Wednesday Morning Rant

Downswing?

Since before Trump's reelection but especially after, there has been a question lingering in the minds of many. It goes along the lines of, "have we finally achieved Peak Woke?" I don't know, but I know that the question has been arising more often this year than in years prior. Ever since the Dylan Mulvaney debacle with AB-InBev, this was a question that it was suddenly - very suddenly - acceptable to ask. The displeasure with Wokeness has been rising, sometimes barely perceptibly, since then.

But it is very hard to tell. Wokeness in all its forms is so deeply embedded in American (and, more broadly, Western) institutions that it is by no means vanquished merely because Trump won and at least a plurality of people got publicly fed up with tranny madness. But there are indicators that are promising in terms of entertainment and associated products. This is a tricky barometer because the production lead time on such things is very long and entertainment is often slow to pivot to a new reality. The queue of crap that got a green light years ago has to drain. But there is one exception to this, a category with (relatively) quick turnaround: advertising.

I have seen a marked shift in advertising in the past few months, both on terrestrial broadcast and on streaming. It isn't sweeping yet, but it appears to be there. There are some ads I am seeing in fairly heavy rotation that would never have been made a few years ago because they're surprisingly normal. The first is for a place I've never heard of or seen in real life, which is a gas station or truck stop:

A grown man going to visit his father and bringing some (through implication) decent coffee with him. That's it. Two men who appear normal. Neither is a buffoon. They're both white. It's shockingly regressive, and I see this ad frequently. There's a similar one starring a dude and his wife that's also pretty normal. Unusual, to say the least.

Then there's one I've seen frequently on terrestrial broadcast, which is from a company known not necessarily for in-your-face wokeness in advertising, but definitely for trendiness and trend-setting: Apple. Their new wireless earbuds have a "hearing aid" feature and I've seen various iterations of this long-form ad chopped up for television:

That's a great ad, if you go for saccharine over-the-top sentimentality. But set aside whether that's your thing or not, and look at what it is: a mother and father and daughter, having Christmas together, from the father's perspective. Nobody is denigrated. Nobody is being told to check his privilege or put down for his original racial or sexual sins. It's just a dude who's grateful for his improved hearing with his family, and a family that is grateful to him. The cast look like they actually could be a family. It's astonishingly normal, and a radical break from recent trends.

Even Wal-Mart is getting in on the action in what appears to be the new trend of "normality in advertising for Christmas '24" - albeit by riding on the shoulders of other (somewhat old) entertainment properties:

Some of their other ads are less good but even they're markedly toned down from the kind of stuff we saw last year or in 2022. From cars for affluent middle-aged people to headphones for trendy young people, ads are looking increasingly old. They show the product and its features. They show people doing things. Even when diversity quotas are still clearly on display like in the ad for headphones, they aren't being too pushy about it compared to recent history - like in this monstrous ad for Marshall, on which I commented in a prior rant (don't comment on old threads).

Notable counterpoints like Jaguar aside, Wokeness appears to be waning in advertising. I don't know if this will hold up even through the season - let alone into the future - but I think it there is at least a touch of promise. I don't know whether it's because the economy is rough those and those Christmas season dollars are harder to come by so businesses genuinely must revert back to normality and cast a wider net or die, but from what I can tell, the slow movement toward something approaching normality in advertising appears to have sped up rather a lot in the past couple of months.

I just hope it's real.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:00 AM (spU3M)

2 I'll go sound the bell...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 11, 2024 11:00 AM (O7YUW)

3 1st?

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:00 AM (v6JzV)

4 Well darn Rick, beat me fair and square. I still let the others know though.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 11, 2024 11:01 AM (O7YUW)

5 last

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:01 AM (cD1dp)

6 >>>A grown man going to visit his father and bringing some (through implication) decent coffee with him. That's it. Two men who appear normal.

Omigoodness, that is so beautiful.

Posted by: m at December 11, 2024 11:02 AM (VnUSN)

7 Well, I'm not seeing many people declaring "their pronouns" much anymore.

Posted by: BignJames at December 11, 2024 11:02 AM (Yj6Os)

8 So very, very tired of hearing, "Woke."

Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2024 11:03 AM (i0F8b)

9 But there are indicators that are promising in terms of entertainment and associated products.

Gen Alpha is the AWFLs worst nightmare.

zombie posted right after Trump's election, schoolteachers were lamenting that their middle school students were chanting Trump! Trump! and even the Mexican immigrant children had a Trump parade in the cafeteria.

the wheel keeps on turning
to every action is an equal and opposite reaction
etc. etc.

Posted by: kallisto at December 11, 2024 11:03 AM (dCxaZ)

10 I think Trump coming in will give a new infusion of woke. Remember, even if all he does is fix the economy, that will throw out enough surplus cash for them to get solvent again.

It is a cruel irony (but delicious) that a lot of this shit cannot survive unless times are good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at December 11, 2024 11:04 AM (HsOwE)

11 The Gilmore Girls lead actress was hot. Those eyes -- oh my.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

12 Well Caitlin Clark bent the knee and talked about her "white privilege". So it ain't gone yet.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:04 AM (CIS44)

13 After reading the content and watching the 'Gilmore Girls' ad, I did find this headline at Infowars.

If Woke is dying, I wonder if these people can get rid of some letters.

"Homosexual ‘Married’ Men Behind Pro-LGBTQIAAP2S+ Outlet PinkNews Accused of Sexual Misconduct"

Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 11:04 AM (jvJvP)

14 Both those ads are so good.

Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at December 11, 2024 11:05 AM (DJ7uY)

15 I think the pronoun declaration fiasco was a real-life answer to Hannah Arendt’s question- who goes Nazi?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 11, 2024 11:05 AM (IWZO4)

16 11 The Gilmore Girls lead actress was hot. Those eyes -- oh my.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

Lauren... Graham(?) Yeah, she was smoking.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at December 11, 2024 11:05 AM (HsOwE)

17 Well Caitlin Clark bent the knee and talked about her "white privilege". So it ain't gone yet.
Posted by: BruceWayne

She did? Sad.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:05 AM (v6JzV)

18 Riley Gaines @Riley_Gaines_ 13h
Just as Biden needed to step aside, Mitch McConnell should do the same. Kentucky deserves better.

https://tinyurl.com/2atrsrdb
shit-head's injury photo [sprained/broken wrist??]

Good video reply:
https://tinyurl.com/5cr5jzds
21 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:05 AM (hovnC)

19 Wokeness appears to be waning in advertising....from what I can tell, the slow movement toward something approaching normality in advertising appears to have sped up rather a lot in the past couple of months.

I think it is somewhat returning to normal, albeit with a higher woke baseline. We'll know if the representation of blacks and whites in ads returns to something more like the actual populations of the country, and if every couple isn't a black man with a white woman.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:06 AM (xCA6C)

20 I was wrong, it’s Dorothy Thompson, not Hannah

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 11, 2024 11:06 AM (IWZO4)

21 11 The Gilmore Girls lead actress was hot. Those eyes -- oh my.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)

I always liked Lauren Graham. Didn't see her in much else, but I liked her.

'Gilmore Girls' actually didn't have any gay characters and just the one black guy. The side characters were the best though.

Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (jvJvP)

22 Google just dropped this Christmas ad

Oli London@OliLondonTV
Google launches WOKE Christmas campaign featuring man wearing women’s clothing complaining about his skin.

https://is.gd/pBuxpK

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Woke is not dead yet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (L/fGl)

23 Busy here. Biden pup just got engaged to the girl he met in the army here last year.

YAY!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (BBZa4)

24 So nice to see the characters from Gilmore Girls again!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (J2vNu)

25 I think that what this signals more than anything else is how quickly the advertising industry can shift to follow the prevailing winds.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (d9fT1)

26 I just hope it's real.

As do I, but I sincerely doubt it. The holidays are the time when most businesses feel they have to at least nod in the direction of 'normal' and show happy families (who will buy the product being flogged), good neighborhoods and friendly people. It's the crumb being thrown to the normies before going back to insult mode.

But what do I know? I'm just an asshole commenter on a Smart Military Blog.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (Q0kLU)

27 23 Busy here. Biden pup just got engaged to the girl he met in the army here last year.

YAY!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (BBZa4)

WOW YAY!

Posted by: m at December 11, 2024 11:08 AM (VnUSN)

28 Google launches WOKE Christmas campaign featuring man wearing women’s clothing complaining about his skin.

https://is.gd/pBuxpK

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Woke is not dead yet.

Perhaps, but it's being pushed to get on the cart.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:08 AM (xCA6C)

29 The ratchet turns one way.

Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2024 11:08 AM (i0F8b)

30 Volvo has had some good, normal ads recently:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OUFJ1vQqJQ

Posted by: Half Dozen at December 11, 2024 11:08 AM (uVHlT)

31 23 Busy here. Biden pup just got engaged to the girl he met in the army here last year.

YAY!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (BBZa4)

He captured an Israeli Army hottie?

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at December 11, 2024 11:08 AM (HsOwE)

32 The hearing aid add is still a wee. It woke. It's a young girl singing. Young boys are never shown or are never the feature of an add. See the robotics mom helping the daughter put the roombot vacuum back together. "I got this sweatheart".

Is it any wonder boys are checked out and turn into young men who feel they have no place in modern America .

My wife was upset that they always show a woman in the de vision making role of what do you do with elderly parent adds. I had to point out to her that 80% of all ads target women. Even pick 7p trucks and John deer tra tors.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at December 11, 2024 11:08 AM (lFGqx)

33 Well Caitlin Clark bent the knee and talked about her "white privilege". So it ain't gone yet.
Posted by: BruceWayne

She did? Sad.
Posted by: Bulg

Yeah. She did. 😔

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:09 AM (spU3M)

34 YAY!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (BBZa4)

Congrats !

Posted by: It's me donna at December 11, 2024 11:09 AM (VE6XX)

35 I haven't seen an ad on TV in years, especially since I stopped watching sportsball broadcasts, and I use Brave to block them on youtube. Seems like if you want an ad to be seen these days, your best bet is to make one that goes "viral" -- one that is funny enough or likable enough for people to share on social media. Maybe the agencies are learning that.

Posted by: brak at December 11, 2024 11:09 AM (NGHTx)

36 Busy here. Biden pup just got engaged to the girl he met in the army here last year.

YAY!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Pozdravlyayu! (Congratulations!)

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:09 AM (v6JzV)

37 Nancy Mace @NancyMace · 14h
I was physically accosted at the Capitol tonight by a pro-tr*ns man. One new brace for my wrist and some ice for my arm and it’ll heal just fine.

The Capitol police arrested the guy.

Your tr*ns violence and threats on my life will only make me double down. FAFO.

#HoldTheLine

Beatrice Peterson (@MissBeaE on all platforms) @MissBeaE
Capitol Police has arrested 33-year-old James McIntyre of Illinois after the alleged assault of Rep. @NancyMace on Tuesday.

McIntyre is facing a charge for Assaulting a Government Official according to Capitol Police.

The incident happened shortly before 6 pm in Rayburn.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:09 AM (hovnC)

38 Well Caitlin Clark bent the knee and talked about her "white privilege". So it ain't gone yet.
Posted by: BruceWayne

She did? Sad.
Posted by: Bulg

Yeah. She did. 😔
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:09 AM (spU3M)

https://tinyurl.com/55c7x47e

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (CIS44)

39 Inflation problem solved!

NY Gov. Hochul Announces Questionable Plan to "Fight Inflation" by Giving Everyone $300

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (L/fGl)

40 36 Busy here. Biden pup just got engaged to the girl he met in the army here last year.

YAY!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey

Pozdravlyayu! (Congratulations!)
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:09 AM (v6JzV)

It has YAY right in there! PozdravlYAYu!

Posted by: m at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (VnUSN)

41 Mr. Whipple, Cora the Coffee Lady, Mrs. Olson, were great ads.
Cartoon bears with shitty fur less so.

Posted by: Ancient Coprolite at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (G5+As)

42 The hearing aid add is still a wee. It woke. It's a young girl singing. Young boys are never shown or are never the feature of an add. See the robotics mom helping the daughter put the roombot vacuum back together. "I got this sweatheart".

And, of course, the boyfriend is black.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)

43 The ratchet turns one way.

Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2024 11:08 AM (i0F8b)

You must have a Harbor Freight ratchet.

Posted by: BignJames at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (Yj6Os)

44 Wokeness is just the latest toxic in your face version of leftist= progressive-political correctness. It will probably recede somewhat, go into hiding and come back in a new mutant, toxic form. As noted, it's basic precepts are deeply embedded in Western society and one election is not going to change that.

Posted by: Ripley at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (GUOwU)

45 Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (BBZa4)

Congrats for your son.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (D9DVx)

46 >>>Busy here. Biden pup just got engaged to the girl he met in the army here last year.

YAY!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (BBZa4)
******
Wonderful news. Congrats and best wishes to all.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (PgoHQ)

47 Nah. They'll probably pick Trump.

After all, TIME had Adolph Hitler as man of the year.

They'll put Trump on for much the same reason(in their minds), and have lots o'laughs beating the dead horse to hamburger.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 10:55 AM (iJfKG)

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Hitler was Person of the Year in the mid-30s, when the left loved him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 10:57 AM (cD1dp)

True. But, the "argument" they would make is something like_ "Well, Hitler just like Trump promised to restore his nation's honor and culture and economy, and just like Trump he promised to do it on the backs of another race!!!!!!! And look how that turned out."

And so on.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (iJfKG)

48 I always liked Lauren Graham. Didn't see her in much else, but I liked her.

'Gilmore Girls' actually didn't have any gay characters and just the one black guy. The side characters were the best though.
Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 11:07 AM (jvJvP)

She was in the Parenthod series with Craig T Nelson, well done show. Also in the Mighty Ducks show s1.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (CIS44)

49 Trends are going positive on some advertising, yes, but woke was always just a vehicle for the left. A means, and not necessarily the end. Lefties want power, and will use anything to get it.

For example, the left keeps pushing violence, like the murderous type we just saw. But even antisemitism is becoming even more readily violent.

Witness what happened to Floyd Merriweather, the former boxing champ, on his shopping trip in London over the weekend. He was accosted on the street by a crowd of 30 or so terror supporters angry with his strong support of Israel. He wasn't hurt, but only because he uses private security wherever he goes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (4+qnb)

50 In June, Target shook up its C-Suite, SBUX ditched its CEO in favor of Chipotle CEO. I don't recall Chipotle ever getting into a #Woke scrum.

Posted by: kallisto at December 11, 2024 11:12 AM (dCxaZ)

51 @39

>>NY Gov. Hochul Announces Questionable Plan to "Fight Inflation" by Giving Everyone $300

That works out to 5.75 a week, you could maybe get a gallon of milk for that.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 11:12 AM (XV/Pl)

52 The Gilmore Girls lead actress was hot. Those eyes -- oh my.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024p.u[

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Lauren Graham. And Alexis Bledel, who played her daughter Rory, was lovely too.

The show had sparkling, lively dialog of a kind TV rarely gives us any more, except for Buffy and a few other exceptions.

Lorelai (after delivering bad news to someone): "So a face *can* freeze that way."

Lorelai: "I am a fully grown woman capable of making my own adult choices."
Rory: "Says the woman with a Hello Kitty waffle iron."

[Someone mentions Saturday night]
Lorelai: "I hear it's all right for fighting."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:13 AM (J2vNu)

54 Hitler was Person of the Year in the mid-30s, when the left loved him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 10:57 AM (cD1dp)
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1939. And Man of the Year is about being *influential*, not *good*.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at December 11, 2024 11:13 AM (fsC91)

55 Willowed:

I was told as a child, quicksand would be a way more of major factor in my life that what has actually occurred.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 10:35 AM (spU3M)

I ackshewallee stood in quicksand to see what it was all about, when visiting Mont-Saint-Michel in France during low tide.

The pits of quicksand in the bay were easy to find. Our guide stood in one and moved his feet and legs around till he sunk over his knees then laid forward on the sand and got out easily.

I tried it. Simple, barely an inconvenience.

Buuuuut, if you were a knight in armor or on a horse. Yes, then big deadly problems.

Quicksand.....Pffft.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:13 AM (iJfKG)

56 Mr. Whipple, Cora the Coffee Lady, Mrs. Olson, were great ads.
Cartoon bears with shitty fur less so.
Posted by: Ancient Coprolite

Cora was played by Margaret Hamilton, the Wicked Witch of the West.

And the Mr. Whipple actor often turned up as a drunken barfly in Bewitched.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:13 AM (v6JzV)

57 As long as I don’t have to see Jardiance or Biktarvy ads… or any pharmaceutical ads for that matter, I’ll be reasonably happy.

Are we in a Warren Harding “return to normalcy” period? I hope so but without the Teapot Dome thing…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 11, 2024 11:13 AM (ANuwa)

58 I don't recall Chipotle ever getting into a #Woke scrum.
Posted by: kallisto at December 11, 2024 11:12 AM (dCxaZ)

They were too busy giving everyone e.coli.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 11, 2024 11:14 AM (ExV1e)

59 Busy here. Biden pup just got engaged to the girl he met in the army here last year.

YAY!
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey
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That's great!

Posted by: scampydog at December 11, 2024 11:14 AM (2bFN5)

60
The Bud Light Shane Gillis ad about being on the wrong film set is probably the closest thing you'll get to an apology from Budweiser.

Posted by: Auspex at December 11, 2024 11:14 AM (j4U/Z)

61 St Floyd will not be happy.

Posted by: Coki at December 11, 2024 11:14 AM (Wkrcf)

62 The left: m*rder is justifiable against individuals even tangentially related to the healthcare industry, which we don't like politically.
The left: we insist abortion providers are doing teh healthcarez!

Methinks they have not yet connected those dots together yet.

Posted by: FunkySeeFunkyDo at December 11, 2024 11:14 AM (N9pvH)

63 Morning, Horde. Awake and mobile in Idaho Falls. Off to grab breakfast and coffee at Jack in the Box, and then it's road time. Later.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (6olNX)

64
'Gilmore Girls' actually didn't have any gay characters and just the one black guy. The side characters were the best though.
Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024
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She was in the Parenthod series with Craig T Nelson, well done show. Also in the Mighty Ducks show s1.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024

***
Lauren also played one of Jerry's endless line of girlfriends, the episode about how do you decide whose number to put on speed dial.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (J2vNu)

65 Too bad we can't get the left to downsize. The way a lot of them get killed by fellow leftist or their policies you'd think it would happen naturally. Colleges keep churning them out and so do bad public schools

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (YO1Vi)

66 Witness what happened to Floyd Merriweather, the former boxing champ, on his shopping trip in London over the weekend. He was accosted on the street by a crowd of 30 or so terror supporters angry with his strong support of Israel. He wasn't hurt, but only because he uses private security wherever he goes.

I almost wish he hadn't had security. Can you imagine one of those soi bois going up against him?

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (xCA6C)

67 At the end of the day, The Gilmore Girls and their extended family and friends, were uniformly horrible people.

In some ways, they were even more horrible than the Seinfeld characters.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (XV/Pl)

68 I did notice in buying some Xmas gifts for my wife online this year the trend of using fat and/or androgynous unattractive people as clothing models seems to be dying off a bit. Mercifully.

Posted by: brak at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (NGHTx)

69 True. But, the "argument" they would make is something like_ "Well, Hitler just like Trump promised to restore his nation's honor and culture and economy, and just like Trump he promised to do it on the backs of another race!!!!!!! And look how that turned out."
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Do you know how many living-rooms there are in Mar-a-Lago!?!?

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (hovnC)

70 Imagine that. People got tired of being preached to and stopped buying their products. The companies had to respond. Huh. Guess that's what happens when you offend 60% of your customers. Math, it's hard.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (4p0Xq)

71 Lauren also played one of Jerry's endless line of girlfriends, the episode about how do you decide whose number to put on speed dial.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (J2vNu)

I'll hide you under poison control.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (CIS44)

72 It's a start but it won't last.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (BpO1e)

73 69 Do you know how many living-rooms there are in Mar-a-Lago!?!?
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (hovnC)

=========

One afternoon! Two coats!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (cD1dp)

74 12 Well Caitlin Clark bent the knee and talked about her "white privilege". So it ain't gone yet.
Posted by: BruceWayne
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There was never much sign that Caitlin was in fact an ideological warrior. Too many people projected what they wanted to see there--a straight white woman beating the WNBA woke machine and figuring she was on 'our side'.

Most people are not ideological and just want to do what they can do well and to continue to exist in a woke WNBA, you mouth whatever they want publicly so you can continue to ply your craft.

No different than the QB in New Orleans, I think, that backtracked on some BLM nonsense. In both cases, it was not only dangerous to the paycheck to be different but to their actual health in leagues with thuggery by players.

In addition, most of those people in the public spotlight have 'handlers' as in public relations folks either working for them directly as a publicist or indirectly (hiring a firm) that handle all public pronouncements.

Heroes ain't gonna save us, it is up to each one of us to reject the poisoned chalice of wokeness and stand up in order for society to change and elites to be chastened.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (ctrM5)

75 They were too busy giving everyone e.coli.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 11, 2024 11:14 AM (ExV1e)

well he said he was going to revamp the SBUX menu

SBUX customer: 'I'll have a skinny soy mocha latte with an e. coli foam, thanks"

Posted by: kallisto at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (dCxaZ)

76 The Amazing Kreskin, George Kresge Jr., dead at 89

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (v6JzV)

77 She was in the Parenthod series with Craig T Nelson, well done show. Also in the Mighty Ducks show s1.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (CIS44)
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She was in "Bad Santa" as the girlfriend of Billy Bob Thornton's alcoholic lowlife character, which I found disappointing.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (fsC91)

78 I saw an ad on the tee-vee the other day that had an all-white family of four in it. I don't know what the ad was selling. I was so shocked at the all-white cast, I didn't pay attention.

Posted by: one hour sober at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (Y1sOo)

79 That's not funny!

Greg Price@greg_price11
HAHAHAHA the leader of the Canadian Green Party says she is "increasingly nervous" about President Trump's jokes about Canada as the 51st state:
"To the extent that this was a joke, it's not funny."

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Poor celeries! You move to Canada because Trump won and now Trump is going to annex it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (L/fGl)

80 Woke ads suck, but one way or the other, I'm prepared for my Homegoing.

Posted by: Called Jonathan Lawson, Colonial Penn at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (G5+As)

81 I almost wish he hadn't had security. Can you imagine one of those soi bois going up against him?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:15 AM (xCA6C)

Just watch the video os Paul "Biz" Bisonette knocking the crap out of those 6 drunk irish dudes in AZ.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (CIS44)

82 50 In June, Target shook up its C-Suite, SBUX ditched its CEO in favor of Chipotle CEO. I don't recall Chipotle ever getting into a #Woke scrum.
Posted by: kallisto at December 11, 2024 11:12 AM (dCxaZ)

Target is in luv with guys who like getting shit on their dicks, and Chipotle is all about making sure there's no shortage of hershey's on the highway. A match made in hell, I'd say.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (2+SeL)

83 Buuuuut, if you were a knight in armor or on a horse. Yes, then big deadly problems.

Quicksand.....Pffft.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:13 AM (iJfKG)

Lightning sand, OTOH, is a terror. -- Buttercup

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (ExV1e)

84 The tide is turning. The Jaguar thing will turn it faster. For years, the Pervert Lobby used fear and intimidation to get their ideas through. One person could propose something stupid, but the rest of the room would be too afraid to reject it. Now people are more likely to stand up for sanity. Anyone putting forth Jaguar-type ideas should be fired immediately. How else should you treat an employee who will cost you billions of $$ in market value and permanently alienate your customers?

Posted by: Eternity Matters at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (qISOO)

85 She was in the Parenthod series with Craig T Nelson, well done show. Also in the Mighty Ducks show s1.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:11 AM (CIS44)

Thanks! After horror movies, I may have to check that out.

I only ever watched a few staple comedies and most tv became woke so I moved to kids comedies....which were pretty funny at times.

Disney actually had several series with no blacks or gays within the last several years. Then there were interracial relationships, gay parents, flaming relatives, and then just entirely black shows to drive away the rest of the audience.

Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 11:17 AM (jvJvP)

86 Awesome post - love it.

I do worry that the Dems will take Ruy Tiexera's advice to eschew bad ideas that voters hate and, at the same time, the Rs will go back to their comfort zone of being statist tools.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (ogTiX)

87 Quicksand.....Pffft.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:13 AM (iJfKG)

Yup. I tried up to my knees, and it was trivial.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (d9fT1)

88 Was this Walmart ad with Lauren Graham filmed some years ago, when the show was recently off the air, and being revived now? I wonder. Lauren looks as good as she did in 2000, while the guy playing Luke looks heavier and more grizzled.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (J2vNu)

89 AOP, so you didn't make Utah? Disappointing. Can you make AZ today?

Posted by: From about That Time at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (4780s)

90 It's a start but it won't last.

I was wondering when the Eeyore Chorus would make an appearance.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (xCA6C)

91 Most people are not ideological and just want to do what they can do well and to continue to exist in a woke WNBA, you mouth whatever they want publicly so you can continue to ply your craft.

No different than the QB in New Orleans, I think, that backtracked on some BLM nonsense. In both cases, it was not only dangerous to the paycheck to be different but to their actual health in leagues with thuggery by players.

In addition, most of those people in the public spotlight have 'handlers' as in public relations folks either working for them directly as a publicist or indirectly (hiring a firm) that handle all public pronouncements.

Heroes ain't gonna save us, it is up to each one of us to reject the poisoned chalice of wokeness and stand up in order for society to change and elites to be chastened.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM (ctrM5)

AKA - The KC kicker is a wild exception. And the fact his team all backed him tell you he's probably not the exception on that actual team...something, something team chemistry, something, something...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (exHjb)

92 88 Was this Walmart ad with Lauren Graham filmed some years ago, when the show was recently off the air, and being revived now? I wonder. Lauren looks as good as she did in 2000, while the guy playing Luke looks heavier and more grizzled.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (J2vNu)

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It's part of a series of ads for WalMart using Paramount properties (Sponge Bob is another). I assume it's all newly made this year, part of the effort to sell Paramount+ as part of the WalMart+ package.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:19 AM (cD1dp)

93 I'll believe woke and dei is dead when white men and woman in television and movies can have white spouses again.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 11, 2024 11:20 AM (2+SeL)

94 @29/davidt: "The ratchet turns one way."

Ratchets can be broken, and gears can be stripped. That which can not go on will not go on.

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 11, 2024 11:20 AM (O7YUW)

95 67 At the end of the day, The Gilmore Girls and their extended family and friends, were uniformly horrible people.

In some ways, they were even more horrible than the Seinfeld characters.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Wife watched them for awhile and even she commented as the series went rancid after about two years in or so. Subversion and inversion is fairly constant in a series allegedly wholesome. Ironically, I understand that part of the seed money for the Gilmore Girls series was from a family friendly source so of course the series actors and writers would turn to bite the hand that fed them.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:20 AM (ctrM5)

96 I just hope it's real.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

And Little Joe Mannix, the best monkey in Pokerville,

got his Christmas Wish!

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:20 AM (iJfKG)

97 Chipotle is all about making sure there's no shortage of hershey's on the highway

stuff double meat in mine, and yes I know it's extra

Posted by: Burritos are gay at December 11, 2024 11:20 AM (NGHTx)

98 I remember in 2020-21 feeling rage every time I saw people in ads wearing masks trying to normalize that crap of hiding your face. Enraging….. some CVS commercials still have that. Maybe Luigi put an end to that for good? Nah, some people has their brains permanently broken by that op

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (ANuwa)

99 /davidt: "The ratchet turns one way."

Did you try the lil switch on the back?

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (CIS44)

100 Govt put silent pressure on banks. Banks put silent pressure on corporate. BAM

Posted by: Braenard - some best friends are more important than others at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (J5DyF)

101 I saw The Doors' tribute band Peace Frog open for The Queue Of Crap at Morrison's Venice Beach Rooftop Experience in '99.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (SK2fc)

102 Was this Walmart ad with Lauren Graham filmed some years ago, when the show was recently off the air, and being revived now? I wonder. Lauren looks as good as she did in 2000, while the guy playing Luke looks heavier and more grizzled.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM

They keep kind of bringing it back with specials etc. The lady Minnfidels watch it, I do other stuff. But Lauren Graham is cute AF.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (4p0Xq)

103 Hochul's plan for a $300 payout will cause an increase in ODs and DWIs. It's NY where everything the government does goes sideways, at the very least

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (YO1Vi)

104 Man, it's gloom and rain outside all day today.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (xCA6C)

105 Mrs. Olson was married to Fritz Feld IRL. Pop!!

Posted by: Mountain Grown Mel at December 11, 2024 11:22 AM (G5+As)

106 AKA - The KC kicker is a wild exception. And the fact his team all backed him tell you he's probably not the exception on that actual team...something, something team chemistry, something, something...
Posted by: Nova Local
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Harder for the left to gin up hatred of religious values regarding family without being exposed for being haters themselves of all that is good or normal. That being said, it helped that he is apparently an excellent kicker and race was not involved.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:22 AM (ctrM5)

107 But Lauren Graham is cute AF.

She is, but Blake Lively is rowwrrrrrr.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)

108 She is, but Blake Lively is rowwrrrrrr.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:22 AM (xCA6C)

She rocked the hell out of that LadyPool suit that's for sure.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:23 AM (CIS44)

109 Wife watched them for awhile and even she commented as the series went rancid after about two years in or so. Subversion and inversion is fairly constant in a series allegedly wholesome. Ironically, I understand that part of the seed money for the Gilmore Girls series was from a family friendly source so of course the series actors and writers would turn to bite the hand that fed them.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024

***
My only complaint about the show was that big conflicts never seemed to happen. They were hinted at -- Lorelai estranging herself from her mother, for example -- but never followed through as strongly as they deserved. Sort of like Downton Abbey in that sense.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

110 88 Was this Walmart ad with Lauren Graham filmed some years ago, when the show was recently off the air, and being revived now? I wonder. Lauren looks as good as she did in 2000, while the guy playing Luke looks heavier and more grizzled.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:18 AM (J2vNu)

It looks new.

Scott Paterson was in three of the 'Saw' movies I watched in the last week or so. It was so weird seeing him without the cap.

He's also in some Canadian show up here.

?.....?.............

With all the woke crap in ads, you know what you don't see?

-Asians coupled with blacks
-Indians coupled with anyone

Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 11:23 AM (jvJvP)

111 Hochul's plan for a $300 payout will cause an increase in ODs and DWIs. It's NY where everything the government does goes sideways, at the very least
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2024 11:21 AM (YO1Vi)

Is that recurring or one-time and under what authority is she doing it?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 11, 2024 11:24 AM (ExV1e)

112 But Lauren Graham is cute AF.

She is, but Blake Lively is rowwrrrrrr.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:22 AM

Blake seems high maintenance. Lauren seems like she'd help you split firewood or paint the house with you.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:24 AM (4p0Xq)

113 /davidt: "The ratchet turns one way."

Did you try the lil switch on the back?
Posted by: BruceWayne

*Ace with his drill*

"That's not funny!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at December 11, 2024 11:24 AM (WXNFJ)

114 At the end of the day, The Gilmore Girls and their extended family and friends, were uniformly horrible people.

Their awfulness was astonishing.

It's like a lot of popular entertainment, where the writers' values are so fucked they have no idea how normies perceive them.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 11, 2024 11:24 AM (2+SeL)

115 Speaking of being revived, apparently Scrubs is making a comeback with many of the original cast.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 11, 2024 11:25 AM (L/fGl)

116 I almost wish he hadn't had security. Can you imagine one of those soi bois going up against him?
Posted by: Archimedes
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It's England where defending oneself is viewed as illegal in practice if not by law.

Note, the poor US woman being tried in Germany for stabbing and killing a Eritean 'refugee' that was attempting to sexually assault her.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:25 AM (ctrM5)

117 Political correctness upgraded to wokeness. Let’s hope the upgraded version of wokeness never takes root.

Posted by: Crazy at December 11, 2024 11:25 AM (M1rX/)

118 37
‘ McIntyre is facing a charge for Assaulting a Government Official according to Capitol Police. ’

Charge the bastard with insurrection and keep him in solitary for 4 years .

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 11, 2024 11:25 AM (jbnUc)

119 But Lauren Graham is cute AF.

She is, but Blake Lively is rowwrrrrrr.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024
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Blake seems high maintenance. Lauren seems like she'd help you split firewood or paint the house with you.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024

***
+ 1000

"Redneck girl got her name on the back of her belt. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:26 AM (J2vNu)

120 She is, but Blake Lively is rowwrrrrrr.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:22 AM

Blake seems high maintenance. Lauren seems like she'd help you split firewood or paint the house with you.
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:24 AM (4p0Xq)

Blake Lively, married to Ryan Reynolds, mother to 4, high maintenance? Seems unlikely to me.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 11, 2024 11:26 AM (ExV1e)

121 115 Speaking of being revived, apparently Scrubs is making a comeback with many of the original cast.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 11, 2024 11:25 AM (L/fGl)

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Cast has been teasing it for years, but yeah, it was greenlit last week or so.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:26 AM (cD1dp)

122 @111 seems to be a one time shot. I think she's claiming it falls under the "good and plenty" clause. Not real sure of the details, sounds like she's talking out of her butt

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2024 11:27 AM (YO1Vi)

123 Off the top of my head, I'm struggling to think of a good show that was revived and was also good. I'm sure there are examples. What are they?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 11, 2024 11:28 AM (2+SeL)

124 Blake Lively nailed her character in The Town, not the accent so much, but the character. Wow have I met that girl at least 200x.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:28 AM (CIS44)

125 My family is very religious. I am a devout Catholic and my son is a Crystal Methodist.
Posted by: Joe Biden

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:28 AM (spU3M)

126 When you start seeing in commercials pre-teen and teenage white males who aren't gay, trans, or being talked-down by boss girls then you'll know wokeness and DEI are dead.

Posted by: pchaz at December 11, 2024 11:29 AM (KspwL)

127 At the end of the day, The Gilmore Girls and their extended family and friends, were uniformly horrible people.
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Their awfulness was astonishing.

It's like a lot of popular entertainment, where the writers' values are so fucked they have no idea how normies perceive them.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 11, 2024

***
The Gilmore girls and Stars Hollow were the TV equivalent of those endless paperback "cozy" mysteries you see on the book racks, all with a cat on the cover. Except GG had actual funny dialog.

Personally I'd love to know Lorelai and Rory in real life, would probably not care for their mayor and not overmuch for Luke -- but they were never "awful."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:29 AM (J2vNu)

128 When you start seeing in commercials pre-teen and teenage white males who aren't gay, trans, or being talked-down by boss girls then you'll know wokeness and DEI are dead.
Posted by: pchaz at December 11, 2024 11:29 AM

Bring Out yer DEI......Bring Out yer DEI...

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:29 AM (4p0Xq)

129 The Crystal Method was a terrible "band."

I'm embarrassed to have owned that CD.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 11, 2024 11:29 AM (2+SeL)

130 My Mother the Tesla. Got potential

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (YO1Vi)

131 90 I was wondering when the Eeyore Chorus would make an appearance.

Not being an Eeyore in the least. I've just paid attention to the media for the past few years. At the moment, they realize that having "traditional" commercials are good for them. But then someone will demand that the DEI comes back because things are too heteronormative and people aren't being "noticed" or "included."

Posted by: NR Pax at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (BpO1e)

132 Crystal Methodist.

Posted by: Joe Biden

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:28 AM (spU3M)

I almost looked that up.

Posted by: BignJames at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (Yj6Os)

133 StopAntisemitism @StopAntisemites · 17h
Breaking - Police have searched the home of George Mason University students Jena & Noor Chanaa, sisters and SJP leaders, uncovering guns, ammunition, and foreign passports.

Disturbingly, the search also revealed pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags, along with signs reading "Death to America" and "Death to Jews."

Police suspect the Chanaa sisters spearheaded campus-wide vandalism, causing thousands of dollars in damages to the university.

https://tinyurl.com/5fu7594z
[ugly] photos

Auntie Polly @auntie_polly
Gee. They seem nice. 🤔🤨🐖🐖

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (hovnC)

134 Speaking of being revived, apparently Scrubs is making a comeback with many of the original cast.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

The two doctors have been doing a TMobile commercial lately.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (spU3M)

135 133 StopAntisemitism @StopAntisemites · 17h
Breaking - Police have searched the home of George Mason University students Jena & Noor Chanaa, sisters and SJP leaders, uncovering guns, ammunition, and foreign passports.

Disturbingly, the search also revealed pro-terror materials, including Hamas and Hezbollah flags, along with signs reading "Death to America" and "Death to Jews."

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (hovnC)

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"More American than Donald Trump!"
-DU, 99.957% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:31 AM (cD1dp)

136 My Mother the Tesla. Got potential
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2024

***
"Electric Excitement -- This Fall on NBC!!!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:31 AM (J2vNu)

137 The two doctors have been doing a TMobile commercial lately.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM

And they seem to be ghey AF in those ads for some reason.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:31 AM (4p0Xq)

138 134 The two doctors have been doing a TMobile commercial lately.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (spU3M)

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They're best friends in real life.

Braff has largely become a television director. He won an Emmy for directing Ted Lasso.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:31 AM (cD1dp)

139 126 When you start seeing in commercials pre-teen and teenage white males who aren't gay, trans, or being talked-down by boss girls then you'll know wokeness and DEI are dead.
Posted by: pchaz at December 11, 2024 11:29 AM (KspwL
Good assessment.

Posted by: Eromero at December 11, 2024 11:32 AM (jgmnb)

140 133 Gee. They seem nice.

I could fix them but honestly, whatever is wrong with them is a lot hotter.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 11, 2024 11:32 AM (BpO1e)

141 They're best friends in real life.

Braff has largely become a television director. He won an Emmy for directing Ted Lasso.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:31 AM (cD1dp)

they did a podcast together where they went through and talked about each episode of the show, had a lot of the other actors and Bill Lawrence on, being that it's one of my favorite shows I enjoyed it.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:32 AM (CIS44)

142 My only complaint about the show was that big conflicts never seemed to happen. They were hinted at -- Lorelai estranging herself from her mother, for example -- but never followed through as strongly as they deserved. Sort of like Downton Abbey in that sense.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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The child was a spoiled brat with no character development that inevitably got into bed with the ne'er do well. Even at college, she was a wooden actress that made Harrison Ford seem expressive.

Lorelei was the inevitable 'free spirit' that showed little if no growth as an alleged adult. We are supposed to side with her and her bedhopping, in favor of her awful family. Her mother was a reprehensible creep designed to show hypocrisy of the having normal values and the father was henpecked by the stronk wife but served as the financial piggybank role for stronk wife and kin.

A long litany of tropes and inversions designed to disgust someone aware of them. Don't care if Lauren is pretty scenery if the character she plays is a poor example of an adult.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:32 AM (ctrM5)

143 The Bud Light Shane Gillis ad about being on the wrong film set is probably the closest thing you'll get to an apology from Budweiser.

If they had come out with this ad a month after dylan mulvaney, they would still be #1 in beer sales.

18 months later? Too little, too late.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (yOPBE)

144 I saw some actual TV this weekend unfortunately at a friend's house which I never watch. And started taking note of whose commercials are leveraging Christmas with the imagery but refusing to mention the name. They can go and horsefuck.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (Im5uR)

145 Mulvaney wasn't the underlying problem in the Bud Light fiasco. Nobody gives a shit about some goofy internet weirdo. If he-she-it was the spokesthing for White Claw nobody would have batted an eye.

But the mutants in marketing said, "hey, normal Americans who drink normal beer, we hate you. We really really hate you. And now we're going to take this thing from you that you're mildly addicted to and that you consume to forget the drudgery of your life.... we're going to take it from you because we hate you, and we want you to know that we hate you"

Make aforementioned goofy internet thing the totem for your little hategasm, and goofy internet thing is gonna be the lightning rod for the hate you get in return.

See also: Star Wars. Music. Network sitcoms. Representative democracy. A functioning judiciary.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (y/ZMQ)

146
The Amazing Kreskin, George Kresge Jr., dead at 89

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM

another grim milestone for the biden-harris administration

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (tljrc)

147 George Mason seemed like an island of reason; sad to see the waves of LWNJ isanity crashing on its shores.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (ogTiX)

148 Original Gilmore Girls, good. Remake sucks. Rory turned into a slut. Sad.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (VjSGz)

149 I still wonder how a segment of society, the alphabet people, managed to claim such a significant amount of sway over said society.

I mean, they obviously had help from government, business, academia, etc. But, seriously, it's such a niche group to have that much power.

The entire alphabet society needs to be disappeared, for good.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (Q4IgG)

150 Afghanistan Route -
Breaking news is that Blinken is saying nobody expected puppet government in Afghanistan would collapse so quickly.
For some reason they are desperately rewriting that history.

Guessing 'so quickly' are the weasel words. They all expected collapse but thought it would take 5-10 days instead of 2-3?

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (/lPRQ)

151 141 they did a podcast together where they went through and talked about each episode of the show, had a lot of the other actors and Bill Lawrence on, being that it's one of my favorite shows I enjoyed it.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:32 AM (CIS44)

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That's a lot of podcast episodes.

But, then again, I do listen to the Taskmaster podcaster where Ed Gamble went through every episode of that show and has started going through some of the spinoff, like Taskmaster New Zealand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (cD1dp)

152 The one thing that will never die in commericals or T.V. The dad (if present) HAS to be a bumbling stumbling idiot who has only gotten so far in life because his womenz. Kids and wife are super smart natch!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (4p0Xq)

153 126 When you start seeing in commercials pre-teen and teenage white males who aren't gay, trans, or being talked-down by boss girls then you'll know wokeness and DEI are dead.

I would add "When you see military recruiting ads with white men that are straight and we're not in a state of hostilities with another country" to that list.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (BpO1e)

154 Is Woke dead? No. Is it declining? That will be determined by the young, in the long run, yes? When woke was folded into sexual mutilation that “ may” have been a fatal overreach. We’ll see, I guess.

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (4GXOe)

155 As a talk radio junkie -- and as much as I love President Trump and capitalism -- gotta be honest: for a few weeks now there have been radio ads (sponsoring some nationally-syndicated talk radio hosts) by Trump selling his own Trump watches, and it's so cringe that I have to turn it off.

The ad does start and end with funny lines though:

"Hello everybody, this is your Favorite President ...

[and]

... It's Trump Time!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (hI92n)

156 RaceTrac coffee is actually very good. You get it from a self serve machine that grinds and brews it to order. I recommend the dark roast if you come across one traveling. Much better than Starbucks and way less attitude.

Posted by: Clay at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (5KstD)

157 Speaking of being revived, apparently Scrubs is making a comeback with many of the original cast.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 11, 2024 11:25 AM (L/fGl)

Why not? Most of the actors careers, uh....went...on...hiatus, when the show ended.

Anyway, lotsa nostalgia based shows now. I expect that they're probably gonna jam a bunch of electrodes into Bob Keeshan's corpse and revive "Captain Kangaroo".

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (iJfKG)

158 Original Gilmore Girls, good. Remake sucks. Rory turned into a slut. Sad.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 11, 2024

***
The TV-movie? It had some good moments and a lot of the trademark vivacious dialog.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:35 AM (J2vNu)

159 At the end of the day, The Gilmore Girls and their extended family and friends, were uniformly horrible people.

Their awfulness was astonishing.

I thought the father, played by Edward Herrman, was sorta decent? Didn't watch the show that much.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:35 AM (v6JzV)

160 I almost wish he hadn't had security. Can you imagine one of those soi bois going up against him?
Posted by: Archimedes
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It's England where defending oneself is viewed as illegal in practice if not by law.

Note, the poor US woman being tried in Germany for stabbing and killing a Eritean 'refugee' that was attempting to sexually assault her.

Yes, but OTOH, he's black, so that would protect him.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:35 AM (xCA6C)

161 Original Gilmore Girls, good. Remake sucks. Rory turned into a slut. Sad.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM

That's what my wife and daughters told me. They were all excited for it. Their review was the same. Meh.

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:35 AM (4p0Xq)

162 If he-she-it was the spokesthing...
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s/h/it

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:35 AM (hovnC)

163 Blake Lively, married to Ryan Reynolds, mother to 4, high maintenance? Seems unlikely to me.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at December 11, 2024 11:26 AM (ExV1e)
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Blake Lively is weird by Hollywood standards. 4 kids, none of which are adopted? Weird.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 11, 2024 11:35 AM (tT6L1)

164 That's a lot of podcast episodes.

But, then again, I do listen to the Taskmaster podcaster where Ed Gamble went through every episode of that show and has started going through some of the spinoff, like Taskmaster New Zealand.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (cD1dp)

Ya it is, and the pods are longer than the episodes, hahah but it was fun to listen to.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (CIS44)

165 157 Why not? Most of the actors careers, uh....went...on...hiatus, when the show ended.

Anyway, lotsa nostalgia based shows now. I expect that they're probably gonna jam a bunch of electrodes into Bob Keeshan's corpse and revive "Captain Kangaroo".
Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (iJfKG)

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Being on a long-running sitcom is hitting the lottery second only to major movie star in Hollywood.

Braff was making $350,000 per episode by the end.

Heck, Frankie Muniz, the star of Malcom in the Middle barely worked after the end of his show and just races cars for fun now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (cD1dp)

166 134 Speaking of being revived, apparently Scrubs is making a comeback with many of the original cast.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Sequels are rarely satisfying. Spinoffs have the potential depending on the character. Cheers and Frasier are examples. Watched the one free season of Frasier reboot recently and it was decently done but not as good as the original show so far.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (ctrM5)

167 Used to work in the TV biz. The drama series are the worst: the only time you see a white male doctor or judge is when they are to be the evil character.

We will see when the first post-strike series appears next year. TV is so conformist that they will be the last to recover from woke.

Posted by: PJ at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (RRCAT)

168 147 George Mason seemed like an island of reason; sad to see the waves of LWNJ isanity crashing on its shores.
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:33 AM (ogTiX)

They are reason. Their home was searched as part of a criminal investigation for an August vandalism that exceeded $1K that was touted by their hate group. Rather than sit on that, GMU got campus and local police involved, identified the 2 ring leaders (the sisters), have them in "contempt" of the campus with 4 years of prohibition of entry, and suspended their hate group indefinitely. And now are continuing to pursue the crime.

That campus has been QUIET both times stuff tried to be started - last year, it was 2 immediate expulsions for a fight. This year, it's effectively 2 expulsions and possible now criminal charges for them (and their family) for the vandalism.

AKA - GMU don't play. You want to riot - go to DC, b/c VA laws will destroy you...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (exHjb)

169 125 My family is very religious. I am a devout Catholic and my son is a Crystal Methodist.
Posted by: Joe Biden
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Excellent!

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (XjTSo)

170 The Amazing Kreskin, George Kresge Jr., dead at 89

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM

Did not see that coming.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (Im5uR)

171 A lot of woke being quietly folded into the norm. In Washington State, the state's athletic association that covers all school sports is now (after years of supporting trans in girls sports) recommending three classes of sports. Boys. Girls. Trans.
And of course few will play in the trans class but our taxes will still be used to create it.
I didn't learn where everyone showers.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (W/lyH)

172 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?

Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

173 165

Being on a long-running sitcom is hitting the lottery second only to major movie star in Hollywood.

Braff was making $350,000 per episode by the end.

Heck, Frankie Muniz, the star of Malcom in the Middle barely worked after the end of his show and just races cars for fun now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (cD1dp)

Now do BBT… the regulars all got very very rich…

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (4GXOe)

174 Burritos are gay

After several months with a colostomy bag you'll never look at a burrito the same way.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 11, 2024 11:38 AM (pieWX)

175 Does it seem like a good idea to take Ron Johnson out of the Senate?

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2024 11:38 AM (wyMQY)

176 The one thing that will never die in commericals or T.V. The dad (if present) HAS to be a bumbling stumbling idiot who has only gotten so far in life because his womenz. Kids and wife are super smart natch!
Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024

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Sadly, that trope has been all over TV since the start. There were exceptions like Father Knows Best, and both Rob and Laura Petrie could goof up on occasion. But the trope of the successful-at-work husband being the doofus at home goes back a long way. Maybe even to the days of radio.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)

177 175 Does it seem like a good idea to take Ron Johnson out of the Senate?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2024 11:38 AM (wyMQY)

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Different Ron Johnson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:38 AM (cD1dp)

178 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

Addams Family Values

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pledge in a Beanie at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (xPJvm)

179 AKA - GMU don't play. You want to riot - go to DC, b/c VA laws will destroy you...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (exHjb)

Thank you for the correction - this is great to hear!

Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (ogTiX)

180 Does it seem like a good idea to take Ron Johnson out of the Senate?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2024 11:38 AM (wyMQY)

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Different Ron Johnson.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:38 AM (cD1dp)

Ya it's the one from Miami Vice, right?

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (CIS44)

181 So, you listen to me. Listen to me: Television is not the truth! Television is a God-damned amusement park! Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats, storytellers, dancers, singers, jugglers, side-show freaks, lion tamers, and football players. We're in the boredom-killing business! So if you want the truth... Go to God! Go to your gurus! Go to yourselves! Because that's the only place you're ever going to find any real truth.

Posted by: Howard Beale at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (Jq+og)

182 And, of course, the boyfriend is black.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)

Did I miss something?? Where is the "boyfriend"?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (iODuv)

183 178 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

Addams Family Values
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pledge in a Beanie at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (xPJvm)

Toy Story 3...a sequel, if not the sequel...
Avengers: Infinity War...again, a sequel, if not the direct sequel
Top Gun Maverick

Posted by: Nova Local at December 11, 2024 11:40 AM (exHjb)

184 LOL I should have made that more obviously trollish.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 11, 2024 11:40 AM (wyMQY)

185 Fun fact...

At the end of the 'Gilmore Girls' series, an already unlikable Rory became a journalist!

And got to cover the Obama campaign.

Unlikable slut....

Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 11:41 AM (jvJvP)

186 178 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

Addams Family Values
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pledge in a Beanie at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (xPJvm)

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The best Friday the 13th episode is the 6th.
The best Star Trek movie is the 6th.
The best Bond movie is the 3rd.

I actually don't think it's that rare for there to be superior sequels to the original. Some of the originals aren't very good (like Friday the 13th).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:41 AM (cD1dp)

187 I thought the father, played by Edward Herrman, was sorta decent? Didn't watch the show that much.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024

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He clearly loved his wife and daughter. He'd been disappointed by Lorelai when, at a very young age, she left school and got knocked up (by a guy who later is shown to have at least some presence in their daughter's life). But he then seemed proud that Lorelai had gone back to school while raising a smart daughter and had made a success of her life.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:41 AM (J2vNu)

188 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

Terminator was probably one.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:42 AM (Im5uR)

189 Now do BBT… the regulars all got very very rich…
Posted by: tubal

Yeah. A million an episode. Plus residuals.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:42 AM (spU3M)

190 A long litany of tropes and inversions designed to disgust someone aware of them.

This.

It was Murphy Brown values updated.

Anyone who's known unwed mothers who behave in this fashion knows the real life version is rather less cheery.

Cultural poison dressed up in pretty garb.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 11, 2024 11:42 AM (z5QST)

191 175 Does it seem like a good idea to take Ron Johnson out of the Senate?
Posted by: Tom Servo

Not the same guy. The guy for Mexico ambassadorship is a former Nat Sec type.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:42 AM (ctrM5)

192 179 AKA - GMU don't play. You want to riot - go to DC, b/c VA laws will destroy you...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 11, 2024 11:36 AM (exHjb)

Thank you for the correction - this is great to hear!
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:39 AM (ogTiX)

The current school president, a sane black man, has been a welcome addition to the area. He's a huge 1st amendment guy, but draws the line at anything destructive or violent (which one side only knows how to be)...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 11, 2024 11:42 AM (exHjb)

193 Mad Max?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (y/ZMQ)

194 Now do BBT… the regulars all got very very rich…
Posted by: tubal

And now working on it's 3rd spinoff.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (CIS44)

195 Alien II, The Mummy Returns…

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (4GXOe)

196 "Off the top of my head, I'm struggling to think of a good show that was revived and was also good. I'm sure there are examples. What are they?"

I'm a sucker for such things, but I enjoyed the revival of WKRP where Tawny Kittaen was part of the cast.

Posted by: Crusader at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (TN0g+)

197 188 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

Terminator was probably one.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:42 AM (Im5uR)

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I prefer the original there. Terminator is a clean circle. Terminator 2 is more extravagant action that's very fun but doesn't tie together quite as well as the first.

I actually prefer the 3rd over them both because it closes the circle that the 2nd tried to open.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (cD1dp)

198 194 Now do BBT… the regulars all got very very rich…
Posted by: tubal

And now working on it's 3rd spinoff.
Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (CIS44)

Filthy rich…

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (4GXOe)

199 193 Mad Max?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (y/ZMQ)

True! But could there have been a lower bar?

Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (ogTiX)

200 Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I am pleased to nominate Ronald (Ron) Johnson to serve as the United States Ambassador to Mexico. Ron will work closely with our great Secretary of State Nominee, Marco Rubio, to promote our Nation’s security and prosperity through strong America First Foreign Policies. During my First Term, Ron served as the Ambassador to El Salvador, where he worked tirelessly with Salvadoran authorities and our team to reduce violent crime and illegal migration to the lowest levels in History. He also served our Country for over twenty years with the Central Intelligence Agency after a distinguished career in the U.S. Army as a Green Beret. He graduated from the National Intelligence University with a Master of Strategic Intelligence.

Congratulations Ron. Together, we will put an end to migrant crime, stop the illegal flow of Fentanyl and other dangerous drugs into our Country and, MAKE AMERICA SAFE AGAIN!

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (hovnC)

201 Ronald Douglas Johnson served as the United States Ambassador to El Salvador from 2019 to 2021.[1] He was appointed ambassador by President Donald J. Trump on July 3, 2019.[2] At the time of his appointment, he was serving as the Central Intelligence Agency’s Science and Technology Liaison to the U.S. Special Operations Command, based in Tampa, Florida.[3] He was recently selected by President-elect Donald J. Trump to serve as the United States Ambassador to Mexico.[4]

Johnson has a Bachelor of Science from the University of the State of New York and a Master of Science from the National Intelligence University. From 1984 to 1998, Johnson served in the U.S. Army and retired as a colonel.[3][5]

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (hovnC)

202 I prefer the original there. Terminator is a clean circle. Terminator 2 is more extravagant action that's very fun but doesn't tie together quite as well as the first.

I actually prefer the 3rd over them both because it closes the circle that the 2nd tried to open.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (cD1dp)

I think it's very very close and definitely in the conversation. Also what about Aliens. Oh yeah and Evil Dead II, a masterpiece.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (Im5uR)

203 114
‘ the writers' values are so fucked they have no idea how normies perceive them.’

I think the writers know that very well and that is the link for them.
The producers are the ones who should care about perceptions and put a stop to the shit but don’t for some reason.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (jbnUc)

204 Last night we watched The Sticky, a new tv series.
Everyone was howling!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (c6hLR)

205 Last night we watched The Sticky, a new tv series.
Everyone was howling!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (c6hLR)

Margot Martindale is always enjoyable.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (CIS44)

206 the slow movement toward something approaching normality in advertising appears to have sped up rather a lot in the past couple of months.

So normal is the new normal?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (a3Q+t)

207 Again?

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (1K7Zj)

208 @177

>>Different Ron Johnson.

Mirror Universe SNL

Ron Johnson, meet Ron Johnsnon, Rohn Donson, Meet Rohn Johnson, Yohn Ronson, Meet Pam Yohnson.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (XV/Pl)

209 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?

Empire Strikes Back.

Posted by: Whatever at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (FeAkV)

210 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (ogTiX)

Terminator was probably one.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024

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Terminator II completely lacked the zing in dialog that the first film had shown, Sarah had become a savage girlboss type, and young John Connor was an incorrigible brat. I suppose the transformation of those two would have been survival-oriented in the Skynet world.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (J2vNu)

211 "The best Star Trek movie is the 6th."

The best Star Trek movie is ANY OF THEM other than the original. I love Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock, etc.

Posted by: Crusader at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (TN0g+)

212 That's a great ad, if you go for saccharine over-the-top sentimentality.

And the best part about this ad is when these $6,000 hearing aids finally die, I can pick up some AirPods for 300 bucks that work just as well.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (W/lyH)

213 Now do BBT… the regulars all got very very rich…
Posted by: tubal

And now working on it's 3rd spinoff.
Posted by: BruceWayne

And it's really stretching it.
Same with Reba McEntire and "Happy's Place".

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (spU3M)

214 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?

Empire Strikes Back.
Posted by: Whatever at December 11, 2024

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And of course, Wrath of Khan.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (J2vNu)

215 Caddyshack II is infinitely superior to the original.

Same with Meatballs 4!

Posted by: Good Taste Is Timeless! at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (G5+As)

216 Soo.. Home Alone, or Home Alone 2?? The Santa Klause, or Santa Klause 2 ??

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (4GXOe)

217 >>>The producers are the ones who should care about perceptions and put a stop to the shit but don’t for some reason.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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The bank.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (1K7Zj)

218 170 The Amazing Kreskin, George Kresge Jr., dead at 89

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:16 AM

Did not see that coming.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM (Im5uR)

I'm sure he did.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (VGRuw)

219 I'm gonna throw a new series out that I think was amazing (except the last episode was a little eh...but they wrapped the mystery in one season and didn't continue it).

Totally non woke, total feel story wrapped around a slightly ridiculous premise with Ted Danson. On Netflix.

A Man on the Inside

I loved it - it takes 4 hours to watch start to finish - I watched 2 episodes a night.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (exHjb)

220 211 "The best Star Trek movie is the 6th."

The best Star Trek movie is ANY OF THEM other than the original. I love Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock, etc.
Posted by: Crusader at December 11, 2024 11:45 AM (TN0g+)

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Brain fart. I actually meant 2.

But, I like The Motion Picture. It's weird. It's the dumb young sibling to 2001, but it's earnest and has some marvelous visuals.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (cD1dp)

221 116
‘ the poor US woman being tried in Germany for stabbing and killing a Eritean 'refugee' that was attempting to sexually assault her.’

I hope Trump makes Germany pay heavily for that.
They only have a country because we let them.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (jbnUc)

222
Wonder what Anthony Blinken's big payday will be for his memoir.

$20? Just like... you know.

Posted by: Auspex at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (j4U/Z)

223 203 114
‘ the writers' values are so fucked they have no idea how normies perceive them.’

I think the writers know that very well and that is the link for them.
The producers are the ones who should care about perceptions and put a stop to the shit but don’t for some reason.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Hollywood has a blob running it that is similar to that of DC. Failing upwards, being rewarded for subversion, lacking moral values, whoring oneself out for bucks. There is a reason that politics is described as Hollywood for ugly people.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (ctrM5)

224 Yes; Aliens was clearly superior to 1979's Alien, good as that was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)

225 The one thing that will never die in commericals or T.V. The dad (if present) HAS to be a bumbling stumbling idiot who has only gotten so far in life because his womenz. Kids and wife are super smart natch!

Posted by: Minnfidel at December 11, 2024 11:34 AM (4p0Xq)

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Has anybody ever traced this portrayal of fathers back to the original television character?

Did it start maybe with Archie Bunker -- or someone earlier?

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (FlnBp)

226 And, of course, the boyfriend is black.
Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:10 AM (xCA6C)

Did I miss something?? Where is the "boyfriend"?

My mistake. It was the new Volvo ad, at 2:21.
https://is.gd/NY8qfT

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (xCA6C)

227 216 Soo.. Home Alone, or Home Alone 2?? The Santa Klause, or Santa Klause 2 ??
Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:46 AM (4GXOe)

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Home Alone 2 is awful.

The coincidences to just get the movie going rise to ridiculous and perhaps self-satirical. It really needed Joe Dante to direct it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (cD1dp)

228 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 11:37 AM

The yet-to-be-made Prometheus II will undoubtedly qualify.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 11, 2024 11:48 AM (a3Q+t)

229 148 Ron Johnson ambassador to Mexico ? I don’t think that’s a good idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2024 08:58 PM (W6hoT)

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:48 AM (hovnC)

230 Yes; Aliens was clearly superior to 1979's Alien, good as that was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (J2vNu)

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"Game over, man!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:48 AM (FlnBp)

231 The Bride of Frankenstein was better than Frankenstein.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:48 AM (v6JzV)

232 I think it's very very close and definitely in the conversation. Also what about Aliens. Oh yeah and Evil Dead II, a masterpiece.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:44 AM (Im5uR)

Is this where someone mentions Prometheus?

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at December 11, 2024 11:49 AM (VGRuw)

233 I hope Trump makes Germany pay heavily for that.
They only have a country because we let them.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
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Be terrible if we pulled the rug from under the libertines.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 11, 2024 11:49 AM (1K7Zj)

234 Alien/ Aliens was also a good example of a strong female character that wasn't utterly absurd.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women can't be incels, it's impossible at December 11, 2024 11:49 AM (/nJKM)

235 @224

>>Yes; Aliens was clearly superior to 1979's Alien, good as that was.

Those are two wildly different films in terms of genre and aesthetic and are only comparable in that they might be the greatest films of their genre.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 11:49 AM (XV/Pl)

236 Aliens.. nearly a perfect movie.. rising to Galaxy Quest level of perfection..

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:49 AM (4GXOe)

237 Did it start maybe with Archie Bunker -- or someone earlier?
Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (FlnBp)

Not really a father, but the ur-Jackass husband figure has to be Ralph Cramden.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (y/ZMQ)

238 231 The Bride of Frankenstein was better than Frankenstein.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:48 AM (v6JzV)

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And The Invisible Man is superior to them both!

The Invisible Man, the film, was obviously inspired heavily by Fritz Lang's Dr. Mabuse movies, especially the second, The Testament of Dr. Mabuse.

Nolan had his brother study Mabuse when he was writing the Joker in The Dark Knight's script.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (cD1dp)

239 Oh -- Bride of Frankenstein is very much a superior sequel to 1931's Frankenstein. BoF has humor, some of it macabre, and it anchors itself in science fiction (the little homunculi in jars, e.g.) even more than the original did.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (J2vNu)

240 137
‘ And they seem to be ghey AF in those ads for some reason’

I’m glad someone else noticed that.
Expect that to be a feature in any reunion show.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (jbnUc)

241 Ward Cleaver, Jim Anderson, and Ozzie Nelson were not perfect, but were never portrayed as goofy screw-ups.

Posted by: George Baxter, Either at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (G5+As)

242 Alien was a horror movie. Aliens was an action adventure movie.

Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (i0F8b)

243 Is this where someone mentions Prometheus?
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at December 11, 2024 11:49 AM

That's twice. Awaiting the third ...

Posted by: Beetlejuice II at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (a3Q+t)

244 My 8 yo grandson is a huge Trump supporter.
Actually made sure the wife and myself voted.
As if I could love that kid more...

Posted by: Reforger at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM (xcIvR)

245 I like both Happy Death Day and Happy Death Day 2 which are each turn your brain off movies, and not really slashers.

In fact 2 kind of upends 1 in the best possible way, much better if you don't watch the trailer or otherwise have it ruined for you.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:51 AM (Im5uR)

246 About to head up to see my Mom. There's a Racetrac on the way that I will now make a point of patronizing.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at December 11, 2024 11:51 AM (wzAuc)

247 A modern Prometheus.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (1K7Zj)

248 I just hope it's real.
Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

And Little Joe Mannix, the best monkey in Pokerville,

got his Christmas Wish!
Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:20 AM (iJfKG)

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"Every time a bell rings, a monkey gets its wings."

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (FlnBp)

249 Ward Cleaver, Jim Anderson, and Ozzie Nelson were not perfect
Posted by: George Baxter, Either at December 11, 2024 11:50 AM

TBF, there were many nights that Ward was awfully hard on the Beaver.

Posted by: June at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (a3Q+t)

250 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay

Tremors? Tremors II? Tremors III?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (spU3M)

251 Im not even particularly a "horror" fan but whenever I watch Evil Dead 2 I realize it belongs in my top 20 films. Which seems really stupid when I'm not watching it.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (Im5uR)

252 250 Have any sequels been better than the original since Rocky II?
Posted by: Oglebay

Tremors? Tremors II? Tremors III?
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (spU3M)

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*nods sagaciously*

Redneck Dune.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (cD1dp)

253 Alien/ Aliens was also a good example of a strong female character that wasn't utterly absurd.
Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women can't be incels, it's impossible at December 11, 2024

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Exactly. Ripley was not along to fight with the Marines, she was there to advise because of her experience with the xenomorph. She and Corporal Hicks made a nice team -- neither tried to one-up the other; there wasn't time for such nonsense -- and her battle with the Mother Alien at the end made sense, as we'd been shown she had been working with those exoskeleton loaders earlier.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:53 AM (J2vNu)

254 Ron Johnson ambassador to Mexico ? I don’t think that’s a good idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2024 08:58 PM (W6hoT)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:48 AM (hovnC)

Should of picked a democrat for this job. It would look good domestically, and whoever it is will be high on the cartel's target list when PDT starts going after them.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 11, 2024 11:53 AM (W/lyH)

255 216 Soo.. Home Alone, or Home Alone 2?? The Santa Klause, or Santa Klause 2 ??
Posted by: tubal
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One trick of sequels is to repeat the original narrative but set it in a new location or with some new characters to replace originals. Home Alone I and II exhibit this as does the Indiana Jones original three movies.

Another is to continue a narrative arc--The Santa Klause was a success and thus 2 had to continue the development of the main tentpole character in some way. The original Star Wars trilogy is an example as well except with a trio of characters instead of one.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:53 AM (ctrM5)

256 251 Im not even particularly a "horror" fan but whenever I watch Evil Dead 2 I realize it belongs in my top 20 films. Which seems really stupid when I'm not watching it.
Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:52 AM (Im5uR)

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I got Junior to watch Army of Darkness a couple of months ago.

He liked it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:53 AM (cD1dp)

257 The best Friday the 13th episode is the 6th.
The best Star Trek movie is the 6th.
The best Bond movie is the 3rd.

I actually don't think it's that rare for there to be superior sequels to the original. Some of the originals aren't very good (like Friday the 13th).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:41 AM (cD1dp)

Don't care for 13th series.
I do like The Unknown Country, but Wrath of Khan was better paced and had a much better score.
Goldfinger is very good (especially since the screenwrter fixed Fleming's plot hole about removing the gold from Fort Knox) and it's one of my faves, but From Russia With Love has a lot going for it, too.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 11, 2024 11:53 AM (Q0kLU)

258 Did it start maybe with Archie Bunker -- or someone earlier?
Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:47 AM (FlnBp)
-------------

Rob Petrie says, "Hi."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (tT6L1)

259 Sarah had become a savage girlboss type,

I saw T2 opening weekend. The loudest audience cheer I have experienced in a theatre was Sarah Conner exiting the trailer gunned up, going to kill Dyson.

Her character in T2 was not "girlboss type"

Posted by: Chuck C at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (yOPBE)

260 Alien was a horror movie. Aliens was an action adventure movie.
Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2024

***
True. Both set against a science-fiction background, but true.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (J2vNu)

261 Should of picked a democrat for this job. It would look good domestically, and whoever it is will be high on the cartel's target list when PDT starts going after them.
Posted by: Diogenes
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NOT THE US Senator. See above. Appointed is a former Green Beret and CIA IC type.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (ctrM5)

262 184 people, many elderly , were killed over the weekend in Haiti. A local warlord had a son die and he was told that the child had been cursed by old people. By all means bring them here, completely rational folks

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (YO1Vi)

263 No love for Die Hard II?

Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (a3Q+t)

264 Most of Trump's picks thus far seem to be from Florida.

NTTAWWT.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (FlnBp)

265 @256

>>He liked it.

Ash: Groovy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (XV/Pl)

266 Kamala was supposed to be the girlboss sequel to Obama but got left on the cutting room floor. That's cutting with a t.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (Im5uR)

267 263 No love for Die Hard II?
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (a3Q+t)

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Die Hard II is an Airport movie that very inelegantly inserted John McClane into the action.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (cD1dp)

268 265 @256

>>He liked it.

Ash: Groovy.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (XV/Pl)

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Hail to the king, baby.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (cD1dp)

269 Mike Brady was a decent dad. As was Darrin Stephens, given what he had to deal with. And Steve Douglas.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (v6JzV)

270 As if things couldn't get any weirder:

Newsweek's Hugh Cameron reported Tuesday that Russia has returned the favor by dispatching 100 "pedigree dairy goats" in the latest "gesture of goodwill between Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un."

By my math, that means one Russian goat is worth no fewer than 100 North Korean soldiers. Who's poorly trained now, Mr. Unnamed Western Official?

BREAKING: Syria's new government announces it will move away from state-controlled economy to a free market model to attract investment

https://is.gd/ofUSmZ

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (xCA6C)

271 157
‘ jam a bunch of electrodes into Bob Keeshan's corpse and revive "Captain Kangaroo". ’

Why do that when we can have Jack Black play him for less?

Posted by: Hollywood Producers at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (jbnUc)

272 Should of picked a democrat for this job. It would look good domestically, and whoever it is will be high on the cartel's target list when PDT starts going after them.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Lindsey Graham

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (1K7Zj)

273
And The Invisible Man is superior to them both!

Yeah, I agree.

I'm excited to be (I hope) getting the 4K Universal Monster Collection for Christmas.

"Invisible Man" will be the first one in the player.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (iJfKG)

274 Beetlejuice II was ok. Not as good as Beetlejuice.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (spU3M)

275 Did it start maybe with Archie Bunker -- or someone earlier?

I do t think Archie was portrayed as stupid as in lacking in intelligence- "just" that he was kind of bigoted and didn't agree with Mike's "liberal"values .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (YoTD4)

276 I got Junior to watch Army of Darkness a couple of months ago.

He liked it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:53 AM (cD1dp)

I love that one too, a riot.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:56 AM (Im5uR)

277 273
And The Invisible Man is superior to them both!

Yeah, I agree.

I'm excited to be (I hope) getting the 4K Universal Monster Collection for Christmas.

"Invisible Man" will be the first one in the player.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM (iJfKG)

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I've read that the 4K scans are very good.

But I bought that very large Blu-ray set of the Universal Monster movies (31 of 'em, including the Spanish Dracula), and piecemeal replacing some of them to a slightly better format doesn't quite appeal tome.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:56 AM (cD1dp)

278 267 263 No love for Die Hard II?
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (a3Q+t)

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Die Hard II is an Airport movie that very inelegantly inserted John McClane into the action.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (cD1dp)

Yeah, never really liked that movie… just seemed, forced?

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:56 AM (4GXOe)

279 Bob Johnson?

.... that guy is terrifying.

Posted by: Big McLargeHuge at December 11, 2024 11:56 AM (y/ZMQ)

280 Posted by: Joe Mannix
.......

Did I miss the busty bikini brunette?

Posted by: wth at December 11, 2024 11:56 AM (v0R5T)

281 278 Die Hard II is an Airport movie that very inelegantly inserted John McClane into the action.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:54 AM (cD1dp)

Yeah, never really liked that movie… just seemed, forced?
Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:56 AM (4GXOe)

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William Sadler's a fun villain, but that's kind of the extent of the appeal of the film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (cD1dp)

282 No love for Die Hard II?
Posted by: Philosomoron at December 11, 2024

***
It's a worthy continuation of the adventures of John McClane. If they had been a novel series, II would be accounted a fine successor to the first book.

Not sure about the third film, though I like it. And I haven't seen any of the others.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (J2vNu)

283 150 Afghanistan Route -
Breaking news is that Blinken is saying nobody expected puppet government in Afghanistan would collapse so quickly.
For some reason they are desperately rewriting that history.

Guessing 'so quickly' are the weasel words. They all expected collapse but thought it would take 5-10 days instead of 2-3?
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A lot of denial there, but it happens when governments abandon policies they've realized are folly. After the policy of folly crashes & burns, the government begins the search for excuses to explain how it really wasn't their fault, generally or specifically. Trump's plan had us staying in Kandahar to ensure the government in Kabul kept its nerve and was protected from the whims of the Taliban chieftains. The Potato's plan (Kamala helped!) was "drop everything and fly away", which of course led to panic as the Afghan government abruptly realized they had been thrown to the wolves.

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (XjTSo)

284 My uncle did some of the Special Effects in Evil Dead 2.
Classmate of the Raimi brothers (and that fat blowhard liberal asshole) in film school.

Posted by: Reforger at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (xcIvR)

285 All in the Family seems to be when network TV went full proggie propaganda.

Posted by: davidt at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (i0F8b)

286 So very, very tired of hearing, "Woke."

--

It comes in behind anything racism-related, but it's right up there for me too. So sick of them both.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (qBdHI)

287 The Channa sisters nose, teeth and chin combo busts the wind just like those things on semi tractors. Very efficient.

Posted by: From about That Time at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (4780s)

288 And Son of Frankenstein isn't bad, either.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (v6JzV)

289 good sequel - Return of the Living Dead II

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 11, 2024 11:58 AM (Pv3Rg)

290 If she can't be the US Ambassador to Mexico, perhaps Trump can appoint Kari Lake to be the new Governor of the Great State of Canada.

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:58 AM (FlnBp)

291 The Hill @thehill 4h
Republican senators say they won’t fight Donald Trump on Jan. 6 pardons trib.al/zFFdMLt

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 3h
I don't think a Republican could get reelected after opposing Jan6 pardons. That's an obvious red line.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:58 AM (hovnC)

292 As was Darrin Stephens, given what he had to deal with. And Steve Douglas.
Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024

***
Seconded. As for Mike Brady, I never watched Brady Bunch; it came along a little too late for me to enjoy it wholeheartedly.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (J2vNu)

293 North Koreans are being blooded and trained. The N Korean army will be the better for it. If any survive or don't defect.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (1K7Zj)

294 291 The Hill @thehill 4h
Republican senators say they won’t fight Donald Trump on Jan. 6 pardons trib.al/zFFdMLt

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 3h
I don't think a Republican could get reelected after opposing Jan6 pardons. That's an obvious red line.
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:58 AM (hovnC)

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And what material thing could they do to stop him?

As explained every four years, the pardon power is plenary and absolute and invested in the office of the president alone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (cD1dp)

295 My uncle did some of the Special Effects in Evil Dead 2.
Classmate of the Raimi brothers (and that fat blowhard liberal asshole) in film school.

Posted by: Reforger at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (xcIvR)

Awesome! There is a half hour or so "extra" that does behind the scenes from one of the many versions of the DVD and I love it. Seems like it would have been a blast.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (Im5uR)

296 The Hill @thehill 4h
Republican senators say they won’t fight Donald Trump on Jan. 6 pardons trib.al/zFFdMLt

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 3h
I don't think a Republican could get reelected after opposing Jan6 pardons. That's an obvious red line.

I kind of wish Murk or Cornyn would fight him. It would guarantee their departure at the next election.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (xCA6C)

297 290 If she can't be the US Ambassador to Mexico, perhaps Trump can appoint Kari Lake to be the new Governor of the Great State of Canada.
Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 11:58 AM (FlnBp

Nearly ashamed to admit it, but I know next to nothing about her. Is she all that?

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (4GXOe)

298 Zombieland or Zombieland: Double Tap?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (spU3M)

299 Seconded. As for Mike Brady, I never watched Brady Bunch; it came along a little too late for me to enjoy it wholeheartedly.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

You missed peak Anne B. Davis.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (v6JzV)

300 Die Hard 2 was good in it's time. Again probably what I would consider a "popcorn" or turn your brain off movie. Didn't like 3 at all.

Posted by: ... at December 11, 2024 12:00 PM (Im5uR)

301 The Post Millennial @TPostMillennial 5h
Reuters "fact-checks" Babylon Bee joke that "Allahu Akbar" has replaced "Cheerio Mate" as UK greeting

ow.ly/FYsA50UoI9s

Reuters ‘fact-checks’ Babylon Bee joke that ‘Allahu Akbar’ has replaced ‘Cheerio Mate’ as UK...
“Reuters fact-checkers reached out for comment on our Babylon Bee story about ‘Allahu Akbar’ replacing ‘Cheerio Mate’ in the UK. I tried to help them out.”

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 12:00 PM (hovnC)

302 133 Police have searched the home of George Mason University students Jena & Noor Chanaa, sisters and SJP leaders, uncovering guns, ammunition, and foreign passports.

Auntie Polly @auntie_polly
Gee. They seem nice. 🤔🤨🐖🐖
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:30 AM (hovnC)

🎶 Cha-naa-naa-naa.

Posted by: m at December 11, 2024 12:00 PM (VnUSN)

303 Afghanistan Route -
Breaking news is that Blinken is saying nobody expected puppet government in Afghanistan would collapse so quickly.
For some reason they are desperately rewriting that history.

-

That's so weird considering they were almost certainly the ones that put them in power.

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women can't be incels, it's impossible at December 11, 2024 12:01 PM (pCjec)

304 If she can't be the US Ambassador to Mexico, perhaps Trump can appoint Kari Lake to be the new Governor of the Great State of Canada.
Posted by: ShainS

Ambassador to Greenland and Facilitator of Annexation.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at December 11, 2024 12:01 PM (spU3M)

305 "As for Mike Brady, I never watched Brady Bunch; it came along a little too late for me to enjoy it wholeheartedly."

Carol Brady...hubba hubba hubba!

Posted by: Crusader at December 11, 2024 12:01 PM (TN0g+)

306 My uncle did some of the Special Effects in Evil Dead 2.
Classmate of the Raimi brothers (and that fat blowhard liberal asshole) in film school.

Posted by: Reforger at December 11, 2024 11:57 AM (xcIvR)

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You're gonna have to be a lot more specific ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 12:01 PM (FlnBp)

307 Musa al-Gharbi argues that woke is underemployed elites (churned out of universities or other certification systems) trying to find an oppressed minority that they can adopt, and lead to the elite's own profit as their very own subject demographic. It seems to be the outgrowth of Marx' immiseration, where the normie population has to be brought to such a miserable state that they can be given the option of bettering their lives, of course being led by the firm, educated hand of their natural elites.

It ends either when the "immiserated" classes walk away, or the elites wind up eating each other. It never makes the world or society better, and in general ruins everyone's lives by locking society into a system of exploitation and repression.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2024 12:02 PM (D7oie)

308 @294

>>As explained every four years, the pardon power is plenary and absolute and invested in the office of the president alone.

They could f**k with his appointments as well as his funding priorities.

Remember, they couldn't find 5B to fund a border wall but they managed to find 200B to give to Ukraine.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 12:02 PM (XV/Pl)

309 If she can't be the US Ambassador to Mexico, perhaps Trump can appoint Kari Lake to be the new Governor of the Great State of Canada.
Posted by: ShainS
......

But Canada doesn't have avocados.

Posted by: wth at December 11, 2024 12:02 PM (v0R5T)

310 I do t think Archie was portrayed as stupid as in lacking in intelligence- "just" that he was kind of bigoted and didn't agree with Mike's "liberal"values .

Born in '72. If they tried to paint Archie Bunker as dumb ? They failed - at least with me.

Posted by: Whatever at December 11, 2024 12:02 PM (FeAkV)

311 I don't recall Chipotle ever getting into a #Woke scrum.

Back in 2013 when they were killing people regularly because employees didn't wash their hands, they stopped carrying pork products because of global warming or something. I believe they've since come creeping back, but I haven't eaten there since that time.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 11, 2024 12:02 PM (2ocoG)

312 308 They could f**k with his appointments as well as his funding priorities.

Remember, they couldn't find 5B to fund a border wall but they managed to find 200B to give to Ukraine.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 12:02 PM (XV/Pl)

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That's true.

Holding the entire Trump admin hostage because he's using his legal, constitutional power to pardon people he's promised to pardon would be quite a look for his own party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 12:03 PM (cD1dp)

313 285 All in the Family seems to be when network TV went full proggie propaganda.
Posted by: davidt
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Network tv depended on the good will of gubmint to keep their licenses, elites working inside the industry and their values, and society around them to provide them with sheep to fleece in the guise of entertainment.

Basically, if you ain't paying for it or making it, then you get whatever the blob decides that you shall consume. This model worked best when there were few if any alternatives such as Network TV and less so regarding movies and books.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 12:03 PM (ctrM5)

314 269 Mike Brady was a decent dad. As was Darrin Stephens, given what he had to deal with. And Steve Douglas.

Posted by: Bulg at December 11, 2024 11:55 AM

Surprisingly, a lot of the Dads on Disney shows were pretty good. They had their own businesses in a lot of cases. Involved in the kids lives. Which you'd want your kid to see.

The Nickelodeon creepy guy, Schneider, all of his shows had absent parents for the most part.

Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 12:03 PM (jvJvP)

315 I've read that the 4K scans are very good.

But I bought that very large Blu-ray set of the Universal Monster movies (31 of 'em, including the Spanish Dracula), and piecemeal replacing some of them to a slightly better format doesn't quite appeal tome.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:56 AM (cD1dp)

I get that. I was thinking of getting that collection instead. But, not a big fan of most of them beyond the original.

Maybe some of the Mummy sequels. Maybe "Ghost of Frankenstein" IIRC.

Do you find many of the sequels worthwhile?

Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 12:03 PM (iJfKG)

316 I do t think Archie was portrayed as stupid as in lacking in intelligence- "just" that he was kind of bigoted and didn't agree with Mike's "liberal"values .

That was one of the first major breakouts of "the idiot consumers don't understand what we're saying". Archie was intended to be a Nazi, but the dumb viewers liked him.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 11, 2024 12:03 PM (2ocoG)

317 @312

>>Holding the entire Trump admin hostage because he's using his legal, constitutional power to pardon people he's promised to pardon would be quite a look for his own party.

To Paraphrase Sam Gerard: They don't care.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 11, 2024 12:04 PM (XV/Pl)

318 The best Star Trek movie is ANY OF THEM other than the original. I love Wrath of Kahn, Search for Spock, etc.

--

Anything with Ricardo Montalban in it works for me! I do love Wrath of Kahn. He had massive screen and sex appeal, imo.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 11, 2024 12:04 PM (qBdHI)

319 I thought Mr. B often played the part of the fool on Hazel.

Posted by: Oglebay at December 11, 2024 12:05 PM (ogTiX)

320 The Brady Bunch was killed by Sanford and Son. I blame Lamont, the Big Dummy!

Posted by: Cousin Oliver at December 11, 2024 12:05 PM (G5+As)

321 315 I get that. I was thinking of getting that collection instead. But, not a big fan of most of them beyond the original.

Maybe some of the Mummy sequels. Maybe "Ghost of Frankenstein" IIRC.

Do you find many of the sequels worthwhile?
Posted by: naturalfake at December 11, 2024 12:03 PM (iJfKG)

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That's the irony. Most of the sequels are kind of terrible. The Mummy franchise as a whole is awful.

However, there are bright spots. Son of Frankenstein is good. Son of Dracula doesn't work, but it's got a really good ending. The Abbott and Costello films are pretty universally fun, not just Frankenstein. A couple of the earlier mash up films are surprisingly decent.

But it's solidly less than half of the whole package. Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 12:05 PM (cD1dp)

322 Recalcitrant Republicans??? Primary them to death…

Posted by: tubal at December 11, 2024 12:05 PM (4GXOe)

323 The Post Millennial @TPostMillennial 5h
Reuters "fact-checks" Babylon Bee joke that "Allahu Akbar" has replaced "Cheerio Mate" as UK greeting

ow.ly/FYsA50UoI9s

Reuters ‘fact-checks’ Babylon Bee joke that ‘Allahu Akbar’ has replaced ‘Cheerio Mate’ as UK...
“Reuters fact-checkers reached out for comment on our Babylon Bee story about ‘Allahu Akbar’ replacing ‘Cheerio Mate’ in the UK. I tried to help them out.”

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 12:00 PM (hovnC)

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Next you'll be telling me that the Babylon Bee claimed Muhammad has been the most popular birth name of children born in London over the last decade-plus.

Wait, wut?

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 12:06 PM (1M4M0)

324 > Police have searched the home of George Mason University students Jena & Noor Chanaa, sisters and SJP leaders, uncovering guns, ammunition, and foreign passports.
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If/when the various terrorists that infiltrated our country decide it's go time, people like these "students" along with their compatriots at other institutions of "higher learning" are going to join them.

While they may not do more than provide logistical support, the rush they'll get is what they desire. The beheadings later, not so much. But that doesn't even register with these terrorist cosplayers.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 11, 2024 12:06 PM (Q4IgG)

325 That was one of the first major breakouts of "the idiot consumers don't understand what we're saying". Archie was intended to be a Nazi, but the dumb viewers liked him.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 11, 2024 12:03 PM (2ocoG)

Ron Swanson - Parks and Rec
Jack Donaghey - 30 Rock
Jo - Mythic Quest

are great examples of this

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 12:06 PM (CIS44)

326 319 I thought Mr. B often played the part of the fool on Hazel.
Posted by: Oglebay

Not really a fool, but Hazel did bail him out regularly.

Posted by: Ghost of Sport at December 11, 2024 12:07 PM (G5+As)

327 "Fun Awful" has probably been around as a storytelling trope since Shakespeare.

Posted by: Big McLargeHuge at December 11, 2024 12:07 PM (y/ZMQ)

328 I liked Dracula's Daughter, even though it's not technically a sequel.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 11, 2024 12:07 PM (Q0kLU)

329 Insurrection Barbie @DefiyantlyFree Dec 10
Trump’s cabinet appointees all received bomb threats. Tim Burchett was just swatted with a bomb threat, and Marjorie Taylor Greene was swatted with a bomb threat that resulted in the death of innocent woman who got into a car accident with a police.

I’m wondering what the nonpartisan FBI and DOJ is doing about this because we have not heard a word about any of it.

Furthermore, we have not heard anything about the attempted assassination on Donald J Trump at Butler or at the golf course.

Other than arresting grandmother’s for trespassing on January 6th, what is this “non-partisan” DOJ and FBI doing?
Dec 11, 2024 · 1:33 PM UTC

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 3h
Republicans still being hunted.

Trump (assassination attempt)
Nancy Grace (attacked)
MTG (bomb threat)
Tim Burchett (bomb threat)

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 12:08 PM (hovnC)

330 (Mst3k sock, off)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 11, 2024 12:08 PM (y/ZMQ)

331 328 I liked Dracula's Daughter, even though it's not technically a sequel.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at December 11, 2024 12:07 PM (Q0kLU)

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I did too. I just kinda forgot about it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 12:08 PM (cD1dp)

332 301 The Post Millennial @TPostMillennial 5h
Reuters "fact-checks" Babylon Bee joke that "Allahu Akbar" has replaced "Cheerio Mate" as UK greeting

ow.ly/FYsA50UoI9s
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 12:00 PM (hovnC)

Ah, so they're starting this shit again.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 11, 2024 12:08 PM (DTX3h)

333
You missed peak Anne B. Davis.
Posted by: Bulg

Spit out my Bloody Mary over that one.

Posted by: Auspex at December 11, 2024 12:08 PM (j4U/Z)

334 Hank Hill was great.

Posted by: Stateless at December 11, 2024 12:09 PM (jvJvP)

335 And what material thing could they do to stop him?

As explained every four years, the pardon power is plenary and absolute and invested in the office of the president alone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:59 AM (cD1dp)

Foot stomping and tantrums. It's the way of the GOPe.

Posted by: LASue at December 11, 2024 12:09 PM (lCppi)

336 You're gonna have to be a lot more specific ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 12:01 PM (FlnBp)

He did Roger and Me and a few other forgetable films...
Michel Moore.

Posted by: Reforger at December 11, 2024 12:09 PM (xcIvR)

337 Shirley Booth won the Triple Crown of Acting, Oscar, Emmy, Tony. Only about 25 people have done that.

Posted by: Come Back, Little Sheba at December 11, 2024 12:10 PM (G5+As)

338 I actually prefer the 3rd over them both because it closes the circle that the 2nd tried to open.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 11:43 AM (cD1dp)

T3 is a well-made and fun movie, but it destroys the entire franchise.

If you had to sum up Terminator in a phrase, it's "no fate but what we make." The future isn't set in stone and can be changed. That's why Skynet keeps sending Terminators to kill John Connor before he can be born, and why the good guys keep trying to kill Skynet before it can be born.

Then T3 came along with "Judgment Day is inevitable," which means all of the above is pointless since Skynet will always lose, and John Connor will always win.

Posted by: MrUNIVAC at December 11, 2024 12:10 PM (lHQOK)

339 like in this monstrous ad for Marshall

Dana Carvey as the Cranky Old Man on SNL:

"And when she took off her nightgown, you tried not to scream!!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 11, 2024 12:10 PM (/HDaX)

340 Shirley Booth won the Triple Crown of Acting, Oscar, Emmy, Tony. Only about 25 people have done that.
Posted by: Come Back, Little Sheba at December 11, 2024 12:10 PM (G5+As)

Just missing the Grammy for the EGOT, Whoopsi has that.

Posted by: BruceWayne at December 11, 2024 12:10 PM (CIS44)

341
Anything with Ricardo Montalban in it works for me! I do love Wrath of Kahn. He had massive screen and sex appeal, imo.
Posted by: Lady in Black

That cleavage in the movie was the real deal, not a fake.

Posted by: Auspex at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (j4U/Z)

342 Paul: Any thinking person knows that homo sapiens is a killer.

Edith: Homo Sapiens? Is he an Arab?

Archie: No Edith! Homo Sapiens....that's a killer fag!

Posted by: Archie Is Branded at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (Jq+og)

343 The Brady Bunch was killed by Sanford and Son. I blame Lamont, the Big Dummy!

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I thought it was Susan Olsen having to do her little Shirley Temple portrayal there at the end.

That...and Oliver killed the Bunch.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (qBdHI)

344 Ace is up

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (dEYSD)

345 As explained every four years, the pardon power is plenary and absolute and invested in the office of the president alone.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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The plenary power exists because it is impossible to be a tyrant when pardoning or commuting someone's sentence. Sort of a circuit breaker to prevent injustice in the individual case and to preserve public peace when applied broadly. Historically the founders gave the pardon power to the executive based on a history from the plenary power of monarchs to pardon/commute.

An early use was during the Whiskey Rebellion in PA and Washington's pardons followed a similar method to the British Monarchy pardons for the various rebellions and riots in that country.

For the most part, pardons either focus specifically on one individual and can include all potential uncharged conduct (see Nixon's pardon by Gerald Ford) or when applied to a group, it has a common denominator of charges and the situation in which it occurred such as the Vietnam draft evasions.

Whether it is unlimited in fact would probably never make Scotus because of standing, political question doctrine, and separation of powers doctrine.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (ctrM5)

346 Ron Johnson ambassador to Mexico ? I don’t think that’s a good idea.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2024 08:58 PM (W6hoT)
Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at December 11, 2024 11:48 AM (hovnC)

Should of picked a democrat for this job. It would look good domestically, and whoever it is will be high on the cartel's target list when PDT starts going after them.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 11, 2024 11:53 AM (W/lyH)

Is there a dem senator (or even congress critter ) in a red state run by a R governor who Trump might tempt?

Posted by: LASue at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (lCppi)

347 338 T3 is a well-made and fun movie, but it destroys the entire franchise.

If you had to sum up Terminator in a phrase, it's "no fate but what we make." The future isn't set in stone and can be changed. That's why Skynet keeps sending Terminators to kill John Connor before he can be born, and why the good guys keep trying to kill Skynet before it can be born.

Then T3 came along with "Judgment Day is inevitable," which means all of the above is pointless since Skynet will always lose, and John Connor will always win.
Posted by: MrUNIVAC at December 11, 2024 12:10 PM (lHQOK)

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Counter:

T2 destroyed the mythos of T1. The closed circle of the dramatic arc undermined the message of "no fate but what we make" because despite everything, Sarah ended up exactly where she was always going to be. It was more about investing Sarah with fight, not saying that Judgment Day could be avoided.

T3 brings the franchise back to where T1 was before T2 broke it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (cD1dp)

348 " Shirley Booth won the Triple Crown of Acting, Oscar, Emmy, Tony. Only about 25 people have done that.
Posted by: Come Back, Little Sheba"

I remember that. When she was talking about her dream was hilarious.

Posted by: eleven at December 11, 2024 12:12 PM (iziT8)

349 Come Back, Little Sheba

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^^^ is an excellent movie.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 11, 2024 12:12 PM (qBdHI)

350 nood Morans.

Posted by: eleven at December 11, 2024 12:12 PM (iziT8)

351 Please Trump pardon all Americans, every single one, with the exception of government employees and people involved in the child s3x slave trade.

"If it's good enough for the Bidens, it's good enough for you. All crimes from this point on are to be handled at the state level. Federal law enforcement is no longer an option for non-government employees."

Posted by: Boron Cobbie - Women can't be incels, it's impossible at December 11, 2024 12:12 PM (pCjec)

352 345
Whether it is unlimited in fact would probably never make Scotus because of standing, political question doctrine, and separation of powers doctrine.
Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 12:11 PM (ctrM5)

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Yeah, that's what I've been saying since Hunter got his pardon.

All questions around it are academic because there isn't a circuit court in the land that would tolerate a lawsuit challenging the pardon for absolutely any reason. The constitution is simply way too clear on this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, trying to figure out Joel Schumacher at December 11, 2024 12:13 PM (cD1dp)

353 Well the wokeness stupidity in advertising is so transparent, it's a caricature so it doesn't work anymore for scoring woke points.

Posted by: actually inside the beltway at December 11, 2024 12:14 PM (n17eQ)

354 263 No love for Die Hard II?
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I like the movie, but it isn't as good as 1 & 3. It is not as over the top as 4 & 5. It did try to be a good sequel by copying some of the beats from #1. The bad guys aren't what they seem, the immediate authorities aren't trustworthy or competent, the one reporter is an asshole, and our boy is on the clock. McClain still gets to act like a proper detective and figure out the scam, although by then there is little time to stop the bad guys except balls to the wall hero stuff.

It hasn't held up as well over the years, although as a dude who watched many Eighties & Nineties action films I'll give it a pass. Like I'm going to pretend here that I watched & enjoyed derivative films back then!

But #3 is a better film because it keeps the premise, but changes things up a bit, while keeping McClain on the hero-by-accident level as he was in #1.

Posted by: exdem13 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT at December 11, 2024 12:14 PM (XjTSo)

355 Foot stomping and tantrums. It's the way of the GOPe.
Posted by: LASue
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Most of the usual GOPe suspects, like Lady Lindsay and McConnell are unlikely to really want Jan 6 events rehashed in public as those two in particular did some pretty abominable things.

Jan 6 charges were really about lese majeste than any serious threat to safety of Congress critters. When they continue to arm someone like Byrd, they are at more risk from their own capitol hill police force than the protesters.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 12:15 PM (ctrM5)

356 310
‘ If they tried to paint Archie Bunker as dumb ? They failed - at least with me’

It backfired. I saw someone with an Archie Bunker for president T shirt during that time.

Posted by: Hollywood Producers at December 11, 2024 12:16 PM (jbnUc)

357 Foot stomping and tantrums. It's the way of the GOPe.
Posted by: LASue at December 11, 2024 12:09 PM (lCppi)

they can impeach him again, it is the one thing the Legislative branch can do against the President performing his Constitutional powers in a way the Legislature doesn't like

Posted by: Kindltot at December 11, 2024 12:16 PM (D7oie)

358 Nood Nancy Mace (no, not like that)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at December 11, 2024 12:16 PM (J2vNu)

359 Is there a dem senator (or even congress critter ) in a red state run by a R governor who Trump might tempt?
Posted by: LASue
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For the last time, the appointed ambassador Ron Johnson is NOT the Senator Ron Johnson from WI. The appointee CV is above and he is an IC/CIA/Green Beret critter.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 12:17 PM (ctrM5)

360 Army of Darkness

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They prefer to be called Black Lives Matter.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at December 11, 2024 12:17 PM (L/fGl)

361 Has anybody ever traced this portrayal of fathers back to the original television character?

Because the original character is not from television, not even radio. You break right through into Life with Father, and the archetypes are in Roman satires. We did not invent this.

Posted by: Way,Way Downriver at December 11, 2024 12:20 PM (zdLoL)

362 they can impeach him again, it is the one thing the Legislative branch can do against the President performing his Constitutional powers in a way the Legislature doesn't like
Posted by: Kindltot
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To do that, the House would have to do it and then the Senate convict. Doubtful. There is a reason that the British Parliament ended the practice as ineffective and the Founders themselves were divided on the issue.

The Constitutional Convention itself occurred during the famous impeachment trial of Hastings as Gov. General of India. It too ultimately failed after 7 years.

Posted by: whig at December 11, 2024 12:20 PM (ctrM5)

363 "293 North Koreans are being blooded and trained. The N Korean army will be the better for it. If any survive or don't defect."
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Maybe. But once the survivors get back to NORK and tell their comrades about what they are missing in the outside world, they may all defect to the South.

Posted by: Cosda at December 11, 2024 12:21 PM (RWfpo)

364 He did Roger and Me and a few other forgetable films...
Michel Moore.

Posted by: Reforger at December 11, 2024 12:09 PM (xcIvR)

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Ah, gotcha. Thanks ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Deus Ex Muskina [h/t Mike Benz] at December 11, 2024 12:22 PM (1M4M0)

365 The best commercial I've seen recently has heavy play on Fox News and it started right after Trump said he'd impose 25% tariffs on Canada. The ad is from the Ontario government and talks about how good friends they are with the US, how important trade is between them and many US states, how they love Americans to visit. Pretty funny timing.

Posted by: Jonathan at December 11, 2024 01:11 PM (d6sfO)

366 Man, it's gloom and rain outside all day today.

Arch, come to Florida, it's 75 and sunny

Posted by: Mike the Marine at December 11, 2024 02:16 PM (OozDa)

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