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Iran Is Now Begging the US to Step In and Force a Ceasefire on Israel
Killers, but of the absolute coward type.
Which we've come to expect from the Fruits of Islam.Things aren't going well for Iran. While the Islamist nation has managed to kill some civilians by indiscriminately lobbing ballistic missiles at Israel, when it comes to the actual business of winning the war, the scoreboard isn't even close. The latest evidence of that? Iran is now begging for a ceasefire. According to The Wall Street Journal, the Mullahs are looking for an off-ramp, burning up the backchannels to try to get the United States to bail them out.Meanwhile, there are reports that Iran's 86-year-old tyrant the Ayatollah Khamenei, who is in poor health, is being shuffled from underground bunker to underground bunker to keep him safe from Israeli drones, jets, and commandos.I'm not sure if what's left of the Iranian leadership doesn't understand how negotiations work, but they probably should have taken them seriously before Israel began its military operation to destroy their nuclear program. It took only three days for the IDF to establish air superiority over Tehran, and they are now bombing regime targets with impunity. That includes the launchers being used to shoot missiles at Israel. Once that threat is minimized, the Mullahs will have nothing left to respond with.
Iran has been urgently signaling that it seeks an end to hostilities and resumption of talks over its nuclear programs, sending messages to Israel and the U.S. via Arab intermediaries, Middle Eastern and European officials said. In the midst of a ferocious Israeli air campaign, Tehran has told Arab officials it would be open to returning to the negotiating table as long as the U.S. doesn't join the attack, the officials said. Iran also passed messages to Israel saying it is in the interest of both sides to keep the violence contained.
Anna Puma said that there are rumors that Khameini is talking to Russia about allowing him to resettle and hide there. Some are claiming he's already fled. I've heard unconfirmed reports stating that Israel has thoroughly compromised the entire Iranian government and military with double-agents secretly working for Israel, and that this explains the highly accurate intelligence Israel has. And also, its ability smuggle in weapons and even set up drone bases inside Iran.
Donald Trump is said to have already vetoed an Israeli opportunity to kill Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khamenei since the conflict erupted on Friday. But Tehran's 86-year-old supreme leader will still be fearing assassination, hiding out in 'as secure a location as they can manage' as Israel continues to target high ranking officials with deadly precision strikes across the country, onlookers believe. Speaking on the BBC's Newscast over the weekend, The Economist's defence editor, Shashank Joshi, assessed that Khamenei would likely avoid any public appearances as his remaining loyalists work desperately to keep him out of Israel's crosshairs. 'I think they'll be concerned that Israel has clearly penetrated them inside out, so they will be looking to all possible corners from how to keep him safe, perhaps moving him from place to place,' he said.
I've also heard that Iran's uranium enrichment centers are currently unusable because, in addition to serious surface bombing, Israel has also cut all electricity to those nuke factories.
Sources within Iran told London-based Persian-language outlet Iran International that Khamenei was moved to an underground bunker in Lavizan, in northeastern Tehran, in the hours after Israel began its attacks on the capital at the end of last week. He is believed to be holed up with his family, including his son, Mojtaba - who has been pegged as a potential successor to the ageing supreme leader. Israel has already taken out top ranking officials including the chief of staff of the Iranian military and the commander-in-chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Chiefs (IRGC) since Friday. A strike killing Khamenei would be deeply controversial and create untold chaos within Iran's political system. It would also depend on Israeli intelligence being able to locate the supreme leader - and the air force to deliver the crucial blow. ... While Israeli strikes so far have done much to undermine Iran's military and nuclear programme, removing Khamenei 'could cause total upheaval and chaos', he said.
... Asked if there was an Israeli plan to kill Khamenei that had been vetoed by Washington, Netanyahu told Fox News: 'We do what we need to do, we will do what we need to do and I think the United States knows what is good for the United States'.
BREAKING: Thousands of inmates have reportedly escaped from a prison in Iran.
— Eyal Yakoby (@EYakoby) June 16, 2025
These are mostly political prisoners and those thrown in jail by the morality police. This regime is crumbling. pic.twitter.com/YiqQdeV64u
JUST IN: Israeli Air Force strikes the studio of Iranian state run Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) in Tehran while they were on live air.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) June 16, 2025
The newscaster was in the middle of a show when the building was hit. pic.twitter.com/GvVE0xRAT8
I sent the Iran video to my buddy who speaks Farsi and he sent me back this translation pic.twitter.com/92a7jy4YKT
— Jarvis (@jarvis_best) June 16, 2025
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Thanatopsis at June 16, 2025 05:21 PM (GYt5+)
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Posted by: tcn in AK at June 16, 2025 05:24 PM (a4NoL)
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Posted by: Accomack at June 16, 2025 05:24 PM (28cZF)
Posted by: El Borak at June 16, 2025 05:24 PM (WXgKW)
Belle must be the chunky one, what with all those tacos.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 16, 2025 05:25 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: huerfano at June 16, 2025 05:25 PM (n2swS)
The Franz Ferdinand effect.
Posted by: Auspex at June 16, 2025 05:25 PM (j4U/Z)
Congrats Iran you now have radioactive sludge and will have to start all over after ripping everything out.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:25 PM (skGot)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 05:25 PM (P9gC0)
Posted by: Polka will never die at June 16, 2025 05:26 PM (NZ3mj)
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2025 05:26 PM (pMi6S)
My source is Tucker -Just asking questions- Carlson.
Posted by: Bete at June 16, 2025 05:27 PM (LX4y3)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:27 PM (skGot)
And it's too late, baby, now it's too late
Though we really did try to make it
Something inside has died
And I can't hide and I just can't fake it
Oh, no, no, no, no (No, no, no, no)
Posted by: wth at June 16, 2025 05:27 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: This thought warms my cold blackened soul at June 16, 2025 05:27 PM (TbWk/)
Posted by: huerfano at June 16, 2025 05:25 PM (n2swS)
Some of them may be finding out just now.
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 16, 2025 05:27 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:28 PM (skGot)
Posted by: Ordinary American at June 16, 2025 05:28 PM (x2CMu)
My source is Tucker -Just asking questions- Carlson.
Posted by: Be
it is good if Israel does whatever it wants, but it does so without our gear
nobody got to vote here about how Israel wants to spend our money
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:28 PM (Rf/lg)
Harump
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at June 16, 2025 05:28 PM (AThW+)
Translation: We need more time to develop a nuke while we blow smoke up your ass.
Posted by: Halfhand at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (xk/GE)
And then I think of how well things went in post-Saddam Iraq. And post-Khomeini Libya. And post-Assad Syria.
I hope they had a more thought-out plan this time.
Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (0Id0S)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (skGot)
You are now at the FO part of the FA FO equation.
I gave you 60 days. Enjoy.
President Donald Trump John Trump
Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (fab8c)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (mlg/3)
The penetration of Iran's govt. and security forces is vastly greater, for lots of reasons.
The hit on Haniyeh - in the IRGC guest facility, inside the IRGC's most secure compound in Tehran - may be the most audacious and amazing op evah, to include Eli Cohen as Syria's DefMin. That was possible because Israel's penetration has long not been limited to their extensive personal and family avenues/assets they have due to Iranian diaspora. A corrupt totalitarian regime, in a particular culture and time, can be a foreign intel playground.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Ordinary
is it better if the congressmen wearing idf unis decide what to do?
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: red speck at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (0Id0S)
Translation: We need more time to develop a nuke while we blow smoke up your ass.
Posted by: Halfhand at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (xk/GE)
Hudna. Time honored tactic of all violent Muslim regimes and terrorist organizations.
Posted by: You're kicking our ass, it's not FAAAAIIIRRR at June 16, 2025 05:30 PM (TbWk/)
Oh, and one Chinese cargo jet on its way to Europe mysteriously diverted to Iran LOL
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:30 PM (e7kz6)
And it's too late, baby, now it's too late
Though we really did try to make it
Something inside has died
And I can't hide and I just can't fake it
Oh, no, no, no, no (No, no, no, no)
Posted by: wth at June 16, 2025 05:27 PM (v0R5T
I wonder how Carol King sees this?
Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2025 05:30 PM (jgmnb)
Posted by: Brewingfrog at June 16, 2025 05:30 PM (N4cLr)
Isn't the definition of insanity to do the same thing over and over, while expecting a different result?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2025 05:30 PM (SiRut)
Posted by: Zippyslug at June 16, 2025 05:30 PM (/jFSs)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (DS3M8)
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I wonder if they even had that discussion, or if that story has just been planted so that Trump can play good cop if the need arises.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: wth at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (Rf/lg)
"Our long national nightmare is over."
(Trump 45 years later after FINALLY helping to topple the Islamic regime in Iran that Jimmy Carter allowed and Reagan couldn't undo):
"No -- NOW our long national nightmare is ACTUALLY over."
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (pMi6S)
Posted by: Turn 2 at June 16, 2025 05:22 PM
You can tune a piano, but you cannot tune a fish?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (SiRut)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (e7kz6)
That uranium purification cascade has to start over. Israel needs to make sure that all those underground facilities too deep for bombs have every exit sealed. Stop the Plutonium from migrating.
Go after the air vents too. They should be as large as womp rats.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (u82oZ)
But enough about Joey Bidet and his lying dog faced pony soldiers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (skGot)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (wBaIH)
Harump
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It was discussed on Rantburg Friday evening.
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (TN0g+)
Make the rubble bounce..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (88IMd)
Posted by: tcn in AK
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As long as Iran does not threaten its neighbors, I really don't care what form of government they end up with. Probably a new despotism but possibly not.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (skGot)
Along with n, or YankeeFifth, or ConfederateFifth or whatever he's calling himself these days.
Posted by: Just go join Stormfront already at June 16, 2025 05:33 PM (TbWk/)
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I wonder if they even had that discussion, or if that story has just been planted so that Trump can play good cop if the need arises.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (Dnobf)
It would be convenient to have him ready to sign the deal himself as he is the legitimate dude in charge. Then the deal can limit is power to limit the rebuilding of the terror wing and provide some self rule for different districts.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:33 PM (8avO+)
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In that people who already hate Israel would bitch about it for a week and then move on to something else.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 05:33 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:28 PM (Rf/lg)
The Armchair Reich is never far away.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 05:33 PM (uZ2FS)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 16, 2025 05:33 PM (rvwwT)
Israel shouldn't stop cleaning out the evil in Iran.
Keep going until there's nothing left there of the scum except their dead bodies.
Posted by: four seasons at June 16, 2025 05:34 PM (3ek7K)
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 16, 2025 05:34 PM (EtZ9h)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 16, 2025 05:34 PM (/Ghsb)
Posted by: Jus
is that your regular name or have you decided to hide your identity?
everybody knows who I am , it is the short bus columbos that think they have discovered something, such as you, that think thats a thing to comment over
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (Rf/lg)
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I hope Trump sticks to it. Daddy said 60 days and he meant it.
Now, little satan is going to send you to your virginal reward.
Mr. President, please send in the MOABs.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (DS3M8)
NOW, I want every day to be White Wednesday* in Iran.
*Iranian women defiantly rip off their veils
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (wbZPZ)
Yep.
Add in a dash of Taqiyah and now you are cooking with Underaged Goat!
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (uZ2FS)
Sadly this is now near-universal, it seems.
No point disassembling the nonsense though. Like bailing the ocean.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (1m82a)
https://tinyurl.com/The-3-Conjectures
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (TN0g+)
Make the rubble bounce..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (88IMd)
That is haram, unless it is goat bacon
Posted by: And you feed them to your neighbor at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (TbWk/)
praying very hard. these despotic regimes seem to last longer now that the bolshies in US gov love supporting them!
should have ended decades ago!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (Pv3Rg)
Eli Cohen wasn't Syria's Defense minister, although he was well connected with their military hierarchy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (dKL5S)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:28 PM (Rf/lg)
The Armchair Reich is never far away.
Posted by: gar
and your kneeling in front of it as you do
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (Rf/lg)
They can base in Jordan.
Wut? You say the UN hasn't said a word about the conflict so far? Europeans aren't interested in contributing to a peacekeeping force? Well I'll be darned. Who'd a thunk it?
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (aBgBM)
Eh, if I was Israel, i wouldn't stop until the Iranians infrastructure, water and power, their military capabilities, their nuke capabilities were taken down as close as possible to absolute zero.
These missile attack by Iran on Israeli citizens is basically total war, so if the Iranians want to play that game, then play that game.
You'll probably get a good ten years of peace out from that quarter by taking them down as far a possible.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (skGot)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (1jZXH)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:29 PM (Rf/lg)
Forget it. If you don't enthusiastically schlurp and glurp Israel and say "more daddy" around here, you're a Stormfronter Joo hater.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at June 16, 2025 05:36 PM (jxlma)
I dare to propose to you a notion that has been bouncing around in the back of my head all day:
if the illegals in Los Angeles were not part of the census there, the LA riots would never have taken place.
Posted by: SMOD at June 16, 2025 05:36 PM (W9pwP)
Translate:
"Adam Silver is responsible for this."
I don't even know who Adam Silver is, and that's fuckin' hilarious.
Posted by: Bombadil at June 16, 2025 05:36 PM (MX0bI)
everybody knows who I am , it is the short bus columbos that think they have discovered something, such as you, that think thats a thing to comment over
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (Rf/lg)
This is hysterical coming from a one lettered cuck commenter who has an anal fissure for Israel.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 05:36 PM (uZ2FS)
I hope Trump sticks to it. Daddy said 60 days and he meant it.
When did the show start? 60 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, and 15 seconds?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:36 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:36 PM (skGot)
Posted by: weft cut-loop
.......
They stole it from Babu:
https://tinyurl.com/3b289a25
Posted by: wth at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (v0R5T)
yeah I mean just keep PDJT busy with the new gold phone thing or something
ANYTHING! distract him! let the Israelis COOK
they seem to know what they're doing!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (xIkyh)
I pray for that. I want peace, with Iran free from the corrupt and wicked Islamic dictatorship
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (e7kz6)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (Rf/lg)
Stupid faggot can't even use words properly.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (uZ2FS)
Posted by: Turn 2 at June 16, 2025 05:22 PM
You can tune a piano, but you cannot tune a fish?
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Truly great live album!
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (TN0g+)
He is believed to be holed up with his family, including his son, Mojtaba - who has been pegged as a potential successor to the ageing supreme leader.
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They have deposed the Shah and his family in order to install a hereditary theocracy. How did that work out for Iran and the world?
Posted by: Decaf at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (unUNN)
Posted by: gar
your so funny, more of your confession through projection
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (EtZ9h)
Posted by: huerfano
A sci fi writer, H. Beam Piper, wrote a book about an obnoxious theocracy (Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen-free on Project Gutenberg and other places) where the high priests had no belief in the system--only the underlings at the lower levels.
The religion in that alternative world scenario was based on controlling the secret to gunpowder. Kalvan came our reality to the alternative reality by accident and knew how to make it. Well recommended especially if you like almost a literal translation of Charles Oman's the Art of War come to life.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (ctrM5)
Some funny footage, the Israeli air force bombed a media building as their 24 hour news service was broadcasting. A hijabbed woman was waving around and pontificating and the lights went out and she fled off camera as debris fell from the ceiling
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Scroll up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (wbZPZ)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 16, 2025 05:38 PM (gKWVE)
When did the show start? 60 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes, and 15 seconds?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:36 PM (QnmlO)
Think it was one day later, perhaps two when the bombs hit.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:38 PM (8avO+)
nobody got to vote here about how Israel wants to spend our money
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:28 PM (Rf/lg)
Compare and contrast what we spend on aid to Israel and the fall of Iran and what we spent on two wars in Iraq for the results we got there.
Israel seems like the better investment.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 05:38 PM (Dnobf)
Unless you mean their newest fig leaf "Reason" to still be bitter the Kews survived the Holocaust.
Posted by: Bete at June 16, 2025 05:38 PM (LX4y3)
Posted by: gar
it is the smart guys that go right for gay insults and ad hominem, your smart , funny too!
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:38 PM (Rf/lg)
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In that people who already hate Israel would bitch about it for a week and then move on to something else.
Posted by: Methos
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Right.
Controversial by whom with whom? Only the irrelevant.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:38 PM (DS3M8)
Why is it always us and the Israelis? The Zoroastrians have been sitting on their asses for years.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:38 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (e7kz6)
everyone hang in there. maybe it will FINALLY end!
it was a terrible sin and keeping them in power was worse even. thank you Dems and State and all you other Marx-sucking whores
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (skGot)
Posted by: gKWVE at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: n
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And you take it up the kazoo.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (DS3M8)
Most of their systems can only reach Israel from certain locations, and Israel has been sanitizing and patrolling those. I saw one video that described a truck hit as moving missiles *from* the west, toward Tehran (northeast).
Bold prediction: missile attacks will continue, some will cause damage and losses, there will be no effect on the outcome. Not inconceivable that Israel will reduce Iran to little lonely harassment attacks, a la the Houthis. Actually fairly likely, question is how long that takes.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (1m82a)
Israel seems like the better investment.
Posted by: Meth
iran is not going anywhere, its is numbers, Israel does not have enough of anything to end iran
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: Still lurking at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (kTd/k)
Tehran, "someone set us up the bomb!"
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:39 PM (skGot)
You have no chance to survive make your time.
Posted by: Ha ha ha... at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (TbWk/)
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Little Bill Daggett: I don't deserve this... to die like this.
Will Munny: Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
Posted by: Clint Eastwood, The Unforgiven at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (XeU6L)
Posted by: ... at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: n
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And you take it up the kazoo.
Posted by: Br
your super smart, but thats ovbious
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (Rf/lg)
Goal.2: iran pressures the palis to release all hostages.
Now, we will negotiate.
Maybe..
Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Crusader
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The Pakis already have them as in delivery systems and at last count, well over seventy or so.
The physics and mechanics of building nukes has been out there for a long while. The only question is whether a nation wants to blow its money on them and perhaps suffer for it externally via sanctions, etc.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (ctrM5)
Certainly, the Biden White House knew about it.
Posted by: dantesed at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (Oy/m2)
That option ran out on day 61. It isn't like Trump didn't warn them what was going to happen and the exact date it was going to happen.
Problem for iran is they didn't take him seriously and thought he would back off just like joe biden did for four years.
They are now at the FO part of the equation.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (e5NfL)
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Trump: "Get stuffed. You're now in the latter half of FAFO. How do you like it so far?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (YqDXo)
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I wonder if they even had that discussion, or if that story has just been planted so that Trump can play good cop if the need arises.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 05:31 PM (Dnobf)
That's what I think. Operationally, Khamenei is not very important right now, he's just an old figurehead on the run. The truly important people - the heads of air defense, the head of intelligence, the heads of the nuclear program - that's who Israel has been knocking off like a row of dominoes. Operationally, Iranian defenses have to be in total chaos right now, with units unsure of who they are even getting orders from anymore.
Earlier today, there was an attack on Israel of only 3 missiles, easily deflected. That screams of some local commander, eager to look like he was doing something but completely unable to coordinate with any other units.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (P9gC0)
Posted by: Rando del Ashalle at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (tLqEs)
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (Pv3Rg)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (QnmlO)
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The game would be 25% more watchable if they called:
* Travelling
* Palming
* Moving screens
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (TN0g+)
Too many lies. Too much blood and treasure spent. Trump got elected to fix the problems at home, not get us involved in more of this shit. It will not end well.
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (MZ+PY)
I hope they had a more thought-out plan this time.
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At some point the people of a country have to sort it out themselves. But Israel can't help but have a better outcome, since it's unlikely the US State Department will be running Iran for a decade trying to turn it into some kind of clone of Europe.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (63Dwl)
Having a large number of aerial tankers move to the Middle East, and two CVBGs closing in on Iran, tells me we may not be done with fighting. We are sending very strong signals to someone.
What is our Intel is actually saying? De we need to deep hit the Iranian nuke facilities with our few MOABs? Are we deterring another country that wants to step into the fight?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (Rf/lg)
Yeah. A lover of circumcised cocks.
You take after your Mother that way.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (uZ2FS)
Posted by: gar
it is the smart guys that go right for gay insults and ad hominem, your smart , funny too!
Posted by: n
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The best part about this is the ignorance of the more meta (I think that's the term) joke.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - The 19th Amendment is a civilization level sh*t test at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (SbtHR)
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:37 PM (ctrM5)
plus the story fits into the Paratime series where people from a more advanced timeline infiltrate other timelines (including ours) to trade and mine resources since they used up their own timeline's wealth and have to try and keep it all secret.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (8avO+)
Do you suppose the mullahs believed their own bullshit?
Posted by: huerfano
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I've wondered this about every despotic ideology that ever succeeded a hereditary monarchy, including American leftism.
I don't think Hillary Clinton believes in climate change, or that Nancy Pelosi has any sympathy for illegal aliens, or that Randi Weingarten believes she was protecting kids by masking them and locking down schools.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at June 16, 2025 05:42 PM (wbZPZ)
US: "OK, buddy. Whatever."
Iran: "WE WILL WIPE ISRAEL FROM THE PLANET!!!"
US: "Careful now."
ISRAEL: ...
(Israel flies over and says hi)
IRAN: "HELP US, AMERICA!!!"
US: "I guess we have to find somewhere else to get pistachios"
Posted by: Orson at June 16, 2025 05:42 PM (dIske)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 16, 2025 05:42 PM (/Ghsb)
Certainly, the Biden White House knew about it.
Posted by: dantesed
Twenty YEARS, according to reports yesterday.
Talk about patience.
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2025 05:42 PM (pMi6S)
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How do you like him so far?
How do you like his show?
How do you like the way he rocks and the way he rolls?
How do you like his image?
How do you like his style?
How do you like the way he looks and the way he smiles?
Posted by: Loverboy Re Trump at June 16, 2025 05:42 PM (TN0g+)
Yeah. A lover of circumcised cocks.
You take after your Mother that way.
Posted by: gar
hey, you have to know, we love you for who you are garret, whoever and whatever you do
nobody is going to think badly of you because of the wrong choices you have made
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:42 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM
One more question ...
What is your quest?
Posted by: Short Bus Columbo at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (SiRut)
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Trump's got to send in the MOABs, those are the only bombs that can reach that IMPORTANT bunker. And send one for the Ayatollas and the mullahs too.
Set them free to pursue their destiny without tyranny.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (DS3M8)
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (aUqcU)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:32 PM (Rf/lg)
That's how you want America to treat a trusted ally in a time of need?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (OtB33)
Posted by: ... at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (E0p3T)
What is our Intel is actually saying? De we need to deep hit the Iranian nuke facilities with our few MOABs? Are we deterring another country that wants to step into the fight?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (u82oZ)
Probably preparing to hit deeper in country if the situation drags on and the leaders flee out of range of Israel.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (8avO+)
Oh, some of them tried to trot that out and it looked as stupid as usual and I think they are figuring it out
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (e7kz6)
Let it be.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 16, 2025 05:43 PM (NFX2v)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (P9gC0)
Posted by: TeeJ at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (spJU8)
_______________
Trump: "Get stuffed. You're now in the latter half of FAFO. How do you like it so far?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 05:40 PM (YqDXo)
Indeed. Best to wait until the Gov't fully crumbles, then say, "Oh, you want a deal now?"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (ynpvh)
Of course there was no Lord Kalvan, just some adventurers looking for a planet to settle. But the guy gets the princess anyway.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (skGot)
You wanna preach 10th century religion, welcome to the 10th century assholes.
If you ever build the bomb, you can drop it using a donkey cart.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (gDhA9)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (e7kz6)
I have a Putinbot friend who is obsessed with thinking that Iran is actually winning the war....
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (WYStd)
nobody got to vote here about how Israel wants to spend our money
Posted by: n
Kind of we did formally agree way back when during the Carter years. Israel gets military aid from the Carter era Camp David Accords as does Egypt as a treaty requirement. Current amounts, according to an AI summary are:
"The Camp David Accords included provisions related to military aid, under which Egypt receives $1.3 billion annually in military aid from the United States, while Israel receives $3 billion. "
Guess a future president could rescind the treaty as GWB did with the ABM treaty and Carter did with the Taiwanese.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (pMi6S)
Certainly, the Biden White House knew about it.
Posted by: dantesed
Years.
I doubt it. Some low level flunkie would have ran to the Iranian Ferret and told her. No doubt about it.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (fab8c)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (QnmlO)
Oh, they've moved on.. TACO was a failure so they've gone to no Kings...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (VE6XX)
it's a good story, too!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 16, 2025 05:42 PM (/Ghsb)
Plus a pretty blonde pagan princess who wields a mean pistol!
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (ynpvh)
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We take the pressure and we throw away
Conventionality belongs to yesterday
There is a chance that we can make it so far
We start believing now that we can be who we are
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (QnmlO)
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (eb5mD)
Just tell them you'll get back to them...in 60 days.
Posted by: El Mariachi - Attorney at Law at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (gDhA9)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (P9gC0)
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I wnat to do what is good for Israel, but more importantly for America.
Israel has not finished gaza, it does not have the capacity to do iran.
If you have a friend that is doing what you believe to be unwise you tell him even if its not what he wants to hear.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (rvwwT)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (QnmlO)
Oh, they've moved on.. TACO was a failure so they've gone to no Kings...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (VE6XX)
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They’re working on BURRITO now
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (5VzWu)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (VE6XX)
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Gotta love the left. Their only success is lurching from failure to failure.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (tT6L1)
We can't even get an accurate count on how many of the videos of rockets hitting Israel are real and not AI or video game footage?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (e7kz6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (skGot)
I think Israel is an ally, and the US should aid them, but not intervene militarily. I think that *is* a big mistake, for us, them, and Trump's administration.
But the idea that we should intercede on Khamenei's behalf is fucking ludicrous. I doubt it will happen, but if Trump does that, then he's retarded.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (BI5O2)
Please let the response be "Drop your request off with our ambassador at our embassy and we will let you know in 444 days. Regards, President Donald J. Trump"
Posted by: Chuck C at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (Htwr7)
Posted by: n
Strongly disagree. You are talking beyond any relevant strategy knowledge, and it shows.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Ex Rex Reeder at June 16, 2025 05:41 PM (MZ+PY)
Trump was elected fix domestic and foreign affairs.
He is navigating this issue very well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (OtB33)
No point worrying about the installations too well protected, simply deny ingress or egress and let them set.
I viewed the situation with Tehran's sewer systems, literally "Holy Shit". It's really quite serious, easily capable of breaking their society, they've no hope of sorting it out.
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (hKoQL)
I have a Putinbot friend who is obsessed with thinking that Iran is actually winning the war....
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 16, 2025 05:44 PM (WYStd)
Unlike the Gazans, Israel has shelters for its population. I heard of at least one death on the first day. Israel did alert Iran of targets to allow those nearby to get out.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (pMi6S)
A Mughal or a Khan?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (skGot)
praying very hard. these despotic regimes seem to last longer now that the bolshies in US gov love supporting them!
should have ended decades ago!
Posted by: Black Orchid at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM (Pv3Rg)
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The Iranian people did try to free themselves before but Obama sided with the mullahs and wouldn't give a hand.
Posted by: Decaf at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (unUNN)
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (8hZNI)
The word "checkmate" comes from the ancient Persian ""shāh māt", meaning "The king is dead" (or in some translations,"The king is helpless").
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (pMi6S)
Of course there was no Lord Kalvan, just some adventurers looking for a planet to settle. But the guy gets the princess anyway.
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Piper's biographer, John Carr, I think, mentioned that H. Beam Piper pitched that story first but an editor mentioned that it might sell better if pitched into his popular Paratime series.
The earlier story was the missing link between Omnilingual and the TFH world by way of the planet Freya mentioned in later stories. The reason is that the doomed Martians sent expeditions to Earth AND Freya.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Piper at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (p4NUW)
a shame we don't have a few dozen pallets of Liberator pistols left over from WW2 laying around; help that process along a bit ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (/Ghsb)
I grew up in the 80s, and all the smartest people said the same about the Soviet Union. Didn't hear that for long in the 90s however.
Posted by: Bete at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (LX4y3)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (u73oe)
commandos? No undies?
Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (8hZNI)
Just don't drone about it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (ynpvh)
______________
And what if we did? What would you do then?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (YqDXo)
It's going to take Israel quite a while to pick all of the pieces of the Mullah's asses off Netanyahu's boots.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (N39Ws)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (/Ghsb)
The Israelis should have targeted him in their first wave of strikes.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (uZ2FS)
11 dead was the last number I saw...with a few hundred injured.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (OtB33)
So, Anyway, could you do us a really big favor and call off the Little Sata, we mean, the Zionist..um, Israel. We'd really appreciate it. You guys are the best!
Posted by: Overheard on the backchannel at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (PiwSw)
We can't even get an accurate count on how many of the videos of rockets hitting Israel are real and not AI or video game footage?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (e7kz6)
The picture of three israeli jets stacked up in a residential block used to justify the missile tat hit it by Iran is fake. Israel only uses 2 at a time.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (8avO+)
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What makes you think that?
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (TN0g+)
Please let the response be "Drop your request off with our ambassador at our embassy and we will let you know in 444 days. Regards, President Donald J. Trump"
Posted by: Chuck C
Nice!
Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (Dv3i1)
Jewish News Syndicate CEO Alex Traiman says the Obama and Biden administrations “helped make this day a reality” by helping Iran “advance their nuclear program and fund their terror proxies.” Israel launched massive airstrikes on Iranian military and nuclear sites Thursday night, reportedly killing multiple high-level Iranian generals.
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (NFX2v)
FYI, a peer or near peer threat needs a robust infrastructure, trained personnel, and a good OOB.
Iran will soon possess none of that. So the IDF / IAF needs to continue to pound Iran. Until there is absolutely no threat left. Strong victories lead to longer peaces.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (u82oZ)
Entombment is not a bad option, especially if one is counting on regime change. The stuff in Fordow will deteriorate (equipment and storage). The nuclear material will be there, but if you can hardly get to it, ?
And recovering nuke material from the mess that could result over time would be a bit of a challenge.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 05:50 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Piper at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (p4NUW)
________________
The new one is white, with a brown streak on it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 05:50 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2025 05:45 PM (VE6XX)
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Gotta love the left. Their only success is lurching from failure to failure.
Posted by: blake
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They remind me of the old comedy play/movie. How to Succeed Without Even Trying with the commentary in the book on marketing chief.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:50 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 16, 2025 05:35 PM
The Flying Machine you say?
That was a club in Ft.Laud in the 70's
Posted by: Captain Fantastic at June 16, 2025 05:50 PM (aUqcU)
Posted by: n
Strongly disagree. You are talking beyond any relevant strategy knowledge, and it shows.
Posted by: NaCly
yeah, we are not bringing tankers home, and we have no business refueling our air assets or Israels.
Israel was entirely aware of its capability and capacity befor it went into iran and anticipated we would be brought in eventually.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:50 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: Leupold at June 16, 2025 05:51 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 16, 2025 05:48 PM (u73oe)
I don't mind an honest asshole.
Helps keep the air here from being too santized.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:51 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 16, 2025 05:51 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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No one else possesses a MOAB. That has to be us or it won't get done.
Trump has offered Russia to negotiate between Israel and Iran.
That takes care of Russia and leaves Chyna out. Trump is freezing Xi out because of his intransigence.
India and most of the South China Sea region has the hots for Chyna. Xi's not so stupid to make a move now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (DS3M8)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (/Ghsb)
Iran will soon possess none of that. So the IDF / IAF needs to continue to pound Iran. Until there is absolutely no threat left. Strong victories lead to longer peaces.
Posted by: NaCly
it is a matter of capability and capacity, idf was not designed to do what its is doing
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: Leupold at June 16, 2025 05:51 PM (4pwAx)
Probably for the same reason that some Americans hate America and the Constitution.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: ... at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (skGot)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (P9gC0)
Posted by: Gref
It's almost as if the UN was a worthless commie infested graft bag drain on American money.
Posted by: Auspex at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (j4U/Z)
I could only think, the poor dog...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (ynpvh)
yeah has to be a bitch if somebody want to discuss the entirety of something.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (Rf/lg)
Certainly, the Biden White House knew about it.
Posted by: dantesed
If I'm any non-Leftist Israeli PM, I wouldn't tell the US sh!t about the plans for what we've seen. I'll give them some boilerplate planning info. To keep them from looking hard for real plans.
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: ... at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (P9gC0)
You'd have to get them off the reservation first.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (P9gC0)
What Blighty needs right now is Comanches.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:49 PM (OtB33)
Yeah I saw something similar.
So the Mossad has killed more nuke scientists with car bombs than Iran has killed innocent civilians by practicing "spray and pray" with ballistic missiles.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (skGot)
In 2027 we will get to see The Scwartz Awakens."
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (skGot)
The reviews will be turgid.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2025 05:47 PM (BI5O2)
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For a retard, he sure is good at outmaneuvering all his enemies.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: ... at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (E0p3T)
We have some deep penetrators (GBU-57A/B MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator). The combination of MOAB overpressure to seal air vents and deep penetrators is a good combo for an under a mountain complex.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (akw+7)
Stick around for tomorrow's rant for more on that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (OtB33)
Having never been part of the military I do not know what an OOB is. Can you let me know?
Thanks. I think it's not some creature that C.S. Lewis was going to name for a creature in LOTR before he changed it to ORCs. 😊
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 16, 2025 05:54 PM (akw+7)
Leukemia?
Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (jgmnb)
HEY YOU
Hope you are well.
Posted by: ...
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Had a series of health challenges recently. Was recovering from complications of my chronic problems when I got bit by a spider and got cellulitis.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (ctrM5)
nobody got to vote here about how Israel wants to spend our money
Posted by: n
If they're paying us for the gear they use, what's the problem?
Posted by: FeatherBlade at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (hB7mE)
This is how pets mysteriously get Monkey Pox
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (e7kz6)
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (WYStd)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (aBgBM)
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And I'd assume that anything I told Biden would cc'ed to Tehran before I left the lobby of the building.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (YqDXo)
Order of Battle. The basic nuts and bolts of how a military is equipped, organized and deployed.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (/Ghsb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (skGot)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (wBaIH)
During PRIDE MONTH?
AYFKM
Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (dqDDR)
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (ctrM5)
Fuck me I will keep praying. You have been missed.
Posted by: ... at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (E0p3T)
Posted by: Feather
when was Israel doing that? ARe they writing checks for two carrier groups and our tankers?
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (OtB33)
———
That’s what she said
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (5VzWu)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (skGot)
Stuff like "we downed three F-35s" and "we've hacked the internet and radar of Israel."
I keep seeing a lot of these claims/rumors. Then no confirmation or they are exposed as frauds.
But I do like the AI of the downed F-35 that would, from the measured angles and known lengths, in real life, be 328 feet long
And all the people near 10 feet tall that are there viewing the "wreckage."
I guess "inventing" algebra never lead them to that mathematical magic.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (ztAau)
Huzzah! So glad you are back with us.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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I tried to be a Weeble in wobbling but I fell down. Then I got a spider bite and cellulitis. I am a bit afraid I am now uninsurable as to accidental death and dismemberment insurance.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Donald J. Trump, First of His Name at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: torabora at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (dqDDR)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (DS3M8)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (xIkyh)
Thanks. I probably should just leave when you folks use military abbreviations .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (2GCMq)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (BI5O2)
I agree
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (VE6XX)
The Iranian news woman is going to sprout a hundred memes.
Finally Hitler can take a break.
Posted by: Diogenes
Our long nightmare is over: We finally have a Bagdad Bob replacement.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (OtB33)
———
That’s what she said
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (5VzWu)
GUB or GBU?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2025 05:57 PM (BI5O2)
Meanwhile, in Ukraine....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (xcxpd)
Something Russia does not have over Ukraine by the way. So if Iran is "winning", the metrics would have Russia lossing.
Posted by: Bete at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (LX4y3)
Stick around for tomorrow's rant for more on that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
it is not going to do anything to the deeper bunkers.
If we hav info about bunker busters so would th iranians.
Why would they build shallow enough for the busters to hit the facilities?
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (Rf/lg)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (xcxpd)
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He was planning an historical novel about Gonsalvo de Cordoba called "Only the Arquebus." Would've been interesting.
Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (6YdsJ)
Stop Iran from exporting oil, and China is in big economic trouble.
They would need more pipelines from Russia.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (u82oZ)
nobody got to vote here about how Israel wants to spend our money
Posted by: n
If they're paying us for the gear they use, what's the problem?
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Considering all of the things that "our money" got spent on during Obamas and Biden's presidencies and all of the things that were pure graft during the last 40 years, IF Israel wants to destroy Iran's war-making ability with some of "our money" I won't object.
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (skGot)
Having never been part of the military I do not know what an OOB is. Can you let me know?
Thanks. I think it's not some creature that C.S. Lewis was going to name for a creature in LOTR before he changed it to ORCs. 😊
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2025 05:55 PM (2GCMq)
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Officer of Boobs
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (5VzWu)
This is how pets mysteriously get Monkey Pox
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (e7kz6)
You ever take a good look at their employees?
Posted by: Eromero at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (jgmnb)
I grew up in the 80s, and all the smartest people said the same about the Soviet Union. Didn't hear that for long in the 90s however.
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Nothing much happened in Syria until one day, Assad's troops all decided to walk off the job
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (Dnobf)
One guy I saw even said this could be the end of Israel if it continues another week.
Same people who think 8 million people showed at No Kings parties.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (/CkK4)
(PS -- Who was in charge of the Entebbe raid? Yonatan Netanyahu, the PM's brother.)
Posted by: zombie at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (pMi6S)
And recovering nuke material from the mess that could result over time would be a bit of a challenge.
Posted by: rhomboid at June 16, 2025 05:50 PM
Once those centrifuges stop spinning everything in that facility is toast. They use uranium hexaflouride to enrich the U235. uranium hexaflouride is extremely corrosive and reacts badly to an oxygen environment.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (e5NfL)
Posted by: Yud
it is not the desire but the capability and capacity, Israel has not finished gaza, no way theyre doing iran
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (Rf/lg)
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (uZ2FS)
Posted by: PJ at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (RRCAT)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (Rf/lg)
They're paying for it by putting their son's and daughter's asses on the line to destroy our enemy.
Seems like a win-win for everyone involved. Except of course the Iranians.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (WYStd)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (xcxpd)
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He was planning an historical novel about Gonsalvo de Cordoba called "Only the Arquebus." Would've been interesting.
Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 16, 2025 05:59 PM (6YdsJ)
He's a really good writer. Good at characters and imagination, while being very grounded in what people are like.
Damn shame him killing himself just when Little Fuzzy was about to hit the big time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (ynpvh)
GBU.
Fimble fungers!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (OtB33)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (u82oZ)
Thanks for that--I didn't know, either!
Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (h7ZuX)
Trump has offered Russia to negotiate between Israel and Iran.
That takes care of Russia and leaves Chyna out. Trump is freezing Xi out because of his intransigence.
India and most of the South China Sea region has the hots for Chyna. Xi's not so stupid to make a move now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (DS3M
China is worried about getting oil shipments from there, naturally enough. A quick calm down benefits them. Russia has an interest in a lack of unrest there too and wanting the west off their borders. I think they could be trusted to implement deals made to operate civilian plants in Iran to remove the excuse for nuke research and give Iran reliable power.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (8avO+)
But I recently saw him doing some interview with a country music singer where he was just asking questions about if the Scofield Reference Bible was a plot by the Rothschilds to turn the Christians of the West into Zionist cucks.
At that point, I just shut it off.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (Rf/lg)
A little too retarded to recognize that these are 2 fronts in the same conflict.
How's Hezbollah doing, right now?
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (uZ2FS)
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Pulled this out of a Tehran media site. (Hamshahri Online Tehran).
That's a shame. Who wants pie?
Posted by: Orson at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (dIske)
Military abbreviations and acronyms can be a curse to understanding. But I for one do not mind unpacking the details to foster wider knowledge.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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No one else possesses a MOAB. That has to be us or it won't get done.
Trump has offered Russia to negotiate between Israel and Iran.
That takes care of Russia and leaves Chyna out. Trump is freezing Xi out because of his intransigence.
India and most of the South China Sea region has the hots for Chyna. Xi's not so stupid to make a move now.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (DS3M
Is it possible to dump a laser-guided half-MOAB out the back of a C-130? C-130s can be refuelled and be survivable once the IAF acSeveral of those in the succession at the same point may get deep enough. If we can build a MOAB, Israel can build similar munitions. I have to think the Israelis have the means to do it; they would be fools to totally rely on the US to do the necessary job(s), given the policies of the last two Democrat Presidents and the possibility of fellow travelers being elected POTUS.
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (Rf/lg)
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You know this how? For not having the capacity to do Iran they're sure kicking a lot of ass there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 06:02 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 05:58 PM (NXz8h)
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Tehran Taqiyya.
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 16, 2025 06:02 PM (hEHjM)
I mean, they probably didn't think that was the case they were making, but they were quite convincing.
Posted by: gKWVE at June 16, 2025 06:02 PM (gKWVE)
Posted by: ... at June 16, 2025 05:52 PM (E0p3T)
Well said.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 16, 2025 06:02 PM (i24o9)
Piper proves one does not need 300,000 words to write a story with subplots.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 06:02 PM (skGot)
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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So far, my spidey derived senses have been dulled by the nasty antibiotics I am on.
I hope to be able to do the Spider Dance from the Coupling series in the near future.
https://tinyurl.com/d3t3aujr
Clip goes to the BBC and is about one minute.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (ctrM5)
I guess "inventing" algebra never lead them to that mathematical magic.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
Just like Europe and two world wars removing the good IQ from the gene pool...the crusades removed the smart ones from Persia, leaving the inbred cousin phucking violent ones.
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (MsrgL)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (Rf/lg)
Israel can't occupy Iran, its nuts. They have to make them quit then leave them alone.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (DS3M8)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (xIkyh)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (a4dG3)
Posted by: Oglebay at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (MMp6W)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:53 PM (Rf/lg)
And I would encourage you, you specifically by the way, to do so.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * sporting my Andrew Breitbart attitude at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (Pqqp4)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (Rf/lg)
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They could have at any time.. They just don't want to kill everyone and they still are trying for the hostages... Plus i think we've "asked" them not too... We will see how much longer that request stands...
Posted by: It's me donna at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (VE6XX)
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That's because of their self-imposed ROEs. They could "finish gaza" in an afternoon IF they decided they no longer cared what outsiders thought.
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 06:00 PM (xcxpd)
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I believe his agent had died and left things in such disarray that one or more large checks didn't get to him timely.
Posted by: Captain Obvious. Laird o' the Sea at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (6YdsJ)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (MsrgL)
Islam entered a very conservative area and crushed out a promising cultural growth in Persia and Central Asian areas. Then the Mongols showed up.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Oldcat
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They have to kill all of the old regime leaders.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (DS3M8)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (KBTLB)
Russia would be delighted with a rise in oil prices. Oil exports keep Russia from imploding economically.
The EU is already funding the Moscow war effort by buying hydrocarbons from Russia. This is a big own goal given the EU's disastrous energy policies.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 06:04 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 06:01 PM
Bravo Zulu
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (SiRut)
Not planning to see him.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (skGot)
- they never existed
- they prefer a free Iran and will go home once this is over.
Posted by: Wardo at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (Oal3t)
Posted by: toby928 at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (jc0TO)
Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (xIkyh)
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Nonsense. I can hear them singing ‘hava nagila’ from here. They are loving every bomb Israel drops.
Posted by: Elric the Bladiest Blade at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (5VzWu)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (63Dwl)
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How about a dozen at a time daisy chained together and separated by 15-second intervals?
An infidel can dream ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Busy Organizing 'Make Trump King' Protests at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (hEHjM)
I am amazed that they can't manage to put together some semblance of an Armed Forces to take out the fucking Houthi?
They've been in a Proxy Conflict with Iran for well over a Dozen years now and they still won't get off their asses and raze Yemen.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (uZ2FS)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
so heres the thing, I have been a supporter of Israel since I was in jrhigh and my thoughts about Israels right to exist and self defense are essentially the same as Begins's
However, that does not mean I agree with everything they do or think they hve the ability to do anything.
your a math guy, they do not have a force with the range to do what they need to do in iran, its too far away and has too much space.
If yo have a friend who wants to do something stupid, you should suggest otherwise even if he hates you for doing so.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:06 PM (35K0H)
Posted by: Elrond Hubbard at June 16, 2025 06:07 PM (7NkZG)
Media (under Biden): Tricksey Biden tricked us!
Media (under 47): Trump knew nothing about Israel attacking Iran! Haha! Stupid Trumpster got fooled!
Trump: I kinda did, tho.
Media: Trump vetoed assassination attempt on Iran leader. Haha Israel! You got spanked!
Tomorrow Trump: Nah bro, never happened, he dead now, tho.
America: Stupid and easily fooled seems a bit generous of an assessment, yeah?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 16, 2025 06:07 PM (ztAau)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (Rf/lg)
The people in the know that it was impossible to defeat the Soviet Union were also the people in the know that most of the tank units in East Germany were non-functional as tanks and that Tafta was a real economic issue, not just sandbagging Russian workers.
Posted by: Kindltot at June 16, 2025 06:07 PM (D7oie)
You know this how? For not having the capacity to do Iran they're sure kicking a lot of ass there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
And unlike gaza, where the restless natives are 99.999% violent assholes...the Persians are a larger group of people held hostage by a stasi dictator. Cut the head off the snake, and the body dies. Gaza needs the whole body removed, including the fungus rot brain (Hamas)
Posted by: BifBewalski - at June 16, 2025 06:07 PM (MsrgL)
Posted by: It's me
no, not enough manpower, not enough resources and they made the stupid decision to raze everything which is easier for the jihadis.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:07 PM (35K0H)
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 16, 2025 06:07 PM (P9gC0)
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Houston had 10k according to official estimates. Los Angeles had 25k.
For both those cities it’s about 0.1-0.2% of the metro area population. population.
8M would represent about 2.4% of the national population.
The math ain’t mathing as the kids would say.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (/CkK4)
Posted by: gnats local 675 at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (rvwwT)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (xcxpd)
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He was planning an historical novel about Gonsalvo de Cordoba called "Only the Arquebus." Would've been interesting.
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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Murder in the Gunroom is Piper's attempt at a non sci fi mystery. Available at Project Gutenberg for free or Amazon has cheap printed copies.
Uneven but lots of gub talk.
Scuttlebutt is that Piper completed Only the Arquebus and the story is considered lost. Piper's third Fuzzy book was found and published so mebbe someone will pop up on Antiques Roadshow with a copy someday.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (ctrM5)
Stuff like "we downed three F-35s" and "we've hacked the internet and radar of Israel."
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I banged Netanyahu's mom
Posted by: @khomani.iran.gov at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (Dnobf)
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Lovin' every minute of it
Lovin' every minute of it
Posted by: Loverboy at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (TN0g+)
Posted by: The Great Satan at June 16, 2025 06:09 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 16, 2025 06:09 PM (tA9rq)
Posted by: Bif
yeah, it is of no value to compare iran to the sovs, not the same, besides, the citzens of the sov were not that fond of Stalijn when hitler started ww2, but they fought because they hated hitler more than Stalin.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:09 PM (35K0H)
I am amazed that they can't manage to put together some semblance of an Armed Forces to take out the fucking Houthi?
They've been in a Proxy Conflict with Iran for well over a Dozen years now and they still won't get off their asses and raze Yemen.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (uZ2FS)
Arab v Arab and Muslim v Muslim is not done. Although Nasser tried to subjugate the Yemeni rebels back in the Sixties. He didn't succeed and got a lot of Egyptian boys killed. Sometimes called Egypt's Vietnam.
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 06:09 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: The Great Satan at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 06:02 PM (YqDXo)
You need infantry to hold ground. Always has and always will be true.
First thing Russia had to do in Ukraine was was redesign their units to have more infantry and integral heavy weapons for taking entrenched defenders. Doesn't look as good in parades but when push comes to shove its what you need.
And eventually even those nice aircraft will have to stand down for maintenance and rest. It takes an infinite number of bombs to reduce a country like Iran.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (8avO+)
At this point, the Amber Room has a better chance of reappearing.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 06:11 PM (skGot)
Posted by: The Great Satan at June 16, 2025 06:11 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (PiwSw)
kick out anyone from the west, the US included. IDF grunts can distribute food and supplies as well as anyone else. Better.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:12 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 06:12 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: Loverboy at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (TN0g+)
I can argue with Ace on a lot of things...
but not on his opinion of Loverboy.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 06:12 PM (uZ2FS)
Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 16, 2025 06:12 PM (xIkyh)
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 16, 2025 06:13 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: gnats local 675 at June 16, 2025 06:13 PM (CWTWj)
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They tried to say 20K were at the Austin one. Weren't even 20hundred.
Posted by: sharksauce at June 16, 2025 06:13 PM (vWZoA)
The ayatollah looking for the Shashank redemption?
Posted by: haffhowershower at June 16, 2025 06:13 PM (144I4)
I bet Trump remembers.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 16, 2025 06:13 PM (ztAau)
And eventually even those nice aircraft will have to stand down for maintenance and rest. It takes an infinite number of bombs to reduce a country like Iran.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (8avO+)
This is a different kind of war - Iran and Israel are a thousand miles apart, and nobody is sending any ground soldiers anywhere. This is an air and missile war, to end when either one side has received enough pain, or when one of the governments collapses.
Right now, Iran's government is inching very close to complete collapse.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 06:14 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 06:09 PM (aBgBM)
Oooops! Except for Sunni Muslim v Shia Muslim!!!!
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 06:14 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 06:02 PM (YqDXo)
You need infantry to hold ground. Always has and always will be true.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (8avO+)
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Sure, but "doing Iran" doesn't necessarily imply occupying it, which would be madness. Bombing the living bejesus of it, OTOH, as they appear to be doing, is another story.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 16, 2025 06:14 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:15 PM (35K0H)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 05:46 PM (Rf/lg)
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Iran is just getting a little push to defeat itself. Their infrastructure has been falling apart for the last decade. 90% of their healthcare is outdated. Nearly 60% of their ambulances no longer run. They are applying forced labor in mines. 1/3 of all schools are in unsafe buildings with roof cave ins on a weekly basis. Over 1/3 of the electrical grid is outdated and non-repairable. This is highlighted by the corrupt Theocracy selling electricity to other countries while not meeting its own needs.
Add to that an inflation rate that will hit 50% within less than two years....and you have a REVOLUTION.
Posted by: Orson at June 16, 2025 06:15 PM (dIske)
Posted by: runner at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (nQcpu)
Then they pass the TO down the chain so the various FSCORDs can track what happens and provide BDA.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (W/lyH)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
I would love to see them do a good Fuzzy Sapiens movie, its such great sci fi, disguised as cute furry critters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (e7kz6)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (a4dG3)
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 06:14 PM (uWKK
I remember when we thought that about Iraq after Hussein was caught and hanged.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (i24o9)
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No
finish it
there will never be another opportunity like this
Israel is so close to completely destroying one of the worst regimes on the planet
Finish it
No mercy
Posted by: Don Black at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:10 PM (8avO+)
I don't think thats really the goal of Israel.
They are going after the elements of the Iranian regime that pose a threat to the safety and security of the Israeli state. Aka the Nuke facilities and the ballistic missile launchers and military/intelligence leadership.
In the process, I think its clear that Israel is neutering the all-hat-no-cattle Iranian regime so that the populace has a chance to rise up and overthrow their oppressors.
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (WYStd)
Posted by: runner at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (nQcpu)
Posted by: gp Feels So Smoochie at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (XqSVb)
I am amazed that they can't manage to put together some semblance of an Armed Forces to take out the fucking Houthi?
They've been in a Proxy Conflict with Iran for well over a Dozen years now and they still won't get off their asses and raze Yemen.
Posted by: garrett at June 16, 2025 06:05 PM (uZ2FS)
The Saudi problem is that they are just an elite with wealth. They have no loyal populace and arming and training them makes them a threat to the elite too.
Trumps talk of diverting funds to real industry and development might change that. Barring that, in the old old days hiring mercs to do the cleaning for them might have been the thing to do. Of course, the Britons inviting in the Anglo Saxons didnt work so well for them. Life has dangers.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (8avO+)
Right now, Iran's government is inching very close to complete collapse.
Posted by: Tom
Iran has bunches of jihadis within walking distance of Israel that hat Israelis, Israel, not so much with iran.
Israel has no expeditionary ability
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (35K0H)
Posted by: Weasel at June 16, 2025 06:03 PM (a4dG3)
Being oppressed by Jews has to be good for a ew rungs up the progressive stack, surely.
Posted by: Methos at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Loverboy at June 16, 2025 06:08 PM (TN0g+)
I can argue with Ace on a lot of things...
but not on his opinion of Loverboy.
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If I had a night of beers with Ace, I'd spend an hour of it listening to "Operation: Mindcrime" in an attempt to get him to see the light regarding Queensryche. "Operation: Mindcrime" is metal's equivalent to Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon"--I'm gobsmacked that its not more widely revered as such. Epic writing, epic musicianship, simply a marvel.
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (TN0g+)
I was meh on Loverboy (kinda overplayed in my youth) but "Notorious" was a great video
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (e7kz6)
Knocking out Iranian electrical power generation and electrical distribution networks are well within the power of the IAF.
A country without power in the 21st Century is mission-killed. Does not matter how many in their Army, if they have no power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (u82oZ)
Then they pass the TO down the chain so the various FSCORDs can track what happens and provide BDA.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (W/lyH)
NASA can give DoD a run for the acronym money.
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 06:09 PM (aBgBM)
The Saudi Air Force is pretty good, trained by the US and from reports has a very professional ethic. The rest of Saudi's armed forces are somewhere between useless and pathetic. Arab countries really haven't been capable of putting together disciplined, useful armies for about 6 centuries now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (uWKK8)
Yes, Israel has pretty much decapitated the Iranian leadership, but that still leaves lot of Basiji and IRGC lower down who have become used to wallowing in graft and power. I don't think they will give either up willingly.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (2XtqA)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:07 PM (35K0H)
Nonsense. They didn't raze everyrhing. Where are you getting this crap?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (wGPHk)
I know this because I watched every Saturday with the lucky guy I married.
Iran is losing, bigly. Good. No one other than our illegal bastard cartels deserves it more.
Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (6PCLE)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:15 PM (35K0H)
if wishes and butts were candies and nuts...
Posted by: Defenestratus at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (WYStd)
And then forbid any attempt to destroy it, allowing Iran to recover it for reverse engineering?
Totally not related to the fact that Iran is now sending drones to attack Israel.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (ztAau)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (elO/o)
LOL. I will buy you drinks if you dance like that on Saturday night at the Tx MoMeet.
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I will sure in the heck do it if I can talk my PT therapist into the virtues of movement.
Coupling is a hilarious series albeit spicy.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (ctrM5)
Then they pass the TO down the chain so the various FSCORDs can track what happens and provide BDA.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (W/lyH)
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He said he’s in pain and wants to know if you can help him.
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Posted by: Hokey Pokey at June 16, 2025 06:19 PM (QSrLX)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
I would love to see them do a good Fuzzy Sapiens movie, its such great sci fi, disguised as cute furry critters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (e7kz6)
Korea might be able to do it. Not Hollywood.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:19 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 06:19 PM (xcxpd)
Add to that an inflation rate that will hit 50% within less than two years....and you have a REVOLUTION.
Posted by: Ors
it is nice if true, but it has been a disaster since the shahs
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:19 PM (35K0H)
Right now, Iran's government is inching very close to complete collapse.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 06:14 PM (uWKK
It really isn't even a war. It's a murder. A righteous and well deserved murder.
"Iran", meaning the Islamic Republic, is basically a fake country anyway. Pants the ruling junta in front of the world and there's no mystery left to keep them propped up. A handful of judicious explosions and the whole thing collapses like a shitty old worn out office tower under a controlled detonation.
The only thing that kept anyone from risking it was the nasty web of shitty maniacs swearing fealty to the mullahs. Recent events have shown them to be weak sisters, too, so no reason not to finally wipe this splatter off the windshield of history once and for all, is there?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (BcT2b)
Tucker took a really weird jag recently that confirms my opinion that he has no core values except for what will make him rich. He picked a side to stand out and be the voice of a certain position because he figured it would get him famous and rich again. He chose poorly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (e7kz6)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (qUkBO)
Knowing our luck, they will adapt the John Scalzi butchering of Little Fuzzy into the screenplay.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (skGot)
Is eager to leavecthe G-7 circle jerk and get back to the USA and solve the 'Iranian problem'.
YMMV but it might be smart to put money ( ie invest) with the idea that President Trump will make Khameni an offer he can't refuse.
There will be many overwhelming troubles remaining in the world -- not the least of which is Trump's own CIA and its commitment to manufacturing trouble --but Iran is about to be much less of a problem. Trump is on the Iran case and he means business.
Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (FCPbW)
Right now, Iran's government is inching very close to complete collapse.
Posted by: Tom
Iran has bunches of jihadis within walking distance of Israel that hat Israelis, Israel, not so much with iran.
Israel has no expeditionary ability
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (35K0H)
Say, n, when does the Iranian sub fleet put to sea and sink oil tankers by the dozens in the Indian Ocean? Any day now?
Posted by: Gref at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: runner at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM
He has pulled a howard stern move. Got really famous and let it go to his head. Started hanging out with celebs and other *famous* people, he got infected.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (e5NfL)
And then forbid any attempt to destroy it, allowing Iran to recover it for reverse engineering?
Totally not related to the fact that Iran is now sending drones to attack Israel.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 16, 2025 06:18 PM (ztAau)
Already sent to Russia for copying and attacking Ukraine. Oops.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (8avO+)
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Same as always , his ass?
Posted by: runner at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (nQcpu)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:15 PM (35K0H)
if wishes and butts were candies and nuts...
Posted by: Defene
is anybody even considering that the evil mullahs might have figured out fifo?
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (35K0H)
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As I remember Iran hijacked the f'n thing and stole it ...
Posted by: Wardo at June 16, 2025 06:21 PM (Oal3t)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
I would love to see them do a good Fuzzy Sapiens movie, its such great sci fi, disguised as cute furry critters.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 06:16 PM (e7kz6)
Mini-series maybe. 6 episodes is about right.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 06:21 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: gp Feels So Smoochie at June 16, 2025 06:21 PM (XqSVb)
Even back then they only held together, temporarily, because of a single dynamic, brilliant leader.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 16, 2025 06:21 PM (e7kz6)
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Same as always , his ass?
Posted by: runner
yeah, it is the precision 2000 lb bombs they were demanding
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:21 PM (35K0H)
Knowing our luck, they will adapt the John Scalzi butchering of Little Fuzzy into the screenplay.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 16, 2025 06:20 PM (skGot)
Don't give them any ideas....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 06:22 PM (xcxpd)
Posted by: Molly k. at June 16, 2025 06:22 PM (j/yko)
Then say the DOJ should charge Obama with treason.
Unless Obama wants to invoke the immunity the SCOTUS found for official acts in US v. Trump?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 16, 2025 06:22 PM (ztAau)
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"First In, First Out"?
I was told there would be no accounting.
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 06:23 PM (TN0g+)
Israel has no expeditionary ability
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (35K0H)
who you talking about, Hamas? Hezbollah? Looks like those players are off the table. (in fact Hezbollah just completely crawfished from supporting Iran) But maybe you mean Syria - who's leader just invited Israel to use it's airspace to knock down Iranian missiles and drones. (he knows which side is going to win) Jordan is being quiet as a churchmouse, and the Egyptians just beat up a pack of westerners that came over and tried to stir up some pro-Gaza action.
Meanwhile 80 million Persians are getting ready to revolt.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 06:23 PM (uWKK8)
Posted by: tcn in AK at June 16, 2025 06:23 PM (a4NoL)
Posted by: Uncle Sams Cousin Moishe at June 16, 2025 06:23 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: eleven at June 16, 2025 06:23 PM (fV+MH)
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2h
🔴 BREAKING:
Reports of a massive prison break in Iran. Hundreds of convicts seen walking alongside the road in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Don Black at June 16, 2025 06:23 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Crusader at June 16, 2025 06:24 PM (TN0g+)
And everyone else not named Trump for years and years and across continents. I'd say Iran was playing the right odds given decades of precedent. It finally caught up to them, but there's still opportunity for "the West" to screw it up again.
Expediting peace right now is a bad move. Short-term, it would be, I suppose, popular. Long-term, counterproductive. No, the regime needs to experience a lot more, lasting pain to break their reflexive behaviors to be anti-Semitic above all and everything.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at June 16, 2025 06:24 PM (gLikB)
Knocking out Iranian electrical power generation and electrical distribution networks are well within the power of the IAF.
A country without power in the 21st Century is mission-killed. Does not matter how many in their Army, if they have no power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (u82oZ)
For a while, but forever is a long time and Iran is a big place. Hardening their power system is possible and well within capabilities. A waste of money but so was the terror war vs Israel.
A country has got to know their limitations.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:25 PM (8avO+)
Meanwhile 80 million Persians are getting ready to revolt.
Posted by: Tom
theres no shortage of guys within walking distance of Israel that hate Israel
Everybody has been saying irans going to g since the shahs not reason to thin so now.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:25 PM (35K0H)
Posted by: toby928 at June 16, 2025 06:26 PM (jc0TO)
Iran has bunches of jihadis within walking distance of Israel that hat Israelis, Israel, not so much with iran.
Israel has no expeditionary ability
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:17 PM (35K0H)
Pay attention to reality. Israel has no desire to occupy one inch of Iran. The goal is to destroy their ability to build nukes and theater ballistic missiles.
That's it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 06:27 PM (wGPHk)
Posted by: gnats local 675 at June 16, 2025 06:27 PM (CWTWj)
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Agreed. Iranian people and Gazans are two different cultures.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at June 16, 2025 06:28 PM (DS3M8)
Meanwhile 80 million Persians are getting ready to revolt.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 16, 2025 06:23 PM (uWKK
Syria was propped up by the Turks which got Iran and Russia out of the region. Remains to be seen if this has down the road issues.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:29 PM (8avO+)
Pournelle never did the sequel after doing some investigatory work because of the sheer amount of historical work needed to write it.
Passed it off to John Karr.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 06:30 PM (ctrM5)
That's it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
I have never suggested Israel was going to go into iran with boots they have no ability to do so.
it is also so that they do not have capability or capacity to destroy irans military or bomb sites without our assistance, which nobody voted for.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:31 PM (35K0H)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at June 16, 2025 06:33 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
This is exactly correct. Netanyahu stated this with clarity over the weekend.
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 06:33 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:31 PM (35K0H)
I did.
I voted for Trump because i was confident he would support Israel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 16, 2025 06:34 PM (wGPHk)
I voted for Trump because i was confident he would support Israel.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
you voted for Israels geting to do whatever it decides and US covering for whatever they decide?
No way Israel has the ability to finish iran.
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:36 PM (35K0H)
Passed it off to John Karr.
Posted by: whig at June 16, 2025 06:30 PM (ctrM5)
I own Great King's War by Carr. Not awful but the end with posits that the Gunpowder God had true believers refutes Piper's postulate for the world. There are other sequels out there on Amazon but I have not read them.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:36 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Alter
Israel has no ability to occupy iran
Posted by: n at June 16, 2025 06:36 PM (35K0H)
If you're a gun/history guy or gal, it's really, really good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at June 16, 2025 05:56 PM (xcxpd)
John F Carr wrote several sequels to LKoO and GKW. He does a very good job of staying true to Piper. I recommend the books.
Posted by: KwaK! at June 16, 2025 06:37 PM (89Sog)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 06:38 PM (NXz8h)
Posted by: KwaK! at June 16, 2025 06:37 PM (89Sog)
Also some sequels to Space Viking IIRC, though maybe not by Carr
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:38 PM (8avO+)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram - My President has convictions. at June 16, 2025 06:38 PM (NXz8h)
Doing some accurate reporting of news would have been a start.
Posted by: Oldcat at June 16, 2025 06:39 PM (8avO+)
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