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THE MORNING RANT: Ron DeSantis Separates Himself from Legacy GOP with Attack on “Corporatism”
, I am trying to shame companies that give capitalism a bad name, because they actually empower the enemies of economic freedom.
Some of the topics I’ve covered include:
Beverage/snack companies are dependent on SNAP benefits (food stamps) for more than 20% of their revenue. Along with grocery stores, they lobbied furiously against changes to eligible SNAP products, since they are so reliant on taxpayer money being redistributed to them through the SNAP program. (“PepsiCo [Frito Lay] Snack Sales Decline as SNAP Restrictions Kick In” - 8/07/2026)
The “EV Transition” was largely an effort by various levels of government to redistribute wealth to EV manufacturers. I have written many articles documenting the incentives, mandates, federal rebates, regulatory credits, etc. that favored Rivian, Tesla, and other EV manufacturers at the expense of taxpayers not even purchasing those products.
“Pro-business” governors like Brian Kemp of Georgia flushed billions of taxpayer dollars into failed or failing EV-related ventures. These included $2 billion to Hyundai to build an EV assembly plant, $1.5 billion to Rivian for a plant that was never built, and $300 million to SK for a battery manufacturing plant that could not support the jobs it promised. The government redistribution of wealth from working people to favored corporations is neither capitalism nor free market economics. I prefer to call it venture communism.
Regarding data centers, one reason I believe there is such public opposition is that the public doesn’t trust elected officials not to provide data centers with taxpayer-subsidized utilities and tax abatements. I absolutely support data center construction so long as there is no crony capitalism involved, but it is understandable that voters with empty wallets are skeptical, especially since so many early data center proposals demanded taxpayer subsidization.
The problem with corporate behavior today isn’t just the crony capitalism, it’s also the morally bankrupt ethos that has become mainstream in corporations.
Prominently, this includes the embrace of what is effectively chattel labor. It can be in the form of foreign, low-paid, H-1B labor who can’t otherwise compete in the U.S. job market, or it may be subcontractors using off-the-books, illegal aliens as a source of untaxed and unregulated labor. I have documented multiple examples where subcontracted illegal laborers are living in slave-like conditions in the United States. Corporate America just winks at these abuses, then pawns off the cost of healthcare and other social services to taxpayers.
Even if not illegal, there are too many examples of executives looting their companies by taking short-term actions that enrich themselves but harm the company’s employees and shareholders. As an example, in an October 2025 piece titled “Unhelpful in the Battle Against Socialism’s Growing Appeal: Sherwin Williams Eliminates Employees’ 401(k) Match Amidst Stock Buybacks and Increased CEO Compensation,” I documented how Sherwin Williams:
• Eliminated the company’s 401k matching program, “conserving” $165 million of cash.
• At the same time, it increased the CEO’s compensation to $12.9 million, a 28% increase. • This was also while it flushed away $892 million of its cash on stock buybacks, to prop up the stock price upon which executive bonuses are based. This was not illegal, but it was despicable. There are so many more examples. Be it Panera, or MGM, or other corporations, I keep pointing out that a toxic business school strategy has taken hold in which these practices are employed: • Customers are “revenue-mined” with new and outrageous charges that produce a short-term boost in sales. • Headcount and customer service are slashed to reduce labor expense, giving a short-term boost to operating profit. • Cheapening their product with reductions in quality and/or size, producing a short-term boost in gross profit. These actions drive away customers and do not create wealth. Rather, they are the actions of corporate climbers who made it to the C-suites and are now extracting the wealth that others created. As I wrote in a piece titled “’Financialization of All the Things’ is Parasitism, not Capitalism”:In my opinion, the “financialization-of-all-the-things” is a form of parasitism that does not create wealth, rather it serves to extract the accumulated wealth from entities where wealth has previously been created. Those engaging in “financialism” are the corporate world’s version of tapeworms and ticks.It’s also despicable when large corporations engage in unethical behavior to harm small businesses. In a recent piece that documented how counterfeit goods are a core product of Amazon’s business model, I wrote, “When a major corporation winks at its platform being used for the counterfeit sale of legitimate small businesses’ products, there is not a ‘magic hand’ of supply and demand at work. Rather, it is a form of theft from the legitimate small businesses.” Thank you, Ron DeSantis. As pro-free enterprise patriots fighting the siren song of socialism, it is imperative that the conservative movement tackles the cancer of corporatism and unethical corporate behavior.
He’s right… @BuckThrockmort has been an excellent chronicler of the extent to which corporate America has pursued strategies that, while legal, are gross and fundamentally unAmerican.
— George MF Washington (@GMFWashington) November 9, 2026
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 13, 2026 11:01 AM (OTgAC)
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But I think a big part of that is, what they’re comparing is not free enterprise versus socialism. What they’re comparing is how government gets involved in business, and you have crony capitalism.”
This is exactly how the Democrats can run on issues they cause like Bidenflation
This is exactly how the Democrats can run on issues they cause like Bidenflation
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:01 AM (sKqQm)
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The Others have been summoned.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 13, 2026 11:02 AM (OTgAC)
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Absolutely not.
No
Never Desimp
His surrogates have done as much to screw over Trump as and GOPe or dem.
And he has done nothing to curb them.
Fuck him in particular.
No
Never Desimp
His surrogates have done as much to screw over Trump as and GOPe or dem.
And he has done nothing to curb them.
Fuck him in particular.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:02 AM (PB58D)
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Great write-up, Buck. I am also a big fan of The Meatball (as DJT called him). And also a huge opponent of crony capitalism.
Posted by: Doof at November 13, 2026 11:04 AM (kuZER)
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In my opinion, the “financialization-of-all-the-things” is a form of parasitism that does not create wealth, rather it serves to extract the accumulated wealth from entities where wealth has previously been created. Those engaging in “financialism” are the corporate world’s version of tapeworms and ticks.
I can see how investing in stock to see a company grow or investing in stock to get dividends are good for the economy overall - and this is how stocks originated, shares of companies that you profited from if they profited.
But I do have a difficult time seeing how more complex financial instruments help the economy as a whole. Perhaps some one could make the argument for them?
I can see how investing in stock to see a company grow or investing in stock to get dividends are good for the economy overall - and this is how stocks originated, shares of companies that you profited from if they profited.
But I do have a difficult time seeing how more complex financial instruments help the economy as a whole. Perhaps some one could make the argument for them?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)
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> The “EV Transition” was largely an effort by various levels of government to redistribute wealth to EV manufacturers.
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I've posited this several times; "It was a mandate. Only partially successful, but a mandate nonetheless. Because a mobile society is difficult to subjugate."
There was a reason EV's have limited range and the charging infrastructure is non-existent.
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I've posited this several times; "It was a mandate. Only partially successful, but a mandate nonetheless. Because a mobile society is difficult to subjugate."
There was a reason EV's have limited range and the charging infrastructure is non-existent.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 13, 2026 11:05 AM (RORbl)
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I'm slowly becoming only DeSantis, so this will be an interesting 2 years, since no one coming out of this election is actually fighting to keep populism and MAGA alive except DeSantis.
Every R Senator rolled over for Thune. Every R made excuses that we weren't nice enough to illegals. Vance took himself out. Pence is trying to get back in. And Rubio has been silent...maybe b/c he realizes silence is golden when your adversaries are knifing themselves.
Every R Senator rolled over for Thune. Every R made excuses that we weren't nice enough to illegals. Vance took himself out. Pence is trying to get back in. And Rubio has been silent...maybe b/c he realizes silence is golden when your adversaries are knifing themselves.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:06 AM (Gb7+b)
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Willowed:
Goto baraktu nicktoe
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 10:44 AM (PB58D)
What is this lame bullshit???!!!!11111!!!
Goto baraktu nicktoe
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 10:44 AM (PB58D)
What is this lame bullshit???!!!!11111!!!
Posted by: Klaatu barada nikto at November 13, 2026 11:06 AM (YSUhf)
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Companies stopped being about the products they make long ago.
Now a company is a stock price and the core business is manipulating the stock price to meet board targets.
Now a company is a stock price and the core business is manipulating the stock price to meet board targets.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:06 AM (PB58D)
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Lemme tell you about the heartland of America. In Mississippi after Trump rally there, the Senate candidate instead of remaining and campaigning like crazy...hopped on AF1 for a ride. Must be a nice! MUST.BE.NICE. And her response to "price of beef keeps going up" ? Buy another protein! And you wonder why Trump voters stayed home. We should thank the Dems for helping us get rid of these clowns!!
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:07 AM (AKptf)
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First good argument against DeSantis; Buck Throckmorton, who has been consistently wrong about everything the last two years, just said something good about him.
Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 13, 2026 11:07 AM (RAAVu)
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DeSantis is waiting to see what Marco will do.
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:07 AM (AKptf)
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Great piece, Buck.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 13, 2026 11:07 AM (RDiUV)
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If the globe is corrupt, a globalist corporation will be corrupt.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 13, 2026 11:07 AM (bFq8h)
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Corporatism is the natural outcome of socialism.
Pure socialism just gets millions killed because it generates no value and just consumes whatever the society it is ruling had generated before.
Corporatism though allows some economic growth but with the corporate and government elites controlling it so they get rich and creative destruction never happens.
This is the system Mussolini created after he broke with the international socialists because pragmatically it sort of works. This is the path Gorby was going down but started too late, and the path Deng in China implemented when he came to power
Pure socialism just gets millions killed because it generates no value and just consumes whatever the society it is ruling had generated before.
Corporatism though allows some economic growth but with the corporate and government elites controlling it so they get rich and creative destruction never happens.
This is the system Mussolini created after he broke with the international socialists because pragmatically it sort of works. This is the path Gorby was going down but started too late, and the path Deng in China implemented when he came to power
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:08 AM (sKqQm)
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DeSantis has been the best governor in living memory. Of course he will likely be running against Rubio who has been the best SoS, likely in the whole of America's history.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:09 AM (sKqQm)
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So what kind of sweet tax arrangement did Disney get in the state whose governor is named Ron DeSantis?
Posted by: I gotta ask at November 13, 2026 11:09 AM (2Ez/1)
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Here is something else, the new chief of staff :
"Katie Miller
@KatieMiller
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14h
A DOZEN LOBBYISTS TOLD POLITICO:
“He eschews relationship-based favors. He doesn’t sway easily on issues. He’s ideologically driven and fiercely loyal to President Donald Trump.
“That makes his elevation to chief of staff difficult for lobbyists seeking to influence the administration in its last two years, a dozen GOP lobbyists told POLITICO.”
What a change from Wiles....
"Katie Miller
@KatieMiller
·
14h
A DOZEN LOBBYISTS TOLD POLITICO:
“He eschews relationship-based favors. He doesn’t sway easily on issues. He’s ideologically driven and fiercely loyal to President Donald Trump.
“That makes his elevation to chief of staff difficult for lobbyists seeking to influence the administration in its last two years, a dozen GOP lobbyists told POLITICO.”
What a change from Wiles....
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:10 AM (AKptf)
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Rubio who has been the best SoS, likely in the whole of America's history.
Posted by: 18-1
William Seward and George Schulz would like a word.
Posted by: 18-1
William Seward and George Schulz would like a word.
Posted by: Bulg at November 13, 2026 11:11 AM (77rzZ)
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I know I'm racing way ahead of the topic, but:
Damn, now I'm going to have to choose between him and Rubio for 2028? (I think Rubio has the better chance against AOC or Ossoff or whoever it turns out to be.)
I know I'm racing way ahead of the topic, but:
Damn, now I'm going to have to choose between him and Rubio for 2028? (I think Rubio has the better chance against AOC or Ossoff or whoever it turns out to be.)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:11 AM (XJ22o)
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So all the hit pieces on Miller? Thank K-Street !
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (AKptf)
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The SNAP thing drives me nuts. I had this conversation not long ago with a LIV:
LIV: Can you believe the government is trying to stop poor people from buying food?
Me: You mean reserving food assistance to actual nutritious food?
LIV: But they deserve goodies too!
Me: Then they can buy their hohos and doritos with their money just like I have to. Also this is why "the poor" are mostly fat. Make them cook and earn money for goodies.
LIV: That's not fair!
LIV: Can you believe the government is trying to stop poor people from buying food?
Me: You mean reserving food assistance to actual nutritious food?
LIV: But they deserve goodies too!
Me: Then they can buy their hohos and doritos with their money just like I have to. Also this is why "the poor" are mostly fat. Make them cook and earn money for goodies.
LIV: That's not fair!
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (sKqQm)
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DeSantis is waiting to see what Marco will do.
Posted by: runner
As in: Ron is waiting for Marco to announce so that he can also enter the race and send out Pedro, Cardillo, and the rest of the gator crew to attack Marco relentlessly even after Ron drops out and Marco is trying to win the general
Posted by: runner
As in: Ron is waiting for Marco to announce so that he can also enter the race and send out Pedro, Cardillo, and the rest of the gator crew to attack Marco relentlessly even after Ron drops out and Marco is trying to win the general
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (PB58D)
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Again, it wasn't messaging or affordability that did the GOP in, it was the fact that the donks have taken advantage of our bullsh*t elections systems processes, loose registration criteria, non-existent chain of custody, early voting, extended voting,etc and registered millions upon millions of voters/ballots.
A literal anti-christ got 5.2m votes in Texas. Texas?
Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
A literal anti-christ got 5.2m votes in Texas. Texas?
Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)
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So what kind of sweet tax arrangement did Disney get in the state whose governor is named Ron DeSantis?
Posted by: I gotta ask at November 13, 2026 11:09 AM (2Ez/1)
The kind that ensured the citizens of Florida reaped the benefits in employment wages and property value increases and not the kind that just ensured donor $$ to politicians.
Posted by: I gotta ask at November 13, 2026 11:09 AM (2Ez/1)
The kind that ensured the citizens of Florida reaped the benefits in employment wages and property value increases and not the kind that just ensured donor $$ to politicians.
Posted by: Boswell at November 13, 2026 11:13 AM (j10i6)
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Oh wow I made the sidebar.
WOOT WOOT
Time to brake out the val-u-rite
And spy ladies remember that means tonight you'll have to come to my house because that stuff hits you hard...
WOOT WOOT
Time to brake out the val-u-rite
And spy ladies remember that means tonight you'll have to come to my house because that stuff hits you hard...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:13 AM (sKqQm)
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Stock buybacks should be illegal. It's nothing more than artificially boosting the stock price while doing absolutely nothing to improve the fundamentals of the company's operation.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 13, 2026 11:13 AM (4Je4D)
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"Can you believe the government is trying to stop poor people from buying food?"
My Section 8 neighbors live on DoorDash. I sure as hell can't afford that luxury.
My Section 8 neighbors live on DoorDash. I sure as hell can't afford that luxury.
Posted by: gp at November 13, 2026 11:14 AM (Jr5Lq)
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Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)
Read my book, comrade.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)
Read my book, comrade.
Posted by: J. Stalin at November 13, 2026 11:14 AM (4Je4D)
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Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
I am still disappointed that some purple area in a red state didn't see a silly last minute ballot drop putting their candidates over the edge and claiming they were legit found votes.
A few cases of this and you'd have the Dems pushing for their own SAVE act...
I am still disappointed that some purple area in a red state didn't see a silly last minute ballot drop putting their candidates over the edge and claiming they were legit found votes.
A few cases of this and you'd have the Dems pushing for their own SAVE act...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:14 AM (sKqQm)
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Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)
That is always the game of elections...from machine politics of the 19th century to now...
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)
That is always the game of elections...from machine politics of the 19th century to now...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:14 AM (Gb7+b)
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Stock buybacks should be illegal. It's nothing more than artificially boosting the stock price while doing absolutely nothing to improve the fundamentals of the company's operation.
==
what about Bond buyback by the US government ???
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what about Bond buyback by the US government ???
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:15 AM (AKptf)
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what's ron said on h1bs?
Posted by: nckate at November 13, 2026 11:15 AM (enNUy)
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Can you believe the government is trying to stop poor people from buying food?"
My Section 8 neighbors live on DoorDash. I sure as hell can't afford that luxury.
See on multiple forums:
Some guy: Hey those people getting food assistance cuts...what is their citizenship status?
Lefties: Why does that matter?
My Section 8 neighbors live on DoorDash. I sure as hell can't afford that luxury.
See on multiple forums:
Some guy: Hey those people getting food assistance cuts...what is their citizenship status?
Lefties: Why does that matter?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:15 AM (sKqQm)
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It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2026 11:16 AM (YdHVy)
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Where my EBT card at?
Posted by: La'Shondra at November 13, 2026 11:16 AM (2Ez/1)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 13, 2026 11:16 AM (eRlcH)
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34 what's ron said on h1bs?
Posted by: nckate at November 13, 2026 11:15 AM (enNUy)
He disallowed their use at Florida colleges and universities (although grandfathered those already here, like Trump's policies did), so I'd say he's pretty against them by action...
Posted by: nckate at November 13, 2026 11:15 AM (enNUy)
He disallowed their use at Florida colleges and universities (although grandfathered those already here, like Trump's policies did), so I'd say he's pretty against them by action...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:17 AM (Gb7+b)
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Facism is where government runs/controls private businesses. So when private businesses control government ... venture communism?
But it is not just businesses that have lobbyists. China has lobbyists AND honeypot spies and Chinese (CCP) students spying and controlling things.
And "financialism" is how many middle class workers have gained most of their wealth. The passive bid in the stock market keeps floating valuations higher ... one can never lose.
Of course when the Great Depression hit, it took stocks 25 years to get back to the highs of 1929. But we got rid of the gold standard so now we can QE to infinity, because BigGov is just that smart. (or maybe not, $40T debt ... and we though Bush's $6T was outrageous).
But it is not just businesses that have lobbyists. China has lobbyists AND honeypot spies and Chinese (CCP) students spying and controlling things.
And "financialism" is how many middle class workers have gained most of their wealth. The passive bid in the stock market keeps floating valuations higher ... one can never lose.
Of course when the Great Depression hit, it took stocks 25 years to get back to the highs of 1929. But we got rid of the gold standard so now we can QE to infinity, because BigGov is just that smart. (or maybe not, $40T debt ... and we though Bush's $6T was outrageous).
Posted by: illiniwek at November 13, 2026 11:18 AM (vbXSk)
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Cicero don't get the opposition to stock buybacks. It's the opposite of actions that are dilutive. Both things affect shareholders. I think the whole question is situation-dependent, and buybacks only make sense in certain circumstances. But how is (mildly) reducing float and boosting existing shareholder's stake (in effect) bad?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2026 11:18 AM (U/Byj)
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SNAP for a single person in NH is about $300. In MA about $400.
The NH amount is about how much I spend per person per month for my household with of course my own money which makes sense
But...I do also often see people in the grocery stores pull out multiple EBT cards.
The NH amount is about how much I spend per person per month for my household with of course my own money which makes sense
But...I do also often see people in the grocery stores pull out multiple EBT cards.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:19 AM (sKqQm)
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@32
>>That is always the game of elections...from machine politics of the 19th century to now.
Sure, but now the donks have been able to mobilize presidential levels of voting for mid-term and non-presidential elections.
The GOP has no infrastructure or muscle to match what the donks are doing now.
They were able to get literal anti-christs, islamosupremiscts, nazi lovers and jew haters elected, with relative ease.
Not good.
>>That is always the game of elections...from machine politics of the 19th century to now.
Sure, but now the donks have been able to mobilize presidential levels of voting for mid-term and non-presidential elections.
The GOP has no infrastructure or muscle to match what the donks are doing now.
They were able to get literal anti-christs, islamosupremiscts, nazi lovers and jew haters elected, with relative ease.
Not good.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:19 AM (XV/Pl)
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Quick read I seem to agree with DeSantis
Everything for the state, nothing against the state is Fascism
Everything for the state, nothing against the state is Fascism
Posted by: Skip at November 13, 2026 11:20 AM (YdHVy)
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So what kind of sweet tax arrangement did Disney get in the state whose governor is named Ron DeSantis?
Disney literally owned its own Florida county. It went by the modest moniker the Reedy Creek Improvement District. It meant that Disney wasn't subject to all of the inspection and approval processes that normal businesses have to endure. It was a perk worth billions.
Until that idiot Bob Iger pissed it away by getting stupidly political with DeSantis.
Disney literally owned its own Florida county. It went by the modest moniker the Reedy Creek Improvement District. It meant that Disney wasn't subject to all of the inspection and approval processes that normal businesses have to endure. It was a perk worth billions.
Until that idiot Bob Iger pissed it away by getting stupidly political with DeSantis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 13, 2026 11:20 AM (4Je4D)
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They were able to get literal anti-christs, islamosupremiscts, nazi lovers and jew haters elected, with relative ease.
The candidate that said she wanted to send Republicans to death camps didn't really run a campaign and somehow still won
The candidate that said she wanted to send Republicans to death camps didn't really run a campaign and somehow still won
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:20 AM (sKqQm)
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43 @32
>>That is always the game of elections...from machine politics of the 19th century to now.
Sure, but now the donks have been able to mobilize presidential levels of voting for mid-term and non-presidential elections.
The GOP has no infrastructure or muscle to match what the donks are doing now.
They were able to get literal anti-christs, islamosupremiscts, nazi lovers and jew haters elected, with relative ease.
Not good.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:19 AM (XV/Pl)
Nope, it's not good - we have 2 years to either change the game (unlikely now) or adapt to the new game...
>>That is always the game of elections...from machine politics of the 19th century to now.
Sure, but now the donks have been able to mobilize presidential levels of voting for mid-term and non-presidential elections.
The GOP has no infrastructure or muscle to match what the donks are doing now.
They were able to get literal anti-christs, islamosupremiscts, nazi lovers and jew haters elected, with relative ease.
Not good.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:19 AM (XV/Pl)
Nope, it's not good - we have 2 years to either change the game (unlikely now) or adapt to the new game...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:21 AM (Gb7+b)
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Except I think DeSantis is wrong.
I don't think these young socialists know any more about "crony capitalism" or "corporatism" than they do about socialism. In fact, I'm not sure they'd recognize those terms. Their buzz-words are "corporate greed" and even, simply "the corporations." That's all you need in order to be evil.
They don't know squat about Sherwin-Williams's 401k cancellation; they know that Elon is a trillionaire, which is enough to call for his arrest or worse.
It's true, it all needs reform, but I don't think this is what's griping the young socialists. They simply don't understand that capitalism is NOT a zero-sum game and they don't like those CEOs and corporations being so rich. Nationalize them, seize the CEOs' wealth, and voila! The windmill will be finished in no time.
Except I think DeSantis is wrong.
I don't think these young socialists know any more about "crony capitalism" or "corporatism" than they do about socialism. In fact, I'm not sure they'd recognize those terms. Their buzz-words are "corporate greed" and even, simply "the corporations." That's all you need in order to be evil.
They don't know squat about Sherwin-Williams's 401k cancellation; they know that Elon is a trillionaire, which is enough to call for his arrest or worse.
It's true, it all needs reform, but I don't think this is what's griping the young socialists. They simply don't understand that capitalism is NOT a zero-sum game and they don't like those CEOs and corporations being so rich. Nationalize them, seize the CEOs' wealth, and voila! The windmill will be finished in no time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:21 AM (XJ22o)
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I can see how investing in stock to see a company grow or investing in stock to get dividends are good for the economy overall - and this is how stocks originated, shares of companies that you profited from if they profited.
But I do have a difficult time seeing how more complex financial instruments help the economy as a whole. Perhaps some one could make the argument for them?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)
The argument for futures/forwards is straightforward, it gives commodity producers the ability to lock in prices helping their long-term planning and equipment investment. Or in international exchange to sell at known values in domestic currencies.
Most other markets are not large enough to be very impactful. The main issue that tends to emerge from the finance sector is overleveraging during periods of relative stability.
Financialization is a misleading term here since it seems to refer to operational decisions, not making businesses or their debt tradeable.
I can see how investing in stock to see a company grow or investing in stock to get dividends are good for the economy overall - and this is how stocks originated, shares of companies that you profited from if they profited.
But I do have a difficult time seeing how more complex financial instruments help the economy as a whole. Perhaps some one could make the argument for them?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)
The argument for futures/forwards is straightforward, it gives commodity producers the ability to lock in prices helping their long-term planning and equipment investment. Or in international exchange to sell at known values in domestic currencies.
Most other markets are not large enough to be very impactful. The main issue that tends to emerge from the finance sector is overleveraging during periods of relative stability.
Financialization is a misleading term here since it seems to refer to operational decisions, not making businesses or their debt tradeable.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 13, 2026 11:21 AM (okun6)
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I don't know what CAT has against DeSantis. He's opposed Trump at times. Who here hasn't? Are we now for weaker immigration enforcement because Trump said something last Wednesday that perhaps they went too far? Is Trump now a cuck and weakling? A TACO as the astroturf protests claim? Hell, no.
If anything, the fact that DeSantis doesn't always agree with Trump and comes up with arguments to justify his position is a strength, not a weakness. Is he 100% perfect? Hell, no, but he is by far one of the best potential candidates in 2028.
If anything, the fact that DeSantis doesn't always agree with Trump and comes up with arguments to justify his position is a strength, not a weakness. Is he 100% perfect? Hell, no, but he is by far one of the best potential candidates in 2028.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (P9Ea3)
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Vance's adoption of Tucker worries me. That shows poor judgement to me.
His calling out the war as slowly Biden-inflation recovery doesn't bother me, because people could see prices increase, and that's why they threw the Democrats out in '24. And that helped in the Republicans defeat with smooth brains who can't think of secondary effects.
So, I'd vote for Rubio or DeSantis before him.
Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Vance's adoption of Tucker worries me. That shows poor judgement to me.
His calling out the war as slowly Biden-inflation recovery doesn't bother me, because people could see prices increase, and that's why they threw the Democrats out in '24. And that helped in the Republicans defeat with smooth brains who can't think of secondary effects.
So, I'd vote for Rubio or DeSantis before him.
Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
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Iowahawk advises zoomers that when life hands you lemons, make lemonade.
David Burge
@iowahawkblog
Instead of griping about how unfair it is that Boomers have all the money, why don't you ungrateful punks put down the avocado toast, turn off you computer game, get off your lazy Zoomer asses, and come up with Facebook or texting scam to steal it from them?
David Burge
@iowahawkblog
Instead of griping about how unfair it is that Boomers have all the money, why don't you ungrateful punks put down the avocado toast, turn off you computer game, get off your lazy Zoomer asses, and come up with Facebook or texting scam to steal it from them?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (ndZc7)
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25 Again, it wasn't messaging or affordability that did the GOP in, it was the fact that the donks have taken advantage of our bullsh*t elections systems processes, loose registration criteria, non-existent chain of custody, early voting, extended voting,etc and registered millions upon millions of voters/ballots.
A literal anti-christ got 5.2m votes in Texas. Texas?
Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)
Maybe. Or it might just prove you can't beat something with nothing, which is what the GOP has on offer. What is the GOP's message?
We complain daily about how useless the GOP is, how it delivers nothing. Now imagine someone who doesn't necessarily share any of our political assumptions or beliefs: you think they have'n't also noticed the GOP has nothing to offer them?
A literal anti-christ got 5.2m votes in Texas. Texas?
Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)
Maybe. Or it might just prove you can't beat something with nothing, which is what the GOP has on offer. What is the GOP's message?
We complain daily about how useless the GOP is, how it delivers nothing. Now imagine someone who doesn't necessarily share any of our political assumptions or beliefs: you think they have'n't also noticed the GOP has nothing to offer them?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (yG4gY)
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There's nothing more dishonest than any corporate meeting on any level.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 13, 2026 11:23 AM (g8Ew8)
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Instead of griping about how unfair it is that Boomers have all the money, why don't you ungrateful punks put down the avocado toast, turn off you computer game, get off your lazy Zoomer asses, and come up with Facebook or texting scam to steal it from them?
Sorry sir, but I am already doing the needful
Sorry sir, but I am already doing the needful
Posted by: "Bob" from "Cleveland" at November 13, 2026 11:23 AM (sKqQm)
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Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake
Also the fact that they're both from Florida.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake
Also the fact that they're both from Florida.
Posted by: Bulg at November 13, 2026 11:24 AM (77rzZ)
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It's not material really, but attributing the appeal of socialism amongst the youngins' to GOP corporatism is more than a stretch. The young and stupid have always had a natural tendency to worry about "fairness" and such squishy concepts.
"Education", and the entire idiot marinade in which the populace soaks (media, pop culture, everything) clearly is the major factor.
And as Buck's discussion makes clear, though I don't think he made this point, there's no particular GOP specialty with corporatism. If anything it's far worse with the Dems, who actually do approach a fascist model (using the word accurately and in historical context).
So "corporatism" taints both parties, more so the Dems. And then there's the issue of defining where corporatism starts and a representative government being responsive ends.
"Education", and the entire idiot marinade in which the populace soaks (media, pop culture, everything) clearly is the major factor.
And as Buck's discussion makes clear, though I don't think he made this point, there's no particular GOP specialty with corporatism. If anything it's far worse with the Dems, who actually do approach a fascist model (using the word accurately and in historical context).
So "corporatism" taints both parties, more so the Dems. And then there's the issue of defining where corporatism starts and a representative government being responsive ends.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2026 11:24 AM (U/Byj)
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We complain daily about how useless the GOP is, how it delivers nothing. Now imagine someone who doesn't necessarily share any of our political assumptions or beliefs: you think they have'n't also noticed the GOP has nothing to offer them?
When Dems win elections their activists and voters get PAID and Republicans get harmed.
When Republicans win Republican voters get harmed marginally less.
Its not a winning formula.
We complain daily about how useless the GOP is, how it delivers nothing. Now imagine someone who doesn't necessarily share any of our political assumptions or beliefs: you think they have'n't also noticed the GOP has nothing to offer them?
When Dems win elections their activists and voters get PAID and Republicans get harmed.
When Republicans win Republican voters get harmed marginally less.
Its not a winning formula.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:24 AM (sKqQm)
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Adding to the cost of food skyrocketing--thanks to free govt money like EBT and covid bucks--is that now stores like Wal Mart and Kroger are building out pricing systems that will change the price on a product you are standing in front of with info they glean from your phone app. https://tinyurl.com/2jbvwkje
Posted by: Random PJ at November 13, 2026 11:24 AM (+jscL)
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I don't get the DeSantis hate that exists in some quarters, but I will say... Some people in Florida said Pam Bondi was going to be a problem. People in Florida said Susie Wiles was a problem. Sometimes the people that know you best are the ones living next door.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 13, 2026 11:25 AM (QaH55)
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NEW: Katie Couric asks Rachel Maddow if Stephen Miller is "SATAN'S GRANDBABY"
Couric: "He's like Dr. Evil!"
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You Know, I Have One Simple Request, And That Is To Have Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Attached To Their Heads In The Rio Grande!
Couric: "He's like Dr. Evil!"
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You Know, I Have One Simple Request, And That Is To Have Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Attached To Their Heads In The Rio Grande!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:25 AM (ndZc7)
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It is better to become maliciously compliant....the donks want to attack space X under the auspices of public beach access?
Fine start fining Hollywood for filming.
Fine start fining Hollywood for filming.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:25 AM (Int1s)
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56 Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake
Also the fact that they're both from Florida.
Posted by: Bulg at November 13, 2026 11:24 AM (77rzZ)
Rubio could move b/c he's in DC right now...he could become a DC resident...
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake
Also the fact that they're both from Florida.
Posted by: Bulg at November 13, 2026 11:24 AM (77rzZ)
Rubio could move b/c he's in DC right now...he could become a DC resident...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:26 AM (Gb7+b)
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@53
>>Maybe. Or it might just prove you can't beat something with nothing, which is what the GOP has on offer. What is the GOP's message?
How do you message against a literal anti-christ in Texas, if the anti-christ get's 5.2m votes?
Paxton might not of been the greatest candidate but he's no anti-christ and the anti-christ won.
>>Maybe. Or it might just prove you can't beat something with nothing, which is what the GOP has on offer. What is the GOP's message?
How do you message against a literal anti-christ in Texas, if the anti-christ get's 5.2m votes?
Paxton might not of been the greatest candidate but he's no anti-christ and the anti-christ won.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:26 AM (XV/Pl)
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Fine start fining Hollywood for filming.
Simply turning the FBI's sex crimes division on Hollywood would end them.
Fine start fining Hollywood for filming.
Simply turning the FBI's sex crimes division on Hollywood would end them.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:26 AM (sKqQm)
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How do you message against a literal anti-christ in Texas, if the anti-christ get's 5.2m votes?
Paxton might not of been the greatest candidate but he's no anti-christ and the anti-christ won.
The argument the left was making is "you can't vote for someone that cheated on his wife"...so vote for the Pedo instead.
Paxton might not of been the greatest candidate but he's no anti-christ and the anti-christ won.
The argument the left was making is "you can't vote for someone that cheated on his wife"...so vote for the Pedo instead.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:26 AM (sKqQm)
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2 Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:01 AM (sKqQm)
Hi I am up to 1.3 trillion a quarter and growing....
//national debt interest.....
why it is almost like QEleventy might be part of it....
I am not ranting about structural economics anymore because the people under 40 have no idea what a real economy looks like or actual creation and I am tired of wasting my breath.
I am comfortable, they are convinced if you call gravity racist you can fly and I am encouraging them to go to cliffs and show me.
Hi I am up to 1.3 trillion a quarter and growing....
//national debt interest.....
why it is almost like QEleventy might be part of it....
I am not ranting about structural economics anymore because the people under 40 have no idea what a real economy looks like or actual creation and I am tired of wasting my breath.
I am comfortable, they are convinced if you call gravity racist you can fly and I am encouraging them to go to cliffs and show me.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (Int1s)
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In a recent piece that documented how counterfeit goods are a core product of Amazon’s business model ...
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Hey, at least our CongessCritters, Deep State Traitors, CEOs and other "luminaries" aren't in bed -- figuratively and often literally -- with foreign adversaries like Chy-na and Iran.
Eh, nevermind ...
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Hey, at least our CongessCritters, Deep State Traitors, CEOs and other "luminaries" aren't in bed -- figuratively and often literally -- with foreign adversaries like Chy-na and Iran.
Eh, nevermind ...
Posted by: ShainS at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (dFfN0)
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I don't think these young socialists know any more about "crony capitalism" or "corporatism" than they do about socialism. In fact, I'm not sure they'd recognize those terms. Their buzz-words are "corporate greed" and even, simply "the corporations." That's all you need in order to be evil.
We should be using the phrase "socialist greed" and "socialist corruption", "socialist thievery", and "socialist fraud", "socialist waste" in every discussion of we can and the Republicans certainly should as they fight Democrat spending.
There's plenty of real world examples to buttress the use of those phrases.
We need to stop surrendering the language to the Democrats/communists advantage.
We should be using the phrase "socialist greed" and "socialist corruption", "socialist thievery", and "socialist fraud", "socialist waste" in every discussion of we can and the Republicans certainly should as they fight Democrat spending.
There's plenty of real world examples to buttress the use of those phrases.
We need to stop surrendering the language to the Democrats/communists advantage.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (YSUhf)
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So, I'd vote for Rubio or DeSantis before him.
Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
The only thing - DeSantis has less charisma than a potato.
Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
The only thing - DeSantis has less charisma than a potato.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (ZdAbl)
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It is easy to look like a great governor when you have a strong majority in your legislature.
He stuck around the primary even after he had no path to win, just to have a platform to attack Trump.
Even after Trump secured the nomination, he had his surrogates relentlessly attack all the way through the general and after. Never said a word against Kamala, just non-stop destroy Trump.
Now he thinks we will just forget and unite behind him?
He stuck around the primary even after he had no path to win, just to have a platform to attack Trump.
Even after Trump secured the nomination, he had his surrogates relentlessly attack all the way through the general and after. Never said a word against Kamala, just non-stop destroy Trump.
Now he thinks we will just forget and unite behind him?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (PB58D)
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@66
>>...so vote for the Pedo instead.
And I'm not being flip when I say Talerico is an anti-christ, he literally espouses things that that are contra Christian thinking.
A f**** anti-christ is now Senator from Texas.
>>...so vote for the Pedo instead.
And I'm not being flip when I say Talerico is an anti-christ, he literally espouses things that that are contra Christian thinking.
A f**** anti-christ is now Senator from Texas.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:29 AM (XV/Pl)
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Willowed comment:
>>> Screenwriter William Goldman noted that during his time as an Army draftee, he spent all of that time in a basement coming up with military acronyms. This was his JOB, it wasn't a matter of the E4 Mafia shamming. His greatest achievement was coming up with an acronym that was longer than the phrase he was supposed to be summarizing. And getting the Army to actually adopt it.
I'll bite, did he say what the acronym was? I'm curious.
>>> Screenwriter William Goldman noted that during his time as an Army draftee, he spent all of that time in a basement coming up with military acronyms. This was his JOB, it wasn't a matter of the E4 Mafia shamming. His greatest achievement was coming up with an acronym that was longer than the phrase he was supposed to be summarizing. And getting the Army to actually adopt it.
I'll bite, did he say what the acronym was? I'm curious.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:29 AM (Eng1Z)
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PS - Hit piece out today on Rubio spending public money on flights to see his son's FL football games...so I expect Ds and the media to go whole hog at DeSantis and Rubio b/c they are the obvious team up...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:29 AM (Gb7+b)
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we don't like vance now because he has the taint of america first with tucker? that's the dog whistle?
Posted by: nckate at November 13, 2026 11:29 AM (enNUy)
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66 Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:26 AM (sKqQm)
If Paxton is unelectable, then America is iredeemable and I am fine with it....I literally pumped the breaks on buying a second house based on this election...
I will either be buying an RV in 2028 or starting to set up shop in south america walking against the tide....fuck these people.
If Paxton is unelectable, then America is iredeemable and I am fine with it....I literally pumped the breaks on buying a second house based on this election...
I will either be buying an RV in 2028 or starting to set up shop in south america walking against the tide....fuck these people.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:30 AM (Int1s)
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We should be using the phrase "socialist greed" and "socialist corruption", "socialist thievery", and "socialist fraud", "socialist waste" in every discussion of we can and the Republicans certainly should as they fight Democrat spending.
To paraphrase Sowell, why is it greed for a working person to want to keep the money they earned, but virtue for a politician to take that money and give it to their friends?
To paraphrase Sowell, why is it greed for a working person to want to keep the money they earned, but virtue for a politician to take that money and give it to their friends?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:30 AM (sKqQm)
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I don't think this is what's griping the young socialists. They simply don't understand that capitalism is NOT a zero-sum game and they don't like those CEOs and corporations being so rich. Nationalize them, seize the CEOs' wealth, and voila! The windmill will be finished in no time.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:21 AM (XJ22o)
I agree, the fervent socialists don't know and don't care. I think Buck's point is that for those who aren't rabid socialist idiots, they see and hear corporations hiring H-1Bs and firing their parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. They hear about pension and 401(K) cuts and the rising cost of insurance and then news reports about corporations receiving all sorts of government incentives (and certain Congress critters getting filthy rich from conveniently timed stock market trades).
They intuitively sense that something is fundamentally broken, and they only ones they hear who are promoting something different are the Socialists. They need to hear more Republicans like DeSantis decrying corporatism, and the Trump administration needs to keep up and promote the destruction of the H-1B system.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:21 AM (XJ22o)
I agree, the fervent socialists don't know and don't care. I think Buck's point is that for those who aren't rabid socialist idiots, they see and hear corporations hiring H-1Bs and firing their parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. They hear about pension and 401(K) cuts and the rising cost of insurance and then news reports about corporations receiving all sorts of government incentives (and certain Congress critters getting filthy rich from conveniently timed stock market trades).
They intuitively sense that something is fundamentally broken, and they only ones they hear who are promoting something different are the Socialists. They need to hear more Republicans like DeSantis decrying corporatism, and the Trump administration needs to keep up and promote the destruction of the H-1B system.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:30 AM (P9Ea3)
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>>> “If it’s cronyism versus socialism, there’s going to be enough people who are going to choose socialism.”
That rot at the highest levels, and rooting it out, is part of the lure, for sure. As is affordability. They are too young to know that the siren song of socialism just makes both of these worse.
That rot at the highest levels, and rooting it out, is part of the lure, for sure. As is affordability. They are too young to know that the siren song of socialism just makes both of these worse.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (Eng1Z)
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But bear, the Dems are/were equally bereft of any real message, notably so, making the 1980 election amidst 1994 conditions all the more striking - and inexplicable. The Dems lacked/lack any interesting or popular figures. They've mostly made headlines, for years, for their freaks.
Remains to be seen, if solid data exists, what actually motivated the Dem turnout explosion. "Corruption" is leading contender - what? That redounds to *Dem* benefit? Also needs to be explained how such a gigantic turnout increase was accomplished. Don't believe there's been anything like it in our entire history.
Here in politically dead CA, perhaps it's understandable that it's almost as if there were no election at all. Not even lawn signs for local stuff. Nothing. Nobody talked about it. It made 1996 look like a high-intensity election.
I don't know, but impression is that it was similar elsewhere. I'm probably not up with all the available actual data, but I still find the whole thing baffling.
Remains to be seen, if solid data exists, what actually motivated the Dem turnout explosion. "Corruption" is leading contender - what? That redounds to *Dem* benefit? Also needs to be explained how such a gigantic turnout increase was accomplished. Don't believe there's been anything like it in our entire history.
Here in politically dead CA, perhaps it's understandable that it's almost as if there were no election at all. Not even lawn signs for local stuff. Nothing. Nobody talked about it. It made 1996 look like a high-intensity election.
I don't know, but impression is that it was similar elsewhere. I'm probably not up with all the available actual data, but I still find the whole thing baffling.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (U/Byj)
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The only thing - DeSantis has less charisma than a potato.
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according to whomst ? seems to have worked in FL, and he seems to be getting traction nationally
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according to whomst ? seems to have worked in FL, and he seems to be getting traction nationally
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (AKptf)
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Luckily, we have Great Americans like sportsball team owners out there who would NEVER try to extract sweetheart tax deals to support their businesses. Like say, subsidized stadiums and sportsball arenas.
Luckily, we have Great Americans like sportsball team owners out there who would NEVER try to extract sweetheart tax deals to support their businesses. Like say, subsidized stadiums and sportsball arenas.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (iqcvy)
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Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
They are also both from Florida, so I don't think that is allowed to be a ticket. I think the POTUS and VPOTUS have to be from different states.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
They are also both from Florida, so I don't think that is allowed to be a ticket. I think the POTUS and VPOTUS have to be from different states.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (P9Ea3)
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Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (PB58D)
People said critical things about a politician?! To the smelling salts.
People said critical things about a politician?! To the smelling salts.
Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (2OZeM)
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Me: Then they can buy their hohos and doritos with their money just like I have to. Also this is why "the poor" are mostly fat. Make them cook and earn money for goodies.
LIV: That's not fair!
Posted by: 18-1
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I'd turn this one on them so hard they'd hang their head. I'd attack like hell.
Aaaaand unfortunately, my brilliant dialog is being rejected as spam!
Me: Then they can buy their hohos and doritos with their money just like I have to. Also this is why "the poor" are mostly fat. Make them cook and earn money for goodies.
LIV: That's not fair!
Posted by: 18-1
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I'd turn this one on them so hard they'd hang their head. I'd attack like hell.
Aaaaand unfortunately, my brilliant dialog is being rejected as spam!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:32 AM (XJ22o)
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83 Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
They are also both from Florida, so I don't think that is allowed to be a ticket. I think the POTUS and VPOTUS have to be from different states.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (P9Ea3)
One just needs to move before Nov 2028...Rubio already technically has...
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
They are also both from Florida, so I don't think that is allowed to be a ticket. I think the POTUS and VPOTUS have to be from different states.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (P9Ea3)
One just needs to move before Nov 2028...Rubio already technically has...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:32 AM (Gb7+b)
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Ron better what what he says because
Crony Capitalists = Political Donors
Crony Capitalists = Political Donors
Posted by: Bang-a-gong at November 13, 2026 11:32 AM (mnFxU)
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rhomboid, after that "let them eat a different protein" fiasco, the D candidate ran on "you don't need a different protein, you need a different Senator"
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:32 AM (AKptf)
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75 Posted by: nckate at November 13, 2026 11:29 AM (enNUy)
If the republican party is Nick Fuentes and/or Tuq'r's I am not an independent I am done.
The opposite of moral is not only immoral but arguably amoral....
I will become apolitical.
If the republican party is Nick Fuentes and/or Tuq'r's I am not an independent I am done.
The opposite of moral is not only immoral but arguably amoral....
I will become apolitical.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:33 AM (Int1s)
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With all due respect to Governor DeSantis, we don't need those young voters.
If they don't like crony capitalism and think society is too expensive, they need to get a 5th job.
If they don't like crony capitalism and think society is too expensive, they need to get a 5th job.
Posted by: AoS Boomer at November 13, 2026 11:33 AM (iwBbL)
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Sheldon Whitehouse
@SenWhitehouse
Dudes, you really picked the wrong guy [Richard "Dick" Blumenthal] to mess with.
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Remember, he strangled Ho Chi Minh with his own intestines!
@SenWhitehouse
Dudes, you really picked the wrong guy [Richard "Dick" Blumenthal] to mess with.
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Remember, he strangled Ho Chi Minh with his own intestines!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:33 AM (ndZc7)
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There are two interrelated problems.
1) People that are nominally right leaning want certain things - the end of immigration, H1Bs, discretionary spending, etc. This would immediately help them in measurable ways. Trump gave them some of that but the Republican congress had almost no interest in delivering all that - same deal with Republican state level officials
2) The FSA pays little direct consequences for just demanding more money every year. Yes in the long term its why our cities are shitholes but that is too long term for them to consider. Now Trump's fraud investigations started into this area but again the Republican congress did nothing to support it and most Republican lead states ignored all the fraud...
1) People that are nominally right leaning want certain things - the end of immigration, H1Bs, discretionary spending, etc. This would immediately help them in measurable ways. Trump gave them some of that but the Republican congress had almost no interest in delivering all that - same deal with Republican state level officials
2) The FSA pays little direct consequences for just demanding more money every year. Yes in the long term its why our cities are shitholes but that is too long term for them to consider. Now Trump's fraud investigations started into this area but again the Republican congress did nothing to support it and most Republican lead states ignored all the fraud...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (sKqQm)
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Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
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Cowboy Boots with Boosters FTW!
/Good hair (like Trump's!) > Height
[Seriously, I heard an analyst make an interesting point: when Democrat Communists win, it's usually because their candidates have "personalities" -- which most idiots often vote for over otherwise rational "issues."]
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
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Cowboy Boots with Boosters FTW!
/Good hair (like Trump's!) > Height
[Seriously, I heard an analyst make an interesting point: when Democrat Communists win, it's usually because their candidates have "personalities" -- which most idiots often vote for over otherwise rational "issues."]
Posted by: ShainS at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (dFfN0)
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Palin was attacking "crony capitalists" before it was cool. I hate these modifiers - it's basically socialism with extra steps - but she got destroyed for it.
So if it walks like a crony capitalist party and talks like a crony capitalist party.... maybe it really is just a cigar.
So if it walks like a crony capitalist party and talks like a crony capitalist party.... maybe it really is just a cigar.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (rXvAA)
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So now democrats are threatening to withhold funding for the supreme court unless they vote the "correct" way?
I guess they could do that for the military and any other branch of the government. A bit extreme but it is possible. I doubt they will do that though the backlash would be epic and they have to know that.
I guess they could do that for the military and any other branch of the government. A bit extreme but it is possible. I doubt they will do that though the backlash would be epic and they have to know that.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (I43vL)
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Rubio/DeSantis or vice versa would make a dynamite team.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
They are also both from Florida, so I don't think that is allowed to be a ticket. I think the POTUS and VPOTUS have to be from different states.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (P9Ea3)
My understanding is that that is a custom or "political wisdom",
not a constitutional requirement.
But, hey. I'm willing to be proved wrong.
Both are short though and apparently that makes a difference.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:22 AM (YSUhf)
They are also both from Florida, so I don't think that is allowed to be a ticket. I think the POTUS and VPOTUS have to be from different states.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (P9Ea3)
My understanding is that that is a custom or "political wisdom",
not a constitutional requirement.
But, hey. I'm willing to be proved wrong.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:35 AM (YSUhf)
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It is also a mistake to keep hyping 401k growth. What are you going to do, drain your 401k to buy a house? is that a good plan ? how is that helping anyone who just started accumulating and barely has anything in the account?
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:35 AM (AKptf)
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I Think Thune might beat out Chuck Schumer and Van Holland for Majority leader of the Crony Capitalists
Posted by: Bang-a-gong at November 13, 2026 11:35 AM (mnFxU)
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94 Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (rXvAA)
Right and the AK GOP loved the message so much they went commie....
and "ok"
America at a molecular level has a sickness that is probably worse than communism, it has a populace that wants cash but not toil.....
"message received"
Right and the AK GOP loved the message so much they went commie....
and "ok"
America at a molecular level has a sickness that is probably worse than communism, it has a populace that wants cash but not toil.....
"message received"
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:35 AM (Int1s)
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The only thing - DeSantis has less charisma than a potato.
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according to whomst ?
Posted by: runner
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According to anyonest who watches him. AOC would blow him off the stage -- not with facts or great arguments, but with her willingness to literally jump around, do impressions (aka "code-switching"), and put a little e-MO-tion into her voice. How do you think Obama and Michelle got to where they are?
The only thing - DeSantis has less charisma than a potato.
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according to whomst ?
Posted by: runner
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According to anyonest who watches him. AOC would blow him off the stage -- not with facts or great arguments, but with her willingness to literally jump around, do impressions (aka "code-switching"), and put a little e-MO-tion into her voice. How do you think Obama and Michelle got to where they are?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)
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Republicans fought Palin and Trump harder than any Democrat, and... Republicans fought Palin and Trump harder than any Democrat.
If DeSantis takes this tack and doesn't get the Palin and Trump treatment from Republicans, I'm going to have questions.
Republicans fought Palin and Trump harder than any Democrat, and... Republicans fought Palin and Trump harder than any Democrat.
If DeSantis takes this tack and doesn't get the Palin and Trump treatment from Republicans, I'm going to have questions.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (rXvAA)
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Even after Trump secured the nomination, he had his surrogates relentlessly attack all the way through the general and after. Never said a word against Kamala, just non-stop destroy Trump.
Now he thinks we will just forget and unite behind him?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (PB58D)
Maybe my memory's foggy, but who the hell are you talking about who was a DeSantis surrogate? The Bulwark crew?
DeSantis endorsed Trump and then quietly went back to work as governor and let Trump be the star on the national circuit. What did you want?
Now he thinks we will just forget and unite behind him?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM (PB58D)
Maybe my memory's foggy, but who the hell are you talking about who was a DeSantis surrogate? The Bulwark crew?
DeSantis endorsed Trump and then quietly went back to work as governor and let Trump be the star on the national circuit. What did you want?
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (P9Ea3)
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I'll bite, did he say what the acronym was? I'm curious.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:29 AM (Eng1Z)
I tried to find it once, with no luck. The anecdote was in one of his books on screenwriting where he talks about his background and how he got into the movie business.
Then again, this is the guy who wrote The Princess Bride, so I'd take that story with a grain of salt...
I'll bite, did he say what the acronym was? I'm curious.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:29 AM (Eng1Z)
I tried to find it once, with no luck. The anecdote was in one of his books on screenwriting where he talks about his background and how he got into the movie business.
Then again, this is the guy who wrote The Princess Bride, so I'd take that story with a grain of salt...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (iqcvy)
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"Thank you, Ron DeSantis. As pro-free enterprise patriots fighting the siren song of socialism, it is imperative that the conservative movement tackles the cancer of corporatism and unethical corporate behavior."
This is all well and fine. I'm not forgetting, on the other hand, that DeSantis had some of these corporate capitalists fund his 2024 primary efforts against Trump. Now, Rubio was snookered in the Gang of 8 mess during Obama, and it looks like he learned his lesson. Let's hope that Ron has learned his.
This is all well and fine. I'm not forgetting, on the other hand, that DeSantis had some of these corporate capitalists fund his 2024 primary efforts against Trump. Now, Rubio was snookered in the Gang of 8 mess during Obama, and it looks like he learned his lesson. Let's hope that Ron has learned his.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (H+yuG)
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97 Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:35 AM (AKptf)
If mamalamadingdong tries to take it I am going to do what game studio do with investor funds and yank it and functionally set it on fire to make a political point....only it is a crime when I do it....
If mamalamadingdong tries to take it I am going to do what game studio do with investor funds and yank it and functionally set it on fire to make a political point....only it is a crime when I do it....
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:37 AM (Int1s)
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I'd turn this one on them so hard they'd hang their head. I'd attack like hell.
Aaaaand unfortunately, my brilliant dialog is being rejected as spam!
That is frustrating, but I will say the problem here isn't making some better logical argument - how do you get LIVs in general to stop making decisions on pure short sited emotion?
People mostly don't vote based on logic.
Aaaaand unfortunately, my brilliant dialog is being rejected as spam!
That is frustrating, but I will say the problem here isn't making some better logical argument - how do you get LIVs in general to stop making decisions on pure short sited emotion?
People mostly don't vote based on logic.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:37 AM (sKqQm)
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Paxton might not of been the greatest candidate but he's no anti-christ and the anti-christ won.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:26 AM (XV/Pl
Have you considered that they don't care about his weird religious and sexual practices in the same way that many of us here don't care about this kind of thing in our own candidates so long as they seem like they'll do what we elect them to do?
It's a bit late in the day to expect orthodox interpretations of Christianity to be decisive in politics when the supposedly Christian-friendly party long ago abandoned any pretense of defending the faith in the public square, threw in the towel on all but the most extreme aspects of LBGT+ issues, won't engage in the culture war.
Apart from that, GOP pollsters have said they've had a hard time getting people to accept what the Democrats actually believe on these issues.
I've complained about this for years: "Vote red or transsexual imams will gay-marry your children in unisex restrooms" is not the winning argument that the GOP base (which needs no convincing) thinks it is.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 13, 2026 11:26 AM (XV/Pl
Have you considered that they don't care about his weird religious and sexual practices in the same way that many of us here don't care about this kind of thing in our own candidates so long as they seem like they'll do what we elect them to do?
It's a bit late in the day to expect orthodox interpretations of Christianity to be decisive in politics when the supposedly Christian-friendly party long ago abandoned any pretense of defending the faith in the public square, threw in the towel on all but the most extreme aspects of LBGT+ issues, won't engage in the culture war.
Apart from that, GOP pollsters have said they've had a hard time getting people to accept what the Democrats actually believe on these issues.
I've complained about this for years: "Vote red or transsexual imams will gay-marry your children in unisex restrooms" is not the winning argument that the GOP base (which needs no convincing) thinks it is.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 13, 2026 11:37 AM (yG4gY)
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Yes, the stock market is doing really well, and money is moving into the country, but each R state leader had a challenge to show how it trickles down, only DeSantis and Sanders and Blackburn rose up to it.
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:38 AM (AKptf)
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Basically, the game is no longer message, the game is who can get the most ballots tabulated wins.
That was always the game. I wonder if the Rs realize it even now. No, actually, I don't wonder that at all.
That was always the game. I wonder if the Rs realize it even now. No, actually, I don't wonder that at all.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 13, 2026 11:39 AM (vTZFs)
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107 Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 13, 2026 11:37 AM (yG4gY)
Sure...and I am being sincere...
the USPS is pretty into pansexualism.
Sure...and I am being sincere...
the USPS is pretty into pansexualism.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:39 AM (Int1s)
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it has a populace that wants cash but not toil.....
"message received"
Posted by: sven
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I think every human on earth wants this. If you could do the thing you like best for free, wouldn't you? I know that some people are making a living doing what they love, but they are rare.
it has a populace that wants cash but not toil.....
"message received"
Posted by: sven
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I think every human on earth wants this. If you could do the thing you like best for free, wouldn't you? I know that some people are making a living doing what they love, but they are rare.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:39 AM (XJ22o)
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102. Well Said. DeSantis and Vance are both veterans also. I am not going to sit around for 2 years bashing our great bench. Let the marxists do that
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:39 AM (gwrBY)
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One just needs to move before Nov 2028...Rubio already technically has...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:32 AM (Gb7+b)
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By election season '28, Rubio will be Military Governor of Cuba!
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:32 AM (Gb7+b)
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By election season '28, Rubio will be Military Governor of Cuba!
Posted by: ShainS at November 13, 2026 11:39 AM (dFfN0)
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According to anyonest who watches him. AOC would blow him off the stage -- not with facts or great arguments, but with her willingness to literally jump around, do impressions (aka "code-switching"), and put a little e-MO-tion into her voice. How do you think Obama and Michelle got to where they are?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)
how?? Cheating and AWFLS, of course!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)
how?? Cheating and AWFLS, of course!
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:40 AM (AKptf)
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Say what you will about DeSantis, he has the foresight of a Nostradamus.
Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
NOW: Gov. Ron DeSantis says he expects the 2028 Democratic primary to become a CLOWN SHOW which might help Republicans win
Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
NOW: Gov. Ron DeSantis says he expects the 2028 Democratic primary to become a CLOWN SHOW which might help Republicans win
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:40 AM (ndZc7)
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Apart from that, GOP pollsters have said they've had a hard time getting people to accept what the Democrats actually believe on these issues.
I see this constantly among the left leaning LIVs I know.
Some leftist candidate will get positive press for some insane policy zer wants. The LIVs don't hear the policy, just the praise on social media.
The LIVs vote in the leftist. The leftist does what zer said zer would do. Then I get to hear the LIVs complain about it. And if you point out they literally voted for it you'll get, "that's taken out of context, zer didn't actually mean it, its just bad luck"
I see this constantly among the left leaning LIVs I know.
Some leftist candidate will get positive press for some insane policy zer wants. The LIVs don't hear the policy, just the praise on social media.
The LIVs vote in the leftist. The leftist does what zer said zer would do. Then I get to hear the LIVs complain about it. And if you point out they literally voted for it you'll get, "that's taken out of context, zer didn't actually mean it, its just bad luck"
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:40 AM (sKqQm)
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At the moment I am expecting El Sayed to be the nominee.
Hopey Changey Part Deux, meant to feel like we are living in a bizarro world that never stops going upside down.
That's what the script looks like to me right now. I'm not "predicting" it (yet), just saying that's the direction the tea leaves are floating.
At the moment I am expecting El Sayed to be the nominee.
Hopey Changey Part Deux, meant to feel like we are living in a bizarro world that never stops going upside down.
That's what the script looks like to me right now. I'm not "predicting" it (yet), just saying that's the direction the tea leaves are floating.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:41 AM (rXvAA)
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Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 13, 2026 11:31 AM (2OZeM)
You can’t argue with people who pretend to not understand things.
You can’t argue with people who pretend to not understand things.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:41 AM (PB58D)
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109 Posted by: Oddbob at November 13, 2026 11:39 AM (vTZFs)
Ballots used to be an execution of individual human will on a singular level...now fallow rolls get voted on "to help" people who have moved on in bulk where dead people and people in other counties never have to even bother to fill them out in many cases....
a smart and mobile GOP would be doing the same thing and forcing the DNC locals to either throw out the ballots by not challenging the doubles or taking them to court.....
we are too ethical for that by which we mean lazy....so we are going to lose the whole thing.
Ballots used to be an execution of individual human will on a singular level...now fallow rolls get voted on "to help" people who have moved on in bulk where dead people and people in other counties never have to even bother to fill them out in many cases....
a smart and mobile GOP would be doing the same thing and forcing the DNC locals to either throw out the ballots by not challenging the doubles or taking them to court.....
we are too ethical for that by which we mean lazy....so we are going to lose the whole thing.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:42 AM (Int1s)
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How do you think Obama and Michelle got to where they are?
Him: weaponized white guilt. Her: him.
Him: weaponized white guilt. Her: him.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 13, 2026 11:42 AM (vTZFs)
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When Trump gets his 4 Appeals court judges confirmed in the lame duck, his 68 total will be the second highest after Reagan
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:42 AM (gwrBY)
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In terms of 2028, I think I've said it before, but at this point I'd be happy with either Rubio or DeSantis on the top of the ticket.
The biggest challenge I see for Rubio in a national election is how to handle the delicate question of "What would you do different from Trump?" Trump permits nothing that he perceives as disloyalty and he'll blast Marco without hesitation if Rubio handles the question awkwardly. However, as much as we don't like to admit it, there are a hell of a lot of centrists/right-leaners who hate Trump and don't want someone who tries to be a third term for him.
The biggest challenge I see for Rubio in a national election is how to handle the delicate question of "What would you do different from Trump?" Trump permits nothing that he perceives as disloyalty and he'll blast Marco without hesitation if Rubio handles the question awkwardly. However, as much as we don't like to admit it, there are a hell of a lot of centrists/right-leaners who hate Trump and don't want someone who tries to be a third term for him.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:42 AM (P9Ea3)
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many Ds who won moved to the center, Durka Durka barely got over the finish line, had Schumer boost him, and had to bring in "volunteers" from Chicago...
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:42 AM (AKptf)
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it has a populace that wants cash but not toil.....
See Republican can run on this as well but they won't.
Flat out take money from leftwing demographics. Then give it to right leaning demographics in whatever bullshit "for the children" way you need to.
Traditional conservative economics died when Shrub started increasing the then bloated $2T budget. Now we should consider economics as a type of war.
See Republican can run on this as well but they won't.
Flat out take money from leftwing demographics. Then give it to right leaning demographics in whatever bullshit "for the children" way you need to.
Traditional conservative economics died when Shrub started increasing the then bloated $2T budget. Now we should consider economics as a type of war.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:42 AM (sKqQm)
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That is frustrating, but I will say the problem here isn't making some better logical argument - how do you get LIVs in general to stop making decisions on pure short sited emotion?
People mostly don't vote based on logic.
Posted by: 18-1
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My brilliant dialog didn't use logic. Lemme see if I can paste it in here...
Nope.
Anyway, it didn't use logic. Basically a mindless attack on them for depriving women and minorities of basic nutrition, ending with me cutting off the conversation. "I've learned everything about you I need to know."
That is frustrating, but I will say the problem here isn't making some better logical argument - how do you get LIVs in general to stop making decisions on pure short sited emotion?
People mostly don't vote based on logic.
Posted by: 18-1
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My brilliant dialog didn't use logic. Lemme see if I can paste it in here...
Nope.
Anyway, it didn't use logic. Basically a mindless attack on them for depriving women and minorities of basic nutrition, ending with me cutting off the conversation. "I've learned everything about you I need to know."
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (XJ22o)
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One of the lures for socialism that I think contributed to the blue wave, is something I'm still trying to put into words, but here's my unformed thoughts. The younger gens are currently all about "aura maxxing" and "vibes." If you can fake vibes, you've reeled them in.
Who's a better leader, Darth Vader or Jar Jar Binks? One's a homicidal maniac fanatic, but oozes aura and power out the wazoo. The other is an embarrassing, nerdy weirdo with no aura, but arguably would be a benevolent leader.
Trump has Vader aura, it's why the younger gens voted for him versus Kamala. JFK had Vader aura vs Jar Jar Nixon. Paxton and Abbot had no aura.
Whomever has the most aura will capture the presidency in 2028. Pence and Christie have talked about running, but they have Jar Jar aura. Love Desantis, but he has to find the way to authentically add Vader aura to his brand, or he's toast, same with JD. I think Rubio is the one with the most Vader aura; the memes have helped, but has the chops to do the job.
AOC and Newsom are both vile lizard people, but do have aura. Homicidal, like Vader, but it keeps them afloat despite making every wrong choice possible.
Who's a better leader, Darth Vader or Jar Jar Binks? One's a homicidal maniac fanatic, but oozes aura and power out the wazoo. The other is an embarrassing, nerdy weirdo with no aura, but arguably would be a benevolent leader.
Trump has Vader aura, it's why the younger gens voted for him versus Kamala. JFK had Vader aura vs Jar Jar Nixon. Paxton and Abbot had no aura.
Whomever has the most aura will capture the presidency in 2028. Pence and Christie have talked about running, but they have Jar Jar aura. Love Desantis, but he has to find the way to authentically add Vader aura to his brand, or he's toast, same with JD. I think Rubio is the one with the most Vader aura; the memes have helped, but has the chops to do the job.
AOC and Newsom are both vile lizard people, but do have aura. Homicidal, like Vader, but it keeps them afloat despite making every wrong choice possible.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (Eng1Z)
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41 Cicero don't get the opposition to stock buybacks. It's the opposite of actions that are dilutive. Both things affect shareholders. I think the whole question is situation-dependent, and buybacks only make sense in certain circumstances. But how is (mildly) reducing float and boosting existing shareholder's stake (in effect) bad?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2026 11:18 AM (U/Byj)
Stock buybacks are not in themselves bad things. A company that has excess cash has a limited set of options: put money into personnel or infrastructure expansion, put money into shareholders hands via dividends, or buy back stock. Accumulating and hoarding lots of cash just isn't the most efficient use of capital.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2026 11:18 AM (U/Byj)
Stock buybacks are not in themselves bad things. A company that has excess cash has a limited set of options: put money into personnel or infrastructure expansion, put money into shareholders hands via dividends, or buy back stock. Accumulating and hoarding lots of cash just isn't the most efficient use of capital.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (H+yuG)
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Jewish vote was still 70% Dem, even after all the Anti Semitism. Sigh.....
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (gwrBY)
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Cowboy Boots with Boosters FTW!
/Good hair (like Trump's!) > Height
[Seriously, I heard an analyst make an interesting point: when Democrat Communists win, it's usually because their candidates have "personalities" -- which most idiots often vote for over otherwise rational "issues."]
Posted by: ShainS at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (dFfN0)
I think this played a fairly big part in Paxton's loss.
He's a great AG. Smart and would've been a great asset, but-
he's an ugly guy with his lazy eye and generally slovenly appearance, he looks like a "corrupt" pol as Talarico ads kept calling him. Or the crooked car mechanic. Perfect in that way for a Hollywood movie.
Whereas Talarico with his glow-boy plastic surgery giving him cute, little pinchable chipmunk cheeks gave him Teh Ladies Lookist Vote.
It shouldn't make a difference but...yeah, it does at least to a fair number of people. They vote subconsciously.
/Good hair (like Trump's!) > Height
[Seriously, I heard an analyst make an interesting point: when Democrat Communists win, it's usually because their candidates have "personalities" -- which most idiots often vote for over otherwise rational "issues."]
Posted by: ShainS at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (dFfN0)
I think this played a fairly big part in Paxton's loss.
He's a great AG. Smart and would've been a great asset, but-
he's an ugly guy with his lazy eye and generally slovenly appearance, he looks like a "corrupt" pol as Talarico ads kept calling him. Or the crooked car mechanic. Perfect in that way for a Hollywood movie.
Whereas Talarico with his glow-boy plastic surgery giving him cute, little pinchable chipmunk cheeks gave him Teh Ladies Lookist Vote.
It shouldn't make a difference but...yeah, it does at least to a fair number of people. They vote subconsciously.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (YSUhf)
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Less charisma might be good after Trump and his HUGE charisma. Wasn't that a downside people said?
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (enNUy)
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I've complained about this for years: "Vote red or transsexual imams will gay-marry your children in unisex restrooms" is not the winning argument that the GOP base (which needs no convincing) thinks it is.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 13, 2026 11:37 AM
At least here in Texas republican voters who voted democrat are going to get a good hard lesson on what that vote will mean to them personally. The incoming democrats have already filed 235 bills for the upcoming legislation session. 35 of the are gun control bills and a bunch of them are for die and transgender stuff to remove state laws already in place to protect us from the dei/transgender mob.
The incoming democrat governor is already prepping for her first day in office and has a slew of "emergency" price control schemes that she will sign in her first hour. She is also working on how to implement an income tax as well, it will be called something different but it will be a new tax on all of us.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 13, 2026 11:37 AM
At least here in Texas republican voters who voted democrat are going to get a good hard lesson on what that vote will mean to them personally. The incoming democrats have already filed 235 bills for the upcoming legislation session. 35 of the are gun control bills and a bunch of them are for die and transgender stuff to remove state laws already in place to protect us from the dei/transgender mob.
The incoming democrat governor is already prepping for her first day in office and has a slew of "emergency" price control schemes that she will sign in her first hour. She is also working on how to implement an income tax as well, it will be called something different but it will be a new tax on all of us.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (I43vL)
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Rubio as first Hispanic on ticket is powerful
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:44 AM (gwrBY)
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111 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:39 AM (XJ22o)
No that was not what election 80 was about, and it is not how I got out of Landmark Village in fairborn Ohio....
so NO....but in the end this is about killing climbers like me...we want American favelas it seems....
Not a problem, if we are to be SOuth America del Norte I can go to Brazil where the chicks are hotter and the communism more honest with no pretense of liberty.
No that was not what election 80 was about, and it is not how I got out of Landmark Village in fairborn Ohio....
so NO....but in the end this is about killing climbers like me...we want American favelas it seems....
Not a problem, if we are to be SOuth America del Norte I can go to Brazil where the chicks are hotter and the communism more honest with no pretense of liberty.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:44 AM (Int1s)
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Rs are always a few years behind the Ds in messaging, and registration. DeSantis made a point that Rs ran on trans issue, and that was yesterday's 2024 issue. Economy was something people were worried about, and many Rs missed an opportunity to bring something to the table in the economic sphere that people could relate to.
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:45 AM (AKptf)
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It was obvious at the time, but the rationale that DeSantis had to try his sad abortive run in '24 "because he'll be forgotten by the next cycle" was so incredibly dumb - and today's discussion redundantly confirms that.
Head-shaking political judgement failure in '24.
Of course it doesn't matter really, situation is desperate and any non-D in the WH is the exigent stop-gap requirement. Forget the frills and finer points. And everybody makes mistakes along the road to successes.
I have tremendous difficulty however seeing DeSantis winning MI and WI, something very distinctively if not uniquely suited to Trump's peculiar appeal (especially to non-college whites). Rubio? Marginally better but still hard to see. It's all academic if one of them can't win those two states. And we're not even talking, yet, about how GA and AZ and possibly TX are battlegrounds, not electoral votes banked before election day.
Head-shaking political judgement failure in '24.
Of course it doesn't matter really, situation is desperate and any non-D in the WH is the exigent stop-gap requirement. Forget the frills and finer points. And everybody makes mistakes along the road to successes.
I have tremendous difficulty however seeing DeSantis winning MI and WI, something very distinctively if not uniquely suited to Trump's peculiar appeal (especially to non-college whites). Rubio? Marginally better but still hard to see. It's all academic if one of them can't win those two states. And we're not even talking, yet, about how GA and AZ and possibly TX are battlegrounds, not electoral votes banked before election day.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2026 11:45 AM (U/Byj)
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So now democrats are threatening to withhold funding for the supreme court unless they vote the "correct" way?
I guess they could do that for the military and any other branch of the government. A bit extreme but it is possible. I doubt they will do that though the backlash would be epic and they have to know that.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (I43vL)
The post-Vietnam President Peanut Carter 70's called...
So now democrats are threatening to withhold funding for the supreme court unless they vote the "correct" way?
I guess they could do that for the military and any other branch of the government. A bit extreme but it is possible. I doubt they will do that though the backlash would be epic and they have to know that.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (I43vL)
The post-Vietnam President Peanut Carter 70's called...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 13, 2026 11:45 AM (iqcvy)
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At the moment I am expecting El Sayed to be the nominee.
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I think that's a strong possibility. Do you think Kamala will run?
At the moment I am expecting El Sayed to be the nominee.
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I think that's a strong possibility. Do you think Kamala will run?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:46 AM (XJ22o)
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DeSantis purging voting rolls, saved his state in 2026. More than DeWine or Abbott did
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:46 AM (gwrBY)
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131 Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (I43vL)
and I will laugh, most especially on the border area.....
I am in end as you all know a vindictive motherfucker....
I love police badge cams....and Texas will be providing plenty, until she outlaws them.
and I will laugh, most especially on the border area.....
I am in end as you all know a vindictive motherfucker....
I love police badge cams....and Texas will be providing plenty, until she outlaws them.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:46 AM (Int1s)
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Anyway, it didn't use logic. Basically a mindless attack on them for depriving women and minorities of basic nutrition, ending with me cutting off the conversation. "I've learned everything about you I need to know."
This does remind me of an exchange I had.
LIV cow-workers: Isn't Nike a great company for hiring Colin Kapernik? They are a real voice for the oppressed!
Me: Nike? The company that has sweatshops in east Asia and sell overpriced goods to the poor to have record profits every year...that corporate conglomerate? Sorry I can't say anything good about them
LIV cow-workers: You know when you put it like that...uh...well...hey how about the latest sportsball scores?
Anyway, it didn't use logic. Basically a mindless attack on them for depriving women and minorities of basic nutrition, ending with me cutting off the conversation. "I've learned everything about you I need to know."
This does remind me of an exchange I had.
LIV cow-workers: Isn't Nike a great company for hiring Colin Kapernik? They are a real voice for the oppressed!
Me: Nike? The company that has sweatshops in east Asia and sell overpriced goods to the poor to have record profits every year...that corporate conglomerate? Sorry I can't say anything good about them
LIV cow-workers: You know when you put it like that...uh...well...hey how about the latest sportsball scores?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:46 AM (sKqQm)
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I still like Rubio, Ron and Vance and we've got two years to see what shakes out. For sure I see no women on the horizon I could support. Unless I'm forgetting someone. That might be a downside for the youngsters.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (enNUy)
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GOP still holds Legislative chambers in Ohio, TX, Iowa, Georgia etc.. These new Commie Gov's will be paper tigers
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (gwrBY)
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Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:43 AM (Eng1Z)
I have been harping on this for so months but the "youth are driving the country" is 100% the op. They moved it faster than I thought they would but it's here and I have described the shape in excruciating detail.
It appeared in June but has been planned much longer. Probably why they had to get rid of Charlie. It's gathering speed now but few know it. I've watched it from the embryonic stage. I have warned people here and tried to tell you the things that will keep you sane. I cannot stress enough - things are about to get WEIRD
Weirder than a dementia patient dizzying around the country with Ray-Bans on. Way weirder. Gird.
I have been harping on this for so months but the "youth are driving the country" is 100% the op. They moved it faster than I thought they would but it's here and I have described the shape in excruciating detail.
It appeared in June but has been planned much longer. Probably why they had to get rid of Charlie. It's gathering speed now but few know it. I've watched it from the embryonic stage. I have warned people here and tried to tell you the things that will keep you sane. I cannot stress enough - things are about to get WEIRD
Weirder than a dementia patient dizzying around the country with Ray-Bans on. Way weirder. Gird.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (rXvAA)
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Add state and municipal funded sportsball stadia. I have nothing against football, but why should I subsidize football fans' hobby? Legitimate economic studies show that supposed benefits are illusory at best. I suppose you could add (predatory) casinos and horse tracks, etc. Am is missing anything?
Posted by: Martin Tell at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (sFNX2)
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Speaking of military acronyms, CINCUS was the acronym for Commander In Chief US Fleet until just after Pearl Harbor at which time it was thought that "Sink Us" was perhaps not the motto they were looking for and changed it to COMINCH.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (ndZc7)
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124 Posted by: 18-1 at November 13, 2026 11:42 AM (sKqQm)
We are getting penalized for breaking democrat rice bowls we did not really break...just one USAID....that is it.
We are getting penalized for breaking democrat rice bowls we did not really break...just one USAID....that is it.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (Int1s)
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132 Rubio as first Hispanic on ticket is powerful
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:44 AM (gwrBY)
That is true. That would be a major plus in a few states.
Posted by: Jonah at November 13, 2026 11:44 AM (gwrBY)
That is true. That would be a major plus in a few states.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (P9Ea3)
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For sure I see no women on the horizon I could support. Unless I'm forgetting someone. That might be a downside for the youngsters.
Posted by: NCKate
Sarah Huckabee Sanders?
Posted by: NCKate
Sarah Huckabee Sanders?
Posted by: Bulg at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (77rzZ)
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>>> The only thing - DeSantis has less charisma than a potato.
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according to whomst ?
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According to anyonest who watches him. AOC would blow him off the stage -- not with facts or great arguments, but with her willingness to literally jump around, do impressions (aka "code-switching"), and put a little e-MO-tion into her voice. How do you think Obama and Michelle got to where they are? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)
Yes, this what I'm talking about Morticia! Exactly. It doesn't matter that Desantis was a stellar leader by every metric, And AOC is a dumb bint with only failures trailing behind her, like scuttling the Amazon deal. In a contest of aura on a debate stage, Jar Jar Desantis loses against AOC's confident, crazy eyes Vader aura.
We don't have another republican with Trump/Vader/Elon aura right now. Maybe Rubio. Maybe someone will come out of the wings, who knows.
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according to whomst ?
Posted by: runner
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According to anyonest who watches him. AOC would blow him off the stage -- not with facts or great arguments, but with her willingness to literally jump around, do impressions (aka "code-switching"), and put a little e-MO-tion into her voice. How do you think Obama and Michelle got to where they are? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)
Yes, this what I'm talking about Morticia! Exactly. It doesn't matter that Desantis was a stellar leader by every metric, And AOC is a dumb bint with only failures trailing behind her, like scuttling the Amazon deal. In a contest of aura on a debate stage, Jar Jar Desantis loses against AOC's confident, crazy eyes Vader aura.
We don't have another republican with Trump/Vader/Elon aura right now. Maybe Rubio. Maybe someone will come out of the wings, who knows.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (Eng1Z)
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Maybe my memory's foggy, but who the hell are you talking about who was a DeSantis surrogate? The Bulwark crew?
No. Look for the people on X who have a gator in their name. Pushaw, Ellis, Cardillo, Gonzales to name a few. Their mission was and is to inflict as much damage on Trump as possible. They were mad that their guy lost the primary, and are still stompy foot about it today. Same model as the Cornyn people. Same as the Casey Putsch people. My guy lost the primary, so I will work against the winner in the general. And the candidate himself stays quiet
No. Look for the people on X who have a gator in their name. Pushaw, Ellis, Cardillo, Gonzales to name a few. Their mission was and is to inflict as much damage on Trump as possible. They were mad that their guy lost the primary, and are still stompy foot about it today. Same model as the Cornyn people. Same as the Casey Putsch people. My guy lost the primary, so I will work against the winner in the general. And the candidate himself stays quiet
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (PB58D)
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I still like Rubio, Ron and Vance and we've got two years to see what shakes out. For sure I see no women on the horizon I could support. Unless I'm forgetting someone. That might be a downside for the youngsters.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (enNUy)
White Hispanic, White Man, White Man...
Republicans are De Debil! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
I still like Rubio, Ron and Vance and we've got two years to see what shakes out. For sure I see no women on the horizon I could support. Unless I'm forgetting someone. That might be a downside for the youngsters.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (enNUy)
White Hispanic, White Man, White Man...
Republicans are De Debil! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 13, 2026 11:49 AM (iqcvy)
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Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:41 AM (PB58D)
I understand perfectly. You want to blame Trump's immense unpopularity on people saying snarky things on Twitter instead of his own success in pissing off voters.
Because remember: It's always a good sign when you have to rob an eighty something billionaire politician of agency.
I understand perfectly. You want to blame Trump's immense unpopularity on people saying snarky things on Twitter instead of his own success in pissing off voters.
Because remember: It's always a good sign when you have to rob an eighty something billionaire politician of agency.
Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 13, 2026 11:50 AM (2OZeM)
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For sure I see no women on the horizon I could support. Unless I'm forgetting someone. That might be a downside for the youngsters.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (enNUy)
None come to my mind, either.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (enNUy)
None come to my mind, either.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:50 AM (P9Ea3)
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According to anyonest who watches him. AOC would blow him off the stage -- not with facts or great arguments, but with her willingness to literally jump around, do impressions (aka "code-switching"), and put a little e-MO-tion into her voice. How do you think Obama and Michelle got to where they are?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)
There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:36 AM (XJ22o)
There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM (Gb7+b)
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The only thing - DeSantis has less charisma than a potato.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM
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I could do with less charisma, and a more results. DeSantis delivers results.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 13, 2026 11:28 AM
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I could do with less charisma, and a more results. DeSantis delivers results.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM (OkYzo)
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The Rubio drinking water meme would come out when the conversation turned to charisma.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM (enNUy)
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think that's a strong possibility. Do you think Kamala will run?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:46 AM (XJ22o)
Possibly.
I said way back I was expecting a scripted attention getting circus from the D's. That is looking "obvious" now but it was anything but when I was saying it - and when we had some here hammering that it's so obviously Kamala or Newscum.
It may yet be but I don't think so. Does she run as part of it? Probably. Does he? They need attention from the last set of fans. They need to air their ideas and grievances on the world stage.
I suppose she could always not run and just endorse the purported front runner at the opportune time. But I would lean she runs.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:46 AM (XJ22o)
Possibly.
I said way back I was expecting a scripted attention getting circus from the D's. That is looking "obvious" now but it was anything but when I was saying it - and when we had some here hammering that it's so obviously Kamala or Newscum.
It may yet be but I don't think so. Does she run as part of it? Probably. Does he? They need attention from the last set of fans. They need to air their ideas and grievances on the world stage.
I suppose she could always not run and just endorse the purported front runner at the opportune time. But I would lean she runs.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM (rXvAA)
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There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM
Debates are done, joe biden put an end to any democrat willing to go on TV and debate a republican.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM
Debates are done, joe biden put an end to any democrat willing to go on TV and debate a republican.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:52 AM (I43vL)
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Look for the people on X who have a gator in their name. Pushaw, Ellis, Cardillo, Gonzales to name a few.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (PB58D)
I think I found my problem (or maybe it's yours). X is not the real world, and I have no idea who any of the people you name are, nor do I think many people know.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:48 AM (PB58D)
I think I found my problem (or maybe it's yours). X is not the real world, and I have no idea who any of the people you name are, nor do I think many people know.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at November 13, 2026 11:52 AM (P9Ea3)
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I think Lousy-ana provides about $300/month for a single person at the lowest level. Unfortunately, if I'm reading their page right, my income comes in above even the highest level -- so I doubt I could legally receive SNAP benefits.
Sure would help with my monthly food bills, though.
Sure would help with my monthly food bills, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 13, 2026 11:53 AM (56Qyq)
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Rubio as first Hispanic on ticket is powerful
Posted by: Jonah
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Yeh, I'm kind of sorry to indulge in identity politics, but that is a Rubio advantage.
sven, you and I agree.
Rubio as first Hispanic on ticket is powerful
Posted by: Jonah
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Yeh, I'm kind of sorry to indulge in identity politics, but that is a Rubio advantage.
sven, you and I agree.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (XJ22o)
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CUAD (cofounded by incoming Congresswoman Darializa) calls Elias Rodriguez a political prisoner.
His crime wasn’t protest. He murdered a Jewish couple on the street as they left a party at the Capital Jewish Museum in DC.
His crime wasn’t protest. He murdered a Jewish couple on the street as they left a party at the Capital Jewish Museum in DC.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (ndZc7)
Posted by: Bulg at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (77rzZ)
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>>> I still like Rubio, Ron and Vance and we've got two years to see what shakes out. For sure I see no women on the horizon I could support. Unless I'm forgetting someone. That might be a downside for the youngsters.
The only one I can think of is Tulsi Gabbard, tbh, and she's still in many ways a Democrat at heart. That streak in her hair makes her look like Rogue. But her husband has cancer and that is the most important thing right now. She could run after he passes though and she's had enough time to mourn.
Maybe Sarah? But the southern yokel thing will get played up and she'll get the Palin treatment.
The only one I can think of is Tulsi Gabbard, tbh, and she's still in many ways a Democrat at heart. That streak in her hair makes her look like Rogue. But her husband has cancer and that is the most important thing right now. She could run after he passes though and she's had enough time to mourn.
Maybe Sarah? But the southern yokel thing will get played up and she'll get the Palin treatment.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (Eng1Z)
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Yeh, I'm kind of sorry to indulge in identity politics, but that is a Rubio advantage.
sven, you and I agree.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (XJ22o)
Given how much fakery there is I would say there is a better than even chance we are being roped in to selecting Rubio as the heir apparent.
Lot of conveniences came out of this latest election and it's impossible to really know which ones to believe.
Yeh, I'm kind of sorry to indulge in identity politics, but that is a Rubio advantage.
sven, you and I agree.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (XJ22o)
Given how much fakery there is I would say there is a better than even chance we are being roped in to selecting Rubio as the heir apparent.
Lot of conveniences came out of this latest election and it's impossible to really know which ones to believe.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:55 AM (rXvAA)
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So now democrats are threatening to withhold funding for the supreme court unless they vote the "correct" way?
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I would actually be very curious to see the actual and unintended consequences of a 2-year Feral Government shutdown would pan out.
My greatest worry wouldn't be for myself or my peers who actually did have tremendous opportunities: as a tail-end boomer (identify more as Gen X) who does feel awful -- and personally apologize to young Americans on behalf of whenever I get the opportunity to chat with them -- for the 60s hippy Me-Generation scumbags that had seriously eroded the American Dream for our progeny (running up a National Debt over $300 trillion when "unfunded liabilities" are included being just one of many irrational & irresponsible disgraces).
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I would actually be very curious to see the actual and unintended consequences of a 2-year Feral Government shutdown would pan out.
My greatest worry wouldn't be for myself or my peers who actually did have tremendous opportunities: as a tail-end boomer (identify more as Gen X) who does feel awful -- and personally apologize to young Americans on behalf of whenever I get the opportunity to chat with them -- for the 60s hippy Me-Generation scumbags that had seriously eroded the American Dream for our progeny (running up a National Debt over $300 trillion when "unfunded liabilities" are included being just one of many irrational & irresponsible disgraces).
Posted by: ShainS at November 13, 2026 11:55 AM (dFfN0)
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I like sanders and think she's great doing what she's doing. Her father seems like a wet blanket so I'm not a fan of his. I'm not sure about national for her yet.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 11:55 AM (enNUy)
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Palin was attacking "crony capitalists" before it was cool. I hate these modifiers - it's basically socialism with extra steps - but she got destroyed for it.
So if it walks like a crony capitalist party and talks like a crony capitalist party.... maybe it really is just a cigar.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (rXvAA)
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The Alaskan crony capitalists referred to themselves as the "Corrupt Old Bastards Club" or some such. They reveled in their chicanery, wore COB ball caps. Murky carries their water, now.
So if it walks like a crony capitalist party and talks like a crony capitalist party.... maybe it really is just a cigar.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:34 AM (rXvAA)
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The Alaskan crony capitalists referred to themselves as the "Corrupt Old Bastards Club" or some such. They reveled in their chicanery, wore COB ball caps. Murky carries their water, now.
Posted by: mrp at November 13, 2026 11:55 AM (rj6Yv)
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>>I understand perfectly. You want to blame Trump's immense unpopularity on people saying snarky things on Twitter instead of his own success in pissing off voters.
If Trump is so immensely unpopular how did he manage to barnstorm the country filling arena after arena with overflow crowds for a month straight? How did even CNNs polling showing he hasn't lost any ground at all with his base?
The bullshit Trump is unpopular is just more made up bullshit like Russia collusion. Psyops is a huge part of our current political environment, don't fall for it.
If Trump is so immensely unpopular how did he manage to barnstorm the country filling arena after arena with overflow crowds for a month straight? How did even CNNs polling showing he hasn't lost any ground at all with his base?
The bullshit Trump is unpopular is just more made up bullshit like Russia collusion. Psyops is a huge part of our current political environment, don't fall for it.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2026 11:56 AM (viF8m)
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If Tulsi was one of us instead of out of CIA Central Casting she would be the most dangerous woman in America right now and someone I could support because she would have a genuine chance at the whole ball of wax.
But she's not one of us. It's a shame.
But she's not one of us. It's a shame.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:56 AM (rXvAA)
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Trump is so immensely unpopular that republican candidates received as many or more votes than any prior election, but democrats somehow found 20 million more voters than any time in history.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:57 AM (PB58D)
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158 There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM
Debates are done, joe biden put an end to any democrat willing to go on TV and debate a republican.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:52 AM (I43vL)
Yup. so we need a sound bite candidate, not a debate candidate...DeSantis does that well...he can get to the meat of a matter with something that sells to LIVs...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:51 AM
Debates are done, joe biden put an end to any democrat willing to go on TV and debate a republican.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 13, 2026 11:52 AM (I43vL)
Yup. so we need a sound bite candidate, not a debate candidate...DeSantis does that well...he can get to the meat of a matter with something that sells to LIVs...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:57 AM (Gb7+b)
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So now democrats are threatening to withhold funding for the supreme court unless they vote the "correct" way?
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Lot of shit they say and do is just "power posing".
The idea is to make them feel more powerful than they are. Not that they wouldn't do these things or wouldn't threaten people but a lot of it is just to make them seem big and us and Trump and everyone who opposes them seem small.
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Lot of shit they say and do is just "power posing".
The idea is to make them feel more powerful than they are. Not that they wouldn't do these things or wouldn't threaten people but a lot of it is just to make them seem big and us and Trump and everyone who opposes them seem small.
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:58 AM (rXvAA)
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Trump having a murderers row of tech billionaires over at the White House to chilax didn’t help.
I work in tech and owe a lot of my financial success to these people. And still I hate them, lol. I can’t imagine what the average Joe feels towards them.
I work in tech and owe a lot of my financial success to these people. And still I hate them, lol. I can’t imagine what the average Joe feels towards them.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 13, 2026 11:58 AM (Z40qK)
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CUAD (cofounded by incoming Congresswoman Darializa) calls Elias Rodriguez a political prisoner.
His crime wasn’t protest. He murdered a Jewish couple on the street as they left a party at the Capital Jewish Museum in DC.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (ndZc7)
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OUT: Free Mumia!
IN: Free Elias!
His crime wasn’t protest. He murdered a Jewish couple on the street as they left a party at the Capital Jewish Museum in DC.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (ndZc7)
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OUT: Free Mumia!
IN: Free Elias!
Posted by: ShainS at November 13, 2026 11:58 AM (dFfN0)
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Rubio as first Hispanic on ticket is powerful
Posted by: Jonah
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Yeh, I'm kind of sorry to indulge in identity politics, but that is a Rubio advantage.
sven, you and I agree.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (XJ22o)
It's only an advantage if you're a D...and even then, not always...
We think it's an advantage, but it's really not nationally...
Thus, why there are so few firsts...and when you have a first, there's not really a quick 2nd follow up...
Rubio as first Hispanic on ticket is powerful
Posted by: Jonah
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Yeh, I'm kind of sorry to indulge in identity politics, but that is a Rubio advantage.
sven, you and I agree.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 11:54 AM (XJ22o)
It's only an advantage if you're a D...and even then, not always...
We think it's an advantage, but it's really not nationally...
Thus, why there are so few firsts...and when you have a first, there's not really a quick 2nd follow up...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 11:58 AM (Gb7+b)
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>>> I have been harping on this for so months but the "youth are driving the country" is 100% the op. They moved it faster than I thought they would but it's here and I have described the shape in excruciating detail. It appeared in June but has been planned much longer. Probably why they had to get rid of Charlie. It's gathering speed now but few know it. I've watched it from the embryonic stage. I have warned people here and tried to tell you the things that will keep you sane. I cannot stress enough - things are about to get WEIRD
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (rXvAA)
Yes, Charlie had aura and vibes out the wazoo, with the benevolence and steel trap mind of a stellar leader. We lost one of our best. He was on track to one day run for president and would have done well.
The good news is, he inspired a LOT of younger kids to confidently stand for conservatism. But it will take a long while to see the fruits of his efforts, I think. Not soon enough to save us in 2028. But I hope some of those kids go on to run for office.
Steve Miller has aura despite the baldness. But man, was he good looking with his head of hair in college!
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 11:47 AM (rXvAA)
Yes, Charlie had aura and vibes out the wazoo, with the benevolence and steel trap mind of a stellar leader. We lost one of our best. He was on track to one day run for president and would have done well.
The good news is, he inspired a LOT of younger kids to confidently stand for conservatism. But it will take a long while to see the fruits of his efforts, I think. Not soon enough to save us in 2028. But I hope some of those kids go on to run for office.
Steve Miller has aura despite the baldness. But man, was he good looking with his head of hair in college!
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 11:59 AM (Eng1Z)
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Gabbard was an op, she was there to raise her own profile. Her entire department leaked like crazy - against Trump. People working for her were compromised. Joe Kent is a traitorous pro-iranian cvnt. She held on to him forever.
Posted by: runner at November 13, 2026 11:59 AM (AKptf)
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There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
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The Dems have some good performers. I don't think they'll waste talent. And they have some -- I hate to say it -- good themes, like free healthcare, tax the billionaires, free college, stopping the ICE brownshirts...
There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
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The Dems have some good performers. I don't think they'll waste talent. And they have some -- I hate to say it -- good themes, like free healthcare, tax the billionaires, free college, stopping the ICE brownshirts...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (XJ22o)
Posted by: Oddbob at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (vTZFs)
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“Young people have a very positive view of socialism compared to capitalism. The question is, why is that?”
Because you keep calling it by their name. Who wouldn’t like socialism, other than a few sick loners about to shoot up a post office?
Socialism is a nice word for tyranny. It’s a nice word for the few forcing the many into submission and poverty. It is one of the Left’s many opposite words, meaning the opposite of what it sounds like it means.
Because you keep calling it by their name. Who wouldn’t like socialism, other than a few sick loners about to shoot up a post office?
Socialism is a nice word for tyranny. It’s a nice word for the few forcing the many into submission and poverty. It is one of the Left’s many opposite words, meaning the opposite of what it sounds like it means.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (f2Jjf)
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179
There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
Posted by: Nova Local
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The Dems have some good performers. I don't think they'll waste talent. And they have some -- I hate to say it -- good themes, like free healthcare, tax the billionaires, free college, stopping the ICE brownshirts...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (XJ22o)
Yes, but those Ds can't answer questions behind their soundbites b/c there are nbo answers, b/c their policies are insane or would be unpopular...so they will not risk a debate. They will stick to teleprompters and basements...see Talarico.
There won't be debates, so you don't have to worry about that (see TX this year)...
Posted by: Nova Local
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The Dems have some good performers. I don't think they'll waste talent. And they have some -- I hate to say it -- good themes, like free healthcare, tax the billionaires, free college, stopping the ICE brownshirts...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (XJ22o)
Yes, but those Ds can't answer questions behind their soundbites b/c there are nbo answers, b/c their policies are insane or would be unpopular...so they will not risk a debate. They will stick to teleprompters and basements...see Talarico.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 12:02 PM (Gb7+b)
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>>> Socialism is a nice word for tyranny.
I've been calling it Temu Marxism. It's a cheap solution that breaks, and then you have to pay a steep cost to replace it.
I've been calling it Temu Marxism. It's a cheap solution that breaks, and then you have to pay a steep cost to replace it.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 12:02 PM (Eng1Z)
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Take a good look at our schools and universities. Look what they are teaching kids from grammar school until they graduate. Look who the teachers are.
That young people today have a positive view of socialism is one of the least surprising things in the world. They've been taught to like it since they were toddlers.
That young people today have a positive view of socialism is one of the least surprising things in the world. They've been taught to like it since they were toddlers.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2026 12:02 PM (viF8m)
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171 Trump is so immensely unpopular that republican candidates received as many or more votes than any prior election, but democrats somehow found 20 million more voters than any time in history.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:57 AM (PB58D)
"Party in opposition gains voters by campaigning based on opposition to an unpopular incumbent" isn't a mystery that cries out for an explanation.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:57 AM (PB58D)
"Party in opposition gains voters by campaigning based on opposition to an unpopular incumbent" isn't a mystery that cries out for an explanation.
Posted by: Don't Blame Me! at November 13, 2026 12:03 PM (2OZeM)
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181 “Young people have a very positive view of socialism compared to capitalism. The question is, why is that?”
Because you keep calling it by their name. Who wouldn’t like socialism, other than a few sick loners about to shoot up a post office?
Socialism is a nice word for tyranny. It’s a nice word for the few forcing the many into submission and poverty. It is one of the Left’s many opposite words, meaning the opposite of what it sounds like it means.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (f2Jjf)
We need to change the name to economic slavery...that would be how to market the D plans in 2028. Yes, Rs, you can send me my 7 figure check anytime for doing your work for you.
And when asked how they could call it slavery, then you just start talking b/c we can back it up...
Because you keep calling it by their name. Who wouldn’t like socialism, other than a few sick loners about to shoot up a post office?
Socialism is a nice word for tyranny. It’s a nice word for the few forcing the many into submission and poverty. It is one of the Left’s many opposite words, meaning the opposite of what it sounds like it means.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (f2Jjf)
We need to change the name to economic slavery...that would be how to market the D plans in 2028. Yes, Rs, you can send me my 7 figure check anytime for doing your work for you.
And when asked how they could call it slavery, then you just start talking b/c we can back it up...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 12:03 PM (Gb7+b)
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Big business loooves socialism. From Wal Mark who can't take EBT cards fast enough to the health care providers who shake down medicare to the defense industry and their $5000.00 toilets.
Socialism Pays!
Socialism Pays!
Posted by: Get On Board Before Your Left Behind at November 13, 2026 12:03 PM (Ssbab)
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The bullshit Trump is unpopular is just more made up bullshit like Russia collusion. Psyops is a huge part of our current political environment, don't fall for it.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2026 11:56 AM (viF8m)
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The groundwork for the 2026 midterms was laid by the MSM starting on Inauguration Day.
Every event that was deemed by the MSM as politically, economically, or socially detrimental was NOT assigned to the "government" or the "administration" was determined to be a "Trump" action. Directly. Inflation? "Trump's inflationary policy". Deficit spending? "Trump's deficit spending". The MSM personalised every act affecting the country to "Trump". That tactic paid off on Election Day.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2026 11:56 AM (viF8m)
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The groundwork for the 2026 midterms was laid by the MSM starting on Inauguration Day.
Every event that was deemed by the MSM as politically, economically, or socially detrimental was NOT assigned to the "government" or the "administration" was determined to be a "Trump" action. Directly. Inflation? "Trump's inflationary policy". Deficit spending? "Trump's deficit spending". The MSM personalised every act affecting the country to "Trump". That tactic paid off on Election Day.
Posted by: mrp at November 13, 2026 12:03 PM (rj6Yv)
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If the youngsters want to be socialists, they need to do that without all the money that capitalism provided their parents. Like that useless fuck who inherited all the millions from Cox Media or whatever it's named.
Posted by: NCKate at November 13, 2026 12:03 PM (enNUy)
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>>> free healthcare
We have to push back against this phrasing too. It's taxpayer funded healthcare.
We have to push back against this phrasing too. It's taxpayer funded healthcare.
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (Eng1Z)
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It's [identity politics] only an advantage if you're a D...and even then, not always...
Posted by: Nova Local
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I think you underestimate the power of tribalism. I bet Hispanics would vote for him without even knowing his party affiliation.
It's [identity politics] only an advantage if you're a D...and even then, not always...
Posted by: Nova Local
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I think you underestimate the power of tribalism. I bet Hispanics would vote for him without even knowing his party affiliation.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)
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Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 13, 2026 12:00 PM (f2Jjf)
Their fucking teachers the GOP refused to force in the batters box told them it was a cost free panacea....akin to getting plowed by John Holmes or blown by Jeanna Fine depending on preference....
and as was screamed for decades....CONTROL their bullshit...
fuck it....have fun folks.
Their fucking teachers the GOP refused to force in the batters box told them it was a cost free panacea....akin to getting plowed by John Holmes or blown by Jeanna Fine depending on preference....
and as was screamed for decades....CONTROL their bullshit...
fuck it....have fun folks.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (Int1s)
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"Trump is so immensely unpopular that republican candidates received as many or more votes than any prior election, but democrats somehow found 20 million more voters than any time in history." - Cat Ass
This is much of it right here, the unexplained and extremely anomalous '26 results really require some analysis.
Believe GOP actually brought in just above an average mid-term/party in power share of the vote. So, a typical performance. Dems got a 1980 wave election result. In a political atmosphere and economy vastly different, and better, than that facing Jimmy Carter's Dems in 1980.
This is much of it right here, the unexplained and extremely anomalous '26 results really require some analysis.
Believe GOP actually brought in just above an average mid-term/party in power share of the vote. So, a typical performance. Dems got a 1980 wave election result. In a political atmosphere and economy vastly different, and better, than that facing Jimmy Carter's Dems in 1980.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (U/Byj)
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169 The bullshit Trump is unpopular is just more made up bullshit like Russia collusion. Psyops is a huge part of our current political environment, don't fall for it.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2026 11:56 AM (viF8m)
Psyops and coups. This election was stolen pure and simple. The American Thinker article that JJ linked was spot on and explains it well. Were there places where a R legit lost, I’m sure there are. But I didn’t even know who was running for gov until I saw an early Talarico sign with her name under it in a smaller font. And over 5 million voted for her? And now we’re seeing all these counties where the votes outnumbered registered voters? And the hapless GOP will do nothing about it. Sorry for the rant, but the whole thing is sickening.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2026 11:56 AM (viF8m)
Psyops and coups. This election was stolen pure and simple. The American Thinker article that JJ linked was spot on and explains it well. Were there places where a R legit lost, I’m sure there are. But I didn’t even know who was running for gov until I saw an early Talarico sign with her name under it in a smaller font. And over 5 million voted for her? And now we’re seeing all these counties where the votes outnumbered registered voters? And the hapless GOP will do nothing about it. Sorry for the rant, but the whole thing is sickening.
Posted by: TxAnn at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (itAg7)
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The coporate weenies want their money and they will support GOP or Dem that will give them the best return.
Posted by: Banzaibob at November 13, 2026 12:06 PM (tcz4d)
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It's [identity politics] only an advantage if you're a D...and even then, not always...
Posted by: Nova Local
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I think you underestimate the power of tribalism. I bet Hispanics would vote for him without even knowing his party affiliation.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)
Nope Hispanics are most tribal but ONLY their own nation's tribe - ask Lin Manuel Miranda who found out the hard way.
You see this all the time in movies - Mexican movies do great here b/c we have a lot of Mexicans...Dominican or Puerto Rican movies, not so much.
And it makes sense b/c some Central and South American countries hate each other (and have gone to war with each other in the last 50 years)...
Marco is the wrong Hispanic...he won't draw Mexicans...
It's [identity politics] only an advantage if you're a D...and even then, not always...
Posted by: Nova Local
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I think you underestimate the power of tribalism. I bet Hispanics would vote for him without even knowing his party affiliation.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)
Nope Hispanics are most tribal but ONLY their own nation's tribe - ask Lin Manuel Miranda who found out the hard way.
You see this all the time in movies - Mexican movies do great here b/c we have a lot of Mexicans...Dominican or Puerto Rican movies, not so much.
And it makes sense b/c some Central and South American countries hate each other (and have gone to war with each other in the last 50 years)...
Marco is the wrong Hispanic...he won't draw Mexicans...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 13, 2026 12:07 PM (Gb7+b)
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Trump is so immensely unpopular that republican candidates received as many or more votes than any prior election, but democrats somehow found 20 million more voters than any time in history.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:57 AM (PB58D)
I looked at the numbers and they seem legit even though the mail in fraud, Buick trunk fraud and illegal invaders voting fraud cannot be proven so it's not like the democrats cheated even though they always do like I said I looked at the numbers and they look right to me.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 13, 2026 11:57 AM (PB58D)
I looked at the numbers and they seem legit even though the mail in fraud, Buick trunk fraud and illegal invaders voting fraud cannot be proven so it's not like the democrats cheated even though they always do like I said I looked at the numbers and they look right to me.
Posted by: Smooth brained election opinion guy at November 13, 2026 12:07 PM (Ssbab)
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Is TX doing a county by county audit? Even if they are doomed to fail, fight a little. At least they have a supermajority still, I think, in their legislature to push back against the governor? Enough to override vetos?
Posted by: LizLem at November 13, 2026 12:08 PM (Eng1Z)
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Nothing's gonna change the outcome of this election.... We have to move on.. Not sure going after corporations is the answer as they are the employers ....
Posted by: It's me donna at November 13, 2026 12:10 PM (DO80x)
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We have to push back against this phrasing too. It's taxpayer funded healthcare.
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Try out some more phrases.
Soviet-style healthcare.
1984-style healthcare.
Soylent-Green-style healthcare (although they'd have to watch a movie)
Medieval-style healthcare (I don't know what it was! but try it. "The lord and ladies in government decide what you get, but bet on it: they always get the best.")
We have to push back against this phrasing too. It's taxpayer funded healthcare.
Posted by: LizLem
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Try out some more phrases.
Soviet-style healthcare.
1984-style healthcare.
Soylent-Green-style healthcare (although they'd have to watch a movie)
Medieval-style healthcare (I don't know what it was! but try it. "The lord and ladies in government decide what you get, but bet on it: they always get the best.")
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 13, 2026 12:10 PM (XJ22o)
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Did the Democrats muster 20 million voters to vote in an off year election? Where’s the proof? Oh, the vote counts? You know a certain widely used voting machine with roots in Venezuela (name starts with a “D” ) has been show in court to have internal modems and connectivity to the internet. One expert witness was able to show how you could change the votes recorded on the machine on the fly: he did so in court. Of course, that’s only one brand of voting machine, however “dominant”. Surely no other electronic voting machine would be like that. Interesting side note: one state that didn’t “flip” to the left is Oklahoma, where they use paper ballots and hand count the results, you know, like in the old days when we heard the results of an election that evening. Purely a coincidence, I’m sure!
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at November 13, 2026 12:10 PM (xu5Ib)
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Enough to override vetos?
I don’t think the Texas Senate can override vetos without the Texas House. But even if they could, what will they override? The House isn’t going to concur on any law for which a veto needs to be overridden.
I don’t think the Texas Senate can override vetos without the Texas House. But even if they could, what will they override? The House isn’t going to concur on any law for which a veto needs to be overridden.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 13, 2026 12:10 PM (f2Jjf)
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Nood.
Posted by: Nazdar at November 13, 2026 12:10 PM (NcvvS)
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>>Every event that was deemed by the MSM as politically, economically, or socially detrimental was NOT assigned to the "government" or the "administration" was determined to be a "Trump" action. Directly. Inflation? "Trump's inflationary policy". Deficit spending? "Trump's deficit spending". The MSM personalised every act affecting the country to "Trump". That tactic paid off on Election Day.
The left has been blaming Trump and us for everything from deficit spending to anal warts for decades. It might have gotten dialed up a bit this past couple years but people really need to start looking at the mechanics of the election.
Why do people think Democrat states went to war with the DOJ to prevent examination of state voter rolls? Why did a bunch of well funded NGOs spend the last couple of years registering millions of new voters often with no regard to citizenship?
The numbers are beyond obvious. Texas is a good place to look because it has traditionally been a red state during statewide elections and what happened there can't be explained by Trump being a doodoo head. It's not so much that Talarico won, it's by how much.
The left has been blaming Trump and us for everything from deficit spending to anal warts for decades. It might have gotten dialed up a bit this past couple years but people really need to start looking at the mechanics of the election.
Why do people think Democrat states went to war with the DOJ to prevent examination of state voter rolls? Why did a bunch of well funded NGOs spend the last couple of years registering millions of new voters often with no regard to citizenship?
The numbers are beyond obvious. Texas is a good place to look because it has traditionally been a red state during statewide elections and what happened there can't be explained by Trump being a doodoo head. It's not so much that Talarico won, it's by how much.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 13, 2026 12:10 PM (viF8m)
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The only reason we might have a Republican president in the next administration is to cooperate with the furtherance of socialism with a tacit republican face on it. This is not going to end well. 60-80 years of solid socialism everywhere you look, has brought us to the brink of a slow motion disaster. Might be too late for anything but resistance. That depends on what the military is doing for the next few years. There are no safe states now that they have pulled off the run the table steal in solid red states. Texas is now going to be California with more horses.
Posted by: Sandman arriveth at November 13, 2026 12:11 PM (6SzFw)
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Ron DeSantis will be the Republican presidential nominee in 2028. He will message more about a return to Reagan messaging on the economy about limited government intervention low taxes rather than Trump style Peronism.
This might not win a GE in an era of slopulism but may offer an antitode to slopulism on the right. He is a good communicator even if you disagree.
I hope so. That dude is a charisma black hole, but his stilettos make his ass look great
"He is a good communicator even if you disagree." I only remember clips of him acting like he is from another dimension who never had a human interaction in his life...
He looks awkward/uncomfortable trying to do retail politics. But his communication skills standing at a podium explaining policy or sitting down in an interview is actually great. There's a reason the intellectual wing of the GOP wanted him over Trump in 2022/23, but the MAGA base was still strong.
He's not a dumb guy. Neither are Rubio or Cruz. They all know legal history, have clear economic views. Only he has built a name not owed to association with Trump though.
This might not win a GE in an era of slopulism but may offer an antitode to slopulism on the right. He is a good communicator even if you disagree.
I hope so. That dude is a charisma black hole, but his stilettos make his ass look great
"He is a good communicator even if you disagree." I only remember clips of him acting like he is from another dimension who never had a human interaction in his life...
He looks awkward/uncomfortable trying to do retail politics. But his communication skills standing at a podium explaining policy or sitting down in an interview is actually great. There's a reason the intellectual wing of the GOP wanted him over Trump in 2022/23, but the MAGA base was still strong.
He's not a dumb guy. Neither are Rubio or Cruz. They all know legal history, have clear economic views. Only he has built a name not owed to association with Trump though.
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 13, 2026 12:11 PM (wuGUK)
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So is "corporatism" a euphemism for what. Corruption? Greed? Financialization?
One might argue this has crept throughout the culture the same way Marxism has.
Paying college athletes?
Professional athletes in the Olympics?
Is anyone a scholar-athlete anymore?
One might argue this has crept throughout the culture the same way Marxism has.
Paying college athletes?
Professional athletes in the Olympics?
Is anyone a scholar-athlete anymore?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 13, 2026 12:12 PM (RIvkX)
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206 Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at November 13, 2026 12:11 PM (wuGUK)
The Truman show functionally I guess...
Hope you are well....
I am busy I need to talk to the bank.
Buckle up y'all...those of you about to experience "donk's run wild" you have my sympathy in the micro......
you were warned.
The Truman show functionally I guess...
Hope you are well....
I am busy I need to talk to the bank.
Buckle up y'all...those of you about to experience "donk's run wild" you have my sympathy in the micro......
you were warned.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 12:14 PM (Int1s)
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The truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
House Dems Move to Shut Down Committee Investigating China’s Subversion of the Midterm Elections
House Dems Move to Shut Down Committee Investigating China’s Subversion of the Midterm Elections
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent at November 13, 2026 12:14 PM (ndZc7)
Posted by: illiniwek at November 13, 2026 12:15 PM (vbXSk)
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https://youtu.be/f-4nVSV1LeU?si=I6nvebE0jJ2UF3bx
https://youtu.be/f-4nVSV1LeU?si=I6nvebE0jJ2UF3bx
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 13, 2026 12:15 PM (BI5O2)
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207 Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 13, 2026 12:12 PM (RIvkX)
Corporatism is a real thing, it is in truest sense rent seeking and gatekeeping with some graft vectors and the GOP used to run in its progressive era on trust busting....
the issue AGAIN is the culture then was full of HARD WORKERS champing at the bit to get a fair share....
that is not this culture's problem...we have a free rider problem.
Corporatism is a real thing, it is in truest sense rent seeking and gatekeeping with some graft vectors and the GOP used to run in its progressive era on trust busting....
the issue AGAIN is the culture then was full of HARD WORKERS champing at the bit to get a fair share....
that is not this culture's problem...we have a free rider problem.
Posted by: sven at November 13, 2026 12:16 PM (Int1s)
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And the hapless GOP will do nothing about it. Sorry for the rant, but the whole thing is sickening.
Posted by: TxAnn at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (itAg7)
The hapless GOP is in on it. They need Trump gone way more than the Dems do
Posted by: TxAnn at November 13, 2026 12:04 PM (itAg7)
The hapless GOP is in on it. They need Trump gone way more than the Dems do
Posted by: ... at November 13, 2026 12:18 PM (rXvAA)
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>>>Prominently, this includes the embrace of what is effectively chattel labor. It can be in the form of foreign, low-paid, H-1B labor who can’t otherwise compete in the U.S. job market, or it may be subcontractors using off-the-books, illegal aliens as a source of untaxed and unregulated labor. I have documented multiple examples where subcontracted illegal laborers are living in slave-like conditions in the United States. Corporate America just winks at these abuses, then pawns off the cost of healthcare and other social services to taxpayers.
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A self-destructive, byzantine, anti-American environment in which the small entrepreneur cannot compete without participating.
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A self-destructive, byzantine, anti-American environment in which the small entrepreneur cannot compete without participating.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at November 13, 2026 12:26 PM (2UA/a)
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> AOC would blow him off the stage
Or in the alley, or in one of the restrooms, or in the walk-in cooler, or...
Or in the alley, or in one of the restrooms, or in the walk-in cooler, or...
Posted by: Former Customers of Her Bar at November 13, 2026 12:43 PM (qlLNh)
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The actual root of the problem is not simply crony capitalism nor socialism, mere names we give to these entities, but rather the individual, no matter whether it be a man or woman. Faithful followers of the teachings of Jesus Christ, Christians, are seemingly far and few and in between in the business world, and individuals who lack the Christian faith, and alleged Christians also, are the root cause of crony capitalism, socialism and all forms of governance. If men truly were followers of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the words of Scripture the ills affecting society would be greatly reduced.
Posted by: 20PlusYearLurker at November 13, 2026 12:59 PM (kkH1D)
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25 Again, it wasn't messaging or affordability that did the GOP in, it was the fact that the donks have taken advantage of our bullsh*t elections systems processes, loose registration criteria, non-existent chain of custody, early voting, extended voting,etc and registered millions upon millions of voters/ballots.
A literal anti-christ got 5.2m votes in Texas. Texas?
—-
He , talafreako was my rep for 2 years in a redistricting .
I didn’t know anything about him,
Called because my once deep red county was purple and the local
School
Board put filth in the elementary school next door.
His”manager” answered the phone, “
My pronouns are”..
It went down hill from there and he had to move to a “safe” district in Austin, which, we had our chance to eliminate this anti christ.
I told everyone I knew about this horses a$$
I know they paid their”volunteers “, big big money came in, they registered for years, got peope to the polls,
I didn’t see one republican volunteer in my 1100 housing neighborhood.
I tried to volunteer several times, the huge Williamson Republicans were lazy and pathetic
Definitely there was cheating in Texas.
1.7 million newly registered voters needed to citizenship.
A literal anti-christ got 5.2m votes in Texas. Texas?
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He , talafreako was my rep for 2 years in a redistricting .
I didn’t know anything about him,
Called because my once deep red county was purple and the local
School
Board put filth in the elementary school next door.
His”manager” answered the phone, “
My pronouns are”..
It went down hill from there and he had to move to a “safe” district in Austin, which, we had our chance to eliminate this anti christ.
I told everyone I knew about this horses a$$
I know they paid their”volunteers “, big big money came in, they registered for years, got peope to the polls,
I didn’t see one republican volunteer in my 1100 housing neighborhood.
I tried to volunteer several times, the huge Williamson Republicans were lazy and pathetic
Definitely there was cheating in Texas.
1.7 million newly registered voters needed to citizenship.
Posted by: Gonzotx at November 13, 2026 01:31 PM (nGraA)
Posted by: Gonzotx at November 13, 2026 01:32 PM (nGraA)
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