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Trump Makes Standard-Issue "Chickenhawk" Argument Against Liz Cheney, Saying She Blithely Sends Out 10,000 Men To Face Death But Won't Face the Fire Herself;
CNN and Jonah Goldberg Claim He's Calling for Her Execution by Firing Squad

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Mollie
@MZHemingway

"He's saying quite explicitly and unambiguously that Liz Cheney should be shot, should be executed by firing squad." -- the absolutely broken and self-hating @JonahDispatch, lying BRAZENLY about what was said.

He's not "self-"hating, Mollie. That would imply he's a conservative.

He's not and never has been. He has always been a liberal who grifted the conservative establishment for millions, and that's an easy game, because the conservative establishment itself has always been liberal, except for the One Thing That Matters -- lowering taxes on the liberal billionaires who funded the conservative establishment.

His entire "conservative" life he was controlled opposition -- no, that still implies he opposed the left.

He was controlled opposition, against us.

Good point:

Glenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
Trump is saying what every liberal pundit and DNC operative I know was saying for 15 years -- from 2001 until 2016 -- about the Cheneys, neocons, and warmongering.

But now that liberals are aligned with those people, they claim it's a threat of execution to say it

The liberals smeared all war supporters as "chickenhawks" -- now they're pretending it's threatening Liz Chebey with death to call her a chickenhawk.


Trump responded to the newest Fake Outrage Propaganda Attack:

Jonah's also spreading disinformation about JD Vance.

Yesterday, I pointed out a liberal who claimed Vance was telling a false "weird story" about having to defend his home from possible assassins after Trump was shot, claiming that Vance was only a "junior senator" and thus under no threat.

I pointed out to this ignorant media c*nt that Trump was shot on July 13th, and Vance was announced July 15th, and was widely known to be at the top of the last four candidates for the VP. Vance himself already knew he was the pick.

Look how Jonah parrots this claim from this leftwinger -- and then adds his own made-up bullshit: Vance must have abandoned his children at the mini-golf course when he ran like a coward to board himself up in the house. He parrots the "weird story" language, and then the "junior senator" lie.

Just a junior senator? He had just been chosen to be Trump's VP!


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Vance never said he left his kids at the mini-golf course. This fat, disgusting cowardly semi-man is just making this slur up out of whole cloth.

Maybe because it's what he would do -- if he were nasty enough spawn children from his wretched DNA.

David French Cuckdate: He says that it's okay to lie about Trump calling for a firing squad, because you can bang on the table and make his real quote sound bad, too, so what's the diff?

David French
@DavidAFrench

Trump's defenders say he's not referring to a firing squad. Does that make his remarks acceptable?

Not even close. Even if he "only" wanted his opponent -- whom he calls "very dumb" and also wants to put in front of a military commission -- to be at the receiving end of hostile fire, we’re confronting inexcusably malicious political language.

A friend named Fred (not his real name) writes:


Did you notice that Jonah yesterday completely invented out of thin air that JD Vance fled a mini-golf park *without* his kids, leaving them there, to rush to the safety of his home after he found out Trump was shot? No one can find this claim made by anyone, anywhere.

What Vance said, and has been corroborated by witnesses (with tweets and timestamps at the time!) was that he scooped up his kids, rushed home, and loaded his guns.

He apparently just completely made up the leaving the kids at the park part.

The tweet he's quoting doesn't say that.

And in addition to that, Vance already knew he was both being considered for VP, and Trump already hinted to him that he was likely the pick. This was two days before the announcement. Why wouldn't you think you were a possible target when you find out the president was just shot?


I just scanned his feed and when he's not trying to avoid criticism by chain-posting pictures of his dog, he's now defending the Biden economy, claiming it's always been stronger than Trump's.

He also stepped in a whole new pile of shit this morning about the Liz Cheney bullshit, that he issued an "apology" (where he naturally blames mostly everyone else) for getting the story wrong.


This Vance one actually really does piss me the fuck off. Fine, lie about Trump. We're all used to it. But he's suggesting a father of young children got scared and just took off and abandoned his young children? What the fuck is this? Who says shit like this?

Update: Rich Barris says that the factoid that women are voting 10% ahead of men is a week old, and the gap has narrowed since then:

Still: Let's get out there and make Jonah Goldberg finally get an actual job, huh?

NeverTrump will lose their funding if they lose this election.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 04:05 PM




Comments

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1 I didn't break the blog.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 01, 2024 04:04 PM (emFBo)

2 I am responsible for a lot of things, but not this time!

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:06 PM (ClBAL)

3 Then: The Cheney's are war mongering genocidal maniacs that like to watch brown people die

Now: How dare you insult the integrity of Dick and Liz!!!

Posted by: The left at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

4 Historically women vote early and by the same margin.

Next you'll be telling me they leave the toilet seat down.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (Amz76)

5 "I wouldn't believe all these bullshit narratives about Trump that turn out to be false if he were a quality candidate."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (GBKbO)

6 Apparently the centrists will win this election

Posted by: 18-1 at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (oZhjI)

7 So all this is to try and discourage the Republican vote...

Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (IyPmt)

8 Calling for Her Execution by Firing Squad

Not gas?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (Ek9cT)

9 Next you'll be telling me they leave the toilet seat down.
Posted by: Ignoramus at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (Amz76)

*shifty eyes

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! Catz for Trump! at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (OX9vb)

10 NeverTrump will lose their funding if they lose this election.

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I thought they'd lose their funding after 2020!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (GBKbO)

11 Just a thought, are men voting less because they are at work? Sexist, I know, but also truth?

Guys, go vote please. We can’t early vote inAL, but I promise I will be voting on a state where my vote truly doesn’t matter.

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (ClBAL)

12 Calling for Her Execution by Firing Squad

Not gas?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at November 01, 2024 04:07 PM (Ek9cT)

Given the choice, she'd prefer death by chocolate.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (k9OZB)

13
How dare you insult the integrity of Dick and Liz!!!

They were a thing back in the 60's.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (63Dwl)

14 The left wing cope on Ralston's twitter feed regarding NV returns is just epic.

I bet you guys didn't know that Kamel is going to win 25% of Republicans and Independents by 30 points!

Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (i7Q7S)

15 MI SOS Jocelyn Benson posted another one of her “fact-checks” on “election misinformation.”

Fact Check: Voters can only vote once in every election. A recent social media post has taken a data report that included formatting errors to incorrectly claim that individual voters were casting multiple ballots in this election.


In a follow-up tweet, the MI State Department wrote:

The error has been identified and corrected. Each of these voters only had one vote recorded for this election.

Posted by: SMOD at November 01, 2024 04:09 PM (RHGPo)

16 14 The left wing cope on Ralston's twitter feed regarding NV returns is just epic.

I bet you guys didn't know that Kamel is going to win 25% of Republicans and Independents by 30 points!
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (i7Q7S)

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They said that about Hillary in 2016, that she'd win 25% of Republicans.

It was how she was going to win Florida.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:09 PM (GBKbO)

17 I for one am shocked........shocked............that our straight shooting play it down the middle media would be accused of trying to manipulate the news to make a particular candidate look bad.

By the way, did you know Jake Tapper loves our veterans?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 01, 2024 04:09 PM (ig8VZ)

18 Dangit, could've been 3rd. Reading centered content and comments like room temperature IQ rookie.

Posted by: BifBewalski at November 01, 2024 04:09 PM (MsrgL)

19 >>> He was controlled opposition, against us.

Exactly. Most of them are. It's incredibly frustrating.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:09 PM (Evo1G)

20 Just went to the UF election lab on early voting. The GA numbers of M to F are exactly the same

Posted by: Roberto at November 01, 2024 04:10 PM (QUC63)

21 Jonah's instinct for whether a story might be true or not is impeccable, witness his reaction to Hunter's laptop.

Impeccably wrong is still a type of impeccable.

Posted by: spindrift at November 01, 2024 04:11 PM (OguvZ)

22 Does anyone know if any reputable polling organization is still polling, or all they all done prior to the election?

I mean, it's less useful now since a significant number of people have already voted.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:12 PM (Evo1G)

23 21 Jonah's instinct for whether a story might be true or not is impeccable, witness his reaction to Hunter's laptop.

Impeccably wrong is still a type of impeccable.
Posted by: spindrift at November 01, 2024 04:11 PM (OguvZ)

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"Hey, Jonah, I have it on good authority that Trump gutted a baby seal with confidential documents while raping a porn star and praising Hitler's choice in home decor."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:12 PM (GBKbO)

24 Next time, instead of a garbage truck - I'd like to see Trump rent a helicopter. Then I'll vote twice.

Three times if he wears mirrored shades and a doorman's jacket.

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:12 PM (aSKII)

25 There's probably a really big tarp somewhere, and they ran out of tires to put on top of it, and they're having trouble holding down the windward corner.

Jonah Goldberg could do that.

Posted by: Tom Perry at November 01, 2024 04:12 PM (MX0bI)

26 I mentioned this on an earlier thread. Leftist Joe Walsh called out serial context excisor Aaron Rupar for clipping out context from the Trump statement on Cheney.

Rupar showed in the comments to cry about being thus called out by a fellow lying leftist.

http://tiny.cc/qq5tzz

Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 04:12 PM (Odg76)

27 This is where we are:

Democratic Arizona attorney general investigates Trump for potential "death threat" after comments on Liz Cheney

"I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement."

Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (i7Q7S)

28 The baby aborters have their sights on you.

I feel like we crazy Christians had these arguments 20 and 30 years ago regarding people's "private lives" - also too controversial to fight - and were similarly shunned.

Short memories.

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (nBRaJ)

29 All Trump needs to do, is ask for volunteers to deal with the Lying Media.

No need to harm the media. Just assign each of them "one of us" as a personal, armed editor, insuring that their lies don't make it onto airwaves or print, until the lies have been stripped out and the Whole Truth is being told.

All through the Trump 2nd term. Drill them on Who, What, Where, How and sometimes, Why. Basic Reporting, 101.

MAYBE by the end of four years, a FEW of them might regain some pride as professionals, and be allowed to carry on w/ minimal supervision.

The rest, we issue spoons and they learn to dig ditches.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (Xo+UM)

30 You guys are wrong!

Why, 52 intelligence officials, without watching the tape of what Trump said, have concluded that he threatened her and that anything to the contrary is Russian disinformation.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (ig8VZ)

31 Goldberg did issue a non-apology apology on X.

Posted by: lymond at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (Jvjtu)

32 POLITICO @politico 8h
Trump on Liz Cheney: ‘Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her’
The former president called Cheney ‘a radical warhawk.’

Mayo 🤍 @MayoIsSpicyy 7h Replying to @politico
Trump is inciting assassination attempts against his political enemies

SheepleNoMore @Ceedog4 8h Replying to @politico
Dick Cheney's daughter is a very dumb individual. She's a radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there with 9 barrels shooting at her, let's see how she feels about it when the guns trained on her face. They're all war hawks when they're sitting in Washington in a nice building saying "Oh gee, let's send 10,000 troops into the mouths of the enemies.' She always wanted to go to war with people. I don't blame Dick Cheney for sticking with his daughter, but I was a little surprised that he didn't come with me. She's a bad person."

Also you don't give a rifle to someone you want assassinated, murdered or executed by firing squad, dumbasses.

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (hovnC)

33 >>> 27 This is where we are:

Democratic Arizona attorney general investigates Trump for potential "death threat" after comments on Liz Cheney

"I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement."
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (i7Q7S)

So he wants to be *types* *deletes* right next to the Maricopa County Sherriff.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:14 PM (0s6uJ)

34 Vance said he threw the kids in the car, went directly home...made sure everyone at the house was safe, then loaded his guns and parked himself at the front door to his house. It's early in the interview.

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 04:14 PM (dIske)

35 Don't you realize that today is Apostrophe Day of Audibility?

Posted by: Eeyore at November 01, 2024 04:14 PM (1bNHn)

36 Jonah's instinct for whether a story might be true or not is impeccable, witness his reaction to Hunter's laptop.

Impeccably wrong is still a type of impeccable.


His instincts, however, on whether a sandwich is edible or not are spot on.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (ig8VZ)

37 Nobody knows how the Presidential elecyion will turn out… way too many moving parts. Election certainty is possible only on state and especially local levels.

Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (PCK5/)

38 WASHINGTON (AP) — A video purporting to depict voter fraud in Georgia is fake and the work of “Russian influence actors" determined to undermine faith in the integrity of next week's presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials said Friday.

-
Well, if U.S. intelligence officials say it . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (L/fGl)

39 This fat, disgusting cowardly semi-man is just making this slur up out of whole cloth.

Maybe because it's what he would do -- if he were nasty enough spawn children from his wretched DNA.
----
Jonah Goldberg, probably:

https://tinyurl.com/4zy5ynvm

Posted by: screaming in digital at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (JIkaw)

40 Jonah puts the need for a bra in brazenly.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (KbCG3)

41 It is really funny how all of these concerned conservatives have announced over the past few months that they are proud democrats.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (lTGtQ)

42 36 His instincts, however, on whether a sandwich is edible or not are spot on.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (ig8VZ)

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"I'm not sure about that."
-His plumber, finding a shocking amount of sawdust in the pipes

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (GBKbO)

43 >>> 11
==
Guys, go vote please. We can't early vote in AL, but I promise I will be voting on a state where my vote truly doesn't matter.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (ClBAL)

Imagine the shrieking if OrangeManBad wins the Electoral College and "wins" the popular vote too. Yes, it does matter.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (0s6uJ)

44 People on our side need to STOP IT with the dooming over the woman early vote. It's a PsyOp by the Dems to demoralize the right. Richard Baris talked at lenght about this today saying right wing influencers are falling for the bait. He says any Female/Male difference from prior elections in EV is due to drop offs in Democrat men, plus some uptick in Republican women using the method.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (TaHi/)

45 34 Vance said he threw the kids in the car, went directly home...made sure everyone at the house was safe, then loaded his guns and parked himself at the front door to his house. It's early in the interview.
Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 04:14 PM (dIske)

Yeah this is such a non story. It humanizes Vance, which is why they need to spin it.

Vance got a call that Trump had been shot the day Trump told Vance that he was going to announce Vance was his VP candidate. Vance did not have secret service protection yet.

Vance said he grabbed the kids, drove them home, locked all of the doors, loaded his gun and stood "like a sentry" at his door because he didnt know what was going on, and at that time he thought Trump had been killed and was scared.

Which is not an unreasonable reaction with the info he had at the time.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (Evo1G)

46 Vance said he threw the kids in the car, went directly home...made sure everyone at the house was safe, then loaded his guns and parked himself at the front door to his house. It's early in the interview.
Posted by: Orson
____

I heard that part of the interview also, seemed reasonable to me a man that was about to be tapped as VP would think his life could also be in danger, especially if it was some larger conspiracy.

Apparently they dont even think a former Marine is allowed to load a firearm in their house and protect their family.

Posted by: Blago at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (wMRY8)

47 44 People on our side need to STOP IT with the dooming over the woman early vote. It's a PsyOp by the Dems to demoralize the right. Richard Baris talked at lenght about this today saying right wing influencers are falling for the bait. He says any Female/Male difference from prior elections in EV is due to drop offs in Democrat men, plus some uptick in Republican women using the method.
Posted by: Serious Cat at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (TaHi/)

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Hey, I was fightin' it in the last thread!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

48 I'd love to vote Piper; but I understand voting more than once is frowned upon by conservatives.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (IBIxQ)

49 Liz can suck my balls.

This is a useless voice in American politics comparable to Chuck Schumer.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 01, 2024 04:17 PM (z+0uZ)

50 It is really funny how all of these concerned conservatives have announced over the past few months that they are proud democrats.

Its almost like one guy in particular should just apologize for screaming - for years - that the UniParty simply did not exist.

OK - I'm also thinking of a particular girl here that doesn't post anymore - but wanted to talk about "this is what divided government looks like".

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (aSKII)

51 27 This is where we are:

Democratic Arizona attorney general investigates Trump for potential "death threat" after comments on Liz Cheney

"I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement."
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (i7Q7S)
_________________________

This type behavior is why I think Arizona and Michigan are long shots for Trump. I could see the Secretary of State in each state just certifying a made up number of votes. In Michigan they just passed a law requiring a threshold difference in totals to accommodate any fraud challenges. In Arizona, the SoS sent out letters to the individual precincts telling them it was illegal to count votes at their locations.

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (dIske)

52 I think it'd be jolly more sporting to have your own rifle at your execution by firing squad. (Seems they overlook that detail in their contortions.)

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (Sa3se)

53 Vance never said he left his kids at the mini-golf course. This fat, disgusting cowardly semi-man is just making this slur up out of whole cloth.

Maybe because it's what he would do -- if he were nasty enough spawn children from his wretched DNA.


Yep, exactly like that soi boi who RAN AWAY when a mugger attacked "him" and "his" "girlfriend".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (0s6uJ)

54 This is where we are:

Democratic Arizona attorney general investigates Trump for potential "death threat" after comments on Liz Cheney

"I have already asked my criminal division chief to start looking at that statement."
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:13 PM (i7Q7S)


Go for it. Although I am shocked there were/are No investigation of politicians asking for Trump to be assassinated.

Posted by: runner at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (V13WU)

55 Who broke the blog?

Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (Odg76)

56 I’d say these comments are a stretch…

Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (PCK5/)

57 Ohhhhh yeah, that hasn't happened in a long time.

Posted by: The Margins at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (OguvZ)

58 I heard David French speak for the first time on video the other day. His speaking voice is even less manly than I had imagined it would be and I wasn't expecting much.

Posted by: Ktgreat at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (33LJY)

59 I hang my head in shame knowing that I once looked forward to reading Goldberg each Friday.

In fairness, though, it was he that changed, not I. And whether it's fair or not, he can go fuck himself

Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (GySev)

60 41 It is really funny how all of these concerned conservatives have announced over the past few months that they are proud democrats.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (lTGtQ)

Yes, we were hoodwinked by these assholes. For decades they influenced people's votes and convinced people to hold their noses and vote for people like Dole, Romney, Bush (x2), McCain, etc.

And then -- HAHA dumb rubes, why would you listen to me? I'm a Democrat. Duh.

It really should piss every R voter off. Bigly. We were played for fools.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (Evo1G)

61 Don't you realize that today is Apostrophe Day of Audibility?
Posted by: Eeyore
.......

I just farted.

Posted by: wth at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (v0R5T)

62 Who broke the blog?
Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (Odg76)
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Some self-hating conservative.

Posted by: scampydog at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (2bFN5)

63 Uh oh, did Lamont blow the margins???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (0s6uJ)

64 Fixed!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (0s6uJ)

65 How much does the definition of 'man' have to be stretched in order to include the likes of Jonah Goldberg?

Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (fQmeC)

66 Nice work!

Bad Pixy.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (0s6uJ)

67 In fairness, though, it was he that changed, not I. And whether it's fair or not, he can go fuck himself
Posted by: Frasier Crane at November 01, 2024 04:18 PM (GySev)

He didn't change. He was paid to trick the R voters. And did it successfully for years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (Evo1G)

68 So, ace, have you voted yet?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:19 PM (GBKbO)

69 I'm not broad-minded enough for this thread.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (xCA6C)

70 47 44 People on our side need to STOP IT with the dooming over the woman early vote. It's a PsyOp

Agree. Nothing to be done but vote and help get the like minded to the polls.

Posted by: Roberto at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (QUC63)

71 This is an excellent maneuver by Trump.

Our base instinct as humans is to be drawn to the strongest side, typically the side that either acts first in a violent manner or can command violence. In 2020, Trump had lost that ability as the specter of the riots hung over the population -- it's why the Dems tolerated and coordinated the violent action in the streets.

Think back to 2016 during Brexit -- just before the vote, someone shot some anti-Brexit Labour London MP on the street. There was doom and gloom that this would negatively affect the vote. In actuality, this crystallized the movement. If you are willing to use violence, to kill for your movement, you appeal to the base instincts and you reinforce your support. This is common throughout all of human history.

Did he mean to inspire violent action? Maybe, maybe subliminally. This in itself appeals to the population, especially young men.

Don't forget, men are engineered by God to do three things: to kill, to fuck, and to build.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (YIxO9)

72 Jonah needs to be out of work.

CNN: LMAO wants Johah executed by angry mob!

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (LPS7w)

73 I heard that part of the interview also, seemed reasonable to me a man that was about to be tapped as VP would think his life could also be in danger, especially if it was some larger conspiracy.

That is nuts. Why, never in our history has a group of individuals ever attempted to assassinate all the heads of a government.

Posted by: John Wilkes Booth, George Atzerod and Lewis Powell a/k/a Payne at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (ig8VZ)

74 I hang my head in shame knowing that I once looked forward to reading Goldberg each Friday.

Still have my copy of Liberal Fascism on the shelf. It still stuns me - the amount of people that argued against the idea that Jonah wrote that the worst thing about Hillary was that she just cared too much. She wanted to write too much law to make things better.

It's in the fucking book.

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (aSKII)

75 annddddd...of course. I don't normally join in the formatting error humor, so the one time I do, it's fixed and I feel like a dope. I don't want to be remembered this way!

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (xCA6C)

76 Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays 3m
This kind of deceptive edit is literally named a “Rupar” after its most enthusiastic practitioner.
Joe Walsh @WalshFreedom 6h
Trump did NOT call for Liz Cheney to be executed.
This is what’s so wrong with our politics today. Look, you know how I feel about Trump, and I’ve been out there every day for 2-3 months campaigning my ass off to help get @KamalaHarris elected, but this short clip is so deceptive. Trump is NOT calling for Liz Cheney to be executed in front of a firing line. He’s not. Listen to the entirety of what he said. In Trump’s typically stupid, ugly fashion, he’s trying to make a point about Cheney’s stance on war. But Aaron (who I like & respect), by posting ONLY this 11 second clip, makes it look like he’s calling for her to be executed. He’s not. He’s an utterly horrible human being who’s utterly unfit for office, but the truth should always matter. And the truth is that Trump is not calling for Liz Cheney to be executed. But…this 11 second clip will have a gazillion views, and the truth will have just a handful of views.
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It's literally all Rupar ever does.


Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 01, 2024 04:21 PM (hovnC)

77 Dems are doing everything they can to suppress our voting preference and to scare their people to the polls. They're just amping the volume to eleventy at the moment. They aren't moving the peg at all.

The only people that haven't voted yet are those that will not vote for the current field, or those that work and have other duties that have prevented them from going to the polls, so far. Election Day is going to be lit.

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:21 PM (rj6Yv)

78 The irony would be if most Americans either don't care what happens to Liz Cheney or approve of her being perforated by a firing squad.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 01, 2024 04:21 PM (UseAb)

79 Maybe Liz Cheney, Jonah the whale and all never Trumpers can grab a rifle and stand to post in Ukraine for our precious democracy

What would be more frightening for them: A foxhole in Ukraine or facing a newly riled up Hugh Hewitt??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:21 PM (O1oUp)

80 So, ace, have you voted yet?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell
......

I think he did. He wrote in Phil Swift.

Posted by: wth at November 01, 2024 04:21 PM (v0R5T)

81 "People on our side need to STOP IT with the dooming over the woman early vote. "

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Yes they do. It is completely silly.

Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:21 PM (i7Q7S)

82 It's baaaack.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:22 PM (xCA6C)

83 What happened ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 04:22 PM (IyPmt)

84 44. Thank you. This is the first election in which Michigan allowed early in person voting. I have no factual numbers but to my untrained eye, it looked like 50/50 split in gender when we early voted on Tuesday . And Mr. Jen and I were assigned an early voting location not in our rural Township, but in the middle of a large suburban area with lots of housing developments. Michigan continues with early voting until Sunday at 5 o’clock. Then nothing on Monday poles open Tuesday morning.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:22 PM (VHt2R)

85
They say the camera adds 20 pounds. Jonah Goldberg must have 6 cameras pointed at him.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 01, 2024 04:22 PM (+oR7L)

86 Vance said he grabbed the kids, drove them home, locked all of the doors, loaded his gun and stood "like a sentry" at his door because he didnt know what was going on, and at that time he thought Trump had been killed and was scared.

Which is not an unreasonable reaction with the info he had at the time.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (Evo1G)

It's important to remember that AOC was totally almost raped and torn limb from limb on Jan. 6.

Vance thinking that the man who had just chosen him as VP had been killed by an assassin just because he was shot in the head was no real cause for concern.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 01, 2024 04:22 PM (KbCG3)

87 Holy heck the blog was wider than Jonah Goldberg for a minute!

Posted by: Jay in PA at November 01, 2024 04:22 PM (i7Q7S)

88
NeverTrump will lose their funding if they lose this election.

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I don't know about that. Won't their benefactors keep paying them to attackTrump and conservatives?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (d4X7t)

89
We just went Plaid

Posted by: Lord Helmet at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (+oR7L)

90 Hey Jonah, maybe lay off the donuts and Doritos, you fat, slop sweat, unkempt, slovenly, mentally deficient layabout. Maybe McDonalds can serve you a Macguffin, you plagiaristic simp.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (9PIn7)

91 Someone keeps kicking the blog in the nuts.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (Odg76)

92 I approve of this layout.

Posted by: Wes Anderson at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (PiwSw)

93 They say the camera adds 20 pounds. Jonah Goldberg must have 6 cameras pointed at him.

I was unaware the camera added grease.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (xCA6C)

94 D'OH.

Posted by: Wes Anderson at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (PiwSw)

95 oof, I broke the blog. I was so busy adding new stuff I never checked to see if it came out okay.

Posted by: ace at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

96 Maybe because it's what he would do -- if he were nasty enough spawn children from his wretched DNA.

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I don't know, Ace: both Greta "Pol Tot" Thunberg and David "Whole" Hog bear a striking resemblance to the AI image-making love-children of Jonah and Rachel Madcow.

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (Gvhfs)

97 well his dog cosmo, wrote the best columns

i had a dialogue with jonah a dozen years or so, he was not that dim, but begging for omidyar makes you do stupid things

yes tractor rupar, for his misunderstanding of farm equipment and wifi

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (pGTZo)

98 I thought Madcow was Ron Reagan Junior.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (0s6uJ)

99 Aaron Rupar @atrupar Oct 27
Grant Cardone calls Mark Cuban a "simp" and says Kamala Harris has "pimp handlers." He then says of Democrats "we need to slaughter these other people"

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Oct 27
Classic Rupar. The “slaughter” part was about a voting landslide.
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New York Post @nypost Oct 22
Biden calls for Trump to be jailed 14 days before 2024 election: ‘We gotta lock him up!’ trib.al/oX4sLvT

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Oct 22
Fake news. It’s a Rupar edit.
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The Hill @thehill Oct 14
JD Vance, ABC host spar over claims of Venezuelan gang in Colorado

Scott Adams @ScottAdamsSays Oct 16
Rupar edit

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (hovnC)

100 fix it helena

Posted by: guzano at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (v1eJ7)

101 I have a friend who I spoke to today. He’s overwhelmingly confident of a Trump victory and one of the main reasons for his optimism that he cites is the full blown meltdown of the usual suspects in the media in the last week. I’d like to think he’s right since meltdowns are happening

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (O1oUp)

102 >>>Ohhhhh yeah, that hasn't happened in a long time.

Posted by: The Margins

>My girth grows with every encounter. Come to my domicile and let us have refreshing drinks.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (z+0uZ)

103 >>oof, I broke the blog.


But. You didn't Ban Yourself.

We'll call it a push.

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (z/jjr)

104 It's funny... Just this morning, I was calling Goldberg a fat tub of cuck who should be milled into dog chow.

And then like an hour he proved that statement unequivocally.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (7oYYI)

105 93 They say the camera adds 20 pounds. Jonah Goldberg must have 6 cameras pointed at him.

I was unaware the camera added grease.


Seriously, do Jonah and Steve Bannon share grooming tips?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (xCA6C)

106 >>>I don't know about that. Won't their benefactors keep paying them to attackTrump and conservatives?

I mean, if they can't deliver W's, you have to think they'd scale back on their financial commitment, wouldn't you?

Posted by: ace at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (KRtlO)

107 Why I am old enough to remember when the left and Democrats would make a similar argument against another Cheney (Dick).

But 2004 was like sooooo long ago.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (ig8VZ)

108 It even works underwater!

Posted by: Phil Swift at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

109 They are flailing.

There wil be more flailing this weekend on the political shows (which I don't watch, btw).

NPR, ABCNBCCBSCNNPBS "news" will pull out the stops and throw out lies, hoping something will stick.

And Goldberg is just a fat slob who can't control himself:
https://tinyurl.com/mwwxp9vj

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (Rbu5d)

110 >>.107 Why I am old enough to remember when the left and Democrats would make a similar argument against another Cheney (Dick).

i just added glenn greenwald pointing that out

Posted by: ace at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (KRtlO)

111 106 Posted by: ace at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (KRtlO)

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I tried to fix things.

But you kept breaking them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (GBKbO)

112 >>> 104 It's funny... Just this morning, I was calling Goldberg a fat tub of cuck who should be milled into dog chow.

And then like an hour he proved that statement unequivocally.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (7oYYI)

Why do you hate dogs???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (0s6uJ)

113 95 oof, I broke the blog. I was so busy adding new stuff I never checked to see if it came out okay.
Posted by: ace at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

It did not.

Posted by: Narrator Ron Howard at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (Evo1G)

114 21 Jonah's instinct for whether a story might be true or not is impeccable, witness his reaction to Hunter's laptop.

Impeccably wrong is still a type of impeccable.
Posted by: spindrift

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Jonah looked into the void. He has failed at life and so clings to whatever grift he can find. He sold out, and embraced the sellout.

He looks at every story and thinks "If I twist this just right, I bet I can get a lot of clicks and maybe some TV time to discuss it!"

That's my theory, anyway.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (zJuN/)

115 was unaware the camera added grease.
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (xCA6C)

LOL

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (nBRaJ)

116
Still: Let's get out there and make Jonah Goldberg finally get an actual job, huh?



At least Jonah can go back to his military career, right?

Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (y9nCu)

117 You know what would be interesting...

Seeing if Jonah ever responded to those progressively directed attacks on Dick Cheney being a chickenhawk.

Did he respond with as much fervor and anger as he responds to the mis-quoting of Trump?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (GBKbO)

118 Note that Johnna's instinct is to automatically and instantly trust his good friends on the as to what Trump said over actually listening for himself.

But more than that, when the mental slob is called out, he reflex is to double down and defend his false characterization.

A lifetime of humiliation is better than five minutes of listening to Trump.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (U4x6/)

119 I was watching a mel brooks special last night with some of his greatest hits, like the producers and blazing saddles,

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (pGTZo)

120 It's funny and inspiring to see how quickly Trump supporters supported the "Garbage" meme after Biden brain-burped.

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (rj6Yv)

121 oof, I broke the blog. I was so busy adding new stuff I never checked to see if it came out okay.
Posted by: ace at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (KRtlO)


Just like my mother cooks.

She is a shitty cook, I am just saying.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (ig8VZ)

122 >>> 116
Still: Let's get out there and make Jonah Goldberg finally get an actual job, huh?



At least Jonah can go back to his military career, right?
Posted by: Pete Bootyjuice at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (y9nCu)

Well the Vindmans prove there are no fcking fitness standards any more, so he won't have that excuse.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:26 PM (0s6uJ)

123 Fact Check: Voters can only vote once in every election. A recent social media post has taken a data report that included formatting errors to incorrectly claim that individual voters were casting multiple ballots in this election.

What a dumb bitch "This is illegal, therefore it is impossible"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (hB7mE)

124 I’d never want to get on the wrong side of Mollie Hemingway. That is one smart cookie with occasionally smart elbows; one of my favorites

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (O1oUp)

125 I've seen things, man. Terrible things...

Posted by: The Couch at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (PiwSw)

126 Eh, NeverTrump will just morph into NeverVance or NeverDeSantis as they try to beat down the Rs till a Bushie is in the main seat again. Foreign endless wars are their bread and butter.

Posted by: Bete at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (LX4y3)

127 Why do you hate dogs???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:25 PM (0s6uJ)


The rape dogs love the taste of flop sweat and despair.

Posted by: spindrift at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (OguvZ)

128 But more than that, when the mental slob is called out, he reflex is to double down and defend his false characterization.

That's unfair. He's also a physical slob.

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (xCA6C)

129 123 What a dumb bitch "This is illegal, therefore it is impossible"
Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (hB7mE)

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Wait until she finds out there are laws against murder!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (GBKbO)

130 Jonah can join Liz Cheney at the trough, only with the rest of these people who voted for endless wars and never had any stake on the fighting. That is except to line their bank accounts. There are a lot of men and women still walking around our country who they have forgotten about. Because it’s not only that they sent them to war in which many were killed or grievously injured, or mentally scarred forever, it’s that they gave them a “thank you for their service” and patted them on the head while they directed absolutely zero funding or resources to them and their families.

F you Jonah and Liz. Go drown in the buffet table or fall down a flight of stairs. You’re the shittiest human refuse on this planet.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (9PIn7)

131 "Jennifer Lopez does a scathing takedown of Donald Trump."
This is reported in my news feed. Why am I supposed to care what some multi millionaire actress thinks of Trump? She has to worry about inflation, open borders and crime?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (MQJVv)

132 Tim Walz just called Elon Musk "That gay guy"

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Well, everyone is gay compared to Testosterone Tim.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (L/fGl)

133 Still have my copy of Liberal Fascism on the shelf. It still stuns me - the amount of people that argued against the idea that Jonah wrote that the worst thing about Hillary was that she just cared too much. She wanted to write too much law to make things better.

It's in the fucking book.
Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:20 PM (aSKII)

***

Ha, I’ve got a copy, too. I remember thinking he was a major grifter back then. I don’t know why I bought a copy.. it was probably flogged by PJ Media and I stupidly thought it would be good.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (FC8SQ)

134 What a dumb bitch "This is illegal, therefore it is impossible"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM

Yeah. Murders been illegal for a while now, yet somehow......

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (+oR7L)

135 David Fwench is such a pussy.

OF COURSE Vance didn't leave his kids in hysteria.
Vance is a man. A Marine. He would never leave his kids or wife in danger.

Fwench is a putz.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (Rbu5d)

136 Seriously, do Jonah and Steve Bannon share grooming tips?
Posted by: Archimedes


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Man, if I have hair like that when I am 70, I too will refuse to cut it, and probably refuse to wash it for fear it might start to thin.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (zJuN/)

137 He apparently just completely made up the leaving the kids at the park part.

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JD should sue Jonah and his wife's bulls for $10 billion apiece in defamation suits!

That extra $200 billion would come in handy for the 2028 & 2032 general elections ...

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (Gvhfs)

138 >>> 95 oof, I broke the blog. I was so busy adding new stuff I never checked to see if it came out okay.
Posted by: ace at November 01, 2024 04:23 PM (KRtlO)

We will forgive you if and only if you are at next year's *tenth* TX MoMee.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (0s6uJ)

139 126 Eh, NeverTrump will just morph into NeverVance or NeverDeSantis as they try to beat down the Rs till a Bushie is in the main seat again. Foreign endless wars are their bread and butter.
Posted by: Bete at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (LX4y3)

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They already did

At the height of the primary, when people still thought DeSantis had some kind of chance, they were already prepping the rhetorical groundwork for saying DeSantis was worse.

Not the left (well, they were), but people like Kristol, French, and Goldberg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

140 Tim Walz just called Elon Musk "That gay guy"

With 12 children

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Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (IyPmt)

141 I done voted last Sunday. All the the eeyore doom posting elsewhere just washes off me like rain on a duck because after the last ten years I know me caring does F-all.

Worrying does nothing, so I'll expect nothing and carry on about my business.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (Y6IkP)

142 Greenwald hit the mail on the head. It's been what every lefties has been saying for years! Probably about Barron himself!

Welp, I voted early. Hate that I'm participating in election season, but there it is. Half hour from get in line to walk out. Not the turnout others are seeing I guess.

Posted by: InZona at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (Rd9D9)

143 I am responsible for a lot of things, but not this time!
Posted by: Piper

What about your share of the national Debt?

*no maths*

Posted by: Miklos so asks at November 01, 2024 04:29 PM (khrpa)

144 For what it's worth, I voted one day before my husband did.

Posted by: Emmie at November 01, 2024 04:29 PM (p+NqZ)

145 Does Jonah Goldberg still appear on television anywhere since he "quit" Fox? Or does he just spend all his time planning on writing the Great American Tweet?

Posted by: Paco at November 01, 2024 04:29 PM (njExo)

146 130 Jonah can join Liz Cheney at the trough, only with the rest of these people who voted for endless wars and never had any stake on the fighting.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (9PIn7)

They don't care. The people that join the military are dumb people from fly over country whose lives don't matter to the ruling class types.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:29 PM (Evo1G)

147
Off me, homo jerk-sock.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 01, 2024 04:30 PM (y9nCu)

148 Why is it the assumption from the media that woman who are all voting early are voting for Commie-la?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2024 04:30 PM (MQJVv)

149 And Jonah, we know you read here so a bit of advice. Pull the Doritos crumbs out of your sweaty fat creases, you bloated bag of milky white cottage cheese fat.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:30 PM (9PIn7)

150 >>> 139 126 Eh, NeverTrump will just morph into NeverVance or NeverDeSantis as they try to beat down the Rs till a Bushie is in the main seat again. Foreign endless wars are their bread and butter.
Posted by: Bete at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (LX4y3)

=======

They already did

At the height of the primary, when people still thought DeSantis had some kind of chance, they were already prepping the rhetorical groundwork for saying DeSantis was worse.

Not the left (well, they were), but people like Kristol, French, and Goldberg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (GBKbO)

"DeSantis is the H\tleriest H/tler to ever H1tler!!!!!" -- Kristol, French, Goldberg et al

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:30 PM (0s6uJ)

151 44. Baris is great. Have been following him for years and he was on of the few to have Trump winning in 2016.

He also this NBC news story women, was for data from last week, and men have closed the gap in many states.

Also said fundamentals point toward Trump.

Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:30 PM (YCxFk)

152 145 Does Jonah Goldberg still appear on television anywhere since he "quit" Fox? Or does he just spend all his time planning on writing the Great American Tweet?
Posted by: Paco
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CNN contributor, the 'Ollies' of cable news networks.

I'll bet Jonah smelled Don Lemon's finger a time or two.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (ctrM5)

153 > "Jennifer Lopez does a scathing takedown of Donald Trump."
This is reported in my news feed. Why am I supposed to care what some multi millionaire actress thinks of Trump? She has to worry about inflation, open borders and crime?

Lopez is Diddy's ex. Her judgment and virtue are non-existent.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (Odg76)

154 I would take everything Rich Baris, "The People's Pundit" LOL, says with a giant barrelful of salt. He has a reputation of being comically wrong about almost everything.

Trying to divine ANYTHING from early voting is a fool's errand. And polls mean next to nothing because we have no idea if pollsters have truly fixed their Trump underestimation problem. Basically no one knows anything, so just vote. And bring people with you.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (w6p9p)

155 >>> 140 Tim Walz just called Elon Musk "That gay guy"

With 12 children

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Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (IyPmt)

THAT will convince everyone that zWalz is straight!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (0s6uJ)

156 Welp, it's all over. We've lost Greta Thunberg.

https://x.com/lachlan/status/1852391117372719605

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (xCA6C)

157 Trump winning in 2016 mentally broke Pretend-a-Cons like Johnah.

Trump winning in 2024 will destroy their very souls.

2016 crushed their view that they were important people with influence.
2024 will obliterate their entire self-worth.

A toothless meth-head giving $5 handjobs at some truck stop in Ohio has more dignity than the whole of the NeverTrump combined.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (U4x6/)

158 hes kept in the steel cage under cnn

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (pGTZo)

159 Republicans are a lock for the Senate, something the MSM never talks about. EO would be her only vice

Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (YCxFk)

160 "Jennifer Lopez does a scathing takedown of Donald Trump."
This is reported in my news feed. Why am I supposed to care what some multi millionaire actress thinks of Trump? She has to worry about inflation, open borders and crime?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (MQJVv)


Not even if it was SCATHING?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (vYDwg)

161 44 veterans a day die of suicide. Did you ever see Jonah stand up for them? Nope.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (9PIn7)

162 "Jennifer Lopez does a scathing takedown of Donald Trump."
This is reported in my news feed. Why am I supposed to care what some multi millionaire actress thinks of Trump? She has to worry about inflation, open borders and crime?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Meat Puppet.
Actresses prefer to be called meat puppets.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (/lPRQ)

163 131. Lopez is such a great judge of men. She’s been married and divorced like five times, including two go rounds with the same guy.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (VHt2R)

164 >>> 156 Welp, it's all over. We've lost Greta Thunberg.

https://x.com/lachlan/
status
/1852391117372719605
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (xCA6C)

Good, leave her where she is!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (0s6uJ)

165 Jennifer Lopez and her scathing takedown… in other relevant news, Aaron Rodgers had a decent game last night…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:32 PM (O1oUp)

166 But he's suggesting a father of young children got scared and just took off and abandoned his young children? What the fuck is this? Who says shit like this?

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A low-T beta cuck insecure in his emasculated eunuchism.

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (Gvhfs)

167 And Mr. Jen and I were assigned an early voting location not in our rural Township, but in the middle of a large suburban area with lots of housing developments. Michigan continues with early voting until Sunday at 5 o’clock. Then nothing on Monday poles open Tuesday morning.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:22 PM (VHt2R)
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How does that work for the down vote? State House seats. Doesn't going to a different precinct screw that up? Even if you had your ballot in advance and didn't use a local one, how does your vote on State House representative get counted in your rural township?

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (dIske)

168 Jonah Goldberg and Cenk Ungyer (?) are in the same canoe in the middle of a lake. How long till that canoe sinks?

Sorry for the math problem.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (sAmhv)

169 >>A toothless meth-head giving $5 handjobs at some truck stop in Ohio


Handjobs are really not playing into their (toothless) talents, are they?

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (z/jjr)

170 Life is beautiful, ignore this shit.

Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (Z8Yh2)

171 did they look in the nearest glacier,

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (pGTZo)

172 40 Jonah puts the need for a bra in brazenly.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 01, 2024 04:15 PM (KbCG3)

Moobs are one sign of Non-alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease. As is obesity. (I am not making this up.)

Jonah. Go see your doctor.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (Rbu5d)

173
Tim Walz just called Elon Musk "That gay guy"

With 12 children

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Posted by: It's me donna at November 01, 2024 04:28 PM (IyPmt)




And 3/4 of Hollywood's hotties names carved into his love-shack bedpost.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM (y9nCu)

174 Election news and views… sure fire clickbait.

Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (PCK5/)

175 "DeSantis is the H\tleriest H/tler to ever H1tler!!!!!" -- Kristol, French, Goldberg et al
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:30 PM (0s6uJ)

Personally, I can’t wait until the media is lauding Trump as a reasonable centrist and using his legacy to attack the Republican threat-of-the-week. Don’t say it won’t happen, they did it with Reagan, GHWB, Dole, GWB, McCain and Romney.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (FC8SQ)

176 Trying to divine ANYTHING from early voting is a fool's errand. And polls mean next to nothing because we have no idea if pollsters have truly fixed their Trump underestimation problem. Basically no one knows anything, so just vote. And bring people with you.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM


scott rasmussen says he hasn't adjusted anything in his polling this cycle and he shows Trump in the lead by 3 points.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (QNSds)

177 154. He was right in 2016. Were you? I agree on the underpoll on Trump. Look at all the final RCP state polls in 2016 and 2020. Wisconsin Biden by 8, Penn by 7. Just awful

Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (YCxFk)

178 I have never been influenced by any pundit including Rush. I do like the pundits that like to express more facts than opinion.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (D6PGr)

179 As a former neo-con, I would like to think that the first generation of neo-conservatives were pretty good but it was their sons who messed everything up. Didn't Norman Podhoretz actually vote for Trump in 2016? I genuinely felt sorry for Bill Kristol's mother who got uninvited along with her son to an event honoring Irvine Kristol.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (X1NHP)

180 Eh, NeverTrump will just morph into NeverVance or NeverDeSantis as they try to beat down the Rs till a Bushie is in the main seat again. Foreign endless wars are their bread and butter.
Posted by: Bete
===============
That grift is dying other than the arms trade. Simply put, we cannot afford it anymore and a partly funded war with an ill prepared force results in something like the Afghan bugout which tends to depress the spirits for a repeat.

I have often wondered idly if part of that war crap was also because it tended to spike the prices of commodities like oil. If you knew it was coming in advance, you could make a killing from the futures markets.

That is how Soros made a lot of his money was currency derivative speculations.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (ctrM5)

181 I can't remember where I saw it, but years ago I read a criticism of Jonah's book which, although written by a leftist who sprinkled his observations with typical left-wing twaddle, did what appeared to be a pretty thorough job in demonstrating that the tome was mostly a collection of warmed over notions from other, better writers. I think the main conclusion was that, where Goldberg was right, he wasn't original, and where he tried to be original, he was wrong.

Posted by: Paco at November 01, 2024 04:35 PM (njExo)

182 Huh, *another* hash???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:35 PM (0s6uJ)

183 Everyone knows people lined up before a firing squad are first given a rifle so they can fire back!

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 04:35 PM (wGun1)

184 168 Jonah Goldberg and Cenk Ungyer (?) are in the same canoe in the middle of a lake. How long till that canoe sinks?

Sorry for the math problem.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at November 01, 2024 04:33 PM

It doesn't. The lake water is pushed out as soon as the canoe enters it.

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 01, 2024 04:35 PM (+oR7L)

185 Did tiny balls Walz really say that Musk is gay? For real? I don’t follow these people too closely but even I know Elon has been around the block with multiple women and has multiple kids… we ain’t reached peak stupid yet

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:36 PM (O1oUp)

186 Well if women out-voting men based on abortion gives the election to Harris, then every bitch that does should be drafted into the military when Harris gets us into the next war we cannot win.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 01, 2024 04:36 PM (W/lyH)

187 >>> 183 Everyone knows people lined up before a firing squad are first given a rifle so they can fire back!
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 01, 2024 04:35 PM (wGun1)

"Duh, that makes it more fair." -- leftists

Also, nice hash.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:36 PM (0s6uJ)

188 Welp, it's all over. We've lost Greta Thunberg.

https://x.com/lachlan/status/1852391117372719605
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (xCA6C)

Was anyone looking for her?

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 04:36 PM (FC8SQ)

189 D'OH.
Posted by: Wes Anderson

Jane, stop this crazy thing!

Posted by: Miklos is happy Jane D'oh came back at November 01, 2024 04:36 PM (khrpa)

190 We'll always have that video of Sean Combs rubbing Jennifer Lopez's ample ass with baby oil on a boat. Turns out he had plenty of oil, and she'd have plenty of ass.

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:37 PM (aSKII)

191 If we lose, Rino's will push 2026 and Nikki Haley for 2028

Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:37 PM (YCxFk)

192
I'm so physically ill from blackpilling right now that I just want Harris to hurry up and win so we can get on the road to disaster, and, with any luck, the next hot Civil War.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at November 01, 2024 04:37 PM (T3es0)

193 Sorry, I meant Irving Kristol.

Anyway, wasn't Jonah's father one of those first generation neo-conservatives?

Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 01, 2024 04:37 PM (X1NHP)

194 Welp, it's all over. We've lost Greta Thunberg.

https://x.com/lachlan/status/1852391117372719605
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (xCA6C)

Was anyone looking for her?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

Lost in a pile of formerly collectible Cabbage Patch Kids

Posted by: Miklos guesses at November 01, 2024 04:38 PM (khrpa)

195 I miss Rush

Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:38 PM (YCxFk)

196 185 Did tiny balls Walz really say that Musk is gay? For real? I don’t follow these people too closely but even I know Elon has been around the block with multiple women and has multiple kids… we ain’t reached peak stupid yet
Posted by: LinusVanPelt

Yes, but he wasn’t meaning it in a literal way, he was using it as a slur. That is what should be dominating news.

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (A/yld)

197 'Scathing' takedown of Trump - "Every woman in this country and around the world will be denied health care an will DIE a horrible death if Trump is elected!"

Posted by: Celebrity at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (Svrxu)

198 She willingly railroad innocent men and women as a political tactic and aided and abetter in the defamation, torture and deaths.

So. ... Fuck her.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (mfUOU)

199 195 I miss Rush
Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:38 PM (YCxFk)
Ditto.

Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (LHPAg)

200 yeah that didn't even happen on the A team

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (pGTZo)

201 194 Welp, it's all over. We've lost Greta Thunberg.

https://x.com/lachlan/status/1852391117372719605
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:31 PM (xCA6C)

Was anyone looking for her?
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

Lost in a pile of formerly collectible Cabbage Patch Kids
Posted by: Miklos guesses at November 01, 2024 04:38 PM (khrpa)

One of the funniest pics on the net a few,years back was the Greta on the Shelf Doll… they should have marketed that..

Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (PCK5/)

202 179 As a former neo-con, I would like to think that the first generation of neo-conservatives were pretty good but it was their sons who messed everything up. Didn't Norman Podhoretz actually vote for Trump in 2016? I genuinely felt sorry for Bill Kristol's mother who got uninvited along with her son to an event honoring Irvine Kristol.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (X1NHP)

They were always a bunch of coastal liberals who happened to disagree with other liberals about the utility of spending billions on the military industrial complex during the Cold War never ending wars.

The fact that they ever had any power in the R party is embarrassing and absurd.

Grifters through and through.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (Evo1G)

203 I miss Rush

Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:38 PM (YCxFk)


Just join the rest of the group that bitches all day online about how they were the greatest band ever.

I get it - Moving Pictures was pretty good. But look, they were not Led Zep or The Stones.

And Fuck Canada.

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (aSKII)

204 Friend says bogus polling to put Harris in lead, to make cheating seem more plausible

Posted by: Jonah at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (YCxFk)

205 Did tiny balls Walz really say that Musk is gay? For real? I don’t follow these people too closely but even I know Elon has been around the block with multiple women and has multiple kids… we ain’t reached peak stupid yet
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:36 PM (O1oUp)

One gets the feeling that the Dems are screaming at the top of their lungs because, in the corner of their eyes, they can see the stagehands reaching out for them with the hooks.

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (rj6Yv)

206 > Meat Puppet.
Actresses prefer to be called meat puppets.

I was thinking about this the other day. I contend that actors are carnies with better public image. Most of them are poorly educated. Most of them are chock full of drugs. Most of them are very poorly paid. Most of them have mind-numbingly dull jobs. They are the public facing representative of old, badly assembled, rickety machines that are dangerous to the public.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (Odg76)

207 A lot of us initially bought into the wars because we believed the things we were being told. There was also a tremendous surge of patriotism after 9-11 which helped. We won the wars they asked us to fight rather quickly. Then people like Cheney stepped in to change the mission and make them forever wars. That led to mission creep and the 20 plus years of war we experienced. They own it because they led it, propagandized it and funded it over all other things. All the men and women who needlessly died during that period after we accomplished the initial objectives are on their head and jackasses like Jonah who supported it. Trump is 100% right and I haven’t seen a person yet who disagrees. That is except Flop sweat Jonah and his friends

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (9PIn7)

208 183 Everyone knows people lined up before a firing squad are first given a rifle so they can fire back! - Shenanigans

Well, that would be the sporting thing to do, I guess.

Posted by: Paco at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (njExo)

209 For what it's worth, I voted one day before my husband did.
Posted by: Emmie
--------
But you still voted for Trump like he ordered you to, right, Emmie?

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (hovnC)

210 That is how Soros made a lot of his money was currency derivative speculations.
Posted by: whig

That, and theft from Jews in Hungary 1944-1945.

Posted by: Miklos knows at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (khrpa)

211 22 Does anyone know if any reputable polling organization is still polling, or all they all done prior to the election?

I mean, it's less useful now since a significant number of people have already voted.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Actually polling becomes better if you choose to use the EV results to guide likely voter sampling. Can get more costly though as you have to call more people to get results unless you throw EV (which you can actually check to see if voted) and absentee/election day sampling. Math and logistics get complicated that way.


At least in my swing state, the Trump campaign called regarding whether we had early voted yet (we had earlier that day) and then they asked if we voted for Trump.

So I think in swing states at least, the campaigns have a pretty good idea of who is early voting and who is not.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (ctrM5)

212 I hate Rush (band) with a burning passion rivaled only by the one in Charlie Sheens urethra.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (mfUOU)

213 That grift is dying other than the arms trade. Simply put, we cannot afford it anymore and a partly funded war with an ill prepared force results in something like the Afghan bugout which tends to depress the spirits for a repeat.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 04:34 PM (ctrM5)

We’re balls-deep in Ukraine, which is the biggest war in Europe since WWII. It’s made billions for the war pigs. How, exactly, is the grift ending? It’s accelerating.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 04:41 PM (FC8SQ)

214 I think we should dub Liz as Sofia, because shes as bloodthirsty as the Penguin character,

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:41 PM (pGTZo)

215 140 Tim Walz just called Elon Musk "That gay guy"


Well, if anyone knows gay it's a guy who drove 6 hours with a teen boy to see an Indigo Girls concert.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at November 01, 2024 04:41 PM (eb5mD)

216 These idiots are obviously panicking because they know Kamala/Walz is going to get crushed. They are throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks. It is hysterical to watch. The true leftist believers are happy but everyone else including independents are laughing at the Dem mess. Cue Nelson Muntz on steroids

Posted by: Smell the Glove at November 01, 2024 04:41 PM (O8bOp)

217 Voted today!

Posted by: Dr Spank at November 01, 2024 04:41 PM (0xo8i)

218 167. When you go to early vote, the first station at the poll scans your drivers license or state ID which has an identifier bar code on it. you also sign a voter card. Then you moved to station two which again takes your drivers license scans it again that goes into a computer program that then prints the appropriate individualized ballot for you, which includes your particular races for County and Township. You then take your ballot and go fill it out put it in a secrecy envelope and head to station number three .that station looks at the top of your ballot and at your Voter signature card you signed at station one to make sure you have the correct ballot which have a number that coordinates to your location .Once that is confirmed they send you off to go feed the ballot into the tabulator yourself.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (VHt2R)

219 Well, if anyone knows gay it's a guy who drove 6 hours with a teen boy to see an Indigo Girls concert.

Jerry Sandusky says Hi !!!

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (aSKII)

220 That, and theft from Jews in Hungary 1944-1945.
Posted by: Miklos knows
------
You would know more about that than I would though. Like Obama, Kamala, etc. Soros is one of those spectres that drifted about until they suddenly got power.

Resemble the legends of intel spooks where the whole CV has large gaps in public records.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (ctrM5)

221 Liberals - "Trump threatened to put Liz in front of a firing squad!"

Conservatives - "No he said she should fight ther wars she profits off of"

Me - "Either outcome works for me"

Posted by: Rbastid at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (p2WHH)

222 I can be stupid sometimes… I have 6 days of PTO that are take ‘em or lose ‘em before the end of the year. I think I’ll take November 6 off…. Stay up until 3am watching election returns. The reason this is stupid: There’s a strong possibility that’ll just be the start of ballot counting

I can’t wrap my brain around why people accept that it takes days and weeks to count. Channeling Allen Iverson: I mean come on, people, it’s counting we’re talking about. Counting!!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (O1oUp)

223 Evergreen:
If only we had quality candidates, this wouldn't happen.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (U4x6/)

224 So Kamala's closing argument is defending Liz Cheney? Doesn't seem like a strong close, but OK.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 01, 2024 04:43 PM (2UnvF)

225 This seems an obvious enough libel that they should be bankrupted for it.

Posted by: Thatch at November 01, 2024 04:43 PM (R2qGx)

226 131...She has to worry about inflation, open borders and crime?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2024 04:27 PM (MQJVv)

Jennie from the Hood is afraid of the stuff Diddy has on her. Or Epstein.

Or...both. I'll go with "both."

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 04:43 PM (Rbu5d)

227 Democrats are now trying the voter suppression op on various competitive House races. They’re trying to say select races are out of reach for Republicans.

Don’t buy it. Get out and vote now.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:44 PM (9PIn7)

228 1 class to go! It’s been pretty crowded in the classes today, especially since it’s Friday.

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:44 PM (7gm9V)

229 Was Walz using "gay" in the 90s way? When gay=stupid.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at November 01, 2024 04:44 PM (efuu+)

230 Why is it the assumption from the media that woman who are all voting early are voting for Commie-la?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 01, 2024 04:30 PM (MQJVv)

---------------

"Because conservative men don't let their wives drive, wear footwear, or show their faces in public -- let alone vote -- h8r!"

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 04:44 PM (Gvhfs)

231 Goldberg is a nepo baby who will never work a real day in his life.

Posted by: brak at November 01, 2024 04:45 PM (NGHTx)

232 >>> 197 'Scathing' takedown of Trump - "Every woman in this country and around the world will be denied health care an will DIE a horrible death if Trump is elected!"
Posted by: Celebrity at November 01, 2024 04:39 PM (Svrxu)

But if he's outlawed muhbortion worldwide that means he's defeated OMG Russia Russia Russia so that's good, right...?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:45 PM (0s6uJ)

233 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??

Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:45 PM (PCK5/)

234 You then take your ballot and go fill it out put it in a secrecy envelope and head to station number three .that station looks at the top of your ballot and at your Voter signature card you signed at station one to make sure you have the correct ballot which have a number that coordinates to your location .Once that is confirmed they send you off to go feed the ballot into the tabulator yourself.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (VHt2R)

Dang. In NC, you fill out your ballot and then walk over to the tabulator machine and push it in. The poll worker reminds you to wait until the tabulator prints out the receipt. You take it and off you go. No "secrecy" envelope.

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:45 PM (rj6Yv)

235 It’s been pretty crowded in the classes today, especially since it’s Friday.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:44 PM (7gm9V)


The word must've got around that you were handing out your leftover Hallowe'en treats.

Posted by: spindrift at November 01, 2024 04:45 PM (OguvZ)

236 A Statement From 60 Minutes

Former President Donald Trump's repeated claims against 60 Minutes are false.

• The interview was not doctored; and

• 60 Minutes did not hide any part of Vice President Kamala Harris's answer to the question at issue.

60 Minutes fairly presented the interview to inform the viewing audience, and not to mislead it. The lawsuit Trump has brought today against CBS is completely without merit and we will vigorously defend against it.

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Well, I'm glad we got that settled.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Covfefe Today, Covfefe Tomorrow, Covfefe Forever! at November 01, 2024 04:46 PM (L/fGl)

237 its curious how little we know about soros or schwab, the rival bond villains, he went to LSE he got into banking then the Hedge Fund, then he cracked the Pound

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:46 PM (pGTZo)

238 Even if women are out voting men in early voting, by 10%, the number by itself means nothing. Thuggery always out vote men in early voting, so even though they're +10% that might be down from past years.

The fact there Kamala Twitter accounts are grasping at these things makes me believe that A) the numbers are bad compared to 2020 and 2016, and B) they know they're losing.

Based on what they're doing in Bucks County PA, they are showing their desperation, as they're getting sloppy and not hiding their attempts at voter suppression.

Posted by: Rbastid at November 01, 2024 04:46 PM (p2WHH)

239 235
The word must've got around that you were handing out your leftover Hallowe'en treats.
Posted by: spindrift

Bowl is almost empty! Yay!

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:46 PM (7gm9V)

240 Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (VHt2R)

_________________________

Thanks, Jen. That makes sense in a government bureaucratic nightmare sort of way

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 04:46 PM (dIske)

241 AOC says Mr. Emhoff is the very definition of modern masculinity.

Of course, with our recent lack of GAINZZZ threads, we may be slipping that way, as well.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (a3Q+t)

242 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??

*raises hand*

If I know by 9 or 10, great, but otherwise, what's the point?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (xCA6C)

243 >>> 207 A lot of us initially bought into the wars because we believed the things we were being told. There was also a tremendous surge of patriotism after 9-11 which helped. We won the wars they asked us to fight rather quickly. Then people like Cheney stepped in to change the mission and make them forever wars. That led to mission creep and the 20 plus years of war we experienced. They own it because they led it, propagandized it and funded it over all other things. All the men and women who needlessly died during that period after we accomplished the initial objectives are on their head and jackasses like Jonah who supported it. Trump is 100% right and I haven’t seen a person yet who disagrees. That is except Flop sweat Jonah and his friends
Posted by: Marcus T at November 01, 2024 04:40 PM (9PIn7)

I wanted to believe them; things like the "Patriot" Act, and "islham is a religion of peace" and of course the BS rules-of-engagement were ... not helpful.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (0s6uJ)

244 43 >>> 11
==
Guys, go vote please. We can't early vote in AL, but I promise I will be voting on a state where my vote truly doesn't matter.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (ClBAL)

Imagine the shrieking if OrangeManBad wins the Electoral College and "wins" the popular vote too. Yes, it does matter.

---

Keep in mind: Oregon, California, Washington and Colorado all have laws that award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (q1ZgM)

245 except we have the receipts of what you actually put on the air, vs the interview, (redacted redacted) in another language

Posted by: no 6 at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (pGTZo)

246 We’re balls-deep in Ukraine, which is the biggest war in Europe since WWII. It’s made billions for the war pigs. How, exactly, is the grift ending? It’s accelerating.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director

We had a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit last fiscal year which we borrowed about 1/3 of the budget. Not sustainable whether Trump or Kamala is head honcho as it will shortly introduce a sovereign debt crisis when no one wants to buy Fed paper without a stiff hike in interest rates. Then comes the crash in the stock market and trade in collectibles etc.

Biden deficits are about 7.5 trillion and Trump's was about 6 trillion (over half from covid year 2020-3.3 trillion). We have run out of runway to continue and something gotta give and few people actually vote for defense spending compared with social benefits. Reason why Europe's defense spending collapsed.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (ctrM5)

247 I can’t wrap my brain around why people accept that it takes days and weeks to count.

C'mon, man... The average precinct in the US has 1100 voters. The numbers are staggering!

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (AGNk7)

248 Was Walz using "gay" in the 90s way? When gay=stupid.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at November 01, 2024 04:44 PM


I think he was using it as the left always uses it against their enemies. Gay = homosexual, which is bad, which is what most of these people believe in the privacy of their own heads.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (kgE5c)

249 "Every woman in this country and around the world will be denied health care an will DIE a horrible death if Trump is elected!"

this is my wife's Facebook feed right now

(she's voting Trump but if it knows you're a woman you get nonstop with these ads)

Posted by: brak at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (NGHTx)

250 185 Did tiny balls Walz really say that Musk is gay? For real?
_______

I'm not gay. You're gay.

Posted by: Timmy Walz at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (Svrxu)

251 229 Was Walz using "gay" in the 90s way? When gay=stupid.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at November 01, 2024 04:44 PM (efuu+)

Yes, and he confirms it saying those in “whatever name of town” understands what I mean by gay. So twice. He said it twice.

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (7gm9V)

252 >>>>Dang. In NC, you fill out your ballot and then walk over to the tabulator machine and push it in. The poll worker reminds you to wait until the tabulator prints out the receipt. You take it and off you go. No "secrecy" envelope.
Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:45 PM (rj6Yv)
******
Interesting, I voted in NC, but didn't get a receipt.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (bon9i)

253 233 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??
Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:45

Election night is like the Super Bowl for me. I'll be up all night. Unless...things look bad.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (efuu+)

254 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??
Posted by: tubal

I confidently predict multiple epic-threads

Bar here will be abundantly stocked

Posted by: Miklos prognosticates at November 01, 2024 04:49 PM (khrpa)

255 If Trump wins the "Martians will Invade the Earth" like they did in 1953 with the "War of The Worlds" !@!!!!!!!!!

Only I can save the world with my Cackle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Kamal Harris at November 01, 2024 04:49 PM (1MSOJ)

256 Anyone have a follow up to the tweet yesterday about texting every Republican in Bucks Co PA?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at November 01, 2024 04:49 PM (U4x6/)

257 from the Rogan/Vance transcript:

first I was so pissed but then I go into like fight ORF flight mode with my kids I'm like you know all right kids you
17:15
know we were at a we were at a mini golf place in Cincinnati Ohio I grab my kids up throw them in the car go home and
17:21
load all my guns and basically stand like a centry in our front door

Posted by: m at November 01, 2024 04:49 PM (VnUSN)

258 Who knew that Liberal Fascism would be an autobiography?

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 01, 2024 04:49 PM (f1kZG)

259 Keep in mind: Oregon, California, Washington and Colorado all have laws that award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (q1ZgM)

Those laws are in effect for this election?? If so that’s delicious… Trump could win an EC landslide with the EVs of those states

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:49 PM (O1oUp)

260 Then comes the crash in the stock market and trade in collectibles etc.
Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM


So, I should sell my Beanie Babies now?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 01, 2024 04:50 PM (a3Q+t)

261 Keep in mind: Oregon, California, Washington and Colorado all have laws that award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (q1ZgM)

Usually those statutes included caveats that "X" number of states have to sign on to the compact before the "law" takes effect.

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:50 PM (rj6Yv)

262 its curious how little we know about soros or schwab, the rival bond villains,

Trust us, when it's our job to tell you about them, we will.

Posted by: The MFM at November 01, 2024 04:50 PM (c5wrR)

263 When I grow up, I want to ne Delta Male like Tim Walz...

Posted by: Tim Emhoff at November 01, 2024 04:50 PM (1MSOJ)

264 If Vance hadn't left the golf park, and God forbid there had in fact been some sort of coordinated effort going on and Vance or one of his kids had gotten hurt (or killed), the media would have lambasted him forever for abject stupidity and complete lack of judgment.

Jonah, I read a couple of your books; they were pretty good. What the heck happened to you? Broken is the best and most charitable word that describes you.

Posted by: RM at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (WXucK)

265 Keep in mind: Oregon, California, Washington and Colorado all have laws that award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (q1ZgM)

IIRC, those statutes only kick in if 270+ EVs are awarded thusly.

And as ace has pointed out before, those laws will never benefit Republicans, only Democrats. Federal judges would slap them down so hard if it looked like CA’s EVs were going to be awarded to a Republican who didn’t carry CA.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (FC8SQ)

266 No secrecy envelope in TX, but otherwise the same/similar.

Posted by: Angzarr the Cromulent at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (XMwZJ)

267 Fat Joney, a warmongering chicken hawk, just like the others at NR. Never again.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (TN5A0)

268 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??

it's not like we'll know anything that night anyway, or the next for that mater

Posted by: brak at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (NGHTx)

269 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??

Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:45 PM (PCK5/)

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Will be reading the comments here and tuning into Bongino who'll be hosting a podcast on Rumble with various guests like Julie Kelly and Mike Benz.

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (Gvhfs)

270 233 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??
Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 04:45

Election night is like the Super Bowl for me. I'll be up all night. Unless...things look bad.
Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara
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Same. Projection screen will be down, bunting, patriotic cups, gear, etc., and as Linus mentioned upthread perhaps taking the next day off from work.

Posted by: scampydog at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (2bFN5)

271 Here is the Tim Walz gay video

https://tinyurl.com/mrxyet7a

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (7gm9V)

272 Once Fox calls Arizona, it's over, man.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (a3Q+t)

273 242 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??

*raises hand*

If I know by 9 or 10, great, but otherwise, what's the point?
Posted by: Archimedes at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (xCA6C)
I will, as long as I can sober up by 0400 Thursday.

Posted by: Eromero at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (LHPAg)

274 >>> 244 43 >>> 11
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Guys, go vote please. We can't early vote in AL, but I promise I will be voting on a state where my vote truly doesn't matter.
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:08 PM (ClBAL)

Imagine the shrieking if OrangeManBad wins the Electoral College and "wins" the popular vote too. Yes, it does matter.

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Keep in mind: Oregon, California, Washington and Colorado all have laws that award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (q1ZgM)

OR = 8, CO = 10, WA = 12, CA = 54

84 total

DO EET

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:51 PM (0s6uJ)

275 Then comes the crash in the stock market and trade in collectibles etc.

*looks at storage locker full of Franklin Mint Civil War chess sets*

Shit.

Posted by: spindrift at November 01, 2024 04:52 PM (OguvZ)

276 AZ ballot update


Gop +180k


Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at November 01, 2024 04:52 PM (YKOxL)

277 234 You then take your ballot and go fill it out put it in a secrecy envelope and head to station number three .that station looks at the top of your ballot and at your Voter signature card you signed at station one to make sure you have the correct ballot which have a number that coordinates to your location .Once that is confirmed they send you off to go feed the ballot into the tabulator yourself.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (VHt2R)

Dang. In NC, you fill out your ballot and then walk over to the tabulator machine and push it in. The poll worker reminds you to wait until the tabulator prints out the receipt. You take it and off you go. No "secrecy" envelope.

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In Oregon, we vote by mail. You fill out your ballot, put it in a secrecy envelope and then into another blue envelope and then you take it to the post office or a drop box. Then the all of the blue envelopes are taken to the incinerator in Woodburn. After that, truck loads of ballots with the "proper" results are taken to be counted.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:52 PM (q1ZgM)

278 I wanted to believe them; things like the "Patriot" Act, and "islham is a religion of peace" and of course the BS rules-of-engagement were ... not helpful.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (0s6uJ)


I did not. I was watching the stupid Patriot Act pass through, and screaming at anyone that listened - "do you think you'll stay in control of this ".

I voted "W" with my first vote - because Clinton / Gore were so bad. I voted "W" the second time only because the DNC picked the worst guy possible. I stayed home during Obama / McCain - because one flavor of statist isn't any better than the other.

I'll vote Trump a third time - pretty sure I picked the winner the previous two.

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:52 PM (aSKII)

279 Interesting, I voted in NC, but didn't get a receipt.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 01, 2024 04:48 PM (bon9i)

Dunno. It might depend on the county. Mine looked like a store receipt. If you're concerned, call you county's board of elections.

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:53 PM (rj6Yv)

280 >>A Statement From 60 Minutes

Former President Donald Trump's repeated claims against 60 Minutes are false.

• The interview was not doctored



IF you are Defending...you are losing.

But, why not release the full transcripts and Video to PROVE your assertions?
How would that hurt your claims?

Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 04:53 PM (z/jjr)

281 You all need to brace yourselves and sit down for this news.

The Canadian Broadcasting Company is actually lying about this issue too and airing Trump's words out of context.

The CBC!

That bastion of integrity.....

Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 04:53 PM (jvJvP)

282 I look over the comments here, and all I see is a vast sea of garbage.

My word as a Biden.

Posted by: Jos. Robinette Biden at November 01, 2024 04:54 PM (a3Q+t)

283 Anyone here not going to stay up most of the night of November 5 watching election returns??
Posted by: tubal
___

Probably.

I think even if Trump has a clean win past the margin of fraud, Kamala won't concede.

And you damn well know the networks won't call an election until everyone on the DNC allows them to call it.

I'm sort of shocked Hillary called Trump on Election Night to concede in 2016, I doubt we ever see that again unless it's a blowout.

It's probably going to be something where we have two weeks of craziness like we did last time.

Posted by: Blago at November 01, 2024 04:54 PM (wMRY8)

284 I will, as long as I can sober up by 0400 Thursday.
Posted by: Eromero

Damn

Just remembered that I have a doctor's appointment on Wednesday.

Posted by: Miklos should probably reschedule that at November 01, 2024 04:54 PM (khrpa)

285 I'm late so it's probably been mentioned that on the 13th before Trump was shot, he told Vance he should come to Butler and be named VP. Then he said, no, we should do it right plan it out better.

This is not a tiny detail.

Posted by: InoGarbage at November 01, 2024 04:54 PM (53oGX)

286 Trump Makes Standard-Issue "Chickenhawk" Argument Against Liz Cheney
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That was my take as well. Nothing much more than w ever heard before.

Posted by: Axeman at November 01, 2024 04:55 PM (wRjjz)

287 Jonah, I read a couple of your books; they were pretty good. What the heck happened to you?

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He made the mistake of plagiarizing Ace (his political McGuffin theory) sans credit -- and thought "The Trump Curse" was bad ...

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 04:55 PM (Gvhfs)

288 Always remember Jonah was hired to babysit NRO on his mom's name recognition because of her advice to Linda Tripp to record Monica Lewinsky.

He proceeded to regale us with pop culture references, his talking sofa, and occasional stained dress quips.

At age 32 I really should have known better than to spend my time reading his drivel.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at November 01, 2024 04:55 PM (GD2xa)

289 Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:52 PM (q1ZgM)

Jen was responding to my question about how the down vote worked there since they sent her to an urban precinct and not the one in her rural township.

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 04:55 PM (dIske)

290 240. The process, when followed , f doesn’t allow cheating at the voter end. Where that occurs is in places like Detroit, where poll workers don’t show up for training, don’t have equipment tested and ready to go on election day and don’t frankly give a shit what they do to conduct the election. then you add in dominion tabulators and a Democrat administration that vehemently denies there’s anything wrong with the tabulators or computer programs and you have what we have here in Michigan.

Posted by: Jen the original at November 01, 2024 04:56 PM (VHt2R)

291 Alright, let me go move some bodies. 🤣😂

Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:56 PM (2N3ca)

292 Nate Silver makes an interesting point All the polls are saying the same thing. It’s a tie. Statically polls should have a wide variance. He’s saying the pollsters are taking the safe way out and saying it’s a tie, that way if it’s close they can all say they were right regardless who wins.

Posted by: Reality at November 01, 2024 04:56 PM (KBauD)

293 I can’t wrap my brain around why people accept that it takes days and weeks to count.
______

Progressives are all about progress. You don't want to go back to same day results like we had in 2012 when blacks were second-class citizens and women couldn't get abortions and be a racist and misogynist, do you?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at November 01, 2024 04:56 PM (Svrxu)

294 So, about Vance - his reaction makes perfect sense if he knew he was on the short list for VP, let alone if he know he *was* the pick.

To me it makes it even more sketchy that the Sekrit Cervix didn't bother pulling Kamala or DOCTOR Jill off the stages in their events during the same time.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:57 PM (0s6uJ)

295 Keep in mind: Oregon, California, Washington and Colorado all have laws that award all of their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (q1ZgM)

Usually those statutes included caveats that "X" number of states have to sign on to the compact before the "law" takes effect.
Posted by: mrp

==============

They take effect when the combined total EVs of the states in the compact total 270+.

It's based upon the premis that donks always win the popular vote.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 04:57 PM (/lPRQ)

296 I won't be up past 10:00 (left coast time) on Tuesday. Regardless of who wins I need to be at work the next day, unless we immediately go CW 2.0 between 10 PM and 6 AM.

Posted by: PabloD at November 01, 2024 04:57 PM (+uE99)

297 Alright, let me go move some bodies. 🤣😂
Posted by: Piper

A True Friend

Posted by: Innocent Lil' Miklos at November 01, 2024 04:57 PM (khrpa)

298 Tim Walz just called Elon Musk "That gay guy"

With 12 children


lol. "Why so homophobic, Walz? Don't you know that it's a slur to call things you disapprove of 'gay'?"

Posted by: FeatherBlade at November 01, 2024 04:58 PM (hB7mE)

299 >>>Dunno. It might depend on the county. Mine looked like a store receipt. If you're concerned, call you county's board of elections.
Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 04:53 PM (rj6Yv
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Thanks, I’m not worried but my home supervisor has expressed concerns. That was my advice to her as well.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 01, 2024 04:58 PM (bon9i)

300 Usually those statutes included caveats that "X" number of states have to sign on to the compact before the "law" takes effect.
Posted by: mrp


Any state can award their EVs as they choose.

I honestly - and I am not shitting - wish my state would shit-can popular vote and just do a voice vote of sitting Senators and Reps.

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:58 PM (aSKII)

301 >>> 280
==
IF you are Defending...you are losing.

But, why not release the full transcripts and Video to PROVE your assertions?
How would that hurt your claims?
Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 04:53 PM (z/jjr)

Because it's a threat to National Security, just like releasing the J6 video would be.

Posted by: see BS at November 01, 2024 04:58 PM (0s6uJ)

302 >>>We had a 1.8 trillion dollar deficit last fiscal year which we borrowed about 1/3 of the budget. Not sustainable whether Trump or Kamala is head honcho as it will shortly introduce a sovereign debt crisis when no one wants to buy Fed paper without a stiff hike in interest rates. Then comes the crash in the stock market and trade in collectibles etc.

They’ll just keep printing money. I agree that hyperinflationary crisis is what awaits us, but it’s too late to stop it. We’ll never pay off the debt.

It’s looting the treasury from now until China stops accepting digital USDs in exchange for container ships of cheap crap. When that final veneer of prosperity withers and Americans can no longer binge shop at big box stores, the social fabric will rend.

But that could be a decade or more away. Until then, the MIC is a vital part of Globohomo empire. Neither Dems nor Reps care what voters want. Uniparty gets its wars.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 04:59 PM (FC8SQ)

303 I think even if Trump has a clean win past the margin of fraud, Kamala won't concede.

Offer her supporters double-or-nothing: paper ballots, ID, one day.

Posted by: t-bird at November 01, 2024 04:59 PM (c5wrR)

304 282 I look over the comments here, and all I see is a vast sea of garbage.

My word as a Biden.
Posted by: Jos. Robinette Biden at November 01, 2024 04:54 PM (a3Q+t)

____________________________

Disregard the previous...I have a stutter. What I meant to say is that my tapioca snack pack fell on the floor, five seconds have passed, so it is now garbage. It is a vast sea of garbage because I've dropped a lot of them.

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 04:59 PM (dIske)

305 Same. Projection screen will be down, bunting, patriotic cups, gear, etc., and as Linus mentioned upthread perhaps taking the next day off from work.
Posted by: scampydog at November 01, 2024 04:51

I always forget to ask for the following day off. One of these elections I might actually remember.

Posted by: Scarlett O'Hara at November 01, 2024 04:59 PM (efuu+)

306 The Religion of Peace statement was given at a time we were attempting to put together a coalition of Muslim countries for Operation Iraqi freedom and other 9/11 actions against terrorists. I wouldn’t have recommended it but I understand.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (D6PGr)

307 Imagine the shrieking if OrangeManBad wins the Electoral College and "wins" the popular vote too. Yes, it does matter.

That's the only way my ballot in MA means anything.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (kgE5c)

308 Nate Silver makes an interesting point All the polls are saying the same thing. It’s a tie. Statically polls should have a wide variance. He’s saying the pollsters are taking the safe way out and saying it’s a tie, that way if it’s close they can all say they were right regardless who wins.
Posted by: Reality

____

I would say the same about Nate Silver.

I think final prediction was 54:46 odds for a Trump win?

That's basically close enough to where if he's wrong either way, he can't get too much shit.

But considering his audience and his obvious political biases, I tend to think he had a bigger incentive to put his finger on the scale for Harris than he would the other way around.

Posted by: Blago at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (wMRY8)

309 Which is not an unreasonable reaction with the info he had at the time.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 01, 2024 04:16 PM (Evo1G)

When the GloboHomo fascists take a shot at the candidate, it's reasonable to expect they might also take a shot at his presumed successor.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (etmRg)

310
Dodgers win world series: Riot, burn, loot with joy

Kamala Wins: Riot, burn, loot with joy

Trump wins: Riot, burn, loot with anger

Posted by: Frank Barone at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (+oR7L)

311 My county is old school. No machines. Get a ballot, fill ovals with a black pen. Put the ballot into a box.

Now what happens to that box? Anyone’s guess. But at least there’s no funny business with Dominion counting a Trunp vote as a Harris vote or things like that.

Posted by: Reality at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (KBauD)

312 Alright, let me go move some bodies. 🤣😂
Posted by: Piper at November 01, 2024 04:56 PM


There are a lot of good lawyers in the Horde...just sayin'.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (kgE5c)

313 But he's suggesting a father of young children got scared and just took off and abandoned his young children?
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We just need better candidates.

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (lX8VI)

314 I think even if Trump has a clean win past the margin of fraud, Kamala won't concede.

Posted by: Blago at November 01, 2024 04:54 PM (wMRY

______________________

As current VP she has to certify the results. If she refuses, get out the popcorn. The whole dem party shares that black eye.

Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 05:01 PM (dIske)

315 The Religion of Peace statement was given at a time we were attempting to put together a coalition of Muslim countries for Operation Iraqi freedom and other 9/11 actions against terrorists. I wouldn’t have recommended it but I understand.

A coalition of what ? All the same countries that were represented - and funded - by the same fuckers that pulled off the attack ?

No. "W" was an ass-hole. Anyone that supported him after that was either a willful or ignorant ass-hole. We are here, in no small part, because of him and them.

Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 05:02 PM (aSKII)

316 But that could be a decade or more away. Until then, the MIC is a vital part of Globohomo empire. Neither Dems nor Reps care what voters want. Uniparty gets its wars.
Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director
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Current rate of deficit growth, less than four years. With Trump we have a sliver of chance if he goes balls to the wall with growth and preventing increases in spending. With Kamala, it will be Thelma and Louise accelerating over the cliff.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 05:02 PM (ctrM5)

317 The baby aborters have their sights on you.

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 04:09 PM (nBRaJ)

More like on the kids. They can only grow by acquiring new cult members in the schools and companies.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 01, 2024 04:14 PM (n7h9X)

I mean for death.

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 05:02 PM (lX8VI)

318 Cbc.....Trump is escalating his violent rhetoric.

I celebrate like a Palestinian on 9-11 whenever these sub-human journalists die....

Posted by: Stateless at November 01, 2024 05:02 PM (jvJvP)

319 It's based upon the premis that donks always win the popular vote.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at November 01, 2024 04:57 PM (/lPRQ)

And if they lose the popular vote, the compact will be nullified by Federal courts. “National popular vote” is just a tool for helping the DNC. It will never be used to help a Republican, as ace has said many times before.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 05:02 PM (FC8SQ)

320 BTW haven't the mainstream Left been calling for the direct execution of every Republican since Reagan or is it me?

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 05:03 PM (lX8VI)

321 >>> 317 The baby aborters have their sights on you.

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 04:09 PM (nBRaJ)

More like on the kids. They can only grow by acquiring new cult members in the schools and companies.
Posted by: Oldcat at November 01, 2024 04:14 PM (n7h9X)

I mean for death.
Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 05:02 PM (lX8VI)

Hi!

Posted by: Canadia's MAID at November 01, 2024 05:03 PM (0s6uJ)

322 263 When I grow up, I want to ne Delta Male like Tim Walz...

Posted by: Tim Emhoff at November 01, 2024 04:50 PM (1MSOJ)
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Why not an Epsilon-Semi-Moron?

(I think that's what they were called in Brave New World - the ones steeped in alcohol and destined for the lowest jobs)

Posted by: Ciampino - IOW democrats at November 01, 2024 05:03 PM (i0xsb)

323 Trump is no deficit hawk. Never has been.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 05:03 PM (D6PGr)

324 I think even if Trump has a clean win past the margin of fraud, Kamala won't concede.

"protecting our democracy"

Posted by: brak at November 01, 2024 05:03 PM (NGHTx)

325 .......Then the all of the blue envelopes are taken to the incinerator in Woodburn. After that, truck loads of ballots with the "proper" results are taken to be counted.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks
________

Well, we do have a few "whereases and wherefors" to make it more official, but yes, that is how we drew up the law.

Posted by: Oregon State Judiciary at November 01, 2024 05:03 PM (Svrxu)

326 "islham is a religion of peace" and of course the BS rules-of-engagement were ... not helpful.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 04:47 PM (0s6uJ)

I watched Bush's speech live, when he said that.
Right then I knew it was going to be bad.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 05:04 PM (Rbu5d)

327 >>>>As current VP she has to certify the results. If she refuses, get out the popcorn. The whole dem party shares that black eye.
Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 05:01 PM (dIske)
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As if they care, they’re loons as are their constituents.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 01, 2024 05:04 PM (bon9i)

328 Odds that Harris would ever certify a Trump win?

Posted by: tubal at November 01, 2024 05:04 PM (PCK5/)

329 I have a friend who I spoke to today. He’s overwhelmingly confident of a Trump victory and one of the main reasons for his optimism that he cites is the full blown meltdown of the usual suspects in the media in the last week. I’d like to think he’s right since meltdowns are happening

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (O1oUp)
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He should be. Every dem talking point has been shot down. Women are outvoting men!!! Um not by as much as the dems are saying, and they traditionally over vote men in early voting.

GOP are cannibalizing their regular voters who are voting early!!! No, those are less likely and first time voters.

And all of their desperate claims about who said what are blowing up in their face. Dem enthusiasm is down. They are behind in early voting. The NRC appears to have a heartbeat.

Posted by: Black JEM at November 01, 2024 05:04 PM (GZYu7)

330 (I think that's what they were called in Brave New World - the ones steeped in alcohol and destined for the lowest jobs)
Posted by: Ciampino

wait...I am steeping myself in alcohol

Posted by: Miklos, like the Drinking Lamp, is LIT at November 01, 2024 05:04 PM (khrpa)

331 But considering his audience and his obvious political biases, I tend to think he had a bigger incentive to put his finger on the scale for Harris than he would the other way around.
Posted by: Blago at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (wMRY

No. He's better off doing it this way. If Kamala wins, no one who matters is gonna give a shit about the predictions. They will be too busy partying. Either way he looks "fair" after getting Hillary so wrong.

Posted by: ... at November 01, 2024 05:05 PM (lX8VI)

332 >>> 323 Trump is no deficit hawk. Never has been.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 05:03 PM (D6PGr)

Certainly not in his first term, but it's interesting that he has been making noises about having Elon as an efficiency advisor, and Elon says he could cut ~$2T from total spending. Something seems to have changed.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 05:05 PM (0s6uJ)

333 Nood Biden's stenographers

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at November 01, 2024 05:05 PM (VNX3d)

334 nood garbage edit
er... garbage garbage edit

Posted by: andycanuck (hovnC) at November 01, 2024 05:06 PM (hovnC)

335 222...
I can’t wrap my brain around why people accept that it takes days and weeks to count. Channeling Allen Iverson: I mean come on, people, it’s counting we’re talking about. Counting!!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:42 PM (O1oUp)

My understanding is that in India, a country of eleventybillion or so, vote results are done the same day.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 05:06 PM (Rbu5d)

336 Jonah's instinct for whether a story might be true or not is impeccable, witness his reaction to Hunter's laptop

Don't forget his pearl-clutching piss-fit when a couple of high school kids smiled in the face of a psycho hobo pounding a drum in DC.

NatReview utterly torched any kind of import and earned every measure of contempt after that.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 01, 2024 05:06 PM (IG4Id)

337 Nate Silver was the only major media polling guy who have Trump any chance in 2016. He had it at 30% Trunp. And he got a ton of shit from the left for giving him any chance above 0.

Posted by: Reality at November 01, 2024 05:06 PM (KBauD)

338 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 01, 2024 05:05 PM (0s6uJ)

This is true and I hope it comes to fruition.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at November 01, 2024 05:07 PM (D6PGr)

339 They take effect when the combined total EVs of the states in the compact total 270+.

It's based upon the premis that donks always win the popular vote.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
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No, we sail into a constitutional crisis because all state compacts must be approved by Congress prior to being created. This one wasn't and a mere compact cannot circumvent federal law and the Constitution because of the Supremacy Clause. Fedgov still has the final say over how federal officers are elected --states can only manage the time, place, and manner of elections which may not include extending the vote past the federal election date (see 5th Circuit ruling this week).

More to the point, the Constitution (and federal law itself) still gives state legislatures ultimate control over the award of electors. A state leg can even set aside the slate of electors that the voters and the SoS have apparently chosen if they wish.

Posted by: whig at November 01, 2024 05:07 PM (ctrM5)

340 >>>>As current VP she has to certify the results. If she refuses, get out the popcorn. The whole dem party shares that black eye.
Posted by: Orson at November 01, 2024 05:01 PM (dIske)
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As if they care, they’re loons as are their constituents.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 01, 2024 05:04 PM (bon9i)

If Harris refuses to certify the election results, then the election goes to Congress, where the Representatives vote their state by delegation.. Check the US map - do the Dems want that?

Posted by: mrp at November 01, 2024 05:07 PM (rj6Yv)

341 I have a friend who I spoke to today. He’s overwhelmingly confident of a Trump victory and one of the main reasons for his optimism that he cites is the full blown meltdown of the usual suspects in the media in the last week. I’d like to think he’s right since meltdowns are happening
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 01, 2024 04:24 PM (O1oUp)

More than just meltdowns...increasingly there are guys talking off script (like Cuban) or asking Kamala semi-tough questions without pushback. The Dem train is not working like an orderly machine this time and this can't be a good sign for Harris.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 01, 2024 05:08 PM (n7h9X)

342 Any state can award their EVs as they choose.

I honestly - and I am not shitting - wish my state would shit-can popular vote and just do a voice vote of sitting Senators and Reps.
Posted by: History - Read It at November 01, 2024 04:58 PM (aSKII)

In theory: sure. In the past, the could do that.

In practice: would never be allowed. We’re two justices away from SCOTUS saying the electoral college violates the 14th Amendment.

Posted by: Disinterested FDA Director and Pfizer Board Member at November 01, 2024 05:09 PM (FC8SQ)

343 My understanding is that in India, a country of eleventybillion or so, vote results are done the same day.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 05:06 PM (Rbu5d)

Up until 2020 Americans knew who won our presidential election by midnight at the latest.

Posted by: Sassy Fred at November 01, 2024 05:09 PM (RMjVS)

344 192
I'm so physically ill from blackpilling right now that I just want Harris to hurry up and win so we can get on the road to disaster, and, with any luck, the next hot Civil War.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's office at November 01, 2024 04:37 PM (T3es0)

I understand this, but I'm not there. I'm still hopeful that a Trump victory will be obvious, and that the cheat will be even more obvious. I want the joy of knowing we won, before the hot war gets ramped up.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! Catz for Trump! at November 01, 2024 05:10 PM (OX9vb)

345 All this bullshit that Harris is surging is just that - bullshit. It's being done to prevent a down ballot wipeout which would happen if their voters think Trump has it all sewn up. Nothing has happened in the last week to suggest Harris has any sort of momentum. In fact, it's the opposite.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 01, 2024 05:11 PM (2UnvF)

346 When you called that guy Gay you didn't actually mean he was really Gay did you because calling someone Gay when they are Gay is so not Gay.

Get it?

Posted by: Leftist at November 01, 2024 05:11 PM (QB+5g)

347 I have a friend among the Jivaro in the most remote part of the western Amazon basin. He hasn't had access to news about our election, so I agreed to provide a summary:

Liar! No you're lying! You lying fascist! Garbage! Nazi! You will destroy our country! No, you will! Racist, Latinx homophobe! You hate America! No, you do!

My friend thanked me the update, & offered to lend me some curare-tipped arrows.

Posted by: mnw at November 01, 2024 05:12 PM (NLIak)

348 My understanding is that in India, a country of eleventybillion or so, vote results are done the same day.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at November 01, 2024 05:06 PM (Rbu5d)

Up until 2020 Americans knew who won our presidential election by midnight at the latest.
Posted by: Sassy Fred at November 01, 2024 05:09 PM (RMjVS)

---------------

The rather large State of Florida will have known election results election night.

Odd that ... NOT!

Posted by: ShainS -- In Trump's America, Garbage Throws YOU Out! at November 01, 2024 05:13 PM (Gvhfs)

349 >>A Statement From 60 Minutes

Former President Donald Trump's repeated claims against 60 Minutes are false.

• The interview was not doctored



IF you are Defending...you are losing.

But, why not release the full transcripts and Video to PROVE your assertions?
How would that hurt your claims?
Posted by: garrett at November 01, 2024 04:53 PM (z/jjr)

This is obvious nonsense, even if not materially changed, there are going to be pauses, breaks and the like that would be changed.

Or are they claiming that the commercials were played during the interview as well.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 01, 2024 05:17 PM (n7h9X)

350 Now what happens to that box? Anyone’s guess. But at least there’s no funny business with Dominion counting a Trunp vote as a Harris vote or things like that.
Posted by: Reality at November 01, 2024 05:00 PM (KBauD)

Brian in New Orleans is going to have a sad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 01, 2024 05:22 PM (w9q2j)

351 My twin brother won a silver star, a bronze star with a v and a presidential commendation. He was on a kill list for several years after he got back from Viet Nam.

Imagine what I think of Tampon Tim.

Posted by: Wenda at November 01, 2024 05:35 PM (o1NTc)

352 Regarding abortion, what is happening in Florida is that
pro-lifers are paying for the airtime but are not responding to most of the lies we're being bombarded with. They're just running the same old ad over and over again. It's maddening.

Millions of Floridians probably think that, under current law, a 10-year-old rape victim would be forced to carry to term, and that there are no exceptions for rape or incest under current law. None of which is true.

Posted by: girldog at November 01, 2024 05:37 PM (ANtE4)

353 Seems to me handing out candy at a fitness establishment is kind of like handing out martinis at an AA meeting.

Posted by: Bad At Similes at November 01, 2024 05:38 PM (nS6qG)

354 “He's not and never has been. He has always been a liberal who grifted the conservative establishment “

Add Michael J. Totten to the list.

Posted by: 13times at November 01, 2024 05:58 PM (Y/Z+w)

355 At this point I don’t want Trump to win because of his presidency, i want him to win, hopefully bigly, so we can rub it in the faces of every one of these fucking degenerates. I want to see these scumbags broken. I want to see Colbert cry,

Posted by: Dirk Steed at November 01, 2024 06:48 PM (toZgo)

356 “He's not and never has been. He has always been a liberal who grifted the conservative establishment “

Add Michael J. Totten to the list.

...

I have personal acquaintance with Totten, and I object to anyone who calls him a grifter. He has always been openly liberal, and he told me himself he is a relentless self-promoter.

But he's sincere. A grifter is cynical and boring. Michael J. Totten is more interesting than that.

Posted by: Tom Perry at November 01, 2024 07:49 PM (MX0bI)

357 after Buckley pass NRO was quickly taken over by controlled opposition ... NRO has been a Judas for a decade ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at November 04, 2024 12:06 PM (DBAaD)

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