Wednesday Morning Rant

Put it online, they said
It'll make things so easy, they said

This article was written before election returns came in, so this is not an election thread. You are welcome to discuss that anyway if desired, since election returns are probably the main topic of conversation

The past decade or so has seen a wild proliferation of stuff that falls into the general category often called the "Internet of Things," or IoT. These are things that do something and connect to the internet either to perform its work or to extend its functionality. IoT devices are often referred to as "smart" devices. "Smart" cameras, doorbells, TVs, locks, thermostats, switches and more all go online to function or to work to their maximum effect. This is all increasingly common and often underscores security and privacy issues or risks. Those risks are so real that it's not unreasonable to just assume that all of it is simply not secure at all, and implement or it not based on your risk appetite.

But that's in the household. IoT is not merely merely for consumer electronics and household gadgets, it's also industrial equipment, and the risk profile there is radically different. If someone hacks your "smart lock," he can wander in and rob your house. If he hacks your "smart camera" and catches something compromising, he could blackmail you. If he hacks your factory, that's a whole different story. If he hacks your supply chain management, that's a whole different story. The risk blast radius in industry is much greater than it is at the household level, and those risks are not merely hypothetical. There have been some very public incidents in Europe that demonstrate the problem, as multiple attacks on industrial IoT were targeted squarely at the food supply.

Last month, there was a coordinated attack on commercial refrigeration equipment produced by a Danish manufacturer. Most of the targets were in France, and multiple supermarkets and suppliers were exposed to major product loss as a result of their refrigerators being told to stop refrigerating. This was accomplished setting the refrigeration temperatures high or turning on the integrated defrost cycle. The machines were not off, nor were they offline - they were just set high enough to let things spoil:

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's PM programme, Alex Pearce, the managing director of fruit and vegetable supplier Langridge Organic, said he had noticed on Monday morning that two of his company's fridges were showing "abnormal temperatures and defrost settings".
"A third fridge suddenly went into a defrost mode ... At the back of my mind I thought, 'I think we're being hacked.'
"So I unplugged the cable from the wall which disconnected our fridges from the outside world."
He said the company's fridges had been set as high as 150C.
Mr Pearce said: "I reckon I caught them by luck right in the middle of it being hacked."

He was paying attention, and intervened to contain the problem. Good for him, and I hope he got a bonus. The losses across the industry reached millions of Euros, and happened due to software vulnerabilities in the equipment. This is, in part, due to a collision of the software lifecycle and the industrial equipment lifecycle:

Danfoss told AFP in a statement that most of the affected equipment was "legacy" products which "no longer receive software or security updates".
It said its AK-SM800 and AK-SC355 fridge regulator systems were notably affected, with a version of the former using "outdated firmware". It added that it had long advised supermarkets to update from those models. Danfoss gave no figures of how many systems were affected.

Commercial or industrial refrigerators are capital equipment, and can see very long service life - service life that will almost inevitably be much longer than software is typically maintained, patched and kept secure. "Update from those models" is not a very good solution for major durable goods.

Authorities in France described the attacks as "amateurish" and offered assurances that there was almost no chance a state actor was involved. That is probably true, but that also makes it worse, not better. If some unsophisticated hackers can cause a few million Euros in losses (which are food losses) literally overnight, imagine what the sophisticated ones can do - especially since it happened again this week, in a different set of countries and with a different manufacturer's equipment. Like last time, some outfits noticed right away and intervened while others suffered significant product losses. The overall scale of the more recent event was smaller, but it was the exact same style of attack: instruct the connected refrigerators to change their setpoints.

Connected industrial equipment gives a real benefit to the operator, which is why it is used and why organizations will pay for it. Centralized monitoring capability alone is probably worth it for any organization with multiple locations. Real-time status, conditions monitoring, fault detection and isolation, coordinated maintenance activities, utility cost optimization and more are all very real improvements to large-scale operations and industrial IoT makes that possible. Those very real benefits, however, come with very real risks when it comes to both failure scale (the consequences of errors can be more severe, because they are wider in scope) and external threats (hackers and similar). The convenience and optimization of industrial IoT requires rigorous change control, security-conscious infrastructure design and strict security process control. Many places - and manufacturers - embrace the former and skimp on the latter. Control surfaces are directly connected to the internet, updates don't get applied, change control is lackadaisical, corporate infrastructure security is poor, etc. Fixing those things not only reduces operational convenience, it increases cost - though probably not more than major equipment failures.

These have been comparatively little incidents and were not disasters. They were loss-making inconveniences, but the scope of these attacks has been thankfully limited. These small-scale incidents, however, highlight a major risk. More than a decade ago, someone once put to me as, "our only hope is that the Internet of incompatible Things collapses under its own weight before the Internet of insecure Things gets us all killed." Engineers have largely solved the compatibility problems, because that's what engineers do. The security problems, however, must be dealt with before little incidents like these refrigeration attacks are seen merely as contextual footnotes in the history of industrial IoT disasters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 10:57 AM

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1 Fist!

Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 10:58 AM (svLOV)

2 heh. Never mind that typo. Carry on.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 10:58 AM (svLOV)

3 My money is on the dumbasses just plugged them and left the default login of user:admin pw:blank

But they were hacked by super smart people using P2PShell just sounds just so much cooler to print in the paper.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 11:00 AM (lLeLE)

4 I understand the convenience aspect of all of this but how is it that there was not one person in the planning phase saying "Hey; allowing outsiders to access these systems is a bad thing"?

Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 11:00 AM (svLOV)

5 This article was written before election returns came in, so this is not an election thread. You are welcome to discuss that anyway if desired, since election returns are probably the main topic of conversation

Thank you. I have zero desire to think about last night's cataclysm.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:02 AM (Riz8t)

6 Yeah, I want to be able to open my garage door using the internet.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 04, 2026 11:03 AM (aD4fx)

7 Nobody expects the Middle Ages.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 11:03 AM (ZQ6RP)

8 I'm gonna say this and no more: I voted straight R in SC, despite my threats to ditch Darline.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 04, 2026 11:03 AM (w6EFb)

9 Thank you Joe.
I love reading about the fridges in Europe. Let's connect everything. What could go wrong?

A lady just rang my doorbell. A neighbour put out a barbecue and she asked for help to put it into her truck.

I kind of needed that today.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:04 AM (Sco7b)

10 commies give fuck all about the dangers of centralizing things

They want all the control so they can shut off your air conditioner in 105 degree weather because you said wrongthink on twitter

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 11:05 AM (fapp/)

11 The convenience of much of IoT isn't worth the safety, privacy, and maintenance costs

Great I can set my home thermometer remotely.

So can the government
So can random hackers
The device will be more expensive
It will break more often
My parents won't be able to figure it out

And let's add passwords to all these things do and require them to be "secure" so everyone has a list of passwords written down somewhere...

Posted by: Pete Bootyjizz at November 04, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)

12 4 I understand the convenience aspect of all of this but how is it that there was not one person in the planning phase saying "Hey; allowing outsiders to access these systems is a bad thing"?

because the central office, where the ceo lives, is an outsider as far as the plant is concerned?

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2026 11:05 AM (oY6Yp)

13 I must admit that so far I've been very happy with my IoT lawn sprinkler controller. I suppose there's a way a hacker could make that into a real problem, perhaps by flooding my lawn, but the bigger problem is if they get access to other thing currently on my router.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)

14 We just need refrigerators to keep the beer cold. And if we are being honest, not that cold.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 11:05 AM (qCV5n)

15 Ugh what a sock to wonder in with

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:05 AM (sKqQm)

16 IoT sucks, as most devices are not very secure. If you want hackers and the local Gov't/Power company to have access to your house, use IoT.
Some years back, the local power company here in Sandy Eggo CHANGED THE TEMPERATURE ON REMOTE THERMOSTATS in order to set the temp higher to save power.
Now imagine what hackers can do with IoT-connected TVs and fridges...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:06 AM (l3cgK)

17 I have been saying for a long time that we are automating things that should not be automated.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 04, 2026 11:06 AM (RebKl)

18
They want all the control so they can shut off your air conditioner in 105 degree weather because you said wrongthink on twitter

This AND what good is being a member of the elite if normies can have basically the same things?

Remember when some EU bigwig made a big show of turning off the AC in his building...but only for the lower floors where the peons worked?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:06 AM (sKqQm)

19 14 We just need refrigerators to keep the beer cold. And if we are being honest, not that cold.

That's why God created whiskey.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:06 AM (Riz8t)

20 I keep referring to a former co-worker who put his whole house in the IoT. The locks for the doors, the appliances, the garage, HVAC, entertainment center and of course all the connected devices.

Then, during an epic winter storm, lost power. For days.

They were locked out of their house, once in, couldn't use anything without a generator... so he bought one.

But the internet's down. And your apps won't work without it.

He and his family ended up in a hotel for 3-4 days.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 04, 2026 11:06 AM (RORbl)

21 Oh, and all the remote IoT cameras in and around your house are for the Gov't and hackers to access too...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (l3cgK)

22 OK stayed red yesterday. Makes me wonder what the fuck went wrong with the rest of you.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (syWgn)

23 "Some years back, the local power company here in Sandy Eggo CHANGED THE TEMPERATURE ON REMOTE THERMOSTATS in order to set the temp higher to save power."

They gaslight it as being a convenience "Lets us control your thermostat so you dont have to, so much convenience!"

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (fapp/)

24 I'm reminded of a guy talking about a Shadowrun game he was in back in the 90s. His character broke into a company's network and he decided to make the water fountains overflow.

The GM didn't allow it saying "That's ridiculous. Water fountains wouldn't be connected to the net!"

Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (svLOV)

25 How can I connect my asshole to the internet? And can I get free government money to do so?

Mom, the meatloaf! Mom!

Posted by: 20 something year old democrat moocher at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (2mAEd)

26 Managers who want to have all of the details of an organization at their fingertips instead of hiring good people, paying them well, and trusting them.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (RebKl)

27 I'm gonna say this and no more: I voted straight R in SC, despite my threats to ditch Darline.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

Same. Held my nose.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (r2Icn)

28 19 14 We just need refrigerators to keep the beer cold. And if we are being honest, not that cold.

That's why God created whiskey.

as a refrigerant?

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (oY6Yp)

29 23 "Some years back, the local power company here in Sandy Eggo CHANGED THE TEMPERATURE ON REMOTE THERMOSTATS in order to set the temp higher to save power."

They gaslight it as being a convenience "Lets us control your thermostat so you dont have to, so much convenience!"

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (fapp/)

While not saying WHO it's convenient for...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (l3cgK)

30 Actually I forgot my Generac is connected to the web aand I get status updates to phone and email when it does a test run every Wednesday.

I'm in a small area so that kind of makes sense.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (Sco7b)

31 Makes me wonder what the fuck went wrong with the rest of you.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons

Dude, I live in the GPROMD. The fact we had wins from Republicans here was nothing less than surprising.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (svLOV)

32 Remember when some EU bigwig made a big show of turning off the AC in his building...but only for the lower floors where the peons worked?

Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?

Posted by: Ursula von der Leyen at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (Riz8t)

33 13 I must admit that so far I've been very happy with my IoT lawn sprinkler controller. I suppose there's a way a hacker could make that into a real problem, perhaps by flooding my lawn, but the bigger problem is if they get access to other thing currently on my router.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:05 AM (Riz8t)
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You (and everyone) should be putting IoT devices that are accessible from outside your home on their own subnet on your router and setting firewall rules that prevent that subnet from talking to the other subnets that have your PCs, tablets, etc. on them.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (oqH4h)

34 It's scary to think your entire city's food supply could be destroyed, overnight, just by an outside group tampering with the fridge temps at grocery stores.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (Toos7)

35 I have so few 'IoT' possessions it's not funny. I bought my monitor @ Best Buy precisely because it DIDN'T have a camera and microphone. $139, 30". There are a few things I genuinely appreciate about the IoT … and many more that I don't.

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (ayRl+)

36 28 19 14 We just need refrigerators to keep the beer cold. And if we are being honest, not that cold.

That's why God created whiskey.

as a refrigerant?

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (oY6Yp)

Alcohol can be used as a refrigerant...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (l3cgK)

37
I have zero desire to think about last night's cataclysm.
Posted by: Archimedes

=================

My very aged mom listens to the news all day. I told her to turn it off and listen to Frank Sinatra tunes and things that make her happy.

The Term of the Dems will start in 2027, and we'll take the obstacles as they come.

And who knows? It might be as disappointing a shitshow and circular firing squad to its voters as the GOPe has been to us.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (mmrXZ)

38
The GM didn't allow it saying "That's ridiculous. Water fountains wouldn't be connected to the net!"

A generation or two ago people were worried about their government spying on them through the TV

Now we all carry phones that spy on us constantly.

I'll mention things I haven't looked up or talked about and then check farcebook and hey...an ad for that thing I just talked about...10% off for first time buyers!

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (sKqQm)

39 what the fuck went wrong with the rest of you.

California metastasized.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (RebKl)

40 It said its AK-SM800 and AK-SC355 fridge regulator systems were notably affected, with a version of the former using "outdated firmware".

One- of sufficient age- wonders how refrigerators ever worked without "firmware".

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (Kkd7+)

41 We, for one, are *very* happy that election machines are part of the IoT. Trust us!

Posted by: (D)emocrats & the MSM at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (0sNs1)

42 We just need refrigerators to keep the beer cold. And if we are being honest, not that cold.

That's why God created whiskey.

as a refrigerant?

As something to be consumed neat at room T.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (Riz8t)

43 As I mentioned on an earlier thread, I used to develop "gateways." My software would communicate with a gas pump, get the credit card info and send over a spacelink to a hub, using TCP/IP.

None of these networks touched the Capital I Internet. While we using Internet Protocol, all of these transactions were conducted over private networks.

I seems to me that some cheapshit enterprises in Europe messed up by not spending the Euros on private networks.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (LOvBA)

44 I have zero desire to think about last night's cataclysm.

---------------

I take comfort in knowing that Trump will be remembered fondly after we elect the next Republican president, whoever that is, whenever that is.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (qCV5n)

45 Some years back, the local power company here in Sandy Eggo CHANGED THE TEMPERATURE ON REMOTE THERMOSTATS in order to set the temp higher to save power.

That's exactly why they want people to install smart thermostats that they can control.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (aD4fx)

46 AI is going to let any idiot hack all the things. This internet has turned out to be a scourge.

Posted by: fd at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (MWfyi)

47 16 IoT sucks, as most devices are not very secure. If you want hackers and the local Gov't/Power company to have access to your house, use IoT.
Some years back, the local power company here in Sandy Eggo CHANGED THE TEMPERATURE ON REMOTE THERMOSTATS in order to set the temp higher to save power.
Now imagine what hackers can do with IoT-connected TVs and fridges...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:06 AM (l3cgK)

Yes, I will NOT opt in to that, even though they promise a discounted bill. It's insanity to agree to let them do it b/c the only time they will do it is when you NEED the AC or heat...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (Gb7+b)

48 17 I have been saying for a long time that we are automating things that should not be automated.

don't worry. i can check everything to make certain it's secure. i got your back.

Posted by: chatgpt at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (oY6Yp)

49 I understand the convenience aspect of all of this but how is it that there was not one person in the planning phase saying "Hey; allowing outsiders to access these systems is a bad thing"?
Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 11:00 AM

This is why whenever anyone mentions "the cloud" I tell them to replace that with "someone else's servers." Now...do you really want to put all of your control over your data on someone else's hardware/software over which you have no control? No? Why would you do that for the devices in your home as well?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (bFu5X)

50
And who knows? It might be as disappointing a shitshow and circular firing squad to its voters as the GOPe has been to us.

We have to hope that the Dems focus so much on looting that their various factions start publicly infighting.

The problem with this theory is in the Biden years they resolved the problem by just printing enough money to but everyone off.

Which caused the "affordability crises" which seems to have gotten the Ds the win last night.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:11 AM (sKqQm)

51 Authorities in France described the attacks as "amateurish" and offered assurances

that there was almost no chance a state actor was involved.

Just Benji from the Khyber Pass.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2026 11:11 AM (7Ne0P)

52 The anti-data center vote yesterday was part of this. Paradoxically we all use tech in our lives but hate tech as well. TechBros are the new finance bros for people to hate. With some justification.

I’m in tech and was having a discussion a few days ago with someone about this. Between the two of us we’ve automated away thousands of jobs over our careers. And got paid very well to do that.

The backlash was inevitable.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 04, 2026 11:11 AM (qRlGC)

53 44 I take comfort in knowing that Trump will be remembered fondly after we elect the next Republican president, whoever that is, whenever that is.

hitler, obviously.

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2026 11:11 AM (oY6Yp)

54 If I buy food at their stores, does my credit card info go over the Internet?

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 04, 2026 11:12 AM (LOvBA)

55 I take comfort in knowing that Trump will be remembered fondly after we elect the next Republican president, whoever that is, whenever that is.

If there is a next Republican president.

The D's take the presidency in 2028, and they will introduce "Our Democracy", and will ensure that they never lose another election.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 04, 2026 11:12 AM (aD4fx)

56 >>> 13 I must admit that so far I've been very happy with my IoT lawn sprinkler controller.

We have an old fashioned Rain Bird sprinkler system, and every time the guy comes in the fall to blow out our sprinklers for the winter, he tells us how great a system it is. To hold on to it as long as possible. It's super easy to set.

But I wish you luck with yours!

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2026 11:12 AM (Toos7)

57 AI is going to let any idiot hack all the things. This internet has turned out to be a scourge.

I've seen people note AI has found a bunch of bugs in various code bases.

Now...my own experience yes and it will also flag a bunch of things that aren't bugs as well but this same sort of analysis will find security vulnerabilities as well. Yes, people with use AI to fix those which in turn will open new vulnerabilities and so on...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:12 AM (sKqQm)

58 Private networks, OK. But the benefits of general connection obviously aren't worth the risks at the current level of cybersecurity.

The industries in 1994 (whatever) that had evolved and existed in some cases for decades or a century don't need it until it can be done securely. And critical infrastructure should never have it - it's kinda right there in the name.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 04, 2026 11:13 AM (U/Byj)

59 I live in a very red state, South Dakota. All the republicans running last night won. There was a constitutional amendment on the ballot that would require that only U.S. citizens be allowed to vote. It overwhelmingly passed, however, 32% voted against it. I can't get over that 32%.

Posted by: Archer at November 04, 2026 11:13 AM (aWPl9)

60 AI is going to let Any Idiot hack all the things. This internet has turned out to be a scourge.
Posted by: fd

Hold it. Have you decoded the message?

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (Kkd7+)

61 10 FACTS about the Iran War:

1) It lost us the midterms.

I'd like to see more in depth analysis.

How much of last night was the war/gas prices, and how much was Trump stopping inflation but not rolling prices back to pre-Biden levels?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (sKqQm)

62 39 what the fuck went wrong with the rest of you.

California metastasized.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (RebKl)

California voted for Reagan as Governor, and later President ( twice ). It's not that California metastasized, it's that a liberal cancer grew and turned Kalifornia into a commie-infested organ, and THAT cancer metastasized. Are you going to blame California for Oregon too?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (l3cgK)

63 I have a new Rain Bird controller. It has the home wifi password. I am not concerned because I don't broadcast the SSID.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (LOvBA)

64 You know what we all need.

Cars that the police can disable remotely to stop the evil people.
For our safety.
Won't you think of the children?!

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (Sco7b)

65 And who knows? It might be as disappointing a shitshow and circular firing squad to its voters as the GOPe has been to us.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (mmrXZ)

No it won’t. The left has a PLAN.

Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (ZQ6RP)

66 Remember the consternation the introduction of 'smart meters' caused? People were speculating that the power company rep who installed it would also come into your home and install new outlets that had cameras in 'em so the Power Company could hear and see everything you said and did. There was an old tune in the '70s that had the lyrics "Paranoia runs deep / Into your life it will creep" … it was prescient.

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:15 AM (ayRl+)

67 32% voted against it. I can't get over that 32%.

They got a voter guide telling them to vote against it because its racist or Orangemanbad.

Its really that simple.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:15 AM (sKqQm)

68 "no longer receive software or security updates"

Which is a HUGE problem with software in the connected age. Honestly, you shouldn't NEED security updates to your software - at least, not nearly as often as you get them. But they went and built a bunch of the foundational bits with more concern to connecting than to protecting.

It was a bad idea then and it's worse now.

Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2026 11:15 AM (kU0PQ)

69 66 And who knows? It might be as disappointing a shitshow and circular firing squad to its voters as the GOPe has been to us.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (mmrXZ)

No it won’t. The left has a PLAN.
Posted by: Eromero at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (ZQ6RP)

Well, they do seem to get things done - see Obamacare...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:15 AM (Gb7+b)

70 Why is 150 degrees C even a possible setting? There is no situation where you'd need anything remotely that high to defrost a freezer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (2ocoG)

71 You know what we all need.

Cars that the police can disable remotely to stop the evil people.
For our safety.
Won't you think of the children?!

Personally, I want a frig that won't let me open it when I want a snack, because "that's not good for you - you've had enough calories today".

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (Riz8t)

72 AI is going to let Any Idiot hack all the things. This internet has turned out to be a scourge.
Posted by: fd

Hold it. Have you decoded the message?
Posted by: t-bird

Once you see it, you can't unsee it. It's everywhere.

Drink More Ovaltine.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (7Ne0P)

73 I was pretty down in 2012 and it was all for nought. I was convinced 8 years of Hillary was inevitable - and then a miracle occurred. So if nothing else do not despair.

Remember that yesterday you probably didn't do too well at predicting even what would happen last night.

So do not try to forecast the future. It belongs to Him.

Posted by: ... at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (i+GzW)

74 71 You know what we all need.

Cars that the police can disable remotely to stop the evil people.
For our safety.
Won't you think of the children?!

Personally, I want a frig that won't let me open it when I want a snack, because "that's not good for you - you've had enough calories today".
Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (Riz8t)

They sell those...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (Gb7+b)

75 69 "no longer receive software or security updates"

Which is a HUGE problem with software in the connected age. Honestly, you shouldn't NEED security updates to your software - at least, not nearly as often as you get them. But they went and built a bunch of the foundational bits with more concern to connecting than to protecting.

hmmm.... *scribbles notes* nationalize data centers so that we can enlist chatgpt to reach out and forcibly patch iot devices that need security updates.

Posted by: adding to the d agenda at November 04, 2026 11:17 AM (oY6Yp)

76 61 10 FACTS about the Iran War:

1) It lost us the midterms.

I'd like to see more in depth analysis.

How much of last night was the war/gas prices, and how much was Trump stopping inflation but not rolling prices back to pre-Biden levels?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (sKqQm)

Which is nearly impossible without Depression-level economic fall-out.
Best you can do is increase the purchasing power of the consumer, which was and is happening under Trump. If the Dems take over in 2029, and the economy goes into the sh*tter and stays there into the 2030's, be sure it'll be blamed on Trump.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:17 AM (l3cgK)

77 OK stayed red yesterday. Makes me wonder what the fuck went wrong with the rest of you.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (syWgn)
___

Missouri is still red.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 04, 2026 11:17 AM (TJRes)

78 @ 64 You know what we all need. Cars that the police can disable remotely to stop the evil people. For our safety.
Won't you think of the children?! Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (Sco7b)
_________________________

Ever hear of 'OnStar'? GM used to brag about how you could call them if your car was stolen and they could kill the engine. Good, huh? A Cadillac tech told me over lunch one day that, if GM could kill the engine to stop a thief, it could also kill the engine to stop YOU. But people didn't wanna hear that, so …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:17 AM (ayRl+)

79 The problems facing the country can't be fixed in 8 years. Trump tried to give it a start. I don't think a lot of people understand the vast undertaking needed.

And now comes the arson crew.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:17 AM (r2Icn)

80 61 10 FACTS about the Iran War:

1) It lost us the midterms.
_-_
Gotta think that the lack of action by the GOP in congress was also a sizeable factor.

Posted by: Don in SoCo at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (RebKl)

81 74 Remember that yesterday you probably didn't do too well at predicting even what would happen last night.

So do not try to forecast the future. It belongs to Him.

la la la la live for today...

Posted by: things that always work out at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (oY6Yp)

82 But they went and built a bunch of the foundational bits with more concern to connecting than to protecting.

I think we look at internet security in a wrong way.

The idea is software needs to be a fortress because their are endless barbarian wanting to come in and loot it.

I have a look on my door, but if a group of people really wanted to get in they can. That doesn't happen because it will bring police who will arrest them.

With the internet it is harder to arrest people sure. But the answer to that should be more severe punishment. If we started hanging people/droning people for hacking and broadcast it on TV internet security wouldn't be such a difficult field...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (sKqQm)

83 So if nothing else do not despair.

---------------

Last night was bad, but despair is sucks.

Regroup and soldier on.

Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (qCV5n)

84 Commercial or industrial refrigerators are capital equipment, and can see very long service life - service life that will almost inevitably be much longer than software is typically maintained, patched and kept secure.

Which is why they really shouldn't be software-based, at all. When you convert a mechanical system to a software system, you turn a likely reliable machine into something that is increasingly unstable and ephemeral.

Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (kU0PQ)

85 "10 ) It lost us the midterms.
Posted by: The James Madison"

So it's Trump's fault for dealing with the muzzie menace. Nobody else would take the hit. What lost the elections is the worthless GOP and voters who sat home either because of apathy or the worthless GOP gave them nothing to show up for.

Anyway, whether or not the country is worth saving from Islam at this point is debatable. The electorate shit the bed and now they can lay in it.

Posted by: fd at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (MWfyi)

86 I have a new Rain Bird controller. It has the home wifi password. I am not concerned because I don't broadcast the SSID.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (LOvBA)

That's hardly a concern, loundeye. All your sprinkler are belong to us.

Posted by: Norks at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (RDiUV)

87 40 It said its AK-SM800 and AK-SC355 fridge regulator systems were notably affected, with a version of the former using "outdated firmware".

One- of sufficient age- wonders how refrigerators ever worked without "firmware".
Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2026 11:09 AM (Kkd7+)

Refrigeration equipment has to be monitored to keep product from spoiling if the temperature gets too high. Residential refrigerators are plug and play, but supermarket refrigeration systems are complex and require a great deal of maintenance. I've been in the refrigeration industry since I graduated from college, and these systems have been in place since the late 80's. AFAIK there have never been any large scale attacks against grocery stores like we are seeing now. With AI, this is only the beginning. Anything connected to the interwebz is vulnerable, and this type of hacking could literally bring this country to its knees in weeks.

Posted by: Polka will never die at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (zuZpx)

88 One of the reasons for voter abandonment---Relations with Israel. A quote by JD Vance.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (8Uo7a)

89 Now that I've entered the era of Every Day Is Saturday I've begun taking more road trips. My dependency on technology continues to grow. Maps, of course. Wallymart. GasBuddy. Lots of lodging apps. Texts. Android Auto - Libby for audiobooks and UToobz for music.
And Starlink. Starlink is a wonderment.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (RDhJX)

90 Considering the election returns, not being connected to the internet is probably a good thing. Don't use smart anything.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (1K8XZ)

91 76 61 10 FACTS about the Iran War:

1) It lost us the midterms.

I'd like to see more in depth analysis.

How much of last night was the war/gas prices, and how much was Trump stopping inflation but not rolling prices back to pre-Biden levels?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (sKqQm)

Which is nearly impossible without Depression-level economic fall-out.
Best you can do is increase the purchasing power of the consumer, which was and is happening under Trump. If the Dems take over in 2029, and the economy goes into the sh*tter and stays there into the 2030's, be sure it'll be blamed on Trump.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:17 AM (l3cgK)

But it was reaccelerating again this year...so he stopped it in 2025, but gas prices and the war got it started again...and folks see that.

We still couldn't buy beef, especially steak...and he had 2 years. That's what 90% of the middle class workers were saying...

Taking it away from others (stopping fraud) was nice, but still didn't help the 90%...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (Gb7+b)

92 65 No it won’t. The left has a PLAN.

you know who else has a plan?

Posted by: xinnie the pooh at November 04, 2026 11:20 AM (oY6Yp)

93 >>>I'm gonna say this and no more: I voted straight R in SC, despite my threats to ditch Darline.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

Same. Held my nose.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (r2Icn)

--

That Greenville County went blue for Senate, even slightly, is a bad sign.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2026 11:20 AM (NYInA)

94 "4 I understand the convenience aspect of all of this but how is it that there was not one person in the planning phase saying "Hey; allowing outsiders to access these systems is a bad thing"?
Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 11:00 AM (svLOV)"

The fraction of the population that is too stupid to do much more than watch the ass end of a plow horse or dig ditches hasn't changed in thousands of years.

Sending them all to college did nothing.

Posted by: heya at November 04, 2026 11:21 AM (G5zYf)

95 64 You know what we all need.

Cars that the police can disable remotely to stop the evil people.
For our safety.
Won't you think of the children?!

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (Sco7b)

Yeah, like deFrock Cameras only being used to find kidnapped children within a city...It'll NEVER be abused by anyone! Gov't will NEVER pass legislation "allowing" police to kill cars for other reasons...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:21 AM (l3cgK)

96 The Dow is up 2.5% today. This makes no sense.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

97 These have been comparatively little incidents and were not disasters

I'd call it a proof of concept attack.

"Look at how easy it will be to starve our enemies".

If it's not a state actor, if it's one of their own citizens being an edgelord, so much the better. It's way easier to execute your own people than to execute foreigners.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 04, 2026 11:21 AM (vJrRc)

98 Anything connected to the interwebz is vulnerable, and this type of hacking could literally bring this country to its knees in weeks.

Posted by: Polka will never die at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (zuZpx)

Promises. Promises.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 04, 2026 11:21 AM (RDiUV)

99 I was just looking around but the blue wave from last night is no where close to what the red wave in 2010 during obama's first term. They lost bot the house and a super majority in the senate that year.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (I43vL)

100 Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (qCV5n

Amen!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (JrHfD)

101 70 Why is 150 degrees C even a possible setting? There is no situation where you'd need anything remotely that high to defrost a freezer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (2ocoG)

I thought it was 50ºC...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (l3cgK)

102 96 The Dow is up 2.5% today. This makes no sense.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 04, 2026 11:21 AM (Riz8t)

They expect the fed to stop raising rates...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (Gb7+b)

103 I live in a very red state.

Basically every Republican won every position they won in 2024 and 2022. However the margins were about 6% smaller on average looking at it ballpark.

In a state like mine a 6% shift doesn’t do much since the margins are so high to begin with. Winning by 20 or by 14, whatever still a solid win.

In a state where wins are in razor thin like a Wisconsin or Michigan or even minesotta that’s a tsunami election for the other side.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (qRlGC)

104 "...despite my threats to ditch Darline.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist"

Well, she doesn't spell her name right.

Posted by: Darlene's everywhere at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (RDhJX)

105 @ 91 … I still don't buy steak - OR ground beef. I'll be damned if I'll pay almost $8 for a 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef. Fuck 'em.

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (ayRl+)

106 Now you still won't be able to buy beef for yourself because you'll have to pay for beef for other people.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (enNUy)

107 The Dow is up 2.5% today. This makes no sense.

Stocks are pretty good investment in a high inflationary time period.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:23 AM (sKqQm)

108 10 FACTS about the Iran War:

1) It lost us the midterms.

Absolutely. It forced a cartoonish steal covered by EO 13848. What other option did they have?

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2026 11:23 AM (Kkd7+)

109 "64 You know what we all need.

Cars that the police can disable remotely to stop the evil people.
For our safety.
Won't you think of the children?!
Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:14 AM (Sco7b)"

This guy thinks we will be allowed to have cars

People don't understand the bullet we dodged in 2024 with CAFE shit.

Posted by: heya at November 04, 2026 11:23 AM (G5zYf)

110 My Dog has got the Zoomies. He will not be denied right now.

Posted by: tubal at November 04, 2026 11:23 AM (Gqar8)

111 Blonde, I said last night I fully expect liberal infighting, and that will be worth having popcorn on hand for.

I suspect liberals were voted in to lower gas and food prices, and stop the Iran war. The average normie doesn't care about revenge on Trump. The average normie voted IN Trump in 2024. But the dems will overplay their hand and make all their policies about MAGA revenge. Will the voters be ok with that in 28? We shall see.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2026 11:24 AM (Toos7)

112 Which caused the "affordability crises" which seems to have gotten the Ds the win last night.

Posted by: 18-1

This is my WAG as to what happened last night. The Dems managed to pin their own the blame for their own horrible policies and behavior on the opposition, because the opposition couldn't undo the damage in two years.

I believe that the average American is struggling financially right now, especially if they're young. Thanks to being bled dry by years of Bidenomics, their credit and savings are blown. Trump promised to fix that, and he hasn't (yet).

And if corruption is an emerging theme, there has been nothing more damaging than the corporate and government leftist alliances and the corruption they've spawned. The dems own the bulk of that, but seem to have convinced voters otherwise.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at November 04, 2026 11:24 AM (yFLFB)

113 Why is 150 degrees C even a possible setting?

To save cost, our firmware is also used on our incinerators.

Posted by: Big Bangalore at November 04, 2026 11:24 AM (Kkd7+)

114 One of the reasons for voter abandonment---Relations with Israel. A quote by JD Vance.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 04, 2026 11:19 AM (8Uo7a)

Vance/Carlson 2028

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:25 AM (AKptf)

115 Has gas dropped below $2.50 yet?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2026 11:25 AM (qq+pS)

116 105 @ 91 … I still don't buy steak - OR ground beef. I'll be damned if I'll pay almost $8 for a 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (ayRl+)

And this is the problem and the big reason for the loss. You say fuck 'em and don't blame Trump/Rs. But LIVs 100% do b/c they put them in charge so they could eat beef again (simplified example - do this across 100 products and industries and just overall middle class life)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:26 AM (Gb7+b)

117 I still don't buy steak - OR ground beef. I'll be damned if I'll pay almost $8 for a 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (ayRl+)

Gut. Ve haf ze bugs for you.

Posted by: WEF at November 04, 2026 11:26 AM (1K8XZ)

118 McMansions are BOGO today. Praise allah. Youngsters have roofs.

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (enNUy)

119 ...how is it that there was not one person in the planning phase saying "Hey; allowing outsiders to access these systems is a bad thing"?

"No problem. It has passwords and two-factor authentication. Perfectly secure."

-- Software ~~Developer~~ Salesman

Posted by: Oddbob at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (vTZFs)

120 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2026 11:25 AM (qq+pS)

Good to see you, sir.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (RDiUV)

121 70 Why is 150 degrees C even a possible setting? There is no situation where you'd need anything remotely that high to defrost a freezer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (2ocoG)

Yes, this is my problem too...been eating chicken and pork (with pork/lb sometimes being less expensive than chicken). Costco cooked ham was $3.29/lb, the same price as UNCOOKED pork chops...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (l3cgK)

122 We will see a miracle of gas prices dropping precipitously across the country!

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (AKptf)

123 Vance/Carlson 2028
Posted by: runner

You will vote for Christie/ Pedro Bush and like it.

Chris is the only candidate who can chew through the issues.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (qq+pS)

124 Dem "in-fighting" etc won't matter any more than their vile behavior since 2016 has. For whatever reason, there's no cost politically.

Meanwhile no judges after Christmas. No justices, with the only 2 solid incumbents in their late 70s (and this extends into next prez term). Politicized Senate confirmation of general officers - you think that's going to be off-limits to the newly empowered cretins? Uh uh.

How many new "sanctuary" states? TX? (!!) Others? Enforcing immigration law is already incredibly difficult due to institutional/civic collapse generally. Just wait til you see what it's like starting in January.

Census definitely without legislative fixes. Birthright citizenship absurdity ditto. God knows what destructive vandalism re data centers, AI, etc (even with vetoes, capital can go on strike as it did under Obama).

Leaving aside the electoral picture for 2028, seems most are just ignoring the catastrophe we're seeing/about to see.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (U/Byj)

125 115 Has gas dropped below $2.50 yet?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2026 11:25 AM

Any minute now.

Posted by: Karen on NextDoor at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (RDhJX)

126 Geez...copy/paste failure. My mouse sucks almost as often as Kumala...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (l3cgK)

127 I understand the convenience aspect of all of this but how is it that there was not one person in the planning phase saying "Hey; allowing outsiders to access these systems is a bad thing"?
Posted by: NR Pax at November 04, 2026 11:00 AM (svLOV)

Because those people are just Negative Nellies and Grumpy test guys who are Luddites and just like to say "No."

It makes it especially satisfying to say "I told you so" in the after action meeting about some incident. It doesn't have to be security. It can be something as simple as using someone else's software, such that 5 years later you can't even update your system but have to entirely rewrite it - because that other person's software went End Of Life. (And that means no mo updates, and you won't pass the security scans now.)

Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (kU0PQ)

128 I still don't buy steak - OR ground beef. I'll be damned if I'll pay almost $8 for a 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef. Fuck 'em.

I've starting buying the 10-lb. tubes for $35 from my Amish store. A little inconvenient, but it's saving me a ton of money.

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (Kkd7+)

129 Republicans delivered a decent tax cut package. They have induced trillion$ in foreign investment. The economy is doing good.

So those issues didn't win the election.
Those issues will be ignored by Democrats.

Posted by: torabora at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (Wt1Rs)

130 Breaking News: In sad news for our single 'Rons, Megan Moroney has announced she is officially an item with USMNT soccer player Christian Pulisic, and is now off the market.

Sorry, guys.

Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at November 04, 2026 11:28 AM (0sNs1)

131 Back at’cha flounder.

Going to be back in fits and starts.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2026 11:28 AM (qq+pS)

132 113 Why is 150 degrees C even a possible setting?

To save cost, our firmware is also used on our incinerators.

Posted by: Big Bangalore at November 04, 2026 11:24 AM (Kkd7+)

Are they used in Germany?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:28 AM (l3cgK)

133
I understand the convenience aspect of all of this but how is it that there was not one person in the planning phase saying "Hey; allowing outsiders to access these systems is a bad thing"?
Posted by: NR Pax

================

The fun thing is, safeguards were available to prevent hacking. It would have taken a little more effort and minor cost, but apparently the frogs didn't want to bother.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:28 AM (mmrXZ)

134 >>How much of last night was the war/gas prices, and how much was Trump stopping inflation but not rolling prices back to pre-Biden levels?

How much of it was the nature of midterms with the party out of power being energized and the party in power becoming complacent after getting what they wanted?

I thought we would perform much better last night and keep the Senate. I knew we'd be up against history but I thought our side would reward our team for a sealed border, record deportations, lowest crime in generations, a booming economy and on and on. Instead we got complacent and let the left, who despises all of that, have all the energy.

Michigan elected an anti-semite jihadist. Texas, of all places, elected a trans, gay senator that took 2 weeks of the election off. Neither of those was because of gas prices or inflation. Both were much worse under Biden. Thinking this election was about good old American values is fighting the last war.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:28 AM (viF8m)

135 @ 116 105 @ 91 … I still don't buy steak - OR ground beef. I'll be damned if I'll pay almost $8 for a 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef. Fuck 'em. Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (ayRl+)
And this is the problem and the big reason for the loss. You say fuck 'em and don't blame Trump/Rs. But LIVs 100% do b/c they put them in charge so they could eat beef again (simplified example - do this across 100 products and industries and just overall middle class life) ... Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:26 AM (Gb7+b)
__________________________________

I'm STILL not going to pay $8± for a goddamned 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef.

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:28 AM (ayRl+)

136 You will vote for Christie/ Pedro Bush and like it.

Chris is the only candidate who can chew through the issues.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (qq+pS)

🤣🤣

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:29 AM (AKptf)

137 How many new "sanctuary" states? TX? (!!) Others? Enforcing immigration law is already incredibly difficult due to institutional/civic collapse generally. Just wait til you see what it's like starting in January.

Census definitely without legislative fixes. Birthright citizenship absurdity ditto. God knows what destructive vandalism re data centers, AI, etc (even with vetoes, capital can go on strike as it did under Obama).

Leaving aside the electoral picture for 2028, seems most are just ignoring the catastrophe we're seeing/about to see.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM

The county sheriffs here in Texas for the most part will not go along with the sanctuary stuff.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 11:29 AM (I43vL)

138 128 I still don't buy steak - OR ground beef. I'll be damned if I'll pay almost $8 for a 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef. Fuck 'em.

I've starting buying the 10-lb. tubes for $35 from my Amish store. A little inconvenient, but it's saving me a ton of money.

Posted by: t-bird at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (Kkd7+)

You've been eating tube steak?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:29 AM (l3cgK)

139 Most voters don’t spend their days analyzing every piece of data like oh gdp is up 3% kudos to you dear chap Donald. They know Trump is in office, gas is $4 it was under $3 before the war he started. And they’re pissed off.

Voters show their anger is voting for the other party. I really don’t think it’s more complicated than that. It may not be rational but it’s how it works.

It’s back to Clinton’s “it’s the economy stupid”.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 04, 2026 11:29 AM (qRlGC)

140 The Dow is up 2.5% today. This makes no sense.

The one thing the market hates more than anything else is uncertainty. "We're screwed for at least two years" is a form of certainty.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 04, 2026 11:29 AM (vTZFs)

141
Well, that was fun.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2026 11:29 AM (OkYzo)

142 The House and Senate will swing back during the 2028 election.

By how much, I don't know.

Posted by: dantesed at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (Oy/m2)

143 By the time they're seated, the commies will be talking about confiscating retirement funds. Maybe by Friday.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (r2Icn)

144 Also:
Trump closed the border tight.

Voters didn't care.

Posted by: torabora at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (Wt1Rs)

145 Markets like predictability. They predict gridlock for the next 2 years. No major shifts in policy.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (AKptf)

146 >>>Speaking to BBC Radio 4's PM programme, Alex Pearce, the managing director of fruit and vegetable supplier Langridge Organic, said he had noticed on Monday morning that two of his company's fridges were showing "abnormal temperatures and defrost settings".

Hero.

Posted by: m at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (odBC9)

147 129 Republicans delivered a decent tax cut package. They have induced trillion$ in foreign investment. The economy is doing good.

So those issues didn't win the election.
Those issues will be ignored by Democrats.
Posted by: torabora at November 04, 2026 11:27 AM (Wt1Rs)

The economy is doing good for the top 10%, aka those who own the stocks. It is not doing good for the bottom 90% and particularly the 40-90% groups where Repubs have thrived.

Having a job with no salary increases with inflation rampant, so you work a ton and can't afford life is not gonna ever feel like "the economy is good" - it's gonna feel like someone is lying to your face.

Not to mention the entry level and AI job losses that make finding non-minimum wage jobs for those out of work so difficult.

People get bitter when they are told something they don't experience themselves.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (Gb7+b)

148 Which caused the "affordability crises" which seems to have gotten the Ds the win last night.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:11 AM (sKqQm)
-----

Bingo.

We lost so badly because the GOP is full of retards that couldn't message their way out of a wet paper bag with razor blades in both hands.

The entire "Affordability" thing was and is An Op and it was blatantly obvious from the beginning. And the GOP did sweet fuck-all to counter that narrative, and in fact just accepted the Dem framing of the issue, because they're useless.

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 11:31 AM (oqH4h)

149 Breaking News: In sad news for our single 'Rons, Megan Moroney has announced she is officially an item with USMNT soccer player Christian Pulisic, and is now off the market.

Sorry, guys.
Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at November 04, 2026 11:28 AM (0sNs1)

Who and who?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 11:31 AM (1K8XZ)

150 I wonder how much of the gas price increase is Iran and how much is California driving refineries out of business.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 11:31 AM (Zd7Bz)

151 Why is 150 degrees C even a possible setting? There is no situation where you'd need anything remotely that high to defrost a freezer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (2ocoG)

I thought it was 50ºC...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM

I guess it depends on how quickly you want to defrost that freezer.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2026 11:31 AM (bFu5X)

152 You've been eating tube steak?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:29 AM

Well, not anymore.

Posted by: zombie Lindsay Graham (RINO) at November 04, 2026 11:31 AM (0sNs1)

153 Did I miss the coverage of the anti-Jewish rally set for philly on the 8th?

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 11:32 AM (kJmLc)

154 Having a job with no salary increases with inflation rampant, so you work a ton and can't afford life is not gonna ever feel like "the economy is good" - it's gonna feel like someone is lying to your face.

Not to mention the entry level and AI job losses that make finding non-minimum wage jobs for those out of work so difficult.

People get bitter when they are told something they don't experience themselves.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (Gb7+b)
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Gosh that sounds a lot like FEELINGS

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 11:32 AM (oqH4h)

155 They gaslight it as being a convenience "Lets us control your thermostat so you dont have to, so much convenience!"
Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - FAP Certified at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (fapp/)

Well, honestly, having to update my thermostat clock twice a year is a royal pain in the butt. Almost worth it to just get an old-timey dial, and turn it down before bed and up after you get out of bed.

Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2026 11:32 AM (kU0PQ)

156 It was pointed out to me that in the last 80+ years of midterms, only TWO presidents kept the house and senate at midterms.

Dubya after 9/11. Makes sense.
And FDR.

So things flipping blue was likely. But the amount they flipped blue needs digging into. Looking at the demographics of the votes cast, once they are all in. Analyzing what can be fixed for 2028.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2026 11:33 AM (Toos7)

157 150 I wonder how much of the gas price increase is Iran and how much is California driving refineries out of business.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 04, 2026 11:31 AM (Zd7Bz)

It's both.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:33 AM (Gb7+b)

158 101 70 Why is 150 degrees C even a possible setting? There is no situation where you'd need anything remotely that high to defrost a freezer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 04, 2026 11:16 AM (2ocoG)

I thought it was 50ºC...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 04, 2026 11:22 AM (l3cgK)

The defrosts for each case were reset to 300 minutes with no temperature termination. The defrosts heaters just kept running for hours, some of the cases actually got hot enough to catch fire inside.

This was an attack on one OEM for monitoring and control hardware. The playbook for the hack was published by an OT Cybersecurity company called Claroty-- link https://tinyurl.com/ynpjws5h for anyone who is interested. Their blog gave step by step instructions with screenshots on how to hack the systems. Their blog gave Sam hack has been used over and over across Europe.

Posted by: Polka will never die at November 04, 2026 11:33 AM (zuZpx)

159 I still don't buy steak - OR ground beef. I'll be damned if I'll pay almost $8 for a 1-lb pack of 73/27 ground beef. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Dr_No

90/10 is $5.97/lb and 80/20 is $5.72/lb at Sam's.
Ribeyes are running $15.87/lb.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2026 11:33 AM (7Ne0P)

160 There are a number of Republicans who did well. Most of them in Florida. Maybe national GOP needs to look at what and how they did it. As for the RNC, NRSC and similar, they need to be trashed. Frigging consultants will be the end of us.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:34 AM (AKptf)

161 154 Having a job with no salary increases with inflation rampant, so you work a ton and can't afford life is not gonna ever feel like "the economy is good" - it's gonna feel like someone is lying to your face.

Not to mention the entry level and AI job losses that make finding non-minimum wage jobs for those out of work so difficult.

People get bitter when they are told something they don't experience themselves.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM (Gb7+b)
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Gosh that sounds a lot like FEELINGS
Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 11:32 AM (oqH4h)

Yes, and if you've ever done debate, feelings matter more than logic. You have an easier time of convincing someone of something when you can make them feel it vs just make them think it. Feelings stay, thoughts stray.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:34 AM (Gb7+b)

162 I'm doing stuff around the house.
Beer is involved....

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:34 AM (Sco7b)

163 We lost so badly because the GOP is full of retards that couldn't message their way out of a wet paper bag with razor blades in both hands.

The entire "Affordability" thing was and is An Op and it was blatantly obvious from the beginning. And the GOP did sweet fuck-all to counter that narrative, and in fact just accepted the Dem framing of the issue, because they're useless.
Posted by: ballistic

How's my ass taste?

Posted by: John Thune, feckless fuckwit at November 04, 2026 11:34 AM (r2Icn)

164 So, how many changed their voter registration to independent today like I did?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (1K8XZ)

165 House and Senate will swing back during the 2028 election.

—

House maybe.

Senate, not a chance. Look at the 2028 map, not a lot of blue seats in play that are realistic pickups.

Maybe Nevada.maybe Ohio. Maybe Georgia. That’s about it the rest are seats in deep blue states.

Posted by: Sandy Cocazio Ortez at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (qRlGC)

166 160 There are a number of Republicans who did well. Most of them in Florida. Maybe national GOP needs to look at what and how they did it. As for the RNC, NRSC and similar, they need to be trashed. Frigging consultants will be the end of us.
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:34 AM (AKptf)

DeSantis actually got populist laws passed.

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (Gb7+b)

167 153 Did I miss the coverage of the anti-Jewish rally set for philly on the 8th?

sorry. we're too busy watching the clock tick down for the launch of wow:forever

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (oY6Yp)

168 By the time they're seated, the commies will be talking about confiscating retirement funds. Maybe by Friday.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM

I told the wife that exact same thing this morning after I read about the blood bath. We are three years away from the mandatory withdrawals but we might try and get ahead of the curve and start emptying ours out before then.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (I43vL)

169
I took a walk to clear my head and not think about politics, when this suddenly popped into my head-

The nationalize all of Musk's companies foofaraw will last until Musk starts contributing billions to the "right" Democrats.

And Musk is too smart of aa businessman not to do that.

I suppose the might not happen if the commie true-believers outnumber the graft and corruption wing of the Dims.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (YSUhf)

170 The overriding problem is that the Oppo is run by and staffed with the kind of people whose deepest desire is to make other people do what they want. Some are evil, some are dumb idealists. Evil people with no scruples defeat idealists so in time they always end up in charge. And it seems to be human nature so no matter how many you get rid of, a new crop appears. And the modern world allows much more access for all of them everywhere across the world.

Posted by: Azjaeger at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (3/XaG)

171 I can get chicken drumsticks for $1.99 Canadian.
I still have 600 cans of sardines though.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (Sco7b)

172 Yes, and if you've ever done debate, feelings matter more than logic. You have an easier time of convincing someone of something when you can make them feel it vs just make them think it. Feelings stay, thoughts stray.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:34 AM (Gb7+b)
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Oh I agree. That wasn't directed at you. lol

Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (oqH4h)

173 Missouri is still red.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 04, 2026 11:17 AM (TJRes)

Good. We both need a good neighbor now that TX screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (B3wfx)

174 I guess maybe they thought they could get away with not having well-secured systems because somewhere deep down they thought that they were still living in a high-trust society?

Hate to think what it's going to take to drive home the lesson that things are just a tad different now.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (q3u5l)

175 Gosh that sounds a lot like FEELINGS
Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 11:32 AM

Ok, by request:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3SVrq8GM7M

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (0sNs1)

176
Blonde, I said last night I fully expect liberal infighting, and that will be worth having popcorn on hand for.

Posted by: LizLem

===============

Some Dems might not be down with this "the fire will rise" business promised by Wajahat Ali.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (mmrXZ)

177 164 So, how many changed their voter registration to independent today like I did?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (1K8XZ)

I did in 2020... Felt it was a good move in CA.... Now more than ever

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (4WM7K)

178 Well this sucks!

Posted by: DaveA at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (FhXTo)

179 My artsy/theater friends who are ecstatic Talarico won already want him as president. Hilarious. Would be funny if he beat AOC to the gig.

AOC and Newsome probably running for Pres. I bet the old school gatekeeping libs forcing in Newsome as the nominee, is a possible scenario. But the commie DSAs feel it's their turn, they would be livid if AOC got shafted. Though the Gen Z woke DSA kids think AOC is too old and a sellout too.

We live in way too interesting times.

Posted by: LizLem at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (Toos7)

180 Thx Joe
Questions.1) will the Dem Senate kill the filibuster?
) will the Dem Senate kill the blue slip
3) will al-Sayed go nuts and kill an elderly senator
4) will Schumer be majority leader.?
5 do the Dems in the House keep Jefferies as speaker

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 11:37 AM (8VNAp)

181 I'm old enough where I've seen hard midterms. Two years into a term that was essentially cleaning up the mess from the Barry and Biden administrations. Win or lose the midterms, a term-limited president is on a downward slope on the policy front.

Insty linked a Joel Pollak X post that reflects my feelings at the moment. LINK: https://tinyurl.com/337yfnfs

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 11:37 AM (rj6Yv)

182 Damn, did I ever get that one wrong.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 04, 2026 11:37 AM (2UnvF)

183 Did I miss the coverage of the anti-Jewish rally set for philly on the 8th?

Soon coming to your city.

The Jew-haters have been unleashed.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 04, 2026 11:37 AM (aD4fx)

184 When do the house democrats set up a permanent house select committee solely to investigate Trump and his family?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 11:37 AM (I43vL)

185 DeSantis actually got populist laws passed.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (Gb7+b)

Yes, eliminated the real estate tax.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:38 AM (AKptf)

186 By the time they're seated, the commies will be talking about confiscating retirement funds. Maybe by Friday.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM

--

Only from those who gave $5 or more to a Republican candidate. (who will be de-banked by then, of course).

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 04, 2026 11:38 AM (NYInA)

187 The entire "Affordability" thing was and is An Op and it was blatantly obvious from the beginning. And the GOP did sweet fuck-all to counter that narrative, and in fact just accepted the Dem framing of the issue, because they're useless.
Posted by: ballistic at November 04, 2026 11:31 AM (oqH4h)

Swap complicit for useless. The GOPe was all in on yesterday's Charlie Foxtrot. I wouldn't put it past the Bushies to have actively taken part in facilitating the fraud.

Posted by: Polka will never die at November 04, 2026 11:38 AM (zuZpx)

188 State results are over all okay.

The abortion enthusiasts still have to go our of state to kill their third trimester kids, and English will now be the official language of the state.

The Democrats didn't win any more seats than usual. Most of the school levies passed, which is a disappointment.

And... well, we still have the same team representing us in Congress, but for the moment that's probably okay.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 04, 2026 11:39 AM (vJrRc)

189 >>So, how many changed their voter registration to independent today like I did?

Did that in 2020.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 04, 2026 11:39 AM (J4Dwc)

190 Brandon Gill won by 11 points (thank God) in an area that went for Talarico by 10-20 points. Make it make sense.

Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 04, 2026 11:39 AM (3ImbR)

191 Posted by: SH at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (qCV5n

Amen!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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This!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 11:39 AM (EneHm)

192 I told the wife that exact same thing this morning after I read about the blood bath. We are three years away from the mandatory withdrawals but we might try and get ahead of the curve and start emptying ours out before then.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (I43vL)

I've been thinking about that too. If the looks like the talk is coming to a vote, I'm jumping out of the market.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 11:40 AM (B3wfx)

193
By the time they're seated, the commies will be talking about confiscating retirement funds. Maybe by Friday.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:30 AM

That's possible. The Democrats have been talking about seizing retirement funds for years, so it's on the agenda for sure.

It's all about fairness, Faruk's father who spent the last 70 years raping goats in the Sudan will get exactly the same amount you do for working and paying taxes over the same 70 years, you terrible white supremest you!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (YSUhf)

194 185 DeSantis actually got populist laws passed.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (Gb7+b)

Yes, eliminated the real estate tax.
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:38 AM (AKptf)

He is one politician who used the last 2 years to get more popular...not sure it transaltes nationally, but what he passed is stuff populists would love nationwide...

He has good advisors or good instincts...he just needs good charisma if he ever wants a chance (although having a wife that endured breast cancer young will also now REALLY resonate b/c of the number of young getting cancer)...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (Gb7+b)

195 The Jew-haters have been unleashed.

==

Yeah, they are misreading the tea leaves. Ossoff is now talked about as a viable 2028 Presidential candidate, Schumer is the next majority leader, and Jeffries is on the same page as Schumer.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (AKptf)

196 For 2028, we need to nominate someone from outside the Trump administration. I would suggest DeSantis or Youngkin. A woman VP maybe Kim Reynolds or Kelly Ayotte.

If the Dems win the White House in 2028, which history says they will, the filibuster is gone, the judiciary is filled with Ketanjis and Sparkles, the borders are opened, and the country is finished.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (wGerL)

197 I did in 2020... Felt it was a good move in CA.... Now more than ever
Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 11:36 AM (4WM7K)

46 years as an R. They finally angered me enough to quit them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (1K8XZ)

198 Better yet, the results for my county are getting more even.

Way closer to 50/50 than it was even two years ago, which I think means that a bunch of conservatives' kids have aged into voting, finally.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (vJrRc)

199 I see that Pritzker won his reelection.

Oh well, it's not like I had much hope in him losing, not with Chicago pulling the strings.

I just feel bad for my church family in Illinois.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 04, 2026 11:42 AM (TJRes)

200 He has good advisors or good instincts...he just needs good charisma if he ever wants a chance (although having a wife that endured breast cancer young will also now REALLY resonate b/c of the number of young getting cancer)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (Gb7+b)

I think people are tired of charisma.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:42 AM (AKptf)

201 On the Internet of Thingies.... I read an article, or an editorial, today in the current issue of "Trains" magazine ripping up the idea of crewless trains. The writer, an engineer, asked who was going to inspect the train and hopefully repair or adjust things as necessary when an alarm went off, particularly when the train was out in the middle of nowhere.

My thought, in light of these refrigerator hacks, is a crewless train is a terrorist weapon waiting to happen. Hack into the controls of a string of tank cars and make the East Palestine Ohio derailment of a few years ago look like a Sunday picnic.

Posted by: George V at November 04, 2026 11:42 AM (g6ahB)

202 I just remembered the other Big Win the Rs delivered for their voters in TX, after wasting most of the last session fighting about legalizing weed:

Age verification for porn sites.

Wow! Are you not inspired?

How about hard caps on property valuation and tax increases?
Nope.

But Gina ran on reducing property taxes.
A Dem.
To the right of Republicans.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 11:43 AM (RqSb8)

203 I seems to me that some cheapshit enterprises in Europe messed up by not spending the Euros on private networks.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at November 04, 2026 11:10 AM (LOvBA)

Almost no one does that anymore. Not even in America. Most of them won't even bother to create a private network over the internet, leaving it to the security of a login to keep things 'secure.'

Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2026 11:43 AM (kU0PQ)

204 Brandon Gill won by 11 points (thank God) in an area that went for Talarico by 10-20 points. Make it make sense.
Posted by: IrishEi ?! at November 04, 2026 11:39 AM (3ImbR)
____

Harsh truth? As much as Paxton was liked here, he was a terrible candidate for a statewide general. Too much baggage, not a likeable guy, and had a target painted on his back by his own party.

I still thought he would squeak by. But he was absolutely crushed like a grape by a creepy pervert that's about as right for TX as a condom is for a WNBA player.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 11:43 AM (iFTx/)

205 Maybe Gill won because he's Indian adjacent

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 11:43 AM (enNUy)

206 200 He has good advisors or good instincts...he just needs good charisma if he ever wants a chance (although having a wife that endured breast cancer young will also now REALLY resonate b/c of the number of young getting cancer)...
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:41 AM (Gb7+b)

I think people are tired of charisma.
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:42 AM (AKptf)

Yeah, I disagree - Texas Gov Lady was charismatic last night...saw a bit of her speech, and she was likeable on camera...

Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:44 AM (Gb7+b)

207 >>So things flipping blue was likely. But the amount they flipped blue needs digging into. Looking at the demographics of the votes cast, once they are all in. Analyzing what can be fixed for 2028.

We hired Trump to do hard things, things that are obviously unpopular with at least half the country. He sealed the border and is deporting illegals at a record pace. He took down a red/green alliance in Venezuela, Cuba and Iran that has been poisoning this country for decades in many ways. He laid the groundwork for fixing our economy with very controversial tariffs that are onshoring manufacturing in ways we haven't seen since the 1960s which is when most weren't even born. And he did it largely on his own.

Half the country despises him and us. They murdered a nice guy like Charlie Kirk just for talking with them. Our schools have been breeding grounds for generations that are nothing like us. The left has been radicalized. We better get even more radicalized against them or we are screwed.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:44 AM (viF8m)

208 Here is this , just a data point :

"Two Colorado ballot issues addressing transgender youth were passing with narrow majorities as vote counting continued into the night Tuesday.

About 52.4% of voters supported Proposition 134, which would ban transgender youth from school sports teams that match their gender identities, as of 4 a.m. Wednesday. About 47.6% opposed the measure.

Similarly, about 52% of voters supported Proposition 135, which would prohibit gender-affirming surgeries for people under 18, with 48% rejecting it."

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:45 AM (AKptf)

209 The GOPe was all in on yesterday's Charlie Foxtrot.

* smiles *

Posted by: The Uniparty at November 04, 2026 11:45 AM (0sNs1)

210 OrangeEnt & none hour sober

Just did that, online.

My county turned blue.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 04, 2026 11:45 AM (u82oZ)

211 But Gina ran on reducing property taxes.
A Dem.
To the right of Republicans.
Posted by: People's Hippo

Texans were taken for granted. So were South Carolinians. So were......

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:45 AM (r2Icn)

212 But Gina ran on reducing property taxes.

If she's successful, and probably even if she isn't, the next step will be an income tax. "For The Children."

Posted by: Oddbob at November 04, 2026 11:45 AM (vTZFs)

213
El-Sayed's victory is quite a morale destroyer. Unbelievable.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2026 11:46 AM (OkYzo)

214 22 OK stayed red yesterday. Makes me wonder what the fuck went wrong with the rest of you.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 11:07 AM (syWgn)

TX Republicans found out importing all of California's Tech Firms also results in importing Democrat Voters. Add a splash of very unfavorable bombing campaign that got messaged into "The Next Forever War" and a twist of "I didn't know ICE was gonna deport my husband when I voted for Trump" And here we are.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 11:46 AM (lLeLE)

215 >> Most voters don’t spend their days analyzing every piece of data like oh gdp is up 3% kudos to you dear chap Donald. They know Trump is in office, gas is $4 it was under $3 before the war he started. And they’re pissed off.

Gas is under $3/gallon in Texas.

They just elected Talarico.

It wasn't about the price of gas.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (viF8m)

216 The Jew-haters have been unleashed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 04, 2026 11:37 AM (aD4fx

Indeed they have. Just like that Jews cause high grocery prices shit in stupid ass Michigan

Posted by: night lifted at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (kJmLc)

217 Our schools have been breeding grounds for generations that are nothing like us. The left has been radicalized. We better get even more radicalized against them or we are screwed.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:44 AM

Nothing will happen.

Posted by: That Guy who shakes his head and says "Nothing will happen." at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (0sNs1)

218
I think people are tired of charisma.
Posted by: runner

===============

I disagree. I think it's all about vibes now.

By the way (repeating myself) I wonder if Talarico will implode somehow. The man had disappeared for 11 days at the height of his campaign. There's something wrong with him.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (mmrXZ)

219 Well ... last night sucked.

I was optimistic yesterday all the way to about 6 pm. Then I started seeing numbers that looked ... bad.

I couldn't have been more wrong about my predictions.

But the reason I was wrong is that I think I'm right about a phenomenon that I'm been talking about for years:

We have Trump and nobody else. Without him actually on the ballot, too many of us stay home. We have no GOtV efforts. The Dums crush us in getting their people to "vote." We don't.

We are fucking doomed in 2028 unless we can somehow get our shit together. Anyone here think JD will get asses out of seats in 2028?

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 11:48 AM (iFTx/)

220 So far, the Dems have picked up 15 seats. They started Election Day with 215, they are now projected to win 228. 68 seats are to be determined.

In 1982, Ronald Reagan was half-way through his first term. The Republicans took a beating then, too. The GOP kept control of the Senate, but the Dems added 26 more seats to their majority in the House.

The MSM of the day hated Reagan about as much as they hate DJT now, and they ALL went on and on how this was the end of the "Reagan Revolution". Almost immediately after the last vote was counted, the policies that the Reagan Administration had pushed through despite the worst efforts of the Dem-controlled House to stop them, kicked in. The result was the 1984 "Morning in Amerca" election which RR won in a Mega Landslide.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 11:48 AM (rj6Yv)

221 90/10 is $5.97/lb and 80/20 is $5.72/lb at Sam's.
Ribeyes are running $15.87/lb.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2026 11:33 AM

I hear it's cheaper by the gallon.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 04, 2026 11:48 AM (bFu5X)

222
If she's successful, and probably even if she isn't, the next step will be an income tax. "For The Children."
Posted by: Oddbob

=================

We talked about that last night. The state constitution bars it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:48 AM (mmrXZ)

223
By the way (repeating myself) I wonder if Talarico will implode somehow. The man had disappeared for 11 days at the height of his campaign. There's something wrong with him.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (mmrXZ)

Well if he does Texas will have a Dem Governor to appoint a new one

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 11:48 AM (4WM7K)

224 TX Republicans found out importing all of California's Tech Firms also results in importing Democrat Voters. Add a splash of very unfavorable bombing campaign that got messaged into "The Next Forever War" and a twist of "I didn't know ICE was gonna deport my husband when I voted for Trump" And here we are.
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Really, there's no way they could have known that would happen.
All business is good.
/s/ GA, now solid blue having imported CA film industry

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 11:49 AM (RqSb8)

225 El-Sayed's victory is quite a morale destroyer. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Frank Barone at November 04, 2026 11:46 AM (OkYzo)
___

For those of us who had to fight his ilk in Iraq, it sucks more than you can imagine.

God is still in control, so I have to keep that in mind.

And buy moar ammo.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 04, 2026 11:49 AM (TJRes)

226
This freaking pervert/creep Talarico got elected over me?

Posted by: Beto O'Rourke at November 04, 2026 11:49 AM (OkYzo)

227 Like last time, some outfits noticed right away and intervened while others suffered significant product losses.

It will be interesting to see as more things become nationalized or those who are paid to oversee things become more low-trust, black pilled or third-world, how many will even care if the Collective's refrigerators are set to destroy?

Posted by: Community Notes at November 04, 2026 11:49 AM (BvPIe)

228 Blonde Morticia

Tali can resign for health reasons, and the new Dem governor can then install an even worse person.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 04, 2026 11:50 AM (u82oZ)

229 It wasn't about the price of gas.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (viF8m)

Look at it like a learning experience
Texas will now see what it is like living in Wisconsin

Posted by: MAC V SOG at November 04, 2026 11:50 AM (P4Pk9)

230 We hired Trump to do hard things, things that are obviously unpopular with at least half the country. He sealed the border and is deporting illegals at a record pace. He took down a red/green alliance in Venezuela, Cuba and Iran that has been poisoning this country for decades in many ways. He laid the groundwork for fixing our economy with very controversial tariffs that are onshoring manufacturing in ways we haven't seen since the 1960s which is when most weren't even born. And he did it largely on his own.

Half the country despises him and us. They murdered a nice guy like Charlie Kirk just for talking with them. Our schools have been breeding grounds for generations that are nothing like us. The left has been radicalized. We better get even more radicalized against them or we are screwed.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:44 AM (viF8m)

Thank you. Agree 100%. Couldn't have said it better.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 11:50 AM (g8Ew8)

231 Hey Salty. : )

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 04, 2026 11:50 AM (TJRes)

232 Most voters don’t spend their days analyzing every piece of data like oh gdp is up 3% kudos to you dear chap Donald. They know Trump is in office, gas is $4 it was under $3 before the war he started. And they’re pissed off.

Gas is under $3/gallon in Texas.

They just elected Talarico.

It wasn't about the price of gas.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (viF8m)
________

Agree. See my comment above. Our GOtV efforts are terrible and without Trump we just aren't motivated.

The GOP "brand" is dogshit. Polls worse than genital herpes. But MAGA is a much bigger tent. People vote for Trump who wouldn't vote for a rando GOP candidate. But when Trump isn't actually on the ballot, those people either stay home or -- gasp -- vote for the Dum.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 11:50 AM (iFTx/)

233 Here it something :
"Insurrection Barbie
@DefiyantlyFree
·
2h
A year before the midterms, Dugin was already describing how Trump’s own base could make Republicans lose the midterms. He named the American influencers he thought could pull that support away, identified Israel as the issue that would split the party, and said what Trump would have to give in to Russia to reverse course.

On November 14, 2025 he described the pressure campaign in public. Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Steve Bannon, Alex Jones, and Nick Fuentes were the media figures in the that would help punish Trump. He described the Groypers pressing Republican figures in public to choose between America First and Israel First, and said the Israel issue will bring parts of the MAGA right and the anti-Israel left into alignment....

Today he reinforced that message blaming Trump’s backing of Netanyahu, the war with Iran, and the economic and energy fallout. He said Trump sided with neoconservatives, Zionists, and what Dugin called the deep state, and “lost everything.” His bluntest line was “Iran defeated Trump.”

He laid out the strategy for how he was going to run control over American foreign policy in 2025..."

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:51 AM (AKptf)

234 But Gina ran on reducing property taxes.
A Dem.
To the right of Republicans.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Then she lied. Because she also ran on a state income tax.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 04, 2026 11:51 AM (7Ne0P)

235 Remember the guy whose "smart" chastity cage got hacked and then the hackers held his weiner for ransom?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 04, 2026 11:51 AM (BI5O2)

236 Finance and banking imported half of the north east to NC and what happened next will shock you

Posted by: NCKate at November 04, 2026 11:51 AM (enNUy)

237 "Decoy Dan" got about 2% in Alaska, and the real Dan Sullivan is basically tied at the moment. They say it could take a couple weeks ... I wonder if ranked choice will give real Dan an advantage, in case some people marked the real Dan as second choice when they were not sure which Dan to vote for.

But I'd guess Decoy Dan got 2% only based on people that were confused.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 04, 2026 11:51 AM (vbXSk)

238 {{{SMH}}}

And a hearty handshake to Ex-Ex.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 04, 2026 11:52 AM (u82oZ)

239 Half the country despises him and us. They murdered a nice guy like Charlie Kirk just for talking with them.

This is the part that troubles me most. For all of my life, the conventional wisdom has been that elections are won by the middle 10% swinging one way or the other. Now it seems like they're won by the most radical 10% forcing the issues. Can our 10% out-radical their 10%? I doubt it.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 04, 2026 11:52 AM (vTZFs)

240 "when Trump isn't actually on the ballot, those people either stay home"

Do we have any reliable stats on R turnout yet?

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 11:52 AM (Jr5Lq)

241 We all know who Dugin is, and how he is aligned with the above noted US podcastians. Cucker went to Russia to fellatio him in ..2025 I think.

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:53 AM (AKptf)

242
Just did that, online.

My county turned blue.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 04, 2026 11:45 AM (u82oZ)

That will have both sides courting us now. The undecided middle.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 11:53 AM (1K8XZ)

243 and now Dugin is posting here; be gone, Satan!

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:53 AM (AKptf)

244 I've said over and over for years that TX isn't the state that people think it is.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at November 04, 2026 11:53 AM (g8Ew8)

245 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all.

So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. “

2 Corinthians 4:16-18

Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2026 11:53 AM (upeQk)

246 By the way (repeating myself) I wonder if Talarico will implode somehow. The man had disappeared for 11 days at the height of his campaign. There's something wrong with him.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (mmrXZ)

Oh, I know! It's so weird that Dems don't care how alarming he is. I mean, the voters, not the party.

Publius was eeyoring all over the place last night. It was a real drag. But of course, that's a reasonable reaction.

I'm looking forward to analysis of the SC votes. Since SC is an open primary state, people don't register R/D. I know it's the fastest-growing state right now and unfortunately there's no way to put up a wall to keep lefties out.

Back to distracting ewe tube videos. Not in the mood for politics right now.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 04, 2026 11:54 AM (w6EFb)

247 Did anyone see Amy Acton's speech?
What a Costco 6 mess?

Ace is going to have so much material.
And Abdul in Michigan? I have some theories. We'll talk in 6 months.

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 11:54 AM (Sco7b)

248 With the internet it is harder to arrest people sure. But the answer to that should be more severe punishment. If we started hanging people/droning people for hacking and broadcast it on TV internet security wouldn't be such a difficult field...
Posted by: 18-1 at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (sKqQm)

I have long advocated for extraterritorial enforcement to be used against hackers, scammers, and spammers that use the Internet or cellular phone system to victimize Americans (or Canadians). If Mohammed in Rawalpindi is running a cellphone scam, send a hit team to put a bullet in his head. No arrest, no trial, just a bullet.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2026 11:54 AM (0kX4S)

249 Remember the guy whose "smart" chastity cage got hacked and then the hackers held his weiner for ransom?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Yep. Funny as fuck.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:55 AM (r2Icn)

250 But Gina ran on reducing property taxes.
A Dem.
To the right of Republicans.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
----
By pushing an income tax. The first 2 years will be chaos in the legislature. School vouchers anre anslo dead. Everyone that knows what they are doing will be out. It will be the next leg 2 years later where the big changes will happen. Expect no one knowing what's going on or how to do things for now.
3 lefty womyn are in charge of Texas now. 🤬🤯
They all went to UT Austin. Their cycles will sync and it will be crazy town.

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 11:55 AM (EneHm)

251 Last night was very much directed at Trump on a visceral, personal level.

I dont believe these states changed in a meaningful way ideologically or demographically. They're just sick of Trump's schtick.

A lot of "conservative" ballot props actually passed, it's just voters wanted to send a message to Trump and they felt voting dems or sitting out was the way to do that.

I take no glee in this, I would love it if Trump was a popular President and got more Republicans elected, but its just not the case.

If I was a Dem, I'd want conservatives to be waving the Trump flag forever as it went (further) off the cliff.

Posted by: engine at November 04, 2026 11:55 AM (y8NCE)

252 God is still in control, so I have to keep that in mind.

But He'll let us wander in the desert for a generation if we vote for it.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 04, 2026 11:55 AM (vTZFs)

253 Gas is under $3/gallon in Texas.

They just elected Talarico.

It wasn't about the price of gas.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (viF8m)
======

It was about the price of gas and the attendant inflationary spiral. Oil prices have dropped 2% since yesterday. But people are looking at their bank balances, the vacation trips they had to cancel, the price of food, diesel is still high, etc. It takes time shake the perception that the economy sucks. I noticed that the Dems dropped their references to the price of gas in the last two weeks, too.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 11:55 AM (rj6Yv)

254 226
This freaking pervert/creep Talarico got elected over me?
Posted by: Beto O'Rourke at November 04, 2026 11:49 AM (OkYzo)

His 11 day disappearing act wasn't due to mental fatigue, he pulled out the Biden card and it worked wonders for him.

Posted by: tryhardneckbeard at November 04, 2026 11:55 AM (lLeLE)

255 "when Trump isn't actually on the ballot, those people either stay home"

Do we have any reliable stats on R turnout yet?
Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 11:52 AM (Jr5Lq)
______

What I've seen so far is much closer to 2022 than 2024. Which would tend to confirm my theory.

We also lost winnable governor and mayor races last year because our turnout was terrible. Again, it tends to confirm my theory.

I also think we were saddled with some problematic candidates. Wtf was Graham's sister doing running? Who were those clowns in GA? Our guys and gals had so little star appeal I couldn't even keep them straight.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

256 "
Insurrection Barbie
@DefiyantlyFree
·
2h
While you were sleeping, the new right developed intellectual theories, partnerships with shady foreign interests, a pipeline directly into government, media, influencers, everything but actual voters. And if there’s anything they learned from the primaries, it’s that Trump still had control over his base and his movement. How do you fix that before 2028? You hand him an epic loss so you can spend two years fighting over the future of the Republican Party."

Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:56 AM (AKptf)

257 36 28 19 14 We just need refrigerators to keep the beer cold. And if we are being honest, not that cold.

That's why God created whiskey.

as a refrigerant?

Posted by: anachronda at November 04, 2026 11:08 AM (oY6Yp)

Alcohol can be used as a refrigerant...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

The Russians had the Tupolev Tu-22 ("Blinder") – Its air conditioning system used a total-loss evaporative cooling tank filled with a mixture of 40% ethanol and 60% distilled water earning it nicknames like the "Supersonic Booze Carrier".

Posted by: Gmac-WTF did you think was going to happen at November 04, 2026 11:57 AM (Q/FnY)

258 Which is why they really shouldn't be software-based, at all. When you convert a mechanical system to a software system, you turn a likely reliable machine into something that is increasingly unstable and ephemeral.
Posted by: GWB at November 04, 2026 11:18 AM (kU0PQ)

True even for non IOT stuff. The old microwave ovens with a mechanical timer never failed at all. On a modern one, if the keypad or display cacks out, it's unfixable.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 04, 2026 11:57 AM (0kX4S)

259
The county sheriffs here in Texas for the most part will not go along with the sanctuary stuff.
Posted by: Mister Scott

They have a choice?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 04, 2026 11:57 AM (Cqx++)

260 10 ) It lost us the midterms.
Posted by: The James Madison"

---
*Looks up - shrugs*
Right.
The war caused higher gas prices. And higher gas prices have never been a factor in previous elections per TJM.

Posted by: M'kay at November 04, 2026 11:57 AM (anL5R)

261 I think gas prices were in the mix, but I legit think 10-1 the issue was more about going to war with Iran and Trump looking reckless.

Even the war in Ukraine was why gas prices spiked, Republicans would have weathered that. It was around the same price in 2022 under Biden and Dems did fine.

Posted by: engine at November 04, 2026 11:57 AM (y8NCE)

262 @ 164 So, how many changed their voter registration to independent today like I did? Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (1K8XZ)
____________________________

Daaaaaang. I told the Registrar of Voters in Jefferson Parish to change my registration to (I) back in the late '70s. Never looked back.

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 11:58 AM (ayRl+)

263 "3 lefty womyn are in charge of Texas now. 🤬🤯
They all went to UT Austin. Their cycles will sync and it will be crazy town.
Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 11:55 AM"

Whoa.
What does this mean for the future of TXMoMes?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at November 04, 2026 11:58 AM (RDhJX)

264 Now it seems like they're won by the most radical 10% forcing the issues. Can our 10% out-radical their 10%? I doubt it.
Posted by: Oddbob

They give lots of free shit. To buy off their voters. Works.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:58 AM (r2Icn)

265 Probably 90% of the flyers and texts I got from Rs in TX were about trannies.
Ads were the same.
And I saw same for Rs in other states.

That's not a campaign platform, that's a side-issue.

Talarico "assumed the sale" most of his ads were on what he was going to do.
Paxton? "trannie, trannie, trannie, no-gender God, oh btw and here's somethings I did as AG."
I literally cannot think of one thing he said he was going to do if elected.

But that's nitpicking--no statewide R was going to win last night in TX.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 04, 2026 11:59 AM (RqSb8)

266 Whoa.
What does this mean for the future of TXMoMes?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty
----
All are gun grabbers

Posted by: lin-duh at November 04, 2026 11:59 AM (EneHm)

267 Wondering if ACE or a mod could repost "Warden"'s "Where Do We Go From Here" post from after the 2008 election.

I think we could all use it today.

Posted by: Delurker at November 04, 2026 11:59 AM (2Drhq)

268 Did anyone see Amy Acton's speech?
==
She makes Kamala Harris seem sober.

Posted by: M'kay at November 04, 2026 11:59 AM (anL5R)

269 I thought Trump promised to blow up Iran today...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 11:59 AM (4WM7K)

270
Talarico resigns.

Hinojosa appoints Jasmine Crockofit.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 04, 2026 11:59 AM (eRlcH)

271 Anthony Constantino who is leading in NY -21 blew up at NY Rep party calling them scumbags and grifters. He included Blakeman.
For the most part he's not wrong

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 12:00 PM (8VNAp)

272 “ Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day. For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all.

So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal. “

2 Corinthians 4:16-18
Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2026 11:53 AM (upeQk)
___

Amen, Marcus.

Thank you so much for this.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 04, 2026 12:00 PM (TJRes)

273 Izzit just me, or do the 'pubs look now like the ending of a movie called 'Thelma and Louise' … ? Just askin' …

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 12:00 PM (ayRl+)

274 232 Most voters don’t spend their days analyzing every piece of data like oh gdp is up 3% kudos to you dear chap Donald. They know Trump is in office, gas is $4 it was under $3 before the war he started. And they’re pissed off.

Gas is under $3/gallon in Texas.

They just elected Talarico.

It wasn't about the price of gas.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 11:47 AM (viF8m)
________

Agree. See my comment above. Our GOtV efforts are terrible and without Trump we just aren't motivated.

The GOP "brand" is dogshit. Polls worse than genital herpes. But MAGA is a much bigger tent. People vote for Trump who wouldn't vote for a rando GOP candidate. But when Trump isn't actually on the ballot, those people either stay home or -- gasp -- vote for the Dum.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 04, 2026 11:50 AM (iFTx/)

I don't know what happened in my state, Texas, last night. My best guess is every pro-abortion, pro-tranny, pro-open borders, and tax the rich person voted, and too many Republicans stayed home out of apathy, stupidity, or I don't know what.

Posted by: Gref at November 04, 2026 12:00 PM (5rh/l)

275 >>I take no glee in this, I would love it if Trump was a popular President and got more Republicans elected, but its just not the case.

Trump was elected president, 3 times, and has delivered on what he promised and more.

Texas just elected a talking penis. Michigan elected jihadist. If you think this was about hating Trump you probably voted for Ron or Haley.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 12:01 PM (viF8m)

276 (((lin-duh)))

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at November 04, 2026 12:01 PM (TJRes)

277 "I thought Trump promised to blow up Iran today..."

Radio silence at truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump for 12 hours. Isn't this unusual?

Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 12:01 PM (Jr5Lq)

278 185 DeSantis actually got populist laws passed.
Posted by: Nova Local at November 04, 2026 11:35 AM (Gb7+b)

Yes, eliminated the real estate tax.
Posted by: runner at November 04, 2026 11:38 AM (AKptf)

No, it didn't.

Posted by: one hour sober at November 04, 2026 12:01 PM (J4Dwc)

279 Radio silence at truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump for 12 hours. Isn't this unusual?
Posted by: gp at November 04, 2026 12:01 PM (Jr5Lq)

His advisors probably took his phone away

Posted by: It's me donna at November 04, 2026 12:02 PM (4WM7K)

280 265 Now it seems like they're won by the most radical 10% forcing the issues. Can our 10% out-radical their 10%? I doubt it.
Posted by: Oddbob

They give lots of free shit. To buy off their voters. Works.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 04, 2026 11:58 AM (r2Icn)

Free shit is a pretty strong policy position at present. Fiscal conservatism is basically dead.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at November 04, 2026 12:02 PM (okun6)

281
I disagree with some of the above.

I do think that the war in Iran was a mistake of timing.

Trump and his people had to know that prices would rise just as they were going down to comfortable levels after Biden.

Would waiting 8 months or a year have mattered? Till after the election.

Only if Trump received intelligence that Iran had a bomb ready to deliver on Israel or us, does a war at that time make sense.

And BONUS! Conducting a "kind war" to leave infrastructure, etc intact and minimize the death toll, assuming the anti-gov't forces would take over once the mullahs and gov't were decapitated was...well, misreading the situation. Short of flattening everything in sight instantly like in a real war, this was going to last, at least a year or two.

So, now the Dims will hand Iran a victory. America's blood and treasure wasted and revenge will be sought. Plus, the USA now becomes Flambe' France.

Terrific.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 04, 2026 12:02 PM (YSUhf)

282 Posted by: Marcus T at November 04, 2026 11:53 AM (upeQk)

Thank you, Marcus T.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 12:02 PM (JrHfD)

283 I hate to say it, but Trump has been his own worst enema [sic].

Posted by: Dr_No at November 04, 2026 12:03 PM (ayRl+)

284 I think gas prices were in the mix, but I legit think 10-1 the issue was more about going to war with Iran and Trump looking reckless.

Even the war in Ukraine was why gas prices spiked, Republicans would have weathered that. It was around the same price in 2022 under Biden and Dems did fine.
Posted by: engine at November 04, 2026 11:57 AM (y8NCE)
====

The conflict with Iran was necessary and vital to US national security. Period. It temporarily increased (bigly), the price of energy. Iran's response to US strikes simply demonstrated their regional capacity to hold the world's oil energy needs hostage for the furtherance of their imperialist ambitions. Fortunately, we have a president willing to pay the political price to stop them.

Posted by: mrp at November 04, 2026 12:03 PM (rj6Yv)

285 Nood
Ace

Posted by: Stateless - Ralphy 106.5 years old - puppy at heart at November 04, 2026 12:03 PM (Sco7b)

286 In a world...where Texas is run by three lefty females whose menstrual cycles have become synced...

Posted by: Rod Sterling voice at November 04, 2026 12:03 PM (RDhJX)

287 I've been working in tech, starting with support and security, since 1998. All of my appliances are 'dumb' and old. Nothing to hack.

I am VERY leery of internet connectivity for most things. You can blame playing too much Cyberpunk and Shadowrun and GURPS Ultra Tech in the early 90's I guess.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at November 04, 2026 12:03 PM (s1VwS)

288 Ace is up and NOOD

Posted by: Any better, I'd be twins at November 04, 2026 12:04 PM (2CeDH)

289 Wow.... Talirico got elected.

Ilan Omar re-elected with like 75% of the vote.

Every State race won by Dems with 63% or 64%.

Gerrymandered Calif House seats won by... Dems... as they planned.

I was gobsmacked by this countries reaction to Covid, not sure what to do with this insanity.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 04, 2026 12:05 PM (mP0Kj)

290 A theory: Trump is focused more on the long game. With Iran, take their grip (Strait of Hormuz) out of the middle east equation. Tarrifs will eventually bring more production to the USA. None of this happens overnight, or even in a couple years. But it is a long game strategy.

Unfortunately, the electorate is what about me, right now. I think Trump lost sight of this.

The GOP did absolutely nothing in the last 2 years. Yeah, yeah the BBB. The party is run by, and full of drifters. At the expense of us, they got their comeuppance. We got rid of some (Collins).

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 04, 2026 12:05 PM (XHS5D)

291 >>Your analysis would be so much more persuasive if you hadn't gotten literally everything wrong leading up to the election. You didn't know this tsunami was coming; why do you think you're an authority on what caused the thing you didn't think was happening?

No Scogg, I didn't. Neither did you. And you are wrong about virtually everything.

I thought we could overcome the left's anger and hate and hold the Senate in the midterms. I was wrong. But I'm not wrong about how much they hate us or the coming color revolution.

Feel free to take more shots before you get banned. Again.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 04, 2026 12:05 PM (viF8m)

292 I think it's really helpful to have the conservative posters at ASHQto call each other names and blame each other for their prognostications , etc./So very, very helpful/ sarc. I'm out for today for a lovely walk in the sunshine.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 04, 2026 12:06 PM (JrHfD)

293 Mark Texeira former Yankees 1st baseman won a Congressional seat from Tex. As someone pointed out , at least the GOP will never lose another congressional baseball game

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 04, 2026 12:06 PM (8VNAp)

294 ’Scuse if this is a Dumb-Ass Question, but: WTF is the 'color revolution' that's referred to in Post 293? I've heard the term before, but have never seen it 'splained. 'Splain me, Lucy …

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