THE MORNING RANT: Might A.I. do to Universities What Gutenberg did to Monasteries?

There is a growing consensus that the education obtained by going to college could almost certainly be obtained more quickly and at less expense with tools available on the internet, but that the credentialing provided by legacy universities is what keeps the higher-education leviathan in place. Now we have AI coming along, with the capability of pretty much completing any assignment given to a student. Might AI finally cause the university cartel to lose its position of importance in this country? Perhaps.

John Carter wrote a fascinating piece at his Postcards From Barsoom substack titled ““AI Is Doing to the Universities What Gutenberg Did to Monasteries.”

First, he drew an analogy between the power, wealth, and prestige of monasteries in the middle ages with that of universities today. He wrote, “By the late middle ages monasteries were spectacularly wealthy. They were immune from taxation, and possessed vast land holdings thanks to generous donations made over the centuries by nobles looking to assure themselves a comfortable place in the afterlife.” Monasteries were also the “repositories, preservers, and disseminators” of all scholarly knowledge in the era before the printing press came along. All books were handwritten by monks until Johannes Gutenberg introduced the printing press in the 1450s.

Although the democratization of knowledge was thus unleashed when the Gutenberg Bible was published, the full impact kept unfolding over subsequent decades. A similar analogy might be the modern digital revolution, evolving from personal computers in the ‘80s and ‘90s to the internet growth in the ‘00s to whatever the introduction of AI will bring now.

But the monasteries retained their wealth and influence, much as modern universities have continued to retain their wealth and influence since the internet era started.

While the monasteries’ collapse was unthinkable, it was also inevitable. They had exerted enormous political power while no longer meaningfully contributing to society. It was King Henry VIII who finally decided to put an end to the monasteries’ reign of power and prestige in the 1530s. This paragraph from Mr. Carter’s piece sounds like it is written about our own Ivy League schools:

It struck many at the time as an unthinkable outrage, but in retrospect dissolving the monasteries was almost the most obvious move that Henry VIII could make. They had made themselves his political enemies, the domestic allies of his adversaries abroad: thus, by dissolving them, he crushed a hostile power centre.

Yes, dissolving a domestic hostile power center allied with foreign adversaries makes perfect sense.

They had, over the centuries, allowed their wealth and power to lead them towards luxury and corruption. The monasteries were hostile, rich, and unsympathetic, and therefore a vulnerable and attractive target for liquidation.

But most importantly, monasteries were no longer necessary, just like the entrenched four-year university structure is no longer necessary to provide a post-high school education.

Now that the world had the printing press, the monasteries’ primary reason for existence – the core justification for both their prestige and their accumulated wealth – no longer applied.They had outlived their usefulness, making them nothing more than an irritating thorn in the king’s side and a tempting concentration of loot. Henry VIII lost nothing whatsoever by dissolving them, and gained a great deal.

Our own university system is on the cusp of a similar collapse. This may seem outrageous, given the size, wealth, and massive cultural importance of universities, but at the dawn of the 16th century, the suggestion that monasteries would be dismantled across Europe within a generation would have struck everyone – even their opponents – as absurd.

Mr. Carter goes on to discuss how AI is being used so extensively now by college students that there is almost no way to determine to what extent, if any, students are learning or doing any actual studying or writing.

In 2022, ChatGPT became available. Almost overnight undergraduate students began using it to write their essays for them. Its abuse has now become essentially ubiquitous, and not only for essays: ChatGPT can write code or solve mathematical problems just as easily as it can generate reams of plausible-sounding text.

Aside from networking and “the college experience,” the main selling point of a traditional college degree has been that it serves a credentialing purpose. The degree provides prospective employers some level of attestation that the graduate was able to complete a rigorous four-year educational journey, and thus has the aptitude for professional work. (I wrote that last sentence knowing that there is an abundance of worthless degrees out there nowadays, but for STEM / accounting / architecture type fields of study, the degree has still retained its legitimacy.)

The class of 2026 will have spent their entire undergraduate career in an academic setting in which the use of AI is so ubiquitous that it is simply assumed that every student has outsourced every assignment they were given to the context window. Students assume this, professors assume this, and naturally, employers assume this.

Mr. Carter then makes the assumption that employers will soon be abandoning their reliance on universities as a credentialing service since AI will be doing all the work for students. We can hope that is the case. But what follows?

Aptitude tests in the subject being learned seem to be an obvious choice to me. In my perfect world, the whole university system collapses and we replace it with specialized academies (or conservatories) in which the students focus simply on their area of specialization for an abbreviated period, and not bothering with electives, history or whatever else fills up the current four-year degree plan. What I want in a new hire is someone who has solid math skills, understands T-accounting, can write a coherent sentence, and can pass a test proving that competence. While I would hope (s)he has an interest in science, history, and geography, those are irrelevant subjects to the career path. I also hate seeing these young graduates starting their careers while carrying a crushing debt burden from the four-year “college experience.”

The demise of the legacy university system’s role in our society is inevitable, just like the demise of the monasteries’ prominent role was inevitable. It will crumble rapidly once the collapse starts. Maybe the battle of titans between Donald Trump and Harvard University will be remembered as the beginning of the end of the university cartel.

[h/t to Mr. CBD, who sent me this article, and with whom I had a nice exchange of emails discussing the subject.]

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 HI

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (VVnrT)

2 Make lazy monks?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

3 1st?

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:01 AM (77rzZ)

4 AI will do anything, like climate change or racism!

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 27, 2025 11:02 AM (J86+s)

5 There is a growing consensus that the education obtained by going to college could almost certainly be obtained more quickly and at less expense with tools available on the internet

Not all of it. There's no way I would go to see a doctor who got all of his/her medical education online.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:03 AM (77rzZ)

6 Today is going to be wild.
SC news is about to take over everything else as we finally win some.
Still dancing. ❤️💃

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (t/2Uw)

7 >>In 2022, ChatGPT became available. Almost overnight undergraduate students began using it to write their essays for them. Its abuse has now become essentially ubiquitous, and not only for essays: ChatGPT can write code or solve mathematical problems just as easily as it can generate reams of plausible-sounding text.

Saw a headline earlier this week about HR people upset that people are using AI to tailor their resumes to match their posted job opening descriptions.

It's their own dang fault, of course. They were the ones that implemented online job application systems that uses code to screen out most resumes before they are seen by a human at the company.

But yeah, AI is changing ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING for white collar/laptop class jobs. Meanwhile, the HVAC guy and plumbers can't fake anything, so they're safe in that respect.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (VVnrT)

8 In 2022, ChatGPT became available. Almost overnight undergraduate students began using it to write their essays for them. Its abuse has now become essentially ubiquitous, and not only for essays: ChatGPT can write code or solve mathematical problems just as easily as it can generate reams of plausible-sounding text.

Here is the bigger problem. You still need people who can think, and a student cohort that does nothing but task AI with that thought is useless. We will need to develop alternative ways that maintain the integrity of the testing process, e.g. proctored tests with no devices of any kind.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

9 If a student uses AI to complete an assignment why doesn't the AI receive the grade?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (Q4IgG)

10 So I have agreed to teach one more class at the university where I don't teach anymore unless I'm low on beer money...and I'm low on beer money.
The class is about the use and management of Information systems in business. For the first time I will introduce AI...something I just learned to spell recently. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (W/lyH)

11 Oh, is it Piss on The Catholics Day again?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (mlg/3)

12 6 Today is going to be wild.
SC news is about to take over everything else as we finally win some.
Still dancing. ❤️💃
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (t/2Uw)

The Macarena???

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (PCK5/)

13 8 Here is the bigger problem. You still need people who can think, and a student cohort that does nothing but task AI with that thought is useless. We will need to develop alternative ways that maintain the integrity of the testing process, e.g. proctored tests with no devices of any kind.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

=======

Blue books.

"But, oh no, I'll have to read bad handwriting!"

*points to elementary schools*

The rot is deep. Any desire to actually fix it requires a lot of effort.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (GBKbO)

14 No fish for you.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (VAINm)

15 John Carter wrote a fascinating piece

virginia?

Posted by: tars tarkas at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (sGtp+)

16 11 Oh, is it Piss on The Catholics Day again?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (mlg/3)

Not from me….

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:06 AM (PCK5/)

17 The specific material is, for lack of a better word, immaterial for most jobs. One needs to demonstrate that one not only possesses a core corpus of knowledge, but the ability to reason. That's the real value of a university education, even though most people never develop it. It's almost as if most people don't really belong in college.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:06 AM (Riz8t)

18 Interesting insights. I'm no big fan of the dissolution of the monasteries nor of Henry VIII.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 11:06 AM (2GCMq)

19 15 John Carter wrote a fascinating piece

virginia?
Posted by: tars tarkas at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (sGtp+)

======

Vir--ginnnnnia.

Now, jump!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:06 AM (GBKbO)

20 HI
Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:00 AM (VVnrT)

Yes.

Posted by: Judge Kamehameha at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (rCia8)

21 The monasteries held on for a 100 years before Henry dissolved them, and even to this day still have some power.

Today's universities could hold on for much longer. Even if universities were today considered academically useless, it will take at least 3 generations before the prestige and tradition of attending a major university fades. Legacy is a very powerful thing.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (iFTx/)

22 The Democrats' key base now, as evidenced in the New York City election, are people with useless degrees (frequently paid for with substantial student debt), who think that they deserve to be much richer and more powerful than they are.

The "barista proletariat", as someone put it.

A key reason for crushing the universities is to stymie the growth of this (mostly female) class, who will happily destroy American society, so long as they think their social position will improve.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (xTIDn)

23 TikTok killed the video star.

Posted by: In my home and in my car at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (XQo4F)

24 John Carter wrote a fascinating piece at his Postcards From Barsoom substack titled ““AI Is Doing to the Universities What Gutenberg Did to Monasteries.”
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Not entirely accurate. Besides accepting at face value the official government narrative of the Henry's day, monasteries had already lost the monopoly attributed to them, to the universities.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (od0dV)

25 Henry VIII destroyed the Cistercians in England, just as they were developing industrial steel. He destroyed his own prosperity by being grabby.

There was a secular book industry in Europe from the 1200's on, and they put out more books than Gutenberg ever managed to print. It takes a while for that stuff to scale.

And monasteries and seminaries bought printing presses.

Posted by: Suburbanbanshee at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (cHUaN)

26 It’s interesting to contemplate but in the real world the universities will not be replaced as a credentialing system for entree into the professional job market. It just won’t happen… in my profession of engineering I guarantee you that AI cannot prepare you to enter my world and do a decent job. Nope

AI is vastly overhyped in many respects

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 27, 2025 11:08 AM (lepZb)

27 "...the prestige and tradition..."

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: SEC football stadiums at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (XQo4F)

28 Well ... bye.

Posted by: Curly Bill Brocius at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (jc0TO)

29 11 Oh, is it Piss on The Catholics Day again?
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Not hardly. Mackerel Snappers never had it so good.

Posted by: Ecclesiastically Challenged at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (G5+As)

30 The value of monasteries cannot be overstated as to their importance in preserving Christianity for hundreds and hundreds of years, IMO… without them the faith may well have been destroyed in most places.

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (PCK5/)

31 Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

But schools hadn't been teaching "thought" for at least 40 years before AI so this is no big loss.

Maybe the reason chatgpt can so easily complete the majority of these wrriten assignments is because the assignments were already designed to be completed by a vacuous parrot.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (rCia8)

32 >>Here is the bigger problem. You still need people who can think, and a student cohort that does nothing but task AI with that thought is useless. We will need to develop alternative ways that maintain the integrity of the testing process, e.g. proctored tests with no devices of any kind.

Here's my pessimistic assumption: organizations are going to implement AI to make the decisions in place of people - for consistency and quality assurance, they'll claim! - so, no, they won't need people who can think. They'll need a lot fewer people and they'll be thrilled to reduce staff, one of their biggest expenses.

Just imagine how, say, United Health could streamline treatment plans and prescriptions if they set up parameters then let AI decide. "It's not our fault your cancer treatment was denied, the system weighed the probably outcomes of the prescribed treatment against your medical history and decided it would most likely not work."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (VVnrT)

33 Still don't get why "AI" is anything other than more powerful computing. Nothing we build can ever become self-aware. We, ourselves, don't even know what consciousness is. It remains the mystery of life.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 11:10 AM (ITkJX)

34 Our own university system is on the cusp of a similar collapse.

Modern American universities exist to house minor league professional sports teams and provide expensive credentialing in the field of robbing the treasury.

There are actual STEM-related fields which have value but pay an excessive burden to exist as part of the whole as opposed to being a technical school.

No one at the university is taught to think. None of the "well rounded" classes are worth a damn even in the event that the core classes are. Put a dagger through its heart and move on.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:10 AM (ExV1e)

35 > Saw a headline earlier this week about HR people upset that people are using AI to tailor their resumes to match their posted job opening descriptions.
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Somewhat related...

When applying for FedGov jobs there's a "formula" that people use to get their resumes past the digital screening processes... a pre-AI set of programs that can detect key words and phrases that are desirable for a future hire.

I'm sure AI could do the same.

But, even as late as 2020 FedGov was still (in some cases) doing in person interviews with various questions from a panel.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 11:10 AM (Q4IgG)

36 A key reason for crushing the universities is to stymie the growth of this (mostly female) class, who will happily destroy American society, so long as they think their social position will improve.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (xTIDn)

Let's not forget the free tuition illegals, foreign student visas to shitholes and hostile nations, many of whom are male and wed be better off if they stayed in their islamic slime or rapey african nations. And how many CCP spies do we really need in engineering programs?

Posted by: night lifted at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM (FZn/N)

37 Might A.I. do to Universities What Gutenberg did to Monasteries?

Moreso, imagine what it could do to the K-12 Marxist Degeneracy indoctrination system?

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM (YNfms)

38 I still like Gregorian Chants.

So the monks aren't completely useless.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM (dGCAG)

39 No, the universities are never going away because they are important to the military-industrial complex as their greatest recruitment tool to obtain talented people to figure out ever more efficient ways to kill people and break things.

Posted by: Billy Batson at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM (55re8)

40 11 Oh, is it Piss on The Catholics Day again?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (mlg/3)
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That's every day.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM (od0dV)

41 There, their, they're.

Get it right AI. Get it right.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM (flKEw)

42 Just imagine how, say, United Health could streamline treatment plans and prescriptions if they set up parameters then let AI decide. "It's not our fault your cancer treatment was denied, the system weighed the probably outcomes of the prescribed treatment against your medical history and decided it would most likely not work."
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Add in social credit scores, and voila! A perfect society!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM (Dv3i1)

43 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2025 11:12 AM (+qU29)

44 43 Good morning horde
Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2025 11:12 AM (+qU29)

Morning, skip… ready to join the scrum???

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (PCK5/)

45 Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM (VVnrT)

Yep. Making AI a god was always the crux of the problem with it.

The Left knew this and so got in on the ground floor, programming it to agree with them from the start.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (rCia8)

46 There are actual STEM-related fields which have value but pay an excessive burden to exist as part of the whole as opposed to being a technical school.

The local state university literally charges more for engineering courses than other courses, because engineering degrees are actually valuable.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (xTIDn)

47 Maybe the reason chatgpt can so easily complete the majority of these wrriten assignments is because the assignments were already designed to be completed by a vacuous parrot.
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:09 AM

I recently had to correct someone who repeatedly writes "are" instead of "our". This person has a master's degree in...wait for it...healthcare communication.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (kgE5c)

48 I don’t remember 90% of what I learned in college. But the network I built in those 5 (shut up yes it was 5 😄

years has been invaluable to my career. Just today I was on LinkedIn and saw one of my bros from back in the day was in the news. He’s an exec at a company that launched a pretty cool product this week. I wrote him a congrats note and we got chatting for a while about the old days. I’m pretty sure I could call him up and ask him for a job if need be and he’d find something for me. And if someone called me looking for a job id do what I could to find something at my company.

That’s what college is about, the experience and meeting people. Not the “education”.

So no I don’t think colleges will go away any time soon.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (ORJZB)

49 Nice post.

Very interesting food for thought.

Posted by: eleven at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (fV+MH)

50 I like to think of myself as a biological AI.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (jc0TO)

51 Here is the bigger problem. You still need people who can think, and a student cohort that does nothing but task AI with that thought is useless. We will need to develop alternative ways that maintain the integrity of the testing process, e.g. proctored tests with no devices of any kind.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:04 AM (Riz8t)

The student cohort wasn't doing so hot with thinking anyway.

Posted by: AI just accelerated it at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (TbWk/)

52 Mackerel Snappers was the garage band name for the group that would ultimately come to be known as Phish.

Posted by: Music Nerd at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (XQo4F)

53 MAIL, MAIL, and AI.

Suddenly Logan's Run is benevolent. Ave Sandman!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2025 11:14 AM (c/KMW)

54 I still like Gregorian Chants.

So the monks aren't completely useless.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:11 AM

Call me biased, but I'm a Byzantine chant kinda guy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (kgE5c)

55 Anyone remember the Xerox commercial set in a monastery?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (2UnvF)

56 Morning, skip… ready to join the scrum???
Posted by: tubal

This morning we found a new topic to argue about.

RICHARD III DID NOT KILL THE PRINCES IN THE TOWER!!! REEEEEEE!!!!

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (77rzZ)

57 It is surprising just how completely the Whig historical narrative dominates our culture, to this day. The author linked doesn't even think to what happened overseas from England.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (od0dV)

58 I like to think of myself as a biological AI.
Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (jc0TO)

Yes if by AI you mean Absolutely Impertinent.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (rCia8)

59 Birthright citizenship case dropped?

Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (Hxfl9)

60 When applying for FedGov jobs there's a "formula" that people use to get their resumes past the digital screening processes... a pre-AI set of programs that can detect key words and phrases that are desirable for a future hire.

I'm sure AI could do the same.

But, even as late as 2020 FedGov was still (in some cases) doing in person interviews with various questions from a panel.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 11:10 AM (Q4IgG)

AI scanning of resumes is a thing in a lot of places. There are programs that were designed just to do that, find the key words.

So... people applying for jobs started using programs that would help them insert the proper key words into the resume.

So if you were a janitor, you can't just say "I swept floors," you have to say "Implemented protocols to ensure sanitary conditions in the workplace, assisting in reducing pathogens, creating and implementing safety measures, and decreased workforce costs."

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (dGCAG)

61 Science fiction authors - we warned you!

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 27, 2025 11:16 AM (c/KMW)

62 Another loss for the liberal wing. As crazy as it seems, putting an age requirement on Pron sites is constitutional.

The liberal wing does not. Just wow.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:16 AM (G0vdT)

63 >>The demise of the legacy university system’s role in our society is inevitable, just like the demise of the monasteries’ prominent role was inevitable.

The universities and the "everyone goes to college!" politicians gave it a huge head start. They've been issuing useless [whatever] Studies degrees for a few decades.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:16 AM (VVnrT)

64 11 Oh, is it Piss on The Catholics Day again?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM (mlg/3)

Every day, you pope-sucking bead-rattling mackerel snapping indulgence dealer!

Posted by: If you're gonna do it go all the way at June 27, 2025 11:16 AM (TbWk/)

65 Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (ORJZB)

A super senior, eh? It's all starting to come together... 🤔

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (rCia8)

66 Study shows that 56% of younger liberal women have been diagnosed with a mental illness. Tell me something else I don't know. They also suffer much greater levels of anxiety and depression. This study is making news now, even though it was published in 2020.

These are self-reported diagnoses, so take that for what it's worth. The victim mentality could account for a significant percentage lying about or embellishing their mental health history.

https://tinyurl.com/mvj5k5j

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

67 replace it with specialized academies (or conservatories) in which the students focus simply on their area of specialization for an abbreviated period, and not bothering with electives, history or whatever else fills up the current four-year degree plan.

"But the General Education requirements are supposed to make you well rounded and better able to handle life's challenges from getting an exposure to a diverse worldview!" -Normal argument.

And of course the colleges will not be as profitable if a student can get a degree in two years vs. four.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (BpO1e)

68 Things I have learned at the HQ… me not opining on legal issues… I know nothing about how the system works…
Posted by: tubal

Wait. The system works?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (L/fGl)

69 Call me biased, but I'm a Byzantine chant kinda guy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (kgE5c)

I'm not aware of such a thing. I'll have to check it out.

Has Lady Gaga done any?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (dGCAG)

70 48 I don’t remember 90% of what I learned in college. But the network I built in those 5 (shut up yes it was 5 😄 years has been invaluable to my career. Just today I was on LinkedIn and saw one of my bros from back in the day was in the news. He’s an exec at a company that launched a pretty cool product this week. I wrote him a congrats note and we got chatting for a while about the old days. I’m pretty sure I could call him up and ask him for a job if need be and he’d find something for me. And if someone called me looking for a job id do what I could to find something at my company.

That’s what college is about, the experience and meeting people. Not the “education”.

So no I don’t think colleges will go away any time soon.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (ORJZB)

It's a good point, but leads to an obvious conclusion - the party schools on the beach provide the exact same benefit to prospective students that super expensive Ivy League schools do. It's just a matter of which social club you want to join.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (uWKK8)

71 "The value of monasteries cannot be overstated as to their importance in preserving Christianity for hundreds and hundreds of years, IMO… without them the faith may well have been destroyed in most places."

Power is great, but power also corrupts. It's an enigma, or something about new wine in old wineskins?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (vbXSk)

72 Anyone remember the Xerox commercial set in a monastery?
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Someone put up a one-panel cartoon by the printer in an office I was working in. It showed a monk slumped unconscious over a manuscript, and another monk standing over him and yelling, "Printer's down!"

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:18 AM (77rzZ)

73 Until the class distinction of college changes, I think the death of the university system is great overstated, AI or not. They survived laptops in the classroom and all the cheating that invited, AI is just one more step.

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:18 AM (jGJov)

74 The Universities didn’t just make an enemy of Donald VIII. They made enemies of half the country.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 27, 2025 11:18 AM (jbnUc)

75 58 I like to think of myself as a biological AI.
Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (jc0TO)

Yes if by AI you mean Absolutely Impertinent.
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (rCia

Astonishingly Ineffectual

Posted by: That's my AI at June 27, 2025 11:18 AM (TbWk/)

76 Every day, you pope-sucking bead-rattling mackerel snapping indulgence dealer!
Posted by: If you're gonna do it go all the way at June 27, 2025 11:16 AM (TbWk/)

That's some quality anti-papist cant there.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (dGCAG)

77 I suspect that half the commenters here are AIs.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (jc0TO)

78 BIRTHRIGHT CASE DROPPED. Win for Trump, but not complete. ACB wrote the opinion, to which all the good guys joined.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (iFTx/)

79 My wife is a Professor at a State University. A couple years ago she started seeing AI generated work and weeded out the cheaters like she would a plagiarist. Nowadays it is almost impossible unless the student uses really stupid prompts and doesn't look over the work. For example, one paper started with the sentence..."Van Gogh and Picasso were contemporaries in the early 20th century...". But for the most part, it's a lost cause.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (2cS/G)

80 A super senior, eh? It's all starting to come together... 🤔
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (rCia

Super duper.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (ORJZB)

81 Pope Sucking Bead Rattling Mackerel Snapping Indulgence Dealers used to tour with Judas Priest.

Posted by: Back in the day at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (XQo4F)

82 I still like Gregorian Chants.

So the monks aren't completely useless.
Posted by: BurtTC

Bavarian monks, in particular, brew some amazing beer.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (sya53)

83 These are self-reported diagnoses, so take that for what it's worth.

I refer to it as "Doctor TikTok" myself.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (BpO1e)

84 so many monasteries and related organizations became the Universities, or founded them initially.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (D7oie)

85 The monasteries held on for a 100 years before Henry dissolved them, and even to this day still have some power.

Today's universities could hold on for much longer. Even if universities were today considered academically useless, it will take at least 3 generations before the prestige and tradition of attending a major university fades. Legacy is a very powerful thing.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (iFTx/)

Yup. I won't see the university demise in my liftime. They'll hang on, if for nothing else, their sports programs.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (g8Ew8)

86 I'll add some "naturalized" people to my previous comment. JUst because you technically "followed" he rules does NOT mean you are not loyal to your birth country. Ex: Linda Sun, from the CCP, she has been charged with being an agent for China. We need to turn off the immigration spigot altogether until we sort out the mess.

Posted by: night lifted at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (FZn/N)

87 One of the purposes of the college degree in the past few decades was as a requirement for many higher positions. It was a seal of approval that you were functional, one that HR could check up with, rather than taking a gamble with someone off the street.

Part of that was the whole "Disparate Impact" issue with testing for competency - companies get in legal hot water if they test things that a gung-ho pro bono lawyer could argue isn't needed (even if it's a secondary or tertiary thing, like being able to read). So that mess was offloaded to colleges, to have them do the testing and verification.

Except now Joanna (nee Johnny) can't write, can barely write, cannot follow instructions, but can cause a hell of a lot of problems because you aren't printing "Freedom For Palistine! River To The Sea!" paper cups at the factory. Despite a 4.0 GPA in Critical Alphabet studies.

So, if a bachelor's degree is no long indicative of being able to work hard and to learn new things, why would companies keep using it as the gold standard? They'd need new ways to determine if a person can actually do the work, rather than just saving money and "hiring" ChatGPT themselves.

Posted by: Another Anon at June 27, 2025 11:20 AM (4h45B)

88 AI isn't going to repair an engine, service an elevator or any other activity that requires actual "hands on" experience. Not anytime soon.

Even simplistic, repetitive jobs like, say, mowing grass is a challenge for AI driven 'bots.

At some point they encounter something unfamiliar and fail.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)

89 These are self-reported diagnoses, so take that for what it's worth. The victim mentality could account for a significant percentage lying about or embellishing their mental health history.

https://tinyurl.com/mvj5k5j
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

It's a fair question. Did they control for lib chicks who fake mental illness on TikTok for clout?

Posted by: Tourette's is IN this year... at June 27, 2025 11:20 AM (TbWk/)

90 Will AI replace ACE?

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 11:20 AM (FmapG)

91 Mr. Carter then makes the assumption that employers will soon be abandoning their reliance on universities as a credentialing service since AI will be doing all the work for students. We can hope that is the case. But what follows?
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That is inevitable, but it has little if anything to do with AI. AI will be blamed because it will in part be true but primarily because it is a convenient excuse to what needs to be done anyway.

Outside of certain hard sciences (engineering, doctoring, math, etc.) where the university is more akin to trade school, it is true *today*. A person who did not go to college is an unknown quantity. A person who went to college for a "studies" degree - or increasingly, a non-hard-sciences degree at all - may well be a pig-ignorant ideological robot.

The universities are killing themselves. The "degree as proxy for minimum competence" is a thing only because testing during interviews was racist or something. Something else will replace it, because it's not fit for purpose anymore. The universities did that themselves. AI *might* hasten the death of universities, but it did not cause it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:20 AM (6bTRc)

92 > While I would hope (s)he has an interest in science, history, and geography, those are irrelevant subjects to the career path.

Well, a university education was supposed to be (note: *supposed to be*) the mark of a knowledgeable individual (whether a noble in days of old, or a voter in modern times) who did in fact have knowledge of those things, so the country could be properly governed-- for example, knowing that communism has failed every time it's been tried, or where the country we're currently bombing is located, and what historical factors led up to said bombing.

Institutions that focus strictly on a "career path" already exist. They're called trade schools.

So... there's that.

I'm not sure that generative AI systems are the answer to that need. They basically synthesize stuff from what's been put into them, and a lot of the university-level stuff nowadays (as we all know) complete garbage.

(this is not a criticism of trade schools, by the way... *good* trade schools are awesome and should be encouraged and supported whenever possible)

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (qpyNK)

93 66 These are self-reported diagnoses, so take that for what it's worth. The victim mentality could account for a significant percentage lying about or embellishing their mental health history.

https://tinyurl.com/mvj5k5j
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

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A desire to be mentally ill might be worse than actually being mentally ill.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)

94 Hasn't the black man suffered enough?

The Post Millennial@TPostMillennial
Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

95 I still like Gregorian Chants.

So the monks aren't completely useless.
Posted by: BurtTC

Bavarian monks, in particular, brew some amazing beer.
Posted by: t-bird

Proof God loves us.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (flKEw)

96 94 Hasn't the black man suffered enough?

The Post Millennial@TPostMillennial
Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

======

Completely unrelated:

What's black fatigue?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)

97 >>AI scanning of resumes is a thing in a lot of places. There are programs that were designed just to do that, find the key words.

So... people applying for jobs started using programs that would help them insert the proper key words into the resume.
- - -

Had a friend who was job-hunting earlier this year. He used a chat group of fellow job-seekers to exchange ideas on what AI prompts to use to have AI rewrite his resume with each job application. He got to a point where he could turn around a new resume version almost immediately.

Job applicants have to do this nowadays thanks to the changes in company hiring practices. For starters, over half the job opening posted are not real - the are fishing for current resumes to see what's out there, trends, etc. Then there's LinkedIn where there will be a job posting that has hundreds of applicants within an hour.
It's bananas, and it's not the job-seekers who have made it such clusterf#%^k!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (VVnrT)

98 Bavarian monks, in particular, brew some amazing beer.
Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (sya53)

Having spent some time in the area, I put forth sufficient effort, trying to find beers I liked, and generally came up empty.

The whole "liquid bread" thing really turned me off.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (dGCAG)

99 Aptitude tests in the subject being learned seem to be an obvious choice to me.
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That used to be fairly common in employment/hiring, but muh racism.

But I also think this should be the norm in education. The notion of "testing out" of something is anathema, and it shouldn't be. If I already know it, or can go learn it quickly, why should I attend the class?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (6bTRc)

100 I suspect that half the commenters here are AIs.
Posted by: toby928

Muldoon, for sure.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (77rzZ)

101 I was lucky enough to visit London once, and spent a day at the Tower of London, which is really quite huge. One part of it served as the Royal Mint for centuries. They told the story their of the aftermath of King Henry VIII's Dissolution of the Monasteries act; as part of that, the Crown confiscated all of the Silver holdings.
In those days, Gold was still rather rare in Europe, and Silver was the precious metal of choice for coinage and almost all wealth storage. The monasteries had accumulated vast amounts, and Henry had it all rounded up and sent to the Tower, where Henry had it turned into coinage. (The true source of his and his heir Elizabeth's wealth) There was so much silver that the Mint worked around the clock for 12 YEARS melting it all down and stamping it all into coinage with Henry VIII's mug on them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (uWKK8)

102 My kids use ChatGPT for assignments. They change them enough to make it their own (or so they say). But it’s basically AI doing the work.

I could tell them you’re not learning it’s cheating blah blah. But reality is everyone’s doing it. Why put my kids at a disadvantage for some morality play? Don't hate the player hate the game.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (ORJZB)

103 >>>Yup. I won't see the university demise in my liftime. They'll hang on, if for nothing else, their sports programs.

the universities could commit any number of heinous crimes before the average college football or basketball fan would be willing to admit there is a problem

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (jGJov)

104 YouTube did to handymen what Gutenberg did to Monasteries.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (VofaG)

105 Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'

Re-reads the "Fifteen Second African" essay.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (BpO1e)

106 21 The monasteries held on for a 100 years before Henry dissolved them, and even to this day still have some power.

Today's universities could hold on for much longer. Even if universities were today considered academically useless, it will take at least 3 generations before the prestige and tradition of attending a major university fades. Legacy is a very powerful thing.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:07 AM (iFTx/)

Indeed it is. There was an article in Ted Gioia's Substack about his undergrad education as an American at Oxford. He said that it was impossible for cheating (or AI) there, because the system of teaching was largely discussion-based. There would be no midterm exams, just a final exam consisting of answering a couple of simple questions. The questions, however, were structured in such a way as to make it impossible to pass without showing deep and extensive knowledge of that subject.

I can see real colleges going back to the Blue Book system of my yout in the near future.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (zb+I1)

107 25
‘ Henry VIII destroyed the Cistercians in England, just as they were developing industrial steel. He destroyed his own prosperity by being grabby.’

Look. I had a lot of people that I didn’t like. How am I supposed to know which ones were the smart ones?

Posted by: Henry VIII at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (jbnUc)

108 Will AI replace ACE?
Posted by: pudinhead

Dude, it's artificial intelligence, not artificial Moron.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (L/fGl)

109 >>Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'

Is he saying stabbing a stranger is what it means to be black in America?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (VVnrT)

110 AI is a great chance to remake "academia", but then again, if the leftists are writing most of the code, AI will be a leftist monstrosity (as it largely is already ... given MSFT, GOOG, APPL ... NVidia I guess as well.

And people keep voting with their wallet to fund those overvalued stocks, because they are the stocks that keep going up ... the MoMo stocks of the ? 80s are now the MAG7, while good old GE flounders.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (vbXSk)

111 BMW = Bavarian Monk Works.

Posted by: Just brew it at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (XQo4F)

112 The New Camaldoli Hermitage makes some really good fruitcake and date loaves.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2025 11:24 AM (sJ4fj)

113 Super duper.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:19 AM (ORJZB)

I'm sure all those freshman girls found that out about you the hard way.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:24 AM (rCia8)

114 107 25
‘ Henry VIII destroyed the Cistercians in England, just as they were developing industrial steel. He destroyed his own prosperity by being grabby.’

Look. I had a lot of people that I didn’t like. How am I supposed to know which ones were the smart ones?
Posted by: Henry VIII at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (jbnUc)

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He was upending an entire power structure and had to pay off loyalists to keep them loyal.

That was expensive.

Plus, Anne Boleyn wanted solid gold dresses.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:24 AM (GBKbO)

115 Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

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It's a sad state of affairs when you can't just stab a white boy in the heart whenever you feel like it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 27, 2025 11:24 AM (2UnvF)

116 Every chick under 30 suffers from “anxiety”.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:24 AM (ORJZB)

117 ChatGPT doesn't know everything and it lies. This is an excerpt from a "conversation" I had with AI recently:

Me: In Bonfire of the Vanities, was the "girl with brown lipstick" from the same part of the Bronx as AOC?

ChatGPT: All we know about Shelly is that she works (or at least sat) in the Bronx courthouse — there’s no mention of her specific Bronx neighborhood or community ties .

Me: Shelly Thomas lived with her parents in Riverdale.

ChatGPT: You’re absolutely right — The Bonfire of the Vanities does state that Shelly Thomas, the “girl with the brown lipstick,” lived with her parents in Riverdale, in the Bronx.

That means: Yes, she is from the same general part of the Bronx as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who also grew up in Riverdale/Kingsbridge, a relatively affluent area in the northwest Bronx.

Posted by: Oglebay at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (MMp6W)

118 Job applicants have to do this nowadays thanks to the changes in company hiring practices. For starters, over half the job opening posted are not real - the are fishing for current resumes to see what's out there, trends, etc. Then there's LinkedIn where there will be a job posting that has hundreds of applicants within an hour.
It's bananas, and it's not the job-seekers who have made it such clusterf#%^k!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (VVnrT)

Agreed. You can't just be good at what you do, and have the right credentials, if you want a job nowadays, you damn well better get with the program, literally.

Your resume MUST have all the right words. Which means eventually the dimwits in the HR Industrial Complex will figure out they're getting bad candidates who use the same damn techniques they do, and will have to add more layers of idiocy to the hiring process.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (dGCAG)

119 >>> The notion of "testing out" of something is anathema, and it shouldn't be. If I already know it, or can go learn it quickly, why should I attend the class?

Is that true? My college had placement tests at orientation to help people place out of the basic math and english classes. I used CLEP tests for a number of classes and all that was administered by the university. More students should take advantage of it though.

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (jGJov)

120 Used to date her.

Posted by: Just the punchline at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (XQo4F)

121 Book learning will never exceed the importance of practical learning.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (VofaG)

122 Anything destroying our subversive can't be bad

Posted by: Skip at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (+qU29)

123 102 My kids use ChatGPT for assignments. They change them enough to make it their own (or so they say). But it’s basically AI doing the work.

I could tell them you’re not learning it’s cheating blah blah. But reality is everyone’s doing it. Why put my kids at a disadvantage for some morality play? Don't hate the player hate the game.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:22 A

That's how I used to do my assignments but I used an encyclopedia.

Posted by: CaliGirl at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (ajCaF)

124 >>Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'
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He's the real victim here.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (rCia8)

125 A desire to be mentally ill might be worse than actually being mentally ill.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)

I would agree. Actual mental illness, such as clinical depression, OCD, schizophrenia, PTSD, sucks ass. I'd give my left nut to ditch clinical depression and other shit I have to deal with. Anyone who's experienced these DOES NOT WANT IT and I piss on anyone who fakes and pretends for attention.

Posted by: No you aren't triggered or "feeling" OCD right now at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (TbWk/)

126 > Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'
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Something of a self own there. Ask him why this is so.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (Q4IgG)

127 I'm convinced that most of the job sites are run by AI bots.

I do a search on the term "paralegal," and I get all of these job postings for lawyers in addition to those for paralegals. I do not have a law degree or license, and therefore cannot practice law. But some bot just sees the "legal" part of paralegal and dumps all job postings with "legal" or "law" in them into the hopper.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:26 AM (77rzZ)

128 >>>Every chick under 30 suffers from “anxiety”.

Social media has medicalized the concept of "stress" into anxiety. Xanax for everyone.

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:26 AM (jGJov)

129 The demise of the legacy university system’s role in our society is inevitable, just like the demise of the monasteries’ prominent role was inevitable. It will crumble rapidly once the collapse starts.
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And like the monasteries, many will survive - albeit in a reduced way.

But there are staggering number of universities that are on the razor's edge of bankruptcy at all times. Any little nudge can kick them over. So far, the nudge hasn't happened but there are a ton of outfits that are functionally bankrupt.

My alma mater is one of them. That school's general fund endowment cannot cover even one full semester of operating expenses (the worst-case scenario of zero tuition). It went on a building binge and a "program" binge and its books are *awful* despite radically escalating costs. They simply spend - and, importantly, *spent* - too much money. And it is not at all a situation unique to my school.

Countless mid-tier and low-tier private colleges are already financial zombies. It's amazing how broke everyone is given the amount of money sloshing around, but that is also a tale as old as time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:26 AM (6bTRc)

130 Flaming Skull Worthy:

I read the "birthright citizenship" decision. As I mentioned earlier, the issue in the case now concerns nationwide injunctions, not BRC on the merits.

ACB wrote the majority decision to which all the good guys signed on. Her decision includes some wishy-washy bullshit, but my takeway is that nationwide injunctions are basically dead.

As Thomas writes in his concurrence: "The Court today holds that federal courts may not issue so-called universal injunctions. I agree and join in full."

Yuge win for Trump! Link goes to SC opintion.

https://tinyurl.com/2r2nsejv

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (iFTx/)

131 Reality is if you’re applying for jobs online you’re not getting the job. AI or no AI. Those jobs either don’t really exist or you’re competing with 500 people.

Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (ORJZB)

132 He was just turning his life around.

Posted by: And enrolled in community college at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (XQo4F)

133 >>Your resume MUST have all the right words. Which means eventually the dimwits in the HR Industrial Complex will figure out they're getting bad candidates who use the same damn techniques they do, and will have to add more layers of idiocy to the hiring process.

Hell, if you followed the discourse about H1B fraud on X over Christmas, there are candidates who are using AI during Zoom interviews, entirely faking knowledge and experience on the spot.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (VVnrT)

134 The NYT wonders why men don't read novels. Well, the vast majority of novels published today are written by women and the vast majority of those suck donkey dongs.

https://is.gd/coJdQc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (L/fGl)

135 > The local state university literally charges more for engineering courses than other courses, because engineering degrees are actually valuable.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 27, 2025 11:13 AM (xTIDn)

Another reason that STEM courses often cost more is that they typically require expensive equipment. Organic chemistry labs, supercomputers, and concrete compression testers aren't free (the exception here would be most math, where all you need is a piece of chalk -- numerical methods (finite element analysis, Monte Carlo simulations, etc. also need computers, the faster the better).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (qpyNK)

136 Black fatigue is a deep revulsion for the racist cant that black people indulge in whenever there is a camera and microphone in front them… my take.

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (PCK5/)

137 the universities could commit any number of heinous crimes before the average college football or basketball fan would be willing to admit there is a problem

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (jGJov)

Penn State's fans seem to care more about winning football teams than child rape.

So... what's worse than that?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (L5An7)

138 Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'

That statement could be interpreted in a way other than what the family intended.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (Riz8t)

139 Interesting insights. I'm no big fan of the dissolution of the monasteries nor of Henry VIII.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 11:06 AM (2GCMq)

You're looking at it from a perspective almost 500 years removed from the event. Lots of things from the early 1500s look bad today.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (ExV1e)

140 Institutions that focus strictly on a "career path" already exist. They're called trade schools.

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Like the Florida College of Bridge Engineering?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (g8Ew8)

141 I could tell them you’re not learning it’s cheating blah blah. But reality is everyone’s doing it. Why put my kids at a disadvantage for some morality play? Don't hate the player hate the game.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:22 AM (ORJZB)

Cat's in the cradle...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (oXp8/)

142 ook learning will never exceed the importance of practical learning.
Posted by: polynikes

Ideally, they should reinforce each other.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)

143 Is that true? My college had placement tests at orientation to help people place out of the basic math and english classes. I used CLEP tests for a number of classes and all that was administered by the university. More students should take advantage of it though.
Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (jGJov)
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More common in colleges, but still not too common there (at least, it was on the way out when I attended in the mid aughts). Some courses allowed testing out, some didn't. They had systematized it to a point, in the form of AP credit. Pass your AP tests and you can skip some of the freshman courses.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (6bTRc)

144 The Post Millennial@TPostMillennial
Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (L/fGl)

Because white people NEVER would be indicted for murder if they pulled a knife out of their backpack and in cold blooded fashion stuck it right into a kid's heart.

Posted by: Nope, no white people get indicted for murder just blacks at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (TbWk/)

145 ACB wrote the majority decision to which all the good guys signed on.
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Alito and Thomas?

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (rCia8)

146 Jeez, I never thought about it that way, but you could. AIs can't do real jobs, but they can write academic. Just recycle all the bullshit journals, it's enough training material to last a thousand years.

We could ignore them at a scale never previously imagined.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 27, 2025 11:29 AM (MX0bI)

147 143 More common in colleges, but still not too common there (at least, it was on the way out when I attended in the mid aughts). Some courses allowed testing out, some didn't. They had systematized it to a point, in the form of AP credit. Pass your AP tests and you can skip some of the freshman courses.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (6bTRc)

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I started my undergrad as a Junior because of all the AP and IB tests I had taken.

I really should have gotten a better degree, though.

I could be a nuclear engineer now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

148 Completely unrelated:

What's black fatigue?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

People tired of the bullshit where EVERYTHING is whitey's fault, no matter what. Racism when & where it's not. Thug behavior everywhere always.
Living up to stereotypes.

Rachet assed people.
Rachet assed people - only goes one way - racism.
Always claiming racism.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 11:29 AM (flKEw)

149 >>A desire to be mentally ill might be worse than actually being mentally ill.

It's how straight, white girls can claim victimhood and DEI membership. I'm neurodivergent, b#tchezz, stop calling me Becky!!

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:29 AM (VVnrT)

150 145 ACB wrote the majority decision to which all the good guys signed on.
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Alito and Thomas?
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (rCia

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Yeah, they wrote separate concurrences (also Kav wrote one).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)

151 Hell, if you followed the discourse about H1B fraud on X over Christmas, there are candidates who are using AI during Zoom interviews, entirely faking knowledge and experience on the spot.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (VVnrT)

Heh, thankfully I had other ways I spent my Christmas holidays.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:29 AM (dGCAG)

152 I can see real colleges going back to the Blue Book system of my yout in the near future.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (zb+I1)
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Blue books worked well. I did feel bad for my profs, though. My handwriting sucks.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (6bTRc)

153 It was a mostly peaceful stabbing.

Posted by: CNN at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (XQo4F)

154 Every day, you pope-sucking bead-rattling mackerel snapping indulgence dealer!
Posted by: If you're gonna do it go all the way

My indulgences are hidden behind my borrowed Jooo Space Laser! How did you know???

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (mlg/3)

155 What's black fatigue?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

A stealth uniform for commandos.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (MX0bI)

156 I like how all the media is describing the books as "LGBT storybooks."

Yeah, in the way that Hustler is an illustrated anatomy textbook.

They were graphic pornography force-fed to children.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (GnVQ5)

157 Will AI replace ACE?
Posted by: pudinhead

Dude, it's artificial intelligence, not artificial Moron.

That would be funny- Ace lets ChatGPT write some posts on a slow news day.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (KHLXg)

158 > I used CLEP tests for a number of classes and all that was administered by the university

Yeah, I CLEPed out of (I think) 30 semester hours of courses when I was a freshman, way back in the Paleolithic. That's basically a year of college that I didn't have to pay for (there was a fee for the tests, but it wasn't much).

Does that program still exist?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (qpyNK)

159 Because white people NEVER would be indicted for murder if they pulled a knife out of their backpack and in cold blooded fashion stuck it right into a kid's heart.
Posted by: Nope, no white people get indicted for murder just blacks at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (TbWk/)

He would have had to have a knife in his backpack if it wasn't for The System.

What this "Rep" is doing is essentially the OJ Play. Hope he gets off scot free due to a poisonous racist jury.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (rCia8)

160 Why does the Supreme Court have heels and babyfaces?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (VAINm)

161 These are self-reported diagnoses, so take that for what it's worth. The victim mentality could account for a significant percentage lying about or embellishing their mental health history.

https://tinyurl.com/mvj5k5j
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

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A desire to be mentally ill might be worse than actually being mentally ill.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:21 AM (GBKbO)
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Correct. I also wouldn't discount the fact that there's been an explosion of mental-health "services" that are hunting for -- and creating -- clients. Normal, usual bouts of disappointment or even general non-pathological depression are being pumped up to serious illnesses requiring treatment. But have no fear! For $300 a hour, you can talk to this hack to help you!

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)

162 T-accounting?

Accounting for taste?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (ufFY8)

163 My boy!

Posted by: Edgar Rice Burroughs at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (MDua2)

164 131 Reality is if you’re applying for jobs online you’re not getting the job. AI or no AI. Those jobs either don’t really exist or you’re competing with 500 people.

Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (ORJZB)

True...especially if you're not "cheating" to get your resume seen. You're just getting kicked out at the start.

Honestly, businesses may need to go back to in person hiring events to talk to people and test them if they want to actually get non-North Korean employees (the story also talked about how they broke the system and got so many of their folks in by knowing the AI)...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (tOcjL)

165 Also, I don't think I've had mackerel... They must taste like infidel.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (mlg/3)

166 159 He would have had to have a knife in his backpack if it wasn't for The System.

What this "Rep" is doing is essentially the OJ Play. Hope he gets off scot free due to a poisonous racist jury.
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (rCia

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Nah.

I hope he gets the death sentence in Texas.

The whole, "I'm black and can do what I want because whitey is mean to me by microaggression," needs to die out, and putting Anthony in the chair (or whatever TX uses) will be a great signal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

167 I would agree. Actual mental illness, such as clinical depression, OCD, schizophrenia, PTSD, sucks ass. I'd give my left nut to ditch clinical depression and other shit I have to deal with. Anyone who's experienced these DOES NOT WANT IT and I piss on anyone who fakes and pretends for attention.
Posted by: No you aren't triggered or "feeling" OCD right now

I agree, except maybe for the OCD. I never worried about catching COVID because I'm a germaphobe who is constantly washing his hands. But depression sucks big time.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (77rzZ)

168 Well, the vast majority of novels published today are written by women and the vast majority of those suck donkey dongs.

And the books written by men are dismissed. Especially if they are problematic.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (BpO1e)

169 Hell, if you followed the discourse about H1B fraud on X over Christmas, there are candidates who are using AI during Zoom interviews, entirely faking knowledge and experience on the spot.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (VVnrT)
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My current employer had a way to deal with that.

First was a phone/zoom interview. If they decided to bring you back for a second round, it was on-site. If the candidate was far away, they flew him in. The second round was an all-day, in-person marathon. Half a dozen interviews back-to-back with every interested party from the head cheese down to the potential future co-workers. Then the candidate goes home and they talk about whether to make an offer.

Very hard to cheat that system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (6bTRc)

170 >>>They had systematized it to a point, in the form of AP credit. Pass your AP tests and you can skip some of the freshman courses.

I was in college about the same time. The placement tests served the same role as having taken AP in high school, for a placement test that took an hour. Made me glad that as a lazy HS senior I had skipped the AP classes when I got the same credit.

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (jGJov)

171 161 Correct. I also wouldn't discount the fact that there's been an explosion of mental-health "services" that are hunting for -- and creating -- clients. Normal, usual bouts of disappointment or even general non-pathological depression are being pumped up to serious illnesses requiring treatment. But have no fear! For $300 a hour, you can talk to this hack to help you!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)

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Everything's a racket.

I'm just gonna watch old Japanese movies instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (GBKbO)

172 So just watch it, you guys.

Western Lensman@WesternLensman
Chris Van Hollen: It's dangerous to attack the press because they are “The Truth Tellers.”
This was said on MSNBC.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (L/fGl)

173 Hell, if you followed the discourse about H1B fraud on X over Christmas, there are candidates who are using AI during Zoom interviews, entirely faking knowledge and experience on the spot.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (VVnrT)

I’ve seen this several times interviewing people. It’s so obvious too. I end the interview right there.

And it’s not exclusive to h1bs.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (ORJZB)

174 >>The NYT wonders why men don't read novels.

Because they prefer history and philosophy?

Weren't they just demonizing young men who've embraced Greek philosophy texts (Bronze Age Pervert) as "white nationalists?"

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (VVnrT)

175 131 Reality is if you’re applying for jobs online you’re not getting the job. AI or no AI. Those jobs either don’t really exist or you’re competing with 500 people.

Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (ORJZB)

This is very true. It's not what you know it's who you blow. Er, who you know. I didn't learn this lesson because I believed/hoped competence would carry the day, being introverted and nerdy as I am. That's a negative ghost rider. My desire to want this to be the case blinded me to the reality that I should've spent more time cultivating connections. And for this failing I cratered.

Posted by: Being good at what you do isn't enough at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (TbWk/)

176 Blue books worked well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (6bTRc)

I dont recall any other way I took a test.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (L5An7)

177 Eric is a Swedish Fish of a weather vane but...

@EWErickson 14m
Gonna go with "Barretslap" for what Amy Coney Barrett did to the dimwit's dissent.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (mlg/3)

178 Does that program still exist?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Yes. Most colleges have it but each one seems to have a set list of what they accept and don't.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (BpO1e)

179 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

Are you saying nah it's not the OJ Play or nah he will be found guilty?

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (rCia8)

180 145 ACB wrote the majority decision to which all the good guys signed on.
---------

Alito and Thomas?

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (rCia

If she wrote it, it's probably a mushy opinion, unless it's 5-4 and not 6-3...and even then...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (tOcjL)

181 Won't the predicted college collapse be almost entirely private colleges? I can't see states not continuing to support state schools.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (jc0TO)

182 When the universities crumble, professors will become monks

Posted by: Eromero at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (jgmnb)

183 >>And it’s not exclusive to h1bs.

Not surprised to hear that, sadly.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (VVnrT)

184 Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (ORJZB)

It's how some parts of the world works.

Other parts work differently, and if you aren't sending your resume electronically, you don't exist. Don't walk in the door and introduce yourself, security will escort you out.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (dGCAG)

185 56
‘ about.

RICHARD III DID NOT KILL THE PRINCES IN THE TOWER!!!’

Are you sure? Because there’s always been a certain smell right there.

Posted by: Henry VIII at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (jbnUc)

186 I can see real colleges going back to the Blue Book system of my yout in the near future.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (zb+I1)
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Blue books worked well. I did feel bad for my profs, though. My handwriting sucks.

That problem can be addressed easily. Simply hand out a laptop with nothing but Word on it to each student as they enter the testing hall, and collect them when they leave.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (Riz8t)

187 Trump calling a press conference to take a SCOTUS victory lap.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (G0vdT)

188 145 ACB wrote the majority decision to which all the good guys signed on.
---------

Alito and Thomas?
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (rCia
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Yeah, they wrote separate concurrences (also Kav wrote one).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:29 AM (GBKbO)
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Alito wrote three pages of text, iirc, while Jackson wrote a novel, and even cited aliens at one point. She's a nut.

Sotomayor went on at length as well but mostly missed the point of the ruling and focused instead on birthright citizenship.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (Ijr8/)

189 >>>Why does the Supreme Court have heels and babyfaces?

I'm still waiting for Roberts face turn. Maybe at Summerslam this year.

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (jGJov)

190 79 My wife is a Professor at a State University. A couple years ago she started seeing AI generated work and weeded out the cheaters like she would a plagiarist. Nowadays it is almost impossible unless the student uses really stupid prompts and doesn't look over the work. For example, one paper started with the sentence..."Van Gogh and Picasso were contemporaries in the early 20th century...". But for the most part, it's a lost cause.

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Or stop accepting typed essays and require they be handwritten.
In class.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (GnVQ5)

191 Mackerel is pretty meh… okay in fried patties, but salmon is much better… I grilled a king mackerel I caught once.. it was just okay…

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (PCK5/)

192 168 Well, the vast majority of novels published today are written by women and the vast majority of those suck donkey dongs.

And the books written by men are dismissed. Especially if they are problematic.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (BpO1e)

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I've managed to write a couple more pages of a book this morning. Slow going. Started more than a year ago.

My enthusiasm has waned. My drive, diminished.

But, I keep thinking about how I have literally three other books I've shown to no more than my mother on my hard drive (one of them, I haven't even shown to her yet), all within striking distance of self-publishing, and I say, "Get your ass to work, dumbass."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)

193 ook learning will never exceed the importance of practical learning.
Posted by: polynikes

Ideally, they should reinforce each other.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (77rzZ)

I agree in that book learning (theoretical teaching) can give one a base to start but once you start its all about hands on. Rarely will anyone refer back to their text books once they get into the real world.

This is not a chicken or the egg question. Practical learning came before books

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (VofaG)

194 Retards must be so proud to be represented by a black female on the Supreme Court. What great pride there must be every time she belches out another half masticated piece of stupidity.

Posted by: Vengeance at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (ptAPo)

195 The author linked doesn't even think to what happened overseas from England.

Maybe the author just doesn't care.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (ExV1e)

196 "...but for STEM / accounting / architecture type fields of study, the degree has still retained its legitimacy."

I instinctively agreed with this sentiment, but I wonder how it can be more explicitly justified. What would be a valid "..., because..." phrase added to it?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (PQOq3)

197 re: the Karmelo Anthony case; I think the local DA handled it very well. They didn't talk a lot about it, didn't go to the papers, leading to a lot of internet talk about "oh they aren't doing anything, no one cares!" Hardly. They took the case to a Grand Jury, got a rock solid indictment for Murder, and from rumors about the grand jury testimony (which is secret) it looks like they've built a rock solid case. It was nicely done.
One rumor is that Carmelo confessed to murder at the scene to a law enforcement officer, who testified before the grand jury. And if that is so, very smart of that officer to talk to no one EXCEPT the DA and the Grand Jury.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (uWKK8)

198 180 145 ACB wrote the majority decision to which all the good guys signed on.
---------

Alito and Thomas?

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:28 AM (rCia

If she wrote it, it's probably a mushy opinion, unless it's 5-4 and not 6-3...and even then...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (tOcjL)
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Um no, she went all gansta on KBJ.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (G0vdT)

199 >>>Won't the predicted college collapse be almost entirely private colleges? I can't see states not continuing to support state schools.

YOU BETTER NOT TOUCH MY COLLEGE FOOTBALL!!

SEC!!! SEC!!!!

Posted by: Drunk man in jorts who did not attend the university at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (jGJov)

200 The best part of the 6-3 decision written by ACB is here complete take down of Jackson. She basically calls her stupid

i/o
@avidseries
"We will not dwell on Justice Jackson's argument, which is at odds with more than two centuries' worth of precedent, not to mention the Constitution itself. We observe only this: Justice Jackson decries an imperial Executive while embracing an imperial Judiciary."

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (t/2Uw)

201 Trump calling a press conference to take a SCOTUS victory lap.
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (G0vdT)
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Over what? I am shortly announcing significant limitations to the SCOTUS decision.

Posted by: President James Boasberg at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (Ijr8/)

202 179 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:31 AM (GBKbO)

Are you saying nah it's not the OJ Play or nah he will be found guilty?
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (rCia

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The guilty part.

He needs to be put down by the state for the good of society.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

203 Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

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There's a lot of truth in this

Posted by: 2009Refugee at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (8tFt2)

204 Ask AI if Fordow was obliterated by our MOPs…. Bias demonstrated?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (lepZb)

205 That problem can be addressed easily. Simply hand out a laptop with nothing but Word on it to each student as they enter the testing hall, and collect them when they leave.
Posted by: Archimedes

Hardwire a tablet like device into every desk without any wifi or USB connection.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (mlg/3)

206 FYI
Ace is on this stuff already on X.
This will be a historic day. I predict flaming skulls.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (t/2Uw)

207 Birthright citizenship case dropped?
Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (Hxfl9)

The decision which arose from the appeal of the injunction in the birthright citizenship case was released today, yes. District courts may not make universal injunctions unless the plaintiff is a State.

The actual question of birthright citizenship hasn't been argued yet.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (ExV1e)

208 Thx Buck. Skip AI, go directly to brain implants and downloads . I really want to be Neo

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (pwtJC)

209 206 FYI
Ace is on this stuff already on X.
This will be a historic day. I predict flaming skulls.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (t/2Uw)

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He's respecting the morning schedule.

He'll probably post at 12 on the dot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (GBKbO)

210 My current employer had a way to deal with that.

First was a phone/zoom interview. If they decided to bring you back for a second round, it was on-site. If the candidate was far away, they flew him in. The second round was an all-day, in-person marathon. Half a dozen interviews back-to-back with every interested party from the head cheese down to the potential future co-workers. Then the candidate goes home and they talk about whether to make an offer.

Very hard to cheat that system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:32 AM (6bTRc)

But you lose all the good folks at the resume screening and 1st zoom interview, so you're only bringing in the crap cheaters.

Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (tOcjL)

211 >>Blue books worked well.

>>Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (6bTRc)

>>I dont recall any other way I took a test.

Where do you want to go to dinner tonight?

This is a test.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:37 AM (viF8m)

212 Blue books.

"But, oh no, I'll have to read bad handwriting!"

*points to elementary schools*

The rot is deep. Any desire to actually fix it requires a lot of effort.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:05 AM

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Came here to say this. I come from a time when tests were blue books. You go to class and hand write what you have learned about a subject.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 27, 2025 11:37 AM (f1kZG)

213 Reality is if you’re applying for jobs online you’re not getting the job. AI or no AI. Those jobs either don’t really exist or you’re competing with 500 people.

Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (ORJZB)
++++
This is true in part. Much, much easier to have an "in." I got several jobs during my career thanks to an "in."

When I got laid off, most of my network collapsed, too. I had to do it the hard way - applying to job postings (online, through recruiters, in person at some local businesses, etc.). I ended up finding one thing through a personal connection and two through job applications on the web (I went from famine to feast, thankfully - I got three offers in two days).

Mixed bag. Most of the job applications fall into the void, but some are real. Damn hard to differentiate. The ones from job applications, though, were not through aggregators. I *found* the position through the aggregators, but went and applied directly on the company's website by hunting through the "careers" page and finding it. I got zero calls from applications *through* an aggregator.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:37 AM (6bTRc)

214 FYI
Ace is on this stuff already on X.
This will be a historic day. I predict flaming skulls.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (t/2Uw)
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See my comment above. Yuge win for Trump on national injunctions.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:37 AM (iFTx/)

215 Is Justice Jackson too stupid to notice that Barrett called her a fool? Magic AI says “ Yes” when you shake it….

Posted by: tubal at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (PCK5/)

216 184 Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (ORJZB)

It's how some parts of the world works.

Other parts work differently, and if you aren't sending your resume electronically, you don't exist. Don't walk in the door and introduce yourself, security will escort you out.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:33 AM (dGCAG)

Well yeah, the Boomer formula of "just walk right in, look them in the eyes, give 'em a firm handshake and you'll get the job" is insane nonsense. But if you have connections there and can use those connections to get your resume actually viewed by a human, and get a human to advocate for you to get an interview, you'll have a Lizzo-sized leg up on everyone else.

Posted by: BUT I'M GOOD WITH PEOPLE GODDAMMIT!!! at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (TbWk/)

217 I can see real colleges going back to the Blue Book system of my yout in the near future.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 27, 2025 11:23 AM (zb+I1)
++++
Blue books worked well. I did feel bad for my profs, though. My handwriting sucks.
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This is why God invented graduate students.

Posted by: Professors already on vacation at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (Ijr8/)

218 Birthright citizenship case dropped?
Posted by: torabora at June 27, 2025 11:15 AM (Hxfl9)

The decision which arose from the appeal of the injunction in the birthright citizenship case was released today, yes. District courts may not make universal injunctions unless the plaintiff is a State.

The actual question of birthright citizenship hasn't been argued yet.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (ExV1e)
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See my comment above

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)

219 Won't the predicted college collapse be almost entirely private colleges? I can't see states not continuing to support state schools.
Posted by: toby928
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I'm sure some state schools can't plug the hole on all federal money, if it was withdrawn. Just capping admin costs at 15% on grants was estimated to cost nearly $60 million at the state school in my city.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (ITkJX)

220 Sotomayor went on at length as well but mostly missed the point of the ruling and focused instead on birthright citizenship.

She is clearly upset that the decision makes it harder for her to justify her preconceived decision that BRC is fine.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (Riz8t)

221 Or stop accepting typed essays and require they be handwritten.
In class.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (GnVQ5)
++++
You just described a blue book exam!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (6bTRc)

222 218 See my comment above
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (iFTx/)

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YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (GBKbO)

223 And black fatigue? It's not just for crackers.

Even non thug ghetto blacks are tired of it because it reinforces the stereotypes and everything they've done to overcome the ghetto.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 11:39 AM (flKEw)

224 221 Or stop accepting typed essays and require they be handwritten.
In class.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (GnVQ5)
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You just described a blue book exam!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (6bTRc)

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He was imagining a green cover, though.

Totally different.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

225 >Ask AI if Fordow was obliterated by our MOPs…. Bias demonstrated?
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Copilot says

While President Trump declared the site “completely and totally obliterated,” preliminary U.S. intelligence assessments suggest the strikes caused moderate to severe damage but may not have fully destroyed...

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)

226 Blue books worked well.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

One of the most painful exams I took. Writing for 1.5 hours is a bear.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:39 AM (mlg/3)

227 I agree in that book learning (theoretical teaching) can give one a base to start but once you start its all about hands on. Rarely will anyone refer back to their text books once they get into the real world.

This is not a chicken or the egg question. Practical learning came before books
Posted by: polynikes

Becoming proficient in a foreign language (both speaking and writing) requires both types of learning.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:39 AM (77rzZ)

228 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (uWKK

Don't they have video of thew murder or was that misreported?

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)

229 But you lose all the good folks at the resume screening and 1st zoom interview, so you're only bringing in the crap cheaters.
Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:36 AM (tOcjL)
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Often true, yes. If the personnel department is using AI to screen resumes, many people wind up boned right from the start. If the personnel department is competent, it's less of a problem.

But there is no way to know how the company is handling its frontline screening.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (6bTRc)

230 how many RCHs' distance is there between 'severely' and 'completely' destroyed?

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (AOsQT)

231 It struck many at the time as an unthinkable outrage, but in retrospect dissolving the monasteries was almost the most obvious move that Henry VIII could make. They had made themselves his political enemies, the domestic allies of his adversaries abroad: thus, by dissolving them, he crushed a hostile power centre.

Wow! Certainly no blinkered Protestant bias there! This is a grotesquely distorted synopsis of the execrable Henry's motives, and overlooks the fact that this libidinous narcissistic scoundrel is the one who drove Catholics into the arms of his foreign adversaries. Henry VIII makes me wish the Armada had succeeded.

Posted by: Paco at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (mADJX)

232 Mr. Carter goes on to discuss how AI is being used so extensively now by college students that there is almost no way to determine to what extent, if any, students are learning or doing any actual studying or writing.

Well, there is a way.

You could assign students to write anti-Semitic or racist papers, then AI would be unable to write them.

It is only able to write papers critical of white, Christian males.

Posted by: Problem Solved at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (WFNbD)

233 Theory:

Jackson on SCOTUS is going to make the court more right-leaning over time as the rest get fucking sick and tired of her bullshit.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (GBKbO)

234 Don't they have video of thew murder or was that misreported?
Posted by: polynikes

Supposedly they do. But it's not been released.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (flKEw)

235 226 Blue books worked well.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

One of the most painful exams I took. Writing for 1.5 hours is a bear.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:39 AM (mlg/3)

Done 3-4 hours before. Cast. Iron. Bitch.

Posted by: Hand cramps? I'll show you hand cramps! at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (TbWk/)

236 Came here to say this. I come from a time when tests were blue books. You go to class and hand write what you have learned about a subject.

I've said it here before, but at some point, every open book or device in the world isn't going to help you. I reached that point in grad school. You either understood the material or you didn't.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (Riz8t)

237 This busty brunette in her underwear *hated* blue book exams:
http://tiny.cc/z94o001

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (6bTRc)

238 Don't they have video of thew murder or was that misreported?
Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM

The kid brought a knife to a track meet.

He's boned.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (jc0TO)

239 It's a Tater twofold!

Brian Stelter@brianstelter
With Trump pushing for firings and Hegseth insulting journalists to their faces, today's @ReliableSources lead is about reporting versus cheerleading

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (L/fGl)

240 228 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (uWKK

Don't they have video of thew murder or was that misreported?
Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)

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It has been reported that there is video of the attack, that the video does not show the victim approaching or touching Anthony at all before the attack.

This video has not been seen outside the grand jury, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)

241 Universities have nothing to worry about.

As long as there's Division I football.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (MDua2)

242 Also 6-3 decision written by Alito allowing parents to opt out of lgbtq lessons and upholding parental,rights.
Take that stupid Montgomery County. Your recalcitrance has cost you the issue. Hah!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (t/2Uw)

243 @brianstelter
With Trump pushing for firings and Hegseth insulting journalists to their faces, today's @ReliableSources lead is about reporting versus cheerleading
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (L/fGl)
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The jokes write themselves.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (6bTRc)

244 Well yeah, the Boomer formula of "just walk right in, look them in the eyes, give 'em a firm handshake and you'll get the job" is insane nonsense. But if you have connections there and can use those connections to get your resume actually viewed by a human, and get a human to advocate for you to get an interview, you'll have a Lizzo-sized leg up on everyone else.
Posted by: BUT I'M GOOD WITH PEOPLE GODDAMMIT!!! at June 27, 2025 11:38 AM (TbWk/)

Yeah, I was never interested in being a salesman anyway. I know nothing about aluminum siding or industrial latex.

The hardy handshake, and the Zig Ziglar attitude has never helped me find work.

I did get one job through a connection, but that was almost entirely by accident.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (dGCAG)

245 TJM, I think you may be right about how the court responds to Jackson’s bullshit.

Posted by: Open Channel D at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (gYnrv)

246
Or stop accepting typed essays and require they be handwritten.
In class.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

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Hidden earpiece dictates entire essay.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (HuRzZ)

247 Or stop accepting typed essays and require they be handwritten.
In class.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

In cursive? Fortunately, I've been diagnosed with Handwriting and Speech Anxiety Disorder and am allowed to interact strictly thru email.

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (6pVrF)

248 66 Study shows that 56% of younger liberal women have been diagnosed with a mental illness. Tell me something else I don't know. They also suffer much greater levels of anxiety and depression. This study is making news now, even though it was published in 2020.
____

Here's a thought, that will likely piss some people off. Stop trying to be a man, i.e. provider, decider, self-sufficient, (girl-)boss. It turns men off when you don't need them (men need women too, it's meant to be mutual) and no one is happy.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (Dv3i1)

249
And good morning!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (HuRzZ)

250 Trump news comference now.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (t/2Uw)

251 CLEP test failure?

Penicillin.

Posted by: Your doctor at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (XQo4F)

252

Iran raid and cease fire
Nato summit
Economy
SCOTUS

Damn, Trump had a tremendous week.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (G0vdT)

253 YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Then tell me who is RIGHT NOW!
-- Foot-tapping Karen with her arms crossed

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (77rzZ)

254 245 TJM, I think you may be right about how the court responds to Jackson’s bullshit.
Posted by: Open Channel D at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (gYnrv)

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With both ACB and Alito shitting on her in the decision and the concurrence, it's obvious that her loud-mouthed, non-stop talking in service of abject idiocy is not helping her cause at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (GBKbO)

255 Yes, little one, we have a "blue-book" section.

Posted by: Purple-haired Librarian at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (MDua2)

256
250 Trump news comference now.

LINK!!!!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (HuRzZ)

257 Did he plan on doing sone whittlin?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (VAINm)

258 John Carter's "Postcards from Barsoom" is very much worth following.

Posted by: pawn at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (QB+5g)

259 Ace will only be replaced by AE, Artificial Ewok

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (pwtJC)

260 253 YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Then tell me who is RIGHT NOW!
-- Foot-tapping Karen with her arms crossed
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:43 AM (77rzZ)

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You are. You've been my supervisor this whole time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (GBKbO)

261
(I'm at White House .gov but it's not yet?)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (HuRzZ)

262 > Blue books worked well.
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I doubt many students today have the ability to, you know, actually write.

Give them several blank sheets of paper, a typewriter and see what sort of drivel comes out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (Q4IgG)

263 The rot begins in grades 1 through 12. This is when kids should be learning the basic knowledge and skills needed to think, evaluate, and express themselves effectively. The classical education of earlier times which provides the foundation for future learning. (See Dorothy Sayers' "Lost Tools of Learning".) Universities or smaller, more specialized institutions, are where the details of a field should be acquired whether it's literature, engineering, or some other discipline.

i don't know if this is possible on a national level. Certainly not while teachers unions have political power. But it seems to be why home schooling, less likely to follow BS trends in education, has been so effective.

Posted by: JTB at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (yTvNw)

264 Though, my Asian Art History exam was fun because I remembered quotes from the Prof about painting in the Chinese style. A+ mrf'rs!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (mlg/3)

265 Wow! Certainly no blinkered Protestant bias there! This is a grotesquely distorted synopsis of the execrable Henry's motives, and overlooks the fact that this libidinous narcissistic scoundrel is the one who drove Catholics into the arms of his foreign adversaries. Henry VIII makes me wish the Armada had succeeded.
Posted by: Paco at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (mADJX)
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I just have to note for the record my shock there is no mention in this overwrought paragraph of longbows, Ginger, or the War Between The States. Or boobs.

Posted by: Professors already on vacation at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (Ijr8/)

266 Red books >> blue books >> Little Red Book

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (ufFY8)

267
Did I just read on Free Beacon that the B2 bomber pilot was a girl?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:45 AM (HuRzZ)

268 262 > Blue books worked well.
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I doubt many students today have the ability to, you know, actually write.

Give them several blank sheets of paper, a typewriter and see what sort of drivel comes out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (Q4IgG)

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"Your final exam will be a blue book. You will have to write several thousand words, legibly. If I can't read it, I won't be able to accurately determine your knowledge of the subject and I will fail you. You have 3 months to ensure you can write legibly and for that long. Now, on to the syllabus for the semester."
-Day 1

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:45 AM (GBKbO)

269 >Damn, Trump had a tremendous week.

Posted by: WisRich
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all it took was a President with cognitive abilities

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 11:45 AM (AOsQT)

270 I enjoyed writing blue-book essays. Could run my mouth off to my heart's content.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:45 AM (77rzZ)

271 >>Damn, Trump had a tremendous week.

Two scoops worthy.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (viF8m)

272 But there is no way to know how the company is handling its frontline screening.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (6bTRc)

Depends on the job, obviously. In the healthcare world, if you need a phlebotomist, you need to see their phlebotomy certification. If you need a morgue tech, you can probably get away with asking "you're not into having sex with dead bodies, are you?" as your first line of screening.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (dGCAG)

273 Thankfully the mission didn't require paralell parking.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (VAINm)

274
Give them several blank sheets of paper, a typewriter and see what sort of drivel comes out.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

================

Have you seen what happens when people under the age of 29 are given a sheet of paper and a typewriter?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (HuRzZ)

275 152
‘ Blue books worked well. I did feel bad for my profs, though. My handwriting sucks.’

Mine too. Particularly toward the end. My forearm felt like it had done a penmanship decathlon by then.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (jbnUc)

276 233 Theory:

Jackson on SCOTUS is going to make the court more right-leaning over time as the rest get fucking sick and tired of her bullshit.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM

I think Jumanji Jackson might be the first supreme court justice to actually physically assault another justice.

Posted by: Frank Barone at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (IifOV)

277 Apple News telling me SCOTUS allowing birth right citizen ship ban to hold?! If so, woohoo!

Posted by: Piper at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (p4NUW)

278 Rep for Karmelo Anthony's family says murder indictment is 'yet another example of what it means to be black in America'

If you cannot take a deadly weapon to a multi-school event, seek out a confrontation with a student from another school, and kill them... I just don't know what America has become.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (ExV1e)

279 276 I think Jumanji Jackson might be the first supreme court justice to actually physically assault another justice.
Posted by: Frank Barone at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (IifOV)

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It'll be Thomas.

She'll cry racism.

Roberts will protect her.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

280 @254 TJM , someone on X did a supercut of Jackson questioning litigants. It's over four minutes long and everything is a variation of "I'm just trying to understand". I practiced law long enough to know judges each have their own style, but this lady is a nitwit

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (pwtJC)

281 Have you seen what happens when people under the age of 29 are given a sheet of paper and a typewriter?

Christ on a cracker, what's so hard about this?

Posted by: Chicken doing quantum mechanics at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (Riz8t)

282 If the video shows what's been reported the Defense attorney is confirmed to be an idiot racist.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (VofaG)

283 >>I think Jumanji Jackson might be the first supreme court justice to actually physically assault another justice.

She's about 3 feet tall.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (viF8m)

284 AI is just doing the homework parents won't do.

Posted by: Polka will never die at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (I4CNo)

285 280 @254 TJM , someone on X did a supercut of Jackson questioning litigants. It's over four minutes long and everything is a variation of "I'm just trying to understand". I practiced law long enough to know judges each have their own style, but this lady is a nitwit
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (pwtJC)

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She apparently talks more than every other justice combined.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (GBKbO)

286 Brian Stelter@brianstelter
With Trump pushing for firings and Hegseth insulting journalists to their faces, today's @ReliableSources lead is about reporting versus cheerleading
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (L/fGl)
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This is Justice Jackson level writing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (J8edR)

287 Hidden earpiece dictates entire essay.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:42 AM (HuRzZ)

Which is prolly more effective than a butt plug tapping out Morse Code.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (dGCAG)

288 276 233 Theory:

Jackson on SCOTUS is going to make the court more right-leaning over time as the rest get fucking sick and tired of her bullshit.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM
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Heh, looks like ACB has had it with the Liberals.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (G0vdT)

289 176 Blue books worked well.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (6bTRc)

I dont recall any other way I took a test.
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We would go to State Unies during the summer to pick up easy credits. All State testing was a combo or multiple choice and true/false questions. Essay tests were much different and required broader knowledge and competency. Hint - always outline your answers so if you run out of time writing you will likely get full credit due to the outline. Learned that from a John Foster Dulles biography. It worked too.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (FmapG)

290 AI appears to make us dumber, so it is a cost effective alternative to college

Posted by: chicagovota at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (baPXJ)

291 267
Did I just read on Free Beacon that the B2 bomber pilot was a girl?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:45 AM (HuRzZ)

Yes, one of them was. This has specifically been avoided being discussed by DoD b/c so few B2 pilots are female, and they did not want a direct target on her back b/c of the possible safety risk to her (and obviously, she'd be a great target for a crazy Muslim Iranian to attack and then propagandize in the home country)...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (tOcjL)

292 I'm glad to see our viagra lady has full sleeves now. Her other sweater was bugging the hell out of me.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (VofaG)

293 "Or stop accepting typed essays and require they be handwritten.
In class."

She started doing that with quizzes for some classes.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (2cS/G)

294 "analyzing the statute involves boring legalese" --

Justice Kmanji Jackson in dissent

Posted by: Great Moments in Jurispriudence at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (jGJov)

295 Apple News telling me SCOTUS allowing birth right citizen ship ban to hold?! If so, woohoo!

.....

Don't celebrate too quickly.

They ruled the lower courts exceeded their authority, but they are still dodging ruling in the real issue.

Posted by: Problem Solved at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (WFNbD)

296 282 If the video shows what's been reported the Defense attorney is confirmed to be an idiot racist.
Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (VofaG)

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Defense attorney in this case should be just throwing themselves on the mercy of the court, assuming the described video is accurate.

But, systemic racism may be the best defense possible otherwise. Enough to get one potential juror to say, "That white boy had it coming." Probably a 67 year old white lady with an advanced degree from an Ivy League school.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

297 If the video shows what's been reported the Defense attorney is confirmed to be an idiot racist.
Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM

On the bright side, if their son gets life in prison, the family gets to keep all the donations, so they have that going for them.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (jc0TO)

298 Trump up.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (G0vdT)

299 Book learning will never exceed the importance of practical learning.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:25 AM (VofaG)

Karmelo Anthony was studying to be a thoracic surgeon.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (ExV1e)

300 In cursive.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (VAINm)

301 The primary social function of monastic lands was social welfare, hence the need for the state to resume that role after their marginalization. The primary capital of the monasteries and Church more broadly was from donated lands(in an agrarian world), not book copying.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (okun6)

302 When I was in school, we had to carve words into stone. Timed tests were a bitch!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Well, This Is Another Fine Mess You've Gotten Me Into at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (L/fGl)

303 Well look at that, Bondi is right there with Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (viF8m)

304 Henry VIII makes me wish the Armada had succeeded.
Posted by: Paco

No. Henry was a tyrant, no question. But the Spanish Hapsburgs were no bueno. Impoverished their country for centuries.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (77rzZ)

305 288 Heh, looks like ACB has had it with the Liberals.
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (G0vdT)

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"All my work! Wasted!"
-Kagan

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

306 >>I think Jumanji Jackson might be the first supreme court justice to actually physically assault another justice.

She's about 3 feet tall.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:47 AM (viF8m)
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My "most-likely-to-assault" bet is on Sotomayor. Her blood pressure medicine is the only think keeping her in her chair. Or maybe her clerks belt her in, I don't know.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 11:49 AM (J8edR)

307 I've managed to write a couple more pages of a book this morning. Slow going. Started more than a year ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I have a story I've been working on for the past year. Nothing ground breaking; just an idea I've had in mind for a while. I'm at page 70 and making myself think about what happens next.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (BpO1e)

308 "Thank you for your recent application. Your AI did such a good job that we have decided to give the position to ChatGPT."

Posted by: t-bird at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (6pVrF)

309 "Justice Jackson decries an imperial Executive while embracing an imperial Judiciary."

Great line. And it is not just "imperial Judiciary", it is Imperial District Court judges ... Hawaii judges hardest hit.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (vbXSk)

310 291 267
Did I just read on Free Beacon that the B2 bomber pilot was a girl?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:45 AM (HuRzZ)

Trump and Hegseth both referred to the men and wom(a)n who executed this mission, when they were excoriating marxist media tools.

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (dCxaZ)

311 >>> 192

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I've managed to write a couple more pages of a book this morning. Slow going. Started more than a year ago.

My enthusiasm has waned. My drive, diminished.

But, I keep thinking about how I have literally three other books I've shown to no more than my mother on my hard drive (one of them, I haven't even shown to her yet), all within striking distance of self-publishing, and I say, "Get your ass to work, dumbass."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)

What kind of asshole would talk to an employee that way?!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (ULPxl)

312 Trump's on thanking the judges, including Boney Carrot

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (pwtJC)

313 307 I have a story I've been working on for the past year. Nothing ground breaking; just an idea I've had in mind for a while. I'm at page 70 and making myself think about what happens next.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (BpO1e)

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I outline everything. Usually twice (at different levels of detail).

So, when I'm writing, there are no surprises or sudden stops because I don't know what happens next.

It works for me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)

314 I have a female coworker millennial who claims all kinds of disabilities and trauma…. She’s a fat pig. She’s obnoxious never stops talking and is strangely aggressive and a constant victim at the same time. Jumanji Jackson seems similar to her…. No one likes her. No one

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (FNvF+)

315
And black fatigue? It's not just for crackers.

Even non thug ghetto blacks are tired of it because it reinforces the stereotypes and everything they've done to overcome the ghetto.
Posted by: rickb223

===============

I've seen one of those fed-up Black people offer a useful clarification: ghetto fatigue.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (HuRzZ)

316 > 277 Apple News telling me SCOTUS allowing birth right citizen ship ban to hold?! If so, woohoo!
Posted by: Piper at June 27, 2025 11:46 AM (p4NUW)

Nope. Today's ruling, while in a birthright citizenship case, doesn't address that specific issue. It just prevents lower courts from issuing blanket, nationwide orders.

The actual birthright citizenship issue will need to be decided at a higher level.

Still, it's an awesome result. Judge Pakalolo Mahu in Whakatangihangaipukakapiki can no longer give orders to the entire country, just in his own jurisdiction. As it should have been all along.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (qpyNK)

317 311 What kind of asshole would talk to an employee that way?!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (ULPxl)

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An illiterate one!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (GBKbO)

318 >Have you seen what happens when people under the age of 29 are given a sheet of paper and a typewriter?

--

I saw a Youtube where some teenagers were staring at a rotary phone, and didn't know what to do with it

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (AOsQT)

319 (and obviously, she'd be a great target for a crazy Muslim Iranian to attack and then propagandize in the home country)

She's also a great target for Antifa and other anti-American elements that live here.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (BpO1e)

320 Correct. I also wouldn't discount the fact that there's been an explosion of mental-health "services" that are hunting for -- and creating -- clients. Normal, usual bouts of disappointment or even general non-pathological depression are being pumped up to serious illnesses requiring treatment. But have no fear! For $300 a hour, you can talk to this hack to help you!
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:30 AM (iFTx/)

Or create a problem that doesn't really exist. I witnessed a happy and pretty woman's destruction to an angry, bitter feminist bitch because of "modern" psychotherapy.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at June 27, 2025 11:52 AM (g8Ew8)

321 I was somewhat surprised that it was ACB that delivered the smackdown.

Posted by: Open Channel D at June 27, 2025 11:52 AM (gYnrv)

322 307 I've managed to write a couple more pages of a book this morning. Slow going. Started more than a year ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I have a story I've been working on for the past year. Nothing ground breaking; just an idea I've had in mind for a while. I'm at page 70 and making myself think about what happens next.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 11:50 AM (BpO1e)

You didn't pre-outline the major plot points (chanelling my Lit teaching husband now)...it's easier to keep yourself on track when you know the major points you want your story to hit and how you want it to end before you start fleshing it out...

Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:52 AM (tOcjL)

323 231
‘ Certainly no blinkered Protestant bias there! This is a grotesquely distorted synopsis of the execrable Henry's motives’

It’s an analogy. Not a personal attack on you or your church.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 27, 2025 11:52 AM (jbnUc)

324
Did, uh, any morons misjudge "Amy Coney Island"?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (HuRzZ)

325

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The FACT that six Justices were OK with signing onto an opinion where Justice Barrett took a personal shot at Justice Jackson is a VERY STRONG indication that Jackson has alienated her colleagues and there is a growing lack of respect for her work.

Justices circulate Memos among with their legal views on certain cases in order to bring others around to their thinking.

Given what she has written in her dissent, imagine the memos that Jackson must have sent around in this case.

Barrett aptly boils it down to a single point -- Jackson would elevate the primacy of single district judges about the Executive because they are "the court" in the separation of powers.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (t/2Uw)

326 >Have you seen what happens when people under the age of 29 are given a sheet of paper and a typewriter?

prob the same thing that happens when they're given a buggy whip.

Posted by: brak at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (jGJov)

327 316 Still, it's an awesome result. Judge Pakalolo Mahu in Whakatangihangaipukakapiki can no longer give orders to the entire country, just in his own jurisdiction. As it should have been all along.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (qpyNK)

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States may still be able to achieve universal injunctions (though that process is going to get abused and will probably end up getting slapped down at some point). Injunctions brought under the APA will be able to be universal, but that's fairly narrow.

Also, class action injunctions can happen, but building a class is difficult already, especially if members of the class object to the lawsuit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (GBKbO)

328 Well, he's right.

Chris Cuomo says Democratic Party 'dead,' after brother loses NY mayor primary to democrat-socialist

In contrast to many who were surprised by the NYC mayoral primary results Tuesday, Cuomo said he was not.

During a monologue on NewsNation, he said Democrats' reaction to MAGA has become socialism.

https://is.gd/kd6tsm

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (Riz8t)

329 . No one likes her. No one

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (FNvF+)

didn't the hiring manager look at her social media ahead of time??

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (dCxaZ)

330
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

Pam Bondi speaking now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (2GCMq)

331 321 I was somewhat surprised that it was ACB that delivered the smackdown.
Posted by: Open Channel D at June 27, 2025 11:52 AM (gYnrv)
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From the top rope!

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (G0vdT)

332 322 You didn't pre-outline the major plot points (chanelling my Lit teaching husband now)...it's easier to keep yourself on track when you know the major points you want your story to hit and how you want it to end before you start fleshing it out...
Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:52 AM (tOcjL)

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Stephen King doesn't outline shit and is one of the most successful writers in history.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (GBKbO)

333 And black fatigue? It's not just for crackers.

Even non thug ghetto blacks are tired of it because it reinforces the stereotypes and everything they've done to overcome the ghetto.
Posted by: rickb223

===============

I was happy to see UFC great Jon Jones is a huge Trump fan and loves America.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (VofaG)

334 > "I'm just trying to understand".

She can't even tell a man from a woman.

I'm thinking that there's very little that she does understand.

What state is she from again? I'm thinking the bar exam must be really easy there.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (qpyNK)

335 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 27, 2025 11:35 AM (uWKK

Don't they have video of thew murder or was that misreported?
Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM (VofaG)

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It has been reported that there is video of the attack, that the video does not show the victim approaching or touching Anthony at all before the attack.

This video has not been seen outside the grand jury, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
____

The video must be damning for this filthy scumbag, or else it would have been leaked already. I still don't think there's clarity as to what happened. I thought they were saying at one point the two kids did have a scuffle, but then Anthony left and came back with the knife. The video might be showing that part.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (iFTx/)

336 During a monologue on NewsNation, he said Democrats' reaction to MAGA has become socialism.

haha

he's living in Mirror Universe, obviously

it's exactly the other way around Chrissy Boo

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (dCxaZ)

337 >Did, uh, any morons misjudge "Amy Coney Island"?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia

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I for one am getting conflicting signals

Posted by: Don Black at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (AOsQT)

338 321 I was somewhat surprised that it was ACB that delivered the smackdown.

Posted by: Open Channel D at June 27, 2025 11:52 AM (gYnrv)

Girl fighting is the dirtiest kind of fighting...there's a reason it's called cat fighting. Have you ever known a cat to sheath its claws when attacking?

Posted by: Nova Local at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (tOcjL)

339 238
‘ The kid brought a knife to a track meet.

He's boned.’

The only way it goes south is if there are blacks or AWFLs on the jury.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 27, 2025 11:54 AM (jbnUc)

340 I hope he gets the death sentence in Texas.

Can't. He was under 18 at the time of the crime so SCOTUS said no death penalty.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (ExV1e)

341 >>> 288 276 233 Theory:

Jackson on SCOTUS is going to make the court more right-leaning over time as the rest get fucking sick and tired of her bullshit.

Discuss.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:40 AM
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Heh, looks like ACB has had it with the Liberals.
Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 11:48 AM (G0vdT)

They gave her a book deal and probably threatened her kids, but they forgot to warn her about the idiot cow orker she was going to have to put up with for the rest of her career.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (ULPxl)

342 LLMs (with proper reference databases and guardrails) are close to being ready to replace the instructors and that is when universities will be truly obsolete.

Imagine a personalized tutor who is infinitely patient and will review a concept endlessly until the student demonstrates sufficient understanding to progress. Even more important, a highly intelligent and engaged student can progress at their rate instead of sitting in class being bored to tears when the instructor goes over the conversions from English to Metric lengths for the 10th time (or was it the 50th time, I was asleep)..

Some industry certification tests have been adaptive for years, a highly qualified candidate will see a few difficult questions, a barely qualified one will see many more to determine if they make the cut score.

Posted by: Rick T at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (xeXUW)

343 Red books >> blue books >> Little Red Book
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (ufFY

***

Little Red Corvette >>>> Red books >> blue books >> Little Red Book

Posted by: Prince at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (ycs3a)

344 Bondi bringing it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (pwtJC)

345 Bondi is going off on rogue courts. Very nice.

I don't think some understand the impact of this ruling. It's huge.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (viF8m)

346 340 I hope he gets the death sentence in Texas.

Can't. He was under 18 at the time of the crime so SCOTUS said no death penalty.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (ExV1e)

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I can still hope.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

347 It’s an analogy. Not a personal attack on you or your church.

The analogy involved criticizing his church, calling it wealthy, elitist and no meaningfulness to society.

The analogy literally is comparing a rotten monastery system to a rotten university system.

So yes, it's literally attacking his church's history.

Posted by: Problem Solved at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (WFNbD)

348 It seems like it was not so long ago that you had to be smart to get into college.

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (cct0t)

349 > Did, uh, any morons misjudge "Amy Coney Island"?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:53 AM (HuRzZ)

Nah. It's like anyone else... I give her credit when she does good things and slag her off when she does bad things.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (qpyNK)

350 I can't write for shit but what I have written I outline the basic start, middle and end. Like I was summarizing the plot of a movie.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (VofaG)

351 Bondi is going off on rogue courts. Very nice.

I don't think some understand the impact of this ruling. It's huge.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (viF8m)
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See my comment above. But beware my "wishy-washy bullshit" concern. Alito has the same worries in his concurrence.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (iFTx/)

352 MAGA was a reaction to out of control anarcho-socialism/fascism

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (dCxaZ)

353 Here is the bigger problem. You still need people who can think...

That's the rub, in'nit? It seems like a self-evidently true statement but then so did "computers will never beat humans at chess" and "computers will never drive a car." The truth is that we really don't know what "to think" means.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (/y8xj)

354 ... No one likes her. No one
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at June 27, 2025 11:51 AM (FNvF+)
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Sucks to have one of those. Thankfully, I don't have one of those right now. We have one Zoomer girl on the team, but I have no idea what she does in her personal life or what she believes politically or whatever. She does her job and goes home. Excellent and refreshing.

Where I am, the worst are the older Zoomer/younger Milennial men. We have a couple real nasty, unpleasant types like the one you're describing. But my outfit is predominately male, so its unsurprising that the bad ones are mostly male, too.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (6bTRc)

355 Red books >> blue books >> Little Red Book
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 27, 2025 11:44 AM (ufFY

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IBM Redbooks?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:57 AM (6bTRc)

356 Mmm. A fine morning of listening to the olds rhapsodize about bluebooks.

Have you considered the possibility that AI cheating doesn't really matter?

Everyone here agrees that most of what is going on in education today is politicized bullshit, just leftist indoctrination.

So Little Johnny cheats on his Herstory of Lesbian Literature exam. Who cares? It's all a farce. Not doing the work is almost a moral obligation.

Posted by: Throw Another Shoe in the Machine at June 27, 2025 11:57 AM (GeOhA)

357 Judicial Injunction what's your function?

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 11:57 AM (VAINm)

358 I hate missing the Morning Rant sometimes...

Though I was in a meeting where this was somewhat relevant.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 27, 2025 11:57 AM (7fElN)

359 You are. You've been my supervisor this whole time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadiso

Mrs. Karen, McKaren, I sincerely apologize for the inappropriate behavior my of direct report, Mr. TheJamesMadison. He is illiterate and an asshole. I have directed him to undergo DEI training to make him aware of the white privilege inherent in his Prometheus fanboidom, and to completely delete his collection of Daily Daddario pics, accumulated on his company laptop and on company time, and to surrender any printousts of same to HR for destruction.

Sincerely,
Blug B. Bulg
President, Bulg Industries, Inc.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

360 274 ... "Have you seen what happens when people under the age of 29 are given a sheet of paper and a typewriter?"

I've seen this a few times. One reaction is 'what the hell is this thing?'. They just walk away. Another is fascination, like it is personal magic and very cool. There is one universal reaction. They can't believe the physical effort needed to use a manual typewriter compared to a computer keyboard.

Posted by: JTB at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (yTvNw)

361 My favorite Jackson quote, citing Martians and arguing the Constitution is meaningless if District judges can't order the President around.
------------------------------------

A Martian arriving here from another planet would see
these circumstances and surely wonder: “what good is the
Constitution, then?” What, really, is this system for protecting people’s rights if it amounts to this—placing the onus
on the victims to invoke the law’s protection, and rendering
the very institution that has the singular function of ensuring compliance with the Constitution powerless to prevent
the Government from violating it? “Those things Americans call constitutional rights seem hardly worth the paper
they are written on!”

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (J8edR)

362 Mmm. A fine morning of listening to the olds rhapsodize about bluebooks.

Have you considered the possibility that AI cheating doesn't really matter?

Everyone here agrees that most of what is going on in education today is politicized bullshit, just leftist indoctrination.

So Little Johnny cheats on his Herstory of Lesbian Literature exam. Who cares? It's all a farce. Not doing the work is almost a moral obligation.

For any class in which the test questions begin with "derive", that is not true.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (Riz8t)

363 359 Mrs. Karen, McKaren, I sincerely apologize for the inappropriate behavior my of direct report, Mr. TheJamesMadison. He is illiterate and an asshole. I have directed him to undergo DEI training to make him aware of the white privilege inherent in his Prometheus fanboidom, and to completely delete his collection of Daily Daddario pics, accumulated on his company laptop and on company time, and to surrender any printousts of same to HR for destruction.

Sincerely,
Blug B. Bulg
President, Bulg Industries, Inc.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (77rzZ)

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Bulg, you're supposed to back me, bruh!

Where's the brotherhood, bruh?!

Bruh?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (GBKbO)

364 I hope he gets the death sentence in Texas.

Can't. He was under 18 at the time of the crime so SCOTUS said no death penalty.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (ExV1e)

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I can still hope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)
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He might be spared the death penalty, but a fit young good-looking guy will be very popular in the showers ....

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (iFTx/)

365 That's the rub, in'nit? It seems like a self-evidently true statement but then so did "computers will never beat humans at chess" and "computers will never drive a car." The truth is that we really don't know what "to think" means.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 27, 2025 11:56 AM (/y8xj)
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Maybe. But we *do* know that computers can't do it.

Program a computer with the state of the art in aviation in, say, 1930. Ask it to design you the best airplane possible. It will. It will probably churn out a very clever monoplane with an excellent and reliable engine design.

But it won't figure out a jet engine for you. That would require an act of creation, and the computer can't do it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (6bTRc)

366 How long before Judge Murphy, or Boasberg, "rules" that none of today's SCOTUS judgments count because reasons?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (ULPxl)

367 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:57 AM (6bTRc)

Harvey Penick - Golf book

Some consider it the Bible of golf

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (VofaG)

368
MAGA was a reaction to out of control anarcho-socialism/fascism
Posted by: kallisto

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And here's what's funny: MAGA is actually normalcy. It's not a wild swing to the extreme other side of the pendulum. There's a term for that, isn't there? (runs to Chat GPT)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (HuRzZ)

369
amplitude

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 12:00 PM (HuRzZ)

370 Green Eggs and Ham was Orange.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 12:00 PM (VAINm)

371 Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (J8edR)

Dear Lord talk about educated beyond her intelligence

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 12:00 PM (rCia8)

372 > So yes, it's literally attacking his church's history.
Posted by: Problem Solved at June 27, 2025 11:55 AM (WFNbD)

Are you suggesting that the history of Catholic Church is free of abuses and should be immune to criticism? I'm going to have to differ with you there. The Catholics have done some truly shitty things in the past (as well as some truly wonderful things, of course).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 12:00 PM (qpyNK)

373 Ka-boom

Rabbit Barret:
JUSTICE JACKSON would do well to heed her own admonition: "(E )veryone, from the President on down, is bound by law." Ibid That goes for judges too.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (mlg/3)

374 >>> 371 Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (J8edR)

Dear Lord talk about educated beyond her intelligence
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 12:00 PM (rCia

Odds AI wrote that for her?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (ULPxl)

375 366 How long before Judge Murphy, or Boasberg, "rules" that none of today's SCOTUS judgments count because reasons?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (ULPxl)

========

There are some loopholes (states as parties was not addressed, explicitly, in the decision, APA questions remain, class actions are different).

So, there will be pushback.

But precedent is set. Trump has clearance to dismiss unlawful rulings. Higher courts will be more likely to hold to the SCOTUS precedent. And SCOTUS will turn around in a few months or so to clarify things, for sure.

Remember, this whole thing starts just, like, 4 months ago. It wasn't years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

376
I've managed to write a couple more pages of a book this morning. Slow going. Started more than a year ago.

My enthusiasm has waned. My drive, diminished.

But, I keep thinking about how I have literally three other books I've shown to no more than my mother on my hard drive (one of them, I haven't even shown to her yet), all within striking distance of self-publishing, and I say, "Get your ass to work, dumbass."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 11:34 AM (GBKbO)

I've run into that too. I have a lead on a dev ed, but no money to pay her. I could rely on beta readers and AI editing, but that's not free either. If the dev ed likes my book, I'd consider trying for an agent first to avoid self pub. Odds are against, though.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (0eaVi)

377 Cuomo is doing a fake "tack to the center" and the phony idea is he disavows and equivocates both maga AND "socialism". Meanwhile he will still be ONO by Dem Inc.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (rCia8)

378 Though I haven't read the majority opinion but, Thomas feeling the need to straight up state that the DCs were exceeding their authority in his concurrence, makes me think there is some squish in the ACB opinion.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (jc0TO)

379 MSM trying to downplay Birthright ruling in presser.

Posted by: WisRich at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (G0vdT)

380 I've seen this a few times. One reaction is 'what the hell is this thing?'. They just walk away. Another is fascination, like it is personal magic and very cool. There is one universal reaction. They can't believe the physical effort needed to use a manual typewriter compared to a computer keyboard.
Posted by: JTB at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (yTvNw)
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It *sucks* to type on a manual typewriter. The Selectric was a great invention.

This is also, by the way, why so many Unix commands are so baffling and arcane. It was because terseness was its own reward. Typing 'ls' instead of 'list' counts when you have to do it on an electromechanical teletype with heavy keys that feel like trying to push a knife into a railroad tie.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (6bTRc)

381 How long before Judge Murphy, or Boasberg, "rules" that none of today's SCOTUS judgments count because reasons?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (ULPxl)
______

See my comments above. There's enough wiggle room in the majority opinion for asshole judges to continue playing games with national injunctions. Alito's concurrence has the same worries as The Blade does.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (iFTx/)

382
So Little Johnny cheats on his Herstory of Lesbian Literature exam. Who cares? It's all a farce. Not doing the work is almost a moral obligation.
Posted by: Throw Another Shoe in the Machine

================

No, I'm seriously sorry about the loss we've been experiencing of an appreciation and understanding of great art. But that precedes AI of course.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (HuRzZ)

383 "in my profession of engineering I guarantee you that AI cannot prepare you to enter my world and do a decent job. "

Doing a decent job as a engineer is no longer a requirement in todays corporate, one-size-fits-all, technical environment.

I am surrounded by newly minted, 25-30 YO, Senior Principle Engineers and what not that now decide how things are to be done. While the not so special Associate and Senior engineers (that look like me) are given the shit jobs and can't get a decent raise because money is tight for some reason.

I am assured that these people are the best available.

Engineering in the US is pretty much doomed.

My company hired an ex-SpaceX guy, about 30 YO, as one of there upper tier dudes. He put out some recommendations on the reliability testing we needed to do for one of the radios we manufacture. I couldn't find any references to any of the things he had suggested.

I asked him in private point blank one day where he came up with these numbers and he sheepishly told me they came from Chat GPT. This guy is from Perdue.

Posted by: pawn at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (QB+5g)

384 Though I haven't read the majority opinion but, Thomas feeling the need to straight up state that the DCs were exceeding their authority in his concurrence, makes me think there is some squish in the ACB opinion.
Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (jc0TO)
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See my comments above. You'd be correct on that.

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (iFTx/)

385 I want to thank the stupid scrunt judge that thought she could over rule the Supreme Court. That was the icing on the smack down cake

Posted by: Ben Had at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (sJ4fj)

386 Cuomo is doing a fake "tack to the center" and the phony idea is he disavows and equivocates both maga AND "socialism". Meanwhile he will still be ONO by Dem Inc.
Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (rCia

Cuomo is going to split the opposition vote and let the commie muslim win.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)

387 >>> 375 366 How long before Judge Murphy, or Boasberg, "rules" that none of today's SCOTUS judgments count because reasons?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (ULPxl)

========

There are some loopholes (states as parties was not addressed, explicitly, in the decision, APA questions remain, class actions are different).

So, there will be pushback.

But precedent is set. Trump has clearance to dismiss unlawful rulings. Higher courts will be more likely to hold to the SCOTUS precedent. And SCOTUS will turn around in a few months or so to clarify things, for sure.

Remember, this whole thing starts just, like, 4 months ago. It wasn't years.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (GBKbO)

I was hoping more for an answer involving trebuchets or even helicopters, but that's a pretty good answer for an illiterate asshoe.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (ULPxl)

388 376 I've run into that too. I have a lead on a dev ed, but no money to pay her. I could rely on beta readers and AI editing, but that's not free either. If the dev ed likes my book, I'd consider trying for an agent first to avoid self pub. Odds are against, though.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (0eaVi)

======

I gave up completely on literary agents about 13 years ago.

Every single one of them said in their bios "Looking for unheard voices and underrepresented narratives," or whatever. Even the older white dudes.

No one would even write me back with more than a form letter.

So, self-publishing was my only option. Selling dozens of books.

Still, I write because I like it. I'd like to live on it, but that's never going to happen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

389 Bulg, you're supposed to back me, bruh!

Where's the brotherhood, bruh?!

Bruh?!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I'm simply following my instructions from Chairman of the Board Doof D. Doof.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (77rzZ)

390 The problem here is that the AI's input is, for now, only as good as the training data; they haven't demonstrated any models (or any other non-LLM system) that is capable of cutting through bullshit.

This is a serious problem because the quality of the internet after the two big waves of post-2016 and post-2020 censorship is just.. awful. An actual human who knows how to dig can get info that is lightyears beyond what some bot can scrape, or some tech-deficient zoomer can manage.

Posted by: heya at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (bUBn/)

391 And here's what's funny: MAGA is actually normalcy. It's not a wild swing to the extreme other side of the pendulum. There's a term for that, isn't there? (runs to Chat GPT)

Yes.

cf. Trump's cabinet HHS secretary and DNI head. Neither of whom was ever GOP-curious in their lives. And of course DOGE maestro, I guess you could call him libertarian but definitely not conservative

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (dCxaZ)

392 378 I was hoping more for an answer involving trebuchets or even helicopters, but that's a pretty good answer for an illiterate asshoe.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (ULPxl)

======

I just bang on the keyboard until the red squiggles go away.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

393 MAGA would load no healthy people into nursing homes filled with disease, and socialism would do it to everyone, but Cuomo is a "centrist" so he would only do it to a few hundred thousand.

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 12:04 PM (rCia8)

394 > heavy keys that feel like trying to push a knife into a railroad tie.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 12:02 PM (6bTRc)

Carpal tunnel syndrom is an occupational hazard for programmers in exactly the same way that black lung disease is an occupational hazard for coal miners.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 12:04 PM (qpyNK)

395 389 I'm simply following my instructions from Chairman of the Board Doof D. Doof.
Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (77rzZ)

=======

I'm going to get my Anti-Anti-Bruherhood-inator and go after him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

396 Hoping Ace takes the smirking twist of salt in the wounds approach to his by-line on the USSC decision(s):

" 'No Kings' Protests bear Fruit. USSC acts in their favor and replaces Circuit Court Thrones with folding chairs."

Posted by: Orson at June 27, 2025 12:05 PM (dIske)

397 osted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:03 P

Switch to writing screenplays

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 12:05 PM (VofaG)

398 One of the most painful exams I took. Writing for 1.5 hours is a bear.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 11:39 AM (mlg/3)

Nuclear power school. Allotted four hours. Covered every topic over the six month school. Pain.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 27, 2025 12:05 PM (ExV1e)

399 The problem with the medieval Church is precisely that it got too rich and powerful for its own good. It became essentially a political institution instead of a religious one. And Henry (and other monarchs of the day) treated it as such.

Posted by: Bulg at June 27, 2025 12:06 PM (77rzZ)

400 they will try to abuse the little sliver in the decision, bring class action to stop this or that executive decision

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 12:06 PM (g47mK)

401 Rumor has it that Sid and Raimundo are doing a hostile takeover of Bulg Industries

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 12:06 PM (pwtJC)

402 Every single one of them said in their bios "Looking for unheard voices and underrepresented narratives," or whatever. Even the older white dudes.

This has become painfully obvious in what's being published and its quality. They're doing for books what they did for comics. Slowly but surely.

Posted by: Throw Another Shoe in the Machine at June 27, 2025 12:07 PM (GeOhA)

403 Carpal tunnel syndrom is an occupational hazard for programmers in exactly the same way that black lung disease is an occupational hazard for coal miners.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 12:04 PM (qpyNK)
++++
I work in high tech. I once had a minor injury that required me to wear a wrist brace.

Many people asked me - fearfully - "is it the carpal tunnel?"

Thankfully, a good seating position and keyboard go a *long* way. I used to get a lot of pain in my wrists and fingers until I got a Model M keyboard. I type hard and the gradually increasing, analogue force feedback from the buckling springs - right up until they buckle, anyway - helped a lot. I quit bottoming out on my keystrokes, and the repetitive force/shock transmitted into my fingers and wrists fell radically.

A good keyboard - whatever "good" means to your particular habits and style - makes a huge difference.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 12:07 PM (6bTRc)

404 364
‘ He might be spared the death penalty, but a fit young good-looking guy will be very popular in the showers ....’

He’s not very big either. I think he’ll be the sweetheart of the cellblock.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 27, 2025 12:07 PM (jbnUc)

405 400 they will try to abuse the little sliver in the decision, bring class action to stop this or that executive decision
Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 12:06 PM (g47mK)

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Class action is already hard to bring (they tried it on the habeus corpus for illegals thing and failed).

It also doesn't help when members of the class object to the lawsuit. So, "America is a class and objects to this," will be fun to watch attempted.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)

406 Daddy Trump schooling the idiot "journolists".

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 27, 2025 12:07 PM (ufFY8)

407
Gutenberg shagged Tahnee Welch, nein?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 27, 2025 12:07 PM (x0n13)

408 I think Jumanji Jackson might be the first supreme court justice to actually physically assault another justice.
Posted by: Frank Barone

I think what we're seeing is a justice who has never had to defend intellectually an argument in her life.

Whether HS, college or ?? She's glided thru and ran with the Sam herd that she can't believe there are others who think differently. And if she has encountered them, I'm black woke women argument has sufficed.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 27, 2025 12:08 PM (JkCto)

409 I learned to type on a manual typewriter. This involved learning proper ... hand posture, to coin a phrase. So I never had even a bit of a twinge after a decade of pounding out code. It was the introduction of the mouse that gave me an ache in the wrist.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 12:08 PM (jc0TO)

410
ace is writing a cool post about SCOTUS for us. w000t

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 12:08 PM (HuRzZ)

411 Class action is already hard to bring (they tried it on the habeus corpus for illegals thing and failed).

It also doesn't help when members of the class object to the lawsuit. So, "America is a class and objects to this," will be fun to watch attempted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:07 PM (GBKbO)

I did not say they would be successful. Just that they will try , and will tie up resources, and make themselves a pain in the arse!

Posted by: runner at June 27, 2025 12:09 PM (g47mK)

412 Maybe. But we *do* know that computers can't do it.

Again, the categorical assertion about something that can't even be defined.

But it won't figure out a jet engine for you. That would require an act of creation, and the computer can't do it.

Maybe. *shrug* Who knows? What does "creation" mean anyway? As a Christian, I believe that there is only One Creator and anything else is a derivation or imitation of some sort. And we've seen AIs and LLMs do exactly that.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 27, 2025 12:09 PM (/y8xj)

413 408 I think what we're seeing is a justice who has never had to defend intellectually an argument in her life.

Whether HS, college or ?? She's glided thru and ran with the Sam herd that she can't believe there are others who think differently. And if she has encountered them, I'm black woke women argument has sufficed.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 27, 2025 12:08 PM (JkCto)

======

For a minute there, I think this was about Sotomayor.

Let's be honest, Jackson is the second of her ilk on SCOTUS.

She's just more obnoxious in chambers, it seems.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:09 PM (GBKbO)

414 Lol.

The guy actually wrote "Catherine of Aragorn"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 12:09 PM (BjH5D)

415 Whether HS, college or ?? She's glided thru and ran with the Sam herd that she can't believe there are others who think differently. And if she has encountered them, I'm black woke women argument has sufficed.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 27, 2025 12:08 PM (JkCto)

A BLACK WOMAN IS SPEAKING!

Posted by: Throw Another Shoe in the Machine at June 27, 2025 12:09 PM (GeOhA)

416 >>ace is writing a cool post about SCOTUS for us. w000t

Who?

Posted by: JackStraw at June 27, 2025 12:10 PM (viF8m)

417 401 Rumor has it that Sid and Raimundo are doing a hostile takeover of Bulg Industries

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 12:06 PM (pwtJC)

aha! that is just a red herring to divert you to the True Power Behind the Throne...one Miss Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT!!

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 12:10 PM (dCxaZ)

418 Can't. He was under 18 at the time of the crime so SCOTUS said no death penalty.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

But I think Texas law says he can be tried as an adult.

No juvi hall

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at June 27, 2025 12:10 PM (JkCto)

419 I've run into that too. I have a lead on a dev ed, but no money to pay her. I could rely on beta readers and AI editing, but that's not free either. If the dev ed likes my book, I'd consider trying for an agent first to avoid self pub. Odds are against, though.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 27, 2025 12:01 PM (0eaVi)

======

I gave up completely on literary agents about 13 years ago.

Every single one of them said in their bios "Looking for unheard voices and underrepresented narratives," or whatever. Even the older white dudes.

No one would even write me back with more than a form letter.

So, self-publishing was my only option. Selling dozens of books.

Still, I write because I like it. I'd like to live on it, but that's never going to happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)
________

I'm still trying, haven't given up yet, although I have little faith I'll find one. In addition to them all saying they're not interested in new straight white male authors, they ask for your publishing history and if you currently have an agent. Wtf? If I was already published and had an agent, I wouldn't need you!

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 12:10 PM (iFTx/)

420 "131 Reality is if you’re applying for jobs online you’re not getting the job. AI or no AI. Those jobs either don’t really exist or you’re competing with 500 people.

Networking is what gets jobs. It may not be fair or whatever. But it’s how the world works.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 27, 2025 11:27 AM (ORJZB)"

Sometimes, sometimes not.

I want to say that every opening we put out gets about 1500-2500 applicants. These get narrowed down to maybe 30 via the laugh test, of which maybe 2-4 will totally bomb a basic call with a recruiter by failing to pretend not to be psychotic. Say ~28 get sent actual technical problems (tech job - if you know, you know) Answers to those typically filter it down to 2-4 who need to make it through a call with an actual hiring manager; maybe 2-3 of those then make it into an on-site interview, which is usually a ~10 hour deal if you include an hour for lunch.

Those applicants are virtually all online.

Maybe 30% of the time, someone with an inside connection can pretty much guarantee they make it to the on-site. I don't recall any instances of skipping the earlier parts of the process unless they'd worked for us before, though.

Posted by: heya at June 27, 2025 12:10 PM (bUBn/)

421
USSC acts in their favor and replaces Circuit Court Thrones with folding chairs."

Posted by: Orson

===============

USSC replaces district court lightning bolts with pack of wet matches.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (HuRzZ)

422 Where be Chuy?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (CqOiB)

423 I wish we could get floating dots or something on the main page while Ace is furiously writing his post.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (cduTK)

424 divert you away from Mary

see, I fell for the dastardly plot as well

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (dCxaZ)

425 The Model M is the gold standard in keyboards. Crafted with pride in the great state of Kentucky, USA, it provides matchless quality, durability and performance, all in the iconic form factor known around the world as the "final word" in industrial design.

Accept no substitutes.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (BI5O2)

426 Trump has announced that we have a new trade deal with Chy-na.

No details in the article I saw.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (qpyNK)

427 Rumor has it that Sid and Raimundo are doing a hostile takeover of Bulg Industries
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 12:06 PM (pwtJC)

__________

They're trying to take him from the rear

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

428 “Those things Americans call constitutional rights seem hardly worth the paper they are written on!”

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 27, 2025 11:58 AM (J8edR)

Okay Justice Jumanji Jackson, now apply that to the 2nd Amendment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (with a beret and a Gauloises) at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (L5An7)

429 The English Reformation had devastating effects for the working poor and people on the brink of going under.

Monasteries offered reduced land rents for people who otherwise couldn't afford farm land.

When Henry VIII destroyed the monasteries, he took away that safety net and plunged many of his own people into poverty.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (o7+nL)

430 Women are more prone to carpal tunnel because the tunnel is more narrow than a man's and any inflammation or swelling will cause the symptoms.

CTS used to be the Workers Comp go to for about 5 years of my career. Seems that WC attorneys and doctors come top with a new hard to objectively deny injury every five years or so. It screws the workers who have legit injuries.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 12:12 PM (VofaG)

431 I think that I am correct in noting that Justice Jumanji is the first Appellate judge to be reversed 9-0 by the Supreme Court who then got elevated to it.

The woman wouldn't recognize the Constitution if it bit her on the ass.

Posted by: toby928 at June 27, 2025 12:12 PM (jc0TO)

432 Ironheart review? Chirp.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 27, 2025 12:12 PM (VAINm)

433 Nuclear power school. Allotted four hours. Covered every topic over the six month school. Pain.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

I met a civil engineer who took his exam in the '70s. 8 hour sitting, two days.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 12:12 PM (mlg/3)

434 Nood, extra red.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 27, 2025 12:12 PM (mlg/3)

435
ace is writing a cool post about SCOTUS for us. w000t

Who?
Posted by: JackStraw

=============

*sits at the table fully set with china and silver and candles, hears clanking noises in the kitchen, wiggles with excitement*

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 27, 2025 12:13 PM (HuRzZ)

436 Trump has announced that we have a new trade deal with Chy-na.

No details in the article I saw.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (qpyNK)

I saw something about magnets flowing again.

Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 12:13 PM (VofaG)

437 380 ... "It *sucks* to type on a manual typewriter. The Selectric was a great invention."

A manual typewriter shouldn't take a lot of effort to press the keys. But for anyone who has only used computer keyboards it would feel hard. Still less effort than learning to play guitar.

Now they keys for a keypunch machine, that took some serious muscle and determination.

Posted by: JTB at June 27, 2025 12:14 PM (yTvNw)

438 372
‘ Are you suggesting that the history of Catholic Church is free of abuses and should be immune to criticism? I'm going to have to differ with you there.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia ‘

Damn. And you would know too.

(The juxtaposition of your nickname to that post is too perfect)

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 27, 2025 12:14 PM (jbnUc)

439 Every single one of them said in their bios "Looking for unheard voices and underrepresented narratives," or whatever. Even the older white dudes.

No one would even write me back with more than a form letter.

So, self-publishing was my only option. Selling dozens of books.

Still, I write because I like it. I'd like to live on it, but that's never going to happen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (GBKbO)

Of course, I'll probably be stepped on, but....

At my age, I'll never make any money, I'd just like to see if I can do it. Short story I submitted to a magazine was rejected today. So, not likely to have a career.

The main point is these unheard voices have been heard since the 70s. They're all crap. Nothing these voices say are of value at all, they're just complaints because they're not good enough to write something anyone would want to read. Big Publishing has ruined the writing biz pandering to perverts and losers.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 27, 2025 12:14 PM (0eaVi)

440 ACB really nuked Jackson from orbit with her "imperial judiciary" comment. Judges usually don't go that far against a colleague

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 12:15 PM (pwtJC)

441 You didn't pre-outline the major plot points (chanelling my Lit teaching husband now)...it's easier to keep yourself on track when you know the major points you want your story to hit and how you want it to end before you start fleshing it out

OK, valid response. I have an idea in my head about what is going to happen but I have not written it down. I guess I know what I'm doing today.

Stephen King doesn't outline shit and is one of the most successful writers in history.

Then you get Brandon Sandersen who goes for hikes and dictates his stories on a voice recorder.

Posted by: NR Pax at June 27, 2025 12:15 PM (BpO1e)

442 Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at June 27, 2025 12:10 PM (iFTx/)
_____________________________

Here's a thought that I know has worked once or twice. It will cost you a little bit of money up front, but the investment is about getting your foot in the door.

Take a writing course (whether you think you need it or not) at a reputable college. Hob nob with the instructor who will have contacts in the literary field. She/he can get you through the first obstacle (actually meeting with someone).

That's how Jim Butcher started the "Dresden" series.

It sounds round about, and likely a waste of time from the writing aspect, but writing teachers have friends in the industry.

Posted by: Orson at June 27, 2025 12:15 PM (dIske)

443 ACB really nuked Jackson from orbit with her "imperial judiciary" comment. Judges usually don't go that far against a colleague
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 27, 2025 12:15 PM (pwtJC)

Cat fight!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 27, 2025 12:16 PM (BjH5D)

444 > Damn. And you would know too.

Nowadays having a bunch of illegitimate kids would be seen as a negative factor for becoming Pope.

In his day, you kept your mouth shut if you knew what as good for you.

The thing is, he wasn't actually a bad Pope, as Renaissance-era Popes went.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 27, 2025 12:17 PM (qpyNK)

445 "Program a computer with the state of the art in aviation in, say, 1930. Ask it to design you the best airplane possible. It will. It will probably churn out a very clever monoplane with an excellent and reliable engine design.

But it won't figure out a jet engine for you. That would require an act of creation, and the computer can't do it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 27, 2025 11:59 AM (6bTRc)"

You're fundamentally misunderstanding what various types of AI do and what role the developers have in directing it. Several types are very much capable of creating something new and functional, and there are specific areas - like structural design - where they come up with some pretty wildly effective solutions and can run circles around human engineers.

A lot of this hinges on the ability to use raw non-AI computing power to simulate the performance of whatever is being designed - thus allowing rapid trial and error - combined with things like additive manufacturing where you don't have to sweat production details.

Note this is very different from asking an LLM to cough up a pile of information; 10 pages of bullshit can look good, but a truss either fails or not.

Posted by: heya at June 27, 2025 12:17 PM (bUBn/)

446 "The guy actually wrote "Catherine of Aragorn""

She had a face like a T-Rex.

Posted by: Toad-0 at June 27, 2025 12:17 PM (cct0t)

447 TJM:

"Higher courts will be more likely to hold to the SCOTUS precedent."

So they're now "more likely" to adhere to the basic line of authority in the system? Sorta like the troops are now more likely to follow orders? This is any kind of "victory"? Lol.

"Remember, this whole thing starts just, like, 4 months ago. It wasn't years."

Isn't this exactly the same issue as arose in 2017 and after? The "Muslim ban" case? And of course even before, but with Trump the "judiciary" became a farcical parody of what it is supposed to be, starting during his first term (when it comes to this particular issue).

Posted by: rhomboid at June 27, 2025 12:19 PM (1m82a)

448 Cuomo is going to split the opposition vote and let the commie muslim win.
Posted by: polynikes at June 27, 2025 12:03 PM (VofaG)

I 100% believe this

Posted by: ... at June 27, 2025 12:26 PM (rCia8)

449 Either you were dealing with a crappy manual typewriter or you don't know how to set it up correctly.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 27, 2025 12:27 PM (AcTAo)

450 Reality check, Mr. Throckmorton: Henry's "enemy" was the Pope who became an "enemy" because he would not allow Henry's request for serial marriage.

By the way, I enjoy your writings enough to offer this course-correction.

Perhaps the monasteries were 'corrupt', but they also had lots of loot. You will notice that Henry grabbed the loot, which supports the theory that IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.

Posted by: dad29 at June 27, 2025 12:47 PM (zgw+6)

451 When Henry VIII destroyed the monasteries, he took away that safety net and plunged many of his own people into poverty.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 27, 2025 12:11 PM (o7+nL)

the monasteries also provided health care for the surrounding population

when the people had to leave those rural areas to head to London to seek work, it was the genesis of the nightmare Victorian London underclass. Noted by Charles Dickens, a notorious anti-Catholic. But even he couldn't deny the history.

also, Henry VIII proceeded to distribute the pillaged monastic properties to his friends, thereby creating an entirely new nobility. Many of the current Peers of the Realm owe their titles and wealth to Henry VIII defying the Pope.

Posted by: kallisto at June 27, 2025 12:51 PM (dCxaZ)

452 The monasteries didn't have bowl games and March madness.

Posted by: Lex at June 27, 2025 12:53 PM (l5xX+)

453 Can AI teach engineering, law, or medicine?

I can think of some academic areas that it could either teach as effectively as the classroom or at least render that body of knowledge irrelevant in terms of post-secondary careers. Humanities, math and foreign languages come to mind.

But those elite disciplines with real world consequences rely as much on mentoring and collaboration as they do on merely acquiring knowledge.

Posted by: Jack Squat.Bupkis at June 27, 2025 12:56 PM (jYRYu)

454 Now, if he could stop being the pres of the gews.
OK, I denounce myself, but really, he needs to stop dancing to yahoos tune.

Posted by: Whitepunk at June 27, 2025 01:00 PM (BfRTf)

455 Wrong thread

Posted by: Whitepunk at June 27, 2025 01:05 PM (BfRTf)

456 AI can certainly present written course material and assign homework as well or better than Professors ... but until someone figures out how to prevent students from using AI to DO the homework or be used during an exam the idea of in-person testing must remain ... (today too many students already use AI do do their homework ...)

maybe strict in-person testing will solve the AI doing the homework issue (if you don't learn via homework you'll fail the test anyway)

Posted by: The Dark Lord at June 27, 2025 01:19 PM (DBAaD)

457 Becoming a doctor is much more like a medieval guild than people understand. There are hurdles, (organic chemistry and calculus) that don't mean much in the end but tells that you are smart enough. After that, it is having your head filled with the guild's knowledge and then the special knowledge for your specific specialty. The research is very poor, we learn from the masters who train and refine their technique.
I suspect most of this can be bypassed with certifications and testing of specific tasks.

Posted by: Beaver at June 27, 2025 03:43 PM (tCdjd)

458 Classic Star Trek THE ULTIMATE COMPUTER look at what happens when a Star Ship is placed under the total Control of a computer programed by a crazy man

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at June 27, 2025 06:29 PM (wGqjj)

459 Beloit College in Wisconsin teaches freshman the Socratic Method of learning, which is used in all classes. They are assigned an advisor and meet in small groups during their first year or until they have decided on a major, with the help of their advisor. Grades in classes are assigned on how prepared a student is, whether or not they ask each other intelligent questions that further learning, and their ability to defend their answers during discussions. No BS answers are allowed, because your fellow students will see through it and rip you apart intellectually. The professors provide the topic and articles/books to read before a class. They open the discussion and then step back, seldom interjecting unless the discussion has veered off track. That being said, Beloit College is facing the same financial pressures that other liberal arts colleges are facing. They are doing a major reassessment and bringing back degree programs that will allow students to actually get a job after graduation, rather than pushing all students into advanced degrees.

Posted by: Annie Rose at June 27, 2025 08:02 PM (NzF2S)

460 All books were handwritten by monks until Johannes Gutenberg introduced the printing press in the 1450s.
Absolutely not true. What Gutenberg invented was the movable type printing press. That meant you could produce different pages on the fly. Until then you to carve each page separately, and when some of it wore down you had to carve the entire page over again (or patch it).

Posted by: GWB at June 27, 2025 08:33 PM (LaVqz)

461 in which the students focus simply on their area of specialization for an abbreviated period
So, you're arguing to replace the universities... with the guild system?

Which is NEVER what the universities were about.

Posted by: GWB at June 27, 2025 08:37 PM (LaVqz)

462 Gutenberg did not do that to the monasteries, so on that model, AI would not that to universities.

First, the "core purpose" of monasteries was not the preservation and transmission of knowledge.

Second, by the time the Gutenberg press showed up, the college and university system had already begun developing.

Third, the political issues over Church land are more extensive.

Ultimately, the passing of the monasteries is more due to the Reformation as a whole than just the Gutenberg press. Catholic monasteries remained centers of science for centuries after Henry VIII and Luther.

Posted by: Sam at June 27, 2025 08:41 PM (7jMef)

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