THE MORNING RANT: Liberation Day Executive Orders & the Beginning of the End for the Failed EV Transition

These first few days of the Trump 47 administration have been breathtakingly wonderful. The blizzard of Executive Orders that are dismantling the woke, green, bureaucratic state is something that few conservatives thought we’d ever see. It certainly would never have happened with any legacy, establishment Republican, and it also probably would not have happened if Trump’s 2nds term had started in 2021. But after all the phony scandals, lawfare, inquisitions, and attempts on his life, Trump has a purpose and well-defined enemies that he seeks to disempower.

While there is so much to discuss, I’ll make my first post-inauguration piece about electric vehicles, since that has sort of been my defining cause.

While it’s too early to do a final victory dance, the “EV transition” has been stopped in its tracks, and thanks to Donald Trump’s EOs, there is no justification for auto manufacturers to pursue that folly any more. Tesla has carved out a profitable niche that amounts to a negligible 4% of the total U.S. light vehicle market. That is effectively the actual EV market in this country based on genuine customer demand. If legacy auto manufacturers want to compete for a slice of that small pie, they can do so, but that pie is not likely to get much bigger without tax incentives and government mandates.

Here is what has happened so far…

“Donald Trump Signs Executive Orders Scrapping Biden’s ‘EV Mandate’” [Car Scoops – 01/21/2025]

A key order signed by Trump on Monday is to scrap the Biden administration’s push for 50% of all new vehicles sold in the US to be electric by 2030. While this was only ever a goal and not legally binding, many car manufacturers had thrown their support behind it.
Federal funding for electric vehicle chargers will also be pulled under the new administration. In 2021, Biden allocated $7.5 billion to establish a national network of EV chargers, hoping that as many as 500,000 would be built by 2030.

The Biden administration signing an Executive Order urging that auto manufacturers set a goal of 50% electric by 2030 was as “not legally binding” as a handshake loan with the Mob. Just about every story I’ve read about Trump reversing Biden’s mandate denies that there actually is a mandate, because Biden’s EO was “non-binding,” but that involves a degree of dishonest reporting because concurrent with the Biden EV Executive Order, the EPA also imposed new tailpipe emissions rules that could only be met by getting the fleet to about 50% electric.

Well more good news, it sounds like Trump is also slapping down the EPA.

Additionally, Trump directed the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to reconsider federal emissions rules set under Biden. These rules would have required automakers to ensure that 30% to 56% of their vehicle sales were EVs by 2032.

Having watched President Trump since Liberation Day (Inauguration Day), it is probably safe to say that the EPA administrators who are tasked with “reconsidering” federal emissions rules better understand that their job is to eliminate them, or else they’ll be fired.

Also apparently being axed is the EPA waiver that allowed California to establish its own EV mandate, specifically that California could mandate that 100% of cars sold in in the state by 2035 be “zero emission,” which means all-electric.

Trump also called for the repeal of a waiver granted to California that permits the state – and 11 others that follow its lead – to phase out gasoline-only vehicle sales by 2035.

Killing off the California electric vehicle mandate will make it easier for legacy auto manufacturers to back away from their EV commitments, but part of me would still like to see Californians have to pay the price for their awful voting behavior and be saddled with no driving options but EVs by 2035. For better or worse, Californians will be saved from their 100% EV mandate thanks to Donald Trump and those of us in sane states who helped Trump win.

The $7,500 federal EV tax credit will need to be eliminated legislatively, as that was part of the comically misnamed “Inflation Reduction Act” in 2022, but that is likely to be on President Trump’s congressional agenda. Any GOP “budget hawk” who professes concern about inflation and deficit spending, but doesn’t vote to eliminate this government handout to the affluent is a phony who is announcing that he needs to be primaried out of office in 2026.

The next few months are going to be very exciting as auto manufacturers learn that they are suddenly free to be competitive enterprises manufacturing the product they know best - gasoline powered cars and trucks. Accordingly, news stories that we should expect to read about in coming months include:

• General Motors renouncing its plans for a 100% electric future. If it doesn’t, a shareholder suit against the GM Board and CEO Mary Barra should be a slam dunk.

• Ford announcing the fate of its mothballed, never-been-used, “Blue Oval” EV plant outside of Memphis. Unless the Blue Oval plant is repurposed to manufacture gas-powered Ford vehicles, it is a massive sunk cost that will result in a horrendous write-off.

• Rivian acknowledging that the taxpayer-subsidized plant outside of Atlanta will never be built. On the other hand, Rivian may just go out of business before ever making that announcement, since there is still no pathway to profit for it, and the spigot of government money to Rivian is being turned off.

• Hyundai announcing plans for re-purposing its new Savannah EV plant. To be fair, Hyundai actually sold over 100,00 EVs in the U.S. last year, but with the EV fad having peaked and a preference cascade going against EVs, there is no chance that Hyundai will come close to manufacturing the 300,000 EVs per year that it was built for.

• Southern states and municipalities (especially Tennessee, Georgia, and North Carolina) acknowledging that it is time to stop throwing money and tax breaks at all the hustlers promoting EV-adjacent start-ups (e.g. battery components), and promising jobs, Jobs, JOBS - at some date in the future - if the local officials will just keep throwing taxpayer money at them.

Let’s end with this unintentionally hilarious tweet showcasing new cars with 0% financing, which are cars that auto manufacturers desperately need to go away. There is something very consistent about these slow-selling cars.

TONS of 0% deals on 2024 models pic.twitter.com/Jial6IOYSD
— Car Dealership Guy (@GuyDealership) January 21, 2025

Of the 18 cars listed with 0% financing, 17 of them are electric vehicles (including four plug-in hybrids.) Most are 2024 year models, which are getting more stale with every passing day.

The EV transition is dead and the unraveling of auto manufacturers’ EV commitments is about to commence. This is a glorious moment, and I am proud to have played a small part in the resistance to an all-EV future, because this was ultimately a battle about personal freedom.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Buck!

Posted by: Doof at January 24, 2025 11:00 AM (gEQYA)

2 st!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2025 11:01 AM (kgE5c)

3 Damn it, Doof!

*shakes fist*

That's what I get for taking time to change my socks.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2025 11:01 AM (kgE5c)

4 Corgis notified.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 24, 2025 11:01 AM (a3Q+t)

5 I'm starting to think this Buck fella ain't a big fan of EVs.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 24, 2025 11:02 AM (2UnvF)

6 >> Tesla has carved out a profitable niche that amounts to a negligible 4% of the total U.S. light vehicle market. That is effectively the actual EV market in this country based on genuine customer demand.

I wouldn’t call that genuine customer demand as it’s still heavily subsidized.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 24, 2025 11:03 AM (FC8SQ)

7 Yo

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 24, 2025 11:03 AM (Q4IgG)

8 Sorry, pulling this over because I want to make sure Grump sees it:

>>>What is the Lumbee Tribe? President Trump wants federal recognition for North Carolina group
https://tinyurl.com/ywfj9c2m
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 10:52 AM (aD39U)

Grump, you're part Lumbee?! Cool! I was obsessed with the Lost Colony for a long time and read all about them. I still want to go to NC and see the live pageant about it, if they still do it.

I was fascinated to see the purity culture in Native American groups during my research. It was like certain Native American groups smugly deprived the Lumbee descendants of any sweet fed recognition (and Bennies) for being under a certain percentage of documentable tribal ancestry. I don't know why this is on Trump's radar, but I'm here for it.

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:03 AM (gWBY1)

9 Daughter of Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards gets baptized: "Jesus saved me from battling severe anxiety, and gave me a peace that makes no sense."

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:03 AM (RHGPo)

10 Now EVs can succeed in a free market.

Hail Trump.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:03 AM (tfOmD)

11 Grump, you're part Lumbee?!

Like Elizabeth Warren, so says my family lore.

I do have the cheekbones.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:02 AM (tfOmD)

Posted by: Grump928(C) repeats himself at January 24, 2025 11:04 AM (tfOmD)

12 "The next few months are going to be very exciting as auto manufacturers learn that they are suddenly free to be competitive enterprises"

Newsholes are saying the old Belvidere IL auto plant (formerly Chrysler) will start back up. Good. For decades, that place made its blue-collar employees quite rich.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:04 AM (8VyQQ)

13 It seems that almost every EO is getting a court challenge because Trump. I want the lawsuits fast tracked and dismissed so hard it serves as a lesson to others.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 24, 2025 11:05 AM (lXoJ5)

14 https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1882819312433451181

Bill Melugin
@BillMelugin_
NEW: President Trump’s DHS has given the green light to ICE to review & potentially terminate parole status for the nearly 1.5 million migrants allowed into the U.S. via Biden’s controversial parole programs (CBP One phone app & CHNV migrant flights), opening the door for their deportations

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at January 24, 2025 11:05 AM (bNWq4)

15 the EPA waiver for CA to set their own standards and the EPA mandate for % of cars to be EV by (future years) are perfect examples of Congress delegation of authority to Executive branch. That needs to come to an end.

Posted by: susan harms at January 24, 2025 11:05 AM (Kkd7F)

16 >>> Tesla has carved out a profitable niche that amounts to a negligible 4% of the total U.S. light vehicle market. That is effectively the actual EV market in this country based on genuine customer demand

Adam Carolla make a joke on his show that the Cybertruck is the car of choice now for douchbags. Like how you can see a Subaru and predict lesbian: cybertruck, probably a douchbag.

It's a good joke, but he's kind of not wrong...

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (gWBY1)

17 "but that involves a degree of dishonest reporting"

No problemo.

Posted by: BignJames at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (Yj6Os)

18 To borrow a Phrase: The Fundamental Transformation Will Be Televised.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (XV/Pl)

19 Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (iODuv)

20 Nice. Now do white goods and those crappy showerheads.

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (z+ik4)

21 I do have the cheekbones.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:02 AM

How!

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (a3Q+t)

22 >While it’s too early to do a final victory dance, the “EV transition” has been stopped in its tracks, and thanks to Donald Trump’s EOs, there is no justification for auto manufacturers to pursue that folly any more.

===

Now lets get some simpler, basic, affordable autos available.

Posted by: davidt at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (i0F8b)

23 19 Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (iODuv)

=======

"NO!"
-George W. Bush, the kind of conservative president NRO wants

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (GBKbO)

24 Migrants seen lining up to board deportation flights

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:07 AM (RHGPo)

25 Damn it, Doof!

*shakes fist*

That's what I get for taking time to change my socks.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2025 11:01 AM (kgE5c)

*grins in the most goofy way possible*

Posted by: Doof at January 24, 2025 11:07 AM (gEQYA)

26 19 Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (iODuv)

Cue up advert of a little girl with ponytails crying her eyes out because her EZ-Bake oven doesn't bake.

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:07 AM (z+ik4)

27 22 Hear, hear!

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:07 AM (8VyQQ)

28 Lumb-ees failed because their bathrooms were vile.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (77rzZ)

29 Reality makes an appearance

Posted by: Zeera The people are coming at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (4wHWf)

30 >
I do have the cheekbones.

Nice. Do you have the family recipe book, though? With recipes using Old Bay seasoning. That's how you really know.

Did you ever go see the Lost Tribe pageant? Is it worth the trip, to there and to the lost colony site? It's still on my bucket list.

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (gWBY1)

31 Adam Schiff to Skip Trump Visit to California Wildfires for … Senate Votes .. and fear of Trump

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (RHGPo)

32 If the amount of money spent in CA alone was redirected toward CNG vehicles and refueling stations in CA, LA would have zero smog.

That's what Trump should do--remove the special exception CA has to regulate gasoline until 30% of all gas stations in LA, and 15% statewide, offer CNG.

CA: Choke on the smog or offer incentives for CNG--but the rest of the country shouldn't have to pay for your sins.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (2k0oQ)

33 @19

>>Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.

Sadly, they could undo the legislation but the primary manufacturer's of light bulbs have moved on and will not give up the higher margins from LED light bulbs.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)

34 Migrants seen lining up to board deportation flights

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:07 AM (RHGPo)

Do they have that big dude from the movie time bandits handing them a gift and then a right hook?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (VwHCD)

35
OT:

One thing I'd like to see an EO for is-

the release of all information related to the Las Vegas Massacre.

It's a slap in the face of all Americans that "no cause has ever been found".

Release the info and let's all see about that.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (iJfKG)

36 Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (iODuv)

Nice. Now do white goods and those crappy showerheads.
Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (z+ik4)

Get in line behind old school metal gas cans with a simple spout and vent-hole.

Posted by: Doof at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (gEQYA)

37 How is it possible that Trump looks like he's reverse aging?

Oh, and Milania's is a dime piece. Yowza.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (XV/Pl)

38 Price needs to get down to around $20k before I'd buy a new EV (and I'd never buy a used one unless it was almost new).

Posted by: illiniwek at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (Cus5s)

39 Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (iODuv)

Cue up advert of a little girl with ponytails crying her eyes out because her EZ-Bake oven doesn't bake.
Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:07 AM (z+ik4)

Nice!! There was a episode on The Big Bang Theory where the ladies were hiding away in a child's playhouse for some downtime, drinking wine and baking cookies in an EZ-Bake oven. It was hilarious.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (iODuv)

40 Now the truth comes out: Reporters admit Politico snuffed out Hunter Biden laptop story to protect Joe in 2020

... and we got four years of Dementia Joe

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (RHGPo)

41 And what is happening with gas stoves

Posted by: ... at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (pooZp)

42 And gas pipelines

Posted by: ... at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (pooZp)

43 Did you ever go see the Lost Tribe pageant? Is it worth the trip, to there and to the lost colony site? It's still on my bucket list.
Posted by: LizLem

I think Andy Griffith got his start in that.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (77rzZ)

44 Politico is the discount Buzzfeed.

Posted by: Grump928(C) repeats himself at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (tfOmD)

45 33 @19

>>Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.

Sadly, they could undo the legislation but the primary manufacturer's of light bulbs have moved on and will not give up the higher margins from LED light bulbs.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (XV/Pl)

That's market driven at least. Also, that very old capital equip for incandescent is getting too expensive to maintain.

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM (z+ik4)

46 40 Now the truth comes out: Reporters admit Politico snuffed out Hunter Biden laptop story to protect Joe in 2020

... and we got four years of Dementia Joe
Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (RHGPo)

======

Six states shutting down ballot counting in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall had more to do with Biden's win than snuffing out the Hunter Biden story.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM (GBKbO)

47 >>> Sadly, they could undo the legislation but the primary manufacturer's of light bulbs have moved on and will not give up the higher margins from LED light bulbs.

Maybe. But I bet the makers of higher flow shower heads and toilets will find brisk business if they bring them back.

*cue the Kramer episode*

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM (gWBY1)

48 Someone should do a health check on Jennifer Granholm.
I bet her stock portfolio has taken a yuuuuuge hit!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM (u1uWe)

49 Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (iODuv)

Nice. Now do white goods and those crappy showerheads.
Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (z+ik4)

Get in line behind old school metal gas cans with a simple spout and vent-hole.
Posted by: Doof at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (gEQYA)

Avenge me! A-Venge Me!!

Posted by: Freon at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM (Aqu9a)

50 And gas hookups

Remember when the libs insisted that Natural Gas was so clean and the way to go? They knew all along once they pushed everyone toward gas they could eventually shut it down. Just like they plan to do with electric.

Posted by: ... at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM (pooZp)

51 I think the EPA killed the baking cookies in an EZ-Bake oven

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:12 AM (RHGPo)

52 I feel like the Dems reactions to all of these EOs is kinda like seeing Hans Gruber the moment he falls from the Nakatomi tower, over and over again.

It's glorious

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at January 24, 2025 11:12 AM (wqlho)

53 "Now lets get some simpler, basic, affordable autos available."

Best cheap car I ever owned: Geo Metro XFi. Cost only $7700 new. Five speed stick, fun to drive. Insanely good fuel economy. Parking is easy: just put it in your pants pocket. Lasted 250K miles.

Downside: tin can deathtrap with (IIRC) no airbags. So I compensated by not colliding with stuff other than bugs.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:12 AM (8VyQQ)

54 the EPA waiver for CA to set their own standards and the EPA mandate for % of cars to be EV by (future years) are perfect examples of Congress delegation of authority to Executive branch. That needs to come to an end.
Posted by: susan harms at January 24, 2025 11:05 AM (Kkd7F)

But isn’t that actually a 10th Amendment violation? Nothing in the Constitution allows the Federal government to say what kind of cars California must sell. I don’t think CA should be able to mandate all EVs, either, but having Congress take back a power it never should have had seems equally wrong.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 24, 2025 11:12 AM (FC8SQ)

55 I think Andy Griffith got his start in that.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:10 AM (77rzZ)

Telling jokes during intermission.

Posted by: BignJames at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (Yj6Os)

56 I want a cyber truck body but with an internal combustion engine.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (rh3Pd)

57 The process at the end was totally automated. An episode on "How It's Made" had a segment on the manufacture of incandescent lamps. Wouldn't take much. Make in.......Mexico!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (iODuv)

58 >>Daughter of Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards gets baptized: "Jesus saved me from battling severe anxiety, and gave me a peace that makes no sense."

Wonder if her grandfather and uncle Emilio had a hand in this?

"The Way" is such a great movie. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (u1uWe)

59 Now do incandescent light bulbs. Give people a free choice.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (iODuv)

Nice. Now do white goods and those crappy showerheads.
Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (z+ik4)

Get in line behind old school metal gas cans with a simple spout and vent-hole.
Posted by: Doof

I want a toilet like they had in Gitmo that can suck down a koran.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (OOnTd)

60 Plug in hybrids? Those are in the mold of the Chevy Volt? Where the engine does not recharge the battery? That was the stupidest idea I ever saw.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (bss/y)

61 If it weren't a PITA to swap, incandescents in winter and LEDs in summer would be the way to go here.

I miss my old plasma Visio in the winter. That thing would heat the mancave all by itself.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (tfOmD)

62 Tell me DC judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly - with her June Cleaver haircut, and her government-issued, inside-the-beltway smirk - doesn't possess the most slappable face in Washington, right now.

https://tinyurl.com/3bjymmtk

Somehow, we need to find a way to deal with these Reich judges. The word "justice" is an obscenity in their mouths.

Posted by: Paco at January 24, 2025 11:14 AM (mADJX)

63 I want a toilet like they had in Gitmo that can suck down a koran.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (OOnTd)

You still need to burn it first.

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:14 AM (z+ik4)

64 EV may be dead, but it will all transition to hybrid. That's a step in the right direction, but it still saddles buyers with expensive powertrains they won't benefit from.

C&D recently did a comparo between gas and hybrid models of the same car. You'll have to drive your hybrid something like 150k miles (not joking) just to break even on gas savings versus the much-higher price of the hybrid. That's a dogshit deal for buyers.

If you truly want a hybrid, then fine. It's your money. I take delivery of a hi-performance hybrid later this year. But a lot of buyers will still be effectively deprived of a real choice.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:14 AM (iFTx/)

65 >>> Oh, and Milania's is a dime piece. Yowza.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (XV/Pl)

I loved her outfit with the aviator glasses and green coat when she was heading with Trump to check out the hurricane damage back east and the wildfire damage in CA. Her hair game was perfect.

Fashion is back!

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:14 AM (gWBY1)

66

I demand a nuclear powered 4x4 SUV/pickup available for $30k with a 5 year refueling cost of $1.5k!

Posted by: Elderly Git at January 24, 2025 11:14 AM (4gKmA)

67 58 Wonder if her grandfather and uncle Emilio had a hand in this?

"The Way" is such a great movie. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (u1uWe)

=======

My mother once had a very nice conversation with Martin Sheen about faith.

My mother does talks on Catholic topics from time to time and met him on one. I think it was about the book she wrote about the trip to Italy she made after my step-father died.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 24, 2025 11:14 AM (GBKbO)

68 EVs are objectively worse from a customer perspective.

Why pay more money for a car that will take 100X times as long to refuel?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (t0Rmr)

69 I want a toilet like they had in Gitmo that can suck down a koran.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:13 AM (OOnTd)
______

"Oh big boy, you're doing it wrong."

-- Kumswala Harris

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (iFTx/)

70 Some interesting auto engines are close to production.

Toyota has an ammonia-based fuel engine, IIRC. Supposed to be very low carbon emissions.

And there's another sort of a modified Wankle engine. It's two cylinders rotating end to end, a small gap connects them where the compressed fuel-air from the first enters the combustion chamber of the second.
It's pretty cool looking and supposed to be quite efficient.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (2k0oQ)

71 Adam Carolla make a joke on his show that the Cybertruck is the car of choice now for douchbags. Like how you can see a Subaru and predict lesbian: cybertruck, probably a douchbag.

It's a good joke, but he's kind of not wrong...
Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM

I move we cut Brandon Herrera some slack on his, since he mounted a .50 cal on it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (kgE5c)

72
Melania proves she could make a burlap fertilizer bag look good.

She looked damn good in the big winter coat, stocking cap, and aviator shades.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (w6EFb)

73 Maybe it's time for some sort of people's wagon vehicle?
Economical, easy to work on, plenty of aftermarket parts for customizable variants, ...

Just spitballin'

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (Aqu9a)

74 From DU:

"How Long Before Someone Is Killed in an ICE Raid?

Not long, I suspect. They've already falsely arrested a US citizen and military veteran in such a raid. Someone is going to resist being arrested and get killed. Guaranteed.

GUNG HO! Never mind training and discipline.

It's going to happen, and probably more than once."

Alternate question: How long before someone is killed by an illegal alien?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (a3Q+t)

75 The meme with the EVs hooked up to a gas generator really captures everything there is to know about the reality of EVs. Place that image next to the one of the EV battery factory fire? *chef's kiss*

Posted by: H at January 24, 2025 11:16 AM (4N/0w)

76 And gas hookups

Hot Rod me baby!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 24, 2025 11:16 AM (rh3Pd)

77
We are not even into Hour 96, yet...

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 24, 2025 11:16 AM (UXla0)

78 Daughter of Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards gets baptized: "Jesus saved me from battling severe anxiety, and gave me a peace that makes no sense."
Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:03 AM (RHGPo)

Her sister, who has an OF account... /sigh

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:16 AM (ExV1e)

79 Feel good vid of the day, if you haven't seen:

https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1882668074874425644

Bevelyn Williams reunited with her family after Trump's pardon. She was jailed for being a pro life protestor. Kissing her baby with such joy brought tears to my eyes!

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:16 AM (gWBY1)

80 Plug in hybrids? Those are in the mold of the Chevy Volt? Where the engine does not recharge the battery? That was the stupidest idea I ever saw.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Run dual alternators. One to power the vehicle. One to recharge the battery.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (OOnTd)

81 > Alternate question: How long before someone is killed by an illegal alien?
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Already happened. Several times.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (Q4IgG)

82 Someone earlier mentioned the Utica Shale one the fuels therein. Build a lot of nuclear plants, develop our hydrocarbons, and we are probably good to go insofar as energy needs until we evolve into something else.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (4780s)

83 Liberation Day Executive Orders & the Beginning of the End for the Failed EV Transition

But is it really the beginning of the end? I'd like to think so. But who's to say that this is just a 4-year hiatus of the radical environazi nonsense and once the radical left takes back the Executive Branch in 2029, we'll be right back to Obama-era and Biden-era environazi nonsense, pushed by the WEF on all western nations?

The WEF, and all their allies in the Deep States in every western nation, is not going to stop pushing this BS. It's all part of their grand Agenda 2030 plan, The Great Reset and all that. And they can still put that into place once President Trump's term is done January 2029.

The left has been lying about "global cooling" and "global warming" and "climate change" for the past 50+ years. And despite that, they have had massive success based on those lies to force radical environmental policies on western civilization.

I'd like to think that now things are different than the past, but there is too much money in "climate change" nonsense and the younger generations have all been indoctrinated into this religion. I guess time will tell.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (P5BPp)

84 48 Someone should do a health check on Jennifer Granholm.
I bet her stock portfolio has taken a yuuuuuge hit!
Posted by: Lizzy

She bailed out on a electric bus company stock a couple years ago and cleared over a million.

But, yes, there should be a "check" on her in the form of a federal investigation. I don't think she got a BidenPass.

Posted by: Auspex at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (j4U/Z)

85 Six states shutting down ballot counting in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall had more to do with Biden's win than snuffing out the Hunter Biden story./i]

It is instructive that the FNM doesn't even try to explain this one isn't it?

So the 6 states where the vote were close all claimed they were stopping counting after a sink overflowed in Atlanta and after the vote monitors went home started counting again. Give me a logical explanation for this outside of fraud

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (t0Rmr)

86 Shopping malls and big office buildings are having a bunch of issues. They all swapped out their big lighting fixtures for LED stuff. LED stuff doesn't put out nearly as much heat. Which means the heating systems they put in that were sized up expecting that heat to be there are now all massively underpowered. So they got to spend 100x what they "saved" by switching to LED (not to mention what they already spent on the lighting retro work itself) on new heating equipment.

Don't get me wrong, a bunch of people are making a bunch of dollars over it. Just not the property managers.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (+iIV1)

87
It's your money. I take delivery of a hi-performance hybrid later this year.

Which high performance hybrid?

And why? If you don't mind.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (iJfKG)

88 >>Now the truth comes out: Reporters admit Politico snuffed out Hunter Biden laptop story to protect Joe in 2020

Must've sucked when they quit in anger over such biased treatment of a presidential candidate by their editors/employer, huh?

Oh, right. . . . .

No points for admitting this 4 years AFTER the election, after Trump has survived two assassination attempts, won the presidency and has now been safely sworn in.

Remind me again why these people claim they are just like courageous firefighters?

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (u1uWe)

89 And there's another sort of a modified Wankle engine. It's two cylinders rotating end to end, a small gap connects them where the compressed fuel-air from the first enters the combustion chamber of the second.
It's pretty cool looking and supposed to be quite efficient.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (2k0oQ)

Wankle engine? Pffft. I just patented a Wanker Engine™!

Posted by: Bill Nye-Douchebag at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (iODuv)

90 I think the future of EVs is with hybrids. They make some sense, and if they can be competitively priced, I would consider buying one.

Probably not though.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (d9fT1)

91 85 It is instructive that the FNM doesn't even try to explain this one isn't it?

So the 6 states where the vote were close all claimed they were stopping counting after a sink overflowed in Atlanta and after the vote monitors went home started counting again. Give me a logical explanation for this outside of fraud
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (t0Rmr)

======

The non-partisan watchers were getting in the way of honest work!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (GBKbO)

92 Someone should do a health check on Jennifer Granholm.
I bet her stock portfolio has taken a yuuuuuge hit!
Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM

She's grifting just fine.

Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm Spends Final Days in Office Sending Billions to Home State, Defying Inspector General

Energy Department's inspector general warned that agency officials are not complying with conflict-of-interest rules

https://tinyurl.com/ytfc9f2c

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (tfOmD)

93 "How Long Before Someone Is Killed in an ICE Raid?

So SWATTING people is fine lefties but arresting criminals is not?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:19 AM (t0Rmr)

94 I want a simple, compact, i-c-e pick-up truck along the lines of what the Toyota Tacoma used to be.

Posted by: davidt at January 24, 2025 11:19 AM (i0F8b)

95
btw, I am quite disappointed (as usual) in You People. Why do you none of you recognize that idiotic jerkoff-ban law proposal as a Democrat Stunt created to embarrass Republicans?

This is their very dumb & foolish idea to try to make Republicans look foolish.

But...you fell for it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 24, 2025 11:19 AM (UXla0)

96 I demand a nuclear powered 4x4 SUV/pickup available for $30k with a 5 year refueling cost of $1.5k!
Posted by: Elderly Git

Accidents will be lit!

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:19 AM (OOnTd)

97 How many EOs have been stopped by Hawaiian judges? I know the birthright one was. That was a given. And scouts will have to rule.

But how many others? Is there a scorecard anywhere? Im sure all of them are or will be challenged.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:19 AM (vCQ/u)

98 Plug in hybrids? Those are in the mold of the Chevy Volt? Where the engine does not recharge the battery? That was the stupidest idea I ever saw.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Quick and Dirty solution.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (AiZBA)

99 I think the future of EVs is with hybrids. They make some sense, and if they can be competitively priced, I would consider buying one.

Probably not though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (d9fT1)
____

See my post above. Waste of money, except for exotics were the added power is a big selling point, and money is no object.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (iFTx/)

100 I think someone here mentioned that traffic lights with LED's tended to become unreadable when it snowed... or frosted... because the LED's don't put out the heat that regular lights do. Thus, snow would stick to the lights and nobody could tell if the light was red, yellow or green.

Same for street lights, IIRC.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)

101 Six states shutting down ballot counting in the middle of the night to ballot box stuff like Tammany Hall had more to do with Biden's win than snuffing out the Hunter Biden story.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 24, 2025 11:11 AM

Extremism in defense of our precious democracy is no vice.

Posted by: Nancy P. (D-CA) at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (a3Q+t)

102 I want a simple, compact, i-c-e pick-up truck along the lines of what the Toyota Tacoma used to be.
Posted by: davidt

Dat-soon? (Datsun)
Old joke.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (OOnTd)

103 Release the info and let's all see about that.
Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (iJfKG)

Pussy hat wearing Antifa goon. There is video of him at the protests in Reno. I think it was a gun deal gone bad.

Posted by: Reforger at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (xcIvR)

104 I think the future of EVs is with hybrids. They make some sense, and if they can be competitively priced, I would consider buying one.

Probably not though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

A former coworker of my wife's drives a hybrid that she swears by.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (77rzZ)

105 The Biden administration signing an Executive Order urging that auto manufacturers set a goal of 50% electric by 2030 was as “not legally binding” as a handshake loan with the Mob. Just about every story I’ve read about Trump reversing Biden’s mandate denies that there actually is a mandate, because Biden’s EO was “non-binding,” but that involves a degree of dishonest reporting because concurrent with the Biden EV Executive Order, the EPA also imposed new tailpipe emissions rules that could only be met by getting the fleet to about 50% electric.

It was nonbinding in the same way the Covid vaccine wasn't mandated.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Idisy)

106 But how many others? Is there a scorecard anywhere? Im sure all of them are or will be challenged.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:19 AM (vCQ/u)

If he does 50 to 100 a day, it'll be hard for them to keep up.

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (z+ik4)

107 How on earth did 6 year notes for cars get normalized?

Posted by: Leon's phone at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (v+w49)

108 Run dual alternators. One to power the vehicle. One to recharge the battery.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:17 AM (OOnTd)

See, I still like this idea: something like the diesel hybrid trains. A purpose built generator running off gas or diesel that does nothing to power the vehicle, but charges the battery. Seems like it would/could be more efficient, but maybe it does not scale well. Simplification as you just have electric motors for the wheels, not some sort of dual power system.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:21 AM (bss/y)

109 Adam Schiff to Skip Trump Visit to California Wildfires for … Senate Votes .. and fear of Trump
Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:08 AM (RHGPo)

Schiff (probably): The blazing fury of his towering masculinity makes me feel small and impotent and when I feel this way I have to murder an underage gay prostitute but Epstein's Island is shut down. Also, I have to stay in DC to wage an ineffectual protest against his cabinet appointments and stamp my little feet in rage.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:21 AM (ExV1e)

110 But isn’t that actually a 10th Amendment violation?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

Nope, commerce clause allows Congress to override state legislation. California can restrict its own automakers and what they make but not exclude those made elsewhere.

The Commerce Clause, above all else, was non controversial at the Convention because the beggaring thy neighbors policies after Independence that destroyed markets and the reason to even have a nation rather than a collection of tiny independent states.

Commerce clause's reach on internal trade in the nation is best described by John Marshall in Gibbons v. Ogden case.

There is a negative commerce clause doctrine that allows states to continue regulating their internal economy as they have since Independence but federal law can concurrently regulate or even supercede state laws restricting outside commerce.

Congress has a specific enumerated power to regulate commerce among the states and the 10th does not alter that as regulating commerce is a federal power first and states can regulate the residual. Not a reserved power.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)

111 Daughter of Charlie Sheen and Denise Richards gets baptized: "Jesus saved me from battling severe anxiety, and gave me a peace that makes no sense."
Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:03 AM

This looks like something that should have come out of "Kids Say the Darndest Things".

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2025 11:21 AM (kgE5c)

112 > Alternate question: How long before someone is killed by an illegal alien?

You mean like the Border Patrol agent killed on the Vermont border by a German trans who had overstayed his H1B visa? This happened on January 20th.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:21 AM (u1uWe)

113 You must really hate money to buy an ev. It’s like buying an iPhone. In 3 years it’ll have no value since it’s old tech.

If you want one, lease. There are ridiculous lease deals right now on EVs. I’m taking $200/mo with nothing down on $60k cars deals.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:21 AM (vCQ/u)

114 Just to be clear - Are Mr. Coffee powered DeLoreans off the table?

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 24, 2025 11:22 AM (Aqu9a)

115 How on earth did 6 year notes for cars get normalized?
Posted by: Leon's phone at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (v+w49)

Since they started costing more that my first house.

... get off my lawn

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at January 24, 2025 11:22 AM (AiZBA)

116 I'd love to see a diesel hybrid for a full-size pickup or sedan. Seems Iike a natural fit.

Posted by: Leon's phone at January 24, 2025 11:22 AM (v+w49)

117 And gas hookups

Hot Rod me baby!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 24, 2025 11:16 AM

Those certainly hot rod me!

Posted by: Eric Swalwell (D-CA & Cuck-CCP) at January 24, 2025 11:22 AM (a3Q+t)

118 I think the future of EVs is with hybrids. They make some sense, and if they can be competitively priced, I would consider buying one.

Probably not though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

A former coworker of my wife's drives a hybrid that she swears by.
Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (77rzZ)
______

So does my mom. But it cost her thousands more than the same car without the hybrid. "Look at my great gas mileage!" she says. "Yea sure," I say. "You pre-paid for 5 years of gas when you paid extra for the hybrid." She's just in denial.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (iFTx/)

119 >>She's grifting just fine.

Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm Spends Final Days in Office Sending Billions to Home State, Defying Inspector General

Of, FFS!

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (u1uWe)

120 "How many EOs have been stopped by Hawaiian judges?"

Ann Coulter has been making the good point that all these EOs have to be followed up by passed legislation, if the liberation is to last beyond 2028. Congress has two years to get it done.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (8VyQQ)

121 I'd love to see a diesel hybrid for a full-size pickup or sedan. Seems Iike a natural fit.
Posted by: Leon's phone at January 24, 2025 11:22 AM

Yeah, baby!

Posted by: EMD Locomotives at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (a3Q+t)

122 How on earth did 6 year notes for cars get normalized?

Uncle Sugar pays top dollar for all the bells and whistles and for some reason a number of citizens have followed suit and are plunking down $80K+ for a truck now

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)

123 Posted by: whig at January 24, 2025 11:21 AM (ctrM5)

Hey, Whig, thanks for the info on Thomas Paine that you posted at the end of the Art Thread.

He was an interesting guy. I should read up more on him.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:24 AM (77rzZ)

124 Odd. They did not seem so flustered about the possible accidental death of raids on pro-lifers or J6 guys.

Fuck them and their faux concern.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:24 AM (bss/y)

125 >A key order signed by Trump on Monday is to scrap the Biden administration’s push for 50% of all new vehicles sold in the US to be electric by 2030.
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how does Assistant to the Regional Manager Elon Musk feel about this

Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (AOsQT)

126 >>My mother does talks on Catholic topics from time to time and met him on one. I think it was about the book she wrote about the trip to Italy she made after my step-father died.

Very cool

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (u1uWe)

127 Just to be clear - Are Mr. Coffee powered DeLoreans off the table?
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 24, 2025 11:22 AM

Would you consider a Keurig-powered DeLorean?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (a3Q+t)

128 How on earth did 6 year notes for cars get normalized?

Uncle Sugar pays top dollar for all the bells and whistles and for some reason a number of citizens have followed suit and are plunking down $80K+ for a truck now
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (t0Rmr)
_________

There are 7 and even 8 year notes now. I think exotics can go as long as 10 years.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (iFTx/)

129 EVs are objectively worse from a customer perspective.

Why pay more money for a car that will take 100X times as long to refuel?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (t0Rmr)

Because it allows them to show everyone that they're better than you.

That's all leftism is, at its core - a deep, pressing need to be seen being better than someone else.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider, still gloating at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (bpljM)

130 But isn’t that actually a 10th Amendment violation? Nothing in the Constitution allows the Federal government to say what kind of cars California must sell. I don’t think CA should be able to mandate all EVs, either, but having Congress take back a power it never should have had seems equally wrong.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 24, 2025 11:12 AM (FC8SQ)

I would laugh myself sick if Cali sued on 10th Amendment grounds.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (ExV1e)

131 @107

>>How on earth did 6 year notes for cars get normalized?

Uhmm, when the average price of a new vehicle is a shade under 50k and the average car payment is 750 bucks, most people are not going to be able pay that off sooner, that would mean their monthly nut for a new vehicle would be around 1200 bucks.

Not doable for most people.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (XV/Pl)

132 Putin Describes Trump As 'Pragmatic' And 'Smart', Says Ukraine War Might Have Been Avoided If 2020 US Elections 'Had Not Been Stolen'

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (RHGPo)

133 Is Denise Richards still a 1?

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (77rzZ)

134 120 "How many EOs have been stopped by Hawaiian judges?"

Ann Coulter has been making the good point that all these EOs have to be followed up by passed legislation, if the liberation is to last beyond 2028. Congress has two years to get it done.
Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (8VyQQ)

And a judiciary that isn't full of traitors who will wreck it all, too.

It's almost like the whole thing is like a system of sorts, where the parts all need to be working and doing their jobs.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (+iIV1)

135 Adam Carolla make a joke on his show that the Cybertruck is the car of choice now for douchbags. Like how you can see a Subaru and predict lesbian: cybertruck, probably a douchbag.

It's a good joke, but he's kind of not wrong...
Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM (gWBY1)

I disagree. (I know, I know. It's a joke)

If, a YUGE luxurious "if", I had the money to waste on a fancy toy car of limited utility, I'd choose a Cybertruck, because-

I like what Elon is doing and has done for this country, and I want to reward that behavior.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (iJfKG)

136 Trumps EOs are brilliant strategy too. Instead of him begging congress to pass anything of his agenda, he went right over their heads and delivered the EOs he promised directly to the people. Now the congress will face their constituents instead of Trump alone.

Posted by: PJ at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (RRCAT)

137 Get in line behind old school metal gas cans with a simple spout and vent-hole.
Posted by: Doof at January 24, 2025 11:09 AM (gEQYA)

Obama ruining gas cans is one of those things that pisses me off way more than it probably should. It’s infuriating that you can’t buy a functional gas can in this country.

If Trump brings back real gas cans—and nothing else—he will still go down in history as our greatest President.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (FC8SQ)

138 There are 7 and even 8 year notes now. I think exotics can go as long as 10 years.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (iFTx/)

And the damn things are only designed to last 4-5 years, anyway.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (+iIV1)

139 133 Is Denise Richards still a 1?
Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (77rzZ)

She does an onlyfans (so I've heard.) I think she had passed into the decidedly leathery, post botox look.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (bss/y)

140 My neighbor has a plug in hybrid. That intrigues me. It’s a small battery that goes about 25 miles from full. Then once the juice runs out it kicks over to the regular engine.

There’s no range anxiety issues. There’s no waiting for 1/2 an hour to charge issues. There’s no cold weather issues. For a commuting car it’s damn near perfect. Plug at home overnight. In the morning the 25 miles is what you need to get to work and back. And if it ends up only giving you 23 miles or you need to go somewhere else, no problem, you have a full tank of gas as well.

That’s what manufacturers should focus on. They’d sell a ton of them.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (vCQ/u)

141 Hybrids are a "thing" in auto racing. Formula 1 has had them for a couple years. Turbo charged ICE with a battery system to provide additional power. The ICE recharges the batteries over and over during a race. The drivers "harvest" the extra electrical power during braking and "coasting."

WEC (World Endurance Cup)... those "exotic" sports cars have a hybrid system that is similar.

I would like to see something like this mainstreamed into ICE sports cars sold to the masses. We are the type of people that would either embrace it, or not. Justifying a move in that direction... or not. Same goes for the off road crowd. Joe average doesn't care either way.

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (Q4IgG)

142 Odd. They did not seem so flustered about the possible accidental death of raids on pro-lifers or J6 guys.

Remember the story of an old guy that posted something about doing something about...Biden?...on facebook that could have been read as call to assassination?

The feds showed up and shot him as soon as they got a line on him.

And the leftwing response was "FAFO"

So, any illegals that actually managed to get capped? Well hopefully it will persuade the rest to go home on their own

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (t0Rmr)

143 Adam Carolla make a joke on his show that the Cybertruck is the car of choice now for douchbags. Like how you can see a Subaru and predict lesbian: cybertruck, probably a douchbag.

It's a good joke, but he's kind of not wrong...
Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:06 AM

There's a dude out there who put a V12 engine in a cybertruck. I think there is another with a hemi. Thats doing it right. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (VwHCD)

144 90 I think the future of EVs is with hybrids. They make some sense, and if they can be competitively priced, I would consider buying one.

Probably not though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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I would agree with that in the near future. We are just now at the point of being able to evaluate long term costs of hybrids on key items such as regenerative brake wear, battery life, transmissions, etc.

Due to the rising cost of vehicles, average lifespan have been increasing to the point where vehicles are on the road about 16.5 years before being junked and about 150-160k miles in a 2023 study.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (ctrM5)

145 Make coal gas great again!!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom ! Kid at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (hirWM)

146 I demand a nuclear powered 4x4 SUV/pickup available for $30k with a 5 year refueling cost of $1.5k!
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A mini-reactor smaller than your current engine would have been commonplace but for the complete lies about nuclear.

Your rear axle would need replaced from wear before the engine ran out of fuel.

Nuclear reactors -- safe enough for submarines traveling all over the world, a fragile metal tube subject to thousands of pounds of varying external pressure, with hundreds of people living day and night within yards.
Zero radiation deaths in decades.

But also, too dangerous for land.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (2k0oQ)

147 "People don’t seem to be taking climate change seriously. They can blame Newsom. I mean, Trump is calling him names already. You know, it’s so low-level behavior. But the truth of the matter is that the climate is changing, and the Republican Party keeps rolling back anything that will help the situation. And to me, that is an egregious assault on Mother Nature. You know, there used to be an ad that’s not nice to fool with Mother Nature. They should start running that again.

At the awards show if, everybody who got up and received an award would make a statement about the climate. If missiles were coming into the country, we would all be up in arms. this is like a slow death and you’ll see more fires and mudslides and hurricanes and everything else. This is the existential threat we’re dealing with in this country and the world and nobody seems seems to pay attention to it."

-- Joy Behar

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (a3Q+t)

148 Adam Carolla has (or had at some point) a Tesla.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (vCQ/u)

149 Maybe one day there will be articles about Ford other than vehicle recalls.

Posted by: Oglebay at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (ogTiX)

150 🚨NEW: Rep. William Timmons (R-SC) says pardoned J6 Select Committee members should “expect a subpoena soon."

"Buckle up, because we're going to get to the bottom of the nonsense. select committee for January 6th."

"There's a reason that everybody on that committee was pardoned. It's because they were not telling the truth."

"They embellish, they lie, and we're going to show them exactly what happened."

“Because they're pardoned, they don't have an excuse not to come in and testify for us. So we're going to get to the bottom of this. Particularly the members that are no longer in office. Expect to expect a subpoena soon."

Timmons serves on the House Oversight Committee.

BREAKING WaPo:

An aide to Mike Johnson advised Republicans against subpoenaing Cassidy Hutchinson as part of their investigation into the Jan. 6 to prevent the release of sexually explicit texts that lawmakers sent her, according to written correspondence reviewed by The Post and a person familiar with the effort.

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (RHGPo)

151 139 133 Is Denise Richards still a 1?
Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM (77rzZ)

She does an onlyfans (so I've heard.) I think she had passed into the decidedly leathery, post botox look.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:26 AM (bss/y)

Another of those "Johnny Bench's old catcher's mitt / Hot dog in the hallway" episodes?

Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (z+ik4)

152
Breaking Now: Trump's second term an utter failure, rife with scandal and corruption. "He failed at everything," says anonymous Democrat familiar with the failure.

Posted by: Breaking Fake News! at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (UXla0)

153 While it’s too early to do a final victory dance, the “EV transition” has been stopped in its tracks, and thanks to Donald Trump’s EOs, there is no justification for auto manufacturers to pursue that folly any more.

Well, not so fast. No justification to pursue EVs at least through President Trump's Administration. You were correct with your first statement that it is WAY too early to do a victory dance. None of us knows if this MAGA movement is going to be the start of a long-term march through the institutions to take back sanity from the Marxist left who took over the institutions after the success of their Long March over the past 50-75 years... or if this is just a bump in the road to the Marxist Left's Agenda 2030 and WEF Great Reset for western civilization.

Time will tell. But you can bet the Marxist Left is never going to give up. And they have a massive worldwide network (hello Discover the Networks) of thousands of organizations and institutions they control. That is not going to be undone overnight.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (P5BPp)

154 Putin Describes Trump As 'Pragmatic' And 'Smart', Says Ukraine War Might Have Been Avoided If 2020 US Elections 'Had Not Been Stolen'

Putin said bringing Ukraine into NATO was a redline. Biden's people said they were going to do so while Biden himself told Putin he was ok with an invasion.

If Trump is president none of that happens.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (t0Rmr)

155 >>Odd. They did not seem so flustered about the possible accidental death of raids on pro-lifers or J6 guys.

As Homan has said: They wouldn't have to do the raids if these sanctuary cities/states would turn them over directly to DHS. Instead, they release them, and they go back into communities.

The Dems and MSM *want* these raids to go sideways, so they are making sure they are riskier than they have to be.

Given that they rolled by Myorkas' rule about no raids on churches or schools, expect propaganda set-up where a bunch of illegals hiding in a church are dragged out while praying and crying, etc.

Posted by: Lizzy at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (u1uWe)

156 I like the style of the cars of my youth but not the mechanics of them. Worn out at 100K miles and manually set points. Replacing plugs every 10K miles.

Seriously, CDI high voltage ignition is the greatest invention in the history of locomotion.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (tfOmD)

157 How on earth did 6 year notes for cars get normalized?

It's a puzzler.

Posted by: United Auto Workers Union at January 24, 2025 11:29 AM (aBgBM)

158 "Migrants seen lining up to board deportation flights"

Good ... after the first round of illegals leave on their own, we should offer to pay for the illegals' tickets if they will "self deport".

That would be better for them than going out in handcuffs, and cheaper for us. And it is the best way to get millions to leave instead of having to find them one by one. Maybe even offer another $500 as a parting gift (incentive) when they deplane in their home country.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 24, 2025 11:29 AM (Cus5s)

159 Is Denise Richards still a 1?
Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM

She must have has some work done, because she's looking a little...alien.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2025 11:29 AM (kgE5c)

160
There's a dude out there who put a V12 engine in a cybertruck. I think there is another with a hemi. Thats doing it right. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (VwHCD)

"We took this Cybertruck, and replaced the engine with the engine from an F-250! And then we replaced the rest of the Cybertruck with the rest of the F-250!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:29 AM (+iIV1)

161
Breaking: President Trump just renamed the WEF the American Economic Forum.

Posted by: Breaking Fake News! at January 24, 2025 11:29 AM (UXla0)

162 Ok I googled current pictures of Denise Richards. I think she looks pretty good for her age. She doesn't look like she did 20 years ago but not everyone can be Kate Beckinsale

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)

163 That’s what manufacturers should focus on. They’d sell a ton of them.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald
========
Possibly a good compromise as a lot of miles in suburbs and cities are short trips. But, automakers other than Toyota have experienced reliability problems with the new tech.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2025 11:30 AM (ctrM5)

164 Local MSM is freaking out that schools may lose funding if illegals are deported.

Well using that logic I guess we should import every kid from the world. Think of all the funding we’d get.

You don’t hate them enough.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:31 AM (vCQ/u)

165 Maybe even offer another $500 as a parting gift (incentive) when they deplane in their home country.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 24, 2025 11:29 AM (Cus5s)

And if we catch you back in here again, we take the $500 back and brand your forehead.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:31 AM (+iIV1)

166 Waste of money, except for exotics were the added power is a big selling point, and money is no object.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (iFTx/)

"if they can be competitively priced"

That is my point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2025 11:31 AM (d9fT1)

167 I coulda been a contendah.

Posted by: Canoo at January 24, 2025 11:31 AM (paSBy)

168 Alternate question: How long before someone is killed by an illegal alien?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 24, 2025 11:15 AM (a3Q+t)

Happened like the day after the inauguration. In Vermont. Traffic stop, I believe.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:31 AM (ExV1e)

169 @161

>>Breaking: President Trump just renamed the WEF the American Economic Forum.

He has become Colossus, bestriding the world, while mere mortals strut and peep beneath his feet.

Or looked at another way, he's the living embodiment of striking at Kings and missing.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:32 AM (XV/Pl)

170
Breaking Now!!:

President Trump just renamed IHOP to AHOPWPNHESALI, the American House of Pancakes, Wonderful Pancakes, Nobody Has Ever Seen Anything Like It

Posted by: Breaking Fake News! at January 24, 2025 11:32 AM (UXla0)

171 You know, there used to be an ad that’s not nice to fool with Mother Nature. They should start running that again.

-- Joy Behar

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (a3Q+t)

Prolly sell some margarine.

Posted by: BignJames at January 24, 2025 11:32 AM (Yj6Os)

172 Local MSM is freaking out that schools may lose funding if illegals are deported.

Someone should pair that story with Fairfax county going bankrupt because they are spending millions on teachers and aides for illegals.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:32 AM (t0Rmr)

173 Is Denise Richards still a 1?
Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:25 AM

***

Her Adams Apple is a solid Menards 7

Posted by: Life of Wryly at January 24, 2025 11:32 AM (1FWWQ)

174 170 Ha!

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (8VyQQ)

175 Thx Buck. I believe the Biden administration gave Rivian a big loan in their way out the door. The taxpayer will be hosed

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (6v8aM)

176 "It’s like buying an iPhone. In 3 years it’ll have no value since it’s old tech."

My 2020 iPhone SE2 still has value to me. Paid off, too.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (KAi1n)

177 I've been bitching about the over-complication of modern cars for a long time here, how all that complexity adds to cost and is pushing it outside the income of normal people (or else squeezing out other major purchases they should be making). Every time I do, multiple people say "But power everything, sync, and seat warmers!"

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (Idisy)

178 IIRC something like a third of all violent crime in America is caused by illegals.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (t0Rmr)

179 Another of those "Johnny Bench's old catcher's mitt / Hot dog in the hallway" episodes?
Posted by: Roy at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (z+ik4)

Kind of a joker like face thing.

https://tinyurl.com/53fvj65s

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (bss/y)

180 164 Local MSM is freaking out that schools may lose funding if illegals are deported.

So their budget predictions are based on having illegals in the seats. Welp, they can lose funding until they shed worthless employees just to survive.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (lXoJ5)

181 Seriously, CDI high voltage ignition is the greatest invention in the history of locomotion.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (tfOmD)

Nah. Interval wipers and heated seats were.

Posted by: Reforger at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (xcIvR)

182
I think my #170 is worthy of a Gutfeld intro joke.

Posted by: Soothsayer at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (UXla0)

183 175 Thx Buck. I believe the Biden administration gave Rivian a big loan in their way out the door. The taxpayer will be hosed
Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 24, 2025 11:33 AM (6v8aM)

Didn't Rivian just get some huge contract with Amazon or something?

Probably all kinds of funny money going around there.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (+iIV1)

184 I think the future of EVs is with hybrids. They make some sense, and if they can be competitively priced, I would consider buying one.

Probably not though.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2025 11:18 AM (d9fT1)

When the lovely and globe-trotting Mrs naturalfake and I were driving around France a couple of years ago, the car we rented was a Mitsubishi Hybrid.

I was not happy at the time, however not turned out to be a great car to drive and tour in, as well as kinda neat cuz it would recharge a bit as you drove on gas.

However, you could never ever depend on a recharge place being available. But the gas engine was peppy and the car drove well.

I came away impressed enough that I would consider a hybrid if ass you say the pricing was competitive.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (iJfKG)

185 What can be done about the Resistance states, such as New York, who will seek to impose their own rules about EV sales, about sales of gas ranges and heaters, pipelines, and more?

Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (KiBMU)

186 Apparently NGO's are still flying illegals into our country. Not sure if those were prearranged and already "approved" or what.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 24, 2025 11:35 AM (Cus5s)

187 162 Ok I googled current pictures of Denise Richards. I think she looks pretty good for her age. She doesn't look like she did 20 years ago but not everyone can be Kate Beckinsale
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)

Valid. Or Susanna Hoffs or Liz Hurley.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:35 AM (bss/y)

188 So their budget predictions are based on having illegals in the seats. Welp, they can lose funding until they shed worthless employees just to survive.

A town near me had a budget fight mostly over the school budget.

One of the opponents pointed out the budget was already up 100% over the last 10 years while actual students in seats was down by 33%.

And the answer from the school system was..."so? what does that have to do with anything?"

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:35 AM (t0Rmr)

189 A key order signed by Trump on Monday is to scrap the Biden administration’s push for 50% of all new vehicles sold in the US to be electric by 2030. While this was only ever a goal and not legally binding, many car manufacturers had thrown their support behind it.

Automakers had no choice but to "throw their support behind it", because of the massive penalties that were in place (until Trump's EO) for not adhering to it. The EPA regulations stated that if the automakers did not meet emissions regulations they would be banned from selling automobiles. If they did not meet the fuel economy regulations, they would be fined a massive amount for every 0.1mpg they were deficient from target. These fines would have put every automaker out of business. Which is the WEF "you will own nothing and be happy" plan.

The regulations (set in motion during the Obama Administration, paused during Trump 45, back in place during Biden) that were set to go into effect in January 2025 were so ridiculous, that EVs were the only feasible way to meet them. And since product development of a vehicle takes 3-5 years, the planning for vehicles released in 2025 started in 2020-2022.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 24, 2025 11:35 AM (P5BPp)

190 What can be done about the Resistance states, such as New York, who will seek to impose their own rules about EV sales, about sales of gas ranges and heaters, pipelines, and more?
Posted by: Mr Gaga

Let them. They will only hurt themselves.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 24, 2025 11:35 AM (OOnTd)

191 185 What can be done about the Resistance states, such as New York, who will seek to impose their own rules about EV sales, about sales of gas ranges and heaters, pipelines, and more?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (KiBMU)

Their people will leave. Or at least go shopping out of state.

Self solving problem, kind of.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:36 AM (+iIV1)

192 182
I think my #170 is worthy of a Gutfeld intro joke.
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (UXla0)

Just go with AHOP.
A good joke is short, clear and clever.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 24, 2025 11:36 AM (W/lyH)

193 164 Local MSM is freaking out that schools may lose funding if illegals are deported.

Well using that logic I guess we should import every kid from the world. Think of all the funding we’d get.

You don’t hate them enough.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:31 AM (vCQ/u)

Local schools WILL lose a portion of Dept Of Education funding, that is doled-out on a per fannie in classroom seats basis.

One reason why Kamala /spit/ went after parents of truant kids so hard. She was sending a message to parents to get their kids into school, daily. The spice must flow.

Posted by: Gref at January 24, 2025 11:36 AM (aBgBM)

194 I think someone here mentioned that traffic lights with LED's tended to become unreadable when it snowed... or frosted... because the LED's don't put out the heat that regular lights do. Thus, snow would stick to the lights and nobody could tell if the light was red, yellow or green.

Same for street lights, IIRC.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (Q4IgG)

Didn't someone report that some locale was installing electric heaters to deal with the issue? I know it sounds stupid but the heaters would only run some of the time so there'd still be energy savings.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:36 AM (ExV1e)

195 Waste of money, except for exotics were the added power is a big selling point, and money is no object.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (iFTx/)

"if they can be competitively priced"

That is my point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 24, 2025 11:31 AM (d9fT1)
_____________

True, but adding hybrid tech is a significant amount of hardware and tech. It will always add thousands to the cost for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:37 AM (iFTx/)

196
Just go with AHOP.
A good joke is short, clear and clever.
Posted by: Diogenes

This is why you never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at January 24, 2025 11:37 AM (UXla0)

197 I bought a Prius hybrid almost fifteen years ago for my kids to use. It was a great vehicle, reliable, and it got outstanding mileage out of a tank of gas. I'd look at a hybrid again, if I were ever to buy another car, which I hope I don't.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 24, 2025 11:38 AM (c4fmL)

198 Got a panicked email from a vendor about Trump dismantling the DEIA offices (the "A" stands for "Accessibility."

They're calling for an emergency meeting across higher education systems to review what this means for accessibility in higher education. Somehow they believe that ALL accessibility support will go away (spoiler: it won't--ADA is still the law as far as I know).

Kind of hilarious to be in the middle of the panic...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 24, 2025 11:38 AM (7fElN)

199 My old s-10 blazer has a gravity drive.

9.8 m/s^2, baby.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:39 AM (+iIV1)

200 A former coworker of my wife's drives a hybrid that she swears by.
Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:20 AM (77rzZ)

I have a hybrid and I love it. More range, significantly better gas mileage (although there are additional reasons for that beyond just being hybrid).

I don't think they should be mandated, not even soft-mandated via CAFE, but I really like mine.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:39 AM (ExV1e)

201 "How many EOs have been stopped by Hawaiian judges?"

Ann Coulter has been making the good point that all these EOs have to be followed up by passed legislation, if the liberation is to last beyond 2028. Congress has two years to get it done.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM

Not necessarily. Most of the EO's on border security that Trump has singed basically say that the federal government will now comply with federal laws already on the books, biden was ignoring or rewriting the actual written immigration laws for years. Same with the EO's that killed all of the DIE stuff in the government. DIE was against all sort of US state and federal laws on the books but again everyone ignored the laws to implement their anti-white agenda.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at January 24, 2025 11:39 AM (Rcnd3)

202 Elon took $9 billion in private capital and is now launching a rocket every three days out less. Peter Bootyjuice and the federal government took $7 billion and built 8 electric car chargers. Nero Newscum took $11 billion and built 1100 feet of concrete bridge. Kumallah took $45 billion and connected ZERO PEOPLE TO HIGH SPED INTERNET.

GOVERNMENT IS FAILURE.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable at January 24, 2025 11:39 AM (17s+e)

203
Truth is, women can't stay hot forever

Time is cruel, and no one is spared
remember them at their best

Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:39 AM (AOsQT)

204 Had they continued hybrid technology in cars, we'd be at a place most people could stomach. It was a good idea, charging the car as it drove with no exterior charging involved.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:39 AM (PMtkd)

205 One reason why Kamala /spit/ went after parents of truant kids so hard. She was sending a message to parents to get their kids into school, daily. The spice must flow.
Posted by: Gref at January 24, 2025 11:36 AM (aBgBM)

My whole neighborhood had Chicken Pox on one counting day. They made us all go in.

Posted by: Reforger at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (xcIvR)

206 Actually, I don't know if it was an EO but a document from Trump mentioned the light bulbs, toilets and gas stoves. I think they still make incandescents for the Mexican market.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (NQtI0)

207 Seriously, CDI high voltage ignition is the greatest invention in the history of locomotion.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (tfOmD)

Nah. Interval wipers and heated seats were.
Posted by: Reforger at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (xcIvR)

Independent, steerable front wheels, rather than a solid, cylindrical rock.

Posted by: Fred Flintsone at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (Aqu9a)

208 @184

>>I came away impressed enough that I would consider a hybrid if ass you say the pricing was competitive.

Hybrids are interesting but ultimately, because of their complexity and the general inability for the average person to work on them, they will have a shorter usable life expectancy and utility overall.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (XV/Pl)

209 58
‘ Wonder if her grandfather and uncle Emilio had a hand in this?’

I don’t agree with Martin Sheen politically but I give him respect for being a sincere, principled Catholic.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (jbnUc)

210 >>> This is their very dumb & foolish idea to try to make Republicans look foolish.
But...you fell for it.Posted by: Soothsayer at January 24, 2025 11:19 AM (UXla0)

You as in the royal you? Or specific Horde members?

Yeah, I think it's clearly an attempt for dems to renew a wedge between the new Trump voters that were formerly solid dem, and the social issues they probably don't care about or shoved aside to vote Trump. But the new Trump voters, especially the Gen X ones, saw the left go all in on the Tipper Gore, Dana carvey as church lady, scolding over social issues. And they still voted Trump. Hopefully they aren't fooled.

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (gWBY1)

211 I don't think they should be mandated, not even soft-mandated via CAFE, but I really like mine.

In a capitalist system companies try to produce what their consumers want. This is often a range of products because people have different needs and wants.

Socialism has problems with this because in a command and control economy it is easy to standardize on whatever the leadership wants. See for example Bernie Sanders complaining there are too many types of shampoo.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)

212 My whole neighborhood had Chicken Pox on one counting day. They made us all go in.
Posted by: Reforger at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (xcIvR)

------

???

You simply say, "no."

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:41 AM (PMtkd)

213 PDT needs to order the National Highway Administration to rescind its requirements for spyware in vehicles beginning with 2026 models.

Posted by: Gref at January 24, 2025 11:41 AM (aBgBM)

214 Truth is, women can't stay hot forever
Posted by: Don Black

'Ettes excepted, of course.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)

215 So does my mom. But it cost her thousands more than the same car without the hybrid. "Look at my great gas mileage!" she says. "Yea sure," I say. "You pre-paid for 5 years of gas when you paid extra for the hybrid." She's just in denial.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM (iFTx/)

More stuff to break, more expensive to repair. Those hybrid batteries are dangerous to work with.

Modern ICE engines are extremely well-engineered products. Efficient, powerful, reliable, cheap, lower “carbon footprint” to manufacture than an EV battery pack. The biggest problem with modern ICE vehicles is gov’t regs and corporate cost-cutting have pushed things too far. See: pickup trucks that can allegedly tow 7000 lbs powered by an over-driven turbo I4.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (FC8SQ)

216 60 ‘ Plug in hybrids?’
Regular Hybrids with a longer lasting charge.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (jbnUc)

217 Ann Coulter has been making the good point that all these EOs have to be followed up by passed legislation, if the liberation is to last beyond 2028. Congress has two years to get it done.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM

Is Adams Apple Ann still around? Man did she shit in her own hat.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (ewjUl)

218 greatest invention in the history of locomotion.

Sunroof top, diamond in the back. And a Mr Microphone.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle for festive little hats at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (rh3Pd)

219 Spiteful federal government workers have vowed to boycott struggling mom-and-pop businesses near their offices after Donald Trump banned remote working.

.. frankly, this sounds like somebody who has been going into the office all along and doesn't want to get stuck behind lines of newly returned coworkers.

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

220 Truth is, women can't stay hot forever
Posted by: Don Black

'Ettes excepted, of course.
Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:41 AM (77rzZ)

Jennifer Aniston stayed hot long enough to catch O’s eye (sarc off)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 24, 2025 11:43 AM (5MZNC)

221 The introduction of rubber floor mats was a milestone in the history of the automobile

Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:43 AM (AOsQT)

222
Does this mean that my dearly wished for dreams of being able to race in Road Guano Slalom and Road Guano Giant Slalom will go unfulfilled?

Road Guano Demolition Derbies, too?!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 11:43 AM (xG4kz)

223 I axed my teenager do you want a new EV for a car or an old regular car. Because they’re basically the same price.

Kid didn’t even think for a minute. Said no EV. Is afraid an EV would bing about much pointing and laughing. Kid goes to a school that attracts students from a wide range of socio economic backgrounds. What kid was really saying “I don’t want the rednecks keying the car every day” 🤣

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:43 AM (vCQ/u)

224 True, but adding hybrid tech is a significant amount of hardware and tech. It will always add thousands to the cost for the foreseeable future.
Posted by: Elric The Blade
--------
Depends on how many miles you are driving, resale value, and overall length of time before really expensive components brake down. Priuses, as mentioned above, have pretty much met the test for a long lasting, fuel sipping, vehicle that has components that last long enough for payback. Other makes and models, we don't have as long a timeframe to evaluate TCO. But, if you were buying an autostock, Toyota would be the one to watch to gain market share (tesla is in its own lane). Tesla seems to be at the forefront of EVs and Toyota is at the forefront of hybrids across their lineup.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (ctrM5)

225 Establishment media personalities say they are already worn out from covering President Donald Trump and his resurgent drive to deliver the “Golden Age of America.” Media elites did not have to work very hard during the previous administration.

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (RHGPo)

226 but not everyone can be Kate Beckinsale
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:30 AM (t0Rmr)

Valid. Or Susanna Hoffs or Liz Hurley.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:35 AM (bss/y)

Have you guys been eavesdropping on my social media feeds?? The Algorithm knows me well.

Posted by: Doof at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (gEQYA)

227 Is Adams Apple Ann still around? Man did she shit in her own hat.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (ewjUl)

-----

Yeah, I can't figure her out. She can say intelligent things and then immediately say something stupid.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (PMtkd)

228 219 Spiteful federal government workers have vowed to boycott struggling mom-and-pop businesses near their offices after Donald Trump banned remote working.

.. frankly, this sounds like somebody who has been going into the office all along and doesn't want to get stuck behind lines of newly returned coworkers.
Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (RHGPo)

I hate you so much, I am going to shoot this random person over here. Because I am a person of iron clad principle...
-Govt whore workers

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (bss/y)

229 the general inability for the average person to work on them

Can the average person really work on any reasonably newish vehicle?

Ford has made changing the battery to my low-end car a rage-inducing chore through shit design. So shitty it has to be conscious. I do it. But the rage.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (Idisy)

230 "greatest invention in the history of locomotion. "

Windshield.

After that, everything else was just an add-on

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (a1415)

231 You simply say, "no."
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:41 AM (PMtkd)

It was in the '70's. Before "no" was a thing.

Posted by: Reforger at January 24, 2025 11:45 AM (xcIvR)

232 What i want to know, is if everyone is working from home these days, then why the hell are they all out on the road every damn minute of the day?

Seriously, we used to have "rush hour", now we got "unbroken conga line of dipshits from 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM"

Where are all you fuckers going if you're not going to work?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:45 AM (+iIV1)

233 Spiteful federal government workers have vowed to boycott struggling mom-and-pop businesses near their offices after Donald Trump banned remote working.

DC voted 90% Kumswala. So whatever. Let the businesses go under. Why should I give a fuck about this blue on blue violence?

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:45 AM (vCQ/u)

234 TMZ:
The Tennessee school shooter apparently drew his inspiration for his deadly rampage from the likes of Candace Owens and Adolf Hitler -- and he was even photographed doing a Nazi salute. Solomon Henderson, 17, who fatally shot a 16-year-old student and injured two others at Antioch High School in Nashville -- posed for a picture mimicking the dead German Nazi leader, which is downright chilling considering Henderson's age and his vicious crimes.

Posted by: SMOD at January 24, 2025 11:45 AM (RHGPo)

235 I like the style of the cars of my youth but not the mechanics of them. Worn out at 100K miles and manually set points. Replacing plugs every 10K miles.

Seriously, CDI high voltage ignition is the greatest invention in the history of locomotion.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:28 AM (tfOmD)

yeah, no kidding. I have a fully restored 1969 plymouth roadrunner. CDI was a must, electronic voltage regulator was a must. I updated the suspension for modern radial tires, drives like a dream...in a straight line. Compared to my modern car it still feels like a 55 gallon drum with wheels. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 11:45 AM (VwHCD)

236 Is Adams Apple Ann still around? Man did she shit in her own hat.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:42 AM (ewjUl)

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Yeah, I can't figure her out. She can say intelligent things and then immediately say something stupid.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (PMtkd)

I always got a very grifter vibe from her… from the very beginning.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at January 24, 2025 11:45 AM (5MZNC)

237
Watching Critical Drinker and the figure of 40% drop in film/streaming production in Hollywood BEFORE the fires was mentioned. That's a depression.

Oh, but Bob Iger just got a sweet bonus and stock deal from Disney, so...

Posted by: Auspex at January 24, 2025 11:46 AM (j4U/Z)

238 I think my #170 is worthy of a Gutfeld intro joke.
Posted by: Soothsayer at January 24, 2025 11:34 AM (UXla0)

He was on fire a couple of days ago on The Five. He was yelling at that Jessica chick so loud that I actually thought he was going to reach across the table and smack her. She wouldn't shut up. His veins were popping out on his neck. Holy crap!

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 11:46 AM (iODuv)

239 "Can the average person really work on any reasonably newish vehicle?"

In a word, no.
I bought a 2024 SUV.
I can't even add air to the tires. N2.
Having said that, I really like it.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 24, 2025 11:46 AM (c6hLR)

240 What i want to know, is if everyone is working from home these days, then why the hell are they all out on the road every damn minute of the day?

Millions of illegals driving to and home from the rich neighborhoods in your area.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:46 AM (t0Rmr)

241 Beginning of the End for the EV Transition

Nooooo! That's not true! That's impossible!

Posted by: Joe Xiden at January 24, 2025 11:47 AM (D0HYP)

242
Pneumatic tires

game-changer

Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:47 AM (AOsQT)

243 The Tennessee school shooter apparently drew his inspiration for his deadly rampage from the likes of Candace Owens and Adolf Hitler -- and he was even photographed doing a Nazi salute.

Wait is this the tranny shooter or did they have another one?

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:47 AM (t0Rmr)

244 Watching Critical Drinker and the figure of 40% drop in film/streaming production in Hollywood BEFORE the fires was mentioned. That's a depression.

Oh, but Bob Iger just got a sweet bonus and stock deal from Disney, so...
Posted by: Auspex at January 24, 2025 11:46 AM (j4U/Z)

They told 50% of their market (at least) to fuck off chasing 1% of the market that did not watch their films anyway.

So they are still valued high.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (bss/y)

245 @229

>>Can the average person really work on any reasonably newish vehicle?

The newest vehicle in my stable is a 2020 Honda Pilot V6, its still under warranty but when the warranty lapses, I can easily work on the engine, suspension and drive train components.

And if I play my cards right, and with a little luck, I'll be dead by the time I need a new vehicle.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (XV/Pl)

246 I bought a Dodge Colt when I graduated college. No radio 4 speed manual. No bells and whistles at all. Loved that car and how simplistic it was. One could not purchase a car like that any longer because all the cars now have to have all the whiz bang shit in it.

Posted by: Life of Wryly at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (1FWWQ)

247 Ford has made changing the battery to my low-end car a rage-inducing chore through shit design. So shitty it has to be conscious. I do it. But the rage.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM

Try to change the headlights on my GMC, worse, my Jeep. You might as well get some band-aids and make a chiro appointment. And prepare to spend well north of an hour doing so. I, hey let's make this thing surrounded by sharp metal and be a contortionist to get to! Brillant engineering fellas.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (ewjUl)

248
However!

However, Soothsayer's Rule #215:

Any device or product that claims to be 2-in-1 or multifunctional usually does Nothing well. For instance, shampoo/conditioner, or car wash/wax, or loader/backhoe.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (UXla0)

249 Windshield.

After that, everything else was just an add-on
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 24, 2025 11:44 AM (a1415)

Electric starters. Before that everything was a potential death trap.

Posted by: Reforger at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (xcIvR)

250 This is why we need fact checkers.

Ben Domenech@bdomenech
"There is no shortage of water in the Los Angeles area. The reservoirs are at or above historical levels. The water is there." - @CNN fact checker Daniel Dale

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You probably fell for that Trump lie that reservoirs were empty.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (L/fGl)

251 The introduction of rubber floor mats was a milestone in the history of the automobile
Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:43 AM (AOsQT)

Throwing them in free sold me on the $50k car.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (tfOmD)

252 Need Moron help. I know this is manipulative alinsky tactics 101, but how would you refute it?

@other98
(Pic of the episcopal church scold lady trying to get Trump at the national cathedral hijack)
If you hear a call for compassion and basic human empathy and feel like you are being attacked, then that's a YOU problem.

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (gWBY1)

253 243 The Tennessee school shooter apparently drew his inspiration for his deadly rampage from the likes of Candace Owens and Adolf Hitler -- and he was even photographed doing a Nazi salute.

Wait is this the tranny shooter or did they have another one?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:47 AM (t0Rmr)

This was the non-tranny shooter ... last week?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (bss/y)

254 from the likes of Candace Owens and Adolf Hitler

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Hey, dumbasses at TMZ those two individuals are 180 degrees apart.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (PMtkd)

255
ashtray: quantum leap
cup holder: am I on Star Trek or what
air conditioning: I have become one with the universe

Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (AOsQT)

256 Wait is this the tranny shooter or did they have another one?
Posted by: 18-1

There was another one a couple of days ago.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (77rzZ)

257 Work from home applies to office workers obviously. There are still people who need to be onsite. All blue collar jobs, research/lab jobs, anything medial, restaurant workers. The list is long. Then all the Ubers and Amazon trucks and Doordash delivery people.

Traffic might be helped a little with WFH. But is a small drop in the bucket relative to everyone else on the road.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:50 AM (vCQ/u)

258 there is no need for ev's because carbon is not a poison, it's the earth's life blood, it is instrisic in every organic and inorganic process,

Posted by: miguel cervantes at January 24, 2025 11:50 AM (dJR17)

259 "I bought a Dodge Colt when I graduated college."

That one didn't work out for me. Motor mounts broke before 100K.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:50 AM (8VyQQ)

260 Hybrids are interesting but ultimately, because of their complexity and the general inability for the average person to work on them, they will have a shorter usable life expectancy and utility overall.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:40 AM (XV/Pl)

The average person hasn't worked on any car built in the past 25 years. Maybe an oil change but my hybrid does that in exactly the same way a non-hybrid does.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:51 AM (ExV1e)

261 Canada went all in on EV's.

Trump's going to frick up our incompetent parasites royally.

Sweet.

Posted by: Stateless...22% - mental state clawing up from 10% at January 24, 2025 11:51 AM (jvJvP)

262 I don’t agree with Martin Sheen politically but I give him respect for being a sincere, principled Catholic.
Posted by: Dr. Claw

I wonder what he thinks of Pope Frankie. Has he said anything about that?

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:51 AM (77rzZ)

263 Any device or product that claims to be 2-in-1 or multifunctional usually does Nothing well. For instance, shampoo/conditioner, or car wash/wax, or loader/backhoe.
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What about Swiss Army Knives, Leatherman Super Tool 300s and Thai Ladyboys?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 24, 2025 11:51 AM (Wg6v7)

264 the EPA waiver for CA to set their own standards and the EPA mandate for % of cars to be EV by (future years) are perfect examples of Congress delegation of authority to Executive branch. That needs to come to an end.
Posted by: susan harms at January 24, 2025 11:05 AM (Kkd7F)

But isn’t that actually a 10th Amendment violation? Nothing in the Constitution allows the Federal government to say what kind of cars California must sell. I don’t think CA should be able to mandate all EVs, either, but having Congress take back a power it never should have had seems equally wrong.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 24, 2025 11:12 AM (FC8SQ)

Give back the power of the 10th as it is intended in the constitution. If a state ruins itself, then it doesn't affect any other states.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 24, 2025 11:51 AM (g8Ew8)

265 And if I play my cards right, and with a little luck, I'll be dead by the time I need a new vehicle.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 24, 2025 11:48 AM (XV/Pl)

If I'm lucky, I'll be dead...

...for certain values of luck.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (iJfKG)

266 from the likes of Candace Owens and Adolf Hitler

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Hey, dumbasses at TMZ those two individuals are 180 degrees apart.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM

They are, but Candace lost me with all her anti Israel shit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (ewjUl)

267 I was going to do a brake job on my truck this week but, snow.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (tfOmD)

268 The average person hasn't worked on any car built in the past 25 years. Maybe an oil change but my hybrid does that in exactly the same way a non-hybrid does.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:51 AM (ExV1e)

People today spend $12 in delivery fees to get McDonald’s delivered instead of driving 3 minutes to pick it up. tThe days of working on your car are, as you say, loooooooooong gone.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (vCQ/u)

269 I would like to have one of those remote starter doohickeys

for the mornings when the truck is covered in new snow

Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (AOsQT)

270 there is only man and woman, that's at the beginning of the book

Posted by: miguel cervantes at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (dJR17)

271 Hey, dumbasses at TMZ those two individuals are 180 degrees apart.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (PMtkd)

Ehhh, Owens had apparently been on a bit of a "hey maybe the Jooos really do run the world and ruin everything" jag for a while there. Same general vector even if wildly different magnitudes.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (+iIV1)

272 Seriously, CDI high voltage ignition is the greatest invention in the history of locomotion.

Agree. But, the advent of synthetic lubricants has also drastically lengthened mechanical lives of engines, transmissions, suspensions, differentials, etc. CNC machining and computer/precise design have been important, too.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at January 24, 2025 11:53 AM (ha1wR)

273 This is a glorious moment,

We've got years of fireworks to look forward to.

Posted by: DaveA at January 24, 2025 11:53 AM (FhXTo)

274 People today spend $12 in delivery fees to get McDonald’s delivered instead of driving 3 minutes to pick it up. tThe days of working on your car are, as you say, loooooooooong gone.

I tried doordash once. The delivery cost more than the food...before tipping the driver.

Not worth it.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:53 AM (t0Rmr)

275
What about Swiss Army Knives, Leatherman Super Tool 300s and Thai Ladyboys?
Posted by: Pudinhead

Exactly! You proved my point.

Can a Swiss Army Knife do anything better than each of its implements as standalones? Nope.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at January 24, 2025 11:53 AM (UXla0)

276 So the President of Portland State University has announced she (?) will not support ICE efforts on campus.
I may have to stock up on popcorn and drive down for this.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 24, 2025 11:53 AM (W/lyH)

277 I had an 09 Jetta that I did most of the hum drum work on. That car was fun and reliable.

Posted by: Life of Wryly at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (1FWWQ)

278 Ehhh, Owens had apparently been on a bit of a "hey maybe the Jooos really do run the world and ruin everything" jag for a while there. Same general vector even if wildly different magnitudes.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM

She's dead to me and can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (ewjUl)

279 C&D recently did a comparo between gas and hybrid models of the same car. You'll have to drive your hybrid something like 150k miles (not joking) just to break even on gas savings versus the much-higher price of the hybrid. That's a dogshit deal for buyers.

If you truly want a hybrid, then fine. It's your money. I take delivery of a hi-performance hybrid later this year. But a lot of buyers will still be effectively deprived of a real choice.

Posted by: Elric The Blade at January 24, 2025 11:14 AM

This was known back in at least 2008. That is when Ford (where I worked at the time) was offering a new hybrid version of their Ford Escape. I calculated the cost difference and estimated gasoline savings and it took between 5-7 years I think to break even.

Which is why the government had to give out the $7500 EV subsidies to get people to buy them. Without that, EVs are not money savers.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (P5BPp)

280 mother once had a very nice conversation with Martin Sheen about faith.
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TJM, Bishop Sheen, or Marty Sheen? Only one makes sense.

Posted by: From about That Time at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (4780s)

281 In a capitalist system companies try to produce what their consumers want. This is often a range of products because people have different needs and wants.

Socialism has problems with this because in a command and control economy it is easy to standardize on whatever the leadership wants. See for example Bernie Sanders complaining there are too many types of shampoo.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:41 AM (t0Rmr)

I suspect, if left alone, that Toyota would be to hybrids what Tesla is to EVs - not that they're far from that now. Other car makers could try to find their niche to excel.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (ExV1e)

282 >>40% drop in film/streaming production in Hollywood BEFORE the fires

Oh, no!

Where will I find new shows with multiple explicit scenes of two gay males screwing?

/s

Posted by: one hour sober at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (Y1sOo)

283 LOL, Trump says Fauci and Bolton both made a lot of money, if they feel they need security, he can give them some phone numbers.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (2k0oQ)

284 I tried doordash once. The delivery cost more than the food...before tipping the driver.

Not worth it.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:53 AM (t0Rmr)

This. So much this. Plus, don't people just want to get out of the fucking house?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (bss/y)

285 "I tried doordash once."

Saw a survey sez an alarming percentage of doordash drivers tamper with the food.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (8VyQQ)

286 >>> Traffic might be helped a little with WFH. But is a small drop in the bucket relative to everyone else on the road. Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:50 AM (vCQ/u)

I'm saving so much environment, working from home, go meeeee!*takes selfie*

*orders all their meals via door dash or delivery service*

Posted by: WFH influenceristas at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (gWBY1)

287
I was going to do a brake job on my truck this week but, snow.
Posted by: Grump928

Dood, you just built a 10000 sq ft barn! What, is it full of chickens and horses, already??

Posted by: Uncle Junior at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (UXla0)

288 Seriously, we used to have "rush hour", now we got "unbroken conga line of dipshits from 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM"

Where are all you fuckers going if you're not going to work?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

I remember talking to a coworker during the covid lockdowns and he noted (and I agreed) that traffic actually seemed to be worse than before the lockdowns started.

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (77rzZ)

289 269 I would like to have one of those remote starter doohickeys

—

Those can be installed after market.
They are great in winter. Melts the frost and warms up the cabin before you get in.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (vCQ/u)

290 Oh, goody./s Little blurb from "Newsweek" on the computer wants me to know that "Impeachment Efforts for Donald Trump ramp up." I didn't bother to click on it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (MQJVv)

291 280 mother once had a very nice conversation with Martin Sheen about faith.
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TJM, Bishop Sheen, or Marty Sheen? Only one makes sense.
Posted by: From about That Time at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (4780s)

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Martin Sheen, the actor.

He's Catholic. He's also a leftist, but he's Catholic and takes his faith seriously, apparently.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (GBKbO)

292
Where are all you fuckers going if you're not going to work?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Applebees, for the food, flair, and waitresses with "spunk"!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (xG4kz)

293 the primary manufacturers of light bulbs have moved on and will not give up the higher margins from LED light bulbs.

You mean the margins on LED lights that are supposed to last four years but barely last one?

Posted by: Chuck C at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (D0HYP)

294 there is no need for ev's because carbon is not a poison, it's the earth's life blood, it is instrisic in every organic and inorganic process,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at January 24, 2025 11:50 AM (dJR17)

Carbon dioxide is THE green gas. We should be producing more in order to make the earth greener.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (g8Ew8)

295 Oh, no!

Where will I find new shows with multiple explicit scenes of two gay males screwing?

/s
Posted by: one hour sober at January 24, 2025 11:54 AM (Y1sOo)

Well I would have said C-SPAN, but now....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (+iIV1)

296 Milei, Bukele, Trump are showing that great things are possible, but only IF THEY ARE TRIED

If they aren't tried, then they don't get done, ever.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (D7oie)

297 150
‘ J6 Select Committee members should “expect a subpoena soon."’

And remember: defying a Congressional subpoena is an imprisonable offense.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (jbnUc)

298 Geezusss.... Looking at that list, I noticed less that the loser vehicles were all EVs than the fact that they're all INSANELY expensive.

Wanna reboot the auto industry? Do a Lee Iacocca -- sell a whole line of good, cheap cars. Do what Hyundai did in the early 90s and build a car that normal people could afford. (But don't recreate their total shit car that almost ruined them.)

Bring back roll-up windows and two airbags. Stop building every car with 400hp twin turbo 4WD instamatic park assist with Bluetooth cupholders and self-driving. Four Fucking Wheels and a Motor for $5000.

Posted by: red speck at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (0Id0S)

299 This. So much this. Plus, don't people just want to get out of the fucking house?

I live in a blue area with an arctic climate.

So...no.

Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (t0Rmr)

300 I would have to have both legs in casts before I would use Door Dash.

On the other hand, Walmart and Amazon free deliveries are welcome here.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Cheapskate at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (tfOmD)

301 It's really galling to see all these GOP Senators tweeting about how the Senate MUST confirm Trump's nominees NOW

while they get boar-hogged by the Dems every day
pathetic bunch of meatsacks

Posted by: Don Black. Message: this field blank at January 24, 2025 11:56 AM (AOsQT)

302
He's Catholic. He's also a leftist, but he's Catholic and takes his faith seriously, apparently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching B-movies with Roger Corman

Except for the "No baby killing" part, I'd suspect.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 11:56 AM (xG4kz)

303 Applebees, for the food, flair, and waitresses with "spunk"!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (xG4kz)

. . . Probably should wipe them down before returning them to food handling . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at January 24, 2025 11:56 AM (D7oie)

304 Give back the power of the 10th as it is intended in the constitution. If a state ruins itself, then it doesn't affect any other states.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

Tenth works in conjunction with the Commerce Clause (see dormant Commerce clause). Basically California can abuse its own citizens and businesses but it cannot ban commerce coming in from the other states if EPA and Congress decide that the waiver given to California is no more.

So autos become made elsewhere, stoves, etc. California nor any of the other states can set up tariffs, internal regulatory barriers, etc. to outsiders if Congress chooses to exert its Commerce Clause power.

10th reads,
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Commerce clause is a power specifically delegated to US Congress and thus states can regulate commerce among the states only when Congress allows it.

Posted by: whig at January 24, 2025 11:56 AM (ctrM5)

305 Oh, goody./s Little blurb from "Newsweek" on the computer wants me to know that "Impeachment Efforts for Donald Trump ramp up." I didn't bother to click on it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM

Natch. Otherwise a day ending in Y. The best part, they are too dense to understand that this is why they lost, and will continue to lose. So I say, full speed ahead dems!

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (ewjUl)

306
Rivian is hiring away here in SoCal as if they have a future. It's like the chef on the Titanic planning the breakfast menu while the ship is sinking. I don't get companies that do that. I guess someone has an insane hope that they'll be the lone survivor of this "reality" trend.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (6iA+O)

307 What i want to know, is if everyone is working from home these days, then why the hell are they all out on the road every damn minute of the day?

Seriously, we used to have "rush hour", now we got "unbroken conga line of dipshits from 7:00 AM to 7:00 PM"

Where are all you fuckers going if you're not going to work?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 11:45 AM (+iIV1)

- WFH
- Start work at the same time you would have left home, end work at the same time you would have gotten home.
- Take the extra hours which you would have spent in your commute running errands. Extra points for inconveniencing Warai-otoko.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (ExV1e)

308 Beginning of the End for the EV Transition

Nooooo! That's not true! That's impossible!
Posted by: Joe Xiden at January 24, 2025 11:47 AM

Search your feelings, Joe...you know it to be true.

Posted by: Darth Trumpius at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (Wnv9h)

309 Doordash makes sense if you order for a large group. Delivery fee is a fixed fee regardless of how much food there is. But ordering a $8 meal with $15 fees is retarded.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (vCQ/u)

310 I demand a nuclear powered 4x4 SUV/pickup available for $30k with a 5 year refueling cost of $1.5k!
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A mini-reactor smaller than your current engine would have been commonplace but for the complete lies about nuclear.

Your rear axle would need replaced from wear before the engine ran out of fuel.

Nuclear reactors -- safe enough for submarines traveling all over the world, a fragile metal tube subject to thousands of pounds of varying external pressure, with hundreds of people living day and night within yards.
Zero radiation deaths in decades.

But also, too dangerous for land.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at January 24, 2025 11:27 AM (2k0oQ)

so fallout 4 is the future we SHOULD have had?

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (nXhwP)

311
Re: food delivery

WHY would I ever want 1 more filthy human touching my food?

Posted by: Uncle Junior at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (UXla0)

312
And good morning, all!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (6iA+O)

313 294 there is no need for ev's because carbon is not a poison, it's the earth's life blood, it is instrisic in every organic and inorganic process,
Posted by: miguel cervantes at January 24, 2025 11:50 AM (dJR17)

Carbon dioxide is THE green gas. We should be producing more in order to make the earth greener.
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Its thousand year old stardust. Never argue with Joni Mitchel. Just don't do it.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM (Wg6v7)

314 Dood, you just built a 10000 sq ft barn! What, is it full of chickens and horses, already??
Posted by: Uncle Junior at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (UXla0)

Like a gas, my stuff expands to fill any container.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Cheapskate at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM (tfOmD)

315
Bring back roll-up windows and two airbags.

And a keyed lock on both front doors!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM (xG4kz)

316 158
‘ Maybe even offer another $500 as a parting gift (incentive) when they deplane in their home country.’

Tell them that we’ll mail the check to their address back home.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM (jbnUc)

317
On the other hand, Walmart and Amazon free deliveries are welcome here.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Cheapskate at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (tfOmD)

You’re old enough to know nothing in this world is free.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM (vCQ/u)

318 I live in a blue area with an arctic climate.

So...no.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM

*New England fistbump*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM (Wnv9h)

319 Wait is this the tranny shooter or did they have another one?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 24, 2025 11:47 AM (t0Rmr)

This is another one. Black guy shot a black? girl and then himself. Almost certainly "romance" related. MSM is trying to make it political.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 24, 2025 11:59 AM (ExV1e)

320 so fallout 4 is the future we SHOULD have had?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (nXhwP)

Here is a vision of a beautiful, space age neighborhood.

Now we are going to make half the game base building of shitty, rusty shacks.

You're welcome.

Posted by: Bethesda at January 24, 2025 11:59 AM (bss/y)

321 Agree. But, the advent of synthetic lubricants has also drastically lengthened mechanical lives of engines, transmissions, suspensions, differentials, etc. CNC machining and computer/precise design have been important, too.

Posted by: LRob in OK, Moron and Lunatic at January 24, 2025 11:53 AM (ha1wR)

Its amazing really. When I got my license if you saw a car with 80-100K on the clock it was considered a ghost. Timing chains gone at 70K, top ends were weak, etc. My modern car has 13:1 compression. Do that to an older small block engine and you'll need the starter from a locomotive to crank it. We had a dodge intrepid with the 3.2 engine. We gave it away with 201K and it was running fine with the original trans and suspension. The acura TL we had went to 260K, gave it to a friend, he ran it up to 307K and sold it running perfect. I love the classic cars, but the modern cars are something. Mechanically anyway.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 11:59 AM (VwHCD)

322
They are, but Candace lost me with all her anti Israel shit.
Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 11:52 AM (ewjUl)

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Rubbish. We can support Israel and she does, but not send billions or fight their wars for them.

Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:59 AM (PMtkd)

323
Its thousand year old stardust. Never argue with Joni Mitchel. Just don't do it.
Posted by: Pudinhead

That reminds me, did Laurel Canton take a hit from the ongoing fires in California?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 11:59 AM (xG4kz)

324 Bring back roll-up windows and two airbags. Stop building every car with 400hp twin turbo 4WD instamatic park assist with Bluetooth cupholders and self-driving. Four Fucking Wheels and a Motor for $5000.
Posted by: red speck at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (0Id0S)

crappy little 4-cylinder pickup with manual steering and transmission, 4-wheel drive as an option.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (D7oie)

325 This. So much this. Plus, don't people just want to get out of the fucking house?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (bss/y)

Fuck nah.

I'll pay triple and tip 100% if it means not putting on pants.

And contactless means contactless, Jhragrablag, or whatever the fuck that string of non-phonemes where a name should be is. You make me open that door, know that whatever you see is your fault, not mine.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (+iIV1)

326
Laurel Canyon

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (xG4kz)

327 @other98
(Pic of the episcopal church scold lady trying to get Trump at the national cathedral hijack)
If you hear a call for compassion and basic human empathy and feel like you are being attacked, then that's a YOU problem.
Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (gWBY1)

Classic narcissistic manipulation. If you don't like your intentions to be misrepresented, it's because you are at fault.

That bishop was claiming, without evidence, that Trump was not compassionate, just because he opposes the exploitation of children, trafficking victims, and Americans in general.

I'd say Trump is the compassionate one and the bishop has no empathy for vulnerable people. Well, she likes people in situations that are useful for her politics.

Posted by: Emmie at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (cSvoa)

328 People who can't feed themselves are the ones that rely on DoorDash or whatever.

They'd probably starve to death if it wasn't for delivery.

They also likely don't have a vehicle and are those "work from home" types that are currently pitching a fit about having to go back to an office.

Cull the heard.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (Q4IgG)

329 Bring back roll-up windows and two airbags.

And a keyed lock on both front doors!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM (xG4kz)

Crank windows- absolutely.

But I do love the fob.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (bss/y)

330 On the other hand, Walmart and Amazon free deliveries are welcome here.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Cheapskate at January 24, 2025 11:55 AM (tfOmD)

You’re old enough to know nothing in this world is free.
Posted by: Its Go Time Donald at January 24, 2025 11:58 AM

Yeah, I don't know how they can afford to do it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Cheapskate at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (tfOmD)

331 Ace is awake.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (2UnvF)

332 Don’t know if there's fire but there's lots of Obamiston smoke.

https://is.gd/i2I6Uo

Posted by: Anonosaurus Rex, Now Is the Winter of Our Discontent Made Glorious Summer By This Son of [New] York at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (L/fGl)

333 >>> People today spend $12 in delivery fees to get McDonald’s delivered instead of driving 3 minutes to pick it up. tThe days of working on your car are, as you say, loooooooooong gone.

My husband has literally ordered candy and soda from the local grocery store to come to our house, on days he is being a bum. It drives me nuts because the delivery fees are outrageous.

Though our grocery store has a club that if you pay the yearly fee, you get discounts, including free delivery to your home. I still think it's a colossal waste of everyone's time and gas. For an elderly shut in or sick person? Fantastic. For my husband who just doesn't want to put on pants and schlep to the store? I'm less generous.

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (gWBY1)

334 Morning, Blonde Morticia!

Posted by: Bulg at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (77rzZ)

335 Rivian is hiring away here in SoCal as if they have a future. It's like the chef on the Titanic planning the breakfast menu while the ship is sinking. I don't get companies that do that. I guess someone has an insane hope that they'll be the lone survivor of this "reality" trend.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (6iA+O)

Doesn't Rivian have a guaranteed sales deal for trucks with Amazon?

That might explain it. Or do I have my EV companies mixed up?

Posted by: naturalfake at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (iJfKG)

336 Apparently, doing executive orders they don't like is a reason for impeachment, but the cabal can sign things for brain dead Joe Biden for years and it's hunky dory.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (MQJVv)

337
Rubbish. We can support Israel and she does, but not send billions or fight their wars for them.
Posted by: Seems Legit at January 24, 2025 11:59 AM

No, she went beyond that. Look at some of her comments.

Posted by: Minnfidel at January 24, 2025 12:01 PM (ewjUl)

338 Except for the "No baby killing" part, I'd suspect.
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Do you know who is sons are?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 24, 2025 12:01 PM (Wg6v7)

339
You make me open that door, know that whatever you see is your fault, not mine.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Now, that is a court case on which I'd gladly serve out my jury duty obligation! So many LOLs!

"One more laughing outburst and I'll clear the court!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 12:02 PM (xG4kz)

340
Interesting...

So these Samsung 2-in1 Washer/Dryers run on 110V, 220 is not necessary. And they're 5.3 cu ft., i.e., full size.

Europe, I think, came up with this idea, years ago. But they were lousy units, and quite small capacity.

Posted by: Uncle Junior at January 24, 2025 12:02 PM (UXla0)

341 For my husband who just doesn't want to put on pants and schlep to the store? I'm less generous.
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Sounds like your husband is telling you something.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 24, 2025 12:03 PM (Wg6v7)

342 Anyone know the address for sending pics of Jewell's items?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 24, 2025 12:03 PM (XeU6L)

343 321 >>> I love the classic cars, but the modern cars are something. Mechanically anyway.

Two words: Interference engine.

That engineering concept should be criminal. Especially if the engine's very life depends on a rubber band that may or may not last its 60k-mile lifespan. And don't get me started on serviceability. I can swap out my 289 in less time than it would take to replace the water pump on most modern cars.

Posted by: red speck at January 24, 2025 12:04 PM (0Id0S)

344 so fallout 4 is the future we SHOULD have had?

Posted by: Sturmtoddler at January 24, 2025 11:57 AM (nXhwP)

Tail fins and nuclear power for the win. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 12:04 PM (VwHCD)

345 >>> Sounds like your husband is telling you something. Posted by: Pudinhead at January 24, 2025 12:03 PM

Haha.

I will say though... if you are going to order a burger and fries to be delivered, skip the fast food places and get from a higher up chain like Chili's or Red Robin. They are about the same cost now but double the quality.

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 12:06 PM (gWBY1)

346 331 Ace is awake.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 24, 2025 12:00 PM (2UnvF)

This was a nood call, btw.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 24, 2025 12:06 PM (bss/y)

347 Two words: Interference engine.

That engineering concept should be criminal. Especially if the engine's very life depends on a rubber band that may or may not last its 60k-mile lifespan. And don't get me started on serviceability. I can swap out my 289 in less time than it would take to replace the water pump on most modern cars.

Posted by: red speck at January 24, 2025 12:04 PM (0Id0S)

Absolutely. Older cars are a dream to work on. That interference thing is retarded. I think a lot of engines these day are heading back to chains.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 12:06 PM (VwHCD)

348
Do you know who is sons are?
Posted by: Pudinhead

Yes, and I've seen them all three of them and their father in movies, one of which, "Cadence" starred him, Charlie and the seldom seen son, Ramon Estevez.

What's your point?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 24, 2025 12:06 PM (xG4kz)

349 "There is no shortage of water in the Los Angeles area. The reservoirs are at or above historical levels. The water is there." - @CNN fact checker Daniel Dale

There is no shortage of Smelt in the Los Angeles area. The reservoirs are dry, but Smelt are at historic levels.
@Ghana fact checker Adu

Posted by: ADU FROM GHANA at January 24, 2025 12:07 PM (QxEBj)

350 Its amazing really. When I got my license if you saw a car with 80-100K on the clock it was considered a ghost. Timing chains gone at 70K, top ends were weak, etc. My modern car has 13:1 compression. Do that to an older small block engine and you'll need the starter from a locomotive to crank it. We had a dodge intrepid with the 3.2 engine. We gave it away with 201K and it was running fine with the original trans and suspension. The acura TL we had went to 260K, gave it to a friend, he ran it up to 307K and sold it running perfect. I love the classic cars, but the modern cars are something. Mechanically anyway.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 11:59 AM (VwHCD)

My 70 Chevelle, bought new in 1970, had 345,000 miles on the 350 when I swapped it. Never swapped timing chain. Needed valve seals by then, and a valve job, but I decided to swap it with a high performance ATK remanufactured 350/4 bolt main. That has over 220,000 miles. I finally bought an 06 Mustang GT in 2006 and that has over 372,000 miles on it. Oil change on both vehicles every 2500 miles or so. Highway driving on both.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 12:09 PM (iODuv)

351 Tenth works in conjunction with the Commerce Clause (see dormant Commerce clause). Basically California can abuse its own citizens and businesses but it cannot ban commerce coming in from the other states if EPA and Congress decide that the waiver given to California is no more.

****

I disagree with CA’s ICE bans, but they’re not a Commerce Clause violation. They’re not banning ICEs from Tennessee while permitting them from California and NY.

States ban things all of the time. What you seem to be saying is that states can’t regulate commerce within their borders because some products sold originate out-of-state.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director at January 24, 2025 12:09 PM (FC8SQ)

352 >That is effectively the actual EV market in this country based on genuine customer demand

No. Tesla benefits just as much from the various subsidies and tax breaks as all the other companies, and in fact is the reason those various subsidies exist. With those gone, Tesla will shrink to irrelevance, once again making toys for rich men.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at January 24, 2025 12:10 PM (LgYtf)

353 347 >>>Absolutely. Older cars are a dream to work on. That interference thing is retarded. I think a lot of engines these day are heading back to chains.

Ahh... the Biden initiative. "Gonna put y'all back in chains." May be his only lasting, useful legacy. : )

Posted by: red speck at January 24, 2025 12:10 PM (0Id0S)

354
That bishop was claiming, without evidence, that Trump was not compassionate, just because he opposes the exploitation of children, trafficking victims, and Americans in general.

I'd say Trump is the compassionate one and the bishop has no empathy for vulnerable people. Well, she likes people in situations that are useful for her politics.

This. They always show the crying little kid born in the US to illegals for pity and as justification for an open boarders policy that let's millions in, many of whom are the worst in society and many more who come for blue state and federal freebies.

Okay, you want compassion for that kid. Let the parents stay, but then support building a wall to stem the flow.

Wonder if pastor danger hair gets fed money for her amnesty church somehow. Maybe pastor danger hair could set up a church in their home countries to help repatriation them compassionately.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 24, 2025 12:11 PM (OA79/)

355 Local MSM is freaking out that schools may lose funding if illegals are deported.

Well using that logic I guess we should import every kid from the world. Think of all the funding we’d get.

You don’t hate them enough.

Posted by: Its Go Time Donald

"The money we pay in taxes is totally unrelated to the free money we get from the feds."

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 24, 2025 12:12 PM (lTGtQ)

356 229
‘ Ford has made changing the battery to my low-end car a rage-inducing chore’

That would put Ford on a permanent no-buy list if I can’t change the battery in 10 minutes or less.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 12:13 PM (jbnUc)

357 229
‘ Ford has made changing the battery to my low-end car a rage-inducing chore’

That would put Ford on a permanent no-buy list if I can’t change the battery in 10 minutes or less.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 12:13 PM (jbnUc)

As much as I loved the dodge intrepid we had I wanted to burn it in the driveway when it came time to change the battery. You had to pull the front wheel and get the battery out through a panel you had to remove.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 24, 2025 12:15 PM (VwHCD)

358 241
‘ Nooooo! That's not true! That's impossible!
Posted by: Joe Xiden’

This is funny because he’s commenting in this thread.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 12:16 PM (jbnUc)

359 229
‘ Ford has made changing the battery to my low-end car a rage-inducing chore’

That would put Ford on a permanent no-buy list if I can’t change the battery in 10 minutes or less.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 24, 2025 12:13 PM (jbnUc)

My '06 Mustang GT, on the passenger side, on the firewall. Easy 10 minute change. While drinking coffee. Not sure about the Stangs built after the 2015 or so.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 12:17 PM (iODuv)

360 Not to be contrarian, but there is an alternate scenario:

Manufacturers make EVs better. EVs get cheaper and have longer range. More charging stations are added. But all of this happens organically. Because it happens organically, meeting consumer demand, as opposed to government mandates, the result is a great EV ecosystem that works for everybody.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 24, 2025 12:18 PM (nLFEI)

361 I just got a 2016 colorado recently.

It's really not hard to work on at all. I haven't really had to do much, but there's nothing crazy about it. Basic maintenance is no different than any old car. I thought it would be a nightmare, but it isn't. Everything is a component, but that's been true for decades. Nobody is pulling apart an O2 sensor to fix it. Just get another one and bolt it on.

But honestly, I had the same thoughts when I got a new(ish) car in '06. Or in '98.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 24, 2025 12:18 PM (+iIV1)

362 252 Need Moron help. I know this is manipulative alinsky tactics 101, but how would you refute it?

@other98
(Pic of the episcopal church scold lady trying to get Trump at the national cathedral hijack)
If you hear a call for compassion and basic human empathy and feel like you are being attacked, then that's a YOU problem.
Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 11:49 AM (gWBY1compassionate.

It's the call of a manipulator. These people didn't just spring from the ground in the united states. Arguing for compassion for a continued stream of people to flood your country is not compassionate to the that live here. Pastor danger hair needs to go to the countries forcing their poor out and preach compassion there.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 24, 2025 12:18 PM (OA79/)

363 I had a friend with a 50s straight six Chevy pickup. I would swear that there was room to stand in the engine compartment to work on it.

Posted by: Grump928(C) Cheapskate at January 24, 2025 12:19 PM (tfOmD)

364 >>> Wonder if pastor danger hair gets fed money for her amnesty church somehow.

She owns a $2M home, signs point to yes

Posted by: LizLem at January 24, 2025 12:20 PM (gWBY1)

365 I had a friend with a 50s straight six Chevy pickup. I would swear that there was room to stand in the engine compartment to work on it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Cheapskate at January 24, 2025 12:19 PM (tfOmD)

My 57 Chevy has the 235 six. Even the 57's with the 283 small block has tons of room in the engine compartment. A big block cam be dropped in there comfortably. A common upgrade.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 24, 2025 12:20 PM (iODuv)

366 so fallout 4 is the future we SHOULD have had?
Posted by: Sturmtoddler

Every time I have to explain the backstory of that universe I have to keep saying "stop me if you've heard this before" because of things like, oh, the US gov't developing and pushing a sketchy gene-altering "cure" for a Chinese-developed disease it inflicted on the west...

Did I mention they wrote that in 1998 or so?

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at January 24, 2025 12:26 PM (OUMaO)

367 Look, solid state batteries are just about to hit the market. They have double the energy density of current lithium-ion batteries, charge in a few minutes, and greatly reduced fire risk. Ideally manufacturers use them, not the current crop of batteries. EVs get cheaper, likely cheaper than gas vehicles.

I don't think anything can stop this.

EV mandates were dumb and should be eliminated. But EVs are going to slowly become more popular.

Posted by: El Mariachi at January 24, 2025 12:26 PM (nLFEI)

368 BRAVO, Buck!! Good fight!

Posted by: FINGERS at January 24, 2025 12:52 PM (C8ve7)

369 El Mariachi: You might as well be arguing about fusion energy or perpetual motion. You’re right, nothing can stop the momentum of your precious EV transition so long as a new technology comes along that doesn’t currently exist. LOL.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at January 24, 2025 01:00 PM (JP/3A)

370 Thanks, Fingers.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at January 24, 2025 01:00 PM (JP/3A)

371 "How many EOs have been stopped by Hawaiian judges?"

Ann Coulter has been making the good point that all these EOs have to be followed up by passed legislation, if the liberation is to last beyond 2028. Congress has two years to get it done.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos Calientes at January 24, 2025 11:23 AM

Exactly. Which is why no one should be getting excited about any of this or making naive statements like 'we've won!' We haven't won anything other than an election and a 4-year reprieve from Marxist left nonsense.

But it won't be anything more than that if legislation does not follow up these Executive Orders. And who here is confident the Congress, made up of half Deep State, 1/4 GOPe and 1/4 non-GOPe will actually put forth good legislation?

We've been here before. We had a 4-year reprieve from January 2017 to January 2021. Then it all went to hell again. Fool me once...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 24, 2025 01:26 PM (P5BPp)

372 I read Biden gave Rivian 6 billion on the way out the door.

Posted by: MikeN at January 24, 2025 01:37 PM (HVZOH)

373 Nice. Just remember the GOP has come to stand for Impotence and Treachery (kind of like Canada now that I think about it). So expect betrayal

Posted by: Fen at January 24, 2025 02:09 PM (c5hJL)

374 There is one subject I spend hours per week studying, and that's EVs. And what I see: mandate or none, EVs are taking over the world.

China, which makes all the phones and laptops, was frustrated that nobody wanted their cars. The Chinese government saw the upcoming EV transition as their opportunity and leaned on Chinese car makers to pivot to EVs. This is now paying off. Popular Chinese brands like MG and Volvo sell well basically everywhere but the USA.

Tariffs on Chinese EVs will cushion US car makers in the short run but the switch to EVs is inevitable. The problem is that only Tesla makes really profitable cars.

Robotaxis are also about to hit the car industry like a brick through a window. No US legacy car maker sells affordable vehicles anymore, and if a safe and inexpensive taxi is available many people will just stop buying cars.

No matter what Trump does, in ten years any car company that can't make profitable EVs will be dead. GM is almost certainly doomed... not sure about Ford.

Note, I also drive a Tesla and I can answer questions about how practical it is. (Short answer: it's great.)

Posted by: mr_jack at January 24, 2025 02:36 PM (LNPSJ)

375 Toyota was planning on spending up to $18 billion on its battery plant in NC. They have about 3 million sq ft under roof already in 4 buildings. The plan was 8-9 million sq ft in total. Some of the future buildings are on hold right now either due to the current election to see where things fall and also awaiting potential new solid state battery technology.

Posted by: TC at January 24, 2025 02:47 PM (cHOHf)

376 #375 The so-called "Inflation Reduction Act" was promising to give out huge amounts of money, and if that money isn't coming that might affect factory plans.

Tesla is still full speed ahead on their battery factory projects, "IRA" money or none.

I am in favor of encouraging companies to build stuff in the USA, but spraying money we can't afford is not the best plan. Tariffs are probably the better plan... at least they don't directly drive up our debt.

Posted by: mr_jack at January 24, 2025 03:24 PM (LNPSJ)

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