when that is definitely not the case. I have other interests in entertainment, and I cannot do two things at once.

I'm near the midpoint, and the plot twists -- including one that surprised me -- are coming thick and fast. My only complaint is how Ludlum describes a woman in her early 70s as practically decrepit. Not the ones I know.

Still, as a kid, I considered a house that was 60 years old to be ancient. Guess whose house was built in the late '50s?

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 09:18 AM (J9wig)

36 The original manuscripts of Francis Bacon are buried on Oak Island, don't you know?

Posted by: That Northernlurker guy, whoever he is at February 21, 2021 09:18 AM (lgiXo)

37 Hot Coffee...Gun Runner added to the queue

Posted by: qmark at February 21, 2021 09:19 AM (hg6m+)

38 Nice word atmospheric. In need is something atmospheric these days.

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:19 AM (S1hrL)

39 I know there are some MSU alumns here, and I get emails from my alma mater (and my wife's as well) and all they do is trumpet DIVERSITY. James Madison College (a residential college within MSU) used to brag about how tough it was to finish. Freshmen had a 50 percent wash-out rate. It was like "The Paper Chase." To make it to Senior Seminar was a milestone.

The latest email boasts that *everyone graduates*. Yay! Trophies for everyone!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:19 AM (llXky)

40 They are not sending us their best books on the biblioburro

Posted by: cool breeze at February 21, 2021 09:19 AM (UGKMd)

41 Rotograms:

overlay/layover

windup/upwind

Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 09:20 AM (OX9vb)

42 Democracy is indeed an exceedingly fragile form of government, inherently susceptible to several forms of self-destruction. A constitutional republic, on the other hand, which stands firm on and for its laws cannot be destroyed by anything except treason and treachery from within.

Hypothetically, anyway. Not that we'd know anything about that.

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:21 AM (ldmQR)

43 I came up with OVERPASS and PASSOVER. Also BACKTRACK and TRACKBACK. Let's see what you morons can do with this.

All I can think of is boathouse and houseboat. Does that work?

Posted by: dantesed at February 21, 2021 09:21 AM (88xKn)

44 I read It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis. First published in 1935,
this was Lewis' warning of the fragility of democracy and how easily
Fascism could take hold in America. Of course with the rise of Mussolini
and Hitler at the time the threat was from the right. Today the threat
is from the left.
Ironic, since Lewis was a big ol' lefty.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:21 AM (v16oJ)

45 I love the 'burro' mobile and books on the back photos. Reading should not be denied to the out back areas.

Posted by: JTB at February 21, 2021 09:22 AM (7EjX1)

46 nazism and fascism are not "right wing" ideologies. They only became "rightwing on june 22, 1941, when the national socialist took a go at the international socialists.

Perpetuating that myth does no favor to any anti-communist.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at February 21, 2021 09:22 AM (uxUoN)

47 39: Sad, I admit I used to think it was funny seeing the freshman (my roommate, etc) going into an auditorium for the "policy" exam with someone playing bugle calls

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:23 AM (ONvIw)

48 26 I'm not familiar with Pola Negri.

* hangs head in shame *
Posted by: dantesed at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (88xKn)

I'm not, either. But I really don't care much for old movies. Heresy, I know.

Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 09:23 AM (OX9vb)

49 Made it through Book Four of Thucydides and understand how VDH was taken by Brasidas and how he turned things around for the Spartans. Most of the military leaders are somewhat faceless and seem like GOPe type dumbasses, relying on the overall might of their respective sides to bludgeon any country into submission, at which Athens was much better. Brasidas was more crafty about getting Athens leaning places to change their minds and reversed the momentum toward the Spartans. He also wasn't above violating a temporary truce and was good at attacking places where it wasn't considered likely. He was also responsible for Thucydides being disgraced and exiled after losing to him; the Athenians were pretty much cocksuckers when it came to needing fall guys.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 09:24 AM (y7DUB)

50 They are not sending us their best books on the biblioburro

Posted by: cool breeze at February 21, 2021 09:19 AM (UGKMd)

What? You don't like Marxist Claptrap? En espanol?

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 09:24 AM (AwYPR)

51 39: Did they wait for Sherm to step down before putting diversity ahead of effort and standards?

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:24 AM (ONvIw)

52 Of course with the rise of Mussolini and Hitler at
the time the threat was from the right. Today the threat is from the
left.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 21, 2021 09:16 AM (qb8uZ)

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Benito and Adolf were both leftists. They are attributed to the right because it was politically useful to smear everyone not under Moscow's thumb as a hate-filled reactionary.

Note that "the right" in Europe at that time was monarchist and religious, not libertarian.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:25 AM (llXky)

53 instead of Left vs Right, specially in light of uniparty unmasking, I prefer to frame it as Tyranny vs Freedom

Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 09:26 AM (nUhF0)

54 46

Nazi literally stands for National Socialist. But Nazi is like totes right wing and stuff. Twitter verified it and everything.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (ASLmA)

55 Benito and Adolf were both leftists. They are attributed to the right
because it was politically useful to smear everyone not under Moscow's
thumb as a hate-filled reactionary.
I'm sure the distinction was important to anyone with a boot in their face. "Let's see, is this a right or a left boot?"
My earlier point was that if you're a lefty, you have no business complaining about a repressive government.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (v16oJ)

56 Housecat
Cathouse

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (ldmQR)

57 Who knew there were so many Alan Smithee types in Bill's world? The attempted destruction of Mr. Shakespeare has been a game by unserious academics for decades. His brilliance is inconceivable to the low and callow.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (qu5Zx)

58 I'm not familiar with Pola Negri.

* hangs head in shame *
Posted by: dantesed at February 21, 2021 09:13 AM (88xKn)

She was, as you might expect, Polish (born either 1894 or 1899), trained as a ballerina, came to Berlin in 1917 and for the next few years was at the very top of the German film industry. She came to Hollywood in the early 1920s, establishing in her public appearances the idea of a silent film diva (she also, according to writer Jeanne Basinger, started the fad for red-painted toenails).

For a lot of the 1920s, she was a very popular and successful actress, counting Chaplin and Valentino among her lovers. She made a few sound pictures, but her high-flown style and screen presence was an anomaly in the peppier, jazzier world of talking pictures. Her last movie was a cameo role in the 1964 Disney movie The Moon-Spinners, featuring Hayley Mills. There's a lovely documentary on her: Pola Negri: Life is a Dream in Cinema. Here's the trailer:

https://tinyurl.com/1xjdpd5j

https://tinyurl.com/3n2b5p4z

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (2JVJo)

59 He was also responsible for Thucydides being
disgraced and exiled after losing to him; the Athenians were pretty much
cocksuckers when it came to needing fall guys.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 09:24 AM (y7DUB)

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I wish we did more of that - I'm sick of people failing at everything and still moving effortlessly upwards because they are of the appropriate social class.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (llXky)

60 outback / backout

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 09:28 AM (2BZBZ)

61 Yep Vmom, I place a system on the Statism -- Freedom scale.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:28 AM (Dc2NZ)

62 Gun show
Shogun

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:28 AM (ldmQR)

63 I'm sure the distinction was important to anyone with a boot in their face. "Let's see, is this a right or a left boot?"
My earlier point was that if you're a lefty, you have no business complaining about a repressive government.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (v16oJ)
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The truth matters. By convincing people that "the right" harbors Nazis and Fascists, it is easier for them to say: "You shouldn't even be allowed to vote for those people. They are literally traitors and insurrectionists. Ban them!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:29 AM (llXky)

64 The truth matters. By convincing people that "the right" harbors Nazis
and Fascists, it is easier for them to say: "You shouldn't even be
allowed to vote for those people. They are literally traitors and
insurrectionists. Ban them!"
We don't have an argument.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:29 AM (v16oJ)

65 Milquetoast
GOP

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:30 AM (ldmQR)

66 Good mention upthread of Sinclair Lewis who is overshadowed these days by all things Orwell.
"It Can't Happen Here" is a must read because it IS happening here right now.

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:30 AM (S1hrL)

67 Something is poking me way, way in the back of my brain telling me that this is not the first time I've heard about a sword-and-sorcery/noir mashup, but I just can't recall. Oh well, it will probably come to be days from now.
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Made me think of Stephen R Donaldson. His writing is so 'noir' I just gave up, because no matter how popular, nobody needs that much negative.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 21, 2021 09:30 AM (MIKMs)

68 I wish we did more of that - I'm sick of people failing at everything and still moving effortlessly upwards because they are of the appropriate social class.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

That's one of the very first truths I took note of when I joined the workforce oh so many years ago.

A guy who never played any part of a project completed on time and under budget?

Meet your next project manager.

etc.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 09:30 AM (Rvt88)

69 uh huh
huh uh

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 09:31 AM (AwYPR)

70 How about switchback and backswitch?

Now I don't think you'll find backswitch in a dictionary, but anyone here whose parent made them go cut their own switch will know very well what I'm talking about!

Posted by: 496 at February 21, 2021 09:31 AM (U1eOr)

71 Learn something every day. Peckerwood was the term of endearment used on young engineers when we started in the oil fields of South Louisiana 40 or 50 years ago. I thought it meant dumbass which was the other greeting we heard a lot in those days. White trash might be an upgrade.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 21, 2021 09:31 AM (qu5Zx)

72 Pantshitter
biden

Posted by: A dude in MI at February 21, 2021 09:31 AM (/6GbT)

73 Oh, we're doing the Hitler Was Actually Right Wing thing again, I see. Well, here's the Nazi Party's 25 point set of demands. Once you strip out the racial bullshit you're left with confiscation of profits, nationalization of industry, abolition of 'unearned' income, expansion of welfare and State control of education.

https://alphahistory.com/nazigermany/
nazi-party-25-points-1920/

Posted by: Vanya, Hallucination at February 21, 2021 09:31 AM (gAFsE)

74 Nazi literally stands for National Socialist. But Nazi is like totes right wing and stuff. Twitter verified it and everything.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (ASLmA)

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Full name: NSDAP, National Socialist German Workers Party. Not known for their embrace of individual liberty and religious freedom.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:32 AM (llXky)

75 59

It is about to get so much worse. With all the equity bullshit announced by Biden along with the White is evil HR mantra in every big company.

Posted by: Barry H at February 21, 2021 09:32 AM (ASLmA)

76 My reading this week falls into two groups. First, there is reading about hands on hobby stuff: wood carving, tying flies, hand loading and such. Second, rereading. With all the shit going on in the news I'm seeking the comfort of familiar books. I dug out an old hardback copy of the last three books of the Lensman series and started the second book of the Liturgical Mystery set. Also, I'm rereading Master and Commander, the first of the Patrick O'Brian books. This time I'm reading for the writing more than the story. I'm spoiled with the well honed writing skills of Tolkien, CS Lewis, even Louis L'Amour. O'Brian reminds me of that same effective level.

Posted by: JTB at February 21, 2021 09:33 AM (7EjX1)

77 I'm an idiot. Posted this on the wrong thread:

Trying to decide if it's worth keeping my Kindle Unlimited subscription.
So many of the titles available are books I would not usually read,
although because they're free, I end up reading them anyway. Not too
much meaty stuff on there. On the other hand, I'm not much of a meaty
person.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 21, 2021 09:33 AM (45fpk)

78 That's one of the very first truths I took note of when I joined the workforce oh so many years ago.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 09:30 AM (Rvt8

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The US commanders at Pearl Harbor had their careers wrecked.

The ones who slept through 9/11 got promoted.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:34 AM (llXky)

79 The who Dis is Nurse R

Posted by: JT at February 21, 2021 09:35 AM (arJlL)

80 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 21, 2021 09:35 AM (arJlL)

81 Back to books. At the recommendation of someone here, I'm reading Richard Frank's "Tower of Skulls", a history of the Pacific war focused on the Chinese theater, and the first volume of a planned trilogy. At least that was the stated intent of the author, but he includes lots of lengthy digressions into Pearl Harbor, etc. I also find his writing style difficult.

Nonetheless, it's an interesting book about a much neglected theater, one which had profound impacts on the rest of the world. In particular, everyone realized that if China collapsed, Japan would be free to attack an already beleaguered Soviet Union. Had that happened, the USSR would likely have collapsed, with dire consequences for the European Theater.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:35 AM (v16oJ)

82 Those pants are fine. Love the material!

Posted by: Moochelle at February 21, 2021 09:35 AM (3OEOJ)

83 Bucksaw
Sawbuck

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:35 AM (ldmQR)

84 I don't think the pants guy owns a weedwhacker (if you catch my drift)

Posted by: JT at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (arJlL)

85 I do not believe the political spectrum is a straight line with right and left. Rather I think of it as a circle with Communism and Fascism next to each other. I made a poor choice of words in my review.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (qb8uZ)

86 What? You don't like Marxist Claptrap? En espanol?

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 09:24 AM (AwYPR)
Enlarging the photo, I think I spot Twilight, Catcher in the Rye and some titles by Howard Zinn, Al Gore and Ta-Nahesi Coates.

Posted by: cool breeze at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (UGKMd)

87 James Burnham "Suicide of the West" (1964) when you finish Orwell and Sinclair Lewis.

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (S1hrL)

88 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (Dc2NZ)

William Bostwick's The Brewer's Tale: A History of the World According to Beer starts in Egypt where using surplus grain produced a safe liquid to consume instead of trusting anything straight from a river. You had to achieve a certain more than subsistence state of civilization to accomplish that.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (y7DUB)

89 How about reversed and then recombined

Cathousehousecat

Posted by: weirdflunky at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (cknjq)

90 What I learned quickly in my first corporate job was doing nothing was the best way forward. If you fucked up you stood out as a fuckup. If you did a really good job others would be envious and try to fuck you up. But if you were invisible life was good. And promotions went to the invisible people since they were the least risky. Managers want to keep the hard workers where they are, working hard, not moving up the ladder.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:37 AM (ASLmA)

91 grammie, isbit a KU free trial or paid?

if its free, cancel it before it runs out then sign up for another free trial later

if its paid, cancel it if you dont use it, or you couod read some indy conservative writers on it to throw them some $
Sarah Hoyt has almost all her stuff on KU, for example

Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 09:37 AM (nUhF0)

92 I do not believe the political spectrum is a straight line with right
and left. Rather I think of it as a circle with Communism and Fascism
next to each other.
Agree.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:37 AM (v16oJ)

93 89

If the cat could talk
what tales he'd tell

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:38 AM (ldmQR)

94 grammie, isbit a KU free trial or paid?

I had a free trial for a year. Now it's something like ten bucks a month.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 21, 2021 09:38 AM (45fpk)

95 If you fucked up you stood out as a fuckup. If you did a really good job others would be envious and try to fuck you up. But if you were invisible life was good.
Posted by: Joe XiDen

Ah, the boot camp gambit -

Don't be first and don't be last. Stay lost within the pack.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 09:39 AM (Rvt88)

96 Meawhile, back to Livy's History of Rome. There are gaps in the surviving books, so things are jumping forward a bit. I'm up to 326 BC.

The Latins just tried to overthrow Rome, and got curb-stomped for their trouble. However, Rome's leaders realize that at some point it's better to co-opt people than keep beating them up, so the citizenship is extended to select towns and new tribes are enrolled.

With their backyard back in order, Rome is now picking fights in southern Italy, sparring with the Samnites and Magna Graecia. Their armies are getting larger and it's no longer possible to fight a war in a single planting season. For the first time, former consuls ("proconsuls") are having their commands extended. The army is getting paid out of public funds because they have to fight year-round.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (llXky)

97 I've asked for help in the past on choosing books as gifts for young boys and received wonderful suggestions. This time I think I've got it right on my own. Our nephew is turn 11 in a few months and we are getting him "The Dangerous Book For Boys". Looking at the table of contents and reading reviews it looks like a fun item. One indication is so many of the reviews from older guys mention they got it for their grandsons or wish it had been around when they were kids.

Posted by: JTB at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (7EjX1)

98 Milquetoast
GOP
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Casper Milquetoast: white and cowardly. Interesting that 'yellow' used to be the epithet for a coward and 'white' has taken over.

Posted by: mustbequantum at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (MIKMs)

99 Manbun
Dumbass

Posted by: Citizen sans nation at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (ldmQR)

100 I had a free trial for a year. Now it's something like ten bucks a month.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 21, 2021 09:38 AM (45fpk)

If you're not using it much just cancel imo
easy to sign up again if you want

Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (nUhF0)

101 The Epoch Times had a good article by Mitnick(?) on libraries increasingly not stocking the great works of literature. He understood that a library has a finite amount of space and they need to make room for the popular literature of the day, but a library should also be a repository for the foundational works of a culture. The classics matter.

This reminds me of the book "The Bellwether". One of the characters was a librarian who checked out books she thought needed to be kept in circulation, because otherwise a book that wasn't shown to have reader activity would be removed from the shelf to the "dead" pile.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (Dc2NZ)

102 How about Treasure Island for boys?

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:41 AM (S1hrL)

103 I wish we did more of that - I'm sick of people failing at everything and still moving effortlessly upwards because they are of the appropriate social class.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:27 AM (llXky)

I was thinking that as I was writing it. To Thucydides credit he writes about his plight very matter of factly, which is surely what he considered his authorial role dictated.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 09:43 AM (y7DUB)

104 You had to achieve a certain more than subsistence state of civilization to accomplish that.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (y7DUB)
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Yes! He makes the point that civilization followed brewing, not the other way around.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:43 AM (Dc2NZ)

105 If you're not using it much just cancel imo

easy to sign up again if you want

Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (nUhF0)

That's true. And maybe if I left it long enough, they might offer it to me free again!

Posted by: grammie winger at February 21, 2021 09:43 AM (45fpk)

106 Casper Milquetoast: white and cowardly. Interesting that 'yellow' used to be the epithet for a coward and 'white' has taken over.

"Caspar Milquetoast" (also known as "The Timid Soul") was the creation of the cartoonist H.T. Webster, who featured the poor mild soul in a number of cartoons, such as this:

https://tinyurl.com/fzgxedcp

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:43 AM (2JVJo)

107 Benito and Adolf were both leftists. They are attributed to the right because it was politically useful to smear everyone not under Moscow's thumb as a hate-filled reactionary.

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Similarly, I saw on the MSM this morning the usual suspects saying that the Texas cold snap proves that we need more green energy. All evidence proves the foregone conclusion. It's so much simpler than actual thought.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 09:44 AM (VVEnO)

108 My local library built an expansion and then proceeded to empty the bookshelves. They have more DVD's than books now. When I inquired, I was told "books get outdated and we remove them." I didn't bother asking what makes a book "outdated."

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:44 AM (S1hrL)

109 I do not believe the political spectrum is a
straight line with right and left. Rather I think of it as a circle with
Communism and Fascism next to each other. I made a poor choice of words
in my review.

Posted by: Zoltan at February 21, 2021 09:36 AM (qb8uZ)

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The problem with that construct is that you have to find something "right-wing" about Fascism or Naziism.

In classical European usage, the right was monarchist and religious (generally Catholic). Nazis and Fascists hated both. The only point of intersection was nationalism, but that's also a feature of the left - do you go with a global socialist revolution or focus on one nation at a time? It's the old Trotsky vs Stalin argument about tactics, not ideology.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:45 AM (llXky)

110 This time I think I've got it right on my own. Our nephew is turn 11 in a few months and we are getting him "The Dangerous Book For Boys".
Posted by: JTB

Good choice. Each of my boys was gifted his own copy.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 09:45 AM (Rvt88)

111 At my local library there is all sorts of woke stuff available. Next time Im there I will see if any classics are still around.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:46 AM (ASLmA)

112 And old colleague once told me "One 'ah shit' wipes out a hundred 'atta-boys.'"

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 09:47 AM (2BZBZ)

113 The Epoch Times had a good article by Mitnick(?) on libraries
increasingly not stocking the great works of literature. He understood
that a library has a finite amount of space and they need to make room
for the popular literature of the day, but a library should also be a
repository for the foundational works of a culture. The classics
matter.
And the librarians will wonder why winos are the only people who frequent the libraries. Nonetheless, they'll keep their jobs.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:47 AM (v16oJ)

114 Kickback / backkick?

This mindstretcher is hard.

More cereal.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 09:47 AM (J9wig)

115 Global warming causes climate change which causes really cold air in Texas which breaks wind mills. The solution is more windmills to stop the global warming which will cause less climate change which will cause less cold in Texas.

See how easy that is?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:48 AM (ASLmA)

116 'A sinister midget. You stole his bucket and mop. Now you're marked for the Night of the Iron Sausage.
Posted by: Citizen sans nation'

Dat boy be ready fo de torchum.

Posted by: Thingfish at February 21, 2021 09:48 AM (3OEOJ)

117 The Epoch Times had a good article by Mitnick(?) on
libraries increasingly not stocking the great works of literature. He
understood that a library has a finite amount of space and they need to
make room for the popular literature of the day, but a library should
also be a repository for the foundational works of a culture. The
classics matter.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (Dc2NZ)

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East Lansing's library had a really nice collection of Waugh only a couple of years ago. I haven't stopped in since, but they also carried Ford Madox Ford. Their military history collection was terrible.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:49 AM (llXky)

118 At my local library there is all sorts of woke stuff available. Next time I'm there I will see if any classics are still around.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:46 AM (ASLmA)

I don't remember ever seeing a Bible in the library, although it is by far the best-selling book of all time. Not saying it isn't there. I've just never had cause to seek it out. We probably have 20 copies at home.

Posted by: grammie winger at February 21, 2021 09:49 AM (45fpk)

119 downbeat
beatdown

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 09:50 AM (Rvt88)

120 When I inquired, I was told "books get outdated and we remove them." I didn't bother asking what makes a book "outdated."
Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:44 AM (S1hrL)

They cull the shelves of books that dont get borrowed

Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 09:50 AM (nUhF0)

121 And the librarians will wonder why winos are the only people who frequent the libraries. Nonetheless, they'll keep their jobs.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:47 AM (v16oJ)

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Our library is funded by a property tax levy. When COVID closed it, they kept collecting the tax...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:50 AM (llXky)

122 108 My local library built an expansion and then proceeded to empty the bookshelves. They have more DVD's than books now. When I inquired, I was told "books get outdated and we remove them." I didn't bother asking what makes a book "outdated."
Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:44 AM (S1hrL)

Ours is meeting rooms and computer stations. The children's section probably has the most books, I suspect nearly all reference material in online now. They circulate copies of bestsellers and a have a few other things (cook books, art, popular things) everything else comes through the main library. I'd say it's geared up for study groups for unsupervised teens.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:50 AM (ONvIw)

123 I'm sick of people failing at everything and still moving effortlessly upwards because they are of the appropriate social class.

Case in point: the highest paid US government employee is Anthony Fauci.

Posted by: cool breeze at February 21, 2021 09:50 AM (UGKMd)

124 The problem with that construct is that you have to find something "right-wing" about Fascism or Naziism.
The usual dividing line is that while the right dictated economic policy, they didn't own the means of production. There was still private property. The left did own the MOP, and private property was verboten.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:51 AM (v16oJ)

125 Rotograms are fun, but ambigrams are where it's at.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. Raimondo, probably just your mom at February 21, 2021 09:51 AM (wCgji)

126 And old colleague once told me "One 'ah shit' wipes out a hundred 'atta-boys.'"

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 09:47 AM (2BZBZ)

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Not today. If you're of the right class, your fails are never your fault. This can't go on forever and it won't end well.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:52 AM (llXky)

127 I do not believe the political spectrum is a straight line with right and left. Rather I think of it as a circle with Communism and Fascism next to each other.

Sorry, not to pick a fight especially because I'm leaving the house in a few minutes so I won't be around to hold up my end...

But this sounds to me like the kind of thing people say when they don't want their friends to think that they're "that kind" of conservative. Yes, Fascism and Communism are next to each other because they're both forms of socialism (i.e. leftists), just National Socialism and International Socialism respectively. The circle metaphor is a sop to the left who want to disclaim Fascism. Don't let them.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 21, 2021 09:52 AM (qc+VF)

128 It's up to Texans to fight back on the GND now. They've experienced it firsthand and should have the will the rest of us lack, for now. Complacency = sleeping in a tent in your living room.

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:53 AM (S1hrL)

129 I predict that in 20 years, libraries will be VR nodes, because VR is a constitutional right. The education (read indoctrination) of the masses must continue.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:53 AM (v16oJ)

130 I bought Gun Runner by Larry Correia and John Brown as an "F you" to the Baen woke hit piece. Its a really good sci fi action adventure piece. I am still waiting to get to a repeaedtly foreshadowed alien Kaiju vs Mech and Mech vs Mech fights. If you like action sci fi its a good read.
If you like fantasy or sci fi at all I'd highly recommend going there and buying direct from Barn, because to he'll with woke-fascists.
Oh, and I hadn't realized this until I bought Gun Runner but they have an amazingly deep library if free books.

Posted by: aivanther at February 21, 2021 09:53 AM (6caim)

131 121

Speaking of levies, my county has a ballot measure this spring to increase property taxes for.... wait for it ..... schools!! Even though kids are only in school 2 or 3 days a week cuz da Rona.

And like usual it will pass with 65% of the vote. We have one of these every few years and it is always the same story. if you vote no, you hate children and education and science and shit.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:54 AM (ASLmA)

132 One time, I picked up a book from the book donkey, and the cover was torn. It was horrible!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 21, 2021 09:54 AM (03n3v)

133 Reading The Best of Richard Matheson. A collection of his some of his short stories. A good read for Matheson fans.

Posted by: mot at February 21, 2021 09:54 AM (jad3h)

134 Not today. If you're of the right class, your fails are never your fault. This can't go on forever and it won't end well.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:52 AM (llXky)

The right class takes in more than one population. You can still be white if you spout the right shit and come from the right schools (they won't be penalizing the ivies). There is no coincidence in the fact that the one person charged in the Russia hoax was a Spartan and not a Harvard, Yale or Princeton alum.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:54 AM (ONvIw)

135 Our study does not find an increase in county-level COVID-19 cases per 100,000 residents due to NFL and NCAA football games held with limited in-person attendance.

So football does not increase Wuhan Flu!

Posted by: rhennigantx at February 21, 2021 09:54 AM (yrol0)

136 Even the strict Puritans, sailing on the Arabella to what is now Boston in 1630, took along over three times as much beer as water. On arrival. those settlers also hit the beach brewing."
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:14

It's a common myth that the Puritans were teetotalers or had some kind of moral problem with drinking. What they frowned on was drunkenness. The temperance movement was spearheaded primarily by Baptists.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 09:55 AM (Qc+rX)

137 Who gets to frequent libraries these days?

Ours are closed. Checkout is online only.

On one hand, I've been getting a lot more items -- CDs and DVDs as well as books. On the other hand, I miss browsing, which is fun.

Come the next library election, I'm going to be in a bind.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 09:56 AM (J9wig)

138 All I can think of is boathouse and houseboat. Does that work?
Posted by: dantesed at February 21, 2021 09:21 AM (88xKn)

Yes. Very good.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 09:57 AM (Qc+rX)

139 Read latest Larry Correia(with John Brown) book "Gun Runner". Different from other his books, this is Si-Fi, space opera book, not fantasy. Still a lot of gun, fighting and fun.
Posted by: redmonkey
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I more than halfway through the book. Jackson has just been reunited with his crew mates on the ship.
Fun so far.

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at February 21, 2021 09:57 AM (UUBmN)

140 The usual dividing line is that while the right
dictated economic policy, they didn't own the means of production. There
was still private property. The left did own the MOP, and private
property was verboten.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:51 AM (v16oJ)

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Yes, and it's a distinction without a difference. The government controls the means of production in both systems, it's just how they administer that control. A distinction without a difference.

The point of that "line" was to allow the left to smear conservative parties with the taint of Nazism and Fascism.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:57 AM (llXky)

141 41 Rotograms:

overlay/layover

windup/upwind

Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 09:20 AM (OX9vb)

Nice. 'OVER' gets used a lot in rotograms:

HANGOVER
OVERHANG

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 09:58 AM (Qc+rX)

142 Schools want more money to put in new HVAC systems for the 'Rona even tho kids don't get it and herd immunity goes into effect late this spring.

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 09:58 AM (S1hrL)

143 Also thanks to whichever moron suggested the sci-fi book "Wasp." It's fantastic.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. Raimondo, probably just your mom at February 21, 2021 09:58 AM (wCgji)

144 The usual dividing line is that while the right dictated economic
policy, they didn't own the means of production. There was still private
property. The left did own the MOP, and private property was verboten.
There are certainly those who argue that the Nazis had de facto control of the MOP, and there is a large element of truth to that position.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 09:58 AM (v16oJ)

145 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 09:59 AM (Zz0t1)

146 OK, folks, I think I'm going to sign off for the day. Thanks for the picture, OM.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:59 AM (2JVJo)

147 usually there is a way you can suggest to your library a book to buy
or you can do an interlibrary loan - that costs the library money so sometimes they'll just buy their own copy if its in print

Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (nUhF0)

148 I wish we did more of that - I'm sick of people failing at everything and still moving effortlessly upwards because they are of the appropriate social class.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

***

I said it on the Chris Wallace post a day or so ago, but no amount of hard work, intelligence, and effort can ever replace "proper" genealogy.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. Raimondo, probably just your mom at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (wCgji)

149 As a young man Miguel learned that you don't have to go to the library in order to burro a book.

Posted by: Muldoon at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (m45I2)

150 Print is dead.

Posted by: Egon Spengler at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)

151 Finally I'm to the point in Nabokov's biography where it's talking about the difficulties of getting Lolita published, which is hard to imagine now except cancel culture absolutely contains a blue nose component not unrelated to sheer censorship. Obviously it was shocking at the time but it obviously wasn't porn, which Volodya detested, and even Edmund Wilson was kind of creeped out by it. So it was eventually published by a foreign publisher that also published porn (New Directions iirc; I'm away from the book now) who ended up screwing Nabokov, at least temporarily out of his copyright about which Wilson warned him.

Anyway I'm to the point where Pnin is written but I'm waiting until I'm done more of the above noted fiction before starting that.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (y7DUB)

152 The point of that "line" was to allow the left to smear conservative parties with the taint of Nazism and Fascism.

Again, I don't disagree that that was a prime goal. I think it's arguable that there still was a difference. Krupp was still a private company.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (v16oJ)

153 Yesterday I experienced an entire new level of insanity Rona wise. I needed my ski boots adjusted and went to a ski shop that is really good at that. It is 40 miles from home but the owner is an old school guy who is a wizard with boot fitting.

Anyway I get there and there is a sign at the door saying you have to text this number and be put on a list. And when it is your turn you will be texted back. They only allow 5 customers in at a time. And this is the best part you need double masks to enter.

I assume this is not the old man setting policy but his kids who now run the place. But holy shit the insanity continues. But my boots feels beautiful now with the new insoles and adjustments.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 10:01 AM (ASLmA)

154 I looked up "Wasp" on Amazon and among those listed was "City Boy: a Gay Hockey Romance" by A.E. Wasp

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

155 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:40 AM (llXky)

Didn't they build their defense walls around Rome during this time?

Posted by: dantesed at February 21, 2021 10:02 AM (88xKn)

156 I just completed the Salvation Series by Peter F. Hamilton. Very technologically literate space opera, some decent characters, good villains. As pure sci-fi escapism, I'd like to give it 5 stars. But I can't. Why?

All together now, to the tune of the Spam song:

TRANS! TRANS TRANS TRANS TRANS TRANS! TRANS TRANS TRANS

Hey, want to get a book published? Are you an old white guy? Better put in a lot of TRANS or GTFO.

Posted by: motionview at February 21, 2021 10:02 AM (aYhx4)

157 I collect spores, molds and fungus.

Posted by: Egon Spengler at February 21, 2021 10:02 AM (Zz0t1)

158 I collect spores, molds and fungus.

Posted by: Egon Spengler
This made me laugh.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:03 AM (v16oJ)

159 I looked up "Wasp" on Amazon and among those listed was "City Boy: a Gay Hockey Romance" by A.E. Wasp

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

***

hahaha

Still one of my all-time favorite Horde moments was when the cookbook was released and under Amazon's "customers also considered" column was a lockpicking kit, a sex toy, and a book about some extremely obscure ancient naval battle.

Posted by: Lysenko's Wonder Kulaks - Call your parents. Raimondo, probably just your mom at February 21, 2021 10:03 AM (wCgji)

160 147 usually there is a way you can suggest to your library a book to buy
or you can do an interlibrary loan - that costs the library money so sometimes they'll just buy their own copy if its in print
Posted by: vmom confused about choosing sides at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (nUhF0)

In the rural library system, interlibrary loan is common. I put a several books on hold every month ( I could sign up for browsing hours, but it's easier for me to browse the website for recommendations I see here).

They almost always come from a library many counties away. It might cost more, but it's certainly getting books circulated.

Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 10:04 AM (OX9vb)

161 most libraries are circulating libraries, not archival libraries

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 21, 2021 10:04 AM (nUhF0)

162 Something is poking me way, way in the back of my brain telling me that this is not the first time I've heard about a sword-and-sorcery/noir mashup, but I just can't recall. Oh well, it will probably come to be days from now.

Roger Zelazny's Madwand ...

Posted by: Vikings Waiting for Breakfast ... at February 21, 2021 10:04 AM (LPnfS)

163 Still one of my all-time favorite Horde moments was when the cookbook
was released and under Amazon's "customers also considered" column was a
lockpicking kit, a sex toy, and a book about some extremely obscure
ancient naval battle.
So.....Wednesday afternoon at the HQ.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:04 AM (v16oJ)

164 I haven't been in our library in many years. I am probably the only adult in the world to lose her library card. I am bit of a procrastinator and never got books back on time!

As far as reading I am reading "The War on Cash". Pretty scary so far.

Posted by: Molly k. at February 21, 2021 10:04 AM (z3FB+)

165 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:43 AM (2JVJo)

Lileks has a whole section of Milquetoast cartoons.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 21, 2021 10:05 AM (7bRMQ)

166 Again, I don't disagree that that was a prime goal. I
think it's arguable that there still was a difference. Krupp was still a
private company.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:00 AM (v16oJ)

---
Krupp was private in the sense that the Soviet arsenals were private - they both made what the government said to make. The guys in charge got better rations and nicer houses.

It's like MiG vs Sukhoi vs Tupolev. Competing concerns within the Soviet defense establishment.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:06 AM (llXky)

167 102 ... "How about Treasure Island for boys?"

We sent a hardback copy of Treasure Island with the NC Wyeth illustrations to a great nephew for his sixth birthday, to be read with his parents. A big hit. On the next phone call he was jumping up and down yelling "Pitates! Pirates!" It was one of the joys of my childhood.

We're still laughing about this.

Posted by: JTB at February 21, 2021 10:06 AM (7EjX1)

168 Hitler started a Govt run car company. He purged bad think from the public. He was big on public infrastructure. He was big on increasing welfare payments to the people. And of course he was a rabid anti-Semite.

Tell me how that differs at all from the Democrat party of 2008 and on.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 10:06 AM (ASLmA)

169 Ooh! Word cycles! My favorite is Cock a doodle doo/ Any cock'll do

Posted by: Shep Smith at February 21, 2021 10:06 AM (7bRMQ)

170 Double masks just as the covid numbers start dropping. Baaaaah. Baaaah.

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 10:06 AM (S1hrL)

171 most libraries are circulating libraries, not archival libraries
Libraries are publically funded because a literate population is assumed to be good thing. It's a separate question whether ANY reading is a good thing. If you think so, then stocking libraries with garbage books that people still want to read makes sense. The problem arises when librarians assume the role of political commissars and purge material with which they disagree.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:07 AM (v16oJ)

172 In Anthony Burgess's 1985 gangs of youths broke into shuttered libraries to get access to books covering important things as a contrast to the crap the educrat industry upchucked along with fake infotainment.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:08 AM (y7DUB)

173 Damn, some interesting pictures this Sunday. The
lady with the portable human bookmobile is something. I bet she has to
have a strong back to do that for a long time. It was probably outside
of a library.

Posted by: Colin at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (RrEo1)

Huge boobs on the other side kept her balanced....

Posted by: Shep Smith at February 21, 2021 10:08 AM (7bRMQ)

174 Didn't they build their defense walls around Rome during this time?

Posted by: dantesed at February 21, 2021 10:02 AM (88xKn)

---
The original walls were built under the kings, and after the Gauls sacked the place, they did a rebuild project as the city recovered. The next revamp won't be until Aurelian in the Third Century AD.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:08 AM (llXky)

175 [iTell me how that differs at all from the Democrat party of 2008 and on.
Hitler favored the toothbrush mustache, while lefties have beards and man buns.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:09 AM (v16oJ)

176 I like the "backward phrases" game.

My son and I have a game where we list adjectives that have become nouns. "Remote" for remote control, "pickle" for pickled cucumber, "uniform" for uniform suit.

Surprisingly, there are a million of them

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:09 AM (AwPyG)

177 btw the other day Sarah Hoyt revealed that she once published Austen fanfic under the name Alyx Silver
(like what if Darcy fell for Lydia Bennet)

they are on KU
Seem fun, gonna check them out

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 21, 2021 10:10 AM (nUhF0)

178 Molly k., I don't know if libraries even charge late fees anymore. Mine doesn't. They just keep autorenewing until I bring it back.

If someone else has it on hold and they need my copy, they'll notify me and call it in, but that hasn't happened to me so far.

I also have to have the library card to use libby, which is a library-based audio book service.

Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 10:10 AM (OX9vb)

179
Tell me how that differs at all from the Democrat party of 2008 and on.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 10:06 AM (ASLmA)

It doesn't, but you're a homophobic, racist bigot for pointing it out.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:10 AM (Zz0t1)

180
I also have to have the library card to use libby, which is a library-based audio book service.
Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 10:10 AM (OX9vb)

April--I get almost all my books online at Overdrive. It's the free, consolidated online library system in Ohio.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 10:11 AM (TdMsT)

181 I misplaced my travel guide to DC two years ago and library wanted $20 replacement. I wonder if I can get them to waive that now?

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 10:11 AM (S1hrL)

182 . . . well, there are limits. Even for the Swedish.

This is going to come as news to many of The Horde.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 21, 2021 10:12 AM (DMUuz)

183 Most libraries I know purge their books based on circulation. If a book hasn't circulated in 6 months, out it goes.

You have to admit, that's a fair system

If you request a book (even a self-published book) they will get it. A tip for our self-published authors--have people make requests.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:12 AM (AwPyG)

184 Good Morning all.
I'm here.

Was up til almost 2 am to finish the second book in Robin Hobbs Farseer Trilogy, Royal Assassin. Somewhere about the middle of the book, started texting my son(who had recommended the book) about how much I hated the villain. Then about 80% in, asked if the hero wins out in the end and his answer was enigmatic. He said there's a third book. The hero does get beat up a lot.
At some point, I realized how terrific a writer she is because I was totally caught up in the characters lives. Hobb's had made them real to me. On finishing immediately ordered the third book.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:13 AM (sd8p8)

185 Hitler was also big on breeding. German wimmens were given awards for shooting out as many pups as they could.

Order of the Golden Motherhood or some such. Plus they set up stud farms for the SS to spread their seed to as many wimmen as they could.

For a democrat, this is as right wing as you can get.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 10:13 AM (R/m4+)

186 I am a massive user of our interlibrary lending system, MOBIUS. Mostly for comics TCs, DVDs, and CDs -- but I have been known to order a novel or two. Usually something recommended on this thread.

I don't get things returned on time, but they've yet to cut me off.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 10:13 AM (J9wig)

187 Krupp was private in the sense that the Soviet arsenals were private -
they both made what the government said to make. The guys in charge got
better rations and nicer houses.
During the war, of course they did as they were told, as did American industry. It's total mobilization. However, prior to that, Krupp was a private company. The Nazis didn't nationalize them.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:14 AM (v16oJ)

188
At some point, I realized how terrific a writer she is because I was totally caught up in the characters lives. Hobb's had made them real to me. On finishing immediately ordered the third book.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:13 AM (sd8p

There is no better recommendation for a book than not being able to put it down!

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 10:14 AM (TdMsT)

189 @177

I may have mentioned that the 50 Shades of Grey series started out as Twilight fan fic by an English lady.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:14 AM (AwPyG)

190 Breakfast and Fastbreak...?
Not really.

It's just that I'm thinking of bacon, eggs, toast, and covefe with cream...

Posted by: Flyover at February 21, 2021 10:14 AM (Rbu5d)

191 *sings*

When the Moon is in the 7th House
And Jupiter looks like a peace
Then i'll dress like a hippie
And read books on the beach

Posted by: Zombie Pola Negri at February 21, 2021 10:15 AM (dWwl8)

192 April--I get almost all my books online at Overdrive. It's the free, consolidated online library system in Ohio.
Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 10:11 AM (TdMsT)

I use that one, too!

Posted by: April at February 21, 2021 10:16 AM (OX9vb)

193 ugh.

peace = peach

Bastard autocorrect harassing the dead!

Posted by: Zombie Pola Negri at February 21, 2021 10:16 AM (dWwl8)

194 *thinking about picture above*

Hey, does this library make my ass look big?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 21, 2021 10:16 AM (PiwSw)

195 " ...
Benito and Adolf were both leftists. They are attributed to the right because it was politically useful to smear everyone not under Moscow's thumb as a hate-filled reactionary.
Note that "the right" in Europe at that time was monarchist and religious, not libertarian.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:25 AM (llXky) "

It was a Soviet thing to describe anyone, even a socialist who wasn't a pure Marxist-Leninist, as a "rightist".

yr 2nd point is valid, too, for the contemporary in-context usage by non Communists.

really says a lot about how deeply allegiance to Communist thinking had already penetrated society / culture.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 21, 2021 10:17 AM (AKJpt)

196 *sings*

When the Moon is in the 7th House
And Jupiter looks like a peace
Then i'll dress like a hippie
And read books on the beach
Posted by: Zombie Pola Negri at February 21, 2021 10:15 AM (dWwl

There is.
A House.
In New Orleans.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:17 AM (Zz0t1)

197 If you request a book (even a self-published book) they will get it. A tip for our self-published authors--have people make requests.
---

I'll make a request for "City Boy: a Gay Hockey Romance" and "Wet Hot Allosaurus Summer". Heck, maybe all the Chuck Tingle Tingleverse.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

198 Checking out. Happy Reading all!

Posted by: Ziba at February 21, 2021 10:18 AM (S1hrL)

199 There is ... A House ... In New Orleans.

hee hee hee

Posted by: Rock You Like a Hurricane Katrina ... at February 21, 2021 10:18 AM (LPnfS)

200 Nice. 'OVER' gets used a lot in rotograms:

******

Similarly "OUT"

outtake
takeout

outline
lineout

Posted by: Muldoon at February 21, 2021 10:19 AM (m45I2)

201 Cincy had a beautiful library. Cast iron stacks...hmmmmm.

Reminds me of the old library in my hometown (hey! Townhome, hometown!) the certain "creak" of the floors, the scent of the old books, the sound of the "library hush"...yeah, they tore down that one, put an ugly building in its place. Haha, THAT one got torn down, too, and now they have a library that looks more like an ugly modern grade school than library.

Posted by: Flyover at February 21, 2021 10:19 AM (Rbu5d)

202 I purchased a buttload of books from Hamilton for a really good price. One of them was The Mapmaker's World, but Marjo Nurminnen. It's a history of European maps and how their conception of the world changed during the age of exploration. It's really a coffee table book, since it's lots of large, pretty pictures of maps, with some forgettable text. Still, it was quite fun to spend a few nights poring over them. Recommended.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:19 AM (v16oJ)

203 What WAS that house in New Orleans? Drug den, brothel, or both?

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 10:19 AM (J9wig)

204 rotograms:

trackside (betting close to the horsies), sidetrack (what the HQ frequently does to me)

workout (lifting heavy things), outwork (the defenses in front of the castle wall)

Posted by: mikeski at February 21, 2021 10:20 AM (P1f+c)

205 What WAS that house in New Orleans? Drug den, brothel, or both?

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 10:19 AM (J9wig)

It's where Cat People hung out.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 21, 2021 10:21 AM (7bRMQ)

206 124 The usual dividing line is that while the right dictated economic policy, they didn't own the means of production.

Just like how the DNC / Deep State doesn't technically "own" Google, Amazon, FaceBook, Twitter, or Bank of America,, but the end result is exactly the same as if they did.

Posted by: Half Dozen at February 21, 2021 10:21 AM (8OHMQ)

207 203 What WAS that house in New Orleans? Drug den, brothel, or both?
Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 10:19 AM (J9wig)

Private residence.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at February 21, 2021 10:21 AM (PiwSw)

208 16...Yes, TonyPete, we must all wear pants!

*shifty eyes*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 09:11 AM (Dc2NZ)

I'm usually at church during the book thread, but priest is celebrating at a mission parish today, so we're home. Soooo...do pj bottoms count as pants?

Posted by: Flyover at February 21, 2021 10:21 AM (Rbu5d)

209 @200

Muldoon will give us a million, due to the brain-organization thing.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:21 AM (AwPyG)

210 Pence declined CPAC invite.

Posted by: Hmmm at February 21, 2021 10:22 AM (h7GHl)

211 Pence declined CPAC invite.
Posted by: Hmmm at February 21, 2021 10:22 AM (h7GHl)

Because Trump will be there and he doesn't want to face the man who's back he stabbed, soullessly.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)

212 I'm usually at church during the book thread, but priest is celebrating at a mission parish today, so we're home. Soooo...do pj bottoms count as pants?
Posted by: Flyover at February 21, 2021 10:21 AM (Rbu5d)
--

A strong Probably. If you work IT, definitely.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:23 AM (Dc2NZ)

213 Just like how the DNC / Deep State doesn't technically "own" Google,
Amazon, FaceBook, Twitter, or Bank of America,, but the end result is
exactly the same as if they did.
That may be true, but the fortunes of Bezos et al. are held privately. The government doesn't run Amazon. If it did, they'd be using the pony express to deliver packages.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:23 AM (v16oJ)

214 OrangeEnt --

The 1980s movie was bland, but I love that song. So spooky.

Some day I'll watch the original.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 10:23 AM (J9wig)

215 Pence declined CPAC invite.

Posted by: Hmmm at February 21, 2021 10:22 AM (h7GHl)

Might as well, he's done.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 21, 2021 10:23 AM (7bRMQ)

216 192 April--I get almost all my books online at Overdrive.

OVERDRIVE

DRIVE OVER

Posted by: Half Dozen at February 21, 2021 10:24 AM (8OHMQ)

217 Because Trump will be there and he doesn't want to face the man who's back he stabbed, soullessly.
It isn't that, it's that he doesn't want to be booed and jeered by the crowd.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:24 AM (v16oJ)

218 Cathouse housecat

Posted by: Northernlurker, surgite at February 21, 2021 10:24 AM (lgiXo)

219 I dunno. It seems a little too facile to state that Fascists and Nazis were actually on the left - what was the Spanish Civil War about then?

It's more accurate to say you're talking about 2 different forms of authoritarianism, and to avoid the trap I think American conservatives often fall into - equating the European Right with the American one. I've just read a lot about the battles between Left and Right during the French Third Republic and the right was filled with some pretty unsavory characters, especially nasty anti-Semites who later were more than happy to help the Nazis round up Jews. Both sides were at each other's throats and had very real differences. What they had in common was a contempt for democracy and the Republic. They both favored strong state power and bringing the "enemies of France" to heel - they just differed on who was to rule and who was to be punished. The Right wanted the return of the monarchy and targeted Jews and free masons and radicals. The Left targeted the Church and traditionalists. Neither side thought very much of capitalism - the Left for obvious reasons, the Right because they thought capitalism destroyed traditional France.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 10:24 AM (HabA/)

220 I'm usually at church during the book thread, but priest is celebrating at a mission parish today, so we're home. Soooo...do pj bottoms count as pants?
Posted by: Flyover

They'd better or I'll need to excuse myself again.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 10:24 AM (Rvt88)

221 Being a conspiracy theorist, I wonder if CPAC was going to extol the wonderful virtues of Pence, and Trump--who surprisingly accepted an invitation--knew this, and threw a spoke in the wheel.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (AwPyG)

222 29...It was a poor black slave from the sub-Saharan regions. Bill S had her chained in order to force her to produce masterpieces which he stole and fed her gruel.
Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (ONvIw)

[nods]
Everyone knows this is correct.

Posted by: First year Eng. Lit. Student at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (Rbu5d)

223 Apropos of nothing -

Second day gumbo is even better than first, and -

makes a hearty breakfast.

Can Kellogg's Gumbo Flakes be far behind?*

*Alphonse the Alligator says: "There-r-r-re tres bien, cher!"

Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (dWwl8)

224 Some day I'll watch the original.

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 10:23 AM (J9wig)

Yeah, it was, but I just watched it for the Kinski gal.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (7bRMQ)

225 My SF read is David Duncan's "Dark Dominion" (1957) about a super secret project to construct the world's first space station. I love the old Big Science tales from back in the day. I read "Beyond Eden" last week, and Duncan's main strength to me is his dialog, and deft handling of love, hate, vanity, and rivalry.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (Dc2NZ)

226 Muldoon will give us a million, due to the brain-organization thing.

*******

Actually no. I'm laboring coming up with any.

(organization? Heh, good one!)

Posted by: Muldoon at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (m45I2)

227 I also get almost all my books via the overdrive library system. I am lucky in that I still can order ebooks from the Ma system as the Boston library system is big on ebooks and gets most of the authors I read all the time. Also, people read them faster and I don't have to wait as long to get the new ones.
MD is pretty good too so when they realize I no longer live in Ma, I will still be able to get new books and now can also get paper books. The library is a 5 minute walk so picking up books is simple.
If you know how to work the system, you can reserve books that are on order and get up in the queue. I currently have about a dozen books on reserve.
I also just requested they buy a book for the first time. I'll see if they honor my request.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (sd8p8)

228 @217

"It isn't that, it's that he doesn't want to be booed and jeered by the crowd."

You may not be aware that in the past 4 years (coincidentally) CPAC has gone hard never-Trump.

another mask that has fallen

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:26 AM (AwPyG)

229 plainsman

mansplain

??

Posted by: Muldoon at February 21, 2021 10:27 AM (m45I2)

230 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:25 AM (sd8p

Books from Overdrive? You don't driveover and get them?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at February 21, 2021 10:27 AM (7bRMQ)

231 Paint stripper and Stripper paint?

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:28 AM (AwPyG)

232 I had posted on some other thread this week that I finally cracked open the Steven Pressfield book I had bought long ago , 36 Righteous Men to read during the power outage.

My favorite author who was either always woke or became super woke. It was a climate change , LGBT shout out , diversity piece of crap supernatural crime story taking place in 2034. And it was also inconsistent and sloppily written . Very unusual for him.

The funny part to me was I was reading it when it was 15 degrees outside in Texas and he had NYC at an average of 115 degrees.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 10:28 AM (2DOZq)

233 I'm continuing to read Tapestry: The Book of Revelation by Glenn Parkinson and liking it more. The book sees Revelation as basically imagery similar to the Bayeux Tapestry that provides a visual history of William the Conqueror's invasion of Britain and the Battle of Hastings. Although basically accurate, the tapestry cannot be used to estimate troop strength or illuminate the intentions of the participants. Further, there are decorative border illustrations of dragons and monsters who were not actually present at Hastings.

Parkinson suggests that Revelation is similar in that the broad thrust is accurate but the word imagery is not intended to be taken literally. For example, the Four Horsemen will not emerge as a future deadly cavalry but rather war, pestilence, famine, and death have been galloping across the world for millennia. Further, we need not prepare to fight a future Antichrist but rather antichrists are currently roaming the world and have been since time immemorial. He sees Revelation as not so much to warn of the future as to prepare us for our current challenges.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 10:28 AM (VVEnO)

234 . . . and Stripper paint?
Posted by: artemis

More accurately known as body glitter.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 21, 2021 10:28 AM (Rvt88)

235 Pretty good list of speakers for this year's CPAC:

https://cpac.conservative.org/speakers/

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:28 AM (Dc2NZ)

236 You may not be aware that in the past 4 years (coincidentally) CPAC has gone hard never-Trump.
I can't say I've heard that. I guess we'll find out at the conference.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:28 AM (v16oJ)

237 CPAC invited Pence as a courtesy, not for a second believing he'd accept. I sorta' wish he'd accepted. Would have been interesting to hear his defense of himself and the deep state he represents along with all the booing.

But mostly the booing.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 21, 2021 10:29 AM (3H9h1)

238 33 A lot of people focus on the heroes, and fixing things like making Anakin less of an annoying tool, ...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 09:17 AM (llXky)

I think Jinn should have sold himself into slavery in exchange for the mother. Things would be 'way different. Jinn was a twit.

Posted by: Flyover at February 21, 2021 10:29 AM (Rbu5d)

239 You may not be aware that in the past 4 years (coincidentally) CPAC has gone hard never-Trump.

another mask that has fallen
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:26 AM (AwPyG)

From how the Horde has described CPAC through the years it struck me as a barely organized freak show of grifting opportunists which sporadically would have a token real conservative.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:32 AM (y7DUB)

240 Some foods are better as leftovers. Spaghetti, e.g.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:32 AM (AwPyG)

241 @239

Bingo

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:33 AM (AwPyG)

242 I dunno. It seems a little too facile to state that Fascists and Nazis
were actually on the left - what was the Spanish Civil War about then?

Posted by: DonnaV at February 21, 2021 10:24 AM (HabA/)

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Thank you for bringing that up! *slips a $20 under the table*

The core cause of the Spanish Civil War was that the Popular Front had created total chaos. Franco was apolitical, and the Army's initial rising was to "restore the Republic." Franco took aid from Germany and Italy because they offered it. He did admire both dictators, but once he achieved power, he created a corporatist state run by technocrats. And yes, the European Right was all over the place in the 1930s. The Nazi/Soviet thing was basically a leftist civil war, though.

For more detail, check out my book, Long Live Death: The Keys to Victory in the Spanish Civil War. Link in my nic, available in paperback or e-book.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:33 AM (llXky)

243 I can't say I've heard that. I guess we'll find out at the conference.
A quick glance at Eris' provided speaker list shows Trump, Pompeo, Noem, DeSantis, Grenell....
Doesn't sound very NT to me.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:34 AM (v16oJ)

244
Pence declined CPAC invite.

Posted by: Hmmm at February 21, 2021 10:22 AM (h7GHl)

I guess that ended a career right there. I have given Pence more leeway than some others over the years. But if he did that, he is saying it is over.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 10:34 AM (Veofh)

245 OM is very "big tent" as regards panstswear/wearspants.

Jammie bottoms, chaps, frilly knickers, plate armor, fishing waders, breakaway stripper pants, it's all good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:34 AM (Dc2NZ)

246 CPAC is a lot like that politician (I've forgotten who it was, some no-name) who tried to pretend that he was the head of the tea party

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:35 AM (AwPyG)

247 Some foods are better as leftovers. Spaghetti, e.g.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:32 AM (AwPyG)

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Stews and soups in particular. I also find tuna salad made fresh doesn't taste as good as it does after the flavors have a few hours to mingle.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:35 AM (llXky)

248 CPAC invited Pence as a courtesy, not for a second believing he'd accept. I sorta' wish he'd accepted. Would have been interesting to hear his defense of himself and the deep state he represents along with all the booing.

But mostly the booing.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 21, 2021 10:29 AM (3H9h1)

While I don't believe Pence now has a path to the White House due to his back-stabbing activities, I do think he believes that.

I expect him to "write" and publish a "tell-all" book next year that will reveal how he saved the world from Dread Trump and his terrible America First Agenda.

He will garner all kinds of new respect from the Left just in time for him to become the palooka who loses with grace to Camel-la.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 10:36 AM (dWwl8)

249 I wanted to like Chesterton's Fr. Brown stories but I'm having a tough time with them, although Chesterton is very good at creating atmosphere. There's more than a touch of Victorian melodrama about them, as well as a certain predictability - you know that the good father - a clerical Columbo - will prevail over the clever atheists, the scientists, the Calvinists and so on. What's striking is how often Chesterton spoke of race when referring to nationality, a reminder that Victorians really did see the Irish, the French, the Germans, etc. as different and distinct races. Jarring now because we're used to the "whites" being all clumped together and blamed for every ill on earth.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 10:36 AM (HabA/)

250 I re-read Lord of the Rings this past week. Lots of parts resonated very strongly with our current situation. We really need a Scouring of the Shire right now.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 21, 2021 10:36 AM (QZxDR)

251 Also Cotton, Hawley, Cruz, Schlichter....

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:36 AM (v16oJ)

252 CPAC is a lot like that politician (I've forgotten who it was, some no-name) who tried to pretend that he was the head of the tea party
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:35 AM (AwPyG)

Dick Armey? I think that was the last time I heard anything from him.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:37 AM (y7DUB)

253 @242...Franco's rope-a-dope with Hitler during WWII is an underappreciated example of great statesmanship. "Franco=Fascist" conventional wisdom notwithstanding, Franco knew his man, didn't much care for him, saw early where it was all headed, and played a weak hand brilliantly in defense of Spain and its interests.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2021 10:37 AM (8HvsU)

254 I can't stop scrolling...

There's a monster erotica book called "Grinding with the Golem".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:37 AM (Dc2NZ)

255 Not that I'm defending him, but didn't Pence already say he wanted out of politics?
If he decided to run for something or becomes a TV shill, then go after him.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:37 AM (sd8p8)

256
I dunno. It seems a little too facile to state that Fascists and Nazis

were actually on the left - what was the Spanish Civil War about then?

Posted by: DonnaV at February 21, 2021 10:24 AM (HabA/)

left and right is too facile. That is why they came up with the four quadrant test such as the "Worlds Smallest Political Quizz" and the "Political Compass Test". In the end, it is about statists and non statists. I guess you can throw in monstrous authoritarians as well. But I can see how Fascists are no the Left, for me it is very easy to see and understand.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 10:38 AM (Veofh)

257 Looking at the news from this week two stories caught my eye.
Biden says China exterminating ethnic minorities is part of their culture and ok.
US extradites former NAZI prison guard back to Germany.

Perhaps in his defense Mr Berger should just quote Biden's words in regards to China?

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:38 AM (qlFIA)

258 @244

And something that didn't get mentioned much, when Pence accepted/certified the election results, he changed the normal wording on the official document to include some weasel words.

Similar to how Pelosi certified that Obama was qualified to be president when he was put on the ballot for president. Rather than affirm under penalty of perjury, she affirmed "to the best of my knowledge"

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:38 AM (AwPyG)

259 Franco knew his man, didn't much care for him, saw early where it was
all headed, and played a weak hand brilliantly in defense of Spain and
its interests.
Pity about his consistency, mortality-wise.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:39 AM (v16oJ)

260 The Pelosi weasel words were for the California presidential ballot

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:39 AM (AwPyG)

261 There's a monster erotica book called "Grinding with the Golem".

Eris, does he have big feet?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:39 AM (sd8p8)

262 You have to be in the right frame of mind to read Chesterton's mysteries. By which I mean you have to basically take your suspension of disbelief and bury it in the yard. Most of them rely on the police and everyone else involved (except Father Brown, that is) being so blinded by Not Being Catholics that they are baffled.

Fun thought experiment: drop a Raymond Chandler detective into a Father Brown story and see how long it takes him to solve the case.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 21, 2021 10:40 AM (QZxDR)

263 didn't Pence already say he wanted out of politics?
Yeah, I think that ship already sailed.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:40 AM (v16oJ)

264 I just saw something unusual. A commercial for eyebrow makeup by some Romanian chick I never heard of that begins by discussing how much communism sucked in Romania. Electricity shuts off at 6:00 P.M. and there is no heat. Boy, I'm glad nothing like that could happen in this country!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 10:41 AM (VVEnO)

265 rotograms:
trackside (betting close to the horsies), sidetrack (what the HQ frequently does to me)
workout (lifting heavy things), outwork (the defenses in front of the castle wall)
Posted by: mikeski

setup (Dominion Voting)/upset (types/deletes)

Posted by: mikeski at February 21, 2021 10:41 AM (P1f+c)

266 Not that I'm defending him, but didn't Pence already say he wanted out of politics?

If he decided to run for something or becomes a TV shill, then go after him.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:37 AM (sd8p

I didn't see that. And I have supported Pence for years when many gave him short shrift. But if he can't show up at Cpac and at least defend his president and the administration he was a part of, then he is obviously tuned out and is making a point by not showing. There are rules to this thing. To not show up is a bad sign.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 10:41 AM (Veofh)

267 @255

I'm only watching the tea leaves, but it seems pretty clear that Pence/Haley were being positioned for 2024.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:41 AM (AwPyG)

268 Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:40 AM (v16oJ)

Ahoy! I think I'll take up cruising!

Posted by: Mike Pence at February 21, 2021 10:41 AM (7bRMQ)

269 Nationalist Socialist Germany and Fascist Italy both supported Franco in Spain. They also were on the verge of war with each other several times in the 30s.

Right wing autocratic Hungary allied with National Socialist Germany...but Germany took Hungarian leader Horthy's son prisoner and forced him to turn the country over to an actual National Socialist.

Etc etc etc.

Authoritarian regimes tend to form alliance over immediate interests, not some sort of ideological unity.

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (qlFIA)

270 Liz Cheney and Romney won't be at CPAC.

No Sasse either.

Posted by: LOL at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (lXP9C)

271 didn't Pence already say he wanted out of politics?

Yeah, I think that ship already sailed.
Posted by: pep

Sailed, and somehow managed to launch a torpedo at itself.

Posted by: mikeski at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (P1f+c)

272 mikeski FTW on the Dominion reference

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (AwPyG)

273 I'm continuing to read Tapestry: The Book of
Revelation by Glenn Parkinson and liking it more.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 10:28 AM (VVEnO)

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My wife has been doing a lot of reading on angels, the Heavenly Host and stuff like that. The Eastern Orthodox Church seems to have a lot to say about it, so she's been listening to some of their podcasts. I'm reading the transcripts, which are interesting. Short version: the 'false gods' (Zeus, Thor, Osiris) were actually rebel angels making mischief.

Their 'magic' actually did work, and the signs and portents were real, but when confronted with the True God, they lost their power, so the rise of Christianity was through combat in the spiritual realm. Fascinating stuff.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (llXky)

274 I am also reading (and enjoying) Larry Correia's Gunrunner, purchased despite my attempt to buy nothing in February to fight the woke cancellation attempt against Baen Books. Allegedly because insurrection was being plotted in the Baen Bar online forums. This is hilarious, because even if insurrection WAS being plotted, all you would have to do to distract them is ask innocent questions about best caliber for stopping power, or whether or not Glocks are the embodiment of evil, and they would chase their own tails for a week. Gun owners, yes and in profusion. Machiavellian plotters....not so much.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at February 21, 2021 10:43 AM (Fu+dp)

275 A commercial for eyebrow makeup by some Romanian chick I never heard of
that begins by discussing how much communism sucked in Romania.
Rula Lenska? As a yute, I remember seeing her on TV ads for shampoo. She'd say "I'm Rula Lenska" and I'd think "who?".

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:43 AM (v16oJ)

276 I'm only watching the tea leaves, but it seems pretty clear that Pence/Haley were being positioned for 2024.

"Were"

Not anymore.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:43 AM (sd8p8)

277 Judge for yourself, Sharon:

https://tinyurl.com/2mu2c29l

Can't tell, but he has yuge mitts, so...

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:43 AM (Dc2NZ)

278 @259...not sure what you're trying to say there. "Pity about his consistency, morality-wise."

If you mean what I think you mean, the real pity here is that so many feel the need to state the obvious when far more interesting topics are being considered.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2021 10:43 AM (8HvsU)

279 Rather than left or right, I divide politicians into assholes and non-assholes. OK, mostly assholes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 10:43 AM (VVEnO)

280 Sailed, and somehow managed to launch a torpedo at itself.
Insert obligatory "you arrogant ass, you've killed us" quote here.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:44 AM (v16oJ)

281 @276

Right. Although the uniparty never seems to feel shame, or the need to placate the voters, so maybe we'll see a Pence/Haley ticket and told we'd better vote for them, and they swear they'll be better next time.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:45 AM (AwPyG)

282 I think it's the height of ridiculousness to put any blame on Pence for the election.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 10:45 AM (2DOZq)

283 Authoritarian regimes tend to form alliance over immediate interests, not some sort of ideological unity.

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (qlFIA)

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That's actually a feature of classical international politics, once described as "the realist school." Metternich, Bismarck and Kissinger were of this approach.

The term "realist" has now been debased by globalists, and the rise of popular democracies has made it harder to governments to pull strategic pivots. Back in the Good Old Days, though, one might be Prussia's ally in one war, and then their enemy in the next. The British famously had no permanent allies, only permanent interests. This is why Washington wanted the US to always stay non-aligned.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:45 AM (llXky)

284 If you mean what I think you mean, the real pity
here is that so many feel the need to state the obvious when far more
interesting topics are being considered.

Posted by: occam's brassiere
I'm sure you're thinking about something deeper than me. I was just making a cutesy reference to the old SNL bit about Franco still being dead.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:45 AM (v16oJ)

285 Rather than left or right, I divide politicians into assholes and non-assholes. OK, mostly assholes.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 10:43 AM (VVEnO)

Concur.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 10:46 AM (R/m4+)

286 After the base has had an alpha President good luck to any GOPe eunuchs trying to get a minimum of traction.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 21, 2021 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

287 Left and right is sort of a weak way to frame it anyway - it comes from revolutionary era France and doesn't really explain modern politics very well.

Mitt Romney is a right wing technocrat. Barack Obama is a left wing technocrat. Politically they share the same world view - Romney is more competent and a bit more realistic. But imagine a government of Romneys and a government of Obamas. Are you free in either of them?

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:47 AM (qlFIA)

288 After the base has had an alpha President good luck to any GOPe eunuchs trying to get a minimum of traction.
I think you might be right. The conditions have changed. Mitt Romney would never be the nom today.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:48 AM (v16oJ)

289 @262...Marlowe'd never solve a Fr Brown mystery. Not a proper solution anyway. Marlowe never really solved a case. He just bumbled around. But his bumbling somehow convinced all concerned that he knew alot more than he did, and he in time becomes the fulcrum of the entire situation. Then, the truth is more or less revealed to him. Among the reasons the Big Lebowski is so funny. They make this obvious.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2021 10:48 AM (8HvsU)

290 Can't tell, but he has yuge mitts, so...

Oh, my ......

Hard to believe people make money writing this stuff.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:49 AM (sd8p8)

291 @285

And I think the guys who hold true to their convictions and are up front about it are always more admirable than the backstabbers, no matter which party.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:49 AM (AwPyG)

292 @284...ah, then I retract it all.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2021 10:49 AM (8HvsU)

293 154 I looked up "Wasp" on Amazon and among those listed was "City Boy: a Gay Hockey Romance" by A.E. Wasp

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

What is the link to the correct (sci-fi) book?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 10:49 AM (Qc+rX)

294 I am still watching this tour of an 1855 West Virginia homestead:

https://youtu.be/ASmVMoVd-ys

It's worthy of the book thread because there are two separate living areas with impressive libraries.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 21, 2021 10:50 AM (YynYJ)

295 I'm sure you're thinking about something deeper than
me. I was just making a cutesy reference to the old SNL bit about
Franco still being dead.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:45 AM (v16oJ)

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The backstory on the joke is that Franco was the last of the 1930s dictators and he was on death's door for *months* and there were several premature announcements. His heart would stop the docs would get it going again. His family finally told the docs to just let him die already.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:50 AM (llXky)

296 Andy Andrews' hillarious mashup, including the house in New Orleans: https://youtu.be/2cINrWlfCPI

Posted by: Half Dozen at February 21, 2021 10:51 AM (8OHMQ)

297 On the subject of books with "flakey, unpredictable" magic, I highly recommend the kids' book "Half Magic" by Edward Eager. Published in 1954 & thankfully free of SJW nonsense, it's the story of 4 free-range siblings who find a magic coin that grants wishes. However, it only grants half of the wish, so math and strategery is involved. Much hilarity ensues. My kids and I found it riotously funny (though, of course, YMMV).

Posted by: Hoplite Housewife at February 21, 2021 10:52 AM (R1NI2)

298 @288

I dunno, I'm not as optimistic.

The bad guys control the state apparatus (as we have seen) and remember that NOBODY wanted John McCain as a candidate, but he would up as our only choice. And that was 13 years ago

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:52 AM (AwPyG)

299 Authoritarian regimes tend to form alliance over immediate interests, not some sort of ideological unity.

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (qlFI

I think that may be true for any regime , authoritarian or not, ie ; USA and Soviet Union

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 10:52 AM (2DOZq)

300 " Most of them rely on the police and everyone else involved (except Father Brown, that is) being so blinded by Not Being Catholics that they are baffled."

LOL, yep. Take Flambeau, the reformed King of Thieves, famous throughout Europe, who becomes an honest man (thanks to Brown) and sets up shop as a detective in London. This dude managed to evade police for years because he was so wily and clever, but I'm still waiting for him to solve just one crime on his own without Fr. Brown's help. The King of Thieves is a pretty useless detective.
Yeah, you do have to be in the right mood for them - otherwise, you're irritated rather than amused. I do like the wicked aristocrats, who are falling apart physically and morally in that rather picturesque decadent 1890's way.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 10:52 AM (HabA/)

301 281 @276
Right. Although the uniparty never seems to feel shame, or the need to placate the voters, so maybe we'll see a Pence/Haley ticket and told we'd better vote for them, and they swear they'll be better next time.
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:45 AM (AwPyG)

You know, I'm still kind of shocked that Our Betters didn't assemble a Blue-Ribbon Panel of the Usual Democrat and Republican Turdbiters to conduct a half-assed review of the questionable state votes, and declare them fine and dandy and within the best ability of the American voting system to produce.

They could've easily kept Trump's people out saying something like "they're too biased". And given the thumb's up afterward.

Probably, most people would've gone along with it. Maybe grumbling but gone along.

They've created a YUGE credibility problem for themselves which could've been easily minimized and managed.

Stupid really.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 10:52 AM (dWwl8)

302 Mitt Romney is a right wing technocrat. Barack Obama
is a left wing technocrat. Politically they share the same world view -
Romney is more competent and a bit more realistic. But imagine a
government of Romneys and a government of Obamas. Are you free in either
of them?

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:47 AM (qlFIA)

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I think Romney is of the left, actually. He's pro-choice, supports gun control, created Obamacare - he is just more of a squish about it.

Obama's quip about "having enough money" was clearly a sop to the socialists, because Obama himself is going to take as much as he can, along with his friends. Ideologically, they're the same.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:53 AM (llXky)

303 @297

I loved Half-Magic! Thanks for reminding me

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:53 AM (AwPyG)

304 @284...ah, then I retract it all.
Just out of curiosity, what were you thinking?

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:53 AM (v16oJ)

305 output

putout

Posted by: Muldoon at February 21, 2021 10:53 AM (m45I2)

306
You may not be aware that in the past 4 years (coincidentally) CPAC has gone hard never-Trump.

another mask that has fallen
Posted by: artemis

Interesting, no wonder I haven't tuned in in years.

Posted by: Infidel at February 21, 2021 10:53 AM (JKh2y)

307 That's actually a feature of classical international politics, once
described as "the realist school." Metternich, Bismarck and Kissinger
were of this approach.
Yes. As another example the Soviet Union started off *allied* to National Socialist Germany in WWII and they invaded Poland together. Churchill came close to intervening on Finland's side in the Winter War which would have had Britain and France at war with the Soviet Union in 1939...
Oh the reason the plans came to nothing? Norway and Sweden refused to give the allies rights of passage to get to Finland - Sweden would later get rich selling to National Socialist Germany during the war.

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:54 AM (qlFIA)

308 OK, oregon muse, I'll try: But I may need a do-over if I overdo this game.
And I think I'll head over to work to work on overhead.

Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 10:54 AM (TigTd)

309 My wife has been doing a lot of reading on angels, the Heavenly Host and stuff like that. The Eastern Orthodox Church seems to have a lot to say about it, so she's been listening to some of their podcasts. I'm reading the transcripts, which are interesting. Short version: the 'false gods' (Zeus, Thor, Osiris) were actually rebel angels making mischief.

Their 'magic' actually did work, and the signs and portents were real, but when confronted with the True God, they lost their power, so the rise of Christianity was through combat in the spiritual realm. Fascinating stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (llXky)

There's a Protestant (Reformed) writer, James Jordan, who thinks pretty much the same thing. Now I wonder if he came up with it independently or just borrowed it from the EO?

NTTAWWT

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 10:55 AM (Qc+rX)

310 Suggestions for a book or two on the journeys of Lewis and Clark to Oregon and Washington please.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 10:55 AM (U2p+3)

311 What is the link to the correct (sci-fi) book?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 10:49 AM (Qc+rX)

I don't know, and would like to find it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 10:56 AM (Dc2NZ)

312 Suggestions for a book or two on the journeys of Lewis and Clark to Oregon and Washington please.
Undaunted Courage.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 10:56 AM (v16oJ)

313 OM its probably Wasp by Eric Frank Russell, 1957
satirical sf

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 21, 2021 10:56 AM (nUhF0)

314 Something like 80% of Republicans still back Trump. It is his party now. The never Trumpers are being blamed for facilitating his loss. They just do no have any traction with the party. The congressmen and senators who voted for impeachment are getting vilified and probably primaried. Haley was booed at a meeting in Massachusetts! That should say something.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 10:56 AM (sd8p8)

315 I'm sure you're thinking about something deeper than
me. I was just making a cutesy reference to the old SNL bit about
Franco still being dead.

Posted by: pep

I see that SNL has gone full Nazi.

https://bit.ly/3ulHV2I

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 10:56 AM (VVEnO)

316 They've created a YUGE credibility problem for themselves which could've been easily minimized and managed.

Assume the theft in 2020 was a one time thing - it would make sense for the left to go ahead and handle it the way you suggest - find some trivial fraud that didn't change anything, and especially some Republican culprit, and let us rail against how they intentionally screwed up the investigation while the LIVs hear "nothing to see here".
Instead assume they plan on massive electoral theft moving forward. Now would you want to talk about fraud at all? No. Because you are going to steal 2022 and 2024 and....forever.

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:57 AM (qlFIA)

317 Oh the reason the plans came to nothing? Norway and
Sweden refused to give the allies rights of passage to get to Finland -
Sweden would later get rich selling to National Socialist Germany during
the war.

Posted by: Obligatory at February 21, 2021 10:54 AM (qlFIA)

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In my book, I take a look at what might have happened if Spain went "red" and Franco lost.

Would the revolution have spread into France? What about Portugal? Portugal is interesting because Britain had a long-standing alliance with them, and so the British might have had to intervene against the Soviets and allied themselves with Italy and Germany. France might have collapsed into civil war. Lots of possibilities.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:57 AM (llXky)

318 @312

Second vote for Undaunted Courage

What was really interesting to me was how little was known about the unexplored country

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:57 AM (AwPyG)

319 I'm up to chapter 6 in the Harry Potter retelling. This is better than the original, and its hard to put down.

Thanks, OM!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 21, 2021 10:57 AM (OssQ4)

320 @304...anti-semitism, authoritarianism, etc. My original comment dealt with Franco playing a bad hand very well in WWII. Too often in my experience too many inject into such a converstaions a florid denunciation of the subject's moral and ethical shortcomings, as if that wasn't well known, even assumed.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2021 10:58 AM (8HvsU)

321 For example, the Bitterroot Mountains were a (very unwelcome) surprise to Lewis and Clark

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 10:58 AM (AwPyG)

322 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 10:57 AM (llXky)

The revolution almost spread to France anyway. I think only prevented by De Gaulle. Most of the French resistance were commies IIRC.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:00 AM (2DOZq)

323
There's a Protestant (Reformed) writer, James
Jordan, who thinks pretty much the same thing. Now I wonder if he came
up with it independently or just borrowed it from the EO?

NTTAWWT

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 10:55 AM (Qc+rX)

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If he did, he would have had to do some serious Bible study because much of the information is in books not included in the Protestant canon. He's have to get it from Orthodox sources.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:01 AM (llXky)

324 @314

That Haley was booed in Mass warms the cockles of my heart. I hope she and Pence can never go out in public again.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:01 AM (AwPyG)

325 270 Liz Cheney and Romney won't be at CPAC.

No Sasse either.

Posted by: LOL at February 21, 2021 10:42 AM (lXP9C)

So, CPAC is going to be, what, a Ben Shapiro dance party?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:01 AM (Qc+rX)

326 I am craving croissants so off to the farmers market before they are all gone.
Have a great day. It is nice and sunny here but very cold.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 11:01 AM (sd8p8)

327 So, CPAC is going to be, what, a Ben Shapiro dance party?
Tonight I'll destroy these liberal college kids. WITH MY DANCE MOVES.

Posted by: Ben Shapiro at February 21, 2021 11:02 AM (qlFIA)

328 Ironically, although Franco was "allied" with Germany and Italy, Spain became a haven for Jews during the war, I believe. Spain, of course, has its' own history of antisemitism, but it's my understanding that networks existed in WWII to smuggle Jews into Spain, which of course was neutral during the war.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:02 AM (HabA/)

329 Greetings:

I started reading Ian Toll's "Twilight of the Gods" yesterday. it's the third volume of the author's World War II trilogy. It's my fourth tome by this author and he does not disappoint.

Posted by: 11B40 at February 21, 2021 11:02 AM (evgyj)

330 You have to be in the right frame of mind to read Chesterton's mysteries. By which I mean you have to basically take your suspension of disbelief and bury it in the yard. Most of them rely on the police and everyone else involved (except Father Brown, that is) being so blinded by Not Being Catholics that they are baffled.

I think that's Chesterton pretty much always. Check out "The Napoleon of Notting Hill" or "The Man Who Was Thursday".

I enjoy those books but they strike the modern brain a little strangely. If he was some leftist sucker-punching the hell outta "conservatives", sure we'd feel comfortable with that as it's a common thing.

But, at Chesterton's time, the science wasn't settled so to speak, these were still political and moral issues up for grabs and Chesterton was gonna fight the good fight with wit, humor, and intelligence..

So, Catholic sucker-punches for you, you heathen!
KAZOW!!!! Right to your heathen kisser!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 11:03 AM (dWwl8)

331 Andy Andrews' hillarious mashup, including the house in New Orleans: https://youtu.be/2cINrWlfCPI
Posted by: Half Dozen

Ha!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (VVEnO)

332 Franco used Germany like we used the Soviet Union. Would that be fair to say A H Lloyd?

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (2DOZq)

333 The Father Brown series on Masterpiece got so woke that I can't watch it any more.

a real shame.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (AwPyG)

334 The revolution almost spread to France anyway. I
think only prevented by De Gaulle. Most of the French resistance were
commies IIRC.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:00 AM (2DOZq)

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That was what Petain and Laval (i.e. Vichy) were worried about, and why they chose to surrender when they did.

Evelyn Waugh remarks several times that the "resistance" movements were shot through with Communists.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (llXky)

335 Dreamweaver! I love Gary Wright.

Posted by: John Weaver at February 21, 2021 11:05 AM (m+dUi)

336 313 OM its probably Wasp by Eric Frank Russell, 1957
satirical sf

Posted by: vmom WWRS What Would Rush Say at February 21, 2021 10:56 AM (nUhF0)

Oh, right, EFR. I read Men, Martians, and Machines when I was in grade school many years ago. Guy is a laff riot.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:06 AM (Qc+rX)

337 This is what I have:

https://www.amazon.com/Wasp-Eric-Frank-Russell/dp/0575070951

His book Next of Kin was good, too.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 21, 2021 11:06 AM (PiwSw)

338 Thanks guys.
Ordered. Amazon. Yeah, I know. But it's just so damn convenient.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 11:06 AM (U2p+3)

339 ronically, although Franco was "allied" with Germany
and Italy, Spain became a haven for Jews during the war, I believe.
Spain, of course, has its' own history of antisemitism, but it's my
understanding that networks existed in WWII to smuggle Jews into Spain,
which of course was neutral during the war.

Posted by: DonnaV at February 21, 2021 11:02 AM (HabA/)

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Franco didn't hate Jews. He hated Freemasons.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:06 AM (llXky)

340 Eris 24: I didn't before but I do now!!

Posted by: Funsize at February 21, 2021 11:07 AM (EiPf6)

341 Sharon is very slender, and it gives me much joy to read about all the delicious meals she prepares. Now she's off to get croissants. She must have a thermonuclear metabolism.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 11:08 AM (TdMsT)

342 {{{Nurse}}}

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 11:08 AM (TdMsT)

343 Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 11:03 AM (dWwl

Well, Chesterton was a convert and converts (if they convert due to belief and not just because their fiance wants to get married in the Church or something like that) tend to be the most zealous of believers. True in any religion.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:08 AM (HabA/)

344 ~~Ironically[s/] Unexpectedly, although Franco was "allied" with Germany and Italy, Spain became a haven for Jews during the war~~
~~FIFY~~

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (v16oJ)

345 Sharon is very slender, and it gives me much joy to read about all the delicious meals she prepares. Now she's off to get croissants. She must have a thermonuclear metabolism.
Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist

Mrs. Wrecks watches Giada on the Food Channel and she's skinny as a toothpick.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (VVEnO)

346 nazism and fascism are not "right wing" ideologies. They only became "rightwing on june 22, 1941, when the national socialist took a go at the international socialists.

Perpetuating that myth does no favor to any anti-communist.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80

Thank you.

My own theory is that there is no "Left" or "Right".

There is murderous lawless psychopathic totalitarian socialism /communism /groupthink and there is normal people trying to live in a normal free society under the law.

Posted by: SharkmanLast of the Ninth at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (0bGEp)

347 I free downloaded "Unintended Consequences" a while back and finished the 749 pages last week.
If you want to know a LOT about guns, and want to hold the FBI and ATF in even greater contempt (and plan to revitalize the 2d Amendment at the same time), this is the book for you.
Now, if I only was independently wealthy, had my own jet and NFA licenses and some close like-minded friends . . .

Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (TigTd)

348 333 The Father Brown series on Masterpiece got so woke that I can't watch it any more.

a real shame.
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (AwPyG)

We started watching it a while back. Introduced a gay character in the 2nd or 3rd episode, complete with 'woke' lecture on discrimination. Because Chesterton was all about normalizing homosexual behavior.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (Qc+rX)

349 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (KnJdm)

350 Well damn, that didn't work at all. I blame my keyboard from China.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (v16oJ)

351 Suggestions for a book or two on the journeys of Lewis and Clark to Oregon and Washington please.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 10:55 AM (U2p+3)

I look forward to those suggestions as well. You didn't ask, but for a book on Washington the man, I always offer up Flexner and decry the abomination of Ellis.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (Veofh)

352 Franco used Germany like we used the Soviet Union. Would that be fair to say A H Lloyd?

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (2DOZq)

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Italy's contribution was far greater than Germany's. Germany's air contribution was never larger than 100 aircraft at any given time and he offered a few dozen Panzer Is, hardly a world-beating force. Italy sent over hundreds of aircraft, tens of thousands of troops and basically enough artillery to re-equip the Spanish Army. The only one who sent as much was Russia, who didn't send as many 'volunteers' but did send huge amounts of hardware.

Franco knew Spain was wrecked and couldn't afford to get into the war. It was dependent on US food imports and with its long coast line, the Allies would have made his life hell. So he danced up to the edge of neutrality, sold the Germans lots and lots of guns, but backed away when the tide turned. Basically he put Spain first.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (llXky)

353
Something is poking me way, way in the back of my brain telling me that this is not the first time I've heard about a sword-and-sorcery/noir mashup, but I just can't recall.

Not a book, but the Harry P. Lovecraft noir TV movies that HBO produced in the 90s come close. Cast a Deadly Spell and Witch Hunt, with Fred Ward and Dennis Hopper playing the private eye Lovecraft. 40s and 50s noirish stories in a world where people use magic daily. Monsters and cheezy special effects.

Correia's Grimnoir books plow the same field, although with a more scientific basis for magic.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 21, 2021 11:11 AM (EGyGV)

354 @343

Yes. I find it really interesting to ask a convert how and when they heard "the call."

Same with a religious--ask a priest or a nun, and it's usually a fascinating story.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:11 AM (AwPyG)

355 Mrs. Wrecks watches Giada on the Food Channel and she's skinny as a toothpick.
That's because all available calories go to her ginormous gourd.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:11 AM (v16oJ)

356 Outshoot / shootout

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 21, 2021 11:12 AM (J9wig)

357 Suggestions for a book or two on the journeys of Lewis and Clark to Oregon and Washington please.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 10:55 AM (U2p+3)

I look forward to those suggestions as well. You didn't ask, but for a book on Washington the man, I always offer up Flexner and decry the abomination of Ellis.
Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (Veofh)

Just got here, so dont know if anyone mentioned it but Undaunted Courage for the win.

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 11:12 AM (Ed8Zd)

358 the Athenians were pretty much cocksuckers

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbit

Edited for increased accuracy.

Posted by: SharkmanLast of the Ninth at February 21, 2021 11:13 AM (0bGEp)

359 Oh, and Franco sent about 30,000 troops to help Hitler in Russia. Look up "Blue Division." One of the more awkward elements of Spanish diplomacy was that the ones who came back got to keep their German honors and some attained high rank in the Spanish government.

Kind of awkward, but as the Cold War deepened, Franco reminded everyone that he was anti-Soviet before it was fashionable.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:13 AM (llXky)

360 I think Orwell pointed out how the Spanish were "softer" than the Krauts, Eyeties or Soviets. When they searched his hotel room, the Spanish commies turned over everything and found a copy of "Mein Kampf" to much oohing and aahing but the agents never looked under or turned over the bed on which his wife was laying.

That would have just be uncivilized.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 11:14 AM (R/m4+)

361 @346

A lot of people (myself included) break it down even more simply: good vs evil.

See: everything in the Bible

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:14 AM (AwPyG)

362 347 I free downloaded "Unintended Consequences" a while back and finished the 749 pages last week.
If you want to know a LOT about guns, and want to hold the FBI and ATF in even greater contempt (and plan to revitalize the 2d Amendment at the same time), this is the book for you.
Now, if I only was independently wealthy, had my own jet and NFA licenses and some close like-minded friends . . .
Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 11:10 AM (TigTd)

UC was one of the first books I recommended here a number of years ago when I first started doing to book thread. Recommended it before I finished reading it, and had to reverse my recommendation, because it suddenly turned into revenge pr0n. I thought it was repellent.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:14 AM (Qc+rX)

363 333 The Father Brown series on Masterpiece got so woke that I can't watch it any more.

a real shame.
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (AwPyG)

Oh, Lord. A "woke" Chesterton is a contradiction in terms.

There was some other series on PBS involving clerics in a small English village during the 1930's. I found it mildly entertaining - until it turned out that one of the clerics was gay and of course, the enlightened people of the village reacted just like enlightened people do today. "Love is love" and "you were born that way" is just what you'd expect 1930's English villagers to say, right?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:14 AM (HabA/)

364 11b40, also good reads are books by Hornfischer. I recommend "Neptune's Inferno" about the naval battles at Guadalcanal. Also "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" about the battle at Leyte Gulf.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at February 21, 2021 11:14 AM (VNmG1)

365 Gun show
Shogun

Posted by: Citizen sans nation

"Hai!"

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:15 AM (0bGEp)

366 Looking at the library pic, I imagine trying to negotiate that spiral staircase, while carrying an armload of books.

Oh! Armload...loadarm. No, never mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:17 AM (vOGqy)

367 Put not your faith in Pences.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:17 AM (2BZBZ)

368 I think Orwell pointed out how the Spanish were
"softer" than the Krauts, Eyeties or Soviets. When they searched his
hotel room, the Spanish commies turned over everything and found a copy
of "Mein Kampf" to much oohing and aahing but the agents never looked
under or turned over the bed on which his wife was laying.

That would have just be uncivilized.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 21, 2021 11:14 AM (R/m4+)

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LOL. The Spanish weren't about to get into bed checks. That way lies madness.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:17 AM (llXky)

369 So, CPAC is going to be, what, a Ben Shapiro dance party?
Posted by: OregonMuse

The speaker list looks pretty solid. A lot of new people.

Posted by: Infidel at February 21, 2021 11:18 AM (JKh2y)

370 @363

I've mentioned this before, but the latest British production of "And Then There Were None" had a bunch of men stuck on an island in the 30's (between the World Wars) and they were all nearly hysterical that one of them had a gun in his luggage.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:18 AM (AwPyG)

371 the oddest book-related thing that happened to me this week is that amazon e-mailed me a coupon for $5 off a book that i already have, and they should know i already have: i bought it from them and it's sitting on my kindle.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 21, 2021 11:18 AM (5br8a)

372 Finishing up VDH's "The Second World Wars" (yeah I am a slow reader). I am on the chapter on sieges. It seem to me one could make one hell of a horror movie from any of these stories.

Imagine the Siege of Leningrad but change it to a fantasy setting. You could out do Steven King easily with a few name changes and just literally rewriting history.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at February 21, 2021 11:18 AM (6Pqz7)

373 Yes, OM, it did turn a bit nasty toward the end. But, like he said, after the first one, they are all free.
And if the country keeps going it its current direction, there will be an abundance of revenge.

Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 11:19 AM (TigTd)

374 @367

Ha!

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:19 AM (AwPyG)

375 Good morning, Horde.

Books! BOOKS!

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 21, 2021 11:19 AM (B5IGS)

376 Suggestion re Lewis and Clark...Brian Hall's "I Should Be Extremely Happy In Your Company".

A novel, but excellent treatment of L&C...and Sacagaweea.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at February 21, 2021 11:19 AM (8HvsU)

377 I've mentioned this before, but the latest British
production of "And Then There Were None" had a bunch of men stuck on an
island in the 30's (between the World Wars) and they were all nearly
hysterical that one of them had a gun in his luggage.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:18 AM (AwPyG)

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Writers today are so clueless they have no idea what people before them thought, or how they could think that way. A total failure of imagination.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:19 AM (llXky)

378 I got some books at the thrift shop the other day (can't beat the prices!) So now I'm reading a Frank Herbert novella called "Heisenberg's eyes" which is quite dystopian.

Posted by: Funsize at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (EiPf6)

379 "Love is love" and "you were born that way" is just what you'd expect 1930's English villagers to say, right?
Spoiler Alert if you plan to watch The Dig on Netflix.

It's the story of the discovery of a trove of Anglo-Saxon artifacts in a British farm field right before WWII. One of the subplots revolves around the delectable Lily James, an archeology grad student, and her blithering idiot of a husband, who turns out to be gay (no s***, Sherlock).
Anyway, she decides to move on and get it on with another male character. In splitting with her husband, she tells him "we're on different paths", and "I've seen you when you're happy, and it's beautiful". Right. Nothing about "you flaming poof, WTH did you marry me?"

Revisionism, FTW!

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (v16oJ)

380 The Father Brown series on Masterpiece got so woke that I can't watch it any more.

a real shame.
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (AwPyG)

Oh, Lord. A "woke" Chesterton is a contradiction in terms.

There was some other series on PBS involving clerics in a small English village during the 1930's. I found it mildly entertaining - until it turned out that one of the clerics was gay and of course, the enlightened people of the village reacted just like enlightened people do today. "Love is love" and "you were born that way" is just what you'd expect 1930's English villagers to say, right?
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V
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BBC has gone full woke. I expect every series to have at least one ghey character, and we will be reminded of it constantly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (vOGqy)

381 @371

It's like when you buy an item and you immediately see ads for that item.

The algorithm doesn't seem very smart

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (AwPyG)

382 JAS, nice turn of phrase.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (B5IGS)

383 Hi Ladyl!

Rained all night here. Cloudy and windy here on the beach. Good reading weather.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 11:21 AM (U2p+3)

384 I got some books at the thrift shop the other day (can't beat the prices!) So now I'm reading a Frank Herbert novella called "Heisenberg's eyes" which is quite dystopian.
Posted by: Funsize
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When dropping off the occasional donation at Goodwill, I tell myself. "Don't go in and look at the books, don't go in and look at the books".

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:23 AM (1vynn)

385 btw, it's not just the EO, but the RCC also teaches that every false god is a demon.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:23 AM (2BZBZ)

386 The Father Brown series on Masterpiece got so woke that I can't watch it any more.

a real shame.
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:04 AM (AwPyG)

I tried watching it, and found it was woke from the start. OM says the gay character was in the second episode, I don't even remember, I had the impression it was the FIRST. But whichever it was, I knew the original story quite well and could immediately tell that the whole approach to Chesterton had been wrenched off its axis and wrangled into a completely wrongheaded direction, and I gave up on the series right there.

I read a lot of the Father Brown stories when I was quite young, but I find them a bit weird now. They seem to depend on the existence of a world - a Catholic world - that just isn't there anymore. That's why I no longer support the 'cause' of getting Chesterton made a saint. The Catholic Church he belonged to doesn't exist anymore, and he has no place in the current one. I've read far more of his non-fiction writing, including apologetics, and I find that the current Catholic Church really resembles best the Anglican Church he had so many reasons to leave.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 21, 2021 11:24 AM (seUPa)

387 Writers today are so clueless they have no idea what
people before them thought, or how they could think that way. A total
failure of imagination.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:19 AM (llXky)

a total failure of history. What so many do today for no good reason at all is place themselves in times of the past and then talk about how they would view the past today. The only history that matters is learning about what people at the time thought about what was going on. Sure we can judge when it is time to put on our judging caps, but if you are trying to explain history, the only real thing that matters other than the facts, is what people thought about the facts at that time.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:24 AM (Veofh)

388 I've read Ann Althouse's blog maybe 4 or 5 times and the last time I did so, she was reading Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and she expressed outrage that Shirer lumped homosexuals in with the drug addicts and thugs and social misfits that surrounded Hitler. (Roehm was both gay and a disgusting thug and social misfit)That book was published in 1961, I believe. Shirer was pretty lefty and yet he (to Althouse's chagrin) apparently accepted the common belief that there was something perverse about homosexuality. Althouse, who is old enough to know better, seemed upset that a book published in the early '60's did not reflect "enlightened" views of homosexuality. What a naive viewpoint.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:26 AM (HabA/)

389 @384

I love to browse the books at a yard sale. Always a fun insight into the person who lives/lived there

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

390 btw, it's not just the EO, but the RCC also teaches that every false god is a demon.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:23 AM (2BZBZ)

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Yes, but the Orthodox seem more into elaborating on it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:27 AM (llXky)

391 Oversleep;
sleepover.

Very apropos this morning.

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 11:27 AM (Ed8Zd)

392 296 Andy Andrews' hillarious mashup, including the house in New Orleans: https://youtu.be/2cINrWlfCPI

Posted by: Half Dozen at February 21, 2021 10:51 AM (8OHMQ)

LOL.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:27 AM (Qc+rX)

393 388 I've read Ann Althouse's blog maybe 4 or 5 times and the last time I did so, she was reading Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and she expressed outrage that Shirer lumped homosexuals in with the drug addicts and thugs and social misfits that surrounded Hitler. (Roehm was both gay and a disgusting thug and social misfit)That book was published in 1961, I believe. Shirer was pretty lefty and yet he (to Althouse's chagrin) apparently accepted the common belief that there was something perverse about homosexuality. Althouse, who is old enough to know better, seemed upset that a book published in the early '60's did not reflect "enlightened" views of homosexuality. What a naive viewpoint.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:26 AM (HabA/)

Mr. Shirer's book is...OK.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 11:28 AM (49Dnm)

394 Good morning, ya'll. Finished up 'The Emperor Charlemagne' (E.R. Chamberlain) the other day. Recommended if you're into biographies of that sort. This one is certainly no hagiography and does a good job of examining Charlemagne as evenly as possible given the available historical information.

About start 'Geronimo: Leadership Strategies of an American Warrior' by Mike Leach (yes, the football coach). I've already read Leach's book 'Swing Your Sword' and I highly recommend it for Horde perusal. Leach is definitely Moron Horde material.

Posted by: Bert G at February 21, 2021 11:28 AM (sAW0o)

395 The Catholic Church teaches that there is but one supernatural being--God.

So angels are natural beings.

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:28 AM (AwPyG)

396 AH Lloyd, is there any way to purchase LLD without giving Bezos a cut?

Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 11:28 AM (TigTd)

397 385 btw, it's not just the EO, but the RCC also teaches that every false god is a demon.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:23 AM (2BZBZ)

And a MONSTER???

Posted by: Communist Party of China, June 1966 at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (49Dnm)

398 Thanxs to a recommendation by Mark Anthony Edwards, I am reading One Second After by William Forstchen.
All too believable.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (axyOa)

399 Sure we can judge when it is time to put on our judging caps, but if you are trying to explain history, the only real thing that matters other than the facts, is what people thought about the facts at that time.
Posted by: Quint
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SJW's are especially adept at applying contemporary mores and cultural values to previous generations, and self righteously retro-condemning people. I can think of no better example than Robert E. Lee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (ELgVT)

400 Oversleep;
sleepover.
Very apropos this morning.

Another 'over' word:

Overdo
Do-over

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (seUPa)

401 the oddest book-related thing that happened to me this week is that amazon e-mailed me a coupon for $5 off a book that i already have, and they should know i already have: i bought it from them and it's sitting on my kindle.
Posted by: Comrade Anachronda,

You're inside the Matrix, Neo. Take them down.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (QjGTg)

402 In splitting with her husband, she tells him "we're on different paths", and "I've seen you when you're happy, and it's beautiful". Right. Nothing about "you flaming poof, WTH did you marry me?"
Revisionism, FTW!
Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (v16oJ)

Yeah, that's not how it happens in real life.

A good friend of the lively and delightful Mrs naturalfake found out her husband was teh ghey when their youngest child went to college and hubby moved in with his apparently long time teh ghey lover.

No, it wasn't all crumpets and tea and wisteria scented politeness. She was truly taken by surprise and felt abused, used, angry, and it kind of broke her a bit for a while.

That's really a terrible thing to do to someone.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (dWwl8)

403 Underdog/Dogunder

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (63Dwl)

404 Dickslap. Slapdick.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (nakwk)

405 last week someone talked about a non-woke online bookseller (non-amazon affiliated) but I forgot to write it down.

Does anyone here remember/know? I need to order a few of the "prepare for disaster' books that y'all have recommended.

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (Ed8Zd)

406 Not really book related but every time someone mentions Shakespeare I think of the Black Adder millennium special where he goes back in time to various periods. In one period he bumps into Shakespeare and drops his pen.

After the Black Adder returns to the "present" he mentions Shakespeare and one of his guests says "the guy who discovered the ball point pen?"

Posted by: Beartooth at February 21, 2021 11:31 AM (Cmo8b)

407 Diogenes, you will definitely want to keep on with the second and third books.

Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 11:31 AM (TigTd)

408 BBC has gone full woke. I expect every series to have at least one ghey character, and we will be reminded of it constantly.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (vOGqy)

And the BBC keeps getting that licence fee money somehow.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 11:31 AM (49Dnm)

409 Perhaps in his defense Mr Berger should just quote Biden's words in regards to China?

Posted by: Obligatory

"Those wacky Germans and their extermination camps! Joy! Somebody shit my pants again!!"

-- Joe of Scranton, The Usurper.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:32 AM (0bGEp)

410 383 Hi Ladyl!

Rained all night here. Cloudy and windy here on the beach. Good reading weather.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 11:21 AM (U2p+3)

All I saw was the word "beach."

Sigh...

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 11:32 AM (TdMsT)

411 Oddly enough there's no 'Y' in Cincinnati, but those balusters say 'Y' all day long.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at February 21, 2021 11:33 AM (QjGTg)

412 circleback. backcircle.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 21, 2021 11:33 AM (5br8a)

413 BBC has gone full woke. I expect every series to have at least one ghey character, and we will be reminded of it constantly.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021
11:20 AM (vOGqy)

They're currently running an historical drama about England in the time of Henry VIII and a black actress was cast to play Ann Boleyn. Really. No, this is not the Babylon Bee. Even some liberals are saying, like, WTF?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:33 AM (Qc+rX)

414 Thanxs to a recommendation by Mark Anthony Edwards, I am reading One Second After by William Forstchen.
All too believable.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Scary, isn't it? I was an early reader, as he is a local, and was a regular guest on local talk-radio.

It's particularly spooky when places mentioned are places that are a part of your daily life.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:33 AM (AytXr)

415 The Civil War is the easiest case in point although there are others. Every talking head and half-educated grade school teacher will tell you that The "North" decided to go to war with the "South" to free the slaves. A few percent of radical religious types aside, nothing could be further from the truth. It is not just a bad interpretation, it is a complete lie about all that went on during that war. Yet, somehow, it has become the standard level of info an American is supposed to learn.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:33 AM (Veofh)

416 @408

It's never reported in the mainstream, but there's a lot of unrest in Britain about the general oppression, including covid and the BBC as Pravda.

The natives are restless

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:33 AM (AwPyG)

417 I got some books at the thrift shop the other day (can't beat the prices!) So now I'm reading a Frank Herbert novella called "Heisenberg's eyes" which is quite dystopian.

Posted by: Funsize at February 21, 2021 11:20 AM (EiPf6)

Eyes of Heisenberg? That's one Herbert novel I haven't read and I'm debating whether to do so. My brain's still on sideways after reading The White Plague and that was decades ago...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 21, 2021 11:34 AM (ZSK0i)

418 Currently working on "Tower of Skulls". His style doesn't lend itself to be able to sit and read the book for hours at a time. I have to take it in 10 or 15 page bits.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at February 21, 2021 11:34 AM (VNmG1)

419 370 @363

I've mentioned this before, but the latest British production of "And Then There Were None" had a bunch of men stuck on an island in the 30's (between the World Wars) and they were all nearly hysterical that one of them had a gun in his luggage.
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:18 AM (AwPyG)

Ha! I've had the reverse reaction - when I read an English mystery written before 1940 and a character pulls out a gun, I'm always mildly surprised. "Hey, a Brit with a pistol! In London! Imagine that!"

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:34 AM (HabA/)

420 Thanxs to a recommendation by Mark Anthony Edwards, I am reading One Second After by William Forstchen.
All too believable.
Posted by: Diogenes
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That's was recommended; also the Civil Defense Manual by Jack Larson.

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 11:35 AM (Ed8Zd)

421 Folks interested in a deep dive on angels and demons, may want to check out Father Gabriele Amorth's books.

He was the chief exorcist of the diocese of Rome for a long time. Unique blend of the bizarre, the mundane, the miraculous, and the clinical.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 21, 2021 11:35 AM (B5IGS)

422 All too believable.

Posted by: Diogenes

Is that the one about an EMP attack on the US?

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:36 AM (0bGEp)

423 All I saw was the word "beach."

Sigh...
Posted by: Ladyl
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I know! I know! I immediately thought of all of my friends.

Posted by: DOCTOR Christine Blasey Ford at February 21, 2021 11:36 AM (AytXr)

424 I can think of no better example than Robert E. Lee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (ELgVT)

Good example. He was by all accounts a fine man, whose choice to fight for the South was based on things far too complex for the typical SJW.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 21, 2021 11:37 AM (Q9lwr)

425 Not really book related but every time someone
mentions Shakespeare I think of the Black Adder millennium special where
he goes back in time to various periods. In one period he bumps into
Shakespeare and drops his pen.

After the Black Adder returns to the "present" he mentions
Shakespeare and one of his guests says "the guy who discovered the ball
point pen?"

Posted by: Beartooth at February 21, 2021 11:31 AM (Cmo8b)

I saw the Black Adder Millennium special in the London Dome in 2000. They played that just a hop skip and a jump from Shakespeare's Globe Theater.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:37 AM (Veofh)

426
They're currently running an historical drama about England in the
time of Henry VIII and a black actress was cast to play Ann Boleyn.
Really. No, this is not the Babylon Bee. Even some liberals are saying,
like, WTF?
It's bait. When you object to such an ahistorical bit of nonsense, they get the chance to call you a bigot, and preen their moral feathers. Same thing with all the interracial couples in ads now.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:37 AM (v16oJ)

427
Is that the one about an EMP attack on the US?
Posted by: Sharkman
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Yes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:37 AM (AytXr)

428
I know! I know! I immediately thought of all of my friends.
Posted by: DOCTOR Christine Blasey Ford at February 21, 2021 11:36 AM (AytXr)

I'm laughing my ass off, beach friend!

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 11:37 AM (TdMsT)

429 AH Lloyd, is there any way to purchase LLD without giving Bezos a cut?

Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 11:28 AM (TigTd)

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If you buy a book direct from me, it's still printed by Amazon.

One advantage of going through Amazon is that you can leave a star rating and review, and that pushes it up the rankings, so people searching on the topic might actually find something truthful for a change.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:38 AM (llXky)

430 Shirer was pretty lefty and yet he (to Althouse's chagrin) apparently
accepted the common belief that there was something perverse about
homosexuality
In a 2004 Senate election the Republican candidate had been a hair dresser years before and the left found a video he had made instructing on how to do hair styling.

They gay-baited the hell out of him and the FNM tagged along.
The adoption of the notion of homosexuality as an unquestionable moral good by the left happened much faster then anyone could have expected, and modern "good thinking" liberals just pretend they always felt that way.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2021 11:38 AM (qlFIA)

431 77 ... On the other hand, I'm not much of a meaty
person.
Posted by: grammie winger at February 21, 2021 09:33 AM (45fpk)

Grammie, I like to think about it this way: I am what I eat, whether taken by mouth, eye, ear...

Just something to think about.

Posted by: Flyover at February 21, 2021 11:39 AM (Rbu5d)

432 Dickhead.

Head Dick.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 11:39 AM (TdMsT)

433 388 I've read Ann Althouse's blog maybe 4 or 5 times...

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:26 AM
(HabA/)

The last time I read anything by Ann Althouse was probably 2003.

Some writers never disappoint. Althouse, however, always disappoints.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:39 AM (Qc+rX)

434 That's was recommended; also the Civil Defense Manual by Jack Larson.

I'm trying to figure out why my brain read that as the Civil Defense Manual by Gary Larson.

Posted by: Old Blue - Round Headed Bald Kid at February 21, 2021 11:40 AM (VNmG1)

435 Nothing colder than a beach on a northern lake in winter.

Posted by: Archer at February 21, 2021 11:40 AM (6WGhr)

436 Diogenes, you will definitely want to keep on with the second and third books.
Posted by: RI Red at February 21, 2021 11:31 AM (TigTd)

I will.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 21, 2021 11:40 AM (axyOa)

437 Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Remind me, please, title of Spanish Civil War volume.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:40 AM (ELgVT)

438 Nothing colder than a beach on a northern lake in winter.
Pffffft.

Posted by: Hillary's heart at February 21, 2021 11:40 AM (v16oJ)

439 Suggestions for a book or two on the journeys of Lewis and Clark to Oregon and Washington please.

Posted by: nurse ratched

Undaunted Courage by Stephen E. Ambrose

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (0bGEp)

440 Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 11:08 AM (TdMsT)

I was surprised at how tiny Sharon is. She is absolutely adorable. Creeper is awesome as well and Ben Had is amazing. The Horde has the best collection of "little old ladies" in the world.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (1lKRm)

441 Buy the world a Woke!
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/
1363274857396412416

Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (d6he9)

442 That's really a terrible thing to do to someone.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (dWwl

---
It's a betrayal. When you cheat, it's still cheating, even if it is same-sex.

That's the flip side of "love is love," the one they don't want to address. If "love is love" than why do you have to leave? Why blow up your marriage and torment your children?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (llXky)

443 Snow melting away nicely here in OKC. Temps back to normal. The news drama has ended.

Posted by: Justsayin' at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (Fs5vw)

444 Franco's "Blue Division" was a stroke of genius. He got all his most troublesome supporters and shipped them off to get killed in Russia. No problems with anyone outflanking him on that side.

Posted by: Trimegistus at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (QZxDR)

445 Nothing colder than a beach on a northern lake in winter.
Posted by: Archer
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Good thing this is, you know, a sophisticated thread, and not the ONT.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (ELgVT)

446 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at February 21, 2021 09:11 AM (2JVJo)

It was a poor black slave from the sub-Saharan regions. Bill S had her chained in order to force her to produce masterpieces which he stole and fed her gruel.
Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 09:14 AM (ONvIw)

Yeah, I can't say I ever cared about the "Who wrote Shakespeare" question. It reeks of classism, and seems to create a controversy where there needn't be one.

Allegedly these days lots of Hollowood stories originate with someone sending in a script that has no copyright attached to it, and the powers that be reject it, only to have one of their hacks rework it, and make a movie from it. Apparently this has happened quite a bit to writers who eventually made it big, in or out of Hollowood.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (oQ94s)

447 SJW's are especially adept at applying contemporary mores and cultural values to previous generations, and self righteously retro-condemning people. I can think of no better example than Robert E. Lee.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (ELgVT)

Phenomenon referred to as Presentism.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:42 AM (2DOZq)

448
Remind me, please, title of Spanish Civil War volume.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:40 AM (ELgVT)

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Long Live Death: The Keys to Victory in the Spanish Civil War.

Link in nic.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:42 AM (llXky)

449 Not really book related but every time someone mentions Shakespeare I think of the Black Adder millennium special where he goes back in time to various periods. In one period he bumps into Shakespeare and drops his pen.

After the Black Adder returns to the "present" he mentions Shakespeare and one of his guests says "the guy who discovered the ball point pen?"

Posted by: Beartooth at February 21, 2021 11:31 AM (Cmo8b)

Heh. I was trying to find that special and finally realized it's Blackadder: Back and Forth.

Another Shakespeare tidbit: On his way back to the time machine, Blackadder runs into William Shakespeare ( Colin Firth ). He punches him saying "that is for every schoolboy and schoolgirl for the next four hundred years" and promptly leaves.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at February 21, 2021 11:43 AM (ZSK0i)

450 Whoops. Pep and others beat me by 150 comments.

Hard to believe Stephen Ambrose has been dead for 18 years. Everything he's written I have thoroughly enjoyed.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:43 AM (0bGEp)

451 Assume, to be on the safe side, that he is very likely a deeply damaged, ideologically obsessed and angry human being

Sage advice when dealing with the left in any context or setting. They may not be clinically insane, but are definitely mentally damaged and irrational. They may not be crazy, but they are driven close to it by blind religious zeal. They have become what they hated.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 11:44 AM (KZzsI)

452 Long Live Death: The Keys to Victory in the Spanish Civil War.

Link in nic.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd
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Thnx

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:44 AM (ELgVT)

453 By the way, the Rush Revere series of books are available for now on the Books a Million site. Get em while you can, as I can see a future where his books will be banned.

Posted by: Jen the original at February 21, 2021 11:44 AM (eflyC)

454 payback/backpay

Posted by: squeakywheel at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (iDGpQ)

455 Suggestions for a book or two on the journeys of Lewis and Clark to Oregon and Washington please.

Posted by: nurse ratched

I read the companion book to Ken Burns documentary...kind of a "for idiots" treatment but wasn't bad.

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (AwYPR)

456 404 Dickslap. Slapdick.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (nakwk)

Heh, no, sorry, I don't think 'dickslap' is a real word. Nor 'slapdick' for that matter.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (Qc+rX)

457 I've found the Rush Revere books at Ocean State Job Lot, but that is only a NE-based chain.

Posted by: squeakywheel at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (iDGpQ)

458 456 404 Dickslap. Slapdick.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (nakwk)

Heh, no, sorry, I don't think 'dickslap' is a real word. Nor 'slapdick' for that matter.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (Qc+rX)

Nonsense. I learned both those words here at the HQ!

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (nakwk)

459 Posted by: naturalfake at February 21, 2021 11:30 AM (dWwl

W.H. Auden wrote a great essay about Oscar Wilde in which he said the cruelest thing Wilde every did was marry his wife Constance, father children with her and then deceive her. Auden (who was gay himself) thought Wilde knew he was gay when he married (actually, I'm not sure he did) and that marrying her was a completely selfish and despicable act. I have no idea if Wilde knew or not, but I do know that poor Mrs. Wilde had a terrible time of it. Wilde has become a gay icon, but his admirers don't dwell on how much he neglected his wife, or on her sufferings after his imprisonment. She had to flee England and live on the Continent under an assumed name - and in poverty.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (HabA/)

460 SJW's are especially adept at applying contemporary mores and cultural
values to previous generations, and self righteously retro-condemning
people. I can think of no better example than Robert E. Lee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (ELgVT)

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Lee's decision was not universally acclaimed. Loyal officers (especially loyal *Southern* officers) did not think much of the man. That is also part of history. His decision to surrender won him much acclaim, so that criticism has been muted.

It is also worth noting that the US Army's enlisted ranks almost universally honored their oaths, even after their officers abandoned them deep in Texas and they were offered bribes to desert.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (llXky)

461 Nonsense. I learned both those words here at the HQ!

Right? Squeakhole is another.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (v16oJ)

462 One of Bidens stupid blacks trying to use the Internet
https://streamable.com/xlqvgs

Posted by: Jimco Industries at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (buTO7)

463 Not really in the realm of the World-Famous AoSHQ Book Thread reading list, but

Mack Jefferson - Invisible Resistance to Tyranny

https://tinyurl.com/y59xpqet

Almost
20 years later, it offers a prophetic look at today, describing a
tyranny of democratic mob, and offering a recipe for resistance.

I am about half way through, and it is kind of a paradigm-altering short read.

Posted by: 4 at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (KnJdm)

464 Thanks, Sharkman.

I did just order it. I need to rekindle the spirit of adventure in my soul. The not knowing what's next, the determination and joy of exploring and learning and living in the present. MY present. Not what others think is real, but what is real in MY life. Just living is grinding and boring.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (U2p+3)

465 I find that the current Catholic Church really resembles best the Anglican Lutheran Church he had so many reasons to leave.

FIFY

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:47 AM (2BZBZ)

466 SJW's are especially adept at applying contemporary mores and cultural
values to previous generations, and self righteously retro-condemning
people. I can think of no better example than Robert E. Lee.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:29 AM (ELgVT)

You hear it all the time now that R.E. Lee and other Confederates should have been hanged because they were "traitors". Funny, the people they harmed the most didn't feel the same way. In fact the US government put R.E. Lee on five USA postage stamps over the years. They declared his home at Arlington a National Shrine, it is still described that way by the U.S. Park service today. Grant's home is not a national shrine, though it should be.

I guess the phone tappers know better than the people who lived the history and bore the actual brunt of civil war.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:47 AM (Veofh)

467 Key and Peele: "Othello":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NPmWyqDBXw

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 11:47 AM (Dc2NZ)

468 Not that Chesterton was a Lutheran. It's just that the Novus Ordo Mass was intended to lure Lutherans.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:48 AM (2BZBZ)

469 Some writers never disappoint. Althouse, however, always disappoints.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional

She graduated from the Always Wrong; Never In Doubt School of Journalism that so many of our Chattering Classes seems to have attended.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:48 AM (0bGEp)

470 I need to rekindle the spirit of adventure in my soul. The not knowing what's next, the determination and joy of exploring and learning and living in the present. MY present. Not what others think is real, but what is real in MY life. Just living is grinding and boring.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (U2p+3)
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Much wisdom in this.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 11:48 AM (Dc2NZ)

471
Squeakhole is another.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM

some how, "holesqueak" doesn't quite work

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 21, 2021 11:48 AM (MIuvZ)

472 Allover, overall. I admit that 'allover' is weak.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:49 AM (ELgVT)

473 Wilde has become a gay icon, but his admirers don't
dwell on how much he neglected his wife, or on her sufferings after his
imprisonment. She had to flee England and live on the Continent under
an assumed name - and in poverty.

Posted by: DonnaV at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (HabA/)

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Didn't he repent after he left jail?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:49 AM (llXky)

474 131.... if you vote no, you hate children and education and science and shit.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 09:54 AM (ASLmA)

Yes, I dohate politicized science, indoctrination of children, and parents who hand over their childrento The State.

Posted by: Flyover at February 21, 2021 11:49 AM (Rbu5d)

475 One of Bidens stupid blacks trying to use the Internet

https://streamable.com/xlqvgs
Damn, that's hysterical. Kudos to the maker.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:49 AM (v16oJ)

476
Allegedly these days lots of Hollowood stories originate with someone sending in a script that has no copyright attached to it, and the powers that be reject it, only to have one of their hacks rework it, and make a movie from it. Apparently this has happened quite a bit to writers who eventually made it big, in or out of Hollowood.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (oQ94s)

It just doesn't matter if Shakespeare wrote every word. I'm sick of manipulations in order to give credit to the "right" groups.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 11:50 AM (ONvIw)

477 Just living is grinding and boring.

Posted by: nurse ratched

It is indeed.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:50 AM (0bGEp)

478 Ah! 'Cancan'. There.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 11:50 AM (pbStR)

479 Pickelhaube/haubepickel

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 21, 2021 11:50 AM (nakwk)

480 Okay, I read this in the past year, not last week. Dr. Taylor Marshall wrote "Sword and Serpent " a retelling of the story of St. George and the dragon.

Great fun.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:51 AM (2BZBZ)

481 "We doth not purchase it, Slick Willy! We doth not purchase it!"

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 21, 2021 11:51 AM (Dc2NZ)

482 I have very little book stuff to contribute, reading has been confined to "best dog gates" and consumer stuff.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 11:51 AM (ONvIw)

483 Squeakhole is another.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM

some how, "holesqueak" doesn't quite work

You have to stand on your head.

Posted by: pep at February 21, 2021 11:51 AM (v16oJ)

484 Just living is grinding and boring.

Posted by: nurse ratched

...and then you die.

Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 11:51 AM (AwYPR)

485 So last week the power was out and reading was just about all there was to do. I read several books, including some I'd read long ago, because my Kindle was out of power and I had to read from my collection.

One I read was Comstock Lode, Louis L'Amour's longest book. The first time I read it, I thought it was meh, because it felt like he was just delaying the story instead of telling it as it developed naturally.

This time through I appreciated it more, because the main character's actions made more sense to me. He just had grown out of his rage and need for revenge, was tired of his life, and was ready for a change, but wasn't sure how to go about it because he'd spent a decade hunting down and getting vengeance.

But something else occurred to me. Because I had nothing much else to do and had no realistic timetable on when there would be power back on (five days as it turned out), I was in no hurry to finish the book, whereas longer books usually annoy me lately in a sense of impatience.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 11:52 AM (KZzsI)

486 Converts (e.g. Chesterton, Taylor Marshall, Ann Barnhardt) are the best Catholics.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:52 AM (2BZBZ)

487 I would like to read that re-imagined Harry Potter book, but I'll have to wait for a hard copy, if one is coming. I've found that I can't sit and read for lengths of time on these damned infernal machines.

My Kindle sits, unused for well over a year, even though there are downloaded books sitting there that I really want to read. They just go to the back of the cue (an imaginary thing, that just means I have a shedload of books here, bought and unread).

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:52 AM (oQ94s)

488 The United States was also not fully united in WW2 as most think today. There was plenty of political and business discord during the war.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:52 AM (2DOZq)

489 Lee's decision was not universally acclaimed. Loyal officers (especially
loyal *Southern* officers) did not think much of the man. That is also
part of history. His decision to surrender won him much acclaim, so that
criticism has been muted.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (llXky)

I think I know what you are talking about. But that discussion is far into the weeds for most. I heard Lee was one of the few Southern Colonels to go with the CSA. But you are talking about a very small group there. Well over 90 percent of those who served, signed up to fight for their states and perceived country. That should not surprise really.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:53 AM (Veofh)

490 outlook, lookout

Posted by: Semi-engaged Scroller at February 21, 2021 11:53 AM (gYKMg)

491 Just living is grinding and boring.
Posted by: nurse ratched at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM

This is where my mind instantly went:
https://youtu.be/Ls_8cFgBUj4

Posted by: Bert G at February 21, 2021 11:54 AM (sAW0o)

492 She graduated from the Always Wrong; Never In Doubt
School of Journalism that so many of our Chattering Classes seems to
have attended.

Posted by: Sharkman at February 21, 2021 11:48 AM (0bGEp)

---
Althouse is fundamentally boring. You always know she will side with the Dems; the only suspense is the convoluted anti-logic she uses to get there.

I know a number of people like this. After years of frustration arguing with them I realized that politics is their religion. Amusingly, their religion changes its tenets on an almost hourly basis these days, but they have given their lives to it and the level of self-reflection necessary to leave is beyond them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:54 AM (llXky)

493
Just living is grinding and boring.

Posted by: nurse ratched

...and then you die.
Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 11:51 AM

the sun is the same, in a relative way
but you're older
shorter of breathe and one day closer to death

Posted by: P.Floyd at February 21, 2021 11:54 AM (MIuvZ)

494 Hard to believe Stephen Ambrose has been dead for 18 years. Everything he's written I have thoroughly enjoyed.

Yeah, definitely a great read every time. His book on building the transcontinental railroad (or, as Obama put it, the intercontinental one) is fascinating and wonderful.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 11:54 AM (KZzsI)

495 I bought a James Herriot anthology for the grandsons, and I'm toying with watching the new series. Diana Rigg taking the role of Mrs Pumphrey

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 11:54 AM (ONvIw)

496
[500 comment rule]

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 11:55 AM (r4bSV)

497 Government shutdown...
Shutdown Government...

I know this is not technically a compound word but it does seem to work!

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at February 21, 2021 11:55 AM (UUBmN)

498 Allegedly these days lots of Hollowood stories originate with someone sending in a script that has no copyright attached to it, and the powers that be reject it, only to have one of their hacks rework it, and make a movie from it. Apparently this has happened quite a bit to writers who eventually made it big, in or out of Hollowood.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:41 AM (oQ94s)

It just doesn't matter if Shakespeare wrote every word. I'm sick of manipulations in order to give credit to the "right" groups.
Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 11:50 AM (ONvIw)

I suspect it's like when two guys in a bar start a conversation about who their favorite baseball player is, and before you know it, a gentle, non-serious argument devolves into someone getting knifed to death.

These wankers started asking a question nobody needed answered, and now everything about Shakespeare is being re-examined, and as you say, everyone has their favorite "player" for whom they are now arguing to the death.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:56 AM (oQ94s)

499 @476

I think the script for "look who's talking" was stolen that way (there was a lawsuit, I beleive)

And Tess Gerritson's book "Gravity" was made into a movie with all credit being given to a screenwriter/director, and not to her.

The rule of thumb is that hollywood will steal your work but the book publishing people won't. Make of that what you will

Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:56 AM (AwPyG)

500 Converts (e.g. Chesterton, Taylor Marshall, Ann Barnhardt) are the best Catholics.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 11:52 AM (2BZBZ)

Im reading Catholics for Dummies and watching dr. Marshall, Fr. Altman and many others. So far it all makes much more sense, is more rigorous and more timely than I expected. I get to go to another Latin Mass today!

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 11:56 AM (Ed8Zd)

501 Wilde has become a gay icon, but his admirers don't
dwell on how much he neglected his wife, or on her sufferings after his
imprisonment. She had to flee England and live on the Continent under
an assumed name - and in poverty.

Posted by: DonnaV at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (HabA/)

So did he. He died as Sebastian Melmoth in France IIRC.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:57 AM (2DOZq)

502
biden been seen today?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 11:57 AM (r4bSV)

503 Video of black guy trying to use a laptop reminds me of one I saw where someone interviewed black people on the street about photo ID. Leftists assure us that inner city blacks could not vote if we required Photo ID, because those poor dusky people simply cannot understand or get one.

The people interviewed were less than amused.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 11:57 AM (KZzsI)

504 Right? Squeakhole is another.
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The movie with Alvin and the Chipmunks??

Posted by: andycanuck at February 21, 2021 11:57 AM (d6he9)

505 His decision to surrender won him much acclaim
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (llXky)

while history treated him well for surrendering and telling men to become good USA citizens again. His act of surrendering wasn't even close to what won him acclaim.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:58 AM (Veofh)

506 LASue,
Where is there a Latin mass around here??? I'm not catholic but I have friend this is.

Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at February 21, 2021 11:58 AM (UUBmN)

507 I believe it's the season finale for All Creatures great And Small tonight, those British series seasons are always so short. 6-7 weeks usually.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 21, 2021 11:58 AM (9d4A3)

508 I'm enjoying Ch. 8 of the Harry Potter book. A very familiar world if you've spent a lot of time in Silicon Valley.

Posted by: t-bird at February 21, 2021 11:58 AM (9Fwwf)

509 The rule of thumb is that hollywood will steal your work but the book publishing people won't. Make of that what you will

The rule of thumb being "yes, publishers will but are much less likely to, especially these days"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 11:59 AM (KZzsI)

510 These wankers started asking a question nobody needed answered, and now everything about Shakespeare is being re-examined, and as you say, everyone has their favorite "player" for whom they are now arguing to the death.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:56 AM (oQ94s)

An MSU English Professor friend used to say that they had to come up with new stuff, and Shakespeare hasn't written in quite some time.

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 11:59 AM (ONvIw)

511 payback/backpay
Posted by: squeakywheel at February 21, 2021 11:45 AM (iDGpQ)

As I sit here under the overpass, I passover most of these, but this is a good one.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:59 AM (oQ94s)

512 I think I know what you are talking about.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:53 AM (Veofh)

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Lee became lionized because it was politically useful for everyone. His most dastardly act was betraying his oath and making war on his country. He then set an example by laying down his arms and convincing others to do likewise. He then died five years later, and North and South found reason to celebrate him. One aspect of that is that legitimate criticism was ruled out of bounds, as Longstreet found out.

As to the cause of the Civil War, it was fire-eating Southerners who fractured their party over the issue of slavery, lost the general election as a result and then tried to leave. The Democrat Convention in 1860 is worth studying. One could argue that what the Dems did was export their party civil war to the country at large. Some things never change.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:59 AM (llXky)

513 The rule of thumb is that hollywood will steal your work but the book publishing people won't. Make of that what you will
Posted by: artemis at February 21, 2021 11:56 AM (AwPyG)

Paraphrased from a Rita Mae Brown book on writing:

In Publishing, the writer is king; in Film and Television, the writer is the hired help...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 21, 2021 12:00 PM (PiwSw)

514 LASue,
Where is there a Latin mass around here??? I'm not catholic but I have friend this is.
Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at February 21, 2021 11:58 AM (UUBmN)

St. Mary's on 10th. Latin mass is at 7:30 and 3:30. Bonus- almost no one wears a mask!

Posted by: LASue at February 21, 2021 12:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

515 In Publishing, the writer is king; in Film and Television, the writer is the hired help...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at February 21, 2021 12:00 PM (PiwSw)

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Did you hear about the dumb actress who thought she could get a job by sleeping with the writer?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 12:03 PM (llXky)

516 These wankers started asking a question nobody needed answered, and now everything about Shakespeare is being re-examined, and as you say, everyone has their favorite "player" for whom they are now arguing to the death.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 11:56 AM (oQ94s)

An MSU English Professor friend used to say that they had to come up with new stuff, and Shakespeare hasn't written in quite some time.
Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 11:59 AM (ONvIw)

Heh, I like that.

Although it does seem to mirror a tendency found in other parts of academia, such as gender and race "studies."

You people won. You got what you wanted. Now what? Now we're going to create fake problems, so you have something "meaningful" to say and do.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:03 PM (oQ94s)

517 Next week's word power word?
Suctorial.
Let's save it for when Kamala invokes the 25th....

Posted by: Dr. Vivi-Not my POTUS, FLOTUS, SCOTUS, FBI... at February 21, 2021 12:03 PM (USW1s)

518 Just living is grinding and boring.

Posted by: nurse ratched

...and then you die.
Posted by: BignJames at February 21, 2021 11:51 AM

the sun is the same, in a relative way
but you're older
shorter of breathe and one day closer to death
Posted by: P.Floyd

The rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at February 21, 2021 12:03 PM (VVEnO)

519 Lee was a very respected and honored man long before the Civil War, and the North courted him just as much as the south before he chose the south. Jefferson Davis was the same way, a statesman and honored, respected man by both sides before the war.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:04 PM (KZzsI)

520 while history treated him well for surrendering and telling men to become good USA citizens again. His act of surrendering wasn't even close to what won him acclaim.
Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:58 AM (Veofh

I agree. Taking exceptions in historic accounts and presenting them as the rule is also a problem.

Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 12:04 PM (2DOZq)

521 Did you hear about the dumb actress who thought she could get a job by sleeping with the writer?

That's where Heather Graham's character started sleeping her way to the top in Bowfinger.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (KZzsI)

522

bnnnnnoooooooodddddddd

noody nood

Posted by: will choose a nic later at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (r4bSV)

523
You people won. You got what you wanted. Now what? Now we're going to create fake problems, so you have something "meaningful" to say and do.
Posted by: BurtTC at February 21, 2021 12:03 PM (oQ94s)

They need the fields to change in order to crank out more papers and doctoral dissertations. Medicine, science, and engineering changes to seek improvements, it seems "liberal arts" including shit like sociology changes in order to break down and destroy the past and doesn't seem to build or understand

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

524 I bought a James Herriot anthology for the grandsons, and I'm toying with watching the new series. Diana Rigg taking the role of Mrs Pumphrey
Posted by: CN
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I have read all of his books. They are a marvelous escape from the constant upheaval around us today.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (ELgVT)

525 while history treated him well for surrendering and
telling men to become good USA citizens again. His act of surrendering
wasn't even close to what won him acclaim.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 11:58 AM (Veofh)

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It effectively put him off-limits for criticism. The South loved his victories, the North for accepting defeat gracefully and setting a good example.

Commanders who disagreed with him during the war (and there were many) learned to shut up.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 12:06 PM (llXky)

526 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:59 AM (llXky)

we have agreed on much over the years I suppose, and that will likely not change. I call it straight and so do you from all I can tell. But you give Lee short shrift by implying he became a USA hero/historical figure in hindsight, because it was simply wrong to criticize Lee. I will criticize him and have done as much here, he made mistakes like anyone else. But he was not a post war construction. He was the heart of the Confederacy for one reason and one reason alone, he won battles.

Longstreet was not treated fairly after the Civil War. But he also was not even close to the same league as Lee. I know some authors and pbs narrators love them some Longstreet. But the man was simply not at the same level of intelligence, military capacity, or the ability to inspire men in battle.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 12:06 PM (Veofh)

527 Tic Tac/tactic (if you accept tac is half of a tic tac)

Posted by: Rex B at February 21, 2021 12:06 PM (wrwK7)

528 If you really read what people were saying at the time and what they thought, Lee was everything to the CSA. His post war example was excellent, but it was only a part of it. He was to the CSA what Washington was to the Continental Army and the nation itself. There is a reason why Lee was revered at West Point well into the early 2000s, and it was not because "it was not allowed to criticize him". Just check out anything Eisenhower said about the man, it is in print and on video.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 12:09 PM (Veofh)

529 There's a Latin Mass up in San Fernando somewhere too.

There is one in Valencia, but it's by heretic sedevacantists.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 21, 2021 12:10 PM (2BZBZ)

530 Just check out anything Eisenhower said about the man, it is in print and on video.
Posted by: Quint
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And FDR, and Teddy Roosevelt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 12:10 PM (AytXr)

531 Additional blond agent,there was a note inside saying it was published under both titles at different times, so you are correct!

Posted by: Funsize at February 21, 2021 12:12 PM (EiPf6)

532 Commanders who disagreed with him during the war (and there were many) learned to shut up.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 12:06 PM (llXky)

most of them were bad at their jobs and they proved it in the field. But overall, I agree with what you said. But there was also the grudging respect he gained from USA soldiers through many horrible battles. It was not simply surrendering. Hell Joseph Johnston was the king of surrendering if that was all it took.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 12:12 PM (Veofh)

533
Mr. Shirer's book is...OK.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 21, 2021 11:28 AM (49Dnm)

I thought it was quite good because Shirer lived and worked in Nazi Germany in the '30's. He interviewed many of the top Nazis. So his eyewitness accounts are, to me, quite gripping. He conveys what it was like to be an outsider living in that madness.

Years ago, I read his autobiography and was quite disappointed. When it came to US politics, Shirer was basically a run-of-the-mill lib with nothing interesting or original to say. It was the usual "McCarthy bad, Nixon bad, GOP bad, Kennedys good, Adlai Stevenson good, Americans were too stupid to elect him, etc..."

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 12:13 PM (HabA/)

534 I have read all of his books. They are a marvelous escape from the constant upheaval around us today.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (ELgVT)

Very much so. Right now, however, I am using this thread to escape from any need to talk with my lib SIL, who is bothering my husband about social justice and wuflu. She's still wild about Cuomo and can't believe the "character assassination the right is using" Asshoe woman

Posted by: CN at February 21, 2021 12:14 PM (ONvIw)

535 I read a lot of the content.

Got off the phone with a friend - no Zoom or endless texting for us! - and we talked books. For no apparent reason, we both recently recovered our lost ability to concentrate. She sets a timer; otherwise she will keep reading instead of NECESSARY things.

I supplement purchases with library books. As others mentioned, our library is part of county- and state-wide loan systems.

One book I returned late and partially-read: Phillip Pullman's Daemon Voices, mostly transcripts on his talks on writing. I was curious about his intentions when he drove the His Dark Materials trilogy off the road, into a quarry, and lit it on fire. (Answer: He's a better writer than C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien combined. Any questions?)

Funny thing: I was the first person who checked it out. The cover was on upside-down. I emailed our local to let them know, since it was on too tight to take off.

As usual, one of the lovely librarians asked how I liked it. I didn't. I asked why it was purchased with a grant. The answer: Certain authors end up on a popular-checkout list. From then-on, their new books are purchased.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at February 21, 2021 12:15 PM (/+bwe)

536 I think people are confusing my point, which is not that Lee didn't deserve certain accolades, merely that he became an icon because one was needed.

How do you get Southerners to support the US military? Lionize their commander to an almost mythical status. He's dead, so it's perfectly safe.

And yes, I have read contemporary accounts and also Battles and Leaders, and you can watch the Lee myth take shape as well as read the dissenting views, which were subsequently buried in the interest of national reconciliation. Hence the claim that "everyone" respected him. Not by a long shot.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 12:17 PM (llXky)

537 I assume this is not the old man setting policy but his kids who now run the place. But holy shit the insanity continues. But my boots feels beautiful now with the new insoles and adjustments.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at February 21, 2021 10:01 AM (ASLmA)

But you went along with it. For ski boots? I'd have burned my skis in his doorway.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 21, 2021 12:18 PM (mzC78)

538 So did he. He died as Sebastian Melmoth in France IIRC.
Posted by: C 137 at February 21, 2021 11:57 AM (2DOZq)

Well, yeah. But she (and her children) were entirely innocent. Wilde didn't deserve his fate, but you can argue that his actions were extremely reckless. Suing the crazy Marquis of Queensbury to mollify Bosie was incredibly stupid.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 12:19 PM (HabA/)

539 I think the aftermath of the Civil War was not as cynical as AH Lloyd suggests. This was a nation torn to pieces by war, and people wanted to heal, they wanted to reach out and make the nation whole again. From the North's perspective, both sides were Americans, and hence brothers, no matter how angry or mistaken the other side may have been.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:20 PM (KZzsI)

540 I thought it was quite good because Shirer lived and
worked in Nazi Germany in the '30's. He interviewed many of the top
Nazis. So his eyewitness accounts are, to me, quite gripping. He
conveys what it was like to be an outsider living in that madness.

Posted by: DonnaV at February 21, 2021 12:13 PM (HabA/)

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Yes, I appreciated that it was a contemporary account. The subsequent flaws of the man don't really interest me.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 12:20 PM (llXky)

541 I think the aftermath of the Civil War was not as
cynical as AH Lloyd suggests. This was a nation torn to pieces by war,
and people wanted to heal, they wanted to reach out and make the nation
whole again. From the North's perspective, both sides were Americans,
and hence brothers, no matter how angry or mistaken the other side may
have been.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:20 PM (KZzsI)

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It was deeply cynical! Good grief, the North wanted vengeance and there was much debate on how to take it. The end of Reconstruction and the military occupation of the South literally turned on horse-trading the US presidency.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 12:23 PM (llXky)

542 Oh, there were those on the North who wanted the South to pay, and pay dearly for their perceived treachery. They wanted to make sure nobody tried something like that ever again.

But there were at least as many, and perhaps more (based on the Johnson impeachment trial, definitely more, if not by a large margin) who wanted to heal and fix things up, not stomp on the South.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2021 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

543 I'm back.

Just want to comment on the little OLD ladies comment. I don't see myself that way. And, I guess I sound bigger on the blog. (-:

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM (sd8p8)

544 >>>It is also worth noting that the US Army's enlisted ranks almost universally honored their oaths, even after their officers abandoned them deep in Texas and they were offered bribes to desert.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 11:46 AM (llXky)
---------------------------------------

Probably wanted to get away from that bug ridden hot house and go back to the cool.

Posted by: Braenyard, Patriot dog at February 21, 2021 12:34 PM (1XrCq)

545 Grantchester is a BBC series that featured a crime solving village vicar. He eventually had an affair with an old girlfriend who left her husband, and was friends with a closeted gay vicar. May still be running but I gave up on it, it was worse than what's been done to Father Brown.

Posted by: Lirio100 at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (uFOGo)

546 501 -an interesting movie about him was made starring Robert Morley, using the transcripts from his trial. They addressed that point, as well. His poor wife, his poor kids. the last line in the movie is genius.

Posted by: Dr. Vivi-Not my POTUS, FLOTUS, SCOTUS, FBI... at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (USW1s)

547

Just want to comment on the little OLD ladies comment. I don't see myself that way. And, I guess I sound bigger on the blog. (-:
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:31 PM (sd8p

You most definitely are NOT a little old lady! You are a firecracker! Wish you lived closer. We could cause some serious damage.

Posted by: Ladyl, Insurrectionist at February 21, 2021 12:38 PM (TdMsT)

548 I think the aftermath of the Civil War was not as cynical as AH Lloyd suggests. This was a nation torn to pieces by war, and people wanted to heal, they wanted to reach out and make the nation whole again. From the North's perspective, both sides were Americans, and hence brothers, no matter how angry or mistaken the other side may have been.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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The consequences of 'Reconstruction' bear on the South to this day.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 12:39 PM (9Fwwf)

549 {{{ladyl}}}

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at February 21, 2021 12:41 PM (sd8p8)

550 And yes, I have read contemporary accounts and also
Battles and Leaders, and you can watch the Lee myth take shape as well
as read the dissenting views, which were subsequently buried in the
interest of national reconciliation. Hence the claim that "everyone"
respected him. Not by a long shot.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at February 21, 2021 12:17 PM (llXky)

for sure not everyone. But that is a hell of a totem to clime if you want everyone to respect you. There were anti Lee books that came on in the 70s I believe. One was called "The Marble Man" Another was "Lee Reconsidered" if I recall the titles correctly. And then you have those who think Jackson was the greatest CSA general, and they have not been quiet.

Do I think they made a good point? No I don't, but I am happy to mention them at let people decide from themselves.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 12:42 PM (Veofh)

551 The book I mentioned was "Lee Considered" by Alan Nolan. And to be honest, I have not read it but I know about it. I might read it now since we got into this. I doubt it will change my opinion but I am always open to new ideas.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 12:46 PM (Veofh)

552
I think the aftermath of the Civil War was not as cynical as AH Lloyd
suggests. This was a nation torn to pieces by war, and people wanted to
heal, they wanted to reach out and make the nation whole again. From the
North's perspective, both sides were Americans, and hence brothers, no
matter how angry or mistaken the other side may have been.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

The biggest mistake some north of the Mason Dixon line make is the idea it was a civil war, or some type of rebellion. The CSA was a real country, there is no question about that. They had laws, taxes, foreign policy, etc. They buried their dead in national graves and the USA sent their dead to be buried in national graves. The CSA was a nation that survived only four years. That is why I always say the CSA and USA. There was no North and South. The states that remained in the USA did not all of a sudden become "the North". They were the USA.

Posted by: Quint at February 21, 2021 12:51 PM (Veofh)

553 Another firm of socialism
Why should my tax money be spent on something like that

Posted by: Proud moderate at February 21, 2021 12:59 PM (53pVB)

554 Posted by: Lirio100 at February 21, 2021 12:36 PM (uFOGo)

That was the series I was thinking of.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at February 21, 2021 01:05 PM (HabA/)

555 Grantchester was very good in the beginning. I tolerated the gay vicar but gave up when the main character left the church to go to the US with a black civil rights worker who was stirring up things in England. It was a step too far for me.

Posted by: AlmostYuman at February 21, 2021 01:08 PM (HY+BH)

556 The wonderful Sarah Hoyt has already gotten a couple of mentions but don't forget she also does fantasy/noir: Deep Pink (Magis Book 1)

Posted by: Alan Finger at February 21, 2021 01:39 PM (CSq16)

557 Is everyone aware of Baen Books being targeted by the mob, and Toni Weisskopf being uninvited as Guest of Honor for Worldcon? If not, it's worth searching just to read Larry Correia's blog on it.

Posted by: Bill Webb at February 21, 2021 02:34 PM (OhYcy)

558 Finished the last of the Great Tales of Middle Earth, The Fall of Gondolin, and am currently reading The Sand Sea, by Michael McClellan a fantasy set in an earth analog in the late 19th century involving a middle eastern prophecy and a group of explorers from the western countries. Only 15-20% of the way in so far, and our explorers haven't made it to the Sand Sea yet, but am enjoying it

Posted by: tintex at February 21, 2021 02:56 PM (32rLE)

559 I read the entire Harry Potter series, enjoyed it, and (mostly) enjoyed the movies.

Then I read the HPMOR fanfic, and decided that it was better; my main objection was that it wasn't long enough. I wanted something of comparable length.

Posted by: buddhaha at February 21, 2021 03:10 PM (0HqkV)

560 524 I bought a James Herriot anthology for the grandsons, and I'm toying with watching the new series. Diana Rigg taking the role of Mrs Pumphrey
Posted by: CN
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I have read all of his books. They are a marvelous escape from the constant upheaval around us today.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 21, 2021 12:05 PM (ELgVT)

This is why I am afraid about this reboot. Namely, that they're going to lard it up with a bunch of woke crap. Yorkshire will be chock full of trannies, gays, muslims, and furries. Especially furries. After all, it is a show about a veterinarian, right?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at February 21, 2021 03:20 PM (JXjyU)

561 "sword-and-sorcery/noir mashup"

Just finished reading Alex Bledsoe's Eddie LaCrosse series, which probably qualifies. I'm pretty sure there are others.

Posted by: MW at February 21, 2021 03:47 PM (gWtVa)

562 I saw the photo and said, that looks like the Cincy Library which the caption confirmed. I read a lot of first editions from the 19th and early 20th Century there that had been long forgotten and were on the general lending shelves. One of the great things about Cincinnati. (another is WGUC)

Posted by: Locke Common at February 21, 2021 04:45 PM (Rlbqb)

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