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Wednesday Morning Rant
The pre-election safari that stands out so far is from ABC News. No, not that one, the one from Australia. They have launched a special new series that seeks to answer one question, not just about the Interior but about America as a whole. The title of this series? Why, it's absurd of course: "Do Americans hate their democracy? | America, Are You OK?"
The short summary for this episode: "polarization." This episode is framed in a way that probably makes sense to a foreigner: geographically. The news talker stands equidistantly between two nearby congressional districts: Alabama 4 and Georgia 5. These are several hours from each other, but share a region and radically differ politically, with one an overwhelmingly safe Republican seat in Trump country and the other an overwhelmingly safe Democrat seat. You erudite readers can probably already guess. If you said, "I'll bet that AL-4 is heavily rural and that GA-5 is Atlanta," go collect your winnings. In fairness to the report, they do go over this and the Democrat dominance of urban areas. There are other bits of interest in it, as well - like the statistical shift into "safe seats" for many districts, against historical norms where many more districts would "switch parties" between elections. The Democrats party on in Atlanta, sure of dominance and hoping to take Georgia, while lamenting the lack of reasonable discussion in AL-4, where it is sure of defeat. The special segment also touches on a few other American electoral phenomenon - participation rates, "get out the vote," candidate campaigning strategies, the preference for strong partisans by the parties, etc. It's interesting as an outsider's perspective. It also isn't all that good. It's fairly superficial and a bit overproduced. It's also for a foreign audience that likely doesn't know much about American politics, so the superficiality is forgivable. It at least gives a sop to even-handedness and talks to partisans from both parties in each of the strongholds, both "men on the street" and party men and candidates. Superficial as it is and as unlikely as it is to remain ostensibly committed to even superficial "even-handedness" in future episodes (the tease for the next episode is incredulity over suspicions that there may have been election fraud in 2020), it is, as of now, a high water mark for "safari journalism." Australia isn't a free country and its press is nearly as bad as ours, yet even they are better than the inveterate propagandists that populate the domestic press. I can't wait to see the new American safari programs that launch from New York and Los Angeles if Trump wins in November. Should be a hoot.Comments
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Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)
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Yesss!!!
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2024 11:04 AM (v6JzV)
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Monkey!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:04 AM (CIS44)
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Morning.
Posted by: Robert at October 09, 2024 11:05 AM (54cFJ)
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Australia isn't a free country and its press is nearly as bad as ours, yet even they are better than the inveterate propagandists that populate the domestic press.
Challenge accepted! We have not yet begun to suck!
Challenge accepted! We have not yet begun to suck!
Posted by: American MFM at October 09, 2024 11:06 AM (xCA6C)
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Yay!
Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2024 11:06 AM (scDBq)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:06 AM (BkEzK)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle at October 09, 2024 11:07 AM (z6eXM)
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Top 17?!?
Posted by: Grayman27 at October 09, 2024 11:07 AM (pgwxJ)
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Isn't that Rita chick from Sky News out of Aussieland? They seem to do a somewhat fair job.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:08 AM (CIS44)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2024 11:08 AM (v6JzV)
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Something like 95% of Australia's population is urban. They have the same distance from the land American urban dwellers have, and therefore the same lack of understanding.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024 11:08 AM (pohLc)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:08 AM (BkEzK)
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Australians probably enjoy a bit of safari in America. Odds of being killed by something venomous is pretty low.
Posted by: Robert at October 09, 2024 11:09 AM (54cFJ)
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Out here in semi-rural America, I suppose we can think of the cities as "zoos" of a sort, where we can look at those strange animals confined to a cage of their own making, unable to flee to a better place.
Unfortunately, those people tend to control the levers of power in states and wield far too much influence over the lives of people in semi-rural and rural areas.
Unfortunately, those people tend to control the levers of power in states and wield far too much influence over the lives of people in semi-rural and rural areas.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (7fElN)
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Gorillas in the mist.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (DDGz9)
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Isn't that Rita chick from Sky News out of Aussieland? They seem to do a somewhat fair job.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:08 AM (CIS44)
She's kinda cute.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:08 AM (CIS44)
She's kinda cute.
Posted by: Robert at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (54cFJ)
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>>I can't wait to see the new American safari programs that launch from New York and Los Angeles if Trump wins in November. Should be a hoot.
The red counties and states will be portrayed a post-apocalyptic h$llholes with "christofascist" hordes thirsting for progressive blood. . .
The red counties and states will be portrayed a post-apocalyptic h$llholes with "christofascist" hordes thirsting for progressive blood. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (scDBq)
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I'm rereading Robert Ruark's Something of Value, about Kenya around the time of the Mau Mau uprising. The lead character is a well-to-do farmer's son who, for a time in his twenties, is a white hunter. It's a tough life, and you'd better love it.
Somehow I can't picture American or Aussie journalists *really* venturing out into the bush like that, with wild Trump supporters everywhere. They'd be more like the white hunter's clients, who hole up in the local hotel as long as they can before venturing out to hunt lion or elephant.
Somehow I can't picture American or Aussie journalists *really* venturing out into the bush like that, with wild Trump supporters everywhere. They'd be more like the white hunter's clients, who hole up in the local hotel as long as they can before venturing out to hunt lion or elephant.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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"With COVID in the rearview mirror and Trump back on the ticket, the anthropologists are back out in the bush."
Where are the cannibals when you need them?
Where are the cannibals when you need them?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (BkEzK)
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>>Australians probably enjoy a bit of safari in America. Odds of being killed by something venomous is pretty low.
Chance of sudden onset 'lead poisoning' much higher. . .
Chance of sudden onset 'lead poisoning' much higher. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2024 11:11 AM (scDBq)
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I can't wait to see the new American safari programs that launch from New York and Los Angeles if Trump wins in November. Should be a hoot.
The red counties and states will be portrayed a post-apocalyptic h$llholes with "christofascist" hordes thirsting for progressive blood. . .
It'll be the Australian revenge for the Mad Max movies.
The red counties and states will be portrayed a post-apocalyptic h$llholes with "christofascist" hordes thirsting for progressive blood. . .
It'll be the Australian revenge for the Mad Max movies.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:11 AM (xCA6C)
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Ah yes I remember the conservatives in the mist trend. We mustn't forget the guy whose country bumpkin cousin was terrified by sandwiches with Italian names.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:12 AM (FfSAJ)
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It can be lunch time
Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2024 11:12 AM (aLqfu)
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As I recall, only Salena Zito seemed to cared to cover the interior of the U.S.
2016's results didn't surprise her.
No one took any lessons.
2016's results didn't surprise her.
No one took any lessons.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:12 AM (KbCG3)
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I wonder how I’d answer a question about me from a ‘journalist’? Without telling them how much us regular people know about them?
Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2024 11:12 AM (LHPAg)
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This post is useless without pictures of Margot Robbie.
Posted by: spindrift at October 09, 2024 11:12 AM (OguvZ)
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Chance of sudden onset 'lead poisoning' much higher. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at
Fun Fact: There are more fire arms in Aussieland than before the mandatory buyback
Posted by: Lizzy at
Fun Fact: There are more fire arms in Aussieland than before the mandatory buyback
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:12 AM (CIS44)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 09, 2024 11:12 AM (L/fGl)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 11:13 AM (yU0dr)
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I don't really suppose you can make an honest discussion on this topic without heavily accounting for the sheer brokenness of the Uniparty system. AL-4 belongs to the Generals, GA-5 belongs to the Globetrotters, that's just the way it is until it's decided that it isn't, and what the livestock have to say about it makes no difference to the state of affairs in any way, shape, or form.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 09, 2024 11:13 AM (DDGz9)
Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2024 11:14 AM (scDBq)
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I wonder how I’d answer a question about me from a ‘journalist’?
__________
No sensible person talks to a "journalist". They should be regarded the same as we might a disgusting mess left on the sidewalk.
I wonder how I’d answer a question about me from a ‘journalist’?
__________
No sensible person talks to a "journalist". They should be regarded the same as we might a disgusting mess left on the sidewalk.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:14 AM (BkEzK)
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Posted by: canvassed at October 09, 2024 11:14 AM (730mU)
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Unfortunately, those people tend to control the levers of power in states and wield far too much influence over the lives of people in semi-rural and rural areas.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Their tribal status depends on, at a minimum, not associating with Others, while simultaneously attempting to dominate Others.
Unfortunately, those people tend to control the levers of power in states and wield far too much influence over the lives of people in semi-rural and rural areas.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Their tribal status depends on, at a minimum, not associating with Others, while simultaneously attempting to dominate Others.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 11:15 AM (Fb3Ba)
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Salena Zito seems to be a regular on Hugh Hewitt's You Tube. I've been watching it every time she's on.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 09, 2024 11:15 AM (gfViB)
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2 Something like 95% of Australia's population is urban. They have the same distance from the land American urban dwellers have, and therefore the same lack of understanding.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024
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The continent is about the same size in length and breadth as the contiguous 48 states. So Sydney on the east coast is about as far in miles from Perth (on the west) as Raleigh, NC, is from LA. The real difference, I guess, is that most of their habitable and growing land is nearer the coasts; they have the Outback occupying a big portion of the interior, whereas our deserts are less sprawling.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024
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The continent is about the same size in length and breadth as the contiguous 48 states. So Sydney on the east coast is about as far in miles from Perth (on the west) as Raleigh, NC, is from LA. The real difference, I guess, is that most of their habitable and growing land is nearer the coasts; they have the Outback occupying a big portion of the interior, whereas our deserts are less sprawling.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 11:15 AM (J2vNu)
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If my side loses, democracy is broken.
- the left
- the left
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:16 AM (Ktoks)
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After Borat and decades of "The Daily Show" why would anyone discuss politics with an unknown journalist?
Posted by: Lizzy at October 09, 2024 11:16 AM (scDBq)
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The pre-election safari that stands out so far is from ABC News. No, not that one, the one from Australia.
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The world is more interested in what's going on in American than half of America. They understand the importance.
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The world is more interested in what's going on in American than half of America. They understand the importance.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 11:16 AM (yU0dr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2024 11:16 AM (63Dwl)
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12 Something like 95% of Australia's population is urban. They have the same distance from the land American urban dwellers have, and therefore the same lack of understanding.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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In a world of communications and good transport, cities are simply market towns nowadays and ecommerce is making that irrelevant for goods. That leaves only medical, entertainment venues, and higher education in many urban shitholes along with the corresponding welfare, drugs, and sin industries. Inner city pathologies are getting so bad that even retailers cannot make a buck and both retail employees and customer are at risk from violent criminals.
Can be fixed but a lot of sacred cows will have to be sacrifice probably beginning with outside rule of cities or a conversion to reservation/territorial status if they cannot be fixed due to politics.
DC is a perfect example as under self rule, despite a few bright times when the zeitgeist was reasonable, have descended again into shithole status. Ditto for NYC.
Neither place, as well as most Democratic cities, have governance portrayed in government textbooks--instead they have crooks and loonies running the show.
Posted by: Xipe Totec
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In a world of communications and good transport, cities are simply market towns nowadays and ecommerce is making that irrelevant for goods. That leaves only medical, entertainment venues, and higher education in many urban shitholes along with the corresponding welfare, drugs, and sin industries. Inner city pathologies are getting so bad that even retailers cannot make a buck and both retail employees and customer are at risk from violent criminals.
Can be fixed but a lot of sacred cows will have to be sacrifice probably beginning with outside rule of cities or a conversion to reservation/territorial status if they cannot be fixed due to politics.
DC is a perfect example as under self rule, despite a few bright times when the zeitgeist was reasonable, have descended again into shithole status. Ditto for NYC.
Neither place, as well as most Democratic cities, have governance portrayed in government textbooks--instead they have crooks and loonies running the show.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:16 AM (bt/Nj)
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This post is useless without pictures of Margot Robbie.
Posted by: spindrift at October 09, 2024
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Leave us not forget Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts. And the young Rod Taylor, for the ladies.
Posted by: spindrift at October 09, 2024
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Leave us not forget Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts. And the young Rod Taylor, for the ladies.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 11:16 AM (J2vNu)
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Somehow I can't picture American or Aussie journalists *really* venturing out into the bush like that, with wild Trump supporters everywhere. They'd be more like the white hunter's clients, who hole up in the local hotel as long as they can before venturing out to hunt lion or elephant.
Obligatory: Lileks on Olive Garden
https://tinyurl.com/yt5y75my
Obligatory: Lileks on Olive Garden
https://tinyurl.com/yt5y75my
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:16 AM (xCA6C)
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997teenth!
Posted by: by the guy that always says "997teenth" at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (89Sog)
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I firmly believe this average conservative is better traveled and well read than the average liberal.
I also believe conservative know liberalism better than liberal know conservatism.
I also believe conservative know liberalism better than liberal know conservatism.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (FfSAJ)
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Their tribal status depends on, at a minimum, not associating with Others, while simultaneously attempting to dominate Others.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 11:15 AM (Fb3Ba)
It's a caste system based not on race or wealth, but on one's complete lack of any redeeming human qualities.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 11:15 AM (Fb3Ba)
It's a caste system based not on race or wealth, but on one's complete lack of any redeeming human qualities.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (DDGz9)
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Way way back in the beginning of the Coup D'etat I did think foreign news might not tow the Marxists rhetoric. But while some didn't most seem to be blind to the way we have gone.
Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (aLqfu)
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I feel as if I’m tugging on Superman’s cape, but we have a constitutional republic, not a democracy. The whole premise of the Australian series is misguided.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (ZVgZ4)
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Michigan Athletics statement regarding their assistant coach caught on video threatening University of Washington fans during the game last Saturday:
https://tinyurl.com/mvcyam4s
It's always the other's fault when a member of their football staff or a player acts like a thug.
https://tinyurl.com/mvcyam4s
It's always the other's fault when a member of their football staff or a player acts like a thug.
Posted by: one hour sober at October 09, 2024 11:18 AM (Y1sOo)
Posted by: mayor brandon "30,000 $$$ haircut" conehead at October 09, 2024 11:19 AM (89Sog)
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Ah yes I remember the conservatives in the mist trend. We mustn't forget the guy whose country bumpkin cousin was terrified by sandwiches with Italian names.
IIRC, that was "conservative" NYT columnist David Brooks.
IIRC, that was "conservative" NYT columnist David Brooks.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:19 AM (xCA6C)
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Harris Campaign Says It’s About To Get Nasty
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 09, 2024 10:48 AM
My favorite!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 09, 2024 10:48 AM
My favorite!
Posted by: Willie Brown at October 09, 2024 11:19 AM (4p0Xq)
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No pith helmets?
No pith helmets?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 09, 2024 11:19 AM (xPNeT)
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I wonder how I’d answer a question about me from a ‘journalist’?
__________
No sensible person talks to a "journalist". They should be regarded the same as we might a disgusting mess left on the sidewalk.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:14 AM (BkEzK
Ah, H7, I never talk to then except to whisper ‘I’m in the witness protection program and you probably should not be seen asking me questions.’.
I wonder how I’d answer a question about me from a ‘journalist’?
__________
No sensible person talks to a "journalist". They should be regarded the same as we might a disgusting mess left on the sidewalk.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:14 AM (BkEzK
Ah, H7, I never talk to then except to whisper ‘I’m in the witness protection program and you probably should not be seen asking me questions.’.
Posted by: Eromero at October 09, 2024 11:20 AM (LHPAg)
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It's always the other's fault when a member of their football staff or a player acts like a thug.
Posted by: one hour sober a
Did you see Stallions said he gave Sparty's signals to OSU in 21 to help avoid a 3way tie for the big ten?
Posted by: one hour sober a
Did you see Stallions said he gave Sparty's signals to OSU in 21 to help avoid a 3way tie for the big ten?
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:20 AM (CIS44)
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I also believe conservative know liberalism better than liberal know conservatism.
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Thats why we can find common ground with RFK while the left taint link the Cheneys without an ounce of self awareness or thought as to why a pair of warmongering pigs might be cozying up to them
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Thats why we can find common ground with RFK while the left taint link the Cheneys without an ounce of self awareness or thought as to why a pair of warmongering pigs might be cozying up to them
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 11:20 AM (M7vhK)
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I don't know where the modern day myth that journalists are supposed to be impartial came from. It was never that way in the past and newspapers were very open about where their loyalties lay. While they claim they are impartial it is blindingly obvious that they are not.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 09, 2024 11:20 AM (QNSds)
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The media has no concept of what America really is. None. Zero. And they're not inclined to find out either.
What they are inclined to do is demonize anyone and everyone who isn't in lockstep with the Democrats.
Because Democrats ARE Democracy. Says so right there in the name. Duh.
What they are inclined to do is demonize anyone and everyone who isn't in lockstep with the Democrats.
Because Democrats ARE Democracy. Says so right there in the name. Duh.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 09, 2024 11:21 AM (Q4IgG)
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16 Gorillas in the mist.
speakin' of which, with some anthropologist or primate researcher or something or other touting lab-made diamonds as a way to sequester carbon before it gets into the atmosphere, thus saving the planet. buy! buy more now!
speakin' of which, with some anthropologist or primate researcher or something or other touting lab-made diamonds as a way to sequester carbon before it gets into the atmosphere, thus saving the planet. buy! buy more now!
Posted by: anachronda at October 09, 2024 11:22 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: Doof at October 09, 2024 11:23 AM (RIT1U)
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If you remember, many of us thought Ace had a crush on Lovely Rita Pahti maid, he was linking a lot to her stories.
Posted by: Skip at October 09, 2024 11:23 AM (aLqfu)
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>>Did you see Stallions said he gave Sparty's signals to OSU in 21 to help avoid a 3way tie for the big ten?
Sure, Connor. Sure. lol
Dude's a pathological liar just like he hero, Jim Harbaugh.
Sure, Connor. Sure. lol
Dude's a pathological liar just like he hero, Jim Harbaugh.
Posted by: one hour sober at October 09, 2024 11:23 AM (Y1sOo)
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58 I also believe conservative know liberalism better than liberal know conservatism.
**************
Thats why we can find common ground with RFK while the left taint link the Cheneys without an ounce of self awareness or thought as to why a pair of warmongering pigs might be cozying up to them
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 11:20 AM (M7vhK)
Trump came in and disrupted the republican party and the natural order of things. That was only possible because the base was ready to eschew the status quo.
The dems embrace the established status quo without even a whiff of skepticism. Biden was everything...until they were told he was nothing. Kamala was nothing...until they were told she was everything.
And every step of the way, they nodded their stupid heads and furrowed their brows in a vain attempt to understand.
**************
Thats why we can find common ground with RFK while the left taint link the Cheneys without an ounce of self awareness or thought as to why a pair of warmongering pigs might be cozying up to them
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Yearner for Zooey Deschanel's Bosom and Searcher of Wagshambas at October 09, 2024 11:20 AM (M7vhK)
Trump came in and disrupted the republican party and the natural order of things. That was only possible because the base was ready to eschew the status quo.
The dems embrace the established status quo without even a whiff of skepticism. Biden was everything...until they were told he was nothing. Kamala was nothing...until they were told she was everything.
And every step of the way, they nodded their stupid heads and furrowed their brows in a vain attempt to understand.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:23 AM (KbCG3)
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Good rant as always.
"Australia isn't a free country and its press is nearly as bad as ours, yet even they are better than the inveterate propagandists that populate the domestic press."
They're more than a few bricks short of a load, too. They just haven't hit the New Green deal yet.
>Mining Technology, How long will Australia’s mining exports to China last?
Trade in Australian coal and iron ore has picked up following the end of China’s campaign of economic coercion but issues remain. Alfie Shaw, October 2, 2024
"Australia isn't a free country and its press is nearly as bad as ours, yet even they are better than the inveterate propagandists that populate the domestic press."
They're more than a few bricks short of a load, too. They just haven't hit the New Green deal yet.
>Mining Technology, How long will Australia’s mining exports to China last?
Trade in Australian coal and iron ore has picked up following the end of China’s campaign of economic coercion but issues remain. Alfie Shaw, October 2, 2024
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 09, 2024 11:23 AM (NFX2v)
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and apparently i'm ranting at random again, having totally omitted the phrase indicating that it was an advertisement urging me to save the planet by sequestering carbon in lab-made diamonds.
Posted by: anachronda at October 09, 2024 11:23 AM (sGtp+)
Posted by: one hour sober at October 09, 2024 11:23 AM (Y1sOo)
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The trouble really started when we went from being a country with a majority of rural/small--town population to one with a majority urban/suburban population.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2024 11:24 AM (v6JzV)
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15 Out here in semi-rural America, I suppose we can think of the cities as "zoos" of a sort, where we can look at those strange animals confined to a cage of their own making, unable to flee to a better place.
Unfortunately, those people tend to control the levers of power in states and wield far too much influence over the lives of people in semi-rural and rural areas.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Rapid communications gives the illusion to idiots in statehouses and in Washington that they can run things from their capital cities. They cannot.
Same thing in urban cities--the larger they are in population size--the more dysfunctional they are and are a remnant of a centralization rural to city migration for jobs.
Now the industrial jobs are gone-sent overseas, the local governing systems have collapsed under an alliance of crooks and criminals aka Democrats, and conditions resemble the third world in many places regarding crime, education, lack of jobs, and widespread drug and welfare abuse. Many inner suburbs are now afflicted with such as cities continue to collapse in governance.
Unfortunately, those people tend to control the levers of power in states and wield far too much influence over the lives of people in semi-rural and rural areas.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
Rapid communications gives the illusion to idiots in statehouses and in Washington that they can run things from their capital cities. They cannot.
Same thing in urban cities--the larger they are in population size--the more dysfunctional they are and are a remnant of a centralization rural to city migration for jobs.
Now the industrial jobs are gone-sent overseas, the local governing systems have collapsed under an alliance of crooks and criminals aka Democrats, and conditions resemble the third world in many places regarding crime, education, lack of jobs, and widespread drug and welfare abuse. Many inner suburbs are now afflicted with such as cities continue to collapse in governance.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:24 AM (bt/Nj)
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I also believe conservative know liberalism better than liberal know conservatism.
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We are bombarded by leftist media. We can’t help but understand them.
They never are exposed to anything conservative.
So yeah we are exponentially better informed about them than they are about us.
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We are bombarded by leftist media. We can’t help but understand them.
They never are exposed to anything conservative.
So yeah we are exponentially better informed about them than they are about us.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:24 AM (Ktoks)
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Unfortunately, those people tend to control the levers of power in states and wield far too much influence over the lives of people in semi-rural and rural areas.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (7fElN)
Not giving the states Electoral Colleges was a big mistake. I guess the Founding Fathers didn't anticipate so many Americans becoming urban.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (7fElN)
Not giving the states Electoral Colleges was a big mistake. I guess the Founding Fathers didn't anticipate so many Americans becoming urban.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 09, 2024 11:25 AM (s9EYN)
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The short summary for this episode: "polarization."
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They could have subtitled it: "DogEater's Legacy."
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They could have subtitled it: "DogEater's Legacy."
Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 11:25 AM (sAaGN)
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Why do conservatives become raging lunatic liberals when they move to big cities?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (FfSAJ)
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It's always the other's fault when a member of their football staff or a player acts like a thug.
Posted by: one hour sober
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There's a UM diploma or two in our house
I have family alive because of UM doctors
The Athletic Dept, on the other hand, can be fired into the sun, and the world would be better off.
Posted by: one hour sober
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There's a UM diploma or two in our house
I have family alive because of UM doctors
The Athletic Dept, on the other hand, can be fired into the sun, and the world would be better off.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (Fb3Ba)
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Australia’s “housing crisis” makes our look like nothing. Prices there are insane relative to incomes. There are stories of white collar workers earning good salaries living in trailer parks.
But they have so called free healthcare and guns are banned so life must be great.
But they have so called free healthcare and guns are banned so life must be great.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (Ktoks)
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The Athletic Dept, on the other hand, can be fired into the sun, and the world would be better off.
Posted by: 2009Refugee
They did boo the shit out of Walz, so I guess they can have one positive checkmark on their ledger.
Posted by: 2009Refugee
They did boo the shit out of Walz, so I guess they can have one positive checkmark on their ledger.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (CIS44)
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“ "Do Americans hate their democracy?”
The “Democrat Party” has become a Marxist front group. That’s not hyperbole, it’s demonstrably and provably true. Their actions start with the complete subversion of our electoral process. They are against voter ID, they are for mail-in ballots for everyone, endless voting, counting ballots after the election, counting ballots with no signature, and of course illegal alien voting which is a federal crime. There isn’t a cogent or reasonable argument for any of that. It’s about power. Period. They are trampling the First Amendment to try and control the truth and facts that destroy their fallacies posing as argument. That is along with the Second, Fourth and remainder of our Bill of Rights. They have undermined the Constitution by using Executive fiats and unconstitutional federal agency raw power. They are no deterrent by the constant ruling against that abuse of power. In fact their response is to destroy the courts who put limits on their anarchy. They are already talking about how if they win the House and Trump wins, that they will use Congress to declare him an insurrection’s and overrule the election. They want a coup, not democracy .
The “Democrat Party” has become a Marxist front group. That’s not hyperbole, it’s demonstrably and provably true. Their actions start with the complete subversion of our electoral process. They are against voter ID, they are for mail-in ballots for everyone, endless voting, counting ballots after the election, counting ballots with no signature, and of course illegal alien voting which is a federal crime. There isn’t a cogent or reasonable argument for any of that. It’s about power. Period. They are trampling the First Amendment to try and control the truth and facts that destroy their fallacies posing as argument. That is along with the Second, Fourth and remainder of our Bill of Rights. They have undermined the Constitution by using Executive fiats and unconstitutional federal agency raw power. They are no deterrent by the constant ruling against that abuse of power. In fact their response is to destroy the courts who put limits on their anarchy. They are already talking about how if they win the House and Trump wins, that they will use Congress to declare him an insurrection’s and overrule the election. They want a coup, not democracy .
Posted by: Vengeance at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (0PmHs)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (jbnUc)
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A reasonable argument can be made that the Earth’s atmosphere needs _more_ carbon dioxide not less. The plants are on a starvation diet as is. More CO2 would make for a greener and healthier world. (And a slightly warmer world is better than an ice age - which technically we are still in.)
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (ZVgZ4)
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The trouble really started when we went from being a country with a majority of rural/small--town population to one with a majority urban/suburban population.
I could make the argument that things went to shit when the same people who revolted against England for unjust taxation cheered on an army sent to crush farmers who were protesting what they saw as unjust taxation.
Sam Adams himself said that revolt against a monarchy was laudable, but revolt against a republic deserved death.
I could make the argument that things went to shit when the same people who revolted against England for unjust taxation cheered on an army sent to crush farmers who were protesting what they saw as unjust taxation.
Sam Adams himself said that revolt against a monarchy was laudable, but revolt against a republic deserved death.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (Q0kLU)
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Why do conservatives become raging lunatic liberals when they move to big cities?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (FfSAJ)
I’ve lived in a city all my life. And I’ve been conservative all my life. You can’t generalize like that.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (FfSAJ)
I’ve lived in a city all my life. And I’ve been conservative all my life. You can’t generalize like that.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (Ktoks)
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69 The trouble really started when we went from being a country with a majority of rural/small--town population to one with a majority urban/suburban population.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Jefferson saw this in France when he was US minister there and when he returned came up with the yeoman farmer ideal. Hamilton was a big city guy and saw no problem with urbanization because he really was a fan of Britain's centralized system and aristocracy. Same reason he proposed life terms for senators at the convention as similar to the House of Lords in England.
To keep the masses exercising power in the House of Representatives in their places more or less.
Funny thing is that we have largely done that with our Senate nowadays--turned it into an vile debased aristocratic institution which serves the monied interests and that of the Deep State but not the people.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Jefferson saw this in France when he was US minister there and when he returned came up with the yeoman farmer ideal. Hamilton was a big city guy and saw no problem with urbanization because he really was a fan of Britain's centralized system and aristocracy. Same reason he proposed life terms for senators at the convention as similar to the House of Lords in England.
To keep the masses exercising power in the House of Representatives in their places more or less.
Funny thing is that we have largely done that with our Senate nowadays--turned it into an vile debased aristocratic institution which serves the monied interests and that of the Deep State but not the people.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (bt/Nj)
Posted by: one hour sober at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (Y1sOo)
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19 I'm rereading Robert Ruark's Something of Value, about Kenya around the time of the Mau Mau uprising.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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Loved the books. We were in Uganda during the Mau Mau, very close neighbors to Kenya. I remember as a young boy traveling by train through Kenya and everyone packed sidearms, including the women. The two books do a decent job of depicting life there around that time. A bit superficial however.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 11:10 AM (J2vNu)
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Loved the books. We were in Uganda during the Mau Mau, very close neighbors to Kenya. I remember as a young boy traveling by train through Kenya and everyone packed sidearms, including the women. The two books do a decent job of depicting life there around that time. A bit superficial however.
Posted by: Ciampino - Si Ispettore, I MauMau erano sadici at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (qfLjt)
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To give due credit, Jonah Goldberg picked up on this long before 2016 and dubbed it "Conservatives in the Mist" reporting.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (/y8xj)
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Daktari !!!
(CBS show starring Marshall Thompson as Dr. Marsh Tracy, a veterinarian at the fictional Wameru Study Center for Animal Behavior in East Africa)
(CBS show starring Marshall Thompson as Dr. Marsh Tracy, a veterinarian at the fictional Wameru Study Center for Animal Behavior in East Africa)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (w9Wax)
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Harris thinks taking a tiny sip of beer will show she understands conservatives. Liberals seem to think Timpon is a classic Midwestern.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (FfSAJ)
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For New York City, upstate may as well be Mars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)
That famous (or infamous) New Yorker cover says it all. New Yorkers are the most provincial people on the planet.
For New York City, upstate may as well be Mars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)
That famous (or infamous) New Yorker cover says it all. New Yorkers are the most provincial people on the planet.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (Ktoks)
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For New York City, upstate may as well be Mars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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A Mars that needs to be re-educated about the icky-ness of guns and internal combustion
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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A Mars that needs to be re-educated about the icky-ness of guns and internal combustion
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 11:30 AM (Fb3Ba)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 09, 2024 11:30 AM (J2vNu)
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The trouble really started when we went from being a country with a majority of rural/small--town population to one with a majority urban/suburban population.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2024 11:24 AM (v6JzV)
WWII changed the national demographic. And FDR's Great Depression interventions.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 09, 2024 11:24 AM (v6JzV)
WWII changed the national demographic. And FDR's Great Depression interventions.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:31 AM (g8Ew8)
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WWII changed the national demographic. And FDR's Great Depression interventions.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons a
That dude was too lazy to even stand up.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons a
That dude was too lazy to even stand up.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:31 AM (CIS44)
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Mis-anthropology
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (IG4Id)
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Funny thing is that we have largely done that with our Senate nowadays--turned it into an vile debased aristocratic institution which serves the monied interests and that of the Deep State but not the people.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (bt/Nj)
Minority Leader McConnell is not amused.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (bt/Nj)
Minority Leader McConnell is not amused.
Posted by: Mitch's aide who can read facial expressions and grunts at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (PiwSw)
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That dude was too lazy to even stand up.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:31 AM
Franklin, stand up and be recognized.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:31 AM
Franklin, stand up and be recognized.
Posted by: J Biden at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (4p0Xq)
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Gorillas in the mist.
speakin' of which, with some anthropologist or primate researcher or something or other touting lab-made diamonds as a way to sequester carbon before it gets into the atmosphere, thus saving the planet. buy! buy more now!
I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that the anthropologist / primate researcher has not the foggiest notion of how much energy is required to grow diamond, whether by HTHP press, or chemical vapor deposition. Stick to your knitting, buddy, you're embarrassing yourself.
speakin' of which, with some anthropologist or primate researcher or something or other touting lab-made diamonds as a way to sequester carbon before it gets into the atmosphere, thus saving the planet. buy! buy more now!
I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that the anthropologist / primate researcher has not the foggiest notion of how much energy is required to grow diamond, whether by HTHP press, or chemical vapor deposition. Stick to your knitting, buddy, you're embarrassing yourself.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (xCA6C)
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For New York City, upstate may as well be Mars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)
Populate Upstate New York!
For New York City, upstate may as well be Mars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)
Populate Upstate New York!
Posted by: Elon Musk at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (w9Wax)
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Funny thing is that we have largely done that with our Senate nowadays--turned it into an vile debased aristocratic institution which serves the monied interests and that of the Deep State but not the people.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (bt/Nj)
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House of Lards.
/Could be a new TV series for Kevin Spacey.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (bt/Nj)
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House of Lards.
/Could be a new TV series for Kevin Spacey.
Posted by: ShainS -- Assassination is The Ultimate Form of Censorship at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (dsilq)
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Why do conservatives become raging lunatic liberals when they move to big cities?
1) I'm not sure that large numbers/percentages of them actually do but I could be wrong about that.
2) If so, then maybe they weren't really "conservatives" to begin with but just aping the attitudes around them and still are.
1) I'm not sure that large numbers/percentages of them actually do but I could be wrong about that.
2) If so, then maybe they weren't really "conservatives" to begin with but just aping the attitudes around them and still are.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 09, 2024 11:33 AM (/y8xj)
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87 To give due credit, Jonah Goldberg picked up on this long before 2016 and dubbed it "Conservatives in the Mist" reporting.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (/y8xj)
I'm sure he stole it from someone.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (/y8xj)
I'm sure he stole it from someone.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 09, 2024 11:33 AM (eb5mD)
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I feel as if I’m tugging on Superman’s cape, but we have a constitutional republic, not a democracy. The whole premise of the Australian series is misguided.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (ZVgZ4)
First thing I thought of as well. Words *do* matter.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (ZVgZ4)
First thing I thought of as well. Words *do* matter.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at October 09, 2024 11:33 AM (s9EYN)
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We are NOT a democracy.
That is for those Athenian faggots, godless commies, and Democrats (birm).
We are a constitutional Republic.
That is for those Athenian faggots, godless commies, and Democrats (birm).
We are a constitutional Republic.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 09, 2024 11:34 AM (ufFY8)
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>>>Funny thing is that we have largely done that with our Senate nowadays--turned it into an vile debased aristocratic institution which serves the monied interests and that of the Deep State but not the people.
Posted by: whig
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Oh please. Yes. Let's give senators back to the head's of state, let senators serve at the pleasure of the governor.
Posted by: whig
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Oh please. Yes. Let's give senators back to the head's of state, let senators serve at the pleasure of the governor.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 11:34 AM (yU0dr)
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69 The trouble really started when we went from being a country with a majority of rural/small--town population to one with a majority urban/suburban population.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Also, when other elected officials didn't follow Washington's lead of only serving two terms, and instead, elected office became some kind of life-long entitlement for personal enrichment.
Modern American Cincinnatus wouldn't return to his plow.
Also, the gradual overreach of the Federal government makes every election feel critical. You can't escape by moving to a Red state, because the Federal government impacts daily life so much. The 10th amendment and concept of Federalism is a joke/failure.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
Also, when other elected officials didn't follow Washington's lead of only serving two terms, and instead, elected office became some kind of life-long entitlement for personal enrichment.
Modern American Cincinnatus wouldn't return to his plow.
Also, the gradual overreach of the Federal government makes every election feel critical. You can't escape by moving to a Red state, because the Federal government impacts daily life so much. The 10th amendment and concept of Federalism is a joke/failure.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 11:34 AM (JCZqz)
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The real city folk really don't control anything.
They tolerate an abundance of non-profits with different tax bases than they, as residents, deal with, but then they get stuff - created, short-term social programs; a little $ for schools, etc. - for or from the non-profits and think they're on the winning side.
The political party power and control can be seen if/when the $ dries up for the tiny non-profits, or the large non-profits aren't contributing as they should, and then it's panic. (Think C19 dollars.)
The way for many decades & has created taxpayers with little sense in many cases.
They tolerate an abundance of non-profits with different tax bases than they, as residents, deal with, but then they get stuff - created, short-term social programs; a little $ for schools, etc. - for or from the non-profits and think they're on the winning side.
The political party power and control can be seen if/when the $ dries up for the tiny non-profits, or the large non-profits aren't contributing as they should, and then it's panic. (Think C19 dollars.)
The way for many decades & has created taxpayers with little sense in many cases.
Posted by: L - If they'll do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at October 09, 2024 11:34 AM (NFX2v)
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Yes, Americans hate their democracy, because it's fake and gay. Very few people feel they are being governed with their consent, and they bitterly resent this fraudulent republic.
There ya go. Question answered.
There ya go. Question answered.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 09, 2024 11:34 AM (awTae)
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About 20 years ago I was working onsite at a client in the Bay Area. Got chatting with some of the people there. I mentioned that my friend was getting married later that summer and we were planning a bachelor party. One of the things we had set up was shooting big bad guns at an outdoor range. This was to happen in the Dallas area.
I might as well have said we are going to torture puppies. The reaction was whaaaa? You’re going to shoot guns? For fun? Get me to a fainting couch asap!!!
It was both funny and retarded.
I might as well have said we are going to torture puppies. The reaction was whaaaa? You’re going to shoot guns? For fun? Get me to a fainting couch asap!!!
It was both funny and retarded.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:35 AM (Ktoks)
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"I don't know where the modern day myth that journalists are supposed to be impartial came from."
You get two guesses. You will only need one.
You get two guesses. You will only need one.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (Z8Yh2)
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Fun Fact: There are more fire arms in Aussieland than before the mandatory buyback
Who counted them?
Fun Fact: There are more fire arms in Aussieland than before the mandatory buyback
Who counted them?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (63Dwl)
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Jefferson saw this in France when he was US minister there and when he returned came up with the yeoman farmer ideal. Hamilton was a big city guy and saw no problem with urbanization because he really was a fan of Britain's centralized system and aristocracy. Same reason he proposed life terms for senators at the convention as similar to the House of Lords in England.
To keep the masses exercising power in the House of Representatives in their places more or less.
Funny thing is that we have largely done that with our Senate nowadays--turned it into an vile debased aristocratic institution which serves the monied interests and that of the Deep State but not the people.
Jefferson wanted a country of yeoman farmers, having never done any actual farming himself, but rather relying on slaves to do his work for him. Hamilton understood that a modern economy required manufacturing, and did his best to ensure that we had an industrial base.
Which one is more credible?
To keep the masses exercising power in the House of Representatives in their places more or less.
Funny thing is that we have largely done that with our Senate nowadays--turned it into an vile debased aristocratic institution which serves the monied interests and that of the Deep State but not the people.
Jefferson wanted a country of yeoman farmers, having never done any actual farming himself, but rather relying on slaves to do his work for him. Hamilton understood that a modern economy required manufacturing, and did his best to ensure that we had an industrial base.
Which one is more credible?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (xCA6C)
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Anyone remember after 2010 the foreign cocksuckers loved writing fake news stories about how bad American "gerrymandering" is and the Republicans "use" "gerrymandering" to gain seats?
Because shitheads in UK and Australia were dumbfounded as to how the "stupid" and "unpopular" Republicans are controlling Congress. All they know iabout the USA s what they hear on BBC and Borat movies.
Anyone remember after 2010 the foreign cocksuckers loved writing fake news stories about how bad American "gerrymandering" is and the Republicans "use" "gerrymandering" to gain seats?
Because shitheads in UK and Australia were dumbfounded as to how the "stupid" and "unpopular" Republicans are controlling Congress. All they know iabout the USA s what they hear on BBC and Borat movies.
Posted by: Soothie at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (WWIvN)
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For New York City, upstate may as well be Mars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)
Populate Upstate New York!
Posted by: Elon Musk at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (w9Wax)
Go north of Albany and all you have is severely depressed former mill towns. Used to be lots of paper mills there - all now shuttered. There were a couple of state prisons - Hochul and Cuomo closed them down. There is still farming, but nobody >40 yrs of age is sticking around to work them. You have some tourism especially in the fall - but that isn't enough to survive on.
For New York City, upstate may as well be Mars.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 09, 2024 11:27 AM (BkEzK)
Populate Upstate New York!
Posted by: Elon Musk at October 09, 2024 11:32 AM (w9Wax)
Go north of Albany and all you have is severely depressed former mill towns. Used to be lots of paper mills there - all now shuttered. There were a couple of state prisons - Hochul and Cuomo closed them down. There is still farming, but nobody >40 yrs of age is sticking around to work them. You have some tourism especially in the fall - but that isn't enough to survive on.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (N39Ws)
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Sam Adams himself said that revolt against a monarchy was laudable, but revolt against a republic deserved death.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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A bit romanticized about Daniel Shay's rebellion. Daniel and his group decided to shut the courts down by violence and chase tax agents off the Western part of Mass. The US economy collapsed in many states post War of Independence and so did trade--France did not make for the rich markets for Boston traders that England did. So import and export excises declined. Mass also had great debts based on being one of the financial bedrocks of the Revolution along with VA, NY, and PA and a damaged city of Boston and suburbs to repair.
The collapse in demand due to trade and the Brits leaving left small farmers reeling and agri prices dived at the same time inflation roared up from debased paper currency (federal and state). So, Shays and compatriots were being foreclosed due to not paying taxes.
Nearly seizing Springfield Armory which was federal is where Shays went too far and provoked the state government to raise an army to do what the Feds could not.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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A bit romanticized about Daniel Shay's rebellion. Daniel and his group decided to shut the courts down by violence and chase tax agents off the Western part of Mass. The US economy collapsed in many states post War of Independence and so did trade--France did not make for the rich markets for Boston traders that England did. So import and export excises declined. Mass also had great debts based on being one of the financial bedrocks of the Revolution along with VA, NY, and PA and a damaged city of Boston and suburbs to repair.
The collapse in demand due to trade and the Brits leaving left small farmers reeling and agri prices dived at the same time inflation roared up from debased paper currency (federal and state). So, Shays and compatriots were being foreclosed due to not paying taxes.
Nearly seizing Springfield Armory which was federal is where Shays went too far and provoked the state government to raise an army to do what the Feds could not.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:37 AM (bt/Nj)
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About 20 years ago I was working onsite at a client in the Bay Area. Got chatting with some of the people there. I mentioned that my friend was getting married later that summer and we were planning a bachelor party. One of the things we had set up was shooting big bad guns at an outdoor range. This was to happen in the Dallas area.
I might as well have said we are going to torture puppies. The reaction was whaaaa? You’re going to shoot guns? For fun? Get me to a fainting couch asap!!!
It was both funny and retarded.
Posted by: Settled Science
There is a great scene like this in Mythic Quest when Jo takes Poppy and Rachel out to a shooting range and they are aghast but then they get to smash cars in a tank and are having the time of their lives.
I might as well have said we are going to torture puppies. The reaction was whaaaa? You’re going to shoot guns? For fun? Get me to a fainting couch asap!!!
It was both funny and retarded.
Posted by: Settled Science
There is a great scene like this in Mythic Quest when Jo takes Poppy and Rachel out to a shooting range and they are aghast but then they get to smash cars in a tank and are having the time of their lives.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:37 AM (CIS44)
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103 I feel as if I’m tugging on Superman’s cape, but we have a constitutional republic, not a democracy. The whole premise of the Australian series is misguided.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (ZVgZ4)
First thing I thought of as well. Words *do* matter.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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For the moment, Trump is letting it ride. The 'democracy' meme is so deeply embedded into the body politic that educating them on what we actually are would be counter productive to the election.
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at October 09, 2024 11:17 AM (ZVgZ4)
First thing I thought of as well. Words *do* matter.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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For the moment, Trump is letting it ride. The 'democracy' meme is so deeply embedded into the body politic that educating them on what we actually are would be counter productive to the election.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 11:37 AM (yU0dr)
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Go north of Albany and all you have is severely depressed former mill towns. Used to be lots of paper mills there - all now shuttered. There were a couple of state prisons - Hochul and Cuomo closed them down. There is still farming, but nobody >40 yrs of age is sticking around to work them. You have some tourism especially in the fall - but that isn't enough to survive on.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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Urban areas should be their own little controlled area and have nothing to do with governing the rest of the state. One person, one vote my ass.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
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Urban areas should be their own little controlled area and have nothing to do with governing the rest of the state. One person, one vote my ass.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:37 AM (bt/Nj)
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110 "I don't know where the modern day myth that journalists are supposed to be impartial came from."
You get two guesses. You will only need one.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I love movies that show them as scheming, dishonest assholes.
Ace in the Hole. His Girl Friday. Richard Jewell.
You get two guesses. You will only need one.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (Z8Yh2)
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I love movies that show them as scheming, dishonest assholes.
Ace in the Hole. His Girl Friday. Richard Jewell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
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One of the worst abominations of our Constitution was the 17th Amendment. It incorrectly rewrote Article 1, Section 3 into something it was never intended to be, and what was feared by the Framers. It bowed to the fallacious propaganda put forth by William Hearst, the monied interests and the new aristocracy. It gave a fig leaf to the appearance that direct election would be more democratic. It isn’t and todays senate proves that.
Posted by: Vengeance at October 09, 2024 11:38 AM (0PmHs)
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The polls are all over the place, but there is a trend towards Trump. And when you consider how each campaign is now acting, it is obvious that Trump is in the driver's seat. The more desperate Harris/Constanza get, the more you know Trump is ahead.
I'm also starting to think (hope?) that the Dems are realizing that employing The Big Steal 2.0 in order to get a trainwreck Harris/Costanza Administration installed probably isn't in the party's best long-term interests. They would be better served by going on offense for 4 years and focusing on finding better candidates (Governors) for 2028.
I'm also starting to think (hope?) that the Dems are realizing that employing The Big Steal 2.0 in order to get a trainwreck Harris/Costanza Administration installed probably isn't in the party's best long-term interests. They would be better served by going on offense for 4 years and focusing on finding better candidates (Governors) for 2028.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 09, 2024 11:38 AM (qUkBO)
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I'm sure he stole it from someone.
Maybe but I don't think the general sentiment is completely fair. Before Trump broke his upper east side brain, he was actually a fairly thoughtful political commentator. Hanging out with Podhoretz and Kristol didn't do him any favors.
Maybe but I don't think the general sentiment is completely fair. Before Trump broke his upper east side brain, he was actually a fairly thoughtful political commentator. Hanging out with Podhoretz and Kristol didn't do him any favors.
Posted by: Oddbob at October 09, 2024 11:39 AM (/y8xj)
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Ask your typical fuckface british subject what America is like and they'll tell you we all love the kardashians and we're all fat and we all have guns and we shoot each other all the time. And george bush is from the stupid state of Texas which is filled with stupid people who chew tobacky and talk funny.
Ask your typical fuckface british subject what America is like and they'll tell you we all love the kardashians and we're all fat and we all have guns and we shoot each other all the time. And george bush is from the stupid state of Texas which is filled with stupid people who chew tobacky and talk funny.
Posted by: Soothie at October 09, 2024 11:39 AM (WWIvN)
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And only Republicans gerrymander. The fact Massachusetts is a 65-35 state yet 100% of seats are Democrat is just a weird coincidence. Same with Illinois, look at some districts there. It’s the craziest shapes you’ve ever seen.
But yeah Republicans gerrymander exclusively.
But yeah Republicans gerrymander exclusively.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:39 AM (Ktoks)
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The 10th amendment and concept of Federalism is a joke/failure.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 11:34 AM (JCZqz)
It really hasn't been tried yet. But it's coming. Then we'll see. We're right on that cusp.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 11:34 AM (JCZqz)
It really hasn't been tried yet. But it's coming. Then we'll see. We're right on that cusp.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:39 AM (g8Ew8)
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For the moment, Trump is letting it ride. The 'democracy' meme is so deeply embedded into the body politic that educating them on what we actually are would be counter productive to the election.
Posted by: Braenyard
Yep, and why the inevitable fiscon moping about Social Security is political suicide right now. You can only fix entitlements when you have tapped out all the Corporate loot and special interest legislation benefiting the big political donors.
Foreign military aid is a perfect example. We should be friend of democracies everywhere but not go abroad looking for monsters to slay. JQ Adams once said.
Posted by: Braenyard
Yep, and why the inevitable fiscon moping about Social Security is political suicide right now. You can only fix entitlements when you have tapped out all the Corporate loot and special interest legislation benefiting the big political donors.
Foreign military aid is a perfect example. We should be friend of democracies everywhere but not go abroad looking for monsters to slay. JQ Adams once said.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:39 AM (bt/Nj)
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My favorite is leftists who complain about gerrymandering….the senate. 🤣
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (Ktoks)
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About 20 years ago I was working onsite at a client in the Bay Area. Got chatting with some of the people there. I mentioned that my friend was getting married later that summer and we were planning a bachelor party. One of the things we had set up was shooting big bad guns at an outdoor range. This was to happen in the Dallas area.
I might as well have said we are going to torture puppies. The reaction was whaaaa? You’re going to shoot guns? For fun? Get me to a fainting couch asap!!!
It was both funny and retarded.
We just had our "country" fair at my church, a place which was in the country until about 40 years ago, but is now solidly NoVa suburb. For as long as anyone can remember, we've had a turkey shoot, consisting of shooting paper targets with a shotgun, with the winner getting a turkey. This year, a new Karen in the congregation got upset by the notion of firearms, and demanded we abolish the event. We didn't, and she is now gone. Well...bye.
I might as well have said we are going to torture puppies. The reaction was whaaaa? You’re going to shoot guns? For fun? Get me to a fainting couch asap!!!
It was both funny and retarded.
We just had our "country" fair at my church, a place which was in the country until about 40 years ago, but is now solidly NoVa suburb. For as long as anyone can remember, we've had a turkey shoot, consisting of shooting paper targets with a shotgun, with the winner getting a turkey. This year, a new Karen in the congregation got upset by the notion of firearms, and demanded we abolish the event. We didn't, and she is now gone. Well...bye.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xCA6C)
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Donk campaign supporter going door to door in my neighborhood this last weekend. I answered the door, they began a spiel. I interrupted with " republican candidate or democrate candidate?"
Reply was "democrat". I immediately said "get your socialist cocksucking rat bastard ass off my motherfucking property or I'll invoke the castle doctrine to remove you forcefully."
They left and haven't come back.
Reply was "democrat". I immediately said "get your socialist cocksucking rat bastard ass off my motherfucking property or I'll invoke the castle doctrine to remove you forcefully."
They left and haven't come back.
Posted by: BifBewalski at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (MsrgL)
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Well first of all, fuck off Australia.
Second of all, we're not a Democracy.
Third of all, yes we are deeply divided because not everyone got indoctrinated by the Frankfurt School's disiples.
Finally, in conclusion, go fuck yourself Australia.
Second of all, we're not a Democracy.
Third of all, yes we are deeply divided because not everyone got indoctrinated by the Frankfurt School's disiples.
Finally, in conclusion, go fuck yourself Australia.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
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130 Finally, in conclusion, go fuck yourself Australia.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
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Except Peter Weir.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
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Except Peter Weir.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
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It's like me thinking all brits are like the characters on Keeping Up Appearances or Only Fools & Horses.
It's like me thinking all brits are like the characters on Keeping Up Appearances or Only Fools & Horses.
Posted by: Soothie at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (WWIvN)
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131 130 Finally, in conclusion, go fuck yourself Australia.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
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Except Peter Weir.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
Oh you mean the guy who quit making movies because it's hard?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:40 AM (xcxpd)
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Except Peter Weir.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:41 AM (GBKbO)
Oh you mean the guy who quit making movies because it's hard?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (xcxpd)
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Reply was "democrat". I immediately said "get your socialist cocksucking rat bastard ass off my motherfucking property or I'll invoke the castle doctrine to remove you forcefully."
They left and haven't come back.
Posted by: BifBewalski a
Ill give you to the count of ten to get your your ugly, yellow, no-good keister off my property, before I pump your guts full of lead!. 1-2-10
They left and haven't come back.
Posted by: BifBewalski a
Ill give you to the count of ten to get your your ugly, yellow, no-good keister off my property, before I pump your guts full of lead!. 1-2-10
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (CIS44)
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Reddit is full of this stuff. Lots of “why do Americans do this” questions.
And most of the time Americans don’t actually do the thing, they just think we do based on TV shows or movies.
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
And most of the time Americans don’t actually do the thing, they just think we do based on TV shows or movies.
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
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The country is "polarized" because our elites are pushing vile insanity on the country.
This isn't a debate about whether the tax rate should go up or down a half a percent but whether you are allowed to say things the government doesn't like, whether the government can mutilate your child, and whether tens of thousands of grifters from abroad will be placed in your town over night.
And we sure as hell aren't a democracy, hell after the Steal 2020 we are no longer a Republic. So what do I hate? Our oligarchy. Give me back my Republic.
This isn't a debate about whether the tax rate should go up or down a half a percent but whether you are allowed to say things the government doesn't like, whether the government can mutilate your child, and whether tens of thousands of grifters from abroad will be placed in your town over night.
And we sure as hell aren't a democracy, hell after the Steal 2020 we are no longer a Republic. So what do I hate? Our oligarchy. Give me back my Republic.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (oZhjI)
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ising to leave the U.S. is growing every day. After much thought here's a list of the ones I hope stay.
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I might come up with a few more.
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I might come up with a few more.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (FfSAJ)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (iDDyA)
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Oh you mean the guy who quit making movies because it's hard?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (xcxpd)
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He made Master and Commander. All other cinematic sins, including giving up, are forgiven.
Oh you mean the guy who quit making movies because it's hard?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (xcxpd)
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He made Master and Commander. All other cinematic sins, including giving up, are forgiven.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:43 AM (GBKbO)
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135 Reddit is full of this stuff. Lots of “why do Americans do this” questions.
And most of the time Americans don’t actually do the thing, they just think we do based on TV shows or movies.
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
"We need to ban AR-24/7s!" - Kamala tomorrow
And most of the time Americans don’t actually do the thing, they just think we do based on TV shows or movies.
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
"We need to ban AR-24/7s!" - Kamala tomorrow
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:43 AM (KbCG3)
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Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
We aren't? People, come on. Step up the game.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
We aren't? People, come on. Step up the game.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (N39Ws)
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I usually give a break to the religious that come to my door. I feel it takes guts to do that based on the state of the country. I will make no allowances for the Dems OR the GOP.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (Z8Yh2)
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Finally, in conclusion, go f*** yourself Australia.
Nah, most Aussies are good people. Their situation is very much like ours. They have an overweening "elite" class who want to rule the proles with an iron fist. I predict a Trump win will motivate them to rebel.
Nah, most Aussies are good people. Their situation is very much like ours. They have an overweening "elite" class who want to rule the proles with an iron fist. I predict a Trump win will motivate them to rebel.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (xCA6C)
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138 Posted by: canvassed at October 09, 2024 11:14 AM (730mU)
Spammer to be nuked at Table 35.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (iDDyA)
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Eh. Just removing his link is enough.
Spammer to be nuked at Table 35.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (iDDyA)
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Eh. Just removing his link is enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
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‘ the larger they are in population size--the more dysfunctional they are and are a remnant of a centralization rural to city migration for jobs. ’
The dysfunction of big cities comes less from the size and more from people who ought not be voting allowed to vote. I.E. anyone currently dependent on government assistance.
They will always vote destructively.
‘ the larger they are in population size--the more dysfunctional they are and are a remnant of a centralization rural to city migration for jobs. ’
The dysfunction of big cities comes less from the size and more from people who ought not be voting allowed to vote. I.E. anyone currently dependent on government assistance.
They will always vote destructively.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (jbnUc)
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I love movies that show them as scheming, dishonest assholes.
Ace in the Hole. His Girl Friday. Richard Jewell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
This I endorse wholeheartedly
Ace in the Hole. His Girl Friday. Richard Jewell.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:37 AM (GBKbO)
This I endorse wholeheartedly
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (xcxpd)
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They would be better served by going on offense for 4 years and focusing on finding better candidates (Governors) for 2028.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
If Trump wins, 2028 is going to be lit. There are a shitload of Dem candidates waiting to run, and it's going to be BRUTAL on their side.
We'll have a tough run, too, as Vance and DeSantis fight for the "new way foward" Republican voters, Rubio and Haley-types fake the funk as more palatable "conservatives", and a Jeb! type openly Establishment loser runs for his ritual public humiliation.
Who will be the non-politician wild card? We've had Carson, Vivek, Trump, Cain...I was thinking Musk, but he's not native born.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
If Trump wins, 2028 is going to be lit. There are a shitload of Dem candidates waiting to run, and it's going to be BRUTAL on their side.
We'll have a tough run, too, as Vance and DeSantis fight for the "new way foward" Republican voters, Rubio and Haley-types fake the funk as more palatable "conservatives", and a Jeb! type openly Establishment loser runs for his ritual public humiliation.
Who will be the non-politician wild card? We've had Carson, Vivek, Trump, Cain...I was thinking Musk, but he's not native born.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 11:45 AM (JCZqz)
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Nah, most Aussies are good people. Their situation is very much like ours. They have an overweening "elite" class who want to rule the proles with an iron fist. I predict a Trump win will motivate them to rebel.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (xCA6C)
Aussie normies used to be my favorite non-Americans. But the way they knelt to the mask hysteria and gun control really soured me on them.
Still...they're way better than the Brits.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (xCA6C)
Aussie normies used to be my favorite non-Americans. But the way they knelt to the mask hysteria and gun control really soured me on them.
Still...they're way better than the Brits.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:46 AM (xcxpd)
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I'm also starting to think (hope?) that the Dems are realizing that employing The Big Steal 2.0 in order to get a trainwreck Harris/Costanza Administration installed probably isn't in the party's best long-term interests.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
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Dunno, trying to assassinate Trump and destroy him through lawfare along with the big steal in 2020 indicates that a certain percentage of Dems and their Deep State controllers are so afraid of justice that they cannot back down.
Sometimes a crisis can be avoided like the misguided Hartford Convention in NE during the War of 1812. Sometimes it cannot--like Charles I v. Parliament or the US Civil War.
But, the more illegal acts that the Dems are doing in campaign finance (19 states are now investigating smurfing), outright stealing of Covid and foreign aid, widespread use of government money to pay for Democrat campaigning, etc. makes it much harder for the criminals running the Dem party to step down. They risk and fear justice for what they have done.
That in turn resembles the situation that the fireeaters in the South faced prior to Lincoln's presidency. Too often desperate people double down when they should fold.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist
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Dunno, trying to assassinate Trump and destroy him through lawfare along with the big steal in 2020 indicates that a certain percentage of Dems and their Deep State controllers are so afraid of justice that they cannot back down.
Sometimes a crisis can be avoided like the misguided Hartford Convention in NE during the War of 1812. Sometimes it cannot--like Charles I v. Parliament or the US Civil War.
But, the more illegal acts that the Dems are doing in campaign finance (19 states are now investigating smurfing), outright stealing of Covid and foreign aid, widespread use of government money to pay for Democrat campaigning, etc. makes it much harder for the criminals running the Dem party to step down. They risk and fear justice for what they have done.
That in turn resembles the situation that the fireeaters in the South faced prior to Lincoln's presidency. Too often desperate people double down when they should fold.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:46 AM (bt/Nj)
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And most of the time Americans don’t actually do the thing, they just think we do based on TV shows or movies.
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
After college, I toured Europe, including Scotland. I have relatives there, and stayed with them a few days. The father, then about 60, and I were watching the Godfather, and after a particularly bloody scene, he turned to me and asked if that was what life was like in America. He was serious.
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
After college, I toured Europe, including Scotland. I have relatives there, and stayed with them a few days. The father, then about 60, and I were watching the Godfather, and after a particularly bloody scene, he turned to me and asked if that was what life was like in America. He was serious.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:46 AM (xCA6C)
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And only Republicans gerrymander. The fact Massachusetts is a 65-35 state yet 100% of seats are Democrat is just a weird coincidence. Same with Illinois, look at some districts there. It’s the craziest shapes you’ve ever seen.
MA might be the most crooked state in America.
When Whitey Bulger was running the mob and the FBI his brother was the most important politician in MA
MA might be the most crooked state in America.
When Whitey Bulger was running the mob and the FBI his brother was the most important politician in MA
Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 11:46 AM (oZhjI)
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 09, 2024 11:47 AM (w9Wax)
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Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
*looks at pistol on hip and rifle on chair*
Well, ok. They're right about ONE thing.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
*looks at pistol on hip and rifle on chair*
Well, ok. They're right about ONE thing.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:47 AM (xcxpd)
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Aussie normies used to be my favorite non-Americans. But the way they knelt to the mask hysteria and gun control really soured me on them.
Still...they're way better than the Brits.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Aussies now have more guns than when the ban began. Just not the ones that the elites in urban areas hated.
Fun fact is that those urban elites are getting it good and hard from foreign criminals that do not give a shit about illegally importing firearms and Australia with its vast coastline is easy peasy to smuggle in people, drugs, and things that go bang.
Still...they're way better than the Brits.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Aussies now have more guns than when the ban began. Just not the ones that the elites in urban areas hated.
Fun fact is that those urban elites are getting it good and hard from foreign criminals that do not give a shit about illegally importing firearms and Australia with its vast coastline is easy peasy to smuggle in people, drugs, and things that go bang.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (bt/Nj)
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We'll have a tough run, too, as Vance and DeSantis fight for the "new way foward" Republican voters, Rubio and Haley-types fake the funk as more palatable "conservatives", and a Jeb! type openly Establishment loser runs for his ritual public humiliation.
I really doubt we'll hear much from the GOPe wing. They're effectively dead now, or at least comatose.
I really doubt we'll hear much from the GOPe wing. They're effectively dead now, or at least comatose.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)
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every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Is this a new version of my AR 15?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 09, 2024 11:47 AM (w9Wax)
It has that thing that goes up.
Is this a new version of my AR 15?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 09, 2024 11:47 AM (w9Wax)
It has that thing that goes up.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (g8Ew8)
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Safaris. I remember an iowahawk piece where two liberal journalists decide to journey into the Midwest. I think they get separated. It was just the first part of a series but I never found any other follow on pieces.
It was hysterical. Like Thompson's Gonzo meets Conrad's HoD.
I've tried to find it for years and bookmark it.
It was hysterical. Like Thompson's Gonzo meets Conrad's HoD.
I've tried to find it for years and bookmark it.
Posted by: pawn at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (QB+5g)
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speakin' of which, with some anthropologist or primate researcher or something or other touting lab-made diamonds as a way to sequester carbon before it gets into the atmosphere, thus saving the planet. buy! buy more now!
Posted by: anachronda at October 09, 2024 11:22 AM (sGtp+)
That's beyond stupid. The energy requirements are such that one would have to burn a hundred pounds of carbon to make the energy needed to make a pound of diamonds.
Much more sensible to make lab-made calcium carbonate, which is limestone, and use it as building material.
Posted by: anachronda at October 09, 2024 11:22 AM (sGtp+)
That's beyond stupid. The energy requirements are such that one would have to burn a hundred pounds of carbon to make the energy needed to make a pound of diamonds.
Much more sensible to make lab-made calcium carbonate, which is limestone, and use it as building material.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 11:49 AM (iWRry)
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every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Is this a new version of my AR 15?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 09, 2024 11:47 AM (w9Wax)
It has 2 things that go up.
Is this a new version of my AR 15?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 09, 2024 11:47 AM (w9Wax)
It has 2 things that go up.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (Ktoks)
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After college, I toured Europe, including Scotland. I have relatives there, and stayed with them a few days. The father, then about 60, and I were watching the Godfather, and after a particularly bloody scene, he turned to me and asked if that was what life was like in America. He was serious.
Posted by: Archimedes
You have to be mean and tell them that a certain demographic and sex in urban areas involved in criminal activity has an outsized affect on murders. Most counties in the US rarely have murders--where they occur are centralized where drug trafficking and other illegal activities occur and by people engaged in those illegal activities. Has changed somewhat with the defenseless border bringing higher crime to rural areas along with their vibrancy when shipped there by hostile Fedgov.
Posted by: Archimedes
You have to be mean and tell them that a certain demographic and sex in urban areas involved in criminal activity has an outsized affect on murders. Most counties in the US rarely have murders--where they occur are centralized where drug trafficking and other illegal activities occur and by people engaged in those illegal activities. Has changed somewhat with the defenseless border bringing higher crime to rural areas along with their vibrancy when shipped there by hostile Fedgov.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (bt/Nj)
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Australians probably enjoy a bit of safari in America.
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but there's no beetroots on the hamburgers.
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but there's no beetroots on the hamburgers.
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (v0R5T)
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I'm sure he stole it from someone.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 09, 2024 11:33 AM (eb5mD)[
Dilbert and Scott Adams, I suspect
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at October 09, 2024 11:33 AM (eb5mD)[
Dilbert and Scott Adams, I suspect
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (D7oie)
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74 Why do conservatives become raging lunatic liberals when they move to big cities?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (FfSAJ)
Nothing made me shed my liberal kid northern california beliefs faster than moving to nyc.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (FfSAJ)
Nothing made me shed my liberal kid northern california beliefs faster than moving to nyc.
Posted by: Marcus Gravey at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (TIizU)
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>>But yeah Republicans gerrymander exclusively.
Massachusetts is the literal inverse of Oklahoma in terms of political parties.
Literally the inverse.
So these happen.
>>But yeah Republicans gerrymander exclusively.
Massachusetts is the literal inverse of Oklahoma in terms of political parties.
Literally the inverse.
So these happen.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (XV/Pl)
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"Democracy" isn't mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. Not once. Nor in the Constitution, or in the Bill of Rights.
It does mention that the national government must protect the states from invasion.
Thankfully that isn't negotiable, and the USA is good to go on that score. Wait, what??
Oh, and that paper currency phony baloney confetti-buck stuff is illegal too.
It does mention that the national government must protect the states from invasion.
Thankfully that isn't negotiable, and the USA is good to go on that score. Wait, what??
Oh, and that paper currency phony baloney confetti-buck stuff is illegal too.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (GLjEo)
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I've been watching short clips of Letterkenny (I've never watched a whole episode and I know it's set in Canada. )
I can't decide whether or not it's ridiculing small town people.
I can't decide whether or not it's ridiculing small town people.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (FfSAJ)
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“ That in turn resembles the situation that the fireeaters in the South faced prior to Lincoln's presidency. Too often desperate people double down when they should fold.”
The new steal seems very focused on winning the House to stop any investigation of their improprieties and buy enough time to bury the mess. They also want to use that as a means to stop an agenda which will crush their four years of subversion.
Me thinks we are going to see the most irregularity in the House races. You can already see places like NY and CA working to steal the Republican seats.
The new steal seems very focused on winning the House to stop any investigation of their improprieties and buy enough time to bury the mess. They also want to use that as a means to stop an agenda which will crush their four years of subversion.
Me thinks we are going to see the most irregularity in the House races. You can already see places like NY and CA working to steal the Republican seats.
Posted by: Vengeance at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (0PmHs)
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Australia is an authoritarian nightmare were the government claims the right to forcibly inject its subjects with poison.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (oZhjI)
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It has that thing that goes up.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (g8Ew
Go on.....
--Kamala
It has that thing that goes up.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (g8Ew
Go on.....
--Kamala
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (N39Ws)
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Aussies now have more guns than when the ban began. Just not the ones that the elites in urban areas hated.
Fun fact is that those urban elites are getting it good and hard from foreign criminals that do not give a shit about illegally importing firearms and Australia with its vast coastline is easy peasy to smuggle in people, drugs, and things that go bang.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (bt/Nj)
There is pretty massive non-compliance, true. But the laws are still on the books and will be used against them.
Well never mind me, I'm probably just grumpy because my friend bogarted my bourbon at D&D night last night.
Fun fact is that those urban elites are getting it good and hard from foreign criminals that do not give a shit about illegally importing firearms and Australia with its vast coastline is easy peasy to smuggle in people, drugs, and things that go bang.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (bt/Nj)
There is pretty massive non-compliance, true. But the laws are still on the books and will be used against them.
Well never mind me, I'm probably just grumpy because my friend bogarted my bourbon at D&D night last night.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Vote but also buy ammo at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (xcxpd)
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155 I really doubt we'll hear much from the GOPe wing. They're effectively dead now, or at least comatose.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)
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In 2028, we'll be arguing about whether Rubio's or Pence's corporate tax plan is best.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)
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In 2028, we'll be arguing about whether Rubio's or Pence's corporate tax plan is best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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124 And only Republicans gerrymander. The fact Massachusetts is a 65-35 state yet 100% of seats are Democrat is just a weird coincidence.
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I live in a gerrymandered MA district, the 4th Congressional District. A narrow finger of the district dubiously reaches up towards Boston to make sure we have enough Karen McKarenbergs to prevent us from going off the reservation.
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I live in a gerrymandered MA district, the 4th Congressional District. A narrow finger of the district dubiously reaches up towards Boston to make sure we have enough Karen McKarenbergs to prevent us from going off the reservation.
Posted by: Anti-Faucist at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (qUkBO)
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Cities literally drive people insane.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (oZhjI)
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The media has no concept of what America really is. None. Zero. And they're not inclined to find out either.
Understandable. Not only is it not required for their careers, it would be actively harmful. Like so many things in modern America, the path to success requires constant praise for the emperor's new wardrobe.
Understandable. Not only is it not required for their careers, it would be actively harmful. Like so many things in modern America, the path to success requires constant praise for the emperor's new wardrobe.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (T7iTv)
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‘ FDR's Great Depression interventions.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons a
That dude was too lazy to even stand up.’
He let himself be pushed around do far too long.
‘ FDR's Great Depression interventions.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons a
That dude was too lazy to even stand up.’
He let himself be pushed around do far too long.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 09, 2024 11:53 AM (jbnUc)
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I really doubt we'll hear much from the GOPe wing. They're effectively dead now, or at least comatose.
Posted by: Archimedes
They are centered in the Senate where Mitch McConnell really needs to be shown the door in the Capitol or meet an accident with an exercise machine like Reid and replaced by someone other than his lieutenants like Thune or Cornyn. Both are of the same stench of statist corruption as was Bitch.
Posted by: Archimedes
They are centered in the Senate where Mitch McConnell really needs to be shown the door in the Capitol or meet an accident with an exercise machine like Reid and replaced by someone other than his lieutenants like Thune or Cornyn. Both are of the same stench of statist corruption as was Bitch.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:53 AM (bt/Nj)
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 11:53 AM (v0R5T)
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To understand rural Americans you have to go to diners where folks gather to discuss politics, local issues, religion, family etc... Everybody know that.
Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 11:53 AM (GUOwU)
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Kevin Sorbo "Not Voting Just For Trump
https://tinyurl.com/yc2dj697
Read it and if you think worthy pass it on. I did and am.
https://tinyurl.com/yc2dj697
Read it and if you think worthy pass it on. I did and am.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 09, 2024 11:53 AM (17s+e)
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What are the built in "assumptions" in the report that magically favor Democrats. Because they are there.
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 11:54 AM (hmOfI)
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Massachusetts is the literal inverse of Oklahoma in terms of political parties.
Literally the inverse.
So these happen.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (XV/Pl)
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. It happens on both sides. But the leftist view is that ONLY Republicans do it.
Literally the inverse.
So these happen.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2024 11:50 AM (XV/Pl)
Yeah that’s what I’m saying. It happens on both sides. But the leftist view is that ONLY Republicans do it.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:54 AM (Ktoks)
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Sam Adams himself said that revolt against a monarchy was laudable, but revolt against a republic deserved death.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (Q0kLU)
Perhaps less quotable but "it's okay to revolt against THAT guy but not ME" is, at least, honest.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at October 09, 2024 11:28 AM (Q0kLU)
Perhaps less quotable but "it's okay to revolt against THAT guy but not ME" is, at least, honest.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 09, 2024 11:55 AM (T7iTv)
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In 2028, we'll be arguing about whether Rubio's or Pence's corporate tax plan is best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I doubt it. If Trump loses, we go into accelerated decline to the extent that neither Rubio nor Pence will get a single notice.
YOLO is what is driving the crook faction to grab it all now over the genteel legal graft faction in the Democrat party now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I doubt it. If Trump loses, we go into accelerated decline to the extent that neither Rubio nor Pence will get a single notice.
YOLO is what is driving the crook faction to grab it all now over the genteel legal graft faction in the Democrat party now.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:55 AM (bt/Nj)
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I don't use the term "liberal" as communists aren't liberal, they are totalitarians. They are liberal like the inflation reduction act reduced inflation.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024 11:55 AM (pohLc)
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The media has no concept of what America really is. None. Zero. And they're not inclined to find out either.
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They have no concept of much of anything. See Dunning Kruger Effect. They are ignorant know nothings that think they are smart and know everything.
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They have no concept of much of anything. See Dunning Kruger Effect. They are ignorant know nothings that think they are smart and know everything.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 09, 2024 11:56 AM (17s+e)
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Harris thinks taking a tiny sip of beer will show she understands conservatives. Liberals seem to think Timpon is a classic Midwestern.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (FfSAJ)
Pete Buttigieg thinks taking tiny sips of penis shows he understands women.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (FfSAJ)
Pete Buttigieg thinks taking tiny sips of penis shows he understands women.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 09, 2024 11:56 AM (T7iTv)
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"Safari journalism."
That's good.
That's good.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 09, 2024 11:56 AM (Rbu5d)
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It's interesting how open the likes of Hillary are in their insane hatred of conservatives.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:56 AM (FfSAJ)
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166 I've been watching short clips of Letterkenny (I've never watched a whole episode and I know it's set in Canada. )
I can't decide whether or not it's ridiculing small town people.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (FfSAJ)
It's satirizing everything from small towns to hockey culture.
I can't decide whether or not it's ridiculing small town people.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:51 AM (FfSAJ)
It's satirizing everything from small towns to hockey culture.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (KbCG3)
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I really doubt we'll hear much from the GOPe wing. They're effectively dead now, or at least comatose.
Posted by: Archimedes
Think so? Plenty of Bulwark / Lincoln Man-Boy Love Project / National Review types, back by liberal dollars, that would be happy to fund a Cheney/Romney/Pence clone, just to stir the shit and give the MSM someone to interview on the extremism of the Republican Party.
And plenty of loser Establishment politicians would be happy to run in this situation, for a little visibility and money.
Posted by: Archimedes
Think so? Plenty of Bulwark / Lincoln Man-Boy Love Project / National Review types, back by liberal dollars, that would be happy to fund a Cheney/Romney/Pence clone, just to stir the shit and give the MSM someone to interview on the extremism of the Republican Party.
And plenty of loser Establishment politicians would be happy to run in this situation, for a little visibility and money.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (JCZqz)
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Why do conservatives become raging lunatic liberals when they move to big cities?
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (FfSAJ)
Because they finally see the light, baby!!
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 11:26 AM (FfSAJ)
Because they finally see the light, baby!!
Posted by: Chucky Cheese Schumer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (iODuv)
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I really doubt we'll hear much from the GOPe wing. They're effectively dead now, or at least comatose.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)
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In 2028, we'll be arguing about whether Rubio's or Pence's corporate tax plan is best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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The GOPe is like zombie Jason Vorhees or Michael Myers or that oozing anal infection that keeps dripping out of David French's asshole no matter how many times his Paolo tries to fuck it out. The GOPe will never die. It will forever ooze and stink and corrode and poison everything it touches.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM (xCA6C)
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In 2028, we'll be arguing about whether Rubio's or Pence's corporate tax plan is best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
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The GOPe is like zombie Jason Vorhees or Michael Myers or that oozing anal infection that keeps dripping out of David French's asshole no matter how many times his Paolo tries to fuck it out. The GOPe will never die. It will forever ooze and stink and corrode and poison everything it touches.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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To understand rural Americans you have to go to diners where folks gather to discuss politics, local issues, religion, family etc... Everybody know that.
Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 11:53 AM (GUOwU)
And we say "ah shucks" a lot.
Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 11:53 AM (GUOwU)
And we say "ah shucks" a lot.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (g8Ew8)
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Media coverage of natural disasters also shows the rural/urban divide. How many nation news stories do you see about wildfires in Montana? Zero that’s how many. But a storm headed to NYC? A week of non stop coverage.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (Ktoks)
Posted by: Off topic at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (DobEs)
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They are centered in the Senate where Mitch McConnell really needs to be shown the door in the Capitol or meet an accident with an exercise machine like Reid and replaced by someone other than his lieutenants like Thune or Cornyn. Both are of the same stench of statist corruption as was Bitch.
Agreed, but I think McConnell is a dead letter. He's on the way out, and his power has largely slipped away. We'll know where we stand if Thune or Cornyn gets control.
Agreed, but I think McConnell is a dead letter. He's on the way out, and his power has largely slipped away. We'll know where we stand if Thune or Cornyn gets control.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (xCA6C)
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192 The GOPe is like zombie Jason Vorhees or Michael Myers or that oozing anal infection that keeps dripping out of David French's asshole no matter how many times his Paolo tries to fuck it out. The GOPe will never die. It will forever ooze and stink and corrode and poison everything it touches.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
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To understand rural Americans you have to go to diners where folks gather to discuss politics, local issues, religion, family etc... Everybody know that.
Posted by: Ripley
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Kinda like in movies, where arms dealers always meet up in night clubs, and the Good Guys always have 'intel' of the date and location of the meet. Oddly, this is literally the ONLY thing they know. They don't know where the guns are stored, what hotel the bad guys are using. Nothing. But darned if they don't know about them meeting at Club Fantastico.
Posted by: Ripley
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Kinda like in movies, where arms dealers always meet up in night clubs, and the Good Guys always have 'intel' of the date and location of the meet. Oddly, this is literally the ONLY thing they know. They don't know where the guns are stored, what hotel the bad guys are using. Nothing. But darned if they don't know about them meeting at Club Fantastico.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (Fb3Ba)
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In 2028, we'll be arguing about whether Rubio's or Pence's corporate tax plan is best.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
If this were true, Nikki Haley would either be the nom or VP.
You've said it yourself, Vance's selection forecasts a new way forward. I doubt people like Vance, Vivek or DeSantis are going to easily glide back into the old ways of doing things.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:52 AM (GBKbO)
If this were true, Nikki Haley would either be the nom or VP.
You've said it yourself, Vance's selection forecasts a new way forward. I doubt people like Vance, Vivek or DeSantis are going to easily glide back into the old ways of doing things.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
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‘ FDR's Great Depression interventions.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons a
That dude was too lazy to even stand up.’
He let himself be pushed around do far too long.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
His braces were equipped with hot springs, like pogo sticks.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons a
That dude was too lazy to even stand up.’
He let himself be pushed around do far too long.
Posted by: Dr. Claw
His braces were equipped with hot springs, like pogo sticks.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (w9Wax)
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IMHO, 2020 election was for all the marbles. Look at all of the destruction done by the Biden Harris regime and democrat party since then. I think it is unrecoverable without a step function revision.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (17s+e)
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And we say "ah shucks" a lot.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (g8Ew
And you all wear trucker hats, overalls and plaid shirts. Oh and drive a truck at least 25 years old with a gun rack.
Posted by: Dr Pork Chops & Bacons at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (g8Ew
And you all wear trucker hats, overalls and plaid shirts. Oh and drive a truck at least 25 years old with a gun rack.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (Ktoks)
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The GOPe is like zombie Jason Vorhees or Michael Myers or that oozing anal infection that keeps dripping out of David French's asshole no matter how many times his Paolo tries to fuck it out. The GOPe will never die. It will forever ooze and stink and corrode and poison everything it touches.
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
_________
You're joking, right?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (iFTx/)
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Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
_________
You're joking, right?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
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"Superstorm Sandy"
"Superstorm Sandy"
Posted by: Al Gore at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (DobEs)
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I doubt it. If Trump loses, we go into accelerated decline to the extent that neither Rubio nor Pence will get a single notice.
YOLO is what is driving the crook faction to grab it all now over the genteel legal graft faction in the Democrat party now.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:55 AM (bt/Nj)
If Trump loses, I call top bunk in the camps!
YOLO is what is driving the crook faction to grab it all now over the genteel legal graft faction in the Democrat party now.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 11:55 AM (bt/Nj)
If Trump loses, I call top bunk in the camps!
Posted by: blaster at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (xhfG9)
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@74
>>Why do conservatives become raging lunatic liberals when they move to big cities?
They were probably already liberal or liberalish before they moved.
I was born and raised in NYC, and lived an worked in an environment that was about as liberal/leftist as you can get, I was always Conservative, and have only gotten more conservative as time has gone on.
People who start out as one ideology and convert had the seeds of their new ideology in them.
>>Why do conservatives become raging lunatic liberals when they move to big cities?
They were probably already liberal or liberalish before they moved.
I was born and raised in NYC, and lived an worked in an environment that was about as liberal/leftist as you can get, I was always Conservative, and have only gotten more conservative as time has gone on.
People who start out as one ideology and convert had the seeds of their new ideology in them.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (XV/Pl)
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Jefferson wanted a country of yeoman farmers, having never done any actual farming himself, but rather relying on slaves to do his work for him. Hamilton understood that a modern economy required manufacturing, and did his best to ensure that we had an industrial base.
Which one is more credible?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (xCA6C)
I don't think the one who's main goals was to manage the economy through tariffs, state sponsored capital improvement projects like roads, canals and ports funded by national debt and control of the banking system through the national bank, and choosing which of his cronies best represented his view of the best economic path to be chosen for the country was doing much more than recreating the mercantilist system of foreign control that the Continental Army and Congress spent 20 years fighting to end.
Hamilton sought corruption as a self focusing force to encourage the elites of society to participate more actively in running the economy whereas Jefferson felt that individuals had a better idea of what was needed and would work for their own interests far harder than for some neo-aristo who could steal his life for profits
Which one is more credible?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 11:36 AM (xCA6C)
I don't think the one who's main goals was to manage the economy through tariffs, state sponsored capital improvement projects like roads, canals and ports funded by national debt and control of the banking system through the national bank, and choosing which of his cronies best represented his view of the best economic path to be chosen for the country was doing much more than recreating the mercantilist system of foreign control that the Continental Army and Congress spent 20 years fighting to end.
Hamilton sought corruption as a self focusing force to encourage the elites of society to participate more actively in running the economy whereas Jefferson felt that individuals had a better idea of what was needed and would work for their own interests far harder than for some neo-aristo who could steal his life for profits
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 12:00 PM (D7oie)
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199 If this were true, Nikki Haley would either be the nom or VP.
You've said it yourself, Vance's selection forecasts a new way forward. I doubt people like Vance, Vivek or DeSantis are going to easily glide back into the old ways of doing things.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
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I don't think it's a stretch to believe that Trump alone is responsible for Trumpism in the GOP. We can have hope that it'll continue beyond him, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that the GOPe will be able to take the reins again once he's gone.
They did after Reagan.
You've said it yourself, Vance's selection forecasts a new way forward. I doubt people like Vance, Vivek or DeSantis are going to easily glide back into the old ways of doing things.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (KbCG3)
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I don't think it's a stretch to believe that Trump alone is responsible for Trumpism in the GOP. We can have hope that it'll continue beyond him, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that the GOPe will be able to take the reins again once he's gone.
They did after Reagan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
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Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
Austin Powers
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
Austin Powers
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:00 PM (hmOfI)
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And you all wear trucker hats, overalls and plaid shirts. Oh and drive a truck at least 25 years old with a gun rack.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (Ktoks)
And all the men have beer bellies.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (Ktoks)
And all the men have beer bellies.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:00 PM (FfSAJ)
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203 Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
_________
You're joking, right?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
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I don't joke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
_________
You're joking, right?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
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I don't joke.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)
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It's satirizing everything from small towns to hockey culture.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (KbCG3)
Those damn upcountry DeGens!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (KbCG3)
Those damn upcountry DeGens!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (CIS44)
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Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
_________
You're joking, right?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
He is. But he also doesn't get it.
Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
_________
You're joking, right?
Posted by: Doctor Elric the Blade at October 09, 2024 11:59 AM (iFTx/)
He is. But he also doesn't get it.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (KbCG3)
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Think so? Plenty of Bulwark / Lincoln Man-Boy Love Project / National Review types, back by liberal dollars, that would be happy to fund a Cheney/Romney/Pence clone, just to stir the shit and give the MSM someone to interview on the extremism of the Republican Party.
And plenty of loser Establishment politicians would be happy to run in this situation, for a little visibility and money.
You're describing '16, '20, and '24. By '28, it will be clear to all that the old way is deader than Steve Gutenberg's career.
The GOPe is like zombie Jason Vorhees or Michael Myers or that oozing anal infection that keeps dripping out of David French's asshole no matter how many times his Paolo tries to fuck it out. The GOPe will never die. It will forever ooze and stink and corrode and poison everything it touches.
It will, but nobody will be paying attention to them.
And plenty of loser Establishment politicians would be happy to run in this situation, for a little visibility and money.
You're describing '16, '20, and '24. By '28, it will be clear to all that the old way is deader than Steve Gutenberg's career.
The GOPe is like zombie Jason Vorhees or Michael Myers or that oozing anal infection that keeps dripping out of David French's asshole no matter how many times his Paolo tries to fuck it out. The GOPe will never die. It will forever ooze and stink and corrode and poison everything it touches.
It will, but nobody will be paying attention to them.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (xCA6C)
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209 Who the fuck is Michael Myers?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
Austin Powers
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:00 PM (hmOfI)
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Nah, the killer dude from Halloween!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:58 AM (GBKbO)
Austin Powers
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:00 PM (hmOfI)
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Nah, the killer dude from Halloween!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
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BULLETIN
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 18
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1100 AM EDT Wed Oct 09 2024
...TORNADIC SUPERCELLS FROM MILTON BEGINNING TO SWEEP ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...
...THE TIME TO PREPARE, INCLUDING EVACUATE IF TOLD DO SO, IS
QUICKLY COMING TO AN END ALONG THE FLORIDA WEST COAST...
SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...25.8N 84.3W
ABOUT 160 MI...255 KM WSW OF FT. MYERS FLORIDA
ABOUT 190 MI...305 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...145 MPH...230 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NE OR 35 DEGREES AT 17 MPH...28 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...931 MB...27.50 INCHES
Hurricane Milton Advisory Number 18
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL142024
1100 AM EDT Wed Oct 09 2024
...TORNADIC SUPERCELLS FROM MILTON BEGINNING TO SWEEP ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN FLORIDA PENINSULA...
...THE TIME TO PREPARE, INCLUDING EVACUATE IF TOLD DO SO, IS
QUICKLY COMING TO AN END ALONG THE FLORIDA WEST COAST...
SUMMARY OF 1100 AM EDT...1500 UTC...INFORMATION
-----------------------------------------------
LOCATION...25.8N 84.3W
ABOUT 160 MI...255 KM WSW OF FT. MYERS FLORIDA
ABOUT 190 MI...305 KM SW OF TAMPA FLORIDA
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...145 MPH...230 KM/H
PRESENT MOVEMENT...NE OR 35 DEGREES AT 17 MPH...28 KM/H
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...931 MB...27.50 INCHES
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (yU0dr)
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212 It's satirizing everything from small towns to hockey culture.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (KbCG3)
Those damn upcountry DeGens!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (CIS44)
Hockey season just started! Time for some epic bardownskis!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (KbCG3)
Those damn upcountry DeGens!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (CIS44)
Hockey season just started! Time for some epic bardownskis!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (KbCG3)
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I don't think it's a stretch to believe that Trump alone is responsible for Trumpism in the GOP. We can have hope that it'll continue beyond him, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that the GOPe will be able to take the reins again once he's gone.
They did after Reagan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
===
BINGO! Evil never sleeps.
They did after Reagan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
===
BINGO! Evil never sleeps.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (17s+e)
219
But what does Tay-Tay think?
Posted by: The most important thing at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (DobEs)
220
Nah, the killer dude from Halloween!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it.
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (hmOfI)
221
At the NYTimes, the only polarization is between Progressive Leftists and Liberals (there are no conservative voices there)
Posted by: SMOD at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (RHGPo)
222
Eh. Just removing his link is enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
No, they should be hunted down, and flayed alive. Pour encourager les autres.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 11:44 AM (GBKbO)
No, they should be hunted down, and flayed alive. Pour encourager les autres.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (N965F)
223
220 Nah, the killer dude from Halloween!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it.
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (hmOfI)
=======
Oh, you mean Jason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it.
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (hmOfI)
=======
Oh, you mean Jason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (GBKbO)
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Posted by: I used to have a different nic
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Adams served as governor and whatever Shay's grievances were on the economy, if you accept the social contract, even Locke did not claim an extended right to revolt because your personal economics suck. Sometimes government makes decisions that affect people negatively personally. That will always happen under every government in the sun. What you can do though is make sure it is through regular procedures aka law of the land and done by representatives that you at least had to opportunity to select.
Under that understanding that individual economic rights are supreme, druggies would be entitled to revolt because their right to sell drugs were circumscribed by laws affecting their economics. Same with laws preventing whores from selling their wares.
Sam was not a libertarian nor were the Founding Fathers by and large. That is a major glossing over of history. What they were for is "ordered liberty" which means society and government have a role in circumscribing the degree of autonomy that individuals have when it affects others in society.
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Adams served as governor and whatever Shay's grievances were on the economy, if you accept the social contract, even Locke did not claim an extended right to revolt because your personal economics suck. Sometimes government makes decisions that affect people negatively personally. That will always happen under every government in the sun. What you can do though is make sure it is through regular procedures aka law of the land and done by representatives that you at least had to opportunity to select.
Under that understanding that individual economic rights are supreme, druggies would be entitled to revolt because their right to sell drugs were circumscribed by laws affecting their economics. Same with laws preventing whores from selling their wares.
Sam was not a libertarian nor were the Founding Fathers by and large. That is a major glossing over of history. What they were for is "ordered liberty" which means society and government have a role in circumscribing the degree of autonomy that individuals have when it affects others in society.
Posted by: whig at October 09, 2024 12:03 PM (bt/Nj)
225
Hockey season just started! Time for some epic bardownskis!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (KbCG3)
Wanna get a couple sanndos after praccy?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (KbCG3)
Wanna get a couple sanndos after praccy?
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:03 PM (CIS44)
226
Both Alabama and Georgia football teams are no longer number one. Unity.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 09, 2024 12:03 PM (c711F)
227
Safaris. I remember an iowahawk piece where two liberal journalists decide to journey into the Midwest. I think they get separated. It was just the first part of a series but I never found any other follow on pieces.
It was hysterical. Like Thompson's Gonzo meets Conrad's HoD.
I've tried to find it for years and bookmark it.
Posted by: pawn at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM
Here you go:
https://tinyurl.com/2vrx78uv
It was hysterical. Like Thompson's Gonzo meets Conrad's HoD.
I've tried to find it for years and bookmark it.
Posted by: pawn at October 09, 2024 11:48 AM
Here you go:
https://tinyurl.com/2vrx78uv
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2024 12:03 PM (ZANHd)
228
I still say Milton is a faggot name for Hurricane ass kicker.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024 12:03 PM (pohLc)
229
If Trump wins, there’s no way Vance is t the nominee in 2028.
If he loses it’ll be a nasty bitter nomination fight. DeSantis vs the RINOs.
If he loses it’ll be a nasty bitter nomination fight. DeSantis vs the RINOs.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 12:04 PM (Ktoks)
230
228 I still say Milton is a faggot name for Hurricane ass kicker.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024 12:03 PM (pohLc)
It is sra blaster's ex's name. It seems fitting enough.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024 12:03 PM (pohLc)
It is sra blaster's ex's name. It seems fitting enough.
Posted by: blaster at October 09, 2024 12:05 PM (xhfG9)
231
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
You have to admit it makes it hard to get in and out of a Miata in a hurry.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
You have to admit it makes it hard to get in and out of a Miata in a hurry.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 12:05 PM (D7oie)
232
Milton Friedman > Milton Bearle
> Milton the Hurricane
> Milton the Hurricane
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 12:05 PM (Ktoks)
233
You have to admit it makes it hard to get in and out of a Miata in a hurry.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 12:05 PM
I think we need VIA's input on this.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 12:05 PM
I think we need VIA's input on this.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2024 12:06 PM (ZANHd)
234
It's satirizing everything from small towns to hockey culture.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (KbCG3)
Those damn upcountry DeGens!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (CIS44)
Hockey season just started! Time for some epic bardownskis!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (KbCG3)
Allegedly
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 11:57 AM (KbCG3)
Those damn upcountry DeGens!
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (CIS44)
Hockey season just started! Time for some epic bardownskis!
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (KbCG3)
Allegedly
Posted by: Doof at October 09, 2024 12:06 PM (RIT1U)
235
@218
>>They did after Reagan.
If Trump loses, he'll be gone-gone, and MAGA/America First with him.
The remnants of the movement will be reabsorbed into GOPe Borg or driven out, just like they did The Tea Party.
The bigger issue is what do the voters do, because I know I am done voting for lousy rotten GOPe shitheels.
So, I'm guessing the destruction of MAGA will lead to the dissolution of The Republic, because, to paraphrase an Agent of Chaos, Trump changed thing, forever, there's no going back.
>>They did after Reagan.
If Trump loses, he'll be gone-gone, and MAGA/America First with him.
The remnants of the movement will be reabsorbed into GOPe Borg or driven out, just like they did The Tea Party.
The bigger issue is what do the voters do, because I know I am done voting for lousy rotten GOPe shitheels.
So, I'm guessing the destruction of MAGA will lead to the dissolution of The Republic, because, to paraphrase an Agent of Chaos, Trump changed thing, forever, there's no going back.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 09, 2024 12:06 PM (XV/Pl)
236
Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
Are we not?
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
Are we not?
Posted by: blaster at October 09, 2024 12:06 PM (xhfG9)
237
"Safari journalism."
That's good.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker
......
hope they shoot themselves in the foot
That's good.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker
......
hope they shoot themselves in the foot
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 12:06 PM (v0R5T)
238
Michael Myers was a relief pitcher for the Colorado Rockies years ago.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Telling War Stories at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (xPJvm)
239
"I still say Milton is a faggot name for Hurricane ass kicker.
Posted by: Xipe Totec"
You can trace the rapid decline of the country to when hurricanes started being named after men. Coincidence? I think not
Posted by: Xipe Totec"
You can trace the rapid decline of the country to when hurricanes started being named after men. Coincidence? I think not
Posted by: Ripley at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (GUOwU)
240
Hamilton sought corruption as a self focusing force to encourage the elites of society to participate more actively in running the economy whereas Jefferson felt that individuals had a better idea of what was needed and would work for their own interests far harder than for some neo-aristo who could steal his life for profits
You mean the way they did in the French Revolution that Jefferson was all in on? Yeah, that worked out great for the little man.
As it turns out, Hamilton was correct. Tariffs and a central bank were very helpful to our then-new economy. As to corruption, Hamilton was utterly incorrupt. In fact, he passed on many opportunities for corrupt self-dealing because he saw it as his mission to get the US economy off the ground, and he wanted to avoid giving anyone an excuse to obstruct his agenda. He was a paragon - certainly far more than Jefferson.
You mean the way they did in the French Revolution that Jefferson was all in on? Yeah, that worked out great for the little man.
As it turns out, Hamilton was correct. Tariffs and a central bank were very helpful to our then-new economy. As to corruption, Hamilton was utterly incorrupt. In fact, he passed on many opportunities for corrupt self-dealing because he saw it as his mission to get the US economy off the ground, and he wanted to avoid giving anyone an excuse to obstruct his agenda. He was a paragon - certainly far more than Jefferson.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
241
but it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that the GOPe will be able to take the reins again once he's gone.
They did after Reagan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
===
BINGO! Evil never sleeps.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable
-----------------------
We are always one generation away from tyranny
_Ronald Reagan
Teach you children
_Steven Stills
They did after Reagan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
===
BINGO! Evil never sleeps.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable
-----------------------
We are always one generation away from tyranny
_Ronald Reagan
Teach you children
_Steven Stills
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (yU0dr)
242
Something about that name Hurricane Milton makes me think it's going to neaten up your files and prepare your taxes on its way through town.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (FfSAJ)
243
First rule of being a Letterkenny fan is NOT letting people know you're a fan.
That show will rot your brain and destroy your soul . . . and you'll be laughing all the way.
That show will rot your brain and destroy your soul . . . and you'll be laughing all the way.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (Fb3Ba)
244
First rule of being a Letterkenny fan is NOT letting people know you're a fan.
That show will rot your brain and destroy your soul . . . and you'll be laughing all the way.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (Fb3Ba)
Allegedly
That show will rot your brain and destroy your soul . . . and you'll be laughing all the way.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (Fb3Ba)
Allegedly
Posted by: Doof at October 09, 2024 12:08 PM (RIT1U)
245
Milton the Monster > Milton Friedman > Milton Bearle
> Milton the Hurricane
> Milton the Hurricane
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 12:08 PM (v0R5T)
246
One of the things we had set up was shooting big bad guns at an outdoor range. This was to happen in the Dallas area.”
That sounds fun. We should set up something like that.
That sounds fun. We should set up something like that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2024 12:08 PM (Df/yq)
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:08 PM (CIS44)
248
One of the things we had set up was shooting big bad guns at an outdoor range. This was to happen in the Dallas area.”
That sounds fun. We should set up something like that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2024 12:08 PM
I would totally attend such an event.
That sounds fun. We should set up something like that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 09, 2024 12:08 PM
I would totally attend such an event.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2024 12:09 PM (ZANHd)
249
90...New Yorkers are the most provincial people on the planet.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (Ktoks)
I think Bostonians top NYC in that regard.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (Ktoks)
I think Bostonians top NYC in that regard.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 09, 2024 12:09 PM (Rbu5d)
250
239 "I still say Milton is a faggot name for Hurricane ass kicker.
Posted by: Xipe Totec"
You can trace the rapid decline of the country to when hurricanes started being named after men. Coincidence? I think not
Posted by: Ripley
-------------------------
Agreed. Milton is a bitch.
Posted by: Xipe Totec"
You can trace the rapid decline of the country to when hurricanes started being named after men. Coincidence? I think not
Posted by: Ripley
-------------------------
Agreed. Milton is a bitch.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 12:09 PM (yU0dr)
251
I don't think it's a stretch to believe that Trump alone is responsible for Trumpism in the GOP. We can have hope that it'll continue beyond him, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to assume that the GOPe will be able to take the reins again once he's gone.
They did after Reagan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
===
BINGO! Evil never sleeps.
Evil never sleeps, but Trump has now successfully transformed the GOP, and brought in a very strong new crop of pols who aren't interested in the old ways.
They did after Reagan.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
===
BINGO! Evil never sleeps.
Evil never sleeps, but Trump has now successfully transformed the GOP, and brought in a very strong new crop of pols who aren't interested in the old ways.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:09 PM (xCA6C)
252
Gerrymandering is the most consistently bipartisan exercise in US government.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (vCRHt)
253
Your brand new son.
Posted by: wth at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (v0R5T)
254
90...New Yorkers are the most provincial people on the planet.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (Ktoks)
I think Bostonians top NYC in that regard.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 09, 2024 12:09 PM
Can confirm.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:29 AM (Ktoks)
I think Bostonians top NYC in that regard.
Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at October 09, 2024 12:09 PM
Can confirm.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (ZANHd)
255
Letterkenny will do extended punning just like the Horde except their puns are dirty..
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (FfSAJ)
256
"I still say Milton is a faggot name for Hurricane ass kicker.
Posted by: Xipe Totec"
Are you familiar with "Paradise Lost?"
Posted by: Xipe Totec"
Are you familiar with "Paradise Lost?"
Posted by: Khan!!! at October 09, 2024 12:11 PM (592Pr)
Posted by: Soothie at October 09, 2024 12:11 PM (pRhGN)
258
Seeing on X that Biden apparently told Woodward that Obama caused the invasion of Ukraine. The family business is *all* being settled, LOL.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (3cXfB)
259
I'm following this weather geek's live stream of the approaching Milton:
https://tinyurl.com/jptubbuc
https://tinyurl.com/jptubbuc
Posted by: one hour sober at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (Y1sOo)
260
Letterkenny will do extended punning just like the Horde except their puns are dirty..
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (FfSAJ)
And Thats whats I 'ppreciates bouts it.
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (FfSAJ)
And Thats whats I 'ppreciates bouts it.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (CIS44)
261
Seeing on X that Biden apparently told Woodward that Obama caused the invasion of Ukraine. The family business is *all* being settled, LOL.
Obama is a pimp. He never could've outfought Putin.
Obama is a pimp. He never could've outfought Putin.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (xCA6C)
262
Letterkenny will do extended punning just like the Horde except their puns are dirty..
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (FfSAJ)
That's a Texas sized ten-four!
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (FfSAJ)
That's a Texas sized ten-four!
Posted by: Doof at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (RIT1U)
263
Remember: Ace is of Italic heritage, this week.
So greet him with a Bon Giornio, Paisan!
Posted by: Soothie
Bon Garlic Breado Ace!
So greet him with a Bon Giornio, Paisan!
Posted by: Soothie
Bon Garlic Breado Ace!
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (IghHw)
264
Anybody with any experience with Remote Viewing?
I'm on a campout. Somewhere in my stuff, in the trailer maybe, but maybe in my Ranger pickup, is an almost full box (you know the big 'un) of Q-Tips.
I can't find them. My emergency stash in the first-aid kit was depleted and not replenished. I'm thinking maybe a rifle cleaning rod with a small wad of paper-towel may make a suitable field expedient. Situation becoming dire. Please advise
I'm on a campout. Somewhere in my stuff, in the trailer maybe, but maybe in my Ranger pickup, is an almost full box (you know the big 'un) of Q-Tips.
I can't find them. My emergency stash in the first-aid kit was depleted and not replenished. I'm thinking maybe a rifle cleaning rod with a small wad of paper-towel may make a suitable field expedient. Situation becoming dire. Please advise
Posted by: Common Tater at October 09, 2024 12:13 PM (GLjEo)
265
258 Seeing on X that Biden apparently told Woodward that Obama caused the invasion of Ukraine. The family business is *all* being settled, LOL.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (3cXfB)
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And a report of Biden and Harris staffers getting into some kind of physical altercation.
I suspect that Biden's intentional efforts to undermine Kamala (like putting on the MAGA hat, the photo op with DeSantis on the phone, the generally nice things about DeSantis) are getting under Kamala's people's skins.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (3cXfB)
=====
And a report of Biden and Harris staffers getting into some kind of physical altercation.
I suspect that Biden's intentional efforts to undermine Kamala (like putting on the MAGA hat, the photo op with DeSantis on the phone, the generally nice things about DeSantis) are getting under Kamala's people's skins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:13 PM (GBKbO)
266
All Hurricane coverage should have Scorpions "Here I am, rock me like a Hurricane" softly playing in the background.
All Hurricane coverage should have Scorpions "Here I am, rock me like a Hurricane" softly playing in the background.
Posted by: Frank Barone at October 09, 2024 12:13 PM (+oR7L)
267
167
‘ You can already see places like NY and CA working to steal the Republican seats.’
Not many of those left.
‘ You can already see places like NY and CA working to steal the Republican seats.’
Not many of those left.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 09, 2024 12:13 PM (jbnUc)
268
Letterkenny will do extended punning just like the Horde except their puns are dirty..
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (FfSAJ)
And Thats whats I 'ppreciates bouts it.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (CIS44)
As long as no attentions are paid to your buttshole
Posted by: Northernlurker , wondering where his phone is at October 09, 2024 12:10 PM (FfSAJ)
And Thats whats I 'ppreciates bouts it.
Posted by: BruceWayne at October 09, 2024 12:12 PM (CIS44)
As long as no attentions are paid to your buttshole
Posted by: Doof at October 09, 2024 12:13 PM (RIT1U)
269
Mark Halperin says it's all gone to shit for Kammie, could lose all 6 swing states.
https://l.smartnews.com/p-48Cpm/YY0bYD
https://l.smartnews.com/p-48Cpm/YY0bYD
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 09, 2024 12:13 PM (O2GXm)
270
I suspect that Biden's intentional efforts to undermine Kamala (like putting on the MAGA hat, the photo op with DeSantis on the phone, the generally nice things about DeSantis) are getting under Kamala's people's skins.
Rats in a sack thrown in the river.
Rats in a sack thrown in the river.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:13 PM (xCA6C)
271
Ace is going All-In this Columbus Day.
Ace is going All-In this Columbus Day.
Posted by: Soothie at October 09, 2024 12:14 PM (pRhGN)
272
Nah, the killer dude from Halloween!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it.
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (hmOfI)
=======
Oh, you mean Jason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
I'd take the gloves off on this one, but, uh...it's kinda my thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers at October 09, 2024 12:01 PM (GBKbO)
I don't get it.
Posted by: ... at October 09, 2024 12:02 PM (hmOfI)
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Oh, you mean Jason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
I'd take the gloves off on this one, but, uh...it's kinda my thing.
Posted by: F. Kreuger, Elm Street at October 09, 2024 12:14 PM (OUMaO)
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Can you imagine Presnit Vacuum Skull intellectually jousting with Putin? Like a toddler arguing for more candy.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 09, 2024 12:14 PM (pohLc)
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NOOD racist reporter
Posted by: Inogame at October 09, 2024 12:14 PM (53oGX)
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New: struggle session at the NYT
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:15 PM (xCA6C)
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Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
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Is an AR 24/7 bigger or smaller than an AR 15? Is it scarier? Does it have the thing that goes up?
Posted by: Settled Science at October 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Ktoks)
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Is an AR 24/7 bigger or smaller than an AR 15? Is it scarier? Does it have the thing that goes up?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 09, 2024 12:15 PM (7fElN)
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>>>BINGO! Evil never sleeps.
Evil never sleeps, but Trump has now successfully transformed the GOP, and brought in a very strong new crop of pols who aren't interested in the old ways.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Trump's got coattails but transformation is in its infancy.
Paraphrasing Reagan, GOPe is but one election away.
Evil never sleeps, but Trump has now successfully transformed the GOP, and brought in a very strong new crop of pols who aren't interested in the old ways.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Trump's got coattails but transformation is in its infancy.
Paraphrasing Reagan, GOPe is but one election away.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 12:15 PM (yU0dr)
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Anybody with any experience with Remote Viewing?
I'm on a campout. Somewhere in my stuff, in the trailer maybe, but maybe in my Ranger pickup, is an almost full box (you know the big 'un) of Q-Tips.
I can't find them. My emergency stash in the first-aid kit was depleted and not replenished. I'm thinking maybe a rifle cleaning rod with a small wad of paper-towel may make a suitable field expedient. Situation becoming dire. Please advise
Posted by: Common Tater
Hang on, let me check my magic 8-ball...(shakes vigorously)...yeah, magic 8-ball sez you're fucked.
I'm on a campout. Somewhere in my stuff, in the trailer maybe, but maybe in my Ranger pickup, is an almost full box (you know the big 'un) of Q-Tips.
I can't find them. My emergency stash in the first-aid kit was depleted and not replenished. I'm thinking maybe a rifle cleaning rod with a small wad of paper-towel may make a suitable field expedient. Situation becoming dire. Please advise
Posted by: Common Tater
Hang on, let me check my magic 8-ball...(shakes vigorously)...yeah, magic 8-ball sez you're fucked.
Posted by: Brother Tim, Keeper of the Tim Continuum at October 09, 2024 12:15 PM (OUMaO)
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Oh, you mean Jason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
I'd take the gloves off on this one, but, uh...it's kinda my thing.
Posted by: F. Kreuger, Elm Street at October 09, 2024 12:14 PM
Myer, Jason & Freddy are all pussies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, terrorizing teenagers with Michael Myers
I'd take the gloves off on this one, but, uh...it's kinda my thing.
Posted by: F. Kreuger, Elm Street at October 09, 2024 12:14 PM
Myer, Jason & Freddy are all pussies.
Posted by: Pennywise the Clown at October 09, 2024 12:16 PM (+oR7L)
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276 Guns is a big one. Most foreigners truly believe every American is packing an AR 24/7.
Posted by: Settled Science
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Truth be told, some only have pistols.
Posted by: Settled Science
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Truth be told, some only have pistols.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 09, 2024 12:16 PM (yU0dr)
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And a report of Biden and Harris staffers getting into some kind of physical altercation.
I suspect that Biden's intentional efforts to undermine Kamala (like putting on the MAGA hat, the photo op with DeSantis on the phone, the generally nice things about DeSantis) are getting under Kamala's people's skins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Biden coming out and saying he wasn't getting involved in the longshoremens' strike. That was a double FU to Kumswallo for kicking him out without even a vote.
I suspect that Biden's intentional efforts to undermine Kamala (like putting on the MAGA hat, the photo op with DeSantis on the phone, the generally nice things about DeSantis) are getting under Kamala's people's skins.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Biden coming out and saying he wasn't getting involved in the longshoremens' strike. That was a double FU to Kumswallo for kicking him out without even a vote.
Posted by: rickb223 Gold & Silver Spot Prices at October 09, 2024 12:16 PM (IghHw)
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As a candidate, at least clinton's ugly sounded like she knew what she was talking about.
I'd say they're both equally unliked, kalama and hitlery.
But hitlery didnt sound like a shit-for-brains every time she spoke.
As a candidate, at least clinton's ugly sounded like she knew what she was talking about.
I'd say they're both equally unliked, kalama and hitlery.
But hitlery didnt sound like a shit-for-brains every time she spoke.
Posted by: Soothie at October 09, 2024 12:16 PM (pRhGN)
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The Indiana Weeper and the Wyoming Bison Turd are done. It is the nests of Bushites who need to be driven from the GOP, and soon
The Indiana Weeper and the Wyoming Bison Turd are done. It is the nests of Bushites who need to be driven from the GOP, and soon
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 12:18 PM (1CG4q)
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Trump's got coattails but transformation is in its infancy.
Paraphrasing Reagan, GOPe is but one election away.
No, I'm not talking about coattails - that's a single election phenomenon. There have been much bigger changes in the last 12 years - just ask President Haley.
Paraphrasing Reagan, GOPe is but one election away.
No, I'm not talking about coattails - that's a single election phenomenon. There have been much bigger changes in the last 12 years - just ask President Haley.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:18 PM (xCA6C)
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Desantis ran this year. He is dead to me at the national level. Also all the RGA donations for a lock Gov are GOPe as it gets.
Posted by: Tech Sgt. Chen at October 09, 2024 12:18 PM (Z8Yh2)
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Whig, part of the revolt had to do with the burden put on the states to redeem the Continentals at face value after they had been sold to speculators at discount values, which was seen as a shifting of the obligations to repay from the richest (who were agitating for full face value redemption) to the farmers and "western folk" who generally didn't have any cash due to the collapse of the Continental Dollar
Dismissing the rebellion as an over reaction is a bit much, the participants saw it as a revolt against the reforming of the very system that they had been beggard by in the first place.
Dismissing the rebellion as an over reaction is a bit much, the participants saw it as a revolt against the reforming of the very system that they had been beggard by in the first place.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 12:19 PM (D7oie)
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Is an AR 24/7 bigger or smaller than an AR 15? Is it scarier? Does it have the thing that goes up?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
No provision for a chain saw bayonet, no sale.
Is an AR 24/7 bigger or smaller than an AR 15? Is it scarier? Does it have the thing that goes up?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
No provision for a chain saw bayonet, no sale.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 12:21 PM (1CG4q)
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And a report of Biden and Harris staffers getting into some kind of physical altercation.
Recess schoolyard fights are "Champ" Biden's specialty!
And a report of Biden and Harris staffers getting into some kind of physical altercation.
Recess schoolyard fights are "Champ" Biden's specialty!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 09, 2024 12:25 PM (1CG4q)
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As it turns out, Hamilton was correct. Tariffs and a central bank were very helpful to our then-new economy. As to corruption, Hamilton was utterly incorrupt. In fact, he passed on many opportunities for corrupt self-dealing because he saw it as his mission to get the US economy off the ground, and he wanted to avoid giving anyone an excuse to obstruct his agenda. He was a paragon - certainly far more than Jefferson.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
Hamilton was scotched by the Virginia Dynasty from Jefferson to Monroe, and the lapsing of the First Bank
The American system is what we have today, Henry clay's vision made flesh by Wilson and both Roosevelts. It has become a cabal of rich elites running an economy for their own enrichment and power, and stomping on anyone who dares get out of line. This is also what happened in France during the First Republic and the Bourbon restoration.
The corruption is off the charts because of the power it gives to centralize power.
If you are happy with that, then you must be delighted at the power Blackrock holds over your life and your new neighbors shipped in to compete with your kids for slave wages.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 09, 2024 12:07 PM (xCA6C)
Hamilton was scotched by the Virginia Dynasty from Jefferson to Monroe, and the lapsing of the First Bank
The American system is what we have today, Henry clay's vision made flesh by Wilson and both Roosevelts. It has become a cabal of rich elites running an economy for their own enrichment and power, and stomping on anyone who dares get out of line. This is also what happened in France during the First Republic and the Bourbon restoration.
The corruption is off the charts because of the power it gives to centralize power.
If you are happy with that, then you must be delighted at the power Blackrock holds over your life and your new neighbors shipped in to compete with your kids for slave wages.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 12:32 PM (D7oie)
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Hamilton was an elite who sought to create a new aristocracy for the United States, aping all the ills of the British. He only threw in with the revolution when he realized he would lose everything by continuing to support the British interests.
Don't like the man, don't trust his words, and feel he was only looking to make himself the peerage.
If you want to look at failed successful revolutions, look to Simon Bolivar's which was quite Hamiltonian in outlook.
we were spared that for a while.
Don't like the man, don't trust his words, and feel he was only looking to make himself the peerage.
If you want to look at failed successful revolutions, look to Simon Bolivar's which was quite Hamiltonian in outlook.
we were spared that for a while.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 09, 2024 12:34 PM (D7oie)
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