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Sunday Morning Book Thread 01-05-2020
Robert's Book Shop, Lincoln City, OR
Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), beaver cleavers, duck pluckers, doodle dashers, ewe doers, moose goosers, and hog liver likers. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which look like someone was unclear on the concept of camouflage.
Pic Note: Who knew that the little seaside town of Lincoln City, Oregon (population 7,930) has a pretty amazing used bookstore? Moron commenter Kindltot paid them a visit. He e-mailed:
I went to Robert's Bookshop in Lincoln City and took pics. The best bookstores are actually multiple commercial spaces tied together by doorways cut in walls, and generally seem to need the use of a ball of string to make sure you don't get lost.And then, about the photograph:
This one has spears and an assegai over the till, and the nose of a 727 attached to the North wall of the building
It also has a map, which I have never seen before, but is very useful.
It also has knick-knacks all over.
Robert, the owner also collects book cover artwork and displays it above the cases
Here is the longest shot I could get, it goes from the Politics section, up the stairs to the Cats and Handcrafts and Cookbook section, to the Military history and fiction, past the Economics sections (in the foyer of the fire exit door), and on to the model trains, to the locked case with the valuable Gun, Antiques, and Aviation maintenance manuals on the far south wall.Entrance
727 nose
Cashier
Store map
Cover art
these are the Science Fiction area, the Mystery area and some special display books.Science fiction
I spend most of my time there going "oh, my" and wishing I had more time and more money
Mysteries
Display books The book shop is right next door to Lil Sambos Restaurant, and no, it's not part of the now-bankrupt Sambos restaurant chain (a good discussion of its history is here.), but has always been completely independent. There's also a Pig N' Pancake restaurant, part of a chain unique to the Oregon Coast. And the reason I'm telling you all this is that this might be a fun place for the next Pacific Northwest Mo-Me, or perhaps some sort of Pacific Northwest mini-Mo-Me.
It Pays To Increase Your Word Power® fustigate. transitive verb. fus·ti·gat·ed, fus·ti·gat·ing, fus·ti·gates. To beat with a club; cudgel. To criticize harshly.
In reality, she' a very shallow and vain thinker...Trump is gonna fustigate [Elizabeth] Warren, assuming the Dems are dumb enough to steal the primary on her behalf.
Posted by: trev006 at January 02, 2020 11:37 AM (Dij39)
Giving Up A couple of Sundays ago, I was asked this:
28 Mr. Muse: Have you ever been a fan of an author, then one day realize you are completely done with him/her? The first time this happened to me was Ludlum's "Parsifal Mosaic". The last 30 pages rendered the preceding 600 pages irrelevant. With Tom Clancy it was "Sum of All Fears". After 150 pages the plot hadn't yet started, but we got a lot of detail about Jack Ryan choosing his favorite wines. Boy did that need an editor. More recently I quit Harlan Coben when I got tired of reading the same story over and over. Also, once you realize he has zero wasted characters, you come to realize that the bait shop attendant (or who ever) briefly mentioned in passing will be a major character.Many of you morons provided examples of authors you gave up on, like, as above, Clancy and Robert Ludlum and Lee Childs, but the one I gave up on was Robert Heinlein. It was just after I finished I Will Fear No Evil and thought "ugh, this is just porn." I believed his butter has slipped off his noodles, and I started calling the publication of that novel his Dirty Old Man phase. Perhaps that's not quite fair, but I was tired of reading about the characters having sex or talking about having sex, sometimes incestuous and sometimes with minors. But then I dipped back in a few years later when Friday was published (1982?). I was curious about what Heinlein had been up to, and it turned out to be good old Heinlein space opera. And it has a great opening paragraph:
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 22, 2019 09:21 AM (d9Cw3)
As I left the Kenya Beanstalk capsule he was right on my heels. He followed me through the door leading to Customs, Health, and Immigration. As the door contracted behind him I killed him.So I went back and picked up Time Enough For Love, and oh my, it was porny. But it had some good parts, too, including the bittersweet "Tale of the Adopted Daughter" which reads kind of like a western novel. And the part where Lazarus and Dora are settling a remote area of some distant planet, and they're out there all by themselves, working their butts off getting their farm going, and then one day some visitors show up, a man and his two sons, and it just slowly gets creepy and could almost be a Twilight Zone episode. Anyway, stuff like that, that's the good Heinlein, the Heinlein I prefer to remember. It's not so much authors I give up on, it's series. Lately, I'm finding I have no patience with "series" type books. Karl Gallagher's Torchship Trilogy series, about the crew of a ship that makes its living hauling cargo and passengers from one planet to the next. Kind of like Firefly. I read the first book and that was it. This is not the fault of the author. He did not write a bad book. It is well-written and the characters and plot were held my interest, but I don't know, when I got to the end of the first book, I just felt it was time to move on. It's difficult to explain. But there's always the chance I'll want to come back to it at some point later on.
Signal Boost
Can you imagine what President Trump recommending a book to his 63+ million Twitter followers will do for sales? Amazon lists it as a #1 best-seller in Historiography, and perhaps that's why. So let's take a look at it. In Restoring Our Republic: The Making of the Republic and How We Reclaim It Before It's Too Late, author Ned RyunThis is a great book, a must read! https://t.co/bwpNVi5hpY
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2020
...examines the genesis for the ideas which inspired our constitutional republic, from the ancient Hebrews, Greeks and Romans to the English and their common law. Ryun also discusses the machinery of the republic built by the Founders meant to protect the rights of the American people and how that machinery has been dismantled by Progressives.The author, Ned Ryun, is the founder and CEO of American Majority, a conservative organization that identifies and trains candidates and activists who will become involved in local government, school district governance, or state legislatures. The Kindle edition of his book is $9.99.
He traces the history of our country's founding and how the Founding Fathers studied the course of human history in crafting a form of government that would constrain the powers of the government and protect our God-given rights. Ned Ryun covers everything from the Birth of American Society, Rights Enumerated, to the necessary Civil Involvement to restore our great country. This book gave me a much greater appreciation for what we as Americans have been given. In the face of aggressive socialism, we must respond by returning to the values and principles our country was founded upon.
Who Dis:
Last week's 'who dis' was Henry Fonda
Moron Recommendations
10 Didn't this year but thinking I need to get Rush's history books for my niece's daughter.This is the 5-book "Rush Revere" series, written for children ages 8-12. The first one is Rush Revere and the Brave Pilgrims: Time-Travel Adventures with Exceptional Americans and it covers the time from the voyage of the Mayflower to the first Thanksgiving. You can buy the hardcover 4-book series as a package, but apparently a 5th was published subsequently, so you can buy the 5-book bundle, but it's so expensive, it looks like it might be less expensive to buy the 4-book package and then the 5th book, Rush Revere and the Presidency, separately. ___________
Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2019 09:04 AM (ZCEU2)
65 I'm also dabbling with The Hidden Origins of Islam.Did not know there was a book by this title, but The Hidden Origins of Islam: New Research into Its Early History, edited by Karl-Heinz Ohlig and published in 2009:
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at December 29, 2019 09:29 AM (cfSRQ)
Despite Muhammad's exalted place in Islam, even today there is still surpisingly little actually known about this shadowy figure and the origins of the Qur'an because of an astounding lack of verifiable biographical material. Furthermore, most of the existing biographical traditions that can be used to substantiate the life of Muhammad date to nearly two centuries after his death, a time when a powerful, expansive, and idealized empire had become synonymous with his name and vision - thus resulting in an exaggerated and often artificial characterization of the prophetic figure coupled with many questionable interpretations of the holy book of Islam.Curious to know if moron commenter boulder t'hobo has read this book, which apparently is available only in a hardcover edition. ___________
On the basis of datable and localizable artifacts from the seventh and eighth centuries of the Christian era, many of the historical developments, misconceptions, and fallacies of Islam can now be seen in a different light. Excavated coins that predate Islam and the old inscription in the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem utilize symbols used in a documented Syrian Arabic theology - a theology with Christian roots.Interpreting traditional contexts of historical evidence and rereading passages of the Qur'an, the researchers in this thought-provoking volume unveil a surprising - and highly unconventional - picture of the very foundations of Islamic religious history.
381 Was pretty excited to pick up a copy of Red Right Hand by Chris Holm, since The Killing Kind was so very good. Very much a letdown - it was a decent book, but not to the level of The Killing Kind.So let's take a look at The Killing Kind, since it appears to be the better book:
Posted by: Charlotte at December 29, 2019 01:25 PM (Aj6Tl)
Michael Hendricks kills people for money. That aside, he's not so bad a guy.Sounds like an action-packed thriller, for $9.99 on Kindle. ___________ So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm. What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.
Once a covert operative for a false-flag unit of the US military, Hendricks was presumed dead after a mission in Afghanistan went sideways. He left behind his old life--and beloved fiancée--and set out on a path of redemption...or perhaps one of willful self-destruction.
Now Hendricks makes his living as a hitman entrepreneur of sorts--he only hits other hitmen. For ten times the price on your head, he'll make sure whoever's coming to kill you winds up in the ground instead. Not a bad way for a guy with his skill-set to make a living--but a great way to make himself a target.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Tolle Lege
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 09:00 AM (ZCEU2)
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Morning all!
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 09:00 AM (U7k5w)
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Good morning fellow Book Threadists. Hope everyone had a nice New Years and a great week of reading.
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 09:02 AM (7EjX1)
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Almost finished Bernard Cornwell's Sharpe's Fortress and as I often do with military history start looking things up. So if you have read it before or just interested found a short 4 minute video of the place
https://youtu.be/mVXP4vCPCwg
https://youtu.be/mVXP4vCPCwg
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 09:03 AM (ZCEU2)
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That owl looks like he's about to enjoy a huge dinner, being tired of pretending he's at peace with the prey.
This was not much of a reading week. Grandkids were here most of the week, so most of my reading was to them. I cracked out a nice older copy of Aesop's fables and worked on the morals of the stories.
This was not much of a reading week. Grandkids were here most of the week, so most of my reading was to them. I cracked out a nice older copy of Aesop's fables and worked on the morals of the stories.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 09:05 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:05 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Mary Burton Forgotten Files Books 1 2 and 3 finished all last week.
Nothing really brain provoking, just relaxation.
I have the Gulag Archipelago but just cannot get started.
Nothing really brain provoking, just relaxation.
I have the Gulag Archipelago but just cannot get started.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:05 AM (JFO2v)
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you had me at pig and pancake.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 09:07 AM (n13/j)
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"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Groucho Marx, American Marxist. The funneh kind.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
- Groucho Marx, American Marxist. The funneh kind.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Impeach the Democrat Traitors Instead at January 05, 2020 09:07 AM (HaL55)
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Good morning, book threadists! Nothing much this week, save about a third into one of Alma Boykin's Colplatschi series ... and all the Christmas ornaments and the tree taken down and safely stowed in the garage for next Christmas. For writing, only working on the backlog of Amazon Vine reviews...
At a bit past ten, the Daughter Unit and I are going over to the Ikea store for breakfast. (The Ikea cafeteria is a loss-leader; the menu is limited, but the food is good, and quite inexpensive.)
At a bit past ten, the Daughter Unit and I are going over to the Ikea store for breakfast. (The Ikea cafeteria is a loss-leader; the menu is limited, but the food is good, and quite inexpensive.)
Posted by: Sgt. Mom at January 05, 2020 09:08 AM (xnmPy)
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Picked up Tolstoy's War and Peace for a buck for the Kindle. This is my second go round after quite a few years. I don't think I'm gonna make it to the end this time. 
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 05, 2020 09:08 AM (EgshT)
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Here is the longest shot I could get, it goes from the Politics section, up the stairs to the Cats and Handcrafts and Cookbook section, to the Military history and fiction, past the Economics sections (in the foyer of the fire exit door), and on to the model trains, to the locked case with the valuable Gun, Antiques, and Aviation maintenance manuals on the far south wall.
😳
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Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 09:08 AM (t+qrx)
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Thanks to whoever suggested “The Only Plane in the Sky: an Oral History of 9/11” by Garrett W. Graff.
Astronaut Frank Culbertson, aboard the ISS, was the only American off the planet on that day. When Ground Control notified him of the situation, he found a video camera and a window facing New England. From 400 miles above, he could see the big black plume of smoke rising from NYC and billowing out over the Atlantic.
Assuming there would be other attacks across the country, he and the other astronauts set up cameras for their next pass over North America. “One of the most startling effects was that within about two orbits, all the contrails normally crisscrossing the United States had disappeared because they had grounded all the airplanes and there was nobody else flying in U.S. airspace except for one airplane that was leaving a contrail from the central U.S. toward Washington. That was Air Force One heading back to D.C. with President Bush.”
How would you like to be the ticket agent who worked hard to get late passengers checked in? “Mr. Atta, if you don’t go now you’ll miss your plane.” After the attacks, his coworkers wouldn’t talk to him.
Couldn't help but notice the preponderance of Italian and Irish names with the police, fireman, and other first responders.
Astronaut Frank Culbertson, aboard the ISS, was the only American off the planet on that day. When Ground Control notified him of the situation, he found a video camera and a window facing New England. From 400 miles above, he could see the big black plume of smoke rising from NYC and billowing out over the Atlantic.
Assuming there would be other attacks across the country, he and the other astronauts set up cameras for their next pass over North America. “One of the most startling effects was that within about two orbits, all the contrails normally crisscrossing the United States had disappeared because they had grounded all the airplanes and there was nobody else flying in U.S. airspace except for one airplane that was leaving a contrail from the central U.S. toward Washington. That was Air Force One heading back to D.C. with President Bush.”
How would you like to be the ticket agent who worked hard to get late passengers checked in? “Mr. Atta, if you don’t go now you’ll miss your plane.” After the attacks, his coworkers wouldn’t talk to him.
Couldn't help but notice the preponderance of Italian and Irish names with the police, fireman, and other first responders.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:08 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Robert's Bookstore looks like it is the definition of "nooks and crannies"
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2020 09:08 AM (EZebt)
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Who dis? Deborah Kerr
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (MLfDH)
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This week's 'these pants' example caused a horrifying flashback to the Disco era. The girls' outfits were often quite attractive, often revealing, which was fine. The guys' clothing made them look like tasteless fops. Another fad, like the Hippie BS, I spared myself. Bad enough to see it on others.
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (7EjX1)
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Hello everyone!
Writing update: I sent the ms for Vampires of Michigan to my editor, so I should know what he thinks pretty soon. Assuming he doesn't declare it to be awful, publication will take place later this month. I'll let OM know when it goes live.
Writing update: I sent the ms for Vampires of Michigan to my editor, so I should know what he thinks pretty soon. Assuming he doesn't declare it to be awful, publication will take place later this month. I'll let OM know when it goes live.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:11 AM (cfSRQ)
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I've actually been to that town, one of my old gf's has a house in Lincoln City. It's a 2 hour trip on a one lane road to Portland.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 05, 2020 09:11 AM (EZebt)
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I do remember Sven's 'fustigate' comment, but was too lazy at the time to look it up. Thank you, OM!
Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2020 09:11 AM (LBYpQ)
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re: "Giving Up"
The last Neal Stephenson worth reading is Anathem, which is one of his best. I haven't bothered finishing anything after that.
The last Neal Stephenson worth reading is Anathem, which is one of his best. I haven't bothered finishing anything after that.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 09:12 AM (t+qrx)
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I love that Robert's displays book cover art. Book design is an art form in itself, like album covers.
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:12 AM (MLfDH)
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Good morning!
Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Been reading comfort books by Byron Farwell.
Mr. Kipling's Army and Queen Victoria's Little Wars.
The first is exceptional military sociology, replete with fascinating characters, the second is exotic, but sound, military history, with a focus on growth of Empire through local decisions, and the campaigns thereof.
He had a droll sense of humor. I've read most of his other books, but these are his best. Concise, fun, and incisive.
I recommend these unreservedly to our smart military blog.
Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Been reading comfort books by Byron Farwell.
Mr. Kipling's Army and Queen Victoria's Little Wars.
The first is exceptional military sociology, replete with fascinating characters, the second is exotic, but sound, military history, with a focus on growth of Empire through local decisions, and the campaigns thereof.
He had a droll sense of humor. I've read most of his other books, but these are his best. Concise, fun, and incisive.
I recommend these unreservedly to our smart military blog.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 09:12 AM (u82oZ)
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Book reader June Allison? (sp)
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 05, 2020 09:13 AM (N3JsI)
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Good Sunday morning, horde!
That bookstore looks like a place I could wander for days.
So, Happy New Year, and the beginning of another Goodreads book-reading goal. I have not met my goal of 52 books in either of the previous two years, so maybe I'll give up some distractions this year and have at it again.
I am starting with Wild Swans by Jung Chang, which is a memoir of a Chinese woman, her mother, and her grandmother. It spans a timeframe from before Communism to present day.
That bookstore looks like a place I could wander for days.
So, Happy New Year, and the beginning of another Goodreads book-reading goal. I have not met my goal of 52 books in either of the previous two years, so maybe I'll give up some distractions this year and have at it again.
I am starting with Wild Swans by Jung Chang, which is a memoir of a Chinese woman, her mother, and her grandmother. It spans a timeframe from before Communism to present day.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:15 AM (OX9vb)
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I read "Soul Code" by Sabrina Chase. Wow, a danged fine book. This is the finale of her Argonauts of Space trilogy and like her other two books in this trilogy it was difficult to put down. The book ended with plenty of questions to be answered in a fourth book.
Some head music:
Charley Pride - All His Children
https://youtu.be/L6Mfkis2gSE
Cari Cari - No War
https://youtu.be/9efZM_HwT3k
Randy Newman - Baltimore
https://youtu.be/_TvDge63Iy8
Some head music:
Charley Pride - All His Children
https://youtu.be/L6Mfkis2gSE
Cari Cari - No War
https://youtu.be/9efZM_HwT3k
Randy Newman - Baltimore
https://youtu.be/_TvDge63Iy8
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at January 05, 2020 09:16 AM (P1GvV)
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24: Nah, tis Kerr
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 09:16 AM (U7k5w)
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Scrolls for the scroll throne
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)
*scratches head*
Does this mean "the toilet paper roll is out"?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)
*scratches head*
Does this mean "the toilet paper roll is out"?
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 09:16 AM (t+qrx)
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I indulged my shallow side (I say “side”, but it’s about 85% of me) with a brace of books on very photogenic rock ‘n’ roll subjects: “Debbie Harry and Blondie: Picture This” by Mick Rock, and “Bowie by O’Neill: the Definitive Collection with Unseen Images”
On Debbie Harry, about whom Rock said he was incapable of taking a bad picture: “The reflective power of the dyed blonde is more potent than the natural.” There are great band pics and some nice hipster-domestic ones of her and Chris Stein.
The Bowie collection covers it all from glam-alien-who-fell-to-Earth to Thin White Duke to just DB.
“I reinvented my image so many times that I’m in denial that I was originally an overweight Korean woman.”
On Debbie Harry, about whom Rock said he was incapable of taking a bad picture: “The reflective power of the dyed blonde is more potent than the natural.” There are great band pics and some nice hipster-domestic ones of her and Chris Stein.
The Bowie collection covers it all from glam-alien-who-fell-to-Earth to Thin White Duke to just DB.
“I reinvented my image so many times that I’m in denial that I was originally an overweight Korean woman.”
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Well, this week I gave up half way through The Passenger From Scotland Yard (H Freeman Wood). It's one of those Dover reprints, and the intro has the gall to say it's the best one between Collins and Doyle. I guess if you like everything over written to death. Descriptions, dialogue, even action are given with insufferable repetitiveness.
My effort of finally getting around to odd mysteries I'd picked up here and there over the years has been pretty unsatisfactory. There are a lot of bad ones out there. (Can't recall the title, but Tolkein's grandson wrote one. In that case, it might have been puzzling for a first grader. About the easiest "mystery" I've read.)
I am grateful for A H Lloyd's heads up on The Spanish Civil War. It's not the usual paeon to the Commies.
My effort of finally getting around to odd mysteries I'd picked up here and there over the years has been pretty unsatisfactory. There are a lot of bad ones out there. (Can't recall the title, but Tolkein's grandson wrote one. In that case, it might have been puzzling for a first grader. About the easiest "mystery" I've read.)
I am grateful for A H Lloyd's heads up on The Spanish Civil War. It's not the usual paeon to the Commies.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:17 AM (ZbwAu)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Last week's Chess thread hottie sent me on an internet search to find out about her. Turns out Carroll Baker is an author and still goes out on book pimping tours in her late eighties.
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:17 AM (MLfDH)
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I read "Thank You For My Service" by Mat Best. It's his memoirs of his time with the Army Rangers, as a private security consultant in L.A., five years as a ### contractor (the ### is redacted throughout the book), and as a business entrepreneur.
It's a quick read and with the exception of his obsession with describing his sexploits it's a fun read. Best is a co-founder and V.P. of Black Rifle Coffee Co. and a yousetube star (his videos are a hoot).
It's a quick read and with the exception of his obsession with describing his sexploits it's a fun read. Best is a co-founder and V.P. of Black Rifle Coffee Co. and a yousetube star (his videos are a hoot).
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at January 05, 2020 09:18 AM (P1GvV)
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Reading Update: I'm now in Moria, savoring the prose of LotR, particularly the sparse description. Some of the dialogue (particularly in Rivendell) sticks out as really awkward for the situation, and is clearly designed to have a character tell the reader something.
Since I'm trying to imagine the spoken word, it stands out.
The Hidden Origins of Islam just smacked me with an essay that I had to flip past. Totally over my head. The guy was refereeing a fight I didn't see in a martial arts style I never heard of and citing foreign language sources as authorities.
I couldn't even pretend to skim it.
Ibn Warrq's essay on Islamic criticism is very good, though, and reasonably accessible.
Since I'm trying to imagine the spoken word, it stands out.
The Hidden Origins of Islam just smacked me with an essay that I had to flip past. Totally over my head. The guy was refereeing a fight I didn't see in a martial arts style I never heard of and citing foreign language sources as authorities.
I couldn't even pretend to skim it.
Ibn Warrq's essay on Islamic criticism is very good, though, and reasonably accessible.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:18 AM (cfSRQ)
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Renaissance Book Shop in downtown Milwaukee used to be my favorite bookstore, many moons ago. I'd even schedule business in Milwaukee just so I could visit. No idea if it is still there, but it used to be located in several old buildings on multiple floors, with slightly off connections from building to building. Bought most of my best Wodehouse editions there.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 05, 2020 09:20 AM (NVYyb)
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A Seal Fustigater sounds like a coveted and honored profession.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:20 AM (JFO2v)
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Oh how cruel to extol the virtues of things the eyeless cannot cherish.
Posted by: Davros at January 05, 2020 09:21 AM (FLoM/)
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Who dis is Olivia de Haviland
Posted by: Dread0 at January 05, 2020 09:22 AM (thwGF)
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32. Well, Carroll Baker didn't actually send me on a search...but I wouldn't mind talking to her. She sounds pretty down to earth.
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:23 AM (MLfDH)
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Those pants are fine. I would wear them to a barbeque in Ed's back yard.
Posted by: Doc Severinsen at January 05, 2020 09:23 AM (Tnijr)
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I noticed several books on history are on the Kindle Daily Deals, today only list. These have all been mentioned on the book thread at one time or another. Just FYI.
"Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" $1.99
"Washington's Immortals" $1.99
"Grant Takes Command" Bruce Catton $1.99
"Grant Moves South" Bruce Catton $1.99
"Never Look At The Empty Seats" a memoire by Charlie Daniels $1.99 (Just because I like Charlie Daniels)
"Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" $1.99
"Washington's Immortals" $1.99
"Grant Takes Command" Bruce Catton $1.99
"Grant Moves South" Bruce Catton $1.99
"Never Look At The Empty Seats" a memoire by Charlie Daniels $1.99 (Just because I like Charlie Daniels)
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (7EjX1)
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Hidden Origins of Islam is good stuff, but it is mostly pointing out problems (ie, there isn't much historical or archeological documentation, and what there is goes against the story told later by Arab historians).
I like Dan Gibson's Petra theories, because they give a positive reason for cover-up and making things up from wholecloth. But I don't think anybody knows what was really going on.
I like Dan Gibson's Petra theories, because they give a positive reason for cover-up and making things up from wholecloth. But I don't think anybody knows what was really going on.
Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (sF8WE)
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I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
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Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 05, 2020 09:08 AM (EgshT)
I am going to try War and Peace again this year. The last time, I chose a translation in which the author determined that the French dialogue portions must not be translated into English, for, um, authenticity or some such.
Well, that was not helpful. Authenticity isn't all it's cracked up to be, author dumbass, and is just elitist posturing on your part.
I am going to try War and Peace again this year. The last time, I chose a translation in which the author determined that the French dialogue portions must not be translated into English, for, um, authenticity or some such.
Well, that was not helpful. Authenticity isn't all it's cracked up to be, author dumbass, and is just elitist posturing on your part.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:25 AM (OX9vb)
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Only author I ever gave up on was Laurel Hamilton and her Anita Blake series.
Went from gritty noir supernatural detective to porn without a plot.
Not reading anything new at the moment so I'm rereading Nikita Thorns 'Bushido Online' series and Dean Henegar 'Limitless Lands' series. Both are LitRPG books.
Went from gritty noir supernatural detective to porn without a plot.
Not reading anything new at the moment so I'm rereading Nikita Thorns 'Bushido Online' series and Dean Henegar 'Limitless Lands' series. Both are LitRPG books.
Posted by: warren at January 05, 2020 09:26 AM (oWwS0)
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OM, Thanks for the illustrations you've been including in the book thread. They are a weekly delight. And the cartoon is clever and F'ing hilarious.
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 09:26 AM (7EjX1)
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May I proffer some Amazon tech support.
Click on your account
GO to Your Amazon Profile
There will be a box Who You Follow
Click on that to list all of the authors your follow.
At top of the list you will see
Your Follow updates
This list All new releases and updates
regards
Click on your account
GO to Your Amazon Profile
There will be a box Who You Follow
Click on that to list all of the authors your follow.
At top of the list you will see
Your Follow updates
This list All new releases and updates
regards
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:26 AM (JFO2v)
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Haven't read a damn thing this week except for Bar Review materials.
And can we all chip in for a better phone for willow?
And can we all chip in for a better phone for willow?
Posted by: RI Red at January 05, 2020 09:26 AM (2OvTd)
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29. Documentary photography is always a good read, but especially when it presents personalities who formed the soundtrack to your youth.
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:27 AM (MLfDH)
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I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
I believe Dorothy L. Sayers quit writing about Lord Peter Whimsey because she was growing much too fond of him.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
I believe Dorothy L. Sayers quit writing about Lord Peter Whimsey because she was growing much too fond of him.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 05, 2020 09:28 AM (lwiT4)
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43 I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Most people fall in love with at least partially imaginary characters. I think book characters are a few levels above ones from movies or TV.
I haven't had this experience since I was a kid.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Most people fall in love with at least partially imaginary characters. I think book characters are a few levels above ones from movies or TV.
I haven't had this experience since I was a kid.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 09:28 AM (U7k5w)
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Many of you morons provided examples of authors you gave up on, like, as
above, Clancy and Robert Ludlum and Lee Childs, but the one I gave up
on was Robert Heinlein.
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This is my great fear. I try to limit my writings to situations where I have to say something, irrespective of whether it will sell.
A lot of authors write purely for economic reasons. I write for the pleasure of writing and while I'd love fame and fortune, I don't know if I could sell out to the point of machining out genre pieces, which seems to be common.
I suppose at some point I'll run out of things to say, but I've already written eight novels and a set of wargaming rules. A sequel to Battle Officer Wolf would get me into double digits, which I think is plenty for a dabbler with two other careers and several neglected hobbies.
above, Clancy and Robert Ludlum and Lee Childs, but the one I gave up
on was Robert Heinlein.
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This is my great fear. I try to limit my writings to situations where I have to say something, irrespective of whether it will sell.
A lot of authors write purely for economic reasons. I write for the pleasure of writing and while I'd love fame and fortune, I don't know if I could sell out to the point of machining out genre pieces, which seems to be common.
I suppose at some point I'll run out of things to say, but I've already written eight novels and a set of wargaming rules. A sequel to Battle Officer Wolf would get me into double digits, which I think is plenty for a dabbler with two other careers and several neglected hobbies.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:28 AM (cfSRQ)
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A couple weeks ago I started "The Gift", Nabokov's last full length novel written in Russian. He wrote this in the 30s, during a real creative roll he was on, but it took him a long time to complete it (he completed other works and short stories while laboring away on this) and it was first published piecemeal before some insightful publisher said "let's put out the whole fucking thing". It's pretty much an ode to Russian literature and a tribute to his father; Vlad can argue all he damn well wants that it's not autobiographical but there are certain things that tie back to elements of his life. I mean you write about what you know amirite?
Anyway it was a bit confusing at the start but now I'm up to speed and it's just pure joy every step of the way and I can see why this is included in the short list of his masterpieces.
After I'm done with this and any odd short stories left in his Russian years I've got a decision on whether to continue with the American volume of his biography. I've read most of the full length novels already, except Ada which is pretty major, and I know fucking A well that when they talk about his book on Gogol that I'll read everything Gogol wrote just to find out what he's talking about. And, you know, enjoyment. I've got a biography of Danilo Kis that I feel compelled to read before I cast off the mortal coil so decisions, decisions...
Anyway it was a bit confusing at the start but now I'm up to speed and it's just pure joy every step of the way and I can see why this is included in the short list of his masterpieces.
After I'm done with this and any odd short stories left in his Russian years I've got a decision on whether to continue with the American volume of his biography. I've read most of the full length novels already, except Ada which is pretty major, and I know fucking A well that when they talk about his book on Gogol that I'll read everything Gogol wrote just to find out what he's talking about. And, you know, enjoyment. I've got a biography of Danilo Kis that I feel compelled to read before I cast off the mortal coil so decisions, decisions...
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 09:29 AM (y7DUB)
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43 I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Yes. Allie, the girl in the greenhouse, in Walker Percy's "The Second Coming."
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Yes. Allie, the girl in the greenhouse, in Walker Percy's "The Second Coming."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:29 AM (H8QX8)
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I gave up on Laurel Hamilton when I lost track of how many people/not actually people she was having sex with at one time or multiple times or all the time. See what I mean?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:29 AM (QzF6i)
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I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
So that's where my diary went!
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
So that's where my diary went!
Posted by: RI Red at January 05, 2020 09:31 AM (2OvTd)
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I believe Dorothy L. Sayers quit writing about Lord Peter Whimsey because she was growing much too fond of him.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 05, 2020 09:28 AM (lwiT4)
I read this too. I suspect that's why she married him off.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 05, 2020 09:28 AM (lwiT4)
I read this too. I suspect that's why she married him off.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 09:31 AM (U7k5w)
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I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Does Smurfette count?
Anyone else have this happen?
Does Smurfette count?
Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at January 05, 2020 09:31 AM (EgshT)
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Lil' Sambo turned the tiger to butter by making him chase his tiger tail until he melted if I remember right.
The lady is Hillary before the darkening and the finding of the ring.
More coffee.
The lady is Hillary before the darkening and the finding of the ring.
More coffee.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 05, 2020 09:32 AM (Z+IKu)
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Totally agree about Heinlein. Russell Hoban also seemed to succumb to the "Dirty Old Man" syndrome. To me, the best Heinlein were his "juveniles", starting with Rocket Ship Gallileo and ending with Have Space Suit, Will Travel. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress was good, Door into Summer was very good, and Orphans of the Sky was good.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at January 05, 2020 09:32 AM (PiwSw)
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I believe Dorothy L. Sayers quit writing about Lord Peter Whimsey because she was growing much too fond of him.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 05, 2020 09:28 AM (lwiT4)
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In its advance form, this becomes Mary Sue.
I could see early on that Jack Ryan was becoming Tom Clancy's Mary Sue and it killed my interest in his writing.
And as I said last week, going back and looking at him with the benefit of more exposure to quality writing, he really was a hack. People liked him in spite of his writing style, not because of it.
The guy couldn't turn a phrase with a wrench.
I believe Dorothy L. Sayers quit writing about Lord Peter Whimsey because she was growing much too fond of him.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 05, 2020 09:28 AM (lwiT4)
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In its advance form, this becomes Mary Sue.
I could see early on that Jack Ryan was becoming Tom Clancy's Mary Sue and it killed my interest in his writing.
And as I said last week, going back and looking at him with the benefit of more exposure to quality writing, he really was a hack. People liked him in spite of his writing style, not because of it.
The guy couldn't turn a phrase with a wrench.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:32 AM (cfSRQ)
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I gave up on Laurel Hamilton when I lost track of how many people/not
actually people she was having sex with at one time or multiple times or
all the time. See what I mean?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:29 AM (QzF6i)
I always wondered if the first 11 books were written by her ex husband because after he left the books just became Mary Sue porn without a plot.
I gave up on Laurel Hamilton when I lost track of how many people/not
actually people she was having sex with at one time or multiple times or
all the time. See what I mean?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:29 AM (QzF6i)
I always wondered if the first 11 books were written by her ex husband because after he left the books just became Mary Sue porn without a plot.
Posted by: warren at January 05, 2020 09:33 AM (oWwS0)
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Came back with a stack of books on arctic exploration after reading an excellent article on same in "History", the NatGeo magazine that is a lot better than National Geographic these days:
"Bound By Ice", about the USS Jeanette; "Erebus", about its missions and disappearance during the Franklin expedition; "The Ice Diaries", on the nuclear sub USS Nautilus's travels under the polar ice cap; and "Unknown Waters", the USS Queenfish's under-ice survey of the Siberian coast.
"Bound By Ice", about the USS Jeanette; "Erebus", about its missions and disappearance during the Franklin expedition; "The Ice Diaries", on the nuclear sub USS Nautilus's travels under the polar ice cap; and "Unknown Waters", the USS Queenfish's under-ice survey of the Siberian coast.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:33 AM (Dc2NZ)
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>>>Have you ever been a fan of an author, then one day realize you are completely done with him/her?<<<
I love it when the author completely kills off all of the characters at the end of the book. Closure.
I love it when the author completely kills off all of the characters at the end of the book. Closure.
Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2020 09:33 AM (zD38/)
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60 Totally agree about Heinlein. Russell Hoban also seemed to succumb to the "Dirty Old Man" syndrome. To me, the best Heinlein were his "juveniles", starting with Rocket Ship Gallileo and ending with Have Space Suit, Will Travel. The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress was good, Door into Summer was very good, and Orphans of the Sky was good.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at January 05, 2020 09:32 AM (PiwSw)
And The Number of the Beast was just authorial self-gratifuckation.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at January 05, 2020 09:32 AM (PiwSw)
And The Number of the Beast was just authorial self-gratifuckation.
Posted by: RI Red at January 05, 2020 09:34 AM (2OvTd)
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I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Yes, Garp's wife and Mordecai Richler's lead character's wife in "Joshua Then and Now" both made it move. That counts, right?
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Yes, Garp's wife and Mordecai Richler's lead character's wife in "Joshua Then and Now" both made it move. That counts, right?
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 09:35 AM (y7DUB)
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Another Christmas book was a disappointment. From Imperial Splendour to Internment: The German Navy in the First World War (Nicholas Wolz). The best parts are simply quotations from diaries he had access to.
But his knowledge of the fleets and their use is just not impressive. And the understanding is, well, try this: He calls the fact that officers of both navies believed that they were committed in honor to die, if need be, for king and country, an "archaic" attitude. Really? Can there be any successful military whose officers (and men) DON'T take that view? (OK, the "king" part varies by nation.)
Fortunately it was cheap.
The Buxton book on Monitors is good. Lots and lots of detail, with the most important part that's often missing, a discussion of WHY the ships were built and used as they were. Shows Norman Friedman's influence.
But his knowledge of the fleets and their use is just not impressive. And the understanding is, well, try this: He calls the fact that officers of both navies believed that they were committed in honor to die, if need be, for king and country, an "archaic" attitude. Really? Can there be any successful military whose officers (and men) DON'T take that view? (OK, the "king" part varies by nation.)
Fortunately it was cheap.
The Buxton book on Monitors is good. Lots and lots of detail, with the most important part that's often missing, a discussion of WHY the ships were built and used as they were. Shows Norman Friedman's influence.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:35 AM (ZbwAu)
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66 I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Esther Summerson in Dickens's Bleak House.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
Esther Summerson in Dickens's Bleak House.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at January 05, 2020 09:37 AM (PiwSw)
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1 Books for the book god
Scrolls for the scroll throne
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)
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And who gets the pants?
Scrolls for the scroll throne
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:00 AM (Dc2NZ)
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And who gets the pants?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:38 AM (ZbwAu)
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Those pants burned my eyes out.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 05, 2020 09:38 AM (VcFUs)
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The Folio Society is having a sale:
https://www.foliosociety.com/usa
I've never ordered their versions but some of them look delicious.
That "WTF Mr. Feynman" book that many morons seem to love is in the collection.
https://www.foliosociety.com/usa
I've never ordered their versions but some of them look delicious.
That "WTF Mr. Feynman" book that many morons seem to love is in the collection.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:39 AM (Dc2NZ)
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29
Eris, one of the things I always appreciated about Bowie was that he didn't stay stuck in a musical past, and was always moving forward.
I didn't always like the result, but I liked that he was creative enough to always have something new going on.
Eris, one of the things I always appreciated about Bowie was that he didn't stay stuck in a musical past, and was always moving forward.
I didn't always like the result, but I liked that he was creative enough to always have something new going on.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:40 AM (OX9vb)
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For those who don't know Weber is gonna finish(with the families permission) Pournelle's last book in the Mamelukes series. Pournelle finished about 80% of it when he passed away.
First 5 snippets are at Weber's forum
First 5 snippets are at Weber's forum
Posted by: warren at January 05, 2020 09:40 AM (oWwS0)
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Authors I've given up on include the one's mentioned above. Heinlein when he reached his creepy, dirty old man stage. Ludlum after one book. Clancy, Clavell and King when they became too big to edit. Do you really need a thousand pages to tell this story? Still reading Sandford, at least his Virgil Flowers books. His Lucas Davenport and Connelly's Bosch are on a short leash. The bodies pile up and I don't think any department would allow a killing machine on payroll but, hey, it's fiction. Read a couple of Silva's but they seemed to be the same book over and over.
Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at January 05, 2020 09:41 AM (XHdLb)
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On the subject of authors falling in love with characters, I haven't felt that at all, although I do enjoy many of them.
My favorite character from Man of Destiny is Jermah Macro.
MINOR SPOILER ALERT
He doesn't die. He was originally slated to die, but he was just too enjoyable to write. We all need someone like him - witty, totally, shamelessly corrupt but still possessing a semblance of a moral core.
Battle Officer Wold himself was great fun to write. If you have read it, imagine me laughing out loud as I write his scenes, because I was.
That's why I'm a bit worried about my latest entry. Partly because of the subject matter, I'm not super-attached to any of the characters. It's kind of like "Justified" where you have a lot of bad people doing bad things to each other. It amused me and there was a character I intended to kill but decided to spare him because I wanted him to suffer even more in future books.
My favorite character from Man of Destiny is Jermah Macro.
MINOR SPOILER ALERT
He doesn't die. He was originally slated to die, but he was just too enjoyable to write. We all need someone like him - witty, totally, shamelessly corrupt but still possessing a semblance of a moral core.
Battle Officer Wold himself was great fun to write. If you have read it, imagine me laughing out loud as I write his scenes, because I was.
That's why I'm a bit worried about my latest entry. Partly because of the subject matter, I'm not super-attached to any of the characters. It's kind of like "Justified" where you have a lot of bad people doing bad things to each other. It amused me and there was a character I intended to kill but decided to spare him because I wanted him to suffer even more in future books.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:41 AM (cfSRQ)
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And who gets the pants?
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No need for pants in the Book THread!
*luxuriates in faux qiana shorty robe*
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No need for pants in the Book THread!
*luxuriates in faux qiana shorty robe*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:41 AM (Dc2NZ)
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23 Good morning!
Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Been reading comfort books by Byron Farwell.
Mr. Kipling's Army and Queen Victoria's Little Wars.
The first is exceptional military sociology, replete with fascinating characters, the second is exotic, but sound, military history, with a focus on growth of Empire through local decisions, and the campaigns thereof.
He had a droll sense of humor. I've read most of his other books, but these are his best. Concise, fun, and incisive.
I recommend these unreservedly to our smart military blog.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 09:12 AM (u82oZ)
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Farwell is fun. I'd include The Gurkhas among his best. though. But Kipling's Army has to be the most fun.
Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Been reading comfort books by Byron Farwell.
Mr. Kipling's Army and Queen Victoria's Little Wars.
The first is exceptional military sociology, replete with fascinating characters, the second is exotic, but sound, military history, with a focus on growth of Empire through local decisions, and the campaigns thereof.
He had a droll sense of humor. I've read most of his other books, but these are his best. Concise, fun, and incisive.
I recommend these unreservedly to our smart military blog.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 09:12 AM (u82oZ)
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Farwell is fun. I'd include The Gurkhas among his best. though. But Kipling's Army has to be the most fun.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:42 AM (ZbwAu)
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Anyone who didn't fall in love with Maggie Tulliver in The Mill on the Floss isn't human. I'd bet the homos loved her on some level.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 09:42 AM (y7DUB)
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Garp's wife ... made it move.
Garp's wife made it move a bit too far from the body for pleasant memories to linger.
Garp's wife made it move a bit too far from the body for pleasant memories to linger.
Posted by: The World According to Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 09:43 AM (gd9RK)
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Read a couple of Silva's but they seemed to be the same book over and over.
Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at January 05, 2020 09:41 AM (XHdLb)
I guess there are a lot of similarities, him being an Israeli spy and all, and of course the characters carry over. But I love Silva, especially when he plays up the art aspects.
Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at January 05, 2020 09:41 AM (XHdLb)
I guess there are a lot of similarities, him being an Israeli spy and all, and of course the characters carry over. But I love Silva, especially when he plays up the art aspects.
Posted by: grammie winger at January 05, 2020 09:43 AM (lwiT4)
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actricia generia?
Posted by: mjc at January 05, 2020 09:43 AM (Pg+x7)
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OM, I was unclear, the Sambo's in Lincoln City is about a mile North of the bookstore, on the other side of the Dee river, but it is on the same side of the street.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 09:45 AM (1glZx)
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43 I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
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Came back to me a few years ago, when rearranging books. Like most guys, I'd believed that interest in girls started with puberty. But it hit me that, very young, I'd had a crush on Ozma of Oz. Go figure.
There was, much later, Lizzie Bennett. But that helped when I met my wife.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i)
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Came back to me a few years ago, when rearranging books. Like most guys, I'd believed that interest in girls started with puberty. But it hit me that, very young, I'd had a crush on Ozma of Oz. Go figure.
There was, much later, Lizzie Bennett. But that helped when I met my wife.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:46 AM (ZbwAu)
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I wonder if polar bears hear the same maudlin musical soundtrack they use on these world wildlife fund commercials as they symbolically adopt seals, narwhals, ocelots, sloths, fruit bats and the occasional hominid into their digestive tracts?
Posted by: ErikInTexas at January 05, 2020 09:46 AM (2SUCh)
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... it looks like ms. generia.
Posted by: mjc at January 05, 2020 09:46 AM (Pg+x7)
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Reading Update: I'm now in Moria, savoring the prose of LotR, particularly the sparse description. Some of the dialogue (particularly in Rivendell) sticks out as really awkward for the situation, and is clearly designed to have a character tell the reader something.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:18 AM (cfSRQ)
My views on LOTR have shifted over the years. I now find the later chapters a little too liturgical and portentous in language and tone. All the thous and thees that pile up and weigh it down. Also, Frodo gets tiresome. I still recognize the marvelous overall achievement of the trilogy. But I only re-read the Fellowship of the Ring now.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:18 AM (cfSRQ)
My views on LOTR have shifted over the years. I now find the later chapters a little too liturgical and portentous in language and tone. All the thous and thees that pile up and weigh it down. Also, Frodo gets tiresome. I still recognize the marvelous overall achievement of the trilogy. But I only re-read the Fellowship of the Ring now.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:47 AM (H8QX8)
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Does Smurfette count?
Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at January 05, 2020 09:31 AM (EgshT)
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I have this mental image of him with his nose pressed to the glass of an 80s TV set, his thinning hair standing up from the static electricity and he circles the tube, trying to catch a whiff of her hair.
Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at January 05, 2020 09:31 AM (EgshT)
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I have this mental image of him with his nose pressed to the glass of an 80s TV set, his thinning hair standing up from the static electricity and he circles the tube, trying to catch a whiff of her hair.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:47 AM (cfSRQ)
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44 Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 05, 2020 09:08 AM (EgshT)
I am going to try War and Peace again this year. The last time, I chose a translation in which the author determined that the French dialogue portions must not be translated into English, for, um, authenticity or some such.
Well, that was not helpful. Authenticity isn't all it's cracked up to be, author dumbass, and is just elitist posturing on your part.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:25 AM (OX9vb)
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I am reliably assured that all the French portions are complaints that their supply chain sent the wrong type of chives, so the army must starve.
I am going to try War and Peace again this year. The last time, I chose a translation in which the author determined that the French dialogue portions must not be translated into English, for, um, authenticity or some such.
Well, that was not helpful. Authenticity isn't all it's cracked up to be, author dumbass, and is just elitist posturing on your part.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:25 AM (OX9vb)
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I am reliably assured that all the French portions are complaints that their supply chain sent the wrong type of chives, so the army must starve.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:48 AM (ZbwAu)
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I once told the Booklings here that I was shocked to realize that my lifelong favorite author, Hemingway, wrote only crap after about 1936.
With the stunning exception of Old Man and the Sea, all of his good writing was an incandescent span of a dozen years. When I really started doing the chronology in my head it became so clear.
With the stunning exception of Old Man and the Sea, all of his good writing was an incandescent span of a dozen years. When I really started doing the chronology in my head it became so clear.
Posted by: The Bandersnatch Also Rises at January 05, 2020 09:49 AM (gd9RK)
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Farwell is fun. I'd include The Gurkhas among his best. though. But Kipling's Army has to be the most fun.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:42 AM (ZbwAu)
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On my Militaria bookshelves, I have Farwell's "Eminenet Victorian Soldiers", "Armies of the Raj", and his battle study on Ball's Bluff. All very good.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:42 AM (ZbwAu)
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On my Militaria bookshelves, I have Farwell's "Eminenet Victorian Soldiers", "Armies of the Raj", and his battle study on Ball's Bluff. All very good.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 09:49 AM (mWzQJ)
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I just finished the 6th book in Karin Slaughter's Will Trent series. I am totally into him. He is one of the most interesting characters I have ever read. He is not rich, handsome, super hero, magical, high IQ, Mr. Perfect seen in all the romance novels ever written. He is just very human who never gives up on the people in his life, even when they misunderstand him or hurt him.See what I mean? I'm completely hooked.
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 09:50 AM (QzF6i)
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"I guess there are a lot of similarities, him being an Israeli spy and all, and of course the characters carry over. But I love Silva, especially when he plays up the art aspects. "
That does it.
Time to grab "The New Girl" from the nightstand.
And actually start reading it.
That does it.
Time to grab "The New Girl" from the nightstand.
And actually start reading it.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:51 AM (tT0V4)
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Someone may have commented on it already, but that Viking battle axe was fascinating. If authentic, it could use some preservation (we restore very old items; for some reason, people mistake corrosive rust for time-honored patina).
Posted by: DC at January 05, 2020 09:52 AM (onMzM)
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Robert Spencer published a book in 2012 called"Did Mohammed Exist".I find it very interesting.
Posted by: Grannymimi at January 05, 2020 09:52 AM (u5LFV)
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OregonMuse
I gave up on Heinlein at I Will Fear No Evil as well.
But I eventually started the later novels, because I am an immense Heinlein fan, and a completest on my favorite authors.
But the only one of his later books I really enjoyed and was able to finish, was Job, A Comedy of Justice.. Quite well done.
In reading the comprehensive Robert A. Heinlein biographies by William H. Patterson Jr.;
Robert A. Heinlein: In Dialogue with His Century: Volume 1: Learning Curve 1907-1948 and
Robert A. Heinlein: In Dialogue with His Century: 1948-1988 The Man Who Learned Better you learn what a complex man Heinlein is. And what a satyr.
He had a brain tumor that strongly affected him while he was writing I Will Fear No Evil, and other big health problems after that. This is where the expression "Brain-Eaters disease" comes from; when a good SF author becomes a bad author. This term is widely used on the use-group rec.arts.sf.written.
I gave up on Heinlein at I Will Fear No Evil as well.
But I eventually started the later novels, because I am an immense Heinlein fan, and a completest on my favorite authors.
But the only one of his later books I really enjoyed and was able to finish, was Job, A Comedy of Justice.. Quite well done.
In reading the comprehensive Robert A. Heinlein biographies by William H. Patterson Jr.;
Robert A. Heinlein: In Dialogue with His Century: Volume 1: Learning Curve 1907-1948 and
Robert A. Heinlein: In Dialogue with His Century: 1948-1988 The Man Who Learned Better you learn what a complex man Heinlein is. And what a satyr.
He had a brain tumor that strongly affected him while he was writing I Will Fear No Evil, and other big health problems after that. This is where the expression "Brain-Eaters disease" comes from; when a good SF author becomes a bad author. This term is widely used on the use-group rec.arts.sf.written.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 09:52 AM (u82oZ)
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Good Morning Bookies.
One of my all time favorites got wearisome. JA Jance from Seattle.
Her JP Beaumont series was good but spent a lot of time doing the regrets for my sins stuff.
She started a second series about a woman sheriff in AZ who, never met an illegal or drug cartel courier.
A third series about a TV talking head who was disgraced, moved to AZ and started solving murders and morphed into a computer genius. Loved the first, liked the second for awhile. Never got into the third. Too bad as she can write well but is now just cranking out the stories.
One of my all time favorites got wearisome. JA Jance from Seattle.
Her JP Beaumont series was good but spent a lot of time doing the regrets for my sins stuff.
She started a second series about a woman sheriff in AZ who, never met an illegal or drug cartel courier.
A third series about a TV talking head who was disgraced, moved to AZ and started solving murders and morphed into a computer genius. Loved the first, liked the second for awhile. Never got into the third. Too bad as she can write well but is now just cranking out the stories.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at January 05, 2020 09:53 AM (Tt761)
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I am reliably assured that all the French portions are complaints that their supply chain sent the wrong type of chives, so the army must starve.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:48 AM (ZbwAu)
These days I get a kick out of the stereotype that the French are food snobs and very fussy. My kid married a Frenchman and when his relatives come from Paris the first meal they have in a restaurant is always at TGIFridays, which they adore. They are also overly fond of chocolate breakfast cereals.
Yes, there is a splash of nationalism, but don't stand between that clan and TGIF.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:48 AM (ZbwAu)
These days I get a kick out of the stereotype that the French are food snobs and very fussy. My kid married a Frenchman and when his relatives come from Paris the first meal they have in a restaurant is always at TGIFridays, which they adore. They are also overly fond of chocolate breakfast cereals.
Yes, there is a splash of nationalism, but don't stand between that clan and TGIF.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 09:53 AM (U7k5w)
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16 Who dis? Deborah Kerr
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (MLfDH
That was quick!
But you're correct.
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (MLfDH
That was quick!
But you're correct.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (AWstk)
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OM, I agree with your assessment of later Heinlein books. The last one I was happy with was "Time Enough For Love" and then mostly the discursive sections you pointed out. As we've thinned out the book collection (to make room for other books) the later Heinlein stuff was traded in. Even Stranger in a Strange Land shows its age except for his evaluation of Rodin's sculptures.
Other authors I got tired of over the years: Ludlum, Robert Parker and Clancy while they were still alive.
On the other hand, I never got tired of the Matt Helm series by Donald Hamilton or the Martha's Vineyard series by Philip Craig. I thought those just kept getting better.
Other authors I got tired of over the years: Ludlum, Robert Parker and Clancy while they were still alive.
On the other hand, I never got tired of the Matt Helm series by Donald Hamilton or the Martha's Vineyard series by Philip Craig. I thought those just kept getting better.
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (7EjX1)
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My views on LOTR have shifted over the years. I
now find the later chapters a little too liturgical and portentous in
language and tone. All the thous and thees that pile up and weigh it
down. Also, Frodo gets tiresome. I still recognize the marvelous overall
achievement of the trilogy. But I only re-read the Fellowship of the
Ring now.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:47 AM (H8QX
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Tolkien used "thee" and "thou" because those are the familiar forms of address, so he's trying to convey intimacy. It doesn't work for most people.
The later books get more formal, but they also have some of the greatest imagery in fiction. Just the other day I was commenting to my wife that among Peter Jackson's crimes are his omitting entirely the Knights of Dol Amroth and rendering both the Siege of Gondor and the Battle of the Pelennor Fields an incoherent jumble of stupidity.
The flight from the causeway forts is masterful in its pacing and suspense, and I feel thoroughly ripped off an not watching the Nazgul swooping down the the desperate rear guard, lines of torch-bearing Southrons riding arond their flanks to encirle them and then, as they start to panic and flee, the silver trumpets sound from the Citadel.
And the sortie rides forth, cheered on from the battlements with Imrahil's blue and silver banner snapping in the wind.
Jackson is such an asshole.
Maybe Amazon will do the book right as a series, with each chapter being its own episode.
My views on LOTR have shifted over the years. I
now find the later chapters a little too liturgical and portentous in
language and tone. All the thous and thees that pile up and weigh it
down. Also, Frodo gets tiresome. I still recognize the marvelous overall
achievement of the trilogy. But I only re-read the Fellowship of the
Ring now.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:47 AM (H8QX
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Tolkien used "thee" and "thou" because those are the familiar forms of address, so he's trying to convey intimacy. It doesn't work for most people.
The later books get more formal, but they also have some of the greatest imagery in fiction. Just the other day I was commenting to my wife that among Peter Jackson's crimes are his omitting entirely the Knights of Dol Amroth and rendering both the Siege of Gondor and the Battle of the Pelennor Fields an incoherent jumble of stupidity.
The flight from the causeway forts is masterful in its pacing and suspense, and I feel thoroughly ripped off an not watching the Nazgul swooping down the the desperate rear guard, lines of torch-bearing Southrons riding arond their flanks to encirle them and then, as they start to panic and flee, the silver trumpets sound from the Citadel.
And the sortie rides forth, cheered on from the battlements with Imrahil's blue and silver banner snapping in the wind.
Jackson is such an asshole.
Maybe Amazon will do the book right as a series, with each chapter being its own episode.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (cfSRQ)
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16 Who dis? Deborah Kerr
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (MLfDH
Good one. That was difficult.
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (MLfDH
Good one. That was difficult.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 09:55 AM (87gB3)
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Garp's wife made it move a bit too far from the body for pleasant memories to linger.
Posted by: The World According to Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 09:43 AM (gd9RK)
That was a scene I contemplated the ethical implications of possibly longer than anything more culturally significant. I mean she wanted to get rid of that annoying pest and that seemed like a convenient way. Oops.
For whatever reason that was the last thing I read by Irving, other than some earlier works that a publisher cashed in on Garp's popularity by publishing and were quite frankly terrible. My wife and daughters continued to dote on his stuff but I just wasn't interested; Garp served a purpose from which I moved on. A friend of mine went to Brandeis when Irving was a resident artist there; she said he fucked everything that moved, which I assumed didn't include her although that wouldn't be a particularly shocking revelation.
Posted by: The World According to Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 09:43 AM (gd9RK)
That was a scene I contemplated the ethical implications of possibly longer than anything more culturally significant. I mean she wanted to get rid of that annoying pest and that seemed like a convenient way. Oops.
For whatever reason that was the last thing I read by Irving, other than some earlier works that a publisher cashed in on Garp's popularity by publishing and were quite frankly terrible. My wife and daughters continued to dote on his stuff but I just wasn't interested; Garp served a purpose from which I moved on. A friend of mine went to Brandeis when Irving was a resident artist there; she said he fucked everything that moved, which I assumed didn't include her although that wouldn't be a particularly shocking revelation.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 09:56 AM (y7DUB)
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The rec.arts.sf.written FAQ is a great SF resource, and one link to it is: https://tinyurl.com/s5tyxtz
My favorite, of many is:
Terry Carr, saying, "If Don Wollheim had published the Bible [as an Ace
Double], it would be ...."
"War God of Israel/The Thing with Three Souls".
My favorite, of many is:
Terry Carr, saying, "If Don Wollheim had published the Bible [as an Ace
Double], it would be ...."
"War God of Israel/The Thing with Three Souls".
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 09:56 AM (u82oZ)
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The pen is mightier than the sword unless you have dyslexia
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 05, 2020 09:57 AM (/PCzh)
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I was at Amazon and see a 2020 road atlas. Less than 6 bux. I really really want one now!
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
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102 I have forgotten what "escaped oaf" is an anagram of.
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 09:55 AM (87gB3)
Escaped oafs = ace of spades
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 09:55 AM (87gB3)
Escaped oafs = ace of spades
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (NWiLs)
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Not first !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (arJlL)
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One distinction among "series" novels. Some are truly series, like Narnia or the O'Brians, that is, there is an order you should read them in. But many - Nero Wolfe and Perry Mason for instance - it really doesn't matter.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (ZbwAu)
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Jackson is such an asshole.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (cfSRQ)
No argument there. I thought the films were a disgrace. The whole opening characterization of Pippin and Merry as the two stooges and going downhill from there. Sitting through the movies was like one long extended bad meal one keeps hoping will be saved by the next course but only gets worse.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (cfSRQ)
No argument there. I thought the films were a disgrace. The whole opening characterization of Pippin and Merry as the two stooges and going downhill from there. Sitting through the movies was like one long extended bad meal one keeps hoping will be saved by the next course but only gets worse.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (H8QX8)
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105 The pen is mightier than the sword unless you have dyslexia
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 05, 2020 09:57 AM (/PCzh)
Not funny! A good friend jumped in back of a train when he was diagnosed.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 05, 2020 09:57 AM (/PCzh)
Not funny! A good friend jumped in back of a train when he was diagnosed.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:59 AM (JFO2v)
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That "WTF Mr. Feynman" book that many morons seem to love is in the collection.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:39 AM (Dc2NZ)
I bet that was one of Feynman's original title proposals.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:39 AM (Dc2NZ)
I bet that was one of Feynman's original title proposals.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 09:59 AM (1glZx)
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For whatever reason that was the last thing I read by Irving, other than some earlier works that a publisher cashed in on Garp's popularity by publishing and were quite frankly terrible.
Yeah, I remember a lot of old work being published after he hit it big. I liked one that was set in Vienna and all the animals escaped from the zoo, but that's all I remember of it.
I liked Owen Meany at the time, but not enough to go back to it. Hotel New Hampshire a little, but he did get to wear on me.
Yeah, I remember a lot of old work being published after he hit it big. I liked one that was set in Vienna and all the animals escaped from the zoo, but that's all I remember of it.
I liked Owen Meany at the time, but not enough to go back to it. Hotel New Hampshire a little, but he did get to wear on me.
Posted by: A Prayer for Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:01 AM (gd9RK)
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If I recall correctly, Boulder Hobo has written a book on Islam.
Not sure where this info came from, but apparently Mo's "visions" were actually a coverup for his epileptic seizures. He didn't have a disease, see, he was just being visited by an angel.
Not sure where this info came from, but apparently Mo's "visions" were actually a coverup for his epileptic seizures. He didn't have a disease, see, he was just being visited by an angel.
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 10:01 AM (87gB3)
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Who dis? Deborah Kerr
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (MLfDH
Good one. That was difficult.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (H8QX
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As I've gotten into old movies, I've come to appreciate her more and more.
She's beautiful, but she has real stage presence. I can't take my eyes off her in From Here to Eternity. She's just fascinating to watch.
We don't have movie stars any more.
Posted by: kallisto at January 05, 2020 09:10 AM (MLfDH
Good one. That was difficult.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (H8QX
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As I've gotten into old movies, I've come to appreciate her more and more.
She's beautiful, but she has real stage presence. I can't take my eyes off her in From Here to Eternity. She's just fascinating to watch.
We don't have movie stars any more.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:01 AM (cfSRQ)
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They slipped behind the barn and quickly removed eacch other's harness. There, with nothing to rein them in, it would be a night of unbridled passion.
*********
All The Horse Men Knew Her- a limerick
"Let me ride you! I'm willing and able!"
"Neighhhh", she replied. "It's a fable!
Though you've curried your coat
And you're feeling your oats
I'd rather a partner who's stable!"
*********
All The Horse Men Knew Her- a limerick
"Let me ride you! I'm willing and able!"
"Neighhhh", she replied. "It's a fable!
Though you've curried your coat
And you're feeling your oats
I'd rather a partner who's stable!"
Posted by: Muldoon at January 05, 2020 10:01 AM (m45I2)
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One day, I may be able to grab a photo of the library collection owned by the Village Idiot (Actual).
At least seven walls, floor to ceiling in at least three rooms. All hardbound. Many first additions.
He once sent me the entire Hornblower Series.
As he needed the space for other stuff.
At least seven walls, floor to ceiling in at least three rooms. All hardbound. Many first additions.
He once sent me the entire Hornblower Series.
As he needed the space for other stuff.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:01 AM (tT0V4)
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Have a great day, everyone. I'll be back after I complete some chores. However in public, head on a swivel and have a Mattis plan.
Kindltot, thank you for your wonderful pictures and giving me bookstore envy. I may need a bigger house if I went there.
Kindltot, thank you for your wonderful pictures and giving me bookstore envy. I may need a bigger house if I went there.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (87gB3)
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Thanks for the bookstore pics, Kindltot!
The local B&N doesn't have a Viking axehead.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Seconded !
The local B&N doesn't have a Viking axehead.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes
Seconded !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (arJlL)
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Good morning from Kenosha. Overcast skies and temperatures in the 20s - clearly a situation that calls for coffee and book-talk!
The bookstore looks really good. My sister lives in Portland, which is as crazy as you've heard; but it is also home to Powell's, which is a must-visit for any bibliophile.
Books this week: For the first time since my teens, I re-read the novels by Edward L. Beach: "Run Silent, Run Deep", and its sequel "Dust on the Sea". They were as good as I recalled. Given my age, I'll probably never read them again; but it was good to revisit two old friends from my youth.
Otherwise, I'm deep into Ron Chernow's biography of Ulysses Grant. Chernow doesn't break any new ground, and his prose shows the occasional flash of woke-ness, but it's a good, workmanlike biography - and one that gives Grant's presidency much more weight than did, say, McFeeley's biography. If nothing else, Chernow's biography has led me put Grant's "Personal Memoirs" on my list to re-read. It's a masterpiece that I think every American should read at least once in his/her/whatevers life.
The bookstore looks really good. My sister lives in Portland, which is as crazy as you've heard; but it is also home to Powell's, which is a must-visit for any bibliophile.
Books this week: For the first time since my teens, I re-read the novels by Edward L. Beach: "Run Silent, Run Deep", and its sequel "Dust on the Sea". They were as good as I recalled. Given my age, I'll probably never read them again; but it was good to revisit two old friends from my youth.
Otherwise, I'm deep into Ron Chernow's biography of Ulysses Grant. Chernow doesn't break any new ground, and his prose shows the occasional flash of woke-ness, but it's a good, workmanlike biography - and one that gives Grant's presidency much more weight than did, say, McFeeley's biography. If nothing else, Chernow's biography has led me put Grant's "Personal Memoirs" on my list to re-read. It's a masterpiece that I think every American should read at least once in his/her/whatevers life.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
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No argument there. I thought the films were a
disgrace. The whole opening characterization of Pippin and Merry as the
two stooges and going downhill from there. Sitting through the movies
was like one long extended bad meal one keeps hoping will be saved by
the next course but only gets worse.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (H8QX
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Yes, and National Review was there singing their praises.
I soured on it after The Two Towers (elves in Rohan? WTF???), but stuck it out and bought it on DVD because my wife.
Last year we did a family reading group and read the books and my daughters re-watched the movies, ripping on them the whole time.
Made dad proud, they did.
disgrace. The whole opening characterization of Pippin and Merry as the
two stooges and going downhill from there. Sitting through the movies
was like one long extended bad meal one keeps hoping will be saved by
the next course but only gets worse.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (H8QX
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Yes, and National Review was there singing their praises.
I soured on it after The Two Towers (elves in Rohan? WTF???), but stuck it out and bought it on DVD because my wife.
Last year we did a family reading group and read the books and my daughters re-watched the movies, ripping on them the whole time.
Made dad proud, they did.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (cfSRQ)
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She's beautiful, but she has real stage presence. I can't take my eyes off her in From Here to Eternity. She's just fascinating to watch.
We don't have movie stars any more.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:01 AM (cfSRQ)
If you haven't already, check her out in The Hucksters with Clark Gable. An odd, good story about the NY ad business.
We don't have movie stars any more.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:01 AM (cfSRQ)
If you haven't already, check her out in The Hucksters with Clark Gable. An odd, good story about the NY ad business.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (H8QX8)
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That "WTF Mr. Feynman" book that many morons seem to love is in the collection.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:39 AM (Dc2NZ)
I bet that was one of Feynman's original title proposals.
When The Great Terror was being released as a 25 year anniversary edition -- and the USSR had fallen and the archives had been opened -- they asked Robert Conquest if he wanted to add anything.
He wanted a subtitle: "I told you so you fucking morons".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:39 AM (Dc2NZ)
I bet that was one of Feynman's original title proposals.
When The Great Terror was being released as a 25 year anniversary edition -- and the USSR had fallen and the archives had been opened -- they asked Robert Conquest if he wanted to add anything.
He wanted a subtitle: "I told you so you fucking morons".
Posted by: A Prayer for Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:05 AM (gd9RK)
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authors i gave up on: heinlein for all the reasons stated. mercedes lackey, George R R Martin (he co-authored Windhaven, iirc, which was wonderful. i was initially excited about GoT, but after 1 and a half books i realized there was no one in it i wanted to spend any more time with), Clancy (after the awful book where the japanese crash the stock market and 300 pages later good ol' jack ryan realizes: "hey, let's just use the backups from the day before)
Probably others but i can't think of them right now.
Probably others but i can't think of them right now.
Posted by: yara at January 05, 2020 10:05 AM (rde8g)
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I was at Amazon and see a 2020 road atlas. Less than 6 bux. I really really want one now!
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
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After the Apple maps sent us into the middle of nowhere twice - leaving us with no signal - both our vehicles have printed road atlases in them.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
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After the Apple maps sent us into the middle of nowhere twice - leaving us with no signal - both our vehicles have printed road atlases in them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (cfSRQ)
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"Bound By Ice", about the USS Jeanette;
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:33 AM (Dc2NZ)
I have the audiobook of "In the Kingdom of Ice", but I haven't started it yet. Maybe I'll do that today.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 09:33 AM (Dc2NZ)
I have the audiobook of "In the Kingdom of Ice", but I haven't started it yet. Maybe I'll do that today.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (t+qrx)
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Oh! Of course!
*smacks forehead*
Thanks, Insom!
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (87gB3)
You're welcome. Now you can pass the knowledge on to others, in the finest tradition of the Horde.
Oh! Of course!
*smacks forehead*
Thanks, Insom!
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (87gB3)
You're welcome. Now you can pass the knowledge on to others, in the finest tradition of the Horde.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (NWiLs)
129
For the first time since my teens, I re-read the novels by Edward L. Beach: "Run Silent, Run Deep"
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
Worth reading if you've seen the movie?
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
Worth reading if you've seen the movie?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:11 AM (H8QX8)
130
I am going to try War and Peace again this year. The last time, I chose a translation in which the author determined that the French dialogue portions must not be translated into English, for, um, authenticity or some such.
Well, that was not helpful. Authenticity isn't all it's cracked up to be, author dumbass, and is just elitist posturing on your part.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:25 AM (OX9vb)
So it's OK to translate a Russian novel into English, but not French contained in a Russian novel? Yeah, that's stupid.
I could see leaving a few words in French untranslated, just so it is conveyed that the characters are speaking French, since being fluent in French was a status symbol in early 19th century Russia (and Europe). The upper classes spoke French to distinguish themselves from the rabble.
But you don't have to leave entire conversations untranslated, especially since Tolstoy's characters do go on and on...
I was immensely proud of having read War and Peace when I was 18. What I remember was constantly having to flip back to the cast of characters listed at the beginning, since Russian names and titles and nicknames can get terribly confusing.
Well, that was not helpful. Authenticity isn't all it's cracked up to be, author dumbass, and is just elitist posturing on your part.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:25 AM (OX9vb)
So it's OK to translate a Russian novel into English, but not French contained in a Russian novel? Yeah, that's stupid.
I could see leaving a few words in French untranslated, just so it is conveyed that the characters are speaking French, since being fluent in French was a status symbol in early 19th century Russia (and Europe). The upper classes spoke French to distinguish themselves from the rabble.
But you don't have to leave entire conversations untranslated, especially since Tolstoy's characters do go on and on...
I was immensely proud of having read War and Peace when I was 18. What I remember was constantly having to flip back to the cast of characters listed at the beginning, since Russian names and titles and nicknames can get terribly confusing.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (d6Ksn)
131
I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
Ummmm........No.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
Ummmm........No.
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (arJlL)
132
126 I was at Amazon and see a 2020 road atlas. Less than 6 bux. I really really want one now!
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
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After the Apple maps sent us into the middle of nowhere twice - leaving us with no signal - both our vehicles have printed road atlases in them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (cfSRQ)
which of your books can be read as stand alone?
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
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After the Apple maps sent us into the middle of nowhere twice - leaving us with no signal - both our vehicles have printed road atlases in them.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (cfSRQ)
which of your books can be read as stand alone?
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (JFO2v)
133
128: Ex Cineribus Resurgo. That sounds optimistic, are you telling us something positive is happening?
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (U7k5w)
134
Now you can pass the knowledge on to others, in the finest tradition of the Horde.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (NWiLs)
Uh. That would require my remembering what you just told me.
Well, I'll give it a shot.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (NWiLs)
Uh. That would require my remembering what you just told me.
Well, I'll give it a shot.
Posted by: Emmie at January 05, 2020 10:13 AM (87gB3)
135
Joan Collins ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:13 AM (zr5Kq)
136
121 Good morning from Kenosha. Overcast skies and temperatures in the 20s - clearly a situation that calls for coffee and book-talk!
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
*Waves at Brown Line from southwestern Milwaukee County*
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
*Waves at Brown Line from southwestern Milwaukee County*
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:13 AM (d6Ksn)
137
I have the audiobook of "In the Kingdom of Ice", but I haven't started it yet. Maybe I'll do that today.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (t+qrx)
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Too bad there's not snow on the ground. These would be good snowbound reads.
The wreckage of the Jeanette was carried all the way down to the southwestern part of Greenland by the ice floes.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:06 AM (t+qrx)
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Too bad there's not snow on the ground. These would be good snowbound reads.
The wreckage of the Jeanette was carried all the way down to the southwestern part of Greenland by the ice floes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:14 AM (Dc2NZ)
138
I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book. Anyone else have this happen? Posted by: Sharon
I fell in love with my fictional composite girlfriend.
I fell in love with my fictional composite girlfriend.
Posted by: B. Hussein Marshall Davis III at January 05, 2020 10:14 AM (Ndje9)
139
The writer I gave up on is Stephen Hunter. It's not that I think he turned bad but that I may have just become more disinterested in a book that doesn't grab me from the very start. Age impatience has probably something to do with it.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:14 AM (2DOZq)
140
133 128: Ex Cineribus Resurgo. That sounds optimistic, are you telling us something positive is happening?
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (U7k5w)
It's my motto for the New Year. "From the ashes I arise." It marks me changing my mindset and changing myself. It's a process moreso than an event. It will take time but it reminds me of what I'm striving for.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (U7k5w)
It's my motto for the New Year. "From the ashes I arise." It marks me changing my mindset and changing myself. It's a process moreso than an event. It will take time but it reminds me of what I'm striving for.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:15 AM (NWiLs)
141
The wreckage of the Jeanette was carried all the way down to the southwestern part of Greenland by the ice floes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:14 AM (Dc2NZ)
Well now I don't have to read it.
Most of my audiobooks were selected for bedtime story value, and we haven't had a suitably wretched winter night for it so far this season.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:14 AM (Dc2NZ)
Well now I don't have to read it.
Most of my audiobooks were selected for bedtime story value, and we haven't had a suitably wretched winter night for it so far this season.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:15 AM (t+qrx)
142
I thought the Viking Axe-head should have a sign that said, "in case of Berserk, break glass"
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:15 AM (1glZx)
143
With regard to giving up on authors, I've pretty much given up on John Keegan. Of course, he's passed away, but his later books read like cut-and-paste jobs. For example, his book on the American Civil War, published in 2009, which I've just finished, is repetitive yet scattered, and badly needed the attention of a good, stern editor. Keegan makes the occasional interesting comment, such as the effect that Confederate naval raiders had on the US merchant marine (in brief, they pretty much killed it off); but otherwise I cannot recommend it.
Of course, this doesn't reflect on Keegan's earlier books, such as "The Face of Battle" or "The Mask of Command" or "Six Armies in Normandy", which are brilliant and enlightening. It appears that in his later years, Keegan was simply written out.
Of course, this doesn't reflect on Keegan's earlier books, such as "The Face of Battle" or "The Mask of Command" or "Six Armies in Normandy", which are brilliant and enlightening. It appears that in his later years, Keegan was simply written out.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (S6ArX)
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131 I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
145
It's my motto for the New Year. "From the ashes I arise." It marks me changing my mindset and changing myself. It's a process moreso than an event. It will take time but it reminds me of what I'm striving for.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:15 AM (NWiLs)
Bravo!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:15 AM (NWiLs)
Bravo!
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (U7k5w)
146
I'm going to start today on Steven Pressfield's 36 Righteous Men. I sure hope it grabs me at the start because if it doesn't I'll know for sure it's just me and not the authors.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:17 AM (2DOZq)
147
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
LOL
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
LOL
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:17 AM (zr5Kq)
148
Good on you, Insom!
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 10:17 AM (MTxDQ)
149
I kind of fell for ______ when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize ______ was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
Pretty sure this works for real life too (citation: me).
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
Pretty sure this works for real life too (citation: me).
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (t+qrx)
150
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
That book was populated almost entirely by assholes. Catherine being the queen of that ilk.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
That book was populated almost entirely by assholes. Catherine being the queen of that ilk.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (U7k5w)
151
I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
You just summed up real life about women. You guys need asshole radar .
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
You just summed up real life about women. You guys need asshole radar .
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (2DOZq)
152
I was at Amazon and see a 2020 road atlas. Less than 6 bux. I really really want one now!
Oh, Atlases are books! I have a bunch of DeLorme's Atlas and Gazetteers and I want all of them.
They're oversized (maybe 16x24", they're out in the truck) atlases with a grid on the back and one page for each grid. They're topographical, too, which is awsome, and they have info on boat launches, campgrounds, local attractions and such.
They're basically one per state except for the tiny New England states, so NH and VT share a volume and RI is tucked inconspicuously into Connecticut's. I have the whole Northeast, I'd like to expand.
Oh, Atlases are books! I have a bunch of DeLorme's Atlas and Gazetteers and I want all of them.
They're oversized (maybe 16x24", they're out in the truck) atlases with a grid on the back and one page for each grid. They're topographical, too, which is awsome, and they have info on boat launches, campgrounds, local attractions and such.
They're basically one per state except for the tiny New England states, so NH and VT share a volume and RI is tucked inconspicuously into Connecticut's. I have the whole Northeast, I'd like to expand.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:19 AM (gd9RK)
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149 I kind of fell for ______ when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize ______ was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
Pretty sure this works for real life too (citation: me).
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (t+qrx)
This goes back to my earlier remark that most people fall in love with partially fictional characters. We create them ourselves.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
Pretty sure this works for real life too (citation: me).
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (t+qrx)
This goes back to my earlier remark that most people fall in love with partially fictional characters. We create them ourselves.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:19 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: eleven at January 05, 2020 10:20 AM (M0u+N)
155
"War God of Israel/The Thing with Three Souls".
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 09:56 AM (u82oZ)
I like it!
I'm off to Mass, bbl
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 05, 2020 09:56 AM (u82oZ)
I like it!
I'm off to Mass, bbl
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 10:20 AM (OX9vb)
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150 I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
You fell for a comic strip cat?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
You fell for a comic strip cat?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:20 AM (NWiLs)
157
Otherwise, I'm deep into Ron Chernow's biography of
Ulysses Grant. Chernow doesn't break any new ground, and his prose shows
the occasional flash of woke-ness, but it's a good, workmanlike
biography - and one that gives Grant's presidency much more weight than
did, say, McFeeley's biography. If nothing else, Chernow's biography has
led me put Grant's "Personal Memoirs" on my list to re-read. It's a
masterpiece that I think every American should read at least once in
his/her/whatevers life.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
Grant's Personal Memoirs are a delight to read. It is said that Mark Twain had a very large hand in editing them for readability, but I suspect a man who spent his entire life writing reports got to where he did it very well.
I wish Grant had done a memoir of his presidency. I suspect it would have been as well written.
I will look for Chernow's biography.
Ulysses Grant. Chernow doesn't break any new ground, and his prose shows
the occasional flash of woke-ness, but it's a good, workmanlike
biography - and one that gives Grant's presidency much more weight than
did, say, McFeeley's biography. If nothing else, Chernow's biography has
led me put Grant's "Personal Memoirs" on my list to re-read. It's a
masterpiece that I think every American should read at least once in
his/her/whatevers life.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
Grant's Personal Memoirs are a delight to read. It is said that Mark Twain had a very large hand in editing them for readability, but I suspect a man who spent his entire life writing reports got to where he did it very well.
I wish Grant had done a memoir of his presidency. I suspect it would have been as well written.
I will look for Chernow's biography.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:21 AM (1glZx)
158
You just summed up real life about women. You guys need asshole radar .
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (2DOZq)
So twerking would really be scanning for something incoming.
You just summed up real life about women. You guys need asshole radar .
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (2DOZq)
So twerking would really be scanning for something incoming.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (Uu+Jp)
159
Oh, Atlases are books! I have a bunch of DeLorme's Atlas and Gazetteers and I want all of them.
They're oversized (maybe 16x24", they're out in the truck) atlases with a grid on the back and one page for each grid. They're topographical, too, which is awsome, and they have info on boat launches, campgrounds, local attractions and such.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:19 AM (gd9RK)
They're wonderful, but huge, and they don't roll well. I have photocopies of the twelve or so pages I'm likely to be in. If I ever wake up behind the wheel in Ishpeming, I don't think a map will save me anyway.
They're oversized (maybe 16x24", they're out in the truck) atlases with a grid on the back and one page for each grid. They're topographical, too, which is awsome, and they have info on boat launches, campgrounds, local attractions and such.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:19 AM (gd9RK)
They're wonderful, but huge, and they don't roll well. I have photocopies of the twelve or so pages I'm likely to be in. If I ever wake up behind the wheel in Ishpeming, I don't think a map will save me anyway.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (t+qrx)
160
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (U7k5w)
Thank you. I have no illusions that it will be easy or a straight line from point A to point B...
Thank you. I have no illusions that it will be easy or a straight line from point A to point B...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (NWiLs)
161
129 For the first time since my teens, I re-read the novels by Edward L. Beach: "Run Silent, Run Deep"
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
Worth reading if you've seen the movie?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:11 AM (H8QX
I like the part where Mr. Spock accidentally hits the sonar button.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:03 AM (S6ArX)
Worth reading if you've seen the movie?
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:11 AM (H8QX
I like the part where Mr. Spock accidentally hits the sonar button.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:23 AM (V2Yro)
162
This goes back to my earlier remark that most people fall in love with partially fictional characters. We create them ourselves.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:19 AM (U7k5w)
And get frustrated when they don't act like they're supposed to.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:19 AM (U7k5w)
And get frustrated when they don't act like they're supposed to.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:23 AM (t+qrx)
163
You just summed up real life about women. You guys need asshole radar .
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (2DOZq)
They do. It just goes to automatic lock on and bang mode.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:18 AM (2DOZq)
They do. It just goes to automatic lock on and bang mode.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:23 AM (NWiLs)
164
If I ever wake up behind the wheel in Ishpeming, I don't think a map will save me anyway.
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Here be dragons!
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Here be dragons!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:23 AM (Dc2NZ)
165
110 Jackson is such an asshole.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (cfSRQ)
No argument there. I thought the films were a disgrace. The whole opening characterization of Pippin and Merry as the two stooges and going downhill from there. Sitting through the movies was like one long extended bad meal one keeps hoping will be saved by the next course but only gets worse.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (H8QX
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For me the unforgivable sin was leaving out the scene on Mt Doom when Frodo makes Gollum swear on the Precious that he will not try to take it again, or it will destroy him. This means the denouement just happened, according to the film.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 09:54 AM (cfSRQ)
No argument there. I thought the films were a disgrace. The whole opening characterization of Pippin and Merry as the two stooges and going downhill from there. Sitting through the movies was like one long extended bad meal one keeps hoping will be saved by the next course but only gets worse.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (H8QX
_______
For me the unforgivable sin was leaving out the scene on Mt Doom when Frodo makes Gollum swear on the Precious that he will not try to take it again, or it will destroy him. This means the denouement just happened, according to the film.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:24 AM (ZbwAu)
166
Grant's Personal Memoirs are a delight to read. It is said that Mark Twain had a very large hand in editing them for readability, but I suspect a man who spent his entire life writing reports got to where he did it very well.
I wish Grant had done a memoir of his presidency. I suspect it would have been as well written.
I will look for Chernow's biography.....
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:21 AM (1glZx)
Oh, thanks for that. Will add to reading list (Maybe will get to it...after all the other stuff )
I wish Grant had done a memoir of his presidency. I suspect it would have been as well written.
I will look for Chernow's biography.....
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:21 AM (1glZx)
Oh, thanks for that. Will add to reading list (Maybe will get to it...after all the other stuff
)Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:24 AM (zr5Kq)
167
I agree with hogmartin on giving up Neal Stephenson, though I did last longer than him. With Snow Crash, Diamond Age, and then Cryptonomicon I really thought of Stephenson as a modern day Charles Dickens.
I stopped reading his last book, The Fall, 1/3rd of the way in and literally threw it away. It's set after the National Divorce, and of course the Red States have revived crucifixion (I'm not kidding).
So very, very sad.
I stopped reading his last book, The Fall, 1/3rd of the way in and literally threw it away. It's set after the National Divorce, and of course the Red States have revived crucifixion (I'm not kidding).
So very, very sad.
Posted by: motionview at January 05, 2020 10:24 AM (pYQR/)
168
I took a tour of Gran't house in Galena, IL. Worth a visit.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (zr5Kq)
169
A thread on how the LotR movies disappoint would be yuge and luxxurious.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (Dc2NZ)
170
just finished 31 Bond Street for my book club. It's a thriller/whodunit novel based on an actual murder trial in 19th century NYC. It's a competent work slanted for history fans and NYC natives, since it has a lot of data about NYC in the 19th century.
upon learning that Orchard Street, near where I grew up, was so named because of its grove of apple trees, or seeing a reference to Bigelow's, a chemist/drugstore on 6th Avenue...which I had just visited the day before.
Not sure how people who don't care/dislike NYC would find it, though.
upon learning that Orchard Street, near where I grew up, was so named because of its grove of apple trees, or seeing a reference to Bigelow's, a chemist/drugstore on 6th Avenue...which I had just visited the day before.
Not sure how people who don't care/dislike NYC would find it, though.
Posted by: vivi at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (11H2y)
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148 Good on you, Insom!
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 10:17 AM (MTxDQ)
Thank you. I am determined to make this a year of transformation.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 10:17 AM (MTxDQ)
Thank you. I am determined to make this a year of transformation.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (NWiLs)
172
I wish Grant had done a memoir of his presidency. I suspect it would have been as well written.
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Interest at the time was in the Late Unpleasantness, so there probably wasn't a market. In any case, Grant was in a race against Death to provide for his family. He dictated until he could no longer speak (he had cancer of the jaw and throat), then wrote the rest out longhand. He finished three days before he died.
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Interest at the time was in the Late Unpleasantness, so there probably wasn't a market. In any case, Grant was in a race against Death to provide for his family. He dictated until he could no longer speak (he had cancer of the jaw and throat), then wrote the rest out longhand. He finished three days before he died.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (mWzQJ)
173
Thank you. I have no illusions that it will be easy or a straight line from point A to point B...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (NWiLs)
Glad to hear that because temporary setbacks are almost a given and that shouldn't discourage you from your righteous journey. You can't be defeated.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (NWiLs)
Glad to hear that because temporary setbacks are almost a given and that shouldn't discourage you from your righteous journey. You can't be defeated.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2DOZq)
174
President Grant's Home , that is.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (zr5Kq)
175
Women need an a*hole radar, what do men need ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
176
I was at Amazon and see a 2020 road atlas. Less than 6 bux. I really really want one now!
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
The DeLorme Atlas and Gazetteer is in my experience the best map available. My only complaint is that it also will show private/farm access roads that have no trespassing signs on them. A couple of times I have had to backtrack because of that.
Helluva thing to bitch that a map is too detailed.
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 09:58 AM (JFO2v)
The DeLorme Atlas and Gazetteer is in my experience the best map available. My only complaint is that it also will show private/farm access roads that have no trespassing signs on them. A couple of times I have had to backtrack because of that.
Helluva thing to bitch that a map is too detailed.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:28 AM (1glZx)
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Thank you. I have no illusions that it will be easy or a straight line from point A to point B...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (NWiLs)
Very wise. Few people are granted either easy or straight lines. It's interesting that you chose the phoenix, IMO.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (NWiLs)
Very wise. Few people are granted either easy or straight lines. It's interesting that you chose the phoenix, IMO.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:28 AM (U7k5w)
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143 With regard to giving up on authors, I've pretty much given up on John Keegan. Of course, he's passed away, but his later books read like cut-and-paste jobs. For example, his book on the American Civil War, published in 2009, which I've just finished, is repetitive yet scattered, and badly needed the attention of a good, stern editor. Keegan makes the occasional interesting comment, such as the effect that Confederate naval raiders had on the US merchant marine (in brief, they pretty much killed it off); but otherwise I cannot recommend it.
Of course, this doesn't reflect on Keegan's earlier books, such as "The Face of Battle" or "The Mask of Command" or "Six Armies in Normandy", which are brilliant and enlightening. It appears that in his later years, Keegan was simply written out.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (S6ArX)
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Yes. And I have to point out that his comment about the CSN raiders is pretty much standard, and has long been so.
I saw him on a documentary about pre-WWI navies, in which he made an interesting mistake. He said that the importance of turbines was that destroyers could be built with lower silhouettes.
What is interesting is that he clearly had done some homework; that is just what many people said at the time. It's what was expected to happen. But not what did happen; actually, destroyers got bigger. The importance of operating in worse sea states far outstripped the benefit of small size.
I hate to say it, but VDH is similarly weak when he gets on naval subjects. His best book remains The Other Greeks.
Of course, this doesn't reflect on Keegan's earlier books, such as "The Face of Battle" or "The Mask of Command" or "Six Armies in Normandy", which are brilliant and enlightening. It appears that in his later years, Keegan was simply written out.
Posted by: Brown Line at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (S6ArX)
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Yes. And I have to point out that his comment about the CSN raiders is pretty much standard, and has long been so.
I saw him on a documentary about pre-WWI navies, in which he made an interesting mistake. He said that the importance of turbines was that destroyers could be built with lower silhouettes.
What is interesting is that he clearly had done some homework; that is just what many people said at the time. It's what was expected to happen. But not what did happen; actually, destroyers got bigger. The importance of operating in worse sea states far outstripped the benefit of small size.
I hate to say it, but VDH is similarly weak when he gets on naval subjects. His best book remains The Other Greeks.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:28 AM (ZbwAu)
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Thank you. I have no illusions that it will be easy or a straight line from point A to point B...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (NWiLs)
Glad to hear that because temporary setbacks are almost a given and that shouldn't discourage you from your righteous journey. You can't be defeated.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2DOZq)
You can't stop him. You can only hope to contain him.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:22 AM (NWiLs)
Glad to hear that because temporary setbacks are almost a given and that shouldn't discourage you from your righteous journey. You can't be defeated.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2DOZq)
You can't stop him. You can only hope to contain him.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:29 AM (t+qrx)
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As far as giving up on a writer, I've been worn out by Arthur C Clarke's relentless hopelessness.
Posted by: eleven at January 05, 2020 10:29 AM (M0u+N)
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I agree with hogmartin on giving up Neal Stephenson,
though I did last longer than him. With Snow Crash, Diamond Age, and
then Cryptonomicon I really thought of Stephenson as a modern day
Charles Dickens.
I stopped reading his last book, The Fall, 1/3rd of the way in and
literally threw it away. It's set after the National Divorce, and of
course the Red States have revived crucifixion (I'm not kidding).
So very, very sad.
Posted by: motionview at January 05, 2020 10:24 AM (pYQR/)
I loved Cryptonomicon and also The Baroque Cycle, but haven't read anything recent by him.
OT, but can anyone here tell me how many separate strikes have been made on Iran actors in Iraq (or anywhere else) since O Sole Mio?
though I did last longer than him. With Snow Crash, Diamond Age, and
then Cryptonomicon I really thought of Stephenson as a modern day
Charles Dickens.
I stopped reading his last book, The Fall, 1/3rd of the way in and
literally threw it away. It's set after the National Divorce, and of
course the Red States have revived crucifixion (I'm not kidding).
So very, very sad.
Posted by: motionview at January 05, 2020 10:24 AM (pYQR/)
I loved Cryptonomicon and also The Baroque Cycle, but haven't read anything recent by him.
OT, but can anyone here tell me how many separate strikes have been made on Iran actors in Iraq (or anywhere else) since O Sole Mio?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 05, 2020 10:29 AM (rCwaK)
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144 131 I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
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I just read that to my wife, and she said "YES! Big thumbs up. But Cathy's not much of a treat either."
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 10:16 AM (d6Ksn)
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I just read that to my wife, and she said "YES! Big thumbs up. But Cathy's not much of a treat either."
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:30 AM (ZbwAu)
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Women need an a*hole radar, what do men need ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Consequences for being assholes. Not rewards.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Consequences for being assholes. Not rewards.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:30 AM (2DOZq)
184
I've been reading "King's Mountain and Cowpens" by Robert W. Brown, jr., about the Revolutionary War battles. It's a decent book but too basic for me. Brown explains the difference bewteen rifles and muskets and how they work in battle, military strategy of the time, etc. Nothing wrong with that, I just don't need it. The book is a good introduction to the period and events and would be appropriate for youngsters and adults. The content is basic but complete and he writes for adults.
I preferred the novel mentioned last week, "Isaac: Trek to King's Mountain". The Brown book does show the historical accuracy of the Fears' novel.
I preferred the novel mentioned last week, "Isaac: Trek to King's Mountain". The Brown book does show the historical accuracy of the Fears' novel.
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 10:30 AM (7EjX1)
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which of your books can be read as stand alone?
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (JFO2v)
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For a moment, I thought you were talking about the road atlases.
Battle Officer Wolf
Scorpion's Pass
Three Weeks with the Coasties
A Man of Destiny is really a single, really long book, not a series per se.
which of your books can be read as stand alone?
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 05, 2020 10:12 AM (JFO2v)
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For a moment, I thought you were talking about the road atlases.
Battle Officer Wolf
Scorpion's Pass
Three Weeks with the Coasties
A Man of Destiny is really a single, really long book, not a series per se.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:30 AM (cfSRQ)
186
I tasted some Iranian poop, and I must say, it is of very high quality!
Posted by: Kurt at January 05, 2020 10:31 AM (U7ujO)
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I'm to the part of A People's Tragedy where Figes is talking about what a malignant fuck Lenin was on consulting with Pavlov on how to mold people to improve the species through sciency ways, not unlike what the educrat industry does with Bill Ayers, revolutionary son of a utility executive. He's also talking about how so many avant garde artists flocked to these totalitarians in the hope that it would be out with the old and in with their stuff. Ignoring that lots of charlatans and mentally ill fuckheads claim to be AG artists because it's so ill defined, brilliant artists can be dumb as rocks when it comes to practical matters like understanding that they might not fare so well in a controlled society. And there's a reason "starving artist" is a valid term for which a new world order won't include changing that as a high priority. Anyway it's an interesting part of the book which is more engaging than the tedious, albeit necessary, descriptions of the number of unproductive bureaucrats for every real worker. Speaking of which, the peasants 100% understand they're fucked.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 10:32 AM (y7DUB)
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Glad to hear that because temporary setbacks are almost a given and that shouldn't discourage you from your righteous journey. You can't be defeated.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2DOZq)
Which is a part of this whole process. My all-or-nothing mindset has been a major obstacle. Basically, that if it isn't exactly completely perfect the first time every time then it doesn't count for anything. Goes way back to what I was taught as a kid. It's a miserable and stifling way to live.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (2DOZq)
Which is a part of this whole process. My all-or-nothing mindset has been a major obstacle. Basically, that if it isn't exactly completely perfect the first time every time then it doesn't count for anything. Goes way back to what I was taught as a kid. It's a miserable and stifling way to live.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:32 AM (NWiLs)
189
You can't stop him. You can only hope to contain him.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:29 AM (t+qrx)
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I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with terrible resolve.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:29 AM (t+qrx)
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I fear we have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with terrible resolve.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:32 AM (cfSRQ)
190
Women need an a*hole radar, what do men need ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Needy manipulator early warning systems.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Needy manipulator early warning systems.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:32 AM (t+qrx)
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booken morgen horden
KTY goes back to college today via bus to the other end of the state
goes across the turnpike - hope they have the highway cleared of a really bad tractor trailer bus car accident this morning which has 86 miles closed off
KTY goes back to college today via bus to the other end of the state
goes across the turnpike - hope they have the highway cleared of a really bad tractor trailer bus car accident this morning which has 86 miles closed off
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 05, 2020 10:33 AM (G546f)
192
Consequences for being assholes. Not rewards.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:30 AM (2DOZq)
STDs, broken dreams, life on a run.... Speaking of Chlamydia, Kurt is here.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:30 AM (2DOZq)
STDs, broken dreams, life on a run.... Speaking of Chlamydia, Kurt is here.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:33 AM (zr5Kq)
193
Go away, Kurt. This is a book thread and you're illiterate.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 10:33 AM (y7DUB)
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Interest at the time was in the Late Unpleasantness, so there probably wasn't a market. In any case, Grant was in a race against Death to provide for his family. He dictated until he could no longer speak (he had cancer of the jaw and throat), then wrote the rest out longhand. He finished three days before he died.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (mWzQJ)
Those who were close to him all said he exerted an incredible force of will to stay alive until he'd finished his work. He told someone, maybe Twain, that at the end every single breath he took felt like he was being strangled.
The most remarkable thing that made his memoirs such a great work was that the style of the time was to be very florid and wordy, as you know if you've read much Victorian era writing. Grant ignored all of that and wrote almost like Hemingway, 30 years before Hemingway was born. It was a great astonishment to the readers of his era, and it makes Grant very readable to modern eyes, unlike most Victorian writers. I think that shows that even at the end, he did what he thought was right and never let anyone else tell him what he should do. (sometimes that got him in trouble, of course)
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (mWzQJ)
Those who were close to him all said he exerted an incredible force of will to stay alive until he'd finished his work. He told someone, maybe Twain, that at the end every single breath he took felt like he was being strangled.
The most remarkable thing that made his memoirs such a great work was that the style of the time was to be very florid and wordy, as you know if you've read much Victorian era writing. Grant ignored all of that and wrote almost like Hemingway, 30 years before Hemingway was born. It was a great astonishment to the readers of his era, and it makes Grant very readable to modern eyes, unlike most Victorian writers. I think that shows that even at the end, he did what he thought was right and never let anyone else tell him what he should do. (sometimes that got him in trouble, of course)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:33 AM (V2Yro)
195
I kind of fell for Heathcliff when I was 15 or so. Because I was too dumb to realize Heathcliff was an asshole.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.
Ya mean Red Skelton's "Gertrude and Heathcliiff "seagull characters ?
Posted by: Donna&&&&V.
Ya mean Red Skelton's "Gertrude and Heathcliiff "seagull characters ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (arJlL)
196
are we still a go for 50 Shades of Cookies?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (G546f)
197
There is a great resource for all of you Morons that might be or considering homeschooling your kids... It is the living books libraries in Michigan, Tennesee and in West Palm Beach Fl. It is rum by a lady named Michelle Miller and her folllowers and she is trying to preserve and promoted real lit and quality books for chidren and preserving some of the great children's lit of the past that has been lost by the take over of the dreck that is currently being housed in school libraries. Please check her and the Libraries out! https://www.livingbookslady.com/ and https://www.livingbookslibrary.com/
Posted by: catman at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (4HMlb)
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Very wise. Few people are granted either easy or straight lines. It's interesting that you chose the phoenix, IMO.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:28 AM (U7k5w)
Burning, from without and within, but suffocating under the ashes instead of emerging. Hence my choice of imagery.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:28 AM (U7k5w)
Burning, from without and within, but suffocating under the ashes instead of emerging. Hence my choice of imagery.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)
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booken morgen horden
KTY goes back to college today via bus to the other end of the state
goes across the turnpike - hope they have the highway cleared of a really bad tractor trailer bus car accident this morning which has 86 miles closed off
Posted by: vmom 2020
Did you read my Intercourse comment ?
KTY goes back to college today via bus to the other end of the state
goes across the turnpike - hope they have the highway cleared of a really bad tractor trailer bus car accident this morning which has 86 miles closed off
Posted by: vmom 2020
Did you read my Intercourse comment ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:35 AM (arJlL)
200
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A thread on how the LotR movies disappoint would be yuge and luxxurious.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (Dc2NZ)
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I humbly suggest this as a starting point:https://tinyurl.com/wx9ey6g
(It's an essay of mine on the topic at bleedingfool.com)
A thread on how the LotR movies disappoint would be yuge and luxxurious.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (Dc2NZ)
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I humbly suggest this as a starting point:https://tinyurl.com/wx9ey6g
(It's an essay of mine on the topic at bleedingfool.com)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:35 AM (cfSRQ)
201
My favorite autobiography is My Grandfather's Son by Clarence Thomas. It encapsulates the saying 'Only in America' .
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:36 AM (2DOZq)
202
That is the kind of bookstore you would expect to find on Diagon Alley. I bet if you asked the proprietor about a book or author, he/she would know without checking if they had anything in stock and where it was located.
Posted by: Jaqen H'ghar at January 05, 2020 10:37 AM (5fSr7)
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126 ... "After the Apple maps sent us into the middle of nowhere twice - leaving us with no signal - both our vehicles have printed road atlases in them."
We have a GPS unit but the uppity thing insists on sending us certain ways when we don't want to use those roads. Even 100 miles later the damn thing was telling us to go back and take its recommended route. I don't like people who pout and won't put up with machines that pout. We always have physical maps in the car and that has served us well over the years. Both the maps that come with AAA membership and the Rand-McNally Atlas. Besides which, we both like maps.
We have a GPS unit but the uppity thing insists on sending us certain ways when we don't want to use those roads. Even 100 miles later the damn thing was telling us to go back and take its recommended route. I don't like people who pout and won't put up with machines that pout. We always have physical maps in the car and that has served us well over the years. Both the maps that come with AAA membership and the Rand-McNally Atlas. Besides which, we both like maps.
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 10:37 AM (7EjX1)
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196 are we still a go for 50 Shades of Cookies?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (G546f)
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https://tinyurl.com/tmuurfl
May not be suitable for church bakeoffs.
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (G546f)
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https://tinyurl.com/tmuurfl
May not be suitable for church bakeoffs.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:37 AM (Dc2NZ)
205
Needy manipulator early warning systems.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:32 AM (t+qrx)
I think the Russian are woking on that, but Chinese stole the blueprint and are trying to reverse engineer them.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:32 AM (t+qrx)
I think the Russian are woking on that, but Chinese stole the blueprint and are trying to reverse engineer them.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:37 AM (zr5Kq)
206
Morning Readers!
Posted by: Weasel at January 05, 2020 10:38 AM (MVjcR)
207
*blueprintS !
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:38 AM (zr5Kq)
208
He finished three days before he died.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (mWzQJ)
I recall that Mark Twain was instrumental in getting it published...
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (mWzQJ)
I recall that Mark Twain was instrumental in getting it published...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (wYseH)
209
186 Looks like Iraq is going to kick us out
Posted by: Kurt at January 05, 2020 10:31 AM (U7ujO)
Excellent.
Posted by: Kurt at January 05, 2020 10:31 AM (U7ujO)
Excellent.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (H8QX8)
210
Late ad sooo much to read. Hope this ask doesn't get lost. Anyone remember the book by Winston Churchill that is supposed to be "edited" to remove the "bad" things he says about the followers of Muhammad? I want to find on copy of the unexpurgated version.
Many ThanX! Now to see if I can catch up!
McGyver, out
Many ThanX! Now to see if I can catch up!
McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (gMngZ)
211
Morning Readers!
Posted by: Weasel at January 05, 2020 10:38 AM (MVjcR)
This works both as a cheerful greeting and a sign over an endcap at Walgreens.
Posted by: Weasel at January 05, 2020 10:38 AM (MVjcR)
This works both as a cheerful greeting and a sign over an endcap at Walgreens.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (t+qrx)
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I once told the Booklings here that I was shocked to realize that my lifelong favorite author, Hemingway, wrote only crap after about 1936.
With the stunning exception of Old Man and the Sea, all of his good writing was an incandescent span of a dozen years. When I really started doing the chronology in my head it became so clear.
Posted by: The Bandersnatch
I enjoyed the snows of mount kilimanjaro ... checks internet...1936, how 'bout that.
With the stunning exception of Old Man and the Sea, all of his good writing was an incandescent span of a dozen years. When I really started doing the chronology in my head it became so clear.
Posted by: The Bandersnatch
I enjoyed the snows of mount kilimanjaro ... checks internet...1936, how 'bout that.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 05, 2020 10:40 AM (VcFUs)
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I enjoyed the snows of mount kilimanjaro ... checks internet...1936, how 'bout that.
Written before global warming.
Written before global warming.
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (arJlL)
214
Bander,
Didn't he write something about army ants and being wheelchair bound at the edge of a piranha filled river as well?
Didn't he write something about army ants and being wheelchair bound at the edge of a piranha filled river as well?
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (VcFUs)
215
Jackson's biggest flaw was to leave out the most important character in the entire story - Tom Bombadil.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
216
Burning, from without and within, but suffocating under the ashes instead of emerging. Hence my choice of imagery.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)
Great imagery. Early in my career, when there were plenty of WWII and Great Depression alumni around, I was impressed by how often the phoenix showed up as a symbol for their rise from disappointments and losses. I heard many stories of new careers, new relationships and reconciliation with change.
All the best with the work ahead.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:34 AM (NWiLs)
Great imagery. Early in my career, when there were plenty of WWII and Great Depression alumni around, I was impressed by how often the phoenix showed up as a symbol for their rise from disappointments and losses. I heard many stories of new careers, new relationships and reconciliation with change.
All the best with the work ahead.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:42 AM (U7k5w)
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He finished three days before he died.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (mWzQJ)
I recall that Mark Twain was instrumental in getting it published...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (wYseH)
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Yes, he was. I believe that he was also the one who suggested to Grant that a memoir by him would sell well.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:26 AM (mWzQJ)
I recall that Mark Twain was instrumental in getting it published...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (wYseH)
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Yes, he was. I believe that he was also the one who suggested to Grant that a memoir by him would sell well.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (mWzQJ)
218
Funny that Ernest Hemingway is listed foremost as a journalist in descriptions .
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (2DOZq)
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215 Jackson's biggest flaw was to leave out the most important character in the entire story - Tom Bombadil.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
From a filmmaker's perspective I actually understood this. Very difficult to introduce or integrate a character of that oddity and obscure significance without an ultimate payoff. He would need a movie of his own.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
From a filmmaker's perspective I actually understood this. Very difficult to introduce or integrate a character of that oddity and obscure significance without an ultimate payoff. He would need a movie of his own.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (H8QX8)
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Greetings to the horde; I'm back after a long vacation hiatus!
Books I've read lately include Vox Day's Corporate Cancer: How to Work Miracles and Save Millions by Curing Your Company. It's a good primer on the signs and symptoms of social justice convergence in organizations and the steps you can take to help your organization fight back and recover its original mission and purpose.
I re-read Jim Butcher's Peace Talks, the most recent in his series of the Chicago Private Investigator turned Wizard - the Dresden Files.
I'm also reading a charming 1924 work, The Makers of Science; Mathematics, Physics, Astronomy by Ivor Hart. It's a biographical history of science chock full of fascinating and little known details.
Books I've read lately include Vox Day's Corporate Cancer: How to Work Miracles and Save Millions by Curing Your Company. It's a good primer on the signs and symptoms of social justice convergence in organizations and the steps you can take to help your organization fight back and recover its original mission and purpose.
I re-read Jim Butcher's Peace Talks, the most recent in his series of the Chicago Private Investigator turned Wizard - the Dresden Files.
I'm also reading a charming 1924 work, The Makers of Science; Mathematics, Physics, Astronomy by Ivor Hart. It's a biographical history of science chock full of fascinating and little known details.
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (FXjhj)
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The most remarkable thing that made his memoirs such
a great work was that the style of the time was to be very florid and
wordy, as you know if you've read much Victorian era writing. Grant
ignored all of that and wrote almost like Hemingway, 30 years before
Hemingway was born. It was a great astonishment to the readers of his
era, and it makes Grant very readable to modern eyes, unlike most
Victorian writers. I think that shows that even at the end, he did what
he thought was right and never let anyone else tell him what he should
do. (sometimes that got him in trouble, of course)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:33 AM (V2Yro)
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Yes, and if you want to get a sense of how other generals wrote, Battles and Leaders is your go-to source. Lots of florid language, particularly from PGT Beauregard who is an insufferable prick.
For those who don't know, Century Magazine was a major publication in post-war America and 20 years after the war, began publishing short articles by veterans about various aspects.
It almost immediately degenerated into a name-calling contest which had a huge impact on how the war was perceived.
The articles were subsequently collected into a four-volume set and provide much of the source material for quotes in later books.
I tried to read it straight through, but it's best to hop from topic to topic, some of which are quite obscure (the US evacuation of Texas was fascinating).
Another good one is Henry Hunt writing to protest that if Meade had given him permission, none of Pickett's (or anyone else's) troops would have reached the stone wall at Gettysburg. He claimed his artillery was pointless held back from doing a proper job.
Fascinating stuff.
a great work was that the style of the time was to be very florid and
wordy, as you know if you've read much Victorian era writing. Grant
ignored all of that and wrote almost like Hemingway, 30 years before
Hemingway was born. It was a great astonishment to the readers of his
era, and it makes Grant very readable to modern eyes, unlike most
Victorian writers. I think that shows that even at the end, he did what
he thought was right and never let anyone else tell him what he should
do. (sometimes that got him in trouble, of course)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:33 AM (V2Yro)
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Yes, and if you want to get a sense of how other generals wrote, Battles and Leaders is your go-to source. Lots of florid language, particularly from PGT Beauregard who is an insufferable prick.
For those who don't know, Century Magazine was a major publication in post-war America and 20 years after the war, began publishing short articles by veterans about various aspects.
It almost immediately degenerated into a name-calling contest which had a huge impact on how the war was perceived.
The articles were subsequently collected into a four-volume set and provide much of the source material for quotes in later books.
I tried to read it straight through, but it's best to hop from topic to topic, some of which are quite obscure (the US evacuation of Texas was fascinating).
Another good one is Henry Hunt writing to protest that if Meade had given him permission, none of Pickett's (or anyone else's) troops would have reached the stone wall at Gettysburg. He claimed his artillery was pointless held back from doing a proper job.
Fascinating stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)
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What dramatic event happened in Hemmingway's personal life in the mid to late 1930's ?
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I am going to try War and Peace again this year. The last time, I chose a translation in which the author determined that the French dialogue portions must not be translated into English, for, um, authenticity or some such.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:25 AM (OX9vb)
I recommend the Pevear/Volokhonsky translation, but the French is translated in the footnotes, not the main text, so pick another translation if that bothers you. They do include a very handy cheat sheet for the multiple Russian names and diminutives for each character.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 09:25 AM (OX9vb)
I recommend the Pevear/Volokhonsky translation, but the French is translated in the footnotes, not the main text, so pick another translation if that bothers you. They do include a very handy cheat sheet for the multiple Russian names and diminutives for each character.
Posted by: cool breeze at January 05, 2020 10:44 AM (UGKMd)
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I have been devouring the "Arisen" series by Michael Stephen Fuchs (the first books in the series co-written with Glynn James). There are (I think) 14 books in the series plus three prequels.
I was hesitant at first to start another Tier 1 Special Operators Trying to Save the World From the Zombie Apocalypse series, but I got hooked right away. Good writing, engaging characters, badass hardware, and lots of definite "Oh, shit, how are they going to survive this?" moments. The answer of course, is that in reality they wouldn't have, but it's enjoyable nonetheless. And it isn't reality, Thank God! I have to continue now, just to see if they actually can save the human race.
Pure, well-executed escapism read.
I was hesitant at first to start another Tier 1 Special Operators Trying to Save the World From the Zombie Apocalypse series, but I got hooked right away. Good writing, engaging characters, badass hardware, and lots of definite "Oh, shit, how are they going to survive this?" moments. The answer of course, is that in reality they wouldn't have, but it's enjoyable nonetheless. And it isn't reality, Thank God! I have to continue now, just to see if they actually can save the human race.
Pure, well-executed escapism read.
Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at January 05, 2020 10:44 AM (wZ9cV)
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211 Morning Readers!
Posted by: Weasel at January 05, 2020 10:38 AM (MVjcR)
This works both as a cheerful greeting and a sign over an endcap at Walgreens.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (t+qrx)
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That it does!
Posted by: Weasel at January 05, 2020 10:38 AM (MVjcR)
This works both as a cheerful greeting and a sign over an endcap at Walgreens.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (t+qrx)
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That it does!
Posted by: Weasel at January 05, 2020 10:45 AM (MVjcR)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:35 AM (cfSRQ)
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I'm glad you began with Denethor, because that was the treatment that really sent me over the edge. Awful! This was an intelligent man manipulated for years by a malignant force. Making the icy and disapproving father into a greasy, fleck-spittled raving loon was one of many odd choices by Jackson.
Oddly, I love the actor as Walter Bishop in Fringe, so I'm pinning it on Jackson.
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I'm glad you began with Denethor, because that was the treatment that really sent me over the edge. Awful! This was an intelligent man manipulated for years by a malignant force. Making the icy and disapproving father into a greasy, fleck-spittled raving loon was one of many odd choices by Jackson.
Oddly, I love the actor as Walter Bishop in Fringe, so I'm pinning it on Jackson.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:45 AM (Dc2NZ)
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I would recommend W&P translation edited and approved by Tolstoy himself.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:45 AM (zr5Kq)
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Finally a book thread building I have been to. I love bookstores where it looks like 1 man's love of books overstuffed into a too small space, filled with a handful of treasure hunters.
Also, the Sambo's thing is very odd, seeing the tiger and the clothes, but no Lil' Black Sambo. I figured in this version, the tiger won and enjoyed his Sambwich.
Also, the Sambo's thing is very odd, seeing the tiger and the clothes, but no Lil' Black Sambo. I figured in this version, the tiger won and enjoyed his Sambwich.
Posted by: Downcast at January 05, 2020 10:45 AM (1PYHw)
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Fascinating stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)
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Beauregard was a military genius. Just ask him.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)
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Beauregard was a military genius. Just ask him.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 10:46 AM (mWzQJ)
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Jackson's biggest flaw was to leave out the most important character in the entire story - Tom Bombadil.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
You know why, right?
https://stoatnet.org/tombombadil.jpg
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
You know why, right?
https://stoatnet.org/tombombadil.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 10:46 AM (t+qrx)
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Didn't he write something about army ants and being wheelchair bound at the edge of a piranha filled river as well?
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Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:47 AM (Dc2NZ)
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What dramatic event happened in Hemmingway's personal life in the mid to late 1930's ?
He went to the Spanish Civil War and fell in love with the Cause. And he got wrapped up in himself as a character rather than the creator of characters.
And now that Dildo's in the thread, it's possible that he was an asshole and it caught up with him.
He went to the Spanish Civil War and fell in love with the Cause. And he got wrapped up in himself as a character rather than the creator of characters.
And now that Dildo's in the thread, it's possible that he was an asshole and it caught up with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:47 AM (gd9RK)
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What dramatic event happened in Hemmingway's personal life in the mid to late 1930's ?
Posted by: runner
He was an ambulance driver on the Italian front during ww1
Posted by: runner
He was an ambulance driver on the Italian front during ww1
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 05, 2020 10:48 AM (VcFUs)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 05, 2020 10:48 AM (G546f)
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I figured in this version, the tiger won and enjoyed his Sambwich.
Posted by: Downcast at January 05, 2020 10:45 AM (1PYHw)
Tigers will win CFP Jan. 13.
Posted by: Downcast at January 05, 2020 10:45 AM (1PYHw)
Tigers will win CFP Jan. 13.
Posted by: BignJames at January 05, 2020 10:48 AM (X/Pw5)
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I recall that Mark Twain was instrumental in getting it published...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (wYseH)
Twain arranged for Grant to publish his memoirs through the publishing house he controlled. Twain had known Grant, having been first introduced to him during his presidency.
Twain talks about him in his own Autobiography.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 10:39 AM (wYseH)
Twain arranged for Grant to publish his memoirs through the publishing house he controlled. Twain had known Grant, having been first introduced to him during his presidency.
Twain talks about him in his own Autobiography.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:49 AM (1glZx)
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He was an ambulance driver on the Italian front during ww1
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 05, 2020 10:48 AM (VcFUs)
Or just wrote about a real ambulance driver?
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 05, 2020 10:48 AM (VcFUs)
Or just wrote about a real ambulance driver?
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 10:49 AM (2DOZq)
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Did you read my Intercourse comment ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:35 AM (arJlL)
no?
Posted by: vmom 2020
I was thinking of Beaver College; they changed the name of THAT !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:35 AM (arJlL)
no?
Posted by: vmom 2020
I was thinking of Beaver College; they changed the name of THAT !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 10:50 AM (arJlL)
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All the best with the work ahead.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:42 AM (U7k5w)
Thank you. And it's gonna be work, that's for sure.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:42 AM (U7k5w)
Thank you. And it's gonna be work, that's for sure.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:50 AM (NWiLs)
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Authors I've given up on include the one's mentioned above. Heinlein when he reached his creepy, dirty old man stage. Ludlum after one book. Clancy, Clavell and King when they became too big to edit. Do you really need a thousand pages to tell this story? Still reading Sandford, at least his Virgil Flowers books. His Lucas Davenport and Connelly's Bosch are on a short leash. The bodies pile up and I don't think any department would allow a killing machine on payroll but, hey, it's fiction. Read a couple of Silva's but they seemed to be the same book over and over.
Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at January 05, 2020 09:41 AM (XHdLb)
I would say I gave up on Bosch after about 3 books(?), but it's probably more accurate to say I didn't have anything motivating me to continue beyond that point.
Frankly, the problem with serials, especially crime serials, is that tv shows happened.
Seriously, the medium is perfect for the genre, you can easily suspend your disbelief, and just go with "this week's" murder, without really having to have a genuine world rebuilt every time you dive in.
And now that we're (at least I am) away from depending on a network schedule, series like Bosch can do 10 or so episodes to basically wrap up one book's worth of murders, and you can watch them back to back to back, without commercials, and without it being on a weekly schedule, I'd say there's not really any particular reason to read the books anymore.
Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at January 05, 2020 09:41 AM (XHdLb)
I would say I gave up on Bosch after about 3 books(?), but it's probably more accurate to say I didn't have anything motivating me to continue beyond that point.
Frankly, the problem with serials, especially crime serials, is that tv shows happened.
Seriously, the medium is perfect for the genre, you can easily suspend your disbelief, and just go with "this week's" murder, without really having to have a genuine world rebuilt every time you dive in.
And now that we're (at least I am) away from depending on a network schedule, series like Bosch can do 10 or so episodes to basically wrap up one book's worth of murders, and you can watch them back to back to back, without commercials, and without it being on a weekly schedule, I'd say there's not really any particular reason to read the books anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 10:51 AM (hku12)
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I think Hemingway just ran out of Hemingway, he referred to his writing as opening a vein, and eventually his personal topics ran out. Old Man and the Sea being an exception.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 10:52 AM (U7k5w)
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I believe he volunteered for the ambulance driver duty. Probably why he was so obsessed with gangrene in some of his short stories. I had forgotten out his descent into the Spanish civil war. Good thing there weren't helicopters back then or Pinochet's ancestor would've given him a one way ticket.
Posted by: BifBewalski at January 05, 2020 10:52 AM (VcFUs)
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I humbly suggest this as a starting point:https://tinyurl.com/wx9ey6g
(It's an essay of mine on the topic at bleedingfool.com)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:35 AM (cfSRQ)
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I noticed you said the beginning was better than the rest. I wonder if this isn't a curse of our culture. As you mentioned, the FIRST Narnia was very well done. But Prince Caspian lost it. (I never watched another.) Even, at a lower level, I noticed that the Potters had a similar arc. A good start, then progressively worse.
Maybe I should be thankful they didn't follow up Master and Commander, the last movie I truly liked. (And which, BTW, should have gotten best special effects over whichever LOTR movie beat it. You cannot say an orc is done inaccurately; it's a mythical beast. But the world is full of us ship nerds, and M&C did a pretty good job.)
I humbly suggest this as a starting point:https://tinyurl.com/wx9ey6g
(It's an essay of mine on the topic at bleedingfool.com)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:35 AM (cfSRQ)
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I noticed you said the beginning was better than the rest. I wonder if this isn't a curse of our culture. As you mentioned, the FIRST Narnia was very well done. But Prince Caspian lost it. (I never watched another.) Even, at a lower level, I noticed that the Potters had a similar arc. A good start, then progressively worse.
Maybe I should be thankful they didn't follow up Master and Commander, the last movie I truly liked. (And which, BTW, should have gotten best special effects over whichever LOTR movie beat it. You cannot say an orc is done inaccurately; it's a mythical beast. But the world is full of us ship nerds, and M&C did a pretty good job.)
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ZbwAu)
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Hemingway, besides his novels and short stories worked as a reporter for the Toronto Star and later for a variety of wire services covering Europe through Turkey.
He had to be concise and almost staccato. He also wrote for magazines, his letters to Esquire, when it was a men's magazine can be hilarious and interesting.
He was a commie during the Spanish Civil War writing almost exclusively about how the government, Republicans, were the good guys. All bullshit and propaganda. Between his SJW tendencies and booze, plus screwing every female possible, he was pretty broken before WW II.
He had to be concise and almost staccato. He also wrote for magazines, his letters to Esquire, when it was a men's magazine can be hilarious and interesting.
He was a commie during the Spanish Civil War writing almost exclusively about how the government, Republicans, were the good guys. All bullshit and propaganda. Between his SJW tendencies and booze, plus screwing every female possible, he was pretty broken before WW II.
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at January 05, 2020 10:55 AM (Tt761)
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I'm an idiot. You don't reverse engineer blueprints.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:55 AM (zr5Kq)
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Jackson's biggest flaw was to leave out the most important character in the entire story - Tom Bombadil.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
He was THE most important character??
Honestly, it's been so long since I've read these books, and having been filtered through the movies, I'm not exactly sure what the hell Tom contributed to the whole thing, other than helping the wee fellows to survive being consumed almost before their journey got started.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
He was THE most important character??
Honestly, it's been so long since I've read these books, and having been filtered through the movies, I'm not exactly sure what the hell Tom contributed to the whole thing, other than helping the wee fellows to survive being consumed almost before their journey got started.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 10:55 AM (hku12)
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From a filmmaker's perspective I actually understood
this. Very difficult to introduce or integrate a character of that
oddity and obscure significance without an ultimate payoff. He would
need a movie of his own.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (H8QX
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I assume the criticism was a joke, but it's worth noting that Jackson cut scenes like that and then added garbage like the origin story for orcs and Aragorn falling off a cliff.
So it's not just what he cut, but what he added that screwed it up.
this. Very difficult to introduce or integrate a character of that
oddity and obscure significance without an ultimate payoff. He would
need a movie of his own.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 10:43 AM (H8QX
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I assume the criticism was a joke, but it's worth noting that Jackson cut scenes like that and then added garbage like the origin story for orcs and Aragorn falling off a cliff.
So it's not just what he cut, but what he added that screwed it up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 10:56 AM (cfSRQ)
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Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
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I admire your efforts and wish you every success. In fact you have inspired me to start a (slightly less ambitious) project of my own. My Latin is a little rusty though.
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I admire your efforts and wish you every success. In fact you have inspired me to start a (slightly less ambitious) project of my own. My Latin is a little rusty though.
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 10:56 AM (m45I2)
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232 Your odd obsession with CBD is amusing anyway
Posted by: rammajamma at January 05, 2020 10:57 AM (xceTB)
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Reading Douglas Murray et al, "The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam."
It is depressing to see how the all the countries in western and northern Europe have caved to radical islam. They are doomed.
It is depressing to see how the all the countries in western and northern Europe have caved to radical islam. They are doomed.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 05, 2020 10:57 AM (+fPHo)
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He switched his paramours in 1936. From Pauline to Martha.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:57 AM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 10:57 AM (ZCEU2)
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I admire your efforts and wish you every success. In fact you have inspired me to start a (slightly less ambitious) project of my own. My Latin is a little rusty though.
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 10:56 AM (m45I2)
Thank you, I appreciate that. Does your project involve cinnabuns?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 10:56 AM (m45I2)
Thank you, I appreciate that. Does your project involve cinnabuns?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 10:58 AM (NWiLs)
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May not be judged significant, but it does matter IMHO.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:59 AM (zr5Kq)
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I gave up on Stephen King a couple of years ago when I bought a copy of a book that he and his second son wrote together and right off the bat it started off with Trump bashing. I am done with him and he's been my favorite author since I was 13 or so and first read Salem's Lot.
Also, does anyone know why this site has a problem with VPN's?
Also, does anyone know why this site has a problem with VPN's?
Posted by: Happy at January 05, 2020 10:59 AM (GHaZw)
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I noticed you said the beginning was better than the
rest. I wonder if this isn't a curse of our culture. As you mentioned,
the FIRST Narnia was very well done. But Prince Caspian lost it. (I
never watched another.) Even, at a lower level, I noticed that the
Potters had a similar arc. A good start, then progressively worse.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ZbwAu)
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The first movie was better because he stayed closer to the book.
And followed the Bakshi script, which was actually decent for its time and budget.
But as he went along, Jackson started to tweak things, each of which rendered the plot a disordered, random jumble.
I get your point about authors failing to end stories correctly, but this was an adaptation with a huge audience and a known and satisfying ending.
Which Jackson then changed and thereby screwed up.
rest. I wonder if this isn't a curse of our culture. As you mentioned,
the FIRST Narnia was very well done. But Prince Caspian lost it. (I
never watched another.) Even, at a lower level, I noticed that the
Potters had a similar arc. A good start, then progressively worse.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ZbwAu)
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The first movie was better because he stayed closer to the book.
And followed the Bakshi script, which was actually decent for its time and budget.
But as he went along, Jackson started to tweak things, each of which rendered the plot a disordered, random jumble.
I get your point about authors failing to end stories correctly, but this was an adaptation with a huge audience and a known and satisfying ending.
Which Jackson then changed and thereby screwed up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (cfSRQ)
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A thread on how the LotR movies disappoint would be yuge and luxxurious.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (Dc2NZ)
I'm pretty sure this discussion has been had, many times over, in this very comments section.
Be careful what you wish for though, there will be those who come, like a menacing host rising with the sun in the west, to destroy your precious belief that Jackson ultimately was a hack.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 10:25 AM (Dc2NZ)
I'm pretty sure this discussion has been had, many times over, in this very comments section.
Be careful what you wish for though, there will be those who come, like a menacing host rising with the sun in the west, to destroy your precious belief that Jackson ultimately was a hack.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (hku12)
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Maybe I should be thankful they didn't follow up Master and Commander, the last movie I truly liked. (And which, BTW, should have gotten best special effects over whichever LOTR movie beat it. You cannot say an orc is done inaccurately; it's a mythical beast. But the world is full of us ship nerds, and M&C did a pretty good job.)
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ZbwAu)
The movie was instrumental in getting me over the hump in enjoying O'Brian's unique writing style; once done I read the whole series. My mental picture of Jack was always Crowe.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 10:53 AM (ZbwAu)
The movie was instrumental in getting me over the hump in enjoying O'Brian's unique writing style; once done I read the whole series. My mental picture of Jack was always Crowe.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (y7DUB)
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Grant's Personal Memoirs are a delight to read. It
is said that Mark Twain had a very large hand in editing them for
readability, but I suspect a man who spent his entire life writing
reports got to where he did it very well.
I wish Grant had done a memoir of his presidency. I suspect it would have been as well written.
I will look for Chernow's biography.....
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:21 AM (1glZx)
Oh, thanks for that. Will add to reading list (Maybe will get to it...after all the other stuff )
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:24 AM (zr5Kq)
Many consider Grant's memoirs to be the best presidential autobiography ever written. Another cool thing about the book is that it was well known that he needed the money and his family needed the money as he was dying. The nation bought the book because they thought so highly of the man but also to pay him back for his service. Today you see former presidents of a certain party getting paid off for their books. But in this case it was in the open and for a good cause.
is said that Mark Twain had a very large hand in editing them for
readability, but I suspect a man who spent his entire life writing
reports got to where he did it very well.
I wish Grant had done a memoir of his presidency. I suspect it would have been as well written.
I will look for Chernow's biography.....
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 10:21 AM (1glZx)
Oh, thanks for that. Will add to reading list (Maybe will get to it...after all the other stuff )
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:24 AM (zr5Kq)
Many consider Grant's memoirs to be the best presidential autobiography ever written. Another cool thing about the book is that it was well known that he needed the money and his family needed the money as he was dying. The nation bought the book because they thought so highly of the man but also to pay him back for his service. Today you see former presidents of a certain party getting paid off for their books. But in this case it was in the open and for a good cause.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:01 AM (n13/j)
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Yes, and if you want to get a sense of how other generals wrote, Battles and Leaders is your go-to source. Lots of florid language, particularly from PGT Beauregard who is an insufferable prick."
One of my favorite vignettes from that war, which illustrates the huge problems the Confederacy has with it's command structure, involved Beauregard doing just that. His troops were serving under General Bragg's overall command, but Beauregard and Bragg hated each other, and the Confederacy had this states rights thing that always bedeviled them, where Beauregard was supposed to obey Gen'l Bragg, but Bragg had no actual legal authority to force him to do so.
So during a campaign, Bragg decided that Federal troops were in a vulnerable position, and he ordered a general attack to begin at 7 AM, with Beauregard's troops leading an the other regiments following his lead. Bragg's HQ was placed at a high point where he could observe the ensuing battle - but 7 came and went, and then 8 came and went, and no attack. He sent a rider urgently to Beauregard's HQ to find out what had happened, but that rider arrived and found Beauregard and his staff seated at an elaborate 7 course breakfast prepared by the cooking staff which Beauregard had brought with him from his plantation, and eating off the large silver service which Beauregard had also brought with him from his plantation.
The courier approached him and said "Sir, General Bragg demands to know why the attack he has ordered has not yet commenced!"
Beauregard replied "You mean to say that the attack has not yet commenced? Please tell General Bragg that I am greatly disappointed to learn of this - greatly disappointed, sir!" He then dismissed the courier and returned to his 7 course breakfast, laughing and joking with his aides.
When the courier returned to Bragg with this news, he later reported that General Bragg said nothing at all, and appeared to betray no emotion, he simply went into his tent and closed the flaps. His aides later reported that they heard a great deal of loud cursing and the throwing of things inside that tent.
One of my favorite vignettes from that war, which illustrates the huge problems the Confederacy has with it's command structure, involved Beauregard doing just that. His troops were serving under General Bragg's overall command, but Beauregard and Bragg hated each other, and the Confederacy had this states rights thing that always bedeviled them, where Beauregard was supposed to obey Gen'l Bragg, but Bragg had no actual legal authority to force him to do so.
So during a campaign, Bragg decided that Federal troops were in a vulnerable position, and he ordered a general attack to begin at 7 AM, with Beauregard's troops leading an the other regiments following his lead. Bragg's HQ was placed at a high point where he could observe the ensuing battle - but 7 came and went, and then 8 came and went, and no attack. He sent a rider urgently to Beauregard's HQ to find out what had happened, but that rider arrived and found Beauregard and his staff seated at an elaborate 7 course breakfast prepared by the cooking staff which Beauregard had brought with him from his plantation, and eating off the large silver service which Beauregard had also brought with him from his plantation.
The courier approached him and said "Sir, General Bragg demands to know why the attack he has ordered has not yet commenced!"
Beauregard replied "You mean to say that the attack has not yet commenced? Please tell General Bragg that I am greatly disappointed to learn of this - greatly disappointed, sir!" He then dismissed the courier and returned to his 7 course breakfast, laughing and joking with his aides.
When the courier returned to Bragg with this news, he later reported that General Bragg said nothing at all, and appeared to betray no emotion, he simply went into his tent and closed the flaps. His aides later reported that they heard a great deal of loud cursing and the throwing of things inside that tent.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:01 AM (V2Yro)
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(ed.) Don Koboldt, Putting the SCIENCE in Fiction.
I recommend Tom Benedict on "Realistic Astronomy", rather on how astronomers do their job; Philip Kramer the biomedical expert, on how plants DON'T breathe out oxygen at night; Sylvia Wrigley the aviation journo on "Realistic Space Flight" which also goes into how pilots screw up at night and go into the Graveyard Spiral.
It would appear that the instrument-console in the cockpit is helpful. Don't ignore it.
The dumbest take in this book was that by Gwen Katz the chemist, on how entropy works on chemistry. She made the mistake of explaining how Narsil, the sword of the kings of Gondor, couldn't have lasted 3000 years. Almost as if the sword was magic!
Dan Allen's take on "Gravity Basics" was also under-informative. It works for anything without an atmosphere and with low traffic. So if we're writing a story about an orbit around Neptune or Venus, or those big extrasolar planets for that matter - it's no use.
Part Six, which Allen and Katz rounded off, had other stinkers in it. Lanning's "The Future of Energy" has little about nuclear fission, not even thorium; Bianca Nogrady's near-future scenarios were all-in on Green Jerbs and Gerbil Worming.
If you can get past those, these essays are good for a refresher course in basic physics so your stories don't end up looking like a, well, moron wrote it.
I recommend Tom Benedict on "Realistic Astronomy", rather on how astronomers do their job; Philip Kramer the biomedical expert, on how plants DON'T breathe out oxygen at night; Sylvia Wrigley the aviation journo on "Realistic Space Flight" which also goes into how pilots screw up at night and go into the Graveyard Spiral.
It would appear that the instrument-console in the cockpit is helpful. Don't ignore it.
The dumbest take in this book was that by Gwen Katz the chemist, on how entropy works on chemistry. She made the mistake of explaining how Narsil, the sword of the kings of Gondor, couldn't have lasted 3000 years. Almost as if the sword was magic!
Dan Allen's take on "Gravity Basics" was also under-informative. It works for anything without an atmosphere and with low traffic. So if we're writing a story about an orbit around Neptune or Venus, or those big extrasolar planets for that matter - it's no use.
Part Six, which Allen and Katz rounded off, had other stinkers in it. Lanning's "The Future of Energy" has little about nuclear fission, not even thorium; Bianca Nogrady's near-future scenarios were all-in on Green Jerbs and Gerbil Worming.
If you can get past those, these essays are good for a refresher course in basic physics so your stories don't end up looking like a, well, moron wrote it.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 11:02 AM (ykYG2)
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Reading Douglas Murray et al, "The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam."
It is depressing to see how the all the countries in western and northern Europe have caved to radical islam. They are doomed.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 05, 2020 10:57 AM (+fPHo)
I've been debating whether to read that, after having finished "Madness of Crowds." I just think I'm pretty much done with the topic. I'm not sure what else there is to know about it.
Murderous cult, invading and consuming a suicidally spineless continent.
It is depressing to see how the all the countries in western and northern Europe have caved to radical islam. They are doomed.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at January 05, 2020 10:57 AM (+fPHo)
I've been debating whether to read that, after having finished "Madness of Crowds." I just think I'm pretty much done with the topic. I'm not sure what else there is to know about it.
Murderous cult, invading and consuming a suicidally spineless continent.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:04 AM (hku12)
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I'm wondering if Dr Shiva can hook me up with lace wigs...
Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2020 11:04 AM (n6bs1)
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it's possible that he was an asshole and it caught up with him.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:47 AM (gd9RK)
Oh yes...good old Ernest was a prime asshole. But he was so, so good at a few things too.
As you explained to me, he singlehandedly changed fishing! And I believe that he is a great short story writer...work that I find better than his novels.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 10:47 AM (gd9RK)
Oh yes...good old Ernest was a prime asshole. But he was so, so good at a few things too.
As you explained to me, he singlehandedly changed fishing! And I believe that he is a great short story writer...work that I find better than his novels.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 11:04 AM (wYseH)
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I am always surprised at how TV and movies take a great story, wonderful characters, and change everything about them.
Usually they make them more consistent with the values of the target audience.
Usually they make them more consistent with the values of the target audience.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (LxWV7)
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175 Women need an a*hole radar, what do men need ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (AWstk)
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Only heard a hour interview with Douglas Murray but certainly would love to read that book on Death of Europe
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (ZCEU2)
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Be careful what you wish for though, there will be
those who come, like a menacing host rising with the sun in the west, to
destroy your precious belief that Jackson ultimately was a hack.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (hku12)
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We shall count their heads with sharpened DVDs of Meet the Feebles.
those who come, like a menacing host rising with the sun in the west, to
destroy your precious belief that Jackson ultimately was a hack.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (hku12)
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We shall count their heads with sharpened DVDs of Meet the Feebles.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (cfSRQ)
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"Sir Francis Drake," John Sugden:
I had not known that Drake was a devoutly religious man, won spent 2 hours or so in prayer every day, including on his trip around the world. He took religious treatises with him to while away his leisure time at sea. This kind of changes the "Errol Flynn" popular stereotype of Drake, doesn't it?
He was born about as poor as one could be born. Some evidence suggests he was literally born aboard a ship, i.e., a beached, abandoned hulk where his parents could live almost for free. Drake had 11 brothers (!), though some likely died in infancy.
He used his successful maritime career to climb the Elizabethan social ladder-- relentlessly. He was quite good at that too.
Audie Murphy once described himself as "a fugitive from the law of averages." Drake was that to the third power. No wonder he felt that God had selected him for His special divine protection.
I had not known that Drake was a devoutly religious man, won spent 2 hours or so in prayer every day, including on his trip around the world. He took religious treatises with him to while away his leisure time at sea. This kind of changes the "Errol Flynn" popular stereotype of Drake, doesn't it?
He was born about as poor as one could be born. Some evidence suggests he was literally born aboard a ship, i.e., a beached, abandoned hulk where his parents could live almost for free. Drake had 11 brothers (!), though some likely died in infancy.
He used his successful maritime career to climb the Elizabethan social ladder-- relentlessly. He was quite good at that too.
Audie Murphy once described himself as "a fugitive from the law of averages." Drake was that to the third power. No wonder he felt that God had selected him for His special divine protection.
Posted by: mnw at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (Cssks)
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I get your point about authors failing to end stories correctly, but this was an adaptation with a huge audience and a known and satisfying ending.
Which Jackson then changed and thereby screwed up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (cfSRQ)
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I wasn't talking about authors there, but about filmmakers. I certainly don't think Narnia went downhill from TLTW&TW. At least, not until much later. The Silver Chair and Dawn Treader are superb.
But the movie Caspian lost the magic. And only the first Potter caught what was best in THAT series.
I get your point about authors failing to end stories correctly, but this was an adaptation with a huge audience and a known and satisfying ending.
Which Jackson then changed and thereby screwed up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (cfSRQ)
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I wasn't talking about authors there, but about filmmakers. I certainly don't think Narnia went downhill from TLTW&TW. At least, not until much later. The Silver Chair and Dawn Treader are superb.
But the movie Caspian lost the magic. And only the first Potter caught what was best in THAT series.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (ZbwAu)
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186 Looks like Iraq is going to kick us out
Excellent news! We'll leave and take our billions in aid money with us. We'll put it to more productive uses elsewhere.
Excellent news! We'll leave and take our billions in aid money with us. We'll put it to more productive uses elsewhere.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AWstk)
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I found Old Man and the Sea quite boring. Maybe I should try it again.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (MTxDQ)
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I have always loved The Sun Also Rises.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (n13/j)
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Nice account of the Little Black Sambo story and how the characters evolved into racist depictions associated with Africa rather than India.
It occurs to me that I am probably forever barred from holding elective office by the fact that my second ever job was waiting tables on the 10 pm to 6 am shift at a Sambo's Restaurant in Costa Mesa, CA.
It occurs to me that I am probably forever barred from holding elective office by the fact that my second ever job was waiting tables on the 10 pm to 6 am shift at a Sambo's Restaurant in Costa Mesa, CA.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (XVuno)
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Lea up on 259, please
Posted by: Fox2! at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (qyH+l)
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Be careful what you wish for though, there will be
those who come, like a menacing host rising with the sun in the west, to
destroy your precious belief that Jackson ultimately was a hack.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (hku12)
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We shall count their heads with sharpened DVDs of Meet the Feebles.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (cfSRQ)
I have no idea what Meet the Feebles is, but that sounds like a terrible way to die.
those who come, like a menacing host rising with the sun in the west, to
destroy your precious belief that Jackson ultimately was a hack.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (hku12)
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We shall count their heads with sharpened DVDs of Meet the Feebles.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (cfSRQ)
I have no idea what Meet the Feebles is, but that sounds like a terrible way to die.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (hku12)
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Excellent news! We'll leave and take our billions in aid money with us. We'll put it to more productive uses elsewhere.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AWstk)
Like...oh, I dunno...a wall?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AWstk)
Like...oh, I dunno...a wall?
Posted by: BignJames at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (X/Pw5)
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Oh yes...good old Ernest was a prime asshole. But he was so, so good at a few things too.
As you explained to me, he singlehandedly changed fishing! And I believe that he is a great short story writer...work that I find better than his novels.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
HOW did he singlehandedly change fishing, exactly ?
As you explained to me, he singlehandedly changed fishing! And I believe that he is a great short story writer...work that I find better than his novels.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
HOW did he singlehandedly change fishing, exactly ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)
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Although I have my gripes about the LOTR movies (forget the Hobbit fiasco), I'm not as bummed out as some people. But I regard the movies and books as very separate entities. Jackson annoyed me with how he treated Denethor. Also, After Gandalf comes back the The White, the character seems diminished. I understand leaving out Tom Bombadil much as I like the character. But he isn't pivotal to the plot, more for establishing a Middle-Earth mythos.
Posted by: JTB at January 05, 2020 11:09 AM (7EjX1)
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Excellent news! We'll leave and take our billions in aid money with us. We'll put it to more productive uses elsewhere.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AWstk)
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Give them six months and they'll be putting up bamboo control towers and warehouses to magically invite the return of American largesse.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AWstk)
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Give them six months and they'll be putting up bamboo control towers and warehouses to magically invite the return of American largesse.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:09 AM (XVuno)
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267 175 Women need an a*hole radar, what do men need ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (AWstk)
Crazy radar. Evil radar.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (AWstk)
Crazy radar. Evil radar.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:09 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Wut at January 05, 2020 11:10 AM (NSFCQ)
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:10 AM (MTxDQ)
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Looks like Iraq is going to kick us out
Posted by: Kurt at January 05, 2020 10:31 AM (U7ujO)
It a quick redeployment to the newly independent country of Kurdistan
Posted by: Kurt at January 05, 2020 10:31 AM (U7ujO)
It a quick redeployment to the newly independent country of Kurdistan
Posted by: cool breeze at January 05, 2020 11:10 AM (UGKMd)
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One of my favorite vignettes from that war, which
illustrates the huge problems the Confederacy has with it's command
structure,
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:01 AM (V2Yro)
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I think that if you study the war closely, looking particularly at the logistics, you will conclude that the South got its maximum possible result.
I've played a number of wargames and all of them have to do a "The South Gets Angels on Their Side" special rules because otherwise, the war's over in 1863.
Richmond should have fallen in the spring of 1862. Failing that, Lee and his army should have been captured at Antietam. Or after Gettysburg.
The friction always seemed to cut heavily against the Union at critical moments. Yes, the Union got breaks, but nothing compared to the South.
illustrates the huge problems the Confederacy has with it's command
structure,
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:01 AM (V2Yro)
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I think that if you study the war closely, looking particularly at the logistics, you will conclude that the South got its maximum possible result.
I've played a number of wargames and all of them have to do a "The South Gets Angels on Their Side" special rules because otherwise, the war's over in 1863.
Richmond should have fallen in the spring of 1862. Failing that, Lee and his army should have been captured at Antietam. Or after Gettysburg.
The friction always seemed to cut heavily against the Union at critical moments. Yes, the Union got breaks, but nothing compared to the South.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:10 AM (cfSRQ)
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I only read The Hobbit as a kid so the LOTR never meant a lot to me. I think I was too busy reading Soldier of Fortune mags.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (n13/j)
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The movie was instrumental in getting me over the hump in enjoying O'Brian's unique writing style; once done I read the whole series. My mental picture of Jack was always Crowe.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (y7DUB)
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Agreed. Well, I ran through the Aubreyad with no urging. But it's not just Crowe, for me. It's the entire crew, except Bonden. He should be the 2nd biggest man in the crew (behind Awkward Davies). And he's a shrimp; in fact, tying it back up, he played Pippen in LOTR.
The movie was instrumental in getting me over the hump in enjoying O'Brian's unique writing style; once done I read the whole series. My mental picture of Jack was always Crowe.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 11:00 AM (y7DUB)
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Agreed. Well, I ran through the Aubreyad with no urging. But it's not just Crowe, for me. It's the entire crew, except Bonden. He should be the 2nd biggest man in the crew (behind Awkward Davies). And he's a shrimp; in fact, tying it back up, he played Pippen in LOTR.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (ZbwAu)
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I had not known that Drake was a devoutly religious man, won spent 2 hours or so in prayer every day, including on his trip around the world. He took religious treatises with him to while away his leisure time at sea. This kind of changes the "Errol Flynn" popular stereotype of Drake, doesn't it?
He also enjoyed looting churches and raping nuns.
I had not known that Drake was a devoutly religious man, won spent 2 hours or so in prayer every day, including on his trip around the world. He took religious treatises with him to while away his leisure time at sea. This kind of changes the "Errol Flynn" popular stereotype of Drake, doesn't it?
He also enjoyed looting churches and raping nuns.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (qyH+l)
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I was 13 or so and first read Salem's Lot.
Also, does anyone know why this site has a problem with VPN's?
Posted by: Happy at January 05, 2020 10:59 AM (GHaZw)
Great and scary book!
And VPNs are used by spammers and trolls, so the software is very suspicious of them.
Also, does anyone know why this site has a problem with VPN's?
Posted by: Happy at January 05, 2020 10:59 AM (GHaZw)
Great and scary book!
And VPNs are used by spammers and trolls, so the software is very suspicious of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (wYseH)
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Dr Shiva is truely gifted and he alone can solve your relationship and marriage problem.
Posted by: Evert Ballet at January 05, 2020 11:01 AM (oc/r0)
Is that an unknown Heinlein story?
Posted by: Evert Ballet at January 05, 2020 11:01 AM (oc/r0)
Is that an unknown Heinlein story?
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (V2Yro)
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As you explained to me, he singlehandedly changed fishing! And I believe that he is a great short story writer...work that I find better than his novels.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
HOW did he singlehandedly change fishing, exactly ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)
At Lake Weretrout, you can fish changelings.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
HOW did he singlehandedly change fishing, exactly ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)
At Lake Weretrout, you can fish changelings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (LxWV7)
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This was part of the Tom Bombadil 3-D segment cut from even the extended director's cut:
Toke-a-lid! Smoke-a-lid! Pop the mescalino!
Stash the hash! Gonna crash! Make mine methedrino!
Hop a hill! Pop a pill! For Old Tim Benzedrino!
Snorting, sporting! Speeding through the arbor,
Pushing till the folk you burn toss you in the harbor!
Screeching like a dying loon, zooming like a thrush,
Follow me and very soon, your mind will turn to mush!
Higher than the nowhere birds grooving in the air,
We'll open up a sandal shop where everyone will share!
Flower folk are springing up, wearing bead and boot,
And if you down me you can stick a flower up your snoot!
To Love and Peace and Brotherhood we all can snort a toast,
And if the heat is on again, we'll all split to the Coast!
Toke-a-lid! Smoke-a-lid! Pop the mescalino!
Stash the hash! Gonna crash! Make mine methedrino!
Hop a hill! Pop a pill! For Old Tim Benzedrino!
Snorting, sporting! Speeding through the arbor,
Pushing till the folk you burn toss you in the harbor!
Screeching like a dying loon, zooming like a thrush,
Follow me and very soon, your mind will turn to mush!
Higher than the nowhere birds grooving in the air,
We'll open up a sandal shop where everyone will share!
Flower folk are springing up, wearing bead and boot,
And if you down me you can stick a flower up your snoot!
To Love and Peace and Brotherhood we all can snort a toast,
And if the heat is on again, we'll all split to the Coast!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (Dc2NZ)
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278 Excellent news! We'll leave and take our billions in aid money with us. We'll put it to more productive uses elsewhere.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AWstk)
So Iraq has thrown in with the mullahs. We had better take the money with us, and blow up any equipment we're not taking home.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (AWstk)
So Iraq has thrown in with the mullahs. We had better take the money with us, and blow up any equipment we're not taking home.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:12 AM (U7k5w)
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So Iraq has thrown in with the mullahs. We had better take the money with us, and blow up any equipment we're not taking home.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:12 AM (U7k5w)
Then we can make a glass parking lot.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:12 AM (U7k5w)
Then we can make a glass parking lot.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:13 AM (MTxDQ)
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I found my copy of Eric Frank Russell's Next of Kin as I was searching for another book, so I re-read it.
In a war between the Human Allies and the Lanthian axis, John leeman is sent on a reconnaissance run in an advanced, unarmed scout ship to determine the depth of the Axis' area of control.
His ship's drive fails and he is forced to land on the planet Zangasta, where he destroys his ship, plays hide and seek with the reptilian locals, and winds up in a POW camp.
He determines to escape by driving his captors to distraction through claiming that every human is accompanied through his life by a disembodied being that is nonetheless able to create bad luck and sabotage when its Human is mistreated or wronged.
In the way that a Gypsy's Curse always seems to come true, the Zangastans come against the Eustace's sabotage time and time again, and manage to confirm its existence and fear.
In a war between the Human Allies and the Lanthian axis, John leeman is sent on a reconnaissance run in an advanced, unarmed scout ship to determine the depth of the Axis' area of control.
His ship's drive fails and he is forced to land on the planet Zangasta, where he destroys his ship, plays hide and seek with the reptilian locals, and winds up in a POW camp.
He determines to escape by driving his captors to distraction through claiming that every human is accompanied through his life by a disembodied being that is nonetheless able to create bad luck and sabotage when its Human is mistreated or wronged.
In the way that a Gypsy's Curse always seems to come true, the Zangastans come against the Eustace's sabotage time and time again, and manage to confirm its existence and fear.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 11:13 AM (1glZx)
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I have no idea what Meet the Feebles is, but that sounds like a terrible way to die.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (hku12)
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It is a "comedy" Jackson did ripping on The Muppets.
It is terrible. Brain-bleach bad.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (hku12)
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It is a "comedy" Jackson did ripping on The Muppets.
It is terrible. Brain-bleach bad.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:14 AM (cfSRQ)
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273 I found Old Man and the Sea quite boring. Maybe I should try it again.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (MTxDQ)
I found it incredibly dull as well. Oh look the old man fights and fights and fights and all he gets is an old fish skeleton. Boo Hoo!!
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (MTxDQ)
I found it incredibly dull as well. Oh look the old man fights and fights and fights and all he gets is an old fish skeleton. Boo Hoo!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:14 AM (V2Yro)
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Dept of Where We Are At Now:
Local weekly lists the topics for the "Great Decisions" lecture series, co-sponsored by the County Committee on Aging (that would be the Meals on Wheels agency, tax-funded) and the Am Assoc of Univ Women of local Second-Rate State, known at my house as Alma Mater. In my day missy, the AAUW was the enforcer of curfews and rules against riding in cars with boys.
"China's Road into Latin America: presented by Dr Amilcar Challu. As the Trump administration continues to withdraw from the world stage, China is looking to fill the void. How does Latin America fit into China's "One Belt, One Road" plan? " That is the posted topic. Pretty honest of them.
This scholar, who appears to be an Argentine originally, is a Harvard PhD, an expert (!) on Mexican history, and somehow manages to be an associate prof and the chairman of the history department. Now I wonder what's left of the department.
I have never before heard of a Mexican history expert complain of Trump withdrawing from the world stage. Chances that Dr Challu is a conservative? Class?
Local weekly lists the topics for the "Great Decisions" lecture series, co-sponsored by the County Committee on Aging (that would be the Meals on Wheels agency, tax-funded) and the Am Assoc of Univ Women of local Second-Rate State, known at my house as Alma Mater. In my day missy, the AAUW was the enforcer of curfews and rules against riding in cars with boys.
"China's Road into Latin America: presented by Dr Amilcar Challu. As the Trump administration continues to withdraw from the world stage, China is looking to fill the void. How does Latin America fit into China's "One Belt, One Road" plan? " That is the posted topic. Pretty honest of them.
This scholar, who appears to be an Argentine originally, is a Harvard PhD, an expert (!) on Mexican history, and somehow manages to be an associate prof and the chairman of the history department. Now I wonder what's left of the department.
I have never before heard of a Mexican history expert complain of Trump withdrawing from the world stage. Chances that Dr Challu is a conservative? Class?
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 05, 2020 11:14 AM (oRpiG)
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Women need an a*hole radar, what do men need ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (AWstk)
I would say a BPD radar, but you don't really need a radar for that. Wait about a week, after she convinces you she's the "perfect" woman, she'll let you know she's not.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (AWstk)
I would say a BPD radar, but you don't really need a radar for that. Wait about a week, after she convinces you she's the "perfect" woman, she'll let you know she's not.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)
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Iraq is not going to kick us out. Some Iranian stooges in Iraqi parliament are making noise. No one is listening. Except Kurt. He is dumb like that.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (zr5Kq)
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Hey COBs: Our relationship advice guru recommender (perhaps it's you honey, not him) has made appearances in the EMT and ONT threads.
Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (pXNaM)
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I re-read Jim Butcher's Peace Talks, the most recent in his series of the Chicago Private Investigator turned Wizard - the Dresden Files.
Oh, so that finally happened, did it? I gave up checking his website for it a couple of years ago.
OK, so I just did check and it shows a publication date of 07/14/2020. So do you have an ARC or did you mean a different title?
Oh, so that finally happened, did it? I gave up checking his website for it a couple of years ago.
OK, so I just did check and it shows a publication date of 07/14/2020. So do you have an ARC or did you mean a different title?
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (d6Ksn)
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The fatal flaw when people asses the Civil War is the presumption that the Confederacy was doomed to fail and the USA was the inevitable winner. That argument assumes that the USA would be determined to persevere and all the votes would come out right. Britain gave up against American rebels in a war that was much more of a mis match.
The CSA had to be conquered, all the USA had to do it say enough is enough.
The CSA had to be conquered, all the USA had to do it say enough is enough.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (n13/j)
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284 Sambo's Restaurant in Costa Mesa, CA.
I remember eating there. Usually after skating practice.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:10 AM (MTxDQ)
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If you ever came in stone cold drunk at 3 a.m. and passed out in one of the booths after vomiting in the parking lot, I probably waited on you!
I remember eating there. Usually after skating practice.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:10 AM (MTxDQ)
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If you ever came in stone cold drunk at 3 a.m. and passed out in one of the booths after vomiting in the parking lot, I probably waited on you!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (XVuno)
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Then we can make a glass parking lot.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:13 AM (MTxDQ)
And we need to kick a boatload of Iraqis and Iranians out of the US. The Iranians in particular are a danger.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:13 AM (MTxDQ)
And we need to kick a boatload of Iraqis and Iranians out of the US. The Iranians in particular are a danger.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (U7k5w)
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I am a huge fan of Brandon Sanderson After reading his reckoners and now I am onto MISTBORN, Think of Lord of the rings and they lost and it's been 1000 years in the dark Lord has been reining over Humans and Some Human Thieves think they can over throw him. He has an interesting use of magic where the person has to and just the metals in order to use magic.
I stopped reading dragon republic I keep trying and it's garbage. First book is good
I stopped reading dragon republic I keep trying and it's garbage. First book is good
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (dKiJG)
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Reading an interesting historical-fantasy book by Walter Hunt, called _Harmony In Light_. It's the sequel to his earlier book _Elements of Mind_. Both are set in the 19th century, and the fantasy part is that Mesmerism works, and is actually a very powerful form of magic.
_Harmony_, in my opinion, is better than the first book. It's an engaging mystery and the depiction of 1880s Paris is wonderful.
He's also written some science fiction, and is part of the ever-expanding "1632" team writing novels set in Eric Flint's alternate past where a modern West Virginia town gets dumped into the middle of the Thirty Years' War.
_Harmony_, in my opinion, is better than the first book. It's an engaging mystery and the depiction of 1880s Paris is wonderful.
He's also written some science fiction, and is part of the ever-expanding "1632" team writing novels set in Eric Flint's alternate past where a modern West Virginia town gets dumped into the middle of the Thirty Years' War.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (urZJh)
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"King Kong" was Jackson's best film. 30 minutes too long, but otherwise pretty good.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX8)
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He was THE most important character??
Honestly, it's been so long since I've read these books, and having been filtered through the movies, I'm not exactly sure what the hell Tom contributed to the whole thing, other than helping the wee fellows to survive being consumed almost before their journey got started.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 10:55 AM (hku12)
Well it's been a long time since I've paid much attention to that part of the story too, but this here is the book thread, so why not bloviate and make stuff up.
*packs Dunhill 965, lights pipe*
Tom Bombadil's most significant contribution is not a practical one but a spiritual one. When they first meet him, the hobbits are a couple of blocks away from home on the longest journey any of their kind has ever imagined, carrying the absolute physical seat of Sauron's power and influence, on a mission to destroy it. Then they meet Tom. He is utterly unaffected by the Ring. It doesn't tempt him, can't corrupt him, he's just plain not interested. Even Gandalf - who is an agent of divinity in that world - doesn't dare to handle it any more than absolutely necessary. But Tom don't care. He plays little magic tricks with it. He casually proves to a pack of tiny hobbits who have just been saddled with the single most powerful and terrifying artifact in the known universe that it is not absolutely powerful. Before that, they had not thought it possible that the task could actually be completed.
Anyway, that could all be wrong, I kinda just made it up.
Oh, lunchtime.
Honestly, it's been so long since I've read these books, and having been filtered through the movies, I'm not exactly sure what the hell Tom contributed to the whole thing, other than helping the wee fellows to survive being consumed almost before their journey got started.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 10:55 AM (hku12)
Well it's been a long time since I've paid much attention to that part of the story too, but this here is the book thread, so why not bloviate and make stuff up.
*packs Dunhill 965, lights pipe*
Tom Bombadil's most significant contribution is not a practical one but a spiritual one. When they first meet him, the hobbits are a couple of blocks away from home on the longest journey any of their kind has ever imagined, carrying the absolute physical seat of Sauron's power and influence, on a mission to destroy it. Then they meet Tom. He is utterly unaffected by the Ring. It doesn't tempt him, can't corrupt him, he's just plain not interested. Even Gandalf - who is an agent of divinity in that world - doesn't dare to handle it any more than absolutely necessary. But Tom don't care. He plays little magic tricks with it. He casually proves to a pack of tiny hobbits who have just been saddled with the single most powerful and terrifying artifact in the known universe that it is not absolutely powerful. Before that, they had not thought it possible that the task could actually be completed.
Anyway, that could all be wrong, I kinda just made it up.
Oh, lunchtime.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (t+qrx)
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FUSTIGATE: I presume that a female who fustigates is a "fustigatrix."
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (d9Cw3)
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My brother-in-law did buy the Rush Limbaugh history books for my son and we're starting to read them.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (dKiJG)
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That bit of Trump-bashing must have felt good. Now, when that department loses its ability to grant advanced degrees, and isn't funded for grad studies, and the Meals on Wheels levy doesn't pass, they're going to call us all "anti-intellectual."
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (oRpiG)
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I found Old Man and the Sea quite boring. Maybe I should try it again.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (MTxDQ)
Spencer Tracy plated the Old Man in the flick; and he used Kathryn Hepburn for bait !
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:07 AM (MTxDQ)
Spencer Tracy plated the Old Man in the flick; and he used Kathryn Hepburn for bait !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (arJlL)
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"King Kong" was Jackson's best film. 30 minutes too long, but otherwise pretty good.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Dead Alive.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Dead Alive.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (t+qrx)
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I would say a BPD radar, but you don't really need a radar for that. Wait about a week, after she convinces you she's the "perfect" woman, she'll let you know she's not.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)
Sometimes they can keep it under wraps for a lot longer than a week. Those are the really dangerous ones.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)
Sometimes they can keep it under wraps for a lot longer than a week. Those are the really dangerous ones.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (NWiLs)
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270 "Sir Francis Drake," John Sugden:
I had not known that Drake was a devoutly religious man
Posted by: mnw at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (Cssks)
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That was pretty much universal at the time. Once again, for background, I recommend C S Lewis's "The New Learning and the New Ignorance", his intro to his history of 16th C lit. It's online. And should be mandatory.
But taking one's religion seriously was just a much in vogue in the late 16th C as it is out of vogue today.
I had not known that Drake was a devoutly religious man
Posted by: mnw at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (Cssks)
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That was pretty much universal at the time. Once again, for background, I recommend C S Lewis's "The New Learning and the New Ignorance", his intro to his history of 16th C lit. It's online. And should be mandatory.
But taking one's religion seriously was just a much in vogue in the late 16th C as it is out of vogue today.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (ZbwAu)
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268 Only heard a hour interview with Douglas Murray but certainly would love to read that book on Death of Europe
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (ZCEU2)
Great read. And Murray's videos are always worth watching - especially the ones where he shares the stage with lefty dimwits.
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:06 AM (ZCEU2)
Great read. And Murray's videos are always worth watching - especially the ones where he shares the stage with lefty dimwits.
Posted by: Donna&&&&V. at January 05, 2020 11:18 AM (d6Ksn)
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310 "King Kong" was Jackson's best film. 30 minutes too long, but otherwise pretty good.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Needed more nudity.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Needed more nudity.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 05, 2020 11:18 AM (qyH+l)
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and yes, I did write a couple books about the development of Islam. "House of War" was the one that garnered the reviews: three 4/5's (and one 1/5 by an antifa troll, which Amazon cleaned up, after about 11 months).
"Throne of Glass" details the origin of Sunnism under the Ibn al-Ash'ath Mutiny:
amazon.com/Throne-Glass-Formations-Islamic-State/dp/1502536374
I advertised that one in here (thank you OregonMuse) and I am pretty sure that several readers took their cue and bought it, but nobody has reviewed it yet.
"Throne of Glass" details the origin of Sunnism under the Ibn al-Ash'ath Mutiny:
amazon.com/Throne-Glass-Formations-Islamic-State/dp/1502536374
I advertised that one in here (thank you OregonMuse) and I am pretty sure that several readers took their cue and bought it, but nobody has reviewed it yet.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 11:19 AM (ykYG2)
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I loved Cryptonomicon and also The Baroque Cycle, but haven't read anything recent by him.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 05, 2020 10:29 AM (rCwaK
If you liked those, I recommend Anathem, but do yourself a favor and stop right there when you're done with that.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 05, 2020 10:29 AM (rCwaK
If you liked those, I recommend Anathem, but do yourself a favor and stop right there when you're done with that.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (t+qrx)
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King Kong" was Jackson's best film. 30 minutes too long, but otherwise pretty good.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Dead Alive.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (t+qrx)
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*ahem* "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Dead Alive.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (t+qrx)
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*ahem* "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (mWzQJ)
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HOW did he singlehandedly change fishing, exactly ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)
At Lake Weretrout, you can fish changelings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (LxWV7)
I always say McDonald's singlehandedly changed fishing, by making a tasty fish sandwich, without any of the nasty fish taste.
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)
At Lake Weretrout, you can fish changelings.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (LxWV7)
I always say McDonald's singlehandedly changed fishing, by making a tasty fish sandwich, without any of the nasty fish taste.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (hku12)
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301 Iraq is not going to kick us out. Some Iranian stooges in Iraqi parliament are making noise. No one is listening. Except Kurt. He is dumb like that.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (zr5Kq)
They approved the resolution. Whether we leave or not is up in the air, but why should we give a damn if they're eaten up by their neighbors? Especially if we are technically forbidden to hit back.
This crap where everyone can attack us and be consistent with "international law" while any attempt to retaliate is "illegal" is total nonsense. We should not be playing cops and robbers, but I do like the idea of decimating Iran. Always wish Reagan would have done it.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (zr5Kq)
They approved the resolution. Whether we leave or not is up in the air, but why should we give a damn if they're eaten up by their neighbors? Especially if we are technically forbidden to hit back.
This crap where everyone can attack us and be consistent with "international law" while any attempt to retaliate is "illegal" is total nonsense. We should not be playing cops and robbers, but I do like the idea of decimating Iran. Always wish Reagan would have done it.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (U7k5w)
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My brother-in-law did buy the Rush Limbaugh history books for my son and we're starting to read them.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (dKiJG)
They are great books. I bought them one at a time as they came out. Dad even enjoyed them. Great writing and quality books for kids.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (dKiJG)
They are great books. I bought them one at a time as they came out. Dad even enjoyed them. Great writing and quality books for kids.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (MTxDQ)
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He also enjoyed looting churches and raping nuns.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (qyH+l)
The Spanish had their black legends, just as the English did.
There are actual historians that claim that the Tudors invented self puffing propaganda and black political slander.
Yeah, no.
Posted by: Fox2! at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (qyH+l)
The Spanish had their black legends, just as the English did.
There are actual historians that claim that the Tudors invented self puffing propaganda and black political slander.
Yeah, no.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (1glZx)
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Jackson's biggest flaw was to leave out the most important character in the entire story - Tom Bombadil.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
He was THE most important character??
Honestly, it's been so long since I've read these books, and having
been filtered through the movies, I'm not exactly sure what the hell Tom
contributed to the whole thing, other than helping the wee fellows to
survive being consumed almost before their journey got started.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 10:55 AM (hku12)
Thats about all I remember of bombadil, but maybe there was more and it got lost somewhere in the 1000 pages of how a rock rolls downhill, and how the dirt feels about the rock rolling over it, and how the sun reflects off the rock as it rolls over the dirt, and the sound made by an occasional fallen dry leave as the rock crushes it and ruins it's day, and reading about it again with the addition of a small shrub when the characters take 3 more steps etc etc.
Still, even I was curious to why he was left out of the movie.
Jackson's biggest flaw was to leave out the most important character in the entire story - Tom Bombadil.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 10:41 AM (V2Yro)
He was THE most important character??
Honestly, it's been so long since I've read these books, and having
been filtered through the movies, I'm not exactly sure what the hell Tom
contributed to the whole thing, other than helping the wee fellows to
survive being consumed almost before their journey got started.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 10:55 AM (hku12)
Thats about all I remember of bombadil, but maybe there was more and it got lost somewhere in the 1000 pages of how a rock rolls downhill, and how the dirt feels about the rock rolling over it, and how the sun reflects off the rock as it rolls over the dirt, and the sound made by an occasional fallen dry leave as the rock crushes it and ruins it's day, and reading about it again with the addition of a small shrub when the characters take 3 more steps etc etc.
Still, even I was curious to why he was left out of the movie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (9Om/r)
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Elsa Lanchester?
Posted by: RobertM at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (Yy8Ag)
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As for "The Hidden Origins of Islam", I reviewed that too: amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RM8RVBPILK03R/
I thought that the two essays by de Premare and Ohlig were the standouts. The rest of them, I either didn't quite understand at the time, or I didn't find helpful.
I thought that the two essays by de Premare and Ohlig were the standouts. The rest of them, I either didn't quite understand at the time, or I didn't find helpful.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (ykYG2)
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HOW did he singlehandedly change fishing, exactly ?
Not all of fishing, but he was a legit pioneer in big game fishing.
He built Pilar and berthed her in Havana. He sought out the world's leading expert on marlin fishing, who was the world's leading expert because he had caught seven of them in his life.
Within two years Hemingway was catching seventy per season. He learned about migrations and tactics and gear and all sorts of things that hadn't been done before.
Also, he and Zane Grey (a crappy, bad, not good author) were founders of IGFA.
Not all of fishing, but he was a legit pioneer in big game fishing.
He built Pilar and berthed her in Havana. He sought out the world's leading expert on marlin fishing, who was the world's leading expert because he had caught seven of them in his life.
Within two years Hemingway was catching seventy per season. He learned about migrations and tactics and gear and all sorts of things that hadn't been done before.
Also, he and Zane Grey (a crappy, bad, not good author) were founders of IGFA.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (gd9RK)
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*ahem* "They Shall Not Grow Old"
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (mWzQJ)
Didn't know about that. Maybe he needs to stick to documentaries.
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (mWzQJ)
Didn't know about that. Maybe he needs to stick to documentaries.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:22 AM (H8QX8)
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Also, does anyone know why this site has a problem with VPN's?
Posted by: Happy at January 05, 2020 10:59 AM (GHaZw)
Great and scary book!
And VPNs are used by spammers and trolls, so the software is very suspicious of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (wYseH)
Depends on the IP address, I guess. I use a VPN and it works fine with mu.nu. Although occasionally it will give me an IP address that pixy has banned, but then I just go out and grab a different one.
Posted by: Happy at January 05, 2020 10:59 AM (GHaZw)
Great and scary book!
And VPNs are used by spammers and trolls, so the software is very suspicious of them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 11:11 AM (wYseH)
Depends on the IP address, I guess. I use a VPN and it works fine with mu.nu. Although occasionally it will give me an IP address that pixy has banned, but then I just go out and grab a different one.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:22 AM (AWstk)
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I have it on good authority that Sir Francis Drake and Scrooge McDuck were both members of The Dead Poultry Society.
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:22 AM (m45I2)
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Women need an a*hole radar, what do men need ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (AWstk)
Crazy radar. Evil radar.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:09 AM (NWiLs)
I kinda like hogmartin's needy manipulator early warning systems idea. I think it has potential.
BurtTC, what is BPD ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 10:27 AM (zr5Kq)
Gold-digger radar?
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:05 AM (AWstk)
Crazy radar. Evil radar.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:09 AM (NWiLs)
I kinda like hogmartin's needy manipulator early warning systems idea. I think it has potential.
BurtTC, what is BPD ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:22 AM (zr5Kq)
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Oregon Moose, Typical of the older bookstores,with the requisite torn bottom step carpet and moldy mouse shit aroma in the stacks.
Roberts Bork shop you say?
WHO DIS? My HOT home librarian ready to read me a BED BOUNCY story...scary!!!! Unbridled passion indeedy.
Roberts Bork shop you say?
WHO DIS? My HOT home librarian ready to read me a BED BOUNCY story...scary!!!! Unbridled passion indeedy.
Posted by: saf at January 05, 2020 11:22 AM (5IHGB)
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What's a Hemingway?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
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"King Kong" was Jackson's best film. 30 minutes too long, but otherwise pretty good.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Oh my.
Teenage ape, falls for chick that's not that hot. Goes on rampage.
With bad CGI.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Oh my.
Teenage ape, falls for chick that's not that hot. Goes on rampage.
With bad CGI.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)
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BurtTC, what is BPD ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:22 AM (zr5Kq)
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Bureau of Paranormal Defense
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:22 AM (zr5Kq)
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Bureau of Paranormal Defense
Posted by: Captain Obvious at January 05, 2020 11:24 AM (mWzQJ)
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The fatal flaw when people asses the Civil War is the presumption that
the Confederacy was doomed to fail and the USA was the inevitable
winner. That argument assumes that the USA would be determined to
persevere and all the votes would come out right. Britain gave up
against American rebels in a war that was much more of a mis match.
The CSA had to be conquered, all the USA had to do it say enough is enough.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (n13/j)
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Obviously the will to fight was key for both sides, including the South.
Much is made of Confederate elan, but I notice very few accounts talk about the Wide Awakes and how the Northern states were *also* mobilizing during the Secession Winter.
Bruce Catton's Centennial History does a great job of noting that the South (and many of their apologists) spectacularly misread the war fever that was gripping the north. For decades they'd watched the Southern Establishment dictate national policy, ignoring the needs of more populous north.
That's why I'm sick to death of alt-right or dissident right types saying the North was run by bankers and globalists.
Er, no, the globalists were the South to treated labor as just another commodity. The original Republicans wanted decent wages, limits on immigration and tariffs on cheap imports that hurt domestic industry.
Also infrastructure to help move crops and product cheaply to market. The South hated all of this, wanting only to export their cash crop.
Catton lays that out as well. The series is weird, because it's mostly about the early war. Once it becomes clear that the North has gained the upper hand, Catton sort of glosses over the rest because it's not that important.
The fatal flaw when people asses the Civil War is the presumption that
the Confederacy was doomed to fail and the USA was the inevitable
winner. That argument assumes that the USA would be determined to
persevere and all the votes would come out right. Britain gave up
against American rebels in a war that was much more of a mis match.
The CSA had to be conquered, all the USA had to do it say enough is enough.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (n13/j)
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Obviously the will to fight was key for both sides, including the South.
Much is made of Confederate elan, but I notice very few accounts talk about the Wide Awakes and how the Northern states were *also* mobilizing during the Secession Winter.
Bruce Catton's Centennial History does a great job of noting that the South (and many of their apologists) spectacularly misread the war fever that was gripping the north. For decades they'd watched the Southern Establishment dictate national policy, ignoring the needs of more populous north.
That's why I'm sick to death of alt-right or dissident right types saying the North was run by bankers and globalists.
Er, no, the globalists were the South to treated labor as just another commodity. The original Republicans wanted decent wages, limits on immigration and tariffs on cheap imports that hurt domestic industry.
Also infrastructure to help move crops and product cheaply to market. The South hated all of this, wanting only to export their cash crop.
Catton lays that out as well. The series is weird, because it's mostly about the early war. Once it becomes clear that the North has gained the upper hand, Catton sort of glosses over the rest because it's not that important.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:25 AM (cfSRQ)
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This crap where everyone can attack us and be consistent with "international law" while any attempt to retaliate is "illegal" is total nonsense. We should not be playing cops and robbers, but I do like the idea of decimating Iran. Always wish Reagan would have done it.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (U7k5w)
since this is coming up - from reading through a lot of lines from different sources, I believe this vote in the Iraqi Parliament was planned weeks ago, when it became clear they could not agree on a new PM after the old one resigned. (he's still caretaker, but he turned a blind eye when the Iranian backed militias killed hundreds of protesters in Baghdad) I believe the plan has always been for the Iraqi Parliament to tell us to leave, followed by general attacks on US allies, US bases, and the US Embassy. After this began, Iranian Revolutionary Guard troops were going to be "invited" into Baghdad by the Militias, and Iran would complete it's takeover of the Iraqi Government.
This is why Soleimani flew into Baghdad - this is the process he was going to oversee. Trump threw a last minute monkey wrench into all of these plans, and now we will see how it plays out.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (U7k5w)
since this is coming up - from reading through a lot of lines from different sources, I believe this vote in the Iraqi Parliament was planned weeks ago, when it became clear they could not agree on a new PM after the old one resigned. (he's still caretaker, but he turned a blind eye when the Iranian backed militias killed hundreds of protesters in Baghdad) I believe the plan has always been for the Iraqi Parliament to tell us to leave, followed by general attacks on US allies, US bases, and the US Embassy. After this began, Iranian Revolutionary Guard troops were going to be "invited" into Baghdad by the Militias, and Iran would complete it's takeover of the Iraqi Government.
This is why Soleimani flew into Baghdad - this is the process he was going to oversee. Trump threw a last minute monkey wrench into all of these plans, and now we will see how it plays out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:25 AM (V2Yro)
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What's a Hemingway?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
An Ezra Pound?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
An Ezra Pound?
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (n13/j)
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I'm just finishing off "The Oral History of Linda Lovelace" spoiler alert she was choked by the Gardener.
I'm just finishing off "The Oral History of Linda Lovelace" spoiler alert she was choked by the Gardener.
Posted by: saf at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (5IHGB)
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HOW did he singlehandedly change fishing, exactly ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)
The Bandersnatch explains...
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)
The Bandersnatch explains...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (wYseH)
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BPD to me is bronchopulmonary dysplasia.
Just one of the many health problems of the baby in Fort Worth that is the center of the "withdraw from life support" dispute.
Just one of the many health problems of the baby in Fort Worth that is the center of the "withdraw from life support" dispute.
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (m45I2)
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Still, even I was curious to why he was left out of the movie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (9Om/r)
It's my understanding that Tom Bombadil was a recurring character in bedtime stories that JRRT made up for his children, and predated the writing of LOTR. Tolkien found a way to insert Bombadil into the story as a favor to his kids. So he's really not a significant part of the narrative.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (9Om/r)
It's my understanding that Tom Bombadil was a recurring character in bedtime stories that JRRT made up for his children, and predated the writing of LOTR. Tolkien found a way to insert Bombadil into the story as a favor to his kids. So he's really not a significant part of the narrative.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (LxWV7)
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I've written A Short History of the World.
"For the first dozen billion years everything was OK. Then man came along. And that's when the trouble started."
"For the first dozen billion years everything was OK. Then man came along. And that's when the trouble started."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)
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Borderline Personality Disorder.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:27 AM (NWiLs)
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337 What's a Hemingway?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
150, give or take?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
150, give or take?
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:27 AM (V2Yro)
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What's a Hemingway?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
About a 190lbs. ( someone had to finish the joke)
On that topic Is a Henway a real thing or a made up word for the Marx brothers joke?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
About a 190lbs. ( someone had to finish the joke)
On that topic Is a Henway a real thing or a made up word for the Marx brothers joke?
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 11:27 AM (2DOZq)
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What's a Hemingway?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
5 pounds including the urn.
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (m45I2)
5 pounds including the urn.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (9Om/r)
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338 "King Kong" was Jackson's best film. 30 minutes too long, but otherwise pretty good.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Sorry, no, that's a 90 minute story that Jackson managed to stretch out to, what, 3 hours? I hate movie directors when they get too big to edit their wretched excess.
I think Jackson's best movie is "Heavenly Creatures."
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (H8QX
Sorry, no, that's a 90 minute story that Jackson managed to stretch out to, what, 3 hours? I hate movie directors when they get too big to edit their wretched excess.
I think Jackson's best movie is "Heavenly Creatures."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (AWstk)
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Still, even I was curious to why he was left out of the movie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (9Om/r)
He was left out because he was too much of wild card. The narrative demands of film are brutal. If you're establishing the ring as a supremely seductive tool of the enemy, introducing a whimsical woodsy character out of nowhere who has no interest in and is unaffected by the ring -- and moreover never appears again in the story -- is a subversive and pointless risk. It can work in a book for all the reasons a book is not a film.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (9Om/r)
He was left out because he was too much of wild card. The narrative demands of film are brutal. If you're establishing the ring as a supremely seductive tool of the enemy, introducing a whimsical woodsy character out of nowhere who has no interest in and is unaffected by the ring -- and moreover never appears again in the story -- is a subversive and pointless risk. It can work in a book for all the reasons a book is not a film.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (H8QX8)
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Borderline Personality Disorder ?
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (arJlL)
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This is why Soleimani flew into Baghdad - this is the process he was going to oversee. Trump threw a last minute monkey wrench into all of these plans, and now we will see how it plays out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:25 AM (V2Yro)
If we get out, we need to leave financially, and no more fucking refugees.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:25 AM (V2Yro)
If we get out, we need to leave financially, and no more fucking refugees.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:29 AM (U7k5w)
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ok.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:29 AM (zr5Kq)
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Anne Cleeland is serializing a Regency adventure, The Spanish Mask, one chapter per week at annecleeland.com until the book is complete--43 weeks.
(free of charge.)
I know many of the lurkers like Regency stories.
(free of charge.)
I know many of the lurkers like Regency stories.
Posted by: artemis at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (AwPyG)
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I did some YA fantasy reading over the holidays
read book 3 of Holly Blacks Folk of the Air (title The Queen of Nothing) - YA but I enjoyed it's darkness and introspection
also read The Lost Causes of Bleak Creek at KTE's request (the authors are her favorite yootoobers) - YA horror nostalgia, a bit slow at first, some cool ideas
read book 3 of Holly Blacks Folk of the Air (title The Queen of Nothing) - YA but I enjoyed it's darkness and introspection
also read The Lost Causes of Bleak Creek at KTE's request (the authors are her favorite yootoobers) - YA horror nostalgia, a bit slow at first, some cool ideas
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (G546f)
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305
Britain gave up against American rebels in a war that was much more of a mis match.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (n13/j)
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I don't buy that. There are 2 problems.
1. While it was possible - at least conceivable - that a military victory could be won, a political victory was out of the question. They'd just have a big rebellious section of the empire.
2. More important, by the time they conceded our independence, it had turned into a world war. Even after they started negotiating with us, war continued with our allies. And could have gone much worse for Britain. Their key victory at the Saintes came over 6 months after Yorktown.
Britain gave up against American rebels in a war that was much more of a mis match.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (n13/j)
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I don't buy that. There are 2 problems.
1. While it was possible - at least conceivable - that a military victory could be won, a political victory was out of the question. They'd just have a big rebellious section of the empire.
2. More important, by the time they conceded our independence, it had turned into a world war. Even after they started negotiating with us, war continued with our allies. And could have gone much worse for Britain. Their key victory at the Saintes came over 6 months after Yorktown.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (ZbwAu)
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I would say a BPD radar, but you don't really need a radar for that. Wait about a week, after she convinces you she's the "perfect" woman, she'll let you know she's not.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)
Sometimes they can keep it under wraps for a lot longer than a week. Those are the really dangerous ones.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (NWiLs)
It's not really fair for me to say, but I kinda think it's possible to see it quite early, if one knows where to look.
The problem is, most men won't be looking for it, and the hooks will have been gotten in before they notice.
One of the most important points I would make about the Borderlines though (and it's not always women, although mental health professionals often don't see it in men because their idiots who don't know what they're doing), is that no matter how miserable she's making your life, her life is exponentially more miserable. That's why she does what she does. Because she has no clue how to interact with people, and if she did, she sure as hell wouldn't act this way.
So it's not really evil, even if it looks like it is to the person who has to deal with her.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)
Sometimes they can keep it under wraps for a lot longer than a week. Those are the really dangerous ones.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:17 AM (NWiLs)
It's not really fair for me to say, but I kinda think it's possible to see it quite early, if one knows where to look.
The problem is, most men won't be looking for it, and the hooks will have been gotten in before they notice.
One of the most important points I would make about the Borderlines though (and it's not always women, although mental health professionals often don't see it in men because their idiots who don't know what they're doing), is that no matter how miserable she's making your life, her life is exponentially more miserable. That's why she does what she does. Because she has no clue how to interact with people, and if she did, she sure as hell wouldn't act this way.
So it's not really evil, even if it looks like it is to the person who has to deal with her.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)
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I thought it was Big Penis Detector.......
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (arJlL
Can you buy that on Amazon?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (arJlL
Can you buy that on Amazon?
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (QzF6i)
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346 Still, even I was curious to why he was left out of the movie.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (9Om/r)
Jackson has said in an interview that the reason he left our Bombadil was because that episode doesn't advance the story at all.
And he's right.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:21 AM (9Om/r)
Jackson has said in an interview that the reason he left our Bombadil was because that episode doesn't advance the story at all.
And he's right.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:31 AM (AWstk)
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A hemingway stole my childhood.
Posted by: Greta Thunberg, meatball-scented Druid philosopher at January 05, 2020 11:31 AM (EgshT)
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I thought it was Big Penis Detector.......
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (arJlL)
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Also known as Anderson Cooper.
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (arJlL)
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Also known as Anderson Cooper.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:31 AM (cfSRQ)
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347 I've written A Short History of the World.
"For the first dozen billion years everything was OK. Then man came along. And that's when the trouble started."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)
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I've always figured that things really started to go into the shitter at the Cambrian Explosion.
"For the first dozen billion years everything was OK. Then man came along. And that's when the trouble started."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)
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I've always figured that things really started to go into the shitter at the Cambrian Explosion.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (XVuno)
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oh, and here is a major rabbithole (gravity well?) for anyone interested in writing hard SF -
projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/
It's got everything: how to calculate Hohmann transit windows, how to bend the laws of physics, what the conditions are like on the planets; even what other stories have been written already in any given setting.
For instance I did not know that George O Smith wrote a whole thirteen stories set in the L4 point preceding Venus on its year around the Sun. In the 1940s. About fixing the vacuum-tubes that ran the computer on that station. (Summoning Eris to the LOL courtesy phone!)
Also pretty much every SF author has had a hand in writing a Sargasso Sea story in space, since 1931 at least. So if that's your great idea, look into how to do that different.
projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/
It's got everything: how to calculate Hohmann transit windows, how to bend the laws of physics, what the conditions are like on the planets; even what other stories have been written already in any given setting.
For instance I did not know that George O Smith wrote a whole thirteen stories set in the L4 point preceding Venus on its year around the Sun. In the 1940s. About fixing the vacuum-tubes that ran the computer on that station. (Summoning Eris to the LOL courtesy phone!)
Also pretty much every SF author has had a hand in writing a Sargasso Sea story in space, since 1931 at least. So if that's your great idea, look into how to do that different.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (ykYG2)
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Teenage ape, falls for chick that's not that hot. Goes on rampage.
With bad CGI.
Which is why the one true King Kong is the 1976 King Kong. Claymation, political cynicism (the evil oil company is Petrox, if you're 29 you remember Pet Rocks), and a very young Jessica Lange's tits.
With bad CGI.
Which is why the one true King Kong is the 1976 King Kong. Claymation, political cynicism (the evil oil company is Petrox, if you're 29 you remember Pet Rocks), and a very young Jessica Lange's tits.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Sandra Flook at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (EgshT)
Posted by: Aviator at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (2cuLk)
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I thought it was Big Penis Detector.......
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (arJlL
Can you buy that on Amazon?
Posted by: sharon
Don't wanna take anyone's word for it, huh ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (arJlL
Can you buy that on Amazon?
Posted by: sharon
Don't wanna take anyone's word for it, huh ?
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (arJlL)
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Cicero, Little Black Sambo is actually a "Tiger Grandma" story (Little Red Riding Hood in Europe), there is a very similar one in Korean mythology where a series of tigers accost a grandmother bringing back millet pancakes from threshing and grinding she had to do to get food for her grandchildren. In each case the tiger wants something -- in the Korean version it is something to eat -- and the tiger keeps coming back as she goes on her voyage home, taking her arms and legs until all she can do is roll, and then eats her all up. Then it turns into a Little Red Riding Hood story (no, sweethearts, my voice is rough from the dust from threshing, let me in) where eventually the tiger chases the kids out of the house when they let the tiger in, and then up a tree, where the kids pour sesame oil on the trunk to keep the tiger from climbing after them.
Sambo gets hit up for his clothes directly and eventually climbs a tree, and then gets the tigers to fight and chase each other until they melt into ghee for his pancakes.
Anyhow, the basic unifying element is pancakes.
Sambo gets hit up for his clothes directly and eventually climbs a tree, and then gets the tigers to fight and chase each other until they melt into ghee for his pancakes.
Anyhow, the basic unifying element is pancakes.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (1glZx)
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Jackson has said in an interview that the reason he left our Bombadil was because that episode doesn't advance the story at all.
And he's right.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:31 AM (AWstk)
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Also, he needed space for more dumb dwarf jokes and Tomb Raider sequences.
And he's right.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:31 AM (AWstk)
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Also, he needed space for more dumb dwarf jokes and Tomb Raider sequences.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (cfSRQ)
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Boulder: I just refreshed my browser to type a recommendation for Atomic Rockets, and you beat me to it!
Heartily seconded recommendation!
Heartily seconded recommendation!
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (urZJh)
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358 Anne Cleeland is serializing a Regency adventure, The Spanish Mask, one chapter per week at annecleeland.com until the book is complete--43 weeks.
(free of charge.)
I know many of the lurkers like Regency stories.
Posted by: artemis at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (AwPyG)
Dang it, I was going to include this in the content today, but forgot.
Next week. I swears!
(free of charge.)
I know many of the lurkers like Regency stories.
Posted by: artemis at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (AwPyG)
Dang it, I was going to include this in the content today, but forgot.
Next week. I swears!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (AWstk)
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Jackson has said in an interview that the reason he left our Bombadil was because that episode doesn't advance the story at all.
And he's right.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:31 AM (AWstk)
It would have been nice to throw a bone to the people that wanted to take a 357 mag to the book after suffering through 1000 pages of describing nature. lol
And he's right.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:31 AM (AWstk)
It would have been nice to throw a bone to the people that wanted to take a 357 mag to the book after suffering through 1000 pages of describing nature. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:34 AM (9Om/r)
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It's my understanding that Tom Bombadil was a recurring character in bedtime stories that JRRT made up for his children, and predated the writing of LOTR. Tolkien found a way to insert Bombadil into the story as a favor to his kids. So he's really not a significant part of the narrative.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (LxWV7)
Someone always has to rain on my parade! Tom Bombadil is the Chauncy Gardener of LoTR - he's whatever you want him to be.
my pet theory is Aule the Smith, btw, gone on walkabout.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (LxWV7)
Someone always has to rain on my parade! Tom Bombadil is the Chauncy Gardener of LoTR - he's whatever you want him to be.
my pet theory is Aule the Smith, btw, gone on walkabout.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 11:34 AM (V2Yro)
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Anyhow, the basic unifying element is pancakes.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (1glZx)
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As is true in so much of life.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (1glZx)
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As is true in so much of life.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:34 AM (XVuno)
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Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (ZbwAu)
King George wanted to do a 'surge' which would have broken the Revolutionaries but was voted down in Parliament thank god. Again the Tory population was big enough that a British victory would have resulted in just one huge ' Canada ' IMHO.
King George wanted to do a 'surge' which would have broken the Revolutionaries but was voted down in Parliament thank god. Again the Tory population was big enough that a British victory would have resulted in just one huge ' Canada ' IMHO.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 11:34 AM (2DOZq)
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347 I've written A Short History of the World.
"For the first dozen billion years everything was OK. Thenman OrangeManBad came along. And that's when the trouble started."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)
"For the first dozen billion years everything was OK. Then
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:26 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at January 05, 2020 11:34 AM (G546f)
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I've always figured that things really started to go into the shitter at the Cambrian Explosion.
Cyanobacteria, man. "Blue Green Algae". Poisoned the whole planet and made it into an Enceladus-tier iceball.
Oxygen. Not even once.
Cyanobacteria, man. "Blue Green Algae". Poisoned the whole planet and made it into an Enceladus-tier iceball.
Oxygen. Not even once.
Posted by: the archaea at January 05, 2020 11:34 AM (ykYG2)
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It is depressing to see how the all the countries in western and northern Europe have caved to radical islam.
I wonder how Endless Wars, Inc. is going to handle this. They need Europe itself to fight back, because I think they're running low on allies.
I wonder how Endless Wars, Inc. is going to handle this. They need Europe itself to fight back, because I think they're running low on allies.
Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2020 11:34 AM (n6bs1)
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They approved the resolution. Whether we leave or not is up in the air, but why should we give a damn if they're eaten up by their neighbors? Especially if we are technically forbidden to hit back.
This crap where everyone can attack us and be consistent with "international law" while any attempt to retaliate is "illegal" is total nonsense. We should not be playing cops and robbers, but I do like the idea of decimating Iran. Always wish Reagan would have done it.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (U7k5w)
Too many shia puppets in Iraqi parliament who are venting their anger at Salami's demise, standing in the way of Iraq's future.
They approved the resolution. Whether we leave or not is up in the air, but why should we give a damn if they're eaten up by their neighbors? Especially if we are technically forbidden to hit back.
This crap where everyone can attack us and be consistent with "international law" while any attempt to retaliate is "illegal" is total nonsense. We should not be playing cops and robbers, but I do like the idea of decimating Iran. Always wish Reagan would have done it.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:20 AM (U7k5w)
Too many shia puppets in Iraqi parliament who are venting their anger at Salami's demise, standing in the way of Iraq's future.
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:35 AM (zr5Kq)
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Which is why the one true King Kong is the 1976 King Kong. Claymation, political cynicism (the evil oil company is Petrox, if you're 29 you remember Pet Rocks), and a very young Jessica Lange's tits.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (gd9RK)
If your King Kong doesn't have Fay Wray in it, it's a cheap ripoff.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (gd9RK)
If your King Kong doesn't have Fay Wray in it, it's a cheap ripoff.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:35 AM (LxWV7)
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With bad CGI.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)
I thought the CGI was great, breakthrough at the time. And the movie had heart. It's a simple story, and Jackson kept it simple. His characterizations of the impresario of the deal and also the writer caught up in the drama were better than the original. Too long, for sure, but it engages and moves an audience.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)
I thought the CGI was great, breakthrough at the time. And the movie had heart. It's a simple story, and Jackson kept it simple. His characterizations of the impresario of the deal and also the writer caught up in the drama were better than the original. Too long, for sure, but it engages and moves an audience.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:35 AM (H8QX8)
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Also, he needed space for more dumb dwarf jokes and Tomb Raider sequences.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (cfSRQ)
I generally enjoyed the movies, but my main beef with Jackson was how he screwed around with the characters. Chief among these is turning Gimli into comedy relief.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (cfSRQ)
I generally enjoyed the movies, but my main beef with Jackson was how he screwed around with the characters. Chief among these is turning Gimli into comedy relief.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:36 AM (AWstk)
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Can we get the UN to kick us out?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)
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I think Jackson's best movie is "Heavenly Creatures."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (AWstk)
I saw maybe half of that film, got interested in the story, then bought the DVD... and haven't watched it.
I think mostly because the most interesting aspects to me are the events that happened AFTER the murder. I'm not sure I really care all that much who the girls were before.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:28 AM (AWstk)
I saw maybe half of that film, got interested in the story, then bought the DVD... and haven't watched it.
I think mostly because the most interesting aspects to me are the events that happened AFTER the murder. I'm not sure I really care all that much who the girls were before.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)
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Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:30 AM (ZbwAu)
my point was that when the war started, most of the world would have bet on the Brits. The CSA and USA had that surprising victory less than a century prior on their minds. What happened happened but many military historians have issues with the idea that USA victory was inevitable. Most high school students are taught that USA victory was inevitable because A) they were the progressive good guys and B) they were industrial.
My only point here is that a CSA victory was not only possible, it was more likely than a complete defeat. The USA paid a heavy price to win that victory and there were many times they thought they would lose. In the end, it can only be argued as a what if since we know what did happen.
my point was that when the war started, most of the world would have bet on the Brits. The CSA and USA had that surprising victory less than a century prior on their minds. What happened happened but many military historians have issues with the idea that USA victory was inevitable. Most high school students are taught that USA victory was inevitable because A) they were the progressive good guys and B) they were industrial.
My only point here is that a CSA victory was not only possible, it was more likely than a complete defeat. The USA paid a heavy price to win that victory and there were many times they thought they would lose. In the end, it can only be argued as a what if since we know what did happen.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (n13/j)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (PkVlr)
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Late to the thread. I got nearly all of the books you morons recommended to me before Christmas. Just starting master and commander. 66 pages in and I'm hooked. Have to keep my phone nearby to search the nautical terms.sometimes....but itsnjust the book I was looking for. Very detailed.about sailing ships. Thanks to all who helped. Posted.from mikey board on phone. Sorry for poor spelling and punctuation
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 05, 2020 11:38 AM (9dzlp)
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It's interesting to consider what Peter Jackson might have done if Disney had given him the Star Wars sequels rather than J.J. Abrams or that idiot Rian Johnson. Out of all the directors I can think of it is Jackson who seems to have a gift for telling engrossing stories in the science fantasy genre.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:38 AM (XVuno)
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BTH, George O Smith's Venus Equilateral is a must read for ham radio.
He also built a world around the development of matter transformation and posited the question about what was value when there is no scarcity at all?
He also built a world around the development of matter transformation and posited the question about what was value when there is no scarcity at all?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 05, 2020 11:39 AM (1glZx)
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387 Can we get the UN to kick us out?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)
They're the ones that need the kick. Then sell the land to a housing developer.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)
They're the ones that need the kick. Then sell the land to a housing developer.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:39 AM (U7k5w)
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Also, he needed space for more dumb dwarf jokes and Tomb Raider sequences.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (cfSRQ)
Wasn't the bombadil episode the very first time the ring wraiths make their appearance? So did they blow off the introduction of one scary mofo and the dude who pretty much saved the quest from dying in it's infancy? No room at the Inn for him it seems.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 11:33 AM (cfSRQ)
Wasn't the bombadil episode the very first time the ring wraiths make their appearance? So did they blow off the introduction of one scary mofo and the dude who pretty much saved the quest from dying in it's infancy? No room at the Inn for him it seems.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:39 AM (9Om/r)
396
King Kong
Went to Hong Kong
To play ping pong
With his ding dong
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (PkVlr)
I wonder if kids knows what it means when you say ' It's on like Donkey Kong! '
Went to Hong Kong
To play ping pong
With his ding dong
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (PkVlr)
I wonder if kids knows what it means when you say ' It's on like Donkey Kong! '
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 11:40 AM (2DOZq)
397
Young Adult Fantasy is superior to adult Fantasy these days because (1) the author tends to be trying to write for an actual audience, and not for green-haired and bloated SJWs in Manhattan (2) nobody gets raped. Seriously I am tired of reading about rape and sodomy in my escapist fiction. It's disgusting.
Looking at you in particular, Peter Brett; you're why I've quit the whole adult SF/F aisle at Barnes and Noble.
I've seen "queen of nothing" showcased in the stands outside the Young Adult aisle. No Mary-Sue'ing, I hope? Mary Sue'ing *is* a problem in YA.
Looking at you in particular, Peter Brett; you're why I've quit the whole adult SF/F aisle at Barnes and Noble.
I've seen "queen of nothing" showcased in the stands outside the Young Adult aisle. No Mary-Sue'ing, I hope? Mary Sue'ing *is* a problem in YA.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (ykYG2)
398
Can we get the UN to kick us out?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)
If I have one complaint about Two Scoops is that he didn't evict those turds on Day 1. Although he did use it as the Nikki Haley rehab project but I'm guessing there were other opportunities for that.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 11:36 AM (+y/Ru)
If I have one complaint about Two Scoops is that he didn't evict those turds on Day 1. Although he did use it as the Nikki Haley rehab project but I'm guessing there were other opportunities for that.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (y7DUB)
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To tie in with the ONT talk of the SR-71, there is a very good behind the scenes peek book on this trailblazing aircraft.
SR-71 Blackbird by Paul F. Crickmore.
Pentel pens were banned on the production line because a line drawn by one of these pens would eat a hole in the titanium in 12 hours.
Before EGR, engine temps were measured by something called TIT.
Each plane was painted in iron ball black paint.
SR-71 Blackbird by Paul F. Crickmore.
Pentel pens were banned on the production line because a line drawn by one of these pens would eat a hole in the titanium in 12 hours.
Before EGR, engine temps were measured by something called TIT.
Each plane was painted in iron ball black paint.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (8jYQE)
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With bad CGI.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)
I thought the CGI was great, breakthrough at the time. And the movie had heart. It's a simple story, and Jackson kept it simple. His characterizations of the impresario of the deal and also the writer caught up in the drama were better than the original. Too long, for sure, but it engages and moves an audience.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:35 AM (H8QX
If by CGI you mean the motion capture they did with Andy Serkis, then sure.
But the scenes on the island, it looks about as realistic as an episode of Blue's Clues, with Steve talking to his various household items.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:23 AM (hku12)
I thought the CGI was great, breakthrough at the time. And the movie had heart. It's a simple story, and Jackson kept it simple. His characterizations of the impresario of the deal and also the writer caught up in the drama were better than the original. Too long, for sure, but it engages and moves an audience.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:35 AM (H8QX
If by CGI you mean the motion capture they did with Andy Serkis, then sure.
But the scenes on the island, it looks about as realistic as an episode of Blue's Clues, with Steve talking to his various household items.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (hku12)
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390 King Kong
Went to Hong Kong
To play ping pong
With his ding dong
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (PkVlr)
You come up with that all on your own?
Went to Hong Kong
To play ping pong
With his ding dong
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (PkVlr)
You come up with that all on your own?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (AWstk)
403
Lincoln City was the most tempting relocation city I've seen on the Oregon Coast.
I'm up for a MoMe there this year.
Especially since there's a good used book store there.
I'm up for a MoMe there this year.
Especially since there's a good used book store there.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (d1uFV)
404
Wasn't the bombadil episode the very first time the ring wraiths make their appearance? So did they blow off the introduction of one scary mofo and the dude who pretty much saved the quest from dying in it's infancy? No room at the Inn for him it seems.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:39 AM (9Om/r)
He saved them from the barrow-wights and then sent them to Bree, I think.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:39 AM (9Om/r)
He saved them from the barrow-wights and then sent them to Bree, I think.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (t+qrx)
405
You come up with that all on your own?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (NWiLs)
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Even Homer had to start somewhere.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (NWiLs)
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Even Homer had to start somewhere.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (XVuno)
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (m45I2)
407
NO, no, NO ! UN stays. We need to keep an eye on them. All of them. Where are they gonna go ? Russia ? China ??
Posted by: runner at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (zr5Kq)
408
Wasn't the bombadil episode the very first time the ring wraiths make their appearance? So did they blow off the introduction of one scary mofo and the dude who pretty much saved the quest from dying in it's infancy? No room at the Inn for him it seems.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:39 AM (9Om/r)
No, the hobbits were basically chased out of the Shire by the ringwraiths.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 11:39 AM (9Om/r)
No, the hobbits were basically chased out of the Shire by the ringwraiths.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (AWstk)
409
King Kong
Went to Hong Kong
To play ping pong
With his ding dong
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (PkVlr)
You come up with that all on your own?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Nah, that one's older than Vic !
Went to Hong Kong
To play ping pong
With his ding dong
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (PkVlr)
You come up with that all on your own?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Nah, that one's older than Vic !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (arJlL)
410
Which is why the one true King Kong is the 1976 King Kong. Claymation, political cynicism (the evil oil company is Petrox, if you're 29 you remember Pet Rocks), and a very young Jessica Lange's tits.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (gd9RK)
If your King Kong doesn't have Fay Wray in it, it's a cheap ripoff.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:35 AM (LxWV7)
Now, if... IF one could make a King Kong, with Fay Wray sporting Jessica Lange's tits, that would be a perfect movie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 11:32 AM (gd9RK)
If your King Kong doesn't have Fay Wray in it, it's a cheap ripoff.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:35 AM (LxWV7)
Now, if... IF one could make a King Kong, with Fay Wray sporting Jessica Lange's tits, that would be a perfect movie.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (hku12)
411
How many red state residents would risk all to keep California in the union today? It was a time and place thing that can't be recreated.
How many red state residents would risk all to keep California in the union today? It was a time and place thing that can't be recreated.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (n13/j)
412
1. I agree that a CSA victory was possible. I'm a total skeptic about "inevitability" in war - or most of history.
2. The problem the Brits faced was that this time - unlike the preceding and succeeding wars, they were unable to bottle up the French fleet. (And Spanish and Dutch, for that matter.)
Part of the problem was manpower; they'd already mobilized lots of smaller ships (50 guns and down) for the war against us. So they were unable to match, for once, the French mobilization of their battle fleet. And that was the Prime Directive for all British wars against France.
Given the other powers involved, it's a wonder the Brits came out of it as well as they did. They even picked up some stuff in the ROTW.
2. The problem the Brits faced was that this time - unlike the preceding and succeeding wars, they were unable to bottle up the French fleet. (And Spanish and Dutch, for that matter.)
Part of the problem was manpower; they'd already mobilized lots of smaller ships (50 guns and down) for the war against us. So they were unable to match, for once, the French mobilization of their battle fleet. And that was the Prime Directive for all British wars against France.
Given the other powers involved, it's a wonder the Brits came out of it as well as they did. They even picked up some stuff in the ROTW.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (ZbwAu)
413
Oregon is at the top of the slide that California is going down. And I'm not talking about geology. Sure, the rest of the state can counter the lunacy from Portland . . . but how long will that last? Once there's a Democrat political machine solidly in power, it's Venezuela time, just like California, just like NYC, just like Detroit . . .
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (urZJh)
414
Nah, that one's older than Vic !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (arJlL)
Ah, the classics...
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (arJlL)
Ah, the classics...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:45 AM (NWiLs)
415
I'm surprised Germany said the strike was justified.
Posted by: Wut at January 05, 2020 11:45 AM (NSFCQ)
416
So, another Kurt Cobain?
What? Too soon?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (m45I2
Really? I thought Cobain was well hung.
What? Too soon?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (m45I2
Really? I thought Cobain was well hung.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:45 AM (AWstk)
417
411
How many red state residents would risk all to keep California in the union today? It was a time and place thing that can't be recreated.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (n13/j)
Maybe to keep the real estate, but who gives a rat's ass about most of the populace
How many red state residents would risk all to keep California in the union today? It was a time and place thing that can't be recreated.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (n13/j)
Maybe to keep the real estate, but who gives a rat's ass about most of the populace
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:45 AM (U7k5w)
418
Looks like Iraq is going to kick us out.
Posted by: Kurt at January 05, 2020 10:31 AM (U7ujO)
Trump: "I love it when a plan comes together!"
Posted by: Kurt at January 05, 2020 10:31 AM (U7ujO)
Trump: "I love it when a plan comes together!"
Posted by: Tami at January 05, 2020 11:45 AM (cF8AT)
419
Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
420
What's a Hemingway?
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Some guy who was always shooting his mouth off.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (AWstk)
So about 10 pounds lighter than before?
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Some guy who was always shooting his mouth off.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (AWstk)
So about 10 pounds lighter than before?
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (hku12)
421
411
How many red state residents would risk all to keep California in the union today?
..
I'd risk all to get it out.
How many red state residents would risk all to keep California in the union today?
..
I'd risk all to get it out.
Posted by: Wut at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (NSFCQ)
422
^^ Wot's a Hemingway .....
More than a "HUMMING BIRD" Cor,Fwaah Aaawww
Old man and the semen was his best shot at comedy.
More than a "HUMMING BIRD" Cor,Fwaah Aaawww
Old man and the semen was his best shot at comedy.
Posted by: saf at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (5IHGB)
423
Hemingway was no Jeffrey Epstein.
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (m45I2)
424
So, another Kurt Cobain?
What? Too soon?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (m45I2
Really? I thought Cobain was well hung.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:45 AM (AWstk)
No, you're thinking of Ian Curtis.
What? Too soon?
Posted by: Muldoon, Extra Cinnabun Researcher at January 05, 2020 11:43 AM (m45I2
Really? I thought Cobain was well hung.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 11:45 AM (AWstk)
No, you're thinking of Ian Curtis.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (hku12)
425
A lot of writers--like people in Hollywood-- are kind of stupid. I read a lot of non-fiction; most of it is pretty highly rated, and I get it from the library. One night, I was reading something vaguely psychological (not self-help, but few steps away from that) and the author, a woman, started using Hillary Clinton as an example.
Was the book good? It was... OK. It held my interest enough for me to want to finish it. Yet when the author started using Hillary Clinton as a positive example, I shut the book and returned it to the library. If she didn't throw here politics into the book, I would have finished it and maybe even gotten something out of it. But... mentioning Hillary just shut me down.
Was the book good? It was... OK. It held my interest enough for me to want to finish it. Yet when the author started using Hillary Clinton as a positive example, I shut the book and returned it to the library. If she didn't throw here politics into the book, I would have finished it and maybe even gotten something out of it. But... mentioning Hillary just shut me down.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (UmCSQ)
426
NAP time !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (arJlL)
427
Peter Jackson does Star Wars it would be up to 15 episodes and wouldn't even be about any characters in the current series.
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (ZCEU2)
428
I am a lurker and want to go the Lincoln City Mo-Me - how do I get notified?
Posted by: Carl from Oregon at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (sPS//)
429
No one is kicking us out. If we want to leave , we will. If we want to stay , we will.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 11:48 AM (2DOZq)
430
391 Late to the thread. I got nearly all of the books you morons recommended to me before Christmas. Just starting master and commander. 66 pages in and I'm hooked. Have to keep my phone nearby to search the nautical terms.sometimes....but itsnjust the book I was looking for. Very detailed.about sailing ships. Thanks to all who helped. Posted.from mikey board on phone. Sorry for poor spelling and punctuation
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 05, 2020 11:38 AM (9dzlp)
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There's a book called "A Sea of Words" which is an invaluable guide for the Aubreys. But be thankful for Maturin. O'Brian uses him to explain a lot to landlubbers. Often comically. (Over 20 volumes, I don't think he figures out port and starboard.)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 05, 2020 11:38 AM (9dzlp)
________
There's a book called "A Sea of Words" which is an invaluable guide for the Aubreys. But be thankful for Maturin. O'Brian uses him to explain a lot to landlubbers. Often comically. (Over 20 volumes, I don't think he figures out port and starboard.)
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:48 AM (ZbwAu)
431
JT been thinking of that since a hour after I got up
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:49 AM (ZCEU2)
432
"I think Jackson's best movie is "Heavenly Creatures."
Maybe it was his best movie but if so that's rather sad.
Maybe it was his best movie but if so that's rather sad.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:50 AM (H8QX8)
433
/shed the cinnabuns
Posted by: Muldoon at January 05, 2020 11:51 AM (m45I2)
434
Carl from Oregon at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM
Look on side bar, often see messages there or catch up with someone who is going
Look on side bar, often see messages there or catch up with someone who is going
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:51 AM (ZCEU2)
435
Another beautiful day in Houston. Not looking forward to the 90 degree + season.
Posted by: Easy Andy at January 05, 2020 11:51 AM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:51 AM (PkVlr)
437
419 Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
President "The Ayotollah is a man of God" was a stupid son of a bitch.
Having watched all the news of these events in real time and knowing both Iranians and people who worked for the Shah ( I knew more than a few kids who spent years at TAS), Carter was really a naïve agent of negative change. He was a sire of the Islamist problem we have today.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
President "The Ayotollah is a man of God" was a stupid son of a bitch.
Having watched all the news of these events in real time and knowing both Iranians and people who worked for the Shah ( I knew more than a few kids who spent years at TAS), Carter was really a naïve agent of negative change. He was a sire of the Islamist problem we have today.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:52 AM (U7k5w)
438
Shibumi, it's not even a matter of politics.
HRC isn't mentally fit. She's like Captain Ahab chasing his white whale, or she is a vodka-soaked whale in tacky schmatta ramming the USS NeverGonnaBePresident,
I don't know where I'm going with this. But she's no model of positivity.
HRC isn't mentally fit. She's like Captain Ahab chasing his white whale, or she is a vodka-soaked whale in tacky schmatta ramming the USS NeverGonnaBePresident,
I don't know where I'm going with this. But she's no model of positivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 11:53 AM (Dc2NZ)
439
The much earlier point about untranslated French in W&P reminds me, yet again, of how badly education has fallen in a century. Earlier writers routinely just quoted French and Latin, and often other languages, expecting their readers to know them.
Even as easy reading a writer as C S Lewis did, in his professional writings. T S Eliot did; Ronald Knox did, A J Nock does. They just expected you to have learnt to read them
My grandmother was born in the 1890s and knew French, Latin, and German. And she never went to college.
I took French and Latin, and got little more than an unshakable conviction that there were such languages.
Even as easy reading a writer as C S Lewis did, in his professional writings. T S Eliot did; Ronald Knox did, A J Nock does. They just expected you to have learnt to read them
My grandmother was born in the 1890s and knew French, Latin, and German. And she never went to college.
I took French and Latin, and got little more than an unshakable conviction that there were such languages.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:53 AM (ZbwAu)
440
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 11:44 AM (ZbwAu)
yeah, you know more about that era than I do. But I recall the British Empire reached its peak long after they were kicked out of the USA. But like you said, they had particular issues during the American Revolution that ended their chances here.
yeah, you know more about that era than I do. But I recall the British Empire reached its peak long after they were kicked out of the USA. But like you said, they had particular issues during the American Revolution that ended their chances here.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:54 AM (n13/j)
441
436 Sorry to offend you Insom.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:51 AM (PkVlr)
Terribly offended, I am, yes, terribly! Harrumph and good day!
Posted by: Nurse ratched at January 05, 2020 11:51 AM (PkVlr)
Terribly offended, I am, yes, terribly! Harrumph and good day!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 11:54 AM (NWiLs)
442
"I think Jackson's best movie is "Heavenly Creatures."
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Maybe it was his best movie but if so that's rather sad.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:50 AM (H8QX
I would suggest there's a consensus to be had, if people could let go of the "no Tom" problem, and the much less egregious "badarse Arwin" problem, that Fellowship is easily his best film.
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Maybe it was his best movie but if so that's rather sad.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 11:50 AM (H8QX
I would suggest there's a consensus to be had, if people could let go of the "no Tom" problem, and the much less egregious "badarse Arwin" problem, that Fellowship is easily his best film.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:54 AM (hku12)
443
The sidebar article on the prank that Maxine Waters fell for is hilarious. It's too bad that stupid Waters is impervious to humiliation.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:54 AM (XVuno)
444
Shibumi, it's not even a matter of politics.
HRC isn't mentally fit. She's like Captain Ahab chasing his white whale, or she is a vodka-soaked whale in tacky schmatta ramming the USS NeverGonnaBePresident,
I don't know where I'm going with this. But she's no model of positivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 11:53 AM (Dc2NZ)
It's because your betters say so, even though it's documented that she's got a volatile temper and can swear like a sailor.
Just like Michelle Obama looks wonderful in every outfit she wears.
HRC isn't mentally fit. She's like Captain Ahab chasing his white whale, or she is a vodka-soaked whale in tacky schmatta ramming the USS NeverGonnaBePresident,
I don't know where I'm going with this. But she's no model of positivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 11:53 AM (Dc2NZ)
It's because your betters say so, even though it's documented that she's got a volatile temper and can swear like a sailor.
Just like Michelle Obama looks wonderful in every outfit she wears.
Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2020 11:55 AM (pXNaM)
445
I put much of Iran today on the Peanut Farmer. Taking the embassy they should have been hit hard.
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ZCEU2)
446
I am a lurker and want to go the Lincoln City Mo-Me - how do I get notified?
Posted by: Carl from Oregon at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (sPS//)
Well, there's no formal network for notification. Just keep lurking on this thread, and if a MoMee there starts to coalesce as a real possibility, you will read about it here. Once that happens, the MoMee organizer(s) will probably make an e-mail address accessible so you can touch base and RSVP. That is how I hooked up to attend the Vegas MoMee a couple of years ago.
Posted by: Carl from Oregon at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (sPS//)
Well, there's no formal network for notification. Just keep lurking on this thread, and if a MoMee there starts to coalesce as a real possibility, you will read about it here. Once that happens, the MoMee organizer(s) will probably make an e-mail address accessible so you can touch base and RSVP. That is how I hooked up to attend the Vegas MoMee a couple of years ago.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 11:57 AM (LxWV7)
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I don't know where I'm going with this. But she's no model of positivity.
I honestly don't remember what the book was about (maybe it was a semi-scientific look at 'habits') but out of nowhere, the author trotted out Hillary.
I don't want to read about Hillary in any book that isn't about Hillary, Bill or their admin. The author completely turned me off and made me just shut the book. Sort of like how I now unconsciously don't want to see any movie with leftist actors in it.
I honestly don't remember what the book was about (maybe it was a semi-scientific look at 'habits') but out of nowhere, the author trotted out Hillary.
I don't want to read about Hillary in any book that isn't about Hillary, Bill or their admin. The author completely turned me off and made me just shut the book. Sort of like how I now unconsciously don't want to see any movie with leftist actors in it.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 11:57 AM (UmCSQ)
448
Yet when the author started using Hillary Clinton as a positive example, I shut the book and returned it to the library. If she didn't throw here politics into the book, I would have finished it and maybe even gotten something out of it. But... mentioning Hillary just shut me down.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (UmCSQ)
Restricting your market by 63 million people is an interesting strategy for success.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (UmCSQ)
Restricting your market by 63 million people is an interesting strategy for success.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 11:57 AM (y7DUB)
449
446 I am a lurker and want to go the Lincoln City Mo-Me - how do I get notified?
Posted by: Carl from Oregon at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (sPS//)
Well, there's no formal network for notification.
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Tell him about the vetting process!
Posted by: Carl from Oregon at January 05, 2020 11:47 AM (sPS//)
Well, there's no formal network for notification.
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Tell him about the vetting process!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 11:57 AM (XVuno)
450
Shibumi, it's not even a matter of politics.
HRC isn't mentally fit. She's like Captain Ahab chasing his white whale, or she is a vodka-soaked whale in tacky schmatta ramming the USS NeverGonnaBePresident,
I don't know where I'm going with this. But she's no model of positivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 11:53 AM (Dc2NZ)
I think Hillory creates for some people, a blindness that is hard to understand, if you're not a victim of it.
I hate to do it, but it's kinda like that Hilter fella. He was LOVED by a lot of people, and not just the evil nazis. People in this country, and in Britain, were enthralled by him in ways that most of us couldn't possibly fathom, because all we see is the evil.
I have a friend who once was willing to acknowledge that Hillory wasn't a very nice person, but tried to tell me "but at least she's the most experienced person running," (this was early '16).
I was like "what the hell are you talking about?" But to that person who can't see it, you can't MAKE them see it, even if they want to try.
HRC isn't mentally fit. She's like Captain Ahab chasing his white whale, or she is a vodka-soaked whale in tacky schmatta ramming the USS NeverGonnaBePresident,
I don't know where I'm going with this. But she's no model of positivity.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 11:53 AM (Dc2NZ)
I think Hillory creates for some people, a blindness that is hard to understand, if you're not a victim of it.
I hate to do it, but it's kinda like that Hilter fella. He was LOVED by a lot of people, and not just the evil nazis. People in this country, and in Britain, were enthralled by him in ways that most of us couldn't possibly fathom, because all we see is the evil.
I have a friend who once was willing to acknowledge that Hillory wasn't a very nice person, but tried to tell me "but at least she's the most experienced person running," (this was early '16).
I was like "what the hell are you talking about?" But to that person who can't see it, you can't MAKE them see it, even if they want to try.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 11:59 AM (hku12)
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Been a while since I've seen the movies and even longer since I've read teh books, but the most important part of the Bombadil story was that Pippin and Merry got their swords (human-sized daggers) from the barrows, and they were enchanted with ancient spells...which allowed one of them (Merry?) to pierce the Witch-King's foot during the battle against Eowyn.
I always thought it was neat, back in my early teens, how something so minor came around and proved meaningful in the end.
Was that addressed in the movies? I can't remember.
I always thought it was neat, back in my early teens, how something so minor came around and proved meaningful in the end.
Was that addressed in the movies? I can't remember.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 11:59 AM (N4r5a)
452
445 I put much of Iran today on the Peanut Farmer. Taking the embassy they should have been hit hard.
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ZCEU2)
Or after the hostages were released, the mullahs should have been obliterated.
Sadly after such a long time Iran is populated by adults who never knew it pre-Mullahcracy.
Sort of like millennials who never knew a very industrialized US and do not believe in such fairy tales.
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ZCEU2)
Or after the hostages were released, the mullahs should have been obliterated.
Sadly after such a long time Iran is populated by adults who never knew it pre-Mullahcracy.
Sort of like millennials who never knew a very industrialized US and do not believe in such fairy tales.
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 11:59 AM (U7k5w)
453
I'm hoping to move to the DC area late spring. Any chance of a MoMeet there?
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)
454
What happened happened but many military historians
have issues with the idea that USA victory was inevitable.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (n13/j)
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In any simulation of the conflict, the designers *must* find ways to put artificial constraints on the Union or the war is over much faster than happened historically.
If you think of it as a Monte Carlo simulation, the historical result is arguably well outside the bell curve of expected results. I'd say it's on the outer end of the tail. You have to give the South a lot more big breaks to get them to some sort of victory.
And that brings its own problems. If Lincoln loses in 1864 (which is the big hope), the South could still lose before March 1865. And what would Southern "victory" look like with huge amounts of their country destroyed, Union troops holding most of their ports, the plantation economy in shambles, etc.
Where do they get foreign capital to rebuild? What do they rebuild into?
Southern victory had to come early or not at all.
And Union victory at multiple points could have come much earlier than it did.
have issues with the idea that USA victory was inevitable.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 11:37 AM (n13/j)
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In any simulation of the conflict, the designers *must* find ways to put artificial constraints on the Union or the war is over much faster than happened historically.
If you think of it as a Monte Carlo simulation, the historical result is arguably well outside the bell curve of expected results. I'd say it's on the outer end of the tail. You have to give the South a lot more big breaks to get them to some sort of victory.
And that brings its own problems. If Lincoln loses in 1864 (which is the big hope), the South could still lose before March 1865. And what would Southern "victory" look like with huge amounts of their country destroyed, Union troops holding most of their ports, the plantation economy in shambles, etc.
Where do they get foreign capital to rebuild? What do they rebuild into?
Southern victory had to come early or not at all.
And Union victory at multiple points could have come much earlier than it did.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (cfSRQ)
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It's too bad that stupid Waters is impervious to humiliation.
That is the most tragic form of stupidity. Ya gotta figure that it takes at least some smidgen of intelligence to realize you are stupid.
That is the most tragic form of stupidity. Ya gotta figure that it takes at least some smidgen of intelligence to realize you are stupid.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (EgshT)
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Just like Michelle Obama looks wonderful in every outfit she wears.
A few days ago, I stopped by this store that I call "The Chinese Junk Store." It's basically chock full of cheap crap from China.
On the purse wall, there was an entire SECTION of Michelle Obama purses. At least 15 different kinds.
/for the record, I did not buy anything at aforementioned Chinese Junk Store
A few days ago, I stopped by this store that I call "The Chinese Junk Store." It's basically chock full of cheap crap from China.
On the purse wall, there was an entire SECTION of Michelle Obama purses. At least 15 different kinds.
/for the record, I did not buy anything at aforementioned Chinese Junk Store
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 12:01 PM (UmCSQ)
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Young Adult Fantasy is superior to adult Fantasy these days because (1) the author tends to be trying to write for an actual audience, and not for green-haired and bloated SJWs in Manhattan (2) nobody gets raped. Seriously I am tired of reading about rape and sodomy in my escapist fiction. It's disgusting.
Looking at you in particular, Peter Brett; you're why I've quit the whole adult SF/F aisle at Barnes and Noble.
I've seen "queen of nothing" showcased in the stands outside the Young Adult aisle. No Mary-Sue'ing, I hope? Mary Sue'ing *is* a problem in YA.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (ykYG2)
Try MISTBORN, so far it's good and Yes I steer clear of any Female Characters unless the female character use Magic.
Looking at you in particular, Peter Brett; you're why I've quit the whole adult SF/F aisle at Barnes and Noble.
I've seen "queen of nothing" showcased in the stands outside the Young Adult aisle. No Mary-Sue'ing, I hope? Mary Sue'ing *is* a problem in YA.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 11:41 AM (ykYG2)
Try MISTBORN, so far it's good and Yes I steer clear of any Female Characters unless the female character use Magic.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 05, 2020 12:01 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Wut at January 05, 2020 12:01 PM (NSFCQ)
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Tell him about the vetting process!
I was in a college fraternity that prided itself on not doing physical hazing. We did psychological hazing, which we considered morally superior.
Until one kid broke during what was absolutely not called Hell Week and had to go to the psych ward.
Anyway, getting to a MoMe is only slightly worse than that.
I was in a college fraternity that prided itself on not doing physical hazing. We did psychological hazing, which we considered morally superior.
Until one kid broke during what was absolutely not called Hell Week and had to go to the psych ward.
Anyway, getting to a MoMe is only slightly worse than that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 12:02 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 12:02 PM (MTxDQ)
461
Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
When the file came across satan's desk he was like oh christ no, I can't deal with this guy right now.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
When the file came across satan's desk he was like oh christ no, I can't deal with this guy right now.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 05, 2020 12:03 PM (9Om/r)
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Try MISTBORN, so far it's good and Yes I steer clear of any Female Characters unless the female character use Magic.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
Older, but I recall loving The Deeds of Paksennarion by Elizabeth Moon. Yes, some magic, but was pretty gritty.
Moon is now, of course, a complete moron. But I do recall loving that series. Paks was no Rey.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio
Older, but I recall loving The Deeds of Paksennarion by Elizabeth Moon. Yes, some magic, but was pretty gritty.
Moon is now, of course, a complete moron. But I do recall loving that series. Paks was no Rey.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 12:04 PM (N4r5a)
463
I always thought it was neat, back in my early teens, how something so minor came around and proved meaningful in the end.
Was that addressed in the movies? I can't remember.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 11:59 AM (N4r5a)
Presumably not.
That's the thing though, it's become cliche, especially in movies of course, that if you SHOW a gun or knife, or even a seemingly harmless object in the first act, it's going to be used quite importantly in the last.
Was that addressed in the movies? I can't remember.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 11:59 AM (N4r5a)
Presumably not.
That's the thing though, it's become cliche, especially in movies of course, that if you SHOW a gun or knife, or even a seemingly harmless object in the first act, it's going to be used quite importantly in the last.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
464
445 I put much of Iran today on the Peanut Farmer. Taking the embassy they should have been hit hard.
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ZCEU2)
You know what that hapless cretin also cost us? Nicaragua. Somosa may have been a son of a bitch, but he was *our* son of a bitch. Thanks to Peanut-head, that country turned into an America-hating nest of commie cockroaches.
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: Skip at January 05, 2020 11:56 AM (ZCEU2)
You know what that hapless cretin also cost us? Nicaragua. Somosa may have been a son of a bitch, but he was *our* son of a bitch. Thanks to Peanut-head, that country turned into an America-hating nest of commie cockroaches.
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
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About a week before the 2016 election, there was a piece I saw about "the nation's deep love for Hillary Clinton". I don't remember which lib site ran it, and I failed to bookmark it, as I didn't have much hope at the time. (I am Eeyore, after all.) But I've been unable to find it since. It would have been fun to re-read. And even better if the site had comments.
Alas.
Alas.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (ZbwAu)
466
I'm hoping to move to the DC area late spring. Any chance of a MoMeet there?
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)
There have been three of them in the DC area. Don't know yet if one is in the works for this year.
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)
There have been three of them in the DC area. Don't know yet if one is in the works for this year.
Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (pXNaM)
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453 I'm hoping to move to the DC area late spring. Any chance of a MoMeet there?
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)
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Howdy sharon! Sure there's a chance!
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)
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Howdy sharon! Sure there's a chance!
Posted by: Weasel at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (MVjcR)
468
Anyway, getting to a MoMe is only slightly worse than that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 12:02 PM (gd9RK)
You're making MoMe vetting sound so negative. Look, the only adversary you will face during the Encounter is the one you bring with you to that place.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 12:02 PM (gd9RK)
You're making MoMe vetting sound so negative. Look, the only adversary you will face during the Encounter is the one you bring with you to that place.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (t+qrx)
469
I have a friend who once was willing to acknowledge that Hillory wasn't a
very nice person, but tried to tell me "but at least she's the most
experienced person running," (this was early '16).
I was like "what the hell are you talking about?" But to that
person who can't see it, you can't MAKE them see it, even if they want
to try.
In the fall of 2016, I was at a convention, having dinner with the people at the magazine I do regular work for. They are in "New York" and some are "gay men." Well, the conversation turned to politics and their head sales guy, who was sitting next to me, proclaimed that Hillary was the most qualified person ever to run for office.
I grabbed my water, and started chewing on chunks of ice. That is a successful strategy to stop talking.
very nice person, but tried to tell me "but at least she's the most
experienced person running," (this was early '16).
I was like "what the hell are you talking about?" But to that
person who can't see it, you can't MAKE them see it, even if they want
to try.
In the fall of 2016, I was at a convention, having dinner with the people at the magazine I do regular work for. They are in "New York" and some are "gay men." Well, the conversation turned to politics and their head sales guy, who was sitting next to me, proclaimed that Hillary was the most qualified person ever to run for office.
I grabbed my water, and started chewing on chunks of ice. That is a successful strategy to stop talking.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (UmCSQ)
470
461 Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
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Jimmy Carter makes James Comey look like a rank amateur in the Nobel Prize Oblivious Sanctimony category.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
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Jimmy Carter makes James Comey look like a rank amateur in the Nobel Prize Oblivious Sanctimony category.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (XVuno)
471
In late but I'll help organize a Lincoln City MoMe.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (Mki/r)
472
I'm hoping to move to the DC area late spring. Any chance of a MoMeet there?
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)
So am I! Well, late January next year, actually.
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)
So am I! Well, late January next year, actually.
Posted by: Mayor Peety Buttgig at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (hku12)
473
BurtTC, I admire you for going full frontal Godwin. 
With Obama it was more akin to Beatlemania, what with the shrieking and Tiger Beat cover photography. He really was bigger'n Jeebus!
With Obama it was more akin to Beatlemania, what with the shrieking and Tiger Beat cover photography. He really was bigger'n Jeebus!
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (Dc2NZ)
474
WHY?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 12:02 PM (MTxDQ
My husband passed away two years ago. I live in a big house in New England which costs a lot to heat and take care of now that I have to pay for everything to be done and my two wonderful sons both live in the area. The weather is milder and there is alwasy something to do and amazingly the property is actually cheaper for what I am looking for.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 12:02 PM (MTxDQ
My husband passed away two years ago. I live in a big house in New England which costs a lot to heat and take care of now that I have to pay for everything to be done and my two wonderful sons both live in the area. The weather is milder and there is alwasy something to do and amazingly the property is actually cheaper for what I am looking for.
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (QzF6i)
475
You're making MoMe vetting sound so negative. Look, the only adversary you will face during the Encounter is the one you bring with you to that place.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (t+qrx)
The worst part is getting past the sphinx statues that open their eyes and zap you with laser beams if you aren't confident and sure of purpose.
Posted by: hogmartin at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (t+qrx)
The worst part is getting past the sphinx statues that open their eyes and zap you with laser beams if you aren't confident and sure of purpose.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (NWiLs)
476
463
I always thought it was neat, back in my early teens, how something so minor came around and proved meaningful in the end.
Was that addressed in the movies? I can't remember.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 11:59 AM (N4r5a)
Presumably not.
That's the thing though, it's become cliche, especially in movies of
course, that if you SHOW a gun or knife, or even a seemingly harmless
object in the first act, it's going to be used quite importantly in the
last.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
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In the films I believe Aragorn gives them weapons.
Then does a macho fight scene with the Ringwraiths, who totally kick Gandalf's ass but quail before Viggo.
Just dumb.
As to the cliche, a weapon has to come from somewhere. As bad as Checkhov's Gun can be, what's worse is having tension reach a crescendo and then a gun or knife appear out of nowhere to resolve it.
I always thought it was neat, back in my early teens, how something so minor came around and proved meaningful in the end.
Was that addressed in the movies? I can't remember.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 11:59 AM (N4r5a)
Presumably not.
That's the thing though, it's become cliche, especially in movies of
course, that if you SHOW a gun or knife, or even a seemingly harmless
object in the first act, it's going to be used quite importantly in the
last.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
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In the films I believe Aragorn gives them weapons.
Then does a macho fight scene with the Ringwraiths, who totally kick Gandalf's ass but quail before Viggo.
Just dumb.
As to the cliche, a weapon has to come from somewhere. As bad as Checkhov's Gun can be, what's worse is having tension reach a crescendo and then a gun or knife appear out of nowhere to resolve it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:07 PM (cfSRQ)
477
Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
Hell: It's bad enough down here without having him around
Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 11:46 AM (MTxDQ)
Hell: It's bad enough down here without having him around
Posted by: TheQuietMan at January 05, 2020 12:07 PM (S6/o1)
478
Can we get the UN to kick us out?
Can we convince them that by staying in the US, they approve of Donald Trump's actions and his voters?
Can we convince them that by staying in the US, they approve of Donald Trump's actions and his voters?
Posted by: t-bird at January 05, 2020 12:08 PM (oTMWb)
479
464
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
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And all that talk about a moderate, modern Mohammedan state? I never wholly bought it, but if there was a chance in Hell of that happening, it would have been in the Shah's Iran. And Jimmie pissed that away.
For years I swore no president could be worse. OK, Obama beat Jimmie. But only by being re-elected.
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
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And all that talk about a moderate, modern Mohammedan state? I never wholly bought it, but if there was a chance in Hell of that happening, it would have been in the Shah's Iran. And Jimmie pissed that away.
For years I swore no president could be worse. OK, Obama beat Jimmie. But only by being re-elected.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 12:08 PM (ZbwAu)
480
Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
Because ah know that rabbit is just waitin' for me down there.
Because ah know that rabbit is just waitin' for me down there.
Posted by: Jimmah from Plains at January 05, 2020 12:08 PM (EgshT)
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You know what that hapless cretin also cost us? Nicaragua. Somosa may have been a son of a bitch, but he was *our* son of a bitch. Thanks to Peanut-head, that country turned into an America-hating nest of commie cockroaches.
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
Nixon looks like a saint and a sage next to that turd. He recognized the folly of both Nicaragua and Iran
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
Nixon looks like a saint and a sage next to that turd. He recognized the folly of both Nicaragua and Iran
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 12:08 PM (U7k5w)
482
The worst part is getting past the sphinx statues
that open their eyes and zap you with laser beams if you aren't
confident and sure of purpose.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (NWiLs)
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Only the penitent man may pass.
Or the one with a messenger bag riding a Vespa.
that open their eyes and zap you with laser beams if you aren't
confident and sure of purpose.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (NWiLs)
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Only the penitent man may pass.
Or the one with a messenger bag riding a Vespa.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:09 PM (cfSRQ)
483
Can we convince them that by staying in the US, they approve of Donald Trump's actions and his voters?
That seems like a task that the fellows at "4 Chan" or maybe even "Reddit" could take on.
Can we convince them that by staying in the US, they approve of Donald Trump's actions and his voters?
That seems like a task that the fellows at "4 Chan" or maybe even "Reddit" could take on.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 12:09 PM (UmCSQ)
484
The worst part is getting past the sphinx statues that open their eyes and zap you with laser beams if you aren't confident and sure of purpose.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (NWiLs)
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Don't let the collection of decapitated heads scattered about deter your sense of mission.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (NWiLs)
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Don't let the collection of decapitated heads scattered about deter your sense of mission.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 12:10 PM (XVuno)
485
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (QzF6i)
Thank you for that. I was starting to get a Tickled Pink vibe.
Thank you for that. I was starting to get a Tickled Pink vibe.
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 12:10 PM (MTxDQ)
486
Or the one with a messenger bag riding a Vespa.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:09 PM (cfSRQ)
That's because the sphinxes are too busy laughing their asses off to zap him.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:09 PM (cfSRQ)
That's because the sphinxes are too busy laughing their asses off to zap him.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (NWiLs)
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fustigate. transitive verb. fus·ti·gat·ed, fus·ti·gat·ing, fus·ti·gates. To beat with a club; cudgel. To criticize harshly.
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Latin lesson of the day. Fustis, fustis noun third declension, masculin. Staff, club or stick.
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Latin lesson of the day. Fustis, fustis noun third declension, masculin. Staff, club or stick.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (+y/Ru)
488
"Only the penitent man may pass.
Or the one with a messenger bag riding a Vespa."
Or a woman...
With a trampoline?
Or the one with a messenger bag riding a Vespa."
Or a woman...
With a trampoline?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (tT0V4)
489
Speaking of iran, why is Jimmy Carter still sucking air?
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Maybe he and RBG have a tontine?
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Maybe he and RBG have a tontine?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (ZbwAu)
490
I have a friend who once was willing to acknowledge that Hillory wasn't a very nice person, but tried to tell me "but at least she's the most experienced person running," (this was early '16).
I was like "what the hell are you talking about?" But to that person who can't see it, you can't MAKE them see it, even if they want to try.
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In the fall of 2016, I was at a convention, having dinner with the people at the magazine I do regular work for. They are in "New York" and some are "gay men." Well, the conversation turned to politics and their head sales guy, who was sitting next to me, proclaimed that Hillary was the most qualified person ever to run for office.
I grabbed my water, and started chewing on chunks of ice. That is a successful strategy to stop talking.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (UmCSQ)
There's a time honored strategy, in business, and perhaps even moreso in the military, where someone is being groomed for top management, to have them make stops along the way, garnering experience, and more importantly, chits they can accumulate to SHOW how much experience they have.
So when the discussion comes up, they can say "she did this and this and this," even though she never really did jackshite at any of her stops along the way.
I was like "what the hell are you talking about?" But to that person who can't see it, you can't MAKE them see it, even if they want to try.
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In the fall of 2016, I was at a convention, having dinner with the people at the magazine I do regular work for. They are in "New York" and some are "gay men." Well, the conversation turned to politics and their head sales guy, who was sitting next to me, proclaimed that Hillary was the most qualified person ever to run for office.
I grabbed my water, and started chewing on chunks of ice. That is a successful strategy to stop talking.
Posted by: shibumi, living in Atlas Shrugged at January 05, 2020 12:06 PM (UmCSQ)
There's a time honored strategy, in business, and perhaps even moreso in the military, where someone is being groomed for top management, to have them make stops along the way, garnering experience, and more importantly, chits they can accumulate to SHOW how much experience they have.
So when the discussion comes up, they can say "she did this and this and this," even though she never really did jackshite at any of her stops along the way.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (hku12)
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 12:12 PM (U7k5w)
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Or a woman...
With a trampoline?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (tT0V4)
I'm sure it's still around here somewhere.
With a trampoline?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (tT0V4)
I'm sure it's still around here somewhere.
Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2020 12:12 PM (pXNaM)
493
So when the discussion comes up, they can say "she did this and this and this," even though she never really did jackshite at any of her stops along the way.
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The Cursus Hilarium
So when the discussion comes up, they can say "she did this and this and this," even though she never really did jackshite at any of her stops along the way.
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The Cursus Hilarium
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (XVuno)
494
Older, but I recall loving The Deeds of Paksennarion by Elizabeth Moon. Yes, some magic, but was pretty gritty.
Moon is now, of course, a complete moron. But I do recall loving that series. Paks was no Rey.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 12:04 PM (N4r5a)
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Do you mean "moron" in the classical sense or the baroque Valu-Rite sense? I thought she was banished from WisCon for wrongthink.
Paks was great. She was a big uneducated farm girl from the sticks who needed a way out of Palookaville fast.
Moon is now, of course, a complete moron. But I do recall loving that series. Paks was no Rey.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 12:04 PM (N4r5a)
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Do you mean "moron" in the classical sense or the baroque Valu-Rite sense? I thought she was banished from WisCon for wrongthink.
Paks was great. She was a big uneducated farm girl from the sticks who needed a way out of Palookaville fast.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Revered She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (Dc2NZ)
495
Maybe he and RBG have a tontine?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (ZbwAu)
So Rosalyn is keeping him alive to collect some loot?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (ZbwAu)
So Rosalyn is keeping him alive to collect some loot?
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (U7k5w)
496
You're making MoMe vetting sound so negative. Look, the only adversary
you will face during the Encounter is the one you bring with you to that
place.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Do not, under any circumstances, respond in the affirmative if Hogmartin asks you if you paint houses. Keep one eye on him and his button men, and always have a clear path to the nearest exit.
you will face during the Encounter is the one you bring with you to that
place.
Posted by: hogmartin
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Do not, under any circumstances, respond in the affirmative if Hogmartin asks you if you paint houses. Keep one eye on him and his button men, and always have a clear path to the nearest exit.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (8AONa)
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491 Maybe he and RBG have a tontine?
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (ZbwAu)
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 12:12 PM (U7k5w)
Meh. They freeze before you even reach the first marker.
Posted by: Eeyore at January 05, 2020 12:11 PM (ZbwAu)
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 12:12 PM (U7k5w)
Meh. They freeze before you even reach the first marker.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (NWiLs)
498
26 Jake Holeinhead I read "Soul Code" by Sabrina Chase. Wow, a danged fine book.
Thanks! If you noticed, I had a lot of fun writing it
The book ended with
plenty of questions to be answered in a fourth book.
Whimper.
Currently working on the "College students save the world on a budget" volume in the Mage Guardian series. And with luck there will be a short story collection (with illustrations!) coming out this year. We shall see... my artist is in Australia and at least at the moment is not on fire. Hoping the trend continues.
Thanks! If you noticed, I had a lot of fun writing it
The book ended with
plenty of questions to be answered in a fourth book.
Whimper.
Currently working on the "College students save the world on a budget" volume in the Mage Guardian series. And with luck there will be a short story collection (with illustrations!) coming out this year. We shall see... my artist is in Australia and at least at the moment is not on fire. Hoping the trend continues.
Posted by: Sabrina Chase at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (XK6Vj)
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (MIKMs)
500
"I'm sure it's still around here somewhere."
It really should have a place of honor, in the Hordeseum.
Once Ace gets the shelves up.
It really should have a place of honor, in the Hordeseum.
Once Ace gets the shelves up.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:14 PM (tT0V4)
501
Do not, under any circumstances, respond in the
affirmative if Hogmartin asks you if you paint houses. Keep one eye on
him and his button men, and always have a clear path to the nearest
exit.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (8AONa)
Don't mention your spork collection either.
affirmative if Hogmartin asks you if you paint houses. Keep one eye on
him and his button men, and always have a clear path to the nearest
exit.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (8AONa)
Don't mention your spork collection either.
Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2020 12:14 PM (pXNaM)
502
499
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
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Panama.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (MIKMs)
Yeah we're runnin' a little bit hot tonight
I can barely see the road from the heat comin' off it
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
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Panama.
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 05, 2020 12:13 PM (MIKMs)
Yeah we're runnin' a little bit hot tonight
I can barely see the road from the heat comin' off it
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 05, 2020 12:15 PM (NWiLs)
503
Just got a phone call from my youngest. He's back Stateside from Iraq. His timing is nothing but remarkable.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 05, 2020 12:15 PM (FTlwv)
504
I'm reading "Calculating God" by Robert Sawyer. Aliens land and are surprised that human beings, especially scientists, deny the existence of God which is so blatantly obvious. I'm not very far into it, and I assume that it will eventually have the less advanced human race demonstrate how the more advanced aliens are ignorant, but it's a fun read so far.
Posted by: Jim S. at January 05, 2020 12:15 PM (ynUnH)
505
Panama, shit, I had forgotten about that. Nicklefucker. Where is MP4 when you need him?
Posted by: Infidel at January 05, 2020 12:15 PM (MTxDQ)
506
Just got a phone call from my youngest. He's back Stateside from Iraq. His timing is nothing but remarkable.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 05, 2020 12:15 PM (FTlwv)
Yay!
Glad to hear he's OK.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 05, 2020 12:15 PM (FTlwv)
Yay!
Glad to hear he's OK.
Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2020 12:15 PM (pXNaM)
507
Sadly, Roberts has sold or at least is not displaying as much of the original art as he used to have. There is still a lot up, but isn't as amazing as it used to be as a museum of original pulp cover art. He still has a full size Sunday Pogo original and a lot of other stuff up (plus a marvelous collection of books) though.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 05, 2020 12:16 PM (KZzsI)
508
Nood
Posted by: Vendette at January 05, 2020 12:16 PM (pXNaM)
509
Well, now that you all have helped me to procrastinate my entire morning away, have to get out of bed and go to the gym. Swim or weight machines? At least I don;t have to worry about watching football.
Posted by: sharon at January 05, 2020 12:16 PM (QzF6i)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:16 PM (tT0V4)
511
The book is the cow in the pasture. The movie is the steak on the plate. Getting from one to the other requires butchery.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:16 PM (H8QX8)
512
@494 Huh, I thought she had now turned small-m moron, not the good kind. Been a while, might have been during Bush.
Regardless, I recommend the Deeds series quite often, and will read it again when I get back to reading.
Regardless, I recommend the Deeds series quite often, and will read it again when I get back to reading.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 12:16 PM (N4r5a)
513
There was just a guy on Fox, saying "this is not who we are, WWIII, bad move by Bad Orangeman" and he was waving his arms around like he was trying to take off. To make this a part of the book thread, only aviators should be allowed to talk with their hands, and they should be aviators that Ernest Kellogg Gann described.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 05, 2020 12:16 PM (C1Lsn)
514
I have a friend who once was willing to acknowledge that Hillory wasn't a very nice person, but tried to tell me "but at least she's the most experienced person running,"
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Ike and Billy Clanton, and Tom and Frank McLaury may not have been very nice people but they were very experienced at gunfighting.
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Ike and Billy Clanton, and Tom and Frank McLaury may not have been very nice people but they were very experienced at gunfighting.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 12:17 PM (+y/Ru)
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Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
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In the films I believe Aragorn gives them weapons.
Then does a macho fight scene with the Ringwraiths, who totally kick Gandalf's ass but quail before Viggo.
Just dumb.
As to the cliche, a weapon has to come from somewhere. As bad as Checkhov's Gun can be, what's worse is having tension reach a crescendo and then a gun or knife appear out of nowhere to resolve it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:07 PM (cfSRQ)
Speaking of, as much as I love the John Wick movies, it's awfully convenient that everybody uses the same caliber/model handguns, so you can kill somebody, drop your empty clip, grab the extras out of the dead guy's pocket, insert them in your weapon and keep firing.
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In the films I believe Aragorn gives them weapons.
Then does a macho fight scene with the Ringwraiths, who totally kick Gandalf's ass but quail before Viggo.
Just dumb.
As to the cliche, a weapon has to come from somewhere. As bad as Checkhov's Gun can be, what's worse is having tension reach a crescendo and then a gun or knife appear out of nowhere to resolve it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:07 PM (cfSRQ)
Speaking of, as much as I love the John Wick movies, it's awfully convenient that everybody uses the same caliber/model handguns, so you can kill somebody, drop your empty clip, grab the extras out of the dead guy's pocket, insert them in your weapon and keep firing.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 12:17 PM (hku12)
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For those visiting Coastal Oregon the Canyon Way Book Store and Restaurant in Newport is a treat.
And if you plan on dinner and dessert phone ahead to reserve one of their special desserts of the day.
They go fast!
If the Smith Family Bookstore in Corvallis is still in operation it is highly recommended, also.
And if you plan on dinner and dessert phone ahead to reserve one of their special desserts of the day.
They go fast!
If the Smith Family Bookstore in Corvallis is still in operation it is highly recommended, also.
Posted by: Waepnedmann at January 05, 2020 12:18 PM (ImX7s)
517
Thank you VIA and Vendette! Probably just as well that my posting is willowed, it is not good practice to announce.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at January 05, 2020 12:19 PM (FTlwv)
518
You know what that hapless cretin also cost us? Nicaragua. Somosa may have been a son of a bitch, but he was *our* son of a bitch. Thanks to Peanut-head, that country turned into an America-hating nest of commie cockroaches.
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
You know, Ortega started out as a Commie/Socialist, but he has mostly governed to the right. To such a degree that other Sandinistas refer to him as "Somoza lite". He even banned abortion in order to curry favor with the Catholic Church, which is still a strong force there. He is no saint, but he could have been a lot worse, like Hugo Chavez.
Ortega is getting old, and is in poor health. His wife, who is a real nasty piece of work, bids fair to succeed him. That should not be allowed to happen.
Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
You know, Ortega started out as a Commie/Socialist, but he has mostly governed to the right. To such a degree that other Sandinistas refer to him as "Somoza lite". He even banned abortion in order to curry favor with the Catholic Church, which is still a strong force there. He is no saint, but he could have been a lot worse, like Hugo Chavez.
Ortega is getting old, and is in poor health. His wife, who is a real nasty piece of work, bids fair to succeed him. That should not be allowed to happen.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 05, 2020 12:19 PM (LxWV7)
519
I'm going to give you all an earworm, but I came by it honestly. So you must pay.
I have a barnyard relative who doesn't know his own origin story. He thinks he's the bastard son of my Uncle Peter. That's contrary to the stories I'd heard, but the guy is in his 70s and has Parkinson's and doesn't know his own origin story, so I enquired of the elders including Peter.
Well, it's as I'd heard. His father was a Gypsy and his mother was a dancer in a travelling show. My grandmother took him in at some point.
Anyway, I told him that his backstory was a Cher song and now I can't get that out of my head.
I have a barnyard relative who doesn't know his own origin story. He thinks he's the bastard son of my Uncle Peter. That's contrary to the stories I'd heard, but the guy is in his 70s and has Parkinson's and doesn't know his own origin story, so I enquired of the elders including Peter.
Well, it's as I'd heard. His father was a Gypsy and his mother was a dancer in a travelling show. My grandmother took him in at some point.
Anyway, I told him that his backstory was a Cher song and now I can't get that out of my head.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 12:20 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 05, 2020 12:21 PM (hku12)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (cfSRQ)
I agree with some of your points and the idea that militarily the CSA needed to win quickly. As the war dragged on, the CSA was less and less able to support the effort. In a simulation, the USA should win.
But still, all the CSA had to do is continue to exist. The USA had to conquer them. The CSA was destroyed, certainly the major centers that provided food and materiel were destroyed.
I get the argument that Richmond could have been taken during the Peninsular Campaign, maybe it should have been taken. But taking Richmond would no more end the war than sacking DC would defeat the USA. The Brits took New York and Philly but it didn't end the war. Lincoln himself kept telling his Generals that Richmond was not the goal, but Lee's army..
I understand that the CSA caught some breaks. One was Johnston getting wounded and replaced by Lee. But no matter their advantage, what the USA had to do to end the war was win a complete victory. The CSA only had to survive. A lot of people in the North did not agree with pursuing the war. In fact, if they had known the cost, I bet few would have supported it from day one.
I agree with some of your points and the idea that militarily the CSA needed to win quickly. As the war dragged on, the CSA was less and less able to support the effort. In a simulation, the USA should win.
But still, all the CSA had to do is continue to exist. The USA had to conquer them. The CSA was destroyed, certainly the major centers that provided food and materiel were destroyed.
I get the argument that Richmond could have been taken during the Peninsular Campaign, maybe it should have been taken. But taking Richmond would no more end the war than sacking DC would defeat the USA. The Brits took New York and Philly but it didn't end the war. Lincoln himself kept telling his Generals that Richmond was not the goal, but Lee's army..
I understand that the CSA caught some breaks. One was Johnston getting wounded and replaced by Lee. But no matter their advantage, what the USA had to do to end the war was win a complete victory. The CSA only had to survive. A lot of people in the North did not agree with pursuing the war. In fact, if they had known the cost, I bet few would have supported it from day one.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:22 PM (n13/j)
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Can you imagine what President Trump recommending a book to his 63+ million Twitter followers will do for sales?
That's pretty much what it takes to get your book noticed and get sales. Patrick O'Brian started writing his sea novels in the 1960s and didn't get any real sales (or any publication at all) in the USA until the 1980s because someone influential started pushing his books to friends and others. Advertising doesn't really sell books.
I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Ideally, that's what an author wants women to do with their male protagonist
That's pretty much what it takes to get your book noticed and get sales. Patrick O'Brian started writing his sea novels in the 1960s and didn't get any real sales (or any publication at all) in the USA until the 1980s because someone influential started pushing his books to friends and others. Advertising doesn't really sell books.
I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Ideally, that's what an author wants women to do with their male protagonist
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 05, 2020 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
523
I'm reading "Calculating God" by Robert Sawyer. Aliens land and are surprised that human beings, especially scientists, deny the existence of God which is so blatantly obvious. I'm not very far into it, and I assume that it will eventually have the less advanced human race demonstrate how the more advanced aliens are ignorant, but it's a fun read so far.
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I quite liked that book although there are some typical prog tropes in it, most notably a couple radical anti-evolution Bible thumpers who blowup fossils to prevent others from being misled. If you like this book, avoid Quantum Night like the plague. That was the book that ended my Sawyer infatuation as OM discussed above.
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I quite liked that book although there are some typical prog tropes in it, most notably a couple radical anti-evolution Bible thumpers who blowup fossils to prevent others from being misled. If you like this book, avoid Quantum Night like the plague. That was the book that ended my Sawyer infatuation as OM discussed above.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at January 05, 2020 12:24 PM (+y/Ru)
524
Salem's best bookstore is Escape Fiction, smaller than Roberts but great collection and has that nice used book store maze feeling. The Book Bin is okay; its bigger and has plenty of content on three floors but its clearly run by extremely hard core leftists so you're bombarded with Obama, global warming, and other trendy latest leftist crap at the door.
Plus they're so uppity they won't work with needy local authors to sell books.
Plus they're so uppity they won't work with needy local authors to sell books.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 05, 2020 12:25 PM (KZzsI)
525
I found "Calculating God" a mix. It starts out promising, but ends up weak, with a huge paradox.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 05, 2020 12:27 PM (KZzsI)
526
Well, it's as I'd heard. His father was a Gypsy and his mother was a dancer in a travelling show. My grandmother took him in at some point.
Anyway, I told him that his backstory was a Cher song and now I can't get that out of my head.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 12:20 PM (gd9RK)
so she used to dance for the money they'd throw?
Anyway, I told him that his backstory was a Cher song and now I can't get that out of my head.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 12:20 PM (gd9RK)
so she used to dance for the money they'd throw?
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 05, 2020 12:27 PM (V2Yro)
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In the films I believe Aragorn gives them weapons.
Then does a macho fight scene with the Ringwraiths, who totally kick Gandalf's ass but quail before Viggo.
Just dumb.
The sub-textual and more subtle mythology that permeates the books and directs behavior and the rules of that universe are missing from the films. Jackson focused on big, easily digestible ideas, ones that could cinematically translate well (Eowyn the woman slaying Angmar, lowly and miserable Gollum proving his purpose in the end) but lost track of the seemingly smaller stuff and how it might trip him up. Thus we see an array of incoherencies and inconsistencies around the dynamics of power.
Then does a macho fight scene with the Ringwraiths, who totally kick Gandalf's ass but quail before Viggo.
Just dumb.
The sub-textual and more subtle mythology that permeates the books and directs behavior and the rules of that universe are missing from the films. Jackson focused on big, easily digestible ideas, ones that could cinematically translate well (Eowyn the woman slaying Angmar, lowly and miserable Gollum proving his purpose in the end) but lost track of the seemingly smaller stuff and how it might trip him up. Thus we see an array of incoherencies and inconsistencies around the dynamics of power.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:27 PM (H8QX8)
528
Started reading Corey's, The Expanse series. About 2/3 of the way through the first book, Leviathan Wakes.
Wondering if there's anyone out there that has gotten through the series and if it's worth completing.
Wondering if there's anyone out there that has gotten through the series and if it's worth completing.
Posted by: NJRob at January 05, 2020 12:28 PM (a6Qv/)
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I get the argument that Richmond could have been
taken during the Peninsular Campaign, maybe it should have been taken.
But taking Richmond would no more end the war than sacking DC would
defeat the USA. The Brits took New York and Philly but it didn't end the
war. Lincoln himself kept telling his Generals that Richmond was not
the goal, but Lee's army..
I understand that the CSA caught some
breaks. One was Johnston getting wounded and replaced by Lee. But no
matter their advantage, what the USA had to do to end the war was win a
complete victory. The CSA only had to survive. A lot of people in the
North did not agree with pursuing the war. In fact, if they had known
the cost, I bet few would have supported it from day one.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:22 PM (n13/j)
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Richmond was the South's largest arms and ammunition factory. Almost it's only one, in fact.
Without it, they would be crippled.
Plus, the fall of a rebel capital within a year of the declaration of independence would have closed the door on foreign recognition.
The strategic task of the South was simpler, but they had crippling shortages of everything as well as divided leadership.
It really was the North's war to lose.
taken during the Peninsular Campaign, maybe it should have been taken.
But taking Richmond would no more end the war than sacking DC would
defeat the USA. The Brits took New York and Philly but it didn't end the
war. Lincoln himself kept telling his Generals that Richmond was not
the goal, but Lee's army..
I understand that the CSA caught some
breaks. One was Johnston getting wounded and replaced by Lee. But no
matter their advantage, what the USA had to do to end the war was win a
complete victory. The CSA only had to survive. A lot of people in the
North did not agree with pursuing the war. In fact, if they had known
the cost, I bet few would have supported it from day one.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:22 PM (n13/j)
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Richmond was the South's largest arms and ammunition factory. Almost it's only one, in fact.
Without it, they would be crippled.
Plus, the fall of a rebel capital within a year of the declaration of independence would have closed the door on foreign recognition.
The strategic task of the South was simpler, but they had crippling shortages of everything as well as divided leadership.
It really was the North's war to lose.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:28 PM (cfSRQ)
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Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:00 PM (cfSRQ)
And don't misunderstand me. I don't think the CSA was ever close to winning a military victory in that war. I they won and Gettysburg, they still lose. The only real issue was USA resolve backed up by the ballot box.
And don't misunderstand me. I don't think the CSA was ever close to winning a military victory in that war. I they won and Gettysburg, they still lose. The only real issue was USA resolve backed up by the ballot box.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:29 PM (n13/j)
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so she used to dance for the money they'd throw?
That's what I thought. My mother almost took my head off for suggesting that Aunt Deb was a stripper, so there's only so far that enquiring of elders can go.
That's what I thought. My mother almost took my head off for suggesting that Aunt Deb was a stripper, so there's only so far that enquiring of elders can go.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 05, 2020 12:30 PM (gd9RK)
532
464
....Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
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Don't forget the Panama treaty.
ALL of the parties in Panama wanted him to insist on elections and a restoration of democracy before making the "deal." Carter could have made that requirement to Torrijos, who would have accepted it. (Torrijos would be favored to win a free election anyway.)
But Wimpo Carter goes ahead and makes the "deal" with a dictator.
I put the word "deal" in quotation marks because it was an Obama-style "deal," where the US gets NOTHING in return.
In any case, Torrijos, who at least was charismatic and very competent, dies in a plane crash and Noriega takes over. Thanks, Jimmy.
Yeah, he's to blame for that POS too.
....Thanks, Jimmy, you feckless crapweasel.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at January 05, 2020 12:05 PM (AWstk)
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Don't forget the Panama treaty.
ALL of the parties in Panama wanted him to insist on elections and a restoration of democracy before making the "deal." Carter could have made that requirement to Torrijos, who would have accepted it. (Torrijos would be favored to win a free election anyway.)
But Wimpo Carter goes ahead and makes the "deal" with a dictator.
I put the word "deal" in quotation marks because it was an Obama-style "deal," where the US gets NOTHING in return.
In any case, Torrijos, who at least was charismatic and very competent, dies in a plane crash and Noriega takes over. Thanks, Jimmy.
Yeah, he's to blame for that POS too.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at January 05, 2020 12:33 PM (M/9m0)
533
The sub-textual and more subtle mythology that
permeates the books and directs behavior and the rules of that universe
are missing from the films. Jackson focused on big, easily digestible
ideas, ones that could cinematically translate well (Eowyn the woman
slaying Angmar, lowly and miserable Gollum proving his purpose in the
end) but lost track of the seemingly smaller stuff and how it might trip
him up. Thus we see an array of incoherencies and inconsistencies
around the dynamics of power.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:27 PM (H8QX
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Jackson botched basic things like cause and effect. The plot makes no sense in his telling. There is no sense of time or distance. Things just happen randomly.
Characters are flat, do dumb things and then move on to do more dumb things.
One can argue that much needed to be stripped out, but Jackson added stuff that wasn't there and made the problems of continuity worse.
permeates the books and directs behavior and the rules of that universe
are missing from the films. Jackson focused on big, easily digestible
ideas, ones that could cinematically translate well (Eowyn the woman
slaying Angmar, lowly and miserable Gollum proving his purpose in the
end) but lost track of the seemingly smaller stuff and how it might trip
him up. Thus we see an array of incoherencies and inconsistencies
around the dynamics of power.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at January 05, 2020 12:27 PM (H8QX
---
Jackson botched basic things like cause and effect. The plot makes no sense in his telling. There is no sense of time or distance. Things just happen randomly.
Characters are flat, do dumb things and then move on to do more dumb things.
One can argue that much needed to be stripped out, but Jackson added stuff that wasn't there and made the problems of continuity worse.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 05, 2020 12:34 PM (cfSRQ)
534
>>>I fell in love with my fictional composite girlfriend.<<<
For future reference, Mitch Obama is also versatile enough to be your boyfriend.
For future reference, Mitch Obama is also versatile enough to be your boyfriend.
Posted by: Fritz at January 05, 2020 12:37 PM (zD38/)
535
Richmond was the South's largest arms and ammunition factory. Almost it's only one, in fact.
Without it, they would be crippled.
-----
The Tredegar Iron Works were vital for sure. But there is a reason half the CSA's supplies were attained from their enemies. I accept the argument that the war could have ended very badly in 1862. But I don't accept the idea that Union victory was inevitable. Too many died for that victory for that to be true. It is just a difference of opinion, you have made some really good points and I would be happy to discuss it again sometime.
Without it, they would be crippled.
-----
The Tredegar Iron Works were vital for sure. But there is a reason half the CSA's supplies were attained from their enemies. I accept the argument that the war could have ended very badly in 1862. But I don't accept the idea that Union victory was inevitable. Too many died for that victory for that to be true. It is just a difference of opinion, you have made some really good points and I would be happy to discuss it again sometime.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:40 PM (n13/j)
536
Well, I know the thread is dead now, but I can't believe I forgot to mention that the best thing from the Jackson LoTR movies was Howard Shore's FoTR Musical Score.
Honorable mention: Liv Tyler showing the world what a pretty crier looks like.
Honorable mention: Liv Tyler showing the world what a pretty crier looks like.
Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at January 05, 2020 12:40 PM (N4r5a)
537
"One final point. The CSA never did run out of bullets. They ran out of men and horses. They ran out of food for both. I enjoyed this discussion A.H, Loyd and hope we can do it again in more depth if you like.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:44 PM (n13/j)
538
Can't pretend it's morning any longer. 'Bye.
Posted by: Trimegistus at January 05, 2020 12:45 PM (urZJh)
539
collection and has that nice used book store maze feeling. The Book Bin is okay; its bigger and has plenty of content on three floors but its clearly run by extremely hard core leftists so you're bombarded with Obama, global warming, and other trendy latest leftist crap at the door.
During the run up to Obamacare they had pro Obamacare flyers every where. I'll never set foot in there again.
During the run up to Obamacare they had pro Obamacare flyers every where. I'll never set foot in there again.
Posted by: Beartooth at January 05, 2020 12:48 PM (Mki/r)
Posted by: Tuna at January 05, 2020 12:58 PM (RueoN)
541
Book recommendation: The Romance of the Calendar. P.W. Wilson. W.W. Norton & Co. Inc. Publishers. New York. 1937.
It's a beautiful history of the calendar, whose "opening chapter has to bead in the dim light of the dawn of time."
I bring it up b/c of this:
"In their characters and circumstances, Julius Caesar and Mohammed were poles apart. The one was a man of the West-- practical, orderly, opportunist. The other was a man of the East-- fanatic in his fervor and filled to overflowing with the divine madness of mysticism. Yet when these two men came to handle the calendar, they were curiously alike. They knew that something should be done about it. They believed they knew what should be done. They did it.
"There had to be a decision which admitted of no compromise. Caesar looked to the future and chose the sun. Mohammed looked on the past and adhered no less definitely to the moon."
I did a few posts about the book a few years ago: https://tinyurl.com/twdkds7
It's a beautiful history of the calendar, whose "opening chapter has to bead in the dim light of the dawn of time."
I bring it up b/c of this:
"In their characters and circumstances, Julius Caesar and Mohammed were poles apart. The one was a man of the West-- practical, orderly, opportunist. The other was a man of the East-- fanatic in his fervor and filled to overflowing with the divine madness of mysticism. Yet when these two men came to handle the calendar, they were curiously alike. They knew that something should be done about it. They believed they knew what should be done. They did it.
"There had to be a decision which admitted of no compromise. Caesar looked to the future and chose the sun. Mohammed looked on the past and adhered no less definitely to the moon."
I did a few posts about the book a few years ago: https://tinyurl.com/twdkds7
Posted by: Marica at January 05, 2020 01:03 PM (KC8XS)
542
'' I have a confession to make. I think I have fallen in love with a character in a book.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i) ''
Yes, John Thornton in Elizabeth Gaskell's ''North and South"'. Then I watched the mini series. Let's just say I was totally besotted after that. The actor who played him was beyond ...well I don't know what he was beyond but it was way, way beyond.
Anyone else have this happen?
Posted by: Sharon at January 05, 2020 09:24 AM (QzF6i) ''
Yes, John Thornton in Elizabeth Gaskell's ''North and South"'. Then I watched the mini series. Let's just say I was totally besotted after that. The actor who played him was beyond ...well I don't know what he was beyond but it was way, way beyond.
Posted by: Tuna at January 05, 2020 01:09 PM (RueoN)
543
308 I stopped reading dragon republic I keep trying and it's garbage. First book is good
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (dKiJG)
I abandoned that one pretty quickly, Patrick. Rin's character didn't improve in the second volume. Instead, it seems that all of her self-centeredness and bad decision-making were amplified. I think I lasted for two chapters.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 05, 2020 11:16 AM (dKiJG)
I abandoned that one pretty quickly, Patrick. Rin's character didn't improve in the second volume. Instead, it seems that all of her self-centeredness and bad decision-making were amplified. I think I lasted for two chapters.
Posted by: April at January 05, 2020 01:19 PM (OX9vb)
544
Damn your eyes Kindltot,
the Missus rides a terrible herd on me when ever I go to Lincoln City. All I am allowed to do is gaze longingly at the bookstores and Pig 'n a Poke...
the Missus rides a terrible herd on me when ever I go to Lincoln City. All I am allowed to do is gaze longingly at the bookstores and Pig 'n a Poke...
Posted by: Kazi at January 05, 2020 01:28 PM (0x00j)
545
Oops.
The Smith Family Bookstore in Corvallis is no more, but the Smith Family Bookstore in Eugene is still in business, no thanks to Amazon.
The Smith Family Bookstore in Corvallis is no more, but the Smith Family Bookstore in Eugene is still in business, no thanks to Amazon.
Posted by: Waepnedmann at January 05, 2020 01:30 PM (ImX7s)
546
95
OregonMuse
Glad to see someone picked up on Heinleins medical issues around the time the "peculiar" period of his writing came around.
Books written after the (at the time, revolutionary) brain surgery restored his balance were very good, "Sail beyond sunset" for one.
I continued to buy those 'peculiar' books because I was active in the SF community at the time and had heard of Bob's illness, he needed the money and I felt I owed him for the importance his earliest books had on my life.
Tom Clancy after his divorce was never the same, most books seemed that the co-writer was doing all the work. But Clancy had had other up and down swings in his writing, The Cardinal of the Kremlin wasn't so good, Clear and Present Danger was. After Sum of all Fears (and if the book was so-so the movie remains the worst adaption by a book in all time, IMHO) came Debt of Honor and Executive Orders, great books. EO; the explanation of the threat and weaponization of Ebola remains one the best uses of the particular threat by an author.
Wish I still had all those books today, house fire in 2004 took everything. Including a members only first edition of The Hunt for Red October from the Naval Institute Press.
OregonMuse
Glad to see someone picked up on Heinleins medical issues around the time the "peculiar" period of his writing came around.
Books written after the (at the time, revolutionary) brain surgery restored his balance were very good, "Sail beyond sunset" for one.
I continued to buy those 'peculiar' books because I was active in the SF community at the time and had heard of Bob's illness, he needed the money and I felt I owed him for the importance his earliest books had on my life.
Tom Clancy after his divorce was never the same, most books seemed that the co-writer was doing all the work. But Clancy had had other up and down swings in his writing, The Cardinal of the Kremlin wasn't so good, Clear and Present Danger was. After Sum of all Fears (and if the book was so-so the movie remains the worst adaption by a book in all time, IMHO) came Debt of Honor and Executive Orders, great books. EO; the explanation of the threat and weaponization of Ebola remains one the best uses of the particular threat by an author.
Wish I still had all those books today, house fire in 2004 took everything. Including a members only first edition of The Hunt for Red October from the Naval Institute Press.
Posted by: John the River at January 05, 2020 01:44 PM (/3goP)
547
The series I gave up on is Laurel K. Hamilton's "Anita Blake" series. I made it through 11 1/2 of them, 10 of which were pretty good. The start off as supernatural murder mysteries and devolve into supernatural Mary Sue porn. It is my understanding that Hamilton went through a divorce went through a divorce around the time that the series turned into non-stop gang-bangs.
Posted by: Darth Randall at January 05, 2020 01:49 PM (tpKHK)
548
Never wed ONE writer, musician, politician, sports star, etc.
You miss so much when you waste time on the mediocre works of so many great writers, musicians, etc.
In the case of Heinlein, I read his Foundation Trilogy which fascinated me and also Starship Troopers, but nothing else of his, not even book 4 of Foundation.
Read the best that humanity has to offer, regardless of how you found it.
Remember, authors are people, and they have all the faults, weaknesses of the race and can't be perfect for you all the time.
I say this as a Wonder Woman fan who trembles as we approach the coming release of WW84.
Never wed ONE writer, musician, politician, sports star, etc.
You miss so much when you waste time on the mediocre works of so many great writers, musicians, etc.
In the case of Heinlein, I read his Foundation Trilogy which fascinated me and also Starship Troopers, but nothing else of his, not even book 4 of Foundation.
Read the best that humanity has to offer, regardless of how you found it.
Remember, authors are people, and they have all the faults, weaknesses of the race and can't be perfect for you all the time.
I say this as a Wonder Woman fan who trembles as we approach the coming release of WW84.
Posted by: Sapwolf at January 05, 2020 02:00 PM (nuv3n)
549
Hold on. Foundation which I read years ago was Asimov, not Heinlein. Corrected. :-)
Posted by: Sapwolf at January 05, 2020 02:02 PM (nuv3n)
550
I just want to say I'm wearing pants. On my head. But they're pants.
Also struggling to make it through the last book of a space opera series where each book has more goreball warmering preaching. Other than that, it's a great series, but it's starting to annoy me.
Also struggling to make it through the last book of a space opera series where each book has more goreball warmering preaching. Other than that, it's a great series, but it's starting to annoy me.
Posted by: Sarah Hoyt at January 05, 2020 02:38 PM (zlzYb)
551
Also, Muse, I must protest. Heinlein never wrote porn. Any modern romance is 10x more porny.
De gustibus non est disputandum, but truly, not porny. Not even erotica. That requires a lot more up close and personal discussion of what goes where when and how many times. (And I don't like it, because mostly it's very badly written, which is why when I DO read romance, it's "sweet" or "traditional" romance.
Sorry. As "The Woman Who Likes Heinlein" who is 90% of all Heinlein flame wars on the internet, I MUST say this.
(Adjusts pant legs so she can see the screen better.)
De gustibus non est disputandum, but truly, not porny. Not even erotica. That requires a lot more up close and personal discussion of what goes where when and how many times. (And I don't like it, because mostly it's very badly written, which is why when I DO read romance, it's "sweet" or "traditional" romance.
Sorry. As "The Woman Who Likes Heinlein" who is 90% of all Heinlein flame wars on the internet, I MUST say this.
(Adjusts pant legs so she can see the screen better.)
Posted by: Sarah Hoyt at January 05, 2020 02:42 PM (zlzYb)
552
I've got a biography of Danilo Kis that I feel compelled to read before I cast off the mortal coil so decisions, decisions...
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 09:29 AM (y7DUB)
I read "A Tomb For Boris Davidovich" once upon a time and enjoyed it.
But, at the time, I think that was the only Kis novel translated into english.
Now, I see several of his books in English on amazon.
since you sound like a member of the Kis Army,
do you have any of his other works that you recommend?
If you're still around.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 09:29 AM (y7DUB)
I read "A Tomb For Boris Davidovich" once upon a time and enjoyed it.
But, at the time, I think that was the only Kis novel translated into english.
Now, I see several of his books in English on amazon.
since you sound like a member of the Kis Army,
do you have any of his other works that you recommend?
If you're still around.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2020 02:49 PM (q57gj)
553
Thank you for that. I was starting to get a Tickled Pink vibe.
Posted by: Infidel
She didn't fart !
Posted by: Infidel
She didn't fart !
Posted by: JT at January 05, 2020 02:52 PM (arJlL)
554
550 I just want to say I'm wearing pants. On my head. But they're pants.
Also struggling to make it through the last book of a space opera series where each book has more goreball warmering preaching. Other than that, it's a great series, but it's starting to annoy me.
Posted by: Sarah Hoyt at January 05, 2020 02:38 PM (zlzYb)
Love your blog, BTW
Also struggling to make it through the last book of a space opera series where each book has more goreball warmering preaching. Other than that, it's a great series, but it's starting to annoy me.
Posted by: Sarah Hoyt at January 05, 2020 02:38 PM (zlzYb)
Love your blog, BTW
Posted by: CN at January 05, 2020 03:12 PM (U7k5w)
555
Used bookstores can be so surprisingly interesting - almost organic in the way they are laid out. We found one in Canyon, Texas, just south of Amarillo on a trip from Alabama to New Mexico that had, as the main entrance to their children's section, a wardrobe for kids to climb through. There was obviously a back entrance to the area so that grandma and those in wheel chairs could get the kids birthday presents. But I thought the main entrance to the section was on of the cleverest retail presentations I've ever seen. It made you stop and wonder why you were seeing it for the first time.
Posted by: Ben at January 05, 2020 03:43 PM (WnckZ)
556
I read "A Tomb For Boris Davidovich" once upon a time and enjoyed it.
But, at the time, I think that was the only Kis novel translated into english.
Now, I see several of his books in English on amazon.
since you sound like a member of the Kis Army,
do you have any of his other works that you recommend?
If you're still around.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2020 02:49 PM (q57gj)
Thanks for asking because I sporadically look for late additions. You should enjoy The Encyclopedia of the Dead as being like A Tomb for Boris Davidovich in terms of a Borges like tendency of writing about fictional characters as if they really existed.
But, at the time, I think that was the only Kis novel translated into english.
Now, I see several of his books in English on amazon.
since you sound like a member of the Kis Army,
do you have any of his other works that you recommend?
If you're still around.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2020 02:49 PM (q57gj)
Thanks for asking because I sporadically look for late additions. You should enjoy The Encyclopedia of the Dead as being like A Tomb for Boris Davidovich in terms of a Borges like tendency of writing about fictional characters as if they really existed.
Posted by: Captain Hate at January 05, 2020 03:57 PM (y7DUB)
557
On "James Corey" : this is a case where the show is better than the book. Also, the Corey duo have a bad case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, and general douchebaggery to Trump's voters.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at January 05, 2020 04:04 PM (ykYG2)
558
Love seeing the photo of Robert's-was there w/family on Dec 31st. Wish I'd won the lottery so I could buy all the books I wanted.
Posted by: Hall Dall MD at January 05, 2020 05:13 PM (0Zngp)
559
This week, I'm reading a cookbook, "Perfect Pan Pizza"
Neil Gaiman is an author I get kicks of loving and tiring of.
I'll have to check out Rush's kid books with my tween.
Neil Gaiman is an author I get kicks of loving and tiring of.
I'll have to check out Rush's kid books with my tween.
Posted by: Mother of Otters at January 05, 2020 06:16 PM (Qqq4N)
560
Richmond was the South's largest arms and ammunition factory. Almost it's only one, in fact.
Without it, they would be crippled.
-----
The
Tredegar Iron Works were vital for sure. But there is a reason half the
CSA's supplies were attained from their enemies. I accept the argument
that the war could have ended very badly in 1862. But I don't accept the
idea that Union victory was inevitable. Too many died for that victory
for that to be true. It is just a difference of opinion, you have made
some really good points and I would be happy to discuss it again
sometime.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:40 PM (n13/j)
not very badly, very quickly and decisively is what I meant to say. It would have been the same ending lol.
Without it, they would be crippled.
-----
The
Tredegar Iron Works were vital for sure. But there is a reason half the
CSA's supplies were attained from their enemies. I accept the argument
that the war could have ended very badly in 1862. But I don't accept the
idea that Union victory was inevitable. Too many died for that victory
for that to be true. It is just a difference of opinion, you have made
some really good points and I would be happy to discuss it again
sometime.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 12:40 PM (n13/j)
not very badly, very quickly and decisively is what I meant to say. It would have been the same ending lol.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 06:25 PM (n13/j)
561
We should do a Civil War book discussion some time.
Posted by: Quint at January 05, 2020 06:27 PM (n13/j)
Posted by: naturalfake at January 05, 2020 06:36 PM (q57gj)
563
Looked up "Restoring the Republic" and Amazon has "currently unavailable because of quality source issues from the publisher".... ????
In the current climate I can only believe that Amazon is pulling some BS to hurt sales while the publicity of PJDT's Tweet is fresh.
Un. Be. Fuckinglievable.
In the current climate I can only believe that Amazon is pulling some BS to hurt sales while the publicity of PJDT's Tweet is fresh.
Un. Be. Fuckinglievable.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at January 05, 2020 08:21 PM (sGOvg)
564
In the current climate I can only believe that Amazon is pulling some BS to hurt sales while the publicity of PJDT's Tweet is fresh.
that's why you publish in more than one store. I checked Kobo and it wasn't there at all.
that's why you publish in more than one store. I checked Kobo and it wasn't there at all.
Posted by: gingeroni at January 05, 2020 09:01 PM (/XPvv)
565
The interior of that Lincoln City bookstore reminds me of that of Recycled Books and Records in Denton, Texas. You can get disoriented in that one, too. A great store.
Posted by: WannabeAnglican at January 05, 2020 09:26 PM (zAp+j)
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two weeks ago, wisdomspiritualtemple@gmail.com I cannot say everything he has done for me my wife
left me 3 years ago left with my kids I was going through online
when I meant this wonderful man's testimony online I decided to
give it a try and my wife is back to me now and we ar1e happily
married again cause is too much to put in writing all I can say is
thank you very much am very happy .and does alot of spell
including Love Spell
Death Spell
Money Spell
Power Spell
Success Spell
Sickness Spell
Pregnancy Spell
Marriage Spell
Job Spell
Protection Spell
Lottery Spell
Court Case Spell
Luck Spell etc. In case you need his help contact him on this email
address wisdomspiritualtemple@gmail.com he is a good man
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Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat