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First-World Problems...

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Do you see the problem?

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NOW DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM?

The same person who used the tip of my 10" filet knife as a pry bar probably did this. Which begs the question: is abuse of tools a capital crime? Because if it isn't, it should be!

The struggle is real.

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 02:01 PM (fwDg9)

2 Children and coworkers have been doing these things, and worse, to my tools for decades.

Posted by: Holmes at November 17, 2024 02:02 PM (zhWvq)

3 Hammer it flat, good as new

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 02:03 PM (fwDg9)

4 God be with you in this difficult time.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at November 17, 2024 02:03 PM (SbH7z)

5
What metal did they use for those pliers? Solder?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2024 02:03 PM (dxSpM)

6 1WP:

The Chiefs game and the Broncos game are at the same time

Posted by: Don Black at November 17, 2024 02:04 PM (/7KEl)

7 Well, it's abuse of capital. Your tools are your working capital, aren't they?

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at November 17, 2024 02:04 PM (Nmmyc)

8
Dad used to "fix" things around the house with a....

butterknife.

Over the years we ended up with ALL our butterknives with janked-up tips.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (uYy3Y)

9

It looks like some food residue on the tips.
I wonder if this is one of those 'I certainly didn't do scenarios?'

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (caloI)

10 Put the curled side in a vise. Bend it back.
Fixed!

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (3wi/L)

11 Don't buy shit at Harbor Freight?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (Q4IgG)

12 So...just the tip?

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 02:06 PM (W/lyH)

13
Everyone:

What's In Your Kitchen Junk Drawer right now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:06 PM (uYy3Y)

14 What the hell did they pry with that?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2024 02:06 PM (bss/y)

15 "The same person who used the tip of my 10" filet knife as a pry bar probably did this. Which begs the question: is abuse of tools a capital crime? Because if it isn't, it should be!"

Hmmm, I am guessing the wife...

And then the murders began.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2024 02:07 PM (bss/y)

16 Yes, abuse of tools is a crime!

I eventually wised up and got my wife her own toolset.

My tools do not get abused, and my tools are not left up at school because she needed them for several projects.

Win/win!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 17, 2024 02:07 PM (HlyYF)

17 Not everything marked "swiss" is super high quality. Might not even be Swiss-made.

If the pliers are good steel, they will survive being bent back to shape. I have been known to bend or otherwise alter tools to make them perform as specific task. Man is a tool-making animal, after all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:08 PM (yHEow)

18 Don't buy shit at Harbor Freight?
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Saw a comparison of open end wrenches, Harbor Freight vs Snap On.
The Snap On open end wouldn't fit the hex bar the guy used to show the fit of the HF one.
Funny as hell.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 02:08 PM (caloI)

19 Baltimore Pittsburgh is boring af. And it's my only option.

Killmenow.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (osIkN)

20 sweet weepin jeebus

Lamarr Jackson couldn't hit water from a boat

Posted by: Don Black at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (/7KEl)

21 First, you make a rudimentary lathe……..

Posted by: Eromero at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (LHPAg)

22 The Swiss should stick to chocolates.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (NpAcC)

23 I eventually wised up and got my wife her own toolset.

My tools do not get abused, and my tools are not left up at school because she needed them for several projects.

Win/win!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 17, 2024 02:07 PM (HlyYF)
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Also a backup place to find that 11 mm socket.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (W/lyH)

24 Tip of my butcher knife is not there any more.

Posted by: Braenyard read, some animals are more equal than others at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (tRs7o)

25
What's worse than a women who makes dry brownies?

What's the secret to moist brownies?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:10 PM (uYy3Y)

26 And you STILL loaned him that tool AFTER what he did to your filet knife … ? Nonononono. That's 'Banned-for-Life' when it comes to any future tool loans. That's why God made Home Depot and Lowe's ...

Posted by: Dr_No at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (ayRl+)

27
You know what's funny?

Our very own "garrett" probably makes the best brownies of anyone here.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (uYy3Y)

28 Chilly, drippy and windy out here on the beach.

I'm doing laundry, making beef soup and just cracked open a Jubelale from dechutes brewery.

Yummy!

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (kymiW)

29 I miss craftsman brand tools at Sears. They would give you a replacement. Lifetime warranty.

Posted by: High Tech at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (37cEZ)

30 Looks like someone used the jaw on the right for prying. Stick it in the vise and bend the jaw until it is mostly straight. Then close the jaws together and tap them with a hammer on your anvil. Then do a little grinding to get the jaws aligned on the side. After that heat them up until cherry red with a #0 tip on your oxy-acetylene torch and quench in oil. Then, throw them away and go buy some new ones.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (KJ3hR)

31 My 1WP is should be collecting leaves as it's still outside and decent temperatures but taking it easy today.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 02:14 PM (fwDg9)

32 Saw a comparison of open end wrenches, Harbor Freight vs Snap On.
The Snap On open end wouldn't fit the hex bar the guy used to show the fit of the HF one.
Funny as hell.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 02:08 PM (caloI)

That could be gamed either way. Wrenches have to have an opening a little larger than their nominal size, so that they can be easily slipped over the fastener hex. What that tells me is that the Snap-On wrench was manufactured to a slightly tighter tolerance than the HF one. Does that make it better? Maybe. Does that make it enough better to justify the huge difference in price? Maybe not.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:14 PM (yHEow)

33 So, CBD, no more eyebrow plucking till this is replaced?

You got that Brezhnev look?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:14 PM (js3aQ)

34 >>> miss craftsman brand tools at Sears. They would give you a replacement. Lifetime warranty.
Posted by: High Tech at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (37cEZ)

======

Yep. No receipt needed. Just grabbed one off the shelf and handed it to me.

Posted by: Turn 2 at November 17, 2024 02:14 PM (JfxgE)

35 FWP...Xmas lights.

My hatred of putting up Xmas lights burns with the heat of a thousand suns. I started early this year as it wasn't raining. Took about four hours to put up half of what I was forced to put up last year.
Hate it.
No more. No more ladders. No more busted lights. No more getting poked in the ass by the damned shrubbery.
I'm done.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 02:15 PM (W/lyH)

36 Quality tool are usually smaller and stronger than cheaper tools.
One can get that SnapOn into that tight spot easier and have more room to work it. Also using that long cheater pipe is less likely to break it.

Posted by: Braenyard read, some animals are more equal than others at November 17, 2024 02:15 PM (tRs7o)

37 >>> miss craftsman brand tools at Sears. They would give you a replacement. Lifetime warranty.
Posted by: High Tech at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (37cEZ)

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Yep. No receipt needed. Just grabbed one off the shelf and handed it to me.
Posted by: Turn 2 at November 17, 2024 02:14 PM (JfxgE)
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Sears.

Didn't they go bankrupt or something?

Thanks a lot, people!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:15 PM (js3aQ)

38 Steelers are getting in a lot of practice punting

Posted by: Don Black at November 17, 2024 02:16 PM (/7KEl)

39 I look for garden-versions of kitchen tools. They're much stronger. I have some pliers like that designed to root out dandelions. The jaws are ridged from top to bottome. They're very strong.

Posted by: Wenda at November 17, 2024 02:16 PM (QuymX)

40 >>> 25
What's worse than a women who makes dry brownies?

What's the secret to moist brownies?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:10 PM (uYy3Y)

The Deplorable Gourmet, page 54.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 02:16 PM (KcwUg)

41 Gonna have to dip into your Swiss plier account and get a replacement.

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 17, 2024 02:17 PM (NMT5x)

42 Craftsman tools still exist as a zombie brand. Lowes, I think? Now, simply a better grade of Chinesium than the standard grade of Chinesium. Comparable to the better grade of HF tools, perhaps.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:17 PM (yHEow)

43 My 1WP is should be collecting leaves as it's still outside and decent temperatures but taking it easy today.

Mine is starting the annual pre-installation inventory of the Xmas lights. Yes, I will put them up, but no, I won't turn them on until TG eve.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 17, 2024 02:17 PM (xCA6C)

44 What's the secret to moist brownies?

My colostomy bag is full of moist brownies.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 17, 2024 02:18 PM (moBQS)

45 No more. No more ladders. No more busted lights. No more getting poked in the ass by the damned shrubbery.
I'm done.


This year saw an explosion of flyers advertising Xmas light installation. Obviously, it's a way for the lawn service crews to keep busy during winter. Presumably, you'll also pay them to take the lights down.

I'm not there yet. I don't know that I'll ever be there.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 17, 2024 02:19 PM (xCA6C)

46 What's the secret to moist brownies?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:10 PM (uYy3Y)
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Um, um, um....

The fudge topping?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:19 PM (js3aQ)

47 19 Baltimore Pittsburgh is boring af. And it's my only option.

Killmenow.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (osIkN)

-- --

You don't have a FOX station near you?
Packers at Bears on the one in my market.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at November 17, 2024 02:19 PM (6ydKt)

48 Then, throw them away and go buy some new ones.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 17, 2024 02:13 PM (KJ3hR)

This funny.

Posted by: Shitcommenter at November 17, 2024 02:19 PM (4qKYA)

49 My Christmas lights are a single strand across the front patio. I have hooks mounted under the eaves and a broom handle with its own hook to place the strand.

Ta-da!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 02:19 PM (KcwUg)

50 44
'My colostomy bag is full of moist brownies.'

You usually aren't funny but that one got me.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 17, 2024 02:19 PM (3wi/L)

51 > My hatred of putting up Xmas lights burns with the heat of a thousand suns.
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Dad......?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 17, 2024 02:20 PM (Q4IgG)

52 Might have to burn Switzerland to the ground, and start over.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at November 17, 2024 02:20 PM (a1415)

53 Obviously that's that Pterodactyl filet knife.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 17, 2024 02:21 PM (/y7Fe)

54 Jets Colts is a crime mitigated only by the Jets participating.

Posted by: Accomack in Jamaica at November 17, 2024 02:21 PM (IG7T0)

55 I rarely throw out damaged tools, unless they are completely destroyed. Sometimes a damaged wrench can be repurposed to make a specialty tool.

I needed an oddball flare nut wrench once to change fuel injector lines on a Chevy 6.2 Diesel. Got a cheap six-point socket the right size, and welded it into the eye of a cheap combination wrench, and slit it to go over the tube. Worked fine. I stall have it in my wrench drawer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:21 PM (yHEow)

56 Nurse ratched

https://top.buffstreams.app/

Posted by: Don Black at November 17, 2024 02:21 PM (/7KEl)

57 Wife had a 10" chefs knife she used to dig with, maneuver hot coats and chop bones. It was her kitchen bitch.
She now has a cleaver, steel tongs and proper shovels.

Posted by: Accomack in Jamaica at November 17, 2024 02:23 PM (IG7T0)

58 I quit putting up Christmas lights a couple years ago. The LED strand(s) that purported to stay lit even if one light went bad didn't. I spent two hours in bitterly cold weather trying to replace this tiny fucking little LED with no luck in getting the strand to light up.

Tore everything down, cussing the whole time.

My wife drove off to the mall for a couple hours while all this was going on.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 17, 2024 02:23 PM (Q4IgG)

59 What's the secret to moist brownies?
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:10 PM


* makes 'call me' sign *

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at November 17, 2024 02:23 PM (a3Q+t)

60 Ok, tool-ish question; I have some garden shovels and such that have been neglected so I want to sand and re-finish the blades. WTF do I use on the metal? It isn't just plain bluing, is it?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 02:23 PM (KcwUg)

61 So, CBD, no more eyebrow plucking till this is replaced?

You got that Brezhnev look?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:14 PM (js3aQ)

Okay...I laughed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:24 PM (d9fT1)

62 Don’t lend your tools and you won’t have those problems. FWP here in Cowtown…installed the garage vent fan yesterday and today it’s kinda cool and crappy so I don’t need to run it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 17, 2024 02:24 PM (3Ope8)

63 Holy shite- a touchdown has been scored!

Posted by: Don Black at November 17, 2024 02:24 PM (/7KEl)

64 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 02:08 PM (caloI)

By the way, I found that keyless drill chuck that you needed. I also have a keyed one that might fit. Will try to remember to bring with me, when I go South.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:24 PM (yHEow)

65 She now has a cleaver, steel tongs and proper shovels.
Posted by: Accomack in Jamaica at November 17, 2024 02:23 PM (IG7T0)
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Who's the beneficiary on you policy?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:24 PM (js3aQ)

66 That's the classic needle nose used as a wrench for tightening on a hex nut (probably 4-40) slippage damage.

If a tech ever did that and put it back in the drawer looking like that he would be beaten to death in the parking lot back in the day.

Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:25 PM (QB+5g)

67 Ok, tool-ish question; I have some garden shovels and such that have been neglected so I want to sand and re-finish the blades. WTF do I use on the metal? It isn't just plain bluing, is it?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 02:23 PM (KcwUg)

Mostly, they are just painted.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:26 PM (yHEow)

68 > What's the secret to moist brownies?

allrecipes.com/recipe/10549/best-brownies/

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2024 02:26 PM (K639x)

69 Time to get on with my day. Brunch is over.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:27 PM (yHEow)

70 So, CBD, no more eyebrow plucking till this is replaced?

You got that Brezhnev look?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:14 PM (js3aQ)

Okay...I laughed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:24 PM (d9fT1)
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Now I cannot get you outta my head!

https://tinyurl.com/2fb6wjdb

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:27 PM (js3aQ)

71 My first world problem: None of the comments on older threads, where comments were hosted on minx.cc, are visible. I wanted to see when I started posting, but I cannot get them to load.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 02:27 PM (VNX3d)

72 Late, saw pliars problem immediately. Definitely a capital crime. But always committed anonymously, so never any satisfaction.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 17, 2024 02:27 PM (4780s)

73 Amazon, I suppose. I don't see how UPS makes money off Amazon, or any of the shipping companies for that matter..
Chief Bills or 49ers Seahawks @4

Posted by: Accomack in Jamaica at November 17, 2024 02:28 PM (IG7T0)

74 I don't miss football, keep thinking I should watch a Eagles game but u hen don't get around to it.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 02:29 PM (fwDg9)

75 #8 butter knives. I'm sure it pissed off your mother no end, but "things getting fixed". Again, no satisfaction.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 17, 2024 02:30 PM (4780s)

76 Stiff wire brush and proper storage.
Dirt is very abrasive to any finish.
A shovel is not a spatula.

Posted by: Accomack in Jamaica at November 17, 2024 02:31 PM (IG7T0)

77 WTF do I use on the metal? It isn't just plain bluing, is it?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Once you clean them up just store them by pushing the blade into a bucket of oil impregnated sand.
(Popular Mechanics years and years ago)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 02:31 PM (caloI)

78 By the way, I found that keyless drill chuck that you needed. I also have a keyed one that might fit. Will try to remember to bring with me, when I go South.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Excellent!
I'll have the beer ready!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 02:31 PM (caloI)

79 Over the years we ended up with ALL our butterknives with janked-up tips.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (uYy3Y)


And when you have a relative who like to hot-knife hash . . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:32 PM (D7oie)

80 when I go South.

I been "going south" awhile now.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 17, 2024 02:34 PM (moBQS)

81 Arrived after a trip where a house sitter stayed in our home to find the tip of my favorite knife broken off.

Posted by: jix at November 17, 2024 02:34 PM (VghtP)

82 My (now solved) FWP: a guy borrowed my sawzall, and returned it - with the blade broken off flush with the housing. Thank you! Grrrrr.

I eventually managed to extract the broken-off blade, but WTF? Who does that?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2024 02:35 PM (YqDXo)

83 77.
Read that article!!!
I skip a step by pouring motor oil on the ground and leaving my shovels stuck in the dirt.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at November 17, 2024 02:35 PM (kC27n)

84 A shovel is not a speculum.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 17, 2024 02:35 PM (moBQS)

85 My Mom worked at Motorola soldering radios and such, back when I was a kid. I now have a couple needle nose pliers from there, which I recall in our tool drawer (by the fridge) from back in those days.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 17, 2024 02:36 PM (Cus5s)

86 NOW DO YOU SEE THE PROBLEM?

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Aieeeeee!!!!
Terrible

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 17, 2024 02:36 PM (WL2lA)

87 I feel ya, CBD, coz no scissors are safe from my hubby

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 17, 2024 02:37 PM (WL2lA)

88 Please, CBD, if one doesn't have at least one pair of needle nose pliers with one tip bent, one doesn't own a "real" tool box.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:37 PM (tT6L1)

89 84.
Truth.

But anything is a suppository if you push hard enough.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at November 17, 2024 02:38 PM (kC27n)

90 I agree with your sentiment, but that isn't what begging the question means.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 17, 2024 02:38 PM (6mvRv)

91 71 My first world problem: None of the comments on older threads, where comments were hosted on minx.cc, are visible. I wanted to see when I started posting, but I cannot get them to load.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf


You need the Super-Secret Pixy URL decoder ring. Requires two double-A batteries and a sledgehammer.

Copy the post number from the minx URL and precede it with acecomments.mu.nu/?post=

Why Pixy has ignored my pleas to fix the various link problems on Ace acknowledges my lowly status. It would be handy, for example, to have next post & last post links on comments pages. But, no-ooo.

Posted by: mindful webworker - troubleshooter? Surrrre at November 17, 2024 02:38 PM (F4RBN)

92 Got a few of these: (amz)

tinyurl.com/yx8cf246

Makes me feel better, but doesn't really help.

The same " "people" " what mistreat tools, also don't usually ask permission to use them.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 02:40 PM (njWTi)

93 Please, CBD, if one doesn't have at least one pair of needle nose pliers with one tip bent, one doesn't own a "real" tool box.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:37 PM (tT6L1)

This is a very good point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:41 PM (d9fT1)

94 "Why Pixy has ignored my pleas to fix the various link problems on Ace acknowledges my lowly status. It would be handy, for example, to have next post & last post links on comments pages. But, no-ooo."

Part of the charm of this place is you can't prove anybody said anything more than a couple of days ago.

Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:41 PM (QB+5g)

95 that isn't what begging the question means.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 17, 2024 02:38 PM (6mvRv)

Hmmm....I think a natural answer to damaging someone else's tools is capital punishment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:42 PM (d9fT1)

96 Ok, tool-ish question; I have some garden shovels and such that have been neglected so I want to sand and re-finish the blades. WTF do I use on the metal? It isn't just plain bluing, is it?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 02:23 PM (KcwUg)


There are a number of finishes that are appropriate. You can use rustoleum stove paint, though that wears off quickly
You can get the handle off while you are cleaning it, and heat it very hot and mop on linseed oil to get a finish similar to the finish on cast iron.
You can also use any of the bluing/browning metal fishishes.
You can stick it in a tub of salty water and let it rust outside a couple of days on a humid day, then use coarse steel wool to knock down the rust, and then coat it with linseed oil. You can also scrub it with naval jelly for a similar finish

Generally, though, these will all wear off as you use the shovel and you can also save time by just keeping the metal clean by cleaning it after using it, and not worrying too much about the flash rush on the bare metal, it will turn into a "plum brown" finish on its own. Keep the handle oiled with linseed and mop the blade with it once in a while too.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:43 PM (D7oie)

97 First the tools.
Then small animals.
Eventually serial killer.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 17, 2024 02:43 PM (moBQS)

98 22 The Swiss should stick to chocolates.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 17, 2024 02:09 PM (NpAcC)


Yeah!

Posted by: Wisconsin Cheese Makers Association (established 1891) at November 17, 2024 02:43 PM (PiwSw)

99 Trump Trauma Unit: A Hospital for Trump Derangement Syndrome youtu.be/MPeComsl6KI?si=AQz-A5boqyGUAK9h

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at November 17, 2024 02:44 PM (9aVck)

100 Buy each type of screwdriver by the half-dozen. If one gets misused as CBD's was, you have a spare ready to go. If you lose one, you have a spare ready to go. Put one in each toolbox, kitchen junk drawer, and in your glove box. Put the rest in a footlocker with PLIERS stenciled in 6-inch letters, in International Orange, on all six sides. Pliers are tools hard to replace in a pinch with a hammer, screwdriver, knife, fork, spoon, or duct tape. On second thought, buy 10 of each!

Posted by: Gref at November 17, 2024 02:44 PM (aBgBM)

101 My Dad bought me an all-in-one Craftsman screwdriver. My then-boyfriend was going to use it to open a paint can. I told him to hang on while I grabbed the paint-can opener because I didn't want him to break my screwdriver.

"I'm not going to break it," he scoffed MILLISECONDS before breaking it.

Because Kmart was going put of business, there was no equal replacement. He gave me his dad's old Craftsman regular screwdriver instead.

Needless to say, I did not let him borrow my "beater" (his words) car when his truck was in the shop.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 02:44 PM (wiEf1)

102 OT.

I crated a Venn Diagram of sad Kamala voters and people still wearing face diapers at the Boise Airport.


O

Posted by: Sifty Boones at November 17, 2024 02:44 PM (eciYk)

103 Part of the charm of this place is you can't prove anybody said anything more than a couple of days ago.
Posted by: pawn


For certain values of "charm." Like many other charming "features." Or lack thereof.

Posted by: mindful webworker - what exactly is second world? at November 17, 2024 02:44 PM (F4RBN)

104
Hmmm....I think a natural answer to damaging someone else's tools is capital punishment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:42 PM (d9fT1)
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I damage a tool own by someone else it means I've acquired a damaged tool and the person who loaned the tool receives a new one.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (tT6L1)

105 A shovel is not a speculum.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 17, 2024 02:35 PM (moBQS)


this is a "your Mom" joke, isn't it?

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (D7oie)

106 This is a very good point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:41 PM (d9fT1)
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Pun?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (js3aQ)

107 @95 CBD, I agree, you don't play around with another man's tools.

Posted by: Blacksheep at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM (6mvRv)

108 "Hey, we're building toasters not helicopters for chris sake"

Things I've heard on the shop floor.

Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM (QB+5g)

109 81 Arrived after a trip where a house sitter stayed in our home to find the tip of my favorite knife broken off.

Posted by: jix at November 17, 2024 02:34 PM (VghtP)

I have a paring knife that ended up with a broken tip not long ago. Someone (monthly house cleaners) dropped it on its tip. Sent it back to Cutco and they sent a new one within a week.

Posted by: Javems at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM (8I4hW)

110 10 Put the curled side in a vise. Bend it back.
Fixed!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (3wi/L)

Would that really work?

Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:47 PM (VnUSN)

111 "Hey, we're building toasters not helicopters for chris sake"

Things I've heard on the shop floor.
Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM (QB+5g)
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Sikorsky toasters are the best!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:47 PM (js3aQ)

112 I made up a Borrow Box of cheap chynah wrenches & sockets & misc, after a certain (sarc: on) Friend (sarc: off) keep "losing" the tools he'd "borrowed"...

Somehow, *those* tools never got lost. Huh...

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 02:47 PM (njWTi)

113 110 10 Put the curled side in a vise. Bend it back.
Fixed!
Posted by: Dr. Claw at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (3wi/L)

Would that really work?
Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:47 PM (VnUSN)

Or maybe you would need to slap hot iron to it?

Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:48 PM (VnUSN)

114 Over the years we ended up with ALL our butterknives with janked-up tips.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:05 PM (uYy3Y)

And when you have a relative who like to hot-knife hash . . . .
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:32 PM

Is that like wrecking spoons while heating up drugs?

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 02:48 PM (wiEf1)

115 This seems to be an issue where "slap hot iron to it" may actually be part of the fix...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 17, 2024 02:48 PM (PiwSw)

116 A shovel is not a speculum.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism

Wasn't there a SNL skit long ago featuring a 'Dr.' manipulating a speculum to make it 'talk'?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 02:48 PM (WXNFJ)

117 So who had start WW III on their late Biden administration to do list?

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 17, 2024 02:49 PM (/y7Fe)

118 "Hey, we're building toasters not helicopters for chris sake"

Things I've heard on the shop floor.
Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM (QB+5g)
____________________

Said of carpentry: "Hey, we're not making a Stradivarius here."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2024 02:49 PM (YqDXo)

119 Ah, the wages of tool abuse.

Posted by: Weasel at November 17, 2024 02:49 PM (fghTy)

120 Speculums don't "talk."

They quack.

Duh.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 02:49 PM (qO9hU)

121 113 Or maybe you would need to slap hot iron to it?
Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:48 PM (VnUSN)

115 This seems to be an issue where "slap hot iron to it" may actually be part of the fix...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 17, 2024 02:48 PM (PiwSw)

Simultaneous slap-hot-iron-to-it mentioning!

Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:49 PM (VnUSN)

122 So who had start WW III on their late Biden administration to do list?
Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 17, 2024 02:49 PM (/y7Fe)
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Reminder: check who's pulling the strings. It ain't Biden!

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM (js3aQ)

123 Why Pixy has ignored my pleas to fix the various link problems on Ace acknowledges my lowly status.

Posted by: mindful webworker - troubleshooter? Surrrre at November 17, 2024 02:38 PM (F4RBN)


Trust me; it has nothing to do with your supposed lowly status.

He ignores repeated requests from Ace and the cobloggers too.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM (d9fT1)

124 104 I damage a tool own by someone else it means I've acquired a damaged tool and the person who loaned the tool receives a new one.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (tT6L1)

... of equal or greater value.

Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM (VnUSN)

125 This is a very good point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:41 PM (d9fT1)
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Pun?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (js3aQ)


It may be a little off center...

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM (W/lyH)

126 ... of equal or greater value.
Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM (VnUSN)
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yup.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:51 PM (tT6L1)

127 I damage a tool own by someone else it means I've acquired a damaged tool and the person who loaned the tool receives a new one.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (tT6L1)

... of equal or greater value.

Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM


Word.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 17, 2024 02:51 PM (QNSds)

128 Hey, we're building toasters not helicopters for chris sake"

Things I've heard on the shop floor.
Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM

My dad's family used to say, "We're not hanging cabinets" when measuring for imperfect surfaces. Hilarious when one of my bros said while trying to hang new cabinets on an uneven wall in his fixer-upper.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 02:52 PM (wiEf1)

129 Woman walks into a bakery, and there is no one out front to take her order. She walks in back and finds the baker crimping a pie with his false teeth.
"My goodness," she exclaims. "Don't you have a tool?"
"Sure," replies the baker, "but I use that on the doughnuts."

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 17, 2024 02:52 PM (wBaIH)

130 This is a very good point.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 17, 2024 02:41 PM (d9fT1)
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Pun?
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (js3aQ)


It may be a little off center...
Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM (W/lyH)
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CBD's twisted sense of humor?

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:53 PM (js3aQ)

131 "Hey, we're building toasters not helicopters for chris sake"
Things I've heard on the shop floor.
Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM (QB+5g)


I have a Sunbeam AT-W toaster with the last patent date of 1965, that has no external lever: you drop a slice of bread in it, it slowly lowers it, toasts it and slowly brings it back up to be retrieved. It is the coolest appliance I have ever seen.

Every other toaster has been dull, and pointless and felt like it was made to be thrown away yearly, ALL TOASTERS SHOULD BE THIS COOL, DAMMIT!

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:53 PM (D7oie)

132 131

We used to be a proper country.

Posted by: Sifty Boones at November 17, 2024 02:55 PM (dk2mF)

133 I damage a tool own by someone else it means I've acquired a damaged tool and the person who loaned the tool receives a new one.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (tT6L1)

... of equal or greater value.
Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM

This. Clearly you Morons are good neighbors and excellent husbands.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 02:55 PM (wiEf1)

134 "For certain values of "charm." Like many other charming "features." Or lack thereof."
________________

I'm sure that a lot of the "lack thereof" keeps us reasonably safe from certain kinds of cyber-trash.

And it's not that hard to figure out how to access old comments, even derpy idjits --like me!-- can do it.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 02:55 PM (njWTi)

135 87 I feel ya, CBD, coz no scissors are safe from my hubby
Posted by: vmom deport deport deport
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Have 99¢ Harbor Freight scissors in every room - usually not too far from my readers.

Posted by: Braenyard read, some animals are more equal than others at November 17, 2024 02:55 PM (tRs7o)

136 Kindolot, haven't thought of hot knifing in years. Not just hash, but roaches when short.

Posted by: From about That Time at November 17, 2024 02:55 PM (4780s)

137 Every other toaster has been dull, and pointless and felt like it was made to be thrown away yearly, ALL TOASTERS SHOULD BE THIS COOL, DAMMIT!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:53 PM (D7oie)


We actually left that at your house during a field trip. Sorry about that.

Posted by: Aliens from the Future at November 17, 2024 02:55 PM (PiwSw)

138 I damage a tool own by someone else it means I've acquired a damaged tool and the person who loaned the tool receives a new one.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at November 17, 2024 02:45 PM (tT6L1)

... of equal or greater value.
Posted by: m at November 17, 2024 02:50 PM

This. Clearly you Morons are good neighbors and excellent husbands.
Posted by: NaughtyPine

These guys get it!

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 02:56 PM (njWTi)

139 Vibes online of the FBI planning bad things:

https://tinyurl.com/yc5ff2hf

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 02:56 PM (js3aQ)

140 We used to be a proper country.
Posted by: Sifty Boones at November 17, 2024 02:55 PM (dk2mF)


*Must not go on rant about fiat currency and built in inflation . . .*

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:56 PM (D7oie)

141 Find out who did this and have them pry in back using a vise grip while berating them.

. . . .Unless you are trying to pass off your evil deed on some poor, unsuspecting slob. If so, then that is the way of the Horde.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 17, 2024 02:56 PM (icmmM)

142 Sautéed veggies in beef tallow before adding in stock and beef.

The stock was made from stock with roasted beef bones. Now it's in the pressure cooker with beef rib bows that have a lot of meat still on them and more veggies. Will strain, pull the meat off the bones and add to the veggies in the pot.

Smells really good.

Posted by: nurse ratched, garbage at November 17, 2024 02:56 PM (+8HoB)

143 Pic is the best reason why after a lifetime of using tools to fix things I don't loan my stuff at all. Unless, as was stated, you promise to replace anything you break or otherwise ruin.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at November 17, 2024 02:58 PM (hKoQL)

144 Every other toaster has been dull, and pointless and felt like it was made to be thrown away yearly, ALL TOASTERS SHOULD BE THIS COOL, DAMMIT!
Posted by: Kindltot

The old tools are the best. I have an ancient (Pre-Cambrian Era) Vacuum Jar Cap Lifter - "Miracle" by name. It's a combination beer bottle cap remover, lid lifter, and screw driver. I use this thing all the time.

I think I picked it up when I was going to a ton of estate auctions and bidding on boxes of knickknacks and paddywhacks.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 02:58 PM (WXNFJ)

145 Bought Mrs. Athens her own tool set. They are bright pink. She loves them.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 17, 2024 02:59 PM (icmmM)

146 you guys will be happy to know the new Miss Universe is an anatomically correct woman

https://tinyurl.com/yc7nv23k

Posted by: Don Black at November 17, 2024 02:59 PM (/7KEl)

147 I have a Sunbeam AT-W toaster with the last patent date of 1965, that has no external lever: you drop a slice of bread in it, it slowly lowers it, toasts it and slowly brings it back up to be retrieved. It is the coolest appliance I have ever seen.

Every other toaster has been dull, and pointless and felt like it was made to be thrown away yearly, ALL TOASTERS SHOULD BE THIS COOL, DAMMIT!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:53 PM

I had one like that. Parents' wedding present. Wires corroded a few years ago and couldn't be fixed. I replaced it with a toaster oven because all new toasters are wrong.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 02:59 PM (wiEf1)

148 I have gone to using steel handled shovels, both round and square. Haven't had to replace the handle on my Newcastle drainer yet.

Posted by: Miflin at November 17, 2024 02:59 PM (aA6YN)

149 The cheat is still on:

https://tinyurl.com/4tyh75fc

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 03:00 PM (js3aQ)

150
They only bend your tools? Lucky guy.
Mine disappear. Never to be seen again!

Posted by: naturalfake at November 17, 2024 03:00 PM (eDfFs)

151 91 71 My first world problem: None of the comments on older threads, where comments were hosted on minx.cc, are visible. I wanted to see when I started posting, but I cannot get them to load.
Posted by: Hour of the Wolf

You need the Super-Secret Pixy URL decoder ring. Requires two double-A batteries and a sledgehammer.

Copy the post number from the minx URL and precede it with acecomments.mu.nu/?post=

Why Pixy has ignored my pleas to fix the various link problems on Ace acknowledges my lowly status. It would be handy, for example, to have next post & last post links on comments pages. But, no-ooo.
Posted by: mindful webworker - troubleshooter? Surrrre at November 17, 2024 02:38 PM (F4RBN)

Thank you. Even with that, I can't find it.... I kinda killed a Memorial Day thread some years back, but I can't find the comment anymore. I don't remember the nic, but it was a long comment. Either I have been here much longer than I thought, or it was deleted.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 03:00 PM (VNX3d)

152
Once you clean them up just store them by pushing the blade into a bucket of oil impregnated sand.
(Popular Mechanics years and years ago)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron


This. Used motor oil. My dad says that his grandpa, who was a meticulous gardener and used to own a greenhouse, did this. He also carried a file in his pocket and would sharpen his shovels and spades.

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 17, 2024 03:00 PM (NMT5x)

153 The cheat is still on:

https://tinyurl.com/4tyh75fc
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 03:00 PM (js3aQ)
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Sorry. I should have posted this in the 3rd world problems thread.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 03:01 PM (js3aQ)

154 Bought Mrs. Athens her own tool set. They are bright pink. She loves them.
Posted by: The Man from Athens

I'm pretty sure this is how Brittany Force (John Force's daughter) got started in drag racing.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 03:01 PM (WXNFJ)

155 The right tool for the right job.

Posted by: Grandpa at November 17, 2024 03:01 PM (dg+HA)

156 131 "Hey, we're building toasters not helicopters for chris sake"
Things I've heard on the shop floor.
Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2024 02:46 PM (QB+5g)

I have a Sunbeam AT-W toaster with the last patent date of 1965, that has no external lever: you drop a slice of bread in it, it slowly lowers it, toasts it and slowly brings it back up to be retrieved. It is the coolest appliance I have ever seen.

Every other toaster has been dull, and pointless and felt like it was made to be thrown away yearly, ALL TOASTERS SHOULD BE THIS COOL, DAMMIT!
Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 02:53 PM (D7oie)
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One is made in the USA and the other is not.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 17, 2024 03:01 PM (icmmM)

157 Miss use of tools. I use a manure shovel to catapult snapping turtles into my neighbors yard.
Does that count?

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at November 17, 2024 03:02 PM (wBaIH)

158 I have a hard bound memoranda book that I use daily, and the end papers have torn letting the block of bound papers flip loose.

I fixed that by cutting some new endpapers from a remainder roll of wallpaper that has its own glue applied, wetted them down and glued them to the inside to hold things stable again. I am hoping it will last until I use the book up.

It is a cheap hard bound book I picked up at a thrift store, but I had hoped to have gotten something a bit more durable.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 03:02 PM (D7oie)

159 no scissors are safe from my hubby
Posted by: vmom
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Have 99¢ Harbor Freight scissors in every room
Posted by: Braenyard
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Hubby wasn't fooled by the dollarstore cheapos, so I then bought a nice set (actually TWO sets) of manly, black-handled cheapos at homedespot.

Sadly, I must *still* hide my good sewing scissors, lest he use them for cutting wire or cowhide or as a prying tool.....

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 03:02 PM (njWTi)

160 I had a pair of sprue snippers that I used to separate plastic kit model pieces.


Somebody used it for cutting the type of wire wrapping for jewelry making.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2024 03:03 PM (Y6IkP)

161 149 The cheat is still on:

https://tinyurl.com/4tyh75fc
Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at November 17, 2024 03:00 PM (js3aQ)


At this rate they will declare Kamala the winner in 2028.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at November 17, 2024 03:04 PM (icmmM)

162 This might fit better on the gun thread, but I thought we could use a reminder that life can be fun.

https://pin.it/4PvIBeM83

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 03:04 PM (VNX3d)

163 139 Vibes online of the FBI planning bad things:

https://tinyurl.com/yc5ff2hf
Posted by: Biden's Dog
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I can't remember her name. She's a great advocate for the Republic. In DeepState's face more successful than Barnhardt.

Posted by: Braenyard read, some animals are more equal than others at November 17, 2024 03:05 PM (tRs7o)

164 My FWP is I did a Sams Club delivery and the one thing I really wanted, L'Occitane almond shower oil, was no longer available.

Posted by: Piper at November 17, 2024 03:07 PM (pZEOD)

165 My FWP is I did a Sams Club delivery and the one thing I really wanted, L'Occitane almond shower oil, was no longer available.
Posted by: Piper

A Diddy party coming up?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 17, 2024 03:08 PM (WXNFJ)

166
I saw a promo for another series, Landman. One like Yellowstone or Justified or shows like that. Scheming, chicanery, murder. All the same: imposing Hollywood ethics on some exotic setting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2024 03:08 PM (dxSpM)

167 Ghirardelli Triple Chocolate Brownie Mix for the win.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 17, 2024 03:09 PM (DsA2n)

168 165 A Diddy party coming up?
Posted by: Tonypete at November

No where near as fun- just avoiding winter skin when we flip from AC to heat for a month. 😂

Posted by: Piper at November 17, 2024 03:10 PM (p4NUW)

169 Hadrian, that's the new show with Billy Bob Thornton.
Taylor Sheridan's shows are usually too drama-ey for me, but at least usually mot woke.

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 17, 2024 03:11 PM (WL2lA)

170
My father had a 2 1/2 foot cut length of railway rail.
Used it for an anvil.

Heat your pliers with a blowtorch and use a ball pean hammer to flatten the pliers on an anvil back to useable shape.
Don't forget to dip them in cold water after hammering.

Posted by: Speller at November 17, 2024 03:12 PM (pSotA)

171 I eventually managed to extract the broken-off blade, but WTF? Who does that?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Obviously the guy who doesn't get to borrow your tools.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:12 PM (caloI)

172 Piper,

https://is.gd/7XTJmv

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 17, 2024 03:13 PM (PiwSw)

173
"What's the secret to moist brownies?"

Extra olive oil or butter in the recipe.

Posted by: Speller at November 17, 2024 03:14 PM (pSotA)

174 Not a hanging offense, but perhaps some spirited spanking is in order.

Also: the metal looks kinda soft.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at November 17, 2024 03:14 PM (kpS4V)

175 Somebody used it for cutting the type of wire wrapping for jewelry making.
Posted by: banana Dream

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*home alone scream*

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 17, 2024 03:14 PM (WL2lA)

176 Damn CBD, what type of oysters were you trying to shuck with those things? :-P

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 17, 2024 03:16 PM (0XVad)

177 166
I saw a promo for another series, Landman. One like Yellowstone or Justified or shows like that. Scheming, chicanery, murder. All the same: imposing Hollywood ethics on some exotic setting.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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Was it about awl? Landman is a common term for an oil company worker that surveys and qualifies land or area for further investigation to qualify for drilling.

Posted by: Braenyard read, some animals are more equal than others at November 17, 2024 03:16 PM (tRs7o)

178 Everyone:

What's In Your Kitchen Junk Drawer right now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 02:06 PM (uYy3Y)
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Corn cob holders
Extension cord to God knows what
Screwdriver medley
Various clips
Interocitor

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at November 17, 2024 03:17 PM (kpS4V)

179 I’ve faced similar. 20 years ago, my wife used my needle-nosed pliers one time, twisted them, and now the tips don’t line up at all. Understand these were my father’s pliers, and he was a WWII vet who died in 1998. Yes, there was a loud (over)reaction. You just can’t replace things like that, and I have a lot of things like that.

However, the end result provided this:

1. She respectfully never uses my tools. If she needs something, she goes out and buys whatever I advise her to get. eg: She wanted to put a nail in the wall for a picture, so she bought an Estwing 20s rip hammer, just like my 35 year old one. Home Depot guy said it was overkill. Yep. But I advised always to buy quality to last lifetimes.
2. Now we have sets of tools in the house. Nice ones. Hers in the basement, mine in garage.
3. And this is the biggie: She has never argued about the price of a tool.

Over this topic, there has been a lasting peace in our house since that day. I wish that upon all of you.

Posted by: bigdan at November 17, 2024 03:17 PM (/SdP/)

180
Heat your pliers with a blowtorch and use a ball pean hammer to flatten the pliers on an anvil back to useable shape.
Don't forget to dip them in cold water after hammering.
Posted by: Speller

Also don't forget to put ice oh whatever body part you 'branded' with the pliers while hotter than hades.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:18 PM (caloI)

181 Heat your pliers with a blowtorch and use a ball pean hammer to flatten the pliers on an anvil back to useable shape.
Don't forget to dip them in cold water after hammering.
Posted by: Speller

Also don't forget to put ice oh whatever body part you 'branded' with the pliers while hotter than hades.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:18 PM (caloI)

That's probably one of the few cases where the Horde's normal Put a Hot Iron on it is a bad idea.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 17, 2024 03:19 PM (VNX3d)

182 Bigdan, I also have Dad's tools and no, they don't make 'em like they used to unless you pay top dollar.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at November 17, 2024 03:19 PM (kpS4V)

183 42 Craftsman tools still exist as a zombie brand. Lowes, I think? Now, simply a better grade of Chinesium than the standard grade of Chinesium. Comparable to the better grade of HF tools, perhaps.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2024 02:17 PM (yHEow)


And no more "No questions asked free replacement" as far as I know.

Posted by: BillyD at November 17, 2024 03:19 PM (Yt3ED)

184 Some sports column this morning said it the Jaguars don't win their coach could've fired. How is the team responding? At the moment they're losing 42-6. Bye coach

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 17, 2024 03:19 PM (/y7Fe)

185 What's In Your Kitchen Junk Drawer right now?

Posted by: Soothsayer

Which one?
You'll have to be much more specific in your enquiries.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:20 PM (caloI)

186 Not a hanging offense, but perhaps some spirited spanking is in order.

Also: the metal looks kinda soft.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at November 17, 2024

I never thought of spanking grown men as restitution. *crosses "claw hammer" off the list*

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 03:20 PM (wiEf1)

187
Hollywood always portrays businesses as being run by corrupt, ruthless bastards who would kill you for a dime because Hollywood is run by corrupt, ruthless bastards who would kill you for a dime.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2024 03:21 PM (dxSpM)

188 >Everyone:

What's In Your Kitchen Junk Drawer right now?
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4 different sizes of batteries
Zippo flints
various teeny tiny screwdrivers
glue
tape
other stuff

Posted by: Don Black at November 17, 2024 03:21 PM (/7KEl)

189 I have tools in every crevice I think, my grandfather's, my FiL, my dad yet never seem at least first off , to find what you want.

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 03:22 PM (fwDg9)

190 Really, the garage is more my junk drawer/catchall. But stuff is on shelves so it doesn't look like I'm hoarding, much.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at November 17, 2024 03:23 PM (kpS4V)

191 Junk Drawer:

Precision screwdriver set (missing one)
Candles
Needle and thread
2 bottle openers
2 can openers
Generic swiss army knife
Spare vacuum cleaner belt

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2024 03:24 PM (bss/y)

192 Nobody has a Turbo Encabulator? I am disappoint.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 17, 2024 03:24 PM (PiwSw)

193 Trump needs to designate a Tool Czar/Tsar and Make Tools Great Again.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at November 17, 2024 03:24 PM (kpS4V)

194 Oh and a pair of needle nose bent pliers.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 17, 2024 03:24 PM (bss/y)

195
My small generator wouldn't start. Took it in to a small-engine repair shop. They fixed it and I went to pick it up. It wouldn't start. They took it back and fixed it and I went to pick it up. Pulled the start cord and it broke.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 17, 2024 03:24 PM (dxSpM)

196 I saw the problem in the first pic. It's Swiss!

The Swiss are a bunch of jerks.

Posted by: Tom Perry at November 17, 2024 03:25 PM (MX0bI)

197 Really, the garage is more my junk drawer/catchall. But stuff is on shelves so it doesn't look like I'm hoarding, much.
Posted by: All Hail Eris

I think that depends on if you can walk through the garage without having your shoulders touch shelves on both sides while you walk.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:25 PM (caloI)

198
Keys?
Paper clips?
Thumbtacks?
Ruler?
Scissors?
Matches?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 03:26 PM (uYy3Y)

199 I have many tools, but there is only one small collection where I know that everything is there and in working order. The rest of my tools require a full-house search with no guarantee of success.

Posted by: Emmie at November 17, 2024 03:27 PM (Sf2cq)

200 87 I feel ya, CBD, coz no scissors are safe from my hubby

Posted by: vmom deport deport deport at November 17, 2024 02:37 PM (WL2lA)


I have my own, so I don't wreck my wife's good scissors, and more importantly, don't get blamed when she can't find hers.

I have two pairs, one crap pair for cutting heavy cardboard, screening, thin sheet metal and other stuff that will wreck them, and a good pair for making clean cuts in stuff actual intended to be cut with scissors.

Posted by: BillyD at November 17, 2024 03:28 PM (Yt3ED)

201 The kitchen junk drawer has one-time-use kitchen gadgets.
The house junk drawers have keys, wallet, all sorts of change, candle stands, twine, batteries (plethora of sizes), spare light bulbs, strike anywhere matches, and various beer cozies.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:29 PM (caloI)

202 *uses screwdriver as chisel*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 17, 2024 03:30 PM (dR6yv)

203 You can get a brand new Craftsman 6" needle nose pliers for 6 bucks. That is what I would do.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 17, 2024 03:32 PM (1FWWQ)

204 Electrician scissors are quite handy and valuable.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 17, 2024 03:32 PM (dR6yv)

205 >> Craftsman tools still exist as a zombie brand. Lowes, I think?

Yeah, basically a Lowes store brand now. It's a lower price-point than their other store brand, Kobalt.

So.... no-name chinesium

In unrelated happy news: Iranian Supreme Fucktard (I'm pretty sure "Ayatollah" translates as "Fucktard", but I could be wrong about that) Ali Khamenei has stroked out and may even be taking a dirt nap/frying in Hell.

Looks like his bastard son by a syphilitic sow has been named in his place. We'll see how long that lasts.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2024 03:33 PM (W5ArC)

206 spare shoestrings, hemostat, hand warmer, bread ties, small ceramic magnets, painters tape, plastic 35mm film canister...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at November 17, 2024 03:34 PM (PiwSw)

207 Blog ate my angle brackets. No name chinesium less than Craftsman chinesium less than Kobalt chinesium, I meant to say.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2024 03:34 PM (W5ArC)

208 Trump needs to designate a Tool Czar/Tsar and Make Tools Great Again.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Agent of Chaos at November 17, 2024 03:24 PM (kpS4V))


to hell with Pence he can live in obscurity That is a good idea, but really, JD Vance should take the helm there

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 03:34 PM (D7oie)

209 Everyone:
What's In Your Kitchen Junk Drawer right now?
Posted by: Soothsayer


My First World Problem is my kitchen is too small to have a dedicated junk drawer.

So the "towels & dishcloths & hot pads" drawer also contains a few pens and pencils, a cheap pocketknife, and a wood-stain marker for coloring in scratches on the wood floor.

Oh, and one of the "keys" (tiny screwdriver-like things) for unlocking the interior doors of the house.

Posted by: mikeski at November 17, 2024 03:35 PM (DgGvY)

210 My junk drawer isn't in the kitchen. It's in my office.

Pens
Pencils
An old pair of scissors (still sharp from grindstone!)
A newer pair of garden scissors
Glustick
Paint hardener
Batteries
Stapler
Paperclips
Loose quarters
Momento of the beatification ofJPII
Staples
Stickers
Watercolor pencils
Bluejay feather
Birdcall toy from Mackinaw City
Flashdrive attached to a St Anthony keychain because someone knows me too well

Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 03:36 PM (wiEf1)

211 Saw off the end.
Hone down the sides to tips to approximate previous narrow tip.
Duct tape down the culprit.
Depilatory actions upon culprit using pliers until satisfied.

Posted by: epador at November 17, 2024 03:37 PM (yol/s)

212 It isn't nice to notice how some are more dumb than usual. Uncomfortable I'd guess.

Posted by: Carlyl at November 17, 2024 03:37 PM (CIvGD)

213 Pens, assorted chargers (in a bag), scissors, batteries (in a case to store them by size), a few warranty cards that should probably just be tossed at this point, and business cards.

Posted by: Piper at November 17, 2024 03:38 PM (p4NUW)

214 mnnn, Sharpening tools, various screws and bolts, spare hex keys, several knives and screw drivers, diagonal cutters, and a bunch of stuff the last house owner left when she sold the place to me.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 17, 2024 03:38 PM (D7oie)

215 Pens
Pencils
An old pair of scissors (still sharp from grindstone!)
A newer pair of garden scissors
Glustick
Paint hardener
Batteries
Stapler
Paperclips
Loose quarters
Momento of the beatification ofJPII
Staples
Stickers
Watercolor pencils
Bluejay feather
Birdcall toy from Mackinaw City
Flashdrive attached to a St Anthony keychain because someone knows me too well
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 03:36 PM (wiEf1)

Pretty much it. Except the flashdive and add birthday candles.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 17, 2024 03:39 PM (dR6yv)

216 160 I had a pair of sprue snippers that I used to separate plastic kit model pieces.


Somebody used it for cutting the type of wire wrapping for jewelry making.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2024 03:03 PM (Y6IkP)


Yeah, cutting steel wire with good cutters made for cutting copper wire will ruin them in a hurry.

Posted by: BillyD at November 17, 2024 03:39 PM (Yt3ED)

217
Deck of playing cards?

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 03:39 PM (pZPK7)

218 207 Blog ate my angle brackets.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2024 03:34 PM (W5ArC)


So this is a shelving thread now?

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 17, 2024 03:39 PM (NMT5x)

219 SpaceX launch alternative website

https://www.youtube.com/live/G9a0aMJ7Lyo

T - 49 minutes

Posted by: Ciampino - phew at November 17, 2024 03:40 PM (i0xsb)

220 The Paolo, how do you say, has advice on how to make your brownies moist

Posted by: The Paolo at November 17, 2024 03:40 PM (1FWWQ)

221
This reminds me of Let's Make A Deal.

Monty Hall will give you $50 if you have a magnifying glass in your junk drawer!

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 17, 2024 03:40 PM (pZPK7)

222 > 203 You can get a brand new Craftsman 6" needle nose pliers for 6 bucks. That is what I would do.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 17, 2024 03:32 PM (1FWWQ)

Or you could spend $25 on a still-made-in-USA Klein and get something sturdy, with far better fit and finish, support an American worker, and never worry about buying one again.

I'm not gonna get holier than thou here... I buy Chinese crap the same as everyone else. But when I do have the option, I do my best to buy American (followed by countries that don't hate us, in rough order.... if I'm looking for total cheap crap nowadays, I look at Indian stuff before considering Chinese).


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2024 03:40 PM (W5ArC)

223 I never thought of spanking grown men as restitution. *crosses "claw hammer" off the list*
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 17, 2024 03:20 PM (wiEf1)


But grown men have thought of it!

Posted by: haffhowershower at November 17, 2024 03:41 PM (NMT5x)

224 Hey, I was watching 'Saw 2' on Prime and there were NO ENGLISH SUBTITLES!

What the hell? I had to turn the volume up to 12 of 100 which I hate.

And 'Saw 3' had subtitles but AI must have done it. Very incorrect.

Posted by: Stateless at November 17, 2024 03:41 PM (jvJvP)

225 I am going to cross the streams here.

One cheap Harbor Freight tool I really like is their angle grinder - which is nearly free when it goes on sale. (I don't grind and weld things, so never thought I needed to own one, until I actually owned one.)

Buy a couple of wire attachments of various stiffness. Apply the correct one to any metal that you need cleaned. For example - Helena's rusted garden tools.

It will clean that kind of stuff down to bare steel in less than 60 seconds.

Angle grinder at 12,000 RPM >>> anything attached to your drill!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 17, 2024 03:42 PM (HlyYF)

226 All the usual stuff plus
A blue handled doohicky
Two thingamajigs
A whatchamacallit
And one ...OWWW! Damnit thumbtack!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 03:43 PM (W/lyH)

227 According to their site, Klein even still sources their tool steel in the US.

They do have SOME (clearly labeled) Chinese-made stuff, but most of their line is American-made.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at November 17, 2024 03:44 PM (W5ArC)

228 I feel like tje Tin Man all weekend who needs a oil can

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 03:47 PM (fwDg9)

229
The absolutely must have, save an American job, Klein tool: https://is.gd/WfpJKg

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:48 PM (caloI)

230 Needle nose seem to be collectors WWII issue.
Me thinks which inspired Walter Lance to draw Woody woodpeckers beak .
I give you a Buck three sixty for em...

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damn It! at November 17, 2024 03:49 PM (ByniV)

231 P.S. I always have my shooting eye protection and ear protection in their designated spot.

New rule for work projects - always grab my eye and ear protection since they are so handy!

I used to wear my eye protection for the angle grinder, but now have added the ear protection. I now grab both, even for tiny jobs using the Dremel.

The whine of the Dremel now hurts my 29+ ears.

Needed to grind a tiny bit of brass last weekend with the Dremel, and heard the sound clearly when the burr came free and hit my hearing protection hard!

Certainly re-iterated the caution to always wear your eye protection, even it is only a 15 second job!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 17, 2024 03:50 PM (HlyYF)

232 What's In Your Kitchen Junk Drawer right now?
---

There are 2, because they're the smallest drawers and both are difficult to access:

#1 has twisties, rubber bands, zip-ties, super glue, contact cement, extra drawer knobs, box knife & spare blades... plus whatever else can fit, LOL.

#2 has bamboo skewers, butchers' twine, masking tape, permanent markers, box of toothpicks

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 03:50 PM (njWTi)

233 It will clean that kind of stuff down to bare steel in less than 60 seconds.

Angle grinder at 12,000 RPM >>> anything attached to your drill!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot

Including an old really thick/heavy griddle with years of rust on it.
(actually I used HF wire brushes on a HF 1/2" corded drill; but, boy did it clean off that griddle!)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:52 PM (caloI)

234 229 The absolutely must have, save an American job, Klein tool: https://is.gd/WfpJKg

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:48 PM


True!

However, I have already utilized my AOS "playing card" bottle opener from the MoMe!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 17, 2024 03:53 PM (HlyYF)

235 Ms G's dad was in a biz with dozens of screw machines making tiny parts, and the tool box here has dozens of needle nose pliers from tiny to huge, all from way back in the 20s 30s and 40s, the biz started in the first decade of the 1900s.

The collection of oil cans with spouts and pumps is incredible, too.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 17, 2024 03:53 PM (ZtgZZ)

236 If you want to go high end tools go Klein and DeWalt. If you want to go low end go Ryobi and Harbour Freight.

Posted by: Carlyl at November 17, 2024 03:53 PM (CIvGD)

237 One cheap Harbor Freight tool I really like is their angle grinder - which is nearly free when it goes on sale. (I don't grind and weld things, so never thought I needed to own one, until I actually owned one.)
_________________

Angle grinders are one of the Big Five. These are:

Angle grinders
Sawzall
Cordless impact driver
Cordless drill
Oscillating saw

Those five account for about 90% of my power tool use.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2024 03:54 PM (YqDXo)

238 Those five account for about 90% of my power tool use.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Can I borrow them?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:56 PM (caloI)

239 Those five account for about 90% of my power tool use.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Can I borrow them?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 17, 2024 03:56 PM (caloI)
__________________

Hell to the "no!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2024 03:56 PM (YqDXo)

240 One of my wife's friends told her that her husband liked lending stuff to me because it came back fixed.

Posted by: Cosda at November 17, 2024 03:57 PM (sFfdL)

241 Thanks to all you Morons with comments on garden tool maintenance!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 03:59 PM (KcwUg)

242 Swiss... probably pretty good steel. Heat each jaw up with your butane torch until red and then gently use your ball pean hammer to pound them straight again. Easy peasy.

Posted by: BrianinTn at November 17, 2024 03:59 PM (GD75n)

243 Sawzall is pretty much the all in one tool. What it can't cut it can bash when needed.

Posted by: Carlyl at November 17, 2024 03:59 PM (CIvGD)

244 NOOD

FOOD

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2024 04:00 PM (KcwUg)

245 I have an ancient (Pre-Cambrian Era) Vacuum Jar Cap Lifter - "Miracle" by name. It's a combination beer bottle cap remover, lid lifter, and screw driver. I use this thing all the time.…
Posted by: Tonypete


Mom had one of these. (Pic)
https://bit.ly/3OeC5vc

We all grew up with that as our main soda pop bottle opener. Before my Mom died, my two sisters argued (jokingly, I think) about who would get it.

I went online and found and bought two of them. When Mom died, I slipped the two into the drawer and kept the original for myself. One sister said she was surprised to find two in the drawer, but she took one. Other sister, last I heard, decided not to want it, so I don't know what happened to the other one. I never admitted to doing it.

I think I'll go open a bottle of something right now.

Posted by: mindful webworker - long-planned joke with poor payoff at November 17, 2024 04:01 PM (F4RBN)

246 Hubby gave me a set of Ryobi 18v tools, oh I don't remember how many years ago-- at least 15-- and they're still working. Recip saw, circular saw, drill and light. Plus a drill/hammer drill combo pack. Gotta have TWO regular screwguns!!!

We re-roofed, built 2 small outbuildings, cut saplings (yay, cordless recip for tight spaces!) and completed countless projects!

Terrific value for the price IMO.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 04:01 PM (njWTi)

247 Can/bottle opener. Got an oil change last month at the Conoco station I worked at 49 years ago. The kid that owns it now gave me one from back then. Place still looks the same for the most part

Posted by: t-dubya-d at November 17, 2024 04:02 PM (RjlXJ)

248 Head upstairs
ITS FOODIE NOODIE TIME

Posted by: Skip at November 17, 2024 04:02 PM (fwDg9)

249 Any recommendations on how to fix the start button on a space heater ?

Posted by: Adriane the Not Cynical Enough Critic . . . at November 17, 2024 04:03 PM (TX4bP)

250 "I eventually managed to extract the broken-off blade, but WTF? Who does that". People who don't own their own tools ,or screwed them up beyond all recognition. Also people who will never ever be loaned even a book of matches .

Posted by: Edward at November 17, 2024 04:05 PM (93DJn)

251 Was the friend who used it named Homer by any chance?

Posted by: Sapwolf at November 17, 2024 04:08 PM (arJ9M)

252 The forces applied to the working end of that tool definitely exceeded its design tolerance.

Posted by: Mark in SC at November 17, 2024 04:15 PM (gWO+I)

253 F'ing Sears. Free replacement of hand tools, my a$$

Had a 'clicker' torque wrench. The plastic lock-ring broke and clips fell out. Wouldn't hold setting anymore.

Took it to Sears. "It's not a hand tool" says the bimbo at the counter...
"Huh?" *holds up tool* "There's no cord on this. It IS a hand tool"

Bimbo: Do you have a receipt?
Me: No, it was a gift.
Bimbo: How long ago? We only refund after 1 year.
Me: ...
Bimbo: Sorry.
Me: You got that right.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 04:16 PM (njWTi)

254 "after" s/b "up until" grrrr

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 04:23 PM (njWTi)

255 I dо not eᴠen know how I ended up here, but I thought
this post waѕ good. I do not know who you are but ⅾefinitely you're going to a famouѕ blоgger if you are not alreaɗy

Posted by: selfridge at November 17, 2024 04:31 PM (9MoOw)

256 My hatred of putting up Xmas lights burns with the heat of a thousand suns. I started early this year as it wasn't raining. Took about four hours to put up half of what I was forced to put up last year.
Hate it.
No more. No more ladders. No more busted lights. No more getting poked in the ass by the damned shrubbery.
I'm done.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 17, 2024 02:15 PM (W/lyH)

I gave up this year. Paying a landscape crew. They custom build the light(led) strings, install, take down and store them. Next year it is half as much to do as the lights will be built. Or I may just leave them up all year. I'm also in Montana so some years it was cold AF. No more.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at November 17, 2024 04:38 PM (iNp3L)

257 I put up a string of lights across the deck-- takes 2 strands, so about 35ft.

Installed little screw-eyes along underside of railing & use zip-ties to hold up the lights. Done in less than 20 minutes. Take-down in less than 10.

Posted by: JQ at November 17, 2024 04:43 PM (njWTi)

258 I’ve it the twin!

Posted by: rocdoctom at November 17, 2024 04:52 PM (zy0Pk)

259 The pliers are not even Chinese made. Oof.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at November 17, 2024 06:20 PM (/U5Yz)

260 The pliers are not even Chinese made. Oof.

Posted by: Maj. Healey

Everything has its limits

Posted by: Erebus- ex-killer whale at November 17, 2024 06:51 PM (elaR+)

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