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Gun Thread: Easter Bunny Edition!
A Gunthread Easter favorite!
FUNdamentals
Fundamentals of pleasant interactions with the po-lice, that is. OK, so summer is nearly upon us which means summer road travel with firearms. Let's review some fundamentals with our pals the Armed Attorneys. Federal Safe Passage Act
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.So theoretically you're protected as long as you follow three key provisions; the weapon is legal for you to possess in both the beginning and ending jurisdictions, you don't stop along the way, and it's properly secured in your vehicle. Q: Weasel, are you a lawyer?
A: No, no I am not. Please pay no attention to anything I say. Q: Are you sure?
A: Yes. Absolutely. See that giant gray area of quoted text just up above? There is stuff in there that can get you in big trouble, as opposed to saving your ass, if you aren't very careful. What constitutes stopping, for example? A pee break or to fill up with gas? How does one define "readily accessible?" Floating around on the back seat cool? Whose definition matters? Yours? Hopefully you get the idea. I think the sensible thing to do is to know the law in the jurisdictions you will be passing through, and plan accordingly. "Planning accordingly" can easily be interpreted as avoiding altogether. Here is a good website from USCCA with an interactive map of gun laws in the 50 states (and territories, in the event you are driving to Puerto Rico). Another good resource is the CCW app which I have on my phone for easy reference. Next, how to act during a traffic stop.
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Slavyanka is the observant one. Yesterday I went to an Eastern European grocery (what a zoo! - Orthodox peeps really go all out at Easter) and picked up a bunch of meat, cheesesThank you, Marty! For those interested, The San Cristobal cigars start around $20 each, and up (way up).
and other things that will go in the Easter basket to be blessed at midnight mass tomorrow. I'll go with her but she's been 3 times this week already. I busied myself putting together a shelf for my cordless tools, making some char cloth, changing the brake fluid on my ATV, tuning the new carb on the rototiller and making basil pesto and cod for dinner. Now I'm relaxing with a San Cristobal de La Habana a friend brought back from Cuba. A really nice smoke, paired with some 15 year old Dawhinnie. The cigar had an excellent draw, burned clean and was just the perfect thing for a very mild spring night.
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Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at April 20, 2025 07:00 PM (v23vE)
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Bang
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2025 07:00 PM (ypFCm)
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Bang?
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:01 PM (X0fmk)
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Posted by: Eromero at April 20, 2025 07:01 PM (LHPAg)
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Dammmm, Skip!
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:01 PM (X0fmk)
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Posted by: Eromero at April 20, 2025 07:01 PM (LHPAg)
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Posted by: Eromero at April 20, 2025 07:02 PM (LHPAg)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 20, 2025 07:02 PM (A3mDl)
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Posted by: Eromero at April 20, 2025 07:02 PM (LHPAg)
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luft ballons
Posted by: Eromero at April 20, 2025 07:03 PM (LHPAg)
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Good Easter Sunday evening, gub 'ettes and 'rons, and a law-enforcement-level polite greeting to our host Weasel.
Always a good Gub Thread when it's graced by Mas Ayoob. Off to go consume some of Weasel's girthy content!
Always a good Gub Thread when it's graced by Mas Ayoob. Off to go consume some of Weasel's girthy content!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at April 20, 2025 07:03 PM (v23vE)
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At least I squeezed by Eromero . . .
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:04 PM (X0fmk)
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Hello, Weasel!
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:04 PM (AiJK3)
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Yay! Gubs!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2025 07:06 PM (Wnv9h)
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Happy Easter, all!
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at April 20, 2025 07:06 PM (Hdixl)
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There is a indoor range close to where I am working tomorrow, and pass it on way to the Delaware job but haven't yet stopped by. I don't have a problem as go straight to work, vehicle is fine and safe then could go to range afterwards. It's just going that's stopping me.
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2025 07:07 PM (ypFCm)
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Saw this picture, and immediate thought of Anna Puma.
https://tinyurl.com/396cjsef
I know there's another Ette that might get a kick out of it, but I've forgotten her nic.
https://tinyurl.com/396cjsef
I know there's another Ette that might get a kick out of it, but I've forgotten her nic.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 20, 2025 07:07 PM (VNX3d)
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Happy Easter, All!
I do have a Range Report, but will await the stragglers.
I do have a Range Report, but will await the stragglers.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:07 PM (X0fmk)
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Shouldn't the rabbit be angry? Ya know, a cross hare.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 20, 2025 07:09 PM (/y8xj)
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Since Weasel brought it up, has anyone ever noticed that the chocolate used in the hollow animal genre is not right? It tastes funny and the texture is odd (I am assuming it is a consequence of trying to make the final product harder and more easily flow into the mold.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 20, 2025 07:09 PM (bss/y)
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There are some significant non-free states and some that use aggressive police search tactics.
First, never consent to having your vehicle searched, personally, I will not consent either to field sobriety tests as these are subjective searches that physically impaired or old people often have difficulty to do.
Personally, I would never mention using various legal prescription drugs either as police are now aggressively looking for revenue and often will turn that admission that you are using benedryl etc. into impaired driving charges.
Be nice, be pleasant, but refuse any attempt by police to prolong the encounter-take your ticket, etc. and get the heck out of there. Highway patrol have specific training in getting you to admit things on the side of the road to permit them to search the vehicle, impound your car, test you for impaired driving (not just DUI anymore), and if your car is impounded, they can do what is called an inventory search without a warrant.
Kansas State Police just got busted for their attempts to prolong ticket stops just so they can get drug dogs out to search your vehicle. TN had a problem with people getting unjust impaired driving charges.
First, never consent to having your vehicle searched, personally, I will not consent either to field sobriety tests as these are subjective searches that physically impaired or old people often have difficulty to do.
Personally, I would never mention using various legal prescription drugs either as police are now aggressively looking for revenue and often will turn that admission that you are using benedryl etc. into impaired driving charges.
Be nice, be pleasant, but refuse any attempt by police to prolong the encounter-take your ticket, etc. and get the heck out of there. Highway patrol have specific training in getting you to admit things on the side of the road to permit them to search the vehicle, impound your car, test you for impaired driving (not just DUI anymore), and if your car is impounded, they can do what is called an inventory search without a warrant.
Kansas State Police just got busted for their attempts to prolong ticket stops just so they can get drug dogs out to search your vehicle. TN had a problem with people getting unjust impaired driving charges.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:10 PM (ctrM5)
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19 Shouldn't the rabbit be angry? Ya know, a cross hare.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 20, 2025 07:09 PM (/y8xj)
*golfclap*
Gonna be tough to zero.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 20, 2025 07:09 PM (/y8xj)
*golfclap*
Gonna be tough to zero.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 20, 2025 07:10 PM (bss/y)
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22 19 Shouldn't the rabbit be angry? Ya know, a cross hare.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 20, 2025 07:09 PM (/y8xj)
*golfclap*
Gonna be tough to zero.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 20, 2025 07:10 PM (bss/y)
The hare makes more sense as a rear sight, with a front carrot.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 20, 2025 07:09 PM (/y8xj)
*golfclap*
Gonna be tough to zero.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 20, 2025 07:10 PM (bss/y)
The hare makes more sense as a rear sight, with a front carrot.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 20, 2025 07:11 PM (VNX3d)
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Howdy!
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at April 20, 2025 07:11 PM (sAmhv)
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Happy Easter gubthreaders and all the ships at sea.
I know we have another prayer thread but it's Easter. For all the Horde in need of prayer, pray. It works.
Thank you.
I know we have another prayer thread but it's Easter. For all the Horde in need of prayer, pray. It works.
Thank you.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:11 PM (QfvaV)
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20 Since Weasel brought it up, has anyone ever noticed that the chocolate used in the hollow animal genre is not right? It tastes funny and the texture is odd (I am assuming it is a consequence of trying to make the final product harder and more easily flow into the mold.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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They use vegetable oil rather than cocoa butter is my guess. FDA allowed that shit years ago when candy mfgs argued that high prices of cocoa at the time should allow them a cheaper alternative.
Some of it is also loaded with food additives such as preservatives.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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They use vegetable oil rather than cocoa butter is my guess. FDA allowed that shit years ago when candy mfgs argued that high prices of cocoa at the time should allow them a cheaper alternative.
Some of it is also loaded with food additives such as preservatives.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:11 PM (ctrM5)
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Hmmm, looking at the map, blue all the way to Texas.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 20, 2025 07:12 PM (bss/y)
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Happy Easter, Weasel!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 20, 2025 07:12 PM (cweKM)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:13 PM (tT6L1)
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Just got word my wife Linda has died.
I would say your prayers were answered, as she passed quickly, without pain or struggle, under the comfort of good drugs.
Her last complaint to me was that the lights were so bright. This is after I closed the blinds and made the room as dark as possible.
Easter is the answer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 20, 2025 11:43 AM (u82oZ)
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Baruch hashem the true Judge.
May her memory be a blessing.
I would say your prayers were answered, as she passed quickly, without pain or struggle, under the comfort of good drugs.
Her last complaint to me was that the lights were so bright. This is after I closed the blinds and made the room as dark as possible.
Easter is the answer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 20, 2025 11:43 AM (u82oZ)
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Baruch hashem the true Judge.
May her memory be a blessing.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 20, 2025 07:13 PM (RIvkX)
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I have a P365 XL and I have never cared for the trigger. It feels odd and there is a very heavy pause right before it shoots and the reset feels like plastic on plastic. I quit shooting it and it sits in the box in the gun safe.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 20, 2025 07:13 PM (e5NfL)
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Hmmm, looking at the map, blue all the way to Texas.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Great reason to relocate!
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Great reason to relocate!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 20, 2025 07:14 PM (A3mDl)
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So very sorry, NaCLy.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 20, 2025 07:15 PM (bss/y)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 20, 2025 07:16 PM (A3mDl)
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TN had a problem with people getting unjust impaired driving charges.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:10 PM (ctrM5)
Lackluster channel on youtube just dropped a video of nasty TN cops fvcking with a guy because he hurt a cop's feelz. They are on bodycam openly conspiring to coordinate their false reporting.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:10 PM (ctrM5)
Lackluster channel on youtube just dropped a video of nasty TN cops fvcking with a guy because he hurt a cop's feelz. They are on bodycam openly conspiring to coordinate their false reporting.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 20, 2025 07:16 PM (ufFY8)
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That P365 shoots when you shake it video is very clickbait-y as that is not the problem described. I think this guy has a bit or beef with Sig for whatever reason (I believe I have seen a P320 video by him that also seemed to overstate the P320 issue.)
At any rate the "shoots when you shake it" only applies with the trigger depressed. Something seems wrong with that particular pistol as the slide seems to be hanging up a bit and the striker will not strike as in the intro he shows depressed trigger does its job when you push on the slide some.
It's like saying that there is a serious problem with the 1911 because someone had one go full auto at the range.
At any rate the "shoots when you shake it" only applies with the trigger depressed. Something seems wrong with that particular pistol as the slide seems to be hanging up a bit and the striker will not strike as in the intro he shows depressed trigger does its job when you push on the slide some.
It's like saying that there is a serious problem with the 1911 because someone had one go full auto at the range.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:17 PM (QfvaV)
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Sorry for your loss, Salty.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:18 PM (tT6L1)
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Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 20, 2025 11:43 AM
Prayers and condolences for you and your family, Salty. May her memory be eternal.
Prayers and condolences for you and your family, Salty. May her memory be eternal.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2025 07:18 PM (Wnv9h)
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Salty, my condolences.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:20 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 20, 2025 07:20 PM (vm8sq)
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I'm so sorry to hear this, NaCly Dog. At least she passed without pain, and knowing you were there for her.
May the Good Lord help you, your family, and friends to deal with this loss. May the memories of the good times together bring you happiness and peace.
May the Good Lord help you, your family, and friends to deal with this loss. May the memories of the good times together bring you happiness and peace.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 20, 2025 07:21 PM (VNX3d)
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If him or her ask you to take it out of your wallet with your toes, then take it out of your wallet with your toes.
Ok, but I draw the line if s/he asks me to shave my toes.
Ok, but I draw the line if s/he asks me to shave my toes.
Posted by: Frodo Baggins at April 20, 2025 07:22 PM (0sNs1)
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31 I have a P365 XL and I have never cared for the trigger. It feels odd and there is a very heavy pause right before it shoots and the reset feels like plastic on plastic. I quit shooting it and it sits in the box in the gun safe.
Posted by: Mister Scott
The new chassis system has its virtues but so far not great triggers. Polymer frames generally have poorer triggers (if glass rod snapping is your criteria) than metal framed firearms.
Polymer frames deflect and move more during firing and that includes the pins through the frame to hold the trigger in place which can subtly change trigger geometry. That same issue can hurt accuracy a bit also compared with metal framed pistolas but at the same time have less felt recoil due the frame flexing.
So, people improving polymer, if not chassis types, triggers rely on aftermarket kits for the most part where key parts are polished, replaced, etc. to get the best trigger to be had from it like APEX for the M&P, and several options for Glocks.
Metal framed pistols, generally rely on gunsmiths carefully polishing certain surfaces and changing out springs.
To do that with a chassis fired, you have to replace the 'gun' aka chassis.
Posted by: Mister Scott
The new chassis system has its virtues but so far not great triggers. Polymer frames generally have poorer triggers (if glass rod snapping is your criteria) than metal framed firearms.
Polymer frames deflect and move more during firing and that includes the pins through the frame to hold the trigger in place which can subtly change trigger geometry. That same issue can hurt accuracy a bit also compared with metal framed pistolas but at the same time have less felt recoil due the frame flexing.
So, people improving polymer, if not chassis types, triggers rely on aftermarket kits for the most part where key parts are polished, replaced, etc. to get the best trigger to be had from it like APEX for the M&P, and several options for Glocks.
Metal framed pistols, generally rely on gunsmiths carefully polishing certain surfaces and changing out springs.
To do that with a chassis fired, you have to replace the 'gun' aka chassis.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:23 PM (ctrM5)
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Gub!
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 20, 2025 07:23 PM (mH6SG)
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I'm very sorry, NaCLy.
Posted by: Puddleglum, drive by pew pew at April 20, 2025 07:23 PM (sAmhv)
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Lackluster channel on youtube just dropped a video of nasty TN cops fvcking with a guy because he hurt a cop's feelz. They are on bodycam openly conspiring to coordinate their false reporting.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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Somewhere about 600 or so in the last two years of wrongful charges of impaired driving. TN now requires blood tests (due to dope smokers) instead of the older breathanalyzer tests to catch impaired drivers and excessive reliance on dubious field sobriety tests. Backlog of blood tests at labs is months because they check for all substances to back up their charges.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
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Somewhere about 600 or so in the last two years of wrongful charges of impaired driving. TN now requires blood tests (due to dope smokers) instead of the older breathanalyzer tests to catch impaired drivers and excessive reliance on dubious field sobriety tests. Backlog of blood tests at labs is months because they check for all substances to back up their charges.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Prayers and condolences to Salty.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 20, 2025 07:27 PM (/y8xj)
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FWIW, that NaCly Dog post was on this morning's book thread with Professor Squirrel.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:27 PM (ctrM5)
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NaCly Dog, my sincere condolences to you. I lost my dear wife on the morning before Thanksgiving, 2022 and I still miss her terribly. But I know that she is in a better place now, free from pain, and that I will see her again one day.
Posted by: That SOB Van Owen at April 20, 2025 07:29 PM (Hdixl)
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Willowed from Food Thread....
Chocolate Fudge Sundae for supper.
Posted by: Eromero
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I'm on my way, don't eat all the ice cream!
Chocolate Fudge Sundae for supper.
Posted by: Eromero
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I'm on my way, don't eat all the ice cream!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:29 PM (IQ6Gq)
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WS thinking today discussing past Easter. As a kid and thought those big hollw chocolate rabbit were a bit waxy
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2025 07:30 PM (ypFCm)
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Since Weasel has introduced the po-lease into this week's GT, I shall relate an interesting happening about two weeks ago.
I was gassing up at a local stop-n-rob. The printer on the pump wasn't working, and I was making my way inside to get a receipt, when I noticed a fairly tatted-up woman filling up, while talking into a phone, and with a lit cigarette in the other. There were a couple of cops fueling up as well.
Just as I was egressing, the woman squirted gas on her arm as she was trying to return the nozzle to the pump. A second or so later, it caught fire from her cigarette. She jumped back and started waving her arm back and forth vigorously. The cops ran over to her, and helped her get it out. An ambulance showed up and checked her out, but rather than go with them, the cops arrested her, and put her in their car.
As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
I was gassing up at a local stop-n-rob. The printer on the pump wasn't working, and I was making my way inside to get a receipt, when I noticed a fairly tatted-up woman filling up, while talking into a phone, and with a lit cigarette in the other. There were a couple of cops fueling up as well.
Just as I was egressing, the woman squirted gas on her arm as she was trying to return the nozzle to the pump. A second or so later, it caught fire from her cigarette. She jumped back and started waving her arm back and forth vigorously. The cops ran over to her, and helped her get it out. An ambulance showed up and checked her out, but rather than go with them, the cops arrested her, and put her in their car.
As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1)
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Prayers up, Salty.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 20, 2025 07:32 PM (mH6SG)
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A lot of loss here it seems. It's been better said than I can.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 07:33 PM (1MVbl)
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36 That P365 shoots when you shake it video is very clickbait-y as that is not the problem described. I think this guy has a bit or beef with Sig for whatever reason (I believe I have seen a P320 video by him that also seemed to overstate the P320 issue.)
At any rate the "shoots when you shake it" only applies with the trigger depressed. Something seems wrong with that particular pistol as the slide seems to be hanging up a bit and the striker will not strike as in the intro he shows depressed trigger does its job when you push on the slide some.
It's like saying that there is a serious problem with the 1911 because someone had one go full auto at the range.
Posted by: blaster
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True, when you depress the trigger safety, you have circumvented the firing pin block in that design and thus shaking it could cause it to discharge at that point whether from completing the rest of the short trigger stroke or because with the firing pin block moved out of position, the sear slips a bit.
Not crazy about that particular design but if it was particular unsafe, the military would have had multiple issues with Private Pyles at the gun range already.
At any rate the "shoots when you shake it" only applies with the trigger depressed. Something seems wrong with that particular pistol as the slide seems to be hanging up a bit and the striker will not strike as in the intro he shows depressed trigger does its job when you push on the slide some.
It's like saying that there is a serious problem with the 1911 because someone had one go full auto at the range.
Posted by: blaster
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True, when you depress the trigger safety, you have circumvented the firing pin block in that design and thus shaking it could cause it to discharge at that point whether from completing the rest of the short trigger stroke or because with the firing pin block moved out of position, the sear slips a bit.
Not crazy about that particular design but if it was particular unsafe, the military would have had multiple issues with Private Pyles at the gun range already.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:33 PM (ctrM5)
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(if glass rod snapping is your criteria)
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:23 PM
A fine criterium it is.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:23 PM
A fine criterium it is.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:33 PM (0sNs1)
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As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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You should be charged for that joke yourself.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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You should be charged for that joke yourself.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:34 PM (ctrM5)
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As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1
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HA!!!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1
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HA!!!
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 07:34 PM (MvZ7K)
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As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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You should be charged for that joke yourself.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:34 PM (ctrM5)
Are you sure it wasn't "Exposing a concealed fire arm?"
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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You should be charged for that joke yourself.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:34 PM (ctrM5)
Are you sure it wasn't "Exposing a concealed fire arm?"
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at April 20, 2025 07:35 PM (VNX3d)
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Salty, from your arms to Jesus' arms, may she live forever.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:36 PM (IQ6Gq)
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A fine article exploring "The .41 Magnum and a Lesson in Ignoring Experts":
https://tinyurl.com/3rjw7cmx
https://tinyurl.com/3rjw7cmx
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:36 PM (0sNs1)
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Evening all.
No shooting til next Sunday. Pulled out a couple,of pistols today to see if now cataract and astigmatism free dominent eye made a difference. Mixed results. The 22 sighting seemed fine. But the old G48 could not get a fix without closing the left eye. However had not trouble picking up the green dot with the G48 with Holosun. Won't know for sure til I try everything at the range and EdL said he'd bring a gun with an ACog because I'm curious about whether it will make a difference with a scope.
No shooting til next Sunday. Pulled out a couple,of pistols today to see if now cataract and astigmatism free dominent eye made a difference. Mixed results. The 22 sighting seemed fine. But the old G48 could not get a fix without closing the left eye. However had not trouble picking up the green dot with the G48 with Holosun. Won't know for sure til I try everything at the range and EdL said he'd bring a gun with an ACog because I'm curious about whether it will make a difference with a scope.
Posted by: Sharon(mwillow's apprentice) at April 20, 2025 07:36 PM (t/2Uw)
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Thing is, with all the stupidity in the world, I wasn't really sure Duncanthrax was joking.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:37 PM (tT6L1)
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A fine criterium it is.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Revolvers are one of the few examples (outside of purposeful match built semi autos or those worked on by master gunsmiths), that can have that glass rod breaking trigger, at least in single action, straight from the factory if made by a good manufacturer.
The rest generally require monkeying around with and in some cases, can make them unsafe. Almost always, never try to 'improve' a single action trigger pull by stoning the single action notch on a double action revolver. You will likely create an unsafe firearm. Usually better to replace the hammer or something else if the single action notch is messed up.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Revolvers are one of the few examples (outside of purposeful match built semi autos or those worked on by master gunsmiths), that can have that glass rod breaking trigger, at least in single action, straight from the factory if made by a good manufacturer.
The rest generally require monkeying around with and in some cases, can make them unsafe. Almost always, never try to 'improve' a single action trigger pull by stoning the single action notch on a double action revolver. You will likely create an unsafe firearm. Usually better to replace the hammer or something else if the single action notch is messed up.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:39 PM (ctrM5)
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Sharon, shooting isn't really the issue right now. What we really need to know is: Do we need to bring hot irons to TX this year?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:39 PM (tT6L1)
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I’m gonna call bs on the sig 365xl issue while I’m waiting to eat my second desert. Sig has been very responsive to any reported issues, especially if you’re .mil. They’ve have addressed a lot of these cases in detail and it’s beating a dead horse at this point. Their people are always on top of these things to the point they’re practically eating the food out of your fridge. Now, there isn’t a stock trigger on a single pistol I have that hasn’t been worked, bar none. I don’t like any of them because I’m picky about a single feel across all my weapons. But enough already.
“ To all perfection I see a limit, but your commands are boundless.”
Psalm 119:96
“ To all perfection I see a limit, but your commands are boundless.”
Psalm 119:96
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 07:39 PM (t64lJ)
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Took my new H&K CC9 to the range this weekend for the first time. My first rounds fired were Federal Syntech 124 grain ammo. Recoil with this round was a bit more than "mild," but still definitely controllable. But for reasons still unknown, the rounds impacted a bit low on a 10 yard target. I did manage to get a decent group. I also tried shooting one handed at 7 yards. The rounds weren't tight, but it wasn't bad considering that it was one hand only.
Next up, 124 grain frangible +P ammo. This ammo shot to point of aim, but felt recoil definitely entered what I'd call "significant" territory. It's still controllable, but I tired quickly when shooting this round. Interestingly, I shot a tighter group at 10 yards with the +P rounds than I did with the normal pressure Syntech ammo. One handed with +P ammo is quite a handful.
My LGS only had Federal 147 grain HST on hand for defense ammo, so I tested some.in the CC9. Again, felt recoil was fairly stout, but I shot a pretty tight group at ten yards and one handed at 7 yards. Total rounds fired: 50 rounds. No malfunctions of any kind - you expect that out of an H&K. (1 of 2)
Next up, 124 grain frangible +P ammo. This ammo shot to point of aim, but felt recoil definitely entered what I'd call "significant" territory. It's still controllable, but I tired quickly when shooting this round. Interestingly, I shot a tighter group at 10 yards with the +P rounds than I did with the normal pressure Syntech ammo. One handed with +P ammo is quite a handful.
My LGS only had Federal 147 grain HST on hand for defense ammo, so I tested some.in the CC9. Again, felt recoil was fairly stout, but I shot a pretty tight group at ten yards and one handed at 7 yards. Total rounds fired: 50 rounds. No malfunctions of any kind - you expect that out of an H&K. (1 of 2)
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:39 PM (AiJK3)
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Slow, so been checking the vids. I love old rusty firearm reclamation. Not that I would let my guns get that way.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:39 PM (X0fmk)
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Are you sure it wasn't "Exposing a concealed fire arm?"
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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One of the big problems around my house comes from concealed fire ants but not flaming arms.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf
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One of the big problems around my house comes from concealed fire ants but not flaming arms.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:40 PM (ctrM5)
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Happy Easter to all who celebrate...no range report, and probably won't have one for awhile. Family matters taking the priority. Prayers for all who need them, whether they've asked or not.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:40 PM (IQ6Gq)
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A man who would make a pun would steal a purse
Dr. Maturin
Dr. Maturin
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 07:41 PM (cPGH3)
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Not crazy about that particular design but if it was particular unsafe, the military would have had multiple issues with Private Pyles at the gun range already.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:33 PM (ctrM5)
It would shock you or not to know how many in our military are total fucking idiots, DEI functaranaies and other various dregs.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:33 PM (ctrM5)
It would shock you or not to know how many in our military are total fucking idiots, DEI functaranaies and other various dregs.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 07:41 PM (1MVbl)
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Little Bunny!
Posted by: Skipper at April 20, 2025 07:42 PM (63Dwl)
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Striker fired pistol triggers are convenient. More Chardonnay?
Posted by: Deplorable Minion at April 20, 2025 07:44 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 07:44 PM (HlyYF)
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68 Slow, so been checking the vids. I love old rusty firearm reclamation. Not that I would let my guns get that way.
Posted by: RI Red
If you are unfortunate enough to have a fire and your firearms are in a gunsafe. Break into that safe asap as when gypsum is exposed to a fire, it creates steam which then accelerates rust on the firearms with. Flooding via waterhoses putting out the fire can make it even worse.
Quickest way from pristine to rusty you can get.
Also avoid those that end up getting a really dark bluish shiny surface after a fire (usually stocks and other wood/plastic parts are charred or melted in the safe as well.
It is essentially a variant of fire bluing but unlike Colt did back in the day, uncontrolled temperatures basically ruin the steel temper to teh extent these can be dangerous to fire. Get a master gunsmith to look over these if that happens as they might be a display piece from that point forward in time.
Posted by: RI Red
If you are unfortunate enough to have a fire and your firearms are in a gunsafe. Break into that safe asap as when gypsum is exposed to a fire, it creates steam which then accelerates rust on the firearms with. Flooding via waterhoses putting out the fire can make it even worse.
Quickest way from pristine to rusty you can get.
Also avoid those that end up getting a really dark bluish shiny surface after a fire (usually stocks and other wood/plastic parts are charred or melted in the safe as well.
It is essentially a variant of fire bluing but unlike Colt did back in the day, uncontrolled temperatures basically ruin the steel temper to teh extent these can be dangerous to fire. Get a master gunsmith to look over these if that happens as they might be a display piece from that point forward in time.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:44 PM (ctrM5)
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I was gassing up at a local stop-n-rob. The printer on the pump wasn't working, and I was making my way inside to get a receipt, when I noticed a fairly tatted-up woman filling up, while talking into a phone, and with a lit cigarette in the other. There were a couple of cops fueling up as well.
Just as I was egressing, the woman squirted gas on her arm as she was trying to return the nozzle to the pump. A second or so later, it caught fire from her cigarette. She jumped back and started waving her arm back and forth vigorously. The cops ran over to her, and helped her get it out. An ambulance showed up and checked her out, but rather than go with them, the cops arrested her, and put her in their car.
As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1)
{groan}
I was gassing up at a local stop-n-rob. The printer on the pump wasn't working, and I was making my way inside to get a receipt, when I noticed a fairly tatted-up woman filling up, while talking into a phone, and with a lit cigarette in the other. There were a couple of cops fueling up as well.
Just as I was egressing, the woman squirted gas on her arm as she was trying to return the nozzle to the pump. A second or so later, it caught fire from her cigarette. She jumped back and started waving her arm back and forth vigorously. The cops ran over to her, and helped her get it out. An ambulance showed up and checked her out, but rather than go with them, the cops arrested her, and put her in their car.
As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1)
{groan}
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at April 20, 2025 07:45 PM (v23vE)
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"The Brain from Planet Aroused" is more like it. Turns out Gor likes the idea of physicality.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 20, 2025 07:45 PM (CHHv1)
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So, range report: The ugly. First off, the 06 has seen its last match until the new barrel arrives. From the way it's acting, I believe it's basically a smooth bore for the first few inches before the round engages the rifling.
With that, I hit the 1,000 yard match and shot every bit as well as I thought I would. Not to mention not keeping down on the rifle, following through the shot, etc. It was just bad. The only up side of the match was, I did catch the wind shift. In a matter of just a couple minutes the wind completely shifted from left to right to right to left. But, I didn't compensate enough, as it gusted up far more than I compensated for. I managed to shoot myself to a last place finish of 70. I've been running very middle of the pack but yesterday just was not my day.
With that, I hit the 1,000 yard match and shot every bit as well as I thought I would. Not to mention not keeping down on the rifle, following through the shot, etc. It was just bad. The only up side of the match was, I did catch the wind shift. In a matter of just a couple minutes the wind completely shifted from left to right to right to left. But, I didn't compensate enough, as it gusted up far more than I compensated for. I managed to shoot myself to a last place finish of 70. I've been running very middle of the pack but yesterday just was not my day.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:46 PM (tT6L1)
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Almost every single alleged sig .mil UD has been adjudicated as an ND. I know you’re surprised to hear that.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 07:46 PM (t64lJ)
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Last time I got stopped, I offered the DPS trooper my LTC but he didn't even look. About the only problem I had was getting my app to work so I could show him my proof of insurance. I was stopped for about two minutes and given a warning and sent on my way. (Of course, I don't know if that had anything to do with my license plates - it was the first time I got stopped with my "Retired USAF" tags. Did he see them and conclude "This ain't a knucklehead"? Don't know. But oddly, he didn't grab the LTC and asked me nothing about guns.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 20, 2025 07:46 PM (vm8sq)
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70 Happy Easter to all who celebrate...no range report, and probably won't have one for awhile. Family matters taking the priority. Prayers for all who need them, whether they've asked or not.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:40 PM (IQ6Gq)
Sorry to hear that, ma'am. Prayers up for you and your family.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:40 PM (IQ6Gq)
Sorry to hear that, ma'am. Prayers up for you and your family.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at April 20, 2025 07:47 PM (v23vE)
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It would shock you or not to know how many in our military are total fucking idiots, DEI functaranaies and other various dregs.
Posted by: coyne
Eh, other than DEI types, my father was an Army Officer (Ordnance) in the post Vietnam end of the draft era before the Reagan revival. Some units had their officers be escorted by MPs if they had cause to visit enlisted barracks. Stripes (movie) was the funny side of it but Army in particular was desperate for warm bodies and enlisted a lot of people that should have never been admitted into the Army.
Posted by: coyne
Eh, other than DEI types, my father was an Army Officer (Ordnance) in the post Vietnam end of the draft era before the Reagan revival. Some units had their officers be escorted by MPs if they had cause to visit enlisted barracks. Stripes (movie) was the funny side of it but Army in particular was desperate for warm bodies and enlisted a lot of people that should have never been admitted into the Army.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 07:47 PM (ctrM5)
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Hi Blake
Did manage to talk to the hip scheduler this week and it turns out she is waiting for the schedule for August/september. I chatted with her for a while and told her I needed the last week in August because my son is returning from a trip and will be available to help out. She said she would make a note. Not everybody calls so I'm hoping that extra bit of nice will work on my favor. If that happens, I'll have at least 6 weeks to Texas. So, made plane reservations.🤠
Did manage to talk to the hip scheduler this week and it turns out she is waiting for the schedule for August/september. I chatted with her for a while and told her I needed the last week in August because my son is returning from a trip and will be available to help out. She said she would make a note. Not everybody calls so I'm hoping that extra bit of nice will work on my favor. If that happens, I'll have at least 6 weeks to Texas. So, made plane reservations.🤠
Posted by: Sharon(mwillow's apprentice) at April 20, 2025 07:47 PM (t/2Uw)
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Wow, very sorry to hear that, NaCly. If it was quick and painless that is a mercy.
I think I met you at the 24 NoVa. All prayers forward.
I think I met you at the 24 NoVa. All prayers forward.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 20, 2025 07:47 PM (CHHv1)
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H&K CC9 (2 of 2)
Three up, three down summary:
Pluses:
- Trigger is good (reported at about 5 pounds).
- Uses lever to disassemble pistol. No need to squeeze trigger as part field stripping.
- Good ergonomics. Fits my hand well, especially with 12 round magazines. 10 round magazines are OK.
Minuses:
- Cost ($699 MSRP - expensive for its class)
- All controls and the slide are really stiff right out of the box.
- Felt recoil might be uncomfortable for some, especially when using defensive loads.
Three up, three down summary:
Pluses:
- Trigger is good (reported at about 5 pounds).
- Uses lever to disassemble pistol. No need to squeeze trigger as part field stripping.
- Good ergonomics. Fits my hand well, especially with 12 round magazines. 10 round magazines are OK.
Minuses:
- Cost ($699 MSRP - expensive for its class)
- All controls and the slide are really stiff right out of the box.
- Felt recoil might be uncomfortable for some, especially when using defensive loads.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:48 PM (AiJK3)
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It would shock you or not to know how many in our military are total fucking idiots, DEI functaranaies and other various dregs.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 07:41 PM (1MVbl)
The unfortunate truth. I'm happy to be retired, and I'll leave it at that.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 07:41 PM (1MVbl)
The unfortunate truth. I'm happy to be retired, and I'll leave it at that.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 20, 2025 07:49 PM (vm8sq)
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Sorry to hear that, ma'am. Prayers up for you and your family.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless
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Thanks my friend, we appreciate them. And congrats on your #1 post. Hope you had a happy Easter.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless
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Thanks my friend, we appreciate them. And congrats on your #1 post. Hope you had a happy Easter.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:50 PM (IQ6Gq)
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EB films=Easter Bunny
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 20, 2025 07:51 PM (63Dwl)
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The Easter Bunny will never be the same for me, ever since Joe soiled his diaper when he was surprised by one.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:52 PM (tT6L1)
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Weasel, got that retirement countdown going on?
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:52 PM (X0fmk)
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- Cost ($699 MSRP - expensive for its class)
- All controls and the slide are really stiff right out of the box.
- Felt recoil might be uncomfortable for some, especially when using defensive loads.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:48 PM (AiJK3)
Ed what is the street price - that MSRP is about what its competirors - Hellcat and P365 list around there, or at least did when first released, but of course their street price is well south.
- All controls and the slide are really stiff right out of the box.
- Felt recoil might be uncomfortable for some, especially when using defensive loads.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:48 PM (AiJK3)
Ed what is the street price - that MSRP is about what its competirors - Hellcat and P365 list around there, or at least did when first released, but of course their street price is well south.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:52 PM (QfvaV)
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- All controls and the slide are really stiff right out of the box.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:48 PM
Ed, my personal experience w/H&Ks is that the first 200 rounds with 124 gr ammo helps with the break-in.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:48 PM
Ed, my personal experience w/H&Ks is that the first 200 rounds with 124 gr ammo helps with the break-in.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)
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>> Easter is the answer.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 20, 2025 11:43 AM (u82oZ
“ he will swallow up death forever. The Sovereign Lord will wipe away the tears from all faces; he will remove his people’s disgrace from all the earth. The Lord has spoken.”
Isaiah 25:8
Posted by: NaCly Dog at April 20, 2025 11:43 AM (u82oZ
“ he will swallow up death forever. The Sovereign Lord will wipe away the tears from all faces; he will remove his people’s disgrace from all the earth. The Lord has spoken.”
Isaiah 25:8
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 07:54 PM (t64lJ)
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Weasel, if you've made the retirement announcement official, this handy link will allow you to create and share your very own retirement calendar:
https://tinyurl.com/54jheuyj
https://tinyurl.com/54jheuyj
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:54 PM (tT6L1)
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A runny babbit!
Good evening to the GunHorde and a very happy Easter. Thanks as always, Weasel and blessings on you and your household
Good evening to the GunHorde and a very happy Easter. Thanks as always, Weasel and blessings on you and your household
Posted by: Coelacanth at April 20, 2025 07:54 PM (oEwws)
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Catch, the outcome of traffic stops are inherently random and at times entirely arbitrary. Just be thankful you emerged unscathed.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 07:54 PM (1MVbl)
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Weasel, got that retirement countdown going on?
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:52 PM (X0fmk)
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Sort of! I am 100% happy with my decision, so no regrets there. I also liked where I was and had been at it for a while and it's not like I was itching to leave. I did find the little wooden canoe model and Wright Flyer model I had purchased years ago, so I'll probably get started on one of those first. And go to the farm and smoke cigars.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 07:52 PM (X0fmk)
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Sort of! I am 100% happy with my decision, so no regrets there. I also liked where I was and had been at it for a while and it's not like I was itching to leave. I did find the little wooden canoe model and Wright Flyer model I had purchased years ago, so I'll probably get started on one of those first. And go to the farm and smoke cigars.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 07:56 PM (kKRwe)
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Last time I was stopped, I pulled myself over. So, not actually a stop, I guess.
i saw the cop going the other way, looked at my speedometer, watched my rear view, the cop flipped a U so, I pulled over. I was the only one going the other way, so, pretty safe bet.
I was let off with a warning even though I was 10 over.
i saw the cop going the other way, looked at my speedometer, watched my rear view, the cop flipped a U so, I pulled over. I was the only one going the other way, so, pretty safe bet.
I was let off with a warning even though I was 10 over.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (tT6L1)
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BTW and ND can be a career ender in the military. ICMJ Article 135 prescribes a range of treatments and circumstances. Nobody who is looking to stay in wants that on their record. There are a lot of reasons soldiers say “it was the gun”.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (t64lJ)
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I don't have any gun stufff, but some organic tree farming.
I bought this old flail mower that had a Wisonsin v-twin engine on it. I couldn't get it to crank and went through several things that should have fixed it. Still nothing, not even a cough out of it. I finally reached a point of realizing that life is short, and even if I got it running, its still a 50 year old engine with expensive parts and little support. I am going to repower it with a cheap Chinese Honda clone with more power and half the displacement and plenty of parts availability. The vintage engine still impresses me - the quality of the metal is different from back then, and it isn't like the 70s were the glory days of US manufacturing. I will still keep it as a project.
I bought this old flail mower that had a Wisonsin v-twin engine on it. I couldn't get it to crank and went through several things that should have fixed it. Still nothing, not even a cough out of it. I finally reached a point of realizing that life is short, and even if I got it running, its still a 50 year old engine with expensive parts and little support. I am going to repower it with a cheap Chinese Honda clone with more power and half the displacement and plenty of parts availability. The vintage engine still impresses me - the quality of the metal is different from back then, and it isn't like the 70s were the glory days of US manufacturing. I will still keep it as a project.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (QfvaV)
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Meant Article 134. I blame the lasagna.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (t64lJ)
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Ed what is the street price - that MSRP is about what its competirors - Hellcat and P365 list around there, or at least did when first released, but of course their street price is well south.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:52 PM (QfvaV)
Expect to pay MSRP for a while until H&K cranks up production to satisfy early demand. The CC9 was officially released right around Christmas 2024, so a lot of retailers haven't seen one yet. It's still pretty scarce. The one I have was the only one I saw at Chantilly last week.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:52 PM (QfvaV)
Expect to pay MSRP for a while until H&K cranks up production to satisfy early demand. The CC9 was officially released right around Christmas 2024, so a lot of retailers haven't seen one yet. It's still pretty scarce. The one I have was the only one I saw at Chantilly last week.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:58 PM (AiJK3)
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 07:58 PM (kKRwe)
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Ed, my personal experience w/H&Ks is that the first 200 rounds with 124 gr ammo helps with the break-in.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)
Thanks for info, Duncanthrax. I'm hoping the rest of DMV MGC can help increase the round count at our next meeting.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:53 PM (0sNs1)
Thanks for info, Duncanthrax. I'm hoping the rest of DMV MGC can help increase the round count at our next meeting.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 07:59 PM (AiJK3)
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And go to the farm and smoke cigars.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 07:56 PM
And that, right there, sounds like a plan.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 07:56 PM
And that, right there, sounds like a plan.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2025 07:59 PM (Wnv9h)
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- Cost ($699 MSRP - expensive for its class)
- All controls and the slide are really stiff right out of the box.
- Felt recoil might be uncomfortable for some, especially when using defensive loads.
Posted by: Ed L
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Ed L. From what I've read, the H&K CCP weighs about 18-19 ounces. That is subcompact in weight and physics dictates that felt recoil is going to be an issue with that light of a weight. Same issue with Airweight or lighter snubbies firing +p 38 Special.
Folks, that is the general issue with small and light firearms, easy to carry but a lot tougher to shoot. I've found that at 28-29 oz, 9mm, even +p is not bad in recoil, as you go lower, felt recoil increases and as the frame shrinks in size, all that recoil is focused on a smaller sq area of your hand accentuating the recoil.
So always try one of these small firearms before you buy one especially if you are new to handguns. Same thing goes for light plastic stocks in rifles or even felt recoil in pistol caliber carbines (they often use a blowback mechanism to eject and load a new round) which makes felt recoil impulse heavier to the arm or shoulder than you would otherwise expect.
- All controls and the slide are really stiff right out of the box.
- Felt recoil might be uncomfortable for some, especially when using defensive loads.
Posted by: Ed L
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Ed L. From what I've read, the H&K CCP weighs about 18-19 ounces. That is subcompact in weight and physics dictates that felt recoil is going to be an issue with that light of a weight. Same issue with Airweight or lighter snubbies firing +p 38 Special.
Folks, that is the general issue with small and light firearms, easy to carry but a lot tougher to shoot. I've found that at 28-29 oz, 9mm, even +p is not bad in recoil, as you go lower, felt recoil increases and as the frame shrinks in size, all that recoil is focused on a smaller sq area of your hand accentuating the recoil.
So always try one of these small firearms before you buy one especially if you are new to handguns. Same thing goes for light plastic stocks in rifles or even felt recoil in pistol caliber carbines (they often use a blowback mechanism to eject and load a new round) which makes felt recoil impulse heavier to the arm or shoulder than you would otherwise expect.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:00 PM (ctrM5)
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Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 07:54 PM (tT6L1)
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Thanks, but I'm a pretty low-key kind of guy. On the last day I'll turn in my office key, take my box of stuff, and hit the road.
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Thanks, but I'm a pretty low-key kind of guy. On the last day I'll turn in my office key, take my box of stuff, and hit the road.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 08:01 PM (kKRwe)
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101 I don't have any gun stufff, but some organic tree farming.
I bought this old flail mower that had a Wisonsin v-twin engine on it. I couldn't get it to crank and went through several things that should have fixed it. Still nothing, not even a cough out of it. I finally reached a point of realizing that life is short, and even if I got it running, its still a 50 year old engine with expensive parts and little support. I am going to repower it with a cheap Chinese Honda clone with more power and half the displacement and plenty of parts availability. The vintage engine still impresses me - the quality of the metal is different from back then, and it isn't like the 70s were the glory days of US manufacturing. I will still keep it as a project.
Posted by: blaster
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Arrange to meet AOP on one of his jaunts. Amazing base of mechanical knowledge and experience.
I bought this old flail mower that had a Wisonsin v-twin engine on it. I couldn't get it to crank and went through several things that should have fixed it. Still nothing, not even a cough out of it. I finally reached a point of realizing that life is short, and even if I got it running, its still a 50 year old engine with expensive parts and little support. I am going to repower it with a cheap Chinese Honda clone with more power and half the displacement and plenty of parts availability. The vintage engine still impresses me - the quality of the metal is different from back then, and it isn't like the 70s were the glory days of US manufacturing. I will still keep it as a project.
Posted by: blaster
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Arrange to meet AOP on one of his jaunts. Amazing base of mechanical knowledge and experience.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:01 PM (ctrM5)
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Thanks my friend, we appreciate them. And congrats on your #1 post. Hope you had a happy Easter.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:50 PM (IQ6Gq)
We did, ma'am. Hope you did as well.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 07:50 PM (IQ6Gq)
We did, ma'am. Hope you did as well.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy - OT but harmless at April 20, 2025 08:01 PM (v23vE)
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BTW and ND can be a career ender in the military. ICMJ Article 135 prescribes a range of treatments and circumstances. Nobody who is looking to stay in wants that on their record. There are a lot of reasons soldiers say “it was the gun”.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (t64lJ)
Saw that happen once in Baghdad in 2008 to an O-6 who shot the clearing barrel. He got a letter of reprimand signed by General Petraeus in his personnel file. During 2011-12 in Kabul, there were three instances of staff officers/NCOs shooting the clearing barrel or something they weren't supposed to that I know of. A letter of reprimand signed by a two-star is enough to kill anyone's career.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (t64lJ)
Saw that happen once in Baghdad in 2008 to an O-6 who shot the clearing barrel. He got a letter of reprimand signed by General Petraeus in his personnel file. During 2011-12 in Kabul, there were three instances of staff officers/NCOs shooting the clearing barrel or something they weren't supposed to that I know of. A letter of reprimand signed by a two-star is enough to kill anyone's career.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:04 PM (AiJK3)
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Well, I agree with RMBS spending a few days at the farm keeping an eye on trees seems like an excellent plan.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 08:05 PM (tT6L1)
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I bought this old flail mower that had a Wisonsin v-twin engine on it. I couldn't get it to crank and went through several things that should have fixed it. Still nothing, not even a cough out of it. I finally reached a point of realizing that life is short, and even if I got it running, its still a 50 year old engine with expensive parts and little support. I am going to repower it with a cheap Chinese Honda clone with more power and half the displacement and plenty of parts availability. The vintage engine still impresses me - the quality of the metal is different from back then, and it isn't like the 70s were the glory days of US manufacturing. I will still keep it as a project.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
No, no, no! I have 5 Wisconsin engines. You know how old they are. They run when nothing else does.
Newer engines are disposable... so there's that appeal.
Nothings easier to rebuild then a a Wisconsin. Very basic.
A do have a VG4D for sale, by the way. About the same as any new 35 HP engine.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
No, no, no! I have 5 Wisconsin engines. You know how old they are. They run when nothing else does.
Newer engines are disposable... so there's that appeal.
Nothings easier to rebuild then a a Wisconsin. Very basic.
A do have a VG4D for sale, by the way. About the same as any new 35 HP engine.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:05 PM (cPGH3)
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I'd like nothing better than to retire and go to the farm. My clients won't leave me alone though, and three elderly parents need attention. Then there's the cats.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:06 PM (vFG9F)
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So always try one of these small firearms before you buy one especially if you are new to handguns. Same thing goes for light plastic stocks in rifles or even felt recoil in pistol caliber carbines (they often use a blowback mechanism to eject and load a new round) which makes felt recoil impulse heavier to the arm or shoulder than you would otherwise expect.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:00 PM (ctrM5)
I definitely would NOT recommend a CC9 as anyone's first pistol, let alone firearm.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:00 PM (ctrM5)
I definitely would NOT recommend a CC9 as anyone's first pistol, let alone firearm.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:06 PM (AiJK3)
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OK, rookie question:
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
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As I returned to my car, I asked one of the cops what they arrested her for. He looked at me like I was slightly retarded, and said "Brandishing a fire arm."
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1)
Heh. I know it's a joke, but seriously, anyone foolish enough to start a fire that way (by breaking several safety rules) should be arrested for criminal negligence. Deaths of innocent people could result.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 07:31 PM (0sNs1)
Heh. I know it's a joke, but seriously, anyone foolish enough to start a fire that way (by breaking several safety rules) should be arrested for criminal negligence. Deaths of innocent people could result.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM (8zz6B)
118
Crawfish are fucking gross.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM (5AVMW)
119
Arrange to meet AOP on one of his jaunts. Amazing base of mechanical knowledge and experience.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:01 PM (ctrM5)
I like when he works on the Panhard rod - on an actual Panhard!
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:01 PM (ctrM5)
I like when he works on the Panhard rod - on an actual Panhard!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM (QfvaV)
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“ Saw that happen once in Baghdad in 2008 to an O-6 who shot the clearing barrel. He got a letter of reprimand signed by General Petraeus in his personnel file. During 2011-12 in Kabul, there were three instances of staff officers/NCOs shooting the clearing barrel or something they weren't supposed to that I know of. A letter of reprimand signed by a two-star is enough to kill anyone's career.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:04 PM (AiJK3)”
If I had a dollar for every time an O shot the barrel, I’d be retired living in Fiji. I knew a guy in the 25th who for that same letter from Petraeus. It was a real problem at the time.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:04 PM (AiJK3)”
If I had a dollar for every time an O shot the barrel, I’d be retired living in Fiji. I knew a guy in the 25th who for that same letter from Petraeus. It was a real problem at the time.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 08:08 PM (QIKsx)
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Well, time to wander.
Thanks again for the thread, weasel!
Enjoy your retirement of organic tree farming and cigar QC!
Thanks again for the thread, weasel!
Enjoy your retirement of organic tree farming and cigar QC!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at April 20, 2025 08:09 PM (tT6L1)
122
I would definitely try to get the Wisconsin going. Those old engines seem like they would run forever.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:09 PM (vFG9F)
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Brief RR:
Took the two competition .22s and gave them a deep clean, then range trip. Shot with no muzzle device, muzzle brake, and suppressor, two different ammos.
Yes, they function. The operator wasn’t too bad, but the gusty Northern wind was.
First Aspirin Shoot of the year next week. I’ve seen a lot of folks practicing.
Took the two competition .22s and gave them a deep clean, then range trip. Shot with no muzzle device, muzzle brake, and suppressor, two different ammos.
Yes, they function. The operator wasn’t too bad, but the gusty Northern wind was.
First Aspirin Shoot of the year next week. I’ve seen a lot of folks practicing.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 08:10 PM (X0fmk)
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116 OK, rookie question:
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
Posted by: Grateful
Military (and some cop departments) use a 55 gallon barrel up in the air that is filled with sand usually. When you are removing active ammunition from the rifle at the end of your shift, etc., you then dry fire the weapon after you have removed the magazine and the bullet in the chamber (which not everyone checks). Thus, if you missed the live ammo and proceed to 'dry fire', the gun will go boom safely in the 'clearing barrel' with the bullet safely contained in the sand inside teh clearing barrel.
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
Posted by: Grateful
Military (and some cop departments) use a 55 gallon barrel up in the air that is filled with sand usually. When you are removing active ammunition from the rifle at the end of your shift, etc., you then dry fire the weapon after you have removed the magazine and the bullet in the chamber (which not everyone checks). Thus, if you missed the live ammo and proceed to 'dry fire', the gun will go boom safely in the 'clearing barrel' with the bullet safely contained in the sand inside teh clearing barrel.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:10 PM (ctrM5)
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No, no, no! I have 5 Wisconsin engines. You know how old they are. They run when nothing else does.
Newer engines are disposable... so there's that appeal.
Nothings easier to rebuild then a a Wisconsin. Very basic.
A do have a VG4D for sale, by the way. About the same as any new 35 HP engine.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:05 PM (cPGH3)
I'd live to get this TJD going. I see people crank them after sitting for 30 years but this one does nothing. It had the wrong magneto when I acquired it and I rebuilt the carb and made sure it was timed and it won't do anything.
No, no, no! I have 5 Wisconsin engines. You know how old they are. They run when nothing else does.
Newer engines are disposable... so there's that appeal.
Nothings easier to rebuild then a a Wisconsin. Very basic.
A do have a VG4D for sale, by the way. About the same as any new 35 HP engine.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:05 PM (cPGH3)
I'd live to get this TJD going. I see people crank them after sitting for 30 years but this one does nothing. It had the wrong magneto when I acquired it and I rebuilt the carb and made sure it was timed and it won't do anything.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:10 PM (QfvaV)
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Ayoob's hairpiece is criminal. And if as a "free American" who's already gotten the full rectal to obtain a concealed carry permit, you have to deepthroat the jackboot while making incriminating admissions to minimize the chance of getting shot, I would suggest you're not really a free American, but a subject.
Posted by: Being subjugated isn't an American value at April 20, 2025 08:10 PM (TbWk/)
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Get a VP9 SK. Have Bruce work the trigger. You won’t regret it.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 08:10 PM (QIKsx)
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So always try one of these small firearms before you buy one especially if you are new to handguns. Same thing goes for light plastic stocks in rifles or even felt recoil in pistol caliber carbines (they often use a blowback mechanism to eject and load a new round) which makes felt recoil impulse heavier to the arm or shoulder than you would otherwise expect.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:00 PM (ctrM5)
Whig, you are basically talking about hand and arm strength in firearms. So women should pick guns with low recoil.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:00 PM (ctrM5)
Whig, you are basically talking about hand and arm strength in firearms. So women should pick guns with low recoil.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 08:10 PM (1MVbl)
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OK, rookie question:
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM
It's generally a 55 gal drum full of sand and propped up at an angle. You're supposed to:
1. Clear your weapon
B. Drop the hammer on an empty chamber with the weapon pointed into the barrel.
People often forget to do Step 1. Hilarity does not ensue.
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM
It's generally a 55 gal drum full of sand and propped up at an angle. You're supposed to:
1. Clear your weapon
B. Drop the hammer on an empty chamber with the weapon pointed into the barrel.
People often forget to do Step 1. Hilarity does not ensue.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2025 08:11 PM (Wnv9h)
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Crawfish are fucking gross.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM
But mighty, mighty tasty!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM
But mighty, mighty tasty!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:11 PM (0sNs1)
131
Blaster can you make it fire with some starting fluid?
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:12 PM (vFG9F)
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118 Crawfish are fucking gross.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G)
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Depends on how they are raised. They can be much cleaner than the foreign farm raised shrimp you can buy at big grocery stores. Pretty much all crawfish is domestic and freshwater here. Quite a bit of it is farm raised.
Don't care about sucking the heads though.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G)
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Depends on how they are raised. They can be much cleaner than the foreign farm raised shrimp you can buy at big grocery stores. Pretty much all crawfish is domestic and freshwater here. Quite a bit of it is farm raised.
Don't care about sucking the heads though.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:12 PM (ctrM5)
133
Ether
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:12 PM (vFG9F)
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OK, rookie question:
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
At every military base overseas where everyone is armed at all times, you had to clear your weapons when re-entering the base (or a building) after a movement/patrol by removing the magazine, pulling the slide/bolt to the rear, checking the chamber to see it was really empty, dropping the slide/bolt on an empty chamber, and dry firing the trigger while pointing the muzzle at a clearing barrel (a 55 gallon drum filled with sand set in the dirt/ground) to render the weapon safe. However, not everyone followed the by-the-book procedure I described. If you forgot a step, that's when you could accidently/negligently chamber a round and shoot the clearing barrel.
what is shooting a clearing barrel mean. I can guess, but I'd rather know from those who know.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM (IQ6Gq)
At every military base overseas where everyone is armed at all times, you had to clear your weapons when re-entering the base (or a building) after a movement/patrol by removing the magazine, pulling the slide/bolt to the rear, checking the chamber to see it was really empty, dropping the slide/bolt on an empty chamber, and dry firing the trigger while pointing the muzzle at a clearing barrel (a 55 gallon drum filled with sand set in the dirt/ground) to render the weapon safe. However, not everyone followed the by-the-book procedure I described. If you forgot a step, that's when you could accidently/negligently chamber a round and shoot the clearing barrel.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:14 PM (AiJK3)
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131 Blaster can you make it fire with some starting fluid?
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:12 PM (vFG9F)
Nope. Nada nichts nothing. The new magneto fires and I get spark on the plugs, and after I rebuilt the carb it gets gas in there and the fuel pump works. And even spraying starting fluid I get nothing. I was thinking with spark and starrting fluid it should at least cough. But not a thing.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:12 PM (vFG9F)
Nope. Nada nichts nothing. The new magneto fires and I get spark on the plugs, and after I rebuilt the carb it gets gas in there and the fuel pump works. And even spraying starting fluid I get nothing. I was thinking with spark and starrting fluid it should at least cough. But not a thing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:14 PM (QfvaV)
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When I was living in the UK we used to end every pub crawl with a bowl of eels. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.
Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2025 08:14 PM (QIKsx)
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"And even spraying starting fluid I get nothing. I was thinking with spark and starrting fluid it should at least cough. But not a thing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adjuvant"
What's the compression like?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adjuvant"
What's the compression like?
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F)
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Anyone know from personal experience (or studies) the effect of heavy felt recoil in an actual self-defense situation?
I have NEVER felt the recoil on a deer rifle shot, or from my 12 gauge when bird shooting. I am too focused on the shot and what is behind the target.
I don't even have any adrenaline in those situations.
Is the problem that you train less with your EDC when you have heavy (uncomfortable) felt recoil?
Personally, I would rather have a small EDC piece that I was more likely to have on me 100% of the time, than a larger caliber/heavier gun that I might leave home due to carrying discomfort, chance of exposing, etc.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
I have NEVER felt the recoil on a deer rifle shot, or from my 12 gauge when bird shooting. I am too focused on the shot and what is behind the target.
I don't even have any adrenaline in those situations.
Is the problem that you train less with your EDC when you have heavy (uncomfortable) felt recoil?
Personally, I would rather have a small EDC piece that I was more likely to have on me 100% of the time, than a larger caliber/heavier gun that I might leave home due to carrying discomfort, chance of exposing, etc.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (HlyYF)
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What's the compression like?
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F)
Feels good but gotta get the gauge on there to see what the numbers are. BTW when I had the plugs out to check spark I could see valves moving in the head so they aren't stuck.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F)
Feels good but gotta get the gauge on there to see what the numbers are. BTW when I had the plugs out to check spark I could see valves moving in the head so they aren't stuck.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (QfvaV)
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I bought this old flail mower that had a Wisonsin v-twin engine on it. I couldn't get it to crank and went through several things that should have fixed it. Still nothing, not even a cough out of it. I finally reached a point of realizing that life is short, and even if I got it running, its still a 50 year old engine with expensive parts and little support. I am going to repower it with a cheap Chinese Honda clone with more power and half the displacement and plenty of parts availability. The vintage engine still impresses me - the quality of the metal is different from back then, and it isn't like the 70s were the glory days of US manufacturing. I will still keep it as a project.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (QfvaV)
Does the Wisconsin engine have an external magneto on it? Quite common on twins and fours. Some of those may be "impulse magnetos" that aid in starting. Cranking the engine winds up a spring in the magneto, which then suddenly releases and spins the magneto armature rapidly, ensuring a powerful spark. If the magneto is gummed up or rusty inside, the impulse feature may not work, and the engine will be very hard to start.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 07:57 PM (QfvaV)
Does the Wisconsin engine have an external magneto on it? Quite common on twins and fours. Some of those may be "impulse magnetos" that aid in starting. Cranking the engine winds up a spring in the magneto, which then suddenly releases and spins the magneto armature rapidly, ensuring a powerful spark. If the magneto is gummed up or rusty inside, the impulse feature may not work, and the engine will be very hard to start.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:19 PM (8zz6B)
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118 Crawfish are fucking gross.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM
My brother is going to Mississippi next month for an audit. He was already drooling today about the crawfish etouffee he was going to eat there.
Different strokes for different folks.
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at April 20, 2025 08:07 PM
My brother is going to Mississippi next month for an audit. He was already drooling today about the crawfish etouffee he was going to eat there.
Different strokes for different folks.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:19 PM (HlyYF)
142
Deep and sincere condolences to NaCly.
Posted by: Be at peace Mrs. NaCly at April 20, 2025 08:19 PM (TbWk/)
143
Any interest in seeing that two comment thread write up on the H&K CC9 get turned into a full gun thread entry?
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:20 PM (AiJK3)
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When stopped by law enforcement, the following phrases will ensure the encounter will go smoothly.
"I'm a sovereign citizen!"
"Do you know who I am?"
"I'm gonna have your badge for this."
"Guess you got to make your quota."
"Make me."
When stopped by law enforcement, the following phrases will ensure the encounter will go smoothly.
"I'm a sovereign citizen!"
"Do you know who I am?"
"I'm gonna have your badge for this."
"Guess you got to make your quota."
"Make me."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM (QnmlO)
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I think the felt recoil is an it depends thing. I still have a pair of Keltec PF9's (about 30% lighter than the P365 and HK CC9) and they are very, very snappy. Unpleasant to shoot. But, they shoot, and easy to carry.
The P365 is much better to shoot, but it is not quite like a full size.
The smallness is the point.
The P365 is much better to shoot, but it is not quite like a full size.
The smallness is the point.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM (QfvaV)
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I'd live to get this TJD going. I see people crank them after sitting for 30 years but this one does nothing. It had the wrong magneto when I acquired it and I rebuilt the carb and made sure it was timed and it won't do anything.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
Oddly enough, I have a shop manual for the TJD. First Wisconsin I ever rebuilt.
I'll give it to you. I own none now.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
Oddly enough, I have a shop manual for the TJD. First Wisconsin I ever rebuilt.
I'll give it to you. I own none now.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM (cPGH3)
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Any interest in seeing that two comment thread write up on the H&K CC9 get turned into a full gun thread entry?
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:20 PM
Yes.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:20 PM
Yes.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:22 PM (0sNs1)
148
Pillage Idiot, big hug, darlin.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 20, 2025 08:22 PM (yp8Vj)
149
Condolences to you and your family NaCly Dog
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 20, 2025 08:24 PM (6TePA)
150
s the problem that you train less with your EDC when you have heavy (uncomfortable) felt recoil?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (HlyYF)
This, and the cost of practicing with defense ammo. At $1 a round for the Federal 147 grain HST I used, it gets expensive quick.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (HlyYF)
This, and the cost of practicing with defense ammo. At $1 a round for the Federal 147 grain HST I used, it gets expensive quick.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:24 PM (AiJK3)
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Nice pairing Marty.
I think a 15 year old Dawhinnie is a great selection.
I think a 15 year old Dawhinnie is a great selection.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2025 08:24 PM (W/lyH)
152
Does the Wisconsin engine have an external magneto on it? Quite common on twins and fours. Some of those may be "impulse magnetos" that aid in starting. Cranking the engine winds up a spring in the magneto, which then suddenly releases and spins the magneto armature rapidly, ensuring a powerful spark. If the magneto is gummed up or rusty inside, the impulse feature may not work, and the engine will be very hard to start.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:19 PM (8zz6B)
Yessir impulse magneto. When I acquired it had the wrong magneto (one for a TF engine not a TJ) so $250 later I had a complete one from ebay vendors. It is correctly timed (cog mark in peep hole when flywheel at TDC) and the points correctly spaced - it sparks by itself and grounding the plug on the head will spark across the gap.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:19 PM (8zz6B)
Yessir impulse magneto. When I acquired it had the wrong magneto (one for a TF engine not a TJ) so $250 later I had a complete one from ebay vendors. It is correctly timed (cog mark in peep hole when flywheel at TDC) and the points correctly spaced - it sparks by itself and grounding the plug on the head will spark across the gap.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:24 PM (QfvaV)
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Whig, you are basically talking about hand and arm strength in firearms. So women should pick guns with low recoil.
Posted by: coyne
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Small guns can be as accurate as large ones regardless of your hand or arm strength, but in practice, most people (male or female) cannot fire a smaller gun more accurately than a bigger one.
Part of it is physics--like a short grip means that you have less leverage when the muzzle goes high so your recovery to back on sights is slower. Light weight does something similar.
Another issue can be a short sightline. You have a shorter sightline with a 3 inch barrel than a 5 inch pistola and yes, you have red dots, etc. nowadays that use a single sight plane but that introduces new problems in concealibility, relying on an electronic device that could fail, and so on.
I am a big burly guy that is a passable shooter of firearms before becoming riddled with arthritis but while I could shoot a steel framed snubbie quite well, I could shoot my GP-100 4 inch barrel better and faster on targets even shooting lighter 357 Magnum rounds.
Small and light has its place generally where you need a backup firearm or a well concealed one.
Posted by: coyne
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Small guns can be as accurate as large ones regardless of your hand or arm strength, but in practice, most people (male or female) cannot fire a smaller gun more accurately than a bigger one.
Part of it is physics--like a short grip means that you have less leverage when the muzzle goes high so your recovery to back on sights is slower. Light weight does something similar.
Another issue can be a short sightline. You have a shorter sightline with a 3 inch barrel than a 5 inch pistola and yes, you have red dots, etc. nowadays that use a single sight plane but that introduces new problems in concealibility, relying on an electronic device that could fail, and so on.
I am a big burly guy that is a passable shooter of firearms before becoming riddled with arthritis but while I could shoot a steel framed snubbie quite well, I could shoot my GP-100 4 inch barrel better and faster on targets even shooting lighter 357 Magnum rounds.
Small and light has its place generally where you need a backup firearm or a well concealed one.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:25 PM (ctrM5)
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I'm of the school that EDC should be light and small. You won't need more than a few rounds in most scenarios.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 08:25 PM (1MVbl)
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139 What's the compression like?
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F)
Feels good but gotta get the gauge on there to see what the numbers are. BTW when I had the plugs out to check spark I could see valves moving in the head so they aren't stuck.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (QfvaV)
I know you said you made sure the timing was right, but maybe double or triple check that. Although I'd expect it to pop or cough if that was the only problem.
Anybody seen AOP? This should be right up his alley.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:15 PM (vFG9F)
Feels good but gotta get the gauge on there to see what the numbers are. BTW when I had the plugs out to check spark I could see valves moving in the head so they aren't stuck.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (QfvaV)
I know you said you made sure the timing was right, but maybe double or triple check that. Although I'd expect it to pop or cough if that was the only problem.
Anybody seen AOP? This should be right up his alley.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 08:25 PM (Yt3ED)
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Oddly enough, I have a shop manual for the TJD. First Wisconsin I ever rebuilt.
I'll give it to you. I own none now.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM (cPGH3)
I have a full PDF whether it has everything you have is a different question.
I'll give it to you. I own none now.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM (cPGH3)
I have a full PDF whether it has everything you have is a different question.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:26 PM (QfvaV)
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Thanks Whig, RMBS, and EdL, I can now add this to my vocabulary!
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (IQ6Gq)
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148 Pillage Idiot, big hug, darlin.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 20, 2025 08:22 PM
Thanks. Big hug back to you too!
We had 17 people for Easter lunch and I felt really good about that. But now I just feel so bad for NaCly being at the hospital all week, and then getting this result on Easter.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 20, 2025 08:22 PM
Thanks. Big hug back to you too!
We had 17 people for Easter lunch and I felt really good about that. But now I just feel so bad for NaCly being at the hospital all week, and then getting this result on Easter.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (HlyYF)
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What AOP said about the magneto. Also, make sure it's actually sparking at TDC.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (vFG9F)
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Anybody seen AOP? This should be right up his alley.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 08:25 PM (Yt3ED)
He is here as if summoned!
Anybody seen AOP? This should be right up his alley.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 08:25 PM (Yt3ED)
He is here as if summoned!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (QfvaV)
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Howdy Weasel, and Happy Easter!
Posted by: Doof at April 20, 2025 08:28 PM (RFPHU)
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Personally, I would rather have a small EDC piece that I was more likely to have on me 100% of the time, than a larger caliber/heavier gun that I might leave home due to carrying discomfort, chance of exposing, etc.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM
I want the smallest, lightest EDC that I have confidence in (accuracy and reliability) in the most effective caliber possible.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM
I want the smallest, lightest EDC that I have confidence in (accuracy and reliability) in the most effective caliber possible.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:28 PM (0sNs1)
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Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:22 PM (0sNs1)
OK, I'll start taking pictures of my targets this week.
OK, I'll start taking pictures of my targets this week.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:29 PM (AiJK3)
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Masada Slim Elite is a nice CCW, too bad they are hard to find. I got lucky at the LGS.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 20, 2025 08:29 PM (b4o9z)
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"cog mark in peep hole when flywheel at TDC"
Pull the spark plug and confirm it's actually at TDC.
Pull the spark plug and confirm it's actually at TDC.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:29 PM (vFG9F)
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159 What AOP said about the magneto. Also, make sure it's actually sparking at TDC.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (vFG9F)
Yup. Double and triple-checked. The manual has a proocedure for timing and followed to the letter, and it's a hand crank so I know where the crankshaft is in relation to the snap from the mag. It fires at TDC (actually a little retard to it on start)
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (vFG9F)
Yup. Double and triple-checked. The manual has a proocedure for timing and followed to the letter, and it's a hand crank so I know where the crankshaft is in relation to the snap from the mag. It fires at TDC (actually a little retard to it on start)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:29 PM (QfvaV)
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I want the smallest, lightest EDC that I have confidence in (accuracy and reliability) in the most effective caliber possible.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:28 PM (0sNs1)
This. The P365 XL fulfills this role for me.
I want the smallest, lightest EDC that I have confidence in (accuracy and reliability) in the most effective caliber possible.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:28 PM (0sNs1)
This. The P365 XL fulfills this role for me.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:30 PM (QfvaV)
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This, and the cost of practicing with defense ammo. At $1 a round for the Federal 147 grain HST I used, it gets expensive quick.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:24 PM
For the wife and daughters, I have found target ammo with the same bullet weight and muzzle velocity as their expensive self-defense rounds.
We are working on lots of practice with the really cheap ammo, a little practice with the affordable ammo that matches their self-defense ammo, and then they rarely shoot the expensive stuff to check their aim, felt recoil, etc.
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:24 PM
For the wife and daughters, I have found target ammo with the same bullet weight and muzzle velocity as their expensive self-defense rounds.
We are working on lots of practice with the really cheap ammo, a little practice with the affordable ammo that matches their self-defense ammo, and then they rarely shoot the expensive stuff to check their aim, felt recoil, etc.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:31 PM (HlyYF)
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Personally, I would rather have a small EDC piece that I was more likely to have on me 100% of the time, than a larger caliber/heavier gun that I might leave home due to carrying discomfort, chance of exposing, etc.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Go to a range, rent a small gun and a bigger one of the same mfg and style. Shoot them at speed doing something like the Bill Drill. Ceterus paribus, you will shoot the bigger gun faster and better.
Recoil makes a difference on followup shots and all handgun rounds are poor stoppers in the first place. Shorter barrels decrease the velocity needed to expand hollow points further.
Same thing goes for long arms. Try shooting your 12 gage with buckshot at multiple targets. Now repeat that using slugs. You will definitely shoot quicker and probably more accurately with the buckshot load. Very different than single shot or even two or so. Firing at humans that are moving and dodging uses more shots than most people think.
As I said, there is a reason for small and light firearms but being easy to shoot rapidly and accurately in a combat scenario is not necessarily one of them.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Go to a range, rent a small gun and a bigger one of the same mfg and style. Shoot them at speed doing something like the Bill Drill. Ceterus paribus, you will shoot the bigger gun faster and better.
Recoil makes a difference on followup shots and all handgun rounds are poor stoppers in the first place. Shorter barrels decrease the velocity needed to expand hollow points further.
Same thing goes for long arms. Try shooting your 12 gage with buckshot at multiple targets. Now repeat that using slugs. You will definitely shoot quicker and probably more accurately with the buckshot load. Very different than single shot or even two or so. Firing at humans that are moving and dodging uses more shots than most people think.
As I said, there is a reason for small and light firearms but being easy to shoot rapidly and accurately in a combat scenario is not necessarily one of them.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:31 PM (ctrM5)
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That thing should fire if it's got compression and sparks at the right time.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:32 PM (vFG9F)
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P365 XL shoot a lot better than the P365, that extra 0.5" on the barrel and longer grip go a long way.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 20, 2025 08:32 PM (b4o9z)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:32 PM (QfvaV)
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Blaster, check this out. TJD and THD engines look similar, but one has both pistons rising and falling together, and the other has one go up as the other goes down. Magnetos will interchange physically, but won't work, because different firing sequence. Maybe that "wrong" magneto is the "right" magneto for the other model engine?
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:33 PM (8zz6B)
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97 Catch, the outcome of traffic stops are inherently random and at times entirely arbitrary. Just be thankful you emerged unscathed.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 07:54 PM (1MVbl)
I know all too well. In Anchorage I got pulled over by a yelling, screaming asshole who said I did 38 in a 35 (???) and issued me a ticket because my window tint was to dark. And he was yelling and screaming at one point because how DARE TXDoT issue auto registration stickers that go on the windshield, not on the license plate.
(I once mentioned this at voir dire when a lawyer asked if anyone was unfairly treated by the cops at a traffic stop. Even the judge was freaked out.)
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 07:54 PM (1MVbl)
I know all too well. In Anchorage I got pulled over by a yelling, screaming asshole who said I did 38 in a 35 (???) and issued me a ticket because my window tint was to dark. And he was yelling and screaming at one point because how DARE TXDoT issue auto registration stickers that go on the windshield, not on the license plate.
(I once mentioned this at voir dire when a lawyer asked if anyone was unfairly treated by the cops at a traffic stop. Even the judge was freaked out.)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at April 20, 2025 08:33 PM (vm8sq)
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Personally, I would rather have a small EDC piece that I was more likely to have on me 100% of the time, than a larger caliber/heavier gun that I might leave home due to carrying discomfort, chance of exposing, etc.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (HlyYF)
Hey, PI! I am not an actual expert, but I swear by my small Ruger LCP, because I have no excuse for not carrying it everywhere.
And Whig is right. I can shoot that thing very well, but it ain’t comfortable.
And as far as recoil, any serious shot I have made (hunting, competition, etc.), I don’t even remember the recoil.
Any thoughts from the actual experts?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:17 PM (HlyYF)
Hey, PI! I am not an actual expert, but I swear by my small Ruger LCP, because I have no excuse for not carrying it everywhere.
And Whig is right. I can shoot that thing very well, but it ain’t comfortable.
And as far as recoil, any serious shot I have made (hunting, competition, etc.), I don’t even remember the recoil.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 08:34 PM (X0fmk)
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When stopped by law enforcement, the following phrases will ensure the encounter will go smoothly.
"I'm a sovereign citizen!"
"Do you know who I am?"
"I'm gonna have your badge for this."
"Guess you got to make your quota."
"Make me."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM
"You have no jurisdiction!"
"What's your RAS?!"
"Name and badge number!"
"I'm traveling!"
"I'm a sovereign citizen!"
"Do you know who I am?"
"I'm gonna have your badge for this."
"Guess you got to make your quota."
"Make me."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM
"You have no jurisdiction!"
"What's your RAS?!"
"Name and badge number!"
"I'm traveling!"
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2025 08:35 PM (Wnv9h)
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170 That thing should fire if it's got compression and sparks at the right time.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:32 PM (vFG9F)
Well, yes.
That is what has me puzzled. With spark and starting fluid it should at least cough for me. It does not.
I have to see what the compression really is. I watch videos of people cranking these and it takes a quarter turn of the hand crank.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:32 PM (vFG9F)
Well, yes.
That is what has me puzzled. With spark and starting fluid it should at least cough for me. It does not.
I have to see what the compression really is. I watch videos of people cranking these and it takes a quarter turn of the hand crank.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:35 PM (QfvaV)
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166 159 What AOP said about the magneto. Also, make sure it's actually sparking at TDC.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (vFG9F)
Yup. Double and triple-checked. The manual has a proocedure for timing and followed to the letter, and it's a hand crank so I know where the crankshaft is in relation to the snap from the mag. It fires at TDC (actually a little retard to it on start)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:29 PM (QfvaV)
Could the camshaft have been installed 180 off, so that it sparks with the piston in the right place, but the valves not closed? Still, I would expect a pop or cough when trying to start.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:27 PM (vFG9F)
Yup. Double and triple-checked. The manual has a proocedure for timing and followed to the letter, and it's a hand crank so I know where the crankshaft is in relation to the snap from the mag. It fires at TDC (actually a little retard to it on start)
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:29 PM (QfvaV)
Could the camshaft have been installed 180 off, so that it sparks with the piston in the right place, but the valves not closed? Still, I would expect a pop or cough when trying to start.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 08:35 PM (Yt3ED)
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Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
Spark and fuel. You have spark. You did pour out the old fuel, change the filter, and clean the carb, right?
Spark and fuel. You have spark. You did pour out the old fuel, change the filter, and clean the carb, right?
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:36 PM (cPGH3)
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With a can of starting spray you don't even need a carb to get it to fire.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:38 PM (vFG9F)
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RI Red,
Is your LCP in 380? And that is not comfortable for you to shoot?
I have one daughter that weighs 102#. I was looking at a small 380 for her. (Right now she trains with a 22 revolver with a 6" barrel and loves that thing.)
Do you think I need to go smaller than 380 for her?
Is your LCP in 380? And that is not comfortable for you to shoot?
I have one daughter that weighs 102#. I was looking at a small 380 for her. (Right now she trains with a 22 revolver with a 6" barrel and loves that thing.)
Do you think I need to go smaller than 380 for her?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:39 PM (HlyYF)
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:33 PM (8zz6B)
I think the tag says TJD on it but some of it is worn and now I am questioning because you questioned it.
TJD is correct engine for this equipment but maybe someone replaced it in the past. I will check again.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:33 PM (8zz6B)
I think the tag says TJD on it but some of it is worn and now I am questioning because you questioned it.
TJD is correct engine for this equipment but maybe someone replaced it in the past. I will check again.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:39 PM (QfvaV)
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One personal favorite trick for starting a long-dormant engine is remove spark plugs, and give each cylinder eight squirts of oil (scientifically guesstimated amount) from a pump oil can. Oil will help seal dry pistons rings, and can help seal valves with light powder rust on the seats or heads. Did this just last week on a Studebaker Champion. Resulting blue fog killed many mosquitoes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:40 PM (8zz6B)
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:41 PM (cPGH3)
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"TJD is correct engine for this equipment but maybe someone replaced it in the past. I will check again.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat'
You must fix that engine. It would drive me nuts to not know why it won't run.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat'
You must fix that engine. It would drive me nuts to not know why it won't run.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:41 PM (vFG9F)
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Spark and fuel. You have spark. You did pour out the old fuel, change the filter, and clean the carb, right?
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:36 PM (cPGH3)
Tank was empty. I rebuilt the carb someone had rtv'ed the crap out of it wround the edges. The fuel pump works and now that I have rebuilt it I can turn the crank until gas runs out of the carb.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:36 PM (cPGH3)
Tank was empty. I rebuilt the carb someone had rtv'ed the crap out of it wround the edges. The fuel pump works and now that I have rebuilt it I can turn the crank until gas runs out of the carb.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:41 PM (QfvaV)
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I want the smallest, lightest EDC that I have confidence in (accuracy and reliability) in the most effective caliber possible.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
At one time, I carried a steel framed snubbie with +p that weighed about 22.5 oz. Due to the increase in goblins and arthritis for the last ten years, I no longer had confidence in using speedloaders fast enough to stay in a fight so moved to a 28 oz XDS in 9mm. Recoil is less than the snubbie and I carry 9+1 on board or 8+1 with an extra mag. About the same concealibility.
But, an older and heavier P6 aka P225, has about the same barrel length and add about 6 more ounces to weight. And it is easier to shoot than the XDS. Less concealable and magazines are unobtainable (no Pro Mags period).
Last, is my house gun, it is a Smith and Wesson 3rd Generation 5946 with night sights. It weighs about 40 oz with a full steel frame. Firing 9mm, even the +p feels like shooting wadcutters. Not the most concealable but not needed for home defense. About as accurate as any other police service weapon, I've fired in semi auto.
A 1911 in 9mm would be close to the same weight in steel and have likewise minuscule recoil from weight.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
At one time, I carried a steel framed snubbie with +p that weighed about 22.5 oz. Due to the increase in goblins and arthritis for the last ten years, I no longer had confidence in using speedloaders fast enough to stay in a fight so moved to a 28 oz XDS in 9mm. Recoil is less than the snubbie and I carry 9+1 on board or 8+1 with an extra mag. About the same concealibility.
But, an older and heavier P6 aka P225, has about the same barrel length and add about 6 more ounces to weight. And it is easier to shoot than the XDS. Less concealable and magazines are unobtainable (no Pro Mags period).
Last, is my house gun, it is a Smith and Wesson 3rd Generation 5946 with night sights. It weighs about 40 oz with a full steel frame. Firing 9mm, even the +p feels like shooting wadcutters. Not the most concealable but not needed for home defense. About as accurate as any other police service weapon, I've fired in semi auto.
A 1911 in 9mm would be close to the same weight in steel and have likewise minuscule recoil from weight.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:42 PM (ctrM5)
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One other question... does your intake have a plug, right on top?
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:41 PM (cPGH3)
A steel plug in the intake manifold? Yes there is one above the carburetor.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:41 PM (cPGH3)
A steel plug in the intake manifold? Yes there is one above the carburetor.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:42 PM (QfvaV)
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I think the tag says TJD on it but some of it is worn and now I am questioning because you questioned it.
TJD is correct engine for this equipment but maybe someone replaced it in the past. I will check again.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:39 PM (QfvaV)
But is the tag attached to the block, or to the fan shroud? Or somebody could have put a THD crank and camshaft into a TJD block. It's 80 year old farm equipment, and farmers can be frugal.
TJD is correct engine for this equipment but maybe someone replaced it in the past. I will check again.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:39 PM (QfvaV)
But is the tag attached to the block, or to the fan shroud? Or somebody could have put a THD crank and camshaft into a TJD block. It's 80 year old farm equipment, and farmers can be frugal.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2025 08:43 PM (8zz6B)
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You must fix that engine. It would drive me nuts to not know why it won't run.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:41 PM (vFG9F)
Me too! I want to get the equipment into service sooner rather than later though, so it is gettting repowered.
At a minimum I know I can sell a running TJD for a decent price.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 08:41 PM (vFG9F)
Me too! I want to get the equipment into service sooner rather than later though, so it is gettting repowered.
At a minimum I know I can sell a running TJD for a decent price.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:44 PM (QfvaV)
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:44 PM (cPGH3)
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I think AOP has has clue though.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:45 PM (cPGH3)
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Very long weekend. Finishing another couple of pieces of brisket, maybe some more kugel, then back to sleep again.
Hi y'all. Thanks, Weasel.
Hi y'all. Thanks, Weasel.
Posted by: GWB at April 20, 2025 08:45 PM (pql7I)
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WD-40 will fix any engine problems.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 08:46 PM (1MVbl)
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[i176 When stopped by law enforcement, the following phrases will ensure the encounter will go smoothly.
"I'm a sovereign citizen!"
"Do you know who I am?"
"I'm gonna have your badge for this."
"Guess you got to make your quota."
"Make me."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM
"You have no jurisdiction!"
"What's your RAS?!"
"Name and badge number!"
"I'm traveling!"
"Heh. I don't remember ordering a male stripper!"
"I'm a sovereign citizen!"
"Do you know who I am?"
"I'm gonna have your badge for this."
"Guess you got to make your quota."
"Make me."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 20, 2025 08:21 PM
"You have no jurisdiction!"
"What's your RAS?!"
"Name and badge number!"
"I'm traveling!"
"Heh. I don't remember ordering a male stripper!"
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 20, 2025 08:48 PM (CHHv1)
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157 Thanks Whig, RMBS, and EdL, I can now add this to my vocabulary!
Posted by: Grateful
You can do this at home when dry firing. A book shelf full of paperback or hardback books can work. Some people buy old police bullet resistant vests (they deteriorate over time) for clearing at home by point the firearm at the old vest. You can now buy panels for backpacks, etc. that are bullet resistant as well to do safe clearing at home.
Don't use metal plates or hard surfaces to clear with as if it fires, then often bullets will fragment or richochet in unpleasant ways. Even good ole Mother Earth, if you point downwards into soft dirt can serve to safely clear a weapon if a bit awkward.
Posted by: Grateful
You can do this at home when dry firing. A book shelf full of paperback or hardback books can work. Some people buy old police bullet resistant vests (they deteriorate over time) for clearing at home by point the firearm at the old vest. You can now buy panels for backpacks, etc. that are bullet resistant as well to do safe clearing at home.
Don't use metal plates or hard surfaces to clear with as if it fires, then often bullets will fragment or richochet in unpleasant ways. Even good ole Mother Earth, if you point downwards into soft dirt can serve to safely clear a weapon if a bit awkward.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:49 PM (ctrM5)
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My Ruger LCP Custom (a short-lived model introduced after the original LCP, with *much* better (and actually usable) sights) is too small for me to shoot well. A Hogue overgrip makes it shootable. It's DA only, so I have to remember to 'roll' the trigger to get a decent grouping.
Personally, I wouldn't want .22 LR in a defensive handgun unless that's all that was available. I consider .380 ACP the minimum. You might want to look at a Glock 42 instead of a LCP, it's much more shootable.
.380 ACP is approximately 60% of a 9mm, and if you're going to fool with a G42, a P365 isn't that much bigger, but has 9mm with higher capacity.
It all depends on which variables you need/want to optimize for, and, as always, TANSTAAFL.
Personally, I wouldn't want .22 LR in a defensive handgun unless that's all that was available. I consider .380 ACP the minimum. You might want to look at a Glock 42 instead of a LCP, it's much more shootable.
.380 ACP is approximately 60% of a 9mm, and if you're going to fool with a G42, a P365 isn't that much bigger, but has 9mm with higher capacity.
It all depends on which variables you need/want to optimize for, and, as always, TANSTAAFL.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:49 PM (0sNs1)
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Weasel, gotta run. Early morning wakeup for me tomorrow. Thanks for hosting!
Posted by: Ed L at April 20, 2025 08:50 PM (AiJK3)
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You are a very wise man. I appreciate your experience, and your sharing it.
You are a very wise man. I appreciate your experience, and your sharing it.
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 08:53 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Even good ole Mother Earth, if you point downwards into soft dirt can serve to safely clear a weapon if a bit awkward.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:49 PM (ctrM5)
Yes, this is the best way if you are unsure. Just keep your feet out of the line of fire.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:49 PM (ctrM5)
Yes, this is the best way if you are unsure. Just keep your feet out of the line of fire.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 08:53 PM (1MVbl)
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Food Thread is at 209, so we shouldn't have to break a sweat to keep Weasel's beauty sleep from being disturbed by an overwrought Ewok this week.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:54 PM (0sNs1)
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You are a very wise man. I appreciate your experience, and your sharing it.
Posted by: Grateful
Eh, like most of humanity, wise at times, foolish at others. I try though to keep the foolish in me at bay though when dealing with dangerous tools like firearms, power equipment, etc. Try to save foolishness for making faces at babies to make them laugh, talking to my doggies, etc.
You are a very wise man. I appreciate your experience, and your sharing it.
Posted by: Grateful
Eh, like most of humanity, wise at times, foolish at others. I try though to keep the foolish in me at bay though when dealing with dangerous tools like firearms, power equipment, etc. Try to save foolishness for making faces at babies to make them laugh, talking to my doggies, etc.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:55 PM (ctrM5)
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BTW, Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat, that is the manual I have.
Everyone small engine mechanic will tell you, if you have good spark and fuel, and if you don't run, you have either bad fuel (old) or a dirty carb,.
90% of small engine mechanics change the oil, change the plug, dump old fuel and start the engine.
Everyone small engine mechanic will tell you, if you have good spark and fuel, and if you don't run, you have either bad fuel (old) or a dirty carb,.
90% of small engine mechanics change the oil, change the plug, dump old fuel and start the engine.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:56 PM (cPGH3)
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198 Weasel, gotta run. Early morning wakeup for me tomorrow. Thanks for hosting!
Posted by: Ed L
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Good luck with your new H&K.
Posted by: Ed L
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Good luck with your new H&K.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 08:56 PM (ctrM5)
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Okay you had me questioning myself so I went out to check - the engine data plated is clearly stamped TJD. It is affixed to the shroud and not the block, but the paint and patina of the whole engine, shroud and all are consistent, and consistent with the flail mower it was mounted on. I pulled it off and I think it has never been removed. I do not think it is likely that this is a swapped in TF.
Also it is possible that there are stuck valves - from the spark plug hole I can see one valve on each cylinder actuating - I can't see the other. I will see what the compresion gauge says. @AOP is there someone in our mutual orbits with your IRL email?
Also it is possible that there are stuck valves - from the spark plug hole I can see one valve on each cylinder actuating - I can't see the other. I will see what the compresion gauge says. @AOP is there someone in our mutual orbits with your IRL email?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 08:56 PM (QfvaV)
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Everyone small engine mechanic will tell you, if you have good spark and fuel, and if you don't run, you have either bad fuel (old) or a dirty carb,.
90% of small engine mechanics change the oil, change the plug, dump old fuel and start the engine.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:56 PM (cPGH3)
Oh I know. This engine should fire. I can see the fuel flow through the filter bowl (it has the original glass bowl) and I can see the sparks. Why it doesn't at least create some smoke is puzzling. I was feeling pretty optimistic about it after I got the right mag on it, and again when I got the carb rebuilt.
And still nothing.
90% of small engine mechanics change the oil, change the plug, dump old fuel and start the engine.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 08:56 PM (cPGH3)
Oh I know. This engine should fire. I can see the fuel flow through the filter bowl (it has the original glass bowl) and I can see the sparks. Why it doesn't at least create some smoke is puzzling. I was feeling pretty optimistic about it after I got the right mag on it, and again when I got the carb rebuilt.
And still nothing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:00 PM (QfvaV)
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Personally, I wouldn't want .22 LR in a defensive handgun unless that's all that was available. I consider .380 ACP the minimum. You might want to look at a Glock 42 instead of a LCP, it's much more shootable.
.380 ACP is approximately 60% of a 9mm, and if you're going to fool with a G42, a P365 isn't that much bigger, but has 9mm with higher capacity.
It all depends on which variables you need/want to optimize for, and, as always, TANSTAAFL.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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All of what you say are good points. I've carried a 380 long ago (original pre 68 Walther PPK) but never felt secure with it as I did with the later P6 or 38 Special snubbie with +p.
But premium self defense ammo in 380 is a lot better than it was in 90's plus the PPK was picky about hollow points back then.
I would though go to Lucky Gunner Labs to determine what they said about 380 best self defense loads.
.380 ACP is approximately 60% of a 9mm, and if you're going to fool with a G42, a P365 isn't that much bigger, but has 9mm with higher capacity.
It all depends on which variables you need/want to optimize for, and, as always, TANSTAAFL.
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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All of what you say are good points. I've carried a 380 long ago (original pre 68 Walther PPK) but never felt secure with it as I did with the later P6 or 38 Special snubbie with +p.
But premium self defense ammo in 380 is a lot better than it was in 90's plus the PPK was picky about hollow points back then.
I would though go to Lucky Gunner Labs to determine what they said about 380 best self defense loads.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:00 PM (ctrM5)
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Used to be a decent cop on YouTube who had a funny video on how NOT to tell the cop pulling you over that you're armed. One involved throwing the gun out the window and putting your hands up (out the window). It would make a good video for the Horde. But I can't remember the guy's name, and searches for it just give me all the "bad interactions with cops" videos. 
Posted by: GWB at April 20, 2025 09:01 PM (+M+Yn)
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Daughter definitely not looking at .22 caliber for her EDC, that is just her current range weapon.
She does not like to shoot my S&W M&P 9mm with even regular loads, but that is still only a 21 oz pistol, so it is pretty light (and snappy).
She is a very new shooter, so perhaps I can eventually work her comfortably up to 9mm. However, I still think that shooting 380 with expensive defensive ammo is probably going to be her best match.
She does not like to shoot my S&W M&P 9mm with even regular loads, but that is still only a 21 oz pistol, so it is pretty light (and snappy).
She is a very new shooter, so perhaps I can eventually work her comfortably up to 9mm. However, I still think that shooting 380 with expensive defensive ammo is probably going to be her best match.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 09:02 PM (HlyYF)
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@aop a little birdie (with tiny little arms) is in our shared orbit and has shared with me your email address.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:02 PM (QfvaV)
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201 Food Thread is at 209, so we shouldn't have to break a sweat to keep Weasel's beauty sleep from being disturbed by an overwrought Ewok this week.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:54 PM
Does Ace consider running an engine repair sub-thread to be cheating?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 08:54 PM
Does Ace consider running an engine repair sub-thread to be cheating?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 09:03 PM (HlyYF)
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RI Red,
Is your LCP in 380? And that is not comfortable for you to shoot?
I have one daughter that weighs 102#. I was looking at a small 380 for her. (Right now she trains with a 22 revolver with a 6" barrel and loves that thing.)
Do you think I need to go smaller than 380 for her?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:39 PM (HlyYF)
PI, I put some Hogue grips on it that made it much better. I also put pearl white fingernail polish on the sights, although the newer sights are much better.
I look at as a challenge to shoot. .380 is better than .22. Although I’m not averse to carrying .22. 10 rounds accurately placed should be effective.
But carry “all of the time” is the key. Get everyone used to it.
I wish Mrs. R would listen to me.
Is your LCP in 380? And that is not comfortable for you to shoot?
I have one daughter that weighs 102#. I was looking at a small 380 for her. (Right now she trains with a 22 revolver with a 6" barrel and loves that thing.)
Do you think I need to go smaller than 380 for her?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 08:39 PM (HlyYF)
PI, I put some Hogue grips on it that made it much better. I also put pearl white fingernail polish on the sights, although the newer sights are much better.
I look at as a challenge to shoot. .380 is better than .22. Although I’m not averse to carrying .22. 10 rounds accurately placed should be effective.
But carry “all of the time” is the key. Get everyone used to it.
I wish Mrs. R would listen to me.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM (X0fmk)
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I believe someone once made a gunpowder fueled engine.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM (vFG9F)
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Does Ace consider running an engine repair sub-thread to be cheating?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 09:03 PM (HlyYF)
Ace has no clue about the weekend threads.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 09:03 PM (HlyYF)
Ace has no clue about the weekend threads.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 09:08 PM (1MVbl)
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I believe someone once made a gunpowder fueled engine.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM
And how long did it take for it to become an external combustion engine?
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM
And how long did it take for it to become an external combustion engine?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2025 09:08 PM (Wnv9h)
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She is a very new shooter, so perhaps I can eventually work her comfortably up to 9mm. However, I still think that shooting 380 with expensive defensive ammo is probably going to be her best match.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Glock's 380 ACP Model 42 pistol might be an excellent choice. Smith and Wesson Bodyguard II in 380 ACP is supposedly rated pretty good.
A good local range that rents guns might have one or the other as a rental (probably the Glock because that has been a popular seller for them).
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Glock's 380 ACP Model 42 pistol might be an excellent choice. Smith and Wesson Bodyguard II in 380 ACP is supposedly rated pretty good.
A good local range that rents guns might have one or the other as a rental (probably the Glock because that has been a popular seller for them).
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:08 PM (ctrM5)
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But carry “all of the time” is the key. Get everyone used to it.
I wish Mrs. R would listen to me.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM (X0fmk)
I work in a Federal building where even the parking lot is a gun free zone. As a result, I cannot carry MOST of the time - and so every once in a while I go out on the weekend or whatever and find myself, well, not carrying. It is a habit.
I wish Mrs. R would listen to me.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM (X0fmk)
I work in a Federal building where even the parking lot is a gun free zone. As a result, I cannot carry MOST of the time - and so every once in a while I go out on the weekend or whatever and find myself, well, not carrying. It is a habit.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:08 PM (QfvaV)
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And still nothing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
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Have you (judiciously!) tried starter fluid?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
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Have you (judiciously!) tried starter fluid?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)
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Have you (judiciously!) tried starter fluid?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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If there is properly timed spark and, compression, that should cause at least a brief start.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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If there is properly timed spark and, compression, that should cause at least a brief start.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:10 PM (XeU6L)
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Ace has no clue about the weekend threads.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 09:08 PM (1MVbl)
Except for the gunthread v food thread post count, which I suppose he had pixy automate.
But better hope he doesn't get DOGE in to analyze it with AI.
Ace has no clue about the weekend threads.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 09:08 PM (1MVbl)
Except for the gunthread v food thread post count, which I suppose he had pixy automate.
But better hope he doesn't get DOGE in to analyze it with AI.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:11 PM (QfvaV)
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213 I believe someone once made a gunpowder fueled engine.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM (vFG9F)
How about a gasoline (or diesel) powered gun? I remember a decade or two ago the Army was working on developing an artillery piece that used liquid propellant, I don't think that ever went anywhere.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:05 PM (vFG9F)
How about a gasoline (or diesel) powered gun? I remember a decade or two ago the Army was working on developing an artillery piece that used liquid propellant, I don't think that ever went anywhere.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:11 PM (Yt3ED)
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Huh. From wiki:
"Thomas Paine introduced an entirely new type of engine design, one that bore more resemblance to a water wheel than a conventional engine. In Paine's engine, a series of cup-like combustion chambers were arranged around a wheel. As the wheel turned, each cup received a small amount of gunpowder from a central container and was then lit."
"Thomas Paine introduced an entirely new type of engine design, one that bore more resemblance to a water wheel than a conventional engine. In Paine's engine, a series of cup-like combustion chambers were arranged around a wheel. As the wheel turned, each cup received a small amount of gunpowder from a central container and was then lit."
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:11 PM (vFG9F)
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If there is properly timed spark and, compression, that should cause at least a brief start.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:10 PM (XeU6L)
Agreed! It should!
And yet it doesn't.
If there is properly timed spark and, compression, that should cause at least a brief start.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:10 PM (XeU6L)
Agreed! It should!
And yet it doesn't.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:12 PM (QfvaV)
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Have you (judiciously!) tried starter fluid?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)
That would be too obvious.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)
That would be too obvious.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 09:12 PM (1MVbl)
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Blaster,
Meant to ask you how your Southern acreage project is going? You had a progress report awhile back but must have missed any additional news.
Meant to ask you how your Southern acreage project is going? You had a progress report awhile back but must have missed any additional news.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:13 PM (ctrM5)
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218 And still nothing.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
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Have you (judiciously!) tried starter fluid?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)
"judiciously" ? This is AOS. Ain't nothin' done judiciously around here! Besides, eyebrows grow back.
"If a little is good, more is better and too much is just right".
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat
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Have you (judiciously!) tried starter fluid?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:09 PM (XeU6L)
"judiciously" ? This is AOS. Ain't nothin' done judiciously around here! Besides, eyebrows grow back.
"If a little is good, more is better and too much is just right".
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:14 PM (Yt3ED)
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And yet it doesn't.
Posted by: blaster
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Have you tried shaking your fist at it, and calling it bad names? Won't help, but you'll feel better.
Posted by: blaster
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Have you tried shaking your fist at it, and calling it bad names? Won't help, but you'll feel better.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:15 PM (XeU6L)
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I wish Mrs. R would listen to me.
Posted by: RI Red
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Husbands are usually the worst to tell wives something and vice versa. Wife went through firearm training with someone else, not me. And the same with me.
Posted by: RI Red
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Husbands are usually the worst to tell wives something and vice versa. Wife went through firearm training with someone else, not me. And the same with me.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:15 PM (ctrM5)
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Also - as an EOD guy - when it comes to explosives, I have been drilled with the formula P + M = E.
So the puddle of starting fluid forming in the intake was probably a little injudicious.
But maybe this gunpowder idea....
So the puddle of starting fluid forming in the intake was probably a little injudicious.
But maybe this gunpowder idea....
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:16 PM (QfvaV)
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Have you tried shaking your fist at it, and calling it bad names? Won't help, but you'll feel better.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:15 PM (XeU6L)
Vigorously!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:15 PM (XeU6L)
Vigorously!
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:17 PM (QfvaV)
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"If a little is good, more is better and too much is just right".
Posted by: BillyD
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When I was younger, that was my theory about beer. If one six pack is good, two has to be even better.
Posted by: BillyD
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When I was younger, that was my theory about beer. If one six pack is good, two has to be even better.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:17 PM (XeU6L)
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Husbands are usually the worst to tell wives something and vice versa. Wife went through firearm training with someone else, not me. And the same with me.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:15 PM (ctrM5)
Whig, absolutely right. For a while she was training and shooting with other female types; now, she assumes that I will always be there.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:15 PM (ctrM5)
Whig, absolutely right. For a while she was training and shooting with other female types; now, she assumes that I will always be there.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 09:19 PM (X0fmk)
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But premium self defense ammo in 380 is a lot better than it was in 90's plus the PPK was picky about hollow points back then.
I would though go to Lucky Gunner Labs to determine what they said about 380 best self defense loads.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:00 PM
.380 is still marginal IMO, from what I've looked at (admittedly a year or so ago). I alternate HP and FMJ in .380 for defensive carry, since HP expansion isn't guaranteed.
I'm pretty intrigued by Springfield's Eschalon 4.0C, and they're offering extra mags, a rug, and a Crimson Trace RD through the end of the month (valid with Hellcat, Hellcat Pro, and Eschalon).
I would though go to Lucky Gunner Labs to determine what they said about 380 best self defense loads.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:00 PM
.380 is still marginal IMO, from what I've looked at (admittedly a year or so ago). I alternate HP and FMJ in .380 for defensive carry, since HP expansion isn't guaranteed.
I'm pretty intrigued by Springfield's Eschalon 4.0C, and they're offering extra mags, a rug, and a Crimson Trace RD through the end of the month (valid with Hellcat, Hellcat Pro, and Eschalon).
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 09:20 PM (0sNs1)
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Loved starting fluid. A good spray of ether would make even the most stubborn lawnmower engine fire up like a jet-fuel-powered drag racer.
Posted by: VROOM! at April 20, 2025 09:21 PM (TbWk/)
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Well, re: the TJD, I'd pull the carb. Disassemble, which means a carb kit... clean it and spray it with air, and reassemble.
I've put together lots of Wisc carbs, but most old ones are dry and dont' seal after disassembly.
You could just spray hell out of it with carb cleaner and air.
I've put together lots of Wisc carbs, but most old ones are dry and dont' seal after disassembly.
You could just spray hell out of it with carb cleaner and air.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 09:21 PM (cPGH3)
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As far as unconventional firearms go, I still have my, and my father's Big Bang cannons. Only a projectile away from being a 'gun'...if you have the carbide on hand...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:21 PM (XeU6L)
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When I was younger, that was my theory about beer. If one six pack is good, two has to be even better.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:17 PM (XeU6L)
Lightweight. In my prime I would run out with a 24 can case.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:17 PM (XeU6L)
Lightweight. In my prime I would run out with a 24 can case.
Posted by: coyne at April 20, 2025 09:22 PM (1MVbl)
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Does Ace consider running an engine repair sub-thread to be cheating?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Oh, I would think not, after all each is a legitimate comment. And not all threads stick to the theme....
Posted by: Pillage Idiot
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Oh, I would think not, after all each is a legitimate comment. And not all threads stick to the theme....
Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at April 20, 2025 09:23 PM (IQ6Gq)
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Oops! Oopsie!
9:23 thank you time!
Thank you!
Sorry, was on the phone for a while with an old friend and lost track of time!
Hope to see all y'all next Sunday!
9:23 thank you time!
Thank you!
Sorry, was on the phone for a while with an old friend and lost track of time!
Hope to see all y'all next Sunday!
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:23 PM (YwyUt)
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Weasel, we don't need it for post count tonight, but FSJ/Gertie sitreps are always welcome!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 09:24 PM (0sNs1)
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Can anyone ID the optics housing the bunny?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:24 PM (XeU6L)
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Whig, absolutely right. For a while she was training and shooting with other female types; now, she assumes that I will always be there.
Posted by: RI Red
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Unfortunately my wife cannot carry where she works (schools) at the very place I want her to be able to. Back when I was teaching, I had similar worries and had meager plans for each occurrence including discussion with students as to what to do.
FWIW people in gun free zones, a fire extinguisher of all things can be effective or wasp/hornet spray, etc. Then there is a plain ole brick or rock used as a 'paperweight' that hides in plain sight.
Personally, had a few nutcases including one that was banned from campus in my classes and my wife has had similar problem students in the past as well. We talk about security on a continuing basis.
Posted by: RI Red
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Unfortunately my wife cannot carry where she works (schools) at the very place I want her to be able to. Back when I was teaching, I had similar worries and had meager plans for each occurrence including discussion with students as to what to do.
FWIW people in gun free zones, a fire extinguisher of all things can be effective or wasp/hornet spray, etc. Then there is a plain ole brick or rock used as a 'paperweight' that hides in plain sight.
Personally, had a few nutcases including one that was banned from campus in my classes and my wife has had similar problem students in the past as well. We talk about security on a continuing basis.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:25 PM (ctrM5)
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Happy Easter Weasel!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:25 PM (XeU6L)
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Can anyone ID the optics housing the bunny?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:24 PM (XeU6L)
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Looks like a Nightforce scope to me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:24 PM (XeU6L)
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Looks like a Nightforce scope to me.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:25 PM (1L5V5)
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If Weasel is motivated to arise at oh-dark-thirty to begin prepping his PowerPoints for Ace, he could just delete the engine comments.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 09:25 PM (0sNs1)
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235 Well, re: the TJD, I'd pull the carb. Disassemble, which means a carb kit... clean it and spray it with air, and reassemble.
I've put together lots of Wisc carbs, but most old ones are dry and dont' seal after disassembly.
You could just spray hell out of it with carb cleaner and air.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 09:21 PM (cPGH3)
Already done. When I pulled it it was bone dry so fuel wasn't getting into the bowl. I opened it up, put in a new needle valve and made sure the floats were good and got a new gasket on it and scraped off all the rtv that was on it.
Fuel flows in the bowl now for sure.
I've put together lots of Wisc carbs, but most old ones are dry and dont' seal after disassembly.
You could just spray hell out of it with carb cleaner and air.
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 09:21 PM (cPGH3)
Already done. When I pulled it it was bone dry so fuel wasn't getting into the bowl. I opened it up, put in a new needle valve and made sure the floats were good and got a new gasket on it and scraped off all the rtv that was on it.
Fuel flows in the bowl now for sure.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:26 PM (QfvaV)
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Weasel, we don't need it for post count tonight, but FSJ/Gertie sitreps are always welcome!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 09:24 PM (0sNs1)
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They're both great and sleeping next to me now. I will try and come up with a little action vid for next week.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 09:24 PM (0sNs1)
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They're both great and sleeping next to me now. I will try and come up with a little action vid for next week.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:27 PM (1L5V5)
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BTW, FWIW, besides the announced Ace and CoB evaluations for each commenter, apparently Ace is also evaluating each CoB, so let's all do our little parts to help keep Weasel stress-free.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 09:28 PM (0sNs1)
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I would really like, some Gun Thread (not tonight), to get some thoughts on red dots. It is completely outside of my experience, so thoughts and reccomendations would be interesting, across the board pistol, shotty, and AR.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:28 PM (XeU6L)
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.380 is still marginal IMO, from what I've looked at (admittedly a year or so ago). I alternate HP and FMJ in .380 for defensive carry, since HP expansion isn't guaranteed.
I'm pretty intrigued by Springfield's Eschalon 4.0C, and they're offering extra mags, a rug, and a Crimson Trace RD through the end of the month (valid with Hellcat, Hellcat Pro, and Eschalon).
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Saw that pop up in my inbox. I'd imagine it would be pretty good. I have had good luck with XD series and have several ones but nothing recent.
Outside carry, as rare as it is for me to go into public nowadays is an owb Springfield XDS nowadays with std. pressure ammo. More concealable than a double stack as very thin in width.
I have a 6946 Smith Third Gen but magazines are expensive enough to stick with my XDS. I haven't practiced with the 6946 other than dryfiring as no range time at all due to med issues in the last several years.
I'm pretty intrigued by Springfield's Eschalon 4.0C, and they're offering extra mags, a rug, and a Crimson Trace RD through the end of the month (valid with Hellcat, Hellcat Pro, and Eschalon).
Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Saw that pop up in my inbox. I'd imagine it would be pretty good. I have had good luck with XD series and have several ones but nothing recent.
Outside carry, as rare as it is for me to go into public nowadays is an owb Springfield XDS nowadays with std. pressure ammo. More concealable than a double stack as very thin in width.
I have a 6946 Smith Third Gen but magazines are expensive enough to stick with my XDS. I haven't practiced with the 6946 other than dryfiring as no range time at all due to med issues in the last several years.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:31 PM (ctrM5)
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I would really like, some Gun Thread (not tonight), to get some thoughts on red dots. It is completely outside of my experience, so thoughts and reccomendations would be interesting, across the board pistol, shotty, and AR.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:28 PM (XeU6L)
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That can be arranged!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:28 PM (XeU6L)
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That can be arranged!
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:31 PM (gzL+K)
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Fuel flows in the bowl now for sure.
Posted by: blaster
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I dunno. If it at least gave a sputter on the starter fluid, then the carb would be very suspect, but the fact that it doesn't suggests ignition problem.
Fuel flows in the bowl now for sure.
Posted by: blaster
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I dunno. If it at least gave a sputter on the starter fluid, then the carb would be very suspect, but the fact that it doesn't suggests ignition problem.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:32 PM (XeU6L)
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I've got a red dot on an AR but don't particularly like it and it's certainly not the first thing I would pick up.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:32 PM (vFG9F)
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They're both great and sleeping next to me now. I will try and come up with a little action vid for next week.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:27 PM
I am looking forward to the video of FSJ at Weasel Acres exhibiting proper technique while shooting a ma-deuce!
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:27 PM
I am looking forward to the video of FSJ at Weasel Acres exhibiting proper technique while shooting a ma-deuce!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at April 20, 2025 09:33 PM (HlyYF)
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249 I would really like, some Gun Thread (not tonight), to get some thoughts on red dots. It is completely outside of my experience, so thoughts and reccomendations would be interesting, across the board pistol, shotty, and AR.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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I think MAE and Blaster have pretty extensive experience with them on pistols. I have used them for years on ARs but not other rifles. Personally, haven't fired shotguns enough to need them in recent years.
On shotties, a bead night sight works ok for me as my shotguns are home self defense only nowadays.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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I think MAE and Blaster have pretty extensive experience with them on pistols. I have used them for years on ARs but not other rifles. Personally, haven't fired shotguns enough to need them in recent years.
On shotties, a bead night sight works ok for me as my shotguns are home self defense only nowadays.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:34 PM (ctrM5)
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That can be arranged!
Posted by: Weasel
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I don't know that it is a topic of general interest, but I am confident that there are posters with specific knowledge/experience that I at least would appreciate.
That can be arranged!
Posted by: Weasel
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I don't know that it is a topic of general interest, but I am confident that there are posters with specific knowledge/experience that I at least would appreciate.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:35 PM (XeU6L)
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I dunno. If it at least gave a sputter on the starter fluid, then the carb would be very suspect, but the fact that it doesn't suggests ignition problem.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
Bingo
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
Bingo
Posted by: MkY at April 20, 2025 09:36 PM (cPGH3)
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249 I would really like, some Gun Thread (not tonight), to get some thoughts on red dots. It is completely outside of my experience, so thoughts and reccomendations would be interesting, across the board pistol, shotty, and AR.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:28 PM (XeU6L)
I used to be "dot all the things!" but now I have settled into a "dot things made for dots" position. As weasel might say, nothing makes up for fundamentals. After a few years of bi-weekly shooting I think that I am as accurate with iron sights as with a dot on handguns, but can acquire the shot more quickly with the dot. On PCCs (and large format pistols) definitely. For an AR depends on how you shoot.
For shotguns they are milling those receivers for dots now so in that case, yes. Whatever you do, don't do what CBD did with his. Speaking of food thread.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:28 PM (XeU6L)
I used to be "dot all the things!" but now I have settled into a "dot things made for dots" position. As weasel might say, nothing makes up for fundamentals. After a few years of bi-weekly shooting I think that I am as accurate with iron sights as with a dot on handguns, but can acquire the shot more quickly with the dot. On PCCs (and large format pistols) definitely. For an AR depends on how you shoot.
For shotguns they are milling those receivers for dots now so in that case, yes. Whatever you do, don't do what CBD did with his. Speaking of food thread.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:36 PM (QfvaV)
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I don't know that it is a topic of general interest, but I am confident that there are posters with specific knowledge/experience that I at least would appreciate.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:35 PM (XeU6L)
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All y'all prepare to discuss red dots next week, unless of course I forget.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:35 PM (XeU6L)
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All y'all prepare to discuss red dots next week, unless of course I forget.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:37 PM (/lEKk)
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253 I've got a red dot on an AR but don't particularly like it and it's certainly not the first thing I would pick up.
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Curious, is it the red dot itself or is it the model you have? Back in the day, I could not pay the freight for Aimpoint or its competitor so I got a Primary Arms for my home defense AR. Worked pretty well for what I paid because I was not going grubbing in the dirt with it.
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Curious, is it the red dot itself or is it the model you have? Back in the day, I could not pay the freight for Aimpoint or its competitor so I got a Primary Arms for my home defense AR. Worked pretty well for what I paid because I was not going grubbing in the dirt with it.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:37 PM (ctrM5)
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All y'all prepare to discuss red dots next week, unless of course I forget.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:37 PM (/lEKk)
See if you can dig up the picture of CBDs shotgun.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:37 PM (/lEKk)
See if you can dig up the picture of CBDs shotgun.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:39 PM (QfvaV)
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I like the Holosun dot/circle sight on a defensive shotgun.
Dot is good for slugs, with a good buckshot load, the pellets will be inside the circle at 28 yards.
Dot is good for slugs, with a good buckshot load, the pellets will be inside the circle at 28 yards.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2025 09:39 PM (0sNs1)
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What are we, chopped liver?
Posted by: Green Dots at April 20, 2025 09:40 PM (0sNs1)
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So, *that's* where that rabbit was!
I had a good steady sight picture, but I just couldn't hit him.
I had a good steady sight picture, but I just couldn't hit him.
Posted by: Bombadil at April 20, 2025 09:40 PM (MX0bI)
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Military (and some cop departments) use a 55 gallon barrel up in the air that is filled with sand usually. When you are removing active ammunition from the rifle at the end of your shift, etc., you then dry fire the weapon after you have removed the magazine and the bullet in the chamber (which not everyone checks). Thus, if you missed the live ammo and proceed to 'dry fire', the gun will go boom safely in the 'clearing barrel' with the bullet safely contained in the sand inside teh clearing barrel.
Posted by: whig
They got the barrel down to not much bigger than a coffee can now.
And at only $100k each*, well worth it.
* No idea how much but they surely cost more than an old drum filled with sand.
Posted by: whig
They got the barrel down to not much bigger than a coffee can now.
And at only $100k each*, well worth it.
* No idea how much but they surely cost more than an old drum filled with sand.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 20, 2025 09:40 PM (/lPRQ)
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I just don’t acquire as quickly with a red dot as with iron sights.
But when I do, I am right on.
IDPA coming up soon.
But when I do, I am right on.
IDPA coming up soon.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 09:42 PM (X0fmk)
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Oh, didja hear they are talking about moving the ATF under the DEA?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:42 PM (QfvaV)
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I sent myself a reminder email on the red dot thing. Come prepared next Sunday! I have to admit that for me personally, I am anti-dot.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:43 PM (/lEKk)
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They got the barrel down to not much bigger than a coffee can now.
And at only $100k each*, well worth it.
* No idea how much but they surely cost more than an old drum filled with sand.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Been out since the 90's. Sounds about right for damnfoolishness in spending for a connected contractor.
Probably buy one used slightly very cheap from the Taliban if one wanted to. I'd imagine that would be one of the last things that would ever be loaded on a plane during a bugout.
And at only $100k each*, well worth it.
* No idea how much but they surely cost more than an old drum filled with sand.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Been out since the 90's. Sounds about right for damnfoolishness in spending for a connected contractor.
Probably buy one used slightly very cheap from the Taliban if one wanted to. I'd imagine that would be one of the last things that would ever be loaded on a plane during a bugout.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:43 PM (ctrM5)
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"Curious, is it the red dot itself or is it the model you have?"
In general, it's easier for me to aquire the target without one. It's not just the one I have. Maybe if I practiced more with one, but I don't really have any desire to. I'm old and the old ways are the best.
In general, it's easier for me to aquire the target without one. It's not just the one I have. Maybe if I practiced more with one, but I don't really have any desire to. I'm old and the old ways are the best.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:44 PM (vFG9F)
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252
Fuel flows in the bowl now for sure.
Posted by: blaster
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I dunno. If it at least gave a sputter on the starter fluid, then the carb would be very suspect, but the fact that it doesn't suggests ignition problem.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:32 PM (XeU6L)
Yeah, to state the obvious, Fuel + Spark + Compression = Noise. Something's missing.
Fuel flows in the bowl now for sure.
Posted by: blaster
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I dunno. If it at least gave a sputter on the starter fluid, then the carb would be very suspect, but the fact that it doesn't suggests ignition problem.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:32 PM (XeU6L)
Yeah, to state the obvious, Fuel + Spark + Compression = Noise. Something's missing.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:44 PM (Yt3ED)
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personally, I am anti-dot.
Posted by: Weasel
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[uh, oh. I may have inadvertantly sparked a crossbow/longbow conversation]
Posted by: Weasel
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[uh, oh. I may have inadvertantly sparked a crossbow/longbow conversation]
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:47 PM (XeU6L)
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Yeah, to state the obvious, Fuel + Spark + Compression = Noise. Something's missing.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:44 PM (Yt3ED)
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I missed the symptoms, but how about valves? Also, check the flywheel/magneto for gap and timing.
Yeah, to state the obvious, Fuel + Spark + Compression = Noise. Something's missing.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:44 PM (Yt3ED)
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I missed the symptoms, but how about valves? Also, check the flywheel/magneto for gap and timing.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:48 PM (/lEKk)
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I know I've talked a lot about fitting the firearm to the person and how one that naturally 'points' for someone is the one to prefer. In my case, I only keep firearms for social occasions that 'point'. I should be able to repeat time and again raising the pistol to a natural point and being bang on with the sights. I can do that with a Springfield XD but not a Glock, with a Browning High Power, but not a Sig P238, and so on.
Where I can see red dots/etc on a handgun as very useful though is when you start getting into off kilter shooting positions and shooting while moving or perhaps at night.
Where I can see red dots/etc on a handgun as very useful though is when you start getting into off kilter shooting positions and shooting while moving or perhaps at night.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:48 PM (ctrM5)
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268 Oh, didja hear they are talking about moving the ATF under the DEA?
Posted by: blaster
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Need to move it under the Mariana Trench
Posted by: blaster
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Need to move it under the Mariana Trench
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at April 20, 2025 09:49 PM (sAmhv)
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In general, it's easier for me to aquire the target without one. It's not just the one I have. Maybe if I practiced more with one, but I don't really have any desire to. I'm old and the old ways are the best.
Posted by: fd
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Well, I prefer iron sights in most cases on rifles because that is what I learned with and certainly bead sights on shotguns as well. All my scopes, the few that I have, are low power ones.
Posted by: fd
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Well, I prefer iron sights in most cases on rifles because that is what I learned with and certainly bead sights on shotguns as well. All my scopes, the few that I have, are low power ones.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:50 PM (ctrM5)
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They got the barrel down to not much bigger than a coffee can now.
And at only $100k each*, well worth it.
* No idea how much but they surely cost more than an old drum filled with sand.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 20, 2025 09:40 PM (/lPRQ)
It's special sand. Military specification, requires full paperwork from the original sand supplier, verification of sand composition and characteristics from the sand vendor, must be able to trace each grain back to where it was dug up, must have been stored under controlled conditions, with full lifecycle documentation, must be correct density, correct moisture content and grain size.
They got the barrel down to not much bigger than a coffee can now.
And at only $100k each*, well worth it.
* No idea how much but they surely cost more than an old drum filled with sand.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at April 20, 2025 09:40 PM (/lPRQ)
It's special sand. Military specification, requires full paperwork from the original sand supplier, verification of sand composition and characteristics from the sand vendor, must be able to trace each grain back to where it was dug up, must have been stored under controlled conditions, with full lifecycle documentation, must be correct density, correct moisture content and grain size.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:51 PM (Yt3ED)
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I missed the symptoms, but how about valves? Also, check the flywheel/magneto for gap and timing.
Posted by: Weasel
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Given the mysterious behavior, it would indeed be worthwile to check cranking compression...just to make sure that all cylinders are doing what they ought.
Posted by: Weasel
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Given the mysterious behavior, it would indeed be worthwile to check cranking compression...just to make sure that all cylinders are doing what they ought.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:51 PM (XeU6L)
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I missed the symptoms, but how about valves? Also, check the flywheel/magneto for gap and timing.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:48 PM (/lEKk)
Symptoms are the engine does nothing. It is a hand crank start, and turn it and nothing happens. Magneto is correct, points gapped, timed with the flywheel according to procedure in the manual. at least two of the valves are moving I can see them with hte plugs out. I have a compression gauge and a borescope so I can have mroe info tomorrow.
It sparks. it sparks when it is supposed to. It doesn't do anything even with starterfluid sprayed in. Compression is the only thing left, really. The motor spins and pushes air through the valves (I can hear it and feel it) so the gauge will tell me whether its enough.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:48 PM (/lEKk)
Symptoms are the engine does nothing. It is a hand crank start, and turn it and nothing happens. Magneto is correct, points gapped, timed with the flywheel according to procedure in the manual. at least two of the valves are moving I can see them with hte plugs out. I have a compression gauge and a borescope so I can have mroe info tomorrow.
It sparks. it sparks when it is supposed to. It doesn't do anything even with starterfluid sprayed in. Compression is the only thing left, really. The motor spins and pushes air through the valves (I can hear it and feel it) so the gauge will tell me whether its enough.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:53 PM (QfvaV)
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267 I just don’t acquire as quickly with a red dot as with iron sights.
But when I do, I am right on.
IDPA coming up soon.
Posted by: RI Red
I am sorry that I forgot you competed in IDPA along with others. I knew you were doing the rifle and 22 LR competitions. Is your slide milled for a red dot retrofit or did you get one that could do it from the get go?
I have avoided trying the retrofit any for red dots and just have not been purchasing any new pistols during the last 4-5 years or so.
But when I do, I am right on.
IDPA coming up soon.
Posted by: RI Red
I am sorry that I forgot you competed in IDPA along with others. I knew you were doing the rifle and 22 LR competitions. Is your slide milled for a red dot retrofit or did you get one that could do it from the get go?
I have avoided trying the retrofit any for red dots and just have not been purchasing any new pistols during the last 4-5 years or so.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:53 PM (ctrM5)
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Wife and I are recovering from COVID so no range visit this week.
Still EDCing my CZ P-07 and my Easter church gun: the PSA Micro-Dagger.
With a red dot, the gun performs well enough to carry in church.
Still EDCing my CZ P-07 and my Easter church gun: the PSA Micro-Dagger.
With a red dot, the gun performs well enough to carry in church.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at April 20, 2025 09:53 PM (xcxpd)
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You can pickup military surplus sand dirt cheap. It does have a high lead content though.
Posted by: fd at April 20, 2025 09:53 PM (vFG9F)
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Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:53 PM (QfvaV)
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You sure it isn't running?
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You sure it isn't running?
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:54 PM (/lEKk)
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268 Oh, didja hear they are talking about moving the ATF under the DEA?
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:42 PM (QfvaV)
That doesn't sound like an improvement, unless it's a first step toward getting rid of both The DEA hasn't exactly delivered on it's stated mission, more drugs available now than when it started. Regardless of where you stand on legality of drugs, the DEA has been a failure.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:42 PM (QfvaV)
That doesn't sound like an improvement, unless it's a first step toward getting rid of both The DEA hasn't exactly delivered on it's stated mission, more drugs available now than when it started. Regardless of where you stand on legality of drugs, the DEA has been a failure.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:54 PM (Yt3ED)
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It's special sand. Military specification, requires full paperwork from the original sand supplier, verification of sand composition and characteristics from the sand vendor, must be able to trace each grain back to where it was dug up, must have been stored under controlled conditions, with full lifecycle documentation, must be correct density, correct moisture content and grain size.
Posted by: BillyD
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Not surprised if true, The spec sheets and requirements for a frigging chocolate chip cookie purchase were insane.
Posted by: BillyD
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Not surprised if true, The spec sheets and requirements for a frigging chocolate chip cookie purchase were insane.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:54 PM (ctrM5)
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You sure it isn't running?
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:54 PM (/lEKk)
It should be!
But it doesn't even smoke or cough.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:54 PM (/lEKk)
It should be!
But it doesn't even smoke or cough.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:55 PM (QfvaV)
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It's special sand. Military specification, requires full paperwork from the original sand supplier, verification of sand composition and characteristics from the sand vendor, must be able to trace each grain back to where it was dug up, must have been stored under controlled conditions, with full lifecycle documentation, must be correct density, correct moisture content and grain size.
Posted by: BillyD
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This, THIS is what it has been like dealing with FEMA in the aftermath of The Storm. 'Oh, we're going to have to have certification of the proper disposal of the old sand, before we will help with the new sand.'
It's special sand. Military specification, requires full paperwork from the original sand supplier, verification of sand composition and characteristics from the sand vendor, must be able to trace each grain back to where it was dug up, must have been stored under controlled conditions, with full lifecycle documentation, must be correct density, correct moisture content and grain size.
Posted by: BillyD
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This, THIS is what it has been like dealing with FEMA in the aftermath of The Storm. 'Oh, we're going to have to have certification of the proper disposal of the old sand, before we will help with the new sand.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 09:55 PM (XeU6L)
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282 Wife and I are recovering from COVID so no range visit this week.
Still EDCing my CZ P-07 and my Easter church gun: the PSA Micro-Dagger.
With a red dot, the gun performs well enough to carry in church.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Sorry to hear that. Get better soon.
Still EDCing my CZ P-07 and my Easter church gun: the PSA Micro-Dagger.
With a red dot, the gun performs well enough to carry in church.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Sorry to hear that. Get better soon.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:55 PM (ctrM5)
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If we're opening the 'red dot' discussion, I'll state again that at 7 yards or less, the dot is not useful. With my eyes, at 10+ yards it makes a huge improvement.
With rifles, it's even more useful at 300 yards or less. I don't shoot past that, so far.
With rifles, it's even more useful at 300 yards or less. I don't shoot past that, so far.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at April 20, 2025 09:56 PM (xcxpd)
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Sorry to hear that. Get better soon.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:55 PM (ctrM5)
Thanks Whig. The wife and I are healing.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:55 PM (ctrM5)
Thanks Whig. The wife and I are healing.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at April 20, 2025 09:56 PM (xcxpd)
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This, THIS is what it has been like dealing with FEMA in the aftermath of The Storm. 'Oh, we're going to have to have certification of the proper disposal of the old sand, before we will help with the new sand.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Of course, that allows them to pass on money to their select contractor buddies which is the same scam that the military (and it appears all of fedgov) does routinely.
Sorry you and W. NC got caught up with that awful bunch.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Of course, that allows them to pass on money to their select contractor buddies which is the same scam that the military (and it appears all of fedgov) does routinely.
Sorry you and W. NC got caught up with that awful bunch.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 09:58 PM (ctrM5)
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The only good thing I can say about the DEA is that they killed a lot of drug dealers.
I approve of this.
Maybe I should have had different career. Not the first time I've thought that.....
I approve of this.
Maybe I should have had different career. Not the first time I've thought that.....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at April 20, 2025 09:58 PM (xcxpd)
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280 I missed the symptoms, but how about valves? Also, check the flywheel/magneto for gap and timing.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:48 PM (/lEKk)
Symptoms are the engine does nothing. It is a hand crank start, and turn it and nothing happens. Magneto is correct, points gapped, timed with the flywheel according to procedure in the manual. at least two of the valves are moving I can see them with hte plugs out. I have a compression gauge and a borescope so I can have mroe info tomorrow.
It sparks. it sparks when it is supposed to. It doesn't do anything even with starterfluid sprayed in. Compression is the only thing left, really. The motor spins and pushes air through the valves (I can hear it and feel it) so the gauge will tell me whether its enough.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:53 PM (QfvaV)
Has anyone else "worked on" it before you? You mentioned it had the wrong magneto, maybe it has other wrong parts, like mismatched camshaft and crankshaft, giving wrong valve timing.
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:48 PM (/lEKk)
Symptoms are the engine does nothing. It is a hand crank start, and turn it and nothing happens. Magneto is correct, points gapped, timed with the flywheel according to procedure in the manual. at least two of the valves are moving I can see them with hte plugs out. I have a compression gauge and a borescope so I can have mroe info tomorrow.
It sparks. it sparks when it is supposed to. It doesn't do anything even with starterfluid sprayed in. Compression is the only thing left, really. The motor spins and pushes air through the valves (I can hear it and feel it) so the gauge will tell me whether its enough.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:53 PM (QfvaV)
Has anyone else "worked on" it before you? You mentioned it had the wrong magneto, maybe it has other wrong parts, like mismatched camshaft and crankshaft, giving wrong valve timing.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 09:59 PM (Yt3ED)
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The Easter Gunny!
Posted by: mindful webworker - He is Risen! at April 20, 2025 09:59 PM (JodDy)
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You sure it isn't running?
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:54 PM (/lEKk)
Now there's an idea. Maybe you just need to get your hearing checked.
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You sure it isn't running?
Posted by: Weasel at April 20, 2025 09:54 PM (/lEKk)
Now there's an idea. Maybe you just need to get your hearing checked.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 10:00 PM (Yt3ED)
297
This, THIS is what it has been like dealing with FEMA in the aftermath of The Storm. 'Oh, we're going to have to have certification of the proper disposal of the old sand, before we will help with the new sand.'
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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'And, btw, the contractor for the new sand will have to meet FEMA regulations, as will any of his subcontractors, and all of those will have to provide to FEMA certifications that all of their people are paid FEMA-required minimum wage. Also, we will want FEMA supervisors on-scene to verify the sand-dumping' Ad nauseam. You have no idea...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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'And, btw, the contractor for the new sand will have to meet FEMA regulations, as will any of his subcontractors, and all of those will have to provide to FEMA certifications that all of their people are paid FEMA-required minimum wage. Also, we will want FEMA supervisors on-scene to verify the sand-dumping' Ad nauseam. You have no idea...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 10:00 PM (XeU6L)
298
Maybe I should have had different career. Not the first time I've thought that.....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
My first thought was dealing with scumbags all the time would be tiring. The second is that working in a corporation or bureaucracy has often the same scumbags with better clothes and manners in charge to deal with.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
My first thought was dealing with scumbags all the time would be tiring. The second is that working in a corporation or bureaucracy has often the same scumbags with better clothes and manners in charge to deal with.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 10:02 PM (ctrM5)
299
Nood.
Posted by: BillyD at April 20, 2025 10:02 PM (Yt3ED)
300
Whig, I like the red dot on my S&W FPC. I can pick it up easily. But on my Ruger Max 9, it is at the very bottom of the sight and does not feel natural. It takes a second or so to align.
No go.
Also, if I don’t pull the trigger back exactly straight, it binds.
No go.
But it carries easily …
No go.
Also, if I don’t pull the trigger back exactly straight, it binds.
No go.
But it carries easily …
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 10:03 PM (X0fmk)
301
'And, btw, the contractor for the new sand will have to meet FEMA regulations, as will any of his subcontractors, and all of those will have to provide to FEMA certifications that all of their people are paid FEMA-required minimum wage. Also, we will want FEMA supervisors on-scene to verify the sand-dumping' Ad nauseam. You have no idea...
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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A racket in other words. Prime example of why we can't do things quickly and cheaply anymore from rebuilding roads to shooting for the stars.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
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A racket in other words. Prime example of why we can't do things quickly and cheaply anymore from rebuilding roads to shooting for the stars.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 10:03 PM (ctrM5)
302
But on my Ruger Max 9, it is at the very bottom of the sight and does not feel natural. It takes a second or so to align.
No go.
Also, if I don’t pull the trigger back exactly straight, it binds.
No go.
But it carries easily …
Posted by: RI Red
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Ugh. Would not like that.
No go.
Also, if I don’t pull the trigger back exactly straight, it binds.
No go.
But it carries easily …
Posted by: RI Red
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Ugh. Would not like that.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 10:04 PM (ctrM5)
303
Night folks.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 10:05 PM (ctrM5)
304
OK, night, all.
Thanks, Weasel.
Thanks, Weasel.
Posted by: RI Red at April 20, 2025 10:06 PM (X0fmk)
305
298 Maybe I should have had different career. Not the first time I've thought that.....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
My first thought was dealing with scumbags all the time would be tiring. The second is that working in a corporation or bureaucracy has often the same scumbags with better clothes and manners in charge to deal with.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 10:02 PM (ctrM5)
Dealing with government drama would suck, I deal with that today, but being able to drop hammers on bad guys might compensate for the bullshit IMO.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
My first thought was dealing with scumbags all the time would be tiring. The second is that working in a corporation or bureaucracy has often the same scumbags with better clothes and manners in charge to deal with.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2025 10:02 PM (ctrM5)
Dealing with government drama would suck, I deal with that today, but being able to drop hammers on bad guys might compensate for the bullshit IMO.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo at April 20, 2025 10:06 PM (xcxpd)
306
Sorry to have wandered OT, but my gut has stayed twisted from dealing with bureaucracies every day now for months. It gets at me.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2025 10:09 PM (XeU6L)
307
@aop a little birdie (with tiny little arms) is in our shared orbit and has shared with me your email address.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:02 PM (QfvaV)
OK. I went out for dinner, so missed the rest of this thread. Playing catch-up now.
Posted by: blaster - Fortis Fortuna Adiuvat at April 20, 2025 09:02 PM (QfvaV)
OK. I went out for dinner, so missed the rest of this thread. Playing catch-up now.
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