Sunday Morning Book Thread 07-01-2018

Cincinnati public library - 2.jpgCincinnati Public Library, c. 1926


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes. Oh, and we've got a new category of readers, escaped oafs and oafettes ('escaped oafs' is an anagram of 'Ace of Spades'). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, and publishing by people who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which makes me weep for America and wonder if our country's women will ever start demanding their men back.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

TITUBANCY is unsteadiness or wobbliness.

Usage: The titubant GOPe lurched into the November election like an ocean liner piloted by the 3 Stooges.



When Books Were Bad For You:

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In the days of *my* youth, it was Dungeons & Dragons that they were saying these sorts of things about.

(h/t Pessimists Archive Podcast)


Call For Submissions

'Ette author Elisabeth Wolfe sends me this call for submissions for a space Western anthology that she believes "our Horde authors, especially the likes of Sabrina Chase, would be interested in":

"The Rough", a Witty Word Press anthology:

Less than a decade after the American government launches its space force branch of the military, it makes its first publicized journey into space. The nation is at once skeptical and enthralled. Many scientists are anxious to explore space for its seemingly infinite potential, but the administrations of the US government are mostly interested in strategic military control of the space immediately surrounding Earth.

Private corporations begin drawing disgruntled ex-government scientists to their companies, promising them space exploration. As administrations change, the government becomes hostile to private competition--especially after the tragic crash of the private starship Ringo into the government-run space station orbiting Jupiter. The media goes wild, and most people are saying that this would never have happened if private companies weren't allowed to go into space.

The PSB or Private Space Ban goes into effect officially in 2035. Of course, there are some ships already out there--ships who can never come home.

50 years later, the government of the United States has collapsed almost entirely. The nation is in a sort of anarchy, with different sections of the country being run by separate and distinct groups. The New States (TNS) have varied interests in space travel. Certain areas have access to abandoned military equipment, including space monitoring equipment and ships. A large group of mid-western and southern ranchers, along with some scientists and engineers, disgusted with the recent state of Earth, decide to journey into space in search of a better life.

20 years later, most contact with Earth has been lost. It has become a wasteland with scatters oases of productive life. The pioneers from Earth have scattered--mostly on a few planets just outside the Milky Way. They are on their own, as no assistance from Earth can be expected, and the few alien races they've encountered are not as technologically advanced as they.

These rugged descendants of Earth have learned to survive on their instincts, strength, and their tight-knit communities. Threats are everywhere--plagues, famines, natives, even groups of bandits (descendants of those pre-PSB travelers).

*Stories for this anthology will be 9-12 thousand words.

*I will take six authors for this.

**PLEASE submit a paragraph about what you think your story will be about. EMAIL this to me at 2cutesocks@gmail.com

*I will announce the authors for this in one week.

*Deadline will be July 2019.

The Anarchist Cookbook

Back in the early 70s, a young radical named William Powell compiled a bunch of information about how to blow stuff up, make psychoactive drugs, and cause general mayhem and published it as The Anarchist Cookbook. It actually was a big seller.

Later on, though, Powell became a Christian and disavowed his earlier beliefs. He got married, raised a family, and devoted his life to various teaching projects in 3rd-World countries.

He asked that the publishing company stop publishing his book, but they rejected his request.

And then he it was revealed that he died about a year ago. This L.A. Times obit is pretty good.

I thought this was interesting:

In a foreword, Powell advised that he hadn't written the book for fringe militant groups of the era like the Weathermen or Minutemen, but for the "silent majority" in America, those he said needed to learn the tools for survival in an uncertain time. Powell himself was worried about being drafted and was an outspoken critic of the Vietnam War and President Nixon.

I guess it all depends on who's actually in the "silent majority".


Moron Recommendations

169 Book recommendation: Barbican by Phil Valentine, Nashville-based conservative talk show host. It's a spy novel, $4.99 on Kindle or read free with Kindle Unlimited. The main character reads like he's been lifted from the Moron Horde, and as a long-time listener of Phil, I'd be surprised if he hasn't lurked here a time or three.

Posted by: Rarity at June 10, 2018 09:56 AM (5WxYJ)

As of today (Thurs.), the Kindle price for Barbican: A Sterling McQueen Spy Story is down to $2.99. The Amazon brag-sheet/blurb says

Let’s face it, most books in the spy genre these days rely far too much on gadgetry and over-the-top stunts that only happen in the movies. Isn’t it time someone returned to the vintage spy novel? Barbican is a political thriller written in the mold of the old spy classics. Our hero, Sterling McQueen, shuns modern technology in favor of the more reliable standbys of human intelligence and his own keen power of deduction. This is a mystery/thriller filled with intrigue, layered with nuance, and peppered with more twists and turns than an Alpine highway.

Sounds like a good risk for $2.99

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A bunch of you morons have recommended the WWII memoir The Jungle is Neutral: A Soldier's Two-Year Escape from the Japanese Army by F. Spencer Chapman, and after reading the Amazon blurb, I can see why:

THE JUNGLE IS NEUTRAL makes The Bridge Over the River Kwai look like a tussle in a schoolyard.

F. SPENCER CHAPMAN, the book's unflappable author, narrates with typical British aplomb an amazing tale of four years spent as a guerrilla in the jungle, haranguing the Japanese in occupied Malaysia.

Traveling sometimes by bicycle and motorcycle, rarely by truck, and mainly in dugouts, on foot, and often on his belly through the jungle muck, Chapman recruits sympathetic Chinese, Malays, Tamils, and Sakai tribesman into an irregular corps of jungle fighters. Their mission: to harass the Japanese in any way possible. In riveting scenes, they blow up bridges, cut communication lines, and affix plasticine to troop-filled trucks idling by the road...

It is a war story without rival.

From the way it appears on its Amazon page, I don't think this book is still in print. New copies are insanely expensive, and there are many used copies. Abebook has used copies that are quite inexpensive.


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270 I have lately been reading James Ellroy's works. Most of them are noir books about crime(s) in '40s-'50s Los Angeles. Two of his books have been made into motion pictures -- The Black Dahlia and LA Confidential. The former adaptation is better than some critics believe, while the latter enjoyed critical and commercial success...

Posted by: Niall Brennan at June 24, 2018 11:28 AM (HcNNC)

James Ellroy's Amazon page lists many book. I'm interested in reading the two books Niall mentions, The Black Dahlia, and L.A. Confidential


Books By Morons

Moron 'Dr_No' is a new author who has published his first book, Living On New Orleans Time: Passing Moments As Seen From Life's Bayou, which is a collection of personal reminiscences of living and growing up in New Orleans.

They represent times and places that will always be in memory for me, and now that they're in print, you can enjoy them, too. Life, it's said, is either too short or too long. That, I imagine, depends on where we are at any given time. Some times are better - or worse - than others. We tend to remember only the better ones. If we're clever, tho', we can examine the ones that were the least enjoyable and find something worth learning from those experiences...... if you have the right mindset, it's 'New Orleans Time' no matter where you live. Allons!


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Don't forget the AoSHQ reading group on Goodreads. It's meant to support horde writers and to talk about the great books that come up on the book thread. It's called AoSHQ Moron Horde and the link to it is here: https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/175335-aoshq-moron-horde.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, rumors, threats, and insults may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:21 AM




Comments

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1 *dons pants*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:22 AM (gUCYC)

2 First!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:22 AM (Y9uH4)

3
I am going to risk the Barrel and post
this without running it through notepad first. Let's see how Open
Office works with Pixy.






Have been re-reading the Sword of Truth
series this week. Currently on the third book. I think though that
I am going to move on to something else after this one as I am
getting burned out on it. When I first read the series when you had
a year between books you didn't get burned out on them. It works
that way for all these multi-volume series. They should not write
any series that has more than three books in it anyway. The Sword of
Truth Series has 20 volumes in it. Far too many. The Wheel of Time
series had 14 volumes and a prequel. Also far too many. And also far
too many subplots.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 09:22 AM (mpXpK)

4 Dang.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:22 AM (Y9uH4)

5 So you finally managed to chew through the leather straps holding you in the "dungeon", OM?

We were worried!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:23 AM (gUCYC)

6 (hangs head in shame)

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:23 AM (Y9uH4)

7 Hiya !

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 09:23 AM (VGw3B)

8 In the days of *my* youth, it was Dungeons Dragons that they were saying these sorts of things about.


In mine it was comic books.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 09:24 AM (mpXpK)

9 Good Sunday morning, horde!

The pants I am wearing are of the stretchy variety, what one might use for yoga or exercise. Will they do?

Posted by: April at July 01, 2018 09:24 AM (e8PP1)

10 Tolle Lege
Finished Far Side of the World and well into The Letter of Marquee of Patrick O'Brien' s series.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 09:24 AM (pHfeF)

11 'Ette author Elizabeth Wolfe

I think she spells it with an "s".

Posted by: the German way at July 01, 2018 09:25 AM (Fhbqx)

12 Well Mad Magazine pretty much ruined me. I'm a mess.

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2018 09:26 AM (UdKB7)

13 Kablamo!
Ah, no first isn't any shame, It's a lot of luck and helps if threads are when you think they are.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 09:27 AM (pHfeF)

14 (hangs head in shame)
Posted by: Jak Sucio

Next time try having your pants on BEFORE the book thread posts.

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2018 09:27 AM (UdKB7)

15 "Her stupendous rack was tremulous with titubancy."

This is a useful new word.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 09:28 AM (hq7zy)

16 New Tracy Crosswhite Robert Dugoni book. Rereading Love worth making wife Mrs.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2018 09:28 AM (JFO2v)

17 Yes, still trudging (wo)manfully through Chapman’s “The Jungle is Neutral”. Since I’m at heart a 12-year-old I relish the bits about leeches, machete wounds, and faces swelled into giant bloated blancmanges by midge bites. Eeewwww! There are neat tidbits like, when batteries ran out, they could use fireflies and luminous centipedes in the reflectors of flashlights to provide subtle nighttime illumination. Also, who knew there were luminous centipedes?

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2015/05/28/4236577.htm

It's simply amazing how much physical discomfort Chappie and crew are willing to suffer for their mission. And yet they do, with aplomb. Chapman has said that having a sense of humor is absolutely vital and he deliberately sought out those with both stamina and good spirits.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:28 AM (gUCYC)

18 The pants I am wearing are of the stretchy variety, what one might use for yoga or exercise. Will they do?

Sure !

Pics ?

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 09:28 AM (VGw3B)

19 'Ette author Elizabeth Wolfe

I think she spells it with an "s".

Solfe ??

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 09:29 AM (VGw3B)

20 I always thought The Anarchist's Cookbook had to have been published by the FBI, because it's just enough information to get a violent radical exposed and/or killed. The following isn't an actual quote from the book, but it gives the idea:

"First, clean your kitchen sink real good. Then mix nitric acid and glycerin in the correct proportions to make nitroglycerin. At this point, you'll need to acquire some cellulose. Mixing nitroglycerin with cellulose is truly an art."

See, all those things are true, but not in a very helpful way.

Posted by: musical mountaineer at July 01, 2018 09:30 AM (ZRQJP)

21 >>"Her stupendous rack was tremulous with titubancy."

Damn straight.

Posted by: Abigail Shapiro at July 01, 2018 09:30 AM (8O3HH)

22 I read Magician by Raymond E. Feist. This is the first in the Riftwar Saga. Feist has created two worlds in which magic plays an important part. The world of the Empire causes a rift in space which allows them to attack the Kingdom in search of metals. This leads to a nine-year war. The book starts off in a very interesting manner, but then the main character, Pug, a magician's apprentice, disappears for a hundred pages or so when he is captured by the Empire's forces. The story finishes strongly, so I will probably continue with the series.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 01, 2018 09:31 AM (HLy+M)

23 My 15 y/o nephew was explaining Jordan Peterson to relatives... conservative Faux Nooz watching relatives, this weekend. They had never heard of Peterson.

Amazing.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 09:31 AM (cY3LT)

24 Good Sunday morning, horde!



The pants I am wearing are of the stretchy variety, what one might use for yoga or exercise. Will they do?

Posted by: April

Don't know April. Please stand a bit closer to your screen.
Thank you.
Umm. No. Take them off.

Happy Sunday!!


Posted by: Tonypete at July 01, 2018 09:32 AM (9rIkM)

25 Reading The Forgotten Man.. what a grand slog it is, too! go ahead and put me down for the same comment for the next 58 Book Threads.

Posted by: goatexchange at July 01, 2018 09:32 AM (YFnq5)

26 I think she spells it with an "s".

Solfe ??
Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 09:29 AM (VGw3B)



So that would make it "is."

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 09:33 AM (cY3LT)

27 Every page of "Jungle" is chock full of useful information if one were to be engaging in jungle insurgency (or any other pussyfooting in enemy territory). Like, go heel-to-toe on hard ground and toe-to-heel on soft ground.

His group learned to stalk silently enough to come within feet of their targets, but he said the controlled movements used muscles never before taxed and it could be excruciating at first.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:33 AM (gUCYC)

28 Many of these headlines, stories, and rumors of somethings causing violence in children start off to sound like some kind of Christian teaching but you realize underneath it is a strong current of Progressive Statism. Notice the answer is not more prayer or parenting but more STATE!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2018 09:34 AM (JFO2v)

29 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a productive/pleasant/puissant week of reading.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 09:35 AM (V+03K)

30 "I guess it all depends on who's actually in the "silent majority".
We all know whom that is. -wink*wink-nudge*nudge-

Posted by: firefirefire at July 01, 2018 09:35 AM (LVVMh)

31 Would like to see that library picture in the same tri pod position from yesterday

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 09:37 AM (pHfeF)

32 "The Forgotten Man" or "How FDR took a market crash and fucked the U.S. for 13 years."

Posted by: JAS at July 01, 2018 09:37 AM (3HNOQ)

33 I had a copy of the Anarchist's Cookbook when I was a lass. Got it from the sale bin at [now defunct book chain I can't remember -- Dalton's?]. Our barracks daddy was not pleased to see it on my bookshelf and took it away.

More as something fun to have on your coffee table, I guess, next to Martha Stewart Magazine.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:37 AM (gUCYC)

34 I finished Three Men in a Boat this week. I like that you can just read a chapter or two, and each chapter is independently interesting and funny enough that it doesn't matter if you kinda lose your place.

This morning, I bought The Mountain Throne by moron author A. Sterling. Looks like a fun read for a week that's going to be too hot to do much else.

Posted by: April at July 01, 2018 09:37 AM (e8PP1)

35 Twin Peaks fans: If you have not yet read "The Final Dossier," you aren't really missing anything.

It's supposedly a novel, but the thing is written like Agent Tammy is doing a report. It's actually written by Mark Frost, of course, the co-creator of Twin Peaks.

The text is amateurish, and I suppose that might be due to the fact that he's trying to write in Agent Tammy's voice. It's just dull though. They're filling in details of stuff we already know, and the few handful of "reveals" that do come out, they're not terribly necessary, they don't really spark any great interest, and you can find the info on the internet, if you want it.

So would I recommend the book? Sure. If you are a diehard Twin Peaks fan, and you want... the rest of the story, as they say.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 09:38 AM (cY3LT)

36 Millions of books to read.

Only one lifetime.

That's ...irritating.

Posted by: The Hot Gates at July 01, 2018 09:38 AM (+/OBU)

37 >>Millions of books to read.

Only one lifetime.

That's ...irritating.

--------------------------

And you know what's worse?

Posted by: Burgess Meredith in the Twilight Zone at July 01, 2018 09:41 AM (8O3HH)

38 Life is too short to waste any of it on mediocre books.

Posted by: JAS at July 01, 2018 09:41 AM (3HNOQ)

39 Has anyone here read Solzhenitsyn's Lenin in Zurich? Some gelded eunuch on Goodreads whined that Alexander never passed up an opportunity to make the chief commie look like a complete piece of shit. Well here's a firm dose of reality, Junior; having spent a significant amount of time in the Gulag for thought crimes gives a person the green light to unload on the cocksuckers who sent him there and fuck you for being too dense to understand that. Hell, I despise him without having directly suffered a goddamn thing from him. That said it's pretty funny how he's portrayed as a malignant worm who stabbed everyone in the back and was seriously mentally disturbed and insecure as hell.

Btw as I finished Dracula some, but not all, of my questions about his backstory were resolved. I'm glad I reread it from my high school days when it was used as an example of an epistolary work of fiction. Frankly I didn't think the individual voices were all that distinct other than Van Helsing botching the conjugation of verbs. But wow did it end quickly after all the buildup and made the point that as miserable as the Count was, that he was released from being undead as a reasonably Christian message.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 09:41 AM (y7DUB)

40 I just finished reading Part I of The Memoirs of the Conquistador Bernal Diaz Del Castillo on the recommendation of my fellow Morons.

All I can say is: wow.

I've read a lot of history (took it as a dual major in college), and even I was shocked at what the natives were up to.

The Spanish showed restraint, is all I'm saying.




Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 09:41 AM (cfSRQ)

41 36 Millions of books to read.

1 in 4 Americans did not read a single book in the past year. And people say we need more people voting!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2018 09:41 AM (JFO2v)

42 I'm conflicted on the series business. Too many, and the stories become stale.

On the other hand, a well-crafted world can sustain more volumes, so I guess it depends on the writing.

I like to be able to let go, though.

Posted by: April at July 01, 2018 09:42 AM (e8PP1)

43 New collection of short stories available!

Mutiny!

Link in nic.

I read Agatha Christie's Hickory Dickory Dock. It was a fun little mystery. Just the sort of thing to get through quickly.

I've also read most of The Samurai by Shusako Endo. It was a gift from my mother and it's very good

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone at July 01, 2018 09:42 AM (Jj43a)

44 The reading list this week consisted of: D-Day by Stephen F Ambrose, The Forever War by Joe Haldeman (yeah, highbrow literature for me) and am re-reading The Last Centurion by John Ringo.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:42 AM (Y9uH4)

45 Gabriel Said Reynolds, The Qur'an and the Bible

I am a huge Reynolds fanboy as can be discovered through my reviews of his work on Amazon. And he has generously cited *my* work, at least my translation of (((muh bro))) Frank-Kamenetzky : p. 20 n.32. So, you know - disclosure.

I didn't actually find this one on Amazon. I found it at Barbed Wire Books at Longmont, for 20 bucks. That's 50% off; where Amazon and, I think, Barnes and Noble wouldn't offer anything like that discount, as of yet. I suspect that a distributor had dropped this copy in the mud and stained its cover, and just sent it right to the 'used' market. As far as I am concerned this is 'a bank-error in my favor'. More disclosure.

On to the review:

We recently had HarperCollins issue to us a "study koran" but it was by Muslims who didn't step outside their line. As a guide to standard Muslim tafsir, I've recommended it. But I am only tangentially in the market for what ninth-century (mostly Iranian) Muslims made of this seventh-century text. I am more in the market for what a seventh-century (mostly west Syrian) audience would have made of it. This is the market which Reynolds serves.

Here, Reynolds is offering something like a secular Qur'anic-scholar talmud. He takes Qarai's translation as his base text, presenting that in large print. He then interjects, in finer print, where he or his peer-reviewed colleagues had found allusions between that pericope and Jewish-Christian literature. Consider this book an update of Samuel Friedrich Guenther Wahl's German translation in 1828 with footnotes, but in English.

Reynolds claims he takes no side on Claus Schedl's (197 "synoptische Problem" (p. 6). That's... my thing, figuring out the compositional order of suras. Unfortunately Reynolds himself assumes an order that is not the 'Uthmanic order, i.e. not of their appearance in our Qur'ans. So you will go to 21:51-70 (p. 510) and see an inline reference to 26:69-93. I do NOT LIKE when some author says "see below". The author should refer as far as possible to above, which the reader has (ideally) already read ("punch UP!"). I can only assume that Reynolds assumes that sura 26 > sura 21; with which I happen to agree, but in that case Reynolds should not have pretended to take no side earlier on. Or else he should have re-arranged the suras accordingly.

Reynolds also does not always tell us whence he gets his information. We who've been obsessing about this topic yea these many years will know, when Reynolds cites Q. 21:79's citation of Psalm 148, that this was known in the West since Wahl in 1828. Although... I am unsure how far I can criticise Reynolds for that. Wahl himself for all I know had used Biqai or some other Muslim (or Syrian or Spanish) scholar who knew both texts. It is a pain in the ass to delve that far back and to find whatever ancient nerd might have Claimed That Patent. (Christoph Luxenberg was another one who'd failed to cite, in his case, Barth for sura 37.) I will just warn those citing Reynolds, that you want to use a search-engine to ensure that you are in fact citing Reynolds and not someone whom Reynolds has here neglected to cite, himself.

Overall I class this as an essential reference-work although, I should like to see some stylistic corrections before it goes to [trade] paperback.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 01, 2018 09:43 AM (6FqZa)

46 In the days of *my* youth, it was Dungeons & Dragons that they were saying these sorts of things about.

Ahh, yes. Mazes and Monsters was an early Tom Hanks movie where he plays a D&D type game and loses his mind, believing the game to be real and his friends are all distraught. It came across like a 90 minute after school special.

I'm sure Tom was glad to get back to cross dressing with Peter Scolari and chasing Donna Dixon around the set of Bosom Buddies.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 01, 2018 09:43 AM (jp0Bv)

47 Life is too short to waste any of it on mediocre books.

Posted by: JAS at July 01, 2018 09:41 AM (3HNOQ)


Life is too short to waste any of it on mediocre books for mere entertainment.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 09:43 AM (cY3LT)

48 39 Some gelded eunuch on Goodreads whined that Alexander never passed up an opportunity to make the chief commie look like a complete piece of shit.

*Blinks

Wow. Hard to even know how to respond to that. I hope you did?

Posted by: April at July 01, 2018 09:44 AM (e8PP1)

49 I'm trying to "increase my word power" by using the wor raucous as much as possible. For some reason that word brings to mind the image of a troupe of drunken dwarves. I'm easily amused.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 01, 2018 09:44 AM (myjNJ)

50 Speaking of mutinies, I never knew there was a brief strike aboard the U.S. space station Skylab:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylab_mutiny

The workload was getting to be a grind and the boys decided to turn off the phone and just relax and gaze out the window for a day.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:45 AM (gUCYC)

51 James Ellroy's mother was victim of a still unsolved murder - that has a influence on his writing.

Posted by: josephistan at July 01, 2018 09:45 AM (ANIFC)

52 >> I'm sure Tom was glad to get back to cross dressing with Peter Scolari

It worked for me and Jack Lemmon. Some like it hot.

Posted by: Tony Curtis at July 01, 2018 09:46 AM (8O3HH)

53 Me this week: bio of Frank Capra.

He was a fascinating man, & in a few respects he had A Wonderful Life, but in many respects, not.

Capra was rightly proud of pulling himself up from the most impoverished background imaginable. But perversely, it made him detest his Sicilian roots & extended family.

Btw, his autobiography, "The Name Above the The Title," is chock full of whoppers.

So far I've read bios and autobios of John Huston, Michael Curtiz, John Ford, George Cukor & Capra. None of them had especially happy lives. Only Cukor died as rich as you would expect a famous Hollywood director to be. Cukor, who was as gay as gay can get, was also the most likable, imo.

Memo to future famous directors: quit while you're on top. Most of the movies made by these 5 men late in life detracted from their reputations.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 09:46 AM (Cssks)

54 "Her stupendous rack was tremulous with titubancy."

This is a useful new word.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero

Maybe, "Her stupendous rack contributed to her titubancy."

Posted by: Jean at July 01, 2018 09:47 AM (k5R6O)

55 One book I would recommend to the horde is William Manchester's The Arms of Krupp: The Rise and Fall of the Industrial Dynasty that Armed Germany at War (196. fascinating read that showed just how deep the corporations jumped in bed with hitler during WWII.

In today's context, there sure are parallels between our modern corporations and todays leftist movement.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:47 AM (Y9uH4)

56 "Her stupendous rack contributed to her titubancy."

...also kept her from drowning.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:48 AM (Y9uH4)

57 "Her stupendous rack was tremulous with titubancy."



This is a useful new word.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 09:28 AM (hq7zy)


from the definition, Titurbancy means the tits are not calm.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2018 09:48 AM (2K6fY)

58 Wow. Hard to even know how to respond to that. I hope you did?
Posted by: April at July 01, 2018 09:44 AM (e8PP1)


No, it would've been a waste of time to try and convince someone like that of just how wrong he is. I need to see a glimmer of intelligence before wading in with a contrary opinion so that I'm not set upon by a swarm of pesty retards.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 09:49 AM (y7DUB)

59 "One book I would recommend to the horde is William Manchester's The Arms of Krupp.."
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Fun fact: Krupp liked the smell of horse dung and his study was located over the stables so the smell of manure could waft up the vents and lubricate the wheels of his creativity.

Germans!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:50 AM (gUCYC)

60 Open Library has a copy of The Jungle is Neutral (PDF/ebook) available. I just joined the wait list. You need Adobe Digital Editions to download their books.

Posted by: Darin at July 01, 2018 09:50 AM (0lqvG)

61 Krupp, Mercedes, Porsche, etc actively worked with the Nazis and lefty nitwits luv them some German appliances. Yet PDT is worse than Hitler. I would bet most of those idiots don't know jacksquit about Hitler.

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2018 09:51 AM (UdKB7)

62 >> I never knew there was a brief strike aboard the U.S. space station Skylab:

There was a near "mutiny" on Apollo 7 as well. They all got head colds, and it was miserable. They got a little testy, to say the least.

Your sinuses don't drain in weightlessness.

They refused to put on their helmets during reentry because they couldn't blow their noses.

The brass didn't like it one bit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 09:51 AM (8O3HH)

63 So far I've read bios and autobios of John Huston, Michael Curtiz, John Ford, George Cukor & Capra. None of them had especially happy lives. Only Cukor died as rich as you would expect a famous Hollywood director to be. Cukor, who was as gay as gay can get, was also the most likable, imo.

Memo to future famous directors: quit while you're on top. Most of the movies made by these 5 men late in life detracted from their reputations.
Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 09:46 AM (Cssks)


Look up Preston Sturges. He lived an interesting life. His span of time as a top director was quite short, but when it was running, the was considered THE top dog.

I've seen documentary stuff on him, I'm sure someone must have written a book.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 09:51 AM (cY3LT)

64 Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:50 AM (gUCYC)
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He also kept the offices unheated to keep the drones working harder. Psycho.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:51 AM (Y9uH4)

65 Posted by: Darin at July 01, 2018 09:50 AM (0lqvG)
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If you call Hogmartin he will read it to you over the phone!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:51 AM (gUCYC)

66 46
In the days of *my* youth, it was Dungeons Dragons that they were saying these sorts of things about.



Ahh, yes. Mazes and Monsters was an early Tom Hanks movie where he
plays a DD type game and loses his mind, believing the game to be
real and his friends are all distraught. It came across like a 90 minute
after school special.



I'm sure Tom was glad to get back to cross dressing with Peter Scolari and chasing Donna Dixon around the set of Bosom Buddies.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 01, 2018 09:43 AM (jp0Bv)
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The source material for that was an incident at Michigan State University where one of the students went off and tried to kill himself in a steam tunnel in 1979. His parents attributed it to Dungeons and Dragons.

Lots of campus folklore grew up around people doing live action DD in the steam tunnels and of course in the pre-internet age, everyone had versions on just how many people were killed. I lived in the same dorm so we had all sorts of stories about where he got in and so on. Ghosts in the steam tunnels, etc.

The guy's name was James Dallas Egbert III.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 09:52 AM (cfSRQ)

67 62 >> I never knew there was a brief strike aboard the U.S. space station Skylab:

There was a near "mutiny" on Apollo 7 as well. They all got head colds, and it was miserable. They got a little testy, to say the least.

Your sinuses don't drain in weightlessness.

They refused to put on their helmets during reentry because they couldn't blow their noses.

The brass didn't like it one bit.

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That crew never flew again.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:52 AM (Y9uH4)

68 The pioneers from Earth have scattered--mostly on a few planets just outside the Milky Way

Do you mean "outside the Solar System"? The Milky Way is a large galaxy. If humanity is stuck to outer-rim worlds then the whole rest of the Milky Way must be barred from us by killer robots or a galactic man-eating empire or a space virus.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 01, 2018 09:53 AM (6FqZa)

69 That crew never flew again.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:52 AM (Y9uH4)

Clarification: The SkyLab crew never flew again.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:54 AM (Y9uH4)

70 63 Burt

I may get to Sturges one day. I think maybe Howard Hawks or D.W. Griffith next.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 09:54 AM (Cssks)

71 Lots of campus folklore grew up around people doing live action D&D in the steam tunnels

Neal Stephenson alluded to this in The Big U, that excellent campus satire which he's ashamed to bring up anymore for whatever reason.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at July 01, 2018 09:54 AM (6FqZa)

72 Just finished reading "Jefferson and the Tripoli Pirates" in which an American diplomat screwed up, what, until then, looked to be an incredibly successful prosecution of the war effort.

The more things change.....

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at July 01, 2018 09:56 AM (WEBkv)

73 Currently reading The World That Made New Orleans by Ned Sublette.

Not bad.

Posted by: mpfs, Super Elite at July 01, 2018 09:57 AM (wL0Xf)

74 I too am part way into Chapman's jungle.

Last week I noted that Chapman had to be the inspiration for the crazy Brit commando leader in The Bridge on the River Kwai -- both professors before the war.

Then I re-watched Kwai on TCM. There's an uncredited minor character named Chapman who dies in the parachute jump. Coincidence, I think not. Any more credit and they'd have owed him money.

"With or without parachutes?"

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 09:57 AM (pV/54)

75 The Internet Archive has The Jungle is Neutral.
I'm reading William R. Forstchen's "One Year After" and have the third of that series waiting in the wings.

Posted by: Lurker Extraordinaire at July 01, 2018 09:57 AM (GzSVe)

76 It's been an odd week for reading here. Lots of browsing and unexpected side tracks.

It started innocently with a library copy of "The Civil War Art of Mort Kunstler". His talent is staggering. But the book included some charcoal sketches he did. Such a simple medium and he used it to bring things to life.


That got me thinking about illustrations in Winnie the Pooh and Beatrix Potter stories. It's easy to forget just how effective there are. That led to "The Natural World of Winnie-The-Pooh: A Walk through the Forest That Inspired The Hundred Acre Wood" by Kathryn Aalto. (Long damn title.) I just started it but the author comes across as an 'Ette in waiting. And it has a lot of the Shepard illustrations (my favorites). If the book continues as good as the beginning I will probably get a hardcopy. The Kindle version is only $1.80

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 09:57 AM (V+03K)

77 Would like to see that library picture in the same tri pod position from yesterday

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 09:37 AM


I was in downtown Cincinnati a couple of years back. Saw the old train station, some signs of a slight resurgence.

But before we could get to area we that had to pass block after block of abandoned factories with busted out windows. Sad.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 01, 2018 09:57 AM (LOgQ4)

78 Your sinuses don't drain in weightlessness.

They refused to put on their helmets during reentry because they couldn't blow their noses.

The brass didn't like it one bit.
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Didn't Wally Schirra do a cold medicine commercial?

They must have been miserable.

From the t.v. show The Expanse I learned that low/zero g inhibits wounds from draining and healing. There was a big shootout with many casualties and the captain of a space station got the drum rotating to get real gravity to facilitate healing.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:58 AM (gUCYC)

79 In Re: to Krupp, did you know that they invented the proximity fuse?(I think) Did you know that even during wartime, we owed them 1.5 cents per fuse we built as royalties on their patent? And we PAID it?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:58 AM (Y9uH4)

80 I remember when D&D would turn you into a Satan worshiper and rock music would turn you into a drugged out maniac sodomite Satan worshiper. Good times.

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2018 09:58 AM (UdKB7)

81 I may get to Sturges one day. I think maybe Howard Hawks or D.W. Griffith next.
Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 09:54 AM (Cssks)


Seems to me, when we're talking about movie directors, much like well known novelists of a certain era, the twin questions that come up: how gay was he, and how communist was he.. the extent to which you get honest answers depends on who is doing the telling. Obviously.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 09:59 AM (cY3LT)

82 I found a copy of "White Tigers: My Secret War in North Korea" by Col. Ben S. Malcom while perusing a used book store in my AO.

Pretty detailed account so far and even has a few pics for the likes of me.

Figure with the coming insurrection, I better bone up on partisan ops and L-Shaped ambushes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2018 09:59 AM (EoRCO)

83 >> Clarification: The SkyLab crew never flew again.

None of the Apollo 7 crew did either. Schirra and Eisele left NASA not too long after. Cunningham stayed on, but he never flew again.

Chris Kraft specifically ordered they never fly again, and Deke Slayton apparently went along with that, even though that was technically up to him.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 09:59 AM (8O3HH)

84 RE: Call for Submissions -

I'm only a poor obscure author, but whenever I see these things come up, I can't muster the energy to do anything with them. I think it's because I do a lot of writing in my day job and my weekend job so while I'm sure that taking on one of these gigs will boost my overall sales, I'd be miserable while I was doing it.

Every book I've written has a cheat sheet where I keep track of characters, plots, description and so on. And at the top of each one I have printed: "Remember, this is NOT a job. You already have a job. You are doing this for FUN."

I'd love it if my books sold a million copies, but what good will that do me if I die of a heart attack or get an ulcer before it happens?

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:00 AM (cfSRQ)

85 Chris Kraft was a real asshole. Deke should have known better.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 10:00 AM (Y9uH4)

86
The Wiki article on Apollo 7 has the relevant transcripts.

You'll note Schirra basically tells Mission Control to go fornicate themselves.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 10:01 AM (8O3HH)

87 Still enjoying Jason Heller’s “Strange Stars”, which I recommend reading next to a computer so that you can pull up every song he references on YouTube.

Lester Bangs, on Amon Düül II’s song “Eye-Shaking King”: “overpowering the listener and turning his brain into the resinous extract of Burroughsian Mugwump spinal fluid”. The song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7ukYJX4s7E

My brain jelly maintained operational viscosity, but just barely.

I already put this book on my Amazon queue because I know I will have to check out every groove listed. Yeah, I keep saying “No more books until I finish what I have”, but I’m a liar and a junky.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 10:01 AM (gUCYC)

88 32

"The Forgotten Man" or "How FDR took a market crash and fucked the U.S. for 13 years."



Posted by: JAS at July 01, 2018 09:37 AM (3HNOQ)

I have that book in the kindle format. It is a great book and Amity Shlaes is fantastic.


Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 10:00 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 10:01 AM (mpXpK)

89 79 In Re: to Krupp, did you know that they invented the proximity fuse?(I think) Did you know that even during wartime, we owed them 1.5 cents per fuse we built as royalties on their patent? And we PAID it?
Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:58 AM (Y9uH4)

I believe the Brits invented the proximity fuse, early in WWII. Maybe you're thinking of some other artillery thingy.

Posted by: josephistan at July 01, 2018 10:02 AM (ANIFC)

90 I've got a book recommendation for all y'all: Saturnalia by Grant Callin. It's a pretty obscure book by an author who only wrote this book, its sequel, and a handful of short stories. It's basically a treasure hunt in the Saturn system. Callin writes in a very Heinleinesque way, although he sometimes goes a little over the top with the bonhomme camaraderie. Nice, readable, hard science-fiction.

Posted by: Jim S. at July 01, 2018 10:02 AM (ynUnH)

91 None of the Apollo 7 crew did either. Schirra and Eisele left NASA not too long after. Cunningham stayed on, but he never flew again.

Chris Kraft specifically ordered they never fly again, and Deke Slayton apparently went along with that, even though that was technically up to him.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 09:59 AM (8O3HH)


Imagine that. Government middle managers being vindictive pricks.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:03 AM (cY3LT)

92 I believe the Brits invented the proximity fuse, early in WWII. Maybe you're thinking of some artillery thingy.
Posted by: josephistan at July 01, 2018 10:02 AM (ANIFC)
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It's been years, but I may have it backwards. Krupp may have paid the royalty to the Brits. Either way, that just seems weird that they account for this during a life and death struggle. Accoutants.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 10:04 AM (Y9uH4)

93 "fascinating read that showed just how deep the corporations jumped in bed with hitler during WWII.
In today's context, there sure are parallels between our modern corporations and todays leftist movement."

A distinguishing feature of fascism is how it subverts existing institutions like corporations and subverts others like the Church.

Today, the Left is fascist and is expanding power with The Borg, the unholy alliance of BigGov, Academia, MSM and many corporations. The vanguard in corporations is the HR Department.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:04 AM (pV/54)

94 I checked Dean Koontz Midnight out of the library, as well as a few magazines.

I have been weeding out books from my library because I need shelf space for a printer and other things. I am also going cold turkey on Amazon, the main charge on my monthly credit card statement.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 01, 2018 10:05 AM (/+bwe)

95 89
79 In Re: to Krupp, did you know that they invented the proximity
fuse?(I think) Did you know that even during wartime, we owed them 1.5
cents per fuse we built as royalties on their patent? And we PAID it?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 09:58 AM (Y9uH4)



I believe the Brits invented the proximity fuse, early in WWII. Maybe you're thinking of some other artillery thingy.

Posted by: josephistan at July 01, 2018 10:02 AM (ANIFC)

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In the movie "Casablanca" where they do the dueling songs (great scene, btw) the Germans sing "Die Wacht am Rhein" because it was in the public domain.

What they should have sung was the Nazi anthem "Horst Wessel" but the studio would have had to pay royalties to use it. So they went with the other one.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:06 AM (cfSRQ)

96 ""The Forgotten Man" or "How FDR took a market crash and fucked the U.S. for 13 years."

The British depression was half as long and half as deep.

FDR got saved by WWII. It's an ill wind that blows no one good.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:07 AM (pV/54)

97 Pants, huh?

90 at nine a.m., so...

No.

Morning, y'all!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 01, 2018 10:07 AM (7LY+6)

98 Only book I can speak of is the new one I got this weekend: A KJV study bible. Part of my long overdue initiative to get myself right, as much as I can.

Posted by: Brother Cavil says at July 01, 2018 10:07 AM (lLeln)

99 Every book I've written has a cheat sheet where I keep track of characters, plots, description and so on. And at the top of each one I have printed: "Remember, this is NOT a job. You already have a job. You are doing this for FUN."

I'd love it if my books sold a million copies, but what good will that do me if I die of a heart attack or get an ulcer before it happens?
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:00 AM

That is an inspiration! John C Wright told me that writing is his parttime job, which also makes sense in the grand scheme of things.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 01, 2018 10:09 AM (/+bwe)

100 I can't wait for the Rs to pick up more Senate seats so we don't have to listen to Queen for a Day Susan Collins.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:09 AM (pV/54)

101 FDR got saved by WWII. "

And the GOP.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 01, 2018 10:09 AM (7LY+6)

102 Google is now training college students with their anti bias crap. One of the thing they actually teach is to wear a t-shirt or sticker on your computer to show your support to certain groups.

Holy fukn shit. I wear a t-shirt for jelly of the month club. I wear my disney princess half marathon shirts. They do not mean a GD thing. It is just a fukn shirt.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2018 10:11 AM (JFO2v)

103 Oh, I am also reading Eddie Rickenbacker's "Fighting the Flying Circus," having finally finished "Churchill's Generals." About half my reading selections come from here, the horde and OM's Book Thread. I love you guys.


Posted by: goatexchange at July 01, 2018 10:11 AM (YFnq5)

104 I am not a big fan of cozy mysteries as they are often too chick oriented for my taste. But I came across a series by Susan Wittig Albert about Beatrix Potter solving crimes in the small farming village she has moved to. There are even talking animals. They talk to each other, not to people. The book uses biographical aspects of Potter's life at that point. I'm only a little way into it but so far the book is charming. There is, to me, a real feel of Tolkien writing about the Shire and the local Hobbits in a light mood. I don't know if the book can sustain that feel or the others in the series but its enough to keep me reading for now.


The first in the series and what I'm reading is "The Tale of Hill Top Farm". Fortunately, the county library has all the series if I continue with it.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 10:12 AM (V+03K)

105 81 Burt

Gay? Only Cukor among the 5 that I mentioned.

Commie? All 5 were more-or-less standard issue liberals. Curtiz was a Hungarian Jewish emigrant & very hostile to authoritarian regimes, of which he had plenty of personal experience. Ford was president of the Director's Guild, & so he was inevitably dragged into the 1950s Hollywood red hunt, but he was not pink-- Admiral in U.S. Navy; observant Catholic.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:13 AM (Cssks)

106 96 FDR got saved by WWII. It's an ill wind that blows no one good.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:07 AM (pV/54)

It is debatable whether WWII ended the depression. It is impossible to tell whether the economy recovered when all manufacturing went to war materials. And government spending continued even after WWII. Is gov spending really a contributor to the economy since it is a circular item? Gov takes money from the economy and then spends it on gov desires.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 10:13 AM (mpXpK)

107 The James Dallas Egbert case is a lot more interesting than most people know. The kid was gay, which was still a problem for him at the time. He was a big fan of D&D and played games down in the university steam tunnels.

Then he chucks it all and runs away to New Orleans, where he can be as gay as possible, and get temp jobs working on oil rigs with lots of burly roughnecks. His parents are worried about him and call in super-detective Bill Dear.

Dear goes to Michigan, wastes a lot of time poking around the tunnels, plays some D&D with Egbert's friends and gives lots of interviews to the press putting forth his theory that Egbert has flipped out and gone full Gollum down there in the tunnels.

Egbert hears about it, contacts Dear, Dear arranges for Egbert to meet with his parents. Then Dear writes a book called _The Dungeon Master_ about how he cracked this incredible case by playing D&D and being a super-detective.

Novelist Rona Jaffe read about it, wrote her novel Mazes & Monsters, which got turned into a TV movie with unknown actor Tom Hanks as the missing kid.

Egbert committed suicide, because none of this helped the family and emotional issues that made him run away in the first place.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 01, 2018 10:13 AM (BS1PF)

108 71: The folklore is just that. The most notorious case I recall was Dallas Egbert a too young Computer Science student who was allegedly lost is a D&D game. In reality, he was depressed about his life generally, made a suicide attempt in the tunnels under MSU and was eventually found in Louisiana. I believe he tried a few more times and killed himself about a year later. D&D was blamed for the result od severe mental illness

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:14 AM (5gaNQ)

109 11 'Ette author Elizabeth Wolfe

I think she spells it with an "s".

Posted by: the German way at July 01, 2018 09:25 AM (Fhbqx)


Thank you, I corrected it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 01, 2018 10:15 AM (a1v7v)

110 Gay? Only Cukor among the 5 that I mentioned.

Commie? All 5 were more-or-less standard issue liberals. Curtiz was a Hungarian Jewish emigrant & very hostile to authoritarian regimes, of which he had plenty of personal experience. Ford was president of the Director's Guild, & so he was inevitably dragged into the 1950s Hollywood red hunt, but he was not pink-- Admiral in U.S. Navy; observant Catholic.
Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:13 AM (Cssks)


I wasn't speaking of those guys in particular. The general groupings of hollywood directors though, has its fair share of both.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:16 AM (cY3LT)

111 quote s unquote

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 01, 2018 10:17 AM (RuIsu)

112 @96

I meant it saved him politically and reputationaly The economy took a second steeper downturn in 1938, as noted in Forgotten Man. The New Deal had failed.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:17 AM (pV/54)

113 >> From the t.v. show The Expanse I learned that low/zero g inhibits wounds from draining and healing.

Gravity is something we take for granted -- big time. One g has been the background for the evolution of all life on this planet for billions of years.

And they're finding out more and more, just how much an environment different from that screws all kinds of things up.

The immune system doesn't function properly in zero-g. Fetal development wouldn't work. Bones don't grow right. And the list gets longer and longer.

So, humans need 1g +/- x, where 'x' is some tolerance. That value is really unknown, but likely fairly small.

Long term survival in anything other than 1g doesn't look too good.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 10:18 AM (8O3HH)

114 *waves at book thread*


I probably missed all the good stuff but I'll scroll up now.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 10:18 AM (fuK7c)

115 I wasn't speaking of those guys in particular. The general groupings of hollywood directors though, has its fair share of both.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:16 AM (cY3LT)
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Well, Buddy Bizarre was for sure. I mean, who can ever forget the musical with the unforgettable "French Mistake" number in it?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 10:18 AM (Y9uH4)

116 110

I only read about the most successful of them.

For commies, one needs to look to screenwriters, primarily.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:19 AM (Cssks)

117 TITUBANCY : I have this, some days more than others; walk like a drunken Irishman.

The anarchist cookbook. I had a copy but mother made it disappear because she thought it was The Anti-Christ Cookbook.

Too wet to plow, but not so hot outside. At least, for the moment. Later it will be too hot and humid to work outside. So it's book reading in the basement where it is a balmy low sixties.

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2018 10:20 AM (roQNm)

118 Google is now training college students with their anti bias crap. One of the thing they actually teach is to wear a t-shirt or sticker on your computer to show your support to certain groups.

Holy fukn shit. I wear a t-shirt for jelly of the month club. I wear my disney princess half marathon shirts. They do not mean a GD thing. It is just a fukn shirt.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2018 10:11 AM

One of my students loves to draw. She gave me a beautiful multicolored dragon, so I put it on the board behind my desk. Very pretty and her classmates love it. I am seriously thinking about framing it and hanging it up as a Rainbow Dragon if we ever get any administrator who wants us to hang GSA crap. (So far, we are not being forced to do it.)

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 01, 2018 10:20 AM (/+bwe)

119 107: Being gay was less of a problem in 70s Michigan than you think. MSU elected an openly gay guy as Student Body President in 1978. He had no big background in student politics and was elected as a show of student tolerance. I remember voting for him, but largely as the girlfriend of the opposition candidate was an asshole from a pushy sorority.Being gay was already developing some chic on campus. AIDS stalled that to some extent.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:20 AM (5gaNQ)

120 So as bad as the national DD hysteria was, the urban legend was pretty much ingrained in campus life by the time I got there in 1991. If you told someone you were playing Dungeons and Dragons, the stock reply was "you mean in the steam tunnels?"

The going story when I got there was that people were doing what we now call live-action roleplaying and someone got shot with a crossbow or killed with a sword. All manner of lurid tales were told about those steam tunnels.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:21 AM (cfSRQ)

121 Hi Bander!

Another wonderful anecdote from “Strange Stars": Funkmeisters George Clinton and Bootsy Collins chartered a boat for a fishing expedition in the Atlantic. “A couple days into the voyage, the boat found itself deep in the Bermuda Triangle. He and Collins had just taken some tabs of LSD, their fishing drug of choice, when a storm rolled in. It wasn’t a typical storm… instead of rain, drops of what appeared to be mercury began pelting them, splattering into silvery liquid droplets across the deck. Gripped by a mix of dread and psychedelic elation, Clinton suddenly realized what was happening. This wasn’t a storm. It was a visitation. A UFO.” Yes, folks, it was the Mothership come to take them home.

Bander, have you ever fished while under the influence?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 10:21 AM (gUCYC)

122 Thanks to JuJuBee for the suggestion on how to support books with a bum arm. It really helps. The elbow is improving but I still can't hand load or shoot so reading is an absolute priority for what remains of my sanity.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 10:23 AM (V+03K)

123 AIDS stalled that to some extent.
Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:20 AM (5gaNQ)


Someday, it just might be time to have a discussion on how AIDS, the thing that was going to be the end of civilization as we know it, has been a dismal failure.

Stupid lame AIDS. All it is now is another excuse for the pharmacological industrial complex to churn out bullions and bullions of pills.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)

124 Love the Left flipping out over Kennedy's replacement. Trump hold all the cards, thank you Harry Reid, peace be unto him.

They have to try to stop it, but that will only make it worse for them. Delay will only expose vulnerable D senators in November, and a bigger shit sandwich to eat.

Schumer et al. look ineffectual, which will energize the D crazies.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:25 AM (pV/54)

125 Hah! I'm still in my bathrobe, and you can't make me put on pants. Take that. Neener Neener Neener.

Hardly any reading this week, as I have been hit with serious cluster headaches. After Virtue will have to wait. So what reading I have done is just old favorites, including C S Lewis's Present Concerns. Amazing how many of them are still "present", as complaints that it's undemocratic to make kids take certain classes. First it was Latin (of course), next, per CSL, Math was taking the heat.

I did hear something from a friend. Many years ago, a girl we knew in college, and whom he and his wife still kept touch with married a guy who'd clerked for Scalia. Antonin S had gone outside to smoke, and another of our college group went up to him. Scalia said "I suppose you're going to give me grief for one of my opinions." Nope, Matt just wanted to bum a cigarette.

Posted by: George LeS at July 01, 2018 10:25 AM (59GGI)

126 I note that The Anarchists Cookbook comes with a disclaimer: Not for children or morons. Shucks!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 01, 2018 10:27 AM (/+bwe)

127 119
107: Being gay was less of a problem in 70s Michigan than you think. MSU
elected an openly gay guy as Student Body President in 1978. He had no
big background in student politics and was elected as a show of student
tolerance. I remember voting for him, but largely as the girlfriend of
the opposition candidate was an asshole from a pushy sorority.Being gay
was already developing some chic on campus. AIDS stalled that to some
extent.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:20 AM (5gaNQ)


---

This reminds me of a story...

When I was on campus (early 90s) it was understood that college was a really rude and uncouth place. No special snowflakes back then! I was in the marching band, which was a fairly raucus crowd at the time. After marching in the homecoming parade, we were walking back along the route shouting obnoxious things at the floats still going by (since we are at the front).

As we got to Dem Hall Field was saw this float turn come up and it consisted of a giant black bomb with sparkle paper fuse burning on the top of it like in the Bugs Bunny cartoons. Standing around this bomb were half a dozen women in black wedding dresses carrying dead roses. Printed on the float was: "Lesbian Avengers."

The band, which moment before had been offering cat-calls, horn riffs and other bad behavior fell silent and we all stared at each other. Was it a joke? Were these people *serious*? I was a freshman and wondered what the heck I had gotten myself into.

And then the float passed, we shook our heads and taunted the next one in line.

College was more fun back then and while rude, hardly the horror show people make it out to be today.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:29 AM (cfSRQ)

128 123: AIDS is a ghastly illness to see, and I have had the misfortune of having seen men women and children die from this monster. The medications hold it off but as it's a virus it could mutate beyond our current capacity to control it. I think it's underrated as a potential threat

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:29 AM (5gaNQ)

129 Bander, have you ever fished while under the influence?


Eris! I should clarify that when I say I'm going to scroll up through the thread I really mean I'm going to hit ctrl+F and type in "eris".

I don't much fish under the influence. Pot takes something away from it. I only did LSD a couple of times at a landlocked college. Drinking would be a disincentive for the two mile walks over sand.

I did that a couple of days ago, the miles over sand bit. And then the surf, ungrateful bitch that it is, tried to kill me.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 10:30 AM (fuK7c)

130 and affix plasticine to troop-filled trucks idling by the road...


*******


Plasticine is a synthetic brightly colored modeling clay used in kindergartens. I doubt if it did much damage to the Japanese troop trucks.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:31 AM (m45I2)

131 Someday, it just might be time to have a discussion on how AIDS, the thing that was going to be the end of civilization as we know it, has been a dismal failure.

Stupid lame AIDS. All it is now is another excuse for the pharmacological industrial complex to churn out bullions and bullions of pills.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:24 AM (cY3LT)

It was the Quilt that saved the world. There is no greater weapon in the arsenal of epidemiology than virtue signaling arts and crafts.

It's why so many on the left believe they can save the world with the proper use of paper mache.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at July 01, 2018 10:32 AM (jp0Bv)

132 102 Google is now training college students with their anti bias crap. One of the thing they actually teach is to wear a t-shirt or sticker on your computer to show your support to certain groups.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 01, 2018 10:11 AM (JFO2v)


I'm already doing that. Hence my SpaceX, RocketLab, People's Cube, and Pinochet shirts.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 10:32 AM (sdi6R)

133 113 >> From the t.v. show The Expanse I learned that low/zero g inhibits wounds from draining and healing.

Gravity is something we take for granted -- big time. One g has been the background for the evolution of all life on this planet for billions of years.

And they're finding out more and more, just how much an environment different from that screws all kinds of things up.

The immune system doesn't function properly in zero-g. Fetal development wouldn't work. Bones don't grow right. And the list gets longer and longer.

So, humans need 1g +/- x, where 'x' is some tolerance. That value is really unknown, but likely fairly small.

Long term survival in anything other than 1g doesn't look too good.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 10:18 AM (8O3HH)


Charles Stross might be a fuckhead over dumb shit like climate change but he convinced me that stubbornly insisting on manned space travel was an anti Galilean conceit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 10:32 AM (kg4Ij)

134 128
123: AIDS is a ghastly illness to see, and I have had the misfortune of
having seen men women and children die from this monster. The
medications hold it off but as it's a virus it could mutate beyond our
current capacity to control it. I think it's underrated as a potential
threat

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:29 AM (5gaNQ)


---

And think how many lives we could have saved if we had treated it like TB or every other deadly disease and required mass tests for it, quarantining those carrying it to contain the outbreak.

But no, that would have made people feel bad, so we had to let it spread...

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:33 AM (cfSRQ)

135 127: Yes. And the gay lesbian groups were very active even in the 70s, as were atheists, proselytizing religious sects, and all sorts of crazy political advocacy pressure groups. There were many competing groups and speech was pretty free, you ignored what you didn't like, supported what you did. We didn't melt in the face of disagreement

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:34 AM (5gaNQ)

136 Plasticine is a synthetic brightly colored modeling clay "

And porters with looking glass ties...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at July 01, 2018 10:34 AM (7LY+6)

137 Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:29 AM (5gaNQ)


---

And think how many lives we could have saved if we had treated it like TB or every other deadly disease and required mass tests for it, quarantining those carrying it to contain the outbreak.

But no, that would have made people feel bad, so we had to let it spread...
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:33 AM (cfSRQ)


Well, since it always has been and always will be MOSTLY a disease that self-quarantines (i.e. gays and needle users), I'm not sure such efforts would have done much good.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:35 AM (cY3LT)

138 124 Igno

You are more cheery about GOP prospects for the Senate than I am, for the moment anyway. There is virtually NO* polling data right now (at least that I've seen) indicating that the GOP is on a roll.

*Scott in FL & Cramer in ND are the exceptions-- they seem to be in good shape. But so is Sinesma (D) in AZ. Everything else is, "Can you guess what's in this little black box?"

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:35 AM (Cssks)

139 Louis L'Amour dime novels made boys ... become men that stood up for individual liberty, in the face of tyranny.

L'Amour's characters (iirc) tended to be incredibly self reliant, but with a quiet inner strength that only displayed its resolve in public when times/situations demanded it. Sometimes it was the quick gun, other times the raw abilities to survive harsh conditions.

we need more of those dime novels ... (or $5 self published novels might work in today's environment ... avoid the leftist controlled publishing houses and the Amazon or Times censorship ... )

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 10:37 AM (bT8Z4)

140 134: I agree with you. HIV was politicized when it should have been treated and corralled.

But now we treat TB like a badge of tolerance too. No one is locked away for refusing treatment.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:37 AM (5gaNQ)

141 AIDS is hard to catch, as it's really a blood disease, and so has a low spread rate. But it kills hosts slowly, which makes the hosts more effective carriers.

In the US, the key vector for spread is gay anal sex. You can do the math.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:37 AM (pV/54)

142 Fans of Greg Bear should note this two book series on sale for $2,51 via Book Bub today.


http://tinyurl.com/y77ggdea

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 10:37 AM (mpXpK)

143 author Elizabeth Wolfe

I think she spells it with an "s".



*********

Elizabeth Solfe?

That doesn't sound right.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:38 AM (m45I2)

144 Re Aids

I really would be careful of calling AIDS "lame". Even in jest..

I don't agree with "the lifestyle" but, when you have held the hand of a dying friend, whom you love dearly even though he is gay..your mind would change on its "lameness".

It doesn't win points for ourside..

Posted by: Catman at July 01, 2018 10:39 AM (cCkt9)

145 139 illini

A read a bio of Louis. He was a prodigious intellectual & incredibly meticulous about his craft.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:39 AM (Cssks)

146 In the US, the key vector for spread is gay anal sex. You can do the math.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:37 AM (pV/54)


There are lots of myths around how other parts of the world have other HIV that's just having a party with anybody that even looks at it funny.

There's not.

HIV is spread by getting banged in the bottom by a gay dude, or putting someone's blood in your veins by a self-enclosed devise, or occasionally... but not very often, being a female who is banging one of those two above.

Otherwise, no matter where you are in the world, you're pretty much safe.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:40 AM (cY3LT)

147 Howdy, Morons. This week I read The Mercy Prayer: The One Prayer Jesus Always Answers, by Robert Gelinas.

Gelinas points out that in the six or seven instances of people in the Bible asking Jesus for mercy, he always obliges. Gelinas also discusses the various translations of the words that have been mainly translated as "mercy." They're not to be confused with pity. They also include favor.

He points out that the Byzantines' habit of the praying the "prayer rope," or chotki, resurfaced after Vatican II and follows Christ's command to pray without ceasing. Monks originally held the knotted woolen rope, which ended in a tassel (for wiping away tears) as a constant reminder of praying -- for themselves and those they loved. The goal is for it to become a constant chant. (As we see the Left grow more unhinged, I always throw in a "Lord Jesus, Son of God, have mercy on this country."

A slim book and well worth the time.

BBL

Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 01, 2018 10:41 AM (ihzOe)

148 Didn't know about the Goodreads book club, trying to join now

Hi

Posted by: Clarencewhorley at July 01, 2018 10:42 AM (VgdaV)

149 137: But needle users turn tricks or demonstrate badboy chic and get laid by dumb girls who spread the disease even today. One of the most tragic cases I dealt with was a couple who found out their 6 month old was infected. Seems that daddy went to stag party and partook of the hooker who seemed to clean to worry about. Baby died, mom ended her life, last I heard of the stupid daddy he was hospitalized for an AIDS related psychosis and dementia...but that was over 20 years ago when people still routinely died of related causes.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:42 AM (5gaNQ)

150 139
Louis L'Amour dime novels made boys ... become men that stood up for individual liberty, in the face of tyranny.

L'Amour's
characters (iirc) tended to be incredibly self reliant, but with a
quiet inner strength that only displayed its resolve in public when
times/situations demanded it. Sometimes it was the quick gun, other
times the raw abilities to survive harsh conditions.

we need more
of those dime novels ... (or $5 self published novels might work in
today's environment ... avoid the leftist controlled publishing houses
and the Amazon or Times censorship ... )


Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 10:37 AM (bT8Z4)


His books are still selling quite well on Amazon. I have read all of his books either vi hard back or paper back but I am rereading some of them on the kindle now.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 10:42 AM (mpXpK)

151 Thanks to JuJuBee for the suggestion on how to support books with a bum arm. It really helps. The elbow is improving but I still can't hand load or shoot so reading is an absolute priority for what remains of my sanity.
Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 10:23 AM

I'm so glad it helped.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at July 01, 2018 10:43 AM (2NqXo)

152 Re Aids

I really would be careful of calling AIDS "lame". Even in jest..

I don't agree with "the lifestyle" but, when you have held the hand of a dying friend, whom you love dearly even though he is gay..your mind would change on its "lameness".

It doesn't win points for ourside..
Posted by: Catman at July 01, 2018 10:39 AM (cCkt9)


It's funny being lectured on care and compassion.

It really really is. Thanks for the laugh.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:43 AM (cY3LT)

153 'Yes, folks, it was the Mothership come to take them home'

They were going to name the boat "Psychoalphadiscobetabioaquadoloop" but it wouldn't fit so they just called it "Aqua Boogie".

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2018 10:43 AM (UdKB7)

154 @138

I'm cheery about the Senate because so many D seats are up, ten in states that Trump won.

I now expect the Rs to gain a bit in the House, because of trends. The Ds have only dick to run on, and are repeating their mistake of 2016: pushing issues that will only help in places that are already Deep Blue.

So a 3.5 foot surf-able Red Wave.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 10:43 AM (pV/54)

155

Prayer for 'mercy'.
Is that a prayer to be merciful with me in my transgressions?

Or please to make me merciful toward those who have transgressed against me?

Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2018 10:44 AM (roQNm)

156 But needle users turn tricks or demonstrate badboy chic and get laid by dumb girls who spread the disease even today. One of the most tragic cases I dealt with was a couple who found out their 6 month old was infected. Seems that daddy went to stag party and partook of the hooker who seemed to clean to worry about. Baby died, mom ended her life, last I heard of the stupid daddy he was hospitalized for an AIDS related psychosis and dementia...but that was over 20 years ago when people still routinely died of related causes.
Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:42 AM (5gaNQ)


Sorry. Daddy was gay. He was having gay sex.

He didn't get it from a female hooker.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:44 AM (cY3LT)

157 I'm always in the mood for history-related reading and I found two gems this week. The first is "Feeding Nelson's Navy" about the food available to the British warships in the age of sail. The author goes to the procurement records and personal accounts to dispell the hardtack and spoiled beef myths that still persist. So far it is interesting and reveals more about that era and the conditions on board ship than even O'Brian goes into in this aspect. The Kindle version is only $1.42

The other gem is the Cadfael Companion. This is an encyclopedic-style compendium of the settings and their history, characters and trivia dealt with in the stories. I've read and enjoyed all the Cadfael books and this volume makes a nice addition to browse through. I managed to find a used hardback copy for a few bucks.
The o

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 10:44 AM (V+03K)

158 Bander, I'm glad you keep a clear head while out in the elements.

While George and Bootsy were trippin' the light fantastic with the Mothership, their Haitian captain was down in the hold sleeping off a bender.

In the Bermuda Triangle.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 10:45 AM (gUCYC)

159 Plasticine is a synthetic brightly colored modeling clay used in kindergartens.

You mean Play-Dough?

I doubt if it did much damage to the Japanese troop trucks.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:31 AM (m45I2)


I wonder if they mean some kind of plastic explosive?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 01, 2018 10:45 AM (a1v7v)

160 141: Plenty of straight posters here talk about doing "butt stuff". Sorry, it can spread disease even with a seemingly clean female.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:45 AM (5gaNQ)

161 144
Re Aids



I really would be careful of calling AIDS "lame". Even in jest..



I don't agree with "the lifestyle" but, when you have held the hand
of a dying friend, whom you love dearly even though he is gay..your
mind would change on its "lameness".



It doesn't win points for ourside..

Posted by: Catman at July 01, 2018 10:39 AM (cCkt9)


---Please accept my condolences on your loss.

I don't think anyone was joking about the disease or the sufferers, the mockery was directed at the overblown threat that it faced to all civilization.

I was in high school when the epidemic became public and our sex ed and health classes basically said that everyone had AIDS, it was spreading like wildfire and in a few years it would wipe us all out. I even wrote a dystopian short story about the few straggling survivors.

None of that was true but if it was, the health establishment did exactly the wrong thing by refusing mandatory testing and physically containing the carriers. If that had been done, lots of people would still be alive today.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:46 AM (cfSRQ)

162 AIDS is hard to catch, as it's really a blood disease, and so has a low spread rate. But it kills hosts slowly, which makes the hosts more effective carriers.

In the US, the key vector for spread is gay anal sex. You can do the math.
Posted by: Ignoramus


Killed a lot of hemophiliacs and other people that had blood transfusions in the early 80's, before anybody really knew what was going on.

From my limited understanding, researchers are now discovering that "retro" viruses are more common than was ever suspected. HIV is a particularly virulent and deadly retrovirus. I have my own particular hypothesis as to how it came to be, but likely we will never know.

Retroviruses similar to HIV (but not deadly) have been found among primate populations.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at July 01, 2018 10:46 AM (S6Pax)

163 Thanks to writingRons who got me back to my manuscript I had ignored fo months because I couldn't make sense of it alas a whole, by telling me to outline it. I'm doing that and am finding it very helpful on many levels.

Posted by: Oversharer at July 01, 2018 10:47 AM (2CQCl)

164 160 I would take that banter with a grain of salt

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 10:48 AM (pHfeF)

165 Dear Lord,

Ferry me 'cross the Mersey...

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:48 AM (m45I2)

166 Really Burt.. Really?

Fuck you ... I am not lecturing you on compassion. Just the mindfulness that you seem to be a thoughtless asshole.

Posted by: Catman at July 01, 2018 10:48 AM (Jo0Kj)

167 Shit. OFF oversharer!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 10:48 AM (2CQCl)

168 156: Yeah, he did. And he also infected a few other women. The idea that this is only a gay thing is comforting, but wrong.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:49 AM (5gaNQ)

169 Retroviruses similar to HIV (but not deadly) have been found among primate populations.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at July 01, 2018 10:46 AM (S6Pax)


---
Robin Williams used to do a riff on that. He noted that one of the other STDs was supposed to have come from sheep and imagines the first carrier telling the other shepherds "You men go to town, I'll be all right here with the flock."

He then said AIDS may have come from monkeys and imagined a British explorer type saying the same thing.

Horribly anti-pc today, but that's why comedy is dead.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:50 AM (cfSRQ)

170 Really Burt.. Really?

F**k you ... I am not lecturing you on compassion. Just the mindfulness that you seem to be a thoughtless **ole.
Posted by: Catman at July 01, 2018 10:48 AM (Jo0Kj)


You're a fool who doesn't know what he's talking about.

But you keep going on as if you do. Please. I'm enjoying it.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:50 AM (cY3LT)

171 Gentlemen, there's no fighting in the Book Thread!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 10:50 AM (gUCYC)

172 For those still concerned about the Mandalay Bay shooting, new info & video of cops hiding in the hallway:

http://bit.ly/2yZgp2B


Morning all. Quick drive by while waiting for everyone to get ready for church.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at July 01, 2018 10:51 AM (J/LQs)

173 I highly recommend Ellroy.

I'm a huge fiction snob (yes, I've actually said "I rarely read American fiction writers, their work is a bit too mainstream for me") and Ellroy is one of my exceptions.

Posted by: shibumi at July 01, 2018 10:51 AM (AHNMM)

174 Take it outside, you two.

Posted by: April at July 01, 2018 10:51 AM (e8PP1)

175 None of that was true but if it was, the health establishment did exactly the wrong thing by refusing mandatory testing and physically containing the carriers. If that had been done, lots of people would still be alive today.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:46 AM (cfSRQ)

---------------

Somewhat related, back in the early seventies, I saw a special about sexually transmitted diseases on regular tv. The special was fairly detailed about the different kinds of STD's that were prevalent in the homosexual community at the time. Gonorrhea, syphilis, etc.

In other words, public health officials have known for decades about these problems but kept quiet.

Oh, and the station that aired the special? PBS

Posted by: Blake - used bridge salesman at July 01, 2018 10:51 AM (WEBkv)

176 Gentlemen, there's no fighting in the Book Thread!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 10:50 AM (gUCYC)

-------

And this would be the day that the bouncer calls in sick.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 10:51 AM (hq7zy)

177 I wonder if they mean some kind of plastic explosive?


Posted by: OregonMuse


*******

I suppose it is possible in some circles it is the term used for plastic explosives. In my mind, the only time I have heard the word is in Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds. Maybe the Brit Special Forces call it plasticine.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:52 AM (m45I2)

178 Agreed, take it outside the book thread please.

Posted by: mpfs, Super Elite at July 01, 2018 10:52 AM (wL0Xf)

179
Because of the recent controversy I began reading Little House on the Prairie. However, within the first couple of pages the glaring omission of gay, lesbian, trans-gender, and people of color stood out immediately.

With tears in my eyes, I tried to comfort my daughter, who witnessed how upset I was.

"Why is Trump doing this to the country," she asked.

"I don't know," I replied. "I just don't know. Nothing makes sense anymore."

Posted by: CheChe at July 01, 2018 10:52 AM (LOgQ4)

180 >> He didn't get it from a female hooker.

Most unlikely, but not impossible.

The transmission odds for a male having vaginal intercourse with an HIV infected female is about 1/2500 or 0.04%

For the female, it's double that, 0.08%

For buttsex, receptive, the probability is 1/70, or 1.43%

Fore the pitcher, it's about 0.1% to 0.6% for depending on circumcision.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 10:52 AM (8O3HH)

181 Yeah, he did. And he also infected a few other women. The idea that this is only a gay thing is comforting, but wrong.
Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:49 AM (5gaNQ)


You'll notice I didn't say "only" a gay thing.

But no, he didn't get it from "one time" with a female hooker.

Of that I'm about 99.999% sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 10:52 AM (cY3LT)

182 I also heartily recommend The Jungle is Neutral. I bought my copy on ebay for under 10.00 including shipping

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 10:53 AM (5gaNQ)

183 It's simply amazing how much physical discomfort Chappie and crew are willing to suffer for their mission. And yet they do, with aplomb.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 09:28 AM (gUCYC)

Yes, the British Army always included a daily ration of aplomb for its soldiers. "Cheerio, lads! Losing 95% of our men puts Tojo just where we want him!"

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 10:54 AM (9BLnV)

184 Yes the AIDS industry oversold its deadliness but it was really bad for certain areas of the country. In Grant Park in Atl. it was bad and as one of the few Republicans in the area, I had to witness its tragedy first hand.

Posted by: Catman at July 01, 2018 10:54 AM (Jo0Kj)

185 Anybody that is looking to get their hut burned down could write a true history of AIDS.

Medicine, science, money, emotion, BS, hysteria (a fine subject itself) BS politics.

Don't forget Patient Zero.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 01, 2018 10:54 AM (RuIsu)

186 I thought I would take a break from Three Men In a Boat and Pat McManus to give my side muscles a chance to recover from constant laughing. Yeah, so much for my intentions. Mrs. JTB came out of the library a few days ago with a book from their sale shelves. It's a hardcover simply titled "Hilarious Fishing Cartoons" by John Troy.


OMG! Anyone who enjoys fishing, or puts up with someone who does, will be laughing out loud at a lot of these cartoons. I had to put the damn thing down just to catch my breath. I'm limiting myself to a couple of pages a day to avoid ODing on laughing.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 10:55 AM (V+03K)

187 I enjoy the work OM does for the book thread.

Please don't ruin it.

Posted by: mpfs, Super Elite at July 01, 2018 10:55 AM (wL0Xf)

188 If your going to eat aplomb, joo have to eschew it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 10:56 AM (hq7zy)

189 So gay sex thread then? I got nothin'.

Where's Shep?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 10:57 AM (2CQCl)

190 167 Shit. OFF oversharer!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 10:48 AM (2CQCl)


Um, you're still oversharing. No one wants to hear about your dietary preferences.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 10:57 AM (sdi6R)

191 154 Igno

God knows I hope you're right.

I'm so old that I've seen a lot of bitterly disappointing elections. If one lives a LOONG time, life will teach one to be very cautious.

On a somewhat related subject, I see The Daily Beast has stopped comparing Trump to Hitler, & is now comparing him to Mussolini. So that's a step up.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:57 AM (Cssks)

192 Yes, the British Army always included a daily ration of aplomb for its soldiers.

*****


Private Jack Horner
Sat in the corner
Eating his daily. "rats"
He stuck in his thumb
And pulled out aplomb
And said, "Hmm, imagine that!?"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:57 AM (m45I2)

193 186
I thought I would take a break from Three Men In a Boat and Pat McManus
to give my side muscles a chance to recover from constant laughing.
Yeah, so much for my intentions. Mrs. JTB came out of the library a few
days ago with a book from their sale shelves. It's a hardcover simply
titled "Hilarious Fishing Cartoons" by John Troy.





OMG! Anyone who enjoys fishing, or puts up with someone who does,
will be laughing out loud at a lot of these cartoons. I had to put the
damn thing down just to catch my breath. I'm limiting myself to a couple
of pages a day to avoid ODing on laughing.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 10:55 AM (V+03K)
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My parents had a lot of McManus' books. Retch Sweeny was one of his go-to guys, right? Rancid Crabtree. Fun stuff.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:58 AM (cfSRQ)

194 On a somewhat related subject, I see The Daily Beast has stopped comparing Trump to Hitler, & is now comparing him to Mussolini. So that's a step up.
Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:57 AM (

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If things keep going well for Trump, they'll be comparing him to Francisco Franco by Christmas.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 10:58 AM (hq7zy)

195 OK, books. I'm still reading "Roughing It".

In my defense, it's a long book. In my other defense, I'm rather dim and it takes me a while to read things.

When I'm done I'm going to have to look up the circumstances of its publication. Parts of it are dead serious descriptions of mining life in the old west. Parts are tall tales. Parts are experiments at writing dialect humor.

I'm wondering if it's sort of like Dickens where somebody is paying for words by the pound and Twain is supplying them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 10:59 AM (fuK7c)

196 Bottom line?

Erections have consequences.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:59 AM (m45I2)

197
Um, you're still oversharing. No one wants to hear about your dietary preferences.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 10:57 AM (sdi6R)

Hey rickl I didn't know you could read. How the he'll are you/

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 10:59 AM (2CQCl)

198 Prayer for 'mercy'.
Is that a prayer to be merciful with me in my transgressions?

Or please to make me merciful toward those who have transgressed against me?
Posted by: Skandia Recluse at July 01, 2018 10:44 AM (roQNm)

Both! The pray-er is supposed to keep in mind that we will be shown mercy as we show it to others.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 01, 2018 11:00 AM (ihzOe)

199 Mpfs..I agree, I am sorry. Burt seems to
think I am a troll. Respectfully, he needs to rethink that.

Posted by: Catman at July 01, 2018 11:00 AM (cCkt9)

200 196 Bottom line?

Erections have consequences.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:59 AM (m45I2)

I laughed. Fuckin Muldoon.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:00 AM (2CQCl)

201 'The Daily Beast has stopped comparing Trump to Hitler, & is now comparing him to Mussolini. '

Phew.

Posted by: The Aztecs at July 01, 2018 11:01 AM (UdKB7)

202

Bottom line?

Erections have consequences.



Accidents cause people.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 01, 2018 11:01 AM (HaL55)

203 The Forgotten Man shows how easy money and several BigGov Fixes extended the depression, but EasyMoney was the cause, as late stages of the Roaring Twenties were funded with leverage and "irrational exuberance" about all that FreeLunch money.

We have the same today, but we bailed out the worst offenders of using leverage. LTCM was leveraged 300:1 (wiki says something like 50:1, but I think more subtle things make that much higher, or so experts I read explained it ... above my pay grade)

All those coastal "elite" millionaires got hit in the teeth when LTCM crashed (199, and they cried to their neighbor the senator and got bailed out, AT AMERICA'S EXPENSE. Now they are marching on to their globalist vision, to keep the easy money party going. The BigBanks were given even more power, even more with TARP, as (pawn) Obama moved in to complete the fundamental transformation into the NWO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uJ6djc12l8

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 11:01 AM (bT8Z4)

204 By itself, Kennedy getting confirmed moves the needle a bit, as the swing justice becomes Roberts.

But the Left is waking up that Trump will likely pick RBG's replacement, making Alito the swing justice. Let us pray.

And Breyer's old, and Sonia's unhealthy.

The more the Left scream, the more it will drive Evangelical turnout.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:01 AM (pV/54)

205 Most unlikely, but not impossible.

The transmission odds for a male having vaginal intercourse with an HIV infected female is about 1/2500 or 0.04%

For the female, it's double that, 0.08%

For buttsex, receptive, the probability is 1/70, or 1.43%

Fore the pitcher, it's about 0.1% to 0.6% for depending on circumcision.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 10:52 AM (8O3HH)


Numbers which are based on data that is woefully inadequate from the start. Estimates at best, and politically motivated made up nonsense at worst.

There is every known reason as to how and why infections occur, that explain why being the receptive partner is substantially more risky. There is mere after-the-fact speculation as to how and why supposedly "straight" men were ending up infected.

Most of which was explained by the fact that men lie when asked about how they are infected with nasty things that come from shameful behavior.

There was ONE specific study that was done on this topic, in New York, that went back and did probing (no pun intended) of men who were infected, and said their risk behaviors were sex with females. More than two thirds of them subsequently admitted to the researchers that they lied about their activities to the health department personnel who initially asked them. The overwhelming majority of them admitted to having receptive anal sex, and a not insignificant number of them admitted they were sharing needles with other iv drug users.

It is, and always has been exceedingly rare for men to get HIV infections from insertive sex. Not impossible, but extraordinary circumstances have to be in place for it to happen, including lots and lots of icky substances from the infected partner, that are not USUALLY present during sex.

But the myth that we were all susceptible was an acceptable lie... told to us by our government.

Imagine that.

But I'm a meany. And I don't know what I'm talking about.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 11:02 AM (cY3LT)

206 195
OK, books. I'm still reading "Roughing It".



In my defense, it's a long book. In my other defense, I'm rather dim and it takes me a while to read things.



When I'm done I'm going to have to look up the circumstances of its
publication. Parts of it are dead serious descriptions of mining life
in the old west. Parts are tall tales. Parts are experiments at
writing dialect humor.



I'm wondering if it's sort of like Dickens where somebody is paying for words by the pound and Twain is supplying them.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 10:59 AM (fuK7c)
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Twain went back and forth between serious and humor. Part of his style. His other travel books do it. "The Great French Duel" is juxtaposed with a discussion of the deadly serious German method.

He really didn't like Mormons.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 11:02 AM (cfSRQ)

207 181: Be as sure as you like if it's comforting. I did a good part of his initial psych assessment and I have no reason to doubt it was the "butt stuff" that got him and the hooker. She could not be traced, but plenty of prostitutes died or tested positive back then.

Heterosexuals account for about 25% of new cases despite the blessed fact that new cases are decreasing across the board. Fortunately plenty of people are still being tested and hospitals routinely test those patients whose chemotherapy will render them immunocompromised so they can add more antivirals (cancer patients get antivirals even if they test positive for Epstein barr or type 1 herpes)

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 11:04 AM (5gaNQ)

208 204 Igno

I think Thomas will be the next vacancy.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 11:04 AM (Cssks)

209 This is what others me about aids. Evidently it is a political disease because hear is government funding for aids research vs heart disease.


$26B/year on aids


$1.289M/year on heart disease the #1 killer in the US.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 11:05 AM (mpXpK)

210 I'm on it!!

Posted by: Shep! at July 01, 2018 11:05 AM (Y9uH4)

211 And Breyer's old, and Sonia's unhealthy.

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Would it be cruel to start a campaign where everyone sends The Wise Latina a stick of butter every week?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 11:05 AM (hq7zy)

212 Okay, how to get this thread off of gay sex and back to books...?


I know. As the gay congressman said, "Let's turn the page!"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 11:05 AM (m45I2)

213 197
Hey rickl I didn't know you could read. How the he'll are you/
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 10:59 AM (2CQCl)


Fine, thanks, considering. I'm about 3/4 through "Marked for Death" which was discussed here a couple of weeks ago. It's about WWI aerial combat.

In order to read books, I have to stay away from the internet. But then I might miss something.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 11:06 AM (sdi6R)

214 Muldoooooon!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:06 AM (gUCYC)

215 Sooooo, I'm reading Pragers "The Rational Bible" . I haven't spent much time with The Good Book and I like Denises explanations on his show. I like it.

Also, just started The Myth of Mental Illness. It was a recommendation by Jordan Peterson in one of his lectures. Interesting, but he makes his main point early on and not sure how the rest will play out.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:06 AM (2CQCl)

216 >> It is, and always has been exceedingly rare for men to get HIV infections from insertive sex.

Yes, and I would call 0.04% probability of transmission from female to male "exceedingly rare".

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at July 01, 2018 11:06 AM (8O3HH)

217 175 None of that was true but if it was, the health establishment did exactly the wrong thing by refusing mandatory testing and physically containing the carriers. If that had been done, lots of people would still be alive today.
Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 10:46 AM (cfSRQ)


Randy Shilts, in his AIDS history "And The Band Played On" blames the usual suspects (Ronald Reagan), but really slams the chief public health official in San Francisco who refused to shut down the gay bathhouses, even after it became known that promiscuous gay sex was a major vector for AIDS transmission.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 01, 2018 11:06 AM (a1v7v)

218 Starting a rerun thru the Vince Flynn novels. Seems even more appropriate today.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 01, 2018 11:07 AM (0tfLf)

219 Hey, Burt TC--

There is an excellent biography of Preston Sturges, "Between Flops." I bought it years ago in paperback, but it's now available in a Kindle version for $3.99. His childhood was, um, eccentric.

Another good book about Golden Age directors is "Conversations with the Great Moviemakers of Hollywood's Golden Age," compiled by George Stevens, Jr.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at July 01, 2018 11:07 AM (S+f+m)

220 NPR used to bang the "AIDS is increasingly a heterosexual disease" in the 90s until the overwhelming numbers made them drop that hot steaming pile of propaganda.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 11:07 AM (y7DUB)

221 A good day for the Haas F1 team. P4 & P5. Not bad at all.

USA! USA! USA!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 11:07 AM (Y9uH4)

222 I'm currently reading a McManus mystery about a bank robbery on the recommendation of the horde (the Tamarack Murders) and its pretty good so far, but I'm already sick of the phrase "the blight way"

Finished The McGovan Reader. This is an obscure book that used to be very popular, in the late 1800s early 1900s. Its about an Edinburgh police detective, short stories of his various most interesting cases. The book is presented as fact and for a long time it was believed to be real reminiscences of an actual detective. It turned out to be fiction, but was so well written and believable that it felt like the real thing. Conan Doyle, among others, were big fans.

Each story is well written and has a different feel. The characters behave in plausible ways, the author has a wry, dry sense of humor and clever way of putting things, the cases are interesting, and the detective while capable is very self deprecating and makes mistakes or follows the wrong clue fairly often then comes back to the right clue.

Some of the cases he never solves -- they sort of resolve themselves and he tells how it worked out and how they found out. I recommend this very highly to mystery fans, particularly Victorian era. Its sort of a set of procedural cases in the very early years of police detective work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:07 AM (39g3+)

223
On a somewhat related subject, I see The Daily Beast has stopped
comparing Trump to Hitler, is now comparing him to Mussolini. So
that's a step up.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 10:57 AM (



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If things keep going well for Trump, they'll be comparing him to Francisco Franco by Christmas.
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On the positive side, many under the age of 40 have no idea who Mussolini and Franco are.

Posted by: shibumi at July 01, 2018 11:07 AM (AHNMM)

224 Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:59 AM (m45I2)

I laughed. Fuckin Muldoon.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:00 AM (2CQCl)


Then stop fuckin 'im!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 01, 2018 11:08 AM (a1v7v)

225 Twain went back and forth between serious and humor.


******

Nope. To quote Joe Biden, "...twain went back and forth between Dover and Washington D.C."

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 11:08 AM (m45I2)

226 Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it yet since I'm going to scrutinize this thread later, but Susan Collins, on one of the Sunday shows, evidently said she won't vote for a SCOTUS pick who says he would reverse Roe v Wade.

Blech.

Let's see Mitch McCoCbrother play hardball with that ijit.

Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 01, 2018 11:08 AM (ihzOe)

227 There is an excellent biography of Preston Sturges, "Between Flops."

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at July 01, 2018 11:07 AM (S+f+m)


Sturges is a soccer player?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 01, 2018 11:09 AM (a1v7v)

228 Okay, I'm out.
I don't know how this became an AIDS thread and argument.

Everyone have a great day.

Posted by: mpfs, Super Elite at July 01, 2018 11:09 AM (wL0Xf)

229 Modern Language Assoc and their Boycott, Divest and Sanction ugliness. Librarians and their ahistorical Ingalls ugliness.

My mom was involved with both and I can just see her spinning in her grave right now.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 01, 2018 11:09 AM (MIKMs)

230 Kid Congresswoman Alexandria on with Chuck Todd.

She can become a media darling as the anti-Trump. I hope so. Will make for wonderful politic theater.

Will Chuck ask about her not really "being from" The Bronx.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:09 AM (pV/54)

231 He really didn't like Mormons.


That's one of the ways that books are fun time capsules.

When he makes fun of Brigham Young he's making fun of a guy who is actually alive at the time, running Utah, and populating it with wives.

A hundred and some years pass and now it's a real religion and it's not polite to make fun of it, but he was talking about a guy who was just a guy.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:10 AM (fuK7c)

232 Collins, MooKow and any other GOPe squish, can go to hell. They are anti-American a-holes.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 11:10 AM (Y9uH4)

233 Heterosexuals account for about 25% of new cases despite the blessed fact that new cases are decreasing across the board.
Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 11:04 AM (5gaNQ)


You're being lied to. By the CDC.

That number is extraordinarily absurd. Whatever percentage of "heterosexual transmissions" there are, the vast majority of them are male to female.

In other words, then guys are getting it from wherever they do, and then they give it to female partners. So the VAST majority of females who are infected, are indeed, getting it from heterosexual sex.

And the CDC purposely does NOT separate out in their data, who among the supposed "heterosexual transmissions" are indeed, male or female.

Conveniently mucking up the data. Again, for political reasons. Because they believe YOU won't care, if you don't believe "innocent" straight people are at risk.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 11:11 AM (cY3LT)

234 Just dropped in for a sec since I have work to do this morning.

"This morning, I bought The Mountain Throne by moron author A. Sterling. Looks like a fun read for a week that's going to be too hot to do much else."

Tell people if it doesn't suck!

Posted by: Apostate at July 01, 2018 11:11 AM (z2FAZ)

235 TITUBANCY = the state of having had your tubes tied

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at July 01, 2018 11:12 AM (2NqXo)

236 By the way, the Costner/Duvall film Open Range?

Based on a book of the same name by Lauran Paine, who has quite a few books. I've not read any yet, but my brother liked the ones he's read quite a bit. I'm gonna get some from the library when I can and see what he's like; I loved Open Range.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:12 AM (39g3+)

237 TITUBANCY = the state of having had your tubes tied
Posted by: JuJuBee



The state of having your tit in the wringer.

Posted by: rickb223 Super Elite at July 01, 2018 11:14 AM (J/LQs)

238 I know. As the gay congressman said, "Let's turn the page!"


I will throw in a trivium, on the condition that you rascals knock it off with the aids wars.

That congressman, Gerry Studds, spelled his name that way because he's descended from Eldridge Gerry. (Eldridge is still one of the prominent Cape Cod surnames).

Eldridge Gerry invented the form of redistricting which created a salamander shaped district, whence the word "Gerrymander".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:14 AM (fuK7c)

239 But the myth that we were all susceptible was an acceptable lie... told to us by our government.

Imagine that.

But I'm a meany. And I don't know what I'm talking about.

Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 11:02 AM (cY3LT)

...and promoted by the Gay Pride movenemmt to make HIV into more heterosexual disease also, in order to get funding for AIDs,which really very rarely affected heterosexuals. Scare tactic. Typical liberal shit.


...and now I'm sucked into the gay sex thing.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:14 AM (2CQCl)

240 Conveniently mucking up the data. Again, for political reasons. Because they believe YOU won't care, if you don't believe "innocent" straight people are at risk.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 01, 2018 11:11 AM

Guys on the down low. (Watch out, Moochelle. What am I saying? he doesn't sleep with her.)

Cheating on your partner is a health issue because you could pass along any number of nasty and not-so-nasty bugs.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at July 01, 2018 11:14 AM (2NqXo)

241 Collins also said she "has no litmus test."

She & Murkowski had a private meeting with Trump last week to discuss SCOTUS. My guess would be that Trump asked, "Are there any names on the list you could not support? If so, just tell me who they are. There are 25 names. We can do a workaround."

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 11:15 AM (Cssks)

242
...and now I'm sucked into the gay sex thing.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:14 AM (2CQCl)

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That's usually how it starts, or so I've heard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 11:15 AM (hq7zy)

243 Good morning oh so literary and erudite Horde. Writing again, added about 500 words to the 89,000 word San Francisco sci-fi story. Ditched a scene because a different ending presented itself.

Saw last night on the on the ONT a reference to Aztecs and skulls. So pulled out The Pleasures of Archeology by Karl E. Meyer. Book has a chapter devoted to Mexico. At birth every midwife would tell every Aztec male the following - "My very loved and tender son, here is the doctrine that was given to us by the gods. The place where you were born is not your true house because you are a solider and a servant of the gods ... Your obligation is to give the sun the blood of your enemies to drink, and to feed the earth with the corpses of your opponents."*

Then continued reading through the rest of the book through Egypt and read a bit of Kipling about Cheops' Pyramid that may make its way into the Alexandria novel with Catherine and Diana if I can date when it was penned.

Finally on pg 285 a Cambridge historian in 1969 by the name of J.H. Plumb had this to say about the nascent Afro-American studies movement - It is interesting that the last two years have witnessed a determination amongst the blacks to acquire a past of their own. Like many a white past, it has little to do with history. ... The same development occurred in Ghana, where murals were painted to show how Ghana had invented the alphabet and the steam-engine. There is no need for laughter and none to sneer; all the white pasts have made assumptions equally outrageous and for exactly the same purpose - to create both confidence and a sense of special virtue."**

*Why am I reminded of Islam's House of War by this passage?

**I immediately thought again of Islam.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:16 AM (zOmHx)

244 "I think Thomas will be the next vacancy."

Yes. But replacing RBG really moves the needle.

With two terms, Trump could pick six justices.

Someone should whisper that in Hillary's ear every day,

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:18 AM (pV/54)

245 Both! The pray-er is supposed to keep in mind that we will be shown mercy as we show it to others.
Posted by: SandyCheeks at July 01, 2018 11:00 AM (ihzOe)

But, you have to be cruel to be kind. Is decapitation of an SJW not mercy to those that have to put up with them? Think of the children!

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:18 AM (9BLnV)

246 The Democrats know that they alone can not block a Trump SCOTUS pick and they have been trying to break off MooKow and Colans all week. If they can do that and they vote in lockstep they will block ANY pick.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 11:18 AM (mpXpK)

247 Sure, Ghana had the steam engine but computerized axial tomography was ours.

Posted by: Cameroon at July 01, 2018 11:18 AM (hq7zy)

248 (211) And low rent bacon.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 01, 2018 11:19 AM (RuIsu)

249
That's usually how it starts, or so I've heard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 11:15 AM (hq7zy)

Lol. I hit Post and thought. Damn.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:19 AM (2CQCl)

250 243
Good morning oh so literary and erudite Horde. Writing again, added
about 500 words to the 89,000 word San Francisco sci-fi story. Ditched a
scene because a different ending presented itself.
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You may want to think about breaking that into two books if it gets any longer.

Everyone loves a series, especially authors who get twice the royalties from the same work.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 11:20 AM (cfSRQ)

251 Also reading an old pulp/supernatural series of short stories about a French character named Pierre D'Artois, by E. Hoffmann Price. They're really obscure and the character is called an "occult detective" although mostly he's just a rakish adventurer and fencer from the late 1800s. They're pretty clever and interesting stories. I love to find old forgotten gems like this, stuff that was great and loved, then people sort of lost track of over time. I mean, Sherlock Holmes probably would have been forgotten eventually too if the movies and such hadn't come out.

A previous pulp book I read was Sax Rohmer's "Trail of Fu Manchu" which was the pulpiest thing I've ever read. It was so lurid and sensational and dramatic every page was like a punch in the face. It felt like a serial from magazines because every chapter ended on some cliffhanger or dramatic note, you could practically hear the dramatic music playing. Dunhn dunn dunnnnnn

I guess some could find the portrayal of the Chinese and other various ethnic groups somewhat stereotypical, but overall they're very skilled, smart, capable, and even frightening. Fu Manchu himself is incredibly dangerous and capable, even to the point of being able to read surface thoughts, and he uses a serum to stay alive at well over 100 years of age. And of course he's a deadly martial artist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:21 AM (39g3+)

252 I start an all meat diet today.

**ok now that sounds wrong too*

Damn gay sex thread.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:21 AM (2CQCl)

253 BTW Trump has openly stated he has not asked any of his potentials as to their opinion on Roe v Wade. But you can bet that the Democrats will when interviewing whoever he picks. But I suspect a smart pick will either say "settled law" or can't comment on a potential ruling on any issue with the facts of the pending case.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 11:21 AM (mpXpK)

254 no pants...in a dress for church...

Posted by: lin-duh at July 01, 2018 11:21 AM (kufk0)

255 252, Cannibal Bob, I started low carb keto hybrid diet last week. first few days were hard but my system seems to have adjusted now.

Posted by: IC at July 01, 2018 11:23 AM (PEJUg)

256 "If they can do that and they vote in lockstep they will block ANY pick."

But we'll likely see a R gain of five or six in the Senate. Higher odds of this if vulnerable Ds have to run on voting against Trump's nominee. It will really help with Evangelical turnout.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:23 AM (pV/54)

257 The Democrats know that they alone can not block a Trump SCOTUS pick and they have been trying to break off MooKow and Colans all week. If they can do that and they vote in lockstep they will block ANY pick.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 11:18 AM (mpXpK)


This really doesn't belong on the book thread BUT

having said that I'm tired of fighting this bullshit by the terms of the left. Adherence to the Constitution is the only thing that should be discussed.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 11:23 AM (y7DUB)

258 Saw last night on the on the ONT a reference to Aztecs and skulls. So pulled out The Pleasures of Archeology by Karl E. Meyer.


Oh, the ONT was fun last night. Nobody re-litigated aids or the Civil War, but we did have an Aztec/Maya fight.

On archaeology, my next book to get to is 15.000 Jahre Mord und Totschlag (15,000 years of murder and deathblows), which is a combined archaeological and anthropological look at evidence of specific murders and massacres over the course of German pre-history.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:24 AM (fuK7c)

259 Muldoon & OM

Children's Plasticine was used in WWII as a bomb defusing aid.

The Special Forces of that day, (SAS, SBS, Commandoes, Chindits) used Nobel's Explosive No. 808, a green plasticine-like material that smelled like cyanide. The plastic explosive was also in a last-ditch anti-armor grenade called a Gammon grenade issued to airborne and other troops. It was supplied to forces behind enemy lines as well.

They all took to calling the explosive plasticine from the similarity to the children's toy. And except for rare occasions, like in Nevil Shute's unit the Directorate of Miscellaneous Weapons Development, everyone treated it as a war explosive, not a kid's toy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 01, 2018 11:24 AM (hyuyC)

260 "Powell himself was worried about being drafted and was an outspoken critic of the Vietnam War and President Nixon."

Being of that era, it was "fake news" that Nixon was in any way responsible for the Vietnam War. He inherited a mess from LBJ. Also, we all were worried about being drafted and sent over to Vietnam. Big deal!

Posted by: Zogger at July 01, 2018 11:24 AM (SKahJ)

261 I highly recommend Ellroy.

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 11:24 AM (VGw3B)

262 You may want to think about breaking that into two books if it gets any longer.

Everyone loves a series, especially authors who get twice the royalties from the same work.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 11:20 AM (cfSRQ)

Huh. I have about 100K but so many scenes (from experience) that I haven't entered. But I'm not sure how many books anyone will read about how fucked up (and ridiculously funny at times) our public school system is.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:24 AM (2CQCl)

263 257 This really doesn't belong on the book thread BUT



having said that I'm tired of fighting this bullshit by the terms of
the left. Adherence to the Constitution is the only thing that should
be discussed.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 11:23 AM (y7DUB)

I gave up trying to get people to stay on topic in the book thread. It is impossible.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 11:25 AM (mpXpK)

264 Dr. No is a good artist. I look forward to reading his book.

Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2018 11:26 AM (tcamx)

265 I start an all meat diet today.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob



Started? Who would respect a vegetarian cannibal?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:26 AM (fuK7c)

266 227 Thanks, OM. Very timely..and funny.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at July 01, 2018 11:27 AM (S+f+m)

267 I'm reading a leaflet on famous Jewish sports legends.

Posted by: Burger Chef at July 01, 2018 11:27 AM (RuIsu)

268 255 252, Cannibal Bob, I started low carb keto hybrid diet last week. first few days were hard but my system seems to have adjusted now.

Posted by: IC at July 01, 2018 11:23 AM (PEJUg)

Thanks IC. I did well on a keto awhile back. Lost weight, energy etc. But Im either in or out it seems. (Like with booze) And got tired charting, following macros to stay in ketosis. Votermom been all meat for a year and swears by it. Plus I'm looking forward to saying to everyone I 'meat'.

"I only eat food that had parents."

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:29 AM (2CQCl)

269 Kid Congresswoman Alexandria on with Chuck Todd.

She can become a media darling as the anti-Trump. I hope so. Will make for wonderful politic theater.

Will Chuck ask about her not really "being from" The Bronx.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:09 AM (pV/54)


A whopping 12,000 votes for Occasionally-Cornholed. Did Sandra Fluke get that many?

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 11:29 AM (y7DUB)

270 That reminds me, a new book about Hank Greenberg is out.
"Hero of Heroes"

Sounds pretty good. Heard a podcast by the author.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 11:29 AM (w7KSn)

271 Started? Who would respect a vegetarian cannibal?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:26 AM

Long soy is very good.

Posted by: Vegan Cannibal at July 01, 2018 11:30 AM (2NqXo)

272 and now I'm sucked into the gay sex thing.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:14 AM (2CQCl)

Exploring your male-g spot can be both fun and rewarding.

Or so I have been told.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2018 11:30 AM (EoRCO)

273 Finished the Paul Johnson book Modern Times: The World From The Twenties To The Nineties.

Outstanding. Lucid and eye-opening.

His take on the Third World is first rate. And a good primer on UK union politics and Thatcher. I learned a lot here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 01, 2018 11:30 AM (hyuyC)

274
Started? Who would respect a vegetarian cannibal?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:26 AM (fuK7c)

Lol. No one here.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:30 AM (2CQCl)

275 A.H. Lloyd, it would be very hard to split this story in two. Unless All Hail Eris has an idea for a spot to split the plot's Gordian Knot.

Another thing this book reminds me is, not everyone agreed on spellings.One page we have Ikhnaton and on the next is a picture of Akhnaton who's name we typically see spelled as Akhenaten *thud*

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:30 AM (zOmHx)

276 A whopping 12,000 votes for Occasionally-Cornholed.

That's what cracks me up, they're acting like this is some new political movement sweeping the nation like Manhattan Barbecue and its some hard left Democrat from a hard left district elected like every Democrat there always is. And? What's the news here again?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:31 AM (39g3+)

277 Gentlemen, please bridle all dueling impulses to the tarmac outside of the coach house.

Posted by: Library Management at July 01, 2018 11:31 AM (J7XgW)

278 I'll be happy when the press starts comparing Trump to Pinochet

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:31 AM (FTPVM)

279 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:30 AM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Remember, you're a lean, mean people Eating machine!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 11:32 AM (Y9uH4)

280 252 I start an all meat diet today.
**ok now that sounds wrong too*
Damn gay sex thread.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:21 AM (2CQCl


I thought you were already on an all-meat diet, as per your nic.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 01, 2018 11:33 AM (a1v7v)

281 258
Oh, the ONT was fun last night. Nobody re-litigated aids or the Civil War, but we did have an Aztec/Maya fight.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:24 AM (fuK7c)


Yes, that was good. Unfortunately I only got there at the tail end. Because I was downstairs reading a book.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)

282 will Chuck Todd ask Occasionally-Cornholed to show her tramp stamp?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:34 AM (FTPVM)

283 I gave up trying to get people to stay on topic in the book thread. It is impossible.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 11:25 AM (mpXpK)

I think that's pretty much true about any thread on this site, don't you?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:34 AM (9BLnV)

284 283 I think that's pretty much true about any thread on this site, don't you?

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:34 AM (9BLnV)

Yes, except the book thread used to be enforced. The garden thread is pretty much enforced still.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 11:36 AM (mpXpK)

285 Insomniac-

If you're in here, or out there, or if you've been lecturing at an all-girl college and the student body is starved for attention..... just know that we're all pulling for you.

Mebbe not the 'Ettes so much.

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 11:37 AM (VGw3B)

286 I grew up on meat. My dad ran a crew of truck/train unloaderrs in the NY meat packing district. He took me to worrk wth him each summer to make sure I apppeciated school. Ugh. 4 am start. Humping slabs of meat till 4pm. Good times though. Now its high end restaurants there. Must be a book in there somewhere.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:37 AM (2CQCl)

287 The book thread is a living document inside my head
or something...

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:37 AM (FTPVM)

288 Collins: I Will Not Support Nominee Who Demonstrated Hostility To Roe V. Wade

Dick

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (Ydx5u)

289 I'm reading a leaflet on famous Jewish sports legends.
Posted by: Burger Chef at July 01, 2018 11:27 AM (RuIsu)

"Famous Jewish Athletes". "Great Negro Nobel Prize Winners". "How to Pick Up Men". Three of the smallest books ever written.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (9BLnV)

290 Well Bandersnatch that book sounds like real hoot.

Proto-Germanic peasant to neighbor, "So's who attacking us now?"

"I think the Angels or was it the Vandals? After awhile it all becomes a bloody confusing mess."

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (zOmHx)

291 IG Report: Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton Tarmac Meeting Was Planned Via Secret Service, FBI

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (Ydx5u)

292 I saw Kid Congresswoman Alexandria on with Chuck Todd.

She's not smart, and she's very young. Many other women SJWers are much better at spouting the platitudes, and twisting the rhetoric.

But she's pretty/ Great eyes.

She left The Bronx and moved to Westchester when she was four, and moved back to Parkchester in The Bronx after college. So i have more Bronx street cred then she does.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (pV/54)

293 For decades I've been curious about Jack Vance's Dying Earth stories, since that's what Gary Gygax so heavily drew on for his spell rules (and other things) in D&D. I got a book finally and read a few of the stories. They aren't too bad, although not exactly what I'd call inspiring. They're imaginative enough, but the imagination is more like free association or dreamlike rather than constructed and creative in the way Moorcock or Tolkien wrote. He's just making it up as he goes along, and it shows. Sometimes that can work pretty well but in this case it wasn't very strong writing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (39g3+)

294
Yes, that was good. Unfortunately I only got there at the tail end. Because I was downstairs reading a book.
Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 11:33 AM (sdi6R)
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You know, I would read even more if I didn't spend so much time here. But then, I get so many good recommendations on things to read!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (gUCYC)

295
"Famous Jewish Athletes". "Great Negro Nobel Prize Winners". "How to Pick Up Men". Three of the smallest books ever written.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (9BLnV)

You forgot Italian War Hereos

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 11:39 AM (Ydx5u)

296 How can I beat their bodies into the mire of their blood if I am reading books?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:39 AM (FTPVM)

297 If things keep going well for Trump, they'll be comparing him to Francisco Franco by Christmas.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 10:58 AM (hq7zy)

And Pinochet by Easter.

Posted by: Fox2! at July 01, 2018 11:39 AM (brIR5)

298 After all the mentions of "The Last Centurion" last week I dug out my copy and put it on top of the 'to-be-read' pile. Unfortunately, that pile gets shuffled around so much the books get dizzy.

Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 11:39 AM (V+03K)

299 295
"Famous Jewish Athletes". "Great Negro Nobel Prize Winners". "How to Pick Up Men". Three of the smallest books ever written.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (9BLnV)

You forgot Italian War Hereos
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 11:39 AM (Ydx5u)

Ahem!

Posted by: Gaius Julius Caesar at July 01, 2018 11:40 AM (FTPVM)

300 Stop throwing my nic in my face you guys. Lol. I keep forgetting I'm a cannibal. Until dinner that is.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:40 AM (2CQCl)

301 Free speech = evil

And it's by way of the NYT so you know it's right.

https://bit.ly/2tHOpva

Sample:

Weaponizing the First Amendment: How Free Speech Became a Conservative Cudgel

. . .
"When I was younger, I had more of the standard liberal view of civil liberties," said Louis Michael Seidman, a law professor at Georgetown. "And I've gradually changed my mind about it. What I have come to see is that it's a mistake to think of free speech as an effective means to accomplish a more just society."

. . .
"To the contrary, free speech reinforces and amplifies injustice, Catharine A. MacKinnon, a law professor at the University of Michigan, wrote in "The Free Speech Century," a collection of essays to be published this year.
"Once a defense of the powerless, the First Amendment over the last hundred years has mainly become a weapon of the powerful," she wrote. "Legally, what was, toward the beginning of the 20th century, a shield for radicals, artists and activists, socialists and pacifists, the excluded and the dispossessed, has become a sword for authoritarians, racists and misogynists, Nazis and Klansmen, pornographers and corporations buying elections."

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Supports my theory that the only constitutional rights the left likes are the imaginary ones.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

302 Humping slabs of meat till 4pm.

Must be a book in there somewhere.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:37 AM (2CQCl)
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Yes, I think there just might.

Or maybe a movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:41 AM (gUCYC)

303 Eris, I know right?

I mean, isn't reading and posting here A Priori a book thread?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:42 AM (FTPVM)

304 "And? What's the news here again?"

She beat an old white Establishment guy who was set to replace Pelosi, so it shows a split in the Ds.

The Ds are on trajectory to be a rump national party with graft-driven socialist redoubts in major cities and a few states.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:43 AM (pV/54)

305 296 How can I beat their bodies into the mire of their blood if I am reading books?
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:39 AM (FTPVM)
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Audio books!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:43 AM (gUCYC)

306 the First Amendment over the last hundred years has mainly become a weapon of the powerful

Narrator: she means "the last 20 years" and by "the powerful" she means not those in power, but the traditional foes of the left, who is now in power and authority, trying to silence their opponents.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:43 AM (39g3+)

307 Must be a book in there somewhere.

The Meat Humper

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (zOmHx)

308 a friend that moved to Europe from NY and stayed there the last 30 years, points out some of the "great works" Franco did in Spain, namely many dams that made Catalonia a rich region. Brutal dictators can accomplish things ... but liberty should be a higher priority than GDP.

CA and NY have centralized a lot of wealth (in the hands of a few) because the whole nation has allowed/enabled that. CA and NY riches are perhaps "the product of a shared national political economy".

that quote is from an article (2017) comparing the Catalon desire to separate from Spain with CA actually being enriched by the rest of the country. (which imo, relates to the CA succession conversation).

https://tinyurl.com/y7z3z7hd
We allowed so much power to be centralized in NY/DC that they now want to separate from US,and given that the globalists are trying to remove the duly elected president, they have proceeded way to far on that goal.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (bT8Z4)

309 >>>[Powell] got married, raised a family, and devoted his life to various teaching projects in 3rd-World countries.

I wish the open borders crowd had this attitude. You want to be surrounded by 3rd-worlders? Fine, go there, and give to them out of your own resources. Related: stabbing spree in Idaho apartment complex for "refugees" last night.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (/qEW2)

310 298 After all the mentions of "The Last Centurion" last week I dug out my copy and put it on top of the 'to-be-read' pile. Unfortunately, that pile gets shuffled around so much the books get dizzy.
Posted by: JTB at July 01, 2018 11:39 AM (V+03K)
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It's at the top of my book maelstrom too.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (gUCYC)

311 I'm reading a leaflet on famous Jewish sports legends.
Posted by: Burger Chef at July 01, 2018 11:27 AM (RuIsu)

"Famous Jewish Athletes". "Great Negro Nobel Prize Winners". "How to Pick Up Men". Three of the smallest books ever written.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (9BLnV)

Your summer reading list?

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (dHUZO)

312 Have a great day, everyone.

There is mowing to be done.

Carry the torch of American Exceptionalism forward, please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at July 01, 2018 11:45 AM (hyuyC)

313 Audio books disrupt my flow and then the other Balrogs want to know what the fuck I'm listening to...

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:45 AM (FTPVM)

314 307 Must be a book in there somewhere.

The Meat Humper
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (zOmHx)

Midnight Meat Train.

Oh darn, taken.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:46 AM (gUCYC)

315 All Hail Eris, makes you not want to think about Meatwad and the implications.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:47 AM (zOmHx)

316 301: NYT only values their 1st Amendment rights. Nobody but the lib press should have them.

I have essentially given up on current fiction due to its political dimensions (feminist leanings, saintly minority/immigrant themes) and just bad writing. Fortunately, I could live forever and never run out of older classics to read.

July's Kindle free selections looked particularly bad, especially the fictionalized account of Martha Gellhorn's marriage to Hemingway. Why fictionalize this? Gellhorn's life was probably adequate for a biography of note without someone adding "fake but accurate" dialogue.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 11:47 AM (5gaNQ)

317 The book thread motivates me to read books.

I know that it's better to be self-motivated and that reading is its own reward, but I am a shallow trivial thing and it's nice to be able to count on Sunday morning to write words at each other about words we've read.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:47 AM (fuK7c)

318 She beat an old white Establishment guy who was set to replace Pelosi, so it shows a split in the Ds.

Oh sure, that's the actual story, but that's not what the press is pushing. Their narrative is "fresh young face demonstrates millennial tidal wave of change in politics!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:48 AM (39g3+)

319 314 307 Must be a book in there somewhere.

The Meat Humper
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (zOmHx)

Meat, The Other Vegetable

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:48 AM (FTPVM)

320 "IG Report: Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton Tarmac Meeting Was Planned Via Secret Service, FBI"

Because they just had to share pictures of their grandkids.

Loretta said Mission Accomplished, where's my SCOTUS seat, historic first bitches.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:48 AM (pV/54)

321 Yes, I think there just might.

Or maybe a movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:41 AM (gUCYC)

Yep. Just the setting is terrific. And now its gone. When do you decide something can stand on its own? Becuse i include a few scenes in the book I'm working on. Just the characters. Truckers, hookers coming by at lunch break and guys getting BJs in the parking lot....and the business itself. Bribing governent graders to upgrade to Choice. and I was a kid.. Boy my eyes were opened.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:49 AM (2CQCl)

322 Meat, The Press.

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 11:49 AM (VGw3B)

323 eh, there's nothing in 'The Anarchist Cookbook' that can't be found in other books that are named less provocatively.

the lesson learned is that the title sells a lot of books

Posted by: Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at July 01, 2018 11:49 AM (RKQ/v)

324 Kids, don't try this at home!

https://tinyurl.com/ya4e9yyc

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 11:49 AM (/tuJf)

325 oh lordy I almost missed the book thresd!

did a post ob TheJamesMadison's new release (link in nic)

also at nic, the free / sale / new books are still available, last day today vua the clfa booknado

just read Elise Hyatt stripped, dipped, and dead - funny little mystery.

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 01, 2018 11:50 AM (hMwEB)

326 She beat an old white Establishment guy who was set to replace Pelosi, so it shows a split in the Ds.

Oh sure, that's the actual story, but that's not what the press is pushing. Their narrative is "fresh young face demonstrates millennial tidal wave of change in politics!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:48 AM (39g3+)

Don't over think this...the "people" in her district are dumb as dog shit

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 11:50 AM (Ydx5u)

327
The Meat Humper
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (zOmHx)

Meat, The Other Vegetable
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:48 AM (FTPVM)

LMAO!!!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 11:50 AM (2CQCl)

328 320: Lynch has no children. If there are "grandkids", they are from step children

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 11:50 AM (5gaNQ)

329 Oh sure, that's the actual story, but that's not what the press is pushing. Their narrative is "fresh young face demonstrates millennial tidal wave of change in politics!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:48 AM (39g3+)


Have you gotten a gander of the codgers on the Judiciary committee? Most of them make Thad Cochran look like a youth movement.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 11:50 AM (y7DUB)

330 Occasionally-Cornholed campaigned hard while old white guy was handcuffed by their own PC bullshit.

Perfect Storm!!! They will find out it doesn't work nationally because White Privilege!!!

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:51 AM (FTPVM)

331 Yeah I think that for the left, this is how they read the 1st amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That's it. They are hostile toward freedom of religion or speech, and certainly redress of grievances against the government, particularly when Democrats are in power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:52 AM (39g3+)

332 I also have a tab up with "I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream". Gotta give it to Harlen, his titles were great. "Repent, Harlequin! Said the Ticktockman".

Other great SF titles:

"Stars In My Pocket Like Grains of Sand"
"Time Considered as a Helix of Semi-Precious Stones"
"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"
"For the Word is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky"

Okay, the last one is an episode title, but still...

Oh, "City of the Edge of Forever", also Ellison.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 11:52 AM (gUCYC)

333 BDSM (Bondage, Discipline, Dominance and Submission) community


Did the person who wrote that consider whether the letters they were using matched the words?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 11:52 AM (fuK7c)

334 I have lately been reading James Ellroy's works.

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I enjoyed White Jazz. Hard boiled as a bowling ball. Veteran back from the Pacific LA cop who moonlights as a hitman for the mob falls in love and that's when the trouble starts.

Rumor has it he turned in his manuscript the publisher told him it was too long meaning to edit out numerous sub plots. Instead he removed modifiers and other unnecessary words creating a sparse, stream of consciousness noir style. Not for everybody but I loved it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 11:53 AM (+y/Ru)

335 33: Good one.

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 11:53 AM (5gaNQ)

336 Those are f-ing great titles

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at July 01, 2018 11:53 AM (FTPVM)

337 306 the First Amendment over the last hundred years has mainly become a weapon of the powerful

Narrator: she means "the last 20 years" and by "the powerful" she means not those in power, but the traditional foes of the left, who is now in power and authority, trying to silence their opponents.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:43 AM (39g3+)


Yes, the Left and leftist-supporting racial, ethnic, and gender groups all loved the First Amendment when they were in the minority.

Now that they control the culture, free speech is a tool of white supremacy and the patriarchy and can no longer be tolerated.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 11:53 AM (sdi6R)

338 This story on Powerline made me think of MPPPP and his Hollywood stories. LGBTQ Studies professor dies in mummification BDSM scene in the dungeon of a Hollywood exec.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8ddl4ow

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 11:54 AM (zOmHx)

339 Occasionally-Cornholed isn't smart. Needed to hear her with Chuck Todd to confirm this. If she doesn't fuck up she'll hold her seat forever, but she's just another vote.

If she was smart, she'd be mayor of NYC down the road. She has everything else going.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 11:55 AM (pV/54)

340 337: I am amazed by the number of under 40y people who actually argue in favor of abolishing free speech (except for journalists). So many have bought into the idea that offending someone in anyway (even if its pretense) is immoral and unacceptable

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 11:56 AM (5gaNQ)

341 Don't over think this...the "people" in her district are dumb as dog shit
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 11:50 AM (Ydx5u)

Yup....Moochers electing a Looter to take from Producers.

Same old tired act with a latina flair.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2018 11:56 AM (EoRCO)

342 289

I don't think that "Famous Jewish Athletes" would be a small book

Posted by: Koufax; Greenburg; Luckman; Spitz; Max Baer; Al Rosen; Lou Boudreau at July 01, 2018 11:56 AM (Cssks)

343 "Famous Jewish Athletes". "Great Negro Nobel Prize Winners". "How to Pick Up Men". Three of the smallest books ever written.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (9BLnV)

Your summer reading list?
Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 11:44 AM (dHUZO)

Only the Braille versions. And darn it, they don't have any color pictures. I like books with pictures, George.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:58 AM (9BLnV)

344 340
I am amazed by the number of under 40y people who actually argue in favor of abolishing free speech (except for journalists). So many have bought into the idea that offending someone in anyway (even if its pretense) is immoral and unacceptable
Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 11:56 AM (5gaNQ)


I find it more frightening than amazing. They are the leaders of tomorrow. They say "Hate Speech is not Free Speech" and they intend to define hate speech.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 12:00 PM (sdi6R)

345
Sitting at the restaurant. About ready to knock a guy's baseball cap off. Just not done.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 01, 2018 12:01 PM (kIzoV)

346 "Don't over think this...the "people" in her district are dumb as dog shit"

Ironically, this CD was redrawn to help Crowley by including the East Bronx, which includes Italian and Irish enclaves that are among the few local NYC voting districts that went for Trump outside of Staten Island. But they didn't turn out for a D primary.

I grew up there.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 12:02 PM (pV/54)

347
A Brewers fan. Figures.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 01, 2018 12:02 PM (kIzoV)

348 Yes, the Left and leftist-supporting racial, ethnic, and gender groups all loved the First Amendment when they were in the minority.

Conversely, people on the right at the time were about sick of "first amendment free speech" used to burn flags, talk crap about the USA, teach communism, etc. Basically those in power don't care for the 1st amendment very much because it challenges their authority.

As an author, watching people despise the freedom of expression, erase (burn) old books that they find problematic, edit books based on leftist speech codes, and refuse to publish things that challenge their viewpoint is very chilling and disturbing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 12:03 PM (39g3+)

349 Only the Braille versions. And darn it, they don't have any color pictures. I like books with pictures, George.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 11:58 AM (9BLnV)

You should have plenty of time, now that you are done with book of famous GWB quotes.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:03 PM (dHUZO)

350 344: And they have redefined fascism, Nazism, and even speech

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 12:05 PM (5gaNQ)

351 Member the DnD kid who killed the other in the sewer?

I member!

Posted by: Skeezix at July 01, 2018 12:05 PM (knN6T)

352 Good Morning reading Rons and Ettes. I am currently reading Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert's first book. It's non fiction. "How to succeed while failing at everything." I find that we share many of the same thoughts and Ideas about life. He's a really interesting man.

I'm on Chapter six of Amy Lynn #6 Tentatively called called Rock Star. Writing is going slow, heads still FKD up by my divorce. Thank all you guys for your support.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 01, 2018 12:05 PM (LGM9+)

353 342

We agree.

Posted by: Lyle Alzado; Kevin Youkilis; Ken Holtzman; Ian Kinsler at July 01, 2018 12:06 PM (Cssks)

354 348
Basically those in power don't care for the 1st amendment very much because it challenges their authority.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 12:03 PM (39g3+)


Why, it's almost as if the Founders knew what they were doing.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 12:06 PM (sdi6R)

355 Keep plugging away, OSP. I love the Amy Lynn series.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 12:06 PM (gUCYC)

356 Attacks on the 1st and 2nd Amendment flow from 14th Amendment Uber Alles. My right to liberty (however I define it) trumps any rights that you claim to have.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 12:07 PM (pV/54)

357 Good luck OSP. So no revolution brewing at the truck stop for Amy to thwart? She's going all Rock Band and slaying them with her Axe?

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 12:07 PM (zOmHx)

358 40 I just finished reading Part I of The Memoirs of the Conquistador Bernal Diaz Del Castillo on the recommendation of my fellow Morons.

All I can say is: wow.

I've read a lot of history (took it as a dual major in college), and even I was shocked at what the natives were up to.

The Spanish showed restraint, is all I'm saying.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 09:41 AM (cfSRQ)
---------------------------------------
Diaz is a treasure! The letters from Cortez are a fine read too, although they are harder to find.

I picked up a slim (less than 200 pages) paperback at a used book store some years ago by an Alfred Sundel, A History of the Aztecs and the Mayas and Their Conquest, which is extraordinarily good as an introduction to the subject. Really top-notch for those who haven't the energy or THINK they haven't) to read Prescott.

I say THINK because Prescott's classic --- still holding up in essentials after 150 years --- is actually very readable.
You can't make the subject boring.

The leftist demonization of Cortez proceeds apace, as part of the bad-European-good-Indian crap.
Just last night on the ONT we had a poster insist that the culture of early 16th century Spain and the Aztec Empire were morally equivalent because---- muh Inquisition!!!!

*sigh*



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 12:08 PM (0jtPF)

359 348: Maybe some on the right would have abridged leftist freedom of speech, but they did not make the considerable effort the left is doing now. As someone who recalls the anti-war protests in all of their faux glory, I do recall WWII veterans stating that even though they disagreed with it, they defended the right of these people to do it. Not so the left

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 12:08 PM (5gaNQ)

360 C'mon in. The water's fine!

Posted by: Candi Ru at July 01, 2018 12:09 PM (DMUuz)

361 I guess we're concerned with Supreme Court precedence now with regard to abortion as a right. Of all the decisions by the Supreme Court, how many were decided like Roe v Wade.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 01, 2018 12:11 PM (rdl6o)

362 344 I find it more frightening than amazing. They are
the leaders of tomorrow. They say "Hate Speech is not Free Speech" and
they intend to define hate speech.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 12:00 PM (sdi6R)


Good thing SCOTUS ruled long ago what speech was protected and what was not. And hate speech is covered by the first amendment unless it goes over into "fighting words".

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 12:12 PM (mpXpK)

363 361: I'm not. I want to see it overturned

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 12:12 PM (5gaNQ)

364 This is a useful new word.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 09:28 AM (hq7zy)

from the definition, Titurbancy means the tits are not calm.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 01, 2018 09:48 AM (2K6fY)

Cease your Titubance?

Posted by: Old Toby at July 01, 2018 12:13 PM (Ws80F)

365 Read quite a few Zane Grey novels when I was younger, but was surprised to hear he had written more than westerns. Was in Bay of Islands north of Auckland, New Zealand and tour guide pointed out a house on one of the islands that Grey lived on for one year. The New Zealand government paid to have him come down and live there and write about fishing in the area. Anyone read any of those books? Not much into fishing but thought I might try one since I liked his writing style. Pretty expensive on Amazon, but thought I might try local library when back or maybe Abe.com.

Posted by: Charlotte at July 01, 2018 12:13 PM (IBzkB)

366 362: Like Mad Maxine encouraging harassment and all sorts of sequelae

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 12:13 PM (5gaNQ)

367 Trouble is free speech rights will be constrained by corporate codes, and MSM attacks.

Look what happened to Roseanne, compared with excesses by speakers on the Left.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 12:14 PM (pV/54)

368 I hate autocorrect!

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 01, 2018 12:14 PM (rdl6o)

369 346. My mom's unc lived in the Bronx. I recall him pointing somewhere down the street from his midrise: 'that's where the Zoo is!' Is that the Italian part?

Posted by: kallisto at July 01, 2018 12:16 PM (tcamx)

370 Margarita DeVille, Meyer quotes Prescott a lot in The Pleasures of Archeology. He also gives us a contemporaneous view of the uproar that occurred when Cortes bones were found. And how the nation he actually built, Mexico, reviles him and instead reveres the last Aztec Emperor Cuauhtemos.

The cruelties of the Aztecs are passed over by the same Mexicans who sternly reproach Cortes for the torture and murder of Cuauhemos, an act of policy with some hard logic to it. ... Hardly anyone quotes Cortes deploring needless brutality except to disparage him as a hypocrite.* pg 237

*Guess someone else was reading Alinksy. Or Alinsky cribbed.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 12:16 PM (zOmHx)

371 352 Good Morning reading Rons and Ettes. I am currently reading Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert's first book. It's non fiction. "How to succeed while failing at everything." I find that we share many of the same thoughts and Ideas about life. He's a really interesting man.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 01, 2018 12:05 PM (LGM9+)

I'm going to read that Adams book again. He is an interesting guy and the book is a good motivational book. We went to the same college a few years apart, and much of his life I can mirror, except the talent and money part. But otherwise we are exactly the same.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 12:16 PM (2CQCl)

372 361
I guess we're concerned with Supreme Court precedence now with regard to
abortion as a right. Of all the decisions by the Supreme Court, how
many were decided like Roe v Wade.

Posted by: Concerned People's Front at July 01, 2018 12:11 PM (rdl6o)

Roe v Wade used Stare Decisis creep from the ruling in Griswall v Connecticut which made up unwritten law from the air contained in the penumbras. One of the worst rulings in history. But I guess as that old news commentator said long ago, bad laws make bad rulings.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 12:17 PM (mpXpK)

373 There's a book which I started and temporarily put aside to read the WWI book I mentioned earlier. It's "The Rocket Men" by Rex Hall and David J. Shayler. It's about the early years of the Soviet space program. Those under 29 might not remember that in the late 50s and early 60s, the Russkies were running rings around us, scoring many important "firsts".

The book was first published in 2001, so presumably the authors had access to declassified Soviet archives. Interesting book, but it's a bit of a slog because of all the confusing and unfamiliar Russian names. I found myself frequently going back and re-reading parts to keep things straight.

I'll go back to it when I finish the WWI book.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 12:18 PM (sdi6R)

374 Just last night on the ONT we had a poster insist
that the culture of early 16th century Spain and the Aztec Empire were
morally equivalent because---- muh Inquisition!!!!



*sigh*


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 12:08 PM (0jtPF)


The Protestants really hyped the Inquisition to make themselves feel better about all the witches they burned.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 12:18 PM (cfSRQ)

375 Good luck OSP. So no revolution brewing at the truck stop for Amy to thwart? She's going all Rock Band and slaying them with her Axe?
Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 12:07 PM (zOmHx)

No, a Miley Cyrus/Ariana type Character gets coked up with a couple young princes from the house of Saud and decides to shake her tits at them Outside the wall of the holy Kaba in Mecca. Hilarity does not ensue.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 01, 2018 12:19 PM (LGM9+)

376 Read quite a few Zane Grey novels when I was younger, but was surprised to hear he had written more than westerns.

L'Amour was frustrated with the category "western" because he said that came with all kinds of presumptions and narrow ideas of the stories. He pointed out that if you write a historical novel about any other time period or location, its just a historical novel. But if you write one about the late 1800s western US, suddenly its just a "western." He wrote lots of novels about other places, too. He called his west books "frontier fiction" to try to break the pattern.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 12:19 PM (39g3+)

377 I'm hoping for Amy Barrett because the only thing that will derail his nominee is the stupid #metoo shit. Other than that, it's a done deal. over. Dims can't stop it and fuck the cow from ME

Posted by: REDACTED at July 01, 2018 12:19 PM (STPlW)

378 The Protestants really hyped the Inquisition to make themselves feel better about all the witches they burned.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 12:18 PM (cfSRQ)

They weren't crazy about cannibals either I hear.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 12:19 PM (2CQCl)

379 LOL # OSP

"Hassam schwing!"

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 12:20 PM (zOmHx)

380 The Bronx Zoo is in the middle of The Bronx. I worked there.

To the south, was the top of the South Bronx. To the immediate west was the Italian section of Arthur Ave / Belmont -- they were very turf concious, to put it mildly. To the north, was the Botanical Garden. To the east were mixed neighborhoods with some Italian and Irish enclaves. The Irish are mostly gone.

A good day trip is the Zoo, and then go to the Italian restaurants on Arthur Ave, three block walk.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 12:21 PM (pV/54)

381 I'm going to read that Adams book again. He is an interesting guy and the book is a good motivational book. We went to the same college a few years apart, and much of his life I can mirror, except the talent and money part. But otherwise we are exactly the same.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 12:16 PM (2CQCl)

Succeeding doesn't always include wealth. However, it is the bar by which others measure it.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 01, 2018 12:21 PM (LGM9+)

382 You should have plenty of time, now that you are done with book of famous GWB quotes.
Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:03 PM (dHUZO)

Oh, I see you've read it. Or had it read to you.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 12:21 PM (9BLnV)

383 Keep plugging away, OSP. I love the Amy Lynn series.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 12:06 PM


I always preferred the Amber or Ginger Lynn series.

Posted by: Chuck at July 01, 2018 12:22 PM (YTxkQ)

384 Oh, I see you've read it. Or had it read to you.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 12:21 PM (9BLnV)

Thought you could not see?

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:24 PM (dHUZO)

385 Succeeding doesn't always include wealth. However, it is the bar by which others measure it.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at July 01, 2018 12:21 PM (LGM9+)

As I can attest OP. I am very blessed.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 12:24 PM (2CQCl)

386 OK all. Heidi's shooting me with a nerf gun I have to deal with it. Later.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 12:27 PM (2CQCl)

387 RE: Aztecs; Cortez; Bernal, etc.

Since there seems to be a lot of interest, there was a fascinating priest named Bernardino de Sahagun, who was an eyewitness to the early post-Conquest. He wrote a book called "General History of New Spain."

Sahagun was an ethnographer, before that word was even coined. He hired Aztecs to advise & assist him with his book, which includes a lot of stunning illustrations.

Posted by: Lyle Alzado; Kevin Youkilis; Ken Holtzman; Ian Kinsler at July 01, 2018 12:27 PM (Cssks)

388 The Protestants really hyped the Inquisition to make themselves feel better about all the witches they burned.

Posted by: A.H. Lloyd at July 01, 2018 12:18 PM (cfSRQ)

They weren't crazy about cannibals either I hear.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 12:19 PM (2CQCl)

That really ruined their cred... the unsolicited cannibal hate

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:28 PM (dHUZO)

389 The problem with constitutional rights is that they apply to the lower classes, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 12:28 PM (+y/Ru)

390 Does anyone here remember the Landmark series of history books for kids?

They were truly wonderful --- books on everyone from Julius Caesar to Ben Franklin to Cortez to the Wright brothers. And the publisher commissioned top experts in the field to write or co-write them.

Of course, they are politically incorrect now.

I sometimes wonder if the obsession with super-heroes today doesn't have something to do with the elimination of REAL heroes from the consciousness of the young.

It is a terrible thing to deprive the young of their culture.


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 12:28 PM (0jtPF)

391 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at July 01, 2018 12:29 PM (5jVnA)

392 I sometimes wonder if the obsession with super-heroes today doesn't have something to do with the elimination of REAL heroes from the consciousness of the young.

==

So true. Old trick , though

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:31 PM (dHUZO)

393 Thought you could not see?
Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:24 PM (dHUZO)

And I thought you could detect irony. Silly me.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 12:32 PM (9BLnV)

394 390 Does anyone here remember the Landmark series of history books for kids?


Hustler for kids. Mother's milk

Posted by: REDACTED at July 01, 2018 12:33 PM (STPlW)

395 I do think the fasciation with superheroes today is a longing for true justice, for people who believe in what is right and try to carry it out whatever the cost, and who transcend political boundaries. Captain America doesn't care about politics, he cares about liberty and fighting tyranny. Daredevil doesn't care who you vote for, he just wants justice.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 12:33 PM (39g3+)

396 393 Thought you could not see?
Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:24 PM (dHUZO)

And I thought you could detect irony. Silly me.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 12:32 PM (9BLnV)

Catfight, oh goody

Posted by: REDACTED at July 01, 2018 12:34 PM (STPlW)

397 'Sitting at the restaurant. About ready to knock a guy's baseball cap off. Just not done.'

I suppose you are not at a Waffle House.

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2018 12:34 PM (UdKB7)

398 370---Meyer quotes Prescott a lot in The Pleasures of Archeology. He also gives us a contemporaneous view of the uproar that occurred when Cortes bones were found. And how the nation he actually built, Mexico, reviles him and instead reveres the last Aztec Emperor Cuauhtemos.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 12:16 PM (zOmHx)
-----------------------------------
Yep.
And it is most ironic that those screaming the loudest about "Hispanic" rights are fundamentally anti-Hispanic!


Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 12:34 PM (0jtPF)

399 And I thought you could detect irony. Silly me.
Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 12:32 PM (9BLnV)

It's the depth that lauded me.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:35 PM (dHUZO)

400 Alluded..

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:36 PM (dHUZO)

401 They still don't quite understand heroism and goodness even with the best of them (Captain America went from fighting evil and injustice, tyranny and brutality to "I don't like bullies") but its still better than most of the stuff out there. Bad guys are bad. Good guys are good. Good guys win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 12:36 PM (39g3+)

402 Meyer quotes Prescott a lot in The Pleasures of Archeology. He also gives us a contemporaneous view of the uproar that occurred when Cortes bones were found. And how the nation he actually built, Mexico, reviles him and instead reveres the last Aztec Emperor Cuauhtemos.

There seem to be a lot of monuments to Cuauhtemoc throughout Mexico. Now that the skulls have been discovered beneath Mexico City, I expect that anti-human sacrifice activists will deface, vandalize and pull down such monuments. Maybe the government can be pressured to remove them.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 12:37 PM (/qEW2)

403 But otherwise we are exactly the same.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 12:16 PM (2CQCl)

Scott Adams is a cannibal too?

Posted by: votermom pimping NEW Moron-authored books! at July 01, 2018 12:37 PM (hMwEB)

404 390
I sometimes wonder if the obsession with super-heroes today doesn't have something to do with the elimination of REAL heroes from the consciousness of the young.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 12:28 PM (0jtPF)


That's a great point.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 12:37 PM (sdi6R)

405 NPR's Spanish is not quite as good as they think it is. They tried to write "The Year of the Wonan" writing "el ano de la mujer" which actually means "the asshole of the woman."

https://bit.ly/2tTrts8

Remember, they're smarter and just plain better than us.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 12:39 PM (+y/Ru)

406 well, yesterday I used the garden thread to brag about reaming out my vacuum cleaner hose so it would suck better.

I should have saved that for this thread.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at July 01, 2018 12:40 PM (NqyM4)

407 @405 must have used google translate

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:42 PM (dHUZO)

408 387 RE: Aztecs; Cortez; Bernal, etc.

Since there seems to be a lot of interest, there was a fascinating priest named Bernardino de Sahagun, who was an eyewitness to the early post-Conquest. He wrote a book called "General History of New Spain."

Sahagun was an ethnographer, before that word was even coined. He hired Aztecs to advise & assist him with his book, which includes a lot of stunning illustrations.
Posted by: Lyle Alzado; Kevin Youkilis; Ken Holtzman; Ian Kinsler at July 01, 2018 12:27 PM (Cssks)
----------------------------------
YES!
So glad you brought him up!
He was truly a great man, a moral force for decency in a hard world, and, as you say, a pioneering scholar.



Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 12:43 PM (0jtPF)

409 Collins: I Will Not Support Nominee Who Demonstrated Hostility To Roe V. Wade

-
Speaking of el ano de la mujer.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 12:43 PM (+y/Ru)

410 writing "el ano de la mujer" which actually means "the asshole of the woman."


Sounds like a probing article.

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 12:43 PM (VGw3B)

411 One of the most famous bad translation examples is the sign, in Welsh, of the translator's out of office autoreply.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7702913.stm

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 12:44 PM (fuK7c)

412 I guess I could tell a story of how a book tried to kill me, but it's way to late into the thread so I'll save it for another time.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:45 PM (dHUZO)

413 Ha! Too late... yes I hate autocorrect toooo

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:45 PM (dHUZO)

414 All the shrill screeching going on in the msm and beyond makes sense when you revisit David Brock/Media Matters Strategic Plan for Action which dropped right after 4 10 20 was elected. Reread and get the message out. We need to fight back. #TRUSTTHEPLAN #WWG1WGA

Posted by: Wendy at July 01, 2018 12:46 PM (DYXQI)

415 I'll just leave this here: https://tinyurl.com/ya4e9yyc


The most surprising thing from the story to me is that even FNC has jumped on the "personal/preferred pronouns" wagon.

Posted by: Bert G at July 01, 2018 12:47 PM (yzxic)

416 We didn't have the Landmark series but but it looks terrific:

https://tinyurl.com/y7av9o2x


The cover of the Genghis Khan volume tells me they know how to attract young eyeballs. Flashing scimitars and flying arrows!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 12:47 PM (gUCYC)

417 I have a funny google translate story, involving a hotel reservation in a famous capital...unfortunately I can't give details. OpSec and all that. Good thing I used reverse translate, I tell you.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:47 PM (dHUZO)

418 what is depressing to me is to read through lists of books that Conservatives deem the worst books that ruined our world. I will go through Gramsci and Marx and Croly and Carson [the Silent Spring liar] and then whoop, up pops Darwin.

no, dude, Darwin doesn't belong there. to the extent he refutes Blank Slate theory he should be treated as on our side.

Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at July 01, 2018 12:48 PM (wSZhv)

419 412 I guess I could tell a story of how a book tried to kill me, but it's way to late into the thread so I'll save it for another time.
Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:45 PM (dHUZO)
----

NOW.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 12:50 PM (gUCYC)

420 The most fractious book thread ever.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 12:52 PM (w7KSn)

421 Well found on Amazon a hardcover copy in Spanish and English of Bernardino de Sahagun Conquest of New Spain for a mere pittance, $42.49.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 12:53 PM (zOmHx)

422 420 The most fractious book thread ever.
----

No it's not!

*defenestrates Navybrat*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 12:53 PM (gUCYC)

423 How do you demonstrate hostility to Roe. And would any SCOTUS aspirant for anywhere near Roe

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 12:53 PM (OlZZL)

424 I refenestrated myself.

Neener, neener.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 12:54 PM (w7KSn)

425 On this fractious note, need to scoot. Feed crouching cats, hungry kittehs. Then go to grocery story since out of dry cat food.

Posted by: Anna Puma (HQCaR) at July 01, 2018 12:55 PM (zOmHx)

426 Thanks Ignoramus!

Posted by: kakisto at July 01, 2018 12:55 PM (SMd3b)

427 So 52 years ago when I left the NCO Club I was titubancy!

When the MP politely questioned me I would have told him so. He was very polite as my chevrons outnumbered his! I may not have been polite.

Posted by: Rodney Stanton at July 01, 2018 12:57 PM (CZDgE)

428 It's ironic that the Soviet Union, a collectivist society, relied so heavily on a single individual, Sergei Korolyov, for their space program. His untimely death in early 1966 left them rudderless for awhile.

By contrast, if Werhner von Braun had died at the same time, it wouldn't have put a crimp in the American space program. His work was largely accomplished and the U.S. program was finding its feet and was already ramping up and overtaking the Soviets.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 12:57 PM (sdi6R)

429 NOW.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 12:50 PM (gUCYC)

Phone typin sux. Ok. I wanted to read Scellenberg's memoirs , The Labyrinth, for the longest time. Finally got it at the library. Did not look like the book was opened since 195?, the year it was published. Very engaging. Very interesting. As I got deeper into the book, I noticed I had problem breathing. Through the nose.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:58 PM (dHUZO)

430 Roe v Wade wasn't just a ghastly demand children be sacrificed on the altar of convenience, it was terrible law, poorly written, without constitutional basis, and its own author expected it to be overturned.

So any judge of any skill or understanding of law at all should have already gone on record against this piece of crap. And anyone who demands a judge not having done so is clearly not worthy of having a say in the decision.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 12:59 PM (39g3+)

431 "The Spanish showed restraint, is all I'm saying."
A few years ago, Chicago's Field Museum had a display of Aztec artifacts loaned from the national museum in Mexico City. What I recall most strongly is a stone basin that was about ten feet in diameter and two feet deep, with skulls carved around the edge. It held the blood and viscera of those who were sacrificed to the Aztec gods; my back-of-the-envelope calculation was that it would take the blood of 200 people to fill it - and it had a runnel to drain the overflow. That was a diseased, death-obsessed culture, and the Spanish - who were no Daughters of Charity, far from it - were right to put it down.

Posted by: Brown Line at July 01, 2018 12:59 PM (S6ArX)

432 Then I noticed black mold growing happily between the pages. Damn Nazi book tried to kill me with spores!

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:00 PM (dHUZO)

433 422 Anna

All of the illustrations are available online for free. The most famous parts of the text also.

He was just so damn meticulous as a researcher! He died disillusioned, btw. Didn't think Catholicism was doing all that well in New Spain.

Posted by: strawdog at July 01, 2018 01:00 PM (Cssks)

434 But the content was good.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:00 PM (dHUZO)

435 I noticed I had problem breathing. Through the nose.
Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 12:58 PM (dHUZO)
---
Nazi death spores!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:00 PM (gUCYC)

436 They were playing the long game, runner.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:01 PM (gUCYC)

437 As much as a memoirs by war criminals go.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:01 PM (dHUZO)

438 I have one good news story from the past few weeks. My internet has been down for over a week. Needed a new modem from CenturyLink. I had scheduled them for Sat. am, then had to call and change to afternoon cause appt. to sign dad up for hospice yesterday morning. I got home at 11:03 and the guy had just left. They hadn't changed my appt. I left a vm on his cell to say what happened. He actually squeezed me in mid-afternoon and had to hard wire it to the box outside and didn't charge me. Replaced the modem.

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 01:03 PM (3VEPv)

439 I did not realize how good pre- WWII Japanese and soviet intelligence were. Japanese was so good, they sold excess to their friends in the Reich.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:05 PM (dHUZO)

440 Weirdest thing I've read lately:
Florida is being invaded by iguanas.
Non-native.
So, people are eating them.
They call them "chicken of the trees".
The newspaper even had a few recipes.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 01:07 PM (w7KSn)

441 no, dude, Darwin doesn't belong there. to the extent he refutes Blank Slate theory he should be treated as on our side.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at July 01, 2018 12:48 PM (wSZhv)


Yes, Darwin is one of us; the progs can have the retards but we get Chuck.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 01:08 PM (y7DUB)

442 Good heavens! 437 comments on a book thread? What are you crazy people up to? I don't dare go away and leave you alone.

Back home on the hill and I need a book recommendation...something light, funny, even.

Anyone?

Posted by: creeper at July 01, 2018 01:09 PM (xkaSw)

443 Darwin is on the bad book list because with his colleagues Freud and Dewey, created a system by which all truth, morality, and beauty was considered optional at best and simply irrelevant or subjective. They wanted a worldview that didn't require any God, and ended up giving us... the modern world's philosophy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 01:10 PM (39g3+)

444 'They call them "chicken of the trees".
The newspaper even had a few recipes'

BBQ of course.

Posted by: Wall of Voodoo at July 01, 2018 01:10 PM (UdKB7)

445 416 We didn't have the Landmark series but but it looks terrific:

https://tinyurl.com/y7av9o2x


The cover of the Genghis Khan volume tells me they know how to attract young eyeballs. Flashing scimitars and flying arrows!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 12:47 PM (gUCYC)
-----------------------------------------------
If I had big money, I'd buy the rights to the series and reprint them.

That's what someone did with the G. Henty books for boys. Those are historical novels featuring a young male hero, set in historical events like the Norman conquest or Waterloo or, yes, the conquest of the Aztecs.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 01:11 PM (0jtPF)

446 I guana
You guana
We all guana
For iguana!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 01:12 PM (+y/Ru)

447 I refenestrated myself.


*checks StyleGuide*


I can't believe we've gone all this time without any rulings on refenestration.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 01:13 PM (fuK7c)

448 'They call them "chicken of the trees".
The newspaper even had a few recipes'

BBQ of course.

Posted by: Wall of Voodoo at July 01, 2018 01:10 PM


'Mexican Radio'... one of a handful of songs that must be played at earsplitting volume to appreciate.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 01, 2018 01:14 PM (LOgQ4)

449 'I can't believe we've gone all this time without any rulings on refenestration.'

it's ok.

Posted by: The Bait-uls at July 01, 2018 01:14 PM (UdKB7)

450 Last week I finished "Down the Highway: The Life of Bob Dylan" by Howard Sounes. It was OK, kind of gossipy, lots of details on Dylan's early life and career.

This week I'm reading "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader - North Korea and the Kim Dynasty". Kim il-Song, the first Kim and grandfather of the current Kim, was elevated to a kind of living god, and a state religion dedicated to worshiping him was created. Seventy years later, I don't know how you get from that to a normal civil society, even if the current Kim wants to.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 01, 2018 01:14 PM (bjCNA)

451 But, of course. Antifa attacks conservatives and it's the conservatives' fault.

https://bit.ly/2NgwUKK

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 01:15 PM (+y/Ru)

452

Ask any Floridian you happen to see
What's the best lizard?
Chicken of the tree

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 01:16 PM (IqV8l)

453 I note that raging fucking asshole author Harlan Ellison passed away late last week.

I also note that while my description of him is accurate and universally agreed upon in authorial circles, I loved every story he wrote and will now go looking for his collected works to read again.

RIP, Harlan (you SOB).

Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:17 PM (k2Hcx)

454 "Of all the decisions by the Supreme Court, how many were decided like Roe v Wade."

Dred Scott = slaves are not persons and don't have legal rights
Roe = fetuses are not persons and don't have legal rights



Posted by: Secret Square at July 01, 2018 01:18 PM (9WuX0)

455 Back home on the hill and I need a book recommendation...something light, funny, even.


I've got one. T.C. Boyle's "When the Killing's Done".

It's a blue on blue farce. One group of enviros trying to eradicate invasive species on Catalina against another group trying to defend them.

Boyle is hilarious and his point isn't political, it's that human nature is stupid.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 01:18 PM (fuK7c)

456 They call them "chicken of the trees".
----

As any 'guana you happen to see
What's the best lizard?
Chicken of the Trees!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:20 PM (gUCYC)

457 Just finished John Ellis's classic study of the miseries suffered by Allied front libe combat troops in WWII, "The Sharp End".

Very highly recommended. After I finish The Deerslayer I will pick up Ellis's "Eye Deep in Hell" which his his similar study of the sufferings of Allied soldiers in WWI.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:20 PM (k2Hcx)

458

PORTLANDERS, I have the misfortune of having to drive I-5 past the south edge of downtown this afternoon, are the CHUD burning and killing down there?

Posted by: In Vino Veritits at July 01, 2018 01:20 PM (UFLLM)

459 450
This week I'm reading "Under the Loving Care of the Fatherly Leader - North Korea and the Kim Dynasty". Kim il-Song, the first Kim and grandfather of the current Kim, was elevated to a kind of living god, and a state religion dedicated to worshiping him was created. Seventy years later, I don't know how you get from that to a normal civil society, even if the current Kim wants to.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 01, 2018 01:14 PM (bjCNA)


Yeah, it's kind of weird how the Communist "classless society" veered off into emperor worship to a degree that would have made the Egyptian pharaohs blush.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 01:20 PM (sdi6R)

460 Bertram beat me to it!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:21 PM (gUCYC)

461 One of Pelosi's Angels.

Illegal arrested for starting dozens of CO wildfires...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

462 NPR's Spanish is not quite as good as they think it is. They tried to write "The Year of the Wonan" writing "el ano de la mujer" which actually means "the asshole of the woman."
Remember, they're smarter and just plain better than us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 12:39 PM (+y/Ru)

Works for me.........

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2018 01:21 PM (EoRCO)

463 RIP, Harlan (you SOB).

Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:17 PM


I used a nic from one of his short stories at a green futbool blog for years. I happened to check Google one time and Harlan was not even mentioned through the first ten pages of results. Just moi.

I kinda felt bad about that.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 01, 2018 01:22 PM (LOgQ4)

464 Anon, do you have a link?

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 01:22 PM (3VEPv)

465 I note that raging fucking asshole author Harlan Ellison passed away late last week.

I also note that while my description of him is accurate and universally agreed upon in authorial circles, I loved every story he wrote and will now go looking for his collected works to read again.

RIP, Harlan (you SOB).
Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:17 PM (k2Hcx)


Wow, did not know this. He was a tireless self promotor and pretty fucking nutty but for that minuscule amount of time that the Muse inspired him he was very good.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 01:22 PM (y7DUB)

466 461: A Scandinavian illegal no less!

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 01:23 PM (5gaNQ)

467 I have a question about the Janus case.


How can Party G(overment) and party U(nion) come to an agreement that Party G will take the property of Party E(mployee) and give it to Party U against the wishes of party E?


How is that not simple theft?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:24 PM (vChNs)

468 418
no, dude, Darwin doesn't belong there. to the extent he refutes Blank Slate theory he should be treated as on our side.
Posted by: Boulder t'hobo at July 01, 2018 12:48 PM (wSZhv)
-----------------------------
Eh. I don't think he belongs on any side really.
He has been used to "scientifically" justify all sorts of things, from laissez faire economics to eugenics.

There is no denying that Darwinian ideas --- or, more often, pseudo-Darwinian ideas coat-tailing on his prestige --- have had a pernicious impact on modern thought.
But I doubt that he himself would be amused.








Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 01:24 PM (0jtPF)

469 My alma mater, Oregon State U won the College World Series on Thursday, having vanguished 4 SEC teams during their run to the title (LSU, Florida, Mississipi State and Arkansas).

Suck it, SEC!!!

In other happy news, three year old Danica Jane, whom many of you have prayed for, has her last radiation therapy session tomorrow then she is back home to Alaska. Drastic brain surgery last November to remove a huge tumor, 3 months of chemo and 3 months of radiation and she is cancer free.

Your prayers were answered, Horde, and for those I thank you.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:25 PM (k2Hcx)

470 Thank you, Bandersnatch. I've never been a fantasy reader (except for two by John. D. MacDonald) but MP4 is making a convert out if me.

The title..."When the Killing's Done"...doesn't exactly sound light but I took your word for it. Thanks again.

Posted by: creeper at July 01, 2018 01:26 PM (xkaSw)

471

OT, but had to ask, what are the odds of a brownout this week and where might it first happen?

Posted by: irongrampa at July 01, 2018 01:26 PM (S/hVx)

472 Florida is being invaded by iguanas.
Non-native.
So, people are eating them.
They call them "chicken of the trees".
The newspaper even had a few recipes.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 01:07 PM (w7KSn)


========

In the early 20th century, Louisiana's rivers were being clogged by an invasive species of water lily, so Congress introduced a bill to import hippos into the river, which could also be used as a meat source, in addition to clearing away the vegetation. Even the NYT was on board with it, calling them "lake cow bacon". Sounds intriguing. I'd eat it.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 01:26 PM (/qEW2)

473 OT, but had to ask, what are the odds of a brownout this week and where might it first happen?
Posted by: irongrampa at July 01, 2018 01:26 PM (S/hVx)

Texas

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at July 01, 2018 01:27 PM (czkHE)

474 I like "Pelosi's Angels" as a sarcastic thing applied to MS-13 and other illegal alien criminals.


We are way, way, way past the point where the National Endumbening renders the general populace unable to appreciate this, but it's good.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 01:27 PM (QDnY+)

475 I sometimes wonder if the obsession with super-heroes today doesn't have something to do with the elimination of REAL heroes from the consciousness of the young.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 12:28 PM (0jtPF)

That's a great point.
Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 12:37 PM (sdi6R)

---

Are you one of those Neanderthals that think soldiers and clergy and policemen and cowboys are heroes?


bank robbers are heros. Hookers are heros. Movie Makers are heros.

Posted by: Hollywood at July 01, 2018 01:27 PM (vChNs)

476 Anon, do you have a link?

-
The illegal arsonist in Colorado is linked on Drudge. A lot of info on fire. Little on the arsonist or his motive.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 01:28 PM (+y/Ru)

477 Sharkman @ 469

You made my day with the news of Danica Jane.

Posted by: creeper at July 01, 2018 01:28 PM (xkaSw)

478 writing "el ano de la mujer" which actually means "the asshole of the woman."

https://bit.ly/2tTrts8

Remember, they're smarter and just plain better than us.

--

we can celebrate that too

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:28 PM (vChNs)

479 :How is that not simple theft?"

Not an expert on Labor law, but suspect it flows from 1930s legislation on collective bargaining after a union gets certified.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (pV/54)

480 474: Jesper Joergensen does not fit the usual profile of Pelosi's angels

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (5gaNQ)

481 My alma mater, Oregon State U won the College World
Series on Thursday, having vanguished 4 SEC teams during their run to
the title (LSU, Florida, Mississipi State and Arkansas).



Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:25 PM (k2Hcx)



My alma mater (Mississippi State) shouldn't have even been there given the way most of their season went. UPig choked on that foul ball. And football season is rapidly approaching.

Posted by: Bert G at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (yzxic)

482 459
Kim il-Song, the first Kim and grandfather of the current Kim, was elevated to a kind of living god, and a state religion dedicated to worshiping him was created.
Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 01, 2018 01:14 PM (bjCNA)

Yeah, it's kind of weird how the Communist "classless society" veered off into emperor worship to a degree that would have made the Egyptian pharaohs blush.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 01:20 PM (sdi6R)


Also, at the time of Kim the First's death, hereditary succession was a big no-no in standard commie doctrine. No problem, just invent some new commie jibber-jabber to allow Kim the Second to takeover. Then, take anyone who doesn't like it out back and shoot them in the head. Easy-peasy.

Posted by: Iowa Bob at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (bjCNA)

483 Speaking of brownouts, they're happening now in Iran. Some are happening in smaller cities - in order to avoid same in Tehran ..... for fear of sparking more public demonstrations.


As usual hard to get a feel for things, but don't be shocked if that regime is tottering, falling, or going ape-shit to hang onto power some time soon.


Most definitely, "winning".

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (QDnY+)

484
OT, but had to ask, what are the odds of a brownout this week and where might it first happen?
Posted by: irongrampa

Texas
Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen


They have their own grid. Is it being overloaded?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (IqV8l)

485 Congo opens up gorilla preserve to oil drilling amid howls of protests from environmental groups. I wish them luck on their attempt to escape shiteholedom. Welcome to the 21st century guys.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 01:30 PM (/qEW2)

486 478 writing "el ano de la mujer" which actually means "the asshole of the woman."

https://bit.ly/2tTrts8

Remember, they're smarter and just plain better than us.

--

we can celebrate that too
Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:28 PM (vChNs)


I thought we were done with butt stuff on this thread.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 01:30 PM (sdi6R)

487 Your prayers were answered, Horde, and for those I thank you.
Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:25 PM (k2Hcx)


Great to read! Time for young Danica Jane to enjoy life.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 01, 2018 01:31 PM (y7DUB)

488 North Korea...so little know about it. People guess that is is maybe Stalinist, maybe communist, but who really knows. Just a feed escapees giving evidence here and there. Satellite images. That is all.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:31 PM (dHUZO)

489 >>In the early 20th century, Louisiana's rivers were being clogged by an invasive species of water lily, so Congress introduced a bill to import hippos into the river, which could also be used as a meat source, in addition to clearing away the vegetation. Even the NYT was on board with it, calling them "lake cow bacon". Sounds intriguing. I'd eat it.

Well that sounds like a spectacularly bad idea. Unlike cows, hippos will eat you.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 01:32 PM (/tuJf)

490 They have their own grid. Is it being overloaded?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (IqV8l)

Yes, we have already received notice of impending brownouts.

Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at July 01, 2018 01:32 PM (czkHE)

491 Just received my copy of "About My Mother" by Peggy Rowe, mother of Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs. To be clear, the book is about Mike's grandmother.

Posted by: roamingfirehydrant at July 01, 2018 01:32 PM (THS4q)

492 They are talking about unifying the two, probably a long term project.

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:33 PM (dHUZO)

493 376
Read quite a few Zane Grey novels when I was younger, but was surprised to hear he had written more than westerns.



L'Amour was frustrated with the category "western" because he said
that came with all kinds of presumptions and narrow ideas of the
stories. He pointed out that if you write a historical novel about any
other time period or location, its just a historical novel. But if you
write one about the late 1800s western US, suddenly its just a
"western." He wrote lots of novels about other places, too. He called
his west books "frontier fiction" to try to break the pattern.
Christopher- that's a good point. There are some authors who wrote under a different name than what they used in westerns (or other genre)

Posted by: Charlotte at July 01, 2018 01:33 PM (IBzkB)

494 I thought somebody was doing the usual "Lutheran jello jihadist" joke when they said it was a guy named Jesper Joergensen, but it's actually a guy named Jesper Joergensen.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:33 PM (gUCYC)

495 I'm in Pennsylvania, and my air conditioner is running flat out.

*fingers crossed*

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 01:34 PM (sdi6R)

496 Gorilla Pundit can get a job in the oil patch.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 01:34 PM (IqV8l)

497 I'm in Pennsylvania, and my air conditioner is running flat out.

*fingers crossed*

Posted by: rickl


Same here.

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 01:35 PM (VGw3B)

498 Unlike cows, hippos will eat you.


I don't think so. They will, however, murder you, which is pretty much just as bad.

Hippos kill more humans in Africa than lions or crocodiles or hyenas or three toed sloths*.



*(I'm not technically sure that three toed sloths live in Africa).

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 01:35 PM (fuK7c)

499 494: nope, I wasn't joking. And he's 52 and a John Lennon enthusiast for good measure

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 01:35 PM (5gaNQ)

500
roman numeral for 500, whatever that is

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:35 PM (IM7lQ)

501 Jesper Joergensen.

Police have now idea what nationality. Brilliant.

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 01:36 PM (3VEPv)

502 467 How is that not simple theft?

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:24 PM (vChNs)

Because FDR's Fair Wage and Labor act allowed them to do it. And FDR in 4 terms succeeded in packing the court.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 01:36 PM (mpXpK)

503 We didn't have the Landmark series

We have six volumes in our house. Appears you can get these on the net from $5 to $10.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2018 01:36 PM (r+sAi)

504 roman numeral for 500, whatever that is


Posted by: Soothsayer


D ?

VOO ?

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 01:38 PM (VGw3B)

505 >>I don't think so. They will, however, murder you, which is pretty much just as bad.

Yes, I was being a bit hyperbolic. But they will kill you dead.

I was surprised to learn how dangerous they are. Fat guys are supposed to be jolly.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 01:38 PM (/tuJf)

506 424 I refenestrated myself.

Neener, neener.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 12:54 PM (w7KSn)

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:38 PM (vChNs)

507 Asian carp, great lakes

Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:38 PM (dHUZO)

508 424 I refenestrated myself.

Neener, neener.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 12:54 PM (w7KSn)

---

enough with the refen madness

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:38 PM (vChNs)

509 UPig choked on that foul ball.


Yes, yes they did. And the final game's pitcher for OSU, a FRESHMAN!, then pitched a 129 toss two-hit shutout for the title. Glorious.

Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:39 PM (k2Hcx)

510 500
roman numeral for 500, whatever that is
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:35 PM (IM7lQ)


D

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 01:39 PM (sdi6R)

511
OT, but had to ask, what are the odds of a brownout this week and where might it first happen?
Posted by: irongrampa


Better not hit me. You know the notices that your power utility sends you -- comparing your usage against your neighbors and slut-shaming you for using too much? I finally beat the top category, 'Most Efficient Households' last month.

De-centralizing heat and a/c with latest technology is a win. Won't work for everyone but in my case payback time was less then a year.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 01, 2018 01:39 PM (LOgQ4)

512 We have six volumes in our house. Appears you can get these on the net from $5 to $10.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2018 01:36 PM (r+sAi)
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Yeah, I found one on the Mercury Seven Astronauts (said in Texas twang) for five bucks on Amazon.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:39 PM (gUCYC)

513 293 For decades I've been curious about Jack Vance's Dying Earth stories, since that's what Gary Gygax so heavily drew on for his spell rules (and other things) in D&D. I got a book finally and read a few of the stories. They aren't too bad, although not exactly what I'd call inspiring. They're imaginative enough, but the imagination is more like free association or dreamlike rather than constructed and creative in the way Moorcock or Tolkien wrote. He's just making it up as he goes along, and it shows. Sometimes that can work pretty well but in this case it wasn't very strong writing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 11:38 AM (39g3+)


Read The Eyes of the Overworld. Much the best of the Dying Earth set, and arguably Vance's best. Unlike the DE stories, this one is funny, which is when Vance is at his peak.

Posted by: George LeS at July 01, 2018 01:39 PM (59GGI)

514 Gorilla Pundit can get a job in the oil patch.

-
You can lead a roughneck to wisdom but you can't make him think.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 01:40 PM (+y/Ru)

515 Roman numeral for 500 is D

Posted by: Sharkman at July 01, 2018 01:40 PM (k2Hcx)

516 471


OT, but had to ask, what are the odds of a brownout this week and where might it first happen?


Posted by: irongrampa at July 01, 2018 01:26 PM (S/hVx)

Should not be seeing too many brown-outs any longer. Most utilities have quit reducing voltage intentionally during periods of high load. They eventually came to the conclusion that it did not save any load usage. Instead they do rotating blackouts when load begins to exceed existing capacity.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 01:41 PM (mpXpK)

517

Ford Galaxy D


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:41 PM (IM7lQ)

518
btw, I'd like to thank President Trump for inventing air conditioning. Hot doesn't even begin describe today.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:42 PM (IM7lQ)

519 I hate the Left as much in Sundays as any other day

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 01:42 PM (Ydx5u)

520

I'll pick San Diego, having read somewhere that their grid is teetering right now, without ANY added stress such as is expected this week.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 01, 2018 01:43 PM (S/hVx)

521 btw, I'd like to thank President Trump for inventing air conditioning. Hot doesn't even begin describe today.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:42 PM (IM7lQ)

Amen. And for Ivanka for inventing ice

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 01:43 PM (Ydx5u)

522 Jesper Joergensen.

Police have now idea what nationality.

-
Or what cartoon he escaped from.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 01:43 PM (+y/Ru)

523 522: This is an illegal that Colorado will be happy to hand over to ICE

Posted by: CN at July 01, 2018 01:45 PM (5gaNQ)

524 481---My alma mater (Mississippi State) shouldn't have even been there given the way most of their season went.

Posted by: Bert G at July 01, 2018 01:29 PM (yzxic)
----------------------------------
They had a fantastic run and definitely won the "most entertaining" award.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 01:45 PM (0jtPF)

525 >>Amen. And for Ivanka for inventing ice

Abolish ice!

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (/tuJf)

526 The odds of a blackout in the NE are high since they are having extremely hot weather (for that region) and they already have to import a great deal of their electricity from outside of the NE because of NIMBY, NAMBY, and NOPE types proliferating in that area.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (mpXpK)

527
Is the whole country Hot right now?

I think the entire USA is in a heat wave.

I miss Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (IM7lQ)

528 Just looking over these Landmark titles, a kid -- heck, an adult -- could get a very good basic historical education.

Wow, the volume on the Barbary Pirates was written by C.S. Forester of Horatio Hornblower fame.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (gUCYC)

529 473 OT, but had to ask, what are the odds of a brownout this week and where might it first happen?
Posted by: irongrampa at July 01, 2018 01:26 PM (S/hVx)

Texas
Posted by: MAC SOG and nothing will happen at July 01, 2018 01:27 PM (czkHE)

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

That'll be the day. We have our own Power Grid guided by ERCOT. We are separate from the rest of the country. We manage our shit.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 01:47 PM (Y9uH4)

530 The hippo bill was ultimately defeated anyway. Maybe word leaked out that they were in fact deadly. Just do an image search on hippo skull. It's like a starburst of sharp tusks sticking out every which way.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 01:47 PM (/qEW2)

531 Foggy and about 60F here.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 01:47 PM (w7KSn)

532 "First, clean your kitchen sink real good. Then mix nitric acid and glycerin in the correct proportions to make nitroglycerin. At this point, you'll need to acquire some cellulose. Mixing nitroglycerin with cellulose is truly an art."

See, all those things are true, but not in a very helpful way.
Posted by: musical mountaineer at July 01, 2018 09:30 AM (ZRQJP)

I would like to acquire an early edition of that book, simply to have as a period piece. I already know how to blow shit up, but avoid doing it as a matter of policy.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2018 01:48 PM (a2xQ5)

533 527

Is the whole country Hot right now?

I think the entire USA is in a heat wave.

I miss Winter.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (IM7lQ)

The northern region from Chicago to Maine is experiencing unusually hot weather according to some of the sites I saw this morning.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 01:48 PM (mpXpK)

534
I love foggy and 60.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:48 PM (IM7lQ)

535 Wow, the volume on the Barbary Pirates was written by C.S. Forester of Horatio Hornblower fame.

Posted by: All Hail Eris,


Jimmy Carter once introduced Hubert Humphrey as "Hubert Horatio Hornblower"

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 01:49 PM (VGw3B)

536
Canada must be exporting some heat to us. Tariff it!

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:49 PM (IM7lQ)

537 531 Foggy and about 60F here.
Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 01:47 PM (w7KSn)

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*RE-defenestrates Navybrat*

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:50 PM (vChNs)

538 irongrampa, right now (and for, well, weeks) it's been perfect in San Diego, cool nights, marine burning off by 10 or 11, breezy dry clear afternoons in the high 70s. Deserts are hot (as usual).


CA is of course a monument to idiocy and self-sabotage and religious cultism replacing science and common sense. And even before it got that bad, under-investment - ranging up to active harassment and obstruction - of capacity led to brownouts, most recently (I think) during the tech bubble of the 90s.


A lot of the power here is imported, of course. Not aware there was any great stress or crisis associated with power right now.


I would welcome some problems, for the entertainment, but of course a majority of residents are too effectively stupid/ignorant to even figure out why the problems would be happening, so no pressure for return to sanity.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 01:50 PM (QDnY+)

539 I n Texas we're kind of used to the heat. Plus, we are used to the heat. In addition to being used to the heat, we also happen to be a net energy exporter.

We got this.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 01:51 PM (Y9uH4)

540 That was "marine layer" burning off - the coastal clouds that move in every afternoon and burn off every morning, "natural air conditioning" that moderates coastal temps and creates this ridiculously perfect climate.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 01:51 PM (QDnY+)

541 I figured it make sense to start at the beginning.

So have done the Iliad and Odyssey on audio book along with Caesars commentaries and Xenophon's march of the 10,000.

Something really cool about reading the actual words of Caesar.

Now on to Herodutus

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:53 PM (vChNs)

542
Amen. And for Ivanka for inventing ice
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 01:43 PM (Ydx5u)

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only fair, hot as she is

Posted by: buzzsaw90 at July 01, 2018 01:53 PM (vChNs)

543 I miss Winter.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook


You've gone through life without doing nearly enough damage to your body.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 01, 2018 01:54 PM (LOgQ4)

544 bank robbers are heros. Hookers are heros. Movie Makers are heros.
Posted by: Hollywood at July 01, 2018 01:27 PM (vChNs)


Don't forget Jourolists, the greatest heroes of all. They speak Power to Truth.

Posted by: George LeS at July 01, 2018 01:54 PM (59GGI)

545 I miss Winter.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (IM7lQ)

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Do I have to say it?

Posted by: Eddard Stark at July 01, 2018 01:54 PM (vChNs)

546 You're right, the fog burns off.
And then, it's 70F.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 01:55 PM (w7KSn)

547 Wow, the volume on the Barbary Pirates was written by C.S. Forester of Horatio Hornblower fame.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (gUCYC)

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Hooray for hornblowers!

Posted by: Shep S. at July 01, 2018 01:55 PM (vChNs)

548 Listening to the Danish National Anthem?

Not exactly insprieing?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 01:56 PM (Ydx5u)

549 There's also a Landmark book on the U.S. Border Patrol (1963). 8 bucks on Amazon.

So much triggering with this series.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:58 PM (gUCYC)

550 @ 538
Rhomboid, I skimmed an article online, unfortunately didn't save it and the thrust was that their grid is in general disrepair, and unlikely to function under stress condition.
I recall seeing all sorts of graphs purporting to show the reasoning behind the premise, but can't vouch for the authenticity, that was a pretty cursory read, anyway.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 01, 2018 01:58 PM (S/hVx)

551 Highs in the 70s, lows in the 60s, forecast for the next week or so. Low humidity (current website number is 72%, which is ridiculous - it's not so dry you have to use moisturizer on your hands every 30 minutes, or fire risk is elevated, but it's dry).


Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 01:58 PM (QDnY+)

552 Asian carp, great lakes
Posted by: runner at July 01, 2018 01:38 PM (dHUZO)


Great lakes fishing is also suffering from invasive zebra and quagga mussels.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 01:59 PM (/qEW2)

553 Listening to the Danish National Anthem?


The true test of a national anthem is whether it murders anyone who attempts to sing it. Like ours.

I think maybe three people have got all the way through our National Anthem in my lifetime.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 01:59 PM (fuK7c)

554 In a lot of Texas yesterday and today, we have a brownish, hazy sky. Our weatherman says this is the remnant of a huge sandstorm in the Sahara that blew up into the high altitudes, and then traveled all the way across the Atlantic. At first I didn't want to believe him, but then I just went out and looked at it again, and there it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2018 02:00 PM (V2Yro)

555 527
I miss Winter.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (IM7lQ)


Me too. Then again, I live in the mid-Atlantic region, where winter is fairly mild. I'd probably think differently if I lived in Buffalo or Minnesota.

But winter is my favorite season. No yard work and no centipedes.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 02:00 PM (sdi6R)

556 Wait a minute. Isn't it triggering, problematic, and even cis-colonialist to be named Ocasio-Cortez? Have we got a mole in the Democrat Left?

Posted by: George LeS at July 01, 2018 02:00 PM (59GGI)

557 Fat guys are supposed to be jolly.

Knee pain is very aggravating.

Posted by: DaveA at July 01, 2018 02:00 PM (FhXTo)

558 Well Denmark scores a minute in

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:01 PM (Ydx5u)

559 Let me recommend Buccee's Hot & Spicy Hill Country beef jerky. Have a cold beer ready, as it will light you up. Plus, you can read the package, so there's that.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:01 PM (Y9uH4)

560 I think maybe three people have got all the way through our National Anthem in my lifetime.

Hey !

"It's Enrico Palatzo !"

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 02:01 PM (VGw3B)

561 Ick, it's 95 degrees here. The humidity is posted as 42%, but it's never that low here in the summer.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 02:01 PM (gUCYC)

562 Well Denmark scores a minute in
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:01 PM (Ydx5u)


Is... are we happy about that? I don't know if I'm supposed to be happy about that.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:02 PM (y87Qq)

563 The good thing about the hazy sky is that means it's only going to get up to 97 today, rather than 102. These cool summer days are always nice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2018 02:02 PM (V2Yro)

564 Well Denmark scores a minute in
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:01 PM (Ydx5u)

Is... are we happy about that? I don't know if I'm supposed to be happy about that.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:02 PM (y87Qq)

Me either...playing Croatia. For what ever that is worth

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:02 PM (Ydx5u)

565 Easy to imagine the electrical infrastructure in CA is f**ked up beyond recognition - why not? All this idiotic pursuit of fake energy ("renewables", subsidized solar), the anti-scientific "environmental" cultism, the astonishingly passive populace, irresponsible cowardly stupid "leadership" class.


Nuke plant near SD is being shut down years and billions of $$$ short of its life-span - massive, massive waste.


As I said, I'd enjoy some disasters, even though it would be pure schadenfreude - the locals don't have the capacity to figure anything out and fix it.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (QDnY+)

566 "De-centralizing heat and a/c with latest technology
is a win. Won't work for everyone but in my case payback time was less
then a year.Posted by: Forgot My Nic
I have an air to air heat pump heat/AC unit for the whole house, but use a small window unit. I mostly live in the living room, so just put the unit in the kitchen (to avoid the noise) and blow it into the living room. works fine in hottest weather ... occasionally use the window fan.

am contemplating running a pipe from my 55 degree spring and running maybe 3gpm through a "radiator" (or two, counter flow) to experiment with some "free AC" ... in winter that might even work for a ground source heat pump. Lots of fun possibilities for the "environmentalist", but also for just basic cost savings.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (bT8Z4)

567 I like summer. I grew up in Phoenix, the heat don't bother me none.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (V2Yro)

568 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2018 02:00 PM (V2Yro)
+++++++++++++++++++

Yeah, it's here.

Hazy Shade Of Summer - Not Simon & Garfunkel

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (Y9uH4)

569 In a lot of Texas yesterday and today, we have a brownish, hazy sky. Our weatherman says this is the remnant of a huge sandstorm in the Sahara that blew up into the high altitudes, and then traveled all the way across the Atlantic. At first I didn't want to believe him, but then I just went out and looked at it again, and there it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo


A sand dune in your yard ?

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (VGw3B)

570 Well Croatia scores 1-1 LOL..

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (Ydx5u)

571 528 Just looking over these Landmark titles, a kid -- heck, an adult -- could get a very good basic historical education.

Wow, the volume on the Barbary Pirates was written by C.S. Forester of Horatio Hornblower fame.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 01:46 PM (gUCYC)
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Yep. A lot of big name authors.

My father was a history professor, so when it came time to pick English-language books for his kids, Landmark was the bomb! We had nearly 100 of them.

And you're right. Reading a wide selection would give you a faaaar better background in history than all of the "social-studies" crap taught in schools today.

I picked up about 40 of them for my kids, mostly ones covering topics that are ignored or perverted today --- Cortez! Richard the Crusader! and yeah, Genghis Khan!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (0jtPF)

572 As I said, I'd enjoy some disasters, even though it would be pure schadenfreude - the locals don't have the capacity to figure anything out and fix it."

Be careful, don't wanna go all Tom Steyer on us.

(that guy, what a piece of work he is)

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2018 02:04 PM (V2Yro)

573 Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2018 02:02 PM (V2Yro)
++++++++++++++++

Right? It's been pretty pleasant today while I've been in the garage cleaning up and organizing.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:04 PM (Y9uH4)

574 Huh. Croatia evens it up.

This is why I watch kickball every four years. When it's not the World Cup I can't tell if they're trying to win. They seem to try during the World Cup.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 02:04 PM (fuK7c)

575 If we could eliminate Earth's tilt, we could eliminate the discomforts of winter and summer. It would be forever like spring/fall. Mathematician turned mad scientist Alexander Abian was a proponent of doing this by blowing up the moon. I wish more profs went mad this way instead of becoming SJWs.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 02:05 PM (/qEW2)

576 I like summer. I grew up in Phoenix, the heat don't bother me none.

Posted by: Tom Servo


I didn't grow up in AZ and it's bothering the sheee-it outta me !

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 02:06 PM (VGw3B)

577 570 Well Croatia scores 1-1 LOL..
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (Ydx5u)
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Really, how am I supposed to feel about a kickball game between Scandiland and Crustacia?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 02:06 PM (gUCYC)

578 am contemplating running a pipe from my 55 degree spring and running maybe 3gpm through a "radiator" (or two, counter flow) to experiment with some "free AC" ... in winter that might even work for a ground source heat pump. Lots of fun possibilities for the "environmentalist", but also for just basic cost savings.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (bT8Z4)
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When I was growing up, instead of Conditioned Air, everyone had "swamp coolers" that worked just as well. You have a capitol idea.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:06 PM (Y9uH4)

579 Well Croatia scores 1-1 LOL..
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM (Ydx5u)


So it's as if Denmark never scored in the first place, if they're both tied. I get to go back to my ground state of mild distraction. This is a good development right here.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:06 PM (y87Qq)

580 Really, how am I supposed to feel about a kickball game between Scandiland and Crustacia?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 02:06 PM (gUCYC)

Well I feel that since the Yankee-Red Sox game does not start till 8, I gotta watch something?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:07 PM (Ydx5u)

581 >>If we could eliminate Earth's tilt, we could eliminate the discomforts of winter and summer. It would be forever like spring/fall. Mathematician turned mad scientist Alexander Abian was a proponent of doing this by blowing up the moon. I wish more profs went mad this way instead of becoming SJWs.

Gru almost pulled it off.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 02:07 PM (/tuJf)

582 It's easy to like the heat when you have no humidity.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 02:07 PM (IqV8l)

583
I refenestrated myself.


We had a cat that would scale the wall to the kitchen window over the garage.

Posted by: DaveA at July 01, 2018 02:07 PM (FhXTo)

584 Well I feel that since the Yankee-Red Sox game does not start till 8, I gotta watch something?


Yes, but that is clearly Good vs. Evil.

Scandibalkan is a tougher call.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 02:08 PM (fuK7c)

585
One of ours is John Paul Jones, Fighting Sailor.
TRIGGERED!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 01, 2018 02:08 PM (r+sAi)

586 Soccer. Harrumph. It's race day.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:09 PM (Y9uH4)

587 am contemplating running a pipe from my 55 degree spring and running maybe 3gpm through a "radiator" (or two, counter flow) to experiment with some "free AC" ... in winter that might even work for a ground source heat pump. Lots of fun possibilities for the "environmentalist", but also for just basic cost savings.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 02:03 PM


I know people in my area who are drilling a couple hundred feet down to get to 55 degree temps for year round a/c and heat pump efficiency. Sounds like a valid idea worth pursuing.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 01, 2018 02:10 PM (LOgQ4)

588 What seems to be growing in popularity around here is whole-house fans, instead of a/c. Where I am a/c is definitely optional - was rare before the 90s, and hardly universal now. But instead of replacing older a/c systems, people install whole-house fans (just fans that vent through the roof, set up to empty the whole house of air, and draw in fresh air through doors/windows).


With the typical pattern here, even during heat waves, if you open your windows at night for the cool air, button up by 7, stay closed all day, inside is pleasant. About the time it starts to heat up inside - late afternoon - you throw things open and run the fan for 20 minutes.


Voila, hotter air purged. Then the cool evening takes over.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 02:10 PM (QDnY+)

589
You Westerners don't understand Humidity.


Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:11 PM (IM7lQ)

590
Swamp coolers only work West of the Rockies.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:11 PM (IM7lQ)

591 Location is everything in SoCal climates, though. Due to marine influence, and topography, places not distant from each other can have 10-20 degree temp differences. I'm right at the very eastern edge of the marine influence - thus the absurdly mild climate. Mean lows/highs, annually, are a few degrees apart.


Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 02:13 PM (QDnY+)

592 Swamp coolers only work West of the Rockies.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018
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Allow me to retort. Of course low humidity is key, but they still worked just fine whenever I saw them in use all over the DFW area growing up.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:13 PM (Y9uH4)

593 Swamp coolers only work West of the Rockies.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:11 PM (IM7lQ)


If you're talking about the well pump thing, it's just a heat exchanger, not evaporative cooling. My parents had one when I was growing up because our well was stupidly deep enough for it to make sense.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:14 PM (y87Qq)

594 It would be forever like spring/fall. Mathematician turned mad scientist Alexander Abian was a proponent of doing this by blowing up the moon. I wish more profs went mad this way instead of becoming SJWs.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 02:05 PM (/qEW2)

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Ve must liquidate him

Posted by: Moon Nazis at July 01, 2018 02:14 PM (vChNs)

595
Here's what it feels like right now (just a little west of Boston, MA) :

Imagine walking into a sauna. Then imagine a hair dryer being pointed at you while you're in that sauna.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:15 PM (IM7lQ)

596 Sooth many "westerners" have lived or spent time in humidity.


Hanoi in June is memorable. September in Masawa, Eritrea on the Red Sea is like being inside an industrial facility. Northern Persian Gulf all fall/summer is super.


Knowing humidity well just makes this climate more appreciated (by some).

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 02:16 PM (QDnY+)

597
I'm talking about a swamp cooler -- a fan + mist of water.

Nice and refreshing in the middle of the Mojave.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:16 PM (IM7lQ)

598 Swamp Coolers use a tray of water supplied by a water hose with a huge fan on top that blows over the water to cool the air.

What illineweik(?) is talking abut is using 55 degree water as the coolant in a closed loop system. I think.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:16 PM (Y9uH4)

599
Western USA.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:17 PM (IM7lQ)

600 575 If we could eliminate Earth's tilt, we could eliminate the discomforts of winter and summer. It would be forever like spring/fall. Mathematician turned mad scientist Alexander Abian was a proponent of doing this by blowing up the moon. I wish more profs went mad this way instead of becoming SJWs.
Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 02:05 PM (/qEW2)
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Bah. You want spring/fall weather year round?
Move to Quito, Ecuador. Right on the equator so it never gets cold but at a high elevation so it never gets hot.

True, this doesn't solve the problem for the rest of the world, but we can fix that in any numbers of ways:
1) Screw the "rest of the world."
2) Population control. If we only had a million or so humans instead of 7 billion, we could all live in Quito.
3) Move piles of earth from temperate zones and build 10,000 ft mountains along the equator so there will be lots of Quitos.

Easy peasy!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 02:17 PM (0jtPF)

601
Yeah, thermal cooling is using the heat underground to produce air conditioning, either warm or cool.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:19 PM (IM7lQ)

602 I'm talking about a swamp cooler -- a fan + mist of water.

Nice and refreshing in the middle of the Mojave.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:16 PM (IM7lQ)


Right, that's useless in humidity. A geothermal heat pump would still work though, like illiniwek's idea at #566. Especially if you're not changing temperature fast, just maintaining it.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:19 PM (y87Qq)

603 But Sooth you're absolutely right, taking it another way.


As recently as two years ago, when the occasional (not every year) bout of "humid" weather settled in for an astonishingly long period (3 weeks), local weather TV people actually explained that "this is humidity" or things along those lines. Hilarious. Because younger people and some others literally don't understand it, having almost never experienced it.


And while these occasional humidity spells (only in Aug/Sept, usually less than 2 weeks) are jarring to the inexperienced among the locals, they're nothing like DC in August, for example, nothing like that. Just not comfortably dry.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2018 02:20 PM (QDnY+)

604 In the early 20th century, Louisiana's rivers were being clogged by an invasive species of water lily, so Congress introduced a bill to import hippos into the river,
------------------

We need a ground cover to control erosion.

Gov't: No problem. We'll just plant this Japanese vine called 'Kudzu'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:20 PM (JEV/2)

605 All I know is, I like my Lennox. A comfy 72 in the house and 98 outside. Thank Gawd for technology.
'Murica.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:20 PM (Y9uH4)

606 Soothsayer, I am lifelong Texan and no stranger to heat, but some of the hottest I've ever been was at a day game at Fenway. Temp, humidity, density, no breeze, and people combined to make it truly miserable.

When we were in Philadelphia a few years ago (at this same time of year), it was much the same--but then the temperature was actually hotter than back in Texas.

Posted by: Art Rondolet of Malmsey at July 01, 2018 02:21 PM (S+f+m)

607 As per this morning Vicks suggestion bought a 17w 3.4 A charger for my tablet. Now to see if it helps.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:23 PM (pHfeF)

608 the well pump can work ... I don't want to drain mine that much. Some recirculate through the well, which apparently can work also.

That "oranges in Nebraska" greenhouse guy put tubes for air down 8' to maintain his greenhouse above freezing, and in non cloudy (more western) winters, they get a lot of sun for day heat. But the ground source heat pump thing works well, though going down 8' is probably even better than 4', where the ground starts getting colder in winter.

With all the excavation done during building, would make sense to use that time to install the coiled pipelines for the heat pump then. Shouldn't cost near as much as some charge.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 02:23 PM (bT8Z4)

609 Who is up for a little ray of sunshine. From yesterday's antifa riot. Wait for the money shot at the 10 second mark.

https://tinyurl.com/y8z47fo7

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 02:23 PM (/tuJf)

610 Gov't: No problem. We'll just plant this Japanese vine called 'Kudzu'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:20 PM (JEV/2)
+++++++++++++++++++

When the apocalypse happens, Kudzu will be 200$ a pound.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:24 PM (Y9uH4)

611 Plasticine is a synthetic brightly colored modeling clay used in kindergartens.

You mean Play-Dough?

I doubt if it did much damage to the Japanese troop trucks.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 10:31 AM (m45I2)

I wonder if they mean some kind of plastic explosive?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader & Contributing Editor, Vanity Fair Magazine at July 01, 2018 10:45 AM (a1v7v)


Plasticine is the trade name of colored modelling clay. Think Gumby and Pokey.

"Plastique" is the term for plastic explosive.

Play Doh is Joe Biden's fallback in the event of a paste shortage.

And Pleistocene is used for constructing geologic models...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2018 02:24 PM (a2xQ5)

612 We had a swamp cooler for our Auxiliary Building. Who ever decided that was a good idea for an area that has 100% humidity in the Summer evidently knew nothing about HTFF.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:25 PM (mpXpK)

613 https://tinyurl.com/y8z47fo7
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 02:23 PM (/tuJf)
+++++++++++++++++++
(wipes away tear) That was beautiful, man.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:25 PM (Y9uH4)

614 All I know is, I like my Lennox. A comfy 72 in the house and 98 outside. Thank Gawd for technology.
'Murica.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:20 PM


Sweet dreams are made of this.

Posted by: Annie Lennox at July 01, 2018 02:27 PM (LOgQ4)

615 So, tell me more about this "blow up the moon" idea.

Really. I am curious. You know how heavy uranium and plutonium are. How many atom or thermonuclear devices would be "necessary and sufficient?" What rocket could send them there?

Fun idea. Totally cracked in my shooting from the hip mini-analysis.

Posted by: JAS at July 01, 2018 02:27 PM (3HNOQ)

616 Are we riding this thread until CBD's thread?

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:27 PM (pHfeF)

617 Thank Gawd for technology.
'Murica.



So a million or 25 years ago I was living in Germany where air conditioning is not a fixture. And that's mostly fine except for the occasional wicked fucking hot and humid day when oh by the way your wife is pregnant.

So we pulled a Depression-era trick of going to the movies, even a bad movie, because what you're really looking for is air conditioning.

Guess which country's movie theaters weren't air conditioned.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 02:27 PM (fuK7c)

618 Do we have any COBs here today? Only two threads since this morning.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:28 PM (mpXpK)

619 I made a business trip to Puerto Rico once, years ago. It was sweltery and hot, really humid. Went into the boiler room where they were "making steam". Hot as the hinges of Hell, lemme tell you. At least 120 F, probably more. It was actually hard to breathe.

Went to Sri Lanka last April (2017) and it is very hot and humid there, every day. Felt like Ohio in July. Every day.
Going into the building where the rotary kilns are was incredibly hot. Nobody stayed in there long. And I noticed most of the native guys hung out in AC if they had the chance. But sure, they were used to it.
Sure.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at July 01, 2018 02:28 PM (vcOmj)

620

Oh yeah, movies and BOWLING ALLEYS are extra crowded today.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 02:28 PM (6Vp6w)

621 What illineweik(?) is talking abut is using 55 degree water as the coolant in a closed loop system. I think. Posted by: Jak Sucio
right, for a well it would be closed loop ... I would just pump the spring water up (14' rise but a 600' run may be an obstacle) and maybe just dump it in my pond ... that would maintain some open area, and in dry spells like lately, might keep the pond topped off.

it all ends up down the creek anyway.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 02:29 PM (bT8Z4)

622 Sadly for me, Jack Straw's link is demanding some kind of login for 'inappropriate content' and I must sign in and say that I am over 18.

Nonsense.

Any truth to the rumor this am that some Patriot Group had a license for demonstration and police pulled it when the Antipants decided to get frisky?

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 01, 2018 02:29 PM (MIKMs)

623 it all ends up down the creek anyway.
Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 02:29 PM (bT8Z4)


Well sure... but how do you pronounce creek? That makes a difference.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:29 PM (y87Qq)

624 Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 02:27 PM (fuK7c)
++++++++++++++++

D'OH!!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:29 PM (Y9uH4)

625 It's hot but the trick is drink lots and don't be a slave to air conditioning.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:30 PM (pHfeF)

626 We have already had seven days here since the start of May with temperatures above 100F.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:30 PM (mpXpK)

627 Same vid is on liveleak.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9VJvv_1530408966

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 02:32 PM (w7KSn)

628 72 huh?

I just lowered my thermostat from 74 to 73.

Let's try 72.

Posted by: JAS at July 01, 2018 02:32 PM (3HNOQ)

629 >>Sadly for me, Jack Straw's link is demanding some kind of login for 'inappropriate content' and I must sign in and say that I am over 18.

That's a shame. It's a very cheerful video of an antifa goon getting knocked cold.

I think I've watched it a dozen times so far and it does not get old.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 02:32 PM (/tuJf)

630 Yesterday went out on the deck and read a chapter, thinking of doing it again. A few years ago was outside in the coldest winter I knew every day and all day. Since then heat doesn't bother me just take precautions.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:32 PM (pHfeF)

631 Any truth to the rumor this am that some Patriot Group had a license for demonstration and police pulled it when the Antipants decided to get frisky?
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 01, 2018 02:29 PM (MIKMs)

-----------

From what I understand, police did not pull the permit, but just stood idly by while Antifa got violent against a peaceful protest.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 01, 2018 02:32 PM (I16G8)

632 Sweet dreams are made of this.
Posted by: Annie Lennox at July 01, 2018 02:27 PM (LOgQ4)
+++++++++++++++++++

Quit cadging my song. You didn't get it in the divorce.

Posted by: David Stewart at July 01, 2018 02:32 PM (Y9uH4)

633
https://tinyurl.com/y8z47fo7
Posted by: JackStraw
---------------

WTF? I have to sign in with the Goolag to view that?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:33 PM (+cu3S)

634 It will be interesting to see how the ash clouds from the volcano in Hawaii affect North American weather. Anybody else remember Mt St Helens?

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 01, 2018 02:33 PM (MIKMs)

635 Easy peasy!

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 02:17 PM (0jtPF)


Sounds good to me. Thinking outside the box. Does anyone really enjoy feeling like a brass monkey in winter and sweating like an ox in summer? I don't.

Posted by: Steve and Cold Bear at July 01, 2018 02:33 PM (/qEW2)

636 the navybrat link doesn't require any input.

Posted by: JAS at July 01, 2018 02:34 PM (3HNOQ)

637 Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:32 PM (pHfeF)
++++++++++++++++++++++

I ride a motorcycle year round. In Texas heat, in the winter, etc. Just prepare for it and you'll be fine.

Posted by: David Stewart at July 01, 2018 02:34 PM (Y9uH4)

638 English queef sock off.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:35 PM (Y9uH4)

639 >>WTF? I have to sign in with the Goolag to view that?

It didn't make me sign in. I don't know why it's doing that to you.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 02:35 PM (/tuJf)

640 That was a thing of beauty.

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 02:36 PM (3VEPv)

641 That's a shame. It's a very cheerful video of an antifa goon getting knocked cold.


It is.

Generally in bad movies or TV shows somebody gets punched and goes to sleep right away. And if you've ever been punched or have punched somebody that doesn't seem realistic.

But this guy punches an antifa and the punchee goes right out.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 02:36 PM (fuK7c)

642 Probably because Jackstraw already is cookied up.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 02:36 PM (w7KSn)

643 Just checking for a new thread. This one seems to have been up for quite a while.

Posted by: SteveOReno, as an intelligent person, I self-identify as a Moron at July 01, 2018 02:36 PM (2sCft)

644 whew. Smells like HIV and meat in here.

Posted by: Fritz at July 01, 2018 02:36 PM (J7XgW)

645 I just lowered my thermostat from 74 to 73.

Let's try 72.

Posted by: JAS
--------------

Dammit.

Posted by: Condensate pump at July 01, 2018 02:36 PM (I83yK)

646 637 I ride a motorcycle year round. In Texas heat, in the winter, etc. Just prepare for it and you'll be fine.

Posted by: David Stewart at July 01, 2018 02:34 PM (Y9uH4)

I got caught in a sleet/snow storm on my motorcycle in WA when I was there in the 70s. One of the many reasons I hated that State. I did not have a face mask either.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:37 PM (mpXpK)

647 Per the Portland Oregonian newspaper/fishwrap, the police did in fact pull the permit for the Patriots Prayer march after the antifa thugs started throwing eggs, bottles and fireworks at the Patriot group. The police did manage to arrest seven of the thugs, most all of whom already had outstanding warrants for other crimes, unrelated to this act of violence against permitted march and rally.
Given Portland, I'm sure the thugs will be released without charges.

Posted by: Winston at July 01, 2018 02:37 PM (wgCUV)

648 "Well sure... but how do you pronounce creek? That makes a difference.

Posted by: hogmartin at

ha yeah-you-right. I think the uncles here said crick ... somewhere I got flipped to saying creek (rhymes with beak). Wish I had recorded more conversations from way back, to help recall the old country vernacular ...

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 02:37 PM (bT8Z4)

649 Also spent the Summer that wasn't in Europe 1979, never got more than 80 degrees even once I think. We took field jackets to work every night and evening shift. I had no idea it got hot in England until I heard of 90 degree temperature at Wimbledon years after.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:37 PM (pHfeF)

650
It didn't make me sign in. I don't know why it's doing that to you.
Posted by: JackStraw
--------------

My guess is they know who you are, and don't know who I am. I try to keep it that way. I use no g-services of any kind.

Posted by: Condensate pump at July 01, 2018 02:38 PM (I83yK)

651 Gotta admit, that punch was solid contact. See that on occasions watching boxing.
Now wrestling....

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 01, 2018 02:38 PM (e1mEI)

652 Oops. /pump

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:39 PM (I83yK)

653 Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:37 PM (mpXpK)
++++++++++++++++

Yeah, winter kinda sucks on a bike, but with enough layers anything is possible. And no face mask? Ay Chihuahua....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:39 PM (Y9uH4)

654 Well so far since I have been back my tablet has gone up in power by a couple of percent, with the old plugged in it still would stay the same or slowly go down if using it and on.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:39 PM (pHfeF)

655 Wifey is yacking away at me using her computer with a voice program for typed messages.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:40 PM (mpXpK)

656 Interesting thing about that illegal that started some fires in CO is that Drudges link goes to the Daily Mail. But the local ABC 7news story does not mention the guy is illegal. It says ICE was involved in his arrest and that it was unclear why ICE was involved. Ha, unclear to whom?

Posted by: Last at July 01, 2018 02:41 PM (8HiDF)

657 Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:39 PM (pHfeF)
++++++++++++++++
Hopefully it's not terminal(battery) that is.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:41 PM (Y9uH4)

658 655 Wifey is yacking away at me using her computer with a voice program for typed messages.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:40 PM (mpXpK)
+++++++++++++++++

That's awesome.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at July 01, 2018 02:42 PM (Y9uH4)

659 647 In Philadelphia they would apologize and give them a cash settlement for the inconvenience of arresting them. And the officers would be on leave until their hearings.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:42 PM (pHfeF)

660 609 Who is up for a little ray of sunshine. From yesterday's antifa riot. Wait for the money shot at the 10 second mark.

https://tinyurl.com/y8z47fo7
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 02:23 PM (/tuJf)


Youtube wants me to sign in to confirm my age.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 02:42 PM (sdi6R)

661

Police in Portland, Oregon, revoked a permit for a pro-America march and declared the scene a riot when counter-protesters erupted in violence on Saturday.

https://bit.ly/2MCJLFK

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 02:42 PM (IqV8l)

662 Well sure... but how do you pronounce creek? That makes a difference.
Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:29 PM


crik.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 01, 2018 02:43 PM (DMUuz)

663 My To Read stack is overflowing. If you people would stop recommending books, I would stop buying them.

Currently still working on 'Turing: The Enigma". So far, a very interesting read. Having just finished Churchill's memoirs, which I think were published ~1950-55, he never mentions 'Ultra', or any cryptography work. It all was still highly classified.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:43 PM (+cu3S)

664 661




Police in Portland, Oregon, revoked a permit for a pro-America march
and declared the scene a riot when counter-protesters erupted in
violence on Saturday.



https://bit.ly/2MCJLFK

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 02:42 PM (IqV8l)

Portland, OR; one of the most liberal cities in America. I would not live there on a bet.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:44 PM (mpXpK)

665 I'm going to turn it off, take a bottle of water, my book and go sit out. Also going to water the garden from my rainwater barrel.
Be back for the food thread.

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:44 PM (pHfeF)

666 It's hot but the trick is drink lots and don't be a slave to air conditioning.
Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:30 PM (pHfeF)



My A/C owns me right now. We are engaged.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 02:44 PM (H4pHX)

667 Youtube wants me to sign in to confirm my age.
Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 02:42 PM (sdi6R)


He's cool, guys, he's with me.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 02:45 PM (y87Qq)

668 Here it is on live leak

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=9VJvv_1530408966

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 02:45 PM (/tuJf)

669 665 that was too close for a superstitious guy like me

Posted by: Skip at July 01, 2018 02:45 PM (pHfeF)

670 666
My A/C owns me right now. We are engaged.
Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 02:44 PM (H4pHX)


I love my air conditioner sexually.

Posted by: rickl at July 01, 2018 02:46 PM (sdi6R)

671 Wifey is yacking away at me using her computer with a voice program for typed messages.
-------------

Without reference to Mrs. V ( and I hope she is doing well), at least this way there is a mute switch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:46 PM (+cu3S)

672 don't be a slave to air conditioning.
----

I am A/C's willing servant.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 02:46 PM (gUCYC)

673 They totally removed her vocal cords in this last operation.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:48 PM (mpXpK)

674 My electric bill is gonna be the cost of a small wedding. Yoinks.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 02:48 PM (H4pHX)

675 Illegal arrested for starting dozens of CO wildfires...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,


*******


Well, he started one fire, but it's a big one. And his name is Jesper Joergensen. No word about his nationality.

I own property near there, still in the danger zone of the expanding fire.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 02:49 PM (m45I2)

676 Yeah, the antifa guy strikes his opponent with some kind of pole, twice, then the patriot dude decks him with one punch, and the antifa guy goes down like a plank.
I hope it was enough to reorient him a bit.

Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentator at July 01, 2018 02:49 PM (w7KSn)

677

*recalls playing in the sprinkler as a kid*

Life was simpler then.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:49 PM (+cu3S)

678 Well, he started one fire, but it's a big one. And his name is Jesper Joergensen. No word about his nationality.
------------

A G-d Scandi. I knew it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:50 PM (Coh3a)

679 Funny how it's not the fault of the people wearing masks.

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 02:50 PM (3VEPv)

680 They totally removed her vocal cords in this last operation.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:48 PM (mpXpK)


I feel like an idiot asking, please forgive me, but did your wife have cancer that caused her vocal chords to be removed. I think she sounds amazing getting on with it with the typing and other tools.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 02:52 PM (H4pHX)

681 ABC News is smearing potential SCOTUS nominee Don Willett for is "odd social media habits."

Willett, at the time a justice on the Supreme Court of Texas, tweeted out his son confusing "Eminem" and "eminent," a picture of three puppies and a picture of cornbread shaped like his home state.

Crazy ass bastard!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 02:52 PM (+y/Ru)

682 They totally removed her vocal cords in this last operation.
Posted by: Vic
---------------

Geeze, Vic. Very sorry to learn that.

Please forgive my attempted humor above. It had only to do with talking computers.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:52 PM (Coh3a)

683 Funny how it's not the fault of the people wearing masks.
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 02:50 PM (3VEPv)


Infidel, how are you doing. How is your dad?

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 02:52 PM (H4pHX)

684 680 I feel like an idiot asking, please forgive me, but
did your wife have cancer that caused her vocal chords to be removed. I
think she sounds amazing getting on with it with the typing and other
tools.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 02:52 PM (H4pHX)

Thyroid cancer. And this is the third major surgery they have done on it;

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:53 PM (mpXpK)

685 661

Police in Portland, Oregon, revoked a permit for a pro-America march and declared the scene a riot when counter-protesters erupted in violence on Saturday.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 02:42 PM (IqV8l)
---------------------------
How the hell does that work?
You get a permit to march.
In the middle of the march, a bunch of goons with no permit attack you.
So your permit is withdrawn?

Bizarre.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at July 01, 2018 02:53 PM (0jtPF)

686 ABC News is smearing potential SCOTUS nominee Don Willett for is "odd social media habits."

Willett, at the time a justice on the Supreme Court of Texas, tweeted out his son confusing "Eminem" and "eminent," a picture of three puppies and a picture of cornbread shaped like his home state.

Crazy ass bastard!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 01, 2018 02:52 PM (+y/Ru)

Have they called him a Nazi yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 01, 2018 02:53 PM (Ydx5u)

687
Anybody else remember Mt St Helens?
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 01, 2018 02:33 PM (MIKMs)

Still got the mason jar of volcano dust from Spokane. Sister thought world was ending. Middle of the day and it looked like midnight.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 01, 2018 02:53 PM (e1mEI)

688 Funny how it's not the fault of the people wearing masks.
Posted by: Infidel
-------------

...and inciting to riot.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:54 PM (Coh3a)

689 My A/C owns me right now. We are engaged.

Posted by: platypus,


Missed ya on the Chess Thread.

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 02:54 PM (VGw3B)

690 How the hell does that work?
You get a permit to march.
In the middle of the march, a bunch of goons with no permit attack you.
So your permit is withdrawn?

Bizarre.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille
------------

I wouldn't be surprised if they are charged subsequently with 'Parading Without a Permit'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 02:55 PM (Coh3a)

691 ...a picture of cornbread shaped like his home state.

++++++++

Have they called him a Nazi yet?



********

I've never seen cornbread shaped like Bavaria.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 02:55 PM (m45I2)

692 ABC News is smearing potential SCOTUS nominee Don Willett for is "odd social media habits."


I don't twitter but I did retweet something because if he got enough of them his wife would re-marry him with him in a Batman costume.

That didn't happen, but he belongs on SCOTUS as a consolation prize.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 02:57 PM (fuK7c)

693 Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 02:52 PM (H4pHX)

He was pissed when hospice showed up even tho we told him about it. He's ok with it now. His memory test went from 14 out of 30 in March to 4 out of 30 last week. I'm a fkd up mess and the pump out of went out in the swamp cooler.

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 02:57 PM (3VEPv)

694 Re-reading "Villette" Charlotte Bronte's final novel-about a young English schoolteacher in a French boarding school. I had read it several times before but couldn't find my copy. The introduction by Susan Fromberg Schaeffer was so terrible I couldn't finish it. Can't stand these extreme feminists who think they completely understand the psychology of Charlotte Bronte and what everything in the book means. I like the novel to speak for itself. I enjoy the novel itself

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2018 03:00 PM (AllCR)

695 Darwin is on the bad book list because with his colleagues Freud and Dewey, created a system by which all truth, morality, and beauty was considered optional at best and simply irrelevant or subjective. They wanted a worldview that didn't require any God, and ended up giving us... the modern world's philosophy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2018 01:10 PM (39g3+)

You fall into the trap of blaming Darwin for what the cultural marxists stole from his ideas.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 01, 2018 03:02 PM (a2xQ5)

696 "You get a permit to march.
In the middle of the march, a bunch of goons with no permit attack you.
So your permit is withdrawn?

Bizarre. Posted by: Margarita DeVille


just like Charlottesville really, except that "Unite the Right" was run by Spenser ("white nationalist" that likes to provoke using "not quite white" power crap and has his gang throwing Nazi salutes and flags 'for fun'). He was helped in coordinating the event by the guy that (astro-turfed) the Occupy Wall street BS.

But still, the Unite the Right rally for the RE Lee statue also had some normal people. It was funded antifa that showed up to start some faux-violence, and the cops helped. So much agit-prop coordinated with the left and the MSM to "manufacture a crisis", then never let that faux-crisis go to waste.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 03:02 PM (bT8Z4)

697 I am A/C's willing servant.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 02:46 PM (gUCYC)



See? Another invention you can thank Ghana for.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 03:02 PM (hq7zy)

698 I've never seen cornbread shaped like Bavaria.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 01, 2018 02:55 PM (m45I2)



Hah! Your mistake. The cornbread was shaped like AUSTRIA.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at July 01, 2018 03:04 PM (hq7zy)

699 He was pissed when hospice showed up even tho we told him about it. He's ok with it now. His memory test went from 14 out of 30 in March to 4 out of 30 last week. I'm a fkd up mess and the pump out of went out in the swamp cooler.
Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 02:57 PM (3VEPv)


It was so wise of you to get him into hospice. When you are going through all this, the pump going out probably seems 100 times worse...well, that was how I was anyway about that stuff.

Hang in there, and hopefully the Horde can be a small distraction.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 03:04 PM (H4pHX)

700 Wifey is yacking away at me using her computer with a voice program for typed messages.
Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 02:40 PM

Is she home now?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 01, 2018 03:05 PM (/+bwe)

701 700 Is she home now?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at July 01, 2018 03:05 PM (/+bwe)

Yes, they discharged her last week.

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 03:08 PM (mpXpK)

702 Missed ya on the Chess Thread.
Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 02:54 PM (VGw3B)


OM warned me he was gonna put up 2 pics of AI girl. I don't know why she creeps me out so much, but she does. I never find her dresses much to write home about either. But OM has a crush on her, and it is his thread...so who am I to be an irrational tinfoil hat. ^.^

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 03:08 PM (H4pHX)

703 You fall into the trap of blaming Darwin for what the cultural marxists stole from his ideas.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
--------------

They as adept at cherry-picking facts as they are at cherry-picking judges. I rarely see the full title of Darwin's work mentioned:

'On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:09 PM (sd+O2)

704 ...so who am I to be an irrational tinfoil hat. ^.^

Posted by: platypus,


!

Posted by: JT at July 01, 2018 03:10 PM (VGw3B)

705 NY post reports in an editorial that Obama hasn't disappeared. It's no surprise that His "Organizing for America" group is very well funded, training thousands and thousands in Saul Alinsky type techniques. Can everyone (else) stop pretending that Obama is a decent guy who wants to stay out of limelight?. He's not decent, not a good guy and just doesn't want to be outwardly associated with radical groups and violent revolt.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2018 03:10 PM (AllCR)

706 Thanks platypus.

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 03:10 PM (3VEPv)

707 Anybody else remember Mt St Helens?
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 01, 2018 02:33 PM (MIKMs)
Still got the mason jar of volcano dust from Spokane. Sister thought world was ending. Middle of the day and it looked like midnight.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at July 01, 2018 02:53 PM (e1mEI)

Yup....didn't some old fart refuse to leave his home on the side of the mountain and he went up with it.

What a way to go.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2018 03:11 PM (EoRCO)

708 "'On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer

OH MY ... that is 'just a bit' problematic for the PC crowd. lol

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 03:12 PM (bT8Z4)

709 Yes, I remember that old fart. I lived in Bellingham at the time.

Posted by: Infidel at July 01, 2018 03:12 PM (3VEPv)

710 Did you note that after the antifa guy gets punched down, an antifa woman immediately gets in the puncher's face and tries to provoke him.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:13 PM (sd+O2)

711 In just a few short hours we are going to have a full blown Marxist running a failed country on our southern border. It's going to be an interesting summer.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 03:13 PM (/tuJf)

712 Saw little Ben Shapiro on the Bill Mahar show.
Dude can you please get over the fact that Donald Trump doesn't have the same comportment and carriage of this fantasy conservative President you have in your head.
And that Donald Trump had zero to do with the "lowering of discourse" in America.

Donald Trump is the most temperamentally and programatically conservative President we have ever had in this nations history.

The guy is just a one note dipshit.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 01, 2018 03:14 PM (UfMVm)

713 Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 03:13 PM (/tuJf)

Yep, and he's encouraging everybody to come to the U.S. because it's their right.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2018 03:15 PM (AllCR)

714 just went out and changed out the Japanese Beetle trap bags again ... another gallon+ of hot crawling beetles ... almost 20 gallons of them in the can now, probably that many more dead from Sevin. plants mostly ok ...

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 03:15 PM (bT8Z4)

715 'On the origin of species by means of natural selection, or the preservation of favoured races in the struggle for life.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer

OH MY ... that is 'just a bit' problematic for the PC crowd. lol



Race didn't have the same meaning back then. As recently as mid-century Churchill referred to Americans as a race.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 03:16 PM (fuK7c)

716
OH MY ... that is 'just a bit' problematic for the PC crowd. lol
Posted by: illiniwek
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Yeah, every time a Liberal says something snarky to me about evolution, I say "Oh, so you subscribe to Darwin's theory, eh?" They inevitably say "yes, of course". That's when you point out that they are racist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:17 PM (+cu3S)

717

Mt Saint Helens movie:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083117/

The guy who stayed was named Harry S. Truman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 01, 2018 03:17 PM (IqV8l)

718 " ABC News is smearing potential SCOTUS nominee Don Willett for is "odd social media habits.""

He got into tweeting when he was running for re-election to the Texas Supreme Court.

In response to a transgender student's joining a girls' softball team, he tweeted "Go away, A-Rod."

The horror!

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 01, 2018 03:17 PM (pV/54)

719 NY post reports in an editorial that Obama hasn't disappeared. It's no surprise that His "Organizing for America" group is very well funded, training thousands and thousands in Saul Alinsky type techniques. Can everyone (else) stop pretending that Obama is a decent guy who wants to stay out of limelight?. He's not decent, not a good guy and just doesn't want to be outwardly associated with radical groups and violent revolt.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 01, 2018 03:10 PM (AllCR)

BO doesn't have the intelligence to "organize" anything. He is a cardboard cutout that can read a teleprompter (not very well, but still..), dress nicely, pretend to be a focal point of political importance, and causes feminists and gays (i.e., the Demonicrat Party) to swoon because muh diversity. Don't give him any credit for any strategy or tactics. He learned over 10 years ago that all he has to do is show-up. He can do that, as long as his handlers keep him directed.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 03:17 PM (9BLnV)

720 In just a few short hours we are going to have a full blown Marxist running a failed country on our southern border. It's going to be an interesting summer.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 03:13 PM (/tuJf)

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Up until very recently, I was not in favor of our military being used to secure our Southern border. Recent developments have led me to change that position in the face of an impending invasion, the likes of which we have never seen.

Posted by: Calm Mentor at July 01, 2018 03:17 PM (I16G8)

721 In just a few short hours we are going to have a full blown Marxist
running a failed country on our southern border. It's going to be an
interesting summer.


Third world shithole, meet fourth world shithole.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 01, 2018 03:18 PM (Tyii7)

722 >>Yep, and he's encouraging everybody to come to the U.S. because it's their right.

At least he's being honest about it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 03:18 PM (/tuJf)

723 Race didn't have the same meaning back then. As recently as mid-century Churchill referred to Americans as a race.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
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Don't harsh my smugness.

Besides, all's fair when addressing Liberals.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:18 PM (+cu3S)

724 Did you note that after the antifa guy gets punched down, an antifa woman immediately gets in the puncher's face and tries to provoke him.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:13 PM (sd+O2)


Their organization, psychological and economic, is more like that of ants or termites; they are communal entities, the ultimate dictatorship of the hive.

Posted by: hogmartin at July 01, 2018 03:19 PM (y87Qq)

725 Yup....didn't some old fart refuse to leave his home on the side of the mountain and he went up with it.

What a way to go.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 01, 2018 03:11 PM (EoRCO)

You should have punctuated it "What a way to go!" You know, happy, upbeat, just the way any old fart wants to go out.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 03:20 PM (9BLnV)

726 @705
The main reason that he is laying low is that he may actually run into a reporter who might, you know, act like a reporter and start asking relevant questions instead of, "Mr President, what is it like to be the awesomest ex-President?" or some such bull shit.

Posted by: Kreplach at July 01, 2018 03:20 PM (UfMVm)

727 Don't harsh my smugness.


OK, that's fair.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 01, 2018 03:21 PM (fuK7c)

728 Race didn't have the same meaning back then. As recently as mid-century Churchill referred to Americans as a race.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

According to the left, race has ceased to exist, so it has no meaning at all now. Except when they need it to have a meaning.

Posted by: Anonymous White Male at July 01, 2018 03:22 PM (9BLnV)

729
Judge Roy Bean Moore for Justice?

Posted by: Soothsayer -- Follow and Lick Me On Fakebook at July 01, 2018 03:23 PM (6Vp6w)

730 Throughout history, books have had an odious history of being filled with horrible non-progressive ideas. It's 2018. It's about time that we ban books containing backwards, regressive, hateful ideas and embrace love.

Posted by: Illiterate SJWs at July 01, 2018 03:25 PM (IT+uc)

731 Youre invited to nood food.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 03:25 PM (2CQCl)

732 More from the chapter on the science fiction underpinnings of George Clinton's band P-Funk:

"When A Clockwork Orangebrought the codpiece to our attention, Clinton had to wear one the size of a loaf of Wonder Bread, covered in rabbit fur."

Ad astra, Afronauts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5aHD5ruSZ0

Which reminds me of one of my favorite Onion articles.
Dateline - Chocolate City:

https://politics.theonion.com/clinton-threatens-to-drop-da-bomb-on-iraq-1819564617


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 03:25 PM (gUCYC)

733 So, since the Resistance sets the talking points for the media, it's gonna be destroy SCOTUS picks constantly, I guess.

Also, and I don't know why, and I'm sure I'm betraying all women, but I'd rather a male judge be the one to replace Kennedy.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 03:25 PM (H4pHX)

734 ARE YOU DEAF?! NOOD FOOD!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at July 01, 2018 03:27 PM (2CQCl)

735 "Race didn't have the same meaning back then. As recently as mid-century Churchill referred to Americans as a race.

Posted by: Bandersnatch

thx, good point (I assume) ... I like it even better with "Americans as a race". Certainly the individual liberty of America makes us more likely to achieve and advance ... or it did till the commies told us to have fewer kids and to become socialists.

American Exceptionalism ... not sure how that was applied to Darwin's genetic differences though. But there are social aspects to groups/tribes that survive that go beyond genetics.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 01, 2018 03:27 PM (bT8Z4)

736 Once upon a time, billions of years ago, life spontaneously came to be in the form of a single, simple cell.

This simple cell multiplied into a primordial goo.

From this goo evolved the incredible number of diverse and complex life forms we have on the planet.

Riiiight

Posted by: teej at July 01, 2018 03:29 PM (Z7oqE)

737
Which reminds me of one of my favorite Onion articles.

https://politics.theonion.com/clinton-threatens-to-drop-da-bomb-on-iraq-1819564617


Posted by: All Hail Eris

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My favorite:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7kg2gh5

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:29 PM (R+Cqa)

738 According to the left, race has ceased to exist, so it has no meaning at all now. Except when they need it to have a meaning.
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La Raza!

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 01, 2018 03:29 PM (MIKMs)

739 Food up

Posted by: Vic We Have No Party at July 01, 2018 03:30 PM (mpXpK)

740 What the Hell TVGuide?! You have one job, one reason for your existence...TVListings. You keep getting them wrong. Once in awhile...okay. Every week? What a bunch of nutbars.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 03:31 PM (H4pHX)

741 From this goo evolved the incredible number of diverse and complex life forms we have on the planet.




I'm pretty sure I'm still in the goo phase.

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 03:32 PM (H4pHX)

742 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:29 PM (R+Cqa)

A classic! But this is the undisputed apex of Onionism:

https://www.theonion.com/july-21-1969-1819587599

But also:

https://www.theonion.com/sherpa-who-led-neil-armstrong-to-moon-dead-at-71-1819570724

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 03:37 PM (gUCYC)

743 Out on Foot: Nightly Patrols and Ghostly Tales of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent by Rocky Elmore

Highly recommended, gives the reader an idea of conditions on the southern border.

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at July 01, 2018 03:39 PM (bML9A)

744 'More from the chapter on the science fiction underpinnings of George Clinton's band P-Funk: '

I just got back from the auto parts store and they had "Atomic Dog" playing. The cashier was singing along and dancing behind the counter.

Posted by: The Bait-uls at July 01, 2018 03:39 PM (UdKB7)

745 off fab4 sock

Posted by: f'd at July 01, 2018 03:41 PM (UdKB7)

746 platypus, gg

Seems like you haven't been around long but I've enjoyed your comments/humor.

Please stick around

Posted by: teej at July 01, 2018 03:41 PM (Z7oqE)

747 I just got back from the auto parts store and they had "Atomic Dog" playing
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Supergroovalistic!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 01, 2018 03:45 PM (gUCYC)

748 In just a few short hours we are going to have a full blown Marxist running a failed country on our southern border. It's going to be an interesting summer.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 01, 2018 03:13 PM


Told the wife this morning we may have military action on our southern border before summer ends. She always looks at me oddly when she knows I'm going to be right.

I'd set up base camps 20 miles inside Mexico and tell them to fvck off when they get nasty about it. Failed narco-state is failed.

Posted by: Forgot My Nic at July 01, 2018 03:50 PM (LOgQ4)

749 A classic! But this is the undisputed apex of Onionism:

https://www.theonion.com/july-21-1969-1819587599
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The model for 'Scarface'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 01, 2018 03:51 PM (nhAAH)

750 platypus, gg

Seems like you haven't been around long but I've enjoyed your comments/humor.

Please stick around
Posted by: teej at July 01, 2018 03:41 PM (Z7oqE)


That is so nice of you to say. *blushes*

We must be hitting different threads, b/c I made the Wall of Shame last week. O--O

Posted by: platypus, gg channel at July 01, 2018 04:40 PM (H4pHX)

751 As of right now Barbican appears to be $9.99 for Kindle.

Posted by: GWB at July 01, 2018 08:33 PM (wg5e0)

752 The problem I have with The Onion is that when I leave it, I can't tell the difference.

Posted by: ro-man at July 02, 2018 10:20 AM (RuIsu)

753 I'm a lurker, since Ace was making Gamma World references, and I got picked for "The Rough" anthology. Thanks for mentioning it.

Posted by: mpputtre at July 02, 2018 03:56 PM (isGHK)

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