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Judge Orders Trump To Turn Deportation Plane Around and Bring the Illegals Back to America; Trump Pulls the Old "My **dio Is Break*** **, Can You Re***?" Gag
Trump sent a planeload of illegal alien criminals to be held in El Salvador's vibrant and diverse prisons. A federal judge decided he's the Commander in Chief now and ordered the plane to return.
Trump said "whoops, the plane's gone too far, can't call it back now, gee willickers sorry." And the left is having a nervous breakdown.LOL. They thirst for a constitutional crisis like they thirst for racism and "white supremacy."
Exclusive: How the White House ignored a judge's order to turn back deportation flights The Trump administration says it ignored a Saturday court order to turn around two planeloads of alleged Venezuelan gang members because the flights were over international waters and therefore the ruling didn't apply, two senior officials tell Axios. Why it matters: The administration's decision to defy a federal judge's order is exceedingly rare and highly controversial. "Court order defied. First of many as I've been warning and start of true constitutional crisis," national security attorney Mark S. Zaid, a Trump critic, wrote on X, adding that Trump could ultimately get impeached.
The White House welcomes that fight. "This is headed to the Supreme Court. And we're going to win," a senior White House official told Axios. A second administration official said Trump was not defying the judge whose ruling came too late for the planes to change course: "Very important that people understand we are not actively defying court orders." State of play: Trump's advisers contend U.S. District Judge James Boasberg overstepped his authority by issuing an order that blocked the president from deporting about 250 alleged Tren de Aragua gang members under the Alien Enemies Act of 1789. The war-time law gives the executive extreme immense power to deport noncitizens without a judicial hearing. But it has been little-used, particularly in peacetime. "It's the showdown that was always going to happen between the two branches of government," a senior White House official said. "And it seemed that this was pretty clean. You have Venezuelan gang members ... These are bad guys, as the president would say." ... "There was a discussion about how far the judge's ruling can go under the circumstances and over international waters and, on advice of counsel, we proceeded with deporting these thugs," the senior official said. "They were already outside of US airspace. We believe the order is not applicable," a second senior administration official told Axios.More from Fox: Karoline Leavitt blasted the judge for attempting to encroach on the president's sole power to conduct foreign policy.
"The order, which had no lawful basis, was issued after terrorist [Tren de Aragua] aliens had already been removed from U.S. territory," Leavitt said. "The written order and the Administration's actions do not conflict." "Moreover, as the Supreme Court has repeatedly made clear -- federal courts generally have no jurisdiction over the President's conduct of foreign affairs, his authorities under the Alien Enemies Act, and his core Article II powers to remove foreign alien terrorists from U.S. soil and repel a declared invasion," Leavitt added. "A single judge in a single city cannot direct the movements of an aircraft carrier full of foreign alien terrorists who were physically expelled from U.S. soil." On Sunday, El Salvador President Nayib Bukele responded to Boasberg's order by joking, "Oopsie... too late," in an X post. He also shared footage of heavily-armed Salvadorean authorities escorting the alleged gang members off the planes, shaving their heads and rounding them up in their prison cells. A total of 261 illegal aliens were deported from the U.S. to El Salvador yesterday -- 137 of which were through the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, 101 others were Venezuelans removed via Title 8 and another 21 were Salvadoran MS-13 gang members. Two others were MS-13 ringleaders and "special cases" for El Salvador. A senior Trump administration official confirmed the numbers to Fox News on Sunday, explaining that the migrants' alleged crimes included kidnapping, sexual abuse of a child, aggravated assault, prostitution, robbery and aggravated assault of a police officer.
Oopsie…
— Nayib Bukele (@nayibbukele) March 16, 2025
Too late 😂 pic.twitter.com/nDHL6deLJq
Today, the first 238 members of the Venezuelan criminal organization, Tren de Aragua, arrived in our country. They were immediately transferred to CECOT, the Terrorism Confinement Center, for a period of one year (renewable).
— Nayib Bukele (@nayibbukele) March 16, 2025
The United States will pay a very low fee for them,… pic.twitter.com/tfsi8cgpD6
NEW: Judge Boasberg just scheduled a 4pm hearing this afternoon and is demanding answers from Trump adm on questions presented in today's ACLU filing on behalf of Venezuelan terrorists: pic.twitter.com/oYrxSqirKa
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) March 17, 2025
We have sent 2 dangerous top MS-13 leaders plus 21 of its most wanted back to face justice in El Salvador. Also, as promised by @POTUS, we sent over 250 alien enemy members of Tren de Aragua which El Salvador has agreed to hold in their very good jails at a fair price that will…
— Secretary Marco Rubio (@SecRubio) March 16, 2025
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 17, 2025 12:01 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: RonF at March 17, 2025 12:01 PM (l8nW6)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 17, 2025 12:02 PM (mlg/3)
Posted by: Dr. T at March 17, 2025 12:02 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:02 PM (GD2xa)
Judges are capable of issuing illegal orders.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
Um....yes?
Well, that was a short discussion.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 17, 2025 12:04 PM (jGGMD)
So the typical Dem voter. Along with that spark of divinity.
And getting tired of the term "migrants" being abused here just because not enough people are challenging the ones saying it.
Posted by: NR Pax at March 17, 2025 12:04 PM (jjoN6)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 17, 2025 12:05 PM (N1tpc)
Well, that was a short discussion.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 17, 2025 12:04 PM (jGGMD)
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I only feel the need to make it explicit because the narrative around things seems to be that Trump "must" follow all judicial orders.
But...what if they're illegal?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
The answer to high crimes and misdemeanors is impeachment. What is the process for addressing bad behavior?
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:05 PM (GD2xa)
Posted by: tubal at March 17, 2025 12:05 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Harun at March 17, 2025 12:06 PM (IuIym)
Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2025 12:06 PM (KQk9m)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 17, 2025 12:06 PM (mlg/3)
Honestly we need some kind of ruling on this - its a lot like in theory in the military you should not obey an illegal order.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at March 17, 2025 12:06 PM (fgmuN)
Great way to start off the week!
I love this. This is the perfect case to highlight. So egregious and by a notorious J6 judge.
Wish we didn;t have to wait til 4 pm for the court hearing.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (79pEw)
Posted by: NR Pax at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (jjoN6)
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (CljNn)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: BignJames at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (Yj6Os)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (xG4kz)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (N1tpc)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: CrankyJAnne at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (D9jZp)
He loves Latino criminals so much, let him luxuriate in his presence.
Posted by: Bulg at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (77rzZ)
Just to be sure.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:05 PM (GBKbO)
No doubt we'll hear that judges are the guardians of democracy, and any criticism of them by individual citizens, or the officials those citizens elected, is the first step to Nazism.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (jGGMD)
Posted by: Bulg at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: bluebell at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (79pEw)
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: Leftist hero Josef Stalin at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (fA91Z)
Honestly we need some kind of ruling on this - its a lot like in theory in the military you should not obey an illegal order.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at March 17, 2025 12:06 PM (fgmuN)
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I saw a point made this weekend:
Nixon ignored a judicial order to stop the war in Cambodia.
Nothing came of it.
The judiciary is genuinely, in very real terms, the least powerful branch of government that has the biggest facade of power it can't back up. Everyone seems to recognize this...except the judiciary.
All it's going to take is Trump announcing that Marbury v Madison is an unconstitutional and illegitimate encroachment on executive and legislative authority by the judiciary, and it all comes crashing down. I'm shocked that it seems like so few realize it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
Demand this, you a***ole.
*grabs crotch*
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)
They're demanding that terrorist gang members be RETURNED to the streets of America.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)
If you want things followed, actually put them in writing next time.
The end.
Posted by: Nova Local at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (MLvzu)
What was this legal basis? Well President Trump activated a very old law regarding deporting enemy combattants, basically it allows the president to throw people out of the country who are members of a nation at war with the USA. OK, but El Salvador is not at war with the USA, so the judge said "you cannot use this statute to deport these scumbags because you have not designated the nation at war."
Now, as far as that goes, its true: The US is not at war with anyone right now. Except... terrorists have for about 25 years been at war with terrorists, who are designated a distinct entity found in any nation. So there is some legal obscurity here. It should be interesting to see how this plays out.
Just like Trump negating pardons because Biden wasn't even PRESENT for a lot of them and the autopen was used. This will go to court and could be really interesting.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: tubal at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:05 PM (GD2xa)
Win elections.
Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (z+ik4)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: brak at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (4sYV0)
Judges are capable of issuing illegal orders.
Discuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Of course they are. There are actually measures such as writs of mandamus (basically an order to a judge by a higher court to stop doing shit or do their frigging job) among other tools that appellate courts can use.
Administrations can refuse to apply a decision by a judge to others that are not specifically named as parties, ignore rulings like this judge's that exceed the jurisdiction of the court, forum shopping (probably why those creeps at Guantanamo were sent to Louisiana), 5th Circuit is a no nonsense circuit and that establishes precedents other district judges are supposed to honor. Same reason Mr. Columbia takeover was sent there--habeas corpus must be filed in the jurisdiction you are being held (not in lefty friendly SD NY). And so on.
For fun, read up on Ex Parte Merryman where a general managing a stockade told Chief Justice Taney that he only responded to orders from the President, not judges. Taney had the common sense to not push the issue to Scotus (he was issuing the habeas order as a circuit judge hearing the case).
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (/x6eu)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (paSBy)
Empathy doesn't enter into it. It's just blind Trump hatred.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (xCA6C)
Demand away, commie.
Someone is cruisin' for an El Salvadoran haircut...
Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (RFx0q)
Posted by: Halfhand at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (fCLft)
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (dCxaZ)
The Part of President Trump will be played by Foghorn Leghorn and the part of Judge Boasberg will be played by Dog.
"Ahh, shaddup!"
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (Aqu9a)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (2VST1)
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Being at war is not a requirement of the Alien Act.
There's an "or" in there that allows the president to merely declare an invasion.
Which he's done.
The Act was signed when we weren't even at war. There were high tensions with France that could have turned into a war, but they never did. Still, Adams had French nationals ejected under the law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
In addition to "talking past the sale" like they understand something the reader doesn't (as in its not just dumb opinion), they are also priming everybody to just be ordered what to think.
It's insidious, because it appears like the writer is just being helpful.
Posted by: ... at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (lX8VI)
They should move to immediately defund/disband the DC Circuit Court.
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (V6W16)
Posted by: Kevin Clinesmith at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (fA91Z)
Judge Boasberg is playing into this. What's he going to do now: Declare Trump in contempt?
Boasberg was in Yale's Skull and Bones. Just sayin'
As this plays out it will validate Trump's power to deport criminal illegals. More on deck.
SCOTUS knows the Constitution isn't a suicide pact.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (Gqoy+)
Succinct Ace is best Ace.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (i24o9)
Reply in full: Dear Judge, f*ck you.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (/y8xj)
I fought the law and I won
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (MLvzu)
How does this suit serve US citizens.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (tT6L1)
Honestly we need some kind of ruling on this - its a lot like in theory in the military you should not obey an illegal order.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at March 17, 2025 12:06 PM (fgmuN)
I'd like Trump to send a message to Roberts which says:
There's a clock on how long we're going to tolerate this judicial bullshit. Either rein in your children or I'll declare that federal courts, having demonstrated that they cannot act in an unbiased fashion, may not rule on matters facing the United States and you can try to get me removed via impeachment. I think we both know that won't work and then all your importance will be gone forever.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Halfhand at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (fCLft)
Kavanaugh is the one you have to watch (with Roberts) on admin issues...
Posted by: Nova Local at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Taq, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 17, 2025 12:07 PM (CljNn)
There is a reason the term Kritarchy for 'rule by Judges' is an almost unknown term, even in Political History College courses.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (QAkQ3)
On another note, I hope we are done with the idea that ACLU is about civil liberties.
Can we be done with that idea?
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (OaZlZ)
Like Camembert cheese and tuna fish...Enjoy!
Posted by: President Donald Trump, Shot Caller at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (Ic155)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
I think it was actually Marbury vs Monroe
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (Uq+qx)
Posted by: Bitcoin Fixes Everything at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (V6W16)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:05 PM (GD2xa)
With judges it is apparently just "failure to act in good behavior" and only requires a majority vote.
There are a lot of really dirty judges around, and I am wondering how far a wave of impeachment will go if it starts.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:10 PM (ctrM5)
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The judiciary is not going to win a fight with the executive over executive powers, especially not this executive.
For their own self-preservation, SCOTUS needs to shut these things down.
Trump is going to do it all anyway. SCOTUS can retain judicial supremacy in some degree, or he can watch Trump declare Marbury v Madison unconstitutional and SCOTUS can't do anything about it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: tubal at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (PCK5/)
I wanted to see the part where they castrated them right on the tarmac before loading them into the buses. Use those crimpers like they do for steers.
Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (z+ik4)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (GBKbO)
The Executive's duty to obey the courts depends entirely on the voting public's good will towards the courts.
Nixon gave up the tapes because the polling told him he needed to (because the public were being manipulated by the WaPo), not because he absolutely had to.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (GD2xa)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (gm9Sb)
I think a few do, which is why they keep getting overturned before it gets to the supreme court: to prevent the entire principle from being ruled on.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (2VST1)
Apparently Trump was talking on a headset to "command" people dealing with the Houthis while he was also playing at Mar a Lago. He won some sort of golf championship too. I'm surprised the left isn't saying, "Golf is a RACIST game invented by violent Europeans who were trying to kill off peaceful, loving pagans in Scotland . "
Scratch that. They already said the golf is racist part.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (YLESS)
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (Uq+qx)
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I understood this reference.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 17, 2025 12:09 PM (MLvzu)
Senators did. Usually in a bipartisan fashion.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (ExV1e)
He loves Latino criminals so much, let him luxuriate in his presence.
Posted by: Bulg at March 17, 2025 12:08 PM (77rzZ)
Send him half-way to El Salvador, and kick his ass out the door of the plane.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (MqtqS)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (LdsRU)
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President Don Black's administration would not have even acknowledged the ruling
or similar rulings
President Don Black would eventually be impeached for something
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (AOsQT)
Keep it coming.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (i24o9)
Am I surprised? Not really. Democraps are the party of criminal scumbags degenerate CHUDs. But still, to see it in action is something else.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
The local street gangs had to get involved.
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (dCxaZ)
Keep it coming.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (i24o9)
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Requisite reminder that 20 months is a lifetime in politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
Judge Boasberg must feel VERY important right now.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (jbnUc)
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (LdsRU)
Breaking: Judge orders Butch and Sunni's re-entering Dragon capsule to stop and return to the space station.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 17, 2025 12:15 PM (w6EFb)
Now, I need an imperial theme song....
Posted by: His Royal Highness, James Boasberg at March 17, 2025 12:15 PM (fA91Z)
Before the election I was told, quite breathlessly, that Trump could order SEAL Team Six to kill anyone he wanted without consequence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:15 PM (ExV1e)
Honestly we need some kind of ruling on this - its a lot like in theory in the military you should not obey an illegal order.
Posted by: Ryan Frank at March 17, 2025 12:06 PM (fgmuN)
You have to understand where the authority for these rulings comes from.
The Fed Court runs under Federal Court Rules, which are WRITTEN by the Supreme Court, under authority delegated to it by Congress, to write such rules. There is actually no where in Law where this authority is given to the Courts, EXCEPT through these rules, and Court precedents.
This power is given unto Judges, by the Supreme Court itself.... oh and these rules were updated JUST LAST YEAR... thus by Roberts himself.
In order for these Judges to be reigned in, the Supreme Court itself has to RULE it was wrong...
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 17, 2025 12:15 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at March 17, 2025 12:15 PM (xcxpd)
"The order, which had no lawful basis
That judge found out like Governor Abbott did. Immigration policy is the president's baliwick.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:16 PM (BLpWt)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 17, 2025 12:16 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2025 12:16 PM (YLESS)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (Uq+qx)
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I understood this reference.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
Good because I kinda cracked myself up with that one
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:16 PM (Uq+qx)
First of all, what part of government prosecutes?
Ah, that's the DoJ.
Then given the invented "Separation between Presidency and the DoJ", how ever could Obama claim (as they did in court) "prosecutorial discretion"?
Also, why "prosecutorial discretion" unless border-jumping can be prosecuted.
The courts agreed to Obama's "discretion" (as chief executive, and prosecution being an executive function), however, it stipulated a lack of prosecution does not grant legal presence.
Almost every Dem has gone on from there to basically pretend that such a distinction is "mean".
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:16 PM (OaZlZ)
Posted by: kallisto
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Over powered by the will and brutality of the foreigners.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 17, 2025 12:16 PM (LdsRU)
To allow the Sec. of State define enemy aliens and have them deported.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:16 PM (Uq+qx)
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Pour out a good scotch for it!
*impish smile*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
And so he did. On the tarmac in El Salvador. He's not going to just leave a perfectly good airplane there.
Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (5IEcl)
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More, please.
The Left has corrupted the US Judiciary just as they have in many other countries to ensure that they always get their way even when the voters reject them.
The Judiciary must therefore be deprived of its influence until it is purified from Leftist influence.
Posted by: Methos at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (Dnobf)
Keep it coming.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (i24o9)
Not if 50 GOP senators retire and have something to say about it.
Posted by: ... at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (lX8VI)
A good, willowed companion to this thread.
And now...
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Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 17, 2025 11:47 AM (copfg)
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (VE6XX)
Before the election I was told, quite breathlessly, that Trump could order SEAL Team Six to kill anyone he wanted without consequence.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
My h/o? It can cut diamonds.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (BLpWt)
@nicksortor
🚨 NEW: Chuck Schumer has CANCELED his book tour this week because his party has TURNED on him
Protestors were planning on crashing each one of them 🤣
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (6GawR)
Posted by: tubal at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (PCK5/)
Breaking: Judge orders Butch and Sunni's re-entering Dragon capsule to stop and return to the space station.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at March 17, 2025 12:15 PM (w6EFb)
their Visa has expired?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 17, 2025 12:18 PM (QAkQ3)
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2025 12:18 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (VE6XX)
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I trust that 5 of them value the role SCOTUS usurped 200+ years ago and don't want to lose it by the executive simply taking power back by declaring it.
Besides, how many divisions does SCOTUS have?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:18 PM (GBKbO)
*impish smile*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
There is an oxymoron in your imperative
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:18 PM (Uq+qx)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
French revolutionaries were the Commies of the late 18th century. Citizen Genet was only the most infamous of those assholes. They organized pro-revolutionary sentiment in the US and signed letters of marque for entreprenurial American for the purpose of attacking British shipping. The UK was not amused.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:18 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: ... at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (lX8VI)
Which will probably be the key to overturning this fool's order. But I was quoting what he said in his ruling, that the president did not declare any nation. And it fits the invasion rule as well: invaded by whom? What country? This is less easy to support, because you can be invaded by, say, asians or left handed people without them necessarily coming from one particular nation. That makes it no less an invasion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (2VST1)
*impish smile*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (GBKbO)
There is an oxymoron in your imperative
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:18 PM (Uq+qx)
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And here I thought you were going to go with something along the lines of, "The only good scotch is a wasted scotch, I shall pour it out...on the ground!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: ... at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (lX8VI)
The Left: We still have GOPe.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (i24o9)
Honestly we need some kind of ruling on this - its a lot like in theory in the military you should not obey an illegal order.
Posted by: Ryan Frank
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Not so easy. Depends on what Judge tries to do to force the administration to comply. Those orders are immediately appealable.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (yYWHi)
Can POTUS defund feral District Courts and their Judges?
/Lie to me if you must ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 09:08 AM (pkm6L)
Yes (but be aware that this is a lie).
Congress, OTOH, can actually just delete them.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 09:19 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (6GawR)
@nicksortor
🚨 NEW: Chuck Schumer has CANCELED his book tour this week because his party has TURNED on him
Protestors were planning on crashing each one of them 🤣
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire
Were they throwing raw hamburgers in his general direction?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (/U5Yz)
Seriously though. They are actually treating these agitators and campus terrorism organizers with kid gloves. Unlawful enemy combatants covers a lot of territory while at the same time being of sufficient specificity to be useful.
It was a fatal if predictable error to treat the Moslem Jihad in our nation as merely “crimes” to be dealt with in courtrooms, judges, bail, and the rest of it.
Posted by: Common Tater at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (X3SL3)
How does this suit serve US citizens.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM
Yeah...and the scum in the National Lawyers Guild tripped over themselves to defend their friends in Gitmo.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (hOk1M)
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I half expect Trump already has that tweet written and is saving it for a special occasion.
1 year anniversary of Butler, for example.
Posted by: Methos at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (mOsyf)
Posted by: ... at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (lX8VI)
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We will have to elect Democrats to avoid the low quality of conservative populist candidates, in that case.
Posted by: Gatekeeper Mitch at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (OaZlZ)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (Uq+qx)
I searched Marbury v Monroe, just to see if there was such a case. The first line of the AI summary was: You're clearly confused. Are you a Rush fan?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: WisRich at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM (GBKbO)
French revolutionaries were the Commies of the late 18th century. Citizen Genet was only the most infamous of those assholes. They organized pro-revolutionary sentiment in the US and signed letters of marque for entreprenurial American for the purpose of attacking British shipping. The UK was not amused.
Posted by: mrp
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Yep.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (VE6XX)
I wish I trusted any judge.
But mostly SCOTUS.
Posted by: Just Lily at March 17, 2025 12:21 PM (+A03x)
Posted by: JM in Illinois at March 17, 2025 12:21 PM (QNzNJ)
If Trump cured cancer the Democrats would side with cancer.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2025 12:21 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Boss Moss at March 17, 2025 12:21 PM (MLvzu)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 17, 2025 12:21 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: WisRich at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (G0vdT)
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*well reasoned argument and forcefully exerted assertion of Article II powers not being subject to Article III bodies*
-told sternly but respectfully because the administration doesn't quite think it's time to be an asshole about it
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (GBKbO)
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Someone 'splain this to me. So, if you're a noncitizen, the president cannot deport your illegal alien backside out until you have a judicial hearing?
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (qBdHI)
And didn't the Supreme Court rule that Biden had no right or power to forgive billions in student loans, but he kept right on doing it over and over?
Why wasn't that a "Constitutional Crisis??
You can't loathe our media enough.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (Fyl+x)
Nah, Congress could do it in an hour, just change the rules on what they are able to adjudicate. As you said, their scope of authority is defined by congress.
Stop laughing. I said stop!
Ok yeah, congress will never do this. But that's the easy way to fix it. Either the Supreme Court or Congress has to carefully define how and what lesser courts are able to rule on and what that means.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (2VST1)
‘ Hopefully this ruling is the "bridge too far" for even Roberts and Barrett when this goes to the SC.’
Hopefully someone from the Trump administration is telling them privately that Executive nullification of Judicial Review is on the table.
That should help the court do the right thing.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (jbnUc)
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What'll he do if nobody shows? That'd be fun.
The other thing... who petitioned Assberg to have the illegals, cartel members and terrorists returned to the US? Did he just dream this up out of thin air?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: eleven at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (0HaGk)
More from Fox: Karoline Leavitt blasted the judge for attempting to encroach on the president's sole power to conduct foreign policy.
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Make The Logan Act Prosecutable Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (6GawR)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 09:19 AM (ExV1e)
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (6GawR)
Yup, just like the Fed Budget, the reason courts are out of control, is because Congress will not use the power it has to fix them...
Congress has abrogated its responsibilities for decades.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (QAkQ3)
‘ Hopefully this ruling is the "bridge too far" for even Roberts and Barrett when this goes to the SC.’
Hopefully someone from the Trump administration is telling them privately that Executive nullification of Judicial Review is on the table.
That should help the court do the right thing.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (jbnUc)
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And...if the administration is telling them that through back channels...the slow-ish judicial process still needs to play out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (GBKbO)
🚨 NEW: Chuck Schumer has CANCELED his book tour this week because his party has TURNED on him
"Well, I guess he won't be getting a 2nd or 3rd house......"
- - - - - Bernie Sanders
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Eternity Matters at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (yT7Wa)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:02 PM (GD2xa)
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Sure, but I prefer the Bee's story that a judge appointed himself President.
Posted by: JM in Illinois at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (QNzNJ)
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (qBdHI)
"I" can get 15 year single malt. They better be selling their souls for a hell of a lot better.
Posted by: But I'm a Hero, the media says so at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (F/35S)
Marine is on his way to Seattle for a short visit! I will cook dinner and share with BOTH of my boys.
It’s been YEARS since it was just us around a table.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (mT+6a)
Now, take it a step further. Next, ignore one and say "Judge Assface has overstepped his bounds. I don't have to listen to this clown, and I won't. If that greasy turd has a problem with it, he can take it up with those those dirty bitches down the road from MY house. Depending on what those jagoffs say, we might have to have a real hard national conversation about what Article III *actually* says. A fearless conversation that changes everything. Your move."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2025 12:18 PM (dCxaZ)
He's gonna meet his daddy in the cell block. He'll be the mommy.
Posted by: Roy at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (z+ik4)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
Nah, even I won't actually waste it. I merely leave it for those of you who somehow enjoy it. Ya weirdos!
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (Uq+qx)
Were they throwing raw hamburgers in his general direction?
Posted by: Maj. Healey
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Chuck knew that wasn't the right way to grill a burger. But he also knew doing it the right way would show, however slim, a connection with those not Of The Body. Can't be doing that.
Better to be foolish than disloyal to The Body
Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (k/U8Z)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (5hfjS)
And didn't the Supreme Court rule that Biden had no right or power to forgive billions in student loans, but he kept right on doing it over and over?
Why wasn't that a "Constitutional Crisis??
You can't loathe our media enough.
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (Fyl+x)
This, so much this
Posted by: moki at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (wLjpr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (2VST1)
The act doesn't require a national sponsor for the individuals deported, however Trump names Venezuela and Maduro's government in particular here
The invocation of the alien enemies act, and it includes the basis of involking it on Tred de Aragua
https://tinyurl.com/mumvm7ww
Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (Uq+qx)
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Dolley bought me five little bottles of scotch in Scotland last week. Can't wait to open 'em this weekend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
TJM, Marbury is a political decision made by Marshall during a time where Scotus was under serious political fire. Marshall had the genius to order the Jefferson administration to do 'nothing' because the Judiciary Act of 1789 unconstitutionally extended judicial power for Scotus to issue writs of mandamus to Sec. of State Madison to pay Marbury for the rest of his supposed term in office. By the way, less known, is that this decision defined when a person became the officeholder by addressing the appointments clause.
Marbury was not used a basis to overturn congressional laws again until Dred Scott.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (Q4IgG)
ACLU with 12 'anonymous' Defendents if early press accounts were accurate.
Yup, the American Communist League Union supplies the lawyers... hmmm... wonder if US Aid Money went to the ACLU?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (QAkQ3)
Yes of course it's likely all within the baseless framework of judicial supremacy/usurpation ("we deem that in this case the executive can exercise the clear constitutional and statutory authority it has, because we are suffused with 'restraint' and opt to not assert our baseless authority to exceed our legitimate bounds"), but still.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (1m82a)
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Wait until this bozo finds out what Biden said about defying the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Jay in PA at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (i7Q7S)
It’s been YEARS since it was just us around a table.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM (mT+6a)
That's awesome. Congrats!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:12 PM (Uq+qx)
I searched Marbury v Monroe, just to see if there was such a case. The first line of the AI summary was: You're clearly confused. Are you a Rush fan?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (ExV1e)
AI knows me well
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (Uq+qx)
How does this suit serve US citizens.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 17, 2025 12:11 PM
Yeah...and the scum in the National Lawyers Guild tripped over themselves to defend their friends in Gitmo.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (hOk1M)
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ACLU abandoned its original mission decades ago. It's now a radical leftwing commie organization that opposes pretty much everything "American."
Ditto organizations like ADL. This is supposedly a pro-Jewish advocacy group that hates Jews, hates Israel, and duckspeaks commie bullshit. Some of what comes out of their mouths could have been said by Hitler.
A good rule of thumb is that whatever ACLU or ADL opposes, you should support, and vice versa.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
And did they offer up a bond equal to the cost of this ruling, as required by law?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: proudvastrightwingguy at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (Fyl+x)
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+1
Posted by: JM in Illinois at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (QNzNJ)
To allow the Sec. of State define enemy aliens and have them deported.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:17 PM (ctrM5)
The Global "War" on Terror is still ongoing, yes? We just bombed Houthis without a formal Congressional declaration.
It seems like an insistence on a Congressionally declared war is a bit out of step with current realities of the exercise of executive war powers, not that I expect consistency from the left.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (paSBy)
Posted by: kallisto at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (dCxaZ)
The invocation of the alien enemies act, and it includes the basis of involking it on Tred de Aragua
https://tinyurl.com/mumvm7ww
Posted by: Kindltot
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Yes. And Maduro blamed Biden publicly for telling him to sent the gang to the US.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: mishdog at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (+Ei0O)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (OaZlZ)
I would show up and waive my dick at him. That court and judge have no such authority over the POTUS. The role of the judiciary in these matters is zero and well established. Maybe Roberts should get up off his ass and reign in the lower courts, which have zero authority under the constitution. Right now the courts rate lower than syphillis. Do they want to go for dental surgery levels?
Posted by: Vengeance at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (JmM38)
But...what if they're illegal?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
As the executor of the law, anything the President does is legal. See Nixon, or Obama.
As the interpreters of the law, any request a judge makes is legal.
Irresistible force, meet immovable object.
Posted by: mikeski, paradoxically at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (PDzc9)
Posted by: Otto Pen - what thinks this party's starting at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (sJHOI)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (LkLld)
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Even DU has a healthy dose of being flummoxed at the situation.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
I believe the correct description would be "a handful of wee bottles"
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (Uq+qx)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (c6hLR)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:19 PM (GBKbO)
Nah, even I won't actually waste it. I merely leave it for those of you who somehow enjoy it. Ya weirdos!
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (Uq+qx)
Hey now ...
***Spock eyebrow***
Posted by: browndog spreading chalk dust everywhere at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (TTAGa)
Once a party brings up the lack of subject matter jurisdiction to the court, the court MUST rule on that question, and MUST dismiss the action if no jurisdiction exists. There is NO argument that this judge had jurisdiction over the question.
Trump should just ignore this Black-Robed Insurrectionist, and force the Supreme Court to weigh in on this continued fuckery by the lower courts.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (bK7PL)
Wonderful news, I am so happy for you all
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (GBKbO)
I believe the correct description would be "a handful of wee bottles"
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (Uq+qx)
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I cheerfully accept the correction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (GBKbO)
Thanks suckers? Losers?
I sure as hell know it isn't gratitude and respect for their fine legal reasoning and dedication to the constitution.
Posted by: Ripley at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (GUOwU)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (LkLld)
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Orangeman is bad. Impeach dictator Orangeman.
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (OaZlZ)
Posted by: Black Orchid at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (Pv3Rg)
It's just like Animal House for Mexicans then the guy with the golf club (Trump ) shows up.
Posted by: Dreamingrobot at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (xmuK7)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 17, 2025 12:13 PM (gm9Sb)
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You Marines are Tough SOBs!
Posted by: JM in Illinois at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (QNzNJ)
@nicksortor
🚨 Tom Homan just EMBARRASSED a fake news activist over Trump’s use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport gang members 🤣
REPORTER: “That law is 200 years old!”
HOMAN: “Well, the Constitution is a lot older than that and we still follow it, don’t we?” 🔥
https://is.gd/6mjnZd
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (6GawR)
Posted by: WisRich at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (LkLld)
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall during this "strategy" meeting.
The dumb would transcend space and time.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (PMtkd)
Trump's just said that Biden's pardons are void because Joe was oblivious. It's more than "auto-pen." The legal challenge will come up in the context of the DOJ charging someone on the list who's guilty as sin, who will then say he was pardoned. The DOJ will say "not so fast", we have evidence that Joe never knew about this.
Judges who defy this will be exposed as partisan hackes, and be overturned on appeal.
So everyone who thought they had a pardon has exposure.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (Gqoy+)
How is the federal court system funded? I know, it's always funded most recently by CR. But, in the event that an actual budget is sent to Congress and somehow, in an obvious administrative error, funding for the courts gets left out?
Also, how much do the federal courts receive and how is it spent?
I now, more than one question.
Morning, at least here, Ace!
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, McFailure wing of the Uniparty at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (vhAN9)
I believe the correct description would be "a handful of wee bottles"
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (Uq+qx)
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Followed by "git yer hands off me Lucky Charms!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)
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Yes, but my read on the key motivation was this: John Marshall watched the Federalist Party's fate get sealed in 1800, and said "we still control this branch, and we control it for life. I'm going to seize as much power for it as I can, RIGHT NOW, before it's too late."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (BI5O2)
Marine is on his way to Seattle for a short visit! I will cook dinner and share with BOTH of my boys.
It’s been YEARS since it was just us around a table.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 17, 2025 12:23 PM
That sounds like a fine situation, nurse. Enjoy the hell out of it!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (hOk1M)
Posted by: WisRich at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (G0vdT)
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His written order didn't even include the demand to turn the planes around.
He stirred up shit for absolutely no purpose other than to make himself look big and powerful. And now he's got a target on his back and could be a major chapter in the elimination of lower courts have much authority at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
nor should they have home rule nor any non-govt inhabitants
Posted by: Black Orchid at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (Pv3Rg)
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Agree.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 17, 2025 12:29 PM (PMtkd)
Fuck you. Next question.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:29 PM (BLpWt)
@nicksortor
🚨 Tom Homan just EMBARRASSED a fake news activist over Trump’s use of the Alien Enemies Act to deport gang members 🤣
REPORTER: “That law is 200 years old!”
HOMAN: “Well, the Constitution is a lot older than that and we still follow it, don’t we?” 🔥
https://is.gd/6mjnZd
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (6GawR)
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Nice
Posted by: WisRich at March 17, 2025 12:29 PM (G0vdT)
That is such a strange tack. How old is the law against murder?? Should we ignore it because its, like, so OOOLLLD?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (9RB1C)
Fuck right the fuck off you cocksucking son of a mother fucking bitch.
Regards
Mayhem
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (4XwPj)
It seems like an insistence on a Congressionally declared war is a bit out of step with current realities of the exercise of executive war powers, not that I expect consistency from the left.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder
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I try to point a key concurrence in Sawyer v. Youngstown Sheet and Tube. Justice Jackson created the three part test for presidential actions where a President acts on their own constitutional authority and Congress has authorized those actions by law, then courts must defer to those branches on questions like war, invasions, national security, etc. far more than even prosecutions.
See Curtiss Wright Export v. US for Sutherland's opinion that the president is the SOLE organ for national defense/diplomacy. FDR was acting on the basis of the Neutrality Act but Sutherland opined was not really necessary except to criminal charge Curtiss Wright. The exports could be banned directly by FDR simply on constitutional powers alone.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (ctrM5)
REPORTER: “That law is 200 years old!”
"Oy F*CK are you serious? You're willing to show how f*cking stupid you are to EVERYONE like that?"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: JackStraw
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That judge just defined what is required to be an inner party member in good standing. They have no choice but to obey.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (u+80A)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (t/2Uw)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:20 PM (ExV1e)
That's Oak v. Maple.
AI must be confused.
Posted by: Reforger at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (xcIvR)
The press has no “right” to information.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (mT+6a)
My response:
Proclamation? Are you referring to the Emancipation Proclamation? Or maybe you are making reference to the George Washington's Proclamation of Neutrality. You're going to have to be more specific.
Oh, you mean the Judge's Order. Hmmm....Ok Ok....I'm going to need some time to get the information relevant to that question. I sure wish you would have detailed what proclamation you were referring to initially. It would have saved us all time. How about next week some time. I should have your answers by then.
Posted by: Orson at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (dIske)
Marine is on his way to Seattle for a short visit! I will cook dinner and share with BOTH of my boys.
It’s been YEARS since it was just us around a table.
Posted by: nurse ratched
Congrats nurse!
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (BLpWt)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (6K6Eu)
Thanks suckers? Losers?
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Only when they are being honest.
Criminals don't get to where they are by being honest.
"Never give up the con.
Never give up the con.
Never give up the con."
Criminals often almost convince themselves that are 1) innocent, 2) framed, 3) less guilty then everybody else they are imprisoned with. They often think the cops have done them wrong and would like to "pay them back".
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (OaZlZ)
That is such a strange tack. How old is the law against murder?? Should we ignore it because its, like, so OOOLLLD?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Last invoked in 1946 by Harry Truman btw.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (Uq+qx)
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Followed by "git yer hands off me Lucky Charms!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)
This guy gets it!
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (Uq+qx)
I have so much to say on this, hoping it shows up as a post today. Unless I missed one last night.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (2VST1)
Fuck you. Next question.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:29 PM (BLpWt)
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HA! Please tell me no one from the Trump administration plans on showing up.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: RUReadingthis at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (aQ25I)
Posted by: Jay in PA at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (9RB1C)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (2VST1)
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It seems possible this will be a main post. It's kind of a big deal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Otto Pen - what thinks this party's starting at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (sJHOI)
Like, flaming skull big. YUGE
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (2VST1)
That is, it isn’t illegal to be a Communist. But you can’t work for Uncle Sam.
They need to check out a bunch of people. Bring back HUAC
Posted by: Common Tater at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (/DOZY)
Less common is -- unless it's you declare an emergency, ATC won't let you go back due to disruption to other traffic.
Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (tqvHK)
Posted by: RUReadingthis at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (aQ25I)
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Lose: Pardons are unquestionable and absolute. Trump can pardon whomever and whenever.
Win: Biden's autopenned pardons are illegal, and Trump can bring suit against 1/6 committee members who destroyed evidence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (GBKbO)
I mean, that's the hill they are choosing to die on?
Terms are accepted.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (7oyRZ)
Posted by: gKWVE at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (azDx7)
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:24 PM (Uq+qx)
Hey now ...
***Spock eyebrow***
Posted by: browndog spreading chalk dust everywhere at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (TTAGa)
Surefire way to get browndog to delurk
*Darth Vader voice on*
All too easy
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (Uq+qx)
I believe the correct description would be "a handful of wee bottles"
Posted by: Doof at March 17, 2025 12:27 PM (Uq+qx)
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Followed by "git yer hands off me Lucky Charms!"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Sponge laddie ...
You're mixing your burr with your brogue
Posted by: browndog spreading chalk dust everywhere at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (TTAGa)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (AOsQT)
Alternate post subtitle:
Also: Trump fired the guy at the FAA who turns planes around mid-flight
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (9RB1C)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at
This ^^^
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (t/2Uw)
So what does some halfwit demi-judge have to do with any of this?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (KQk9m)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (LkLld)
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Makes you wonder how much Cartel money they've taken over the years.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (3JG7N)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (/U5Yz)
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And, lo and behold, it isn't even collecting social security. Still looks strong and turgid, in fact.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (BI5O2)
Posted by: Sponge
At the very least, "If'n yer gonna fondle me Lucky Charms, at least buy me dinner first!"
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (BLpWt)
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (xCA6C)
Haaaaaaaaa.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (VoAdT)
That is such a strange tack. How old is the law against murder?? Should we ignore it because its, like, so OOOLLLD?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (2VST1)
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We need new, improved laws against murder.
The old ones are too old.
Seriously, the problem with that point is that you get handwaving. "Of course, laws against murder are different--everybody knows..." They won't actually address the point that it means that there is something to be said for age-old laws.
It's funny, because the American court has actually argued that the "veneration" spoke of in the Federalist Papers requires adapting the interpretation of the law to the consciences of the age.
When that's not at all what "veneration" means.
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (2VST1)
Now, as far as that goes, its true: The US is not at war with anyone right now."
When Kavanaugh (iirc) was being interviewed to become SCOTUS, he was asked about "we are on a war footing, a war on terrorism". He said yes, so some could be tried in a military tribunal. afaik, we are still on that "war footing", so still "at war".
And at war specifically against terrorists like this and other gangs, that have infiltrated our borders.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (LkLld)
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Makes you wonder how much Cartel money they've taken over the years.
Posted by: ShainS
All that was offered.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (BLpWt)
Blind eye.
Telescope.
Some assembly required.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (6K6Eu)
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One arm or two?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (copfg)
@TrumpWarRoom
This was just posted to the official Border Patrol Instagram
https://tinyurl.com/ymcu4yd6
Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Jay in PA at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (i7Q7S)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Not really. Marbury was more about taunting the Jefferson administration for its admittedly unlawful actions. Marshall's opinion though was cleverly crafted so that Marbury literally had no court with jurisdiction to hear his writ of mandamus case.
Marshall court until his death never overturned another law of Congress. State laws due to the Supremacy clause, yes but no federal laws. Marshall also accepted humiliation in the case of Stuart v. Laird where the Judiciary Act of 1801 overturned the creation of judges in the Judiciary Act of 1800 (Marbury was part of those jobs). Marshall ruled that it was constitutional for the Court to roll back existing courts by deauthorizing them after they were established.
Basically, the Convention itself was divided over judicial review so they kicked the can. But, if you read a pre Marshall decision, Hylton v. US. They held the law constitutional but clearly indicated that if it wasn't, they could declare that too.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (/U5Yz)
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Or the head of a horse's ass.
Where's John F'ing Kerry when you need him? Paging James Taylor ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (3JG7N)
Posted by: Israel First at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (3e1iM)
Posted by: t-bird
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Put her on the next plane and lock her out of the cockpit.
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (LdsRU)
Which was always a threat anyway. The only thing standing in the way of this is popular vigilance.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (GD2xa)
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (GTThQ)
Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2025 12:34 PM (KQk9m)
Seems I remember Owebama telling one of those late night talk assholes that should he be able to, he'd have a 3rd term by telling a front man what to do.
Seems he did and autopen was his wingman.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
We should not.
However, in this case, the Judge is specifically precluded from his actions by the very same case law he cites.
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2025 12:22 PM (Q4IgG)
ACLU with 12 'anonymous' Defendents if early press accounts were accurate.
Yup, the American Communist League Union supplies the lawyers... hmmm... wonder if US Aid Money went to the ACLU?
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 17, 2025 12:25 PM (QAkQ3)
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I wonder if someone at the ACLU dreamed this up or if they were "prompted" to file a petition. And by "prompted" I mean paid.
So, when all's said and done reclaim the money spent on this shit show from the ACLU. Plus fees. Bankrupt them.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Sponge laddie ...
You're mixing your burr with your brogue
Posted by: browndog
Scotch-Irish in Appalachia.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM (BLpWt)
Posted by: Otto Pen - what thinks this party's starting at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (sJHOI)
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Because of all the democracy in the process of selecting lifetime appointments of people who write opinions into rule(ing)s.
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM (FLFV/)
Win: Biden's autopenned pardons are illegal, and Trump can bring suit against 1/6 committee members who destroyed evidence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:32 PM (GBKbO)
Compromise: You have to declare under oath what crimes you are being pardoned for, and while you are at it we need your co-conspirators and subordinates who carried out these illegal acts for you.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2025 12:38 PM (D7oie)
Because they know they are immune to consequences?
yeah, the federal judiciary is full of the same mindset.
Reading reports from these hearings, these judges are going way over the line for judicial conduct--outright condescending, insulting, antagonistic and openly hostile to the government.
While at the same time, treating the plaintiffs with the softest kid gloves and maximum deference.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 12:38 PM (7oyRZ)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:31 PM (2VST1)
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Did you see the meme Trump Re-tweeted? It's photos on the wall in the Oval office. The first is a regular photo of Trump that says 45. The next is a photo of the Auto Pen that says 46. And the third is Trump's Mug shot that says 47. Master Troll.
Posted by: Orson at March 17, 2025 12:38 PM (dIske)
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State Department, US 8 FAM 300, 301, 301.1
8 FAM 301.1-3 Not Included in the Meaning of "In the United States"
Posted by: L - No nick, another fine day at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (NFX2v)
btfw, Who The Fuck is this UNELECTED "judge" to make this decision?
Right?
Who ELECTED this "judge."
Right? We're supposed to despise & ignore "Unelected" people making big decisions, right?
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (9RB1C)
Posted by: Jay in PA at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (i7Q7S)
He's also all over Crossfire Hurricane. Was a Fisa judge during that.
Posted by: Reforger at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (xcIvR)
Posted by: WisRich at March 17, 2025 12:28 PM (G0vdT)
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His written order didn't even include the demand to turn the planes around.
He stirred up shit for absolutely no purpose other than to make himself look big and powerful. And now he's got a target on his back and could be a major chapter in the elimination of lower courts have much authority at all.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:29 PM (GBKbO)
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Yup. It's not uncommon for judges to shoot their mouths off at hearings -- many judges are dumber than dicks -- and then later think "wtf did I just say?"
I suspect this toady is looking for an exit ramp and will back down at the 4 pm hearing. Oh sure, he'll talk tough but in the end he'll back down. Which is why, if I was Trump's lawyers, I would not blast the judge out of the gate with "fuck off, faggot." I would pretend to indulge the judge's megalomania while politely explaining no written order was violated. If I'm right, Judge Fuckface will agree.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: browndog
Scotch-Irish in Appalachia.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM (BLpWt)
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You're right, it's more likely "gate yr honds"
(but even that comes about more Scottish)
Posted by: Axeman at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (krQz2)
With his hands in his pockets, one assumes.
Posted by: gKWVE at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (azDx7)
Another 80-20 issue the donkey commie are goaded and trolled into being on the wrong side of the American people.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (17s+e)
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at March 17, 2025 12:35 PM (copfg)
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He'd already lost the arm by the time he lost the eye, so, one.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (6K6Eu)
He is merely a Contrarian. He has no deeply held beliefs. He just likes to stake out the opposite side from any available interlocutor.
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 12:38 PM (7oyRZ)
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I believe this is referred to, in legal circles, as Tuesday.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Jay in PA
And he is balls deep in the whole FISA court illegalities committed by the Obama and Biden administrations regarding illegal surveillance. Both he and Beryl Howell, another asshole judge, allowed that shit to go on under their watch. Also allowed Jan 6 protesters to be jailed under the ridiculous obstruction charge that Scotus swatted away.
Dems made DC and DC Court of Appeals, its fortress of misjustice and have repeatedly dared Scotus to do something about it.
Judges there from Emmett Sullivan and other cavorting hacks in black have stained the whole reputation of the judiciary and the rule of law in this country. Worse than the 9th Circuit ever was.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (FLFV/)
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Bizarre.
Posted by: ... at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (lX8VI)
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it's much simpler than that
they are going to oppose every single thing that Trump does, every day, for the next 4 years, because he's Trump, and he beat them on Election Day
to the Left, it is simply inconceivable and unacceptable that they not be in power
this infuriates them, and drives them to extreme behavior
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (AOsQT)
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yup.
so common there's a nifty Latin term for it:
Void ab initio
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 12:40 PM (7oyRZ)
Bad time to be running a book tour, just after you cave and give BADORANGEMAN a win.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:40 PM (i24o9)
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8m
Federal Judge Orders Astronauts Be Returned To Space Station https://buff.ly/Pr4OiTT
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Emily Litella at March 17, 2025 12:40 PM (1FWWQ)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:40 PM (PzXaK)
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Bizarre.
Posted by: ... at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (lX8VI)
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One caveat: It's not their home countries. I believe they were all Venezuelan, and they are going to El Salvador for prison.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (GBKbO)
What a shocking, disruptive concept.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Solve sexual compatibility problems by not being whores at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (iv5Pb)
Posted by: nononeyouknowyouknow at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (oaPfe)
If Trump wanted to game the system he should get a bunch of these cases in front of friendly judges and have them all rule this way.
And let Roberts know if he disagrees Trump will not only ignore him but make Bondi get out of her Barbie Malibu House and publish Robert's Epstein Island vacation photoes
Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: pookysgirl will wait at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (Wt5PA)
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (gm9Sb)
Posted by: steevy at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (KQk9m)
This is how Ace got his 6 Pack.
Intermittent Fasting and Void Ab Initio. 3-5x a week.
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 12:41 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (FLFV/)
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I, too, think this is the case. Constitutional scholars can explain. And I mean real Constitutional scholars, not that bullshit flipper, Obama.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 17, 2025 12:42 PM (PMtkd)
If Dems want to impeach Trump over sending illegal gang bangers back to their home country, they certainly can.
Posted by: Leupold at March 17, 2025 12:42 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: Free tibet at March 17, 2025 12:42 PM (lXX7+)
Judges there from Emmett Sullivan and other cavorting hacks in black have stained the whole reputation of the judiciary and the rule of law in this country. Worse than the 9th Circuit ever was.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (ctrM5)
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If I was Trump and Congress, I would cancel/defund the DC circuit and the DC ct of app. There's no need for either, they can be folded into existing jurisdictions. They're not courts of law in any sense. They're cults of communism and Democrap activists.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
I would show up and waive my dick at him. That court and judge have no such authority over the POTUS. The role of the judiciary in these matters is zero and well established. Maybe Roberts should get up off his ass and reign in the lower courts, which have zero authority under the constitution. Right now the courts rate lower than syphillis. Do they want to go for dental surgery levels?
Posted by: Vengeance at March 17, 2025 12:26 PM (JmM3
That SOB Trump fixed GOPe good and proper. He's got the commie left on the ropes. And he's going to get the courts reformation going as well, I suspect.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:42 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Rand Paul couldn't even get a majority of Republican senators to cancel USAID funding in the CR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
More than a suit, an honest works charge (Enron law regarding destruction of documents for illicit purposes)/obstruction of an official government proceeding charges (law misapplied to Jan 6's but appropriate in this case) as Congress itself can refer those Jan 6'ers for violating House rules for retention of documents and refusing to hand over the password for existing files that are encrypted. They are obstructing Congressman Loudermilk's committee inquiry so that fits the statute for criminal actions. That is why the autopen pardoned them.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (ctrM5)
In the words of Willy Wonka:
No. Don't. Stop.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Solve sexual compatibility problems by not being whores at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (iv5Pb)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 17, 2025 12:37 PM
Umm..."feminists"?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (hOk1M)
Posted by: Federal Judges at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (9k8+1)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (PzXaK)
they are going to oppose every single thing that Trump does, every day, for the next 4 years, because he's Trump, and he beat them on Election Day
AND... he's systematically dismantling their machine, the infrastructure that guaranteed them money and power at the expense of the American people.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:44 PM (2VST1)
My understanding (still) is that a pardon can only be given to someone already convicted, or at least arrested/charged with a crime. Blanket pardons for "all crimes within the last ten years" is not a (real) thing.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2025 12:44 PM (Cus5s)
In the words of Willy Wonka:
No. Don't. Stop.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Solve sexual compatibility problems by not being whores at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (iv5Pb)
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If it ends the "SCOTUS will save us" delusion and refocuses voters on Congress to actually address shit, it'll be a step in the right direction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:44 PM (GBKbO)
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Oh.
A hearing.
That's disconcerting.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:44 PM (PzXaK)
Posted by: News from 1942 at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (t0Rmr)
Because the orders were getting so ridiculous and shrill.
Not measured and reasoned, well-founded upon somber analysis of relevant precedent and law.
But packed to the brim with feelings and "because I said so!"
This is like when the Dems were all strutting around at the peak of the 14th Amendment BS, cocksure they had disqualified Trump from the Presidency
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (7oyRZ)
Posted by: no one of any consequence at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (ZmEVT)
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (npXNI)
TL;DR Maher is a lazy, no-skills schlub who just wants to make a buck the easy way.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (rj6Yv)
At this point, Rand (and Ron) Paul are barely above Bernie Sanders on my Contempt Chart.
I don't buy any of their acts.
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (npXNI)
In this particular case, I believe the judge who should be called "Boastberg" rather than "Boasberg" is male- first name is James, so they are Judge "Ken" rather than Judge Karen
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (L7C/R)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
Sure, and they seem to show no sign or intention of letting up. They could do an about face tomorrow and spend the next year being pro-America, doing pro-America things, or at least not being bat-shit insane over BADORANGEMAN.
And I could wake up next to a milfy Kate Upton tomorrow.
This bodes well for 2026.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (FLFV/)
I just made that up (last night).
i used to have a calculator that stored programs on maga cartas.
Posted by: anachronda at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (oY6Yp)
Funny how it takes years for actual Americans to plead their case in front of a judge but some illegal gang leader gets to be in front of a federal judges in a few minutes.
Posted by: Leupold at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (4pwAx)
It's been described as plenary, but everything in Article 2 requires the President (a person) to act not an anonymous underling.
A left-leaning judge could cut off Bondi's DOJ from raising the issue but she'll have already presented prima facie evidence that Joe was unaware of the specific pardon that was granted.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (Gqoy+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Not necessary, get the CR passed to fund remainder of the year then you can file recission bills (or one giant recission bill) where House and Senate pass a resolution of recission (no filibuster in the Senate btw) that removes all identified DOGE cuts at once. Think that is the game plan here. Cannot pass a recission bill until the spending bill is passed from my memory of it. This was passed by the Gingrich Congress after the Line Item Veto act was declared unconstitutional. This recission resolution avoids the presentment clause difficulties. Clinton signed it.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Megthered at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (wCr+o)
Posted by: Long night...lifted at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (/U5Yz)
They've pretty much, in politispeak, told this shithead to fuck right off.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2025 12:42 PM (iFTx/)
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Rand Paul couldn't even get a majority of Republican senators to cancel USAID funding in the CR.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (GBKbO)
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Well, I did say "if I were ...." Trump probably has the balls too. The dickless GOP in Congress? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 17, 2025 12:47 PM (iFTx/)
Fuck you. Go get your shine box."
Posted by: no one of any consequence at March 17, 2025 12:47 PM (ZmEVT)
...a lazy, no-skills schlub who just wants to make a buck the easy way.
*throws a dog at you*
Posted by: Hanania at March 17, 2025 12:47 PM (azDx7)
In addition, the new "guests" are Venezuelan, not El Salvadoran. My guess is that the newbies will not receive a warm welcome.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2025 12:47 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (L7C/R)
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I say we tattoo "Uncle Bosie" on his forehead and drop him out of a plane over New Guinea.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:47 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 12:39 PM (9RB1C)
Yeah. We are.
Our Constitution was specifically designed to get rid of the onerous burden of English Common Law. Our founders said " does precedent law ever suck balls, or what? We should have some kind of iron law that overrides all others so that we're not being lorded over by faggots in powdered wigs."
And then, the Federalists immediately crammed that square peg into a round hole, and we're dealing with consequences ever since. They would have crowned a king if they could, too. They wanted to, and didn't hide it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2025 12:47 PM (BI5O2)
About time President Trump told a Judge to screw off
Posted by: Skip at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (ER8Ca)
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:45 PM (rj6Yv)
Me too!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (VoAdT)
Implicitly they have to be pardoned for specific crimes as well the notion of Biden's "whatever" pardons is absurd
Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (t0Rmr)
Posted by: Long night...lifted at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (2NXcZ)
tasted like soap to me
JMO, YMMV
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (AOsQT)
I don't get this one.
Seaweed, sure. Like liking an ashtray, maybe. Soap?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (ExV1e)
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Oh.
A hearing.
That's disconcerting.
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What's the legal equivalent of showing up for the hearing and asserting the equivalent of "We don't wish to participate in this farce--make you're ruling and we'll be appealing 10 minutes after you issue it."
Posted by: Crusader at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (TN0g+)
who would have thought that a piece of shit who routinely broke or ignored the law would CONTINUE to break or ignore the law?
Don't worry, Schumer will step up to the camera and give a very stern look over his red rimmed drug store reading glasses before caving again. Collins used to tweet about every other day up until a month and half ago, she hasn’t tweeted in six weeks, has someone done a wellness check on her?
Quickly deporting hundreds or thousands of violent gang members of the Tren de Aragua and MS-13 gangs will be enormously popular with voters. The details of the timing against a federal judge’s limited written order will be irrelevant.
If Democrats do anything that can be seen as going to bat for violent undocumented gang members, it will be yet another example of how out of touch Democrats are.
Totally agree. The Dem message should focus just on Trump ignoring a court order, triggering yet another constitutional crisis.
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (PMtkd)
Posted by: Piper at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (pRpzT)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (t0Rmr)
We have some suitcase and nuke codes that travel everywhere with the president, but somehow he can't sign a document.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Solve sexual compatibility problems by not being whores at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (iv5Pb)
I'm guessing Trump is gaining popularity as the left's Protect Every Foreign Terrorist expands from Gaza to domestic drug dealers and rapists.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (Cus5s)
His dad was even worse. He'd talk a good talk and vote against funding bills, but because he knew they would pass, would earmark tons of stuff for his district.
And I could wake up next to a milfy Kate Upton tomorrow.
So you're saying there's a chance?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2025 12:44 PM (Cus5s)
They keep pointing at Ford and Nixon, and Carter and the draft dodgers, but honestly all that Ford and Carter were doing was to tell everyone to screw off, they weren't going to allow a prosecution
Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (VoAdT)
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (rj6Yv)
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That needs to be in the next middle school level Civics textbook.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (PzXaK)
See Curtiss Wright Export v. US for Sutherland's opinion that the president is the SOLE organ for national defense/diplomacy. FDR was acting on the basis of the Neutrality Act but Sutherland opined was not really necessary except to criminal charge Curtiss Wright. The exports could be banned directly by FDR simply on constitutional powers alone.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:30 PM (ctrM5)
He seems to be acting as if he is informed of sound legal advice.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (zay7X)
Ford pardoned Nixon before charges, but it wasn't a blanket pardon.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (Gqoy+)
If Democrats do anything that can be seen as going to bat for violent undocumented gang members, it will be yet another example of how out of touch Democrats are.
How did this one makw it through ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (VE6XX)
Posted by: Long night...lifted at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (VoAdT)
The man does have an audience, I'll grant that.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM
Autocucumber mocks us.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (hOk1M)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissi
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"Also, Biden was great for ignoring orders from SCOTUS to stop forgiving student loan debt."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (GBKbO)
The man does have an audience, I'll grant that.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (rj6Yv)
And somehow, he used to bang Playmates.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
Well at least one of them at the DU isn't entirely stupid and insane.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:51 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 17, 2025 12:50 PM (Gqoy+)
It was a pillow pardon.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:51 PM (rj6Yv)
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Oh.
A hearing.
That's disconcerting.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:44 PM (PzXaK)
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They strongly-worded hearing.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:51 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: illiniwek
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Not really much action on that via federal caselaw on pardons because no one has abused it like the Biden junta did. But, two instances are Carter's mass pardon of Vietnam draft evaders which address one specific crime (similar to Washington's general pardon of the Whisky Rebellion types). Another is the Nixon pardon by Gerald Ford which addressed a range of potential uncharged crimes committed by one man during his presidency. Unfortunately, I think Hunter's falls more on the Nixon precedent (one would have difficulty challenging it (of course there is the autopen issue and competence of the president), but notice he is not pardoned nor can he be for state crimes nor future crimes committed after the pardon date.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:51 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: What Trump's Law Team Should Say at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (dgRL6)
Posted by: It's me donna at March
It’s KOS v. DU. Every now and again, a thought actually happens over there!
Posted by: Piper at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (pRpzT)
Then the HOA said I couldn't host Halloween Parties any longer.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (PzXaK)
Oh, the beat-down they are going to get.
That clause only means one thing:
The Executive--and the Executive alone--has the power to enforce the law.
Execute, if you will as that is the exact word used by the Founders; "take care to faithfully execute" the laws passed by the Legislative.
Not the Judicial. Not the Legislative.
The Executive.
But these courts are reading it as "take care to enact the will of the Legislative via their legislation." An absurd interpretation that not only strains plain English but swallows up the whole of Article II--making the Executive a mere administrator who must dutifully and exactly follow the will of Congress.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (7oyRZ)
LMAO, suck it, Schumer.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (i24o9)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at March 17, 2025 12:36 PM (GD2xa)
The only thing standing in the way of this is the justifiable fear of the many firearms held by Americans.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (ExV1e)
It was a pillow pardon.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 12:51 PM (rj6Yv)
This is about me, isn't it......
Posted by: David Hogg at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2025 12:49 PM (t0Rmr)
Boasberg was the cork soaker who gave Clinesmith community service for lying on a FISA subpoena, correct? Or was it 1 year suspension of law license?
Posted by: nononeyouknowyouknow at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (oaPfe)
No jurisdiction?
These dumb fucks think and member of the Judicial Branch may direct edicts at any member of the Executive Branch and demand compliance.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (zay7X)
Posted by: Diogenes at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (W/lyH)
Not true. Always go to the original text, which is,
"Now, Therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from January 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974."
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
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And Ann Coulter!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (VoAdT)
That's how the Russians do it. Probably copied from them.
Posted by: Archimedes at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (xCA6C)
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8m
Federal Judge Orders Astronauts Be Returned To Space Station https://buff.ly/Pr4OiTT
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:40 PM (AOsQT)
Wait, wut?
Someone's Goldberging from the Bee, or the Bee is Goldberging from here.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (i24o9)
LMAO, suck it, Schumer.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:52 PM (i24o9)
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"I'm worried that Schumer might lose his election. I know I trust the polls, but things just seem to tight for my comfort level. We need Schumer to ensure Kamala's priorities get through the Senate!"
-DU, circa October 2028
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (GBKbO)
Uh yeah A-holes that's the level of evil bastards we are dealing with. Cartel leadership kill judges, prosecutors and break out their gang members like candy...
This is like a live version of the movie Sicario....only 263 times better!
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It! at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (37aB+)
And Ann Coulter!
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:53 PM (bFfr9)
With that neck, I'm betting she can DT like a champ!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:54 PM (Zz0t1)
Trump should have the FBI check the geolocation tags on Hunter's videos with minors and farm those out to the states (unfortunately I'm guessing it will be DE, CA, and NY) but then also prosecute Hunter for any such crimes that occurred outside the US.
Make a court save Hunter on pedo-charges because Biden pardoned him.
Then go after the pardons as a whole any only talk about Hunter's pedo-charges
Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2025 12:54 PM (t0Rmr)
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That was all very traumatic. They also pulled, squeezed my head.
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2025 12:54 PM (Hpgos)
tasted like soap to me
JMO, YMMV
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 12:33 PM (AOsQT)
I don't get this one.
Seaweed, sure. Like liking an ashtray, maybe. Soap?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (ExV1e)
Cilantro infused scotch?
Posted by: Count de Monet at March 17, 2025 12:54 PM (Aqu9a)
That fargin' bastage. That sumamabench!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:54 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:40 PM (PzXaK)
*camera pans up to Trump standing over him with a baseball bat*
Trump: "He does now."
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at March 17, 2025 12:54 PM (i24o9)
"One of the biggest scams we've uncovered is that the government can give money to so called non profit with very few controls and there's no auditing of that non profit."
Posted by: Braenyard - some Absent Friends are more equal than others _ at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (LdsRU)
Posted by: It's me donna
This is from Daily Kos, but I posted similar comments from DU in an earlier thread. They're (at least, some of them) slowly realizing they're on the wrong side of many 80/20 issues, and maybe they should be a little more selective on what they become outraged about. Fighting tooth and nail to stop the deportations of illegal alien members of a violent international criminal organization is not a good look.
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (JCZqz)
WTFF??
Quickly deporting hundreds or thousands of violent gang members of the Tren de Aragua and MS-13 gangs will be enormously popular with voters. The details of the timing against a federal judge’s limited written order will be irrelevant.
If Democrats do anything that can be seen as going to bat for violent undocumented gang members, it will be yet another example of how out of touch Democrats are.
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Totally agree. The Dem message should focus just on Trump ignoring a court order, triggering yet another constitutional crisis.
Totally agree! We just need to figure out how to GASLIGHT The People!
These fucking people....
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (9RB1C)
Trump should send that kid the new SS agent to represent!
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It! at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (37aB+)
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:43 PM (PzXaK)
I hope the Democrats choose this hill to die on.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (L5An7)
Posted by: one hour sober at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: Crusader at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (TN0g+)
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Reenact the hearing scene in Animal House?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (bFfr9)
Seaweed, sure. Like liking an ashtray, maybe. Soap?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (ExV1e)
Single Malt Cilantro ...
Posted by: browndog spreading chalk dust everywhere at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (TTAGa)
But the blanket Ford gave Nixon was for only his term in office, and only for Nixon personally.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (Gqoy+)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Key part, if you are a textualist, laws means both statutory and common law, law means statutory only. Article II uses the plural laws which would imply both common law and statutory law.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (ctrM5)
Trump should send that kid the new SS agent to represent!
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It! at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (37aB+)
"Get me Big Balls........"
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Megthered at March 17, 2025 12:46 PM
Up until doge and Trump the taxpayers were funding all of this $hit.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (e5NfL)
Totally agree. The Dem message should focus just on Trump ignoring a court order, triggering yet another constitutional crisis.
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at March 17, 2025 12:48 PM (JCZqz)
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Yes. Inside baseball about the intricacies of following unpopular court orders will galvanize the proletariat, comrade.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (GBKbO)
I've been pointing out that non-profits have primarily been scams for years now.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (t0Rmr)
Democrats think they can solve all their problems by either killing/imprisoning their enemies, or do a better job at Gaslighting.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 12:57 PM (9RB1C)
That's how the Russians do it. Probably copied from them.
Posted by: Archimedes
Harder to fight back/start shit when you are bent over. Plus, it provides the killing blow/back of neck if necessary.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 12:57 PM (BLpWt)
Posted by: Pudinhead at March 17, 2025 12:57 PM (Hpgos)
Impeachment.
And that is solely reserved to Congress.*
Not the courts. There simply is no basis that permits the courts to order the President to do ... anything.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 12:57 PM (7oyRZ)
Marvel has put out 33 movies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 12:58 PM (2VST1)
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at March 17, 2025 12:58 PM (2VMYz)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 17, 2025 12:55 PM (L5An7)
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They're gonna go full child-mutilation, -sexualization, and -rape/pedo retard.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 12:58 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at March 17, 2025 12:59 PM (5M/Mg)
Marvel has put out 33 movies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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I knew there were a lot, but I had no idea there were THAT many.
Ugh.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at March 17, 2025 12:59 PM (PzXaK)
Also. It was a consolation prize for the Coups that cost him his Presidency.
I can't take it as Precedent.
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 12:59 PM (npXNI)
Posted by: Ignoramus
State caselaw which does not necessarily apply have done things like not reverse illegal pardons made by a bribed Governor (TN--Ray Blanton), held limits to specific charges or time limits, etc.
Simply put though is that the President's pardon power has been regarded similar to the former King's power (just like sovereign immunity was inherited from British law) as absolute in nature. Part of the issue in challenging them would be statutory standing where how can one be harmed by Hunter Biden's pardon from past acts. Difficult to do and thus easy for Dred Justice Roberts to issue his no standing decision.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:59 PM (ctrM5)
NEW: Judge Boasberg just scheduled a 4pm hearing this afternoon and is demanding answers from Trump adm on questions presented in today's ACLU filing on behalf of Venezuelan terrorists
https://tinyurl.com/mkabu2yn
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It! at March 17, 2025 12:59 PM (37aB+)
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Should show up and arrest him for deprivation of civil rights under color of law, and toss in some kiddie pron while they are at it (classic deepstate marker, that way he knows he is fucked).
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at March 17, 2025 01:00 PM (zay7X)
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 01:00 PM (npXNI)
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at March 17, 2025 12:58 PM (2VMYz)
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And/or Epstein videos?
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 01:00 PM (bFfr9)
Republicans are never ruled to have standing in DC Fed Courts. Any bum off the street is no doubt ruled to have standing by Boasberg, Tanya Chutkan, Beryl Howell, and so on, if they file a plea to stop any action by PDT and all other Republicans.
Posted by: Gref at March 17, 2025 01:00 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: WisRich at March 17, 2025 01:01 PM (G0vdT)
...and I mistakenly saw one of them.
Posted by: garrett at March 17, 2025 01:00 PM (npXNI)
How can I miss Marvel if they won't go away?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 17, 2025 01:01 PM (VoAdT)
Baby due in June.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 17, 2025 01:01 PM (NpAcC)
Eh, since this judge (and others) doesn't seem to understand the written word of the Constitution,
he needs to be impeached and thrown out of office.
That happens a few times and this nonsense will stop.
We can't have a judiciary run by lunatic partisans who make unconstitutional rulings every time a bug crawls up their ass.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 17, 2025 01:01 PM (iJfKG)
Posted by: 18-1 at March 17, 2025 12:56 PM (t0Rmr)
I think the most astounding factoid on the DOGE activity was Musk stating that the Treasury Dept. sent checks with ZERO authorization references on the check. That made payments essentially untraceable for auditing purposes.
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 01:01 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (2pmd5)
LOL, you've all seen the recent TV ads of ACLU begging for donations, right?
I wonder how their shithead donors really feel about their $$ going to bring back foreign heinous gang members.
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (9RB1C)
Posted by: whig
But, as with the king, the KING must issue it. Not the King's Hand without the King's knowledge.
And that's what some aid did. Not even the VP, but the Groom of the Stool.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (BLpWt)
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 01:01 PM (rj6Yv)
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For America!
*tear down cheek. bald eagle cries out. American flag waves in background*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: garrett
Courts will. Just as they will regarding Washington's pardon of Whisky Rebellion participants, Carter's blanket pardon of Vietnam draft evaders, etc.
The courts have a number of ways to discard challenges to pardons based on justiciability such as no standing, political question, or mootness in some cases (if the statute of limitations already applied to potential charges).
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: long night...lifted at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: Soothsayer at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (9RB1C)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 17, 2025 01:02 PM (2VST1)
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair
Today, around 4:30 pm.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (BLpWt)
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It's like that one scene in Malcolm in the Middle where Hal spends weeks painting the wall-sized abstract in the garage.
And they're standing there admiring the final product.
Just before the foot-thick wall of wet paint crashes down on them.
That's the judiciary--they've painted, and painted, and painted, and painted over the thinnest of justifications.
And their whole wall of paint is teetering and swaying now ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (7oyRZ)
Tell me I'm wrong.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at March 17, 2025 12:58 PM (2VMYz
Great minds.
yes a cartel payroll
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It! at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (37aB+)
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As mentioned... we, the taxpayers ultimately pay for this shit. What needs to happen is two fold;
One: demand a bond of substantial amounts to be forfeited upon the case being dropped or the petitioning party loses.
Two: Bankrupt the petitioners regardless of the outcome
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (Q4IgG)
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so a district court judge seeks to call the President of the United States onto the carpet and EXPLAIN HIMSELF TO THIS COURT!
This has to stop, and SCOTUS has to do it
confidence is low
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (AOsQT)
Posted by: haffhowershower at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (jPK7o)
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Newt Gingrich on Judicial Activism: This ‘Last Castle of Left-Wing Nutism’ is a ‘Fundamental Assault on the Constitutional Order’
AKA an "Extinction Burst" Tantrum [h/t Bongino]
Posted by: ShainS -- The Dissolution of The Autopen Empire at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (bFfr9)
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 12:59 PM (ctrM5)
Isn't Trump setting up the argument that the pardons aren't valid because someone in effect forged Biden's signature without his knowledge? And why would someone have to prove "harm", why can't the DoJ just start prosecutions, by accepting pardons, they've already declared their guilt. Then they have to fight it out in court, and the process becomes the punishment.
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2025 01:04 PM (9221z)
Posted by: long night...lifted at March 17, 2025 01:04 PM (2NXcZ)
Posted by: Gref at March 17, 2025 01:00 PM (aBgBM)
Dems have made judge-shopping a science. They are very lucky in their district picks (wink wink nod nod).
Posted by: mrp at March 17, 2025 01:04 PM (rj6Yv)
That judge was getting really spicy with the government.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at March 17, 2025 01:04 PM (7oyRZ)
Posted by: long night...lifted at March 17, 2025 01:04 PM (2NXcZ)
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Is that why Roberts ruled in favor of Trump in Hawaii v Trump?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to the finish with Corman at March 17, 2025 01:05 PM (GBKbO)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 17, 2025 01:05 PM (BI5O2)
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And Ann Coulter!
Dude's got range. Gotta give him credit for that.
Posted by: Oddbob at March 17, 2025 01:05 PM (/y8xj)
It's way worse than lemmings, and funny as hell to watch.
MOAR PLEASE
Willowed: I canceled my WSJ subscription with malice early in the illegal reign of the Kenyan.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at March 17, 2025 01:05 PM (MkuC5)
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at March 17, 2025 01:05 PM (VNX3d)
"“A man in my position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous!”"
Boasberg will be made to look ridiculous at the hearing he demanded.
Posted by: Ignoramus at March 17, 2025 01:06 PM (Gqoy+)
And that's what some aid did. Not even the VP, but the Groom of the Stool.
Posted by: rickb223
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I can see Scotus doing something like they did in Fletcher v. Peck. Basically during the Yazoo Land Fraud, the GA legislature and governor were bribed by land speculators to sell GA lands to them far below market price. New GA government after elections repudiated the whole deal and revoked the grants. Some people bought land from the speculators before that happened and sought to keep their land. Scotus baldly stated that even if the legislature was corrupt; the contract remained in effect and the purchasers got to keep their lands. Bad decision in my estimation but Scotus will often accept injustice or law breaking if opening that up allows for all kinds of challenges to every official act of the Biden administration.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 01:06 PM (ctrM5)
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so a district court judge seeks to call the President of the United States onto the carpet and EXPLAIN HIMSELF TO THIS COURT!
This has to stop, and SCOTUS has to do it
confidence is low
Posted by: Don Black at March 17, 2025 01:03 PM (AOsQT)
That'll be fun, because the Trump team released a timeline showing where the planes were when the order was issued. So there's not much he can do, as his authority ends at the waters edge. (more likely the districts border, but let's go with his delusion of grandeur).
Posted by: Iblis at March 17, 2025 01:06 PM (9221z)
What are you going to do about it, tough guy? You want answers? You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Son, we live in a country that need walls, beautiful walls. And those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? Tim Walz? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Tren de Aragua and you curse ICE. You have that luxury...
Posted by: Donald J Trump at March 17, 2025 01:07 PM (JCZqz)
boom
AG Pam Bondi Files Emergency Motion with DC Circuit to Halt ‘Illegal Order’ by Obama-Appointed Judge Jeb Boasberg, Alleging Sabotage of Presidency
Rep. Brandon Gill Moves to Impeach Obama Judge James Boasberg for Blocking Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act
Trump Administration Defiantly Tells Radical Judge to Pound Sand Following Controversial Ruling
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It! at March 17, 2025 01:08 PM (37aB+)
Posted by: Iblis
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Very possible if charges are filed against someone like Hunter or the Jan 6 Committee members like Liz Cheney.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 01:09 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It! at March 17, 2025 01:09 PM (37aB+)
Posted by: I'm Gumby Dmn It!
The two yuges.
Posted by: Bulg at March 17, 2025 01:10 PM (77rzZ)
Posted by: WisRich
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Scotus ruled that repeatedly and this judge knows that. See Curtiss Wright Export v. US for example in the 1930's regarding the Neutrality Act granting FDR powers to cut off arms sales to warring countries. Similar in that the Alien Enemies Act grants similar power for a President to thwart invasions.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 01:12 PM (ctrM5)
So the J6 persecutors may have that kind of pardon as well. But states or others can still pursue legal cases?
And our FBI could still investigate and uncover more evidence of criminal acts by The Committee.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2025 01:12 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: illiniwek at March 17, 2025 01:13 PM (Cus5s)
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It was reported on Newsmax that this judge just barely won his seat, and that after the election he bragged about being a Muslim judge!
Posted by: Chillin the ost at March 17, 2025 01:14 PM (Ofe5D)
Make a court save Hunter on pedo-charges because Biden pardoned him.
Then go after the pardons as a whole any only talk about Hunter's pedo-charges
Posted by: 18-1
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Yep. he can do that.
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 01:15 PM (ctrM5)
And our FBI could still investigate and uncover more evidence of criminal acts by The Committee.
Posted by: illiniwek
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Yep. It also may not address civil actions against the J6 persecutors (but they have other immunities that can make that difficult to actually do).
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 01:16 PM (ctrM5)
"Therefore be it known that I, George Washington, President of the said United States, have granted, and by these presents do grant, a full, free, and entire pardon to all persons (excepting as is hereinafter excepted) of all treasons, misprisions of treason, and other indictable offenses against the United States committed within the fourth survey of Pennsylvania before the said 22d day of August last past, excepting and excluding therefrom, nevertheless, every person who refused or neglected to give and subscribe the said assurances in the manner aforesaid (or having subscribed hath violated the same) and now standeth indicted or convicted of any treason, misprision of treason, or other offense against the said United States, hereby remitting and releasing unto all persons, except as before excepted, all penalties incurred, or supposed to be incurred, for or on account of the premises."
Posted by: whig at March 17, 2025 01:21 PM (ctrM5)
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at March 17, 2025 01:23 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: The Dark Lord at March 17, 2025 01:32 PM (DBAaD)
Posted by: The Dark Lord at March 17, 2025 01:35 PM (DBAaD)
Posted by: The Dark Lord at March 17, 2025 01:38 PM (DBAaD)
However, that used to be the opinion about Presidential impeachments, right up to Clinton
Posted by: Kindltot at March 17, 2025 01:41 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Danimal28 at March 17, 2025 01:43 PM (1E4GV)
Posted by: Been there done that at March 17, 2025 01:56 PM (7rBby)
Posted by: Bombadil at March 17, 2025 02:07 PM (MX0bI)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 17, 2025 02:18 PM (BLpWt)
Put the judge in the cockpit and say, "do it yourself!" as you parachute away.
Posted by: t-bird at March 17, 2025 02:31 PM (lCA8w)
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