The Death Of Yahya Sinwar And The Prospects For Peace

Short answer...There are no realistic paths to peace.

A series of very difficult decisions lies ahead for Israel. Any rational understanding of the Arab/Muslim world yields a basic truth; they respect and fear power, and they have contempt for weakness and vacillation. The events of the last 30 years since the Oslo Accords has been depressing series of Israeli military successes that were immediately undermined by the willful ignorance of the Arab psyche on the part of the Israeli political class. The assumption that terrorist groups can be moderated by giving them political power and the cachet of a seat at the United Nations is arrant stupidity. The world's record on reformation of terrorists is not impressive. And when one adds the rabid hatred of Jews and Israel being inculcated into every Gazan and West Bank Arab from infancy, and the prospects for a benign Jeffersonian democracy on the shores of the Jordan River and the Mediterranean become murky at best.

And let us not forget the stalking horse of a Shia Arab Caliphate being vigorously promoted by Iran...without a doubt the world's foremost supporter of terrorism and Muslim intransigence. Iran is the head of the snake, and until the Mullahs are deposed from within by the people of Iran, or from without by the aggressive application of military power, the idea that the groups aligned against Israel will accept a peace -- cold or warm -- is a silly and naive talking point of the chattering classes.

Gaza must be taught that Israel is bigger, stronger, more technologically sophisticated, and will never stop until its borders and people are safe. That means an ongoing war against every bit of the Hamas insanity that remains. The death of Sinwar is a welcome victory, but he was not the creator of the death cult that consumes Gaza, and his demise will not end it. Gaza needs to learn to fear Israel more than it fears Hamas and its controllers in Tehran. They need to be beaten, and to see nothing on the horizon except misery until they give up the dream of the destruction of the state of Israel.

The situation in Lebanon is even more insane. There is an Iranian proxy army on the border of Israel, in direct contravention of the dictates of the United Nations. I know how shocking that is...that the UN was not only incapable of enforcing a simple requirement, but that they, at best, turned a blind eye to the rapid militarization of South Lebanon and, at worst, supported it!

Israel will have to push Hezbollah back beyond the Litani River, and create a demilitarized zone. That means the destruction of large swaths of Lebanon and the displacement of many people, some of whom are willing participants and some of whom are innocents.

But that is war. Innocents suffer...probably more than the armies. But it is an existential problem for Israel, and with an aggressive offensive against its enemies and a shift from accommodation to destruction, Israel can fight its last war for a very long time. But that means pushing back against the current stupidity amongst the political elites of the West that the genocidal behavior of Iran Hezbollah, the PLO/PA, and Hamas can be moderated.

It can't be. The negotiation would have to include the numbers of dead Israelis that are acceptable. The Israeli psyche seems to have changed...no longer will they accept some low level of genocidal behavior on their borders and in their cities and preschools and bus stops and supermarkets. That means war, but for once a war with a defined goal...the safety of Israel and the security of a secure border.

The strangest thing about the conspicuous lack of support for Israel's new-found focus is that the destruction of Hamas, Hezbollah and, ultimately, Iran will have profound salutary effects on the West. Yet the bien pensants in the capitals of Europe and, sadly, America have made their own calculations about an acceptable number of deaths of their citizens, and more chilling, the citizens of Israel.

They are good at that...sacrificing their own people on the altar of post-modern guilt and cultural ambiguity. But they are also sacrificing others...Israelis, and lots and lots of Gazans and Lebanese!

It seems as though Israel has had enough of that. Hopefully in the coming months the people of Gaza and Lebanon and Iran will also!

Posted by: CBD at 11:55 AM

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1 Slipped in early

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 11:57 AM (fwDg9)

2 Dutifully called as always

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 11:58 AM (fwDg9)

3 At this point I am wondering if Israel can hold out until a government change here or more horrible though no government change and the Cultural Marxists take over.

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 12:02 PM (fwDg9)

4 You can lead a commenter to a thread but you can't make them comment

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 12:02 PM (fwDg9)

5

This time my Acme sooper weapon will kill that pesky joo!

Posted by: Palestinian SuperGenius at October 20, 2024 12:03 PM (536wQ)

6 Israel is dependent on the US for some munitions. Word is that Biden will cut them off after the election no matter who wins.
Biden is also making deals with Iran and leaking Israeli intelligence.

Not sure what to pray for at this point.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2024 12:06 PM (+qdHL)

7 War crimes tribunal that the commies dread

Posted by: See? Nobody cares at October 20, 2024 12:06 PM (QSrLX)

8
Posted 38 minutes ago on Twitter so probably from a last night Elon Musk event in Pennsylvania and definitely on topic:

https://is.gd/fiDJ3F

/ 1:36 seconds

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 12:08 PM (MwtZ5)

9 Required comment...

Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2024 12:09 PM (Q4IgG)

10 Let's talk Biblical Signs.
(Begin signs and portents) There is a message in current events. As soon as the Jews(Israel) went on a serious offensive - destroyed Hezbollah leadership, terminated Nasrallah, continued destroying hamas in Rafah, Sinwar was sent to them to destroy. So, destroy your enemies Israel, the Lord is with you when you pick up a sword to defend what is given to you.
(End signs and portents).

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:10 PM (V13WU)

11 The Israelis have strong ethical guard-rails with a state of the art medical research industry. Too bad the genetics are so close for Israelis and Arabs.

Maybe the US Pharma industry can come up with another Vaccine; for Hamas, Hezbullshita, Yemen, and Iran.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:10 PM (u82oZ)

12 If Israel pushes Hez back of the Litani, it's going to have to occupy that demilitarized zone indefinitely.

Same with Gaza along the Egypt/Gaza border. Indefinite occupation.

We'll see if the Israeli public has a willingness to do that. The pro-victory Israeli majority seems very slim, even now. Leaving an occupation army in heretofore unoccupied areas will be a severe test for Israel. This looks like a marathon, not a sprint.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2024 12:11 PM (NLIak)

13 How do you make peace with a group of people whose only goal on life is to kill you? It’s like a gazelle making peace with a lion. Ain’t happening. Ever.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 20, 2024 12:13 PM (D5lHu)

14 10 Let's talk Biblical Signs.
Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:10 PM (V13WU)

New or Old testament?

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2024 12:13 PM (+qdHL)

15 Peace in the middle east would require a rewiring of the moslem brain i don't see that happening.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm Phone at October 20, 2024 12:13 PM (p61kr)

16 War crimes tribunal that the commies dread
Posted by: See? Nobody cares

There is no guilty conscience among the commies. These are survivors of purity and power games that are quite brutal.

I say keep moving the Gaza parasites from one safe zone to another, destroying all infrastructure uncovered. Make them go back to Bedouin tents in a ruined landscape as luxury.

And kill all Hamas members stealing food supplies.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:14 PM (u82oZ)

17 Yet the bien pensants in the capitals of Europe and, sadly, America have made their own calculations about an acceptable number of deaths of their citizens, and more chilling, the citizens of Israel.

Perhaps we could send Martha Raddatz over to instruct them on what is an acceptable number of Israeli civilian deaths.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)

18 mnw

Good point.

Hmmm, we have a lot of superfund sites, and plenty of above ground nuclear waste in the US. Export it to Gaza and Southern Lebanon. Win, win, except for the lame greens.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:16 PM (u82oZ)

19 Didja see this?

Jon Levine@LevineJonathan
NEW from me
A protestor interrupted Kamala Harris in Milwaukee and falsely accused Israel of committing genocide.
After he was thrown out, Harris told the crowd:
“Listen, what he’s talking about, it’s real. It’s real. That’s not the subject that I came to discuss today, but it’s real and I respect his voice”

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Particularly revealing juxtaposed against her recent outburst that two Christians were in the wrong meeting.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 12:17 PM (L/fGl)

20 Peace in the middle east would require a rewiring of the moslem brain i don't see that happening.
Posted by: Beckoningchasm Phone at October 20, 2024 12:13 PM (p61kr)

There has to be a major muzzie reformation or a massive kill-off to reach any kind of true peace for Israel (and the rest of the world).

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 20, 2024 12:17 PM (g8Ew8)

21 I saw a Billboard on I45 North just south of Dallas:

HATERS GET REAL; JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE...VOTE TRUMP!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 12:17 PM (lh3rU)

22 Hi, Salty

Always a pleasure.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2024 12:17 PM (NLIak)

23 Beckoningchasm Phone

Leave them behind. Advance into the future of civilization, but with advanced defenses against barbarians.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:17 PM (u82oZ)

24 Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)

They are perfectly happy to fight to the last Israeli.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 12:17 PM (lh3rU)

25 God will sort them all out, including those fucking Russians and whacked-out Ukrainians.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 20, 2024 12:18 PM (bxmU0)

26 mnw

Likewise!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:18 PM (u82oZ)

27 Perhaps we could send Martha Raddatz over to instruct them on what is an acceptable number of Israeli civilian deaths.

Eh, it was just a handful of Joos.

Posted by: Martha Radish at October 20, 2024 12:18 PM (mH6SG)

28 There is report , an interview with Yazidi woman saved from Gaza slavery, who was first captured by ISIS when she was 9. Then sold around to Syrian, Saudi and who know who else, until she ended up a slave in Gaza. When initially captured, those demons fed the Yazidi women and girls baby meat of murdered Yazidi babies. She said they gave them rice and meat that tasted weird, some women became ill. Then they showed them pictures of decapitated Yazidi babies. One of the women recognized her child in those photos. You wanna make peace with this demonic refuse ?

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:18 PM (V13WU)

29 Peace in the middle east would require a rewiring of the moslem brain i don't see that happening.

Posted by: Beckoningchasm Phone at October 20, 2024 12:13 PM (p61kr)

No rewiring necessary. They understand power and are afraid of it. They will behave as long as they are intimidated. The West has forgotten this.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 12:19 PM (lh3rU)

30 I saw a Billboard on I45 North just south of Dallas:

HATERS GET REAL; JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE...VOTE TRUMP!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 12:17 PM (lh3rU)

hah! that is why Texas is prospering.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:19 PM (V13WU)

31 CBD that just passes off Leftists more

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 12:20 PM (fwDg9)

32 Morning, CBD.

I'm firmly convinced most of the governments of the world think Hitler had the right idea.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 12:20 PM (tT6L1)

33 The UN needs to be tames as well. No "peace-keepers" around Israel, no UN refugee agencies, and no UN HQ in the US.

Stop funding the UN. The bulk of the UN hates us already. Let them hate more. Can't wet an ocean.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:21 PM (u82oZ)

34 Also, there's this.

U.S. Investigating Unauthorized Release of Classified Docs on Israel's Attack Plans

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 12:21 PM (L/fGl)

35 The west lost every war since WWII. Yes, Korea, but it was a stalemate and now Norks are sending 12k troops to Russia to fight in Ukraine. For starters.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:21 PM (V13WU)

36 Anonosaurus Wrecks,

It shows how closely the US monitors the Israeli air bases, electronic order of battle, and all air to surface munitions.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:22 PM (u82oZ)

37 I'm firmly convinced most of the governments of the world think Hitler had the right idea.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 12:20 PM (tT6L1)

Sadly, it's difficult to argue against that point.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 12:23 PM (lh3rU)

38 34 Also, there's this.

U.S. Investigating Unauthorized Release of Classified Docs on Israel's Attack Plans
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 12:21 PM (L/fGl)
Memo to ‘Investigator’:
Go look in the mirror, traitor.

Posted by: Eromero at October 20, 2024 12:23 PM (LHPAg)

39 The UN is a joke. NATO is a joke.

Cut off all of their funding and kick these people out.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 20, 2024 12:23 PM (bxmU0)

40 runner

The NOKs have 30,000 Spetsnaz type troops. I predicted two years ago they would be on the Uke front lines for live-fire training.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:24 PM (u82oZ)

41 HATERS GET REAL; JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE...VOTE TRUMP!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I choose Gal Gadot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 12:24 PM (L/fGl)

42 13 How do you make peace with a group of people whose only goal on life is to kill you? It’s like a gazelle making peace with a lion. Ain’t happening. Ever.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 20, 2024 12:13 PM (D5lHu)

The same way that the US made peace with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2024 12:25 PM (cV2we)

43 I choose Gal Gadot.

Congrats, you are #3424976 in line.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:25 PM (xCA6C)

44 There is plan for post hamas Gaza. Allegedly it will involve some moderate Arab states. We shall see. But hamas and hezbollah need to be annihilated completely. For that , Iranian mullah regime that terrorized the west for the last 45 years, needs to be destroyed. Lebanon will finally have a government. Syria will settle down.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:25 PM (V13WU)

45 Path to peace?
Pave Iran.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 20, 2024 12:26 PM (rll/6)

46 CharlieBrown'sDildo

This means criminals / commies / barbarians have captured the corridors of power around the world.

Not sustainable for a modern civilization.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:26 PM (u82oZ)

47 UN Blue Helmets are notorious for raping and pillaging in areas they're sent to "keep the peace."

And the UN always acts surprised when it turns out an organization they supposedly support turns out to be a terrorist front.

The UN is merely a huge money laundering and graft organization. It's coasting on an undeserved reputation. Sort of like the FBI, if you think about it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 12:26 PM (tT6L1)

48 The NOKs have 30,000 Spetsnaz type troops. I predicted two years ago they would be on the Uke front lines for live-fire training.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:24 PM (u82oZ)

very prescient of you !

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:26 PM (V13WU)

49 Path to peace?
Pave Iran.

The mullahs are on borrowed time and they know it. The Iranian yoots have had a bellyful of them and want them gone. Sooner or later, they will be.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:27 PM (xCA6C)

50 hamas and hezbollah need to be annihilated completely.

GASSSSS THEM

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 20, 2024 12:27 PM (rll/6)

51 GASSSSS THEM
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 20, 2024 12:27 PM (rll/6)

are you making some kind of point ?

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:28 PM (V13WU)

52 The NOKs have 30,000 Spetsnaz type troops. I predicted two years ago they would be on the Uke front lines for live-fire training.

You could completely disrupt their cohesiveness by dropping chocolate bars behind the front line.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:28 PM (xCA6C)

53 "I choose Gal Gadot."

As long as she doesn't start singing John Lennon's "Imagine" like she did in that stupid ad... that (nearly) ruined her for all time for me.

Posted by: PabloD at October 20, 2024 12:28 PM (/zi6l)

54 Well said CBD.

"...they respect and fear power, and they have contempt for weakness and vacillation."

I learned this firsthand in Turkey. Saw it again in other Muslim countries. Go in to a carpet shop and set about buying a carpet. You don't do it like you're at Macy's. You go in, exchange pleasantries, look around, see some examples, and ask about price. Complain about feeding your children, listen to the shop keeper complain about feeding his children. Accept the.offer of.chai (tea). Discuss the weather. Revisit the prices, look at a few more examples. Ask for the better carpets be shown. He'll bring them out. Then, and only then begin the haggling over price.
If you pay the sticker price you are seen as a fool. If you walk in, see one you like and just buy it, you are seen as a bigger fool. Be prepared to take the time to know the ship keeper and negotiate with strength so he sees you not as a fool. They appreciate and recognize strength and savvy.
We in the West are not savvy. We are fools buying shitty carpets from a shop keeper who is laughing at us.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 12:28 PM (W/lyH)

55 >>>I choose Gal Gadot.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame

>It's not that easy, buddy. You're going to have earn your right to choose in an indian leg wrestling tournament.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 20, 2024 12:29 PM (bxmU0)

56 They need to be beaten, and to see nothing on the horizon except misery until they give up the dream of the destruction of the state of Israel.

Sad to say this is also a pipe dream. These Mohammedans are raised from childhood as victims, they revel in victimhood and in the pallets of cash the West sends them, particularly the leaders. Gaza was imagined to be a sea of tents yet we see now it was just like other modern towns and cities.
Three things need to happen after a thorough thrashing by Israel:
1. The financial support of the West needs to end.
2. The arms support from less than savory international players and nations inimical to the West must end.
3. The refugee status of that population needs to end, with neighboring nations' involvement (assimilation?).

Meanwhile the UN interference needs to end.

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'Israele e la pecora nera at October 20, 2024 12:29 PM (qfLjt)

57 21

That's an election-related post, so I construe it as permission to go off topic.

There are two rather startling (imo) polling developments this morning:

1) TIPP has Trump ahead of Harris by +2 points nationally. First time Trump has ever led in a TIPP poll since the DEM convention. EVER. TIPP describes its new weekly poll as a "surprising change in momentum."

In 2020, the WaPo (no less) rated TIPP the most accurate pollster. (Quinnipiac was the worst, if you're curious.)

2) For the first time since she was nominated, RCP has Harris' national lead BELOW 1%, at +.8. THIS is new too.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2024 12:30 PM (NLIak)

58 No rewiring necessary. They understand power and are afraid of it. They will behave as long as they are intimidated. The West has forgotten this.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 12:19 PM (lh3rU)

That’s a big reason why Democracy is a ridiculous form of government for any Arab country. They require authoritarian rule; the only stable governments are military dictatorships, such as Egypt and Algeria, or monarchies such as Saudi and Jordan (and those can get shaky)

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2024 12:30 PM (cV2we)

59 I think there's something of a parallel with the Israeli - Hamas - Hezbollah situation and our own struggles with the radical left. In both cases the actual enemy is right along side us. Close enough.

And the left has indicated they're more than willing to do whatever's necessary to remain in power and make sure we know who's in charge. They've openly discussed censoring us. Canceling us. How to re-educate us. How to pen us up. How to reduce our ability to communicate, move about. How to eliminate us.

The religious aspects aside, the ideology that both the Islamic radicals and the left share is one of "follow or die."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2024 12:30 PM (Q4IgG)

60 Oh just dispense with them. There will be a lot of lachrymose shrieking from Western cunts, but there always is. It doesn't matter. The Arabs of Gaza and West Bank have no value to literally anyone, even themselves. They won't be """missed"'" for more than a few news cycles, and the crybullies of the West have lost the deterrence, moral authority and political will to summon up anything but those endless, annoying tears.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 12:30 PM (7oYYI)

61 We in the West are not savvy. We are fools buying shitty carpets from a shop keeper who is laughing at us.

Or perhaps the fools are the people whose culture involves spending all day on what should be a 5 minute transaction.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:30 PM (xCA6C)

62 The NOKs have 30,000 Spetsnaz type troops. I predicted two years ago they would be on the Uke front lines for live-fire training.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:24 PM (u82oZ)

As I've said here several times, there are absolutely no good guys in the Uke war. And that includes the US.

Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 20, 2024 12:31 PM (g8Ew8)

63 We were on the doorstep of peace under Trump. Multiple peace deals signed, trade expanding between Israel and Muslim countries and Saudi Arabia warming up in the wings. Iran was a non-factor thanks to Trump's sanctions. And Biden purposefully threw it all away because the Obama wing of the Democrat Party along with our permanent government wanted a new Middle East dominated by Iran.

It can still happen but obviously not with Harris. Trump will put Iran back in a box which will crush the proxies and the peace deals can be re-energized. It's not impossible, it just takes will.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 12:31 PM (LkLld)

64 runner

The joke is on the NOKS. Having specially indoctrinated "elite" troops in a more advanced country will radicalize them against their current rulers.

See the fate of the Soviet Red Armies after invading WWII Germany (including POWS), and the Red Army forces in Czechoslovakia in 1968.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:31 PM (u82oZ)

65 Gaza must be taught that Israel is bigger, stronger, more technologically sophisticated, and will never stop until its borders and people are safe.

Most of your excellent rants sentences could be noun-swapped and be re-used.

Gaza -> anybody we've had to shoot at since WWII.
Israel -> USA

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2024 12:32 PM (FhXTo)

66 Dr Pork Chops & Bacons

The current deep state is shaping up to be the final Big, Bad, Boss villain to the rest of the world.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:32 PM (u82oZ)

67 As is usually the case, wait for stone age soldiers learn the world isn't still in the stone age

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 12:33 PM (fwDg9)

68 No rewiring necessary. They understand power and are afraid of it. They will behave as long as they are intimidated. The West has forgotten this.
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This.

Not only in the Middle East, but around the globe, advance troops have dug in and proclaimed territory for Muslim hegemony. Oh, the poor puppies being dismissed from power. See, also, Yazidi (sp), Rohynga (sp), and other groups being 'genocided' away from conquest.

Only eradication works with termites. Call Orkin before your home is destroyed.

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2024 12:33 PM (RxnYx)

69 Sunday special, hot diggity.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 12:33 PM (3+8sI)

70 Operation French Fry has commenced.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 12:34 PM (LkLld)

71 In February 2022, I flew Royal Jordanian airlines to Amman. The flight was fine, the attendants very helpful, the food was good (for airline food). However, one detail struck me: The screen that showed the plane's progress displayed the name of every country in the Middle East - except Israel. The Israeli piece of the Middle East was left nameless. That tells me that even in Jordan, people in positions of authority refuse to accept Israel's existence.

On the other hand, the Jordanians have learned the lesson of Israel's power. They may not accept its existence, but they fear to antagonize it; and for now, that will have to do.

The people in the Middle East think in terms of centuries, and hate in terms of millenia. There will never be a true peace in the Middle East in our lifetime, or the lives of any of our descendants. And if Israel should be destroyed (God forbid), they'll find something else to hate, and to war about. It's who they are. Perhaps the best argument in favor of ending our dependence on fossil fuels, is that it will return the region to the irrelevance that it had before the internal-combustion engine, and that it deserves.

Posted by: Nemo at October 20, 2024 12:35 PM (S6ArX)

72 As is usually the case, wait for stone age soldiers learn the world isn't still in the stone age
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 12:33 PM (fwDg9)

Right!

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:35 PM (V13WU)

73 Insty:
SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON BLASTS NEWS OF US INTEL LEAK OF ISRAEL’S PLANS FOR RETALIATION AGAINST IRAN:

I spoke with my friend Prime Minister @Netanyahu today, and I am happy to report he is safe, in good spirits, and undeterred.

I told him America stands strong with Israel and reiterated our ongoing commitment to help counter Iran and its terrorist proxies.

This is a crucial moment and America must deliver. It is vital that the Biden-Harris Administration stop slow-walking needed weapons to Israel and implement the sanctions on Iran that Congress enacted this spring.

It might be interesting to note that while both Johnson and former President Donald Trump spoke with Netanyahu after the attack, neither President Joe Biden nor Vice President Kamala Harris has done so as of this writing. Neither has released a formal statement nor commented on X/Twitter regarding the attack (or the intel leak).

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:35 PM (xCA6C)

74 "New or Old testament?"

Yes.

Posted by: Ju at October 20, 2024 12:35 PM (aTmM/)

75 The objective of war is to inflict enough pain on your enemies to accept your terms. Proportionality is the opposite of this.

Israel should reduce Gaza and southern Lebanon to what life was like before the modern era - no power, no roads, no irrigation, no technology.

Then the jihadis will have to focus on feeding themselves instead of getting paid by the UN to become terrorists.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 12:35 PM (oZhjI)

76
lol @ these fags

You see these homos?

I thought the german nazis were flaming fags, but these hezballoo and hamas guys are like women.

I cued it up to the part I want you to see:

https://is.gd/F6YywX

(Both of these "leaders" have been taken out, one is Sinwar, I forget the other one's name)

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 12:35 PM (mC9BW)

77 64 Salty

That thought had occurred to me too.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2024 12:36 PM (NLIak)

78 We were on the doorstep of peace under Trump.

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Whatever happens, Trump will never win a Nobel Peace Prize because he’s icky.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 12:36 PM (L/fGl)

79 Meanwhile for Moron entertainment.

https://youtu.be/iNUUqFssqPs?t=103

Wilhelm scream of the year.

Hop off overpass onto SUV roof, grab bad guy thru sunroof, hurl him screaming into an Amsterdam canal.

Other than that it's just an average action flick.

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2024 12:37 PM (FhXTo)

80 The other thing is the fact that some of the Israeli strike plans for Iran were leaked to Iran by Iranian sympathizers in the US government (who have been there since the Obama Administration).

Jack Posobiec correctly observed that had Trump accepted the secret intelligence briefings that were offered to him, the Biden/Harris Administration would have blamed the leaks on Trump.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2024 12:37 PM (uxCna)

81 I can't really care about what happens to the "innocent" civilians that are hiding these terrorists. They clearly support them, even if they aren't actively involved in terrorist acts.

Maybe you make life so hard for these people that a whiff of Hamas or Hezbollah and the villagers come out of with torches and pitchforks to run them out because they don't want to be leveled.

Posted by: Blago at October 20, 2024 12:37 PM (wMRY8)

82 Bibi has pretty darn effective in prosecuting this war. I wonder if the Israeli left still wants to see him in prison? I never fully understood his judicial reform proposals that do roiled Israeli society but they seemed perfectly reasonable to me. The response with thousands protesting in the streets convinced me that Israel probably has its own deep state that are just fine with predations on their own population. I hope they’re not as deeply embedded there….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 20, 2024 12:38 PM (i5Vkf)

83 Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar’s wife reportedly spotted with $32,000 Birkin bag as she went into hiding

https://is.gd/AbyVAz

I'll bet she's more concerned with the bag than her husband's demise.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:38 PM (xCA6C)

84 mnw

*Basso profondo voice*

So let it be written. So let it be done.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:38 PM (u82oZ)

85 Some are calling it the deaths of Yahya Sinwar and other assassins murder, I think of it a uniting martyrs with their virgin brides.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 12:38 PM (3+8sI)

86
1) TIPP has Trump ahead of Harris by +2 points nationally. First time Trump has ever led in a TIPP poll since the DEM convention. EVER. TIPP describes its new weekly poll as a "surprising change in momentum."

Mark Mitchell of Rasmussen has a funny meme about this. Two students in the classroom taking an exam. One is writing down answers the other one is looking at his paper. Rasmussen is the title over the one, TIPP is the student looking at his answers.

Rasmussen has stayed a consistent Trump +2 for about at least six weeks on a 5 day rolling average.

All the pollsters with Harris +6 or even higher was always bullshit gaslighting.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 12:39 PM (MwtZ5)

87 Indefinite occupation.

It's not really ethnic cleansing if they really needed a bath.

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2024 12:39 PM (FhXTo)

88 Or perhaps the fools are the people whose culture involves spending all day on what should be a 5 minute transaction.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:30 PM (xCA6C)

I have often wondered about this very thing. But it's as you say, the culture. It is centuries of living this way. They cannot think like a westerner any more than we can think like they do.
I believe the last time we ripped a culture apart and reshaped it was Japan in 1945, but even that was just the political/military part.
I don't think it is possible today, at not without a lot of pain.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 12:39 PM (W/lyH)

89 Whatever happens, Trump will never win a Nobel Peace Prize because he’s icky.

And I'm sure he's very proud of that fact.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:39 PM (xCA6C)

90 The Pulitzer Prize and the Nobel Peace Prize was so downmarket after very unwise choices.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:40 PM (u82oZ)

91 Anyone who is surprised that the Biden administration leaked intel to Iran has not been watching what's going on in DC.

>>The Biden administration’s now-suspended Iran envoy Robert Malley helped to fund, support, and direct an Iranian intelligence operation designed to influence the United States and allied governments, according to a trove of purloined Iranian government emails.

https://tinyurl.com/387brvc9

Israel is well aware of what has been happening. I'd be surprised if the intel that was leaked was accurate.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 12:40 PM (LkLld)

92 Archimedes

No good deed goes unpunished by the lame left?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:41 PM (u82oZ)

93 The fact that sinwar was delivered to infantry troops and not to some fancy drone operator, is also telling.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:41 PM (V13WU)

94
We haven't won anything, yet.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 12:41 PM (mC9BW)

95 Sure makes it easy for Hamas to use Gazans as human shields when the Gazans don't have guns, and Hamas does, huh? Gazans just get moved around like sheep and then get slaughtered, while Hamas hides among them.

Of course it also makes it easy for Hamas to use Gazans when they let Hamas school their children in hate from kindergarten on, right?

Think about it. Couldn't happen here? Don't bet on it. Just to make sure, don't vote for Democrats.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 20, 2024 12:42 PM (gfztU)

96 >>>Maybe you make life so hard for these people that a whiff of Hamas or Hezbollah and the villagers come out of with torches and pitchforks to run them out because they don't want to be leveled.

Posted by: Blago

>I'm not sure this would happen because this would indicate hope and most likely, the villagers have fled to other areas.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 20, 2024 12:42 PM (bxmU0)

97 83 Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar’s wife reportedly spotted with $32,000 Birkin bag as she went into hiding

https://is.gd/AbyVAz

I'll bet she's more concerned with the bag than her husband's demise.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:38 PM (xCA6C)

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Posted by: Suha Arafat at October 20, 2024 12:42 PM (PiwSw)

98 ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 20, 2024 12:42 PM (OTdqV)

99 runner

Boots on the ground have a power of their own. Drones are still adjuncts to that truth.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:43 PM (u82oZ)

100 Meanwhile our own government of traitors leaks plans to Iran. This should be a Ceaucescu moment.

On another note, is that 32K dollar bag Sinwar’s old lady lugging around used to carry his arm??

Sunday thoughts.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 20, 2024 12:43 PM (Aoykm)

101 Our leaking administration is baked into the plan.
They knew the information would be leaked.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 12:43 PM (3+8sI)

102 vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

Tacitus for the win! 2000 years of truth in winning.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:44 PM (u82oZ)

103 Should Trump win, a major purge of the intelligence agencies needs to happen. Up to and including public hangings if that's what it takes for the rest of them to remember what their duties really are.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 20, 2024 12:44 PM (lXCUP)

104 Or, is it possible for this sloppy administration to leak information accurately?

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 12:44 PM (3+8sI)

105 > I'll bet she's more concerned with the bag than her husband's demise.
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My wife a couple "designer" bags. She'd pretty much do whatever it takes to keep them.

It's like my guns.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2024 12:44 PM (Q4IgG)

106 "New or Old testament?"

Yes.
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How many Christians or Jews remain in Lebanon or anywhere else in the Middle East aside from Israel? How about any 'Muslim' country even when numbers were pretty even?

Posted by: mustbequantum at October 20, 2024 12:46 PM (RxnYx)

107 For those of us of a certain age, we came of age when the ayatollah took American hostages in Tehran… we remember looking at the TV seeing a bunch of fanatics shouting “death to the great Satan” in the streets… we remember yellow ribbons and Ted Koppel’s nightline being born. Iran was the enemy…. How in heaven’s name are there people in the US govt like this Malloy character that have Iran sympathies??? Traitorous

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 20, 2024 12:46 PM (i5Vkf)

108 The Israelis have strong ethical guard-rails with a state of the art medical research industry. Too bad the genetics are so close for Israelis and Arabs.

Maybe the US Pharma industry can come up with another Vaccine; for Hamas, Hezbullshita, Yemen, and Iran.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:10 PM (u82oZ)

I am never happy about calls for genocide.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 20, 2024 12:47 PM (D7oie)

109 we remember yellow ribbons

That crap still makes me grind my teeth. It's foreign policy by emoting.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:48 PM (xCA6C)

110 Just saw an article about a stray dog climbing to the top of the Great Pyramid. Not sure why , but I found that amusing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2024 12:49 PM (jtnun)

111 The pyramids are very close to Cairo not out in the middle of the desert like a lot of people assume

Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 12:49 PM (oZhjI)

112 Just saw an article about a stray dog climbing to the top of the Great Pyramid. Not sure why , but I found that amusing.

He also climbed all the way back down, whereupon he was heard to say "big whoop".

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:50 PM (xCA6C)

113 were leaked to Iran by Iranian sympathizers

One of the US negotiators with Iran has a father who is a senior official in the Iranian nuclear program.

This is just out-and-out treason - there is no way this person should be able to get a security clearance.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2024 12:50 PM (uxCna)

114 Arabs aren’t like the Japanese of WW2. Japan wanted an empire and the US was in the way. They didn’t have a bloodlust to kill every last American. So peace was possible once the war ended.

You could bombard Arabs for the next 10 years drop nukes on them. And they’d still want to kill every Jew on the planet.

They’re like terminator. They will never stop.

Posted by: Settled Science at October 20, 2024 12:50 PM (D5lHu)

115 Kamala has launched an offensive (and I do mean offensive) for Christian (and Jewish?) votes with her Souls To the Polls campaign. This days after removing Christians from her rally and agreeing that the Jews are committing genocide.

https://is.gd/R0ovBK

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 12:50 PM (L/fGl)

116 This is just out-and-out treason - there is no way this person should be able to get ~~a security clearance~~ another breath.

FIFY

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:51 PM (xCA6C)

117 Kindltot

I hear you. But sometimes it is needed. History is full of examples of that truth being misapplied.

Does Western Civilization go under barbarians hordes, without Mars as a refuge? Besides, it should not take too much for the leaders of those countries to get the message.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:51 PM (u82oZ)

118 I am never happy about calls for genocide.

At some point you’re going to realize that they do. Then you have to decide the best way to eradicate a fanatical cult.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 20, 2024 12:51 PM (Aoykm)

119 Anybody familiar with the story of Tamil Tigers ? The infamous terrorist group that rained terror and destruction on the people of Sri Lanka? All right, to make a long story short, Mahinda Rajapaksa adopted a military, scorched earth approach and ended several decades long reign of terrorism. Wiping out Tamil leadership ? Check ! Support base targeting ? Check! Winning hearts and Minds ? Fvck off!

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (V13WU)

120 Archimedes — Tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree 🎶

Tony Orlando and Dawn 😀

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (6RwsA)

121 I'd be surprised if the intel that was leaked was accurate.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 12:40 PM (LkLld)

The data were accurate. Whether the interpretation was accurate is a different question.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (ihpbe)

122 Prior to the rise of Islam the most advanced places in the western world were:

Italy
Egypt
Asia Minor
Greece
Egypt
The Levant

After Muslim conquest every area dropped off that list. Hell Italy is especially instructive. To this day the areas Muslims ruled or raided are less advanced the the Northern/Central parts.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (oZhjI)

123 Awwww - missed the book thread - and I read a book this week......

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (QGaXH)

124 It’s possible that the plans intentionally released by the administration but the number of Hamas /Palestinian sympathizers or anti Israel personnel at the Pentagon points to an individual operation just as much.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (D6PGr)

125 Souls To the Polls

Kamala knows a lot about poles.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (Aoykm)

126 They need to be beaten, and to see nothing on the horizon except misery until they give up the dream of the destruction of the state of Israel.

This.
Total war. The only path to total victory.
Even then there will be no peace, but perhaps an absence of fighting.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 12:53 PM (W/lyH)

127 One of the US negotiators with Iran has a father who is a senior official in the Iranian nuclear program.

Other US negotiators on Iranian issues have perviously worked for the main pro-Iranian government lobbying organization in the United States.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2024 12:53 PM (uxCna)

128 runner

Yes, that and the Peruvian Shinning Path win are examples of what it takes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:53 PM (u82oZ)

129 There are Iranian sympathizers in the State, Defense and IC departments. Openly sympathetic. It's a real problem. For us, not Iran.

Obama let it happen. It could have started earlier, but most of the people already outed as pro-Iran have been around for a while.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2024 12:53 PM (Q4IgG)

130 Mahinda Rajapaksa adopted a military, scorched earth approach and ended several decades long reign of terrorism. Wiping out Tamil leadership ? Check ! Support base targeting ? Check! Winning hearts and Minds ? Fvck off!

I think he read my book

Posted by: Machiavelli at October 20, 2024 12:53 PM (oZhjI)

131 ubi solitudinem faciunt pacem appellant
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

Dessert? Well, it's fall. I'll go with pecan pie with whipped cream. Lots and lots of whipped cream.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 12:54 PM (L/fGl)

132 The ARC of History!

Why the long face, Senator Kerry?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:54 PM (u82oZ)

133 People like to believe that the dark ages were caused by the Church while completely ignoring the constant expansion of Muslim empires by brutal warfare.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2024 12:54 PM (jtnun)

134 Souls To the Polls

The Deadites: I'll swallow your soul

The Kamalites: Souls to the poll

Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 12:54 PM (oZhjI)

135 >>How in heaven’s name are there people in the US govt like this Malloy character that have Iran sympathies??? Traitorous

They helped launch a needless war in Ukraine that has cost somewhere around 1 million lives and a good chunk of US treasure. They sold it to the American people as Putin is Hitler and if you don't support this war of choice for undefined reasons you are a Putin loving traitor. In reality they are the traitors. Ukraine is part of a much bigger game.

The deep state and their partners in the uniparty have goals that are much different than the American people's goals. Detractors of Russia like to say it is a gas station masquerading as a country. Iran has a lot more oil reserves than Russia. It was a dispute over that oil that led to the CIA taking down the elected leader of Iran and installing the Shah years ago so it's kind of silly to say we don't fight over oil.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 12:55 PM (LkLld)

136
Fox News showed the video of malaka harris, 60, telling Jesus to screw at her pathetic satanic rally.

Fox added "allegedly," of course. But at least they showed it and "amplified" the "signal" as they in internet parlance.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 12:55 PM (mC9BW)

137 Souls To the Polls

I'm sure everyone at her campaign HQ was congratulating each other for devising this extremely clever bon mot.

What a bunch of putzes.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:55 PM (xCA6C)

138
Yeah, malaka is now 60.

Did Fake News even mention she's really old, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 12:56 PM (mC9BW)

139 You could bombard Arabs for the next 10 years drop nukes on them. And they’d still want to kill every Jew on the planet.

Reminds me of a cartoon I saw called "The Last Muslim on Earth." He was trying to kill himself with a sword and fighting it off at the same time.

While I agree that the call for genocide is not a good one, ultimately we have to realize that the other side is quite comfortable with it and I don't like the idea of us having to die off just so we win the Moral High Ground.™

Posted by: NR Pax at October 20, 2024 12:56 PM (lXCUP)

140 This days after removing Christians from her rally

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I do wonder how Kamala would have reacted if someone yelled "Hail Satan" at her rally

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 20, 2024 12:56 PM (J5RCE)

141
@nicksortor
🇺🇸 NOW: Patriots are lining the streets of Feasterville, PA to greet President Trump as he arrives to be a fry cook at McDonald’s today

Also from Pennsylvania: Governor Joshua Shapiro is upset with Elon Musk's million dollar lottery for signing a petition.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 12:57 PM (MwtZ5)

142 A article on very evil acts by Muslims in yesterday's American Thinker

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 12:57 PM (fwDg9)

143 You could bombard Arabs for the next 10 years drop nukes on them. And they’d still want to kill every Jew on the planet.

I disagree. Every population is composed primarily of people who value their own skin. Witness the reports of lots of surrenders on the part of Hamas.

They might still hate the Jews, but if they fear them enough, they'll STFU.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:58 PM (xCA6C)

144 sniffybigtoe

Muslim pirates sacked the Roman churches Basilica of St. Paul outside the Walls and the Old St. Peter’s Basilica, also outside the walls of Rome. In 845 A.D.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 12:58 PM (u82oZ)

145 They helped launch a needless war in Ukraine that has cost somewhere around 1 million lives and a good chunk of US treasure.

Ukraine has really dropped off the radar - Zelensky recently claimed that Ukraine would develop nuclear weapons if Ukraine wasn't allowed to join NATO, and could develop the nukes in the matter of months.

Zelensky got slapped down and withdrew his statement, but what was interesting is that hardly anyone noticed the statement.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2024 12:58 PM (uxCna)

146 115 Kamala has launched an offensive (and I do mean offensive) for Christian (and Jewish?) votes with her Souls To the Polls campaign. This days after removing Christians from her rally and agreeing that the Jews are committing genocide.

https://is.gd/R0ovBK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
------------------

They need to amplify/clarify that voice. It's not discernible.

If that voice were clear that clip would be horrific.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 12:59 PM (3+8sI)

147 138
Yeah, malaka is now 60.

Did Fake News even mention she's really old, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 12:56 PM (mC9BW)

Probably don't want to give them the opening to contrast with Donald's age - though it is inarguable that he is a very young 78 - I think?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 20, 2024 12:59 PM (QGaXH)

148 I do wonder how Kamala would have reacted if someone yelled "Hail Satan" at her rally
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion
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I suspect she would have spoke with clarity for the first time in her adult life, saying: "Nancy Pelosi is in the house tonight?"

Posted by: scampydog at October 20, 2024 12:59 PM (41CYW)

149 This is Nevada and if you aren't familiar with him John Ralston is a longtime political reporter in Nevada and knows the state. He's also a Democrat.

@RalstonReports
The early voting blog is updated!

Bottom line: Dems have a small lead, but Rs surely are bullish because lead was much bigger after one day in 2020. Clark firewall is very small, will need to get bigger or Harris in trouble.

Lots of charts, data.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 12:59 PM (LkLld)

150
I'm sure everyone at her campaign HQ was congratulating each other for devising this extremely clever bon mot.

What a bunch of putzes.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:55 PM

No, 'Souls to the Polls' is an old program. The (D) party pays black preachers for each individual they get on the bus... Gus

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 12:59 PM (MwtZ5)

151 They need to amplify/clarify that voice. It's not discernible.

If that voice were clear that clip would be horrific.

Eh. I doubt it would matter to half the country, and the other half is much less likely to vote for her anyway.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:59 PM (xCA6C)

152 Like synchronized swimming.

https://is.gd/cha6Ki

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM (L/fGl)

153 Richard Fernandez, who writes under the name "Wretchard," once wrote a column about how you ensure your enemy is defeated. I can't remember it exactly, and have never been able to find it again, but I believe the answer was:

"You have to kill 30% of the enemy's military age males in battle, and only then will an enemy truly give up."

Examples include the Confederacy and the Germans in WW2.

Israel is going to have to do the same against Hamas, Hezbullah and the Iranians. It may be closer to 50%, since Muslims are congenitally insane from 70 generations of first cousin marriage and progeny therefrom

That's heavy lifting.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM (L0Wwl)

154
Also, one month from today, if pedo biden is still alive, he turns 82.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM (mC9BW)

155 Israel had better get their goals accomplished quickly. If Trump wins I have no doubt the lunatics in the Biden administration will go scorched Earth on their enemies. Israel would be tossed aside and the the Israelis know it

Posted by: Smell the Glove at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM (O8bOp)

156 Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Melania seems very happy with Donald. He admitted that winning her heart was the hardest task in his entire life.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM (u82oZ)

157 Russia could potentially have more oil reserves than Iran. Iran has been pretty much 100% explored, whereas Russia has vast areas that are untouched.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM (jtnun)

158 Smell the Glove

Mossad, release the files on the Deep State!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:01 PM (u82oZ)

159 >>Zelensky got slapped down and withdrew his statement, but what was interesting is that hardly anyone noticed the statement.

The Ukraine flag emojis have gone back into storage and the circus has moved on.

I wonder how many millions sent to Ukraine got laundered back through Act Blue and other means to Democrat politicians?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:01 PM (LkLld)

160 Kamala revealed

https://tinyurl.com/mwwxhy67

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:03 PM (3+8sI)

161 "We are fools buying shitty carpets from a shop keeper who is laughing at us."

Yeah...the DNC went shopping at the DEI outlet and came out with Kamala.

Posted by: Ju at October 20, 2024 01:04 PM (aTmM/)

162 Tehran will fight to the last Gazan.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 20, 2024 01:04 PM (aD39U)

163 🇺🇸 NOW: Patriots are lining the streets of Feasterville, PA to greet President Trump as he arrives to be a fry cook at McDonald’s today

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Old and busted: Big Mac

New and cool: Big Don

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 01:04 PM (L/fGl)

164
Russia could potentially have more oil reserves than Iran. Iran has been pretty much 100% explored, whereas Russia has vast areas that are untouched.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM

How many time zones in Russia? Eleven. You're not going to explore all of that in half a century, or even a century.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM (MwtZ5)

165 Gee, why won't more people get on board with solar?

https://tinyurl.com/2s4dwebx

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM (xCA6C)

166 If the Israelis told the evil American regime their actual plans, they're far dumber than I think they are.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM (7oYYI)

167 JackStraw

Ukraine as a thriving country is gone. They have lost half their population and most of their men. The damage will take a generation to repair, if they work like 1945-1950 Germans.

However the record loss is Paraguay, in the War of the Triple Alliance, which lost 98% of the men in the country.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:06 PM (u82oZ)

168 Siberia...is a cold place.

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 01:07 PM (V13WU)

169
I wonder how many millions sent to Ukraine got laundered back through Act Blue and other means to Democrat politicians?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:01 PM

You read these stories, know that Act Blue's actions are illegal as hell and...

:: crickets ::

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:07 PM (MwtZ5)

170 166 If the Israelis told the evil American regime their actual plans, they're far dumber than I think they are.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM (7oYYI)

Funny if they told them to get ready for a huge amphibious assault.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2024 01:07 PM (cV2we)

171 Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM (MwtZ5)

And a lot of it is really shity, hellscape environments where very few people live. It’s not easy to get a drill rig into those areas.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2024 01:08 PM (jtnun)

172 How many time zones in Russia? Eleven. You're not going to explore all of that in half a century, or even a century.

Russia is a sixth of the Earth's landmass, so unsurprisingly has lots and lots of minerals.

The problem is that it tends to be expensive to get them, given the climatic conditions and general isolation.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2024 01:09 PM (uxCna)

173 147 138
Yeah, malaka is now 60.

Did Fake News even mention she's really old, now?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 12:56 PM (mC9BW)

Probably don't want to give them the opening to contrast with Donald's age - though it is inarguable that he is a very young 78 - I think?
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 20, 2024 12:59 PM (QGaXH)

156 Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Melania seems very happy with Donald. He admitted that winning her heart was the hardest task in his entire life.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:00 PM (u82oZ)

Now I'm corn-fused yet again! Is Malaka a play on Kamala or Melania? ? I thought it was a reference to Kamala. Was I mistaken?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 20, 2024 01:09 PM (QGaXH)

174 Tom Servo

First plan idea would be for the Iranian resident agents to down Quds Force leaders and the security types.

Only after Trump is installed do you do strike package execution

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:09 PM (u82oZ)

175
Gee, why won't more people get on board with solar?

https://tinyurl.com/2s4dwebx

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM

That looks like a tornado went right through the middle of it.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:09 PM (MwtZ5)

176 Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

IDK.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:09 PM (u82oZ)

177 Funny if they told them to get ready for a huge amphibious assault.

==

they even disclosed the name - Operation Bodyguard

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 01:10 PM (V13WU)

178 170 166 If the Israelis told the evil American regime their actual plans, they're far dumber than I think they are.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM (7oYYI)

Funny if they told them to get ready for a huge amphibious assault.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2024 01:07 PM (cV2we)

Or that they've bought a lot of American military equipment from Afghanistan, and are sending forces to pick them up on site.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 20, 2024 01:10 PM (VNX3d)

179 That's an election-related post, so I construe it as permission to go off topic.

There are two rather startling (imo) polling developments this morning:

1) TIPP has Trump ahead of Harris by +2 points nationally. First time Trump has ever led in a TIPP poll since the DEM convention. EVER. TIPP describes its new weekly poll as a "surprising change in momentum."

In 2020, the WaPo (no less) rated TIPP the most accurate pollster. (Quinnipiac was the worst, if you're curious.)

2) For the first time since she was nominated, RCP has Harris' national lead BELOW 1%, at +.8. THIS is new too.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2024 12:30 PM (NLIak)
==
Her lead has been "deteriorating" for weeks. I'm watching Virginia. I think it is legitimately in play.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 20, 2024 01:10 PM (9j0Kf)

180 "You have to kill 30% of the enemy's military age males in battle, and only then will an enemy truly give up."

-
In his book Shrouds of Glory, Winston Groom quotes William Sherman's letter (to either Grant or Lincoln) saying much the same about the young southern gentlemen whom only a few years earlier he had been teaching. I was shocked. (It was a simpler time.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at October 20, 2024 01:11 PM (L/fGl)

181
You read these stories, know that Act Blue's actions are illegal as hell and...

:: crickets ::

Take one of those retirees/teachers that supposedly donated 10s of thousands of dollars to Act Blue and have the IRS look at their finances - you'd pretty quickly establish the money didn't come from them...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 01:11 PM (oZhjI)

182
Why would anyone be confused by "malaka??"

It is quite clear who malaka is.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:11 PM (mC9BW)

183 runner

The Deep State does not know WWII history very well. Heck, they probably only can read texts to encrypted pagers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:11 PM (u82oZ)

184 Soothsayer

I am but a simple rural resident of flyover country. Many things fly over my head.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:12 PM (u82oZ)

185
The president's wife is 56, I think.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:12 PM (mC9BW)

186 >>You read these stories, know that Act Blue's actions are illegal as hell and...

>>:: crickets ::

Frustrating but I can't say I'm surprised the same media that is now basically the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party isn't reporting on it.

I know the AG of Virginia and potentially a couple of other states have opened investigations and one was started in the House in August but they were off for the month of September. Hopefully, if Trump wins and we take Congress the investigations will increase. The amount of money flowing through that criminal scam is game changing and it has to be stopped.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:13 PM (LkLld)

187 Our sources in the Biden administration tell us that the Israelis plan to come ashore at Calais.

Posted by: NYT at October 20, 2024 01:13 PM (2UnvF)

188 NYT
*Snort*

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:14 PM (u82oZ)

189 Right after Oct. 7th, many people thought Bibi Netanyahu was permanently damaged and would not last long. A year later, Netanyahu is stronger than ever and will likely go down as the greatest PM ever in Israeli history.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2024 01:14 PM (cV2we)

190
Take one of those retirees/teachers that supposedly donated 10s of thousands of dollars to Act Blue and have the IRS look at their finances - you'd pretty quickly establish the money didn't come from them...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 01:11 PM

When Kamala takes office she'll sic the IRS on the retiree's to fund her next pet project. Oh, you donated $100,000 and are on Social Security? You must be a drug dealer so we're going to take your home away from you to house migrants.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:15 PM (MwtZ5)

191
btw, all the headlines about fatso lizzo being "skinny" now are, of course, fake news

She's still a huge fat pig...who probably "lost" 30lbs because she took a dump.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:15 PM (mC9BW)

192 I suspect if we came by real information about Israeli ops, it was through our own spies, it wasn't volunteered by Israel, it may not be wholly accurate anyway, and we had to burn an important source of Intel by leaking it, but decided it was worth the price to help our allies in Tehran.

Because you'd have to be suicidal to give Washington, Death Cult real information on purpose.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 01:17 PM (7oYYI)

193 I know the AG of Virginia and potentially a couple of other states have opened investigations and one was started in the House in August but they were off for the month of September. Hopefully, if Trump wins and we take Congress the investigations will increase. The amount of money flowing through that criminal scam is game changing and it has to be stopped.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:13 PM (LkLld)
==
It's almost foreign - WEF types.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 20, 2024 01:18 PM (9j0Kf)

194 CBD, that is the most cogent, well thought out and lucid analysis of the Middle East that I have read in, I don't know how long. For some reason, the people who formulate our foreign policy refuse to take the basic essence of the people they are dealing with, instead projecting their own sensibilities onto a truly foreign peoples, one who doesn't even come from the same century.
You nailed it!

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 20, 2024 01:18 PM (owXCN)

195
I suspect half the Mossad are the equivalent to our cia/deep state.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:18 PM (mC9BW)

196 Our sources in the Biden administration tell us that the Israelis plan to come ashore at Calais.

Posted by: NYT

Clever disinformation. They're actually forming up at the hot gates.

Posted by: WaPo at October 20, 2024 01:19 PM (xCA6C)

197
I looked at the Act Blue contributions in my zip code - a tiny little town - and it numbered in the thousands. All relatively small but multiple small contributions per individual. Why in the hell would anyone write six checks for $5.26 across many months time?

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:21 PM (MwtZ5)

198 If they make Trump wear a hair net I might die laughing.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:21 PM (LkLld)

199 197
I looked at the Act Blue contributions in my zip code - a tiny little town - and it numbered in the thousands. All relatively small but multiple small contributions per individual. Why in the hell would anyone write six checks for $5.26 across many months time?

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:21 PM (MwtZ5)
==
They didn't.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 20, 2024 01:22 PM (9j0Kf)

200 Al Sharpton and Donny Deutsch worry they’ll be imprisoned if Trump is re-elected, put on enemy list

Sure, Jan.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:22 PM (xCA6C)

201 If they make Trump wear a hair net I might die laughing.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:21 PM (LkLld)

LOL.

It better be made of steel filaments to contain the raw power.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 01:23 PM (7oYYI)

202 The bullet missed Trump's skull because it was afraid of the hair

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 01:24 PM (7oYYI)

203 >>It better be made of steel filaments to contain the raw power.

You can't stop the scalp weasel you can only hope to try and contain it.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:25 PM (LkLld)

204 You can't stop the scalp weasel you can only hope to try and contain it.

Word is that they're considering designing a Tokamak exclusively for his hair.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:26 PM (xCA6C)

205 Why would anyone be confused by "malaka??"

It is quite clear who malaka is.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:11 PM (mC9BW)

Sheesh.
Everyone knows these are straights by Malaysia.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:27 PM (W/lyH)

206 If the Iranian people do oust the mullahs, they will simply replace them with more tyrants. I don't think there is a winning scenario for any moslem-majority country.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at October 20, 2024 01:27 PM (CHHv1)

207 For some reason, the people who formulate our foreign policy refuse to take the basic essence of the people they are dealing with, instead projecting their own sensibilities onto a truly foreign peoples, one who doesn't even come from the same century.
You nailed it!

Posted by: Akua Makana at October 20, 2024 01:18 PM (owXCN)

Thank you!

The scary thing is that I wrote nothing particularly clever or perceptive. I think what I wrote is obvious.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 01:27 PM (ihpbe)

208
Ever been in a fancy restaurant where they have framed photographs of celebrities who have eaten there?

I can not imagine going into a McDonald's where they have a framed photograph of a former President working the french frie fryer.

Must be something taught at a Wharton Business School class Trump attended.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:28 PM (MwtZ5)

209 Since Fetterman and Shapiro are both complaining about Elon Musk’s involvement, maybe it is possible to out vote the cheat in PA?

Posted by: EveR at October 20, 2024 01:28 PM (Z/h4+)

210 If the Iranian people do oust the mullahs, they will simply replace them with more tyrants. I don't think there is a winning scenario for any moslem-majority country.

I'm not so sure. Iran was at the forefront of modernizing Muslim countries before the fall of the Shah. Thanks, James Earl.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:29 PM (xCA6C)

211 The scary thing is that I wrote nothing particularly clever or perceptive. I think what I wrote is obvious.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 01:27 PM (ihpbe)

To paraphrase Orwell, in a time of Universal Lies, simple logical thinking is a Revolutionary Act.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2024 01:30 PM (cV2we)

212
LOLLOLOLOL:

Here's chunk yougurt kinda getting it. Listen to his frustration about his candidate malaka:

https://is.gd/lQ6OTq

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:31 PM (mC9BW)

213 Thanks, James Earl.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:29 PM (xCA6C)

History's Greatest Monster.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 20, 2024 01:33 PM (aD39U)

214 EveF maybe

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 01:33 PM (fwDg9)

215 Why in the hell would anyone write six checks for $5.26 across many months time?

Posted by: Civic Classifier
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Dollar cost averaging.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:34 PM (3+8sI)

216 Here's chunk yougurt kinda getting it. Listen to his frustration about his candidate malaka:

Trump is melting ? I think he means Kamala is melting like the witch she is...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2024 01:34 PM (IyPmt)

217
She's "in her 60's," now, you see. Because she's 60. But let's not say she's "60." We'll use "in her sixties," because that makes her sound even older.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:34 PM (mC9BW)

218
Trump is melting ? I think he means Kamala is melting like the witch she is...
Posted by: It's me donna

That's all you got from that? You missed the point, entirely.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:34 PM (mC9BW)

219 Neither here nor there but Danaka Patrick has nice legs

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 01:35 PM (fwDg9)

220 Happy Birthday Kamala.. Go over to the McDonald's where Trump is making fries and I bet he'd give you some free...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2024 01:35 PM (IyPmt)

221 That's all you got from that? You missed the point, entirely.

Posted by: Soothsayer

Don't be rude.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:36 PM (xCA6C)

222
That clip I linked above is So Good.
Ana Kasperian explains the stupid liz cheney endorsement so much better than Chunk.

So good.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:36 PM (mC9BW)

223
I used to work an after school job at a car wash in Feasterville, PA. Across the street and down about 500 feet was a McDonald's.

Gas was about .50 a gallon but if you got 20 gallons the car wash was free. Cheap bastid owner had me working four pumps simultaneously for $1.60 an hour. Weekends after a snowfall? A thousand cars would go through. All wanting gas.

Off my lawn.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:36 PM (MwtZ5)

224 That's all you got from that? You missed the point, entirely.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:34 PM (mC9BW)

I got the point.. The guy should be on suicide watch because he says it's hopeless unless Trump gives up...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2024 01:36 PM (IyPmt)

225 197
I looked at the Act Blue contributions in my zip code - a tiny little town - and it numbered in the thousands. All relatively small but multiple small contributions per individual. Why in the hell would anyone write six checks for $5.26 across many months time?

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:21 PM (MwtZ5)
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Who donates cents to a politician? Maybe that is foreign coin that has been exchanged into USDs?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'Israele e la pecora nera del UN at October 20, 2024 01:37 PM (qfLjt)

226 If the Israelis told the evil American regime their actual plans, they're far dumber than I think they are.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2024 01:05 PM (7oYYI)

Funny if they told them to get ready for a huge amphibious assault.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2024 01:07 PM (cV2we)

Deep in the bowels.of the Agency HQs in Langley, intelligence analysts are pouring over maps trying to determine the location of Mount Itaka.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:37 PM (W/lyH)

227 At the airport. Flight boards in 90 minutes.

*sigh*

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 20, 2024 01:37 PM (V+NcD)

228 Deep in the bowels.of the Agency HQs in Langley, intelligence analysts are pouring over maps trying to determine the location of Mount Itaka.

Climb Mt. Niitaka!

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:38 PM (xCA6C)

229
I got the point.. The guy should be on suicide watch because he says it's hopeless unless Trump gives up...
Posted by: It's me donna

As "It's me donna" would say: I give up.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:38 PM (mC9BW)

230 {{{nurse ratched}}}

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:39 PM (u82oZ)

231 "Trump, speaking later to reporters in Philadelphia, said he had had "a very nice call" with Netanyahu on Saturday.

The Israeli leader had asked his opinion about what to do with Iran, he said. Israel is pondering its military reaction to recent Iranian missile strikes.

"He was asking what I thought. And I just said you do what you have to do," Trump said."

Posted by: runner at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (V13WU)

232 217 She's "in her 60's," now, you see. Because she's 60. But let's not say she's "60." We'll use "in her sixties," because that makes her sound even older.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:34 PM (mC9BW)

Officially (1946-1964), she’s a Boomer, so, “Boomer, in her 60’s” is accurate.

Posted by: EveR at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (Z/h4+)

233
Snipers seen on nearby businesses next to the McDonalds where Trump is working the fries ⚡️

Hopefully * our * snipers.

https://is.gd/8KLzkT

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (MwtZ5)

234 Sheesh.
Everyone knows these are straights by Malaysia.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:27 PM (W/lyH)
---------

For sure the Chinese do. And Thailand said no, you're not digging a canal through our country.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (3+8sI)

235 Flight boards in 90 minutes.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 20, 2024 01:37 PM (V+NcD)

That's what bars are for.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (ihpbe)

236
$5.26 is approximately 100 pesos.

Posted by: Joey Bidet at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (WHSyh)

237 "How many Christians or Jews remain in Lebanon or anywhere else in the Middle East aside from Israel? How about any 'Muslim' country even when numbers were pretty even?"

Not sure what you're asking, but I'll see that, and raise you: Why does any Christian nation give support by way of $$, materials, and troops to any Muslim country? ...why can Muslims come to the US and get into our government halls, like Ilhan O, when the reverse situation in the ME (or Africa?) would result in beheading an "aspiring" or "dreamer" infidel?

We're such suckers.

Posted by: Ju at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (aTmM/)

238 Officially (1946-1964), she’s a Boomer, so, “Boomer, in her 60’s” is accurate.

We'll gladly trade her to the millennials for a future draft consideration.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:41 PM (xCA6C)

239 217
She's "in her 60's," now, you see. Because she's 60. But let's not say she's "60." We'll use "in her sixties," because that makes her sound even older.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:34 PM (mC9BW
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60?
Can one say upper 50s in minority math? Older 50s? Extended 50s?

Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthdsy today, much more important at October 20, 2024 01:41 PM (qfLjt)

240
Officially (1946-1964), she’s a Boomer, so, “Boomer, in her 60’s” is accurate.
Posted by: EveR

Even better!

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:41 PM (mC9BW)

241 Trump fries are the best fries.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:42 PM (3+8sI)

242 Trump fries are the best fries.

Yuuuge and luxurious.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:43 PM (xCA6C)

243 The oh-so-smart Foggy Bottom set (progressives from post-WW2) are thinking in terms of "balance". They think "balance" keeps the world from going to war. They can't think in terms of the old Right and Wrong, just in terms of achieving an anti-WW1 by having the powers "balance" each other. Otherwise we'll have WW1 or WW2 all over again. And they learned the wrong lesson from the Cold War - again, "balance" keeps people from freaking out and nuking someone.

So, with Saudi Arabia pre-eminent on the ME, they must "balance" them with their opponent Iran. And that leads to accepting all kinds of evil. And to under-cutting Israel, as another perceived power center.

It's incredibly stupid. But it's Progressivism.

Posted by: GWB at October 20, 2024 01:43 PM (jbZ3F)

244 Deep in the bowels.of the Agency HQs in Langley, intelligence analysts are pouring over maps trying to determine the location of Mount Itaka.

Climb Mt. Niitaka!
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:38 PM (xCA6C)

Ya know, because I couldn't remember, looked for the specific reference and what google gave me was Itaka.
Sigh...

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:43 PM (W/lyH)

245 Hi nurse!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 01:43 PM (tT6L1)

246
Who donates cents to a politician? Maybe that is foreign coin that has been exchanged into USDs?

Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, l'Israele e la pecora nera del UN at October 20, 2024 01:37 PM

Could be. I saw the contributions in some video where there were multiple contributions of $5.26 by one individual. Then one of $5.27 cents by the same person.

It is a very, very strange algorithm they're using.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:44 PM (MwtZ5)

247 If the Catholic Church had an actual Pope instead of a ProgBot, he could solve it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2024 01:44 PM (IG4Id)

248 205
Sheesh.
Everyone knows these are straights by Malaysia.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:27 PM (W/lyH)
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Straits unless it's a pun.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthdsy today, much more important! at October 20, 2024 01:45 PM (qfLjt)

249 I am optimistic that Iranian culture can improve upon its mutation of Shia Islam. Before the mullahs it wasn't terrible. After the mullahs we will see more secularization and moves to zoroastrianism and Christianity, even to catholicism (never that far from nestorius, historically an oriental saint). Shiism itself might become more sane.

Posted by: Boulder Terlit Hobo at October 20, 2024 01:45 PM (kSSr7)

250 ***And let us not forget the stalking horse of a Shia Arab Caliphate being vigorously promoted by Iran...without a doubt the world's foremost supporter of terrorism ***

and let us reflection on how many have seeped across our Southern border and are now waiting for the moment, the telephone call to go into action.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:45 PM (3+8sI)

251 Flight boards in 90 minutes.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 20, 2024 01:37 PM (V+NcD)

That's what bars are for.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 20, 2024 01:40 PM (ihpbe)
***

Still sunny here but rain by 4.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:46 PM (W/lyH)

252 BTH, nice to see you here.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:46 PM (xCA6C)

253 Yahya Sinwar
How about Ya Ya 'Sisterhood' Sinwar ?

Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthdsy today at October 20, 2024 01:46 PM (qfLjt)

254 Cenk used to be a Republican in the Clinton years.

Posted by: Boulder Terlit Hobo at October 20, 2024 01:47 PM (kSSr7)

255 Straits unless it's a pun.

Either way, it's Dire.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:47 PM (xCA6C)

256
I'm not certain, but it's looking more and more like malaka harris has 0% blackness, 0% Jamaican in her, and only "lived." Her hindu/irish father only "lived" in Jamaica, some are saying.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:47 PM (mC9BW)

257 Straits unless it's a pun.
Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthdsy today, much more important! at October 20, 2024 01:45 PM

Naa.
Malaka was the pun. Fat thumb on the keyboard caused the misspelling.
I give up.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:47 PM (W/lyH)

258 Perhaps we could send Martha Raddatz over to instruct them on what is an acceptable number of Israeli civilian deaths.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)

Give her an UNRWA ID card while you're at it.

Posted by: GWB at October 20, 2024 01:47 PM (jbZ3F)

259
Trump: "I'm going for a job right now at McDonald's, I've wanted to do this all my life, and she didn't do it."

Masterclass troll:

https://is.gd/quXnPM

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 01:48 PM (MwtZ5)

260 214 EveR maybe
Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 01:33 PM

If PDT could beat the cheat and win PA, I think that would be his 270 (with GA). In 2020, I remember Shapiro being adamant PDT would not win PA. I have not heard him say that this year. I’m hoping that’s a good sign.

Posted by: EveR at October 20, 2024 01:49 PM (Z/h4+)

261 Hiya Blake!

Got your emails. You're super sweet. Hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 20, 2024 01:49 PM (hf00v)

262 Why in the hell would anyone write six checks for $5.26 across many months time?

I assume the handler has X dollars coming in a month and Y accounts

So perhaps there is a government grant for $52600 to some NGO. The NGO then funnels that money to an Act Blue handler who has 100 fake donation accounts.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 01:49 PM (oZhjI)

263 "The objective of war is to inflict enough pain on your enemies to accept your terms. Proportionality is the opposite of this."

I see I'm not the only one who reads VDH!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 20, 2024 01:50 PM (MeG8a)

264 Aren't there pix of Harris' dad with a big ol'fro?
Although i tend to agree that Carib and Kenyan immigrants don't get to claim blackness. At least Barky married into it.

Posted by: Boulder Terlit Hobo at October 20, 2024 01:50 PM (kSSr7)

265 Would Trump be putting catsup on his fries? Like his steaks?

Seems like typical MSM fodder they'd spit out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 20, 2024 01:50 PM (Q4IgG)

266 From Insty:

If we want to abolish failure one must perforce abolish success. Then society will move into the sunlit uplands more slowly, but surely at the speed of the slowest ship, a convoy commanded by the right thinking. Success only makes future unfairness inevitable. SpaceX’s technical achievements are unleashing inequity on a cosmic scale. JD Vance openly proclaims, “I believe the destiny of this country is to conquer the stars. Whatever your views of Elon’s politics, this is something that should inspire all of us.” Can Vance hear how evil that sounds? Destiny. Conquer. Could the danger be clearer? SpaceX is extending settler colonialism to the universe, exporting “surfacism” to the new “sacrifice zone.”

Space colonization has been discussed as postcolonial continuation of imperialism and colonialism, calling for decolonization instead of colonization. Critics argue that the present politico-legal regimes and their philosophic grounding, advantage imperialist development of space, that key decisionmakers in space colonization are often wealthy elites affiliated with private corporations...

Who talks like this?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:51 PM (xCA6C)

267 Salty!

Sir. You were missed greatly.

Next year, in Corsicana!

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 20, 2024 01:51 PM (hf00v)

268

He gets two scoops of fries...

Posted by: Joey Bidet at October 20, 2024 01:52 PM (WHSyh)

269 EveR

The smart move for Shapiro, to position Shapiro for 2028, is to sink Kamala in this election.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:52 PM (u82oZ)

270 255 Straits unless it's a pun.

Either way, it's Dire.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:47 PM (xCA6C)
----
Well the Middle East used to have Sultans.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthday today at October 20, 2024 01:52 PM (qfLjt)

271
What, the Irish don't have kinky hair?

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:52 PM (mC9BW)

272 Mario Nawfal@MarioNawfal9h

🇺🇸U.S GOV FORCED SPACEX TO KIDNAP BABY SEALS FOR A COMPLIANCE EXPERIMENT

In the ongoing saga of stupid government regulations...

SpaceX was once forced to “kidnap” a seal and subject it to a strange experiment as part of regulatory compliance.

Concerns over how the sonic booms from Starship launches might affect seals near the Vandenberg site led SpaceX to strap a seal to a board, put headphones on it, and play sonic boom sounds to monitor its distress levels.

The experiment was conducted twice, and the seal reportedly stayed calm during both tests.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:52 PM (3+8sI)

273 nurse ratched

As you wish!

Posted by: NaCly Dog at October 20, 2024 01:52 PM (u82oZ)

274 There is a path to peace.

Victory on the battlefield and deIslamicization of the population.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 20, 2024 01:52 PM (RIvkX)

275 >>If PDT could beat the cheat and win PA, I think that would be his 270 (with GA). In 2020, I remember Shapiro being adamant PDT would not win PA. I have not heard him say that this year. I’m hoping that’s a good sign.

PA Democrat Senator Bob Casey who is in a very tight race himself is now putting out ads saying how well he worked with Trump during his 1st term.

Now that is a very good sign.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:53 PM (LkLld)

276 There is a path to peace.

Victory on the battlefield and deIslamicization of the population.

Ann Coulter was ahead of her time on this.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:53 PM (xCA6C)

277 By the way, there was a huge explosion of dust at the TX MoMe.*

*This is known as a teaser for the gun thread.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 01:53 PM (tT6L1)

278
Candace Owens did a major deep dive into malaka harris' past, and her videos are getting millions of views.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:53 PM (mC9BW)

279 My fantasy dream is on Oct 30 Biden comes out and says 'folks, no joke, I've worked with this woman for 4 years, no joke. I'm voting Trump. No joke'.

Of course he'd probable be hanging by his thumbs in Gitmo if she won anyway.....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 20, 2024 01:54 PM (QGaXH)

280 I am certain, Trump wins Pa the deal is done and he wins.
But will be surprised if race is called before 1am and that means t he chest is on

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 01:54 PM (fwDg9)

281 270
Dire and Malaccan Straits ...
But they claim to have no little faggots ......

Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthday today! at October 20, 2024 01:54 PM (qfLjt)

282 Insty:

McDonald’s branch swears employees to secrecy over Kamala Harris’s employment history.

Why would they do that?

Posted by: Nobody Ever at October 20, 2024 01:54 PM (xCA6C)

283 Thanks, Nurse.

Next year I'll try to stay the course.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 01:55 PM (tT6L1)

284
Hell Italy is especially instructive. To this day the areas Muslims ruled or raided are less advanced the the Northern/Central parts.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 12:52 PM (oZhjI)

_________

Old Tuscan saying: "South of Rome, it's Africa."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2024 01:55 PM (EsZUh)

285 Space colonization has been discussed as postcolonial continuation of imperialism and colonialism, calling for decolonization instead of colonization. Critics argue that the present politico-legal regimes and their philosophic grounding, advantage imperialist development of space, that key decisionmakers in space colonization are often wealthy elites affiliated with private corporations...

Who talks like this?

Posted by: Archimedes
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You've got to stay up late and smoke a lot of dope to come up with that.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:55 PM (3+8sI)

286 The apron is on.

https://tinyurl.com/h54eu9yf

Posted by: JackStraw at October 20, 2024 01:55 PM (LkLld)

287 I see I'm not the only one who reads VDH!
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 20, 2024 01:50 PM (MeG8a)

The Connoisseur of Cruelty.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 20, 2024 01:56 PM (aD39U)

288
lol, so McDonalds is supposedly hiding malaka's alleged "employment" records just like Harvard is hiding obama's school records.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:56 PM (mC9BW)

289 - After reading over 250 comments, I trying to imagine what the likes of Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel and Jeremiah, having done the same, would be saying.
All I can see is them just sadly shaking their heads at being ignored.
Par for the course.

Posted by: TeeJ at October 20, 2024 01:56 PM (/vvA5)

290 You know if Bob Casey wasn't running again I would have forgotten he was one of my Senators, obviously Fetterman is for good or bad out there often

Posted by: Skip at October 20, 2024 01:56 PM (fwDg9)

291 281 270
Dire and Malaccan Straits ...
But they claim to have no little faggots ......
Posted by: Ciampino -
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After you pass through the straits just be sure to head west.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:57 PM (3+8sI)

292 lol, so McDonalds is supposedly hiding malaka's alleged "employment" records just like Harvard is hiding obama's school records.

It should be pretty easy to hide something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2024 01:58 PM (xCA6C)

293 It's a lot easier to keep a secret if the secret doesn't actually exist.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 01:58 PM (tT6L1)

294 248 205
Sheesh.
Everyone knows these are straights by Malaysia.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2024 01:27 PM (W/lyH)
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Straits unless it's a pun.
Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthdsy today, much more important! at October 20, 2024 01:45 PM (qfLjt)

Or Auto-cucumber...?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 20, 2024 01:59 PM (QGaXH)

295 Wow, now that was an interesting horde mind.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at October 20, 2024 01:59 PM (tT6L1)

296 I would love to now how that POS Sinwar got himself in such a pickle that he ended up in Hell. Were the Israelis not expected in that zone? Why was he there? Is it where he was hiding or were they planning some operation against the IDF?
It would be a good novel with a happy ending.

Posted by: Ciampino - It's my birthday at October 20, 2024 02:00 PM (qfLjt)

297 The objective of war is to inflict enough pain on your enemies to accept your terms. Proportionality is the opposite of this.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2024 12:35 PM (oZhjI)

No. Proportionality, properly understood, is when the enemy will surrender (and not simply retranch) if you kill 1,000 of them, stopping at 1,001, and NOT killing 1,000,000 of them. That's all.

Of course, Progressives twist everything, including definitions like that, and screw everything up because of it.

Posted by: GWB at October 20, 2024 02:00 PM (7kiA9)

298 NOOD

Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2024 02:01 PM (IyPmt)

299 250 ***And let us not forget the stalking horse of a Shia Arab Caliphate being vigorously promoted by Iran...without a doubt the world's foremost supporter of terrorism ***

and let us reflection on how many have seeped across our Southern border and are now waiting for the moment, the telephone call to go into action.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 01:45 PM (3+8sI)

Think about how the Japanese military so thoroughly infiltrated the Philippines prior to WWII that when the order came to invade the Philippines fell in a matter of hours/or days?

Could that be happening here? Even on a small scale?

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at October 20, 2024 02:01 PM (QGaXH)

300 Any Iranian who can remember life before the Ayatollahs would have to be about 60 now, i.e., 15 years old in 1979. (I used 15 arbitrarily, as the age at which a person MIGHT have some memory of the Shah.)

Iran has a very young population now. So very few have any memory at all of the good old days.

I'm very skeptical that the theocracy can be overthrown by an internal rebellion. Think of the IRGC as being the Ayatollahs' SS & Gestapo. I suspect it would take a foreign invasion.

Posted by: mnw at October 20, 2024 02:01 PM (NLIak)

301 I read that they didn't know it was him until later when they ID'd the body.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 02:02 PM (3+8sI)

302
'Souls to the Polls' is an old program. The (D) party pays black preachers for each individual they get on the bus... Gus

Soullllllllllll Train

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2024 02:02 PM (63Dwl)

303
lol, so McDonalds is supposedly hiding malaka's alleged "employment" records just like Harvard is hiding obama's school records.

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2024 01:56 PM

Because Kamala wants to hide the details of her life spent in Canada I suspect that *if* she actually worked at McDonald's it was there in Canada. There's a story from Canada she wants buried.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 02:03 PM (MwtZ5)

304 Nood

FWP

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 20, 2024 02:05 PM (l/Urf)

305 Flight boards in 90 minutes.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 20, 2024 01:37 PM

Safe travels, nurse. We roll from the gate momentarily. Catch y'all on the Gun Thread.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2024 02:07 PM (9DhH0)

306 Tried to work up a time line on Kamala; the details aren't straight, sketchy, a little piece here a little piece there. Surmising her time in Montreal, at best, she was a latch key kid, 12 to 17, who looked after her baby sister. Her mother did research and taught at a college.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 20, 2024 02:09 PM (3+8sI)

307 284

Old Tuscan saying: "South of Rome, it's Africa."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 20, 2024 01:55 PM (EsZUh)
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Well, south of Lazio. Heck you can't even understand some of those Southerners ...... Then there Sicilian.

(Lazio is the county with Rome in it)

Posted by: Ciampino - It is my birthday at October 20, 2024 02:11 PM (qfLjt)

308 303

Because Kamala wants to hide the details of her life spent in Canada I suspect that *if* she actually worked at McDonald's it was there in Canada. There's a story from Canada she wants buried.

Posted by: Civic Classifier at October 20, 2024 02:03 PM (MwtZ5)
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Maybe she got fired for incompetence. From MacDonald's - imagine that. As floor sweeper.

Posted by: Ciampino - It is my birthday today at October 20, 2024 02:15 PM (qfLjt)

309 Other US negotiators on Iranian issues have perviously worked for the main pro-Iranian government lobbying organization in the United States.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2024 12:53 PM (uxCna)

Because they have "the needed expertise" in the region. Because, again, Progressivism is less worried about the old Right and Wrong and more about knowledge without ethics or morals. And, therefore, the can't understand incentives.

Posted by: GWB at October 20, 2024 02:21 PM (CeDzA)

310 [If they make Trump wear a hair net I might die laughing.

If they try we're all DOOMED!

GSW FTW.

Posted by: DaveA at October 20, 2024 02:40 PM (FhXTo)

311 Because they have "the needed expertise" in the region. Because, again, Progressivism is less worried about the old Right and Wrong and more about knowledge without ethics or morals. And, therefore, the can't understand incentives.

I have wondered how anyone could possibly think that it would be in the interest of the United States to turn Iran into the regional hegemon, as Obama and Biden are trying to do, and I can't come up with anything.

Therefore, the remaining explanations of our policy are:

1) bribery

2) hating the United States and Western Civilization so much that you want to destroy it

Both seem plausible.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2024 02:57 PM (uxCna)

312 II Chronicles 15 - 20.

Posted by: Beverly at October 20, 2024 02:58 PM (gYdcR)

313 I saw in the newspaper (yes, I still read them) that Pat Taylor, wife of Canadian ambassador Ken Taylor, died the other day, age 95. Her husband was Canadian ambassador to Iran at the time of the hostage crisis. As the risk of their lives, they sheltered six American diplomats who had escaped from the embassy as it was being stormed by the Iranian mob. A great woman, and a great friend of the USA: she'll be missed.

Posted by: Nemo at October 20, 2024 03:56 PM (S6ArX)

314 Lol
iranians am don't arabs
iranians am persians
both am brown though then easily mistaken by a several

Posted by: Paul...who eats his own shit at October 20, 2024 04:14 PM (amzUg)

315 Git Yer Yahyas Out

Posted by: look whats not at October 20, 2024 04:44 PM (nakGR)

316 Ryan Saavedra
@RealSaavedra
@ElonMusk
explains why peace in the Middle East is so difficult to achieve:
"Obviously you cannot have people who, if they want to slaughter everyone in Israel, you got to stop that. Those people either need to be killed or incarcerated, or they will simply try to kill more Israelis. And they want to kill Americans too.

Generally, Israel is referred to as the ‘little Satan' and America, we are the ‘big Satan’. That's what the Ayatollah calls us.

A lot of what's happening there is people are being taught to hate in Gaza from when they’re children, they are taught to hate, and that that's really the thing that that needs to stop for there to be long term peace, hopefully. You just cannot have the kids be taught to hate from the moment they can talk. That's fundamental."

Elon Musk holds 'American Pac' Town Hall event in Folsom, PA (embedded video clip on x)
Oct. 20, 2024
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&/or articles from NY Post, i.e., US News, 'Hamas leaders worth staggering $11B revel in luxury - while Gaza’s people suffer,' By Isabel Vincent and Benjamin Weinthal, Nov. 7, 2023 AND Opinion, Yahya Sinwar’s death is a lesson to the left that war has its consequences, Oct. 19, 2024

Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 20, 2024 04:55 PM (NFX2v)

317 winning is the realistic path to peace

Posted by: azhar at October 20, 2024 08:00 PM (hJ98U)

318 I keep hearing "Yahya Sinwar" as the lyrics of an Outkast song.

Posted by: Joe at October 20, 2024 10:56 PM (+dMIv)

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