Mid-Morning Art Thread

Serviceman's Wife
Ivan G. Olinsky

Posted by: CBD at 09:40 AM

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1 Lovely portrait.

Posted by: Tuna at June 06, 2025 09:42 AM (lJ0H4)

2 It's no Rothko.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 06, 2025 09:42 AM (JkO4W)

3 Wink nod

Posted by: Commissar of plenty and festive little hats at June 06, 2025 09:43 AM (+E2T+)

4 She looks something like Kim Darby in True Grit (the original and still the better film). Her face as depicted here is pretty, yes, but it also has character.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:43 AM (omVj0)

5 Meh.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 09:43 AM (f2Dcn)

6 portrait of actress i can't name.

Posted by: cmeat at June 06, 2025 09:43 AM (8HmRF)

7 Guessing Russian but will see

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2025 09:43 AM (+qU29)

8 S A A M

Title
Serviceman’s Wife
Artist
Ivan G. Olinsky
Date
ca.1942
Location
Not on view
Dimensions
36 x 30 1⁄8 in. (91.4 x 76.5 cm)
Credit Line
Bequest of Henry Ward Ranger through the National Academy of Design
Mediums
oil
Mediums Description
oil on canvas

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (gbOdA)

9 "Of, fine, paint me if you must, but I have to get dinner going. . ."

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (F/B4x)

10 Willowed, but important.

But it doesn’t mention anything specific since there is no cuts. It’s vaporware.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at June 06, 2025 09:35 AM (NDtFP)

Work on reading comprehension. There are $1.6 Trillion in spending cuts. That's the largest rollback of government spending in US history.

Some specific cuts:
1 - Medicaid eliminated for illegals.
2 - IRS funding of 87,000 new agents gone
3 - Ends funding of abortions abroad
4 - Defunds Planned Parenthood
5 - Removes all federal Diversity czars
6 - Removes all federal funding for minor trans surgery
7 - Removes all funding to the UN's various woke agencies

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (oSeBJ)

11 Yellow is not her color. She looks like she has hepatitis.

Posted by: huerfano at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (n2swS)

12 Cute chick.

Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (77rzZ)

13 portrait of actress i can't name.
Posted by: cmeat at June 06, 2025

***
Though she's dark-haired, she also has some Anne Heche to her look.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (omVj0)

14 It's string beans tonight, sailors.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (JkO4W)

15 Born in Ukraine but came here fairly early

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2025 09:45 AM (+qU29)

16 Only thing as hard as being a serviceman’s wife would be being a serviceman’s mother.

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2025 09:45 AM (f6qDm)

17 Dressed up awfully fancy for trimming green beans.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 06, 2025 09:45 AM (ftFVW)

18 I like that bowl. And I see the prototype for the original floating shelf.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 06, 2025 09:45 AM (0W39z)

19 "Is there anything else around here that needs some attention Ma'am?

*wink, wink, know what I mean?*

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 09:45 AM (cYBz/)

20 scarlett johansen?

Posted by: cmeat at June 06, 2025 09:45 AM (8HmRF)

21 nice piece. She ain't hawt, but she strong - physically and emotionally. My kinda gal

Posted by: Otto Pen at June 06, 2025 09:46 AM (sJHOI)

22 Not busty enough to be ScarJo.

Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 09:46 AM (77rzZ)

23 Olinsky was born in Russia in 1878, emigrated to the U.S. in 1890, and died here in 1962. This painting is from 1942? Then he may have intended a U.S. serviceman's wife.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:46 AM (omVj0)

24
No dog. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2025 09:47 AM (QnmlO)

25
I like her, she seems smart

But no hang, because she won't stop looking at me
she will never stop looking at me

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 09:47 AM (AOsQT)

26 The Postman Always Rings Twice

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 06, 2025 09:47 AM (gbOdA)

27 She has the expression of a woman who just sat through an hour-long demonstration by a door-to-door vacuum salesman.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 06, 2025 09:47 AM (JkO4W)

28 scarlett johansen?
Posted by: cmeat at June 06, 2025

***
I can see that.

Love the quality of the light in the room, and the shadows on the left, her right.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:47 AM (omVj0)

29 Doesn't she have a name?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 06, 2025 09:47 AM (RIvkX)

30 Then he may have intended a U.S. serviceman's wife.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

It sure as hell wasn't a Russian soldier's wife - he painted in some food.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 09:48 AM (cYBz/)

31 He missed the festivities of 1919.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 09:48 AM (f2Dcn)

32 Very pretty picture, but her neck is definitely yellow.Would hang, thx CBD

Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 06, 2025 09:48 AM (/FXEX)

33
Morton's Salt Girl without her umbrella?

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2025 09:48 AM (Q9SSe)

34 Nice painting.

Posted by: dantesed at June 06, 2025 09:48 AM (Oy/m2)

35 27 She has the expression of a woman who just sat through an hour-long demonstration by a door-to-door vacuum salesman.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 06, 2025 09:47 AM (JkO4W)

/punchline

it is want to buy a toothbrush?

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 06, 2025 09:48 AM (gbOdA)

36
Dressed up awfully fancy for trimming green beans.
Posted by: She Hobbit at June 06, 2025 09:45 AM (ftFVW)

_________

It was a much different time. People didn't go shopping in pajamas back then.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (QnmlO)

37 Skirt should be two feet shorter.

Posted by: Leg, Pins, Stems, Man at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (G5+As)

38 It sure as hell wasn't a Russian soldier's wife - he painted in some food.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 09:48 AM (cYBz/)

Could still be Russian. That's this month's ration.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (ExV1e)

39 "Is there anything else around here that needs some attention Ma'am?"
okay, but make it quick.

Posted by: cmeat at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (8HmRF)

40 The yellow is lovely. I like how he uses it. The yellow in the skirt is used in the apples on the table and there is a shade of it in her neck. The white of the blouse is bright and pure and makes the yellow glow more, especially in the neck. This painting feels warm and wholesome, and gives a nice, pure view of the homefront. I feel like this is a nice image of what these guys were fighting for.

Posted by: Kris at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (C8YRI)

41 10 Willowed, but important.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at June 06, 2025 09:44 AM (oSeBJ)

Hello, I don't think we've been properly introduced.

Posted by: The Barrel, counting to 100 at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (pIfcn)

42 >>scarlett johansen?

Anne Hathaway?

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2025 09:50 AM (F/B4x)

43 Doesn't she have a name?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Supporting her man in the service? No, she doesn’t want to get doxxed by pantifa goons.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 06, 2025 09:50 AM (0W39z)

44 My favorite memory of my Grandma is her sitting on the steps outside the kitchen, cleaning and snapping green beans. She had hands as rough as a diesel mechanic's from a lifetime of farm work.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 09:50 AM (cYBz/)

45
Posted by: Leg, Pins, Stems, Man at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (G5+As)

________

No love for me?
*sheds tear*

Posted by: Gams at June 06, 2025 09:50 AM (QnmlO)

46 scarlett johansen?
Posted by: cmeat at June 06, 2025

***
I can see that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
_______

With some Winona Ryder.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 06, 2025 09:51 AM (ITkJX)

47 The subject matter is very Van Gogh

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 06, 2025 09:51 AM (oUlN5)

48 >>The yellow is lovely. I like how he uses it. The yellow in the skirt is used in the apples on the table and there is a shade of it in her neck. The white of the blouse is bright and pure and makes the yellow glow more, especially in the neck. This painting feels warm and wholesome, and gives a nice, pure view of the homefront. I feel like this is a nice image of what these guys were fighting for.

Exactly! Well said, Kris. As usual, you perfectly put to words the emotions a painting evokes.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 06, 2025 09:51 AM (F/B4x)

49 She has a pleasant resting food prep face.

Posted by: Guys everywhere at June 06, 2025 09:51 AM (lIgBp)

50 Leslie Caron

Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (77rzZ)

51 Once can imagine that her husband, when he met her, was immediately attracted by her eyes.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (omVj0)

52 Thought "pretty girl" and then looked at title. Fits.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (n4GiU)

53 Did her husband fight on D-Day?

Posted by: redridinghood at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (NpAcC)

54 Doesn't she have a name?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 06, 2025

***
She looks like a Ruth.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (omVj0)

55 Like the color palette a lot. Not a fan of single portraiture though I appreciate the skill.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (VofaG)

56 The fruit on the table does seem to give it depth.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (f2Dcn)

57
"Dear John" letter to follow.

Dear John,
Married your father.
Mother

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2025 09:52 AM (QnmlO)

58 She has a pleasant resting food prep face.
Posted by: Guys everywhere
________

Yet still doesn't seem pleased with the serviceman.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 06, 2025 09:53 AM (ITkJX)

59 Posted by: Leg, Pins, Stems, Man at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (G5+As)

________

No love for me?
*sheds tear*
Posted by: Gams at June 06, 2025 09:50 AM

+++
I'm sitting right here.

Posted by: Ample birthing hips at June 06, 2025 09:53 AM (lIgBp)

60 Leslie Caron
Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025

***
Some, but Audrey Hepburn seems closer.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:53 AM (omVj0)

61 29 Doesn't she have a name?
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Reading a bit into the symbolism of what she's doing, I'm going to guess Lorena Bobbitt.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at June 06, 2025 09:53 AM (JCZqz)

62 If I was the Fuller Brush Man, I'd come 'round her place weekly.

Posted by: Handy Andy at June 06, 2025 09:53 AM (G5+As)

63
The Mugging - a limerick

There once was a serviceman named Fife
Who got robbed at the point of a knife
He responded with a wheeze
Saying, "Yes sir, take her, please!"
When the mugger lisped, "Your money... or your wife!"

Posted by: muldoon at June 06, 2025 09:54 AM (/iMjX)

64 Very nicely done. Two thumbs up.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 09:54 AM (FmapG)

65 She reminds me of my grandmother. She would tell me that she and her sisters and cousins would spend evenings after dinner snapping peas from their gardens. That would have been late 30s and early 40s.

Posted by: mishdog at June 06, 2025 09:55 AM (qSkmO)

66 It would appear that she's had enough of someone's shit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2025 09:55 AM (Q4IgG)

67 "It was a much different time. People didn't go shopping in pajamas back then.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2025 09:49 AM (QnmlO)"

People also owned real clothes back then, not mass produced crap from Honduras, China, and Haiti. They fit correctly and were made of good quality material, and lasted. They also cost 10x as much, so you bought something nice and you wore that shit.

Not that I'm fundamentally opposed to imports, but at least make something half decent like US materials with labor in ... ehh... Vietnam maybe. The Vietnamese are competent and hard-working in a way the Chinese will never be. Which is one of, but not the only, reason they kick the everloving shit out of the PRC every time they've fought.

*you'd be surprised what is made in Vietnam when the Berry Amendment (US requirement for mil issue gear) isn't a factor.

Posted by: heya at June 06, 2025 09:56 AM (y7nXo)

68 he chose violet/purple for the seat cushion to add a complementary color to the yellow to help it pop more.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 09:56 AM (VofaG)

69 Eating goober peas.

Posted by: Appalachian musicians at June 06, 2025 09:57 AM (lIgBp)

70 Vietnam is having rolling blackouts. Companies are fleeing.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 09:57 AM (f2Dcn)

71 he chose violet/purple for the seat cushion to add a complementary color to the yellow to help it pop more.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025

***
There's even some green, so, Mardi Gras colors

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:57 AM (omVj0)

72 Her bean-snapping skills are first-rate, but what about her sammich-making skills?

Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 09:58 AM (77rzZ)

73 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 09:58 AM (Zz0t1)

74 Service Manface Wife.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 09:58 AM (Zz0t1)

75 She has a look on her face like "you could help, you know."

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 09:58 AM (ExV1e)

76 Morn' all.. I like this painting very much.....

Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2025 09:59 AM (VE6XX)

77 The bean crop was light that year.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 09:59 AM (Zz0t1)

78 Vietnam is having rolling blackouts. Companies are fleeing.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 09:57 AM (f2Dcn)

---------------

Is there nothing Trump's Tariffs can't do?

/

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 06, 2025 09:59 AM (FISzD)

79 *When the mugger lisped, "Your money... or your wife!"*

Sounds vaguely familiar...

Posted by: Henney Youngman at June 06, 2025 09:59 AM (lIgBp)

80 100 comment rule

the proprieties, if you please

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 09:59 AM (AOsQT)

81 I like the light on her yellow skirt and she has a sweet but worried face, which I'm not surprised about since she was the wife of a serviceman . Very nice painting! Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2025 10:00 AM (EJtBU)

82 Well, that's just sweet.

Posted by: red speck at June 06, 2025 10:00 AM (0Id0S)

83
"So you can do a 30 mile hike with a full pack but you can't take out the garbage?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2025 10:00 AM (QnmlO)

84 I bet she can make a hella good sammich too.

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 06, 2025 10:00 AM (0W39z)

85 Her bean-snapping skills are first-rate, but what about her sammich-making skills?
Posted by: Bulg

She looks like she knows her way around a dagwood.

Posted by: She Hobbit at June 06, 2025 10:00 AM (ftFVW)

86 It would've been better were she topless.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)

87 Yet still doesn't seem pleased with the serviceman.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at June 06, 2025

***
Probably she's displeased with the war. He's off in the Pacific or maybe the European theater of war, and that was for the duration, not a little over a year as in Vietnam.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 10:01 AM (omVj0)

88 "70 Vietnam is having rolling blackouts. Companies are fleeing.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 09:57 AM (f2Dcn)"

Who isn't, at this point?

They'll go back.

Posted by: heya at June 06, 2025 10:01 AM (y7nXo)

89 Leslie Caron
Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025

***
Some, but Audrey Hepburn seems closer.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 09:53 AM (omVj0)

------------------

My initial impression was a Janine Turner (of Northern Exposure fame) vibe.

Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 06, 2025 10:01 AM (FISzD)

90 I changed my mind

I would hang this in the scullery of my country estate

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:01 AM (AOsQT)

91 Kale yeah!

Posted by: banana Dream at June 06, 2025 10:02 AM (cduTK)

92 Igor: "How is new wife workingk out?"

Ivan: "Terrible! I ask for sammich, she makes me salad."

Posted by: red speck at June 06, 2025 10:02 AM (0Id0S)

93 But can she brew a good cup of coffee?

Posted by: Priorities, people! at June 06, 2025 10:02 AM (lIgBp)

94 My initial impression was a Janine Turner (of Northern Exposure fame) vibe.
Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 06, 2025 10:01 AM (FISzD)

That's where I was headed, but couldn't remember her name. Was going to look up the cast for Cliffhanger.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:02 AM (Zz0t1)

95 "86 It would've been better were she topless.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)"

Then we'd have yellow muppet cans. You prepared for that?

Posted by: heya at June 06, 2025 10:02 AM (y7nXo)

96 She looks like Mia Sara.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 06, 2025 10:02 AM (yADLv)

97 Leslie Caron
Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025

***
Some, but Audrey Hepburn seems closer.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025

------------------
My initial impression was a Janine Turner (of Northern Exposure fame) vibe.
Posted by: ShainS -- Hunter Biden Wrote And AutoPen-Signed His Own Pardon at June 06, 2025

***
The hairstyle, yes, and the overall shape of her face. Leslie, Audrey, and Janine were (subjectively) prettier.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 10:03 AM (omVj0)

98 Jodie.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 10:03 AM (f2Dcn)

99 She looks like Mia Sara.
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living

THAT'S IT!!!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 10:03 AM (cYBz/)

100 (Read this with a sudden accent, y'all)

Ah Am, Ah Said - a limerick

Sometimes Ah just write limericks for the yuks
Ah sure as heck don't do it for the bucks
But when Ah'm fixing peas for dinner
Ah've come up with a sure winner:
Ah smiles...Ah takes a seat... and Ah shucks!

Posted by: muldoon at June 06, 2025 10:03 AM (/iMjX)

101 Now that I think of it, I have Gramma's wooden bowl which is painted a yellow very similar to this woman's dress.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 10:04 AM (cYBz/)

102 (Read this with a sudden accent, y'all)

Like democrats on the campaign trail? The sudden accent?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:04 AM (Zz0t1)

103 Looks like a boy to me. Women should have long hair always. Even as senior citizens in my opinion. I think it makes women look younger.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:04 AM (VofaG)

104 She looks like Mia Sara.
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living

What did Ferris do now?

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 06, 2025 10:04 AM (eb5mD)

105 Shuckin'?
Why that rhymes with...

Posted by: Just a thought at June 06, 2025 10:05 AM (lIgBp)

106 She looks like Mia Sara.
--------
Kay??

Posted by: zombie yogi berra at June 06, 2025 10:05 AM (2yoRf)

107 She looks like Mia Sara.
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 06, 2025

***
She does at that.

Mia, I think, was the first person to play Harley Quinn in live-action, on the Birds of Prey TV series.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at June 06, 2025 10:05 AM (omVj0)

108 What did Ferris do now?
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell

Took the day off apparently.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 10:05 AM (cYBz/)

109 how are you seeing a seat cushion?

Posted by: Otto Pen at June 06, 2025 10:06 AM (sJHOI)

110 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Interesting art today. Mrs D, a twenty year wife of this serviceman, would approve.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:06 AM (W/lyH)

111 You should see her in her goth queen outfit.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 06, 2025 10:06 AM (yADLv)

112 Anyone? Anyone?

Posted by: Obligatory at June 06, 2025 10:07 AM (lIgBp)

113 is you is or is you ain't

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:07 AM (AOsQT)

114 oh what a nice portrait, skillfully done

thoughtful and sensitive, really captures the subject's essence

Posted by: kallisto at June 06, 2025 10:07 AM (dCxaZ)

115 I don't see any news about blackouts in Vietnam or companies fleeing. I just see news about rice shipments to Japan and other countries helping Vietnam develop different markets.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:07 AM (VofaG)

116 Nice looking portrait. I wonder if she looked at it and said "Why didn't you paint me doing something other than working in the kitchen?"

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 06, 2025 10:07 AM (WPL6O)

117 109 how are you seeing a seat cushion?

With my eyes, Bert. With my eyes.

Posted by: Ernie at June 06, 2025 10:08 AM (lIgBp)

118 101 Now that I think of it, I have Gramma's wooden bowl which is painted a yellow very similar to this woman's dress.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 10:04 AM (cYBz/)

Is it the yellow paint that had uranium in it?

Posted by: Kris at June 06, 2025 10:08 AM (C8YRI)

119 I collect wooden bowls like that in the painting. Most of mine have fruits painted around the border though.

I think they're from the 1930s -1940s

Posted by: kallisto at June 06, 2025 10:08 AM (dCxaZ)

120 Needs more Prussian Blue.

Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 10:09 AM (f2Dcn)

121 That's one big, beautiful bowl.

Posted by: And it's wooden at June 06, 2025 10:10 AM (lIgBp)

122 103 Looks like a boy to me. Women should have long hair always. Even as senior citizens in my opinion. I think it makes women look younger.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:04 AM (VofaG)

Look at the year of the painting - 1942. Short hair was very much the style in the war years, for both social and economic reasons.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (uWKK8)

123 Really hoping today is just a boring day.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (2UnvF)

124 Is it the yellow paint that had uranium in it?
Posted by: Kris

Probably - but, her and Grampa lived until they were both in their 90's so, there you are. They also lived in a stone house with a dirt floor basement in a mountain range that has some of the highest concentrations of radon in the US.

They seemed immune to every carcinogen known to man.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (cYBz/)

125 Looked up Mia Sara. She's aged very, very well. And naturally, too.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (eb5mD)

126 Really hoping today is just a boring day.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (2UnvF)

You asked for it........

https://youtu.be/iMaJyUQfwv4

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:12 AM (Zz0t1)

127 Blue Apron. The early years.

Posted by: Where's her phone? at June 06, 2025 10:13 AM (lIgBp)

128 really captures the subject's essence

So does the seat cushion. Hey oh!

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 06, 2025 10:13 AM (0W39z)

129 125 Fruma Sarah, on the other hand…

Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 10:13 AM (77rzZ)

130 I miss anything interesting yesterday?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:15 AM (GBKbO)

131 Probably - but, her and Grampa lived until they were both in their 90's so, there you are. They also lived in a stone house with a dirt floor basement in a mountain range that has some of the highest concentrations of radon in the US.

They seemed immune to every carcinogen known to man.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (cYBz/)

It's wild what they used to put uranium in. A coworker has a collection of uranium glass he keep in a box in his office. It has this neat florescent green color. Apparently, the radiation is low enough to be block by cardboard. I didn't know this.

Posted by: Kris at June 06, 2025 10:15 AM (C8YRI)

132 Look at the year of the painting - 1942. Short hair was very much the style in the war years, for both social and economic reasons.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (uWKK

I can't recall any WW2 pinups having short hair.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:15 AM (VofaG)

133 She looks like Mia Sara.
Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 06, 2025

Cara Mia!
-zombie Gomez Addams

Posted by: haffhowershower at June 06, 2025 10:15 AM (0W39z)

134 Stanley Cup series resumes tonight

here's what I don't get about basketball: Game One of the finals last night

the winning team gave up 110 points
they won by a single point

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:15 AM (AOsQT)

135 I guess one that came close was Greta Garbo.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:16 AM (VofaG)

136 They seemed immune to every carcinogen known to man.
Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2025 10:11 AM (cYBz/)

There is a strong theory that carcinogens cause their damage by corrupting the DNA and RNA chains inside individual cells, and that people who have genetically robust cellular repair mechanisms are mostly immune to them. It would explain why some people can smoke until they are 90 with no ill effects.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:17 AM (uWKK8)

137 the winning team gave up 110 points
they won by a single point
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A real pitchers' duel!

Posted by: zombie yogi berra at June 06, 2025 10:18 AM (2yoRf)

138

Victory Cabbage!

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 06, 2025 10:18 AM (DokPW)

139 136 There is a strong theory that carcinogens cause their damage by corrupting the DNA and RNA chains inside individual cells, and that people who have genetically robust cellular repair mechanisms are mostly immune to them. It would explain why some people can smoke until they are 90 with no ill effects.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:17 AM (uWKK

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*harumphs confidently*
-Winston Churchill

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:18 AM (GBKbO)

140 It would explain why some people can smoke until they are 90 with no ill effects.
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Yep.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:19 AM (FmapG)

141 *harumphs confidently*
-Winston Churchill
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:18 AM (GBKbO)

The whiskey killed all the bad stuff too.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:19 AM (VofaG)

142 141 *harumphs confidently*
-Winston Churchill
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:18 AM (GBKbO)

The whiskey killed all the bad stuff too.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:19 AM (VofaG)

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I thought he was more of a champagne guy. A full bottle with breakfast every morning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:19 AM (GBKbO)

143 how do you claim victory when you let the opponent score 55 times?

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:20 AM (AOsQT)

144 Vietnam is having rolling blackouts. Companies are fleeing.
Posted by: Boss Moss at June 06, 2025 09:57 AM (f2Dcn)

Vietnam is still a poor, backwater of a country whose main selling point is cheaper labor than Red China and allowing prosperous westerners to vacation amid their country's poverty. Still less STD's than Cuba.

Posted by: Canadian Sex Tourist at June 06, 2025 10:20 AM (87CKS)

145 OK the more I look at the girl in the painting, the more I want to gently bite her lower lip

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:21 AM (AOsQT)

146 143 how do you claim victory when you let the opponent score 55 times?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:20 AM (AOsQT)

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By scoring 56 times.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:21 AM (GBKbO)

147 I thought he was more of a champagne guy. A full bottle with breakfast every morning.
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Brits. Queen Elizabeth drinking went on all day. Champagne for breakfast and then gin. Amazing chick.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:21 AM (FmapG)

148 I thought he was more of a champagne guy. A full bottle with breakfast every morning.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:19 AM (GBKbO)

Both.

Pol Roger in the morning and Johnny Walker the rest of the day.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:22 AM (VofaG)

149 147 I thought he was more of a champagne guy. A full bottle with breakfast every morning.
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Brits. Queen Elizabeth drinking went on all day. Champagne for breakfast and then gin. Amazing chick.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:21 AM (FmapG)

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Early Americans, too.

https://is.gd/RLSTXC

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:23 AM (GBKbO)

150 *Brits. Queen Elizabeth drinking went on all day. Champagne for breakfast and then gin. Amazing chick.*

Bring it on.

Posted by: Old Lady Emhoff at June 06, 2025 10:23 AM (lIgBp)

151 Johnnie = Johnny

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:23 AM (VofaG)

152 130 I miss anything interesting yesterday?

you missed me not being here

Posted by: kallisto at June 06, 2025 10:23 AM (dCxaZ)

153 I can't recall any WW2 pinups having short hair.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:15 AM (VofaG)

That look was for women who were considered fun, but frivolous. It was not for anyone who wanted to be taken seriously.
Every photo of my female family members from that time looks about like this painting. It was a serious time, and they had a serious attitude about it. They were also still making dresses for themselves out of the patterned flour sacks that became common during the depression.

https://tinyurl.com/4zxw9ksw

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:24 AM (uWKK8)

154 Early Americans, too.

https://is.gd/RLSTXC
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Every farm had a still. Hard labor requires lots of calories and a pain reliever.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:24 AM (FmapG)

155 Early Americans, too.

https://is.gd/RLSTXC
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:23 AM (GBKbO)

Mike Rowe did the story of Paul Revere's ride where he traveled from tavern to tavern alerting on the impending attack. He drank at each one he stopped at. By the end of the ride, he was hammered.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:25 AM (Zz0t1)

156 Hard labor requires lots of calories and a pain reliever.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:24 AM (FmapG)

I live these words to this day.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:25 AM (Zz0t1)

157 The 1940s was the best decade for women’s hair, at least in the movies.

Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

158 If you had Liz's family you might drink your day through too

Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2025 10:26 AM (+qU29)

159 >By scoring 56 times.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Dee-FENSE!

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:26 AM (AOsQT)

160 By the end of the ride, he was hammered.
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Well, he was a silver smith.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:26 AM (FmapG)

161 146 143 how do you claim victory when you let the opponent score 55 times?
Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:20 AM (AOsQT)

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By scoring 56 times.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:21 AM (GBKbO)
***

There is a certain logic to this.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:26 AM (W/lyH)

162 Every farm had a still. Hard labor requires lots of calories and a pain reliever.

Posted by: pudinhead

Also, often safer than the water.

Posted by: Brother Tim (102mm/W59), Keeper of the Tim Continuum at June 06, 2025 10:26 AM (OUMaO)

163 "Every photo of my female family members from that time looks about like this painting."

I'll be in the garage if you need me.

Posted by: RIDGID PinUp Calendar at June 06, 2025 10:27 AM (lIgBp)

164
I'll be in the garage if you need me.
Posted by: RIDGID PinUp Calendar at June 06, 2025 10:27 AM (lIgBp)

TITTAYS!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at June 06, 2025 10:28 AM (Zz0t1)

165 Mike Rowe did the story of Paul Revere's ride where he traveled from tavern to tavern alerting on the impending attack. He drank at each one he stopped at. By the end of the ride, he was hammered.
Posted by: Sponge

I just heard PR's ride in Foster Brooks's voice.

"The Bri-bri-bri England is co-co-co here!"

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2025 10:28 AM (BuA5c)

166 Seriously, an NBA game should be 3 minutes long

Posted by: Don Black. Message: John has a long mustache. at June 06, 2025 10:28 AM (AOsQT)

167 I miss anything interesting yesterday?
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Elongate!

Posted by: zombie yogi berra at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (2yoRf)

168 "You know what you've done."

Posted by: We've seen that look before at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (ZU+i5)

169 Circa 1942. Very nice, very appropriate.

American Art dot si dot edu

In Serviceman’s Wife, Ivan Olinsky painted a woman looking up expectantly, perhaps to greet her husband, who has just opened the door. Her skirt draws out the yellow of the pears in the background and her full lips match the apple’s rosy skin. The grays and blues of her shirt echo those of the white cloth on which the fruits rest. She is integrated into her environment as if she is simply one part of a still life. Olinsky specialized in idealized images of women, and his portraits were successful on the market, selling for up to $2,000 each in the 1920s. His work had grown even more popular by the 1940s, when he worked for the commercial firm Portraits, Inc. Critics noted that each of his women looked like “a hardy perennial despite her delicate air.” (Cummings, Olinsky, Faces of Change: The Art of Ivan G. Olinsky, 1878-1962, 1995)

I would consider hanging today's selection.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (NFX2v)

170 Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:24 AM (uWKK

Short hair on women means they are serious and long hair means they are frivolous? I think the 20's would contradict that.

That said my post was simply to state my preference whether it was in the 20's or today.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (VofaG)

171 Seriously, an NBA game should be 3 minutes long
Posted by: Don Black

One shot - 3 point line. In the event of a tie, half court.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (BuA5c)

172
They used to call short haircuts on girls a "bob."

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (Q9SSe)

173 157 The 1940s was the best decade for women’s hair, at least in the movies.
Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 10:26 AM (77rzZ)

And remember that after VJ day in 1945, there was an explosion of Joy and everyone began to reject all the privations they had been willing to accept during the War years. Economists were worried about a depression coming back when all the soldiers returned, but by the 50's it turned into the greatest economic growth America had ever seen.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:30 AM (uWKK8)

174
"Bernice Bobs Her Hair"
-- a short story by F Scott Fitzgerald

I recommend.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 06, 2025 10:30 AM (Q9SSe)

175 This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: Hardy perennials with delicate hair at June 06, 2025 10:31 AM (lIgBp)

176 Economists were worried about a depression coming back when all the soldiers returned, but by the 50's it turned into the greatest economic growth America had ever seen.
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Killing all your competitors might do that?

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:32 AM (FmapG)

177 That said my post was simply to state my preference whether it was in the 20's or today.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (VofaG)

I understand. The topic just reminded me of my grandparents and their siblings, who I was lucky enough to know when I was young, and who told me tales of what living through the war years was like for ordinary people who stayed here. They would be considered working poor, but they always had food and a house.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:32 AM (uWKK8)

178 Would you rather a BBB under Trump?
Or a BBB v.2.0 under Kamala?

So why the whining?

Hell, the part about mandating voter ID for all fed elections is enough to pass it no matter what.

Spending, cuts, and all that are not the real game:
The real game is cutting the ability of the Dems to lie, cheat and steal elections.

Apropos for today: We don't need to take all of Germany up to Berlin now, we need a beachhead first.

And then clear out the federal judges manning the machine gun pillboxes atop the cliffs.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 06, 2025 10:33 AM (KhUhr)

179 Here's another article about how/why the BBB is the way that it is.

https://tinyurl.com/29y2avx6+

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 10:33 AM (ExV1e)

180 That's a beautiful salad bowl she's got. It'll run you about $500 at Andrew Pearce in Vermont.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 06, 2025 10:34 AM (Yk3/2)

181 Fun painting. I took a look and thought, "Hey! I know her!"

Very relatable, I guess.

Posted by: Emmie at June 06, 2025 10:35 AM (rF2iL)

182 Economists were worried about a depression coming back when all the soldiers returned, but by the 50's it turned into the greatest economic growth America had ever seen.
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Killing all your competitors might do that?
Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:32 AM (FmapG)

Europe seems to be doing a pretty good job of killing themselves industrially, economically, and culturally with their fashionable importing of Antique 13th Century Citizens and Power Dependent on the Wills of the Wind and Sun Gods.

If only China would jump into that game, and we'd stop trying to jump in.

Then I predict a New American Century!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 06, 2025 10:36 AM (iJfKG)

183 I can't recall any WW2 pinups having short hair.

Veronica Lake went with a much shorter hair style than her iconic over-the-eye look. Her career never recovered after the war.

Veronica Lake is best known for her iconic "peek-a-boo" hairstyle, which she famously wore with one strand of hair cascading over her eye. However, during World War II, she altered her hairstyle to encourage safer and more practical options for women working in factories. This shift led to her adopting the "victory roll," a hairstyle that was more secure and less likely to get caught in machinery. While she ultimately cut her hair shorter, it's her signature long, iconic hairstyle that remains most associated with her

Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2025 10:36 AM (s8j++)

184 Refreshing. Nice to see she’s not fabricating suicide vests.

Posted by: Rev. Wishbone at June 06, 2025 10:37 AM (RnwYP)

185 I had a friend that grew up in the Tri-Cities area (near Hanford). He had a pencil from a local car place. It had a plastic piece under the eraser that contained depleted uranium. At least, that was the claim.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at June 06, 2025 10:38 AM (AcTAo)

186 Elongate!
Posted by: zombie yogi berra at June 06, 2025 10:29 AM (2yoRf)

If my spam folder is any indication, there are pills for that.

Posted by: Emmie at June 06, 2025 10:39 AM (rF2iL)

187 US Navy shipboard markers, particularly those used from the early 1900s through the mid-20th century, were indeed made with radium. These were known as "deck markers" and were used on ships to provide low-level illumination for operations during nighttime or low-light conditions.

National Emergency Services Museum (UK)
Radium: the glowing hands of time

EPA, Radioactivity in Antiques

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 06, 2025 10:39 AM (NFX2v)

188 Sarah, plain and tall.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:43 AM (0HaGk)

189 Economists were worried about a depression coming back when all the soldiers returned, but by the 50's it turned into the greatest economic growth America had ever seen.
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Killing all your competitors might do that?
Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:32 AM (FmapG)
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The British managed to shoot themselves in the foot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 06, 2025 10:43 AM (6YdsJ)

190 >If my spam folder is any indication, there are pills for that.*

Call me.

Posted by: The mature woman in the unusual white sweater at June 06, 2025 10:44 AM (lIgBp)

191 I took a look at some of Olinsky's other paintings; He really was very talented. Most of the women he painted (I didn't see any men, but I didn't look at all of them) look serious.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2025 10:44 AM (EJtBU)

192 She needs to use those veggies and fruits before they go bad.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:44 AM (0HaGk)

193 Since the serviceman's away, Not shown stage left, is Jody.

Posted by: Fish at June 06, 2025 10:46 AM (SQp9n)

194 192 She needs to use those veggies and fruits before they go bad.
Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:44 AM

Is that what you kids are calling it nowadays?

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at June 06, 2025 10:46 AM (lIgBp)

195 "I took a look at some of Olinsky's other paintings; He really was very talented. Most of the women he painted (I didn't see any men, but I didn't look at all of them) look serious.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "

Women are serious about money and not much else, these days.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:47 AM (0HaGk)

196 I'm just seeing spots is all.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:48 AM (0HaGk)

197 The BBB near Tacoma was an interesting place. One guy running it, and about 15 women working there. All hawt. I worked briefly for a firm in the same building. We never figured it out.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:48 AM (W/lyH)

198 Very, very nice portrait, but it's missing a certain something ...

Posted by: Quentin T. and Rex R. at June 06, 2025 10:48 AM (0sNs1)

199 Women are serious about money and not much else, these days.
Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:47 AM (0HaGk)

That's certainly true of the ones who garner the most attention. The question is whether the rest follow along.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 10:49 AM (ExV1e)

200 The BBB near Tacoma was an interesting place. One guy running it, and about 15 women working there. All hawt. I worked briefly for a firm in the same building. We never figured it out.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:48 AM (W/lyH)

What's a BBB?

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:50 AM (VofaG)

201 Say what you want about KJP. She was doing her job.

Sure, everybody fantasizes about the rogue spokesman who plays Howard Beale and just blows up their career to tell you "what's really going on".

But that's not going to happen. So in lying administrations, you're going to get people who lied the entire time in the job.

She did her job.

It's still the press that didn't do theirs.

She forbade questions.
She insisted that Biden had already answered a question or she had, regardless of whether that had been a good answer.
She was obnoxious.

And a super-majority of the press took it.

Just imagine how understanding that the Dems would NOT be if Doocy refused to give the mic back? "No, I'm going to ask this question. I'm going to stand here and pontificate and badger you while I have the mic, even if I get into a minor scuffle with somebody trying to take it back".

Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 10:50 AM (krQz2)

202 "Better Business Bureau"?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 06, 2025 10:50 AM (WPL6O)

203 Big
Boobs
Barroom

Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (W2Pud)

204 Since the serviceman's away, Not shown stage left, is Jody.
Posted by: Fish at June 06, 2025 10:46 AM (SQp9n)

These days it could be Jodie.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (W/lyH)

205 "That's certainly true of the ones who garner the most attention. The question is whether the rest follow along.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic"

There's the thing.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (0HaGk)

206 What's a BBB?
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:50 AM

Something that will *really* put your eye out.

Posted by: Ralphie's Teacher at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (0sNs1)

207 201 But that's not going to happen. So in lying administrations, you're going to get people who lied the entire time in the job.

She did her job.

It's still the press that didn't do theirs.

She forbade questions.
She insisted that Biden had already answered a question or she had, regardless of whether that had been a good answer.
She was obnoxious.

And a super-majority of the press took it.

Just imagine how understanding that the Dems would NOT be if Doocy refused to give the mic back? "No, I'm going to ask this question. I'm going to stand here and pontificate and badger you while I have the mic, even if I get into a minor scuffle with somebody trying to take it back".
Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 10:50 AM (krQz2)

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She didn't lie effectively, though. She lied like she should, but she did it poorly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)

208 Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:47 AM (0HaGk)

I think it depends on the women. Women on here while having a sense of humor seem pretty serious and energized.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (EJtBU)

209 Women are serious about money and not much else, these days.
Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:47 AM (0HaGk)

I was going to try and defend against that statement then I thought of Only Fans, Influencers and Tik Tok.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (VofaG)

210 What’s a BBB?

$20, same as in Yakima.

Posted by: Bulg at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (77rzZ)

211 "Better Business Bureau"?
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 06, 2025 10:50 AM (WPL6O)

That's what I was thinking in my comment. Now that I look back, you guys were talking Big Beautiful Bill.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (W/lyH)

212 Oh my gosh! The girl in the painting looks like someone I went to high school with. She married one of her college professors. It was scandalous.

Posted by: Piper at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (aT5K/)

213 Since the serviceman's away, Not shown stage left, is Jody.
Posted by: Fish at June 06, 2025 10:46 AM (SQp9n)
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I remember Iraqi propaganda during the First Gulf War, when they tried to demoralize our soldiers that their girls were sleeping with Bart Simpson.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (6YdsJ)

214 What's a BBB?
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:50 AM
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Build Back Barrio

Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 10:53 AM (krQz2)

215 I'll never get the KJP white knighting here.

She's awful and not at all attractive.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:53 AM (0HaGk)

216 211 That's what I was thinking in my comment. Now that I look back, you guys were talking Big Beautiful Bill.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (W/lyH)

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The House would have passed it unanimously had Johnson just called it, "The Bill to Save Puppies and Pay for Abortions for Everyone".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

217 Oh my gosh! The girl in the painting looks like someone I went to high school with. She married one of her college professors. It was scandalous.
Posted by: Piper at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (aT5K/)
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Ariel Durant?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 06, 2025 10:54 AM (6YdsJ)

218 Big Beautiful Bill

Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 06, 2025 10:54 AM (23eD8)

219 Oh, yeah. The 1950's and 1960's post-WWII wildcat strikes were joyous times.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 06, 2025 10:54 AM (NFX2v)

220 "I think it depends on the women. Women on here while having a sense of humor seem pretty serious and energized.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke "

Fen...I'm not talking about women here.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:54 AM (0HaGk)

221 211 That's what I was thinking in my comment. Now that I look back, you guys were talking Big Beautiful Bill.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2025 10:52 AM (W/lyH)

Honestly I didn't know The BBB had offices.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:54 AM (VofaG)

222 Does this mean it was all a show?

https://tinyurl.com/3658294c+

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 10:55 AM (ExV1e)

223
She didn't lie effectively, though. She lied like she should, but she did it poorly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)

The core problem wasn't KJP, it was that "the press" has now become nothing but ruling class stenographers and groupies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:55 AM (uWKK8)

224 I'll never get the KJP white knighting here.

She's awful and not at all attractive.
Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:53 AM (0HaGk)
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Was that her job?

And the press let her get away with being awful, because they were on the same team.

It's *still* the press.

Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 10:55 AM (krQz2)

225 223
She didn't lie effectively, though. She lied like she should, but she did it poorly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)

The core problem wasn't KJP, it was that "the press" has now become nothing but ruling class stenographers and groupies.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:55 AM (uWKK

======

That is also another problem.

Also, the press has always been thus. It's a fiction to think otherwise.

For 100 years there was just less disagreement among those who were allowed access the mass media equipment.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:56 AM (GBKbO)

226 CBD, or available COB with hammer power, nasty last comment on the ONT, #481, posted by (81l8C).

Aaaaand, good morning, AOS.

Posted by: mindful webworker - back again at June 06, 2025 10:56 AM (MUT5K)

227 I'll never get the KJP white knighting here.

You answered your own question. Some dudes are just hard-wired to be the white knight. And you'll always have the members of the International Sisterhood of the Vag, Local 001.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 06, 2025 10:56 AM (2AUcf)

228 One time my sister Taylor reported the Better Business Bureau to itself.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at June 06, 2025 10:56 AM (oUlN5)

229 222 Does this mean it was all a show?

https://tinyurl.com/3658294c+
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 10:55 AM (ExV1e)

This is just another reminder that you shouldn't let your emotions rule you and get you to act out in public, because the crawfishing in the cold light of the next day always comes after.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (uWKK8)

230 Has there ever been a competent Democrat Press Secretary?

They were all terrible liars.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (VofaG)

231 🤷‍♀️ Don't like the games from the Left or from the Right.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (NFX2v)

232 226 CBD, or available COB with hammer power, nasty last comment on the ONT, #481, posted by (81l8C).

Aaaaand, good morning, AOS.
Posted by: mindful webworker - back again at June 06, 2025 10:56 AM (MUT5K)

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Zapped and banned.

Thanks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (GBKbO)

233 Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 10:54 AM (0HaGk)

O.K. Sometimes it's a little difficult to tell-not with you-but with the "women are all selfish, shallow, stupid " etc, etc" them that we get on here.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (EJtBU)

234 Does this mean it was all a show?

https://tinyurl.com/3658294c+

No, but it does mean that sleeping on it usually causes people to rethink what they've done.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (s8j++)

235 Has there ever been a competent Democrat Press Secretary?

They were all terrible liars.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (VofaG)
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The Sarah Sanders BLR video is still hilarious.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (6YdsJ)

236 She didn't lie effectively, though. She lied like she should, but she did it poorly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)
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I give her zero props on ability.

But it's the same press whom Hillary (basically) asked "Aren't you supposed to stay behind the cordon?"

It's mostly that press' fault that KJP had as long at the podium as she had.

Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (krQz2)

237 The British managed to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Oddly, after WWI the Brits knew two things - 1) the Empire was a money loser and 2) they needed desperately to modernize their Army and Navy. Because of 1 they could not do 2.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (FmapG)

238 Would hang/bang

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (QGaXH)

239 229 222 Does this mean it was all a show?

https://tinyurl.com/3658294c+
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 10:55 AM (ExV1e)

This is just another reminder that you shouldn't let your emotions rule you and get you to act out in public, because the crawfishing in the cold light of the next day always comes after.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (uWKK

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Musk got mad (don't care why). He's autistic. He let it fly in public because his autism makes it harder to build filters in his head.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (GBKbO)

240 Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 06, 2025 10:56 AM (2AUcf)

Of course, Scogg. Of course.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (EJtBU)

241 She didn't lie effectively, though. She lied like she should, but she did it poorly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:51 AM (GBKbO)

Democrats don't have to lie well to lie effectively. The fact that WE knew she was lying is irrelevant.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (ExV1e)

242 I'll never get the KJP white knighting here.

You answered your own question. Some dudes are just hard-wired to be the white knight. And you'll always have the members of the International Sisterhood of the Vag, Local 001.
Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 06, 2025 10:56 AM (2AUcf)

Who is white knighting ?

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:59 AM (VofaG)

243 236 I give her zero props on ability.

But it's the same press whom Hillary (basically) asked "Aren't you supposed to stay behind the cordon?"

It's mostly that press' fault that KJP had as long at the podium as she had.
Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (krQz2)

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Walter Cronkite would have loved her, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:59 AM (GBKbO)

244 And some KJP commentary from DU:

"Karine Jean-Pierre leaving the Democratic Party because of how they treated Biden

I have to say I agree with Karine Jean-Pierre. Regardless of whether people think Biden should have run or not run, the way the Democratic leaders of the party publicly shot him in the back was disgusting. Who wants to vote for a party that says they'll "fight for you" when they won't even fight for their own President?

This also put VP Harris behind the 8-ball and made things so much tougher for her. When leaders like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Adam Schiff say your President isn't competent and should stand down, where does that put Kamala Harris? She was Biden's VP! Now she has to spend time defending herself for working for a man whom her own party is saying wasn't competent. The Dem leaders tarnished the entire Administration by their public crucifixion of Joe. Such a catastrophically stupid political move, and shameful treatment of their own President, who worked so hard for all Americans."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 06, 2025 10:59 AM (0sNs1)

245 The British managed to shoot themselves in the foot.
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Oddly, after WWI the Brits knew two things - 1) the Empire was a money loser and 2) they needed desperately to modernize their Army and Navy. Because of 1 they could not do 2.
Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 10:58 AM (FmapG)
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I was talking more about the whole socialism/nationalization thing.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 06, 2025 10:59 AM (6YdsJ)

246 No, but it does mean that sleeping on it usually causes people to rethink what they've done.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (s8j++)
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Too much ketamine--or whatever substance Elon took that day, probably.

Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 11:00 AM (krQz2)

247 244 And some KJP commentary from DU:

"Karine Jean-Pierre leaving the Democratic Party because of how they treated Biden

I have to say I agree with Karine Jean-Pierre. Regardless of whether people think Biden should have run or not run, the way the Democratic leaders of the party publicly shot him in the back was disgusting. Who wants to vote for a party that says they'll "fight for you" when they won't even fight for their own President?

This also put VP Harris behind the 8-ball and made things so much tougher for her. When leaders like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Adam Schiff say your President isn't competent and should stand down, where does that put Kamala Harris? She was Biden's VP! Now she has to spend time defending herself for working for a man whom her own party is saying wasn't competent. The Dem leaders tarnished the entire Administration by their public crucifixion of Joe. Such a catastrophically stupid political move, and shameful treatment of their own President, who worked so hard for all Americans."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 06, 2025 10:59 AM (0sNs1)

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So...they're going to exclusively vote third party now, right?

Right?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 11:00 AM (GBKbO)

248 #226 damn, already banhammered
Now I'll never know.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 06, 2025 11:00 AM (n4GiU)

249 226 CBD, or available COB with hammer power, nasty last comment on the ONT, #481, posted by (81l8C).

They were on it. No 481 there.

Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 06, 2025 11:00 AM (NFX2v)

250 248 #226 damn, already banhammered
Now I'll never know.
Posted by: From about That Time at June 06, 2025 11:00 AM (n4GiU)

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"If you think Muslims are bad, what about the Joooos?!"

I'm surprised the words were spelled correctly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

251 Who is white knighting ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 10:59 AM

And are they dressed in satin?

Posted by: Moody Blues at June 06, 2025 11:01 AM (0sNs1)

252 "O.K. Sometimes it's a little difficult to tell-not with you-but with the "women are all selfish, shallow, stupid " etc, etc" them that we get on here.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

The only woman here I've seen that fits that description is Pickled Tink.

All you bitches are cool with me.

Posted by: eleven at June 06, 2025 11:01 AM (0HaGk)

253 Nood!

Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2025 11:01 AM (BuA5c)

254 According to the Fox News site Trump staffers were going to speak with Musk to deescalate the rhetoric.

IU guess they did.

Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2025 11:02 AM (VofaG)

255 She's awful and not at all attractive.
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Some people find golliwogs attractive.

Posted by: pudinhead at June 06, 2025 11:02 AM (FmapG)

256 I'm surprised the words were spelled correctly.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

Damn, i was at least hoping for some wit wit the trash.

Posted by: From about That Time at June 06, 2025 11:03 AM (n4GiU)

257 234 Does this mean it was all a show?

https://tinyurl.com/3658294c+

No, but it does mean that sleeping on it usually causes people to rethink what they've done.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2025 10:57 AM (s8j++)

I still maintain Trump called Elon's mom and told her to have a talk with him...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at June 06, 2025 11:03 AM (QGaXH)

258 The House would have passed it unanimously had Johnson just called it, "The Bill to Save Puppies and Pay for Abortions for Everyone".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at June 06, 2025 10:53 AM (GBKbO)

And fund the Deep State. Don't forget fund the Deep State.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 06, 2025 11:03 AM (dGCAG)

259 US Navy shipboard markers, particularly those used from the early 1900s through the mid-20th century, were indeed made with radium. These were known as "deck markers" and were used on ships to provide low-level illumination for operations during nighttime or low-light conditions.

National Emergency Services Museum (UK)
Radium: the glowing hands of time

EPA, Radioactivity in Antiques
Posted by: L - No nic, another fine day at June 06, 2025 10:39 AM (NFX2v)

Then, there were The Radium Girls. I first read about these poor women when I was a kid in the 50's.

https://tinyurl.com/2s4khahx

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at June 06, 2025 11:05 AM (5xuJ/)

260 I give her zero props on ability.

Me neither. Its easy to control a room full of sycophants.

That press room is the perfect expression of the DC / NYC political class. About the only disagreement among them is when to break for lunch.

As some have hit on - when did this reverence for the media happen ? We can all read, back in the day, how the public had no respect for the print-only media. Muckrakers and rags were common expressions.

Did radio or television change it ? I don't know. I do know that most people absolutely take it as the gospel if they see it visually - and that goes for all ages. Now its "Rogan said this" with the kids. If I hear "I heard on Rogan" one more time I'll puke.

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 06, 2025 11:05 AM (2AUcf)

261 I was talking more about the whole socialism/nationalization thing.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 06, 2025 10:59 AM (6YdsJ)
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They defeated the fascist would-be empire, to silently, slowly transform into fascists.

Read a piece that was about how "Stakeholder Capitalism" comes out of this German book, post WWII called "Idealistic Realism" or something. And that paralleled themes in Giovanni Gentile's "Concrete Idealism" which is a philosophy that birth fascism.

Very few people care about Gentile. Because he didn't kill 6 million jews, and his idea of the State was more or less as a means for progress of society.

And really, you can't slag Mussolini who became a student of Gentile after editing the most prestigious Marxist periodical in Italy for a decade or two. Because there was a note of "progress" in the changes that Mussolini made to Italy (although children were to belong to the State).

Before the Nazis broke out, much of Europe and some of America was enthralled with how efficient fascism seemed to be.

You can even argue that as an intellectual of some capacity, Italy had a "Philosopher/King".

Posted by: Axeman at June 06, 2025 11:06 AM (krQz2)

262 Before the Nazis broke out, much of Europe and some of America was enthralled with how efficient fascism seemed to be.

Mussolini was WILDLY popular in the pre-War United States. And honestly, can you find a more Socialist/Communist leaning American president than FDR ?

Posted by: Mike Armstrong at June 06, 2025 11:08 AM (2AUcf)

263 "...to Paris, where she died of natural causes."

"The Guillotine?" I protested. "That's not natural causes!"

He regarded me over the tops of his wire-rimmed spectacles. "Human nature."

Posted by: Bombadil at June 06, 2025 11:26 AM (MX0bI)

264 At least this figure has a head. So there's that.

Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at June 06, 2025 11:30 AM (ERYKL)

265 46 With some Winona Ryder

that's the one i couldn't think of. bingo.

Posted by: cmeat at June 06, 2025 11:57 AM (8HmRF)

266 Sorry, wrong thread.

The painting is very attractive.

Posted by: Bombadil at June 06, 2025 01:35 PM (MX0bI)

267 I love the expression of the woman's face. Lovely portrait indeed.

Posted by: ladyhobbit at June 06, 2025 02:03 PM (2H3X+)

268 I like French Cut Green beans

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269 Hurrah, that's what I was looking for, what a material!
existing here at this blog, thanks admin of this
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