Ninth Circuit Panel: No, You Can't Discriminate Against Christians Just Because They Refuse To Say They'd Support Transing Their Children

Oregon attempted to block a Christian woman from adopting a child because she refused to say she'd support genital mutilation for the child if the child hypothetically decided to be "Trans."

The Ninth Circuit Court of appeals overturned Oregon's decision and rebuked them for blatant invidious discrimination.

Judges nominated by presidents Trump, Clinton and George W. Bush walk into a First Amendment case about compelled affirmation of gender identity and facilitation of medicalized transitions as a condition of adoption. The punchline may surprise you.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Thursday blocked Oregon's Department of Human Services from denying Jessica Bates' application to adopt the siblings she is fostering based on her refusal to honor the asserted gender identity of "hypothetical adopted children" in speech or actions, with the Trump and Clinton nominees overruling the Bush nominee.
U.S District Judge Adrienne Nelson, nominated by President Biden, denied a preliminary injunction for the widowed Christian mother of five in 2023, arguing the failure to "respect a child's LGBTQ+ identity imposes collateral harm on the child's development, safety, and physical well-being."

Of course. Note that is the lowly district court judge making the original lawless ruling. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, acting through a three-judge panel, then overruled this woke cow.

Oregon has "training materials" for prospective adoptive parents, called "RAFT." One of the "guidances" this woke manual demands is fealty to the trans cause for all adoptive parents.

"Oregon only initiated its investigation into Bates's beliefs after she expressed disagreement with the RAFT training," which it said defines its "expectation" for adhering to the regulation that adoption applicants "respect, accept and support" the gender identity of adoptive children, said the opinion by Judge Daniel Bress, joined by Judge Michael Hawkins.
"In the context of raising children, such respect and support inevitably both restricts and compels speech," as Judge Nelson found, they said, dinging Bush nominee Judge Richard Clifton's dissent for botching the factual record and hence the correct review standards.
"The situation would be no different if the state had restricted parental speech favoring more 'progressive' views of sexuality and gender identity, while compelling speech along the lines of Bates's more traditional understanding," according to the opinion.
The duo said a "state's general conception of the child's best interest does not create a force field against the valid operation of other constitutional rights," such that it could deny adoption based on the "political view, race, or religious affiliations" of prospective parents.

This is unbelievable: Oregon will refuse you an adoption if you won't take your children to "pride" sexual kink events and fetish parades.

Oregon deems as unfit prospective parents who won't take young children "to events like pride parades," as ODHS explicitly demanded of Bates, which is "false and incredibly dangerous," Bates's lawyer Jonathan Scruggs of the Alliance Defending Freedom said in celebrating the ruling.
"The 9th Circuit was right to remind Oregon that the foster and adoption system is supposed to serve the best interests of children, not the state's ideological crusade," he said.
...
Oregon's RAFT training is far-reaching even by the standards of gender affirmation, resembling a Canadian gender studies course more than American adoption requirements.
The Bress opinion recounts its distinctives, referring to children by the LGBTQ variant "LGBTQI2-S," which is common in Canada and whose last abbreviation means "two-spirit," a modern indigenous term of disputed authenticity.
RAFT claims "an infinite number of pronouns" exist and that prospective parents must always ask for them first. Regardless of whether their children identify as LGBTQ, parents should display "symbols indicating an LGBTQ-affirming environment" and provide books and media that celebrate LGBTQ people such as "transgender women in history."
The materials take aim at religion, claiming "faith-based communities" can be sources of "prejudice and rejection" and instructing parents not to force youth to attend religious activities "openly hostile or unsupportive of people with diverse" sexual orientation, gender identity and gender expression.
...
Adoptive parents must give children "the ability to discuss, provide, and obtain authorization for medically necessary, transition-related treatment, if desired," referring to puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones and surgeries to resemble the opposite sex that allegedly improve mental health and reduce suicides, a claim with little rigorous evidence.
...
The majority repeatedly cites RAFT examples as both strong suggestions and mandates, "broadly reflective of a particular viewpoint on sexual orientation and gender identity, which parents must actively promote under Oregon's policy."
The state's claim that it's regulating speech only "incidental to conduct" would have been "much stronger" if it "simply outlawed harassment or denigration of LGBTQ children --which Bates strongly avers she would not do," but its speech regulation "predominates," they said.

That's not the only big win this week.

Due to Trump's E.O. demanding that women's sports be reserved for -- now here's a twist -- women, the Olympic and Paralympic Committees have banned men from participating in women's sports.

Trump is rolling back Woke like Reagan rolled back the Soviet Union.

From the NYT:

The United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee quietly changed its eligibility rules on Monday to bar transgender women from competing in Olympic women's sports, and now will comply with President Trump's executive order on the issue, according to a post on the organization's website.
The new policy, expressed in a short, vaguely worded paragraph, is tucked under the category of "USOPC Athlete Safety Policy" on the site, and does not include details of how the ban will work. Nor does the new policy include the word "transgender" or the title of Mr. Trump's executive order, "Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports," referring to it instead as "Executive Order 14201." ...
The committee's new policy means that the national governing bodies of sports federations in the United States -- which oversee sporting events for all ages, from youth to masters' competitions -- now must follow the U.S.O.P.C.'s lead, according to several chief executives of sports within the Olympic movement.

The Olympic Committee is so afraid to make this change that they basically hid it and refuse to comment further on it. But apparently their hand was forced by Trump's E.O.

WATCH: “I’m very glad that we’re at a point where common sense is winning.”

🤺Fencer Stephanie Turner responds to the new US Olympic & Paralympic Committee ban of men from women’s sports | @AmericaNewsroom pic.twitter.com/HKpo8ijPA6
— ICONS (@icons_women) July 23, 2025

HOLY SHLIT: A female fencer was EXPELLED from a @USAFencing event after she refused to compete against a MALE who invaded the Women's competition.

Why is a woman getting expelled for being forced to play against a man?

We demand answers @USAFencing pic.twitter.com/jWyzbWhrab
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) April 2, 2025

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
Female fencer takes a knee to protest against her biologically male opponent during a fencing match.

The opponent, Redmond Sullivan, switched from the men's fencing team to the women's fencing team at Wagner College last year.

Sullivan shockingly started dominating the female competition after the switch was made.
During the Connecticut Division Junior Olympic Qualifiers last year, for example, Sullivan competed with the female athletes and won.
The video below reportedly took place over the weekend.
"Sullivan's female opponent was expelled from the USA Fencing event at the Univ. of Maryland over the weekend," reported ICONS.

Posted by: Ace at 05:20 PM

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1 Crazy talk.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 25, 2025 05:22 PM (ExV1e)

2 I have a Catholic bias

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 25, 2025 05:24 PM (n+Gtf)

3 Do you want my slant on it?

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2025 05:24 PM (vFG9F)

4 ah shucks

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2025 05:24 PM (vFG9F)

5 Aw. I came here to mock formatting.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:24 PM (krQz2)

6 Trump rolling back woke like Cheech and Chong rollin a fattie!

Posted by: Capatin Fantsatic at July 25, 2025 05:24 PM (VPPG8)

7 The opponent, Redmond Sullivan, switched from the men's fencing team to the women's fencing team at Wagner College last year.

Sullivan shockingly started dominating the female competition after the switch was made.
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Dominating the Dojo!

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:25 PM (krQz2)

8 Hoe-regon

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 25, 2025 05:25 PM (n+Gtf)

9 Is it the fag has a lot more reach?

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:26 PM (krQz2)

10 Girls vs Girls. All normal people know this. At least they do here.

Posted by: Eromero at July 25, 2025 05:27 PM (jgmnb)

11 I am not tired of winning!

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at July 25, 2025 05:28 PM (tykPk)

12 AZ Intel @AZ_Intel_ 2h
Cleo Laine, whose husky contralto was one of the most distinctive voices in jazz and who was regarded by many as Britain's greatest contribution to the quintessentially American music, has died. She was 97. - AP

Posted by: andycanuck at July 25, 2025 05:28 PM (2yoRf)

13 Pulp Fiction, regarding the keying of Vincent's car:

Vincent: Boy, I wish I could've caught him doing it. I'd have given anything to catch that asshole doing it. It'd been worth him doing it just so I could've caught him doing it.

That's kinda how I feel about all these victories. It's almost worth it that the left went so batshit crazy to see all of these victories slam down on their dum little heads.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 25, 2025 05:28 PM (bNf8H)

14 Hallelujah! This has been going on for years, btw.

Posted by: pookysgirl at July 25, 2025 05:28 PM (Wt5PA)

15 two-spirit," a modern indigenous term of disputed authenticity.

But do they have a casino?

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 25, 2025 05:29 PM (GdbU+)

16 This is a good decision, but we need to go back to imprisoning people that want to trans, aka sexually mutilate, children.

Posted by: 18-1 (who lives in the northern tundra) at July 25, 2025 05:30 PM (t0Rmr)

17
Does Italicania even exist anymore, or has it been buried under the Muzzie invasions?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh! Point&Laugh![ at July 25, 2025 05:30 PM (Tv15w)

18 Ken Burns' "The Last Days of PBS"

*mournful violin plays*

*very slow zoom on picture of Ken Burns with fork in hand staring at a plate with a single small block of tofu upon it. Beside the plate is a glass of tepid creek water*

*very slow zoom on writing upon an iPhone's screen*

My Dearest Olivia,

I hesitate to tell you, my dearest, of the hard times which have fallen upon me.

No longer have I been able to attend swanky parties in Manhattan with those delightful Cambodian shrimp rolls, but have instead been forced to subsist on one meager portion of tofu per day and a single glass of water

Due to the terrible financial restrictions placed upon PBS by the rampaging Trump, I have been forced to cancel my series on The American Pancake, and its terrible racist origins in white supremacy.

Be strong my darling for there is a glimmer of hope. I have made the acquaintance of a furry man about town known as Ace who has promised to take me on a so-called "hobo hunt" this Friday evening. He assures me that a great feast shall be the result of this hunt, and that our empty stomachs shall be filled.

Take care sweet Edith. Perhaps this Ace fellow can help me find financial succor.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2025 05:31 PM (iJfKG)

19 It is startling and horrifying to realize how widely and deeply rooted Wokism has become in such a short period of time. As if the scheme had been worked out in advance and its armies readied and ruthless.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2025 05:32 PM (h/ffs)

20 I ain't no ways tahrd of all the winin'

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 25, 2025 05:32 PM (sFNX2)

21 I’m a ‘two-spirit’ … ‘fuck’ and ‘you’

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 25, 2025 05:32 PM (aeiyZ)

22 Anybody else getting the SPAM message?

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:33 PM (krQz2)

23 Oregon will refuse you an adoption if you won't take your children to pride sexual kink events and fetish parades.
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"They just want to visit each other in the hospital."

(Always note they used the goodness and compassion of Christians to foist this new world of abuse and perversion upon them.)

Posted by: ... at July 25, 2025 05:33 PM (E0p3T)

24 On a related note, Nintendo is making a Zelda movie. I suspect after the success of their Mario movie they are seeing $$$ in their future.

The left demanded they cast a tranny as the titular Zelda.

Nintendo said iee, iya, uun, chotto, muri, and fuck you assholes no fucking way.

Posted by: 18-1 (who lives in the northern tundra) at July 25, 2025 05:33 PM (t0Rmr)

25 A+ naturalfake

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2025 05:33 PM (vFG9F)

26 >> Sullivan [the guy cosplaying as a girl] shockingly started dominating the female competition after the switch was made.

Shockingly…. I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

Inconceivable!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:33 PM (WdMlw)

27 Oregon deems as unfit prospective parents who won't take young children "to events like pride parades,"
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Second state on my list of states to try not to step foot in.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:34 PM (krQz2)

28 Oregon should really be asking would be adopters if they have any plans of packing the kids and their lesbo wife into a minivan and driving off a cliff.

Posted by: 18-1 (who lives in the northern tundra) at July 25, 2025 05:34 PM (t0Rmr)

29 "But do they have a casino?"

Yes, they do, but you have to play blackjack against yourself.

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 25, 2025 05:34 PM (sFNX2)

30 Trump is rolling back Woke like Reagan rolled back the Soviet Union.

I'm out. See you on the next thread.

Posted by: Rachel Corrie at July 25, 2025 05:34 PM (IhVqi)

31 On a related note, Nintendo is making a Zelda movie. I suspect after the success of their Mario movie they are seeing $$$ in their future.

The left demanded they cast a tranny as the titular Zelda.

Nintendo said iee, iya, uun, chotto, muri, and fuck you assholes no fucking way.

Posted by: 18-1 (who lives in the northern tundra) at July 25, 2025 05:33 PM (t0Rmr)
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Nintendo reportedly rejected earlier Mario scripts that they deemed too woke and girlbossy.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 25, 2025 05:34 PM (aeiyZ)

32 Sullivan [the guy cosplaying as a girl] shockingly started dominating the female competition after the switch was made.

The reminds me of an argument Dean Cain got into with some lefties.

He said he didn't believe trannies were really women. The lefties said that they didn't believe he was really superman.

His response?

Yeah, I was acting, just like these trannies.

Posted by: 18-1 (who lives in the northern tundra) at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (t0Rmr)

33 Does this mean we have to stop talking about the role Bjork’s thighs played in the Civil War?

Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (77rzZ)

34 Oregon will refuse you an adoption if you won't take your children to pride sexual kink events and fetish parades.
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"They just want to visit each other in the hospital."
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x1000!

Let the camel warm his nose under the tent--but now the camel is humping you in your cot.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)

35 So I’m not taking umbrage at Elric’s SS dis.To each his own and more for me, I say, but, I have been having a debate with myself on the 1-10 scale. To wit, is it stanine ir normal distribution? If stanine, then Elric’s mid could be a 7or 8, but normal distribution would make 83% 4-6, as “mid”

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (hlNLQ)

36 Does this mean we have to stop talking about the role Bjork’s thighs played in the Civil War?
Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (77rzZ)
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I'm a big admirer of General Bjorksthighs

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:36 PM (krQz2)

37 >>> 34 Oregon will refuse you an adoption if you won't take your children to pride sexual kink events and fetish parades.
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"They just want to visit each other in the hospital."
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x1000!

Let the camel warm his nose under the tent--but now the camel is humping you in your cot.
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (krQz2)

%#*&^#*)(&^ camel is humping my goat!!!

Posted by: Mohammed Achmed Jihad at July 25, 2025 05:36 PM (ULPxl)

38 Nintendo reportedly rejected earlier Mario scripts that they deemed too woke and girlbossy.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 25, 2025 05:34 PM (aeiyZ)
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Very un-Karl-Farbman-like.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:37 PM (krQz2)

39 A few homosexuals I know out here quietly replaced the “new” flag with the old one, before the black and brown and pink and bright blue stripes and triangles and circles.

Too bad they aren’t more vocal. The gays and lesbians could really make the trans stuff go away, very very quickly.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 05:37 PM (mT+6a)

40 A three judge panel from the Ninth Circuit also blocked California’s unconstitutional ammunition sales restrictions.

Is everything OK out there ?

Posted by: Marcus T at July 25, 2025 05:38 PM (WiETh)

41 He said he didn't believe trannies were really women. The lefties said that they didn't believe he was really superman.

His response?

Yeah, I was acting, just like these trannies.
Posted by: 18-1 (who lives in the northern tundra) at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (t0Rmr)
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When they release something from their mouth, they really seem to have no idea how relevant it is, or what direction it will go.

Like Dean Cain walked around telling himself "I'm Superman"....

The mind boggles.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:38 PM (krQz2)

42 IIRC, Trump remade the 9th Circuit.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025 05:38 PM (ZmEVT)

43 The Pacific Coast has become a concentration camp for druggies and the insane aka People Without Homes.

And I am fine with that.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 25, 2025 05:38 PM (wBaIH)

44 >>> 39 A few homosexuals I know out here quietly replaced the “new” flag with the old one, before the black and brown and pink and bright blue stripes and triangles and circles.

Too bad they aren’t more vocal. The gays and lesbians could really make the trans stuff go away, very very quickly.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 05:37 PM (mT+6a)

Have any trannies accused them of 'genocide' yet???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:39 PM (ULPxl)

45 Oregon…. Can’t figure it out. I think it’s a city/rural thing again (like everywhere). I have relatives in Grants Pass and it’s a reasonably sane place…. But we all know how whacked out they are in Portland… and I’m guessing Eugene is the same way (university town). Add in Phil Knight’s big corp and you get the insane stew that is Oregon state government. It’s even worse (probably) than CA which takes some doing….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:39 PM (WdMlw)

46 And this is one thing that I do not think certain advocates for gay people do not get when they chide us for lumping all gays in together with the pedophiles and the transition and the drag show crowd. They seem far more concerned with how their movement is perceived than with whether kids are getting abused.

Nevermind. Probably should take a break on this thread.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 05:39 PM (zZu0s)

47 My husband and I sat through an insufferable training program in WV (named PRIDE) in hopes of adopting (fostering was part of the program). The woman leading it was one step about World Star Hip-Hop. We were all captive to her lectures against whiteness. My husband was totally disgusted by the program and wanted nothing to do with it. So many kids in desperate situations. Sad all around.

Posted by: Coki at July 25, 2025 05:39 PM (Wkrcf)

48 When the 9th Circus tells you you're too woke, you're too f-ing woke...

Posted by: bearski at July 25, 2025 05:39 PM (Bhsk7)

49 If stanine, then Elric’s mid could be a 7or 8, but normal distribution would make 83% 4-6, as “mid”
Posted by: Farmer Bob

That’s before the offset for blood alcohol content.

Posted by: Kratwurst at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (36bTp)

50
Trump is rolling back Woke like Reagan rolled back the Soviet Union.

Does Trump have any allies equivalent to Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (63Dwl)

51 rolling back Woke like Reagan rolled back the Soviet Union.

Just don't leave any of the wall available for pantifa to throw.

Posted by: DaveA at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (FhXTo)

52 [O/T -- but near and dear to the heart of the horde:]

Nick Sortor
@nicksortor

🚨 JUST IN: The Trump admin has DE-REGULATED gas cans, per EPA Admin Lee Zeldin

Gas cans have gotten so ridiculously complicated that there are literal TUTORIAL VIDEOS on how to use them.

If you’ve ever used one, you know what I mean

Old fashioned gas cans are now LEGAL again!

https://is.gd/iXCLd8

[WooHoo -- #WinningFatigueNotFound!]

Posted by: ShainS -- December 9th, 2016: A Date Which Will Live In Infamy! at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (/oBpS)

53 Willowed: 6 IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE OVER 25 YEARS AGO MY COLLEAGUE REFERRED TO NPR AS "NATIONAL COMMIE RADIO."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025
*
I've referred to it as National Proletariat Radio for years and years. Pissed off any leftist friends I had.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 25, 2025

***
I thought everybody called it "National Propaganda Radio."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (omVj0)

54 I have a Catholic bias
Posted by: vmom

I have a sick-call crucifix. One of the other grandkids must have gotten the bias.

Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (DgGvY)

55 >>> 41
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Like Dean Cain walked around telling himself "I'm Superman"....

The mind boggles.
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:38 PM (krQz2)

Don't forget threatening to beat up or kill anyone who refused to call him Superman.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (ULPxl)

56 Look I'm just going to say if Sydney Sweeney sat down next to me at a bar and asked me to tell her all about the Holy Roman Empire, but really slow and sexy like, I wouldn't say no.

Posted by: 18-1 (who lives in the northern tundra) at July 25, 2025 05:41 PM (t0Rmr)

57 Like Dean Cain walked around telling himself "I'm Superman"....

The mind boggles.
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:38 PM (krQz2)

Don't forget threatening to beat up or kill anyone who refused to call him Superman.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (ULPxl)
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Well, they should only be thrown in jail if they won't.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:42 PM (krQz2)

58 49- ah, the plus 2, adjust by one for every hour that passes after 8 formula? I’m familiar with it.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:42 PM (hlNLQ)

59 Does Trump have any allies equivalent to Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II?

The Italian, the Brazilian, the Argentinian (or Peruvian), the Hungarian, etc.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025 05:42 PM (ZmEVT)

60 Like Dean Cain walked around telling himself "I'm Superman"....

The mind boggles.
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:38 PM (krQz2)

Don't forget threatening to beat up or kill anyone who refused to call him Superman.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (ULPxl)

Its called method acting, doncha know!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:42 PM (nrfI8)

61
The gays and lesbians could really make the trans stuff go away, very very quickly.
Posted by: nurse ratched

IF they wanted to. There's strength in numbers.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2025 05:42 PM (63Dwl)

62 Gen. Bjorksthighs really screwed up at Fredericksburg.

But, to be fair, the Union Army was really distracted by her striking style of pubic hair.

Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 05:43 PM (77rzZ)

63 Look I'm just going to say if Sydney Sweeney sat down next to me at a bar and asked me to tell her all about the Holy Roman Empire, but really slow and sexy like, I wouldn't say no.

Faulty premise. It ain't ever going to happen.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025 05:43 PM (ZmEVT)

64 We are getting to the point where the only freedom that matters is religious freedom.

Specifically, the religious freedom of Christian nationalists, theocrats, and extremist fundamentalists.

Digusting. People like them shouldn't even be allowed to have children. They are the same people who say that are pro life, but if their kid is lgbt, they will wish that they could never been born, or will act in a way that will make their kids feel suicidal or really kill themself :/

The ADF is a Nazi hate group masquerading as a law firm.

let me see if I am getting this right; the court ruled that it is against Bates’ rights of free speech to ask her to promise that she allow the adopted child to have the right to free speech? Wtf kind of logic is that?

couldn’t it be argued that children adopted by these people are in danger as the children are potentially LGBTQ, and would be placed in a hostile environment?

I didnt know there was a constitutional right to adopt children…

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 25, 2025 05:43 PM (SIzDg)

65 President Trump: The epic saga of one man surrounding a bunch of mewling ponces.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2025 05:43 PM (tT6L1)

66 Does Trump have any allies equivalent to Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 25, 2025 05:40 PM (63Dwl)

Look South. Bukele and Milie.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 25, 2025 05:43 PM (h/ffs)

67 Its gonna take a while to teach the kids the "infinite numbers of pronouns" before asking them what they are.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:43 PM (8avO+)

68 The problem with OR is they keep electing lesbian governors that are known for nothing else

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2025 05:44 PM (TEi+a)

69 63- yep. She’s a Civil War buff.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:44 PM (hlNLQ)

70 JUST IN: The Trump admin has DE-REGULATED gas cans, per EPA Admin Lee Zeldin
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Is this a good time to mention the world is gonna burn?

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:44 PM (krQz2)

71 Posted by: Coki at July 25, 2025 05:39 PM (Wkrcf)

I'm sorry . That sounds really difficult when you were just trying to help kids.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:44 PM (2GCMq)

72 Does Trump have any allies equivalent to Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II?

I think that guy that's always on the run in Argentina, the El Salvador guy and one other

Posted by: DanMan at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (8uzBS)

73 So I’m not taking umbrage at Elric’s SS dis.To each his own and more for me, I say, but, I have been having a debate with myself on the 1-10 scale. To wit, is it stanine ir normal distribution? If stanine, then Elric’s mid could be a 7or 8, but normal distribution would make 83% 4-6, as “mid”
Posted by: Farmer Bob

And now we see the beauty of the Horde's binary scale.

0 = wouldn't
1 = would

Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (DgGvY)

74 We are getting to the point where the only freedom that matters is religious freedom.

Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 25, 2025 05:43 PM (SIzDg)
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Which is why they can't post on DU....

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (krQz2)

75 Gee. Now that I finally learned how to pour gas from a new can.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (ZmEVT)

76 How many times does this crap have to go to the courts? There is no law that says the *state* can compel any form of speech and it is blatantly unconstitutional.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (e5NfL)

77 I think that guy that's always on the run in Argentina, the El Salvador guy and one other
Posted by: DanMan at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (8uzBS)

Hungary

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (VE6XX)

78 71- Fen, you’re so sweet and empathetic, almost makes me feel bad about the bawdy talk. Almost

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (hlNLQ)

79 The problem with OR is they keep electing lesbian governors that are known for nothing else
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 25, 2025 05:44 PM

* sobs *

* squirts *

Posted by: The Oregon Trail at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (0sNs1)

80 two-spirit," a modern indigenous term of disputed authenticity.

But do they have a casino?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 25, 2025 05:29 PM (GdbU+)

indigenous to a college campus on one of the coasts of the US you mean. Why only TWO SPIRITS. I WANT MORE

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (8avO+)

81 Sydney Sweeney is proof of the healthy human norm: a young, full-figured female who glories in her feminine attributes and has some personality…. In that category you don’t need to be strikingly beautiful to be very very attractive to almost any normal male!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (nrfI8)

82 At some point, they'll rule against you. And then you'll bitch. Just how it works.

There will be talk about how "that's not the rules". Whatever.

Posted by: At Some Point at July 25, 2025 05:47 PM (hk7Ln)

83 let me see if I am getting this right; the court ruled that it is against Bates’ rights of free speech to ask her to promise that she allow the adopted child to have the right to free speech? Wtf kind of logic is that?
Posted by: Intercepted Reddit Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison

Saying "I'm going to raise my child as a Christian" - not speech

Sawing off your 12-year-old's wedding tackle - speech

Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2025 05:47 PM (DgGvY)

84 73- prefer the Clysdale scale myself

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:47 PM (hlNLQ)

85 Does this mean we have to stop talking about the role Bjork’s thighs played in the Civil War?
Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (77rzZ)
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I'm a big admirer of General Bjorksthighs
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:36 PM (krQz2)

Since its Catholics, its the 30 Years War.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:47 PM (8avO+)

86 Most 20 year old women are pretty enough.

Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025 05:47 PM (ZmEVT)

87 Look I'm just going to say if Sydney Sweeney sat down next to me at a bar and asked me to tell her all about the Holy Roman Empire, but really slow and sexy like, I wouldn't say no.
*
Faulty premise. It ain't ever going to happen.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025

***
Well, no, seeing as she's much more into the Ottoman Empire!

Posted by: Ottoman Empire Historians at July 25, 2025 05:47 PM (omVj0)

88 I had to reason to buy a gas can a year or so ago...ended up tossing it because it was so goofy.

Posted by: DanMan at July 25, 2025 05:48 PM (8uzBS)

89 I have a Catholic bias
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 25, 2025 05:24 PM (n+Gtf)

I did call the Reformation "The Great Heresy" in History class when the teacher asked what Catholics called it.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:48 PM (8avO+)

90 Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (hlNLQ

LOL. I get over it. It a imajority of men over here after all.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:49 PM (2GCMq)

91 Does this mean we have to stop talking about the role Bjork’s thighs played in the Civil War?

Without that topic, what else could Yankees be smug about ?

Posted by: At Some Point at July 25, 2025 05:49 PM (hk7Ln)

92 In that category you don’t need to be strikingly beautiful to be very very attractive to almost any normal male!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (nrfI

I agree with Linus.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 05:49 PM (zZu0s)

93 Gee. Now that I finally learned how to pour gas from a new can.
Posted by: no one of any consequence at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (ZmEVT)
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Still learning piss from a boot.

Anybody got instructions?

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:49 PM (krQz2)

94 stanine

That's what Mohammed said to his wife, "stay nine!".

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 25, 2025 05:50 PM (ASjbI)

95 87 No. Sydney is NOT into the nekkid lardass on an ottoman.

Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 05:50 PM (77rzZ)

96 81- that’s a pretty good description of how it really works. If you’ve ever seen one of those “average” face aggregators by country/race, we invariably perceive them as beautiful because the have the standard markers for good genes/fertility- symmetry etc. it’s a biological imperative for a reason.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:50 PM (hlNLQ)

97 Still learning piss from a boot.

Anybody got instructions?
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025

***
TGIF: Toes Go In First

Oh. Wait. That was something else.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 25, 2025 05:51 PM (omVj0)

98 "Stanine" sounds like an amino acid you'd take as a supplement.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at July 25, 2025 05:51 PM (omVj0)

99 U.S District Judge Adrienne Nelson, nominated by President ~~Biden~~ AutoPen ...

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Fixed for historical accuracy.

Posted by: ShainS -- December 9th, 2016: A Date Which Will Live In Infamy! at July 25, 2025 05:51 PM (V9CvC)

100 In that category you don’t need to be strikingly beautiful to be very very attractive to almost any normal male!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM

An interesting phenomenon I've observed is that the taller a woman is, the less beautiful she has to be to be described as beautiful.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2025 05:51 PM (0sNs1)

101 So I’m not taking umbrage at Elric’s SS dis.To each his own and more for me, I say, but, I have been having a debate with myself on the 1-10 scale. To wit, is it stanine ir normal distribution? If stanine, then Elric’s mid could be a 7or 8, but normal distribution would make 83% 4-6, as “mid”
Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (hlNLQ)

You are assuming what his standard deviation is. And mean, I suppose.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:52 PM (8avO+)

102 That story of the Oregon mother winning at the 9th Circus should detail how these mandatory-transing regulations were created and by whom. It should be a very publicly ational exposing and humiliating expose with full doxing of these public officials responsible. In my opinion of course. It's the only way we begin turning these cesspool states around that attempt to harm children. Give them no peace I believe is the phrase.

Posted by: Rigatoni Lover at July 25, 2025 05:52 PM (4U+8N)

103 LOL. I get over it. Its a majority of men over here after all.

DanMa'am lurks...

Posted by: DanMan at July 25, 2025 05:52 PM (8uzBS)

104 An interesting phenomenon I've observed is that the taller a woman is, the less beautiful she has to be to be described as beautiful.

You have no idea.

Posted by: The 50-foot Woman at July 25, 2025 05:52 PM (bEeSt)

105 In that category you don’t need to be strikingly beautiful to be very very attractive to almost any normal male!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM

An interesting phenomenon I've observed is that the taller a woman is, the less beautiful she has to be to be described as beautiful.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 25, 2025 05:51 PM (0sNs1)

That's because she'll beat you with her high heels.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:52 PM (8avO+)

106 I ain't 'n no wayz' tur'ed of winnin'.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (17s+e)

107 I thought Trump signed an executive order about men in women's sports and yet this school violated it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (2GCMq)

108 U.S District Judge Adrienne Nelson...

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I google so you don't have to....go ahead, take a guess!

No really! Take a guess!

Posted by: Crusader at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (TN0g+)

109 Till it Shines

https://tinyurl.com/zybrdpbn

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (viF8m)

110 Never heard of this source before, but would be funny if true:

https://is.gd/6NCWpx

@SouthAsiaIndex
Just IN: - President Trump has asked Google and Microsoft to stop hiring from India or face massive tariffs.
8:24 AM · Jul 24, 2025

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (ULPxl)

111 EVERY DAY!!! we see more evidence that George Bush was a bad choice for America. Better, perhaps than Swiftboat Kerry; but still bad...

Posted by: setnaffa at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (h+GW/)

112 Does Trump have any allies equivalent to Margaret Thatcher and Pope John Paul II?

Oh, yes. He has the "biggest allies, the best".

Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (NdPqb)

113 Does this mean we have to stop talking about the role Bjork’s thighs played in the Civil War?

Without that topic, what else could Yankees be smug about ?
Posted by: At Some Point at July 25, 2025 05:49 PM (hk7Ln)

Wooden Acorns.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (8avO+)

114
"The Olympic Committee is so afraid to make this change that they basically hid it and refuse to comment further on it. But apparently their hand was forced by Trump's E.O."

- - - - - - -
Secretly, they're very happy, as it publicly gets them off the hook for the tranny nonsense, because they can simply shrug their shoulders and say "Sorry, blame Trump"

Posted by: As not seen on TV at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (TrRwQ)

115 Who knew there were still sane people in Oregon judiciary.

Posted by: Decaf at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (unUNN)

116 Men who aren't married to a woman, in other words the homos, shouldn't be allowed to adopt any children.

This is so obvious.

It's actually insane that it's allowed to happen now.

Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (E2+Uh)

117 101 So I’m not taking umbrage at Elric’s SS dis.To each his own and more for me, I say, but, I have been having a debate with myself on the 1-10 scale. To wit, is it stanine ir normal distribution? If stanine, then Elric’s mid could be a 7or 8, but normal distribution would make 83% 4-6, as “mid”
Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (hlNLQ)

You are assuming what his standard deviation is. And mean, I suppose.
Posted by: Oldcat

Hahahahha. Y’all do know that Elric is some rando on the internet who is proll 5’2 #300 with male pattern baldness and lives in his mothers basement.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (mT+6a)

118 EVERY DAY!!! we see more evidence that George Bush was a bad choice for America. Better, perhaps than Swiftboat Kerry; but still bad...
Posted by: setnaffa at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (h+GW/)
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TARP and the *spit* Patriot Act.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2025 05:55 PM (tT6L1)

119 >>> 108 U.S District Judge Adrienne Nelson...

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I google so you don't have to....go ahead, take a guess!

No really! Take a guess!
Posted by: Crusader at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (TN0g+)

Danger hair, "assigned male at birth", and/or...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:55 PM (ULPxl)

120 Just IN: - President Trump has asked Google and Microsoft to stop hiring from India or face massive tariffs.
8:24 AM · Jul 24, 2025
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (ULPxl)

How do you tariff a company inside the US?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:55 PM (8avO+)

121 100 My wife is 5'11" and happens to have enduring beauty in my mind.

I mean she's no Brittany Grimes, but who is?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 25, 2025 05:55 PM (wBaIH)

122 I thought Trump signed an executive order about men in women's sports and yet this school violated it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (2GCMq)
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I'll bet he does too.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:55 PM (krQz2)

123 >>> 120 Just IN: - President Trump has asked Google and Microsoft to stop hiring from India or face massive tariffs.
8:24 AM · Jul 24, 2025
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (ULPxl)

How do you tariff a company inside the US?
Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:55 PM (8avO+)

The code is coming from *outside* of the house!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 05:56 PM (ULPxl)

124 Damn Nurse! Burn! (Said in best Michael Kelso stoned voice)

Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:57 PM (hlNLQ)

125 Who knew there were still sane people in Oregon judiciary.

Posted by: Decaf at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (unUNN)
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I need evidence that this isn't just a fluke.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:57 PM (krQz2)

126 "The Olympic Committee is so afraid to make this change that they basically hid it and refuse to comment further on it. But apparently their hand was forced by Trump's E.O."

- - - - - - -
Secretly, they're very happy, as it publicly gets them off the hook for the tranny nonsense, because they can simply shrug their shoulders and say "Sorry, blame Trump"
Posted by: As not seen on TV at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (TrRwQ)

I want them to fear us. It keeps them out of trouble.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:57 PM (8avO+)

127 Why The F*ck hasn't Congress criminalized child psychological and physical abuse and mutilation -- with extremely severe penalties for all involved (my preference of course would be making it a capital offense)?

There aren't 7 D's in the Senate it would be in favor of that to block a filibuster?

Jeebus -- regardless, get them all on record already, Thune! This should be a slam l-dunk win ...

* spit *

Posted by: ShainS -- December 9th, 2016: A Date Which Will Live In Infamy! at July 25, 2025 05:57 PM (V9CvC)

128 In this context I can’t help but think of the tragic case that I tried to ignore sometime in the last decade…. Because it was so ugly…. Some guy in Texas, his vindictive wife (after divorce) decided to turn their boy into a girl and the courts allowed it… that is what I believe happened though I might be wrong because again it was so ugly and disturbing I tried to ignore it. The wife was a medical doctor IIRC. Evil

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:58 PM (WdMlw)

129 An interesting phenomenon I've observed is that the taller a woman is, the less beautiful she has to be to be described as beautiful.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

And shorter for "cute."

Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2025 05:58 PM (DgGvY)

130 Hahahahha. Y’all do know that Elric is some rando on the internet who is proll 5’2 #300 with male pattern baldness and lives in his mothers basement.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM

Why do you say that like it's a Bad Thing?

Posted by: Incel at July 25, 2025 05:58 PM (0sNs1)

131 Here is an attractive woman district judge for MO, but she's probably a Republican since she was appointed by Trump:

https://tinyurl.com/4sph978e

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)

132 Flight VV27 | CO3D / Microcarb | Vega C I Arianespace

On Friday July 25th, 2025, at 11:03 p.m. local time (02:03 a.m. UTC, 04:03 a.m. CEST, on July 26th, 2025), Arianespace is to launch Airbus Defence and Space's CO3D satellites, as well as the CNES's MicroCarb satellite. This mission, called “VV27” will be performed using an Arianespace operated Vega C rocket, launched from Europe's Spaceport in French Guiana.

The main passengers, the four satellites composing the CO3D constellation, as well as the auxiliary passenger, MicroCarb, will be placed in Sun-synchronous orbits. The expected total duration of the mission (from lift-off to separation of all satellites) is 1 hour and 41 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/live/mP9_UNXQrFk

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at July 25, 2025 05:59 PM (S/Y4j)

133 I thought Trump signed an executive order about men in women's sports and yet this school violated it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:53 PM (2GCMq)
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I'll bet he does too.
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:55 PM (krQz2)

You have to do a lot of cleaning up to get down to Wagner College level. Perhaps this gets his attention.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 05:59 PM (8avO+)

134 Yes, she does!

Posted by: DanMa'am at July 25, 2025 05:59 PM (8uzBS)

135 Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:58 PM (WdMlw)
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Yup. I remember that case too.

The boy would tell his father he didn't want to wear dresses, or some things like that.

Soooo Munchausen's by proxy.

She probably hates her own kid unless he can provide her with status.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 06:00 PM (krQz2)

136 An interesting phenomenon I've observed is that the taller a woman is, the less beautiful she has to be to be described as beautiful.
Posted by: Duncanthrax

And shorter for "cute."
Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2025 05:58 PM (DgGvY)

This seems right to me…. Ginger was tall and beautiful, Mary Ann was short and cute

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:00 PM (WdMlw)

137 Here is an attractive woman district judge for MO, but she's probably a Republican since she was appointed by Trump:

https://tinyurl.com/4sph978e
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)

The "It Judge"

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:00 PM (8avO+)

138 How do you tariff a company inside the US?
Posted by: Oldcat

The same way you tariff the Fords and Ford parts coming in from Mexico.

Now, how you prove software was "imported" is an exercise for the ~~reader~~ lawyers.

Posted by: mikeski at July 25, 2025 06:00 PM (DgGvY)

139 Wait, we're getting tag teamed by DanMan and DanMa'am?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2025 06:00 PM (tT6L1)

140 117 101 So I’m not taking umbrage at Elric’s SS dis.To each his own and more for me, I say, but, I have been having a debate with myself on the 1-10 scale. To wit, is it stanine ir normal distribution? If stanine, then Elric’s mid could be a 7or 8, but normal distribution would make 83% 4-6, as “mid”
Posted by: Farmer Bob at July 25, 2025 05:35 PM (hlNLQ)

You are assuming what his standard deviation is. And mean, I suppose.
Posted by: Oldcat

Hahahahha. Y’all do know that Elric is some rando on the internet who is proll 5’2 #300 with male pattern baldness and lives in his mothers basement.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 05:54 PM (mT+6a)
——

I don’t blame anyone for thinking that. But if there’s a meet next year somewhere in the northeast, maybe I’ll go. I’ll bring the Lambo.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (aeiyZ)

141 Wait, we're getting tag teamed by DanMan and DanMa'am?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2025 06:00 PM (tT6L1)

*discards first joke*

*discards second joke*

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (zZu0s)

142 Well, I did think Elric might be a literary creation since he always scores with the ladies, drives a fancy car and apparently has a penthouse with a view of the Hudson. The conservative commentator version of a lesser James Bond

There was some person several years ago who seemed to be a literary creation but that was a woman.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (2GCMq)

143 In this context I can’t help but think of the tragic case that I tried to ignore sometime in the last decade…. Because it was so ugly…. Some guy in Texas, his vindictive wife (after divorce) decided to turn their boy into a girl and the courts allowed it… that is what I believe happened though I might be wrong because again it was so ugly and disturbing I tried to ignore it. The wife was a medical doctor IIRC. Evil
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:58 PM (WdMlw)

yes, it happened.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (8avO+)

144 Yet no Commissar Judge has been tossed out of their position

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (+qU29)

145 "WATCH: “I’m very glad that we’re at a point where common sense is winning.”

🤺Fencer Stephanie Turner responds to the new US Olympic & Paralympic Committee ban of men from women’s sports"

Second look at Augusta National?
-Hootie Johnson

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (0CU3H)

146 >>> 128 In this context I can’t help but think of the tragic case that I tried to ignore sometime in the last decade…. Because it was so ugly…. Some guy in Texas, his vindictive wife (after divorce) decided to turn their boy into a girl and the courts allowed it… that is what I believe happened though I might be wrong because again it was so ugly and disturbing I tried to ignore it. The wife was a medical doctor IIRC. Evil
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 05:58 PM (WdMlw)

Evil cvnt took her *step* *twins* away from biodad and ended up moving to CA to continue her abuse.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (ULPxl)

147 Female literary creation?

TickledPink?

I still say she could have been real.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:03 PM (zZu0s)

148 Here is an attractive woman district judge for MO, but she's probably a Republican since she was appointed by Trump:

https://tinyurl.com/4sph978e
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 05:59 PM (2GCMq)

That’s a very pleasant face, Fen. However in that official judge portrait I can’t get enough info to judge the whole package if you know what I mean…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:03 PM (WdMlw)

149 Can we also ban girls from boys sports?

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:04 PM (mT+6a)

150 Well, I did think Elric might be a literary creation since he always scores with the ladies, drives a fancy car and apparently has a penthouse with a view of the Hudson. The conservative commentator version of a lesser James Bond

There was some person several years ago who seemed to be a literary creation but that was a woman.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (2GCMq)

Elric was the name of a moody Elfish (?) ruler in a fantasy series by Michael Moorcock. I don't think i've read any of them.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:04 PM (8avO+)

151 BTW, have we heard from ladyl recently?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:04 PM (zZu0s)

152 Oh the reactions to that self-own price chart are coming in.

To cut to the chase: The way Trump left the economy.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 06:05 PM (krQz2)

153 Can we also ban girls from boys sports?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:04 PM (mT+6a)

Nature tends to do that for us, but sure.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:05 PM (8avO+)

154 >>> 127 Why The F*ck hasn't Congress criminalized child psychological and physical abuse and mutilation -- with extremely severe penalties for all involved (my preference of course would be making it a capital offense)?

There aren't 7 D's in the Senate it would be in favor of that to block a filibuster?

Jeebus -- regardless, get them all on record already, Thune! This should be a slam l-dunk win ...

* spit *
Posted by: ShainS -- December 9th, 2016: A Date Which Will Live In Infamy! at July 25, 2025 05:57 PM (V9CvC)

Wasn't there some recent noise about DoJ threatening to file charges against medical types who had performed "trans" "surgeries", using an *existing* law prohibiting genital mutilation that had been written with jihadi behavior in mind?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 06:05 PM (ULPxl)

155 Evil cvnt took her *step* *twins* away from biodad and ended up moving to CA to continue her abuse.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (ULPxl)

It’s even worse somehow than I remembered

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:05 PM (WdMlw)

156 Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:03 PM (zZu0s)

Yes, that was the name.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:06 PM (2GCMq)

157 I don't think i've read any of them.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:04 PM (8avO+)

I read a few of the Moorcock books as a teen. It seemed an odd meta/multiverse. Variations on a theme.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:06 PM (zZu0s)

158 I need evidence that this isn't just a fluke.
Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 05:57 PM (krQz2)

as far as I can tell, it is a fluke.

Oregon courts have been interpreting things for the favor of the state for 150 years or more

Posted by: Kindltot at July 25, 2025 06:06 PM (D7oie)

159 Fox News = "Olympic committee is barring transgender women....." Actually no, Fox News it's MEN you shtheads.

Posted by: Rigatoni Lover at July 25, 2025 06:07 PM (4U+8N)

160 There was some person several years ago who seemed to be a literary creation but that was a woman.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (2GCMq)

I suspect our southern warrior might be from Detroit due to his hatred of the Yankees.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:07 PM (8avO+)

161 >>> 140

——

I don’t blame anyone for thinking that. But if there’s a meet next year somewhere in the northeast, maybe I’ll go. I’ll bring the Lambo.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (aeiyZ)

The NoVa MoMee isn't really NE but several NE Morons attend.

... and of course if you're in the mood for a longer drive, have I mentioned that this year's TX MoMee - also attended by several NE Morons - will be the *tenth*?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 06:07 PM (ULPxl)

162 Can we also ban girls from boys sports?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:04 PM (mT+6a)
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I want to know how parents are okay with their daughter getting grabbed in places that would land a guy in jail if he did the same thing anywhere outside the arena.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 25, 2025 06:08 PM (tT6L1)

163 Sydney Sweeney is today's buxom blonde.

The last one was Scarlett Johansson.

This goes back to Marilyn Monroe.

Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:09 PM (E2+Uh)

164 Fox News = "Olympic committee is barring transgender women....." Actually no, Fox News it's MEN you shtheads.
Posted by: Rigatoni Lover at July 25, 2025 06:07 PM (4U+8N)
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Yeah they have that in there: "trans/transgender" = "NOT"

Say "trans" but think "NOT". They are barring NOT women from women's sports.

Or heck read "trans" but say "NOT".

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 06:09 PM (krQz2)

165 153 Can we also ban girls from boys sports?
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:04 PM (mT+6a)

Nature tends to do that for us, but sure.
Posted by: Oldcat

I mean girls in boys football and baseball and scouts. Boys aren’t allowed BOY SPACES anymore. Not without some feminazi screaming misogyny.

Both sexes deserve their own space. And just because boys will be physically dominant doesn’t make it less wrong for girls to invade boys spaces.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:09 PM (mT+6a)

166 Well, I did think Elric might be a literary creation since he always scores with the ladies, drives a fancy car and apparently has a penthouse with a view of the Hudson. The conservative commentator version of a lesser James Bond

There was some person several years ago who seemed to be a literary creation but that was a woman.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:02 PM (2GCMq)
——

I’m a block from Central Park. No views of the Hudson from there.

Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at July 25, 2025 06:09 PM (aeiyZ)

167
Let's Make Women Feminine Again

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 25, 2025 06:10 PM (LWopF)

168 Does Edith Chapin vs Sydney Sweeney now enter the pantheon of horde debate topics along with:

longbows vs crossbows
.45 ACP vs 9mm
Ginger vs Mary Ann
ACW vs war of northern aggression

??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:10 PM (nrfI8)

169 Sydney Sweeney is today's buxom blonde.

The last one was Scarlett Johansson.

This goes back to Marilyn Monroe.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:09 PM (E2+Uh)

The 50s had at least a couple more - Jayne Mansfield..

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:10 PM (8avO+)

170 Now that's a sexy woman. Don't much care how tall she is.

https://tinyurl.com/mwwszrn9

Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2025 06:10 PM (viF8m)

171 The 50s had at least a couple more - Jayne Mansfield..
Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:10 PM (8avO+)
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Mamie van Doren.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 25, 2025 06:11 PM (XZ5S6)

172 ——

I’m a block from Central Park. No views of the Hudson from there.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade
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Well, it's a New York frame of mind, anyway.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 25, 2025 06:11 PM (LWopF)

173 Don’t forget the buxom brunettes — Sophia, Raquel, Barbara Hershey, etc.

Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 06:12 PM (77rzZ)

174 Pat Benatar was short and sexy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:12 PM (nrfI8)

175 I understand how you can kinda "transition" with the surgery.

But what does "trans" mean if you were born in a "boy's body" and have been a "girl" you're whole life. And "gender doesn't depend on biology" or something.

Also, shouldn't you find what boy your body belongs to and give it back?

Just the idea that it's a "transition" strongly suggests two different sides--which they otherwise say don't exist.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 06:12 PM (krQz2)

176 Transitioning is evil

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2025 06:13 PM (+qU29)

177 That fencing story is pretty old. What has happened since?

Posted by: M. Gaga at July 25, 2025 06:14 PM (BAkrB)

178 Female literary creation?

TickledPink?

I still say she could have been real.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:03 PM (zZu0s)

I always thought that "she" was a gay guy.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 25, 2025 06:14 PM (iJfKG)

179 >>>[Dean Cain] said he didn't believe trannies were really women. The lefties said that they didn't believe he was really superman.

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It sounds like a sick burn, though. I'll bet whoever said made a "mic drop" move.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 25, 2025 06:14 PM (wzAuc)

180 Come to Texas Elric. We want to see the car. I'll let you shoot a Garand at a little bitty target 1000 yards away.

Posted by: fd at July 25, 2025 06:14 PM (vFG9F)

181 Oregon Muse introduced me to Marissa Alassio, one of his finest “Who Dises?”.

Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 06:15 PM (77rzZ)

182 I mean girls in boys football and baseball and scouts. Boys aren’t allowed BOY SPACES anymore. Not without some feminazi screaming misogyny.

Both sexes deserve their own space. And just because boys will be physically dominant doesn’t make it less wrong for girls to invade boys spaces.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:09 PM (mT+6a)

We need men's clubs again too. Not the raunchy kind but places to talk about crossbows vs longbows in freedom.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)

183 >>>[Dean Cain] said he didn't believe trannies were really women. The lefties said that they didn't believe he was really superman.

--

It sounds like a sick burn, though. I'll bet whoever said made a "mic drop" move.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 25, 2025 06:14 PM (wzAuc)

Dean Cain never claimed he was Superman.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:16 PM (8avO+)

184 Dean Cain never claimed he was Superman.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:16 PM (8avO+)

Pretty sure he's a conservative too...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (VE6XX)

185 "always thought that "she" was a gay guy."

Well, that sounds like a possibility as well

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (2GCMq)

186 It sounds like a sick burn, though. I'll bet whoever said made a "mic drop" move.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 25, 2025 06:14 PM (wzAuc)

Dean Cain never claimed he was Superman.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:16 PM (8avO+)
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He dressed like him, though.

Posted by: Axeman at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (krQz2)

187 Normal gas cans are back? FREEDOM! All my dreams are coming true and we aren't even one year into the Trumpy Restoration!

Posted by: Martin Tell at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (sFNX2)

188 We need men's clubs again too. Not the raunchy kind but places to talk about crossbows vs longbows in freedom.

Posted by: Oldcat

Absolutely! Make Augusta all men again!

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (mT+6a)

189 187 Normal gas cans are back? FREEDOM! All my dreams are coming true and we aren't even one year into the Trumpy Restoration!
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (sFNX2)

Six months and change

Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (VE6XX)

190 Judges nominated by presidents Trump, Clinton and George W. Bush walk into a

bar?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (ynpvh)

191 Normal gas cans are back? FREEDOM! All my dreams are coming true and we aren't even one year into the Trumpy Restoration!
Posted by: Martin Tell at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (sFNX2)
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*brandishes cherished Rubbermaid gas can with the release valve*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 25, 2025 06:18 PM (XZ5S6)

192 82 I mean girls in boys football and baseball and scouts. Boys aren’t allowed BOY SPACES anymore. Not without some feminazi screaming misogyny.

Both sexes deserve their own space. And just because boys will be physically dominant doesn’t make it less wrong for girls to invade boys spaces.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:09 PM (mT+6a)

We need men's clubs again too. Not the raunchy kind but places to talk about crossbows vs longbows in freedom.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:15 PM (8avO+)

As a guy who wrestled in HS and love the purity of that sport it offends me that pretty much all over the country in HS girls are competing against boys in wrestling. They almost always get stomped and it’s bad for both; the girl gets manhandled and the boy faces this terrifying situation where he has to beat up a girl or face the humiliation of losing to one….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:18 PM (WdMlw)

193 Note Bene
Ace has never ever told us how few genital surgeries are actually performed in the USA kin one year.
Has anyone posting here even bothered to look it up? Or would it be a bubble breaker
In the USA the overwhelmingly "gender affirming surgeries done on minors is BREAST REDUCTION surgery on boys

Posted by: Aliassmithsmith at July 25, 2025 06:19 PM (zbGmx)

194 The Spectator Index @spectatorindex 1h
BREAKING: Cambodia has called for a ceasefire with Thailand

Posted by: andycanuck at July 25, 2025 06:19 PM (2yoRf)

195 "Normal gas cans are back? FREEDOM!"

If I knew that was coming, I would have gone long on Big Can.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 25, 2025 06:19 PM (3kTgY)

196 Absolutely! Make Augusta all men again!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (mT+6a)

But but… then severely conservative Condi Rice would have to be kicked out! Unthinkable

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:19 PM (WdMlw)

197 195 "Normal gas cans are back? FREEDOM!"

If I knew that was coming, I would have gone long on Big Can.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 25, 2025 06:19 PM (3kTgY)

Well, Hello, Sailor!

Posted by: Lena Dunham at July 25, 2025 06:20 PM (ynpvh)

198 If I were the parent of a college athlete who had been training for years and all of a sudden some guy who can't compete against men decides he's a she , I'd be livid. It's a lot of time and energy put into something and than to be unfairly treated.. if the parents were leftist before this, that kind of situation might cause them to rethink their political views.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:20 PM (2GCMq)

199 196 Absolutely! Make Augusta all men again!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (mT+6a)

But but… then severely conservative Condi Rice would have to be kicked out! Unthinkable
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

She’s part of the problem. Men deserve MEN ONLY SPACES. So do women.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (mT+6a)

200 First crushes for those of us who are 29?

Dorothy Hammill and Chrissy Everett.

Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (E2+Uh)

201 If someone beats me up for not calling him Superman and doesn't immediately atomize me, I'll know he's not Superman.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (wzAuc)

202 As a guy who wrestled in HS and love the purity of that sport it offends me that pretty much all over the country in HS girls are competing against boys in wrestling. They almost always get stomped and it’s bad for both; the girl gets manhandled and the boy faces this terrifying situation where he has to beat up a girl or face the humiliation of losing to one….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:18 PM (WdMlw)

In almost any sport a guy can seriously injure a girl accidentally. A collision is gonna be bad news for a woman. I've noticed when watching the men v woman clips how careful the men are being about incidental contact.

And why I'm so pissed at the WNBA for trying to injure Caitlin Clark for being good at the sport.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:22 PM (8avO+)

203 199 196 Absolutely! Make Augusta all men again!
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:17 PM (mT+6a)

But but… then severely conservative Condi Rice would have to be kicked out! Unthinkable
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

She’s part of the problem. Men deserve MEN ONLY SPACES. So do women.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (mT+6a)

Women deserve men only spaces?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 25, 2025 06:22 PM (ynpvh)

204 First crushes for those of us who are 29?

Dorothy Hammill and Chrissy Everett.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (E2+Uh)

Erin Grey.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:22 PM (idIpT)

205 If someone beats me up for not calling him Superman and doesn't immediately atomize me, I'll know he's not Superman.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (wzAuc)
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Supes has a "no kill" policy, though.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 25, 2025 06:22 PM (XZ5S6)

206 Old fashioned gas cans are now LEGAL again!

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they were illegal?? huh...oh well..

Posted by: runner at July 25, 2025 06:23 PM (g47mK)

207 First crushes for those of us who are 29?

Dorothy Hammill and Chrissy Everett.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (E2+Uh)

Everett was very pretty. Peggy Fleming beat out Hamill for me.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:23 PM (8avO+)

208 "In almost any sport a guy can seriously injure a girl accidentally."

Pia Cramling was impaled by a bishop at the Grand Chess Tour but she recovered.

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (3kTgY)

209 If I were the parent of a college athlete who had been training for years and all of a sudden some guy who can't compete against men decides he's a she , I'd be livid. It's a lot of time and energy put into something and than to be unfairly treated.. if the parents were leftist before this, that kind of situation might cause them to rethink their political views.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:20 PM (2GCMq)

If only more parents were actually livid. And coaches and higher ups. It must be hell on the girls who are being betrayed by ideology on those who should protect them.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (8avO+)

210 First crushes for those of us who are 29?

Dorothy Hammill and Chrissy Everett.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:21 PM (E2+Uh)

Erin Grey.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25, 2025 06:22 PM (idIpT)

Ginger Grant. I’m not kidding!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (WdMlw)

211 nood

Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (3kTgY)

212 AliasSmithSmith

Your comment is idiotic .

https://tinyurl.com/bdff9s26

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (2GCMq)

213 Erin Grey.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25,

On that MILF vibe... Linda Evans.

Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (E2+Uh)

214 "In almost any sport a guy can seriously injure a girl accidentally."

Pia Cramling was impaled by a bishop at the Grand Chess Tour but she recovered.
Posted by: It Puts The gp In The Basket at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (3kTgY)

Chess is not a sport. But I laughed.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:26 PM (8avO+)

215 Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (8avO+)

I agree with you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 25, 2025 06:26 PM (2GCMq)

216 Noodity

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at July 25, 2025 06:26 PM (wzAuc)

217 Erin Grey.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at July 25,

On that MILF vibe... Linda Evans.
Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:25 PM (E2+Uh)

Audra Barkley Linda Evans or Dallas Linda Evans?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 25, 2025 06:27 PM (8avO+)

218
Dagmar.

When you get an automobile part named after you, you got it all go'in on.

Posted by: Auspex at July 25, 2025 06:27 PM (Y8DZL)

219 Y’know, I don’t get it with these third-world countries and their border disputes.

The two countries sit down, a map of the border between them. One of them starts at the top of the map, and says, “OK, we really want this shitstain hellhole, but we’ll let you have this other shitstain hellhole in exchamge” And so on down the entire length of the map.

It’s simple horse trading. How the hell hard is that?

Posted by: Bulg at July 25, 2025 06:28 PM (77rzZ)

220 I strongly believe in the pendulum swing to public opinion and societal change. You push something so far that you horrify even the people on your side you push that pendulum way up high and once it reaches its limit it will swing back with great speed and reach as far on the other side. We are nearly at the point where the return swing begins.

Posted by: Decaf at July 25, 2025 06:28 PM (unUNN)

221 NOOD

week in woke

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 25, 2025 06:29 PM (ULPxl)

222 Dallas Linda Evans. GOAT MILF.

Posted by: Long time guy at July 25, 2025 06:30 PM (E2+Uh)

223 Sydney Sweeney is proof of the healthy human norm:

Her best asset? She smiles.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at July 25, 2025 06:30 PM (iNp3L)

224 Genocide, yeah that's what tje Gazan's wanted to do.

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2025 06:32 PM (+qU29)

225 Fk Oregon not wanting parents to bow down to Cultural Marxism.
Get out now if your thete and love your children

Posted by: Skip at July 25, 2025 06:33 PM (+qU29)

226 I think that guy that's always on the run in Argentina, the El Salvador guy and one other
Posted by: DanMan at July 25, 2025 05:45 PM (8uzBS)

Hungary
Posted by: It's me donna at July 25, 2025 05:46 PM (VE6XX)

---------------

Giorgia Meloni of Italy. She is doing a great job.

Posted by: Decaf at July 25, 2025 06:37 PM (unUNN)

227 You can't say shit about Oregon! I live in Oregon, and...uh...

...hmm...(snaps fingers)

It isn't Minnesota!

Posted by: Bombadil at July 25, 2025 07:14 PM (MX0bI)

228 I moved here (Oregon) 9 years ago. Now I'm planning my escape. Oregon is captured by the original mail in ballot and the insane asylum in Salem. The state is approximately 45% conservative but until we can get our elections under control we are screwed. Sane peeps are leaving, and UHauls are hard to come by.

Posted by: SmallTownGirl at July 25, 2025 09:06 PM (IbINE)

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