FOOD THREAD – Sunday 12/01/2024

[Greetings to all of you who have come here for an exposition on the finer pleasures of cooking and dining. This is certainly the place to find it…but not today. Your regular host, Mr. CBD, should be back on the job by next week. Until then, here is a little something to chew on. – Buck]

Family Recipes versus Shrinkflation

There is not much I can add to how annoying it is when product sizes are made incrementally smaller. It epitomizes the quietly dishonest, business school philosophy that margins can be improved by shrinking a product’s size while holding the price steady. In this era of high-inflation, shrinkflation is also being used to disguise the inflationary increase in price per unit, since each unit is now smaller. But no one is being fooled, as more units must now be bought to get the same volume as before, which also means more packaging, with all the costs and waste involved in that.

For heirloom recipes, shrinkflation is especially frustrating. My wife is a punctual, organized person for whom recipes are not suggestions, they are a precise roadmap. She has a few cherished recipes for side dishes that are an important part of our holiday meals. But these recipes also date back to before MBAs shrank the ingredients. So, we end up buying more of each component ingredient to ensure there is enough, which must give the business school graduates a big smile. They successfully turned a two-can purchase of corn into a three can purchase, with some accompanying waste.

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How Many Sodas in a 12-Pack?

Related…

My wife is a fan of a soft drink named Zevia.

Over the years, the large multipack had shrinkflated from a 12-pack to a 10-pack, and then to an 8-pack, all before the latest round of Bidenflation. But Zevia can’t shrink the multi-pack any further now, since they already sell 6-packs, so instead, they have gone full circle, bringing back a 12-pack as the large multi-pack. I’d like to see more of this. Maybe one day a can of vegetables will be 16 ounces again, and a box of tissues won’t get wiped out by one sneezy day.

A “pound” of coffee has been steadily decreasing from 16 ounces over the years. Maybe when a “pound” of coffee is reduced to 8 ounces, a “double pack” of coffee at 16 oz per package will be re-introduced.

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The “Floz” as a Unit of Measurement

Speaking of ounces, many recipes refer to a volume of liquid in terms of “fl. oz.” I’m certainly not the only person who refers to the unit of measurement as a “floz,” am I? If my wife and I are cooking and the recipe calls for a cup of milk, then I tell her it requires eight “flozzes” of milk.

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Un-Sweet Potatoes

In my half-century-plus on this planet, I somehow still find that there are foods that I was always “wrong” about, and one of them is sweet potatoes. I spent most of my life thinking I didn’t like sweet potatoes, probably because my early exposure to them was canned, candied yams that were served at holidays. While I have always had a sweet tooth, I generally don’t care for sugary sweet stuff on my plate while I’m eating my savory entrée and sides.

Only in the past few years did I finally try sweet potato fries and baked sweet potatoes with nothing sugary added to them. Absolutely delicious! Who knew?

But – I’m still hesitant to order sweet potato fries at a restaurant, because too often they add cinnamon and sugar to them.

Do y’all prefer savory sweet potatoes or candied sweet potatoes?

Are any of you like me in seeking to keep savory and sweet from mingling on the dinner plate?

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Cornbread and Syrup

But…if something sweet is supposed to be the main course, somehow that is different. “Breakfast for supper” that prominently features pancakes and waffles is always a treat.

When I was a child, my father would occasionally prepare a Sunday night dinner for us kids of cornbread and syrup. When he was a child during the Depression and WWII, that was a common meal served to him and his sister by my grandparents as they juggled money and wartime rations.

When my father served it to us, it was a nostalgic meal for him, and a treat for us kids. Now that I think about it, I’m overdue to have cornbread and syrup for supper.

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Johnny Cakes & Syrup

Author Brandon Meeks, known on Twitter/X as “Shelby Foote Appreciator,” and a caretaker of southern culture, recently had a tweet about making the poor man’s delicacy, “hot water cornbread.” I wasn’t sure what that was, so a little internet searching revealed that “hot water cornbread” is another name for hoe cakes, or johnny cakes, which is fried cornmeal flatbread. It is frequently served with butter and syrup, like a pancake.

Making a little “hot water cornbread” for supper. A Southern bread so cheap the poorest among us can afford it, and so good you’d pay real money to eat it. pic.twitter.com/ugFuudoEBN
— Shelby Foote Appreciator⚓️ (@NoJesuitTricks) November 18, 2024

I realize now that the cornbread and syrup of my grandparents was actually a midwestern variation of hoe cakes.

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Internet Recipe Essays

So, I decided to look up a recipe for johnny cakes, and I was re-exposed to one of the most bizarre and irritating things on the internet…the recipe essay.

You click a link to a recipe for a dish you wish to cook, and then it starts with a description of the dish, followed by ads, followed by a history of the dish, followed by more ads, followed by more paragraphs discussing the pleasures of cooking, which seasons of the year this dish is associated with, where the component ingredients come from, etc. Trying to get to the list of ingredients and how to prepare them becomes a quest.

I understand putting some ads in the website, but what is the purpose for the interminable essay that must be plowed through to get to a recipe?

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Smoked Bologna Redux

The previous time that Mr. CBD called me up from ~~the bullpen~~ the concession stand to fill in on a Food Thread, I discussed the East Tennessee delicacy of smoked bologna, which I hadn’t yet tried.

Well, I’ve tried it several times now, including in my new favorite breakfast biscuit: Smoked bologna with egg and cheese on a biscuit. It’s fantastic! I wish I had taken a picture of it, as the thick circle of bologna had a black exterior ring from the smoke, leaving no doubt that this was not a mere slice of Oscar Meyer cold cuts.

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Leftovers

I once had a co-worker who would bring leftover-turkey gumbo into the office the week after Thanksgiving…always a treat.

As you enjoy your Thanksgiving leftovers, please feel free to share in the comments some of the creative things you are doing with your leftovers.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 04:00 PM

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1 Pizza when I get home

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 04:01 PM (P8VPt)

2 If I see another plate of turkey, dressing and potatoes, I may go postal.

Tonight we are having salad with grilled blackened chicken.

Posted by: Piper at December 01, 2024 04:03 PM (pZEOD)

3 I am ALSO a Shelby Foote appreciator.
I read his Civil War narrative once a year.

I also like Sweet Potatoes, savory and candied. It's one of the few 'good' starches I can eat on this South Beach Diet....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:04 PM (xcxpd)

4 Hi Skip! Hope you are well. I am decorating the tree, round one of the ribbon application has begun.

Posted by: Piper at December 01, 2024 04:04 PM (pZEOD)

5 I understand putting some ads in the website, but what is the purpose for the interminable essay that must be plowed through to get to a recipe?

Exactly what you think. The longer the reader is on a site, and the more potential clicks there are, the more money the site makes.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 01, 2024 04:04 PM (xCA6C)

6 Since CBD is away, if you haven't seen the jenga that MisHum posted to start yesterday's Coffee and Prayer Thread, you should take advantage of this opportunity to go look at it, worry-of-repercussions-free.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 04:06 PM (a3Q+t)

7 Cornbread, syrup, and beans. A meal of champions!

Brings back memories of being a kid.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:06 PM (VNX3d)

8 2 If I see another plate of turkey, dressing and potatoes, I may go postal.

Tonight we are having salad with grilled blackened chicken.
Posted by: Piper at December 01, 2024 04:03 PM (pZEOD)

I loved it all. We finished everything this morning (the last of yesterday's Thanksgiving soup), so now it's beef time for me (need the iron push, after 4 days of no red meat).

So, homemade burgers, fries, roasted garlic asparagus (b/c no one bought this T-day week, so it was CHEAP), and diced pineapple and blueberries.

And I made lemon thyme cookies for dessert. 1st Christmas cookie, b/c the fresh herb mix was SO heavy on thyme. They are REALLY good (tea cookie like, vs sugar bomb type)...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:07 PM (exHjb)

9 Wife rolls out her cornbread dough and calls it festival.

Posted by: Accomac at December 01, 2024 04:08 PM (IG7T0)

10 I have two packages of Walmart bologna. No idea how to smoke it but I will see what I can do. Frying is a close second, with a little slice here and there.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:08 PM (xcxpd)

11 I didn't overeat at all this year. Haven't even had pie yet.

Still gained 2 lbs.

Posted by: jsg at December 01, 2024 04:09 PM (7kKPC)

12 I have a new fridge, which I keep in my unheated garage. The thermostat is in the refrigerator part of the unit.

Well, it got cold outside, lower than 40 degrees but higher than 32. Since it's colder than 40, the fridge thermostat never trips, so all the food in the freezer thawed out, including a sack of frozen peas.

It's literally too cold outside to freeze food in the fridge. I put the peas in my chest freezer, but you know that's going to be a mess later when all the peas freeze into one block. Bogus!

Of course this should have gone in the FWP thread, but I only just now got here, and this is about food, so here ya go. At least it's not a crossover between pets and guns.

Posted by: Bombadil at December 01, 2024 04:09 PM (MX0bI)

13 Thanks buck!

Tonight is Ma Po Tofu with jasmine rice

We just had cold Hoisin Turkey Noodles bowls for lunch.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:09 PM (RIvkX)

14 Turkey enchiladas with green chilis and Monterey Jack cheese.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 04:09 PM (HmAPM)

15 There's a guy on YT who does cooking videos with a scientific approach based on measurement instead of chef lore. Sometimes it works out for the chef lore, but more often it doesn't. The guy seems to have a physics background, which I find useful in understanding why things work the way they do.

He does have some stuff to flog, especially a VERY expensive digital thermometer with a bunch of calculating power behind it, but it's still well worth your while.

Here's an example, although I probably should have left this for next seek, so as to mock CBD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_sN1n1_ZJo&t=7s

Posted by: Archimedes at December 01, 2024 04:10 PM (xCA6C)

16 In Oklahoma the liquor stores sell beer in 4 packs—but at a six pack price. Go figure.

Posted by: rocdoctom at December 01, 2024 04:11 PM (y2Dxa)

17 Tomorrow I'm making boiled dinner with my leftover ham. I bought a head of cabbage special. There is snow outside. Winter seems to have set in, so the perfect meal.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2024 04:11 PM (0Htd1)

18 Mrs. F. has made johnnycakes but not deep-fried, they are pan fried like a pancake.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:12 PM (RIvkX)

19 What did you people do to CBD?!

Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 04:12 PM (fghTy)

20 And I made lemon thyme cookies for dessert. 1st Christmas cookie, b/c the fresh herb mix was SO heavy on thyme. They are REALLY good (tea cookie like, vs sugar bomb type)...
Posted by: Nova Local at December

I love that mix. I add rosemary to the cranberry sauce for this reason, it really gives it a spark. But even there, I am over it for awhile! 🤣

Posted by: Piper at December 01, 2024 04:12 PM (pZEOD)

21 Scored some orange tag 25% off stew meat at sams yesterday. Made 7 pint jars of stew meat in the pressure canner this morning.

I look for those orange tags at Sams every time I go and sometimes we luck out.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 01, 2024 04:12 PM (Rcnd3)

22 People raved about my turkey.

Just saying.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:13 PM (RIvkX)

23 Via New England.com

In 2010 Yankee celebrated its 75th anniversary with a special issue that included “How New England Are You?” (a roundup of 75 New England “musts” compiled by senior editor Ian Aldrich), and one thing on the list was what Ian referred to as “Debate the Cakes.” I’ll share it in his words here:

Rhode Islanders have come to blows over jonnycakes for any number of reasons–over how they originated (Indians vs. settlers), over how to spell the name (journey-cake vs. Johnny cake vs. Jonny cake vs. johnnycake vs. jonnycake), over which kind of corn to grind for jonnycake meal (whitecap flint vs. white dent), and even over how to grind that corn (hot and round vs. flat and cool). Of course the most heated arguments occur over the “correct” way to make them: Debates about the merits of South County (West Bay)-style (thick, made with boiling water) vs. Newport County (East Bay)-style (thin, made with cold milk) have even reached the Rhode Island legislature. It’s enough to work up a healthy appetite.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 01, 2024 04:13 PM (TGPs7)

24 20 And I made lemon thyme cookies for dessert. 1st Christmas cookie, b/c the fresh herb mix was SO heavy on thyme. They are REALLY good (tea cookie like, vs sugar bomb type)...
Posted by: Nova Local at December

I love that mix. I add rosemary to the cranberry sauce for this reason, it really gives it a spark. But even there, I am over it for awhile! 🤣
Posted by: Piper at December 01, 2024 04:12 PM (pZEOD)

Yeah, my kid wanted to use the leftover thyme in her homemade bread tomorrow. I said not to worry - we had so much, I could make the cookies, she can make the bread, and we'll still have enough thyme for about 4 more recipes...

And I do love herbs and fruit - I may have to try cran rosemary!

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:14 PM (exHjb)

25 22 People raved about my turkey.

Just saying.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:13 PM (RIvkX)

But did they eat 3 plates of it? That's the true sign of total love!

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:15 PM (exHjb)

26 Turkey enchiladas with green chilis and Monterey Jack cheese.
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at December 01, 2024 04:09 PM (HmAPM)
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Those sound great and will never appear on my plate. Sadz.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:15 PM (RIvkX)

27 In love and Johnny-Cakes, you definitely want hot and round rather than flat and cool...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 01, 2024 04:15 PM (TGPs7)

28
I, for one, rejoice over the coming ban of corn syrup and the revival of cane sugar.

This makes the reconquista of Cuba necessary.

Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 04:17 PM (j4U/Z)

29 People raved about my turkey.

Just saying.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:13 PM (RIvkX)

But did they eat 3 plates of it? That's the true sign of total love!
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:15 PM (exHjb)

Alternatively, was anything left? If they stopped at 2 plates, because it was gone, that's another good sign.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:18 PM (VNX3d)

30 My late mother would make candied yams for Thanksgiving. They were made from real sweet potatoes (yes, I know the yam and the sweet potato are different vegetables, but we used the words interchangeably), cooked in her big cast-iron skillet with lots of butter and brown sugar. Delicious! And yes, they complemented the turkey, potatoe, cranberry, and dressing very nicely. Since Mom passed on, I've not tasted anything close to those candied yams.

Posted by: Nemo at December 01, 2024 04:18 PM (S6ArX)

31 28
I, for one, rejoice over the coming ban of corn syrup and the revival of cane sugar.

This makes the reconquista of Cuba necessary.
Posted by: Auspex at December 01, 2024 04:17 PM (j4U/Z)

Honestly, if the USA FINALLY invades Cuba, everyone wins.

Apart from the dead.

And maybe them too, theologically.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:18 PM (xcxpd)

32 But did they eat 3 plates of it? That's the true sign of total love!
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:15 PM (exHjb)
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There were three Australians for whom turkey is alien food, and they had three plates. There was very little left. Enough for two turkey noodle bowls only.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:19 PM (RIvkX)

33 27 In love and Johnny-Cakes, you definitely want hot and round rather than flat and cool...
Posted by: Mister Ghost at December 01, 2024 04:15 PM (TGPs7)

Speaking of Cuban girls in Miami...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:19 PM (xcxpd)

34 How high's the pancake stack, mama?
2 cakes high and rising.

How high's the pancake stack, mama?
3 cakes high and rising.

How high's the pancake stack, mama?
4 cakes high and rising.

How high's the pancake stack, mama?
5 cakes high and rising.

Posted By: Johnny Cash

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:19 PM (VNX3d)

35 Probably the greatest shrinkflation sin is bacon. Buyer beware: a package of bacon may not necessarily be that good 'ol pound of bacon. No...it could be 12 ozs.

I found a good sale on bacon, and I swore I looked at the package before buying it, and thought it was 16 ozs. Nope, when I went to cook it, it was 12 ozs. WTF.

Shrinkflation combined with not putting on the cheaters at the store equals trouble.

Posted by: haffhowershower at December 01, 2024 04:20 PM (NMT5x)

36 19 What did you people do to CBD?!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 04:12 PM (fghTy)

Got him drunk?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:22 PM (xcxpd)

37 Mrs. F. says it was because it was fresh not a frozen bird.

Nonsense, I said.

*displays magic fingers*

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:22 PM (RIvkX)

38 35 Probably the greatest shrinkflation sin is bacon. Buyer beware: a package of bacon may not necessarily be that good 'ol pound of bacon. No...it could be 12 ozs.

I found a good sale on bacon, and I swore I looked at the package before buying it, and thought it was 16 ozs. Nope, when I went to cook it, it was 12 ozs. WTF.

Shrinkflation combined with not putting on the cheaters at the store equals trouble.
Posted by: haffhowershower at December 01, 2024 04:20 PM (NMT5x)

This issue is exactly why most of my groceries come from Costco nowadays.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:23 PM (xcxpd)

39 Probably the greatest shrinkflation sin is bacon. Buyer beware: a package of bacon may not necessarily be that good 'ol pound of bacon. No...it could be 12 ozs.

I found a good sale on bacon, and I swore I looked at the package before buying it, and thought it was 16 ozs. Nope, when I went to cook it, it was 12 ozs. WTF.

Shrinkflation combined with not putting on the cheaters at the store equals trouble.
Posted by: haffhowershower at December 01, 2024 04:20 PM (NMT5x)

I recently saw someone else commenting on bacon. They said that, if the package wasn't resealable, it was a single-serving package. True or False?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:23 PM (VNX3d)

40 What a coinky-dink! A food thread, and I am eating food. In this case, a bowl of instant ramen augmented by a can of flaked ham. Good belly-warmer after a couple of hours spent out in the cold. But the '08 Suburban is now in the shop, and on the hoist, and the bay door is closed, and my 4000 watt fan heater is blowing tepid air in its general direction.

Posted by: Hints from Heloise at December 01, 2024 04:23 PM (AR7ba)

41 Another multi talented COB.

Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at December 01, 2024 04:24 PM (kTd/k)

42 Do y’all prefer savory sweet potatoes or candied sweet potatoes?

I don't prefer anything "candied"...

That said, I like sweet potatoes completely savory, and I like sweet potatoes with a little added sweetness.

Actually, I think the only way to ruin them is to add so much sugar, you don't have sweet potatoes anymore, but just sugar...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:26 PM (exHjb)

43 Shrinkflation in boxed mixes is ridiculous. I have pancake mixes from two years ago and it's down from 20 oz to 16 oz. Cake mixes are like paperback size now.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 01, 2024 04:27 PM (kpS4V)

44 Are any of you like me in seeking to keep savory and sweet from mingling on the dinner plate?
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Oh, absolutely YES!

Even at breakfast-- anything with syrup goes on a separate plate. No sticky-sweet on the salty stuff!

Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2024 04:27 PM (YoCnN)

45 That cornbread looks wonderful. Perfect fare along with a bowl of soup for the winter weather.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 01, 2024 04:27 PM (wQVHD)

46 35 Probably the greatest shrinkflation sin is bacon. Buyer beware: a package of bacon may not necessarily be that good 'ol pound of bacon. No...it could be 12 ozs.
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Commie bastards!

Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 04:28 PM (41CYW)

47 Are any of you like me in seeking to keep savory and sweet from mingling on the dinner plate?
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What about glazed bacon?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Dm8we)

48 What did you people do to CBD?!
Posted by: Weasel at December 01, 2024 04:12 PM

It was the comment drubbing that the GT laid on the FT last week, obviously.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 04:29 PM (a3Q+t)

49 Do y’all prefer savory sweet potatoes or candied sweet potatoes?

I don't prefer anything "candied"...

That said, I like sweet potatoes completely savory, and I like sweet potatoes with a little added sweetness.

Actually, I think the only way to ruin them is to add so much sugar, you don't have sweet potatoes anymore, but just sugar...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:26 PM (exHjb)

I've had sweet potatoes multiple ways, including covered with marshmallows (my Dad's favorite), and have only found one way that I like. Thin sliced, and baked, with perhaps a touch of salt. Even better is mixed with regular potatoes prepared the same way.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:29 PM (VNX3d)

50 Still serving thanksgiving plates with all the fixins, but starting tomorrow it's turkey curry, then maybe pesto turkey over pasta, then turkey pot pie.

I mixed the leftover mashed (real) sweet potatoes into a box of Dolly's biscuit mix and put it in the fridge for tomorrow.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 01, 2024 04:30 PM (kpS4V)

51 Thanks buck!

Tonight is Ma Po Tofu with jasmine rice

We just had cold Hoisin Turkey Noodles bowls for lunch.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 04:09 PM (RIvkX)

Good stuff! Back in the day, used to eat at a Chinese restaurant in Vancouver's Chinatown, called the Ho Inn. They had "Mar Pol Tofu" on the menu. We figured it was a local specialty from the south Vancouver neighborhood of that name (Marpole). Was a long time before I saw the spelling you used here. Mr. Ho took a shine to us, and would come seat himself at our table, and pour us each a shot from his little stainless steel teapot, which was filled with Scotch. Good times. RIP, Mr. Ho.

Posted by: Hints from Heloise at December 01, 2024 04:30 PM (AR7ba)

52 My folks loved leftover cornbread crumbled up in milk and eaten with a spoon as a snack.

Posted by: huerfano at December 01, 2024 04:30 PM (DKIGo)

53 oops, off Heloise sock

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 04:30 PM (AR7ba)

54 See my chili peppers in the mini greenhouse didn't survive with these below freezing temperatures.
Next year have to fine more mild peppers, this year's were very hot.

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 04:31 PM (fwDg9)

55 What about glazed bacon?
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If bacon could be ruined, that's the way to do it. Would *grudgingly* eat it, though.

Because BACON.

Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2024 04:31 PM (YoCnN)

56 Are any of you like me in seeking to keep savory and sweet from mingling on the dinner plate?
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Mostly, but I do like salted, chocolate caramel.

Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 04:32 PM (41CYW)

57 You know what? No jokes or shame...but the McDonald's Big Breakfast is not a bad meal. It's like $6 here, unless you get a discount via the mobile app, but it's not bad for fast food breakfast.....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:32 PM (xcxpd)

58 Cornbread goes good with all the following. Cane syrup, molasses, honey for the sweet part. Buttermilk or unsalted real butter for the dairy part. If not for a fancy dessert, collard greens, pinto beans, fatback, stewed tomatoes and okra. For spicy chili (no carrots). Cornbread, cause Granny said so.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 04:32 PM (LHPAg)

59 I've had sweet potatoes multiple ways, including covered with marshmallows (my Dad's favorite), and have only found one way that I like. Thin sliced, and baked, with perhaps a touch of salt. Even better is mixed with regular potatoes prepared the same way.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:29 PM (VNX3d)

In lent, try them in chili with black beans...
Or try them Mexican style - something like this (I don't follow recipes, but when I want a change up from just roasted - https://www.easypeasyfoodie.com /mexican-roasted-sweet-potato-cubes/

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:32 PM (exHjb)

60 I loved sweet potatoes. One of my favorite things to do is bake one, stuff it with pulled pork, and top with white onions and pickles.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 04:33 PM (4Af9R)

61 Shrinkflation is real. Local Food Lion used to ( 1 year ago) sell chicken wings in a 14-pack (28 wing pieces), and now, for same price, only 11 wings in pack, same total price. Sneaky. Except they use the same styrofoam tray, so it's evident at a glance.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 01, 2024 04:33 PM (YaCT3)

62 I also use sweet potatoes as the crust for quiche.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 04:34 PM (4Af9R)

63 What about glazed bacon?
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If bacon could be ruined, that's the way to do it. Would *grudgingly* eat it, though.

Because BACON.
Posted by: JQ
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Restaurant nearby does glazed bacon with a peanut butter dipping sauce. It's great.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 01, 2024 04:34 PM (Dm8we)

64 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:29 PM (VNX3d)

In lent, try them in chili with black beans...
Or try them Mexican style - something like this (I don't follow recipes, but when I want a change up from just roasted - https://www.easypeasyfoodie.com /mexican-roasted-sweet-potato-cubes/
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:32 PM (exHjb)

I don't get them often. My siblings dogs tend to get priority for sweet potatoes, and I'm outnumbered.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:34 PM (VNX3d)

65 Had a bangup Thanksgiving with the wife's family in North Dallas. That and hit the Lavendou french restaurant as well. But we both caught some sort of cold virus and now we're back in the Knoxville area.

If everyone here in East Tennessee catches Captain Trips, well, you can blame my wife and me.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 01, 2024 04:34 PM (/HDaX)

66 Is it too early to ponder Christmas dinner? I'm thinking Beef Wellington.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 01, 2024 04:35 PM (kpS4V)

67 My folks loved leftover cornbread crumbled up in milk and eaten with a spoon as a snack.

Same, but I add honey and butter.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 04:35 PM (4Af9R)

68 64 Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:29 PM (VNX3d)

In lent, try them in chili with black beans...
Or try them Mexican style - something like this (I don't follow recipes, but when I want a change up from just roasted - https://www.easypeasyfoodie.com /mexican-roasted-sweet-potato-cubes/
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:32 PM (exHjb)

I don't get them often. My siblings dogs tend to get priority for sweet potatoes, and I'm outnumbered.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:34 PM (VNX3d)

Fresh ones are cheap at Aldi's all year (at least in 2024) - under $1/lb (you get 3 lbs) pretty much in all of 2024...it's a nice fiber filled side...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:36 PM (exHjb)

69 Fresh ones are cheap at Aldi's all year (at least in 2024) - under $1/lb (you get 3 lbs) pretty much in all of 2024...it's a nice fiber filled side...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:36 PM (exHjb)

Wheelchairs and ovens/stoves (at least mine) don't mix well. It's one more reason to get out of it.

That, and notsogood's idea at @60 sounds interesting as well.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:37 PM (VNX3d)

70 That, and ~~notsogood~~ nogooddeed's idea at @60 sounds interesting as well.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:37 PM (VNX3d)

Sorry for the mix-up! My bad!

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:38 PM (VNX3d)

71 52 My folks loved leftover cornbread crumbled up in milk and eaten with a spoon as a snack.
Posted by: huerfano

Sounds like something left over from the Depression. My dad would eat saltine crackers like that. I guess they couldn't afford cereal when he was a kid.

Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2024 04:38 PM (0Htd1)

72 Restaurant nearby does glazed bacon with a peanut butter dipping sauce. It's great.
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*screams*
Horrors!
*faints*

Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2024 04:40 PM (YoCnN)

73 Eris, I'm making jambalaya and crawfish cornbread for Christmas. It's our standard fare.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 04:40 PM (4Af9R)

74 We do sweet potato oven fries occasionally. Rosemary, garlic, and salt. Not too shabby.

Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 04:40 PM (41CYW)

75 Shrinkflation is real. Local Food Lion used to ( 1 year ago) sell chicken wings in a 14-pack (28 wing pieces), and now, for same price, only 11 wings in pack, same total price. Sneaky. Except they use the same styrofoam tray, so it's evident at a glance.

Posted by: goatexchange at December 01, 2024 04:33 PM

Green mountain K cup coffee did the same. Used to be 12 K cups in the box now there are only 10 and it is the same price.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at December 01, 2024 04:41 PM (Rcnd3)

76 Hot interchange on a separate long-range shooting forum but hands down it better be Steen's drenching that butter-soaked corn bread.

https://tinyurl.com/yeyw7w2e

Posted by: Billy the Mountain at December 01, 2024 04:41 PM (B5hL3)

77 Cornbread and honey. Normal.
Cornbread and syrup. Suspect

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 04:41 PM (W/lyH)

78 No good deed, that sounds delish!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 01, 2024 04:42 PM (kpS4V)

79 I enjoy a savory sweet potato washed, unpeeled but with holes poked in it, rubbed in butter or oil, then sprinkled with SPG (salt-pepper-granulated garlic mixture) and placed on the grill or in the smoker until soft.

Posted by: Dagwood at December 01, 2024 04:42 PM (CC0N1)

80 I have a bag of johnnycake mix from the Lodge outlet store in Sevierville. Planning to be lazy with at least part of it by pairing it with a can of Wendy's chili.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 01, 2024 04:44 PM (/HDaX)

81 72 Restaurant nearby does glazed bacon with a peanut butter dipping sauce. It's great.
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*screams*
Horrors!
*faints*
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2024 04:40 PM (YoCnN)

*picks up JQ*
*Picks up JQ's wallet*

*Goes to get bacon and peanutbutter combo*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:44 PM (xcxpd)

82 My 2 quarts of ice cream is now 1.5 quarts but they made up for it by increasing the price.

Umpqua ice cream (best in the world BTW) used to be $3.99 for a 2 quart container about 6 years ago. Biden took over and they printed $18,000,000,000,000,000,000 to pay for 3 ecar charging stations and all of the sudden the price skyrockets to $7.50. Before that the price was stable for 20+ years. Then they shrunk the container from 2 quarts down to 1.5 quarts and the price remains at $7.50.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 01, 2024 04:44 PM (KJ3hR)

83 Spouse was complaining no food was on sale this week (he did a stop at Aldi's for me all alone). I told him it never is the week after Thanksgiving b/c all stores know your fridge is pretty empty once leftovers are gone and you'll be willing to pay anything to have food again.

So, light shops this week while we wait for the Wednesday sales flyers...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:44 PM (exHjb)

84 Yum!

Posted by: m at December 01, 2024 04:45 PM (VnUSN)

85 At a family get-together last year, wife and I bought a handful of different sweet potato varieties and baked them in foil on the Traiger. They were so good. Some had a finer texture, some were sweeter than others. I forget which one I liked the best, but it wasn't the sweetest. Until then I didn't really care about them.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:45 PM (SSBCb)

86 Oh, man, Steen's on smoked boudin is the bee's knees.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 04:45 PM (4Af9R)

87 66 Is it too early to ponder Christmas dinner? I'm thinking Beef Wellington.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 01, 2024 04:35 PM (kpS4V)

Those are a lot of work, but good on you if you can pull it off.

My aim is pannenkoeken in Minn.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:46 PM (xcxpd)

88 I'm old enough to remember when ice cream was routinely sold in half-gallon bricks..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 04:46 PM (Cbio9)

89 Sounds like something left over from the Depression. My dad would eat saltine crackers like that. I guess they couldn't afford cereal when he was a kid.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 01, 2024 04:38 PM
Depression is a thing commies love, for the little people to be government dependents. FDR my ass.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 04:46 PM (LHPAg)

90 If we are still pitching sweet potatoes, they also make a great mash. Since they are wetter and stringier than potatoes, you just need the fat, salt, and seasoning to mash them - you don't need the milk/liquid for that mash...

A cinnamon ginger mash is good...a sage mash is good...just salt and pepper mash is good...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:50 PM (exHjb)

91 Was in the grocery store and saw a rack of St. Louis ribs on sale because tomorrow is the sell by date. I couldn't resist. They're in the oven now.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 01, 2024 04:50 PM (dg+HA)

92 A Christmas Taste Treat...

https://tinyurl.com/2bnmebvn

Posted by: davidt at December 01, 2024 04:51 PM (i0F8b)

93 35 Probably the greatest shrinkflation sin is bacon. Buyer beware: a package of bacon may not necessarily be that good 'ol pound of bacon. No...it could be 12 ozs.

I found a good sale on bacon, and I swore I looked at the package before buying it, and thought it was 16 ozs. Nope, when I went to cook it, it was 12 ozs. WTF.

Shrinkflation combined with not putting on the cheaters at the store equals trouble.
Posted by: haffhowershower at December 01, 2024 04:20 PM (NMT5x)

How many here are aware that Stella Artois is sold in 11 oz cans and bottles? Been that way for years now. Damn shame because it used to be one of my go-to imports..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (Cbio9)

94 Umpqua ice cream (best in the world BTW)

True. But can't afford it. So I grab Tillamook.

Avoid Kroger ice cream unless you have constipation.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (W/lyH)

95 A Christmas Taste Treat...

Oof.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (/HDaX)

96 91 Was in the grocery store and saw a rack of St. Louis ribs on sale because tomorrow is the sell by date. I couldn't resist. They're in the oven now.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 01, 2024 04:50 PM (dg+HA)

I do that quite a bit myself. Cook it right away and it's okay.
Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (SSBCb)

97 How many here are aware that Stella Artois is sold in 11 oz cans and bottles? Been that way for years now. Damn shame because it used to be one of my go-to imports..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (Cbio9)

I've never seen bourbon in 11 oz cans....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:54 PM (xcxpd)

98 Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (SSBCb)

Dude...that's not good. Whatever you're doing...stop it.

Sorry to hear that

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:54 PM (xcxpd)

99 Yes! The "recipe essay!"

The worst development of the internet...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2024 04:55 PM (F8hJk)

100 If we are still pitching sweet potatoes, they also make a great mash. Since they are wetter and stringier than potatoes, you just need the fat, salt, and seasoning to mash them - you don't need the milk/liquid for that mash...

A cinnamon ginger mash is good...a sage mash is good...just salt and pepper mash is good...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:50 PM (exHjb)
***

I wouldn't say no to some Kentucky mash.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 04:55 PM (W/lyH)

101 100 If we are still pitching sweet potatoes, they also make a great mash. Since they are wetter and stringier than potatoes, you just need the fat, salt, and seasoning to mash them - you don't need the milk/liquid for that mash...

A cinnamon ginger mash is good...a sage mash is good...just salt and pepper mash is good...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:50 PM (exHjb)
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I wouldn't say no to some Kentucky mash.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 04:55 PM (W/lyH)

In my younger years, I have added bourbon to the mash...spouse loved those...that was a prekid thing...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:58 PM (exHjb)

102 Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (SSBCb)

Dude...that's not good. Whatever you're doing...stop it.

Sorry to hear that
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:54 PM (xcxpd)

Jim, if you're single, you should ask if you could take a good nurse home with you for a few weeks, to make sure you don't need to return. Pretty would be a bonus.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:59 PM (VNX3d)

103 Restaurant nearby does glazed bacon with a peanut butter dipping sauce. It's great.
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*screams*
Horrors!
*faints*
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2024 04:40 PM (YoCnN)

*picks up JQ*
*Picks up JQ's wallet*

*Goes to get bacon and peanutbutter combo*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:44 PM (xcxpd)
***

I saw the whole thing officer! Two dudes grabbed his Subway sammich and ran off.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 04:59 PM (W/lyH)

104 On your phone, scrolling through the recipe essay while swatting down pop-ads. I hate it. *jumps to recipe

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 04:59 PM (4Af9R)

105 nogooddeed is here !!!! Jumps up and down and waves

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:00 PM (gGMRM)

106 98 Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (SSBCb)

Dude...that's not good. Whatever you're doing...stop it.

Sorry to hear that
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 04:54 PM (xcxpd)

My body is just not cooperating. NPO right now, so reading about these dishes...I can smell that cornbread frying right now.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (SSBCb)

107 Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (SSBCb)
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Very sorry to hear this so back on the list you go.

Remember this is the hospital's fault and they should be giving you red-carpet treatment including choice of pudding.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (RIvkX)

108 I had some ham in the fridge. I also have cans of pumpkin-pie and cranberries.

The hobby thread was yesterday but here's my latest miniatures.

https://x.com/BourbnChicken/status/
1863317762157727919

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (lhenN)

109 Jim, if you're single, you should ask if you could take a good nurse home with you for a few weeks, to make sure you don't need to return. Pretty would be a bonus.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:59 PM (VNX3d)

Taking a turn for the nurse?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (AR7ba)

110 If youre NPO the pudding will have to wait

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (RIvkX)

111
A cinnamon ginger mash is good...a sage mash is good...just salt and pepper mash is good...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:50 PM (exHjb)

Hope your Thanksgiving was good!!! I love plain mashed sweet potatoes - the yam, a little margarine and salt and pepper. My daughter can't eat regular potatoes, but has no issues with sweet potatoes, so this is her preferred side, and it is wonderful with either roast chicken or turkey. I never thought to put sage in it - I will have to try it!

Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:02 PM (wLjpr)

112 Sweet Potato Pie!!

Back in the day the black ladies would have a couple of tables set up at the Famous Ballroom during the Left Coast Jazz Society concerts. I tell you there's nothing better in a pie tin then one of those pies they had set out.

You could get a piece and take it to the table or get a whole pie to go (if it was lucky to live that long) which was what I did every time I went after I got turned on to them.

My friends would actually get mad if they found out I'd been to the Famous and not shared any pie with them.

Posted by: pawn, RIP Vic at December 01, 2024 05:02 PM (QB+5g)

113 Howdy, Ben Had! It's been a while.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 05:02 PM (4Af9R)

114 Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (SSBCb)

Damn it Jim. We're Hordemates, not doctors!
(But we're full of medical advice)

Praying for ya Jim.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 05:02 PM (W/lyH)

115 107 Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 04:53 PM (SSBCb)
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Very sorry to hear this so back on the list you go.

Remember this is the hospital's fault and they should be giving you red-carpet treatment including choice of pudding.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (RIvkX)

Flaming with a 💀?

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:03 PM (SSBCb)

116 jim, I'm so sorry. Praying for your complete recovery. Did the hospital kitchen at least mold the jello in a turkey mold?

Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:04 PM (wLjpr)

117 The “recipe essay” is aimed at women. Yes, it’s primarily designed to sell ads. But most women actually like a whole bunch of bullshit before the punchline.

It’s the same with watching sports. Most men, including me, don’t give a flying fuck about the boring “human interest” stories behind the athletes or the drone-ish recitals of their background or goals or whatever. Just show me the action and STFU. But women actually like all this bullshit.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 01, 2024 05:04 PM (FAgve)

118 My MiL made Beef Wellington once that was very memorable. Especially the mushroom filling.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 05:05 PM (RIvkX)

119 I saw the whole thing officer! Two dudes grabbed his Subway sammich and ran off.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 04:59 PM (W/lyH)

This is MAGA country!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo, food, water at December 01, 2024 05:06 PM (xcxpd)

120 Just show me the action and STFU. But women actually like all this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 01, 2024

I don't like it -maybe because I don't watch football except when I am at bar and they have games on

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 01, 2024 05:07 PM (E9NL4)

121 100 If we are still pitching sweet potatoes, they also make a great mash. Since they are wetter and stringier than potatoes, you just need the fat, salt, and seasoning to mash them - you don't need the milk/liquid for that mash...

A cinnamon ginger mash is good...a sage mash is good...just salt and pepper mash is good...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 04:50 PM (exHjb)

Sweet potatoes are usually white fleshed and have a fine, starchy texture. Yams are orange and tend to be sweeter. Little prefers them in the usual marshmallow-topped casserole, but I often just bake and top them with a butter and a handful of marshmallows, finishing them in the toaster oven to brown up said marshmallows.

I did sweet potatoes with my turkey this year and thought they paired better with the rest of the meal. Not as sweet and didn't need cinnamon or other flavors that were going to be in the pie anyway.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:07 PM (Cbio9)

122 I got the BBQ guy here to do 5lbs of smoked bologna for MoMe appetizer night one year.. It was a big hit.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:07 PM (gGMRM)

123 Pro-tip: cranberries go great with roast squash or yams

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 05:07 PM (RIvkX)

124 110 If youre NPO the pudding will have to wait
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (RIvkX)

And water. I'm getting IVs of fluids, so I'm not thirsty. Hold up is interventional radiation. My drain line from my abscess isn't draining and the goo is coming out at the insertion site. I can even hear it sometimes, but they're the only ones that can do it.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:08 PM (SSBCb)

125 But women actually like all this bullshit.

A great many of us hate it with the fire of a thousand suns.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 05:08 PM (4Af9R)

126 Several years ago we tossed some sweet potatoes on the smoker because they happened to be on the counter. Turned out to be one of my best decisions. About 4 hours depending on the size. Skin gets black and papery, insides are close to being carmalized and they don't need butter, sugar, cinnamon or anything but a fork

Posted by: Stacy0311 at December 01, 2024 05:08 PM (/2zKG)

127 A “pound” of coffee has been steadily decreasing from 16 ounces over the years. Maybe when a “pound” of coffee is reduced to 8 ounces, a “double pack” of coffee at 16 oz per package will be re-introduced.

wait until the chocolate ration is increased

Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2024 05:08 PM (D7oie)

128 Hope your Thanksgiving was good!!! I love plain mashed sweet potatoes - the yam, a little margarine and salt and pepper. My daughter can't eat regular potatoes, but has no issues with sweet potatoes, so this is her preferred side, and it is wonderful with either roast chicken or turkey. I never thought to put sage in it - I will have to try it!
Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:02 PM (wLjpr)

Ours was great! I hope yours was, too...

As I mentioned on the FWP thread, my oven waited to completely fall apart til Friday morning, so someone Above was watching out for me (or my spouse, b/c I had told him for weeks we needed a new oven). I already got it delivered today and it's great...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 05:08 PM (exHjb)

129 My MiL made Beef Wellington once that was very memorable. Especially the mushroom filling.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 05:05 PM (RIvkX)

Only ever had Beef Wellington once, at a formal dinner at the Officers Club in Germany. Back in the late 70's. Made by an Army cook working P/T at the club. OMG!!! Delicious!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 05:09 PM (W/lyH)

130 Then again I'm in the hospital for the 5th time in just over a month...
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)
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Dang, Jim. Hope you get this figured out soon. Not the place to be signing up for the volume discount. Get healthy.

Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 05:09 PM (41CYW)

131 Are any of you like me in seeking to keep savory and sweet from mingling on the dinner plate?

Here. And I'll eat a baked sweet potato, but none of that icky sweet casserole business.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 01, 2024 05:09 PM (OX9vb)

132 I did pan fried turkey breasts the day after Thanksgiving. Still trying to figure out the drip rate to IV the gravy.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:09 PM (gGMRM)

133 116 jim, I'm so sorry. Praying for your complete recovery. Did the hospital kitchen at least mold the jello in a turkey mold?
Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:04 PM (wLjpr)

I was actually out of the hospital beginning of the week, but came back early am

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:10 PM (SSBCb)

134 Well, time to go out and brave the cold again. This time, I think I will layer up with lined jeans, sweatshirt and jacket. I will be in the closed shop with the heater blowing on me. Outdoors is bitter right now, as it is about 5 degrees F, with a breeze.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 01, 2024 05:10 PM (AR7ba)

135 If you are Christmas cookie bakers, I recommend Rose Levy Beranbaum's Christmas Cookie Cookbook. It's beautiful, and the recipes are excellent. I've made most of them, and they have all turned out delicious. (I have not made the gingerbread Notre Dame, but it is a better representation of that noted edifice than the rebuild they just did.)

Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:11 PM (wLjpr)

136 including choice of pudding.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Now that is just mean, teasing Jim while he is NPO!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 01, 2024 05:12 PM (VE/4w)

137 117 The “recipe essay” is aimed at women. Yes, it’s primarily designed to sell ads. But most women actually like a whole bunch of bullshit before the punchline.

It’s the same with watching sports. Most men, including me, don’t give a flying fuck about the boring “human interest” stories behind the athletes or the drone-ish recitals of their background or goals or whatever. Just show me the action and STFU. But women actually like all this bullshit.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 01, 2024 05:04 PM (FAgve)
Agreed, I know football, don’t need some sports ‘journalist’ to explain what I just saw. No sound for me. But I only watch college football, no pro. No bastitbaw in over 40 years. Baseball only whim. Will watch college softball if doing nothing else, like when I’m at work or something.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:13 PM (LHPAg)

138 9-hour smoked brisket yesterday. Came out very good but didn’t nail it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 01, 2024 05:13 PM (FAgve)

139 Bread pudding made with challah bread is on the docket for tomorrow.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:14 PM (gGMRM)

140 I'm making carne adovada and the sauce was a little bitter, so I added a tablespoon of vinegar and of honey. Now, it's just right.

Posted by: huerfano at December 01, 2024 05:15 PM (DKIGo)

141 139 Bread pudding made with challah bread is on the docket for tomorrow.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:14 PM (gGMRM)

With or without raisins?

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:15 PM (SSBCb)

142 jim, with raisins.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:16 PM (gGMRM)

143 9-hour smoked brisket yesterday. Came out very good but didn’t nail it.
Posted by: Elric Blade
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Yum.

Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 05:17 PM (41CYW)

144 142 jim, with raisins.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:16 PM (gGMRM)

Excellent.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:17 PM (SSBCb)

145 I love sweet potatoes but I add nothing to them except butter.
No brown sugar, no marshmallows.
Gotta keep an eye on that H1AC...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 01, 2024 05:17 PM (MeG8a)

146 I saw recently that a cupcake/muffin mix at the grocery stated that it would yield eleven...

Didn't notice if new muffin tins now are made to hold eleven, or if they have the normal twelve.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 01, 2024 05:17 PM (1A4bE)

147 >>> 60 I loved sweet potatoes. One of my favorite things to do is bake one, stuff it with pulled pork, and top with white onions and pickles.
Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 04:33 PM (4Af9R)

Ooooh, I am stealing this!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:18 PM (KcwUg)

148 Bread pudding is no match for a spotted dick--Don Lemon

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:18 PM (SSBCb)

149 117 The “recipe essay” is aimed at women. Yes, it’s primarily designed to sell ads. But most women actually like a whole bunch of bullshit before the punchline.

No, not really. Those infernal "influencers" maybe, but normal women and actual cooks want the recipe and perhaps a video of the steps for preparing the dish (helpful if you are a visual learner.) The essay is annoying and gets in the way.

Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:18 PM (wLjpr)

150 106 My body is just not cooperating. NPO right now, so reading about these dishes...I can smell that cornbread frying right now.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:01 PM (SSBCb)

NPO = “nothing by mouth,” from the Latin nil per os. The acronym is simply a doctor's shorthand for a period of time in which you may not eat or drink anything.

Posted by: m at December 01, 2024 05:19 PM (VnUSN)

151 I recently saw someone else commenting on bacon. They said that, if the package wasn't resealable, it was a single-serving package. True or False?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:23 PM (VNX3d)

I buy the pound package of ends and pieces. It doesn't seal, but it is a collection of very thin, very thick, and odd small pieces vacuum sealed into a brick, so I can sort it out into ziplock bags for "cook" "seasoning" and "cook out for grease for the potatoes"

Did I mention it comes as a pound?

Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2024 05:19 PM (D7oie)

152 Sweet potatoes sliced and baked or baked and served with butter salt and pepper.
Yum.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 01, 2024 05:19 PM (VE/4w)

153 alas, just finished the garlic-and-dill potato salad I made on Thursday; the leftovers got better and better every day!
Time to make another batch, I guess ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at December 01, 2024 05:20 PM (gY0JQ)

154
I was actually out of the hospital beginning of the week, but came back early am

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:10 PM (SSBCb)
Hugs to you - praying this clears up and you can get home asap!

Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:20 PM (wLjpr)

155 AZdeplorable, a raised glass to you and the better half.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (gGMRM)

156 Turning into the 12 Days of Turkey here. Got a late invite for Thanksgiving, and despite my protests, took home leftovers. Did my turkey yesterday. Allegedly 11.75 pounds. More on that later.

Anyhow, had another Thanksgiving dinner that could not be beat. Turkey with giblet gravy, sweets, White Castle stuffing, and brussel sprouts with bacon. Consumed a drumstick and the left side of the breast. Today, its the other side of the breast, maybe one or both wings. Got a nice riesling to wash it all down. Tomorrow, turkey sammiches. It's gonna be turkeys all the way down this week..

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (Cbio9)

157 I’m pretty sure the recipe essays aren’t written by humans. They’re literally just automated clickbait. Trust the recipe accordingly.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (GI8iw)

158 Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia)

Have been there and going back early next year.
Till then not being shy about eating!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (zpbCU)

159 If you are Christmas cookie bakers, I recommend Rose Levy Beranbaum's Christmas Cookie Cookbook. It's beautiful, and the recipes are excellent. I've made most of them, and they have all turned out delicious. (I have not made the gingerbread Notre Dame, but it is a better representation of that noted edifice than the rebuild they just did.)
Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:11 PM

Mrs. D-Thrax gives this recommendation two thumbs-up.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (a3Q+t)

160 AZdeplorable, a raised glass to you and the better half.
Posted by: Ben Had

Raises glass in Ben Had's direction and takes hearty sip.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 01, 2024 05:22 PM (VE/4w)

161 I had turkey and dressing, then reheated turkey and dressing, then turkey pot pie, then turkey aka king. Just about out of turkey.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 01, 2024 05:23 PM (1A4bE)

162
Mrs. D-Thrax gives this recommendation two thumbs-up.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (a3Q+t)

Yeah! I've made those cookies for 32 years. The Peanut Butter cookies with either ganache or jelly garnish are sooo good! So are the sugar cookies and the macadamia chocolate cookies!!

Posted by: Moki at December 01, 2024 05:23 PM (wLjpr)

163 151 I recently saw someone else commenting on bacon. They said that, if the package wasn't resealable, it was a single-serving package. True or False?
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 04:23 PM (VNX3d)

I buy the pound package of ends and pieces. It doesn't seal, but it is a collection of very thin, very thick, and odd small pieces vacuum sealed into a brick, so I can sort it out into ziplock bags for "cook" "seasoning" and "cook out for grease for the potatoes"

Did I mention it comes as a pound?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 01, 2024 05:19 PM (D7oie)

I'll cook a pound or two at once. The kids gobble up the bacon and the grease I use for cooking my beans when I refry them. Win/win.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:24 PM (SSBCb)

164 6 Since CBD is away
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 01, 2024 04:06 PM (a3Q+t)

Um.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 01, 2024 04:55 PM (F8hJk)

Posted by: m at December 01, 2024 05:24 PM (VnUSN)

165 Moki, a belated Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:24 PM (gGMRM)

166 Grilled sweet potatoes once, they were good

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 05:24 PM (fwDg9)

167 Tomorrow, turkey sammiches. It's gonna be turkeys all the way down this week..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (Cbio9)

Mrs D announced she is "turkeyed out.". Turkey dinner. Reheated turkey dinner. Turkey lunch. Turkey sammiches.
I'm off to get pizza in a bit.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 05:25 PM (W/lyH)

168 I remember we had a Christmas cookie food thread a few years back...it was wonderful. Like 400 comments...lots of people's recipes and memories.

Posted by: skywch at December 01, 2024 05:25 PM (uqhmb)

169 I would not turn down some almond biscotti if offered.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:27 PM (gGMRM)

170 167 Tomorrow, turkey sammiches. It's gonna be turkeys all the way down this week..
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:21 PM (Cbio9)

Mrs D announced she is "turkeyed out.". Turkey dinner. Reheated turkey dinner. Turkey lunch. Turkey sammiches.
I'm off to get pizza in a bit.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 05:25 PM (W/lyH)

We did an HMart shop yesterday b/c my kids were jonesing for Asian food - we have pad thai (not sure chicken, shrimp, or tofu or a combination yet), korean pork stir fry, and an Indian curry (using whatever protein does NOT go in the pad thai) lined up for our Monday, Tuesday, and Wednedsay dinners...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 05:28 PM (exHjb)

171 I used some turkey yesterday for pot pie (innards really, I cook it in a skillet and don't use pie crust). I'm going to freeze the remainder in 8-10 oz (not fl) portions and will use it over the next several weeks mostly in place of chicken, but I like the soup recipe in TDG.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:29 PM (KcwUg)

172 Food related:

I've applied to lead the next USDA-HHS Dietary Guidelines for Americans. 🧵

How does this process work? Let me explain (what I know): First, the USDA Secy must be nominated. After that, some combo of this person and the USDA transition team decide on appointments. Mine would not require a Presidential nomination or Senate review. I don't aim to be high-level.

I just want to bring evidence to a process devoid of it for the past 45 years. ...more at link
_Nina Teicholz, PhD @bigfatsurprise

Nina, we are grateful for your willingness to serve in this role. 🇺🇸
_Nicole Shanahan @NicoleShanahan

https://tinyurl.com/yck94x7t

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 01, 2024 05:31 PM (g1bu+)

173 Turkey burger. Ground turkey, cranberries, jalapenos and pepperjack cheese hunks.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:31 PM (gGMRM)

174 A Louisiana dish I learned to like is couche couche. It's crumbled up corn bread mixed with milk and sweetened with corn syrup. The reason I learned to like it is because I originally was served it by an old Cajun lady who used milk that was on the verge of being sour. I guess that's how they made it before refrigeration.

Posted by: Ghost of Raymond Massey at December 01, 2024 05:32 PM (9mIGc)

175 Of yesterday's sock

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 05:32 PM (9mIGc)

176 So that 11.75 lb turkey...by my calculations, it should have taken about 4 hours at 325. After three hours I went to pull the vegetables (carrots, celery and onions), and found the bird perfectly done. Stuffing still needed another thirty minutes, so I let the turkey rest while I made the gravy.

Meantime, I'm questioning whether I got an honest weight on that bird. A sixty minute variance on the cook time can't easily be attributed to the oven being off. So how else can anyone tell whether they're being shorted on their purchase, other than weighing it after you have it home, thawed, and drained?

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:34 PM (Cbio9)

177 I contend there is never enough left over Turkey.

It seems it is all gone when I'm in the mood for a Turkey on white with Mayo.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 05:35 PM (9mIGc)

178 174 A Louisiana dish I learned to like is couche couche. It's crumbled up corn bread mixed with milk and sweetened with corn syrup. The reason I learned to like it is because I originally was served it by an old Cajun lady who used milk that was on the verge of being sour. I guess that's how they made it before refrigeration.
Posted by: Ghost of Raymond Massey at December 01, 2024 05:32 PM (9mIGc)
Clabber milk.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:35 PM (LHPAg)

179 176 So that 11.75 lb turkey...by my calculations, it should have taken about 4 hours at 325. After three hours I went to pull the vegetables (carrots, celery and onions), and found the bird perfectly done. Stuffing still needed another thirty minutes, so I let the turkey rest while I made the gravy.

Meantime, I'm questioning whether I got an honest weight on that bird. A sixty minute variance on the cook time can't easily be attributed to the oven being off. So how else can anyone tell whether they're being shorted on their purchase, other than weighing it after you have it home, thawed, and drained?
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:34 PM (Cbio9)

Grocery store birds, especially if you don't stuff them, are always done wildly early...I always check mine a full hour before the minimum time. This year, it needed 10 minutes after that check. If you follow the wrapper directions, you get terrible dry and overdone turkey. It might be to convince you to not get the free one next year...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 05:36 PM (exHjb)

180 I went to look for Steen's a found they sell their products online, and this includes coffee mugs and such:
https://www.steenssyrup.com
/shop
I'm a little surprised I haven't seen it locally, so now I will be looking out for it.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:36 PM (KcwUg)

181 So how else can anyone tell whether they're being shorted on their purchase, other than weighing it after you have it home, thawed, and drained?
Posted by: Joe Kidd
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I guess you could ask them to weigh it at the butcher counter? Or see if produce section has a scale?

Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2024 05:38 PM (YoCnN)

182 I made beef and homemade noodles for the Mr. this afternoon. Sourdough going in the oven now for me.

I think my diet this week is going to consist of light soups, bread and salad. Feeling a bit overfed right now.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at December 01, 2024 05:38 PM (OX9vb)

183 169 I would not turn down some almond biscotti if offered.
Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:27 PM (gGMRM)

I usually make amaretto biscotti for Christmas. Could send you some...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:38 PM (Cbio9)

184 Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:35 PM (LHPAg)

Thanks. The more you know.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 05:39 PM (9mIGc)

185 Joe Kidd, I will reciprocate with some new crop pecans and a bottle of pecan oil.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:40 PM (gGMRM)

186 180 I went to look for Steen's a found they sell their products online, and this includes coffee mugs and such:
https://www.steenssyrup.com
/shop
I'm a little surprised I haven't seen it locally, so now I will be looking out for it.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:36 PM (KcwUg)
You do know there's a Syrup Festival in Henderson each year, in the fall I think.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:40 PM (LHPAg)

187 Yay! Food Thread!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 01, 2024 05:41 PM (Wnv9h)

188 RMBS, there you are!!

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:41 PM (gGMRM)

189 >>> 186
==
You do know there's a Syrup Festival in Henderson each year, in the fall I think.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:40 PM (LHPAg)

I did not know that! I'll have to check it out. I'm looking for local 'whatever' festivals next year.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:42 PM (KcwUg)

190 RMBS, there you are!!
Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:41 PM

Helping the mom with Christmas decorations has delayed my Food Thread commentary.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 01, 2024 05:42 PM (Wnv9h)

191 >>> 190
==
Helping the mom with Christmas decorations has delayed my Food Thread commentary.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 01, 2024 05:42 PM (Wnv9h)

Tell her we all said Hi.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:43 PM (KcwUg)

192 Tell her we all said Hi.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:43 PM

Will do!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 01, 2024 05:44 PM (Wnv9h)

193 Helena Handbasket, seconded. What a lovely lady.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:44 PM (gGMRM)

194 I'm jonesing for some beer battered fish right now and there are no longer any Long John Silvers any where near me or any regular restaurant that serves it.

Who can I blame for that?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 05:45 PM (9mIGc)

195 We're with you Diogenes, had pizza for dinner last night!

Posted by: Grateful - the range bag lady at December 01, 2024 05:46 PM (IQ6Gq)

196 Perhaps OT, but adjacent.

I've been looking for software products I might build and sell, to make money. Is there any market for recipe management software - an electronic cookbook? If it also offers the ability to select a set of recipes, and generate a shopping list from the ingredients? The ability to print recipes? To define a file format to share them online with other people using the same software?

I seem to remember software like that for the Apple II, but I don't think I've seen something similar in the last decade or so.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf - Remember Vic and VNN! at December 01, 2024 05:47 PM (VNX3d)

197 I did not know that! I'll have to check it out. I'm looking for local 'whatever' festivals next year.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:42 PM (KcwUg
November 2025. We can probably do this.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:47 PM (LHPAg)

198 Grateful, anchovies or no?

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:47 PM (gGMRM)

199 Is it too early to ponder Christmas dinner? I'm thinking Beef Wellington.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at December 01, 2024 04:35 PM (kpS4V)

I give this idea a Triple Yes!!!

Last year, after eating a Beef Wellington at Gordon Ramsay's place, I decided not only could I make it but I thought I could do better.

So, I made one for Thanksgiving that was delicious, better than Gordo's, and yet I thought I could do better. Plus, one of the kiddos couldn't make it home for TG, but could for Christmas and after hearing everyone raving about the BW insist I make another for Christmas.

I found what sounded. like a better recipe to me and it turned out super-delicious, better than the TG BW.

My points are these:
1) Beef Wellington is labor intensive but actually pretty easy to make.
2) Everyone will be super impressed and hail you as a bona fide Cooking Genius
3) Find a recipe that sounds good to you, because there are some variations out there that sounded suspect to me.
4) It's always time for Beef Wellington
5) Make a yummy Beef Wellington that would make Gordon Ramsay cry with shame that you beat him at his own game.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 05:49 PM (eDfFs)

200 176 So that 11.75 lb turkey...by my calculations, it should have taken about 4 hours at 325. After three hours I went to pull the vegetables (carrots, celery and onions), and found the bird perfectly done. Stuffing still needed another thirty minutes, so I let the turkey rest while I made the gravy.

Meantime, I'm questioning whether I got an honest weight on that bird. A sixty minute variance on the cook time can't easily be attributed to the oven being off. So how else can anyone tell whether they're being shorted on their purchase, other than weighing it after you have it home, thawed, and drained?
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 05:34 PM (Cbio9)

Was it spatchcocked?

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:50 PM (SSBCb)

201 Rancherbob, makes a Beef Wellington to die for.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:50 PM (gGMRM)

202 Some of the major food companies are currently balancing on the edge of a knife. An example would be the pasta companies (San Giorgio etc). In steep economic times they will cut the pasta just a fraction shorter. So, in bulk there is a significant decrease in product. And yet...and yet...have they changed the Net Weight on the packaging (required by law)? The standard packaging will say 16 Oz. (1 lb.) 454 grams.

So the question is...if you can physically see the shortening of pasta noodles, and the package seems less heavy...what leeway does a corporation get in displayed Net Weight? Does it have to be exact before they get hammered by a massive Class Action Suit, and financial penalties from the Dept. of Weights and Measures?

Posted by: Orson at December 01, 2024 05:51 PM (dIske)

203 My points are these:
1) Beef Wellington is labor intensive but actually pretty easy to make.
2) Everyone will be super impressed and hail you as a bona fide Cooking Genius
3) Find a recipe that sounds good to you, because there are some variations out there that sounded suspect to me.
4) It's always time for Beef Wellington
5) Make a yummy Beef Wellington that would make Gordon Ramsay cry with shame that you beat him at his own game.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 05:49 PM (eDfFs)
You never hear of Beef Napoleon, do you.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:52 PM (LHPAg)

204 I’m certainly not the only person who refers to the unit of measurement as a “floz,” am I?

Yes, sorry. Weirdo.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Add one tubsp of sugar at December 01, 2024 05:52 PM (e0p6D)

205 I've seen nerds manage recipes with a spreadsheet program and there may even be some templates.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 01, 2024 05:54 PM (MeG8a)

206 Eromero, Napoleons are for dessert.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:54 PM (gGMRM)

207 Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 05:49 PM (eDfFs)

Do you wrap the beef in prosciutto or ham product?

I took out a Jewish girl for Valentines when I lived in NYC and thought I had impressed her with the Beef Wellington they had on their Valentine dinner.

I'm from Louisiana. Had no idea it was made with ham. It said beef !

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 05:55 PM (9mIGc)

208 202 Some of the major food companies are currently balancing on the edge of a knife. An example would be the pasta companies (San Giorgio etc). In steep economic times they will cut the pasta just a fraction shorter. So, in bulk there is a significant decrease in product. And yet...and yet...have they changed the Net Weight on the packaging (required by law)? The standard packaging will say 16 Oz. (1 lb.) 454 grams.

So the question is...if you can physically see the shortening of pasta noodles, and the package seems less heavy...what leeway does a corporation get in displayed Net Weight? Does it have to be exact before they get hammered by a massive Class Action Suit, and financial penalties from the Dept. of Weights and Measures?
Posted by: Orson at December 01, 2024 05:51 PM (dIske)

Make sure the pasta is not quite dry when packaged?

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 05:55 PM (SSBCb)

209 Buy Skinner Pasta. He is a Moron in good standing.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 05:57 PM (gGMRM)

210 Do you wrap the beef in prosciutto ~~or ham product~~?

Yes.

I'm of the More Flavor Is More Better School of Cooking.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 05:57 PM (eDfFs)

211 I'm jonesing for some beer battered fish right now and there are no longer any Long John Silvers any where near me or any regular restaurant that serves it.

Who can I blame for that?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
_________

Got a Culver's near? Hands down best beer battered fish at a chain.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 01, 2024 05:58 PM (Dm8we)

212 I guess you could ask them to weigh it at the butcher counter? Or see if produce section has a scale?
Posted by: JQ at December 01, 2024 05:38 PM (YoCnN)

You raise an important point. This was a frozen bird, and I'm assuming the total weight did not include the water that it was packed in. A fresh turkey does not include the added water, so probably weighs more honestly.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 06:00 PM (Cbio9)

213 Got a Culver's near? Hands down best beer battered fish at a chain.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 01, 2024 05:58 PM (Dm8we)

Not nearby unfortunately. They are all at least 45 minutes away.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 06:00 PM (9mIGc)

214 >>> 197 I did not know that! I'll have to check it out. I'm looking for local 'whatever' festivals next year.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 05:42 PM (KcwUg

November 2025. We can probably do this.
Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 05:47 PM (LHPAg)

Nice! There's a different one very near my house, but their timing is unfortunate.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 01, 2024 06:00 PM (KcwUg)

215 We be has the Gay Prode Day parade twoday selerbrate AIDS Awarenesst Day. It was be a grate success and everyones loved it. Also we be sold over 50 "We hate Trump" Shirts wicth will goes to help fight Globil Warming.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro,Vt at December 01, 2024 06:01 PM (o8DkU)

216 I remember we had a Christmas cookie food thread a few years back...it was wonderful. Like 400 comments...lots of people's recipes and memories.
Posted by: skywch at December 01, 2024 05:25 PM (uqhmb)
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Here it is! I bookmarked it. It was in the first year of the plague.

https://tinyurl.com/3pvbupjt

Posted by: bluebell at December 01, 2024 06:03 PM (79pEw)

217 President Trump is live with Tuck
https://www.youtube.com

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:03 PM (fwDg9)

218 211 I'm jonesing for some beer battered fish right now and there are no longer any Long John Silvers any where near me or any regular restaurant that serves it.

Who can I blame for that?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth
_________

Got a Culver's near? Hands down best beer battered fish at a chain.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 01, 2024 05:58 PM (Dm8we)

There's a KFC/Long John's close to where my wife, MIL, and FIL are buried. MIL loved their chicken, wife loved their fish. I'll do the Chinese thing and place some of that before their Graves with some tequila.
Afterwards I take it home.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 06:04 PM (SSBCb)

219 Eromero, how did I not know about the Syrup festival? Hell, I've been to the Duck festival in Gueydan.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 06:04 PM (4Af9R)

220 Thank you, bluebell!!

Posted by: skywch at December 01, 2024 06:05 PM (uqhmb)

221 Buck, I agree about sweet potatoes. I loathe the candied casserole drowning in sugar. But I finally learned that actual sweet potatoes are really good, and make excellent fries.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, punching the iPad screen like a chimp at December 01, 2024 06:06 PM (Ad8y9)

222 Okay, getting tired. Time to put on the O2 and take a nap.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 06:07 PM (SSBCb)

223 everyone says floz! just pronouncing it like it's written, simple!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at December 01, 2024 06:08 PM (gY0JQ)

224 I happen to make a killer pecan pie, Ben Had...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 06:08 PM (Cbio9)

225 The old Southern-raised dermatologist that trained me (and generations more) practiced during the Depression. Corn meal is a poor source of niacin, so he saw lots of pellagra (niacin deficiency-Dermatitis, Diarrhea, Dementia, and Death). I saw one case in 40 + years, with zinc and vitamin deficiency. Substituted alcohol for almost all calories, no lime in the spirits.

Posted by: Lester Fahrner at December 01, 2024 06:08 PM (dFw9b)

226 Thanksgiving we had plain sweet potatoes, I detest the sugared up kind

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:09 PM (fwDg9)

227 no lime in the spirits.

Oh, whew, I'm good then.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 06:09 PM (4Af9R)

228 Eromero, how did I not know about the Syrup festival? Hell, I've been to the Duck festival in Gueydan.
Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 06:04 PM (4Af9R)

Basile has the Swine festival I used to go to every year .

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at December 01, 2024 06:10 PM (9mIGc)

229 Nogooddeed! How the heck are you? Great to see you.

Posted by: bluebell at December 01, 2024 06:10 PM (79pEw)

230 wrap the beef in prosciutto

Is that what the kids are calling it now?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 01, 2024 06:12 PM (xWaIL)

231 210 Do you wrap the beef in prosciutto or ham product?

Yes.

I'm of the More Flavor Is More Better School of Cooking.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 05:57 PM (eDfFs)

Guess I've only had "unofficial" beef Wellington. Friend of mine makes a great one, using crescent roll dough for the exterior. No other meat than beef. Fine eating...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 06:13 PM (Cbio9)

232 Howdy, bluebell! I'm fantastic. No snow in South Texas. How are you?!

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 06:13 PM (4Af9R)

233 Howdy, bluebell! I'm fantastic. No snow in South Texas. How are you?!
Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 06:13 PM (4Af9R)
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I'm good! No snow here, just flurries for a bit, but it's cold. We miss you at the NoVaMoMes but I know you're happy to be where you are, and I'm happy for you.

Posted by: bluebell at December 01, 2024 06:17 PM (79pEw)

234 Joe Kidd, mushrooms and asparagus sauteed in pecan oil are a revelation.

Posted by: Ben Had at December 01, 2024 06:17 PM (gGMRM)

235 Do you wrap the beef in prosciutto or ham product?

Yes.

I'm of the More Flavor Is More Better School of Cooking.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 05:57 PM (eDfFs)

Guess I've only had "unofficial" beef Wellington. Friend of mine makes a great one, using crescent roll dough for the exterior. No other meat than beef. Fine eating...
Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 06:13 PM (Cbio9)

Well, you know, you should eat what you like.

Doesn't matter at all what somebody else likes.

See Steaks: Rare-------------------------Well Done.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 06:19 PM (eDfFs)

236 I'm gonna make it out your way again sometime.

Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 06:24 PM (4Af9R)

237 Not a purist by any means, Naturalfake. Never came across a preparation that called for pork, although I seem to recall a recipe that replaced the bread crust with bacon...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 06:27 PM (Cbio9)

238 There is no meat other than beef in Beef Wellington. It is wrapped in pastry crust and mushroom pate. At least I didn't taste any...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 06:29 PM (RIvkX)

239 238 There is no meat other than beef in Beef Wellington. It is wrapped in pastry crust and mushroom pate. At least I didn't taste any...
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 06:29 PM (RIvkX)

There is actually always an extra meat wrap (usually proscuitto) in a wellington. It's to keep some moisture from the puff pastry (this is the layer against the pastry), so it cooks correctly...

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 06:33 PM (exHjb)

240 10 and 11 Oz coffee packs. $11
I usually buy the bulk from dispensing bins into 16oz bags at $9 #

Posted by: torabora at December 01, 2024 06:33 PM (8teb/)

241 Pizza was very good, my pizza stone has to be over 30 years

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:33 PM (fwDg9)

242 225 The old Southern-raised dermatologist that trained me (and generations more) practiced during the Depression. Corn meal is a poor source of niacin, so he saw lots of pellagra (niacin deficiency-Dermatitis, Diarrhea, Dementia, and Death). I saw one case in 40 + years, with zinc and vitamin deficiency. Substituted alcohol for almost all calories, no lime in the spirits.
Posted by: Lester Fahrner at December 01, 2024 06:08 PM (dFw9b)
My people come mostly from the East coast N.C., S.C., and Georgia where folks eat a lot of beans and rice. Coincidentally they drink some degree of alcohol, but not with limes.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 06:34 PM (LHPAg)

243 239 238 There is no meat other than beef in Beef Wellington. It is wrapped in pastry crust and mushroom pate. At least I didn't taste any...
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 06:29 PM (RIvkX)

There is actually always an extra meat wrap (usually proscuitto) in a wellington. It's to keep some moisture from the puff pastry (this is the layer against the pastry), so it cooks correctly...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 06:33 PM (exHjb)

Food thread version of long bows versus cross bows...

Posted by: Joe Kidd at December 01, 2024 06:37 PM (Cbio9)

244 There is actually always an extra meat wrap (usually proscuitto) in a wellington. It's to keep some moisture from the puff pastry (this is the layer against the pastry), so it cooks correctly...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 06:33 PM (exHjb)
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I am a purist. This kind of ruins it for me.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 06:39 PM (RIvkX)

245 "The “Floz” as a Unit of Measurement"

Our family uses a 'glug' as in, two glugs of olive oil.

It seems to be limited to olive oil though.

When have plenty of Grammi and Nonna's recipes that call for 'Bake until done' in a hot oven.

We've pretty well figured those ones out. Mostly. But not always. Sometimes.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 06:40 PM (WXNFJ)

246 I'm gonna make it out your way again sometime.
Posted by: nogooddeed at December 01, 2024 06:24 PM (4Af9R)
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Good! You know how to reach me.

Posted by: bluebell at December 01, 2024 06:41 PM (79pEw)

247 There is actually always an extra meat wrap (usually proscuitto) in a wellington. It's to keep some moisture from the puff pastry (this is the layer against the pastry), so it cooks correctly...
Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 06:33 PM (exHjb)
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I am a purist. This kind of ruins it for me.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 06:39 PM (RIvkX)

The original recipe(s) also include foie gras.

Which I highly recommend. Makes the dish insanely rich and takes it to a whole new level.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 06:41 PM (eDfFs)

248 I found I can get 25 Nonni Biscotti from Amazon in chocolate almond and salted caramel, individually wrapped. I do need to make some but these will do for now

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 01, 2024 06:42 PM (gfViB)

249 The original recipe(s) also include foie gras. ...

Posted by: naturalfake at December 01, 2024 06:41 PM (eDfFs)
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I withdraw my objection.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 01, 2024 06:44 PM (RIvkX)

250 We've pretty well figured those ones out. Mostly. But not always. Sometimes.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 06:40 PM (WXNFJ)
I asked this lady for directions to her farm.
Mrs. Jones, you live on County Road 44 towards the schoolhouse?
Yes.
Which side of the road?
This side.

Posted by: Eromero at December 01, 2024 06:45 PM (LHPAg)

251 Our family uses a 'glug' as in, two glugs of olive oil.

It seems to be limited to olive oil though
***

That's my standard measure for making blended margaritas. 3-1 glug ratio on the tequila and triple sec

Posted by: Diogenes at December 01, 2024 06:45 PM (oh9qJ)

252 I've never had foie gras.

Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 06:48 PM (41CYW)

253 Pretty sure never had Beef Wellington, not a big fan of mushrooms but will eat them, there better composted.

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:48 PM (fwDg9)

254 scampydog never had that either

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:49 PM (fwDg9)

255 252 I've never had foie gras.
Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 06:48 PM (41CYW)

It honestly ranks in the top 10 of all time food experiences I've had.

Posted by: Nova Local at December 01, 2024 06:49 PM (exHjb)

256 I've never had foie gras.
Posted by: scampydog

This just isn't chopped liver!

Two of my kids will not eat fried squid.

But Calamari? No problem.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 01, 2024 06:50 PM (WXNFJ)

257 Sweet potatoes are an abomination. The end.

Posted by: Archer at December 01, 2024 06:52 PM (IDphi)

258 Pretty soon, the 16 oz. can of tomatoes will be all the way down to 8 oz., and you can just buy two of them for your recipe (and, as you said, throw out 2 empty cans instead of 1).

Posted by: DavidD at December 01, 2024 06:53 PM (MSTeU)

259 never had that either
Posted by: Skip
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I've not had Tartare either. Did try Carpaccio.

Posted by: scampydog at December 01, 2024 06:55 PM (41CYW)

260 My food is pretty boring I guess

Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:56 PM (fwDg9)

261 260 My food is pretty boring I guess
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:56 PM (fwDg9)

Depends on the context.
See, I can't eat anything right now, so even chicken broth would be luxurious.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 06:58 PM (SSBCb)

262 I've never had foie gras.

Pate like it's 1999!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 01, 2024 06:59 PM (xWaIL)

263 261 260 My food is pretty boring I guess
Posted by: Skip at December 01, 2024 06:56 PM (fwDg9)

Depends on the context.
See, I can't eat anything right now, so even chicken broth would be luxurious.
Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 06:58 PM (SSBCb)

Had hotdogs, no buns or bread. What did I do? Stick it in a tortilla with cheddar cheese. Tell me if that doesn't sound fancy
LOL.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 07:01 PM (SSBCb)

264 even chicken broth would be luxurious.

Better than a feeling tube in your arm!
Hope you are at least getting decent pain meds.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 01, 2024 07:02 PM (xWaIL)

265 Posted by: Nemo at December 01, 2024 04:18 PM (S6ArX)

That is how I make mine. I learned it from my grandmother. Pairs so well with the rest of a turkey dinner.

Posted by: Ann at December 01, 2024 07:02 PM (4neFu)

266 Noodus gubbus.

Posted by: TRex at December 01, 2024 07:03 PM (IQ6Gq)

267 Sorry, I'm not paying $7+ for 1.5 pints of ice cream. Kroger brand ice cream is pretty good (actually, really good) and it's only $3 for 3 pints.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at December 01, 2024 07:05 PM (XMwZJ)

268 264 even chicken broth would be luxurious.

Better than a feeling tube in your arm!
Hope you are at least getting decent pain meds.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at December 01, 2024 07:02 PM (xWaIL)

...isn't that the dextrose Drip?
I haven't really needed pain meds this time, just some anti--nausea meds. It's a. infection, my belly is swelling up again, but the guys I really need to see have been pushing me off for the last 14 hours.

Posted by: jim (in hospital in Kalifornia) at December 01, 2024 07:06 PM (SSBCb)

269 *sticks a toothpick into the food thread to see if it's done rising*

For thanksgiving leftovers: I have a "crack chicken" or "Hawaiian haystack" style dish simmering in the crock pot, but it's the leftover turkey meat. To make the gravy mix I added some cream of mushroom and celery soups, leftover celery and onions, leftover country gravy, leftover broth. Will pour the turkey gravy mix over cooked rice and broccoli, with leftover stuffing on the side. Also can add cream cheese or leftover ham to the gravy, or have mozzarella or provolone to sprinkle on before eating.

Yesterday I cooked the leftover sweet potatoes, sliced thin and baked, with a little bacon grease and brown sugar to carmelize. Divine.

Posted by: LizLem at December 01, 2024 08:17 PM (wcIbG)

270 Montrose has a Grand Funk sound.

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 01, 2024 10:19 PM (g1bu+)

271 If you want to fix a hoe-cake type variant, flipping a camp stove or Dutch oven lid upside down over coals makes a fine shallow pan for it. This works especially well when camping, cooking over coals or a charcoal fire.

Our sweet potatoes are fixed with a praline recipe we got from a Sugary Sam yam label. It’s brown sugar, chopped pecans, coconut, flour, and melted butter. After mixing the ingredients, they’re lightly packed onto the drained sweet potatoes and baked until crisp. It’s not as sweet as covering them with brown sugar and marshmallows, and it’s very good.

Posted by: Advo at December 01, 2024 10:25 PM (jO4mz)

272 Another thing that works with cornbread: we make a lemon marmalade from Meyer lemons. The sweet, tart, and slightly bitter marmalade complements the cornbread surprisingly well.

Posted by: Advo at December 01, 2024 10:27 PM (jO4mz)

273 U+1F44D

Posted by: Braenyard - some absent friends are more equal than others at December 02, 2024 01:23 AM (g1bu+)

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276 Take a can of sweet potatoes, replace syrup in can with sugar-free pancake syrup, add a half stick of butter, zap in microwave for about 15 minutes until the liquid evaporates. Mash up and serve.

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My humble opinion - Best part of the feast is the aftermath of making soups out of the stock with meat picked from the bones and stuff separated from the stock, as well as leftover platterized (meat served on a platter during the main event, I just made that up so use it freely), and perhaps rice or pasta (orzo, bowties, etc.).

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