THE MORNING RANT: Tesla Pulls the Plug on its Failed Cybertruck Because There’s No Mass Market for EV Pickups

Tesla’s electric pickup truck, the Cybertruck, was announced in 2019 with great fanfare. It was touted as the electric “F150-slayer.” Hundreds of thousands of pre-orders were registered. The anti-carbon media swooned (this was before Elon Musk aligned with Republicans and Donald Trump) and legacy auto manufacturers panicked and started developing their own electric pickup trucks.

The Cybertruck finally went on sale in late 2023. It was a flop of legendary proportions. A few days ago, Elon Musk finally announced that he is pulling the plug on Tesla’s electric pickup truck.

“Tesla to pull the plug on Cybertruck after years of poor sales” [Reuters – 11/06/2026]

Elon Musk had predicted sales of 250,000 Cybertrucks per year, and that it would take on the Ford F150 as the dominant domestic pickup truck. Since the Cybertruck went on sale a little over three years ago, only 73,000 have been sold cumulatively. Sales peaked in 2024 at just 39k units, dropping to 20K in 2025, and tracking even lower in 2026.

In October 2026, Tesla sold less than 2,000 Cybertrucks while Ford sold more than 73,000 F150s, none of which were electric. (Ford sold exactly zero units of its recently-discontinued electric F150 ~~Conflagration~~ Lightning pickup in October.)

Musk and Tesla have been wildly successful selling electric vehicles as a daily commuter car to upscale professionals, especially those who own a house in which they can install a home charger. As a percentage of the light vehicle marketplace, it’s not a huge niche, but it still represents a lot of car buyers, and Tesla dominates it. A great many of the people whose station in life once steered them toward BMW, Mercedes, and Volvo are now driving Teslas. But they also tend to have at least one gas-powered vehicle in their garage.

Pickup trucks have a much different driver demographic. The upscale person who wants a pickup might already have a Tesla as his daily driver, so he chooses a gasoline-powered King Ranch F150 (or similar competitor offering) that can serve any pickup purpose, while still conveying affluence. For a person whose only vehicle is a pickup truck, however, the Cybertruck was not an option at all.

Despite the emphatic market rejection of electric pickups over the past few years, including the cancellation of the much-hyped flagships from Tesla and Ford, several more electric pickups have been announced. These include the Scout (owned by Volkswagen,) and the Slate from an investment group involving Jeff Bezos. Ford has also decided to lose several billion dollars more with yet another soon-to-fail electric pickup, the Fathom .

The new electric pickup companies are already hyping their pre-orders, with Scout and Slate both announcing they’ve taken deposits for more than 150k “reservations.” Unfortunately, pre-orders and reservations have a poor track record of converting into actual sales.

In Nov 2019, it was announced that 250,000 people had already put down deposits to pre-order a Cybertruck. As noted above, not even 75,000 Cybertrucks were actually delivered over three years before Tesla pulled the plug.

In 2021, Ford took deposits on almost 200,000 reservations for its F150 Lightning before closing new reservations due to “excessive demand.” Based on media buzz and all those pre-orders, Ford projected annual sales in excess of 150k electric pickup trucks per year. It barely sold 100k in total over the next five years, despite massive discounting to make the glut of unsellable Lightnings go away. The pre-orders had evaporated.

There has not been a commercially successful electric pickup truck because there is neither a market for one, nor a practical need. But like conquistadors in pursuit of the gold of Cibola, mismanaged auto manufacturers keep chasing the imaginary riches from a mass-market electric pickup. They are doomed to failure. If Elon Musk and Tesla couldn’t succeed in this market, it’s because the market doesn’t exist.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Oh, no!

Anyway....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (bFu5X)

2 Nooded.

Posted by: Nazdar at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (NcvvS)

3 And....SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:01 AM (bFu5X)

4 Yep

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (SN8r1)

5 The Democrats will fix this.

Posted by: fd at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (MWfyi)

6 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (bFu5X)

7 But where am I going to take a dump now?

Posted by: Scott Galloway, Serious Internet Influencer at November 09, 2026 11:02 AM (3aLWR)

8 Do the preorders require a nonrefundable deposit? If not, then they indicate precisely nothing about the demand for the vehicle.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (aTl7+)

9 Battery powered trucks?

Lol

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (RORbl)

10
They are doomed to failure. If Elon Musk and Tesla couldn’t succeed in this market, it’s because the market doesn’t exist.

___________

Trump could mandate that all trucks in the FedGov be Cybertrucks. Watch heads explode!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:03 AM (eRlcH)

11 Ford has also decided to lose several billion dollars more with yet another soon-to-fail electric pickup, the Fathom .

I find this to be unfathomable.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

12 Libtards stopped buying Tesla so there's that as well.

Posted by: Delurker at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2Drhq)

13 I do see cyber trucks every so often and I don't get the point.

If I want a truck I want a flatbed to put something in - a lawn mover, snow blower, etc.

You can't do that with a cybertruck right?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (sKqQm)

14 Good. Get those ugly things off the road.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (77rzZ)

15 Project much?

A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2GVsD)

16 Not to worry, though. Jaguar's new EV flagship will sell MILLLLLIONNNNNS!

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

17 Good. Get those ugly things off the road.

Right? Where's Lady Bird Johnson when you need her.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

18 It will appear in the next "Back to the Future" remake.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (RIvkX)

19 err Elon Musk

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (2GVsD)

20 Wow look at that. The price of gas is dropping like a stone, unemployment is down, job creation is up and the overall economy is improving.

Boy, who saw that coming?

Let’s elect some communists, islamists and America haters. We need a direction change.

Posted by: That Guy at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (fUkuv)

21 I've already seen people huffing copium and claiming that the Ford dealers can't keep F-150 Lightning in stock.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (RjOoY)

22 I think the cyber truck is a hideous monstrosity. But I also applaud musk for building it. Taking risks like that is good. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn’t. Don’t be afraid to try shit.

I also wonder if it would have been successful had the left not declared jihad on Tesla.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:06 AM (JQfkC)

23 A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

This idiot clearly doesn't understand that firing squads were for honorable soldiers. Hanging was for low lives.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)

24 21 I've already seen people huffing copium and claiming that the Ford dealers can't keep F-150 Lightning in stock.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM (RjOoY)

Give it’s no longer available for sale they are right technically.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:06 AM (JQfkC)

25
The head of BP said that the company's pursuit of renewables was a waste of shareholders money.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (eRlcH)

26 Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2GVsD)
====='
That was my first thought when I heard this ahistorical so-called professor speak. Vicious and uneducated, like his students I imagine.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (RIvkX)

27 what I find strange about this is that I see Cybertrucks all over the damn place here?

yet they only sold 70k of them?

all to SE PA apparently

Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (qBivk)

28
1. Cut electricity production
2. Raise electricity prices
3. Require everyone to buy electric cars

Posted by: The Plan at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (MWfyi)

29 Buck what's the likely ceiling on the market for EVs of all types, and aren't we about there already?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (U/Byj)

30 They were a vanity item more than anything.

But I did laugh at the folks trying to make a go at making them functional.

Like, saw one dude hauling a refrigerator in the back.

Looked as natural as strapping a fridge to the back of a Pinto.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (Cw3N8)

31 I admit it's not a very good one.

Posted by: The Plan at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (MWfyi)

32 I've already seen people huffing copium and claiming that the Ford dealers can't keep F-150 Lightning in stock.
Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:05 AM

People...just stop it.

Posted by: The Chicken at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (bFu5X)

33 what I find strange about this is that I see Cybertrucks all over the damn place here?

yet they only sold 70k of them?

all to SE PA apparently

I see them in southern NH/North east MA burbs too

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:08 AM (sKqQm)

34 Buck what's the likely ceiling on the market for EVs of all types, and aren't we about there already?

Whatever it is, I think we reached it some time ago. The ceiling drops year after year, because those who want one for status already have one, and the rest of the people have realized their shortcomings and limitations, and won't buy one.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

35 1. Cut electricity production
2. Raise electricity prices
3. Require everyone to buy electric cars

The plan was never to replace everyone's ICE car with an EV.

The plan was to remove ICE cars from the non-elites and only make EVs available to those the elites saw as doing something useful for them

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (sKqQm)

36 Cyber trucks always look like they escaped from a Roblox movie.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (dJgiD)

37 In Commie utopias, it is cheaper to either work enemies of the state to death or shoot them.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (2GVsD)

38
Back to the Future reboot: a Tesla truck that stalls right at the climax of the big rescue scene because it's out of charge.

And Michael or the Doc will plug in a vape pen or something that gets it juuuuust enough juice to race across the line while the lightning strikes.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM (XJ22o)

39 I do see cyber trucks every so often and I don't get the point.

If I want a truck I want a flatbed to put something in - a lawn mover, snow blower, etc.

You can't do that with a cybertruck right?
Posted by: 18-1

It was never meant to be a truck truck as Whoopi would say. It was supposed to be a badass looking futuristic thing that happened to kids look like a pickup truck. I doubt anyone bought it with the intention of towing anything with it or using the bed for anything more than some shit from Home Depot.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (JQfkC)

40 The only EV use case I can see is if you live in a city that doesn't get particularly cold or hot - DC, SF, etc.

Anywhere else they are strictly inferior to ICE cars

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (sKqQm)

41 I dunno, we have LOTS of them around here. Maybe they especially appealed to military and veterans. (Also loads of other Teslas, too.)

Posted by: GWB at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (kU0PQ)

42 Now you understand why 'ban ICE' is popular, they thought you are talking about cars.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (2GVsD)

43 With the collapse in crude price, EVs ought to be less attractive to potential customers. Here locally, gasoline is down 15% over the weekend.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (Jr5Lq)

44 Cyber trucks always look like they escaped from a Roblox movie.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 11:09 AM

The only one I ever liked was the one Brandon Herrera wrapped to look like some video game vehicle and then mounted a .50 on. Because a Cybertechnical would piss off all the right people.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (bFu5X)

45
Someone in the ONT said today was going to be a bloodbath on Wall Street. Dow is +900 and oil is down $2.50+.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (eRlcH)

46 Well I thought I saw (and it made sense) that used EVs are a very bad proposition due to cost of battery replacement, which cuts out a whole portion of a consumer vehicle's life-cycle. Also that a majority of EV owners did not plan to get another one to replace their first one. Possibly that's inaccurate or has changed.

Once all subsidies (both up front and operational, like HOV-lane privileges and the like) are gone, I'd bet $5 there's a pretty small niche for EVs.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (U/Byj)

47 what I find strange about this is that I see Cybertrucks all over the damn place here?

yet they only sold 70k of them?

all to SE PA apparently
Posted by: Black Orchid (j+aD2) at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (qBivk)

Or (unsurprisingly) to SpaceX. Every video of Starships and SuperHeavy boosters rolling out to launch pads or test sites features scads of Cybertrucks in company.

Posted by: far cry at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (+IsEU)

48 I personally know one guy that has a tesla.

He's right leaning and older.

I suspect this is likely the current audience.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:11 AM (sKqQm)

49 It seemed like there were a ton of them around because how much they stood out. You see 100 Toyota Camrys you don’t even notice. You see 2 Cyber trucks you think wow they’re everywhere.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:12 AM (JQfkC)

50
I did laugh at the folks trying to make a go at making them functional.

Like, saw one dude hauling a refrigerator in the back.

Looked as natural as strapping a fridge to the back of a Pinto.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

=================

I saw a guy getting ratio'd to death on X for showing off the mad offroad capabilities of his cybertruck. Drives on rocky mountain roads! Goes up mild inclines!

A thousand people in the comments saying, "So, my Toyota Corolla?" "My Volvo?" etc.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:12 AM (XJ22o)

51 I always thought they were ugly

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:12 AM (enNUy)

52 Someone in the ONT said today was going to be a bloodbath on Wall Street. Dow is +900 and oil is down $2.50+.

I asked AI why:

No one believes the Dems will do anything about data centers at least in the short term

"Inflation" will go down because Trump will face more difficulty with tariffs

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:13 AM (sKqQm)

53 It was a dumb idea.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:13 AM (SN8r1)

54 I always thought they were ugly

The Pontiac Aztek has rolled into Chat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:13 AM (2GVsD)

55 all to SE PA apparently
Posted by: Black Orchid

And NoVa.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (77rzZ)

56 Covid vaccine was announced 5 days after the election in 2020.

Oil is dropping bigly a few days after the election this year.

It’s almost as if…

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (JQfkC)

57 It's not a pickup truck.
It's a very fast, very ugly, very expensive electric four door El Camino.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (2Ez/1)

58 Probably does not help that the cybertruck is ugly and a vandalism magnet.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (HFrEr)

59 Bring back the Pacer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (Hgt7l)

60 Cyber truck = Fashion statement

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (XeU6L)

61
>>250,000 people had already put down deposits to pre-order a Cybertruck

>>Ford took deposits on almost 200,000 reservations for its F150 Lightning

===================

I am puzzled by this, though, since the sales were way below. Did people cancel their pre-orders? I bet some of them were nonrefundable.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (XJ22o)

62 *ahem*

Well, wasn't marketed to the right audience!

Posted by: Residents of TRON at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (rOKnE)

63 I was at a launch event last week for a new 7000 pound 2-door EV that costs over half a million bucks.

Rolls Spectre II.

Judging by the clientele at this event, I suspect most buyers will be rich black athletes and rapper guys.

Definitely not my kind of car. Was a fun event, though.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (iFTx/)

64 Brown acid was involved with the design of the Aztek.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:15 AM (SN8r1)

65 It’s almost as if…
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (JQfkC)

. . . it’s fake and ghey?

Posted by: RI Red at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (zYph5)

66 IIRC the deposit was $100. So not really that much of a commitment.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (JQfkC)

67 >> Cyber truck = Fashion statement

"EXACTLY!"
-- Motorola Brick Phone

Posted by: Residents of TRON at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (rOKnE)

68 I saw a guy getting ratio'd to death on X for showing off the mad offroad capabilities of his cybertruck. Drives on rocky mountain roads! Goes up mild inclines!

A thousand people in the comments saying, "So, my Toyota Corolla?" "My Volvo?" etc.
--
I really enjoyed the Hummer commercial of their electric offering.
Out there in the desert, tearing around like mad, spitting roster tails of dirt--so bad ass!

And I'm like, "OK, so where did you hide the diesel generator in order to be able to do all that hot-dogging 100 miles from the nearest charging station?"

I bet they have Jaguar-level sales numbers for that ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM (Cw3N8)

69 To be fair....Ol' Sloppy 'Gina announced she would be placing new taxes on Musk's production facilities like the Gigafactory.

Musk credited that to the end of the CyberTruck in his announcement.

Jobs lost due to Smelly 'Gina.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 11:17 AM (YSUhf)

70 It’s almost as if…
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:14 AM (JQfkC)

. . . it’s fake and ghey?
Posted by: RI Red at November 09, 2026 11:16 AM

And lame.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 11:17 AM (bFu5X)

71 >>>23 A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Wait, hold up, is the left admitting now that the Rosenbergs were actual traitors? They are letting the truth slip out? Because according to all their propaganda, including the play Angels in America, the Rosenbergs were innocent martyrs.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:17 AM (Toos7)

72 "Oil is dropping bigly a few days after the election this year."

The drop began the day before the election.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Jr5Lq)

73 Take that, Elon!

Posted by: Jessica Welch's Frigidaire Vagina at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (Hgt7l)

74 It would be better business model if you could grab the pick-up truck and push is backwards along the ground a few times to charge up the friction motor.

Then let it go and... ZOOM!!!

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (MDua2)

75 I personally know one guy that has a tesla.

He's right leaning and older.

I suspect this is likely the current audience.

Posted by: 18-1

There's a Cybertruck around here that has a Gadsden Flag license plate.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (77rzZ)

76 Rolls Spectre II.

What a missed opportunity. They could've called it the Skyfall.

Posted by: far cry at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (+IsEU)

77 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

78 Project much?

A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (2GVsD)
_____

I thought the left loved the Rosenbergs and thought they were heroes?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (iFTx/)

79 After the *biden years of pushing EV's and then not building out the charging stations required for them, why on earth would anyone still favor one?

Every once in a while I'll see where some retailer, office or whatever will tout that they have "a changing station" for your EV.

"A" As in one.

There's no infrastructure to support them. Let alone the electrical capacity to charge several million of them daily/nightly.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (RORbl)

80 How much can Mush exit TX at this point? He has yuuuge investments made/planned, right? Anyone think he'll abandon the state? Or possibly he assumes things won't get that bad, and that the fabled (and mostly mythical) "pendulum swing" will mitigate the idiocy in a few years?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (U/Byj)

81 77 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

What about them? They’re everywhere now.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (JQfkC)

82 LizLem

Yes they are. Everything is tactical and today with them since yesterday can be erased.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (2GVsD)

83 "The upscale person who wants a pickup might already have a Tesla as his daily driver"

I always have to call something out because it is always overlooked: almost noooooobody except a small handul of cat ladies in chevy bolts has a EV as their only vehicle. Sure, many daily drive their EV, but it's not their only vehicle.

Well, I suppose a few people do the two Tesla household. That's more severe form of the idiocy that gets people shot at charging stations in Bumblefuck because they thought a multi-charge road trip was a good idea.

I respect Musk's business empire but a disproportionate amount of his drivers lack common sense.

Posted by: heya at November 09, 2026 11:20 AM (Km6p/)

84
I thought the left loved the Rosenbergs and thought they were heroes?
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (iFTx/)

__________

They loved Sacco and Vanzetti, as well as Alger Hiss. But they were all guilty too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:20 AM (eRlcH)

85 Well, Ford is now building the "Fathom," a new electric truck that will undoubtedly be a piece of sh*t.

It's like they are actively trying to destroy shareholder value.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:20 AM (k5CNB)

86
A Commie cum gobbling podcaster not named Hasan Piker wants Elon Must put against the wall and shot, just like the Rosenbergs.

Uh, the Rosebergs were electrocuted.

The chair was against the wall.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (Cqx++)

87 Yeah it’s not like Elon can just move to a new state tomorrow. He’s made a lot of investments in Texas and you can’t just pack up a factory and move it in a week.

I think he’s stuck there for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (JQfkC)

88
I'm sure Musk will reach an "accommodation" with the Texas regime.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (eRlcH)

89 >>Wait, hold up, is the left admitting now that the Rosenbergs were actual traitors? They are letting the truth slip out? Because according to all their propaganda, including the play Angels in America, the Rosenbergs were innocent martyrs.

Heh, have you never seen them use the vilest anti-gay and/or misogynist slurs against conservative gays and women? Or, when discussing immigration, lament, "Who will clean our homes and tend our lawns?!"

All support of the various demographics is fake. They happily slur any/all of these groups in the proper context - demonizing someone on the other side.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (rOKnE)

90 "I'm sure Musk will reach an "accommodation" with the Texas regime."

DeSantis invited him to move to FL.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Jr5Lq)

91 "80 How much can Mush exit TX at this point? He has yuuuge investments made/planned, right? Anyone think he'll abandon the state? Or possibly he assumes things won't get that bad, and that the fabled (and mostly mythical) "pendulum swing" will mitigate the idiocy in a few years?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (U/Byj)"

If he doesn't have solid plans to bail from the whole US already then he's either being stupid, or has decided to just throw in the towel past a certain point. I don't think he is stupid.

Posted by: heya at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Km6p/)

92 Wait, hold up, is the left admitting now that the Rosenbergs were actual traitors? They are letting the truth slip out? Because according to all their propaganda, including the play Angels in America, the Rosenbergs were innocent martyrs.

It would be amusing to ask a lefty to describe the Venona Files.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (Riz8t)

93 2nd look at the Gremlin?

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (wVcYX)

94 >>Yeah it’s not like Elon can just move to a new state tomorrow. He’s made a lot of investments in Texas and you can’t just pack up a factory and move it in a week.

I think he’s stuck there for the foreseeable future.

Wonder if he's now ready to recognize the connection between immigration and election results?

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (rOKnE)

95 Ford EVs are pieces of shit. Their ICE vehicles are shit. No mechanics. No parts. Constant recalls. They are covering themselves in glory.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:22 AM (enNUy)

96
69 To be fair....Ol' Sloppy 'Gina announced she would be placing new taxes on Musk's production facilities like the Gigafactory.”

A Texas governor does not have the power to impose taxes by decree. Her supporters are going to be disappointed at how little she’s able to accomplish.

And now I’m back to thanking the authors of the 1876 constitution for making the Texas Governor one of the weakest Governor’s positions in the country.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 09, 2026 11:23 AM (dJgiD)

97 Well, Ford is now building the "Fathom," a new electric truck that will undoubtedly be a piece of sh*t.

It's like they are actively trying to destroy shareholder value.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Fathom= 6 feet under

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 09, 2026 11:23 AM (MDua2)

98 The Cybertruck sold pretty well, for what it actually was, a statement car. Something you buy to say, loudly, "Look at me!"

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (yky4J)

99 >>It would be amusing to ask a lefty to describe the Venona Files.

"Totally overhyped Netflix show!"

Posted by: Lizzy at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (rOKnE)

100 I logged onto ConsumerReports this morning and saw something that I hadn't really thought about and it's-

Pick-up Trucks definitely played a part in the Republicans losing Texas.

There was a list of the ICE vehicles which cost the most to fill up and of course pick-ups were in the mix at the top.

Texas is loaded with pick-ups. Whether in the country for work or in town for driving to college, they are everywhere.

Absolutel, people who were paying $140+ to fill-up were pissed off.

and understandably even if stupidly voted in the Democrats.

Just wait till the Democrats start workin' their mojo, trucktards.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (YSUhf)

101 always have to call something out because it is always overlooked: almost noooooobody except a small handul of cat ladies in chevy bolts has a EV as their only vehicle. Sure, many daily drive their EV, but it's not their only vehicle.

Well, I suppose a few people do the two Tesla household.

—

A family a few houses down from me has a Rivian and a Tesla, nothing else.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (JQfkC)

102 81 77 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

What about them? They’re everywhere now.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM

How are they practically and economically viable?
Short distance trips and recharged every night?
Subsidized?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

103 This sort of reminds me of the last Indiana Jones movie.

The backdrop is "the red scare" and how mean America is being to leftwing people who mostly definitely are not Soviet spies/symps.

Then the action starts and its commie agents in America trying to steal American knowledge/relics.

The movie overall sucked but in this plot point it was schizophrenic.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (sKqQm)

104 Ford CEO is shit. Way to kill a company completely dead.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:25 AM (enNUy)

105
I always thought they were ugly
Posted by: NCKate

=================

I think that was deliberate. Sure, "sleek, modern" blah-di-blah, but Elon's designers evidently worked from this Duchampian philosophy of design that's downright hostile to beauty. It spits at you and then dares you to wipe off your face. It's the vehicle you design when you are artistically drained, completely out of ideas. The Empty Corridor writing passage.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:25 AM (XJ22o)

106 It would be amusing to ask a lefty to describe the Venona Files.
Posted by: Archimedes

I asked my shitlib aunt about this. She had no idea wtf I was talking about. Then said that's not true. Typical left wing tard.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 11:25 AM (SN8r1)

107 announcing they’ve taken deposits for more than 150k “reservations.” Unfortunately, pre-orders and reservations have a poor track record of converting into actual sales."

No kidding.

I hear online gambling is a thing, too.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (pfXMo)

108 They'll all be off the road once the batteries die. I think I did see once somebody put an engine in a cybertruck.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (n5tGW)

109 Tom Servo thanks for that reminder, TX is set up quite differently than most states. So I'm hoping the Senate there will fill the role of Trump's veto on the national level - likely able to block at least the most idiotic and pernicious crap. Hoping those RGV sheriffs stick with their 287gs. I suppose no prospect of the brazen violation of state law by Houston and soon other cities on ICE cooperation will be prosecuted by the incoming garbage governor and AG.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (U/Byj)

110
I asked my shitlib aunt about this. She had no idea wtf I was talking about. Then said that's not true. Typical left wing tard.

Lefties live in weird bubbles where anything that would cause issues for their world view is carefully removed.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (sKqQm)

111 My neighbor was all gung-ho on the EV stuff, and a few years ago ordered a hybrid pick-up truck. He was told the wait was 6 months. Then it was 12 months. Then it was 18 months, so he got tired of waiting and bought a plain old gas Tundra. No matter how good something sounds, if you don't deliver, the customer goes elsewhere.

Which, by the way, is why Communists want to restrict your options. As my old professor used to say, you'll eat potatoes and like it.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (QaH55)

112 It doesn't look very truck-y

I think that was one problem

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (ZxPkt)

113 I look at a Cybertruck and wonder what the body shop charges to fix a minor fender bender.

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Jr5Lq)

114 Most folks driving those EVs around think, "look at me! look at me! I'm so cool! look at meeeee!

Most folks seeing some asshat driving an EV around think, "look at that dumbass! look at that dumbass! What an asshole! look at that dumbass!".

Posted by: Joe Q Public at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (ett92)

115 My data center comment was Willowed. Shorter answer:

I don't mind data centers. But people, and the water, natural, and energy resources they need to live, have to come first. It's beyond gross that our "betters," instead of respecting citizens asking legit, rational, probing questions about building massive tech energy sucks the size of Manhattan, are instead calling those America citizens Chinese psyops.

They are too enamored by the dollar signs. It's been disgusting to see. And the fear porn about "but China!" turns me off.

And no, not all deserts are useless wastelands. Especially the ones by the Great Salt Lake.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (Toos7)

116 You can't do that with a cybertruck right?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:04 AM (sKqQm)

It has a bed with a sliding cover. As a truck, it is about as useful as a big-block El Camino. As a ride, it's kind of cool. And I am no EV fanboi, at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:27 AM (yky4J)

117
~~Ford has a better idea.~~

~~Quality is Job #1.~~

Face it, you fucked up. You trusted us.

- - Ford ad campaigns

Posted by: Count de Monet at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (wVcYX)

118 The world needed an electric mustang. Thanks Ford.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (enNUy)

119 How are they practically and economically viable?
Short distance trips and recharged every night?
Subsidized?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

They’re perfect for local deliveries. The typical Amazon truck stays within a small footprint. They’re driving block to block not hundreds of miles between cities. Charge overnight, use during the day.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (JQfkC)

120 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans."

Delivery vehicle not delivering = not making money.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:28 AM (pfXMo)

121 All you need to know about why Tesla is discontinuing the Cybertruck:

https://tinyurl.com/mwu6jp26

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (QNSrI)

122 I can think of two reasons for producing yet another version of electric trucks, and EVs in general.
1 - A hedge against Democrat investigations and political proctology exams. Having EVs in the lineup proves they're all aboard with green energy transformations of the world, even though they understand the lack of practicality.
2 - Some executives really believe they are going to change the world, usher in the clean electric future when the weather is never bad. The first products just weren't quite right for the public but this time they'll get it right.

Posted by: George V at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (g6ahB)

123 RIP, ugly truckling.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (+9wcF)

124
The Cybertruck sold pretty well, for what it actually was, a statement car. Something you buy to say, loudly, "Look at me!"
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

================

I see several of them every time I go out here in smooth, sunny SoCal. Like, what was your need?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (XJ22o)

125 I suppose no prospect of the brazen violation of state law by Houston and soon other cities on ICE cooperation will be prosecuted by the incoming garbage governor and AG.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:26 AM (U/Byj)

That's really within the power of local DAs in TX. But that's not much consolation, given the political affiliations of most urban and border areas.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (HFrEr)

126 Trucky isn't a word!

Truckish. It doesn't look truckish.

Posted by: Don Black at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (ZxPkt)

127 My local AMZ driver drives around with her doors open and a phone in one hand 24-7 including when she is driving.

But in fairness none of my stuff has arrived damaged and it has all arrived.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (sKqQm)

128 a few years ago ordered a hybrid pick-up truck. He was told the wait was 6 months. Then it was 12 months. Then it was 18 months"

Scout? As in VW...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (pfXMo)

129 How much can Mush exit TX at this point? He has yuuuge investments made/planned, right? Anyone think he'll abandon the state? Or possibly he assumes things won't get that bad, and that the fabled (and mostly mythical) "pendulum swing" will mitigate the idiocy in a few years?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (U/Byj)

He's probably going to try to stick it out. BUT, he and his family better have go-bags packed and ready.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (g8Ew8)

130 How are they practically and economically viable?
Short distance trips and recharged every night?
Subsidized?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:24 AM (2Ez/1)

Using electric vehicles for that sort of application makes sense. I'll bet that the costs aren't out of line with conventional ICE delivery vans.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (k5CNB)

131 Get in line for a Speedwagon:

https://reotrucks.com/

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (2Ez/1)

132 How many H1Bs in TX is Elon responsible for?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (enNUy)

133 Texas is loaded with pick-ups. Whether in the country for work or in town for driving to college, they are everywhere.

Absolutel, people who were paying $140+ to fill-up were pissed off.

and understandably even if stupidly voted in the Democrats.

Just wait till the Democrats start workin' their mojo, trucktards.
Posted by: naturalfake

Only people who were paying $140+ to fill up were driving diesels. I drive daily and fill up 3x a week. Never over $70 at one fill up.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (dylrg)

134
2 - Some executives really believe they are going to change the world, usher in the clean electric future when the weather is never bad. The first products just weren't quite right for the public but this time they'll get it right.
Posted by: George V

===================

This is the right amount of stupid in all dimensions for accounting for the existence of fleets of EVs. Note especially, "We just have to get the right vehicles in there" and "We just have to get the right weather in there." Familiar variations on the eternal socialist lament of getting the right people in there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (XJ22o)

135 I can think of two reasons for producing yet another version of electric trucks, and EVs in general.
1 - A hedge against Democrat investigations and political proctology exams. Having EVs in the lineup proves they're all aboard with green energy transformations of the world, even though they understand the lack of practicality.

2 - Some executives really believe they are going to change the world, usher in the clean electric future when the weather is never bad. The first products just weren't quite right for the public but this time they'll get it right.
Posted by: George V at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (g6ahB)

Annny time now . . . .

Posted by: Segway at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (wVcYX)

136 NIMBY is a perfectly legit approach to data centers, just as it is for refineries. Expecting different results from the exercise would be idiotic of course. Darwin awards aren't just for guys attaching weather balloons to lounge chairs.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (U/Byj)

137 I saw a lime green Tesla truck in line at the carwash yesterday. If you think the silver ones are ugly . . .

Posted by: bluebell at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (uyuYG)

138 OT: I read a new one today.
Someone commented that Aisha wasn't nine when Mo (who was in his 50s) had his way with her, she had her first period 9 years earlier...
Yeah, that's how normal people measure age... From when they had their first period. I guess I'm still zero.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (l3cgK)

139 How are they practically and economically viable?"

They aren't. Take a look at the "temporary holiday" Amazon fleet.

They're not 'lectric

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (pfXMo)

140 Company/FY2025 H-1B approvals

Tesla/1,091

SpaceX/21

Neuralink/11

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:33 AM (sKqQm)

141 Tom Servo thanks for that reminder, TX is set up quite differently than most states. So I'm hoping the Senate there will fill the role of Trump's veto on the national level - likely able to block at least the most idiotic and pernicious crap. Hoping those RGV sheriffs stick with their 287gs. I suppose no prospect of the brazen violation of state law by Houston and soon other cities on ICE cooperation will be prosecuted by the incoming garbage governor and AG.
--
Yeah, she's lying about what all she can do.
It's always been known that the TX gov is one of the weakest govs in the nation.
But their LIVs don't know that.
And the legislature meeting once every 2 years is deliberate. It was always a slog getting even R priorities with majority in favor through both chambers in time.
So she calls a special session--that's literally the only power she has; but it can only consider named reasons, not general bills.
And the senate gavels in and votes down the bill and gavels out.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:33 AM (Cw3N8)

142 If Slate can meet th $25K announced base price point (BIG if) there might be a market.
Projected 150 mi range (but probably a lot less running the AC) might make sense for a lot of urban and suburban businesses.Maybe.

Posted by: Peter B at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (jZmn5)

143 I can own three F150s and a Toyota for what a cybertruck goes for, oh,,,wait.

Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (0LlxY)

144 >>If he doesn't have solid plans to bail from the whole US already then he's either being stupid, or has decided to just throw in the towel past a certain point. I don't think he is stupid.

And go where?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

145 Scout headquarters is here in Charlotte I think. Way to ruin another icon by going all electric.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (enNUy)

146
I dunno, we have LOTS of them around here. Maybe they especially appealed to military and veterans. (Also loads of other Teslas, too.)
Posted by: GWB at November 09, 2026 11:10 AM (kU0PQ)

When Chocolate Fonzie was running things, they built a bunch of solar charging stations on bases and National Guard posts, including my local ANG post less than a mile from my shop. Two big motorized solar panels that are hooked up to 4 parking spots. If ever there was a parking spot that screamed "Commanding Officer and Staff only"...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (iqcvy)

147 Actually, 73,000 Cyber Trucks is 73,000 more than I thought they would sell. Even if somebody wanted an electric truck, the Cyber Truck is just too weird to be useful.

Posted by: Ralph at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (8WZD4)

148 One thing I’ve heard is that now Texas border will be thrown wide open. But CA’s deep blue and the border there is white right? Arizona has a Dem governor border is edited there as well. So how would a blue Texas affect the border in that way? The border is controlled by the Feds.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (JQfkC)

149 >>If he doesn't have solid plans to bail from the whole US already then he's either being stupid, or has decided to just throw in the towel past a certain point. I don't think he is stupid.

And go where?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:34 AM (viF8m)

Mars ain't the kind of place to raise your kids . . .

Posted by: Count de Monet has opinions at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (wVcYX)

150 But I did laugh at the folks trying to make a go at making them functional.

Like, saw one dude hauling a refrigerator in the back.

Looked as natural as strapping a fridge to the back of a Pinto.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:07 AM (Cw3N

Musk should have built an EV station wagon with a sliding roof, like this Studebaker Wagonaire. I have owned several of them. And yes, I did haul a fridge in one of them. And a welding outfit, standing upright.

https://tinyurl.com/bde9cwwd

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (yky4J)

151 Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:31 AM (enNUy)

Your hash properly belongs to me.

Posted by: Henri, le Chat Noir at November 09, 2026 11:35 AM (+IsEU)

152 Take a look at the "temporary holiday" Amazon fleet.

They're not 'lectric

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:32 AM (pfXMo)

Because volume doubles for a month or so around Christmas! It would be insane to purchase peak capacity rather than rent for the short time the extra trucks are needed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (k5CNB)

153 >>> Yes they are. Everything is tactical and today with them since yesterday can be erased.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2026 11:19 AM (2GVsD)

It's very "we've always been at war with Eastasia!" of them, that's for sure.

The Rosenbergs were also Jewish, and in the modern, rapidly antisemitic DSA DNC, that means they are expendable.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (Toos7)

154 And go where? /i]

Yep...

The EU is farther long the gay communism route

China would destroy him and take his companies

Russia? He'd get to keep his companies though the EU would steal everything they could get their hands on and he'd have to do whatever Putin wanted

Japan? Hmm...maybe?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (sKqQm)

155 One of our sons flirted with buying a Rivian cyber truck recently because the cost of gas was burning his cash and his 2019 Chevy has 200,000+ miles on it.

It started out pretty well. He kept a eye on the charge level and stopped for a charge just about any time he saw a charger if he was near half charge.

Then he found himself in Flatonia, Tx, after dark, sitting at the only charger in town with a couple of cars ahead of him. Got home near midnight and gave it back the next day.

Posted by: DanMan at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (8uzBS)

156 If Slate can meet th $25K announced base price point"

A somewhat well known influencer (James May) did a bit on them recently. Both he and his assistant spec'ed one out. The assistant's was around $34k, iirc...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:37 AM (pfXMo)

157 Scout? As in VW...
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (pfXMo)

IIRC, it was the Ford Lightning.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 09, 2026 11:38 AM (QaH55)

158 >>Yep...

>>The EU is farther long the gay communism route

That's one thing I haven't seen discussed much as we discuss the recent election. The same leftward lurch has been happening around the world. The EU is further along the path, starting to see some inevitable early stage pushback, but the problem with always running from leftists is you eventually run out of places to go. And we have.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:38 AM (viF8m)

159 Scott Galloway is the dumbest academic I've seen something from.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e)

160 Border is fed and is in pretty good shape from end to end. But TX is by far the largest and most complicated border sector. TX's full-on support to and coordination with BP and ICE have been a big factor in securing the TX border. Force multiplier, and force-augmenting. I think all border sheriffs save El Paso have 287gs and are standing by them - this is another force multiplier for ICE.

States can't interfered with feds securing actual border/controlling entry, but they can help/hurt in terms of switching off/on the magnets of lax internal enforcement/"benefits" etc that affect the behavior of intending invaders.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (U/Byj)

161 I've heard Elon is phasing down the cyber truck to make a larger push for electric taxis? He sees more profit there?

We need to bring back taxis that are distinctly iconic, like the big yellow taxis of the 70s but cooler. Maybe he will be inspired by the taxis in Fifth Element.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Toos7)

162 Because volume doubles for a month or so around Christmas"

So? The point is that outside of Amazon's fleet, there just isn't a mass quantity of EVans. They're just not fiscally practical.

How much is Amazon pissing away on them, anyway?

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (pfXMo)

163 Is electric taxi a good business model? The whole reason Uber exploded is the taxi monopoly were gouging people and the taxi companies have been pushing back in a bunch of big cities

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (sKqQm)

164 Then he found himself in Flatonia, Tx, after dark, sitting at the only charger in town with a couple of cars ahead of him. Got home near midnight and gave it back the next day.
Posted by: DanMan at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (8uzBS)

As long as you're in DFW, Rivian, etc can work very well. Lots of fast chargers around.

But, Texas is BIG, baby, and if you're outside of DFW on the road, you better be planning and paying close attention. Cuz charge stations are not like gas stations.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (YSUhf)

165 And go where?

Get your ass to Mars.

Posted by: Hauser at November 09, 2026 11:40 AM (+IsEU)

166 And go where? /i]

Yep...

The EU is farther long the gay communism route

China would destroy him and take his companies

Russia? He'd get to keep his companies though the EU would steal everything they could get their hands on and he'd have to do whatever Putin wanted

Japan? Hmm...maybe?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (sKqQm)

French Guyana. France already has a rocket launch facility there. Make France an offer they can't refuse. Hell, he could probably buy the whole country now.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (g8Ew8)

167 IIRC, it was the Ford Lightning."

Not hybrid...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (pfXMo)

168 But, Texas is BIG, baby, and if you're outside of DFW on the road, you better be planning and paying close attention. Cuz charge stations are not like gas stations.

I've seen EV users argue long distance driving isn't a big deal because of course you can wait a few hours at a road stop to recharge wherever and whenever you want to go

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (sKqQm)

169 The Rosenbergs were also Jewish, and in the modern, rapidly antisemitic DSA DNC, that means they are expendable.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:36 AM (Toos7)

Julius was a committed communist from an early age, and Ethel was a hard-core socialist. In my book, that makes them anti-Semites!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (k5CNB)

170 I see enough cybertrucks here, (Colorado Front range) that I thought they had buyers. Of course the cybertrucks stand out so I notice every one, vs the F150s being so common I hardly notice them.

My big change was getting a gas 350 after driving a diesel for over 20 years. I drive the pickup just once or twice a week, usually towing a moderate load, but sometimes towing the heavy gooseneck trailer when I'm going to camp somewhere. I wanted the godzilla gas engine because of that occasional heavy towing, but I'm not towing heavy construction equipment every day where I need a diesel and the EPA has made diesels so much worse now then twenty year ago before they mandated DEF and other crap.

Posted by: PaleRider at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (PV+Zw)

171
Well, Ford is now building the "Fathom," a new electric truck that will undoubtedly be a piece of sh*t.

It's like they are actively trying to destroy shareholder value.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

================

Generals prepping for the previous war.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (XJ22o)

172 All Amazon local delivery trucks I see around me are electric now. The changeover was sometime during the summer.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (JQfkC)

173 Refineries cause oil cancer.

Everybody in Delaware got it.

That was what the last Democrat president told us, it doesn't sound like he had proof though, but he was a Dem, so they don't print "without proof" about Dems.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (Fi81e)

174 I've seen EV users argue long distance driving isn't a big deal because of course you can wait a few hours at a road stop to recharge wherever and whenever you want to go

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (sKqQm)

I consider the day to be a huge failure if I spend more than five minutes refueling.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (k5CNB)

175 Didn't all the TX border counties going blue usher in a Dem president in 2028 more than likely? Do they remember all the illegals pouring into their counties? Apparently gas is too high.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:43 AM (enNUy)

176 159 Scott Galloway is the dumbest academic I've seen something from.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e

He's taking a dump on his laptop to own you and your pixels right now. Pray he does not dump harder.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (HFrEr)

177 Would we even have to worry about Russia in Ukraine had it not been for people like the Rosenbergs?

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (Fi81e)

178 One thing I’ve heard is that now Texas border will be thrown wide open. But CA’s deep blue and the border there is white right? Arizona has a Dem governor border is edited there as well. So how would a blue Texas affect the border in that way? The border is controlled by the Feds.
--
All the TX border sheriffs have signed coop agreements with ICE.
Many of them are Dems.
Who endorsed Abbott and/or Paxton.

Unfortunately, the 287g agreement can be terminated at will.
And the AG--now a Dem--is the only entity that can enforce SB 8 that required them to sign it.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (Cw3N8)

179 167 IIRC, it was the Ford Lightning."

Not hybrid...
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:41 AM (pfXMo)

I don't know then. I'm lucky I know what I did last week, let alone my neighbor years ago.

One of my old bosses had a hound she named Lightning. Laziest dog alive.

Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (QaH55)

180 All Amazon local delivery trucks I see around me are electric now"

The ones from our neighborhood center are, but the longer range ones are gas...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (pfXMo)

181 >> Is electric taxi a good business model? The whole reason Uber exploded is the taxi monopoly were gouging people and the taxi companies have been pushing back in a bunch of big cities

I think that's one market they do make sense, taxi fleets in big cities. The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (viF8m)

182 And go where? /i]

French Guyana. France already has a rocket launch facility there. Make France an offer they can't refuse. Hell, he could probably buy the whole country now.

Yeah, it's not as nice as you think.

Posted by: Papillon at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (Riz8t)

183 Thx Buck
Gee I just saw my first Cybertruck in my city last week. Always get a kick out of seeing high end things like that, Porsche, Ferrari's or Lamborghini around this area. Potholes and winter don't play well with such vehicles

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (FroOw)

184 Scott Galloway is the dumbest academic I've seen something from.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Fi81e

He's taking a dump on his laptop to own you and your pixels right now. Pray he does not dump harder.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:44 AM (HFrEr)
---
No, the dump is mainly a marketing ploy. Like when he's selling a car.

Genius!

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (Fi81e)

185 One of my last trips I had just over 100 mile range left (my ICE car has about 400 mile range overall) when I saw a gas station. I decided not to pull in because it was on the wrong side of the road and I'd have plenty of time to fill up.

The next gas station was....80 miles further down the road.

Once you get out into the sticks the world is a different place. Didn't see an EV chargers in the last half of that trip either

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (sKqQm)

186 Now do the Amazon electric delivery vans.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:18 AM (2Ez/1)

I never hear the Greenies complain about the building-sized flatscreen TVs bright enough to see for miles in broad daylight that they use for billboards nowadays, either.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (Hgt7l)

187 Cyber trucks have grown on me. I kinda like the futuristic Mars vehicle look.

There’s a barney purple one down the street from me.

Posted by: nurse ratched. at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (R+jVn)

188 It's strange that there is nowhere you can go where the money is not debauched, government debt is not gobbling up private sector productivity gains and individual rights are not eroding. It's like we already have one world government. Even Switzerland is being dragged into alignment with Ursula von der Leyen and the EU.

Maybe China?

Posted by: Oglebay at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (2ap+5)

189 I never hear the Greenies complain about the building-sized flatscreen TVs bright enough to see for miles in broad daylight that they use for billboards nowadays, either.

Of course those same greenies usually have a couple of giant flatscreens at home themselves...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (sKqQm)

190
I've seen EV users argue long distance driving isn't a big deal because of course you can wait a few hours at a road stop to recharge wherever and whenever you want to go

Posted by: 18-1

==================

Tsshh. We had some socially attuned visitors from the UK who earth-awarely rented an EV to drive around SoCal. They had to spend precious hours on beautiful sunny days idling on inland blacktop lots charging their stupid car. They regretted it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:46 AM (XJ22o)

191 On the topic of Tesla, I have seen multiple bumper stickers denouncing Elon as if to assure other people that they are the good ones.

Kind of like smearing the blood of a lamb on your threshold so the Angel of Woke passes over you.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (RjOoY)

192 I see several of them every time I go out here in smooth, sunny SoCal. Like, what was your need?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:29 AM (XJ22o)

What was the need for the Plymouth Superbird? They sold enough of them to homologate them for NASCAR racing. Could have sold a lot more.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (yky4J)

193 Most ev owners charge at home. Thats the selling point. For someone who has a 10-15 mile commute to work - which the typical driver - they’d literally never have to use a charging station.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (JQfkC)

194 Galloway: Between suggesting that there are laws for treason to a country called "The West" to taking a dump in a car before you sell it, can this guy say something that doesn't sound dumb?

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:47 AM (Fi81e)

195 176 Ha!

Posted by: gp at November 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Jr5Lq)

196 >>> Julius was a committed communist from an early age, and Ethel was a hard-core socialist. In my book, that makes them anti-Semites!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 09, 2026 11:42 AM (k5CNB)

For sure.

I thought the miniseries Angels in America was meh at best, but Meryl Streep's portrayal of Ethel was beyond insufferable. She played smug commie very well...hardly an acting stretch.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Toos7)

197 https://reotrucks.com/
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 09, 2026 11:30 AM (2Ez/1)

My Tucker Torpedo will be delivered any day now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:49 AM (yky4J)

198 I know this is unoriginal but the cybertruck looks to me like it's straight out of the Twisted Metal series on ps1.

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 11:49 AM (RZ+Ww)

199 I thought the miniseries Angels in America was meh at best, but Meryl Streep's portrayal of Ethel was beyond insufferable. She played smug commie very well...hardly an acting stretch.

Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:48 AM (Toos7)
---
Harvey Weinstein was/is her hero.

Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (Fi81e)

200 Another note on Hispanics:
Why is Javier Mille and Bukele so popular in South America?They are selling what Democrats can't and Republicans won't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

So what is it they are selling?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (3AwA+)

201 I don't see a mass market for anything right now. Except for debt.

Posted by: Case at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (En+fz)

202 175 Didn't all the TX border counties going blue usher in a Dem president in 2028 more than likely? Do they remember all the illegals pouring into their counties? Apparently gas is too high.
Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:43 AM (enNUy

Hard to say.

If the GOP had turned up at presidential election levels or near them like the Dems did, the GOP would have won the midterms in TX.

Can Dems manage increased turnout two elections in a row? Lots of variables there.

Can the GOP get its act together and get out the vote better than usual?

Personally, I've seen too many "the emerging (insert party here)" stories after prior elections.

Maybe I'm an optimist, but I think 2028 is likely to be decided somewhere other than TX.

We don't even know what terrible presidential options will be on the table yet.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (HFrEr)

203
What was the need for the Plymouth Superbird? They sold enough of them to homologate them for NASCAR racing. Could have sold a lot more.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

===============

You've got a point. It's not always about need. In fact when it comes to fashion, close to never.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (XJ22o)

204 My brother once met Meryl Streep. He said she was very nice in person.

But her politics stink.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (77rzZ)

205
We need to bring back taxis that are distinctly iconic, like the big yellow taxis of the 70s but cooler. Maybe he will be inspired by the taxis in Fifth Element.
Posted by: LizLem at November 09, 2026 11:39 AM (Toos7)

Which were based on comics from Moebius via Heavy Metal. In any case, the only French contribution to Western Civilization in the past 200+ years that's been worth a damn.

Other than overpriced wine, weird but delicious food, Sophie Marceau and Catherine Deneuve, of course.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 11:51 AM (iqcvy)

206 Meryl Streep played a perfect Hillary Clinton in "The Giver".

Probably didn't realize she was doing it

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 11:52 AM (sKqQm)

207 Secretary Pete is in town at the Naval War College and smacking the civilian teach corps upside the head for trying to ignore his orders and insert liberal policy instead of his.

I expect same rage tweeting from Tom Nichols, The Expert, to commence soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:52 AM (viF8m)

208 Tesla pickups? I'm not going to pay that much for something that looks like a pile of junk metal. A pile of junk metal that could catch fire too.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 09, 2026 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)

209 The next gas station was....80 miles further down the road.

Once you get out into the sticks the world is a different place. Didn't see an EV chargers in the last half of that trip either
Posted by: 18-1

Only 730 miles to go! You can hold it!

Posted by: Buc-ee's

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:54 AM (dylrg)

210 Other than overpriced wine, weird but delicious food, Sophie Marceau and Catherine Deneuve, of course.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur

Brigitte Bardot, Claudia Cardinale, Juliet Binoche, Mathilda May...

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 11:54 AM (77rzZ)

211 We like to joke about the obvious mental illness of people like Galloway, but now I am starting to think we need to more actively shame them, even drive them from public life.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 09, 2026 11:54 AM (oe+PA)

212
I think that's one market they do make sense, taxi fleets in big cities. The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night.

The electric forklift model.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (Cqx++)

213 Took an uber to the airport: $45. On my return took a yellow cab same route back: $135.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (enNUy)

214 bear w/a.b., of course hope you're right about TX in next presidential cycle. Obviously if TX becomes a "battleground" to any extent the electoral map instantly becomes much more challenging.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (U/Byj)

215 For those who didn't see this on the ONT:

DeSantis continues to show he is politically astute.

https://tinyurl.com/ys9y22ac

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:55 AM (Riz8t)

216 "As a percentage of the light vehicle marketplace, it’s not a huge niche, but it still represents a lot of car buyers, and Tesla dominates it."

The best-selling EV brand in the world isn't Tesla. It's the Chinese company BYD. And it's not even close. And this despite BYD not selling anything in the yuge American market.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 09, 2026 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

217 After WW 2 me 'ol man remained in the Navy on submarines. While in Key West, he and a few buddies took the electric motors from a couple of torpedoes and, after pulling the engine from an old Model T, put in the electric ones. He said they could get about a hundred miles on a charge. Great fun!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 09, 2026 11:56 AM (2WIwB)

218 The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night."

'cause no one ever uses a taxi at night...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 11:56 AM (pfXMo)

219 I think that's one market they do make sense, taxi fleets in big cities. The rides are relatively short and stay in known service area. Run them all day on a charge and charge them over night.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:45 AM (viF8m)

Electric fleet vehicles, like taxis and delivery vans, would benefit greatly from having swappable battery packs. Drive into the depot, chunk, chunk, the depleted battery is slid out and a fully-charged one is slid in. Faster than the driver could snag a cup of coffee.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 11:57 AM (yky4J)

220 Here is the speciation.that you have to beat.

Pull 2tons on a trailer, one ton in the bed at 70 mph for 500 miles then be refueled and back on the road in 20 minutes or less

Posted by: Kittens! at November 09, 2026 11:57 AM (LOZbR)

221 There's so much rot to clean up, service academies and war colleges of course included. Two more years. If there isn't a GOP prez in 2029, the most animated apocalyptic forecasts of "doom" may prove reasonable.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (U/Byj)

222 I don't see a mass market for anything right now. Except for debt.
Posted by: Case
---------
Historically, it has been a growth market.

Posted by: scampydog at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (2bFN5)

223 >>'cause no one ever uses a taxi at night...

Yes, I was being simplistic, obviously. Split the fleet around usage time.

Not difficult.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (viF8m)

224 LOL.
I'll take one of those flying cars though!

Posted by: Esperman at November 09, 2026 11:58 AM (rYCo6)

225 Whistlin Diesel did a video showing how bad the tow package was, literally not connected to the frame at all and could pull out very easily. The truck was all style but none of the toughness a used truck already had.

Posted by: Drunken Yoda at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (YjktB)

226 After WW 2 me 'ol man remained in the Navy on submarines. While in Key West, he and a few buddies took the electric motors from a couple of torpedoes and, after pulling the engine from an old Model T, put in the electric ones. He said they could get about a hundred miles on a charge. Great fun!
Posted by: Diogenes

As long as they didn't hit something. (Boom)

(I know. I know. Cheap joke)

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (dylrg)

227 Another note on Hispanics:
Why is Javier Mille and Bukele so popular in South America?They are selling what Democrats can't and Republicans won't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

So what is it they are selling?
--
Cut corruption.
Protect the people, not the criminals.
Increase freedom.

But what I also mean is, they are selling their message to people far more down the road and far more used to socialism.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (Cw3N8)

228 >>@visegrad24
BREAKING:

>>France’s intelligence agencies have discovered that Iran was behind the cyberattacks against French grocery stores during which freezers and fridges had their temperatures increased up to 50C.

>>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (viF8m)

229 And go where?

JOB OPENINGS: NASA Is Looking for Astronauts to Live and Work on the Moon.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4n4czr

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (Riz8t)

230 It's the Chinese company BYD."

In markets mandating EVs...

Oh, wait. Did I say "mandate"? How gauche of me. There's no mandates. At all.

Just common sense regulation of fossile fuel burning, oil consuming, unnecessary vehicles. Otherwise known as "the nudge"

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:00 PM (pfXMo)

231 >>France’s intelligence agencies have discovered that Iran was behind the cyberattacks against French grocery stores during which freezers and fridges had their temperatures increased up to 50C.

>>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (viF8m)
----
Hopefully something stronger than, "Go away or I shall taunt you a second time!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (s2iZv)

232 If a Dem wins in ‘28 and have a solid majority in the house and senate it’s over.

They’ll pack the courts, make pr and dc states, nationalize health care. It truly will be the end of America.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (JQfkC)

233 Split the fleet around usage time."

So, 1/3 more "fleet" required?

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (pfXMo)

234
Harvey Weinstein was/is her hero.
Posted by: Axeman at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (Fi81e)

Longtime Hollywood rumor was that both her and Judy Densch pimped out starlets and aspiring actresses to Harvey. The evidence against Streep was pretty damning, but against Densch, less so.

Always thought that Streep was a weirdo whose acting career was based on her ability with accents (I used to call her "Rich Little with tits")

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (iqcvy)

235 200 Another note on Hispanics:
Why is Javier Mille and Bukele so popular in South America?They are selling what Democrats can't and Republicans won't.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

So what is it they are selling?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 09, 2026 11:50 AM (3AwA+)

Milei was only possible after a serious fiscal crisis and hyperinflation and his political position isn't that strong. Argentina is also a lot less Hispanic than most of latin america.

Bukele isn't actually that right wing and is popular for dealing with a massive crime/gang problem.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (okun6)

236 Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:01 PM (JQfkC)

237 There's so much rot to clean up, service academies and war colleges of course included. Two more years. If there isn't a GOP prez in 2029, the most animated apocalyptic forecasts of "doom" may prove reasonable.
Posted by: rhomboid

I honestly fear we have crossed the Rubicon. Anything after 2026 will be too late.
We've already passed Let It Burn.
Now it's Make It Burn.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:02 PM (dylrg)

238 @228 uh-oh the French are going to fart in the Iranians general direction

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 12:02 PM (FroOw)

239 would benefit greatly from having swappable battery packs."

That's one of those genuinely good ideas that run headfirst into reality.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (pfXMo)

240 >>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it

They will fart in Iran's general direction.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (vTZFs)

241 America ended in March of 2008 when we knew the choice would be McCain, Hillary, or Obama. And honestly before that because the other choice was Romney. That was America's four choices. What does that tell you about our "movement".

Posted by: ... at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (RZ+Ww)

242 >>Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM

Sure, Jean...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (bFu5X)

243 would benefit greatly from having swappable battery packs."

That's one of those genuinely good ideas that run headfirst into reality.
Posted by: man

I'm so old, I remember when cell phones had that capability.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (dylrg)

244 So France is going to fart in Iran's general direction?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (sKqQm)

245
Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

=================

One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

246 There's just no reason for the Cybertruck to ever have existed.

It's not really a pickup truck. The bed sucks and you can't really put much back there.
It's uglier than my dog's butthole.
It's heavy as hell and handles like an APC.
The interior is of poor quality.
It makes the driver look like a dumbass with poor taste
Have I mentioned how fuckin' ugly the damn thing is?
Expensive
All the drawbacks of an EV
Uglier than sin.

Posted by: ballistic at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (oqH4h)

247 We are already on fire.

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (enNUy)

248
I'm so old, I remember when cell phones had that capability.

We lost that for the waterproof feature.

I've never flood my phone but I have had to get a new phone because the battery is dying.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (sKqQm)

249 We will unleash wave after wave of mimes!

Posted by: Jean-No�l Barrot at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (+IsEU)

250 We shall tell Iran this is unacceptable. And if they do it again we shall tell them again but next time even louder with several frown faces.
- France

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (JQfkC)

251 245
Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

=================

One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

Weak and easy to pressure. No risk of reprisal.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM (okun6)

252 Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot says Iran will face consequences for it
Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM

Sure, Jean...

I guess Iran has solved every other problem since they're now focused on denying Parisians their Foie gras.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:06 PM (Riz8t)

253 Why exactly is every freezer on the internet in France?"

Mo'hammed ain't doing the menial labor of checking operations...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:06 PM (pfXMo)

254 The Dems in the next two years are going to be a violent, nasty trainwreck. The DSA and further left types are already fighting against Schumer and Jefferies as leaders and they aren't the types to take maneuvering against them peacefully. The old Dem coalition is fractured and the different factions are already at odds. Cool

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 09, 2026 12:06 PM (FroOw)

255 Everyone who drive a Cybertruck was beta testing a vehicle for eventual use on Mars.

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (gw3RI)

256
If a Dem wins in ‘28 and have a solid majority in the house and senate it’s over.

They’ll pack the courts, make pr and dc states, nationalize health care. It truly will be the end of America.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez

===================

Probably not supposed to mention the "CW" words around here, but I wonder...

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (XJ22o)

257 >>One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

It wasn't just France, it was a number of EU countries.

The same ones where the "students" are rioting for better pens and pencils.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (viF8m)

258 We shall tell Iran this is unacceptable. And if they do it again we shall tell them again but next time even louder with several frown faces.
- France

And if even that doesn't work, we'll lock them in an invisible box.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (Riz8t)

259 That's one of those genuinely good ideas that run headfirst into reality.
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:03 PM (pfXMo)

I know it would be a tough sell for privately-owned cars, but it ought to be perfectly practical for fleets of many like vehicles, like Amazon's delivery vans.

Current model: vehicle is unavailable for use for the hours it takes to charge the battery.

Swappable batteries: vehicle is available for use nearly 24/7.

Gas-powered taxis: vehicle is available for use nearly 24/7.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (yky4J)

260 I'm so old, I remember when cell phones had that capability."

Mine had a backup battery case that held nearly a dozen AA batteries...

Would get a solid 10 minutes use...

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:07 PM (pfXMo)

261 Didn't our military base freezers get hacked?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:08 PM (enNUy)

262 We lost that for the waterproof feature.

I've never flood my phone but I have had to get a new phone because the battery is dying.

There's data indicating that people, especially those of the OEM-equipped boobs persuasion, drop their phones in the toilet like 3 times a week. That's basically the entire reason phones had to become waterproof.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:09 PM (2ocoG)

263 but it ought to be perfectly practical for fleets of many like vehicles, like Amazon's delivery vans"

Sure, but that would require nearly a data centers' worth of infrastructure.
Just picture ... about a thousand giant battery packs, each weighing a ton or so, all charging...

The effort to stage that would be... a lot.

Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (pfXMo)

264 There are otter boxes that are water proof, right?

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (enNUy)

265 Probably not supposed to mention the "CW" words around here, but I wonder...
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

I'm starting to think Lincoln should've let the South go. Would've let the Dems have their own country, and gotten them out of the USA.

Posted by: Bulg at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (77rzZ)

266 We will unleash wave after wave of mimes!
Posted by: Jean-No�l Barrot at November 09, 2026 12:05 PM

With silencers.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (bFu5X)

267 There's a joke in there somewhere

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (enNUy)

268 New one:

Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform

Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (Riz8t)

269 There's data indicating that people, especially those of the OEM-equipped boobs persuasion, drop their phones in the toilet like 3 times a week. That's basically the entire reason phones had to become waterproof.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 09, 2026 12:09 PM (2ocoG)

That, and the underwater basket weavers needing to get patterns off the INternet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (yky4J)

270 One wonders, why France? What do the mullahs have against them?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 09, 2026 12:04 PM (XJ22o)

Weak and easy to pressure. No risk of reprisal.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Yep. Because they can.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (SN8r1)

271 America ended in March of 2008 when we knew the choice would be McCain, Hillary, or Obama. And honestly before that because the other choice was Romney. That was America's four choices. What does that tell you about our "movement".
--
"My friends, you have noting to fear from an Obama Presidency."

1) Romney would have said the same thing.
2) No Democrat would ever say the same thing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:12 PM (Cw3N8)

272 Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

Make a shitload of money.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (BI5O2)

273 Claudia Cardinale was Italian.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (wGerL)

274 Nood

Posted by: NCKate at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (enNUy)

275 We lost that for the waterproof feature.

I've never flood my phone but I have had to get a new phone because the battery is dying.
Posted by: 18-1

I've done both. And no, an iPhone 3 wasn't waterproof.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (dylrg)

276
As long as they didn't hit something. (Boom)

(I know. I know. Cheap joke)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 09, 2026 11:59 AM (dylrg)

Depends. If they pulled parts from an early to mid war Mark 14 torp it'd be Clank instead of Boom.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 12:14 PM (iqcvy)

277 Sure, but that would require nearly a data centers' worth of infrastructure.
Just picture ... about a thousand giant battery packs, each weighing a ton or so, all charging...

The effort to stage that would be... a lot.
Posted by: man at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (pfXMo)

And how much infrastructure do you need to charge a hundred Amazon delivery vans overnight at a "fullfillment center"? About the same, if not more. The battery packs could be racked eight high, and handled by forklifts, powered by the same type of battery.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (yky4J)

278 The Dems in the next two years are going to be a violent, nasty trainwreck. The DSA and further left types are already fighting against Schumer and Jefferies as leaders and they aren't the types to take maneuvering against them peacefully. The old Dem coalition is fractured and the different factions are already at odds. Cool
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One of the reasons Satan and his demons never prevail long-term is they are all a pack of snarling, rabid monsters that hate each other just as much as you or I.

And, yes, their followers on Earth are the same.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 09, 2026 12:15 PM (Cw3N8)

279
Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

Make a shitload of money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM (BI5O2)

Good luck getting your Toyota Hilux, peon.

-The Chicken Tax-

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 09, 2026 12:17 PM (iqcvy)

280 272 Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

Make a shitload of money.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 09, 2026 12:13 PM

Yoo-hoo!

Posted by: Toyota Hilux at November 09, 2026 12:19 PM (2Ez/1)

281 Ooof: Trump Says His Immigration Policy Was Too Tough, Seeks Some Kind of... Comprehensive Reform
Posted by: Archimedes at November 09, 2026 12:10 PM (Riz8t)

On election night he gave a quick phone interview to Politico. He was asked would he do a deal with democrats on immigration. He said we’ll see.

I guess we’re seeing now. The answer is yes.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (JQfkC)

282 >>>Light pickup. No frills. 4-6 cylinders. Manual transmission. Dropside bed. Done.

the very online always say they want this

extensive market research says very very few people actually would buy this

Posted by: brak at November 09, 2026 12:23 PM (gw3RI)

283 Yeah it’s not like Elon can just move to a new state tomorrow. He’s made a lot of investments in Texas and you can’t just pack up a factory and move it in a week.

I think he’s stuck there for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 09, 2026 11:21 AM (JQfkC)

Wanna bet?

Posted by: Elon The Great at November 09, 2026 12:27 PM (hmYU4)

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