SecDef Hegseth: We're Investigating Milley's Leaking and Gross Insubordination of the Chain of Command and We Might Demote Him

Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
BREAKING: Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is ordering an investigation into General Mark Milley, pulling Milley's security detail and clearance "immediately," Milley may face demotion in retirement, and a second portrait of Milley was removed - Fox

The evidence that he elevated himself to illegal caudillo acting as president without constitutional authority is hard to refute -- he openly bragged about doing so.

He told the Communist Chinese Government that he would warn them in advance of any action Trump might take against them. And he was so proud of this treason that he immediately told his media palz about it, so that his Heroism could be praised throughout the leftwing media.

There's also the small matter of him scheming to block the deployment of the National Guard on January 6th, 2021, and then covering up his actions.

"In a pair of secret phone calls, Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, assured his Chinese counterpart, Gen. Li Zuocheng of the PLA, that the U.S. would not strike, according to a new book by Bob Woodward & Robert Costa."https://t.co/JCFL5PDeTF pic.twitter.com/IheGZecFEb
— Jerry Dunleavy IV 🇺🇸 (@JerryDunleavy) September 14, 2021

Milley claims “at no time was I attempting to change or influence the process, usurp authority or insert myself in the chain of command” — but Woodward described him as “pulling a Schlesinger” i.e. ordering officials not to follow direct orders from the president. pic.twitter.com/g6OEzuiPrO
— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) September 28, 2021

🚨 NEW STATEMENT issued by Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth - Fox

“If you actively undermined the chain of command, as General Milley did under the previous Trump administration, we are going to review those actions administratively inside the Defense Department."

"Mark Milley… pic.twitter.com/iQkpa1l6Jr
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) January 29, 2025

Posted by: Ace at 01:10 PM

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1 Hegseth seems centered.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 01:12 PM (tT6L1)

2 What an asshole.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 01:12 PM (bss/y)

3 Can't court martial him, but they can reduce him in rank.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 30, 2025 01:12 PM (2UnvF)

4 Thoroughly Modern Milley

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:13 PM (v0R5T)

5 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at January 30, 2025 01:13 PM (GYt5+)

6 I want to see Milley bleat in outrage as he's demoted.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 01:14 PM (tT6L1)

7 Ffs.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:14 PM (E0r6f)

8 he was so proud of this treason

Can't court martial him, but they can reduce him in rank.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
......

He could be hanged?

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

9 Let the dogs out on these traitorous scum.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 01:14 PM (Cus5s)

10 He CAN be recalled to active duty and court-martialed.

And should be.

Posted by: Grayman27 at January 30, 2025 01:15 PM (pgwxJ)

11 And he was a middle of the road General. /sarc

Posted by: DaveA at January 30, 2025 01:15 PM (FhXTo)

12 Clowns to the left of me, jokers to my right...

Posted by: Roy at January 30, 2025 01:15 PM (z+ik4)

13 Is General Mark Milley a traitor, YES OR NO?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 01:15 PM (D7oie)

14 Is Woodward believable now?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (63Dwl)

15 Can Sec Dev remove all of Generalissimo'a fake-ass ribbons too?

Posted by: Heavy Meta at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (NgqoH)

16 He is a disgrace to the uniform he so gaudily decorated.

Posted by: javems at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (8I4hW)

17
Om.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (6K6Eu)

18
Enjoy peeling potatoes, General Milley!

Sorry. PRIVATE Milley.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (dxSpM)

19 Can't they recall Milley to service and give him some unpleasant duty until he quits and goes AWOL and then court martial him?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (aD39U)

20 he was so proud of this treason

Can't court martial him, but they can reduce him in rank.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
......

He could be hanged?
Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

Freeze him in carbonite, as an example for the next ten generations?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (VNX3d)

21 Dammit, I'm gonna have to call my doctor again in 4 hours.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (YRLP/)

22 Put Private Milley on KP.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (E0r6f)

23 But is wasn't treason-treason 'cause of the "Trump is Literally Hitler" clause of the Constitution.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (EiR50)

24 Learn to peel spuds.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (63Dwl)

25 GOOD

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (M/21K)

26 Hey Ace, in related news...

https://is.gd/R8h3X5

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (ExV1e)

27 Why does Milley have an arrow award pointing down?

Is that a "Look what I won in a box of Cracker Jacks" or something?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (Cp5Ma)

28 Branded! Scorned as a man who ran...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (6K6Eu)

29 Willowed:

Example: avoid plastic surgery because you think it will make you look younger.
Posted by: Archimedes

Just saw a preview for a Meg Ryan Superbowl ad.

Her plastic surgery is just starting to not be creepy 15 years later.
Posted by: Auspex at January 30, 2025 01:10 PM (j4U/Z)

I wonder if someone's figured out how to reverse or correct terrible plastic surgery because it seems a fair number of stars, etc who had bad plastic surgery are suddenly looking human again.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (iJfKG)

30

Can Sec Dev remove all of Generalissimo'a fake-ass ribbons too?
Posted by: Heavy Meta at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (NgqoH)

________

Oh, no! Not his Distinguished Power Point Presentation Cross!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (dxSpM)

31 Charge Milley with treason and let him play the "pardon" card... accept his guilty pleasure, strip him to E-1. Put him against wall, blindfold... "congrats, traitor, you been pardoned" then airdrop* out of a Blackhawk to the 3rd world shit hole of his choice.

*fast rope is acceptable

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (QYV9/)

32 Bust his rank to E-1

Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (V7x+u)

33 Do they make rope strong enough for his bulk?

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (v0R5T)

34 14 Is Woodward believable now?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (63Dwl)

Woodward only writes what he is told.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (D7oie)

35 Freeze him in carbonite, as an example for the next ten generations?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (VNX3d)

New cadet: Why does Milley have a statue here at West Point.

Upperclassman: That IS Milley.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (aD39U)

36
Buck Private Mark A Milley has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (iJfKG)

37 Private Milley has a nice ring.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (cjAAr)

38 Hope Milley makes a run for it. Would be entertaining to see how far he gets before being shot down. In flames.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (Q4IgG)

39 We need to revisit the bowe Bergdahl shit too

Posted by: nckate at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (4bYb7)

40 Goooolleee! Is Sgt. Carter ever goin' ta ream his ass out!!!

Posted by: PVT. GOMER PYLE at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (wtvvX)

41 He CAN be recalled to active duty and court-martialed.

And should be.

==

He can ?

Posted by: runner at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (g47mK)

42 >37 Private Milley has a nice ring.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (cjAAr)

Thoroughly Meh Milley...

Posted by: Heavy Meta at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (NgqoH)

43 I may sill have my Scp-4 pins around if Milley needs to borrow them

Posted by: 29Victor at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (TL7UX)

44 Excellent!

Like that the people he schemed with are NOT covered by a pardon.

Does Biden’s pardon cover court martial?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (Hkcdp)

45 Was Milley ever a war fighter or was he a perfumed prince who talked a good game?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (tT6L1)

46 30

Can Sec Dev remove all of Generalissimo'a fake-ass ribbons too?
Posted by: Heavy Meta at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (NgqoH)

________

Oh, no! Not his Distinguished Power Point Presentation Cross!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (dxSpM)

With oak leaf clusterfuck!!!

Posted by: PVT. GOMER PYLE at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (wtvvX)

47 He CAN be recalled to active duty and court-martialed.

Unless you find that he committed crimes outside the time period of his pardon, no, he cannot. Military law differs from civilian law but Presidential pardons still work there.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (ExV1e)

48 28 Branded! Scorned as a man who ran...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (6K6Eu)

I thought of that. But it seems somehow insulting to Chuck Conners.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (bss/y)

49 Carbonite is too good for him

Freeze dried

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (Cp5Ma)

50 [/loose shit]

Posted by: Ned Beatty, Mayor of Otisburg at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (Ybyk2)

51 He told the Communist Chinese Government that he would warn them in advance of any action Trump might take against them. And he was so proud of this treason that he immediately told his media palz about it, so that his Heroism could be praised throughout the leftwing media.

There's also the small matter of him scheming to block the deployment of the National Guard on January 6th, 2021, and then covering up his actions. - Ace

Milley was convinced that Donald Trump didn't have a chance to win the election. The stupid ass should never have been promoted past O-5. Playing footsie with Pelosi and White House version of the Three Stooges is an automatic disqualifier.

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

52 Mark Milley, it is the judgement of this court that you be reduced in rank to E-2, and spend the remaining four years of your enlistment washing diapers for the Fort Dix laundry.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at January 30, 2025 01:20 PM (VNX3d)

53 I think some of you are developing unrealistic expectations. They won't hurt Milley, other than to document his treason. This is a truth and reconciliation committee.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 30, 2025 01:20 PM (xCA6C)

54 He'd be good at KP because he never missed a meal.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:20 PM (v0R5T)

55 He's a radical!

Charlie Kirk@charliekirk11
Kash Patel with a mic drop moment responding to Democrat Sen. Whitehouse:
"The only thing that will matter if confirmed is a deweaponized, depoliticized system of law enforcement, completely devoted to rigorous obedience to the Constitution and a singular standard of justice."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 01:20 PM (L/fGl)

56 We MUST prosecute Milley. This is the only way to prevent these arrogant assholes from making policy that always puts America second.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (PMtkd)

57 He has the CIB so yes he did 'see' combat. Along with the jump wings and ranger tab and all the other salad dressing

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (Cp5Ma)

58 Can't they recall Milley to service and give him some unpleasant duty until he quits and goes AWOL and then court martial him?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 30, 2025 01:16 PM (aD39U)

I think that "we recalled you because we wanted to fuck with you" would be more detrimental to the US military than letting Milley go free.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (ExV1e)

59 36
Buck Private Mark A Milley has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (iJfKG)

37 Private Milley has a nice ring.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM

Hordemind! Beautiful and terrible.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (Wnv9h)

60 This is the problem with the old "always respect the men in uniform" attitude of, well lets say prior generations.

Its just a uniform. Inside it ? Just a man. Sometimes honest, sometimes a scoundrel. The more rank ? In peacetime, a pretty good indicator of scoundrel.

And you'd think, as such great readers of history, this wouldn't be a hard lesson. History books are full of tyrants with prior military service.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (JcRjn)

61
He's about to be referred to as "former 3 star general".

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (+oR7L)

62 Milley is a traitor, and no, whatever he did prior to his treason mitigates even a fraction of it. Benedict Arnold had 'an honorable record' beforehand too.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (CwhoI)

63 New for '66... The WIDETRAC BONNEVILLE

Posted by: Life of Wryly at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (1FWWQ)

64 /Sings

He is the very model of a Modern Major General...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (QAkQ3)

65 Freeze him in carbonite, as an example for the next ten generations?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

Same thing as putting him a big lucite block like a tarantula.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (QYV9/)

66 10 He CAN be recalled to active duty and court-martialed.

And should be.
Posted by: Grayman27

A court martial is a legal proceeding/conviction, so I'm assuming his Biden pardon will protect him. I don't think he could be administratively demoted, either, without some kind of legal action. He could be recalled to Active Duty, but he'd draw his pretty significant pay and be more trouble than it'd be worth.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (R0KN+)

67 Excellent!
Like that the people he schemed with are NOT covered by a pardon.
Does Biden’s pardon cover court martial?
Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (Hkcdp)

Pfft. Courts martial for his underlings and have the Good General brought in as principal witness for each and everyone of them.
His name will be mud everywhere, Tunisia would reject his plea for refugee status.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (D7oie)

68 56 We MUST prosecute Milley. This is the only way to prevent these arrogant assholes from making policy that always puts America second.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (PMtkd)

Every one of his underlings needs to be in prison, pour encourager les autres. Make fragging great again.

Posted by: Roy at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (z+ik4)

69 Can Sec Dev remove all of Generalissimo'a fake-ass ribbons too?
Posted by: Heavy Meta
.....

No, he got those in the Boy Scouts.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (v0R5T)

70 Reduction in rank? Why not bust him to Private and send him to Gitmo for a while, to ponder the error of his ways?

Or Bynged..."pour encourager les autres!"?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (OXOOA)

71 Hmm, so Milley was pardoned too?

Ok, so that is all of a piece. It was to immunize the people who all had a hand in the J6 Reichstag Fire. Which they then used as a pretext to imprison political opponents and cow the Right. Which means him not releasing the troops was not just a spur of the moment stupid/treasonous activity, but part of a preplanned, organized thing. A conspiracy, if you will.

*types* *deletes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (bss/y)

72 I heard they get M and Ms in Leavenworth.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (E0r6f)

73 Hegseth was a major in the military, correct?

I wonder how much it sticks in Milley's craw that a mere major in the Army National Guard will demote him, a four-star general.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (7fElN)

74 Milley was the one who told Trump, before the disastrous pullout, that we should leave all of our military equipment behind because it would be cheaper.

Then as we all know we left behind billions of dollars worth of operational equipment. I'm convinced Milley and others did that intentionally, and I think we should look into it. He signaled his intentions and then it happened. I don't think that was coincidence.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (Odg76)

75 Bust his rank to E-1
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (V7x+u)

You can't just arbitrarily bust him to enlisted. You'd need to find him guilty of a crime that warranted an, essentially, life sentence - or death - but for which he hadn't already been pardoned.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (ExV1e)

76 Can we get rid of thong ads featuring 13 year old girls?

Posted by: Eeyore at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (1bNHn)

77 Demote him?

What, is Leavenworth full?

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (PzXaK)

78 They should Article 92 his fat blubbery ass.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (TejRp)

79 They need to demote him from standing on the gallows to hanging under it.

Posted by: JoshO at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (LmUpe)

80 >64

lol

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (v0R5T)

81 Playing footsie with Pelosi and White House version of the Three Stooges is an automatic disqualifier.

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:20 PM (rj6Yv)

You'll have to go back a long, long way to find those who have risen very far in the Five Sided Nuthouse that were anything other than political animals.

Thats the nature of the peacetime military. Its a political organization in those periods. Those who practice politics the best move up. War fighters are typically poor politicians.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (JcRjn)

82 Isn't it still a question, whether a person can be pardoned without ever being charged, and without the pardon stating what exactly the pardon is for?

All these blanket pardons for any crimes in the last ten years ... for these worst offenders.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (Cus5s)

83 61
He's about to be referred to as "former 3 star general".
Posted by: Frank Barone at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (+oR7L)

A two star general?! I never heard of a one star general!

Why a colonel would never do something like that! I am sure a dedicated Lt Colonel...

And so on. Keep going until you hit bedrock, then break out the jackhammer.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (bss/y)

84 I wonder how much it sticks in Milley's craw that a mere major in the Army National Guard will demote him, a four-star general.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 30, 2025 01:23 PM (7fElN)
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I hope it sticks like a giant wad of industrial super glue.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (79pEw)

85
Oh, no! Not his Distinguished Power Point Presentation Cross!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 30, 2025 01:17 PM (dxSpM)

With oak leaf clusterfuck!!!
Posted by: PVT. GOMER PYLE at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (wtvvX)

------

BWAHAHAHAHA

One of my favorite pics is Milley side-by-side with Eisenhower. You notice a) Milley is a fatass with a distorted face and b)Milley's obvious and garbage-level chest lettuce c)Eisenhower won a war.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (PMtkd)

86 70 Reduction in rank? Why not bust him to Private and send him to Gitmo for a while, to ponder the error of his ways?

Or Bynged..."pour encourager les autres!"?
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 30, 2025 01:22 PM (OXOOA)

One star is apparently a doable drop (from 4 to 3)...more is really hard...

Posted by: Nova Local at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (exHjb)

87 Very model of an immodest major general

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (Cp5Ma)

88 Really need to take a hard look at all the Military Commanders who have been relieved of command over the last couple of years for 'loss of confidence'.

They were coming down like 1 or 2 per week... and these were people with Decades of military leadership getting to those positions... yet... suddenly...

Reopen those cases, and look for the purge.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (QAkQ3)

89 Why?

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (E0r6f)

90 There should be a rule for generals that you can't be a general if you can't see your own dick without the use of a mirror. Seems a reasonable requirement for a general.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (Wg6v7)

91 > Unless you find that he committed crimes outside the time period of his pardon, no, he cannot. Military law differs from civilian law but Presidential pardons still work there.

Call him back to active duty, demote the shit out of him, then assign him to guard duty in some Montana missile field.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (Odg76)

92 Thoroughly Modern Milley should face a court martial for whatever the UCMJ equivalent of Being a Conniving Shitbag is.

Then spend some time at Fort Leavenworth.

Posted by: ballistic at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (1b5Z6)

93 I thought of that. But it seems somehow insulting to Chuck Conners.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Chuck Conners didn't need to have the buttons on his blouse ripped off.

He could have just flexed.

Posted by: Auspex at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (j4U/Z)

94 You'll have to go back a long, long way to find those who have risen very far in the Five Sided Nuthouse that were anything other than political animals.

Thats the nature of the peacetime military. Its a political organization in those periods. Those who practice politics the best move up. War fighters are typically poor politicians.
Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (JcRjn)

-----

The ass-licking is legendary.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (PMtkd)

95 Where's Muab'dib?

https://tinyurl.com/ms48yvyk

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (Cp5Ma)

96 And so what if he was pardoned for anything? The precedent has been set for ignoring pardons (J6...?) so this would be par for the course.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (PzXaK)

97 Reactivate him, demote him, and send him to man Ice Station Zebra.

Posted by: American Hawkman at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (9VDxG)

98 Have they figured it out yet that they brought this on themselves with 4 long years of lawfare and several assassination attempts that have IC fingerprints all over them? Oh, and the impeachments over Ukraine.

There is no reason for Trump and his team to hold back. They will destroy him if given the opportunity, so better to stop them now.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (Hkcdp)

99 Demote = Weak
Court Martial Than hang = Strong

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (/U5Yz)

100 36
Buck Private Mark A Milley has a nice ring to it.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (iJfKG)

37 Private Milley has a nice ring.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:18 PM (cjAAr)

LOL

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (cjAAr)

101 29 I wonder if someone's figured out how to reverse or correct terrible plastic surgery because it seems a fair number of stars, etc who had bad plastic surgery are suddenly looking human again.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 30

You can dissolve filler.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (pZEOD)

102 TDS is a real thing.

These traitors need to be held accountable.

Scum.

Posted by: Czech Chick at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (Hct/e)

103 We MUST prosecute Milley.

And, yet, we cannot.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (ExV1e)

104 Then

Posted by: Maj. Healey at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (/U5Yz)

105 Pentagon Jen Griffin has the sadz.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (4tmpE)

106 Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (JcRjn)

Obviusly.

And how do the Baby Boomers fit in

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (MQJVv)

107 Can we get rid of thong ads featuring 13 year old girls?
Posted by: Eeyore

Why?
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (E0r6f)

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

108 If Woodward is lying, Milley needs to sue.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (gKWVE)

109 Really old boy, so many medals and ribbons. Makes this ole Field Marshal that defeated the German Army and killed Beria look like a slacker.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (wBaIH)

110 89 Why?

Posted by: Joe Biden at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (E0r6f)

BECAUSE.

Posted by: Donald Trump at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (wtvvX)

111 Mea culpa, I honestly forgot about Milley's pardon.

Fuck.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (PMtkd)

112 29 I wonder if someone's figured out how to reverse or correct terrible plastic surgery because it seems a fair number of stars, etc who had bad plastic surgery are suddenly looking human again.

Or your standards, like mine, are cratering.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (OXOOA)

113 SecDef Hegseth: We're Investigating Milley's Leaking and Gross Insubordination of the Chain of Command and We Might Demote Him

How about investigate him for Gross Leaking.

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (NMT5x)

114 I wonder if Milley ever gave a single thought the fact that warning an enemy of an attack would get Americans killed. Actually I don't don't wonder i know, he didn't. Scumbag

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (6v8aM)

115 Are we having fun yet?

https://is.gd/lFsbkT

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (L/fGl)

116 Could Brian Bouchet change his name to Treb Bouchet.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (E0r6f)

117 I will volunteer to cater Miley's Courts Martial.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (XV/Pl)

118 "Private Milley". Since "Inmate" isn't possible.

Too soon?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (RQRKj)

119 Five sided puzzle palace on the Potomac, only place where more ball licking happens than with a bunch of dogs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (Cp5Ma)

120 I would have absolutely loved to have been at Milley's house the night of the election. That would have been awesome.

BTW, Milley's second in command (and admiral I think) and his attorney are currently under investigation as well. And, those two DON'T have a pardon.

Posted by: Orson at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (dIske)

121 You can dissolve filler.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (pZEOD)

You can do that and not wind up looking like a shar pei?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (D7oie)

122 The ass-licking is legendary.

Its always been this way. Patton wrote, numerous times, of his eager jumping at any opportunity to "get in a boot lick" as he was trying to rise through the ranks.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (JcRjn)

123 Don Surber has a great article on Substack about the behind-the-scenes chess moves the Trump Administration is making against the bureaucratic behemoth.

They have wargamed this for four years, and it's glorious. Worthy of passing to All and Sundry:

https://donsurber.substack.com/p/cry-harder

Posted by: Beverly at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (Epeb0)

124
This is the problem with the old "always respect the men in uniform" attitude of, well lets say prior generations.

You can trust your car to the man who wears the star.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (63Dwl)

125 You'll have to go back a long, long way to find those who have risen very far in the Five Sided Nuthouse that were anything other than political animals.

Thats the nature of the peacetime military. Its a political organization in those periods. Those who practice politics the best move up. War fighters are typically poor politicians.
Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (JcRjn)

The best CO I've had was a guy who sat me down at my FitRep and told me very frankly that I didn't have the necessary political instincts to go past O-3. He said I was doing a good job, but I'd languish there for the rest of my military career.

Very unusual to have a CO refuse to rubber stamp someone IMO.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (PzXaK)

126 I wonder if Milley ever gave a single thought the fact that warning an enemy of an attack would get Americans killed. Actually I don't don't wonder i know, he didn't. Scumbag
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (6v8aM)

One level up from this is when you realize he did.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:29 PM (cjAAr)

127 Article 88 courts martial minimum. I say treason.

Posted by: nraendowment at January 30, 2025 01:29 PM (39RZx)

128 Is pulling a Schlesinger worse than pulling a Toobin?

Posted by: Josephistan at January 30, 2025 01:29 PM (PNiSZ)

129 Pentagon Jen Griffin has the sadz.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (4tmpE)
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She's our canary in a coal mine. If she's unhappy, we are making progress.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 01:29 PM (RQRKj)

130 Hegseth needs to dig into Milley's role in J6 too. Not "just" the shit he pulled with the National Guard (if that was his doing) but, in all seriousness, all of the shit that went down.

Especially his comms with Pelosi.

The treason with regards to China should be a cakewalk. But, more to the point, pile on every fucking thing that may stick. Reputation destruction works both ways assholes.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 30, 2025 01:29 PM (Q4IgG)

131 47 He CAN be recalled to active duty and court-martialed.

Unless you find that he committed crimes outside the time period of his pardon, no, he cannot. Military law differs from civilian law but Presidential pardons still work there.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:19 PM (ExV1e)

I've read the Biden 'Pardons' .... and I don't see a time limit in them. They are so completely open ended as to charge, or time limit, that they effectively put those listed above the Law.

Hunter's had a time limit... the latest ones do not that I can find... which makes them legally problematic and someone needs to take them to the Supremes.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (QAkQ3)

132 Five sided puzzle palace on the Potomac, only place where more ball licking happens than with a bunch of dogs.

I get frustrated, Anna, with the perception here of the military - largely pushed by folks with an idealized view of the military that never served a day in uniform.

Its not a meritocracy - and it never has been. Not even under Saint Ronnie.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (JcRjn)

133 But did you see all those medals on Milley's chest? Way more than Eisenhower ever wore. Milley won wars that were never started due to sheer force of will and an abundance of charisma. He is no Eisenhower.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (iHVz6)

134 Smell the glove, look how many he got killed with his pull out from Afghanistan.

He should have resigned in shame after that.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (Hkcdp)

135
Any mention of demotion always makes me think of this Tim Conway/Harvey Korman defrocking skit:

https://tinyurl.com/29cmqafu

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (w6EFb)

136 I can't remember. Is Milley one of the cross dresser weirdos or was that another fake general. I seriously zoned out for four years. Paid no attention to names. This was good for me to be in total denial.

I hate his chest full of medals. Probably some for best latrine duty. I prefer President Eisenhower's medals. But I know nothing and will admit it, unlike Dim's in Congress.

When people yell about Tulsi meeting with Assad, why does no one seem to care or remember McCain, balloon head McMillian and, I think another Dim, secretly meeting with Syrian rebels, trying to topple Assad in 2017? The photos later show him and his face jaw tumor smiling with terrorists, I think one was Baghdadi. McMillian posing with a toy rifle with duct tape. As they pushed for the Syrian Civil War.

My point is McCain went BEFORE Tulsi. And was meeting with terrorists to overthrow Assad. But McCain's secret visit was ok and not hers? Regardless, the warmonger was meddling in the overthrow of a country and I think we need to focus on our problems at this point. She paid for her trip.

Like it worked so well for others to do this in the Egyptian Spring. Ringing any bells, Hillary, about Gadhafi?

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (gi+MR)

137 Barbara Bouchet > Brian Bouchet

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (6v8aM)

138 All these leftwing jackasses persist in denying that President Trump was the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.

The troops aren't supposed to "contain" and "control" the CinC, fer chrissakes.

Posted by: Beverly at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (Epeb0)

139 LOL, I'm enjoying how the Democrats are so obsessed with trying to force the nominees to say "Joe Biden won."

I think one should respond, "Millions of Americans had legitimate concerns over the election of 2020 and who won. But, given the revelations of Biden's mental health the last few months, I don't know if Biden ever knew he won."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 30, 2025 01:31 PM (EiR50)

140 I gotta say, Hegseth looks a lot more badass than Milley.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:31 PM (77rzZ)

141 But did you see all those medals on Milley's chest? Way more than Eisenhower ever wore. Milley won wars that were never started due to sheer force of will and an abundance of charisma. He is no Eisenhower.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (iHVz6)

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Many of those are "you were in charge of something and avoided fucking it up" medals.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:31 PM (PzXaK)

142 OT:

Christopher Lee reads 'The Raven' by Edgar Allen Poe. One of the best voices of the 20th century.

https://tinyurl.com/ycxzmhxf

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 01:31 PM (bss/y)

143 I'm enjoying how the Democrats are so obsessed with trying to force the nominees to say "Joe Biden won."
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"I think the people decided the answer to that question in 2024".

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (cjAAr)

144 I listened to Milley's "angry white man" comments during a hearing, and I sincerely wanted to puke.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (PMtkd)

145 How can they investigate Milley if he got rid of all his e-mails. I expect that all these crooks did.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (MQJVv)

146 76 Can we get rid of thong ads featuring 13 year old girls?

Not going to the Bulwark to see what underwear ads THEY got, nice try though.

Posted by: gKWVE at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (gKWVE)

147 I think that "we recalled you because we wanted to fuck with you" would be more detrimental to the US military than letting Milley go free.
Posted by: I used to have a different

Do not assume that a nebulous pardon covers treason. Let milley prove it in court.

We are not drinking around with some nameless draft dodging hippie that didn't answer the call-up and nobody gives a shit about. This is the senior military officer facilitating an apparent coup and treason.
The evidence against him needs to be written in stone and if, IF, he chooses to claim the pardon, let him. And forever be a traitor. That Biden, beneficiary of a coup, pardoned him for....acknowledging Biden, and the pardon, were illegitimate.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (QYV9/)

148 The best CO I've had was a guy who sat me down at my FitRep and told me very frankly that I didn't have the necessary political instincts to go past O-3. He said I was doing a good job, but I'd languish there for the rest of my military career.

That's funny - I had a similar experience. I was encouraged to enter the Warrant Officer program. Had a senior NCO sit my young ass down and explain the facts of life to me in a very similar conversation. The man was right. He did me a great service.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (JcRjn)

149
>>>One of my favorite pics is Milley side-by-side with Eisenhower. You notice a) Milley is a fatass with a distorted face and b)Milley's obvious and garbage-level chest lettuce c)Eisenhower won a war.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (PMtkd)

In that photo his (now standard issue) retro uni service hat has a Fifty-Mission Crush. Anyone know if those retro hats are issued that way? If not, Milley has a lot of nerve and [REDACTED] to wear a modified hat.

Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (aBgBM)

150 Has Hegseth said anything about the collision and crash yet?

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:33 PM (77rzZ)

151 Call him back to active duty, demote the shit out of him, then assign him to guard duty in some Montana missile field.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 01:25 PM (Odg76)

1. You cannot recall him to active duty without cause.
2. You cannot just arbitrarily demote people.

I know it sucks but he isn't going to be punished. He has co-conspirators, however, who weren't pardoned and CAN be punished. See my link @26.

If we focus on the people we can punish, and drive through until we find them all, he'll be "free" but everyone will know what a treasonous piece of shit he is. Even the lefties, who'll never admit it, will know. And he'll know that they know. That's about the best we can do.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:33 PM (ExV1e)

152 From previous thread:

460 Murkowski was very favorable towards RFKj. Think he has her vote, surprisingly, though, very possibly not Cassidy’s. Collins appeared to be a toss-up, although slightly positive. Hoping for the best.
Posted by: EveR at January 30, 2025 01:15 PM (cUzJO)
______________________________

You have to give Trump props for Murkowski's sudden change of heart. But shutting down Federal Grants, loans and the like he hit her at her most vulnerable place. Alaska is by far the biggest recipient of Federal "gifts" They get over $8,300 per resident in Alaska. The second highest state (remarkably Rhode Island) isn't even close. So, Trump temporarily shut down these grants, and is stating that they will take a closer look at their necessity. THAT is how Murkowski keeps getting re-elected. She brings the goods. Call them earmarks if you like. But, if all of a sudden she can't deliver, she's toast. As a result she needs to play nice.

Posted by: Orson at January 30, 2025 01:33 PM (dIske)

153 Christopher Lee reads 'The Raven' by Edgar Allen Poe. One of the best voices of the 20th century.

https://tinyurl.com/ycxzmhxf
Posted by: Aetius451AD
.......

I had to memorize that poem in JHS and recite it in front of the class. Christopher Lee I ain't.

Posted by: wth at January 30, 2025 01:33 PM (v0R5T)

154
Did Milley deserve 2 paintings?

Posted by: Frank Barone at January 30, 2025 01:33 PM (+oR7L)

155
How about investigate him for Gross Leaking.
Posted by: haffhowershower at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (NMT5x)

________

They got pads and stuff for that. Ask Joe.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 30, 2025 01:33 PM (dxSpM)

156 >>>I hate his chest full of medals. Probably some for best latrine duty.

One was for always putting the shopping cart in the cart corral at the PX before departing. It was even raining a few times.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 30, 2025 01:34 PM (CwhoI)

157 137 Barbara Bouchet > Brian Bouchet
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (6v8aM)

Oh. Damn. Yes.

https://tinyurl.com/34ybszwm

"You're just like an angel, your skin makes me cry
You float like a feather in a beautiful world"

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 01:34 PM (bss/y)

158 I want to see Hegseth rip the epaulettes off Milley. I don't ask for much.

Posted by: bluebell at January 30, 2025 01:34 PM (79pEw)

159 Do not assume that a nebulous pardon covers treason. Let milley prove it in court.

We are not drinking around with some nameless draft dodging hippie that didn't answer the call-up and nobody gives a shit about. This is the senior military officer facilitating an apparent coup and treason.
The evidence against him needs to be written in stone and if, IF, he chooses to claim the pardon, let him. And forever be a traitor. That Biden, beneficiary of a coup, pardoned him for....acknowledging Biden, and the pardon, were illegitimate.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (QYV9/)

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Amen.

This ignoring treason has to stop.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:34 PM (PMtkd)

160 Murkowski was very favorable towards RFKj.

She must not be a big fan of artificial flavors or preservatives in cocaine.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:35 PM (JcRjn)

161 Christopher Lee reads 'The Raven' by Edgar Allen Poe. One of the best voices of the 20th century.

https://tinyurl.com/ycxzmhxf
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 30, 2025 01:31 PM (bss/y)

He did the intro bit for the Hollywood Vampires (an Alice Cooper project) album. Man, he was impressive. And a legit bad-ass in his younger days.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Packing to leave CO at January 30, 2025 01:35 PM (Ad8y9)

162 That's funny - I had a similar experience. I was encouraged to enter the Warrant Officer program. Had a senior NCO sit my young ass down and explain the facts of life to me in a very similar conversation. The man was right. He did me a great service.
Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (JcRjn)

Yep, mad respect for those kinds of leaders. Glad to hear you had a good NCO there. They are getting fewer and far between now.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:35 PM (PzXaK)

163 >> 117 I will volunteer to cater Miley's Courts Martial.

Publius would be seriously ticked if the Duchess were court-martialed.

Posted by: Nazdar at January 30, 2025 01:35 PM (NcvvS)

164 One was for always putting the shopping cart in the cart corral at the PX before departing. It was even raining a few times.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 30, 2025 01:34 PM (CwhoI)

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I gotta say, that might be worth it.

/

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:35 PM (PMtkd)

165 I know very little about the UCMJ. Would court-martialing Milley require that he truthfully testify and answer all questions since he has limited presidential immunity? He would still be liable for perjury and contempt of court?

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:36 PM (rj6Yv)

166 145 How can they investigate Milley if he got rid of all his e-mails. I expect that all these crooks did.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 30, 2025 01:32 PM (MQJVv)

You find that one E-5 or E-6 who actually knows how the mail back up system works?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 30, 2025 01:36 PM (QAkQ3)

167 Don Surber has a great article on Substack about the behind-the-scenes chess moves the Trump Administration is making against the bureaucratic behemoth.

They have wargamed this for four years, and it's glorious. Worthy of passing to All and Sundry:

https://donsurber.substack.com/p/cry-harder

Posted by: Beverly at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (Epeb0)
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That is a great column. Thanks for the link.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 01:36 PM (nr9lv)

168 >>>Why does Milley have an arrow award pointing down?

To remind him of which way to look for his wang, since he probably can't see it?

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 30, 2025 01:36 PM (NMT5x)

169 He proudly admitted it all, which is why the cabal pardoned him in advance.

Posted by: steevy at January 30, 2025 01:36 PM (KQk9m)

170 Jockey wonder awesome sauce. I think this is more planned "shock and awe" where Trump and his people fire so many guns at once that the Democraps all explode into space.

Right now, the Democraps want to focus on the evil Nazi dummkopfs Trump nominated for cabinet positions. But immediately after an especially evil Nazi dummkopf who's also a sex pervert gets nominated, he's dropping MOABs of shit on one of the Democrap's favorite stooges.

The Democraps are getting hit so fast, and from so many sides at once, that they have no idea how to react. They're punch-drunk, paralyzed. All according to plan. "I'm gonna hit you with so many rights, you're gonna beg for a left."

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 01:37 PM (iFTx/)

171 >>>Why does Milley have an arrow award pointing down?

To remind him of where he's going.

Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:37 PM (cjAAr)

172 Yep, mad respect for those kinds of leaders. Glad to hear you had a good NCO there. They are getting fewer and far between now.

I only did one hitch. All the NCOs ranged from either fine to "damn, wish I could buy that guy a beer". At least from '90 to '96, senior enlisted ran the damn Army. Fairly well.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:37 PM (JcRjn)

173 She must not be a big fan of artificial flavors or preservatives in cocaine.
Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:35 PM (JcRjn)

Nothing but the best in ethically-sourced, fair trade, free-range, sustainable, organic, non-GMO cocaine for her.

Posted by: Purest of snow at January 30, 2025 01:37 PM (URPBf)

174 I know very little about the UCMJ. Would court-martialing Milley require that he truthfully testify and answer all questions since he has limited presidential immunity? He would still be liable for perjury and contempt of court?
Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:36 PM (rj6Yv)
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He cannot be tried. At all. Including UCMJ.

His pardon explicitly includes UCMJ charges.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (nr9lv)

175 I suspect prosecuting his subordinates will garner some information?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (Hkcdp)

176 This ignoring treason has to stop.
____

If Milley didn't want to follow Trump's orders, then he should have resigned and made his case as a civilian that Trump is a doo-doo head. Instead he committed treason. Maybe he assumed that there would be no penalty for doing so.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (iHVz6)

177 I've read the Biden 'Pardons' .... and I don't see a time limit in them. They are so completely open ended as to charge, or time limit, that they effectively put those listed above the Law.

I would assume that the courts would rule that, since Biden's Presidency ended on 1/20/25, his ability to pardon couldn't extend beyond that date but who knows.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (ExV1e)

178 They have this thing now called Adblocker

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:39 PM (E0r6f)

179 Can we get rid of thong ads featuring 13 year old girls?

No kidding, Jack! They're way too old!

Posted by: Joseph Robinette Biden at January 30, 2025 01:39 PM (2ocoG)

180

[The irony here:]

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff IS NOT IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND FOR OPERATIONAL PURPOSES. According to the Goldwater-Nichols Act of 1986, the chain of command goes directly from the president to the secretary of defense, and then to the regional combatant commanders, bypassing the Joint Chiefs of Staff. This structure was designed to prevent the military from having undue influence over civilian leadership and to ensure clear lines of operational command.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Treason Executable Again! at January 30, 2025 01:39 PM (iFQ3I)

181 Shit. I meant to say in my comment above:

"But immediately after an especially evil Nazi dummkopf who's also a sex pervert gets CONFIRMED, he's dropping MOABs of shit on one of the Democrap's favorite stooges."

I was referring to Hegseth and his going after this ratfuck weasel Milley.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 30, 2025 01:39 PM (iFTx/)

182 But did you see all those medals on Milley's chest? Way more than Eisenhower ever wore. Milley won wars that were never started due to sheer force of will and an abundance of charisma. He is no Eisenhower.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:30 PM (iHVz6)

I believe there are regulations now that require you to wear all your doodads. Could they change that? Sure, but they think the chicks get moist seeing all those ribbons.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:40 PM (ExV1e)

183
Branded!
Scorned as the one who ran
What do you do when you're branded
And you know you're a man?

Wherever you go
For the rest of your life
You must prove…
You're a man!

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The thing is, he can't prove that.

Demote. Confiscate his rubber dog mask.and mascara. Leave him to try to glue his broken saber back together with Krazy Glue.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 30, 2025 01:40 PM (t1fZA)

184 I didn't get a pardon like Milley so......
Question: Can a guy get into any trouble if he betrays his country for a little Poontang?

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at January 30, 2025 01:40 PM (Vrdez)

185 Why does Milley have an arrow award pointing down?

So the idiots dressed as dogs know where his dick is.

Posted by: Ian S. at January 30, 2025 01:40 PM (2ocoG)

186 1. You cannot recall him to active duty without cause.
2. You cannot just arbitrarily demote people.

1. This is easily circumvented. The President has the power to recall people by executive order during a national emergency. He can declare a limited national emergency in the Montana missile fields and assign Milley there. Or, you can declare that Milley has a "High Demand Skill" and call him back.

2. He lost his security clearance. When you lose your security clearance, you can be demoted if that clearance is necessary as part of your job. GOs need a security clearance.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 01:40 PM (Odg76)

187 121 You can dissolve filler.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:26 PM (pZEOD)

You can do that and not wind up looking like a shar pei?
Posted by: Kindltot at January 30, 2025

Yes, depending on how much you had and your age. If gravity and skin laxity are acting against you, as happens to us all, you may have to fix it surgically. I have never had filler, but I have seen reversals that look just fine.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:41 PM (p4NUW)

188 Call him back to active duty, demote the shit out of him, then assign him to guard duty in some Montana missile field.
Posted by: bonhomme

You can assign him to Bum-Fuck Egypt, but can't arbitrarily demote him. Most actions that result in demotion are due to misconduct, and the soldier has the option to demand trial by court martial to fight it. Which, depending on the pardon, may exempt Milley.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 01:41 PM (R0KN+)

189 His pardon explicitly includes UCMJ charges.
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I think that means that Trump and his administration can call him a traitor and Milley can't do anything about it. Go to court for defamation where the evidence will be laid out?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:41 PM (iHVz6)

190 I was wondering if anything would become of that act of treason. Demotion in retirement hardly seems to be enough, but I guess it's something.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at January 30, 2025 01:41 PM (uCjyK)

191 The pretty girl in the thong ad is only 13? She looks older than that.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:41 PM (77rzZ)

192 160 She must not be a big fan of artificial flavors or preservatives in cocaine.
Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:35 PM (JcRjn

Murkowski knew she was speaking to an advocate of Native health, including Alaska natives. I think she might have heard from some constituents.

Posted by: EveR at January 30, 2025 01:41 PM (cUzJO)

193 My point is McCain went BEFORE Tulsi.

I'm gonna guess that, with the Horde, saying McCain did it too isn't going to be the mitigating factor you might think it is.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (ExV1e)

194 He cannot be tried. At all. Including UCMJ.

His pardon explicitly includes UCMJ charges.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (nr9lv)

Whoa. Was it a Hunter Biden-type pardon or was it limited to a specific time period?

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (rj6Yv)

195
Again, Buck Private Milley needs to be posted for Ceremonial South Pole polishing duty at Amundsen-Scott.

He has to go out ever 30 minutes a polish that pole.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (w6EFb)

196 178 They have this thing now called Adblocker
Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30

Friendly reminder, if you use one, don’t forget to hit the tip jar.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (p4NUW)

197 123 Don Surber has a great article on Substack about the behind-the-scenes chess moves the Trump Administration is making against the bureaucratic behemoth.

They have wargamed this for four years, and it's glorious. Worthy of passing to All and Sundry:

https://donsurber.substack.com/p/cry-harder

Posted by: Beverly at January 30, 2025 01:28 PM (Epeb0)

That is a FANTASTIC article! Wish I could be around to see what happens over the next 4 years 😊❤

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (SRRAx)

198 Demote. Confiscate his rubber dog mask.and mascara.

In a time of war? He'll be lucky.

Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (bkfCY)

199 Hi, Piper!

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:43 PM (77rzZ)

200 Ya know California seceding would make room for Greenland without the messy flag situation.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 30, 2025 01:44 PM (8C1eU)

201 I feel sorry for the Chinese spy who was forced to sleep with Salwell.

Imagine the ever-present disappointment.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:44 PM (PMtkd)

202 191 The pretty girl in the thong ad is only 13? She looks older than that.
Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01

Grateful I don’t have thong ads. But I do get ads that set off my trypophobia something fierce.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:44 PM (p4NUW)

203 Call Milley back into service and deploy him to Ukraine.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at January 30, 2025 01:45 PM (5IFb9)

204 Hi Bulg!

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:45 PM (p4NUW)

205 The ass-licking is legendary.

Its always been this way. Patton wrote, numerous times, of his eager jumping at any opportunity to "get in a boot lick" as he was trying to rise through the ranks.
Posted by: Nope

Homosexuals were banned because of this behavior.
To kiss ass because you initiate the action to move up is one thing.
Superiors demanding subordinates kiss ass was bad for moral.
Literally and sexually.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 30, 2025 01:45 PM (QYV9/)

206
For those of you who remember "Branded", Jason McCord was court martialed covering for his loony general.

So, really, Mark Milley is just like Chuck Conners.

Posted by: Auspex at January 30, 2025 01:45 PM (j4U/Z)

207 Demote to...butter bar, along with pay. His pension will take a haircut. Also deny him access to any base and exchange. Hopefully his clearance has been stripped. PNG on every military installation.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at January 30, 2025 01:45 PM (rUiuV)

208 Grateful I don’t have thong ads. But I do get ads that set off my trypophobia something fierce.
Posted by: Piper

Yeah, I've seen those. I kinda have the same reaction you do.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:45 PM (77rzZ)

209 Teresa, I'm glad you have a good sense of humor about your situation. Is it too intrusive to ask what cancer you are dealing with? Regardless, prayers for you.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:46 PM (PMtkd)

210 201 I feel sorry for the Chinese spy who was forced to sleep with Salwell.

Imagine the ever-present disappointment.
Posted by: Seems Legit

Quite the opposite! He couldn't reach my hymen, so I was able to marry as a pure virgin and maintain my family honor!

Posted by: Fang Fang at January 30, 2025 01:46 PM (R0KN+)

211 Really old boy, so many medals and ribbons. Makes this ole Field Marshal that defeated the German Army and killed Beria look like a slacker.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (wBaIH)

You were awesome in The Death of Stalin!

Posted by: haffhowershower at January 30, 2025 01:46 PM (NMT5x)

212 Honeycombs big yeah yeah yeah.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 01:46 PM (E0r6f)

213
201 I feel sorry for the Chinese spy who was forced to sleep with Salwell.

Imagine the ever-present disappointment.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:44 PM (PMtkd)

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Him got much methane!

Posted by: Fang Fang at January 30, 2025 01:47 PM (t1fZA)

214 Piper, I had a really good interview yesterday. Fingers crossed.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:47 PM (77rzZ)

215 Miley has his jump wings, right?

Perhaps he could perform honorably and execute a jump sans chute.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 30, 2025 01:47 PM (WXNFJ)

216 214 prayers being said!

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:48 PM (p4NUW)

217 If Milley didn't want to follow Trump's orders, then he should have resigned and made his case as a civilian that Trump is a doo-doo head. Instead he committed treason. Maybe he assumed that there would be no penalty for doing so.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (iHVz6)

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Well, considering the overwhelming overt serial treason that has occurred from literally thousands of Commies going back to when The Clinton Crime Family Scum first darkened the doors of The White House ... which has not only NOT been punished, and in fact REWARDED, he wasn't wrong.

And if you get a way with treason, you can get away with ANYTHING including mass murder (see Fauci and Hillary) and child sex trafficking (see Epstein, Bubba, and The Joint Junta-Cartel Southern Border Operations of the past four years)!

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Treason Executable Again! at January 30, 2025 01:48 PM (iFQ3I)

218 I know very little about the UCMJ. Would court-martialing Milley require that he truthfully testify and answer all questions since he has limited presidential immunity? He would still be liable for perjury and contempt of court?
Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:36 PM (rj6Yv)

It would never get to that. They'd say "we're court martialing you" and his lawyers would say "pardon" and it's almost certain that that question would be adjudicated first. Since the Constitution places exactly one limit on the power of Presidential pardon - impeachments - he would win that fight.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:48 PM (ExV1e)

219 Fang Fang never disappoints.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:48 PM (PMtkd)

220
Did Milley deserve 2 paintings?
Posted by: Frank Barone

You ought to see the one in the attic.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 30, 2025 01:48 PM (63Dwl)

221 I'm getting a "secret tool for unforgettable bakery treats" ad

Posted by: Josephistan at January 30, 2025 01:49 PM (PNiSZ)

222 yeah, Tillis has just confirmed he's gonna do all he can someday soon to F conservatives over bigly.

All fired up about J6 and the cops were "heros."

which ones?
The one that shot and killed an unarmed women?
The ones that beat a woman on the ground?
Or the ones that threw people over railings?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 30, 2025 01:50 PM (EiR50)

223 Is Patel still being questioned?

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:50 PM (PMtkd)

224

That foul smelling Globuchar is screeching and whining about Patel. Hilarious.

That voice, holy shit.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 30, 2025 01:50 PM (et1vG)

225 Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
REPORTER: Tom Homan came to Chicago and within 24 hours found a criminal illegal alien convicted sex offender who was living here since 2009. Why can’t you do that?

Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: It’s not my job

https://tinyurl.com/26kw4tt7

Posted by: redridinghood at January 30, 2025 01:50 PM (NpAcC)

226 Reading about the plane victims. I really pray it was instant, those poor children.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (p4NUW)

227 Grateful I don’t have thong ads. But I do get ads that set off my trypophobia something fierce.
Posted by: Piper

How did you know that word? I know exactly the ad you mean. It's kind of gross, to me.

Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (B46kE)

228 “We were a better country when cigarettes could advertise and lawyers couldn't.”

Unknown

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (FmMvr)

229 It would never get to that. They'd say "we're court martialing you" and his lawyers would say "pardon" and it's almost certain that that question would be adjudicated first. Since the Constitution places exactly one limit on the power of Presidential pardon - impeachments - he would win that fight.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

However, if they charge one of his subordinates, recall him to active duty to testify as a witness, he has no 5th amendment protection against self incrimination. If he refuses to testify, he can be held in contempt. If he lies, he can be charged with perjury. If he tells the truth and it is scandalous...he might be legally safe, but his subordinates may be in trouble, and Trump gets a media win.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (R0KN+)

230 That foul smelling Globuchar is screeching and whining about Patel. Hilarious.

That voice, holy shit.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 30, 2025 01:50 PM (et1vG)

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She got strep from eating salad with a comb.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (PzXaK)

231
Ace, you list literal treason. But what do I know?

I see him in front of a firing squad, and Generalissimo Garcia says "We have no blindfolds! We are a poor country!"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (x0n13)

232 226 Reading about the plane victims. I really pray it was instant, those poor children.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (p4NUW

Just terrible

Posted by: Jan Brady at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (VE6XX)

233 177 I've read the Biden 'Pardons' .... and I don't see a time limit in them. They are so completely open ended as to charge, or time limit, that they effectively put those listed above the Law.

I would assume that the courts would rule that, since Biden's Presidency ended on 1/20/25, his ability to pardon couldn't extend beyond that date but who knows.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (ExV1e)

I think Biden outsmarted himself (I know, hard to do) by forcing Weiss to agree to submit to Hnter's initial BS gun charges plea deal, that gave Hunter freedom from new Federal charges in perpetuity. Joe knows Hunter will fork-up again. The Delaware Federal judge hearing the case blew-up that crazy plea deal. Then Garland and Weiss decided they weren't going to be Joe's patsy any longer. So Joe was forced to ultimately pardon Hunter, to at least clear-out the gun and tax charges. Not-top of his class lawyer Joe reached for too much in the gun charges plea deal, to protect Hunter from future Fed prosecution for anything. A plea deal without the forever protection would probably have been approved by the judge.

The best laid plans of mice and Joe...

Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (aBgBM)

234

What are all those big shot medals on MIlleys chest for?

How many young Thai boys he's bedded while on a junket?

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (et1vG)

235 If we focus on the people we can punish, and drive through until we find them all, he'll be "free" but everyone will know what a treasonous piece of shit he is. Even the lefties, who'll never admit it, will know. And he'll know that they know. That's about the best we can do.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:33 PM (ExV1e)

This.
I am reminded on the late 70's when the Army conducted a Council of Colonels. Their goal was to relook the Army, top to bottom, in the post Vietnam era and recommend changes. The changes led to the Army that won in Desert Storm.
Such a relook is needed today across the DOD.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (W/lyH)

236 Does a pardon render 5th Amendment protections moot?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (8zz6B)

237 That foul smelling Globuchar is screeching and whining about Patel. Hilarious.

That voice, holy shit.
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at January 30, 2025 01:50 PM (et1vG)

Expected. Dem senators are on the clock.

Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (rj6Yv)

238 230 She got strep from eating salad with a comb.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM

crabs on her salad, crab lice from a whorehouse Merkin comb.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (x0n13)

239 193 My point is McCain went BEFORE Tulsi.

I'm gonna guess that, with the Horde, saying McCain did it too isn't going to be the mitigating factor you might think it is.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (ExV1e)

I know. I am talking about the Dim and Rino talking points.

McCain was always given a free pass for everything he did. The media, at the time, brought his little visit up.

The Logan Act means squat anymore. John fekin Kerry did the same thing talking to Iran.

Benghazi was a gun running mission to help Syria. I am quite sure the Obama/Hillary people knew.

These meddlesome critters need to stay out of foreign affairs. I don't care if this is the way it's always been done.

But if Tulsi's visit is brought up by shrieking harpies, so should their own (including McCain the aisle crosser).

Posted by: ChristyBlinkyTheGreat at January 30, 2025 01:53 PM (gi+MR)

240 Whoa. Was it a Hunter Biden-type pardon or was it limited to a specific time period?
Posted by: mrp at January 30, 2025 01:42 PM (rj6Yv)
=======================
It covers the time period from Jan. 1, 2014, through Jan. 20, 2025.

I have no idea what Milley was doing in 2014 that he worried would cause legal jeopardy, but there was obviously something.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 01:53 PM (/GKTn)

241 Has the Other Side compared Trump to Stalin yet, and all the purges he orchestrated?

I like to think of Trump's 1st week as the coastal bombardment phase. Now we move to the phase where troops have landed and are seizing key territory- encountering stiff resistance, but steadily advancing.

Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 01:53 PM (AOsQT)

242 Always, in any discussion of this type, there is no end to the "explainers" that will detail exactly why nothing can be done and its useless to even try.

Why is this ? Its obviously hard-wired into the Conservative Psyche - but exactly how and why ?

Its a serious question. I think its important to figure out.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:54 PM (JcRjn)

243 I didn't think a pardon applied to treason. Maybe I got bad information.

Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at January 30, 2025 01:54 PM (4XwPj)

244 Anybody been to West Point?

I’ve read Benedict Arnold (past commander) the spot where his portrait would hang in the pantheon of past commanders is empty. Maybe just a brass name plate.

He was a hero too, and then he was not.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 01:54 PM (FmMvr)

245 If Milley is innocent why did Biden have to pardon him ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 30, 2025 01:54 PM (VE6XX)

246 To the hardcore left these senators are just heroes To anti Trumpers they're just dreamy. To any independent or rational Republican/conservative they're shrieking feral pigs (hat tip Babylon Bee)

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 01:54 PM (6v8aM)

247 The Logan Act never meant squat. It has never been enforced, not since 1798.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:55 PM (p4NUW)

248 Nancy Pelosi met with Assad. I saw pictures of it this morning on X.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:55 PM (PMtkd)

249 I see him in front of a firing squad, and Generalissimo Garcia says "We have no blindfolds! We are a poor country!"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

"You can always use your underwear, senor.
Men, apunta a la mancha marrón!"

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 01:55 PM (0bE/L)

250

Trump EO: I hereby revoke Joe Biden's pardons.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 01:55 PM (x0n13)

251 Bulg,
Fingers crossed!

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (W/lyH)

252 To the hardcore left these senators are just heroes To anti Trumpers they're just dreamy. To any independent or rational Republican/conservative they're shrieking feral pigs (hat tip Babylon Bee)
Posted by: Smell the Glove

No closed season. No bag limits. No restrictions on method of taking.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (0bE/L)

253 245 If Milley is innocent why did Biden have to pardon him ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January

Which brings us full circle back to our discussions when it first happened- even SCOTUS has said a pardon assumes guilt. Biden can’t just write down the pardons are not indicative of guilt and undo that!

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (p4NUW)

254 248 Nancy Pelosi met with Assad. I saw pictures of it this morning on X.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:55 PM (PMtkd)

Lest we forget McStain and Hillary running guns out of Benghazi that got 4 Americans slaughtered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (x0n13)

255 He was a hero too, and then he was not.
Posted by: Common Tater

A few years ago, I read a very interesting article online about Benedict Arnold. Incredibly brave man and a good commander. Then he married his second wife, whose family were Tories, and it started going downhill from there.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

256 > Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson: It’s not my job

I'm pretty sure there are at least two roles of the Mayor that indicate it is your job. As the chief executive of the city, you oversee the administration of local laws, policies and programs. Mayors also oversee general public safety. This usually means working with police and fire departments and court officials to ensure public safety.

So yeah, it is your job to direct police to focus on finding dangerous illegals and direct local prosecutors to prosecute them.

Posted by: bonhomme at January 30, 2025 01:57 PM (Odg76)

257 Trump EO: I hereby revoke Joe Biden's pardons.

Do it while also exposing all the evidence. Release the shit storm.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:57 PM (JcRjn)

258 Hot damn...

RFK called out Bernie for his Big Pharma donations...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

259 Lest we forget McStain and Hillary running guns out of Benghazi that got 4 Americans slaughtered.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (x0n13)

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Oh, I will never forget that bit of treachery.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:58 PM (PMtkd)

260 251 Thanks, Diog.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:58 PM (77rzZ)

261 However, if they charge one of his subordinates, recall him to active duty to testify as a witness, he has no 5th amendment protection against self incrimination. If he refuses to testify, he can be held in contempt. If he lies, he can be charged with perjury. If he tells the truth and it is scandalous...he might be legally safe, but his subordinates may be in trouble, and Trump gets a media win.
Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (R0KN+)

1. I don't believe that they would need to recall him in order to serve a subpoena. He would fight the recall, which would waste time, and he'd likely win.
2. If we have sufficient evidence to charge his subordinates then we don't need him.
3. Trump gets a media win - it's impossible for Trump to get a "media win". Further, since he cannot run again, it's irrelevant.

We need concrete results to improve the country and we have a limited time to get them. We can't go for feel-good BS.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:58 PM (ExV1e)

262 A few years ago, I read a very interesting article online about Benedict Arnold. Incredibly brave man and a good commander. Then he married his second wife, whose family were Tories, and it started going downhill from there.

Still undefeated !!!

Posted by: Pussy at January 30, 2025 01:58 PM (JcRjn)

263 Man, I've just about had it with all these "ill" names:
Fani Willis
Thom Tillis
Mark Milley

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (eb5mD)

264 241 Has the Other Side compared Trump to Stalin yet, and all the purges he orchestrated?

I like to think of Trump's 1st week as the coastal bombardment phase. Now we move to the phase where troops have landed and are seizing key territory- encountering stiff resistance, but steadily advancing.
Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 01:53 PM (AOsQT)

It better not go like Anzio. "thought we were unleashing a tiger, but all we got was a beached whale"

Winston Churchill

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (x0n13)

265 Does a pardon render 5th Amendment protections moot?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (8zz6B)

I believe it does and I believe courts have ruled that it does - but I could be wrong on that point.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (ExV1e)

266 He was a hero too, and then he was not.
Posted by: Common Tater

A few years ago, I read a very interesting article online about Benedict Arnold. Incredibly brave man and a good commander. Then he married his second wife, whose family were Tories, and it started going downhill from there.
Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

--

I'm going from memory here, but I wonder that if he was promoted to Major General initially instead of having to wait, things may have been different.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (PzXaK)

267 The Milley pardon, for anyone who wants to read it again:

FOR ANY OFFENSES against the United States, including but not limited to any offenses
under the United States Code or the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which he may have
committed or taken part in during the period from January l, 2014, through the date of this pardon
arising from or in any manner related to his service as Chief of Staff of the U.S. Army or Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

https://tinyurl.com/ycyw3zfc

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (QK75E)

268 I think that means that Trump and his administration can call him a traitor and Milley can't do anything about it. Go to court for defamation where the evidence will be laid out?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:41 PM (iHVz6)

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Huh, I like the idea of openly calling his actions treasonous without repercussions.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (PMtkd)

269 229 It would never get to that. They'd say "we're court martialing you" and his lawyers would say "pardon" and it's almost certain that that question would be adjudicated first. Since the Constitution places exactly one limit on the power of Presidential pardon - impeachments - he would win that fight.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

However, if they charge one of his subordinates, recall him to active duty to testify as a witness, he has no 5th amendment protection against self incrimination. If he refuses to testify, he can be held in contempt. If he lies, he can be charged with perjury. If he tells the truth and it is scandalous...he might be legally safe, but his subordinates may be in trouble, and Trump gets a media win.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 01:51 PM (R0KN+)

Yesterday Insty posted a tweet by someone who intends going that path. He claims to have the goods on Milley's official Chairman of Joint Chiefs legal counsel, a still-serving Navy admiral. The tweeter said he's forwarded what he has to DoD and Congress, in a formal whistle-blower complaint. Stay tuned, I guess.

Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (aBgBM)

270 Trump should invent a new service rank, call it Private Disgrace and Shame Class, and demote Milley to that.

Posted by: Weasel at January 30, 2025 02:00 PM (iu4Pw)

271 I have met Milley. His handshake is soft. He was shocked, and said so, that I was married to an NCO. It was bizarre, truly. He is a jerk.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 02:00 PM (p4NUW)

272 214 prayers being said!
Posted by: Piper

Thank you, Piper.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 02:00 PM (77rzZ)

273 258 Hot damn...

RFK called out Bernie for his Big Pharma donations...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 01:58 PM (GBKbO)

6 Vermont mansions and fat stock portfolio. Communism pays!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 02:00 PM (x0n13)

274 273 6 Vermont mansions and fat stock portfolio. Communism pays!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 02:00 PM (x0n13)

=======

True socialists yearning for the universal union of all working men always accept $1.5 million from large corporations looking for influence in their governmental offices.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 02:01 PM (GBKbO)

275 It better not go like Anzio. "thought we were unleashing a tiger, but all we got was a beached whale"

Winston Churchill
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Chris Christie was at Anzio?

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 02:02 PM (77rzZ)

276 Always, in any discussion of this type, there is no end to the "explainers" that will detail exactly why nothing can be done and its useless to even try.
Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:54 PM (JcRjn)

I suppose I could run around screaming "it's not fair" and fantasizing about having Milley shot. If I'm standing on a cliff and someone tells me that I cannot fly should I ignore them because I really, really want them to be wrong?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 02:02 PM (ExV1e)

277 209 Teresa, I'm glad you have a good sense of humor about your situation. Is it too intrusive to ask what cancer you are dealing with? Regardless, prayers for you.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 01:46 PM (PMtkd)

Intrahepatic Cholangiocarcinoma, aka Bile Duct Cancer (located inside of the liver). Very rare and extremely aggressive. You wouldn't know that I am sick to look at me right now, but my CAT scans tell a very different story -

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at January 30, 2025 02:02 PM (SRRAx)

278 And not that it matters, but I am no longer married to the NCO in question, but Milley is still a jerk.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 02:02 PM (p4NUW)

279 I have met Milley. His handshake is soft. He was shocked, and said so, that I was married to an NCO.
Posted by: Piper

Did you make him drop and give you 50?

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)

280 262 A few years ago, I read a very interesting article online about Benedict Arnold. Incredibly brave man and a good commander. Then he married his second wife, whose family were Tories, and it started going downhill from there.

Still undefeated !!!
Posted by: Pussy at January 30, 2025

I know right!?

Posted by: Prince Harry at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (NyLZu)

281 hey'd say "we're court martialing you" and his lawyers would say "pardon"

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"I said WE'RE COURT-MARTIALING YOU!"

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (PzXaK)

282 Did Milley deserve 2 paintings?

They couldn't fit him on just one.

Posted by: Oddbob at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (/y8xj)

283 Teresa. I'm sorry you have to go through this.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (PMtkd)

284 5 hash marks on his forearm and a buck private.

Snort!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom ! Kid at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (hirWM)

285 I didn't think a pardon applied to treason. Maybe I got bad information.
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at January 30, 2025 01:54 PM (4XwPj)

It doesn't feel like it should but the Constitution mentions impeachment but not treason. I assume the Founders never considered we'd have a traitor President.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (ExV1e)

286 277 Intrahepatic Cholangiocarcinoma, aka Bile Duct Cancer (located inside of the liver). Very rare and extremely aggressive. You wouldn't know that I am sick to look at me right now, but my CAT scans tell a very different story -
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at January

Every time I read this, it’s a kick in the gut. I told Ben Had I am in awe of your strength.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (p4NUW)

287 A few years ago, I read a very interesting article online about Benedict Arnold. Incredibly brave man and a good commander. Then he married his second wife, whose family were Tories, and it started going downhill from there.

Still undefeated !!!
Posted by: Pussy

*snort.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (0bE/L)

288 E-1, baby.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (dR6yv)

289 Did you make him drop and give you 50?
Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (77rzZ)

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Like he could.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (PMtkd)

290 127 Article 88 courts martial minimum. I say treason.

Posted by: nraendowment at January 30, 2025 01:29 PM (39RZx)
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Isn't Treason one of the few cases where Presidential pardons don't work?

Posted by: Ciampino - a quick execution please at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (KjLnc)

291 A pardon doesn't bar a deep investigation and publicizing the results, so even if the pardon will keep him from being demoted/drawn and quartered, it's worth it, IMO.

Posted by: LASue at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (lCppi)

292 How'd he do on his last pt test?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (E0r6f)

293 281 ---

"I said WE'RE COURT-MARTIALING YOU!"
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January

lol.

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (p4NUW)

294 A few years ago, I read a very interesting article online about Benedict Arnold. Incredibly brave man and a good commander. Then he married his second wife, whose family were Tories, and it started going downhill from there.
Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 01:56 PM (77rzZ)

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I'm going from memory here, but I wonder that if he was promoted to Major General initially instead of having to wait, things may have been different.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (PzXaK)
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That, and he and his immediate superior, Horatio Gates, detested each other.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at January 30, 2025 02:05 PM (6K6Eu)

295 There must be consequences. They must be harsh. For the edification of like minded dipshit generals who still remain.

Posted by: This is the way intensifies at January 30, 2025 02:05 PM (nJfmk)

296 Milley, and officers like him, deserve to be fragged. And I say that as a former officer.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 30, 2025 02:05 PM (ZbeXO)

297 5 hash marks on his forearm and a buck private.

Snort!
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom ! Kid

For anyone else, it'd have been a helluva ride!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 30, 2025 02:05 PM (0bE/L)

298 hey'd say "we're court martialing you" and his lawyers would say "pardon"

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"I said WE'RE COURT-MARTIALING YOU!"
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 02:03 PM (PzXaK)

LOL.

Posted by: LASue at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (lCppi)

299 On Milley's medals: I have 16 medals from my time in the service, which included three combat tours in combat rescue.

Of those 16, three have real value to me.

There are a lot of attendance awards in today's military.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (FAbrK)

300 279
Did you make him drop and give you 50?
Posted by: Bulg at January

I wasn’t fitness trainer to the stars way back then. I was a pudgy HR person. 😂

Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (p4NUW)

301 If Milley is innocent why did Biden have to pardon him ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 30, 2025
****
Maybe Milley blackmailed the retarded fool.

Posted by: torabora at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (otvYB)

302 Hang in there Teresa, good luck and God bless

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (6v8aM)

303 Still undefeated !!!
Posted by: Pussy
____

Remember, with great power comes great responsibility

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (iHVz6)

304 Yesterday Insty posted a tweet by someone who intends going that path. He claims to have the goods on Milley's official Chairman of Joint Chiefs legal counsel, a still-serving Navy admiral. The tweeter said he's forwarded what he has to DoD and Congress, in a formal whistle-blower complaint. Stay tuned, I guess.
Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (aBgBM)

Link @26.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)

305 295 There must be consequences. They must be harsh. For the edification of like minded dipshit generals who still remain.
Posted by: This is the way intensifies at January 30, 2025 02:05 PM (nJfmk)

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This was my point.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (PMtkd)

306 299 On Milley's medals: I have 16 medals from my time in the service, which included three combat tours in combat rescue.

Of those 16, three have real value to me.

There are a lot of attendance awards in today's military.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (FAbrK)

=======

"What's that one mean?"
"I served in Operation Desert Storm?"
"What'd you do?"
"I mopped the floors."
"In...Kuwait?"
"At Fort Hood."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

307 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at January 30, 2025 02:02 PM (SRRAx)

I say a prayer for you every night along with the other Morons/ettes who are suffering...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 30, 2025 02:07 PM (VE6XX)

308 Hang in there Teresa, good luck and God bless
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (6v8aM)

Seconded.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (dR6yv)

309 Link @26.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (ExV1e)

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Hoo boy, both of those tools look like dipshits.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (PMtkd)

310 Benedict Arnold. Incredibly brave man and a good commander. Then he married his second wife, whose family were Tories, and it started going downhill from there.
Posted by: Bulg

She was incredibly hot, according to sources at the time.

The Arnold boot monument a Saratoga is a hoot.

Posted by: Auspex at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (j4U/Z)

311 Prayers for you teresa

Posted by: Miguel cervantes at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (GnSvZ)

312 You can't just arbitrarily bust him to enlisted.
——-

You can’t. Why can’t the President? He’s the CINC.

He can promote officers right on the spot. Fact.

Why can’t he demote right on the spot? Show your work.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (XFvfj)

313 312 You can’t. Why can’t the President? He’s the CINC.

He can promote officers right on the spot. Fact.

Why can’t he demote right on the spot? Show your work.
Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (XFvfj)

=========

Probably has to do with Congressional input into the assigning of generalships.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 02:09 PM (GBKbO)

314 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

Yup. There's a lot of that.

Iraq Campaign Service
GWOT
GWOT Expeditionary
Armed Forces Expeditionary

Um... Those all were for the exact same thing, and that's not even counting the Afghan side of things.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 30, 2025 02:10 PM (FAbrK)

315 What does a buck private retirement check look like?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 02:10 PM (E0r6f)

316 "I used to be scared stiff of the nuns: their whole denial of womanhood—the black dresses and the shaving of the hair—was so horrible, so terrifying. [...] Of course, that's all been stopped. They're sipping gin and tonic in the Dublin pubs now, and a couple of them flashed their pretty ankles at me just the other day."
Peter O'Toole.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 30, 2025 02:10 PM (Wg6v7)

317 He can promote officers right on the spot. Fact.

Why can’t he demote right on the spot? Show your work.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (XFvfj)

Making a General requires an Act of Congress. Unmaking that General requires the same.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 30, 2025 02:10 PM (FAbrK)

318 The Arnold boot monument a Saratoga is a hoot.
Posted by: Auspex

Yeah, I saw that when we went there as a kid. Think I may even have a Polaroid of it somewhere.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 02:11 PM (77rzZ)

319 >263 Man, I've just about had it with all these "ill" names:
Fani Willis
Thom Tillis
Mark Milley

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at January 30, 2025 01:59 PM (eb5mD)

You might say they've a license to ill.

Posted by: Beastie Boys at January 30, 2025 02:11 PM (NgqoH)

320 Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at January 30, 2025 02:02 PM (SRRAx)

I just said a prayer for you Teresa. God bless and keep you.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at January 30, 2025 02:11 PM (ZbeXO)

321 265 Does a pardon render 5th Amendment protections moot?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at January 30, 2025 01:52 PM (8zz6B)

I believe it does and I believe courts have ruled that it does - but I could be wrong on that point.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

Should. Just like, if a prosecutor gives a co-conspirator immunity from charges, he can be compelled to testify, as he's not in jeopardy, so has no right to avoid self-incrimination, because he can't be charged.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 02:11 PM (R0KN+)

322 I'd like to see the Pardon power reined in and maybe clarified. It seems a bit vague right now. Not vague- maybe simplistic. Needs some guidelines and definitions.

Unless I'm wrong.

Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 02:12 PM (AOsQT)

323 Milley claims �at no time was I attempting to change or influence the process, usurp authority or insert myself in the chain of command� � but Woodward described him as �pulling a Schlesinger� i.e. ordering officials not to follow direct orders from the president. pic.twitter.com/g6OEzuiPrO

If J6 was a mostly peaceful protest then these sorts of actions might just merit a demotion and a dishonorable discharge.

But if J6 was a violent insurrection well...this becomes a capital offense doesn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 30, 2025 02:12 PM (t0Rmr)

324 Isn't Treason one of the few cases where Presidential pardons don't work?
Posted by: Ciampino - a quick execution please at January 30, 2025 02:04 PM (KjLnc)
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The Constitutional provision on pardons is less than a full sentence and it is absolute. No qualifying language.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 30, 2025 02:12 PM (c4fmL)

325 Man, I've just about had it with all these "ill" names:
Fani Willis
Thom Tillis
Mark Milley

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell

You forgot Hillary.

Posted by: Bulg at January 30, 2025 02:12 PM (77rzZ)

326
Pete Buttplug is hopping mad about what Trump said. He's gonna scratch Trump's eyes out.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 30, 2025 02:12 PM (w6EFb)

327 Nood. Rogue FBI.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 02:13 PM (ExV1e)

328 He can promote officers right on the spot. Fact.

Why can’t he demote right on the spot? Show your work.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (XFvfj)

Making a General requires an Act of Congress. Unmaking that General requires the same.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 30, 2025 02:10 PM (FAbrK)

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I don't know the details and never had cause to research them, but didn't Truman fire MacArthur? I don't know how though.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 02:13 PM (PzXaK)

329 Monopoly get out of jail free card is sacrosanct.

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 02:13 PM (E0r6f)

330 315 What does a buck private retirement check look like?

Posted by: Boss Moss at January 30, 2025 02:10 PM (E0r6f)

Looks like he'll need two or three jobs to make ends meet.

Posted by: Gref at January 30, 2025 02:13 PM (aBgBM)

331 An investigation and strongly worded letter has been a long time in coming for Gen. Milley.

Finally, after a long winter, we may see justice in the form of a slightly less comfortable retirement for him and a slightly less comfortable passing at a ripe old age in slightly less lavish surroundings.

Posted by: Wowzers at January 30, 2025 02:13 PM (7NqTg)

332 I have met Milley. His handshake is soft. He was shocked, and said so, that I was married to an NCO. It was bizarre, truly. He is a jerk.
Posted by: Piper at January 30, 2025 02:00 PM (p4NUW)

Okay, I'll bite.

Why was he shocked that you were married to an NCO?

Posted by: naturalfake at January 30, 2025 02:14 PM (iJfKG)

333 317 He can promote officers right on the spot. Fact.

Why can’t he demote right on the spot? Show your work.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 02:08 PM (XFvfj)

Making a General requires an Act of Congress. Unmaking that General requires the same.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider

He can relieve people of duty at will. It's tougher to demote, as their are policy protections are procedures. And yes, with Congress approving general officers, there may be additional hurdles.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 02:14 PM (R0KN+)

334 I have met Milley. His handshake is soft. He was shocked, and said so, that I was married to an NCO.
Posted by: Piper

I've met him as well. I was not impressed at all. A good friend worked directly for him when he had Division command. My friend made general officer too.
And he is a lib.
They take care of each other.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 30, 2025 02:15 PM (W/lyH)

335 Thanks for the prayers, all - I am feeling fine right now. Just started on some new meds, since the first 2 months of chemo didn't work. Fingers crossed that this will buy me some extra time 😊❤

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Plucky Comic Relief, AoS Ladies Brigade - Eat the Cheesecake, Buy the Yarn. at January 30, 2025 02:15 PM (SRRAx)

336 Should. Just like, if a prosecutor gives a co-conspirator immunity from charges, he can be compelled to testify, as he's not in jeopardy, so has no right to avoid self-incrimination, because he can't be charged.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 02:11 PM (R0KN+)

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And if they refuse to testify, they're guilty of contempt of court.

And if they testify falsely, they're guilty of perjury.

In theory ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make Treason Executable Again! at January 30, 2025 02:15 PM (6NbPa)

337 I don't know the details and never had cause to research them, but didn't Truman fire MacArthur? I don't know how though.
Posted by: WitchDoktor

Fired/relieved of command, but not demoted. You have to be adjudicated of misconduct, usually by court martial at that rank, before you risk losing rank.

Posted by: Military Moron at January 30, 2025 02:15 PM (R0KN+)

338 I don't know the details and never had cause to research them, but didn't Truman fire MacArthur? I don't know how though.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 02:13 PM (PzXaK)

Firing him just meant he wasn't in charge of forces in Korea any longer. He was still a 5 star General.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 02:15 PM (ExV1e)

339 You forgot Hillary.

And Jill, and Bill before both of them.

Posted by: t-bird at January 30, 2025 02:16 PM (yZv1m)

340 Thanks friends! Good to know.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 02:16 PM (PzXaK)

341 Teresa, what about a transplant

Posted by: Don Black at January 30, 2025 02:17 PM (AOsQT)

342 Hang him

Posted by: Sharkman at January 30, 2025 02:17 PM (3dw//)

343 I don't know the details and never had cause to research them, but didn't Truman fire MacArthur? I don't know how though.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at January 30, 2025 02:13 PM (PzXaK)

He dismissed and replaced him as top commander in Korea. as was his right as President and C-in-C during war time.

Demoting or court-martialing Milley involves a legal proceeding I assume via UCMJ, but still Trump is C-in-C and has the authority to proceed.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 30, 2025 02:17 PM (x0n13)

344 Thanks for the prayers, all - I am feeling fine right now. Just started on some new meds, since the first 2 months of chemo didn't work. Fingers crossed that this will buy me some extra time 😊❤

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Posted by: ShainS -- Make Treason Executable Again! at January 30, 2025 02:20 PM (6NbPa)

345 Hey, General @$$hat - beginning to finally understand white rage now?!

Posted by: BubbleheadJD at January 30, 2025 02:20 PM (lQVWv)

346 Or, all him back to active duty, rescind all of his medals, bust him to Second Lieutenant, and require him to serve a 3 year tour at a radar station above the arctic circle.

Then, hang him.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 30, 2025 02:20 PM (3dw//)

347 Making a General requires an Act of Congress.
——-

Every Officer technically is approved by Congress. Don’t take my word for it, look it up. That’s why they are called commissioned officers.

Sorry, not buying it. He’s the fucking HMFIC and chief bottle washer. The CINC can do this.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 30, 2025 02:21 PM (XFvfj)

348
Field Marshal Zhukov

But, like you, he represented the entire Army at the buffet!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 30, 2025 02:22 PM (xG4kz)

349 Pardon is good for all impeachment... then charge for treason, let him win for the pardon ( plead guilty ) then impeachment for treason, then execute.

Easy peasy.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at January 30, 2025 02:23 PM (QYV9/)

350 Two things get left out of this story:

1) There was never any danger of Trump doing anything. He didn't contemplate it, plan it, try to do it, etc. This was all predicated-on a fantasy.

2) Milley bragged about this not out of duty and honor, or because there was any specific danger, but in a grubby attempt to curry favor with Biden. And it worked.

Striped of his last star, and humiliated, as an example to others. In fact, call him back before a board and make him do some explaining, about how HE decided HE was in charge of the military, and not the commander in chief. That should be educational.

Oh, and film that AND show it to the troops during training, instead of DEI crap.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 30, 2025 02:25 PM (nLFEI)

351 Good.
Do the same to Mattis

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo at January 30, 2025 02:28 PM (xcxpd)

352 If Milley didn't want to follow Trump's orders, then he should have resigned and made his case as a civilian that Trump is a doo-doo head. Instead he committed treason. Maybe he assumed that there would be no penalty for doing so.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 30, 2025 01:38 PM (iHVz6)

He was right.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 02:43 PM (g8Ew8)

353 Private First Class Milley sounds right

Posted by: Anon Mouse at January 30, 2025 02:43 PM (+WaZX)

354 Firing him just meant he wasn't in charge of forces in Korea any longer. He was still a 5 star General.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 30, 2025 02:15 PM (ExV1e)

Yup. Even in retirement the troops are still required to call him "sir".

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 30, 2025 02:47 PM (g8Ew8)

355 Bust him down to private and have him fight the Mimics

Posted by: Kamala's Throat at January 30, 2025 03:17 PM (W+TLY)

356 General Milley cannot be demoted without a General Court Martial. HOWEVER, the rate at which he receives his retirement pay CAN be reduced. I personally know of 2 Star that got “railroaded” because of what a subordinate did and, while he kept his Major General rank, he’s collecting retirement at O-6 (Colonel) rate.

For Gen Milley, he needs to be reduced for retirement purposes to O-6. As a 4 Star with 43 years of service, his retirement pay is 100% of his Active Duty Base pay ($212,100 per year when he retired). As a O-6 for retirement purposes, his retirement pay would be $162,912 (in 2023, when he retired). Retiring him as a general officer wouldn’t greatly affect his retirement pay. 4, 3, and 2 Stars all make about the same pay (capped at SES Level II). 1 Stars make about $25K less. The big drop is for O-6.

Posted by: A-10 at January 30, 2025 03:17 PM (nl4I0)

357 This is the problem with the old "always respect the men in uniform" attitude of, well lets say prior generations.

Its just a uniform. Inside it ? Just a man. Sometimes honest, sometimes a scoundrel. The more rank ? In peacetime, a pretty good indicator of scoundrel.

Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:21 PM (JcRjn)

Benedict Arnold was a great leader for the Rebels in the Revolution, climaxing in his work at Saratoga to capture the entire British invasion army in the Hudson valley.

He was also, a few years later a traitor and a British officer burning towns in Virginia.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 04:07 PM (n7h9X)

358 You'll have to go back a long, long way to find those who have risen very far in the Five Sided Nuthouse that were anything other than political animals.

Thats the nature of the peacetime military. Its a political organization in those periods. Those who practice politics the best move up. War fighters are typically poor politicians.
Posted by: Nope at January 30, 2025 01:24 PM (JcRjn)

Milley was a terrible politician for committing to one side when the other side was in power. Bad move.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 04:08 PM (n7h9X)

359 I wonder if Milley ever gave a single thought the fact that warning an enemy of an attack would get Americans killed. Actually I don't don't wonder i know, he didn't. Scumbag
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 30, 2025 01:27 PM (6v8aM)

One level up from this is when you realize he did.
Posted by: ... at January 30, 2025 01:29 PM (cjAAr)

Was he still in charge two years back where we publicized the grand Ukraine offensive with Western weapons with 6 month notice so Russia could build three entrenched lines to block it?

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 04:18 PM (n7h9X)

360 299 On Milley's medals: I have 16 medals from my time in the service, which included three combat tours in combat rescue.

Of those 16, three have real value to me.

There are a lot of attendance awards in today's military.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 30, 2025 02:06 PM (FAbrK)

=======

"What's that one mean?"
"I served in Operation Desert Storm?"
"What'd you do?"
"I mopped the floors."
"In...Kuwait?"
"At Fort Hood."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 30, 2025 02:07 PM (GBKbO)

Fun fact: they gave Medals of Honor for the entire roll of some Civil War unit for re-enlisting. It didn't have quite the shine it got later.

Posted by: Oldcat at January 30, 2025 04:24 PM (n7h9X)

361 Milley should be Court Mashled for this

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at January 30, 2025 05:02 PM (wGqjj)

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