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Six Secret Service Agents Suspended Due to Failures at Butler Assassination Attempt
They're being suspended without pay. They're not being fired, but when they return to work, they will have "diminished operational responsibilities."Six members of the Secret Service have been suspended for failures related to last year's assassination attempt against President Trump at a rally in Butler, Pa. The suspensions for the six agents ranged from 10 to 42 days, and they won't be paid while on leave, Secret Service Deputy Director Matt Quinn told CBS News on Wednesday. The agents will not be fired, but upon return to work, they will be placed in roles with diminished operational responsibility. "We aren't going to fire our way out of this," Quinn told the outlet. "We're going to focus on the root cause and fix the deficiencies that put us in that situation."I think you're giving up too quickly on "firing our way out of this."
... A scathing Senate report on the assassination attempt released in September determined that "multiple foreseeable and preventable planning and operational failures by [Secret Service] contributed" to Crooks' ability to carry out the deadly shooting. "These included unclear roles and responsibilities, insufficient coordination with state and local law enforcement, the lack of effective communications, and inoperable [Counter-Unmanned Aircraft] systems, among many others," the damning report read. A second assasination attempt against Trump took place two months later at the president's Palm Beach, Fla., golf course. Quinn insisted that the Secret Service is "totally accountable for Butler." "Butler was an operational failure and we are focused today on ensuring that it never happens again," he said.
🚨BREAKING: Six Secret Service agents suspended over the Butler, PA assassination attempt on President Trump. pic.twitter.com/TJNZr3z6qJ
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) July 10, 2025
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"You mean I have to chase counterfeiters?!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)
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Good Morning
Good Morning
Posted by: four seasons at July 10, 2025 12:09 PM (3ek7K)
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Names please
Posted by: Zeera at July 10, 2025 12:09 PM (ahzH3)
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Good afternoon Ace and everyone
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2025 12:10 PM (+qU29)
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Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at July 10, 2025 12:10 PM (GYt5+)
Posted by: four seasons at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (3ek7K)
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As I said at the time, we really only have two conclusions to draw here:
1) the secret service is nowhere near as "elite" of a protective detail as is claimed, and it's just been blind luck (and lack of attempts) that have kept (most) presidents from being shot or killed
or
2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
1) the secret service is nowhere near as "elite" of a protective detail as is claimed, and it's just been blind luck (and lack of attempts) that have kept (most) presidents from being shot or killed
or
2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (uCjyK)
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I still remain in awe of President Trump's reaction time. Incredible how fast he hit the deck after seeing blood on his hand. There was no real lag, "What in the world" hesitation, he hit the floor.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
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They're being suspended without pay. They're not being fired, but when they return to work, they will have "diminished operational responsibilities."
I hope those "diminished operational responsibilities" include washing Dan Bongino's car, petsitting for Stephen Miller, and fast food takeout service for any cabinet official who wants some at 2 am.
I hope those "diminished operational responsibilities" include washing Dan Bongino's car, petsitting for Stephen Miller, and fast food takeout service for any cabinet official who wants some at 2 am.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:12 PM (uWKK8)
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Why not fire them? They royally *ucked up.
Posted by: four seasons at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (3ek7K)
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Probably something about law enforcement procedure for federal employees. Easier to access when they're still employed, sort of thing.
Why not fire them? They royally *ucked up.
Posted by: four seasons at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (3ek7K)
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Probably something about law enforcement procedure for federal employees. Easier to access when they're still employed, sort of thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:12 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 10, 2025 12:12 PM (6D/wt)
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I would be in favor or firing them all
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2025 12:12 PM (+qU29)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (ynpvh)
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A scathing Senate report on the assassination attempt released in September determined that "multiple foreseeable and preventable planning and operational failures by [Secret Service] contributed" to Crooks' ability to carry out the deadly shooting.
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Who told CNN to have a camera crew at the scene? Or was it incredible luck?
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Who told CNN to have a camera crew at the scene? Or was it incredible luck?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (Dv3i1)
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Secret Service Barbie.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (zhBpy)
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The agents will not be fired, but upon return to work, they will be placed in roles with diminished operational responsibility.
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Sometimes it is best to hope employees leave on their own.
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Sometimes it is best to hope employees leave on their own.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Fire Them All at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (r/wv3)
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Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 10, 2025 12:12 PM (6D/wt)
Worried you were doin' a Mitch McConnell...
Worried you were doin' a Mitch McConnell...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:14 PM (ynpvh)
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Assign them to Biden.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:14 PM (zhBpy)
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I think it's obvious FLOTUS made sure she got the best detail while leaving the second and third string for candidate Trump.
Conditions were intentionally created for this to happen and it almost worked. Only by Grace of God was President Trump spared.
Conditions were intentionally created for this to happen and it almost worked. Only by Grace of God was President Trump spared.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:14 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: The_Hoser at July 10, 2025 12:14 PM (f4jia)
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16 The agents will not be fired, but upon return to work, they will be placed in roles with diminished operational responsibility.
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Sometimes it is best to hope employees leave on their own.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (sX1BW)
For some reason I'm imagining Melissa McCarthy playing the movie roll for one of these agents...
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Sometimes it is best to hope employees leave on their own.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (sX1BW)
For some reason I'm imagining Melissa McCarthy playing the movie roll for one of these agents...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (ynpvh)
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I talk about the loss of competency in our institutions a lot, but it is hard for me to imagine that with all those professional secret service agents there, no one said "hey, that roof top right there should probably be watched closely, that looks like a perfect place for a sniper."
In fact, the original story from the secret service was (paraphrasing) "oh yeah, we definitely thought about that, but the roof was too sloped to put an agent on, so we decided to just ignore it."
In fact, the original story from the secret service was (paraphrasing) "oh yeah, we definitely thought about that, but the roof was too sloped to put an agent on, so we decided to just ignore it."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
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god I fuckin hate shit.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (fV+MH)
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I still remain in awe of President Trump's reaction time. Incredible how fast he hit the deck after seeing blood on his hand. There was no real lag, "What in the world" hesitation, he hit the floor.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
Excellent observation. I would imagine President Trump has had a bit of training in SA and do not hesitate to react, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
Excellent observation. I would imagine President Trump has had a bit of training in SA and do not hesitate to react, etc.
Posted by: Control at July 10, 2025 12:16 PM (r/wv3)
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24 god I fuckin hate shit.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (fV+MH)
As a colostomy bag user, I agree.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (fV+MH)
As a colostomy bag user, I agree.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:16 PM (ynpvh)
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They're being suspended without pay. They're not being fired, but when they return to work, they will have "diminished operational responsibilities."
Is this code for "reassigned to find out who is photocopying $20s at the Steamboat Springs Kinko's"? Because I truly hope so.
Is this code for "reassigned to find out who is photocopying $20s at the Steamboat Springs Kinko's"? Because I truly hope so.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:16 PM (D7oie)
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Yeah. Please explain why we can't fire our way out of this. If these people were incompetent a year ago, they are incompetent now, and they will still be incompetent a year from now.
Fire every last one of those who were involved.
Fire every last one of those who were involved.
Posted by: Ralph at July 10, 2025 12:16 PM (8WZD4)
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Oh boy - a whole 10 to 42 days?!?
That'll learn 'em!
Posted by: The_Hoser at July 10, 2025 12:14 PM (f4jia)
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Yeah, but they'll get their version of the Mark of Cain in their personnel file. They can probably kiss any chance at promotion good by.
That'll learn 'em!
Posted by: The_Hoser at July 10, 2025 12:14 PM (f4jia)
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Yeah, but they'll get their version of the Mark of Cain in their personnel file. They can probably kiss any chance at promotion good by.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:16 PM (tT6L1)
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In fact, the original story from the secret service was (paraphrasing) "oh yeah, we definitely thought about that, but the roof was too sloped to put an agent on, so we decided to just ignore it."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
Don't forget "well it was kinda hot that day, so I stayed in the air conditioned room."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
Don't forget "well it was kinda hot that day, so I stayed in the air conditioned room."
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (uWKK8)
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" Oh boy - a whole 10 to 42 days?!?
That'll learn 'em!
Posted by: The_Hoser"
I guess they're supposed to be embarrassed or humiliated or some shit.
That'll learn 'em!
Posted by: The_Hoser"
I guess they're supposed to be embarrassed or humiliated or some shit.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: EFG at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (Ai4Tb)
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Worried you were doin' a Mitch McConnell...
Posted by: jim
Nope just poor typing.
Mitch bring quiet is blessing.
Worried you were doin' a Mitch McConnell...
Posted by: jim
Nope just poor typing.
Mitch bring quiet is blessing.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (6D/wt)
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"Ummmm, yeaahhhh, we're going to need you guys to move your stuff down to Storage B"...
Posted by: Lumbergh at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (/HDaX)
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Shouldn't we be hiring Gurkhas to deal with sloped roofs?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (od0dV)
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Maybe it is code for "transferred in grade to TSA where they will work for two months, and then be let go for 'poor fit' and 'sorry about your pension'"
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (D7oie)
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I was told I could have a stapler.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (zhBpy)
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27 They're being suspended without pay. They're not being fired, but when they return to work, they will have "diminished operational responsibilities."
Is this code for "reassigned to find out who is photocopying $20s at the Steamboat Springs Kinko's"? Because I truly hope so.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:16 PM (D7oie)
I wonder if most people realize that many printer and copiers have code in their microprocessors to identify money being copied...and also, print, in yellow dots, information about the printer being used to print docs?...
Is this code for "reassigned to find out who is photocopying $20s at the Steamboat Springs Kinko's"? Because I truly hope so.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:16 PM (D7oie)
I wonder if most people realize that many printer and copiers have code in their microprocessors to identify money being copied...and also, print, in yellow dots, information about the printer being used to print docs?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (ynpvh)
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I wonder if the short chubby female Barney Fife that struggled to holster her weapon and looked all panicked… I wonder if she’s one of the 6
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (+kWhq)
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (fV+MH)
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31 " Oh boy - a whole 10 to 42 days?!?
That'll learn 'em!
Posted by: The_Hoser"
I guess they're supposed to be embarrassed or humiliated or some shit.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (fV+MH)
like I said above, you always need someone around who's job is to go pick up chinese takeout at 2 am.
That'll learn 'em!
Posted by: The_Hoser"
I guess they're supposed to be embarrassed or humiliated or some shit.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (fV+MH)
like I said above, you always need someone around who's job is to go pick up chinese takeout at 2 am.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (uWKK8)
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Shouldn't we be hiring Gurkhas to deal with sloped roofs?
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (od0dV)
I thought Koreans were best for sloped roofs.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (od0dV)
I thought Koreans were best for sloped roofs.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (D7oie)
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30 In fact, the original story from the secret service was (paraphrasing) "oh yeah, we definitely thought about that, but the roof was too sloped to put an agent on, so we decided to just ignore it."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
Don't forget "well it was kinda hot that day, so I stayed in the air conditioned room."
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (uWKK
Well, if cows can get on such a sloped roof, then those SS agents were perfect.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:15 PM (uCjyK)
Don't forget "well it was kinda hot that day, so I stayed in the air conditioned room."
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (uWKK
Well, if cows can get on such a sloped roof, then those SS agents were perfect.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
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Afternoon Ace.
I wonder if they'll suspend the head supervisor in the area who assigned more and more experienced agents to Dr Jill.
I wonder if they'll suspend the head supervisor in the area who assigned more and more experienced agents to Dr Jill.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (JtH6i)
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I wonder if most people realize that many printer and copiers have code in their microprocessors to identify money being copied...and also, print, in yellow dots, information about the printer being used to print docs?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (ynpvh)
and that may be why your printer doesn't work when the yellow ink is run dry?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (ynpvh)
and that may be why your printer doesn't work when the yellow ink is run dry?
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (D7oie)
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38 I wonder if most people realize that many printer and copiers have code in their microprocessors to identify money being copied...and also, print, in yellow dots, information about the printer being used to print docs?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (ynpvh)
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In the first episode of The Wire, a junkie used a black and white copy machine to make money.
It worked because the dealer didn't look very closely at the money.
"Money green, mother fucker."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (ynpvh)
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In the first episode of The Wire, a junkie used a black and white copy machine to make money.
It worked because the dealer didn't look very closely at the money.
"Money green, mother fucker."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
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I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (NpAcC)
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like I said above, you always need someone around who's job is to go pick up chinese takeout at 2 am.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (uWKK
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Probably need to brush up on their coffee fetching skills, too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (uWKK
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Probably need to brush up on their coffee fetching skills, too.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (tT6L1)
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2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (uCjyK)
If it's an aberration, was it specific to this event to facilitate this specific shooter or did they simply erode the number and quality of SSAs until somebody got through?
2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (uCjyK)
If it's an aberration, was it specific to this event to facilitate this specific shooter or did they simply erode the number and quality of SSAs until somebody got through?
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (pIfcn)
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Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Both. Obammy years and DEI caused a lot of problems for the agency as well as moving the agency to the blob Homeland Security under idiot GWB.
Second, the order for Trump to get the third rate protection detail occurred suddenly after one of the Bidens (Jill mebbe) demanded top level security which caused Trump's normal team to be reassigned.
A lot of the Deep State are Dems/commies in the agencies and my guess is that whoever told Jill to go somewhere had the clout to likewise ensure Trump not to get good protection at Butler.
If we view DC as typical monarchies (albeit elected), the amount of money and power is easily worth killing people in order to retain those. And often the monarchs are reluctant to pry too much into those plots because it would end up destabilizing the government (see the Poison plot by Mdm Montespan in Louis XIV's reign).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Both. Obammy years and DEI caused a lot of problems for the agency as well as moving the agency to the blob Homeland Security under idiot GWB.
Second, the order for Trump to get the third rate protection detail occurred suddenly after one of the Bidens (Jill mebbe) demanded top level security which caused Trump's normal team to be reassigned.
A lot of the Deep State are Dems/commies in the agencies and my guess is that whoever told Jill to go somewhere had the clout to likewise ensure Trump not to get good protection at Butler.
If we view DC as typical monarchies (albeit elected), the amount of money and power is easily worth killing people in order to retain those. And often the monarchs are reluctant to pry too much into those plots because it would end up destabilizing the government (see the Poison plot by Mdm Montespan in Louis XIV's reign).
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5)
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Oh no. Not suspended.
Will it go in their permanent record too?
Will it go in their permanent record too?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (ImXfC)
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A scathing Senate report on the assassination attempt
This is the ONLY reason those agents were suspended. If there hadn't been a public report, nothing would have been done about the failures.
This is the ONLY reason those agents were suspended. If there hadn't been a public report, nothing would have been done about the failures.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (0Htd1)
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25 I still remain in awe of President Trump's reaction time. Incredible how fast he hit the deck after seeing blood on his hand. There was no real lag, "What in the world" hesitation, he hit the floor.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
It would have taken Biden 8 minutes to drop his ice cream cone and make it to the ground.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
It would have taken Biden 8 minutes to drop his ice cream cone and make it to the ground.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (IifOV)
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it's a start
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (xcxpd)
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Don't forget "well it was kinda hot that day, so I stayed in the air conditioned room."
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (uWKK
Right. If we are to believe that that is how they operate, then they are some of the most unelite protective services in the world.
Maybe Trump should just get rid of the secret service altogether and hire more competent people. Who does Taylor Swift use for her security?
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:17 PM (uWKK
Right. If we are to believe that that is how they operate, then they are some of the most unelite protective services in the world.
Maybe Trump should just get rid of the secret service altogether and hire more competent people. Who does Taylor Swift use for her security?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (uCjyK)
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51 Oh no. Not suspended.
Will it go in their permanent record too?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM
They were put on super secret probation.
Will it go in their permanent record too?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM
They were put on super secret probation.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 10, 2025 12:21 PM (IifOV)
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Seems like this is the only rally of hundreds that there was any press at. You would think it was the only one he had if just watching drive by news.
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:21 PM (SJnNf)
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I heard that there is no list of the 6 suspended agents so, it can't be released.
Posted by: MLCross at July 10, 2025 12:22 PM (Q2MxE)
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56 51 Oh no. Not suspended.
Will it go in their permanent record too?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM
They were put on super secret probation.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 10, 2025 12:21 PM (IifOV)
Maybe the have to watch Joey...
Will it go in their permanent record too?
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM
They were put on super secret probation.
Posted by: Dean Wormer at July 10, 2025 12:21 PM (IifOV)
Maybe the have to watch Joey...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:22 PM (ynpvh)
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>> wonder if the short chubby female Barney Fife that struggled to holster her weapon and looked all panicked… I wonder if she’s one of the 6
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (+kWhq)
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Exactly what I was thinking. What a disgrace.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 12:18 PM (+kWhq)
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Exactly what I was thinking. What a disgrace.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 10, 2025 12:22 PM (bNf8H)
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You know, in certain older civilized cultures, when men failed as entirely as you have, they would throw themselves on their swords.
Posted by: The Operative - Serenity at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (TbWk/)
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I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood
Not paying hookers in Columbia was my first clue the SS had lost it's panache... and skills.
Posted by: redridinghood
Not paying hookers in Columbia was my first clue the SS had lost it's panache... and skills.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (6D/wt)
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So they tried to get Trump killed and almost succeeded,
and they get the Costanza treatment.
How in the fuck are you supposed to spell succeed?
and they get the Costanza treatment.
How in the fuck are you supposed to spell succeed?
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (fV+MH)
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I wonder if most people realize that many printer and copiers have code in their microprocessors to identify money being copied...and also, print, in yellow dots, information about the printer being used to print docs?...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Easier to do credit card fraud in the US (also Secret Service jurisdiction) but a LOT of dollars floating around outside the US are fakes where producers have much less risk and sometimes official protection. Norks actually run state sponsored counterfeiting of US currency for example and been doing that shit for decades.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Easier to do credit card fraud in the US (also Secret Service jurisdiction) but a LOT of dollars floating around outside the US are fakes where producers have much less risk and sometimes official protection. Norks actually run state sponsored counterfeiting of US currency for example and been doing that shit for decades.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (ctrM5)
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If we view DC as typical monarchies (albeit elected), the amount of money and power is easily worth killing people in order to retain those. And often the monarchs are reluctant to pry too much into those plots because it would end up destabilizing the government (see the Poison plot by Mdm Montespan in Louis XIV's reign).
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5)
Agreed. I think it is well within the realm of possibilities that someone maneuvered this scenario. (ie: putting the most incompetent / DEI hires in charge of this event, knowing that they'd fuck it up. Then when Trump survived the attempt, going in to CYA mode.)
But, for the same reason we'll never know the full story of Epstein or JFK, RFK, etc., I think we will likely never know the full story of what happened in Butler. As you say, too much power and money at stake.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5)
Agreed. I think it is well within the realm of possibilities that someone maneuvered this scenario. (ie: putting the most incompetent / DEI hires in charge of this event, knowing that they'd fuck it up. Then when Trump survived the attempt, going in to CYA mode.)
But, for the same reason we'll never know the full story of Epstein or JFK, RFK, etc., I think we will likely never know the full story of what happened in Butler. As you say, too much power and money at stake.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (uCjyK)
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I still remain in awe of President Trump's reaction time. Incredible how fast he hit the deck after seeing blood on his hand. There was no real lag, "What in the world" hesitation, he hit the floor.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
There are several protection companies that also provide training for the protectees. The one I heard about also shoots the protectee with wax bullets if they get it wrong, just to drive home the point.
I suspect Trump went through it three or four times to get it right. He has that sort of personality.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
There are several protection companies that also provide training for the protectees. The one I heard about also shoots the protectee with wax bullets if they get it wrong, just to drive home the point.
I suspect Trump went through it three or four times to get it right. He has that sort of personality.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)
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I think you're giving up too quickly on "firing our way out of this."
I hear that waterboarding is effective
I think you're giving up too quickly on "firing our way out of this."
I hear that waterboarding is effective
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (y9nCu)
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (et1vG)
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Many people have been fired for far less egregious errors in planning and judgment.
Posted by: Indy Bill at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (Wx7HT)
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Why not fire them? They royally *ucked up.
Posted by: four seasons
Because they are government employees. In the eighties and nineties most of the people I hung out with worked for federal, state, or local government agencies. I never heard of anyone being fired for incompetence, or for any other reason. A lot of the worst employees actually get promotions.
Why not fire them? They royally *ucked up.
Posted by: four seasons
Because they are government employees. In the eighties and nineties most of the people I hung out with worked for federal, state, or local government agencies. I never heard of anyone being fired for incompetence, or for any other reason. A lot of the worst employees actually get promotions.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (0Htd1)
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Is the fat chick one of them?
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (et1vG)
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I would doubt that any of those who put themselves between Trump and potential danger would be part of the reprimanded group, even if she couldn't get her gun from her holster.
Is the fat chick one of them?
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (et1vG)
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I would doubt that any of those who put themselves between Trump and potential danger would be part of the reprimanded group, even if she couldn't get her gun from her holster.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
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47 I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (NpAcC)
They haven't exactly covered themselves in honor historically either.
Didn't a bunch of agents get caught up in a very public argument with hookers in South America when Obama was president?
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (NpAcC)
They haven't exactly covered themselves in honor historically either.
Didn't a bunch of agents get caught up in a very public argument with hookers in South America when Obama was president?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:25 PM (uCjyK)
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As a colostomy bag user, I agree.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Damn, when do you get rid of that thing? Are you in some long-term healing process?
As a colostomy bag user, I agree.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Damn, when do you get rid of that thing? Are you in some long-term healing process?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:25 PM (UmB+t)
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Find out who orchestrated Jill Biden's and Kamala's movements that day that required shuffling of Secret Service agents and changes in protocols. IIRC that person was Jill's assistant in some capacity. It was, by some accounts, highly irregular.
Get that person, who I believe did not get a pardon, in front of a useless Congressional committee so she can plead the fifth. Then we'll all know...
Get that person, who I believe did not get a pardon, in front of a useless Congressional committee so she can plead the fifth. Then we'll all know...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (Q4IgG)
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I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Under Biden? Weren't they doing hookers and blow in Venezuela under Obama?
I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood
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Under Biden? Weren't they doing hookers and blow in Venezuela under Obama?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (UmB+t)
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Stiffing hookers. What kind of shit is that? Don't we pay those assholes enough?
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (SJnNf)
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72 47 I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (NpAcC)
They haven't exactly covered themselves in honor historically either.
Didn't a bunch of agents get caught up in a very public argument with hookers in South America when Obama was president?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:25 PM (uCjyK)
Wheels up, rings off.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (NpAcC)
They haven't exactly covered themselves in honor historically either.
Didn't a bunch of agents get caught up in a very public argument with hookers in South America when Obama was president?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:25 PM (uCjyK)
Wheels up, rings off.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (xcxpd)
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This seems to be a problem in law enforcement across the board. The fuckups don't get shitcanned the way anyone in just about any other job would if they fucked up as badly, they get "reassigned" "put on paid administrative leave" or the resign in lieu of discipline only for their stupid ass to show up working at some other agency. This culture of coddling not just mistake but gross failure and outright abuse has got to stop, especially when you're talking about people with guns and qualified immunity.
Posted by: Fuck up move up (or sideways) must end at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (TbWk/)
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58 I heard that there is no list of the 6 suspended agents so, it can't be released.
Posted by: MLCross
Employee disciplinary files are exempt from FOIA. And suspending them is actually a good precursor to firing them later for bad performance reviews. Other than Reductions in Force like in other agencies, if you want to fire a federal employee, they have substantial due process rights, even more if the firing 'stigmatizes' them (that gives them liberty due process claims as well as property). So it ain't as simple to fire ground level employees as those primarily involved in upper levels under Humphrey's Executor or Myers cases.
Posted by: MLCross
Employee disciplinary files are exempt from FOIA. And suspending them is actually a good precursor to firing them later for bad performance reviews. Other than Reductions in Force like in other agencies, if you want to fire a federal employee, they have substantial due process rights, even more if the firing 'stigmatizes' them (that gives them liberty due process claims as well as property). So it ain't as simple to fire ground level employees as those primarily involved in upper levels under Humphrey's Executor or Myers cases.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (ctrM5)
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Norks actually run state sponsored counterfeiting of US currency for example and been doing that shit for decades.
Posted by: whig
Iran was printing Super 100s for may years.
Posted by: whig
Iran was printing Super 100s for may years.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (6D/wt)
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78 This seems to be a problem in law enforcement across the board. The fuckups don't get shitcanned the way anyone in just about any other job would if they fucked up as badly, they get "reassigned" "put on paid administrative leave" or the resign in lieu of discipline only for their stupid ass to show up working at some other agency. This culture of coddling not just mistake but gross failure and outright abuse has got to stop, especially when you're talking about people with guns and qualified immunity.
Posted by: Fuck up move up (or sideways) must end at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (TbWk/)
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Theory:
Reno 911! was a documentary, not a comedy show.
Discuss.
Posted by: Fuck up move up (or sideways) must end at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (TbWk/)
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Theory:
Reno 911! was a documentary, not a comedy show.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
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I think you're giving up too quickly on "firing our way out of this."
I hear that waterboarding is effective
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (y9nCu)
That's good thinkin!
I hear that waterboarding is effective
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (y9nCu)
That's good thinkin!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (xcxpd)
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They are swamp critters. They stay until pension.
Posted by: torabora at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (Z6q/G)
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I suspect Trump went through it three or four times to get it right. He has that sort of personality.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)
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I was thinking more in term of President Trump's age. He's not a young man yet, he managed when he had to. For me, it was sort of reassuring, knowing the guy I planned on voting for still had it together.
I suspect Trump went through it three or four times to get it right. He has that sort of personality.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:23 PM (D7oie)
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I was thinking more in term of President Trump's age. He's not a young man yet, he managed when he had to. For me, it was sort of reassuring, knowing the guy I planned on voting for still had it together.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: illiniwek at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (vbXSk)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (UmB+t)
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84 I was thinking more in term of President Trump's age. He's not a young man yet, he managed when he had to. For me, it was sort of reassuring, knowing the guy I planned on voting for still had it together.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (tT6L1)
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*stares off into the middle distance with his mouth agape*
-Joe Biden
*laughs about bacon as a spice*
-Kamala Harris
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (tT6L1)
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*stares off into the middle distance with his mouth agape*
-Joe Biden
*laughs about bacon as a spice*
-Kamala Harris
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (GBKbO)
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Secret Service Barbie.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (zhBpy)
She comes with a gun and a holster, but the gun doesn't fit in the holster.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:13 PM (zhBpy)
She comes with a gun and a holster, but the gun doesn't fit in the holster.
Posted by: Methos at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (zLwRl)
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66 Wax bullets and the protectee. The SAS uses nothing but live ammo in training. I guess it keeps the lads on their toes. Margaret Thatcher underwent a hostage rescue scenario with the SAS, and yes, they used live ammo. She described it as exciting.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (gm9Sb)
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to be a problem in law enforcement across the board. The fuckups don't get shitcanned the way anyone in just about any other job would if they fucked up as badly, they get "reassigned"
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No comment.
- Catholic Church
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No comment.
- Catholic Church
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (ImXfC)
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76 Stiffing hookers. What kind of shit is that? Don't we pay those assholes enough?
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (SJnNf)
You would think.
And call me old fashioned, but I'd prefer members of my elite protective services to not be banging hookers even if they're off the clock.
Seems like a great way to get yourself compromised by intel agencies or foreign powers. "Hey, we have pictures of you sucking some whores toes while you were traveling for work. Wouldn't want those pictures to end up with your wives and bosses, would we?"
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (SJnNf)
You would think.
And call me old fashioned, but I'd prefer members of my elite protective services to not be banging hookers even if they're off the clock.
Seems like a great way to get yourself compromised by intel agencies or foreign powers. "Hey, we have pictures of you sucking some whores toes while you were traveling for work. Wouldn't want those pictures to end up with your wives and bosses, would we?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)
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They had one job. To secure the area and protect the candidate. They failed on both counts. They are not SS material. They don't belong in that agency, period.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (qBdHI)
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Is this code for "reassigned to find out who is photocopying $20s at the Steamboat Springs Kinko's"? Because I truly hope so.
Posted by: Kindltot
I'm hoping for all of them being assigned to investigating counterfeiting at the Johnston Atoll
Posted by: Kindltot
I'm hoping for all of them being assigned to investigating counterfeiting at the Johnston Atoll
Posted by: Chuck C at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (D0HYP)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (+aMIZ)
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Because they are government employees. In the eighties and nineties most of the people I hung out with worked for federal, state, or local government agencies. I never heard of anyone being fired for incompetence, or for any other reason. A lot of the worst employees actually get promotions.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (0Htd1)
This is true. As a former employee of a federal contractor I worked with government personnel that routinely exceeded their statutory authority and interpreted contracts in an extremely dubious manner (always to the government's benefit of course) They were eventually caught and called out on it by their superiors-- after our company took several expensive hits of course. The folks that were caught were allowed to retire or jump to other agencies where I assume they continue screwing over contractors to this day.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:24 PM (0Htd1)
This is true. As a former employee of a federal contractor I worked with government personnel that routinely exceeded their statutory authority and interpreted contracts in an extremely dubious manner (always to the government's benefit of course) They were eventually caught and called out on it by their superiors-- after our company took several expensive hits of course. The folks that were caught were allowed to retire or jump to other agencies where I assume they continue screwing over contractors to this day.
Posted by: Polka will never die at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (I4CNo)
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It’s government employees. Good enough for government work is a saying for a reason.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (ImXfC)
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8 I still remain in awe of President Trump's reaction time.
As they dragged him out he yelled, "Fight, fight, fight." He knew exactly how to respond. That man is on top of things.
As they dragged him out he yelled, "Fight, fight, fight." He knew exactly how to respond. That man is on top of things.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (0Htd1)
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Put 'em to work doing landscape work at Mar-a-Lago. Win-win.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 10, 2025 12:31 PM (XeU6L)
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Margaret Thatcher underwent a hostage rescue scenario with the SAS, and yes, they used live ammo. She described it as exciting.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (gm9Sb)
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No worries. She was the Iron Lady.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (gm9Sb)
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No worries. She was the Iron Lady.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 10, 2025 12:31 PM (kYF0p)
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As they dragged him out he yelled, "Fight, fight, fight." He knew exactly how to respond. That man is on top of things.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (0Htd1)
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The most iconic moment in my time on this planet. With apologies to Mr. Neil Armstrong.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (0Htd1)
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The most iconic moment in my time on this planet. With apologies to Mr. Neil Armstrong.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:32 PM (tT6L1)
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74 Find out who orchestrated Jill Biden's and Kamala's movements that day that required shuffling of Secret Service agents and changes in protocols. IIRC that person was Jill's assistant in some capacity. It was, by some accounts, highly irregular.
Get that person, who I believe did not get a pardon, in front of a useless Congressional committee so she can plead the fifth. Then we'll all know...
Posted by: Martini Farmer
And that person was told by someone else, likely in the campaigns, and that DNC/campaign staffer was told by senior campaign management staffer (Jill need to shore up support in Philadelphia blah blah blah) and the senior staffer had that suggested by someone else such as a campaign donor.
All have plausible deniability and able to pass the bucks to blame others.
Intel ops often consist of insertion into the ordinary bureaucratic flow of agencies and political operations so as to cover their own tracks.
Example of the pagers is Mossad is a perfect example. Mossad got into the acquisitions of comms for Hezbollah and skillfully guided them into choosing that particular firm with that particular fake manufacturing, etc.
Get that person, who I believe did not get a pardon, in front of a useless Congressional committee so she can plead the fifth. Then we'll all know...
Posted by: Martini Farmer
And that person was told by someone else, likely in the campaigns, and that DNC/campaign staffer was told by senior campaign management staffer (Jill need to shore up support in Philadelphia blah blah blah) and the senior staffer had that suggested by someone else such as a campaign donor.
All have plausible deniability and able to pass the bucks to blame others.
Intel ops often consist of insertion into the ordinary bureaucratic flow of agencies and political operations so as to cover their own tracks.
Example of the pagers is Mossad is a perfect example. Mossad got into the acquisitions of comms for Hezbollah and skillfully guided them into choosing that particular firm with that particular fake manufacturing, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:32 PM (ctrM5)
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Theory:
Reno 911! was a documentary, not a comedy show.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
Look up the Coffee City police department. It's pretty much that in real life, only without anything humorous about it.
Reno 911! was a documentary, not a comedy show.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
Look up the Coffee City police department. It's pretty much that in real life, only without anything humorous about it.
Posted by: People in power systems protect the system at July 10, 2025 12:32 PM (TbWk/)
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No comment.
- Catholic Church
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (ImXfC)
To defend the Catholic church here a bit -- it was not THAT widespread, and the church treated the, ahem, incidents as moral failings, rather than legal failings.
The priests confessed their sins, did penance, and were absolved. The Church tried to move them to places where they wouldn't be tempted to sin again.
Not GREAT, and not how the church treats child diddling now, but it's not like the church was purposely trying to protect child molesters, even if that ended up being the outcome.
Unlike the government, who does purposely try to protect all kinds of miscreants and criminals, including the child molesting teachers who make up a not-insignificant part of the Dem Deep State through their very powerful unions.
- Catholic Church
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (ImXfC)
To defend the Catholic church here a bit -- it was not THAT widespread, and the church treated the, ahem, incidents as moral failings, rather than legal failings.
The priests confessed their sins, did penance, and were absolved. The Church tried to move them to places where they wouldn't be tempted to sin again.
Not GREAT, and not how the church treats child diddling now, but it's not like the church was purposely trying to protect child molesters, even if that ended up being the outcome.
Unlike the government, who does purposely try to protect all kinds of miscreants and criminals, including the child molesting teachers who make up a not-insignificant part of the Dem Deep State through their very powerful unions.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:32 PM (uCjyK)
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I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood
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There was also that much earlier failure when some loon slipped away from a White House tour and got into the private quarters. I remember that intellectually challenged agent in charge saying that the agents on duty exercised "admirable restraint" in not taking down the loon.
I think the Secret Service got lazy under Biden.
Posted by: redridinghood
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There was also that much earlier failure when some loon slipped away from a White House tour and got into the private quarters. I remember that intellectually challenged agent in charge saying that the agents on duty exercised "admirable restraint" in not taking down the loon.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (UmB+t)
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they get "reassigned" "put on paid administrative leave"
That's standard practice to reduce litigation exposure.
That's standard practice to reduce litigation exposure.
Posted by: man at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (twEYS)
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15 Secret Service Barbie.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Barbie isn't usually a rolly poly falling against the car door.
Posted by: Boss Moss
Barbie isn't usually a rolly poly falling against the car door.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (0Htd1)
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Under Biden? Weren't they doing hookers and blow in Venezuela under Obama?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (UmB+t)
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True. I see a pattern though... Democrat administration.
Trump is lucky he wasn’t assassinated during his first term with these lazy assholes guarding him.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:26 PM (UmB+t)
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True. I see a pattern though... Democrat administration.
Trump is lucky he wasn’t assassinated during his first term with these lazy assholes guarding him.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (NpAcC)
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Now that you are out, you get to guard the dog.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (bv2/x)
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Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (UmB+t)
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Meant to say, that was in Trump's first term.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (UmB+t)
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Meant to say, that was in Trump's first term.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (UmB+t)
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Only in govt work are you "punished" with 10 - 42 days absence without pay but guaranteed return to paid employment for the abject failure of your basic duties resulting in the near absolute failure of your assigned mission. The only "diminished" role these corrupt or incompetent aholes should get is firing if not also criminal investigations.
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (tivWi)
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How many agents with actual qualifications for the Presidential detail get turned down because they weren't Checkbox Americans?
Posted by: NR Pax at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (lXoJ5)
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The fat one couldn't put her gun back in the holster.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (zhBpy)
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President Trump yelling "fight, fight, fight" was one of the coolest things I have ever seen on live TV. Saying that, I was watching the man at the Iowa State Fair and got a bit nervous.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at July 10, 2025 12:33 PM (gm9Sb)
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Seems like a great way to get yourself compromised by intel agencies or foreign powers. "Hey, we have pictures of you sucking some whores toes while you were traveling for work. Wouldn't want those pictures to end up with your wives and bosses, would we?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)
Agreed.
But why add then "how do you make a hormone?" joke to it? Just pay them already? Whores gotta eat too.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:29 PM (uCjyK)
Agreed.
But why add then "how do you make a hormone?" joke to it? Just pay them already? Whores gotta eat too.
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:34 PM (SJnNf)
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Coward. Should be fired. It does send a message. You are not going to powerpoint train competency or ethics.
My guess the reassignment will be back to uniform pulling embassy duty.
My guess the reassignment will be back to uniform pulling embassy duty.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, Ltd. at July 10, 2025 12:34 PM (m5P/4)
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90 to be a problem in law enforcement across the board. The fuckups don't get shitcanned the way anyone in just about any other job would if they fucked up as badly, they get "reassigned"
—
No comment.
- Catholic Church
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (ImXfC)
*whistling innocently and avoiding eye contact*
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No comment.
- Catholic Church
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (ImXfC)
*whistling innocently and avoiding eye contact*
Posted by: Teachers' Union at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (TbWk/)
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Iran was printing Super 100s for may years.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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To be fair, so has the Federal Reserve. Paper pretending to be sound currency. From what I understand about Iran, a lot of the fake 100's are a substitute internal currency traded among Iranians as much as used for bad shit abroad.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
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To be fair, so has the Federal Reserve. Paper pretending to be sound currency. From what I understand about Iran, a lot of the fake 100's are a substitute internal currency traded among Iranians as much as used for bad shit abroad.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (ctrM5)
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Secret Service was more concerned with hiring quotas and pronouns.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (IifOV)
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Thinking about the hookers and blow in Mexico scandal, I can see SS agents pressuring a newbie into joining them so, A: they have a hold over him and B, they can ostracize him if he declines.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: man at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (twEYS)
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Trump got up at Butler saying "Fight!" Take a hundred men, probably ninety would want.to stay down, nine would want to get up but would stay down because SS agents said so. And then you would have one like Trump.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (kYF0p)
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Over the last few years I have attended a couple of events where I was able to observe the Secret Service folks up close. I was not impressed at all.
Last week I was playing golf at Trump's course in Virginia when he was playing. A huge difference!
- Thoroughly professional.
- Excellent coverage. (And securing a golf course is almost impossible)
- It seems a rule that all snipers must have beards.
- There is something bout a good looking lady with a Car-4.......
Last week I was playing golf at Trump's course in Virginia when he was playing. A huge difference!
- Thoroughly professional.
- Excellent coverage. (And securing a golf course is almost impossible)
- It seems a rule that all snipers must have beards.
- There is something bout a good looking lady with a Car-4.......
Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (W/lyH)
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Agreed.
But why add then "how do you make a hormone?" joke to it? Just pay them already? Whores gotta eat too.
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:34 PM (SJnNf)
I think the story was that the SS agents felt they were being overcharged for the services provided, and felt that it was a bit of a shakedown by the whores.
Which it probably was.
But, agreed, that is the risk you run when you're a secret service agent protecting the president and decide to use your off-duty time to have sex with whores in the third world who just see you as a gigantic walking dollar sign. Unlike the whores back home who truly care about you, because you're different than the other guys.
But why add then "how do you make a hormone?" joke to it? Just pay them already? Whores gotta eat too.
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:34 PM (SJnNf)
I think the story was that the SS agents felt they were being overcharged for the services provided, and felt that it was a bit of a shakedown by the whores.
Which it probably was.
But, agreed, that is the risk you run when you're a secret service agent protecting the president and decide to use your off-duty time to have sex with whores in the third world who just see you as a gigantic walking dollar sign. Unlike the whores back home who truly care about you, because you're different than the other guys.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:36 PM (uCjyK)
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Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at July 10, 2025 12:28 PM (ImXfC)
You could have picked public schools if you wanted a lot more molesters.
You could have picked public schools if you wanted a lot more molesters.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:36 PM (Qr870)
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Do we know any more about Thomas Crooks today than we did 360 days ago? No we don’t… that fact is telling
All kinds of investigative journalists just dove into that right?
All kinds of investigative journalists just dove into that right?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 12:36 PM (ZtAny)
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They're being suspended without pay. They're not being fired, but when they return to work, they will have "diminished operational responsibilities."
I hope those "diminished operational responsibilities" include washing Dan Bongino's car, petsitting for Stephen Miller, and fast food takeout service for any cabinet official who wants some at 2 am.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:12 PM (uWKK
Put 'em to work in the cellar of some government office building, swiping twenty-dollars bills with a magic marker to detect counterfeits.
I hope those "diminished operational responsibilities" include washing Dan Bongino's car, petsitting for Stephen Miller, and fast food takeout service for any cabinet official who wants some at 2 am.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 12:12 PM (uWKK
Put 'em to work in the cellar of some government office building, swiping twenty-dollars bills with a magic marker to detect counterfeits.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2025 12:36 PM (NhG0j)
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73
As a colostomy bag user, I agree.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Damn, when do you get rid of that thing? Are you in some long-term healing process?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:25 PM (UmB+t)
Maybe surgery in October. Post-surgery may need ileostomy bag, so a new hole to my abdomen would be added if large intestine needs more healing...
As a colostomy bag user, I agree.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Damn, when do you get rid of that thing? Are you in some long-term healing process?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:25 PM (UmB+t)
Maybe surgery in October. Post-surgery may need ileostomy bag, so a new hole to my abdomen would be added if large intestine needs more healing...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:37 PM (ynpvh)
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Do you think short lady agent was suspended?
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at July 10, 2025 12:37 PM (dE3DB)
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True. I see a pattern though... Democrat administration.
Trump is lucky he wasn’t assassinated during his first term with these lazy assholes guarding him.
Posted by: redridinghood
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I suspect the pattern was first formed when affirmative action became a priority in federal hiring. At the same time, I think heterosexual males have a massive weakness and they should be rotated out of roles as privileged as the SS before they get comfortable. Also, use women where possible. ("Possible" does not include roles requiring superior strength, obviously.)
True. I see a pattern though... Democrat administration.
Trump is lucky he wasn’t assassinated during his first term with these lazy assholes guarding him.
Posted by: redridinghood
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I suspect the pattern was first formed when affirmative action became a priority in federal hiring. At the same time, I think heterosexual males have a massive weakness and they should be rotated out of roles as privileged as the SS before they get comfortable. Also, use women where possible. ("Possible" does not include roles requiring superior strength, obviously.)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:37 PM (UmB+t)
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Seems like a great way to get yourself compromised by intel agencies or foreign powers. "Hey, we have pictures of you sucking some whores toes while you were traveling for work. Wouldn't want those pictures to end up with your wives and bosses, would we?"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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And Fat Leonard used that modus operandi to get a lot of information about US Navy ops in Asia. Hookers, booze, and bribes.
Twas ever thus.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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And Fat Leonard used that modus operandi to get a lot of information about US Navy ops in Asia. Hookers, booze, and bribes.
Twas ever thus.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:37 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Seems Legit at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (qBdHI)
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Becoming a fed employee must be like becoming an ordained minister.
Posted by: Accomack at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (+Bkka)
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No fat chicks.
Posted by: The Secret Service at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (zhBpy)
135
Matt! The Mattster! The Quinn man! The Big Cheese! Makin' copies! Only one copy for the Matt-man!
Posted by: Butler Secret Service Agent reassigned duties after suspension at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (wVcYX)
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https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/
1943344912642248928/history
Information on the who:
EXCLUSIVE AND #BREAKING: The real story behind the six Secret Service suspensions over Butler failures:
Key supervisors who signed off on the Butler security plan and two who were on the final walkthroughs before the J13 rally were never disciplined but instead received BIG PROMOTIONS, multiple sources in the Secret Service community tell RealClearPolitics
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There's much more. It's a long X.
1943344912642248928/history
Information on the who:
EXCLUSIVE AND #BREAKING: The real story behind the six Secret Service suspensions over Butler failures:
Key supervisors who signed off on the Butler security plan and two who were on the final walkthroughs before the J13 rally were never disciplined but instead received BIG PROMOTIONS, multiple sources in the Secret Service community tell RealClearPolitics
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There's much more. It's a long X.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (GBKbO)
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Root cause? They were so unsat that it looked like they were deliberately taking a dive to help kill Trump
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 12:39 PM (ciYHQ)
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The SS really has to retrain that woman agent who couldn't manage to holster her weapon at the Butler shooting
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2025 12:39 PM (JtH6i)
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Maybe surgery in October. Post-surgery may need ileostomy bag, so a new hole to my abdomen would be added if large intestine needs more healing...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Man, hang in! I hope your doctors are good.
Maybe surgery in October. Post-surgery may need ileostomy bag, so a new hole to my abdomen would be added if large intestine needs more healing...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Man, hang in! I hope your doctors are good.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:39 PM (UmB+t)
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93 Is this code for "reassigned to find out who is photocopying $20s at the Steamboat Springs Kinko's"? Because I truly hope so.
Posted by: Kindltot
I'm hoping for all of them being assigned to investigating counterfeiting at the Johnston Atoll
Posted by: Chuck C at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (D0HYP)
Every time I hear or see the word atoll, I think of a Beanie & Cecil episode involving the No Bikini Atoll...
https://youtu.be/88QOmxSa-IE
Posted by: Kindltot
I'm hoping for all of them being assigned to investigating counterfeiting at the Johnston Atoll
Posted by: Chuck C at July 10, 2025 12:30 PM (D0HYP)
Every time I hear or see the word atoll, I think of a Beanie & Cecil episode involving the No Bikini Atoll...
https://youtu.be/88QOmxSa-IE
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 10, 2025 12:39 PM (ynpvh)
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On the suspensions...if you get an unpaid suspension, your career advancement in fed gov is over. As is your ability to move to any other position not purposely put into.
These folks are done in all but name only...
These folks are done in all but name only...
Posted by: Nova Local at July 10, 2025 12:39 PM (tOcjL)
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It's peculiar that Trump almost had his head blown off and the SS is suspending people, six of them.
Why not every single SS that was there?
It's peculiar that Trump almost had his head blown off and the SS is suspending people, six of them.
Why not every single SS that was there?
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (et1vG)
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It had a Ho-Ho in it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (qBdHI)
So did the 2024 election
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (qBdHI)
So did the 2024 election
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (Qr870)
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39 I wonder if the short chubby female Barney Fife that struggled to holster her weapon and looked all panicked… I wonder if she’s one of the 6
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
That would be sexist, hater.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
That would be sexist, hater.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (0Htd1)
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" Matt! The Mattster! The Quinn man! The Big Cheese! Makin' copies! Only one copy for the Matt-man!
Posted by: Butler Secret Service Agent reassigned duties after suspension"
Hah hah....I was just thinking about that skit.
Posted by: Butler Secret Service Agent reassigned duties after suspension"
Hah hah....I was just thinking about that skit.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (fV+MH)
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The idea behind Butler - spin up the local crazy leftist Known Wolves like Crooks while you assign incompetent SS agents and set them up to intentionally leave gaps in the security.
That way both sides - the SS leader and the agents spin up the local leftists can both claim ignorance of the plan. The former just was "incompetent" and the latter where just "too good at being undercover"
That way both sides - the SS leader and the agents spin up the local leftists can both claim ignorance of the plan. The former just was "incompetent" and the latter where just "too good at being undercover"
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (t0Rmr)
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They can always assign them to Hillary, which would be a fate worse than death if other SS agent anecdotes are to be believed.
Posted by: Halfhand at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (ohhLJ)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (UmB+t)
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I think Butler was always considered a protection failure, but before the Biden administration left office, it wasn’t considered a failure by them in the same way as it is now.
Posted by: Advo at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (jO4mz)
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Why not every single SS that was there?
I recall that not every agent that was covering Trump were actually SS but from another agency and given substandard training.
I recall that not every agent that was covering Trump were actually SS but from another agency and given substandard training.
Posted by: NR Pax at July 10, 2025 12:41 PM (lXoJ5)
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Becoming a fed employee must be like becoming an ordained minister."
More than a few feel they rank a bit higher. Godlike is more like it...
More than a few feel they rank a bit higher. Godlike is more like it...
Posted by: man at July 10, 2025 12:41 PM (twEYS)
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7 As I said at the time, we really only have two conclusions to draw here:
1) the secret service is nowhere near as "elite" of a protective detail as is claimed, and it's just been blind luck (and lack of attempts) that have kept (most) presidents from being shot or killed
or
2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
I still cling to my completely amateur theory based on what i've seen the secret service do previously to the lapses at Butler; it is so outside what they've allowed, it had to be deliberate. My pet theory is the advance agent was in on it as was Mayorkas. People who play video games could have secured that perimeter better.
1) the secret service is nowhere near as "elite" of a protective detail as is claimed, and it's just been blind luck (and lack of attempts) that have kept (most) presidents from being shot or killed
or
2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
I still cling to my completely amateur theory based on what i've seen the secret service do previously to the lapses at Butler; it is so outside what they've allowed, it had to be deliberate. My pet theory is the advance agent was in on it as was Mayorkas. People who play video games could have secured that perimeter better.
Posted by: Nelly at July 10, 2025 12:41 PM (cHLus)
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118 Secret Service was more concerned with hiring quotas and pronouns.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (IifOV)
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The woman in charge of SS got out before she could be fired. Good riddance.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (IifOV)
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The woman in charge of SS got out before she could be fired. Good riddance.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 10, 2025 12:41 PM (kYF0p)
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They can always assign them to Hillary, which would be a fate worse than death if other SS agent anecdotes are to be believed.
Posted by: Halfhand
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Oh man, that would have been so perfect for Kerry O'Grady.
They can always assign them to Hillary, which would be a fate worse than death if other SS agent anecdotes are to be believed.
Posted by: Halfhand
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Oh man, that would have been so perfect for Kerry O'Grady.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (UmB+t)
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Maybe surgery in October. Post-surgery may need ileostomy bag, so a new hole to my abdomen would be added if large intestine needs more healing...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Praying for ya!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
Praying for ya!
Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (W/lyH)
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Only in govt work are you "punished" with 10 - 42 days absence without pay but guaranteed return to paid employment for the abject failure of your basic duties resulting in the near absolute failure of your assigned mission.
This is one of the perks that college professors get - the sabbatical.
This is one of the perks that college professors get - the sabbatical.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (t0Rmr)
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Are the Democrats rushing to the defense of these six agents?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (XDtG+)
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Example of the pagers is Mossad is a perfect example. Mossad got into the acquisitions of comms for Hezbollah and skillfully guided them into choosing that particular firm with that particular fake manufacturing, etc.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:32 PM (ctrM5)
Mike Benz passed on the story of the photocopier tech that serviced the photocopiers in the British Prime Minister's office getting turned, same sort of thing
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:32 PM (ctrM5)
Mike Benz passed on the story of the photocopier tech that serviced the photocopiers in the British Prime Minister's office getting turned, same sort of thing
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (p0Ax5)
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> I wonder if the short chubby female Barney Fife that struggled to holster her weapon and looked all panicked… I wonder if she’s one of the 6
Agent FUPA.
The planning and execution of the plan were the biggest problems that day. Unless she was part of the planning, she probably shouldn't be suspended.
I do think she should be put on a probationary exercise, diet, and tactical re-training program. If she can't perform, she should be fired.
Agent FUPA.
The planning and execution of the plan were the biggest problems that day. Unless she was part of the planning, she probably shouldn't be suspended.
I do think she should be put on a probationary exercise, diet, and tactical re-training program. If she can't perform, she should be fired.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2025 12:43 PM (lIio7)
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I think is it a sign of the rot that Dan Bongino got out of the secret service.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 10, 2025 12:43 PM (kYF0p)
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Usually cubicle sabbaticals are paid.
Posted by: The Secret Service at July 10, 2025 12:43 PM (zhBpy)
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Sending incompetent agents to protect Trump while there were Known Wolves trying to kill him is very reminiscent of putting "Ms Shops on the Internet All Shift" and "Mr Nap Time" on Epstein watch the night he was murdered.
Plausible deniability since the schmucks in both cases don't know anything about the plan, but it gives you certitude they aren't going to stop it.
Plausible deniability since the schmucks in both cases don't know anything about the plan, but it gives you certitude they aren't going to stop it.
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2025 12:44 PM (t0Rmr)
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Bring back Jim West and Artemus Gordon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:44 PM (63Dwl)
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These folks are done in all but name only...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Now you've done it, lol. We can't have reasonableness when we are hunting for scalps!!!.
(btw just kidding)
Posted by: Nova Local
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Now you've done it, lol. We can't have reasonableness when we are hunting for scalps!!!.
(btw just kidding)
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:44 PM (ctrM5)
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So w Elon's exit, so went DOGE? Not so much as a popcorn fart of a story of their work since after 6 months of 24/7 coverage. Guess the rubes were impressed enough to shut it down.
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (tivWi)
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You could have picked public schools if you wanted a lot more molesters.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:36 PM (Qr870)
Probably.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:36 PM (Qr870)
Probably.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo...Conspiracy Theorist at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (2yqAv)
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One of things that annoys me about the Butler PA incident is that the SS refuses to provide the name and background of the individual who was in charge of the detail that day. They consistently say Curran was there that day, so all responsibility would fall to him. I see Curran as a figurehead and an administrator. His presence could run interference on an Agent in Charge responsible for the specific protocol and application.
That's the person who would make the strategic calls on the ground. And, that person would have quite a bit of influence on whether certain steps were taken to assure safety of their charge. It is conceivable that a single person in such a position could purposefully ignore all the warnings, and actually enhance the potential for an assassination attempt like the one that occurred.
One could make the conjecture that these suspensions reflect peon agents merely did what they were told instead of doing their jobs...allowing whoever was in charge to run the show in a negative fashion.
10 years ago, I'd chastise myself for coming up with something like this. Pure fiction. Would never happen. Now, I think it's likely.
That's the person who would make the strategic calls on the ground. And, that person would have quite a bit of influence on whether certain steps were taken to assure safety of their charge. It is conceivable that a single person in such a position could purposefully ignore all the warnings, and actually enhance the potential for an assassination attempt like the one that occurred.
One could make the conjecture that these suspensions reflect peon agents merely did what they were told instead of doing their jobs...allowing whoever was in charge to run the show in a negative fashion.
10 years ago, I'd chastise myself for coming up with something like this. Pure fiction. Would never happen. Now, I think it's likely.
Posted by: Orson at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (dIske)
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Example of the pagers is Mossad is a perfect example. Mossad got into the acquisitions of comms for Hezbollah and skillfully guided them into choosing that particular firm with that particular fake manufacturing, etc.
Reminds me of the operation that blew up one of the Soviets big oil pipelines under Reagan...
Reminds me of the operation that blew up one of the Soviets big oil pipelines under Reagan...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (t0Rmr)
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Not paying hookers in Columbia was my first clue the SS had lost it's panache... and skills.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
In addition to being lazy and incompetent, but cheap bastards, who don't pay their whores.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron
In addition to being lazy and incompetent, but cheap bastards, who don't pay their whores.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (0Htd1)
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Hopefully the USSS has a field office in Adak for these six.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (XDtG+)
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Common sense Hoho Control.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (zhBpy)
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As is your ability to move to any other position not purposely put into.
Posted by: Nova Local
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To my amateur eyes, that seems like a pretty big loophole. Endless strings can't be pulled? Lisa Page and Peter Strzok come to mind.
As is your ability to move to any other position not purposely put into.
Posted by: Nova Local
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To my amateur eyes, that seems like a pretty big loophole. Endless strings can't be pulled? Lisa Page and Peter Strzok come to mind.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (UmB+t)
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It's peculiar that Trump almost had his head blown off and the SS is suspending people, six of them.
Why not every single SS that was there?
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (et1vG)
It sounds like they're only going after the low level agents, not the supervisors or anyone with any real power here.
Which is the way of the world.
Why not every single SS that was there?
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 10, 2025 12:40 PM (et1vG)
It sounds like they're only going after the low level agents, not the supervisors or anyone with any real power here.
Which is the way of the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)
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166 So w Elon's exit, so went DOGE? Not so much as a popcorn fart of a story of their work since after 6 months of 24/7 coverage. Guess the rubes were impressed enough to shut it down.
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (tivWi)
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It's not.
Just because the news isn't talking about it, doesn't mean it's not happening.
https://x.com/DOGE
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (tivWi)
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It's not.
Just because the news isn't talking about it, doesn't mean it's not happening.
https://x.com/DOGE
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (GBKbO)
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Everyone’s organization should be so forgiving. One of my bosses complained that I took a two week vacation after five years even though I had accrued five weeks! I can’t imagine being responsible for a life, screwing up in the most egregious way, and still keeping my job. Only a government employee could receive this type of discipline.
Posted by: Unkaren at July 10, 2025 12:46 PM (J4BK5)
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Afternoon.
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2025 12:46 PM (Vqpc5)
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174 It sounds like they're only going after the low level agents, not the supervisors or anyone with any real power here.
Which is the way of the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)
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Heads of the Pittsburgh office aren't low level nobodies.
But, there are implications still that it's a snow job.
I dunno.
Which is the way of the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)
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Heads of the Pittsburgh office aren't low level nobodies.
But, there are implications still that it's a snow job.
I dunno.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)
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Set aside the fact that the Secret Service was trying to get Trump killed.
For years, they have been an embarrassing, undisciplined rabble. They're adept at banging hookers, blowing lines, and cleaning up Lil' Hunty's many messes. But not stopping people from climbing the fence and running into the WH, or anything like that.
If I were Trump, none of these people would be allowed anywhere near me.
For years, they have been an embarrassing, undisciplined rabble. They're adept at banging hookers, blowing lines, and cleaning up Lil' Hunty's many messes. But not stopping people from climbing the fence and running into the WH, or anything like that.
If I were Trump, none of these people would be allowed anywhere near me.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 10, 2025 12:46 PM (BI5O2)
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157 Are the Democrats rushing to the defense of these six agents?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (XDtG+)
Well they already gave them raises and promotions so...
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2025 12:42 PM (XDtG+)
Well they already gave them raises and promotions so...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (xcxpd)
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We are aware of the SS because of its high visibility. The balance of the bureaucracies, and some highly critical (see: State Department), are just as compromised.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (XeU6L)
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Mike Benz passed on the story of the photocopier tech that serviced the photocopiers in the British Prime Minister's office getting turned, same sort of thing
Posted by: Kindltot
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Read that. Way back, I think the CIA did the same to the copier at the Soviet consulate in San Francisco. Paranoia for counterintel types is a job hazard along with sleepless nights.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Read that. Way back, I think the CIA did the same to the copier at the Soviet consulate in San Francisco. Paranoia for counterintel types is a job hazard along with sleepless nights.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)
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So w Elon's exit, so went DOGE? Not so much as a popcorn fart of a story of their work since after 6 months of 24/7 coverage. Guess the rubes were impressed enough to shut it down.
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (tivWi)
There is an X page and all, you could look there.
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (tivWi)
There is an X page and all, you could look there.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (D7oie)
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Not just a last-minute Jill event in PA, Kamala was in Philadelphia for a TownHall, too. Both got much better protection than PDT.
Posted by: EveR at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (rdF17)
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"We're going to focus on the root cause and fix the deficiencies that put us in that situation."
"We're going to focus on the root cause and fix the deficiencies that put us in that situation."
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 01% towards 20% getting better at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (jvJvP)
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Let me guess, the 6 will not include anyone who you and I would find incompetent, but will be every available white male who was within 50 miles of the shooting.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (Da7Vv)
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Thinking about the hookers and blow in Mexico scandal, I can see SS agents pressuring a newbie into joining them so, A: they have a hold over him and B, they can ostracize him if he declines.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (tT6L1)
Exactly the reason for Epstein's island, too. Creating Kompromat.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (tT6L1)
Exactly the reason for Epstein's island, too. Creating Kompromat.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (48oK1)
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I wonder if a federal judge will impose an injunction for their suspensions? Wouldn’t surprise me.
Posted by: Unkaren at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (J4BK5)
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It sounds like they're only going after the low level agents, not the supervisors or anyone with any real power here.
Which is the way of the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)
Because if they admit the supervisors etc are fuckups then the people above them who put them in those positions look like fuckups (which they are) but that cannot be allowed to happen. And so it goes.
Which is the way of the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (uCjyK)
Because if they admit the supervisors etc are fuckups then the people above them who put them in those positions look like fuckups (which they are) but that cannot be allowed to happen. And so it goes.
Posted by: Power without accountability at July 10, 2025 12:48 PM (TbWk/)
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169 Example of the pagers is Mossad is a perfect example. Mossad got into the acquisitions of comms for Hezbollah and skillfully guided them into choosing that particular firm with that particular fake manufacturing, etc.
Reminds me of the operation that blew up one of the Soviets big oil pipelines under Reagan...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (t0Rmr)
Or the Russian pipeline to Europe in the Baltic....
Reminds me of the operation that blew up one of the Soviets big oil pipelines under Reagan...
Posted by: 18-1 at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (t0Rmr)
Or the Russian pipeline to Europe in the Baltic....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at July 10, 2025 12:48 PM (xcxpd)
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153 118 Secret Service was more concerned with hiring quotas and pronouns.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (IifOV)
If that's the root cause, I don't see them fixing that.
Posted by: Frank Barone at July 10, 2025 12:35 PM (IifOV)
If that's the root cause, I don't see them fixing that.
Posted by: Stateless NOT HOMELESS! 01% towards 20% getting better at July 10, 2025 12:48 PM (jvJvP)
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181 We are aware of the SS because of its high visibility. The balance of the bureaucracies, and some highly critical (see: State Department), are just as compromised.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Surely not!!. Sean Hannity tells us always that it is only a few rotten apples while most agents are ham and egger good guys. Sean wouldn't lie, would he?
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Surely not!!. Sean Hannity tells us always that it is only a few rotten apples while most agents are ham and egger good guys. Sean wouldn't lie, would he?
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
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The video of the shooter crawling around on the roof with people standing around staring at him while he lines up his shot is enough evidence to can every one of the bastards that were on duty there that day if you ask me.
Posted by: pawn at July 10, 2025 12:48 PM (QB+5g)
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1) the secret service is nowhere near as "elite" of a protective detail as is claimed, and it's just been blind luck (and lack of attempts) that have kept (most) presidents from being shot or killed
or
2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
A third possibility is their bench is shallow. Maybe they have two or three teams that are really good, but the benchwarmers like agent FUPA are terrible.
It's entirely possible the top brass at SS knew this and were intentionally putting their good teams on Jill and Joe and others, ensuring the benchwarmers would be put on Trump's detail.
or
2) The events of Butler PA were a huge aberration from normal procedures, in which case, it looks like the secret service was trying to get Trump killed.
Both scenarios have some pretty huge implications.
A third possibility is their bench is shallow. Maybe they have two or three teams that are really good, but the benchwarmers like agent FUPA are terrible.
It's entirely possible the top brass at SS knew this and were intentionally putting their good teams on Jill and Joe and others, ensuring the benchwarmers would be put on Trump's detail.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2025 12:49 PM (lIio7)
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>>Why not every single SS that was there?
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Because you don't fire the defensive line because the offense failed to score a touchdown. In fact, I think one of the male SS agents who prominently appears in the iconic fist-pump photo was elevated to Trump's personal detail at Trump's request.
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Because you don't fire the defensive line because the offense failed to score a touchdown. In fact, I think one of the male SS agents who prominently appears in the iconic fist-pump photo was elevated to Trump's personal detail at Trump's request.
Posted by: Frasier Crane at July 10, 2025 12:49 PM (bNf8H)
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VOTE VANCE!
Posted by: Sid at July 10, 2025 12:49 PM (ukeFl)
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That Jill Biden event in the Pittsburgh area was hastily added at the last moment. I believe it was done intentionally to allow her to have experienced agents, leading Trump to be covered by the fat Keystone Kops. It being the ONLY rally covered by CNN up to that point was no coincidence, either.
Posted by: Conspiracy To Murder at July 10, 2025 12:49 PM (G5+As)
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They're not being fired, but when they return to work, they will have "diminished operational responsibilities."
Sorting and counting paperclips in Barrow, Alaska.
Sorting and counting paperclips in Barrow, Alaska.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 12:49 PM (e2MJJ)
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Read that. Way back, I think the CIA did the same to the copier at the Soviet consulate in San Francisco. Paranoia for counterintel types is a job hazard along with sleepless nights.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)
Best reason to send your secretarial staff to Copier repair school EVAR!
If this is not being done, then I have no faith in anyone, and we are all doomed for the timidity and entitled negligence of our so called elites.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:47 PM (ctrM5)
Best reason to send your secretarial staff to Copier repair school EVAR!
If this is not being done, then I have no faith in anyone, and we are all doomed for the timidity and entitled negligence of our so called elites.
Posted by: Kindltot at July 10, 2025 12:49 PM (D7oie)
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Heh...Sid thinks that because someone said Garcia wasn't MS-13, then he's a US citizen.
God, Sid.
You're fucking stupid.
I laugh at you for being so stupid. Just go and vote for Vance.
God, Sid.
You're fucking stupid.
I laugh at you for being so stupid. Just go and vote for Vance.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (GBKbO)
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One of these priests taught music in a.high school I attended. When his offenses were found out, he was just shuffled off to nowhere job. Not a proper punishment.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (Fju+s)
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> The woman in charge of SS got out before she could be fired. Good riddance.
That was the woman who made the sloped roof comment, right?
That was the woman who made the sloped roof comment, right?
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (lIio7)
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"Operational failure" = "Mistakes were made."
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (eD91D)
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End Wokeness
@EndWokeness
Rep. Jamsime Crockett:
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
@EndWokeness
Rep. Jamsime Crockett:
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (NpAcC)
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There is also the idea that Trump knew when he stood up he might be killed. He would have gone down yelling "Fight Fight Fight", his message to us unequivocal, and unable to be parsed and dissected and twisted by those who would enjoy doing that for their own ends and as a black mark on his legacy.
"...Well you see after January 6, Trump was moderating in his later years, really wanted lots of compromise and amnesty and cooperation with Democrats, and such despite their attacks. Let's do it for Donald. He would have wanted it that way."
No peckerwood faggotface he wanted - expected - us to FIGHT. He was clear. Watch the tape.
"...Well you see after January 6, Trump was moderating in his later years, really wanted lots of compromise and amnesty and cooperation with Democrats, and such despite their attacks. Let's do it for Donald. He would have wanted it that way."
No peckerwood faggotface he wanted - expected - us to FIGHT. He was clear. Watch the tape.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (Qr870)
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Or the Russian pipeline to Europe in the Baltic....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Yes. Compromised gas line compressor if I remember the details correctly. Something similar was done with the attacks on the Iranian centrifuges with Stuxnet. Spun out of control from control system compromise.
Operation Uranium Ship is another such.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Yes. Compromised gas line compressor if I remember the details correctly. Something similar was done with the attacks on the Iranian centrifuges with Stuxnet. Spun out of control from control system compromise.
Operation Uranium Ship is another such.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
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Is one of the suspended agents of the female persuasion? Because I remember a chubby gal who struggled to holster her sidearm.
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 12:51 PM (AOsQT)
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Jerusalem Post: Reporter's Notebook: 'Post' meets with top Hebron sheikh who wants to pull out of PA
Joining the Abraham Accords could be a game changer, but it has opposition from both the Israeli and Palestinian sides and may be torpedoed globally.
https://tinyurl.com/9xz4czjc
Very interesting. Some sheiks want to kick the PA out and reorganize the West Bank into a bunch of Emirates. IDF and Shin Bet's attitudes are "better the devil you know." But Israel is the Strong Horse here and Arabs will ultimately respect that. I dunno, man, the notion of "Palestinian Statehood" has been rotten from the start. Time to say Fuck It and cast their fortunes to the wind?
Joining the Abraham Accords could be a game changer, but it has opposition from both the Israeli and Palestinian sides and may be torpedoed globally.
https://tinyurl.com/9xz4czjc
Very interesting. Some sheiks want to kick the PA out and reorganize the West Bank into a bunch of Emirates. IDF and Shin Bet's attitudes are "better the devil you know." But Israel is the Strong Horse here and Arabs will ultimately respect that. I dunno, man, the notion of "Palestinian Statehood" has been rotten from the start. Time to say Fuck It and cast their fortunes to the wind?
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2025 12:51 PM (Vqpc5)
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Tunnel Collapse in LA.
https://tinyurl.com/569jjcbp
You know, we have been digging tunnels for several millennia. If you have a collapse, it is incompetence.
https://tinyurl.com/569jjcbp
You know, we have been digging tunnels for several millennia. If you have a collapse, it is incompetence.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:51 PM (jc0TO)
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Yes I posted the obvious after 137 comments
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (ciYHQ)
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Rep. Jamsime Crockett:
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (NpAcC)
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Risible and stupid. Maybe Jasmine should try standup comedy?
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (NpAcC)
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Risible and stupid. Maybe Jasmine should try standup comedy?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)
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I think is it a sign of the rot that Dan Bongino got out of the secret service.
Posted by: JM
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I have a friend who is ex-SS. Came to work for us in, of all things, the commercial HVAC business. I never asked him why he quit.
From time at the range together, I can tell you that he was excellent shot.
Posted by: JM
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I have a friend who is ex-SS. Came to work for us in, of all things, the commercial HVAC business. I never asked him why he quit.
From time at the range together, I can tell you that he was excellent shot.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (XeU6L)
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" Yes I posted the obvious after 137 comments
Posted by: Fenrisulven"
We all do it. U aren't special.
Posted by: Fenrisulven"
We all do it. U aren't special.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:53 PM (fV+MH)
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>"diminished operational responsibilities."
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organizing the Holiday Potluck
picking up the Director's dry cleaning
office supplies inventory
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organizing the Holiday Potluck
picking up the Director's dry cleaning
office supplies inventory
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 12:53 PM (AOsQT)
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Jasmine Crockett is what the Left thinks of black people.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:53 PM (Qr870)
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You know, we have been digging tunnels for several millennia. If you have a collapse, it is incompetence.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:51 PM (jc0TO)
That or they disturbed the lair of the graboids
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:51 PM (jc0TO)
That or they disturbed the lair of the graboids
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (eb5mD)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)
It should never have been possible for some guy in Pittsburgh to fuck up that badly, if that's truly what happened.
If the SS is truly as incompetent as they were that day in PA, and the only reason all of our presidential candidates haven't been assassinated is due to blind luck and the fact that there aren't that many potential assassins living amongst us, then the entire organization needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
We're supposed to just accept that it's normal practice that blindingly obvious places for snipers to hide aren't covered, SS agents don't go on sloped roofs, SS and local police aren't able to communicate with each other, there is no coordination between and amongst agencies, SS agents need to call tech support to use their drones, and local cops (who have the manpower) are told to watch the traffic or sit in an office instead of covering the crowd, etc. etc.?
What if an actual foreign power wanted to assassinate our leaders? Seems like it would be incredibly easy to do.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:46 PM (GBKbO)
It should never have been possible for some guy in Pittsburgh to fuck up that badly, if that's truly what happened.
If the SS is truly as incompetent as they were that day in PA, and the only reason all of our presidential candidates haven't been assassinated is due to blind luck and the fact that there aren't that many potential assassins living amongst us, then the entire organization needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
We're supposed to just accept that it's normal practice that blindingly obvious places for snipers to hide aren't covered, SS agents don't go on sloped roofs, SS and local police aren't able to communicate with each other, there is no coordination between and amongst agencies, SS agents need to call tech support to use their drones, and local cops (who have the manpower) are told to watch the traffic or sit in an office instead of covering the crowd, etc. etc.?
What if an actual foreign power wanted to assassinate our leaders? Seems like it would be incredibly easy to do.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)
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Was the LA tunnel collapae high speed rail?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (zhBpy)
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Surely not!!. Sean Hannity tells us always that it is only a few rotten apples while most agents are ham and egger good guys. Sean wouldn't lie, would he?
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
This is a conservative chestnut? Axiom? Aphorism? Dogma? about law enforcement in general that needs to die and have critical thinking take its place. Tired of it.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:48 PM (ctrM5)
This is a conservative chestnut? Axiom? Aphorism? Dogma? about law enforcement in general that needs to die and have critical thinking take its place. Tired of it.
Posted by: Distrust government but not their gunmen? at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (TbWk/)
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Rep. Jamsime Crockett:
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (NpAcC)
Risible and stupid. Maybe Jasmine should try standup comedy?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)
I'd say she should flip burgers at McDonald's but it would probably fall on the floor.
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (NpAcC)
Risible and stupid. Maybe Jasmine should try standup comedy?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)
I'd say she should flip burgers at McDonald's but it would probably fall on the floor.
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (Vqpc5)
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (fV+MH)
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In addition to being lazy and incompetent, but cheap bastards, who don't pay their whores.
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (0Htd1)
Secret service Jon. "Ya know. Now that I got a nut I feel like it wasn't what I was expecting. In fact that was not even worthy of payment. Zzzzzzzzz."
Whore. "Moan..."
Whores should know better than to try and collect after the deed.
Don't they have pimps to educate them on such things?
Posted by: nerdygirl at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (0Htd1)
Secret service Jon. "Ya know. Now that I got a nut I feel like it wasn't what I was expecting. In fact that was not even worthy of payment. Zzzzzzzzz."
Whore. "Moan..."
Whores should know better than to try and collect after the deed.
Don't they have pimps to educate them on such things?
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (SJnNf)
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You know, we have been digging tunnels for several millennia. If you have a collapse, it is incompetence.
Posted by: toby928
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Prima facie evidence that Trump is destroying the country.
You know, we have been digging tunnels for several millennia. If you have a collapse, it is incompetence.
Posted by: toby928
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Prima facie evidence that Trump is destroying the country.
Posted by: Dems at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (XeU6L)
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Rep. Jamsime Crockett:
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
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Yes, his supporters are the ones trying to kill him...because they support him. Makes sense to me!
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
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Yes, his supporters are the ones trying to kill him...because they support him. Makes sense to me!
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (qBdHI)
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220 Rep. Jamsime Crockett:
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (NpAcC)
Risible and stupid. Maybe Jasmine should try standup comedy?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)
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She has seen to poll of her beating Allred, and she's reportedly considering a run for the Senate.
Please have her do it.
She'll raise so much money and lose by so much. It'll be hilarious.
"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
https://tinyurl.com/42xfnvsn
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:50 PM (NpAcC)
Risible and stupid. Maybe Jasmine should try standup comedy?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)
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She has seen to poll of her beating Allred, and she's reportedly considering a run for the Senate.
Please have her do it.
She'll raise so much money and lose by so much. It'll be hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
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Just because the news isn't talking about it, doesn't mean it's not happening.
https://x.com/DOGE
******
"...news isn't talking about it..." means it's doing nearly nothing of consequence. It was wall to wall sky is falling tearing thru the first layer of corruption. We've all seen how these things go in DC. If the Dems or GOPe aren't screeching at some level it's not scratching the surface. I don't have an X account, probably most people don't so I'll wait until conservative-adjacent media seems something important.
https://x.com/DOGE
******
"...news isn't talking about it..." means it's doing nearly nothing of consequence. It was wall to wall sky is falling tearing thru the first layer of corruption. We've all seen how these things go in DC. If the Dems or GOPe aren't screeching at some level it's not scratching the surface. I don't have an X account, probably most people don't so I'll wait until conservative-adjacent media seems something important.
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (tivWi)
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"VioIence is all coming from MAGA, not the left. Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
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So you won't mind if we just take the Left's guns away. Since you obviously don't need them.
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So you won't mind if we just take the Left's guns away. Since you obviously don't need them.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (Qr870)
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Best reason to send your secretarial staff to Copier repair school EVAR!
If this is not being done, then I have no faith in anyone, and we are all doomed for the timidity and entitled negligence of our so called elites.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Bible says it best--Put not your trust in princes.
Franklin's aphorism--two can keep a secret if one is dead also comes to mind.
So, you want a less crooked and deceitful state, then you minimize its wealth, power, and reach including that of its foremost citizens. Given the US nation, that means governance as much as possible at the lowest possible level.
If this is not being done, then I have no faith in anyone, and we are all doomed for the timidity and entitled negligence of our so called elites.
Posted by: Kindltot
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Bible says it best--Put not your trust in princes.
Franklin's aphorism--two can keep a secret if one is dead also comes to mind.
So, you want a less crooked and deceitful state, then you minimize its wealth, power, and reach including that of its foremost citizens. Given the US nation, that means governance as much as possible at the lowest possible level.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (ctrM5)
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I'd say she should flip burgers at McDonald's but it would probably fall on the floor.
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (Vqpc5)
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I read somewhere that there's always leafblowing.
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (Vqpc5)
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I read somewhere that there's always leafblowing.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (4tvN6)
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Some sheiks want to kick the PA out and reorganize the West Bank into a bunch of Emirates.
Posted by: Robert
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I imagine the PA could actually be bought off very easily by some sheikhs. Retire to beautiful Dubai, no need to hustle for the luxury anymore, just enjoy our generosity and the favors of foreign prostitutes who are very easy to sponsor for a weekend.
Some sheiks want to kick the PA out and reorganize the West Bank into a bunch of Emirates.
Posted by: Robert
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I imagine the PA could actually be bought off very easily by some sheikhs. Retire to beautiful Dubai, no need to hustle for the luxury anymore, just enjoy our generosity and the favors of foreign prostitutes who are very easy to sponsor for a weekend.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (UmB+t)
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Names would be a nice touch, that would teach them a lesson.
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (+qU29)
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Maybe they should hire the Boring Company.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (zhBpy)
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226 "...news isn't talking about it..." means it's doing nearly nothing of consequence. It was wall to wall sky is falling tearing thru the first layer of corruption. We've all seen how these things go in DC. If the Dems or GOPe aren't screeching at some level it's not scratching the surface. I don't have an X account, probably most people don't so I'll wait until conservative-adjacent media seems something important.
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (tivWi)
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"It's only happening if the left is screaming about it, and I refuse primary sources."
Posted by: LaGrange at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (tivWi)
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"It's only happening if the left is screaming about it, and I refuse primary sources."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
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We knew the Secret Service didn't meet with local LEOs, despite the obvious need to do so.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (w6EFb)
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Was the LA tunnel collapae high speed rail?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM
Six miles of sewer apparently.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM
Six miles of sewer apparently.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
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How's the lack of violence in all the lefty cities doing then, Crockashit?
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (Qr870)
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The agents will not be fired, but upon return to work, they will be placed in roles with diminished operational responsibility.
1. Lugging the dreaded water jug replacement and refilling the office water cooler. Written up if you spill.
2. Taking up all janitorial duties including scrubbing toilets at HQ.
3. Walking and feeding all employees pets at 'Bring your Pet to Work Day'.
That's just for starters.
1. Lugging the dreaded water jug replacement and refilling the office water cooler. Written up if you spill.
2. Taking up all janitorial duties including scrubbing toilets at HQ.
3. Walking and feeding all employees pets at 'Bring your Pet to Work Day'.
That's just for starters.
Posted by: Cheri at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (oiNtH)
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Rep. Jasmine Crockett, known for her outspoken style, surprisingly tops hypothetical primary field, putting pressure on Allred, O'Rourke, and Castro as Democrats eye John Cornyn's seat.
Rep. Jasmine Crockett, known for her outspoken style, surprisingly tops hypothetical primary field, putting pressure on Allred, O'Rourke, and Castro as Democrats eye John Cornyn's seat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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She has seen to poll of her beating Allred, and she's reportedly considering a run for the Senate.
Please have her do it.
She'll raise so much money and lose by so much. It'll be hilarious.
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TJM has the right of political analysis: Treat it as a review of bad acting, appalling scripts, deviant sexuality, and rank idiocy and deceit.
Just like Hollywood.
Please have her do it.
She'll raise so much money and lose by so much. It'll be hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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TJM has the right of political analysis: Treat it as a review of bad acting, appalling scripts, deviant sexuality, and rank idiocy and deceit.
Just like Hollywood.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (ctrM5)
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Risible and stupid. Maybe Jasmine should try standup comedy?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)
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She hasn't even said she's running for the Texas Democrat senate seat, but she's ahead of all the Democrat candidates in the polls.
Let that sink in.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:52 PM (tT6L1)
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She hasn't even said she's running for the Texas Democrat senate seat, but she's ahead of all the Democrat candidates in the polls.
Let that sink in.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Jasmine Ratchet, her eyelashes dragging at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (TbWk/)
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I still cling to my completely amateur theory based on what i've seen the secret service do previously to the lapses at Butler; it is so outside what they've allowed, it had to be deliberate. My pet theory is the advance agent was in on it as was Mayorkas. People who play video games could have secured that perimeter better.
Posted by: Nelly at July 10, 2025 12:41 PM
I'm a housewife and I would have had someone on that roof and I would have tested the communications, I would have made sure all agencies could speak with one another. I know nothing but I would have sussed those two issues out.
I still cling to my completely amateur theory based on what i've seen the secret service do previously to the lapses at Butler; it is so outside what they've allowed, it had to be deliberate. My pet theory is the advance agent was in on it as was Mayorkas. People who play video games could have secured that perimeter better.
Posted by: Nelly at July 10, 2025 12:41 PM
I'm a housewife and I would have had someone on that roof and I would have tested the communications, I would have made sure all agencies could speak with one another. I know nothing but I would have sussed those two issues out.
Posted by: CaliGirl at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (77W69)
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Rep. Jasmine Crockett, known for her outspoken style, surprisingly tops hypothetical primary field, putting pressure on Allred, O'Rourke, and Castro as Democrats eye John Cornyn's seat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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In an era where Democrats have raised the profile of obnoxious black women and outright lost the Hispanic male vote while splitting the Hispanic female vote, they're gonna get all excited about a Crockett senate run in...
Texas.
Rep. Jasmine Crockett, known for her outspoken style, surprisingly tops hypothetical primary field, putting pressure on Allred, O'Rourke, and Castro as Democrats eye John Cornyn's seat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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In an era where Democrats have raised the profile of obnoxious black women and outright lost the Hispanic male vote while splitting the Hispanic female vote, they're gonna get all excited about a Crockett senate run in...
Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (GBKbO)
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You know, we have been digging tunnels for several millennia. If you have a collapse, it is incompetence.
Posted by: toby928
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Prima facie evidence that Trump is destroying the country.
Posted by: Dems at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM
A Day without Illegals.
Posted by: toby928
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Prima facie evidence that Trump is destroying the country.
Posted by: Dems at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM
A Day without Illegals.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (jc0TO)
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Hide your children and wallets: Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton Global Foundation in the ground in Texas.
The Patriot Front is apparently going to be in Texas too.
The Patriot Front is apparently going to be in Texas too.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (TGPs7)
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Rep. Jasmine Crockett, known for her outspoken style, surprisingly tops hypothetical primary field, putting pressure on Allred, O'Rourke, and Castro as Democrats eye John Cornyn's seat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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I laugh because she'll scream racism and sexism at every single one of the other Democrats in the field. They'll bow out and watch Crockett get creamed in the general.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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I laugh because she'll scream racism and sexism at every single one of the other Democrats in the field. They'll bow out and watch Crockett get creamed in the general.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (tT6L1)
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I wonder if the short chubby female Barney Fife that struggled to holster her weapon and looked all panicked… I wonder if she’s one of the 6
Actually she was the agent in charge of the site... Since standard government procedure, known to anyone who has been in the military, is: "Shit runs down hill", the chance of her being suspended is about as great as my chances (at 77) of dating Sydney Sweeney this week end.
Actually she was the agent in charge of the site... Since standard government procedure, known to anyone who has been in the military, is: "Shit runs down hill", the chance of her being suspended is about as great as my chances (at 77) of dating Sydney Sweeney this week end.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (Da7Vv)
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Hopefully the USSS has a field office in Adak for these six.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (XDtG+)
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
When I was in Sinop, feeling sorry for myself, I always cheered up by knowing I wasn't in Adak.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 10, 2025 12:45 PM (XDtG+)
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
When I was in Sinop, feeling sorry for myself, I always cheered up by knowing I wasn't in Adak.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (W/lyH)
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Dat maff ain't maffin!
*z-snap and head bobble*
Posted by: Jasmine Ratchet, her eyelashes dragging at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (TbWk/)
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/pages back and forth through dictionary for white foke
*z-snap and head bobble*
Posted by: Jasmine Ratchet, her eyelashes dragging at July 10, 2025 12:57 PM (TbWk/)
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/pages back and forth through dictionary for white foke
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 12:59 PM (4tvN6)
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> Was the LA tunnel collapae high speed rail?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM
Six miles of sewer apparently.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
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There are not enough miles of sewer on the planet to deal with the amount of shit in L.A.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM
Six miles of sewer apparently.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
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There are not enough miles of sewer on the planet to deal with the amount of shit in L.A.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2025 12:59 PM (Q4IgG)
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Was the LA tunnel collapae high speed rail?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (zhBpy)
Apparently was to be a conduit for wastewater. Story poorly written. 700 feet underground? That would put it way below sea level. Doubtful.
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (zhBpy)
Apparently was to be a conduit for wastewater. Story poorly written. 700 feet underground? That would put it way below sea level. Doubtful.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2025 12:59 PM (48oK1)
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Trump down to his lowest favorability rating, - 2, since April...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (TGPs7)
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She'll raise so much money and lose by so much. It'll be hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Seems to me it's a way for her to make money.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Seems to me it's a way for her to make money.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (/Uw4P)
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Hide your children and wallets: Chelsea Clinton and the Clinton Global Foundation in the ground in Texas.
The Patriot Front is apparently going to be in Texas too.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (TGPs7)
Put them to work filling sand bags...in El Paso.
The Patriot Front is apparently going to be in Texas too.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (TGPs7)
Put them to work filling sand bags...in El Paso.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (W/lyH)
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Six miles of sewer apparently.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
That's a shitty place to be stuck in a collapsed tunnel.
I'll be here all night, folks, tip your waiters.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
That's a shitty place to be stuck in a collapsed tunnel.
I'll be here all night, folks, tip your waiters.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (uCjyK)
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700 miles underground
Posted by: Bombadil at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (MX0bI)
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253 She'll raise so much money and lose by so much. It'll be hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Seems to me it's a way for her to make money.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (/Uw4P)
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Well, she is doing the politics by celebrity thing.
It's not like she's in it for the legislative language.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Seems to me it's a way for her to make money.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (/Uw4P)
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Well, she is doing the politics by celebrity thing.
It's not like she's in it for the legislative language.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
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I think DOGE got so much press because Elon was involved, and very visible- how many times did we see him in Oval Office photos with the Preznit?
But now he has left DOGE- turned on it, you might say- and moved on
so the press did, too
But now he has left DOGE- turned on it, you might say- and moved on
so the press did, too
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (AOsQT)
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Is one of the suspended agents of the female persuasion? Because I remember a chubby gal who struggled to holster her sidearm.
Posted by: Don Black
I won't bang on her for that. I've had problems in high stress situations where we just took down a convict that was fighting and I'm reaching back for cuff and they're not where they're supposed to be and I'm trying to hold an arm with one hand and find cuffs with another.
I will bang on her for being so short she couldn't cover her principal.
Posted by: Don Black
I won't bang on her for that. I've had problems in high stress situations where we just took down a convict that was fighting and I'm reaching back for cuff and they're not where they're supposed to be and I'm trying to hold an arm with one hand and find cuffs with another.
I will bang on her for being so short she couldn't cover her principal.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (e2MJJ)
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"Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
How does someone say such a thing? Isn't there some mechanism in the brain that says "Oh hell no"
How does someone say such a thing? Isn't there some mechanism in the brain that says "Oh hell no"
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (ciYHQ)
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143 It had a Ho-Ho in it.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (qBdHI)
So did the 2024 election
Posted by: ...
Hey! Don't put us in the same category with that imbecile.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 10, 2025 12:38 PM (qBdHI)
So did the 2024 election
Posted by: ...
Hey! Don't put us in the same category with that imbecile.
Posted by: Street Ho at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (0Htd1)
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It is virtually impossible to fire anyone in law enforcement on any level.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (Pce4l)
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Apparently was to be a conduit for wastewater. Story poorly written. 700 feet underground? That would put it way below sea level. Doubtful.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2025 12:59 PM (48oK1)
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Yeah, have to qualify as "doubtful" because, well, CA.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 10, 2025 12:59 PM (48oK1)
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Yeah, have to qualify as "doubtful" because, well, CA.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (tT6L1)
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This is a conservative chestnut? Axiom? Aphorism? Dogma? about law enforcement in general that needs to die and have critical thinking take its place. Tired of it.
Posted by: Distrust government but not their gunmen?
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One of the central problems of governance is how do you ensure the fidelity of agents acting on your behalf to take your best interests at heart. Same for individuals as it is for government, business, or even the church.
Effective sanctions requires something like the Mafia Omerta and made men. That is the agent must be personally responsible even unto death, jail, and financial ruin, for failure and non- compliance with directives from the principle.
Posted by: Distrust government but not their gunmen?
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One of the central problems of governance is how do you ensure the fidelity of agents acting on your behalf to take your best interests at heart. Same for individuals as it is for government, business, or even the church.
Effective sanctions requires something like the Mafia Omerta and made men. That is the agent must be personally responsible even unto death, jail, and financial ruin, for failure and non- compliance with directives from the principle.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (ctrM5)
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260 "Even the 2 who tried kiIIing Trump are Trump supporters."
How does someone say such a thing? Isn't there some mechanism in the brain that says "Oh hell no"
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (ciYHQ)
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"Crooks' parents had MAGA signs in their front yard!"
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How does someone say such a thing? Isn't there some mechanism in the brain that says "Oh hell no"
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (ciYHQ)
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"Crooks' parents had MAGA signs in their front yard!"
-added to the firmware within 24 hours and never removed
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
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You load sixteen tons and what do you get?
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (fV+MH)
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How does someone say such a thing? Isn't there some mechanism in the brain that says "Oh hell no"
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (ciYHQ)
She just wants to watch you deny it.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (ciYHQ)
She just wants to watch you deny it.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:02 PM (Qr870)
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Well, she is doing the politics by celebrity thing.
It's not like she's in it for the legislative language.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah.
Also thinking she will be allowed to run and lose bigly so the Dems have a talking point about how racist and sexist everyone is.
It's not like she's in it for the legislative language.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah.
Also thinking she will be allowed to run and lose bigly so the Dems have a talking point about how racist and sexist everyone is.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:02 PM (/Uw4P)
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She'll raise so much money and lose by so much. It'll be hilarious.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Seems to me it's a way for her to make money.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM
Her husband the campaign manager, her brother doing advertising, and her cousins getting paid to organize the get-out-the-vote all agree that it's no grift.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 12:55 PM (GBKbO)
Seems to me it's a way for her to make money.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM
Her husband the campaign manager, her brother doing advertising, and her cousins getting paid to organize the get-out-the-vote all agree that it's no grift.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 01:02 PM (jc0TO)
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268 Yeah.
Also thinking she will be allowed to run and lose bigly so the Dems have a talking point about how racist and sexist everyone is.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:02 PM (/Uw4P)
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Oh, it'll all just be about the money.
Dumb fucks in Hollywood and Manhattan will shove money at her like she's Beto.
Also thinking she will be allowed to run and lose bigly so the Dems have a talking point about how racist and sexist everyone is.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:02 PM (/Uw4P)
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Oh, it'll all just be about the money.
Dumb fucks in Hollywood and Manhattan will shove money at her like she's Beto.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Six miles of sewer apparently.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
Shit! What are they going to do with it now?
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
Shit! What are they going to do with it now?
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (SJnNf)
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Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (tT6L1)
Or what you said earlier.
I should read before I post.
Or what you said earlier.
I should read before I post.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (/Uw4P)
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"Crooks' parents had MAGA signs in their front yard!"
-added to the firmware within 24 hours and never removed
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, also, why have we not heard anything more about Crooks and his family?
All we know about him is that he was a young kid with no social media presence who was once in a blackrock commercial then one day decided to kill Trump.
And we know next to nothing about his family.
Seems odd.
-added to the firmware within 24 hours and never removed
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, also, why have we not heard anything more about Crooks and his family?
All we know about him is that he was a young kid with no social media presence who was once in a blackrock commercial then one day decided to kill Trump.
And we know next to nothing about his family.
Seems odd.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (uCjyK)
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I can't wait for the "I'm bowing out because Jasmine is the most qualified candidate" endorsement from one of her opponents.
Comedy gold.
Comedy gold.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 01:04 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:04 PM (ctrM5)
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274 I can't wait for the "I'm bowing out because Jasmine is the most qualified candidate" endorsement from one of her opponents.
Comedy gold.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 01:04 PM (tT6L1)
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I want Allred to fight dirty to keep his spot. He ran against Cruz.
He's now gonna win against Paxton whom everyone tells him is a much easier target.
It's his turn!
Comedy gold.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 01:04 PM (tT6L1)
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I want Allred to fight dirty to keep his spot. He ran against Cruz.
He's now gonna win against Paxton whom everyone tells him is a much easier target.
It's his turn!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:04 PM (GBKbO)
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I imagine the PA could actually be bought off very easily by some sheikhs. Retire to beautiful Dubai, no need to hustle for the luxury anymore, just enjoy our generosity and the favors of foreign prostitutes who are very easy to sponsor for a weekend.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (UmB+t)
They wouldn't even have to do that. The Sheik quoted in the piece says a large part of OA security are members of his clan. They could take control with minimal bloodshed.
Personally, while I understand the hesitation, I think it's an idea worth considering. We know the PA to be corrupt and parasitic and the Sheiks see the time is ripe to get rid of it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (UmB+t)
They wouldn't even have to do that. The Sheik quoted in the piece says a large part of OA security are members of his clan. They could take control with minimal bloodshed.
Personally, while I understand the hesitation, I think it's an idea worth considering. We know the PA to be corrupt and parasitic and the Sheiks see the time is ripe to get rid of it.
Posted by: Robert at July 10, 2025 01:04 PM (HORD1)
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273 "Crooks' parents had MAGA signs in their front yard!"
-added to the firmware within 24 hours and never removed
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, also, why have we not heard anything more about Crooks and his family?
All we know about him is that he was a young kid with no social media presence who was once in a blackrock commercial then one day decided to kill Trump.
And we know next to nothing about his family.
Seems odd.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (uCjyK)
"Remember me?" - Guy who killed a Minnesota state senator and then immediately disappeared
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:01 PM (GBKbO)
Yeah, also, why have we not heard anything more about Crooks and his family?
All we know about him is that he was a young kid with no social media presence who was once in a blackrock commercial then one day decided to kill Trump.
And we know next to nothing about his family.
Seems odd.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (uCjyK)
"Remember me?" - Guy who killed a Minnesota state senator and then immediately disappeared
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (j/vBG)
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271 Six miles of sewer apparently.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
Shit! What are they going to do with it now?
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (SJnNf)
It's anybody's guess.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (jc0TO)
Shit! What are they going to do with it now?
Posted by: Reforger at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (SJnNf)
It's anybody's guess.
Posted by: Total crapshoot at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (TbWk/)
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but when they return to work, they will have "diminished operational responsibilities."
Somebody needs to fight counterfeiting in Nome, after all.
Somebody needs to fight counterfeiting in Nome, after all.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (xTIDn)
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (AOsQT)
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I should read before I post.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (/Uw4P)
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You're not new here.
I should read before I post.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:03 PM (/Uw4P)
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You're not new here.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (tT6L1)
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It's sad that LA is turning into a shithole failure.
That place was beautiful.
But it's what they wanted.
That place was beautiful.
But it's what they wanted.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (fV+MH)
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@11
>>Don't coddle them! Fire them!
This is step 1, the final step will be firing them in about 3 months time.
>>Don't coddle them! Fire them!
This is step 1, the final step will be firing them in about 3 months time.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (XV/Pl)
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As a resident of Texas I could only wish Jasmine Crockett wins the Dem nomination for that senate seat. Because she’d have ZERO chance of winning…. Collin Allred can get to 45% probably; she’d be at 40% or worse…. It would be hilarious and continual entertainment
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (5MZNC)
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We haven't seen the ' Patriot Front ' since beginning of the year
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (+qU29)
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When will one of the legions of professional journalists uncover the names of the six and inform the public? Any hour now, I'm sure. I'll bet Fapper is working hard to give us serfs the dope, ASAP!
Ha! I denounce myself.
Ha! I denounce myself.
Posted by: Gref at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (aBgBM)
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285 As a resident of Texas I could only wish Jasmine Crockett wins the Dem nomination for that senate seat. Because she’d have ZERO chance of winning…. Collin Allred can get to 45% probably; she’d be at 40% or worse…. It would be hilarious and continual entertainment
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (5MZNC)
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AWFLs in Houston will demand her.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (5MZNC)
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AWFLs in Houston will demand her.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (GBKbO)
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Either everything from Epstein was destroyed or they're lying. And he should know:
https://tinyurl.com/ye3ynka8
https://tinyurl.com/ye3ynka8
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (4tvN6)
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I'm a housewife and I would have had someone on that roof and I would have tested the communications, I would have made sure all agencies could speak with one another. I know nothing but I would have sussed those two issues out.
Posted by: CaliGirl
If I ran the SS, the motto would be, "We Own The High Ground".
Every roof would be covered. We would have enough agents or, "I'm sorry Mr. President, you can't go out there. We can't get enough agents to secure the area".
Suddenly the government is concerned about spending money? GTFOOH.
Posted by: CaliGirl
If I ran the SS, the motto would be, "We Own The High Ground".
Every roof would be covered. We would have enough agents or, "I'm sorry Mr. President, you can't go out there. We can't get enough agents to secure the area".
Suddenly the government is concerned about spending money? GTFOOH.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (e2MJJ)
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246 Rep. Jasmine Crockett, known for her outspoken style, surprisingly tops hypothetical primary field, putting pressure on Allred, O'Rourke, and Castro as Democrats eye John Cornyn's seat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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I laugh because she'll scream racism and sexism at every single one of the other Democrats in the field. They'll bow out and watch Crockett get creamed in the general.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (tT6L1)
It's the same effect as Zohran Mamdami becoming popular in NYC. We sit here and wonder "wow, if the Dems get some moderate candidates, they might make a run for things!" While the Dem base is going after the most radical fire breathing communist candidates they can find.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 10, 2025 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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I laugh because she'll scream racism and sexism at every single one of the other Democrats in the field. They'll bow out and watch Crockett get creamed in the general.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 12:58 PM (tT6L1)
It's the same effect as Zohran Mamdami becoming popular in NYC. We sit here and wonder "wow, if the Dems get some moderate candidates, they might make a run for things!" While the Dem base is going after the most radical fire breathing communist candidates they can find.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK8)
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Yeah, also, why have we not heard anything more about Crooks and his family?
All we know about him is that he was a young kid with no social media presence who was once in a blackrock commercial then one day decided to kill Trump.
And we know next to nothing about his family.
Seems odd.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Wheels within Wheels. So you get Schrodinger's assassin paradox: conspiracy or nutjob. Seems like that happens with every assassination or attempted one.
All we know about him is that he was a young kid with no social media presence who was once in a blackrock commercial then one day decided to kill Trump.
And we know next to nothing about his family.
Seems odd.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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Wheels within Wheels. So you get Schrodinger's assassin paradox: conspiracy or nutjob. Seems like that happens with every assassination or attempted one.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)
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What's Robert Francis O'Rourke up to these days?
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (kTd/k)
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291 It's the same effect as Zohran Mamdami becoming popular in NYC. We sit here and wonder "wow, if the Dems get some moderate candidates, they might make a run for things!" While the Dem base is going after the most radical fire breathing communist candidates they can find.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
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When you push moderates out of your party, all that's left is the radicals.
I didn't expect moderation at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
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When you push moderates out of your party, all that's left is the radicals.
I didn't expect moderation at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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so you were a cop?
Posted by: Don Black
Prison guard. That's why the handcuff case could slide around on the belt. No where near as much stuff as what a cop carries. It was the cuff case and the key fob that held the cell block keys.
Posted by: Don Black
Prison guard. That's why the handcuff case could slide around on the belt. No where near as much stuff as what a cop carries. It was the cuff case and the key fob that held the cell block keys.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (e2MJJ)
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281 >Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:00 PM (e2MJJ)
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so you were a cop?
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (AOsQT)
Not a pig. Bull. Hack. Screw.
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so you were a cop?
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (AOsQT)
Not a pig. Bull. Hack. Screw.
Posted by: If I remember correctly at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (TbWk/)
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295 Prison guard. That's why the handcuff case could slide around on the belt. No where near as much stuff as what a cop carries. It was the cuff case and the key fob that held the cell block keys.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (e2MJJ)
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Attica! Attica! Attica!
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (e2MJJ)
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Attica! Attica! Attica!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (GBKbO)
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Every roof would be covered. We would have enough agents
Sorry, the security for DOCTOR Jill Biden's appearance in Pittsburgh comes first.
Sorry, the security for DOCTOR Jill Biden's appearance in Pittsburgh comes first.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (xTIDn)
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AWFLs in Houston will demand her.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I am sure that Hispanic males will be attracted to her personality and policy platform.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I am sure that Hispanic males will be attracted to her personality and policy platform.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Do they do just wrife off those expenses to skippy o rourke kamala et al
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (3Btk8)
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299 AWFLs in Houston will demand her.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I am sure that Hispanic males will be attracted to her personality and policy platform.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Oh, it's a joke.
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I am sure that Hispanic males will be attracted to her personality and policy platform.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Oh, it's a joke.
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
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>We haven't seen the ' Patriot Front ' since beginning of the year
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yeah, the FBI changed hands
those guys still work there, I would bet
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yeah, the FBI changed hands
those guys still work there, I would bet
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (AOsQT)
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Every roof would be covered. We would have enough agents or, "I'm sorry Mr. President, you can't go out there. We can't get enough agents to secure the area".
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (e2MJJ)
Honest question. If the Principal wants to go out there anyway, is that even a thing or is it only a pulp novel plot device?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (e2MJJ)
Honest question. If the Principal wants to go out there anyway, is that even a thing or is it only a pulp novel plot device?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (vakLI)
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LA is Orlando with a coastline and mountains. They both suck. A series of dilapidated strip malls interrupted by a traffic light on every corner
Posted by: Life of Wryly at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (ycs3a)
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so you were a cop?
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (AOsQT)
Not a pig. Bull. Hack. Screw.
Posted by: If I remember correctly
Back when Texas Department of Criminal Justice was simply Texas Department of Corrections.
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:05 PM (AOsQT)
Not a pig. Bull. Hack. Screw.
Posted by: If I remember correctly
Back when Texas Department of Criminal Justice was simply Texas Department of Corrections.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (e2MJJ)
Posted by: bonhomme at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (lIio7)
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286 We haven't seen the ' Patriot Front ' since beginning of the year
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (+qU29)
With USAID dismantled their brand new balaclava budget went to zero.
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2025 01:06 PM (+qU29)
With USAID dismantled their brand new balaclava budget went to zero.
Posted by: Can't glow in dirty balaclavas at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (TbWk/)
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While the Dem base is going after the most radical fire breathing communist candidates they can find.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
They think they are copying Trump.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
They think they are copying Trump.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (Qr870)
Posted by: ShainS -- Three Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (HODnp)
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (AOsQT)
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"U aren't special."
Ya know, I was gonna close with "because Im special ".
but I had a premonition that I was unspecial but still got to talk about me.
Ya know, I was gonna close with "because Im special ".
but I had a premonition that I was unspecial but still got to talk about me.
Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (ciYHQ)
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Prison guard. That's why the handcuff case could slide around on the belt. No where near as much stuff as what a cop carries. It was the cuff case and the key fob that held the cell block keys.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (e2MJJ)
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I thought prison guards were overpaid until I actually worked at a prison. I then realized they weren't paid nearly enough. I remember doing a walk through of pre trial detention, where they held some incredibly crazy and terrible people. Yeah, no thanks.
My long way of saying "thanks for helping keep us safe."
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (e2MJJ)
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I thought prison guards were overpaid until I actually worked at a prison. I then realized they weren't paid nearly enough. I remember doing a walk through of pre trial detention, where they held some incredibly crazy and terrible people. Yeah, no thanks.
My long way of saying "thanks for helping keep us safe."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (tT6L1)
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293 What's Robert Francis O'Rourke up to these days?
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (kTd/k)
Touring the state in preparation for for another run at the Senate, presumably.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (kTd/k)
Touring the state in preparation for for another run at the Senate, presumably.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (Pce4l)
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302 >We haven't seen the ' Patriot Front ' since beginning of the year
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yeah, the FBI changed hands
those guys still work there, I would bet
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (AOsQT)
You'd think they'd be celebrating a supposedly "right wing" administration. Instead, they dropped off the face of the Earth. How odd.
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yeah, the FBI changed hands
those guys still work there, I would bet
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (AOsQT)
You'd think they'd be celebrating a supposedly "right wing" administration. Instead, they dropped off the face of the Earth. How odd.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (uWKK8)
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289 Either everything from Epstein was destroyed or they're lying. And he should know:
https://tinyurl.com/ye3ynka8
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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His self admitted Epstein connections and his response about them lacks any kind of verisimilitude. Kind of like Clinton's I smoked weed but didn't inhale bullshit.
Deshowitz is using the TODDI defense. That other dude did it!!!
https://tinyurl.com/ye3ynka8
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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His self admitted Epstein connections and his response about them lacks any kind of verisimilitude. Kind of like Clinton's I smoked weed but didn't inhale bullshit.
Deshowitz is using the TODDI defense. That other dude did it!!!
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (ctrM5)
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Honest question. If the Principal wants to go out there anyway, is that even a thing or is it only a pulp novel plot device?
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (vakLI)
Also I fully realize I'm probably using the wrong terminology, but that's only because I'm the second most illiterate person on this site.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (vakLI)
Also I fully realize I'm probably using the wrong terminology, but that's only because I'm the second most illiterate person on this site.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (vakLI)
317
While the Dem base is going after the most radical fire breathing communist candidates they can find.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
They think they are copying Trump.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM
It won't work since the Right rules all the corporate media..
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
They think they are copying Trump.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM
It won't work since the Right rules all the corporate media..
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (jc0TO)
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Honest question. If the Principal wants to go out there anyway, is that even a thing or is it only a pulp novel plot device?
Posted by: WitchDoktor
I honestly have no clue. You see in movies where POTUS says he's going to stop and shake hands.
I don't know how much power the SS actually has to stop him.
Posted by: WitchDoktor
I honestly have no clue. You see in movies where POTUS says he's going to stop and shake hands.
I don't know how much power the SS actually has to stop him.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (e2MJJ)
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Don Black I am sure of that
Posted by: Skip at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (+qU29)
320
Oh, it's a joke.
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
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Someone is socking TJM?
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
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Someone is socking TJM?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (tT6L1)
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316 Also I fully realize I'm probably using the wrong terminology, but that's only because I'm the second most illiterate person on this site.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (vakLI)
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I'm #1! I'm #1!
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (vakLI)
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I'm #1! I'm #1!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (GBKbO)
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Orlando has become a sink hole of stupid like tim blair law where the pulse shooters father was a visiting iman
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (3Btk8)
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ur special to me Fenrisulven.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (fV+MH)
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Posted by: Fenrisulven at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (ciYHQ)
I think eleven was trying to say don't be too hard on yourself. I *think*. Let's see how wrong I got this.
I think eleven was trying to say don't be too hard on yourself. I *think*. Let's see how wrong I got this.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (Qr870)
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Oh, it's a joke.
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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S'Okay,
I don't get Prometheus.
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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S'Okay,
I don't get Prometheus.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)
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I am sure that Hispanic males will be attracted to her personality and policy platform.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Oh, it's a joke.
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
Roundtine… That’s gold Jerry, gold!
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (ctrM5)
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Oh, it's a joke.
I get jokes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:09 PM (GBKbO)
Roundtine… That’s gold Jerry, gold!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (5MZNC)
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Were I to speculate, I'd say the Agent in Charge that day is sitting in a detention center somewhere getting all kinds of pointed questions. And, the reason these suspensions on the regular agents present took so long was to assure that they weren't aware of (and supporting) the goals of that Agent in Charge.
Instead, they are being suspended for following the Agent In Charge's direction at the scene without question despite it being beneficial to the individual attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate.
The haven't released the name, experience or background of the Agent in Charge. Instead, they've hedged by saying Curran (being the director) had that responsibility as he attended the rally. He's a bureaucrat. He wouldn't be making the calls on something like:
"Hey, boss, there's a guy climbing up a ladder with a gun." "Stay at your designated position. It's being handled." "Ok."
Instead, they are being suspended for following the Agent In Charge's direction at the scene without question despite it being beneficial to the individual attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate.
The haven't released the name, experience or background of the Agent in Charge. Instead, they've hedged by saying Curran (being the director) had that responsibility as he attended the rally. He's a bureaucrat. He wouldn't be making the calls on something like:
"Hey, boss, there's a guy climbing up a ladder with a gun." "Stay at your designated position. It's being handled." "Ok."
Posted by: Orson at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (dIske)
328
While the Dem base is going after the most radical fire breathing communist candidates they can find.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
They think they are copying Trump.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (Qr870)
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"ONLY STALIN CAN KILL HITLER!
Open a book sometime, h8r ..."
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (uWKK
They think they are copying Trump.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (Qr870)
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"ONLY STALIN CAN KILL HITLER!
Open a book sometime, h8r ..."
Posted by: ShainS -- Three Days To 'FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Day' at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (HODnp)
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Back when Texas Department of Criminal Justice was simply Texas Department of Corrections.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (e2MJJ)
So how much like or unlike "OZ" was it? Daily shanking and buttrape?
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:10 PM (e2MJJ)
So how much like or unlike "OZ" was it? Daily shanking and buttrape?
Posted by: I would imagine a bit more mundane, if stresssful at July 10, 2025 01:13 PM (TbWk/)
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313 293 What's Robert Francis O'Rourke up to these days?
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (kTd/k)
Touring the state in preparation for for another run at the Senate, presumably.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (Pce4l)
The best part of that poll showing that Jasmine Crockett is leading among Democrats in Texas was that it also showed Beat-o with only 13% support FROM DEMOCRATS. HA! Stick a fork in his career, it is WAY over! Nobody wants a 3 time loser to hang around.
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 10, 2025 01:08 PM (kTd/k)
Touring the state in preparation for for another run at the Senate, presumably.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (Pce4l)
The best part of that poll showing that Jasmine Crockett is leading among Democrats in Texas was that it also showed Beat-o with only 13% support FROM DEMOCRATS. HA! Stick a fork in his career, it is WAY over! Nobody wants a 3 time loser to hang around.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 10, 2025 01:13 PM (uWKK8)
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327 Were I to speculate, I'd say the Agent in Charge that day is sitting in a detention center somewhere getting all kinds of pointed questions. And, the reason these suspensions on the regular agents present took so long was to assure that they weren't aware of (and supporting) the goals of that Agent in Charge.
Instead, they are being suspended for following the Agent In Charge's direction at the scene without question despite it being beneficial to the individual attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate.
The haven't released the name, experience or background of the Agent in Charge. Instead, they've hedged by saying Curran (being the director) had that responsibility as he attended the rally. He's a bureaucrat. He wouldn't be making the calls on something like:
"Hey, boss, there's a guy climbing up a ladder with a gun." "Stay at your designated position. It's being handled." "Ok."
Posted by: Orson at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (dIske)
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The names have been released.
Detailed here:
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/
1943349185279070574
Instead, they are being suspended for following the Agent In Charge's direction at the scene without question despite it being beneficial to the individual attempting to assassinate a presidential candidate.
The haven't released the name, experience or background of the Agent in Charge. Instead, they've hedged by saying Curran (being the director) had that responsibility as he attended the rally. He's a bureaucrat. He wouldn't be making the calls on something like:
"Hey, boss, there's a guy climbing up a ladder with a gun." "Stay at your designated position. It's being handled." "Ok."
Posted by: Orson at July 10, 2025 01:12 PM (dIske)
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The names have been released.
Detailed here:
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/
1943349185279070574
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Honest question. If the Principal wants to go out there anyway, is that even a thing or is it only a pulp novel plot device?
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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Supposedly, when Gorby jumped out of the limo in NYC to shake hands with those throngs of happy Yankees, it was against the vociferous insistence of security -- his, one assumes. There must be other instances where people said The hell with security, I'm goin' for it.
Honest question. If the Principal wants to go out there anyway, is that even a thing or is it only a pulp novel plot device?
Posted by: WitchDoktor
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Supposedly, when Gorby jumped out of the limo in NYC to shake hands with those throngs of happy Yankees, it was against the vociferous insistence of security -- his, one assumes. There must be other instances where people said The hell with security, I'm goin' for it.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (UmB+t)
Posted by: toby928 tugs collar at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (fV+MH)
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The fact the detail didnt know where the hospital was and waited about three minutes to get out of the parking lot
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (3Btk8)
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Beat-o with only 13% support FROM DEMOCRATS. HA! Stick a fork in his career
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What career?
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What career?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (W3T6M)
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I think I am also retarded.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (fV+MH)
There have been more controversial things expressed on these pages.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (fV+MH)
There have been more controversial things expressed on these pages.
Posted by: ... at July 10, 2025 01:15 PM (Qr870)
338
The best part of that poll showing that Jasmine Crockett is leading among Democrats in Texas was that it also showed Beat-o with only 13% support FROM DEMOCRATS. HA! Stick a fork in his career, it is WAY over! Nobody wants a 3 time loser to hang around.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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White boy fake hispanic former congress critter Beto is not longer a shiny object.
Resist We Much Crockett is now a superstar!!!! to Dems.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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White boy fake hispanic former congress critter Beto is not longer a shiny object.
Resist We Much Crockett is now a superstar!!!! to Dems.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)
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My focus these days is on transparency.
The government is trans-phobic! I want to know what they're up to, who's doing what, what's in which bills, where our troops are, what they're doing there... and on and on.
It's not just about not telling us about the Epstein op. It's not even about killing a President, and trying to shoot a leading candidate. Sure, I'd like more info on all that, but in general, what are you people up to! Everything you do should be in the open, with the ONLY exception being operations that would cause people in the line of fire to be compromised.
And if you work behind a desk at Langley, you're not in the line of fire.
The government is trans-phobic! I want to know what they're up to, who's doing what, what's in which bills, where our troops are, what they're doing there... and on and on.
It's not just about not telling us about the Epstein op. It's not even about killing a President, and trying to shoot a leading candidate. Sure, I'd like more info on all that, but in general, what are you people up to! Everything you do should be in the open, with the ONLY exception being operations that would cause people in the line of fire to be compromised.
And if you work behind a desk at Langley, you're not in the line of fire.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 10, 2025 01:15 PM (dGCAG)
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336 Beat-o with only 13% support FROM DEMOCRATS. HA! Stick a fork in his career
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What career?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (W3T6M)
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I said years ago he should have taken his close loss to Cruz and moved out of state to a New England locale with an open Senate race in the near future.
He could have used his celebrity to blanket the market with his name recognition and raise money like no one else and bypass the local machine.
Instead, he kept trying in Texas.
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What career?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (W3T6M)
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I said years ago he should have taken his close loss to Cruz and moved out of state to a New England locale with an open Senate race in the near future.
He could have used his celebrity to blanket the market with his name recognition and raise money like no one else and bypass the local machine.
Instead, he kept trying in Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:15 PM (GBKbO)
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Prometheus is better than Temple of Doom.
Posted by: eleven at July 10, 2025 01:15 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (4tvN6)
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Charlie Kirk starts his radio show today plinking that one-strung Epstein banjo… sheesh I get the interest but move on please
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (5MZNC)
344
If gerald butler from law abiding citizen were there they would have been toast
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (3Btk8)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I can see you flaunting your cob status by not using tiny url etc.
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I can see you flaunting your cob status by not using tiny url etc.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (ctrM5)
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> Honest question. If the Principal wants to go out there anyway, is that even a thing or is it only a pulp novel plot device?
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Probably "one of those things never discussed" because OPSEC. If you knew, then that is a vulnerability that can be leveraged. As is much of the OPSEC around the President and his clan.
Trump "may" have wanted to continue his Butler appearance, but circumstances would have prevented it anyway... public injuries and death for one.
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Probably "one of those things never discussed" because OPSEC. If you knew, then that is a vulnerability that can be leveraged. As is much of the OPSEC around the President and his clan.
Trump "may" have wanted to continue his Butler appearance, but circumstances would have prevented it anyway... public injuries and death for one.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 10, 2025 01:17 PM (Q4IgG)
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What career?
Posted by: pudinhead at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (W3T6M)
Dude’s got a job at Texas State in its Polk-sci department (that is, if he still “teaches” there) and an inflation adjusted pension for his time in the HR, repping El Paso. He’ll do just fine.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 10, 2025 01:14 PM (W3T6M)
Dude’s got a job at Texas State in its Polk-sci department (that is, if he still “teaches” there) and an inflation adjusted pension for his time in the HR, repping El Paso. He’ll do just fine.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 10, 2025 01:17 PM (Pce4l)
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Deshowitz is using the TODDI defense. That other dude did it!!!
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (ctrM5)
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We can play the same game with Trump, ya know.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:11 PM (ctrM5)
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We can play the same game with Trump, ya know.
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 01:17 PM (4tvN6)
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 10, 2025 01:17 PM (3Btk8)
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Wheels within Wheels. So you get Schrodinger's assassin paradox: conspiracy or nutjob. Seems like that happens with every assassination or attempted one.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)
Yes, it is very odd. And it's frustrating that no one pushes these questions.
Well, other than w/ Lee Harvey Oswald. Those questions were pushed. The answers werent forthcoming, but at least the right questions have been asked, publicly, many times.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:07 PM (ctrM5)
Yes, it is very odd. And it's frustrating that no one pushes these questions.
Well, other than w/ Lee Harvey Oswald. Those questions were pushed. The answers werent forthcoming, but at least the right questions have been asked, publicly, many times.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 01:17 PM (uCjyK)
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btw, why isn't Trump furious about this? It's his life on the line. Does he have a private detail that he trusts more than the SS?
btw, why isn't Trump furious about this? It's his life on the line. Does he have a private detail that he trusts more than the SS?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 10, 2025 01:18 PM (UmB+t)
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343 Charlie Kirk starts his radio show today plinking that one-strung Epstein banjo… sheesh I get the interest but move on please
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Better to ignore the 'influencers' as they are bad for the digestion. They rely on outrage to drive clicks plus money.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Better to ignore the 'influencers' as they are bad for the digestion. They rely on outrage to drive clicks plus money.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:18 PM (ctrM5)
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343 Charlie Kirk starts his radio show today plinking that one-strung Epstein banjo… sheesh I get the interest but move on please
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (5MZNC)
The swamp won. Move on.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (5MZNC)
The swamp won. Move on.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 10, 2025 01:18 PM (j/vBG)
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345 Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I can see you flaunting your cob status by not using tiny url etc.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Eh. Splitting x links at the final backslash keeps the link short enough to not blow the margins, tells people where you're sending them, and is faster than a link shortener.
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I can see you flaunting your cob status by not using tiny url etc.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (ctrM5)
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Eh. Splitting x links at the final backslash keeps the link short enough to not blow the margins, tells people where you're sending them, and is faster than a link shortener.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:18 PM (GBKbO)
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but move on please
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (5MZNC)
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How long is the list you're willing to move on from?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (5MZNC)
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How long is the list you're willing to move on from?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 01:18 PM (4tvN6)
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345 Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I can see you flaunting your cob status by not using tiny url etc.
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TJM flounces. He never flaunts.
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I can see you flaunting your cob status by not using tiny url etc.
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TJM flounces. He never flaunts.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 10, 2025 01:19 PM (W3T6M)
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I dont know how his rich developer father didnt cut him off the first time.
Of course money spent in texas didnt go to more critical races
Of course money spent in texas didnt go to more critical races
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 10, 2025 01:20 PM (3Btk8)
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Yes, it is very odd. And it's frustrating that no one pushes these questions.
Well, other than w/ Lee Harvey Oswald. Those questions were pushed. The answers werent forthcoming, but at least the right questions have been asked, publicly, many times.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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There are questions about Lincoln's assassination and the curious failures that allowed Booth to get access to him and escape. Supposedly Robert Lincoln believed that Edwin Stanton was behind it all. MLK, similar situation.
Heck, there are still questions even about the hit on Prince Ferdinand as to whether Serbia's top leaders knew about it or just the Black Hand terrorist organization or the hit on President McKinley.
Yes, it is very odd. And it's frustrating that no one pushes these questions.
Well, other than w/ Lee Harvey Oswald. Those questions were pushed. The answers werent forthcoming, but at least the right questions have been asked, publicly, many times.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
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There are questions about Lincoln's assassination and the curious failures that allowed Booth to get access to him and escape. Supposedly Robert Lincoln believed that Edwin Stanton was behind it all. MLK, similar situation.
Heck, there are still questions even about the hit on Prince Ferdinand as to whether Serbia's top leaders knew about it or just the Black Hand terrorist organization or the hit on President McKinley.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:21 PM (ctrM5)
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TJM flounces. He never flaunts.
Posted by: pudinhead
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How bout a compromise. TJM fleeces.
Posted by: pudinhead
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How bout a compromise. TJM fleeces.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:21 PM (ctrM5)
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but move on please
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (5MZNC)
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How long is the list you're willing to move on from?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 01:18 PM (4tvN6)
I guess I feel like it’s futile at this point so why bang your head against the wall. Kirk or anyone else perseverating on the Epstein files at this point is wasted breath for better or worse. I get it, very little makes sense on the topic but I’m tired of the outrage machine.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:16 PM (5MZNC)
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How long is the list you're willing to move on from?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at July 10, 2025 01:18 PM (4tvN6)
I guess I feel like it’s futile at this point so why bang your head against the wall. Kirk or anyone else perseverating on the Epstein files at this point is wasted breath for better or worse. I get it, very little makes sense on the topic but I’m tired of the outrage machine.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (5MZNC)
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Maybe Trump should just get rid of the secret service altogether and hire more competent people. Who does Taylor Swift use for her security?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (uCjyK)
About 2 months ago, there was a rumor going around that Trump had hired Christian Craighead, "Obi Wan Nairobi", the SAS guy who saved hundreds and smoked the Somali terrorist cocksuckers who attacked the DusitD2 complex in Nairobi a few years ago. All without orders or permission from the Limey government, which pissed them off enough that they threatened to court martial him, and wouldn't sign off on the book he wrote about the incident.
Personally, I doubt that it's true, but I can see Trump going that route.
Maybe Trump should just get rid of the secret service altogether and hire more competent people. Who does Taylor Swift use for her security?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:20 PM (uCjyK)
About 2 months ago, there was a rumor going around that Trump had hired Christian Craighead, "Obi Wan Nairobi", the SAS guy who saved hundreds and smoked the Somali terrorist cocksuckers who attacked the DusitD2 complex in Nairobi a few years ago. All without orders or permission from the Limey government, which pissed them off enough that they threatened to court martial him, and wouldn't sign off on the book he wrote about the incident.
Personally, I doubt that it's true, but I can see Trump going that route.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (y9nCu)
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So how much like or unlike "OZ" was it? Daily shanking and buttrape?
Posted by: I would imagine a bit more mundane
A lot depended on when it was. When I started on October of 82, it wasn't that bad. The line went out to work the fields and came back in in the afternoon tired. By summer of 83, it was fights daily. They were hot, tired and poor impulse control. By '85, they had pretty much done away with the inmates working the fields growing crops and weeding. Fights went down to a couple a week. Stabbings were usually over a big rift between gangs and were rare. Rapes were few. Most was consensual. I caught more consensual than ever a rape.
Biggest reason why prisons ran smooth? The powers that be could really fuck them up.
FAFO.
24/7 lockdown in your cells & sack lunches & dinners. Same as after riots. My first day on a new unit, they'd had a gang fight/stabbing the night before. Unit stayed locked down for 45 days until they figured the bad blood between the two Mexican gangs burned out.
Posted by: I would imagine a bit more mundane
A lot depended on when it was. When I started on October of 82, it wasn't that bad. The line went out to work the fields and came back in in the afternoon tired. By summer of 83, it was fights daily. They were hot, tired and poor impulse control. By '85, they had pretty much done away with the inmates working the fields growing crops and weeding. Fights went down to a couple a week. Stabbings were usually over a big rift between gangs and were rare. Rapes were few. Most was consensual. I caught more consensual than ever a rape.
Biggest reason why prisons ran smooth? The powers that be could really fuck them up.
FAFO.
24/7 lockdown in your cells & sack lunches & dinners. Same as after riots. My first day on a new unit, they'd had a gang fight/stabbing the night before. Unit stayed locked down for 45 days until they figured the bad blood between the two Mexican gangs burned out.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (e2MJJ)
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What's in a name?!
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I came across Page Turner who, disappointingly, is not an author but an HGTV home improvement host.
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I came across Page Turner who, disappointingly, is not an author but an HGTV home improvement host.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Living In a Beaver Cleaver World, at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (L/fGl)
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Eh. Splitting x links at the final backslash keeps the link short enough to not blow the margins, tells people where you're sending them, and is faster than a link shortener.
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CBD frowns on that for us commoners.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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CBD frowns on that for us commoners.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (Da7Vv)
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The names have been released.
Detailed here:
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/
1943349185279070574
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Not the one making the calls that day.
https://tinyurl.com/mw5shaap
((The Secret Service agent in charge of former President Donald Trump’s July 13 rally in Butler, Pa., “was known to be incompetent” and “failed a key examination during their federal law enforcement training,” according to new whistleblower allegations released by a Republican lawmaker.
The unidentified agent was one of several Secret Service officials sidelined after catastrophic security failures led to would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20,...))
Detailed here:
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/
1943349185279070574
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:13 PM (GBKbO)
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Not the one making the calls that day.
https://tinyurl.com/mw5shaap
((The Secret Service agent in charge of former President Donald Trump’s July 13 rally in Butler, Pa., “was known to be incompetent” and “failed a key examination during their federal law enforcement training,” according to new whistleblower allegations released by a Republican lawmaker.
The unidentified agent was one of several Secret Service officials sidelined after catastrophic security failures led to would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20,...))
Posted by: Orson at July 10, 2025 01:23 PM (dIske)
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and imitating a Wind Dancer at a used car lot.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM
Is that what those floppy things are called? I never knew that.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM
Is that what those floppy things are called? I never knew that.
Posted by: toby928 at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (jc0TO)
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White boy fake hispanic former congress critter Beto is not longer a shiny object.
Pancho Vanilla.
Pancho Vanilla.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (e2MJJ)
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Nood spike strips
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (5MZNC)
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>Eh. Splitting x links at the final backslash keeps the link short enough to not blow the margins, tells people where you're sending them, and is faster than a link shortener.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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This guy gets it!
just highlight the text
right click
open in new tab
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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This guy gets it!
just highlight the text
right click
open in new tab
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (AOsQT)
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252 Trump down to his lowest favorability rating, - 2, since April...
Posted by: Mister Ghost
Oh, no! He'll never get reelected now!
Posted by: Mister Ghost
Oh, no! He'll never get reelected now!
Posted by: Chicken Little at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (G5+As)
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I came across Page Turner who, disappointingly, is not an author but an HGTV home improvement host.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Parental hatred for a spawn by misnaming them is a terrible thing.
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Parental hatred for a spawn by misnaming them is a terrible thing.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (ctrM5)
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The six years of this administration has been... wait, * checks notes...
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (mlg/3)
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Is Crockett trying to get her picture on the cover of The Rolling Stone?
Posted by: Still lurking up north, read some, don't comment much at July 10, 2025 01:25 PM (kTd/k)
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This guy gets it!
just highlight the text
right click
open in new tab
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (AOsQT)
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Browsers correct for the carriage return, so it's easy for everyone.
I've never seen CBD chide anyone for this particular delivery of unshortened links, only those that blow the margins.
This guy gets it!
just highlight the text
right click
open in new tab
Posted by: Don Black. at July 10, 2025 01:24 PM (AOsQT)
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Browsers correct for the carriage return, so it's easy for everyone.
I've never seen CBD chide anyone for this particular delivery of unshortened links, only those that blow the margins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
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I dubbed him skippy o rourke
Posted by: Miguel cervantes at July 10, 2025 01:26 PM (3Btk8)
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This guy gets it!
just highlight the text
right click
open in new tab
Posted by: Don Black
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Kinda missing the point here. Not functionality but blog policy is to use tiny url, or some other link shortener to avoid problems like blowing out the margins. Easy enough to do with links.
just highlight the text
right click
open in new tab
Posted by: Don Black
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Kinda missing the point here. Not functionality but blog policy is to use tiny url, or some other link shortener to avoid problems like blowing out the margins. Easy enough to do with links.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:26 PM (ctrM5)
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Is that what those floppy things are called? I never knew that.
Neither did I till I tried to find a video of one in action.
Neither did I till I tried to find a video of one in action.
Posted by: An Observation sez Trump is my President at July 10, 2025 01:26 PM (Da7Vv)
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I've never seen CBD chide anyone for this particular delivery of unshortened links, only those that blow the margins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I don't get it.
Posted by: whig at July 10, 2025 01:27 PM (ctrM5)
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24/7 lockdown in your cells & sack lunches & dinners. Same as after riots. My first day on a new unit, they'd had a gang fight/stabbing the night before. Unit stayed locked down for 45 days until they figured the bad blood between the two Mexican gangs burned out.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (e2MJJ)
Wild stuff. Not someplace I would ever want to be, on either side of the bars.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 10, 2025 01:22 PM (e2MJJ)
Wild stuff. Not someplace I would ever want to be, on either side of the bars.
Posted by: No thanks at July 10, 2025 01:28 PM (TbWk/)
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I'm less sympathetic to Agent FUPA. While I can sympathize with, perhaps, being a junior agent or a primarily administrative employee suddenly shuffled into a critical position because of someone else moving pawns on a chessboard, the appropriate reaction to that is to protest to management that you're being put in an impossible position. My job is nowhere near that critical and more than once I've avoided being fired because there's a paper trail that says "I told you in advance I wasn't qualified for this, and that it was well outside my job description".
That's the incompetence she should be fired for.
That's the incompetence she should be fired for.
Posted by: Daniel Ream at July 10, 2025 01:34 PM (xBngO)
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I've never seen CBD chide anyone for this particular delivery of unshortened links, only those that blow the margins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
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In general, CBD is anti-blow.
See: (1) Hunter Biden; (2) Kamala Harris
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for thrills with John Frankenheimer at July 10, 2025 01:25 PM (GBKbO)
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In general, CBD is anti-blow.
See: (1) Hunter Biden; (2) Kamala Harris
Posted by: Another Anon at July 10, 2025 01:34 PM (4h45B)
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My job is nowhere near that critical and more than once I've avoided being fired because there's a paper trail that says "I told you in advance I wasn't qualified for this, and that it was well outside my job description".
That's the incompetence she should be fired for.
Posted by: Daniel Ream
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Alternate - I am peon not manager with superior knowledge. Management put me in a position beyond known capabilites... fire them.
That's the incompetence she should be fired for.
Posted by: Daniel Ream
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Alternate - I am peon not manager with superior knowledge. Management put me in a position beyond known capabilites... fire them.
Posted by: Operator Error at July 10, 2025 01:52 PM (4EBQC)
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Afternoon Ace.
I wonder if they'll suspend the head supervisor in the area who assigned more and more experienced agents to Dr Jill.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (JtH6i)
I suspect that was the director of the SS who did that, and she resigned soon after it happened.
I wonder if they'll suspend the head supervisor in the area who assigned more and more experienced agents to Dr Jill.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at July 10, 2025 12:19 PM (JtH6i)
I suspect that was the director of the SS who did that, and she resigned soon after it happened.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 10, 2025 01:54 PM (8avO+)
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How did he lose his shoes?
Posted by: Boss Moss at July 10, 2025 02:09 PM (zhBpy)
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It should never have been possible for some guy in Pittsburgh to fuck up that badly, if that's truly what happened.
If the SS is truly as incompetent as they were that day in PA, and the only reason all of our presidential candidates haven't been assassinated is due to blind luck and the fact that there aren't that many potential assassins living amongst us, then the entire organization needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)
Its even worse that that. Lets just grant that the SS at the time was a clusterfuck. This should still have been fully unknown to a potential assassin, especially the noob with no contacts Crooks. But he came the same day that the A team was pulled off the case? The chances of a shooter at a rally is low, since in all his other rallies they haven't seen or caught one.
So we have to buy that the shooter managed to noodle about with a scope and weapons on the site for hours without anyone seeing him and acting on it. The crowd noticed him, many times over. But the SS and LEO did not?
The other half of this equation is that some person neutered the SS AND another person vectored in Crooks.
If the SS is truly as incompetent as they were that day in PA, and the only reason all of our presidential candidates haven't been assassinated is due to blind luck and the fact that there aren't that many potential assassins living amongst us, then the entire organization needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
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Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 10, 2025 12:54 PM (uCjyK)
Its even worse that that. Lets just grant that the SS at the time was a clusterfuck. This should still have been fully unknown to a potential assassin, especially the noob with no contacts Crooks. But he came the same day that the A team was pulled off the case? The chances of a shooter at a rally is low, since in all his other rallies they haven't seen or caught one.
So we have to buy that the shooter managed to noodle about with a scope and weapons on the site for hours without anyone seeing him and acting on it. The crowd noticed him, many times over. But the SS and LEO did not?
The other half of this equation is that some person neutered the SS AND another person vectored in Crooks.
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