First World Problems...

Oh yes....one more example of the inherent superiority of America over Europe!

That is a bottle of Vodka. Generic vodka from France, with a supposed Russian pedigree. It's produced (as far as I can tell, and I don't care) in France, for the European market, and is bottled at a pathetic, effeminate, better for teenagers 75 proof. And before you suggest that I shop around; this is a big brand, but the other ones are also bottled at that anemic strength.

For F*ck's Sake! Man up!

Luckily, I don't drink that sh*t, and prefer American whiskey, which is imported at its normal proof. Oddly, some are stupidly expensive (Jack Daniel's for $40? No thanks). But some are reasonably priced, which is why I am drinking Bulleit 10-Year! And yes, I caved, and bought a bottle of Weller 12-Year-Old. And no, it wasn't reasonably priced, but I have never seen it anywhere in the United States, so I had to buy a bottle.

The worst part about it? The damned stuff is delicious.

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

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1 Fretting about crappy french vodka in france is like complaining about crappy russian wine in russia.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2025 02:04 PM (RlmPm)

2 Whoa dude

Posted by: Muchas buchas at July 20, 2025 02:07 PM (ODpur)

3 I'd say burn the country down, but they're already well on their way.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 20, 2025 02:07 PM (2UnvF)

4 Heh. Surrender vodka.

Posted by: Polka will never die at July 20, 2025 02:07 PM (5xvZ1)

5 I thought vodka was made from potatoes.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:08 PM (Y1Bj4)

6 4 Heh. Surrender vodka.
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 20, 2025 02:07 PM (5xvZ1)

Never tasted, dropped once?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 20, 2025 02:09 PM (RlmPm)

7 I don't think the distillers of that Vodka actually respect the ancestral traditions.

Seems... weak.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2025 02:10 PM (Q4IgG)

8 That's your rigid-pinky afternoon tea vodka. The Russian prison vodka comes out later, for the rave/homebrew tattoo party,

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at July 20, 2025 02:11 PM (AylM0)

9 Bad vodka made from potatoes. Good vodka from grains. Is being good. Thank you for to drink!

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I stand ready to Say It at July 20, 2025 02:12 PM (AOsQT)

10 Glad I don't drink anymore. Couldn't afford it.

(Not the way I drank anyway)

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2025 02:12 PM (g8Ew8)

11 ... to sap and impurify ...

Posted by: General Ripper at July 20, 2025 02:13 PM (O7YUW)

12 a pathetic, effeminate, better for teenagers 75 proof. And before you suggest that I shop around; this is a big brand, but the other ones are also bottled at that anemic strength.

Put the vodka in a metal bowl, and place it in the freezer for a few hours.

Shave some ice, and drop some shavings in the bowl. Water in the vodka will crystalize on the ice shavings. After a while, skim the ice from the bowl. What remains is higher-proof vodka.

Better living through chemistry!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2025 02:13 PM (0sNs1)

13 Your First World problem is that the whiskey is too delicious?

Oh no, B'rer Fox don't throw me in that briar patch!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 20, 2025 02:14 PM (HlyYF)

14 Most vodkas in the US are around 80 proof. It's not a huge difference.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2025 02:15 PM (TdYBy)

15 Do they have MD 20/20 in Surrenderland?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2025 02:16 PM (g8Ew8)

16 There is a reason I only drink Hood River Distillers products by choice.
Monarch, the plastic bottle makes it seem more authentic!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2025 02:16 PM (D7oie)

17 14 Most vodkas in the US are around 80 proof. It's not a huge difference.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2025 02:15 PM (TdYBy)

That's my thought.

CBD is about half a step from slurping sterno.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2025 02:17 PM (bss/y)

18 Shave some ice, and drop some shavings in the bowl. Water in the vodka will crystalize on the ice shavings. After a while, skim the ice from the bowl. What remains is higher-proof vodka.

Better living through chemistry!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2025 02:13 PM (0sNs1)

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Or just drink more of it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 20, 2025 02:17 PM (2UnvF)

19 Grey Goose is entirely a marketing gimmick. The guy who started it priced it higher than other vodka, so people assumed it must be better. People in bars bought it because they thought it made them look sophisticated and discerning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npHi2YnLNwI

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:18 PM (Riz8t)

20 I am bracing for the vodka hate

Posted by: Don Black. Message: I stand ready to Say It at July 20, 2025 02:19 PM (AOsQT)

21 So you have me confused. And I read the entire post. Is the point that it's Vodka, but not Russian ?

Posted by: Man Without A Country at July 20, 2025 02:20 PM (s6AfD)

22 Shave some ice, and drop some shavings in the bowl. Water in the vodka will crystalize on the ice shavings. After a while, skim the ice from the bowl. What remains is higher-proof vodka.

Better living through chemistry!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2025 02:13 PM (0sNs1)

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Or just drink more of it.

Right? They tell you to hydrate to avoid a hangover, so why not save a step by drinking watered down vodka?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:21 PM (Riz8t)

23 Apfelschnapps for the win!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2025 02:21 PM (g8Ew8)

24 Golf course where I play in a league has vodka lemonade.
The doubles are perfect
Got me started making lemonade again

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:21 PM (cPGH3)

25 15 Do they have MD 20/20 in Surrenderland?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2025 02:16 PM

Of course they have it.

However, you do have to perform the metric conversion of multiplying by 1.8 ... so you can find MD 36/36 on the store shelves.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 20, 2025 02:22 PM (HlyYF)

26 I'm convinced one of the major reasons Europe never landed a man on the moon is because they use commas as decimal points.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2025 02:22 PM (mlg/3)

27 I generally dislike the taste of vodka. Yes, I know it's supposed to have no taste, but I still taste it. Perhaps it's a genetic thing like cilantro.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:22 PM (Riz8t)

28 I have some wonderful Georgian chacha, made by a former Georgian vintner who lives outside of Jerusalem. It's 145 proof, smooth as can be, with a very elegant grape and earthy flavor.

Vodka? What ever for?!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2025 02:23 PM (VFv8R)

29 Or just drink more of it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 20, 2025 02:17 PM

This is exactly the sort of thinking that can lead to a callous disregard toward which side of the sequin- or rhinestone-decorated thong should be placed next to one's skin in preparation for one's terpsichorean performances on OnlyFans, leading to dermal consequences that could end one's career on said platform.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2025 02:24 PM (0sNs1)

30 If you're in France then seek out a bottle of Michel Couvreur whisky.

Posted by: Leninism at July 20, 2025 02:24 PM (nP20Y)

31 I wonder...is it a first world problem if you're not in the first world?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:24 PM (W/lyH)

32 BTW, was it ever explained why CBD is in Surrenderland? This is a hell of a long vacation at this point, although if he wanted to be far away from Ace's shelves it's understandable.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2025 02:25 PM (QZThv)

33 31 I wonder...is it a first world problem if you're not in the first world?

Yes, both the transitive and commutative properties make it so.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:25 PM (Riz8t)

34 >>> 32 BTW, was it ever explained why CBD is in Surrenderland? This is a hell of a long vacation at this point, although if he wanted to be far away from Ace's shelves it's understandable.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2025 02:25 PM (QZThv)

He could tell you, but he'd have to kill you.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2025 02:26 PM (ULPxl)

35 Vodka is kind of shit once you have enough money to drink something else.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2025 02:27 PM (bss/y)

36 If you're in France then seek out a bottle of Michel Couvreur whisky.

FWIW ... France started the best brewery I've ever tasted beer from. Kronenbourg - a mass produced brew now. And still the best mass produced beer I've ever drank.

Can't get it here, in Middle America. If I could ? That would be all I drank.

Posted by: Man Without A Country at July 20, 2025 02:27 PM (s6AfD)

37 The only thing I make with vodka are Bloody Mary's.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2025 02:27 PM (Q4IgG)

38 The higher proof of vodka, the better. It's for deglazing pans, not drinking. Better yet, just buy everclear.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 20, 2025 02:27 PM (BI5O2)

39 BTW, was it ever explained why CBD is in Surrenderland?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 20, 2025 02:25 PM

Sources say he is looking to embrace his growing proclivity for 9mm.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2025 02:28 PM (0sNs1)

40 23 Apfelschnapps for the win!
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2025 02:21 PM (g8Ew

I like it.

Schnapps of any sort seem hard to get here though. And the American sugarwater variety is pretty depressing, basically just liquid candy for children who need to get weird.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2025 02:28 PM (TdYBy)

41 A while back I learned that bourbon only became popular in the United States after prohibition. Prior to that, the predominant American whiskey was rye. So I decided to switch to drinking straight rye as a way to feel some connection to the historical roots of the American west. So far, Michter's Barrel Strength rye is the best I've had, but it's limited and difficult to obtain. Wilderness Trail has been my go-to but I'd like to find something more traditional.

Posted by: Caiwyn at July 20, 2025 02:28 PM (+nIOL)

42 Used to get bottles of Remy Martin for around $5 and the class 6 store when I was stationed in Germany. Very nice cognac.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2025 02:28 PM (g8Ew8)

43 When I was young I got violently ill on vodka and orange juice. Can't drink that now.

Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 20, 2025 02:29 PM (kTd/k)

44 Golf course where I play in a league has vodka lemonade.
The doubles are perfect
Got me started making lemonade again
Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:21 PM (cPGH3)

Same with my Son-in-Law and Texas Ranch Water. Not particularly tasty until the third one.
Let's do 18 one day.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:29 PM (W/lyH)

45 T'were I in France, I'd be exploring armagnacs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 20, 2025 02:31 PM (0sNs1)

46 Weller is good whiskey. Not the best, but very drinkable.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:31 PM (W/lyH)

47 I have some wonderful Georgian chacha, made by a former Georgian vintner who lives outside of Jerusalem. It's 145 proof, smooth as can be, with a very elegant grape and earthy flavor.

Vodka? What ever for?!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2025 02:23 PM (VFv8R)

In spite of my claims for loving HRD brands, I have a deep love of Pisco. It is just unaged brandy.
However, I will drink white, unaged rum as my second choice.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2025 02:32 PM (D7oie)

48 CBD should look for a Maraska Cherry Liqour bottled in what should be the Croatia region. It is outstanding.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2025 02:32 PM (bss/y)

49 Something seems to be happening with bourbon in the US. Allocated stuff from Buffalo Trace is showing up regularly in my area. I bought a basic Weller off the shelf for MSRP this week. Haven't seen it stocked her for many years. Same with Eagle Rare, which can suddenly be found everywhere here for MSRP. Still no Stagg, but EH Taylor small batch is available now, too.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 20, 2025 02:32 PM (4DY5T)

50 A while back I learned that bourbon only became popular in the United States after prohibition. Prior to that, the predominant American whiskey was rye. So I decided to switch to drinking straight rye as a way to feel some connection to the historical roots of the American west. So far, Michter's Barrel Strength rye is the best I've had, but it's limited and difficult to obtain. Wilderness Trail has been my go-to but I'd like to find something more traditional.

If you have the green, I really like Whistlepig 10. If you want it a bit cheaper, try Woodford Reserve Straight Rye, Wild Turkey Rare Breed Barrel Proof Rye, or Russell's Reserve Single Barrel Rye.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:33 PM (Riz8t)

51 A while back I learned that bourbon only became popular in the United States after prohibition. Prior to that, the predominant American whiskey was rye.

As a fellow that lives, literally, not too far from the Bourbon Trail ? Its all what you like. Do you like a bunch of corn ? Some wheat ? Some rye, as you say ? It's all about picking some heavy starch grains or grass, and letting it ferment.

Some say the water maters. Our water is very "hard" - lots of limestone. But you can do that in any batch process.

Posted by: Man Without A Country at July 20, 2025 02:33 PM (s6AfD)

52 Y'all want to drink some whiskey? - Chuck Yeager in The Right Stuff

Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 20, 2025 02:33 PM (egMwa)

53 Breaking news: Sidney Sweeney has adopted a new German Shepherd puppy, named "Sully Bear".

Posted by: AoSHQ Celebrity News Bureau and Rumour Centre at July 20, 2025 02:33 PM (0sNs1)

54 Something seems to be happening with bourbon in the US. Allocated stuff from Buffalo Trace is showing up regularly in my area. I bought a basic Weller off the shelf for MSRP this week. Haven't seen it stocked her for many years. Same with Eagle Rare, which can suddenly be found everywhere here for MSRP. Still no Stagg, but EH Taylor small batch is available now, too.

Supply is catching up with demand, and bourbon is no longer the trendy darling it once was.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:34 PM (Riz8t)

55 Same with my Son-in-Law and Texas Ranch Water. Not particularly tasty until the third one.
Let's do 18 one day.
Posted by: Diogenes

I'm so bad that I had to start lessons and rebuild my swing from the ground up. Still trying to pull it to the left field fence.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:34 PM (cPGH3)

56 In general, I do prefer Rye.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2025 02:35 PM (bss/y)

57 Before prohibition, beer was the beverage of Hessians and Poles. Americans drank hard cider.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:35 PM (Y1Bj4)

58 FWIW ... France started the best brewery I've ever tasted beer from. Kronenbourg - a mass produced brew now. And still the best mass produced beer I've ever drank.

Can't get it here, in Middle America. If I could ? That would be all I drank.
Posted by: Man Without A Country at July 20, 2025 02:27 PM (s6AfD)

The best beer I had in Germany was Bischofbrau Pilsner. Would travel about 100 miles once a month to pick up a few cases of it.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at July 20, 2025 02:35 PM (g8Ew8)

59 Do not like whiskey unless it's in a whiskey sour Do not like Bourbon.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 02:35 PM (2GCMq)

60 Something seems to be happening with bourbon in the US. Allocated stuff from Buffalo Trace is showing up regularly in my area. I bought a basic Weller off the shelf for MSRP this week. Haven't seen it stocked her for many years. Same with Eagle Rare, which can suddenly be found everywhere here for MSRP. Still no Stagg, but EH Taylor small batch is available now, too.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 20, 2025 02:32 PM (4DY5T)

The local store selling spirits and wine has usually had a great selection of bourbons, with the exception of Blantons which nobody has. I try to use the Class VI at Ft Lewis (to avoid the gawd-awful taxes) but the selection there, while OK, isn't the same.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:37 PM (W/lyH)

61 Got yer ancestral traditions right here, pal.

Posted by: D. G. Yuengling & Son at July 20, 2025 02:38 PM (XQo4F)

62 Americans drank hard cider.

And that makes sense, because "American Wine" still gets made here around me all the time. That's a fruit wine. Apple. Watermelon. Peach if you're more south. Cherry.

It makes sense. I remember my grand-dad making wine in the 16 oz NRs and hiding them. I don't know why he hid them in the crawl space. He knew everyone in our area.

Posted by: Man Without A Country at July 20, 2025 02:38 PM (s6AfD)

63
The largest producer of "Vodka" in the World is McCormick distillery near Weston Missouri. The majority of their production is packaged in 500 gallon portable stainless steel tanks and shipped to Russia by the train load.
My guess is, there is no such thing as "Russian" or French vodka.

Posted by: Frank Bass at July 20, 2025 02:38 PM (Tkn22)

64 Supply is catching up with demand, and bourbon is no longer the trendy darling it once was.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:34 PM (Riz8t)

One can hope. It's been years of drunken cretins who would be perfectly content drinking Mello Corn chasing everything else down to extinction because some baked arsehole with a podcast recommended 'em.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2025 02:38 PM (TdYBy)

65 However, I will drink white, unaged rum as my second choice.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2025 02:32 PM (D7oie)
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I'm on good terms with a local Israeli distiller. A few years ago he let me sample a rum from the barrel. Wonderful stuff but nowhere near as complex in flavor as the chacha.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2025 02:39 PM (VFv8R)

66 > Something seems to be happening with bourbon in the US
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Some claim the tariffs have reduced the demand for it overseas were no deal with the administration has been finalized. For a period of time, Canada quit importing it as a protest. I doubt it lasted long.

But this might have something to do with the stocks of Bourbon here.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2025 02:40 PM (Q4IgG)

67 IIRC, in college in mid 90s, a handle (2/5 gal plastic jug) of McCormicks was like $9.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2025 02:40 PM (bss/y)

68 The best beer I had in Germany was Bischofbrau Pilsner. Would travel about 100 miles once a month to pick up a few cases of it.

I had a hotel beer, at the Marriott next to the airport at Munich, on 10/9.

Delicious. Might not have been entirely the beer. But I had several.

Posted by: Man Without A Country at July 20, 2025 02:40 PM (s6AfD)

69 The largest producer of "Vodka" in the World is McCormick distillery near Weston Missouri. The majority of their production is packaged in 500 gallon portable stainless steel tanks and shipped to Russia by the train load.
My guess is, there is no such thing as "Russian" or French vodka.
Posted by: Frank Bass

And those bastards had the first sour mash distillery west of the Mississippi... and started cranking out neutral spirits.
Their "bourbon" is colored vodka.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:40 PM (cPGH3)

70 FWIW ... France started the best brewery I've ever tasted beer from. Kronenbourg - a mass produced brew now. And still the best mass produced beer I've ever drank.

Can't get it here, in Middle America. If I could ? That would be all I drank.
Posted by: Man Without A Country at July 20, 2025 02:27 PM (s6AfD)

Kronenberg is good bier. But the best I had in Germany was from Augsburg, called Hasenbrau. I only drank the helles lager. I miss it. Best I can find here in Washington State is Paulaner and occasionally Haufbrau.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:41 PM (W/lyH)

71 One can hope. It's been years of drunken cretins who would be perfectly content drinking Mello Corn chasing everything else down to extinction because some baked arsehole with a podcast recommended 'em.

I was unaware Stephen Colbert was already doing a podcast. That was quick.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:41 PM (Riz8t)

72 Just be careful of the Chinese knockoff "Pissle Wig."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 20, 2025 02:41 PM (mlg/3)

73 One can hope. It's been years of drunken cretins who would be perfectly content drinking Mello Corn chasing everything else down to extinction because some baked arsehole with a podcast recommended 'em.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

"I went bourbon hunting in Asslick, Indiana. You'll never believe what I found!"

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 20, 2025 02:41 PM (4DY5T)

74 If I aged vodka in a charred barrel would it taste like whiskey?

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:42 PM (Y1Bj4)

75 I think this is interesting:

India has regained its position from France as the world’s number one Scotch Whisky export market by volume, with 192m bottles exported, while the United States retains its long-held position as the largest export market by value, worth £971m in 2024.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:43 PM (Riz8t)

76 If I aged vodka in a charred barrel would it taste like whiskey?
Posted by: toby928

It might be redolent of whiskey.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:43 PM (cPGH3)

77 If I filtered vodka through some sod would it taste like Scotch?

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:44 PM (Y1Bj4)

78 If I aged vodka in a charred barrel would it taste like whiskey?

No, because malted barley (Scotch), corn (bourbon) and rye (Rye) all impart a specific flavor to the liquor.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:44 PM (Riz8t)

79 I'm so bad that I had to start lessons and rebuild my swing from the ground up. Still trying to pull it to the left field fence.
Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:34 PM (cPGH3)

Twisted my knee back in April and I'm only now getting back to normal. The handicap has suffered mightily.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:45 PM (W/lyH)

80 I tried (S)Knob Creek because I liked the look of the bottle, its price, and the proof level (JD has dropped theirs). I've enjoyed a couple others recommended by Horde members. I haven't tried rye, but have been curious. Hard cider was another historically big product that, iirc, got nuked during Prohibition and between that and the Great Depression, we lost a shitload of the apples used for alcohol.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2025 02:45 PM (ULPxl)

81 If I aged vodka in a charred barrel would it taste like whiskey?
Posted by: toby928

It might be redolent of whiskey.

If I sat next to Eric Swallwell, would the air be redolent of Chipotle?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:45 PM (Riz8t)

82
The lament of those pleased with the product of the culturally uncouth.

It happened in 1976, the "Judgment of Paris," when California wines swept the prizes is blind taste tests.

Another case i know of was chefs and foodies blind taste-testing vanilla extract brands, which can get expensive and snooty. The winner was artificial flavoring.

Posted by: Blonde Morticis's Phone at July 20, 2025 02:46 PM (lCaJd)

83 If I filtered vodka through some sod would it taste like Scotch?
Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:44 PM (Y1Bj4)

First find out where the dogs crap.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:46 PM (W/lyH)

84 Twisted my knee back in April and I'm only now getting back to normal. The handicap has suffered mightily.
Posted by: Diogenes

Most embarrassing thing I've ever seen was my swing pre-lessons. (I've had lessons before, but it was years ago).
I have no idea how I got into those habits.
Hell, I had no idea when I golfed I became a hunchback!
Here's Quasimodo on the tee...

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:47 PM (cPGH3)

85 I am not a fan of Scotch but enjoy Irish whiskey a bit. Yet, aren't they basically the same thing?

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:48 PM (Y1Bj4)

86 Costco's vodka is oly 80 proof! Doh, Ill be searching a better brand!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 20, 2025 02:48 PM (pGb63)

87 Is there anything GB is the #1 exporter of? I would have thought Scotch.
India? France?
Jeebus

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:50 PM (cPGH3)

88 I am not a fan of Scotch but enjoy Irish whiskey a bit. Yet, aren't they basically the same thing?

Irish whiskey and Scotch whisky, while both distilled from grains, have distinct characteristics due to differences in production methods and flavor profiles. Irish whiskey is known for its smooth, mellow taste, often achieved through triple distillation and a blend of cereal grains. Scotch whisky, on the other hand, tends to have a more robust, smoky flavor, often attributed to the use of peat-smoked barley and double distillation

I find Irish whiskey to be kind of bland.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:50 PM (Riz8t)

89 I prepared for the Obama-lypse by getting a couple of cases of Idaho Silver vodka and Potters Crown Canadian whiskey, figuring they would make good trading stock in the Burning Times. They have sat untouched in the corner of the storeroom, next to the ammo cans.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 20, 2025 02:50 PM (bawFb)

90 Is there anything GB is the #1 exporter of? I would have thought Scotch.
India? France?
Jeebus

You got it. Booze.

In 2023, the United Kingdom was the biggest exporter of liquor, with exports valued at $10.3 billion, according to The Observatory of Economic Complexity. France and Mexico followed as the second and third largest exporters, with $6.42 billion and $5.85 billion respectively. The United States is also a major player, being both a leading exporter and importer of liquor

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:51 PM (Riz8t)

91 Testing what hash my hotspot gives me

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:52 PM (JmMxR)

92 The Renault Redolent was intended to take on solid subcompacts like the Toyota Corolla or the Hyundai Elantra. However, underpowered by a feeble three cylinder engine, a tiny back seat, and with distinctly effeminate styling it was cancelled halfway through the first year of production.
Thank goodness.

Posted by: Car Nerd at July 20, 2025 02:52 PM (XQo4F)

93 Apropos of nothing, Gin was the crack cocaine of Victorian England.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:52 PM (Y1Bj4)

94 Entirely too much alcohol love and promotion on the Saturday Collaborative ONT, now on the FWP Thread. There's a Death Spiral going on here. Soon all y'all will smell like cheap vodka, not only from your breath, but through your skin. Jaundice soon follows. DUI, Divorce, unexplained bruises and blackouts-it's all coming. Heed the warning! Turn from this!

Posted by: Lurid Tales From Skid Row at July 20, 2025 02:53 PM (G5+As)

95 Irish whisky i s triple distilled for a smoother taste,, scotch is double distilled. Irish uses unmalted barley, scotch is malted. Scotch flavor profiles are derived from the different peats used in the smoking process. These have a huge affect on the taste, depending on where the peat is grown.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:54 PM (W/lyH)

96 >>> 94 Entirely too much alcohol love and promotion on the Saturday Collaborative ONT, now on the FWP Thread. There's a Death Spiral going on here. Soon all y'all will smell like cheap vodka, not only from your breath, but through your skin. Jaundice soon follows. DUI, Divorce, unexplained bruises and blackouts-it's all coming. Heed the warning! Turn from this!
Posted by: Lurid Tales From Skid Row at July 20, 2025 02:53 PM (G5+As)

No mention of Valurite?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 20, 2025 02:54 PM (ULPxl)

97 94 Entirely too much alcohol love and promotion on the Saturday Collaborative ONT, now on the FWP Thread. There's a Death Spiral going on here. Soon all y'all will smell like cheap vodka, not only from your breath, but through your skin. Jaundice soon follows. DUI, Divorce, unexplained bruises and blackouts-it's all coming. Heed the warning! Turn from this!

We probably don't need to worry until the conversation turns to MD2020 and Everclear.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:55 PM (Riz8t)

98 Entirely too much alcohol love and promotion on the Saturday Collaborative ONT, now on the FWP Thread. There's a Death Spiral going on here. Soon all y'all will smell like cheap vodka, not only from your breath, but through your skin. Jaundice soon follows. DUI, Divorce, unexplained bruises and blackouts-it's all coming. Heed the warning! Turn from this!
Posted by: Lurid Tales From Skid Row at July 20, 2025 02:53 PM

All is proceeding as we have foreseen.

Posted by: Big Penguin at July 20, 2025 02:55 PM (0sNs1)

99 85 I am not a fan of Scotch but enjoy Irish whiskey a bit. Yet, aren't they basically the same thing?
Posted by: toby928

It all tastes like iodine!

Posted by: Archie Bunker at July 20, 2025 02:55 PM (G5+As)

100 I can quit.
I can quit anytime I want.
I quit three times last week!

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at July 20, 2025 02:55 PM (XQo4F)

101 Tennessee straight off the still moonshine is 135 proof.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2025 02:56 PM (XeU6L)

102 I drink for effect anyway.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 02:56 PM (Y1Bj4)

103 I drink Scotch and detest Irish Whiskey

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2025 02:56 PM (rwUkw)

104 Entirely too much alcohol love and promotion on the Saturday Collaborative ONT, now on the FWP Thread. There's a Death Spiral going on here. Soon all y'all will smell like cheap vodka, not only from your breath, but through your skin. Jaundice soon follows. DUI, Divorce, unexplained bruises and blackouts-it's all coming. Heed the warning! Turn from this!
Posted by: Lurid Tales From Skid Row at July 20, 2025 02:53 PM (G5+As)

Another FWP. Posters here are starting to sound a lot like Mrs D.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:57 PM (W/lyH)

105 *hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 20, 2025 02:57 PM (PiwSw)

106
We probably don't need to worry until the conversation turns to MD2020 and Everclear.
Posted by: Archimedes
--------

Here: https://www.bumwine.com/

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2025 02:57 PM (XeU6L)

107 Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 02:55 PM (Riz8t

What is Everclear? It sounds like some face rinse for teen acne sufferers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 02:57 PM (2GCMq)

108 France, does it permit Russian or Polish vodka?
Most vodka at my liquor store has pretty labels and is made from one grain or other. There is one brand of Polish vodka made from potatoes.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2025 02:58 PM (wHp1L)

109 What is Everclear? It sounds like some face rinse for teen acne sufferers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 02:57 PM (2GCMq)

It is essentially pure (like 190 proof, 95%) ethanol, Fen.

It is 'meant' to be mixed with other things.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2025 02:59 PM (bss/y)

110 Tennessee straight off the still moonshine is 135 proof.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Last St. Patty's day we were having a family dinner, so I bought two bottles Of authentic Glendacoug Poitin.
Gave the first one away, and still have 2/3 of the second.
I tried to like it, I really did.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:59 PM (cPGH3)

111 What is Everclear? It sounds like some face rinse for teen acne sufferers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 02:57 PM (2GCMq)

Sounds like someone has never been to a frat party at I Felta Thigh.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:59 PM (W/lyH)

112 Sounds like someone has never been to a frat party at I Felta Thigh.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:59 PM

What are we, chopped liver?

Posted by: Tappa Kegga Bru at July 20, 2025 03:01 PM (0sNs1)

113 I Felta Thigh.

Learn something new ever day

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:02 PM (cPGH3)

114 I'm on good terms with a local Israeli distiller. A few years ago he let me sample a rum from the barrel. Wonderful stuff but nowhere near as complex in flavor as the chacha.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2025 02:39 PM (VFv8R)

Chacha sounds like Grappa.

We grow a lot of grapes here, and there are some craft distilleries popping up. I don't think there are any grappa distillers, but they do make brandy. Some of which has a flavor I am not fond of. There may be a learning curve.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2025 03:02 PM (D7oie)

115 If I sat next to Eric Swallwell, would the air be redolent of Chipotle?
Posted by: Archimedes

Pot stickers?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 20, 2025 03:02 PM (pGb63)

116 Everclear, Gemclear, same stuff.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:03 PM (Y1Bj4)

117 What is Everclear? It sounds like some face rinse for teen acne sufferers.

It would probably work for that. Strip off all the oils and kill a lot of bacteria.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 20, 2025 03:03 PM (/y8xj)

118 Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 20, 2025 02:59 PM

Thanks. I didn't really think people were drinking an acne face rinse 😉 but alcoholics have been known to drink some strange things with alcohol content if no booze is available. No, despite other personal failings I am not an alcoholic but I have known some. One drank vanilla extract.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 03:03 PM (2GCMq)

119 Wodka makes you womit!

Posted by: muldoon at July 20, 2025 03:04 PM (poXs5)

120 The active ingredient in Hunch Punch.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:04 PM (Y1Bj4)

121 Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 02:59 PM (W/lyH

You are correct. I have never been to a frat party. Sounds like I haven't missed much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 03:04 PM (2GCMq)

122 113 I Felta Thigh.

Learn something new ever day
Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:02 PM (cPGH3)

I was ravished by Brett Kavanaugh at a party there.

Posted by: Christine Blasey Ford, Ph.D at July 20, 2025 03:05 PM (PiwSw)

123 The active ingredient in Hunch Punch.
Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:04 PM (Y1Bj4)

Purple People Eaters have entered the chat.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:05 PM (W/lyH)

124 I'm an Aqua Velva Man, myself.

Posted by: Rum Dum With DTs. at July 20, 2025 03:05 PM (G5+As)

125 Vodka is what I drink when I've run out of everything else.

Posted by: javems at July 20, 2025 03:05 PM (8I4hW)

126 Caught a full show at the bar last night, three sets, 9-1:00am, hung a bit afterwards.
Half a dozen beers, maybe another, and joints being shared in the parking lot between sets.
Had been a while. Today's telling me why. Getting a bit old. Me. The time was swell.

Posted by: From about That Time at July 20, 2025 03:05 PM (n4GiU)

127 There may be a learning curve.
Posted by: Kindltot

I don't need to learn any more likkers.
Scotch... don't drink it often. Takes me 1/2 bottle to get used to it again.
Just not worth it.
Plus, I'm making mead constantly now, trying to refine my product.
Made a sparkling one a while ago. the bottles that didn't explode were phenomenal.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:05 PM (cPGH3)

128 Sounds like I haven't missed much.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 03:04 PM

and there you would be wrong. Now if you meant much that you couldn't, or didn't want to remember, that might be true.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:06 PM (Y1Bj4)

129 Posted by: javems at July 20, 2025 03:05 PM (8I4hW)

Lol

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 03:06 PM (2GCMq)

130 My niece, when she was in college at Texas Tech, worked for one of the better Lubbock vintners. She related stories of how their wines would win competitions if it were a blind tasting, with the labels concealed. If it were an open competition with the labels shown they never won.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:06 PM (GjvxI)

131 >>You are correct. I have never been to a frat party. Sounds like I haven't missed much.

I wouldn't go that far.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2025 03:06 PM (viF8m)

132 I bought a bottle of some generic 190 proof about 10 years ago when my wife wanted to try using it to extract natural dyes. Most of the rest was used for stuff like cleaning camera lenses. There's still a couple ounces on the shelf above the kitchen sink.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 20, 2025 03:07 PM (/y8xj)

133 Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:06 PM (Y1Bj4

Maybe frat parties are more appealing for some men?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 03:07 PM (2GCMq)

134 My first world problem is their use of a comma for a decimal point. Ugh.

Posted by: Ben Lange at July 20, 2025 03:08 PM (tIsOO)

135 After the Covid panic, a friend gave me a big bottle of Everclear. He had bought a couple so he could make his own hand sanitizer.
I find that Everclear, combined with a pipe cleaner, does a wonderful job cleaning my tobacco pipe stems.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 20, 2025 03:09 PM (bawFb)

136 Trivia,
#1 and #2 wine making states pre-prohibition.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:09 PM (cPGH3)

137 I don't think that it's actually possible to drink 190+ proof alcohol. It literally absorbs right through your mouth and throat membranes. I doubt if any significant amount makes it to your stomach.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:09 PM (Y1Bj4)

138 Wild Irish Rose has been around longer that the others put together. High school Buddy and I would go to meeting but stop off at the Chinese grocery, go back to the meat counter and buy a wrapped pound of ground round. Park outside the hall and sing versions of
youtu.be/4qwUyvZWpUk?t=3

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2025 03:10 PM (wHp1L)

139 Weller used to be the cheap stuff at $15 dollars a bottle not in the too distant past and the 12 year wasn't that much more, maybe 20s. It was my favorite bourbon until the Pappy Van Winkle thing took off and everyone found out it was the same grain bill. Now I can't find it in my state.

Posted by: EGGO at July 20, 2025 03:10 PM (MU/aP)

140 I find that Everclear, combined with a pipe cleaner, does a wonderful job cleaning my tobacco pipe stems.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy

Huh! I wonder how it'd do on firearms?
Probably strip the bluing

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:10 PM (cPGH3)

141 I find that Everclear, combined with a pipe cleaner, does a wonderful job cleaning my tobacco pipe stems.
Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 20, 2025 03:09 PM (bawFb)

It is also a superior fuel for spirit stoves.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2025 03:11 PM (D7oie)

142 Huh! I wonder how it'd do on firearms?
Probably strip the bluing
Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:10 PM

I don't think alcohol is a rust remover.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:11 PM (Y1Bj4)

143
I don't think alcohol is a rust remover.
Posted by: toby928

5% water no matter what, so, it'll help rust...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 20, 2025 03:12 PM (pGb63)

144 Not rust. Fouling. Residue. Usual cleaning targets.
Maybe black powder?
I actually think it might strip the bluing.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:13 PM (cPGH3)

145 Scotch flavor profiles are derived from the different peats used in the smoking process. These have a huge affect on the taste, depending on where the peat is grown.
Posted by: Diogenes

**********

Peat and repeat were in a distillery. Peat fell over dead drunk, who was left?

Posted by: muldoon at July 20, 2025 03:13 PM (poXs5)

146 Bluing is rust.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:13 PM (Y1Bj4)

147 You made me curious about Weller 12 year availability. So, I looked it up. They make it in such limited batches that retailers either need a connection to acquire it, or they win a lottery that the distillery holds every year.

That's why you never see it.

Posted by: Orson at July 20, 2025 03:13 PM (dIske)

148 Sounds like I haven't missed much.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 03:04 PM

Ours were pretty mild and we never took advantage of our dates.
Halloween was a blast. And we'd also do a casino night where the pledges had to stay sober and be the dealers. It was fun.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:15 PM (W/lyH)

149 No ma'am, he climbed out of the vat three times to go to the bathroom.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at July 20, 2025 03:15 PM (Y1Bj4)

150 People dispute the differences between Everclear and moonshine, but basically, Everclear is made by people who gave in and paid the revenuers to produce moonshine legally.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:16 PM (GjvxI)

151 I don't think that it's actually possible to drink 190+ proof alcohol. It literally absorbs right through your mouth and throat membranes. I doubt if any significant amount makes it to your stomach.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:09 PM (Y1Bj4)
-

I'm pretty sure it reaches my tummy when I drink it.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 20, 2025 03:17 PM (VFv8R)

152 Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:15 PM (W/lyH)

I'm sure there were very nice men at your frat parties. They just get a bad reputation from the movie "Animal House".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 20, 2025 03:17 PM (2GCMq)

153 @32/Ian S.: "BTW, was it ever explained why CBD is in Surrenderland?"

It got him further away from the maple syrup supply chain.

Posted by: General Ripper at July 20, 2025 03:18 PM (O7YUW)

154 Peat and repeat were in a distillery. Peat fell over dead drunk, who was left?
Posted by: muldoon at July 20, 2025 03:13 PM (poXs5)

Repea....ooohhh...
The other guy!
Ha!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:18 PM (W/lyH)

155 Off Ripper sock

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 20, 2025 03:18 PM (O7YUW)

156 College parties are not entirely about drunken women.

There are also the Feats of Strength.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:18 PM (Y1Bj4)

157 If you don't like the taste of cheap hooch, you can put it in the other end.

Posted by: Rum Dum With DTs. at July 20, 2025 03:19 PM (G5+As)

158 There are also the Feats of Strength.
Posted by: toby928

Fire jumping.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:19 PM (cPGH3)

159 Wodka makes you womit!

Posted by: muldoon at July 20, 2025 03:04 PM

I have it on good authority that Wild Turkey puke peels the paint off the inside of an Army trash can.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 20, 2025 03:19 PM (e5NfL)

160 > Scotch flavor profiles are derived from the different peats used in the smoking process. These have a huge affect on the taste, depending on where the peat is grown.
Posted by: Diogenes
----------
The smoky, peat nose is actually something I like about Scotch. This coming from a diehard Bourbon drinker.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2025 03:20 PM (Q4IgG)

161 146 Bluing is rust.

They're both oxides of iron, but not the same.

Bluing is a metal finishing process that involves creating a protective, blue-black layer on steel, primarily for rust and corrosion resistance, and also for aesthetic appeal. It's a type of passivation, where a chemical reaction with the iron on the steel's surface forms a thin layer of magnetite (black iron oxide), which helps prevent the formation of rust (red iron oxide). While often associated with firearms, bluing is also used in other applications where a durable, dark finish is desired

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 03:21 PM (Riz8t)

162 Don’t hand me a bottle of French vodka and expect me to thank you.

I’m not hosting a bachelorette party.
This is not St. Tropez.
This is Manhattan. And I drink to feel something.

French vodka, Grey Goose, Cîroc, anything with an accent or a pear flavor, is not alcohol.

It’s perfume for the tongue.
It’s what people drink when they want to seem sophisticated but are terrified of flavor, consequence, and confrontation.

Vodka is for people who fear complexity.
It’s a blank slate in a frosted bottle.
No finish. No courage. No story.

Every sip of French vodka whispers, “I hope you like me.”

Meanwhile, American whiskey doesn’t ask for approval.
It walks into the room, lights a cigarette, and starts rearranging your priorities.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2025 03:24 PM (XV/Pl)

163 Well, toby was close enough for government work.
Maybe we'll get weasel-san to give us the low down on Everclear and firearms.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:24 PM (cPGH3)

164 The smoky, peat nose is actually something I like about Scotch. This coming from a diehard Bourbon drinker.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2025 03:20 PM (Q4IgG)

The aroma is wonderful, but some (most) of the Lowland and Islay brands have a harsh, salty almost brackish taste. This is due to the proximity of the peat to the sea. I much prefer the Highlands which have a cleaner taste...at least to me.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:25 PM (W/lyH)

165 156 College parties are not entirely about drunken women.

There are also the Feats of Strength.
Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:18 PM (Y1Bj4)
We were too serious to have parties. We planned field trips. Of course young people were more serious back then.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2025 03:25 PM (LHPAg)

166 You think you’re worldly because your vodka has been distilled five times?
You know what else is distilled five times?

Mistakes.

But pour me two fingers of Booker’s, barrel-strength, 127.8 proof.

Suddenly the air gets heavier. The lighting changes.
The conversation sharpens like a straight razor against glass.
That’s not a drink.
That’s a ritual.

Bourbon has character. Grit. A memory of fire.
It was made by men who built things with their hands and didn’t cry about gluten.
It tastes like oak, char, sweat, tobacco, and mild aggression.
It is fermented clarity.

And what does French vodka taste like?

Emotionally neglected limestone.

It's bottled for influencers, not men.

It’s poured at clubs with LED menus and celebrity DJs whose fathers bought them a MacBook.
It’s for people who order bottle service so they can feel something, anything, without confronting the spiritual hollowness of their kale-based personality.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2025 03:25 PM (XV/Pl)

167 American whiskey is earned.
It’s not chilled. It’s not mixed.
It doesn’t come in flavors.
It comes in consequences.

You don’t drink it to get drunk.
You drink it to test your constitution.

French vodka tries to erase you.
Bourbon etches you deeper into your own skull.

So the next time you think about bringing a frosted bottle with “Parisian notes” and a silk ribbon to my penthouse?

Leave it at the door.
And bring something that knows what it means to burn.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to sip 110-proof redemption and stare into the skyline until I remember who I am.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2025 03:26 PM (XV/Pl)

168 So... will anyone be charged with treason?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2025 03:26 PM (XQo4F)

169 I have it on good authority that Wild Turkey puke peels the paint off the inside of an Army trash can.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 20, 2025 03:19 PM (e5NfL)

During Prohibition Grandpa sold Fords in Washington state. He said he borrowed one of the new Fords from his boss to take a date to a party, and one of the other guests puked his bellyfull of bootleg liquor on the fender, and the rotgut peeled the paint off it. He had to pay to get it repainted.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2025 03:27 PM (D7oie)

170 Vodka is for people who fear complexity.
It’s a blank slate in a frosted bottle.
No finish. No courage. No story.
---

No tannin or other adulteration to foul the body.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2025 03:27 PM (wHp1L)

171 T. Bender
Letters to the Editors:
Le Monde

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:27 PM (cPGH3)

172 So... will anyone be charged with treason?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at July 20, 2025 03:26 PM (XQo4F)

Dunno. Just to think a week ago everyone was mad about Epstein.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 20, 2025 03:28 PM (D7oie)

173 156 College parties are not entirely about drunken women.

There are also the Feats of Strength.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:18 PM (Y1Bj4)

My feats were incredibly strong back in the day. Never got recognition for it.

Posted by: javems at July 20, 2025 03:29 PM (8I4hW)

174 T Bender, I'm stealing some.of that in what will be an act of pure plagiarism.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:29 PM (W/lyH)

175 So... will anyone be charged with treason?
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

Maybe. I would have preferred the 4a.m. door pounding wakeup with camera crews in tow, instead of announcements.

Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 03:30 PM (cPGH3)

176 All through grad school in the 1980s, I lived close enough to some frat houses that you could hear their drunken parties every weekend. You would always hear some young lady cry out “I am so drunk!”. One of my fellow grad students called it the mating call of the sorority sister. I had learned better than that at my undergrad school.

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:30 PM (GjvxI)

177 I can't wait for Bender's book to hit the shelves.

Posted by: Eromero at July 20, 2025 03:31 PM (LHPAg)

178 College parties are not entirely about drunken women.

Ahhh...so the Delta Delta Deltas had a sorority at you school too!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:31 PM (W/lyH)

179 They're both oxides of iron, but not the same.

Bluing is a metal finishing process that involves creating a protective, blue-black layer on steel, primarily for rust and corrosion resistance, and also for aesthetic appeal. Blah blah.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 03:21 PM

Rust remover will strip bluing down to gray metal because Rust Bluing is essentially regular rust except that you boil it in water to covert Fe2O3 to Fe3O4.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:31 PM (Y1Bj4)

180 Thomas Bender you should have a career writing bottle labels. Bravo

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 20, 2025 03:31 PM (JvZF+)

181 >>Maybe. I would have preferred the 4a.m. door pounding wakeup with camera crews in tow, instead of announcements.

Tulsi is promising more declassified documents this week and claims that intel whistleblowers are "coming out of the woodwork" because they are so disgusted at what was done.

First things first. I want to exactly what happened. I have a pretty good idea but I want to see all of the documents.

Bartiromo asked Tulsi today if the raid on Mar A Lago was done to retrieve documents related to the Russia hoax. That has long been my suspicion. The raid happened in 2022.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 20, 2025 03:36 PM (viF8m)

182 But pour me two fingers of Booker’s, barrel-strength, 127.8 proof.

Suddenly the air gets heavier. The lighting changes.
The conversation sharpens like a straight razor against glass.
That’s not a drink.
That’s a ritual.

Bourbon has character. Grit. A memory of fire.
It was made by men who built things with their hands and didn’t cry about gluten.
It tastes like oak, char, sweat, tobacco, and mild aggression.
It is fermented clarity.

American whiskey is earned.
It’s not chilled. It’s not mixed.
It doesn’t come in flavors.
It comes in consequences.

You don’t drink it to get drunk.
You drink it to test your constitution.

That'll be enough out of you, Ernest Hemingway.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 03:36 PM (Riz8t)

183 Rust Bluing is essentially regular rust except that you boil it in water to covert Fe2O3 to Fe3O4.

That's like saying diamond is essentially graphite.

Rust is typically Fe2O3 (iron(III) oxide), often with water molecules attached (hydrated iron(III) oxide) making it Fe2O3·nH2O. It is not Fe3O4 (magnetite), which is a different iron oxide. While rust can contain other iron oxides and hydroxides, Fe2O3 is the most common component

Posted by: Archimedes at July 20, 2025 03:38 PM (Riz8t)

184 Fun fact: The same distillery that produces the delicious Weller, also makes Wheatley vodka.

(Buffalo Trace distillery)

Posted by: ghbucky at July 20, 2025 03:38 PM (/xDbx)

185 Can we just move on to Parkerizing?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2025 03:38 PM (XeU6L)

186 Interestingly enough, stripping bluing with a chelating compound like Evaporust seems to leave the fine rough surface that retains oil even though the steel will be gray.

I have a Model10 that was so rusted that a friend just gave it to me. I soaked it in Evaporust and got it completely functional again, even though now it looks more like stainless.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:39 PM (Y1Bj4)

187 49 Something seems to be happening with bourbon in the US. Allocated stuff from Buffalo Trace is showing up regularly in my area. I bought a basic Weller off the shelf for MSRP this week. Haven't seen it stocked her for many years. Same with Eagle Rare, which can suddenly be found everywhere here for MSRP. Still no Stagg, but EH Taylor small batch is available now, too.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at July 20, 2025 02:32 PM (4DY5T)

Buffalo trace sold to InBev, who invested $billions into their operation several years ago. The results of that cash infusion are now being seen on the store shelves.

Posted by: ghbucky at July 20, 2025 03:40 PM (/xDbx)

188 @182

>>That'll be enough out of you, Ernest Hemingway.

It helps if you read it in the voice of Dennis Leary.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2025 03:41 PM (XV/Pl)

189 In SC there is Fighting Cock bourbon 103 proof, and $17 a bottle. Smooth but not treacle-y. Boozy but not burny. Complex enough to sip.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at July 20, 2025 03:41 PM (wBaIH)

190 That's like saying diamond is essentially graphite.

All I can tells you is that I have rust blued more than one firearm using noting but rust, wirebrush, and distilled boiling water. Now I'm not going to claim it is as good as Colt bluing but it is dark and even and holds oil.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:41 PM (Y1Bj4)

191 Who cried when Old Weller Died? Was our rallying cry in College.

Posted by: DBCooper at July 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ApPwn)

192 So if you spilt a truck load of red rust on a highway would it a chemical hazard in that it might burn to form a more completely oxidized form?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:42 PM (GjvxI)

193 Errata -
would it a -> would it be a

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:43 PM (GjvxI)

194 So if you spilt a truck load of red rust on a highway would it a chemical hazard in that it might burn to form a more completely oxidized form?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:42 PM

If you crashed a truckload of powdered aluminum on it you would have thermite.

Posted by: toby928 at July 20, 2025 03:43 PM (Y1Bj4)

195 Looks like Minneapolis will be the new Mogadishu on the Great Lakes with a Somali mayor .....

New York and Minneapolis are going way Commie left....

Posted by: Wally at July 20, 2025 03:44 PM (7uGna)

196 oops... not inbev.. doH!

Sazerac bought buffalo trace

Posted by: ghbucky at July 20, 2025 03:44 PM (/xDbx)

197 American whiskey is earned.
It’s not chilled. It’s not mixed.
It doesn’t come in flavors.
It comes in consequences.
[...]
Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to sip 110-proof redemption and stare into the skyline until I remember who I am.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

One of the distillers should pay you for prose like this. I can see Baritone Voiceover Guy reading this over alternating views of a swank Manhattan penthouse and Wyoming ranch life, or maybe Revolutionary War movie footage.

It helps if you read it in the voice of Dennis Leary.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

OK, then they should pay you to train their AI.

Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2025 03:45 PM (DgGvY)

198 Who cried when Old Weller Died? Was our rallying cry in College.
Posted by: DBCooper at July 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ApPwn)

We were old school...candy is dandy but liquor is quicker.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:45 PM (W/lyH)

199 Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2025 03:25 PM

*sniff*

Pure poetry, man.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 20, 2025 03:46 PM (Wnv9h)

200 It helps if you read it in the voice of Dennis Leary.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 20, 2025 03:41 PM (XV/Pl)

In my head I was hearing it in Sam Kinison's voice.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:46 PM (W/lyH)

201 Looking at Sam's Club vodkas, they are all 40%, 80 proof.
Maybe there is some rule/law on that, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 20, 2025 03:49 PM (vbXSk)

202 @166

But pour me two fingers of Booker’s, barrel-strength, 127.8 proof.

Suddenly the air gets heavier. The lighting changes.
The conversation sharpens like a straight razor against glass.
That’s not a drink.
That’s a ritual.

Posted by: Thomas Bender

********************************************

Love Booker's! Probably my favorite bourbon. Booker Noe was Jim Beam's grandson, and a Master Distiller at that distillery. They told the story of Booker's whiskey at his funeral.

Booker used to bring his friends a small jug of his private reserve at Christmas time. He preferred his whiskey to be aged 6-8 years, and bottled around 125-130 proof.

Booker's wife also used to love making him a bourbon pork roast, which she would douse liberally with Jim Beam white label. One Sunday she couldn't find any Jim Beam in the pantry, so she grabbed a jug of Booker's personal stock, doused the roast generously with it, and threw it into their cast iron stove.

The resulting explosion didn't just blow the doors off of the cast iron stove. It blew the screws out of the hinges.

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 20, 2025 03:50 PM (X+xvk)

203 Yes thermite, of course, but say it was just a truck load of red rust? I ask because this happened when I was in grad school and the highway patrol shut down the road because of a chemical hazard! I got into an argument with a fellow grad student about how hazardous red rust would be. I thought it was already oxidized, so how much more oxidation would it undergo? Of course you don’t want to go scraping it up with aluminum scoops! Mind you, we were physics students not chemistry!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:51 PM (GjvxI)

204 Pining for the days when Eagle Rare and Buffalo Trace were both plentiful and $29.00 a bottle....

Posted by: Sam Adams at July 20, 2025 03:51 PM (X+xvk)

205 Who cried when Old Weller Died? Was our rallying cry in College.
Posted by: DBCooper at July 20, 2025 03:42 PM (ApPwn)

After graduation I reported to Fort Sill for my Army Officer's Basic Course. I fell in with some evil-doers from Georgia who forced me...forced me I tell you, to drink Rebel Yell.
Damned southerners!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 20, 2025 03:52 PM (W/lyH)

206 Testing what hash my hotspot gives me
Posted by: MkY at July 20, 2025 02:52 PM (JmMxR)

Jam Mixer?

You're a rave DJ, now?

Posted by: mikeski at July 20, 2025 03:54 PM (DgGvY)

207 I'm surprised that you didn't comment on the weird Euroweenie habit of using the comma instead of the perfectly good decimal point. I guess the Euroweenies figure it's obvious from the context.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at July 20, 2025 03:55 PM (pJWtt)

208 So if you spilt a truck load of red rust on a highway would it a chemical hazard in that it might burn to form a more completely oxidized form?
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:42 PM

Those little hand warmer packets that come in a plastic pouch and start heating up once the pouch is opened and they are exposed to air? They are filled with iron oxide that is reacting with the oxygen in the air.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at July 20, 2025 03:55 PM (bawFb)

209 A lot of people are probably remembering the good old days of cheap, quality liquor, forgetting about inflation!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:56 PM (GjvxI)

210 Idaho Spudboy -
So the highway patrol was right, and I was better suited to physics than chemistry!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:58 PM (GjvxI)

211 Is this about us?

Posted by: People afraid of confronting the spiritual hollowness of their kale-based personality at July 20, 2025 03:59 PM (XQo4F)

212 "No finish. No courage. No story.
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No tannin or other adulteration to foul the body."
Posted by: Braenyard

yeah, my doctor said "if you're going to drink, the clear alcohols are healthier". I guess that makes sense.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 20, 2025 03:59 PM (vbXSk)

213 Ah but are the pouches filled with red rust, or some other oxide of iron?

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 03:59 PM (GjvxI)

214 > Sazerac bought buffalo trace
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The "House of Bourbon" shows 12 "houses" from which most Bourbons originate. Four hold the majority.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 20, 2025 04:01 PM (Q4IgG)

215 Slackers there is a FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at July 20, 2025 04:03 PM (rwUkw)

216 One of the distillers should pay you for prose like this. I can see Baritone Voiceover Guy reading this over alternating views of a swank Manhattan penthouse and Wyoming ranch life, or maybe Revolutionary War movie footage.
----

The Tecovas boot commercials come to mind.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 20, 2025 04:08 PM (XeU6L)

217 The pouches for hand warmers are filled with iron filings which rust in accelerated manner to warm you! But if the stuff is already oxidized, in the form of red rust, is it going to oxidize readily any more? Barring admixture of powdered aluminum and so forth?!

Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 20, 2025 04:09 PM (GjvxI)

218 Color me perfectly happy to have to contend with 1st world problems.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at July 20, 2025 04:17 PM (hKoQL)

219 Clay Travis @ClayTravis

Trump now says if Washington won’t change the team name back to Redskins he may not support their new stadium deal. Also reiterates call for Cleveland Indians name to return.

Trump Truth Social statement reposted on X: https://bit.ly/4eYR9K5

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 20, 2025 04:26 PM (P5BPp)

220 Well, Buffalo Trace is *looks at label*

$25.99. Total Wine. And scored Weller at Spec's...

Posted by: man at July 20, 2025 04:36 PM (tubbA)

221 Wholesome Side of X @itsme_urstruly

People enjoying the meme*

X video: https://bit.ly/3GOkOsU

X video (doggies doing the meme): https://bit.ly/4m4ncuk

* CEO cheating on kiss cam meme

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 20, 2025 04:50 PM (P5BPp)

222 Over 200 dead as relentless monsoon rains wreak havoc across Pakistan
[GEO.TV] At least 202 people — including 96 children — have bit the dust across Pakistain since the onset of the monsoon season in late June, the National Disaster Management Authority (NDMA) said on Saturday.
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Monsoon season. So, it rains cubic tons of water every year.

They never stopped bitching when India cut their water off.
They haven't built any dams, reservoirs or made other provision to supply themselves with water (it's not on the wiki or worldpopulationreview.com lists) desalination plants.
May God have mercy on the lost souls.

Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at July 20, 2025 05:06 PM (wHp1L)

223 I took a 60-grit flap wheel to my Lodge stovetop griddle. You know what I mean, how Lodge cast iron is all rough? There are online apologists for it, but I finally got sick of tearing towels on the rough surface. I have an old Lodge number 5 skillet that's smoother than glass, but this modern stuff you got to sand down.

Sanding revealed deeper imperfections, which I don't care about. They give the piece excellent character. I did four cycles of seasoning on the stovetop, and my Lodge griddle feels smoother than glass and looks very attractive. The design is elegant and will last forever.

I dunno. There's gotta be something to complain about around here. Oh yeah - Lodge apologists. Why do you want traction features on a non-stick surface, Lodge apologists?

I did better casting in high-school shop.

Posted by: Bombadil at July 20, 2025 05:21 PM (MX0bI)

224 Haven't tried the Weller yet, but my current fave is Widow Jane. Don't get the 12-year, tha balance Is off, the 10-year is perfect.

Posted by: Ib1netmon at July 20, 2025 06:08 PM (vTTFR)

225 Most vodkas in the US are around 80 proof. It's not a huge difference.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 20, 2025 02:15 PM (TdYBy)

"That's my thought.

CBD is about half a step from slurping sterno"

You say that like it is a bad thing.

Posted by: Ib1netmon at July 20, 2025 06:10 PM (vTTFR)

226 test

Posted by: Gref at July 20, 2025 06:31 PM (aBgBM)

227 I usually go for Evan Williams Bottled In Bond.
100 proof for ~$20 for a 750ml.

Knob 100 rye is twice that, so more EV, the better.

Posted by: On The Cheap at July 20, 2025 06:35 PM (nslIN)

228 What About Mouthwash.
Trevor Moore RIP.

Posted by: sTevo at July 20, 2025 06:37 PM (nslIN)

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