Wednesday News Dump 2/17/16 [Misanthropic Humanitarian]

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    1 Hah!

    Posted by: Bandersnatch, Tough Love Version at February 17, 2016 08:46 AM (1xUj/)

    2 Neu thread!!!

    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 08:46 AM (xahWh)

    3 It worked willow!!

    Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 17, 2016 08:47 AM (oxcYa)

    4 More mermaid art to greet the new thread.

    http://www.ufunk.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/project-mermaids-22.jpg

    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 08:47 AM (xahWh)

    5 Roomy

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 08:47 AM (ohWrE)

    6 It worked Willow!

    Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2016 08:48 AM (B48dK)

    7 Clean up on last thread plz.
    723

    Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 17, 2016 08:48 AM (oxcYa)

    8 Thanks MH.

    Posted by: Golfman - Xenophobe Extrodinaire at February 17, 2016 08:49 AM (oxcYa)

    9 Willow to the rescue once again.
    I swear, that is the most useless superpower, but it's a superpower nonetheless.

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 08:49 AM (OUpHg)

    10 So I see Obama just endorsed Trump....

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 08:49 AM (eytER)

    11 Comment deleted.
    - Zuck

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (ohWrE)

    12 No EMT but straight to news dump?
    What?

    Morning, y'all.

    Chillier night than predicted.
    30° now.
    Frost on the grass.
    Frost on the pickup windshield.
    Blazing red orb on the horizon.
    Lone white-tail west of the house.
    Dog lamely gave chase, then stopped.
    Supposed to be going up to 60° today.
    Will probably be warmer.
    Coffee's cooking.
    I'll take it.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - ready to be ready at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (SqM8E)

    13 https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/

    Not sure if the hamsters will allow this link. Basically, our betters want to a backdoor into all information. Right to privacy isn't a thing any more.

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (KUaJL)

    14 Gee trying to burgle a home via the doggy door... wasn't that in a Home Alone movie?

    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (xahWh)

    15 Greetings fappers and fappees.

    #freshhell

    #WASTF

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (LUgeY)

    16 "Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country"

    Of course he does. Narcissists gotta stay on the center stage.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (NOIQH)

    17 I wish Hairy Reid was right and the GOP indeed would mount a nakedly partisan oppo to Obama.

    First time for everything, I suppose, but I'd rate the chances as low.

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (TxJGV)

    18 Is that BenK's muffled screams I hear? Ooh, nice thread, MH!.

    Can I say that, Facebook?

    Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2016 08:51 AM (yddCj)

    19 17 That fucker will plague us as long as he lives.

    Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2016 08:51 AM (B48dK)

    20
    HBO Homegrown The Counter Terror Dilemma


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5rJ2fz-qXI


    I want to bitch slap the families of the terrorists. Boo hoo! They didnt do anything! Conspiring to commit terrorism and encouraging others to commit terrorism is not only doing something, it is a crime. What a bunch of assholes.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 08:51 AM (iQIUe)

    21 Golfman it did!

    chi, i know right it can't be a special financial seer gift.
    Its just this 'possible' willowing, and i didn't even get a free t shirt with it.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 08:51 AM (9XzdI)

    22 Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country

    Hey, as long as you guys are paying, why not?

    FORE!!

    Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 17, 2016 08:52 AM (yddCj)

    23 "Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country"



    And there's our fresh hell for this morning and every morning hereafter.

    Oh.

    Joy.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 08:53 AM (LUgeY)

    24 Morning

    I got nothin

    Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 08:53 AM (3ZtZW)

    25 Global warming went into overdrive in January, leading to astounding temperature records. Yahoo news....

    February is heading into the hottest month since the age of the dinosaurs...

    Posted by: colin at February 17, 2016 08:53 AM (AwzXD)

    26 "Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country"

    This surprises you, why?

    Posted by: Jimmah! at February 17, 2016 08:54 AM (326rv)

    27 Barack Obama is a SCOAMT.

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 08:54 AM (kff5f)

    28 Burn it down.
    Scatter the stones.
    Salt the earth where it stood.

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 08:55 AM (kff5f)

    29 Put this in the last thread by mistake:

    So I watched that white privilege video while waiting at the airport yesterday in the wee hours of the morning. And while watching the video I looked around me at the gate. So we're waiting for a 6:30 flight, which means everyone there got up at 5am or earlier to get their to the airport in time.

    It was almost all business travelers. And of those business travelers, 80% were men and of that 80%, 90% were evil white men.

    These are the people flying off to places to make shit happen....whether sales getting done or engineers building shit or IT peeps doing their thing or whatever.

    THIS is why evil white men succeed. Because at 5am we're out of bed crawling our way to make the 6:30am flight to Denver. And I'll be damned if I'll be ashamed of my so-called privilige you fucking leftist fucks.

    Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 08:55 AM (O1R3L)

    30 "Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country"


    Which means the SOB will run his mouth for years to come. No genial and respectful retirement for him.

    Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 17, 2016 08:55 AM (g7Na/)

    31 I am thrilled that all you get to hear from me today.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 08:55 AM (659DL)

    32 Morning.. kinda..

    Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 17, 2016 08:55 AM (UpGcq)

    33 Swedish Feminists are Objectively Pro-Rape

    Previously we have seen how "Intersectional Feminism" leads to the "Feminist" position that protecting rapists is more "Feminist" (in a intersectional way) and thus more important than protecting women from Rape. In that article, the image that was originally used was photoshopped to change "refugees" to "rapists" and has since been updated with the original photo. The argument still stood, but perhaps the photoshopped picture was more honest than previously thought.

    More: http://politicalhat.com/?p=11097

    Posted by: The Political Hat at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (vBeA5)

    34 13 https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/
    ---------------------------------------------------------

    Wow. Flaming skull material right there.

    No Congressional action, no warrant, we just want it. And you will give it to us, because we are the government. Any government.

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (TxJGV)

    35 Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life Pubic Lice of This Country

    No reason. Just wanted to.

    Posted by: t-bird at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (yddCj)

    36 So an general found a spine. Most excellent, but in all probability, there goes his retirement!

    Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (wYnyS)

    37 25 Global warming went into overdrive in January, leading to astounding temperature records. Yahoo news....

    February is heading into the hottest month since the age of the dinosaurs...
    Posted by: colin at February 17, 2016 08:53 AM (AwzXD)

    _____

    Great. I hate shovelling snow.

    Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (O1R3L)

    38 Supposed to be 73 in DFW today. If this is Global Warming, I say "MOAR PLEZ!"

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (kff5f)

    39 Bandersnatch, does this one commercial remind you of anyone?

    https://youtu.be/x_zMhh4XthE?t=1m5s

    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (xahWh)

    40 Some enterprising group of individuals should buy a golf course for TFP to keep him off the national stage.

    Or just buy him an island or a small community to organize.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 08:57 AM (LUgeY)

    41 Thanks MH for providing the morning links, but a small favor: could you provide even one line better explaining the subject matter? Right now it's a string of punch lines for jokes we've never heard.

    Posted by: Kate58 at February 17, 2016 08:57 AM (oLZsm)

    42 14 Gee trying to burgle a home via the doggy door... wasn't that in a Home Alone movie?
    Posted by: Anna Puma
    ------------
    I once caught my neighbor's 6 year old trying to come in through the Tucker door (sized for a min-pin).
    He got his head stuck, so I stood there yelling at him and threatening to call the police. I think he peed himself before I could free him and kick his ass.

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 08:57 AM (OUpHg)

    43 Global warming went into overdrive in January, leading to astounding temperature records. Yahoo news....

    In related news,

    I seent a Yeti.

    Also a Sasquatch, a Nessie, and something that could have been an Ewok blogging about longbows.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 08:57 AM (659DL)

    44 I am thrilled that all you get to hear from me today.
    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)


    We're working on that. Anybody have a real name for this Mr. Ace O'Spades character?

    Posted by: Facebook at February 17, 2016 08:57 AM (yddCj)

    45 THIS is why evil white men succeed. Because at 5am
    we're out of bed crawling our way to make the 6:30am flight to Denver.
    And I'll be damned if I'll be ashamed of my so-called privilige you
    fucking leftist fucks.

    Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 08:55 AM (O1R3L)

    Before retiring, I did this way to many times, and often back on the plane to get home that night...long flights, long meetings and out the door and back to the airport, here and in Europe...glad its all over

    Posted by: colin at February 17, 2016 08:58 AM (AwzXD)

    46 it's wednesday.....already? damn......

    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 08:58 AM (0O7c5)

    47 Did anyone else think Obama's conference yesterday was a big, fat disaster?

    The man is depressed, and may be suicidal. He needs to retire asap.

    Posted by: Fritz at February 17, 2016 08:58 AM (UzPAd)

    48 My sister in Christ-Grammie might enjoy this story.

    A very poor Christian in Uganda still has the joy of the Lord-and a winning smile:

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 08:59 AM (w4NZ8)

    49 Obama and family need to maintain the jetsetting existance they have become accustomed to.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 08:59 AM (9XzdI)

    50 AllenG -

    I picked up a copy of your book the other day and I was pleased to leave a review this morning. Good job with it and I'm looking forward to reading the followup books.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 09:00 AM (eytER)

    51 Did anyone else think Obama's conference yesterday was a big, fat disaster?

    ....
    ....
    ....
    Wait for it.
    ....
    ....
    ....
    In many ways, this is the story of Obama.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:00 AM (659DL)

    52 Miserable worm Tim Cook says he'll fight order to crack SB terrorist's iPhone.

    Hey, Tim, what if he said nasty things about teh gheyz?

    Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 17, 2016 09:00 AM (oVJmc)

    53 it's wednesday.....already? damn......
    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 08:58 AM (0O7c5)


    My response is almost the opposite.

    "It's ONLY Wednesday? Dammit."

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:00 AM (kff5f)

    54 Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 08:57 AM (OUpHg)

    It's funny (after the fact) when it's a kid who probably wasn't trying to steal something. Some high on Meth 21 year old 90 pound woman it wouldn't be funny.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:01 AM (w4NZ8)

    55 The man is depressed, and may be suicidal.

    I'll help in any way I can.

    Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 17, 2016 09:01 AM (oVJmc)

    56 I picked up a copy of your book the other day and I was pleased to leave a review this morning. Good job with it and I'm looking forward to reading the followup books.

    Fantastic! I'm glad you liked it.

    I got an "AWE-SOME!" from my son on one of the fight scenes. I consider that a job well done.

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:01 AM (kff5f)

    57 Before retiring, I did this way to many times, and often back on the plane to get home that night...long flights, long meetings and out the door and back to the airport, here and in Europe...glad its all over
    Posted by: colin at February 17, 2016 08:58 AM (AwzXD)

    _____

    Those are actually the best trips, in and out the same day, nothing to pack, no bag to worry about.

    But my point is while the typical BLM agitator is waking up at noon, and wondering hey why am I not priviliged, evil white guys have been up for 7 or 8 hours already and still have another 8-10 hours until they're done for the day.

    Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 09:01 AM (O1R3L)

    58 >>THIS is why evil white men succeed.


    Also, because you don't equate debt with slavery?
    Singer 50 Cent on his bankruptcy:

    50 Cent is lashing out at some of the creditors in his bankruptcy
    case, telling the judge they are trying to set the clock more than 150
    years and gunning to make him their slave.

    Three of 50's biggest creditors - Sleek Audio, SunTrust Bank and
    Lastonia Leviston - have come up with a payback plan and are asking the
    judge's approval.

    50 has just responded, claiming the plan violates the 13th Amendment
    to the U.S. Constitution which bans slavery and involuntary servitude.
    He says the plan would create "a near-indefinite period of involuntary
    indentured servitude" where he has to work solely for the creditors'
    benefit.



    Debt is now racist, apparently.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:01 AM (NOIQH)

    59
    Nice job with the "continue reading" link. Psych.

    I guess I should be glad it wasn't a London Boys rickroll.

    Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 17, 2016 09:02 AM (smLWk)

    60 Turning and turning in a widening gyre...

    Posted by: The Falconer at February 17, 2016 09:02 AM (vBeA5)

    61 MTF. well look it will only be used to find terrorists.
    the fact that any one can now find themselves on the list means nothing.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:02 AM (9XzdI)

    62 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 08:59 AM (w4NZ

    Whoops; Forgot the link:

    http://preview.tinyurl.com/z62p7vs

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:02 AM (w4NZ8)

    63 "I'll help in any way I can."


    You are a giver.

    Posted by: Ricardo Kill at February 17, 2016 09:02 AM (bVoKQ)

    64
    Debt is now racist, apparently.


    Responsibility is racis'.

    Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (oVJmc)

    65 Morning PG, won $1 on the Mega Millions last night. That is good right?

    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (xahWh)

    66 Miserable worm Tim Cook says he'll fight order to crack SB terrorist's iPhone.

    For those keeping score:

    THIS is the kind of surveillance/intel gathering exercise I support. Narrow and specific.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (659DL)

    67 Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country

    Hey! Just like herpes!

    Posted by: Joey 'Two Scoops' Biden at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (JA5Qu)

    68
    It's almost March already?

    The only upside is that NASCAR kicks off this Sunday and Spring Training gets under way in a few days.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (LUgeY)

    69 Chi: I swear, that is the most useless superpower...

    Sez you

    Posted by: Bouncing Boy of the Legion of Super-Heroes (Auxiliary) at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (SqM8E)

    70 Bandersnatch, does this one commercial remind you of anyone?

    Um....no? There is physical adroitness on display.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch, Tough Love Version at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (1xUj/)

    71 Have a good day, Horde. I am off to the salt mines.

    Posted by: redbanzai at February 17, 2016 09:04 AM (NPofj)

    72 >>The man is depressed, and may be suicidal. He needs to retire asap.

    And high, and really, really sick of his job (longest professional stint he's ever had).

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:04 AM (NOIQH)

    73 Coworker of mine who sends out the daily schedule each morning has been celebrating black history month. This is what was sent out today. And I quote

    "President Barack Obama signed into law a $787 billion Economic Stimulus Package, his first major legislative victory, on this date in 2009."

    This is why I'm glad I get to work at home.

    Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at February 17, 2016 09:04 AM (AJeMv)

    74 Not sure if the hamsters will allow this link. Basically, our betters want to a backdoor into all information. Right to privacy isn't a thing any more.

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 08:50 AM (KUaJL)

    Is there any reason they can't just open up THIS phone and not provide a back door into all phones.

    Posted by: Timon at February 17, 2016 09:05 AM (KSonr)

    75 Also, because you don't equate debt with slavery?

    Interestingly, for much of human history, debt was considered the equivalent of slavery. There are several verses in the Bible (and in secular literature) that basically boil down to "the debtor is the slave of the lender."

    Of course, Mr. Half-Dollar is missing one vital point - his debt is voluntary, and paying it back is "justice" not "indentured servitude."

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:05 AM (kff5f)

    76 LOL @ Bandersnatch

    You totally grok'd it.

    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 09:05 AM (xahWh)

    77 Morning PG, won $1 on the Mega Millions last night. That is good right?

    I think something a little more Price-Is-Right screamy is in order.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:05 AM (659DL)

    78 Wow. Flaming skull material right there.

    No Congressional action, no warrant, we just want it. And you will give it to us, because we are the government. Any government.
    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 08:56 AM (TxJGV)

    Uh, in this case, not so much. First the gov't actually has permission to get at the data on the phone from the owner, the county agency the muzzie was working for. Second, Apple seems to be using this more for publicity than answering the request. It is apparent that Apple has the capability of cracking the encryption but is concerned the Feds will then use it in other situations. So, why not tell the Feds, they will crack it at the location with a Fed representative present and then turn the data over to the Feds. The Feds don't get the software, the Feds get the data, and it's all done legally.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 09:05 AM (LTDSy)

    79 The man is depressed, and may be suicidal. He needs to retire asap.

    Which story or comment is this in reference to?

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:05 AM (w4NZ8)

    80 It's funny (after the fact) when it's a kid who probably wasn't trying to steal something. Some high on Meth 21 year old 90 pound woman it wouldn't be funny.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke
    ------------
    Oh, yes. It was hilarious. He was just curious. Probably following the dog...
    He & his little sister had full permission to come over to the backyard any time to play.

    How are you this fine morning?

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:06 AM (OUpHg)

    81 >>Did anyone else think Obama's conference yesterday was a big, fat disaster?

    He just finished hosting a conference of Southeast Asian countries and during that conference it was discovered that China had installed missile systems on some of the new manmade island in the South China Sea further threatening trade and free access to the area.

    I think that qualifies as a disaster.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2016 09:06 AM (/tuJf)

    82 If global warming is so bad Yahoo really should shut down their servers.For the planet.

    Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2016 09:06 AM (B48dK)

    83 a $787 billion Economic Stimulus Package

    Things you don't hear much anymore: "Shovel Ready"

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:07 AM (659DL)

    84 Kate58: ...provide even one line better explaining the subject matter? Right now it's a string of punch lines for jokes we've never heard....

    Glad for hovering revealing the URL which sometimes helps.

    Glad I'm not on the cell where I don't have that.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - technically squeaking at February 17, 2016 09:07 AM (SqM8E)

    85 Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:06 AM (OUpHg)

    Sleepy. Thx for asking. How are you?

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:08 AM (w4NZ8)

    86 TFG said of Trump (approximate quote) "Being Preezy is a serious job, not like being a talk show host"; sez the man who's appeared on every talk show in the US, many of them multiple times.

    Sez the man that plays golf every other day.

    Sez the man that takes pricey vacas on our dime every other month.

    Sez the man that has worn out AF-1 raising funds for hisself and his co-conspirators.

    Sez the man that draws red lines and then trips over them.


    Community organizer = serious job

    Yeah, whatevah.

    Posted by: GnuBreed at February 17, 2016 09:08 AM (gyKtp)

    87 Things you don't hear much anymore: "Shovel Ready"


    "Jobs created or saved." That one should've been laughed off.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 09:08 AM (LUgeY)

    88 So Trump probably got thumped for going over the top on "Bush Lied", and some poll(s) dropped him a few or as much as nine, though it may make him stronger with the middle/left for the general. He walked it back some after that, but seems to hold a real anger about going to war in Iraq and helping the Saudis.

    It would seem the Saudi princes are the ME's one percenters, and they pass money down, but many feel left out. And the oil rich countries aren't taking in the Syrian Muslims, or any Muslims. Trump would be better off directing the anger at the Muslim invasion of Europe, and softening the Bush Lied part.

    During the debates of 2004 Kerry blamed Bush and Bush said "you saw the same intel I did". Of course the emotion on the left in time became as strong about the misinformation on nukes, as the emotion in defense of the war was/is on the right. Trump overplayed it but changed the Overton Window to "the unsafe Iraq War" versus the "My Brother Kept us Safe, we need more Bush" Jeb view.

    Posted by: Illiniwek at February 17, 2016 09:08 AM (5Gpe2)

    89 Spring Training gets under way in a few days.

    Pitchers and catchers report today.

    In related news, the Braves will somehow lose a game today.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:08 AM (659DL)

    90 He just finished hosting a conference of Southeast Asian countries and during that conference it was discovered that China had installed missile systems on some of the new manmade island in the South China Sea further threatening trade and free access to the area.

    I think that qualifies as a disaster.
    Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2016 09:06 AM (/tuJf)

    ____

    We STRONGLY disagree

    Posted by: MSM at February 17, 2016 09:09 AM (O1R3L)

    91 Wait a minute, I'm still reading.

    Jeeze

    Posted by: Alexius Lessbottom at February 17, 2016 09:09 AM (BVDc5)

    92 If global warming is so bad Yahoo really should shut down their servers.

    From what I read that may be happening soon anyway.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:10 AM (659DL)

    93 "Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party through your use of Voice Recognition," Samsung posted in its SmartTV privacy policy.

    this reminds me of a video of Patreus on a video that they would be able to see in every household soon speaking of a dishwasher or something.
    er like a smart TV?

    so well a sign of the times and govt thoughts on it in plain sight.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:10 AM (9XzdI)

    94 Obama is too dense to even see the irony in what he said.

    Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2016 09:10 AM (B48dK)

    95
    If global warming is so bad Yahoo really should shut down their servers.For the planet.

    Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2016 09:06 AM (B48dK)









    But they have air conditioners in the server rooms to cool them down!

    Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 17, 2016 09:10 AM (smLWk)

    96 >>Interestingly, for much of human history, debt was considered the equivalent of slavery.

    Oh, you're right! Somehow I don't think they were referring to the level of debt 50 Cent ($17 million) and Kanye ($50 million) have amassed, though.
    They were living like royalty using money they didn't have.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:10 AM (NOIQH)

    97 Reposted from late on the ONT for those who are interested and may have missed it there.

    From this date in 1944- Anzio

    Feb 17, 1944 - The EZ Dog Journal
    This is war as you hear about it. Gerry pushed more and more infantry against 1st Br and 45th. Some tanks. Artillery fire everywhere. Infiltration parties penetrated our line in several places but generally our line held. No great concern.



    1st Br = British 1st Infantry Division
    45th = U.S. 45th Infantry Division

    Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:11 AM (NeFrd)

    98
    Sez the man that plays golf every other day.

    Sez the man that takes pricey vacas on our dime every other month.

    Sez the man that has worn out AF-1 raising funds for hisself and his co-conspirators.

    Sez the man that draws red lines and then trips over them.


    Sez the guy doing youtube and comedy interviews, late night shows, and pop culture appearances.

    Posted by: Pappy O'Daniel at February 17, 2016 09:11 AM (oVJmc)

    99 65
    Morning PG, won $1 on the Mega Millions last night. That is good right?


    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (xahWh)

    wonderful!!! you won the LOTTERY!!!!! party at anna's!!!!

    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 09:12 AM (0O7c5)

    100 >>Obama is too dense to even see the irony in what he said.

    I think Obama knows exactly what he's saying, and the hypocrisy gives him extra pleasure. He lives to troll; community activist gotta keep stirring the pot.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:12 AM (NOIQH)

    101 ok that comment really was awful.
    i'll try to do better.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:12 AM (9XzdI)

    102 Sniff sniff??? What's that smell?

    Oh it's the RINO Leadership starting to cave already.

    Oh and morning all.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:12 AM (DUoqb)

    103
    Poll round-up:

    Nevada Republican Presidential CNN/ORC Trump +26
    Cubans tied for 2nd


    South Carolina Republican Presidential CNN/ORC Trump +16

    South Carolina Republican Presidential ARG! Trump +17
    Trio in 2nd


    Virginia Republican Presidential CN Uni Trump +6
    Cubans tied for 2nd

    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (kdS6q)

    104 my shovels ready.....just sayin'.......

    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (0O7c5)

    105 I think Obama knows exactly what he's saying, and the hypocrisy gives him extra pleasure. He lives to troll; community activist gotta keep stirring the pot.
    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:12 AM (NOIQH)

    exactly!

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (DUoqb)

    106 If the Republicans even THINK of caving on this SCOTUS pick....

    Posted by: Breitbart at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (ovP/t)

    107 If the Republicans even THINK of caving on this SCOTUS pick....
    Posted by: Breitbart

    We can assure you that no thinking will be involved.

    Posted by: The Stupid Party at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (326rv)

    108 Lizzy, indeed He's the most prolific/active troll.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:14 AM (9XzdI)

    109

    Good morning!

    Thankfully it looks as though South Carolina voters are poised to dismiss the Ineligible Ted Cruz.

    Hip Hip Hooray!




    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:14 AM (zhLKc)

    110 If the Republicans even THINK of caving on this SCOTUS pick....

    That'll be par for the course.

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:14 AM (kff5f)

    111 so well a sign of the times and govt thoughts on it in plain sight.

    They've been wanting this illegal surveillance for quite a while now. Back when I was in HS, some guy gave us a presentation about technology saying they were going to put a sensor inside every house to detect illegal drugs. Exactly one student called him out on it and unfortunately it wasn't me.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 09:14 AM (LUgeY)

    112 If the Republicans even THINK of caving on this SCOTUS pick....


    Everything's a deal, right?

    I will take President Bernie for Associate Justice Cruz.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch, Tough Love Version at February 17, 2016 09:14 AM (1xUj/)

    113 Poll round-up:

    Nevada Republican Presidential CNN/ORC Trump +26
    Cubans tied for 2nd


    South Carolina Republican Presidential CNN/ORC Trump +16

    South Carolina Republican Presidential ARG! Trump +17
    Trio in 2nd


    Virginia Republican Presidential CN Uni Trump +6
    Cubans tied for 2nd
    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (kdS6q)

    So lemma get this:

    We have a code pink conspiracy nut running against a lying stroke victim or a commie? And with, asset's looking 5 commies on the Supreme Court?

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up glue sniffing

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:15 AM (DUoqb)

    114 106 If the Republicans even THINK of caving on this SCOTUS pick....
    Posted by: Breitbart at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (ovP/t)

    ____

    Even think of it? Dude it's a done deal. The Bitch and Grassy already caved yesterday. The rest is just preocedural. SCOTUS Loretta Lynch will be confirmed by May. Gua-ron-teed.

    Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 09:15 AM (O1R3L)

    115 I hope after Trump supposedly gets this sewn up he starts attacking Hillary-his former friend -or Bernie and not President Bush.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:15 AM (w4NZ8)

    116 103 Are Mario and Ted any good at rolling cigars?

    Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2016 09:15 AM (B48dK)

    117 Obama is too lazy to do anything of significance after he is out of office. That's been his MO since he was a kid.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 09:15 AM (1g+wZ)

    118 So lemma get this:

    We have a code pink conspiracy nut running against a lying stroke victim or a commie? And with, asset's looking 5 commies on the Supreme Court?

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to give up glue sniffing
    Posted by: Nevergiveup

    You still have us......

    Posted by: The Stupid Party at February 17, 2016 09:16 AM (326rv)

    119 If the Republicans even THINK of caving on this SCOTUS pick....

    It will be well and truly over. And I won't be remotely civil about it.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:16 AM (659DL)

    120 Trump is an asshole.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:16 AM (xWW96)

    121 There is a transexual on FOX right now...oh wait sorry I am wrong it's only Miss Lindsey

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:16 AM (DUoqb)

    122 And I won't be remotely civil about it.
    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:16 AM (659DL)

    Your already being to fuckin civil about this cock sucking shit

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:17 AM (DUoqb)

    123 Sleepy. Thx for asking. How are you?
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke
    ----------------
    Hungry. And slightly hungover. I have my coffee, but am too lazy to fry a couple eggs...
    Maybe I'll have some toast & marmalade?

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:17 AM (OUpHg)

    124 Backwards, several years ago i would have believed this was tin foil hat stuff.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:17 AM (9XzdI)

    125 Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone and none of his support would wane. People aren't voting for Trump the man. They are voting for Trump the idea....the idea of telling the establishment to fuck off. So yeah he can say Bush helped Osama plant the TNT in WTC and it doesn't matter.

    Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 09:17 AM (O1R3L)

    126 Oh, yeah, just remembered. Did another mindful video webwork last night... a viral 5 views so far...

    Hillary's Most Memorable Moments (2:14)
    No matter how much you may want to forget them!
    http://bit.ly/hak-hak-hak-arf

    URL name should give you a clue to the content. Wait around for the punchline.

    Comments open (no Facebook required) on the mindful webpage. Also PayPal donation button which theoretically works.

    If you'd rather see it on YouTube (can't imagine why!)
    https://youtu.be/-8Vbayd9wMk

    Posted by: mindful webworker - YouTuberular at February 17, 2016 09:18 AM (SqM8E)

    127
    maddog @ #120,

    Trump is ELIGIBLE.


    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:18 AM (zhLKc)

    128 G-D it's another one of those alternate days when I actually agree with a lot of what "It" says . Sigh

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:18 AM (DUoqb)

    129 Maybe I'll have some toast marmalade?

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:17 AM (OUpHg)
    fry the eggs and make toast and marmalade

    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 09:19 AM (0O7c5)

    130 If they cave on SCOTUS there needs to be a huge march on Washington. It's long overdue anyway.
    problem is nobody want to organize it and I don't of Facebook. :^)

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:19 AM (w4NZ8)

    131
    my shovels ready.....just sayin'.......

    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (0O7c5)








    Who's got the lime?

    Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 17, 2016 09:19 AM (smLWk)

    132 Christ the trump fan boy is up early

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:19 AM (DUoqb)

    133 Regarding that site that shunned its base yesterday, if I don't have Facebook, I can't see the comments? Is that it. Because it's not just the front page, I don't see any comments when clicking on any of their stories either. Nor in the headlines.

    Posted by: Dead Parrot Society at February 17, 2016 09:20 AM (AJeMv)

    134 "don't do"

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:20 AM (w4NZ8)

    135 117 Obama is too lazy to do anything of significance after he is out of office. That's been his MO since he was a kid.
    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 09:15 AM (1g+wZ)

    _____

    The fuck? Why do people keep saying this shit. Here's is just a short list of things this lazy guy has done...

    - nationalized health care
    - amnesty to millions while effectively opening up the border to anyone anytime
    - killed the coal industry
    - nationalized the auto industry
    - nationalized student loans
    - decimated the military
    - has given free rein to criminals to do as they wish knowing the police is too afraid to fight back
    - doubled the national debt

    But yeah, he's such a lazy fuck.

    Come on.

    Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 09:20 AM (O1R3L)

    136 132 Christ the trump fan boy is up early
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:19 AM (DUoqb)


    The crazy, it never sleeps....

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:20 AM (xWW96)

    137
    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday agreed with Tourism Minister Yariv Levins plan to boost Eilat as a tourist destination by building up to four casinos.

    Sigh. Not sure what i think about this. I guess.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:21 AM (DUoqb)

    138 *eyebrows go up as the PK meter goes crazy*

    Okay, time to meander. Catch everyone later.

    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 09:21 AM (xahWh)

    139 Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 09:05 AM (LTDSy)

    From my reading, it's sounds like that's what they already did. The FBI isn't asking for the information on that particular device. They're asking for a way to get at any device they want, without going through with getting a warrant or Apple.

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 09:21 AM (KUaJL)

    140 Posted by: Trump Super Fan
    ----------------

    Dude, it's too early for your birther nonsense. Can you please go away for an hour or two?

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:21 AM (OUpHg)

    141 Zero is a classic example of the category Stupid and Industrious.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:22 AM (xWW96)

    142 Ever find yourself yelling at your TV?

    Yeah. You may wish to rethink that.

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231122

    Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2016 09:22 AM (zoehZ)

    143 Strange new respect from me for Tim Cook.

    Mr. Cook has determined that Apple will fight the order by the court to provide assistance to the FBI trying to unlock the San Berdoo jihadis phone.

    Says it would have to create a program that would be a back door that could then be used on any iPhone. Says that the FBI could not keep the program secret (heh) and that once done could not be undone. As it is he revealed the manner of how to do it. Which entails faking the operating system and then getting the phone to download it as an upgrade.

    (see how dangerous those automatic upgrades can be? Microsoft?)

    EFF has chimed in and says they will be filing an amicus brief with Apple.

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 17, 2016 09:22 AM (Xo1Rt)

    144 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:19 AM (DUoqb)

    Well, I'd like to think that Christ is not really a "fanboy" of Trump or any other politician. ;^)

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:22 AM (w4NZ8)

    145

    Moo Moo @ #125,

    Initially that's why I liked Trump. I just wanted to tell the Establishment to go fuck itself.

    But now I and tons of other Trump Supporters believe in Trump the man.
    He doesn't have to perfectly jive with my conservative views on every single issue.
    He's the most conservative on the most important issue: Illegal Immigration.

    All that 'the Bush administration lied about WMD' nonsense is Trump setting up his campaign to make a play for independents in the general election.

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:23 AM (zhLKc)

    146 I am sorry APPLE, this is national security by a known terrorist. Throw Tim Cook in Jail till he complies.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:23 AM (DUoqb)

    147 Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Wednesday agreed with Tourism Minister Yariv Levins plan to boost Eilat as a tourist destination by building up to four casinos.

    Sigh. Not sure what i think about this. I guess.


    You'll adjust. They'll just deal Blackjack from right to left.

    HI-YO!!!!!

    THANK YOU, I'LL BE HERE ALL WEEK!!!! TIP THE COBS!!!! EXCEPT FOR DAVE IN TEXAS, HE JUST SPENDS IT ON BENGAY AND HOOKERS.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:23 AM (659DL)

    148 Oh it's the RINO Leadership starting to cave already.
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:12 AM


    Tell me you expected something else, NGU.

    No, don't do that. I know you're not a drooling numbskull.

    As soon as the Big Brave Talk came out of teh Bitch's mouth, I knew they'd find a way to screw things up. It's what they do.

    Any intelligent human would have let Choom Boy make his pick, run through the process, and then told him to pound sand. But intelligent humans are in short supply in D.C.

    Posted by: MrScribbler at February 17, 2016 09:23 AM (JPmdJ)

    149
    Christ the trump fan boy is up early

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:19 AM (DUoqb)

    Jesus is a Trumpster?

    HE'S BACK!!11!!!!

    Cruz just can't get a break can he.

    Our savior comes back early to campaign for Trump.

    Hah!

    Posted by: Bitter Clinger and All That at February 17, 2016 09:24 AM (Xo1Rt)

    150 There's an ad out today with Eric Gardner's daughter spending a full minute talking about her dad, the last about five seconds she endorses Bernie.

    So it's going to be Trump vs. Bernie.

    Posted by: Bandersnatch, Tough Love Version at February 17, 2016 09:24 AM (1xUj/)

    151 All that 'the Bush administration lied about WMD' nonsense is Trump setting up his campaign to make a play for independents in the general election.

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan

    Geepers,

    Glad that you're so wired in to da Trump that you know his plans, and not just raving fanboy shit.

    Posted by: The Stupid Party at February 17, 2016 09:24 AM (326rv)

    152 >>trange new respect from me for Tim Cook.
    Mr. Cook has determined
    that Apple will fight the order by the court to provide assistance to
    the FBI trying to unlock the San Berdoo jihadis phone.


    I wish I could believe he'd take a similar stand if the request had been for, say, the guy who made the undercover PP videos. But after what he said about the mid-west pizza place who said that they (hypothetically) would not cater a SSM event, I just can't.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:25 AM (NOIQH)

    153 Know what's amazing? Trump is just striving for independents with his truther bullshit, but he's really, really honest about Immigration and telling the establishment to go fuck itself. Boggles the mind.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:25 AM (xWW96)

    154 Here's is just a short list of things this lazy guy has done...


    He had an awful lot of help from the Communist sappers carefully placed in our Legislative, Judicial, Military, Industry and Education sectors. One might say it's a pre-arranged plan.

    Posted by: Joey 'Floop the Pig' Biden at February 17, 2016 09:25 AM (JA5Qu)

    155 "...Ineligible Ted Cruz."

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:14 AM (zhLKc)

    You are entitled to your own opinions, but not to your own facts.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (Zu3d9)

    156 i think it's more useful to 'talk up your preferred candidate' then insult someone for their choice.

    at least here with ace's recent desired blog etiquette sidebar rules

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (9XzdI)

    157 Well, I'd like to think that Christ is not really a "fanboy" of Trump or any other politician. ;^)

    Heh.

    So I wasn't the only one playing with the idea of commas at different places in that post?

    Posted by: Bandersnatch, Tough Love Version at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (1xUj/)

    158 I think Apple has a deal with the .gov. Apple gets to say all these things about privacy and people are like "hey! I'll go to Apple, they'll protect my privacy," when in reality Apple will secretly give the .gov whatever it wants. Apple does after all supply iphones to certain agencies.

    Posted by: Mainah at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (659DL)

    159 Tell me you expected something else, NGU.

    No, don't do that. I know you're not a drooling numbskull.

    As soon as the Big Brave Talk came out of teh Bitch's mouth, I knew they'd find a way to screw things up. It's what they do.

    Any intelligent human would have let Choom Boy make his pick, run through the process, and then told him to pound sand. But intelligent humans are in short supply in D.C.
    Posted by: MrScribbler at February 17, 2016 09:23 AM (JPmdJ)

    yes I agree they should have not said anything at first and just keep voting down nominees, but as we all know the RINOs have no balls and any vote would likely result in 5-4 liberal court. And no I am not surprised they caved. THIS quick, yeah kinda.

    Ever notice a left wing judge NEVER moves to the right but a supposed "Right" wing Judge moves left many times? Pardon me while I wipe my Souter

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (DUoqb)

    160 I've got one, and potentially 2 phone-screen interviews today. I have got to get out of this soul-sucking job.

    Thoughts and prayers from the Horde would be appreciated.

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (kff5f)

    161 Charles Cooke makes an excellent point: as bad as Congressional "conservatives" have been, and as shocking as Roberts saving ObamaCare twice was, it's not all defeats, all the time for us. We've won back second amendment rights, and some fourth amendment cases as well. We've seen the GOP, as wimpy as it is, take the House and Senate- entirely because of the Tea Party - and an unprecedented number of state houses and governorships.

    The Democrats are reduced to running two really old candidates, and you know why? Because they literally have no one else. Everyone else lost their lower office election over the last seven years.

    http://bit.ly/24a1Qzi

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (TxJGV)

    162 Actually, I think it would be great if Thomas Sowell were drafted as a candidate.

    I can remember elections with close to this much vitriol. But never from candidates and groups supporting them, from the same party.

    Every single one of these candidates have been trashed to the point where every one of them looks unelectable.

    I can't for the life of me see how this election can turn out well - - for the country. It may work out well for the party, or for the candidates, but the country...

    stick a fork in it.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 09:27 AM (4ng05)

    163 I don't think Trump will do a darn thing about immigration; I think Trump is talk. If he gets power he'll do whatever he wants-some of may be good, some not and every day I have less enthusiasm about pulling that lever for him. Less enthusiasm than I felt for McCain

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:27 AM (w4NZ8)

    164 Apple does after all supply iphones to certain CHINESE agencies.

    FTFY

    Methinks Tim Cook is just another lefty hypocrite.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:28 AM (659DL)

    165 This terrorist, Ehsanul Sadequee, is now in a medium security prison and is due for release in 2021. Apparently, he was sentenced to only 15 years. But the kicker is that the BOP Inmate locator lists his race as Asian. We've gone all limey. The guy is from Bangladesh.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 09:28 AM (iQIUe)

    166 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:11 AM (NeFrd)

    "No great concern."

    Amazing men.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:28 AM (Zu3d9)

    167 Methinks Tim Cook is just another lefty hypocrite.
    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:28 AM (659DL)

    He is a huge lefty and also plays for the other team.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:28 AM (DUoqb)

    168 >>i think it's more useful to 'talk up your preferred candidate' then insult someone for their choice.



    at least here with ace's recent desired blog etiquette sidebar rules


    Word!
    I believe he phrased something like: "You're an a$$hole" isn't an argument.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:28 AM (NOIQH)

    169 hadn't we already learned the tech companies put backdoors into the tech gadgets a couple of years ago?
    and the govt was demanding the keys?

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:29 AM (9XzdI)

    170
    Chi @ #140,

    Apparently you (and lots of others) are clueless about the "Birther" conspiracy concept.

    You see, the Birther conspiracy theory regarding Obama was that there was a conspiracy to cover up that Obama had been born in a foreign land because - as we all knew - this would have disqualified him from being president.
    That's why it was such a push to get Obama to release his birth certificate.
    No official proof was ever uncovered that Obama was born in a foreign land.

    In the case of the Ineligible Ted Cruz: THE FACT THAT HE WAS BORN IN A FOREIGN LAND IS WELL KNOWN.

    Do you see the difference?






    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:29 AM (zhLKc)

    171 He is a huge lefty and also plays for the other team.

    Well, he's an Auburn grad, so....

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:29 AM (659DL)

    172 But intelligent humans are in short supply in D.C.

    Posted by: MrScribbler at February 17, 2016 09:23 AM (JPmdJ)

    Even shorter supply within the GOP Beltway Establishment!

    Posted by: Hrothgar at February 17, 2016 09:29 AM (wYnyS)

    173 They also interview Hassan's cousin who complained that Fox News was lying about his cousin and that he was a good guy. Then a LE friend called him up and said that they were coming to interview him. Well, yeah. You're out there shilling for your cousin after he committed mass murder.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 09:30 AM (iQIUe)

    174 Pitchers and catchers report today.

    Been reporting for a while! IFYKWIMAITTYD

    Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at February 17, 2016 09:30 AM (oFSUK)

    175 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:29 AM (zhLKc)

    Nobody cares what you say. We've heard all it before. See the thing is, your boring and repetitive.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:30 AM (DUoqb)

    176 Lizzy, i guess 'we are all Breitbart', and only read the comments!


    i want my
    i want my
    i want my
    atc

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:30 AM (9XzdI)

    177 Some people, despite their ability to post intertube ravings, apparently cannot read the text of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (659DL)

    178 Dang it!

    "Is this game, set, match for Trump?" (CNN)

    Even though I have javascript off and plug-ins off, there's an autoplay on that CNN page. Didn't start 'til I went to that tab, and then a woman starts blabbering at top volume. How do they even do that?

    Hit mute as fast as I could. Milady apparently was not awakened by it, fortunately.

    New policy: I will henceforth never click on a CNN link.

    And I wonder what the story was. But not much.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - ban autoplay at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (SqM8E)

    179 I see where China is putting their nukes on hair trigger status making accidental nuclear war more likely (Popular Mechanics article)

    Of course Obama probably doesn't read Popular Mechanics, so how would he know. Of course if one of his aides reads the article and breaks it to him, I suppose at that point he can blame Bush.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (4ng05)

    180 Pitchers and catchers report today.


    And my team is still Tied for First Place!

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (DUoqb)

    181 AllenG,
    I think it would stand you in good stead if you started the interviews with your standard phrase.
    Burn, salt, scatter...

    And, of course, don't wear pants.

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (OUpHg)

    182 Block any SC nominee and end up losing the Senate for a couple years, or allow somebody of Obama's philosophy to sit on the court for a lifetime? Pretty easy answer for me.

    Posted by: Mainah at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (659DL)

    183 We've won back second amendment rights, and some fourth amendment cases
    as well. We've seen the GOP, as wimpy as it is, take the House and
    Senate- entirely because of the Tea Party - and an unprecedented number
    of state houses and governorships.



    but but but I thought they were all playing for the same team.........

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (lVU49)

    184 Dildo @ #155,

    The fact is that the Ineligible Ted Cruz was born in a foreign land under foreign laws.
    - Thus DISQUALIFYING him from serving as president of the US.

    That's a stubborn fact that I know you'd like to WISH away.

    ;-)

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (zhLKc)

    185 Why haven't we seen campaign ads of Hillary Clinton jogging down to the local Mickey Deez for her daily coffee? Is her DARPA-designed exoskeletal walker up on blocks again?

    Posted by: Fritz at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (UzPAd)

    186 I see where China is putting their nukes on hair trigger status making accidental nuclear war more likely (Popular Mechanics article)


    ???
    So what is the bad News. Oh sweet SMOD we bow at your feet

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (DUoqb)

    187 trump is also:

    accessible, collapsible, compatible, convertible, credible, defensible, destructible, digestible, divisible, forcible, gullible, incredible, permissible, possible and reversible

    None of which would necessarily make him a good president or a protector of our constitutional rights

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (q2o38)

    188 Trump's embrace of Bush Derangement Syndrome has knocked my support for his campaign down below Cruz. In my not so humble opinion, he really shat the bed there, and it'll take some major betrayal or insanity by Cruz to even make me think of reassessing it. I'd still take Trump over Rubio, but then again, I'd consider voting for the King in Yellow - the original He Who Must Not be Named - over any Establishment candidate.

    Posted by: Cato the Rebel Without a Party at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (HalrA)

    189 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:27 AM (w4NZ

    I agree.

    When I was a wee lad, I worked in NYC for a landscaping company. They did a fair amount of work for Trump, and he stiffed them for the last several months of work.

    Not because of shoddy work (the stuff was amazing), but because Trump knew that he would prevail. More lawyers, more time.....

    And we weren't the only ones. NYC contractors are very careful about doing anything for Trump.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)

    190 So we're going to be this crazy for the next 9 months? I think I'll take up religion just to distract me.

    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (RD7QR)

    191 Methinks Tim Cook is just another lefty hypocrite.


    He could just point out that the only thing the feds can legally get from the SB killer muzzie's phone is information relative to that case and that case alone.

    He could also point out that we all have an inalienable right to privacy while he's at it and for the feds to want any type of blanket surveillance is blatantly unconstitutional and therefore illegal.

    I could also have a pony.

    Of those three possibilities, the third one seems far more plausible than the first two.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (LUgeY)

    192 Block any SC nominee and end up losing the Senate for a couple years, or allow somebody of Obama's philosophy to sit on the court for a lifetime? Pretty easy answer for me.
    Posted by: Mainah at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (659DL)

    Stop with this crap about losing the Senate over this issue.. It SHOULD be a winning issue for us. It's about time we learn how to play the game

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (DUoqb)

    193 Block any SC nominee and end up losing the Senate for a couple years

    Ummm, no. That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

    If they fold, they lose the Senate, the Presidency, and the Court.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (659DL)

    194 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (zhLKc)

    so go ahead, have your hero file a lawsuit. when it is smacked down within 2 hours, I am sure you will be right back here shilling for trump about something else

    so what is the point?

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (lVU49)

    195 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (zhLKc)

    His mother is an American citizen.

    That is all that is required.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (Zu3d9)

    196 Morning PG, won $1 on the Mega Millions last night. That is good right?




    Posted by: Anna Puma at February 17, 2016 09:03 AM (xahWh)

    Don't forget the tax man! I have played the NY lottery for 30 years (by yearly subscription) and usually win $1 a year, on a $100 investment...still waiting for the big one....

    Posted by: colin at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (AwzXD)

    197 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:27 AM (w4NZ

    Early voting starts in Texas today. That means all the major candidates are on the ballot, and I would not be surprised if Cruz won (I won't be surprised if he doesn't, either, because Texans in general are pissed about the border, and Trump is the only one willing to say the things -whether or not he believes them- that we want said).

    I think if Trump wins in SC, then the Establishment will "encourage" everyone but Rubio to get out of the race and throw their support (and any won delegates) to him. I further believe (because the only group the Establishment ever seems to be willing to fight is the grass-roots), that they will then do two things: 1) throw out every bit of dirt they possibly can against both Trump and Cruz to make them "unelectable" and 2) play for a brokered convention.

    If they succeed in those two things, then the brokered convention will select Rubio or even Jeb (most likely). And at that point Mr. Trump will have succeeded in doing what I want him to do - destroy the Republican Party so that something new can take its place.

    Even if he wins outright, Trump will likely cause the Republican Establishment to destroy itself. I'm willing to put up with 4, or even 8, years of Trump in order to have at least a chance at a party that actually represents me.

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:34 AM (kff5f)

    198 190
    So we're going to be this crazy for the next 9 months? I think I'll take up religion just to distract me.

    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (RD7QR)


    yup.
    if Trump wins the nomination, then I am through. I'm re-registering as Libertarian

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:34 AM (lVU49)

    199 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (zhLKc)

    Why are you worried, TSF. Dandy Donald is supposedly running away with this thing? No threat from Cruz then.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:34 AM (w4NZ8)

    200 So what is the bad News. Oh sweet SMOD we bow at your feet
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (DUoqb)

    smod is a no show, it just enjoys watching our building anxiety.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:34 AM (9XzdI)

    201 182 Block any SC nominee and end up losing the Senate for a couple years, or allow somebody of Obama's philosophy to sit on the court for a lifetime? Pretty easy answer for me.

    Posted by: Mainah at February 17, 2016 09:31 AM (659DL)


    _________________________________________________

    The only way Republicans lose the Senate is if Shillary or Teh Bern wins the presidency. And they both look awful right now.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:34 AM (rsudF)

    202 And my team is still Tied for First Place!

    Posted by: Nevergiveup


    ****


    Lucky you. My team is tied for last place.

    Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:34 AM (NeFrd)

    203
    What the girls will be talking about in the other room, while you're trying to watch the NCAA Tourney:

    I tried the $65 per day soup diet that's all the rage among the wealthy and elite

    "Souping is the new juicing," The New York Times declared.

    http://tinyurl.com/gwg34pl

    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (kdS6q)

    204 Hey, _Dave_ (TSF),
    The LaFayette river isn't too far from you - why don't you take a long walk off a short pier, man?

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (OUpHg)

    205 Stop with this crap about losing the Senate over this issue.. It SHOULD be a winning issue for us. It's about time we learn how to play the game
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (DUoqb)


    Yeah, sounded like more "not the hill to die on" GOPe bullshit.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (xWW96)

    206 The presidency has gone to the dogs, and dog eaters. We shouldn't have bothered.

    Posted by: George Washington at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (QV9Vt)

    207 Posted by: Monsieur Moo Moo at February 17, 2016 09:20 AM (O1R3L)

    Youre such a dumbfuck. Obama didn't do those things. He was the figure head for the leftist cabal that put him in that position. You can't name one instance where Obama was the deciding force through his efforts that accomplished any of the items you listed. He simply signed where they told him to sign.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (1g+wZ)

    208
    “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

    ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

    ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”


    ― Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

    Posted by: Alexius Lessbottom at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (BVDc5)

    209 There's a magazine cover out there with a European woman (representing Europe) being groped by men with (let's say) middle eastern complexions. The magazine is a Polish magazine.

    We used to make joke about the Poles.

    We owe them years worth of apologies. They seem to be the only half intelligent country left in the west.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (4ng05)

    210 smod is a no show, it just enjoys watching our building anxiety.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:34 AM (9XzdI)


    _____________________________________________

    SMOD will make his appearance when we start to feel better about our nation. That's just how SMOD rolls.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:36 AM (rsudF)

    211 I get the dislike for Apple and Tim Cook, but it seems hugely shortsighted to me to just take the government side because the "victim" here is a lefty. Apple isn't the victim here, it's us. Positive reinforcement for companies when they're on the right side of things is just as important as negative reinforcement when they're doing something stupid.

    If a company like Apple just gives up on this, we've effective lost all expectation of privacy.

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 09:36 AM (KUaJL)

    212 joncelli, i am, i cannot say i'm feeling less pain, but decreased caring with the results of the here and now.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:36 AM (9XzdI)

    213 $65 per day soup diet

    A fool and his money, etc., etc.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 09:36 AM (659DL)

    214 trump super fan

    cruz is eligible but if he weren't ....it's time for a canadian president, eh?

    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (0O7c5)

    215 Well, you all will be happy to know that this morning on Fox and Friends, both Giuliani and Trump came out in favor of giving the government backdoor access to your iPhones

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (lVU49)

    216 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:32 AM (Zu3d9)

    I don't know where a lot of posters here come from, but I find it interesting that several of us who live in NY and NJ and have had to listen to Donald for decades are less impressed by him that some people who haven't seen him more up close and personal.

    My fear-If he gets bored or things get tough he just quits (He certainly doesn't need the money), so I hope he chooses a great, stable VP.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (w4NZ8)

    217 it IS a separate thing

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (9XzdI)

    218 If a company like Apple just gives up on this, we've effective lost all expectation of privacy.
    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 09:36 AM (KUaJL)

    It's a fuckin terrorist iPhone. Are you all fuckin out of your minds. If there ever was a National Security exception THIS is it.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (DUoqb)

    219 I tried the $65 per day soup diet that's all the rage among the wealthy and elite




    Prime rib and potato soup FTW!

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (ohWrE)

    220 Youre such a dumbfuck. Obama didn't do those things. He was the figure head for the leftist cabal that put him in that position. You can't name one instance where Obama was the deciding force through his efforts that accomplished any of the items you listed. He simply signed where they told him to sign.
    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 09:35 AM (1g+wZ)


    And what exactly, is the difference Max?

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (xWW96)

    221
    SMOD will make his appearance when we start to feel better about our nation. That's just how SMOD rolls.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:36 AM (rsudF)

    sadly.....

    Posted by: phoenixgirl, i was born a rebel at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (0O7c5)

    222 In the gambling world, Hillary is the odds-on favorite to win the Dem nominations at 4:1. Bernie is odds-against at 3:1

    Hillary is right now even odds to be the next president. Next is Trump at 3:1 against. Benrie is 4:1 against, far better odds than all the other Republicans.

    So officially, odds are WASTF.




    Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (1BQGO)

    223 And in the process, Giuliani took a shot at Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, while Trump expressed zero concern or interest in the larger constitutional issues involved

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (lVU49)

    224 I've got one, and potentially 2 phone-screen interviews today. I have got to get out of this soul-sucking job.



    Thoughts and prayers from the Horde would be appreciated.
    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:26 AM (kff5f)


    Good Luck Allen G, drink half a glass of water, and remember interviewers don't want to work to understand your answer, so don't only explain what you did, but why you did it and what would have happened if you hadn't done it.

    (says the man who hate interviews)

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 09:38 AM (q2o38)

    225
    chemfeff @ #194,

    It doesn't look like it's going to be necessary for The Don to file suit against the Ineligible Ted Cruz.
    That was my original point this morning.

    But you're plainly wrong about how the federal courts would respond to such a suit.
    The facts aren't in question.
    Everyone knows that the Ineligible Ted Cruz was born in a foreign land.

    Therefore - the relevant facts being known - it is strictly a matter of Constitutional law.

    And guess what? That's what the Supreme Court specializes in.
    They would fast track the case just like they did in Gore v Bush.

    And the Ineligible Ted Cruz would lose on the merits.




    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:38 AM (zhLKc)

    226 Stop with this crap about losing the Senate over this issue.. It SHOULD be a winning issue for us. It's about time we learn how to play the game
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (DUoqb)

    Right, it SHOULD be a winning issue, but the GOP hasn't shown that it has learned how to play the game. I hope this time it's different.

    Posted by: Mainah at February 17, 2016 09:38 AM (659DL)

    227 It's a fuckin terrorist iPhone. Are you all fuckin
    out of your minds. If there ever was a National Security exception THIS
    is it.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (DUoqb)

    that capability, to access the terrorist's iPhone, would be built into every iPhone.
    do you trust Obama's government to only use that power responsibly?

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:39 AM (lVU49)

    228 My fear-If he gets bored or things get tough he just quits (He certainly doesn't need the money),

    so I hope he chooses a great, stable VP.



    Cruz.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:39 AM (ohWrE)

    229 Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (RD7QR)

    Last night I thought of somebody else who has a book on Orthodoxy- Kallistos Ware, i haven't read his book but I do have a collection of some sublime Orthodox prayers he brought together.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:39 AM (w4NZ8)

    230 Everyone knows that the Ineligible Ted Cruz was born in a foreign land.

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:38 AM (zhLKc)


    ________________________________________

    McCain was born in a foreign land.

    Eligibility will never hinge on place of birth. It will hinge on parentage.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:40 AM (rsudF)

    231 They show one educator who is trying to reach to young muslims who may be suseptble to radicalization. He sounds rational but: He was a mentor to that asshole who started that slick jihadi mag in english. two, he said he had one thought about joining the taliban. Early on in the 90s it was clear that the taliban had destroyed any modernization in Afghanistan. Women could not go out in public unless accompanied by a male relative. If you had none, you were shit out of luck. You couldnt shop for food. You couldnt work. If you were caught outside, they slit your hamstrings. Apparently, doofus had no problems with that.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 09:40 AM (iQIUe)

    232 Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:39 AM (ohWrE)

    Too much bad blood there. I think Trump can't stand him, and I don't know that cruz would accept it.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:40 AM (w4NZ8)

    233 You will notice it's all Trump or Cruz. Trump or Cruz.

    Might as well get used to it. There is your ticket. Trump Pres and Cruz as VP.

    This is all by design.

    Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yada, yada, yada.... at February 17, 2016 09:41 AM (WVsWD)

    234 Right, it SHOULD be a winning issue, but the GOP hasn't shown that it has learned how to play the game.

    I hope this time it's different.




    C'mon Charlie! Kick the ball!
    -Lucy

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:41 AM (ohWrE)

    235 Well, he's an Auburn grad, so....


    That 'splains a lot. None of it good.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 09:41 AM (LUgeY)

    236 Now the shithead is making excuses for why Hassan was not investigated. Fuck him.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 09:41 AM (iQIUe)

    237 that capability, to access the terrorist's iPhone, would be built into every iPhone.
    do you trust Obama's government to only use that power responsibly?
    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:39 AM (lVU49)


    First of all that is not what the Gov is asking of Apple. They are asking them to remove the Apple function that X number of illegal entires into THIS phone will wipe it clean. That way the gov can break the code on THIS phone and THIS phone alone to find out what is on it. It is NOT a request to Apple to give them card blanche on everyone's iPhone.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (DUoqb)

    238 If Apple gets a judge to sign off, than I have no issue with Apple cracking the phone. I'm sure they have an off the shelf solution already.

    Let the FBI get back to work on putting the unindicted presidential candidate behind bars.

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (fbovC)

    239 Don't forget the tax man! I have played the NY
    lottery for 30 years (by yearly subscription) and usually win $1 a year,
    on a $100 investment...still waiting for the big one....
    Posted by: colin at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (AwzXD)


    Can I claim a capital gains loss on that investment?

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (q2o38)

    240 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 09:13 AM (kdS6q)

    ----------------------------------------------

    For those who want to see that NV poll from CNN/ORC showing Trump at 45%, the whole thing can be read through here: http://tinyurl.com/zl5wu56

    There's also a fresh Quinnipiac nationwide poll today showing Trump at 39%: http://tinyurl.com/h9b6c2s

    Posted by: Doomberg at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (LRuoq)

    241 The guy shot while trying to get in through the doggie door... hit in the face, treated, and in jail? What'd the homeowner do, hit him in the ear? If ever there was a case of shooting fish in a barrel...!?!

    (Kidding - nothing quite as aim-off-putting as a raving lunatic trying to break in, I'm sure.)

    On that topic... two NRA videos, Tips & Tactics, S6, Cat & Whitney Potgeter:

    Ep 15: Defensive Shooting Techniques
    https://youtu.be/HHFe2P3qXQg

    Ep 16: Common Kneeling Positions
    https://youtu.be/Tvm_scn3SHA

    And if we had a doggie door, our dog would wear it out.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - keep shooting at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (SqM8E)

    242 Too much bad blood there. I think Trump can't stand him, and I don't know that cruz would accept it.



    Remember, they were the only two to pow-wow last year.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (ohWrE)

    243 So officially, odds are WASTF.

    Posted by: Hand of Count Petofi at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (1BQGO)


    ____________________________________________

    The gamblers also picked the Panthers to win the Super Bowl, and the Cardinals to take it all at the start of the playoffs.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (rsudF)

    244 I agree with Thomas Sowell.

    Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (Qvgg/)

    245 Tim, i have been hearing BERNIE! an awful lot.

    pulling my hair out.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:43 AM (9XzdI)

    246
    cruz is eligible but if he weren't ....it's time for a canadian president, eh?


    Posted by: phoenixgirl



    Dip my Freedom Fries in beef gravy?

    Jamais!

    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 09:43 AM (kdS6q)

    247 Thoughts and prayers from the Horde would be appreciated.


    Glad to,. AllenG

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:43 AM (w4NZ8)

    248 229 Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:33 AM (RD7QR)

    Last night I thought of somebody else who has a book on Orthodoxy- Kallistos Ware, i haven't read his book but I do have a collection of some sublime Orthodox prayers he brought together.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:39 AM (w4NZ

    I saw The Orthodox Way while looking for other books at Amazon. It's in my cart, I just have to pull the trigger.

    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:43 AM (RD7QR)

    249 Chi: AllenG,
    I think it would stand you in good stead if you started the interviews with your standard phrase.
    Burn, salt, scatter...
    And, of course, don't wear pants.


    Ah, yes, following that sage old advice, "just be yourself."

    Posted by: mindful webworker - being myself at February 17, 2016 09:44 AM (SqM8E)

    250 I always agree with Thomas Sowell.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:44 AM (xWW96)

    251 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:38 AM (zhLKc)

    ****


    Thank you so much for that. I always look forward to your refreshing point of view. You have such a winning, engaging manner in your commentary and speak with a deep sense of thoughtfulness and originality that is sorely lacking on this site and yea, even the entirety of the Internet. I, for one, am utterly convinced and have come around to your way of thinking. I hereby declare you Threadwinner extraordinaire. Seriously.

    Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:44 AM (NeFrd)

    252 The fuck? Why do people keep saying this shit. Here's is just a short list of things this lazy guy has done...

    The things his Administration has done. I've never believed he was more than a figurehead.

    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 09:44 AM (9krrF)

    253

    If we were to nominate the Ineligible Ted Cruz, we would see a general election DISASTER that surpassed Goldwater's.

    The Dems would 'cruz' right into the White House.




    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:45 AM (zhLKc)

    254 TSF... ok, so if as you say Cruz is not eligible... for a super fan you aren't really singing Donald's praise or saying why you support him. You are just tearing down another candidate. What's up with that? Can't find anything nice to say about Donald?

    Posted by: gapoz at February 17, 2016 09:45 AM (thyJJ)

    255 Trying to figure out how Huma even got her security clearance in the first damned place:

    https://tinyurl.com/j4w5bxe

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 09:45 AM (4ng05)

    256 I'm not interested in giving the government *even more* access to my cell phone.

    It is bad enough that they put the "Presidential Alerts" crapola on there.

    It's very bad that the NSA does the metadata spying.

    I want what's left of my cell phone to remain private.

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:45 AM (lVU49)

    257 AllenG- I hope you stayed at a La Quinta last night.

    All success to you!

    Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:46 AM (NeFrd)

    258 Yeah, go get 'em, AllenG. Good luck and prayers for one of those good "job" thingys I hear so much about.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 09:46 AM (LUgeY)

    259

    Seamus @ #251,

    Your "kindness" is exceeded only by your sarcasm. - But it was well phrased sarcasm.

    :-)


    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:46 AM (zhLKc)

    260 218
    It's a fuckin terrorist iPhone. Are you all fuckin out of your minds. If there ever was a National Security exception THIS is it.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (DUoqb)
    -------------------------------------------------

    If it were only one phone the FBI would simply ask Apple to break in and I'd have no problem with it.

    The gov isn't asking Apple to hack one phone, they want Apple to give them an iOS version they can install on any phone at any time and hack it.

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (TxJGV)

    261 "I want what's left of my cell phone to remain private."

    why? doing something criminal? if you aren't, what have you to hide?

    Posted by: OVERLORD at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (wzYhq)

    262 Thoughts and prayers from the Horde would be appreciated.

    You've got 'em. I could use a better paying one myself, love this job as I do it doesn't pay well, which I accepted when I took it but...circumstances.

    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (9krrF)

    263 If we were to nominate the Ineligible Ted Cruz, we would see a general election DISASTER that surpassed Goldwater's.
    The Dems would 'cruz' right into the White House.
    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:45 AM (zhLKc)

    Dude shove it up your ass, you're making thinking Trump supporters (both me and Illiniwek and I think that's it) look like idiots with this crap.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (xuouz)

    264 This Shifa guy got married in Bangladesh and was arrested 4 days later. Wonder if his wife has divorced him? I hope they didnt give her a visa. He cant leave when he gets out of the joint since he has a 30 year probation.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM (iQIUe)

    265 why? doing something criminal? if you aren't, what have you to hide?

    Posted by: OVERLORD at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (wzYhq)

    Chris Christie, is that you?

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM (lVU49)

    266 The gov isn't asking Apple to hack one phone, they want Apple to give
    them an iOS version they can install on any phone at any time and hack
    it.

    ---

    THIS. We have this very old, obsolete document called the Bill of Rights.

    Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM (Qvgg/)

    267 It appears as though TSF likes the idea of "anchor babies."

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM (LUgeY)

    268 speaking of thoughts and prayers...

    has anyone heard from jewells45 yesterday or this morning?

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM (lVU49)

    269 Wow I'm torn between getting banned by telling these hot air castoffs what I think of them, and just cutting bait.

    But we can't let them take over the 'Q

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM (xuouz)

    270 I, for one, welcome our new troll infiltrators who were broomed out of HotAir by that sites new changes. Their contribution to our already lively discussions will insure that everyone is entertained.

    Meanwhile, in other news, over on slashdot :

    Hours after Apple was ordered to help the FBI access the San Bernardino Shooters' iPhone, Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), a Stanford University computer-science graduate, wondered where the use of the All Writs Act—on which the magistrate judge based her ruling—might lead. "Can courts compel Facebook to provide analytics of who might be a criminal?"


    Enquiring minds need to know if one can be busted only because you are for legalization of marijuana and say so on your Facebook page.

    Posted by: Alexius Lessbottom at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM (BVDc5)

    271 If we were to nominate the Ineligible Ted Cruz, we would see a general election DISASTER that surpassed Goldwater's.

    The Dems would 'cruz' right into the White House.

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:45 AM (zhLKc)


    ___________________________________________

    Goldwater wasn't the problem. The problem was a nation sympathetic to a party that recently had its president assassinated.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (rsudF)

    272 Posted by: OVERLORD at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (wzYhq)

    Given this administration's definition of "criminal," probably, and I bet you are too.

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (KUaJL)

    273 Your "kindness" is exceeded only by your sarcasm. - But it was well phrased sarcasm.

    Seamus has a way with words, by which I mean it's a miracle he gets away with words like he strings together.

    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (9krrF)

    274 chemjeff, it's me

    everyone is assumed to be guilty these days

    privacy means "hiding"

    not good

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (wzYhq)

    275
    NotCoach @ #230,

    McCain was born in SOVEREIGN US TERRITORY. - That is, on a MILITARY BASE under US LAW.
    - Not under foreign law.

    HUGE DIFFERENCE.



    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (zhLKc)

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (wzYhq)

    277 Test

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (ohWrE)

    278 Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (rsudF)

    __________________________________________________

    I didn't make my stuff bold.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (rsudF)

    279
    Fox has announced that three minutes of the May 15th episode of The Simpsons will feature an unprecedented "live" section where Homers voice actor, Dan Castellaneta, will answer fan questions (and to verify its live nature, comment on current events) in a sequence that utilize motion capture to marry Castellanetas live performance to the two-dimensional Homer. You can submit it with the "#HomerLive" tag on Twitter between May 1st and May 4th.

    IO9


    "Live" in the "has #twoweeks to complete the segment before air" sense of the term.

    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (kdS6q)

    280 We're at war, and the enemy is using Apple products and services to kill us. I'd prefer we skipped the FBI/Judicial orders and have the CIA, NSA, whoever, steal the information they need. I know Cook says the software doesn't exist, but surely there's a way.

    Posted by: Lincolntf at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (2cS/G)

    281 Alexius Lessbottom, report to the Barrel.

    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (9krrF)

    282 Hungry, hungry barrel.

    Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (Qvgg/)

    283 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:45 AM (zhLKc)

    Trump has higher negatives than Cruz.

    I am not sure what logic you are using to make these statements, but I never learned it in school.

    Is it new?

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (Zu3d9)

    284 Test 2

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (ohWrE)

    285 Max Rockatansky: Youre such a dumbfuck. Obama didn't do those things....

    Correct form for debating is more like "your opinion on this is dumbfuckery" - avoid ad hominem, right?

    Other than that, glad you noted what you did, because I thought it but wasn't going to say anything.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - armchair referee at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (SqM8E)

    286 Dude shove it up your ass, you're making thinking Trump supporters (both me and Illiniwek and I think that's it) look like idiots with this crap.
    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (xuouz)


    Heh.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (xWW96)

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (fbovC)

    288 You've got 'em. I could use a better paying one myself, love this job as I do it doesn't pay well, which I accepted when I took it but...circumstances.

    In my case, it's not the money (though they did effectively give us a pay cut by destroying both of our available bonus structures), it's the situation. More money would be nice, and I can't actually afford a pay cut, but it's not actually the impetus.



    Which, by the way, is a word which should be used much more often: "impetus."

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (kff5f)

    289 Folks, Trump Super Fan is either Average Joe, who voluntarily enjoys oral sodomy, or a sock. Responding to it is bootless.

    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (RD7QR)

    290 Ha! Auto close tags FTW!

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (ohWrE)

    291 good to see that hillary and sanders are in trouble with demwits across the board

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (wzYhq)

    292 - Not under foreign law.

    HUGE DIFFERENCE.

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:49 AM (zhLKc)


    ______________________________________________

    Foreign law is irrelevant when considering eligibility. Only US law matters.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (rsudF)

    293 Big Jump in support when Jugg Ears says Trump will not be commander...
    HA HA HAr Har

    Posted by: Break Some Eggs Now at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (hforh)

    294 The gamblers also picked the Panthers to win the Super Bowl, and the Cardinals to take it all at the start of the playoffs.
    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 09:42 AM (rsudF)


    Bad referees and umpires. Clearly partial and they had it in for them. Nobody likes those officials. they should have been sued along with the other team for not being eligible to be there that day.

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (q2o38)

    295
    'scuse me, I gotta go change my name.

    Posted by: Alexius Lessbottom at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (BVDc5)

    296 Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:43 AM (RD7QR)

    Sound like you're about to shoot yourself. Don't do it! :^)

    Can I ask-not to be nosy-but because I'm interested in people's spiritual journeys. How dd you get interested in Orthodoxy?

    P.S. A fun book to read (if you haven't already read it) from the Orthodox perspective is-The Way of a Pilgrim " and "The Pilgrim continues his journey" which is supposedly the anonymous account of a guy who traveled over Russia in the 1840s who continually recited the great Orthodox prayer, "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me,a sinner. It's interesting n who he meets and his reference to different works of Theology, although it's not about Orthodox belief per se. It's only about 200 pages.

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:51 AM (w4NZ8)

    297 Huma Abedin's security clearance has always mystified me. She worked for an al Qaeda front organization (alongside her mother) for years, for crying out loud.

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 09:51 AM (TxJGV)

    298 Alexius, I think you will find even Lessbottom at the bottom of the Barrel. Step away from the keyboard for a while, eh?

    Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:51 AM (NeFrd)

    299 The elite higher education schools in this country have become a sad, unfunny joke of a metaphor for the state of the entire country:

    https://tinyurl.com/zmhwbls

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 09:51 AM (4ng05)

    300 Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:37 AM (xWW96)

    The difference is we were talking about what Obama would do after he left office. Moo Moo believes Obama is a hard working evil genius. It's my opinion ,which is backed up by facts, is that Obama is a lazy figure head puppet. Once he is out of office, he will be useless without his puppet masters and will not put in any effort into doing anything significant.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (1g+wZ)

    301 Wow Two weeks to create a 3 minute segment. That's quite impressive.

    Posted by: South Park - 6 days to air at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (zt+N6)

    302 Folks, Trump Super Fan is either Average Joe, who voluntarily enjoys oral sodomy, or a sock. Responding to it is bootless.
    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (RD7QR)

    Good thing I ain't wearin boots!

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (xuouz)

    303
    This terrorist, Ehsanul Sadequee, volunteered at a domestic violence center in order to use their computers to communicate with other terrorists. He and his pal went around DC filiming security stations and gov bldings.

    Lord I hate their families, especially their sisters who they would honor kill in a heart beat.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (iQIUe)

    304 TODAY I WILL RITUALLY SACRIFICE A MEXICAN AND MUSLIM PUBLICLY ON LIVE TV AND THROW THE BLOOD ON THAT LYING CANADIAN CRUZ!

    WATCH MY POLL NUMBERS GO UP!

    MURICA!

    Posted by: President Donald Herbert Mountain Dew Comancho Trump at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (lHWU9)

    305 because of course WE can trust this govt with only looking at actual terrorists and the rest of us with our political ideology will be left alone.

    like firefox guy, mz cakebaker.waco, i could go on, but it would be exhausting.
    Hassan!

    oh yeah that guy was actually in the protected class.

    that we have a class system already means we're in trouble.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (9XzdI)

    306 Mr Macca Bean: We used to make joke about the Poles.
    We owe them years worth of apologies....


    Polack jokes generally took a fast fade - and certainly in my case ended forever - after a certain Pope, and Lech Walesa, helped start the cascade that ended the USSR. I was laughing, but with them, not at them.

    Posted by: mindful webworker - Moron jokes still in, here, at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (SqM8E)

    307 "scuse me, I gotta go change my name."

    Alex Ampletop.

    Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yada, yada, yada.... at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (WVsWD)

    308 Posted by: Alexius Lessbottom at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (BVDc5)

    No need....you just got a one-time get out of barrel free card from the guy with the keys this morning because you have a cool nic.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:53 AM (Zu3d9)

    309 Hard to believe Hillary will take SC. But then, they do take corrupt to a whole new place.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 09:53 AM (xuouz)

    310 "Huma Abedin's security clearance has always mystified me."

    Cloward and Piven probably think it makes perfect sense

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 09:53 AM (wzYhq)

    311 The difference is we were talking about what Obama would do after he left office. Moo Moo believes Obama is a hard working evil genius. It's my opinion ,which is backed up by facts, is that Obama is a lazy figure head puppet. Once he is out of office, he will be useless without his puppet masters and will not put in any effort into doing anything significant.



    He will be like Sharpton or Jackson. He'll roll into town, attemp a shakedown, and disappear.
    Very little actual work.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:53 AM (ohWrE)

    312 Ha! Auto close tags FTW!Posted by: rickb223


    It's funny, on the front page, in the 'recent comments' area, you can see all the 'regulars' because their full nics show up complete with a full contingent of closing tags.

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 09:53 AM (fbovC)

    313 The difference is we were talking about what Obama would do after he left office. Moo Moo believes Obama is a hard working evil genius. It's my opinion ,which is backed up by facts, is that Obama is a lazy figure head puppet. Once he is out of office, he will be useless without his puppet masters and will not put in any effort into doing anything significant.
    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 09:52 AM (1g+wZ)


    He does their bidding because it is his also, and will continue to do so after leaving office. All they will require him to do is show up and mouth support.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 09:54 AM (xWW96)

    314 As far as I can tell, if you want to preserve what rights we have left, and begin to root out the federal government from various aspects of your life, Cruz is your man. I have no idea what Trump would do as president, and neither does anybody else, including Trump.

    With the passing of Scalia, I'm not willing to take a chance.

    Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2016 09:54 AM (Qvgg/)

    315
    NotCoach @ #271,

    I agree with you on why Goldwater lost.

    But the reason we would lose if the Ineligible Ted Cruz snagged the nomination is because the GOP would have to scramble to replace him after the Supreme Court ruled he was ineligible due to being born in a foreign land under foreign law and thus not a "natural born" citizen.





    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:54 AM (zhLKc)

    316 Thanks TVoC! I needed that.

    Posted by: Tim in Illinois. Yada, yada, yada.... at February 17, 2016 09:55 AM (WVsWD)

    317 Obama and his wife will be officious fools for the rest of their lives. How public they will be is hard to tell at this point.

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 09:55 AM (wzYhq)

    318 The gov isn't asking Apple to hack one phone, they want Apple to give them an iOS version they can install on any phone at any time and hack it.
    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 09:47 AM (TxJGV)


    NO that is NOT what the gov is asking. They are asking Apple itself to install the software on that iPhone and THAT iPhone only.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:55 AM (DUoqb)

    319 TSF still hasn't said anything good about Donald. Hrmmmm...

    Posted by: gapoz at February 17, 2016 09:55 AM (thyJJ)

    320 270 Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), a Stanford University , "Can courts compel Facebook to provide analytics of who might be a criminal?"
    --------------------------------------------------

    "compel"? I think you mean "prevent"

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 09:56 AM (TxJGV)

    321 Oh, I have a full set of Orthodoxy- Kallistos Ware in my dining room hutch! Lovely plates!

    Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 09:56 AM (3ZtZW)

    322 296 Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:43 AM (RD7QR)

    Sound like you're about to shoot yourself. Don't do it! :^)

    Can I ask-not to be nosy-but because I'm interested in people's spiritual journeys. How dd you get interested in Orthodoxy?

    P.S. A fun book to read (if you haven't already read it) from the Orthodox perspective is-The Way of a Pilgrim " and "The Pilgrim continues his journey" which is supposedly the anonymous account of a guy who traveled over Russia in the 1840s who continually recited the great Orthodox prayer, "Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me,a sinner. It's interesting n who he meets and his reference to different works of Theology, although it's not about Orthodox belief per se. It's only about 200 pages.
    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 09:51 AM (w4NZ

    Actually I'm just reading widely. By birth and upbringing I'm a Lutheran but mainstream Lutheranism is less than inspiring, which is why I'm currently seeking. I'm not an atheist and my agnosticism is getting harder and harder to justify. So now I'm ready to make choices.

    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (RD7QR)

    323 >>"Souping is the new juicing," The New York Times declared.


    Is this the "bone broth" craze?
    I have no idea what they made broth out of before our hipster culinary betters discovered that neat trick

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (NOIQH)

    324 Wh will rid us of this Trumplesome priest?

    Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (NeFrd)

    325 vashta, what isn't in doubt is the idiotic and/or criminal natures of sanders and clinton

    trump is a roll of the dice, and to a lesser extent so is Cruz

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (wzYhq)

    326 It is NOT a request to Apple to give them card blanche on everyone's iPhone.

    Yet.

    But the misuse of the All Writs Act combined with this precedent would make that only a matter of time.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (eytER)

    327 268 speaking of thoughts and prayers...

    has anyone heard from jewells45 yesterday or this morning?
    Posted by: chemjeff
    --------------
    Not since just before leaving for the hospital yesterday. I figured it would be sometime today (if that) when we heard any news...

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (OUpHg)

    328 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 09:54 AM (zhLKc)

    "Foreign law."

    It doesn't apply to Americans.

    For instance, in America we can build churches and synagogues if we want to. We can even own bibles!

    In Saudi Arabia that is illegal, but their law...foreign law...does not apply to us.

    See?

    Simple!

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 09:58 AM (Zu3d9)

    329 Is this the "bone broth" craze?
    I have no idea what they made broth out of before our hipster culinary betters discovered that neat trick



    Tree bark recipe that they ripped off from the NORK's.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:58 AM (ohWrE)

    330 "Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country"

    Enough to want to cut one's wrists with broken Coke bottles.

    Posted by: washrivergal at February 17, 2016 09:58 AM (CFc5L)

    331 wait, What's this about Jewells?

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 09:58 AM (9XzdI)

    332
    Hollywood Studio Bosses "Brainstorm" ISIS Countermeasures With John Kerry

    The heads of the major Hollywood studios and U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry met yesterday at Universal Studios to discuss how to counter ISIS. Kerry later noted the meeting on Twitter.

    The sitdown was similar in nature to when the Bush administration came to Hollywoods doorstep after 9/11 to develop content and plot lines that addressed the then-emerging War On Terror.

    Deadline.com


    And that worked like a charm at keeping things calm over there....

    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 09:58 AM (kdS6q)

    333 It is NOT a request to Apple to give them card blanche on everyone's iPhone.

    Yet.

    But the misuse of the All Writs Act combined with this precedent would make that only a matter of time.
    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (enter)

    This phone belonged to a fuckin terrorist trying going down all western values and kill us all or make us convert. THAT trumps your privacy concerns. Get a grip on it people. As we are fond of saying here, The Constitution is not a suicide pack. And I have nothing on my phone I need to hide anyway.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:59 AM (DUoqb)

    334 Comment deleted.
    - Zuck

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 09:59 AM (ohWrE)

    335 Posted by: mindful webworker - armchair referee at February 17, 2016 09:50 AM (SqM8E)

    Sorry I thought there was a Moo Moo exception written into the bylaws.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 09:59 AM (1g+wZ)

    336 It's funny, on the front page, in the 'recent comments' area, you can see all the 'regulars' because their full nics show up complete with a full contingent of closing tags.

    Yeah, about the MUMR post that's in the list now...

    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 09:59 AM (9krrF)

    337 >>Obama and his wife will be officious fools for the rest of their lives. How public they will be is hard to tell at this point.


    I fear the MSM will give them ample opportunity to stay in our lives.
    I can see Michelle becoming a regular guest host on the View, and/or Obama becoming a very special political expert for NBC/MSNBC so he can pop in (via satellite from wherever golf destination he's at) and pontificate and troll on the latest hot topic.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:00 AM (NOIQH)

    338 Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (NeFrd)

    Oooh! Oooh!

    Pick Me!


    Posted by: Hugh De Morville at February 17, 2016 10:00 AM (Zu3d9)

    339 is sooth ever going to come back?

    i was hoping a reprimand and time out would be sufficient?

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 10:00 AM (9XzdI)

    340 Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (RD7QR)

    Thanks for letting me know. May your journey be blessed! :^)

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 10:00 AM (w4NZ8)

    341 I thought there was something funky on the formatting for this page. Looking back at the ONT there definitely is. I think it might be due to MH's use of bullet points for his links.

    Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2016 10:01 AM (zt+N6)

    342 331 wait, What's this about Jewells?
    Posted by: willow
    -------------
    Went in for surgery yesterday.
    I have no idea what for, but hoping it was routine.
    And have been praying my agnostic self for her (?) since the day I heard it was coming up...

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 10:01 AM (OUpHg)

    343
    NotCoach @ #292,

    Your point that foreign law is irrelevant to US Constitutional eligibility is spot on!
    - A citizen must have been born under sovereignty of US LAW.

    The Ineligible Ted Cruz Being born in a foreign land (not at a US military base or embassy) means he was not born under sovereign US jurisdiction.

    An act of Congress naturalized him at birth.
    But past Supreme Court majority opinions (as well as a commonsense reading of the Constitution) make it clear that being "naturalized" by Congress is no the same thing as being "natural born" under the sovereignty of the US Constitution.

    Ted is INELIGIBLE.



    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 10:02 AM (zhLKc)

    344 Can't someone get rid of the annoying repetitive fool

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:02 AM (DUoqb)

    345 chemjeff: has anyone heard from jewells45 yesterday or this morning?

    Was wondering the same. Read her saying she was going into surgery, but wasn't sure exactly what for.

    Posted by: mindful webworker at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (SqM8E)

    346 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:59 AM (DUoqb)

    Have to disagree.

    With freedom comes less security. That is axiomatic.

    And privacy is sacrosanct. Only a legal court order can violate our privacy. The desires of law enforcement are notoriously corrupt. That is exactly why the constitution requires judicial approval.

    That being said: this turd's phone should be cracked by order of a judge. If Apple doesn't want to do it, they should throw Tim Cook into jail for contempt.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (Zu3d9)

    347 This phone belonged to a fuckin terrorist trying going down all western
    values and kill us all or make us convert. THAT trumps your privacy
    concerns. Get a grip on it people. As we are fond of saying here, The
    Constitution is not a suicide pack. And I have nothing on my phone I
    need to hide anyway.


    If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear? Is that the argument I'm supposed to accept?

    And what happens when the government runs out of external enemies? Will your argument still hold when that phone belongs to a fucking tea party conservative?

    Sorry, I won't surrender my rights so easily.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (PFy0L)

    348 >>Ted is INELIGIBLE.

    You've made your opinion on this issue known. Repeatedly.

    Move on.

    Posted by: JackStraw at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (/tuJf)

    349 Screw hot air and zuckerberg

    Posted by: Avi at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (Gx3Fe)

    350 If Trump is nominated the Dems will cruz into the White House no matter who wins. Name one conservative that you know who ever said Bush should be impeached because he lied about WMD in Iraq.

    Posted by: Patches O'Houlihan at February 17, 2016 10:04 AM (NA4Je)

    351 chi, oh, alright, i will pray, not that i'm yet in the camp where i have any standing and will be heard.

    although maybe if we have enough for a minyan.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 10:04 AM (9XzdI)

    352 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 10:02 AM (zhLKc)

    Dude....enough. We get the point.

    You're dancing on the troll line.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:04 AM (Zu3d9)

    353 Calling Trump a Truther is fun but not remotely honest.

    Truthers think Bush was behind 9/11, that he knew and it is all a plan by the secret globalist club, there were no planes, fire can't melt steel .... all that.

    Trump blamed Clinton first, then said Bush also had a shot at bin Laden. The "Bush Lied" part was only about the WMD's, and over the top that "they knew there were none". I think Trump believes the nation building was wrong and hurt US, and simplifies that with "they lied us into war". We know they didn't have as much as they sold us on regarding nukes. And the defensive right claims "there were WMDs" but really only point to the old chemical stuff.

    So it is "phrasing" ... they decided to go in, and Trump calls it a big lie, I (in hindsight, not with foresight) call it a strategic mistake, unless they'd been ready to unleash the military and really win. In any case, Trump hated the decision in 2004, and the deals made were more globalist interventionist than "America First". He was in favor of striking back at whoever did it, not in favor of what actually became more "quagmire" than Vietnam.

    Trump is not a "Truther" ... a little Bush derangement syndrome maybe, but for different reasons than leftists. Bush was a globalist, not really a conservative.

    Posted by: Illiniwek at February 17, 2016 10:04 AM (5Gpe2)

    354 Karl Denninger on the iPhone backdoor:

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231125


    He has been talking about this forever. And believe me, he is no fan of Apple.

    Tim Cook is right in this instance.

    Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2016 10:05 AM (zoehZ)

    355 I thought someone on the ONT said the actual owners of the phone gave them permission to have it unlocked. You know, the former employer of the terrorist.

    Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2016 10:05 AM (zt+N6)

    356 That being said: this turd's phone should be cracked by order {OF A JUDGE}. If Apple doesn't want to do it, they should throw Tim Cook into jail for contempt.
    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (Zu3d9)

    how hard is this !

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 10:05 AM (9XzdI)

    357 We look at this and we say to ourselves, "How could this be? In England, of all places?"

    https://tinyurl.com/htv3vnf

    The truth is, when this starts happening here, we will reluctantly accept it. Just like we have with all of the other incremental infringements on our "natural rights".

    Who are we even kidding.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 10:06 AM (4ng05)

    358 As far as I can tell, if you want to preserve what rights we have left, and begin to root out the federal government from various aspects of your life, Cruz is your man. I have no idea what Trump would do as president, and neither does anybody else, including Trump.

    With the passing of Scalia, I'm not willing to take a chance.
    Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2016 09:54 AM (Qvgg/)

    Yep, that's the good and the bad of Trump.

    He lies just like the establishment lies, the only difference is he doesn't have 30 years of lying to account for, and there's no one else out there willing to bring the establishment to account. Except, yes, for Ted Cruz. Only he isn't a chaos candidate, he's a conservative candidate, and the socialist academy, media, entertainment complex, and social media advocacy engine have armored the youth of the nation against conservatism, stigmatized it into something to be completely ignored where it can't be attacked. Chaos may be our only hope.

    It's my opinion that the federal government has been set up, since the vietnam war, to tend towards autocracy automatically, regardless of who is in power. Thus chaos may be our only chance of averting redistributive socialism.

    In a battle of David vs Goliath you have to risk everything on a long shot. We are not Goliath.

    I'm not happy about it though. The last 3 weeks have taken the shine off the Donald. But nothing can change the math.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:06 AM (xuouz)

    359 That being said: this turd's phone should be cracked by order of a judge. If Apple doesn't want to do it, they should throw Tim Cook into jail for contempt.
    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (Zu3d9)

    ???

    They got a Court Order:

    The Justice Department sought the order in the hopes of gaining crucial evidence about the Dec. 2 shooting rampage, which killed 14 people and injured 22.

    The order, signed Tuesday by a magistrate judge in Riverside, Calif., does not ask Apple to break the phones encryption but rather to disable the feature that wipes the data on the phone after 10 incorrect tries at entering a password.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:06 AM (DUoqb)

    360 Since the matter was mentioned... a mindful video webwork from back in Oct 2012:

    Lazy Man (1:01)
    Why would anyone think he's lazy?
    (Watch Michelle laugh when he says he's hard-working.)

    http://mindfulwebworks.com/radical/lazy-man

    Posted by: mindful webworker - twisted video genius at February 17, 2016 10:06 AM (SqM8E)

    361 alright, gong to clean the kitchen,

    with threat.

    i'll be back.

    Posted by: willow at February 17, 2016 10:07 AM (9XzdI)

    362 Sorry, I won't surrender my rights so easily.
    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (PFy0L)


    No one is asking you to...The Court Order only pertains to that one iPhone.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:07 AM (DUoqb)

    363 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 09:55 AM (DUoqb)
    -----------------------------------------------

    You and I interpret this statement from Cook's letter differently:

    In the wrong hands, this software-- which does not exist today -- would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone's physical possession.

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 10:08 AM (TxJGV)

    364 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:03 AM (Zu3d9)

    Upvoting this.

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 10:08 AM (KUaJL)

    365 We have this very old, obsolete document called the Bill of Rights.
    Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2016 09:48 AM


    Don't push your ancient white privilege on me...that document is over 400 years old...

    Posted by: Sheila Jackson Lee at February 17, 2016 10:08 AM (ZQfW9)

    366
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    TWENTY-FOUR bottles of amazing await you with over 100 varied whole food ingredients. Nourish your body (at approximately 1200 calories per day) while you lose weight and improve health.

    www.soupure.com/shipping/3-day-cleanse




    NB: According to the USDA the average monthly expenditure for a low-cost meal plan for a family of four in the United States is $786, or about $200 per week.

    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 10:08 AM (kdS6q)

    367 Thank goodness the smart voters of North Carolina appear to be poised to dismiss his candidacy.

    Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 10:07 AM (zhLKc



    Not smart though: You. Its South Carolina.

    Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2016 10:08 AM (zt+N6)

    368 From my reading, it's sounds like that's what they already did. The FBI isn't asking for the information on that particular device. They're asking for a way to get at any device they want, without going through with getting a warrant or Apple.
    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 09:21 AM (KUaJL)

    From the article posted at Drudge, Apple can't crack the encryption but they can hack the phone to turn off the feature that wipes the phone after too many password attempts. I can see Apple saying we won't give you the method for general use. But I don't see why they can't do it for a specific device with permission/warrant.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:09 AM (LTDSy)

    369 In the wrong hands, this software-- which does not exist today -- would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone's physical possession.
    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 10:08 AM (TxJGV)

    The "software" would stay in Apple's hands? All there asking Apple to do is disable the one code that permanently lacks this ONE iPhone and ONLY this one iPhone after 10 unsuccessful entry attempts.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:09 AM (DUoqb)

    370 If you were vacationing in Canada with your pregnant wife and she went into early labor and had the baby, that baby would not be natural born American by virtue of the location of the birth and not eligible to be President? But on the other hand a baby born in El Paso to illegal alien parents is eligible to be President? I don't think you understand the founders intent of Natural born American.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:09 AM (1g+wZ)

    371 No one is asking you to...The Court Order only pertains to that one iPhone.

    And lets the genie out of the bottle to do it to all iPhones.

    It's axiomatic. Cook tries to explain it in his letter.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:10 AM (PFy0L)

    372 >>The heads of the major Hollywood studios and U.S. Secretary of State
    John Kerry met yesterday at Universal Studios to discuss how to counter
    ISIS. Kerry later noted the meeting on Twitter.


    First, I keep wondering if this administration knows they're not playing characters on The West Wing.

    Second, I can imagine just how this went:

    Kerry: "We need people to understand that ISIS are not true Muslims, so we were thinking that we need more shows to depict Muslims as peaceful, patriotic Americans."

    Hollywood Team: "Right! We were also thinking that to really drive the point home it would be best to depict anyone who does not agree with this as a hatey racist bigot southern bible-clinging gun nut."

    Kerry: "And a Republican, right?"

    Hollywood Team: "Of course!! We've got that one down already. We've perfected the 'looks like a Muslim terror attack but is actually a hatey, PSTD-ridden former military dude' plot twist down pat."

    Kerry: "Excellent. Your tax breaks will continue."

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:11 AM (NOIQH)

    373 They're asking for a way to get at any device they want, without going through with getting a warrant or Apple.
    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 09:21 AM (KUaJL)

    From the article posted at Drudge, Apple can't crack the encryption but they can hack the phone to turn off the feature that wipes the phone after too many password attempts. I can see Apple saying we won't give you the method for general use. But I don't see why they can't do it for a specific device with permission/warrant.
    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:09 AM (LTDSy)

    A) they are not asking for the software to do this, They are asking for Apple to do this on THIS phone ONLY

    B) they got a Court Order.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:11 AM (DUoqb)

    374 351 chi, oh, alright, i will pray, not that i'm yet in the camp where i have any standing and will be heard.

    although maybe if we have enough for a minyan.
    Posted by: willow
    ---------------
    Im right there with you, but I think with Fenelon by our side, we at least stand a chance of being heard by Him.

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 10:11 AM (OUpHg)

    375 Looks like Trump Super Fan couldn't take a hint.

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 10:11 AM (fbovC)

    376 And lets the genie out of the bottle to do it to all iPhones.

    It's axiomatic. Cook tries to explain it in his letter.
    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:10 AM (PFy0L)


    If Apple retains the work around, I don't buy that.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:12 AM (DUoqb)

    377 AllenG, just bought your book to celebrate my escape from Hot Gas and fulltime return to AoSHQ. Looking forward to reading it!

    Posted by: VidOmnia at February 17, 2016 10:12 AM (56u+o)

    378 Some people can't take a hint.

    I'm out of here. Enjoy your day with Trumplestiltskin, y'all.

    Posted by: Seamus Muldoon at February 17, 2016 10:12 AM (NeFrd)

    379 A theological observation.

    Some wonder why the Creators allowed good and evil not so good to co-exist in the universe.

    Example:

    On the one hand we have the mind-numbing repetitiousness of the TSF one-note comments.

    But, without that, we would not have had Seamus's brilliant, classic response at #251.

    Praise de Lawd!

    Posted by: mindful webworker - theo logically at February 17, 2016 10:13 AM (SqM8E)

    380 If you were vacationing in Canada with your pregnant wife and she went into early labor and had the baby, that baby would not be natural born American by virtue of the location of the birth and not eligible to be President? But on the other hand a baby born in El Paso to illegal alien parents is eligible to be President? I don't think you understand the founders intent of Natural born American.
    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:09 AM (1g+wZ)

    Seriously, I tire of this asinine argument from Trumptards. My college roommate was born in London to two American parents who were working abroad. He's a fucking American in his soul, and legally too. If we're not going to make an issue of Obama's birth and upbringing (and bitching vs *mounting a campaign to disqualify a man from running for the office* are functionally distinct whether your head-up-your-ass pedantry cares to acknowledge the distinction or not) then why the fuck are we going to make an issue of it re: the most conservative candidate I've seen in my voting lifetime?

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuck offffffffff with the Cruz birtherism.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:13 AM (xuouz)

    381 From the article:

    The ruling from U.S. Magistrate Sheri Pym requires Apple to provide "reasonable technical assistance" to the FBI, namely, software that can disable the security feature that erases data from the iPhone after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it.


    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (LTDSy)

    382 19 17 That fucker will plague us as long as he lives.
    Posted by: steevy at February 17, 2016 08:51 AM (B48dK)

    ---------------------

    It will be great to see a Trump administration hunt Obama down and capture him with Seal Team Six in some safe harbor country and have him marched out in perp orange and cuffs from some military transport at Andrews for his treasonous activities.

    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (LXJ1e)

    383 An act of Congress naturalized him at birth.

    Hey, genius: There is no such thing as "naturalized at birth."

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (659DL)

    384 Posted by: mindful webworker - theo logically at February 17, 2016 10:13 AM (SqM8E)

    ________________________________________________

    There is no free will without both good and evil in the world.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (rsudF)

    385 [looks around furtively]

    Word on the street says Ted Cruz was not only just born in Canada, but was delivered into a manger full of poutine while Geddy Lee sang O Canada, in a stable on Parliament Hill.

    Posted by: Johnny the Shoeshine Guy at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (JA5Qu)

    386 You did what?
    He won't do this again
    ----------------

    Interesting pair of link titles.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (n22zQ)

    387 "The government suggests this tool could only be used once, on one phone.
    But that's simply not true. Once created, the technique could be used
    over and over again, on any number of devices. In the physical world, it
    would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of
    millions of locks - from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. No
    reasonable person would find that acceptable."


    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (PFy0L)

    388 Trump is not a "Truther" ... a little Bush derangement syndrome maybe

    SC is an open primary state, my guess he was trolling for dem votes primarily

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (wzYhq)

    389 Trump implied Bush was responsible for 9/11 during the debate . When Jeb said GWB kept us safe , Trump interrupted Jeb a couple of times to emphasize that 9/11 happened on GWBs watch.

    Trump wasn't trying just to give us an accurate timeline.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (1g+wZ)

    390 Doing up some summer travel plans. Let's see, to get from Denver Int'l to the Amtrak station all I have to do is...take the AF Skyride to downtown, transfer to a city bus and travel to the Union Street station. And this is estimated to take...about 2 hours, depending on traffic.

    Srsly, Denver?

    Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (HMt16)

    391 all of hot airs articles say no comments

    I am sure there are some but it doesnt look good on the front page

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (zOTsN)

    392 >>And lets the genie out of the bottle to do it to all iPhones. It's axiomatic. Cook tries to explain it in his letter.


    I haven't read the letter --- is this teaching them how to do it themselves, or just sets a precedent that authorities can request telecom companies do it for them (with or without a subpoena)?

    I've worked in the telecom industry (it was years ago, but still), and they do comply with subpoenas - not just call records, but location information, and I imagine it's only gotten more expansive with texts, browsing info from smartphones, etc.
    I'm not getting why this particular request is such a big deal.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (NOIQH)

    393 Did the golden retriever in the sidebar catch the fish by using dynamite? Just wondering.

    Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (WOyz5)

    394 385 [looks around furtively]

    Word on the street says Ted Cruz was not only just born in Canada, but was delivered into a manger full of poutine while Geddy Lee sang O Canada, in a stable on Parliament Hill.

    Posted by: Johnny the Shoeshine Guy at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (JA5Qu)


    ______________________________________________

    Eh?

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (rsudF)

    395 But that's simply not true. Once created, the technique could be used
    over and over again, on any number of devices. In the physical world, it
    would be the equivalent of a master key, capable of opening hundreds of
    millions of locks - from restaurants and banks to stores and homes. No
    reasonable person would find that acceptable."


    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (PFy0L)

    NO
    Only with a Court Order
    And Apple retains the work around NOT the Gov
    IT'S A FUCKIN TERRORIST

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (DUoqb)

    396 ALL TROLLS ARE AVERAGE JOE, WHO IS FOND OF POPPING MALE MEMBERS INTO HIS MOUTH.

    Sorry to yell, but engaging TSF is stupid.

    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (RD7QR)

    397 all of hot airs articles say no comments

    "new Coke"

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (659DL)

    398 How weird is it that in the 21st century, there exists a predominant ideology, masquerading as a religion, as savage and brutal as Islam?

    https://tinyurl.com/zfk7dko

    As a youth, I remember reading ancient history about societies who did this shit and thought to myself how fortunate I was to live in civilized times.

    How odd life is.

    How odd it is for a deity to have been created and to continue to exist in "civilized times".

    How even stranger that the majority of western leaders rush to defend it when it is rightfully maligned.

    I think this says so much about humanity as a whole.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 10:17 AM (4ng05)

    399 This place is going to the dogs.

    Sound the ewok horn. Let loose the war hamsters and pour festering animal fats o'er the edges of The Barrel to grease the paths of the unrighteous.

    Let injustice flow down like valurite and permabans like a mighty stream.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:17 AM (xuouz)

    400 The "software" would stay in Apple's hands?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:09 AM (DUoqb)
    --------------------------------------------

    If that were true there would be no controversy. Each instance the FBI uses this backdoor would require judicial review.

    But the letter makes clear the FBI wants to take possession of the software and the ability to push the update to any phone they choose.

    If Apple does it for the FBI what's to stop them from giving the same thing to the Chinese government. One of my daughter's friends from college attended a protest against human rights violations ONE time at Stanford, where they went to school. Afterwards, Stanford reported to her that her gmail account at school had been hacked, along with other email accounts from other protestors. The implication from Stanford's IT security people was the Chinese government was behind the hacking. The FBI can do the same and more (though I don't think they would) with this software.

    Judicial review of each instance. It's a principle here in the U.S. I argue for it only to preserve the principle.

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 10:17 AM (TxJGV)

    401 Good morning, all. Looks like Fox is going half Trump and half Rubio coverage this morning, with lots and lots of claims of (alleged) Cruz shenanigans and lying.

    I know people denigrate Cruz for his religious beliefs, but Rubio and Gowdy evidently are willing to throw their faiths out the window by suddenly forgetting the 6th and 9th commandments.

    Posted by: Joanne at February 17, 2016 10:17 AM (hgBpU)

    402 Posted by: Trump Super Fan at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (zhLKc)

    See ya later. You convinced no one, despite your repeated trolling.

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 10:17 AM (fbovC)

    403 Sound the ewok horn. Let loose the war hamsters and pour festering animal fats o'er the edges of The Barrel to grease the paths of the unrighteous.

    Let injustice flow down like valurite and permabans like a mighty stream.


    And, of course, get me a sammich.

    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 10:18 AM (659DL)

    404 I'm not getting why this particular request is such a big deal.
    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:16 AM (NOIQH)

    Because Cook is a left wing radical and some people can't distinguish with genuine National Security and genuine privacy which with a legitimate Court Order is NOT absolute.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:18 AM (DUoqb)

    405 Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 09:57 AM (RD7QR)

    Then let me put in my honest and humble recommendation to research the Campbell-Stone Restoration movement. It gave birth to the churches of Christ, and the Disciples of Christ.

    Posted by: AllenG (DedicatedTenther) Buy My Book at February 17, 2016 10:18 AM (kff5f)

    406 But the letter makes clear the FBI wants to take possession of the software and the ability to push the update to any phone they choose.


    NO it does not

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (DUoqb)

    407 >>Srsly, Denver?


    They only built their lightrail system recently --- it wasn't installed before/as the city itself was built out like DC, Boston, etc.

    From what I've heard, the decisions on where to lay down rail for it was more difficult (less options/open space) and very political (stops based on what various activist groups wanted, not based on commuter needs).

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (NOIQH)

    408 Trump implied Bush was responsible for 9/11 during the debate . When Jeb said GWB kept us safe , Trump interrupted Jeb a couple of times to emphasize that 9/11 happened on GWBs watch.
    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (1g+wZ)

    Not a fan of this. At. All.

    And holy shit, ISIS has chemical weapons and has used them multiple times. Oh my totally god, where did they get them?

    Of all the failures (to a conservative) of the Bush administration, the total lack of pushback on the "lied us into war" narrative will always be the most confounding to me.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (xuouz)

    409 Is there anyone who can make the argument that Trump is a Constitutional Conservative?

    Oddly, I've never heard him mention the Constitution. One supposes that he has had an aide read it, and submit a synopsis.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (n22zQ)

    410 And, of course, get me a sammich.
    Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 17, 2016 10:18 AM (659DL)

    But first.

    They will blow me

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (xuouz)

    411 The Yellow King is my new name for Trump.

    Had an HP Lovecraft podcast yesterday.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 17, 2016 10:20 AM (VdICR)

    412
    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Please take your seats.

    Failure Theater will be starting in 3 minutes.


    Ladies and Gentlemen,

    Please take your seats.

    Failure Theater will be starting in 1 minute.


    *crowd noise*

    *curtain rise*

    *booing starts*


    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/16/

    gop-signs-back-down-vow-block-obama-scotus-

    nominee/

    (remove extra spaces)

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2016 10:20 AM (KUa85)

    413 If the Republicans even THINK of caving on this SCOTUS pick....



    It will be well and truly over. And I won't be remotely civil about it.
    ==========
    Suppose that happens.

    And Trump or Cruz or Rubiot says, "If I win the Presidency, I will increase the Court to 11."

    Will you or will you not do everything in your power to help any one of those win?

    Posted by: Over-Population at February 17, 2016 10:20 AM (fQ/0p)

    414 The ruling from U.S. Magistrate Sheri Pym requires Apple to provide "reasonable technical assistance" to the FBI, namely, software that can disable the security feature that erases data from the iPhone after too many unsuccessful attempts to unlock it.


    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (LTDSy)

    So now that we all know this, why doesn't everyone who commits a crime simply "erase" their cell phone by entering the wrong code?

    Isn't that what the San Bernadino terrorists did?

    Posted by: Jen the original at February 17, 2016 10:21 AM (K0Iz7)

    415 It's Jeb....

    Just being Jeb.

    http://www.weaselzippers.us/?p=257172

    Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 17, 2016 10:21 AM (ptqRm)

    416 NO

    Only with a Court Order

    And Apple retains the work around NOT the Gov

    IT'S A FUCKIN TERRORIST


    There's no way to guarantee that, though. If the government can use the All Writs Act to compel creation of this tool, it can certainly compel Apple to hand it over. In fact, the argument writes itself:

    "It's simply too dangerous to let a powerful tool like this remain in a private company's possession. The government must maintain control of this tool to safeguard it."

    And you keep yelling about this being a "fucking terrorist" like that's supposed to mean something. Are there different evidentiary and investigative rules for terrorists vs non terrorists? How is one determined? If you're on the terrorist watch list, do you no longer have a reasonable expectation of privacy against fishing expeditions on your iPhone?

    Cook is right - decades of Cybersecurity doctrine argue against precisely what Apple is being told to do, outside of the legislative process no less. And I say this as a fervent opponent of what Cook has done to Apple.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:21 AM (PFy0L)

    417 Good morning, all. Looks like Fox is going half Trump and half Rubio
    coverage this morning, with lots and lots of claims of (alleged) Cruz
    shenanigans and lying.


    ---

    There is an old saying that you can't tell a man by his friends, but by his enemies. The GOPe fears Cruz far more than they fear Trump.

    Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 17, 2016 10:22 AM (Qvgg/)

    418 Seriously, I tire of this asinine argument from Trumptards. My college roommate was born in London to two American parents who were working abroad. He's a fucking American in his soul, and legally too. If we're not going to make an issue of Obama's birth and upbringing (and bitching vs *mounting a campaign to disqualify a man from running for the office* are functionally distinct whether your head-up-your-ass pedantry cares to acknowledge the distinction or not) then why the fuck are we going to make an issue of it re: the most conservative candidate I've seen in my voting lifetime?

    Fuuuuuuuuuuuck offffffffff with the Cruz birtherism.
    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:13 AM (xuouz)

    I worked as a civilian contractor, not at any government installation, for more than 15 years in Europe, North Africa and the middle east. I married a foreigner and my son was born in a local hospital. I went to the American embassy and picked up my son's American passport within weeks of his birth. He was always consicered a natural born American citizen.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 10:22 AM (4ng05)

    419 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (n22zQ)


    I've heard him say, "... the 2nd Amendment and all the others ... but that's about it.

    Posted by: Joanne at February 17, 2016 10:22 AM (hgBpU)

    420 >>>Word on the street says Ted Cruz was not only just born in Canada, but
    was delivered into a manger full of poutine while Geddy Lee sang O
    Canada, in a stable on Parliament Hill.<<<

    Cruz Fun Fact: Ted was baptized in a pony keg of Moosehead.

    Posted by: Fritz at February 17, 2016 10:22 AM (UzPAd)

    421 396 ALL TROLLS ARE AVERAGE JOE, WHO IS FOND OF POPPING MALE MEMBERS INTO HIS MOUTH.


    Average Joe (or is it Hector?) runs barefoot through fields of dicks. Backwards.

    Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 17, 2016 10:23 AM (HMt16)

    422 And lets the genie out of the bottle to do it to all iPhones.

    It's axiomatic. Cook tries to explain it in his letter.
    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:10 AM (PFy0L)

    Here is what Cook says:
    Specifically, the FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation. In the wrong hands, this software which does not exist today would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone's physical possession.

    The FBI may use different words to describe this tool, but make no mistake: Building a version of iOS that bypasses security in this way would undeniably create a backdoor. And while the government may argue that its use would be limited to this case, there is no way to guarantee such control.


    I don't see what Apple can't maintain possession of the phone while it is cracked and then remove the new software once done.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:23 AM (LTDSy)

    423 Of all the failures (to a conservative) of the Bush administration, the total lack of pushback on the "lied us into war" narrative will always be the most confounding to me.
    Posted by: Ghost
    ---------------

    I think GWB did the best that could be done under the circumstances, without much regard for popular appeal.

    One thing he did *not* do, was blame previous administrations for the steaming plate of crap that he inherited from them.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:24 AM (n22zQ)

    424 Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (LTDSy)

    I don't buy that the court really has any understanding of how encryption and security works. Sort of akin to how we'd cry foul when we hear that something is a "common sense gun control measure."

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 10:24 AM (KUaJL)

    425 When I read here or the other news on what Trump said, I am bothered.

    But, when I hear Trump unfiltered, live--I can easily vote for him.

    The massive media bias against him is undeniable.

    I'm still for Cruz until it's over.

    Posted by: Over-Population at February 17, 2016 10:24 AM (fQ/0p)

    426 There is no free will without both good and evil in the world.


    Yeah, but why is evil always winning these days?

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 10:24 AM (LUgeY)

    427 There's no way to guarantee that, though. If the government can use the All Writs Act to compel creation of this tool, it can certainly compel Apple to hand it over. In fact, the argument writes itself:

    "It's simply too dangerous to let a powerful tool like this remain in a private company's possession. The government must maintain control of this tool to safeguard it."

    And you keep yelling about this being a "fucking terrorist" like that's supposed to mean something. Are there different evidentiary and investigative rules for terrorists vs non terrorists? How is one determined? If you're on the terrorist watch list, do you no longer have a reasonable expectation of privacy against fishing expeditions on your iPhone?

    Cook is right - decades of Cybersecurity doctrine argue against precisely what Apple is being told to do, outside of the legislative process no less. And I say this as a fervent opponent of what Cook has done to Apple.
    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:21 AM (PFy0L)


    Sorry that is just wrong. No One has an absolute right to privacy. And just because Cook says something does not make it so. There is a long Legal History of Courts forcing disclosures. And yeah Fuckin Terrorism is different. And there is NO doubt these cock suckers were terrorists, or do you think they were "freedom fighters".

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:25 AM (DUoqb)

    428 >>>Word on the street says Ted Cruz was not only just born in Canada, but
    was delivered into a manger full of poutine while Geddy Lee sang O
    Canada, in a stable on Parliament Hill.

    Cruz Fun Fact: Ted was baptized in a pony keg of Moosehead.
    Posted by: Fritz
    --------------------

    His parents were known to associate with Loonies.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:25 AM (n22zQ)

    429 I'm sure ISIS appreciates the aid and comfort being provided by Tim Cook. Maybe they'll send him some Shari's Berries as a thank you. Or a basket of heads.

    Posted by: Lincolntf at February 17, 2016 10:25 AM (2cS/G)

    430 Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (NOIQH)

    You'd just think that a major, hub airport like that would have access to Amtrak right there at the airport, or at least very close by. Been through there a lot but never wanted to transfer to the train so I never noticed.

    I do like that airport in general. Not at the moment though.

    Posted by: WhatWhatWhat? at February 17, 2016 10:26 AM (HMt16)

    431 Sewell's endorsement is a BFD, or at least it should be, in a country with better informed voters.

    Posted by: stace at February 17, 2016 10:26 AM (ozZau)

    432 Yeah, but why is evil always winning these days?

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 10:24 AM (LUgeY)


    _____________________________________________

    Because a lot of people are choosing to go to hell.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 10:26 AM (rsudF)

    433 Grassley
    Hatch
    Sessions
    Graham
    Cornyn
    Lee
    Cruz
    Flake
    Vitter
    Perdue
    Tillis

    Leahy
    Feinstein
    Schumer
    Durbin
    Whitehouse
    Klobuchar
    Franken
    Coons
    Blumenthal

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:26 AM (wzYhq)

    434 Failure Theater will be starting in 1 minute.
    Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2016 10:20 AM (KUa85)

    If they fuck this up I will see McConnell in hell

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:26 AM (xuouz)

    435 Because a lot of people are choosing to go to hell.
    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 10:26 AM (rsudF)
    If they fuck this up I will see McConnell in hell
    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR

    Heh

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:27 AM (xuouz)

    436 422 I don't see what Apple can't maintain possession of the phone while it is cracked and then remove the new software once done.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:23 AM (LTDSy)
    ----------------------------------------------------

    if that's the case there is no controversy. But that's not the genie-out-of-the-bottle claim Cook makes. And lets remember, there are other governments who will make the same demand.

    I suppose the truth of the matter is that there exists zero, nada, none privacy from government or corporate intrusion.

    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 10:27 AM (TxJGV)

    437 Thoughts and prayers from the Horde would be appreciated.


    I'd suggest getting a blog. Maybe write a book or something.

    Posted by: Roland THTG at February 17, 2016 10:27 AM (QM5S2)

    438 It will be well and truly over. And I won't be remotely civil about it.

    ===

    I started to give a fuck, but then I had a Snickers bar and I'm back to my usual self.

    Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 10:28 AM (3ZtZW)

    439 432 Sewell's endorsement is a BFD, or at least it should be, in a country with better informed voters.

    Posted by: stace at February 17, 2016 10:26 AM (ozZau)

    Yep.

    Sadly we are lacking the latter.

    Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 17, 2016 10:28 AM (Lixdp)

    440 I'll say this about Apple: You and I know damned good and well Apple has given the ChiComs backdoor access to Iphones.

    I'll bet good money that was the up-front, this-first-or-nothing condition before they opened a single factory in China.

    And, as someone else mentioned, what if they said something bad about the fags, would he make the same "stand?"

    Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2016 10:28 AM (fQ/0p)

    441 Trump might not be as conspiracy-theory minded as Obama might have been. I think when someone is elected, they get shown secret files, and then they are deeply and suddenly quiet and serious.

    I imagine Obama telling generals to take him to Area 51. They break the rust off the locks and he sees a possum named Bitey.

    Still the Yellow King has shit the bed bad enough that I might volunteer for Cruz.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 17, 2016 10:29 AM (VdICR)

    442 Of all the failures (to a conservative) of the Bush administration, the total lack of pushback on the "lied us into war" narrative will always be the most confounding to me.
    Posted by: Ghost

    Yeah, I think it was Cheney that cited that as a regret? I would have the list of the 23 Dems that voted for the AUMF (Clinton and Kerry, just to name two) and point it out. If Clinton were to say anything about this during a debate, I would ask if she somehow did not have access to the same information at the time. She was a senator who at any time could have received a classified briefing in addition to the closed door sessions they had in the run up to the AUMF vote.

    Posted by: Mainah at February 17, 2016 10:29 AM (659DL)

    443 I think GWB did the best that could be done under the circumstances, without much regard for popular appeal.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:24 AM (n22zQ)

    The housing act, TARP, never holding Reid to account for filibustering every single lower court nominee, abandoning the cultural battlefield generally and the WMD narrative specifically (when there are stories in the goddamn NYT about chemical weapons caches that were found in Iraq) and the culmination of all those small failures in the election of Barack Obama are all reasons that while I admire GWB as a man, he was an abject failure as president.

    And now he's stumping for Jeb.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:29 AM (xuouz)

    444 Nice ending to the HBO documentary. I urge people to watch it. The terrorist sister is shilling all over the place with him. She met with a gov terrorist analyst who tho sympathetic pretty much bitch slapped her.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 10:30 AM (iQIUe)

    445 This is sadly hilarious.


    How's that $100M feeling now GOPe suckaz?


    Jeb finally declares his political affiliation:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEDf98fU4dg



    If this doesn't make somebody's ad, I'll be very surprised.

    Posted by: naturalfake at February 17, 2016 10:30 AM (KUa85)

    446 I'll say this about Apple: You and I know damned good and well Apple has given the ChiComs backdoor access to Iphones.
    Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2016 10:28 AM (fQ/0p)

    It's part and parcel with "made in china"

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:30 AM (xuouz)

    447 And there is NO doubt these cock suckers were terrorists, or do you think they were "freedom fighters".
    Posted by: Nevergiveup
    ---------

    Bah! They were highly sensitive members of another culture, with which they self-identified. They were triggered by the hostile life-environment of California. They were the victims!... they were the victims!

    Posted by: SJW at February 17, 2016 10:31 AM (n22zQ)

    448 I'm sure the software on this one phone can be modified to not require a password. I'm a 'high level' programmer (or was) with some knowledge of the low level stuff.

    The routine to enter password is simply modified to not work. Take a low level techy a couple hours to write, if they don't already have it available.

    Then hand the phone to the FBI. Methinks Cook has some other motive behind his actions.

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 10:31 AM (fbovC)

    449 Trump implied Bush was responsible for 9/11 during
    the debate . When Jeb said GWB kept us safe , Trump interrupted Jeb a
    couple of times to emphasize that 9/11 happened on GWBs watch.


    Trump wasn't trying just to give us an accurate timeline.Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:15 AM (1g+wZ)
    ________

    What really bothers me about DT's claims is his repeated use of the word 'reign' in his comments. I think this is how he sees the POTUS -- as a 'reign' rather than an administration.

    Posted by: mustbequantum at February 17, 2016 10:31 AM (MIKMs)

    450 Natural born citizen means nothing needed to be done after you were born to make you a Citizen.

    It does not require you were born in the USA or USA territory.

    Posted by: eman at February 17, 2016 10:31 AM (MQEz6)

    451 Fox now showing live: Donald Trump Holds Event 3 Days Before South Carolina Primary.


    One thing I have to say to Trump's credit, he has no effective ground game in S.C. but goes on every teevee show that asks. Seems to be working out pretty damn good for him so far.

    Posted by: Joanne at February 17, 2016 10:32 AM (hgBpU)

    452 Who is Sewell-lite? If I want to convert someone, and give them just one book, what would it be? Sewell is too dry for anyone but the already-converted.

    Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 17, 2016 10:32 AM (VdICR)

    453 Which documentary Bruce?

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:32 AM (xuouz)

    454
    Obama will stay active by collecting undeserved awards and cash but mostly playing golf.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 10:32 AM (iQIUe)

    455 Mexico is the new China?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:33 AM (DUoqb)

    456 Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 17, 2016 10:32 AM (VdICR)

    Nobody.

    Try "Economic Facts And Fallacies." it's a pretty accessible book, with great real-life examples.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:33 AM (Zu3d9)

    457 Natural born citizen means nothing needed to be done after you were born to make you a Citizen.

    It does not require you were born in the USA or USA territory.

    Posted by: eman at February 17, 2016 10:31 AM (MQEz6)

    This.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (4ng05)

    458 I came into a place where all light is silent, that
    groans like the sea in a storm, when it is lashed by
    conflicting winds.
    The infernal whirlwind, which never rests, drives
    the spirits before its violence; turning and striking, it
    tortures them.
    When they come before the landslide, there the
    shrieks, the wailing, the lamenting; there they curse
    God's power.
    I understood that this torment were damned
    the carnal sinners, who subject their reason to their
    lust.
    And as their wings carry off the starlings in the
    cold season, in large full flocks, so does that breath
    carry the evil spirits
    here, there, down, up; no hope ever comforts them,
    not of lessened suffering, much less of rest.

    Inferno, V

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (wzYhq)

    459 Sorry that is just wrong. No One has an absolute right to privacy. And
    just because Cook says something does not make it so. There is a long
    Legal History of Courts forcing disclosures. And yeah Fuckin Terrorism
    is different. And there is NO doubt these cock suckers were terrorists,
    or do you think they were "freedom fighters".


    There is a long legal history of courts forcing disclosures, but there is not a long legal history of courts forcing a tech company to defeat the encryption on a phone. And just because a court orders something doesn't mean it's possible anyway - Apple has made it perfectly clear that it is largely unable to defeat the encryption on its devices, by design.

    What's happening here is the FBI is trying to get Apple to do something beyond what the All Writs Act is supposed to enable And it's pretty shameful, I think.

    Oh, and your statement illustrates just how slippery this slope is. If I have a problem with misusing the heavy hand of government in this instance, well, I must be some kind of sympathizer and therefore a target for MY iPhone being hacked too. Isn't that what you're suggesting in your last sentence?

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (PFy0L)

    460 Policy: Trump's supported partial-birth abortion. His position on healthcare is left of Obamacare -- he wants to have Medicare set drug prices. His position on Iraq is "take their oil." His position on Syria is let Russia take over and also create a fabulous safe zone "on the beach" (because hey, beachfront property!) and have the Chinese build factories (because hey, Chinese people love to build factories! even in war zones!). His position on immigration seems is deport all illegals at massive expense, build a wall, get Mexico to pay for it --- and then let everyone back in! Yes, Trump supports amnesty for all. Except the Muslims, even if they're citizens, which, btw,is grossly unconstitutional not to mention bigoted.

    Character: Trump University appears to have been little more than a scam, according to state prosecutors. Trump's a draft-dodger who said McCain wasn't a real war hero. He tried to use eminent domain to force an old woman out of her home to expand his casino. He told a baldfaced lie in the debates about being "loudly" against invading Iraq, but there is no record of his opposition before 2003 and his 2000 book strongly supports the invasion. He's called his opponents "anchor baby" and "p****y" and questioned their citizenship and said their faces are ugly and that they're fake war heroes and bad doctors. He's been divorced twice with at least three separate allegation of abuse.

    If Trump didn't have low-information supporters, he wouldn't have any.

    Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (74ZYB)

    461 lol can you so totally not stand the way Donald Trump says CHEYE NA

    Haha omg I know. It's so annoying the way he says CHEYE NA

    haha CHEYE NA

    Posted by: What you hear at any random point on the podcast at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (xuouz)

    462 I want Cruz but its looking like Trump vs Clinton

    the new dem meme is she is so competent.


    based on what? says who? in graft and pay for play?

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (zOTsN)

    463 Yeah, but why is evil always winning these days?



    Because those that can stand up to it don't feel like having their lives ruined.

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (ohWrE)

    464 John Kerry Says World Leaders Already Hate Donald Trump: I Hear About It Everywhere



    Does he also hear them laughing at him when he turns around?

    Weasel Zippers

    Remember State and DOD at least pretended to be nonpartisan?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (DUoqb)

    465 >>You'd just think that a major, hub airport like that would have access
    to Amtrak right there at the airport, or at least very close by.

    They are planning to have the lightrail go to the airport.
    Fun fact: the land in which DIA was built was previously owned by one of the biggest lobbyists in Denver. There are parts of the site in which the soil is unstable. They've already had to move the toll booths once because instability, and it's also why they built the care rental sites, gas and food places on the exit side. And then there's that hideous horse sculpture that killed its maker....

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (NOIQH)

    466 Obama telling generals to take him to Area 51

    ===

    You know he was born about 9 months after the Roswell crash, right?

    *speculation about aliens and livestock may commence*

    Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (3ZtZW)

    467 I keep getting a pop-up, looks like malware.

    A "site security certificate" thing, in about a 4"x4" grey page.

    Only happens in AoS comments, not the main page, or any other sites.

    Is anyone else experiencing a similar problem, here? Any cures? Thanks!


    Jim
    Sunk New Dawn
    Galveston, TX

    Posted by: Jim at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (McRlu)

    468 425 When I read here or the other news on what Trump said, I am bothered.

    But, when I hear Trump unfiltered, live--I can easily vote for him.

    The massive media bias against him is undeniable.

    I'm still for Cruz until it's over.
    Posted by: Over-Population at February 17, 2016 10:24 AM (fQ/0p)

    ------------------------

    People can get crazy with the anti-Trump stuff.

    I asked this yesterday but didn't see an answer from any Cruz supporters (maybe I missed it). Do you support Cruz's plan for a VAT tax?

    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (LXJ1e)

    469 * Apple creates an OS update that bypasses the data wipe after X wrong password entries.
    * Apple sets up an environment where the phone auto-updates and receives the new "unlocked" OS.
    * Apple turns phone over to FBI who can now access the decryption key and un-encrypt everything on the phone.
    * FBI dumps the new "unlocked" OS from the phone and sets up an environment where they can get any phone in their possession to receive it as an auto-update.

    Everybody clear on this now?

    Posted by: db at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (Wozau)

    470 NO it does not
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:19 AM (DUoqb)

    They want possession of the phone with the hacked OS. So, technically, they do. I see Cook's point there, but he doesn't offer the obvious compromise.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (LTDSy)

    471
    One thing I have to say to Trump's credit, he has no effective ground game in S.C. but goes on every teevee show that asks. Seems to be working out pretty damn good for him so far.

    Posted by: Joanne at February 17, 2016 10:32 AM (hgBpU)



    I don't know. Yesterday someone talked about getting phone calls from the campaigns. A bunch of robocalls. And then an actual person for Trump's.

    Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (zt+N6)

    472 Feh have you read Ciardi's translation?

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (xuouz)

    473 Shorter TallDave: Donald Trump is an asshole.

    Why, yes. I do believe he is.

    Posted by: Cloyd Freud, Unemployed at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (u5gzz)

    474 "Jeb said GWB kept us safe , Trump interrupted Jeb a couple of times to emphasize that 9/11 happened on GWBs watch." max rock'

    Trump alos says "that is not keeping US safe". The buck stops with the president, he can't pick and choose history (only the left can do that) ...

    becoming president starts well before the swearing in. "Kept US Safe" is a Bush mantra, and often used defensively because the war was not going so well. Like "well, at least he kept us safe here".

    I was OK with them exaggerating the nuke thing, but I now wonder what plan they had for the rebuilding. The Biden "three state nation" (or whatever he called it back then), almost sounds reasonable at this point. But too late for that ... not sure we will even back the Kurds. Blame Obama sure, but that had to be anticipated.

    Posted by: Illiniwek at February 17, 2016 10:36 AM (5Gpe2)

    475 Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (zOTsN)


    I could watch this all day.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGxN9H-I8t8feature=youtu.be

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:36 AM (Zu3d9)

    476 Remember kids, the unstoppable Newt Gingrich juggernaut took 40% in SC in 2012. Game, set and match!

    Just keep Trump under 40% and Crubiushson can eventually beat him.

    Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 10:36 AM (74ZYB)

    477 "the new dem meme is she is so competent"

    at high-level criminal malfeasance, there are few better

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:36 AM (wzYhq)

    478 but there is not a long legal history of courts forcing a tech company to defeat the encryption on a phone.

    Yeah actually there is a history of tech companies being court ordered

    And your motives? I have no idea, but I think you seem to have a problem recognizing legitimate National Security

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:37 AM (DUoqb)

    479 322 Actually I'm just reading widely. By birth and upbringing I'm a Lutheran but mainstream Lutheranism is less than inspiring, which is why I'm currently seeking. I'm not an atheist and my agnosticism is getting harder and harder to justify. So now I'm ready to make choices.
    Posted by: joncelli

    Before giving up on the Lutherans entirely, I would recommend reading "The Spirituality of the Cross" by Gene Veith.

    Posted by: Rarity at February 17, 2016 10:37 AM (ZsASx)

    480 I'm so sick of this "Bush Lied" shit. On October 16, 2002, the date of the Iraq War Resolution vote, the donkeys controlled the Senate. They saw EVERYTHING the Bush Admin saw and 29 of them voted FOR it. Among those were Clinton, Kerry, Harry Reed ( the alleged pederast) and Chuck-U Schumer.

    The Trumptard needs to dial this shit back and focus on what a fucking disaster TFG has been as President and how HE lost the war by pulling out and leaving the vacuum to be filled by ISIS.

    Stop fucking attacking and tell us what YOU will do in more detail than "It'll be so great, you'll see"

    Posted by: Timon at February 17, 2016 10:37 AM (KSonr)

    481 Is CBD still around?
    I scored on a nice 5lb pork shoulder yesterday ($4) & need a decent recipe to roast it. Or maybe smoke/grill it?
    I don't want to just make crock pot bbq...

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 10:37 AM (OUpHg)

    482 BackwardsBoy: Yeah, but why is evil always winning these days?

    Making the most smoke and noise is not "winning."

    Witness the referenced comments that generated this theological question. TSF posts many time with the same one note. Oddly, "saying something loud enough and often enough" is not convincing, at least on here. But Seamus's one gem of sarcastic retort? Winning!

    Posted by: mindful webworker - theo logically at February 17, 2016 10:37 AM (SqM8E)

    483 kari

    not yet

    I like the Durling a lot - he gets how tough and terse the Tuscan is

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:38 AM (wzYhq)

    484 The way Trump says China is far less annoying than the way Obama says Tol-ee-bohn and Pahk-ee-stahn.

    Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2016 10:38 AM (zt+N6)

    485 NGU,

    The "they're terrorists" argument would hold some weight if it wasn't for this Administration's track record on who it considers "terrorists".

    Therefore, I cannot now or ever trust the Feds with tools and capabilities of this kind.

    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 10:38 AM (9krrF)

    486 It's 'Sowell', folks, S-o-w-e-l-l

    Posted by: SJW at February 17, 2016 10:39 AM (n22zQ)

    487 This thread is starting to smell of overly tenderized dead horse.

    Posted by: Buzzsaw at February 17, 2016 10:39 AM (XtAzU)

    488 Trump's finally released a detailed policy paper:

    1. Elect Donald Trump
    2. ???
    3. Make America Great Again!

    Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 10:39 AM (74ZYB)

    489 They want possession of the phone with the hacked OS. So, technically, they do. I see Cook's point there, but he doesn't offer the obvious compromise.
    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (LTDSy)

    Yeah not really. Apple could change the code again after the gov has the phone to their original work around would no longer work on any other phone. And the Gov can NOT give up custody of the phone...I mean come on now?

    The distrust of Gov ( and well earned I might add) has blinded some absolutes here to what national Security is. Sigh

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:39 AM (DUoqb)

    490 Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 10:37 AM (OUpHg)

    I always make pulled pork with it......

    I have a great oven recipe for that, with an equally fantastic sauce made from the drippings.

    If you want it, shoot me an e-mail at nynjmeet at optimum dot net

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 17, 2016 10:40 AM (Zu3d9)

    491 I could watch this all day.

    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



    poor old drunk

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:40 AM (zOTsN)

    492 Obama Vows to Stay 'Very Active in the Public Life of This Country'

    Threat received.

    Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 17, 2016 10:40 AM (evdj2)

    493 Trump Super Fan, you are the reason bloggers give up and websites shut down. You are the loud and proud and strong and wrong voice of the populist democratic kryptonite that is the only thing that can topple a constitutional republic. You are easy mac and a netflix binge. You are the cancer that is killing /b/.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:40 AM (xuouz)

    494 I keep waiting for Trump to suffer that 5 or 6 point drop in the polls that was predicted after his debate performance last Saturday...........I'm still waiting.

    Cruz appears to be having some trouble holding on to second place. Some polls show Rubio in second.

    Posted by: Stay out da bushes at February 17, 2016 10:40 AM (rZJS9)

    495 The "they're terrorists" argument would hold some weight if it wasn't for this Administration's track record on who it considers "terrorists".

    Therefore, I cannot now or ever trust the Feds with tools and capabilities of this kind.
    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 10:38 AM (9krrF)

    Give me a fuckin break. if you don't recognize the San Bernadino Shooters as terrorists, then we have nothing more to discuss.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:40 AM (DUoqb)

    496

    someone tell me what she did other than trick a horndog into marrying her lesbian ass

    what are her accomplishments?

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (zOTsN)

    497 Yeah actually there is a history of tech companies being court ordered



    And your motives? I have no idea, but I think you seem to have a problem recognizing legitimate National Security


    Being ordered is different than being able to comply. A court could order me to levitate in the air like Magneto, but that's different than me actually being able to do it.

    And gee, I seem to recall lots of noise being made 15-some years ago about granting powers and abilities to the government in the name of national security. Didn't the NSA kind of run with that argument a while ago.....?

    If the FBI can legitimately hack into the phone, then lovely. But misusing the law to compel Apple to do what it's being told to do is just wrong, and in fact destroys the idea of freedom and privacy in the name of saving it.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (eytER)

    498 Stop fucking attacking and tell us what YOU will do in more detail than "It'll be so great, you'll see"
    Posted by: Timon
    ----------------

    It'll be yuuge... and classy. I'll make terrific deals.

    Posted by: The Donald at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (n22zQ)

    499 >> You are the cancer that is killing

    Think he/she/it is the latest incarnation of our on-again, off-again morning "Hector."

    Better to just not feed, or quote, the troll.

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (NOIQH)

    500 We've won back second amendment rights, and some fourth amendment cases
    as well. We've seen the GOP, as wimpy as it is, take the House and

    Senate- entirely because of the Tea Party - and an unprecedented number

    of state houses and governorships.
    =========
    If I may?

    2nd Amendment? Oh, you mean the ruling that DC promptly ignored? The defendant in that case? The ruling that multiple states and several Circuits said was limited in scope and really didn't apply all that much anyway? That "settled" law which is so settled it's already back before the Court?

    4th Amendment? Gutted and dead for 20 years. Every since that bitch O'Conner said DWI checkpoints were totally Constitutional at least. Maybe even before that when the Shitty Court said, "cars are different, the 4th doesn't really apply when it comes to cars."

    House and Senate? Which has . . . done fuck-all to stop the Dems. To the point that there are ZERO legislative victories. To the point that--if you saw only the results, not the makeup of the membership--you'd swear the Democrats controlled both chambers.

    Statehouses and governorships? Yeah?And they are doing, what exactly, to expand the freedom and liberty of the citizens? What are they doing to pare back the size, scope and reach of government? To their credit, there is the only pushback against the Obama. But, they are limited because they are not committed to the last, full measure.

    Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (fQ/0p)

    501 Being ordered is different than being able to comply. A court could order me to levitate in the air like Magneto, but that's different than me actually being able to do it.


    Funny? But cook NEVER makes the argument he can't comply. LMAO

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (DUoqb)

    502 If Cruz was born on the freakin 4th moon of Saturn - his Mama is a US citizen....................period - end of story


    Posted by: Katfish at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (ponaz)

    503 492 Obama Vows to Stay 'Very Active in the Public Life of This Country'

    Threat received.

    Posted by: Grump928(c) at February 17, 2016 10:40 AM (evdj2



    I laugh at the people who thought "This will be the last Super Bowl that will be polluted with the JEF"

    Posted by: buzzion at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (zt+N6)

    504 what are her accomplishments?

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (zOTsN)


    _____________________________________________

    She once barked like a dog.

    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (rsudF)

    505 >>what are her accomplishments?


    Can't think of any *legal* ones, only crimes...

    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (NOIQH)

    506 382
    It will be great to see a Trump administration hunt Obama down and capture him with Seal Team Six in some safe harbor country and have him marched out in perp orange and cuffs from some military transport at Andrews for his treasonous activities.
    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:14 AM (LXJ1e)


    {redacted}

    Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (zoehZ)

    507 tell us what YOU will do in more detail

    ===

    He's said a lot already in his speeches which has been constituent speech to speech, and has posted several positions on his website - if you're interested, which you may not be. Maybe you just want to call everybody LIV and not look into it at all. I understand.

    Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (3ZtZW)

    508 what are her accomplishments?
    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (zOTsN)


    Almost single-handedly she destroyed everything that Qaddafi created in Lybia

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (q2o38)

    509 if that's the case there is no controversy. But that's not the genie-out-of-the-bottle claim Cook makes. And lets remember, there are other governments who will make the same demand.
    Posted by: MTF at February 17, 2016 10:27 AM (TxJGV)

    Foreign governments make demands all of the time against multinational corps. I don't see how this applies unless Apple was just giving the hack away to every government.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (LTDSy)

    510 BREAKING: Trump 2016 campaign releases official campaign song:

    Time to go to work, make America great, elect Donald Trump hey!
    We won't stop till we elect Donald Trump,
    Yom tom, yommy-tom tay!

    Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (74ZYB)

    511 Yeah not really. Apple could change the code again after the gov has the
    phone to their original work around would no longer work on any other
    phone. And the Gov can NOT give up custody of the phone...I mean come on
    now?



    The distrust of Gov ( and well earned I might add) has blinded some absolutes here to what national Security is. Sigh


    Apple can change the code all it wants, but again...once this precedent is set, it doesn't matter. They can be forced to circumvent their own measures that would defeat the use of the original tool via the same expansive reading of the All Writs Act.

    Even if such a thing was possible which I'm not convinced about.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (eytER)

    512 I doubt we'll see Ace today. As part of the ritual of returning to the Horde from Hot Gas, I kicked $100 into his tip jar (business was good this year).

    It was supposed to go toward a new barrel but he's probably gone on a bender instead.

    Posted by: VidOmnia at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (56u+o)

    513 Almost single-handedly she destroyed everything that Qaddafi created in Lybia
    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (q2o3

    Well that Senile old bastard from AZ helped her on that one

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (DUoqb)

    514 Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (LXJ1e)

    And you were told before that Cruz's tax plan is not a VAT plan.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (1g+wZ)

    515 504 what are her accomplishments?

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (zOTsN)

    _____________________________________________

    She once barked like a dog.
    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (rsudF)

    But she had distemper. These things happen.

    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (4ng05)

    516 The housing act, TARP, never holding Reid to account for filibustering every single lower court nominee, abandoning the cultural battlefield generally and the WMD narrative specifically (when there are stories in the goddamn NYT about chemical weapons caches that were found in Iraq) and the culmination of all those small failures in the election of Barack Obama are all reasons that while I admire GWB as a man, he was an abject failure as president.

    And now he's stumping for Jeb.
    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:29 AM (xuouz)
    ------------------------

    Some people may not like Trump's comments on Bush, but if Bush won't defend himself why should anyone else? In fact, if Bush cedes the entire ground to the enemy (the Dems) it will always be a losing battle to defend him.

    Also consider the fact that Bush himself gave a black eye to the conservative movement with his "compassionate conservative" talk (implying that conservatives aren't normally compassionate).

    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (LXJ1e)

    517 Apple can change the code all it wants, but again...once this precedent is set, it doesn't matter. They can be forced to circumvent their own measures that would defeat the use of the original tool via the same expansive reading of the All Writs Act.

    Even if such a thing was possible which I'm not convinced about.
    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (enter)

    So you don't believe in the supremacy of the Law of the Land and Court Orders?

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (DUoqb)

    518 About 5 years ago this American Jewish twat went to Israel and tried to disrupt the annual Jerusalem parade. He was arrested because the kept running into the street with his pali flag. He is still whining about it. I looked him up on FB and he is now living in Venezuela writing for some ultra lefty magazine. Bet he doesnt have to stand in long lines for toilet paper.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (iQIUe)

    519 Feminism is an ideology that appeals to, and expresses the interests of, women who are mentally ill, emotionally damaged and sexually deviant. There are still plenty of sane, happy, normal women in the world, so why would any man waste time dating angry lunatics?

    --Dating advice from Robert Stacy McCain

    Posted by: OregonMuse at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (mI6S9)

    520 "he's probably gone on a bender instead"

    it is the Way of the Horde

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (wzYhq)

    521 Russia to start delivery of S-300 missiles to Iran


    Thanks TFG. You piece of shit.

    Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (KCQo0)

    522 what are her accomplishments?
    Posted by: ThunderB
    ------------------

    From the Left's perspective, all that matters is her attitude, and the fact that she has engaged in counter-culturist activities with no penalties.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (n22zQ)

    523 kari
    not yet
    I like the Durling a lot - he gets how tough and terse the Tuscan is
    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:38 AM (wzYhq)

    I cannot recommend it strongly enough. If you get a chance to get your hands on it, just read his "translator's note" at the beginning. His reasoning for adopting the bastard terzerima he ends up settling on (each stanza aba, cdc, etc) and the examples he gives of settling on a certain translation as the best he can do is as beautiful as any given canto.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (xuouz)

    524
    her accomplishment is marrying a man who became president and riding his infidelity into the senate and the state department

    likewise

    WTF has the Clinton Foundation done? they have talks. they tlak and talk and talk and take donations

    do they do anything? other than pay for play?

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:45 AM (zOTsN)

    525
    Remember kids, the unstoppable Newt Gingrich juggernaut took 40% in SC in 2012. Game, set and match! Just keep Trump under 40% and Crubiushson can eventually beat him.
    Posted by: TallDave


    Fall is usually cherry picking time:

    1980: Ronald Reagan won with 55%
    1984: Uncontested
    1988: George H. W. Bush won with 49%
    1992: George H. W. Bush won with 67%
    1996: Bob Dole won with 45%
    2000: George W. Bush won with 53%
    2004: Uncontested
    2008: John McCain won with 33%
    2012: Newt Gingrich won with 40%

    Note the general trend.

    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 10:45 AM (kdS6q)

    526 "why would any man waste time dating angry lunatics?"

    who said they were men?

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:45 AM (wzYhq)

    527
    Funny? But cook NEVER makes the argument he can't comply. LMAO


    "For many years, we have used encryption to protect our customers'
    personal data because we believe it's the only way to keep their
    information safe. We have even put that data out of our own reach,
    because we believe the contents of your iPhone are none of our business."



    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:45 AM (eytER)

    528 I think all these republicans who are saying "anybody but Trump" like Nikki Haley are missing the point

    they dont seem to understand that the base is angry at the party


    WHY dint they get behind Cruz then? they suck

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:46 AM (zOTsN)

    529 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (DUoqb)

    I hate my hash. I say the most painful, hateful and depressed things and it still ends with a smiley when I am quoted.

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 10:46 AM (q2o38)

    530 it sounds interesting kari, I'll check it out

    it's pretty good in the original, too

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:46 AM (wzYhq)

    531 Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (3ZtZW)

    I've read his position statements from now, from the start of his campaign and from before his campaign. It should make you question what they may change to at any time in the future.

    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:46 AM (1g+wZ)

    532 Funny? But cook NEVER makes the argument he can't comply. LMAO

    "For many years, we have used encryption to protect our customers'
    personal data because we believe it's the only way to keep their
    information safe. We have even put that data out of our own reach,
    because we believe the contents of your iPhone are none of our business."



    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:45 AM (enter)

    Oh please that is double talk non denial denial bullshit. You can't really believe Apple can't change the code to let the Gov in? Don't let your views blind you to reality.

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:47 AM (DUoqb)

    533 >>And lets remember, there are other governments who will make the same demand.


    Got news for you - foreign governments make unbelievable demands to access telecom company subscriber activities all the time (that are complied with). I worked for an international telco in the late 90's and we had governments that required we provide them an onsite office, with a door that locked, in which their people could sit and listen to calls whenever they wanted. In China they just up and decided that they would take over our local affiliate from its owners (nice telecom business ya got there, it's now ours, and USA HQ must now renegotiate all terms of doing business here to our liking). Heck, even in Canada they don't require subpoenas to demand records (unless something's changed recently).


    Posted by: Lizzy at February 17, 2016 10:47 AM (NOIQH)

    534

    none of them will get behind Cruz. They would rather go down in flames, with fifty GOPe candidates, than to get behind Cruz. They deserve everything thats coming, Hillary or Trump

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:47 AM (zOTsN)

    535 So you don't believe in the supremacy of the Law of the Land and Court Orders?

    I don't believe in all powerful government stomping over the citizenry it is supposed to serve.

    I don't believe in the jackboot standing on the face of humanity.

    I thought these were more or less universal beliefs.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:48 AM (eytER)

    536 48 My sister in Christ-Grammie might enjoy this story.

    A very poor Christian in Uganda still has the joy of the Lord-and a winning smile:

    Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 17, 2016 08:59 AM (w4NZ

    I had the great privilege of meeting many like that last month.

    Posted by: Northernlurker at February 17, 2016 10:48 AM (hJrjt)

    537 So if some candidates and presidents are "Teflon" and others are "Velcro", then what's Hillary?

    You can't say anything sticks to her, but that *stench* still remains....

    Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 10:48 AM (3ZtZW)

    538 Stop fucking attacking and tell us what YOU will do in more detail than "It'll be so great, you'll see"
    Posted by: Timon

    Donald Trump has two settings: Attack; and Attack!

    I recall many on the starboard side of politics bemoaning the fact that none of their candidates would ever attack. Well, here you go. Donald Trump is not a conservative or right or anything like that, but by golly does the man like to attack. He attacks candidates - Hillary, Jeb, Cruz. He attacks proxies - Bill, Dubya.
    He attacks from the Right.
    He attacks from the Left.
    He attacks from the Center.
    He always attacks.

    To ask Donald Trump not to attack is to ask the fire not to burn.

    Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Glower Sticks and Other Emergency Supplies! at February 17, 2016 10:48 AM (hLRSq)

    539 For newcomers, Tall Dave is a Rubio supporter, amigos.

    Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2016 10:48 AM (WOyz5)

    540 And you were told before that Cruz's tax plan is not a VAT plan.
    Posted by: Max Rockatansky at February 17, 2016 10:43 AM (1g+wZ)

    -----------------

    It is too.

    Here is the key finding from the Tax Foundation:

    The Cruz plan will "replace the corporate income tax and all payroll taxes with a 16 percent Business Transfer Tax, or subtraction method-value added tax."


    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:49 AM (LXJ1e)

    541 Funny? But cook NEVER makes the argument he can't comply. LMAO
    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (DUoqb)

    He implicitly says they can do it. He just killed Apple's defense there.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:49 AM (LTDSy)

    542 If you want it, shoot me an e-mail at
    Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
    --------------
    Will do. Thanks.

    As to your "latest trip" video - Hillaryous!
    I wonder why that isn't on TV 24/7 like Gerald Ford was back in the day? I was about 10 at the time, and I remember seeing that clip non-stop...

    Posted by: Chi at February 17, 2016 10:49 AM (OUpHg)

    543 Some people may not like Trump's comments on Bush, but if Bush won't defend himself why should anyone else? In fact, if Bush cedes the entire ground to the enemy (the Dems) it will always be a losing battle to defend him.
    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:44 AM (LXJ1e)

    Totally. I was thinking this re: the cosmo gunsplainer issue. How come the proletarian left gets spoonfed its arguments by its leadership, how come the proles of the left are defended by their public figures, while the proletarian right is forced to do the dirty work of defending its leadership without any backup? While being stabbed in the back by "conservative" public figures, in fact?

    re: GWB, maybe it's just stockholm syndrome but any enemy of the left is worth at least a passing defense. And the keelhauling that man took during his two terms was far from passing. That's all I can settle on to explain my affection for him, which is real, despite the failings I pointed out above.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:49 AM (xuouz)

    544 none of them will get behind Cruz. They would
    rather go down in flames, with fifty GOPe candidates, than to get behind
    Cruz. They deserve everything thats coming, Hillary or Trump
    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:47 AM (zOTsN)


    They are not afraid to lose. They are afraid of having the status they have grown fat living in changing.

    That we lose is nothing to them, they do not care about our lives, property or freedom, and would be happy to burn us down to save themselves and their families and their position in the cocktail parties.

    Posted by: Kindltot at February 17, 2016 10:50 AM (q2o38)

    545 Buzzsaw: This thread is starting to smell of overly tenderized dead horse.

    CBD: I always make pulled pork with it......

    Wait, what? Maybe I'm reading too fast...?

    Posted by: mindful webworker - caution, meme crossing at February 17, 2016 10:50 AM (SqM8E)

    546 To ask Donald Trump not to attack is to ask the fire not to burn.
    Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Glower Sticks and Other Emergency Supplies! at February 17, 2016 10:48 AM (hLRSq)

    Two dozen glower sticks, please, and one large I Scream! on a waffle cone with Ruboto sprinkles.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:50 AM (xuouz)

    547 Oh please that is double talk non denial denial bullshit. You can't really believe Apple can't change the code to let the Gov in? Don't let your views blind you to reality.



    ----

    They most certainly can, and Cook never said they couldn't. What he did say was that he can't change the code to let the government in in such a way that doesn't also make it easier for other actors to get in.

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 10:50 AM (KUaJL)

    548 but if Bush won't defend himself why should anyone else?
    -----------------

    That's a rather weak argument, I think. Bush did what he did. Let history make the case one way or another. As I have pointed out, Bush didn't spend any time attacking/blaming previous administrations, and I don't think he should engage in a public battle over his own.

    I wonder if any President has quietly endured the insults that Bush did, and still does. The media were complicit as were high-profile celebrities.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:51 AM (n22zQ)

    549 Oh please that is double talk non denial denial bullshit. You can't
    really believe Apple can't change the code to let the Gov in? Don't let
    your views blind you to reality.


    Um, he is talking about the encryption. And I believe him. A Court could order Apple to break the encryption on the phone, but without the key it would be very difficult if not well nigh impossible to do so. There is no back door in iOS to defeat the encryption.

    That's the point. A court can order someone to do something, but if that something is impossible then the order doesn't really mean a whole lot, does it?

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:51 AM (eytER)

    550 what are her accomplishments?

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:41 AM (zOTsN)

    _____________________________________________

    She once barked like a dog.
    Posted by: NotCoach at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (rsudF)

    But she had distemper. These things happen.
    Posted by: Mr Macca Bean


    I heard she has kennel cough

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:51 AM (zOTsN)

    551 Give me a fuckin break. if you don't recognize the San Bernadino Shooters as terrorists, then we have nothing more to discuss.

    If you're that willing to give up essential liberty for security theater from feckless, traitorous bastards that hate us, I guess we really don't.

    Posted by: Brother Cavil, Restorationist at February 17, 2016 10:51 AM (9krrF)

    552 You want Privacy:

    DON'T

    Don't Put it in writing
    Don't Put it in an Email
    Don't call anyone on your Phone
    Don't get an easy pass
    Don't use a credit card
    Don't write a check
    Do cover your face in public because all them cameras are gonna get ya

    Like it our not our lives are open books. But sure let's protect a terrorist's right so we can make an intellectual argument that puts lives at risk

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:51 AM (DUoqb)

    553 Buzzsaw: This thread is starting to smell of overly tenderized dead horse.
    --------------------

    That may become a prized commodity. It has before.

    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:52 AM (n22zQ)

    554 look, Cruz's image in the MSM before his candidacy got really underway was "the filibustering conservative extremist" who pissed everybody off

    that was the inertia he had to deal with, that and his supercilious smartypants manner, which didn't exactly warm the cockles of anyone's heart in the way Americans like to have their cockles warmed

    Trump came on the scene again and was Mr Let's Cut the Bullshit, but he had obvious warmth

    it's not hard to understand the emotional environment here: Cruz didn't lock up a lot of obvious support because he was considered toxic and didn't have a lot of likeability to make up for it

    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:52 AM (wzYhq)

    555 Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 10:34 AM (74ZYB)

    I shouldn't pile on, but will anyway. I read this morning that in the 90s on the Howard Stern show, he said that all his sleeping around during the HIV epidemic was akin to serving in Vietnam, because of the danger.

    I don't know if anything said on the Stern show should be taken seriously, but there are vast piles of awful things Trump did and said in the 90s that'll be hauled out by the MSM for the general election.

    Posted by: stace at February 17, 2016 10:52 AM (ozZau)

    556 Here's in effect the password code

    10 if password correct
    20 continue
    30 otherwise return to password enter routine

    All that has to be modified is one line to:
    10 if password NOT correct

    Then any password would work.

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 10:52 AM (fbovC)

    557 I'm out of here before a have a stroke

    Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:53 AM (DUoqb)

    558 it's pretty good in the original, too
    Posted by: Feh at February 17, 2016 10:46 AM (wzYhq)

    That would be worth learning Italian all by itself. Let me just fire up duolingo...

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:53 AM (xuouz)

    559 Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 17, 2016 10:51 AM

    Well, since you've gone the reducto ad absurdum route, I guess we're finished?

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:53 AM (eytER)

    560 "For many years, we have used encryption to protect our customers'
    personal data because we believe it's the only way to keep their
    information safe. We have even put that data out of our own reach,
    because we believe the contents of your iPhone are none of our business."

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:45 AM (enter)

    Encryption only works if the hacker doesn't know the passcode. The gov't wants the ability to brute force the passcode on the phone. Once they have that, the encryption is unlocked.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:53 AM (LTDSy)

    561 "But, when I hear Trump unfiltered, live--I can easily vote for him." overpop

    yeah, a friend went to a rally in Baton Rouge, said he was partly like a NY comedienne joking about things, crowd (of 12,000) loved him. We barely here about the frequent huge Trump rallies, that are energized and ten times the size of the others.

    But most of news talks of tiny sound bites where he says something they find offensive, and that plays all day. His message is much more than that, and he relates like a man of the people. It doesn't seem like a big act just to use people, ... other politicians convey that aura, of really trying to sound real and excited, praise Jesus.

    Posted by: Illiniwek at February 17, 2016 10:53 AM (5Gpe2)

    562 472 Feh have you read Ciardi's translation?
    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:35 AM (xuouz)

    I did. It's excellent. The footnotes alone are worth the price.

    Posted by: joncelli, Boned like You at February 17, 2016 10:54 AM (RD7QR)

    563 It's idiotic to object to the feds wanting to hack into this phone. Get a fucking clue.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 10:54 AM (iQIUe)

    564 Hillary doesn't have a resume, she has a rap sheet. That is her competence.

    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 10:54 AM (xWW96)

    565 Two dozen glower sticks, please, and one large I Scream! on a waffle cone with Ruboto sprinkles.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:50 AM (xuouz)


    They'll be air-launched from a predator to your GPS location shortly.

    Posted by: *Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet has Glower Sticks and Other Emergency Supplies! at February 17, 2016 10:54 AM (hLRSq)

    566 I dont give a shit. The republican party deserves everything they are getting Trump or Hillary.

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:55 AM (zOTsN)

    567
    That's a rather weak argument, I think. Bush did what he did. Let history make the case one way or another. As I have pointed out, Bush didn't spend any time attacking/blaming previous administrations, and I don't think he should engage in a public battle over his own.

    I wonder if any President has quietly endured the insults that Bush did, and still does. The media were complicit as were high-profile celebrities.
    Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 17, 2016 10:51 AM (n22zQ)

    ----------------------------

    So far history is making the case that the invasion of Iraq was a first-class f***-up.

    Trump, nor any other candidate, can wait for history to make some reassessment 20 years down the road.

    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:55 AM (LXJ1e)

    568 Who wants pie

    Posted by: RWC - Team BOHICA at February 17, 2016 10:55 AM (Lixdp)

    569 Nood art.

    Posted by: BackwardsBoy at February 17, 2016 10:56 AM (LUgeY)

    570 He's said a lot already in his speeches which has been constituent speech to speech, and has posted several positions on his website - if you're interested, which you may not be. Maybe you just want to call everybody LIV and not look into it at all. I understand.

    Posted by: Bigby's Red Palm at February 17, 2016 10:42 AM (3ZtZW)

    I haven't heard anything but bluster from him. If he believes the positions on his website he should be able to recite them pretty easily on the stump instead of constantly beating the shit out of the other candidates endlessly and spouting generalities.

    Posted by: Timon at February 17, 2016 10:56 AM (KSonr)

    571 nood art

    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 10:56 AM (KUaJL)

    572 I read this morning that in the 90s on the Howard Stern show, he said that all his sleeping around during the HIV epidemic was akin to serving in Vietnam, because of the danger.
    Posted by: stace at February 17, 2016 10:52 AM (ozZau)

    That's hysterical.

    You know the phrase "immanentizing the eschaton?" Let's all crowdfund a rocket to pull an asteroid into the earth.

    If SMOD won't come to us we'll...uh...bring SMOD to us. I mean go to SMOD.

    Posted by: Ghost of kari - WAR at February 17, 2016 10:56 AM (xuouz)

    573 Apple court order

    cant Apple let the government have access to the code and then change it again after?

    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:56 AM (zOTsN)

    574 539 For newcomers, Tall Dave is a Rubio supporter, amigos.
    Posted by: andycanuck at February 17, 2016 10:48 AM (WOyz5)

    ---
    I don't care who wins, as long it's not the halfwit draft-dodging con man Democrat. Go Gilmore!

    Note the general trend.
    Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 17, 2016 10:45 AM (kdS6q)
    --
    The trend seems to be that South Carolina used to pick the winner, but last time picked a candidate who washed out of the race almost immediately after winning. We can only hope people start to notice Gingrich was a great candidate next to the guy who supports Planned Parenthood and Medicare drug pricing.

    Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 10:57 AM (74ZYB)

    575 It's idiotic to object to the feds wanting to hack into this phone. Get a fucking clue.

    Posted by: Bruce With a Wang! at February 17, 2016 10:54 AM (iQIUe)


    Please see my previous comment.
    Link in nic.

    Posted by: db at February 17, 2016 10:57 AM (Wozau)

    576 What he did say was that he can't change the code to let the government in in such a way that doesn't also make it easier for other actors to get in.
    Posted by: joe at February 17, 2016 10:50 AM (KUaJL)

    No he said that if he gave the code to the gov't they could then use it on other iPhones. He is correct there but there is no reason the gov't has to have access to the new code. Apple could hack the phone, determine the code and then give the code and phone (with original OS) back to gov't.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 10:57 AM (LTDSy)

    577
    I don't know if anything said on the Stern show should be taken seriously, but there are vast piles of awful things Trump did and said in the 90s that'll be hauled out by the MSM for the general election.
    Posted by: stace at February 17, 2016 10:52 AM (ozZau)

    ---------------------

    It's up to his opponents in the primary to bring up his negative issues. If they can't do the basics and win that's their problem.

    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 10:58 AM (LXJ1e)

    578 Nood swampy sniper scenes!

    Posted by: rickb223 at February 17, 2016 10:58 AM (ohWrE)

    579 His message is much more than that, and he relates like a man of the people.

    --------

    Same thing I did!
    Well, sure, I handed the Presidency to Clinton, but this time will different. I mean, it's not like this a cult of personality thing, right? Right?


    Posted by: Ross Perot at February 17, 2016 10:58 AM (n22zQ)

    580 Count me as a Trump supporter, though I would be fine with voting for Cruz. Not Mario though.

    Trump however is a bigger "blow me" message to the Establishment. Destroying them is my number one concern at the moment and Trump seems to be doing a better job at it.

    I'm not convinced that any of the candidates can pull us back from the brink, I think it may already be past the point of no return.

    Posted by: VidOmnia at February 17, 2016 10:58 AM (56u+o)

    581 A) they are not asking for the software to do this, They are asking for Apple to do this on THIS phone ONLY
    ==========
    Chain of custody, my friend.

    If Apple does this--without allowing observation and verification of the techniques used--the phone becomes inadmissible. How else do you defeat the defense argument that "what if someone at Apple, who unlocked it, planted those texts?"

    So, yes: They are asking for the software to do this to every phone.

    Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2016 10:59 AM (fQ/0p)

    582 One thread to overrule them all
    One thread to bind us
    One thread til Ace awakes
    And in the barrel find us

    Posted by: mindful webworker - Lord of the Ring Around the Collar at February 17, 2016 10:59 AM (SqM8E)

    583 564 Hillary doesn't have a resume, she has a rap sheet. That is her competence.
    Posted by: maddogg, now certified infrequently vile at February 17, 2016 10:54 AM (xWW96)

    -----------------------

    Even her criminality is incompetent. Without a fawning press she'd be toast.

    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 11:00 AM (LXJ1e)

    584 No he said that if he gave the code to the gov't they could then use it
    on other iPhones. He is correct there but there is no reason the gov't
    has to have access to the new code. Apple could hack the phone,
    determine the code and then give the code and phone (with original OS)
    back to gov't.


    And that's probably the most reasonable way to approach it, though even that I think goes a little too far. I think there's an argument that it places an unreasonable burden on Apple.

    But that's another argument.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 11:00 AM (PFy0L)

    585 It doesn't seem like a big act just to use people, ... other politicians convey that aura, of really trying to sound real and excited, praise Jesus.
    --
    Give him his due: Trump's a very effective con man.

    A state prosecutor said Thursday that Trump University deserves an F in ethics.

    Deputy Solicitor General Steven Wu told four Manhattan appellate judges that Trump's much-maligned -- and now-defunct -- school promising instant wealth operated as a "fraudulent bait and switch scheme."

    "The fraud that was alleged here is a classic type of fraud," Wu said. "This was not an exotic scheme."

    "This is a case about straightforward misrepresentations," Wu added.

    Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 11:00 AM (74ZYB)

    586 Same thing I did!
    Well, sure, I handed the Presidency to Clinton, but this time will different. I mean, it's not like this a cult of personality thing, right? Right?


    Posted by: Ross Perot at February 17, 2016 10:58 AM (n22zQ)

    ----------------------------------

    Where talking about Cruz right?

    Posted by: Make America Great Again at February 17, 2016 11:00 AM (LXJ1e)

    587 cant Apple let the government have access to the code and then change it again after?
    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:56 AM (zOTsN)

    I believe they could. I think Cook is grandstanding a bit. Polishing the Apple a bit.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 11:01 AM (LTDSy)

    588 that capability, to access the terrorist's iPhone, would be built into every iPhone.
    do you trust Obama's government to only use that power responsibly?

    Posted by: chemjeff - PuppyMonkeyBaby '16 at February 17, 2016 09:39 AM (lVU49)


    It's perfectly possible for the manufacturers of the phone to break the encryption on shitbag muzzie's iPhone without compromising all other iPhones. Even if it does require creating a phony OS upgrade to that particular phone, that phony upgrade does not have to be released to the wild. For transparency, have the whole process occur in a closed Faraday cage with a roomful of expert witnesses to verify that only shitbag's phone is under scrutiny.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2016 11:03 AM (Z8fuk)

    589 Chain of custody, my friend.

    If Apple does this--without allowing observation and verification of the techniques used--the phone becomes inadmissible. How else do you defeat the defense argument that "what if someone at Apple, who unlocked it, planted those texts?"

    So, yes: They are asking for the software to do this to every phone.
    Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2016 10:59 AM (fQ/0p)

    Um, the Feds can watch. That's not the issue. They can't have access to the code that hacks the phone. And just like an gov't official, you subpoena the programming who swears under oath nothing was planted. It's the same as sending a sample off to a private lab.

    Posted by: WOPR at February 17, 2016 11:05 AM (LTDSy)

    590 Sorry that is just wrong. No One has an absolute right to privacy.
    ==========
    ok, seriously man: wow.

    That is just insane.

    Because when you start there, every new "reasonable" intrusion into privacy is acceptable.

    Posted by: RoyalOil at February 17, 2016 11:06 AM (fQ/0p)

    591 "Obama Vows to Stay Very Active in the Public Life of This Country"


    So he will only be golfing on the public courses?

    Posted by: RGallegos at February 17, 2016 11:07 AM (5eZAE)

    592 Then any password would work.
    Posted by: mega machines

    Actually, replying to myself, any password would work except the correct one. Technically speaking.

    Posted by: mega machines at February 17, 2016 11:08 AM (fbovC)

    593 Trump however is a bigger "blow me" message to the Establishment. Destroying them is my number one concern at the moment and Trump seems to be doing a better job at it.
    Posted by: VidOmnia at February 17, 2016 10:58 AM (56u+o)
    ---

    It's understandable people feel that way after eight years of Obama, unfortunately Donald Trump is the worst possible vehicle for these frustrations, in that he's the funhouse-mirror image of Obama -- where people projected their hopes onto Obama's vague empty-suit platitudes, people are now projecting their anger onto Donald's vehement cluelessness and lack of compunction.

    I mean, we all loved it when Trump attacked Bill Clinton's history with women and Obama's various idiocies. If Trump put on a daily half-hour TV show to rant about Democrats, I'd watch it and cheer. I liked watching Ozzy Osborne too, but they'd both be terrible political leaders.

    Posted by: TallDave at February 17, 2016 11:09 AM (74ZYB)

    594 At this point I consider the Federal government a greater threat to my life and liberty than the occasional terrorist.

    And the government sides with the terrorists anyway.

    Posted by: rickl at February 17, 2016 11:17 AM (zoehZ)

    595 none of them will get behind Cruz. They would rather go down in flames, with fifty GOPe candidates, than to get behind Cruz. They deserve everything thats coming, Hillary or Trump
    Posted by: ThunderB at February 17, 2016 10:47 AM (zOTsN)

    Yep. At the very least, Kasich should drop out, and so should Jeb!, and Jeb should stop attacking the others.Oh and Carson too--I forgot he was still in it.

    Posted by: stace at February 17, 2016 11:17 AM (ozZau)

    596 And lets the genie out of the bottle to do it to all iPhones.

    It's axiomatic. Cook tries to explain it in his letter.

    Posted by: VA GOP Sucks at February 17, 2016 10:10 AM (PFy0L)


    If Apple has coders who can write the software, you be sure that hackers, perhaps in Russia or China, could do the same. And will.

    Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 17, 2016 11:23 AM (Z8fuk)

    597 "Trump's much-maligned -- and now-defunct -- school promising instant wealth operated as a "fraudulent bait and switch scheme." TallDave

    Trump let his name be used on projects he didn't run, from what I gather. People had to read a little to figure that out maybe, but any "get rich quick" house marketing schemes, or real estate developments, should always be questioned. But people with money got greedy, were flipping, easy money ... hey, no more work, learn to flip houses and be rich.

    These seem to have fallen apart when the housing market did, and many people with money were indeed getting rich from the easy money real estate bubble. The bubble popped ... people are angry ... "where did my free riches go". Trump didn't create the real estate bubble.

    Posted by: Illiniwek at February 17, 2016 11:27 AM (5Gpe2)

    598 Jebra said he wouldn't blame Oloser for anything,that made all the fat desperate housewives who love them some Oloser cream their pants.

    Posted by: Geoffrey at February 17, 2016 11:32 AM (LoRcb)

    599 so apple is with the terrorists,,,terrorists everywhere be using their phones to trigger bombs?

    Posted by: torabora at February 17, 2016 12:01 PM (LGm2x)

    600 #112 Like Bernie would appoint Cruz to SCOTUS.

    Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 17, 2016 12:52 PM (Kucy5)

    601 #462 Competent Hillary.

    Wife was watching Science HD on DirectTV last night, around 1 AM. Went to commercial. Super competent Hillary.

    Then it ran again. And again. And again. NINE times in a row before we turned the TV off. For all I know it's still running.

    Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 17, 2016 01:05 PM (Kucy5)

    602 #597 So Trump is Krusty the Klown?

    Posted by: Richard McEnroe at February 17, 2016 01:08 PM (Kucy5)

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