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Biden Gives Ukraine the OK to Use Long-Range US Missiles (Using US Targeting Information) To Strike Targets Deep Within Russia;
Putin Announces He Is Changing Russia's Nuke Rules to Allow Using Nukes Against Ukraine
Russia had previous followed a no-first-use doctrine that stated that would not use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear country.
Now that Biden has decided to escalate to Defcon 2 and give Ukraine the OK to use the missiles we're giving them to hit Russian targets deep inside of Russia, Putin has changed the doctrine: Now Russia says it can use nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear country, if that country is using weapons supplied to it by a nuclear country. America, in other words. Biden is hoping Putin, the man he screams is a rogue leader, is just bluffing about dropping a nuke on Ukraine. Hope is not a plan.Putin Lowers Russia's Threshold for Using Nuclear Arms A decree signed by the Russian leader, though long planned, came days after President Biden authorized the use of U.S.-supplied missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia. President Vladimir V. Putin on Tuesday lowered Russia's threshold for the use of nuclear weapons, a long-planned move whose timing appeared designed to show the Kremlin could respond aggressively to Ukrainian strikes on Russian territory with American missiles. The decree signed by Mr. Putin implemented a revised version of Russia's nuclear doctrine that Mr. Putin described in televised remarks in September. But the timing sent a message, coming just two days after the news that President Biden had authorized the use of U.S.-supplied longer-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia. Asked whether Russia could respond with nuclear weapons to such strikes, Dmitri S. Peskov, Mr. Putin's spokesman, repeated the new doctrine's language that Russia "reserves the right" to use such weapons to respond to a conventional-weapons attack that creates a "critical threat" to its "sovereignty and territorial integrity." Russia's Ministry of Defense later announced that Kyiv had used the ballistic missiles known as the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMS, in a pre-dawn attack on an ammunition depot in southwestern Russia. A senior American and a senior Ukrainian official, both of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss ongoing operations, confirmed that the strikes used ATACMS, which have a range of 190 miles, the longest of any munitions the West has given to Ukraine.Biden is escalating dangerously and once again urging Ukraine to risk losing hundreds of thousands of people. Remember, though, it's Trump who's the out-of-control maniac who will bring on World War III. CNN has a problem: It's telling its few remaining viewers that Trump will start World War III, when Russia just announced it might drop nukes on Ukraine owing to Biden's provocations and escalations. How to fix? Simple, downplay the whole "Russia might use nukes" aspect of the story. CNN reports only that Putin is "fine-tuning" his "nuclear doctrine." Fine-tuning it how? CNN doesn't want its braindead zombie cultist viewers to know!
Stay gold, CNN.
Putin fine-tunes Russia's nuclear doctrine after Biden's arms decision on Ukraine, in clear signal to West
Meanwhile, Joe Biden, the world's greatest foreign policy expert as rated by a panel of people named "Joe Biden," has brought so much peace and stability to the world that Sweden is stockpiling food and water in fear of a nuclear attack by Russia.
Sweden is sending out five million pamphlets to residents urging them to prepare for the possibility of war, with instructions on how to stockpile food and even seek shelter during a nuclear attack, as fears grow of a conflict between Russia and NATO. Since the start of the war in Ukraine, Stockholm has repeatedly urged Swedes to prepare both mentally and logistically for a possible conflict, citing the worsening security situation in its vicinity. It comes as tensions between Moscow and the West have escalated to new heights after Joe Biden gave Kyiv the green light to blast targets deep inside Russia with US-supplied long-range missiles, which Donald Trump's son has criticised as making sure 'they get WWIII going before my father has a chance to create peace'. The booklet 'If Crisis or War Comes', sent out by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency (MSB), contains information about how to prepare for emergencies such as war, natural disasters, cyber attacks and terrorism. 'An insecure world requires preparedness. The military threat to Sweden has increased and we must prepare for the worst - an armed attack,' its new introduction states. In one of the more worrying excerpts, which harks back to advice given by governments during the darkest days of the Cold War, it informs people of the risk of nuclear weapons. 'The global security situation increases the risks that nuclear weapons could be used. In the event of an attack with nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, take cover in the same way as in an air attack,' the pamphlet instructs readers. 'Shelter provides the best protection. After a couple of days, the radiation has decreased significantly,' it advises, adding that people will be warned of attacks over the radio and should go to basements or subways if there is no better option. Another message, which has been brought forward from the middle of the booklet in the updated version, reads: 'If Sweden is attacked by another country, we will never give up. All information to the effect that resistance is to cease is false.'
@amuse
@amuse WAR: Biden is Escalating Ukraine War to Protect His Legacy, Risking WWIII. Michael Waltz, the incoming National Security Advisor under President Trump, has accused the Biden regime of deliberately escalating the war in Ukraine to preserve its legacy at the expense of global stability. Speaking on Fox News, Waltz criticized President Biden's secretive decision to allow U.S.-supplied long-range missiles to be used against targets inside Russia--a move Waltz says he was not briefed on, despite daily intelligence updates as part of the transition process. "This is another step up the escalation ladder, and no one knows where this is going," Waltz warned, pointing out that Biden's actions appear to prioritize political optics over diplomacy. "How do we get both sides to the table? To end this war. What's the framework for a deal? And who's sitting at that table? These are the questions I and President Trump are working to answer, but Biden's actions are making that almost impossible." Critics have raised concerns that Biden fears Trump will successfully broker peace in Ukraine, a move that would overshadow Biden's legacy and his failed foreign policy. Waltz echoed this theory, suggesting Biden is willing to risk World War III rather than allow Trump to achieve what he could not. "It's clear Biden doesn't want Trump to inherit a path to peace. Instead, he's doubling down on a war that no one--Biden included--seems to have an endgame for," Waltz said. Waltz also called out the Biden regime's refusal to cooperate with the Trump transition team, describing it as a deliberate attempt to obstruct efforts for a smooth transfer of power during a critical time. He further highlighted the global ramifications of Biden's recklessness, citing rising tensions with North Korea and the broader risk of spiraling instability. "This isn't just about Ukraine; this is about global leadership. Biden's unwillingness to engage with the incoming administration is dangerous and shortsighted," Waltz concluded. The Biden regime's decision to escalate without consultation, combined with its failure to coordinate with Trump's team, raises serious questions about its priorities. Waltz's warnings signal growing fears that Biden's focus on preserving his legacy could lead to catastrophic consequences for the United States and the world. h/t @DavidSacks
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Stateless at November 19, 2024 03:46 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2024 03:46 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Stateless at November 19, 2024 03:47 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 19, 2024 03:47 PM (JQfE3)
Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2024 03:47 PM (NgqoH)
Posted by: DaveA at November 19, 2024 03:48 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2024 03:48 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Stateless at November 19, 2024 03:46 PM (jvJvP)
Ten percent to the big guy, Jack!
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 19, 2024 03:48 PM (FC8SQ)
Posted by: DaisyB at November 19, 2024 03:49 PM (AbL8c)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 19, 2024 03:49 PM (s3qiR)
Posted by: Stateless at November 19, 2024 03:46 PM (jvJvP)
The spice must flow.
Posted by: Tony Blinken at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (NgqoH)
I would argue the Mueller investigation was successful at taking Trump's eye off the ball, this looks like Ver 2.0
Trump has like 18 months to get stuff done, after that, who knows.
Posted by: Leupold at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (4pwAx)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 19, 2024 03:49 PM (s3qiR)
I think of that, and laugh..
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (PCK5/)
I think you're on to something
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (s3qiR)
Posted by: Halfhand at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (4Pq/g)
I'm honestly thinking Biden had nothing to do with this decision as it came out while he was burying his own shit on a beach somewhere.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: DaisyB at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (AbL8c)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (wtvvX)
"A man is a man. A woman is a woman. A man cannot become a woman. Those are facts."
Maybe he felt some heat and decided to come down more forcefully.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (pZ0Mr)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (KcwUg)
It's been so long since any country has used a nuclear weapon in anger that we've forgotten their awesome destructive power.
I suspect Putin will only have to use ONE nuke to make his point.
The question is, WHERE will he decide to make that point? Kyiv? D.C.? Or the middle of nowhere, if only to demonstrate the destructive capability at his command.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (7fElN)
Posted by: mrp at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (rj6Yv)
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (J5RCE)
He's concerned about his foreign policy legacy and trying to open pudding cups.
Posted by: Stateless at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (jvJvP)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (CWTWj)
He is not thinking about any personal legacy. The guy is just marking time in the WH until he leaves, satisfied that Kumala will never sit in the oval office. He's half brain dead anyway.
This long-range missile lunacy is purely the product of the MIC, the usual neocons and war-mongers, and whoever was behind the execrable Kumala campaign. The latter is hateful and spiteful and wants the world to burn before Trump takes over.
Posted by: Elric The Blade at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Halfhand at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (4Pq/g)
Going to be hard to focus on much of anything when nukes are flying around.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (NgqoH)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (WPL6O)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (fwDg9)
Instead, I'm just a NORMAL conspiracy theorist, so I think this is just the deep state trying to start WWIII in order to pressure congress into denying Trump the chance to curtail the excesses of the war machine.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (pZ0Mr)
Posted by: Alteria Pilgram at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (vO42M)
This is peak Ace as rated by a panel of people named Ace.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (ig8VZ)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (fwDg9)
Old and busted: One ping only Vasily.
New hotness: One nuke only Vasily.
Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (NgqoH)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (AAvt3)
Babylon Bee: Democrats start WWIII to prevent Trump from taking office.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Brian Dead, Esq., Non-Binary Cavething Attorney at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (qUkBO)
Posted by: Stateless at November 19, 2024 03:46 PM (jvJvP)
Since TJM isn't around, I'll drop the obligatory "I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Posted by: Doof at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (jgdZo)
He is also adjusting the color and tint!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (wtvvX)
He controls the vertical. HE controls the horizontal.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)
When it's killing babies ....er, sorry, reproductive health
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (ig8VZ)
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The optimist in me is hoping, since Putin is at least a rational actor, that this is grounds for mocking the fecklessness of US gov strikes on Russian territory since they aren't actually going to change Ukraine's losing effort.
"No, it didn't matter. If it mattered, we'd have nuked Kiev."
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (Dnobf)
Biden did this.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (3RZw1)
Posted by: brak at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (NGHTx)
*deletes*
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: BlackOrchid
.......
They got him out. Today he is stuck in the hedge again.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Shenanigans
You mean the Republican base that put him in power didn't like his response that "dignity and respect" means we have to let an obvious dude with a dick into the women's locker room?
Posted by: Leupold at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (4pwAx)
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Ehh, what's the worst that could happen?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (L/fGl)
Swedes;
You wanted: World Peace
You'll settle for: Fallout Shelters
You'll get: Muzzie Rape Bunkers
Posted by: haffhowershower at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (NMT5x)
Now it's the cold war countries switched sides.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (AAvt3)
Biden escalates for a short time until Trump deescalates in January to start a path for peace? Yeah, probably not.
Hoping this is N-Dimensional chess, but given the DNC/Biden modus operandi to this point, I wouldn't be surprised to know the Deep State is dumping as big a turd on the Situation Room carpet as possible for Trump to clean up.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 03:55 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: DaisyB at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (AbL8c)
Well in this case it is Zelensky and the neocons who are pro Ukraine. they played the invasion of Kursk in Russia to boost Biden's chances and it made the bulk of the front in the Donbas collapse like a house of cards. The US resisted but in the past in similar situations the US eventually gave in and let them escalate the situation.
The problem with a puppet state front man they can manipulate you in turn.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 03:55 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2024 03:48 PM (PCK5/)
^^^
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Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2024 03:55 PM (eDfFs)
They're grinding away in the east as they have been for a year, making very slow but steady progress. Nothing has changed in the basic framework: if Russia doesn't change its mind and simply stop, they can achieve their (fairly mundane) objectives and Ukraine can't stop them.
Ukes have been striking deep into Russia for a long time, using drones. Refineries, airfields, other targets. The new permission slip from the US adds ATACMS, which is harder to intercept, with a larger payload, but the range is still limited (around 200 miles).
"Peace" in Lebanon right now is a terrifyingly stupid thing, nukes in Ukraine is yet another nothingburger.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 03:55 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 03:55 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 03:55 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (CWTWj)
Because they are making these decisions.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (LkLld)
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Further complicating their angle: The reason Putin will stay his hand is Trump. In about 10 weeks a deal will be on the table.
Boris knows this, too. That's why he took a shot.
A LOT more people, six months from now, are going to be thanking Almighty God that Cackles didn't win.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: Joe Biden at November 19, 2024 03:48 PM (FC8SQ)
whod id we determine is "the big guy"? Obama or Biden?
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (Rbu5d)
Let's just say it's the "Democracy" Junta, a faceless committee who's calling all the shots.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (w6EFb)
GOPe is still confirming Biden Junta Federal judge nominations.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (/lPRQ)
"Deep inside Russia?" That's nonsense. The missiles have a range of about 200 miles, and Russia is almost 3,000 miles wide. Plus, there are no cities anyone has ever heard of within range of those missiles. Moscow is far outside their range.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (4tmpE)
Posted by: vmom deport
I read this and heard it in the voice of Dustin Hoffman as Rainman.
" Of course it's, it's only two months to war. Uh oh only one months to world war"
Posted by: Madame Mayhem (uppity wench) at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (4XwPj)
Sure, why not? Calvinballski.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (aXxgO)
Executive Order #1 should be pardons for the prisoners of the Garland Archipelago.
Executive Order #2 should be "In one week, a full accounting of every piece of materiel and personnel sent to the ukraine, cost of said materiel, and the names of the companies supplying said materiel"
Executive Order #3 should be "Closure of DEI programs in all federal departments and contractors, and the reversal of any DEI requirements used in performance appraisals."
Posted by: Chuck C at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (yOPBE)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (f6Kjj)
==
Endgame: Everyone involved in the whole Ukraine scam is rounded up and extradited to Russia as a peace offering.
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (Dnobf)
He is also adjusting the color and tint!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (wtvvX)
He controls the vertical. HE controls the horizontal.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Cancer at November 19, 2024 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)
Heh. Almost went with that one.
I remember my old Realistic AM/FM/Police radio also had squelch and the "distant" switch. I miss all the analog controls I used to be able to fiddle with...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (/y7Fe)
Just listening, this second chopstick catch is going to be more "aggressive". The booster is going to come in a bit hotter. The first one was more "conservative". I'm not sure what this really means.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (5UVbb)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (N1DT3)
/The Junta would like to start WW III and of course blame the #BadOrangeMan.
Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (JJRgX)
Posted by: 80's music fan at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM (QSrLX)
Posted by: ryukyu at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM (z/gEl)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (CWTWj)
Too small for Russian GPS to find?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (f6Kjj)
How long does it take to assemble a flat-pack tank with a single allen wrench?
Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM (NgqoH)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: The FNM at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM (oZhjI)
.......
and bikinis. Don't forget the bikinis.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM (v0R5T)
Russian media outlets warn that they will use nukes literally every broadcast of every day.
Ever since the west provided weapons to Ukraine, it's been one, nonstop provocation non-response from Russia, and the sad part is that the idiots Blinkin and whatshisface have taken almost 3 years to recognize that.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (Cyb7/)
Posted by: 80's music
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NATO openly admitted they started it.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (AAvt3)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (N1DT3)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (KcwUg)
So, if you could determine the primary benefactor of investors of MBDA you probably have a good idea of one of the elusive shot callers.
It seems to be graft motivated. Each Storm Shadow missile costs about $1.2 Million. The stockpile is, of course, limited. They're likely already in the Ukraine theater. So, MBDA benefits on paper and in the open for a new order. Who benefits behind the scenes as an investor in that company?
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (dIske)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (KbCG3)
==
The optimist in me is hoping, since Putin is at least a rational actor, that this is grounds for mocking the fecklessness of US gov strikes on Russian territory since they aren't actually going to change Ukraine's losing effort.
"No, it didn't matter. If it mattered, we'd have nuked Kiev."
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (Dnobf)
I think it is a move to block a deployment of US/NATO troops in Ukraine in open fashion. And remember Russia has officially incorporated most of the area they have taken in the war into Russia already. So any move to the front line in general is a move into Russian soil now.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (7fElN)
Tactical nuke against the ATACMS system, wherever they are in The Ukraine, but fortunately I don't think it will come to that. Unless the Ukrainians start shooting the ATACMS willy nilly and hit civilian targets or Moscow, then things could escalate dramatically.
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (4tmpE)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (f6Kjj)
The question is, WHERE will he decide to make that point? Kyiv? D.C.? Or the middle of nowhere, if only to demonstrate the destructive capability at his command.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (7fElN)
Honestly? Nowhere, because nukes aren’t very useful in the war Russia is fighting, except to level large cities, which Russia has no interest in.
Also, a nuke would lead to WWIII. It’s a no-win scenario for Putin. He’s continuing to grind down Ukraine and NATO stockpiles just fine with conventional weapons. A new administration starts soon. Zelensky will be gone soon.
May as well just maintain course.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (FC8SQ)
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2024 04:00 PM (gf6ih)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 19, 2024 04:00 PM (3RZw1)
Since the US is not formally a participant in the war, most of the things Biden has been doing are actual war crimes (not fake ones like in the WoT).
I would be amused to see Trump ship a bunch of Dem/GOPe politcos over to the ICC for criminal charges and then after their convictions leave it.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:00 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (AAvt3)
Posted by: redridinghood at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (NpAcC)
They seem to have really learned their lesson.
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (gf6ih)
Davos.
And I for one would see if we could get him the Noble Peace Prize for doing so
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (CWTWj)
Now it's the cold war countries switched sides.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 03:54 PM (AAvt3)
We will start the invasion by funneling through the Fulda gap. We have had the plans finalized for 75 years.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Halfhand at November 19, 2024 03:50 PM (4Pq/g)
As the nerds say "its not binary." They also need to keep the grift going. Or more importantly the people they work for. It's all about the $$$
Posted by: Max Power at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (q177U)
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (gf6ih)
You wanted: World Peace
You'll settle for: Fallout Shelters
You'll get: Muzzie Rape Bunkers
Posted by: haffhowershower
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You wanted: World Peace
You'll settle for: Fallout Shelters
You'll get: Muzzie Rape
FIFY
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2024 04:02 PM (gf6ih)
Posted by: Martha Raddatz at November 19, 2024 04:02 PM (3RZw1)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:02 PM (AAvt3)
Posted by: PaleRider at November 19, 2024 04:02 PM (CKOCg)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (wtvvX)
You and my grandfather. He used to have a multi-channel scanner radio that picked up Baltimore City police and fire channels. Other stuff that I didn't understand cuz I was too young. If he heard there was something happening close by, he'd jump and and mumble something about taking a walk. That was in the 70s / 80s. When east Baltimore was only kinda dangerous.
Posted by: Doof at November 19, 2024 04:02 PM (jgdZo)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (f6Kjj)
Posted by: Buster Hymandd at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (A2iSa)
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (B9Prs)
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (TGPs7)
Moscow is far outside their range.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: ... at November 19, 2024 04:01 PM (gf6ih)
Remember, Trump was pushing for a stronger alliance with Israel because Kushner wanted to build condos over there or something.
But let's all forget that Zelensky and many of our very own leaders were pushing for investments in Ukraine's rebuilding literally weeks after the war started.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 03:55 PM (v0R5T)
Russia is downwind of Ukraine...
Although I wouldn't want to be in Romania or Moldova, either.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (KcwUg)
TBH I think lil Z honestly won that election. The other candidate was the guy the CIA installed during the coup because he was supposedly so popular even though Poroshenko has always been a clown.
Lil Z ran on a platform of peace with Russia and ending the dirty war in the east, which of course he didn't do. But the Uke people have been voting for that for decades now.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (kTd/k)
Another message, which has been brought forward from the middle of the booklet in the updated version, reads:
'If Sweden is attacked by another country, we will never give up our beloved Julskinka nor shall we ever run out of it.
"All information to that effect is false. Fellow Squareheads, your Swedish Christmas Hams are safe!'
I love seeing a country stick to its traditions.
Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (eDfFs)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (AAvt3)
There was a peace treaty in 2014 after Ukraine got its army surrounded fighting the Donbas militias. I don't think Russia was officially involved itself. This involved negotiations assured by Germany and France to have the Donbas areas be self governing inside of Ukraine and immune to anti ethnic Russian Measures.
These went nowhere and France and Russia did not force Ukraine to settle. And NATO and the US built Ukraine's army back up to fight Russia.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:04 PM (n7h9X)
Remember we have to hate Vlad because he imprisons political opponents, controls the media, and loots his own country. I mean in an evil way in comparison to Biden and our "allies" in Europe that do all those things in a good way.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:04 PM (oZhjI)
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Adults back in charge! America's standing and credibility in the world, restored!
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 19, 2024 04:04 PM (i7Q7S)
"Deep inside Russia?" That's nonsense. The missiles have a range of about 200 miles, and Russia is almost 3,000 miles wide. Plus, there are no cities anyone has ever heard of within range of those missiles. Moscow is far outside their range.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (d9fT1)
The problem, of course, is that how we define the provocation is irrelevant. All that matters is how Russia defines it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:04 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (d9fT1)
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Yeah, they have a 300 km (200 mile) range. I think they are primarily for countering the Russian Glide Bombs...which Russia already moved out of that range factor just recently.
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:05 PM (dIske)
Davos.
And I for one would see if we could get him the Nobel Peace Prize for doing so
Well, he would have to wait until the WEF is meeting there. And it wouldn't be an Nobel Prize, it would be King of the World.
Posted by: Chuck C at November 19, 2024 04:05 PM (yOPBE)
I’ll never support Ukraine. Because of the involvement of our government in forming the Zelensky regime. A proxy, a patsy for the deep state. Arms sales, money laundring, human trafficking, drug sales, weappons biolabs… the list is endless. They can go to hell.
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2024 04:05 PM (PCK5/)
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (4q/mG)
Posted by: Tex Lovera
The beauty of digital - The reception is digital too - comes in great or it doesn't come in at all.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: Chuck C at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (yOPBE)
But first a list of all the programs, and names of employees, so that no shifting them around the board shenanigans can occur.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (KcwUg)
Western companies have been buying up a lot of it during the war. Russia may cancel that if they get that far by the time there is a settlement.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (n7h9X)
Sure, why not? Calvinballski.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM (aXxgO)
Call it what you like, Russia's point is that the US doesn't get to bomb Russia without risk.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (HNgM8)
Davos.
And I for one would see if we could get him the Nobel Peace Prize for doing so
Well, he would have to wait until the WEF is meeting there. And it wouldn't be an Nobel Prize, it would be King of the World.
Posted by: Chuck C at November 19, 2024 04:05 PM (yOPBE)
Can OrangeManBad declare those cocksuckers a terrorist org?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (FC8SQ)
I’ll never support Ukraine. Because of the involvement of our government in forming the Zelensky regime. A proxy, a patsy for the deep state. Arms sales, money laundring, human trafficking, drug sales, weappons biolabs… the list is endless. They can go to hell.
Posted by: tubal
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I nominate tubal for ambassador to Ukraine
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (AAvt3)
Posted by: Grammie's phone at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (SfhV1)
Joe Biden is a foreign policy sage!
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (i7Q7S)
To be fair, extending the reach of arms isn't any more provocative than what Russia just did.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (aXxgO)
The only bright spot is that Putin is a very patient man when it comes to dealing with the West.
He waited eight years to invade Ukraine after Obama's meddling came to a head in 2014.
Perhaps Putin will keep a level head until the spring to see what Trump has to offer.
And let's hope Biden&Co. don't do something even more provocative & stupid before January 20.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 03:52 PM (CWTWj)
I have it on videotape. "Threads" is actually a better flick.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (iODuv)
So don't worry about it. Zelensky will be fine.
Posted by: Bombadil at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (MX0bI)
One objective that was probably always a stretch was ensuring Ukrainian status as non-NATO, formally or de facto. Simply hard to do that absent a political change in Kiev (clearly the "strategy" and objective in Feb. '22).
As CBD and I noted, range on ATACMS is limited. I am fairly sure Uke drone strikes beyond 200 miles have already occurred (I mean substantial ones with some damage to real targets, not symbolic crap aimed at Moscow). Many times.
And Putin's been rattling the nukyler saber since shortly after the war began. Has never been credible, still isn't.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Don Black at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (wtvvX)
You and my grandfather. He used to have a multi-channel scanner radio that picked up Baltimore City police and fire channels. Other stuff that I didn't understand cuz I was too young. If he heard there was something happening close by, he'd jump and and mumble something about taking a walk. That was in the 70s / 80s. When east Baltimore was only kinda dangerous.
Posted by: Doof at November 19, 2024 04:02 PM (jgdZo)
When Mrs. Tex and I lived near there over 30 years ago, you could still go to the National Aquarium at the Inner Harbor and feel like you'd rpobably make it back alive.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2024 03:51 PM (7fElN)
Ottawa.
Please. Ottawa.
Then Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver.
Then take the rest of the day off.
Posted by: Stateless at November 19, 2024 04:08 PM (jvJvP)
Well, Tom Nichols is an expert on everything. 4D strategerist he.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:08 PM (w6EFb)
Cackle.............. Cackle............. Cackle.........
Posted by: Kamal Harris at November 19, 2024 04:08 PM (G3151)
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2024 04:08 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (1m82a)
and it always comes down to "what are you willing to bet?"
Posted by: Kindltot at November 19, 2024 04:08 PM (D7oie)
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:08 PM (v6JzV)
Sure, why not? Calvinballski.
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Seems reasonable enough since they're not a NATO member.
See also : Cuba, Russia, missiles, JFK
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:08 PM (AAvt3)
Posted by: Quartermaster at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM (fs8hc)
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM (dIske)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 03:56 PM
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The western outskirts of Moscow are >300 miles from easternmost Ukraine.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (AAvt3)
Doesn't matter how many times the point is made, the "them damn soviets" brigade is never going to listen.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM (ExV1e)
Wouldn't be the first time the Junta has created conditions so they can rush in and proclaim only they can fix it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Crazy at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (/6E7u)
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM (dIske)
Wasn't it his wife who was recently busted for spying for CHYna or some such? He might be busy.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (KcwUg)
Further, Russia is technologically ahead of Ukraine, AND they have nukes.
Ukraine could never possibly win this war! Democrats that think otherwise are historical and military illiterates - but that never stopped them before from thinking they were the smart ones.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (HlyYF)
How would it be in any way provocative?
Ukraine has been using Western mercs/operatives since the start of the conflict. Why is hiring some Norcs in any way the equivalent of bringing Americans and Brits into the conflict?
Oh and that reminds me - the CIA guy that tried to assassinate Trump in FL after coming back from a tour in Ukraine, has DeSantis beat any truth out of him yet?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (oZhjI)
What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (elO/o)
Lil Z ran on a platform of peace with Russia and ending the dirty war in the east, which of course he didn't do. But the Uke people have been voting for that for decades now.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:03 PM (oZhjI)
Two candidates: one a warmongering shill, the other promising peace and prosperity. The latter wins, but delivers only more war and division.
An old deep state specialty.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (FC8SQ)
I like Vancouver. I think it should be spared.
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (v6JzV)
Option 1 on both was "leave a message", option 2 was "speak with staff".
Warner's office, a young woman listened to me.
Kaine's, the call disconnected when I pressed 2.
My point?
It has been obvious for some time that Biden is not running the country, so whoever decided this was a good idea, I hope the Senator will take action to put a stop to it.
Not. holding. my. breath.
Posted by: barbarausa at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (enw9G)
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 04:11 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:04 PM (ExV1e)
No argument from me. I do think Putin is rational and is simply manipulating Western public opinion.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:11 PM (d9fT1)
2. Only Ukrainians are being nuked.
3. We are being nuked, and here's why it's a good thing.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 19, 2024 04:11 PM (CwhoI)
Posted by: Zombie Joachim Piper at November 19, 2024 04:11 PM (5MA0f)
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (3Ope8)
Russia economy crumbling with food prices skyrocketing as Putin's problems mount
https://is.gd/DyoiRj
Posted by: Archimedes at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (xCA6C)
......
I wonder if Pooty plays NukeMap.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (v0R5T)
Or are they still wedded to their "Putin and Orangemanbad bad" scenario no matter what it may cost them?
....yeah, I know it's the latter, because, for them, bunny boiling is a way of life.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (tT6L1)
Has Brandon answered the call? Where the fudge is he? Who the fudge is in charge?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (OA79/)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (AAvt3)
Sorry if this has been covered.
Posted by: Maybe someday i'll choose a nick and stick with it! Today is not that day. Dangerous Radical at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (89Sog)
The number of NYC/DC based leftists I've seen calling for nuclear war is astounding.
They seem to think you could nuke the Russians and not get a response that starts with, well, NYC and DC.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (oZhjI)
He already knows. So does Zelensky.
If the powers in the west that want more war can be held at bay until Jan 20th there will be a negotiated peace deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (LkLld)
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Not really.
Why would anyone care that there are Nork troops in Ukraine? For the Ukrainians, they're targets just the same as the Russians are.
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (Dnobf)
Donbas and Lugansk independent/under Russian control, local or Moscow-level (well, now incorporated into Russian Federation, which was not what Moscow ever wanted but now no choice).
Potential to secure at least an artillery buffer zone around those two oblasts. Almost there.
Just what the F Moscow was thinking incorporating Zaporozhe and Kherson oblasts I have never understood. They have portions of both, but will require some time and heavy lifting to take all of them, much less any buffer around them. This is sort of a mess for Moscow, likely outcome they're split in a settlement, with population exchanges.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (BcMd9)
--Whoopie Whatsername
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 04:11 PM (Rbu5d)
It's not NYUK nyuks.
-Curly Howard
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (wtvvX)
So don't worry about it. Zelensky will be fine.
Posted by: Bombadil
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Jericho is more likely.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (/lPRQ)
Wait...is that one of those articles where they switch the countries? Because that's here already
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (oZhjI)
Further, Russia is technologically ahead of Ukraine, AND they have nukes.
Ukraine could never possibly win this war! Democrats that think otherwise are historical and military illiterates - but that never stopped them before from thinking they were the smart ones.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (HlyYF)
You are absolutely correct.
But the current retards in the West seem to think that the awesome power of a Ukraine flag in their Twitter handles will compensate for all of that real-world superiority of Russia.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (d9fT1)
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(looks at grocery store receipt from 2020, compares it to this week's)
Uhh...
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (AAvt3)
I’ll never support Ukraine. Because of the involvement of our government in forming the Zelensky regime. A proxy, a patsy for the deep state. Arms sales, money laundring, human trafficking, drug sales, weappons biolabs… the list is endless. They can go to hell.
Posted by: tubal at November 19, 2024 04:05 PM (PCK5/)
I hadn't known much about politics in this region but the final straw was how Ukraine would slap some troops into a useless townlet and let the Russians shell them to ruin at their leisure, then follow that with repeated "meat assaults" as their own troops call them until units are dead. Even their own Bandarite fanatics.
I stay away from most 'war porn' videos but in their grand offensive there was a clip of troops walking miles across a flat as a pool table terrain toward the front, the only cover some brush along the edge of the field most of which had been blasted apart by artillery or drones. Just trudge ahead to nothing, no cover, and see if a plane gets you, a shell, or you get forward far enough to catch a bullet. No chance at all, just keep walking.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (N1DT3)
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We deserve better Circuses and a Klass of Klowns.
Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (86R02)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:06 PM (FC8SQ)
Russian "hypersonic" missiles have proven to be - just like literally every other piece of Russian military equipment - laughably bad. Bad as in, not fast enough to be actually hypersonic.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (tmEx9)
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Yes, of course. This represents no new change in range or capability. It won’t change the war one bit.
So why is the deep state doing it? It’s provocation for provocation’s sake.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (FC8SQ)
"The Chinese ship Yi Peng is the main suspect in the investigation into who cut two undersea telecom cables between Finland-Germany and Sweden-Lithuania.
The ship sailed right over the cables when they were cut at 8am GMT on Sunday and 2am GMT on Monday."
Unsubstantiated but smells suspicious.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Justice for Peanut at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (F3SmE)
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (/6GbT)
......
I wonder if Pooty plays NukeMap.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (v0R5T)
Risk. And he's starting from Kamchatka.
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (wtvvX)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (/y7Fe)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM
That, Sir, is an excessively cynical statement for one of such tender years.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (elO/o)
How long does it take to assemble a flat-pack tank with a single allen wrench?
Posted by: Heavy Meta at November 19, 2024 03:58 PM
And the leftover parts?
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (4p0Xq)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (d9fT1)
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I've met you and can say, with good authority, you are much to young to be so cynical.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (tT6L1)
Posted by: Kamal Harris at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (sI4+g)
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (tmEx9)
Comically incorrect.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (FC8SQ)
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Not really.
Why would anyone care that there are Nork troops in Ukraine? For the Ukrainians, they're targets just the same as the Russians are.
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (Dnobf)
Are they in Ukraine? Last I heard they were in Russia (Kursk) only.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (KcwUg)
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When you want to escape under fire, pop smoke and make a lot of noise.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (jFCkp)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (CWTWj)
Posted by: Moron Robbie
.......
Tsar Bomba oughta do the trick.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: N at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (8XibL)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (oZhjI)
It's okay when we do it.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (ExV1e)
I really hope now that an adult is in the room, he and the other players involved can avert the CIA and State Department's dastardly plot.
*spits*
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (7oYYI)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (1m82a)
When Trump brokers a peace in February 2025, Russia will magnanimously give back all the territory that is a PITA to keep.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:14 PM (FC8SQ)
_____________________________
See #90 (short version: gravy train graft)
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (dIske)
'Deep into Russia' is not that deep. ATACMS range is not thousands of miles; it's a bit less than 200 miles. 190 miles per reports. The Franco-British Storm Shadow's range is greater, about 340 miles. Storm Shadows have been used by Ukraine for over a year.
Just sayin' that Z-Man is not going to hit Moscow or many Russian strategic targets with ATACMs launched from Ukraine. It will extend Ukraine's strike capability deeper into the rear areas of Russian forces fighting in Ukraine and now trying to re-take Kursk in Russia.
Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:09 PM
You talking about this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Oq2_DoCGizs
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (QNSds)
Russia economy crumbling with food prices skyrocketing as Putin's problems mount
Wait...is that one of those articles where they switch the countries? Because that's here already
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (oZhjI)
it's absurd, since the one thing Russia has is room to grow crops, and we keep them from selling any abroad.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Don Black at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (/7KEl)
We've sent, what, $100 billion to Ukraine at this point?
And now SOMEONE (ahem) is firing American-made weapons using American targeting data deep in to Russian territory.
Even if this ends "well" it has already cost us many many billions and cost the Russians and Ukrainians god knows how many lives AND created a Ukranian refugee crisis.
Great work, fellas.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (Evo1G)
Posted by: Kamal Harris at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (sI4+g)
Field Artillery Rapid Tactical missiles!!!
Posted by: Tex Lovera at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (wtvvX)
A delicate balance. He knows who he is fighting in Ukraine and even if the missiles can't reach Moscow I'm sure he wants them to stop asap so threats.
I doubt Putin wants WWIII anymore than the rest of us sane people but he also is not going to walk away from this war empty handed or let a bunch of whack jobs in DC continue to escalate without some sort of response.
Putin has been open to a negotiated peace deal for some time. It's the west that has refused.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (LkLld)
Posted by: Northernlurker , Maple Syrup MAGA at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (kTd/k)
Ummmm. Have you been there in the last five years?
Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (FNTGU)
You mean, for people trying to buy food with dollars instead of BRICS asset-based, non-Central Bank-controlled rubles?
Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (A1ulB)
Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden at November 19, 2024 04:10 PM (elO/o)
Not even that, lady.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 19, 2024 04:15 PM (tT6L1)
I look younger when I drink.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: N at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (8XibL)
Uhh...
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (AAvt3)
The average Russian consumer is not in a position to survive even a fraction of the inflation that the American consumer (painfully) absorbed.
Average American annual income: $80k
Average Russian annual income: $14k
Just for comparison's sake, the average consumer in ... *checks notes*... ahh yes... Cyprus, earns twice as much as the average Russian.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (tmEx9)
Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (aBgBM)
200 miles is very far in to russian territory. If Russia was firing missiles 200 miles in the US from the Mexican border, would we say "eh, no big deal, they can't reach DC from there!"
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (Evo1G)
But the current retards in the West seem to think that the awesome power of a Ukraine flag in their Twitter handles will compensate for all of that real-world superiority of Russia.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM (d9fT1)
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Mean Tweets > Ukraine Flag Emojis
Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (STC6P)
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (3t4sN)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (CWTWj)
Russia economy crumbling with food prices skyrocketing as Putin's problems mount
https://is.gd/DyoiRj
Posted by: Archimedes at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (xCA6C)
1. That is a UK media source.
2. The media, including the UK media, lies about everything.
3. Boris Johnson, the former UK Prime Minister, is the reason fighting didn't end in 2022.
Forgive me if I take that article with a salt mine.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:07 PM (aXxgO)
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I've been thinking there's an opposing alliance forming since about 2008.
Russia, China, North Korea, Iran, Cuba, and Venezuela.
All authoritarian states, all opposed to the U.S. economically and politically.
My thinking hasn't changed, now I just look to see which side other countries (India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia, etc.) are taking.
Is that the making of WWIII?
I dunno, but North Korea joining in so Kim could give his soldier-slaves some real combat training while ingratiating himself to Putin was a little surprising.
I'd be more interested to know what Xi thinks of his little pet sidekick Kim right now.
I've seen nothing to change my mind on that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (6ydKt)
Would be quite messy to back out of the part of Zaporozhe they hold. A bit less but still messy down in Kherson.
As I said, splitting those oblasts along existing military lines, followed by population exchanges, much more likely.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (1m82a)
Hmmm. Not a bad theory. In fact, very good.
Spidey senses triggered.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (aXxgO)
You mean, for people trying to buy food with dollars instead of BRICS asset-based, non-Central Bank-controlled rubles?
Read the article. The price Russians pay for food is dramatically increasing.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (/y7Fe)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:09
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Correction.
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Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (wzAuc)
Ummmm. Have you been there in the last five years?
Posted by: nurse ratched
No. I went to the World's Fair there in '86 or '87.
I guess it has become like San Francisco, Portland, or Seattle?
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (d9fT1)
They have already said that they have no problem with Poland or Hungary slicing off a portion near their own borders...though Putin did warn Poland that the Germans might come sniffing for some land from Poland. The allies in 1945 shifted Poland a hundred and fifty miles or so west.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (n7h9X)
LOL
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Wardo at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (VYoMb)
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (eb5mD)
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 03:57 PM (N1DT3)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 03:59 PM (KcwUg)
That's a bit of a stretch. Cambodia's 1970s ruling class, Mao's Chinese ruling class, the Soviet Ruling Class, the decadent Roman ruling class are still worse. That's just a sampling. Pretty much ALL the Mohammedan rulers were also far more evil. But ours are working to catch up.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (N1DT3)
Sorry if this has been covered.
Posted by: Maybe someday i'll choose a nick and stick with it! Today
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He wants to have the sentencing hearing in 4 yrs 3 months.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (/lPRQ)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 04:21 PM (CWTWj)
2. The media, including the UK media, lies about everything.
Well, that's one way not to address the points made.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 19, 2024 04:21 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2024 04:21 PM (fwDg9)
Average American annual income: $80k
Average Russian annual income: $14k
Just for comparison's sake, the average consumer in ... *checks notes*... ahh yes... Cyprus, earns twice as much as the average Russian.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (tmEx9)
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The average illegal alien in the US now "earns" total entitlement benefits > $80k!
/only half-joking
Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 19, 2024 04:21 PM (STC6P)
Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2024 04:16 PM (aBgBM)
Specifically they need to target the supply depots and staging areas that support the Russian front line forces. Also the glide bomb launch positions and the airfield locations where the KA-52's launch from (Although I think that Russia pulled those back when they started getting HIMARS'd)
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 04:21 PM (tmEx9)
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:12 PM (oZhjI)
🤔
Maybe I’ve been hasty with this “no nuclear war” stance. As long as we keep it limited: we nuke the vital Russian cities of Paris and Berlin, and Russia takes out DC and NYC.
This could work.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:21 PM (FC8SQ)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (7oYYI)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:13 PM
"Now witness the power of this fully-armed and operational
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (HlyYF)
They will defect before they go home. Once they see how the other half lives.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (3t4sN)
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I dunno, but North Korea joining in so Kim could give his soldier-slaves some real combat training while ingratiating himself to Putin was a little surprising.
I'd be more interested to know what Xi thinks of his little pet sidekick Kim right now.
I've seen nothing to change my mind on that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (6ydKt)
Same here, I have always thought NK was nothing more than a client state of CHYna. Did Kim even mention this to Xi in advance or did he just decide all on his own?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:09
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Correction.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (wzAuc)
Ukraine has hit even a building in the Kremlin with a drone about a year or so ago. And apartment complexes. Russia has improved air defenses since.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (v6JzV)
Now we have the Junta formally arming the Ukes and...that's ok.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (oZhjI)
Ukraine Strikes Russian Border Region With U.S.-Made Missiles, Moscow Says
https://tinyurl.com/5dzmmrbj
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (dIske)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (CWTWj)
No question that an international re-alignment is developing. Also no question that China is the new epicenter of that movement and has replaced Russia as the foundation.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: brak at November 19, 2024 04:23 PM (NGHTx)
Lil'Z and the Junta have destroyed an entire generation of Ukrainian men. [types][deletes]
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 19, 2024 04:23 PM (Rbu5d)
Do not underestimate how much growing up through the Cold War fucked up a couple generations. It formed their world view.
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:23 PM (8EEJj)
Russia has plenty of food but wants to minimize Russia casualties. NK could care less about its people dying and not enough food.
Seems like a pretty obvious deal on both sides.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:24 PM (oZhjI)
The Kerch Strait bridge, has has been shown, is too vulnerable.
That was the entire reason for the war.
Anything else Putin claimed was purely B.S.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:24 PM (6ydKt)
I've seen nothing to change my mind on that.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (6ydKt)
Same here, I have always thought NK was nothing more than a client state of CHYna. Did Kim even mention this to Xi in advance or did he just decide all on his own?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (KcwUg)
I haven't seen any evidence that there are actually any Koreans anywhere in Kursk, the other battle lines or in Russia at all aside from Western claims.
It would introduce a lot of problems due to lack of training, the language barrier, and equipment.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:24 PM (n7h9X)
Now here we are. At least now I'm a lot better equipped, but getting a little too aged to be yelling Wolverines! from the hilltops.
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser at November 19, 2024 04:24 PM (Ij2uN)
Posted by: Wardo at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (VYoMb)
Because just like everything they do, Russia is inept at pretty much everything.
As long as Zelensky stays away from balconies and high-rise windows he should be ok.
Speaking of which, a Russian dancer who was a critic of Putin just managed to magically defenestrate himself.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 04:24 PM (tmEx9)
Someone else — 59 percent
Vice President Kamala Harris — 41 percent
California Gov. Gavin Newsom — 8 percent
Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro — 7 percent
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg — 6 percent
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz — 6 percent
Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Duke Lowell. at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (u73oe)
These went nowhere and France and Russia did not force Ukraine to settle. And NATO and the US built Ukraine's army back up to fight Russia.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:04 PM (n7h9X)
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It was supported by Russian assets. They just weren't uniformed as such.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (GZYu7)
I'd argue they are no less evil, just that there are still some constraints on them. Absent those constraints, these animals would commit world-historical crimes on a unique scale.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (7oYYI)
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DC and the "More than ten miles from my house" guy probably would.
Is there anything within 200 miles of the Mexico border they care about (aside from illegal aliens)?
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (Dnobf)
Posted by: Wardo at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (VYoMb)
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With what we are paying Little Z, I'm sure he can afford quality food tasters and dogs trained to sniff out polonium additives...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (7fElN)
If they popped KEEEEEE EEEEVE with one it would not kill everyone there, but the survivors would be horribly burned with the radiation.
15 kt is tactical in size, not strategic, which is the class with yields of 100 kt up to mega and larger.
Which nuclear nation would strike Russia if they popped KEEEEEE EEVE with a tactical? France? Britain? Israel? The United States?
What size weapon? A 15 kt on Moscow? I'd bet Moscow could defend that with a shield?
Where does it all go from here, with two full months to go until January 20?
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (ZtgZZ)
Ukraine has already used their own weaponry, Storm Shadow and Western vehicles inside Russia. This constraint was ridiculous and arbitrary and in my mind showed a lack of seriousness about beating the Russians from leaders in Europe and the USA.
Posted by: stv at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (Vicsq)
Posted by: Wardo at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (VYoMb)
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Mother Putin's Polonium Tea
It's good for what ails me?
Now with ricin!!
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight, Concertina Czar at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (z0QHk)
Posted by: Wardo
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Why get rid of Russia's secret weapon. Rule is, you go after competent leaders, not ones that help you via their incompetence. They figure either the Ukrainians or the Western intel agencies will do the dirty work for them when Zelensky is no longer needed to prop up.
Posted by: whig at November 19, 2024 04:26 PM (ctrM5)
Rootin' for Putin Since 2022
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 19, 2024 04:26 PM (wBaIH)
Posted by: blaster at November 19, 2024 04:26 PM (xhfG9)
Porn!!! And that's just the beginning.
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:26 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Ciampino - there can only be One President at November 19, 2024 04:26 PM (i0xsb)
(yes I know of the slim R majority in the House)
the Other Side would love for Trump to take the bait and do something unlawful, such as 'conduct foreign policy'- by speaking with Putin- outside the boundaries of the law
imo ymmv fwiw
Posted by: Don Black at November 19, 2024 04:26 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2024 04:27 PM (LkLld)
And umbrellas.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:27 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2024 04:27 PM (RHGPo)
apologies for the typo. Mea Culpa.
Posted by: Ciampino - there can only be One President at November 19, 2024 04:27 PM (i0xsb)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (KcwUg)
It's complicated.
Russia shares a border with NK, and NK was originally a Soviet client state before the Sino / Soviet unpleasantness.
But, yes, I'm sure China was made aware of any NK troop movements.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 19, 2024 04:27 PM (Evo1G)
- Who, actually is the President now? Who is giving the orders?
- Where the hell is Congress? Why is Congress tolerating a brain dead President and an executive branch ruled by a faceless gaggle of unelected numbnuts.
Posted by: Seamus Moon at November 19, 2024 04:27 PM (Ab/3c)
Vancouver has been full of smug, entitled, arrogant dickheads for a lot longer than five years. But yes, the town has become significantly more run down recently.
I always laugh when people say how NICE Canadians are. A whole lot of them are smug leftists who never miss an opportunity to passive aggressively take swipes at you. Some of them have their heads on straight, but they're a minority among Canadians.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2024 04:28 PM (Odg76)
SpaceX facility at Brownsville. I mean maybe since Elon bought Twitter they are ok with it getting destroyed but it's pretty important for a lot of govt contracts.
Posted by: brak at November 19, 2024 04:28 PM (NGHTx)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:22 PM (aXxgO)
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Problem is, the Russians and Chinese have never trusted each other.
Russia's oil & gas may not be enough to keep the couple together.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:28 PM (6ydKt)
Posted by: Diogenes at November 19, 2024 04:28 PM (W/lyH)
Nothing new about that.
As for "escalation", someone should draw an annotated timeline from Feb. '22 and explain to me where the "escalation" points were. The conflict has expanded to new modes and areas as the two sides gained the capacity to execute such operations, gradually. A few spikes here and there (Russia seems to decide to degrade Uke electricity infrastructure, then shifts away from that, same with hitting mercenary and foreign trainer centers, on and on).
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:28 PM (1m82a)
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (/y7Fe)
Posted by: Weasel at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (fghTy)
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That, and the smell of cabbage.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (jFCkp)
Putin Announces He Is Changing Russia's Nuke Rules to Allow Using Nukes Against Ukraine”
Putin keeps moving his weapons stores out of range. An artificial range that NATO set when they delivered the SCALP systems and later ATACMS. He is then using those stores to launch attacks across Ukraine. It’s war. We call that a tactical adjustment. If Putin was serious about ending this he would be sitting down with that little puke Zelensky. The two of them are so short, they’re bound to see eye to eye.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (fR05s)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: N at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (8XibL)
Somebody ... anybody ... tell me the strategic significance of Ukraine - and why I should wave a flag while young boys - including mine - eventually get sucked into this shit show ?
Its the Black Fucking Sea. You can't even get out of it without fighting Turkey.
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (8EEJj)
Posted by: Tinfoil Dispenser
What is the whole Wolverine meme about?
(And yes, I am a Michigan fan, but I am in recovery now, maybe, so, please no snarky Harbaugh references. Just explain it to me in non-football terms, if possible.)
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (v6JzV)
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Are any of those guys that invaded Russia a couple months back still around?
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (Dnobf)
You might say he was...
walking on sunshine.
Posted by: YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (Odg76)
The Kerch Strait bridge, has has been shown, is too vulnerable.
That was the entire reason for the war.
Anything else Putin claimed was purely B.S.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:24 PM (6ydKt)
It wasn't even completed until 2020, and issues there started in 2014 and earlier.
Ukraine also had a habit of cutting off water from the land bridge area bound for Crimea even in peacetime.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:30 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (n7h9X)
Further, WHY would food prices skyrocket? Because the oil they drill in their own country is unavailable? No, wait, it's because the fertilizer that the EU has banned it's farmers from using isn't available... no, that's not it. I've got it... global warming.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:30 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (wzAuc)
I figured! I was looking at current borders, but I may be wrong.
Still, Moscow is outside the range of the American missile system.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:30 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 19, 2024 04:30 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:19 PM (ExV1e)
It’s always the same UK media cutouts, too. They lie about everything, but we’re supposed to believe them.
But Putin, what an authoritarian, huh? If I woke up and read that Nancy Pelosi or AOC fell out of a window it would just break my heart.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:30 PM (FC8SQ)
You mean, for people trying to buy food with dollars instead of BRICS asset-based, non-Central Bank-controlled rubles?
Posted by: t-bird at November 19, 2024 04:17 PM (A1ulB)
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Russia merchants will not accept any foreign currency for payment, and credit cards no longer work if you are from outside Russia. So you have to bring enough hard currency in to buy rubles - not sure what exchange rate they are forcing, because the ruble itself is currently worth almost nothing. The Russian central bank has already acknowledged their inflation issue but are of course spinning it as favorably as any other government you'd expect to do under the current situation.
Drill baby drill will further hurt their economy as oil shipments account for a fair amount of their hard currency accumulation. That price is going to be going down in a few months.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:31 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2024 04:31 PM (fR05s)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:31 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 19, 2024 04:31 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2024 04:31 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: N at November 19, 2024 04:31 PM (8XibL)
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You have to love Russian media. "They all look alike."
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (dIske)
Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz — 6 percent
Posted by: SMOD at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (RHGPo)
That's the stat that's the real shocker. Even more than Kamala's 41%.
6% of the Democrats took a look at that prancing frog mouthed retard and thought, "Yeah. Hell, yeah! That's what America needs more of...Tim Walz!"
Posted by: naturalfake at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (eDfFs)
I always laugh when people say how NICE Canadians are. A whole lot of them are smug leftists who never miss an opportunity to passive aggressively take swipes at you. Some of them have their heads on straight, but they're a minority among Canadians.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2024 04:28 PM (Odg76)
Anecdotal: we were in Jordan on 9/11. At an official function we had to attend a week or so later, the Canadians were laughing about the people jumping from the Twin Towers, making sure the Americans heard them. The Jordanian host ripped them a new one and asked them to leave. That was the first time the mask of nice "Canadian" slipped for me. Not the last.
Posted by: Moki at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (wLjpr)
Posted by: Same Old Same Old
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You do realize that includes the vast majority of us morons, ight?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (N5vDe)
The Commitee
WH staff, Kalorama, select individuals from Pentagon CIA NSA DOJ
Biden isn't allowed near the machinery
Posted by: Don Black at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (/7KEl)
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
BREAKING:
Strong evidence indicating that the Chinese bulk carrier Yi Peng destroyed 2 undersea telecom cables connecting Finland-Germany & Sweden-Lithuania
A Danish Navy vessel is shadowing Yi Peng right now. She’s trying to leave the Baltic Sea. Board the ship!
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (TGPs7)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (1m82a)
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That's a bit of a stretch. Cambodia's 1970s ruling class, Mao's Chinese ruling class, the Soviet Ruling Class, the decadent Roman ruling class are still worse. That's just a sampling. Pretty much ALL the Mohammedan rulers were also far more evil. But ours are working to catch up.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (N1DT3)
Ok, that's fair, our retards thus far have only made noises suggesting they want to emulate those regimes; they haven't gotten there yet.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: Ciampino
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Easy enough, Blinken SoS, Biden's NSA advisor, SoD Austin, CIA director, and some generals/admirals over that area.
Then there are the Members of Congress supporting this clusterf*ck and about as subtle as a monkey trying to hump a football.
Posted by: whig at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (ctrM5)
The bonding agent is the shared enemy: the US. Enemy of my enemy stuff. As in all geopolitics, friendship is relative.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (aXxgO)
Find me a time period when they weren't either openly fighting us - or trying to co-opt our military for their own use. I'll wait.
Just because they speak a common language does not mean they are de facto allies. Quite the opposite.
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (8EEJj)
Porn!!! And that's just the beginning.
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:26 PM (v6JzV)
NoKo deserters will be executed if caught. They know it. I doubt a NoKo grunt can hide-out in SE Russia for long. Surrender my be a safer choice. Maybe. If you can get through the front lines of Russian forces and not shot or blown-up in no-man's land by Uke troops and the mines both sides laid.
Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (v0R5T)
1999. That the year the Uniparty got Pedo Hastert installed as the most powerful Republican in DC.
Since then the US has been one of the primary pushers of globohomo
Posted by: 18-1 at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (oZhjI)
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (8EEJj)
*NODS IN SATISFACTION*
Posted by: Constantine the Great at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (QoyXi)
When Elon gets this going "fully operational" he's gonna be launching and catching Starship boosters simultaneously.
If you're gonna send a fleet to Mars, you're gonna need to get a shit ton of fuel tankers in orbit. He's gonna pull that off.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (w6EFb)
Putin Announces He Is Changing Russia's Nuke Rules to Allow Using Nukes Against Ukraine
Oh god, yes! (Fap fap fap) I'm almost there!!! (Fap fap fap)
Where do you want it?!?!?!?
Posted by: Military Industrial Complex, Deep Staters, and Warhawk Neocons at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (cKUGv)
Average American annual income: $80k
Average Russian annual income: $14k
Just for comparison's sake, the average consumer in ... *checks notes*... ahh yes... Cyprus, earns twice as much as the average Russian.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (tmEx9)
This sounds like leftists crowing about how they make 6 figures in Cali while those poor slobs in 'Bama only make 35K. Comparing income without comparing cost of living is meaningless.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (ZiDfp)
Posted by: Marcus T at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (fR05s)
I always laugh when people say how NICE Canadians are. A whole lot of them are smug leftists who never miss an opportunity to passive aggressively take swipes at you. Some of them have their heads on straight, but they're a minority among Canadians.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2024
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Is that primarily true for people in the cities? Are those out on the prairies more conservatively oriented?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (N5vDe)
Yes. I said it for a reason. Passionately sticking to old paradigms isn't a good idea.
We're not living in the Reagan 80s anymore.
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (8EEJj)
Germany too, I heard. The undersea cable cut was near Gotland, which I guess belongs to Sweden. This sucks.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (0I+GC)
Posted by: Archimedes at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (xCA6C)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 19, 2024 04:18 PM (Evo1G)
If they were only hitting Texas, the government would say just that. If they were hitting Cali... they'd probably still say that.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (ExV1e)
SpaceX - Starship Suborbital Test Flight 6
OLP-A - Starbase, Texas - Space Affairs Live
Launch Date: November 19, 2024
Launch Time: 4:00 p.m. Central Time , 5:00 p.m. ET, 2200 UTC, 23:00 CET
https://www.youtube.com/live/ucEu075bgx0
SpaceX Site now live:
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Posted by: Ciampino - spacey Space at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (i0xsb)
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:31 PM (GZYu7)
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I think the upcoming Trump administration has two major leverages to stop the war in Ukraine. First, he can stop the direct payments to Ukraine and the shipment of American arms over there. Second, he can indirectly stop funding Russia by opening up American energy production and driving the price down worldwide. Then neither side will be able to continue waging war.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2024 04:35 PM (7fElN)
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Are any of those guys that invaded Russia a couple months back still around?
Posted by: Methos at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (Dnobf)
The Kursk 'stunt' has been admitted by Kiev to be an attempt to grab the nuke plant there. Once the raid was blocked, they spent a while driving about trying to attack border guard units in the area without digging in. Eventually reinforcements arrived and the lines firmed up a bit haphazardly. Its a pretty unpopulated forest area not worth anything, and the Ukrainians, by going there have no improved positions. Since then about 40 percent of the area has been recovered, and the Russians are cutting off enclaves and capturing troops, and are threatening to block the only road into the area and bag them all. The bad weather doesn't help with a retreat, which Ukraine never actually does. It looks like a dopey idea turning into a disaster.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:35 PM (n7h9X)
I want to see how many Nork troops fail to return to Norkland because they've seen what life in a not-totally-batshit country is like.
They'll all return unless they want to see their families punished.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 19, 2024 04:35 PM (63Dwl)
i was in the field for three years with Mother Green, staring down the Pink Stain
Reagan said it best: "We win, they lose."
Posted by: Don Black at November 19, 2024 04:35 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 19, 2024 04:25 PM (7oYYI)
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Can't argue with that.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 04:35 PM (N1DT3)
Maybe it's the cicada swarm that never showed up here as promised.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (0I+GC)
They have an official payload in this test flight. It's a banana. Space Daddy has a sense of humor.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (iU/IZ)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2024 04:37 PM (Hh1ER)
Posted by: Orson at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (dIske)
The Norks are the ones 4 inches shorter and 30 lbs lighter.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 19, 2024 04:37 PM (W/lyH)
Posted by: JackStraw at November 19, 2024 04:37 PM (LkLld)
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What is the whole Wolverine meme about?
(And yes, I am a Michigan fan, but I am in recovery now, maybe, so, please no snarky Harbaugh references. Just explain it to me in non-football terms, if possible.)
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:29 PM (v6JzV)
The original Red Dawn was about a bunch of CO HS kids whose school mascot was a wolverine.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:37 PM (KcwUg)
Maybe it's the cicada swarm that never showed up here as promised.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (0I+GC)
TWO BROODS! THEY'LL DARKEN THE SKIES!!!!
Was that global warming that made it fizzle? I'd like to send a thank you card.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work laptop at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (QoyXi)
Russia is going to get some of what they want. Trump will probably be prepared to recognize some form of the present battle front as now belonging to Russia, there will have to be some payment or concession for that. Zelensky's pressure will be our aid is about to end. Putin's pressure will be we are about to make your oil practically worthless with drill baby drill, so move quick.
No nukes. Settlement within 6 months.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (GZYu7)
Uhh...
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The average Russian consumer is not in a position to survive even a fraction of the inflation that the American consumer (painfully) absorbed.
Average American annual income: $80k
Average Russian annual income: $14k
Just for comparison's sake, the average consumer in ... *checks notes*... ahh yes... Cyprus, earns twice as much as the average Russian.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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So you're saying Americans will feel the immediate massive degradation in quality of life much more than the Russians?
Yeah, you're probably right.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (AAvt3)
I actually skipped work to go to the opening.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (0I+GC)
@PeytonElroy
We are in the FINAL HOURS of Pluto in Capricorn for the rest of our lives before moving into Aquarius
Where you will be at this 👇🏼 time?
12:32pm PST / 3:32pm EST
Take a moment of meditation or prayer to visualize what the next 20 years looks like for you — don’t hold back!
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (TGPs7)
Make peace with Russia & Ukraine.
Get some good will going. Let cooler heads prevail.
Then invite both nations into NATO.
It'd be worth it just to see the panic from Beijing to Brussels to D.C.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (6ydKt)
This booster return and chopstick catch is going to be more "aggressive" than the last, whatever that means, Elon has said.
It's going to come in hotter.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Ciampino - spacey Space spaces at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (i0xsb)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (ExV1e)
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That's bananas!
Launch countdown nominal.
Posted by: WisRich at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (G0vdT)
h/t @DavidSacks
The name "Sacks" will never not cause me to laugh like Beavis & Butthead.
Posted by: Hands at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (1IZKn)
'Nam was a turning point. And the Domino Theory. The concept that - regardless - if they're for it we're against it.
And the notion that you "owed" Uncle Sam a year, and maybe your life, for a patch of SouthEast Asia where the typical fuck in his rice paddy couldn't tell the difference regardless of who won.
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (8EEJj)
Posted by: pookysgirl, relieved at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (dtlDP)
Posted by: Don Black at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (/7KEl)
Posted by: Gref
Yeah, but Russia is the biggest country in the world. Lotsa places to hide. Some of them may well try it, and succeed.
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: 38 at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (Vu7A1)
Posted by: Skip at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 19, 2024 04:35 PM (7fElN)
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Yep - I just wrote that. I think you are right on the money.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:39 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Wardo at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (VYoMb)
Supposedly, Russia tracks his movements. He likes to visit drone construction areas, drone control areas, military staging areas, etc. and they use that for targeting. Supposedly.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (w6EFb)
Should have been a box of ballots labeled Philadelphia
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (/6GbT)
Putin Announces He Is Changing Russia's Nuke Rules to Allow Using Nukes Against Ukraine
youtu.be/nxMMElT61A8
youtu.be/3edi2Wkr5YI
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (sAmhv)
They're marshaling their forces for a 2025 sneak attack. Never forget 1973.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (0I+GC)
Posted by: Marcus T
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Really? I hate that sleazeball.
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (iU/IZ)
Posted by: ShainS -- Dems Haven't Been This Angry Since We Took Their Slaves Away! at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (zaWyB)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:40 PM (w6EFb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM
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Does this ending include a good horse and Nova? That would soften the blow.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:41 PM (wzAuc)
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I'm shocked at how many women worship the horoscopes
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:41 PM (AAvt3)
https://www.youtube.com/live/dtmvbQDou4I
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Posted by: Ciampino - spacey Space
Thank you for posting these - I love watching these!
Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2024 04:41 PM (oiNtH)
https://www.youtube.com/live/dtmvbQDou4I
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Posted by: Ciampino - spacey Space
Thank you for posting these - I love watching these!
Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2024 04:41 PM (oiNtH)
Me too..watching the live feed now. So exciting. What a time to be alive.
Posted by: IC - Cope Harder, Liberals at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (DJ7uY)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
Thank you, Helena. I've never seen Red Dawn.
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (s3qiR)
The bonding agent is the shared enemy: the US. Enemy of my enemy stuff. As in all geopolitics, friendship is relative.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (aXxgO)
They are joined at the hip now and improving inland communication to avoid us even being able to touch their trade connection. Building a trade route south to the Indian Ocean/Pakistan area too.
BRICS even if it remans a trade system will also reduce US clout everywhere else in the world too.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (Z8Yh2)
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You too, huh?
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (DRSnL)
Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
BREAKING:
Strong evidence indicating that the Chinese bulk carrier Yi Peng destroyed 2 undersea telecom cables connecting Finland-Germany & Sweden-Lithuania
A Danish Navy vessel is shadowing Yi Peng right now. She’s trying to leave the Baltic Sea. Board the ship!
Posted by: Mister Ghost at November 19, 2024 04:32 PM (TGPs7)
Undersea cables get cut all the time. Every few months it makes the news, people scream “sabotage!”
It always turns out to be a ship dragging an anchor. Repairing cables is very common and relatively easy.
Those cables will be repaired shortly. Until then, data gets routed across one of the dozens or hundreds of other undersea cables, same as it always does. The effects are mostly noticed by NOCs, average users wouldn’t even know if the media didn’t make a big deal about it.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (FC8SQ)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:43 PM (AAvt3)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 19, 2024 04:43 PM (iU/IZ)
Maybe it's the cicada swarm that never showed up here as promised.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at November 19, 2024 04:36 PM (0I+GC)
TWO BROODS! THEY'LL DARKEN THE SKIES!!!!
Was that global warming that made it fizzle? I'd like to send a thank you card.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work laptop at November 19, 2024 04:38 PM (QoyXi)
Then we will blow in the shade.
Posted by: Kamala Harris at November 19, 2024 04:43 PM (KcwUg)
https://www.youtube.com/live/dtmvbQDou4I
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Posted by: Ciampino - spacey Space at November 19, 2024 04:34 PM (i0xsb)
Launch is late in the day here so Starship's planned ocean 'landing' location in the Indian or Pacific Ocean will be in daylight. SpaceX needs a much better visual look at how the thermal protection tiles perform this time. Last flight still experienced a lot of problems with the tiles.
Posted by: Gref at November 19, 2024 04:43 PM (aBgBM)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:43 PM (AAvt3)
Yes, and no. There is a not-insignificant subset of Canadians that would fit right in here. They do tend to be out in the country. But the Canadian character is very different to the American character.
If you tell most Canadians that millions of Americans would absolutely refuse to turn in their guns if the government told them to, they are shocked. It simply doesn't occur to them that the NRA and Republican congressmen aren't the only thing standing between the government and everyone giving up their guns.
Canadians waited around for England to grant them their autonomy. Canadians are very proud of their milquetoast Charter that basically recognizes zero rights as absolutes. Everything is based on time and place and government whims. Most Canadians think they have exactly the same 1st Amendment protections as Americans.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2024 04:43 PM (Odg76)
They're going to push the reentry past the limits. They are going to test the vehicle's true limits, so they will probably destroy the Starship on reentry.
How fast and hot can this baby come in before "rapid unscheduled disassembly".
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (w6EFb) at November 19, 2024 04:44 PM (w6EFb)
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I'm shocked at how many women worship the horoscopes
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:41 PM (AAvt3)
Especially since when the sun is in the sign of Capricorn it is not in the constellation of Capricorn. There is actually a 13th constellation in the Zodiac they don't mention.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:44 PM (n7h9X)
Soul, sold.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 19, 2024 04:44 PM (Z8Yh2)
Posted by: GuessWho at November 19, 2024 04:44 PM (VCta4)
Posted by: eleven at November 19, 2024 04:44 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: WisRich at November 19, 2024 04:44 PM (G0vdT)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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We were protecting our loans to Britain and France, and their ability to pay them back.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at November 19, 2024 04:44 PM (N5vDe)
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I'm shocked at how many women worship the horoscopes
Posted by: Moron Robbie
WE BELIEVE THE #SCIENCE!!!!
Posted by: A Coven of Karens at November 19, 2024 04:45 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Wardo at November 19, 2024 04:20 PM (VYoMb)
Supposedly, Russia tracks his movements. He likes to visit drone construction areas, drone control areas, military staging areas, etc. and they use that for targeting. Supposedly.
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If you wanted to stop the missiles without escalating things with Nato/ US then that would be the best option. Take the Israel approach ... target the leaders one at a time.
Posted by: Wardo at November 19, 2024 04:45 PM (VYoMb)
BRICS even if it remans a trade system will also reduce US clout everywhere else in the world too.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (n7h9X)
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Yeah, I am sure they will try - but it is wildly inefficient to do it at scale. There is a reason why everything moves by rail - and putting together the infrastructure to do it there would be pretty difficult. Doesn't mean they won't try. Just expensive as hell.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:45 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:41 PM (AAvt3)
Probably not that many-if any-on ASHQ- do.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 19, 2024 04:45 PM (RHx3V)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at November 19, 2024 04:45 PM (pIfcn)
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2024 04:45 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (GZYu7)
Posted by: bonhomme at November 19, 2024 04:43 PM (Odg76)
The UK has one spot in the country in London where you have 1st amendment rights by tradition, Speakers Corner in some park in London. I hear the Muslims have blocked access to it for years now.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Anna Puma
WTF?
Posted by: Bulg at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (v6JzV)
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 19, 2024 04:33 PM (Z8Yh2)
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You too, huh?
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (DRSnL)
We can make Bulg watch it with us at the next TX MoMee.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (KcwUg)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic
I stuffed myself with a banana once. Underwhelming.
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (cKUGv)
Somebody’s being playing Fallout their last days in office I see.
Posted by: H at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (4N/0w)
new hotness: Baba Vanga !
Posted by: runner at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: Bilwis "
That's where the nerds have sex with it.
Posted by: eleven at November 19, 2024 04:47 PM (fV+MH)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:47 PM (KcwUg)
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Probably not that many-if any-on ASHQ- do.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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If it weren't discussed and compatibility or something similar just casually came up in a conversation among the girls?
I'd absolutely take that bet.
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:47 PM (AAvt3)
Let's put it this way: If the Kaiser had conquered Europe, would things have been worse?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2024 04:47 PM (Hh1ER)
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Oh fuck - wheels within wheels.
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 19, 2024 04:48 PM (jFCkp)
Posted by: Black JEM at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (GZYu7)
They are working on one, and have enhanced the ability to make trades in local moneys and banks.
Nobody in the world outside or elite saw the humor in the west stealing Russia's money since it might be their turn next.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:48 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Peppermint Mocha! at November 19, 2024 04:48 PM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Moron Robbie at November 19, 2024 04:41 PM (AAvt3)
Yeah, I don't get it either, but then again, I grew up so Protestant that dances were not allowed at my high school (still aren't IIRC).
Posted by: pookysgirl prefers actual astronomy at November 19, 2024 04:48 PM (dtlDP)
BRICS even if it remans a trade system will also reduce US clout everywhere else in the world too.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:42 PM (n7h9X)
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No doubt, I don't believe Brazil and India would join in anything militarily, but United States of Sanctions has given a lot of countries an incentive to build other financial networks.
Hubris has a price.
I don't like all the Chinese ports sprouting up around South America either.
People talk about the Monroe Doctrine a lot but we haven't given that any serious effort in forty years.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:48 PM (6ydKt)
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The waiters in Paris would be moar polite?
Posted by: Pudinhead at November 19, 2024 04:49 PM (jFCkp)
Posted by: Anna Puma
They were? Well, they sure did a shitty job of it.
Posted by: Gavril Princip at November 19, 2024 04:49 PM (sAmhv)
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls
The Millennium Falcon is so sexy and cool. Where would you fuck it anyway? THERE (points at notch) I've done it!
Posted by: Mr. Plinkett at November 19, 2024 04:50 PM (cKUGv)
Its like people who follow polls religiously or people who try to use the Biblical apocalyptic literature to predict the future. People want to know ahead of time what will happen so they can take advantage of it or protect themselves. But that is not ours to know.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2024 04:51 PM (Hh1ER)
Democrats Accuse Every Trump Cabinet Nominee of Sexual Abuse -- One Woman's Horrible Story
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 19, 2024 04:51 PM (ZlOcj)
Posted by: Anna Puma
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Yep. By extension we were jumping in on the side of Serbia.
A thorny point that should have been more seriously considered before we sent 100,000 boys to their death.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:52 PM (wzAuc)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 19, 2024 04:46 PM (KcwUg)
No...it should be a prerequisite to attendance.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 19, 2024 04:52 PM (d9fT1)
Posted by: Don Black at November 19, 2024 04:35 PM (/7KEl)
Have you been asleep the last 20 years? The communists run America now.
Pop quiz, name the country, United States or Russia:
- the government can take your son away for refusing to give him puberty blockers?
- far-left street cadres torch city blocks and drag people from their cars?
- saying that two men fisting one another is not “love” is a hate crime that will get you fired?
- the government makes you pay tax for your own house, turning you into a renter and stealing your house if you fall behind on payments?
- schools teach that white people are the source of all evil?
I could go on and on.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:52 PM (FC8SQ)
Let's put it this way: If the Kaiser had conquered Europe, would things have been worse?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2024 04:47 PM (Hh1ER)
Well, by that time the Kaiser was pretty impotent as a decision maker and Germany had occupied all of Ukraine and a bit more. The East front was a complete military dictatorship run by Hindenburg. To win they would have had to take and occupy a good part of France to Paris. German diplomacy has been crap since Bismarck was fired. Not sure of how happy a world that would be.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:54 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 19, 2024 04:54 PM (PQclV)
I could go on and on.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 19, 2024 04:52 PM (FC8SQ)
Putin mentioned this before the war in one of his marathon press conferences, how the US was acting like the USSR.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 04:55 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2024 04:51 PM (Hh1ER)
I believe Revelation is going to literally happen on earth.
I also believe that I'm no where near smart enough to guess when or how its going to happen, given that the Jews read the Old Testament religiously (get it??) but didn't, and still don't recognize Jesus.
Also, when the Son Himself says that He doesn't know the day or the hour, there is less than zero chance that I'll figure it out.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 19, 2024 04:55 PM (N1DT3)
Do not underestimate how much growing up through the Cold War fucked up a couple generations. It formed their world view.
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:23 PM (8EEJj)
As one who grew up during the Cold War, I never believed that crap. Along with the infamous "Domino Theory".
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at November 19, 2024 04:56 PM (iODuv)
Posted by: Cheri at November 19, 2024 04:59 PM (oiNtH)
A thorny point that should have been more seriously considered before we sent 100,000 boys to their death.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 19, 2024 04:52 PM (wzAuc)
AH sent an ultimatum to Serbia that was seen as hugely harsh and overblown so that they could not accept it, except they did -- almost. They said that one demand, I think it was letting AH take over their police or something to investigate the terrorists and Serbian involvement, was against the constitution. If AH had done a compromise on that, such as AH observation of a Serbian investigation, a war might not be needed. But AH wanted the war so it progressed.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 05:00 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: wth at November 19, 2024 05:00 PM (v0R5T)
I think that's the perfect illustration: God gave us everything we needed to know how the incarnation would work but nobody, NOBODY got it right. I believe it will be the same with the second coming. Its going to happen in a way nobody expects or understands, but will make perfect sense.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 19, 2024 05:03 PM (Hh1ER)
Do not underestimate how much growing up through the Cold War fucked up a couple generations. It formed their world view.
Posted by: Same Old Same Old at November 19, 2024 04:23 PM (8EEJj)
Hey, I am one of those cold warriors. These Neocon assholes are fake as shit and trying to wear anti USSR as a skin suit.
Russia is not the USSR. Pushing them out of European affairs like we did in the late 90s was a huge mistake.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 05:03 PM (n7h9X)
People talk about the Monroe Doctrine a lot but we haven't given that any serious effort in forty years.
Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 19, 2024 04:48 PM (6ydKt)
Well we had all those years to build Western ports in all those areas and somehow didn't get around to it. Can't complain about it now.
Monroe doctrine was about keeping Europeans out.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 19, 2024 05:07 PM (n7h9X)
Posted by: JTP at November 19, 2024 05:19 PM (HO3T6)
This is just desperate men doing desperate things before the clock runs out for them, and Putin ain't desperate.
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If I had ten cents for every dollar ... wait ...
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Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)