Liz Cheney: Anti-Abortion Laws in the States Have Gone Too Far, We Have To Give Women the "Care They Need"

Well.

Not unexpected. It's good to have one's intuitions confirmed.

Josh Kraushaar
@JoshKraushaar
Questions from town hall with Harris/Cheney in Malvern, PA this afternoon sounds like they're coming from typical partisan Democrats, not from cross-pressured Nikki Haley acolytes.

Josh Kraushaar
@JoshKraushaar
Another example of this: Cheney, who has always been a pro-lifer throughout her political career, said the Dobbs decision went too far during the PA event.

Via Twitchy, the Guardian writes that Cheney is telling people to support Kamala Harris to protect women against anti-abortion laws.

Liz Cheney, a former Republican congresswoman and longtime opponent of abortion rights, on Monday condemned Republican-imposed bans on the procedure and urged conservatives to support Democrat Kamala Harris for US president.
Cheney was speaking during three joint events with the vice-president in three swing states aimed at prising suburban Republican voters away from party nominee Donald Trump. She has become the Democrat's most prominent conservative surrogate and is rumoured to be in contention for a seat in a potential Harris cabinet.

Via SamJ. of Twitchy, Charles Cooke tweeted about what an incredible volte face this is for Cheney, who previously demanded an absolute ban on abortion at the federal level from "the moment of fertilization."

Andrew Egger of cuckblog The Bulwark attempts to femsplain Cheney's incredible flip-flop from 100% absolutist pro-life to claiming we need to roll back state limitations so that women can get "the care they need."

Andrew Egger
@EggerDC
But Cheney didn't say Dobbs went too far. She disapproved of some of the state-level bans which followed. ("Dobbs went too far" is sort of a nonsensical statement--all it did was change the regulatory environment.)

So the claim of the NeverTrump liberals (they're neither conservative nor Republican and it's beyond time they stopped pretending otherwise) is that Cheney doesn't oppose Dobbs itself, but merely abortion limits (limits, not bans) that Dobbs allowed the states to pass.

If she's against the states limiting abortion, then she's actually against Dobbs. If she is demanding that states simply encode the Roe v. Wade regime through their own laws, then what the hell is her objection to Roe v. Wade in the first place? She just wants states to protect abortion instead of the federal government?

I mean, there is an argument about proper constitutional procedure there, but that argument is not about the substance of abortion itself. I guess the NeverTrumpers just want pro-abortion laws but passed by the states.

But Cooke isn't having this lame femsplanation from the very effeminate Egger and very liberal California Democrat Patterico:

Charles C. W. Cooke
@charlescwcooke
But this position doesn't make any sense, either, given that, just a couple of years ago, Cheney co-sponsored a bill that banned abortion nationally from "the moment of fertilization," and did so on the grounds that the Constitution mandated such a rule.
And now she's complaining at Kamala Harris rallies about the less-strict-than-that rules that some states passed after the issue was returned to the states--which she said she wanted but also apparently didn't because she tried to pass a national ban? Come on.
I simply do not understand why she didn't just say "I'm pro-life in the most comprehensive way possible--I think the 14th Amendment mandates a from-conception ban--but I think we need to elect Kamala Harris because Trump is unfit for office." The temptation was too great.

Joe Gabriel Simonson
@SaysSimonson

Cheney saying she thinks Dobbs went too far is like the opposite side of the Trump coin. Trump never really cared about abortion but is pretty honest about it. Cheney, who once told voters fetuses have a constitutional right to life, never cared all along either.

Here’s the entire bill Cheney co-sponsored in 2021. To pretend that her objection is merely to overbroad or too-vague state-level legislation does not pass the laugh test. https://t.co/ngubY142km
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) October 22, 2024

Here's Patterico making the tendentious, ankle-biting point that she doesn't say she thinks Dobbs went too far -- just state laws limiting abortion.

As if there's a difference. Either way, she wants states to stop restricting abortion.

But Josh is not telling the truth. Instead of checking the transcript, you bought his distortion. Cheney did not say Dobbs went too far. She said that the actions of some state legislatures post-Dobbs are keeping women from getting the care they need. https://t.co/Tly6eqFy6w https://t.co/FJfTBiAfPe pic.twitter.com/ALBFmIe2Fi
— Patterico (@Patterico) October 21, 2024

What is "the care they need" she's talking about, Pat? "The care they need" she means is, of course, abortion.

But this very serious True Conservative is telling you she's just as pro-life as she used to pretend to be.

As Cooke points out, Cheney's past position was that all abortions, every single one, should be banned at the federal level from the moment of fertilization. That was the position she used to pretend to hold -- which we now find out was always a lie, because she's now claiming that if any abortion law ever stops women from getting "the care they need," it must be repealed.

FriendsofCharlieCoyle
@TerriersFan
Charles, we were not supposed to take seriously any such bills proposed pre-Dobby. Everyone know they were just meaningless attempts to keep pro-life voters donating money and going to the polls. They weren't serious.
Charles C. W. Cooke
@charlescwcooke

Yeah, well I don't think she can say that, either.
Jay Caruso
@JayCaruso
She cannot. Dobbs was already in the appeals court process when this bill was introduced. It was obviously done with the idea that SCOTUS would take the case, which they did three months later.

She proposed banning all abortions while Dobbs was in the appeals process?

Well then I understand the point of her move: As her good neocon friend Lindsey Graham also did, she was attempting to push a policy that she new the public would reject, in order to get Democrats elected and scare the Supreme Court into voting to uphold Roe. She was telling the Court, if you overturn Roe, this is the bill we'll be voting for, so you'd better defend Roe.

By the way: This was billed as a "town hall," but a town hall allows unscripted questions from the audience.

That was not allowed here -- the fake journalist attempting to give a veneer of journalistic credibility to this infomercial admitted that audience members could not ask questions, because the question had been "pre-determined."

So Liz Cheney knew this question was coming -- she was not caught flat-footed and forced to improvise. This is her new, considered take on abortion -- abortions must be allowed so that women can "get the care they need."

PS:

This is now Patterico's tenth straight year of supporting Democrats for president and pushing whatever spin is necessary to claim that the far-left position is the "true conservative" position.

Maybe it's time to stop pretending. After ten years of championing Democrats, you ca no longer claim you're "politically homeless" or whatever bullshit you peddle. You have a political home. It's right in the heart of the ultra-progressive, woke authoritarian Democrat Party.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 12:11 PM

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1 Dance, monkey, dance!

Posted by: The DNC! at October 22, 2024 12:11 PM (uxCna)

2 Being conservative and a True Republican begins and ends with slavish loyalty to the military-industrial complex's efforts at waging forever wars.

Anything else is negotiable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)

3 shut it miss piggy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:11 PM (CIS44)

4 No doubt about it. She's a true conservative.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 22, 2024 12:13 PM (L/fGl)

5 Cocksucker Kumala is the perfect person to help women...help them learn what, you ask?...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 22, 2024 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

6 Who's bitch this is?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 22, 2024 12:13 PM (Q4IgG)

7 Chris Cillizza has a sadz that people don't trust the MSM.

Chris Cillizza@ChrisCillizza
Devastating.
And a massive problem for a healthy democracy.

-
Two thoughts.

1) Sweet, sweet liberal tears.

2) If only they could figure out what was causing it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 22, 2024 12:13 PM (L/fGl)

8 Liz influences.....no one.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:13 PM (pohLc)

9 This is now Patterico's tenth straight year of supporting Democrats for president and pushing whatever spin is necessary to claim that the far-left position is the "true conservative" position.

Maybe it's time to stop pretending. After ten years of championing Democrats, you ca no longer claim you're "politically homeless" or whatever bullshit you peddle. You have a political home. It's right in the heart of the ultra-progressive, woke authoritarian Democrat Party.

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He said he'd never vote for Republicans again in...2017? It was when the Republican Congress passed the SALT reduction.

He said that Republicans raised his taxes, and for that he'll never vote Republican again.

So, he'll vote for an agitate for...Democrats.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)

10 “ Liz Cheney: Anti-Abortion Laws in the States Have Gone Too Far, We Have To Give Women the "Help They Need"

Here’s my advice for Liz Cheney. Have the salad, you bint.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 22, 2024 12:14 PM (oZhq1)

11 Liz, Romney and Flake will fade away into obscurity after this election (please God).

Posted by: IC - #FJB at October 22, 2024 12:14 PM (DJ7uY)

12 Maybe it's time to stop pretending. After ten years of championing Democrats, you ca no longer claim you're "politically homeless" or whatever bullshit you peddle. You have a political home. It's right in the heart of the ultra-progressive, woke authoritarian Democrat Party.

This applies to Liz Cheney as much as to Patterico. I fully expect her to run for some office as a Democrat, because what fun is a real job compared to being powerful and important? I have no idea what state, but I think we can cross Wyoming off the list.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 12:14 PM (xCA6C)

13 I will vote for Harris because Liz Cheney supports her, said nobody ever.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 22, 2024 12:15 PM (oZhq1)

14 We have states that have less restrictive abortion laws than most of the EU. 24 wks I believe is the limit in the most pro-abortion countries (UK/Netherlands), with, I believe 12wks or 16 wks the limit in most of the others.

Kalifornia seems not to have a limit...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 22, 2024 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

15 Chris Cillizza has a sadz that people don't trust the MSM.

Chris Cillizza@ChrisCillizza
Devastating.
And a massive problem for a healthy democracy.

Yes, yes you are. We agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)

16 Senior US staffer for Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Ops suspected in leaking docs on Israeli strike in Iran, Pentagon official tells Sky News Arabia. via @N12News

That would almost certainly be Ariane Tabatabai, who has kept her security clearance, despite being suspected of spying for Iran, and whose father is a senior official in the Iranian nuclear program.

One wonders if Tabatabai will jet off to some international conference, and then mysteriously show up in Teheran.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:15 PM (uxCna)

17 Who's bitch this is?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 22, 2024 12:13 PM (Q4IgG)

Bitch is a male Lindsey Graham.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 22, 2024 12:15 PM (i24o9)

18 12 Maybe it's time to stop pretending. After ten years of championing Democrats, you ca no longer claim you're "politically homeless" or whatever bullshit you peddle. You have a political home. It's right in the heart of the ultra-progressive, woke authoritarian Democrat Party.

Both he and Liz have extreme cases of Trump derangement syndrome...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (IyPmt)

19 Warmonger also a fan of child sacrifice?

I'm shocked 😲 😯 😮

Posted by: Just Lily at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (aDMGZ)

20 their master prefers that they lie, even to their own disadvantage

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - they have been lying to us for decades at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (J6S9v)

21 Seriously, why is Liz Cheney even a thing anymore?

She has no constituency, no relevancy and quite literally, no principles to speak of.

Just go away you war mongering tw*t waffle, leave us alone.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (XV/Pl)

22 Patterico, what a phoney he is.

Dude can't take any criticism. Trump lives in his head rent free.

The blogger Dana there is certifiably obsessed never Trumper

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (NtVYv)

23 Has David French yet written the conservative Christian case of post-birth abortion? I don't follow him.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (1bNHn)

24 Hi Ace
I am loving watching the Harris campaign crash and burn. The recriminations after the election will be lit.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (t/2Uw)

25 It is odd and ironic that so many rabid proponents of abortion have no personal dogs in the hunt.

Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (PCK5/)

26 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Kill the baby, kill the baby, kill the baby now
At least we know where Liz went wacky

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (K63Rm)

27 as it goes, I have looked at Congress as a form of professional wrestling.

Each big player has a "look" a "position" based on whether they are a heel or not.
They switch back and forth as needed, and they go drinking afterwards unless they really hate each other.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (D7oie)

28

The Democrat base and black men LOVE neocons.

What a wonderful idea it was for the harris campaign to tow liz cheney around.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (z9V3o)

29 MUHBORTION!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (FnneF)

30 Posted by: Paul at October 22, 2024 12:15 PM (OIPyp)

In arab countries, they just stone women to death claiming it was their fault.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

31 What a poor excuse of a human being Liz Cheney has turned out to be.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (1++Yc)

32 He said that Republicans raised his taxes, and for that he'll never vote Republican again.

So, he'll vote for an agitate for...Democrats.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:14 PM (GBKbO)
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I cannot tell you how many people didn't learn the lesson of the SALT deduction, which was: A lot of states were hiding how much they actually tax people through the SALT deduction. Notice how NY and CA screamed bloody murder and harrumphed about suing to stop the change in the SALT deduction.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (tT6L1)

33 I have too much pork

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (/7KEl)

34 This applies to Liz Cheney as much as to Patterico. I fully expect her to run for some office as a Democrat, because what fun is a real job compared to being powerful and important? I have no idea what state, but I think we can cross Wyoming off the list.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 12:14 PM (xCA6C)

I think she's going to run for VA senate as an (R) and that will be her last gasp of relevancy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (CIS44)

35 It is odd and ironic that so many rabid proponents of abortion have no personal dogs in the hunt.

Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (PCK5/)

That is an exceedingly polite way of putting it.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (i24o9)

36 Being conservative and a True Republican begins and ends with slavish loyalty to the military-industrial complex's efforts at waging forever wars.

The Three Core Principles of True Conservatism:

1) Endless wars.

2) Unlimited immigration.

3) Lower corporate income tax rates.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (uxCna)

37 Josh Kraushaar
@JoshKraushaar
Another example of this: Cheney, who has always been a pro-lifer throughout her political career, said the Dobbs decision went too far during the PA event.
______
Too far in leaving it up to the states, with no limits on what they can allow (or ban)?

Trump really broke these people.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (1bNHn)

38 26 Good afternoon Ace and everyone

Kill the baby, kill the baby, kill the baby now
At least we know where Liz went wacky

Posted by: Skip at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (K63Rm)

I wonder...does Liz wish she was aborted?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

39 Two weeks.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (uxCna)

40 38 I can’t confirm this. However I have a sneaking suspicion Liz Cheney is a lifelong lying sack of shit who said what she thought her voters wanted to hear but didn’t believe any of it.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (ekupY)

So a typical politician then.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

41 >>> 12 Maybe it's time to stop pretending. After ten years of championing Democrats, you ca no longer claim you're "politically homeless" or whatever bullshit you peddle. You have a political home. It's right in the heart of the ultra-progressive, woke authoritarian Democrat Party.
==
This applies to Liz Cheney as much as to Patterico. I fully expect her to run for some office as a Democrat, because what fun is a real job compared to being powerful and important? I have no idea what state, but I think we can cross Wyoming off the list.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 12:14 PM (xCA6C)

Sadly, it will probably be Colorado.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (FnneF)

42 32 I cannot tell you how many people didn't learn the lesson of the SALT deduction, which was: A lot of states were hiding how much they actually tax people through the SALT deduction. Notice how NY and CA screamed bloody murder and harrumphed about suing to stop the change in the SALT deduction.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (tT6L1)

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My only surprise is that in the last 4 years, they haven't reversed it.

They money must be too good.

And I remember it being listed as a reason for the 2018 GOP underperformance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (GBKbO)

43 Liz is consumed with hate for Trump.. Screw the Country

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (IyPmt)

44 I have too much pork
Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:17 PM (/7KEl)

Said no one ever

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (NtVYv)

45 Komrade Kamala continuing to choke the Liz Cheney chicken is hilarious and retarded…. The dem base hates the name Cheney… republicans hate Cheney…. She got drummed out of her house seat, she’s an unattractive scold and sourpuss…. The opposite of what someone might want to attract voters. So keep choking that chicken Kamala! I’m hope Liz goes everywhere with her these last two weeks

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (ZtAny)

46 24 Hi Ace
I am loving watching the Harris campaign crash and burn. The recriminations after the election will be lit.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:16 PM (t/2Uw)

I hope she ordered lots of fireworks that Trump can buy back from them at a discount to use for our 250 year celebration.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (aDMGZ)

47 It's morbidly fascinating watching the mask drop from the deep state players and their true selves emerge. The Cheney's are as tied to the deep state/intel community as any people in DC. That's why he was acceptable to W just like Biden was to Obama.

Liz dutifully played the part of a True Conservative until it no longer was useful or mattered. What matters is supporting the deep state that has really been running this country and whichever puppet they run for office.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (LkLld)

48 @32

>>A lot of states were hiding how much they actually tax people through the SALT deduction. Notice how NY and CA screamed bloody murder and harrumphed about suing to stop the change in the SALT deduction.

SALT was simply another thing the Donks rammed through to get low tax states to subsidize high tax states.

The Donks are very good at getting the tax payer to foot the bill for their sh*t.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (XV/Pl)

49 I can’t confirm this. However I have a sneaking suspicion Liz Cheney is a lifelong lying sack of shit who said what she thought her voters wanted to hear but didn’t believe any of it.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 22, 2024 12:18 PM (ekupY)

apple doesn't far from, oh you know the thing.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (CIS44)

50 I don't understand why so many women won't accept their biological role

buy role I don't mean 'duty'
I'm not sure where this is going

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:19 PM (/7KEl)

51 @40

>>Two weeks.

Literally.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:20 PM (XV/Pl)

52 >>> 16 Senior US staffer for Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Ops suspected in leaking docs on Israeli strike in Iran, Pentagon official tells Sky News Arabia. via @N12News

That would almost certainly be Ariane Tabatabai, who has kept her security clearance, despite being suspected of spying for Iran, and whose father is a senior official in the Iranian nuclear program.

One wonders if Tabatabai will jet off to some international conference, and then mysteriously show up in Teheran.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:15 PM (uxCna)

The Israelis have already demonstrated that Tehran isn't necessarily a safe place for jihadis to be.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 22, 2024 12:20 PM (FnneF)

53
Try pinning a Democrat down on what an acceptable limit is. All you'll get is a word cloud.

Try asking a Democrat if a live birth in the course of an abortion has a right to life. You won't get an answer.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:20 PM (EsZUh)

54 BREAKING! Kamala gets down, gets funky!

https://is.gd/XnsnIo

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 22, 2024 12:21 PM (L/fGl)

55 Who's bitch this is?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 22, 2024

***
Isn't that Kennedy-by-her-father's-marriage Maria Shriver as the "moderator"?

(I remember Bob Hope, in the days when Dems were comic targets as well as Repubs, saying, "I knew Sargent Shriver when he was just a private.")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 22, 2024 12:21 PM (J2vNu)

56 52 @40

>>Two weeks.

Literally.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:20 PM (XV/Pl)

Hopefully the Horde does not have breakdown before then.

Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2024 12:21 PM (PCK5/)

57 Try asking a Democrat if a live birth in the course of an abortion has a right to life. You won't get an answer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:20 PM (EsZUh)

Walz says no.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:21 PM (CIS44)

58 Well, I guess if Melania Trump can come out in favor of baby killing, why not Liz Cheney.

From Cheney it doesn't surprise me. From Melania it did. Not so much that she endorsed abortion, but the timing, particularly since nobody that is really pro-abortion is going to flip to Trump.

Posted by: Bigsmith at October 22, 2024 12:21 PM (1Au9i)

59 seriously- pork shoulders were buy one get one, but each weighs about 9 lbs
I'm just one guy
I just wanted a pulled pork sandwich

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (/7KEl)

60 When Big Liz was in Congress and betraying PDJT, did the R leadership seek to sanction her or expel her from the Party. How about booting her off her committee assignment? She’s still a GOPe in good standing, right?

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (9tq9V)

61
Abortion rights: White women fighting for black women to kill their kids.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (EsZUh)

62 Abortion is a sacrament
- pelousy

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (dE3DB)

63 If you don’t like the laws of the State you live in then you can move.

What’s ironic is many of these abortion supporters are moving to different states. Moving to those abortion restriction states because their abortion on demand blue states are shitholes.

Of course they then want their new home state to change.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (D6PGr)

64 The Israelis have already demonstrated that Tehran isn't necessarily a safe place for jihadis to be.

True.

Also, Tabatabai may like her chances with DC juries and the DC Court system.

"Sure, it was spying, but it wasn't bad spying."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (uxCna)

65 >BREAKING! Kamala gets down, gets funky!
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NO NO NO NO

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (/7KEl)

66 Try asking a Democrat if a live birth in the course of an abortion has a right to life. You won't get an answer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:20 PM (EsZUh)
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Yep.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (tT6L1)

67 61 When Big Liz was in Congress and betraying PDJT, did the R leadership seek to sanction her or expel her from the Party. How about booting her off her committee assignment? She’s still a GOPe in good standing, right?
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (9tq9V)

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Yup. All this.

McCarthy never once punished her materially. The most was when he wouldn't give her money for her re-election primary...long after it was obvious she was going to lose no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (GBKbO)

68 CBS has today described Liz as a "powerful Republican".
I guess they didn't get to the bit where she lost her election by 40 points...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (MeG8a)

69 seriously- pork shoulders were buy one get one, but each weighs about 9 lbs
I'm just one guy
I just wanted a pulled pork sandwich
Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (/7KEl)

Freeze one ! Don't let your meat loaf

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (NtVYv)

70 >>> 60 seriously- pork shoulders were buy one get one, but each weighs about 9 lbs
I'm just one guy
I just wanted a pulled pork sandwich
Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (/7KEl)

Cut them into smaller portions and freeze all but the one you cook for your sammich today

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (FnneF)

71 When Big Liz was in Congress and betraying PDJT, did the R leadership seek to sanction her or expel her from the Party. How about booting her off her committee assignment? She’s still a GOPe in good standing, right?
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (9tq9V)

Yes they did.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (D6PGr)

72 CBS has today described Liz as a "powerful Republican".
I guess they didn't get to the bit where she lost her election by 40 points...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (MeG8a)

I mean look at the size of those legs, I bet she could pull a plow. That's pretty powerful.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (CIS44)

73 69 CBS has today described Liz as a "powerful Republican".
I guess they didn't get to the bit where she lost her election by 40 points...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (MeG8a)

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Or that she holds no elected position. Or that she's not employed by any Republican organization.

In what form does this power take?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

74 I really think they have given up. At this point, a Harris presidency would be disastrous for them. Everything they have tried to do has crashed and burned. Better to let Trump clean things up so they can have another go of it next time. It is just too obvious that she can't even be a good front for them. She is too dumb to speak without a script. Obama was smart enough to internalize who he needed to be to fool,the public. She just can't do it no matter how many softball settings they give her.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (t/2Uw)

75 Hopefully the Horde does not have breakdown before then.

It's Kamala breaking down, not the Horde.

There's a reason why Kammie is taking two days off this week.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (uxCna)

76 sorry for threadjack

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (/7KEl)

77 Abortion laws are a concern of the state. So shut the fuck up about it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (pohLc)

78 >>> 62
Abortion rights: White women fighting for black women to kill their kids.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:22 PM (EsZUh)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Margaret Sanger at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (FnneF)

79 7 Chris Cillizza has a sadz that people don't trust the MSM.

Chris Cillizza@ChrisCillizza
Devastating.
And a massive problem for a healthy democracy.

-
Two thoughts.

1) Sweet, sweet liberal tears.

2) If only they could figure out what was causing it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 22, 2024 12:13 PM (L/fGl)
_______
It's well over a century since Arthur Balfour said the only thing worth reading in the papers was the golf scores.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (1bNHn)

80 Profitable forever wars > abortion or anything else.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (TQyB0)

81
Has it occurred to anyone else that in this election malaka harris is very much the "hold your nose and vote" candidate, not President Trump?

The Democrats hate harris. They do. They're hiding it, but they secretly hate her and wish she was never selected.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (z9V3o)

82 Fat Lizzy, it's called Keto Diet. Try it sometime.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (6PUpl)

83 ‘Let’s just kill that baby and get it right out of there. That will make you healthy again, missy!’
-lizzie borden grabbed a vacuum

Posted by: Eromero at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (OAly5)

84 I personally oppose abortion in principle, but I know that there will be abortions, for various reasons. Who I find morally repugnant are those who embrace the practice as an article of faith in their secular religions, and use the practice as a sign or their orthodoxy.

Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (PCK5/)

85 Everyone please click on the link of Kamala singing

she has her groove thing on

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (/7KEl)

86 >>There's a reason why Kammie is taking two days off this week.

I remember during the 2016 when Hillary thought it was a great idea to take a few days off the campaign trail near the election. That worked out well.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (LkLld)

87 CBS has today described Liz as a "powerful Republican".
I guess they didn't get to the bit where she lost her election by 40 points...

Worst defeat of a House incumbent ever, I believe.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:25 PM (uxCna)

88 we were not supposed to take seriously any such bills proposed pre-Dobby. Everyone know they were just meaningless attempts to keep pro-life voters donating money and going to the polls. They weren't serious.
==
There is only one party. The policy disagreements are a puppet show. To raise money, divide the middle class and preserve the status quo for the elite. Like him or not, Trump isn't in the party either. They have exhausted themselves trying to destroy him.

Posted by: Simplemind at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (B23BQ)

89 This is why Harris is going to Texas to try and prop up the Senate candidate. At this point, trying to either save the House or Senate is their only option. But again, I think it's too late and I am really really happy abput this.💃

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (t/2Uw)

90 sorry for threadjack
Posted by: Don Black
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On the contrary, the original comment about pork was very relevant to the subject of Liz Cheney.

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (JIkaw)

91 Many of these ballot initiatives on anottion and transgender mutilation are being illegally funded by Swiss Billionaire Handjorg Wyss through The Berger Action Fund and Sixteen Thirty Fund.

It’s clear foreign interference in our elections

But you watch out for those Russians posting ads on Facebook, you guys.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (oZhq1)

92 seriously- pork shoulders were buy one get one, but each weighs about 9 lbs
I'm just one guy
I just wanted a pulled pork sandwich
Posted by: Don Black

Chop and trim them into 3rds, and then freeze them. (after double wrapping them of course. )

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (IG4Id)

93 @57

>>Hopefully the Horde does not have breakdown before then.

I'm voting in New Jersey, and before that I lived in NYC.

I'm habituated to my vote not meaning very much.

So, I've broken down mentally many decades ago at this point.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (XV/Pl)

94 >>> 74 69 CBS has today described Liz as a "powerful Republican".
I guess they didn't get to the bit where she lost her election by 40 points...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (MeG8a)

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Or that she holds no elected position. Or that she's not employed by any Republican organization.

In what form does this power take?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (GBKbO)

I think it's the same as Madison Cornbread's testimony that was 'pulsing with the power of history' according to some retard journalist.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (FnneF)

95 This is why Harris is going to Texas to try and prop up the Senate candidate. At this point, trying to either save the House or Senate is their only option. But again, I think it's too late and I am really really happy abput this.💃
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (t/2Uw)

That aint gonna help Allred.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:27 PM (CIS44)

96 So, I've broken down mentally many decades ago at this point.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (XV/Pl)

Ditto... I'm in CA.

Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2024 12:27 PM (IyPmt)

97 Try asking a Democrat if a live birth in the course of an abortion has a right to life. You won't get an answer.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:20 PM (EsZUh)
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I saw the Allred ads in TX and all I could think was, "The smiling face of evil."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (tT6L1)

98 Cheney, who has always been a pro-lifer throughout her political career
---------------
Liz is pro whatever gets her elected or grants her power. Except her observational powers, those powers seem not to work properly for her.

Posted by: scampydog at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (2bFN5)

99 Hey, one nice thing I just realized:
All the prognostications that swore Biden was going to resign and make Harris President weeks before the Election didn't materialize.

I mean, it was plausible, within their "keep the buzz; big splash going" media/campaign strategy.

But, I think the distaste of their base at her undemocratic installation polled high enough that doing this would have tipped to bile and outright rejection.

Recall: She was installed in the panic to stem down-ticket bleeding.
And now all the down-ticket races are now shifting to the R ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (6miZe)

100 I remember during the 2016 when Hillary thought it was a great idea to take a few days off the campaign trail near the election. That worked out well.

Hillary basically took the month of August off, because she wasn't physically capable of campaigning for a sustained period.

I wonder if one of the reasons why Kammie is spending two days this week "preparing for interviews" is to dry her out - it would not surprise me to find out that she has been hitting the sauce pretty hard.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (uxCna)

101 CBS was always bad, always biased, but lately they have succumbed to the basest impulses of propaganda.
Which, BTW, used to be illegal but isn't anymore, thanks to Obama.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (MeG8a)

102 It's clear Trump doesn't really care about abortion and the TruCons like Cheney never cared either. I don't really see why this needs to continue to be a political issue.

Even the new conservative position on abortion, something around 4 months, would be considered radically pro-choice a few years ago.

Roe vs Wade was overturned, voters have overwhelmingly voted for abortion when it's on the state ballot, and Republicans are now advocating an abortion position to the Left of most other countries.

Posted by: Lacra at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (4pwAx)

103 75
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:24 PM (t/2Uw)

========

A Trump presidency with the GOP actually behind him carries significant dangers for the left and the uniparty.

Firstly, advances in election integrity could make it pretty much impossible for Democrats to win nationally or even Senate races in key states. That's probably something that will continue to advance, accelerated by a Trump DOJ, with or without a Trump win.

The second is Trump's very public promises to take revenge. It's not against voters he's promising that. It's against people in power who make these decisions.

The GOP's ability to hamstring a second Trump term at this point will be significantly reduced. The Vance pick indicates that he's not listening to GOPe consultants anymore, and that will extend to his cabinet, including the AG.

Heavy, heavy risk just letting him win.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (GBKbO)

104 Cheney didn't say she opposed Dobbs being overturned because she's sitting next to Harris on the stage.
She said this because she thinks there's something in it for her.
Same as always.
Grifters. spit

Posted by: TecumsehTea at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (1TzeS)

105 >>In what form does this power take?

Cheney made millions during her short time in Congress. Over $10 million. That didn't come from her Congressional paycheck.

There is formal power and informal power.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (LkLld)

106 Like many states, MO has abortion among its ballot initiatives ("Amendment 3"). Voting FOR Amendment 3 would enshrine abortion into the state constitution and also allow for lots of tranny shenanigans as well (i.e., children could transition without parental consent or even knowledge.)

Lots of "NO on 3" signs here in my little corner of MO. Only seen two YES signs--both in front of houses with Harris/Walz signs, of course.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (7fElN)

107 That aint gonna help Allred.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:27 PM (CIS44)
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Crud, copy paste fail.

I saw the Allred ads in TX and all I could think was, "The smiling face of evil."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (tT6L1)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (tT6L1)

108
Lotsa blubbering commercials in Texas about how Ted Cruz is murdering women with his extreme abortion ban. How many abortions are purely elective, no medical issues at all? I think the figure is 95%.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (EsZUh)

109 >Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (IG4Id)
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that is the plan- divide and freeze

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (/7KEl)

110 Wondering exactly what power Liz Cheney has at her disposal? Spewing bile and bullshit isn't exactly power.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (pohLc)

111
Let's put this in context for "women's health issues", shall we?

Whoopi Goldberg has admitted to having had "six or seven" abortions. Well, which number was it - six, or seven - Ms. Women's Health Issues?

It speaks of living a slattern's life that you do not know a fixed number for these "women's vital health procedures" that you underwent for your very own case. Might living a "pump and dump" lifestyle argue against any assertion that your health care was paramount, given that you had to resort to what could have turned out to be a life threatening procedure for your very own bad self.

You are a living exemplar for bad life choices. A little humility and a little contrition might serve you better in what time remains for you.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (xG4kz)

112
Warpig retains the support of any number of important defense contractors and...

Aw, who are you kidding, Ace? She couldn't win an election anywhere under any party banner. She has no credibility, and even the people using her now probably despise her.

Posted by: Auspex at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (j4U/Z)

113 seriously- pork shoulders were buy one get one, but each weighs about 9 lbs
I'm just one guy
I just wanted a pulled pork sandwich
Posted by: Don Black

Pulled pork freezes well. If you make it just smokey and don't sauce it all up, you can also make tacos and mission style burritos with it.

What also freezes well? Chili Verde (also cans well).

Do it up, and eat like a king for the year.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (i24o9)

114 Afternoon Ace. The absolute incompetence of the Harris campaign is laid bare for all to see. Liz Cheney draws exactly no one who is not already a never Trumper. It will arguably cause her to lose votes from the anti war left. Great going campaign staff!

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (a7PbZ)

115 Posted earlier, but on topicc:

Colorado Ballot proposition 79

"Shall there be a change to the Colorado constitution recognizing the right to abortion, and, in connection therewith, prohibiting the state and local governments from denying, impeding, or discriminating against the exercise of that right, allowing abortion to be a covered service under health insurance plans for Colorado state and local government employees and for enrollees in state and local governmental insurance programs?"

Not only do they want to enshrine it in the constitution as a sacred right (or should I say rite?), they want to make it mandatory for state and local entities to pay for it.

It needs 55% YES votes to pass. It will probably get 60%. I hope I am wrong.

Posted by: muldoon at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (uCfKO)

116 97 So, I've broken down mentally many decades ago at this point.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (XV/Pl)

Ditto... I'm in CA.
Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2024 12:27 PM (IyPmt)

I live in a very red, getting redder state. My sympathies to all of the Horde who live in enemy territory.

Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2024 12:29 PM (PCK5/)

117 shut it miss piggy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:11 PM (CIS44)

Miss Warpiggy.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (i24o9)

118
A story I read one time was that Russia was the first country to legalize abortion over a hundred years ago. But Stalin came along and saw the birth rate and outlawed the practice. But the birth rate remained unchanged. So they legalized it again, but decided that 12 weeks was the number.

Interestingly enough, I've read recently that all of the eggs a female will carry are already somewhat developed at 11 weeks.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (MwtZ5)

119 So, I've broken down mentally many decades ago at this point.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 22, 2024 12:26 PM (XV/Pl)

Ditto... I'm in CA.
Posted by: It's me donna at October 22, 2024 12:27 PM (IyPmt)

I lived in CA for more than 30 years. I moved here to Texas a few years ago… I gotta admit it feels pretty good being in a politically healthy state. I’m in a solid red county…. Used to be in LA County. Night and day….. but I do miss running on the beach strand….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (WnEm5)

120
They're trying to pretend liz cheney is equal to Tulsi Gabbard.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (z9V3o)

121 Has anyone ever seen Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol in the same space?

Posted by: Ordinary American at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (ZlOcj)

122 Miss Warpiggy.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (i24o9)

*updates file*

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (CIS44)

123
and Mork Cuban is their equivalent to Elon Musk

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (z9V3o)

124
As for Liz C., it is time for that picnic table-legged ball of suet with raisin eyes to be put out to pasture in the back forty of Daddy's Wyoming spread.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (xG4kz)

125 What is "the care they need"

A slap in the face soundly. Followed by another.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (i0bTX)

126 I was driving home yesterday, CBS radio news must have announced "Harris and Republican Liz Cheney" at every hourly news segment. Ahem. EX-republican. Oh the stupid RNC probably didn't kick Liz out, but she's an R like I'm an athlete.

Posted by: PaleRider at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (zYCTH)

127 It is utterly bizarre that this clown campaign believes Liz Cheney is popular in Pennsylvania

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (i7Q7S)

128
Counterparts, rather.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (z9V3o)

129 Women angry at the overturn of Roe are either stupid or disingenuous

stupid for not understanding federalism (it's a state issue now), or (the long word) for knowing but pretending not to

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (/7KEl)

130 I think it's the same as Madison Cornbread's testimony that was 'pulsing with the power of history' according to some retard journalist.

She just got caught lying about filling out some legal document. She said it was her handwriting, when it was Trump's lawyer. Anyway, she's still nice looking.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 12:31 PM (xCA6C)

131 althouse yesterday posted a piece from bret stephens in the ny times which was basically lots of reasons to vote against kamala and then said he was voting for her anyway.

some people really do live in opposite world

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (CWTWj)

132 I remember during the 2016 when Hillary thought it was a great idea to take a few days off the campaign trail near the election. That worked out well.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2024

***
Well, you know, she was old.

And a drunk. But mostly the old part.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (J2vNu)

133 seriously- pork shoulders were buy one get one, but each weighs about 9 lbs
I'm just one guy
I just wanted a pulled pork sandwich
Posted by: Don Black

Chop and trim them into 3rds, and then freeze them. (after double wrapping them of course. )
===
Get one of those vacuum dealers and a deep freezer. Keep meat for a year plus.

Posted by: Simplemind at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (B23BQ)

134 121
They're trying to pretend liz cheney is equal to Tulsi Gabbard.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (z9V3o)

=======

I bet they're about equal in terms of influence.

It's equating her to RFK Jr. that's nonsense. I mean, RFK isn't a powerhouse, but there was a solid chance he was going to pull best in a generation third party numbers if he had stayed in the race. Not huge, but, like 3-5%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (GBKbO)

135 107 Like many states, MO has abortion among its ballot initiatives ("Amendment 3"). Voting FOR Amendment 3 would enshrine abortion into the state constitution and also allow for lots of tranny shenanigans as well (i.e., children could transition without parental consent or even knowledge.)

Lots of "NO on 3" signs here in my little corner of MO. Only seen two YES signs--both in front of houses with Harris/Walz signs, of course.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 22, 2024 12:28 PM (7fElN)

I believe it will be defeated because of the huge turnout that is anticipated. They erred by offering it up this year.. a better tactic would have been sneaking it into an off year ballot.

Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (PCK5/)

136 Dealers = sealers

Die autocorrect

Posted by: Simplemind at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (B23BQ)

137 69 CBS has today described Liz as a "powerful Republican".
I guess they didn't get to the bit where she lost her election by 40 points...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024 12:23 PM (MeG8a)
________
Maybe they were just comparing her weight-lifting ability to Obama's.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (1bNHn)

138 I'm having steak and eggs because today I pay off my car loan, which was for 7 years at 8.5% but I got it paid off in 8 months, thereby saving myself tens of thousands of dollars in interest.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024 12:33 PM (MeG8a)

139 ‘They said East Texas is the place you want to be, so I loaded up the truck and went where they ordered me.’

Posted by: Eromero at October 22, 2024 12:33 PM (OAly5)

140 A Trump presidency with the GOP actually behind him carries significant dangers for the left and the uniparty.

Firstly, advances in election integrity could make it pretty much impossible for Democrats to win nationally or even Senate races in key states. That's probably something that will continue to advance, accelerated by a Trump DOJ, with or without a Trump win.

I am convinced this is the reason for their hysterical behavior this year. They're completely unhinged.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (xCA6C)

141 picnic table-legged ball of suet with raisin eyes

The poetry of the Horde is teh awesome.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (i0bTX)

142 122 Has anyone ever seen Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol in the same space?
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (ZlOcj)
_______
They won't even fit in the same auditorium.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (1bNHn)

143 Heavy, heavy risk just letting him win.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness
I really think it is out of their hands at this point. They have not invested in any grass roots GOTV. They raised a lot of money but except for text messages didn't invest in field offices. Last time they had foot soldiers who thought they were going to benefit from a D admin, instead those Ds imported millions of illegals which stole the benefits they expected to receive. This time, Trump seems like he will actually benefit them. Why queer the election? (Literally)(lol)

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (t/2Uw)

144 I believe it will be defeated because of the huge turnout that is anticipated. They erred by offering it up this year.. a better tactic would have been sneaking it into an off year ballot.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (PCK5/)

*Kansas waves*

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (CIS44)

145 A fake Town Hall.
This idiot is totally incapable of stand up for herself.
How the FU*K will she stand up for America?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (W/lyH)

146 I'm going to posit a contrary thesis -

Cheney is a bloodthirsty careerist maniac who holds no position dear save "Cheneys should rule and wage war (safely, from afar) at all times."

Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (ssz2a)

147 just remember, when the dems control the gov't again like they did in 2009 and completely destroy the constitution, that's when the real conservatives & republicans will win back the country

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 22, 2024 12:35 PM (CWTWj)

148 RFK isn't a powerhouse, but there was a solid chance he was going to pull best in a generation third party numbers if he had stayed in the race. Not huge, but, like 3-5%.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (GBKbO)

That’s scary to me about the electorate. I am glad though that he endorsed Trump because the goal is to win,

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:35 PM (D6PGr)

149 Liz would come in 2nd in a popularity contest with just her and clap on the ballot.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:35 PM (pohLc)

150 They're trying to pretend liz cheney is equal to Tulsi Gabbard.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 22, 2024 12:30 PM (z9V3o)

=======

I bet they're about equal in terms of influence.

My sphygmomanometer says otherwise.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 12:35 PM (xCA6C)

151 This is now Patterico's tenth straight year of supporting Democrats for president and pushing whatever spin is necessary to claim that the far-left position is the "true conservative" position.
Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

Thank you Ace, some time ago (years now) I found his schtick to be annoying and complete BS.
I stopped giving him my clicks and feel very good about doing so now.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 22, 2024 12:35 PM (46V5Z)

152
It is utterly bizarre that this clown campaign believes Liz Cheney is popular in Pennsylvania
Posted by: Jay in PA

Bu-bu-but, there's a burg named Cheyney, PA!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 12:35 PM (xG4kz)

153 It is utterly bizarre that this clown campaign believes Liz Cheney is popular in Pennsylvania

Did they do polling or anything?

How many people in Pennsylvania think either:

"I was going to vote for Trump, but now that Liz Cheney is campaigning with Kammie, I'm voting for Kammie."

or

"I was going to vote for Trump, but now that Liz Cheney is campaigning with Kammie, I'm not going to vote for anybody."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:36 PM (uxCna)

154 150 That’s scary to me about the electorate. I am glad though that he endorsed Trump because the goal is to win,

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:35 PM (D6PGr)

========

I've always seen RFK's supporters as old-school Democrats who hate what the Democrat party has become but don't like Trump's style or whatever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

155 147 A fake Town Hall.
This idiot is totally incapable of stand up for herself.
How the FU*K will she stand up for America?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2024 12:34 PM (W/lyH)

If she wanted to stand up FOR America she wouldn't be a Dem.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 22, 2024 12:36 PM (aDMGZ)

156 > only 15 years ago Cheney was the most hated man in America on the left. And now his daughter is a national hero,

----

that's the power of pandering
it works great on the stupid

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:36 PM (/7KEl)

157 BREAKING! Kamala gets down, gets funky!

I recommend vinegar and water...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2024 12:36 PM (y9nCu)

158 As I was given to understand, the end result in removing Dobbs was returning the responsibility with abortion matters back to the states, where they rightfully belong.

Nothing else changed-was this incorrect?

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at October 22, 2024 12:37 PM (hKoQL)

159 141 It still boggles the mind that only 15 years ago Cheney was the most hated man in America on the left. And now his daughter is a national hero,
Posted by: Settled Science at October 22, 2024 12:33 PM (ekupY)

Prior to becoming VP, Dick Cheney was the Dem’s most liked Republican congressman.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:37 PM (D6PGr)

160 Lots of Republicans like Cheney getting elected in far flung states then going to the swamp and representing the swamp.

Posted by: Drew in MO at October 22, 2024 12:37 PM (EfGoi)

161 161 As I was given to understand, the end result in removing Dobbs was returning the responsibility with abortion matters back to the states, where they rightfully belong.

Nothing else changed-was this incorrect?
Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at October 22, 2024 12:37 PM (hKoQL)

========

Well, that, and the requirement that all women wear the same outfit and become breeders for powerful men.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:37 PM (GBKbO)

162 We should take a moron field trip to DC and look at all of the massive buildings occupied by defense contractors, think tanks, consultants and various other "influencers" of government policy that are also coincidentally indirectly on the government payroll.

Here's what Russia truther and Hunter laptop letter signer, former Director of both the CIA and NSA is currently up to:

>>Hayden worked for a number of years as a principal at the Chertoff Group, a security consultancy, but left at the end of 2022. He serves on the board of directors of the Atlantic Council,[31] and co-founded the Michael V. Hayden Center for Intelligence, Policy, and International Security. Hayden is currently on the advisory board of NewsGuard

NewsGuard is one of the preeminent government censorship partners in case you didn't know.

This is where the power lies.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2024 12:37 PM (LkLld)

163 Weirdest take on commercials in Ohio for me is the women saying voting for Trump or Moreno 'could' mean that their daughter has less rights than they do. In other words, they want their daughter to have the right to pull the limbs off and crush the skull of their grandaughter up to the point of birth. Ok then.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 22, 2024 12:37 PM (i9RgK)

164 Speaking for Pennsylvania, it is clear that Cheney and Harris forget that there are two other pathways for women.
1) the current abortion laws in Pennsylvania were written by the Pennsylvania legislature, and they can change them
2) slavery was not ended by the SCOTUS, it was ended by three amendments to the US Constitution. The same could be done for abortion. It also has a much better staying power.

It seems that the Democrats have mapped out a pathway that involves endless yelling, screaming and gnashing of teeth rather than an actual solution.

Posted by: SMOD at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (RHGPo)

165 re: Colorado Ballot proposition 79

This is a citizen initiated constitutional amendment proposal. Any random activist with a word processor and an ax to grind can circulate a petition. No deliberative process. No need for a 2/3 or 3/4 majority to enshrine badly worded amendments not as law but as foundational bedrock assertions.

n Colorado, the number of signatures required for a successful petition is equal to 5 percent of the total number of votes cast for the office of Colorado secretary of state in the preceding general election

This year that is just under 125,000 signatures.

Posted by: muldoon at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (uCfKO)

166 It's equating her to RFK Jr. that's nonsense. I mean, RFK isn't a powerhouse, but

He's big, he's got a very important issue. Trump will make him even bigger.

Liz Cheney's best hope is becoming the next Victoria Nuland.

Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (hnMW+)

167 I've always seen RFK's supporters as old-school Democrats who hate what the Democrat party has become but don't like Trump's style or whatever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

Don’t disagree. I just think RFK Jr is literally a nut.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (D6PGr)

168 “Did they do polling or anything?”

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Based on the audience, it appears that Liz’s job is to try and convince older white people that the fake black woman isn't scary.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 22, 2024 12:39 PM (i7Q7S)

169 I’m beginning to believe ALL the bad things lefties said about Dick Cheney 2000-09

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 22, 2024 12:39 PM (OW907)

170 170 Don’t disagree. I just think RFK Jr is literally a nut.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (D6PGr)

=======

Probably.

But a prominent guy saying, "take fewer drugs and eat fewer processed foods" is probably a good thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:39 PM (GBKbO)

171 >>> 170 I've always seen RFK's supporters as old-school Democrats who hate what the Democrat party has become but don't like Trump's style or whatever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:36 PM (GBKbO)

Don’t disagree. I just think RFK Jr is literally a nut.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (D6PGr)

Are you not entertained?

Posted by: dead bear in Central Park at October 22, 2024 12:40 PM (FnneF)

172 Don’t disagree. I just think RFK Jr is literally a nut.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Cashew? Almond? Pistachio?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:40 PM (v6JzV)

173 Like Gutfield said, when liberals have to use euphemisms like women's health care you know it's awful.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:40 PM (pohLc)

174 It seems that the Democrats have mapped out a pathway that involves endless yelling, screaming and gnashing of teeth rather than an actual solution.
Posted by: SMOD at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (RHGPo)
--------------

Democrats have realized the courts saying, "Not our job to legislate" has put them in a bind.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:40 PM (tT6L1)

175 Cashew? Almond? Pistachio?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:40 PM (v6JzV)

Brazil nut.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (CIS44)

176 letting states decide what to do about aboriton = going too far

forcing all states to have abortion by federal decree = not going too far

gotcha, Lizbian

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (pZ0Mr)

177 Abercrombie and Fitch executives arrested for sex trafficking young male models. Shocked, shocked I say

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (a7PbZ)

178 Can’t search for it now, but there’s a great clip from Tim Pool interview where he first asks the guest if he supports the Colorado law allowing abortion up to delivery - “Oh, absolutely! Her body” blah blah.
Pool then asks him what he then asks how he feels about the mom doing meth through the ninth month of pregnancy. “No!” Why? “Because she’s intentionally killing the baby —“ And then the guy freezes, total cognitive dissonance.

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (Hkcdp)

179 Women angry at the overturn of Roe are either stupid or disingenuous

stupid for not understanding federalism (it's a state issue now), or (the long word) for knowing but pretending not to
====
In general, herd creatures. Social conformity to a peer group identity is sort of a hard coded survival instinct as a gender. They aren't going to outrun or outfight a predator. Go the bathroom in groups. Fashion trends= looking alike. Cliques. It's about being inside the herd. Those on the periphery get picked off and the predators are satisfied and leave the rest of the herd alone. Being separated or alone makes a female far more unsettled than a male. It's also why married women tend to be more conservative. They aren't trying to blend into a herd to survive. Liberal married women don't trust their husbands.

Posted by: Change my mind at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (B23BQ)

180 Please morons, do not take a trip to DC at this time. There are car jacking and murders in the heart of the city. I live just outside DC and haven't been since that fateful day in January. I love the museums and Patriotic sights. But, it is no longer safe no matter how safe you think the venue.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (t/2Uw)

181 At the end of the day that’s the only difference cr r between now and 3 years ago. You’ll pay an extra $50 in gas money.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 22, 2024 12:40 PM (ekupY)

Yeah, try mainsplaining that to a bunch of hysterical, baby-murdering scrunts who can't keep a man because they are hysterical, baby-murdering scrunts.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (i24o9)

182 Abercrombie and Fitch executives arrested for sex trafficking young male models. Shocked, shocked I say
Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (a7PbZ)

There was a doc, on hulu I believe, about the dirty side of A&F last year.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 22, 2024 12:42 PM (CIS44)

183 I'm having steak and eggs because today I pay off my car loan, which was for 7 years at 8.5% but I got it paid off in 8 months, thereby saving myself tens of thousands of dollars in interest.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024

***
Good for you! I paid off my last four car loans early, though not as early as you did, more like at 24 months out of 48. Still was a great thing and wonderful to drive for several years note-free.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 22, 2024 12:42 PM (J2vNu)

184 kamala will listen to what the europeans tells her, because they have the world's best interests at heart, unlike you

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 22, 2024 12:42 PM (CWTWj)

185 or (the long word) for knowing but pretending not to ………

Intentionally obtuse?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:42 PM (D6PGr)

186 Is there a single issue for women that does not involve the cooch? Just one? Inflation? Terrorism? Rampant illegal migration of rapists, murderers, and child traffickers? The dangerously explodingnational debt? The possibility of WWIII breaking out, and turning nuclear?

I know that these are all trifling matters of no significance compared to the burning issue of our time, viz. cooch policy.

And women wonder why they're so often not taken seriously.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:42 PM (pWgGF)

187 At best, the conservative label means nothing to me.

Posted by: Oglebay at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (ogTiX)

188 Fake Town Hall

********

I takes a Potemkin village to praise an Idiot...

Posted by: muldoon at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (uCfKO)

189 Kamala Harris is having Barack Obama step in for her today - she’s taking a day off from campaigning.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Take a break, Kammie! You deserve it!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (uxCna)

190 Wow. I though Paterrico was dead? Or is that the footballs boy?

Posted by: enough BS at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (2NXcZ)

191 Liberal married women don't trust their husbands.
Posted by: Change my mind at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (B23BQ)

They married "real men" like in the kamala commercial.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (pohLc)

192
Absurd: a fertilized egg is a person.

Not absurd: a full-term fetus is a random clump of cells.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:44 PM (EsZUh)

193
"Miss" Warpiggy?

Is it that you are trying to diminish her authoritah or objectify her?

She might think you want to date her.

Posted by: Auspex at October 22, 2024 12:44 PM (j4U/Z)

194 Huh, I forgot all about Patterico.

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at October 22, 2024 12:44 PM (sAmhv)

195 Intentionally obtuse?
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth

Unlike our Doof, who is unintentionally obtuse.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:44 PM (v6JzV)

196
The only people working harder than the president and Vance are Tulsi and RFK. They're both doing events and podcasts every day for Trump 2024.

Posted by: Soothie at October 22, 2024 12:44 PM (CWTYV)

197 Don’t disagree. I just think RFK Jr is literally a nut.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:38 PM (D6PGr)

He has spent too much time pandering to juries and trying to bullshit the world with unending foam of words. If he didn't have money, power and position he would be picking fights in bars, and winning.
He is the sort of guy you want on your side, because the alternative is a really hard fight.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (D7oie)

198 What Liz Cheney said in Michigan, specifically talking about the Republicans who need not fear voting for the vice president.

You can vote your conscience and not ever have to say a word to anybody and there will be millions of republicans who do that on November 5th.

I love how the narrative has flipped from secret T voters to secret Kamala voters. I also love: vote your conscience - appealing to what is good and right.

Liz Cheney and the neocon filth are currently glomming onto the Democratic Party looking for crumbs and helping with foreign policy in Israel (kill everyone not Israeli) and the proxy war in Ukraine.

Bottom line: If Cheney helps, OK. But kick her to the curb on Nov. 6th!

Liz Cheney is finished. She will never hold elected office again. The Republicans have shunned her and the Democrats don't care for her views. I think she's angling for a career on television, perhaps on MSNBC.

If a neocon toady like Jeb! was elected in 2016 and they plotted to steal the election after losing in 2020, Liz Cheney would have been on the steps of the Capitol swinging a flag pole.

Her affection for "Democracy" is undeniably situational.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (JCZqz)

199 I'm having steak and eggs because today I pay off my car loan, which was for 7 years at 8.5% but I got it paid off in 8 months, thereby saving myself tens of thousands of dollars in interest.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 22, 2024

Got three more payments on the truck. I'd do it early but got a great interest rate.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (W/lyH)

200 Please morons, do not take a trip to DC at this time. There are car jacking and murders in the heart of the city.

Savor the diversity!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (pWgGF)

201 And it just so happens the the Atlantic Council with a number of retired CIA Directors on it's board has been deeply involved in Ukraine both during the Hunter/Burisma days and all throughout the war.

The Cheney's have been a big supporter of the war in Ukraine just like they are big supporters of every war.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (LkLld)

202 One question that has not been answered about federal level abortion legislation involves just how it is allowed by the US Constitution.
Much legislation going thru the Congress attaches itself to the Commence Clause. It abortion merely a commercial activity ?

Roe v Wade was always a bad SCOTUS decision because it locked onto ether rather than actual provisions of the Constitution. A federal abortion ban or abortion decriminalization by the Congress would probably have the same problems.

Therefore, there are only two pathways for women.
1) the state legislatures
2) an abortion constitutional amendment

Posted by: SMOD at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (RHGPo)

203 Liz being such a hypocrite who obviously has no actual values beyond the accumulation of power is a tremendous help to the Trump campaign. I'm glad she's out there with Kamala.

No one who sees her thinks "oh gee, I guess Trump is bad; even a republican says so!"

No, people will think "oh look, another career politician throwing away their past record whenever they arbitrarily change allegiances."

Trump won the White House by appealing to disaffected people.

Liz Cheney is the exact kind of politician that makes people disaffected.

Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (pZ0Mr)

204 In a day and a half of in person early voting in Florida, Republicans have gone from down 6% points (from mail in returns) to up over 3%.

But this will not replicate anywhere else. This is only Florida.

For sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (GBKbO)

205 I think I used to get Patterico mixed up with Pethokoukis.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (v6JzV)

206 Vivek too. And Elon. All out doing events in states that matter.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (t/2Uw)

207 Tulsi has my support!

Posted by: Xipe Totec's whanger at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (pohLc)

208 Patterico and Poophat are the same person, right?

Posted by: Oglebay at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (ogTiX)

209 If any of the hysterical wymynses took a second and thought about it, they’d realize Dobbs didn’t change anything. A few states passed true no abortion laws. If you live in one of those states and want one, drive a few hours and you’ll be in a state that allows them.

At the end of the day that’s the only difference cr r between now and 3 years ago. You’ll pay an extra $50 in gas money.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 22, 2024

***
They don't want to take a couple of days off work. They want to have "it" taken care of on their lunch hour in their own neighborhood (they think it'll work like that), like a tooth-cleaning.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (J2vNu)

210 203 Please morons, do not take a trip to DC at this time. There are car jacking and murders in the heart of the city.

Savor the diversity!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:45 PM (pWgGF)
Wait a month.

Posted by: Eromero at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (3Q4mi)

211
AWFLs would be happy to see their fellow citizens murdered by illegals, impoverished by inflation and incinerated in a nuclear war so long as they can have abortions.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (EsZUh)

212
Wow. I though Paterrico was dead? Or is that the footballs boy?
Posted by: enough BS

Both are alive and both have yodeled themselves into irrelevancy (see: Howard Stern).

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (xG4kz)

213 Kamala Harris is having Barack Obama step in for her today - she’s taking a day off from campaigning.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Take a break, Kammie! You deserve it!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (uxCna)

You deserve a break today, at McDonalds !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (NtVYv)

214 134 seriously- pork shoulders were buy one get one, but each weighs about 9 lbs
I'm just one guy
I just wanted a pulled pork sandwich
Posted by: Don Black

Chop and trim them into 3rds, and then freeze them. (after double wrapping them of course. )
===
Get one of those vacuum dealers and a deep freezer. Keep meat for a year plus.
Posted by: Simplemind at October 22, 2024 12:32 PM (B23BQ)

See if your Church has a New Moms meal train or a Meal Train for those who have suffered loss or are dealing with significant illness. Pulled pork would be an idea dinner (protein, low allergy, usable cold or hot) with a slaw...and you could have it, and bless someone else with it.

This is my plan when my household drops to 2. Anything I love that will be a normal bulk make will be given to another family who might need it.

You can also see if Church youth groups might want it. Mine gave me tons of thanks for my fruit trays and brownies in cupcake liners this weekend (I got 4 separate thanks...which is a record. And it wasn't necessary, b/c I already told them I was bringing food twice in November, so I didn't need buttering up, but I did appreciate it).

Or even your neighbor - dinner swap?

Posted by: Nova Local at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (exHjb)

215 Liberal married women don't trust their husbands.
Posted by: Change my mind at October 22, 2024 12:41 PM (B23BQ)

They married "real men" like in the kamala commercial.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (pohLc)

Cheryl Hines married RFK Jr knowing about his journal which described over 30 affairs he had while married to his previous , now dead wife.

Distrust had to be in the back of her mind even if she didn’t want to have it.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (D6PGr)

216 It’s really quite funny to watch Cheney dancing like a monkey on a leash while Kamala grinds away on the organ.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (cV2we)

217
But a prominent guy saying, "take fewer drugs and eat fewer processed foods" is probably a good thing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024

He just recently came out in favor of returning beef tallow to cook french fries in - as opposed to whatever crap they use now.

Commonsense, not prohibitively expensive, healthier. Tastes good.

But I could see him proposing something which could cause the price of food to skyrocket and inflation to take off.

Which is why Trump said, "I may have to rein him in at a certain point." Good for Trump.

I hope someone can come up with an alternative to spraying Roundup on grains destined for breakfast cereals. I won't buy them anymore because I have a front row seat to a grain baler with a huge tank of chemical spraying the grain at preset intervals.

Maybe vinegar? IDK.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (MwtZ5)

218 "Former life-long Republican."

They keep using that phrase. I do not think it means what they think it means...

Posted by: Max Power at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (q177U)

219 idea = ideal (dang typo)

Posted by: Nova Local at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (exHjb)

220 They really love killing babies.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (ufFY8)

221 Liz is to Republican politics what Dick is to pheasant hunting

Posted by: crabgrass farmer at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (CTUih)

222 I love how the narrative has flipped from secret T voters to secret Kamala voters. I also love: vote your conscience - appealing to what is good and right.

Good and right??

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (pWgGF)

223 Patterico… I have no idea who this person is; never heard of him. Name sounds similar to Joe Paterno, former and now deceased Penn State football coach….. associated with Jerry Sandusky scumbag but I’ve always assumed JoePa was too naive to even contemplate Sandusky’s level of depravity

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (P/Wjn)

224 Please morons, do not take a trip to DC at this time. There are car jacking and murders in the heart of the city.

Savor the diversity!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024

***
I've got more than enough die-versity right here in Da Swamp. No need to travel to see more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (J2vNu)

225
It’s really quite funny to watch Cheney dancing like a monkey on a leash while Kamala grinds away on the organ.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (cV2we)

_________

Wording...

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (EsZUh)

226 "Liz Cheney: Anti-Abortion Laws in the States Have Gone Too Far"

Why are Lesbians so hell bent on murdering children in the womb?

Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (evaxF)

227 Both are alive and both have yodeled themselves into irrelevancy (see: Howard Stern).
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (xG4kz)

Thanks. Maybe I was thinking of that Arthur Treacher guy who got hit by a car.

Posted by: enough BS at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM (2NXcZ)

228 AWFLs would be happy to see their fellow citizens murdered by illegals, impoverished by inflation and incinerated in a nuclear war so long as they can have abortions.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:46 PM (EsZUh)

That and screwing their personal trainer boy toys.

Posted by: Archer at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM (IDphi)

229 222 I love how the narrative has flipped from secret T voters to secret Kamala voters. I also love: vote your conscience - appealing to what is good and right.

Good and right??
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (pWgGF)

========

$5 says crossover voting will be within historical norms of 8-10% from each party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM (GBKbO)

230 Please don't abort my cat.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM (ufFY8)

231 It’s really quite funny to watch Cheney dancing like a monkey on a leash while Kamala grinds away on the organ.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (cV2we)

And not the first organ she's ground away on, either.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM (pWgGF)

232 Posted by: Civic Classifier

There's a doc who does a radio show here in DC who advises against drinking wines from California because they spray the vineyards with Roundup.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM (v6JzV)

233 Hey, anyone ask Cheney to comment on America’s birthrate being so low we “need” immigration to fill the deficit?

That needs to be asked every dang time they bring up abortion.

Does the future belong to our kids, or theirs?

Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (Hkcdp)

234 It’s really quite funny to watch Cheney dancing like a monkey on a leash while Kamala grinds away on the organ.

Posted by: Tom Servo

Phrasing's pretty dead and buried hereabouts, isn't it?

Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (OUMaO)

235 This is the most shocking thing since my Rice Krispies started snapping, crackling and popping when I poured milk on them.

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (hmOfI)

236 Why are Lesbians so hell bent on murdering children in the womb?
Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (evaxF)

Grrrrl power or something.

Posted by: enough BS at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (2NXcZ)

237 Cheney was only ever “against” abortion because it made for great fundraising.

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (yhJ3f)

238
>>>I love how the narrative has flipped from secret Trump voters to secret kamala voters. I also love: vote your conscience - appealing to what is good and right.

LOL. This is the "Narrative" in her head she speaks of. (Yes, I'm sure the writer is a woman.)

Posted by: Soothie at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (CWTYV)

239 Is there a single issue for women that does not involve the cooch? Just one?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay

*********

Remember that 'thing' a couple. few decades ago where it was amusing to add "...between the sheets." after any sentence and it was supposed to be funny?

I care about inflation...in my cooch."

I'm concerned about the impact of terrorism...in my cooch!"

"I'm concerned about the impact of global warming on baby seals...in my cooch"

Posted by: muldoon at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (uCfKO)

240 You can vote your conscience and not ever have to say a word to anybody and there will be millions of republicans who do that on November 5th.
______

Projection. Trump voters might get frustrated with 'conservative' that votes for Kammie, or mock them. But it's the D voter that votes for Trump that could face serious consequences if it becomes known.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (i9RgK)

241 233 Hey, anyone ask Cheney to comment on America’s birthrate being so low we “need” immigration to fill the deficit?

That needs to be asked every dang time they bring up abortion.

Does the future belong to our kids, or theirs?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (Hkcdp)

I think Bill Clinton brought that up

Posted by: enough BS at October 22, 2024 12:51 PM (2NXcZ)

242 The only people working harder than the president and Vance are Tulsi and RFK. They're both doing events and podcasts every day for Trump 2024.
Posted by: Soothie at October 22, 2024 12:44 PM (CWTYV)
***

A woman I know is the CEO of a small but successful software company. (code for liberal investors) so she tries to avoid political discussions. But she opened her yap the other day saying both Walz and Vance were about the same and were very poor choices. She was disappointed in both parties.

She got stomped immediately.
I told her off line that Vance is probably the most professional, prepared, and intelligent VP candidate since Bush senior. And in the last century easily one of the top three (I'd give a nod to Humphry or maybe Truman)
She pulled her comment...crickets since.
heh.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 22, 2024 12:51 PM (W/lyH)

243 Dear Donald, I wrote you, but you still ain't callin'
I left my cell, my pager and my home phone at the bottom
I sent two letters back in autumn, you must not've got 'em
There prob'ly was a problem at the post office or somethin'
Guess I'll go do this Kamala rally
I want to stay relevant so badly....

Posted by: Eminem at October 22, 2024 12:51 PM (NGHTx)

244 In a world that includes birth control pills, IUDs & condoms, there need no be so many abortions

I realize this thought does not comport with reality

how difficult is it to NOT get pregnant

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:51 PM (/7KEl)

245 Why are Lesbians so hell bent on murdering children in the womb?
Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (evaxF)

And/or getting some fruit to load the turkey baster for them.

Go figure.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (pWgGF)

246 not

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (/7KEl)

247 I wonder which ladypart has more slang terms, the vagina or the breasts.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (v6JzV)

248 So RINO Liz Cheney is to abortion what RINO John McCain was to Obamacare: For it.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (qUkBO)

249 At least JFK jr is consistent on GMO foods and the mRNA vaccines.

It’s sadly hilarious watching people who would rather people starve rather than giving them GMO food demand mandates for the COVID vax.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (D6PGr)

250 >>>I love how the narrative has flipped from secret Trump voters to secret kamala voters. I also love: vote your conscience - appealing to what is good and right.

LOL. This is the "Narrative" in her head she speaks of. (Yes, I'm sure the writer is a woman.)
Posted by: Soothie at October 22, 2024 12:50 PM (CWTYV)

This is just setting the stage for a steal. "Secret Kamala Voters?" Bullshit

Posted by: enough BS at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (2NXcZ)

251 So what is it the "principled nevertrumpers" are principled about again?

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (hmOfI)

252 I still can't get over how bizarre it is that Harris thinks Cheney is an electoral draw.

Like, who the F are these voters she's appealing to?
"Even this Republican says Trump is unstable and unfit for office."
That's her main campaign ad.

Hmmm.
Ties in to Dave in FL's post--the only path to victory is depressing the Republican vote.
But, early data is, Republicans in red areas are blowing the doors off.
And her campaign is assuming Rs in blue/purple areas won't be similarly motivated?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 22, 2024 12:53 PM (6miZe)

253 I bet they're about equal in terms of influence.

My sphygmomanometer says otherwise.
Posted by: Archimedes

Optic nerve should have told you.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 22, 2024 12:53 PM (46V5Z)

254 251 So what is it the "principled nevertrumpers" are principled about again?
Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (hmOfI)

Lying
Protecting the Graft

Posted by: Nova Local at October 22, 2024 12:53 PM (exHjb)

255 Why are Lesbians so hell bent on murdering children in the womb?

*********

What if the turkey baster leaves them for the lady down the block in mid-pregnancy?

Posted by: muldoon at October 22, 2024 12:53 PM (uCfKO)

256 I hope someone can come up with an alternative to spraying Roundup on grains destined for breakfast cereals. I won't buy them anymore because I have a front row seat to a grain baler with a huge tank of chemical spraying the grain at preset intervals.

Maybe vinegar? IDK.
Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 22, 2024 12:47 PM (MwtZ5)

They used to reap it into winrows, then bind it to dry, and then thresh it when it was good and dry.
Round-up is just faster.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM (D7oie)

257 When does everyone acknowledge the jig is up on Cheney? It's way past time. You get one chance to be the principled politician putting country over party. When you do it multiple times, you've actually switched parties. Colin Powell got away with this for a decade. Cheney is now campaigning for Democrat Senate candidates and advocating for abortion. There is no credible case that she is putting country over party and this is all about Trump. She's just another freaking soulless Democrat.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM (IORSH)

258 In a world that includes birth control pills, IUDs & condoms, there need no be so many abortions

I realize this thought does not comport with reality

how difficult is it to NOT get pregnant
Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 12:51 PM (/7KEl)

You'd think, wouldn't you? Wasn't that one of the arguments for making birth control widely available?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM (pWgGF)

259 I intentionally stopped reading Patterico years ago, what an idiot he is. Makes me feel good that I was right.

Posted by: Frank Jr. at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM (30qLr)

260
It’s really quite funny to watch Cheney dancing like a monkey on a leash while Kamala grinds away on the organ.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Meanwhile, somewhere in the Upper Midwest, an organ grinder remains perplexed and downcast that his performing monkey, Tim, is still missing.

The real mystery / miracle is that the hapless primate found a way to doff his short jacket and little cap when he wandered into the Executive Mansion of Minnesota and was then hailed as "Governor" when he donned apparel that formerly belonged to a recently deceased guy with the initials "TW".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM (xG4kz)

261 How weird will it be if The Steal only had the effect of getting rid of Mike Pence...

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM (hmOfI)

262 Was there a sign at that "townhall" saying "You'll get no boners here."

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 12:55 PM (1bNHn)

263
You think jeff cuck flake jazzes up the D base? Or anyone?

They hate jeff flake! Everyone hates jerf flake.

To the Democrats, jeff flake is best known for being the RINO Cuck who still voted to confirm Kavanaugh.

To Republicans, cuck flake is best kmown as the fake Tea Party candidate who instantly turned RINO cuck.

Posted by: Soothie at October 22, 2024 12:55 PM (CWTYV)

264 257 When does everyone acknowledge the jig is up on Cheney? It's way past time. You get one chance to be the principled politician putting country over party. When you do it multiple times, you've actually switched parties. Colin Powell got away with this for a decade. Cheney is now campaigning for Democrat Senate candidates and advocating for abortion. There is no credible case that she is putting country over party and this is all about Trump. She's just another freaking soulless Democrat.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM (IORSH)

=======

She's propped up by Democrats trying to make her relevant. They will continue to do this for the next 20 years, hiring her on at NGOs to pay her bills and trotting her out onto cable news for a few months every 2 years to talk about how Republicans have lost their way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:55 PM (GBKbO)

265
I love the promos for "Conclave" which describe "the secret vote" for a new pope. But this is how it works:

1) In the Sistine Chapel before each session, there's a roll call to determine how many ballots will be cast.
2) The cardinals write their choice on a ballot and individually place it in a chalice.
3

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:55 PM (EsZUh)

266 This post is probably the first time anyone has quoted Patterico in at least 5 years. Funny, he used to be somebody in our circles; now he’s got the same readership as the average 14 year old girls Meta page.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 12:55 PM (cV2we)

267 there a single issue for women that does not involve the cooch? Just one?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay

*********

Remember that 'thing' a couple. few decades ago where it was amusing to add "...between the sheets." after any sentence and it was supposed to be funny?

I care about inflation...in my cooch."

I'm concerned about the impact of terrorism...in my cooch
!
===
Keep the government out of my snatch

Posted by: Julia Louis dreyfuss with no sense of irony at October 22, 2024 12:56 PM (B23BQ)

268 They married "real men" like in the kamala commercial.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 22, 2024 12:43 PM (pohLc)

With that crew the risk isn't pregnancy, it's HIV and monkeypox.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 12:56 PM (pWgGF)

269 >>>I am loving watching the Harris campaign crash and burn. The recriminations after the election will be lit.

i can't wait until she loses and we hear all of the admissions on top of the recriminations, like the media's sudden discovery that she has a drinking problem that has been an open secret for decades.

Posted by: ace at October 22, 2024 12:56 PM (KRtlO)

270 This is great. I sadly talked politics with one of my few remaining friends and she's a LIV kind of ex-hippy chick but very intelligent.

She talked about how Republicans like Liz Chaney...

This is what the Dems have done, taken a horrible person and turned her into a "typical" Republican.

I told her that Liz Cheney was a construct. She is just an example of anyone, D or R that exists in DC.

Now, my childless friend has to admit that being against abortion isn't a high-minded moral choice.

It's political.

This is going to be hard for her to accept. Get with the times, Honey.

Posted by: pawn at October 22, 2024 12:57 PM (QB+5g)

271 Civilization is dying (both East and West) for lack of children, yet many women are voting solely for their right to kill their babies. It's got to be a combo of mental illness, meds and a diet of seed oil and corn syrup so that they make good batteries for The Matrix

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 22, 2024 12:57 PM (wBaIH)

272 269 >>>I am loving watching the Harris campaign crash and burn. The recriminations after the election will be lit.

i can't wait until she loses and we hear all of the admissions on top of the recriminations, like the media's sudden discovery that she has a drinking problem that has been an open secret for decades.
Posted by: ace at October 22, 2024 12:56 PM (KRtlO)

========

"I had the perfect gameplan, but she wouldn't listen to me!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:57 PM (GBKbO)

273 Cheney replaced Romney the way Kerry replaced Gore. They just sort of slide these people in and they magically read from the exact same script while the other person quietly disappears from view.

They have some degree of effect on low-fo's because low-fo's love when they recognize someone's name. It makes them feel all intelligent and shit.

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 12:57 PM (hmOfI)

274
i can't wait until she loses and we hear all of the admissions on top of the recriminations, like the media's sudden discovery that she has a drinking problem that has been an open secret for decades.
Posted by: ace at October 22, 2024

***
The tell-all books will be glorious. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 22, 2024 12:57 PM (J2vNu)

275 There is no credible case that she is putting country over party and this is all about Trump. She's just another freaking soulless Democrat.
===
uniparty

Posted by: It explains it neatly at October 22, 2024 12:58 PM (B23BQ)

276 What if the turkey baster leaves them for the lady down the block in mid-pregnancy?

There are plenty of cucumbers in the grocery store.

Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at October 22, 2024 12:58 PM (evaxF)

277 No one I know cares about Liz -- clearly, she's a tool -- but I'm keeping track of her crazy statements. I use it as a measure of her (and her ilk's) desperation. Hopefully, whatever ugly past she has is exposed during Trump's second administration.

Posted by: Coki at October 22, 2024 12:58 PM (Wkrcf)

278 273 Cheney replaced Romney the way Kerry replaced Gore. They just sort of slide these people in and they magically read from the exact same script while the other person quietly disappears from view.

They have some degree of effect on low-fo's because low-fo's love when they recognize someone's name. It makes them feel all intelligent and shit.
Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 12:57 PM (hmOfI)

=======

If Hogan wins, it'll be him next.

With Romney and Cheney out of power, they need new blood to get us those lifetime Republicans who hate the newest form of the Republican Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

279
3) The number of ballots is counted and must agree with the number of cardinals present, otherwise they all have to cast them again.
4) The ballots are examined by each of three cardinals (scrutators), who announce who the ballot is for.
5) The results are reviewed by a second set of three cardinals (revisors) to make sure the scrutators didn't make a mistake.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (EsZUh)

280 269 >>>I am loving watching the Harris campaign crash and burn. The recriminations after the election will be lit.

i can't wait until she loses and we hear all of the admissions on top of the recriminations, like the media's sudden discovery that she has a drinking problem that has been an open secret for decades.
Posted by: ace at October 22, 2024 12:56 PM (KRtlO)

But there will be recriminations that the white male patriarchy didn't set her up for success.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (N39Ws)

281 In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet (lurking liberals perhaps?)
The Townhall Scam:
Make 10 pre-approved & scripted questions. Ask audience to submit their questions. ONLY select questions that match the scripted ones.
Easy-breezy.

Posted by: 5Cats at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (hv5ip)

282 How bad is the Kamala campaign? If reports are to be believed, her campaign is heavily staffed with 20 something year old know nothings.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (tT6L1)

283 198 Liz Cheney and the neocon filth are currently glomming onto the Democratic Party looking for crumbs and helping with foreign policy in Israel (kill everyone not Israeli) and the proxy war in Ukraine.

Bottom line: If Cheney helps, OK. But kick her to the curb on Nov. 6th

No can do. We had a carefully crafted, legally binding no return policy. She is your opportunist now, Dems.

Posted by: Piper at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (p4NUW)

284 Why are Lesbians so hell bent on murdering children in the womb?
Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at October 22, 2024 12:48 PM (evaxF)

If they can convince people to murder their children what else can they convince you to do?

I always wondered how places that sacrificed babies to Moloch or other demons convinced parents to go along. Turns out it is easy, barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (aDMGZ)

285 Huh, Liz Cheney has five kids per Wikipedia. I assumed she was childless like Kamala. I guess if you have a lot of mouths to feed some people will do anything for money. The more you know...

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (i9RgK)

286 Every single one of the "KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OFF MY BODY!!" people clapped like a baby seal when the Biden Administration ordered them to take the COVID jab in order to keep their job.

Posted by: Jay in PA at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (i7Q7S)

287 Kamala Harris is having Barack Obama step in for her today - she’s taking a day off from campaigning.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Take a break, Kammie! You deserve it!
Posted by: The ARC of History!

I'm old enough to remember when Trump was too old and feeble to run because he was skipping events and slowing down his schedule. I was born yesterday.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (JCZqz)

288 NBC: Why Handpicking a Zero IQ Harlot Who Sucked Her Way to the Top Maybe Wasn't a Great Idea

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (hmOfI)

289 Cheney add War Pig cache to the lefties who thought they were antiwar

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (wBaIH)

290 well two things:

1 - I love that the mask is off these supposed pro-lifers like Liz and Linds. just moles for the Ds.

2 - I used to attend and donate to the People's Light. I will never, ever EVER darken their doors again. And I'm not alone. you guys can get 100 percent of your budget from govt how's that.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (s3qiR)

291 Ambercrombie & Fitch former CEO arrested for secks trafficking.
I can’t post the link, I’m on the fly…

Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (9JW8j)

292 But there will be recriminations that the white male patriarchy didn't set her up for success.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

I didn't know white males had to set up stronk black wimmins for sucess.

I thought other stronk wimmenses would do that.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (fzdyS)

293
They used to reap it into winrows, then bind it to dry, and then thresh it when it was good and dry.
Round-up is just faster.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2024 12:54 PM

They still do something similar, cutting, dispersing to dry, then baling. A couple of day procedure, weather permitting.

I've used Roundup before, will continue in the future, but to see a healthy plant (weed actually) one day, then sprayed, and almost dead the next? I want nothing to do with eating that stuff in whatever minuscule quantity they claim.

I've spoken with 'landscapers' who now use vinegar to kill. It's probably a higher acid concentration then what we'd buy in the grocery store.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (MwtZ5)

294 If Hogan wins, it'll be him next.

With Romney and Cheney out of power, they need new blood to get us those lifetime Republicans who hate the newest form of the Republican Party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

He's better than Cheney...which isn't saying much, but you can find something redeeming about him...not so sure you can about nepo baby...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (exHjb)

295 The divide between the platforms between the Left and Right is so large that anyone from one party voting and advocating for the other looks foolish and never can credibly argue that they were ever what they claimed to be.

At least the prominent Dems who are voting against Harris have left the party unlike the fake Republicans ( which is more proof they have always been on the Left)

As alway this is just my opinion.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (D6PGr)

296 The Vance pick indicates that he's not listening to GOPe consultants anymore, and that will extend to his cabinet, including the AG.

Heavy, heavy risk just letting him win.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Agreed. The AG pick will be the most critical of all, as all will flow from an AG with real integrity.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (w9Wax)

297
I want to check your Uterus for Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Posted by: Dick Cheney at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (+oR7L)

298
Has anyone asked the Weeping Pussy, Adam Kinzinger, how he's managing his very own "woman's health care issues"?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (xG4kz)

299 LOL. This is the "Narrative" in her head she speaks of. (Yes, I'm sure the writer is a woman.)
Posted by: Soothie

Counterpoint- spend some time with extremely liberal "men", and you might not be so sure. Maybe that KJB had such a hard time defining "what is a woman?"

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (JCZqz)

300 Ambercrombie & Fitch former CEO arrested for secks trafficking.
I can’t post the link, I’m on the fly…
Posted by: kallisto

I saw that on Facebook.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (fzdyS)

301 4) The ballots are examined by each of three cardinals (scrutators), who announce who the ballot is for.
_______

Scrutators?

Posted by: Brian Stelter at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (i9RgK)

302 Take a break, Kammie! You deserve it!

Would you like fries with your whine, Kamala?

Posted by: DJT at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (DyY8E)

303 If Hogan wins, it'll be him next.

With Romney and Cheney out of power, they need new blood to get us those lifetime Republicans who hate the newest form of the Republican Party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 12:58 PM (GBKbO)

Person needs to have a famous name.

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 01:02 PM (hmOfI)

304
WTF is going on with all these supposed hostage-family-members- who are protesting for Netanyahoo to surrender and agree to a "cease fire?"

Posted by: Soothie at October 22, 2024 01:02 PM (CWTYV)

305 I hope someone can come up with an alternative to spraying Roundup on grains destined for breakfast cereals. I won't buy them anymore because I have a front row seat to a grain baler with a huge tank of chemical spraying the grain at preset intervals.

Don't worry about it. Roundup is, per current research, about as innocuous as any compound can be. Even the IARC, as big a bunch of bed writers as CA be found, failed to find a problem with it - "pending further research." That's a ringing endorsement coming from them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 01:02 PM (pWgGF)

306 285 Huh, Liz Cheney has five kids per Wikipedia. I assumed she was childless like Kamala. I guess if you have a lot of mouths to feed some people will do anything for money. The more you know...
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (i9RgK)

Yeah, one of them was actually baptized at the same ceremony as one of ours. Way back when, we thought that was pretty cool.

How the times, they have a-changed.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 22, 2024 01:02 PM (LxER7)

307 I've spoken with 'landscapers' who now use vinegar to kill. It's probably a higher acid concentration then what we'd buy in the grocery store.
Posted by: Civic Classifier

Grocery store is 5%.
Home Depot is 6%.
Farm & Ranch stores are 33%.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (fzdyS)

308 The Vance pick indicates that he's not listening to GOPe consultants anymore, and that will extend to his cabinet, including the AG.

Heavy, heavy risk just letting him win.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I think people forget that Vance was a huge Trump critic at one time. Needless to say he has adjusted his viewpoint a bit.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (D6PGr)

309 291 Ambercrombie & Fitch former CEO arrested for secks trafficking.
I can’t post the link, I’m on the fly…
Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (9JW8j)

-------

That guy was suspicious from the get-go. He's got an effed-up face. Not sure if it's natural or he did some shit to it.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (jyAD3)

310 288 NBC: Why Handpicking a Zero IQ Harlot Who Sucked Her Way to the Top Maybe Wasn't a Great Idea

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 01:00 PM (hmOfI)

========

It wasn't supposed to have any negative consequences!

Like raising taxes!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (GBKbO)

311 Why are obese cattle even Mexicans wouldn't fuck so hell bent on murdering children in the womb?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (i0bTX)

312 Trump said to drink vinegar.

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (hmOfI)

313 Wanna know how I know that the Cheney War Pigs are completely irrelevant?

Trump has never mentioned them once. Not one attack, not one nickname, nothing.

And how often have we admonished him for punching down?
She's so insignificant only CNN thinks she's important.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (6miZe)

314 We just got Liz.out of government two years ago. Now Kamala wants to put y'all back in Cheneys!

Posted by: muldoon at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (uCfKO)

315 296 The Vance pick indicates that he's not listening to GOPe consultants anymore, and that will extend to his cabinet, including the AG.

Heavy, heavy risk just letting him win.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Agreed. The AG pick will be the most critical of all, as all will flow from an AG with real integrity.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (w9Wax)

AG requires Senate approval - everyone better be going balls-to-the-wall to win EVERY R Senate seat, b/c you need to overcome the girls and Mitch to even have a prayer of a good AG...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (exHjb)

316 Ambercrombie & Fitch former CEO arrested for secks trafficking.

Exercising our reproductive freedoms, H8er!

Posted by: Somewhere on Epstein's list at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (/tXXR)

317 Liz Cheney is like 6-week-old Baba Ghanoush take-out in the refrigerator. No bueno.

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (qUkBO)

318 What the heck is this crazy Cheney lady up to??

Posted by: PJU at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (RRCAT)

319 But there will be recriminations that the white male patriarchy didn't set her up for success.
===
If you ever had toddlers, you recognize the negotiation strategy tantrum, blame shifting and situational amnesia. You can't expect reasonable negotiations from toddlers. That's not the game they are playing.

Posted by: It explains it neatly at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (B23BQ)

320 Cheney replaced Romney the way Kerry replaced Gore. They just sort of slide these people in and they magically read from the exact same script while the other person quietly disappears from view.

I just suffered Bob Dole flashbacks.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (JCZqz)

321 Posted by: muldoon at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (uCfKO)

How are you doing, my friend.

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (hmOfI)

322 Liz’s sister is the Lesbo,

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (D6PGr)

323 Agreed. The AG pick will be the most critical of all, as all will flow from an AG with real integrity.

I'd consider Jason Miyares (AG-Va).

Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (xCA6C)

324 Counterpoint- spend some time with extremely liberal "men", and you might not be so sure. Maybe that KJB had such a hard time defining "what is a woman?"

Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (JCZqz

Should've asked her what a Negro is, just to watch her squirm..

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (pWgGF)

325 296 Agreed. The AG pick will be the most critical of all, as all will flow from an AG with real integrity.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 22, 2024 01:01 PM (w9Wax)

========

I really want it to be DeSantis.

Name recognition to get him past the Senate. Actually a lawyer. Experience taking on institutionalized rot.

He could do very well. Maybe not as well as some random USA I've never heard of, but if the longer-term point of the Trump administration is prepping for 2028, giving DeSantis a national platform to shine from is not a bad choice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (GBKbO)

326 Boy howdy, that Liz Cheney sure sounds like a stout modern Catholic warrior defending all the innocent little women's healths inside the big women's healths. Her path to judgement will be straight and unerring.

Posted by: St. Peter at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (Ybyk2)

327 How come Ace still lists a leftwing nutjob like Patterico in the Bloggers in Arms section in the sidebar?

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (9aVck)

328 There was this story about how the Christian Scientists had placed a telephone in the casket with Mary Baker Eddy, a founder of Christian Science. The line ran to a nearby Christian Scientist reading room. Well, one night some prankster managed to hook up to the phone line and make the phone in the reading room actually ring. You can imagine the reaction.

Posted by: SMOD at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (RHGPo)

329
I've spoken with 'landscapers' who now use vinegar to kill. It's probably a higher acid concentration then what we'd buy in the grocery store.
Posted by: Civic Classifier

You can acquire 30% acetic acid vinegar (that last word is redundant, but folks these days are chemicalogically ignorant) at big box stores or farm supply stores.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (xG4kz)

330 I really want it to be DeSantis.

me too me too me too

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (s3qiR)

331 Trump never really cared about abortion but is pretty honest about it. Cheney, who once told voters fetuses have a constitutional right to life, never cared all along either.

Crystaline.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (aD39U)

332 Money cow whore.

Posted by: Plainoldtoast at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (ytSiK)

333 323 Agreed. The AG pick will be the most critical of all, as all will flow from an AG with real integrity.

I'd consider Jason Miyares (AG-Va).
Posted by: Archimedes at October 22, 2024 01:05 PM (xCA6C)

Since he was beaten to running for VA Gov for 2025, he has the option of rerunning for VA AG or trying to step up nationally. He'd be a great pick, but VA would miss him...

Posted by: Nova Local at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (exHjb)

334
Pelosi has a drinking problem, too.

No shortage of young enablers willing to step up and take abuse in pursuit of a glamorous career in federal bureaucracyland.

Posted by: Auspex at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (j4U/Z)

335 I think people forget that Vance was a huge Trump critic at one time. Needless to say he has adjusted his viewpoint a bit.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (D6PGr)

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I'm not sure what to think about that, but I used to support Bush and Cheney so...people can change.

Posted by: Seems Legit at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (jyAD3)

336 Roe vs. Wade

"the Court formulated a timetable based on the notions of trimester and fetal viability (i.e., the “capability of meaningful life outside the mother’s womb”

. During the first trimester of pregnancy, the Court ruled, the state could not intervene in a person’s decision to have an abortion under normal circumstances. During the second trimester the state could regulate abortion procedures to protect the health of pregnant persons, but it could not prohibit abortions altogether. From the end of the second trimester, which the Court identified as the starting point of viability, the state could regulate or prohibit abortions in order to protect the pregnant person’s health or to preserve fetal viability. In no case, however, could the state criminalize abortions that were necessary to protect the life or health of the pregnant person."
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Sound kind of like some states abortion laws. For the math impaired a trimester is 12 weeks.

Posted by: javems at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (8I4hW)

337 Someone ask Liz why she doesn't abort herself.

Posted by: torabora at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (Tty2O)

338 DeSantis for AG. Seconded

Posted by: Ben Had at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (t8vHj)

339 Posted by: Ben Had at October 22, 2024 01:06 PM (t8vHj)

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Who got my books?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finding suspense, madness, and humanity with Michael Powell at October 22, 2024 01:07 PM (GBKbO)

340 Agreed. The AG pick will be the most critical of all, as all will flow from an AG with real integrity.

he raped me

Posted by: Me and my beach friends at October 22, 2024 01:07 PM (NGHTx)

341 232 Posted by: Civic Classifier

There's a doc who does a radio show here in DC who advises against drinking wines from California because they spray the vineyards with Roundup.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM

They don't all use roundup. The big thing is organic and sustainably grown grapes. If you read the label they will usually brag about how the grapes are grown.
Wine grape growers are going broke and are pulling up their vines. It's been bad for years.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 22, 2024 01:07 PM (oaoUQ)

342
How come Ace still lists a leftwing nutjob like Patterico in the Bloggers in Arms section in the sidebar?
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

Do you clean out the debris and detritus in every corner of your abode? Probably not.

Same thing here at the HQ.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 01:07 PM (xG4kz)

343 >What the heck is this crazy Cheney lady up to??
--

desperately trying to be relevant
a girl's gotta eat

Posted by: Don Black, re-positioning the funk for max effect at October 22, 2024 01:08 PM (/7KEl)

344 I've spoken with 'landscapers' who now use vinegar to kill. It's probably a higher acid concentration then what we'd buy in the grocery store.
Posted by: Civic Classifier

Roundup hydrolyzes to glycine, an ubiquitous amino acid related to vinegar (also a carboxylic acid).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 01:08 PM (pWgGF)

345 Grocery store is 5%.
Home Depot is 6%.
Farm & Ranch stores are 33%.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices

Grandma Bubchka's beet pickle juice is 50%.

Posted by: Vladimir Putin, stealing America's elections in style at October 22, 2024 01:08 PM (JCZqz)

346
Don't worry about it. Roundup is, per current research, about as innocuous as any compound can be. Even the IARC, as big a bunch of bed writers as CA be found, failed to find a problem with it - "pending further research." That's a ringing endorsement coming from them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 01:02 PM

Come on over to my place. I'll make you a great salad with homegrown everything, tomatoes, cucumbers, and a couple of varieties of lettuce. Your choice of dressing, Roundup, vinegar, or something else.

I have a feeling no one is reaching for the Roundup.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 22, 2024 01:08 PM (MwtZ5)

347 Counterpoint- spend some time with extremely liberal "men", and you might not be so sure. Maybe that KJB had such a hard time defining "what is a woman?"
Posted by: Moron Analyst

Should've asked her what a Negro is, just to watch her squirm..
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Why isn't Elon Musk or Charlize Theron African American?

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 22, 2024 01:08 PM (fzdyS)

348 No idea where that smile face came from.

Posted by: javems at October 22, 2024 01:08 PM (8I4hW)

349 Wine grape growers are going broke and are pulling up their vines. It's been bad for years.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 22, 2024 01:07 PM (oaoUQ)

I'm doing my part for the industry.. Hiccup

Posted by: Kamala at October 22, 2024 01:09 PM (IyPmt)

350
Regular vinegar for human consumption is 3% acetic acid, by the way.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2024 01:09 PM (xG4kz)

351 TJM, polliwog got one but I don't remember the second one. I'm sure they will mention it.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 22, 2024 01:09 PM (t8vHj)

352 Liz is just embarrassing herself and her children. Unfortunately, Liz isn't self aware enough to realize how much she's abased herself.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (tT6L1)

353 I won’t comment on Trump’s prior abortion stances and his changes when he became the nominee.

Whatever his motivation his actions as President is what counts.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (D6PGr)

354 If any of the hysterical wymynses took a second and thought about it, they’d realize Dobbs didn’t change anything. A few states passed true no abortion laws. If you live in one of those states and want one, drive a few hours and you’ll be in a state that allows them.

At the end of the day that’s the only difference cr r between now and 3 years ago. You’ll pay an extra $50 in gas money.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 22, 2024

The women aren't really losing something but the Federal Senators and Reps and Fundraisers are because they don't have that one magic issue that can get their supporters out and marching which raises money from big ticket donors. Making it a state issue moves that effort out of DC.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (n7h9X)

355 There's a doc who does a radio show here in DC who advises against drinking wines from California because they spray the vineyards with Roundup.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM

They don't all use roundup. The big thing is organic and sustainably grown grapes. If you read the label they will usually brag about how the grapes are grown.
Wine grape growers are going broke and are pulling up their vines. It's been bad for years.
Posted by: CaliGirl

You should never drink wine. Only single malt scotch.

Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (fzdyS)

356 i can't wait until she loses and we hear all of the admissions on top of the recriminations, like the media's sudden discovery that she has a drinking problem that has been an open secret for decades.
Posted by: ace at October 22, 2024 12:56 PM (KRtlO)

I look forward to this too. Followed in the spring with articles about how the Republican Party is in shambles (even though they hold the white house, Senate, and House). This is always what is written. The Democrats never need to reconsider anything. Only their messaging or, in rare cases, their flawed messenger (acknowledged only after the loss).

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (IORSH)

357 340 Agreed. The AG pick will be the most critical of all, as all will flow from an AG with real integrity.

he raped me
Posted by: Me and my beach friends

She doesn't remember when, where, or have any contemporaneous evidence, but her house DOES have two doors, soooo....guilty.

Posted by: The Media at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (JCZqz)

358 335 I think people forget that Vance was a huge Trump critic at one time. Needless to say he has adjusted his viewpoint a bit.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:03 PM (D6PGr)

I’m still a huge Trump critic, there’s lots he could do better. But he’s the perfect man for this time and this place, and it’s stupid to fight it like the never trumpers do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 01:11 PM (cV2we)

359 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I just checked his health:
" The Vatican has reported that Pope Francis’ health is stable, with ongoing treatment for lung inflammation stemming from a flu infection. (September 23, 2024) "

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 22, 2024 01:11 PM (46V5Z)

360 Wow, Patterico making an overly pedantic bad faith argument? That's crazy.

Posted by: Cave Johnson at October 22, 2024 01:11 PM (4T6oL)

361 on't worry about it. Roundup is, per current research, about as innocuous as any compound can be. Even the IARC, as big a bunch of bed writers as CA be found, failed to find a problem with it - "pending further research." That's a ringing endorsement coming from them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 22, 2024 01:02 PM

Round Up the new DDT ?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:11 PM (D6PGr)

362
You should never drink wine. Only single malt scotch.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (fzdyS)

If I had barrels of scotch I'd probably drink that but I have wine. We push the wine, I'm long on wine.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 22, 2024 01:12 PM (oaoUQ)

363 You should never drink wine. Only single malt scotch.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 22, 2024 01:10 PM (fzdyS)

Bourbon.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 01:12 PM (cV2we)

364 days a nood

Posted by: fd at October 22, 2024 01:12 PM (vFG9F)

365
I don't see my own drinking as a problem; more like... an opportunity.

Posted by: Auspex at October 22, 2024 01:12 PM (j4U/Z)

366 DRUNK NOOD!!!!

Posted by: Max Power at October 22, 2024 01:12 PM (q177U)

367

Noodikins

Posted by: Soothie at October 22, 2024 01:12 PM (CWTYV)

368 Round Up the new DDT ?

take a glance at the mommy bloggers on social media and you'll see it causes everything from autism to wifi dead spots

Posted by: brak at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (NGHTx)

369 Nood

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (oaoUQ)

370
You can acquire 30% acetic acid vinegar (that last word is redundant, but folks these days are chemicalogically ignorant)

_________

They're not quite redundant. Vinegar is acetic acid from pyroligenous sources and is more dilute. Glacial acetic acid is catalytically made from methanol and carbon monoxide. It contains only about 5% water. But by law you can't dilute it to make vinegar.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (EsZUh)

371 Howdy Ace, Horde

Pro abortion folks are awfully zealous about getting rid of those blobs of cells that absolutely aren't human.

* cough *

Posted by: callsign claymore at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (JcnCJ)

372 Just voted in my lil corner of Tarrant County here in Tejas. It was really busy. Busier than I’ve ever seen it.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (tgZkr)

373 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 01:11 PM (cV2we)

Agree except about NeverTrumpers being stupid. They’re insane or at least not mentally stable.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (D6PGr)

374 Wine grape growers are going broke and are pulling up their vines. It's been bad for years.
Posted by: CaliGirl at October 22, 2024 01:07 PM (oaoUQ)

To be fair it has been trendy to make vanity wine companies on every conceivable plot of land out here so it is natural that a lot of them, on marginal land with poor yields would go fallow when times get harder. Plus lots of states grow wines now.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:14 PM (n7h9X)

375 I Meme Therefore I Am
@ImMeme0

Most of us wish to have neighbors like this lady

https://tinyurl.com/4ervky75

Posted by: redridinghood at October 22, 2024 01:15 PM (NpAcC)

376 Round Up the new DDT ?

take a glance at the mommy bloggers on social media and you'll see it causes everything from autism to wifi dead spots
Posted by: brak at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (NGHTx)

When I go weed my tiny yard I just pull them up by the roots, hoping to hear tiny screams of terror.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:16 PM (n7h9X)

377 ) Hot girls are waiting for you on -- www.Nu21.eu

Posted by: Malena at October 22, 2024 01:17 PM (X/wbi)

378 Andy Ngo @MrAndyNgo
Mocking Kamala Harris’ cackle is a story of America’s racism.

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So just watch it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 22, 2024 01:17 PM (L/fGl)

379 Went to early vote today and never seen this intense level of early voting (in Montgomerty county TX adjacent to the NW side of Harris county). The line was out the door and wrapped around the building. I take that as a good sign.

The guys at the Trump/Vance/Cruz/Lutrell tent said it was an hour and a half wait to vote. I told em, I'll be back later in the week since I'm only 3 minutes down the way. If ity's still backed up in a day or two, I'll wait in line.

They opined that you cant vote R or D, you have to research by candidate because some are not listed by party (school board, judges etc.). I had done that already and we compared notes and we were spot on, 100% aligned.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 22, 2024 01:18 PM (cCxiu)

380 Most of us wish to have neighbors like this lady

https://tinyurl.com/4ervky75
Posted by: redridinghood at October 22, 2024 01:15 PM (NpAcC)

I thought you were gonna show the lady who ran the Trump sign out on the field the other night.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 01:18 PM (wyMQY)

381 I know another attorney besides Patterico who is just livid about the SALT thing. Trump has said he's going to change it back.

Kind of interesting watching really successful people feel the sting of govt tax policy. Like us working class has had to, for decades.

Posted by: PJU at October 22, 2024 01:18 PM (RRCAT)

382 It’s sadly hilarious watching people who would rather people starve rather than giving them GMO food demand mandates for the COVID vax.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (D6PGr)

Disregarding the vaccines, your GMO statement fits right in with some people right here on this blog.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 22, 2024 01:19 PM (g8Ew8)

383 I don't drink... wine.

Posted by: Bela Lugosi at October 22, 2024 01:19 PM (Ybyk2)

384 Is it true?

Woman at McDonald's turns to Trump and says thank you for looking out for ordinary people like me, and he turns and says "you're not ordinary".

People still wonder why I actually like the man. Low bar maybe but the greatest damn leader we've seen in a generation or more.

Posted by: ... at October 22, 2024 01:19 PM (hmOfI)

385 Roe vs. Wade

"the Court formulated a timetable based on the notions of trimester and fetal viability (i.e., the “capability of meaningful life outside the mother’s womb”. During the first trimester of pregnancy, the Court ruled, the state could not intervene in a person’s decision to have an abortion under normal circumstances. During the second trimester the state could regulate abortion procedures to protect the health of pregnant persons, but it could not prohibit abortions altogether.

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It didn't take long for this to be interpreted as 'you can kill the kid unless he has a drivers license'.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:20 PM (n7h9X)

386 This is now Patterico's tenth straight year of supporting Democrats for president and pushing whatever spin is necessary to claim that the far-left position is the "true conservative" position.

Maybe it's time to stop pretending. After ten years of championing Democrats, you ca no longer claim you're "politically homeless" or whatever bullshit you peddle. You have a political home. It's right in the heart of the ultra-progressive, woke authoritarian Democrat Party.

It's a grift.

I don't think any of these people are sincere.

Posted by: Family-Size Bag of Assholes at October 22, 2024 01:21 PM (nVALX)

387 They opined that you cant vote R or D, you have to research by candidate because some are not listed by party (school board, judges etc.). I had done that already and we compared notes and we were spot on, 100% aligned.
Posted by: The Walking Dude at October 22, 2024 01:18 PM (cCxiu)

I just always vote NO for judges.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:21 PM (n7h9X)

388 Round Up the new DDT ?

take a glance at the mommy bloggers on social media and you'll see it causes everything from autism to wifi dead spots
Posted by: brak at October 22, 2024 01:13 PM (NGHTx)

Yup. Roundup is the one of the new leftist evils. It'll kill us all!!

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 22, 2024 01:22 PM (g8Ew8)

389 What is "www.Nu21.eu"? Someone trying to fill in for Mannix?

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 01:23 PM (1bNHn)

390 380 Most of us wish to have neighbors like this lady

https://tinyurl.com/4ervky75
Posted by: redridinghood at October 22, 2024 01:15 PM (NpAcC)

I thought you were gonna show the lady who ran the Trump sign out on the field the other night.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2024 01:18 PM (wyMQY)
_______
I couldn't help thinking of the 70s, when she'd have done it naked. That was a thing back then, for those under 29.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 22, 2024 01:25 PM (1bNHn)

391 I know another attorney besides Patterico who is just livid about the SALT thing. Trump has said he's going to change it back.

Kind of interesting watching really successful people feel the sting of govt tax policy. Like us working class has had to, for decades.
Posted by: PJU at October 22, 2024 01:18 PM (RRCAT)

It is kind of a tell that your lifelong beliefs are for sale for the price of the tax deduction. Especially when Democrats cost you thousands more due to crime, poor policies and racism.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:25 PM (n7h9X)

392 382 Disregarding the vaccines, your GMO statement fits right in with some people right here on this blog.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

There is so much misinformation (in the true sense of the word) out there about food and how it is processed by the body, what we need, secret keys to weight loss, you name it. I think some of it stems from the reality being far less sexy than more complicated alternatives.

Posted by: Piper at October 22, 2024 01:25 PM (p4NUW)

393 I just always vote NO for judges.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:21 PM (n7h9X)

LOL. So do I.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 22, 2024 01:26 PM (g8Ew8)

394 The SALT deduction is, in effect, a subsidy for the size of government in blue states. Capping it was definitely the right move; that's been a GOP goal for a long time. Any Republican in a blue state should be blaming their state and local governments for their tax burden, not the SALT cap.

In the 2030 Census, states with higher tax burdens (such as NY, CA, IL) will see a big loss of House seats to states with lower tax burdens (e.g., TX, FL, TN, NC, SC). Hopefully, that helps the GOP keep or restore the cap, if it goes away.

Posted by: mikeybates at October 22, 2024 01:27 PM (lOdG7)

395 Is there anyone (and I mean ANYONE) in politics more despicable than J6 Lizard Cheney?

Posted by: Grundsey at October 22, 2024 01:27 PM (3QNq4)

396
Yup. Roundup is the one of the new leftist evils. It'll kill us all!!

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 22, 2024 01:22 PM

You ever see a six foot tall vibrant weed one day, then dying the next? Fortunately, I'm not quite that tall or I'd be concerned.

Wait. Do i have the math right?

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 22, 2024 01:27 PM (MwtZ5)

397 So Liz Cheney was an "AWFL All Along" (tm)

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at October 22, 2024 01:29 PM (LPS7w)

398 It didn't take long for this to be interpreted as 'you can kill the kid unless he has a drivers license'.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:20 PM (n7h9X)

The first fender-bender though and my insurance goes up........

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 22, 2024 01:29 PM (g8Ew8)

399 But there will be recriminations that the white male patriarchy didn't set her up for success.
===
If you ever had toddlers, you recognize the negotiation strategy tantrum, blame shifting and situational amnesia. You can't expect reasonable negotiations from toddlers. That's not the game they are playing.
Posted by: It explains it neatly at October 22, 2024 01:04 PM (B23BQ)

Problem for her is that she is so terrible a public speaker that she can do nothing to parlay that into continued power post defeat.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 22, 2024 01:30 PM (n7h9X)

400 382 It’s sadly hilarious watching people who would rather people starve rather than giving them GMO food demand mandates for the COVID vax.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 22, 2024 12:52 PM (D6PGr)

Disregarding the vaccines, your GMO statement fits right in with some people right here on this blog.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 22, 2024 01:19 PM (g8Ew

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You're thinking of "seed oils" aren't you.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO, AI Expert at October 22, 2024 01:31 PM (LPS7w)

401 I think it has been about 10 years since I dropped Patterico. At the time, he was going all in on some of the Ron Paul gold standard nonsense and I tried to caution him about going the full anarchist. That he is finding a home with the Democrats is hardly unexpected.

Posted by: Sam at October 22, 2024 01:40 PM (7jMef)

402 Oldcat

My attorney friend was always a Dem but did not hate Trump, but he did after SALT. I wonder if he will vote for Trump now that he said he would reverse it.

Posted by: PJU at October 22, 2024 01:41 PM (RRCAT)

403 How bad is the Kamala campaign? If reports are to be believed, her campaign is heavily staffed with 20 something year old know nothings.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 22, 2024 12:59 PM (tT6L1)

apparently it is "Rule by Rube" then. The only remaining members are dyed in the wool idiots who think the tactics are the strategy and the claimed political orthodoxy is confused for actual goals.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2024 01:41 PM (D7oie)

404 There's a doc who does a radio show here in DC who advises against drinking wines from California because they spray the vineyards with Roundup.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 22, 2024 12:49 PM (v6JzV)

You do not spray roundup in vineyards because it kills grapes faster than it kills weeds. Grapes are very sensitive to it, and even vapors from evaporation on a hot day will crinkle the leaves

Posted by: Kindltot at October 22, 2024 01:43 PM (D7oie)

405 I don't know about GMO foods but Norman Borlaug is one of mankinds greatest heros.

Posted by: free tibet with purchase of equal or greater value tibet at October 22, 2024 02:02 PM (iNp3L)

406 I'm fed up with Royalists like Kamala Harris

Britain .. Britain .. Britain

Posted by: SMOD at October 22, 2024 03:15 PM (RHGPo)

407 Patrick used to be a thoughtful guy, with a squish attitude. Now he's an outright fraud.

I lost all respect for him when he got pissed off by losing the adbuys that were offered by PJM, and he pretending that it was a sound contract, and how DARE Simon trim the fat, by removing the dedicated ad buys for the lesser participants in the PJM group.

Same goes for Protein.

"Where is my money!!!!! I hate you, you fraud! How dare you run a business.!!!"

Not to mention Patrick is STILL a DA in LA. How does he thread that needle as a "conservative?" Maybe by hating trump with every shred of his being.

He had some good shit. . .In 2006 when you interviewed him, but he's a pussy opportunistic Squish.

Jeff/Protein, thinks that his analytic english is worth multi-6 figures a year for putting up one consequential post every 6 months.

I'm Wickedpinto and retired, and I still deliver the shit every 3 months.

Eat a dick money and clout chasing cunts.

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