July 15, 2009
Sotomayor Either Perjured Herself, or Is Intellectually Unqualified to be on the Supreme Court
No, I didn't say it. A liberal law professor disgusted with her testimony did.
Ace distilled the essence of Sotomayor thus:I fully expect Sotomayor to be confirmed by the Democratic supermajority in the Senate. While the nation as a whole doesn't support her nomination, there simply doesn't seem to be enough of an immediate cost to her confirmation to make voting for her a short term political risk, which is all politicians care about any way. The fact of the matter, however, is that activist judges like Sonia Sotomayor and her peers that believe in what Ace so correctly mocked as the "Living Constitution" undermine the laws that holds society together with every decision they make. The constantly shifting standards and "law of the now" approach to jurisprudence means that no law is ever actually law; it is an ever-changing rough guideline. With no fixed compass, the law—as law—ceases to exist. She is a dangerous choice... and no one knows that better than the radical neophyte America elected as President who appointed her.
She's denying that there exists something called "theory of jurisprudence," which includes such doctrines as originalism, strict constructionism, and, of course, the ever-flexible and ever-expanding doctrine of the "Living Constitution." As she doesn't want to admit she's an adherent of the latter, she claims there's no such thing as judicial philosophy whatsoever. For example, faced with a legal question about which the Constitution is absolutely silent, a conservative justice would say there is no Constitutional dictate either way: A law is permitted to exist; it is also permissible to have no law. Lacking a constitutional source of authority, a judge herself has no authority to set policy. On the other hand, someone like Sotomayor does not stop her inquiry simply because she finds that she has no authority whatsoever to make a ruling that binds anyone. She then looks to international law; the always-popular "changing social mores and norms;" "public policy considerations;" anagrams of Ricky Martin song titles; etc. So, yeah, she's lying.
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Posted by: Russ at July 15, 2009 12:19 AM (QH1SN)
Judge Sotomayor knows that she must lie because her true beliefs, that which makes up her intellect and her belief system, is repugnant to most Americans. Simply admitting that she believes she's smarter and better than anyone else because she's female and hispanic might very well derail her nomination, and that would be unacceptable. For liberals, the end always justifies the means. It's the Chicago way.
Posted by: MikeMcDaniel at July 15, 2009 01:08 AM (egZnw)
Posted by: Billiam at July 15, 2009 08:25 AM (nhTNn)
Posted by: megapotamus at July 15, 2009 08:47 AM (LVyKj)
Now she's in unknown territory, where she is expected to explain and defend statements which, while unobjectionable in her preferred environment, are at the least disturbing and at worst deeply offensive to many Americans. Clinton had a similar rude awakening early in his administration, where he discovered (no doubt to his great shock) that attitudes and opinions taken for granted by the Georgetown cocktail party set are alien and unwelcome to the great unwashed. Clinton was adept enough to adapt, but not quickly enough to forestall the '94 midterm elections.
Let's hope Obama's cluelessness and political tin ear (abetted by a syncophantic media unwilling to tell him anything he doesn't want to hear) lead to a similar result.
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at July 15, 2009 09:47 AM (Vcyz0)
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Posted by: bandit at July 15, 2009 12:01 PM (/R+6i)
Posted by: megapotamus at July 15, 2009 04:39 PM (NNQkQ)
Posted by: Federale at July 15, 2009 05:32 PM (QZ/te)
Ask yourself if Roberts had said that a wise white guy .... what do think the state run media would be saying about now?
Posted by: bill-tb at July 16, 2009 03:27 PM (iiiMw)
July 14, 2009
Angel in Iraq
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Posted by: brando at July 14, 2009 12:37 PM (IPGju)
Angels do, indeed, exist, and an unusual number of them have always been Americans.
Posted by: Mike McDaniel at July 14, 2009 01:07 PM (egZnw)
Posted by: Dude at July 14, 2009 01:52 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: Billiam at July 14, 2009 03:46 PM (V/DmL)
Posted by: Pablo at July 14, 2009 06:20 PM (yTndK)
And in the process He has also blessed the rest of us.
Posted by: Tim at July 14, 2009 06:23 PM (3Wewy)
The absence of this outside of Military channels shows the lack respect the msm has for the Military. Dispicable ...
Posted by: JerseyGeorge at July 15, 2009 08:52 PM (rqSbE)
Posted by: DoorHold at July 19, 2009 03:11 PM (I9qGK)
July 10, 2009
Obama's Science Czar Wrote Book Advocating Forced Abortions, Sterilizing Americans By Poisoning Our Drinking Water
Zombie has once again gone deep into print to discover a book called Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment where John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, suggested dictating how others should live their lives to assuage pseudo-scientific hysteria.
The dark mind of Holdren that pushed for totalitarian in the 1970s based upon the projections of junk science is participating now in activist legislation that is based upon projections made up by the junk science of man-made
Forced abortions. Mass sterilization. A "Planetary Regime" with the power of life and death over American citizens. The tyrannical fantasies of a madman? Or merely the opinions of the person now in control of science policy in the United States? Or both? These ideas (among many other equally horrifying recommendations) were put forth by John Holdren, whom Barack Obama has recently appointed Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, Assistant to the President for Science and Technology, and Co-Chair of the President's Council of Advisors on Science and Technology -- informally known as the United States' Science Czar. In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science policy in this country wrote that:
Impossible, you say? That must be an exaggeration or a hoax. No one in their right mind would say such things. Well, I hate to break the news to you, but it is no hoax, no exaggeration. John Holdren really did say those things, and this report contains the proof. Below you will find photographs, scans, and transcriptions of pages in the book Ecoscience, co-authored in 1977 by John Holdren and his close colleagues Paul Ehrlich and Anne Ehrlich. The scans and photos are provided to supply conclusive evidence that the words attributed to Holdren are unaltered and accurately transcribed.
- Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or not;
- The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
- Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
- People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words, be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
- A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed international police force.
One can rest assured that Barack Obama cannot turn to his old associate Bill Ayers to be his "education czar" thanks to how Ayers and his wife were exposed as domestic terrorists during the campaign, but now Holdren has been exposed as having a similar sort of pathology, the chilling thought of someone with a similar mindset being given such a position doesn't seem as easy to laugh off.
I asked, "Well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?" And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. And when I say "eliminate," I mean "kill." Twenty-five million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious.
There is something deeply, dangerously wrong with the kind of people who harbor such delusions, and there is something deeply, dangerously wrong with the kind of president who promotes people with such viewpoints to positions of power. John Holdren needs to leave his postion, and leave it now. For Barack Obama, we'll have to wait until January 20, 2013. Update: More on Obama's eugenicist at Noisy Room and Bookworm Review.
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In the 2nd movie of the 2nd Star Wars trilogy, there is a point where Skywalker is talking to the queen about forms of government, and Skywalker says the best way would be for a man of knowledge or group of the knowledgable to run the universe to better direct it toward progress...
That is what the left has been for some time...
Posted by: usinkorea at July 10, 2009 07:46 PM (Boa5R)
http://www.savethemales.ca/200202.html
More evidence:
In a 1934 letter, Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, wrote to her financial sponsor, Clarence Gamble (the Proctor & Gamble heir) :
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
Now we should all be on the alert for the new swine flu vaccination. Read about it here:
http://euro-med.dk/?p=9152
or http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/04/13/4/
and if this is too "conspiracy theory" for you, then just look up what happened to the soldiers who were forced to take the swine flu vaccine during the Gulf War and weep. The government is not our friend.
Posted by: Jen at July 10, 2009 09:16 PM (eXdIs)
The left's health experts testified before congress in favor of health care rationing. When will the public ever learn.
It's just the Nazi's with the serial number filed off.
Posted by: Chockblock at July 11, 2009 04:22 AM (359l7)
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at July 11, 2009 01:50 PM (MxQFN)
Forced abortions and sterilization of people, even those who can least afford to raise children, is just plain wrong. Surely, the right to life people among us would agree with this.
Of course, this also means that the welfare state will inevitably increase in size, as it has for the past several generations, as society at large has to pay for the daily needs (food, clothing and shelter) and medical care of the little children born to irresponsible parents.
If we as a society agree that forced abortions of people who can least afford to raise kids is wrong, then, the next logical step is to agree that it's equally wrong to abandon these children to a life of hunger, misery, suffering, poor health, high infant mortality rates and poverty.
What a mess we're in!
Posted by: Dude at July 11, 2009 02:36 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at July 11, 2009 05:14 PM (MxQFN)
When can we say that Obama is waging a war on science and a war on the American people? I wonder if Holdren's disfavored populations are the same as Judge Ginsberg's disfavored populations ripe for extermination?
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at July 11, 2009 05:31 PM (RdRrk)
Tell me one thing in my post that would lead any reasonable person with 10th grade reading skills to conclude that I'm a bigot. It ain't in there. I didn't say nor imply that poor people can't raise children. You dreamed that up in YOUR mind. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that I know as much or more about poor folks and their plight, on a very personal level, than you do. And, I know plenty of them who have and are doing a find job of raising their children. Most of them that I know, however, do receive some type of government assistance. Many of them don't want it, they need it.
No, I'm not a freakin bigot nor am I a sick person. In fact, I'm one of the least bigoted people that you'd ever encounter. Period.
It seems to me that you're just angry at the world. The irony of this conversation is that you, when you call me a bigot and sick, is that it's actually you, yourself, who is exhibiting the behavior of a bigot by jumping to conclusions and hurling insults at someone that you know nothing about.
Posted by: Dude at July 11, 2009 06:52 PM (byA+E)
Analyze Dude's comment. Does he seem more concerned with this mad scientist's rantings, or with justifying Chicago-style patronage/bread-and-circuses government?
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 11, 2009 08:57 PM (6XMIC)
"If we as a society agree that forced abortions of people who can least afford to raise kids is wrong, then, the next logical step is to agree that it's equally wrong to abandon these children to a life of hunger, misery, suffering, poor health, high infant mortality rates and poverty."
So, in your Illinois Nazi mind the "next logical step" [sic] "is to agree that it's equally wrong to..." [sic]
Poor == kill them
You said it, not me.
I hate Illinois Nazis...
Posted by: Druid at July 11, 2009 11:09 PM (jZ7AH)
There is no excuse for this liberal stalino-fascist avocation of genocide against mankind! Holdren has to go NOW!!!
Posted by: Mescalero at July 11, 2009 11:10 PM (e7NAO)
No, I didn't say it. You said it. I didn't even think it. You're obviously delusional.
My point was/is that children born to poor families, who can't afford to support the kids, need the help of government services to provide for the welfare of the children. If you can't understand the simple logic of that, it's pointless to even attempt a civil discussion with you and your ilk.
You've got it totally backwards. I'm saying:
Poor = provide for them the necessary daily needs and health care.
My hunch is that even though you disagree with Holdren's book, as I do also, you're probably against the necessary government welfare money to provide for these kids. Right or wrong?
Nine of Diamonds: What's there to analyze in my comment? It speaks clearly for itself.
You fellas can't have it both ways. That's my point. I think you guys don't care if the children starve to death AFTER they're born. This discussion is one that gripes you so called conservatives to no end. Though you rightfully rant against the writings of Holbren, you can't support the concept of government aid to provide for the poor. You're a disgusting and hypocritical lot.
Thank you CY for providing a topic to expose these louts for what they really are.
Posted by: Dude at July 11, 2009 11:44 PM (byA+E)
You have displayed the sort of attitude that sees no contraditicon between a "Keep your laws off my ovaries" bumper sticker and an insistence on federally funded abortions.
Sorry if Holdren has once again exposed your sick eugenics fantasies. I know, he's suppsoed to be more subtle about eliminating "undesirables." It always upsets you guys when one of you inadvertently says what you all are thinking.
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at July 12, 2009 07:39 AM (Vcyz0)
... Wait ...
Posted by: DoorHold at July 12, 2009 11:16 AM (I9qGK)
Posted by: emdfl at July 12, 2009 11:40 AM (B+qrE)
They are using our money.
Posted by: Donald Mattson at July 12, 2009 11:42 AM (5hUMI)
emdfl: What's really fun is to watch you and your ilk squirm, lose your cool, spout your foolishness, display your bigotry, engage in name calling when you're incapable of intelligent debate, etc.
A friend and I were once discussing why we even subject ourselves to the verbal abuse and the dearth of critical thought on some of these political forums. It's true that once in a while I can have an intelligent discussion with someone, rationally and civilly debating our political differences, in a forum such as this one. I thank God for that. However, for the most part, that ain't the case.
So, the question remains: why do we do it? The answer is simple. There are likely hundreds, perhaps thousands of people who read these threads but who never post. (I suppose that only God and CY know how many visitors each topic thread has on a given day.) I take comfort in the knowledge that reasonable people of normal intelligence with basic reading and thinking skills read our posts and clearly recognize YOU for what you really are.
It's priceless. The Democrat Party couldn't possibly buy the positive Public Relations that y'all provide to the party, for FREE. The irony of it is beautiful!
Until next time.......Cheers!
Dude
Posted by: Dude at July 12, 2009 03:28 PM (byA+E)
Oh, and what's it with the proggies rambling on about intelligence and reading skills whenever they post? Fear, perhaps, that Teleprompter-messiah isn't quite the brainiac he's made out to be? All the evidence indicates he was pretty stupid & lazy, even for your typical Affirmative Action token-"black":
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/03/is_obama_lazy.html
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 12, 2009 07:41 PM (6XMIC)
Posted by: mixitup at July 12, 2009 07:42 PM (Z21cb)
Posted by: Federale at July 12, 2009 09:11 PM (I6UoW)
I've said NOTHING to justify this man in any of my posts, as anyone with a lick of sense would know by reading them. Of course, that obviously rules you out!
MixedUp, Ahhhhhhh, you might try reading the posts again. I think that I'm the only "Liberal" that has posted in this particular thread. And, I would hardly call my posts "ranting and raving". My participation gives you folks an outlet for YOUR ranting and raving. Without me here, y'all would just be preaching to the choir. It would be like a psyche ward with whackozoids stumbling around mumbling to themselves. Yes, indeed, you are mixed up. But, that's OK. Rant on! Get it out of your system.
By the way, I don't know if you would or wouldn't like my neighborhood. We're a pretty diverse lot here. From what I gather from your post, and the several posts of Whine that I've suffered through, I don't think that either of y'all would be a good fit.
I'm glad that you found a new political home. Honesty, I am! It's great that you've found a group of like minded individuals with whom you can share and articulate your pearls of wisdom.
Dr. Dude
Posted by: Dude at July 12, 2009 09:49 PM (byA+E)
Please note the shrieking/energy expended over blog commentors' posts, as opposed to oh, I dunno - the writings of one of the most powerful scientists in the Magic Negro's "presidential" "administration." The issue is not whether mouth-breather condemns/does not condemn the man's sick fantasies. The issues are priorities, proportionality of response, and what really gets under said mouth-breather's skin. Based on how long he's been rambling, who do you think the keyboard kkkomandos hates more? Holdren, or the lady with a McCain/Palin sticker on her minivan?
I also love how it's all about ME with the Halfrican bastard's mouth-breather brigade. Hehe.
"I appreciate diversity!"
"I'm not a WAY-SIST like Y'all Y'all Y'all are!"
"I've got more mah-nori-tays in my neighborhood than you! Nyahh!"
Epic meltdown - lol.
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 12, 2009 10:09 PM (6XMIC)
Posted by: Dude 2 at July 12, 2009 11:25 PM (znAs1)
As for the Nazis=Rightists inanity, we could discuss the leftist political leanings of many fascists prior to (and even after) the "night of the long knives", the ex-Communist Nazis of Police Battalion 101, and ex-Nazi Communists in East Germany, etc. But that would rock the historical illiterates' boats, you see. Oh well - at least the keyboard KKKomandos are too gutless to defend His Imperial Negritude's staff selection process (or lack thereof). Guess that's a start.
For the more open-minded:
http://www.amazon.com/Ordinary-Men-Reserve-Battalion-Solution/dp/0060995068/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247472399&sr=8-1
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 13, 2009 04:15 AM (6XMIC)
Dude, in your first comment on this thread, you try to change the topic, when forced abortions on citizens should be off the table, period.
This isn't the topic you're going to want to fight. You should join the good people.
Posted by: brando at July 13, 2009 10:11 AM (IPGju)
He said Holdren needs to go. He said forced abortions are WRONG. He said welfare will increase due to irresponsible parents. He also said we can't abandon the children. So, why all the vitriol? Someone want to clear this up?
Posted by: Billiam at July 13, 2009 12:01 PM (Y4n5v)
Posted by: Billiam at July 13, 2009 12:03 PM (Y4n5v)
It's the "Hey, look over there" argument.
Yeah, he did lead with the rhetoric that Holden's idea was bad, then quickly shifted to "but, but, but... Everyone hates Republicans."
It happens on a lot of topics, and it's easy to spot.
"Racism's bad, but.....[argument why it's good]"
"I support the troops, but....[argument why they don't]"
"State mandated abortion is bad, but....[argument why it's good]"
Also, in his post, look for the words "equally wrong". He's making a moral equivalliant between not supporting universal healthcare, and the horror of STATE MANDATED ABORTIONS.
Yikes.
Think about that for a second, and what a violation of citizens rights that would be. That's worse than rape. That's something out of a sci-fi horror movie.
State.
Mandated.
Abortions.
I'm hoping I can turn some Libs on this topic, cause.....holy crap.
Let's talk about this some more.
Posted by: brando at July 13, 2009 12:40 PM (IPGju)
"So, why all the vitriol?" Because, unfortunately, it seems to go with the territory. I, too, was puzzled by it when I first started visiting some forums. Seems to me that there are many people who post who are just angry. They are so consumed by their anger that they are incapable of having a logical, civil discussion of issues in a polite and courteous manner. Furthermore, they will twist people's words with whom they don't agree.
Look at Brando's last comment. It's a perfect example. He says:
"Yeah, he did lead with the rhetoric that Holden's idea was bad, then quickly shifted to "but, but, but... Everyone hates Republicans."
Of course, in reality, I said no such thing, as you can clearly read. I never used the word "hate" nor did I use the word "Republican". Brando simply made all that up. In a court of law that would be called perjury. In everyday life, we all know what the correct word is to describe his falsehoods.
Look at another clear example of Brando's dishonesty in his "rhetoric" when he says:
"Also, in his post, look for the words "equally wrong". He's making a moral equivalliant between not supporting universal healthcare, and the horror of STATE MANDATED ABORTIONS."
In point of fact, I was making a moral equivalent between the horror of state mandated abortions and the hypocricy of the many people who oppose abortion while at the same time not seeming to care if the babies starve to death AFTER they are born.
Of course state mandated abortions are wrong! Period! No ifs, ands, buts about it. And, it IS equally wrong for the state not to provide the basic necessities of life for babies of poor people who can't provide for those babies themselves. Though it is true that people who can't afford to raise children shouldn't be having children, once that child is born we all have a responsibility to be sure that its basic needs are met.
Once the babies are born, they are here. We can not take the moral high ground on one issue and not take the moral high ground on the other issue. Furthermore, I deliberately made this point because I KNOW from reading past threads that many of the people who take the moral high ground on the issue of state mandated abortions, take the moral low ground on the issue of the state providing for poor children after they are born. They can't have it both ways, though they would like to be able to. If you are pro life before birth, then you MUST be pro life after birth. Otherwise, you are a total hypocrite.
Universal Health Care is another topic altogether, one which I DO support. But, that has nothing to do with this discussion. That's another topic for another time.
Mark my words. Someone will twist what I've said in this post. When you read what they will say that I said, please take the time to go back and read again what I REALLY said.
You'll catch on quickly how things work here. Thanks again for comprehending what I said in my initial post. Though we may not agree with each other on every topic, we can at least be civil with each other. I appreciate that.
Kind Regards,
Dude
Posted by: Dude at July 13, 2009 04:05 PM (byA+E)
Because I'm so forgiving, I'll give you a chance to repent. But only for a short while. I'm not Jesus. Out of fairness, I'll give ya 5 hours.
"Of course state mandated abortions are wrong! Period! No ifs, ands, buts about it. And,....[a bunch of other unrelated stuff]"
You immediatly follow it with the word "AND"! hahahaahaha!
I don't think you known what "period" means. You can't yell Period, then say more stuff.
I'll show you how it's done. Having federal police round up citizens based on political leanings/race/income, then forcing them to have abortions is an abysmal violation of personal rights. This should not be enacted on the American populace. Period.
Posted by: brando at July 13, 2009 05:11 PM (IPGju)
I will, however, concede to you on one point. Indeed, I did make a mistake in the structure/phrasing of the paragraph that contained my statement:
"Of course state mandated abortions are wrong! Period! No ifs, ands, buts about it."
After the above statement in my previous post I should have begun a new paragraph that didn't begin with the word "And". How silly of me to have made such a careless error in paragraph structure. The proper way to have phrased the words following the above statement would have been to begin a NEW paragraph that says:
"It IS equally wrong for the state not to provide the basic necessities of life for babies of poor people who can't provide for those babies themselves. Though it is true that people who can't afford to raise children shouldn't be having children, once that child is born we all have a responsibility to be sure that its basic needs are met."
Excuse me for my gramatical error of using the word "And" to begin my next sentence. By the way, I CAN "yell Period, then say more stuff." The "more stuff" simply needs to be in a new paragraph.
Nevertheless, the point is the same. Once we have come to the conclusion, and agreed, mind you, that state mandated abortions ARE wrong, we then must move along to the the next logical thought in this discussion. This is a process known as "critical thought", in case you aren't familiar with the term or the science.
The next question that begs to be answered is: How do we, as a society, deal with the problem of providing the basic necessities of life for these children born to parents who can not provide for them? This problem that must be dealt with is what you simplisticly refer to as, and I quote: [a bunch of other unrelated stuff].
Though you may consider it to be a "bunch of other unrelated stuff", I can assure you that hungry children are, in fact, a concern to a majority of Americans.
Thank you for your lesson in the proper use of the word "Period" in our discussion. How's this for an example?
Forced abortions are wrong. Babies are sometimes born to parents who can't afford to feed and clothe them. A state that claims to be based on morality has an obligation to provide the basic needs of life for these children. Period.
Posted by: Dude at July 13, 2009 10:20 PM (byA+E)
State Mandated Abortions? Yes or No?
"it is true that people who can't afford to raise children shouldn't be having children" - Dude
Roger that.
Posted by: brando at July 13, 2009 11:13 PM (kSaG8)
I didn't lose. I'm not on your clock.
I've made it perfectly clear, already, several times. In case you didn't understand, here it is again:
State Mandated Abortions? NO
And my question to you:
State Support for Poor Children? Yes or No?
Posted by: Dude at July 14, 2009 12:27 AM (byA+E)
He said Holdren needs to go. He said forced abortions are WRONG. He said welfare will increase due to irresponsible parents. He also said we can't abandon the children. So, why all the vitriol? Someone want to clear this up?"
The sophomoric redirection tactics. Using the thread as a springboard for traditional Democratic fiscal looseness (not that the morons in the Republican Party have much to brag about, but that's another story).
The fact that he/she/it gets worked up over fellow commenters to a degree that he cannot seem to muster for wannabe-Mengele here. Whether or not he/she/it made a perfunctory condemnation of the AA Messiah's little Mengele is not the point.
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 14, 2009 01:13 PM (6XMIC)
Posted by: RC at July 14, 2009 01:59 PM (5SKwN)
Sophomoric redirection tactics? Hardly. Logical sequence of thought? Yes.
Posted by: Dude at July 14, 2009 02:05 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: Billiam at July 14, 2009 03:42 PM (V/DmL)
RC, I went back and reread Dude vowing that I'm dishonest. I didn't misread it. There are very few things that border on unforgivable for me, and I think that lying and flippant, false, accusations of integrity violations are close.
It undermines society itself. (as does detaining citizens, then destroying their fetuses)
And yet, I even offered to forgive him. Everyone has to admit, that's pretty cool, given the grievous nature of his offence.
I also believe that most good people feel the same way, but even if I were the only person in the world that was honest, it wouldn't make me less right. That's why I usually credit people, instead of discredit them. I think that's fair. I think that's good. Dude is smart. Super smart and rational. He says so. Everything he wrote stands. Including him vowing that I'm a dishonest man. He can't squirm out of that at this point. He's not crazy, or stupid, or irrational. He's just bad.
"all of his critics in this thread read what they expected to See and not what he actually wrote." --RC
No, he actually wrote that I'm dishonest. He is wrong. You can go back and look yourself. RC, I'm going to assume that you're perfectly honest and smart.
His argument could be reduced to: "I'm against forced abortions, but it sure would save money. If you don't want to spend the money we'd save, then you're just as hellish."
It's a monstrous concept.
My point is this: Rounding up my wife and other people's wives, and aborting their fetuses, and/or rendering them sterile is not a viable way for the U.S. Government to save money. It doesn’t matter how much money it would save, such a program should be off the table. It’s reprehensible.
I know he doesn't think that's rational, or honest. But it's both. It's also good. I’m not wrong, and I think that anyone who reads this knows it.
That’s not even touching on the other main point of this thread; the systematic extermination of 25 million Americans. I personally believe that such a thing would be bad for America. And my belief is right.
Posted by: brando at July 14, 2009 04:23 PM (IPGju)
"I AM INTELLUGENT!"
"I AM NOT A WAY-SIST LIKE YOU!"
[Shrug].Figures, since the proggies don't have the courage to defend their boy's fantasies they misdirect at the first opportunity. Given how destructive the AA Messiah's policies are as a whole, why should proggs who disavow this radicalism - only to take the opportunity to misdirect/condone other bad ideas - get any brownie points?
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 14, 2009 04:52 PM (6XMIC)
As for the whole Dude vs. Other posters thing.
I'd say I fall in the conservative camp, and I don't favor abortions, nor do I favor expansive state welfare. Let private individuals, private charities, and the church take care of it. Take less at gun point from people and they have more to share with others who are less fortunate.
As for those who can't (or won't) support themselves, if they want a government check they have to receive a temporary/reversible but long term (no missed pills or broken condoms) means of contraception. This applies to both males and females. I loathe the idea of giving government that power, however I also loathe the idea of people having more and more kids when they cannot support the ones they have and are living off the tax payer.
Some people make poor choices in life, I know I've made my share, and I shouldn't have to pay for them to continue to make them. Nobody has paid for mine except me, heck some I'm still paying for many years later and will continue to impact my life until the day I die. I don't expect nor want someone else to pay for those poor choices in my late teens and early 20s. That is the key to turning things around, owning both your successes and your failures.
If these people were reliant on the community for charity two things would happen. First, the children would necessarily interact with better role models through charity workers, the community, and church. This would end the isolation of the families who get the "Gubmint" check. Second, a little shame and embarrassment build character. Many people in this country seem to lack a sense of shame or embarrassment, and thus the reverse, a true sense of self pride and self worth. The false and overblown crap they teach in schools today is wrong and cheapens real work and accomplishment. Not everyone deserves a gold star, there is such a thing as "winner" and "loser". In the real world people lose every day if they don't work hard, and some lose even if they do. A few even "make it" without the hard work, but those people are few.
Posted by: Scott at July 14, 2009 05:13 PM (sQmd1)
July 07, 2009
Tarheel Media Spin Hard to Cover Governor's 22% Sales Tax Increase
Influential North Carolina media like WRAL TV and the News and Observer seem intent on covering up a massive tax increase proposed by Governor Beverly Perdue.
First the spin from WRAL.And now from the News and Observer:
Trying to break a legislative stalemate on state budget negotiations, Gov. Beverly Perdue on Tuesday called top lawmakers to the Executive Mansion to lay out her own plan for raising extra revenue in the coming year to erase a projected $4.6 billion deficit. Perdue called for raising the state sales tax by a penny for 13 months, beginning Sept. 1. The increase would raise more than half of the $1.6 billion in revenue she would like to include in the 2009-10 fiscal budget.
"Raising the state sales tax by a penny" or calling it a "1-cent increase" seems like small potatoes until you realize that North Carolina's current sales tax rate is already 4.5% and by raising the rate another cent—to 5.5%—Perdue is seeking a 22% sales tax increase. Neither news outlet did the due diligence to point out the substantial rate increase the governor is pressing for instead of reigning in out-of-control government. One can only speculate why that may be.
Gov. Beverly Perdue told legislative leaders Tuesday she wants a 1-cent sales tax increase and a total tax hike package of $1.6 billion to balance the budget. Perdue, a Democrat, met with lawmakers at the Executive Mansion and gave them a list of tax and other revenue options that she would like to see passed. It was an effort to help break the impasse between Democratic Senate and House leaders over what taxes to increase and how much. Highlights of Perdue's wishlist, provided to Dome, include: an "emergency" 1-cent increase in the sales tax that would expire in October 2010, an emergency income tax surcharge on single taxpayers who earn more than $500,000 and married couples filing jointly making more than $1 million.
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Posted by: Matt at July 07, 2009 10:02 PM (54Fjx)
Posted by: Ken Hahn at July 08, 2009 12:55 AM (gHFXi)
Posted by: 1903A3 at July 08, 2009 06:12 AM (E8ZSe)
As for the state income tax surcharge on high income earners, not very many people are going to be concerned with that. That will be a non-issue for the vast majority of people.
Seems that everyone wants govt. services and low taxes. They want services curtailed as long as it doesn't effect them. My two cents worth.
Posted by: Dude at July 08, 2009 10:51 AM (byA+E)
I'd jump at a 5.5% sales tax, would mean an 14.5% lower sales tax than we have here or a 60% (roughly) reduction.
Ain't gonna happen of course, in fact they want to raise it to 21% and boasted that they were so "generous" because they delayed the raise for a year "due to the economic crisis".
Posted by: J.T. Wenting at July 08, 2009 11:59 AM (hrLyN)
Posted by: jdb at July 08, 2009 12:29 PM (+uLnA)
Posted by: Candy at July 08, 2009 10:40 PM (JvK/q)
... because it is. This urge to express a tax rate change as a percentage of the previous tax rate is one that all sides would do better to resist. It reminds me of Benjamin Disraeli's line "there are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." When your average joe realizes that the "22% tax increase" you're railing about is actually one penny on every dollar he spends, he's going to snort in disgust, and be that much less likely to listen to your antitax arguments next time. Call it what it is: a one percent increase, or a one cent increase.
Because the real issue is not how much the rate is going up. It's the fact that the rate is going up at all. At a time like this the state should be cutting spending, not raising tax rates and thus making recovery that much more difficult.
Posted by: wolfwalker at July 08, 2009 10:54 PM (LiRHS)
Posted by: Druid at July 08, 2009 11:42 PM (jZ7AH)
Posted by: PhyCon at July 09, 2009 11:03 AM (4od5C)
Posted by: ConstanceRifle at July 09, 2009 01:18 PM (6Qdzb)
I can understand legitimate criticism of the decision to raise the taxes over reducing the spending but you are just trying to be sensational now. Its the same reason I stopped reading the papers. The real information was not reflected by the headline given to it.
I have read your blog and several other blogs for a long time and it seems that after the election you guys went over the edge and have started to sound like all the nuts on DU and those various sites.
Posted by: alecthemad at July 09, 2009 03:31 PM (sptsT)
All that has already happened to private enterprise - our health care benefits are 100% more expensive, our retirement plans are gone and we only have 401k's, we no longer have lifetime benefits, and we are asked to provide the same services to our companies as before.
Private companies are producing more with less people and less cost, but no one is willing to take on the State Employees Unions to get the same cost efficiencies in government.
If you are employed by the People (Government) doesn't mean you have a lifetime job, or better benefits than provided in private enterprise. Politicians need to step up.
Posted by: Jim at July 09, 2009 05:23 PM (WacVk)
As for the folks that say an increase to 5.5 % is small, tell that to people that scape by on an hourly wage. This isn't about sensationalizing a tax increase. It's about private secotr workers shouldering all the pain. In the unlikely event one of our homegrown idiot Democratic politicians evenly splits the budget shortfall between state employees and the rest of us...well shoot, that just ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: Chuck at July 09, 2009 06:54 PM (vyqps)
Depends on your definition of the "receiving" end.
Posted by: Druid at July 09, 2009 07:45 PM (jZ7AH)
Posted by: MikeM at July 09, 2009 08:29 PM (DKZAR)
FYI - many sales taxes are fractional.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 09, 2009 10:24 PM (4YLl8)
yea, gas tax and such. I get it.
It does not detract from my point and that of some other posters. Calling the increase 22%, while technically correct, is not aiding the debate.
The debate should not surround the size of the tax increase but the question of increasing taxes at all if money could be cut from the budget.
Being a resident of NC and a fan of small government I am certain that money could be cut if the political will could be mustered.
Wasting energy by shouting 22% sales tax increase does not decrease the tax burden. It just makes people happier to hear a lower percentage later on.
The percent of the increase should not matter.
Posted by: alecthemad at July 10, 2009 04:45 AM (sptsT)
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at July 10, 2009 08:07 AM (MxQFN)
This tax isn't targeted at the "average person." It's targeted to those of us who put our life savings into a small business.
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at July 10, 2009 08:10 AM (MxQFN)
alecthemad - The above is why CY's headline is correct, though your point is also salient as he could have expressed that in his text a bit better.
Jim - My division had to cut 3 FTEs (total FTEs at the time - 21) this year out of something like a total cut of 20 statewide. Our D Gov told us state-trough-feeders he was doing everything he could to 'save jobs' a la TOTO. Then he instituted a hiring freeze. Our state employees age average is north of 55. Since January, when the hiring freeze was put into place, the state has shed over 500 employees thanks to retirements and such. Most of those positions have subsequently been eliminated. As such, there has been close to a 10% reduction in active state employees thus far from the Dec 2008 total. Since a significant majority of state employees here are within 5-10 years of retirement, that total % is going to grow significantly especially with Cap & Tax on the way.
CI - 'I feel your pain' (to quote Slick Willy). In a previous life (before my current occupation) I owned a small carpet cleaning company where I was CEO all the way down to CBW (chief bottle washer). I had no employees but my plans were to grow to at least 4 employees. Those plans and the business all went away with the short economic downturn started in 1998. The business finally died its ignominious death in 2000. As I see it, your only option is to raise your prices which is going to cost you clientel...wash, rinse, repeat and I can see your doors closing
Welcome to TOTO's economy...even for state employees.
Posted by: PhyCon at July 10, 2009 01:55 PM (4od5C)
The sales tax being discussed already does and will continue to split pennies. It is being increased from 4.5 pennies on the dollar to 5.5 pennies on the dollar. You're saying he was /forced/ to increase it by a whole penny, but keep it at a fractional per cent? The tax owed exact to a fraction of a cent (which must be rounded to be paid) will vary with the value of the purchase, and it does so whether the rate is 4.5, 5, or 4.56789123.
The cost to purchase an item did not go up 22%, but the tax most definitely did go up 22$.
Posted by: Saywhat at July 10, 2009 04:33 PM (1cITz)
Posted by: Saywhat What? at July 10, 2009 04:37 PM (1cITz)
Also, a business that raises their prices doesn't necessarily translate into less revenue for that business. Granted, there's a point where it will. It depends on the local economy (if it's a local business), the business itself, competition, client base, etc.
Sure, there will always be people who are going to shop for the lowest possible price. On the other hand, there will always be people who consider more than just the price of a product or service.
Several years ago someone that I know personally raised their prices on their products (hand made, custom built items). Indeed, their gross revenue decreased by a small amount. But, their net revenue increased by a larger percentage! So, for this business, they did less work and their bottom line increased.
Obviously, a price increase will have more of an adverse effect on a business that's highly competitive. It depends on the business. I realize that the above example won't apply for all businesses.
Time will tell if this 1 cent sales tax increase will have much of an effect of the buying habits of folks in NC. I rather doubt that it will.
Posted by: Dude at July 11, 2009 01:50 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at July 11, 2009 05:12 PM (MxQFN)
If I'm reading your post correctly you're saying that this 1 cent sales tax increase is going to cost YOU an extra $800.00 per month. Forgive me but I don't understand how that can be.
Do you not collect the sales tax from the customers at your business and then pay that tax, which you collected from you customers, to the state? If that's the case I don't understand how the sales increase is going to cost YOU 800 bucks per month. Please explain.
Or, are you anticipating that you will experience an $800 per month decrease in sales directly due to the 1 cent sales tax increase? If that's the case, that doesn't seem like a realistic projection to me.
Granted, I do understand that many restaurants and bars are going through difficult times right now. I know that I, myself, eat out less often than I used to. I don't go to bars. Occasionally, I will go out to a restaurant that also has a bar. Of course, I'm frequenting restaurants less often now because of the state of the economy. I don't have as much money to spare on the luxury of eating out as I did two years ago.
Here in Tennessee the combined state and local use sales tax, depending on what county you're in, is appx. 10%. That means that a $15.00 meal with a beverage at one of my favorite eating joints is going to cost me $16.50. If our sales tax here were raised one more penny on the dollar that meal would cost me 15 cents more, $16.65. I can assure that the extra 15 cents would not be a factor in my decision to eat out or not.
I'm very sorry that you're business is having hard times, truly I am. But, I just don't understand how a 1 cent sales tax increase is going to cost you the extra 800 bucks out of your profits. Please explain to me what I'm missing.
No, all of us so called "liberals" aren't intellectually bankrupt. My guess is that it would be about the same percentage as that of so called "conservatives", perhaps a little lower percentage but not much. As I've said before in other posts, the terms liberal and conservative are pretty much meaningless anyway. That's mostly a diversionary tactic to divide people and take their minds off of the issues that REALLY matter.
But, that's another topic altogether for another time. I do have an excellent example that proves my point. Should you be interested in hearing it, I'll be glad to discuss it with you.
I do hope that you business increases and flourishes. I sincerely mean that.
Best Wishes,
Dude
Posted by: Dude at July 11, 2009 05:54 PM (byA+E)
Of course he does. His poor little Kenyan bastard-god is depending on it...
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 11, 2009 08:59 PM (6XMIC)
Posted by: Dude at July 11, 2009 11:58 PM (byA+E)
I'm an awful human being, but the Magic Negro's little Dr. Mengle merits nothing but proggie apologetics. Got it. I hope to God he DOES think I'm an awful human being - coming from this Negrofascist apologist, what greater compliment is there??
I'm so compassionater than you fascist rethuglikkkans! Waah!"
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 12, 2009 12:52 PM (6XMIC)
If I'm reading your post correctly you're saying that this 1 cent sales tax increase is going to cost YOU an extra $800.00 per month. Forgive me but I don't understand how that can be.
Forgive me for cherry-picking but you really are ignorant of CI's situation. Allow me to educate you. From my experience auditing bars (or even bar/restaurant combos), the bar portion "backs into the sales tax due". That means if they have the price of a drink/beer/pop/etc set at $2.00 they have to DEDUCT the sales tax amount from the $2.00. They don't look at a customer and say 'the drink is $2.00 and with sales tax that will be $2.11" ($2.11 @ 5.5% sales tax). This is why CI is saying it will cost him money. The only way to recoup that loss is to raise his prices.
Stick with being a doctor, otherwise you would quickly be a bankrupt bar owner.
Posted by: PhyCon at July 13, 2009 12:53 AM (x6IK4)
I see your point that CI would need to raise his prices in order to not have to pay the extra 800 bucks per month out of his profits.
I don't know what a beer sells for in a bar these days but for the sake of this discussion let's say 4 bucks. So, if bar owners in NC raise their price of a beer by a nickle, to $4.05, that would cover them, right? In fact, they'd be a penny ahead of the game.
Do you think that will lead to a decrease in business for bar and restaurant owners? I don't see that such a small increase in price would have much effect. Of course, I'm not a bar/restaurant owner.
Thanks again for the explanation. I do wish CI well during these tough economic times. I wish all of us well. We'll get through these times!
Dude
Posted by: Dude at July 13, 2009 11:11 PM (byA+E)
Usually a restaurant does include their 'drinks', whether alcoholic or not, in their check, then subtotal, then apply the sales tax, and then total the bill. That is why I limited my comment to only a bar or the bar portion (when one only enters the bar and orders drinks) of a combination.
A 5 cent price increase would indeed cover his loses. However, since you admitedly do not frequent bars, please understand most bars put their drinks at even dollar, 1/2 dollar, or even 1/4 amounts. They do this for many reasons among which include (but most definitely not limited to); ease of drink order calculations, tip generation, and tax calculations. So the 5 cent increase would suffice to cover their costs but isn't practical.
How CI spedifically handles his business is his province and I may only speak in generalities.
Posted by: PhyCon at July 14, 2009 02:15 PM (4od5C)
"How CI specifically handles his business is his province and I may only speak in generalities."
Posted by: PhyCon at July 14, 2009 02:17 PM (4od5C)
For me? Yes it would. Not exactly because of the price.
Have you ever been to a strip club? If not let me explain.
You walk in with four twenty dollar bills. By the time you leave you have (unless you spend all your money on dances) thirty dollars in ones.
Imagine that, but with nickles and dimes.
I will just go to the bar that eats the cost.
Sorry CI.
Posted by: Matt at July 14, 2009 07:24 PM (XKpp2)
Posted by: Capitalist Infidel at July 15, 2009 08:30 AM (MxQFN)
Barack Obama, Economic Battlefield Surgeon
The madness of an illogical mind:
President Obama's current stimulus package increased unemployment beyond what doing nothing would have done. We know, because this is his graph. Well, it isn't entirely his graph. The light blue line represents what the Administration said we'd see if we did absolutely nothing. The dark blue line is what Obama said the stimulus would do. The red dots, however, are reality, the real numbers that Barack Obama and all the Democrats in Congress would rather ignore. Those bright, red dots represent the hundreds of thousands of Americans that have lost their jobs because Barack Obama and the Democratic Party rammed through a massive stimulus bill that none of them read. I'll repeat that again. The massive stimulus bill Democrats unanimously voted for has cost America hundreds of thousands of jobs, and Obama wants to leave the option open to do it again. Obama has become something like a mad battlefield surgeon from the Civil War, hacking off limbs with his crude and barbaric medicine, killing and maiming more than he saves. Our economy is bleeding out due to his hackery and that of the incompetents and cheats his employs. We don't need any more of his help, and we'll be damn lucky if we survive the medicine he's already prescribed.
A second economic stimulus package could still be on the table, President Obama suggested Tuesday as the unemployment rate hovered close to 10 percent. In an interview with FOX News in Moscow, Obama defended the roll-out so far of the stimulus package passed in February, saying he knew the scope of the economic crisis would make recovery difficult no matter what. "I think it's important to understand that we've got a short-term challenge which, no matter how big our stimulus was, was going to be a challenge -- partly because we've got fiscal constraints," Obama said. The president said the government has spent money as fast as it could as the "economic tsunami" unfolded, admitting that getting cash to the states has been difficult. "You just can't push that out that quickly, partly, not just because the federal government has to process applications, but also because states and local governments have to gear up to get these projects going," Obama said.
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If Obama and the Democrats in Congress who put this last one together had been a bit more bipartisan, it would have been more stimulating. Of course, we will never know if that money taken out for Nancy’s condoms would have had a stimulating effect.
Posted by: Neo at July 07, 2009 12:03 PM (5d1ix)
It's ironic that the Government of Mexico City, a leftist bastion, quickly implemented a more appropriate stimulus to counteract the effects of the swine flu: a rebate for a significant part of their payroll taxes for 2008, as long as they were current. The rebates began may 11th, and the mayor called it an investment in jobs.
The world is turned upside down!
Posted by: Doug Wenzel in San Diego, CA at July 07, 2009 02:26 PM (nezwO)
You could see how Obama's imature economic advisors played with the unemployment figures. Imagine that just as Obama would be facing the electorate in Nov 2012 that his fancifully concocted unemployment numbers had dropped to just the right 5%+ margin showing that his economic medicine had worked.
Posted by: joseph at July 07, 2009 05:36 PM (d566u)
It could be that he's even worse, a medieval doctor whose next remedy is a good bleeding.
Posted by: exceller at July 07, 2009 05:38 PM (jx2Td)
Speed was the prized attribute (that and really strong assistants). Obama is more like one famously flashy surgeon in those days who achieved a 300% fatality rate in a single procedure to amputate a leg:
- the patient (gangrene)
- an assistant who lost his fingers and contracted gangrene
- an observing older surgeon who was almost slashed in the frenzy and suffered a heart attack.
Posted by: Mike O at July 07, 2009 05:39 PM (V2bO2)
I hope you don't mind if I post a link to this article--hopefully the more who read it the more will be thinking about impeachment... Or maybe rebellion?
Posted by: LaMagdalena at July 07, 2009 05:57 PM (9dWJQ)
Posted by: w3bgrrl at July 07, 2009 06:32 PM (IsqLi)
Strangely top reporters aren't noticing the logical error there.
Posted by: Max Lybbert at July 07, 2009 06:44 PM (kLJRe)
I wonder what proportion of the money has been spent so far? Wouldn't it make more sense just to speed up the delivery of the original Porkulus money instead of adding billions more in future debt for the country?
Posted by: Truenorth at July 07, 2009 06:53 PM (y0rwM)
Posted by: Sherri at July 07, 2009 08:31 PM (oOskd)
Posted by: Willie at July 08, 2009 09:45 AM (if0be)
The massive stimulus bill Democrats unanimously voted for has cost America hundreds of thousands of jobs, and Obama wants to leave the option open to do it again.
Repeat it as many times as you like, but could you also show the math that leads you to this conclusion?
Posted by: D. Aristophanes at July 08, 2009 12:20 PM (qhJgm)
The first surgery done under anesthesia in this country was in 1845. Makes me glad I was born in the 20th century, although the strides in prompt effective treatment of war wounds are much different and better than they were even as short a time ago as the Second World War, when one of my college friends had lost one leg in a wartime plane crash. One of the things he did to help his fellow warriors was to test new advancements in prosthetics for the Veterans Administration -- which meant he essentially had to accustom himself to a new prosthesis every three weeks. If you know anyone who has an artificial limb, you know how uncomfortable that can be even today.
Today's prosthetics are a marvel to me. Our more athletic young veterans are running races on them, and indulging in sports competitions.
Medicine progresses, if it is allowed to.
Marianne Matthews
Posted by: Marianne Matthews at July 08, 2009 12:53 PM (3S3+J)
Posted by: ADS at July 08, 2009 12:55 PM (/ZYFC)
Posted by: noen at July 08, 2009 01:33 PM (8WFxA)
Maybe 10%. All that talk of shovel ready projects was largely a crock.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 08, 2009 02:12 PM (4YLl8)
What really surprises me is how flatfooted O has been during this fiasco. Even if he was really dumb enough to believe he could tax and borrow us rich he had to know this would barely effect employment on net.
Posted by: megapotamus at July 08, 2009 02:56 PM (Q4q1P)
I'm as appalled as most of you so called conservatives are at the amount of debt that we're facing. The difference is that I realize that this train wreck was a long time in the making, decades. It certainly didn't start with President Obama's tenure, nor even with Bush's tenure. This is the culmination of years of bad policy, over regulation in some areas and under regulations in other areas. The bubble that we've all been living in has finally burst.
America is by no means finished. We're a great nation and will continue to be so. But, the days of Ozzie and Harriet are over. They ain't coming back.
We're going to see more government involvement, more regulations (much needed) in the financial industry, health care, etc., etc.
Those of you who keep harping on the evils of big government should realize by now that you're living in a fantasy world if you think that we're going to see less government involvement in the future. We will be continue to be a capitalist society, for sure. However, we'll also have more aspects of socialism integrated into our version of free market capitalism. It's inevitable and not necessarily a bad thing. Change is the only constant in all societies.
Posted by: Dude at July 08, 2009 03:53 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: megapotamus at July 08, 2009 05:29 PM (Q4q1P)
Posted by: Chuck at July 09, 2009 06:43 PM (vyqps)
My point is that we're going to see more aspects of socialism integrated into our free market system. It isn't an either/or situation. It's both. Canada and most of western Europe are prime examples of what I'm talking about. They are free market nations who also happen to incorporate some aspects of socialism into their systems. Are they perfect? No. Is our system perfect? Of course not. No political system is ever going to be perfect.
Fact is, we've had socialism in our system for generations now. Farm subsidies are a form of socialism. States and counties who give huge tax breaks and provide infrastructure at tax payers' expense in order to lure large businesses to their area is a form of socialism.
Employees of the federal, state and municipal governments who receive tax payer funded health care insurance are beneficiaries of a type of socialism. The list goes on and on. We have a socialized highway system, fire protection and police services, public education, etc.
You're the one who needs to wake up. Furthermore, if your arguments have any validity at all, why do you need to insult people who have a different point of view than yours? It's because your arguments leak like a sieve.
Posted by: Dude at July 10, 2009 12:36 PM (byA+E)
You're right, I shouldn't have been so familiar with my discourse. No insult intended.
However, the main point remains intact. Government has NEVER managed ANYTHING efficiently. Every example you cite is a black hole of tax dollars. Farm subsidies are the worst kind of regressive burden on low income folks. European countries that rely on massive exports to the US to substain their welfare states are now teetering on the brink of insolvency. Canada's "socialism" is only possible through their symbiotic paracitism of the US.
You said:"States and counties who give huge tax breaks and provide infrastructure at tax payers' expense in order to lure large businesses to their area is a form of socialism". Really, Tax breaks at taxpayers expense? Please tell me exactly how many dollars the state would bring in WITHOUT that industry. I believe the answer is ZERO. So how is even zero less than zero? Of course the difference is that the state will reap the benefits of (choose your number) of NEW employees paying all the various and sundry other taxes the state imposes.
You may choose to paint the socialist state in the best possible light, I refuse to. I can point to any number of abject failures of socialist states. I challenge you to point out a state that failed because they choose the non-socialist path.
Posted by: Chuck at July 10, 2009 03:10 PM (vyqps)
Thanks for the civil response. Apology accepted.
For the record, I'm not advocating farm subsidies for US Farmers. My point is that they ARE a form of socialism and that most farmers who receive the subsidies DO advocate them, regardless of political affiliation; Democrat, Republican or Independent. The effect of US farm subsides on other nations is another topic altogether, one worthy of discussion, to be sure. Nevertheless, the fact remains that the subsidies are a form of socialism that directly benefit folks here in the US who aren't, for the most part, poor folks by any measure.
As for your statement: "Canada's "socialism" is only possible through their symbiotic paracitism of the US", I would suggest that it is more of a mutualistic symbiosis than parasitic. Both nations benefit. Again, that's another whole topic in itself for another discussion.
You make my point for me regarding my statement that "States and counties who give huge tax breaks and provide infrastructure at tax payers' expense in order to lure large businesses to their area is a form of socialism". I didn't say that this practice is a bad thing. I only said that it's a form of socialism. You're absolutely correct when you list the benefits to the state of having such policies in place. In fact, Down South, where I live, states aggressively compete with each other to offer the sweetest deals to private companies in order to bring them into our states. In my opinion that's usually, with a few exceptions, a win-win situation for everyone: the private companies, citizens who have good jobs and for the states whose revenue coffers eventually benefit from the sweet deals offered to the private companies.
Keep in mind also, please, that in many cases it isn't just tax deductions offered to these companies when luring them into a state or municipality. In the case of the new VW plant under construction in Chattanooga, you can read a list of the free goodies offered to VW by Chattanooga, Hamilton County and the state of Tennessee at this page:
http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2008/jul/24/chattanooga-vw-incentives-largest-state/
Again, I'm not against this policy. In fact, I think it's a great idea for the economy of our state and that region in particular. I'm simply calling it what it is: A form of socialism.
I, too, can point out a long list of "abject failures of socialist states", IF we're talking pure, ideological socialism. Of course, "pure" socialism will always be a failure. That isn't what I'm talking about.
Though I can't point out "a state that failed because they choose the non-socialist path": I don't know of ANY successful states that haven't incorporated some forms of socialism into their political/economic system. I CAN point out a list of states (nations) that have and are becoming pure socialist and communist states because the ruling minority elite of those nations didn't have enough sense to offer a fair shake to the majority poor of their nations. Think Venezuela, Bolivia and Cuba to mention a few North American nations.
To be perfectly clear, I'm not advocating the current political leadership in those countries. My point here is that the systems that we most fear here in America are now a reality in those nations simply because of the lack of foresight, and greed, of the previous leadership of those nations.
Kind Regards,
Posted by: Dude at July 10, 2009 09:00 PM (byA+E)
Anyway, hopefully the AA Messiah will flame out soon enough for his & others' red-bannered fantasies NOT to become reality.
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 11, 2009 09:03 PM (6XMIC)
Gullible's Travels
Obviously, part of what Mr. President is concealing in his hidden university records are his failing grades in history.
"The future does not belong to those who gather armies on a field of battle or bury missiles in the ground."
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 08:51 AM | Comments (28) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
Of course, he thinks we suck, so.....
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Posted by: eaglewingz08 at July 11, 2009 05:34 PM (RdRrk)
July 06, 2009
An Ode to Michael Jackson
Ashes to ashes Dust to dust Let's bury the freak And get on the bus
Yeah, I borrowed that from something I read somewhere years ago, but it fits.
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Posted by: Jack at July 07, 2009 10:15 AM (Ss83y)
Posted by: Jack at July 07, 2009 10:18 AM (Ss83y)
Dust to Dust,
If Heaven won't have you,
The Devil must.
From "Beau Geste" by P.C. Wren
Posted by: Don Meaker at July 11, 2009 07:39 PM (y2oBR)
Posted by: SDN at July 11, 2009 09:51 PM (KrlaU)
OBAMANOMICS: NC Unemployment to Hit Highest Rate since Great Depression
North Carolina's unemployment rate, already one of the highest in the country at 11.1 percent, will "peak" at 13 percent in the first quarter of 2010 before it begins to improve, North Carolina State University economist Michael Walden predicted Monday. In his "North Carolina Economic Outlook" report, Walden said that "an emerging consensus" points to an economic rebound beginning "in late 2009 or 2010."
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Posted by: 1903A3 at July 06, 2009 12:40 PM (E8ZSe)
Posted by: davod at July 07, 2009 05:33 AM (GUZAT)
Posted by: 1903A3 at July 07, 2009 05:53 AM (E8ZSe)
Posted by: megapotamus at July 07, 2009 07:01 AM (g08cR)
Posted by: emdfl at July 07, 2009 08:12 AM (blNMI)
Posted by: RC at July 07, 2009 03:48 PM (gPfUJ)
I'm going abscond with that line if you don't mind.
Posted by: emdfl at July 07, 2009 08:31 PM (Mkonf)
"The Obama Administration is the Most Fiscally Irresponsible in the History of the U.S."
That comes from a paragraph of Kevin Hassett's at Bloomburg:
Nothing President Obama has done adds up. Not his economic strategy, nor his domestic policy, nor his foreign policy. Just an eighth of the way through his presidency Barack Obama appears to be the most dangerously incompetent man to have ever held the office, doing more long-term damage to this nation than any foreign invader could have ever dreamed. That he has another 3 1/2 years in office ahead of him, and an equally radical coalition of far left activists in Congress until at least 2010, is disheartening, to say the least.
The federal picture is so bleak because the Obama administration is the most fiscally irresponsible in the history of the U.S. I would imagine that he would be the intergalactic champion as well, if we could gather the data on deficits on other worlds. Obama has taken George W. Bush's inattention to deficits and elevated it to an art form. The Obama administration has no shame, and is willing to abandon reason altogether to achieve its short-term political goals. Ronald Reagan ran up big deficits in part because he believed that his tax cuts would produce economic growth, and ultimately pay for themselves. He may well have been excessively optimistic about the merits of tax cuts, but at least he had a story. Obama has no story. Nobody believes that his unprecedented expansion of the welfare state will lead to enough economic growth. Nobody believes that it will pay for itself. Everyone understands that higher spending today begets higher spending tomorrow. That means that his economic strategy simply doesn't add up.
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Posted by: terri at July 06, 2009 12:14 PM (IoOoM)
Obama a man with a tax plan.
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at July 06, 2009 12:22 PM (RdRrk)
Posted by: steve at July 06, 2009 01:09 PM (gHpnK)
Posted by: precista46 at July 06, 2009 01:13 PM (o3aeg)
Can American liberals even spell Jihad? Sharia law? Sharia Finance?
Soetoro is doing the bidding of the Followers of ISLAM worldwide.
The mosques are already here. The Wahabbis are already here. THere is a mosque at Quantico for criminey sakes.
Now, there will be a flood of Followers of ISLAM that will make the European immigration wave of the 19th and 20th centuries look like summer tourist trade.
One of Soetoro's first executive acts as President was to import 20,000 "Palestinians" (i. e. FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM) into the USA on our taxpayer dime, complete with housing and living allowances.
It is time to remove this Imposter Poseur Extraordinaire from Office and jail him for multiple violations of the US Constitution he was sworn to protect.
Bear1909 out.
Posted by: Bear1909 at July 06, 2009 02:43 PM (XzXLz)
Look -- the top 5% of income-earners in the U.S. pay way over half the taxes. More than 43% of "taxpayers" in the U.S. in fact pay no taxes at all -- and Obama's policies are rapidly increasing the share paid by the few, and increasing the proportion of the population who pay no taxes, and who in fact receive checks from the "government".
Now, ask yourself what percentage of the vote is cast by the top 5% of income-earners. Right.
His plan is to buy votes and to construct a permanent ruling class -- the democrat elitists. They are buying the votes and leaving themselves a handsome commission from the "leftovers".
He is doing exactly what he said he'd do. He's "returning the nation's wealth to its rightful owners". And he gets to define "rightful owners".
And there is not a single solitary thing that the people who are paying for all of this can "hope" to do to "change" this.
Posted by: Jim at July 06, 2009 03:15 PM (fkElL)
Posted by: xerocky at July 06, 2009 03:29 PM (Ue3lr)
Posted by: rrpjr at July 06, 2009 07:17 PM (pqe+5)
Posted by: Georg Felis at July 06, 2009 08:45 PM (i5bRG)
Posted by: Red Ken at July 06, 2009 10:06 PM (znAs1)
Could you please provide some documentation that proves that one of President Obama's "first executive acts as President was to import 20,000 "Palestinians" (i. e. FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM) into the USA on our taxpayer dime, complete with housing and living allowances."
I've just looked here:
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/2009-obama.html
and can't seem to find an executive order regarding the importation of 20,000 Palestinians.
Perhaps I've missed something. A credible link would be appreciated.
In regards to your statement that there's a mosque at Quantico, your point is???
In America people are free to practice whatever religion that they wish, or no religion at all for that matter.
Posted by: Dude at July 06, 2009 10:55 PM (byA+E)
Posted by: Red Ken at July 06, 2009 11:25 PM (znAs1)
Diversity Visas:
"...In addition, another type of visa that is dangerous and is an IV (Immigrant Visa), is what is called a "Diversity" visa -- a class of immigrants known as “diversity immigrants.” Diversity Visas (DV) each fiscal year are made available to persons from countries with low rates of immigration to the United States. The annual DV program makes visas available to persons meeting the simple eligibility requirements. A computer-generated, random lottery drawing chooses selectees for diversity visas. The visas are distributed among six geographic regions, with a greater number of visas going to regions with lower rates of immigration.
Just to give you an idea of the impact of these changes on regions rife with jihad, look at the number -- and this is just April alone. Just the month of April.
Immigrant numbers in the "diversity visa" for April alone have Africa at 26,900, Egypt 17,400, Somalia 15,700, Nigeria 9,900, Asia 17,400, Bangladesh 11,000. And don't be fooled by Europe's number of 20,800 -- diversity means we are importing Europe's Pakistanis, Moroccans, Algerians, etc., and we know how well they have integrated into those societies.
North America 7, (Bahamas), Oceania 715, South America, 900...
.... "Persons from the Gaza Strip are chargeable to Egypt" and as you can see Egypt gets its special quota.
Numbers for May are:
Africa - 32,400
Except: Egypt 19,150 (Of course, Egypt, The Muslim Brotherhood, et al gets almost 20,000)
Ethiopia 17,750 (This means Somalis)
Nigeria 11,550 (Not the Christians. They are mainly the muslims who apply for this one)
Asia 22,800
Europe 24,900 (It's a "Diversity Visa" which means more Pakistanis, etc.)
North America 10 (Bahamas)
Oceania 825
South America, 1,000
Central America,
and the Caribbean
Notice that the highest countries with winners for the DV for 2009 include:
Bangladesh
Germany
Algeria
Morocco
Nigeria
Egypt
Ethiopia
Kenya
Iran..."
Posted by: davod at July 07, 2009 05:59 AM (GUZAT)
Posted by: emdfl at July 07, 2009 08:22 AM (blNMI)
Thanks for the info. However, I'm still interested in a credible link to a web site that documents this information as fact.
emdfl: Thank you for your incredible insight and sense of subtly. It's with much anticipation that I look forward to more of your posts. When I read posts such as yours, in response to fair and legitimate questions, I realize that I'm in the presence of an intellectual giant.
Posted by: Dude at July 07, 2009 05:18 PM (byA+E)
While I haven't located the numbers davod has, here's a link to the program he mentions. Of course this took me a whopping 20 seconds to find and I haven't really looked for davod's numbers yet...
2010 Diversity Visa Program
His claims appear plausible at least for a year period. I'll hunt around a bit more and see if I can find them.
Posted by: PhyCon at July 07, 2009 05:55 PM (4od5C)
For anyone who may be interested, the so called Diversity Visas were mandated by Congress with the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1990. This is not a new program. A lot of information can be found here:
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/DocView/slbid/1/2
And here:
http://www.uscis.gov/propub/DocView/slbid/1/2
Unless there have been recent changes that I'm not aware of these visas are limited to 50,000 each year:
http://foreignborn.com/visas_imm/immigrant_visas/8the_diversity.htm
If that is indeed the case, the numbers posted by Davod are over the limit, well over the limit.
There is a LOT of information available on this topic. I readily admit that there may be more up to date factual information that I'm not aware of.
Interesting topic. On thing to keep in mind that is that the applications for these coveted visas far exceeds that actual number of visas that are issued.
Best wishes to all.
Posted by: Dude at July 08, 2009 12:06 AM (byA+E)
Posted by: eaglewingz08 at July 11, 2009 05:37 PM (RdRrk)
Totally meaningless, as usual. Who cares that not everyone is granted access to the US? The point is that too many people ARE. But then, maybe to certain Dudes out there, another attack would be just penance for our nation's sins, so what the hey. Let every Tom, Dick, n' Achmed in!
Posted by: Nine-of-Diamonds at July 11, 2009 09:07 PM (6XMIC)
July 05, 2009
After Three Centuries, Brits Lose Ability to Arm Themselves
Rather pathetic considering their history of small arms development, but perhaps to be expected from a now-neutered nanny-state that thinks normal kitchen knives are too dangerous.
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He's right, it doesn't matter. Until it does ... and you no longer have the capability of producing those things.
Posted by: DoorHold at July 05, 2009 12:23 PM (/Lp1y)
Posted by: BCC at July 05, 2009 08:25 PM (znAs1)
May I presume you hail from the UK? No matter, I shall continue. First off BCC you are wildly off topic, so much so you might as well be a spambot. Was that too harsh?
Anyway, to answer your question, " Can anyone explain why the UK should legalise the posession of handguns?" How about, because it would make no difference in the rate of violence.
I see you have pulled the old trick of trying to directly compare violence in the U.S. with the UK, with the underlying assumption that the only difference between the two nations is the legality of handguns. My my, is that the best you can offer? How disappointing.
How much more productive it would be to compare the Britain of 100 years ago to the Britain of today. Now certainly, much has changed in 100 years, but not nearly the kinds of differences between the UK of today and the U.S. today.
One of the interesting differences of the Britain past and present, is the lower rates of violence and crime in general of the past. Another interesting difference was the almost total lack of regulation of firearms. Why, 100 years ago any ordinary citizen (not the Irish of course) could pop into a gun shop, put down some money and walk away down the street with a loaded pistol in his pocket, all nice and legal.
How about that? Yet todays Britain can no longer even manage to manufacture rifles for it's own Army. How very sad and pathetic.
Posted by: Brad at July 06, 2009 02:57 AM (xb/wi)
The ansgt is moot anyway. There's no valid reason the UK, or any other EU state, ought to even have a national military. That's a relic of th eoutmoded era of independent nation-states. It's all skittles and unicorns and tons of free stuff from the government from now on!
And it'll get even better once they're all living under sharia.
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at July 06, 2009 06:40 AM (Vcyz0)
Aside from that there are certain tid bits of knowledge (and production capability) you just don't want passing from your national repertoire.
Posted by: Scott at July 06, 2009 08:10 AM (sQmd1)
Posted by: Federale at July 06, 2009 11:11 AM (Tg86i)
Posted by: Stretch at July 06, 2009 02:44 PM (l2GGH)
July 04, 2009
Big Democrat Donors Bluffed to Close Tea Party Protest
I wrote recently about how Democratic Party donors used their influence to shut down the Atlanta Tea Party after reading conservative blogs, including an entry on Confederate Yankee where I warned that if the ever-encroaching government did not reign in ever-expansing intrusions into personal liberties, they may one day face their own Lexington Green.
We now know that the group responsible for shutting down the protest did so by apparently lying about their authority in order to get the protest cancelled. The Simon Property Group had no legal claim, and seems to have bluffed the actual property owner into canceling the event. Democrats spent much of the Bush Presidency warning of an impending fascist state, and now seem to be doing everything in their power to create one of their own, where even peaceable dissent is to be quashed if at all possible. Happy Independence Day.Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 09:13 AM | Comments (31) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
"The same forces which make peaceful evolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
Posted by: GEJ at July 04, 2009 09:35 AM (TOUOd)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at July 04, 2009 03:33 PM (g/H5G)
Posted by: Ken Hahn at July 04, 2009 10:55 PM (gHFXi)
Posted by: DoorHold at July 05, 2009 12:28 PM (/Lp1y)
1. Did The Simon Property Group also contribute heavily to Republican Party causes?
2. What role did the government play, if any, in prohibiting this "tea part"?
Posted by: Dude at July 06, 2009 01:08 AM (byA+E)
Palin Resigns
I was driving back from Savannah, GA yesterday with my family and didn't get in until last night, and so the news that Sarah Palin resigned the governorship of Alaska is still very new to me.
I haven't yet caught up on the commentary that I'm sure is reverberating around the blogosphere, and I can't fathom why Palin would chosen to resign now, and in the manner she did. Perhaps she's gunning for Lisa Murkowski's Senate seat. Murkowski sure seem to be reacting that way in a defensive press release. Others, I imagine, will conclude this is an unorthodox move from an unorthodox Presidential contender already laying the groundwork for at the Republican nomination for 2012. I doubt it, as the timing simply seems off. The only way resigning now for a Presidential run would make any sense in my mind is if Palin was considering a run on a conservative third party ticket, and thought she needed the time to make the third party candidacy a viable option. My greater fear is that Palin resigned because of some sort of medical issue that she would prefer to keep out of the public eye. No, I'm not thinking that there is another child on the way (though considering her seemingly excellent physical condition, I wouldn't rule it out), but it isn't out of the realm of possibility that a personal or family ailment may require immediate medical attention. I sincerely hope that this is not the case. Time, I suspect, will answer all our questions.Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 08:50 AM | Comments (56) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
It has to be a politically calculated move. Just from what I've seen from Sarahcudda, she wouldn't do it to "hide" anything!
I don't think it is a third party thing either. Palin is a winner and you won't win with a third party - at least not yet, anyway.
As Lewis Carrol migh say, "Curiouser and curiouser..."
Posted by: GEJ at July 04, 2009 09:28 AM (TOUOd)
To say you are quitting half way through your term because you suddenly realize that you are a lame duck governor is about the most bizarre excuse I have ever heard.
Some Conservative supporters are patting her on the back for her "wise political move so she could better position herself for a presidential run". That's like congratulating a general for abandoning his troops in the middle of the battle so he can "spend more time with his family."
So, Sarah. Here's what I usually tell my kids when they get bored with one project and want to move on to something else more exciting. You finish the first job before you go on to the next one.
A lot of her supporters spent a lot of time and money to put her into office. She’s betrayed all of them.
Not that Parnell won’t be a good Governor…but then she should have been campaigning for Parnell instead of running herself.
This is political stupidity.
Perhaps it’s just as well McCain/Palin ticket went down to defeat.
Had they won Palin might got tired of playing "VP" , and quit half way through to start working on her next goal...president.
Posted by: Norris Hall at July 04, 2009 12:54 PM (JcD3+)
Sure, she could start a legal defense fund.... which only opens her up to more charges. That doesn't even count the time they eat up from being governor.
Finally, the Rats are wetting themselves over the possibility of criminal charges from the O! administration. That wouldn't surprise me; after all, they have the crack career DOJ (which donated to O! 2-1 in the last election) prosecution team from the Sen. Stevens case. They're in place, and now they know who to avoid talking to when it comes to anything resembling exculpatory evidence...
Posted by: SDN at July 04, 2009 01:00 PM (KrlaU)
Posted by: SDN at July 04, 2009 01:02 PM (KrlaU)
Posted by: Dennis D at July 04, 2009 01:34 PM (EbvWp)
One this is for sure: The biggest political mistake that John McCain has ever made in his notable political career was having chosen this woman to be his running mate. Many of us who consider ourselves to be independents in the voting booth are STILL asking ourselves WHY on earth would McCain have made such a foolish choice. The answer, of course, is that he was trying to appeal to the far right wing of the GOP, the so called "base".
In reality, that base is becoming more and more irrelevant in American Politics. If the GOP ever hopes to become a national party again, they're going to have quit pandering to the far right minority.
Palin's political career is finished.
Posted by: Dude at July 04, 2009 03:49 PM (byA+E)
”If she can’t handle criticism from bloggers, then how could she handle al-Qaeda?”
Self-pity will destroy the GOP. The move does strengthen Rudy Giuliani and others who would rather fight than quit. But too many Republicans act like ACORN and the MSM leave them no choice but whining and crying and quitting.
America hates quitters. Plain and simple. Don't complain, get back in there and fight.
Posted by: tjproudamerican at July 04, 2009 06:37 PM (utMR9)
Ensign. Christian "Promise Keeper." Affair with staffer, payoffs to husband and kids. Strike one!
Sanford. Family values, sanctity of marriage, blah blah blah. Argentinian mistress. Trips to see her financed by taxpayers. Lovesick blather upon return. Strike two!
Palin. "A servant's heart" and associated evangelical dog whistling. Unprepared to begin with. Erratic and wacky throughout. Personally corrupt. Steeeeerike three, YOU'RE OUT!
Do you people realize just how foolish and phony you look? Do you have any idea what the voters are going to do to you in 2010 and 2012? Hoo boy, is your day ever coming, and it couldn't happen to a more deserving pack of freaks!
Posted by: Amused As Hell at July 04, 2009 06:38 PM (J+2TZ)
McCain also was too old and refused to really campaign against Obama. I personally only voted for and donated to him because of Palin and I am no right wing extremist. The independents that Mac was supposed to appeal to voted overwhelmingly for Obama, even his long time friend, Colin Powell. No, the biggest mistake McCain made was calling Republicans racists for being against his illegal immigrant scheme, bending over for the Democrats throughout his career, calling us "my friends" and being a maverick, which meant sticking it to his party whenever it pleased him. Oh and suspending his campaign and that he-he laugh didn't help him. Without Palin it would have been a disaster of Walter Mondale proportions, my friend!
Posted by: Michelle at July 04, 2009 06:51 PM (Bh8wk)
Posted by: Michelle at July 04, 2009 07:03 PM (Bh8wk)
Posted by: Gary Ogletree at July 04, 2009 08:11 PM (7niIv)
Posted by: Pablo at July 05, 2009 10:25 AM (yTndK)
Everybody - supporters and detractors alike - are guessing what the ulterior, political motives must be.
The scientific method states in part that the researcher should accept the simplest answer that fits until it is proven wrong before we insist on more complex and complicated causes...
Why do we do the reverse and assume someone like Palin isn't telling the real truth when they explain why they are doing something?
The woman is human. She has the big demands of a new baby with down syndrome and another "child" who just had a baby of her own and is unwed.
It is very easy to understand that people in such circumstances often see to relieve pressure through change.
Like when Michael Jordan first retired from the NBA. Nobody seemed to think about the fact his father had been killed in the recent past. His making a life-altering decision as part of his reaction to that personal stress was normal - not terribly surprising.
With Palin's family situation - and the press constantly seeking to destroy her and her political opponents seeking to financially ruin her --- her decision is not a very hard one to understand...
Posted by: usinkorea at July 05, 2009 12:11 PM (PTbTx)
Posted by: DoorHold at July 05, 2009 12:33 PM (/Lp1y)
Posted by: Michelle at July 05, 2009 12:43 PM (Bh8wk)
Either way, it doesn't really matter too much. If they nail her, it's fantastic entertainment. If they don't nail her, then she's still a wacko coward who couldn't stand the heat. Her actions won't win her a single new supporter, but her cult followers will stick with her until the end, and make the Republicans all that much more electable!
There is absolutely no downside for the Democrats on this one! Want to lead with your freak show? Have at it!!
Posted by: Amused As Hell at July 05, 2009 04:30 PM (J+2TZ)
To add to the mix, there has been a flood of frivolous law suits directed at her by the liberal left which hates her for her efficiency in governance, her intelligence and her beauty. None of these suits has had any merit and none of them have been adjudicated against her. But they have cost money in lawyer's fees to defend against -- $500,000 so far. That's a big financial hit for any family. Additionally, they of course have been a distraction from her real job -- governing Alaska.
Add to this her efforts to keep her husband and family from fighting back to defend her against constant insults from the ignorant left, and her life has been quite exhausting since the election.
I think her move is a wise one. Why should she suffer a thousand cuts from smartasses like yourself who have never run a company, never run a city, never run a state.
Next time you want to insult an achiever like Sarah, sign your own name, like I'm signing mine.
Marianne Matthews
Posted by: Marianne Matthews at July 05, 2009 05:26 PM (3S3+J)
I have no way of knowing, but I'm hoping and praying that she will be launching a major offensive against Zero and the insane policies he and the 'rats in Congress are shoving down this country's throat.
Am I with her, if that is her plan? You betcha!
Posted by: Spartan79 at July 05, 2009 10:58 PM (jWvfJ)
I wish her a happy life, I will not vote for her ever, I will vote for 3rd party folk who can take the attacks of the libs.
Posted by: duncan at July 05, 2009 11:22 PM (N8K+g)
It's one of those Christian crapola dogwhistle things that the nutcases use to signal each other.
Try, for instance, putting yourself in Sarah's shoes.
I don't even call the ones I support by their first names. I call my friends by my first name, and I have never once considered any politician my friend. If you consider "Sarah" your friend, then I pity you.
She has a tough job, which she has carried out with outstanding success, and has a constituent approval rating which exceeds 70%.
I don't think she's done a good job. And you are wrong about her approval rating. It was 54% in May. Stop making things up.
Have you ever been a governor of a state? It's not an easy job.
Have you been a governor? How would you know how difficult it is?
Alaska is the largest state in the Union, in landmass, and has many demanding needs to be met by its government and its governor.
Well golly gee!!
In addition, she has a large and loving family which deserves and gets a generous amount of her time.
I think her family is a white trash mess, myself. Her husband knocked her up before she was married, and had at least one affair while they were married. One of her daughters was knocked up. The one son in the Army was a druggie, a vandal, and a drinker in high school. The Palin family is a mess.
To add to the mix, there has been a flood of frivolous law suits directed at her by the liberal left which hates her for her efficiency in governance, her intelligence and her beauty.
The lovely Sarah filed an ethics complaint against herself last year. No one hates her, but many don't respect her. She's kinda hot in a stripper porn star sort of way, but she's not intelligent. She took five years to graduate from a fourth-rate college, and she was stupid that the McCain campaign did everything it could to shut her up last year.
Additionally, they of course have been a distraction from her real job -- governing Alaska.
And traveling around the country giving speeches to wingnut conventions. Let's face it, Sarah couldn't stand the heat, so she quit her job. I suppose you'd like her to be president so she can quit that job when the critics are too mean.
Why should she suffer a thousand cuts from smartasses like yourself who have never run a company, never run a city, never run a state.
You have no idea what I have done or haven't done. And how about yourself? Mary Kay cosmetics distributor, maybe? Amway on the side?
Posted by: Amused As Hell at July 06, 2009 03:15 AM (J+2TZ)
Posted by: Amused As Hell at July 06, 2009 03:17 AM (J+2TZ)
Marianne, you're too classy to get in the mud with the likes of these- just let them display themselves, and be seen for what they are.
Posted by: douglas at July 06, 2009 05:58 AM (20QoQ)
If you had the deep pockets of those like George Soros and Warren Buffet pitted against you could you prevail? I personally think it was the endless lawsuits that were bankrupting her family and interfering with her ability to act as governor that propmted her to step down. There aren't many who could afford to defend themselves against that kind of assault indefinitely.
Posted by: Scott at July 06, 2009 08:30 AM (mqy6N)
Posted by: Amused As Hell at July 07, 2009 12:15 AM (J+2TZ)
Posted by: emdfl at July 07, 2009 08:28 AM (blNMI)
Posted by: Amused As Hell at July 07, 2009 08:21 PM (J+2TZ)
Posted by: douglas at July 08, 2009 04:20 AM (20QoQ)
Posted by: Sharon at July 09, 2009 11:03 AM (EmagB)
It's time for you to take your meds. It's fine with me if you think that my post is nonsense. However, I made no mention of an FBI investigation.
I don't know Jason Leopold nor who he is. Rest assured, I ain't him.
Posted by: Dude at July 10, 2009 02:35 PM (byA+E)
July 02, 2009
Thomas: Obama Worse Than Nixon
Wizened White House Press Corps gnome Helen Thomas says that the current administration's attempts to control the press is the worst she's seen:
Anyone who has been closely following Obama's Presidential run has long known that our neophyte leader has forged an illusion of competence by being more heavily stage-managed than a teen pop group (while being roughly as qualified). It really says quite a bit when a reporter as experienced and blatantly liberal as Thomas rips into the administration as she has.
"I'm not saying there has never been managed news before, but this is carried to fare-thee-well--for the town halls, for the press conferences," she said. "It's blatant. They don't give a damn if you know it or not. They ought to be hanging their heads in shame."
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 08:07 AM | Comments (68) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
Obama doesn't have a tithe of the political savvy LBJ had. He's going to be running into a brick wall -- of his own making -- any day now.
I've got half a case of popcorn. This should be almost as much fun to watch as Lucha Libre.
Posted by: Steffan at July 02, 2009 10:19 AM (GniAO)
So question for Ms Thomas, what basis did you to believe that Barack Obama was competent, as opposes to merely slickly packagyed? When did you discover that Obama was a fraud?
Thomas a columinst, not a reporter. I believe her column appears in one paper. Count em.
Posted by: DavidL at July 02, 2009 10:38 AM (AK8DM)
Granted the MSM should be ashamed of itself, but since anyone who comes out against BO or criticizes his administration will already find themselves under attack by Obamamaniacs there is no reason for conservatives to "pile on" too. Be grateful for another voice decrying "dear Leader".
Posted by: Scott at July 02, 2009 11:23 AM (sQmd1)
While I agree with you regarding Thomas she does have her moments of fluidity and this was one of them. She has been in the front row of the press room since Eisenhower and has broken a myriad of stories of which still effects us today. Her statement was SPOT ON and she deserves some respect in my opinion of course as she has seen any and all attempts at POTUS manipulation and this charge is damning. She supported Obama just as I based upon what Obama promised in the primaries that were parroted in the general. This is what got my vote and now its obviuous Mr. Obama doesn;t have a clue. Iran? Hunduras? N.Korea, shall I go on?
Tina
Posted by: Tina at July 02, 2009 12:01 PM (vpbdO)
But if she's so smart, why did it take so long to recognize the manipulation of the all-too-willing press which Obama has successfully employed since 2004?
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Posted by: Old Bob at July 02, 2009 03:19 PM (nJ7MX)
Want to know why Obama wants to reinstate Zelaya in Honduras? Because he knows that if tries to muscle his way to a third term, he could be in for the same treatment from SCOTUS, Congress, the Armed Forces, and an armed citizenry.
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Posted by: megapotamus at July 03, 2009 02:06 PM (W//tK)
Great post!
http://www.commoncts.blogspot.com
ps. Link Exchange??
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Posted by: John Ruberry at July 04, 2009 11:59 AM (5fr7A)
There's NO WAY she's suddenly non-partisan.
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June 29, 2009
Changes in Latitude
I'm in West Palm Beach this week on vacation. Blogging will be light, the Bacardi cold, and the water warm.
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Marianne
Posted by: Marianne Matthews at June 30, 2009 11:39 AM (3S3+J)
Besides... it is a little cooler and a lot less humid than home right now.
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Best wishes ...... Marianne
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June 26, 2009
Pissing Away America's Promise: Cap and Trade Passes 219-212
ON CSPAN.com (not link yet)
Never have so few done so much to so many for so little.
HOUSE PASSES ENERGY BILL, 219-212
Today The House has approved passage of the American Clean Energy & Security Act by a vote of 219 to 212. The climate change bill, a legislative priority of Pres. Obama's, centers on a renewable electricity standard, and a cap-and-trade policy aimed at reducing U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. The Senate is likely to take up the legislation after the July 4th recess.
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Posted by: megapotamus at June 27, 2009 10:27 AM (spPXM)
This is not a give in/up comment though it may seem like one. I think we fight like hell to defeat these socialists. Some day in the future it may come to violence, but now we keep up the pressure, kick out non conservatives on the local level, replace the sellouts in the House, and punish those in the Senate like Arlen.
That said, I have a question: Is this disaster Cap & Tax reversible at some point like 2012??
I have a framed copy of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence in my office - I read a little of it every day - if only those guys were here now.
Posted by: mixitup at June 27, 2009 02:11 PM (Z21cb)
And there is another 20% or so leftards who actively hate this country, the Constitution, and any vague semblance of capitalism. So that is around 33% right there who actively would like the USA to turn into some 3rd world kleptocracy where they believe they will control the power and steal from the rest of us.
Sad, but true. And we cannot do anything about it until we recognize the truth of the situation and ruthlessly act to rectify it.
Posted by: iconoclast at June 27, 2009 03:58 PM (1VmUD)
I hope you're right, but I fear that by then it will be too late.
Posted by: J.T. Wenting at June 28, 2009 01:17 AM (hrLyN)
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at June 28, 2009 01:21 AM (7rJCZ)
Posted by: David at June 28, 2009 12:01 PM (6oJJs)
Leftist/Liberals/Progressives and present day Democrats are really strange people.
Posted by: Rick at June 28, 2009 12:46 PM (FWmwx)
As I said earlier, you start at the lacal level and build. We have a powerful conservative force here in Gwinnette County, and across our state. Sadly, we have a lot of liberals moving here as well, so it is a constant struggle.
Sounding off is the way it starts. It is not all rhetoric. We conservatives have to put relentless pressure on our House and Senate represenatives.
Posted by: mixitup at June 28, 2009 12:51 PM (Z21cb)
Cap&Trade is a complete rip-off, but it makes some people feel all warm and fuzzy, so destroying the economy is worth it, isn't it? /sarcasm And again, four years from now it'll be a major source of income for Obama (mark my words).
Posted by: DoorHold at June 28, 2009 01:57 PM (M7V2r)
Posted by: JB at June 28, 2009 07:37 PM (znAs1)
Now that is what I am talking about when I say action is needed. Not the protesting and other activities that have been tried over the last several years. It is clear that there is a large portion of people in the US that is unhappy with the other large portion. I would estimate at leat 30% liberals against 30% conservatives with only 30% actually determining the course of this country and they make their decisions on how well someone gives a speech or how good they look. I for one feel that the War of Northern Agression was a clear mistake and that the South at least should be allowed to go its own way as they did in 1860. The rest can, well don't want to get carried away. We need action on this, not talk!!
Posted by: David at June 29, 2009 02:21 PM (6oJJs)
Posted by: capt26thga at June 29, 2009 06:00 PM (1aVil)
Take a page from Acorn and show up at their offices and place of residence. Let them know you're pissed and that they need to keep their butts in line for the remainder of their term.
Posted by: Scott at June 30, 2009 12:17 PM (sQmd1)
Amazon Closes Associates Program in North Carolina Over Tax Concerns
Via email this morning, another classic case of tax-and-spend Democrats costing American jobs through short-sighted greed.
I don't personally know of anyone who used the Associates program as anything other than an alternative source of income, but the fact remains that it was taxable income, and now it's nothing. NC Democrats have acted rashly, attempting to use the Associates program as an "in" to tax Amazon's corporate profits. They were hoping for a big payday. Now they—and we—get nothing.
We are writing from the Amazon Associates Program to notify you that your Associates account has been closed as of June 26, 2009. This is a direct result of the unconstitutional tax collection scheme expected to be passed any day now by the North Carolina state legislature (the General Assembly) and signed by the governor. As a result, we will no longer pay any referral fees for customers referred to Amazon.com or Endless.com after June 26. We were forced to take this unfortunate action in anticipation of actual enactment because of uncertainties surrounding the legislation's effective date. Please be assured that all qualifying referral fees earned prior to June 26, 2009 will be processed and paid in full in accordance with our regular referral fee schedule. Based on your account closure date of June 26, 2009, any final payments will be paid by September 1, 2009. In the event that North Carolina repeals this tax collection scheme, we would certainly be happy to re-open our Associates program to North Carolina residents. The North Carolina General Assembly’s website is http://www.ncleg.net/, and additional information may be obtained from the Performance Marketing Alliance at http://www.performancemarketingalliance.com/. We have enjoyed working with you and other North Carolina-based participants in the Amazon Associates Program, and wish you all the best in your future. Best Regards,
The Amazon Associates Team
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Posted by: jav at June 26, 2009 07:24 AM (SxIpk)
But it is "fair" which is all that matters to some.
Posted by: Tregonsee at June 26, 2009 08:10 AM (FTqcA)
Posted by: Jack at June 26, 2009 08:45 AM (Ss83y)
Soviet dissident: "Under socialism, we have nothing!"
Communist Party member: "True enough. However, at least it's equally shared."
Posted by: MarkJ at June 26, 2009 09:41 AM (ZFVlP)
The email has precious little background information and I'm wondering why.
D
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Posted by: Opus17 at June 26, 2009 10:07 AM (0rpqu)
http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/06/26/article/amazon_cuts_relationships_with_affiliates
It appears that NC is trying to impose a sales tax on purchases made through affiliate click-through links, even if the purchases does not live in NC.
I live in New York, and Amazon already collects NYS sales tax on my purchases. It seems that this new law would have required Amazon to also collect NC sales tax, if I followed a click-through link from an NC resident.
Posted by: Opus17 at June 26, 2009 10:15 AM (0rpqu)
I don't know for sure, but I would guess that the legislation would make Associates an official business address in NC (which is just nonsense), making all sales in NC taxable (not just those with an Associate in NC).
If a business has an office in your state (even if the HQ is somewhere else), mail order or not, you have to pay sales tax. By closing the program in NC, Amazon is sending the signal that they won't be bullied, and this will discourage other states from passing similar legislation, to make the address of royalty or commission recipients an address of the company.
States have been salivating over ways to apply sales tax to out of state purchases.
It is, as Amazon has stated, an unconstitutional measure. The Founders wrapped it up entirely. Congress cannot tax goods in a state and states can't tax each other's goods.
Article I: Section 9: No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.
Article I: Section 10: No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Control of the Congress.
Posted by: Mrs. du Toit at June 26, 2009 10:15 AM (IG1sJ)
Internet merchants have escaped state sales taxes. North Carolina tried to grab some revenue from in-state internet merchants, so their local Walmarts would not be at so much of a disadvantage. It does not appear to be working.
Posted by: Ted at June 26, 2009 10:18 AM (BaOGZ)
Amazon associates are bloggers that have cut a deal with Amazon to get a percentage of the purchase price of items they recommend if their readers who purchase those items do so through a direct link to Amazon from their blog.
Usually a state doesn't charge sales tax on internet sales items because States can collect taxes on goods that people buy off the internet only if the company they bought the stuff from maintains an 'economic presence' in that state. Traditionally this means a brick and mortar store that handles distribution of goods ordered on line.
Because Amazon has no retail outlets in any state the only revenue that the state can legally collect on Amazon's total sales to residents of the state is the income taxes on the payment by Amazon to their associates and sales through these associates is a very small fraction of Amazon's total sales in any state
North Carolina has decided to expand the definition of an 'economic presence' for Amazon in their state to include bloggers who are Amazon associates that reside in North Carolina.
This would allow the State of North Carolina to charge sales tax on ALL sales by Amazon to anyone residing in North Carolina, not just on sales by Amazon Associates.
By trying to gain a sales tax windfall on all of Amazon's sales in NC the NC legislature has effectively destroyed a small but healthy revenue stream available to the citizens of North Carolina.
otpu
Posted by: otpu at June 26, 2009 10:29 AM (ENINb)
Sorry, Ted, I call bullshit.
The states have not been living within their means. They've been providing welfare benefits to anyone who passes through. They've discouraged business development (where they can get additional tax revenue) and put onerous regulations on new business startups and home-based businesses.
And it is a republican/democrat thing, because the states in the most trouble are the ones who have been ruled by democrats.
The government is supposed to be the ally of business, but they've become its enemy, deciding instead to throw entitlement coins at citizens to get elected, and tax businesses at punitive levels so they eventually leave the state.
Well, the piper has arrived. It's time to lay off workers in non-essential departments. It's time to CLOSE those departments. It's time to offer incentives to bring more business to the state, and to lower taxes on existing businesses so they can expand/grow (yielding more revenue).
Texas isn't having a problem, because they've done the above, and businesses are coming to the state in droves. In the open market, Texas is winning, because other states have been stupid.
Posted by: Mrs. du Toit at June 26, 2009 10:33 AM (IG1sJ)
What you choose to call greed is what motivates people to take RISKS to start an expand businesses. That is a good thing, Ted.
I wonder why you don't mention the truly HUGE money grab by Democrats in Congress in forcing banks to "lend" money to people they KNEW could never pay it back. That program -- which Republicans tried to stop -- is far, far more directly responsible for this mess than your favorite bogeyman, Wall Street.
If you choose never to take risks, that's fine, Ted, but understand that you probably work for someone who DID. Envy is also greed, Ted.
Posted by: Bill Smith at June 26, 2009 10:42 AM (pAUxf)
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Posted by: Chris at June 26, 2009 10:57 AM (M0246)
It can't be that simple, because New York did exactly that (in direct violation of the Supreme Court's current standing decisions on the matter), and although Amazon is suing New York State over it, they are collecting Sales Tax in the mean time and did not drop their affiliates. Either they regard NY as different from NC (perhaps they have too many affiliates there) or there is something more onerous in the proposed legislation in NC (such as what Opus17 wrote - that they would have to double-collect sales tax).
Posted by: Nobody at June 26, 2009 11:05 AM (CPTIY)
NC is becoming more and more like a Northeastern seaboard state -- probably unsurprising because of the continuing influx of Northerners. (The same is becoming true of New Hampshire and its Massachusetts "settlers" as well.)
Posted by: Kim du Toit at June 26, 2009 11:06 AM (IG1sJ)
NC legislators are nutters. Did you know that they expect residents to claim out of state purchases in order to pay tax on those purchases, even though you already paid tax on them?
Posted by: William Teach at June 26, 2009 11:31 AM (7yTel)
"... we still find the Greedy Hand Of Government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute.
--Thomas Paine (Rights of Man)
Posted by: Lily at June 26, 2009 12:10 PM (gIQ7K)
Posted by: Glenmore at June 26, 2009 12:51 PM (8J8z3)
Posted by: Mina at June 26, 2009 12:51 PM (N0hv7)
What most citizens do not know is every single state has TWO "tax imposing" statutes for this sort of 'excise tax' - one for "sales tax" and the other for "use tax". I believe everyone knows what a "sales tax" is. A "use tax" is the companion/corollary statute. The name "use tax" is misleading and does not equate to where you 'use' something. Sales tax is usually voluntarily collected/remitted by a vendor when selling to the ‘final consumer’. Use tax is supposed to be voluntarily remitted by the purchaser when the seller does not collect (enough) sales tax...IF the sales tax would 'normally apply' to the situation. For example, if you go out of state and purchase something you are going to use in your local area and the following applies (just one example...there are many others): If the sales tax rate you pay out of state is 4% and your local rate is 5% you would get credit for paying the ‘legally imposed 4% sales tax’ to the vendor but owe the 1% difference and should remit that to your local jurisdiction. Internet purchases are almost always a use tax scenario simply because of the misconception of the ‘internet is not taxable’. The federal moratorium on ‘taxing the internet’ ONLY applies to the access charge paid to the ISP.
The reason Amazon and most other internet retailers do not collect and then remit sales tax for most taxing jurisdictions is they do not have "nexus" = "a substantial business presence" (among other things) in a taxing jurisdiction. States, like NC and NY, are attempting (rightly or wrongly) to use whatever means necessary to establish nexus for internet based companies and these statutes are attempting to label the 'click-through associates' as 'agents for the company'. If they pass these laws then the courts will find, in accordance with that SCOTUS definition, that those associates do in fact create "a substantial business presence". This effort may or may not run afoul of the US Constitution's Commerce Clause. That will require these companies collect/remit sales tax and the state won’t have to rely on the good intentions of the purchasers to remit use tax. Please note: most sales/use tax statutes are ‘voluntary’ and I used the word ‘require’ in the previous sentence. Basically, if a business has nexus and wants to sell anything they HAVE to collect/remit sales and use taxes. If they don’t then the taxing jurisdiction may do all sorts of nasty things to them. One of which is sending someone like me to examine their records to establish what the business should have collected/remitted.
Use tax is a confusing little animal even for auditors sometimes. That is slowly getting cleaned up though thanks to a group of states that have signed on to the Streamlined Sales Tax Project (SSTP) and have adopted the SSTP sourcing rules. If you want to bore yourself to death, look up your local (probably state level) sales/use tax information (Departments of Revenue usually) and also the SSTP.
(I audit 'excise taxes' but am not employed by NC.)
NC Sales and Use Tax information
Streamlined Sales Tax information
Posted by: PhyCon at June 26, 2009 12:59 PM (4od5C)
This is not a democrat / republican thing. This is that the state governments are broke because greedy wall street stole our confidence in American commerce. The states are grasping at straws to get enough money to keep police on the streets.
Internet merchants have escaped state sales taxes. North Carolina tried to grab some revenue from in-state internet merchants, so their local Walmarts would not be at so much of a disadvantage. It does not appear to be working.
(my emphasis added to his 'correct' part)
He is correct in the one sentence I bolded and italicized in his 2nd paragraph...his 1st paragraph is a rant for the most part.
'Use tax' is supposed to 'level the playing field' between in-state and out-of-state players inclusive of catalogue sellers and internet sellers. Where he fails being correct in his Wal-Mart sentence is "in-state internet merchants" are already subject to the NC sales tax statute IF the sell to in state customers. If they sell to an out-of-state customer then that state's Use Tax statute will apply to the customer (unless the seller has Nexus in that state, of course
Posted by: PhyCon at June 26, 2009 01:22 PM (4od5C)
Posted by: Donna Chmura at June 26, 2009 01:48 PM (K7hMo)
Good job legislature. I would have been hiring people and creating jobs in your state, now it may be easier and more effective bringing my parents (taxpayers by the way) here.
Posted by: Tom at June 26, 2009 02:23 PM (k7MTU)
Clearly, no meaningful conversation or solution to balance a state's budget or the National budget can be made without getting rid of all the illegal "squatters" who've showed up here in our Nation from where ever in the world they've come from. One of the reasons this state, CA, is soooo far in debt is they're feeding, educating and giving medical care to these millions of illegals.
We cannot seem to take care of returning veterans and their families, but we can feed and nurture the illegal population. Have you ever asked yourself who's making the money and/or power on that deal?
Also, the NC tax deal once again shows the truth of the old adage that the two main character traits of politicians is they are 1. Greedy, and 2. Stupid.
Stan45
Posted by: stan45 at June 26, 2009 03:10 PM (1J6cS)
Posted by: PhyCon at June 26, 2009 04:57 PM (4od5C)
Granted, the Associates Program Agreement probably allows for this kind of shutdown at AMZN's discretion; but part of me wonders why Jeff Bezos didn't do what so many other companies have done -- spend some money on a lobbying firm to come to Raleigh and plead their case.
Please let me know if I missed that; because otherwise it looks to me like Amazon is punishing its NC Associates so that they in turn will punish the legislators at the polls. That's certainly cheaper than spending shareholder $$$ on lobbyists; but "look what they made us do" seems a pretty poor return for all the revenue the AMZN Associates here sent to Bezos & Co.
Posted by: InfoGeek at June 26, 2009 05:48 PM (5Nhu9)
So if an internet retailer were to collect sales tax for all her buyers, not only would she have to write 50 checks (one to each state) but would have to keep track of the sales tax rate for EVERY CITY in the entire U.S. of A. Now imagine that you, like me, are running an internet retail business out of your home, and it's just you. You don't have an accountant or an assistant or even a janitor. Add to that the fact that most people don't even know how to calculate sales tax even with a calculator, and you will see why all these sales-tax-on-internet schemes won't work.
Now, if they were to make sales tax inhere in the SELLER's location, that would be much easier. I'd charge everyone the same sales tax rate and write one check. But that would mean that states could compete for internet businesses on the basis of their sales tax rates, and we wouldn't want THAT, now would we?
Posted by: Wacky Hermit at June 26, 2009 06:51 PM (1OwrP)
Such altruism! Curious the collected cash doesn't go to the local merchants, rather into state coffers.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at June 26, 2009 06:56 PM (JhEpq)
Several years ago, San Franciscans patted themselves on the back for passing a law punishing those eeeeevil banks who charge a buck or two for use of their ATM's by non-bank customers. The morning after the vote, just imagine the sad little looks on their smug f'ing faces as they realized that instead of getting free use of someone else's equipment and labor, they simply were unable to use the ATM at *any* price, because the bank simply refused to provide that service for free. Sounds like NC has a case of the same situation - trying to get something for nothing.
Posted by: baboy at June 26, 2009 10:44 PM (GB1t6)
So if I live in a state with tax rate of 4% and make a purchase in a state with a tax rate of 5%, does my home state owe me the 1% difference? Somehow, I don't think so.
Posted by: Just Sayin' at June 27, 2009 01:39 AM (o2bVb)
Posted by: Anatoli at June 27, 2009 02:20 PM (znAs1)
(They could just give us vouchers for education and we could educate our own children where we choose - and just trim all the propagandizing out of public education and ppl might choose those schools for their voucher system. But we certainly don't need coerced communism through taxation with no choice by voucher of where to send children to school = public education).
Posted by: laura at June 27, 2009 04:03 PM (JFvHi)
Or is NC trying to define Amazon as a North Carolina company because they have people with affilliate accounts there and declaring that because of that Amazon should pay corporate taxes in NC?
They could even redefine those affilliates as employees of Amazon and try to have Amazon pay income tax and social security premiums in NC despite those people not being on the payroll.
I've not read this bill, but if it's not about salestax it's got to be something like that.
Posted by: J.T. Wenting at June 28, 2009 01:15 AM (hrLyN)
Is there some rule somewhere that says every activity must be taxed? Is it too much for politicians to keep their expletive-deleted hands to themselves for a change?
Rope, tree, politician. Some assembly required.
Posted by: Russ at June 28, 2009 04:58 AM (QH1SN)
'Found this on Insty:
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/289027.php
Guys, this is really starting to piss me off. So much so that I'm starting to look for alternatives. As in: moving to another state. The damn "Yellow Dog Democrats" down East will never elect a responsible government in Raleigh.
Note what Mrs. du Toit (of "Nation of Riflemen" fame) has to say about Texas gaining business in the comments. Businesses are leaving Kalifornia in droves. And I expect it to start in NC shortly.
Based on the "Freedom in the 50 States" report, I'm looking at Tennessee, Missouri and Texas. Colorado ain't bad but I'm not sure I want to winter there. Unfortunately I'm afraid most of the cheap land in Texas is gone unless you get up in the Panhandle...
BTW: if you haven't already, read "One Second After". This is not an "If it happens" scenario. It's a "When it happens"....
http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765317583/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1246199976&sr=8-1'
Posted by: Don at June 28, 2009 10:53 AM (dcgqO)
Forget Colorado, we've been Californicated and are headinq quickly down the dumper with Ritter and a Dem controlled legislature.
Posted by: RC at June 30, 2009 01:26 PM (fGQQq)
Posted by: Pablo at June 30, 2009 04:01 PM (yTndK)
Yeah, I know. But my Mom owns land in Colorado. Far enough away from Denver that I can mostly ignore it. I'm thinking of spending the summer at the ranch and winter in Tennessee or Missouri. I'd love to find a place in the Hill Country but I'm not sure it's do-able anymore...
Posted by: Don at June 30, 2009 10:07 PM (C2pDJ)
June 25, 2009
Alleged Moonwalking Pedophile Dies; World Forgets Obama Won't Use The Insurance Plan He Intends to Force Down Our Throats
Pardon me for keeping some perspective.
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Posted by: Bill Smith at June 25, 2009 09:45 PM (pAUxf)
*shiver*
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Posted by: Bill C at June 25, 2009 10:32 PM (ip9xv)
And whatever you may think of Michael Jackson, he did have a big influence on modern music and he does have probably close to a billion fans worldwide.
Posted by: J.T. Wenting at June 26, 2009 01:10 AM (hrLyN)
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at June 26, 2009 12:11 PM (tRKLa)
Posted by: Tyrone at June 26, 2009 08:01 PM (X3RvO)
Other than we know he had boys sleep in his bedroom with him, and that he gave these underaged boys wine, and that he had a stash of gay pr0n which had his and the boys' prints on it. Oh, and there was the $30 mil he paid to get earlier complaints dropped.
I agree, we just don't have enough information to make an assessment. At least CY used the term "alleged."
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at June 27, 2009 07:53 AM (Vcyz0)
Posted by: Dilligaff at June 27, 2009 12:21 PM (0G/S0)
Democrat Donors Shut Down Atlanta Tea Party
Update: The Simons don't care for other groups either, though earlier this year their response was to shut down the mall. (h/t Andrew H.)Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 11:52 AM | Comments (25) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
They say you vote with your dollars. A purchase at Simon Malls is a vote for:
1. Massive contributions to Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Al Franken, MediaMatters, the DNC and a whole host of Democrats and Democrat organizations.
2. Tea Party suppression.
3. Leftist intolerance.
Thanks for spreading the word on this important issue.
Posted by: RightKlik at June 25, 2009 02:14 PM (hWQZJ)
Posted by: megapotamus at June 25, 2009 03:33 PM (zkBnt)
The protest was being held on private property, and the landowner--if the claims are true--was for the Tea Party and even willing to spring for the fireworks. Simon abused an easement to force out the protest.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at June 25, 2009 03:40 PM (gAi9Z)
June 24, 2009
SC Gov Mark Sanford Preps for 2012...
... by burnishing his "foreign affairs" experience.
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If you don't love your spouse or meet someone you love more or have a stronger connection with then divorce them and move on. Granted you're not supposed to divorce in many social Conservatives mind but that's not really realistic. People get married for the wrong reasons, get married too fast, or simply grow apart as the years move on.
It's best if you can find someone you can grow old with but that doesn't always happen.
Its important to either adhere to your professed mores, or not to profess mores you don't think you can adhere to. Nobody like a hypocrite, and that is the problem every time a "conservative" gets caught in some scandal. It doesn't hurt the Liberals because they have no morals, and never really profess to having them to begin with.
The man is human however and who he really has failed is not the GOP, not the state of SC (unless the tryst was paid for with SC funds), nor anyone else but his family. It doesn't make him less capable of a Governor (again hinging on use of taxpayer funds), it doesn't whole sale invalidate his positions.
See that is where we give up too easily. We allow the Liberals to use ad hominem attacks upon conservative candidates, "this guy/gal had an affair so therefore their policies and ideas suck and are completely invalid." and we buy into it along with the moderates.
Conservatives need to get their act together or 2012 will be a "no contest" based merely on "the devil we know rather than the devil we don't".
Posted by: Scott at June 24, 2009 04:12 PM (mqy6N)
Posted by: zhombre at June 24, 2009 05:46 PM (BaaTP)
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Posted by: Larry Sheldon at June 24, 2009 08:23 PM (OmeRL)
Posted by: Mike McDaniel at June 24, 2009 10:57 PM (l4VGz)
See, I can be emotional (what fun!). Of course, being emotional like that steers oneself away from real GOP failings. Ask yourself this: We all know Dem politicians that have done business dealings that have screwed over the working folks they call their 'base.' Yet those Dems (like, say, Barney Frank) rarely-to-never get called out on it. Why is that?
Or, more to the point, why do Republicans and conservatives have media problems?
Posted by: Brad S at June 25, 2009 01:42 PM (X/d4D)
Posted by: JRH at June 25, 2009 03:40 PM (WacVk)
(1.) Pornified culture and grass-is-greenerism;
(2.) Anonymity-by-numbers, which creates an illusion of privacy, preventing the individual from becoming aware of the actual impossibility of long-term privacy in modern society;
(3.) Lack of popular religious devotion in culture which might lead to training in self-control and self-denial;
(4.) Lack of cultural "fences" around contact and behavior which, while itself innocent, sets the stage and creates the opportunity for moral error;
(5.) The failure of a man, in his saner moods, to recognize his own inherent weakness and implement CYA, keep-me-straight, flee-from-sin policies to compensate.
Under item (1.) there is the passing thought of the married man that sex and love and passion could be better than they are, a thought amplified by quivering hardbodies everywhere a man looks, and by pop-culture glorification of unbridled passion which never depicts the inglorious and tragic aftermath.
Under item (2.): In a village, everyone knows everyone's business, and everyone knows his business is known. When tempted, a man does not expect to "get away with it"; he expects it to "get out" and is surprised if it doesn't. But in modernity, we are "all alone in a crowd." The sense that we are alone tricks us into thinking we have privacy for our sins. In reality, the moment someone decides they want to know what we are up to, there's no place to hide.
Under item (3.): Is anyone under the illusion that Sanford had developed in himself the kind of mind that looks for opportunities to share in the suffering of Christ? Some call a man who fasts out of solidarity with the hungry a fool; but if Sanford's marriage is a good one, he's the fool to jump ship; and if it's a bad one, he needs to learn to carry his cross daily and thank God that God has counted him worthy to suffer in that way. Such notions are foreign to the modern mind, but then our ancestors were wiser than we.
Under item (4.): What on earth was a man doing, having any friendly meeting with a woman not his wife, when his wife was not present? What on earth was a man doing, corresponding with any woman not his wife, without his wife's input and approval in each note? In a more "Victorian" or "Puritan" culture, we'd be happier, for of course those cultures looked askance at such technically innocent interactions: They knew human nature better than we, and knew that sin doesn't come where the opportunity is absent.
Under item (5.): Every man has his "price." I do, you do. You will betray all who love you, and your deepest convictions, if you are pushed to your breaking point of frustration (or even to a level of moderate discontent) in the world of good and licit things, and then suddenly offered a strongly-desired, perfectly-fitting, better-than-you-had-ever-hoped-for, illicit thing.
The trick is to know this, and to implement unvarying policies that ensure that (a.) you aren't likely to encounter your "price," (b.) if you ever meet "your price" you run the other way immediately and don't have opportunities for a second glance at the merchandise, and (c.) there are several someones who'll be nearby, who'll observe any false move you make, and who'll hold you accountable for it.
This is the truth: The truth about men, known to all who bother to know it, and unchanged since before the authoring of Proverbs 2:11-19.
Posted by: R.C. at June 25, 2009 06:48 PM (udPMb)
Anti-Gun Harold Koh Headed for Confirmation Vote
From Foreign Policy:
Koh is a self-described "trans-nationalist" radical who believes in global gun control.
A cloture vote on the nomination of Harold Koh will be held this morning at 11 a.m. ET, The Cable has learned. Koh, the dean of Yale Law School, was tapped to become the State Department's legal advisor nearly four months ago, but has faced criticism from conservatives for an alleged "transnational" approach to the law. According to reporter Dave Wiegel of the Washington Independent, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said through a spokesman that he is confident he has the 60 votes needed to overcome conservative opposition to Koh's nomination.
Given President Obama's track record of participating in schemes to undermine Second Amendment scholarship, and his disdain for those "bitter clingers" who believe in the Constitution, it is unsurprising that Koh would be nominated to the position at the State Department. What is surprising is that Senators that desire to retain their seats would consider confirming such a radical so hostile to basic Constitutional rights. Call your Senator this morning and express your disdain, while you still have a chance.
Koh's positions treat our constitutional law as if it were a mere local ordinance on the greater world stage. This is of particular concern to gun owners at a time when the U.S. Congress is under pressure from President Obama to ratify an international gun control treaty with countries in the western hemisphere. That treaty, known by its Spanish acronym CIFTA, would likely serve as a forerunner to a more extensive United Nations initiative, the "Program of Action to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in all its Aspects." The Bush administration, under the leadership of UN Ambassador John Bolton, rejected the small arms treaty. Bolton plainly told the world that the United States will not accept a gun control document that violates our Constitutional right to bear arms. Harold Koh commented that Bolton was being "needlessly provocative." In a paper entitled "A world drowning in guns," Koh maintains that a civil society cannot exist with broad gun ownership: "Guns kill civil society," he said.
Posted by: Confederate Yankee at 10:22 AM | Comments (31) | Add Comment | Trackbacks (Suck)
Posted by: 1903A3 at June 24, 2009 12:37 PM (E8ZSe)
So I presume what he means is that the US has never had a civil society?
Beyond the vague hopefulness of a "world without guns," gun banners never actually explain why they demand a disarmed populace. They never say what, precisely, makes them fear their fellow citizens so much.
The Hutus slaughtered 800,000 Tutsis in 100 days with mostly clubs and machetes, putting them at the top of the 20th Century genocidal stakes for sheer efficiency. Nobody, not the Khmer Rouge, not the ChiComs, not the Soviets, not even the Nazis with their vauted Teutonic organization came anywhere near that rate of mass murder achieved by a gaggle of nearly neolithic tribesmen without firearms.
So again, what exactly makes bedwetters like Koh so hysterically adamant that I and citizens like me are such a grave threat to life on Earth?
Posted by: Steve Skubinna at June 24, 2009 02:18 PM (Vcyz0)
Morons most of them.
Posted by: BILL at June 24, 2009 03:25 PM (Pj1nl)
Posted by: bill at June 24, 2009 03:29 PM (Pj1nl)
Posted by: Zelsdorf Ragshaft III at June 24, 2009 07:18 PM (iu8vn)
Posted by: Scott at June 25, 2009 10:44 AM (0snxn)
Posted by: megapotamus at June 25, 2009 03:39 PM (zkBnt)
Look at Iran. If only 2 in 10 were armed with a rifle or hand gun, they would be free by now. Are we going to let them do the same to us here in the US???? Will it take Obamathugs killing some of us to get us moving?
Sadly most likely so.
Posted by: Marc Boyd at June 25, 2009 05:12 PM (Zoziv)
I wish that were so, but all it takes a few more Sotomayor's and Ginsbergs to rewrite the Constitution. Little appears to protect us against a Court willing to define law however they wish.
Posted by: iconoclast at June 26, 2009 01:44 AM (O8ebz)
Hey, I'm ALL FOR eradicating illicit trade in firearms. There's no place in civil society for illegal trade in firearms. But "international bodies" are morons: If they tried to eradicate rape "in all its aspects," they'd wind up outlawing sex!
Posted by: DoorHold at June 28, 2009 02:09 PM (M7V2r)
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